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Post coming tomorrow after Biology Lab - that would be April 6th.

Shit, I have been so busy lately. Sorry I haven't been posting Haven; I will definatly have a post up by tomorow, or over the weekend.

Mac... are you going to pick up my surviving sailors?

Mac... are you going to pick up my surviving sailors?


I would, but my fleet is more preoccupied with >1000 missiles flying into it, at the moment. I might send a detachment of non-combatant ships to try to pick them up, hoping that neither Stevid or IH sink them.

w00t

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i291/Macabees/Armor/Nakil.png

Busy weekend im afraid, so it will take a while to get up my reply to your mega post!

I have however found a brief follow on that I did from the submarine that you mentioned at the start of the naval battle, so I've posted that up. It may need editing as I'm not entirely clear on your sonar performance (this was written offline) and if there are any glaring errors I will of course change them!


On the post on the thread, just to make sure that Im clear the following are happening:

1) Your aircraft fired their missiles at mine then turned.
2) You dispatched long range SAM's against the returning bombers
3) Launched a second wave of missiles
4) Now moving into gun range with the large battleships etc.

Thanks!

I know my post was crummy IH, but did you really have to ignore me? :(

Yo, Mac, you still need to get back to me about the post I emailed you.

On the post on the thread, just to make sure that Im clear the following are happening:

1) Your aircraft fired their missiles at mine then turned.
2) You dispatched long range SAM's against the returning bombers
3) Launched a second wave of missiles
4) Now moving into gun range with the large battleships etc.

Thanks!


More or less, yes. I forget what I write in my posts sometimes. In any case, take your time.

I know my post was crummy IH, but did you really have to ignore me? :(

Wait until he has more time to respond.

I know my post was crummy IH, but did you really have to ignore me? :(

Sorry Spiz i completely missed it. I will include the response in my next post :)

Sorry again!

http://s15.invisionfree.com/Stevid_MoD/index.php?showtopic=45
(The Dweller Class Destroyer)

Nice to have it for reference;)

I'll have a post up soon.

For all W@Wers who participate in this thread:

http://s9.invisionfree.com/worldatwar

Hey, Mac, since Guff left and know one here is actively hostile toward any of my allies, would I be able to come back and join this RP again (for the third time :p)? Since about every other war RP has died from OOC bickering, this one doesn't seem to be in that case and looks real interesting. :)

Yea sure - the more tanks on the ground the better... the bigger Ishme-Dagan will be... if we ever get past where we are now on that front, that is. You being IADF have a perfect reason to enter too.

Now other side - if you want another ally go ahead and invite them...invite as many as you want, as it is.

Yea sure - the more tanks on the ground the better... the bigger Ishme-Dagan will be... if we ever get past where we are now on that front, that is. You being IADF have a perfect reason to enter too.

Now other side - if you want another ally go ahead and invite them...invite as many as you want, as it is.

Great let me see what's happened so far and I'll get up a post with me entering the war. :) I'll see if some of my allies want to get in. I won't bring that many since I don't want this to become overly big and suffer the fate of other RPs.

Sorry about delay on my post, I wrote it up once but on proof reading it I decided that it was utter rubbish and so have rewritten it. Just have to join the segments together then I will post it up.

Just a quick note, ive included all of the damage at the end in a brief list as well as the counter-strikes that were launched during the time elapsed during that post. I'm afraid ive assumed Mac that you would have been looking to close to under 400km to fire your big guns? If thats wrong then just forget about the launch of AS-1M's until you get to that range, although with ships lost the numbers would decline!

Well, the big guns are railguns, so technically they have the capability to fire at that range - accuracy... well, accuracy is probably close to zilch, but the idea is to keep your carriers under pressure until the range can be closed to where those guns are accurate. No doubt I'll be loosing quite a bit of ammunition, but I rather have that than suffer another attack from your aircraft. I don't think I'll be sticking around in Otium Aqua for long... the raid kind of when awry.

I finally got that post up Haven, so reply when you are free.

Some quick notes: I took more losses in the air than I illustrated, and the five division attack is into the flank where most of your men are being withdrawn to urseline.

Respond to Mosnoi Bor first dammit!

I have to copy/paste this from my TGs since I accidently deleted it (I need the names of the ships) :

Yes I'm familar with the 1940 story.

Major warships? Well i suppose you could target the 5th Fleet in Portsmouth Harbour (kinda the same place where the real Portsmouth is in Britian). Seeing as all the other fleets are fully operational, your subs would probably be picked up.... Seeing as the fifth fleet was damged when fighting Guffingford, it isn't as flexible as the other fleets, in other words it's more venerable to attack.

1. HMS Orlando- Domination Class (BB)
2. HMS Longberth- Domination Class (BB)
3. HMS Devilfish- Akria Class (Older BB)
4. HMS St. Gregory- (Damaged SDN- currently in dry dock under going repairs).

Those are themain capital ships that you could target seeing as Guff was more into destroying my escort ships than my capital ships. The ones listed are the damaged or heavily damaged capital ships in the fleet. Also, targeting a port so far into Stevid would be good for you because ports nearer the conflict would have high security.

Also because the largest fleet in Stevid is attack once again.

Thanks for asking first, but short of an all out nuclear strike on every city in Stevid, it doesn't matter what you do as long as it is RPed well. And with your talent, i'm sure that's no problem at all.

Thanks again for asking, but in short...you have the go ahead.

Whose side is victory favoring?

On the rebel front - Fedor's, heavily. Against Haven, from my perspective the Empire is winning in the water, but it's more or less up in the air ground-wise. In Otium Aqua Sea it's going to turn into a phyrric victory for however wins - honestly, in the end, I think it's lost for me in terms of who keeps the sea. It was a good try though.

Sorry to go slightly off-topic Mac, but when are you going to make a post in the Kahanistan thread?

Whenever I remember. I guess I could do it now. And you can put in whatever you wanted me to look into at Kriegzimmer - that cruiser is done.

Then why not do it now?

I'm almost done with the air war/Mosnoi Bor post, I'll post it tonight.

I'm almost done with the air war/Mosnoi Bor post, I'll post it tonight.

Then get on Aurillac!!

:P

In Otium Aqua Sea it's going to turn into a phyrric victory for however wins - honestly, in the end, I think it's lost for me in terms of who keeps the sea. It was a good try though.

You and I both know that isn't the case unless my ships get into cannon range- In my belief, sometimes skilled drills and a experiance prevails over numerical odds.

Same thing goes for IH, possibly for you as well Mac.

I'd say that in Otium Aqua...it's in the balance. Mac has casued more casulties but both IH's and my fleet are closing with some decent weaponry to bear.

Which is why I plan to leave before it gets hot. :P

If you cant stand the heat get out of the kitchen. hehehe.

*goes to dig out the cliche book to use in his next post*

I'll be posting soon so Mac and Mekugi watch out for a confirmation message for landing. :)

If you cant stand the heat get out of the kitchen. hehehe.

*goes to dig out the cliche book to use in his next post*

heh heh! Likewise!

COME IH!!! We can can win this! We both know it's possible (the scary thing is Mac knows that too!), so let's get shooty!!!

*Grabs AK and fires wildly into the the air*

Hmmmm....well since I intend to get involved I am curious who all is in this thing? When I jumped in the first time it was Haven-Zarabia-Weiger-Sarcanza VS. Fedor and the Golden Throne.

Is the guy who wanted the throne even alive still?

Sides now are:

The Macabees [Second Empire of the Golden Throne]
Hailandkill
Mekugi
Space Union [?]
Geneticon [?]

vs.

SafeHaven2
Sarcanza
Weigar
Stevid
Independent Hitmen
Zarbia [?]

~~looks like we're outnumbered, but Weigar and Sarcanza don't count. I control them. :P Prince Heinrich of Dienstad, the man most likely to gain the golden throne should Fedala be captured was captured at the Battle of the River Nestor. He will be executed in another post later on. All I know is that we need more guys on SafeHaven's side. Anybody know of somebody that would be interested? The more the merrier - as long as they are able to cooperate like the rest of us.

