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Southeastasia
24-02-2006, 08:38
And don't forget my consular being trapped in the Leafanistani capitol.
Leafanistan
24-02-2006, 19:47
That's funny, I always figured that missile losses were RPed by the defender.

Its odd how it works. I've seen conflicting conventions. Sigh, :confused: .

I'll try to post stats and pics for the Kirov, Harpoon and Aegis soon. The army uses a lot of these to defend the homeland. Also expect some backfire for the town razing incident.

Also try to order airstrikes so we can get Velkya to get some work done?
McKagan
25-02-2006, 00:51
Leaf, i've got some problems with your last post. This whole RP we've had the idea that air power is almost useless because of the weather and then you attack me with airpower. Not to mention the fact that your airpower seemed to just appear there, the IMN would have pounded any airbases on the shoreline as soon as getting there. That said, the McKagan fleet (the majority of it) is far from the carrier/shoreline. I've got the battleship and its four destroyers there fighting, but that's it. The Zealous hasn't arrived yet, anyway.

Now, you've got to make up your mind. If you can use your airpower and it be effective, so can I. If your airships have no trouble in the weather, neither will my carrier based fighters.
The Lone Alliance
25-02-2006, 01:06
Oh this will be fun, a Tiberian Spill and contamination+ dead dogs and wolves? Lets see how Kravan deals with a pack of Fiends, AKA Canus Tiberius.
Leafanistan
25-02-2006, 01:35
Leaf, i've got some problems with your last post. This whole RP we've had the idea that air power is almost useless because of the weather and then you attack me with airpower. Not to mention the fact that your airpower seemed to just appear there, the IMN would have pounded any airbases on the shoreline as soon as getting there. That said, the McKagan fleet (the majority of it) is far from the carrier/shoreline. I've got the battleship and its four destroyers there fighting, but that's it. The Zealous hasn't arrived yet, anyway.

Now, you've got to make up your mind. If you can use your airpower and it be effective, so can I. If your airships have no trouble in the weather, neither will my carrier based fighters.

This is ambiguity on my part. I apologize but the storm is clearing and it'll start from West to East.

When the storm clears the 3rd Army will strike on Concord, the pilots will start their training, Kraven will be visible to the air, and pretty much this removes that huge fog of war.

The Airships are armoured with a sort of kevlar and titanium tungsten foil. They can be assembled and filled with hydrogen at any moment. Yes they are filled with hydrogen, usually its with helium but during wartime they will accept hydrogen. The Kirov and Harpoon are moved by train to be assembled within a day and quickly disassembled and moved in a few hours. The Aegis is more of a balloon than an airship.

If you still want it deleted I'll oblige.

As for the tiberium thing, I just want havoc. You should see the Solanum releases soon. I really want chaos.
Leafanistan
25-02-2006, 01:41
I also felt the Army needed a chance to at least prick you slightly. Land warfare in an arctic desert isn't much if your soldiers are fully suited up especially after a massive naval bombardment. The Army doesn't stand a chance really.

Balance is anotehr reason.
McKagan
25-02-2006, 01:41
If you still want it deleted I'll oblige.


No, it's semi-ok. The majority of the McKagan fleet is still a nice distance from the whole thing, far enough that you won't be able to strike at them at the same time as the other fleet that's attacking your land based stuff. You can't really expect the carrier to have much effect now. Would a fleet park on top of a carrier that's about to meltdown? Regardless, if you want to keep your blimp attack thing IC, you'll have to accept me swarming them with fighters from my carrier.
Leafanistan
25-02-2006, 01:43
No, it's semi-ok. The majority of the McKagan fleet is still a nice distance from the whole thing, far enough that you won't be able to strike at them at the same time as the other fleet that's attacking your land based stuff. You can't really expect the carrier to have much effect now. Would a fleet park on top of a carrier that's about to meltdown? Regardless, if you want to keep your blimp attack thing IC, you'll have to accept me swarming them with fighters from my carrier.

I'm prepared for that. Though the blimps do carry an AA armament, the Aegis is a nasty bugger. I'll get stats and at least an MSpaint soon.

And the heat fog is being used as camoflague for the blimps. "Thermal readings in a radioactive heat fog!? Probably nothing...'
McKagan
25-02-2006, 02:04
I'm prepared for that. Though the blimps do carry an AA armament, the Aegis is a nasty bugger. I'll get stats and at least an MSpaint soon.

And the heat fog is being used as camoflague for the blimps. "Thermal readings in a radioactive heat fog!? Probably nothing...'

My fighters are stealthy fuckers as well, and it wouldn't take many missiles to bring a blimp down regardless... then again, i'll probably send a Corvette into the fog to check it out. NBC protection rocks. :p

IC post coming.
Leafanistan
25-02-2006, 03:22
I object slighty to the lack of disaster, those Red Tidean missiles were expensive!

I grudgingly accept, but you are already delayed by 2 days to get to Concord.

Also where did Red Tide go? My troops need help?

Good night for now.
Southeastasia
25-02-2006, 03:25
Leaf, how would you suggest my helicopters get in and get out alive along with my consular? Because he is MY character, and I get to decide what happens to him....I don't want to lose him, as he has great plot potential and for this rp and for future rps....and I want to test Halberdgardia's new UH-75"Knighthawks" and Isselmere's DAS-12 "Swifts"!
Leafanistan
25-02-2006, 03:29
Leaf, how would you suggest my helicopters get in and get out alive along with my consular? Because he is MY character, and I get to decide what happens to him....I don't want to lose him, as he has great plot potential and for this rp and for future rps....and I want to test Halberdgardia's new UH-75"Knighthawks" and Isselmere's DAS-12 "Swifts"!

When the storm clears and the attack starts move in rapidly to the Parliament building and land in the nearby Parliament Plaza. Pick up your consular and hope to God that Army doesn't shoot you down right htere and then. Though you have 2 divisions of Confederate Guard, and 7 divisions of Poeple's Guard in the way.
Southeastasia
25-02-2006, 03:33
Do you plan on shooting down as many of my choppers as possible? And how do you think they can make it back to their homeland....you said that the CSRP in a post earlier on in this thread had aircraft all over the place watching like eagles....
Leafanistan
25-02-2006, 03:38
Do you plan on shooting down as many of my choppers as possible? And how do you think they can make it back to their homeland....you said that the CSRP in a post earlier on in this thread had aircraft all over the place watching like eagles....

The CSRP doens't have an air force. They have anti-aircraft watching their divisions like eagles but hte storm keeps the Loyalist Air Force from takingto the skies. However, the storm is clearing. Just come from over the poles or move extreme long range. Concord is nearly 100 km from the nearest Heliport and that is controlled by the enemy. Though there is anotehr one 200 km just outside Zedison. Try to disembark at Port Stevens then move up to Zedison and mount an operation from there.
Southeastasia
25-02-2006, 03:51
Isn't Port Stevens and Zedison under McKagan attack? Which areas do the Loyalists control again?
Leafanistan
25-02-2006, 03:52
Isn't Port Stevens and Zedison under McKagan attack? Which areas do the Loyalists control again?

You misread, Zedison is under 'Loyalist' (read as: Mafia) control. Port Stevens is under Loyalist Control. McKagan is attacking a southern port to secure the flanks.

Good night.
Southeastasia
25-02-2006, 04:08
Roger that. Say Leafy, in comparison to other armed forces like say Sarzonia's, do you think the Confederate Army could stand a chance against my superior Z-34 Bonhams and Incubus MBTs? Because I highly doubt it now that I've NSified a lot of my equipment....
Leafanistan
25-02-2006, 04:11
Roger that. Say Leafy, in comparison to other armed forces like say Sarzonia's, do you think the Confederate Army could stand a chance against my superior Z-34 Bonhams and Incubus MBTs? Because I highly doubt it now that I've NSified a lot of my equipment....

You know those huge Soviet Bloc MBTs? I've bought nearly 250,000, 200,000 went to the COnfederate Guard, 50,000 went to the army. The AVT-97 and the newest AVT-102 are built on those. Though the AVT-80G is much more often fielded when there isn't much of an armour threat. You see, while those tanks are awesome. THeir upkeep is insane. So the 80 suffices for small work. While the others are for extreme situations.
McKagan
25-02-2006, 04:13
Well Leaf, I mean, if you'd gone to attack the MAIN fleet you'd have had to be so far from the carrier that it's radioactive stuff wouldn't be as effective, and you'd have been seen. Besides, with all my ASW frigates that wouldn't be much of a fight. We're ok though. I don't care when I get to Concord because the weather is coming to my side.... and my Intercontinental Tactical Bombers!
Southeastasia
25-02-2006, 04:14
The problem with SB, and what everyone forgets is are two things - he adds on all the extra systems on his products simply for the marketing, and he is a fluid designer - you can lop off a lot of the unneccessary junk if you simply specify it in the post.
McKagan
25-02-2006, 04:15
Roger that. Say Leafy, in comparison to other armed forces like say Sarzonia's, do you think the Confederate Army could stand a chance against my superior Z-34 Bonhams and Incubus MBTs? Because I highly doubt it now that I've NSified a lot of my equipment....

You've also got both a McKagan Courgar Division, an Urban Tank Regiment, and a Light Tank Division that will be coming in from the flanks to help you.

BTW, if you want to land someone, contact McKagan. We'd let you, probably.
Leafanistan
25-02-2006, 04:23
The problem is that the Loyalists won't allow carpet bombings. And once reports of what McKagan has been upto down south reach command they'll be pissed. This war is gonig to be very PC (politically correct), or else the Loyalists do the job themselves and risk years of warfare and an economy that will take years to reinvogorate.

I really need to tell myself when to quit. GOOD NIGHT!
McKagan
25-02-2006, 05:01
McKagan won't have to carpet bomb. Hence the term "intercontinental tactical bomber." There's not much we could have done in the south, either. McKagan will admit to wrongdoing and it'll be hard to do much more.

Besides, if the High Father pisses me off I'll do what i've wanted to do for a long time and carpet bomb his residency. :p

It'll be a fun war, but I don't want it to become more political than Torontia.

It'll be more like a desert storm type thing only with more of a civil war mixed in. Once McKagan starts playing the field and has air superiority everything will get VERY interesting.
Southeastasia
25-02-2006, 11:49
Had Yallak and Sarzonia actually crossed swords, the Imperial Navy of Yallak versus the Incorporated Sarzonian Navy would have been a VERY interesting match.
McKagan
25-02-2006, 15:19
Had Yallak and Sarzonia actually crossed swords, the Imperial Navy of Yallak versus the Incorporated Sarzonian Navy would have been a VERY interesting match.

I know. I don't know if anyone could actually stand up to Sarzonia besides someone who just has alot of naval assets to THROW at it. Or tactical nuclear warheads... nonetheless.
McKagan
25-02-2006, 23:01
Well the Marines finally have a LZ set up. Look for a speedy push to Concord, now.

Leaf, are there any enemy forces in Roma or the intersection of the Autobahn that leads up to Xi'an Port?
Leafanistan
25-02-2006, 23:04
Well the Marines finally have a LZ set up. Look for a speedy push to Concord, now.

Leaf, are there any enemy forces in Roma or the intersection of the Autobahn that leads up to Xi'an Port?

