Age of Imperialism IC Thread (closed) [Archive]

Jihadin

22-03-2006, 22:24

In Brazil
Hermes Rodrigues da Fonseca played around with a glass of wine for a while.

"Sir!" A man entered holding a report in his hands.

Hermes extended his hand and quickly read the report befor in a fit of anger grabbing it and throwing it onto the ground.

"Damn this!!" Hermes sat back angerly. Enviromentalists had once again tied themselves on trees... in the Brazilian rain forest. Hermes slowly envoked the most basic calming method known to man.

"1...2...3...4...5..6..7...8..9...10" Hermes took a deep breathe.

"I will not allow Brazil to fade into blank pages in history.." Hermes rose up.

"Brazil will be reborn...we will seek out friends with the intention of helping those who wish to help us."

"It'll probably take a lot of work...and a good deal of outside help though"

"Sir..are you sure what country would pay attention to us?"

Hermes smiled softly "Brazil has potential...we have an abundant amount of resources and a large working class...people who can see potential and are willing to have a friend, will come..."

(Basic overview)
At the turn of the century, Brazil is undergoing massive reforms. It is building railroads across the country, however is undergoing protests against the rapid destruction of the rainforest although several areas have been set up as nature preserves. Hermes has taken office a few years ago and is continuing a industrailization process while obtaining science, books, and technology from other countries, in any way possible even in some cases using black market networks, although they no longer use it after certain countries came close to exposing them. Brazil also has been looking for new allies which remains a important part of Brazil's current policies.

Elite Battle Hordes

22-03-2006, 23:30

Kaiser Wilelm sat in Grand Admiral Tirpitz' office, smoking his cigar. He didn't look at Tirpitz, who sat right in front of him, and said "Damn! Bismarck was right. What is the point in having the second most powerful fleet in the world if we have to go up against the British."

"In another ten years our fleet will surpass theirs," Tirpitz replied.

The Kaiser stared directly into Moltke's eyes, saying "And if, God forbid it happens at all, war breaks out before then?"

Tirpitz remained silent.

The Kaiser then made one of the impulsive decisions he was known for, "That's it, we are discontinuing production of all surface ships, send a letter to the British, we must try to improve diplomatic relations."

Tirpitz was stunned, "You can't do that your majesty, I and Germany have worked so hard to make us the greatest. Please don't quit now."

"My mind is made up, Admiral, I never wanted to be anything but allies with Britain, and if I can't be allies I at least won't be enemies."

Franberry

22-03-2006, 23:42

(OOC thread at: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=474196)
"1910, Es el año del Centenario" said president José Figueroa Alcorta
"100 years of freedom from the Spaniards" his aide exclaimed
"Argentina has improved massivly over these years, has it not?"
"Indeed sir, we've expanded to the south, we are the most powerful country in Latin America, and we are among the ten richest countries in the world."
"Yes, unfortunately, we are still underestimated in Europe"
"A shame, it must be because we have not partaken in this rush for colonies"
"Until now, the elections aproach"
"October is nearing every day"
"Yes, but we must expand our power over the region, I shall bring new glory to the country, and to keep the party in power. It does not matter that my time as president will be over, the well being of hte country depends on our continued control"
"I'm sure we will win"
"I hope so"
*pause*
"Oh, and send telegrams to all the major europan powers, offer trade agreements and the like"
"yes sir"

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Telegram to Brazil:

To: The President of Brazil, Hermes Rodrigues da Fonseca
Topic: Alliance

Text:
My Brazilian friend, what do you say to an alliance? Both of our countries have become very powerful, yet we are ignored in European politics. BY forming an alliance, we will strengthen each other, improved trade and political relations shall allow us to grow even further.

To Everlasting Friendship Between Our Countries!
Signed,

José Figueroa Alcorta,
Presidenté de la Nación

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Koryan

23-03-2006, 01:49

Across Italy the people demanded the government take back Italia Irredenta (Unredeemed Italy). Trentino, Trieste, Dalmatia, Istria, South Tyrol, Gorizia, Ticino, Nice, Corsica, Malta - all demands by the people. Reasons varied - although most sited that many of the unredeemed lands spoke Italian or used it as their official language. Most of the anger was focused towards Austria, who held the areas of fiercest resistance.

The Italian government has announced that Austria-Hungary must return Trentino, Triesta, Istria, South Tyrol, and Gorizia. Many believe that Italy may go so far as to invade Austria for the territory.

Franberry

23-03-2006, 02:16

OOC: just so you know, Argentina sent telgrams to the following nations: England, France, Italy, Germany, Russia, Austria-Hungary, Spain (if they're being RP'd), and Japan. I did not want to make 8 telegrams, so they're all more or less like this

To: (OOC: see avobe)

Text:
Argentina wishes to send the warmest greeting of Friendship to your nation. We wish to establish so sort of trade deal, that is beneficiary to both our countries.

To Everlasting Friendship Between Our Countries!
Signed,

José Figueroa Alcorta,
Presidenté de la Nación

Naktan

23-03-2006, 02:59

The United States continues to maintain its authority of the security of the American World Order, as is evidenced by our support operations in various Latin American countries. Recent actions have led to a defense of interests in Nicaragua.

Elite Battle Hordes

23-03-2006, 05:07

Germany likes Argentina's offer, and suggests that Argentina and German sign a free trade agreement.

Germany also calls for a peace summit between itself, Italy, and Austria-Hungary. The dispute over Trentino, Triesta, Istria, South Tyrol, and Gorizia must be solved.

Warta Endor

23-03-2006, 15:28

Ooc. This is an introduction to my part of the RP. In here I’ll announce my planes, but they remain SIC (Secret In Character) for now. Once building of stuff will start you guys will probably know something is going on. :D

The dawn of a new decade.

The new year had begun and now the senior officers, a few members of the Diet (Japanese Parliament) and government officials had gathered for the Emperors new years banquet. While they all gathered and waited for the Emperor to arrive and begin the ceremony a few ministers and officers were talking. Mostly about the plans he had for the coming year. One of the groups consisted of General Fukuoka, Chief of Staff, Admiral Togo, Commander of the Imperial Japanese Navy, General Sukoka, Commander of the Imperial Japanese Army, Prime Minister Katsura Tago and Minister of Interior Affairs Bugu.

Bugu: “And what do the gentlemen expect? Will his Imperial Majesty decide to go on the aggressive tour and announce a military build up? In the recent years we had a rise of power. I think we now need tools to construct a house, neh?
Fukuoka: “Probably, or at least I hope so. Japan has the capabilities to become a major power in the Far East, and even in the world. He’s has mentioned something in that direction. But let’s ta…”

At that moment it was announced that the Emperor was about to arrive. All the men quickly sat down and bowed as the Emperor walked in, accompanied by his secretaries and guards. Everyone cried as one:

” Tenno Haika Banzai!”

The old Emperor Meiji smiled and gestured to them that they could sit down. He took a sheet of paper from a scribe and began his speech.

“My fellow countrymen! My followers, helpers and right hands! (Meaning the military men here) You have all gathered here for the New Year’s reception, but more importantly, you are here to hear firsthand my plans for Japan in the coming decade.

One of the first things we will actively try to achieve is the full incorporation of Korea and Liaoning in the Japanese Empire. To reach this goal we must start a Japanese Language Course for every adult in these territories. The People must “feel” Japanese and in time they will become Japanese.

An overall educational reform will be enforced. All children in the Empire will enter Primary School when they turn four. In the following eight years they’ll learn to read and write Japanese, basic mathematics, biology, music, arts, geography, history of the Empire, Imperial Nationalism Courses and Physical Education. The Imperial Nationalism Course is intended to “indoctrinate” the pupils, learning them that Japan is the most glorious country there is. Physical Education is intended to increase their physical condition and prepare them to serve the Empire in the future. When they turn twelve, pupils will go to Secondary School were they will continue their educational life. There they’ll learn advanced Mathematics, Advanced Japanese Language and Culture, Biology, Basic Chemistry, Basic Physics, Basic Economics, Advanced History and Geography of the World and the Empire, Arts and of course the Imperial Nationalism Courses and Physical Education. This stage will take five years, and after that pupils will continue to schools, universities and academies were they’ll learn their trade. This will take three to five years.

Now I’ll turn once again to our overseas domains. For the sake of simplicity we should absorb Liaoning in the Korean Administration System.

To increase our popularity investments should be made in Korea, Formosa and Southern Sakhalin. This money could be invested in, say, healthcare, education, infrastructure etc.

Per year, the following sum will go to the following territories:

-10 million/year to Korea/Liaoning (100 million in ten years)
-2 million/year to Sakhalin (20 million in ten years)
-3 million/year to Formosa (30 million in ten years)

As for matters in the Empire as whole, we will increase support for our industry and trade. More factories must be constructed; more shipyards must be build to increase our production.

On the Foreign Field our goals are simple: be everyone’s friend, but be the best of friends of certain countries. With certain countries I mean of course Great Britain (a murmur of approval went through the audience), the United States of America, France, Germany and…China (everyone looks around, simply stunned). Yes, China. I think China is closer to us than, for example, Germany or Great Britain! They are fellow Asians, but unfortunately they are in a far worse position than we are. They are divided in different spheres of influence by western powers. Together, Japan and a liberated and free China can rule Asia and the world, in spite of our common history.

We must try to guarantee the supply of resources for our industry. We must try to acquire either Indochina or the Philippines, but at least we must bring Siam under our control. If possible in a peaceful way.

Now I’ll deal with the most important part of Japan’s plan. The Military Expansion…

In order to secure our position on the world stage Japan should have a well trained, well organized and large enough force to be reckoned with. Thus, after asking the advice of the Chief of Staff and Commanders, I propose the following:

-An increase of 280000 men (infantry and cavalry) in our regular army, thus raising the number from 350000 Infantry and 30000 cavalry to 600000 infantry and 60000 cavalry. This will result to the following list of armies:

1st. Army-100000 infantry, 10000 cavalry (2 Corps, 4 inf. Div. 1 cav. Div.)-Korea
2nd. Army-100000 infantry, 10000 cavalry (2 Corps, 4 inf. Div. 1 cav. Div.)-Korea
3rd. Army-100000 infantry, 10000 cavalry (2 Corps, 4 inf. Div. 1 cav. Div.)-Formosa
4th. Army-100000 infantry, 10000 cavalry (2 Corps, 4 inf. Div. 1 cav. Div.)-Sakhalin
5th. Army-100000 infantry, 10000 cavalry (2 Corps, 4 inf. Div. 1 cav. Div.)-Formosa
6th. Army-100000 infantry, 10000 cavalry (2 Corps, 4 inf. Div. 1 cav. Div.)-Japan

1st. National Army-100000 infantry, 10000 cavalry (2 Corps, 4 inf. Div. 1 cav. Div.)-Japan
2nd. National Army-100000 infantry, 10000 cavalry (2 Corps, 4 inf. Div. 1 cav. Div.)-Korea
1st. 2nd. Line Reserve Corps-50000 infantry-deactivated (ooc. these are current reserves, for the sake of clarity.

To give Japan a good base of recruits in case of war a Recruit Resource Pool will be created, which will consist of 400000 infantry and 40000 cavalry (in other words, enough for 4 entire armies, but it is unlikely that this entire number of troops will be called up). They will receive basic training and in case of war they’ll receive a accelerated training.

The Imperial Japanese Navy must also be strong enough to secure our position in the Pacific and its border waters and at the same time be able to help our Ally Great Britain in case of war.

-2 Dreadnought Battleships
-4 Battlecruisers
-4 Protected Cruisers
-9 Light Cruisers
-20 Destroyers
-5 Submarines
-30 smaller patrol boats (for coastal patrol in the Empire)

This is a large number (ooc. 74 in total!!! :eek: ) ships, and it’ll probably take a decade or more to build all these ships. If possible we could ask either the US or Great Britain to build a number of ships for us.

The last point in my speech is the creation of an Imperial Marine Corps. The total force will be 50000 men, divided in 7 regiments (6 infantry regiments, 1 cavalry regiment). The troops will learn how to wage war on the border of sea and land. They will garrison the major ports and coastal fortresses.

1st. Infantry Regiment-7500 men-Yokohama
2nd. Infantry Regiment-7500 men-Sasebo
3rd. Infantry Regiment-7500 men-Taipei
4th. Infantry Regiment-7500 men-Pusan
5th. Infantry Regiment-7500 men-Seoul
6th. Infantry Regiment-7500 men-Port Arthur
7th. “Cavalry” Regiment-5000 men-Yokohama

I hope and think that I’ve made my points clear. All of you will receive a copy of my and my advisors proposals. I hope you understand that everything will remain secret until I or my Government decides that the time has arrived to announce our plans, or part of our plans. If you have any objections, ideas or anything else to say, please report to me. I’m interested in hearing your views.”

Everyone bowed and saluted the Emperor as he left the room. Tea and other beverages were brought in. Once again the talking began, and everyone was intrigued by the Emperors plans. All of them had known parts of what His Imperial Majesty had proposed, but the full scale of his plans remained unknown up to now.

What would the future bring?

ooc. Wotcher world! Japan is commin' to get ya!

I'll post each plan in seperate posts in my factbook thread.

Pythogria

23-03-2006, 15:35

Chile's president,Arturo Alessandri Palma, woke up. Time to put my newest plan into action... he thought. He was going to rebuild his nation's economy... and take as much of Earth as he could.

---Chile---

Arturo has began a massive terrace project, and mining is starting up. Fishing projects are beginning. Jobs have began to appear.

Warta Endor

23-03-2006, 15:40

To: (OOC: Japan in this case ;))

Text:
Argentina wishes to send the warmest greeting of Friendship to your nation. We wish to establish so sort of trade deal, that is beneficiary to both our countries.

To Everlasting Friendship Between Our Countries!
Signed,

José Figueroa Alcorta,
Presidenté de la Nación

To: Argentina, José Figueroa Alcorta, to be transferred via Japanese Embassy in Buenos Aires
From: Foreign Affairs, Tokyo

Japan thanks you for your warm gesture and wishes to return it. We are glad that you propose a trade deal. We are more a nation of commerce and industry than a agricultural nation, quite the opposite of what Argentina is. In this we can be of great benefit to each other. Argentina can deliver foodstuffs and other agricultural products, for which we will deliver machinery and industrial products in return. We also offer to help build up your industry and train your armed forces, if you wish.

In name of His Imperial Majesty, Emperor Meiji of Japan, Korea, Formosa etc. etc.

Prime Minister Katsura Tago
Foreign Minister Kohoishu Noburu

ps. Good luck with the upcoming elections. If you want to visit Japan, you may do it either before or after the elections.

Pythogria

23-03-2006, 15:47

To: Japan (Prime Minister Katsura Tago)

From: Chile (President Arturo Alessandri Palma)

Re: Trade

Text:

Prime Minister Katsura Tago,

We congradulate you upon your trade agreement with Argentina. We ask to set up the same agreement with you. We are abundant in agriculture and fish, and have a little mining, but we don't have much else. In esscence, we are slightly weaker than Argentina. We ask for you to help us train our military as well.

Signed,
Arturo Allesandri Palma

To: Argentina (José Figueroa Alcorta)

From: Chile (Arturo Allesandri Palma)

Re: Trade

Text:

José Figueroa Alcorta,

Perhaps our nations could set up a trade agreeent? We are not the strongest nations economically, but perhaps we could pool our rescources and work together?

Signed,
Arturo Allesandri Palma

Franberry

23-03-2006, 16:02

To: Germany
Topic: Alliance

Text:
It would be very prosperous for our nations to establish a free trade agreement. I am sure you can benefit greatly from our agricultural and mineral resources, while we could use your heavy machinery. We could also benefit greatly from the experience and intelligence of some of your military officers. I you are willing to, please help us train our military.
We would also like to purchase production rights to the Gewehr 98, produce dby the Mauser company. We see this as an excellent rifle, and would like to use it.

To Everlasting Friendship Between Our Countries!
Signed,

José Figueroa Alcorta,
Presidenté de la Nación

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To: England
Topic: Alliance and Trade

Text:
I belive that an alliance between our coutnries would empower both of us. You have always been the biggest consumer of our goods, and we hope it stays that way. We would like to purchase some things from you.

1 dreadnoguhts
1 battlecrusier
2 crusiers
8 destroyers

We are able to pay with either trade benefits, or money

To Everlasting Friendship Between Our Countries!
Signed,

José Figueroa Alcorta,
Presidenté de la Nación

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To: France
Topic: Alliance and trade

Text:
We hope that our countries can enter into an alliance. It would make both of our countries more powerful, we hope that you realise this, and accept our offer. As for trade, I suggest a trade agreement, so it might travel in more quantity and smoother. Argentina would like to purchase 150 "Canon de 75mm modèle 1897", to be divided into 15 batteries.

To Everlasting Friendship Between Our Countries!
Signed,

José Figueroa Alcorta,
Presidenté de la Nación

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Argentina has expanded its army by 10,000 men, raising the total number to 65,000.

New factories are being built around Buenos Aires, and some smaller ones, and in lesser quantities, are being built in Rosario. Argentina has also sent out benefits to immigrants, saying that it will take any, and that there is plenty of room.

Franberry

23-03-2006, 16:15

(OOC: In 1903, Argentina sold you 2 dreadnoughts, and relations have been good ever since)
Telegram to Japan, to be delivered to the office of the Prime Minister

To: The Prime Minister of Japan, Katsura Tago

Text: Thank you for your offer. We shall gladly take it. Argentina is hoping to become the first "massivly industrialized" nation of Latin America. We already are the richest, so we have the funds to do it. However, we are lacking in the experience department. Japan has made a massive stride, from backwater country, to the greatest power of Asia, you even managed to defeat Russia along the way. We hope you could end some advisors, civillian and military alike, to help us raise Argentina from 1st Latin American power, to a major world power. We will also take your invitation to Japan, although I do not know if I will be able to make it before the elections. I might be sent after the eletions, as it is most likely that my party will win.

To Everlasting Friendship Between Our Countries!
Signed,

José Figueroa Alcorta,
Presidenté de la Nación

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To: The President of Chile, Arturo Allesandri Palma
Topic: Alliance
Text:
We would be more than happy to establish a trade agreement. You are the country closest to us, in political, economical and geographical means. Would you like to enter into a military Alliance as well? If this offer is accepted, I suggest we trade military advisors.

To Everlasting Friendship Between Our Countries!
Signed,

José Figueroa Alcorta,
Presidenté de la Nación

Warta Endor

23-03-2006, 16:57

To: The Prime Minister of Japan, Katsura Tago

Text: Thank you for your offer. We shall gladly take it. Argentina is hoping to become the first "massivly industrialized" nation of Latin America. We already are the richest, so we have the funds to do it. However, we are lacking in the experience department. Japan has made a massive stride, from backwater country, to the greatest power of Asia, you even managed to defeat Russia along the way. We hope you could end some advisors, civillian and military alike, to help us raise Argentina from 1st Latin American power, to a major world power. We will also take your invitation to Japan, although I do not know if I will be able to make it before the elections. I might be sent after the eletions, as it is most likely that my party will win.

To Everlasting Friendship Between Our Countries!
Signed,

José Figueroa Alcorta,
Presidenté de la Nación

To; President José Figueroa Alcorta, President of Argentina
From; Foreign Affairs, Tokyo

We are honored to send advisors of any kind to help Argentina. We will select a few officials and officers who are capable of speaking (at least basic) Spanish. Others will receive a quick Spanish Language course, most of it on the way to your nation. Expect our delagation to arrive in 10 days time. As a gift we also send 1000 Type 38 Rifles with 10 clips (50 bullets) per rifle. You may use them for any purpose. If you find the rifle to be satisfactionairy, you may purchase a number of rifles for a reduced cost.