Hailandkill, since I have class today I most likely will not be on AIM. That said, I was doing the calendar in class today, as opposed to listening to the lecture, and we have time for one more battle in Weigar before Ishme-Dagan begins and we can finally re-align the timeline of all the fronts. So, I'll make a post sometime this week/weekend, or next week, detailing preperations for another advance... and we'll have ourselves a huge battle. :)

Mac, I telegramed you a message--I'll join SafeHaven. :P

Region map has been updated with the newer nations of Greater Dienstad.

Heee..... http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=478771

With that done now I can carry on and do all the posting I need to do.

OOC: SH2 better hurry and post, so you can hurry up and post, so I can hurry up and post to get this RP continueing along. :)

Heee..... http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=478771

With that done now I can carry on and do all the posting I need to do.

Holy crap on toast! So that's what's taken you so long (I don't mean that in a bad way;)) gee... scary looking tank you have.

[OOC: So what exactly has to progress for us to get to Ishme-Dagan? What battles and who has to post what? I want to get my share in, because I feel as I have lost my status as a major player.]

Not until Mosnoi Bor and Aurillac are finished - Ishme-Dagan would happen after. But, we have time for one more battle in the Weigar area before Ishme-Dagan, and I will get to posting the introduction for that soon enough.

Not until Mosnoi Bor and Aurillac are finished - Ishme-Dagan would happen after. But, we have time for one more battle in the Weigar area before Ishme-Dagan, and I will get to posting the introduction for that soon enough.

Would that be able to include Wilson's division? Meaning, can I fight with them alongside your men?

Yea, I'll put out a map either on my next post, or the one after that...and while I roleplay preperations and such you can do so as well. There's also going to be another main event to happen that will begin to unfold itself on the second post.

Okay Mac- Otuim Aqua, The Battle of. Is it kinda over? What with your withdrawing fleet and all, because I was gonna try and write it (or most of it) up on NS-wiki.

I want it (most of it) to be embedded in history.

Well, unless either you or Independent Hitmen are going to hit the fleet while it's retreating. But yes, if it was up to the admiral it's over. And when you write it on NS Wiki categorize the battle as follows:

[Category:War of Golden Succession]

On the bottom of the article place:


{{GoldenSuccession}}

It will put this:

http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Template:GoldenSuccession

hmmm..... tasty...

cheers for Mac, and thanks letting me do the Otuim Aqua article :D

[OOC: So what exactly has to progress for us to get to Ishme-Dagan? What battles and who has to post what? I want to get my share in, because I feel as I have lost my status as a major player.]

I'd like to do it at Aurillac, if I get a breathrough. The Styx really hampers the chance for a mobile armor battle around Mosnoi Bor.

Ishme-Dagan will either happen north or south of the River Styx, really depending on how Mosnoi Bor turns out. Frankly, even a threat of breakthrough at Aurillac will cause the Empire to begin shifting divisions there from the north, and in the end, breaking the defense of the River Styx will have more to do with a decisive victory over me, more so than over Hailandkill.

Interesting. Aurillac would provide for the best spot to have armor come in and out, but no offense Haven, I don't plan on letting a breakthrough happen anytime soon. I think Ishme-Dagan should take place above the River Styx, and if the Imperials lose it would make for a longer RP. Oh, on that matter, what is the longest recorded RP on NS?

BTW, if your responding to my last post the largest counter is into your withdrawal flank. If your still confused about how I have the stage set, I can easily do a shitty paint illustration.

_____

I just read your newest post BTW Mac and I am probably going to fly in more of my more elite mechanized divisions. I may have smaller numbers than the rebels, but I will have more armor, better weapons, and crack troops. To make things short, if the battle is about to kick off, should I RP my newer divisions coming to the Mons Dei area?

With Havenic equipment piling in the rebels are not push-overs... and their SD-60Fs are a match for the Broadswords, and even the Cougars. :) The SD-60Fs are tanks from the 1980s designed during the Great Civil War. In any case, you can do whatever you want... I'll have to make a map today and put it up both here and in the RP and we'll discuss how we want to take the roleplay.

On the topic of Ishme-Dagan...I don't care where it is.. but it really has to do with Aurillac and Mosnoi Bor. Obviously, if we win it will not be north of the river. Prior to all the problems in speed I actually wanted to make this RP Russo-German War like... with massive counter-strokes leading to dead ends, and then counter-offensives, and then couter-strokes, et cetera, et cetera...with massive battles and such. But time issues, I believe, will not make that a possibility, so as things look like now... the faster, the better.

Well I didn't exactly mean to say that the rebels were going to be pushovers, I kind of meant that my own mechanized divisions are going to be better off than they were at Mons Dei; plus alot of Wilson's division is going to be refitted and rearmed.

When you say time constraints, do you mean your own or other players?

Oh, I plan on having Revello himself lead the attack into Wiegar for both strengthening of diplomatic ties, and for a bit more flair/panache in my attacks. On an off topic note I should probably get him hitched so he has something to come back for.....Then again living for the glory of a fight is a manly, honorable thing and a thrill in itself.

Are you at home? I'm on AIM.

my naval post, mac, will come sometime during the week. I've got coursework to get out of the way.

If it's no trouble: On a quick estimate, how many ships did you lose in the Otium Aqua battle?

Same question kinda goes for IH as well.

I figured it was something like:

Mac= 21
RN= 29
IH=32

Sort of along those lines- includuding REALLY damaged ships.

A list of all ships sunk and damage is included in the post.

oh aye, yeah in the little print ;)

I think thats about right for me. Includes 4 carriers sunk and 1 badly damaged :( ahh well lol.

So Mac is it ok if we use some fluid time to move some land troops into SafeHaven, or would you rather that we continue at a slower paste so that you can do some sortee's against transports moving across etc?

I think thats about right for me. Includes 4 carriers sunk and 1 badly damaged :( ahh well lol.

So Mac is it ok if we use some fluid time to move some land troops into SafeHaven, or would you rather that we continue at a slower paste so that you can do some sortee's against transports moving across etc?

With most of my western fleet either bottling the Havenic fleet at Targul Frumos, or preparing against a non-existant Malatosian threat [since he did nuke three of my light cruisers], there's not going to be many sorties...but sure go ahead, use fluid time.

So Mac is it ok if we use some fluid time to move some land troops into SafeHaven, or would you rather that we continue at a slower paste so that you can do some sortee's against transports moving across etc?

Talk our tactics over on msn saturday evening, IH?

Talk our tactics over on msn saturday evening, IH?

Sounds good. I'll create a basic post that i can then edit based upon that before posting up on here.

EDIT: I will try to be on 7-9pm UK time! Hopefully some more!

H&K, next post on Weigar will be up today hopefully... you'll have some time to respond.

Ok, sounds good for me. You just might have to specifiy my task either verbally or visually. Oh, if the post is from the imperial view we should address Revello and Fedor saying their goodbyes, since both our leaders are each commanding a force.

BTW, I still need to get a post where I am flying in the new tanks, APCs, weapons, etc, etc.

Can you get on AIM?

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/6976/weigar6yf.gif

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/430/battleofviusbi0pd.png

Hey Steve, sorry I missed you today my shooting match overran! Will you be on msn tomorrow?

Nice maps Mac, no if only we could get a naval battle going on....

Nice maps Mac, no if only we could get a naval battle going on....

Whats the need for a naval battle when we have a huge war on the ground, an invasion about to kick off, and IH and Stevidian forces about to land in Haven. A shitstorm of war is about to engulf a few countries, and you should get probably involved on the ground.

Whats the need for a naval battle when we have a huge war on the ground, an invasion about to kick off, and IH and Stevidian forces about to land in Haven. A shitstorm of war is about to engulf a few countries, and you should get probably involved on the ground.

I think naval battles are awesome. But for the ground, I'm still waiting for Mekugi to get his troops down in the south before I can. And based on Mac's timetable, my troops would arrive at the end of the Battle of Mons Dei.

I think naval battles are awesome. But for the ground, I'm still waiting for Mekugi to get his troops down in the south before I can. And based on Mac's timetable, my troops would arrive at the end of the Battle of Mons Dei.

