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DONT POST HERE! GO HERE FOR CENTRAL IRATHRIA LOCATION:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10541886#post10541886

No views even? Thats sad.

To keep this from looking like a bump, I would like to remind any potential viewers that this is in no way an alliance, but if you want to make one you can if you want. I probably won't join though, because the whole point of this continent is to make NS more realistic and have bordering nations, and whats the point of haveing all your neighbors as allies.

a bump

OOC: Me thinks we need conflict...or else we'll be forgotten by the MT world.

Yes we do. I'll tg you bout it now.

ooc: This belongs in Gameplay methinks.

Its clearly II...Don't have to take shots at us like that.

It would have to be a region for it to be in gameplay....
This is essentially an Earth if you think about it. I have seen, and participated in, many projects like this.
I could name them if you'ld like.

Oh, sorry about that! I thought it read like a regional ad, I guess I added 2 and 2 to get 3.

Would you please mark it as not a regional ad, cause I'm sure there are more than enough people like me out there.

What tech level is this?

This is MT mostly, I guess PMT is ok. I'll mark it since your probably right, and people looking at my post count will probally assume I'm a noob and make the same assumptions that I posted in the wrong spot.

Would you like to join? As you can see, there is quite a bit of land left.

Oh, sorry about that! I thought it read like a regional ad, I guess I added 2 and 2 to get 3.

Would you please mark it as not a regional ad, cause I'm sure there are more than enough people like me out there.

What tech level is this?

You cannot change a title once it is posted, so he couldn't even if he wanted to, it'd still APPEAR like it was from the forum lists.

Though there is alot of land you can gobble up if you want it. ^-^

I was MT once (long time ago NS wise) Must be a year I think. I'm FT right now, and I figure that probably won't fit with the style here.

I'll see if I can dig up some of my ancient MT spreadsheets.

I'm eying that area between Asbena, Azazia, Koryan, Florintine, and something that I can't read on this computer (that peninsula thing up north) and the unclaimed island nearby.

EDIT:
NOTE!
THIS IS NOT A REGIONAL RECRUITMENT AD!
muchos gracias ^_^

I just put a note in telling people that it wasn't a region. Easy enough, and if someone doesn't notice it this time, there just an idiot instead of just a little confused about my post.

EDIT: Ok, you got it.

Can I join this Continent?

I am a mixture of MT and PMT.

Edit: I am eyeing the area north of the Transylvania with the three small islands and a decent chunk of the coastal mainland.

Sure. Whereabouts? Just not that middle section between me and all the other countries. I didn't host the new map yet. (obviously, its been like 2 minutes since I said it was No Endorse's)

I am eyeing the area north of the Transylvania with the three small islands and a decent chunk of the coastal mainland.

Sure.

EDIT: Ok, you got it.
SWEET! Thanks!

Why do I get the feeling that I just got myself into a Poland-like position? Either that or Germany, I can't decide which. Anyways, time to update the spreadsheets some.

SWEET! Thanks!

Why do I get the feeling that I just got myself into a Poland-like position? Either that or Germany, I can't decide which. Anyways, time to update the spreadsheets some.

Lol! Just seriously, avoid my nation if you don't want something like this to happen:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10438482

Well, mostly because you have.
lol
I mean, I'm not planning on being exactly quiet in the future, and I'm sure a religious wacko state isn't either.

Do we get to pick our nation's climate?

Lol Flor...ya your right.


Do we get to pick our nation's climate?
Its kinda already posted by the picture on the other thread for the conditions. So maybe, but it appears limited at the most.

Err, I think the climate is explained in the OP.

Does the nation I've picked have acess to the sea towards the south? Or am I going to have to conquer/buy the territory from someone?

from what I can tell, the UK and Florintine have their borders run up to the mouth of that one river, which for now I guess remains nameless, but that channel through which any shipping would run would fall under the territory of the UK and Florintine.

technically speaking, if you build a port city at the mouth you'll have access, but you'll have to negotiate shipping rights with either Florintine or me. Which, I am not adverse to, in exchange for other considerations such as cross-border rail and roadways and perhaps security treaties and such. That and I have a small port city on my end of that river mouth, perhaps in the future some weird tri-national cosmopolitan port city will develop since three borders more or less exist at one point.

from what I can tell, the UK and Florintine have their borders run up to the mouth of that one river, which for now I guess remains nameless, but that channel through which any shipping would run would fall under the territory of the UK and Florintine.

technically speaking, if you build a port city at the mouth you'll have access, but you'll have to negotiate shipping rights with either Florintine or me. Which, I am not adverse to, in exchange for other considerations such as cross-border rail and roadways and perhaps security treaties and such. That and I have a small port city on my end of that river mouth, perhaps in the future some weird tri-national cosmopolitan port city will develop since three borders more or less exist at one point.

That's a little better then my condition of where I need to go THROUGH his for anything...hence a lack of transportation and goods.

I was looking at the area west of Asbena. and Florintine. It looks like a good place to begin the work of the Underverse...

heh, there's a reason why I enjoy bordering the massive northern coastline and the southern coastline at its minimum distance... Kingsland can become economically powerful if only in the fact that it is at the centre of the continent and should become, assuming the economic and commercial systems develop semi-realistically, quite powerful. For which by the way, there is already one rail-line operating from north to south connecting the northern sea/ocean to the southern one and once I have actual neighbours I hope to be able to build an east-west railway system and presumably No Endorse and whoever ends up bordering me to the east will play integral parts in that economic development.

I was looking at the area west of Asbena. and Florintine. It looks like a good place to begin the work of the Underverse...

That's the mountains buddy. The east area is just plain open...though you'll be sneak attacked all the time.

i like the mountains. its harsh and cold. perfect for a necromonger...

Err, I think the climate is explained in the OP.

Does the nation I've picked have acess to the sea towards the south? Or am I going to have to conquer/buy the territory from someone?
You have access to the river (which I named the Ronli River, btw), but no access to the ocean. So you would have to negotiate with me or Azazia for access to the ocean, and you'd obviously be in quite a mess if I decided to blockade it for any reason.

Of course you don't have to worry about that right now...

And yes, the climate is sort of explained, but for further explanation, you would have a climate about that of Virgina I think, maybe a little colder. It would be a lot colder in the mountains of course. But since you got the mountains mostly, you would have a very dry inside of that area, and a very moist western slope area.

You have access to the river (which I named the Ronli River, btw), but no access to the ocean. So you would have to negotiate with me or Azazia for access to the ocean, and you'd obviously be in quite a mess if I decided to blockade it for any reason.

Of course you don't have to worry about that right now...

And yes, the climate is sort of explained, but for further explanation, you would have a climate about that of Virgina I think, maybe a little colder. It would be a lot colder in the mountains of course. But since you got the mountains mostly, you would have a very dry inside of that area, and a very moist western slope area.