In name if His Imperial Majesty, Emperor Hirohito of Japan, Korea, Formosa etc. etc.

Prime Minister Katsura Tago

ooc. info on the rifle: http://www.nazarian.no/wep.asp?id=427&group_id=3&country_id=104&lang=0

Franberry

23-03-2006, 17:12

Telegram to Japan, to be delivered to the office of the Prime Minister

To: The Prime Minister of Japan, Katsura Tago

Text:
We thank you for your delegation, and await their arrival. They will be in for quite a welcome, since we are beggins our celebrations for 100 years of freedom from Spain. You can rest assured that they will have their fill of banquets and balls. We thank you very much for your rifles, they are being tested against the Lee-Enfield, wich we currently use. We will send a delgation back with yours, we have several diplomats undergoing Japanese courses. Most of the diplomats that can speak Japanase at are our embassy in your country. We still have a couple here, and they can act as translators, as well as several Japanese immigrants. The delgation will be accompanied by 100 heads of the finest Argentinian cattle, as well as 5 penguins from our Antartic territory. The cattle is for His Imperial Majesty, Emperor Hirohito. The peguins are for your zoos, we expect that they shall be quite the novelty. Also, what do you think of a military alliance?

To Everlasting Friendship Between Our Countries!
Signed,

José Figueroa Alcorta,
Presidenté de la Nación

(OOC: not sure about argentina using the Lee-Enfield, but they had good ties with britian, and many of their weapons. Also the lee-enfield was exported quite a bit)

Warta Endor

23-03-2006, 17:33

To: The Prime Minister of Japan, Katsura Tago

Text:
We thank you for your delegation, and await their arrival. They will be in for quite a welcome, since we are beggins our celebrations for 100 years of freedom from Spain. You can rest assured that they will have their fill of banquets and balls. We thank you very much for your rifles, they are being tested against the Lee-Enfield, wich we currently use. We will send a delgation back with yours, we have several diplomats undergoing Japanese courses. Most of the diplomats that can speak Japanase at are our embassy in your country. We still have a couple here, and they can act as translators, as well as several Japanese immigrants. The delgation will be accompanied by 100 heads of the finest Argentinian cattle, as well as 5 penguins from our Antartic territory. The cattle is for His Imperial Majesty, Emperor Hirohito. The peguins are for your zoos, we expect that they shall be quite the novelty. Also, what do you think of a military alliance?

To Everlasting Friendship Between Our Countries!
Signed,

José Figueroa Alcorta,
Presidenté de la Nación

To; President José Figueroa Alcorta, President of Argentina
From; Foreign Affairs, Tokyo

We thank you for your gifts, they will be greatly appreciated here, especially the penguins. We Japanese are always in for a banquet and other festivities, so that won't be a problem! We are also interested in a military alliance with Argentina. Details will and can be discussed once the delagation arrives.

And maybe we can even set up a joint antartic expedition, which will be the first to reach the South Pole!

In name if His Imperial Majesty, Emperor Hirohito of Japan, Korea, Formosa etc. etc.

Prime Minister Katsura Tago

Franberry

23-03-2006, 17:50

(OOC: this is becoming the "Japan and Argentina become good buddies" thread. I will RP the arrival, if thats ok with you? I will go ahead and do it, and you can tell me to edit or w/e if wou want. I assume they're coming by boat, into Buenos Aires)

The Japanese ship sailed up the Rio de La Plata, towards Buenos Aires. She was escolted by the ARA Almirante Brown, one of Argentina's most powerful warships. The docks were filled to the brim with dignitaries, important citizens, and just about everyone else in the docks, all wanting to see the Japanese. The ship sailed into the dock, were it dropped its anchor. A group of dockworkers ran to the side of the dock, and put a elaborately decorated walkway between the ship and the dock. A carpet was laid out, leading to the feet of the president. Above him, a large banner said "Bienvenidos a la Argentina"(Welcome to Argentina, in both spanish and japanese). The carpet was bordered by Granaderos, the Presidential Guard, who guards the houses of goverment. They are in dress uniform, and they are all 2 meters tall. The president, and the rest of the people on the dock, awaited the Japanese to appear from the ship.

(OOC: Granaderos a caballo(on horse):http://www.tradiciongaucha.com.ar/Argentina/granaderos2.JPG

Also i'm goign otu to lunch, so it will be a bit until I post again)

José Figueroa Alcorta,
Presidenté de la Nación

Relative Liberty

23-03-2006, 17:58

To: France
Topic: Alliance and trade

Text:
We hope that our countries can enter into an alliance. It would make both of our countries more powerful, we hope that you realise this, and accept our offer. As for trade, I suggest a trade agreement, so it might travel in more quantity and smoother. Argentina would like to purchase 150 "Canon de 75mm modèle 1897", to be divided into 15 batteries.

To Everlasting Friendship Between Our Countries!
Signed,

José Figueroa Alcorta,
Presidenté de la Nación
The French government is more than willing to further imrpove relations with our friends in Argentina. To this end we are willing to send you 75 cannon now, in exchange for meat and agricultural products, while the other 75 will be sent upon arrival of those goods. Further we would like to establish a joint military training program, where French troops will be sent to Argentina for training in jungle and mountain warfare. As payment Argentina will receive an additional 175 artillery pieces.

Franberry

23-03-2006, 18:43

The French government is more than willing to further imrpove relations with our friends in Argentina. To this end we are willing to send you 75 cannon now, in exchange for meat and agricultural products, while the other 75 will be sent upon arrival of those goods. Further we would like to establish a joint military training program, where French troops will be sent to Argentina for training in jungle and mountain warfare. As payment Argentina will receive an additional 175 artillery pieces.

Argentina would be more than happy to allow the French soldiers to share the expertise of our mountain and jungle troops. The agricultural products are being sent right now. After the shipment and your troops, we will have 325 75mm pieces. This is a formidable aresenal, we are willing to send more foodstuffs to France, if we are given some artillery advisors. They will not be needed for long, just until our artillery crews have gained enough experience with them. We also hope that we can enter into an alliance.

Warta Endor

23-03-2006, 18:46

ooc. Two bloody meters! That's thirty or fourty centimeters higher than the average Japanese male! :eek:

The Japanese were flattered by all the attention they got from the Argentine officials and citizens. They smiled and waved while the ship docked at the harbour. Three men stood at the rail and watched the crowd coming closer. They were Lieutenant General Fukuoka, son of the Commander in Chief of the Imperial War college and leader of this delegation, Dr. Susuoka, an enginering expert of the Imperial University of Tokyo and Captain Wakurishima, a promising young Naval Officer and Captain of this ship.

Lt. Gen. Fukuoka jr. :"Well, this is a mighty welcome. Especially after the long tiresome journey."
Dr. Susuoka:"Ah yes. A very friendly people. I believe they are currently celebrating their 100 years of independance aren't they?"
Lt. Gen. Fukuoka jr. :"They are in the middle of the festivities. And I've understood that we're invited to some of the parties etc. Could be fun!"
Capt. Wakurishima:"Indeed! I always love a party! But what do you think about that ship? A fine ship it is..."
Fukuoka:"I think Japan has better ships, but that's my opinion! *laughs* Well, let's get prepared to go ashore."

The delagation assembeled at the gangway, Lt. Gen. Fukuoka at the front. The delagation then went ashore and walked through the rows of the Presidential Guards, awed by their length. At the end there was a small stage (ooc. I think so, if it's different tell me) where Fukuoka began a speech, honoring the President, and hoped the mission would be succesful. (Of course some other diplomatic BS which isn't interesting to RP :D)

ooc. Having dinner now, I'll be back later.

Franberry

23-03-2006, 19:04

OOC: you have to be atleast 1.8 meters to join the Granaderos, for foreign diplomats, they would put out their best. And yes, Japan has better warships, but the ARA Almirante Brown is among, if not the, best in Latin America. We have 2 dreadnaughts under construction, and have asked the british to build us one more.

IC:
The Japanese delegate finished his speach. The crowd infront of the stage was cheering loudly, and waving hundred of Japanese and Argentinan flags. The President walked to the podium, and he was welcomed by even more cheering.
"Gracias, Lt. Gen. Fukuoja. We apreciate your words of goodwill. And let me be the first to welcome you to Argentina!" The crowd cheered and applauded.
(Blah,Blah,Blah, Speeeeech, Blah, We love Japan, blah, blah, good friends, blah, blah, age of prosperity, blah, blah)
The crowd applauded when the president finished his speech. The President turned to the Japanese delegation, and said
"Shall we get going then?" He pointed to a convoy of cars, escorted by Granaderos a caballo. His aide translated, the Japanese nodded, and they got into the cars. The convoy departed for La Casa Rosada, The official seat of the executive branch of Argentina.

The schedule for the afternoon went like this:
13:00 - Japanese Arrival
14:00 - End of welcoming ceremony
14:30 - Arrive at La Casa Rosada
15:00 - Meetings (largely introductory, nothing expected to be done)
17:00 - Japanese delgation escorted to hotel
21:00 - Beginning of banquet in Honor of Japan

Sukiaida

23-03-2006, 19:39

Russia's internal problems led to most of the world keeping their mind off of it, but the Duma, and Nicholas the II were plotting and planning as they attempted to get their country in order.

"We have a request sir." Since the lackluster Revolution in the wake of the Japanese war, he'd been forced to listen to these people. He tried not too, but a very pushy Duma seemed to be able to force him to listen. "We must ask for a few more powers and freedoms. Not too much. Force the people back a hundred years beyond your father and they will revolt again. We must give them a crumb. Perhaps a better vote in their Duma. And if they believe we are heralding power for them, they will be much more likely to listen."

THe czar grumbled, he wanted to be out hunting this night. "Also we have come up with some ideas. Currently we know Japan wants more. They forever desire to push us out. War will come against the Japanese within this decade. We must be prepared. THat is why we are asking for the addition of two new armies to move to the Eastern shore of our country. If Japan threatens our territory, the people will be much more inclined to fight than in an invasion of Mongolia. And we can always use our country to crush them, and then invade." THe czar nodded. It would bring glory to his name. Defeating the stain the Japanese war had brought. THe Duma members smiled, they knew how to get their way.

"We also wish to have a large factory building program, to raise our large population out of it's backwardness. Your ancestor Peter attempted the same thing. In this new century we can raise it even more. Bring us out of obscurity. And with those new factories bring even more ships to our navy. We have a plan to have a navy that matches the Japanese very soon. IN about 2 years if need be." Nicholas looked sceptically. "What about Britain?"

THe duma member's knew that questions was coming. "That alliance is very tentative. We have gotten letters from Germany for friendship. France can deal with the German empire on it's own. WIth us, it would definetly mean war. Have the Kaiser get us peace for Britain." The czar slowly nodded in agreement.

(Telegram to Germany)

Dear Wilhelm,

Russia wishes to request something of you, and in relation we shall give you some information that will help you. Japan has been smelling around the borders of Mongolia and the Russian state. Our spies in Tokyo have stated that their military is starting to build, and that we know they are planning to take the German and RUssian influences in China. I worry bout George in England, for if he is not careful his "allies" may steal Singapore from him. He has sided with the Japanese against us before, and I believe it is only you who may convince him to their dangerous actions.

May God Preserve Us Both.

THe letter to Argentina was left buried in paperwork, unseen.

Warta Endor

23-03-2006, 20:13

ooc. Sukiada, you don't need spies to know about my military expansion. See my factbook, Imperial Decrees are published in every Japanese News Paper and town. :)

To: Japan (Prime Minister Katsura Tago)

From: Chile (President Arturo Alessandri Palma)

Re: Trade

Text:

Prime Minister Katsura Tago,

We congradulate you upon your trade agreement with Argentina. We ask to set up the same agreement with you. We are abundant in agriculture and fish, and have a little mining, but we don't have much else. In esscence, we are slightly weaker than Argentina. We ask for you to help us train our military as well.

Signed,
Arturo Allesandri Palma

To; Arturo Allesandri Palma
From; Foreign Affairs, Tokyo

We accept your proposal of a trade deal. It would certainly benefit both our nations. We will also help to train your armed forces, it will be our pleasure to do so. When our delagation in Argentina is finished with her bussines there they'll travel on to Santiago de Chile.

In name of His Imperial Majesty, Emperor Hirohito, Lord of Japan, Korea, Formosa, Sakhalin etc. etc.

Prime Minister Katsura Tago

To; President of the French Republic, Paris
From; Foreign Affairs, Tokyo

First of all, His Imperial Mahjesty greets the President of the most powerful republic in the world.

Japan is very interested in a trade deal and maybe an military alliance of some sort. It would benefit both our nations, both in terms of trade and safety. Our embassador in Paris has full authority to negotiate any deal, or you could send a Telegram to the Foreign Affairs Department in Tokyo.

In name of His Imperial Majesty, Emperor Hirohito, Lord of Japan, Korea, Formosa, Sakhalin etc. etc.

Prime Minister Katsura Tago

To; Office of Prime Minister Herbert Henry Asquith, London
From; Foreign Affairs, Tokyo

First of all the Emperor of Japan would like to greet the head of state of our greatest ally.

We would like to talk about the renewal (ooc. once every five years, officially in 1912) and possibly strengthen our Angol-Japanese Alliance. We would negotiate about trade and the purchase of British Arms and vessels. If possible the Japanese Minister of Foreign Affairs would like to visit Great Britain.

Blessings and Good Luck,

In Name of His Imperial Majesty, Emperor Hirohito, Lord of Japan, Korea, Formosa, Sakhalin etc. etc.

Prime Minister Katsura Tago

To; His Imperial Majesty Kaiser Wilhelm II, Berlin
From; Foreign Affairs, Tokyo

First of all, His Imperial Majesty greets the Emperor of Germany's Powerful Emperor.

Japan is very interested in a trade deal and maybe an military alliance of some sort. It would benefit both our nations, both in terms of trade and safety. Our embassador in Berlin has full authority to negotiate any deal, or you could send a Telegram to the Foreign Affairs Department in Tokyo.

In name of His Imperial Majesty, Emperor Hirohito, Lord of Japan, Korea, Formosa, Sakhalin etc. etc.

Prime Minister Katsura Tago

To; President of the United States of America, Washington DC
From; Foreign Affairs, Tokyo

First of all, His Imperial Majesty greets the President of the rich United States of America.
Japan is very interested in a trade deal and maybe a military alliance of some sort. It would benefit both our nations, both in terms of trade and safety. Our embassador in Washington has full authority to negotiate any deal, or you could send a Telegram to the Foreign Affairs Department in Tokyo.

We would also like to request if Shipyards in America could construct a number of ships for the Imperial Japanese Navy.

In name of His Imperial Majesty, Emperor Hirohito, Lord of Japan, Korea, Formosa, Sakhalin etc. etc.

Prime Minister Katsura Tago

To; His Divine Ruler of Russia, Heir of the Roman Empire, Protector of Christ, Nicholas II
From; Foreign Affairs, Tokyo

His Imperial Majesty knows that our common history isn't one of peace and blessing. We have had our differences and arguments in the past, but it is better for us to forget those matters. They are history.

It would certainly benefit both our nations, and the world, if we become friends (maybe even close friends) and work together rather than against each other. We could trade, work together on the scientific field. It would be gglory to both our nations and the world.

In name of His Imperial Majesty, Emperor Hirohito, Lord of Japan, Korea, Formosa, Sakhalin etc. etc.

Prime Minister Katsura Tago

Franberry

23-03-2006, 20:34

(big snip)

THe letter to Argentina was left buried in paperwork, unseen.

(OOC: poo)

Warta Endor

23-03-2006, 20:41

Franberry

23-03-2006, 20:46

ooc. Lol, like your speech :D
ooc: thanks, shoudl we rp the negotiations? and all that diplomatic stuff? or is it too boring?

Warta Endor

23-03-2006, 20:51

ooc. Why not? We could speed it up a bit faster to the real negotiations, but for the rest I don't mind.

Elite Battle Hordes

23-03-2006, 20:58

Dear President José Figueroa Alcorta of Argentina,

We accept your offer of alliance, are willing to lend our officer's expertise, and will sell the rights to produce the Gewehr 98. We are, however, concerned with your alliance with the French. We ask only that in the unfortunate circumstance that war breaks out between German and France that you maintain a firm neutral stance. Otherwise we look forward to a long and fruitful friendship with you.

Sincerely,

Kaiser Wilhelm II

Germany is using the money saved from the halting of surface naval production to massive defenses along the French-German border. Consisting of pill boxes, trenches, and many other obstacles, it is expected to be completed in May of 1913.

Franberry

23-03-2006, 21:07

(OOC: It's the second day now)
The Japanese delegation strode into the room
"Welcome friends, I hope you enjoyed the party?" as the President said this, each member of the Japanese delegation was given 2 papers, 1 in spanish, 1 in japanese.

-------------
2nd day of the Argentine-Japanese Negotiations of 1910

Topics:
Argentine-Japanese alliance
Trade
Cooperation
Exchange of Military officials
Joint-training program

Elite Battle Hordes

23-03-2006, 21:10

Dear Prime Minister Katsura Tago of Japan,

Germany would very much like an alliance between our two great nations. We are willing, as a gesture of goodwill, to sell our Asian colonies to you. We await your reply.

Sincerely,

Kaiser Wilhelm II

Elderodo

23-03-2006, 21:11

I hate being in this discussion!

Franberry

23-03-2006, 21:13

Telegram to be delivered to the office of the Kaiser, via the Argentinian embassy in Berlin

To: Kaiser Wilhelm II

Thank you for accepting both our offer and granting us production rights. As far as our alliance with the French, the last thing we want to see is a major Europaen war. If relations get increasingly worse, and the brink of war is reached, Argentina would be more than happy to act as negotiators/mediators, a third party to help the diplomatic process continue.

To Everlasting Friendship Between Our Countries!
Signed,

José Figueroa Alcorta,
Presidenté de la Nación

Franberry

23-03-2006, 21:14

I hate being in this discussion!
Please do not disturb us

Sukiaida

23-03-2006, 21:18

Nicholas the II looked at the mound of paperwork he'd just gone through, attempting to find anything that might make his situation better. A random telegram hit his interest as he picked it up. It took him half an hour to find where Argentina happened to be on the map. Such a small country out of the way, and then he looked through some more reports. He grimaced as he saw the reports of the two British ships that Argentina had sold to Japan. Those two ships probably sunk his battleships off of Tsushima.

That battle had been a mixed blessing. It had lost him the war, but again it had also gotten rid of several horribly managed ships that should have been mothballed years ago. THe new Russian battleships being built to replace them were certaintly going to be much better use. He thought about it, no telegram from Germany. And Japan trying to make a plea for peace. He wondered. His entire Duma wanted war with Japan, but he knew that getting property in a peaceful manner might be good as well. SHould he go the way of Alexander the II and be the peacemaker who helped the RUssian people. Or be Peter the Great who made war, and made the RUssian people proud. Which to be. He wished he could be both. Perhaps he could be. With the mounting tension with Germany and France he might just be able to. As long as he could keep Britain out of it.

To Argentina:
We would like a trade agreement with you, however we must ask what you propose to trade with the Russian Empire. Once the specifics can be decided upon, we would be more than willing to trade with you. Perhaps we may purchase some ships.

To Japan:
An order of peace would be preferable, however we must ask what you wish to do about the current Mongolian situation. Peace can be preferable, but Russia will not give into peace for the price of giving in property that would better serve RUssia.

(OOC: Yes, but remember Soviet Spies were the excellent ones. THe Russian spies under the czar were rather lackluster.)

Franberry

23-03-2006, 21:25

Warta Endor

23-03-2006, 21:32

Fukuoka:"It was a great party! We thank you for the invitation. But now to bussiness.