Let us recouperate a bit. We've just had a major Naval Battle of the Stevid Coast (close shave as well). I promise you that there will be another midway through the war. Stevid (obvious enough as it is) along with IH, is going to go on the offensive having been on the defensive for so long.

You'll get your ship's cannons blasting soon enough ;)

Let us recouperate a bit. We've just had a major Naval Battle of the Stevid Coast (close shave as well). I promise you that there will be another midway through the war. Stevid (obvious enough as it is) along with IH, is going to go on the offensive having been on the defensive for so long.

You'll get your ship's cannons blasting soon enough ;)

Great. :)

I will post against, hopefully, tomorrow! I've just been a bit busy running back and forth to the Spanish consulate in Los Angeles. It seems as if I may be enlisting in the Spanish Army.

I will post against, hopefully, tomorrow! I've just been a bit busy running back and forth to the Spanish consulate in Los Angeles. It seems as if I may be enlisting in the Spanish Army.

Oceanaria will be in the war soon enough, I've probably given them enough time to prepare.

Hopefully getting my post up pretty soonish. Before I do however a couple of quick questions!

Mac, would I be correct in saying that you have several groups of surface ships patrolling around your waters and a bit further out as an advanced warning force/deterrant?

Also would you have SAM batteries along the coast or only placed in strategic locations such as around towns/cities or military bases?

SAM batteries are located in strategic areas, mostly along important military installations and cities, but these are fairly extensive with long ranges. My fleet in the south is now bottleling up Safehaven's fleet, and so any patrolling would be light. I have no abilities to conduct raids in that area yet.

Right! Thanks for that info :) thought I'd better check to make sure my post didn't take too many liberties, but I will alter accordingly and get it up soon.

EDIT: The post is now up, its quite dialogue heavy and I apologise for that. I thought it best to post some stats here rather than clog the thread with them!

12th Army Group Composition

-IH 7th Army (Lt. General Howard)

--VII Corps (Mj. General Roberts)
---3rd Mechanized Infantry Division
---8th (Heavy) Armoured Division
---21st (Heavy) Mechanized Infantry Division
---33rd Mechanized Infantry Division
---41st Armoured Division

--X Corps (Mj General Hopkins)
---2nd Infantry Division (Mechanized)
---5th Armoured Division
---11th Infantry Division (Mechanized)
---12th Armoured Division
---29th Infantry Division (Mechanized)

-IH 11th Army (Lt.General Boyd)

--IV Corps (Mj General Bradley)
---6th Marine Division “The Committed”
---9th (Heavy) Marine Division “The High and Mighty”
---11th Marine Division “The Visitors”
---24th Infantry Division (Mechanized)
---43rd Mechanized Infantry Division

--XXX Corps (Mj General Horrocks)
---3rd Armoured Division
---4th Infantry Division (Mechanized)
---10th Infantry Division (Mechanized)
---17th Mechanized Infantry Division
---21st Mechanized Division

--XXX Corps (Mj General Horrocks)
---3rd Armoured Division
---4th Infantry Division (Mechanized)
---10th Infantry Division (Mechanized)
---17th Mechanized Infantry Division
---21st Mechanized Division

ooo... i'm sending my XXX Corps- we'll try not to get confused between the two.

RP post coming up now and i'll post my numbers HERE soon (at the most it'll be saturday but they should be up tomorrow).

Wow, I'm really sorry I haven't posted in regards to the battle in Weigar, I'll try to get something up ASAP.

Wow, I'm really sorry I haven't posted in regards to the battle in Weigar, I'll try to get something up ASAP.

Doom what side are you on?

*Preys that he isn't on Mac's.

Is it just me or is every RPer that i know to be good is a member of this RP? Its like its a club or something, and im the worst one in the room

Doom what side are you on?

*Preys that he isn't on Mac's.
MUAHAHAHAHAH!

(Yeah, I think you can imply the response from that. Don't worry, I'm just RPing a small unit of my guys serving in Mac's SS as special forces. But of course, they just couldn't keep from commiting an attrocity or two for more than five minutes...)

MUAHAHAHAHAH!

(Yeah, I think you can imply the response from that. Don't worry, I'm just RPing a small unit of my guys serving in Mac's SS as special forces. But of course, they just couldn't keep from commiting an attrocity or two for more than five minutes...)

Well that's a relief. Being allied to you isn't what I consider..... natural. :p

Is it just me or is every RPer that i know to be good is a member of this RP? Its like its a club or something, and im the worst one in the room

Don't say that. EVERYONE and I mean everyone here is a good RPer. We've all been involved in something in our history and we've made good detailed posts. Everyone here is a well respected (I Hope) nation on NS and II forums for their role playing.

Look at my post count..... i mean DAMN! That is a very small count considering i've been on NS for quite a while and taken part in a lot of well known RP's ( this one included).

Your RPing is cool with everyone else so your no reject mate ;)

You said it Stevid! Everyone is easily pulling their weight and above here. Spiz don't be so hard on yourself, for the time I've been haunting these forums my RPing is not up to standard nor is my post count very large at all!

Your doing just fine mate!

Don't worry about anything Spiz. We all started out as newer people with shoddy RPs (which is NOT your case, I am just making an example) and developed as we went along. Like IH said, everyone is pulling their weight, and your no different. I think you will definatly grow to be great after this RP.

And, if it makes you feel any better, I still think RPing sucks. :p

Seeing as I'm a 'big' nation in the region, I felt it somewhat silly I have done jackshit in this RP.

So in the interest of joining the war, I am going to ask Safehaven to purchase some superheavy battletanks, probably Ogre Mk IIs or Mk Xs. These being the region's most 'feared' (Throw me a bone, dammit. :P ), land weapons, someone, maybe Mac, dispatches subs and begins sinking UCSNE flagged shipping.

Deeming a market under threat, the Senate will vote for war, and lo and behold I shall enter the war.

Did you ever deliver those nine Ogre Xs i ordered when you were selling them?

Did you ever deliver those nine Ogre Xs i ordered when you were selling them?

I never sold Ogre Xs on NS... Maybe the Mk XX, but I didn't have a transport for them at the time, so probably not.

Yes the XX. So I have nine of them that i cant use. Damn DAMN DAMN, can i send a few ships from my fleet thats in Macabea to collect them?

Yes the XX. So I have nine of them that i cant use. Damn DAMN DAMN, can i send a few ships from my fleet thats in Macabea to collect them?

Not really, because since nobody could collect them, they haven't been built (or more likely, they have been built and the government has bought them since the buyer couldn't collect)... There is no such thing as an Ogre surplus...

Yes the XX. So I have nine of them that i cant use. Damn DAMN DAMN, can i send a few ships from my fleet thats in Macabea to collect them?

Your also on the other side of the aisle from New Empire if hes going to be one my side.

Yay another Ally in the "War against Evil".

*I must think of a better title for my mind*

Suggestions on a postcard!


EDIT: Slightly wierd mood at the moment! Must be all the sun we are getting!

Ok, time to recap sides and weed out those that don't post. If you want to stay on the list post.

