NationStates Jolt Archive

Its been clear, with PETA blowing shit up left and right, and civil rights at an all time low Leafanistan is failing. Its Parliament can't sastify the massive population. While the territories remain loyal, those in the mainland are getting angry.

So there are going to be factions obviously, and a good ole massacre to start the Civil War.

Reformists

Members of the Confederate Socialist Reform Party. They are pushing for a Democratic Socialist state and toward a program of peace with the world and isolationism. However, they are conversely ruthless with their practices and will do anything to hold onto power as it becomes clear later.

They want to leave all alliances including the SWC and isolate leafanistan.

Alliance

The National Liberation Party, the Labour Party (Facists) have allied to lead a revolt against the current government and they are mostly backed by the territories whose Parliaments they control. They want a Facist state, obviously the Leafanistani Red Mafia (Redfellas) are in opposition.

They distrust foreigners and want to leave the SWC or 'encourage' them to change to a facist system.

Communists

Arguably they are the weakest in power, holding very few seats except in the tiny territory of the Leafanistani Algeristan Strip. However, they appeal to the idealistic youth. They also have heavy ties with the Red Brigade terrorist group.

A grassroots movement they lack a consistent opinion on the SWC.

Loyalists

Backers of High Father, the original leader of Leafanistan for nearly 200 years, seemingly immortal. They want a return to the Father Knows Best State, with a benevolent dictator (High Father), a limited Senate, and strong economic reform to a partial command economy. They form the military elite and are probably the best armed faction with the support of hte hardliners in Leafanistan.

Very supportive of alliances with foreign nations.

Fringe Parties

Contains such colourful characters such as the Sword of God (alliance of Christian extremists), the Leafanistani Red Mafia, Prophet's Light (Muslim extremists), and the Scientologists. While the Red Mafia is the best armed, they lack the support from the religious crazies these people have.

These guys just want what they want.

I'm holding recruitment for allies to RP and support certain factions. Enemies (thats right Sahari....whatever, and Frozopia you can come too) can also help. I'm also hoping to expand the underlying collapse and expound a bit more of my nation. Recruitment for the descent into chaos...begin!

I'll go with the Loyalists...

OOC: If you need peacekeepers I would be happy to provide some.

OOC: If you need peacekeepers I would be happy to provide some.

Any specific support group? (You seem a bit young, and don't you have a terrorist RP going on at hte same time?)

Would support the Reformists.

Also, have a terrorist thing going, have peacekeepers in another country and am almost on economic collapse.

The Lone Alliance would provide covert aid to the Loyalists, and provide a government in Exile if need be.
They don't agree with the Socialist stance in isolationism.

The Black hand would provide enough aid to keep the Mafia from being wiped out. (They need their contacts.)

McKagan would support... I don't know. The most pro-SWC nation. We'd have alot of Special Forces running around blowing the fuck out of various things.

Nistolonia might send in some SpecOps forces, though probably more to take advantage of the conflict then to help resolve it.

^^ Imperializing, that would put you up against a lot of the other factions. Want to try a good old fashioned invade a territory while chaos reigns thing?

With the whole fluid time thing I'll try to stagger the RP with campaigns, such as trying to win territories, one province at a time and ocassionally launch a Tet Offensive style attack. I think the outer territories like Saharistan, Rovonia, and the Algeristani Strip should revolt first.

Saharistani was Muslim Extremist along with Algeristan.

And Rovonia was facist. They don't have good memories about their original ruling parties.

Saharistan would be Loyalist.

Algeristan communist.

And Rovonia will be up for grabs.

McKagan would support... I don't know. The most pro-SWC nation. We'd have alot of Special Forces running around blowing the fuck out of various things.

The Loyalists are adament about having a higher presense in foreign affairs and High Father is a personal friend of most of your national leaders.

The Loyalists are adament about having a higher presense in foreign affairs and High Father is a personal friend of most of your national leaders.

I take it they control most of the heavy military hardware? The navy, etc? I'd probably support them just to gain a safe base of operations.

However, I feel it is time to make my nation a bit more evil, so I don't know.

I take it they control most of the heavy military hardware? The navy, etc? I'd probably support them just to gain a safe base of operations.

However, I feel it is time to make my nation a bit more evil, so I don't know.

Yes, Supreme Commander of all Confederate Naval Forces Admiral Sandra O'Toole is a hardline Loyalist and is one of the leading people trying to stop Defense spending from being cut. Was married to John Alleulia, divorced and she changed back to her maiden name.

Field Marshall of all Confederate Armies is General Zheng Xiao, a Reformist and an aggressive one.

Air and Space Marshall Samantha Arcturus is the oldest daughter of High Father and a loyalist. Though she does have a Reformist MP for a husband.

Field Marshall for Marine Units Colonel Idi Maklov is a communist but doesn't buy into it entirely and publically supports the Facists.

Captain John Alleulia is currently commander of the Confederate Guard and is another hardline Loyalist. He divorced Sandra O'Toole 4 years previous and tensions are still high.

Missile Command is a joint organization and no one person controls it. They will remain neutral as neither faction would want a nuclear engagement.

The Civil Defense Initiatives are controlled by local Army garrisons.

(Fixed a mixup)

The leader of hte Reformists is Cynthia Ives, currently the Prime Minister.

The leaders of the Alliance are Retired Colonel Maxwell Vienna from the National Liberation Party and John Fox from the Labour Party.

There is no leader of hte Communist party.

Obviously the leader of hte Loyalist faction is High Father himself.

Red Mafia is secretly controlled by Cinncinatti Jones of Division 39 of the Office of Naval Intelligence.

Sword of Light and Prophet's Light have no real leader but a variety of figures hold the 'high cards' so to speak.

Currently:

Amazonian Beasts: Loyalist
Union Canada: Reformist
McKagan: Loyalist
Nistolia: Independent

Well, generally dictatorships don't fare too well for the people's rights, but High Father was truly a benevolent dictator, IMO, and he is a personal friend of my President. Beyond that, we didn't have any qualms with the High Father regime, so I guess you can sign us up for the Loyalists.

Leaf, would you mind if I used some tech that could be considered early PMT? I'm talking mainly my Spectral Operatives and my hypersonic high-altitude bomber.

Well, generally dictatorships don't fare too well for the people's rights, but High Father was truly a benevolent dictator, IMO, and he is a personal friend of my President. Beyond that, we didn't have any qualms with the High Father regime, so I guess you can sign us up for the Loyalists.

Leaf, would you mind if I used some tech that could be considered early PMT? I'm talking mainly my Spectral Operatives and my hypersonic high-altitude bomber.

Those 'ghosts' are a bit insane, but they go well with the whole High Father's whole life is a livign torment and he manifests fire unwillingly.

I need communists, and facists, what happened to all the evil nations?

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I'll post something tomorrow, it's late now...

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I'll post something tomorrow, it's late now...

Would you mind supporting hte Facists, they do want a Government working with labour and corporations to create a partial command economy.

I'm not exactly an allie, but I'd like RPing the "Sword Of God".

I'm not exactly an allie, but I'd like RPing the "Sword Of God".

I want minimal foreign interference so you get the spot of militant christian extremists. You lack organization but make up for it in zeal and insanity.

Cool deal. You call, I'll ball.

Leafy, could i be in to support the Communists ?

Saharistan, Rovonia, and the Algeristani Strip should revolt first.

Saharistani was Muslim Extremist along with Algeristan.

And Rovonia was facist. They don't have good memories about their original ruling parties.

Saharistan would be Loyalist.

Algeristan communist.

And Rovonia will be up for grabs.

Ill ask my brother about rping as his Saharistani-clone

Okay talked it over.

The Lone Alliance will Back the Loyalists.
The Black Hand of Nod plans to guarentee the Survival of the Leafanistani Red Mafia, as well as helping them gain more power. (At the expense of the other smaller groups)

So Leafanistan, the news finally got out at last.

IIRC, you told me that High Father was the threat to the stability of Leafanistan....why is that?

Ok... While the Loyalists don't exactly share our point of view... And we're not exactly Allies... The government has decided to back them up (I tried to overrule it, but oh well :p), wanting to see the 'current' Leafanistan survive.

So yeah, I'll be with the Loyalists.

I guess I could support the Alliance, the Facist party.

Juumanistra would be interested in bankrolling the Sword of God: Nothing so conspicuous as military advisors or SpecForces, just cash and armaments. If you're looking for people to provide that kind of support in the RP, that is.

Ill join in two different ways.

The Loyalists will recieve support from the Red Tide Goverment. They would probably deploy a Carrier Battlegroup, a Wing of Fighters, and a Corps sized ground formation(that is, 175,000 men(excluding logistics personnel) formed into three Infantry Divisions(which are actually truck based infantry), one Mechanized-Infantry Division, and one Armored Division(20,000 men per division), as well as three extra brigades of three different types(5,000 men per brigade)).

The other way is the Red Tide Mafia, who would join the Leafanistan Mafia.... obviously.

BTW I've decided to update my military so I can compete with other MT players. Its come to my attention that I was RPing a long way behind everyone else. That has changed.
I dont know what I will deploy, probably not as much as Red Tide.

If possible, I'd be willing to back the Loyalists with my own military. My contribution would be something along the lines of Red Tide's, Corps-level deployment with naval and air force units.