As for the alliance, we have made a draft treaty. *hands over a sheet of paper*

Hereby the Empire of Japan and the Republic of Argentina promise solemnly to help each other in case of:

-A direct attack: the other signatory will provide the victim of the attack with economical, military and political aide.
-An attack made by one of the signatories: the other is not obliged to help the attacker, it is up to the signatory if he'll aid the attacker.
-An ally of a signatory is attacked, thus bringing in one of the signatories: the other signotory of this treaty is not obliged to give direct military support, unless he choses to give direct military help.
-An ally of a signatory is the attacker: the other signatory is not obliged to help in any way, unless he choses to.

As for trade, Japan will supply Argentina with machinery and other industrial products in return for Argentine Agricultural Products, especially foodstuffs. I think this is pretty clear. If you have suggestions, we'll be happy to hear them.

Japan will also aid Argentina in becoming a world power, both in military as in industrial and commerce. And not forget the military and scientific cooperation. I also think this point is clear.

Japan will gladly receive Argentinian officers on it's academy and military facilities. We could both learn from this experience. If you wish it Argentine units can be used to combat actions to get some experience. It may be risky stuff though, be ready for casualties to fall in that case.

As a military officer I'm greatly excited by the proposal of a joint training programme. Japan lacks training in jungle terrain and mountain warfare. Also certain plains could be excellent areas for manuevers I'm told."

With this last comment he waited for an Argentine Reaction.

Dear Prime Minister Katsura Tago of Japan,

Germany would very much like an alliance between our two great nations. We are willing, as a gesture of goodwill, to sell our Asian colonies to you. We await your reply.

Sincerely,

Kaiser Wilhelm II

To; Kaiser Wilhelm II
From; Foreign Affairs, Tokyo

We accept your proposal of alliance, details can be worked out via our embassy or you could wait for the visit of our Foreign Minister to Europe. We are gladly excited about the deal for your asian colonies (does this include the German Pacific posessions?). Name your price and we will consider, but this is a very tempting offer.

Prime Minister Katsura Tago

Warta Endor

23-03-2006, 21:39

ooc. that's true. What was the name of the Soviet Spy again in Tokyo during WWII? The one that warned Stalin for both Operation Barbarossa and Pearl Harbour? I thought it was Sergio or something. But what do you mean with the Mongolian situation? And a peacetreaty was already signed in 1905, I just want to improve our relations.

To Japan:
An order of peace would be preferable, however we must ask what you wish to do about the current Mongolian situation. Peace can be preferable, but Russia will not give into peace for the price of giving in property that would better serve Russia.

To; Emperor Nicholas II
From; Foreign Affairs

We are a bit confused here. We currently have no troops in Mongolia nor do we plan to send troops there. It is part of Imperial China and is under your sphere of influence, so we wouldn't dare to enter Mongolia. We just want to improve our relations.

Prime Minister Katsura Tago

Franberry

23-03-2006, 21:54

"We find this agreeable, we hope it can become official as soon as possible." The President said about the alliance proposal. "The same goes for the trade benefits. We can really use machines for the factories that are begging to spring up around our urban centers. As far as military, industrial, commercial and scientific cooperation, go, we agree to everything. Coronel Mayor (Brigadier General) Estroba will now talk to you about the military side of things."
Coronel Mayor Estroba was a rising star in the Argentian miltary, with a father in the diplomatic corps. His job was the military attache to the President, a very important post.
"We will exchange officers. You are right on your assumptions of our terrian. We can also offer winter training. In our most southernmost provinces. Now, this is extreme winter conditions, the Swedes and Russians train in these conditions. The landscape is barren and unforgiveable, it is also in many parts on the coast of the Atlantic, adding extremely chilly winds . We send as many troops as we can there, for the training prepares them to go to extremes. Oh, as far as this offer of "combat expirience" goes, where exactly would our officers be sent?"

Jihadin

23-03-2006, 22:02

Topic: Alliance

Text:
My Brazilian friend, what do you say to an alliance? Both of our countries have become very powerful, yet we are ignored in European politics. BY forming an alliance, we will strengthen each other, improved trade and political relations shall allow us to grow even further.

To Everlasting Friendship Between Our Countries!
Signed,

José Figueroa Alcorta,
Presidenté de la Nación

To José Figueroa Alcorta
We in Brazil of course will be happy to accept this alliance.. We in the Americas must continue to stand firm together. It gives me great joy to form an alliance with you

Signed
Hermes Rodrigues da Fonseca

Warta Endor

23-03-2006, 22:04

Fukuoka:"Well, it depends on the situation. We still have a possibility of "interior" unrests somewhere in the Empire. But you can at least be sure that it will be in Asia, as Japan wouldn't and doesn't want to do anything in Africa, Europe or the Americas.

And maybe we could include other countries in this treaty? We will deal with the Chileans later on, and the Brazilians could also join a "grand alliance". What do you think?"

ooc. I'm going to bed now. G'nigh to you all!

Warta Endor

23-03-2006, 22:12

ps. how do we call the alliance?

Franberry

23-03-2006, 22:15

Estroba looked to the President, a "Grand Alliance" was not his area of decition.
"For now, Gen. Fukuoka, we would hope for an alliance just between our countries, in the future however, we would be more than happy to revist this proposal. We wish to send 100 officers for this combat experience, they will undergo Japanese lessons before going into action however. Nothing would be more annoying than having the translator killed and having to communicate in sign language. We also have several aeroplanes, our scientists are experimenting with them, for both gorund and naval roles. Do you have a program like this? and would you be willing to co-operate?"
A man burst into the room, and whispered in the Presidents ear.
"Sorry my friends, urgent telegram. Excuse me." He bowed, as he'd seen the Japanese do, and walked out of the room.

-------------------------------------------

To be delivred to the President of Brazil, via the Argentinian embassy

To: Hermes Rodrigues da Fonseca
Topic: Alliance

Text:
We are very happy to establish this alliance with you. Would you like to partake in a naval exersice?

To Everlasting Friendship Between Our Countries!
Signed,

José Figueroa Alcorta,
Presidenté de la Nación

Franberry

23-03-2006, 22:16

ps. how do we call the alliance?
(ooc: ??, what do you mean? I announced it in my factbook. http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=474196)

Naktan

23-03-2006, 22:21

[TO EMPIRE OF JAPAN]:
An alliance between Japan and Argentina - while respectable - does not serve in the greater interest of the people of the Americas. We must vehemently protest this call, seeing as it is part of our obligation to ensure the safety of the American continents for all Americans.

Furthermore, we remind the Empire of Japan of their spheres reside in Asia and this alliance serves no greater interest to promote Japan's interests there. An alliance with Argentina would be forcibly entangling in American affairs, of which we cannot allow.

Therefore, we repsectfully request that your Majesty Mutsuhito resolves to terminate this formal alliance between your two states.

[TO FRENCH REPUBLIC]:
An alliance between France and Argentina - while respectable - does not serve in the greater interest of the people of the Americas. We must vehemently protest this call, seeing as it is part of our obligation to ensure the safety of the American continents for all Americans.

We respect the position of our European friends across the ocean, seeking to secure better footholds on the affairs of the world. However, we feel that the situation in Europe would become to volatile and thus suck the American people into a conflict there, and as much as we do not wish to become entangled in European affairs, we request that you do not seek to entangle yourselves in American affairs. There are no interests in America that would better serve your country, save the territories that you currently possess. Your government shouldn't make such hasty actions in the Americas, to make formal alliances with any American state.

Therefore, we implore your government to terminate this alliance between your two states.

[WARNING TO ARGENTINA]:

We must respectully request that your government ceases to entangle in foreign affairs, especially of those from other continents, since they have no interest in a formal alliance with your government, but rather to secure their interests in your territory, and as Americans, we cannot also foreign powers to entangle in American affairs.

Your invitations of foreign powers threatens to upset the balance of American power in the world, and it furthermore provides them an incentive to seek means to exploit the Americas for themselves. We must implore your government to revoke the formal alliances with all non-American nations and furthermore to retract any other invitations. These actions are most abominable for any American state to accede to and to accord a non-American state with territorial privileges.

[ooc: This might seem out of character, but the US would be historically infuriated that your nations would dare to test the principles of the Monroe Doctrine...consider this extremely fair...]

Jihadin

23-03-2006, 22:22

To Germany.
Brazil would first like to extend, hands of friendship to Germany. We propose a trade route between our two countries. We also request permission to buy rights to the German Maschinengewehr 08 and Flammenwerfer. We will be glad to pay for the rights of the two items in raw resources or hard cash.

We eagerly await your answer.

From Brazil
Signed
Hermes Rodrigues da Fonseca

Secret Message

Naktan

23-03-2006, 22:23

Jihadin

23-03-2006, 22:25

To: José Figueroa Alcorta of Argentina.

We of course would be more then happy to participate in a naval excercise with you. Please state the location.

Signed
Hermes Rodrigues da Fonseca

Jihadin

23-03-2006, 22:26

[ooc: this would extremely upset and antagonize relations with the USA...]

OOC: Not really...It isn't an alliance, its advance trading... sure its technology but it technically isn't foreign intervention..although I suppose the radicals in congress could call it that

*change* sorry making it a secret message

Sukiaida

23-03-2006, 22:26

To Argentina:

At this moment our steel processing has been having problems. If you would be willing to supply us with steel, as well as perhaprs with rubber, we would be more than willing to start a trade agreement.

To Japan:
Are you stating that you have no furthur interests in upper China, then may we ask why you continue to hold onto Korea. Forgive us for being caustious about a peace agreement, but there are thousands of widows in RUssia who question peace with the Japanese as their husbands sit in sunken battleships, and their sons are buried near Port Arthur. Forgetting surprise attacks by your country (It was hailed by the US as a military wonder, though it would be repeated at Pearl Harbor. Strange really) when we were supposed to be at peace.

Currently I will be holding a banquet nearby. To show both our good will, it might be good for you to fill your embassy with an ambassader in St. Petersburg. THe ambassador left after the US had us form the treaty. It might be a good welcoming if he were to attend our banquet. To prevent any misunderstandings. THen maybe we may plant the seed of peace later. After the mourning mothers and wives have had time to quiet down.

Naktan

23-03-2006, 22:32

OOC: Not really...It isn't an alliance, its advance trading... sure its technology but it technically isn't foreign intervention..although I suppose the radicals in congress could call it that

*change* sorry making it a secret message

[ooc: I thought it was talking about an alliance...oh well...]

Jihadin

23-03-2006, 22:33

[ooc: I thought it was talking about an alliance...oh well...]

OOC: LOL USA if you want you can open negotiations with Brazil

Naktan

23-03-2006, 22:39

OOC: LOL USA if you want you can open negotiations with Brazil

[ooc: sorry...alliances are un-American at this point...can't do...but we will collectively "cooperate" with your government :D]

Sukiaida

23-03-2006, 22:59

OOC: RUssia is having a problem with Japan as well. So remember RUssia is always looking for friendly relations.

Franberry

23-03-2006, 23:09

[ooc: This might seem out of character, but the US would be historically infuriated that your nations would dare to test the principles of the Monroe Doctrine...consider this extremely fair...]

(OOC: The Monroe Doctrine makes the RP boring)

To: United States of America
From: Argentina

If you wish to become our allies, and therefore maintain the "American balance of power". We ask you to respect our alliance with foreign powers. Argentina now has alliances with France, Germany, Japan and Brazil. If you wish, we can enter into an alliance or we can work out some sort of trade deal.

signed,

José Figueroa Alcorta,
Presidenté de la Nación

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To: Russia

We can send you both steel and rubber, but in very in small quanties. Although it is little, it is better than nothing. I hope this improves relations between our countries.

signed,

José Figueroa Alcorta,
Presidenté de la Nación

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To: Brazil

We would like to hold the naval excercises somewhere along the coast of northen Argentina or southern Brazil.

signed,

José Figueroa Alcorta,
Presidenté de la Nación

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To: Germany

We would like to purchase rights to the Maschinengewehr 08 and Luger Pistol, as we are aiming to arm our army with German small arms, which have proven themselves to be superior, time and time again.

signed,

José Figueroa Alcorta,
Presidenté de la Nación

Naktan

23-03-2006, 23:43

[ooc: boring, schmoring...it's American policy...]

The United States vehemently decries Argentina's formation of alliances as anti-American, and we must press all nations to cease entangling in American affairs. We do not respect, nor do we recognize any form of alliance between any American state with a foreign power. Argentina is only setting herself for failure as she becomes embroiled in entangling alliances that will ultimately suck her nation's vitality. Foreign interventions are furthermore not tolerated and we would much rather let Europe and Asia make their alliances amongst themselves. Asia belongs to Asia; Europe belongs to Europe, and America belongs to America; it's that simple, and by revoking these alliances, we wish to maintain that form of stable world order, as it has succeeded relatively unhindered since the Napoleonic Wars.

As for the Argentinian call for alliance, we cannot accept this proposal, however well-intended it is, as it is not within our policy or ability to insure a mutual alliance with another power.

Elite Battle Hordes

23-03-2006, 23:45

Dear Argentina, Germany will gladly sell you the rights to the Maschinengewehr 08 and the Luger Pistol.

Sincerely,

Kaiser Wilhelm II

Dear Brazil, Germany accepts your offer of trade and will gladly sell you the rights to the German Maschinengewehr 08 and Flammenwerfer.

Sincerely,

Kaiser Wilhelm II

OOC: Warta Endor, yes that includes them as well. I don't know how much they are worth in terms of 1910 money (or even modern money really) and I would rather not do so much research so lets just say that Germany is selling them for what they are worth.

Sukiaida

23-03-2006, 23:50

To Argentina:

We will gladly accept this trade, though we must state that we will respect the United States doctrine of Monroe. We have enough problems in Europe and Asia to get entangled in problems from abroad. However, should the United States attempt to stop our trade, we will of course fight to keep our friendly neutrality towards Argentina. Free trade must not be hindered between countries.

To the United States:

I have taken the liberty to hear your statements and must ask if you are truly bringing your anger towards the right area. Argentina is after all a country that is relativly new to the world scene. THey are probably just trying to gain some security in a world that lacks it.

I feel that in truth to get angry at them would be detrimental. I think instead that you should watch more for the countries they are allying with. I will not name names, but alliances with Argentina are coming from countries that have tried and continue to try to conquer both Europe and Asia. I think being friendly with Argentina may be your best recourse. Russia does not ally itself right now with anyone. And yet we are friendly to many. We wish to be friendly to you Americans. And we honor your agreement to be protect your countrymen. We wish to protect our fellow Slavs in much the same manner.

God Bless.

Russian Army Decree

Russian army soldiers will now be trained double what they were, with more training spent on movement and discipline. THe RUssian Army must be an army of more than numbers.

Franberry

23-03-2006, 23:52

To: Kaiser Willem II

Thank you for providing us with the production rights. We hope the link between our nations continues to improve. As a gift, we would like to send the Kaiser 50 heads of the finest Argentinian cattle, as well as 6 pengiuns. We assume few in Germany have seen a penguin, and think that they are enjoyable creatures. We also welcome the Kaiser to our nation, if he wishes to make a trip.

signed,

José Figueroa Alcorta,
Presidenté de la Nación

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To: The United States of America
From: Argentina

We respect your decision, however, what do you say to a trade agreement? Does that interfere with your doctrine?

signed,

José Figueroa Alcorta,
Presidenté de la Nación

Franberry

24-03-2006, 00:02

To: Russia

We respect you descion, we hope that trade shall flourish between our countries.

signed,
José Figueroa Alcorta,
Presidenté de la Nación
.

Pythogria

24-03-2006, 00:15

To; Arturo Allesandri Palma
From; Foreign Affairs, Tokyo

We accept your proposal of a trade deal. It would certainly benefit both our nations. We will also help to train your armed forces, it will be our pleasure to do so. When our delagation in Argentina is finished with her bussines there they'll travel on to Santiago de Chile.

In name of His Imperial Majesty, Emperor Hirohito, Lord of Japan, Korea, Formosa, Sakhalin etc. etc.

Prime Minister Katsura Tago

---snippified---

To: Japan (Prime Minister Katsura Tago)

From: Chile (President Arturo Allesandri Palma)

Re: Accepted

Prime Minister Katsura Tago,

We accept a full military alliance and trade. May our nations flourish!

Signed,
Arturo Allesandri Palma
To: The President of Chile, Arturo Allesandri Palma
Topic: Alliance
Text:
We would be more than happy to establish a trade agreement. You are the country closest to us, in political, economical and geographical means. Would you like to enter into a military Alliance as well? If this offer is accepted, I suggest we trade military advisors.

To Everlasting Friendship Between Our Countries!
Signed,

José Figueroa Alcorta,
Presidenté de la Nación
To: Argentina (José Figueroa Alcort)

From: Chile (Arturo Allesandri Palma)

Re: Accepted

José Figueroa Alcort,

We accept all of your terms. May we grow strong!

Signed,
Arturo Allesandria Palma

Franberry

24-03-2006, 00:23

To: The President of Chile, Arturo Allesandri Palma
Topic: Alliance

Text:
Thank you for accepting our terms, military advisors are on their way.

To Everlasting Friendship Between Our Countries!
Signed,

José Figueroa Alcorta,
Presidenté de la Nación

Argentina is allied with the following nations:
(Note: not one big alliance)
France
Germany
Japan
Brazil
Chile

Jihadin

24-03-2006, 00:39

To Germany
Brazil thanks Germany for there permission.

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(Back in Brazil)
Hermes toyed with a small dagger for a minute before tossing it neatly into his cabinet.
"Get this signed" A boy nods and hurry outs.

(Notice to the entire world)
I, Hermes Rodrigues da Fonseca, President of Brazil ask any nation willing to aid in the industrialization of Brazil to contact the Brazilian foreign relations office. We currently have a need for large amounts of machinery and are also opening up Brazil to foreign investments.
Thank you and good day

End Notice

Naktan

24-03-2006, 00:46

[TELEGRAM TO ARGENTINA]:
We will consider the free trade agreements at a noteworthy time. Until then, we respectfully ask that you revoke your alliances with the Empire of Japan, the Republic of France, and the German Empire. These will only be detrimental to the growth of America's prosperity if we begin involving ourselves in the affairs that concerns Europe or Asia.

[TELEGRAM TO RUSSIA]:
We appreciate your declination of the alliance with Argentina and for rightfully recognizing that Russian interests should not be entangled in the interests of American states.

[TELEGRAM TO JAPAN]:
We echo our calls to your government stated earlier to revoke the alliance between your government and American interests. It is imperative that Japan recognizes her interests do not and should not infringe on American interests in America. It is to your benefit that this alliance be revoked so that Japanese interests in Asia can be better maintained and pursued.

[TELEGRAM TO FRANCE]:
We echo our calls to your government stated earlier to revoke the alliance between your government and American interests in America. As a friendly partner, we respect France's interests in Europe, and therefore as a show of good faith, it is imperative that France reserve American interests for Americans only. This alliance only threatens to throw France's interests into unmanageable stretches of military and economic support, which would be detrimental to the state of America and of France. It would be better if France maintained her alliances with the European powers, on whom she can have a better understanding and better support without the needless and devastating entanglements in American interests.

[TELEGRAM TO GERMANY]:
The recent announcement of the state of alliance between your government and an American state is both reproachable and needlessly endangering. Recognizing that Germany has a formidable power center, we feel that forming an alliance with a nation so detached in America would be detrimental to the state in Germany, that it would pose itself at a disadvantage against other powers in the region - noting the animosity between France and Russia as primary examples. While we do not maintain any opinion on the matter, an alliance with any American state would not be fitting, considering that your government would have little ability to maintain your interests here and there.

