NationStates Jolt Archive

We know this thread looks interesting to you. And we really need the Ottoman Empire, Portugal, and the Netherlands...

Hey, why not you? Yes, YOU!!! Come join this thread and be a part of the show!!!

I don't think the tactics are working...

best read the Thread to get a good piture but for the most part this RP is based on the year 1930 save the Seven Years' War never happened...

list of still claimable nations

Ottoman Empire
Portugal
Holland

this list is for claimable nations of lesser importance
Poland
Denmark-Norway
Mughal Empire
Sweden
The Papal States
Ethiopia
Venice
Bavaria
Hawaii
Afghanistan
Hesse
Munster
Cologne
The Palatinate
Mecklemburg
Holstien
Wurzburg
Lundburg
Anhalt
Genoa
Modena
Florence
Padua
Naples
Switzerland

this is the most reasent map (http://s15.invisionfree.com/Naktan_Industries/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=191043) that we have. though it is more then likly to change at least a little

claimed nations:

Spain(Nebarri Prime)
England(The Beltway)
China(Naktan)
Russia(Quaon)
France(Titicus)
Sardinia-Piedmont(Lachenburg)
Austria(Czar Natovski Romanov)
Japan(Zatoichis)
Siam(Mare Serenus)
Prussia(Altusha)

Please review the above stated quote...

And please consider joining this thread...

We need good RPers who know who to handle history and good diplomacy...

Naktan - I say that we should give them until the weekend before we each take on one other nation. Hopefully, people will sign up.

People not yet participating in this - Join! Please?

Just to give you guys a heads up, I'll have a history compiled very soon (perhaps by tommorow night).

Excellent! Now, if only other people would join...

May I claim the Republic of Lucca? Supposing pre-Seven Years War countries are possible choices then Lucca should be one, though not a very strong one.

I have a bit of a connection to Lucca since most of my ancestors in the past 10 generations have been descended from people who lived within Lucca.

It'd be very small [about 200k citizens] so I think I'd make it a nation with military training for all citiens [male and female] above the age of 18. It's still be a republic, but with a very strong leadership. Likely a Syndicalist/Corporatist nation.

I'll work on the very basic details if I can get the nation, though I'd like to make a man named Adomo Dominici one of the leaders.

Lucca is valid, although there might be an error, in review of the choice of city-states in Italty [Modena should be a part of Austria I believe...]

Contact Nebarii Prime, see if its alright with him :)

To everyone who does not have a history and is on this thread:

PLEASE POST A HISTORY ASAP!!!

While I wouldn't mind conquering the world in thirty days with minimal effort, it's not fun to simply have two nations to play around with. Once we get the histories settled, we can get on with starting this thread finally. FYI, if we start this thread with the people we have now [IF!!!], once the thread starts, there will be NO revising of the history to accomodate new players - they will have to conform to the history that we have set, because they did not want to spend the time to deal with this now [sorry to thosee who join later and didn't know about this...but it's too hectic to worry about those things...if we start adjusting the histories, there would be too much to change in the present moment (as noted already) and it just wouldn't work out in the long term to have a cohesive history for this thread].

There should a list of nations available, although for certain we need the Ottoman Empire, Portugal, and the Netherlands [although if you want other nations, I personally wouldn't mind it that much - but PLLLEASE take those nations if anything else...and in the end anyway, it's up to Nebarii Prime who can join this thread and what countries they can take...]. So, join please if you're readinng this thread and are interested.

For a brief synopsis of this thread, imagine the world without the Seven Years' War! Imagine the ideas of the Enlightenment, never expressed in the American Revolution, or the French Revolution [as least as they would have happened]! Imagine a Europe, still clinging to the Holy Roman Empire in 1930! Imagine an Asia that has modernized and competes with the Western powers for global dominance [or global cooperation...]! That is our world! Basically, forget everything you know about the Napoleonic Wars [apparently, he goes to India and wins France a competing empire with the UK]! Forget everything you know about the Opium Wars! Forget everything you know about the Prussian hegemony in Germany [I think Austria and Prussia are still fighting over that one...]! Forget everything that you know about the world as you know it today!!! That is our world! And we have all composed [the ones that did it anyway...] a comprehensive history of our nations as if things were in this way. France and Britain are still at each others necks for global empire [albeit more tacit and cooperative]. China has grown into a modern fatherly-Asian state that seeks to oppose the Western imperialist drives in Asia. The Ottoman Empire still clings to its last bastions of Islamic autonomy. Heck, even Ethiopia gets a break and conquers a lot of the Sudan [although I know no other reason other than to compete against the French...]! So if any of this sounds interesting to you, PLEASE FOR THE LUVAGOD JOIN THIS THREAD AS THE OTTOMAN EMPIRE, PORTUGAL, AND THE NETHERLANDS!!! [or any nation on the list...]

Thank you for your time and consideration in regarding this thread... We hope to hear from you!

If you guys really need it, I could switch to Portugal (although I may need to find the list of what territories have and have not been claimed round the world).

Plus, I'm sure Voxio could do a better job as Sardinia-Piedmont than I could.

If you guys really need it, I could switch to Portugal (although I may need to find the list of what territories have and have not been claimed round the world).

Plus, I'm sure Voxio could do a better job as Sardinia-Piedmont than I could.

If you're willing, I don't see a reason against doing that...

Just an FYI, Portugal has the following territories accoding the map:

Portugal
Azores
Cape Verde
Brazil
Sao Tome and Principe
Mozambique
Goa
Namibia
Macau

If you're going to be Portugal, please get a history in as soon as you can so that we can resolve our differences...[in part because China wants to purchase Macau back...and there are some things that I think Spain wants to resolve too...]

Voxio, do you want Sardegna-Piedmont?

If you're willing, I don't see a reason against doing that...

Just an FYI, Portugal has the following territories accoding the map:

Portugal
Azores
Cape Verde
Brazil
Sao Tome and Principe
Mozambique
Goa
Namibia
Macau

If you're going to be Portugal, please get a history in as soon as you can so that we can resolve our differences...[in part because China wants to purchase Macau back...and there are some things that I think Spain wants to resolve too...]

Voxio, do you want Sardegna-Piedmont?

Alright then, I'll get to making a history. Expect it sometime this afternoon of this evening. And China, if you wish to contact me about Macau, please feel free to send me a TG.

When Princess Maria Francisca, King Joseph I of Portugal's eldest daughter, succeeded her father as the 26th (or 27th according to some historians) Portuguese monarch, she became the first Queen regnant of a 650-year-old decadent country that was economically unstable and socially unbalanced. Her father's right-hand man, Sebastião José de Carvalho e Melo, already titled Count of Oeiras and Marquis of Pombal, had been ruling the country and its Empire with a strong hand for 27 years. Maria I and the Marquis disliked each other, and Maria had been one of his fiercest detractors in the previous years. When she was crowned she immediately dismissed and exiled him to Pombal. The Queen also issued one of the world's first restraining orders, commanding that Sebastião de Melo should not be closer than 20 miles from her presence, and if she were to travel near his estates, he was compelled to remove himself from his house to fulfill the royal decree. She is also reported to have had tantrums at the slightest reference to her father's former Prime Minister.