I'll deal with that when the time comes lol...scary thought, but I have thought of it already.

Just put up the new map.
Yay.

Just put up the new map.
Yay.

THAT IS NOT YAY FOR ME! VERY VERY BAD!

lol
Thats were he wanted.
Its not like hes going to attack you in the first place.
Wait is he?

lol
Thats were he wanted.
Its not like hes going to attack you in the first place.
Wait is he?

Yes he is...check the uprising thread.

Hmm... I'd buy some coast from either of you guys if you're in the market. Azazia: maybe an agreement where I get a stretch of coast and then commit to aiding you in a trans-continental railway system and some heavy trade ties/nonagression? All I need is about a third to a half a grid square of southern coast and I'll be happy.

Main reason is I'd like to have a southern fleet somewhat (the north is too icy for me, I don't like the idea of needing ice breakers

Yes he is...check the uprising thread.
Well, you don't have to fight him until we're done, so don't sweat it.

i'm not willing to sell the land, just to clear that up right up front because as I said, I do have a semi-important port city there that facilitates trade through to the inland portions of the western half of the continent. Although if given the security and trade agreements we would not necessarily be opposed to your basing a fleet in your part of the river that you could use for your southern fleet. The international agreement being that you could sail your fleets out of the river and through UK waters for operations providing for your own defence or offensive operations against non-UK allies...

Well, you don't have to fight him until we're done, so don't sweat it.

That's good. O.o;

Hope you like my priests....they aren't all like that though! I PROMISE! XD

Edit: off to bed to...

Yeah, I don't think I'll be selling any land either. That is an importaint strip right there, and I'd hate to just sell it. I mean, I'm fighting a border war so I can get better access to the river. The last thing I want is to lose that river mouth.

Thanks for the information, So basically the climate is going to be fairly cold with heavy rains and a very large chance of flooding in the coastal area. If I assume correctly? It will probally be very cold in the mountains. Thus the need for learning to adapt to possiable cold conditions.

You're right Xharn, but it also means you will have an advantage when fighting on your homefront, you will be better prepared then mostg regular enemies will and it isn't too bad...

TAG for the new thread. Cool, I have two northern neighbors.

If there is any land left Intracircumcordei will take a chunk
The South Western Area as much from the south to the north West as posible. (especially the one island at the far south and if posible the Islands leading to Florintine

From the Asbenian Uprising...
OOC: If any more religious nuts move into my area, I swear I'm going to start dishing out the pain.

Is there a single other atheist nation on this continent?
Any non-religious, at least?

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/2106/adjusted0kd.jpg
I was thinking something along this line but province wise only as many as is acceptable in order of likeability



South Florintine & South Islands Provincia
West Central Florintine Provincia
Penisula Provincia
West Florintine Provincia
North Eeast Western Flortintine Provincia
North West Flortintine Provincia

Would like them all but if that is TOO MUCH LAND, I can understand.

BTW what is the scale?

Ps. my state is sorta aheist but follow what is said to be good. Ultimately our faith is food sense and dedication. It just developed to be considered Holy etc..

Try a little smaller. I have a population of 250 million and your claim is about 3 times mine.

Let's put it this way: I'm ~3 billion (with a B) strong. I'd be quite hesitant to claim that much land. (I might conquer that much land, but I wouldn't start with that much)

I've been thinking about requesting a small stretch of southern coast on the other side of Azazia (above Rosi Crucis) But I'll probably hold off on that, idunno. Some of the fun is finding a place to moor my southern fleet if I decide to have one.

I’m going to put my map on this thread. http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/02a3c54f.jpg

And I will repost my military of Wolfe Island.

Armed Forces of Wolfe Island:
17th Black Angels (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/17th.jpg) (The whole unit, all 500,000 men.)
Leader: Lieutenant Colonel Steve Poll (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/Poll.jpg)
Color: Black
Equipment:
One AR-56 assault rifle
One M-12 MasterKey double-barreled shotgun
One PHX Hi-Power 10mm pistol
Transylvanian Body Armor

Air Force of Wolfe Island:
Colonel Ethan Reed (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/EReed.jpg) and his “Dark Panzer Jaegers” (A twelve men air unit flying AV-28 Wraith ESTOVL attack aircrafts)
Colonel Stephen McGowan (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/McGowan.jpg) and his “Executioners of Sky“ (A twelve men air unit flying AV-28 Wraith ESTOVL attack aircrafts)
200 F-33B Phoenix interceptors
300 F-31X Cyclone interceptors
150 F-14D Tomcat multi-role strike fighters
150 S-37 Berkut fighters
100 AH-6J Little Birds
100 Mi-28 Havoc attack helicopters
100 Mi-35 Hind E assault transport helicopters
100 CSH-2 Rooivalk attack helicopters
50 B-9 Vexore bombers

Navy of Wolfe Island:
1 Omega class trimaran heavy battleships ((DN The Black Star))
4 Haven class trimaran battleships ((DN The Cry of Atlantis, DN The Hell-born Raider, DN Neptune's Executioner and DN Night's Black Compass))
10 Tiger-class railgun-armed gunboats
50 MTN-L01 Tritus class trimarine frigates
75 MTN-L02 Ra class monohull SC patrol boats
100 MTN-L05 Waveskimmer class hovercraft missilecrafts
25 MTN-CR01 Wyth class monohull missile cruisers
25 MTN-S01 Harius class submarines

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/2106/adjusted0kd.jpg
I was thinking something along this line but province wise only as many as is acceptable in order of likeability



South Florintine & South Islands Provincia
West Central Florintine Provincia
Penisula Provincia
West Florintine Provincia
North Eeast Western Flortintine Provincia
North West Flortintine Provincia

Would like them all but if that is TOO MUCH LAND, I can understand.

BTW what is the scale?

Ps. my state is sorta aheist but follow what is said to be good. Ultimately our faith is food sense and dedication. It just developed to be considered Holy etc..

WOW HUGELY BIG!
Thats a little much. Theres a map on the first page that shows grids, and each grid is about 100,000 square miles. Thats about the size of Colorado. EDIT: The grids are, not your claim.
Oh, and the continents name is Irathria. My nations name is Florintine. Just wondering why you named everything after me.

But I would be willing to give you the end of the penninsula and the islands off of it. I need someone there.

bump

Let's put it this way: I'm ~3 billion (with a B) strong. I'd be quite hesitant to claim that much land. (I might conquer that much land, but I wouldn't start with that much)

I've been thinking about requesting a small stretch of southern coast on the other side of Azazia (above Rosi Crucis) But I'll probably hold off on that, idunno. Some of the fun is finding a place to moor my southern fleet if I decide to have one.
You can just conquet that little part. I don't mind.

im interested into coming to this contient tho there is a problem so i thought i would bring it up.

