NationStates Jolt Archive

Waldenburg, Delesa and Warta Endor... I am awaiting your responses on my proposed Trade Agreements.

Waldenburg, Delesa and Warta Endor... I am awaiting your responses on my proposed Trade Agreements.

I did in fact respond (Two posts ago) It was a little vague, and In the middle of a paragraph, so I can see where you missed it.

I did in fact respond (Two posts ago) It was a little vague, and In the middle of a paragraph, so I can see where you missed it.

Ah, quite right you are... I have not been reading carefully.


In that cast:
Anglo-Persian Trade Agreement created (3 Years)

come to my storefront. It's bad i no. But im new:)

come to my storefront. It's bad i no. But im new:)

It isn't cool to advertise in other people's threads.

:( :mp5: o crap sry

:mad: :upyours: DIEEE!!!!!

So anyway, DMG, this brings you up to 6 Trade routes and Persia plus another one...

Van Atta!!!! Look

here my Empire Factbook so far http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11462029#post11462029

:mad: :upyours: DIEEE!!!!!

So anyway, DMG, this brings you up to 6 Trade routes and Persia plus another one...

Aye... 7 in total.

I am just waiting on Russia and Italy.

DMG do we have a trade? if so i get 5

DMG do we have a trade? if so i get 5

Yes, we have a trade agreement. How do you get 5?

4 alliance 1 trade right?

4 alliance 1 trade right?

Oh, I thought you meant 5 credits.

You have 4 alliances?

HOW much extra credits do i have???? im confused

HOW much extra credits do i have???? im confused

I am not sure why you are confused.

If you have 4 alliances and 1 trading partner then you will receive 10 bonus credits next turn.

However, who are your four alliances with?

nonono. On my Ottoman thing i says 4(Islam) I think that means the Islamic Alliance

nonono. On my Ottoman thing i says 4(Islam) I think that means the Islamic Alliance

That means 4 credits, because you have 2 alliances.

2 Alliances + 1 Trade Agreement = 6 bonus credits.

ooo so i get 6?

:rolleyes: Yessir.

what time is it?

what kind of question is that? Are you talking about time in the game? It is August starting august 2nd.

Beautiful Job TTM on the post. :D
I love how you incorporated Svensk into the post, absolutely awesome. :p

what time is it?

August 2nd = August
August 3rd = September
August 4th = October
August 5th = November
August 6th = December
August 7th = January of 1801

Hey Sweden, when you get a chance, Austria-Hungary sent you an invitation. Take your time, no hurry. It's a couple posts back. Oh, and do we have an Italy? Because I haven't seen one Italian post in a while, and they're kind of important.

The summit will take place on August 6th, thats sunday. It will be at 8 pm Greenwich time, for all the USians and Canadians and those in different time zones...I'm sure you can figure it out. In Michigan, it is -5 hrs difference. Good luck to you all.

there will be a +1 Credit bonus added if you participate

The summit will take place on August 6th, thats sunday. It will be at 8 pm Greenwich time, for all the USians and Canadians and those in different time zones...I'm sure you can figure it out. In Michigan, it is -5 hrs difference. Good luck to you all.

there will be a +1 Credit bonus added if you participate

Damn it! I am going to be out of town sunday afternoon.

We can change it to Monday if everyone is okay with it.

We can change it to Monday if everyone is okay with it.

Works for me...

Cool. Monday at 8 Greenwich time. You have to have MSN or HTML to join in, of course. Remember, it is IC, and everything that is said is said as if you were the representative of your country, be it King, Queen, or lesser nobility.

Is it time to replace the Italians?

(Sorry for not posting/responding in awhile...)

Yeah, we have heard nothing of Italy. Hasn't been a single IC post.

Yeah, we have heard nothing of Italy. Hasn't been a single IC post.

Or OOC post for that matter (except his signup).

Mmkay...I think we need a new italy. EVERYONE who is reading this post now, try to find a suitable replacement...we need the country shaped like a boot.:D

ill be ITALY :D im not...um Maldorians....im Maldorans!!!

What happened to the geezer who was to play Russia? Was he not supposed to take up the first available position?

What happened to the geezer who was to play Russia? Was he not supposed to take up the first available position?

The one that got kicked out because of inactivity and then Dumii took his spot?

Sorry, for my lack of activity and I do understand why you decided to give my old nation in this rp to another person who is of worth. Also, to say I bear no malice towards any of you because of this and I hope that this rp will continue to evolve and I will keep an interesting eye towards this thread as it progress further. So good luck and happy rping.

What happened to the geezer who was to play Russia? Was he not supposed to take up the first available position?

Yeah, Dumii took his place, but now he doesn't want to RP for some stupid ass reason. GAH! this is dumb.

Oh, and NP Scandivans. Don't be so hard on yourself! :D Oh, if you are going to be active, you can take Italy if you want it. :)

Would it be possible for me to try my hand in this? I admit that I have very little RP experience, but if I suck beyond all reason you can always RP my assassination.:sniper: If you would like to reserve positions for more experienced players, I absolutly understand, no hard feelings.

Meh, no problem. Just do your best and we'll see what happens. :D

KK, you are italy, and for your information, we are having a summit tommorrow at 8 pm Greenwich time on msn. My Yahoo is lukedeutsch@yahoo.com so add me to your msn, if you have it, and we'll chat it up. :D

Good luck and jump in anytime. Oh, and try to get a fact book up.