Queen Maria is said to have suffered from religious mania and melancholia, and consequently she was incapable of handling state affairs after 1799 and so her son, Prince John of Braganza became Prince-Regent. Queen Maria died in 1816, and was succeeded by the Prince-Regent who reigned as John VI of Portugal.

Due to growing liberal movements within the country, Brazil was promoted to the status of Kingdom on December 16, 1816, and the country changed its name to United Kingdom of Portugal, Brazil and Algarves. To aggravate the situation, the former colony was now able to trade directly with other European powers, greatly damaging mainland Portugal's commercial interests, and benefiting Great Britain (as the country was governed by William Beresford in the absence of the Royal Family in Rio de Janeiro).

Two years earlier, Manuel Fernandes Tomás, José Ferreira Borges, José da Silva Carvalho and João Ferreira Viana, had founded the Sinédrio, a liberal clandestine organization that would later be involved in the Revolution. Influenced by the ideals of Enlightenment figures, a liberal revolution started in Oporto on January 1st, 1820, quickly spreading without resistance to several other cities, culminating with the revolt of Lisbon. The revolutionaries demanded the immediate return of the Royal Court to mainland Portugal in order to "restore the metropolitan dignity". They also demanded that a constitutional monarchy would be set up in Portugal. Finally, the revolutionaries wanted to restore Portuguese exclusivity of trade with Brazil, reverting Brazil to the status of a colony.

William Beresford was replaced by a Provisional Junta and the "General Extraordinary and Constituent Cortes (Courts) of the Portuguese Nation" were summoned on January 1, 1821, to draft a new Constitution. Press and book censorship and the Inquisition were lifted, and an amnesty to those involved in anti-liberal movements was ordered. On April 26, 1821, John VI departed to Lisbon. He arrived on July 3 of the same year, and his heir-apparent Prince Peter, became regent of the Vice-Kingdom of Brazil, with an informal understanding — known as the Bragança Agreement that he was to take the crown if Brazil came to be independent.

Peter meant to rule frugally and started by cutting his own salary, centralizing scattered government offices, and selling off most of the royal horses and mules. He issued decrees eliminating the royal salt tax, to spur the output of hides and dried beef; he forbade arbitrary seizure of private property, required a judge's warrant for arrests of freemen, and banned secret trials, torture, and other indignities. He also sent elected deputies to the Portuguese Assembly (Cortes). Slaves continued to be bought and sold and disciplined with force, however, despite his assertion that their blood was the same colour as his.

In September 1821, the Portuguese Assembly, with only a portion of the Brazilian delegates present, voted to abolish the Kingdom of Brazil and the royal agencies in Rio de Janeiro, thus subordinating all provinces of Brazil directly to Lisbon. Accordingly, troops were sent to Brazil, and all Brazilian units were placed under Portuguese command. On September 29, the Cortes ordered the return of Prince Peter to Europe in order to initiate a voyage of study in Spain, France and England, while in Brazil, the Governmental Junta in São Paulo and the Senate of the Chamber of Rio de Janeiro implored for the Prince to stay. In January 1822, tension between Portuguese troops and the Luso-Brazilians (Brazilians of Portuguese ancestry) turned violent when Peter refused to comply and vowed to stay. He had been moved by petitions from Brazilian towns, and by the argument that his departure and the dismantling of the central government would trigger separatist movements.

The atmosphere was so charged that Prince Peter sought assurances of asylum on a British ship in case he lost the looming confrontation; he also sent his family to safety out of the city. After Peter's decision to defy the Cortes, the "lead feet," as the Brazilians called the Portuguese troops, rioted before concentrating on Cerro Castello, which was soon surrounded by thousands of armed Brazilians. Peter then "dismissed" the Portuguese commanding general and ordered him to remove his soldiers across the bay to Niterói, where they would await transport to Portugal. In the following days, the Portuguese commander delayed embarkation, hoping that expected reinforcements would arrive. And indeed they did.

On March 5th, 1822, 25,000 Portuguese Forces landed outside of Rio de Janiero, defeating armed Revolutionaries outside the city limits. Over the next three months, similar pitched battles along the coast would occur with thousands of more Portuguese troops landing ashore at São Paulo, Belem, Recife, and Porto Alegre, using brute force and superior weaponry to route the Revolutionaries under Peter's command. For four years the "Brazilian War of Independence" waged with both sides taking heavy casulaties. However, on April 17th 1825, Prince Peter, bravely commanding his weary soldiers near the former Provincial Capitol, was captured after an enemy bayonet attack isolated his soldiers from the rest of the Revolutionaries. At once, morale plummeted and the Independence movement splinetered apart as rival factions sought to fill the vacum left by their grand leader's capture but the cause was mostly hopeless. By 1830, the majority of Brazil had been returned to its pre-1816 status of a colonial territory of Portugal. Although it was expected that future colonial rule would be harsh and uncomprimising, a surprise was in store for the inhabitants of Brazil.

At once, Peter was taken to Rio de Janiero where he boarded a vessel bound for the Portuguese capitol 3 thousand miles away. Two weeks later, on May 1st, he was brought before the Imperial court, including his ailing father, to defend his actions in Brazil. Although many within the Kingdom sought Peter's execution for treason, his father, on the verge of death, saw immense strength in his eldest son and subsiquently pardoned him of all crimes against the state. Of course, most conservatives and traditionalists, including Peter's younger brother Miguel, were outraged by the decision but could do little as the liberal majority still admired the heir-apparent and his policies.

On the death of his father, Pedro chose to inherit his title as King of Portugal (Pedro IV) on March 10, 1826 with great ambitions for the nation. As a grand admirer of the British Empire and its policies, Peter sought to modernize Portugal in the same fashion, immedeately setting in place efforts to enlarge education, infastructure and general welfare budgets. Spurred on by the theories of well known British economist Alexander Hamilton (OCC: I'm assuming this would be the path he would take without the Revolution) Pedro took steps to enlarge the Industrial and Financial sectors of the homeland, first by establishing the Bank of Portugal and next by pressuring the legislature to pass a series of tariff acts to encourage domestic industry.

Meanwhile, in the colonies, the machines of the Industrial Revolution were quickly making slave labor, which had dominated the Portuguese colonial system for the past 400 years, woefully obsolete. And, whilst under British pressure to end the Atlantic Slave trade, Pedro found it a great oppurtunity to further enhance industrial capability. Thus, in 1835, following the lead of the United Kingdom, the King offically delcared the abolishment of slavery and those oppressed under it, throughout the empire while simeltaneously presenting subsidies to any and all Industries willing to invest in the development of automated farm equipment. At first, the proposition fared poorly as budgets fell and chaos reigned in Brazil and several assassination attempts were made of the Monarch's life. By 1840, the country fell into the midst of a full-blown economic Depression after a series of scandals involving the National Bank provoked a finanical panic. However, Peter was resolute on continuing his government programs and borrowed heavily from Britain, France and Spain to keep the country afloat.

