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This Thread is where all SCT issues and concerns will be addresed.


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Charter:

1.To protect the soveriegnty and freedom of Eastern nations from the influence of foreign powers.

2. To Aid member nations being attacked by non-member aggressors.

3. To encourage beneficial trade between member nations through low import and export tarrifs for members.

4. To develop a strong unified Naval presence to protect member's seaborne trade from piracy and foreign interdiction. Said naval forces will also be used in carriying out point one of the charter.

5. Member states recognize copyrights made in other member states and a full extradition treaty is enforced between member states.

Current Members:
Empire of Korea (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=428713)
United South-East Asia (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10374247#post10374247)
The Republic of China (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=432834)
The Republic of Pakistan (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10702485#post10702485)
The Republic of the Phillipines (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11064952#post11064952)
The Empire of Japan (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=469453)
The Union of Burma
The United Islamic Republics (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=475845)
The Kingdom of Nepal [Provisionary]
The Buddhist Theocracy of Bhutan


To Join the SCT a nation must apply and be accepted by 100% of the current membership. However the founding members (USEA and Korea) can overule the other membership if they are both in agreement.

Memebers of the Asian Exchange Rate Mecahnism:
USEA
Pakistan
China
Korea
Japan
Burma
UIR
Nepal
Bhutan
The Phillipines


Asian Space Agency:

The Asian Space Agency or ASA is an organization supported by SCT nations that is dedicated to expanding human knowledge of space.
It has accomplished many missions in earth orbit and has Facilities dotted all over Asia.

ASA Facilties:
Hat Yai Asian Space Centre (Thailand, Hat Yai) [HYASC]
Gyade Auxillary Launch Site (Tibet, Nagchu) [GALS]
Admiral Yi Memorial Training Centre (Korea, Pyongyang) [AYMTC]
Central Asian Space Research Institute (China, Hong Kong) [CASRI]
Satellite Ground Control Station (Japan, Yokohama) [SGCS]
Gobi Rocket Test Range (Mongolia, Dalandzagad) [GRTR]


A large interlinked space tracking network covers the whole of east Asia allowing missions to be tracked with ease. This network is headquatered and controlled from the Ontake Space Tracking Centre near Nagano, Japan.

Space tracking Stations:
Phu Bia Space Telemetry Station (Phu Bia) [PBSTS]
Lhasa Space Telemetry Station (Lhasa) [LSTS]
Nan Chang Space Telemetry Station (Nan Chang) [NCSTS]
Helongjiang Space Telemetry Station (Harbin) [HSTS]
Kumch'on Space Telemetry Station (Taegu) [KSTS]
Madhya Space Telemetry Station (Jalapur) [MSTS]
Kerala Space Telemetry Station (Cochin) [KeSTS]
Panay Space Telemetry Station (Lloila City) [PSTS]
Ontake Space Tracking Centre (Nagano) [OSTC]

Japan quietly lets the Empire of Korea and USEA know that it has heard of rumors that China wishes entry into this alliance and that informs them that Japan would not take to nicely if China was accepted.

Communication to Korea and USEA
From: Sovereign Republic of China

Greetings, friends.

We are interested in cementing the bonds of Chin-Korean and Chin-USEA relations, as well as build more solidarity between our two peoples. Would you be interested in such an endeavour?

We need to stand strong aganist those who seek to exploit us or pull our strings as a puppetmaster or blackmailer does. We must preserve the integrity of our people, our rich culture, and our proud traditions aganist those who seek to impose theirs upon ours.

We have always sought to lend assistance to the Korean people, and we appreciate the excellent Korean instructors and doctors that you have sent to us in the past several years. You have the gratitude of the Chinese people.

I look forward to a brighter future together.

Thank you and go in peace.
Prime Minister Song Jiaoren

OOC: Hey New Dornalia, ive got two designs for our joint cruiser project.
I think we should use the designs for the japanese Cruiser Mogami class and the German Heavy Cruiser P Project

Japan quietly lets the Empire of Korea and USEA know that it has heard of rumors that China wishes entry into this alliance and that informs them that Japan would not take to nicely if China was accepted.

The USEA in turn informs Japan that the SCT will not bow to imperialist threats from Japan and that China will be admitted if it applies for entry.

Communication to Korea and USEA
From: Sovereign Republic of China

Greetings, friends.

We are interested in cementing the bonds of Chin-Korean and Chin-USEA relations, as well as build more solidarity between our two peoples. Would you be interested in such an endeavour?

We need to stand strong aganist those who seek to exploit us or pull our strings as a puppetmaster or blackmailer does. We must preserve the integrity of our people, our rich culture, and our proud traditions aganist those who seek to impose theirs upon ours.

We have always sought to lend assistance to the Korean people, and we appreciate the excellent Korean instructors and doctors that you have sent to us in the past several years. You have the gratitude of the Chinese people.

I look forward to a brighter future together.

Thank you and go in peace.
Prime Minister Song Jiaoren

The USEA thanks China for its soldiarity and agrees that imperialism by foreign powers must be stopped. The USEA also invites China to join the SCT if Korea agrees.

Sincerely,

Minister of Foreign affairs
Thi Yen

SIC:
The USEA's Minister of Defence Thuan Kun notes that Japanese influence in Siam is growing and suggests that in the event of anything happening that the STC support the royal family.

New Dornalia I've come up with these two designs for our joint cruiser project and GB has approved them. What do you think?

Name: Seoul Class Light Cruiser
Displacement: 9,700 tons
Length: 185 m
Beam: 18.9 m
Draft: 7.3 m
Speed: 34 knots/ 22 knots cruising
Complement: 870 officers and enlisted
Armament: 8 x 5inDP , 6 x 3.1-inch guns, 4 × 3 533 mm torpedo-tubes
Protection: sides: 68 mm, deck: 45 mm, turrets: 122 mm
Cost: 6 points


Name: Saigon Class Heavy Cruiser
Displacement: 18,600 tons
Length: 210 m
Beam: 21.8 m
Draft: 7.9 m
Speed: 32 knots/ 19 knots cruising
Complement: 1,600 officers and enlisted
Armament: 12 x 8-in guns, 4 x 4.1-in guns, 12 x 37 mm guns, 8 x 21-in torpedo tubes, 160 x mines
Protection: sides: 80 mm, deck: 60 mm, turrets: 160 mm
cost: 8 points

Both the Japanese ambassador USEA and the ambassador to Korea are informed that if any weapons shipments to China are discovered to pass through their nation via their territorial waters or by land, there would be 'permanent damage to the relations they enjoy with the Empire of Nippon.'

the United States quietly reminds the USEA that it has a mutual defense pact with the United States.

Both the Japanese ambassador USEA and the ambassador to Korea are informed that if any weapons shipments to China are discovered to pass through their nation via their territorial waters or by land, there would be 'permanent damage to the relations they enjoy with the Empire of Nippon.'

The Indochinese response is that we will not be cowed by Japanese threats and blatant imperialism. But with a word we would go to our nothern brothers aid and if we had the capacity we would manufacture weapons for them ourselves!
As of now Japan is viewed as a hostile nation and all USEA citizens are called to return from Japanese territories. What relations we ever had with Japan, we now consider not worth having.


SIC:
The USEA Armed forces have been ordered to begin mobilization and messages are sent to allies telling them this.

SIC:
The USEA Armed forces have been ordered to begin mobilization and messages are sent to allies telling them this.
Mobilization cannot be kept secret for long, and shortly after this, a fascist military coup occurs in Siam, the Thai National Army is mobilized and moved to protect Siam's borders, and all property of the USEA in Siam is nationalized.

Effectively, Indochina loses 1 production point and the Thais gain 1. And war looks imminent (the Thai military trusts in the power of Japan - we'll find out soon whether that trust is misplaced).

Mobilization cannot be kept secret for long, and shortly after this, a fascist military coup occurs in Siam, the Thai National Army is mobilized and moved to protect Siam's borders, and all property of the USEA in Siam is nationalized.

Effectively, Indochina loses 1 production point and the Thais gain 1. And war looks imminent (the Thai military trusts in the power of Japan - we'll find out soon whether that trust is misplaced).

Taking this to the NPC thread.

China is accepted into the SCT! The current SCT members have elected to allow China enternace in this time of great peril in Asia.

SIC:
The Government of China is invited by the USEA (yes thats the way it's spelt) to participate in the Inchon Joint Cruiser Programme. The IJC is a hoint design and construction programme which aims to provide unified classes of heavy ship within SCT navies.
Currently two classes have been designed and construction is ready to begin.
The classes designed so far are:

Name: Seoul Class Light Cruiser
Displacement: 9,700 tons
Length: 185 m
Beam: 18.9 m
Draft: 7.3 m
Speed: 34 knots/ 22 knots cruising
Complement: 870 officers and enlisted
Armament: 8 x 5in , 6 x 3.1-inch guns, 4 × 3 533 mm torpedo-tubes
Protection: sides: 68 mm, deck: 45 mm, turrets: 122 mm
Cost: 6 points

Name: Saigon Class Heavy Cruiser
Displacement: 18,600 tons
Length: 210 m
Beam: 21.8 m
Draft: 7.9 m
Speed: 32 knots/ 19 knots cruising
Complement: 1,600 officers and enlisted
Armament: 12 x 8-in guns, 4 x 4.1-in guns, 12 x 37 mm guns, 8 x 21-in torpedo tubes, 160 x mines
Protection: sides: 80 mm, deck: 60 mm, turrets: 160 mm
Cost: 8 points (GB says these are technically much more powerful than standered heavy cruiser and therefore cost more)

Construction was origionally only going to take place at Inchon in Korea since the USEA does not yet have the technical skills to build the ships. However if China wishes they may dedicate shipyards to the IJC Progarmme.

OOC: This just means you get the ship designs but just have to bulid my ones for me (Though I do pay for them) untill I get Tech level 6.

China is accepted into the SCT!
You do realize that this act will align Indochina and (considerably more riskily) Korea with the LTA in the looming World War, right? A lot of ordinary Indochinese and Koreans are going to protest this, as most Indochinese and Korean civilians don't want a war fought in their homes, and the LTA would support them against a Japanese, Manchurian, or Soviet invasion even without a formal alliance, simply as a matter of self-interest.

I'm not trying to influence you, just making sure you're considered all the implications.

OOC: The SCT is a purely defensive organisation and will only commit forces to drive invaders from member's lands.
Anyway as far as most people are concerned I am alreadly alligned to the LTA (I have mutual defence treaty with the USA and the UK at least) and Korea is aligned with me so nothing much changes.

China honorably and humbly thanks the USEA and Korea for allowing Chinese entry into the SCT. China shall remain an ally through heaven and hell, through thick and thin, and we shall provide support to the USEA and Korea to the best of our ability.

We look towards a bright future together, brothers united with brothers and sisters united with sisters in solidarity aganist those who wish to destroy, subjugate, or oppress our people!