Meh, no problem. Just do your best and we'll see what happens. :D

KK, you are italy, and for your information, we are having a summit tommorrow at 8 pm Greenwich time on msn. My Yahoo is lukedeutsch@yahoo.com so add me to your msn, if you have it, and we'll chat it up. :D

Good luck and jump in anytime. Oh, and try to get a fact book up.

Shit... it turns out that I could've made today's, but I probably can't make tomorrow's (though there was no way of me knowing until today when I became ill).

Shit... it turns out that I could've made today's, but I probably can't make tomorrow's (though there was no way of me knowing until today when I became ill).

Scratch that... change of plans, I can make it.

Welcome to Jan. 1801! :cool:

@Lothrain: Hey, I know you weren't around at the time, but Prime Minister William Pitt of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland sent you a trade offer. Thanks.

what?

what?

Why are you posting here.

what?

Yeah...why ARE you posting here?

Cruxium, Myself, DMG, and TTM all showed up for the summit so they all get 1 extra credit to their yield. :D

Once again Lothrain, it appears you have missed that I (UK) have offered you a trade.

@Lothrain: Ignore my comment about the trade rights IF you agree to the alliance with France.

Yes, the alliance between France, England, and Italy is on the table.

And also, should I win by default because Dumii hasn't posted something about the battle? Its been a little while, no offense meant Dumii, and my and England's agenda are on the line with Spains' lack of progress. Srry

The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland has officially declared war on Spain. Four Armies led by the Duke of Wellington are sailing with a mighty fleet of 60 Royal British Ships to Galacia. Have a nice day.

Once again Lothrain, it appears you have missed that I (UK) have offered you a trade.

Please have some patients DMG. I’m playing catch-up here. I will whip something up soon.:D

Also, Factbook coming soon.:headbang:

Please have some patients DMG. I’m playing catch-up here. I will whip something up soon.:D

Also, Factbook coming soon.:headbang:

You managed to respond to a post that was just made and not something I did over a week ago...

Either way, it doesn't matter, all you have to do is respond to the alliance agreement with France (and by connection, Britain). If you say no, then you have to reply to my trade agreement.

Please have some patients DMG. I’m playing catch-up here. I will whip something up soon.:D

Also, Factbook coming soon.:headbang:

Don't worry bout it Lothrain. :D I know how it can get...:headbang: Especially managing this whole spiel. Oh, and you can RP with our diplomats when we send you offers.

Edited the Attacking a Territory Section on the rules.

# of battles fought are decided on the worth of the province. anything at or above 4 is two battles, Capitals are best out of three battles. Anything below 4 is one battle.

Edited the Attacking a Territory Section on the rules.

# of battles fought are decided on the worth of the province. anything at or above 4 is two battles, Capitals are best out of three battles. Anything below 4 is one battle.

Woohoo. Sounds good.

Except I guess if an army gets to a battle and then retreats before anything serious happens (as their tactics, not just out of fear). I guess it is sort of up to the people RPing if the battle counts or not.


btw, Dumii responded :p


edit: I will vote later when I have time to read both posts war posts.

I'm going to vote for Spain, both posts were good but France claimed it shot off 100,000+ shells at the battle which is a bit unreasonable, as it is more shots fired than the battle of Trafalgar, Copenhagen, and St.Vincient rolled into one. France had a good post but logistically that many shells is impractical.

Spain: 1
France: 0

What Are Votes??

FOr our war posts.

What Are Votes??

...
...
...

Did you bother reading the rules?

[Vote coming soon]

While both stories were interesting to read, I found the cliff thing a bit hard to swallow and the Baron would more than likely have suffered a broken neck when the trap door fell. I also felt more in touch with the French characters. As such I'm going to give my vote to France.

Nice story both.

My vote goes to France, though I say it was a good job by both sides.

@VA: We need to talk via MSN.

Spain: 1
France: 2

As creative as your war post was, Dumii, with all the twists and such, I've still got to give my vote to France. Their attack seemed more realistic.

Like Waldenburg 2 the amount of shots was..unrealistic, unless, you really planned to bring hell down on one unimportant battle of this possible short war. Although the tactics were nice on your side france, i like the trenches idea. But in the end, did france just surrender the town? or the province?

If he surrendered the town my vote goes to France, but just barely.

If he surrendered the province my vote goes to Italy.

France was a good read, and Italy too, but i think Italy could use a little more, like a fighting retreat or something.

and who has MSN or AIM??

Do you want to just have this poll as a first to six-eight votes, Dumii? It'd be a bit faster, I'm sure.

Spain: 1
France: 4

My vote goes to france, i didt read the end,and that seemed...weird and unlikely.

As creative as your war post was, Dumii, with all the twists and such, I've still got to give my vote to France. Their attack seemed more realistic.

Is Apocalyptica in this RP? If he is, he hasn't been given a nation, according to the first page of this thread.

I thought it was only people who were participating in the RP who could vote. :confused:

Delesa']and who has MSN or AIM??

Mine is linked right below my name on the left.

<---

Do you want to just have this poll as a first to six-eight votes, Dumii? It'd be a bit faster, I'm sure.

Spain: 1
France: 4

Just make it first to five, as you two do note vote meaning there are 9 people. Once you get the necessary five to have a majority, the rest of the voting is just for kicks.

Is Apocalyptica in this RP? If he is, he hasn't been given a nation, according to the first page of this thread.

I thought it was only people who were participating in the RP who could vote. :confused:

He might just be a puppet of somebody.

Is Apocalyptica in this RP? If he is, he hasn't been given a nation, according to the first page of this thread.