It would not be until 1853 when productivity, spurred on by new railroad lines in Portugal, Angola and Brazil, rose dramatically that the economic state of the nation returned to normal. By then the national debt was the largest in the world, surpassing anyother industrialized nation by nearly three-fold. If Portugal was to remain as a world power, a tight fiscal policy was needed, although the King refused. It would not be until his death in 1861 when Portugal's greatest problem would be tackled. Under Pedro the V, Peter's eldest son, a new, more conservative policy was intiated, aimed to cut government spending by over 40% and adopt a more lassiez-faire type trade policy with the world. Both initiatives, although supported by traditionalists, came under harsh criticism by the left which still insisted on maintaining such policies despite the forboding doom of economic collapse. But by 1865, government programs had been reduced to only 60% of their former status and government salaries were cut by as much as 50%. Meanwhile, Portuguese diplomats across the modern world negotiated to reduce tariffs and consolidate debt.

When the 1860's ended, Portugal stood on far better economic ground than only a decade ago. And although her wealth and status did not nearly compare with that of London or Paris, the citizenry, motivated by the newly swirling ideas of nationalism, felt proud of their country. But with tensions rising across the world, peace would not last for long and as a colonial power, it was assured that the small Kingdom would be caught up in the mess.

OCC: 1870-1930 history to be provided shortly.

OOC - Portugal: Hamilton is indeed an economist, along with being a journalist and a legislator in the semi-autonomous republic of America. He does a little of everything, like many other colonial figures.
Is your history mostly the same as that of RL Portugal (minus the failure of Brazilian independence)? Just curious.

OOC - Portugal: Hamilton is indeed an economist, along with being a journalist and a legislator in the semi-autonomous republic of America. He does a little of everything, like many other colonial figures.
Is your history mostly the same as that of RL Portugal (minus the failure of Brazilian independence)? Just curious.

Indeed it is (although there is, as you said, no Brazilian Independence, no Liberal Wars between Miguel and Peter and a bigger effort is put forth towards modernization).

Alright then, I'll get to making a history. Expect it sometime this afternoon of this evening. And China, if you wish to contact me about Macau, please feel free to send me a TG.

I thought i sent a telegram, but I'm not sure... in any case, I repeat what I said in the TG...

1849 - Realizing that China is starting to lose its grip on the affairs of Asia, HuangShuo sends an emissary to Spain to discuss peaceful terms of a semi-formal alliance in the Pacific, granted their interests are mutual in the defense of the South China Seas [Taiwan and the Philippines], hoping to improve his ties with the West and likewise maintain a strong militay presence in all of the other Asian nations [Vietnam, Korea, and Japan]. The Spanish King accepted the proposals in a toast in the Imperial Emissary's tour of Sevilla.

1850 - HuangShuo, noting with some disdain that Portugal maintains a large presence in Macau, not too far from Dongjing, sends a request to Portugal in regards to the purchase back of the territory...(pending if Portugal comes, how they would react)...HuangShuo leads the fleet out for an exercise in the Tsuchima Straits.

China is willing to purchase the territory for 10mil yuan.

New, small update to my history: A History of the English People (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10418293&postcount=14)

I would like to join as the Ottoman Empire

OOC - Huzzah! An Ottoman Empire!
The Ottoman Empire in this rp remains mostly intact. To ensure this, perhaps you could speed up the Tanzimat reforms (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanzimat) that improved the state dramatically. Note that you have simmering rebellions in Greece, Romania, Bulgaria, Arabia, and the Balkans.
Two out of three in one day!

Voxio, do you want Sardegna-Piedmont?
No, though if any conflict comes up between Italians and other nations I would be happy to Role-Play the Italians. Currently I like the idea of being Lucca, though if I get the chance I'd probably wanna expoand into Tuscano lands. A very small portion of my family comes from Pisa, so if anybody plans to invade you could call on me.

If you guys will let me be Lucca I'll put up a history and maybe even the basics of my government.

I still need the following to be resolved...

1823 - Despite being in the midst of war, the Emperor HuangShuo sends out emmissaries to the UK, France, Spain, Austria, and Russia to gain official recognition and attain military supplies. The Emperor send an armistice plea to the Empress Dowager, who ignores it, assuming that she is winning the war. The Spanish king offers a trade agreement and minor agreement on the recognition of the Shi claim to China. The Austrian Emperor offered military supplies, drill instructors, and important trade and recognition agreements... All of these actions helped to confide the trust of the Shi Emperor against the Qing.

1856 - On the 36th anniversary of the Shi Dynasty, HuangShuo sends out invitations to all the nations with which he formally recognizes: UK, Spain, Austria, Siam [Vietnam, Korea, Japan, France, Russia, Sweden, Ottomans, Portugal, Denmark, Bavaria, Genoa, Venice, Modena, Sardinia, Mughals, Persia, and Ethiopia] (how many come and how does it go?). During the celebrations, HuangShuo introduces the world politics to his son, and furthermore introduces the world to the modernizing China, to which the Western powers should take into regard, as technologically, China is near their equal in many matters. (From 1776 to 1856 [really 1820-1856], China modernizes considerably rapidly and to minimal instability crises). Many of the present legations offers words of great encouragement and humility to the vast developments and integration that the Shi Dynasty has accomplished in its history, to which HuangShuo offers the same remarks to those friendly nation. During the trip, the British legation attempts to convince HuangShuo to attack Japan, considering the rebellious nature of the Japanese pirates around the Tsushima Straits; HuangShuo decides to decline for the moment. The Siamese legation brings up talks to initiate a call to alliance, for consensual military action. His Excellency decides in his wisdom to accept the call.

1858 - HuangShuo goes to Constantinople to secure better relations with the Turks and to help bolster their falling position in Europe.

1872 - YongQin declares war on the Mughal Empire, in rage over some issues on the treatment of Muslims in his country. He sends an emissary to the UK to propose an alliance against the Mughals.

1903 - War with [someone...anyone?]. WaiMa goes out to secure support from Spain [whomever] against [the said blah].

1905 - War ends [how?...].

1913 - With meditation from [whoever isn't fighting], China and Japan conclude peace, on the terms that Japan complies with the Chinese calls to modernize, China receives its fair share of territory, Britain receives its fair share of territory [Okinawa and the like], and reparations of 10mil yuan are paid to each of the participating countries [China, Vietnam, Korea, Siam, and UK]. At home, WaiMa is hailed as a national hero.