Does everyone have to go deploying godlike numbers of troops? I'd like a Special Forces/Character RP; myself. But it really depends on how Leafanistan starts the RP.

Im the same. I prefer smaller numbers.

Im the same. I prefer smaller numbers.

I'm not saying everyone has to limit themselves to 14 man Operations; but ARMIES are totally out of this, IMO. The most McKagan would deploy would be MAYBE a base worth of Special Forces; by Leafanistani consent (since we're allies and all.) I don't know how everyone else would go about it.

OOC:Heh, you should be thankful, most of the 'veterans' of NS have a tendency to deploy MILLIONS of troops in one go... if Leafanistan wants I can tone it down to two Mechanised-Infantry Divisions.

Would you mind if I bring in a mercenary(s) into this? I've always wanted to do an RP with a freelance fighter sqaudron.

In the end its Leafanistan's call.....

OOC:Heh, you should be thankful, most of the 'veterans' of NS have a tendency to deploy MILLIONS of troops in one go... if Leafanistan wants I can tone it down to two Mechanised-Infantry Divisions.

Well if I'm ever in a war with one of these "verterans" I'll sleep well at night knowing my bombing efforts will be much more efficient. :)

It's sad, people don't know just how much of a logistical system you need to feed and supply THAT many troops. I'll be damned if a fleet or army ever actually runs out of ammo or food on NS.

Would you mind if I bring in a mercenary(s) into this. I've always wanted to do an RP with a freelance fighter sqaudron.

Now THAT is an idea. I've got Avalt Security International who are at times called in to fill in gaps where McKagan needs Special Forces! They don't have to follow any "rules" or war, and can't have any real international sanctions.

It's sad, people don't know just how much of a logistical system you need to feed and supply THAT many troops. I'll be damned if a fleet or army ever actually runs out of ammo or food on NS.

EXACTLY. I've "officially" got a 15 million man fighting force. Do you think I could move all of those troops to your backyard? I like how these super-massive-mega-awesome Battle Fleets go around the world, from country to country, expelling tons upon tons of ammunition, but NEVER run out.

I was thinking of working for the Mafia, they would loan my pilots out to the warring factions for cash, which the pilots and the Mafia would split.

EXACTLY. I've "officially" got a 15 million man fighting force. Do you think I could move all of those troops to your backyard? I like how these super-massive-mega-awesome Battle Fleets go around the world, from country to country, expelling tons upon tons of ammunition, but NEVER run out.

I love Novacom. Mobile suits, flying dragons, it never fucking ends...

Anyhow, we're hijacking Leafy's thread a bit, let's get back on topic a bit.

It is called creativity, something which seems to be extremly lacking when it comes to creating armies, every tom dick and harry has what is in effect a cookie cutter army, you can claim that every army is different because of designs but at the core its all the same, jet fighters, *invincible* tanks APC's and all the like. I will point out what you so aptly named Flying Dragons are exceedingly rare. Of course if your tired of RPing with me I hear AMF is after a new victim...

BTW I have an Evil Admiral and his Principality who would be very pleased to support the Facists, I only have in mind to deploy several small isolated divisions which would operate independantly, however though it would depend on what everyone else is deploying, and from the sounds of things big armies may be on the loose, it would be nice to keep this low-key and later on perhaps spark a larger conflict.

The reason everyone has a cookie cutter army is because it's the only thing that works, and mobile suits are flying dragons could never be built in MT or PMT, that's why you don't see mechs in anyone's arsenal, (except Bretton, and he RPs them with obviously limitations, which you do not) they are soley FT. And don't even get me started on the sub-dreadnoughts and SDs. You're one of the better RPers on the site, but your army and navy is pure wank, I'm afraid to say.

At any rate, I'll most likely serve the Mafia, I'll TG Leafanistan the details after I get back from soccer.

My army isn't in the slightest, the sub-dreadnoughts and most of the things you have problems with is seperate to Novacom Proper, and I have weaknessess in my designs, it's a case of discovering them as you have a habbit of claiming OOC knowledge in IC posts, do not accuse me of wank this is not a thread where that is even wanted or needed, so stop the flamebaiting, I have little patience for it as of late.

I will clarify one more time, Novacom is seperate from Admiral Kukonois completly and utterly, ICly the 2 virulently hate each other perhaps moreso than KC and Xirnium ICly hate each other.

Your concerns are becomming irrelevant anyway, Admiral Kukonois has transofmred his rebellion into a Nation, The Principality of Zeon, which if Leafistan will allow, will assisst the Facists and perhaps the Loyalists as well, perhaps with the intention of escalating things and playing the sides against each other.

Currently:

McKagan: Loyalist
Halberdgardia: Loyalist
The Lone Alliance: Loyalist
Skycapt: Loyalist
Red Tide: Loyalist

The SWC will get preference for this, but I want to limit deployment to 5 Divisions or just barely 2 Corps. (Under 100,000 ground forces) For each of you, though easily that could mean over a million men.

I'd like to get more Reformists or Facists; the Alliance is all for capitalism.

Aequetio: Loyalist
Amazonian Beasts: Loyalist

Union Canada: Reformist

Sniper Country: Sword of God

Willink: Communist

I don't want to stretch you guys out so just pick either Mafia or Loyalist.

The Black Hand of Nod: Mafia
Red Tide's Redfellas: Mafia

Frozopia: Facist

Nistolia: Independent (mind being a Facist or Reformist?)

Like I said the game will be campaigns, it will start with the collapse as people protest new policies by the Reform party, they'll be a Tiananmen Square style masscre. The revelation of where High Father has been. And then the Loyalists rise up and strike at the Reformists first.

The Siberian Campaign will probably be the first, the Marines on the coastline will try to get Frozopian troops to land while Army units strike at them and the Air Force and Navy harasses all parties.

My army isn't in the slightest, the sub-dreadnoughts and most of the things you have problems with is seperate to Novacom Proper, and I have weaknessess in my designs, it's a case of discovering them as you have a habbit of claiming OOC knowledge in IC posts, do not accuse me of wank this is not a thread where that is even wanted or needed, so stop the flamebaiting, I have little patience for it as of late.

I will clarify one more time, Novacom is seperate from Admiral Kukonois completly and utterly, ICly the 2 virulently hate each other perhaps moreso than KC and Xirnium ICly hate each other.

Your concerns are becomming irrelevant anyway, Admiral Kukonois has transofmred his rebellion into a Nation, The Principality of Zeon, which if Leafistan will allow, will assisst the Facists and perhaps the Loyalists as well, perhaps with the intention of escalating things and playing the sides against each other.

You have a sort of bad rep around here, but the Facists need the help.

Frozopia seems to be well prepared for the cold weather, so everyone dress their soldiers warmly.

Depending on Amestria's IC and OOC status independent of this RP (I have four RP’s at present), it might decide to intervene in some form or it might decide not to...

Put Amestia down as an interested observer, just in case…

Alright then...

Just as a sort of reference, I'm deploying about 2,148 troops, not counting logistics and crap like that. It'll be about 6 Battalions of regulars (1,152) (1 Incorporated Army Battalion = 2 Companies; Each Company = 3 Platoons; Each Platoon = about 2 Squads, and each squad is 12 soldiers), and 2 Dragoon (Armor) Companies (240 Tankers + 60 Tanks per Company [4 Tankers per Tank]).

If Leafy says it's alright, I may bring in more stuff if the thing gets a bit rough for the troops.

Alright then...

Just as a sort of reference, I'm deploying about 2,148 troops, not counting logistics and crap like that. It'll be about 6 Battalions of regulars (1,152) (1 Incorporated Army Battalion = 2 Companies; Each Company = 3 Platoons; Each Platoon = about 2 Squads, and each squad is 12 soldiers), and 2 Dragoon (Armor) Companies (240 Tankers + 60 Tanks per Company [4 Tankers per Tank]).

If Leafy says it's alright, I may bring in more stuff if the thing gets a bit rough for the troops.

I dont' want to exceed a million foreign troops on Leafanistani soil in a single campaign.

Shouldn't we just RP this first before declaring how many troops will be there? I know it's just trying to make a good RP, but how would the Leafanistani government find a loophole to approve of landing troops in the nation? McKagan is probably going to ask to deploy a COV Combat Team or 3 to form a garrison somewhere. We'll do details later, but I've got something in mind.

Any limitations on fleets, Leaf? I don't remember your country being landlocked, so expect a large Naval Expeditionary Force to back up a force of, oh, 25,000 troops (excluding logistics). They will, in turn, be supported by an as-yet-undetermined number of tanks and aircraft.

I don't want an RP where one person sends in 1500 ships and stops the naval function of the RP from developing. I'm probably going to do the same as Hal, here, with a few AC Carriers, lots of Frigates, and a few Destroyers.

I dont' want to exceed a million foreign troops on Leafanistani soil in a single campaign.
Alright then... That's all I'm going to bring into Leafanistan. Along with like 5,000 logistics personnel and the like.

Consider the Union of Southeast Asian Nations a backer of the Loyalists....oh and Leafanistan, you didn't answer my question on page 2.

