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Ehh, I'll just start fresh on another planet in my claimed space. If you want the history of my Botany colony, check the old thread.

Basically, not much to tell. I came, colonized, started interacting, lost colony to Warp Storm, moved to new planet in a far distant star system. (Besides, I got a little lost as to who was doing what in the thread, when they were doing it, and where).


Note: I'll be moving the new colony thing to another thread.

Link: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10714134#post10714134

OOC:


You should compose an invitation so it would me more in character and interesting.

Good point. I'll do it when I'm not so rushed.

lol i guess we are spawning alot of Cluster RP threads lol. Well you know that council we have put up in the capital how bout the first Cluster Congress can be announced today.

Good point. I'll do it when I'm not so rushed.

Done.

How bout we start the first CLUSTERIAN CONGRESS?

Has anyone seen waterhelper lately?

I guess I will announce the 1st Cluster Congress if he doesnt come back soon.

Im guessing the cluster is on hiatus

It seems Waterhelper, Pananab, Tannelorn, and just about everyone else has forgotten about this over Spring Break.

If nobody shows up then they cannot complain about things that might happen....

Well Tannelorn has work, so he says, and has started that new thread, but is having trouble finding time to be on here.

Then I suggest we start making changes.

The Cluster War Thread has stalled so I should just continue but I need their responses to continue unless I just go apeshit and slaughter everyone...

No what we need is fresh blood in this rp. The territories in the middle is still up for grabs and people just need to take them. Since the middle is more clustered than usual the territories will be smaller and can fit I think about 10+ nations.

Well, if I can get the others to participate, then I will set things into motion where I will start expanding into these territories unless someone stops me. I have to think of IC reasons first to justify that other than to get it moving.

Well then I will expand my borders too with a pretext of course. Say like more mineral deposits of Siberium are found. If this expanding of territories persists then I will alter the map.

I also have plans which will be put into motion at the Council Meeting

I also have plans which will be put into motion at the Council Meeting

When is that anyways?

Hmm; do I still count?

Yes you all do, sorry for the long break work took alot of my time.
Anyways cluster is up and running and yes wraith you too >.< sorry lots of names i had to go through.

I am attempting to create a map of the Cluster. I put together this three layer map to represent the Cluster in three dimensions. All I need to do now is to get the map labeled with who is occupying what territories. I will try to use WaherHelpers' origional map but if you want anything changed, please post it here in this Thread. It would be best to keep this out of the IC Threads so as not to clutter them.

Waterhelpers' origional map is here (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10577362&postcount=56), and Communistic Govts' map is here (http://img129.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cluster4ez.jpg).


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/beldragos/clusterupper.jpg
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/beldragos/clustercenter.jpg
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I always imagined my position in the cluster as Territory #13


UPPER
1 - Communistic Govts
2
3
4
5 - WaterHaven (Unclaimed)
CENTRAL
6 - Chronosia
7
8 - Tigerlan
9
10
11
12 - Unclaimed
13 - Balrogga (and Council Chambers/Police HQ)
14 - Unclaimed
15 - Unclaimed
LOWER
16
17
18 - Tannelorn
19
20 - Gate Builders

Please note: The Warp Storm lies between Territories #6 and #11. #16 is below it and #4 and/or #5 could border it above. SeaQuest would have to be one of these. Panab and Tigerlan have been placed next to each other in the RPs. MM is opposite the Cluster from Seaquest. I cannot think of any more restrictions at the moment

I am keeping the previously unclaimed spaces as unclaimed to preserve the integrity of the origional map. I will also place Haterhelpers' position under the same claim.

I am still waiting to hear from the following nations. If you do not wish to keep your territory, please let me know and I will release your spot to another nation.

Mini Meihm
Pananb
The Phoenix Militia
Hobbeebia
SeaQuest
Utopia
Kiith Somtaaw
Russio-Soviets

Hmmm; i want 6; to be close to the toasty goodness

Mind If I take 8?

I will place your chice. First come first serve.

