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hmm, if there's gonna be a new thread then i may have to formalise the Spooty War inspector and make his posts better than *does this* "says this"

I will give you one.

The problem is that my nation is not near any large body of water. Unless my nation somehows poofs into a new region, we're going to need a port.

Hmmm ? Well its a chance im willing to take.

Uhhh...okay, you're willing to risk getting your shit ruined by the big guns, but maybe we could get back to the RPing. Now there's about four pages of pointless OOC arguing. GRRR. Either do one of the things you've threatened to do, like trying to RP hitmen getting into Borman, or trying to obtain nuclear weapons, or go away, because some of us Borman allies signed on for the chance to do some stomping, and you're depriving us of that. Fight or die.

Can we get on with it already? We're running out of beer.

I have an idea, lets ferment some, maybe the new thread might be up by the time it is done!

How about we just play a game. I say something, then you say the first thing that pops into your head.

Pringles.

Dont worry, these guys will take outpostcommand-

DUdes (http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/7093/noob7ba.png)

very nice, but I am not gonna post more tonight im going to bed.

Claymore!

Your turn.

In responce to a previous post about my 'Tiny navy', well, yes I do have a small underfunded navy due to the fact that I do not concentrate most of my funds towards the navy.

listen, I've been following this thread carefully,
why are you attacking these nations bigger than yourselves?
It seem rather pointless!
This guy could take on you army by himself...

http://www.decadentplace.org.uk/photos/19990731-CCDE/Dog-village-idiot.jpg

And as for the The Helghan Empire,
they have no economy,
thus...no military

And as for the The Helghan Empire,
they have no economy,
thus...no military
Which means I am not as weak as you think, as I have an "all-consuming" economy, and a GDP of 7,018,800,000,000 swillas ($12 trillion).

whether you have a 9.999999 gazillion GDP or a 25 dollar one you defense budget is still SEVERELY LACKING

Defence: $137,009,596,428.68 10%

whether you have a 9.999999 gazillion GDP or a 25 dollar one you defense budget is still SEVERELY LACKING

Defence: $137,009,596,428.68 10%
You would call 137 billion severly lacking??

why yes I do.

compare

Defence: $137,009,596,428.68 10%
to
Defence: $18,830,678,017,536.00 45%

why yes I do.

compare

Defence: $137,009,596,428.68 10%
to
Defence: $18,830,678,017,536.00 45%
Well, my defence spending is right where it should be, which is 10%. If it is too high, the other parts of your nation (ex. Commerce, Education, Healthcare), do not have enough fundin, and your nation could collapse if a nation falling was part of the game. Do not say that my millitary is underfunded.

Well, my defence spending is right where it should be, which is 10%. If it is too high, the other parts of your nation (ex. Commerce, Education, Healthcare), do not have enough fundin, and your nation could collapse if a nation falling was part of the game. Do not say that my millitary is underfunded.

Even still you have an uphill battle right now against the bormans. Should be fun to see though, and hopefully for you fun to actually do.

Looking at how big this war is getting, I'm suprised Skincher hasn't got involved yet.
(For all those that don't know, Skincher is an arms dealer. He once sold me 15 Skipjack cannon with 50 rounds each for a very good price, right when I needed them. He pops up in wars like this and sells stuff to anyone who needs it)

Oh he has, at least on my part.

Oh he has, at least on my part.

Occ: Well that has yet to be seen. :p And with his popluation (unless it's not the 9 million nation I just saw) I wouldn't be suprised if the Bormans were the ones supplying him. :p

Hmmm ?
The Rouge Nation Of Skincher has requested I post this for them.
They has been unable to post due to some difficulties.


A lone figure stood in front of the OutpostCommand Headquarters building on the Helghan planet. The sentry had no idea where the man had come from, or how long he had been standing there. All he knew was that the last time he had looked at the road leading to the Headquarters building, there had been no-one in sight, save for another sentry at the far end of the building. Now, there was a man standing there, no more then two metres from the sentry.
"Wha...? Who...? How...?"
"I am Skincher," the man said simply. "I am expected."
The sentry tried to reassemble his thoughts.
"I... You..." He shook himself mentally. "This way, please."
"Of course."
The sentry remembered now - he had been told to keep an eye out for the enigmatic arms dealer. Only, he had expected him to arrive in some sort of vehicle, which would have made a noise and given him much more of a warning. He had also expected him to appear outside the perimeter fence.

