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However though demonstarting how Neo can drown his foes in "a sea of political gore" would have your government decline greatly in my government's eye's, political backblading doesn't happen in Novacom (except when Admiral Kukonois was around before his grand betrayal) it's not in the Novan Cultural makeup, something which I have created completly from scratch, from the ground up, religon personalities, names places everything, there have been a few inspiration recently from other soucres which I have incoporated but most of it's my own ideas :D

Protecting Civil rights as the mian purpose of Givernment eh?

Oh you'll see that in the interests of duty Civil rights come in very low on the priority list, of both government and the people, what is best for society must always take priority, esepcially with Hikellnism, the philosophy my people follow.

Protecting Civil rights as the mian purpose of Givernment eh?

Oh you'll see that in the interests of duty Civil rights come in very low on the priority list, of both government and the people, what is best for society must always take priority, esepcially with Hikellnism, the philosophy my people follow.

Cultural differences, I suppose. In Holy Xirnium it is maintained that society exists to serve the individual (who is the sovereign entity), not the other way around.

Rest assured this wont strain our close alliance, however. :D

By drown his enemies in a sea of political gore, I meant that he can outsmart his enemies whom think that they have figured him out, when he does a 180 and pulls several ace cards out of his sleeve.

By drown his enemies in a sea of political gore, I meant that he can outsmart his enemies whom think that they have figured him out, when he does a 180 and pulls several ace cards out of his sleeve.

Xirniumites would consider your administration, clever though it may be, as mere amatures compared to the collective political competence of the High Ecclesiarchy.

I hope you never make an enemy of the High Ecclesiarchy, as Amestria unfourtunately did.

Then they don't know what's in store for them, which will fortunately (and hopefully, unless your Inquisition is found out...which will lead to some nasty gunboat diplomacy) never happen. And if those that think they can invade my nation and come out easily on top in terms of armed conflict, they are in for a very big surprise...the not-so-nice kind.

In such a conflict I would rapidly get pulled in, and I am not so easily trifled with, Damocles, Psychic Beacons, Cyberax, Enforcers and much much more are just the extreme tip of the iceberg.

However though it is doubtful to an extreme such an event would happen.

The fact he has enemies within his own nation would be of concern, Unity is a Novan Virtue and quality, it is expected and found in all Novan's and as such why should their be enemies, if a state lacks unity it is ultimately doomed.

More than likely Cultural Difference, however since these cultural differences will take a long time to ICly manifest the point is moot, even then it would propably add another dynamic to our alliance which will hopefully never break :D

Self Sacrifice in the name of others is the noblest death a Novan can have, that combined with an almost ungodly fanatacaly loyal populace to the state, and a state that is exactly the same way about it's people is not something to be trifled with hehe.

Neo does have enemies in politics...at least when it comes to election time. But when it comes to dealing with other politicians who have different views than he does, he's friends with them, provided they have good conduct....which the overwhelming majority of them in Southeast Asia are. As my nation's motto says, "Unity in Diversity." Tolerance is something held in the Union highly.

The fact he has enemies within his own nation would be of concern
Do you refer perhaps to Holy Xirnium? Because there are no enemies within my nation, unless you count the four Kraven terrorists, whose life expectancy at this point can be measured in hours. :D

More than likely Cultural Difference, however since these cultural differences will take a long time to ICly manifest the point is moot, even then it would propably add another dynamic to our alliance which will hopefully never break
Friendship can bridge cultural differences, even amongst nations.

That may change hehe, you never know there is a certain Admiral and his crazy underlings on the loose.

Nudge Exchange of ways Nudge :p

No Xirnium, he's refering to me.

I could also have been referring to the Wolfbrigade, However though the concept of a nation with enemies internal itself died with the end of the Alignment wars.

Xirnium, what RL countries exist in your version of history?

Xirnium, what RL countries exist in your version of history?
All of them.

What do you mean by that Xirnium? Do you mean that they exist along side NS, or that they exist in history and reformed into NS nations? Does the RL Southeast Asia exist alongside the real one, or is it's history lying in textbooks in Xirniumite libraries and today known as the United Sovereign Nations of Southeast Asia?

What do you mean by that Xirnium? Do you mean that they exist along side NS, or that they exist in history and reformed into NS nations? Does the RL Southeast Asia exist alongside the real one, or is it's history lying in textbooks in Xirniumite libraries and today known as the United Sovereign Nations of Southeast Asia?
I mean that the nations, as they exist today, and their respective histories, exist in the same universe as Holy Xirnium and indeed the rest of the NS World. The USN of Southeast Asia exists alongside the real Southeast Asian nations.

Suspension of disbelief is required.

You're correct I suppose, as NSEarth is the size of Jupiter (not sure whether Max Barry said this or the NS rping pioneers) and has unlimited resources. How does Xirnium look like on the map? And do you plan on signing up at the NS Draftroom (http://s13.invisionfree.com/The_NS_Draftroom) in case you want to post a design?

How does Xirnium look like on the map?
It's not easy to explain. It is a landmass enclosed on all sides by sea.

And do you plan on signing up at the NS Draftroom (http://s13.invisionfree.com/The_NS_Draftroom) in case you want to post a design?
I think I have signed up there and once I even submitted a design, but it was ignored.

Just checked the member list and it shows that you have no account on there. You have never signed up.

Just checked the member list and it shows that you have no account on there. You have never signed up.
I've signed up under the name "PNI" if you must know.

And what does it stand for? And what about "PN Industries"?

And what about "PN Industries"?
That may have been an earlier account of mine that I forgot the password to and therefore had to make PNI, or it may be a completely different account. As for the name, I don't remember anymore.

Any other questions?

Or it could be a design by Praetoria Novus. What did you think your company's initials stood for?

Or it could be a design by Praetoria Novus. What did you think your company's initials stood for?
Praetoria Novus was an early puppet of mine before I decided to only RP with Xirnium. I think it was deleted from NS due to inactivity.

Yes, it was deleted due to inactivity. And why did you create it?

Yes, it was deleted due to inactivity. And why did you create it?
Hmmm, it was an attempt to create a liberal democratic government before I abandoned it and turned Xirnium into a liberal democratic government.

Do you plan on having Praetoria Novus for future rps....or other purposes?

Do you plan on having Praetoria Novus for future rps....or other purposes?
No, it was deleted. I've no plan to resurrect it (what would I do with a puppet anyway, I barely have time to RP with Xirnium).

IIRC, some players (like Kaukolaustan, an '03 generation nation and ally of Halberdgardia) are planning the beginnings and endings of their nations for them to get destroyed, and they let their nation die and be reborn as a new one. If you plan to do such a thing, perhaps you should do that with Xirnium being reborn as Praetoria Novus. Or you can donate that nation to someone that is a good rp'er IRL and has never heard of NS.

SEA you are an inquistive one, we would almost think you are up to something :p

SEA you are an inquistive one, we would almost think you are up to something :p
I am an inquisitive person IRL. Thank you for stating the obvious.

IIRC, some players (like Kaukolaustan, an '03 generation nation and ally of Halberdgardia) are planning the beginnings and endings of their nations for them to get destroyed, and they let their nation die and be reborn as a new one.
Holy Xirnium is an Eternal Republic. It will continue to last long after the stars have all burnt out their fuel and the galaxies have all been scattered billions of light years away from each other by the relentless expansion of the universe. ;)

ICly and OOCly, I am so glad I didn't put any grandoise, boasting words in my nation's official prefix. Nothing lasts forever, and trust me, your nation's time lasting as a republic, let alone existing forever, shall be put to the test.

I would have if possible, not have had a national prefix.

I do beleive SEA is going to pull a bloodthirtsy alliance out on you again Xirnium, this will be fun hehe.