I based my nation (with the population it has) to be based on a set islands (5 intotal) that well..are to small to house the population so there is no green land (infact there all massive cities, meaning most of my imports are food stuffs), the central island about the size florintine control island to the south west. the smaller islands are well smaller, the northen island, southen island etc etc. Im just wondering if your willing to edit the map to add this or if i should jsut take a bunch of unclaimed islands down at the south (if there still unclaimed).

Let's put it this way: I'm ~3 billion (with a B) strong. I'd be quite hesitant to claim that much land. (I might conquer that much land, but I wouldn't start with that much)

I've been thinking about requesting a small stretch of southern coast on the other side of Azazia (above Rosi Crucis) But I'll probably hold off on that, idunno. Some of the fun is finding a place to moor my southern fleet if I decide to have one.
You can just conquet that little part. I don't mind.

Except to provision and trade with his colony will require maritime trade routes, routes that would still have to be negotiated with the UK and/or Florintine. And for one the UK would not look too kindly on a foreign power conquering land on the eastern border of Kingsland (with land already in the west) just so it can base military forces there. They'd view that as highly suspect. Just to give you a heads up on how the UK would react ICly.

Look at my nation....trapped on all sides, completely isolated from the sea...you know what that means to MY nation?!

-SNIP-

There is a big problem. We said we would stay out of threads that we were in. I was in this one first and Florintine said it his last thread, he does not want that many big nations.

Trans, i dont really care, im more then willing to let bygones be bygones, if your not well then thats your choice.

Damn, what happen to you? Well, everything will be thrown away. But you do know this a MT thread. Do you have MT part?

look for a thread call "blood, small price for land" and "the corporate States"

From the Asbenian Uprising...


Is there a single other atheist nation on this continent?
Any non-religious, at least?

Magic 8-ball says: Outlook seems doubtful.

Oh…I saw them just a few second ago. Like how "blood, small price for land" was started. Hope it works good for you.

Oh…I saw them just a second. Like how "blood, small price for land" was started. Hope it works good for you.

Hey would you be willing to give my nation a small plot of sea for a port?

Something about the Dominion you need to know. We don’t just give away free land. It would take meeting with your leader and the leader of Wolfe Island (Don’t have a name for him) or one of my military leaders to get to know your nation and people. Then if they like you people, it would cost some money top set up port on our lands.

Something about the Dominion you need to know. We don’t just give away free land. It would take meeting with your leader and the leader of Wolfe Island (Don’t have a name for him) or one of my military leaders to get to know your nation and people. Then if they like you people, it would cost some money top set up port on our lands.

I'd be willing do to a full RP, but we don't WANT land. We want a sea port....that is stationed in sea, by your waters.

maybe I'm just not seeing something, but Asbena, how is Transylvania giving you a seaport going to do anything for Asbena?

You can just conquet that little part. I don't mind.

danka

I'll wait for you to map it out unless you'd like me too.

I will change the name to 'Irathia Provincia'

the name on the top of the map was florintine so I used that name...

@Asbena: I will think about it. For a sea port in our waters, it still going to cost you some money. Well, a lot of money.

maybe I'm just not seeing something, but Asbena, how is Transylvania giving you a seaport going to do anything for Asbena?

You'll see in time...I'm going to make a post about it whether I can find the area or not to construct it.

@Asbena: I will think about it. For a sea port in our waters, it still going to cost you some money. Well, a lot of money.

Well think of it as an oil rig.....a platform far from your land. It would have its benefits.

Well think of it as an oil rig.....a platform far from your land. It would have its benefits.

As longs you build out of everybody’s maritime claims (Mine is territorial sea: 12 nm), you will not get in trouble with anybody. If you want to build it near Wolfe Island, keep out of my territorial sea or it will become mine. If you get what I mean.

I guess I'll do that....need to go through Flor to start it...

Bump!

Xantias have begun to Militarize our claim in the Irathria Continent. Starting with Anit-air and air bases.

Military builting progress: 12% complete

Go ahead.

im interested into coming to this contient tho there is a problem so i thought i would bring it up.

I based my nation (with the population it has) to be based on a set islands (5 intotal) that well..are to small to house the population so there is no green land (infact there all massive cities, meaning most of my imports are food stuffs), the central island about the size florintine control island to the south west. the smaller islands are well smaller, the northen island, southen island etc etc. Im just wondering if your willing to edit the map to add this or if i should just take a bunch of unclaimed islands down at the south (if there still unclaimed).


Just incase you missed it

No Endorse opposes this move, it is great folly. A military buildup will do little more than destabilize the region. As such we give Xanthias warning.

We will be observing your actions. Be prudent in your construction, as anything deemed excessive may have consequences.

The nation of Xantias has no mistrust, or misdoings with the nation of No endorse. As such We will say the build up is so we may have our own security in our part. We may be Necromongers be we are not stupid.

Is this open? If so, would it be possible for me to get the peninsula and open islands in the west of the map?

The nation of Xantias has no mistrust, or misdoings with the nation of No endorse. As such We will say the build up is so we may have our own security in our part. We may be Necromongers be we are not stupid.

No Endorse does not mistrust Xantias. We only fear for the stability of the region. So long as this buildup is within reason, we will not interfere, we pledge our honor to that.

You two sound like robots... all my build up and stuff is on display and no one is argueing about it. I may be small but such a build up for ANY nation would gain attention usually.

We only wish to make our presence know to everyone. Our ways are dislike be many and loved by few. I am sorry if we seemed over militaristic...

Your presence is known, and we embrace you as brothers in the international scene. May our causes never oppose. Militarism is not a bad thing, but it can be used in ways more negative than can be imagined. This is why we will watch you. While we do not border, we share a continent. We will be watching, always.

Infact We wish to have better relations with you. And you especially. WE have great respect for you. May we have good time ahead of us.

Signed

Head Necropriest

Check the page for the Necromonger church plz...

Infact We wish to have better relations with you. And you especially. WE have great respect for you. May we have good time ahead of us.

Signed

Head Necropriest

Our people would not be averse to friendship or even alliance. We would wish to know more about you though, and observe your actions on the global scene. We are not certain about the Necromonger religion, but we can come to an understanding.

-Sabra Chime, Ministress of Foreign Relations
-Atal Amner, High Minister

How does this map (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/Truitt/florintinecontinentjpeg0iz.jpg) look towards me staking a claim here? Would anyone also mind if I RPed this alternatly from my NS Jolt RP Nation, but make this my entire nation?

The leader of my little island. Lord Governor Cain Wolfe (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/CainWolfe.jpg) He is from the same bloodline of Lord Halford J. Wolfe. He is towering figure to met in person. (He is 6’5” tall and weights about 290 pounds. Almost all muscle.) His age is 38 years old.