A few minutes later, General Hamilton faced Skincher across a Table in a small meeting room. He sized the man up.
He was of average height, average weight - in fact, the man was thoroughly average. His face, his voice - everything about him was perfectly ordinary. He was the kind of man with whom you could hold an hour-long conversation and then forget almost instantly. Which was precisely the effect Skincher wanted.
"So," said Skincher, breaking the silence. "To business."

Dont worry, these guys will take outpostcommand-

DUdes (http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/7093/noob7ba.png)




LOL...that pic is now apart of my collection.

OOC:
This is boring me. I should launch all of my 400,000 Super Sonic cruise missiles at him. But then that would be a waste of ammo.....

But isnt that just plain unrealistic ?
40 supersonic cruise missiles maybe, but not 400, definitely not 4000, lets not even go to 40,000, let alone to 400,000.
Plus that would leave you open to attack from other nations, as you would have no cruise missiles left, and a operation like that would cost something in the region of trillions.
Also, if you somehow DID manage to fire off such a ludicrous amount, then AM systems would make short work of you missiles.
How ? Well, theres a long way and a short way.
The long way, which is impossible to happen, is AM systems will have to constantly fire AM missiles at your cruise missiles.
The short way, which will happen like it or not, is I only have to fire one AM missile, and that will destroy one of your incoming cruise missiles, and all surrounding cruise missiles will be destroyed causing a chain reaction probably destroying all/most of you incoming missiles.

It would be common to have 40 cruise missles on ONE missle cruiser, my friend. You need to get some facts straight. having 400,000 cruise missles in one attack is a bit much, but having 4000 missles in one attack is not a problem, especcially for people the size of Me, Borman, and others. Plus he was speaking OOC. 400,000 missles in your entire inventory is quite possible though.

occ: Just wondering how this one is going to start out, with an actual attempt at an invasion of the Bormans, or a mad rush to see who overruns outpost first?

outpost I thought you said you would post your allies today

The Rouge Nation Of Skincher has requested I post this for them.
They has been unable to post due to some difficulties.
That explains it.


A lone figure stood in front of the OutpostCommand Headquarters building on the Helghan planet. The sentry had no idea where the man had come from, or how long he had been standing there. All he knew was that the last time he had looked at the road leading to the Headquarters building, there had been no-one in sight, save for another sentry at the far end of the building. Now, there was a man standing there, no more then two metres from the sentry.
"Wha...? Who...? How...?"
"I am Skincher," the man said simply. "I am expected."
The sentry tried to reassemble his thoughts.
"I... You..." He shook himself mentally. "This way, please."
"Of course."
The sentry remembered now - he had been told to keep an eye out for the enigmatic arms dealer. Only, he had expected him to arrive in some sort of vehicle, which would have made a noise and given him much more of a warning. He had also expected him to appear outside the perimeter fence.

A few minutes later, General Hamilton faced Skincher across a Table in a small meeting room. He sized the man up.
He was of average height, average weight - in fact, the man was thoroughly average. His face, his voice - everything about him was perfectly ordinary. He was the kind of man with whom you could hold an hour-long conversation and then forget almost instantly. Which was precisely the effect Skincher wanted.
"So," said Skincher, breaking the silence. "To business."
That is so Skincher's style.
By the way, did he say anything about a truckload of anti-submarine mines? I gave him some (they were part of my payment for some TLS alloy used in making ship armor) and I was wondering what he wanted with them. Probably sold them to someone. Was it you?

occ: Just wondering how this one is going to start out, with an actual attempt at an invasion of the Bormans, or a mad rush to see who overruns outpost first?

His fleet starts 700 miles off the coast of Borman.

No, he didnt mention any anti-submarine mines.
Sigh...will you people at least give me the honour of me being located on The Helghan Planet, not this piece of land you call 'Earth'.
Oh, and The Helghan Empire has requested I post this for them.