Imperial:
The Macabees
Hailandkill
Spizania
Space Union
Geneticon

Havenic:
SafeHaven2
Stevid
Independent Hitmen
Zarbia
New Empire
Jagada

~~~I'm probably missed a few people. Let's trim or expand the list. I didn't add the rebel groups this time.

I'm here. Or rather, Oceanaria is.

if i say so myself, that's very evenly matched alliance groupings.

Im here Mac.

I agree Stevid. They appear to be groups about even in strength, however we are perhaps at a slight disadvantage. *shrugs* makes final victory all the sweeter. hehehe.

sorry i haven't posted my forces, i went to the Aston Villa Vs. Sunderland Footie match on Sunday so i couldn't type up my forces.

Should be up sometime today.

This looks interesting. Can I join, and can someone give me a summary of the current situation?

Is there a way to join this? I`ve seen it around and have been reading it and I like the way its going.

There could be... although the sides are pretty large already. Have to wait and get the OK from Mac before you can join.

I think it's closed for now, except for a few nations that generally had to get in from the get go but still haven't posted - mostly nations from the Imperial Armies region...since this is turning into more of a regional war + war of succession. I will TG both of you if we decide that we can let others in... if anything, first I have to settle the current standings and such to get some organisation going.

You said it Stevid! Everyone is easily pulling their weight and above here. Spiz don't be so hard on yourself, for the time I've been haunting these forums my RPing is not up to standard nor is my post count very large at all!

Your doing just fine mate!

Agreed... we have some of the finest RPers in NS in this RP, that's why I wanted to join it so much. Everyone involved is repsected, somewhat large, and very good writers. I'd been looking for an RP with good writing for a while and "A Passion Play" was the answer.

Now I'm off to figure out Oceanaria's forces...

BTW Mac... did your ships ever happen to pick up my survivors?

BTW Mac... did your ships ever happen to pick up my survivors?

No, my ships were forced to make a hasty retreat - it was a tactical victory, but a strategical defeat. I had to leave the field.

No, my ships were forced to make a hasty retreat - it was a tactical victory, but a strategical defeat. I had to leave the field.

Copy that... I guess they're still floating out there. Maybe they'll make for shore.

On another note, I have 10 Trillion dollars that were saved and now ready to spend on defense to fund teh forces of Oceanaria. We need to build up a force, can you recommend equipment for Navy/Air Force that can compete with the forces here in this RP?

Maybe Isselmere's air equipment and Sarzonia's naval equipment to give some flavour to the tech in this RP. Currently it's Kriegzimmer vs. USCNE, with some of Stevid's and IH's stuff.

And don't forget QAE Marine! (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=472461) (for the best capital warships since sliced bread!)

And some of my naval stuff, which is designed to work closely with Kreigzimmer stuff, since that stuff makes up a large part of my fleet, so it might not add as much flavour as you want, and some of it doesnt make logistical sense considering i have both 18" and 20" in my fleet

These are the aproximate numbers but i don't know whether the number of tanks are too smaller number. (or large but i doubt i have too many).

24th Foot Mechanised Infantry Battalion

Veterans of the Holy Panooly Civil War Campaign are known as the best regiment in the whole of Stevid and respected on the field of any battle. The regiment managed to hold off the rebels south of Volta City before routing the rebels and taking large proportions of the city.

Riflemen: 25,000 with basic equipment.
Specialised (Anti-Tank): 1,500 with basic and AT equipment.
Specialised (Royal Engineers): 2,000 with equipment
Specialised (12th Platoon- Veterans of HP War): 600 with equipment
Command Platoon: 50 + Command vehicles
Total APC Transports (Warriors and Wolverine APCs):: 200+ other units go by smaller transports or via aircraft.

XXX Corps Tank Division- On Route

Frontline tank division that has been in most major military campaigns that Stevid has undertaken also including peacekeeping missions in Somalia and other parts of the world. The Division were also present during the Holy Panooly war fighting along side-allied forces that were also in the campaign.

Tanks Present (Numbers so far aren’t exact since tanks are still being drafted in from other places):

Challenger II: 350
Challenger IIa: 75
Challenger III: 112
M1 Abram MBT: (200)
105mm Light Artillery Gun: 60
AS90 155mm Heavy Artillery Gun: 110
Paladin Heavy Artillery Gun: 65
MLRS Units: 55

XXX Corps Equipment:

AA Rapier SAM: (Numbers Vary Depending on Particular Hot Zones)
Stevid Consort SAM Battery: (Numbers Vary Depending on Particular Hot Zones)
Warrior OPV: 40
COBRA Units: (25)
MAMBA Units: (20)
MSTAR: (Same as Warrior OPV numbers)

XXX Corps Troop Contingent:

Troops (All Variants): (7000- Infantry being called in from TA regiments and non-eligible regiments).


XXV Corps Tank Division- On Route

XXV Corps isn’t as well known as some of the other tank battalions but it is one to be respected none-the-less. The division has been present in quite a few actions over the years, none quite so glamorous as XXX Corps deployments. XXV Corps was an ever-present force in the Panooly Campaign and was a frontline peacekeeping force after the war. XXV Corps played no direct part in the Civil War but has been one of few frontline battalions of tanks. The Cold War in which Stevid had a face off with Kanami was the latest date where XXV Corps were on station. Kanami’s forces were seen as inferior to the post modern forces of Stevid so XXV Corps was intended to be the only division to be sent in if invasion ever happened. The division was transported to international waters just off Kanami when diplomacy prevailed of military action. Since then, XXV Corps made real name for itself and now is a formidable force in today’s Stevid Army.

Tanks Present (Numbers so far aren’t exact since tanks are still being drafted in from other places):

Challenger II: 325
Challenger IIa: 40
Challenger III: 98
M1 Abram MBT: (200)
105mm Light Artillery Gun: 55
AS90 155mm Heavy Artillery Gun: 120
Paladin Heavy Artillery Gun: 45
MLRS Units: 70

XXV Corps Equipment:

AA Rapier SAM: (Numbers Vary Depending on Particular Hot Zones)
Stevid Consort SAM Battery: (Numbers Vary Depending on Particular Hot Zones)
Warrior OPV: 40
COBRA Units: (25)
MAMBA Units: (20)
MSTAR: (Same as Warrior OPV numbers)

XXX Corps Troop Contingent:

Troops (All Variants): (6500- Infantry being called in from TA regiments and non-eligible regiments).

How many divisions per corps?

*Quick Maths on numbers*

Four, not even amount of armour in each division, give ot take a tank or too. But in Stevid it is between 3-4 Division per army Corps.

Is that cool?

For that first corp I got 1337. :P But I got a total of 2,674 tanks, correct? If it was up to me I would put more. :)

Yeah 1337 tanks in XXX Corps. Not all of them are there yet, some are scattered in other places in either the world or Stevid.

But your right, a total of 2,674 Tanks. Infantry fighting vehicles are rather numerous in both Corps.

Also in my IC post on the other thread, i mentioned that once the first two corps had finally landed and got themselves organised, another two army Corps would follow along with the Army Air Corps.

More Tanks will follow them if the situation becomes that desperate.

-In short, more tanks are already on the way in the mission plan.

Alright, good enough. :) Response coming tomorrow for Independent Hitmen and New Empire. Hopefully I will also get in a Viusbi preperation post in. I don't think I'll get a post for Haven tomorrow.

OOC: So Mac, how high are the chances of peace would you say?

Knowing us, none. :p At the very least the rebels would have be put down and then we could think about peace.

Peace? Pretty unlikely. Temporary ceasefire is possible- but there is no chance in hell of that happening anytime soon.

OOC: So Mac, how high are the chances of peace would you say?

/me laughs heartily.

I don't want peace anyway, I want to lead panzer divisions into the heart of Weigar and crush the rebels!!!

Oh, and Haven must be defeated as well. *Grumbles about Targul Frumos*

OOC: So Mac, how high are the chances of peace would you say?

Well, unless you nuke either side into a glowing lot then I'm not seeing anybody caving in anytime soon.

Also, consider my post an glorified and dignified way of getting out of PP. As there was, as Sun Tzu's questions imply, no chance of me beating Mac--even with the allies.

Good RP though, I'll rank it soon. Also...I'm rooting for Haven and the bunch--to end Golden Hegemony.

ICly my country is neutral and wants no hand in this situation, both officially and unofficially.