I'll join. How about near Xharn.

I'll join. How about near Xharn.

That space is filled.

Bump for people looking to get the last bit of outer spaces.

Just incase you missed it
You're all set

And you can go ahead Truitt. I don't mind at all.

Now the Corporate States has a place in the world :D

OOC: Florintine, I have an idea for my territory but I wanted your OOC approval first.

The Grand National Union of Xharn is currently under invasion from the Alignment of Novacom. The Fighting is intense and thousands are dead in the Xharnian homeland. The Xharnian Military has unleashed their Nuclear Arsenal and retaliation is expected. I was wondering if it was ok for me to do an Rp about the bulk of my nation's population heading towards our Irathria territory thus making it the new Xharnian Homeland. Think of it as the Xharnian government and people running from their nuclear radiated homeland for a better life.

This will mean that my military can not initially be aggressive or expansionist thanks to the heavy amount of casualties and deaths during the Novan invasion. It would also allow a smaller more defensive military to be in place that could effective fight in the mountains thus making enemy invasion very difficult.

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/9003/seabondry3tv.jpg

I sorta imagine the sea boundries being this way.. if I went to far with territorial waters then say.. I just assume the territorial waters boundries as equally divided amongst adjacent nations. (lines may be slightly off but meant to be divide equal from closest shore to shore Where that blue dot is I propose that ICCD build a floating port, stopover, and have an International Coridor going to the port and into the Inner Sea (watever they are called) I'm calling the Inlet to the right of the Provincia the Inner Sea and the stuff on the outside The Great Sea (South Great Sea, West Great Sea, North Great Sea and East Great Sea. Meanwhile on the other side of Florintine I call it the Outer Sea. The Area dividing the lower Island is called ~ the Great Divide, also punned as 'the moat' as there is an Imperial Fortress on the Island and it is the cheif naval outpost.

I'm geussing the geo boundry was like

http://img492.imageshack.us/img492/8594/geophysicalboundries0ti.jpg

,that. Roughly.

I'm geussing it is an elevation map? What is the Weather like?

Is the equator around the middle of the map above the map, below the map etc..?

Just wondering.



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We would also like to propose a peace treaty individually with everyone? Any takers?

You forget about international waters. They should be 12 km out from the coastline as is standard.

You forget about international waters. They should be 12 km out from the coastline as is standard.

Not all nations have the same territorial water claims. I myself have a 40km territorial limit.

At any rate, your continent sounds like a pretty cool idea, but I'd like to keep my current terrain, if possible. Perhaps we could come to some sort of...arrangment?

Not all nations have the same territorial water claims. I myself have a 40km territorial limit.

At any rate, your continent sounds like a pretty cool idea, but I'd like to keep my current terrain, if possible. Perhaps we could come to some sort of...arrangment?

It depends yes, but we must establish our own, letting Florintine do this is fair, but the map doesn't allow for any international waters at all.

http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/2797/contine1xj.png

Sorry for taking the intiative, but I already made this map to see if you would except my entrance into the countinent. It doesn't effect any existing countries, and cuts off a bit of the unoccupied landmass between Xharn and Azazia.

Would a change like this be execptable to you, Flourintine?

If there's any sizable amount of land left over, could I get a colony?

I believe the greyed areas are the vacant spaces. By the way, the actual map is on the first post on the first page, the map above is my bogus version. :p

Intracircumcordei im willing to start treaty talks, one thing tho my goverment will push for is them 2 islands near the Corporate isles. Not going to force the matter but its going to get pushed.....in one way or another.


Im also going to soon hold a Trade Talk for any nation in the continent willing, trade between each other and me aswell as trade pacts etc etc.

All welcome.

Ya there is vacant spaces, but please, I can't stand the main page being distorted like that for EVERY map.

There needs to be a system for international waters to, otherwise no trade routes and a very upset Asbena with no place to set up a port.

You mean the crappy looking fuzz?

The gray areas are vacant spaces. Though LOOK at the map, the black lines are not supposed to be proper water claims, you need international waters for trade. x-x

Why'd you pick such a bad location, though?

Why'd you pick such a bad location, though?

I didn't pick it >.> He placed me there.

I didn't pick it >.> He placed me there.

Ouch. Perhaps you could ask no endorse and Flor to give you some land for a coastline.

Ouch. Perhaps you could ask no endorse and Flor to give you some land for a coastline.

I might end up taking it by force from Flor. Lol.

Ouch. Perhaps you could ask no endorse and Flor to give you some land for a coastline.

Nope, I'm aiming to get some more actually, especially some sort of Southern coast.

Nope, I'm aiming to get some more actually, especially some sort of Southern coast.

This might be an interesting war idea.

This might be an interesting war idea.
:D Polish Corridor. Sides, I don't want to have to keep my dreads up north, they are wort more than icebreakers.

:D Polish Corridor. Sides, I don't want to have to keep my dreads up north, they are wort more than icebreakers.

Dreads as in Dreadnoughts?

My nation is near unstoppable with its current population for a border attack. The people will naturally fight hardest and will die to the last person to hold their land. Its a simple thing of breaking down what most western ideas are about war. That is why America lost in Vietnam, when an enemy is willing to fight you and harass your troops for EVERY PIECE of land and not fight you directly is the most damaging way to wreck larger nations. Yet you can't bomb ceaselessly on people who only want their land, cause the international community would get upset about oppressing others.

Asbena has no sea, so we are going to build our way there! That's what the goal is. Not fight for it, but take it through alternative means.

My nation is near unstoppable with its current population for a border attack. The people will naturally fight hardest and will die to the last person to hold their land. Its a simple thing of breaking down what most western ideas are about war. That is why America lost in Vietnam, when an enemy is willing to fight you and harass your troops for EVERY PIECE of land and not fight you directly is the most damaging way to wreck larger nations. Yet you can't bomb ceaselessly on people who only want their land, cause the international community would get upset about oppressing others.

Asbena has no sea, so we are going to build our way there! That's what the goal is. Not fight for it, but take it through alternative means.

I bet I could conquer you. Vietnam was a disaster because the Americans never went on the offensive. Would they have fought to win and captured Hanoi, the war would have been an American victory.

Dreads as in Dreadnoughts?
Yeah. I don't have many (not like some nations) and they're horribly outdated. A previous generation from Praetonia. (SP?)

4 Freedoms and 4 Glorious class. And that's all the Dreads I can support. In retrospect, I could never support these back when I bought them.

I bet I could conquer you. Vietnam was a disaster because the Americans never went on the offensive. Would they have fought to win and captured Hanoi, the war would have been an American victory.