1923 - ZhengTzi pledges a grand sum of 500mil yuan to solve the problem of infrastructure inadequacies in China, hoping to connect China to all parts of the country. With improved transportation to the autonomous provinces in the west and the ever-present dissentors in the north, ZhengTzi wants a better way to manage his affairs in travelling from one part of the country to another. ZhengTzi sends a mission to Moscow to develop cooperation with Russia in maintaining security and stability on the Russia-China border, extending some thousands of kilometers from Afghanistan to the Amur River (pending Russia's response).

1924 - After an assassination attempt by Muslim nationals, ZhengTzi begins a forceful policy in controlling the Muslim population while realizing that their dissent resulted from poor living standards and relations with the Muslim world. In an attempt to ameliorate the religious tensions in China, he orders the construction of a mosque in Wushi, the capital of Sinkiang; visits Cairo and Makkah, pledging tolerance of Muslim practices in China; and opens trade dialogues with the Mughals and the Afghans. After his tour in Ottoman Arabia, ZhengTzi visited Vienna and Paris.

1927 - A major revolt in Heilongjiang province nearly unsettles the government as ZhengTzi carefully trots the line between authoritative force and enlightened despotism. He arrived in Harbin to negotiate with the rioting factions, until the scene became so violent that he ordered the city under martial law. After two weeks of the order, he agreed to meet the more moderate faction leaders in Beijing, where they resolved the issue, dealing with ethnicity rights, labor practice management, and some liberalization of the strict anti-Confucian ideals, enforced since the time of HuangShuo. Later, ZhengTzi pledged to enforce moderation and tolerance of religious beliefs in China [considering that China had become a boiling pot of Protestantism, Catholicism, Islam, Buddhism, Confucianism, and even some Hinduism, these orders were out of necessity to avoid extreme reactions]. In following with these orders, he orders the construction of a cathedral in Guangdong, dedicated to Pope Pius VI in his fifth year as the Supreme Pontiff of the Papal States. During the course of the dedications, Emperor Franz II arrives in his first tour of Asia, where Emperor ZhengTzi and Emperor Franz II reaffirms their countries' commitment to the alliance, and further to demonstrates China's role in protecting the religious freedom of Catholics in China. ZhengTzi later visits the Russian capital of Siberia (wherever that is and pending the approval of it), offering to open Chinese ports to Russian trade and merchant fleets [and in times of war where Russia and China do not have conflicting interests, military vessels]. ZhengTzi also visits the Marianas Islands [Maliyana Dao], after the completion of the Governor's Palace in Sandao [on the island of Saipan]. He also visited the docks and the sugarcane plantations there, in the twenty years of development.

1929 - ZhengTzi opens the city of Wushi to an international exposition, having completed the railroad from Wushi to Yajing and to Beijing; the architects in the mosque make it a model of Islamic construction outside the Ottoman Empire, and the numerous technological advances made in China are being displayed for the world to marvel. In all, delegates fromo the UK[all nations wanting to attend the Wushi Expo] arrived in Wushi to acknowledge China's growing role as a modern, industrialized, civil, and powerful state in the century.

Hey, what dates should i make my history from

No, though if any conflict comes up between Italians and other nations I would be happy to Role-Play the Italians. Currently I like the idea of being Lucca, though if I get the chance I'd probably wanna expoand into Tuscano lands. A very small portion of my family comes from Pisa, so if anybody plans to invade you could call on me.

If you guys will let me be Lucca I'll put up a history and maybe even the basics of my government.

I think that it would be better if you just took the whole of Tuscany and played as them [since the map currently has Tuscany, Siena, Genoa, Sardinia, Papal States, Naples, Taranto [under Spain], Venice, and Romagna [I'm considering putting Romagna with the Papal States, but I'm not certain if its agreeable, since Romagna was under the authority of the Papacy for a long time].

So, if you are willing to do Tuscany, build us a simple, cohesive history as soon as you can, that would be great!!! :)

Hey, what dates should i make my history from

1750 to 1930 [which is when the thread starts... :)]

Thanks BTW... :):):)

I think that it would be better if you just took the whole of Tuscany and played as them [since the map currently has Tuscany, Siena, Genoa, Sardinia, Papal States, Naples, Taranto [under Spain], Venice, and Romagna [I'm considering putting Romagna with the Papal States, but I'm not certain if its agreeable, since Romagna was under the authority of the Papacy for a long time].

So, if you are willing to do Tuscany, build us a simple, cohesive history as soon as you can, that would be great!!! :)
Okay, I'll take all of Tuscany. My government will be a federal government made up of the current provinces of Tuscany as indevidual republics.

Is there already a history for Sardinia-Pedimont? If so I may be able to use that to intertwine the histories of the two nations. Same with any other Italian states. I'd search for them, but for some reason I can't use the search function.

Okay, I'll take all of Tuscany. My government will be a federal government made up of the current provinces of Tuscany as indevidual republics.

Is there already a history for Sardinia-Pedimont? If so I may be able to use that to intertwine the histories of the two nations. Same with any other Italian states. I'd search for them, but for some reason I can't use the search function.

Haha! brilliant idea...we make you Italy...[with the separate Italian states working with and against each other - except for maybe the Papal States and the Spanish portions...].

It's probably more than we bargained for, but for certain it would be nice to have Tuscany for now... we'll work with the other states later... :)

FYI the map is here:

http://s15.invisionfree.com/Naktan_Industries/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=191043

Haha! brilliant idea...we make you Italy...[with the separate Italian states working with and against each other - except for maybe the Papal States and the Spanish portions...].

It's probably more than we bargained for, but for certain it would be nice to have Tuscany for now... we'll work with the other states later... :)
I hope you didn't misunderstand. I didn't want to become Italy, I only wanted to make sure my history didn't directly conflict with any histories already written. I would also detail any involvment of tuscany in conflicts that appeared in other's histories.

Though I would be willing to RP the other, unclaimed, states of Italy when in a conflict with a nation other than Tuscany.

I hope you didn't misunderstand. I didn't want to become Italy, I only wanted to make sure my history didn't directly conflict with any histories already written. I would also detail any involvment of tuscany in conflicts that appeared in other's histories.

Though I would be willing to RP the other, unclaimed, states of Italy when in a conflict with a nation other than Tuscany.

I hope that you did misunderstand me...

I said that we'll settle for just Tuscany for now...don't worry about anything else [except for matching the history of your state with other histories, which would be a lot nicer if the veterans of this thread would come out and post their histories...I know there's Portugal and all the others...but we really need one from Russia, Austria, and France (who is supposedly finishing it...)]

Jus Tuscany :)

best read the Thread to get a good piture but for the most part this RP is based on the year 1930 save the Seven Years' War never happened...

list of still claimable nations

Holland

this list is for claimable nations of lesser importance
Poland
Denmark-Norway
Sweden
The Papal States
Venice
Genoa
Sardinia-Piedmont
Florence [Siena]
Padua
Naples
Romagna
Bavaria
Hesse
Munster
Cologne
The Palatinate
Mecklmeburg
Holstein
Wurzburg
Lundburg
Anhalt
Switzerland
Ethiopia
The Mughal Empire
Afghanistan
Hawaii
Vietnam
Korea

claimed nations:

Spain(Nebarri Prime)
England(The Beltway)
China(Naktan)
Russia(Quaon)
France(Titicus)
Portugal(Lachenburg)
Austria(Czar Natovski Romanov)
Japan(Zatoichis)
Siam(Mare Serenus)
Prussia(Altusha)
Tuscany(Voxio)
Ottoman Empire(Vietnamexico)

Please review the above stated...

