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Irish/Toopoxican War Idea/Sign-Up/OOC Thread (ATTN TOOPOXIA)

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Liberated New Ireland
26-06-2006, 22:16
Main Thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=489727)

Alright, I've decided to make this public. Me and Toopoxia are preparing to go to war with each other. This here is an OOC and sign up thread, and it's so we can hammer out the backstory for our little war.

Two-line posters are not welcome. Same for godmoders, of course.

The Sides:

Toopoxia
Blackhelm Confederacy
RFF

LNI
Hydac?
Wanderjar

Neutral
Jaredcohenia
The Aeson


The Map:

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h297/Aenimus/LNI.jpg


Blue dots represent bases with air force elements.
Jaredcohenia
26-06-2006, 22:17
Well, what is the reason for this war? :S
The Aeson
26-06-2006, 22:18
Ooh, I could deploy Shadowmen?

(Elite special forces, yes, they're human, yes they can fit into either MT or PMT)
Liberated New Ireland
26-06-2006, 22:19
Well, what is the reason for this war? :S
We're still working that out. Punk.


Ooh, I could deploy Shadowmen?

(Elite special forces, yes, they're human, yes they can fit into either MT or PMT)
I already read about 'em. I say, sure, what the hell.
Toopoxia
26-06-2006, 22:20
Well, what is the reason for this war? :S

I think what me and LNI had hammered out so far was that my Weapons organisation pisses people in LNI off until one of my high profile dudes in the company gets assassinated, then I send in spies to find out what's going on and he discovers my spys, and oila, we're at war.

Important Wiki Articles:

Toopoxia (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Toopoxia)
LNI (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Liberated_New_Ireland)
Jaredcohenia
26-06-2006, 22:21
PUNK!?

You have insulted my nation! Therefore...I'll aid Toopoxia :)
Liberated New Ireland
26-06-2006, 22:22
I think what me and LNI had hammered out so far was that my Weapons organisation pisses people in LNI off until one of my high profile dudes in the company gets assassinated, then I send in spies to find out what's going on and he discovers my spys, and oila, we're at war.
Toopoxia, my question is, are we going to RP that out, or say that happened, past tense, in the first post?

Because, that's going to take forever. Probably. Maybe.
Blackhelm Confederacy
26-06-2006, 22:25
Thr Griffincrest Corporation helps Toopoxia. The Blackhelm Confederacy, on the other hand, remains neutral.
Toopoxia
26-06-2006, 22:26
Toopoxia, my question is, are we going to RP that out, or say that happened, past tense, in the first post?

Because, that's going to take forever. Probably. Maybe.

Yeah, just don't make my people do things out of character, oooh, you could assassinate Sergei Solov if you want, he's the current CEO of the organisation and he's really close to the leader of Toopoxia David Du'Font, plus I hate RPing as him cos he's a pansy.
Liberated New Ireland
26-06-2006, 22:26
...Isn't your nation run by Griffencrest?
Liberated New Ireland
26-06-2006, 22:27
Yeah, just don't make my people do things out of character, oooh, you could assassinate Sergei Solov if you want, he's the current CEO of the organisation and he's really close to the leader of Toopoxia David Du'Font, plus I hate RPing as him cos he's a pansy.
Excellente. I'll start writing the backstory tonight...
The Aeson
26-06-2006, 22:27
Yeah, just don't make my people do things out of character, oooh, you could assassinate Sergei Solov if you want, he's the current CEO of the organisation and he's really close to the leader of Toopoxia David Du'Font, plus I hate RPing as him cos he's a pansy.

You know, you're going to run out of people willing to be CEO pretty soon.
Blackhelm Confederacy
26-06-2006, 22:28
...Isn't your nation run by Griffencrest?

No thats what makes them so damn hard to get. They are like a giant super corporation that employs 10% of the population, and basically runs the country, but are not in charge of the Confederate army, and can't do some things. The CEO can easily influence the Chancellor though.
Liberated New Ireland
26-06-2006, 22:33
No thats what makes them so damn hard to get. They are like a giant super corporation that employs 10% of the population, and basically runs the country, but are not in charge of the Confederate army, and can't do some things. The CEO can easily influence the Chancellor though.
Sounds like a long way of saying "yes" to me...
Toopoxia
26-06-2006, 22:34
You know, you're going to run out of people willing to be CEO pretty soon.

Aha, but i'm not, what I'm planning as that for the war David owns the corporation and then never leaves, thus making the corporation semi privatised, and adding to a kikass story arc, and David has always been deeply jealous of the Toopoxican organisation.
Hydac
26-06-2006, 22:37
Since I'm Toopoxia's neighbor and he already invade me once, I'm in.

Hydac still has scores to settle with Toopoxia and Griffencrest.

Also, it gives me the chance to try out my newly upgraded military. I'll post equipment and info later.
Blackhelm Confederacy
26-06-2006, 22:37
Sounds like a long way of saying "yes" to me...

Eh, kinda i guess
Toopoxia
27-06-2006, 03:20
BUMP)
Liberated New Ireland
27-06-2006, 03:22
*bumps thread back on to third page*
Blackhelm Confederacy
27-06-2006, 04:54
So when is this gunna start up?
Hydac
27-06-2006, 05:06
What's the set up for the war?
Hydac
27-06-2006, 05:23
Here's my miltary info.

Army:
4 Mechanized Infantry Brigades (116 Desert Warrior IFVs, 58 Merkava IV tanks, 24 Crusader SPH, 8 M270 MLRS, various M113s, trucks, and Humvees)
2 Armoured Brigades (116 Merkava IV tanks, 58 Desert Warrior IFVs, 24 Crusader SPH, 8 M270 MLRS, various M113s, trucks, and Humvees)
1 Mechanized Cavalry Regiment
1 Airmobile Brigade
6 Light Infantry Brigades
-all brigades contain 3 line battalions, 1 artillery battalion, 1 air defense battalion, 1 combat engineer battalion, 1 brigade support battalion, 1 MP company, 1 recon troop
1 Attack Aviation Brigade (24 AH-64 Apache, 24 OH-58 Kiowa Warriors)
1 Transport Aviation Brigade (40 UH-60 Blackhawks, 12 CH-47 CHinooks)


Air Force:
1 Fighter Wing (72 F-15SGs)
1 Attack Wing (36 A-10)
1 Support Wing (12 KC-130, 12 E-2 AWACS birds)

Navy:
12 Shamal class patrol boats (my own design)
Wanderjar
27-06-2006, 14:34
PUNK!?

You have insulted my nation! Therefore...I'll aid Toopoxia :)

You declared war on my allly, therefore i'll aid New Ireland. :p
Wanderjar
27-06-2006, 14:35
Is this MT, PMT, or FT?

I need to know so that I know which of my Legions to deploy :D
The Aeson
27-06-2006, 14:37
Well, I know it isn't FT.

So either PMT or MT. Put your space fleets away.
Wanderjar
27-06-2006, 14:55
Well, I know it isn't FT.

So either PMT or MT. Put your space fleets away.

Ok Aeson....:(

*Turns around*

"Sorry Grand Admiral." *24 Imperator Class Star Destroyers, one Eclipse ISD, 100 Sword Gunships, 1 Titan Battle Barge, and 10 Million Clone soldiers of the Wanderjar System 7th Flotilla turn around, and return home*

Ok, i'll go clean the dust off my MT and PMT stuff....
Toopoxia
27-06-2006, 16:40
It's MT, me and LNI both use RPG-7's so I'm sure it's not PMT, that said I'm sure you could push Low PMT cos right now MT does seem to be bordering Low MT.
Hydac
27-06-2006, 18:44
We need to make of list of people who are in and what side their own. Toopoxia can tell you how confusing our Desert War RP was.
Toopoxia
27-06-2006, 18:51
Toopoxia
Blackhelm Confederacy

LNI
Hydac?
Wonderjar

Nuetral
Jaredcohenia
The Aeson

That's who we've got so far, but I need to ask Aeson which side he wants to be on... I'm guessing LNI cos the Aesonians have already been at war with the Toopoxican organisation.
Jaredcohenia
27-06-2006, 18:57
I dunno actually...LNI I believe is in the GASN if I remember and I don't want to be ejected.

So put me as neutral.
Jaredcohenia
27-06-2006, 18:59
Yeah he is in it. :S
Hydac
27-06-2006, 19:01
I'll likely be on LNI's side.
Blackhelm Confederacy
27-06-2006, 19:03
Bastard
The Aeson
27-06-2006, 19:10
Toopoxia
Blackhelm Confederacy

LNI
Hydac?
Wonderjar

Nuetral
Jaredcohenia

That's who we've got so far, but I need to ask Aeson which side he wants to be on... I'm guessing LNI cos the Aesonians have already been at war with the Toopoxican organisation.