Do not forget, If the Americans had attacked North Vietnam directly the Chinese would have come down and put a stop to it. If any body remembers Korea they would know that the Chinese would not put up with a capitalist superpower invading a small communist nation. however Asbena would not be in the same position without some allies...

I bet I could conquer you. Vietnam was a disaster because the Americans never went on the offensive. Would they have fought to win and captured Hanoi, the war would have been an American victory.

Under the American system of combat ya...war of attrition. Thing is there were no battle lines and no one force. The lack of it made them hard to stop. Even if Hanoi was captured do you think the people would have just given up and said, "Crap we lost!" Not a chance, in fact they'd attack more and continue to do it until America pulled out.

Yeah. I don't have many (not like some nations) and they're horribly outdated. A previous generation from Praetonia. (SP?)

4 Freedoms and 4 Glorious class. And that's all the Dreads I can support. In retrospect, I could never support these back when I bought them.

I have...ten superdreadnoughts, I believe, along with 100 other capital ships, and 2000 to 3000 blue water naval ships.

I REALLY need to update my forces then..

That sounds....crappy. Lol! SD ships can be taken out pretty easily I thought to.

Under the American system of combat ya...war of attrition. Thing is there were no battle lines and no one force. The lack of it made them hard to stop. Even if Hanoi was captured do you think the people would have just given up and said, "Crap we lost!" Not a chance, in fact they'd attack more and continue to do it until America pulled out.

Of course, they would just pull ammunition, supplies, and men out of their asses, right? Look, if we had fought a war and advanced instead of lingering trying to protect South Vietnam, we would have won the war and the Vietcong would have eventually been defeated. At any rate, the Vietcong weren't effective at all, the media potrayed them as effective. The Tet Offensive, among other things, was actually a collassal defeat for them; it's just that the anti-war media portrayed it as a victory for the VC.

That sounds....crappy. Lol! SD ships can be taken out pretty easily I thought to.

SDs are nearly invincible. Only a few specialized weapons are capable of bringing one down.

I am really sure that I could whip up a way to bring them down if I had their specs. Mind if I test that. If you have the specs I'll try and figure out how to do it right now. (more detailed the better)

OOC: Here's some specs of a Macabees designed SD. Knock yourself out.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9056553&postcount=247

I'd need 6 months of weapons research, but I could do it right now if I had pinpoint accuracy. Its a simple matter of hitting with bunker busters from above and using torpedos on a single point to blast through the hull. From there you can blow the ship apart internally.

Not a good picture he posted, but from the description you could pierce the armor by sheer brute strength and rip it apart.

low yeld (1-2kt) tactical nuclear warhead, thats my aproch to SuperDreads, my people wont care about screwing the waters up if it gets rid of them dam things. Or a well place torpedo from a Sub in the propellers to slow it down, other then that as much fire power as you can lay down apon them.

I thought using nuclear weapons was frowned upon, but ya. That or a single MOAB. It'd wreck havoc on the ship, massive depressurization which would blow the ship apart from the inside out. Something under that much armor would be ripped apart violently. Even a daisy cutter could potentionally own a SD. It's too much mass in a single area. It's GOING to be slow moving at best and airplanes will rip things to shreds like that.

I thought using nuclear weapons was frowned upon, but ya. That or a single MOAB. It'd wreck havoc on the ship, massive depressurization which would blown the ship apart from the inside out. Something under that much armor would be ripped apart violently. Even a daisy cutter could potentionally own a SD. It's too much mass in a single area. It's GOING to be slow moving at best and airplanes will rip things to shreds like that.

Daisy cutter, ok. How do you plan on getting such a massive bomb to the target, through the numerous escort defenses and the numerable anti-air defenses of the SD itself. Remember that daisy cutter-type weapons are carried by large bombers such as the B-52 or transport aircraft like the C-130, which are big, slow, and ill-suited to anti-shipping operations.

Furthurmore, should you manage to deliver such a massive weapon, know that these types of weapons usually carry a parachute to slow it's descent, which makes it a massive target to SAMs and CICW defenses.

low yeld (1-2kt) tactical nuclear warhead, thats my aproch to SuperDreads, my people wont care about screwing the waters up if it gets rid of them dam things. Or a well place torpedo from a Sub in the propellers to slow it down, other then that as much fire power as you can lay down apon them.

Ahhh, torpedoes can be intercepted by supercavitating CICW and counter torpedoes, as well as conventional CICW guns at close range. In addition, most modern SDs use large-scale waterjets, not screws, which makes them a bit harder to immobilize.

At any rate, let's try to keep the thread on topic, I've seen threads like this go on forever.

Ya...Think its time for me to start heading to the sea?

I thought using nuclear weapons was frowned upon, but ya. That or a single MOAB. It'd wreck havoc on the ship, massive depressurization which would blown the ship apart from the inside out. Something under that much armor would be ripped apart violently. Even a daisy cutter could potentionally own a SD. It's too much mass in a single area. It's GOING to be slow moving at best and airplanes will rip things to shreds like that.


its a 1-2 Kt warhead, most (if not all) RL tactical nuclear weapons are in the region of 100+ Kt, such a low yeld is well....noticable but not something that would destroy the world, infact thats smaller then what the US droped on japan (what was in the region of 20-21Kt).

Let's get off the subject before Velk kills us both!

Should I begin my push to the sea?

im just wondering if anyones willing to come to some form of Trade summit in my nation? i need trade partners.

I was going to do that, but I wanted to set it up in the ocean so there is no barrier or any conflicts over it.

im just wondering if anyones willing to come to some form of Trade summit in my nation? i need trade partners.

I'll come as soon as my territory is accepted.

I'll go if you'll have me.

The UK would likely send an envoy of some sort

This could get interesting...

Ah well...I say I get involved in something. Is there a master list of threads, or maybe someone could point me in the direction of some interesting ones?

Yes it could, I need to start working on a big project.

Would anyone back my nation up if we tried to get access to the sea?

Would anyone back my nation up if we tried to get access to the sea?

Who exactly would you throw yourself at? Florintine seems to be the shortest distance, but then again, you have so many options. I need to know exactly where you're going before I can say I'll support you.

Yes it could, I need to start working on a big project.

Would anyone back my nation up if we tried to get access to the sea?

Depends on where you're going.

If you tried to gain access via military force I'd have to try to put a stop to it.

likewise, depends on where you're going, but being that your best bet in terms of ease of access would be to head right on down that river of yours I think I shall be keeping an eye on said movements... and I didn't want to have to, but it might behoove me to dispatch a fleet and some troops... all this talk of taking coastlines and such makes me nervous...