General Lente - Second in Command of The Helghan Empire, Supreme Leader of The Helghan Army - had departed from military camps to meet Scolar Visari - Supreme Leader of The Helghan Empire - at the Helghan Headquarters in Helghan that night. Lente arrived via a Dropship. He was escorted by ten Bodygaurds. His Bodygaurds are each armed with: a StA-52 LAR, IvP-18 Tropov Machine Pistol, Helghast Hunting Knife, and three HE Fragmentation Grenades. Lente, himself, is armed with a Machine Pistol.
The Bodygaurds first jumped out of the dropship as it landed on a Launch Pad, near the Headquarters. There were Helghast Base Soldiers and Elites patrolling everywhere and Sentry Bots placed around the area. A Helghast Base Soldier walked up to Lente. He said - more like yell because of the noise, "Follow me, General - Scolar Visari is waiting as we speak!"
Lente followed the soldier, despite being here dozens of time, up to the Headquarters. The building was made out of steel.
9 minuted later, Scolar Visari and General Lente were face-to-face in a grey meeting room. Scolar Visari was dressed in his Helghast uniform. His face pale and his head bald. But as a matter of fact: Everyone who is Helghast was bald. The soldiers; the citizens - male and female.
They shook hands because they have not met in a month and a half. "Now, to business," Visari said.
They sat down on two chairs with a glass table in between them."How goes the military and their training."
"Well in a matter of weeks, I will be ready to dispatch them into the Borman Empire," Lente said in a serious voice. Both of them always sounded that way. "With your command, that is. They are ready for combat."
"What news of General Peterson?"
"His troops ready for open war and has always been ready to defeat them."
"And what is your goal when troops are deployed into the Borman Empire?"
"Capture infastructure, dispose most of Borman's Army, and break the spirit of Borman citizens. The citizens will be broken and flee from the Borman Empire and this war."
"And how will you make sure of this?" Visari continued to question.
"We will kill any civilian we can find."
"Another question: What if most of your men are killed before they can reach Borman soil?"
"We don't know if it is possible, but we will try to sneek pass their defenses. And besides: Our Attack Ships's armor is completely reinforced. It shall take a while for artillery can destroy it. And if they can try to destroy them in the sky: They will fall into Borman territory and destroy a large amount of buildings and people. It would best if they would only attack the men deployed than try to destroy the Ships."
"Good."

No, he didnt mention any anti-submarine mines.
Sigh...will you people at least give me the honour of me being located on The Helghan Planet, not this piece of land you call 'Earth'.
Oh, and The Helghan Empire has requested I post this for them.





OOC:OMG!!! Man if you do that then the war is FT we are all playing MT....we are playing on earth for this not space.

War starts tommorow right?

Damn I really want to be in this war.

But...but...sigh....im too tired too argue...
Yes...war starts tommorow, and Borman should inform us of the name for the new thread.
Oh...and if you refuse me the right to play FT, then like it or not, im playing PMT, no...i said like it or not !
(Eg:My army uses OICWs, not M4s, or any of that.)
Oh....and for any invaders of our land, weve got a little suprise waiting for them.
(Clue to The Helghan Empire : (Scolar Visari's speech)"At first it weakened us, but in fact, we were growing stronger...")

OOC: please note then that in PMT you can use OICWs but NO PLANET HOPING,the war is on earth.

But...but...sigh....im too tired too argue...
Yes...war starts tommorow, and Borman should inform us of the name for the new thread.
Oh...and if you refuse me the right to play FT, then like it or not, im playing PMT, no...i said like it or not !
(Eg:My army uses OICWs, not M4s, or any of that.)
Oh....and for any invaders of our land, weve got a little suprise waiting for them.
(Clue to The Helghan Empire : (Scolar Visari's speech)"At first it weakened us, but in fact, we were growing stronger...")

Thats why my army uses gas masks. They look kind of like helghast troops.

I was not refering to the air.

I was not refering to the air.

Oh...right then.

Back to the front!
You will do what I say, when I say.
Back to the front!
You will die when I say, you must die.
Back to the front!
You coward!
You servant!
You blindman!

Hold on, The Helghast troop design is copyright to The Helghan Empire.
It is not for sale to other nations.
Are you saying you have copied the Helghast troop design and duplicated it ?

Hold on, The Helghast troop design is copyright to The Helghan Empire.
Are you saying you are using the Helghast troop design for no apparent reason ?

"They look kind of like helghast troops."

I never said we used your equipment. I just said that our troops look similar.