I do beleive SEA is going to pull a bloodthirtsy alliance out on you again Xirnium, this will be fun hehe.
Bah, the Immortal God-Emperor Protects!

(I think I should make clear that, by now, for all intents and purposes Holy Xirnium is an atheist state)

No, I'll let time do Xirnium on itself. Oh, and check your TGs Xirnium.

Welcome to the club is all I can say, been an Atheist state for over 7,000 years and it doesn't look set to change in a hurry.

Then perhaps if X gives me a VERY GOOD IC reason that will allow some BIG nations to make an example of the ex-AKA, I shall wait.

Then perhaps if X gives me a VERY GOOD IC reason that will allow some BIG nations to make an example of the ex-AKA, I shall wait.
I can't even think of a very small reason to bother Holy Xirnium, let alone a "VERY GOOD IC reason".

I say, leave Xirnium alone you crazy genocidal maniacs. ;)

If not, expect death.

I doubt he'd do that, though you however gotten my attention for some of the randomness that will be plaguing us all very soon.

Oh Genocidal Maniacs, what a good idea, the Admiral will be on it at once, I beleive the final member of the Detzen Circle will be on the rampage very soon...

I doubt he'd do that, though you however gotten my attention for some of the randomness that will be plaguing us all very soon.
Not Kukonois?

I've an idea, instead of everyone discussing how they are going to destroy Xirnium, lets focus on another nation for a change.

How about we RP a massive Kukonoian invasion of Destinus Isle, eh Novacom? Scratch that, how about we RP a HUGE invasion of all the Novacom home islands at once, I'm thinking dozens of black crusades on each one simultaneously. :D

If you think that OOCly and ICly that I'm a genocidal maniac, don't count on it. Of course, unless X ALSO gives me a very good reason to use military force, I'll just drag in some powerful political juggernauts like Iuthia to pressure them.

Good luck finding them all, Besides I have never revealed the true nature of my defences, nor of my military command structure though suffice it to say I already have an endgame strategy in place.

However any Invasion of Destinus would be a logistical nightmare of voronzelian proportions, it you managed to break through the outer defences there are then the electrical strosm that make the Bermuda Triangle look like a spring shower, the plot then further thickens as the very land itself conspirses against you, and then combined with the locations of Technopolis and Novesia, the only 2 major cities I have yet revealed, both are on Destinus to the north, and are only accessible on the land route through a single great canyon, which os guarded over by fortifications that have been developed over 7,000 years.

Then of course any Invasion force would fast get thrown into chaos if I chose to reveal the full extent of my devling into the depths of Psychic Technology, any invasion would be met with collosal resistance, shattering my governemtnw ould not shatter the nation,l instead new elections would occur and a new Suprainister would ascend, the people love their system too much, it works for them and it has served them well and it will continue to do so.

I however take it that in such an unlikely event, you would be RPing Kukonois, and he has actually attempted invasions, Valjsgaurd was one of them, and it failed miserably, details of which will soon be added to my factbook along with an analysis of Admiral Kukonois and his forces, as well as the political structure he is developing, soon he will announce formation of his nation and cause quite a sensation as he prepares to unleash terrible devastation.

Good luck finding them all
Doesn't Kukonois know the locations of all the home islands?

His Grandfather was no great geographer, and in his rush to escape as his loyal forces attempted to put Novesia to the torch he left behind a great deal of things that could have been useful to him, including data on Novacom's Nuclear Weapons Programme as well as maps.

This was of course in the last months of World War 2, this is what brought about Novacom offering peace talks despite having held back an attempted massive invasion and being on the brink of commencing a deadly counter attack, it was also at the Behest of Stalin, who the Suprainister at the time, Malo Tolion was good friends with.

Also of other note Damocles and several other things I have could easily prevent invasion or thwart it, even then I would be relativley unaffected, my Exile Project is comming along quite nicely now.

So Novacom was an Allied nation in WWII?

Actually it was Allied with the Soviets yet against the Allies, a Curious twist of fate, it unlike the Axis however did not suffer any Military defeats, though neither did it make any massive invasions, rather tied up massive amounts of allied forces that were intent on invading.

If anything you could say I was Axis ALlied, Allied with Germany and the Soviet Union at first, however slowly communications became less and less with Berlin, the only reason I was thrust into the Axis was in fact mistrust, my nation was even more secretive back then indeed your envoys in Destinus were the first foreigners to set foot in Novacom, something even the Soviet Union was never honoured with.

OOC: He's not even worth it for propaganda purposes X
Never underestimate propaganda. Nations can rise and fall based on subtle political machinations.

Indeed, Indeed.

I know that in politics, propaganda is a highly effective (but at the same time very dirty) method of carrying out your goals. But anybody that OOCly knows Saharistan and his seemingly endless line of puppets that he is too pathetic even for propaganda purposes, and ICly that the leaders of those nations may (subconsciously) think that the spirit of Al-Zharqwi is controlling the bodies of the dictators.

and ICly that the leaders of those nations may (subconsciously) think that the spirit of Al-Zharqwi is controlling the bodies of the dictators.
Why do you say that? There certainly is no shortage of tin-pot dictatorships on NS, I don't see any reason why it would be strange that there are several in a similar vein to Torontia (or Saharistan, if you prefer, that was before my time).

Besides, Torontia RPs a very good tin-pot dictatorship, I must say.

I know the dictatorship supply on NS will never end thanks to AMF and the other early NS pioneers (whom was beaten by Hitler....whom was in turn beaten by....several thousand others! :D), but at least those other tinpot dictators have more military formidability and better diplomacy skills than Saharistan. And he wonder whys he always gets backstabbed and beaten... :rolleyes:

Xirnium: Ignore SEA’s passive aggressive ramblings… He just really likes to find fault with others.


BTW: I have posted on the convention thread.

but at least those other tinpot dictators have more military formidability and better diplomacy skills than Saharistan.
A lack of diplomatic guile and a string of military defeats does not in my opinion justify you calling Torontia "pathetic".

Besides, I found his war RPing fine. At least he doesn't techwank like is sadly only to common these days.

BTW: I have posted on the convention thread.
Noted, I'm compiling a response.

IIRC, you that said that Torontia was a joke (remind me whether it's from an IC perspective or OOC one). And why do you seem to have a habit of deciding that single NSified units are techwank? Halberdgardia uses a lot of NSified weaponry (see his reference thread), and he is quite a decent rper.

Amestria, why do you tend to intepret me as passive-agressive? I haven't met you in the flesh, nor have I, so I can't make any negative judgment on you.

IIRC, you that said that Torontia was a joke
I never would have said something like that OOCly - though I've said that ICly to many people.

And why do you seem to have a habit of deciding that single NSified units are techwank?
I don't. They type of equipment used is not relevent in deciding if someone is techwanking, what is relevent is how they are used in the RP. Someone might techwank despite using only modern equipment whereas someone who uses advanced technology might not.

I will say that he at least does make a good effort at rping, but remember some author styles Xirnium? Some of them, when you have read one of their books, you have read them all. Unless he actually makes a twist in his rp style (a key reason why AMF is one of the NS big-shots: he found his own niche and people thought it was good and had originality), I will continue to get annoyed by those dime a dozen dictatorships that wander NS.

Posted up a reply to the Conference X.

How can someone techwank using modern technology? Anyone could do it just as easily.

How can someone techwank using modern technology? Anyone could do it just as easily.
If both of us are using MT and we are always getting into a silly discussion about how my forces "pwn" yours because they have this specific technology and you only have that, etc, etc, ad infinitum so that the whole point of writing the story is forgotten... isn't that techwank?

I will say that he at least does make a good effort at rping, but remember some author styles Xirnium? Some of them, when you have read one of their books, you have read them all. Unless he actually makes a twist in his rp style (a key reason why AMF is one of the NS big-shots: he found his own niche and people thought it was good and had originality), I will continue to get annoyed by those dime a dozen dictatorships that wander NS.