Therefore, we respectfully request the Kaiser to revoke the alliance existing between Germany and Argentina, considering that European and American interests would become dangerously entangled, and thus unfit for a proper existence of alliance. We rightfully recognize German interests in European affairs, and we would therefore deem it imperative that you recognize American interests in American affairs.

Naktan

24-03-2006, 00:47

Naktan

24-03-2006, 00:51

Sukiaida

24-03-2006, 00:52

To Brazil:

Russia is incapable of helping you in gaining machinery, for we ourselves are attempting to industrialize, and like yourself are taking our country into the 20th century. We can, however, help to give economic advisors and would gladly welcome Brazilian advisors as both our countries industrialize.

A group of 5 transport ships head towards Argentina for the trade.

Franberry

24-03-2006, 00:52

To be delivered to the President's office, via the Argentinian embassy in Washington D.C.

To: The United States of America
From: Argentina

Thank you for considering our proposal. Until then, we respectfully ask that you stop with your suggestions. These suggestions to drop our alliances are only hindering the growth of Argentina's prosperity. If Argentina chooses to involve herself in Europe and Asia, it is her desition.

signed,

José Figueroa Alcorta,
Presidenté de la Nación

Koryan

24-03-2006, 00:57

Germany also calls for a peace summit between itself, Italy, and Austria-Hungary. The dispute over Trentino, Triesta, Istria, South Tyrol, and Gorizia must be solved.

Italy agrees, and requests that Austria attend diplomatic talks over the issue. Until then, Italy suspends its promise to come to the dual-empire’s aid if attacked.

Argentina wishes to send the warmest greeting of Friendship to your nation. We wish to establish so sort of trade deal, that is beneficiary to both our countries.

Italy agrees to the deal. Italy is always looking for new sources of natural resources to meet its ever-growing population and industry.

Franberry

24-03-2006, 01:04

To be delivered to the His majesty's office, via the Argentinian embassy in Rome

To: The Kingdom of Italy

Thank you for accepting our proposal. Would you like to take it one step further? and establish an alliance? If you do so, you can expect us to help you in military(in the case of an unprovoked attack) and civillian ways. If you accept, you can expect to gain even more trade benefits, and Argentinian military advisors. We shall also offer the extreme climate regions of our country for military training.

We hope friendship blossoms between our countries.

signed,

José Figueroa Alcorta,
Presidenté de la Nación

Koryan

24-03-2006, 01:13

Naktan

24-03-2006, 01:15

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[TELEGRAM TO ARGENTINA]:
If the Republic of Argentina continues to ignore the interests of Americans, there shall be severe restrictions on the legitimacy of their claims in American affairs, considering all of the interests of all Americans in the region. This is our last request; there will be no more.

[TELEGRAM TO ALL NON-AMERICAN NATIONS]:
Your governments are exceedingly and unacceptably encroaching on American interests, and seeing as your countries do not even have the legitimacy to respect American interests, we are asking for the last time to refrain from entangling in American affairs, as it is to no avail for your nations to interfere in our intentions. Stop infringing on our natural right to the affairs of the Americas.

SIC to US Fleet:
Initiate orders to send patrol force to the Rio de la Plata area and disembark 10,000 Marines to secure American interests in Argentina. We do not want any hostility to grow from this, and it is unnecessarily dangerous what Argentina does to entangle herself in the meddling of European and Asian affairs; we must protect them from the foreign powers of the world.

Franberry

24-03-2006, 01:18

To: Argentina

The Italian Kingdom would be happy to form an alliance with Argentina. As for military training, I'm afraid Italian soldiers will probably only see two types of terrain in their lives - the Alps and hills. Perhaps later we can discuss training in each other's nations. However, I have noticed Italy's poor military compared to many other nations and plan on creating a much larger force if the economy and resources allow it. Italy is a young kingdom but it will not die young.

To: Italy

Thank you for accepting our offer of an alliance. Please take as a gift 50 of Argentina's finest horses, for His Majesty's personal use. I hope our alliance will continue. Argentina will be more than happy to help Italy's military expand. We can supply you with rifles (Gewehr 98), at a cheap cost.

Franberry

24-03-2006, 01:22

Koryan

24-03-2006, 01:34

Your governments are exceedingly and unacceptably encroaching on American interests, and seeing as your countries do not even have the legitimacy to respect American interests, we are asking for the last time to refrain from entangling in American affairs, as it is to no avail for your nations to interfere in our intentions. Stop infringing on our natural right to the affairs of the Americas.

Yeah, blow up the Italian trading ships. You might want to think about the 2,000,000 Italian immigrants (plus millions more with direct Italian heritage). There are also millions of Italian immigrants working coffee fields in Brazil and are becoming quite the minority in Argentina. So before you start waving around your little piece of paper, do a little research.

(Also, think about who's going to be brewing your alcohol during prohibition ;) )

Naktan

24-03-2006, 01:34

[TELEGRAM TO The United States of America]:
You say you fight against imperialism, yet you recent action is the very embodiment of the word. We ask you that your fleet does not eneter national Argentinan waters.

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The Argentinian fleet is on high alert. 10,000 troops now garrison Buenos Aires.

There has been an increased production of Gewehr 98's and other weaponry.

SIC TO Argentina:

Imperialism? What is this "imperialism"? We neither condone nor condemn this idea as put on by other nations; we only ask that they respect American interests in America. Furthermore, your policies have put you at odds with American interests; therefore we must protect you from yourselves in your threats to American interests. Any troops that arrive in Argentina are within our right as Americans to defend our interests, and thus there should be no conflict here about this. However, if Argentina attacks any troops that would arrive to protect our interests there, there will be serious repurcussions for a blatant disregard for American interests in the region.

[OOC: there is little way that Argentina would know that American forces have departed for the Rio de la Plata considering that it was a SIC; and furthermore, your arguments about "national" territory is a post WWII concept, something that the UN fixed.]

Naktan

24-03-2006, 01:36

Yeah, blow up the Italian trading ships. You might want to think about the 2,000,000 Italian immigrants (plus millions more with direct Italian heritage). There are also millions of Italian immigrants working coffee fields in Brazil and are becoming quite the minority in Argentina. So before you start waving around your little piece of paper, do a little research.

(Also, think about who's going to be brewing your alcohol during prohibition ;) )

Trade is not an entanglement of American interests, and in fact we very much encourage trade with the European and Asian interests; as long as trades don't become alliances, which then entangle national policies to unavoidable and unwanted consequences that we will not pursue under any circumstance.

Koryan

24-03-2006, 01:42

Sukiaida

24-03-2006, 01:50

Russia wonders why others have decided to involve themselves in Alliances with Argentina. In truth their military prowess is not known, and currently Russia considers trade a much more lucritave observation. At least that is currently Russia's understanding of the situation.

Naktan

24-03-2006, 01:59

To: The United States of America

Italy isn't requesting Argentina to invade Austria and actually discourage it (remember, everyone's trying NOT to start a world war at this point in time). They have simply been nice enough to supply military advisors to help with the construction of an REAL Italian Army. As for the alliance, Argentina get's their population boost, cheap labor, and manufactored products while Italy gets some natural resources.

IC to the Kingdom of Italy:

What is the nature of this "alliance" if there is no military and/or political suport behind it?

[ooc: FYI to all, your alliance craze has become a little too unreasonable...by this time, it is a commonly accepted norm to consent to the Monroe Doctrine [i.e. no foreign troops on American troops except for those that already exist, no political/military involvement in American affairs, et cetera...]. The only person who is actually right on track is Russia [and for the right reason as well!!!]. The only historical precedent in which the Monroe Doctrine was directly violated was the French invasion of Mexico during the Civil War - although immediately afterwards, as American forces lined up on the Mexican border to oust the French, they did pull out. Finally, just because we don't accept alliances doesn't mean that we accept trades and such [of course, being excessively selfish and such, they tax it alot...].

That said, the traditional pre-1945 concept of an alliance was direct political and military support for a nation [training exercises were actually a BIG no-no historically, because it meant hosting foreign powers on their soil, which usually made the citizens very mad, especially in peacetime]. Economic support was something created through the Marshall plan; and this idea of national sovereignty of all nations was not incorporated until the UN came to exist... nearly all of your concepts of alliances and international cooperation are post-1945, if not post-Cold War...]

Naktan

24-03-2006, 02:00

Lachenburg

24-03-2006, 02:10

July 1st, 1910

Astara, Iran
Somewhere along the road.

Into the open desert the Shah gazed endlessly, his legs made weary by the ornate leather saddle that dug into his thighs and pelvis. The sun, now just emerging from the mountains in the distance cascaded gold beams of soft light across the wind-swept plains of the Central Asian highlands, bringing with it the swealtering heat of the day and the hordes of insects that bit and stung as they crossed one's path.

However, such inconviences were only minor to this ordained leader for his joy and confidence were too great. Since the year of 1909, he had lived in exile from his country, banned from entrance by a new Constitutional Regime, a regime that sought to westernize and democratize, a blatant disregard of ancient tradition. Such efforts were lead by the Majlis, or Parliament, which now sought to restore control to a country after the outsting of the great Shah while simultaniously promoting the ideals of a new age.

But the Shah had vowed to return and now his promise had been made in full, backed by the thunderous footsteps of thousands of soldiers. These soldiers of the faith, of the Dynasty, equipped and trained by Russian instructors, sought to preserve the culture and traditions of the Iranian people while ousting those who defiled the offices of His Majesty. For weeks they had been marching under the looming peaks of the Caucasus, territories once part of the greater Persian Empire, with determination and steadfastness, ready to kill all those who opposed their God sanctioned ruler.

Placing down his binoculars, the Shah quickly summoned an aide de camp who rode up on his own mount, clad in a surplus Russian Uniform, the uniform of this 'New Model Army.'

"My subject, bring word to the generals that we continue south and east, to Rasht. That is where our first step in erasing this scum shall un-fold."

Without a word the lowly aide rode off, mingling in between the ranks of marching soldiers to find those who he seeked while the Shah, with a smile on his smooth, clean shaven face, gazed towards the shimmering Caspian Sea now a blistering red haze in the morning light.

Terhan, Iran
Houses of Parliament

"It is with great distress that I bring such news that has come to me these hours past!" delcared a young revolutionary at the bottom of the hall in which his fellow constituents sat. "This past morning, with the rising of the sun, the Shah, once held in the lands of Russia, has returned with an army of many thousands intent on re-taking the throne."

A chorus of shouts, cries and curses arose from those present. After all, the country was in chaos. Its armies in the north were poorly prepared for such a struggle, while soldiers around the nation deserted and rebelled with increasing tenacity while the treasury remained empty as economic functions shut down and refugees clogged the streets.

"We must flee to Esfahan!" shouted one deputy.

"No we must stand and fight!" protested another.

"The Shah cannot be allowed to return to power. For the sake of the revolution!" cried one more.

Soon the creeds and calls overwhealmed the assembly, each man debating with three others, why his course of action was greater than the other's. This arguing continued for a time with no one strong enough, or with enough authority to stop such rabble. But, as the afternoon heat settled in, a recess was finally called and the Deputies of the new government filed out of the building and to their homes, unsure as to what the future lay in store for them as the red sands blew with greater strength.

OCC: I think this post properly sets the stage for what's to come.

Sukiaida

24-03-2006, 02:19

(OOC: So this is before 1910 stuff that RUssia did. Well hope ya have good luck.)

Franberry

24-03-2006, 02:25

Telegram to the office of the President of the United States of America, via the Argentinian Embassy in Washington D.C.

To: The United States of America

I ask that both our countries take a step back from insanity. If you wish to remove your assets, please do so peacefully, do not send troops. What you cannot take, factories, banks, heavy machinery, the Argentinian goverment will compensate with cash and goods. We will call off our foreign allies if you accept this proposition. Again, if you are sending soldiers, please call them back, we will compensate whatever you cannot take. We assume that, in banks for example, property of Argentinian citizens shall be given back. We hope you accept this, adn that we will be able to put this nasty episoide behind us.

signed,

José Figueroa Alcorta,
Presidenté de la Nación
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To: Our allies

We ask our allies to stay out of our diplomatic scuffle with the US. We will call on you if nessesary, but if the US accepts our propocion, it will not be needed.

signed,

José Figueroa Alcorta,
Presidenté de la Nación

Naktan

24-03-2006, 03:06

To: The United States of America

I ask that both our countries take a step back from insanity. If you wish to remove your assets, please do so peacefully, do not send troops. What you cannot take, factories, banks, heavy machinery, the Argentinian goverment will compensate with cash and goods. We will call off our foreign allies if you accept this proposition. Again, if you are sending soldiers, please call them back, we will compensate whatever you cannot take. We assume that, in banks for example, property of Argentinian citizens shall be given back. We hope you accept this, adn that we will be able to put this nasty episoide behind us.

signed,

José Figueroa Alcorta,
Presidenté de la Nación

To President José Figueroa Alcorta:

We must respectfully maintain the claims to the facilities and investments in all American territories. Our troops are being sent to secure those interests, just as much as has been done in Nicaragua and Cuba. We maintain these interests and we certainly pledge to maintain our troops on these properties.

As far as payment and cash goods, those are business properties which the US government maintains no claim over, except for their protection. We respectfully request that you permit this, as much as your government had accepted this in 1890.

Philander C. Knox
Secretary of State

Voxio

24-03-2006, 06:21

IC:
To: Kaiser Wilhelm II of the Grand German Empire
From Mehmed V of the Sublime Porte

It is time for The Porte to step away from it xenephobia towards the European nations. I would like to extend my hand in friendship towards your great nation. You have what is possibly the greatest military on this earth, so I call for your help. I would like to enlist the help of the German military officials to build me a new and modern Turkish military.

We await your reply.

Elite Battle Hordes

24-03-2006, 08:05

Dear Mehmed V,

Germany will lend you the requested aid immediately.

Sincerely,

Kaiser Wilhelm II

OOC: So, everyone coming to an agreement about this Monroe Doctrine issue?

Relative Liberty

24-03-2006, 15:24

An alliance between France and Argentina - while respectable - does not serve in the greater interest of the people of the Americas. We must vehemently protest this call, seeing as it is part of our obligation to ensure the safety of the American continents for all Americans.

We respect the position of our European friends across the ocean, seeking to secure better footholds on the affairs of the world. However, we feel that the situation in Europe would become to volatile and thus suck the American people into a conflict there, and as much as we do not wish to become entangled in European affairs, we request that you do not seek to entangle yourselves in American affairs. There are no interests in America that would better serve your country, save the territories that you currently possess. Your government shouldn't make such hasty actions in the Americas, to make formal alliances with any American state.

Therefore, we implore your government to terminate this alliance between your two states.
The government of France has no intention to end our good relations with Argentina, nor have we any intention to let Amercian policy dictate French actions. The Republic of France is a sovereign nation, an independent nation, and we will not have the Unites States of America trying to lord any European power around. We are quite capable of making our own minds up, and do not require your assistance in deciding our foreign policy.

That said, we are going to continue with our trade agreement with the nation of Argentina, and we ask that the United States of America respects our decision, for the good of all. We also would like to remind you that the Republic of France has not yet entered a formal alliance with Argentina, as this is still being discussed by the government, and the only contact with Argentina hitherto is a trade agreement.

Franberry

24-03-2006, 15:36

Telegram to the United States of America
To: The United States of America

We hope that you can remove your troops as fast as possible, an extended American military presesnse will not be accepted. We ask that some sort of plan for the US assests to be withdrawn and/or exchanged for money/goods or for some other sort of method. We wish to keep this as peaceful as possible, and hope that one day our nations will be capable of getting over this fiasco, and enjoy good relations.

signed,

José Figueroa Alcorta,
Presidenté de la Nación

Franberry

24-03-2006, 15:49

To: The French Republic

We hope that our current agreement shall continue. The 75mm's are very much liked by our artillerymen. We offer an invitation for you to send a delegation to discuss an alliance. The US problem seems to be under control, do not worry.

signed,

José Figueroa Alcorta,
Presidenté de la Nación

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To: Kaiser Willehm II

Our military is experimenting with aeroplanes, and we would like to accurime more aircraft for experiments. We would like to purchase 10 Rumpler Taube's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rumpler_Taube) to be able to continue our experiments. The US problem seems to be under control, do not worry.

signed,

José Figueroa Alcorta,
Presidenté de la Nación

Relative Liberty

24-03-2006, 15:55

Franberry

24-03-2006, 15:57

We are happy that you are pleased with the cannon delivered, and we assure you that the second shipment will be arriving shortly. On board will be a delegation, consisting of our foreign minister Stéphen Pichon and his staff.
Thank you for sending both the cannons and, most importantly, the representatives of your republic.

(OOC:you want to RP the arrival? or shoudl I? It would be simmilar to that of the Japanese, its a few pages back)

Relative Liberty

24-03-2006, 15:59

OOC: You can do it.

Franberry

24-03-2006, 16:22

The French ship sailed up the Rio de La Plata, towards Buenos Aires. She was escolted by a small flotilla of Argentinian gunboats. The President, important citizens, buissness men, and whoever was in or near the docks, came to see the event. The French ship came into the dock, where it dropped anchors, and stopped. An elaborately decorated walkway was put between the ship and the dock. A carpet was streched from the end of the walkway, to the steps of a podium, where the President accompained by other dignitaries, stood. After having experience with the Japanese arrival, much more police were on the scene this time, and the crowd was pushed back. This allowed for a band, and twice as many Granaderos as last time. Everyone waits eagerly for the French to appear, the band has orders to start playing the La Marseillaise as soon as the first Frenchman appears.

Relative Liberty

24-03-2006, 16:49

''Renoir,'' said Pichon to the man to his right, as they walked ashore, ''what's you first impression?''
''The natives seem frienly enough,'' Renoir joked.
''They're playing the Marseillaise, they've got a number of the presidential guardsmen here to greet us and the crowd doesn't look as though they were forced here. All in all, I'd say things point to a satisfying meeting.''
''My thoughts exactly,'' replied Stéphen.
''The 175 artillery pieces arrived with the same boat as we did, mind you, and according to the agreement French troops will receive trainng in alpine warfare. This will come in handy, should the European crisis escalate into a war. What we need now is to make sure that we do not loose Argentina before that training is done, and it wouldn't hurt if the president could be persuaded to give us exclusive trading rights as well.''
The five men, Stéphen, Renoir and the others, walked up to the podium, where they greeted the president and declared that this was indeed a fine day for both countries, and how this marked the beginning of a new era for both their nations.
Diplomacy, thought Renoir quietly, is the art of saying nothing with as many words as possible. Stéphen would not agree of course, but as of today he had not been able to convince Renoir that he was wrong.

Naktan

24-03-2006, 16:55

The government of France has no intention to end our good relations with Argentina, nor have we any intention to let Amercian policy dictate French actions. The Republic of France is a sovereign nation, an independent nation, and we will not have the Unites States of America trying to lord any European power around. We are quite capable of making our own minds up, and do not require your assistance in deciding our foreign policy.

That said, we are going to continue with our trade agreement with the nation of Argentina, and we ask that the United States of America respects our decision, for the good of all. We also would like to remind you that the Republic of France has not yet entered a formal alliance with Argentina, as this is still being discussed by the government, and the only contact with Argentina hitherto is a trade agreement.

[ooc: Argentina said that you were in an alliance...]

To France:

We apologize for the lack of comprehension in the matters concerning French policy, and we further applaud efforts to open trade with the Americas.

Concerning the sovereignty of France, we believe that it is not right for the United States to be poking at France's dependencies and accepting their alliances, simply because it is our right to do so. We respect France's influence and protectorship of their colonies and dependencies in the regions where they occur. Likewise, we ask that you respect our influence and protectorship of all non-European territories in America. It is our sovereign right to protect the interests of all Americans, and that some renegade states may wish to make foreign alliances would too entangling for the interests of all Americans.