Number one looks like my territory on my map so that

How about my map being the top view of you map as a whole

A portion of the Cluster has been invaded by one intent on conquering my claimed space in it. I thought I should let you know about it. The Cluster Police in particular should be aware of this violation.

Link: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=481473

Place 18 on the lower map is more then good for me balrogga.

Spot 20, please.

Ok I have reason to believe that TFU is Mini Miehm. Look at his signature and you will suspect this too. Anyways his starfighters are not the original as they look like the Jet fighters of modern time. Furthermore it is impossible to cloak a fighter behind the fabric of spacetime as you would need to make the entire fighter out of a gravitonic material or surround it with gravitons. I will propose something to Sea Quest during the council meeting or if you like SQ an envoy to discuss the matter at hand.

Ok I have reason to believe that TFU is Mini Miehm. Look at his signature and you will suspect this too. Anyways his starfighters are not the original as they look like the Jet fighters of modern time. Furthermore it is impossible to cloak a fighter behind the fabric of spacetime as you would need to make the entire fighter out of a gravitonic material or surround it with gravitons. I will propose something to Sea Quest during the council meeting or if you like SQ an envoy to discuss the matter at hand.

I thought that the Cluster Meet is supposed to take place prior to the events in TFU's thread.

Ehh, well, TFU's actions are still a violation of the Cluster's borders with the intent of conquering some of it that belongs to a nation that already had laid claim. That, according to the Cluster 'By-Laws' is usually responded to with the arrival of forces from the nations listed as the Cluster Police.

Ok I have reason to believe that TFU is Mini Miehm. Look at his signature and you will suspect this too. Anyways his starfighters are not the original as they look like the Jet fighters of modern time. Furthermore it is impossible to cloak a fighter behind the fabric of spacetime as you would need to make the entire fighter out of a gravitonic material or surround it with gravitons. I will propose something to Sea Quest during the council meeting or if you like SQ an envoy to discuss the matter at hand.

Or you could have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. TFU has been around alot longer than I have.

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I'll have spot #7 as it looks most like my general location.

Please note: The Warp Storm lies between Territories #6 and #11. #16 is below it and #4 and/or #5 could border it above. SeaQuest would have to be one of these. Panab and Tigerlan have been placed next to each other in the RPs. MM is opposite the Cluster from Seaquest. I cannot think of any more restrictions at the moment


SeaQuest, I believe your choices are limited because you need to be next to the Warpstorm MM used against you. It did destroy/pollute a planet if I remember correctly.

The other requests will be edited in after this post...

Maybe I should take SQs old colony :D

@Bal: According to CG's map (http://img129.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cluster4ez.jpg) that Warp Storm is unlisted (though another is). It also indicates I'm between CG's space and Panab's space.

Now, with your restrictions, that would mean I was in #4 as CG has #1. It would also mean that Pananb had #3 and MM had #2. That is, if CG, myself, Panab, and MM were all on the same level.

It would also mean that the other Warp Storm was located in the area between Hobbeebia and Russo-Soviet's areas.

Also, aren't there at least two Warp Storms in the Cluster?

@Chrono: We could negotiate a treaty in an IC attempt to get better relations between our two nations and you would get what's left of Botany as part of it. How does that sound?

The warp storm on my map is the same as the warpstorm on WH's map well the same place. The WS on my map is that dark blue circle around what appears to be an explosion between Hobbeebia and Tigerlan.

And I placed it in the same position, around 10:00 (upper left in the Cantral Layer).

The problem we are having is I think there are mistakes in all the maps because of misunderstanding. That is why I am asking for requests of positions with the previous main events dictating relative locations.

MM is opposite of SQ because of initial fighting

SQ was hit by the Warp and "lost" a planet

Tigerlan had rebels crossed from Tigerlan into Pananab.

I think WH placed the Warp Storm in the wrong nation, or rather labled the warp storm affected territory with the wrong name.

It sucks being human, so we can just fix things and be done with it.

Now, please pick one of the Warp affected territories (4. 5. 6. 11. or 16) or let WH pick for you. He is the Founder, after all and gave it to you in the beginning.

Now, can we get the council meeting in order?