Expect an extensive coverup once Leafanistani Satellites pick up the radiation released from Xi'an Port. Roma is clear, but in the heavy snow which is still being cleared it'll take at least anotehr day to reach Concord. Right in t he middle of the Army's assault.
Leafanistan
25-02-2006, 23:06
You could have went to Port Stevens, now you are actually behind the Reinforcements, though I should start the bombardment now.
McKagan
25-02-2006, 23:24
Well after you RP the losses from my artillery strike against the people who retreated from that base (it shouldn't be much of a fight) i'm switching over to the Concord thread with my RP'ing.

Remember, once the clouds move away IMAF can bomb the fuck out of the 3rd Army. The Marines won't have much to do at all.
Leafanistan
25-02-2006, 23:33
Well after you RP the losses from my artillery strike against the people who retreated from that base (it shouldn't be much of a fight) i'm switching over to the Concord thread with my RP'ing.

Remember, once the clouds move away IMAF can bomb the fuck out of the 3rd Army. The Marines won't have much to do at all.

The 3rd Army is pushing into the City, its too confusing to do bombing without getting up close and personal with the 3rd Army. Else you'll risk bombing Loyalist forces or civilans with them. And if they capture the MDM-4 Battery and other Red Tidean missiles nothign is expected to live in the sky.
McKagan
26-02-2006, 00:49
Oh I'm going to get "up close and personal."

Just in the form of Close-Air-Support UCAV's (and SWARMS of them) before the Marines get there. What'll happen is the 3rd Army will be attacked from the sky AND from the rear, and that won't be pretty for them. I don't care how many of my UCAV's you knock down. It makes Avalt Security International richer, which makes McKagan industry stronger, which helps us make UCAV's faster and cheaper.

KLA-49's are already in the theatre, I'll probably have to bring a transport ship loaded with them out to the carrier though just to keep it in stock.
SkyCapt
26-02-2006, 19:35
Leafy uses airships as well?!

O.o




... I'm not alone!!1
McKagan
26-02-2006, 19:49
I use a Stealth Blimp to transport special forces around.
Leafanistan
26-02-2006, 23:14
I use airships. Mostly in the Naval Role though the Marines and Army use them for amphibious operations and heavy artillery.

Also all of Port Stevens is loyalist. Being a heavy Naval Center defended by the Confederate Guard ensures that.

The storm is clearing up so that is why the Army is attacking, there is still limited cloud cover and flurries.

The Red Tidean Anti-Aircraft Batteries are being seized by the army, especially the southern half of the outmost ring.

Remember you aren't flying over Saharistan V. 10.8 now with Instant Messenger and twice the nukes(TM). You are flying over Leafanistan with some of the best anti-aircraft batteries in the world. There are huge RADAR systems with arrays that are only allowed to operate once every 10 seconds.
McKagan
27-02-2006, 01:13
Leaf, a question on these MASER's. Do like groups of them rely on a single RADAR installation? What I was thinking was that you could have a group of Loyalist commando's sneak south towards the advancing Marines and then they'll link up with some McKagan DART's and head back up to Concord to launch a covert assault on some RADAR installations.

And just a question, but what kind of ground vehicles are the 3rd Army using?
Leafanistan
27-02-2006, 02:17
Leaf, a question on these MASER's. Do like groups of them rely on a single RADAR installation? What I was thinking was that you could have a group of Loyalist commando's sneak south towards the advancing Marines and then they'll link up with some McKagan DART's and head back up to Concord to launch a covert assault on some RADAR installations.

And just a question, but what kind of ground vehicles are the 3rd Army using?

They are dispersed large arrays. They are about .01 square miles of dozens of powerful Radio antennas. Concord is surrounded on one side by high mountains and on the other side by the River Concordia which is currently frozen over. The MASERs all 45 of them are on the mountains and 3 of them are controlled by each array. The arrays fire in staggered times so that there is constant heavy RADAR cover. Around that are the Red Tidean built defenses and Leafanistan defenses. Red Tide provides the heavy missiles and is surrounded by other Leafanistani missile installations and heavy 120mm ETC SmartFLAK. I'm thinking of taking High Father with some commandos and personally leading a raid on the Outer Ring Control center and recapture them from the army.

As for your other questions the 3rd Army doesn't wnat to risk anything anymore. They pulled out the advanced vehicles but not hte Soviet Bloc ones yet. There are the AVT-103s making up the minority of the tanks, about a third. They are supported by the AVT-97 which makes up the bulk of the regular tank corps. The conscripted divisions are using the AVT-80 which is still viable but it is starting to show its age with its 125mm smoothbore non-ETC gun. The AVT-90 was originally built to suceed the 80 but it lacked the safety features that Leafanistan wanted so it was sold for export. There are a limited number of AVT-95 tanks which mount dual 90mm ETC guns and carry an array of missiles. But these are for hte Division commander's personal guard and are meant to intimdate the conscripts. The AVT-103 is the first Leafanistani tank to mount a DREAD gun in the .308 cal as an Anti-air mount firing in 10 round bursts.

They are using the LV-08 Boar Scout Car from the Soviet Bloc. They usually have TOW missiles or the .50 cal gun. The conscripts are driving a combination of Humvees and CJ-14 Scout Cars with the .50 cal mount.

The main heavy IFV is the BMP-3 with a 100mm smoothbore (nonETC) that can fire shells and missiles. It also has a 30mm Autocannon. It has gun ports for hte soldiers to fire their KF11 ARs. (5.8mm Caseless, Armour piercing, 50 round magazine)

The lighter IFV is the BTR-130 mounting a 30mm Autocannon and a 7.62mm AA mount, also with gunports. The conscripted divisions are using the BTR-80 with just a 20mm Autocannon.

Their 5-ton trucks are covered with Kevlar and a few have been modified to act as IFVs with little Kevlar flaps cut out and a reinforced bottom.

As you can see the Conscripts got the short end of the stick. They are using any guns they can get their hands on and providing their own body armour. Most are wearing Flak jackets, a few have purchased or scavenged better body armour. They are using anything from M16s to KF9 BRs. They are wearing green armbands to signify their support for the Reformists.

Forgot to mention Air Forces!

They are using Mi-24 Hinds and Ka-52s in a combination called Crocs 'n Gators. The more manuverable Ka-52s clear a path for the heavy Hinds which drop off their passengers and they hop this way across the city. They are also using foreign-made UH-60s. The conscripts are in some older Hinds and Mi-8 Hips, a few own Cobras and are using that to cover their buddies into battle. This is an odd combination of regulars and conscripts.
McKagan
27-02-2006, 02:54
You play Mercenaries, you should know where i'm going. Leafanistan uses Real World units for transportation; would it be possible for a group of my DART's to order a Soviet Scout Car and meet up with your people?
Southeastasia
27-02-2006, 15:53
Say Leaf, how about my other guards?
Leafanistan
27-02-2006, 23:54
You play Mercenaries, you should know where i'm going. Leafanistan uses Real World units for transportation; would it be possible for a group of my DART's to order a Soviet Scout Car and meet up with your people?

Wait by Zedison and soon a Mafia Mi-8 shoudl be delivering one. Make an order in the thread "To: Merchant of Menace, private code (xxxxxxx)" or something like that. It'll probably cost like $120,000 to order an LV-08 with a .50 cal. Lets just set it at that. And within an hour a Mi-8 will show up with one with snow chains so you can navigate the snow.

Say Leaf, how about my other guards?

Other guards? Just a kid, you should run into High Father as he is passing through a hallway. The Leafanistani helicopters will fly cover and make sure you make it to Bemet and make it out ok.

Expect a deal with the devil soon.
Leafanistan
28-02-2006, 00:04
New map.

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/9513/nleafanistan4lh.jpg

McKagan is attacking Soyuzlova and moving up to Roma now. There is a surprise at Berkut.
The Kraven Corporation
28-02-2006, 00:15
are there any towns or villages further inland, south of Port Xi'an
Leafanistan
28-02-2006, 00:17
are there any towns or villages further inland, south of Port Xi'an

These just list the large cities. However, this far north there are very few. Probably a few things. But for you how about a sleepy village of only 55 called Village Duane about 2 kilometres south of Xi'an but at a lower altitude so they haven't seen anything and are snowed in.
The Kraven Corporation
28-02-2006, 00:19
These just list the large cities. However, this far north there are very few. Probably a few things. But for you how about a sleepy village of only 55 called Village Duane about 2 kilometres south of Xi'an but at a lower altitude so they haven't seen anything and are snowed in.

Hmmm, any further down, Im Tac Nukeing Xi'an, so I want to be well away from any blast or fall out
Leafanistan
28-02-2006, 00:21
Hmmm, any further down, Im Tac Nukeing Xi'an, so I want to be well away from any blast or fall out

I wanted to Tac Nuke it. :(

If you want Village Duane is now 16 kilometres down south and about 300 metres beneath Xi'an Port.
The Kraven Corporation
28-02-2006, 00:23
I wanted to Tac Nuke it. :(

If you want Village Duane is now 16 kilometres down south and about 300 metres beneath Xi'an Port.

lol, Sorry to steal your thunder, Kraven isn't messing around with weird shit :D

and that will do for me, if you want to add it to the map, so we know how far Kraven is advancing...
Leafanistan
28-02-2006, 00:27
lol, Sorry to steal your thunder, Kraven isn't messing around with weird shit :D

and that will do for me, if you want to add it to the map, so we know how far Kraven is advancing...

Alright then, tac nuke it. though I have no idea where you got one. Anywho you'll probably damage the McKagan fleet because they are close enough to use binoculars. I'll add it to the map with a red dot.

Also McKagan, take a little loss, your massive fleet has flexed its muscle and you've recieved nothing but pinpricks.
The Kraven Corporation
28-02-2006, 00:29
the Whyatican Slave State is a Direct Kraven State, ruled by a Kraven Agent in disguise, the Tac Bomber has come from there, I'm still in radio communication with Whyatica, although the Signal and transmission is heavily coded
Leafanistan
28-02-2006, 00:31
the Whyatican Slave State is a Direct Kraven State, ruled by a Kraven Agent in disguise, the Tac Bomber has come from there, I'm still in radio communication with Whyatica, although the Signal and transmission is heavily coded

We'll be able to track the bomber. I prefer if you used a long range nuclear cruise missile and it blew up there, so we won't have a good chance to find out what just happened.

Or you could always go with the "I've always had a Tac nuke lying around and now I'm going to detonate it."

I just don't want to ruin your revival too badly when suddenly the SWC descends upon Whyatica.
The Kraven Corporation
28-02-2006, 00:34
We'll be able to track the bomber. I prefer if you used a long range nuclear cruise missile and it blew up there, so we won't have a good chance to find out what just happened.

Or you could always go with the "I've always had a Tac nuke lying around and now I'm going to detonate it."

I just don't want to ruin your revival too badly when suddenly the SWC descends upon Whyatica.


