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i think its time i delared ZP inactive and Padme can now be used by anyone who so chooses.

also on another note, depending on how this RP ends who would be interested in an RP based on its timeline but set about 5 years in its future. i am still working on it, and its directly going with this RP depends on if the Jedi win or lose. if it doesn't work with who wins or loses it would just be an alternate history for an alternate history, but could still work well...the RP would only start after this one ends just checking for interest.

i think its time i delared ZP inactive and Padme can now be used by anyone who so chooses.

also on another note, depending on how this RP ends who would be interested in an RP based on its timeline but set about 5 years in its future. i am still working on it, and its directly going with this RP depends on if the Jedi win or lose. if it doesn't work with who wins or loses it would just be an alternate history for an alternate history, but could still work well...the RP would only start after this one ends just checking for interest.

Just an idea; If Kraven (dark side/sith) end up winning, you could make the new RP like the resistance or rebellion type thing (except with maybe three or four Jedi) - like the movies, but better.

sounds like a good idea for a Sith win. i am currently coming up with the form for a Jedi win. it could invalve anything from Nightsisters, the Dark Force, Mandalorians. possible Chiss or Ssi-Ruuk action. again it is still in the making and i like to keep my options open. the RP could invalve all or just one of the listed groups...

Sounds good, I'm definatly interested.

EDIT: Nevermind

Interesting...

I will ponder this...

I hope that Obi-Wan lives threw the clone wars to see a rebellion take place.

I hope that Obi-Wan lives threw the clone wars to see a rebellion take place.

That is obviously up to you... (though make another stupid decision and he has no chance)

Hm...I'm game for a follow-up, though we'd have end this with the Galactic Empire in place. I will be the first to say Palps is THE greatest manipulator ever, but I'm just not sure how he could pull it off. The Seperatists are on the brink of defeat, and the Death Star, even operational, cannot stand against the full force of the Republic alone.

And there's the matter of what happens to Anakin. He's not the perfect Jedi, and has barely been in this, but at the end of the day, he's the Chosen One. If we're following Star Wars, there's no hope for balance in the Force while Anakin is dead (If he's alive and just working for Sith...another matter entirely).

And only thing I could think of Palp doing to get rid of the Jedi to the extent he did in the movie's at this point is to blow up Coruscant. Or, manage to get past the rescue team inviteably coming for Anakin, make it to Coruscant, and hold it hostage.

Hm...I'm game for a follow-up, though we'd have end this with the Galactic Empire in place. I will be the first to say Palps is THE greatest manipulator ever, but I'm just not sure how he could pull it off. The Seperatists are on the brink of defeat, and the Death Star, even operational, cannot stand against the full force of the Republic alone.

And there's the matter of what happens to Anakin. He's not the perfect Jedi, and has barely been in this, but at the end of the day, he's the Chosen One. If we're following Star Wars, there's no hope for balance in the Force while Anakin is dead (If he's alive and just working for Sith...another matter entirely).

And only thing I could think of Palp doing to get rid of the Jedi to the extent he did in the movie's at this point is to blow up Coruscant. Not very smart...

That is why we (Nebarri) is working on an idea/plan for both situations: 1) If Jedi/Republic wins and 2) If Sidious/Dark Side wins

Sorry i haven't been posting folks, been rushed off my feet with work, I was taking a van from Newcastle upon Tyne down to London (600+ miles and 17 hours worth of driving) on monday, and ive been busy with work else where through the week, starting at 3:30 in the morning, so I haven't had the time or the Energy to post, I will hopefully get some of this sorted out by saturday

Oh, and Darkside 4 teh Wln!!!1lolol

That is why we (Nebarri) is working on an idea/plan for both situations: 1) If Jedi/Republic wins and 2) If Sidious/Dark Side wins

Ok so here is an idea I made up in my spare time for the Jedi/Republic win(i'll get working on a better story for the Sith later). It is somewhat crazy and is simply the first draft, and if anyone thinks it should be changed or scrapped then that’s just fine anyway here is the basic start/plot.

set in 14 BBY
The leader of the Dark Force and fallen jedi Knight Kadann has foreseen a chance to destroy the Jedi Order following this path he allies himself with the Mandalorian Spar.. Kadann then heads to the planet Dathomir to meet Gethzerion, leader of the powerful clan of the Nightsisters. Striking a deal with her alone the lines of “we take you off this rock, and give you a chance at power and you help us take out the Jedi order.” Gethzerion accepts and puts into effect her own vision, the location and tactical expertise of the Banished Chiss Thrawn. So after taking the Nightsisters of Dathomir Kadann heads out after Thrawn and convinces him to join(Thrawn was convinced before that the Jedi my be a threat to the Chiss, despite being banished he is still loyal to the Chiss) to gain a sizable fleet and army they frighten, steal from, manipulate, and buy what they can from the governments of the galaxy, notably the CIS(if it is not dissolved by the Republic) (possibly the Hapans), and the Ssi-Ruuk. by this time Spar has gathered a number of Mandalorians to join the fight...

Sounds like a pretty good kickass plot, man. Gethzerion was one of the few Force users who Palpy actually feared. And Kadann...the very same Prophet of the Darkside. Also, it would be cool for the CIS to do something like the Empire did- sit down and make a deal with the Republic.

The only issues I have with this is the fact that you mention are that you got Boba Fett leading the Mando's. He's good, he's Jango Fett's kid, but he's about, what, 18 now?

i made it up at school, i didn't have time to go to a computer and look up better people for the job. i found any of these may be used

Fenn Shysa
Rav Bralor
Tobbi Dala
Cort Davin
Kal Skirata
Walon Vau

Sounds like a pretty good kickass plot, man. Gethzerion was one of the few Force users who Palpy actually feared. And Kadann...the very same Prophet of the Darkside. Also, it would be cool for the CIS to do something like the Empire did- sit down and make a deal with the Republic.

The only issues I have with this is the fact that you mention are that you got Boba Fett leading the Mando's. He's good, he's Jango Fett's kid, but he's about, what, 18 now?

He'd be about 45

After doing a quick check, at this point in time, Alpha-Ø2, AKA Spar, is the leader of the Mando's. But if not him, let's use Fenn...

i said BBY not ABY...i don't want to go to far in the future.(chances have having a third RP?)

After doing a quick check, at this point in time, Alpha-Ø2, AKA Spar, is the leader of the Mando's. But if not him, let's use Fenn...

so Spar it is

i said BBY not ABY...i don't want to go to far in the future.(chances have having a third RP?)

Ah, good point. My mistake - he would be about 17 then.

Seperatists are on the brink of defeat, and the Death Star, even operational, cannot stand against the full force of the Republic alone.

Seperatists are not on the brink of defeat! We are doing prett much okay, and I like the NP's idea, I wouldn't like to change people so it would be nice if the CIS insurrection wasn't totally put down.

Seperatists are not on the brink of defeat! We are doing prett much okay, and I like the NP's idea, I wouldn't like to change people so it would be nice if the CIS insurrection wasn't totally put down.

Who is this...?

Seperatists are not on the brink of defeat! We are doing prett much okay, and I like the NP's idea, I wouldn't like to change people so it would be nice if the CIS insurrection wasn't totally put down.
Yes, who are you...

Yes, who are you...

My guess is Vimpira or Moorington

Its not me thats for sure, The Name isn't Evil enough to be me...

for all we know it could just be some random person but not likely...somehow i get the fealing this post could be called pointless...

But yeah, to quote Obi-Wan from Episode III:

"The Outer Rim Sieges...are going very well."

By this time, most people thought the war was pretty much over, with only the hiding of the Separatist Council being the last thing to defeating the Seps. The CIS is collapsing, most of the minor members are re-swearing loyalty to the Republic, including some droid foundries. Ever notice that the War ended immediately after Mustafar? It was because the Seps were already nearly defeated, and the death of the Sep council was what finished them off. The only reason evil survived was because of its' control over the Republic. The Death Star is nowhere near completion, only a single legion of Clones is now loyal to Sideous, and the droids are being countered left and right.

It would take a miracle for the Seps to win.

But yeah, to quote Obi-Wan from Episode III:

"The Outer Rim Sieges...are going very well."

By this time, most people thought the war was pretty much over, with only the hiding of the Separatist Council being the last thing to defeating the Seps. The CIS is collapsing, most of the minor members are re-swearing loyalty to the Republic, including some droid foundries. Ever notice that the War ended immediately after Mustafar? It was because the Seps were already nearly defeated, and the death of the Sep council was what finished them off. The only reason evil survived was because of its' control over the Republic. The Death Star is nowhere near completion, only a single legion of Clones is now loyal to Sideous, and the droids are being countered left and right.

It would take a miracle for the Seps to win.

You realize that the entire senate has been destroyed...?

You Realise, The Entire senate has been Destroyed, I have Pademe and Anakin Captive (Not so much Anakin, But will be soon) The Death star, is not Completed but is Operational, (The Whole time while the RP has been going on the Construction of the Deathstar has been going on in the Background)

Most* of the Senate...not all Senators are on Coruscant.