I thought it was only people who were participating in the RP who could vote. :confused:

Yeah, my bad. Stupid puppets, that was indeed me who voted. Oh, and I have msn, Sweden. cubs_wood34@hotmail.com

Delesa, regarding your most recent IC post. You have already been invited to Prussia for an Eastern European summit to discuss current goings on and so forth. Also, as you're now also allied with Russia, you're already in trade with them.

i'm voting for france

Hey VA, we still need to talk (sorry about missing you the other night).

Also, you gave me the wrong number of credits on the first page.

@Delesa: Sorry if I missed this or just forgot about it, but did you ever post a response to my trade agreement?

@Delesa: Sorry if I missed this or just forgot about it, but did you ever post a response to my trade agreement?

no i dont think i did, i didnt see it, what post #?

aslo update on my factbook, includes armies, locations and commanding officers

Delesa']no i dont think i did, i didnt see it, what post #?

aslo update on my factbook, includes armies, locations and commanding officers

Very early one.

I just had a minister saying that a messenger would be sent out to X, X, and X with a trade agreement. Then I said that you could just have your leader receive the note and reply.

kk let me check, yeah haha i sent you one early on too

Delesa']kk let me check, yeah haha i sent you one early on too

lol... woops.

This is probably a stupid question, but has the Dumii give up on spain?

This is probably a stupid question, but has the Dumii give up on spain?

Literally, no. He is still RPing them.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=495893

lol, it is July of 1801 and I am still RPing in January of 1801 (well, technically I just entered February).

Hey, can you link this to the front page somewhere. Thanks.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=494011

@Lothrain: VanAtta and I need to know if you have MSN or AIM so we can talk. It is important. Please post your MSN or AIM name here or contact us on MSN/AIM.

DMG
MSN: robbie12321(at)yahoo.com
AIM: robbie12321

VanAtta
MSN: lukedeutsch(at)yahoo.com

change the (at) to an @ sign.

I have yahoo messenger.

I have yahoo messenger.

Hmm... I am going to work right now, but if VA comes on, he can try to figure something out.

Worst comes to worst we can just have a TG conversation.

I have yahoo messenger.

Are you using a Windows operating system?

If so, please find Microsoft Messenger on it and log on.

Are you using a Windows operating system?

If so, please find Microsoft Messenger on it and log on.

even if he has a mac he can get msn like me

Delesa']even if he has a mac he can get msn like me

(Yeh, I know, but that would involve an extra step that I am not sure he wants to do.)

But anyway... if you have a Mac or Linux or something, go to MSN.com and download it.

yeah yeah i forgot opps, and italy can you add me as well once you get msn, soccerfreak_25@hotmail.com

Delesa']yeah yeah i forgot opps, and italy can you add me as well once you get msn, soccerfreak_25@hotmail.com

Not that you would need to talk to the Baltic States... *shakes fist menacingly*

haha, ive been talking to VA...and soon i will talk with you and italy.

*makes face*

Delesa']haha, ive been talking to VA...and soon i will talk with you and italy.

*makes face*

So I've heard...

Hey VA, when you get a chance, update the factbook links. Thanks

Persia: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=494210
Ottomans: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=494096
Tauregs: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=493951
French: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=493819
Spanish: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=493838

@Dumii: Sorry to push you, but can I get a response or tell what your soldiers in Santiago are doing. The thing is that the battle is taking place in the beginning of January, but the rest of the RP is in September... soon enough it is going to be the next year and this battle won't be finished. I sort of what my soldiers to do something else this year, but that won't work if this pace continues. Thanks.

there...updated the links and made a couple edits.

there...updated the links and made a couple edits.

You forgot to add my trade agreement with Baltic... :(

GAH! :headbang:

*pulls all of my hair out*

GAH! :headbang:

*pulls all of my hair out*

Me thinks you will be bald by the end of this RP. :p


btw, I think we need to do something about not responding to a battle. It kind of isn't fair. If you initiate a battle on the first day of the year (January) and then the other person doesn't respond for four days it is already May of that year but you are still in the first day of your battle... eventually it will carry over to the next year which presents some conflicts.

Me thinks you will be bald by the end of this RP. :p


btw, I think we need to do something about not responding to a battle. It kind of isn't fair. If you initiate a battle on the first day of the year (January) and then the other person doesn't respond for four days it is already May of that year but you are still in the first day of your battle... eventually it will carry over to the next year which presents some conflicts.

Seriously! I'd appreciate a response to my attack, which wasn't that great a plan or that well written, but it still deserves a response.

If spain doesn't post a reply soon I think we should just assume they loose. I mean if I wasn't on when someone invaded my capitol and I didn't respond for a day that would be one thing, but if I didn't respond for a week?

OOC It's probably hard to write against 3 long winded battles at once, but yes perhaps we shoud try to find a new Spain (Or just another to help with these battles if Dummi's just finding it hard to cope.) Or just have Spain divided up amongst us.

OOC It's probably hard to write against 3 long winded battles at once, but yes perhaps we shoud try to find a new Spain (Or just another to help with these battles if Dummi's just finding it hard to cope.) Or just have Spain divided up amongst us.

I agree that it might be hard to keep up with three battles at once... however, he has posted once in the last week and it was hardly a post at that; it was a short, barely related post.

I'm afraid if this keeps up, we may have to resort to the latter option.

yeah

I'd like to just divy up spain, but it doesn't seem fair. All though it is bound to happen with everyone attacking him.

Well If everyone wants I fight I could fill in for Spain, in the two battle not involving me, I have tomorow free, and no social life except standing on the lawn pretending to be a sprinkler (Bless you NS) I could fill in for him.

