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cant someone just start that IC thread? Angermanland?


oh yeah: every fact book after it's first post effectivly becomes the IC thread for that nation's territory, unless a major campagine requires it's own thread...

hehe. i get the feeling no one wants to be the bad guy in thsi war.

did we ever end up working out who won and lost and gained and ceaded in the last war?

no-one is the bad guy.because everyone believes that that they're the good guy

ok.I'll restage my defences.I'll do what i said,but only to major cities and strategic places.and i'll do a big beach-defence thing later when it's probable.OK?

oh,and i'm gonna re-do my factbook.i'm going to make weapons up,but using real names.

To Antigr

I have started bombing Scotland. The major cities and all roads between Scotland and England. Its all in your Factbook sorry for posting there I didnt See the "Please no post here" note before I had created the post I'll delete and re-write if you want.

To Antigr

I have started bombing Scotland. The major cities and all roads between Scotland and England. Its all in your Factbook sorry for posting there I didnt See the "Please no post here" note before I had created the post I'll delete and re-write if you want.


the idea is that that's where such posts would go... you're bombing his territory... his factbook thread [at least if it's specificly for this rp] is the one that covers his territory *shrugs* more information for the factbook can be added tot he first poast by way of the edit button., so that's a non issue.

my pt fact book thread, the first post probilby ran to 5 or 10 pages by the time it was done *laughs*

ok.I'll restage my defences.I'll do what i said,but only to major cities and strategic places.and i'll do a big beach-defence thing later when it's probable.OK?

oh,and i'm gonna re-do my factbook.i'm going to make weapons up,but using real names.


err... i think the whole "makeing up entirely new weapons" bit was... outside the rules.

makeing up your own names, sure...

but if it didn't exist at the time, you can't use it. [else you'd be running into base carriers and the like in my navey still :P ]

of course, there's nothing stopping you from mounting the gun from one tank taht was availble on the hull of a Different tank that was available, and so on.

a prime candidate for that trick is the navy, with armor and aircraft being next most likely.

no-one is the bad guy.because everyone believes that that they're the good guy


true... but no-one's "good-guy-ness" seems to currently involve invadeing anyone else.. 'cept whoever's bombing scotland :D and the russians. [or was that the same one?]

Just to make this clear. This thread is the recruitment thread. Nothing more, nothing less. So please just put your factbooks and major acion threads here. Also, just so we don't have to go through a 10 page "Diplomacy/Factbook/Newspaper" Thread because of an invasion please just post up a new thread like Dominion of Sweden has done. That keep everything a lot cleaner.

For nw weapons please just try and use what has already been made. I know if history changes obviosu funding and research will act according, so different technology but for the sake of sanity let's just use this first go around with real life technology and once everyone gets used to waring and whatnot we can restart the thread when 1950 rolls around ifanyone is still interested or wants to come back.




oh yeah: every fact book after it's first post effectivly becomes the IC thread for that nation's territory, unless a major campagine requires it's own thread...

hehe. i get the feeling no one wants to be the bad guy in thsi war.

did we ever end up working out who won and lost and gained and ceaded in the last war?

Even though the map is missing about a third of the claims I can read well enough and I really can't see why we can't have The War to End All Wars happen like history has laid it out for us.

With some modifications it will probabaly work out. Austrio-Hungry, Germany, and the Ottoman Empire against everybody else. They lose, and voila! That was easy, wasn't it?

Anything else? Well I for one should tell everyone that there is war, just you guys arn't all that on the ball.

Russia's ill fated attack- (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11521846#post11521846)

We could always make an generalized IC thread but usually it'll turn to un-wiedly to actually be effective.

didn't actually Read most of what i said, did you Moorington?

if the fact book is kept just as a fact book, and an IC thread for that area, then all that has to happen si that any new info Gets Edited Into the First Post. there is no need for newspapers... all the Happenings are already in the various threads, and so on.

having played a few RPs, this is actually one of the LESS unweildly ways to try and run it.

edit: also, people need to start useing IC/OOCtags in their threads [guess who some of the major 'culprits' of this one are? :p ]

if this is only a recruitment thread, where the hell should all this ooc stuff go that doesn't clutter the whole thing up, hummm? the constant useage legitimatly bumps it, thus potentually allwoing new people to see and join.

didn't actually Read most of what i said, did you Moorington?