And the Senate =/= Republic. As long as the Jedi are still there, the Clone Army is still coordinated. Since most of the power lies in the executive at this point, formerly Chancellor Palpaltine, then even WITH a Senate the Jedi would now be ruling the Republic. Without one, the Jedi Council now assumes the executive power and near-dictatorial powers over the Republic until the Senate is re-elected and a new Supreme Chancellor chosen, as we discussed previously.

EDIT: And it is VERY godmod to say the DS is operational. VERY godmod. It took 20 years for a GALACTIC EMPIRE with dozens of worlds of SLAVE LABOR + DROID LABORERS to get it built.

EDIT2: I don't even think the superlaser will be invented yet for a few years.

Knew that would happen, It doesn't matter then

Did you see my edits?

Most* of the Senate...not all Senators are on Coruscant.

And the Senate =/= Republic. As long as the Jedi are still there, the Clone Army is still coordinated. Since most of the power lies in the executive at this point, formerly Chancellor Palpaltine, then even WITH a Senate the Jedi would now be ruling the Republic. Without one, the Jedi Council now assumes the executive power and near-dictatorial powers over the Republic until the Senate is re-elected and a new Supreme Chancellor chosen, as we discussed previously.

EDIT: And it is VERY godmod to say the DS is operational. VERY godmod. It took 20 years for a GALACTIC EMPIRE with dozens of worlds of SLAVE LABOR + DROID LABORERS to get it built.

EDIT2: I don't even think the superlaser will be invented yet for a few years.

Actually the senate does equal the republic.

The power does not lie in the executive at this point. With the removal of Palpatine and the election of a new chancellor the emergency powers were removed.

Now there is one BIG thing you have forgotten about. The senate was attacked, hundreds of senators were slaughtered, and the building was destroyed. This will do many things. The first of which is that it will cause major disorganization in the Republic. However, the BIGGEST issue is that MANY systems will have lost faith in the Republic and Jedi - the homeworld was attacked so easily and the Jedi were helpless to stop it.

Yes, but im not going to do it if its going to cause more arguements, but my reasoning behind it is, Palp has been found out, the Location of the deathstar has been discovered, so all resources available will be channeled into bringing it into Operational Status, like the one in Return of the Jedi, Long way from completion but the weapon operational.

I don't understand the Super lazer bit, whats the point in building a Battle station if the main weapon for it hasn't even been realised yet?

Actually the senate does equal the republic.

The power does not lie in the executive at this point. With the removal of Palpatine and the election of a new chancellor the emergency powers were removed.

Now there is one BIG thing you have forgotten about. The senate was attacked, hundreds of senators were slaughtered, and the building was destroyed. This will do many things. The first of which is that it will cause major disorganization in the Republic. However, the BIGGEST issue is that MANY systems will have lost faith in the Republic and Jedi - the homeworld was attacked so easily and the Jedi were helpless to stop it.

The power DOES lie in the executive. I do not recall roleplaying the removal of emergency powers.

So what if hundreds of senators were slaughtered? The building destroyed? Such has happened before, and then, it only strengthened the resolve of ALL Republic residents.

EDIT: Also,

The Death Star was not originally designed to house the Superlaser, it was added onto the designs later.

And even the one in Episode VI had been being constructed for FIVE YEARS.

The power DOES lie in the executive. I do not recall roleplaying the removal of emergency powers.

So what if hundreds of senators were slaughtered? The building destroyed? Such has happened before, and then, it only strengthened the resolve of ALL Republic residents.

EDIT: Also,

The Death Star was not originally designed to house the Superlaser, it was added onto the designs later.

And even the one in Episode VI had been being constructed for FIVE YEARS.

I recall it happening. Hmm... let me think. Perhaps it is when the JEDI WERE ARRESTING PALPATINE.

You just completely ignored my main point. I even said it was my main point - go back and read it.

You miss my point. The Sith OCCUPIED Coruscant at least once during the New Sith Wars. Even previously, they had slaughtered the ENTIRE Senate and killed the Supreme Chancellor, and the Republic only redoubled it's resolve to defeat them.

And the Jedi arresting Palpatine doesn't make it an Act of Congress. The Senate has to remove emergency powers, NOT the Jedi. The Jedi can only change the PERSON with those powers.

You miss my point. The Sith OCCUPIED Coruscant at least once during the New Sith Wars. Even previously, they had slaughtered the ENTIRE Senate and killed the Supreme Chancellor, and the Republic only redoubled it's resolve to defeat them.

And the Jedi arresting Palpatine doesn't make it an Act of Congress. The Senate has to remove emergency powers, NOT the Jedi. The Jedi can only change the PERSON with those powers.

*sigh*

The systems of the galaxy are already losing faith in the republic and Jedi, because of their inability to stop the Separtist movement and threat. Now that the Separtists have struck at the most protected planet in the galaxy and slaughtered hundreds of people... you think that will make them more secure? That is some crazy logic.

*sigh*

The systems of the galaxy are already losing faith in the republic and Jedi, because of their inability to stop the Separtist movement and threat. Now that the Separtists have struck at the most protected planet in the galaxy and slaughtered hundreds of people... you think that will make them more secure? That is some crazy logic.

They HAVE been able to stop it. The Seps have been on the run for over a year. The Second Battle of Coruscant went on for a week, ending in a massive Republic victory, most of the droid army has been destroyed over the two-year war. The Banking Clan, one of the major members of the Separatists, have been totally destroyed. If anything, the attack on the Senate would look like a cowardly attempt to stop the Republic, which will only cause the opposite of what the Seps are attempting.

Did the bombing of Parliament slow the British in World War II? Heck No! It strengthened Britain's resolve to defeat Nazi Germany.

Did the fire-bombing of Dresden force Nazi Germany into defeat? NO! The Nazis fought to the very last man, BECAUSE of that.

EDIT: Did Pearl Harbor deter America from entering the War? NO! "Remember Pearl Harbor" became the Battle-cry!

Did the taking of Washington, DC slow the US in 1813? NO! If it had, there would be no US.

Did the artillery hitting Washington slow the Union? NO! I don't notice there being a CSA.

EDIT2: I know it is illogical, but it is with historical precedent.

They HAVE been able to stop it. The Seps have been on the run for over a year. The Second Battle of Coruscant went on for a week, ending in a massive Republic victory, most of the droid army has been destroyed over the two-year war. The Banking Clan, one of the major members of the Separatists, have been totally destroyed. If anything, the attack on the Senate would look like a cowardly attempt to stop the Republic, which will only cause the opposite of what the Seps are attempting.

Did the bombing of Parliament slow the British in World War II? Heck No! It strengthened Britain's resolve to defeat Nazi Germany.

Did the fire-bombing of Dresden force Nazi Germany into defeat? NO! The Nazis fought to the very last man, BECAUSE of that.

EDIT: Did Pearl Harbor deter America from entering the War? NO! "Remember Pearl Harbor" became the Battle-cry!

Did the taking of Washington, DC slow the US in 1813? NO! If it had, there would be no US.

Did the artillery hitting Washington slow the Union? NO! I don't notice there being a CSA.

There is a major difference in your analogies compared to the situation at hand. The Senate is not made up of one people or nation... it is thousands of systems that have no nationalism to cling to.

The fact of the matter is that people ARE losing faith in the Jedi and Republic.

Since you are continuing to sound like a broken record, I am done arguing with you - you are just completely ignoring the reality of the situation and instead going with "Good guys will win because they are the good guy!"

Did you totally ignore me?

There IS Nationalism. The Republic has lasted for 25000 years and stood, strong. There is most certainly a nationalistic element there.

If there is no Nationalism for the Republic, then how is there nationalism for the Empire less than a few years later?

I'm not saying that "Good Guys always win" I know very well that they do not. The Republic would have won the war, whether Darth Sideous had declared it an Empire or not. The Republic BECAME the bad-guys.

Did you totally ignore me?

There IS Nationalism. The Republic has lasted for 25000 years and stood, strong. There is most certainly a nationalistic element there.

If there is no Nationalism for the Republic, then how is there nationalism for the Empire less than a few years later?

I'm not saying that "Good Guys always win" I know very well that they do not. The Republic would have won the war, whether Darth Sideous had declared it an Empire or not. The Republic BECAME the bad-guys.

the Nationalism was made because Sidious is a master mind. had he not done what he did, there would have been far less nationalism.


still as i see it the Jedi could still launch a major asault on the DS and without Sidious the Seps would be very weakend

Did you totally ignore me?

There IS Nationalism. The Republic has lasted for 25000 years and stood, strong. There is most certainly a nationalistic element there.

If there is no Nationalism for the Republic, then how is there nationalism for the Empire less than a few years later?

I'm not saying that "Good Guys always win" I know very well that they do not. The Republic would have won the war, whether Darth Sideous had declared it an Empire or not. The Republic BECAME the bad-guys.

You obviously don't know what nationalism is. It is born out of something that you have physically in common, such as language, culture, race, etc.

The republic has none of those. It is like the UN. There is no nationalism towards the UN.


Please, for the last time stop spelling Sidious' name wrong.

The republic only won the war because Sidious wanted it too...