Well If everyone wants I fight I could fill in for Spain, in the two battle not involving me, I have tomorow free, and no social life except standing on the lawn pretending to be a sprinkler (Bless you NS) I could fill in for him.

I'll leave that decision up to VA as an executive order.

However, if we do end up divvying it up, know that in all likelihood Morocco will go to the Muslims while the peninsula itself would go to the UK and France.

yeah yeah I know.

Go ahead Waldenburg. I know you'll be fair. You're up to snuff w/dmg and I know Dumii is dreadfully busy.

I know you'll be fair. You're up to snuff w/dmg

Some of the kindess if most false things every said. :p I'll start tommorow then.

Some of the kindess if most false things every said. :p I'll start tommorow then.

Cool.

Though who is going to RP against your forces in Morocco?

Look, how about I say that Spanish Morocco goes to the Muslims and King Fernando dies? That means I can have Ximena as Queen of Spain (which is what I want) and Aiti can have Spanish Morrocco. I don't have the energy to fight both Aiti and Waldenburg, so they might as well take it. I'll try to post a reply to DMG's one.

Sounds good to me, as it's your country, although I would.ve liked to Rp as a european country for awhile.

I guess that just makes it simpler. I mean, then we all get what we want.

Sorry about that though.

I guess that just makes it simpler. I mean, then we all get what we want.

:( DMG wants free land :P

DMG should have jumped on the horse first, as Aiti did. lol

DMG should have jumped on the horse first, as Aiti did. lol

DMG was plotting the downfall of Spain...

Downfall of Spain occurring in: 1:52:34

DMG was plotting the downfall of Spain...

Downfall of Spain occurring in: 1:52:34

:p Perhaps...if I can get myself motivated. I can't imagine what it must be like for spain right now, under attack from 3 different angles from 4 different armies...Dumii, we are sorry for ravaging you! ;) :D

:p Perhaps...if I can get myself motivated. I can't imagine what it must be like for spain right now, under attack from 3 different angles from 4 different armies...Dumii, we are sorry for ravaging you! ;) :D

Eh... I'm a little unsympathetic... he also controls the military stronghold known as the frigid, god forsaken lands of Russia. :p

Yay yay yay! We're so putting the head of the late king of spain on a pike!

To Sweden, Baltic States, and Russia

I've offered trade.

Yay yay yay! We're so putting the head of the late king of spain on a pike!

No, he will be given a state funeral in Madrid, barbarian!:mad:

OOc I'd just like to say I'm going on a small vacation from now till Sunday, so don't expect anything from Persia for awhile.

what happened while I was gone?

*Looks at calendar*

*Notices it says November*

*Looks at current battle awaiting its first post in January*

...

OMG lol

No, he will be given a state funeral in Madrid, barbarian!:mad:

suuure :sniper:

suuure :sniper:

I will burn Madrid to the ground...!

*twiddles fingers* heh heh...

So, Spanish Morrocco is now Tuareg Territory. What do you want to call it now? You don't want to call it Spanish Morocco...I know that.

*twiddles fingers* heh heh...

So, Spanish Morrocco is now Tuareg Territory. What do you want to call it now? You don't want to call it Spanish Morocco...I know that.

How about... *dun* *dun* *dunnnnn* Morocco!

Alright, I am sorry guys, but I just can't wait five days for a response to a battle post. It just isn't fair to me. And thus I am claiming the territory of Galacia along with all of its citizens and am taking the half army in Santiago prisoners of war.

VanAtta you gonna update the map?

VanAtta you gonna update the map?

Might as well just do it at the beginning of the next year.

I'm renaming SM after my monarchs son, Khamzata. SM is now to be refered to as Khamzata.

@VA: We need to talk again... I'll be on this afternoon.

VanAtta you gonna update the map?

Yeah, if you start RPing. :rolleyes:

Oh, and Aiti, you don't have enough money to buy 3 forts, so I made sure you only bought 1. (You would be 7.5 credits in the hole...) Unless you want the forts and me to get rid of some armies? Aiti, this is the only warning you shall recieve. Sorry to be harsh but I need to uphold the rules. :(

and the map will be complete by tomorrow, all. ;)

Delesa']OOC:what bloody year is it???

It's 1802 as of today.



@VA: I send you an MSN message detailing my purchases and what my treasury and upkeep should be listed as.

It's 1802 as of today.

thx

I have begun my attack on Castile by sending my armies at Madrid. Dumii, it isn't obvious where all of your people are... but then you haven't posted much as Spain anyway.

Yeah, if you start RPing. :rolleyes:

Oh, and Aiti, you don't have enough money to buy 3 forts, so I made sure you only bought 1. (You would be 7.5 credits in the hole...) Unless you want the forts and me to get rid of some armies? Aiti, this is the only warning you shall recieve. Sorry to be harsh but I need to uphold the rules. :(

and the map will be complete by tomorrow, all. ;)

I belive I had enough, but I'll be more careful. Math has always been my weakest subject.

Delesa']But the sole nation of the Baltic States shall not fire a shot at the countries of France, England, and Italy for 8 years. Now you may depart from here. I have already informed your ship's Captain, that you shall be departing tomarrow. Pleasebe hast in the return of my offer."

Not a big deal, but it is referred to as the United Kingdom (UK) or Great Britain, though the latter would technically still be incorrect as the official name is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland.

OOC ok I'm back and have offered Aiti and Dumii a proposition in the IC thread.

OOC ok I'm back...

*blinks*

Psst... this is the OOC thread

:rolleyes: Do you just wait for these sort of things to happen?

:rolleyes: Do you just wait for these sort of things to happen?