And please consider joining this thread...

We need good RPers who know who to handle history and good diplomacy...

Could someone explain this to me, please? I'm a bit confused...

Once it gets sorted out, though, I'd like to play as Poland.

OOC - TLS: This is a version of AH in which the Seven Years' War never happened. It starts in 1930; each RL week will be one year. We intend to end in 2006.
Poland is an interesting country stuck between hostile Austria, Prussia, and Russia. Have fun!

OOC - TLS: This is a version of AH in which the Seven Years' War never happened. It starts in 1930; each RL week will be one year. We intend to end in 2006.
Poland is an interesting country stuck between hostile Austria, Prussia, and Russia. Have fun!

OOC: I mean what do I do?

OOC - For now, just put together a history of events from 1754 to 1930. Would you mind playing Holland instead of Poland? We really need Holland (as the only remaining unclaimed colonial power, and as a major player in the East Indies)...

OOC - For now, just put together a history of events from 1754 to 1930. Would you mind playing Holland instead of Poland? We really need Holland (as the only remaining unclaimed colonial power, and as a major player in the East Indies)...

yes i Holland would be nice, as for Poland, they are somewhat week ATM. (or so i would think)

OOC - For now, just put together a history of events from 1754 to 1930. Would you mind playing Holland instead of Poland? We really need Holland (as the only remaining unclaimed colonial power, and as a major player in the East Indies)...

OOC: I'd really rather play Poland. In all these alternate history RP's, Poland always just gets cast aside and crushed. I'd rather that the country that was the first country in Europe to have a constitution, the first country that didn't automatically decide to kill all the Jews and Christians of other denominations as soon as other countries did, and the country that saved Western Civilization from the Turk doesn't get swept aside.

Also, I'm not especially fond of the Dutch. Yes, their weed and hookers are fine enough, but what did they REALLY contribute to the world? I mean, besides adding yet ANOTHER front to WWII, and churning out pirates in the carribean

OOC - Cool. Poland's nice; we (the UK) probably are friendly to it as a bulwark against Russia/Austria. We might quietly discourage Prussia from making moves on you from time to time.

Guys, sorry I haven't posted. I need to write Russias history, okay?

Or, if you guys would rather, I could play the Mughal Empire. Seeing how it is a rather populous country, it might be important. Either way, I'm set.

Guys, sorry I haven't posted. I need to write Russias history, okay?

That would be nice :)

That would be nice :)
It'll be up this week.

Ok, in regard to the Chinese actions: French diplomats and small emissary groups were went to the ceremony (with the son) and the expo. besides that France has little interest in China.

I wish to know if the history Britain and I made for India works for the new Mughal player.

Or, if you guys would rather, I could play the Mughal Empire. Seeing how it is a rather populous country, it might be important. Either way, I'm set.

so your going to be the Mughal Empire not Poland then? just want to make sure before i add you to the list

Im sorry I havnt put up a cohesive history I kindof have bits and pieces everywhere. I will have something better defined up by the end of the week. For now, I have class in 5 hours and need to sleep. Im glad someone has choosen poland and ottomans, I dont think I could really get anything concrete down for myself without 2 large states that border me to converse with.

so your going to be the Mughal Empire not Poland then? just want to make sure before i add you to the list

I'll be the Mughals.

This is coming along very nicely :)

Okay, here's a history:

1700
The Czar Peter the Great is assanated by a rebel party, known simply as the KGB ( :) ), in Russia.

1705
The Russian KGB begins to systematically eliminate all oposition and take control of Russia.

1710
The Russia begins to expand, and the first KGB Lord, Vasali Popov, becomes head of Russia. Russia takes colonies in the Americas.

1725
Vasali Popov is murdered by Neo-Czars, and is replaced by Pozvid Diemetry.

1763
A bloody civil war erupts in Russia. Thousands are killed, and the KGB is overthrown and replaced by a the Neo-Czars.

1766
Czar Peter II takes power, and consolidates Russias power.

1780
Former KGB rebel Vasali Popov (named after the famous KGB lord) surrenders to the Neo-Czars. The Czars have him excueted, and bring about a new age of glory for Russia.

1798
A Englishmen, Paul Smith, becomes Czar after years of proving his loyalty to the Russians. He begins a war of genocide against neighboring countries, and conquers a few.

1845
After years of peace, a rebellion breaks out. After a few months of fighting, Russia is split between the Czar and Neo-KGB party.

1901
Czar Phillipe the Great discovers Marxism, and is instantly convinced. He creates the first communist state in the world. It won't last.

1928
At last, KGB lord Vasali Popov III conquers the Czars. The Czars are destroyed, and so is their short lived dreams of Marxism.

KGB, nice

I'm sure there were some rebel groups around the 1700s that you could use.

I'm sure there were some rebel groups around the 1700s that you could use.
Well...I like the name KGB, but I know it sounds stupid. Any ideas? I was going to give it a russian name, but I don't speak Russian.

That's a nice history, but unless Russia becomes an isolationist empire, you need to include the histories of other countries in your history [I know that I've got alot that I need from you...not sure about the others...]

Well...I like the name KGB, but I know it sounds stupid. Any ideas? I was going to give it a russian name, but I don't speak Russian.

what are you trying to say?

committee of state security? [KGB]
[Комитет Государственной Безопасности]


or...

freedom-fighters anonymous [ABC]
[Анонимные борцы свободы]

That's a nice history, but unless Russia becomes an isolationist empire, you need to include the histories of other countries in your history [I know that I've got alot that I need from you...not sure about the others...]
That's kinda what I intended it to be. Russia wants to expand, but they feel no need to tick others off while they do it.

There's always http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yemelyan_Pugachev, if you want an RL revolutionary. The Cossacks actually mounted several revolts through the 1700s, including one in 1708-1709 and one in 1768-1769.

Now that I think about it, I think I'd rather be Poland. Sorry for all the mind-changing, but it turns out my knowledge of India just isn't enough for what you're asking me to do. However, my knowledge of Poland is large enough, so I think I would be more capable in that position.

Poland is fine, if Nebarii Prime accepts it...

FYI -I'll be out for the rest of the weekend.

Have fun compilinng histories!