;)

Just so I stop treading on toes I'll just support Anger.

;)

Just so I stop treading on toes I'll just support Anger.


.... somehow, i find this posiblity vaguely worrying...

anyone willing to volenteer to do a complete and up to date map of who has what?

... need a check of who's still active and willing to participate in this, as well.

Too many inactive people and it seems all RPs that already existed/started have already died. Is this RP in its entirety dying?

I'm back to SPAM for a second time. =P

If it is dying, and you still wish to RP WWII with NS nations, I invite you to come to my off-site forum I created. We are always looking for new members, just look through the announcements for the rules. Also, please have a realistic country name :)

Here's the link: http://nseurope1943.s2.bizhat.com/index.php?mforum=nseurope1943

Yeah, I have that feeling to, just to make sure I don't get burned I think I am going to take Titawon up on his offer.

Honestly, I like the Bradenburg thing and I hope this gets off the ground, but honestly, where did the Dominion of Sweden go?

Sorry to say but if this RP doesnt start within this week I'm gone. I think this will/would be a great rp, but I cant keep turning other RPs down because this might start sometime soon. I say we just start ONE IC thread and see where it goes from there. At least, then something is happening.

Kirisubo may be neutral but i can start something off in the pacific easily enough. from there we'll see what happens

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11546101#post11546101

Sorry to say but if this RP doesnt start within this week I'm gone. I think this will/would be a great rp, but I cant keep turning other RPs down because this might start sometime soon. I say we just start ONE IC thread and see where it goes from there. At least, then something is happening.


... my solution to that problem is that i just play ALL of them :D

hehe true enough but starting my final year at school soon I'm not going to spend all that time in NS ;)

you may like to know that mother Russia isn't the only nation with girl fliers as Angermanland has found out :)

that thread is open to everyone although, not just the pacific nations.

you may like to know that mother Russia isn't the only nation with girl fliers as Angermanland has found out :)

that thread is open to everyone although, not just the pacific nations.


hehe... it wouldn't worry my guys too much... they've had a history of haveing women in every role in their military from foot soldier back in the days of swords and armor, right up to generals in most eras...

note how they really don't mind? :D


and..... unless someone else like, say, Russia want's to pop up with a sub or something and start sinking Kirsubian ships, or the captains are a bit... nutty...

that's the end of that event :S

i'll still be continuing the military exercise although so the DOR has a chance to do things.

cool.... i think most of the players gave up though :(

ok sorry guys I'm officially dumping this RP

ayup, there it goes *le sigh*

oh no it doesn't.not if i can help it.My army is armed and at the ready,anyone respond to that? ;)

oh,and can i please use those weapons i made up?

oh no it doesn't.not if i can help it.My army is armed and at the ready,anyone respond to that? ;)

oh,and can i please use those weapons i made up?


..... if i hadn't already put a lot of effort into makeing my nation conform [note how massivly re-writen the navey is?] and if other nations weren't also trying to fit into the rules.. i'd say yes.

but as it is? nope. like i said, ficticious combinations of real tech from the era is legit
[want to build a really rediculous tank which mounts one of the bigger naval guns? you can if you can justify how it's not just falling over, how fireing doesn't break it, how it still manages to move, and it has some weaknesses, etc.]

so you can design your own tanks, but all the components must have been available. same with aircraft, ships, etc etc.

edit: and because i somehow forgot to say this: useing anything entirely ficticious in the current enviromnet is a no.

Ok angermanland,i'm using actual american weapons.But i have built 7 made-up vehicle typs on lengthened,strengthened,and modified M3 Stuart Chassis.OK?