In the Cluster Council meeting my character attacked SQ's rep. Please read the thread if you want to know more.

SQ basicly ignored multiple psionic blasts by D'Rant because he apparently didn't understand why I was doing it. Personally understanding should not be a reason to ignore an action like that. I did post what was going to happen in the months to come long ago.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10593506&postcount=61

If my attack and actions seem chaotic, uncharacteristic, and in character with what I outlined in that post long ago, then I think I am correctly role playing.

Now, please properly role play the effects of that many Psionic Blasts. one or two would render a normal human into a stunned and possibly drooling catonic. Think of what it would be like to have Mike Tyson punch you in the face that many times. I just did it to your brain.

In the Cluster Council meeting my character attacked SQ's rep. Please read the thread if you want to know more.

SQ basicly ignored multiple psionic blasts by D'Rant because he apparently didn't understand why I was doing it. Personally understanding should not be a reason to ignore an action like that. I did post what was going to happen in the months to come long ago.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10593506&postcount=61

If my attack and actions seem chaotic, uncharacteristic, and in character with what I outlined in that post long ago, then I think I am correctly role playing.

Now, please properly role play the effects of that many Psionic Blasts. one or two would render a normal human into a stunned and possibly drooling catonic. Think of what it would be like to have Mike Tyson punch you in the face that many times. I just did it to your brain.

No, I didn't ignore them. Just said they would disable or kill my character as I still had to get you the info. Due to the Ambassador being my only character in the thread, you see my dilema.

And a Furling is not a normal human. They're not even human at all.

Now, I'm not saying your attacks did nothing, only that my Ambassador survived to finish telling the truth.

The fact that you just posted the word "Blast" and no reference to how strong each was also factors into this.

Well, if Bal does kill him we won't object. We'll also stick relatively close to our current argument. Since martial law is declared; how legal and final are any of the decisions we make?

You know what? You are absolutely right, as always. I did not state exactly what would happen if someone took 17 Psi blasts, assuming you would have an idea what they would do. I guess my mistake was assuming you would go along with the story and use your creative imaging instead of nit-picking the post to pieces to make yourself end up on top. I saw you do that with the issue over the moon when TFU stated “that moon” indicating a specific target. You did it with the ship movements, and the numerous other examples that the others have pointed out.

I also should have known your version of Furling was almost completely immune to psi. The example I gave to you of Mr. Tyson should have given you an idea but I guess I should have decided to convert to Furlong damage before posting. 17 punches to the face by the Heavy Weight Champ is equal to a small trickle of blood in the corner of your mouth.

I suppose you now will claim you didn’t have that comparison. Again you would be absolutely right. I should refrain what you the player should know about what was going on.

You were struck by someone high enough up in my nation to be given the position over the Cluster. HE was using his mental powers, which were no secret if you had read my posted history on the website linked in my sig since Dec 2004. The obvious Ta’Nar official being a declared (OOC) mentat of great power and age would have been able to belt just about anyone in that room with that attack. I am not It would be the mental equivalent to getting punched. A stun attack or literally getting beaten senseless. A search of GOOGLE would have probably yielded that info. Did you bother to look? I guess we all know that answer.

Now if you happen to look at the Psionics page of my website you would see a list of powers I could have used instead. It ranged from Telekinesis (choking, crushing heart, throwing you around the room until you were a bloody pulp), pyrokinesis, electrokinesis, psychic-vampirism, mindwipe, or just a simple Possession of your body and using it to call off your attack. Instead I only did a bitch-slapping and threatened you. That was another uncharacteristic thing to do if I was truly pissed at you. I would have ripped you to pieces and left what remained burning and cooking in their own juices on the floor and walls. The powers I listed above could easily do it and I don’t thing anyone in that room would have stopped me even if they could or wanted to.

So after reading this you should realize I attempted to give you the easiest way out but since you decided to reject the humble pie, I will have your IC actions actually piss him off and I will take appropriate actions. He will command the Imperial forces to eliminate you however they can. This will be because your direct IC actions and editing your posts will not change anything because you already had your chance.