1823: Emperor Muhammed Ottoman comes to power at age 15
1834: The Emperor leads his troops in the Battle of Kiev after he tries to take the city from the Russian Empire. He loses the battle and it fatally wounded.
1836: Emperor dies of his wounds and passes away without leaving an heir, sending the empire into a state of chaos.
1841: Kurds in the east declare independence from the Turkish empire amid the chaos.
1843: The Turkish civil war ends as a Turkish aristocrat Juka Ozment takes the throne, the new family recognizes the independent Kurdish state, and the family, who assembled a large army during the war, quickly restores order throughout the empire
1848: Juka Ozment hosts a conference for a few of the countries of the world that the Emperor recognizes. The states include Persia, England, Kurdistan, Austria, Prussia, the Palinate, The Holy Roman Empire, France, China, Mali, Siam and Spain. The Holy Roman Empire and Spain do not arrive. At the conference the Emperor announces his marriage to the Queen of Mali, Queen Verniqua. The marriage virtually gives control of the nation of Mali to the Emperor.
1856: Juka Ozment and Queen Verniqua have a son, Timeteo, thus creating a Ozment dynasty.
1860: Greek Orthodox legalized in the empire after a rebellion by Greek nationalists is put down by the Ozment Army.

what happens when France takes over Mali, as on the map it is a colony of France

Ottoman Empire - Perhaps some sort of legal fiction is arranged in which the Ottomans officially rule Mali, but France is the actual ruler?
Whither Tanizmat? You'll need reforms in order to maintain your empire's strength...

yeah, thats a little iffy. I like the idea that Mali is an unofficial territory of mine by now. By the way I think Mali was long gone by the time we are thinking of

For the Ottomans:

1828 - With friendly relations to the Austrian Empire, HuangShuo visits Vienna to review the Austrian Empire in his first tour of Europe. He begins to assimilate ties with the Ottoman Turks in his trip south to Constantinople, requesting official recognition and diplomatic ties in Turkey.

1856 - On the 36th anniversary of the Shi Dynasty, HuangShuo sends out invitations to all the nations with which he formally recognizes: UK, Spain, Austria, Siam, France, Vietnam, Korea, Japan [Sweden, Ottomans, Portugal, Denmark, Bavaria, Genoa, Venice, Modena, Sardinia, Mughals, Persia, and Ethiopia] (how many come and how does it go?). During the celebrations, HuangShuo introduces the world politics to his son, and furthermore introduces the world to the modernizing China, to which the Western powers should take into regard, as technologically, China is near their equal in many matters. (From 1776 to 1856 [really 1820-1856], China modernizes considerably rapidly and to minimal instability crises). Many of the present legations offers words of great encouragement and humility to the vast developments and integration that the Shi Dynasty has accomplished in its history, to which HuangShuo offers the same remarks to those friendly nation. During the trip, the British legation attempts to convince HuangShuo to attack Japan, considering the rebellious nature of the Japanese pirates around the Tsushima Straits; HuangShuo decides to decline for the moment. The Siamese legation brings up talks to initiate a call to alliance, for consensual military action. His Excellency decides in his wisdom to accept the call.

1858 - HuangShuo goes to Constantinople to secure better relations with the Turks and to help bolster their falling position in Europe. The Renshui Rebellion strikes Shanghai and Nanjing. HuangShuo returns to assume command of the Imperial Army, taking YongQin with him. In the siege of the city, HuangShuo demonstrates his heartless brutality for rebellious subjects, and it falls in some part to YongQin.

1924 - After an assassination attempt by Muslim nationals, ZhengTzi begins a forceful policy in controlling the Muslim population while realizing that their dissent resulted from poor living standards and relations with the Muslim world. In an attempt to ameliorate the religious tensions in China, he orders the construction of a mosque in Wushi, the capital of Sinkiang; visits Cairo and Makkah, pledging tolerance of Muslim practices in China; and opens trade dialogues with the Mughals and the Afghans. After his tour in Ottoman Arabia, ZhengTzi visited Vienna and Paris.

1929 - ZhengTzi opens the city of Wushi to an international exposition, having completed the railroad from Wushi to Yajing and to Beijing; the architects in the mosque make it a model of Islamic construction outside the Ottoman Empire, and the numerous technological advances made in China are being displayed for the world to marvel. In all, delegates fromo the UK, France [all nations wanting to attend the Wushi Expo] arrived in Wushi to acknowledge China's growing role as a modern, industrialized, civil, and powerful state in the century.

UK, remind me if we resolved this...

1872 - YongQin declares war on the Mughal Empire, in rage over some issues on the treatment of Muslims in his country. He sends an emissary to the UK to propose an alliance against the Mughals.

1873 - The war ends with no considerable gains for China. In truth, the war hurt China more than it hurt the Mughals; YongQin begins a general purge against all Muslims in his territory, fearing a rebellion from them. All the purges leads to strikes in the factories across China. YongWin institutes martial order in all the nation's factories.

In general, just tell me if anything needs to be resolved with China, and I also submit my history for review so others may decide how resolve the things [notably this war in 1902-1904 that I just wanted to do...]

Also if there are any territory changes, please post them asap - and if these are conquests, they must be approved by the person who has had those territories conquered from [this might not be so bad if there's a trade of territory in the war or between two wars or whatever].

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10420190#post10420190

Britain rejects the offer; we're busy colonizing Africa and don't want to get more involved in India after the Sepoy Rebellion. If the Company had still been around, however...

Britain rejects the offer; we're busy colonizing Africa and don't want to get more involved in India after the Sepoy Rebellion. If the Company had still been around, however...

thanks for the update...it is noted...makes my job easier :)

any other updates?

OOC: I'd really rather play Poland. In all these alternate history RP's, Poland always just gets cast aside and crushed. I'd rather that the country that was the first country in Europe to have a constitution, the first country that didn't automatically decide to kill all the Jews and Christians of other denominations as soon as other countries did, and the country that saved Western Civilization from the Turk doesn't get swept aside.

Also, I'm not especially fond of the Dutch. Yes, their weed and hookers are fine enough, but what did they REALLY contribute to the world? I mean, besides adding yet ANOTHER front to WWII, and churning out pirates in the carribean

Its good to see someone recognise the attributes of Poland. Too often left out despite being a major empire for a couple hundred years...

Okay, here's a history:

1700
The Czar Peter the Great is assanated by a rebel party, known simply as the KGB ( :) ), in Russia.

1705
The Russian KGB begins to systematically eliminate all oposition and take control of Russia.

1710
The Russia begins to expand, and the first KGB Lord, Vasali Popov, becomes head of Russia. Russia takes colonies in the Americas.

1725
Vasali Popov is murdered by Neo-Czars, and is replaced by Pozvid Diemetry.

1763
A bloody civil war erupts in Russia. Thousands are killed, and the KGB is overthrown and replaced by a the Neo-Czars.

1766
Czar Peter II takes power, and consolidates Russias power.

1780
Former KGB rebel Vasali Popov (named after the famous KGB lord) surrenders to the Neo-Czars. The Czars have him excueted, and bring about a new age of glory for Russia.

1798
A Englishmen, Paul Smith, becomes Czar after years of proving his loyalty to the Russians. He begins a war of genocide against neighboring countries, and conquers a few.