Oh yes! I am just sitting at my computer waiting for you to write the redundant OOC in your post so that I may POUNCE on you.

:rolleyes:

As I thought...

so the spanish surrendered? that means the war is over?

I mean the war between France, UK, ect vs. Spain, not the RP.

Delesa']so the spanish surrendered? that means the war is over?

When did Spain surrender?

No. Spain surrendered the territory of Galacia and the army that was stationed in its capital, Santiago de Compostela.

Now I await their response to my armies in Madrid, but if I don't get a response, Castile might surrender as well.

Sorry guys, updates are going to be really slow for a little while, I've got some packing to do and I have a big test to study for!! Forgive me if things are a little lazy on my part. It would be really nice if you guys could post up your financial information at the end of every IC post like DMG did, basically, I would like you all to set it up in this format to make it easier...

ooc: Total Cost of Purchase- X, Total Troops/Cavalry/Artillery Purchased- X/X/X, Upgrades Purchased- X, CURRENT FINANCIAL STANDINGS- X credits w/ X credits Support costs.

If you guys could remotely follow suit that would bring a HUGE weight off of my shoulders. Thanks, and sorry.

@Dumii: Thanks for updating your factbook - it helps a lot. Though, would you mind saying where in Castile your armies are as I am currently beginning my siege of Madrid.

what month is it? february?

Today is Feb. yes.

thought so.

Sorry guys, updates are going to be really slow for a little while, I've got some packing to do and I have a big test to study for!! Forgive me if things are a little lazy on my part. It would be really nice if you guys could post up your financial information at the end of every IC post like DMG did, basically, I would like you all to set it up in this format to make it easier...

ooc: Total Cost of Purchase- X, Total Troops/Cavalry/Artillery Purchased- X/X/X, Upgrades Purchased- X, CURRENT FINANCIAL STANDINGS- X credits w/ X credits Support costs.

If you guys could remotely follow suit that would bring a HUGE weight off of my shoulders. Thanks, and sorry.

np, im sure every one can do that

Today is Feb. yes.

Umm... I believe it is March. Saturday was the first of the year (January) and it is now Monday...

Saturday = January
Sunday = February
Monday = March

Umm... I believe it is March. Saturday was the first of the year (January) and it is now Monday...

Saturday = January
Sunday = February
Monday = March

ugh, fine. can we assume that in my ic post I said march or does everyone want me to edit it?

ugh, fine. can we assume that in my ic post I said march or does everyone want me to edit it?

Doesn't matter to me, but I don't think editing it for clarity would take much effort.

Doesn't matter to me, but I don't think editing it for clarity would take much effort.

I guess I should.

Dude, non of Dumii's posts have been responses to battles in a long time. I'm hoping he'll respond soon. Then again it would be nice if he didn't, but not really that fun.

I guess I should.

Dude, non of Dumii's posts have been responses to battles in a long time. I'm hoping he'll respond soon. Then again it would be nice if he didn't, but not really that fun.

Well, if he doesn't respond to mine I will be just taking Castile.

Well, if he doesn't respond to mine I will be just taking Castile.

I don't think you will.

I don't think you will.

If you don't make a direct/related reply I will...

I don't think you will.

persia and i will do the same unless you make a direct/related post to our attacks.

How about I say that that's godthingying, and that I really don't feel like being invaded by four people all at once! (Five people if you include Maldorians). It's unrealistic, and unfair! I've tried not to mind it too much, tried not to feel a little bit begrudging, but with you bitching about replies to battles and such, I really don't give a :upyours: what you say at the moment.

Sorry. Nothing against any of you, but it's difficult to keep up, what with homework, limited web access and a computer who refuses to switch between webpages in under five minutes.
I'm not asking you to withdraw or anything, or completely not attack me. I just wish you'd space your attacks out a bit, so that I have time to organise myself. So far I've got, what, two/three battles to answer to, with more coming from Britain.

That's all I wanted to say. Sorry if I offended anyone.

It certainly isn't godthingying (godmodding) as if you do not respond in an appropriate amount of time, you are considered to forfeit. We can't wait for a week to get a reply when each year is only twelve days... it isn't fair to us.

It isn't your choice whether or not you get invaded or by how many people nor is it unrealistic or unfair. It is called RPing and that is what happens.

If you can't keep up, it is your decision whether or not to stay in the RP... we aren't going to change our IC strategies to fit your schedule.

It is one thing to only be able to respond to one battle at a time, but as far as I have seen the only battle you have responded to at all is the early battle in Aragon against the French. Since then I am not aware of you posting at all in reference to our battles. I gave you the benefit of waiting five or six days before declaring your surrender and frankly if you can't respond to a battle in an entire week, I am not sure how you are going to RP at all. I was planning on having the entire battle last two or three days so that I would be able to invade Castile before the next year started... but since you didn't respond, I couldn't do that and it hurt me as a result. So again, it is unfair to us if you do not reply.

I'm sorry if you feel this is unfair to you, but you seem to be pretty much alone on this.

hey! you're online! yay!

It certainly isn't godthingying (godmodding) as if you do not respond in an appropriate amount of time, you are considered to forfeit. We can't wait for a week to get a reply when each year is only twelve days... it isn't fair to us.

It isn't your choice whether or not you get invaded or by how many people nor is it unrealistic or unfair. It is called RPing and that is what happens.

If you can't keep up, it is your decision whether or not to stay in the RP... we aren't going to change our IC strategies to fit your schedule.