Really? When did that happen? Probably LNI, yes, but I may end up playing both sides against the middle.
Toopoxia
27-06-2006, 19:15
Really? When did that happen?

Wait, it was you who blew up the Toopoxican HQ therfore killing Lucian Brave many innocents and causing poison gas to travel across the City of Volitaia, so not at war more sort of grrrrrness.
The Aeson
27-06-2006, 19:22
Wait, it was you who blew up the Toopoxican HQ therfore killing Lucian Brave many innocents and causing poison gas to travel across the City of Volitaia, so not at war more sort of grrrrrness.

Yeah, but those were terrorists, not my government.
Toopoxia
27-06-2006, 19:24
Yeah, but those were terrorists, not my government.

eh, same difference, but anywho I'll put you down as LNI with a ? mark to signify your possible nuetrality.
The Aeson
27-06-2006, 19:26
eh, same difference, but anywho I'll put you down as LNI with a ? mark to signify your possible nuetrality.

Is neutrality a polite way of saying screwing both parties to further my own ends?
Jaredcohenia
27-06-2006, 19:27
Is neutrality a polite way of saying screwing both parties to further my own ends?

Yep.
Liberated New Ireland
27-06-2006, 21:54
I have returned, from a crazy power outage.

DC weather SUCKS!



Oh, yeah, Toopoxia, I updated the hell out of my army. We aren't using Soviet bloc weapons anymore. The Proffesionals (regulars) are using Steyr AUGs, M-240s, and LAWs, the Kerns (light infantry) are using weapons from this guy: THIS GUY!!!!! (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=488825)

Toops, do you have any details on your air force?
Toopoxia
27-06-2006, 21:58
No info yet, they're modifications of the Egyptian Air Force, I'll get right on it remember all my military vechile and equipment info can be found on the Toopoxican Organisations Wiki page.
Liberated New Ireland
27-06-2006, 22:10
No info yet, they're modifications of the Egyptian Air Force, I'll get right on it remember all my military vechile and equipment info can be found on the Toopoxican Organisations Wiki page.
Egyptian Air Force? They use foreign planes, you know (e.g., Dassault Mirage, F-16, MiG 21).

How big is it?
Toopoxia
27-06-2006, 22:29
Egyptian Air Force? They use foreign planes, you know (e.g., Dassault Mirage, F-16, MiG 21).

How big is it?

all the info is now on the NS wiki pages detailing my nation and my organisation.
Liberated New Ireland
27-06-2006, 22:47
So, you've got 1200 fighters, 360 light bombers, and 360 torpedo bombers.

I'm thinking I should scale down my air force (8000 F-22s, a few thousand Tupolev Blackjacks and Backfires...)

Oh, if you need more bomber power, you could modify your torpedo bombers into light bombers, since I don't have a navy.
Toopoxia
27-06-2006, 23:26
So, you've got 1200 fighters, 360 light bombers, and 360 torpedo bombers.

I'm thinking I should scale down my air force (8000 F-22s, a few thousand Tupolev Blackjacks and Backfires...)

Oh, if you need more bomber power, you could modify your torpedo bombers into light bombers, since I don't have a navy.

They're both interchangeable as they operate on the same bodyframe, it's just that 360 are primarilly naval bombers but basically classify it as 720 Land Bombers (PLB stands for Poxican Land Bombers) with an optional 360 as Naval Bombers.
Liberated New Ireland
27-06-2006, 23:31
They're both interchangeable as they operate on the same bodyframe, it's just that 360 are primarilly naval bombers but basically classify it as 720 Land Bombers (PLB stands for Poxican Land Bombers) with an optional 360 as Naval Bombers.
Alright.

I'm writing the backstory of our war right now, but it's going to take a while.
The Aeson
28-06-2006, 00:48
I have returned, from a crazy power outage.

DC weather SUCKS!



Oh, yeah, Toopoxia, I updated the hell out of my army. We aren't using Soviet bloc weapons anymore. The Proffesionals (regulars) are using Steyr AUGs, M-240s, and LAWs, the Kerns (light infantry) are using weapons from this guy: THIS GUY!!!!! (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=488825)

Toops, do you have any details on your air force?

Oh yeah, I bought the DPRs for his ISS system and one of the guns. Did you know that you can modify the temperature control to make it a thermal cloaking suit?

Now you know

And knowing is half the battle.

The other half is weasels, stabbing, logistics, and tactics
Liberated New Ireland
28-06-2006, 01:00
Well, you should know that I pwn logistics, weasels, stabbing, AND tactics.


Ssss... Take that, Joe.
The Aeson
28-06-2006, 02:01
Well, you should know that I pwn logistics, weasels, stabbing, AND tactics.


Ssss... Take that, Joe.

Heh. Well here's what Cobra training consists of.

Linky. (http://www.mcsweeneys.net/2002/01/02cobra.html)
Liberated New Ireland
28-06-2006, 02:12
That's awesome.

COBRA!!!
The Aeson
28-06-2006, 02:13
That's awesome.

COBRA!!!

How's that backstory of yours coming, anyways?
Liberated New Ireland
28-06-2006, 02:15
How's that backstory of yours coming, anyways?
Badly. I've got like, two paragraphs written.
I got caught up by The Juggernaut Bitch. And other assorted YouTube crap.
I'm gonna get back to work soon...
Leafanistan
28-06-2006, 02:17
I am willing to sell weapons to 'organizations' involved.

Most likely the Griffencrest Corporation whom I'll probably sell a whole bunch of shit to.
The Aeson
28-06-2006, 02:18
I am willing to sell weapons to 'organizations' involved.

Most likely the Griffencrest Corporation whom I'll probably sell a whole bunch of shit to.

I may buy some weapons too. Do you sell nuclear weaponry at the mafia storefront yet?
The World Soviet Party
28-06-2006, 02:21
PUNK!?

You have insulted my nation! Therefore...I'll aid Toopoxia :)

You dont even need an army, in Jaredcohenia people carry AK-74's with them at all times :p
Leafanistan
28-06-2006, 02:22
I may buy some weapons too. Do you sell nuclear weaponry at the mafia storefront yet?

OOC: At the moment the price for a tactical warhead is negotiable, because I just recieved a Trillion dollars in funding. When I finish my new Universal Exports storefront, it'll have Nuclear Weapons standard.
Jaredcohenia
28-06-2006, 02:30
You dont even need an army, in Jaredcohenia people carry AK-74's with them at all times :p

Eh? They use AK108s. o_O With grenade launchers. o_O
The Aeson
28-06-2006, 02:31
You dont even need an army, in Jaredcohenia people carry AK-74's with them at all times :p

In Soviet Jaredcohenia, AK-74's carry you.

Or AK-108s with grenade launchers.
The World Soviet Party
28-06-2006, 02:33
Eh? They use AK108s. o_O With grenade launchers. o_O

Hmm... Maybe they'd be interested in buying B-45's "Thumper" then...
Liberated New Ireland
28-06-2006, 02:33
In Russia, TV watch you!!
Liberated New Ireland
28-06-2006, 02:34
Nearly finished with backstory, BTW.
Asperitas
28-06-2006, 02:34
Hey could I join Toopoxia's side? He seems to lacking on the alliances side; though I could really care less whos side you put me on as long as my men see combat action. Also, when you said two liners what more did you want than 'What side' and 'Why'?
Jaredcohenia
28-06-2006, 02:34
In Soviet Jaredcohenia, AK-74's carry you.

Or AK-108s with grenade launchers.

Hey stop making fun of my nation's Russian heritage D: You're not Yakov Shmirnoff! Or wahtever his name was...
The Aeson
28-06-2006, 02:36
Hey could I join Toopoxia's side? He seems to lacking on the alliances side; though I could really care less whos side you put me on as long as my men see combat action. Also, when you said two liners what more did you want than 'What side' and 'Why'?

I think he meant in the actual RP. Two lines as a sign up is probably fine. He just wants substance in your IC posts.
Liberated New Ireland
28-06-2006, 02:37
I think he meant in the actual RP. Two lines as a sign up is probably fine. He just wants substance in your IC posts.
Our judges say...
Bing!
YES, YOU ARE CORRECT!!!
The World Soviet Party
28-06-2006, 02:37
In Soviet Russia, TV watches YOU!