That is a Point, and well met, thanks, I'll edit it and it'll make it all the more sinister... (its better like this anyway, because the ICBM will come from Numonica instead, and I don't care if it falls to the SWC, it isn't connected to Kraven and not many people knew it was under Kraven Control... while Numonica is Free, its missile silos are still under Kraven Control)
Leafanistan
28-02-2006, 00:43
That is a Point, and well met, thanks, I'll edit it and it'll make it all the more sinister... (its better like this anyway, because the ICBM will come from Numonica instead, and I don't care if it falls to the SWC, it isn't connected to Kraven and not many people knew it was under Kraven Control... while Numonica is Free, its missile silos are still under Kraven Control)

Makes sense, during this wartime the MASER batteries in nearby Concord are too busy defending themselves from Army helicopters to do anything.

What kind of backlash are you expecting? Because once it gets back to Numonica there is going to be retaliation with conventional nuclear missiles targetting a large military base from satellite and Biological weapons (meant for anti-plant work) falling into major fields. Then there will be an ultimatium issued that there will be a lot worse.
The Kraven Corporation
28-02-2006, 00:49
Well, Numonica is split into 3 parts, The Axis Nova Section, The Mini Miehm Section and the Kraven Section, now Kraven completely stripped mined our zone, and I mean completely, Cities were Razed to make way for Harvesters, the populace were forced into mines, and every bit of wood or plant matter was stripped from our section, the Kraven section is a desolate, barren landscape, winds are fierce and now that Kraven is no longer in control of the Section the Numonican Kraven Sector peoples are starving and Homeless...

if anything retaliating against them would be doing them all a favour, or the SWC can move in and do a humanitarian relife operation and look like the all round good guys
McKagan
28-02-2006, 00:59
Also McKagan, take a little loss, your massive fleet has flexed its muscle and you've recieved nothing but pinpricks.

I was afraid someone would start this, but I'm within my rights to defend my actions.

So far no one has offered a decent attack against the main McKagan fleet. No one is going to tell me that McKagan would park a massive fleet on top of a sunken aircraft carrier that's leaking radiation. No one can tell me a nation would park that NEAR to it. That in itself, the only vessels sent near to the coast were the 4 Destroyers and the battleship. Three of those destroyers were destroyed by the airship attack. However, your airships would have had to cross a massive stretch of the ocean away from the radioactive cloud to strike at the main fleet, and thus would have been engaged far from making it within range of the fleet.

On the note of a tactical nuclear strike on Xi-an Port damaging "the McKagan fleet," it's hard to tell what you mean, but i'm assuming you're talking of the one I launched the commando's from to investigate. That's only a few Frigates and an amphib. All of which are NBC protected. They can't get that close because of the ice that YOU self imposed, and may not even be around long at all if MISA's Kraven Task Force decides to just put the city under heavy survailance and watch.

I don't invest trillions of dollars in this stuff, fight small skirmishes to build up a highly trained and professional force; just to have it blown to fuck by old Soviet things. I'm considering having the Marines stop just outside Roma and launch a few separate offensives towards Concord. I'll release plans a bit later, but lets not have them advance TOO far towards Concord while we're doing all this Special Forces stuff. I can get Marines into Concord from the air, there's no need to push armor up just yet.
Leafanistan
28-02-2006, 01:25
I was afraid someone would start this, but I'm within my rights to defend my actions.

So far no one has offered a decent attack against the main McKagan fleet. No one is going to tell me that McKagan would park a massive fleet on top of a sunken aircraft carrier that's leaking radiation. No one can tell me a nation would park that NEAR to it. That in itself, the only vessels sent near to the coast were the 4 Destroyers and the battleship. Three of those destroyers were destroyed by the airship attack. However, your airships would have had to cross a massive stretch of the ocean away from the radioactive cloud to strike at the main fleet, and thus would have been engaged far from making it within range of the fleet.

On the note of a tactical nuclear strike on Xi-an Port damaging "the McKagan fleet," it's hard to tell what you mean, but i'm assuming you're talking of the one I launched the commando's from to investigate. That's only a few Frigates and an amphib. All of which are NBC protected. They can't get that close because of the ice that YOU self imposed, and may not even be around long at all if MISA's Kraven Task Force decides to just put the city under heavy survailance and watch.

I don't invest trillions of dollars in this stuff, fight small skirmishes to build up a highly trained and professional force; just to have it blown to fuck by old Soviet things. I'm considering having the Marines stop just outside Roma and launch a few separate offensives towards Concord. I'll release plans a bit later, but lets not have them advance TOO far towards Concord while we're doing all this Special Forces stuff. I can get Marines into Concord from the air, there's no need to push armor up just yet.

Well you do haev an icebreaker and small ships so the ice isn't that big of an issue. And I doubt your commandoes would walk there. How about another pinprick?
McKagan
28-02-2006, 02:03
Well you do haev an icebreaker and small ships so the ice isn't that big of an issue. And I doubt your commandoes would walk there. How about another pinprick?

Read the thread. I never used an icebreaker or "small ships." I just had the Frigates and Amphibious assualt ship go as close to the city as they could and then launch an LTAC with the commandoes; something like an LCAC, which went over the ice and towards the city.
Leafanistan
28-02-2006, 04:17
Read the thread. I never used an icebreaker or "small ships." I just had the Frigates and Amphibious assualt ship go as close to the city as they could and then launch an LTAC with the commandoes; something like an LCAC, which went over the ice and towards the city.

A frigate and Amphibious assualt ship are rather small ships. While an AAS is just a small aircraft carrier that launches ships. I read ice breaking somewhere.... :(
McKagan
28-02-2006, 04:23
I think you've misunderstood me. I didn't say the Frigates and AAS were breaking the ice - merely that they went as close to the port as they could without havng to go through ice before letting their LTAC out.
Leafanistan
28-02-2006, 04:38
Yeah, Tiberium is dangerous.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiberium#Crystal
Southeastasia
28-02-2006, 08:59
Other guards? Just a kid, you should run into High Father as he is passing through a hallway. The Leafanistani helicopters will fly cover and make sure you make it to Bemet and make it out ok.

Expect a deal with the devil soon.
By other guards, I meant the ones guarding the now destroyed consulate but left....
Allanea
28-02-2006, 11:06
Is it possible to join in some way?
Leafanistan
01-03-2006, 01:56
Is it possible to join in some way?

It is late but how about joining the Reformists and moving in a bit of naval power and air power. Nothing too large yet. This is only the Northern Campaign. Using fluid time we'll do the Southern Campaign, the Mountain Range Campaign, the territory Campaign and the various other campaigns that will erupt from this conflict and specifically Kraven's involvement.

By other guards, I meant the ones guarding the now destroyed consulate but left..

They'll go back to the line, the fighting is fierce and the Army is pushing toward the center of the city and while we outnumber them, we are severaly outgunned. So once McKagan, Southeast Asia and my reinforcements arrive via Helicopter we'll do a commando raid on the captured MDM-4 and MASER batteries to get Air Force cover and ensure a quick victory.

..................

Now as for Kraven....jeez. Well Tiberium is now more active than ever but thankfully its slower but now the crystals explode and there are visceriods.

Kraven, don't kill the villagers, use them for sick experiments involving Tiberium Cyborgs. Expose a few of them to Tiberium 1 in 4 doesn't transform into a visceroid and becomes a mutant and is able to heal when over Tiberium deposits. Augment them with Tiberium reactors (using hte heat emitted by Tiberium crystals to power a battery) and fit them with chainguns and such. Then you'll have an amazing cyborg army!

...........................

A bit of background, Visceriods are when Tiberium reaches saturation point and it collapses internal cell membranes while calcifying the outer skin. Animals/people changing in this point develop a high fever, begin to emit radiation, become comatose, and their skin develops a white ashy layer.

After they transform they are immature and wander around sucking on Tiberium flora. When two of them meet they fuse and become a mature Visceriod. In the immature stage they are peaceful and docile and will only attack when touched by hitting with their hard as stone pseudopodia.

When mature they are anti-social and hate any non-Tiberium based organism and will shoot out a corrosive version of Tiberium gas or if there is muck around a powerful acid derived from Tiberium muck.

Canis Tiberius have extremely sharp teeth and a back covered with Tiberium Ripirius. They can shoot these out at will. They attack anything they percieve as a threat to the crystals. They will react to percieved acts of kindness and will not harm you if you back off. It also appears that Tiberium Fiends can communicate via altering their magnetic field and an electrified fence or just any powerful magnetic field frightens them and holds them at bay. Tiberium Fiends also spread Tiberium Spore Trees.

Soon Tiberium Floaters will emerge. They produce bodily hydrogen and propell themselves with Tiberium gas sprays. They also have a powerful electric charge which they can discharge at any moment, paralyzing armoured units and killing people instantly.
Southeastasia
02-03-2006, 13:16
Leaf, when in Italics, that means that my character is having a private thought, not saying it out loud.
The Kraven Corporation
02-03-2006, 18:13
It is late but how about joining the Reformists and moving in a bit of naval power and air power. Nothing too large yet. This is only the Northern Campaign. Using fluid time we'll do the Southern Campaign, the Mountain Range Campaign, the territory Campaign and the various other campaigns that will erupt from this conflict and specifically Kraven's involvement.



They'll go back to the line, the fighting is fierce and the Army is pushing toward the center of the city and while we outnumber them, we are severaly outgunned. So once McKagan, Southeast Asia and my reinforcements arrive via Helicopter we'll do a commando raid on the captured MDM-4 and MASER batteries to get Air Force cover and ensure a quick victory.

..................

Now as for Kraven....jeez. Well Tiberium is now more active than ever but thankfully its slower but now the crystals explode and there are visceriods.

Kraven, don't kill the villagers, use them for sick experiments involving Tiberium Cyborgs. Expose a few of them to Tiberium 1 in 4 doesn't transform into a visceroid and becomes a mutant and is able to heal when over Tiberium deposits. Augment them with Tiberium reactors (using hte heat emitted by Tiberium crystals to power a battery) and fit them with chainguns and such. Then you'll have an amazing cyborg army!

...........................

A bit of background, Visceriods are when Tiberium reaches saturation point and it collapses internal cell membranes while calcifying the outer skin. Animals/people changing in this point develop a high fever, begin to emit radiation, become comatose, and their skin develops a white ashy layer.

After they transform they are immature and wander around sucking on Tiberium flora. When two of them meet they fuse and become a mature Visceriod. In the immature stage they are peaceful and docile and will only attack when touched by hitting with their hard as stone pseudopodia.

When mature they are anti-social and hate any non-Tiberium based organism and will shoot out a corrosive version of Tiberium gas or if there is muck around a powerful acid derived from Tiberium muck.

Canis Tiberius have extremely sharp teeth and a back covered with Tiberium Ripirius. They can shoot these out at will. They attack anything they percieve as a threat to the crystals. They will react to percieved acts of kindness and will not harm you if you back off. It also appears that Tiberium Fiends can communicate via altering their magnetic field and an electrified fence or just any powerful magnetic field frightens them and holds them at bay. Tiberium Fiends also spread Tiberium Spore Trees.

Soon Tiberium Floaters will emerge. They produce bodily hydrogen and propell themselves with Tiberium gas sprays. They also have a powerful electric charge which they can discharge at any moment, paralyzing armoured units and killing people instantly.