You probably wouldn't want to because, whoever you fight for, the other side automatically hates you. I don't even know IH and Stevid (no offense guys) and I IC'ly dislike them even though we have not had any past contact. All because of this war...I LOVE IT!

Well, even though I'm ICly neutral unofficially and officially, that doesn't stop me from helping IH and Stevid OOCly.

*envisions Smoke Jaguar-designed tanks in Stevidian/Hitmen hands laying waste to Imperial armor*

Despite what I said in Kriegzimmer, the Cougar's write-up does compare Clan Smoke Jaguar tanks to it, and given that the Nakíl is supposed to be even better and more or less the latest in tank technology [with the added plus that I'll simply change a few things to continue its supremacy since it's so modular] I can envision another target for the Nakíl! Then again *weeps* the Nakíl isn't technically out yet. And I hate when people do what I just did, so if Clan Smoke Jaguar sees this it was just a joke! Given that it's not up to what the tank can do, but what the roleplayer behind the tank can do... meaning the Nakíl could suck in the hands of nation A and be very good in the hands of nation B.

*passes CSJ's AH-93A Firemoths to assist in exterminating Nakils*

Well if you're going to go into combined arms...

I agree with Mac here, its alll about who is behind the tanks. I can't wait to get my hands on the Nakil! Especially with my changed armor warfare doctrine! Yippee History!

*Shakes fist at SEA for supporting IH and Stevid*

Oh and Mac, GO BACK TO SLEEP!!!

And what if we're going into combined arms Mac?

I have a test in an hour and a half. :) I'm studying for it.

And what if we're going into combined arms Mac?

Then it's no use comparing tanks.

Still haven't gotten any confirmation on my weapon orders for my nation. Once I do, I wipll Rp the entering into the area. I'll likely come in from the east.

What exactly do you mean combined arms?

What exactly do you mean combined arms?

The fact that he busted out an attack chopper to tear up my Nakíls. In any case *escorts Nakíls with Praetorian IIs anyways and SA-33 Wraith totting armored infantry*.

The fact that he busted out an attack chopper to tear up my Nakíls. In any case *escorts Nakíls with Praetorian IIs anyways and SA-33 Wraith totting armored infantry*.

How good exactly is this tank of yours? It looks awesome... but I really don't want to read eveyrthing there... it's a heck of a lot.

OOC: Geneticon, instead of waiting for so long at RSIN and PIW and QAE, why not simply stick to your own favorite storefronts for the sake of convenience?

And Mac, what is the SA-33 Wraith?

Anyway....

*donates surplus CSJMI SPHs to Hitmen-Zarbian-Stevidian artillery divisions, bombarding the Imperial land units miles away from any other kind of support*

Well, as I said before it would depend on the user. Material wise I consider it superior to most tanks [not wanting to commit a literal fallacy by claiming superior to some tank I really don't know about and is better]... but I'd say that it is the child of a lot of research and incorporates a lot from the projected future main battle tanks, as well as designs that were never truly incorporated for old tanks. In fact, the Nakíl 1B [to come after the A1 makes its debut on A Passion Play...which can be never...depending on the speed of posting... it will come after Ishme-Dagan..way after] is incorporating technologies from the Vietnam War that were dropped due to budget failures! But not trying to boast... well... but yea.... it is probably one of the better tanks depending who uses it and how it's used. It will see a series of updates whenever that part of A Passion Play comes by.. including incorporating part of the techniques of the T-72 autoloader, while still keeping the dual autoloader I have in there, new tracks, and perhaps even taking off the explosive reactive armor [I'll have to make this decision after a lot more research on what would be the alternative... which isn't anything fancy].

And Mac, what is the SA-33 Wraith?


A Mekugian man portable surface to air missile - probably the only piece of foreign equipment I use because I'm too lazy to finish my own [which I drew].

OOC: Geneticon, instead of waiting for so long at RSIN and PIW and QAE, why not simply stick to your own favorite storefronts for the sake of convenience?

And Mac, what is the SA-33 Wraith?

Anyway....

*donates surplus CSJMI SPHs to Hitmen-Zarbian-Stevidian artillery divisions, bombarding the Imperial land units miles away from any other kind of support*

To be frank, if I catch a whiff of IC support, even by you giving them tanks or supplies, I will have no qualms about invading you. Aiding the enemy is considered an act of war against HK. Just for the record.

OOC: Geneticon, instead of waiting for so long at RSIN and PIW and QAE, why not simply stick to your own favorite storefronts for the sake of convenience?


I'm reluctant to, as those storefronts don't have the extensive writeups and designs that Issel and Sarzo have.

Although... I may purchase some of my own stuff. Specifically my fighters.

Safehaven: Ive been trying not to rush you (haveing been busy myself for god knows how long) but This (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10159500&postcount=143) post seems to have been lost in all the commotion. I added a summary to the end as after re-reading it I realized it was somewhat vague, I hope that helps.

And remember, all, to vote 5 stars when you post!

It definetly is that good. Keep up the good work!

Yes invade me H&K. It'll be Vietnam over again. And on steroids.

Anyway, by donate, I mean OOCly recommend them to them.

Just a note--my exit wasn't from the RP entirely--extremely bad wording on my part, even though I've seriously considered it. Its more a way that I am unoffically involved. So the intelligance and spy things are legimate actions.

Safehaven: Ive been trying not to rush you (haveing been busy myself for god knows how long) but This (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10159500&postcount=143) post seems to have been lost in all the commotion. I added a summary to the end as after re-reading it I realized it was somewhat vague, I hope that helps.

I never even sw that. Wow, I'm sorry about that.

Its alright (like I said Life keeps me pretty busy) but I fiquired I should atleast bring it to your attention, its my own fault for forgetting about it.

I'll get to it this weekend then, first thing I do.

Mac, do you have a description of the Morrigan? Also, what damage has it taken so far?

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=453584

Eh, I wasn't sure if you targetted it directly. If anything it's taken fairly light damage, although with that expensive...and crap ... armor it's not very fearful. The idea was to have it knocked out at Mosnoi Bor, and have the second one revamped while other SHBTs and UHBTs fight post-battle elsewhere.

Shit, 17,000 RHA. Ya, the division that had crossed focused everything on it, the thing just attracts fire. These UHBT's are going to make this war insane, just need to pick up some modern ones from NE.

A larger gun should penetrate through that like nothing...diamond is hard, but it's brittle. It'll shatter given enough pressure.

I'm reluctant to, as those storefronts don't have the extensive writeups and designs that Issel and Sarzo have.

Although... I may purchase some of my own stuff. Specifically my fighters.
Well, The Beltway is showing potential as a good shipwright that can take away sales from RSIN, PIW and IPS (as the latter two did to the former), and The Beltway is showing great dedication to his storefronts and making a great effort to making better equipment, so I don't see why you should turn to those already-big big fish. Help TB grow!

Yes invade me H&K. It'll be Vietnam over again. And on steroids.

Anyway, by donate, I mean OOCly recommend them to them.

Well as long as it is OOC, there should not be a problem. Oh, any conflict turned into guerilla warfare, I would just firebomb the place. I wouldn't care too much about the enviroment, war is war.

*watches as HailandKill's good reputation goes down the toilet and into the bottom of the gutter as SEA burns*

*watches as HailandKill's good reputation goes down the toilet and into the bottom of the gutter as SEA burns*

Meh, how can you have a reputation when I only really know 7 nations. No one knows who I am, or what I can do. Meh. If I left tomorow, everyone would be like "who the hell was he anyway?".

You're an SWC nation, remember that? And the SWC is viewed well positively by the most of the global community, and the SWC wouldn't like to see an old friend getting charred alive.

SWC isn't really that well known. Plus it really doesn't exist anymore. Halberdgardia has taken an indefinate leave of absence, Tannenmille hasn't been seen in a long time, McKagan is growing bored with II, and other things.

It sucks, but oh well. I want to be respected dammnit!

McKagan isn't completely bored of II. Hal's old allies [Transnaptaisain and Kaukolastan] from the Directorate have returned, Leafanistan's still somewhat active and Space Union is, despite the fact that the Federative Sikh Republic did little to nothing during the reconstruction and peacekeeping of the former People's Republic of Saharistan.