Ok angermanland,i'm using actual american weapons.But i have built 2 made-up vehicles on lengthened M3 Stuart Chassis.OK?


if the gear fits the time period and you actually state somewhere what their capabilitys are so we can tell if they should actually have blowen up/survived/hit/missed/damaged when stuff happens [mostly to avoid arguments in the first place, also to help resolve any that do come up] then it's all good :)

nothing wrong with building it a bit bigger, tweaking it a bit, and so on... alternate history after all. just gotta keep it in the realm of reasonable plausability :)

[i refuse to say realisem. reality is when a dude with a spear brings down a hellecopter and then gets shot in the head by a rifle... stupid crap happens. hehe.]

Angermanland,take a look at my factbook.is THAT alright?the series VI and VII aren't in service for 3 years yet,and the prototypes are very few and far between.OK?

oy... brand names *sigh* admitidly it looks better, but it'd be easyer to keep track if it was raw stats rather than brands and serial numbers.

still, from what i can tell, it Looks alright. but i'm not realy an expert on the era. raw specs would have at least let me compair it with my own stuff [which i checked up on, and Know is legit... now... wasn't to start wtih]

anyways, yeah, it's good.


now... can we have something Happen sometime soon? that'd be nice :)

unless there's, like, a war thread i'm not aware of or something where something is happening already?

oy... brand names *sigh* admitidly it looks better, but it'd be easyer to keep track if it was raw stats rather than brands and serial numbers.

still, from what i can tell, it Looks alright. but i'm not realy an expert on the era. raw specs would have at least let me compair it with my own stuff [which i checked up on, and Know is legit... now... wasn't to start wtih]

anyways, yeah, it's good.


now... can we have something Happen sometime soon? that'd be nice :)

unless there's, like, a war thread i'm not aware of or something where something is happening already?

I actually think this thread is about dead as a door knob, but we can always start another. So should we start again, us two or three as the tri-founders and then see where it goes from there?

ehh... why not? worth a shot. ... i'd want to relax the tech limits.. but i can't really think of a way of doing it that doesn't totaly defeat the purpose one way or another.

yeah... sure, lets do that.

on a different and totaly unreleated note: anyone else find the new[ish] layout of the forums with the "nation states" skin annoying?

I'm dumping this, too. Sorry.

ehh... why not? worth a shot. ... i'd want to relax the tech limits.. but i can't really think of a way of doing it that doesn't totaly defeat the purpose one way or another.

yeah... sure, lets do that.

on a different and totaly unreleated note: anyone else find the new[ish] layout of the forums with the "nation states" skin annoying?

Well I find it actually pretty nice but it still annoys me, they dropped my skin style (Call of Duty) and so I am pretty annoyed at it too.

why don't we move this onto a cold war setting now the basics are in place?

sometime in the 60's would be cool.

then you/we/whatever have to make a whole new military.

thats not a problem.

a Kirisubo of the 60's would have access to fast jet interceptors, jet bombers and the updated version of their WW2 tanks and warships.

they would have the helicopter as well as flying boats for sea rescues so its not too much of a jump

humm. technological set up, check... social? check.... geopolitical?

errr... are we just going to say this 'second world war' never happend then?

hehehe. interesting things that shall appear in the Angerman arsenal: jet powered dive bombers. fortress ships. base carriers. Ripper class submarines [no, you do NOT want to run into one of those :P] bombers the equivilant of the russian "Bear" [those things could launch ICBMs, or excessive amounts of conventional ordinance. anti-carrier group weapons, really] APTBs [think my nice little patrol/motor boats. make them stronger, a bit bigger, and give them jetboat engines... i think they're available at this point?]

humm... lots and lots of heatseaking, man portable anti aircraft weapons [and some which are less than man portable too :P

oh... and the return of something i created for the now defunct turtledove cold war rp: the evisoration class ship. hybrid troop transport/cruiser. it was designed so you'd need concrete busters to get through it's armor, but the armor was curved so they'd just skip off.