OOC:Err.. Sharina this might get retconned depending on what New Dornalia says.

This is due to what Vas has said about Korea probablly getting raped by the Union or Japan in the coming war if we let China in.
Though if New doesn't want to go through with it I think we can still give you some aid and let you participate in the IJCP.

OOC: Fark it. Unless we get China (or India), then our alliance is not going to be that powerful.

To: Japanese Gov't
From: Speaker Syngman Rhee, Korea

Whatever threats you may be seeing in the SCT are entirely toys of the imagination, as it were. We wish not to endanger the Japanese people. We are merely a defensive coalition which seeks a better economic and defensive state for our members against all external threats. We respectfully ask the Japanese Government to find any proof that letting China join would be a direct and unequivocal threat to their state.

Bear in mind, we intend no threat to you whatsoever. This you have my word on.

SIC:

To: USEA Government, China Government
From: Speaker Syngman Rhee, Korea

The IJC Program is going ahead; we will budget some part of our funds for it. As for China, they are welcome to add shipyards to the project to help supplement production, unless treaties with Japan bar them from doing so.
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SIC (Well not really)-

As Rhee speaks, the KWP ministers begin complaining, calling the SCT an "entangling monster" that will endanger the Korean people. Large segments of the population also begin taking to the streets, demonstrating against it. The Emperor, who actually likes this Alliance, begins touring the nation, trying to marshal support for it among the people as Rhee tries to marshal support in Congress.

OOC:Err.. Sharina this might get retconned depending on what New Dornalia says.

This is due to what Vas has said about Korea probablly getting raped by the Union or Japan in the coming war if we let China in.
Though if New doesn't want to go through with it I think we can still give you some aid and let you participate in the IJCP.

OOC:

What does "retconned" mean? I don't remember seeing that word before, or I may have but forgot what it meant.

Besides, if China can defeat the Japanese at Shanghai, the Koreans and USEA can defeat the Japanese as well. ;)

OOC:

What does "retconned" mean? I don't remember seeing that word before, or I may have but forgot what it meant.

Besides, if China can defeat the Japanese at Shanghai, the Koreans and USEA can defeat the Japanese as well. ;)

OOC: Retconned means withdrawn and that it did not happen.

Anyway so we going ahead with this?
If we do I suggest that afterwards we do everything in our power to stop war from breaking out between the Union and the USA because if that happens it's not so much Japan that I am worried about (Our combined forces should hold their own) but the Union.


IC:
Small scale protests break out in the USEA particularly in Vientiane and Phnom Penh. The government however says that now a friendly government is in Siam, that war is unlikely to come to the shores of Indochina. Lin Yen also says that we must do waht is right and help our northern friends fend of the barbaric Impeiralists from Japan.

OOC: Retconned means withdrawn and that it did not happen.

Anyway so we going ahead with this?
If we do I suggest that afterwards we do everything in our power to stop war from breaking out between the Union and the USA because if that happens it's not so much Japan that I am worried about (Our combined forces should hold their own) but the Union.

Yeah, you guys may want to take a look at this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10255883&postcount=33) before really committing yourselves.

The Soviet ambassadors in both Seoul and Saigon will of course reaffirm the Union's "iron-clad respect for the neutrality of any sovereign state," with a slight but definitely noticeable emphasis on the word "neutrality."

In fighting in the South and North China Seas, a number of Korean and USAE merchant vessels are sunk

ooc
see War in China thread

The Japanese government would like to take the USEA up on its invitation to join the conference

The Japanese government would like to take the USEA up on its invitation to join the conference

Korea notes the Japanese request, and as one of the founding members, seconds it wholeheartedly, citing it with the words:

"Though we may have had disagreements in the past, current affairs and the effects of the Third World War dictate the need for greater pan-Asian unity for mutual defense and peaceful settlement of disputes, plus mutual economic benefit. Therefore, we also extend an invitation for the Japanese to join the SCT."

Korea notes the Japanese request, and as one of the founding members, seconds it wholeheartedly, citing it with the words:

"Though we may have had disagreements in the past, current affairs and the effects of the Third World War dictate the need for greater pan-Asian unity for mutual defense and peaceful settlement of disputes, plus mutual economic benefit. Therefore, we also extend an invitation for the Japanese to join the SCT."

China has extreme apprehension about Japan joining the SCT, considering the numerous betrayals Japan made aganist China, as well as their willingness to commit atrocities aganist the Chinese people.

Japan takes full responsibility for what it did (and already has done), and war crimes trials are still taking place to punish those responsible. Japan would also like to point out it is not in a position to betray China as it has no military, and is paying China reparations. Even if Japan did try to betray China, the other Asian nations would undoubtedly jump in against us, as they should

Japan takes full responsibility for what it did (and already has done), and war crimes trials are still taking place to punish those responsible. Japan would also like to point out it is not in a position to betray China as it has no military, and is paying China reparations. Even if Japan did try to betray China, the other Asian nations would undoubtedly jump in against us, as they should

China will take that under heavy advisement and consideration.

OOC: The new SCT chatroom is up on chatzy, TG me for the link.

OOC: Front page has been updated with the entry rules.

would a single unit of currency be beneficial?

OOC: Not yet, but later. We need to assert ourselves over ther region first.

the Republic of the Philippines is interested in discussions with the Seoul Treaty nations concerning possible membership.

ooc
remember it gained its independence in 1945

The USEA approves the Philippines membership and hopes that there will be a positive outcome.

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The USEA government reminds China that it is in the best intrests of all to avoid future devestating wars by establishing closer bonds with our neighbours.

Besides there is little they can do in their current state.

However if the Chinese govenment feels so strongly against Japanese admission, the USEA would be willing to grant them provisional membership instead until China's suspsions have been calmed.

OOC:

Check the SCT room for my opinion and decision on Japan.

well, just tell me eventually what happened

The USEA approves the Philippines membership and hopes that there will be a positive outcome.

Korea seconds the Filipino application, and also notes a single SCT Currency at this time may be unnecessary, but rather, more conventional (at least to the Koreans) measures like increased air travel and economic cooperation in heavy industrial and investment ventures may produce more permanent results.

OOC: Looked at the Chatzy SCT Room-I'm cool with a probationary period (full priveleges only after 1955 and even only if they prove themselves trustworthy). Korea already agreed to let in Japan, but Emperor Gang might insist on one anyway ICly-and so would the Korean People.

um... so I'm in but I don't have full privileges until 1955? If that's it then it's fine by me for what its worth

OOC: Looked at the Chatzy SCT Room-I'm cool with a probationary period (full priveleges only after 1955 and even only if they prove themselves trustworthy). Korea already agreed to let in Japan, but Emperor Gang might insist on one anyway ICly-and so would the Korean People.


OOC: Okay then pending India's vote Japan will be let in on a probationary period (No military only economic) untill 1955 when if it has proved itself trustworthy (very likely and not that hard) it will be given full membership.

On a side note we are going to have to figure out how the economic bonuses work.... will have to ask GB.

The Federated Asian States approve Japan being let into the SCT.

OOC: I woulda supported full membership, too, but whatever.

The F.A.S. proposes that an Asian Nuclear Committee be created, and that all member nations of the SCT pool together their combined resources to create nuclear reactors for our nations. Seeing how Asia is the most populous continent on the earth, all of our nations are going to need much more energy, and we can build Nuclear Reactors to do so.

With India's acceptance, the Empire of Japan is hereby admitted to the SCT on a probationary period of eight years, upon after wich its conduct will be reviewed and full memebership possibly granted.
Japan now has all the economic and judicial benefits of SCT membership.

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SIC:
The USEA approves the creation of an Asian Nuclear Commitee and also suggests that joint intelligence network be set up to service all memeber nations.


OOC:
Lightning star, Haneastic, Sharina; please vote on the Fillipino application.

Japan votes to allow the Phillipines. Japan will also support the Asian Nuclear Comitee in any way it can, but would suggest that nuclear weapons not be placed in Japan, seeing China's suspicion of us

We support the acceptance of the Philipines into the Seoul Conference Treaty.

China votes "Aye" in favor of Flipino membership.

Fillipino membership is granted.

so what happens with the Phillipines? does Gavelston RP it?

The F.A.S. proposes that an Asian Nuclear Committee be created, and that all member nations of the SCT pool together their combined resources to create nuclear reactors for our nations. Seeing how Asia is the most populous continent on the earth, all of our nations are going to need much more energy, and we can build Nuclear Reactors to do so.

SIC:

Korea seconds this and the idea of the joint intelligence network, and vote yes on both.

so what happens with the Phillipines? does Gavelston RP it?

Yes, whenever soomething importnat involving Fillipino attention comes up, GB or one of the delegate sub mods will Rp it.

The F.A.S. proposes that an Asian Nuclear Committee be created, and that all member nations of the SCT pool together their combined resources to create nuclear reactors for our nations. Seeing how Asia is the most populous continent on the earth, all of our nations are going to need much more energy, and we can build Nuclear Reactors to do so.

China has concerns about this.

First, peaceful nuclear technology is no problem for China. However, issues about the damage should nuclear reactors blow up, and possible radioactivity are raised.

Second, nuclear weapon technology is a big question. This issue needs to be addressed once we get to that point.

Third, an intelligence network could be useful. However, how should we implement it? A common language? A common operating protocol (call signs, codes, recruitement, etc.)? Standardization?

China has concerns about this.

First, peaceful nuclear technology is no problem for China. However, issues about the damage should nuclear reactors blow up, and possible radioactivity are raised.

Second, nuclear weapon technology is a big question. This issue needs to be addressed once we get to that point.

Third, an intelligence network could be useful. However, how should we implement it? A common language? A common operating protocol (call signs, codes, recruitement, etc.)? Standardization?

There is no precedent for nuclear reactors blowing up, we are certain such fears will be assured when research into the technology is started.

An intelligence network would work best if it was a single entity under joint contol of the member nations that would work in conjuction with exsisting member nation organisations. This SCT inteeligence organisation would be funded jointly be all member nations.

A common lingua franca between all SCT nation that people are taught beside their own local language would be a very good idea.

To this extent the USEA proposes the set up of the Asian Lingual Commsion to decide which language to use and to later help implement it's teaching.

There is no precedent for nuclear reactors blowing up, we are certain such fears will be assured when research into the technology is started.

This satisfies China.

An intelligence network would work best if it was a single entity under joint contol of the member nations that would work in conjuction with exsisting member nation organisations. This SCT inteeligence organisation would be funded jointly be all member nations.

China asks how the integration of national intelligence agencies and an international SCT-level agency will take place? Will the national agenices retain their distinct branches, and contibrute some staff and equipment to the international SCT-level agency? If so, we need to establish standardization so that there won't be miscommunications or misunderstandings.

A common lingua franca between all SCT nation that people are taught beside their own local language would be a very good idea.