Official Document of the Socialist Union of Nerotika
D.1A.1 Andrew N. Volkier, head president of Nerotika

We have watched this conflict for a small amount of time and already we feel the need to send in troops to aid the Socialist reformist in there effort to gain control of Leadanistan. We will be sending in the 1st Special Elite Devision, 56th Marine Devision, 57th Marine Devision, 58th Marine Devision, 501st Marine Devision in order to aid the ground conflict. In order to aid the effort tto controle the skys we will send in twelve devisions from the airforce. If our troops are accepted then specs. On the devisions will be releaced.

Ander Natz Volker, President of the SSUN, Chancellor of Nerotika Central
Naki Lok Delkoy, Chancellor of Achen
Karl Vlad Humad, Chancellor of Iet’ Tanner
Vladmir Isela Puntroy, Chancellor of Tri’ Walkaner
Oscar Luke Stale, Chancellor of North Nerotika
Nices Und Sontag, Chancellor of Tabitha
Nero Naki Neuro, Chancellor of Juno
Amed Truleth Futhka, Chancellor of Rotika

Sorry guys but I better pull out till I return from my holiday (going for week on saturday.) If this is still going on, I will join (and clear up the pieces heh heh).

*bumps up rp for Leafanistan*

Nerotika, the conflict hasn't even started yet. I refer you to the words "OOC" and "Recruitment Thread" in the title of this thread. :p

Hehehehe. :P

BTW I've decided to update my military so I can compete with other MT players. Its come to my attention that I was RPing a long way behind everyone else. That has changed.
I dont know what I will deploy, probably not as much as Red Tide.
So what NS MT stuff will you use?

Leafy, is my idea alright?

So Leafanistan, the news finally got out at last.

IIRC, you told me that High Father was the threat to the stability of Leafanistan....why is that?

I'll answer your question why. He is benevolent, but he can make a few foolhardy decisions and he is at best, unstable. Anyone mind a little superpowered dictator running around, a la Mercenaries?

OOC: Out parting on Friday, slept in. Sorry for delay.

I don't mind. Hell, that was a fun game, if not a bit short.

I don't mind. Hell, that was a fun game, if not a bit short.

Who the hell said I'm giving up, I just needed some time to recuperate from last night. Whatever factions are there will support you on the ground. Though you'll need to compensate for their lack of other things. The Army has the advantage being het largest force and with supprotive conscripts they'll be huge. But they lack air support. So on and so forth.

Their will be coniving and character based side stories.

Near Final List

Loyalist

You have the support of Leafanistani Saharistan. You'll work with High Father, the 'Head of State', and his main military support will come from Air and Space Marshall Samantha Arcturus, Admiral Sandra O'Toole of the Navy, and Captain John Alleluia of the Confederate Guard.

Nearly the entire SWC will be there:

McKagan, Halberdgardia, Red Tide (Dinoflaggelates am I rite?!), the Lone Alliance (in middle of other war, will probably support the Mafia as they try to profit), and SkyCapt

Reformist

You have the support of Leafanistani Wasser in Rovonia. You'll work with Cynthia Ives, Prime Minister of the Confederate Socialist Reform Party. Field Marshall Zheng Xiao (a Chinese joke, think about the meanings of that name) of the Confederate Army which currently stands around 2.8 million and the various conscripts he can pull in. Most likely those in Reserves and the People's Guard will support him if he calls on them.

Union Canada, Aequetio (to balance them out against the SWC), Nistolonia (but secretly trying to take over Leafanistan), Nerotika (Who posted an IC instead of an OOC)

Alliance/Facist

You have the support of Southern Leafanistan which for years has wanted more autonomy. The leaders are from Southeastern Leafanistan and Southwestern Leafanistan, and are Retired Colonel Maxwell Vienna, and John Fox respectively. They have the suport of the Marines lead by Field Marshall for Marine Units Colonel Idi Maklov. They don't necessarily want a united Facist Leafanistan, they will settle for greater autonomy in their affairs.

Amazonian Beasts (again, balance, if you have a significant issue with them you can join Reformist, but Loyalist is a bit overloaded at this moment), Frozopia (probably try to land troops wtih Marine support, then estabilsh an airbase)

Communist

You have the support of the Algeristani Strip, a tiny piece of land in mostly Halberdgardian Algeristan. The Communists have no one leader but they are a powerful grassroots movement and are backed by the Terrorist Group Red Brigade. They may eventually have support from Colonel Idi Maklov if the Communists decide to ally with the Alliance. If they do not they'll want fully autonomy and want to become Red Algeristan.

Willink

Fringe Parties

Prophet's Light (Muslim Extremists)

You have the support of remnants of Global Jihad and a few extremists in the territories of Algeristan and Saharistan. Your influence doesn't extend far.

Possibly Saharistan-clone

Sword of God (Christian Extremists)

The most prevalent extremist movement, they have a strong backing in Rovonia and in Leafanistan.

Sniper Country (As the Sword of God), with Juumanistra bankrolling them.

Mafia, trying to profit and just make sure they get a 'friendly government'

They are controlled by the Godfather: Cinncinatti Jones. Secretly controlled by Division 39 of the Leafanistani Office of Naval Intelligence they just want to keep on being the dark and illegitimate underground force.

The Black Hand of Nod
Red Tidean Redfellas

I'll answer your question why. He is benevolent, but he can make a few foolhardy decisions and he is at best, unstable. Anyone mind a little superpowered dictator running around, a la Mercenaries?

OOC: Out parting on Friday, slept in. Sorry for delay.

I'm playing Mercenaries RIGHT NOW.

OOC:Dinoflagelletes? Do you mean red blood cells? If so, yeah... sort of, I originally intended my nation to have a 1950s-era Chinese-like army and airforce(IE:Mostly foot infantry that attack in massive, fanatical, human waves). I changed it around being a more high-tech, mobile force while keeping the fanatical nature of my soldiers.

This is going to work out great for me because I'll already have the huge Army in the nation to use in doing various things. They'll hold the Airports with IMA help, and IMAF will move in a few regional bomber squadrons.

Who the hell said I'm giving up, I just needed some time to recuperate from last night.

Erm..ok.

Communist

You have the support of the Algeristani Strip, a tiny piece of land in mostly Halberdgardian Leafanistan.

Err...unless you ceded your land to me in some sort of drunken haze and I can't remember, I believe that should read "mostly Halberdgardian Algeristan." :p

Err...unless you ceded your land to me in some sort of drunken haze and I can't remember, I believe that should read "mostly Halberdgardian Algeristan." :p

Will you look at that, also Dinoflaggelates are a type of protist that cause the Red Tide.

I'll begin the RP with the Memorial Square Massacre. It'll be cryptic but it'll become clear at the end of hte RP.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10406685

I'm no English major but I hope the lines sound good, this thread will be for OOC questions and such until the actual fighting begins.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10406685

I'm no English major but I hope the lines sound good, this thread will be for OOC questions and such until the actual fighting begins.

The writing looks okay to me. (Thread subscribed to as well.)

If it's not too late, I'll join the Alliance/Fascist

If it's not too late, I'll join the Alliance/Fascist

Alright then.

Im going to use around 2 thousand troops to support the communist HQ/ general area, along with a few light armored vehicles, and heli support if thats ok.

Im going to use around 2 thousand troops to support the communist HQ/ general area, along with a few light armored vehicles, and heli support if thats ok.

When the Territory Campaign starts you'll need to reinforce Algeristan.

If anything you can support local terrorist elements as the big wars happen between the larger factions.

When the Territory Campaign starts you'll need to reinforce Algeristan.

If anything you can support local terrorist elements as the big wars happen between the larger factions.


Ok

You may now begin your outrage at the Massacre or what should probably be called the Battle of Concord.

Good writing, Leafy. Mind if I toss in a few more tier rp'ers? Including a few from a dark past?

Good writing, Leafy. Mind if I toss in a few more tier rp'ers? Including a few from a dark past?

Elaborate por favor, I want to hear the details.

Anyone mind rating the thread high? ;)

Also, anyone mind a few outraged comments from the news footage of the Massacre?

Blue Garbage Cans anyone Leafy? The UKIN is still pissed at you for what they see as imperialist acts ICly.

As in other "MT/PMT" threads, we've seen a couple of supermanish people. So deus ex machina to save the militia.

High Father was originally Arkady Arcturus, a captain in the Soviet Confederation Motor Rifles, he was chosen for Project Sickle and was surgically altereed. His brain was irradiated in certain areas and metal was implanted in his body. He was given gene threrapy. He lay in agony for 5 months before beginning psionic training. He had improved strenght and limited telekenisis and he used that to augment his strength. His best ability was pyrokinesis and clairvoyance. HOwever, as with all the subjects, they deteriated rapidly, High Father lasted the longest. And as the Confederation collapsed he founded Leafanistan, and former Confederation scientists helped stabilize his condition and put it on a much slower deteoriation. He stayed in suspended animation for years as clever image manipulation kept him 'alive' so to speak. As he aged, he married and eventually his kids left him. Then as the National Liberation Party was ousted, the Reformists plotted against him. They gained an ally in the Army who was guarding the mansion at the time and imprisoned him and took control of Leafanistan that way. However, High Father nearly escaped before they were able to stop him. They kept him on tranquilizers and beat him to keep him weak. he was in this state as a combination of lies and 'foreign business' kept his children away.

His children were told he had gone into 'extended meditation' and was not to be disturbed.

The Army had betrayed him, the Reform Party had betrayed him, and everyone else didn't have a clue as the governmetn spun a web of lies and entered wars to keep everyone's attention elsewhere.