Well I was going to build a international market in the middle of the water in international waters! I've made a choice between four positions.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a128/Tanthan/florintinecontinentjpeg6bmproposal.jpg

The one by Rosi Crucis is probably the best though. I want to build the thing all the way out there and have a huge tunnel network connect up to it in Asbena. (but no one ICly will know that)

If you think this thing is possible (at all) would anyone be willing to back me on support and material gathering? ^-^

Well, I can see why he would want a coastline. One: He is more sufficant, and Two: He is strategically more flexable and mobile that way. Look at Iraq, it barely has a coastline and is in far better shape than Mongolia, just because its coastline gives it more trade options. I would actually endorse this move unless it is heading westward, but I would like to see diplomacy first.

Well I wanted to be original and not be warlike for this. We are a peaceful nation after all and did with the idea you didn't see above.

Well I am very militaristic, not agressive though. Maybe you should try to purchase the lands? That is the best approach.


EDIT: If you would place the center in the bay where I am located I would help with resources and the purchasing of your materials to gain such a coastline.

building a floating city would be expensive, but not prohibitively so, I think it could have some interesting things to play with as to who has jurisdiction and such as a private investor could build it in "international waters" and not pay heed to any laws per se.

However, the part of building a tunnel network to connect the two, I don't see that as possible. That would be prohibitively expensive not to mention that your tunnels would have to go beneath the surface of any one of a number of countries - and the UK for one would not be okay with that (not that any of your tunnels would be going through UK territory, I don't think, but still, on principle...)

Well no one is willing to sell coastline here, I read the thread earlier about it, no one was willing to part with it!

In resent events some of you might like this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=469895) thread....

Well, if you would like, I could sell you land and you could use aircraft. I could split one of my islands in half and you could have sovereign control of it (I'll just say no citizens live there to prevent any RP confusion).

building a floating city would be expensive, but not prohibitively so, I think it could have some interesting things to play with as to who has jurisdiction and such as a private investor could build it in "international waters" and not pay heed to any laws per se.

However, the part of building a tunnel network to connect the two, I don't see that as possible. That would be prohibitively expensive not to mention that your tunnels would have to go beneath the surface of any one of a number of countries - and the UK for one would not be okay with that (not that any of your tunnels would be going through UK territory, I don't think, but still, on principle...)


Well ya, floating city first which would be anchored in the ocean down as a massive stretch of land for international business. The tunnel network would go deep deep down inside the earth and would take many many years to build, but it would allow for construction of a massive transfer of goods on an unseen scale.

I was looking at plans for such a thing, it would be very very expensive and I wouldn't be able to construct it for a long time, but this is a LOT of planning that is going into it so when my nation becomes large we can do it.

If you tried to gain access via military force I'd have to try to put a stop to it.

Even if it would not concern you? Even though it's a continent away? And even though as little as twenty-two point five thousand square kilometers would make me happy? All I wish for is a strip one hundred and fifty kilometers to a side. That's minicsule for the size of any nation present, besides Rosi Crucis, and their island nation is frankly worthless to me.

Your want to conflict with me over such a small area seems steep. The war I wage could be swift and relatively bloodless if it were to remain strictly me against my chosen opponet, two gladiators in honorable mele. However, were it to blossom to the legions, many innocents might not see the setting sun. Is that what you truely want? We both know that my... well... I must admit it... craving, will not be satisfied until I hold a Southern Coast. Why not... let it happen?

I am not some Hitler. Not Stalin or Mao, obsessed with reinventing dead Rome, or intent on spreading some defunct ideology across Irathria. You'll not see me engaging in pathetic Reganistic diplomacy, trying to extinguish every little military spasm on the planet. My people could not hold much more land than I posess, why bother? Without will, a billion men could be beaten by ten.

All I ask is for a window to the Southern Sea. A way to trade without the need to ask Florintine or Azazia to hold my hand, without that tiny and easily blockable bottleneck of a river.

A way to breath the clean, warm air fresh from the ocean breeze, to bask on the beach like my brothers in this world do. Is that truely so much to ask? I leave you to ponder your position. Conflict is inevitable. Would you rather see it be more of a... transfer of territory? Or are you want to reinventing the Great Wars of our last centuries?

-Atal Amner, High Minister, Military Junta of No Endorse

(ooc: Wow it feels good to write that nation name again)

Well no one is willing to sell coastline here, I read the thread earlier about it, no one was willing to part with it!

It's a pretty clever solution, I'll admit.

Good point! Over such a small area, but it can be contineously done until you lose alot of land over time, all about worth though.

And what is a pretty clever solution, my floating city?

Even if it would not concern you? Even though it's a continent away? And even though as little as twenty-two point five thousand square kilometers would make me happy? All I wish for is a strip one hundred and fifty kilometers to a side. That's minicsule for the size of any nation present, besides Rosi Crucis, and their island nation is frankly worthless to me.

Your want to conflict with me over such a small area seems steep. The war I wage could be swift and relatively bloodless if it were to remain strictly me against my chosen opponet, two gladiators in honorable mele. However, were it to blossom to the legions, many innocents might not see the setting sun. Is that what you truely want? We both know that my... well... I must admit it... craving, will not be satisfied until I hold a Southern Coast. Why not... let it happen?

I am not some Hitler. Not Stalin or Mao, obsessed with reinventing dead Rome, or intent on spreading some defunct ideology across Irathria. You'll not see me engaging in pathetic Reganistic diplomacy, trying to extinguish every little military spasm on the planet. My people could not hold much more land than I posess, why bother? Without will, a billion men could be beaten by ten.

All I ask is for a window to the Southern Sea. A way to trade without the need to ask Florintine or Azazia to hold my hand, without that tiny and easily blockable bottleneck of a river.

A way to breath the clean, warm air fresh from the ocean breeze, to bask on the beach like my brothers in this world do. Is that truely so much to ask? I leave you to ponder your position. Conflict is inevitable. Would you rather see it be more of a... transfer of territory? Or are you want to reinventing the Great Wars of our last centuries?

-Atal Amner, High Minister, Military Junta of No Endorse

(ooc: Wow it feels good to write that nation name again)

Pretty good, except my comment was OOC, which makes your Atal look silly, now does he?

Good point! Over such a small area, but it can be contineously done until you lose alot of land over time, all about worth though.

And what is a pretty clever solution, my floating city?

Yeah, I woulda never seen that thing arrive.

Pretty good, except my comment was OOC, which makes your Atal look silly, now does he?

Shh! Don't let him hear that. He might come in the night and steal your socks :eek:

:D This looks like it's gonna be fun. I'll throw in with Asbena to work on those offshore stations. I may even build a few to... err... umm... drill for oil? (resupply fleets)

Two years ago I built a massive machine that had the power to enslave the Earth. Now I want a city, is that too much to ask for?