Please... I make Dictatorships look like liberal Paradises....

Father also makes Cyberax look positivley benign.

You are a dictatorship...in the sense that you ICly are an autocrat and oppressive regime, but at least you do it with STYLE and that you have your own NICHE.

You are a dictatorship...in the sense that you ICly are an autocrat and oppressive regime, but at least you do it with STYLE and that you have your own NICHE.

Of course... Im so Cool you could keep a slab of meat on me.... I'm so hip I have trouble seeing over my pelvis...

Father also makes Cyberax look positivley benign.
Quikzos IV made Father and Kukonois look like a rational, well-balanced individuals. :D

That guy sure was insane.

And Lady Destra of the Modified Freedom Forces of Euroslavia and Minister Lakely of the Iuthian Diplomatic Corps will make the High Ecclessiarchy look like insignificant worms when it comes to political manuvering. ;) :D

PWNED.

May I enquire to WHICH Kukonois you are referriong to? The current one is merely the latest in a grand Dynasty of them, you will see oh so very soon when Destinus moves on.

The Present Kukonois is positivley normal it's his flunkies that are insane, however the Previous Kukonois who is thankfully for us all dead, after failing to detonate a massive bomb that would have cracked the planet's crust bringing an end to all existence.

Mind you I have yet to truly Develop Cyberax, though I do have a fairly balanced character for him in mind, BTW you need to respond to Abnormal Psychology, and still finish your exchange of ways posts, after some excellent RL News I'm fairly eager to be on with things now :D

the Previous Kukonois who is thankfully for us all dead, after failing to detonate a massive bomb that would have cracked the planet's crust bringing an end to all existence.
Was that purpose intended by Kukonois? If so, then I will have to stand corrected on my previous statement. ;)

BTW you need to respond to Abnormal Psychology, and still finish your exchange of ways posts, after some excellent RL News I'm fairly eager to be on with things now :D
I thought we were waiting on Kraven's input for the ab psyc thread (something involving the Saraduakar). I will post in exchange of ways next, I promise. I responded to your "inspection" post, so at least I have done something. :D

Was that purpose intended by Kukonois? If so, then I will have to stand corrected on my previous statement. ;)


I thought we were waiting on Kraven's input for the ab psyc thread (something involving the Saraduakar). I will post in exchange of ways next, I promise. I responded to your "inspection" post, so at least I have done something. :D

Im awaiting for Kahanistan to either Open the door or for me to Kaine some Capitol Police...

Im awaiting for Kahanistan to either Open the door or for me to Kaine some Capitol Police...
Cool, as long as the blame doesn't rest on me. ;)

Oh indeed it was, he was driven insane partially by my own efforts to destroy him, and took the Extreme path of Maljuras deciding that the time was now to bring about a new journey for existence, and that could only be done by ending the current one.

I'v developed quite a fair bit of the Diri E I G Ignen Theology over the past few weeks, the Journey is actually a partial combination of my own beleif that it is not how life ends that is important but how it is lived, and a combination of the existing Diri E I G Ignen lore, I obviously do not beleive Maljuras will suddenly appear at my death in front of the great Gates of Destiny to pass judgement upon me.

Xirnium, in speaking of propaganda, what does the High Ecclessiarchy think of Minister Hartman as a propagandist?

Xirnium, in speaking of propaganda, what does the High Ecclessiarchy think of Minister Hartman as a propagandist?
That he is crude and lacks subtlety. The High Ecclesiarchy generally has a very poor opinion of the AMF leadership as a whole, some have even called them uncultured savages. Not all views are so extreme though, and many recognise that the Freeks do strongly adhere to a sense of honour, even if it is a very strange sense of honour to a Xirniumite.

What about Automagfreek's long-time allies, the Free Lands of Pantera and the Nationalist Federal Republic of Aequatio? What do they think of Lord Reavers' propaganda skills?

What about Automagfreek's long-time allies, the Free Lands of Pantera and the Nationalist Federal Republic of Aequatio? What do they think of Lord Reavers' propaganda skills?
The High Ecclesiarchy has never encounted them so they haven't formed any opinions regarding them.

Xirnium, I posted Liscel’s responses on the convention thread.

Amestria what I'm about to post up will be hammering down were Minister Izalian was, it's semi Fluid Time so it's before Valcus Stormed in, you needn't worry I haven't arrayed my entire delegation as Volatile Anti-Liscel personell, Valcus has an instinctive dislike of the kind of under the table backblading double edged sword type of things Liscel is going and also he's a good friend of General Kitas.

Ok... better make it clear in the post it is semi-fluid time...

Remember that Xirnium has yet to post Gilda's response to Liscel before they were interupted and her response to the interuption (+Liscels anger).

I know, I'm holding off in replying to that, that doesn't mean your deputy foreign minister will be so delayed though :p

Maybe its because I sometimes obsess over small nitpicks, but could you add a little OOC remark after "Before all the Hubabub", just to keep things as clear as possible...

I noticed that hehe, a Maxim for that comes to mind, "The Deity is in the Detail"

I noticed that hehe, a Maxim for that comes to mind, "The Deity is in the Detail"

Yes, so could you...?

Before you start firing random Damocles laser cannon bursts at Holy Xirnium, Novacom, (;) ) I know I said I would post in the "Exchange" thread next but, seeing as how everyone is sorta waiting in the "Convention" thread (including you) I thought I'd clear that up first.

"Exchange" will definitely be next on the list now, though. :D

Xirnium, can you please revive Praetoria Novus? Cos' if you can't use it, I could use an extra puppet for future purposes....and Novacom, this is not another grandoise scheme of mine bent on eradicating Xirnium off the map. If the H.E. gives Neo a decent reason, then I'll do it.

this is not another grandoise scheme of mine bent on eradicating Xirnium off the map. If the H.E. gives Neo a decent reason, then I'll do it.
Hmm... You know, Southeast Asia, you'd actually need to make an IC post once in a while to do that. :p

Xirnium, TG...

Xirnium, TG...
Replied, sort of.

Made another post on Sara on the convention thread...

TG Xirnium

It appears a compromise will be in order lest a fight breaks out, opening fire in a conference would potentially kill or injure several of the delegates, and i'm sure the Cardinal knows that, though with a Black Skull Enforcer and the place crawling with Gold Skull Enforcers any fight would certainly be on a deadly order.

The Cardinal knows this.

Plus, corrected the error.

OK and I think you will find the aforementioned Black Skull Enforcer very much in the foreground in this situation :p

I sincerely doubt any major backing down will be done on either side, and of course by the time things calm down they'll have been spirited away, once in transit their orders cannot be rescinded, to prevent any impersonators interefering with the Judicial process.

It appears a compromise will be in order lest a fight breaks out, opening fire in a conference would potentially kill or injure several of the delegates, and i'm sure the Cardinal knows that, though with a Black Skull Enforcer and the place crawling with Gold Skull Enforcers any fight would certainly be on a deadly order.

Compromise is deffinately needed, lest alliances become broken.

I sincerely doubt any major backing down will be done on either side, and of course by the time things calm down they'll have been spirited away, once in transit their orders cannot be rescinded, to prevent any impersonators interefering with the Judicial process.
If you attempt to do that you will shatter the Novan-Xirniumite alliance.

The Grand Cardinal has offered a way out, a way to let all the heat cool off.

hey Novacom did you see my post - bad things will happen if you ignore the Emperor

I have changed my post in a way unlikely to do any serious damage, it does however seem to me to not quite fit in IC character, I had toyed with the idea of locking them in the brigg on NMS Viginias, that however would still have excessive negtative results and propably be worse.