You know what? You are absolutely right, as always. I did not state exactly what would happen if someone took 17 Psi blasts, assuming you would have an idea what they would do. I guess my mistake was assuming you would go along with the story and use your creative imaging instead of nit-picking the post to pieces to make yourself end up on top.

Honestly, that's not true. I had to get the truth known, even before your unprovoked attack on my character.

Now, as I see it, there can still be a peaceful diplomatic resolution to all this. The moon can be moved to a secure location outside the Cluster (I've already gotten the go ahead saying that it would be allowed). Only difficulty is actually moving the moon itself physically.

I saw you do that with the issue over the moon when TFU stated “that moon” indicating a specific target. You did it with the ship movements, and the numerous other examples that the others have pointed out.

TFU said he was targeting A moon, not THE Quake Moon.

I don't get why others aren't chastised about semantics but I am.

I also should have known your version of Furling was almost completely immune to psi. The example I gave to you of Mr. Tyson should have given you an idea but I guess I should have decided to convert to Furlong damage before posting. 17 punches to the face by the Heavy Weight Champ is equal to a small trickle of blood in the corner of your mouth.

Incorrect. Just because I didn't describe the internal damage in detail doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I also didn't say it was a a tiny trickle of blood.

Its only because he's a Furling that he had the stamina to stand for as long as he did. For all you know, he could already be dying from internal bleeding.

And I never said he was completely immune. The SQian Emperor would be a different story, as would the entire SQian Imperial family.

As it stands, in my mind, your unprovoked attack was an attempt at trying to get Terinxx to strike back at you. And that little GM about sensing something that he was feeling when he wasn't feeling that at all is also a problem.

I suppose you now will claim you didn’t have that comparison. Again you would be absolutely right. I should refrain what you the player should know about what was going on.

Just because I missed that post about your nation's new IC leanings towards Chaos doesn't mean I'm stupid.

You were struck by someone high enough up in my nation to be given the position over the Cluster. HE was using his mental powers, which were no secret if you had read my posted history on the website linked in my sig since Dec 2004. The obvious Ta’Nar official being a declared (OOC) mentat of great power and age would have been able to belt just about anyone in that room with that attack. I am not It would be the mental equivalent to getting punched. A stun attack or literally getting beaten senseless. A search of GOOGLE would have probably yielded that info. Did you bother to look? I guess we all know that answer.

A Google search for what? I can't exactly do a search if I don't know what I'm supposed to be looking for.

Now if you happen to look at the Psionics page of my website you would see a list of powers I could have used instead. It ranged from Telekinesis (choking, crushing heart, throwing you around the room until you were a bloody pulp), pyrokinesis, electrokinesis, psychic-vampirism, mindwipe, or just a simple Possession of your body and using it to call off your attack. Instead I only did a bitch-slapping and threatened you. That was another uncharacteristic thing to do if I was truly pissed at you. I would have ripped you to pieces and left what remained burning and cooking in their own juices on the floor and walls. The powers I listed above could easily do it and I don’t thing anyone in that room would have stopped me even if they could or wanted to.

Using Terinxx to call of the attack wouldn't have worked. As an Ambassador, he is on a seperate rank tree than the combat parts of my military. As such, he has no military athority over what's happening at Belle Terre. Only the on-side highest ranking SQian officer does.

So after reading this you should realize I attempted to give you the easiest way out but since you decided to reject the humble pie, I will have your IC actions actually piss him off and I will take appropriate actions. He will command the Imperial forces to eliminate you however they can. This will be because your direct IC actions and editing your posts will not change anything because you already had your chance.

Honestly, just because I'm not 100% up-to-date on your stuff, doesn't mean you have to back me into corners you know I'll only have one response to.

And, just an F.Y.I., there is no part on your site about the Ta'nar psychic powers (or wasn't last I looked).

I just found the new section you've got on Psionics (it was a broken link last time I looked at your site). It lists all the abilities, but not how powerful each is. It also difficult to know what a lot of those terms even mean (for example, I have no clue what "Retrogression" is or does).