Here I must agree with DMG. There is no nationalism in the Republic, and there also wasn't much more in the Empire, and the only reason that was there was because the Empire had almost complete control of the media, as where the Republic has to let everyone publish whatever they want as they are a Republic. There was resentment against the Jedi and the Republic even as far back as KotOR, when they were fighting aggressors, instead of fighting a group that was "just" trying to stop being part of the Republic. Look at Onderon in KotOR II, many of the people were saying that they needed more offworld oil and that they should become islolationist at the same time. Disliking the Republic and the Jedi does not have to be rational, just as much as love, hate, fear, etc, has to be rational.

The Droid army also doesn't have to fight to the death as they did in the movies. In many ways it would be best for them to just retreat into the Unknown regions, make more droids, and come back when the Republic isn't prepared. New droids were being made with increased individualism and weaponry through the clone wars, so while the Republic was steadily losing troops and the droids were too, the droids were becoming more and more effective. Dark Troopers in the Rebellion-Empire war were extremely effective before they were decommisioned, and they were demommisioned for no fault of theirs.

Oh, and I am not the person who posted earlier.

EDIT: And the Republic did not stand strong for that amount of time, they were extremely close to being wiped out in the Jedi Civil War and the Mandalorian war.

And now for me to jump in! *Cue lightning strike*

I think I said something about backlash against the Jedi before with this attack on the Senate a ways back. There's gonna be a lot of fear, since the main body of the Republic, and the Chancellor, got captured. The fact that the Jedi would take over isn't...comforting.

The Death Star...I don't neccessarily have a problem with it being incomplete but operational. It'd be a whole other story if it their weren't any flaws in it at all, I.E., it could fend off a fleet, it could fire it's superlaser repeatedly, and it could travel from one side of the universe to another.

And now for me to jump in! *Cue lightning strike*

I think I said something about backlash against the Jedi before with this attack on the Senate a ways back. There's gonna be a lot of fear, since the main body of the Republic, and the Chancellor, got captured. The fact that the Jedi would take over isn't...comforting.

The Death Star...I don't neccessarily have a problem with it being incomplete but operational. It'd be a whole other story if it their weren't any flaws in it at all, I.E., it could fend off a fleet, it could fire it's superlaser repeatedly, and it could travel from one side of the universe to another.

Agreed on both accounts.

In my talks with Kraven, I think that is precisely what he meant. It is operational, meaning it can fire its main weapon, but it is in no way complete.

...When he landed, he defended herself against a quick cut...

He defended herself? :D


edit: BTW, you better hope that none of the council members find out about the duel.

lol.

It's not like Quinlan actually STARTED the duel...

I still must insist that it is NOT operational because the Superlaser has yet to be invented.

I still must insist that it is NOT operational because the Superlaser has yet to be invented.

Yes, it was- it just wasn't OPERATIONAL. Palpatine had the 501st steal parts for it on Mygeeto.

That was a contradictory statement. It had previously been established that it was GRAND MOFF TARKIN (a rank which does not even exist yet) who developed the idea for the superlaser, and then it was developed by Bevel Lemelisk at the Maw Installation.

The Death Star was not intended to have a superlaser in the original design.

heh...look at the holo of the DS in AotC, it has a Superlaser enplacement. i can't think of any other reason for it to be there...

That was a contradictory statement. It had previously been established that it was GRAND MOFF TARKIN (a rank which does not even exist yet) who developed the idea for the superlaser, and then it was developed by Bevel Lemelisk at the Maw Installation.

The Death Star was not intended to have a superlaser in the original design.

Actually, the DSP did have a superlaser. It was a steel frame with a reactor core, a superlaser, engines and a control room

*Shrugs*

It's gonna have the superlaser. You'll just have to live with it, I guess.

the following statments are taken from Wookieepedia

In 29 BBY, he(Tarkin) presented Palpatine with Raith Sienar's plans for a moon-sized battle station


The idea(of the Superlaser) was later realized by Bevel Lemelisk, as well as by Geonosian weapons engineers.

EDIT:

Actually, the DSP did have a superlaser. It was a steel frame with a reactor core, a superlaser, engines and a control room

very true...

If the majority of the RP is willing to accept that the Death Star has an operational (though not perfect or at full capacity) super laser... than it does. [It makes for a better RP anyway]. Since only one person has objected to having it thus far, I am going to say that it exists in the RP.

I guess this is why they're writing that specialised book about the Death Star for next year...it's so confusing because there are so many contradictory sources.

Alright, fine. It is operational, just not yet FULLY operational (ie, able to destroy a planet) nor perfectly working.

Cool, for me the Death Star had to be made sometime after the Clone Wars for in the movie it seemed that the Clone Wars were done but the DS had only the barest image of what it was. Saying it wouldn't be active for quite sometime, but hey, that will be on my side. So no objections.

I guess this is why they're writing that specialised book about the Death Star for next year...it's so confusing because there are so many contradictory sources.

Alright, fine. It is operational, just not yet FULLY operational (ie, able to destroy a planet) nor perfectly working.

I am not sure why you are emphasizing "fully"... we all already said that and agreed on that...

Cool, for me the Death Star had to be made sometime after the Clone Wars for in the movie it seemed that the Clone Wars were done but the DS had only the barest image of what it was. Saying it wouldn't be active for quite sometime, but hey, that will be on my side. So no objections.

That "barest image" that you speak of is exactly what it would look like in the end. The Death Star Prototype was never meant to look complete... it was only to see if the superlaser could be built and operational. Meaning that when it was finished, it would still look like that frame you see in the movie.

i dont think it looked operational in RotS but ill play along. Sorry for not posting a lot I'm really busy.

where is Yoda, i want Cin to talk to him.

i dont think it looked operational in RotS but ill play along. Sorry for not posting a lot I'm really busy.

where is Yoda, i want Cin to talk to him.

The end of the Death Star Prototype is only supposed to look like a frame (as it did in RotS).

Yoda is in the Council Chambers with the other council members. (I think Cin was chosen to be a council member... so he should be there already...)

Yeah, well it seems that a lot of Jedi are out of a job, if any feel like it they could go and help the floundering Republic forces on Bespin.

Yeah, well it seems that a lot of Jedi are out of a job, if any feel like it they could go and help the floundering Republic forces on Bespin.

Umm... the Jedi are about to start a major offensive against the Death Star (though it is unknown)... I think they have a job.

Yeah, well it seems that a lot of Jedi are out of a job, if any feel like it they could go and help the floundering Republic forces on Bespin.

after the meeting i plan on having Secura send reenforsments

Umm... the Jedi are about to start a major offensive against the Death Star (though it is unknown)... I think they have a job.

Sure, talking to each other:rolleyes: , well at least someone knows when to take action....
After the meeting i plan on having Secura send reenforsments

Yeah, well it seems that a lot of Jedi are out of a job, if any feel like it they could go and help the floundering Republic forces on Bespin.
For any Jedi without a job, just go out and attack a Seppie planet.

And going back to the Death Star, I think it should be operational just for the point of having a challenge for the too-successful (sp?) Republic forces.

For any Jedi without a job, just go out and attack a Seppie planet.

And going back to the Death Star, I think it should be operational just for the point of having a challenge for the too-successful (sp?) Republic forces.

That was part of my point...

(If we were to RP this exactly how it would go based on the situation at hand when the Palpatine was about to take control... the Republic would utterly destroy the Separtists... just as Sidious planned it.)

The CIS could consolidate remaining forces amongst the Death Star as a protective shield...sort of like the Imperial fleet protected Byss. Remaining consolidations could distract Reublic forces as the Death Star did it's work.

Hm...so when does the great whappo-zappo battle commence?

ok so here is my current worked out list of possible bad guys for a Jedi/Republic win. some depend on what happens in this current RP. and if no one has a problem with any of them.

Thrawn(if none have a problem with Gethzerion having the said vision)

Dark Force:
Kadann
Jedgar
Boc Aseca
Arden Lyn(if none have a problem with her being awakened and joining the Dark Force)
Asajj Ventress(if none have a problem with her somehow joining the Dark Force)

Nightsisters:
Gethzerion
Shabell
Baritha
Ocheron

Mandalorians:
Spar
Fenn Shysa
Boba Fett
Rav Barlor
Tobbi Dala
Cort Davin
Kal Skirata
Walon Vau

EDIT: not sure if anyone cares ATM...

EDIT: not sure if anyone cares ATM...

Heh. Nope :D

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Well I do! Since it seems the Seppies are not on the list. Well then I have dibs on Grand Admiral Thrawn!

Well I do! Since it seems the Seppies are not on the list. Well then I have dibs on Grand Admiral Thrawn!

Would Thrawn be a Grand Admiral? I mean since at this moment it looks like the Empire is going to killed in it infancy.

Would Thrawn be a Grand Admiral? I mean since at this moment it looks like the Empire is going to killed in it infancy.

Most likely he wouldn't be a GA as the GAs weren't created until later (the Empire was never even started in this version).

Maybe Thrawn and Gilad Pellaeon can have a space battle. Here is Pellaeon for those you don't know.

http://starwars.wikicities.com/wiki/Gilad_Pellaeon

Here is part of my favorite star wars book and my favorite character.