It is one thing to only be able to respond to one battle at a time, but as far as I have seen the only battle you have responded to at all is the early battle in Aragon against the French. Since then I am not aware of you posting at all in reference to our battles. I gave you the benefit of waiting five or six days before declaring your surrender and frankly if you can't respond to a battle in an entire week, I am not sure how you are going to RP at all. I was planning on having the entire battle last two or three days so that I would be able to invade Castile before the next year started... but since you didn't respond, I couldn't do that and it hurt me as a result. So again, it is unfair to us if you do not reply.

I'm sorry if you feel this is unfair to you, but you seem to be pretty much alone on this.

I didn't expect much else.

now that dumii has posted a response, everyone should vote.

now that dumii has posted a response, everyone should vote.

It isn't quite clear what the hell just happened. It seems like you each fought individual battles in which you decided what both sides did and the outcome. Was this planned in advance or did you just decide to dictate what your enemy did?

It isn't quite clear what the hell just happened. It seems like you each fought individual battles in which you decided what both sides did and the outcome. Was this planned in advance or did you just decide to dictate what your enemy did?

no, it was not planned, and i think neither of us was willing to take the time to work something out. I guess everyone should vote based on likely hood. Although in dumii's post he makes a reference to my cavalry, and one may notice that I said I didn't bring any.

Either way, RPing (especially) a war clearly mandates that each side decides what their own forces do and what losses they suffer. And so, as the instigator of this, I vote in favor of the defender, Spain.

Spain: 1
Tuaregs: 0

It isn't quite clear what the hell just happened. It seems like you each fought individual battles in which you decided what both sides did and the outcome. Was this planned in advance or did you just decide to dictate what your enemy did?

I thought each side had their own version of events which we then voted on. To that extent I have stopped voting for any Rping talent and have decided to base all my voting on tactical genius and probability.

As for voting, a fire fight between Spanish Infantry (who was one of the first established armies to use rifles in skirmishing) and the Tauregs it is apparent who would win to me at least. Strangely enough that happened in the Taureg events, and in the Spanish line Both sides ended up melee fighting which I believe is the mode of combat most perfered by the african populace. I abstain from voting on the lines of both arguments favouring the others strong points.

however if it comes down to a tie I would vote for the Tauregs, as the Spanish mentioned little to no use of their artillery. I perfer not to vote but if needs be....

I may be wrong, but usually battles are fought by one person posting what their forces did and then the other side posts what their forces did. With each person posting their own losses.

And also, voting is based on everything... RPing talent/writing is involved.

I may be wrong, but usually battles are fought by one person posting what their forces did and then the other side posts what their forces did. With each person posting their own losses.

And also, voting is based on everything... RPing talent/writing is involved.

If you read through the (first battle Bilbao) there are two completely different rp versions one of course where the baron hanged himself and then took back the city, and it's opposite where the city is held by the French. As reading through them there was a certain amount of Rp on the other sides... It is usual, but in this case I believe that the battles are completely played out by both armies.

As for voting, it is just that and again I believe tactical abillity
out wieghs description in this case. Although in the cass where I can't make up my mind (Most of the time) it could factor in.

I will leave this up to VA.

no, it was not planned, and i think neither of us was willing to take the time to work something out. I guess everyone should vote based on likely hood. Although in dumii's post he makes a reference to my cavalry, and one may notice that I said I didn't bring any.

I would have done, if I knew if you had msn or something of that kind, because VanAtta and I did quite a lot of precursory fact-finding about Bilbao together before either of us posted.

Dumii is right about that. We agreed to the battleground, the positions of our troops we had posted in our deployment stage, and then we fought out our own versions of the battle. He posted his version of how he had won and I posted my version of how I won. Then we voted. Everyone in this battle god-modded their enemy's positions and what kind of losses they produced upon Spain.

This is unacceptable. The only way we can truly VOTE for anyone is if they have a deployment stage to prevent god-modding, and a battle stage for final victory...all we got was final victory.

And I am also confused as to who would take control of this province, since both Aiti and Waldenburg paid 5 credits to attack it...and poor Dumii was being attacked in random places, places he may or may not have had troops stationed. (I can understand small time skirmishes where losses of 50-100 men are killed or lost, that's not REALLY god-modding, just adding depth) but killing of 40,000 of his men without knowing his positions is a god-mod.

All-in-all, I sympasize w/ Dumii and his attack on all sides and 20 some RPs going on at once, and all the god-modding going on as of late and his dire situation with DMG and the two Islamic nations.

I really don't think I could vote for a clear winner though, the Islamic posts were better than the Spanish posts, but the Islamics broke the rules of the RP, to no fault of Dumii. But under the circumstances, I would vote for the Tuaregs because of their post's organization and ideas, although the casualty figures are quite improbable.

50% of the Spanish 4th Army KILLED. Warfare in those days mostly saw small percentages killed and HUGE percentages wounded or captured. The battle of Gettysburg, using the same tactics in battles, saw in the upwards of 50,000+ casualties, but roughly 9,000 were actually KIA and more than 40,000 were wounded.

Dumii's post was short and somewhat indecisive, there wasn't much to build up to, but I liked how he made the style of the battle. Unfortunately, it wasn't superbly descriptive and that's why, even though it goes against me, I have to vote for the Islamic alliance, particularly that of Waldenburg and not so much as Aiti.

But this performance was awful, we need to stick to the formula the rules clearly laid out, the deployment stage where armies, well, deploy, and the battle stage where the two or more armies meet eachother on the field. This RP could have been very enjoyable as a read, but this godmodding has to stop. Now.

If everyone is so disapointed in my performance, would you like for me to delete my attack post and do it all over correctly? I am perfectly willing to do so.