When the army came up, adn saw him, they were originally terrified but followed orders. The schism between those whosupported the Parliament and those who supported High Father had been growing for some time, this is just the logical conclusion

Last post for tonigth. I have an interview with Harvard tomorrow.

Also McKagan,t he riot hasn't ended yet.

Blue Garbage Cans anyone Leafy? The UKIN is still pissed at you for what they see as imperialist acts ICly.

Oh, God, not BGC... *slaps forehead*

That was a total disaster.

Last post for tonight. I have an interview with Harvard tomorrow.

Good luck!

Oh, God, not BGC... *slaps forehead*

That was a total disaster.



Good luck!

What the hell are you talkign about? BGC is gone isn't he?

Thank you.

Last post for tonigth. I have an interview with Harvard tomorrow.


What are you going to study???

What are you going to study???

I'll think about that after they let me in.

Also, want to join the Facists, you like that don't you?

What the hell are you talkign about? BGC is gone isn't he?

Thank you.

Yes, he's gone; I was simply saying that the "run-in" you and McKagan and I had with him was a major pain in the ass.

And you're welcome. :p

Hal, why not give a response on the Kriegzimmer thread?

True, BGC is gone, but the people that supported him in the counter-dogpile aren't. Perhaps Isselmere shall capitalize on this and send his fleets to back the reformists, or TSS....

If it's okay, I would like to pledge my one starship to the cause of the High Father. When the Nickotopolean Shipyards finish it that is.

Note to the members of the Sword of God, am willing to support in activities ion support of the Loyalists.

We are MT/PMT. Unless the starship is just a Mir with 2 Tungsten Needles on it, it won't be accepted.

I could throw in a Few Units of Capitol Police...

I'm harvesting People to Restart the CP Birthing Programme, the CP i send will be the first batch, Im not really gunner support anyone, as I'm only here for a purpose, but i might throw my lot in with the Communists

I could throw in a Few Units of Capitol Police...

I'm harvesting People to Restart the CP Birthing Programme, the CP i send will be the first batch, Im not really gunner support anyone, as I'm only here for a purpose, but i might throw my lot in with the Communists

The Communists might be screwed since they are nearly completely surrounded by Halberdgardian forces. The Facists and Reformists stand a better chance. Far too many loyalists at this piont.

The Communists might be screwed since they are nearly completely surrounded by Halberdgardian forces. The Facists and Reformists stand a better chance. Far too many loyalists at this piont.

Hmmm, Well the KC isn't facist, its a Blend of Communism and Facism, Could I join in with my Own agenda, Capitalising on the Events, it will add to the Sinister Rebirth, more Capitol Police sightings across the Globe?

OOC: Kraven, knowing Neo, he has a great suspicion that the High Command (he doesn't know the High Command's leader is a power-crazy computer) is still around, what does Father plan for Southeast Asia and Prime Minister Neo?

OOC: Kraven, knowing Neo, he has a great suspicion that the High Command (he doesn't know the High Command's leader is a power-crazy computer) is still around, what does Father plan for Southeast Asia and Prime Minister Neo?

OOC: You'll See... ;)

So, am I up on your "EXTERMINATE" list Kraven? Why is that, other than the fact both of us hate each other? Why not go after Xirnium?

EDIT: Leafy, TG.

So, am I up on your "EXTERMINATE" list Kraven? Why is that, other than the fact both of us hate each other? Why not go after Xirnium?

EDIT: Leafy, TG.

OOC: Time will tell.... Sooner or later.... Time Will Tell...

Then I will have my Battalions land in an uninhabited area, and make sure that the ship remains cloaked, and does not participate as more than a comm station to Fleet High Command

My Marines are at a similar PMT level, and there are no super high tech weapons in their arsenal, just XM8's and Hell-Fire Machine Guns.

Unless I can blow the ship out of the sky and you somehow explain how you were able to afford all these nice things, I can't accept them.

I'll have a map of this part of Leafanistan soon, expect it to be winter, so yeah, its Stalingrad 2006.

Yes or No about my human harvesting operation?

Yes or No about my human harvesting operation?

Yes, right after I get hte map.

Yes, right after I get hte map.

Sweet, thanks

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/7941/nleafanistan2ji.jpg

We'll be focusing on that, Concord is far inland and Port Stevens isn't fully frozen over yet and the local naval base is a good HQ. The army is reinforcing from Berkut and the Confederate Guard is pushing down from Roma. The Navy and Air Force are bombarding Zedison as the Army raids Mafia warehouses for aircraft to hold them off.

Leafy, put me under Mafia, I've TGed you the details of my plan.

The Communists might be screwed since they are nearly completely surrounded by Halberdgardian forces. The Facists and Reformists stand a better chance. Far too many loyalists at this piont.

Ooh, yay! Total annihilation! :p

Leaf, will High Father be pissed if we have to all but wipe out the Algeristani Strip in order to put the Communists down?

Ooh, yay! Total annihilation! :p

Leaf, will High Father be pissed if we have to all but wipe out the Algeristani Strip in order to put the Communists down?

:( Maybe just eh communist guerillas, but wiping it out? Elaborate.]

Also tehre is the question of what to do with the territories. I'm thinking Fluid time and a seperate thread to avoid confusion.

Im going to launch an attack on Xian Port, if thats ok, its going to be special Operations however and I will try to keep my involvement down to a minium, I don't want to get found out...

Im going to launch an attack on Xian Port, if thats ok, its going to be special Operations however and I will try to keep my involvement down to a minium, I don't want to get found out...

What do you plan to do with Xi'an port?

There is also a Xian Port in the South so there is a difference between Xi'an and Xian.

I'd rather keep my plans secret to only you, Leafy, you've got another TG.

Xi'an The Port in the North, Sweep in, Remove all Civilians, Move out leaving Deserted town, Hit the Communications, and in effect remove it from the Map.

Xi'an The Port in the North, Sweep in, Remove all Civilians, Move out leaving Deserted town, Hit the Communications, and in effect remove it from the Map.

I like it, in the chaos no one notices that little bumpkin town in the north. Expect freezing cold.

Quote:
Originally Posted by The American Privateer
Huge spaceships 'n shit.

Get back to the OOC, those transports haven't done shit until I iron this out with you in the OOC.

If you are going to ask me to return to the OOC, please do so in a polite manner. by hitting the quote button and misquoting me, you are preforming Libel. next time you decide to do this i will report you for Libel. This is not a warning, it's a PROMISE.

"Big Ships n' Shit"
you quoted me as saying that when it never happened

THAT IS LIBEL!

Meanie, now he isn't accepting my telegrams.

Internet is serious business, am i rite guys? :rolleyes:

I like it, in the chaos no one notices that little bumpkin town in the north. Expect freezing cold.

Just how I like it...

(Kraven spends 10 months under 4 feet of snow and its seas are Icelocked)

"Huge spaceships 'n shit."

THAT IS LIBEL UNDER ANY DEFINITION, I NEVER STATED THAT. I DO NOT STAND LIBEL AT ANY TIME. DIDN"T YOUR HIGHSCHOOL JOURNALISM TEACHER TELL YOU ANYTHIN!!!!!!

Main Entry: li·bel
Pronunciation: 'lI-b&l
Function: noun
Etymology: Anglo-French, from Latin libellus, diminutive of liber book
1 : COMPLAINT 1 —used esp. in admiralty and divorce cases
2 a : a defamatory statement or representation esp. in the form of written or printed words; specifically : a false published statement that injures an individual's reputation (as in business) or otherwise exposes him or her to public contempt b : the publication of such a libel c : the crime or tort of publishing a libel

:mad:

Pretty much a Final List

Loyalists

SWC: McKagan, Halberdgardia, Red Tide, the Lone Alliance and SkyCapt

Reformists

Union Canada, Aequetio, Nerotika

Facists/Alliance

Amazonian Beasts, Frozopia, Estovakia

Communist

Willink

Prophet's Light

New-Saharistan???

Sword of God

Sniper Country (As the Sword of God)

Mafia

The Black Hand of Nod, Red Tidean Redfellas, Velkya

Independents

'The Kraven Corporation' (DUN DUN DUNNNN!)
Nistolonia

Unknown but hanging out

Southeastasia
Kravania
The American Privateer :rolleyes:

:( Maybe just eh communist guerillas, but wiping it out? Elaborate.]

Well, I'm only asking because it'll determine whether we level the Strip with naval bombardments and B-7s, or go in with a costly, but more surgical, urban combat scenario. (Guess which one we'd rather do. :p)

"Huge spaceships 'n shit."

THAT IS LIBEL UNDER ANY DEFINITION, I NEVER STATED THAT. I DO NOT STAND LIBEL AT ANY TIME. DIDN"T YOUR HIGHSCHOOL JOURNALISM TEACHER TELL YOU ANYTHIN!!!!!!

Main Entry: li·bel
Pronunciation: 'lI-b&l
Function: noun
Etymology: Anglo-French, from Latin libellus, diminutive of liber book
1 : COMPLAINT 1 —used esp. in admiralty and divorce cases
2 a : a defamatory statement or representation esp. in the form of written or printed words; specifically : a false published statement that injures an individual's reputation (as in business) or otherwise exposes him or her to public contempt b : the publication of such a libel c : the crime or tort of publishing a libel

:mad:

Libel is when I lie, I didn't lie. You posted some weird shit about spaceships after I denied your request to use FT in my threads. Please leave, and I'll delete the posts referencing you if you care so much.