FIXT!
Toopoxia
28-06-2006, 02:38
Hey could I join Toopoxia's side? He seems to lacking on the alliances side; though I could really care less whos side you put me on as long as my men see combat action. Also, when you said two liners what more did you want than 'What side' and 'Why'?

Yeah sure, I need all the help I can get, k about two lines that's more for when we create the IC thread, we don't want people just saying "I send my troops here and they fire!" You get the picture.

Also his name was Yakov Schmirnov and his was famous originally for saying "In California you must find the party, in Soviet Russia Party finds you!" And also Toopoxia is Russian descended.
Wanderjar
28-06-2006, 02:39
I dunno actually...LNI I believe is in the GASN if I remember and I don't want to be ejected.

So put me as neutral.

I'm in GASN...


Anyway, i'll commit 10 Million men at first. Sound good LNI? I'll post the equipment based upon the situation.
The World Soviet Party
28-06-2006, 02:39
Also his name was Yakov Schmirnov and his was famous originally for saying "In California you must find the party, in Soviet Russia Party finds you!" And also Toopoxia is Russian descended.

Ah, Comrade, maybe you'd be interested in buying APC's then?
The Aeson
28-06-2006, 02:40
Yeah sure, I need all the help I can get, k about two lines that's more for when we create the IC thread, we don't want people just saying "I send my troops here and they fire!" You get the picture.

Also his name was Yakov Schmirnov and his was famous originally for saying "In California you must find the party, in Soviet Russia Party finds you!" And also Toopoxia is Russian descended.

Other famous ones, (more or less) include

"I love American women. They do things sexually that Russian women never even thought of. Like shower."

And, "In Russia, you're not allowed to be gay. The punishment is to be locked up with all the other gay men. And for that, there is a three month waiting list."
Toopoxia
28-06-2006, 02:41
Ah, Comrade, maybe you'd be interested in buying APC's then?

My nation is Russian descended but it isn't Communist, infact it's a tinpotted Middle Eastern dictatorship, plus i'm fine with the PATC and the P2.
The World Soviet Party
28-06-2006, 02:43
Other famous ones, (more or less) include

"I love American women. They do things sexually that Russian women never even thought of. Like shower."

And, "In Russia, you're not allowed to be gay. The punishment is to be locked up with all the other gay men. And for that, there is a three month waiting list."

A test was made at the US, Soviet Union and Israel, the only question was "What do you think about the lack of meat?". The test failed because the US'ers didnt know what "lack" meant, Russians didnt know what "Meat" meant, and Israelis didnt know what "of" meant.
Liberated New Ireland
28-06-2006, 02:44
Other famous ones, (more or less) include

"I love American women. They do things sexually that Russian women never even thought of. Like shower."

And, "In Russia, you're not allowed to be gay. The punishment is to be locked up with all the other gay men. And for that, there is a three month waiting list."
ROFLMAO!

I love this one story about Yakov:
He was in touring in Wisconsin, I think, and he turned on the radio. There is this station who reports as WKGB. Naturally, their tagline is "We're the KGB, and we're watching you."
Yakov heard that and crashed his car.
Wanderjar
28-06-2006, 02:48
4x MEUs (Marine Expenditionary Units) at Wars begin:
(multiply all Marine equipment by 4)

15,000 Marine Uniforms, include: Digital/Pixel Camouflage BDU, Helmet, Inteceptor Body Armor, Combat boots, & Combat vest. Ballistic/Laser Protective Spectacles, Shovel, Flashlights, Chemical lights, Combat/Surivial Knife, and Bayonet. Objective Force Warrior Equipment
30 M1A2 Abrams
36 F/A-18E/F Super Hornets
20 F-35C JSFs
5 EA-18G Growlers (EW)
24 CH-53E Super Stallions
60 M777 155mm lightweight field howitzers
72 M220 TOW launchers
631 M1043 HMMWVs (All equipped with M2 .50 caliber Machine Gun & Mk19 40mm automatic grenade launcher)
12 Patriot Missile Batteries
300 Stinger missile launchers
30 HMMWV Avenger Anti-Aircraft Missile System
60 HIMARS Rocket Artillery
24 AH-1Z Super Cobras
12 KC-130J Refueling Hercules
36 MV-22B Ospreys
489 MTVRs
121 LVS
41 Reverse Osmosis Water Purification Units
40 LMT 3000 Water Purification Unit
30 Sea Tractor
40 TRAMs (10,000 lb. Capacity Forklifts)
20 Four Thousand lb. Capacity Forklifts
30 D-7 Bulldozers
9 UH-1Y Hueys
7 M88A1 Tank Recovery Vehicles
109 AAAVs
112 LAV-25s
15,000 XM-8 rifles with varients
15,000 M9 Beratta
15,000 MP-5 Submachine Guns
15,000 Colt .45
5000 Remington 870 Shotguns
5000 Winchester 1200 Shotguns
5000 Mossberg 890 Shotguns
9,000 various Grenades, include: M67 Frag Grenade, M18 Colored Smoke Grenade, Flashbang/ Stun Grenade
500 lbs of C4 explosive
800 M240G Machine Guns
90 SOFLAM laser Designators
5 Pioneer Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAV)
120 M224 60mm Mortar
100 M252 81mm Medium Extended Range Mortar
350 Javelin missile launchers

500x M1A1 Abrams


Wanderjarian Imperial Navy (MT)
(Toop, i decided to go easy on you :p )

5x Lord Class Heavy Battleship
15x CG-47 Ticonderoga Class Cruiser
5x DD-963 SPRUANCE Class Destroyer
2x CVN-68 Nimitz-class
5x SSN-688 Los Angeles Class
WIN Challenger(BB-135)
WIN Berlin(BB-136)
WIN Heatheridge(BB-137)
WIN Louisiana(BB-139) ex-Essex
WIN Fontaine(BB-140) ex St Matthews
WIN Cheyenne(BB-141)
WIN Leonid(BB-142)
WIN Gatlin Star(BB-143)
WIN Kirk(BB-144)
WIN Rigel(BB-145)
WIN Chkalov(BB146)
4x DDG-51 Arleigh Burke Class Guided Missile Destroyer
Toopoxia
28-06-2006, 02:52
(Toop, i decided to go easy on you :p )

Good, I hate Naval battles, hopefully I'll be able to travel by air to LNI...
Ftagn
28-06-2006, 03:03
10 million people is a pretty large force to be sending at someone when you're not even directly involved with the conflict. Unless you're planning on counter-invading Toopoxia or something.

Anyways, I'll be helping Toopoxia out with... a lot of troops, the number of which to be declared later.... I may be fighting on LNI's side too.
Wanderjar
28-06-2006, 03:04
Good, I hate Naval battles, hopefully I'll be able to travel by air to LNI...


LOL


Same here. I only like space navy fighting. That is fun. But ground warfare is still my personal preference.
Wanderjar
28-06-2006, 03:06
10 million people is a pretty large force to be sending at someone when you're not even directly involved with the conflict. Unless you're planning on counter-invading Toopoxia or something.

Anyways, I'll be helping Toopoxia out with... a lot of troops, the number of which to be declared later.... I may be fighting on LNI's side too.


There is an old saying that I use when fighting:

"He who comes firstest with the mostest....."

;)
Toopoxia
28-06-2006, 03:06
LOL


Same here. I only like space navy fighting. That is fun. But ground warfare is still my personal preference.

It's mostly just the fact that when it comes to hardware I'm a n00b, I'll either Godmod unintentionally or Verminmod and creat a waaay too easily beaten army, hell just take a look at my Light Tank, it's based off the design of an American WWII Tank design...
Wanderjar
28-06-2006, 03:11
It's mostly just the fact that when it comes to hardware I'm a n00b, I'll either Godmod unintentionally or Verminmod and creat a waaay too easily beaten army, hell just take a look at my Light Tank, it's based off the design of an American WWII Tank design...


Eh....thats ok. We're just here to have fun. I won't be too rough on ya :)
Leafanistan
28-06-2006, 03:11
Is it bad that I want to see under 3 Division deployments. I want to see more tactical warfare rather than large strategic thigns.
The Aeson
28-06-2006, 03:14
Is it bad that I want to see under 3 Division deployments. I want to see more tactical warfare rather than large strategic thigns.