To this extent the USEA proposes the set up of the Asian Lingual Commsion to decide which language to use and to later help implement it's teaching.

China supports this as well, but feels that it needs to point something out. China has half-a-billion people, and teaching them an entirely new language would be somewhat difficult. The same holds true for India. Perhaps if we adopted a bi-langual language, the native language and a SCT language then perhaps this problem will be solved.

would joining the languages be possible at all? also, Japan proposes that Burma be invited to join the SCT, as it is about to be independant from Britain

The Philippines suggests English, as it is common in Burma, India, and the Philippines, and is the language of the two largest trading nations (US and UK) in the world, as well as a close neighbor (Australiasia)

would joining the languages be possible at all? also, Japan proposes that Burma be invited to join the SCT, as it is about to be independant from Britain

China points out that it will be difficult to force a new language and abandon the traditional language for over 500 million Chinese and 350 million Indians. Hence China's belief that we should adopt a bi-langual structure. The native language for each nation, let it be Mandarian Chinese, Hindu, Japanese, Korean, or so forth. Then incorporate the second language that will be spoken by all SCT members and this could be taught in schools.

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OOC:

I think pingyin Chinese would be a good candidate for SCT international language as it's pretty simplified compared to true Chinese, Korean, Japanese, etc. languages.

Japan agrees with China's proposal, and proposes starting a unified translation corps, to act with diplomats and businessmen in SCT nations. Japan also proposes that an SCT Corps be created when the language barriers have been addressed. The SCT corps would work like the unified European corps in RL. Japan also proposes joint militray exercises, but acknowledges that it has no power in military matters

The Philippines suggests English, as it is common in Burma, India, and the Philippines, and is the language of the two largest trading nations (US and UK) in the world, as well as a close neighbor (Australiasia)

Korea notes the language issue, and seconds the Chinese proposal for a bi-lingual system, consisting of native and Alliance Languages.

As for a Pan-Alliance language, Korea, after careful deliberation, suggests the use of English as well. The reasoning behind this is that with a bi-lingual system, both a native language and the official SCT Language will be spoken, thus ensuring a "win-win" cultural solution.

However, Korea does ask for protections for native languages should this policy be adopted, to ensure the integrity of native tongues.

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As for nuclear matters, Korea suggests that the Asian Nuclear Committee be given powers of inspection in all SCT nations to ensure safety and to prevent abuse of nuclear materials by alliance members.

Korea believes that a pan-SCT Joint Task Force is possible, but again, standards of language must be ironed out. Also, we must consider some form of standards as well (i.e. standard ammo calibers, standard missiles, etc.) to streamline supply.

China asks how the integration of national intelligence agencies and an international SCT-level agency will take place? Will the national agenices retain their distinct branches, and contibrute some staff and equipment to the international SCT-level agency? If so, we need to establish standardization so that there won't be miscommunications or misunderstandings.


National agencies will retain all personel and equipment and will contribute by sharing infomation with the SCT intelligence agency which would be a seperate entity that reports directly to members' heads of state.

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The USEA agrees that a Bi-lingual system would be best and thinks that either English or Pingyin chinese would be good choices for an alliance language.

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As for nuclear matters, Korea suggests that the Asian Nuclear Committee be given powers of inspection in all SCT nations to ensure safety and to prevent abuse of nuclear materials by alliance members.

Korea believes that a pan-SCT Joint Task Force is possible, but again, standards of language must be ironed out. Also, we must consider some form of standards as well (i.e. standard ammo calibers, standard missiles, etc.) to streamline supply.

The USEA agrees that such powers be awarded to the ANC.

A joint task force consisting of both naval and rapid reaction marine forces would seem ideal.
As for standerdisation a Joint Design and Logistics Bureau could be set up to coordinate the development and distribution of new military technology within member states.

The USEA agrees that such powers be awarded to the ANC.

A joint task force consisting of both naval and rapid reaction marine forces would seem ideal.


Korea agrees with these things, and seconds them.

As for standerdisation a Joint Design and Logistics Bureau could be set up to coordinate the development and distribution of new military technology within member states.

Korea does ask, what level of cooperation? Will it be able to make direct purchases from other nations and inter-alliance firms? Or will it merely be a development and standardization board, with purchases handled by the members themselves?

Japan proposes that the Joint Design and logistics bureau work together to create new designs, and streamline arms and ammunitions, and any weapons already existing not fitting in the plan be sold to other nations. Japan also asks for permission to have a small group of officers sit in on military meetings, so that when Japan recieves full membership, it will not be fully ignorant of SCT military affairs. Japan supports the proposal for the joint force be made of rapid rection forces, such as light infantry, since they will be needed first

Japan asks that the SCT vote on Burma's acceptance to the SCT

Korea does ask, what level of cooperation? Will it be able to make direct purchases from other nations and inter-alliance firms? Or will it merely be a development and standardization board, with purchases handled by the members themselves?

The Joint Design and Logistics Bureau would act as a standeradization board to national militaries and would make direct purchases for the Joint Task Force.

Japan proposes that the Joint Design and logistics bureau work together to create new designs, and streamline arms and ammunitions, and any weapons already existing not fitting in the plan be sold to other nations. Japan also asks for permission to have a small group of officers sit in on military meetings, so that when Japan recieves full membership, it will not be fully ignorant of SCT military affairs. Japan supports the proposal for the joint force be made of rapid rection forces, such as light infantry, since they will be needed first

Japan asks that the SCT vote on Burma's acceptance to the SCT

China considers Japan's proposals and makes the following questions and recommendations.

1. Joint Design and Logistics (JDL) should be allowed to research new designs, technologies, and standardize weapons and ammunition to an unified standard such as a 7 millimeter caliber bullet or the such.

2. Companies such as Chinese Dassault should be allowed to continue developing their equipment, technologies, and weapons. Then the JDL looks at the finished designs and then considers how to incorporate standardization into said weapons and designs.

3. Japanese officers should be allowed to sit in SCT sessions. Even though China is uneasy about this, it will agree to this for the greater good of all.

4. China would like to resolve all the priority issues first before addressing even more issues lest the SCT be overwhelmed in handling a lot of proposals and suggestions all at once.

Japan thanks China for letting its officers attend meetings, and agrees with the Chinese proposals

The Philippines indicates that it is fine with trade agreements, but is less certain it wants to organize or equip its military forces along central lines with the rest of the Treaty nations. It has an excellent combat record, with members of its military having served alongside US forces in Spain in the 2nd Great War, and fighting to defend its own homeland in the 3rd Great War as well as the invasions of Okinawa and Japan during the 3rd Great War (and occupation duty afterward, which is left unsaid).

As the Philippines has a defense treaty with the United States, it will organize and equip its forces along US lines and with US equipment.

ooc
don't forget Japan has a mutual defense treaty with the US as well, of
course, so does the USAE and China is also in the LTA.

IC
Burma decides to request to join the Treaty organization

The Philippines indicates that it is fine with trade agreements, but is less certain it wants to organize or equip its military forces along central lines with the rest of the Treaty nations. It has an excellent combat record, with members of its military having served alongside US forces in Spain in the 2nd Great War, and fighting to defend its own homeland in the 3rd Great War as well as the invasions of Okinawa and Japan during the 3rd Great War (and occupation duty afterward, which is left unsaid).

As the Philippines has a defense treaty with the United States, it will organize and equip its forces along US lines and with US equipment.

ooc
don't forget Japan has a mutual defense treaty with the US as well, of
course, so does the USAE and China is also in the LTA.

IC
Burma decides to request to join the Treaty organization

Korea seconds the Burmese request, and approves it.

On the issue raised by the Philippines, Korea assures the Filipinos that in matters of organizing an army, member nations may structure their armies on their own terms-what the proposal seeks is a unification of supply only. The proposed Joint Task Force would be composed of troops donated from member nations, and a pan-SCT army force, requring no change on the part of any member nation's army. Still, until then, Korea says, the proposals are just that-proposals.

We may have a diplomatic situation developing.

According to the peace treaty Japan signed in 1941, it was supposed to pay approximately half of its economic income to China as reparations for 10 years, from 1941 to 1951.

Between 1941 and 1947, Japan paid China minimal reparations. By now, Japan's economy has improved substantially, which means Japan should be paying China the proper reparations for 1948.

We believe Japan can afford the reparations in 1948, but we are willing to re-negotiate the reparations within reason.

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OOC:

Between 1941 and 1947, Japan paid China 5 points annually. By now, Japan's economy has 57 base points, which means Japan should be paying China approximately 27 points or so (roughly half of 57 base points) in reparations for 1945.

I think Japan can afford that, as Japan spent 10 points on subs and 4 points on infantry. I can see Japan building infantry, but the attack subs will kind of be pushing Japan's military restrictions. Japan's base points can be doubled to roughly 100 points under "normal" economic mode as each production center would be giving 2 points per center under "normal" mode. Japan can pay China 27 points out of its 100 points and still have plenty left over to build even more merchant marine and such.

We may have a diplomatic situation developing.

According to the peace treaty Japan signed in 1941, it was supposed to pay approximately half of its economic income to China as reparations for 10 years, from 1941 to 1951.

Between 1941 and 1947, Japan paid China minimal reparations. By now, Japan's economy has improved substantially, which means Japan should be paying China the proper reparations for 1948.

We believe Japan can afford the reparations in 1948, but we are willing to re-negotiate the reparations within reason.

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OOC:

Between 1941 and 1947, Japan paid China 5 points annually. By now, Japan's economy has 57 base points, which means Japan should be paying China approximately 27 points or so (roughly half of 57 base points) in reparations for 1945.

I think Japan can afford that, as Japan spent 10 points on subs and 4 points on infantry. I can see Japan building infantry, but the attack subs will kind of be pushing Japan's military restrictions. Japan's base points can be doubled to roughly 100 points under "normal" economic mode as each production center would be giving 2 points per center under "normal" mode. Japan can pay China 27 points out of its 100 points and still have plenty left over to build even more merchant marine and such.

Korea notes the situation, and agrees with the Chinese that Reparations should be paid in full this year by Japan. However, Korea asks whether Japan would be still in debt to China by the time 1951 rolls around.

Japan will pay for the reparations, and apologizes for the trouble that was caused

OOC: I really had no idea, GB told me reparations ended 1948. The subamrines were for defense only, Japan is allowed a maritime self defense force. I'll make the necessary changes on the economic thread

Korea notes the situation, and agrees with the Chinese that Reparations should be paid in full this year by Japan. However, Korea asks whether Japan would be still in debt to China by the time 1951 rolls around.

Japan has not paid the proper reparations for the last several years, which accumulates in what Japan owes China. However, China is open for negotiations which could possibly cut off a year or two off Japanese reparations in exchange for paying full reparations for 1949 in addition to 1948.

EDIT: Double post.