Anyway, you have a TG to respond to.

From a political alignment course there really isnt much he has to worry about even if he did fire bomb you to hell and back, I mean when you consider that the side hes currently supporting was a major ally of Guffingford and Doomingsland and even I have begun the somewhat random bombing of potentially civilian buisness (oil refineries, water treatment plants, electrical stations, and whatnot) really the gloves are fairly already off in so far as civilian pain and collateral is concerned. Now were not about to just commit mass planned genocide but hey, living in a warzone is hell.

...but to be honest I think this is just a bit off topic...

Can any of you tech buffs give me some constructive criticism (sp?):

http://z13.invisionfree.com/The_NS_Draftroom/index.php?showtopic=1613

SWC isn't really that well known. Plus it really doesn't exist anymore. Halberdgardia has taken an indefinate leave of absence, Tannenmille hasn't been seen in a long time, McKagan is growing bored with II, and other things.

It sucks, but oh well. I want to be respected dammnit!

The RP itself has got 5 stars and get hundreds of readers EVERY day and your a part of it just like everyone else involved. Some of us (me included) who aren't very well known will certainly earn an aweful lot of recognition after this- as long as we RP it well.

Now were not about to just commit mass planned genocide but hey, living in a warzone is hell.

Speak for yourself. :)

Goodness me! Im away for 24hours and I miss all this OOC chat!

Yes SEA has been very good with recommending new pieces of kit to me, however many of those that have been purchased (but secretley and on the forum) won't be in service for quite a while.

First pieces coming in will be QAE Dreadnoughts followed by some Fighters from CSJ and then some other "interesting" kit that i've got from some other sources.

*Maniacal Grin*

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i291/Macabees/Armor/Cougar.png

The fate of the Cougar... it gets a rediculously long turret to fit 40-50 rounds and a 155mm high velocity smoothbore.

you see IH, that's the kind of stuff thast worries me about this up coming ground war. Scary stuff this.

Mekugi, I didn't put exact losses in my post but i'll detail it out in my posts on Aurillac and Mosnoi Bor showing what effects it had.

I'll get Targul Frumos next, I have to go to work soon so I'll start that tonight.

s'okay it was pure logistical strike, and though it may claim some lives im trying to force you to extend your supply lines as far as possible.

again though pardon my posts until monday Im using anothers computer and its not exactly reliable or peticularly capable.

To everyone one in the choir:

Sadly it is going to take longer than expected for me to continuing rping. I should still be able to but things here are pretty bad. A close friend who i went to school with was killed on Friday by a lorry late at night..... he was only 17..... Shockwaves were sent through everyone at school, his family and in our Church. Most of us have only just grasped what has happened.

Seeing as it is all so sudden and devestating, we're all waiting for reports from the Police and arangements have to be made so i won't always have time to write posts. It shouldn't take more than a week but i hope you understand.... thank you kindly

Take as much time as you need and more.

Take your time Stevid, thats definetely more important.



As for my new post, i know I said I was going to do Targul Frumos, but I was talking to H&K about this last night so I just started doing this instead. H&K, if you want any of it changed just tell me.

You still need to respond to my ground attacks as well. The rest of the post looks fine, with everything we talked about included with nothing taken advantage of.

If I were to come in from the north with C-130's to airdrop supplies, how much interception would I get?

And Mac, get your ass on MSN.

IRC is better.

I'll get a post with a more personal view of the bombings up soon.

I take it Haven is going to be hated? TM, how many civilian casualties we talking, cause Aurillac was a pretty big city?

Well if I hate you ICly for killing about 1.5million logistical, unarmed troops, I think Mac isn't going to be happy about tens of millions of deaths.

Post about the aftermath coming soon.

If 4/5ths of the city was destroyed [numbers HK and I are talking about on MSN] that's 18.5 million dead...assuming not EVERYTHING died in what was hit I'd say it's closer to around 16-17 million. 20 million Russian civilians died in WWII... hate is a soft word. :) But it should make the RP MUCH more interesting...and I can start to draw propaganda posters! I'm still working on exact casualties...

Shit, well you said this war was going to be bloody.

Were the munitions air burst or ground burst?

The first big one was air burst, the rest are a mixture, the majority being ground burst.

Haven, what SAMs do you use?

ADLP-8 Celtic (AirDefence Laser Platform)

Builder: Hyland-Nikolaas Industries.
Length: 8m
Width: 4m
Height: 3m
Weight: 29t
Engine: Johannes/Cummings QMK-IV
Range: Unlimited, 4 week endurance on road.
Speed: 40mph
Armament: 1 "Skysweeper" MIL-5 (Laser), 8 11M934M-A Skyhigh Surface to Air missiles, 2 Side-Sponson based 23mm guns.
Armour:800mm RHA against KE, 1600mm against HEAT. All if NxRA is added.

11M934M-A Skyhigh Surface to Air missile: This is a 3.6m long SAM missile, with a range of 150km. The Missiles make use of AAW, Thrust Vectoring, and forward engine nozzles at the tip of the missile. The Skyhigh is capable of +80G turns, thanks to the AAW wings allowing the missile to remain structurally stable. Guidance is an independant RADAR/LIDAR/LADAR seeker head, which can fall back onto an IR/Thermal and Optical. The Skyhigh also has a data-uplink to the parent vehicle, allowing for a crossreference in information. This effectively creates a Bi-static Radar, allowing for the easy detection of stealth aircraft out to 200km. The RADAR itself is capable of passive detection during flight, and homing during terminal. Should CHAFFs be launched, the missile will switch between LIDAR/LADAR, and IR. Should FLARES be deployed, the missile will finally resort to Optical to finish the job. The missile makes use of a 50kg warhead, also containing 128 2" ballbearings. Upon Proximty detonation, the missile will explode when within 15ft of the plane. The ballbearings will be traveling at mach 4 at the least, and do considerable damage to the aircraft, including incapacitation of the Pilot. The top speed of the Skyhigh is Mach 3.6, and top altitude is 67,600ft. Minimum Engagement Altitude is 10.6ft.

"Skysweeper" MIL-5 This is a chemical based laser, similar to the THEL system developed by Israel. The lasers power is 700KW's, meaning it can virtually destroy any missile or aircraft it lays its sights on. The MIL-5 has a range of 120 to 160km in good weather conditions.

The Celtic runs on a QMK-IV QNFR drive. This allows the vehicle extended periods of deployment, and the high-powered radar and systems can run off the QNFR drive. Because of this, you get detection at a range of 250km, and stealth detection at 200km.

The Celtic uses a form of NSI to defeat active stealth.

Okay thanks. :) I'll have a post up tomorrow, or if I do get some time today I'll do it. But it will definitely be up by tomorrow afternoon.

Ouch Stevid. Go sort out your RL problems first, they're much more important than NS.

The guys said it Stevid, take as long as you need.


With regards my latest post its a little iffy I know, exam season is nearly upon me so revision has had to take preference! Im hoping to still keep going and keep the posting up throughout though, they are pretty spread out :)

IH, do you want to rp a conference or how do you want to do it?

SU, my planes fired before the SAM's:p Doesn't really matter though, liked how you worked it out. Where are your planes based at? Also, I take it your planes fired about the same time mine did?

IH, do you want to rp a conference or how do you want to do it?

SU, my planes fired before the SAM's:p Doesn't really matter though, liked how you worked it out. Where are your planes based at? Also, I take it your planes fired about the same time mine did?

Oh sorry, it just said in your post that the SAMs would arrive before the AAM, so meh. :p Thanks by the way, I spent yesterday figuring out the calculations so that's why I didn't get the post up sooner.

My planes are based in airfields around the city of Aurillac and yes I fired my missiles around the same time as yours. Hope that helps. :)

I can see how they'd take you a while. Are those two wings the only SU deployment in the area so far? I probaly won't respond till later in the week, I still have to do the ground part of Aurillac and I have to finally get around to Targul Frumos.

About the ground part, if you need the map I made to clarify things let me know and I will send it to ya.