Sir, what is your last post supposed to mean ?

Hmmmm...

Sir, what is your last post supposed to mean ?

Our troops have gas masks. I meant that the gas masks makes our troops look similar to the Helghans. Unless you have the production rights to all the gas masks on the fuckin planet, I don't see a problem.

No, not that post, the one before it.

Ahh...those are lyrics from the song Disposable Heroes.
Our nations declare war without ever caring about the individual soldier. We never care about what music he liked, what he did in his spare time, or what kind of beer he drank. To us, he is just a tool. A tool we can use for our own selfish needs. How sad.

Oh...right then.

Back to the front!
You will do what I say, when I say.
Back to the front!
You will die when I say, you must die.
Back to the front!
You coward!
You servant!
You blindman!

That song kicks 7 million metric tons of ass.

That song kicks 7 million metric tons of ass.

Hell yeah!

*high five*

I see

Im a hypocrite. I support war! :D

Doublethink FTW!

Teh Hax, are you a spectator, or are you on a side ?

Teh Hax, are you a spectator, or are you on a side ?

AFAIK im not in this war. Unless Borman says otherwise, im just gonna sit here and drink beer.

:)

ZOMG JOO H4X!!!11

OOC: please note then that in PMT you can use OICWs but NO PLANET HOPING,the war is on earth.

OCC: forgive me for my ignorance here, but what is are OICWs. That, and this should be good to see, especially if I can have a ship off to the side watching the fun as a spectator.

http://world.guns.ru/assault/as40-e.htm

They are an experimental combat weapon, technically MT, but not implemented yet in the US Army. Extremely expensive and complex. I doubt he could afford it unless he was PMT and this was common.

http://world.guns.ru/assault/as40-e.htm

They are an experimental combat weapon, technically MT, but not implemented yet in the US Army. Extremely expensive and complex. I doubt he could afford it unless he was PMT and this was common.

Wow, now that is a nice freaking gun. Note to self equip my army with them when I get the cash.

Im sure it would be, but any unidentified ship or aircraft entering OutpostCommands seas/airspace will be shotdown.
A OICW is a 'Objective Individual Combat Weapon'.
Follow this link for a look.
http://www.circlevision.org/alliantaction/atk/scoop/oicw/pmoicw.jpg

Wow, now that is a nice freaking gun. Note to self equip my army with them when I get the cash.

OOC: Disadvantages, technically complex, needs a lot of training, and it heavy. Also vunerable to EMPs, rendering most of the gun a heavy paperweight.

OOC: Disadvantages, technically complex, needs a lot of training, and it heavy. Also vunerable to EMPs, rendering most of the gun a heavy paperweight.

True but, well trained troops with those things can do some damage, and do that many people throw emps around like candy here?

But isnt that just plain unrealistic ?
40 supersonic cruise missiles maybe, but not 400, definitely not 4000, lets not even go to 40,000, let alone to 400,000.
Plus that would leave you open to attack from other nations, as you would have no cruise missiles left, and a operation like that would cost something in the region of trillions.
Also, if you somehow DID manage to fire off such a ludicrous amount, then AM systems would make short work of you missiles.
How ? Well, theres a long way and a short way.
The long way, which is impossible to happen, is AM systems will have to constantly fire AM missiles at your cruise missiles.
The short way, which will happen like it or not, is I only have to fire one AM missile, and that will destroy one of your incoming cruise missiles, and all surrounding cruise missiles will be destroyed causing a chain reaction probably destroying all/most of you incoming missiles.

How horribly wrong you are. First, he has the funds to spend say $400 billion on cruise missiles (figure $1 million per missile) and to deploy them. You don't have the funds to operate an anti-missile system with your current army (see my last post) so you can't claim to shoot them down while maintaining the claim to anti-matter and a 7,000,000 man army, and even if you could, you don't have the funds to own, much less fire the number of missiles needed to intercept all of them.

Oh, and the little bit about one missile destroying 400,000 is bullshit, as missile interceptors are primarily kinetic-energy weapons (i.e. they don't go bang) and if they did go bang, it's hardly enough to cover miles and miles needed to impact wave upon wave of incoming weapons. What cartoon did you get that idea from?