Well, I'm only asking because it'll determine whether we level the Strip with naval bombardments and B-7s, or go in with a costly, but more surgical, urban combat scenario. (Guess which one we'd rather do. :p)

Urban Combat, unless Willink really reinforces.

This could be really good, can't wait to see this..

This could be really good, can't wait to see this..

You want a part? Reformists aren't getting much in the way of help. And the Facists aren't getting help either.

You lied when you published a false quote by me in which you claim i said "Huge Ships n' Shit." When you published it, you instantly became subject to a Libel lawsuit. It aint my fault you are a criminal. Be glad i don't press charges.

I'm inwardly a Kraven Slave State, so if I was supporting anyone I'd be with him, and I doubt he needs my help.

Thanks for the offer though. :)

You lied when you published a false quote by me in which you claim i said "Huge Ships n' Shit." When you published it, you instantly became subject to a Libel lawsuit. It aint my fault you are a criminal. Be glad i don't press charges.

You're kidding me. You are this stupid and petty to do this over an internet role-play? First off, you did post something about some Nickolopian spaceships and landing them. Relative to MT/PMT the spaceships he sells are tremendous, earning the huge spaceships moniker. The 'n Shit referes to the battalions you landed. Which I didn't approve. So overall the reference to 'Huge spaceships 'n Shit' is true, refereing to your orbiting of a large FT ship over the planet and the landing of troops completely undetected by my RADAR thanks to cloaking which is FT. Please leave before I report you for trying to derail my thread. I'm tryin gto have an RP here.

I'm inwardly a Kraven Slave State, so if I was supporting anyone I'd be with him, and I doubt he needs my help.

Thanks for the offer though. :)

Have fun.

*sniff... Sniff* Aww man your the best, I've never had DUN sound effects after my name has been mentioned before... *Sniff Sniff* Im sorry... I. I've got something in my eye....

*sniff... Sniff* Aww man your the best, I've never had DUN sound effects after my name has been mentioned before... *Sniff Sniff* Im sorry... I. I've got something in my eye....

I felt it was appropriate. You'll meet light resistance from the CDI garrison there, but they are easily repelled. Chase everyone out down the autobahn and tuck in as a snowstorm rolls in.

My opener has been posted. I want the Mafia to contact the pilots via telephone and present them with an offer once they have reached Ft. Dog.

Urban Combat, unless Willink really reinforces.

Actually, I'd rather level the whole Strip, but it'd make more tactical sense to try the surgical approach first. So we'll be stocking up on urban combat vehicles. :p

However, if the rebels prove to be particularly recalcitrant, we'll be blowing the shit out of them from the water, and dropping hypersonic Rods-of-God on them...

Actually, I'd rather level the whole Strip, but it'd make more tactical sense to try the surgical approach first. So we'll be stocking up on urban combat vehicles. :p

Civilians my friend, they'll be pissed off. And the Leafanistani Navy is on full alert adn just itching to down an enemy aircraft.

Actually, I'd rather level the whole Strip, but it'd make more tactical sense to try the surgical approach first. So we'll be stocking up on urban combat vehicles. :p

I have a MBT that was originally designed for urban combat against IFV's, APC's, Scout Cars, and possibly other MBT's.

Leafy, TG.

I have a MBT that was originally designed for urban combat against IFV's, APC's, Scout Cars, and possibly other MBT's.

I usually use the thin and light AVT-72U for that. Its 105mm Gun and 30mm autocannon is perfectly adequate. Those are pushing up with the 3rd Army Xiao is sending.

I usually use the thin and light AVT-72U for that. Its 105mm Gun and 30mm autocannon is perfectly adequate. Those are pushing up with the 3rd Army Xiao is sending.

"Thin and light?"

If that's all the 3rd Army has, I'll just land Marines with my Macabee tanks now. :p

Nah, the Harris I use for Urban Combat has a 120mm Cannon so the turret turns alot faster. It's still a tank (not a light one, either) so it has heavy enough armor to survive 30mm and probably a few main gun hits, and a big enough cannon to blow the fuck out of anything else.

I'm going to move assets in in just a second.

Question: Does this 3rd Army have any anti-aircraft assets or aircraft of its own?

Question: Does this 3rd Army have any anti-aircraft assets or aircraft of its own?

They are sporting an Anti-Air Division to keep their Airforce off their backs, they have Red Tidean made anti-aircraft equipment along with Generic Soviet stuff to keep the planes away.

Where abouts should my Attack on the Port be posted?

Where abouts should my Attack on the Port be posted?

The Memorial Square Massacre thread, then it'll shift to the Siberian Campaign tHread.

The Memorial Square Massacre thread, then it'll shift to the Siberian Campaign tHread.

Alrighty, Ill start working on a Post

Ho. Crap.

Can anyone update me?...


I feel lost... Lost... Totally lost. Totally and completely lost. Uberly lost. So uberly lost, I don't know which way the bathroom is.

They are sporting an Anti-Air Division to keep their Airforce off their backs, they have Red Tidean made anti-aircraft equipment along with Generic Soviet stuff to keep the planes away.

Ok then, I'll have a mobile UCAV Factory join my fleet sometime.

I love generic planes cheap enough to throw at enemy AA defenses! :p

Ok then, I'll have a mobile UCAV Factory join my fleet sometime.

I love generic planes cheap enough to throw at enemy AA defenses! :p

Hope these things can stand the brutal Leafanistani Winter. AT least Frozopia is prepared.

Can anyone update me?...

Just read the Memorial Square Massacre thread the tl;dr version is that it started, High Father is leading the defense of Concord and the 3rd ARmy is coming to crush him.

Well the 17th Marine Division was deployed to Torontia for a while before being rotated out. The UCAV's will probably see MORE action during snowstorms than humans, but I don't know. In the meantime, lets get ready to see a fleet sent to the bottom. :p

Post is up... Just setting the scene...

Ok.. High Father, he's leading the loyalists, right? And this takes place during winter, I assume?

Well the 17th Marine Division was deployed to Torontia for a while before being rotated out. The UCAV's will probably see MORE action during snowstorms than humans, but I don't know. In the meantime, lets get ready to see a fleet sent to the bottom. :p

Get ready to meet the ice and the little to no visibility even under infrared due to the extreme snow.

Ok.. High Father, he's leading the loyalists, right? And this takes place during winter, I assume?

Yeah.

Get ready to meet the ice and the little to no visibility even under infrared due to the extreme snow.


Is that really an issue to a plane flying at 50,000 feet? I can see how it would be an issue to the people trying to FIND the targets, which would mean satellite tracking wouldn't be very useful or anything, but people on the ground could still laser designate things. Also, it works the same. What kind of AA system could see through a massive ice storm to shoot at something flying at 50,000 feet?

Is that really an issue to a plane flying at 50,000 feet? I can see how it would be an issue to the people trying to FIND the targets, which would mean satellite tracking wouldn't be very useful or anything, but people on the ground could still laser designate things. Also, it works the same. What kind of AA system could see through a massive ice storm to shoot at something flying at 50,000 feet?

The LASER designator would be scattered far too hard by the snow and it would be a huge red line back to the designator, unless you are using non-visible spectrum. The missiles would be unable to get a reading until they were below the cloud cover at around 1000-1200 feet. I'm saying that airstrikes would be limited to high altitude bombardment via radio designation. The old fashioned way, just call out coordinates and a bomber above will drop the bombs.

the region known as regional defense network hq is happy to provide help...

I'm getting my ambassador out of Concord, then I'll decide who to back....the Loyalists lead by a benevolent dictator, or the CSRP, whom are commited to democracy, or other? So hard to chose between HF and CSRP....

OOC: Perhaps we need a Siege of Concord thread, this is no longer about he Memorial Square Massacre. I should set one up with a city map

Also, how are the genetically modified supersoldiers getting into Leafanistan?

mine?
They're not supersoldiers. Really. For most purposes, its really only of value in non-war RPs. In war it really doesnt make a difference until you get down to squad combat, and even then its not much.

They're flying in by Viper VTOL. 6 Vipers.

mine?
They're not supersoldiers. Really. For most purposes, its really only of value in non-war RPs. In war it really doesnt make a difference until you get down to squad combat, and even then its not much.

They're flying in by Viper VTOL. 6 Vipers.

Will you be telling Leafanistani forces in advance and wait for approval or is this a insertion into hostile territory? If it is, prepare to face Red Tidean built anti-aircraft, soem of the best in the world.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10420621#post10420621

Moved to seige of concord thread.

The 3rd Army is 2-3 days away, 2 days away from Artillery Range, 3 days away from actually entering the city via that brown line that ist he main road.

My reinforcements are about 5-6 days away with Red Tidean forces.

Their main objective will be the Air Defense batteries. They lack the technology Red Tide and the Coastal Artillery has. They can use that to secure the city against further Air Force strikes.

Then they will symbolically retake Memorial Square and then move to recapture the Parliament buildign. Currently HIgh Father is stationed within the Parliament building to help plan.

Will you be telling Leafanistani forces in advance and wait for approval or is this a insertion into hostile territory? If it is, prepare to face Red Tidean built anti-aircraft, soem of the best in the world.