I have to make it very clear that if the Novans attempt to take the Amestrians away from the Admiralty then all Xirniumite soldiers will immediately open fire on your troops as a hostile threat. The Grand Cardinal has given an order, and I'd rather this not to turn very ugly..

There is still possibility of mending relations, but not if the Amestrians aren't released. You must understand that, since they are at a Xirniumite conference, they are in Xirniumite care.

The haven't left the grounds, they are instead locked in the former billets of the Gold SKull Enforcers.

Ahh, good, my mistake.

hey Novacom did you see my post - bad things will happen if you ignore the Emperor

??

They already have given her, her co-operation, she has left, the Amestrians are at prsent locked in Billets with a Cyberax uplink.

not quite co-operating seeing as you haven't released the Amestrians.

On a side note: perhaps we should have waited for Amestria to react to the arrest: we have kinda rp'd his characters.

Indeed I have just such a thing in mind as well, I beleive you will be encountering Satan, er I mean Cyberax in the Billets, a refreshing experience I suspect...

On a side note: perhaps we should have waited for Amestria to react to the arrest: we have kinda rp'd his characters.
I agree, but Amestria could still post a response with fluid time, since nothing has happened and Novacom has not tried to take the Amestrians away.

True. hopefully he won't just ignore the posts.

Indeed I have just such a thing in mind as well, I beleive you will be encountering Satan, er I mean Cyberax in the Billets, a refreshing experience I suspect...
When did you have the time to take the Amestrians to these billets, since we were arguing about it?

It happened fairly quickly, I do have something in mind for the situation however, though I'm sure the Lady Cardinal will remember seeing a Colonel tapp;ing in the code to the billets earlier....

If there is a danger that Amestria will ignore what happened with the attempted arrest, that danger will be even more so if he or she finds that you've spirited the characters away to some billets. I suggest we just say that they were never taken beyond the entrance hall.

Remember that in post 123 the Grand Cardinal indicated that her troops would open fire if you attempted to move them. She was not lying.

It would be a pity if stubbornness were allowed to stand in the way of a colourful little scene I have in mind, However I do think he'd go along, he'd be able to use this as IC political Capitol.

Remember there was a Black Skull Enforcer lurking around, who's to say he wasn't psychically distracting them?

I don't think it is stubbourness, I think it would be unfair to move Amestria's characters without he or she knowing. It could be considered godmoding.

There will be other chances for us to explore the CYBERAX character.

"Psychically distracting" a Grand Cardinal would be considered harming her, which would have devastating consequences.

I don't want this, but if someone punched the Superanister in the face what would his response be?

I was referring to the troops, and merely using an illusion to make them "vanish" something I have made use of before isn't assault, and as for punching the Suprainister it would depend, if it were in a sparring match it wouldn't matter as much but if it were for no reason at all it would be very serious, rest assured however though Minister Izalian and the ministers won't forget what happened, and questions will be raised about her state of mind, to idly fly off the handle is somewhat a rarity in Novans, and General Kitas and Valcus are the only 2 who do it with any regularity, if at all.

I most certainly don't want a war either, I have enough forces tied up as it is, which reminds me I need to pay a visit to my invasion threads, I have just ralised they are being neglected.

Can we compromise by having the Amestrians not leave the hall?

Let's see what Amestria wants first.

It is not only about what Amestria wants. When my Grand Cardinal gave the ultimatum that the Amestrians were not to be moved (post 123) you only RPed them at the gates to the entrance hall. After this, no other reference to the Amestrians were made.

If you want to try to move them any further we will need to RP the Xirniumites opening fire on your troops, because that would be the only way they would let you try to take the Amestrians away.

Obviously none of us wants a firefight in the main lobby.

I was under the impression that they wouldn't be notcied, especially as my personell there dwarf the Amestrians and as such a horde of Novans moving outside would make it quite difficult to see them, I will change it if wished, however I was under the impression that their exit had not been noticed until after the event due to them being screened out of view.

They would be noticed because the Grand Cardinal was standing right beside them [Post 121 "the Foreign Minister yelled as she walked to stop the overzealous Novan security troops"] and because Xirniumite soldiers were swarming around her from all angles.

There are also Xirniumite troops all over the place, especially at the door, so I don't see how it could be done.

I would appreciate the post changed.

I will change it, though I do have something in mind to cool things down hehe.

I suspect however the Cardinal will be making an inspection of the Billets very soon.

though I do have something in mind to cool things down hehe.
As long as we remember that the Cardinal is not in the mood for anymore nonesense. She gave a final warning for them not to be moved.. and she means it.

Who said it would involve the Amestrians anymore, I have something else in mind, something completly uinexpected, I'd watch the Torontia thread very closely, I intend to make things most unpleasent while the Minister is given quite a show...

Xirnium: what was your policy on WMD?

Why, are you planning to invade?

Holy Xirnium maintains vast stockpiles of both strategic and tactical nuclear, biological, radiological and chemical weapons. They primarily act as deterance. WMD doctrine states that Holy Xirnium be able to survive any pre-emptive WMD strike of any size with enough second strike capacity to ensure mutually assured destruction.

Holy Xirnium also reserves the right to use WMD in armed conflict should the situation arrise, though this would obviously be considered an extreme decision to make.

Finally, Holy Xirnium has used WMD before (though in the distant past before it became a liberal democracy), most notably in the nuclear vaporisation of a Kraven military facility which completely wiped out the entire Saradaukar garrison stationed there. The facility had been placed illegally inside an extremely isolated part of Xirniumite territory.

Also there's the virtue if XIrnium is attacked the nation that did so will find themselves ruling over a massive crater, despite the appearance of IC strains the alliance is still strong.

Why, are you planning to invade?

Holy Xirnium maintains vast stockpiles of both strategic and tactical nuclear, biological, radiological and chemical weapons. They primarily act as deterance. WMD doctrine states that Holy Xirnium be able to survive any pre-emptive WMD strike of any size with enough second strike capacity to ensure mutually assured destruction.

Holy Xirnium also reserves the right to use WMD in armed conflict should the situation arrise, though this would obviously be considered an extreme decision to make.

Finally, Holy Xirnium has used WMD before (though in the distant past before it became a liberal democracy), most notably in the nuclear vaporisation of a Kraven military facility which completely wiped out the entire Saradaukar garrison stationed there. The facility had been placed illegally inside an extremely isolated part of Xirniumite territory.

Just curious...If I tried to invade you I'd get dogpiled all to hell, I wouldn't risk it..

Which is why that in case the H.E. decides give Neo a good reasob, he's going to bring in several big powers to assist him.....politically of course.

Neo, being a person that despises armed conflict, will drag in several powers that have skills that will have the H.E. totally subjugated. Then again, the H.E. won't be so stupid as to turn this into armed conflict, as Neo has several friendships with several big military blocs.

Neo, being a person that despises armed conflict, will drag in several powers that have skills that will have the H.E. totally subjugated.
Yep, Neo (a “man of peace”) will hire mercenaries to utterly destroy Xirnium. We need more people who "despise armed conflict" like him.

Xirnium, when you post your reply on the convention thread, make sure start it out with her reaction to Liscel/Clo'e...(before everyone else arrives).

I think somebody here has misinterpreted something. And it ain't me. As I've said before, Neo is myself, just an older version of me.

ICly and OOCly, I dislike the use of mercenaries for whatever purpose. He also has relations with several states that have major political influence, and by subjugate, I did not mean a Xirniumite genocide, I meant to give Xirnium a lot of political pressure and stress.

And why, pray tell, would Neo wish to bring "political pressure and stress" against the Ecclesiarchy? I think I've missed the point of such an action.

Anyway - if theres anyone who can deal with politics well i would say its Xirnium.