But...but...sigh....im too tired too argue...
Yes...war starts tommorow, and Borman should inform us of the name for the new thread.
Oh...and if you refuse me the right to play FT, then like it or not, im playing PMT, no...i said like it or not !
(Eg:My army uses OICWs, not M4s, or any of that.)
Oh....and for any invaders of our land, weve got a little suprise waiting for them.
(Clue to The Helghan Empire : (Scolar Visari's speech)"At first it weakened us, but in fact, we were growing stronger...")

I will say, first, that a statement like that will get you ignored by everyone involved, if not sic the mods on you, and second that claiming the right to do that simply gives everyone just cause to jump in and attack you with a completely number-wanked army just like you're doing. Who knows, for this conflict, I might join in as PMT, even though I only play MT otherwise, and simply pound the snot out of you through the use of a larger army and budget - not to mention the actual ability to write.

As I have said before, go wank numbers on your own time.

I agree on almost every point except....its vunerable to EMPs ?
Maybe the fire control computer, which isnt nessecary to use the OICW.
Why would you be using a EMP on the battlefield anyway ?

I agree on almost every point except....its vunerable to EMPs ?
Maybe the fire control computer, which isnt nessecary to use the OICW.
Why would you be using a EMP on the battlefield anyway ?

Hit tanks, enemy bases ect. Anything with electronics is fair game, and to effectivly render and enemy potentially blind with no communications and such can be deadly.

My ideas are theological,
Sir, are you suggesting I dont have enough money to operate AM systems ? Fuck off.

True.

My ideas are theological,
Sir, are you suggesting I dont have enough money to operate AM systems ? Fuck off.

I believe you have enough money (if you gouge your populace) to operate a nuclear AM system, which will create a EMP and destroy missiles en route. However that will cause severe fallout and the EMP. The fire control computers on your OICW will be knocked out. Good thing its detachable.

My ideas are theological,
Sir, are you suggesting I dont have enough money to operate AM systems ? Fuck off.

Beautiful, I'm not going to flamebait after this, and I honestly wasn't trying to before, but when you have 7,000,000 men and 8.6 billion USD to spend on them, you don't get a lot of 0MG U|33R K00L S7UFF, simply because you can't afford it. See my first post on this thread, I went over the whole thing.

Since you last looked, my military advanced a bit.
Also, The Rouge Nation Of Skincher sells items like OICWs and nuclear bombs at very low prices, so I can afford items like nuclear warheads.
And thank you Leafanistan ! Finally, someone who is not trying to pick holes in every statemnet I make !

Since you last looked, my military advanced a bit.
Also, The Rouge Nation Of Skincher sells items like OICWs and nuclear bombs at very low prices, so I can afford items like nuclear warheads.
And thank you Leafanistan ! Finally, someone who is not trying to pick holes in every statemnet I make !

I try. I can make your military realistic, but I can't help it that far. So far, I believe your military has basic BDUs, while the conscript army has the shirts on their backs. Along with minimal weapons training, they are somewhat effective. Though I think you should be using my Conscript Rifle that I sell in my storefront for them. They don't know how to operate the OICW to its full potential and there is no point in wasting them on them.

Im also going to make a last minute bulk order for body armour from Skincher.
Recent investigations (The OICW is a new weapon) have shown that my men have adapted quite well to The OICW.
Not to the point of 1 man can take on 50, but to the point of 1 man can take on 3-5 people (HE granades).

I try. I can make your military realistic, but I can't help it that far. So far, I believe your military has basic BDUs, while the conscript army has the shirts on their backs. Along with minimal weapons training, they are somewhat effective. Though I think you should be using my Conscript Rifle that I sell in my storefront for them. They don't know how to operate the OICW to its full potential and there is no point in wasting them on them.

See that's all I was trying to say - although I had to disagree with the whole one missile kills 400,000 part, as if that were possible, you would assume they would be spread over several hundred waves. You don't have the funding for everything you say you have - no offense there, its just a fact - or, if you claim to have all of that still, you can't possibly have the funding to maintain that equipment, stockpile ammunition for it, or train your men effectively to use it.

That's nothing to be ashamed of either - real nations suffer the same problems. Saudi Arabia troops involved in the Gulf War actually had a reported incidence in which the crew of one of their IFVs abandoned the vehicle because they wern't trained to replace a flat tire on the vehicle.