They dropped their cargo about 3 miles off shore. The Nistolonians have small demi-cargo subs (about 2 meters long) to transport their weapons, etc. They're all wearing Nistolonian shadowsuits with breathmasks, so they'll have to come up to the surface every once in a while to get more air.

They dropped their cargo about 3 miles off shore. The Nistolonians have small demi-cargo subs (about 2 meters long) to transport their weapons, etc. They're all wearing Nistolonian shadowsuits with breathmasks, so they'll have to come up to the surface every once in a while to get more air.

They'll most likely not run into any major problems until they come onto shore and the water starts freezing, tehy are traveling in half-frozen water. Most liekly by shore they will have to punch out of the ice.

Leaf, I'd like to point out that my planes are going to be a real bitch to see and detect, and almost impossible to engage given that they're not even over the nation. But do you want me to copy/paste that RP into the new thread?

Leaf, I'd like to point out that my planes are going to be a real bitch to see and detect, and almost impossible to engage given that they're not even over the nation. But do you want me to copy/paste that RP into the new thread?

Where are you going with those?

Thats fine. They'll surface before that, blow the rafts, and walk on the ice as soon as it is thick enough.

Where are you going with those?

What do you mean where are they going?

They attacked that rogue fleet you posted about. They fly in, turn around, and go back to Libertad. They never have to cross Leafanistan.

What do you mean where are they going?

They attacked that rogue fleet you posted about. They fly in, turn around, and go back to Libertad. They never have to cross Leafanistan.

Right, sorry. Southeastasia, you are wanted int he Seige of Concord, your man is lonely.

Leaf, do you think I can land my division and get it to Concord before the 3rd Army gets there? If I won't be able to get the full force there I'll send in the Special Forces of the Division to go down the Autobahn and fuck things up for the advance.

Leaf, do you think I can land my division and get it to Concord before the 3rd Army gets there? If I won't be able to get the full force there I'll send in the Special Forces of the Division to go down the Autobahn and fuck things up for the advance.

The snowstorm makes airdrops extremely hazardous, the Air Force is mostly grounded in those 80 mph crosswinds and above cloud cover they have little to no idea what is going on on the ground.

The snowstorm makes airdrops extremely hazardous, the Air Force is mostly grounded in those 80 mph crosswinds and above cloud cover they have little to no idea what is going on on the ground.

I'm not doing an airdrop. I've got that massive (well, actually it's a small tactical unit) of Marines off the coast. They're going to do an amphibious landing somewhere and head there. If you don't think the main force would be able to get there in time, i'll send the MISA's ahead to start flanking and the like. They're my frontline, commando Special Forces. They'd be attacking supply lines and the line. You know their form of transportation? I came up with this during Frozopia. Take those Naval SEAL sand buggy's, box them in, add a heater and uparmor the turret and BOOM... SNOW CART!

Oh hell... i'm going to have one of those lose control and fly through the ice.

Where do you think I could land my tanks and heavy things at? I'm going to put the Commando's in over the ice, but I don't think that would work well with a 50 ton tank.

I'm not doing an airdrop. I've got that massive (well, actually it's a small tactical unit) of Marines off the coast. They're going to do an amphibious landing somewhere and head there. If you don't think the main force would be able to get there in time, i'll send the MISA's ahead to start flanking and the like. They're my frontline, commando Special Forces. They'd be attacking supply lines and the line. You know their form of transportation? I came up with this during Frozopia. Take those Naval SEAL sand buggy's, box them in, add a heater and uparmor the turret and BOOM... SNOW CART!

Oh hell... i'm going to have one of those lose control and fly through the ice.

Where do you think I could land my tanks and heavy things at? I'm going to put the Commando's in over the ice, but I don't think that would work well with a 50 ton tank.

Land at Port Stevens wtih Red Tide and move with my 14th Confederate Guard and 20th-30th People's Guard, this amounts to the 3rd Army. I'm pouring 1 million men into the defense of Concord, holding the capital is ag reat psychological victory.

Leafy, no offense intended, but it is a complete godmode to control another player's characters. But I'll let you off the hook this time, just don't do it again.

...hmm i kinda wish i watched threads more often cause this one has added many more pages sence my post...like alot more. anyway whats going on so far?

Land at Port Stevens wtih Red Tide and move with my 14th Confederate Guard and 20th-30th People's Guard, this amounts to the 3rd Army. I'm pouring 1 million men into the defense of Concord, holding the capital is ag reat psychological victory.

Got it. It'll still take a while for the Marines to get to Concord (or to any viable fighting position) so i'll send my MISA's ahead to blow stuff up. Could we arrange a Special Forces aspect to this RP where a group of my commando's attack a vital supply depot or something? I won't have any air support at all (since no one really can, at least and know what they're hitting), it'll just be between 14 and 20 MISA's sneaking through the flank and blowing some stuff up. We could use that to stall the offensive and give the Loyalists a chance to counter attack.

So, how long do you plan the civil war to last Leafy? Is it with a fixed end? And McKagan, my PM is going to announce, once he finds out that my delegate was attacked and is missing, he is going to declare Ives an illegitimate ruler - will your President back him on this? What should I do, cos' I ain't sure: declare war and sic my soon to be used Z-34 Bonham Main Battle Tanks from Sarzonia on the CSRP forces or do covert assassination?

As it stands McKagan is at a de'facto state of war with Ives; i've just not gotten the chance to RP the Cavalt speech that will be coming because of that. McKagan gave everyone 24 hours to stop fighting, they didn't, so McKagan layed a Smackdown.

So, what will be Cavalt's reaction to several hundreds of Z-34 Bonham MBTs rolling down into Leafanistan, backed by other Southeast Asian forces, engaging several hundred CSRP Leafanistani AVT-90 MBTs? What will she think of Neo if he chooses that decision?

Who will these MBT's be attacking?

The CSRP: Confederate Socialist Reformist Party.

Cynthia Ives is the CSRP's Chairperson and illegitimate Prime Minister of the Glorious Confederacy of Leafanistan.

McKagan (and Cavalt)would support you, since we're supporting the loyalists and the like.

McKagan, wasn't your DoD's golden child of the military branches the air force?

McKagan, wasn't your DoD's golden child of the military branches the air force?

In a way. It started out as the navy, and then after a while realized an Air Force was just as important. It's the one that got the most recent, most large cut of funding. However, after Torontia and Frozopia the IMA and MIMC have both gotten massive upgrades. Right now we're about even: I just use IMAF in a way that makes it a very pivotol force.

MIMC? What's that?

My military focuses on quality in weaponry and training, and less on numbers.

MIMC? What's that?

McKagan Imperial Marine Corps - What i'm deploying in this case.

My military focuses on quality in weaponry and training, and less on numbers.

Same here. I have a defense budget of over 20 trillion: which is alot larger than some MUCH older nations. I use that to maintain that I will, the majority of the time, have better weapons than the guy i'm shooting. I do use my nations size as a slight advantage on just the scale that last week I had four or five different engagements going on at once but you'll never see me deploy four million troops.

But then again, if we were in the mood to use numbers to drown the enemy, we'd be more than happy to oblige.

I use numbers in a more strategic sense. Meaning I won't send in a human wave type charge; i'll just replace my losses whereas smaller nations can't.

Originally, I was planning on having my PM announce neutrality, and that he was to be friendly to Leafanistan, no matter who is the victor. But the CSRP's artillery incident is going to piss off the cabinet greatly....

Leaf, what are the specs for the 3rd Army?

How many tanks does it have? Have my APC's or scout cars? How many SOLDIERS? What about the types of tanks and APC's? What does its infantry use? RPG's and AK's or M16's; what about foreign designs? How are they deployed? Is their armor up front heading towards Concord or is it guarding the flanks?

I'm going to write a detailed advance and operation later on but I want to get various things done first.

Watch out Leafanistan, my mighty Named-After-a-Guns N' Roses-album-Class Frigates are going to lay a smackdown on your fleet! :p

Could you post on how many people survived that I can take prisoner?

I'd doubt it would be very high. It's not like these people are abandoning their ships. Their ships are being blown up by missile strikes.

McKagan, are those frigates your domestic design, or did you simply take Praetonia's ships and redesignate them?

McKagan, are those frigates your domestic design, or did you simply take Praetonia's ships and redesignate them?

Domestic design. They're not much different from Praetonia's; I think. I got rid of most of that class of ship I had after Prae closed the shipyard for a while. I needed to upgun my frigate numbers, didn't want to have multiple classes, but couldn't order his. I simply came out with my own. Mine follows my own design peremeters though. It looks like a DDX and is designed for stealth so it comes out to a very combat ready design.

I'll post my troop deployment thingy in the Siege of Concord, but later... Gosh fever sucks...

And cue a communique to Hal...

I don't know if you guys know or not, but Leaf told me he might not be around much for the next week.

In the meantime, I'm still excited about the possibility of getting to take the crew of nearly a whole naval fleet prisoner. :p

Leaf, what are the specs for the 3rd Army?

How many tanks does it have? Have my APC's or scout cars? How many SOLDIERS? What about the types of tanks and APC's? What does its infantry use? RPG's and AK's or M16's; what about foreign designs? How are they deployed? Is their armor up front heading towards Concord or is it guarding the flanks?