Japan will pay for the reparations, and apologizes for the trouble that was caused

OOC: I really had no idea, GB told me reparations ended 1948. The subamrines were for defense only, Japan is allowed a maritime self defense force. I'll make the necessary changes on the economic thread

China is willing to allow Japan to possess the submarines for self defense as long as Japan agrees to pay reparations in full for 1948 and 1949. If all goes well, China will decree that reparations be completed by 1950, meaning Japan doesn't have to pay reparations for 1950 and 1951.

EDIT:

All the info about the treaty and reparations can be found here.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10503319&postcount=1831

Alright, Japan's budget has been edited to reflect 54 points being payed to China, I added 4 in order to pick up a little bit of slack I created

Alright, Japan's budget has been edited to reflect 54 points being payed to China, I added 4 in order to pick up a little bit of slack I created

OOC:

No problem. This should make it pretty easy for China to re-work the treaty so that Japan stops reparations at end of 1949 (1949 being the last year to pay reparations). By 1950, Japan will be scot-free.

Besides, this will also help improve China's view of Japan, which guanatrees Japan full membership in the SCT by 1955 or even earlier.

OOC: You guys up for a little Asian Space Program in a few years?

OOC: You guys up for a little Asian Space Program in a few years?

I will be able to fund it in the 1950's as my Reconstruction will be finished by then. I only have about 38 more factories to repair then I'm good to go.

I'll have 54 points plus whatever else I build freed up

I'll have 54 points plus whatever else I build freed up

I've been thinking....

If Japan pays full reparations in 1949 as well, then I can re-work the treaty so that Japan doesn't have to pay reparations for 1950 and 1951. In addition, in light of the new Japanese generousity and willingness to make amends, I'm thinking of having China nominate Japan to have full SCT membership by 1950 instead of 1955.

Sweet! Whcih would of course free up my points to support the SCT operations

Japan will pay for the reparations, and apologizes for the trouble that was caused

OOC: I really had no idea, GB told me reparations ended 1948. The subamrines were for defense only, Japan is allowed a maritime self defense force. I'll make the necessary changes on the economic thread

The US supports Japanese efforts for a maritime, aviation and ground self defense force (no more then 10% of its budget)

I will be able to fund it in the 1950's as my Reconstruction will be finished by then. I only have about 38 more factories to repair then I'm good to go.

OOC: I'd be willing to chip in. Gives the KTI something to work for, they haven't done anything cool since the Wankel/Joseon Engine.

IC:

Korea thanks Japan and China for making the necessary compromises to settle this debate, and concurs with the Chinese that in light of recent developments, that the full admission take place earlier.

Regarding US Opinion, despite what much of the Korean population would like to see happen (no Japanese forces whatsoever), Speaker Kim Gu and the Emperor will concede to a limited (emphasis on limited) Japan Maritime, Ground, and Air Self-Defense Force, so long as it is restricted to 10% of Japan's budget and it works cooperatively with the SCT.

Japan pledges any and all military forces it creates to the SCT

OOC:

How would these sites be for an Asian Space Program's launching and/or base facilities?

Hainan Dao, China
Mindanao Island, Philippines
Either Hat Yai or Yala, USEA (RL Thailand)

OOC:

How would these sites be for an Asian Space Program's launching and/or base facilities?

Hainan Dao, China
Mindanao Island, Philippines
Either Hat Yai or Yala, USEA (RL Thailand)

ooc
experts recommend Thailand... better infrastructure, larger educated population handy, easier development etc

Japan is willing to offer an area in Japan to be a launch/base site, but woul be happy with anything.

OOC: I'm prepared to give at least 9 points to the Spcae Program, but only if it's actually going to get started now. If not, I'll just hold off

Japan is willing to offer an area in Japan to be a launch/base site, but woul be happy with anything.

OOC: I'm prepared to give at least 9 points to the Spcae Program, but only if it's actually going to get started now. If not, I'll just hold off

OOC: Well, I'd be willing to allocate ten points to space, then. Lemme edit my builds. Also, look up Hideo Itakawa-he may be useful for our Asian Space Program (being the father of Japanese rocketry and whatnot in our timeline).

OOC: Well, I'd be willing to allocate ten points to space, then. Lemme edit my builds. Also, look up Hideo Itakawa-he may be useful for our Asian Space Program (being the father of Japanese rocketry and whatnot in our timeline).

OOC:
If we are going to start a space program we need to direct our research.
For example to start off with we IRBM technology which costs 24 points.
Here is the link to GBs post about space age stuff:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9108975&postcount=3

IC:
The USEA offers Hat Yai as base for the space lauches, with the upcoming Thai Railway Project begining construction next year it would be effeciently linked with the rest of the USEA, China and Korea.

OOC: Not to be a spoil-sport, but I'm pretty sure you guys actually have to start out with MRBM, since only the US, UK, Russia, Colombia, SU, and Germany started out with it. Now, if someone researched it since 1947, then it's a different story.

Parthini']OOC: Not to be a spoil-sport, but I'm pretty sure you guys actually have to start out with MRBM, since only the US, UK, Russia, Colombia, SU, and Germany started out with it. Now, if someone researched it since 1947, then it's a different story.

I'll ask GB, doesn't really matter as I can get MRBM in 1952 on my own and if we pooled together.....

I'll ask GB, doesn't really matter as I can get MRBM in 1952 on my own and if we pooled together.....

OOC: Consider those 10 points I allocated for the program budgeted for that purpose.

OOC: Consider those 10 points I allocated for the program budgeted for that purpose.

OOC:
Together with Japna's 9 pointsthat leaves 5 points neede for the development of MRBMs to be achieved.

Japan is granted full member status, now that it's trial period has ended.

Burma has asked to join the SCT and votes need to be taken upon it's entry.

Korea seconds the Burmese entry into the SCT, and invites it to join.

OOC:
Together with Japna's 9 pointsthat leaves 5 points neede for the development of MRBMs to be achieved.

I think I already donated 12 points or so to this endeavour from my 1950 build.

I think I already donated 12 points or so to this endeavour from my 1950 build.

Yes, dont worry I'm keeping track.
At the moment we have Improved MRBMs and are starting to research IRBMs (17 points remaining)

Burma has applied to join the SCT and therefore we need to vote on it's entry.

United South East Asia votes to accept Burma into the Treaty.

we vote aye.

Burma has applied to join the SCT and therefore we need to vote on it's entry.

United South East Asia votes to accept Burma into the Treaty.

China asks the question.

Is Burma going to be an independent member or become part of the USEA? I remember the USEA was trying to get Burma to join it earlier?

Either way, China votes "Aye" in Burma's entry into the SCT.

China asks the question.

Is Burma going to be an independent member or become part of the USEA? I remember the USEA was trying to get Burma to join it earlier?

Either way, China votes "Aye" in Burma's entry into the SCT.


OOC: Nah that was Siam (Thailand), which after being effictively turned into one large supply depot and airfield during World War III as well as having it's government collapse was put under USEA mandate and then joined the USEA later as a member state.
It is the second socialist democracy in the USEA the other being Vietnam (Laos and Cambodia are constituational monarchies).

SIC:

Korea informs the members of the SCT it is building IRBMs under the name Sejong Type I. One batch of Sejongs will be put to use in future space missions.

SIC:

The USEA informs Korea and other members that launch facilities in Hat Yai should be ready by the end of the year if enough funding (4 points) is recieved from China or other member states.

OOC:

Here's another idea messa had;

Way back when, I came up with the idea of building the Kra Canal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kra_Canal). Of course, that was when I was plotting with the MEU to join the Commies, and then send a million-man army through Burma and conquer southern Thailand as well as Burma, giving me full control of the Kra Isthmus (Although the actual land that the Canal would be in would be in the southern part of the Isthmus, which I planned to give to the Islamic Republic of Southeast Asia, which was Malaysia and Indonesia, as well as the Filipino Island of Mindanao).

Anyhoo, I digress. The point is, now that we have the combined economic might of the SCT, we could build a Canal in the Kra Isthmus. Of course, there is the problem of who would get the economic boost. In my original plan, I would be in control of the Canal, so I'd split the boost with the IRSA, but since I choose to expand west rather than east, that plan is out the window.

OOC:

Here's another idea messa had;

Way back when, I came up with the idea of building the Kra Canal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kra_Canal). Of course, that was when I was plotting with the MEU to join the Commies, and then send a million-man army through Burma and conquer southern Thailand as well as Burma, giving me full control of the Kra Isthmus (Although the actual land that the Canal would be in would be in the southern part of the Isthmus, which I planned to give to the Islamic Republic of Southeast Asia, which was Malaysia and Indonesia, as well as the Filipino Island of Mindanao).

Anyhoo, I digress. The point is, now that we have the combined economic might of the SCT, we could build a Canal in the Kra Isthmus. Of course, there is the problem of who would get the economic boost. In my original plan, I would be in control of the Canal, so I'd split the boost with the IRSA, but since I choose to expand west rather than east, that plan is out the window.


Hmm.... the canal probably wouldn't be too expensive maybe 10-15 points to construct, which I could manage by myself.
However if other states wan to help pitch in I would be happy to share the proceedes.

Hmm.... the canal probably wouldn't be too expensive maybe 10-15 points to construct, which I could manage by myself.
However if other states wan to help pitch in I would be happy to share the proceedes.

ooc
probably more like 40, as the US spent 30 to build the St. Lawrence Seaway, and 24 to double the size of the Panama Canal, and both of those actually had waterways already in place.

ooc
probably more like 40, as the US spent 30 to build the St. Lawrence Seaway, and 24 to double the size of the Panama Canal, and both of those actually had waterways already in place.

OOC:

Only 40? I expected it to cost more.

A Japanese plan for a canal in 1985 would have used over twenty nuclear devices each roughly twice as large as the bomb dropped on Hiroshima. The most recent Chinese plan called for construction over ten years employing roughly 30,000 workers and costing between 20 and 25 billion American dollars.

SIC:

The USEA informs Korea and other members that launch facilities in Hat Yai should be ready by the end of the year if enough funding (4 points) is recieved from China or other member states.

OOC: You know the points I put out for "Pan-SCT SPace Program?" I put out 24 points as aid this year....consider four points from that diverted to the launch facility.

OOC: You know the points I put out for "Pan-SCT SPace Program?" I put out 24 points as aid this year....consider four points from that diverted to the launch facility.

OOC: Yes I saw your contribution and it was taken into account, most of it was allocated to rocket and missile research, but after going over my 1952 budget I've allocated more points to the Asian Space Program and so the Hat Yai site will be ready for launches in 1953.

So if we hurry and get ICBMs done (13 points to go) and then spend a further 24 points on Space program research then we might be able to get the first man in orbit.

ooc
probably more like 40, as the US spent 30 to build the St. Lawrence Seaway, and 24 to double the size of the Panama Canal, and both of those actually had waterways already in place.

OOC: Aiiii... that will take mucho co-operation indeed.
So Lightning Star I think your idea is best.