Oh, and I believe in the 100,000,000 million pop. rule for the most part - with exceptions being made for the sake of a story, a tech level, or because the person is a good RPer. As theis war was not (again, no offenes meant) well thought out, I don't think that this case fits into those prerequisites, so I would be inclined to ignore any claim to nuclear weapons made by OutpostCommand - at least until his population and budget grew signifigantly.

Good for you. We'll see you on the battlefield.

Im also going to make a last minute bulk order for body armour from Skincher.
Recent investigations (The OICW is a new weapon) have shown that my men have adapted quite well to The OICW.
Not to the point of 1 man can take on 50, but to the point of 1 man can take on 3-5 people (HE granades).


The OCIW is not nessicaraly(cant spell it) a new weapon, it has been under developement since the mid 80's, and was based on a late 70's design.

Yes, its been under development, but hasnt been mass produced yet.
Look, I know my nation is not old enough to make its own nuclear warheads, but I can buy them.
A tramp can buy a nuclear warhead if the seller is selling it for a really low price.
Same example with me and The Rouge Nation Of Skincher.
In not a tramp, but im not exactly a billion popluation nation either.
Skincher is offering cheap nuclear warheads- you dont have to be a big nation to buy them.Fact.

Yes, its been under development, but hasnt been mass produced yet.
Look, I know my nation is not old enough to make its own nuclear warheads. A tramp can buy a nuclear warhead if the seller is selling it for a really low price.
Same example with me and The Rouge Nation Of Skincher.
In not a tramp, but im not exactly a billion popluation nation either.
Skincher is offering cheap nuclear warheads- you dont have to be a big nation to buy them.Fact.

This is true, but generally the missles won't be the same quality as those of larger nations with weapons programs. So you'll have them, they will just have better ones.

Yes, its been under development, but hasnt been mass produced yet.


Thats because the US is lazy, take the F-22 into example: It was supposed to enter service in 2001, then that past, then it was to begin service in 2003, failed that deadline, now it is supposed to enter service this year, and i bet they are going to fail that deadline too.

True.
I have brought a 45 megaton nuclear warhead fom Skincher.
What do you expect The Borman Empire to be using ?

True.
I have brought a 45 megaton nuclear warhead fom Skincher.
What do you expect The Borman Empire to be using ?

Well my guess would be BIG since I don't know anything about their nations weapons ect.

Oh...and if anyone is about to suggest that The Bormans and his allies could just bombard me with nuclear warheads until I run out of AM missiles, then ive already got that situation covered.If such a incident takes place, I will immediatly ask Skincher for as many missiles as I need.
If he cannot bring them fast enough, then im sure The Helghan Empire will supply me with AM missiles.

Oh...and if anyone is about to suggest that The Bormans and his allies could just bombard me with nuclear warheads until I run out of AM missiles, then ive already got that situation covered.If such a incident takes place, I will immediatly ask Skincher for as many missiles as I need.
If he cannot bring them fast enough, then im sure The Helghan Empire will supply me with AM missiles.

Of course they could alway bomb the crap out of Skincher (if it's a nation) if they wanted to.

Oh...thatll leave them possibly the worst reputation possible.
The Rouge Nation Of Skincher supplies many nations, and if something should happen to the nation, then very many nations would suddenly turn anti-Borman.

Oh...thatll leave them possibly the worst reputation possible.
The Rouge Ntaion Of Skincher supplies many nations, and if something should happen to the nation, then very many nations would suddenly turn anti-Borman.

I think they could handle the rep, besides whats a tiny little nation who's supplying an enemy saftey compared to victory.

Hmmm ? I think you underestimate...
1.The Rouge Nation Of Skincher's reputation.
2.The size of nations that will strike back.
3.Skinchers forces.Hes a arms dealer.Ever heard of a arms dealer who isnt armed properly ? I havent.

Oh...thatll leave them possibly the worst reputation possible.
The Rouge Nation Of Skincher supplies many nations, and if something should happen to the nation, then very many nations would suddenly turn anti-Borman.

Skincher seems really new to NS. I don't think anyone would care if Borman blew him off the map.

Somehow...even though I dont have any proof...I doubt it...