Hmmmm... Excellent... perhaps that wasn't a peice of advice you should have given me... *Evil Sinister Laugh emits through the forum*
Leafanistan
03-03-2006, 03:07
Leaf, when in Italics, that means that my character is having a private thought, not saying it out loud.

I know, no one read the High Father reference thign did they?
Southeastasia
03-03-2006, 10:39
*slaps own face*
Leafanistan
04-03-2006, 23:35
I'd like to apologize for the superhero stuff. I've just always wanted to see that kind of stuff happen. Its not of any strategic importance anyway. Tactically he'll win a few small engagements but large military movemetns are going to be the msot important.
Leafanistan
05-03-2006, 00:25
And technically the Leafanistani Constitution states that High Father is the Head of State of Leafanistan and states his role and such. He is the de-jure leader but the Parliament usurped his power.
McKagan
07-03-2006, 03:27
Leafanistan, how would you feel about the RP taking a more Special Forces/covert operations/conspiracy theory role? I've got a few ideas for future missions.
Leafanistan
07-03-2006, 04:49
Leafanistan, how would you feel about the RP taking a more Special Forces/covert operations/conspiracy theory role? I've got a few ideas for future missions.

I really want it to take that turn. After High Father wakes up.
Prairie du sac
07-03-2006, 05:04
A man is sitting at a desk a black shadow over his face. A voice starts to speak but there is no indication as to where from.
"We publicly support the loyalists in Leafanistani and We send our regards to High Father"

The screen changes scenes and now shows an anchor woman sitting at a desk. She continues on with the news.
"The small 'conflict' between our almighty leader and a traitor group still rages. several foreign hostages have been taking by the traitors and there is still no word on a rescue mission."
Leafanistan
08-03-2006, 02:13
A man is sitting at a desk a black shadow over his face. A voice starts to speak but there is no indication as to where from.
"We publicly support the loyalists in Leafanistani and We send our regards to High Father"

The screen changes scenes and now shows an anchor woman sitting at a desk. She continues on with the news.
"The small 'conflict' between our almighty leader and a traitor group still rages. several foreign hostages have been taking by the traitors and there is still no word on a rescue mission."

Yet another upstanding fellow who cannot read and tell this is an OOC thread, not an IC thread!
McKagan
08-03-2006, 02:17
I really want it to take that turn. After High Father wakes up.

I'm talking General Combat wise, too. You've said that major military shifts will win, but that seems like a dull RP.

With McKagan telling everyone to stand down we REALLY have room for Special Forces stuff now.
Prairie du sac
08-03-2006, 02:19
I can read and we OOCerly support High Father but are not interested in making any IC responses.
Leafanistan
08-03-2006, 02:20
I'm talking General Combat wise, too. You've said that major military shifts will win, but that seems like a dull RP.

With McKagan telling everyone to stand down we REALLY have room for Special Forces stuff now.

Good point, once we go into long political arguements that NS is famous for then the Spec Ops sabotage against each other is set.
Leafanistan
08-03-2006, 02:21
I can read and we OOCerly support High Father but are not interested in making any IC responses.

Technically this sounds like an IC endorsement. OOC is for us talking like ole buddies. If we take that IC-ly, Reformist Leafanistan won't be very happy.
Leafanistan
08-03-2006, 02:24
In response to Willink. Technically RADAR is just radio, so over the horizon means the earth is curving. Now, if his ship is low enough and stealthed enough so as to not reflect any waves back he can avoid detection.

While technically we can all call Godmode on each other for putting fleets into what was once one of hte most heavily defended waters in the region of IBO suddenly.

Red Tide, where are you? You are supposed to be helping me assualt Concord.

SPELL MY NAME RIGHT.

LEAF-AN-I-STAN. Leaf combined with anistan. It isn't so hard. And it is Leafanistanis.
McKagan
08-03-2006, 02:32
You should have some of the Leafanistani Navy's vessels come in to help the McKagan task force.
Leafanistan
08-03-2006, 02:36
You should have some of the Leafanistani Navy's vessels come in to help the McKagan task force.

You know the multiple campaign idea. We haven't even started to deal with SOuthern Leafanistan, Inner Leafanistan, or the territories. The Navy is operating in the territories and trying to shut down Southern Leafanistani trade routes.

So in keeping with this, very little of the fleet remains. There are surplus Nimitz fleets with outdated ships hanging around. Not much use.
Prairie du sac
08-03-2006, 02:41
By what do you mean the reformists will be unhappy? other than the general sadness of not getting our support.
McKagan
08-03-2006, 02:42
Oh, NOW I get why you've not really used alot of the assets that won the SWC several wars.

See, this is why I want to get away from the whole massive-sweeping combat thing. If we're going to do the same thing in EVERY zone it'll make it damn near impossible to coordinate what assets I'm using where. If it comes down to Special Forces I can really get in detail with my deployments.

I've got so many ideas for things to send CODEX (my frontline combat Special Forces team, who can pose as terrorists and the line) on inside Leafanistan. This includes raids on that "strategic reserve" of gold and other precious metals that the reformists have. That's not only a good idea, but the High Father could tell the DART's so many things that I'd have targets for years to come.
Leafanistan
08-03-2006, 02:42
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-time_pad

McKagan you need to literally brute force the code, trying out trillions upon trillions of possible keys of indeterminate length to decipher a one-time key. I used it so it would be nearly impossible for you to decipher. When commands come from Parliamentary Operatives there is supposed to be no way to trace it back.
Leafanistan
08-03-2006, 02:44
By what do you mean the reformists will be unhappy? other than the general sadness of not getting our support.

By that I mean a full Marine invasion and the conscripting of anyone they can to fight for us. Then leaving you to the Kraven dogs after we abandon your country. They are injured and need food to help them lick their wounds. A crushed country like you being invaded by an infiltrated coutnry like me sounds perfect.
Prairie du sac
08-03-2006, 02:50
Ahh but could your disasembled government gather enough forces to strike me hard enough that the fear of me all my citizens retain would be lost? I also ask if you wish the political mess you would put yourself in after attacking a country giving you support?
Leafanistan
08-03-2006, 02:53
Ahh but could your disasembled government gather enough forces to strike me hard enough that the fear of me all my citizens retain would be lost? I also ask if you wish the political mess you would put yourself in after attacking a country giving you support?

Technically the Marines are perfectly loyal and the Army is fanatic. IT can't be that hard to fly to your part of the world.

Political mess? Have you seen the threads already?
McKagan
08-03-2006, 02:56
Leaf, what was your last post directed at me about? Have I broken some sort of code I wasn't supposed to?
Leafanistan
08-03-2006, 02:58
Leaf, what was your last post directed at me about? Have I broken some sort of code I wasn't supposed to?

The sub code was a one-time key, so breaking that would be near impossible. Expect mroe diplomatic ciphers and extreme importance codes to be one-time pads with armed guards physically carrying hte code.
Prairie du sac
08-03-2006, 03:04
OK let me put it this way: my populous is totaly loyal to me because they grew up in fear total and utter fear. and the political mess i refer to is the fact that few will see it as a justified act on your part to attack a nation that had just given you its support.
Leafanistan
08-03-2006, 03:06
OK let me put it this way: my populous is totaly loyal to me because they grew up in fear total and utter fear. and the political mess i refer to is the fact that few will see it as a justified act on your part to attack a nation that had just given you its support.

You supported the wrong side. That and the Facists in the South aren't exactly stable and control about 35% of the nuclear missiles though abstain from using them. Though they have no qualms about deploying the Plasma Burst Warheads from Red Tide. Just like 10 megaton devices without the annoying mess of radiation. Sunburns are a common side effect, along with incineration.
Prairie du sac
08-03-2006, 03:15
They are that unstable? If so they seem to be a dangerous threat (is there any other kind?) to my nation. If follow up intel shows this statement to be true than we might have to insert a force into your little war.
The Kraven Corporation
08-03-2006, 08:02
Can some people please respond to some of the Psychological Warfare I'm employing, Im rustleing up a Battalion of Capitol Police, and wanted the whole psychological impact to be more effective
The Kraven Corporation
08-03-2006, 08:05
By that I mean a full Marine invasion and the conscripting of anyone they can to fight for us. Then leaving you to the Kraven dogs after we abandon your country. They are injured and need food to help them lick their wounds. A crushed country like you being invaded by an infiltrated coutnry like me sounds perfect.

*Distinct sound of Snarling comes from Kravens Posts... *
McKagan
08-03-2006, 22:19
Can some people please respond to some of the Psychological Warfare I'm employing, Im rustleing up a Battalion of Capitol Police, and wanted the whole psychological impact to be more effective

You know the thing we've talked about with the McKagan Special Forces covertly aiding TKC in an attempt to be able to use them as basically a mercenary army? Do you want to kick that off in some way? If so, how do you suggest?
The Kraven Corporation
08-03-2006, 22:25
You know the thing we've talked about with the McKagan Special Forces covertly aiding TKC in an attempt to be able to use them as basically a mercenary army? Do you want to kick that off in some way? If so, how do you suggest?

Easiest way, would be to pick up the Propaganda being broadcast from the Transmitter, trace it and send out some forces, watch out for the sentry guns, The CP and Reichmarshal near by will be interested in saying hello if you stick to what we spoke about, Flags and what not
McKagan
08-03-2006, 22:33
Yeah, but if McKagan is able to track back that transmission and find Kraven's location; wouldn't everyone else in the theatre be able to?
The Kraven Corporation
08-03-2006, 22:36
Yeah, but if McKagan is able to track back that transmission and find Kraven's location; wouldn't everyone else in the theatre be able to?

That doesn't Really bother me, the Reichmarshal and the CP aren't near by, but they will be monitoring the Transmitter via the Sentry Guns defending it
McKagan
08-03-2006, 22:38
OH, so the transmitter isn't at the same place as the CP are operating from?
The Kraven Corporation
08-03-2006, 22:41
No, its on a big hill somewhere south of Port Xi'an
McKagan
08-03-2006, 23:02
If McKagan Special Forces fired some sort of narrow-beam radio transmission into it, would they be able to communicate with the Capitol Police?
The Kraven Corporation
08-03-2006, 23:05
If McKagan Special Forces fired some sort of narrow-beam radio transmission into it, would they be able to communicate with the Capitol Police?

No, its not a two way, its just a one way Transmitter designed to pump thousands of Kilowats worth of Power out into the atmosphere, over powering all nearby radio communications with the Propaganda
McKagan
08-03-2006, 23:08
So you want me to go there, find one of the sentry's, and have my DART's wave some sort of White Flag in front of it with a sign saying "Must Talk"?
The Kraven Corporation
09-03-2006, 17:43
Yeah, Go for it, It seems most logical
McKagan
09-03-2006, 19:03
Done.

This is the first time my CODEX Forces will be used in this capacity.
McKagan
09-03-2006, 19:11
Wait.

I've not told anyone yet, but i've been working on a possible addition to this storyline. It involves McKagan questioning AMF about a possible joint-commando raid type thing in trying to hunt the Capitol Police HQ down.

I've been working on this for a while, sending TG's and stuff, but didn't think it was going to work so I went ahead with this mode of the RP (AIDING Kraven, not fighting.) So now we've got another thing to do, since AMF has told me he'd do that RP.