I'm going to write a detailed advance and operation later on but I want to get various things done first.

Rise, rise threads, I'm sorry, I've been a bit busy, the snowstorm fucked up my Harvard interview and now I have little to no time for it. And combined with an Adelphi interview coming up....yeah.

The 3rd Army is Xiao's desperate attempt to regain face after the "Fleet" failure thanks to McKagan forces, and the loss of the capital and the capture of the Parliament. Combine this with territorial revolution (which will be elaborated in another thread), Field Marshall Xiao needs to look good or else Cynthia Ives is going to have him removed and replaced.

The 3rd Army is a mixture of regular forces, and conscripts. It consists of 3 Corps.

Their main objective is to capture the Parliament, Memorial Square, and High Father while securing or destroying anything else. Their secondary objective for the 23rd Infantry is to capture the rings of MDM-4 and Leafanistani built AA defenses to help secure the city.

23rd Infantry Corps

Lt. General Valerie Ng

53rd Mechanized Division (Pulled from Reserve)
56th Anti-Aircraft Division (Pulled from Reserve)
9th Mobile Infantry Division (Pulled from Active Duty)
Conscripted: 108th & 109th People's Guard Battalion (Acting as rear guard for supply lines)

Total Strength: 61,500 Soldiers

15th Artillery Corps

Lt. General Ayesha Miko

14th Heavy Artillery Division
19th Mobile Artillery Division
Conscripted: 86th and 89th People's Guard Battalions (Supply Line)

Total Strength: 42,000 Soldiers

12th Urban Assualt Division

Lt. General Wade Jackson

3rd Air Cavalry Division
10th Air Cavalry Division
14th Mobile Infantry Division

Conscripted: 3rd People Guard Division

Total Strength: 80,000 Soldiers

Total Army Strength: 183,500 Soldiers

Will update soon with Division stats, working on other "Affairs of state".

Cynthia Ives is currently negotiating a deal with the Alliance, defeat High Father, and they get near full autonomy except in times of war.

Sorry about your schedule issues, Leaf.

Thanks for the layout of the army, that'll help me with RP'ing it once I land people. Question: Since capturing High Father is a goal for the 3rd Army, do you think he'd be willing to come back to the McKagan fleet to wait out the rest of the seige?

Sorry about your schedule issues, Leaf.

Thanks for the layout of the army, that'll help me with RP'ing it once I land people. Question: Since capturing High Father is a goal for the 3rd Army, do you think he'd be willing to come back to the McKagan fleet to wait out the rest of the seige?

High Father has 12 years of angst to take out on the 3rd Army and a personal vendetta against Xiao and Ives. He is going to be on the ground leading the defense and coordinating it.

FYI: I've got your fleet surrounded, cut off, and partially destroyed. Are you going to have them surrender or to I have to forcefully capture them? :p

FYI: I've got your fleet surrounded, cut off, and partially destroyed. Are you going to have them surrender or to I have to forcefully capture them? :p

They'll most likely scuttle the ships and surrender.

High Father has 12 years of angst to take out on the 3rd Army and a personal vendetta against Xiao and Ives. He is going to be on the ground leading the defense and coordinating it.

I thought so, but it didn't hurt to ask. At best, would he be willing to accept a MISA CAF as a bodyguard/security detail to stay with him?

They'll most likely scuttle the ships and surrender.

I was going to destroy the ships anyway. :p

Mechanized Division

225 AVT-97C (Cold Condition Optimized)
25 AVTD-97C (Tank Destroyers)
150 BMP-3s (Cold Optimized)
500 M937 SUSV
2000 GS-182 Snowmobiles
150 M1108 Universal Carriers in the LOSAT (Line of Sight Anti-Tank) Hellfire Missile System, .50 cal MG mount, 3 passengers
75 M1108 Universal Carriers in 125mm Artillery Variant
75 MI-24 Hind-E (Collq: Crocs)
75 Ka-52 Alligators
1000 5-ton Trucks with snow chains

Mobile Infantry

100 BDRM-4 Scout Cars
150 BMP-3s (Cold Optimized)
75 MI-24 Hind-E
75 Ka-52 Alligators
1500 Snowmobiles
500 LV-08 Boar Scout Cars with snow chains
150 120mm Light towed howisters
1000 5-ton trucks with snow chains

Anti-Air Division

100 Command and Control "Clam Shell Mod 4" Vehicles
100 HQ-16 "Red Grizzlies" TELARs
120 Type 95 Self-Propelled Anti-Aircraft Artillery
100 SA-13 Gopher TELARs
100 88mm Self-Propelled Anti-Aircraft Artillery
45 125mm Self-Propelled Anti-Aircraft Artillery
50 SA-15 Gauntlet TELARs
250 Towed Type 78 40mm Guns
1000 5-ton trucks with snow chains

The rest you can figure out, the People's Guard are armed with AK-104s and whatever other arms they wish to carry. Some are using their own privately purchased weapons. They are in CJ-14 and Sungri Scouts with 2.5-ton trucks and using 88mm and 120mm Mortars. A few are equipped with HN-05s, Stingers, and RPG-16s but that'll be it. They are just conscripts.

Leaf, are you going to make a post with the fleet surrendering?

Leaf, are you going to make a post with the fleet surrendering?

Went out for a haircut, and eventually a styling, I'm sorry I'm this slow, I promise to catch up soon.

No worries: I just didn't know if you were like planning on us moving on to the other thread yet. The speed of the RP doesn't actually bother me because I know that everyone here has a life outside the internet.

Or do they?! :p

Anyways, sorry for the lack of activity, but I got Pneumonia (again), so I was down for a few days, now I can get on the computer and do other things with a bit of ease. Anyways, I'll post my troops deploying or whatever... Oh, and about that, Leafy, when you get the chance, maybe we could work out where/how my guys are gonna get in to Leafanistan, via Tellygram or in the thread, whichever one's better...

Or do they?! :P

Anyways, sorry for the lack of activity, but I got Pneumonia (again), so I was down for a few days, now I can get on the computer and do other things with a bit of ease. Anyways, I'll post my troops deploying or whatever... Oh, and about that, Leafy, when you get the chance, maybe we could work out where/how my guys are gonna get in to Leafanistan, via Tellygram or in the thread, whichever one's better...

SKYCAPT?! WASSUP!

Omgz it's you!

Well, SkyCapt is still Iron Fist Consumerist, so nothing much, I guess. :p

I remember when you were a leftist democracy (which I still am, by the way) of 100 million. Damn, since when did you become all corporatist and shit?

When I got intrigued with the idea of SkyCapt being a Corporate Police-like country...

Also, I like to be random. :P

Were'nt you allied with the Kraven Corp at one point?

If so...heheh...hahahah.

At any rate, Leafy, respond to the radio call my pilots made at the airstrip.

Leaf, you're officially the first person to piss the IMN off enough for them to haul in a Zealous just to kick your ass. :p

Leaf, you're officially the first person to piss the IMN off enough for them to haul in a Zealous just to kick your ass. :p

Woulda never guessed it would be Leafy, though.

Woulda never guessed it would be Leafy, though.

Well, politically, we'll say we "kicked the rebels ass;" not Leafanistan's; because the rebels aren't (and won't be) the official Leafanistani government. :)

I look forward to entire armies of AVT-90s falling to McKagan Cougars and Southeast Asian Bonhams. :D

I look forward to entire armies of AVT-90s falling to McKagan Cougars and Southeast Asian Bonhams. :D

And I look forward to raining death upon said tanks with Tyrandisian Xeons and other myriad uber-fighters. :D

Well, had it not been for a CSRP military mistake (an artillery shell hit my embassy), my government would still be neutral, and would have been friendly to either side, no matter which faction won the war - Neo's "diplomacy over force" philosophy.

Fortunately, we're allied, but if we were enemies, your aircraft would be in heaps of scrap metal long before they could even see my forces. :sniper: ;)

And I look forward to raining death upon said tanks with Tyrandisian Xeons and other myriad uber-fighters. :D

Ah, but you see, Leafanistan has said that the weather is so terrible that precision air strikes aren't an option. That's the reason we're having a wild shooting gallery on the beach and not really hitting anything important. If precision Air Strikes were an option I would have flown GLI-76 Falcons off my carrier and destroyed the armored formations before even touching a beachhead.

It's going to be an old fashion war; one that God-Tanks will carry the weight of.

Fortunately, we're allied, but if we were enemies, your aircraft would be in heaps of scrap metal long before they could even see my forces. :sniper: ;)

I'd like to point out that in the Kravania-TLA war a McKagan Cruiser destroyed an entier Kravanian bomber wing with its escorts while it was returning to Kravania after their mission.

That's because the cruiser had stealth paint. My AA units would have taken Velkya's aircraft out by taking advantage of the poor weather and a few stealth cloaking devices, along with strategy, to turn them into burning, descending-to-the-ground, mounds of metal.

I just made a reference post in the IC thread to help keep track with everything. It reflects the naval buildups i've mentioned in various places, a switch to almost 100% Kriegzimmer products, and a few name changes. It's important to add that EVERYTHING there isn't deployed yet. Alot of it is still in Libertad; and it's bound to change a bit. That's only 2 MBT Divisions and 1 LBT Division, plus some APC's and ICV's.