No need to do that, we just need a deployment post from all of you, this way it gives dumii a chance to organize his troops as well. You follow?

Battle of Gettysburg was 60 years later. ;)

Alright, so here is my idea.

Dumii, Waldenburg, and I first decide on where our battles take place. To stick with what was said it the attack posts, I'm thinking a field near a major city. We all then write deployment posts, as to the rules, and then based of the deployment posts we revise our attack posts.

and what if it wasn't half the 4th dead, but half the 4th combat ineffective? That seem better?

Alright, so here is my idea.

Dumii, Waldenburg, and I first decide on where our battles take place. To stick with what was said it the attack posts, I'm thinking a field near a major city. We all then write deployment posts, as to the rules, and then based of the deployment posts we revise our attack posts.

and what if it wasn't half the 4th dead, but half the 4th combat ineffective? That seem better?

The problem is that you just decided you would beat one of his armies and kill/injure 40,000 people without him having any say.

This is why we're doing a re-do DMG.

Can we move past the fact that I fucked up? I'm pretty sure we've established that I'm an ass hole godmoder.

So should I write a deployment phase?

Umm... you are the one that wrote this:

and what if it wasn't half the 4th dead, but half the 4th combat ineffective? That seem better?

w/e are we done criticizing now? i know i did that and i'm sorry already.

anyways I'm going to think about we're to deploy my troops and delete my attack post now.

w/e are we done criticizing now? i know i did that and i'm sorry already.

anyways I'm going to think about we're to deploy my troops and delete my attack post now.

gah, I didn't mean anything personal. I'm just saying that we all need to follow rules and shit. Thats all.

I know this probably seems unfair to you, Aiti and Waldenburg, but you have to at least give the man a chance to defend himself. ;)

Sorry if I was being a bit too harsh earlier. Oh, and half of the army made combat ineffective is good for me. Its just the way you worded it thats all.

And all the proper updates were made. Done and done.

w/e are we done criticizing now? i know i did that and i'm sorry already.

anyways I'm going to think about we're to deploy my troops and delete my attack post now.

*Sigh*

Nevermind...

Dumii you need to fix your deployment posts before we can vote.

Don't even bother, since persia is withdrawing I am as well, so as to maintain the appearance of solidarity in the IA. Plus if dumii excepts any of those protection offers I'm not going to want to continue the war.

Muahaha... the power of the Western Alliance.

@VA: We need to talk on MSN

@Dumii: See above

Hey, was looking around the threads and I found this...
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=497072

I don't know, but it kind of reminds me of something familiar...:rolleyes: Maybe this thread?

Hey, was looking around the threads and I found this...
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=497072

I don't know, but it kind of reminds me of something familiar...:rolleyes: Maybe this thread?

Hehe... cool. Though it seems to large to work.

No kidding...even this RP is too large to work. :headbang:

I'd like to do that rp, but it's so large I can't even choose a nation.

I'd like to do that rp, but it's so large I can't even choose a nation.

There is no way that could work unless about 90% of the people were taken over in the first two days.

There is no way that could work unless about 90% of the people were taken over in the first two days.

:p How true. There's like, 30+ Factions and as of today he has only 2-4 takers. Poor fellow.

:p How true. There's like, 30+ Factions and as of today he has only 2-4 takers. Poor fellow.

That's what you get when you go in over your head.

Hey, was looking around the threads and I found this...
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=497072

I don't know, but it kind of reminds me of something familiar...:rolleyes: Maybe this thread?

Hiya, I am the one who made The Thread, and I am still working on it, I got The idea from This Thread, and also since that I can't get on this one since all The factions were taken and I think their will be no new factions.

Well good luck, but it is going to need a little editing.

sorry all but i have been real busy moving and i may or may not get on in the next week or so, if i do it will be short.

Probably won't be a huge deal unless someone decides to attack you.

Hiya, I am the one who made The Thread, and I am still working on it, I got The idea from This Thread, and also since that I can't get on this one since all The factions were taken and I think their will be no new factions.

So yeah, Maldorians, you are hereby kicked for inactivity and rather poor RPing skills. Bye, maybe next time.

Oh, and no problems. I really want this idea of an RP to spread since it is such a cool idea, it just needs some bugs worked out is all.

Woh... big move for VA.

Hey, I think it is the right move. Not to be an elitist or anything, especially since I myself haven't posted in a while, but Maldorians just isn't up to the writing ability here. Everybody can really hold their own except for him, and he isn't nearly active enough to make up for his shortcomings. One of the problems European War is facing is inactivity...the roleplay is becoming stale because of it. This comes as a nice change. HOPEFULLY we can get somebody who can roleplay the Ottomans correctly and with a degree of skill and effort.

Also, I'd like to question Dumii's current status. I know you're busy...I am too, I've got a job and everything and turn in 50+ hours every week. But if you can't stay committed, you should let us know. You control both Spain AND Russia, two nations that are very important and right now are practically dead. Add on top of that the situation with Maldorians, and we've got three out of 11 nations that aren't functioning. Is Lothrain still around? I think it is high time we sort this stuff out...we've got something real good happening here and I'd hate to see it disintigrate.

Bump

I agree...


(ugg... I hate this new format for jolt)

Whoah...different format...

When did they change this? like this morning?

Whoah...different format...

When did they change this? like this morning?

Some time during the night/early morning... I dislike it immensely.

@Wald: I know your letter to Spain is supposed to show France and the UK in a bad light (little propoganda), but since when were the UK and Spain allied?

BTW, what is up with you having naval ships? You don't have any path to the Mediterranean or Atlantic and you don't even have any ports in which you could build them.