If you have it on hand and already made send it over, you don't have to make one if you don't have one.

Ok... both my orders have been confirmed, and my navy/airforce has pretty much been acquired. Will make an IC post as soon as I get the chance.

If you have it on hand and already made send it over, you don't have to make one if you don't have one.

No its made. When I upload it, I will put it on this thread.

So wait? We have a new combatant in the war?

Is their a city or something i could attack while i wait for Ishme Dagan, i want to try out my new supercool seige weapons

The guys said it Stevid, take as long as you need.

Ouch Stevid. Go sort out your RL problems first, they're much more important than NS.

Cheers everyone- thanks for your understanding people. Very grateful to all of you.

No one has completly recovered but it is getting easier- i'll have a post up sometime before/on Saturday.

So wait? We have a new combatant in the war?

Oceanaria is me... the puppet I use for passion play.

Technically I was supposed to be fighting long since now, but orders were not processed and set me back a bit. I'll be up and ready to go soon though.

Is their a city or something i could attack while i wait for Ishme Dagan, i want to try out my new supercool seige weapons

No.

IH, do you want to rp a conference or how do you want to do it?


I was thinking we could talk it out on MSN with Stevid (obviously he may not be able to attend with the situation) and then we can all just act off of that. That does however assume that you have MSN though!

Guys, I might be gone from June to no clue when [until I can get a computer]. I'm not sure when I'm leaving either..but June is a safe month.

Guys, I might be gone from June to no clue when [until I can get a computer]. I'm not sure when I'm leaving either..but June is a safe month.

To keep on this subject, I'll be gone from June 3rd to August 2nd.

July 9th-July 19th for me!

I was thinking we could talk it out on MSN with Stevid (obviously he may not be able to attend with the situation) and then we can all just act off of that. That does however assume that you have MSN though!

MSN is good, vhayek18@hotmail.com



Guys, I might be gone from June to no clue when [until I can get a computer]. I'm not sure when I'm leaving either..but June is a safe month.

Buy yourself a laptop. I finally start getting back into this rp and your leaving.

Problem is that I'll be in boot camp. I'm becoming a tanker in the Spanish Army. :(

Would it be acceptable for me to accelerate time a little and consider my fleets (which are being built now) to already be delivered? Just for purposes of this RP. That way I can begin getting them in the area.

Sure. We can assume you bought them years before the war.

Would it be possible to get all the 'allied' nations together, perhaps on my regional forums, to discuss the alliance? Possibly get down some terms OOCly and discuss the future... that way:

A) We get a unique name for us.
B) Get the future together and work for greater cooperation.
C) Get a cool treaty on 'paper'

Would it be possible to get all the 'allied' nations together, perhaps on my regional forums, to discuss the alliance? Possibly get down some terms OOCly and discuss the future... that way:

A) We get a unique name for us.
B) Get the future together and work for greater cooperation.
C) Get a cool treaty on 'paper'

Sounds good to me. We need a name.

Anyways, how was my first post that is really part of the RP?

Also, fleet is ready and moving out. I will enter right below Lame Bums on the map. Where can I rendevous with your forces, and where is most of the fighting taking place?

It was really good! I especially liked the first part... can't really find the big word for it...but I liked it!

And if interested, here is the link:

modernwarstudies.net/greaterdienstad

Just register and I'll get the thread up soon. If people don't want to do it there, start suggesting!

Geneticon, how ships are there in your fleet and could you supply the classes and types if possible?

Geneticon, how ships are there in your fleet and could you supply the classes and types if possible?

Here she is (most of it... it needs a little tweaking to be done later):

Oceanaria Military

Super Dreadnaughts:

[15] Independence-class pocket SD (BBGN)

Submarines:

[20] Hunter Class Submarine
[84] Nowotny Class SSN
[20] Chamberlain Class SSBN
[300] Navarre-class nuclear powered attack submarines (SSN)
[150] Relentless-class nuclear powered ballistic missile submarines (SSBN)
[300] Insurgent-class special operations submarines

Aircraft Carriers:

[12] Union Class CVBN
[3] Hornby Class CVLN
[15] Benatar-class heavy carrier (CVAN)
[60] Victory-class fleet carriers (CVN)
[30] Swiftsure-class light carriers (CVL)

Battleships:

[6] Kingdom Class BBAN
[33] King Henry V Class BBGN
[75] Trinity-class nuclear powered battleships (BBGN)

Battlecruisers:

[15] Princess Class CBGN

Cruisers:

[3] Castle Class CAGN
[12] Duchy Class CAG
[54] Morrigan Class CGN
[75] General Dent-class large cruisers (BC)
[150] Agrippa-class heavy missile cruisers (CAGN)
[225] Shield Bearer-class missile cruisers (CG)

Escorts:

[174] Wallace Class DDG (GP)
[246] Bullfinch Class FFH
[300] Samuel B. Roberts-class destroyers (DDN)
[375] Wixted-class frigates (FF)
[450] Pickering-class corvettes (FL)
[750] Piranha-class fast missile boats
[375] Ossippee-class special operations boats (50 RIBs/50 CRRCs included)

Command and Control Ships:

[3] Cernunnos Class BCN
[6] Admiral Class CCN
[21] Siren Class AGI

Auxiliaries:

[21] Lem Class AFS
[75] Smith Class AOE
[21] Guinness Class AOEN
[16] Aylesburgh Class AS
[150] Lake-class mine clearance vessels

Fighters:

[288] Scimitar F.2
[210] Sea Fury FA.1
[576] Spectre FA.1
[576] Spectre FA.2
[192] Banshee ADS.1
[144] Wraith EF.1

Strike Aircraft:

[288] Swordfish S.1

Surveillance Aircraft:

[96] Heimdall AEW.1
[81] Njord MRA.1 long-range maritime patrol aircraft

Support Aircraft:

[96] Gannet C.1 carrier on-board delivery aircraft

Attack Helicopters:

[348] Sparrow HA.1

Surveillance Helicopters:

[93] Cormorant HEW.2 heliborne early warning
[1266] Cormorant HM.1 multipurpose maritime helicopter

Transport Helicopters:

[12] Condor HC.1 heavy-lift
[417] Cormorant HC.3 medium-lift

UAVs:

[276] Auk DHM.1
[240] Parrot DES.1
[120] Puffin DHEW.1
[288] Rook DRA.2
[102] Tern DA.2
[444] Thrush DFA.1

UGVs:

[228] Ferret DLM.1

On-board (UOVs):

[2316] Canary DMNC.1
[5951] Dodo DMU.1

UUVs:

[1518] Cuttlefish DSR.1
[2550] Cuttlefish DSR.1A
[78] Seahorse DSA.1
[660] Squid DSM.1

Stevid... would it be possible for my fleet to find your fleet ICly, and then maybe have a battle? Maybe the second battle of Otium Aqua... or wherever we meet.

Where is your fleet at the moment?

Fuck me! I hope that's your whole Navy and not just one fleet.

I think we should wait until Mac nukes my port because this will be a lot to cope with i;ve got RL stuff, ground force movements, nukingg a port and this as well and exams.... gonna be a lot to get through.

After the attack on Porstmouth I'll give you all the info you need- it shouldn't take more than 2 or 3 days.

Mac: Are these the kinda nuke that blow cities apart or are these small tactical nuclear bombs? (i can't remember).

Geneticion, that navy is way to big for a nation your size, 15 SD's, over a hundred carriers and another hundred+ plus battleships.

Geneticion, that navy is way to big for a nation your size, 15 SD's, over a hundred carriers and another hundred+ plus battleships.

Realize this is Oceanaria's, not Geneticon's.

Considering it's my entire navy that was acquired over 30, it's certainly possible. That's if your worried about my ability to pay for it. If you're worried about man power, a draft has been enstated in Oceanaria.

Considering that's probably all I'm going to have in the war, I think it's legit. If most of it sinks, I'm in trouble.

Plus, most of it from Sarz and Isell, and if they Ok it, I think it's ok.

Mac: Are these the kinda nuke that blow cities apart or are these small tactical nuclear bombs? (i can't remember).

Tactical... but they're going to be big enough to blow the port and send shockwaves through the closer part of town... if you have any big tankers that could be a ... huge... explosive problem.

I wonder if i can redo that landing thing that Safehaven didnt reply to just before his computer broke, i want to use my Air Cavalry and seige divisions

You can go ahead, although with New Empire in the war trying something down there might be a bit different.

You can go ahead, although with New Empire in the war trying something down there might be a bit different.

He's on your side?

I will get that Aurillac map ASAP so you can respond better.

SH2, is your entire fleet still bottled up in Targal Fromos?
If it is does that mean i can land in the Denmark-esque area almost uncontested?
What sort of terrain and population centres are there in that area