Ahem...

IC:

Communique to SCT member states:

The USEA seeing that the Mallaca straits may not always be open to Indochina and her allies, especially with the British announcement that Singapore is soon to be given independance, has decided that an artificial waterway capable of handling ocean going cargo ships could be built across the Kra Isthmus.
Such an undertaking would be huge and would require the co-operation of many Asian nations to be completed.
The USEA therefore asks if other nations of the SCT would agree to help fund constuction of the Kra Canal in return for a share of the proits.

Contributors to the Asian Space Program are informed that the launch facilty at Hat Yai is nearing completion and will be ready to begin Launches in 1953.


Edit: Okay I'll stop posting consecutive posts now. XD

OOC: Damn did it again!!... oh well.


IC:

The Enginneers working on the Asian Space program have designed a small one man capsule that is capable of carrying some one into space:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v671/lazyjim/GioDong_spacecraft_diagram.png

'Gio Dong' or 'East Wind' will be able to reach sub orbit when mated with Korean Sejong IRBMs and launched from the Hat Yai launch facility.

It is suggested by flight enginners that two or three unmanned missions with animal test subjects should be launched to see the efects before a manned launch is made.

OOC: Those I think were Sejong IRBMs (named after the guy who invented Hangul, Korea's system of writing).

IC:

Korean Technical Insitute engineers concur with the USEA proposal to use animal-based test flights.

Japan is giving 5 points to the SCT for general purpose

Japan is giving 5 points to the SCT for general purpose

Hmm... we have maxed out our points limit for everything Chemical weapons research. Do we want to do that?

Anyway Haneastic please vote on Burma acceptance into the SCT.


EDIT: Fixed now I put your points into the space program and diverted the points I would have spent on it to building Burma some shipping units.

OOC: How did the SCT get on par with the ESA on missle technology, when we were like 3 levels ahead...?

Through research under the Asian Space Program the SCT has now gained IRBM technology.

Post-wise, this is where I can cite having IRBM tech. That, and I dumped a lot of points into this program (so did the USEA), so that had to have gone somewhere....

Parthini']OOC: How did the SCT get on par with the ESA on missle technology, when we were like 3 levels ahead...?

OOC: Our economies are very strong. For instance, my economy is as large as the SU's. And Korea, China, the USEA, and Japan all have similarly powerful economies. Not to mention, we're asians, with insanely smart people.

Yeah, but you guys didn't have any technology as of '47, whereas the UK and I had V2s. We've also been dumping as many points as possible (24 a turn).

But actually, now that I think about it, you guys are doing stuff that we did 2 years ago next year....

Hmm... we have maxed out our points limit for everything Chemical weapons research. Do we want to do that?

Anyway Haneastic please vote on Burma acceptance into the SCT.


EDIT: Fixed now I put your points into the space program and diverted the points I would have spent on it to building Burma some shipping units.

I have Level 4 Bio-Chem research, and on my way to Level 5 (Research-wise)

I thought I already voted on Burma. Anyway, Japan votes yes

The Union of Burma is officialy accepted in to the SCT.
It's military is invited to join annual joint SCT military exercises.

I have Level 4 Bio-Chem research, and on my way to Level 5 (Research-wise)

I have level 3 bio-chem research :(

Also, this year marks the first year the FAS is donating points to the SCT (it's only .25 points, but meh :))

Alright it's nearly 1953 and our launch facility at Hat Yai is ready to start firing crazy idiots strapped to huge rockets into space.

We can only achieve sub orbit with the Korean Sejong IRBM, the ICBM technology is on the way but capability to lanch orbital flights will be coming in two years at the earliest.

So for our launch programme in 1953 is suggest we launch seven missions:

-First off will be three unmanned flights with sensors only.

-Next will be two flights with test animals such as chimpanzees.

-Lastly we will launch two manned missions .


This will all cost 17 points in total, so please allocate them in your build. (3 for unmanned, 4 for chimps, 10 for manned.)

Another item of importance is who the first Asian in space is going to be?

Alright it's nearly 1953 and our launch facility at Hat Yai is ready to start firing crazy idiots strapped to huge rockets into space.

We can only achieve sub orbit with the Korean Sejong IRBM, the ICBM technology is on the way but capability to lanch orbital flights will be coming in two years at the earliest.

So for our launch programme in 1953 is suggest we launch seven missions:

-First off will be three unmanned flights with sensors only.

-Next will be two flights with test animals such as chimpanzees.

-Lastly we will launch two manned missions .


This will all cost 17 points in total, so please allocate them in your build. (3 for unmanned, 4 for chimps, 10 for manned.)

Another item of importance is who the first Asian in space is going to be?

I'm tempted to place Park Chung-hee, who in this universe was a minor brigade commander during the Korean Civil War that became a war hero, as our man, but he's Army.

And for the points-done and done--later anyway.

I allocated .25 points to be spent by the SCT as a whole wherever it see's fit.

I'm tempted to place Park Chung-hee, who in this universe was a minor brigade commander during the Korean Civil War that became a war hero, as our man, but he's Army.

And for the points-done and done--later anyway.


Hmm... he would probably have to be airforce to be considered.



Hey Sharina do you have anyone you wan't to send?

Thanks to Korea's contribution we have enough to launch the unmanned, test animal and one manned mission.
So it is only fair that it is Korean that gets to go on the first manned mission.

However the second manned mission still needs to be paid for (5 points) and the country that donates it will have their man go into place on the second manned mission.

Also if anyone really wants then they can finace extra missions after that (1 point for unmanned, 4 points for animal test, 5 points for manned)

Korea has chosen a man for the job.

(OOC: This is the RL Source (http://www.airforce.mil.kr/ENG/PA/PAD_0600.html).)

Captain Yoo Chi Gon, a bomber pilot who served in the Civil War, has been chosen to lead Korea and Asia's first manned mission into space.

KTI also has donated a chimp from the Seoul Zoo for the animal test flight....

Hmm... he would probably have to be airforce to be considered.



Hey Sharina do you have anyone you wan't to send?

Still thinking about that, actually. I can't think of any good Chinese pilots unless I make them up (using the whole "RL families die in RL but are alive and have kids in E20 timeline or vice versa" scenario).

Still thinking about that, actually. I can't think of any good Chinese pilots unless I make them up (using the whole "RL families die in RL but are alive and have kids in E20 timeline or vice versa" scenario).

OOC: Hey don't knock, I do it all the time.
Just go ahead an make up an name saying he was some war hero that fought the Soviets in Manchuria.

Use this site http://www.behindthename.com/random/

Use this site http://www.behindthename.com/random/

Can we put that somewhere like the main page? It's REALLY useful...

Parthini']Can we put that somewhere like the main page? It's REALLY useful...

Sure go ahead, ask Sharina and I'm sure he'll do it.

Sure go ahead, ask Sharina and I'm sure he'll do it.

Added to E20 main post.

Pakistan inquires whether the SCT needs or would like any facilities to be built in Pakistan.

(OOC: This is mainly tying to make Pakistan more influential in the SCT, since Yahya paid pretty much nil attention to the SCT during his reign)

The USEA thanks Pakistan for it's offer of land for SCT purposes, but regretfully informs Pakistan that it is not needed at this time.
However Pakistan is told that the Asian Space Agency is short of funds (5 points) for it's launch program this year and would be very greatfull (You pay the money and your guy gets to go into space) if Pakistan would suply these needed funds.

The USEA thanks Pakistan for it's offer of land for SCT purposes, but regretfully informs Pakistan that it is not needed at this time.
However Pakistan is told that the Asian Space Agency is short of funds (5 points) for it's launch program this year and would be very greatfull (You pay the money and your guy gets to go into space) if Pakistan would suply these needed funds.

Pakistan has supplied 6.25 points to the SCT, to be used wherever it deems fit (I.E. the Asian Space Agency)

Korea has chosen a man for the job.

(OOC: This is the RL Source (http://www.airforce.mil.kr/ENG/PA/PAD_0600.html).)

Captain Yoo Chi Gon, a bomber pilot who served in the Civil War, has been chosen to lead Korea and Asia's first manned mission into space.

KTI also has donated a chimp from the Seoul Zoo for the animal test flight....

ooc
for astronauts, I would suggest looking up Korean, Chinese, and Vietnamese fighter aces from the Korean and Vietnam wars, plus the various Nationalist/Communist incidents over the years between 1950 and 1970

India and Pakistan have a few aces too, as of course does the Japanese (use World War II sources)

ooc
for astronauts, I would suggest looking up Korean, Chinese, and Vietnamese fighter aces from the Korean and Vietnam wars, plus the various Nationalist/Communist incidents over the years between 1950 and 1970

India and Pakistan have a few aces too, as of course does the Japanese (use World War II sources)

Funny, they mentioned on the ROK Air Force site this dude was a RL Ace...but I'll try again.

OOC: Hey TLS, I need a name for the astronaut you want to send. Any fighter ace you have will do.

OOC: Hey TLS, I need a name for the astronaut you want to send. Any fighter ace you have will do.

Um, the problem is, I can't find any South Asian aces that didn't fight in the Indo-Pakistani War of 1965.

Therefore, I come up with the random name Lt. Zulfikar Ahmed for my fighter ace.

Um, the problem is, I can't find any South Asian aces that didn't fight in the Indo-Pakistani War of 1965.

Therefore, I come up with the random name Lt. Zulfikar Ahmed for my fighter ace.

hmm, try Indian pilots in the RAF during World War II?

March 24 1953

The Asian Space Programme's first launch was a certified succes as the Gio Dong module contaning various Hi tech electronic sensors was launched from the Asian Space Agency's launch facility at Hat Yai in Thailand via a Korean Sejong IRBM.

The launch went off without a hitch and the module, which contained a radio transmitter and reciever and several sensors for studying conditions in near earth orbit, achived sub orbital altitudes over mianland China before and landing in the middle of the sea of Japan.

Whilst in flight communication between the module and a series of purpose built ASA tacking stations, built in member countries, was achieved.

The next launch is scheduled for April 3

The USEA suggests that with so many member states now possesing intelligiance agencies that the members of the SCT form a United Intelligiance Inititive (UII) this would act as a froum for the Asian inteligiance community to effeciantly share infomation and help co-ordiante joint SCT intellgiance operations.


[This would mean that all things that our intellgiance agencies find out would be automatically passed on to the rest of the SCT, unless it was specifically marked otherwise]

Japan agrees to this measure

OOC: I donated 10 points to the ASP, so do I get to launch a spaceflight?

Japan agrees to this measure

OOC: I donated 10 points to the ASP, so do I get to launch a spaceflight?


OOC; Next year you can have a guy go up in our second set of launches which will all be manned.
However if you want to pay 5 points for the launch you can send up a guy this year.

The last two unmanned launches by the Asian Space Program take place in April.