Maybe Thrawn and Gilad Pellaeon can have a space battle. Here is Pellaeon for those you don't know.

http://starwars.wikicities.com/wiki/Gilad_Pellaeon

Here is part of my favorite star wars book and my favorite character.
I think Thrawn would crush Pellaeon though...he was far more the tactical genious.

Enough damn talk about what happens after the RP - focus on now!

Enough damn talk about what happens after the RP - focus on now!

what DMG said. but as a final note.

the CIS could be invalved. depends on what people want. Asajj Ventress could be on either the CIS or Dark Force as well. Thrawn would not be a GA but would still have his normal skills. and Pellaeon would be something like a Captain along with Lorth Needa under Jan Dodonna's command. i would expect they would both get promoted after battles with Thrawn however...

Didn't Ventress die in the Clone Wars? (When Anakin chased her down and they dueled)

not in her bio on Wookieepedia. it says

only to be dealt a mortal wound by Anakin. Before Kenobi put her on a ship to Coruscant, as she lay dying, she told him the location of the Separatists' next target and let go of her anger and rage.

However, Ventress did not die, placing herself in a Sith trance, and while on the shuttle, emerged from her trance, and ordered the pilots to take her as far away as possible from the war, Dooku, and the Jedi


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heh depending on how this RP turns out Leia and Luke could have the last name Amidala not Skywalker...

not in her bio on Wookieepedia. it says

only to be dealt a mortal wound by Anakin. Before Kenobi put her on a ship to Coruscant, as she lay dying, she told him the location of the Separatists' next target and let go of her anger and rage.

However, Ventress did not die, placing herself in a Sith trance, and while on the shuttle, emerged from her trance, and ordered the pilots to take her as far away as possible from the war, Dooku, and the Jedi


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heh depending on how this RP turns out Leia and Luke could have the last name Amidala not Skywalker...

Ah, I see. Perhaps that happens in the Clone Wars Part 2. (or otherwise I am just remembering wrong).

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Yeh - that would be funny!

hmmm i wish i has seen this sooner...in Khaleens Bio it says

The two eventually fell in love, despite the protestations of Vos' former apprentice, Aayla Secura.

and it mentions Secura finding out about this in Quinlan's Bio to...

hmmm i wish i has seen this sooner...in Khaleens Bio it says



and it mentions Secura finding out about this in Quinlan's Bio to...

heheh... smooth. Doesn't really affect anything (certainly not the plot) and nobody noticed it before anyway.

we will just ignore that for this RP then, simply because of what we have done with it alreaddy.

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i just though of something we might add to the Second RP...here it is

After the war with the Confederacy ended the Republic was weak, they needed the stability provided by the Jedi and the Moffs once the Senate regained order they decided to disalve the moffs power. most stepped down, but some rebeled and launched several offences against the Senate controled Republic. fighting for years the moffs where slowly pushed back. by 14 BBY only a few remained trying to hold on to thier power...

at this point the moffs would end up as possible allies to Kadann and his group or just another group that fights for power

at this point the moffs would end up as possible allies to Kadann and his group or just another group that fights for power

Yep - another viable possibility for the RP (if it indeed goes that way).

if it goes the other way mind helping me make the story? as far as i have gotten it basiclly this...

Sidious takes over the Galaxy through the Confederacy, as the Republic has fallen apart thanks to him and he can not senter the Confederacy to himself(to many different branches and if he killed the leader they would just vote new leaders in) the Jedi are scatered, either running, in hiding or trying to fight back...

i don't really know how to work with a Sith victory and have given it far less thought then a Jedi victory

if it goes the other way mind helping me make the story? as far as i have gotten it basiclly this...

Sidious takes over the Galaxy through the Confederacy, as the Republic has fallen apart thanks to him and he can not senter the Confederacy to himself(to many different branches and if he killed the leader they would just vote new leaders in) the Jedi are scatered, either running, in hiding or trying to fight back...

i don't really know how to work with a Sith victory and have given it far less thought then a Jedi victory

My first thought would be to make it a rebellion RP (like the original trilogy), as well as having the few scattered Jedi left attempting to reunite.


((And I would be happy to help with making the story))

if it goes the other way mind helping me make the story? as far as i have gotten it basiclly this...

Sidious takes over the Galaxy through the Confederacy, as the Republic has fallen apart thanks to him and he can not senter the Confederacy to himself(to many different branches and if he killed the leader they would just vote new leaders in) the Jedi are scatered, either running, in hiding or trying to fight back...

i don't really know how to work with a Sith victory and have given it far less thought then a Jedi victory
Just begin the Galactic Empire...

My first thought would be to make it a rebellion RP (like the original trilogy), as well as having the few scattered Jedi left attempting to reunite.


((And I would be happy to help with making the story))

that works...would we keep it at the timeline of 14 BBY or around 0 BBY?

that works...would we keep it at the timeline of 14 BBY or around 0 BBY?

Earlier would work fine, because the rebels could have some of the old forces of the Republic (which they couldn't have in the movies). So, they would be more prepared to start a serious rebellion earlier in time... (and more Jedis)

I'll go with 14 BBY then as it would be easier for me to fit my charicters up, as i can use most of the ones i have in my list for a Jedi victory...

Well...it seems more like there will be a Republic victory and never be a Galactic Empire.

Well...it seems more like there will be a Republic victory and never be a Galactic Empire.

Appearances can be decieving - the same was true in the movies... and well... we all know how that turned out.

Hm...the future's always clouded. So far, I see a mixed victory. Republic forces defeat the Sith Lord, the Death Star is destroyed, but, Anakin is in danger. And while we all may have various feelings about him, Anakin IS the Chosen One, as much as he doesn't deserve to be(See my love for him?).

Hm...the future's always clouded. So far, I see a mixed victory. Republic forces defeat the Sith Lord, the Death Star is destroyed, but, Anakin is in danger. And while we all may have various feelings about him, Anakin IS the Chosen One, as much as he doesn't deserve to be(See my love for him?).

There is debate on what the Chosen One supposed to do... if you remember what Yoda says ("A prophecy that misread, could have been.")

Anywhoo... there is no telling that Sidious will remain with the Death Star. He could simply take all of his forces and leave (with Anakin possibly as his apprentice or beginning to fall to the Dark Side) and then rise again.

There is debate on what the Chosen One supposed to do... if you remember what Yoda says ("A prophecy that misread, could have been.")

Anywhoo... there is no telling that Sidious will remain with the Death Star. He could simply take all of his forces and leave (with Anakin possibly as his apprentice or beginning to fall to the Dark Side) and then rise again.

True. The prophecy doesn't state the Sith and all Dark Sider need to be utterly purged- just that balance MUST be maintained. Since nobody knows exactly what to do, the Jed ijust assume (rightly so) that the Sith, who coincidentally appeared the same time Anakin is discovered, must be destroyed.

And on a random tangent...see, I hate to give Quinlan anything but a hard timesince he's dead wrong here, but there are precedents for Jedi caught with their pants down, I.E., Ranik Solusar, A Jedi Master "disciplined" for fathering a son, Kam Solusar (Later a memberof the New Jedi Order). Found it on Wookiepedia.

True. The prophecy doesn't state the Sith and all Dark Sider need to be utterly purged- just that balance MUST be maintained. Since nobody knows exactly what to do, the Jed ijust assume (rightly so) that the Sith, who coincidentally appeared the same time Anakin is discovered, must be destroyed.

And on a random tangent...see, I hate to give Quinlan anything but a hard timesince he's dead wrong here, but there are precedents for Jedi caught with their pants down, I.E., Ranik Solusar, A Jedi Master "disciplined" for fathering a son, Kam Solusar (Later a memberof the New Jedi Order). Found it on Wookiepedia.

There isn't much on him and it is kind of vague.... the context surrounding the fathering of his child is unknown.


I also would like to point out one of the main points of RotS that Yoda sums up in a short sentence: "The fear of loss is a path to the Dark Side."

There isn't much on him and it is kind of vague.... the context surrounding the fathering of his child is unknown.


I also would like to point out one of the main points of RotS that Yoda sums up in a short sentence: "The fear of loss is a path to the Dark Side."

I know it's kinda shadowy, but notice, he wasn't expelled, but rather, "disclipined". I'll leave that up to interpretation.

As for Yoda's point...it is a good point, but Quinlan isn't quite as unstable as Anakin in terms. Granted, he has done bad things during the Clone Wars, but he was, As he saids, "Deep in the shadows." He was already on the line between darkness and light. Now, he's firmly on the Light Side, so he would probably be horribly depressed if something happened to his wife and child, but he wouldn't take Anakin's methods of venting his anger, I.E., massacreing large amounts of people and cutting off heads and limbs.

I know it's kinda shadowy, but notice, he wasn't expelled, but rather, "disclipined". I'll leave that up to interpretation.

As for Yoda's point...it is a good point, but Quinlan isn't quite as unstable as Anakin in terms. Granted, he has done bad things during the Clone Wars, but he was, As he saids, "Deep in the shadows." He was already on the line between darkness and light. Now, he's firmly on the Light Side, so he would probably be horribly depressed if something happened to his wife and child, but he wouldn't take Anakin's methods of venting his anger, I.E., massacreing large amounts of people and cutting off heads and limbs.
You can't always be so sure, though...if he's fallen once, he could do so again.