1845
After years of peace, a rebellion breaks out. After a few months of fighting, Russia is split between the Czar and Neo-KGB party.

1901
Czar Phillipe the Great discovers Marxism, and is instantly convinced. He creates the first communist state in the world. It won't last.

1928
At last, KGB lord Vasali Popov III conquers the Czars. The Czars are destroyed, and so is their short lived dreams of Marxism.

What exactly are the aims and desires of the "KGB" in terms of changes in governance and foreign policy. They obviously arnt marxist but Im not sure how Austria should react to thier gaining power. Please elaborate a little on this one.

(1711-1740) Reign of Emperor Charles VI: During the first years of his reign he is unable to father a male child and begins to worry about succession issues and begins a policy of concessions to foreign powers in order to ensure the succession of Theresia(his daughter). However in 1923 a male heir is born, and this ends the policy. Unfortunately before the end of his reign, his son would die due to poor health, and the policy resumes in part.

(1740-1780) Reign of Maria Theresia: When in 1740, Charles VI died, Maria Theresia gained the throne. This in turn sparked the war of Austrian Succession(1740-1748), however Austria was able to hold off Prussia and retain Silesia. However Sicily and Naples were lost to Spain. After the brief reign of Charles VII(elector of Bavaria) as Holy Roman Emperor, Maria's husband Francis of Lorraine is elected emperor. In 1856 war breaks out with Prussia regarding Saxony, in the end Saxony is controlled by Austria and Prussia gains little for her endeavor, however the war is essentially indecisive and Prussia unaffected by her defeat. 1777, War of Bavarian Succession- Austria and Prussia fight over the Kingdom of Bavaria when no heir is apparent. The war ends soon and with little bloodshed, Bavaria is loosely allied to Austria and completely independent from both powers. Maria Theresia dies in 1780, ending her reign in Austria. She does however leave behind a legacy of tolerance, while she maintained the policy of re-catholicizing the "Ancestral Lands", outside of them when Protestantism and orthodoxy is fairly prevalent she promotes tolerance and did not attempt a forceful conversion to Catholicism. She does however seek formal alliances with the mainly Catholic Poland (Do you accept?; the two kingdoms had been friendly since Polish forces came to their aid when Vienna was under siege by the Turks). From Poland she learns how to properly administer a kingdom consisting of a wide variety of differing religions and culture.

(1780-1802) Joseph II and Leopold II: Joseph had been emperor of the Holy Roman Empire (HRE) since 1765 with the death of his father, in 1780 he gained the throne of Austria. However good his intensions were, his policies seemed to fail regardless. His reign saw unsuccessful war with the Ottomans due to threats of alliance with Russia, this in turn encouraged rebellious nobles in Hungary and the Austrian Netherlands(Belgium) to open revolt against the HRE's rule(there had been grievances due to Joseph II's curtailing of the rights of nobles and Church officials in these areas). Luckily Joseph II dies in 1787 and his more capable brother Leopold II gained the throne of Austria and HRE. Peace was commenced with the Turks which allowed him to crush nobles in Hungary and Belgium and send nobles more subjugated to the emperor in their place. In concession to the rebellions, there was greater religious and cultural freedom extended. Subsequently, discord in France led to war i which France attempted at the Austrian Netherlands and lands in Italy. However France soon lost interest and the war had minimal consequences(1793). Leopold II died in 1802, but he left the HRE in much better position for his son, soon the be the emperor. His election went smoothly due to increased control of Hungary and Belgium.

(1802-1815) Reign of Franz II: Franz II saw the true first stirrings of nationalism. He continued the previous emperors' policy of tolerance outside of Austria proper and a few other areas. Within the afore mentioned zones Catholicism was enforced as necessary. this sometimes led to rallies/protests etc. however they werent extensive. Again war would breakout with the Turks in 1813, the end result of which was small, insignificant concessions to the Turks. Franz II's generally poor grasp of foreign policy was made up for his generally benign domestic policy that encouraged commerce by reduced tariffs and levies.

(1815-1848)Incompetent Emperor Ferdinand I: With the death of Francis I in 1815, his young mentally retarded son was crowned Emperor Ferdinand I, however considerable power was relegated to a Prince Metternich. In 1821 Austria attempts colonization in Africa for the first time, however poor planning causes the demise of the expedition and such attempts are abandoned. In 1824 on the whim of the emperor, millitary aid is given to the Shi forces in China and relations are formalized. More repressive measures are put into effect as Metternich has a differing view on ruling than past Emperors have, additionally Ferdinand is easily influenced by church officials into support of missionary activities. 1835, an alliance with Russia is sought towards the aim of gaining land from the Ottomans (Russia, do you accept?, if so I'll go to war with the Turks). Repressive policies result in the various 1848 revolutions the result of which is further suppression and the execution of rebels. However as a result pressure is exerted by various forces and Metternich and Ferdinand I are forced to abdicate in favor of the newly crowned Emperor Franz Joseph I.

(1848-1916) Reign of Franz Joseph I: Reenacted previous policies of tolerance. In 1848 authorized the freedom of peasantry throughout the HRE. The resulting influx of peasants to cities created crowded conditions that sparked bouts of ethnic/nationalistic riots because of the multi-ethnic nature of the cities. While somewaht tempered by the prevalent attitude of tolerance by the monarch of Austria, such sentiments still pose a significant threat to Austria. The peasants' freedom also encouraged industrialization and soon railroads and factories popped up throughout the HRE. This however proceeded at a slower rate than in other major European powers(with the A. Netherlands, Modena and other Italian regions being an exception wherein industrialization was rapid and widespread). In 1853 Austria again tried at an African colony, this time with the aid of Ethiopia, Austria was able to subjugate Somalia by 1855. In return Austria pledged to uphold Ethiopia’s Monarchy and aid it in the event of foreign invasion. In 1856 Franz I sends a representative to china for the 36th anniversary of the Shi Dynasty. From 1860 to 1875 a policy of peace is pursued within and without the empire, however tensions exist regarding nationalism, creation a pan-Germanic empire and Turkic rule of Christians. In 1875 war breaks out with the Turks ( would Russia want to engage in this war? what are the results?). 1901, any ties existing with Russia are severed due to Marxist policies despite previously ongoing support of the Czars against the KGB. 1900-1916, Franz Joseph I incorporates a few small Germanic states into Austria and looks to connect Belgium with the rest of Austria. 1914, an attempted assassination of Franz Joseph(heir apparent to the Austrian Thrones) by Serbian anarchists, foiled by locals and police contingents on-site. Subsequently Serbia crushes various dissident political societies in response to Austrian threats and criticisms.