The April 3 launch starts off well with the rocket lifting off the pad under full power, however in the upper atmosphere it suffered an engine failure and plummetted down into the gulf of Thailand. The wreckage was later recovered by USEAN fleet units.

After studying the wreckage of the last launch ASA technicans believed they had found and solved the problem and the third unmanned launch was given a green light for April 28.
This went off without a hitch and gave more valuable infomation about condition in space and sub orbit.


The two launches using chimpanzees as test subject are scheduled for May.

(Ok, results fror chimp launches wil be up tommorrow. Also so far we have a failure rate of 30% compared to NASA's failure rate of 60% for it's Mercury program. Ha take that Amerika!! :P )

The USEA suggests that with so many member states now possesing intelligiance agencies that the members of the SCT form a United Intelligiance Inititive (UII) this would act as a froum for the Asian inteligiance community to effeciantly share infomation and help co-ordiante joint SCT intellgiance operations.


[This would mean that all things that our intellgiance agencies find out would be automatically passed on to the rest of the SCT, unless it was specifically marked otherwise]

Korea's Director of National Police consents, as does Kim Gu and Emperor Gang.

OOC: Hey guys because of GBs new rules for sapce launches I have realised that we have enough for four more manned missions.
So im goning to need lots of candidate names for astronauts, if I don't get them I'm going to be forced to make them up.

IC:
With funds allocated to the Asian Space Agency a network of space tracking radars has been built in member countries this will help keep track of ASA missions in progress.
Special radar ships will help monitor missions as they pass over other parts of the world.

Three more ASA space missions have been launched in the last two months.

The first a test flight with a chimpanzee pilot, donated by the Seoul zoo, scheduled for the 9th of May failed after heavy rains pushed the launch date back for two days and when the skies did clear the engines refused to ignite and so the launch was called off.

The second launch on the 30th of May was sucessfull with the test chimp recovered from the landed module in the Sea of Japan.

The third launch marked a historic occasion as Captain Yoo Chi Gon of the Royal Korean Air Force became the first Asian in space. All went according to plan and the captian described the experiance of leaving the earth's atmosphere as amazing after being picked up from his module.


The next manned launch is planned for next month on the 17th of july.

The third launch marked a historic occasion as Captain Yoo Chi Gon of the Royal Korean Air Force became the first Asian in space. All went according to plan and the captian described the experiance of leaving the earth's atmosphere as amazing after being picked up from his module.

The next manned launch is planned for next month on the 17th of july.

Kim Gu declares a national holiday (which is well recieved), and his popularity suddenly shoots up at home by a few points. Meanwhile, Yoo is given a hero's welcome home with a parade in Seoul, and an accolade from the Korean Government.

Three more Imperial Korean Air Force officers volunteer for the Asian Space Program. They are:

Lt. Park Young Jung
Capt. Afanasy M. Kulikov (from Vladivostok City)
Lt. Yi Jin-Ho Jung

Three more Imperial Korean Air Force officers volunteer for the Asian Space Program. They are:

Lt. Park Young Jung
Capt. Afanasy M. Kulikov (from Vladivostok City)
Lt. Yi Jin-Ho Jung

These officers are welocmed into the training program for space flight at the Hat Yai Launch centre.

Also the Korean government is asked permission by the ASA to build a dedicated training facility for space flight in Korea as well as a space tracking station.
Similar requests for space tracking station construction are sent all member nations.
(I need two in Japan, One in Korea, three in China and two in Pakistan. One is already being built in the USEA at Phu Bia.)


OOC: Guys i really do need more candidates for astronauts especially from Pakistan. Even if they don't get a chance this year they will go next year.

These officers are welocmed into the training program for space flight at the Hat Yai Launch centre.

Also the Korean government is asked permission by the ASA to build a dedicated training facility for space flight in Korea as well as a space tracking station.
Similar requests for space tracking station construction are sent all member nations.
(I need two in Japan, One in Korea, three in China and two in Pakistan. One is already being built in the USEA at Phu Bia.)


OOC: Guys i really do need more candidates for astronauts especially from Pakistan. Even if they don't get a chance this year they will go next year.

Kim's Government agrees to the proposed Space Training Facility, to be named the "Admiral Yi Memorial Training Center," based outside Pyongyang.

OOC: How much is this gonna cost me?

Kim's Government agrees to the proposed Space Training Facility, to be named the "Admiral Yi Memorial Training Center," based outside Pyongyang.

OOC: How much is this gonna cost me?

OOC: Same; I have 5 point set aside for the SCT this year; is that enough for at least 1?

I thought it only costs 5 points to build a network of space tracking stations (GB said nations could cooperate on this, which I think means just 5 points needed to supply ALL nations involved with space tracking)

Kim's Government agrees to the proposed Space Training Facility, to be named the "Admiral Yi Memorial Training Center," based outside Pyongyang.

OOC: How much is this gonna cost me?

Nothing, the construction of training facilities is covered by the mission and research costs and the Space tracking stations have been paid for out of the re-organized ASA budget.

I just need to know where they are going to be built.


IC:
The ASA also asks the Chinese government whether a secondary launch site can be contructed on Hainan Dao so that severe weather can be avoided without postponing launch dates. The launch vehicle and module would be carried by special train and then ferry to a Hainan Dao launch site.

(If accepted will be paid by the cost of the next mission research)




EDIT: Also I almost forgot to mention, through ASA research programs the SCT now has ICBM technology. Yay!!

China agrees to a secondary base situated in Hainan Dao. It has long term plans that may even encompass building a tunnel from mainland China to Hainan Dao.

China agrees to a secondary base situated in Hainan Dao. It has long term plans that may even encompass building a tunnel from mainland China to Hainan Dao.

ooc
you do know that Hainan is on the typhoon track for Southeast Asia

ooc
you do know that Hainan is on the typhoon track for Southeast Asia

Yes but if it is forcasted that bad weather will delay the launch at Hat Yai it can be shifted to Hainan and the launch will therefore avoid the bad weather even though it will eventually reach Hainan any way.

China agrees to a secondary base situated in Hainan Dao. It has long term plans that may even encompass building a tunnel from mainland China to Hainan Dao.

If you wish to build a tunnel you will have to build and pay the points for it and ask the mods how much it would cost.

ooc
you do know that Hainan is on the typhoon track for Southeast Asia

OOC:

That didn't stop NASA and the USA from building Cape Caneveral in Florida, prime hurricane territory.

Besides, China may constuct a second or third launch site elsewhere after building one on Hainan Dao.

OOC: Last reminder for astronauts before I make them up, I need names people!

Either that or the Koreans get to hog all the glory with their guys. It depends how lazy I feel when I get round to doing it.

Here's several Chinese aerospace personnel names- those who will be eligible to be sent into space....

1. Fu Huo

2. Shui Xue

3. Ping Qiu

4. Heng Ming

5. Ru Bao (save him for last as his name is a good one and I don't want him killed)

OOC:

That didn't stop NASA and the USA from building Cape Caneveral in Florida, prime hurricane territory.

Besides, China may constuct a second or third launch site elsewhere after building one on Hainan Dao.

Perhaps we could try building it in Qinghai Province, or perhaps in Tibet of all places (assuming you actually own that).

Perhaps we could try building it in Qinghai Province, or perhaps in Tibet of all places (assuming you actually own that).

I actually own Tibet as of 1952.

I actually own Tibet as of 1952.

Cool. Then, we could do it there.

The second Manned Gio Dong mission on the 17th of july was a complete success as Lieutenant Saral Naveen of the Republic of Pakistan Airforce was retreived from his landed module by the USEAN destroyer Pei Tan in the Sea of Japan. Marking the second successful manned spaceflight by the ASA.
Two more sucessful flights followed on the 23rd and 31st of july, piloted by Captain Ping Qiu of the ROCAF and Lieutenant Baldev Mani Sumantra of the USEAAF respectively.

However on the 5th of August disaster struck as the mission piloted by Lieutenant Yi Jin-Ho Jung of the IKAF suffered a catatrophic engine failure while still in the Earth's atmosphere. The rocket began to spin uncontrolably before detonatong in a huge explosion.
Lieutenant Yi Jin-Ho Jung is reported to have ejected from his doomed flight with even a radar sighting of his parachute over mainland Indochina.
Search and rescue operations were mounted and his description distributed to inhabitants of the area, but nothing was found and the Lieutenant was considered dead.

His name will be put on a plaque and mounted on the main hangar at the Hat Yai Space Centre in memory of the ultimate sacrifice he gave to advance the frontier of Asian spaceflight.

The final mission of the year took place on the 19th of August, piloted by Captain Hiroyoshi Nishizawa of the Imperial Japanese Naval Air Force it went without any complicationsand the captian was retrieved by the Japanese Navy on time.


OOC:
Okay, I still need locations for space tracking stations. And also next year we should be able to launch orbital flights as part of the Gio Dong II series of missions. However to do this we need an ICBM missile to launch them on.

OOC: Hey guys I have come up with an idea for the SCT flag:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v671/lazyjim/SCTflag2.png

Each part of the segmented ring represents a member nation.

Not a bad flag at all. :)

I'd go for the flag, too.

OOC: Ive also got a stylised version:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v671/lazyjim/SCTflag3.png

And we ever decide on a unified currency here is an example:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v671/lazyjim/SCTnoteHolo.png

OOC: Ive also got a stylised version:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v671/lazyjim/SCTflag3.png

And we ever decide on a unified currency here is an example:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v671/lazyjim/SCTnoteHolo.png

Wow.

What program do you use to make these?

OOC: Gimp 2.2, it free and very useful once you've played around with it a while to find out what all the functions do.

OOC: Gimp 2.2, it free and very useful once you've played around with it a while to find out what all the functions do.

OOC: I use Gimp. I tried to download Gimp shop, so that it looked like Photoshop (easier to follow tutorials that way), but it didn't work.

OOC: I use Gimp. I tried to download Gimp shop, so that it looked like Photoshop (easier to follow tutorials that way), but it didn't work.

OOC: When I first started using it I wasn't vey good but if you just experiment and find out how things work for yourself I find that it is better than any tutorial.

However to do this we need an ICBM missile to launch them on.

OOC: Wouldn't mind providing you guys with the ICBM's.

Not a bad flag at all. :)

Hmm...not bad. Though I prefer the version with all of the little nations in there-the version with the broken circle doesn't jive with me for some reason.

OOC: Wouldn't mind providing you guys with the ICBM's.

OOC: Thanks, we are quite capable of building them ourselves.

OOC:
Back of the 100 Dong note
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v671/lazyjim/SCTnoteHoloback.png

In 1954 we will be able to launch the Gio Dong II series of missions which will use the same module as before but instead mounted on a larger ICBM rocket. (Korea could you build these? Maybe base them on the Soviet R-7) These will therefore be capable of achieving full orbit.

So far we have enough points for the following launch schedule.