I know it's kinda shadowy, but notice, he wasn't expelled, but rather, "disclipined". I'll leave that up to interpretation.

As for Yoda's point...it is a good point, but Quinlan isn't quite as unstable as Anakin in terms. Granted, he has done bad things during the Clone Wars, but he was, As he saids, "Deep in the shadows." He was already on the line between darkness and light. Now, he's firmly on the Light Side, so he would probably be horribly depressed if something happened to his wife and child, but he wouldn't take Anakin's methods of venting his anger, I.E., massacreing large amounts of people and cutting off heads and limbs.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions...

(And AB makes a good point.)

I'm telling you two, Quinlan won't ever fall to the Dark Side. He has too much at stake to risk it. Also, when he fell to the Dark Side, he did was already on a thin edge. The situation is completely reversed.

Quinlan is firmly on the Jedi's side. He proved that on Salucami.

I'm telling you two, Quinlan won't ever fall to the Dark Side. He has too much at stake to risk it. Also, when he fell to the Dark Side, he did was already on a thin edge. The situation is completely reversed.

Quinlan is firmly on the Jedi's side. He proved that on Salucami.

*sigh*

We aren't objecting OOCly... we are ICly. We know you have no intention of making him turn to the Dark Side, but the Council can't possibly know that 100%.

Turning to the Dark Side is one of the main risks in attachments - something Quinland already professed was more important than anything.

Hypothetical situtation: What would happen if a clan of Jawas killed Khalleen and his son? He has such a strong emotional tie already that he could very possibly go Anakin on them.

*sigh*

We aren't objecting OOCly... we are ICly. We know you have no intention of making him turn to the Dark Side, but the Council can't possibly know that 100%.

Turning to the Dark Side is one of the main risks in attachments - something Quinland already professed was more important than anything.

Hypothetical situtation: What would happen if a clan of Jawas killed Khalleen and his son? He has such a strong emotional tie already that he could very possibly go Anakin on them.

Heh, sorry bout that.

Hmm...good question. If a clan of Jawas killed Khaleen and Korto, Quinlan would probably attack the Jawas responsible. There's a very fine line between righteous rage, and the bloodlust Anakin felt. He killed women and children.

And yet aother random tangent: Yoda REALLY doesn't like Quinlan, does he? :p

Heh, sorry bout that.

Hmm...good question. If a clan of Jawas killed Khaleen and Korto, Quinlan would probably attack the Jawas responsible. There's a very fine line between righteous rage, and the bloodlust Anakin felt. He killed women and children.

And yet aother random tangent: Yoda REALLY doesn't like Quinlan, does he? :p

With someone's background like Quinlan, I wouldn't be surprised if he started slaughtering the entire village... a la Anakin.

Yoda is pretty much the epitome of the Jedi... something Quinlan isn't.

Hm...but he doesn't seem to hate Anakin, though...

Hm...but he doesn't seem to hate Anakin, though...

Anakin was young and inexperienced.

You will, however, remember that Yoda was against even letting Anakin be trained.

Eh. Time will tell all, methinks. Now... it seems the stage is set for the final battle, winner take all. Is this gonna be just a space battle?

Eh. Time will tell all, methinks. Now... it seems the stage is set for the final battle, winner take all. Is this gonna be just a space battle?

It is really Kraven's decision of whether it is the final battle or not, so I wouldn't jump to any conclusions. He still, as I pointed out before, has the possibility of simply pulling out all of his forces and hiding somewhere else in the immense galaxy.

hmmm...just making a list of Senators and came up with this question

by 14 BBY might Kamino join the Republic? and who would there senator be? Taun We?

hmmm...just making a list of Senators and came up with this question

by 14 BBY might Kamino join the Republic? and who would there senator be? Taun We?

Hmm... good question. We could decide ourselves based on the events that happen in this RP.

I'd say a space and land battle, like landing on enemy ships, fighting both on and off the Death Star.

Yeah, that sounds about good. BTW, some people should stay back on Coruscant, just to be safe.

Yeah, that sounds about good. BTW, some people should stay back on Coruscant, just to be safe.
Yoda I think already is.

Yeh, Yoda is. And there are several other hundred Jedi there...

I know Yoda's there, but maybe another Council member stay behind. And homeworld Security Command block of the Senate District (think that's the district the Temple's in)to everyone except who's supposed to be there. Or some uber strict security measure.

I know Yoda's there, but maybe another Council member stay behind. And homeworld Security Command block of the Senate District (think that's the district the Temple's in)to everyone except who's supposed to be there. Or some uber strict security measure.

Much of the Council is staying behind... don't forget about all of the NPC council members...

the council member that will remain as of the Council meeting include

Yoda
Stass Allie
Shaak Ti
Luminara Unduli
Coleman Kcaj
Pablo-Jill
Cin Drallig
Plo Koon

unless otherwise stated




i assume we will be taking some none council members on the attack? i guess thats up to whomever is RPing in the attack...

the council member that will remain as of the Council meeting include

Yoda
Stass Allie
Shaak Ti
Luminara Unduli
Coleman Kcaj
Pablo-Jill
Cin Drallig
Plo Koon

unless otherwise stated




i assume we will be taking some none council members on the attack? i guess thats up to whomever is RPing in the attack...

Yeh... that is over half (2/3 actually) that is staying behind - I don't think we need more than that.

However, after thinking about it for a minute, I think one or two of the NPC council members should go as well (along with their forces) to fight the Separtists. If nobody objects, I am going to make a post with two of them volunteering to go.

I know Yoda's there, but maybe another Council member stay behind. And homeworld Security Command block of the Senate District (think that's the district the Temple's in)to everyone except who's supposed to be there. Or some uber strict security measure.

The Jedi Temple is not in the Senate District. It is at the center of the Temple District, but yes, I agree. The Temple District should be blocked off (the problem is that thousands of people live WITHIN the district, there are also factories, etc. so it'll be harder than that, probably just blocking off the Temple and the area around the Temple.

We need to get the ball rolling on this...

Kraven needs to post about his actions and if you are a council member, start preparing for the war.

Yeh... that is over half (2/3 actually) that is staying behind - I don't think we need more than that.

However, after thinking about it for a minute, I think one or two of the NPC council members should go as well (along with their forces) to fight the Separtists. If nobody objects, I am going to make a post with two of them volunteering to go.
I would send Stass Allie and Shaak Ti...they seem to be some of the most capable left.

Will be having a post up shortly, so don't despair people!

Yeah.... Sorry for making myself scarce but what happened?

Well the jedi are planning to attack the death star. Quinlan is being accepted back into the Jedi, but Obi-Wan and Secura have to look over him. Also Moorington are space battle is still happening.

Well the jedi are planning to attack the death star. Quinlan is being accepted back into the Jedi, but Obi-Wan and Secura have to look over him. Also Moorington are space battle is still happening.

Why do people keep saying Quinlan was let back into the Jedi [Order]? He was never kicked out...

Why do people keep saying Quinlan was let back into the Jedi [Order]? He was never kicked out...
Probaly because he still had a trial revolving his affairs.

Probaly because he still had a trial revolving his affairs.

I know, but he would only be out of the Order if the Council decided to kick him out after the trial/hearing/discussion.

I know, but he would only be out of the Order if the Council decided to kick him out after the trial/hearing/discussion.
That's true, I guess you could say Quinlan was "exonerated" from his crime. Or something to that sort.

That's true, I guess you could say Quinlan was "exonerated" from his crime. Or something to that sort.

Not really. Exonerated would mean they didn't blame him. They blamed him and felt he went against his duty, but they didn't think that he should be kicked out of the Order for it.

He is effectively on probation.

Does that mean he can't drink alcohol? :p

Does that mean he can't drink alcohol? :p

Only if your limited interpertation/understanding of the word probation means "not able to drink alcohol."

Thank you for that un-needed post.

Funny how you say it was unneeded and yet you guys couldn't understand how to RP.

as i remember we are still in the Council chamber are we not? but unless anyone has something against it i would like to consider the meeting over and our people are preparing to leave and such

as i remember we are still in the Council chamber are we not? but unless anyone has something against it i would like to consider the meeting over and our people are preparing to leave and such

Yes, we (most of us) are in the council chamber, but Yoda has just declared the meeting over and the Jedi should begin preparing to launch their strike.

Only if your limited interpertation/understanding of the word probation means "not able to drink alcohol."

There is no reason to insult, it was a joke. :confused:

Kraven, I still need your response to Aurra Sing's transmission.

anyone mind if we get going after the DS now?

i have developed some questions that need answering before the second RP can go on and i'm hoping posting it now might add activity to the current one...other questons will be added later if they come up and many could be answered in this very RP.

what will Luke and Leia's last name be?
the Younglings from AOTC could be padawans of other Jedi, if so who?
many of the Padawans of this time could be Knights, witch ones should be?
should Arden Lyn be awakened or left asleep so as to have an enamy in a possible third RP?
will the CIS survive the war?
who will Asajj Ventress be allied with, the CIS or Dark Force?
should Lushros Dofine(former captain of the Invisable Hand) be gived the rank of Admiral in the CIS fleet?
at this time a new chancellor should have been elected, who will it be?
will Kamino join the Republic and if so should Taun We be the Senator?
what should Needa, Pellaeon, and Jag's(clone who killed Koon in the movies) ranks be?
being that the galaxy has been at conflict for another 5 years should ships like the X-wing, Nebulan-B Frigate, and DP-20 Corellian Gunship exist?