ICly and OOCly, I dislike the use of mercenaries for whatever purpose. He also has relations with several states that have major political influence, and by subjugate, I did not mean a Xirniumite genocide, I meant to give Xirnium a lot of political pressure and stress.
Why is Neo planning on carving out a Southeast Asian hegemony? I think you might find Xirnium a very poor place indeed to try that.

Whatever happened to being anti-imperialist?

By hegemony, do you mean making the Union of Southeast Asian Nations a global power? No.

By hegemony I mean one State dominanting over other States (politically, militarily and/or economically). You advocate the imperialist desire of trying to establish hegemony over Xirnium, apparently not by your own nation but by others (why Neo should want this, I do not know, some kind of irrational grudge I guess).

So when did Neo become an imperialist?

ICly and OOCly, I dislike the use of mercenaries for whatever purpose.
You dislike the use of mercenaries yet you want to use other nations to try to subjugate Xirnium...

Xirnium, TG...

Neo has (currently) nothing against the High Ecclessiarchy nor the Eternal Republic. But if he finds out the Inquisitors, he will not be too happy....so he will get states that his nation has friendly relations with to give the H.E. a political bruising like the H.E. did to Amestria. He believes in natsov, and he doesn't want to annex Xirnium.

There you have it, he was always anti-imperialist.

But if he finds out the Inquisitors
I should point out that as your nation is not a totalitarian state, if there are any Inquisitors there then they will likely be Xirniumites travelling openly. There would be no reason to suspect them of spying, nor would they be breaking any of your laws.

I have an idea, instead of playing the game about who you can chuck at Xirnium why don't you play the game of how many people you can get to defend you from Admiral Kukonois..

Xirnium: I know it isn't a totalitarian dictatorship. Besides, Neo despises despots. But then again, NS is free-form rp, so there's always a way.

Yallak: Admittedly Xirnium is good at using politics to get his goals done....but there are nations that have leaders whose skills are better....

*ominous music plays*

*pulls out an earplug and wanders over to the record player, picking up of all things a Broken Record clearly labelled Southeast Asia*

Please, there's no need to make comments that can turn things into flamefesting Novacom.

Xirnium: I know it isn't a totalitarian dictatorship. Besides, Neo despises despots. But then again, NS is free-form rp, so there's always a way.

Yallak: Admittedly Xirnium is good at using politics to get his goals done....but there are nations that have leaders whose skills are better....

*ominous music plays*

SEA, I have yet to see you give anyone the lashing that Xirnium gave Amestria, Kahanistan (politically), or Kraven (militarly).

I haven't done it yet because I frankly, feel that my rp skills aren't as sharp as I'd like it to be.

We could certainly loose count of how many times such a lashing has been OOCly threatened, usually through waving around of other large nations who have no reason whatsoever to even know Xirnium exists.

Ah yes and Amestria you may find Sara Liscel being hounded for an interview by the good Dora, especially in relation to Cardinal Gilda...

I'm waiting for Xirnium's other IC problems to be fixed so that I can interact with him ICly.

Then quite frankly you will never ICly interact with him, I have yet to see any quiet period around here for months, you are far better leaping in now at this time of relative calm, since things do not look set to improve on the horizon, to the contrary in fact.

SEA, I have yet to see you give anyone the lashing that Xirnium gave Amestria, Kahanistan (politically), or Kraven (militarly).

That lashing was through Xirniums Sheer determination not to fall to Kraven, along with the assistance of Yallak, Kahanistan and other forces, Kraven was beaten severly for the First time in its History, Father has Vowed to Exterminate Xirnium and ensure that its Population is Extinct, No Xirniumite will be allowed to Breath air as long as The Supreme State still exists..

Its a testemant to what So little can Do against So many when facing Adversity.

I remember the Diplomacy thread, where both our Delegates kept pulling guns out on each other... that was awsome

I suppose Father has sworn similar oaths against Kahanistan, Automagfreek and several other nations as well by now, I somehow doubt things are going to get any easier for him, especially with several projects being cooked up, several of them by Xirnium actually.

Let us all hope Father does not get a virus, he's already insane enough as it is, though at least he has not yet as far as I know tried to destroy the world yet.

Ah yes and Amestria you may find Sara Liscel being hounded for an interview by the good Dora, especially in relation to Cardinal Gilda...

I'm not RPing with you until those posts in the convention thread are restored and properly edited.

Also, I'm waiting for something...click here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10203617&postcount=210).

Xirnium: I know it isn't a totalitarian dictatorship. Besides, Neo despises despots. But then again, NS is free-form rp, so there's always a way.
Of course there is a way, RP your nation locking its borders to all foreign visitors and then people will stop visiting.

I'm not RPing with you until those posts in the convention thread are restored and properly edited.
I have to second this, Novacom, it's a little unfair for your media to be attacking me over storyline that you erased. Please restore it.

Thank you for making a blunt assumption of what I would do. Anyway, I'm ready when you are X, send me a TG declaring you've cleared up your other IC stuff.

Xirnium, I sent you a TG...

Anyway, I'm ready when you are X, send me a TG declaring you've cleared up your other IC stuff.
It is as clear as it is ever likely to be, do whatever you wish.

Xirnium, I sent you a TG...
I'm sorry, I haven't ignored them it's just that they are long TG's to reply to.

I'm sorry, I haven't ignored them it's just that they are long TG's to reply to.

I did not think you were ignoring them, just that you may not have checked your in box...

I did not think you were ignoring them, just that you may not have checked your in box...
That's fine, replied.

Xirnium: Another TG.

I remember the Diplomacy thread, where both our Delegates kept pulling guns out on each other... that was awsome

Haha yeah - definately the most interesting diplomacy thread yet.

Haha yeah - definately the most interesting diplomacy thread yet.
Indeed, one of the classics. Hehe.. what was his name again.. ah, yes Grand Cardinal "Equilin" or something like that. I think I had him executed later on for his conduct. The arrogance was fine, but he should have shown a little restraint.

Yep, those were the "good old days" before Xirnium had transformed into a democracy.

Amestria, new TG.

Yeah, Equixlin. IIRC, he was burned at the stake for "heresy and blasphemy against the God-Emperor." Of course, back then sneezing in Quikzos' presence could probably get you barbecued.

BTW, my delegate is packing, too. But don't expect her to pull her weapon unless one of the Amestrians goes for theirs first. (Fat chance of that.) Liscel scared the H. E. Double Hockey Sticks out of her.

Xirnium: Got your TG and sent you one in return.

I however do not know how to restore them, and I have actually been going through those posts and touching them up anyway, editing out bits that were disagreeabe and correecting a few spelling errors I'd missed out on the first round of checking.

BTW Xirnium Dora has another reason to be out for Gilda, the present situation is highly convinient, however though it will be revealed in all good time.

Then you should not have erased them then.

Perhaps you should ask the mods about how deleted posts are restored.

Another idea is to make a separate thread with all your posts and then attach a link to the Convention Threads title post...(although we should see if the mods can restore the deleted posts without creating additional problems first.)

In the meantime Novacom, there are some issues that have to be worked out with your tech level...

Pray do tell, if I am asked about is as you just have politely I have no problems with it.

oh and BTW Xirnium if there is any problems with one of the claims that could suggest Succubus I will remove it without a problem, since it's something I have a few slight problems with but couldn't find a suitable replacement.

Your mind control devices, nay a good portion of your tech, is Future (or Fantasy), not Modern or Post Modern... Like your Pys beacans or your Black Skull Enforcers...or that thing you tried to take my characters memories with.

and I have actually been going through those posts and touching them up anyway, editing out bits that were disagreeabe and correecting a few spelling errors I'd missed out on the first round of checking.