The thing is, is anyone here against that? It's just a Special Forces mission, as I understand?

Kraven, if it goes through and we're going to do the AMF mission like that, i'll retcon my last post of the transmitter thing et al.
The Kraven Corporation
09-03-2006, 19:16
Wait.

I've not told anyone yet, but i've been working on a possible addition to this storyline. It involves McKagan questioning AMF about a possible joint-commando raid type thing in trying to hunt the Capitol Police HQ down.

I've been working on this for a while, sending TG's and stuff, but didn't think it was going to work so I went ahead with this mode of the RP (AIDING Kraven, not fighting.) So now we've got another thing to do, since AMF has told me he'd do that RP.

The thing is, is anyone here against that? It's just a Special Forces mission, as I understand?

Kraven, if it goes through and we're going to do the AMF mission like that, i'll retcon my last post of the transmitter thing et al.


Well, Ive just posted, perhaps we don't need to Retcon at all, but rather have the encounter go tits up, I.E. the Reichmarshal decides to Execute the team, or the Gunship just mows down your team, or your team decides the reponse from the sentry guns, tearing apart the sign was good enough excuse to return fire... its up to you, whatever happens I can work with it, I'm highly adaptable
McKagan
09-03-2006, 19:21
Well if we do it, we'll probably need to retcon the last two posts, unfortunately. Because the way i'm looking to bring AMF into this is by McKagan asking them for tips on tactics for fighting the Capitol Police. With that, we'd probably wait to go hunting for the CP until the AMF Special Forces (if that's what we're indeed doing) get in the country.

We'll basically be doing the same thing, I think, but it would make it easier to just go back and do it over. This time we won't be talking and everything, you see.
McKagan
09-03-2006, 19:23
Regardless, a few people need to let their intentions be known before we start doing this. We don't need to delete those posts just yet, as AMF hasn't made an open post here so i'm not just dead sure he's going to do this. At that, Leafanistan may (however unlikely) not want to allow AMF into the RP; even though it would probably make it a bit more even considering just about all the people who were originally going to back the Loyalists are gone now.
The Kraven Corporation
09-03-2006, 19:24
Well if we do it, we'll probably need to retcon the last two posts, unfortunately. Because the way i'm looking to bring AMF into this is by McKagan asking them for tips on tactics for fighting the Capitol Police. With that, we'd probably wait to go hunting for the CP until the AMF Special Forces (if that's what we're indeed doing) get in the country.

We'll basically be doing the same thing, I think, but it would make it easier to just go back and do it over. This time we won't be talking and everything, you see.

Well, Ill just have the Gunship do a fly by and the Door Gunners open fire on your team, they can either all die or some get wounded and escape, but either way it would be reason enough for AMF to get involved.

Or, A unit of Capitol Police can get the suprise on the Team and massacre them, with one survivor, who makes it back to Mckagan lines and tells them how her forces were hit by a unit of Capitol Police and wiped out, or something like that, thus enableing a Joint Commando Force
McKagan
09-03-2006, 19:31
Yeah, that works. We can have the CODEX Team open fire on the sentry guns. Those Heavy Weapons people could kill the sentry guns, and then by killed by the Gunship while the rest of the team escapes back to the Scout Car and hauls ass back to the McKagan Corvette they were offloaded from.
The Kraven Corporation
09-03-2006, 19:32
Yeah, that works. We can have the CODEX Team open fire on the sentry guns. Those Heavy Weapons people could kill the sentry guns, and then by killed by the Gunship while the rest of the team escapes back to the Scout Car and hauls ass back to the McKagan Corvette they were offloaded from.

Cue Rambo scene where he's chased by a low flying Hind!
McKagan
09-03-2006, 19:40
That's exactly what I was thinking of. :p

The only thing is, if your gunship follows the Scout Car (which will have a man with Stinger Missiles on top of it) back all the way to the Corvette(which will be sitting on the ice shelf somewhere,) you can't expect it to survive.
McKagan
09-03-2006, 19:49
Do you want me to just go ahead and RP the gunship coming over and killing the people in the next post or what?
The Kraven Corporation
09-03-2006, 19:52
That's exactly what I was thinking of. :p

The only thing is, if your gunship follows the Scout Car (which will have a man with Stinger Missiles on top of it) back all the way to the Frigate (which will be sitting on the ice shelf somewhere,) you can't expect it to survive.

It will give chase, then pull out before it gets too hot, I'll be sending this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v399/HorusGodEmperor/26.jpg

The New Kraven Gunship, its just classed the same as other VTOLS, but its a helicopter gunship, well armoured, good manoverability, heavy weapon racks, as well as 2 25mm Rotary cannons and a 30mm Chain cannon with 360 degree arc of fire
The Kraven Corporation
09-03-2006, 20:00
Nah, I'll do it, I want the satisfaction of gunning you down with my new baby :D
McKagan
09-03-2006, 20:17
You've basically got a shot at about three of the six people - although I may have one of them escape back to the Scout Car and get away with everyone else depending how much you throw at me.
SkyCapt
09-03-2006, 21:19
*clears throat*

Euhm, sorry about being absent, been kinda busy.

Anyone wanna update me?


I'll give you a cookie.
Southeastasia
10-03-2006, 11:20
Leafy, I await your government's official response...
SkyCapt
11-03-2006, 02:19
*clears throat*

Euhm, sorry about being absent, been kinda busy.

Anyone wanna update me?


I'll give you a cookie.
I noticed the new thread...

I'm seriously lost now...

Edit: Ok, I'm going to drop out. Life happens, and seems to be doing so in force at the moment.
Southeastasia
15-03-2006, 11:06
Absolute chaos, to put it bluntly SkyCapt.
Leafanistan
16-03-2006, 01:17
Jeez, we lost a lot.
McKagan
16-03-2006, 03:20
Ok, I've got some issues here. I'm afraid this Tiberium stuff has just turned a great chance at a Civil War RP into an episode of Star Trek. This isn't about fighting between the reformists and the loyalists anymore; it's about fighting some space thing that has absolutely no weakness that has been made thus far. There has been NO way to counter it and where ever it appears suddenly becomes useless.

Not only that, but the few offenses I HAVE managed to get off haven't done anything. Leaf, you may think i've not taken the losses I should have, but given the protection the McKagan fleet has against land based systems, it's pretty much in your favor. You took down three of my highly advanced destroyers - the only ones killed in their existance.

At that, you've not explained where these trains that base this massive, hidden missile system are coming from. They just appear and disappear before McKagan has a chance to attack them. I'm getting ready to launch a massive fucking mission against the infrastructure in Leafanistan, so moving these trains later on will be a dead giveaway.

Another issue is my last attack. You're acting as if these missiles are some Tomahawks set to precision attack bases. They're not. They're set to airbust in the atmosphere, each causing a MASSIVE EMP field that will destroy almost any RADAR or AA system near it. They're not coming down in the arc that a normal missile would, where they'd be engaged easy.

Finally, this is a HEAVILY one sided war. If you look at the statsheet, it's even. But guess what? Next to no one has aided McKagan militarily. You put out this massive "reformists need help!" ad and managed to get a bunch of people REALLY THINKING that McKagan was supporting the CP. I refuse to RP with someone that hasn't read this entier RP arc and understands what is happening.
Leafanistan
16-03-2006, 03:35
Ok, I've got some issues here. I'm afraid this Tiberium stuff has just turned a great chance at a Civil War RP into an episode of Star Trek. This isn't about fighting between the reformists and the loyalists anymore; it's about fighting some space thing that has absolutely no weakness that has been made thus far. There has been NO way to counter it and where ever it appears suddenly becomes useless.

Not only that, but the few offenses I HAVE managed to get off haven't done anything. Leaf, you may think i've not taken the losses I should have, but given the protection the McKagan fleet has against land based systems, it's pretty much in your favor. You took down three of my highly advanced destroyers - the only ones killed in their existance.

At that, you've not explained where these trains that base this massive, hidden missile system are coming from. They just appear and disappear before McKagan has a chance to attack them. I'm getting ready to launch a massive fucking mission against the infrastructure in Leafanistan, so moving these trains later on will be a dead giveaway.

Another issue is my last attack. You're acting as if these missiles are some Tomahawks set to precision attack bases. They're not. They're set to airbust in the atmosphere, each causing a MASSIVE EMP field that will destroy almost any RADAR or AA system near it. They're not coming down in the arc that a normal missile would, where they'd be engaged easy.

Finally, this is a HEAVILY one sided war. If you look at the statsheet, it's even. But guess what? Next to no one has aided McKagan militarily. You put out this massive "reformists need help!" ad and managed to get a bunch of people REALLY THINKING that McKagan was supporting the CP. I refuse to RP with someone that hasn't read this entier RP arc and understands what is happening.

Hmm....so it acts on an arc and comes back down like a Ballistic missile? Can't I still counter it? Ballistic missiles can still be countered in the upstage. Throw me a bone, and not an EMP tipped one at least. The Reformists won't be happy with this, and nor will the Air Force if suddenly a bunch of their patrol planes fall out of the sky. Though it adds tension to the upcoming peace conference

Tiberium shuts down a lot but the inhibitant will pull up, the problem is that it is a persistant infection and we'll never be truly rid of it. Once the inhibitant is synthesized in greater amounts and the wind blows away cloud cover we can go back to fighting. It is more of a plot device to reveal a more sinister Reformist plot, and as a segue into a peace conference. And how to wrap up the entire Leafanistan in MT/PMT and finally make sense out of the "Books" I've been throwing at you.

I've had a plan, but it takes a very long and confusing road.

And in response to the McKagan-Kraven thing, we both put out a lot of propaganda, and we try to get people to buy it. At least I'm not calling in direct military assistance. I'm trying to get in equipment because the Reformists are poorly armed. The Army depends on the tactical wing of hte air force and the Navy and the Marines to get them places.
McKagan
16-03-2006, 03:52
Hmm....so it acts on an arc and comes back down like a Ballistic missile? Can't I still counter it? Ballistic missiles can still be countered in the upstage. Throw me a bone, and not an EMP tipped one at least. The Reformists won't be happy with this, and nor will the Air Force if suddenly a bunch of their patrol planes fall out of the sky. Though it adds tension to the upcoming peace conference

I'm not saying it's totally un-counterable. But just think about it. If your anti-missile people are seeing these things come in, why would they engage them that early? Wouldn't they want to WAIT until they're a bit more in range of their weapons? They wouldn't be able to tell it wasn't just a regular missile, and would wait on it. That waiting on it would allow them to detonate BEFORE being engaged. You CAN counter it, somewhat. You'd not be able to counter over 40% of them, and that 60% would still be enough to cause massive holes in RADAR networks.

That said, the reformists will get over it. It's not the sign of a new McKagan attack to destroy them all. It's to bring them to the table. They used WMD's against the McKagan fleet. Now that they won't have a massive air defense grid to hide behind for several months they'll be more willing to negotiate or face... rivers of fire.
Leafanistan
16-03-2006, 03:56
I'm not saying it's totally un-counterable. But just think about it. If your anti-missile people are seeing these things come in, why would they engage them that early? Wouldn't they want to WAIT until they're a bit more in range of their weapons? They wouldn't be able to tell it wasn't just a regular missile, and would wait on it. That waiting on it would allow them to detonate BEFORE being engaged. You CAN counter it, somewhat. You'd not be able to counter over 40% of them, and that 60% would still be enough to cause massive holes in RADAR networks.