Pellaeon is currently Captian and should be Vice Admiral.

what will Luke and Leia's last name be?

I would think that they would be Skywalker...

depends it could end up being Amidala...


Pellaeon is currently Captian and should be Vice Admiral.




i do not think Pellaeon should be a Vice Admiral. i mean sure he is good and all but a Vice Admiral...it took him 20+ years to get his own ship and a few years and braking apart of the Imp fleet to get him to Vice Admiral

he isn't even really a Captain, based on how that was RPed he is more acting Captain. if he was suppost to make Captain i would ask you how he got so many promtions in such a short time, and how a Captain can promote someone to his own rank without asking anyone

anyone mind if we get going after the DS now?

i have developed some questions that need answering before the second RP can go on and i'm hoping posting it now might add activity to the current one...other questons will be added later if they come up and many could be answered in this very RP.

what will Luke and Leia's last name be?
the Younglings from AOTC could be padawans of other Jedi, if so who?
many of the Padawans of this time could be Knights, witch ones should be?
should Arden Lyn be awakened or left asleep so as to have an enamy in a possible third RP?
will the CIS survive the war?
who will Asajj Ventress be allied with, the CIS or Dark Force?
should Lushros Dofine(former captain of the Invisable Hand) be gived the rank of Admiral in the CIS fleet?
at this time a new chancellor should have been elected, who will it be?
will Kamino join the Republic and if so should Taun We be the Senator?
what should Needa, Pellaeon, and Jag's(clone who killed Koon in the movies) ranks be?
being that the galaxy has been at conflict for another 5 years should ships like the X-wing, Nebulan-B Frigate, and DP-20 Corellian Gunship exist?
My answers, like them or not...

Luke & Leia would be Skywalker, as Anakin hasn't gone bad on us
The Younglings could be padawans of anybody who really wants a padawan...I don't see why someone can't have one, though I must say the younger knights should probaly have first call on them.
Padawans now as knights? Yeah, some, probaly only the most advanced, though, since transferring from Padawan-Knight isn't easy.
I'll go with the enemy in a thrid RP...though I'd have to think a while on Lyn
Asajj Ventress with the CIS, as they need more characters.
Admiral, no. See what happens to the Invisable Hand...we could find other characters to become admirals who were more capable, probaly.
Bail Organa, or Mon Mothma. Very Charismatic people. Though Padme should still be involved with politics, I say, and should be an RPable character.
Kamino in the Republic? Those crazy secluded cloners?
Palleon should be a Captain. He's a Captain in RotJ under the Empire, and I think under the Republic he could really rise. Needa...hmm. Don't really know there, same with Jag.
X-Wing...no. Not yet. Maybe in development. The DP-20 and Neb-B, certainly. The Y-Wing too.

Could I join this or is it to late?

You would probaly have to wait for the next RP, Rothnia, seeing how we're close to wrapping it up...

okay, well as long as there is a next one.

You would probaly have to wait for the next RP, Rothnia, seeing how we're close to wrapping it up...

We can't actually know if we are... the CIS could abandon the DS and go into hiding.

My answers, like them or not...

I'll go with the enemy in a thrid RP...though I'd have to think a while on Lyn
Admiral, no. See what happens to the Invisable Hand...we could find other characters to become admirals who were more capable, probaly.
Palleon should be a Captain. He's a Captain in RotJ under the Empire, and I think under the Republic he could really rise. Needa...hmm. Don't really know there, same with Jag.

X-Wing...no. Not yet. Maybe in development. The DP-20 and Neb-B, certainly. The Y-Wing too.

how about Lyn with Beldorian and Taselda for the Force capable and to add a fleet Xizor(though he shouldn't even be a Vego or whatever they are called in black sun yet that may have changed with the alt history) and Durga the Hutt?

he is the best i could find, unless you think one of Nutes aids would be better...

i was thinking Needa and Pellaeon as captains and Jag as a commander

i know the Y-wing...only asked the others because they have no date pointing them to being used so far back. unlike the Y-Wing and the X-wing(though its newer though it might get made sooner do to more combat)

here is a list of new ships we will have access to

Imperator class SD(old name for the Imperial class)
Tector class SD
Lambda class shuttle
Sentinel class landing craft
Y-Wing
TIE-Fighter
and with what you say we should have the DP-20 Gunship and Nebulan-B Frigate

oh here is a new question

should the Jedi still be flying Eta-2's or not?

Eta-2s will be getting outdated, though they may still be in the Jedi Hanger inventory, as Plo Koon still flies an Aethersprite at Cato Nemoidia upon his death. But the main fighter would probaly be new.

If I am still alowed into the next RP, nice enough to ask, I would enjoy to be secluded Kamino, CIS was way to broad subject for me to cover well and I made enough mistakes all over that I am going to pick a very side-line organization in the future.

I'd probably either reprise my role as Ki-Adi-Mundi or switch to a different Jedi character were we to continue with a later RP.

I will continue my role as Yoda

"There is none..." came Aurra Sing's voice from behind as she fired off her blaster at Anakin.

Hold the phone! I thought she was on the Death Star with Palpatine? Is the Emporer on this ship?

Hold the phone! I thought she was on the Death Star with Palpatine? Is the Emporer on this ship?

Hmm... you have a good point.

Will edit.

Hmm... you have a good point.

Will edit.

Thanks DMG:cool:

Also Kraven are you going to answer for the dying trooper? Does he even know anything about the antidote?

Thanks DMG:cool:

Also Kraven are you going to answer for the dying trooper? Does he even know anything about the anitdote?

Kraven told me there was no antidote, so I assume the trooper would know the same.

I'd probably either reprise my role as Ki-Adi-Mundi or switch to a different Jedi character were we to continue with a later RP.
I'll continue with Mace Windu for the next RP if everyone's ok with that.

There is no Antidote and if it was, it wouldn't be on board, I may be an Evil Genius, but im not a Sterotypical one, I let you off with the man sized vents lolol :D

Perhaps Anakin will now go over the edge with rage... :D

Perhaps Anakin will now go over the edge with rage... :D

Hehehehehe :D

Perhaps Anakin will now go over the edge with rage... :D
I would like to see that.

I would like to see that.

It is quite possible that he will embrace the Dark Side, even if he doesn't think he is. His rage could over take him and he starts going berzerk...

It is quite possible that he will embrace the Dark Side, even if he doesn't think he is. His rage could over take him and he starts going berzerk...
Or beyond the dark side...turn into some wacko berzerker on the ship, that'd be a scary sight.

Tick... Tock.... Everything Fits Into Place..... Tick... Tock...

Or beyond the dark side...turn into some wacko berzerker on the ship, that'd be a scary sight.

And then it becomes a ghost ship!!!

posted the troopers response

anyone mind if we get going after the DS now?: As long as Coruscant is secure, I'm down with it.

i have developed some questions that need answering before the second RP can go on and i'm hoping posting it now might add activity to the current one...other questons will be added later if they come up and many could be answered in this very RP.

what will Luke and Leia's last name be?: Skywalker, If Anakin and Padme escapes. And if they escape, but things go to the pot, hide them and change the names.

the Younglings from AOTC could be padawans of other Jedi, if so who?: Not sure. If worst comes to worst, just make up some names.

many of the Padawans of this time could be Knights, witch ones should be?: Whie, a Padawan rivaled only in power by Anakin, comes to mind.

should Arden Lyn be awakened or left asleep so as to have an enamy in a possible third RP?: Intriguing. I think she should.

will the CIS survive the war?: In all likly-hood, probably not. I hope that after all this, the CIS will sit down with the Republic and work out a deal lik the Remnant did.

who will Asajj Ventress be allied with, the CIS or Dark Force?: Knowing Ventress, who ever would let her kill Jedi. Probably Dark Force.

should Lushros Dofine(former captain of the Invisable Hand) be gived the rank of Admiral in the CIS fleet?: Hehe. Methinks not...

at this time a new chancellor should have been elected, who will it be?: Bail.

will Kamino join the Republic and if so should Taun We be the Senator?: They'd need a really, really good deal to go into the Republic, or threatened to do so.

what should Needa, Pellaeon, and Jag's(clone who killed Koon in the movies) ranks be?: I see Needa and Pellaeon to be rising stars. Jagged Fel isn't gonna be around for a couple decades.

being that the galaxy has been at conflict for another 5 years should ships like the X-wing, Nebulan-B Frigate, and DP-20 Corellian Gunship exist?: *Thinks hard* Well, I suppose...

A comment about the twins, Luke and Leia: It would seem that they are never going to exist in the second RP - they are about to die with Padme (as their is no cure and a near zero percent chance of saving her).

I was thinking that too, but then I figured Anakin's resourceful enough to find a way to keep her alive long enough to deliver the twins. Babies have been delivered in nearly the same circumstance.

I hope, partly because it's a long-standing belief that parents should never outlive their children by any stretch of time, and a sequel would be...weird without a Skywalker somewhere in the mix.