Don't worry. I'll be using small groups of either black ops or elite special forces here.
Ftagn
28-06-2006, 03:17
Heh. I dislike naval combat simply because I know very little about the logistics and not many details on ships in general. Firing missiles at each other from miles away just isn't as cool as urban warfare, anyways.
Wanderjar
28-06-2006, 03:20
Heh. I dislike naval combat simply because I know very little about the logistics and not many details on ships in general. Firing missiles at each other from miles away just isn't as cool as urban warfare, anyways.


agreed.
Liberated New Ireland
28-06-2006, 03:41
Is it bad that I want to see under 3 Division deployments. I want to see more tactical warfare rather than large strategic thigns.
Well, considering that this is on my home territory, there are going to be large forces involved.

By the way, don't worry about naval battles, my nation is nearly landlocked. I don't have a navy, so any ships should be used for coastal bombardment or as a base of operations for fighter wings.
Toopoxia
28-06-2006, 03:43
Well, considering that this is on my home territory, there are going to be large forces involved.

By the way, don't worry about naval battles, my nation is nearly landlocked. I don't have a navy, so any ships should be used for coastal bombardment or as a base of operations for fighter wings.

We need a map of your nation, including Geographical features, Towns and Military installations, I'd also like to take a look at some of the major laws of LNI in order to see what my Spies can and cannot do...
Liberated New Ireland
28-06-2006, 03:52
We need a map of your nation, including Geographical features, Towns and Military installations, I'd also like to take a look at some of the major laws of LNI in order to see what my Spies can and cannot do...
Spies? What spies?
Liberated New Ireland
28-06-2006, 03:56
Here's a pretty good map:

http://p.vtourist.com/1219464-County_Limerick-County_Limerick.gif

EDIT: I'll have a version with military bases edited in in a second.
Toopoxia
28-06-2006, 03:56
Spies? What spies?

Oh c'mon middle of a war why wouldn't I deploy spies behind enemy lines to see what they were doing/assassinate generals/blow stuff up, but I'll ask you first before sending anyone.
Ftagn
28-06-2006, 04:24
Well, considering that this is on my home territory, there are going to be large forces involved.

By the way, don't worry about naval battles, my nation is nearly landlocked. I don't have a navy, so any ships should be used for coastal bombardment or as a base of operations for fighter wings.

Hmmm... I don't really want to land a million+ invasion force by air. That'd be a lot of planes and helicopters. And I suppose you have the waterway heavily defended?
Jaredcohenia
28-06-2006, 04:24
I thought LNI was bigger. :O
Liberated New Ireland
28-06-2006, 04:27
Hmmm... I don't really want to land a million+ invasion force by air. That'd be a lot of planes and helicopters. And I suppose you have the waterway heavily defended?
Yeah, it's well defended, but I don't have ships, so if Toopoxia brings in battleships, then I'm screwed. If you're fighting on his side, you can land troops then. If not, you should hurry up their deployment.

I thought LNI was bigger. :O
Punk
Liberated New Ireland
28-06-2006, 04:39
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h297/Aenimus/LNI.jpg


Blue dots represent bases with air force elements.
Blackhelm Confederacy
28-06-2006, 04:41
I think it can start now
Jaredcohenia
28-06-2006, 04:42
Yeah, it's well defended, but I don't have ships, so if Toopoxia brings in battleships, then I'm screwed. If you're fighting on his side, you can land troops then. If not, you should hurry up their deployment.


Punk

You're the punk, potenial will-be-helped-by-me.
Liberated New Ireland
28-06-2006, 04:43
I think it can start now
Two problems:

1) Toops isn't on

2) I'm still finishing up the little prelude thingy...
Blackhelm Confederacy
28-06-2006, 04:47
Alriteyy
Hydac
28-06-2006, 05:17
Is the war taking place on LNI soil? If so, I might open a second front with Toopoxia since I lack any real power projection capability.
Wanderjar
28-06-2006, 05:53
Yeah, it's well defended, but I don't have ships, so if Toopoxia brings in battleships, then I'm screwed. If you're fighting on his side, you can land troops then. If not, you should hurry up their deployment.


Punk


Oh don't worry. I have a huge space navy, but my MT navy is even larger.....


anyway, I got the naval support covered. My infantry will be there, and so will my Naval Aviators and Airforce.
Ftagn
28-06-2006, 06:05
You think you have a large navy? :) You haven't seen anything yet... I will do my damndest to make sure everyone comes out of this with as much damage as possible, and if it means throwing in my entire navy to get my troops to shore, then so be it!

...eeeh, I'm not supposed to be the main combatant here, so I'll mostly let Toopoxia and LNI duel, but I want to cause at least some havoc. To all sides...
Hydac
28-06-2006, 06:28
I have some revised military data on my NSWiki page.
Toopoxia
28-06-2006, 08:43
I have no Battleship(s) I couldn't find any RL examples to base a model off of, I do have 2 Aircraft Carriers which I'll most likely be using, and I'm online now but LNI is offline, oh the irony!
Hydac
28-06-2006, 09:03
Toopoxia: What are your boder defenses? Also, I assume if we go to war the DMZ between our nations will be void.
Toopoxia
28-06-2006, 12:32
Which could be an excellent backdrop for our sequel, right well in light of a possible war it'll be likely that i'd've built Bunkers spaced out across the border, possibly Turrets, and a small amount of AA and SAM sites, there may be a trench system conecting the bunkers but don't count on it.
The Aeson
28-06-2006, 13:31
Toopoxia: What are your boder defenses? Also, I assume if we go to war the DMZ between our nations will be void.

Nope. You just gotta bring the weapons around the DMZ instead of through it. The DMZ only extends thirty feet in the air, right?
Wanderjar
28-06-2006, 15:13
I have no Battleship(s) I couldn't find any RL examples to base a model off of, I do have 2 Aircraft Carriers which I'll most likely be using, and I'm online now but LNI is offline, oh the irony!


If you want a Navy, go to DMG Military Industries. Buy the Big Ass Navy Package if you can afford it. Then buy a bunch of Lord Class Heavy Battleships, nothing in the MT world can stand against them (at least thats what experiance has shown me)
Toopoxia
28-06-2006, 15:31
If you want a Navy, go to DMG Military Industries. Buy the Big Ass Navy Package if you can afford it. Then buy a bunch of Lord Class Heavy Battleships, nothing in the MT world can stand against them (at least thats what experiance has shown me)

*plots to destroy Lord Class just prove him wrong*

see I'd love to but I wouldn't know how to use it, I'm really better off underplaying, oh and I got my PMT army nearly sorted but that's unrelated and spamming.
Wanderjar
28-06-2006, 15:56
*plots to destroy Lord Class just prove him wrong*

see I'd love to but I wouldn't know how to use it, I'm really better off underplaying, oh and I got my PMT army nearly sorted but that's unrelated and spamming.



lol


It isn't invincible, but really powerful. Anyway, I prefer infantry and Armor, so thats what you'll see me focus on....
Toopoxia
28-06-2006, 16:00
lol


It isn't invincible, but really powerful. Anyway, I prefer infantry and Armor, so thats what you'll see me focus on....

Ditto man, except I excel at infantry and even then I suck, Infact I'd say my high-point is in Marksmen, aahhh Snipers, what would I do without you....
Liberated New Ireland
28-06-2006, 17:02
Ditto man, except I excel at infantry and even then I suck, Infact I'd say my high-point is in Marksmen, aahhh Snipers, what would I do without you....
Ah, hail the designated marksman doctrine.

Check TGs, Toopoxia.
Toopoxia
28-06-2006, 17:10
Check TGs, Toopoxia.

I believe this short comic is shockingly relavant

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/8784/newbtopian55qd.png

I'll send a TG back soon with an Edit, for now watch this space.
Liberated New Ireland
28-06-2006, 17:16
I believe this short comic is shockingly relavant

...

I'll send a TG back soon with an Edit, for now watch this space.
You're so mean to those Kenny-lookin' n00b guys...
Toopoxia
28-06-2006, 17:21
You're so mean to those Kenny-lookin' n00b guys...