(1913-1930) Franz Joseph II: Franz Joseph gains the throne of Austria and the HRE upon the death of longtime Emperor Franz Joseph I. 1923 delegation sent to China regarding an official alliance which is concluded. Continued tensions in Germany and regarding unification. 1927- Franz Joseph II visits emperor Zheng Zhi in China in light of increased French-Austrian hostilities. 1928, Franz Joseph II holds back in recognizing Lord Vasali Popov III as Russian ruler, unsure of the implications of his rise to power. (ooc :subject to change, I filled in some things as far as what other nations do, if you have issues with this please tell me so I can fix it, also if there’s something relating to you, like an alliance or war please post something regarding that.)

P.S. Sorry for taking so long to put this up :P

FYI - Franz [German] = Francis [English]...

Otherwise, GOOD JOB :)

heh, youre right I musta gotten lazy towards the end. Fixing now. Francis I was his anglosized name and he only had that title as emperor of austria, as HRE he would have Franz II.

anyone else? I'm still waiting for Ottomans...

FYI TO ALL - This thread has been resurrected...please continue to make contributions!!!

Thoughts on rules:
Wars - must give a war warning first (either an OOC message like this (for surprise attacks):Hey, France, we're going to launch a surprise attack on you today.
or an IC diplomatic message like this:To the Foreign Ministry of Great Britain -
If you do not sign a status quo ante bellum peace treaty with France in one week, then we will declare war on you.
Signed,
The Foreign Minister of Spain
Further, set up a separate IC thread for the war.

Time - one Long Eighteenth Century (LEC hereafter) year = one RL week; however, this does not mean that each day is one-seventh of a year. Rather, all it means is that each year will take one week, regardless of how it's divided.

Threads - we'll need to set up a separate OOC thread, along with N/D threads for each nation.

NPCs - each nation may have two NPCs (NPCs are small powers, such as Italian/German minors or Hawaii, Switzerland, or Afghanistan). Do not abuse your NPCs; they aren't automatically allies, nor are they going to fail to defend themselves effectively.

Suggestions/Thoughts/Critiques/Comments? Reply.

Seems reasonable...I know which two would NPCs for China :) [Korea and Vietnam, but I'm still opening them to other players...]

I think the way that I written Thailand's history for this game, they would not have any NPC's.

Just asking, does anybody mind me King Niran as something of a genius?

I think the way that I written Thailand's history for this game, they would not have any NPC's.

Just asking, does anybody mind me King Niran as something of a genius?

make him a genius? sure, as long as he doesn't discover superconductors on a test flight to alpha centaurii...

oh, we weren't supposed to invent those yet, oooh

anyone else? I'm still waiting for Ottomans...

Is poland posting a history, or anyone else? or did they disappear?

I don't know where Poland went...

And my point for the genius comment was to give an example of something that was NOT acceptable...

My NPCs will be Hawaii - so that I can run the 'fun (and occasional diplomacy) in the sun' rps for this - and ... Afghanistan - tribal warlords and utter anarchy for millenia makes a recipe for occasionally amusing rps. However, both will be open.

Please note that NPCs are not automatically allies; they're simply nations that you rp, in addition to your own nation, to help build on the storyline of your nation or just to ensure that they get rp'd.

FYI to all out there, we are still open for the Netherlands; if you're willing to put in some extra effort to get this thread started, we can assure you that this will be a very rewarding thread to play :)

And to the guys not posting histories...it would be nice to have something posted before we actually start this thing...

On that note, for the people who have something done, when do you want this thread to start ideally?

Guys, does anyone want to start an invision board for the game? It's easier to use than this forum.

Guys, does anyone want to start an invision board for the game? It's easier to use than this forum.

I'm up for that...just when...

I am fine with any time

Go ahead and set up the invision board; we'll start with who we have, and pick up Holland on the way. If worse came to worse, we'd have someone else rp Holland...

Go ahead and set up the invision board; we'll start with who we have, and pick up Holland on the way. If worse came to worse, we'd have someone else rp Holland...
This is random, but damn, your post count is higher than mine now because when they dumped the spam forum I lost all my posts from there.:headbang:

i'm good with any time

FYI to all, make surer we keep up on this thread, so we don't our access to this forum, so new players can join at pleasure...

and if it hasnt been done already, I can get that forum set up right now...

Hey, I've got experiance with invision. If you can make me admin, I can format it to best fit our needs.

Hey, I've got experiance with invision. If you can make me admin, I can format it to best fit our needs.

are you working on it? cuz I'm fine with it... as long as I know what exactly is going on in the first...what's the time and what's the plot?

EDIT: ehh...I'm working on it now... I'll post the forum here later...

http://s12.invisionfree.com/Long_18th_Century/index.php?act=idx

tentative review...

Registered.

ok :)

i've already given you admin powers :)

keep an eye on this thread for new players...

TO ALL NEW PLAYERS, WE ARE STILl ACCEPTIN PEOPLE TO RP NATIONS...FOR MORE INFO READ FRONT PAGE!!!

if you want to join this RP, TG Nebarii Prime, Quaon, the Beltway, or myself, or any member currently on the list on the first page:

To all those who are the first page, go here!!! http://s12.invisionfree.com/Long_18th_Century/index.php?act=idx

1930 starts on Monday, 27 MARCH 2006!!! JOIN IN AND HAVE FUN!!!

To Russia and Siam (as well as poland):
I am not sure of our relationship as of 1930, How would siam feel about a european power who is essentially allied to china?

What is Russia like, what government type do you possess and what are your aims towards the rest of the world? I would have supported the Czars until they turned marxists, how would the KGB respond once in power? I would look towards you as both an ally, rival, and possibly greatest threat, depending on the issue at hand.

to poland: I would like to have a good relationship with you, in general my policy towards Poland is to leave it as an ally and attempt to limit siezing of Polish territory by Russia and Prussia. However an official defense treaty may be unreasonable unless you can offer me something in exchange(I may be willing to do it).

Hopefully someone will respond soon so I can figure this out!

In response to Czar. Well, for the most part Siam would not care about Russian politics. As long as Russia never tries to muscle into our territory, we really couldn't care about what is happening up there. The royal family is of course concerned when the Czars are killed off and may offer shelter to surviving Romanofs but besides that over history Russia and Siam have ignored each other.

EDIT: Right now the government is a Monarchy.

hehe...

Czar is Austria :)

And on that note, please join this forum!!! :)

http://s12.invisionfree.com/Long_18th_Century/index.php?act=idx

i have sent TGs to all members who are not on the forums yet

As have I. Hopefully, between the two of us, we'll be able to get them to sign up; it wouldn't work well having just seven nations...

TO ALL WHO SEE THIS THREAD!!!

If you are currently a member of this RP, please sign up here if you haven't already!

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If you aren't already a member, sign up HERE, not on the forum itself - if you do, then AT THE VERY LEAST - post your NS name along with the country you want!!!

bump

if no one minds i am going to make a new thread for this, to try and get more people

I'd like to be Korea, if no one has it yet. I didn't see anyone claiming it at the beginning of the thread.

you may join, however this is the current sign up thread because it is more "attreactive" to geting new players

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=475520&page=5