Already, this state in Argentina has invited foreign troops onto their soil, and we fear that these invitations may lead to an exploitation of by those foreign nations in those regions, and thus we feel a grave need to protect ouur interests there. As much as we would not dare to send US troops for training inn your African or Asian protectorates, we request that you acknowledge our right of protectorship over the Americas, as has been the case for nearly an entire century.

With that in mind, French goods are always welcome in the interests of all Americans.

[TO ARGENTINA]:

Your state had invited foreign troops for practice on American soil, and you decline our obligation to protect our interests in Argentina? This is hypocritical and most absurd. We will maintain our presence in our protected spheres, as it is in the interests of all Americans to perform these services for all Americans.

Franberry

24-03-2006, 17:09

(OOC: I got confused)

Telegram to the United States of America

We are not withdrawign this invitation. We are merely saying that we would like you to withdraw theses troops as soon as possible. We await your response on the propositions we offered you in our last telegram

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"Here they come" The President said to his aide, Manuel
"Yes sir, they do seem content" Manuel said
"Hopefully so, I hope that the alliance goes through, all this nonsense with the United States worries me."
"It seems to have passed it's climax"
"Correctly so"
The Frenchmen aproached, and the Argentinians shook hands with them, and greeted them warmly. The President took the stage, were he made a little speech. He then gave the floor to the Frenchmen, who made a speech as well. As the crowd cheered, waving their tricoulours(ooc: spelling?) in the air, the President turned to the French, and gestured towards the automobiles.

Sukiaida

24-03-2006, 19:02

The RUssian trade ships looked tired as they followed after the French ones. Their ship captains didn't even have a diplomat. The Russian trade agreement was just that, simple trade.

Naktan

24-03-2006, 22:32

[ooc: all this nonsense with Argentina worries me...and it's tricoulour]

[TELEGRAM TO ARGENTINA]:

We do not even know why it so concerns Argentina why American interests should be expanded to include foreign powers. All of this entanglement is becoming dangerous for your country, and upon reviewing the danger, if we feel that it is necessary to send troops to protect our interests in America, then we shall do that. No decision of yours can alter that choice. We are intent on maintaining the status quo that has long existed and long profited all Americans, while the powers in Europe and Asia battered against each other.

[ooc: my troops haven't arrived in force yet...they'll be arriving today though...]

Franberry

24-03-2006, 22:54

[ooc: all this nonsense with Argentina worries me...and it's tricoulour]

(OOC: Thanks, and yeah, I hope we can solve this)

To: The United States of America

I wish that we can reach a diplomatic solution to this problem. There is no need to send troops, as your interests are in no military danger. Might I ask what sparked this assumption? We still wish to maintain trade relations to the USA, and do not wish for this to escalate.

Sukiaida

24-03-2006, 23:17

As RUssia appears to be the only TRUE neutral in this discussion, would Argentina and the United States wish for a mediation such as Russia and Japan enjoyed from the United States 6 years ago?

Naktan

25-03-2006, 00:19

[TELEGRAM TO ARGENTINA]:

The fact that this state invited non-American powers into a form of military alliance and furthermore innvited those nations to conduct exercises on their territory is most alarming, and we see a serious and imminent threat to all American interests in America. And furthermore, it is the interests that we protect, and therefore that should not be of your concern, because in effect we are also defending your interests in defending our interests.

We will consider opening dialogues between your government and ours, but we maintain our right to deploy troops in the interest of all Americans.

Elite Battle Hordes

25-03-2006, 00:32

Dear President José Figueroa Alcorta,

Germany is happy to sell you 10 Rumpler Taube's, we hope they will prove most useful to you.

Sincerely,

Kaiser Wilhelm II

OOC: Yeah, something has to be done about the Mondroe Doctrine issue. Might I suggest all those who have alliances with Argentina downgrade to more of a pledge of support role? That is, Argentina (or the country that is "allied" with it) is attacked, the other country will support it with supplies; food, guns, etcetera. So no troops or fleets of European powers would actually enter the Americas... ever.

Franberry

25-03-2006, 00:40

To: The United States of America

Very well then, we see your point. Although foreign troops would not be in urban areas, except for unloading/loading onto ships, we will allow you to send troops to Argentina to protect your interests. We hope that theses troops shall be withdrawn over time. We will allow 5,000 troops max.

signed,

José Figueroa Alcorta,
Presidenté de la Nación

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To: Kaiser Willhem II

We thank you for the airplanes, they are being used to conduct bombing tests. We hope that our countries will countinue this friendship. Could Germany build some ships for us, or provide experts that could help us build adequate shipyards? It is alright if you wish to keep them there, to build ships in your arms race. Although Argentina does not want to see this arms race happen, we do not wish to meddle.

signed,

José Figueroa Alcorta,
Presidenté de la Nación

(OOC: we like our agreements the way they are, if the US wants to protect its interests, so be it. But they will not dictate our foreign policy)

Sukiaida

25-03-2006, 00:44

(OCC: MWAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! Of course if they send in the army they sure as hell can tell you, your foreign policy. MWHAHAHAHAHAHAAH!!! THat's the beauty of it all.)

Franberry

25-03-2006, 00:45

(OOC: Just watch me :P)

Sukiaida

25-03-2006, 00:46

(Well that's what we're here for.)

Franberry

25-03-2006, 00:46

(Well that's what we're here for.)
(OOC: Get some pocorn)

Haneastic

25-03-2006, 00:49

King Alfonso XIII today unveiled his plans to modernize Spain. "Many of us see us as backward, and we rely on farming for most of our industry. This must be changed. We must build new industries and become a world power once more"

Koryan

25-03-2006, 02:39

OOC: Yeah, something has to be done about the Mondroe Doctrine issue. Might I suggest all those who have alliances with Argentina downgrade to more of a pledge of support role? That is, Argentina (or the country that is "allied" with it) is attacked, the other country will support it with supplies; food, guns, etcetera. So no troops or fleets of European powers would actually enter the Americas... ever.

OOC:
That's pretty much all Italy's relationship with Argentina is. You can call it whatever you want.

And where's Austria? He hasn't done a single IC action and we sort of need him.

IC:
Italy thanks Argentina for the gift and although we can not do the same (the US would have a fit), next time you have coffee remember that it was probably Irish immigrants that harvested it. ;)

The king has also allowed the Pope to form a 100-man Holy Army to defend holy sites in Rome. Soldiers are restricted to be inside Rome at all times while on duty and are considered a branch of the Italian Army, although they aren't actually used for war.

Lastly, following King Emmanuel III's plans to build a formidable Italian Military and the new sources of natural resources in America, plans to build a 500,000-man army have been put into place. The recruiting goal of 200,000 new soldiers is to be met by the end of the year (not counting training, organizing, etc.).

Naktan

25-03-2006, 02:56

[TELEGRAM TO ARGENTINA]:

We appreciate that Argentina recognizes in part the necessity to defend American interests in all of the Americas. That said, we will post as many men as needed to defend our interests. We will consider other proposals as they come and as needed.

Franberry

25-03-2006, 03:04

To be delivered to the office of His Majesty Emmanuel III
To: Emmanuel III

We hope that our countries will countinue this friendship. Could Italy build some ships for us, or provide experts that could help us build adequate shipyards? We would preffer help in building shipyards more, as it would make us independent from other nations. We are willing to trade money or goods for this.

signed,

José Figueroa Alcorta,
Presidenté de la Nación

(OOC: did u get my TG? I sent it, hopefuuly, to your NS account)

Koryan

25-03-2006, 03:12

To: The Ottoman Empire
From: The Kingdom of Italy
Italy would also like to pursue the lease of a portion of Tripoli's docks to house Italian vessels. Italy is willing to pay a large sum of money for a 10-year lease.

Secret IC to Ottoman Empire
Although the deal may seem to threaten Ottoman interests, the Italian Navy intends to use the port as a remote base and can easily defend Libya if your empire requires it. We assure you that Italy does not follow the imperialistic ways of it's European brethren and have no interests in obtaining Tripoli.

Koryan

25-03-2006, 03:22

To: Argentina

Although our navy may seem insignificant to the likings of the British Empire, Italy prides itself on it's naval capabilities. Italy will dispatch contractors to help advise in the construction. As for selling battleships, Italy can spare no ships or else we may fall behind in our naval race against the dual-monarchy. (I know they wouldn't just call it that but oh well). In this age of naval competition and technoligy, I'm sure you can find many individuals willing to sell you "certain plans" for the right price.

Lachenburg

25-03-2006, 03:34

July 14th, 1910

Rasht, Iran
City Square

"The Shah, he is coming!" screamed the bellman as he paced around town, helping the fleeing families of those who wished to escape the city at this dire moment. Since the announcement of the autocrat's return, the majority of northern Iran was abandoned as those who knew very well the reprecussions that were to be brought on them by their former leader, packed everything of value and fled south towards the capitol.

As one of the largest cities in Northern Iran, as well as being a major crossroads for trade, it was not hard to imagine that the wrath of this invading army would soon fall upon the city and all those who remained would surely perish. Thus, in only a matter of days, all those able and willing to leave left, leaving behind a small contingent of men and boys, armed with old rifles from the generations before them, along with the throngs of the elderly and sick.

With the noon day sun now fast approaching its highest peak, the glistening cannonry and rifles of the Russian-equipped army warned those remaining of the approach of the Shah. And, after locking their remaining loved ones into the cottages and huts around, the remaining men and boys quickly came to the center square of the town to make an army.

At the forefront of this force stood the bellman, nearly 6 feet in length and 2 feet in girth with a full black beard and piercing blue eyes. As a greatly respected among among the townsfolk, he naturally assumed command when the town officials, along with the Mayor, scampered to the south. Now, as he looked at each man, his eyes burned with a firey passion, his countence filled with determination.

"Townsman, we stand now to protect our homes and those we love. The Shah's army, although certainly potent, have not the same spirit that we do. We are the embodiement of courage. The embodiement of strength. So let us fight to the death if Allah wills and not give one inch of ground to those pigs above!"

A collection of chants and cheers were made by the assembled force of less than one hundred, greatly motivated by their leaders words.

"Now, we must fight togehter. Let not one man stray more than 20 paces from the other. Otherwise, we will be hunted down and killed like dogs. Naturally, the Shah will attempt to take the town from the north as it is the most expidient way to enter the city from that direction, so our stand is at the Northern gates and houses."

"If wounded, have the man next to you take your life and if he is dead, take your own for the Shah will kill all who resist his wake and in the most terrible, most painful way possible. I am sure Allah will understand in the after-life."

Lifting his rifle into the air, he let it fall towards the oncoming army.

"Quickly my friends, this way. There is not much time left!"

Each man huddled ahead through the narrow streets, knowing this day was their last.

Rasht, Iran
City Limits

"Your Highness." began an old general who sat behind the Shah upon his white stallion. "The soldiers will be in place momentarily. Your orders?"

Placing down his golden binoculars, the Shah simply turned and similed warmly.

"Have my cannons blast the outer perimeter. Then unleash the Calvary and have them mop up whatever is left."

"Yes, of course, Your Excellency." replied the General, riding off to inform his fellow constituents.

A few moments later....

A hollow lead ball, filled with powder, is placed into the barrel of an assembled battery of 7 howitzers, each dusty and worn from the journey. Upon the orders of the commander of the battery, the breech is closed, the fuse is placed into the barrel and a lanyard attached. Then, with the magical word of that same commander, the first shots of the counter-revolution were made.

FIRE!!

BOOM! BOOM!

A cascade of shells flew into the air at unparalleled speed, smashing into the outer limits of the center city with tremendous force, knocking over the structures that stood while kicking up dust all around.

Another round is loaded in each of the guns, its barrels adjusted for more accuracy as their previous shots flew too short. Again the same process with the same magic word at the end of it.

FIRE!!!

Another volley of shots, 7 strong, fall into the city, emitting a great roar that shook the very earth beneath the army while more buildings fell, more fires sprag from the earth and more dust was kicked up.

This samy process repeated several more times until the order was given to stop. By then, a detachment of Calvary, two hundred and fifty men strong, was assembled and ready, pistols and falchoins at the ready. Moments later the trumpet was blown in a small cadence signaling a slow trot.

Calvary advance!

That was the order and the Calvary did their best to satisfy it, moving at a slow to moderate pace somewhat in line, although it was obvious not enough drilling had been performed up in Russia. Then, as the force got closer and closer to the city, another cadence was blown, this one slightly faster than the first.

Calvary, full trot!

The pace quickened and the horses approached a near gallop, the city quickly approaching now. At 5000 yards, the last cadence was made, signaling a full charge.

Calvary, charge!

And charge they did. The first few shots from the defenders now erupted from the muzzles of old flintlock and precussion cap muskets, failing to knock over any of their quickly approaching advesaries. Within one hundred yards another volley of fire emerged from the remaining houses and burrows, again failing to halt the charging force. By then it was too late.

Although the dust was thick and the roads were narrow, the pistols and swords of the Calvary, along with the power of their galloping steeds, smashed through the defenders lines with little to no effort, cutting down dozens in only seconds. In such close quarters, a bloody melee ensued with defenders and attackers brutally smashing, bashing, stabbing and piercing each other with any object they could find.

On the side of the road, the bellman, covered in the blood of his comrades, knew not what to do. His efforts were in vain. The defense had all ready fallen apart. To his left, a lowly shoemaker was disembowled by the sabre of a surging Calvary officer, his intestines, now only a pinkish redish goo, fell to the floor as the soul shrieked in terror as two other enemies proceeded to hack his limbs and head to pieces.

Just then, as the bellman came to raise his rifle to fire one more shot, a falchion from an oncoming Calvaryman tore through his neck from behind, the pure force of the blow knocking the unfortunante leader to the ground where he lay helpless and dying. Then, with the cruelty of Satan himself, the same man who had struck him down approached, a grin on his grimy face and his weapon ready to cut once again.

"M...May the Gods have mercy on me." whsipered the bellman, pulling his rifle up to the base of his chin before pulling the trigger.

Click

The gun misfired, its shot failed to go off. After realizing the failure of his suicide attempt, the bellman simply wailed as his enemy stood over him and began to cut.

"You won't need these any more." sneered the evil little man as he tore the eyes of the bellman from his face, splatter warm red blood onto his green over coat.

"Oh and you wont need this neither." said the same man, slashing the nose from the bellman who only screamed in pain.

The same process continued for several minutes before the once buxom bellman was no more than a chopped piece of meat, his torso peeled open, organs removed and appendages cut and hanged from the buildings around the site of his death.

30 minutes after the battle had begun, the entire defending force was dead. Brutally mutalated by those who had attacked them. Then, with the same tenacious and statanic urges, the men went from house to house, pillaging all they could find while killing and raping all those they found. By late afternoon, the massacre was complete. The bodies of the dead, now sliced in every which way, hung from the battlements and homes, ever so silent. Meanwhile, the Shah, after viewing the carnage with delight, ordered the town to be set afire but not before he collected his own throng of women and went to meet his army, now marching to the east.

It was hoped such atrocities would be noted for the wrath of God had just been delievered and it would be a long time before the fires of doom subsided.

Elite Battle Hordes

25-03-2006, 04:15

OOC: Koryan, since I am having Germany try to establish good relations with both Italy and the Ottomans, I would appreciate it if you are sincere in your secret message to them. If you really want Libya and Rhodes I am sure you can purchase them instead of going the historical route. If you really wanted to attack someone I would suggest Greece. (Note to everyone: I, the OOC person, not the IC Germany, am suggesting Greece; Germany would do such a thing.)

Franberry, as Italy suggested there are plenty of nations that would be willing to lend their expertise. Seeing as how I had Germany abandon their naval buildup they should have plenty of experts that are out of jobs. Of course Germany doesn't want to lose such an important resource so we are still paying them to design; Germany just isn't building anything, so I could lend their talents to anyone who wants them.

Koryan

25-03-2006, 04:31

OOC: Don't worry, I am. I'm going the "unredeemed Italy" route (the imperialistic route didn't work out too good for Italy in RL). Maybe later me and the Ottomans can take over Greece (they ruled it until the 1820's).

Titicus

25-03-2006, 04:58

King Peter of Serbia wishes to create better ties with his neighbours, specifically Italy. The King has heard Italian banter that it is interested in Balkans affairs and Serbia can help. A combined move would perhaps be in both nations interests. Serbia is experienced and knows Balkan warfare, having defeated its neighbours in Bulgaria and Turkey before.

In addition, Serbia is willing to create better relations with Austria-Hungary. In exchange for partial control of Bosnia, Serbia is willing to help Austria in some of its immediate goals

All must note that Serbia is allied with out brothers in Russia who we hope to develop even closer ties as time goes along

Voxio

25-03-2006, 05:35

In a recent speech Mehmed V unveiled his plans to modernize The Empire. "It seems we are looked on as nothing more than the sick man of Europe and this will change. With German help I will turn our military into a grand force to rival that of any European power." He went on to discuss the domestic changes that will go into effect shortly "I will be implementing a Turkish Constitution to increase personal freedoms and Parliament which will draw membership across the Empire. In addition I hope to increase the connection of the empire through an increase in railway and telegraph lines."

To: The Kingdom of Italy
From: The Sublime Porte
Your proposal interests me greatly as it would ease my military burden on protecting my vast Empire. I will accept your offer, however, I believe the city should continue to be policed by my empire, as the Arab people would not likely allow a Christian nation to hold power over any land.
OOC: Does anybody have an idea of what a fair price for a 10-year lease on the city would be? I’ve never been good with the value of such things. I’d like to hear a couple opinions before I make a decision.

To: The Grand German Empire
From: The Sublime Porte
I thank you my German friend. I will meet with your diplomats and personally discuss what I foresee.
OOC: EBH, did you have any specific people in mind or should I use the leaders Germany sent a few years later in history?

Elite Battle Hordes

25-03-2006, 07:12

OOC: Voxio, I had no one specific in mind. If you want to say it is the same people Germany sent during WWI, go ahead.

Warta Endor

25-03-2006, 15:50

Ooc. I support Elite Battle Hordes Proposal that (if necessary) the alliances with Argentine are downgraded to a pledge of mutual support. And maybe I've missed a few things, so don't shoot me if I've forgotten something.

[TO EMPIRE OF JAPAN]:
An alliance between Japan and Argentina - while respectable - does not serve in the greater interest of the people of the Americas. We must vehemently protest this call, seeing as it is part of our obligation to ensure the safety of the American continents for all Americans.

Furthermore, we remind the Empire of Japan of their spheres reside in Asia and this alliance serves no greater interest to promote Japan's interests there. An alliance with Argentina would be forcibly entangling in American affairs, of which we cannot allow.

Therefore, we respectfully request that your Majesty Mutsuhito resolves to terminate this formal alliance between your two states.

Japan reassures the United States of America that it intends no harm in Argentina. Our sole purpose is to become friends. And thing friends do is helping each other when necessary. We promise that we will not use this alliance to interfere in American matters nor will we station a large permanent force in Argentina. But we wonder, why would Japanese interests be better maintained an pursued in Asia if we terminate our co-friendship treaty?

And as you say: Asia for the Asians, what about the Philippines? They are in Asia and they are far away from your home.

Prime Minister Katsura Tago

In Name of His Imperial Majesty, Emperor Meiji, Lord of Japan, Korea, Sakhalin, Formosa etc. etc.

OOC: Warta Endor, yes that includes them as well. I don't know how much they are worth in terms of 1910 money (or even modern money really) and I would rather not do so much research so lets just say that Germany is selling them for what they are worth.

ooc. I don’t know, but from my previous RP I still remember that the purchase of Indochina cost me 30 million dollars, which is about 1 billion USD today…
What about 10-20 million USD?