They brought it upon themselves by violating a-billion copyright laws :P
Liberated New Ireland
28-06-2006, 18:34
Right, I'll put up the first post in a minute.
Added a header for the death of Nicolai, made a small change to the first sentence.
Liberated New Ireland
28-06-2006, 18:38
HERE IS THE IC THREAD!!! (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=489727)
Ftagn
28-06-2006, 18:50
I'm gonna wait for Toopoxia to reply before I go in.
Ftagn
28-06-2006, 18:57
Actually, I lie. I'll post anyways.
Toopoxia
28-06-2006, 18:58
Too late sucka! :P

hey LNI, I posted two Aircraft carriers being deployed already, hope you don't mind but it was the only way I considered feasable for my P2's to have made it so far to your nation.
Blackhelm Confederacy
28-06-2006, 19:02
How long does a fleet take to get from Sierra Leone to Ireland?
Toopoxia
28-06-2006, 19:05
How long does a fleet take to get from Sierra Leone to Ireland?


aaaaaahhhh.... It depends where Sierra Leone and Ireland are on the NS World, if however you're talking about the RL world then I'd have no idea as I have never travelled out of this crappy country.
RFF
28-06-2006, 19:06
Is it too late to get in on this, on the side of Toopoxia?
Liberated New Ireland
28-06-2006, 19:10
aaaaaahhhh.... It depends where Sierra Leone and Ireland are on the NS World, if however you're talking about the RL world then I'd have no idea as I have never travelled out of this crappy country.
Did you just call Ireland crappy? :upyours:
That's the first smiley I've used in awhile...


And the carrier position is fine.
Toopoxia
28-06-2006, 19:18
Did you just call Ireland crappy? :upyours:
That's the first smiley I've used in awhile...


And the carrier position is fine.

no I called England crappy.
Liberated New Ireland
28-06-2006, 19:20
no I called England crappy.
Oh. Well, that's very true.
smiley retracted
Toopoxia
28-06-2006, 19:22
LNI, is RFF in? I need assistance, and also I need the locations of SAMS I may have discovered in my recon/attack mission.
Liberated New Ireland
28-06-2006, 19:29
LNI, is RFF in? I need assistance, and also I need the locations of SAMS I may have discovered in my recon/attack mission.
RFF is in...
As for SAMS, most are concentrated near bases and towns, but there are some scattered throughout the countryside. I'd say you spotted a pair of launchers twelve miles east of Foynes Air Base, which is where Black Flight is posted.
Liberated New Ireland
28-06-2006, 19:53
Admiral Firehorn reviewed thew coordinates of both the base, and the SAM sites. He ordered two ships on each site. Soon afterwards, six tomahawk missiles screamed towards the airbase, while another six were fired at the SAM's.
You know, you COULD give me time to put up my first post...
Toopoxia
28-06-2006, 19:56
You know, you COULD give me time to put up my first post...

it's Blitzkreig baby!

:lol:

yeah BC wait for a sec whilst we see what he's doing...
Liberated New Ireland
28-06-2006, 20:12
Admiral Firehorn reviewed thew coordinates of both the base, and the SAM sites. He ordered two ships on each site. Soon afterwards, six tomahawk missiles screamed towards the airbase, while another six were fired at the SAM's.

BTW, this IS a two-line post.
Bloodbank
28-06-2006, 20:19
I'm joining up with The Irish if that no one minds
Liberated New Ireland
28-06-2006, 20:21
I'm joining up with The Irish if that no one minds
You're going to have to talk to Toopoxia.
Hydac
28-06-2006, 20:22
LNI: Could you respond to my offer of assistance so I can make another post.
Bloodbank
28-06-2006, 20:22
nevermind
Liberated New Ireland
28-06-2006, 21:27
RFF, you're godmoding.
No telepathy, and no stasis cells.
Ftagn
28-06-2006, 22:08
This is MT. I wouldn't necessarily call stasis cells and telepathy god-moding, at least yet, but it's not really appropriate for the period.
Jaredcohenia
28-06-2006, 22:13
LNI...how do you want me to do this? >>
The Aeson
28-06-2006, 22:19
LNI, I'd like to have the Shadowmen approach whoever's in charge there to offer their services. Could you have him in a limo or something, so he can be approached?
Liberated New Ireland
28-06-2006, 22:24
LNI, I'd like to have the Shadowmen approach whoever's in charge there to offer their services. Could you have him in a limo or something, so he can be approached?
Limo?
General Sean O'Connor would be in an APC or Humvee. But you can handle the start of the conversation: just have a shadowman walk up to the command APC, in Limerick city, enter it, and say what you have to say.
Liberated New Ireland
28-06-2006, 22:29
LNI...how do you want me to do this? >>
...Do what???
If you're my ally and have a fleet, you can start a naval battle with Toopoxia and Blackhelm.
If you're my enemy, you can just join them.
Hydac
28-06-2006, 22:53
I'm out for now, but I'll try to get back on later tonight.
RFF
28-06-2006, 22:58
Telepathy and stasis cells are godmodding? How so exactly?
Liberated New Ireland
28-06-2006, 22:58
Telepathy and stasis cells are godmodding? How so exactly?
Because we're MT, not FT.
RFF
28-06-2006, 23:03
There was no indication of this. My nation is PMT. Telepathy is the only way for my troops to communicate, because their vocal chords have been removed.
The Aeson
28-06-2006, 23:04
There was no indication of this. My nation is PMT. Telepathy is the only way for my troops to communicate, because their vocal chords have been removed.

Well why would you go and do something silly like that?
Toopoxia
28-06-2006, 23:06
Still this is MT not PMT, if it were PMT I'd be using my Cyborgs.
The Aeson
28-06-2006, 23:08
And I would be using some post human Shadowmen. Little stuff, like cybernetically implanted IR and titanium laced bones, not full blown cyborgs, but still...
RFF
28-06-2006, 23:12
All right then, my troops will just be humans. Sorry for the confusion. Also, the removal of the vocal chords is for propaganda reasons.
Liberated New Ireland
28-06-2006, 23:18
And I would be using some post human Shadowmen. Little stuff, like cybernetically implanted IR and titanium laced bones, not full blown cyborgs, but still...
...I say, if it's possible today with enough funding, go for it...
The Aeson
28-06-2006, 23:19
...I say, if it's possible today with enough funding, go for it...

Yeah, but it would be more difficult today, and I don't have that much funding for this type of research. Enough to do it in PMT, yes. Perhaps if this war lasts for a while.
Liberated New Ireland
28-06-2006, 23:22
Yeah, but it would be more difficult today, and I don't have that much funding for this type of research. Enough to do it in PMT, yes. Perhaps if this war lasts for a while.
Hmm.
If you bring in the Shadowmen, Toops can bring in his cyborgs.
Deal?
Toopoxia
28-06-2006, 23:24
Hmm.
If you bring in the Shadowmen, Toops can bring in his cyborgs.
Deal?

Well hang on now, My Cyborgs are in the MT world just a dream, I'd need to first construct them and then train them and then deploy them, all of this would take at least 20 years...
The Aeson
28-06-2006, 23:29
Well hang on now, My Cyborgs are in the MT world just a dream, I'd need to first construct them and then train them and then deploy them, all of this would take at least 20 years...

Well I could bring in the Phase Three Shadowmen. Things I'm considering from then are accelerated healing factor (nothing like Wolverine's, don't worry. But they'd be ready to fight again after being wounded must faster than a normal man) organ redunancy, and possibly a decentralized nervous system.
Liberated New Ireland
28-06-2006, 23:32
Well hang on now, My Cyborgs are in the MT world just a dream, I'd need to first construct them and then train them and then deploy them, all of this would take at least 20 years...
Yeah, I do generally RP a 3rd World Nation a few decades into the future. (If you don't remember the Kraven War, I was fighting Capitol Police with Soviet Bloc weaponry). So, that's fine. Do you have any details on them?
RFF
28-06-2006, 23:35
Can I use my Quietmen then? The only thing superior to them is telepathy via neuro-implant and undieing loyalty to the Empire.
Hydac
28-06-2006, 23:41
Can I use my Quietmen then? The only thing superior to them is telepathy via neuro-implant and undieing loyalty to the Empire.

I'm back.

What if you make the so the signal can be jammed or disrupted and thus forcing them to fall back on written signals and sign language.
Hydac
28-06-2006, 23:44
LNI. what's your reponse to my IC offer of assistance?
RFF
28-06-2006, 23:44
Aye, that would be fine.

Toopoxia, check your TGs.
Ftagn
28-06-2006, 23:44
Huh. I'm already using ETC guns, so I don't feel the need to have cyborg special forces like my PMT army, but if everyone else is doing it...
Liberated New Ireland
28-06-2006, 23:48
Huh. I'm already using EMT guns, so I don't feel the need to have cyborg special forces like my PMT army, but if everyone else is doing it...
Great, so I have the only regular army in the RP...