'course, for land troops, they'll still mostly be infantry and artillary. mabey halftracks. probibly a decided lack of main battle tanks. and in the air, well, i'll probibly only have two types of plane besides the 'bear'. the dive bombers and some sort of fighter/intercepter, probibly.

i'm assumeing we'll just stick with the borders we have now? or adjust them out a bit? cold war nessesitates superpowers, few but large... with my grip on the pacific, i'm guessing that makes me one... not sure where it leaves anyone else...

any objections, do tell... and start the apropriate thread, whack a link in here, and we can begin :)

Well, I do not know about the can't be destroyed transport ship but everything else I am ready to do.

oh, it CAN be destroyed...

just not, as a rule, by aircraft carrying conventional weapons.

a lucky hit, especially to a turret, would open it up well enough for another shot to do real damage.

a sub can still hit it in the engines.

a significant bombardment from a battleship or heavy cruser would probibly take it out. it's not invulnerable.

actually, i'm not sure why no one ever used the "curved full armor" design... it generates a bit of waste space inside it, i guess, but it doesn't need to be as thick... meh *shrugs* and it does pretty much make useing aircraft to take it out a waste of time.

mines would be a significant problem for it. any sub angleing a torpedo up into the underside of the deck[?] between the hulls ['tis a trimaran] would certainly make a hole. navel artillary from close enough that it wasn't arcing too much would hit it on the flattest part, probibly, that is the sides just above the water line...

*shrugs*

i'd like to do it in WWII.More action,more difficult,and in the sixties,all anyone did was smoke cannabis and drink.

i'd like to do it in WWII.More action,more difficult,and in the sixties,all anyone did was smoke cannabis and drink.

personaly, once you get past the napolionic era, mabey american civil war [which, technicly, wasn't a civil war at all as the union and the confederacy were two distinctly seperate nations BEFORE the war started. if i remember correctly, anyway.] it really makes no difference to me When it's set, so long as someone gives me a rundown of what is and isn't possible in that time period.

if we do try and play out WW2 later than it happened (say 1945) we would have advanced into the early jet flight era as well as early atomic weaponry.

I doubt tank and other weapon design would advance much because it takes a war to make improvements.

if we do try and play out WW2 later than it happened (say 1945) we would have advanced into the early jet flight era as well as early atomic weaponry.

I doubt tank and other weapon design would advance much because it takes a war to make improvements.

I feel we should just progress from 1939 along the same paths of technology; get a better feel for our nations and once we hit 1990 or 2000 we switch back to 1939 again but maybe incorporate a little but more uniqueness to the timeline which would be regulated by an already defined moderator team.

I feel we should just progress from 1939 along the same paths of technology; get a better feel for our nations and once we hit 1990 or 2000 we switch back to 1939 again but maybe incorporate a little but more uniqueness to the timeline which would be regulated by an already defined moderator team.

... i have no idea why, this should make sense, but it's going right past me.... want to try explaining that again?

Just get some real mods, and start from 1939. It's an idea and I guess we could start from 1960 or something like that but I feel we should at least keep to around WWII.

we can easily start this again in 1939 since some of us already have fact books written.

humm.. yeup.


some of the best rp i've ever done was pretty much mod and rules free. when you've got decent players, it goes really well, but falls over as soon as someone decides to be an idiot.

better to have good mods and as few strict rules as possible... plays better.


certainly, trying to assign number values to htings in this format doesn't work veyr well. forces a load of calculation at the expence of fun.

Im sooo sorry. I forgot about this.... Im still holland, I guess. Do you have a link for the IC thread? i hope i havent been pwned.