That said, the reformists will get over it. It's not the sign of a new McKagan attack to destroy them all. It's to bring them to the table. They used WMD's against the McKagan fleet. Now that they won't have a massive air defense grid to hide behind for several months they'll be more willing to negotiate or face... rivers of fire.

My anti-missile people are terrified and will blast them clear out of the sky. But we aern't prepared for this kind of attack. We aren't expected WMDs but still we'll try to use our MASERs and the Red Tidean built defenses to do something.

I have no problem with you knocking huge holes in the RADAR, but I just want to know I can counter it.

Just accept 30-40% or something like that and we'll go to the table.

Though be prepared when a few civilian airliners go down.
McKagan
16-03-2006, 03:59
Oh yeah, I can deal with having massive holes in the RADAR. Think of Mercenaries, if you will. The allies HAVE air superiority, but if you go over certain pockets you are blown to fuck... quickly.

The only thing is, after I start operating in some sort of "corridor," it'll just eat away more and more. Air based cruise missiles are very important. Not only will it give McKagan a new means of offensive, but it'll stop the reformist offensive in its tracks and force it to fall back.

IMAF - once again saving McKagan's ass.
Leafanistan
16-03-2006, 04:20
What do we call the Peace Conference thread?

Leafanistani Civil War Peace Conference?

Whatever, let us go with that title.
McKagan
16-03-2006, 04:33
What do we call the Peace Conference thread?

Leafanistani Civil War Peace Conference?

Whatever, let us go with that title.

Yes - and make sure it's closed.

Are you going to make a post of IMAF gaining partial air superiority?

Futhermore - where is this peace conference going to be held?

As McKagan is officially neutral, any chance we could get it on a McKagan destroyer?
Leafanistan
16-03-2006, 04:36
Yes - and make sure it's closed.

Are you going to make a post of IMAF gaining partial air superiority?

Futhermore - where is this peace conference going to be held?

As McKagan is officially neutral, any chance we could get it on a McKagan destroyer?

For irony's sake how about the Parliament building with the roof blown off the main area.

Like High Father could be there with the IV drip and talking as the breeze floats in from the patch on the roof.

A joint security area, we have Confederate Guards, Army Guards and McKagan guards. though there is always honour in warfare and I suppose the conference will reflect it. Though Kraven....
McKagan
16-03-2006, 04:51
That works too.

A nice... stable location... one that IMAF can have under constant watch and blow the fuck out of should things go bad. :p
Southeastasia
16-03-2006, 12:34
*tries to figure out way to get Bemet*
The Kraven Corporation
16-03-2006, 20:57
For irony's sake how about the Parliament building with the roof blown off the main area.

Like High Father could be there with the IV drip and talking as the breeze floats in from the patch on the roof.

A joint security area, we have Confederate Guards, Army Guards and McKagan guards. though there is always honour in warfare and I suppose the conference will reflect it. Though Kraven....

Are you indicating that I might fuck the Peace conference up???

Because... I might... just to be Kraven, although in reality Im in no position to launch an assault on the Conference yet...

But Perhaps, somthing else, something a little more sinister... and odd...
McKagan
16-03-2006, 22:30
Leaf, now that the Leafanistani AA Grid is crippled (could you RP that a bit, btw?), could it be safe for me to operate in the air around Xi-an Port, and South Towards Berkut?
McKagan
16-03-2006, 23:41
Leaf - I'm about to drop a bunker-buster on this big worm thing. What does it look like? Is it above ground, below ground - ugly?
McKagan
17-03-2006, 00:25
Leafanistan - I'm planning another assault and I need some IC posts and some OOC knowlege.

Is there any tiberium north of Concord? Mainly - it's not covering every square inch of the ground, is it?

I need some IC posts talking about the damage done by the EMP attack. What i'm thinking is that there will be a "lane" cut out through it, where McKagan planes can operate without being attacked. That's not to say that all the equipment there was destroyed - just that enough was to keep what was being left from being highly effective and thus it was moved to the other "side" zones.

Moving on, how close is the 3rd Army to Concord? Didn't you post on them taking over the outer AA array? The MEXAS or whatever?

Are they trying to push into the city? Because I have a plan for a few missions that will all but crush any of the 3rd Army on the road up to Concord...

Note - this is based on how the peace conference RP works. Kraven, right now I'm planning on fighting to Tiberium things a bit and taking control of the skies a bit more before I come after the CP. If you move much you'll be under a massive assault. Unless someone else moves in this is your chance to build a bit.
Leafanistan
21-03-2006, 03:40
OOC: Thanks Jolt, when I meant instant notification, I meant it, not I check a few days later cause something is up and find a whole slew of new posts.

Leafanistan - I'm planning another assault and I need some IC posts and some OOC knowlege.

Is there any tiberium north of Concord? Mainly - it's not covering every square inch of the ground, is it?

There are large fields of it, but around that area the radiation is hurting troops not in full NBC suits or NBC shielding vehicles which are few and far between as they had just spent 3 days slaughtering each other. The lighter vehicles are gone adn infantry can't just ride around in tanks.


I need some IC posts talking about the damage done by the EMP attack. What i'm thinking is that there will be a "lane" cut out through it, where McKagan planes can operate without being attacked. That's not to say that all the equipment there was destroyed - just that enough was to keep what was being left from being highly effective and thus it was moved to the other "side" zones.

You are supposed to RP how many of your missiles have been destroyed and I do the rest.

Moving on, how close is the 3rd Army to Concord? Didn't you post on them taking over the outer AA array? The MEXAS or whatever?

The 3rd Army is in Concord with a much greater force than intel worked out, they had spent the time in the snowstorm training heavily and are now much more experienced in warfare than the conscripts. They had also sent out a division to sabotage hte roads and slowed the million man reinforcements from Port Stevens. So far the 3rd Army has declared a temporary truce without official orders and is trying to fight off the Tiberium meance. However, the 3rd Army's 89th Mechnized divsion has blown the roads and a major bridge on a major mountain pass. THey are thickly entrenched and we will probably bomb it once it is done so we can try using helicopters to lift a large portion of hte troops across.


Note - this is based on how the peace conference RP works. Kraven, right now I'm planning on fighting to Tiberium things a bit and taking control of the skies a bit more before I come after the CP. If you move much you'll be under a massive assault. Unless someone else moves in this is your chance to build a bit.

The snowstorm over means that it is clear-er, but it is still winter, so cloudly days with constant flurries. So instead of sweeping the floors every 2 hours, it is every 12 hours. LASERs can now shine through without too mcuh interference but you stil have to be a bit closer to prevent total disruption of the beam. That also means my MASERs on the inland are no longer viable anti ballistic missile weapons but still retani enough accuracy to hit low flying aircraft and helicopters. Though the big bombers are still otu of range. Though the Reformists have a surprise.
McKagan
21-03-2006, 03:45
You are supposed to RP how many of your missiles have been destroyed and I do the rest.

Leaf, I hate to say it, but i've not seen anyone else on NS RP missile attacks that way. It's pointless and stupid. If we have to RP a missile attack like that wouldn't we have to have a series of posts for every bullet being fired? No one does it that way. I fire missiles and you post about how many you were able to shoot down and what they hit.
Leafanistan
21-03-2006, 03:48
Leaf, I hate to say it, but i've not seen anyone else on NS RP missile attacks that way. It's pointless and stupid. If we have to RP a missile attack like that wouldn't we have to have a series of posts for every bullet being fired? No one does it that way. I fire missiles and you post about how many you were able to shoot down and what they hit.

OOC: I obviously hang aroudn the wierd threads. Ah well, I will post downing 50% of the missiles in the heavily defended coastline but a wide 95km wide corridor leading nearly all of the way to Concord from the ocean.
McKagan
21-03-2006, 03:51
OOC: I obviously hang aroudn the wierd threads. Ah well, I will post downing 50% of the missiles in the heavily defended coastline but a wide 95km wide corridor leading nearly all of the way to Concord from the ocean.

That works... and didn't you say that the MEXAS arrays are no longer effective against high level bombing...

:)
Leafanistan
21-03-2006, 04:01
That works... and didn't you say that the MEXAS arrays are no longer effective against high level bombing...

:)

It is the RADAR arrays along with MASER stations that make up the defenses of Leafanistan. And the Reformists have a surprise for mass bombing raids.
McKagan
21-03-2006, 04:08
It is the RADAR arrays along with MASER stations that make up the defenses of Leafanistan. And the Reformists have a surprise for mass bombing raids.

You're going to throw a bunch of those plasma fuckers at me, aren't you?
Leafanistan
21-03-2006, 04:11
You're going to throw a bunch of those plasma fuckers at me, aren't you?

That is way too obvious.
McKagan
21-03-2006, 04:41
Are you sure you're going to want to put so much of your AA assets in the field THIS early? Also, how long is it to both the reformists and loyalists start running out of equipment?

Hey, btw, there's another post in the thread where those Special Forces i've got are flying at like rooftop level through Concord about to LASER designate that giant worm thing for a massively overdone IMAF strike. What's this worm like? Something that's big and ugly on top of the ground?

Regardless, I can't wait to have IMAF blow it up.
Leafanistan
21-03-2006, 16:21
Are you sure you're going to want to put so much of your AA assets in the field THIS early? Also, how long is it to both the reformists and loyalists start running out of equipment?

Hey, btw, there's another post in the thread where those Special Forces i've got are flying at like rooftop level through Concord about to LASER designate that giant worm thing for a massively overdone IMAF strike. What's this worm like? Something that's big and ugly on top of the ground?

Regardless, I can't wait to have IMAF blow it up.

Imagine a giant mouth sticking up out of the ground. Now imagine it full of teeth and with tendrils sticking out everywhere. There are about 4 of them and they can only be spotted from the air clearly. Once that happens artillery and airstrikes can be called in. Though if you kill them the body shoots out Tiberium gas, and the tendirls shrivel up.
McKagan
21-03-2006, 22:23
I'll have no problem with location. But there's FOUR of them?

If that's the case i'm going to edit my post to send a different group of fighters.
Leafanistan
22-03-2006, 01:14
I'll have no problem with location. But there's FOUR of them?

If that's the case i'm going to edit my post to send a different group of fighters.

They are in a cluster surrouded by Tiberium, their tendrils snake up for kilometres.
McKagan
22-03-2006, 23:14
I'm going to go make a post with the attack now.
McKagan
22-03-2006, 23:55
Post made - for some reason I am sort of proud of it. I think I just RP air warfare better than other...
McKagan
23-03-2006, 23:26
Leaf - I suggest that you make the "giant worm things" the weakness to Tiberium. Each tiberium "network" should require the support of a giant worm sitting on the surface (or at least with its opening there) to get resources to sustain the life of the plants. That way I have a viable way to fight back against them and IMAF has something to do... not to mention the IMNS (I'm adding an S to the Imperial McKagan Navy)

The thing is that the tiberium plants can grow back fast too - so even though there won't be as many in the nation - they'll still be there.