@Hydac: I didn't see your offer, but all help is welcome. I thought you were just going to start another front at Toopoxia.
Toopoxia
28-06-2006, 23:51
teehee, Irish vs Cyborgs =P

I'll be using normal soldiers I want the introduction of Cyborgs to be a mythodical push into a new era.
Hydac
28-06-2006, 23:51
Great, so I have the only regular army in the RP...

@Hydac: I didn't see your offer, but all help is welcome. I thought you were just going to start another front at Toopoxia.

My army is completely ordinary, albeit primarily geared to desert and urban combat. Think the IDF.

I'll proably use this thread to launch a spin off war with Toopoxia or something later, but I was offering something along the lines of weapon sales.
Liberated New Ireland
28-06-2006, 23:52
Toops, what's going to be the end result of the air battle?
Ftagn
28-06-2006, 23:57
Great, so I have the only regular army in the RP...

@Hydac: I didn't see your offer, but all help is welcome. I thought you were just going to start another front at Toopoxia.

ETC guns are just longer range and more powerful than normal cannons, that's all. They're mounted on my battleships, to make them worth using, and on tanks and such. A similar technology is used in my legionnaries' caseless assault rifles... but it's not so much as to be godmodish-ly powerful.
Hydac
28-06-2006, 23:58
I'm using the RP to introduce Hydac Military Industries (HMI) if no one minds. I'll proably start on a storefront in a few days.
The Aeson
29-06-2006, 00:02
Yeah, I do generally RP a 3rd World Nation a few decades into the future. (If you don't remember the Kraven War, I was fighting Capitol Police with Soviet Bloc weaponry). So, that's fine. Do you have any details on them?

I seem to recall they got slaughtered.
Toopoxia
29-06-2006, 00:07
Toops, what's going to be the end result of the air battle?

Well I was hoping for you to call off the attack so I can move in to clear your navy and initiate a naval blockade.
Liberated New Ireland
29-06-2006, 00:19
Well I was hoping for you to call off the attack so I can move in to clear your navy and initiate a naval blockade.
Whatever will I do when my one external trade source blockades me?! OH NOES!!! And you're going to destroy/capture my non-existent navy?! PARQUEZ?!?!?!?! :p

I seem to recall they got slaughtered.
Yeah, that's true. But they didn't really, 'cause of Pyth...
Anyways, we're better equipped now.
The Aeson
29-06-2006, 00:23
So no Phase Three Shadowmen? How about Phase Two? Titanium laced bones, IR imaging, possibly a weapon implanted in the forearm of some of them, marginally accelerated healing factor.
Wanderjar
29-06-2006, 00:30
So no Phase Three Shadowmen? How about Phase Two? Titanium laced bones, IR imaging, possibly a weapon implanted in the forearm of some of them, marginally accelerated healing factor.


Only if I can use FFW (Future Force Warrior) and IWS (Integrated Warfighter System)
The Aeson
29-06-2006, 00:32
Only if I can use FFW (Future Force Warrior) and IWS (Integrated Warfighter System)

Well, we're on the same side, so I won't complain. But is FFW FT?
Toopoxia
29-06-2006, 00:33
Whatever will I do when my one external trade source blockades me?! OH NOES!!! And you're going to destroy/capture my non-existent navy?! PARQUEZ?!?!?!?! :p

I don't speak French =P

Right well I intend to blockade you in order to give me time to make my next move, my allies to organise and for me to close off landings in your nation, I see it as tactical, plus I'll be able to bombard your coastal towns, wasn't your Capitol on the Coast, that seems like a nice place to start :P
Wanderjar
29-06-2006, 00:34
Well, we're on the same side, so I won't complain. But is FFW FT?

Nope. Modern Tech. It exists today, it just won't be mass produced till 2013.
The Aeson
29-06-2006, 00:35
Nope. Modern Tech. It exists today, it just won't be mass produced till 2013.

Ah. The name threw me. I'd check with Toop and LNI.
Liberated New Ireland
29-06-2006, 00:42
I don't speak French =P

Right well I intend to blockade you in order to give me time to make my next move, my allies to organise and for me to close off landings in your nation, I see it as tactical, plus I'll be able to bombard your coastal towns, wasn't your Capitol on the Coast, that seems like a nice place to start :P
The coasts of my cities, especially Limerick, are heavily defended with 200mm batteries and Harpoon launchers. Not to mention my strike fighters, which I'm bugmoding at the moment, but F-22s would victimize your ships in RL.

Have fun trying to kill my civies, punk.

OH, PS, are you planning on having an Omaha-style landing?
PPS, parquez is spanish for "why". Porquois is the french equivalent.
Liberated New Ireland
29-06-2006, 00:43
Only if I can use FFW (Future Force Warrior) and IWS (Integrated Warfighter System)
Could you define these things?
Toopoxia
29-06-2006, 00:46
The coasts of my cities, especially Limerick, are heavily defended with 200mm batteries and Harpoon launchers. Not to mention my strike fighters, which I'm bugmoding at the moment, but F-22s would victimize your ships in RL.

Have fun trying to kill my civies, punk.

OH, PS, are you planning on having an Omaha-style landing?
PPS, parquez is spanish for "why". Porquois is the french equivalent.

No, I was planning on bombing the crap out of one of your ports then coming in with PAAT's to create a beach-head, what about that town to the West, is that very well defended?
Ftagn
29-06-2006, 00:53
The coasts of my cities, especially Limerick, are heavily defended with 200mm batteries and Harpoon launchers. Not to mention my strike fighters, which I'm bugmoding at the moment, but F-22s would victimize your ships in RL.

Have fun trying to kill my civies, punk.

OH, PS, are you planning on having an Omaha-style landing?
PPS, parquez is spanish for "why". Porquois is the french equivalent.

Actually, it's "por que".

By the time I make a landing, everything close enough to attack... will probably be dead. Stationary batteries make such wonderful targets for the 480mm guns, not to mention the fighters.

Oh yeah, and while nothing I use comes from the real world, they mostly have equivalents. You can consider the fighters I use to be F-22s and the bombers to be more like F-35s.

EDIT: Now that I think about it, I'd have to kill the whole town and all your troops to insure a safe landing, and I don't want to expend that much ammo. I'll just have to settle for taking out the coastal batteries.
Liberated New Ireland
29-06-2006, 00:56
No, I was planning on bombing the crap out of one of your ports then coming in with PAAT's to create a beach-head, what about that town to the West, is that very well defended?
Technically, it's bombing the crap out of YOUR ports.
Anyway, ALL my towns are fairly well defended, each has at least 100,000 peasant soldiers.
While I'd prefer having the landing at Foynes, for storytelling purposes, but Pallaskenry is the weakest of the coastal towns.
Ftagn
29-06-2006, 00:58
You're in luck then, I just randomly chose Foynes to attack.
Toopoxia
29-06-2006, 01:02
Dang, I picked Gilin due to it's proximity to a major road, if you (Ftagn) take Foynes then we'll have the first two in the major coastal road network =)
Liberated New Ireland
29-06-2006, 01:02
You're in luck then, I just randomly chose Foynes to attack.
Ah. Out of curiosity, did any of your ships take damage from my Harpoons? It's not like they're weak (.5 kT payload...)
Ftagn
29-06-2006, 01:03
Ah. Out of curiosity, did any of your ships take damage from my Harpoons? It's not like they're weak (.5 kT payload...)

Yes, but I haven't RPed it yet.

I'll be back later, I'm gonna be busy for a while.
Toopoxia
29-06-2006, 01:07
100,000 peasant soldiers.

it aint gonna matter how many Peasant Forces you have when they've all been blasted into tuna chunks by my Naval Cannons.
Liberated New Ireland
29-06-2006, 01:09
it aint gonna matter how many Peasant Forces you have when they've all been blasted into tuna chunks by my Naval Cannons.
So basically, your plan is to hammer my coastal cities until I don't have soldiers there? That's pretty lame.
Toopoxia
29-06-2006, 01:14
So basically, your plan is to hammer my coastal cities until I don't have soldiers there? That's pretty lame.