Jagged Fel isn't gonna be around for a couple decades.

what? i am talking about Captain Jag of the Clone army, he shoots down Plo Koon in ROTS. he used to be a Commander but was demoted(can't remember why)

I was thinking that too, but then I figured Anakin's resourceful enough to find a way to keep her alive long enough to deliver the twins. Babies have been delivered in nearly the same circumstance.

I hope, partly because it's a long-standing belief that parents should never outlive their children by any stretch of time, and a sequel would be...weird without a Skywalker somewhere in the mix.

Well he doesn't have much time... she is going to die in about twenty minutes and Aurra Sing is about to attack him... Padme and the twins are screwed.

Anakin would still be there (possibly).

I was thinking that too, but then I figured Anakin's resourceful enough to find a way to keep her alive long enough to deliver the twins. Babies have been delivered in nearly the same circumstance.

I hope, partly because it's a long-standing belief that parents should never outlive their children by any stretch of time, and a sequel would be...weird without a Skywalker somewhere in the mix.

ah yes, i do hope i kids live...

Well he doesn't have much time... she is going to die in about twenty minutes and Aurra Sing is about to attack him... Padme and the twins are screwed.

Anakin would still be there (possibly).

There was a similiar case like this later on, when Mara Jade contracts a virus, and Luke (Possibly with the spirit of Obi-Wan to help out) later purges it from her system, and she's able to deliver a healty baby boy.

I'd suggest Anakin put Padme in some sort of sleep *reads post again*...eh.
And, since Anakin apparently has some healing skills, do what he can to slow the toxin's effects, long enough for Padme to deliver the babies. I'm of the opinion that Luke and Leia were born a bit before they were supposed to be, do to the stress Padme was going through. Then open a can of whoop-ass on Aurra Sing...

There was a similiar case like this later on, when Mara Jade contracts a virus, and Luke (Possibly with the spirit of Obi-Wan to help out) later purges it from her system, and she's able to deliver a healty baby boy.

I'd suggest Anakin put Padme in some sort of sleep *reads post again*...eh.
And, since Anakin apparently has some healing skills, do what he can to slow the toxin's effects, long enough for Padme to deliver the babies. I'm of the opinion that Luke and Leia were born a bit before they were supposed to be, do to the stress Padme was going through. Then open a can of whoop-ass on Aurra Sing...

Or Aurra Sing could just cut her head off.

*Blinks* :eek:

Hmm...she can try, methinks.

*Blinks* :eek:

Hmm...she can try, methinks.

Anakin may be a Jedi Master... but there are limits to his power.

(All it will take is one blaster shot, one lightsaber wound, or time...)

Well, in regards to slowing the toxin, much later in SW history, the Mon Cal Jedi Clighal (think that's her name...) removes a pretty serious, toxin from Mon Mothma that's probaly going to kill her otherwise. So though I doubt Anakin has the powers to keep her alive for good, he probaly has the powers to slow it for a little time...

Anakin Skywalker, right now being by far the most powerful Jedi ever, should be able to slow it to a near-stop, if not removing it completely, taking into account Cilghal's removing that poison from Mon Mothma and her surviving, as well as the later example of the virus purge by the (albeit more powerful) Luke Skywalker from Mara Jade Skywalker.

Other examples come to mind as well.

Anakin Skywalker, right now being by far the most powerful Jedi ever, should be able to slow it to a near-stop, if not removing it completely, taking into account Cilghal's removing that poison from Mon Mothma and her surviving, as well as the later example of the virus purge by the (albeit more powerful) Luke Skywalker from Mara Jade Skywalker.

Other examples come to mind as well.
I really don't think Anakin as the most powerful Jedi right now...I think at least Yoda, Windu, and Kenobi are all stronger, whether in the Force or in combat skills.

Anakin Skywalker, right now being by far the most powerful Jedi ever, should be able to slow it to a near-stop, if not removing it completely, taking into account Cilghal's removing that poison from Mon Mothma and her surviving, as well as the later example of the virus purge by the (albeit more powerful) Luke Skywalker from Mara Jade Skywalker.

Other examples come to mind as well.

I agree with AB. Anakin is not the most powerful Jedi ever... not even the most powerful Jedi of the era yet. He also just can't stave off death... that is what lead him to the Dark Side in the movies.

Also, I don't think Anakin can do any of that at all, never once did he actually train to do it, I figured Anakins training focused more around Combat and fighter training, rather than Medical Force use, considering the war with the Seperatists, and also I don't think she should be saved at all, it would be a major story line changer, I mean it would alter the Entire history from here on, without the birth of Luke and Leia we can only make the history what we want it to be

EDIT: also if none of the Major characters die, and the good guys always win, then there was no point in me being in this RP.

Yeah, to be brunt, Padme is as good as dead, the twins probaly with her...besides, this will introduce new charcter plots, as Anakin will no doubt be strongly affected.

Also, I don't think Anakin can do any of that at all, never once did he actually train to do it, I figured Anakins training focused more around Combat and fighter training, rather than Medical Force use, considering the war with the Seperatists, and also I don't think she should be saved at all, it would be a major story line changer, I mean it would alter the Entire history from here on, without the birth of Luke and Leia we can only make the history what we want it to be

EDIT: also if none of the Major characters die, and the good guys always win, then there was no point in me being in this RP.

*Here Here*

I find it funny that the person RPing Yoda (me) is the person who constantly has to defend the 'bad guys' and not say that the good guys are basically GOD.

*Here Here*

I find it funny that the person RPing Yoda (me) is the person who constantly has to defend the 'bad guys' and not say that the good guys are basically GOD.

I shall raise a Pint in your honour at the Evil Do'ers bar and Grill!

I shall raise a Pint in your honour at the Evil Do'ers bar and Grill!
Sounds like my kinda place...

Sounds like my kinda place...

Does many a Good steak and Frosty pint! just show your Kraven Security Papers as the Jackbooted Capitol Police man asks for your papers

"Ihre Papieren Bitte!"

I shall raise a Pint in your honour at the Evil Do'ers bar and Grill!

*Someone yells out, "Free beers on Kraven"*

*Someone yells out, "Free beers on Kraven"*

*A Reichmarshal swears in German, and thumps the Table*

Honestly though... can we get the attack started.

(I am going to be leaving on spring break soon...)

Are we ready to attack the DS...if so, I'll begin Neyo's assault on the station.

Are we ready to attack the DS...if so, I'll begin Neyo's assault on the station.

I mean... you need to actually travel there first - which would take some time.

I mean... you need to actually travel there first - which would take some time.
Given, but after that...

Given, but after that...

Well, probably - that is if people actually post in the thread - but the thing with Anakin, Aurra Sing, and Padme sort of needs to be resolved.

Well, probably - that is if people actually post in the thread - but the thing with Anakin, Aurra Sing, and Padme sort of needs to be resolved.
Cool, I'll wait for Padme's fate to be formally posted before the attack commences...

Guys, I am not sure if I have alerted you of this or not, but on Friday I am leaving on spring break and won't be back for about nine or ten days. That being said I would like if the attack could be underway by the time I leave or at least Padme's situation dealt with.

Well, due to Work constraints, I won't be able to post the Space battle until friday night, then sunday/saturday night. So I will leave you and Anakin to sort out the Pademe incident, which i should hope she dies.... *hint hint*

We can do other stuff, while we wait for you to return. but im just not going to be able to post regulary enough to get the battle underway or anything like that

Well, due to Work constraints, I won't be able to post the Space battle until friday night, then sunday/saturday night. So I will leave you and Anakin to sort out the Pademe incident, which i should hope she dies.... *hint hint*

We can do other stuff, while we wait for you to return. but im just not going to be able to post regulary enough to get the battle underway or anything like that

Eh... whatever. As long as Padme's death (*wink*) happens before I leave. :D

Just in case anyone accuses me of godmodding.

Spoiler Warning

If I roleplay things the right way, I plan on having the twins born and Padme dying, becuase frankly I don't believe the force can restart bunch of major organs that have been paralysed

I am not sure there is a way to lock doors from the inside so that they can't be opened from the outside (if you think there is I will give you the next twenty minutes or so to explain it to me before having the troopers unlock the door).

Also, if you think you can have the twins born before Aurra and her clone escort bust in the room in about a minute... well...

I am not sure there is a way to lock doors from the inside so that they can't be opened from the outside (if you think there is I will give you the next twenty minutes or so to explain it to me before having the troopers unlock the door).

Also, if you think you can have the twins born before Aurra and her clone escort bust in the room in about a minute... well...

They locked doors in the original star wars movie. Luke and Han Solo did it to protect R2-D2 and C3-PO.

Also it makes strategic sense for a medical door to be locked from the inside. If enemies came onto a ship it would allow the wounded to be protected for a bit longer.

One last thing this door is nothing to a light saber. 30 seconds of cutting and you should be able to cut a hole in it.

They locked doors in the original star wars movie. Luke and Han Solo did it to protect R2-D2 and C3-PO.

Also it makes strategic sense for a medical door to be locked from the inside. If enemies came onto a ship it would allow the wounded to be protected for a bit longer.