To Japan:
Are you stating that you have no furthur interests in upper China, then may we ask why you continue to hold onto Korea. Forgive us for being caustious about a peace agreement, but there are thousands of widows in RUssia who question peace with the Japanese as their husbands sit in sunken battleships, and their sons are buried near Port Arthur. Forgetting surprise attacks by your country (It was hailed by the US as a military wonder, though it would be repeated at Pearl Harbor. Strange really) when we were supposed to be at peace.

Currently I will be holding a banquet nearby. To show both our good will, it might be good for you to fill your embassy with an ambassader in St. Petersburg. THe ambassador left after the US had us form the treaty. It might be a good welcoming if he were to attend our banquet. To prevent any misunderstandings. Then maybe we may plant the seed of peace later. After the mourning mothers and wives have had time to quiet down.

To; Czar Nicholas II
From; Foreign Affairs, Tokyo

First of all, we will send our ambassador to Vladivostok, where he’ll board the Trans-Siberian express.

You speak of thousands of mourning Russian mothers, but what about the tens of thousand of Japanese mothers and fathers? They have also lost their sons, but they can see that it is better to forget the past and prevent a new massacre. You speak of an “unprovoked attack”, but about the seizure of the Japanese Leased Territories in China after the Sino-Japanese war? How would you react if we suddenly occupy Vladivostok?

But all these matters are history, and we must look to the future, a future of peace.

Prime Minister Katsura Tago

In Name of His Imperial Majesty, Emperor Meiji, Lord of Japan, Korea, Sakhalin Formosa etc. etc.

IMPORTANT OOC: MONDAY IS THE START OF 1911, 1 day is two in game months, so we have sunday free to catch up with things etc.

Franberry

25-03-2006, 17:00

(OOC: I like my alliances the way they are)

To: Germnay and Italy

We thank you both for your responses.
We have room to accomodate your naval experts. We would like to build shipyards large enough to build ships of crusier class. Now what we would like to build is an unspecified number of Destroyers.
Basic characteristics:

Length: 150 m
Displacement: 400 tons
Speed: 28 knots
Range 3,000 nautical miles (5,600 km)
Crew: 90
Fuel: Oil
Armament:

1 x 75mm gun;
3 x 45mm gun
6 x 360 mm torpedoes
6 x Heavy Machineguns
10 x Double-Barrelled Light Machinguns

We would also like to send out invitations for your troops to come train in Argentina's extreme climate.

signed,

José Figueroa Alcorta,
Presidenté de la Nación

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To: The Empire of Japan

We would like to invite Japanese troops to Argentina for a coperative traing program. The Japanese troops can share their battle experience with the Argentinian ones, while our troops can share their experiences of extreme climates with you.

signed,

José Figueroa Alcorta,
Presidenté de la Nación

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To: The Ottoman Empire

We of Argentina would like to send our warmest greetings. Although both of our countries are very separate, in economical and political means, we would like to fix this, and bring our countries together. We propose a trade agreement.

signed,

José Figueroa Alcorta,
Presidenté de la Nación

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The Minister of War has decleared a 15,000 man expansion of the army, bringing it up to 80,000. Railroad tracks are being built to the north and south, and the most traveled routes (east to west; to Chile; to Urugay; to Brazil) are being reinforced.

Pythogria

25-03-2006, 17:29

Chile expands it's army by 20,000, bringing it to 65,000.

To: France, Italy, and Gemany

From: Chile

Topic: Alliances

Text:

Chile is very interested in setting up trade routes and a full alliance with all of you. Do you accept?

Signed,
Arturo Allesandri Palma

Franberry

25-03-2006, 17:37

Pythogria

25-03-2006, 17:39

To: Chile

Topic: Visit

We invite your president for a state visit. Also, we would like your help in establishing a railroad across the andes.

signed,

José Figueroa Alcorta,
Presidenté de la Nación

We would like to accept your proposal. Our construction teams will arrive shortly to construct the Argentina-Chile Andes Railroad. Our President will be arriving via ship soon.

Warta Endor

25-03-2006, 18:21

To: The Empire of Japan

We would like to invite Japanese troops to Argentina for a coperative traing program. The Japanese troops can share their battle experience with the Argentinian ones, while our troops can share their experiences of extreme climates with you.

signed,

José Figueroa Alcorta,
Presidenté de la Nación

[Highly Encrypted]
To; José Figueroa Alcorta, via Military Attaché in Buenos Aires
From; Defense Ministery, Tokyo

We accept the proposal, but because of the continueing anger of the United States we think it is better to send small numbers of troops (battalion size, 1000 men at the most). Smaller numbers are harder to discover and are easier to supply.

Chief of Staff General Fukuoka

ooc. Hey Fran, weren't the Argentinian Elections in October? What was the result? (it's November, December now).

Franberry

25-03-2006, 18:35

ooc: hehe, yeah, the new president will take over in january

Super-Secret Encrypted Telegram, to be delivered by the hand of the Argentinian embassador in Japan to the hands of the Prime Minister

To: The Empire of Japan

Feel free to send as many men as you want, there are ways to carry them in secret. They shall have to come in small groups. It is quite easy to hide tens of thousands in the Patagonia and the southern areas of the country.

signed,

José Figueroa Alcorta,
Presidenté de la Nación

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To: Chile

We are currently undergoing a program to expand our navy, with the help of foreign experts, we will be building destroyers. If Chile wishes to send her shipbuilders, some of the destroyers will join your navy.

signed,

José Figueroa Alcorta,
Presidenté de la Nación

Pythogria

25-03-2006, 19:25

To: Argentina

We would be very interested in building each other's militaries, to secure our countries against enemies.

We accept.

Signed,
Arturo Allesandri Palma

Naktan

25-03-2006, 19:59

Sukiaida

25-03-2006, 20:18

To Japan:

Perhaps the future will be of peace.

The Japanese ambassador was invited to a service as he arrived at the coast of RUssia. Outside before he boarded the train, the sailors grinned with wide teeth as the new Dreadnaught fell into the sea. It's hull glistened lightly. "She'll be the Peitro. Named after our Czar Peter. This line of battleships will all have names of great czars. The Catherine was just finished recently." He grinned as he motioned towards the train. "Please follow me."

Warta Endor

25-03-2006, 20:29

[TO EMPIRE OF JAPAN]:

It so disturbs us that you should think that we arer maintaining a colony in the Philippines, when in truth, we are preparing the country for its government and independence from the world. Undoubtedly, it is taking a long time, since the people are slow to learn the mechanics of democracy. Furthermore, if you must insist, the Philippines are islands in the Pacific, of which there is little - if any - conjunction to Asia. They are islands in the Pacific, which the United States is forced to manage for its safety.

As for your alliance with Argentina, this is most unacceptable. Argentina is dangerously entangling your great empire into a most undesirable position, as much as your drag all Americans into a most undesirable position. What good can Argentina do for your Empire? Nothing. We must protect and save them from the dangers of the Asian and European powers, and your alliance is most threatening to the safety and security of the continent. Your acceptance of alliance is distracting you from other more important things, such as the maintenance of a stable China - in which many American lives were wasted recently in needless battles that Japan failed to prevent. You see how well the Americans have managed themselves for the past half-century? It is a marvel to the world, that they should learn from us in the manner to preserve and perpetuate this magnificent order.

In that regard, your alliance is danger to yourself and to Argentina, for it entangles your nation into a precarious position that neither Americans nor Japanese people would like to fall into. If you weren't so focusing on this trans-Pacific alliance, perhaps your nation could learn to manage your coast before gleefully seeking to cement your feet where you cannot stand.

To; The United States of America
From; Foreign Affairs, Tokyo

Yes, the America's have a very stable and peaceful history, save for the fact that the United States itself had a civil war which costed nearly 600000 lives. And yes, the Phillippines are a part of Asia. The Phillipines are far from safe, at least far from what we call safe. (ooc. Phillippine-American (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine-American_War) Argentina is very important for us, now being the major supplier of beef and other agricultural products.

We simply refuse to reply to your last comment, which is simply insulting.

But we view that we mustn't start a fight over such a simple matter. We are prepared to reduce our alliance with Argentina to a simple support alliance (ooc. kinda like Elite Battle Hordes proposed) if the United States likewise retreat from Asia (including the "Pacific" territories of the Phillippines).

Foreign Affairs, Tokyo

Warta Endor

25-03-2006, 20:39

The Japanese ambassador was invited to a service as he arrived at the coast of RUssia. Outside before he boarded the train, the sailors grinned with wide teeth as the new Dreadnaught fell into the sea. It's hull glistened lightly. "She'll be the Peitro. Named after our Czar Peter. This line of battleships will all have names of great czars. The Catherine was just finished recently." He grinned as he motioned towards the train. "Please follow me."

The Ambassador eyes the ships with interest. They were magnificent ships indeed. And a possible threat for Japan, but he hoped peace would indeed be the future. He followed the sailor and answered:

"Peter the Great was a great man, it's a good idea to name great ship after him. How long will it take exactly to arrive in St. Peterburg?"

Meanwhile...

A ordinary looking man boarded the liner to Italy. He went to his cabin, unpacked his clothes and went to the upper deck to see the last of Japan glide away. Italy would not be his final destination, he was supposed to go onward to Paris. What he would do there? Only a few people knew. His name? Koyasa Shimizu, Major Koyasa Shimizu.

Koryan

25-03-2006, 20:43

To: Chile
From: The Kingdom of Italy

Although we welcome trade routes and trade pacts, I'm afraid any other alliances would be one-sided due to the Monroe Docterine. I am interested in Chile's large lumber and agricultural resources to meet the demand of my growing military and industries. Italy would be happy to become a major trading partner with your nation. We would also like to invite your leaders to come visit Rome, one of the greatest cities on Earth.

OOC: My import deficit is going to be so huge...

Warta Endor

25-03-2006, 21:06

ooc. Export wine, spaghetti and olive oil! :cool:

Pythogria

25-03-2006, 21:09

Chile accepts your offer. Our President will be open to visit the great city of Rome within two weeks.

Elite Battle Hordes

25-03-2006, 21:20

Warta Endor

25-03-2006, 21:30

OOC: Warta, 20 million might be good, I don't really know. My postition for dealing with sales such as this in rp's has always been to assume that our IC leaders knew the right price. We would then just assume that you paid the right amount, whatever that might be. I don’t see why it is really necessary to know what that amount is; just assume Germany has slightly more money after the transaction, and Japan slightly less.

ooc. Okidoki then.

To; His Imperial Majesty Kaisar Wilhelm II, Berlin

We assume we have a deal. The money will be transferred to Germany. May our friendship last for ages!

Prime Minister Katsura Tago

*enclosure*

Per 1st. January, 1911, all Pacific and Asian territories of the German EMpire will be ceaded to the Empire of Japan. On this date Japanese forces will take over control of these territories.

[Encrypted Enclosure]

My dear friends, what do we do about the Argentinian Affair? Will we step down to the arrogan US or do we hold on to our course?

Naktan

25-03-2006, 21:55

[TO EMPIRE OF JAPAN]:

We cannot believe that the Empire of Japan would choose to attempt to blackmail the United States. The Philippines were given to our authority by the King of Spain. We now have the obligation to uphold our commitments there, as set forth by the treaty. Until the people of the Philippines have established a peaceful and stable government, our forces will remain there. On the other hand, the acceptance of an alliance with Argentina is mosst destabilizing to the entire region, especially with Argentina's invitation of non-American troops onto their territory.

Quite frankly, the Empire of Japan needs to recognize the American manifest over all the Americas, whether or not one part of those Americas becomes unsound in judgment in the management of what is best for all Americans. We would respectfully request that the Empire of Japan step back and relax into their sphere. In due time, we will step out from the Philippines, when the times are ready for their government.

Warta Endor

25-03-2006, 22:02

Naktan

25-03-2006, 22:11

[Highly Encrypted Message to Argentina]

Urgent! Urgent! Urgent!

We are under increasing pressure from the United States to terminate the alliance with you. We fear that a refusal to do so may result in war.

Prime Minister Katsura Tago

[OOC: The alliance alone won't start the war - when we "discover" Japanese troops in Argentina, that would...]

Titicus

25-03-2006, 22:40

Serbia hopes to reinforce its alliance with Russia through shared trade treaties and is willing to increase its support for Russia up all the way.

Serbian irregular forces have recently had clashes on the Bulgarian border with Bulgarian irregulars and tension exists between that nation and also Austria.

Serbia hopes that it can create better friendships with Italy and Romania though, seeing their interests in the Balkans.

Koryan

26-03-2006, 01:00

Serbian irregular forces have recently had clashes on the Bulgarian border with Bulgarian irregulars and tension exists between that nation and also Austria.

Serbia hopes that it can create better friendships with Italy and Romania though, seeing their interests in the Balkans.

Perhaps an alliance between Italy and Serbia against Austria-Hungary? To the west Austria holds the lands of Italians and to the east they hold an entire region of Serbs. Perhaps a little extra pressure could force them to submit?

Elite Battle Hordes

26-03-2006, 01:15

Sukiaida

26-03-2006, 01:19

Russia has always seen itself as the progressor of the Slav cause. Serbia, we would be honored to add to our trade agreements for a further greatness between us. Mostly at the moment we are looking for factory machinery, but whatever you have to offer will be alright.

"It will probably take a month. I am afraid that the single railroad here will be very cluttered, and we are trying to make it as smooth as possible for you. THe trickle of supplies is rather annoying. I hope in ten years we will have as much in the way of railroads as you yourself." He motioned towards the train that would carry the ambassador.

Koryan

26-03-2006, 01:23

OOC: Koryan, please don't make an alliance with Serbia. As soon as we get an A-H player I will do everything in Germany's power to get you those lands. I guarentee that if the A-H player is at all reasonable I will be able to get him to give them to you.

OOC: Just playing my cards here. If Austria follows through with my proposal (see my factbook) then we'll all be a happy triple alliance again.

Haneastic

26-03-2006, 01:53

Austria-Hungary has accepted the terms offered by Italy

Koryan

26-03-2006, 01:56

OOC: Sorry Serbia, the Italian-Austrian issue's over. The alliance offer's now void. Don't forget to keep watch on your people (you don't want them assassinating any archdukes, do you?)

Franberry

26-03-2006, 02:57

[Highly Encrypted Message to Argentina]

Urgent! Urgent! Urgent!

We are under increasing pressure from the United States to terminate the alliance with you. We fear that a refusal to do so may result in war.

Prime Minister Katsura Tago
(OOC: Oh yeah, because declaring war because someone else is letting some other guy train on his soil, very diplomatic and un-imperialistic. I suggest we all play nice, and the US butts out of this.)

[Highly Encrypted Message to Japan]

We hope that you stand by our side, your country does not seem like the type that will be bossed around. Argentina has many allies, and if the USA was foolish enough to declare war, she would find herself at war not only with Argentina, but many other countries, including major powers.

Pythogria

26-03-2006, 03:57

Chile has expanded it's military by 60,000 men.

Voxio

26-03-2006, 07:43

IC:
To: The Kingdom of Italy
From: The Sublime Porte

I would like to purchase from you the production rights for the Mannlicher-Carcano rifle.

Titicus

26-03-2006, 10:44

Voxio

26-03-2006, 11:00

OOC: ok, I take back that thing about the Bulgarians - I was thinking it was 1914ish.

Serbia has been forming a coalition with Bulgaria, Romania, and Greece to combat the Ottoman Empire and complete the nationalization of the Balkans
OOC:The correct coalition would be Serbia, Montenegro, Greece, and Bulgaria.

Guess I better watch out for you Titicus for the next couple weeks until 1912. Amirite?:rolleyes:

Relative Liberty

26-03-2006, 14:02

(OOC: I got confused)

-------------------------
"Here they come" The President said to his aide, Manuel
"Yes sir, they do seem content" Manuel said
"Hopefully so, I hope that the alliance goes through, all this nonsense with the United States worries me."
"It seems to have passed it's climax"
"Correctly so"
The Frenchmen aproached, and the Argentinians shook hands with them, and greeted them warmly. The President took the stage, were he made a little speech. He then gave the floor to the Frenchmen, who made a speech as well. As the crowd cheered, waving their tricoulours(ooc: spelling?) in the air, the President turned to the French, and gestured towards the automobiles.The French joined them, and the cars drove off. Pichon was thinking to himself, about his mission here and the future of France. The navy buildup was proceeding according to plans, as two new dreadnoughts had been launched (see factbook for more information), and the army would soon follow.
Yet he wondered what interest the President might have in South America. Training soldiers in alpine warfare was nothing that France would need. At least, that was what Pichon thought. In reality, mountain warfare would soon become an all to real part of French life.

Franberry

26-03-2006, 15:53

The French joined them, and the cars drove off. Pichon was thinking to himself, about his mission here and the future of France. The navy buildup was proceeding according to plans, as two new dreadnoughts had been launched (see factbook for more information), and the army would soon follow.
Yet he wondered what interest the President might have in South America. Training soldiers in alpine warfare was nothing that France would need. At least, that was what Pichon thought. In reality, mountain warfare would soon become an all to real part of French life.
They arrived at the Casa Rosada. The President and his adies got out of the first cars, and the French delegation out of the others. They walked up the stairs and into the building. It was beautifully decorated, beffiting a European Palace. The men walked up the stairs, and after taking many turns, arrived at a large meeting room. Everyone sat down, and the President,still standing, said:
"My French friends, first, welcome! and secondly, let us being the negotiations!"

(OOC: The conservatives won the election, the current President has to set down cuz his terms are over, but a fellow party member will take over)

Koryan

26-03-2006, 17:12

To: The Kingdom of Italy
From: The Sublime Porte

I would like to purchase from you the production rights for the Mannlicher-Carcano rifle.

Ah, the Lee Harvey Oswald gun. Are you sure you want production rights? Italy is super-industrializing and could probably pop out more guns to sell to you than you could make yourself.

Naktan

26-03-2006, 19:05

The United States has sent 2000 troops across into Mexico, where recent roughing activities have caused serious complications on American soil. We are currently working with the Mexican president to come to a conclusion about this roughing. Furthermore, the Marines have increased their presence in Nicaragua, due to increased hostility by rebels against the Nicaraguan government; they are considered anti-American and will not be tolerated. 2000 Marines have been sent to deal with the rebels.

Titicus

27-03-2006, 02:07

YEah, well if Serbia could do it in real life, why not here? Kinda makes sense to try. And yes, Montenegro - and if I could get Romania, even better!

Naktan

27-03-2006, 02:27

[ooc: I thought that it was 1911...]

Elite Battle Hordes

27-03-2006, 02:28

OOC: I would advise against Serbia attacking the Ottomans, seeing as how Austria-Hungary, Italy, and Germany are all allied with them. Historically Russia didn't feel ready to get into a war at this point so I wouldn't necessarily count on their help.

Haneastic

27-03-2006, 02:30

It is. Serbia's factbook is wrong cause the Balkna War hasn't been fought

Franberry

27-03-2006, 02:32

[ooc: I thought that it was 1911...]
(OOC: I belive that happens tommorow)

Naktan

27-03-2006, 02:50

[ooc: it's 200 GMT, so I guess it's HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! :)]

Elite Battle Hordes

27-03-2006, 03:47

Germany is auctioning off the following ships:

Rundown Cruisers: 5 (1887-1896)
Seeadler
Condor
Gefion
Greif
Hela

Coastal Defense Ships: 8
Siegfried Class (3,700 tons, 3 x 24 cm guns)
SMS Siegfried, 1889
SMS Beowulf, 1890
SMS Frithjof, 1892
SMS Heimdall, 1892 Sold
SMS Hildebrand, 1892 Sold
SMS Hagen, 1893 Sold
Odin Class (4,250 tons, 3 x 24 cm guns)
SMS Odin, 1894 Sold
SMS Ägir, 1895 Sold

To make up for the loss in naval power by selling these ships Germany is building two new battlecruisers and 100 minehunters.