No, think about the RPing, hundreds of thousands of innocent lives lost all of them dead or dying, think the London Blitz man, I'm trying to RP evil as possible and I thought, hey what's more evil than taking all the Irish people have worked so hard for away from them, it'd be heartbreaking to have suddenly lost all that and of course the Children whos parents won't be coming back anymore will be most affected, and oila, instant kikass RPing dude.
Liberated New Ireland
29-06-2006, 01:26
No, think about the RPing, hundreds of thousands of innocent lives lost all of them dead or dying, think the London Blitz man, I'm trying to RP evil as possible and I thought, hey what's more evil than taking all the Irish people have worked so hard for away from them, it'd be heartbreaking to have suddenly lost all that and of course the Children whos parents won't be coming back anymore will be most affected, and oila, instant kikass RPing dude.
Yeah, great, except it's me doing all the RPing, all you have to do is say "I fire guns," then I have to do a post about the suffering and how they're still resisting, then you just say "I fire guns again". Etc, etc, ad infinitum.
Toopoxia
29-06-2006, 01:34
Yeah, great, except it's me doing all the RPing, all you have to do is say "I fire guns," then I have to do a post about the suffering and how they're still resisting, then you just say "I fire guns again". Etc, etc, ad infinitum.

I have no response to this, except tactics, true it is a game and the overall goal should not be to win, but consider this, A tactitian looks at a battlefield he has two choices, the first is to take a low casualty route leading to a quick decisive victory, the second is a long and ardeous road with great torment and difficulty, now consider that the tactitian has no concept of IC or RPing, which choice do you reckon an RL tactition would take?

Unfortunantly it is difficult for me to express suffering within my soldiers ATM being as they've not yet faced a real trial, nor are they the ones who are being invaded, right now I can do two things to remedie the situation, 1 is to Edit my post to attack Foynes, 2 is to continue my current line of posting and hope I can keep the peace between us cos OOCly we've not yet had a huge rifting argument and I don't fancy starting any time soon.
RFF
29-06-2006, 01:39
I say we bombard the city untill we can make a safe landing, then go in with a mass of troops and completely slaughter every living being in the city.
Wanderjar
29-06-2006, 01:48
Could you define these things?


IWS is a system designed to enhance the ability of a soldier to fight. Basically, there is a helmet, which has a computer inside of it, and a small clear window placed over the right eye, which allows the soldier an indepth real time map of his area, real time waypoints designated by his officers, accesible briefings, and the ability to send exact coordinates for air and artillery support. In addition, it also includes a uniform made of spider silk. It is stronger the Titanium, yet lighter than a feather. It will stop a 7.62 mm round at close range. Also, the helmet has the ability to use IR to "see" though walls, and Identify the location of enemies through buildings, etc.


FFW is the same thing, except for special forces. It has one difference. It is a full body suit with a specialized uniform which changes itself to match the enviornment it is in. If I move from a desert into a jungle, it will automatically switch. Go to yahoo.com, and under images, type in FFW. And yes, they have this today.
The Aeson
29-06-2006, 01:52
I say we bombard the city untill we can make a safe landing, then go in with a mass of troops and completely slaughter every living being in the city.

That could be difficult as there's probably going to be at least one Shadowman there. Now, I realize that at least one man does sound all that intimidating, but he'll also be doing his best to rally the citizens.

In addition, things will probably get more exciting once Toopoxia gets further inland.

Since I still don't have a response, which Phase of Shadowmen should I be using? Please note, each Phase has everything that the phases above it have.

Phase one: No engineering, just very highly trained and equipped.

Phase two: Slightly accelerated healing, titanium laced bones, IR imaging implants, some degree of weaponry implanted.

Phase three: Further accelerated healing, further weaponry implanted, vital organ redunancy, decentralized nervous system.
RFF
29-06-2006, 01:56
I'd say Phase One, but you'd have to check with Toopoxia and LNI. What ARE Shadowmen exactly?
The Aeson
29-06-2006, 01:59
I'd say Phase One, but you'd have to check with Toopoxia and LNI. What ARE Shadowmen exactly?

Shadowmen are my elite special forces. They're experts in everything from guerilla fighting to counter insurgency to assassinations to standard warfare to interrogation techniques. A lot of those specializing in interrogation hail from the south west. The pointed teeth seem to help for some reason.

No, they're not living shadows or anything Fantasy Tech like that.
Liberated New Ireland
29-06-2006, 01:59
I have no response to this, except tactics, true it is a game and the overall goal should not be to win, but consider this, A tactitian looks at a battlefield he has two choices, the first is to take a low casualty route leading to a quick decisive victory, the second is a long and ardeous road with great torment and difficulty, now consider that the tactitian has no concept of IC or RPing, which choice do you reckon an RL tactition would take?

Unfortunantly it is difficult for me to express suffering within my soldiers ATM being as they've not yet faced a real trial, nor are they the ones who are being invaded, right now I can do two things to remedie the situation, 1 is to Edit my post to attack Foynes, 2 is to continue my current line of posting and hope I can keep the peace between us cos OOCly we've not yet had a huge rifting argument and I don't fancy starting any time soon.

All I can really say is:
This isn't RL, and this isn't going to lead to a quick decisive victory for you, since I'll be sinking your ships with Harpoons, and I could just pull my troops and fighters away from the coastline, out of the range of your guns.
If that's what I have to do to get you into a ground engagement, that's what I'll do.
Wanderjar
29-06-2006, 02:02
All I can really say is:
This isn't RL, and this isn't going to lead to a quick decisive victory for you, since I'll be sinking your ships with Harpoons, and I could just pull my troops and fighters away from the coastline, out of the range of your guns.
If that's what I have to do to get you into a ground engagement, that's what I'll do.


Besides, i'm pulling my fleet up, and i'll just be pounding you with tomahawks and BVR missles from my fighters.
Liberated New Ireland
29-06-2006, 02:02
I say we bombard the city untill we can make a safe landing, then go in with a mass of troops and completely slaughter every living being in the city.
I'm on the verge of ignoring you, because you write poorly, and you're annoying.
Wanderjar
29-06-2006, 02:02
I'm on the verge of ignoring you, because you write poorly, and you're annoying.

harsh.....
Liberated New Ireland
29-06-2006, 02:02
That could be difficult as there's probably going to be at least one Shadowman there. Now, I realize that at least one man does sound all that intimidating, but he'll also be doing his best to rally the citizens.

In addition, things will probably get more exciting once Toopoxia gets further inland.

Since I still don't have a response, which Phase of Shadowmen should I be using? Please note, each Phase has everything that the phases above it have.

Phase one: No engineering, just very highly trained and equipped.

Phase two: Slightly accelerated healing, titanium laced bones, IR imaging implants, some degree of weaponry implanted.

Phase three: Further accelerated healing, further weaponry implanted, vital organ redunancy, decentralized nervous system.
I didn't realise you needed a response, but you should use Phase One.
Toopoxia
29-06-2006, 02:04
All I can really say is:
This isn't RL, and this isn't going to lead to a quick decisive victory for you, since I'll be sinking your ships with Harpoons, and I could just pull my troops and fighters away from the coastline, out of the range of your guns.
If that's what I have to do to get you into a ground engagement, that's what I'll do.

I'm oki with a ground engagement, I'll post up my losses now, from both the late night Dogfight and this attack.
Liberated New Ireland
29-06-2006, 02:05
harsh.....
Yeah.
Sorry, guys, but I'm a little pissed that EVERYONE is standing back and just hitting my coasts with cruise missiles and naval guns.
RFF
29-06-2006, 02:10
I write poorly and am annoying? How so? Care to give some examples, esteemed god of NationStates?
Jaredcohenia
29-06-2006, 02:14
Accepting bribes.

Anyways, who has an active fleet near LNI?
Wanderjar
29-06-2006, 02:14
I write poorly and am annoying? How so? Care to give some examples, esteemed god of NationStates?


He apologized, drop it. Lets just have fun ok?
Liberated New Ireland
29-06-2006, 02:32
I write poorly and am annoying? How so? Care to give some examples, esteemed god of NationStates?
Every single post you've made could be used as an example of either.

You can consider yourself ignored.
The Aeson
29-06-2006, 02:36
His writing's not that bad...
RFF
29-06-2006, 02:37
That is your opinion, and I will return the favor. Have fun everyone.
Toopoxia
29-06-2006, 02:37
Accepting bribes.

Anyways, who has an active fleet near LNI?

Me, Ftagn, Blackhelm Confederacy and until a few minutes ago RFF.
Demenz
29-06-2006, 02:48
I've been trolling this thread for a few minutes now, and am considering aiding with the rp. I personally think that RFF has played it's part very well. Anyways, before I continue to ramble, I am considering to join this little skirmish. Give me a reason to, and Ill go with the greater good.
Toopoxia
29-06-2006, 02:50
I've been trolling this thread for a few minutes now, and am considering aiding with the rp. I personally think that RFF has played it's part very well. Anyways, before I continue to ramble, I am considering to join this little skirmish. Give me a reason to, and Ill go with the greater good.

oh well in which case you'd be better off joining LNI's side, he could use some help right now.
Liberated New Ireland
29-06-2006, 02:56
I've been trolling this thread for a few minutes now, and am considering aiding with the rp. I personally think that RFF has played it's part very well. Anyways, before I continue to ramble, I am considering to join this little skirmish. Give me a reason to, and Ill go with the greater good.
Yeah, go ahead, if it's alright with Toopoxia.