If this is acceptable I'm going to kick off an air campaign.
The Kraven Corporation
23-03-2006, 23:28
Leaf - I suggest that you make the "giant worm things" the weakness to Tiberium. Each tiberium "network" should require the support of a giant worm sitting on the surface (or at least with its opening there) to get resources to sustain the life of the plants. That way I have a viable way to fight back against them and IMAF has something to do... not to mention the IMNS (I'm adding an S to the Imperial McKagan Navy)

The thing is that the tiberium plants can grow back fast too - so even though there won't be as many in the nation - they'll still be there.

If this is acceptable I'm going to kick off an air campaign.

OOh a Dune Reference... Nice... The Worms are Connected to the Spice Melange! and so the Tiberium Worms to the Tiberium, that would be very cool..

As for my post, I'll get one up soon, i just want to see what happens with this Peace Conference, Im considering Storming it and using it to announce the Return of Kraven to the world, Considering its probably going to be Televised...
McKagan
23-03-2006, 23:35
Kraven, how many Capital Police do you think you have in Leafanistan right now? If my air campaign is alright i'm going to kick it off in the area around Port Xi-an so I can put troops on the ground easier there.

Oh... and if the Peace Conference is on a McKagan vessel it would be fun for you to storm it. If it's on the ground then McKagan will probably put a top notch CODEX team there for you to tangle with.
The Kraven Corporation
23-03-2006, 23:40
Kraven, how many Capital Police do you think you have in Leafanistan right now? If my air campaign is alright i'm going to kick it off in the area around Port Xi-an so I can put troops on the ground easier there.

Oh... and if the Peace Conference is on a McKagan vessel it would be fun for you to storm it. If it's on the ground then McKagan will probably put a top notch CODEX team there for you to tangle with.

Interesting, that would be interesting, there is about 25 to 50 Capitol Police and a Reichmarshal called Kordesh
McKagan
23-03-2006, 23:44
The only thing is that McKagan is looking for some propaganda to use against the Capital Police. Making them look evil doesn't work - but parading dead CP Heads around on sticks in Concord would probably do a nice job at making them look weak. Now that IMAF can operate better in Leafanistan (and will be able to go just about anywhere during the cease fire, lest a massive air attack will be forthcoming) do you think they'd let the CP shoot up a conference?
The Kraven Corporation
23-03-2006, 23:57
The only thing is that McKagan is looking for some propaganda to use against the Capital Police. Making them look evil doesn't work - but parading dead CP Heads around on sticks in Concord would probably do a nice job at making them look weak. Now that IMAF can operate better in Leafanistan (and will be able to go just about anywhere during the cease fire, lest a massive air attack will be forthcoming) do you think they'd let the CP shoot up a conference?


Hmmm, Not shoot up a Conference, But hold it Hostage and use it to basicaly announce to the world that Kraven is back, and that a new reign of Terror yada yada, general Evil stuff...
McKagan
24-03-2006, 00:43
Hmmm, Not shoot up a Conference, But hold it Hostage and use it to basicaly announce to the world that Kraven is back, and that a new reign of Terror yada yada, general Evil stuff...

The thing is that McKagan doesn't want it held inside Leafanistan. If Leafanistan forces it to be then McKagan will be paranoid about the CP attacking and only send low scale people. Then when the CP take over be like "we told you so."
Leafanistan
24-03-2006, 02:50
Don't worry about the worms, the Reformists are pissed off about it just as much as you. I have a solution to the Tiberium, we just hack and blow our way through it. Mining is the answer.
McKagan
24-03-2006, 03:07
Don't worry about the worms, the Reformists are pissed off about it just as much as you. I have a solution to the Tiberium, we just hack and blow our way through it. Mining is the answer.

I'm not worrying about the worms. I'm trying to find a way to play around with them more.
Leafanistan
24-03-2006, 03:13
I'm not worrying about the worms. I'm trying to find a way to play around with them more.

A powerful hit in the worm's mouth will kill it, the tendrils will shrivel and they cannot survive. You stil have troops on the beachead in Soyuzlova, maybe its time to check out why I closed off that base.
Leafanistan
24-03-2006, 03:28
McKagan, want to do a SF operation deep in enemy held Southern Leafanistan? I've been thinking of infiltrating Graveston Military Base which is on the coast and is a research facility for hte Reformists and it is also where they are organizing their new navy (DMG Military Storefront purchase, 2 Big Ass Navy Packages which are delaying the Navy in the territories). They are working on something big and maybe we should head down there and take a peak. They are also store a massive amount of anti-shipping missiles and the machinery and plans to make many more of the foreign missiles. I say we find out what is going on, plant some bombs, leave their base and kill all their doodz.
McKagan
24-03-2006, 03:43
McKagan, want to do a SF operation deep in enemy held Southern Leafanistan? I've been thinking of infiltrating Graveston Military Base which is on the coast and is a research facility for hte Reformists and it is also where they are organizing their new navy (DMG Military Storefront purchase, 2 Big Ass Navy Packages which are delaying the Navy in the territories). They are working on something big and maybe we should head down there and take a peak. They are also store a massive amount of anti-shipping missiles and the machinery and plans to make many more of the foreign missiles. I say we find out what is going on, plant some bombs, leave their base and kill all their doodz.

Where is it on the map?

If you think there's a decent chance that we'll be able to shut down their anti-ship force and learn an ungodly amount of stuff about their navy then YEAH. I'll get a DART team down there. Why don't you back me up with some loyalist commandos, though?
Leafanistan
24-03-2006, 03:48
Where is it on the map?

If you think there's a decent chance that we'll be able to shut down their anti-ship force and learn an ungodly amount of stuff about their navy then YEAH. I'll get a DART team down there. Why don't you back me up with some loyalist commandos, though?

The map only shows the northern section, I'll eventually produce a massive integrated map showing everything, but in the meantime, sections will do. It isn't on the map, the thing is it is a crossover with a future campaign, like the preliminary to the fighting down there.

We'll find out their exact numbers and what they are hiding from our satellites via some impressive new jamming software. We'll also destroy their cache of foreign anti-shipping missiles and their plans to build more. You'll also find out a terrible secret about them.

I'll bring a Naval Spec ops too, and the Mafia to provide 'discreet' assistance.
McKagan
24-03-2006, 04:07
The map only shows the northern section, I'll eventually produce a massive integrated map showing everything, but in the meantime, sections will do. It isn't on the map, the thing is it is a crossover with a future campaign, like the preliminary to the fighting down there.

We'll find out their exact numbers and what they are hiding from our satellites via some impressive new jamming software. We'll also destroy their cache of foreign anti-shipping missiles and their plans to build more. You'll also find out a terrible secret about them.

I'll bring a Naval Spec ops too, and the Mafia to provide 'discreet' assistance.

Are we putting them ashore via naval stuff, or using some mafia tricks to ship them in?

Regardless - lets make it a new thread. Along with the peace conference thread. The main combat for everything else could stay in the Concord one - but we need to seperate it a bit more.
Leafanistan
25-03-2006, 18:21
Are we putting them ashore via naval stuff, or using some mafia tricks to ship them in?

Regardless - lets make it a new thread. Along with the peace conference thread. The main combat for everything else could stay in the Concord one - but we need to seperate it a bit more.

The Mafia is trying to control the food aid that the various factions are trying to organize with the faliure of fish farms due to Tiberium raids. We can sneak in on a Confederate Butter Concern truck and the Mafia workers will park over an internal sewer grate and we'll enter that way.
McKagan
25-03-2006, 18:33
Are you going to start a new thread for it?

If you do, include a message to the McKagan Imperial Security Agency requesting Special Forces aid and including the mission specifics and where to meet the special forces at. I'll deploy some DART's from a Frigate or Sumbarine to meet your guys.
Leafanistan
25-03-2006, 18:40
Are you going to start a new thread for it?

If you do, include a message to the McKagan Imperial Security Agency requesting Special Forces aid and including the mission specifics and where to meet the special forces at. I'll deploy some DART's from a Frigate or Sumbarine to meet your guys.

Yes. It'll also be occuring chronologically to the Seige of Concord, the Rise of the Petty Tyrants, and before the Reform this! Campaign and is one of the reasons it will start.
McKagan
25-03-2006, 18:46
Are you going to start a bunch of other campaigns soon, too?

I think the Seige of Concord is effectively over. If the peace conference fails IMAF is going to bomb the reformists so heavily that they'll wish they never started to move towards Concord. The Special Forces RP could coincide with the Peace Conference one.
Leafanistan
25-03-2006, 18:52
Are you going to start a bunch of other campaigns soon, too?

I think the Seige of Concord is effectively over. If the peace conference fails IMAF is going to bomb the reformists so heavily that they'll wish they never started to move towards Concord. The Special Forces RP could coincide with the Peace Conference one.

The Seige is over, now is the time for peace, but with fluid time I can have this coincide with other campaigns that will occur for us to RP later, but happen at the same time in NS time. That sure sounded confusing...:confused:
McKagan
25-03-2006, 18:59
The Seige is over, now is the time for peace, but with fluid time I can have this coincide with other campaigns that will occur for us to RP later, but happen at the same time in NS time. That sure sounded confusing...:confused:

I see what you're getting at. As long as the other campaigns aren't massive and would force me to divert resources it wouldn't be hard to do.
Leafanistan
25-03-2006, 19:05
I see what you're getting at. As long as the other campaigns aren't massive and would force me to divert resources it wouldn't be hard to do.

The Rise of hte Petty Tyrants is going to be heavily naval with Marine landings. in the territories, popular nationalistic movements have arisen, mostly with powerful religious agreements.

Algeristan is now communist and calls itself Red Algeristan. I believe Willink has reinforced it. "For the glory of Marx"

Saharistan is coming under the sway of a cultist group called the Brotherhood of Nod and the Field Marshall there has defected. "Peace through Power"

Wasser (Rovonia) has declared it is Anglican and it is pushing its message of "Strength through Unity. Unity through Faith."
McKagan
25-03-2006, 23:00
So we're heading towards some naval warfare? Where will that be at, geography wise? Deep sea, blue water style stuff? I can't wait - if that's true. I just finished getting the specs for my Avisron Class Destroyer Future Surface Combatant.
Leafanistan
25-03-2006, 23:38
So we're heading towards some naval warfare? Where will that be at, geography wise? Deep sea, blue water style stuff? I can't wait - if that's true. I just finished getting the specs for my Avisron Class Destroyer Future Surface Combatant.

Blue water stuff, McKagan. Nearly the entirety of the Leafanistani Navy is engaging them off he coasts of territories they are trying to reconquer. However we are unsure of their numbers adn that SF raid will clarify it.
McKagan
26-03-2006, 00:00
Just on an OOC basis - how many submarines does this enemy fleet have?

This SF raid (did you make a thread for it I don't know about) will also help us identify their supply lines - which I will specially blow to fuck before engaging the fleets.
Leafanistan
26-03-2006, 04:28
Just on an OOC basis - how many submarines does this enemy fleet have?