Its not a weapon my dear! Its an international bazaar where there is no rules but our own! No limits on trade or money transferance and best of all no taxes! The dream would put MANY MANY companies into my region, buying for advertising space and shops to conduct this business in a unique environment like that!

Well, my country would think of it as No Endorse simply bullying the other smaller nations around it, and we don't go for that sort of thing.

If No Endorse wants to bully people around, he has a militaristic rival he might have to deal with. I don't take kindly to people who throw their weight around (I am a contridicting nation). I am surprised no one has made note of my thread I have made.

No Endorse wouldn't do it...cause I know his masters.

Who would that be?

No Endorse wouldn't do it...cause I know his masters.
Who are my masters? Not Miniferg, trust me. The ASU got nuthin on this hide. EDIT: (he's gonna kill me...:p)

If No Endorse wants to bully people around, he has a militaristic rival he might have to deal with. I don't take kindly to people who throw their weight around (I am a contridicting nation). I am surprised no one has made note of my thread I have made.

Can't. I wouldn't have much intel on you, and I don't know the locations of your silos.

Nothing, I couldn't give it away without spilling everything. Let's just say I know who No Endorse is with! Surely I said too much as is with my past. Though seriously I want to build the massive structure for the continent!

So should I draw my own borders on the map or will you do it?

Umm whatever you decide, but don't take stuff that is not grey.

Umm whatever you decide, but don't take stuff that is not grey.

I guess that makes my nation's setup a bit...null and void, eh?

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/4013/contine0qx.png

Here's the map outlining both mine and Whyatica's requests, to be reviewed by Flor once he gets back.

Please, Whyatica, tell me you're not a uber-religious nation or controlled by a cult (It seems to be a trend among my neighbors).

Please, Whyatica, tell me you're not a uber-religious nation or controlled by a cult (It seems to be a trend among my neighbors).

Oh come on, you like me for it. Right? EDIT: Plus, I don't have my eyes on your territory. But some missionaries might. ^_^

Please, Whyatica, tell me you're not a uber-religious nation or controlled by a cult (It seems to be a trend among my neighbors).

He's a democratic sultanate.

No on both counts.

Cool....but I feel some animosity towards me.

Asbena, what natural resources do you have? Having a coast in MT isn't as important as you guys think. Look at Switzerland, one of the richest nations on the planet and has never had a coast-line in it's existance. You guys are focusing on your militaries, not your economies. It's going to come down to us neutral nations to bailing you guys out of a continental war.

OOC: Where's Florintine? Isn't this continent his project?

Raven corps would like to grab the land east of Azazia. Would this be ok?

Switzerland only has economic ties everywhere, and I'm at war right now, 2 enemies surround me from both sides and 2 inpartitial are in the north and east. I have to think militartistically to defend my land and economy because Florintine is trying to TAKE it. So wherever he is...he needs to come back fast to the RP.

And so I can get my land......:mad:

And so I can get my land......:mad:

Florintine needs to allow you. Don't know where Florintine is at. So, you will have to wait.

But I dont wanna wait...... I hate waiting.....:( .

I know I must wait but the suspense is killing me!

Wish I could clear it for ya to. Though I dunno where he went, maybe his net is out.

Ouch. :(

just TG him/her, its what i did.

Almost to 3,000, eh Corp?

Maybe I should post this link again since it may consern a lot of you who want war and want to stay with who you're allied and what not. I only ask that before you jump, don't be a nant and declare war, be politicans, like I am doing :-P

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10469338#post10469338

Well, I decided to resolve my leader's craving for a southern coast in this thread: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=470089

Of course anyone who puts good money into their foreign intelligence would know exactly what's going on. It would merely be a matter of bribing a few phone tapping officers, and maybe some money here or there in the military postal service.

Glad to see this could be resolved by a vacation instead of an war. :D

Glad to see this could be resolved by a vacation instead of an war. :D
:D Well, you know how planning either of those goes. I'm probably still using the same resources to plan a vacation, for all the hoops you have to go through nowadays.

Oh jeez. Sorry guys, I had a very busy long weekend. Basically, I can sum it up in three words.
Casino.
Hotel.
Coca-Cola.

Anyways, it looks like I missed quite a bit. So, I'll try to answer all your questions, and if I forgot one, I'm sorry.

On the international waters:
Thank you to whoever came up with the idea! I was doing something like that, but I got sidetracked a little bit.

On the new nations:
You are welcome to join. I'll update the .bmp map as soon as I can.

On interacting with other nations:
Do any of you remember NS Earth? This is based on that concept, where all the earths in the whole entire universe are based in one massive planet that is exactly like earth except it holds a whole lot more land. So go ahead, interact. I don't mind.
On a side note: Velkya, since you are apparently on a different continent, but would still like to participate, is there any chance we could show the two continents on sort of a "World Map"? Just wondering.

http://forums3.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=470089

Florintine, couldya look there? (sorry if you saw this already, just makin sure)

It was me with the international waters...primarily after seeing the map with water territory and realizing some nations would not be able to leave the continent in their own waters. International opens good stuff to and cuts down on conflicts.

Posted.
Just wondering, where are you going with this? A little land? That be cool. God knows I'd do anything to get out of this war now.

I have no idea where I'm going with this. Right now, I'm just making it a vacation. Twill be an amazing magical journey, complete with playing pinball only using the sense of smell.

Posted.
Just wondering, where are you going with this? A little land? That be cool. God knows I'd do anything to get out of this war now.

The war with my nation?

Velkya, since you are apparently on a different continent, but would still like to participate, is there any chance we could show the two continents on sort of a "World Map"? Just wondering.

I'm actually not on a different countinent, there's a bit of land to the west of me which belongs to -Octavia-, a RL friend of mine. It's just a great big island, if you will. If you would like me to change it so I'm connected to the mainland, that's cool.

The war with my nation?
Yes, that one. I'm not doing so good, am I?
And at Velkya:Whatever you want. Just give the word.

Cool, I'll leave the plans as is then.

Intracircumcordei, you up for a little Island war? my nations in need of more lands...and well the islands are the only things near by that might not have as much of amilitary force as say the main lands.

Let me know if your interested. The little war would be just with the islands, i dont really want it to spill over into our main land.

Yes, that one. I'm not doing so good, am I?
And at Velkya:Whatever you want. Just give the word.


Depends on how far you will go to 'win', but remember the map...your dealing with ONE town of pissed off civilians. Reinforcements are on the way to...it'd be easy to let them capture the government building and end the war in a peace treaty. ^-^

I guess I was accepted....thanks.... I thank

bump

Bump for my good friend Florintine. :p

I added a whole land mass to the bottem of the map. I think it makes it much more realistic and now you can have a semi-tropical land area. It also adds alot of strategic locations and makes the middle more of a bay area. I think its cool.
But I just realized that now I'm going to need even more people. I wish I had gotten to that guy who was looking for land sooner.