I find this a little unsettling, Gilda responded to the posts you made, not some other hypothetical posts. Touching up spelling or grammar is fine, but I would appreciate you did not make any changes to storyline. Ideally, I'd rather you just restored the posts as they were.

oh and BTW Xirnium if there is any problems with one of the claims that could suggest Succubus I will remove it without a problem, since it's something I have a few slight problems with but couldn't find a suitable replacement.
Your media can print whatever claims they like, no matter how outlandish or insane, so long as you have don't refrence to real projects you don't have IC knowledge on. Since Novacom, Kahanistan, and Xirnium worked together at the same research base during the early stages of Project Succubus you have IC knowledge about it. It is extremely classified in Xirnium though, and if you told the world about it you would irrevocably destroy any possibility of future restoration of coridal relations, plus we would deny it (and after some of the crazy stories you published in the first article, I doubt anyone would believe it).

That said, sure mention it if you like.

And then there is the fact Novacom that you throw what I feel is a "snit" and erase your posts, making things more difficult for everyone (fortunately the RP's main strength lay in the interactions of the main characters), and now you start trying to RP with us again as if nothing happened (without so much as an apology)...

And your latest RP centers around story you attempted to retrocon and delete...nice.

Xirnium I am referring to several things Amestria or others had problems with, like the light which is a concept I was toying around with though I have taken Amestria's comments to heart and removed it, things like that I have touched up.

The claims are actually in reference to your main chemical weapons program, the Media Ministry would never allow Dora or anyone else to publish such a story, they screen everything, this only just made it past in it's present form.

the Psychic Beacons and the Psychic Technology is based off information from a book about EM Fields and through advanced manipulation of them which is possible today to control the mind, my Black Skull Enforcers are my rare troops, I think everyone has troops like that, that everyone will find fault with because of their unique capabilities, they have a fair few weaknessess and the Psychic Technologies are far from perfected yet, I still remember people having problems with Kraven's Sardukar.

As for the rest of my military that is solidly within PMT, Unless anyone wants to argue that Daokrellzus Batleships which use guns missile and rockets are FT?

the Psychic Beacons and the Psychic Technology is based off information from a book about EM Fields and through advanced manipulation of them which is possible today to control the mind, my Black Skull Enforcers are my rare troops, I think everyone has troops like that, that everyone will find fault with because of their unique capabilities, they have a fair few weaknessess and the Psychic Technologies are far from perfected yet, I still remember people having problems with Kraven's Sardukar.


I would like to see this alleged book, because I have a book which says the Earth is flat*, maybe I should RP one of my characters falling off the edge of the world... There is also a book at my cities local bookstore that claims the world is secretly controled by the descendents of reptile aliens from another universe or such &^%$.** Also, I stay current, and nowhere have I seen any scientific reports in legitamate newsources about mind control EMP rays or whatever. I feel they are Future Tech.

There is also the fact that mind control is not enjoyable in a MT/PMT setting...

(*Actually I do not, but I'm using it as an example.)

(**There is actually a book which claims that to be true, I believe it is by that Ickes character.)

I think everyone has troops like that

Amestria does not have troops like that, neither does Kahanistan, Saint Fedski, Torontia (or his present and past incarnations), SEA, ViZion, Yallak... I could go on and on.

And just to point out, your Black Skull Enforcers can fly, change the properties of matter by rearranging atoms, mind control people, use invisability...

Kraven's Saradkar and Xirnium's Inquisitors have no where near that much power. You Black Skull Enforcers have god like powers.

I have to agree with Amestria that technologies such as mind control, psychic transmutation, psychokinesis, etc are not appropriate in the Torontia RPs. If not fantasy technologies then they are future.

Xirnium's Inquisitors have no where near that much power
Although I think this is probably true, this it probably as good a time as any to announce that I am removing the Inquisition in it's current form from all my RPs. My latest RP with Gilda has shown me that exploring "real" characters to be vastly more fun, and the Inquisitors have become increasingly annoying to me in recent months (even though I never really RPed them that much to begin with).

For future references - the High Ecclesiarchy has passed legislation dissolving the organisation named "Inquisition" for being an undemocratic relic from a forgotten age (which is not really true, they always followed the directives of parliament). It just another way that the High Ecclesiarchy continues to assert the supremacy of parliament.

The Inquisition Acolytes (which were never anything more then elite soldiers) are to be placed under the direct command of the Armed Forces special operations unit. The Lords and Ladies of the Inquisition have been disbanded. "The Inquisition is dead" - Lord Nidor.

They have never ever flown, neither are they invincible, extended use of their powers is extremly exhausting so once they go past a limit they will be unwilling to risk using their powers anymore, the more extravagant feats require greater concentration, and not every Black Skull shares the same techniques, for example transmutation is a fairly rare ability, as is Abilities to create temporary walls of Psychic Energy, Invisibility is not what you think, it is more a case of alterring perceptions, a similar feat could be done with many many camera's and polymer alla Bond's Car out of Tommorow Never Dies, it may be technobabble but there is something it it, or so a sicence teacher told me.

http://www.cheniere.org/books/ferdelance/s63.htm is the online version of the book, and the link is the exact page where it describes the phenomenon, I however prefer to preserve and control then destroy and anhialate.

The fact that they are in Xharn in combat is that they are leading commando missions, if I started using them in front line Combat I would fast find myself without any of them left.

They are special forces, you will notice they are not everywhere, they do not appear at Iathern, neither were there any at the subsequent negotiations, nor were there any present at the conference at my homeland, the only one present at Tornotia was assigned as an Aide to General Kitas, there are none in my Mysteries thread, you will in fact find Black Skull Enforcers do not make extensive appearances, however when they do it's usually quite a show.

So with the dissoloution of the Inquisition I suppose Exchange of ways is essentialy dead in the water?

So with the dissoloution of the Inquisition I suppose Exchange of ways is essentialy dead in the water?
Yes, unfourtunately. They annoyed the High Ecclesiarchy one too many times. I guess we'll be turning the Great Synod of the Inquisition into a museum or something now.

Well it will be interesting to at least continue your characters training at the very least.

Oh and BTW it is nice to know you have been following Descending Sword as much as I have been following Going Home Going to War, a very interesting storyline, I need to catch up on the latest few pages.

I have to agree with Amestria that technologies such as mind control, psychic transmutation, psychokinesis, etc are not appropriate in the Torontia RPs. If not fantasy technologies then they are future.

I too must agree. The furthest thing from MT my nation has is the metal Tiranaide which i use for armour on ships, vehicles and soldiers - and it is pretty much a real metal (just slightly better than the one i based it off).

"The Inquisition is dead"

Oh! I am now highly disappointed. (They were more than just a cool name).

My Psychic Beacons and my Black Skull Enforcers are the only things people have any problem with, but since they rarely get an airing, (the only reason why they seem be everywhere at the moment is that their activites are at the forefront for a change, plus it makes for interesting story)

http://www.cheniere.org/books/ferdelance/s63.htm is the online version of the book, and the link is the exact page where it describes the phenomenon, I however prefer to preserve and control then destroy and anhialate.



Stunning new revelations
about the secret scalar
EM wars the media ignores

That “book” looks like a work of fiction or of conspiracy laden thought. I tend to ignore things that claim a “stunning new revelation” that “the media ignores” unless it appears in a legitimate new source/journal… That book hardly looks legitimate.


THIS BOOK IS THE
ONLY SOURCE FOR
THIS INFORMATION

In my opinion, enough said. I can either trust my own knowledge and the fact that I have seen no reports concerning such matters…or that little book with its “stunning new revelations.


Updated to the year 2002

It’s not even current.


Abilities to create temporary walls of Psychic Energy, Invisibility is not what you think, it is more a case of alterring perceptions, a similar feat could be done with many many camera's and polymer alla Bond's Car out of Tommorow Never Dies, it may be technobabble but there is something to it, or so a sicence teacher told me.

I too know "a science teacher."

That “book” looks like a work of fiction or of conspiracy laden thought.