@Wald: I know your letter to Spain is supposed to show France and the UK in a bad light (little propoganda), but since when were the UK and Spain allied?

BTW, what is up with you having naval ships? You don't have any path to the Mediterranean or Atlantic and you don't even have any ports in which you could build them.

I granted him some land and access to my ports in north africa.

@ Wald

Your're idea for assasination is similar to what I had in mind. I wouldn't try and kill a member of the Spanish royal family though.

Well good.

I'm not happy about it at all!

lol...maybe he can assassinate Josephine? I mean, she really isn't a huge character in this whole scheme, and she isn't really a high class target, so it may be more conventional.

ack! over a million french troops in argon! holy shit!

@Wald: I know your letter to Spain is supposed to show France and the UK in a bad light (little propoganda), but since when were the UK and Spain allied?

BTW, what is up with you having naval ships? You don't have any path to the Mediterranean or Atlantic and you don't even have any ports in which you could build them.

Oh i thought you had some sort of arrangement at the begining which you broke with Spain, I guess i was just wrong there. As for ships it's been answered.

Oh i thought you had some sort of arrangement at the begining which you broke with Spain, I guess i was just wrong there. As for ships it's been answered.

It was a trade agreement... nothing more.

As for the ships, yes I see.

Okay guys, I'm thinking of changing some things for the balance of the game. But this is going to be a democratic vote, I just don't want to change this and make people hate the RP and quit. So here it is.

Raise base recruitment costs to 8 Credits instead of 4, making raising armies more of a back breaking cost. They are simply too cheap now, and people (like me) have the ability to raise lots of armies at almost no cost. So I need your input.

Raise base support costs from 1 credit to 2 credits. As of now, they are too cheap to even dent your budget in the slightest, I want to make this game a bit more challenging, because the ability to have 40 armies and pay 40 credits in support costs (20 if you have the half support costs) isn't really reasonable, so instead you would have to pay 40 credits for keeping 20 armies. Better, no? (this is gonna be rough for me...ugh)

But anyway, we will start voting for these changes as of now. Please make this quick.

I vote aye!

I'm for it in theory. But would I have to re buy my forces?

I wouldn't think so.

No I wouldn't think so at all...unless you think we should because some people have more troops than others.

well, i don't know if that would be fair to the more militarily endowed of us.

well, i don't know if that would be fair to the more militarily endowed of us.

*snorts at the Tauregs*

Though the Tauregs may have large hordes... they are hardly militarily endowed.

I look at these forums every day TTM. Simply haven't had much to say lately.

I look at these forums every day TTM. Simply haven't had much to say lately.

That sounds fine.

No problems or anything. The vote is still on. so far I have 3 for yay and 0 for nay.

No problems or anything. The vote is still on. so far I have 3 for yay and 0 for nay.

Considering Dumii is playing two people and we no longer have an OE, all we need is 5 votes total for a majority.

I look at these forums every day TTM. Simply haven't had much to say lately.

I sent you a non agression pact sometime ago.

Oh and i vote for raising upkeep costs, but not recruit costs, at least not by double.

Spain: Yay

Russia: Yay

Spain: Yay

Russia: Yay

I think you only get 1 vote...

I vote yay for both. So I think we should be good.

EDIT: Oh, and that's cool Lothrain. I was just checking to see if you were still around.

5 Votes for Yay... motion carries.

I sent you a non agression pact sometime ago.


What post #? I must have missed it.

What post #? I must have missed it.

143 near the bottom.

[Day 10 of Siege of Madrid with no response or contact.]

*snorts at the Tauregs*

Though the Tauregs may have large hordes... they are hardly militarily endowed.

I wasn't refering to myself.

I wasn't refering to myself.

That is what it sounds like when you use that phrase.

That is what it sounds like when you use that phrase.

yeah, I have a reasonably sized army, but when I said that I had France in mind.

ok, everyone must pay 2 credits for their purchased armies, to even out the costs to make it fair. Thats EVERYONE.

You can pay what you can, when you can.

ok, everyone must pay 2 credits for their purchased armies, to even out the costs to make it fair. Thats EVERYONE.

You can pay what you can, when you can.

Don't have it now... I will pay it... eventually (>.<)

lol...me niether.

yo, the IC thread is getting boring...I posted some cool stuff to spice it up because this is getting too slow even for me. -_-.

Lets get some activity, and we need a OE, quickly so we can commence some war!

(btw, As of august 31st I'm not going to be on for a while, I've got to unpack my stuff when I get to Germany and stuff, and I might not be 100% active all the time, I suggested to DMG that he could possibly take over the OOC thread and keep statistics and such, since he is the stickler around here. :D kiddin.) I'm just gonna be rather busy and I won't know when I can have computer access and stuff, so its gonna be rough for a while.

Yeah, I guess I will do it. Instead of creating a new thread I will just put it on my 1st post in this thread (which is the 4th post). When the time comes, tell me, I will copy everything down, and then delete everything in the first post so everyone can see my post easier.

All I will need from everybody else is an orderly OOC post about what they buy and how much it costs each time you purchase something (or declare war or anything).


[Side note: Day 11 of no response/contact... I am not going to wait much longer.]

Coolios DMG, thanks, btw, you have no idea how much this is helping me and the RP. You can start on the 31st, if you want to. Again, thank you DMG.

Waldenburg, I really like what you are doing with the assassin, especially the thickening plot between the military Coup and the assassination of the Emperor's daughter.

I'll post up a bit about Josephine a little later. This should turn out to be a good conspiracy. :eek: :D