Once I push ashore i'll start editing things as I rotate things in and out. I'll probably end up with a few more tank divisions and eventually I'll set up some artillery.

hey guys Im back. Too late to join? What have I missed?

OOC - TG response demanded, Frozopia!

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hey guys Im back. Too late to join? What have I missed?

Nothing, really. The most action has came in the form of IMAF decimating a Rebel Leafanistani Fleet and the IMN Capturing the sailors who survived.

Hey Leaf, any idea how many people I would have captured? I was thinking, if everyone in that AIRCRAFT CARRIER surrendered, and not alot of people were killed on the ship during the missile attack, wouldn't that be something like 5000 sailors? That's assuming it was fully manned. Also, it depends how many surrendered/survived/were on the destroyers as well. Are we going to call it something like 5-6000?

That's because the cruiser had stealth paint. My AA units would have taken Velkya's aircraft out by taking advantage of the poor weather and a few stealth cloaking devices, along with strategy, to turn them into burning, descending-to-the-ground, mounds of metal.

The Xeons (designed by Tyrandis) are extemely difficult to detect and therefore hit, so I doubt the SAMs that you are using (Kriegzimmer Praetorian models, correct?) will make much impression.

Ah, but you see, Leafanistan has said that the weather is so terrible that precision air strikes aren't an option. That's the reason we're having a wild shooting gallery on the beach and not really hitting anything important. If precision Air Strikes were an option I would have flown GLI-76 Falcons off my carrier and destroyed the armored formations before even touching a beachhead.

I really don't like to use precision weapons on armored columns, I prefer submunition launchers and the like, it's much cheaper and more effective.

Fortunately, we're allied, but if we were enemies, your aircraft would be in heaps of scrap metal long before they could even see my forces.

Technically speaking, it's not Velkyan pilots that I've sent to Zedistan, but pilots who have defected to the Leafy mafia. So shoot at them all you want. :D

I really don't like to use precision weapons on armored columns, I prefer submunition launchers and the like, it's much cheaper and more effective.

You don't get it. I've been under the impression that it's going to be a real problem for aircraft to even OPERATE in and around Leafanistan. Your planes won't be there uncontested because of my carriers; but I doubt we'll even be able to fly at all.

You don't get it. I've been under the impression that it's going to be a real problem for aircraft to even OPERATE in and around Leafanistan. Your planes won't be there uncontested because of my carriers; but I doubt we'll even be able to fly at all.

It's winter there, correct?

It's winter there, correct?

Winter, yes, but Leaf has also been posting like there's one bitch of a winter storm going on too with high winds and stuff. I'm thinking that if the planes are able to fly at all they'll have almost no targeting capabilities to strike at things on the ground. You'd have to be doing massive carpet bombings and the like to hit a single column, which is costly and highly ineffective.

I'm probably just going to DENY everyone else air superiority but not try to gain/exploit it myself.

So? Fly above the weather.

Besides, I don't care who wins the war, just that my pilots make money.

So? Fly above the weather.


That's what I said, but regardless of where you fly; your target is still on the ground. It makes targeting a real bitch.

How many pilots/planes do you have (or are going to have) in Leafanistan?

Four, at the moment. All of them are equipped with the Tyrandisian Xeon fighter aircraft, but that could change. Think of them as contract killers, highly skilled but expensive to use.

I'm also considering them being rented out to the leftists (who don't really have an airforce) as advisors of sorts to help train whatever pilots they might have on call.

Y'know, after reading earlier in the thread, I realized that there was a limit on the number of troops we could have! Odd, considering that I was the one that pushed for it. :p *goes and fixes numbers*

Would you consider having your pilots accept a contract to hunt/kill Rebel (IE, anyone who's not loyalist) Anti-Aircraft stuff?

OOC: Sure, as soon as Leafy introduces me to Cincinati Jones.

Well this mission is a while off anyway, considering how we've not even had the characters meet each other yet.

We're past page six on the first thread, and I've yet to deploy my troops... o.o *waits for reply/TG from Leaf-boy*

I never have time to do anything with you guys.... I'll get to updating a few things.

I never have time to do anything with you guys.... I'll get to updating a few things.
Just tell me where I can land/transport/teleport w/ uber-thingies my troops....


Gah, he's gone... >.>

Just tell me where I can land/transport/teleport w/ uber-thingies my troops....


Gah, he's gone... >.>

Port Stevens is the only non-frozen port in the area near Concord (I'm focusing on the Concord campaign at this moment) and McKagan and Red Tidean troops are already deploying from around there. A snowstorm restricts airdrops and airstrikes and the only way to get htere is via Autobahn.

Alright then, a fleet of transports carrying trucks and more transports are in order, correct?

*dons sailor outfit*

Alright then, a fleet of transports carrying trucks and more transports are in order, correct?

*dons sailor outfit*

Remember snow chains and to prepare for blinding conditions.

Leaf, I know and understand that the destroyers would have made it to shore alot faster than the AC carrier, but we even RP'd the capture of people off the carrier. How many people did I get?

Leaf, I know and understand that the destroyers would have made it to shore alot faster than the AC carrier, but we even RP'd the capture of people off the carrier. How many people did I get?

Isn't the carrier radioactive and nearly about to explode, you know, with radiation?

I don't think it would be an explosion. More of a meltdown, and we sank the carrier so that it would be in the fridgid waters to cool the reactor again. Nonetheless, we RP'd the capture of those people and them returning to transports while the carrier was doing its thing (it would take a while anyway, even if it managed to.) Regardless of what it does, an undetermined number of people were on the beaches and captured by McKagan forces. The forces all retreated back via a massive evacuation. A massive McKagan fleet is sailing in to attack the artillery installations.

Regardless of what happens to a radioactive carrier a pretty far way away from McKagan (NBC Protected ships), there's still a massive number of prisoners. All I want is a number from you so I know what i'm working about.

I don't think it would be an explosion. More of a meltdown, and we sank the carrier so that it would be in the fridgid waters to cool the reactor again. Nonetheless, we RP'd the capture of those people and them returning to transports while the carrier was doing its thing (it would take a while anyway, even if it managed to.) Regardless of what it does, an undetermined number of people were on the beaches and captured by McKagan forces. The forces all retreated back via a massive evacuation. A massive McKagan fleet is sailing in to attack the artillery installations.

Regardless of what happens to a radioactive carrier a pretty far way away from McKagan (NBC Protected ships), there's still a massive number of prisoners. All I want is a number from you so I know what i'm working about.

To avoid a godmod I understand, lets say 2700 total. You did do a number on those ships.

To avoid a godmod I understand, lets say 2700 total. You did do a number on those ships.

That is acceptable. Considering that the carrier was blown to fuck, i'd say alot of people on the ship died.

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Oh, damnit all again. I leave for a month and I miss everything. I'm reading thru the IC thread, anyone want to post a summary?

High Father is stuck some place with an apparently outgunned and outnumbered army, and McKagan forces are pushing to help him. Rid Tidean Mafia is helping the Leafanistani Mafia, and a bunch of guys from teh SWC along with SkyCapt are helping Far Up Daddy as well. (:p) Oh, and Kraven and apparently Nistolonia are fighting for themselves over here as well. That's all I can remember ATM.

High Father is stuck some place with an apparently outgunned and outnumbered army, and McKagan forces are pushing to help him. Rid Tidean Mafia is helping the Leafanistani Mafia, and a bunch of guys from teh SWC along with SkyCapt are helping Far Up Daddy as well. (:p) Oh, and Kraven and apparently Nistolonia are fighting for themselves over here as well. That's all I can remember ATM.

And McKagan is the silly git that decided he was going to set up a beachhead when he could have used Port Stevens. Now he is invading some town slightly south of Port Stevens.

Also McKagan, I meant telling me my missile losses instead of letting me RP it, but whatever, that rule is stretched and broken a lot.

And McKagan is the silly git that decided he was going to set up a beachhead when he could have used Port Stevens. Now he is invading some town slightly south of Port Stevens.

:p

I realized that earlier. The thing is that I don't want a major artillery base near my troops anyway so I couldn't leave it there. It also goes with the MIMC "ego problems" i've been working on.

Also McKagan, I meant telling me my missile losses instead of letting me RP it, but whatever, that rule is stretched and broken a lot.

I don't get it. If your missiles were IN THE AIR and attacking MY SHIP, don't I RP defending the attack and responding to it? If we're supposed to engage like that, wouldn't it also be a rule to RP a bullet traveling from the end of a rifle to a person? Or an artillery attack would last hours just to be in the air? I don't like that unless it's some sort of LONG RANGE ICBM strike. You're firing at a ship a short distance away: but it doesn't really matter. I'm silently laughing to myself at the thought of some Marines standing on a transport ship looking at Port Stevens but not being allowed to land there because some General wants zero enemy resistance.

I guess my investment in heavy naval artillery paid off, though...

And McKagan is the silly git that decided he was going to set up a beachhead when he could have used Port Stevens. Now he is invading some town slightly south of Port Stevens.

Also McKagan, I meant telling me my missile losses instead of letting me RP it, but whatever, that rule is stretched and broken a lot.

That's funny, I always figured that missile losses were RPed by the defender.

That's funny, I always figured that missile losses were RPed by the defender.

Same here. Once you fire a missile it's no longer your asset anymore. If you've got to do that, then why wouldn't you have to RP bullets from a rifle the same way?