That is precisely what it looks like. Poking around the authors website for a moment, I found these quotes:

-"A Visual Tour of what they don't want you to know
about electrical circuits
10 Trillion Percent of the Current Produced is Wasted!"

-"How to Neutralize Nuclear Waste in 9.1 minutes"

If you ask me, the guy sounds like a nut.

That is precisely what it looks like. Poking around the authors website for a moment, I found these quotes:

-"A Visual Tour of what they don't want you to know
about electrical circuits
10 Trillion Percent of the Current Produced is Wasted!"

-"How to Neutralize Nuclear Waste in 9.1 minutes"

If you ask me, the guy sounds like a nut.

HAhahaa, Thats class... However I remain somewhat Skeptical... not much.... But somewhat....

However I remain somewhat Skeptical
You may, but not me. I agree with Amestria, mind-control rays are out.

And damn it why do those bastards insist on wasting 10,000,000,000,000% of my current!! I'm taking this book to my electricity company next time the bill comes. :rolleyes:

You may, but not me. I agree with Amestria, mind-control rays are out.

And damn it why do those bastards insist on wasting 10,000,000,000,000% of my current!! I'm taking this book to my electricity company next time the bill comes. :rolleyes:

I was being Skeptical about the 9.1 minutes for Nuclear waste and others, The Mind Control rays although Interesting in a Fantasy setting or where all players are In agreement is ok, I mean i'm ok with it affecting CP Who aren't connected to the Command Relay, but Taking Control of my Battalions who are Stilled Linked with a Psychic Beacon is a No No...

Novacom, MKULTRA esque accounts do not provide sufficient proof that psychic warfare is modern tech. And please, keep your obnoxious comments out of my sight, unless you want a flamefest and slinging of IGNORE cannons. And I know Xirnium is a good role-player (X, have you rped on other forums? Because something tells me you have rped on other MMORPG sites before, and that's probably a result of reading your works), and as I have told him in a TG sometime before, I feel that he has a good chance of taking on Pantera, Aequatio and Automagfreek (three longtime rp buddies and ICly viewed as global megapowers) and a 40% chance of survival, not as high a chance as the other tier rpers that took on AMF (Hellfire's stars for example: Sarzonia, Praetonia and Hogsweat), but impressive enough.

Amestria, I've been in only one armed conflict, and that's the War of Allegiance (my domestic name for the Southeast Asia/Joint Conglomerates Conflict, and I can give out good lashings...and I'm waiting till JC's back from uni). I'm getting it up again soon enough...wanna join?

X, have you rped on other forums?
No. I didn't even know RP existed before NS (That's not entirely true, but you get my point. Xirnium is the first thing I've ever RPed as).

unless you want a flamefest and slinging of IGNORE cannons.
I would appreciate if you and Novacom went to another thread if you are about to start flaming each other.

THere will be no flaming as I will not be responding to it, as far as I am concerned it is very specialist equipment with limited application and it is used as such, after the Psychic Invasion Thread comes to a close that will more than likely be the last anyone sees Psychic Beacons for a while.

It is not up for discussion as last time I checked nobody in this thread has a presence in any of the Xharn Theatre's thus it does not affect any of you ICly. I even agreed the use of the technologies with him which is what I would do if I wanted to use them again.

Xirnium, you said sometime ago you were to rp an election between Nidor and Gilda and you needed suggestions (or I could've mixed it up with two posts or another) for it. Why not have Gilda read about the Liberal Imperialist ideology and well, make a split?

Why not have Gilda read about the Liberal Imperialist ideology and well, make a split?
Firstly, Gilda advocates a foreign policy which is not imperialist by any definition, but rather non-interventionist.

Secondly I am not going to RP an election (the next election is scheduled for 2007) but rather an internal party leadership battle between the two possible successors to Nidor: Vernius and Gilda.

Thirdly, both individuals are members of the same party and will not want to split the XPDP, so they are unlikely to have massive differences in policy direction.

I see. Ah well, you could've pleased a couple of the tier rp'ers on NS (Praetonia and The Island of Rose). And by 2007, you mean RL time or NS time?

Xirnium: TG

And by 2007, you mean RL time or NS time?
I mean ICly.

It'll be interesting, as the world watches the two politically battle it out, all the while the world's press chuck out stories discrediting or benefitting the two, my own Rita Skeeter, Dora Johannie is going to have a whale of a time, speaking of which I have another article comming up.

X, what do you think of this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10370708&postcount=66) ICly?

Time to teach him a lesson.

Shall we, Xirnium?

Are you referring to SEA or Kravania, I will admit it's a strange turn from what you expect of SEA, usually along the lines of him sitting on the fence and not saying anything controverisal.

Kravania, of course, SEA is basically an ally of mine, along with the SWC.

Really? now that does sound interesting, very interesting indeed.

I think it's stupid really, everyone dogpiling on Kravania, even if he did win against one of them it would be doubtful he'd win against them all, besides you have no IC reason from the looks of things apart from alliances, and if that were sole motivation then it's not a very good one.

It's hardly a dogpile, he's got RB and Parthia on his side, as well as Jenrak. Read the thread. At any rate, I'm actually a old ally of LA and I'm a friend of SEA as well.

Last time I read it he was on the brink of getting RB and Jenrak on his side, lost the link however though it is interesting to know he has 2 large powers with him, intruiging.

He'll get them, they aren't the ones to back down from a threat.

Xirnium: TG

Xirnium: TG
Replied.

X, what do you think of this ICly?
Well, apart from the fact that the High Ecclesiarchy would consider it more then a little strange that your government is making references to concepts like reincarnation and the like in an official diplomatic message, they will be happy to see your nation so clearly condemn a crazy fascist dictatorship.

Shall we, Xirnium?
I don’t think the High Ecclesiarchy is in much of a hurry to involve itself in a far away war that doesn’t concern it, in order to remove a government that poses no credible threat to it. If this new and reprehensible totalitarian regime is slain, all the better, but Xirnium isn’t going to be paying the butcher’s bill to achieve it.

Replied.
Well, apart from the fact that the High Ecclesiarchy would consider it more then a little strange that your government is making references to concepts like reincarnation and the like in an official diplomatic message, they will be happy to see your nation so clearly condemn a crazy fascist dictatorship.


Buddhism (with it belief in reincarnation) is prevalent throughout Southeast Asia so one could consider the references to it in SEA's message a form of cultural humor...

Velkya: Actually, we haven't interacted much ICly, so we view each other neutrally.

Amestria and Xirnium: Neo was adding a touch of cultural humor into his message, and since tolerance is widely preached in the Union, extremely few people have over reacted and interpreted it negatively.

Amestria and Xirnium: Neo was adding a touch of cultural humor into his message, and since tolerance is widely preached in the Union, extremely few people have over reacted and interpreted it negatively.

I guessed that.

BTW: As Partia has sided with Kravania you should most likely prepare your nation's civil defense units for missile attacks and bombing raids... That is unless you like to sit around all vulnerable...

Amestria, I'm happy that Saharistan has finally, after making like what, nearly a dozen puppets, learned from, or is in the process of, learning from his mistakes ICly. The only problem is that he's siccing the knowledge he learned at last, after a long time getting it cracked into his thick head, on me! Oh well, then again, I have ways....

After Singapore burns to the ground your Prime Minister is welcome to take refuge in Amestria, provided he avoids revolutionary or terrorist related activity.

Don't worry, it won't. Besides, if anything, as Saint Fedski strongly believes, if anyone were to attack me, the entire international community will rise up against him....not. SF either must be exaggerating or is way too much of a good friend of me ICly and OOCly, but it is true that I have backings of powerful states.

If it is any consolation I may help protect you, however it would have to be requested, cultural quirk as it were, be sure to search for the position, as if you sought out a Novan by Name they would refuse by principal to speak to you, however if sought out that position they would find you, it's the position not the person that is important in Novacom.