This SF raid (did you make a thread for it I don't know about) will also help us identify their supply lines - which I will specially blow to fuck before engaging the fleets.

you'll find out with the rest of the Loyalists once we complete the raid and transmit the documents via narrow-beam laser to an offshore bouy connected to a submarine. From there we'll make our escape and detonate the explosives.
Southeastasia
26-03-2006, 04:54
My diplomat anyone?
Leafanistan
26-03-2006, 04:57
My diplomat anyone?

You didn't do anything about him, so I'm going to assume he left with the team successfully.
Southeastasia
26-03-2006, 05:27
I didn't do anything because I had RL issues to attend to. Let's fluid time here and there, shall we?
McKagan
26-03-2006, 06:12
Leaf - within a bit of IC time I'll be deploying a tiberium based deterrant. At the peace conference I'm going to press for an agreement banning tiberium warfare and a clause to help fight the tiberium threat. Doing that, i'll leak that McKagan has an "uncertain number" of tiberium armed submarines with "uncertain numbers" of missiles.

It's a cold war, my friend.
Leafanistan
26-03-2006, 18:47
Southeastasia, the RP has moved a bit too far forward for us to feel that is comfortable.

Leaf - within a bit of IC time I'll be deploying a tiberium based deterrant. At the peace conference I'm going to press for an agreement banning tiberium warfare and a clause to help fight the tiberium threat. Doing that, i'll leak that McKagan has an "uncertain number" of tiberium armed submarines with "uncertain numbers" of missiles.

It's a cold war, my friend.

Tiberium is as helpful as it is harmful, like you said earlier. While its crystals hungrily devour most of the elements it encounters, it makes minierals easier to mine as they suddenly appear on the surface, and oil appears nearly completely refined.

It will slowly devour a tank unless it has a thin coating of a nonreactive metal such as gold or tantalum or at a lesser degree stainless steel or aluminium when in the presense of oxygen. Anything that is stable atomically or has formed a relatively stable oxide layer to ensure that Tiberium has no where to bond with it. Even after a while vehicles will have to have crystals stripped off and panels replaced. The crystals will stick to holes in the material or debris and start to grow and clog machinery. This can cause a problem when everything has to be coated in a thin layer of these metals (usually via electrolysis) to prevent corrosion.

Tiberium Vinifera, the tall, explosive, blue variant gives off high levels of gamma radiation and if a fire starts the crystals tend to explode.

McKagan, you know the Loyalists would be glad to cooperate with you on Tiberium, Naval Command has known about it and is trying to kill off Tiberium Algae before it spreads too far.

The Tiberium inhibitant only works on the flora and fauna Tiberium mutates, and is ineffective against crystals which are a very reactive mineraliod.
McKagan
26-03-2006, 18:59
Well gold doesn't react with much - so it's not a very big stretch to say that the DART's would have (by default) used a gold laced canister. Will that be ok for transporting it?

I'm going to start launching planes to burn out all of the surface worms I can find in just a bit.

What would extremly potent napalm do to tiberium-algae?
Leafanistan
26-03-2006, 21:47
Well gold doesn't react with much - so it's not a very big stretch to say that the DART's would have (by default) used a gold laced canister. Will that be ok for transporting it?

I'm going to start launching planes to burn out all of the surface worms I can find in just a bit.

What would extremly potent napalm do to tiberium-algae?

I'll give you that one.

The surface worms spread very quickly so just follow the mats of veins to the mouth adn bomb away. The Air Force is already doing that to secure the area.

The napalm would burn on top of the ocean, the hard calcite shells of the algae will prevent too much damage, a few will pop and liberate their inner shells, the rest will be stressed and produce Tiberium gas as a byproduct which will rapidly ignite and cause a massive localized explosion sweeping away the oxygen and putting out the fire in that area.
McKagan
27-03-2006, 04:44
Leaf, when do we start the special forces RP?
McKagan
28-03-2006, 00:24
Leaf - can we start the SF RP now? At that, I have some other ideas and questions.

The question is simple - how much profit will ASI make on the chemical deal?

I'm also excited about the peace conference thread. I know you want this war to go on and develop more but by having a peace conference planned this early shows that something has to happen to throw it off.
Southeastasia
28-03-2006, 11:30
Southeastasia, the RP has moved a bit too far forward for us to feel that is comfortable.
Rats. Oh well, I can still role-play at least.
Leafanistan
30-03-2006, 00:53
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=474605

Guys? No one wants to talk? :(
McKagan
30-03-2006, 01:21
Leaf, is it same to assume that the area north of Concord is clear of just about everything now? :p

IMAF scores again.
Leafanistan
30-03-2006, 03:22
Leaf, is it same to assume that the area north of Concord is clear of just about everything now? :p

IMAF scores again.

Worms are all dead and many Fiends and Visceriods are dead when you hit that Vinifera patch. Along with a mining team. And you threw crystals miles into the air. North of Concord is still infected but thanks to vigorious mining we are slowing down the growth and inhibiting the plants are keeping them from spreading. The good news is that major threats are gone. The bad news is that we have to do this slowly and surely.

And to prove I am not making this up as I go along. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiberium
McKagan
30-03-2006, 03:45
What McKagan will probably do is ask that the mining personnel pull out completely while we carpet bomb the area.

BTW - Sorry for not seeing the conference thread. You should post the link for the thread here as soon as you make it. I responded to that, regardless.
Leafanistan
30-03-2006, 03:55
What McKagan will probably do is ask that the mining personnel pull out completely while we carpet bomb the area.

BTW - Sorry for not seeing the conference thread. You should post the link for the thread here as soon as you make it. I responded to that, regardless.

Carpet bombing doesn't solve anything really. It may actually make things worse as you scatter crystals everywhere and create a massive hole for them to grow. Bombed fields show a new form that may be appearing from heat pressure. Red Tiberium may be more dangerous than anything else.
McKagan
30-03-2006, 03:59
Carpet bombing doesn't solve anything really.

Try telling IMAF that. :p

We are gaining ground, though.
Leafanistan
30-03-2006, 04:07
Try telling IMAF that. :p

We are gaining ground, though.

I'm gaining ground.

You're blowing it to our altitude.

;)
McKagan
30-03-2006, 04:18
I'm not even attacking the reformists yet. :p
Leafanistan
30-03-2006, 04:19
I'm not even attacking the reformists yet. :lol:

What they've done... Xenu's toenail it is terrifying what they are doing.
McKagan
31-03-2006, 03:50
Leaf, look at the map. McKagan controls the bay that Er and Nabei are located on. I'm assuming both of those cities are reformist held?

Now look at the long CHAIN of dots down the island chain. Are all of those reformist held towns or cities too?

I have an idea for an Amphibious RP that will end the fighting in Leafanistan later.
Leafanistan
31-03-2006, 03:53
Leaf, look at the map. McKagan controls the bay that Er and Nabei are located on. I'm assuming both of those cities are reformist held?

Now look at the long CHAIN of dots down the island chain. Are all of those reformist held towns or cities too?

I have an idea for an Amphibious RP that will end the fighting in Leafanistan later.

How many ships do you have that you can say, you control the bay? A serious attempt to get you to screw off by the Reformists is always possible. That and with the new anti-shipping missiles they are deploying they can hit you.
McKagan
31-03-2006, 04:01
How many ships do you have that you can say, you control the bay? A serious attempt to get you to screw off by the Reformists is always possible. That and with the new anti-shipping missiles they are deploying they can hit you.

The McKagan navy is all about being efficient. With about 30 surface ships they can stealth their way into the mouth of the bay and hold it. A massed missile attack against them isn't very effective because counting the ships when they're only visable on sensors for a short time is impossible. For controlling shipping INSIDE the bay there's always a dozen or so subs roaming around.

That RP is for later though. It's just something i'm looking at.
McKagan
01-04-2006, 19:14
Can we go ahead and start some more combat somewhere? Either the Special Forces RP or have someone shoot up the peace conference?
McKagan
02-04-2006, 21:35
Kraven, how many Capitol Police are you moving? How many groups are they in?

IMAF is flying UAV's and UCAV's over the tiberium looking for targets (despite not bombing anymore) so you won't slip through very easily.
The Kraven Corporation
02-04-2006, 21:42
Kraven, how many Capitol Police are you moving? How many groups are they in?

IMAF is flying UAV's and UCAV's over the tiberium looking for targets (despite not bombing anymore) so you won't slip through very easily.


25 in total, moving in 5 groups of 5, spread out across a wide area, and moving at night... During the day, they will hide in barns, or farms or anything that can hide their presence
McKagan
02-04-2006, 21:52
The IMAF UAV's all use thermal imaging and Forward Looking Infrared. Moving at night won't be a major aid.

Can we move that RP to the Conference thread?
Leafanistan
02-04-2006, 21:55
The IMAF UAV's all use thermal imaging and Forward Looking Infrared. Moving at night won't be a major aid.

Can we move that RP to the Conference thread?

Tiberium being radioactive emits heat melting permafrost and generally destablizing the conditions around it. If they stick close to it they can avoid good detection especially in thick patches of them where crystals are everywhere.

They are also moving in the rugged mountains of Northern Leafanistan so finding them is going to be hard. Concord sits on a natural plateau formed by volcanic activity.
Leafanistan
02-04-2006, 21:58
Avoid the Shiners and direct engagement in Tiberium patches, especially over the mountains, harvesters can't get too close and it has to be manual work for the mining team.

The current strategy for removing this new Tiberium outbreak is to mine it faster than it can grow and inhibiting plants that spread it.
The Kraven Corporation
02-04-2006, 22:01
whats the things that are waiting for my CP in the thread
im not sure whats going on here....
McKagan
02-04-2006, 22:01
Tiberium being radioactive emits heat melting permafrost and generally destablizing the conditions around it. If they stick close to it they can avoid good detection especially in thick patches of them where crystals are everywhere.

They are also moving in the rugged mountains of Northern Leafanistan so finding them is going to be hard. Concord sits on a natural plateau formed by volcanic activity.

Interesting.

Meh - let them get to Concord. 25 Capitol Police against 120 IMA Soldiers with 12 Armored Fighting Vehicle's and a Light UAV is a fight i'll take. Especially since we're supported by an army of Leafanistani troops.
The Kraven Corporation
02-04-2006, 22:03
Interesting.

Meh - let them get to Concord. 25 Capitol Police against 120 IMA Soldiers with 12 Armored Fighting Vehicle's and a Light UAV is a fight i'll take. Especially since we're supported by an army of Leafanistani troops.

I don't expect anything to happen, i just may as well attack it, coz they aren't doing much other than twiddleing their thumbs up in the north...
McKagan
02-04-2006, 22:05
Leaf - if McKagan airdropped some Light Infantry into an area (say... 300 of them) without any real heavy equipment - would they be able to avoid the tiberium?
Leafanistan
13-04-2006, 18:52
Leaf - if McKagan airdropped some Light Infantry into an area (say... 300 of them) without any real heavy equipment - would they be able to avoid the tiberium?

The Tiberium has become a forest now. They would need to be in full NBC gear and carrying disposable weapons because they may become encrusted with Tiberium after a while.

Sorry for my absense, a friend nearly broke her leg, my Java teacher is throwing projects at us left and right because he needs to make up the grade and his absenses and delays are throwing the schedule apart.