1x Unmanned flight with sensors only. 1 point
March-7

1x Test animal flight. 1 point
April-20

2x Manned Missions. 10 points
May- 11
June- 4


10 to 15 more points would be appriciated so that we can get more manned launches in.
Also we need around 23 points for research into Large ICBMs.

Donations needed from: Japan and China

OOC:
Back of the 100 Dong note
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v671/lazyjim/SCTnoteHoloback.png

I'm not sure if we should go with "Dong" as the name of our currency. After all, it seems rather East Asian too me, and while East Asian nations make up the majority of the population, there's still 400 million non-East asians.

Also, I thought the official language of the SCT was English. If so, another name (Maybe Asio?) would be more practical.

In 1954 we will be able to launch the Gio Dong II series of missions which will use the same module as before but instead mounted on a larger ICBM rocket. (Korea could you build these? Maybe base them on the Soviet R-7) These will therefore be capable of achieving full orbit.

So far we have enough points for the following launch schedule.

1x Unmanned flight with sensors only. 1 point
March-7

1x Test animal flight. 1 point
April-20

2x Manned Missions. 10 points
May- 11
June- 4


10 to 15 more points would be appriciated so that we can get more manned launches in.
Also we need around 23 points for research into Large ICBMs.

Donations needed from: Pakistan and China

I've donated 5.25 points to the SCT this year.

In 1954 we will be able to launch the Gio Dong II series of missions which will use the same module as before but instead mounted on a larger ICBM rocket. (Korea could you build these? Maybe base them on the Soviet R-7) These will therefore be capable of achieving full orbit.

Sure. I'd have to do some accounting first though.

And as for the currency, Asio sounds too far out there. Perhaps we should base it on names of old East Asian currencies, such as old Chinese coins, which were widely used in East Asia (China and Japan).

Or, we could always go with the Dollar, or some word for "East" in Chinese or Indian, or perhaps a word that combines elements of the two. Just throwin' some ideas out there.

Sure. I'd have to do some accounting first though.

And as for the currency, Asio sounds too far out there. Perhaps we should base it on names of old East Asian currencies, such as old Chinese coins, which were widely used in East Asia (China and Japan).

Or, we could always go with the Dollar, or some word for "East" in Chinese or Indian, or perhaps a word that combines elements of the two. Just throwin' some ideas out there.

How does Asio sound too far out there?

Anyhoo, lemme think of some alternative names...

Azio is Esperanto for Asia, and since Asia has alot of Esperanto speakers (compared to other areas of the world), perhaps we could use that.

Azio is Esperanto for Asia, and since Asia has alot of Esperanto speakers (compared to other areas of the world), perhaps we could use that.

Deal.

Azio is Esperanto for Asia, and since Asia has alot of Esperanto speakers (compared to other areas of the world), perhaps we could use that.

sounds okay to me

I've donated 5.25 points to the SCT this year.

Sorry I got you mixed up with Japan, fixed.

New Asio notes:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v671/lazyjim/ASIOnoteHolo.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v671/lazyjim/AsionoteHoloback.png

I need to know how many points are needed for the "Large ICBM" technology research. It costs 24 points, correct? How many has the various SCT nations contributed to the Large ICBM research?

I need to know how many points are needed for the "Large ICBM" technology research. It costs 24 points, correct? How many has the various SCT nations contributed to the Large ICBM research?

I've got ten cashed in. Less this year because I'm making ICBMs on order from the USEA (the Sejong II Class, based on the Soviet R-7 type).

Can the United Islamic Republic join the Seoul Conference Treaty?

Can the United Islamic Republic join the Seoul Conference Treaty?

SIC:

Some deliberation among Kim Gu, the ailing Emperor Gang and HRH Prince Wu results in the agreement among themselves that while they would have preferred a strong united FAS, they will have to now deal with the reality a predominately Islamic nation has risen and broken off successfully, with a majority of the people of those regions in support of the UIR.

Emperor Gang then points out, in a strained voice, that perhaps it would be wise to make friends with the UIR now to keep things calm, and not have to face them as an enemy later. Besides, it might broaden the appeal of the SCT somewhat as a pan-Asian organization.

Wu agrees, and appeals to Kim's sense of anti-imperialism to get him onboard.

Open IC to UIR:

Kim Gu delivers this message to the UIR:

"We will support a bid from the United Islamic Republic to join the Seoul Conference Treaty. We feel it will be to the benefit of this group and a boon to Asia to accept this new nation into the SCT."

Open IC to UIR:

Kim Gu delivers this message to the UIR:

"We will support a bid from the United Islamic Republic to join the Seoul Conference Treaty. We feel it will be to the benefit of this group and a boon to Asia to accept this new nation into the SCT."

The UIR thanks the wise Korean Nation and waits for the other members to express their views.

I need to know how many points are needed for the "Large ICBM" technology research. It costs 24 points, correct? How many has the various SCT nations contributed to the Large ICBM research?

There are 11.25 points remaining before large ICBM research can be completed and 22.5 remaining points that can be spent on missile research.

The UIR thanks the wise Korean Nation and waits for the other members to express their views.

China seconds the Korean motion and the UIR's membership request.

Pakistan votes a hearty yes on the admission of the UIR into the SCT.

Japan votes yes and will be allocating 10 points to the ASP

Japan votes yes and will be allocating 10 points to the ASP

We should be able to finish the Large ICBM research- Ato said 11.25 points left, right? So Japan gives 10 and China gives 1.25 points so the ICBM's should be done this year, correct?

China will be able to start allocating more and more money to the ASP and SCT endeavours when it finishes upgrading its military (gotta do this for various reasons). After I finish the military and the bevy of nuclear related researches, I can easily donate up to even 20-40 points a year to the SCT. (most likely by 1955 or 1956)

Pakistan votes a hearty yes on the admission of the UIR into the SCT.

The Hindus and other non-Muslim ethnicities who spent several years fighting and dying to keep the UIR part of India are not pleased at all.

Protests from these groups break out near capitals.

Parthini']The Hindus and other non-Muslim ethnicities who spent several years fighting and dying to keep the UIR part of India are not pleased at all.

Protests from these groups break out near capitals.

OOC: You don't understand. The Civil War, and the FAS in general, was seen as a symbol of the oppressive western backed regime of Yahya Khan. When the FAS was dissolved, there were mass celebrations in the street. If you don't remember, Yahya Khan was extremely un-popular, to the point of his government being destroyed in an orgy of violence that lead to the death of tens of thousands of army officials. The Persians and Afghans were seen as baggage, not as real members of the FAS.

OOC: You don't understand. The Civil War, and the FAS in general, was seen as a symbol of the oppressive western backed regime of Yahya Khan. When the FAS was dissolved, there were mass celebrations in the street. If you don't remember, Yahya Khan was extremely un-popular, to the point of his government being destroyed in an orgy of violence that lead to the death of tens of thousands of army officials. The Persians and Afghans were seen as baggage, not as real members of the FAS.

Ok. If you wish to go that route, then why would the people who are suddenly so happy to have the "baggage" gone, be complacent with having them as allies? Your reasoning doesn't make sense.

Think about it.

You are a 25 year old man with a wife and kids, living in far West Pakistan. When the UIR revolted, you were drafted to fight them, even though you didn't like them. You fought them and learned to hate your government. Why should we protect this trash? The War is over and the government is dead. Hurrah!

Suddenly, the new government decides they want to be friends with those you just fought, the same garbage. No. None of this half-assed shit. They wanted to be out, so they stay out!

Plus, wouldn't your people not be pleased even being involved in the SCT? The same group of people who assissted the evil Pro-Western Government?

Parthini']Ok. If you wish to go that route, then why would the people who are suddenly so happy to have the "baggage" gone, be complacent with having them as allies? Your reasoning doesn't make sense.

Think about it.

You are a 25 year old man with a wife and kids, living in far West Pakistan. When the UIR revolted, you were drafted to fight them, even though you didn't like them. You fought them and learned to hate your government. Why should we protect this trash? The War is over and the government is dead. Hurrah!

Suddenly, the new government decides they want to be friends with those you just fought, the same garbage. No. None of this half-assed shit. They wanted to be out, so they stay out!

Plus, wouldn't your people not be pleased even being involved in the SCT? The same group of people who assissted the evil Pro-Western Government?

Yahya Khan barely participated in the SCT, and during the entire civil war the SCT was constantly pushing for reform.

Explained my reasons for China's limited aid to the SCT in our room.

ooc. So...I'm in? Everybody except the NPC's voted yes, so...

ooc. So...I'm in? Everybody except the NPC's voted yes, so...

OOC: I see no reason why the NPC's would vote no. The only member that really had a reason to vote no was me, and I voted yes.

The USEA accepts the UIR into the SCT and welcomes this new age of Pan Asian cooperation.

The UIR is invited to join in the Asian Space Agency and combined SCt military exercises.

The Republic of Pakistan suggest that an Asian Currency Unit as a a basket of the currencies of the Seoul Conference Treaty member states, used as the unit of account of the Seoul Conference Treaty. The Asian Exchange Rate Mechanism will attempt to minimize fluctuations between member state currencies and the ACU. The ACU will also used in some international financial transactions.

(OOC: This is a first step towards a unified currency. It took 20 years for Europe to go from the ECU to the Euro, so hopefully we can shorten it down to about 10)

The Republic of Pakistan suggest that an Asian Currency Unit as a a basket of the currencies of the Seoul Conference Treaty member states, used as the unit of account of the Seoul Conference Treaty. The Asian Exchange Rate Mechanism will attempt to minimize fluctuations between member state currencies and the ACU. The ACU will also used in some international financial transactions.

(OOC: This is a first step towards a unified currency. It took 20 years for Europe to go from the ECU to the Euro, so hopefully we can shorten it down to about 10)

The USEA agrees with the Republic of Pakistan and suggests that a centralized board be created to handle both the ACU and AERM

Korea likes the idea. But it must ask, what do you mean by unit of account?

The USEA agrees with the Republic of Pakistan and suggests that a centralized board be created to handle both the ACU and AERM

China seconds this and makes a suggestion that the new currency be called the "Asio" or "Azio".

The Republic of Pakistan suggest that an Asian Currency Unit as a a basket of the currencies of the Seoul Conference Treaty member states, used as the unit of account of the Seoul Conference Treaty. The Asian Exchange Rate Mechanism will attempt to minimize fluctuations between member state currencies and the ACU. The ACU will also used in some international financial transactions.

(OOC: This is a first step towards a unified currency. It took 20 years for Europe to go from the ECU to the Euro, so hopefully we can shorten it down to about 10)

The US will very quietly recommend to the Philippines and Japan that they hold off on unifying their currencies until the stability of the new currency is clear

China seconds this and makes a suggestion that the new currency be called the "Asio" or "Azio".

It's not a curreny, per se.

(OOC: Look up the European Currency Unit on Wikipedia to get an idea of what it is.)