I spent a lot of time writing and re-writing my factbook.i'm not gonna write another one.Besides,read the title.it says 'WW2' doesn't it?

oh, it CAN be destroyed...

just not, as a rule, by aircraft carrying conventional weapons.

a lucky hit, especially to a turret, would open it up well enough for another shot to do real damage.

a sub can still hit it in the engines.

a significant bombardment from a battleship or heavy cruser would probibly take it out. it's not invulnerable.

actually, i'm not sure why no one ever used the "curved full armor" design... it generates a bit of waste space inside it, i guess, but it doesn't need to be as thick... meh *shrugs* and it does pretty much make useing aircraft to take it out a waste of time.

mines would be a significant problem for it. any sub angleing a torpedo up into the underside of the deck[?] between the hulls ['tis a trimaran] would certainly make a hole. navel artillary from close enough that it wasn't arcing too much would hit it on the flattest part, probibly, that is the sides just above the water line...

*shrugs*

By the sixties,you wouldn't have battleships anymore.see the disadvantages now?

By the sixties,you wouldn't have battleships anymore.see the disadvantages now?

actually, the reason no one had battle ships is that no one was will to spend the money to build ones that were good enough to deal with the threat of aircraft.

if one were to build battleships now, they would be all but untouchable to current aircraft [modern materials, design, etc].

you'd probibly end up with a fleet containing 2 aircraft carriers and a battle ship or vice versa *shrugs* in a modern navel engagement, aircraft carriers would matter, battleships would matter, subs would matter and anything else may as well only have countermessures for various things.

a modern aircraft carrier, even takeing into account it's ability to stand well off and fight iwth it's aircraft, is Still more vulnerable than a modern battleship would be. ... i think it's the same in the 60s, though i can't remember.

all but a couple of the battleships in ww2 were obsolete modles at the time, and had been further restricted by ... what was taht treaty... the one that limited how much armor they could have...

in it's own right, a battle ship would be less of a decideing factor than it was pre ww2, however it is still significant due to the shear amount of armor and firepower it can bring to bear, and it's ability to provided effective off shore bombardment to support ground troops.

oh... and people have found countermessures for aircraft and missiles. the only countermessure knowen to man against balistic shells is either not being there, or haveing a LOT of stuff between you and said shell [like... battle ship armor :P]

hehe. think of it as my giveing the world and incentive to buld battleships again :D

that, and i'm reasonably sure there's going to be a few crusiers around still. heck, if you're willing to waste a whole bunch of frigates, they Might be able to put enough rounds into it [mabey... probibly not. they'd get shot much.]

besides, this particular transport ship was ment to be a new and secret weapon.. there's like, 1 to start wtih, then 2, then 3...

by the time i had many of them, i'm reasonably sure someone would have found a way around them... like, battleships with a similar armour design so that they can all but ignore aircraft, though mabey not as well as the transport due to the need for more guns etc, and have an easyer time against shells [expencive, but do-able. the expense is the main reason no one's done it yet]. or, more likely, an increase in the proportion of subs in their naveys.

personaly, by the sixtys, i Would have battleships.... probibly more than i did aircraft carriers. infact, my line of thinking would probibly lead to aircraft carriers carrying fighters exclusivly to keep any enemy planes off my ships while the battleships closed in to rip things appart *shrugs*

.... i appear to have writen rather a lot. i'll stop.

WWII!the only 60's war was the vietnam war,which,for me,is very hard to do.

Sadly; I am having a lot les time on the CP then I would like; so I must step down and ask someone else to make and administer the hopeful new thread.

WWII!the only 60's war was the vietnam war,which,for me,is very hard to do.

i think the point is that one would use cold war era tech.

and i think this thread seems mostly dead.

so sad.

ckfu.

ckfu.

and that would be, what, in english?

Same here, I was just waiting until someone waited to explain it to me.

'ckfu' in english:

put the 'fu' behind the 'ck' and it's a swearword,because this thread is dead.

'ckfu' in english:

put the 'fu' behind the 'ck' and it's a swearword,because this thread is dead.

ahh. i see. thanks for that.

this thread really is kaput.

this thread really is kaput.

yes. i think we established that. thanks for bringing it back though :P

hehe. i've got into a PT rp set in the middle ages now. much more my thing.