What do you mean by cultural quirk? And that's all right Nova, if Kravania attacks, I can handle it as I do have my own allies to assist me.

X, what did the H.E. think about Hartman's statement on TOFTW (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10139283&postcount=31)? Fact or his usual public mega-dose of Freek propaganda?

The High Ecclesiarchy would agree with Hartman that "Terror of the World" must have been gripped by some kind of mass-insanity if it truly believed that Xirnium would ever acquiesce to their demands.

How come the H.E. believes that what Hartman mostly says is propaganda? It is true that AMF doesn't attack anyone randomly (like pretty much all other veteran NS rp'ers, very rarely you will see a veteran NS rp'er attack a random state outta boredom), and often uses military action in self defense...even the supposedly 'good guys' in Hellfire (the Organization of Maritime Powers, IIRC Yallak participated in Hellfire on the side of the OMP....in lip service) actually attacked AMF because a Freek warship wandered too close to a colonial holding. Actually, Hellfire was more of a global conflict starting out of mere misunderstanding, both sides thought each other were the agressor....

Well I never got involved because of the Xirnium-Kraven war, otherwise I would have gone to war with the Borman Empire.

Terror of the World was some sort of noobishness, I really can't stand people who use cuss-words and smileys in their signature. He's a typical noob terror group, he has "many cells in many nations" (just an excuse so you can't attack him), and has the ability to pop up in any nation with any amount of explosives (ViZion as an example).

Velkya, I thought that you and Doom were enemies?

Velkya correct me if I'm wrong but unless your Military command employs a group of soothsayers and fortune tellers they would not know under whom the fleet is being lead by, you know how stingy Novacom proper is ICly with information and discounting that they would never tell anyone about Admiral Keshast, the Murderer or Maladrixen and the Butcher of Valjsguard, his Flagship would appear to be another ship to an outsider, so that wouldn't give any hints either, and even if could crack the communications codes you of course do now know Novan so it would do you little good.

Also of note said forces now fly under the name of The Principality of Zeon, and Admiral Keshast's official rank is Naval Principal Keshast, I did some reworking of rank structures and you will find this fleet a considerably different animal to the one you faced at Xirnium, General Drejas was slated to have his forces upgraded 2 days after that Phyrric Victory. However though even Admiral Keshast will be getting a massive upgrade forces wise, the Covenant Guard and Blood Guard are being rennovated as it were, the Detzen circle is nigh on broken and the madness is near it's end, Things have only just gotten started however, you may find yourself regret having killed General Drejas Velkya, that was the main cause to this pile of dominos.

X, which Grand Cardinal's profile are you currently working on? Your defense minister?

X, which Grand Cardinal's profile are you currently working on? Your defense minister?
Yep, and its almost done.

Good. Because I really liked the part where he stated his opinion on my EER spokesperson. It gave me a good laugh. ;)

Because I really liked the part where he stated his opinion on my EER spokesperson.
EER spokesperson?

Emerald Executive Recluse. Think of it as the United Sovereign Nations' version of the White House.

As your State is parliamentary, would not a closer equivalent be Downing Street?

I thought he had a system that was a cross between America's and Britains.

The Istana is closer to the White House than 10 Downing Street. And the EER is highly loosely based off the Istana.

The Istana is what?

It's the Singaporian (?) equivalent of the White House.

Correct. And it's a Malay word, that when translated, means "Palace". Outta curiousity Velkya, how old are you?

As your State is parliamentary, would not a closer equivalent be Downing Street?
Since SEA's Prime Minister is both Head of State and of Government, I think it's UK equivalent would probably need to be a blend of Buckingham Palace and 10 Downing Street.

X, this just recently popped into my head.

You said that you didn't use IGNORE cannons. But how come in the 'Stoddenia is producing WMDs' thread, you said that Axis Nova's air battleships were on IGNORE (also judging from his attitude, I'd say "Damn right, Guffingford!")?

how come in the 'Stoddenia is producing WMDs' thread, you said that Axis Nova's air battleships were on IGNORE (also judging from his attitude, I'd say "Damn right, Guffingford!")?
I don't remember ever saying that I was ignoring Axis Nova's flying battleships, and I especially don't remember doing so in the Stoddenia Crisis thread. I've not ignored them.

I do remember deciding not to come to Kahanistan's aid in the AMF-Kahanistan War partly because of the flying battleships, though there were other IC reasons for not helping.

As for the Guffingford reference, I'm afraid you've lost me.

You definetly said you were ignoring them writing them off as "preposterous" I remember it from somehwere, definetly in an assorted OOC thread.

Guffingford is one of those "Generation '03" nations, and considered to be a "tier rp'er" by many, even though he has controversial methods.

You definetly said you were ignoring them writing them off as "preposterous" I remember it from somehwere, definetly in an assorted OOC thread.
Yep. Only that it wasn't an assorted OOC thread. It was an rp by Kravania, who should be properly refered to as Saharistan, and I posted OOC comments in it. Here's the post (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9946848&postcount=125).

Yep. Only that it wasn't an assorted OOC thread. It was an rp by Kravania, who should be properly refered to as Saharistan, and I posted OOC comments in it. Here's the post (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9946848&postcount=125).
Consider that statement to have been retracted, then.

Has the H.E. finally figured out that Neo was being sarcastic and adding a jab of cultural humor, or do they think that he's trying to turn the government type from a democracy to a dictatorship?

Has the H.E. finally figured out that Neo was being sarcastic and adding a jab of cultural humor, or do they think that he's trying to turn the government type from a democracy to a dictatorship?

Talk about a false dichotomy... that statement is one of the most blatant false dichotomies that I have ever seen. :D

And which do you refer to? My OOC statement or my Prime Minister's?

The quoted statement...

Xirnium: Big TG...

The quoted statement...
It isn't exactly contradictory....

Xirnium: Big TG...
Amestria, fairly large TG.

It isn't exactly contradictory....
I did not claim it to be.

X, you missed this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10389294&postcount=463). So why hasn't the Grand Cardinals decided to make a dissection on Hartman's "propaganda"?

Xirnium, TG...

So why hasn't the Grand Cardinals decided to make a dissection on Hartman's "propaganda"?
I don't understand your question, which piece of propaganda do you think the High Ecclesiarchy should dissect, and for what reason?

The suggestion that AMF is some kind of victim (a lie peddled by Minister Hartman) is absolutely laughable, and yet the Neo regime believes it completely. Don't expect other governments to be so foolish.

About AMF being the "victim" (actually, that statement holds water somewhat, as AMF as I've told you before, often gets attacked by smaller nations and new players that have no idea what to do), and to demonstrate that AMF needs better propaganda skills.

About AMF being the "victim" (actually, that statement holds water somewhat.
Was AMF acting as a "victim" when they invaded Kahanistan and commited obscene crimes against humanity? No, AMF was an aggressor.

The Neo regime is completely deluded if it believes that AMF is anything at all like a victim. Obviously, Hartman's propaganda works well on some nations.

I didn't say that the Neo Administration (was the word "regime" used in a negative sense? Cos' that's how I interpreted it) believed that AMF was always the victim. I said that AMF is usually the victim.

Here Xirnium, dissect through this list of Hartman's (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=335706).

Oh, and what are you searching for?

Here Xirnium, dissect through this list of Hartman's (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=335706).
Most of those examples involve nations I've never heard of, how could I "dissect" it? Even if I did know about the incidents, why would I bother? Xirnium made a statement (a couple of statements, as I recall) about AMF's hypocrisy and brutal savagery back when it was a relevant issue (during the invasion of Kahanistan). Now that it isn't they couldn't care less about AMF.

Oh, and what are you searching for?
What are you talking about?