The US will very quietly recommend to the Philippines and Japan that they hold off on unifying their currencies until the stability of the new currency is clear

OOC: As TLS said the ACU isn't a new currency but an interim measure in which the individual currencies of memeber nations will be accounted against.
The Asian Exchange Rate Mechanism meanwhile stabilises all member nation individual currencies to approximate parity in preperation for the introduction of the Asio which is a real currency while the ACU is only a virtual one in which accounts are documented in.

It's not a curreny, per se.

(OOC: Look up the European Currency Unit on Wikipedia to get an idea of what it is.)

I sorta get the gist. Basically, its a way to stabilize the currencies of the SCT nations.

I sorta get the gist. Basically, its a way to stabilize the currencies of the SCT nations.

I stand corrected.

Nevertheless, China will still support this effort to stabilize Asian currencies in preparation for the move to the "Asio" currency.

I stand corrected.

Nevertheless, China will still support this effort to stabilize Asian currencies in preparation for the move to the "Asio" currency.

Korea seconds this, and opts for the same.

ASA mission report:

The first unmanned orbital space launch occured on march the 7th and was a complete sucess with the module orbiting the world once before landing in the Andaman Sea.
A second orbital test flight on April the 20th, holding the chimp Kopo from the Saigon national Zoo ended disastourously when the module burnt up on re-entry.

On the 11th of May the first manned orbital flight was piloted by Captain Ru Bao of the ROCAF and as such he is the first asian to achieve orbit. (And I think the second person overall.)
The 4th of June launching was a similar sucess with Captain Afanasy M. Kulikov of the IKAF staying in orbit for a whole day before re enterying adn being picked up by the USEAN destroyer Sho Li.

Japan supports the currency.

OOC: do I get a pilot launched soon?

Japan supports the currency.

OOC: do I get a pilot launched soon?

You got one launched last year, a Captain Hiroyoshi Nishizawa of the Imperial Japanese Naval Airforce, his flight was sucessful and occured on the 19th of august.

sweet, My internet has been down. Does that mean he was the first ever person in space, or the second?

sweet, My internet has been down. Does that mean he was the first ever person in space, or the second?

Second. A Korean made it to space before you did.

excellent. my support for the ASP will continue at 10 points for a while

Second. A Korean made it to space before you did.

Behind a Frenchman...

Parthini']Behind a Frenchman...

Actually, I meant sub-orbital flights. But meh. I'll give that one to yeh.

BTW, thanks for starting an oil shock. :D

Any time :)

Behind a Frenchman...

And 5 Brits.

BTW, I thought I had a guy going into space?

sweet, My internet has been down. Does that mean he was the first ever person in space, or the second?

On the ASA space programme he was 6th behind two Koreans (One of which died), an Indian, one guy from China and an Indochinese pilot.

If you give me names to send up, nore Japanese people will go.

BTW, I thought I had a guy going into space?

Say, I think ye did.

Guys, we need to figure out what to do with the shock. Seriously. Potential resources in Indonesia and Pakistan are fine, but they did say it won't be enough.

What about exploring Malaysia or perhaps the Spratly Islands? Or we could always build more reactors.

Say, I think ye did.

Guys, we need to figure out what to do with the shock. Seriously. Potential resources in Indonesia and Pakistan are fine, but they did say it won't be enough.

What about exploring Malaysia or perhaps the Spratly Islands? Or we could always build more reactors.

Perfect time for the Kra Canal! We can shorten the time it takes for oil to reach the Far East. We can also pour money into searching for more oil in the Pacific.

Also, we can try and get the Central Asian Republic and Xinjiang/Kashgaria to hand over some oil. Also, isn't the UIR in the SCT?

Also, isn't the UIR in the SCT?

Verily. They may have oil we need. We need that Kra Canal and rails to get it to the rest of Asia though.

Perfect time for the Kra Canal! We can shorten the time it takes for oil to reach the Far East.

Seconded.

We can also pour money into searching for more oil in the Pacific.

Seconded. I say, focus on the Spratlys first.

Also, we can try and get the Central Asian Republic and Xinjiang/Kashgaria to hand over some oil.

I'll put that up on the NPC Diplomacy Thread.

Guys, we need to figure out what to do with the shock. Seriously. Potential resources in Indonesia and Pakistan are fine, but they did say it won't be enough.

What about exploring Malaysia or perhaps the Spratly Islands? Or we could always build more reactors.

OOC: To the bat cave people!!! (SCT chatzy) There we shall draw our plans.

Muhahahhaha!!

OOC: To the bat cave people!!! (SCT chatzy) There we shal draw our plans.

Muhahahhaha!!

SCT has chatzy? WHERE?

SCT has chatzy? WHERE?



EDIT: Removed on request. My apologies.

NOOOOOOO!! do not post it here the stuff in there is top secret!!!!!

I forgot the chatzy link :(

Can you just TG me it or something?

BTW, you guys ever consider that for our space program we could, Oh, I don't know...

Attach some nukes to one of our space rockets? To give us that extra OOMPH?

BTW, you guys ever consider that for our space program we could, Oh, I don't know...

Attach some nukes to one of our space rockets? To give us that extra OOMPH?

OOC: Yes, and I think that is what China is doing. However I haven't purchased any of the Sejong rockets off Korea to attach my nuclear weapons to.

Also just to clear something up, as far as my knowledge goes me and china arn't sharing our nuclear powerplant tech with the rest of the SCT, but as this energy crisis worsens that might change.

OOC: Yes, and I think that is what China is doing. However I haven't purchased any of the Sejong rockets off Korea to attach my nuclear weapons to.

Also just to clear something up, as far as my knowledge goes me and china rn't sharing our nuclear powerplant tech with the rest of the SCT, but as this energy crisis worsens that might change.

You aren't sharing your nukular techs? That be an outrage! I thought the SCT shared everything with each other. I thought it was a mutual happiness alliance, not a "leech off of other peoples money so we can develop n000kes and not share the tech" alliance.

You aren't sharing your nukular techs? That be an outrage! I thought the SCT shared everything with each other. I thought it was a mutual happiness alliance, not a "leech off of other peoples money so we can develop n000kes and not share the tech" alliance.

Firstly the SCT charter never said anything about nuclear technology.

Secondly no money donated by SCT member nations has ever been used on developing nuclear technology by either the USEA or China.

It was reached by general consensus between us that we wouldn't give out nukes to everybody to begin with. However I'm sure if you asked, which by the way you have never done, we could work something out such as giving you the nuclear fueling tech. You would still have to spend 72 points over three year to develop the infrastructre.

OOC: Oh ho ho! Now I'm sure that would go over well, giving India nuclear technology...

Parthini']OOC: Oh ho ho! Now I'm sure that would go over well, giving India nuclear technology...

OOC: Y'know, every day, you make me like the Scandic Union a little more :).

BTW, can someone please send me a link to the SCT chatzy?

The USEA accepts the UIR into the SCT and welcomes this new age of Pan Asian cooperation.

The UIR is invited to join in the Asian Space Agency and combined SCt military exercises.

We thank all Member Nations for letting the UIR join the modern world. We will contribute for the SCT Space Project (I'll contribute points in my next build) and we will eagerly join Military Excerices. We will also share our resources and powers to make this world a better place (for us :D)

ps. The UIR doesn't even has an Airforce (yet) so I'll doubt a UIR guy will go up soon!;)

SIC:
Due to the increasing global energy crisis around the world that has hit Asia especially hard, the USEA supplies the core nations of the SCT with the research on Nuclear fueling and commercial nuclear power plants.

(Core nations include; Korea, Japan and Pakistan [China and USEA already have it.)


{N.B. This means you still have to spend 72 points over 3 years to get the nuclear fuel processing infrastructre)

[Addendum: Nuclear bomb research is not included]

Right-o!

July-8 (Lieutenant Takashi Kazuo, IJNAF)
July-9 (Major Trai Trúc, USEAAF)
August-14 (Captain Hermino Tu, AFPAF)

Three manned orbital launches in 1955, all succed.
Lieutenant Takashi Kazuo of the IJNAF and Major Trai Trúc of the USEAAF made a record first when they sighted each other from their modules on July 9 and made the first radio conversation in space.
On August 14th the first Fillipino in space, Captain Hermino Tu of the AFPAF completed three orbits around the globe.

The massive Asian Communications Network was also completed late this year as the final satelites in the network that spans from the United Islamic Republics to Japan were put in place.

The Empire of Japan is glad to see it's money well spent

Now that we have begun to have large amounts of surplus economic potential available the USEA suggests that a program by where core SCT (Pakistan, Korea, Japan, USEA and China) members donate funds to build two shipping units a year for each nation (Burma, the Phillipines and UIR) untill they have reached their commerce max.
Next The rural electrification of each country lacking it would be paid..

This would involve:
-18 points a year for shipping untill commerce max has been reached.
-2 points For Burma RE and 2 points for UIR RE
- Total = 4 points for 3 years

Overall total would be then 22 points for the first three years and 18 points thereafter untill all nations had capped commerce points.

This will greatly accelerate the growth of our smaller members and would allow them to join at the vanguard of our advancement.

We propose that an Asian Economic Fund be set up to distribute these points and any other donations given.

(OOC:I also suggest that the AEF be under the supervision of Sharina.)

Votes on this subject may now be cast.

Pakistan shall vote aye. However, unlike the rest of the core SCT members, our economy is still relatively small and underdeveloped (compared to what it could be). Therefore, while Pakistan is undergoing economic change, we will not be able to donate as many funds. However, we shall try and donate as many funds as possible.

Pakistan shall vote aye. However, unlike the rest of the core SCT members, our economy is still relatively small and underdeveloped (compared to what it could be). Therefore, while Pakistan is undergoing economic change, we will not be able to donate as many funds. However, we shall try and donate as many funds as possible.

OOC: Don't worry it is only going to be about 4 points per nation.

Could I have a lsit of the countries participating in the Asian Exchange Rate Mechanism (AERM) and the Asian Currency Unit (ACU) program, so that I can establish the 'Asio Zone'

I would appreciate NPC confirmation as well.

Could I have a lsit of the countries participating in the Asian Exchange Rate Mechanism (AERM) and the Asian Currency Unit (ACU) program, so that I can establish the 'Asio Zone'

I would appreciate NPC confirmation as well.

China should already be participating in this, as well as Korea, given that we both seconded the currency and economic proposals a while ago.

Could I have a lsit of the countries participating in the Asian Exchange Rate Mechanism (AERM) and the Asian Currency Unit (ACU) program, so that I can establish the 'Asio Zone'

I would appreciate NPC confirmation as well.

Well, since Pakistan proposed the idea of the ACU, the AERM, and the Azio/Asio, I would presume that Pakistan would be in it as well.

Pakistan shall vote aye.

As shall we. This sounds like an excellent idea to help better aid those members who need to have projects accomplished, but lack funds.