Goddammit, I apologize to almost everyone for being an dick for the past few hours, but I've been having a really bad night in RL, for many reasons...

So... yeah. Sorry, folks.
Toopoxia
29-06-2006, 02:59
Yeah, go ahead, if it's alright with Toopoxia.

Goddammit, I apologize to almost everyone for being an dick for the past few hours, but I've been having a really bad night in RL, for many reasons...

So... yeah. Sorry, folks.

/me gives LNI a reassuring hug.

I'm going to sleep soon for it is almost 3 in the morning in England, but rest assured I'll be online tommorow and hopefully we'll all have tea!
Wanderjar
29-06-2006, 02:59
Yeah, go ahead, if it's alright with Toopoxia.

Goddammit, I apologize to almost everyone for being an dick for the past few hours, but I've been having a really bad night in RL, for many reasons...

So... yeah. Sorry, folks.


Eh, you're still cool with me. :D


Edit: Do we need another fluffle war?


"It don't mean nothin'......not a thing." --- Hamburger Hill
Liberated New Ireland
29-06-2006, 03:05
Eh, you're still cool with me. :D


Edit: Do we need another fluffle war?


"It don't mean nothin'......not a thing." --- Hamburger Hill
A fluffle war is not needed. Ick.
Wanderjar
29-06-2006, 03:08
A fluffle war is not needed. Ick.


Ok, but if you're ever in need of cheering up, remember our last fluffle war!

Ok Wanderjar, that was enough fluffles to last a lifetime....
The Longinean Order
29-06-2006, 03:16
Is there still room for me to send in about 10 Longinean Knights

Equiped with
-Motorcycles (Harley Davidsons)
-Spider Silk Armor (three layers)
-Electro-Lances (electrified titanium lances)
-Electro Blades (longsword version of the Electro-Lance)
-H&K MP5's
Demenz
29-06-2006, 03:25
RFF has informed me that he wants back in this rp. So, is it a go, or a no?
Ftagn
29-06-2006, 03:38
Sure.

I'm not planning to annihilate your defenses completely before I land, just the harpoon and artillery emplacements. Part of the character of my nation is charging in with hordes of troopies and slaughtering civilians.
The Longinean Order
29-06-2006, 03:46
Sure.

I'm not planning to annihilate your defenses completely before I land, just the harpoon and artillery emplacements. Part of the character of my nation is charging in with hordes of troopies and slaughtering civilians.

Okay, now I need to rethink my troop size, gotta protect the civilians

Any objections to 100?
Blackhelm Confederacy
29-06-2006, 04:04
I def missed so much
Ftagn
29-06-2006, 05:04
Okay, now I need to rethink my troop size, gotta protect the civilians

Any objections to 100?

Not really.
They will die SO fast, it's not even funny.
The Longinean Order
29-06-2006, 05:11
Not really.
They will die SO fast, it's not even funny.

Ever heard of the Knights Templar, these guys make them look like wusses
Ftagn
29-06-2006, 05:18
Ever heard of the Knights Templar, these guys make them look like wusses

Oh noes. Knights in the modern age! How will my tanks cope with such dangerous weapons as the LANCE?

100 isn't enough to accomplish anything.
Blackhelm Confederacy
29-06-2006, 05:27
Oh noes. Knights in the modern age! How will my tanks cope with such dangerous weapons as the LANCE?

100 isn't enough to accomplish anything.

hahhahaha i found that funny for some reason haha
Hydac
29-06-2006, 06:14
Ever heard of the Knights Templar, these guys make them look like wusses

They'll be badasses up right up until I hit them with a tank round.
Wanderjar
29-06-2006, 06:48
Sure.

I'm not planning to annihilate your defenses completely before I land, just the harpoon and artillery emplacements. Part of the character of my nation is charging in with hordes of troopies and slaughtering civilians.

You're going to need to get through me to do that first ;)
Ftagn
29-06-2006, 07:09
You're going to need to get through me to do that first ;)

Ok.

:D
Toopoxia
29-06-2006, 20:52
Hey LNI are the defences around Gilin(sp?) destroyed yet?

Oh and do you want me to RP some more casualties?
Liberated New Ireland
29-06-2006, 20:54
Hey LNI are the defences around Gilin(sp?) destroyed yet?

Oh and do you want me to RP some more casualties?
No, you took enough casualties. The coastal batteries and Harpoon launchers have been decimated.
Toopoxia
29-06-2006, 20:55
Nice, k, I'm gonna post the landings now...
Liberated New Ireland
29-06-2006, 20:57
Nice, k, I'm gonna post the landings now...
Oh, wait, lemme post about the situation of the troops inside the city.
Liberated New Ireland
29-06-2006, 21:07
Posted. YAAR!
The Aeson
29-06-2006, 21:08
Also posted! Arrgh, matey!
RFF
29-06-2006, 21:15
So, can I get back in on this?
Liberated New Ireland
29-06-2006, 21:16
So, can I get back in on this?
Yeah, if you want.
Ftagn
29-06-2006, 21:22
Posted, is it still night?
RFF
29-06-2006, 21:23
Thanks. No hard feelings, eh?
Liberated New Ireland
29-06-2006, 21:23
Posted, is it still night?
I've been RPing like it's morning, after we got hammered by naval guns all night...
Liberated New Ireland
29-06-2006, 21:24
Thanks. No hard feelings, eh?
Right, sorry 'bout that. I was having a bad day.
Liberated New Ireland
29-06-2006, 21:51
RFF, where'd you land at?
Jaredcohenia
29-06-2006, 21:58
Posted, is it still night?

Just so you know I might be attacking that dreadnaught of yours. :P You've been warned.
RFF
29-06-2006, 21:59
I'm in the process of landing on the Gilin beach.
Toopoxia
29-06-2006, 22:11
Hey LNI, I RP'd your soldiers shooting down a PAAT, hope you don't mind.
Ftagn
29-06-2006, 22:17
Just so you know I might be attacking that dreadnaught of yours. :P You've been warned.

uhh... I think I mentioned in my last post the destroyer screen. Sneaking under a massive fleet equipped with sub hunting technology is very difficult indeed..

And there's more than one dreadnought. 2 exactly. Notice that I typed "dreadnoughts' " instead of "dreadnought's "

When I say dreadnought, I mean it's just a little bigger than a normal battleship of mine, not one of them gigantic super dreadnoughts that some people use.
Liberated New Ireland
29-06-2006, 22:24
Hey LNI, I RP'd your soldiers shooting down a PAAT, hope you don't mind.
No problem. There's a firefight going on now...

Oh, and, RFF, I've got a battalion headed your way...
Jaredcohenia
29-06-2006, 22:24
Your use of apostrophes angers the Ctarl Ctarl Empire! >>

I must've read wrong. Didn't read you had a FLEET there.

*runs away*
Ftagn
29-06-2006, 22:25
Your use of apostrophes angers the Ctarl Ctarl Empire! >>

I must've read wrong. Didn't read you had a FLEET there.

*runs away*

The fleet was introduced on the page before you posted, I believe. Depending on your torpedos' range, you could get into range of the screen, but you may be in danger of being ASROC'd to death.
Liberated New Ireland
29-06-2006, 22:27
Your use of apostrophes angers the Ctarl Ctarl Empire! >>
Hehe, I miss that show.
Ftagn
29-06-2006, 22:32
Hehe, I miss that show.

I saw around... 1 episode at a friend's house, as I have bad reception and only get Canadian channels that don't show anime. [/self pity]
Liberated New Ireland
29-06-2006, 22:38
I saw around... 1 episode at a friend's house, as I have bad reception and only get Canadian channels that don't show anime.
It was a good show. Cartoon Network used to have it, till they turned to crap.

Honestly, the only good American/cable channel is Spike TV, 'cause they show Ultimate Fighting.
Ftagn
29-06-2006, 22:51
Made a short post. Hurrah for Omaha beach-style landings!
Liberated New Ireland
29-06-2006, 22:58
Made a short post. Hurrah for Omaha beach-style landings!
Hurray for Omaha-style beach defenses! Except, with more machineguns, rocket launchers, and better tactics!