Honestly, how do you expect me to keep track of everything about your nation when I'm being attacked by MM/TSL, TGB/Ankhmet, TFU, and others IC'ly and/or OOC'ly?

Well, if Bal does kill him we won't object. We'll also stick relatively close to our current argument. Since martial law is declared; how legal and final are any of the decisions we make?

Martial law? Martial law was declared from the start when TFU attacked. I'll only be undeclaring it on Belle Terre when he leaves.

Not talking about Belle Terre, boy. I'm talking about the Cluster.

Martial Law was declaired by Tannelorn when Mini Miehn invaded WH and tried to assert his control over the Cluster through WH. Tannelorn declaired Martial Law and attacked Mini-Meihm after taking WaterHelper in as a protectorate to save him from being dominated.

You remember the Cluster War thingie?

Now you're attempting to picking apart my statement. That is your style and I expected it. Taking anything I say out of context to attempt to disprove it will not change the truth of the whole statement and the path has not deviated because of your attempts.

Not talking about Belle Terre, boy. I'm talking about the Cluster.

Link to post then please.

Martial Law was declaired by Tannelorn when Mini Miehn invaded WH and tried to assert his control over the Cluster through WH. Tannelorn declaired Martial Law and attacked Mini-Meihm after taking WaterHelper in as a protectorate to save him from being dominated.

I wouldn't mind the link to said post.

You remember the Cluster War thingie?

Yes, but I stayed out of it and never had the time to read it.

Now you're attempting to picking apart my statement. That is your style and I expected it. Taking anything I say out of context to attempt to disprove it will not change the truth of the whole statement and the path has not deviated because of your attempts.

I don't pick apart, I respond to seperate parts of posts as its easier to keep track of which answer goes to which part.

And what are you talking about? I've not taken anything out of context.

As the last of the representatives arrives the doors closed and sealed. The Council Meetings were private and none would be allowed to enter or leave except in the case of a dire emergency. The suppression field was activated to prevent any eavesdropping or bugging attempts. All communications were to be channeled through the systems installed for that purpose.

Just re reposting this for Phoenix because he is really too late to join this council meeting.

Someone in the Police force should send a guard to say that his envoy is not allowed in if you want to take the IC way.

This part made me chuckle:

I don't pick apart, I respond to seperate parts of posts as its easier to keep track of which answer goes to which part.

= Picking apart

It was assumed all who wished to send a rep did so before the meeting started. If thet didn't say anything while the proceedings went on, it is also assumed they either did not have an opinion, were too stunned, agreed, ect...

Also, the planet is not targeted by the council, the moon is. The only nation that will probably do anything to the planet would be SQ out od spite.

We are treating this as an eviction because we are all leasing from The Founder after all. I will make this point IC in my next post when I either go on break or when I get home from work.

Phones with internet access are great for reading Threads, but not for composing good IC posts.

i got a idea lol why not make a waterhelper cluster region in NS

darn it i got a small spot (05 i think) oh well all is good... though I thought I would have gotten a larger spot being the one who found(ed if you prefer) the cluster oh well. Anyway ill try to post as soon as i read these 189 posts or something like that... now I wonder what happened to my status as owner in the cluster... (well if im not then I cant blame you I wasn't here)

You are still the owner and Founder of the Cluster. Your territory was held in Protectorate status by Tannelorn until you were ready to reclaim it again (which sounds like you are).

Yup, its all good just choose whichever unclaimed territory you wanted I guess, that should be good Waterhelper, and welcome back. Lets get the cluster rolling again.

Umm, Territory #5 was held for him. It is at the very top of the Cluster, a representation of his position as Founder.

If Waterhelper wishes another territory, he can choose any other one or I will trade with him if he wants mine. All it would be is a simple change of the listing in the two threads.

So... uh... is this thing still open?

So... uh... is this thing still open?

Motion seconded, I want to join, too.

It is still open through application, of course the territory sizes granted are now smaller, mainly because we want a rather lot more people inside the cluster.
So come on in.

So, eh, how does one apply?

*prepares to fill out 100,000 pages of forms*