No, not my entire fleet, but all of the capital ships based in Haven are in the Targul Frumos, although one of the fleets isn't bottled up but in fact trying to break in. I do still have subs, destroyers and other smaller ships along with private ships, Haven actively encourages, licenes and supplies privateers, its detailed in an rp that happened a while ago(Can't remember the name, was pretty good though). Most of their ships are obselecent though.

You'll be contested, although not enough to stop you from landing.

Same terrain as real although much less countryside, and it is heavily populated, all of central Haven is densly populated.

12th Army
History: The 12th Army has often been considered the only 'crack' infantry the Monotheistic Republic has. The Army is the only one to have survived almost a thousand years of military disorganization and has often been called upon by whomever is in power in Jagada to control the homeland, fight foreign wars. Due to the overwhelming bleak situtation that Jagites may face in the Golden Throne, the 12th Army is being brought in. They have never been up against 'equal' oppenents so its difficult to tell how they'd fair.
Commander: The Imperial Fist
Total Troop Number: 100,000

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33rd CorpsCommander: Tokyo Emori
Total Troop Number: 30,000

14th DivisonCommander: Niigata Okita
Total Troop Number: 15,000
Order of Battle44th Brigade (Infantry)
1st Brigade (Infantry)
67th Brigade (Anti-Tank Infantry)

30th Divison
Commander: Ito Baku
Total Troop Number: 15,000
Order of Battle19th Brigade (Mechanized Infantry)
51st Brigade (Mechanized Infantry)
72nd Brigade (Mechanized Armor)

9th CorpsCommander: Shizuoka Gaku
Total Troop Number: 30,000

22nd Divison
Commander: Nagano Wataru
Total Troop Number: 15,000
Order of Battle14th Brigade (Infantry)
33rd Brigade (Infantry)
21st Brigade (Heavy Infantry)

34th Divison
Commander: Yamagata Akihito
Total Troop Number: 15,000
Order of Battle
27th Brigade (Light Infantry)
38th Brigade (Light Infantry)
11th Brigade (Light Infantry)

4th Corps
Commander: Shiga Aito
Total Troop Number: 30,000

16th Divison
Commander: Hyogo Okito
Total Troop Number: 15,000
Order of Battle
77th Brigade (Armor)
14th Brigade (Armor)
44th Brigade (Armor)

49th DivisonCommander: Tokushima Yasunari
Total Troop Number: 15,000
Order of Battle
69th Brigade (Armor)
25th Brigade (Armor)
54th Brigade (Armor)

Okay Mac, i've RPed the damage to my harbour.
Now I think i've adadquetly Rped the destruction of shipping and most of the key sides and docks along with the dock yard facilities, and the entrance to the harbour.

However, that damage to the city is slight because i though the nukes were detonated in such away that the harbour would be destroyed and not most of the city. If i'm wrong and I need to add a bit more damage...then just just say.

Thanks... OH and I hope the post is good ;)

Spizania, were are your bombers coming in from? and how far away is your fleet, cause its definetely not two hours away from my coast.

They came from my homeland.

And my fleet is approaching your coast, two hours is the time to when i can start launching landing ships and choppers, so im about eleven hours out at the moment

ATTN region:

http://modernwarstudies.net/greaterdienstad/viewtopic.php?p=28#28

There is is Mac, the flag. I think it should be the final one... if you're happy with it.

Geneticon, where exactly would your fleet be on the Imperial Armies map?

I keep thiking it is in the south of the region- East of Tir.... however you might be coming south of me heading west towards The Macabees...

I'm not sure.

Geneticon, where exactly would your fleet be on the Imperial Armies map?

I keep thiking it is in the south of the region- East of Tir.... however you might be coming south of me heading west towards The Macabees...

I'm not sure.

I'm just south of the island with the place called "Camos" on the region map... is that the correct map?

If so, yes it's in the south east part of the map. I'm south east of Stevid.

Just to make sure I am using the correct map, we are still working off the one that is linked to on the Greater Dienstad regional page yes?

If that is correct, I am a little unsure as to the where abouts of Danish Haven? I think its their west coast, but im unsure of where it is along that coast North-South. I ask because I was hoping to have a little naval battle around there! :)

Its the bit of Safehaven2 that looks like Denmark on the western coast

We should be using this map:

http://modernwarstudies.net/map.jpg

We should be using this map:

http://modernwarstudies.net/map.jpg

Cool... that's the one I'm using.

Geneticon, do you have a reference thread or a link to a site to the information on the ships in your fleet.

I've been combing around a few storefront but i can't find any info on the vessels. Could you provide?

It's just so i know what i could be up against-

Geneticon, do you have a reference thread or a link to a site to the information on the ships in your fleet.

I've been combing around a few storefront but i can't find any info on the vessels. Could you provide?

It's just so i know what i could be up against-

Everything is from either Royal Shipyards of Isselmere-Nieland v.3 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=361894), DMG Military Industries Storefront (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=440478), or Sarz's Portland Iron Works version 3.0 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=457777).

All respectable players with good equipment. I have the links all on my computer, but you can find most of them easily enough at those storefronts.

right then.. cheers!

right then.. cheers!

BTW... any info on your ships/navy?

Map has been updated:

http://modernwarstudies.net/map.jpg

You might need to refresh it

I am forced to announce that I may not be able to roleplay in this RP after all. I may be conquored by Cruxium and his Coalition. So if um...I don't post, you know why.

Wish me luck, I'm up against a 6 billionarie, with no allies on my side. Not to mention a 2 billionaries, a 400 millionaire, and Xerph and whatever he is.

Anybody wanting to show sympathy for me feel free to help out. If not, then it was cool rping with yawl when I did.

What are the names of these nations?

Cruxium
Dontgonearthere
Wolfensland
Xeraph

I have a nation called Kanami who is offically supporting me--but I am not sure if he/she will provide military assistance.

All of this because Cruxium banned religion and I want him to legalize it. Lol. I'm surprised the bleeding liberal democracies didn't run to my aid--I guess banning God is OK, but you ban Abortion and the Hippy Alliances dogpile you. Eh, or may I just have a cynical outlook.

Don't worry Jagada, you're next to an extremely militant nation that is nearly pathological in its distrust of foreign interventions in its own region...

And I have the vast majority of my armed forces on standby to open cans of Mark I asskicking.

:) Yay! I won't get conquored! Well not by Cruxium at least. ;)

Cruxium
Dontgonearthere
Wolfensland
Xeraph

I have a nation called Kanami who is offically supporting me--but I am not sure if he/she will provide military assistance.

Kanami is a trustworthy nation. I've RPed with him before and he's just getting into bigger RP's all the time. I dunno the extent of his military forces (not big enough for me to worry about ;) No offense Kanami if your reading :P) but you've got a good polictical ally.

Good Luck I guess

BTW... any info on your ships/navy?

All in the signature. I can't be bothered to update each and every last ship thread i wrote so all updates are on the latest news part of the forum.

Geneticion, how far from my coast is your fleet going to be when you go beneath Haven?

Geneticion, how far from my coast is your fleet going to be when you go beneath Haven?

As far as possible.

I'm going to send the fleet that has been sitting at Beda Fromm to escort him.

Wait, is Geneticion's fleet going from where Guffingford is to the Macabee side of me or the other way around?

He's heading under Tir, and then coming up the long way to avoid all those pesky submarines and aircraft raids from four different countries that you find going the short way.

Which way is he going though, and where is he going, west or east?

Sh, when you going to get up a reply? Not to be pesky. :)

West of you.

That's a very long way isn't it.

If his fleet was off that island with Camos on it and now he's setting sail around the bottom of Tir and up the western part of Tir to reach Safehaven.

No... that a massive distance... in fact that's the entire breadth of the region!

I would tend to agree... But sadly there is no scale for the map. Approximately how long would that be?

Very...very... very long. Maybe four-five days if you're sailing constantly. I would say longer than the breadth of the Atlantic. But... it's the safest route. That's the only area where I have ocean going superiority [while Haven's fleet is bottled up, that is].

Ok... I obviously need to modify my IC post then.

So... I know we use fluid time, but about how long (RL) until my force arrives?