I still want some.....And If you want I can take more.

I didn't add you? I'm sorry, I thought I did.
Where do you want?

The land east of Azazia, I dont care what amount. But I wont refuse a generous portion....:)

One quick request: could you reduce some of the ammount of land to the south? As of right now, there isn't much room for naval battles, and anyone hoping to launhc a naval strike will have a LOT of people breathing down their necks.

One quick request: could you reduce some of the ammount of land to the south? As of right now, there isn't much room for naval battles, and anyone hoping to launhc a naval strike will have a LOT of people breathing down their necks.
Well, there really is quite a bit of room if you remember how big of an area this is. But I will take a little bit away in the south.

I took away some land. I hope its enough.

Could I have a colony on this continent, I'm a new nation but I'm already due to be placed next to another nation, if so I'd like the Peninsula in the unclaimed land between Raven Corps and Xharn

Done.
If you know anyone who needs some land, just point them here.

bump

I took away some land. I hope its enough.
:D Sweet, thanks! I was just worried about how many choke-points there were. It makes naval battles difficult when passage can be cut off by a few well-placed shore defense turrets.

Can I grab a piece of land at the bottom so I can start a navy?

:D Sweet, thanks! I was just worried about how many choke-points there were. It makes naval battles difficult when passage can be cut off by a few well-placed shore defense turrets.
Well, I did put that one choke point there so its kind of like the one in the middle east-bad for shipping. Think about it, that would be an AMAZING rp, if someone was to do it.

And sure, I'll give you something. Though, it doesn't matter if you have land there if you cant ship goods there in the first place. EDIT: You want some of those islands?

Ya...I can fly goodies in from above to.

Ya...I can fly goodies in from above to.
Ahh, forgot about that. So where exactly would you like?

Actually, I could launch a force to sieze that choke-point in the name of my nation, claim it and hold all the nations within it under my forgiving hands until after it fills up, then I close it and demand high taxes. Would be a fair RP, I'd say.

Actually, I could launch a force to sieze that choke-point in the name of my nation, claim it and hold all the nations within it under my forgiving hands until after it fills up, then I close it and demand high taxes. Would be a fair RP, I'd say.
Yes, you could! But, considering how just about every nation in Irathria needs it, you would probally face a massive invasion. But yes, it would make a pretty cool RP.

The islands in the east, out in the middle of the sea or the ones in the inlet. Either is great. (Out farther is better for me though)

Done.

Yay! Thanks Flor.

I'm planning on a Maritime Conference thing after the war, since were bound to have problems with rules on the high seas. Anyone interested?

Since I have sea now, I will. Still backing the International Waters idea though. :)

Since I have sea now, I will. Still backing the International Waters idea though. :)
What idea? I'm guessing its something I missed. I was thinking of a standered amount of national waters, and then some international also. Maybe even some garbage dumping laws, I don't know. I just want my lobsters to stay alive.
:D

LOL Lobsters stay alive. Trash won't be a problem... Asbena will buy it >.>

SAVE THE LOBSTERS!
*not a bump in disguise*

Lobsters taste good.
*bump in disguise*

for all those afraid of any naval stoppage of trade, the UK offers in Kingsland a sea-rail-sea freight connection. From the port city of Charlotte on the inland sea, containers are loaded onto high-speed, wide-gauge freight trains that run north to Port Marlton, which borders the ocean to the north. For a nominal fee you have easy access to the open expanse of ocean to the north without having to worry about any naval blockades and stoppage of freight.

but as for a naval conference, I'm game... and if possible, I have some ideas on uses for the islands adjacent to Asbena's offshore colony. If you'd like I could write up some posts about the UK claiming the land and all that jazz, though it wouldn't be until later this weekend.

Sure.

excellent, but now i'm off for a while

much appreciated, by the way

a bump

Well, if there was a naval treaty, I'd like to see a section of it be something like the Washington treaty. (EDIT: for size restrictions, not numbers of ships) Make some real navy strategy, instead of mindless UBER11 dreadnought size competetions.

I point at the battle off Samar. Small ships are awesome, especially when used well. But not when you have mile-long dreads that can shrug fire from anything short of a Tac-Nuke. Then the point of destroyers is almost rendered moot.

I'd gladly give up the eight Dreads that I have and convert them into shore defense posts to get naval warfare down to size.

:rolleyes: Um, I definatly wasn't going to bring this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=406703) back. No way.

Do that and you will see the rise of the Yasha Bomber...even SD's will sink to it!

That ship has been discussed to death. Twice. It has been decided that it is almost invincible, save Orbital Bombings, with a support group. But, it costs so much I can't afford ONE right now.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=470604

where I shall be detailing the development of my new island colony, well it's actually a colony consisting of a bunch of islands. Being near tropical and slightly off the continent and separated by deep water, would it be alright to assume a sort of volcanic chain or something and thus some sort of structure/climate roughly analagous to Hawaii or the Caribbean?

I'm also working on a map based off the one provided, though for the islands I blew it up by quite a bit and thus embellished on the coastlines somewhat for clarity and more detail. When I get around to it I'll post info on them too.

lots more work for these little islands... but I'm off for now, hopefully I'll get to it later this weekend...

Yes, it would be somewhat like the Hawaiian Islands. Actually, thats exactly what I was going for there.

Thats what I do for maps too. Just blow it up, and add in the details. I do it quite often actually. It really makes you want to make it extrodenarily detailed.

The Republic of Koryan doesn't really think it needs to attend the Naval Conference. Screw with my ships, I'll screw up your country. That is all.

well i take it no one will mind if i spred south towards the islands and the mainland? if not i'll make the post. I'll take it there would be native population there, so if anyone would want to RP that im not bothered.

so long as they're not the uncoloured islands with Asbena's overseas colony... those are UK islands sans the colouring

Just making sure that y’all still know I’m active.

And Florintine, can you make a bigger (Around 300 to 350 KB size) map of my island? Keep the mountain stuff on it. I need to update my map and make it better to read.

well i take it no one will mind if i spred south towards the islands and the mainland? if not i'll make the post. I'll take it there would be native population there, so if anyone would want to RP that im not bothered.
Sure, go ahead. Just don't take too too much, I want more countries in there.

And I'll go make that map for you.

yea time for corporate expansion!!!!!!! woot!

Can I RP the transfer of people to the offshore islands?

I am going to start the production of bio-weapons factories in the area. Plus the building of my Security Forces breeding sector. I can always use another....

Yes you can Asbena.


And thats fine with me Raven Corps. Just don't kill the lobsters!

Asbena won't react kindly to bio-weapons in the area. Just to let you know. Our people react extremely poorly to 'God weapons'.

el bumpo

And I'll go make that map for you.

Thanks!