OOC: The rundown cruisers are pretty crappy but some of the coastal defense ships aren't too bad. The Ägir was actually removed from its coastal defense role and back into action at the start of WWI until 1916. The auction price for all the ships is starting at their scrap value. Although to Germany and other powers that can build nice new ships the rundown cruisers are actually of more value as scrap (or relagated to other civilian duties), to certain nations (Argentina, Ottoman Empire, etc.) they might be worth buying.

Voxio

27-03-2006, 05:59

Ah, the Lee Harvey Oswald gun. Are you sure you want production rights? Italy is super-industrializing and could probably pop out more guns to sell to you than you could make yourself.OOC:
I would prefer to get the production rights since I don't want my nation's money to go to other nations en masse and with Italy's growing military you'll need them for yourself.

I do know that I want that gun, I've fired it and a couple of those old bolt action rifles and I would say that the Mannlicher-Carcano was the best of the three.

YEah, well if Serbia could do it in real life, why not here? Kinda makes sense to try. And yes, Montenegro - and if I could get Romania, even better!
Ah, I did not say Serbia could not start a war; just that Romania didn't become involved. Since there is no Romanian player you can't exactly bend them to your will. And since there have been little changes in the Balkans that would cause Romania to join you, you can't really say yet that they are working to fight me.

IC:
Inspired by the Anglo-Persian Oil Company, a new corporation known as the Turkish Oil Company has acquired the rights to search for and drill for oil in Mesopotamia.

To: The Grand German Empire
From: The Sublime Porte

We would be interested in the purchase of the following ships.
SMS Hagen
Odin Class
SMS Odin
SMS Ägir

Titicus

27-03-2006, 06:11

hey, I said I edited the Serbian factbook.

And unless I missed something - the Ottoman Empire was not allied with Germany and Austria until World War I started. From what I read, they were just as close to Britain at the time, then Britain alienated them just before WWI. If this has changed, just tell me.

And IRL Russia did support Serbia in winning the Balkans war of 1912-13

Elite Battle Hordes

27-03-2006, 06:48

OOC: Titicus, they might have supported them, but would they declare war on the Ottomans if that meant war with Germany, Italy, and Austria-Hungary?

Voxio, what are you willing to pay, or should we just assume that our IC negotiators know what the right price is as I am so fond of doing. Also, check your factbook, I posted something important in there.

Voxio

27-03-2006, 07:41

Voxio, what are you willing to pay, or should we just assume that our IC negotiators know what the right price is as I am so fond of doing.
The second option makes everything more fun if you ask me. Gets rid of little details that we wouldn't be able to compare exactly anyways.

And unless I missed something - the Ottoman Empire was not allied with Germany and Austria until World War I started. From what I read, they were just as close to Britain at the time, then Britain alienated them just before WWI. If this has changed, just tell me.
It wasn't, but I've already begun growing closer to those nattion IC. Except Austria, but I will be working on that.

Elite Battle Hordes

27-03-2006, 07:57

OOC: Ok, we will do it that way then.

IC: Germany announces the sale of the ships SMS Hagen, SMS Odin, and SMS Ägir to the Ottoman Empire.

Warta Endor

27-03-2006, 20:08

[ooc: it's 200 GMT, so I guess it's HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! :)]

ooc. The same! Let's hope peace will be maintained this year;)

Relative Liberty

27-03-2006, 20:19

They arrived at the Casa Rosada. The President and his adies got out of the first cars, and the French delegation out of the others. They walked up the stairs and into the building. It was beautifully decorated, beffiting a European Palace. The men walked up the stairs, and after taking many turns, arrived at a large meeting room. Everyone sat down, and the President,still standing, said:
"My French friends, first, welcome! and secondly, let us being the negotiations!"

(OOC: The conservatives won the election, the current President has to set down cuz his terms are over, but a fellow party member will take over)
OOC: Sorry 'bout being so slow to reply.

IC:
''We are grateful to be here,'' assured Pichon as he took a seat and motioned to Renoir to do the same.
''You have received our offer before, mister president,'' he continued and Renoir opened his suitcase to put a sheet of paper on the presiden'ts desk.
''France will provide you with cannon, ammunition and will train your men to use them. In exchange we ask that French troops will be trained to wage war in mountainous terrain by your officers,'' said Renoir.
''I believe the offer was 175 cannon in advance, and training and ammunition afterwards,'' continued Pichon.
''That is correct, sir,'' confirmed Renoir.
''As said, mister president, all that is left is your signature, then this mutually beneficent cooperation between our two countries can commence.''
''Do not worry about the USA, mistr president,'' said Renoir.
''They woll not involve themselves in this affair, they would not dare meddle in the affairs of European powers,'' he assured, ''at most they will object, which they already have, but nothing more.''

Sukiaida

27-03-2006, 20:23

Polish Newspaper's start to filter into Bovarian towns over the border, it seems to be a headline.

Crisis in Moscow

This newspaper has recenty found that an accident has occured in Moscow. THe entire royal family has remained tight lipped, though it seems that the entire government has gone under a blackout. No one knows what has occured. It has come to our attention that it may have to do with the heir to the Romanov throne, but we are being told very little at this moment.

Other rumors seem to be filtering from the Polish border, Russian control over that land less than in deeper Russia. The Polish soldiers normally kept as a border patrol seem to be in a tizzy when watched from Germany.

(THis means that unless Germany wishes to share this information with the world, only the German player would be aware of this.)

Naktan

27-03-2006, 22:23

''They woll not involve themselves in this affair, they would not dare meddle in the affairs of European powers,'' he assured, ''at most they will object, which they already have, but nothing more.''

[ooc: the USA would not meddle in European affairs except that already this blatantly meddles in American affairs :)]

Franberry

27-03-2006, 22:52

To: Germany
From: Argentina

Argentina would be very interested in purchasing some of your warships. Particularly the SMS Heimdall and SMS Hildebrand. We also ask that Germany stand by Argentina, as she has promised to do. Germany does not seem to us like the nation that can be bossed around by a far-away country.

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To: England
From: Argentina

I think that it will be beneficial for both our countries to establish an alliance. You shall recive improved trade benefits, on the level with our allies.

--------------------------------------------

Guns of massive calibre are being produced in the outskirts of Rosario, they may have something to do with the costal fortifications that are being built along the coast.

---------------------------------
"I agree with your proposal, but I hope we can take this further. In exchange for trade benefits, and jungle training, we hope that we can establish a mutual-defence pact. Of course, if Argentina declares war on another nation, we do not expect France to come to our aid, and the same goes for you. However, if a foreing power does declare war or invade us, the other nation would come to help the other." The President said
"We feel this wil be benficial for both our nations." Added the Presidents aide.
"Yes, what do you think of our proposal?"

Sukiaida

27-03-2006, 22:58

(OOC: By the way, the Triple Entente of RUssia, England, and France was signed in 1907. THat means that Argentina by making a formal alliance with France is imbibing on the Triple Entente and needs to be supported by all three powers, not just one. Russia has already stated it doesn't wish to get into political affairs of America. That means Great Britain is the tie breaker. If GB doesn't want to then France will have to resind it's alliance, or be in danger of losing it's two greatest allies and have to fight Germany alone again. Aka France will not endager it's treaty with Russia or Great Britain for Argentina. THat would be just too unrealisitic. You'd have riots in the streets of Paris.)

Jamminberry

27-03-2006, 23:28

(OOC: I'm GB in case you didn't know.)

The Prime Minister looked through the window, over the streets of London "We need to take some action over the Argentina Affair. It may be beneficial to support France's decision this time, seeing as this alliance is important to both of us. Let them know we're on their side."

Telegram to Argentina:
We would like to seek alliance with you.

Telegram to France:
We are supportive of your alliance to Argentina. Please let us know your next move.

Franberry

27-03-2006, 23:38

Telegram to Great Britian

To: Great Britian
From: Argentina

We are happy that you have enetred this alliance with us. We know that you still have to resolve the problems within the Entente, but we hope that you can resolve this quickly. Godspeed!

Elite Battle Hordes

28-03-2006, 00:08

To: Argentina
From: Germany

We are glad you are interested in purchasing the SMS Heimdall and Hildebrand, and if it comes down to it it seems the whole of Europe will support you.

Germany's spies in Russia on put on high alert for any trickery that might be afoot. The Kaiser also sends a notice to Italy, Austria-Hungary, and the Ottoman Empire that something seems to be up in Russia.

OOC: Franberry, you want to purchase the ships the same way Voxio did; assume the IC characters know the right price?

Sukiaida

28-03-2006, 00:12

The spies bring back news, not of a mobilization, but of a tragedy in the royal family. Even the people are left in the dark, but rumors are flying throughout Russia that range from the death of the Czaravitch. TO the death of the Czarina, to the death of the entire royal family. Their is certaintly an emergency within the Czar's councel as Nicholas seems to be keeping to himself. No one knows what rumors may be true or not true. THe only fact is that Nicholas the II is alive, and keeping his cards close to his chest about what has happened.

THe RUssian Navy is all that seems to have been mobilized, though it seems that it's only actions are to hold manuevers in colder waters near Siberia.

Franberry

28-03-2006, 00:17

(OOC: I may not, but I'm sure they do)

To: Germany
From: Franberry

Thank you for letting us purchase these ships. We are gladly adding them to our fleet. We also invite German troops to hold manuvers in Argentinian lands, we feel that the op[portunities our climate offers would be very good for Germany.

Haneastic

28-03-2006, 00:35

Austria-Hungary has anounced the building of defensive fortifications along its borders with Russia, Serbia, and Montenegro, although it stresses that these are purely defensive, and does not mean anything in our relations with any of those countries

Voxio

28-03-2006, 00:38

IC:

To: The Grand German Empire
From: The Sublime Porte

We thank you for the ships, the will be put to use immediately along the The Aegan.

Elite Battle Hordes

28-03-2006, 00:53

Germany forwards the most recent information about the Czar to its allies.

To: Argentina
From: Germany

We will send 20,000 troops to Argentina to practice manuvers.

Franberry

28-03-2006, 00:56

Secret Telegram to Germany

To: Germany
From: Argentina

We welcome your troops with open arms. We would like to inquire about the recent events in Russia. What is going on there? Our spies in Europe are currently in transit.

Sukiaida

28-03-2006, 01:07

The Russian military posted in Warsaw looks towards the Austrian Hungarian border. It doesn't have permission to intervere with the defensive build up, but it also doesn't appear pleased as it goes on full alert. THe army calls all of it's men together, pulling them from leave to go on proper status.

Haneastic

28-03-2006, 01:23

Archduke Eugen strode into the room. "What's happened?" he asked.
"It appears as if the Russians have been placed on full alert, probably over the building of the fortifications" answered an aide.
"The last thing we need right now is a war with Russia", grumbled Eugen, "have our ambassador assure Nocholas that we mean to aggression"

To: Russia
From Austria-Hungary

We are alarmed by your forces having been placed on alert. We do not wish a war with you, and hope that this does not escalate further.

Yours Truly,
Freanz Joseph

Koryan

28-03-2006, 01:34

To the Ottoman Empire:
Designs and production rights will be sold to the Ottoman Empire. We do this in good faith and hope this doesn't prove to be an error in the future.

To the German Empire:
Italy is interested in the German weapons (I don't think Italy has any "modern" machine guns around this time) and wishes to purchase designs for Italian production. Also, although we're going on a spending overload and will probably have a 20-year debt by next year, we are interested in knowing if Germany will spare any advisors or experts for aid on building new Italian dreadnoughts. Having competed with the best of the best, German advisors are probably experts on the best technoligy avaliable, which we hope to equip our two ships in production with.

To Austria-Hungary:
Avoiding war with Russia whenever possible is recommended. However, if Serbia starts mobilizing, don't be afraid to call up your army and ignore any threats by Russia.

Sukiaida

28-03-2006, 01:36

Nicholas actually gets the telegram, looking at it with an odd sort of hum. He looks to have aged by at least 10 years already. "Whose on alert?" He asked with a strange look as he looked around. Certaintly the defensive network was a sign of defensive war, but then again it might not be. His telegraphs were not at their height right now, and to tell the truth he'd ordered them to be silent. This telegram simply got through by accident.

To: Austria-Hungary
From: Russia

Currently I have been under certain diress, and I had not known of your defensive building on our border. Though I must ask what kind of threat you feel that you must do so, but I have not mobilized the armies at all. I must ask what you are stating we are at full alert for? I shall send someone to investigate.

Sincerly Nicholas the II

THe 14th Army stood on alert, many of the RUssian infantry marching out with it's artillery as it moved towards the border. It stopped, the cavarly looking at the defenses being brought up. The Russians soldiers themselves started to dig, if a possible enemy was building defenses, so would they.

Elite Battle Hordes

28-03-2006, 01:55

Secret Telegram to Argentina

To: Argentina
From: Germany

It appears that at least one member of the Romanov Dynasty has passed. Although appearances can be deceiving, and the lack of response from Russia is troubling.

Response to Italy

To: Italy
From: Germany

We are happy to sell you the MG08 and lend the use of our naval experts.

Haneastic

28-03-2006, 01:56

To: Russia
From: Austria-Hungary

If you feel that this building of defensive fortifications creates an unnecessary strain on relations, we will discontinue our building of fortifications along our border with you

Sincerely,
Emperor Franza Joseph

OOC: Koryan, are you accpeting my proposal on the dreadnoughts I posted in your factbook? I'm not sure If you saw it or not, just thought I'd just make sure

Sukiaida

28-03-2006, 02:02

To Austria Hungary from 14th Army:

Due to the lack of communication, we do not know what you are doing to build defenses on your border. I have called this army to action to prevent any wanton destruction of Polish property and lives.

Haneastic

28-03-2006, 02:09

To: 14th Army
From: Austria-Hungary

Our defensive fortifications are being built merely for the purpose of creating a defended frontier, although we hope that you won't attack us in the near future

Sukiaida

28-03-2006, 02:24

To Austria Hungary:

How do we know that you are not using this as a jump off point for an invasion of Seriba or Poland?

Haneastic

28-03-2006, 02:45

To Russia:

If it would make you feel better, we will allow some of your military officers become observers in the Austro-Hungarian Army, and will be given frequent chances to TG your forces to assure them we will not attack you

Sukiaida

28-03-2006, 02:51

To Austria Hungary:

We believe one of our armies has become active, they have been told to stand down, and yet commended for their capabilities of staying ready. As for sending soldiers into your area to observe, we believe that would remain less than prudent.

Haneastic

28-03-2006, 02:56

To Russia:
Very well. May our two nations continue to have a peaceful history

OOC: so basically one of your armies was on alert, and has stood down, and that's it?

Sukiaida

28-03-2006, 03:04

OOC: Basically a general took his own initiative and put his army on alert. Yes, that's it. It could have got a dozen countries to go to war over a mistake though. THat's what makes crisis wonderful.

Franberry

28-03-2006, 03:17

"It seems the European crisis has passed"
"Yes, Mr.President"
"What worries me is the United States of America"
"Well, I dont think we should fear them, I mean, we got a lot of allies"
"Indeed, the British have already accepted, and the French seem like they will. All they have to do is vote for each other within the Entente"
"Yes, then the USA would not dare lay a finger on us"
"Haha, I hope so, although the USA has become increasingly interventionist"
"Do not worry Mr.President, leave that to your aides"

Warta Endor

28-03-2006, 10:14

ooc. Please reply GB

To; Office of Prime Minister Herbert Henry Asquith, London
From; Foreign Affairs, Tokyo

First of all the Emperor of Japan would like to greet the head of state of our greatest ally.

We would like to talk about the renewal (ooc. once every five years, officially in 1912) and possibly strengthen our Angol-Japanese Alliance. We would negotiate about trade and the purchase of British Arms and vessels. We also offer the recently acquired of New Guinea (save the Bismarck Archipelago) and Samoa to Great Britain. If possible the Japanese Minister of Foreign Affairs would like to visit Great Britain.

Blessings and Good Luck,

In Name of His Imperial Majesty, Emperor Hirohito, Lord of Japan, Korea, Formosa, Sakhalin etc. etc.

Prime Minister Katsura Tago

SIC.

After being warned by Naval HQ about Russian Naval Activity, the 2nd. Fleet moved North towards Wakkana. Patrols aomg the Kurrils would increase, as would patrols around Southern Sakhalin.

Sukiaida

28-03-2006, 17:17

THe Russian fleet looked at the Japanese fleet as it sailed on a parrellel course. A few flags were flown up. "Wireless down at moment. On Manuevers."

THe ships then turned as the captain of the ship let out one long angry sigh. "They always seem to want to follow us. It's so annoying that our fleet has to constantly deal with the Japanese flanking us. Well soon we'll hae a navy to rival hers." He grunted to himself.

The Russian newspapers tell the world what it's been worrying about for months. A RUssian month of mourning has become effective. THe RUssian press talks about an accident in Moscow, of the yougn Alexei incurring an injury that would have been a moderate issue would he have not been an invalid. It seems strange that that accident that the young Alexei incurred has been put into such detail, and yet that it seems to be stifly censored when in relation to the death of the Czarina. It seems as if someone put the lid on specifics.

Russia seems even more depressed than usual.

Elite Battle Hordes

28-03-2006, 20:19

OOC: The Czarina died? She is German, you know. Germany would be most upset that it was unable to attend her funeral, if there even was one...

Sukiaida

28-03-2006, 20:28

Warta Endor

28-03-2006, 21:51

OOC: Yes. Even if the Bolsheviks hadn't killed Alexei with the rest of the ROmanov's, his life was tenious at best. Any accident that was serious with a normal child would be deadly beyond hope with him do to his hymophelia. Which is what my alternate thing happened. The Czarina herself was rather unstable, the death of a son could have made her go over the edge. Rational and intelligent she may have been, but she was also unstable. Losing her youngest son could have brought overwhelming dispair. Which is what happened here. So.....

Alexei: Died from his hymophelia after an accident while touring with his father.
Czarina Alexandra (I believe was her name) Died from fall from balcony. Rumor in Royal palace is that it was suicide.

ooc. Oh shit, royal suicide;) Who's the heir now?

BTW, are you talking about my patrols or my fleet? My fleet just moved to a Northern Base (closer to the action), if you're talking about my fleet, you'd be in Japanese waters...which would greatly "annoy" the Japs on the ships :D

Japan sends it condoleances to the Czar after the announcement of the death of the Czarina and the heir. The Emperor himself wishes Russia and the Czar better luck in the future.

Prime Minister Katsura Tago, In Name of His Imperial Majesty, Emperor Meiji, Lord of Japan, Korea, Formosa, Sakhalin etc. etc.

Sukiaida

28-03-2006, 22:49

(The Patrols. And that would be the question. In truth it would be one of his daughters. He did have four after all. Which would have the rest of Europe plying for marraige to one of the little Czarina's.)

Jamminberry

28-03-2006, 23:02

To; Prime Minister Katsura Tago, Tokyo
From; British Foreign minister

Greetings to the esteemed Emperor. I hope this message finds him in good health.

Of course it is necessary to renew our alliance, and it would certainly be beneficial to both of us to strengthen our ties. It would please the United States to see this alliance fail, and given our present relations with them, it is not something we are interested in. It would be wonderful to enhance our trade, allowing us to be less dependent on the US, just in case. We appreciate your kind offer of New Guinea and Samoa, and will occupy them. The minister is welcome any time he wishes.