One last thing this door is nothing to a light saber. 30 seconds of cutting and you should be able to cut a hole in it.

I know - I was going to cut. However, since I am leaving for Spring Break in 15 minutes, I can not post.

I will allow Kraven to continue on with Aurra Sing in my abesence. If she is still alive when I return I will retake control. Also, if the next RP starts before I return, count me in and with Yoda still (nobody else gets control of him).

I'll save your Yoda spot...I still got my hands with Mace, though...

assumeing Sidious loses the saved people(as stated before on this thread) are

Nebarri Prime(Aayla Secura)
History Lovers(Ki-Adi-Mundi, or some other Jedi)
DMG(Yoda)
AB(Mace Windu)

assumeing Sidious loses the saved people(as stated before on this thread) are

Nebarri Prime(Aayla Secura)
History Lovers(Ki-Adi-Mundi, or some other Jedi)
DMG(Yoda)
AB(Mace Windu)


Very captivating, now all I need is to keep GG alive until the next RP, and I would like to be the Kaminoens (sp?). Just for the record, probably been saying that to much but I don't want to get another broad topic as the CIS and General Grievious.

*Yoodling* Kraven where are you??? *End Yoodling*

Kraven, just an update DMG let the control of Aurra Sing to you

*Yoodling* Kraven where are you??? *End Yoodling*

Kraven, just an update DMG let the control of Aurra Sing to you

Yeah, though I guess it is a little late for that now as I am going to be back in a day or so and I just posted anyway (with the little internet time I could muster and pay for).

Did everyone disappear when I went on vacation?!?!

some must wait, as agreed by us, for Padme's fate to be decided...

some must wait, as agreed by us, for Padme's fate to be decided...

Ah, I see - so it is more of Kraven's burden for not posting for me.

Sorry people, been really busy with the Return of Kraven, and work will try and get something sorted out ASAP

Sorry people, been really busy with the Return of Kraven, and work will try and get something sorted out ASAP

Ah yes - the rise of Kraven and the return of the Reign of Terror. I will have to catch up with that now that I am back.

Ah yes - the rise of Kraven and the return of the Reign of Terror. I will have to catch up with that now that I am back.

Awesome... Its going good... Exterminations and new toys, its all good

Woh, this could be one of the longest OOC threads I have been in... nearly 100 pages.

I look forward to the return of Kraven...darkness is good

This place is pretty much dormant...until two days ago...

This place is pretty much dormant...until two days ago...

Seems to coincide with the day that I posted...

Seems to coincide with the day that I posted...
Indeed. Coincidence?
Or maybe if Padme would ever simply die...

Or maybe if Padme would ever simply die...

*Sigh* I am trying...

*Sigh* I am trying...
We're all hoping.

We're all hoping.

I really don't think it is possible for her to survive this. She is currently poisoned; the poison will be taking its full affect (death) in no more than ten or fifteen minutes. She is also being fired upon from four different directions and a pseudo-dark jedi is attacking her.

Even if Anakin could block some of the blaster shots from hitting her, than he would leave himself exposed. She would also be exposed to the lightsaber attack of Aurra Sing - if Anakin chooses to block the lightsaber then she will be exposed to the blaster fire.

In my eyes she is effectively dead.

I really don't think it is possible for her to survive this. She is currently poisoned; the poison will be taking its full affect (death) in no more than ten or fifteen minutes. She is also being fired upon from four different directions and a pseudo-dark jedi is attacking her.

Even if Anakin could block some of the blaster shots from hitting her, than he would leave himself exposed. She would also be exposed to the lightsaber attack of Aurra Sing - if Anakin chooses to block the lightsaber then she will be exposed to the blaster fire.

In my eyes she is effectively dead.
Anakin's in a bit of a hole, as well...pity it's not him dying instead of her. But she really has no hope, niether do the twins.

Anakin's in a bit of a hole, as well...pity it's not him dying instead of her. But she really has no hope, niether do the twins.

Well, he certainly could/should survive the encounter. If Padme dies and he goes into his little rage there is pretty much no hope for the clone trooper squad or Aurra Sing.

Good point. And it will be "fun" to see him go psycho in anger...

Good point. And it will be "fun" to see him go psycho in anger...

Agreed - I am waiting for him to go dark. Then there could be something big in the future.

Perhaps if the Republic wins and defeats the Separtist forces, yet Sidious and 'Vader' get away, the next RP will begin with the mysterious deaths of numerous Jedi across the galaxy.

Agreed - I am waiting for him to go dark. Then there could be something big in the future.

Perhaps if the Republic wins and defeats the Separtist forces, yet Sidious and 'Vader' get away, the next RP will begin with the mysterious deaths of numerous Jedi across the galaxy.
It'd certainly add some intrigue...a little mystery to lead in to the main story events.

Ah! Where is Mare. He needs to post so we can get this moving.

In my post I am assuming that Aurra Sing has stepped past the door slab. If this is not the case then I will revise my post.

In my post I am assuming that Aurra Sing has stepped past the door slab. If this is not the case then I will revise my post.

You are correct in your assumption. Though I will let your GMing go.

Well, it does not look like there is going to be a Luke or Leia Skywalker. I can't think of any way to save them.

Actually I can think of quite a few ways to save them. Its just that they all involve a godmode of one sort or another.

Than I would assume there is no logical way to save them...

Yeah, plus even if you were to kill Aurra by some miraculous movement, Sidious isn't going to let them both live (known to me through OOC knowledge).

Yeah, plus even if you were to kill Aurra by some miraculous movement, Sidious isn't going to let them both live (known to me through OOC knowledge).

Really? To bad, I was hoping for Vader to get a comeback and kick the rebellion up and down the Galaxy.

Really? To bad, I was hoping for Vader to get a comeback and kick the rebellion up and down the Galaxy.

I am not saying he can't survive. I am just saying that if worst comes to worst and Anakin is able to miraculously (i.e. GMly) save Padme and kill Aurra, then Sidious will go to his backup plan (i.e. destruction).

Hm...now that I think of it, the twins aren't terribly important to the future plot, since I got a new character I want to introduce with a nifty back story, but...

*Still hoping for Anakin to flip out*

one thing i cant get used to is if Sidious losses this then Corran Horn's last name would be Halcyon

wow...i try to make a list of semi-important Jedi and a few Padawans/younglings and get 70 people...

Hm...now that I think of it, the twins aren't terribly important to the future plot, since I got a new character I want to introduce with a nifty back story, but...

*Still hoping for Anakin to flip out*

I am wary of new characters in an alternate history...

The creation of this character depends on a lot of things, like say, if the Seperatists surrender in the RP or are crushed (makes my job easier if they surrender) and how far ahead we're going in time.

The creation of this character depends on a lot of things, like say, if the Seperatists surrender in the RP or are crushed (makes my job easier if they surrender) and how far ahead we're going in time.

I am not wary about how you create him. (And this really isn't directed just at you but rather anyone in general) - I am just wary about their abilities.

Right now, he's looking to be horribly maimed. He was caught in the crossfire of the Clone Wars, and lost his family due to the Republic. Thus, he's more of a fighter (doesn't walk around with a saber though), since his Force abilities are nill (can't do much more then sense Force-sensitives right now).

Right now, he's looking to be horribly maimed. He was caught in the crossfire of the Clone Wars, and lost his family due to the Republic. Thus, he's more of a fighter (doesn't walk around with a saber though), since his Force abilities are nill (can't do much more then sense Force-sensitives right now).

Alright... interesting...

I was a bit vauge in my post on how Padme died because I felt that DMG should dictate how Padme died.

one thing i cant get used to is if Sidious losses this then Corran Horn's last name would be Halcyon

wow...i try to make a list of semi-important Jedi and a few Padawans/younglings and get 70 people...
...Corran Halcyon, huh.

And I would think of Sing brought her saber down on Padme, she would be slashed...

And I would think of Sing brought her saber down on Padme, she would be slashed...

She was.... :confused:

I was a bit vauge in my post on how Padme died because I felt that DMG should dictate how Padme died.

I think you did find - there isn't much for me to say about her death now.

By the way:

Congrats (sort of) on reaching the 100th page of the OOC thread

Happy April Fools day.


(and as a side note to Mare: I don't intend on Aurra coming out of this alive)

I believe the attack on the DS's location and the Separtist forces there can begin now. Whatever happens with Aurra and Skywalker can be done in fluid time (meaning we say it happens before the other people's posts despite us posting at the same time). We need to get other people back into this and able to post, so I think the invasion could be the key.

OMG...LOL...

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Earth

OMG...LOL...

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Earth

Yeh I saw.

That's so...weird!

Earth...canon...

*Begins to spin lots in head*

That's so...weird!

Earth...canon...

*Begins to spin lots in head*

I don't actually think it is canon.

I am pretty sure it is just an April Fools joke.

Probably...but it's so weird, it's kinda cool...

Probably...but it's so weird, it's kinda cool...

Eh... not in my opinion.

It clearly isn't true though - it will be gone by tomorrow anyway.

It is funny, to say the least...

anyway, so we're cleared to assault the DS?

It is funny, to say the least...

anyway, so we're cleared to assault the DS?

I would say so.

*Cackles*