British Foreign Office

(ooc: couldn't find the name of the foreign minister in 1912)

Franberry

28-03-2006, 23:30

Telegram to Russia, to be delvivered via the embassy in St.Petersburg

To: Russia
From: Argentina

We have heard of the death of the Czarina. We feelt sadness upon hearing these news. We extend our feelings of sadness to the Russian people.

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Telegram to the English King, via the embassy in London

To: The office of His Majesty Edward II
From: Argentinian Ministry of Foreign Relations

We would like to invite His Majesty to Argentina. We would like to improve relations with England even further. This alliance is important and valuable to us, and very benefitial to all.

Haneastic

29-03-2006, 00:24

The Austro-Hungarian Empire sends its condolences to the Russian Royal Family

Elite Battle Hordes

29-03-2006, 01:02

Dearest Nicky,

My condolences for the loss of your beloved Alexandra and Alexei; may the angels guide their blessed spirits to the lord's bosom.

Sincerely yours,

Willy

OOC: Rasputin was too drunk to help, eh? Wouldn't Nicholas' advisers being urging him to remarry and have another son though?

Jamminberry

29-03-2006, 01:22

Telegram to Argentina

To: Argentinian Ministry of foreign relations.

The king would be glad to make an appearance in Argentina. You will be notified of his arrival within the month.

Franberry

29-03-2006, 01:26

"Mr.President, a new crisis has come"
"What? You cant give me more than a week after the US crisis passes, and now we have a new one?"
"Yes Mr.President, Bolivia and Paraguay have formed some sort of trade deal, our assests in the area are being threatened, Uruguay is thinking of joining this pact too."
"What? We rely on them for much of our labor, especially is construction. We cannot have our assests there be taken over! And what is this with Uruguay?"
"They're thinking of joining the pact with Bolivia and Paraguay"
"Mhm, ok, deploy 10,000 more troops to each one of our borders with them. Also, send some of our newer warships up the river to Paraguay, nothing hostile. Do you understand? Nothing hostile. If anyone one of those countries complains about the ships, move them back, if they complain about the troops, its a training exercise"

Franberry

29-03-2006, 01:27

Telegram to Great Britain

To: The office of His Majesty Edward II
From: Argentinian Ministry of Foreign Relations

We will welcome him with open arms. We await his arrival.

Elite Battle Hordes

29-03-2006, 04:11

To: Great Britain
From: Germany

Last year we ended our naval race against you. We hope this will result in better relations if not an alliance.

OOC: Because of the naval race the David Loyde George cabinet was split over the issue of going to war with Germany until the invasion of Belgium sealed the deal. I am hoping Britain will not get involved in (the potential) WWI in this rp. Another reason Britain wouldn't want to get involved is that WWI (and WWII) was largly responsible for the decline in its empire.

Sukiaida

29-03-2006, 21:03

OOC: Rasputin was known for healing him by hypnotism and that was just during his fits. This happened in an accident which Rasputin was never known for curing. Also Rasputin spent most of his time in the palace, this happened during a review of the army, so not near the palace. And yes that would be, but I haven't gotten to it yet.

IC: Nicholas sat in his office, his head aimed so he looked at his hands as he saw the two men standing there. One was dressed in a hamburg straight from Germany. THe other in full RUssian regalia. "Sir we understand that this is a trying time for you, but I must insist that it is for the throne that you find a "replacement" he tried to make the word not sound as harsh as it was. "And also we must stem the tide of the Duma. It's become much to powerful. They are attempting to bring the traditions of centuries down around our ears."

The man in the hamburg snuffed. "Tradition is fine as long as it doesn't get in the way of progress. We are backward because of such traditions. Do you want the more radical elements to bring change to Russia? The communists and socialists of our country could come back to overthrow everything."

They continued to argue, Nicholas letting them as he stuck in his own depression. His son would never go out with them again. He'd never spend a time vacationing, sitting under the son trying to teach his son to be careful fishing. Seeing his wife with their daughters in a picnic, basking in the summer sun. He might see his daughters do that with their own families. maybe that would be his joy, being an old man sitting under a tree while he watched his daughter's children play. God he hated this job, he hated being Czar, and yet he had it thrust upon him. His despair made these men's arguing grate on his ears.

"ENOUGH!!" He yelled as he stood up, slamming his fist against the desk. "The Duma has performed admirably as an adivsory to me. THeir advice has been tantimount in our progress so far. But, I think their power shoudl be in such a role, and I hope they will accept my concilliations to the RUssian people. Fighting against it has hurt the Russian people more than it has helped."

He turned towards the man in the full regalia. "I will not get rid of traditions." He noticed the man puff up. "NOr shall I assign such a role that goes against the interests of the state. You sir are no longer in command of your army. I am now assigning you to railroad grades. OUr country has differeing grades everywhere. I want it standardized so time will not be wasted."

"THat will take at least 5 years. I can't."

"Think of it as job security." Nicholas stated with a growl he found strange as he stared both men down. "I am the Czar and I shall make the decisions. THe Duma is my advisory, and the royalty shall be my tool in which to make this coutnry a power the world shall know. Instead of the huge backward cousin." He glared both men down, his anger at the tragedy as much a cause of his outburst as anything. THey both bowed their heads.

To Willy:

I request you come to the funeral. Since my wife's homeland is your nation, it would do good to show a unity in this trying time. I wish that it were easier than that. If anything I hope their to be peace rather than hardships, though to tell the truth I wish for certain things to happen.

Nicky

Titicus

29-03-2006, 23:10

After several weeks of preparations and frantic traveling to Bulgaria, Montenegro, and Greece, the alliance was prepared. The Pan-Balkan alliance, minus a distant Romania was ordered to mobilize and prepare for (what?). Serb forces have been called up and are prepared to save their brethren and prevent the rise of a stronger enemy to the south.

The allies of Russia and France have pledged support especially since they are obliged to protect the Slavs and Hellenes. All is being readied on Serbia's southern border as the experienced army took positions

Jamminberry

29-03-2006, 23:11

From: Britain
To: Germany
We would like to strengthen our ties with Germany. If possible, an alliance would be good.

OOC: Keep it quiet, but I have no intention of getting involved in WWI. However, with the current alliances it seems i might be inclined to.

Franberry

29-03-2006, 23:19

"Mr.President, Praguay, Bolivia and Uruguay have formed an alliance"
"What?"
"Yes, they have made an alliance, and an even stronger economic deal."
"Our assets! We will stop being the biggest economic influnce in each of the nations."
"Yes sir, they shall compensate for it with each other, it will be harder for our trade to flow through those countries."
"Ok, have the plans for the invasion of those countries revised. I want them modernized."
"Yes sir"

(OOC: Check my news thread, lots of stuff happened)

Warta Endor

29-03-2006, 23:29

Meanwhile...

A ordinary looking man boarded the liner to Italy. He went to his cabin, unpacked his clothes and went to the upper deck to see the last of Japan glide away. Italy would not be his final destination, he was supposed to go onward to Paris. What he would do there? Only a few people knew. His name? Koyasa Shimizu, Major Koyasa Shimizu.

As SIC. As Possible

Koyosa Shimizu had to hurry to catch his train to Paris. He really looked like a hasty salesman or something. He had travelled a long way since leaving Japan. Going by ship to Napels, he then boarded a train for Milan. In Milan he took the train to Lyon, where he was now. Tomorrow he would finally have the meeting, the meeting he had travelled so far for. His mission?

He would contact a well known Russian Revolutionairy and see if they could be used to bring Russia on it's knees. After the recent Chaos, the chance of a revolution seemed to be great...

ooc. I need someone to RP a man called Vladimir Iljitsj Oeljanov, a.k.a. Lenin. He lives in Paris in 1911, so I decided to give him a visit ;)

Sukiaida

29-03-2006, 23:56

OOC: Sure bring Lenin over. Of course remember that the Communist were in a world where the threat of a continued ROmanov line helped as well as the problems of the First World War. Bringing out Lenin now where the Romanov line no longer seems a threat with a Duma much more involved than in real life with the concilliations of the Czar being pushed forward wheer in real history they failed. Let's say he'll find a Russia much less likely to fall into Revolution than in real history. Not to mention Lenin was allowed to escape by the RUssians way to many times. You might just try and have him arrive, only to be executed. He is banished after all and I am much harsher to revolutionaries than Nicholas was. *Evil grin* So send all the Revolutionaries you want.

Elite Battle Hordes

30-03-2006, 00:15

Dearest Nicky,

This is indeed a trying time, and I will of course attend. It is unfortunate that I should need bring this up now, but it cannot wait; we must discuss the trouble that seems to be brewing in the Balkans. In light of your tradegy now more than ever we must maintain peace.

Sincerely yours,

Willy

OOC: Jamminberry, what alliances are making you reconsider; Italy? Also, how am I supposed to keep it quit when you posted it where everyone can read it.

Also, I agree with Sukiada, you should at least wait until Russia is starving from war... with whoever it is that might happen to go to war with them. *Insert evil laugh here*

Sukiaida

30-03-2006, 00:22

OOC: IF indeed RUssia happens to be starving when you go to war. Not to mention if it's found out, it would be a perfect reason to go to war with Japan. And as the Japanese in real history realized, they can win a short war with RUssia, but if it's a slugging match, Japan will lose and lose big. Why do you think Japan was willing to agree to the US's diplomatic forcing of a treaty during the Russo-Japanese war? Cause the Japanese realized that in a few more months the entire might of the RUssian size was about to fall on their heads. Most people don't know how close Japan actually would have come to ruin if they'd stretched the conflict out longer.

IC:

Telegram: I will be willing to discuss it after the funeral, telegram would be too impersonal for such a dispatch.

Jamminberry

30-03-2006, 00:55

OOC: Elite Battle Hordes, Italy and possibly France, depending on their relations with Germany. Possibly Poland also. And it was a figure of speech, don't worry about keeping it quiet.

Haneastic

30-03-2006, 01:20

The Archduke Eugen looked at the map, "they are mobilizing?" he asked.
"Undoubtedly", came the reply, "We're not sure who they're targeting, but it would be better safe than sorry"
"Indeed", grunted Eugen

To: Commander of Bosnian Military District
From: High Command

Effective immediatley, all forces are to go on high alert. The fortifications being built are to be hurried, and we are dispatching 2 divisions of the Royal Hungarian Army to assist you. Reserve divisions are being prepared

Troop Disposition:

Active Divisions facing Balkan border: 18
Divisions transferring: 2
Divisions being called up: 18
(divisional size is 15,000)

To: The Pan-Balkan alliance
From: Austria-Hungary

We are disturbed by these mobilizations, and preparation for war against our ally, the Ottoman Empire. We must warn you not to act rashly

Koryan

30-03-2006, 01:52

2 Italian dreadnoughts, each supported by 2 pre-dreadnoughts and 2 cruisers, have been dispatched to patrol the Balkan Coast and west Greece. Orders have been given to peacefully arrest any Balkan warships seen in the area and return them to their home ports. Italy is trying to avoid entering the war directly but will support from the sidelines.

Franberry

30-03-2006, 02:55

"Mr. President, war will happen in the Balkans, Austria-Hungary is mobilizing, Italy is sending a fleet"
"Normally, I would not say this, but under the circumstances, excellent."
"Sir?"
"Its going to provide an excellent smokescreen, noone will notice anything happening in Paraguay or some other South American hellhole. We will probably have to send aid to someone, one of our allies will probably involved. I have orders, to be delivered to the Minister of War, by hand."
"Yes Sir."
The President wrote something on a piece of paper

Ready a further 10,000 men on the Urguay front. Be prepared to move into the country by the end of the week. Send a further 5,000 men to each of the Bolivian and Paraguay fronts, and tell the soldiers there to dig in.

He put the note in an envelope, sealed it, and handed it to his aide.

Elite Battle Hordes

30-03-2006, 03:46

OOC: Oh, Russia wouldn't be starving when the war started. But like in real life they would suffer from extreme war exaustion.

If France joined then Britain would actually be less likely to declare war on Germany. The combined fleet of France and Germany would be nearly a match for Britain's. Unless you meant that you would join on the side of Germany...

Guys, I don't know about supporting the Ottomans directly. This might provoke war with Russia, and consequently, France. I don't think Voxio wants to be a full member of our alliance for this very reason. Everybody should let it go the historical route and just let the Ottomans fight it out with the Serbs, Greeks, etcetera. Of course if you want to help directly anyway and Russia declares war, Germany would be forced to come to your aid.

Voxio

30-03-2006, 05:16

Guys, I don't know about supporting the Ottomans directly. This might provoke war with Russia, and consequently, France. I don't think Voxio wants to be a full member of our alliance for this very reason. Everybody should let it go the historical route and just let the Ottomans fight it out with the Serbs, Greeks, etcetera. Of course if you want to help directly anyway and Russia declares war, Germany would be forced to come to your aid.
OOC:
I asked Austria-Hungary to help me in the event of such a thing. Though I never did directly ask for a mutual defense pact. I talked to Italy too, but that was both for myself [To help defeat the Greeks in naval battles] and for Italy [To give them experience in modern warfare that the Italians drastically needed by this point in time]. I didn't ask you because it was out of your sphere of influence and I honestly couldn't see any reason why you would want in on this war.

IC:

"Your majesty, rumors have been spreading of trouble brewing in the balkans."
"Hmm, have an additional 40,000 soldeirs sent to defend the northern Balkan territories under the command of General Zekki Pasha an additional 50,000 troops to be deployed under the command of Ghazi Shulkri Pasha in Thrace. Have them dig in."

The Sultan sat at his desk as his aid left and quickly began to write.

To: The Austrian Empire
From: Mehmed V, Sublime Porte
We've heard reports of trouble in the balkans and in the event of a full war with Serbia we would like your help. We have no interest in expanding our territory, so any land you take up to our borders is yours to take.

As one of the few nations friendly towards us you are welcome to send send observers to our side of the battle if one is to erupt.

To: The Kingdom of Italy
From: Mehmed V, Sublime Porte
We've heard reports of trouble in the balkans and as one of the few nations friendly towards us you are welcome to send send observers to our side of the battle if one is to erupt.

To: The Russian Empire
From: Mehmed V, Sublime Porte
We've heard reports of trouble in the balkans and we hope that in the event of full war you will stay out of it. As a show of good faith we will welcome Russian observers to watch our side of the war.

As much as I hate to mix my leadership with personal business, I have heard reports of a loss in your family. I am sorry to hear of the deaths and I am sure your family members are with God now.

Haneastic

30-03-2006, 15:07

OOC: well, we should of course try to avoid a war, but it might be better to support someone willing to be an ally as long as it wouldn't bring everyone else down on us. If Russia doesn't do anything when the Ottomans and the Balkan alliance fight, then it might be better to just watch from the sidelines, because the Ottomans appear stronger then the Balkan alliance.

IC:

To: Ottoman Empire
From: Austria-Hungary

We will be glad to send observers over to your country to witness the fighting. We would also be glad to sell you a small amount of artillery to you to assist in your battles (100 77mm guns).

Austria-Hungary has announced the sale of 70 torpedo boats, 1 dreadnought, 2 cruisers, and 5 destroyers (ooc: Voxio, correct me if I got the numbers wrong). The money that Austria-Hungary will recieve will go into strengthening the defenses around Sarajevo, Cracow, Premzsyl, Lemberg, Vienna, Budapest, and to renovate the defenses in the Carpathians

Warta Endor

30-03-2006, 15:52

Imperial Headquarters, Tokyo

Aide:"Sir! We've got our latest reports from our attachés in Istanbul and Vienna. There's a threat of war in Europe, on the Balkans. The "Balkan Alliance", consisting of Serbia, Greece, Montonegro and Bulgaria. They've been mobilizing and this caused Austria-Hungaria and the Ottoman Empire to mobilize as well."
General Fukuoka:"Any idea what they're after?"
Aide:"It could be anything, Rumania, the Ottoman Empire, even Austria-Hungary if they're stupid enough..."
General Fukuoka:"Or if they have support of one of the great powers...It wouldn't harm Russia if their Slavic friends damage or distract Austria-Hungary or the Ottomans."
Aide:'What shall we do now, sir?"
Fukuoka:"For now, we continue with our plans."
Aide:"Yes sir!"

Sukiaida

30-03-2006, 18:53

It came late due to the preparations for the funeral, but Russia sent it's message loud and clear. "The RUssian people see htis current crisis of the Balkins as and only as a war within the Balkins. All greater countries should remain free of it, no matter what. It disturbs me that AUstria-Hungary has mobilized against the Serbs and other Slavs, in a continued action against the Slavic race. I give my word that as long as no Austrian foot lays it's foot on Serbian soul, no Russian foot shall land on Ottoman or Austrian soul. THe instant an Austrian boot does land, however, the entire might of the RUssian army and navy shall fall upon the transgresor. This does not only pertain to Austria. ALL nations who attempt to get involved shall be pushed away, and the grief I have today shall be shared by thousands because you have stayed my hand. Leave this as a Balkan war."

OOC: Ergo, we will keep out of this business if you keep out of this business. Austria doesn't back down, I invade and turn Austria into a satrap of Russia as much as Poland is. And remember he just kicked all the inept generals to interior work. Which means the only generals left are those who are there for Merit reasons. Like Prince Nicholas and Brusilov. *Evil grin* Remember fate works in weird ways. MWAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! OOH also gotta update my stuff. A few more months and more ships would be built. LALALALALALALLALA!!

Haneastic

30-03-2006, 18:59

OOC: sounds good to me. I only mobilized in case Serbia invaded me (if they were that crazy) As long as they don't do anything, I won't

IC:

To: Bosnian Military District
From: Central Command

Under no circumstances are you to advance into Serbian territory. If the Serbians attack you, your troops are allowed to defend themselves, but they are not to provoke the Russians

Sukiaida

30-03-2006, 19:10

Order to Reserve Armies:

Watch the AUstrians, should they attack Serbia, invade immidietly, if they stay in position, you stay in position. If they attack, flank and destroy their army. You are not here to provoke a war, but instead react to one.

OOC: I doubt they would invade AUstria Hungary.

Haneastic

30-03-2006, 19:20

I have no idea what they'll be doing, better safe than sorry

Titicus

30-03-2006, 21:32

Mobilizing continues in the Balkans and has the look that nothing can stop it. The one-minded determination and hatred of the Ottomans and everything Turkish had seemingly overwhelmed the peoples of the Balkans, especially the Serbs. Nothing would deter them and with the power of Russia behind them, they felt invincible. For too long the Slavs and Hellenes, Bulgars and Christians of the Balkans had been crushed under the oppression of corrupt, evil Sultans in Constantinople. Now was the time to end it, to save the brethren, to bring equality and nationhood to the people.

The Ottoman Empire was weak. The Sick man of Europe had fallen and was without teeth, the slow and steady decline of age and inceptness reaching this empire far before many others. Only recently had the Sultans opened their eyes and seen how far behind they were. It would not be enough, it would not be in time. The Empire was not ready and the Serbs, Montenegrins, Bulgars and Greeks would show that.

Bulgaria has mustered 360,000 troops; Serbia 290,000 troops; Greece 160,000 troops; and Montenegro 40,000 troops. In addition, some 20,000 Croats and Bosnians have been coaxed to join the allies.

The Alliance issued two brief documents today:

From Belgrade, cosigned Athens, Sofia, Podgorica
To Rome, Vienna:

The Balkans Alliance has been formed and wishes you nations to know that it intends no aggression against either of your countries. Only the Turks need go down and we want no fight with your nations. Remember that an unwarranted attack on any member could lead to war and intervention by both France and Russia. It would be better that you not intervene.

King Constantine

From Belgrade, Athens, Sofia, Podgorica
To Constantinople:

The Ottoman Empire is faced with an ultimatum: surrender the rest of the Balkans or face war. The Alliance demands control of Macedonia, Kosovo, and Thrace at the least along with reparations for years of oppression.

King Constantine

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