I'm not a big part of this thread, but OutpostCommand, you need to know

A) Borman will kill you despite this arms dealer dude you've brought in.

B) He could also still blast the hell out of Skincher and nobody would make a big deal about it...there are plenty of arms dealers, and he is no doubt a drop in the ocean, while Borman is a powerful nation with a reputation for military potency. You're counting on Skincher's ties to be more powerful than you are, which is probably the case, but you're still screwed. Plus Borman can get so many more nukes than you its not funny.

C) You guys should get a move on.

The shit hits the fan tomorrow.

If Bormon decides to do a first stage Nuclear Strike on your country, you screwed, he can launch more missiles in one go than you got defence missiles. and they all are prolly MIRV too. and he prolly has satelite based weapons too. in short if you go to nuclear war, your not going to win, plus any nuclear attack will cause several other nations to use nukes on your arse with full nuclear retaliation enough to score your entire country off the map. and your arms dealer friend, he'll see which way the wind is blowing if it comes to nuclear war.

Skincher is a drop... I however, am a bucketful. I have weapons, tanks, artillary, sattalites, missiles, ships, mercenaries... ect. We can do genetic engineering on soldiers, and have a library of the most volitile of the entire universes virus.

We are members of The United Federal Shipbuilders, and supply ships to major nations the universe over. Skincher is insignificant.

heh, in an earlyer post someone said something about the OCIW, as far as i can tell it has been scrapt not sure if its true but i saw it on at least 2 web sites, but i guess they could be used in NS btw the weapons the OCIW had where turned into the XM8 and the XM25 Grenade launcher (based on the sites) but other sites say the XM8 is just a carbine for the OCIW. and if you Google the XM25 you will get mostly stuff on a Sniper rifle but the XM25 Grenade launcher can be forund...now im going to stop rambling

The shit hits the fan tomorrow.

http://img353.imageshack.us/my.php?image=toiletpapercopy19iq.jpg

There are children as young as 13 in my army.
Once a soldier is no longer strong, he goes to work in the economy.
If hes too old, the he obviously retires.

i don't know why i'm reading this stupid thread...i've never "role played" in my life and don't plan on starting now...

but look what's bring created. 15 year old kids that wish they lived in nazi germany.

Who says anything about Germany ?

Sir,
I did not get my ideas from Nazi Germany.
The Helghan Empire has always trained children military combat from a young age.
OutpostCommand intends to go down that route.

Ah, war starts today :)

Ah, war starts today :)
Where?

When borman makes the closed thread, he went camping over the weekend.

damn him. why does he always go camping when something important comes up?

damn him. why does he always go camping when something important comes up?

He is perfecting his Guerilla tactics.

I still want to see a list of outpostcommands allies

I still want to see a list of outpostcommands allies
Currently, I am the only nation on that list.

that's it what about all these huge allies he keeps bragging about
any way good luck with that

My current allies are...
1.The Helghan Empire.
2.Swilatia.
3.The entirety of Eagleville (10 nations).
4.The Dictatorship Of Atkinstav.
5.The United States Of Garlande.
6.The Confereracy Of War Coalition.
7.(Possibly)The United States Of Independant Hitmen.

Unfortunatly, I was not able to convince more powerful nations to fight for me, but im not complaining.

My current allies are...
1.The Helghan Empire.
2.Swilatia.
3.The entirety of Eagleville (10 nations).
4.The Dictatorship Of Atkinstav.
5.The United States Of Garlande.
6.The Confereracy Of War Coalition.
7.(Possibly)The United States Of Independant Hitmen.

Unfortunatly, I was not able to convince more powerful nations to fight for me, but im not complaining.

Still getting a 5 billion nation should help. This should be an intersting war, glad to be most likely observing it instead of in it. :p

Yes,
getting The United States Of Independent Hitmen on our side would be a terrific plus for our side.

damn him. why does he always go camping when something important comes up?

An online game is more important than RL?

o.O

I thought you couldn't use your puppets in a war.I think this is going to be a very bloody war but anyways best of wishes to the bormans

Your 'puppets' ?
What do you mean ?
My nation in no way is hanging on strings.

How about having 15 nations on each side, instead of just 8

An online game is more important than RL?

o.O
Remember that NS is more than just an online game ;)

How about having 15 nations on each side, instead of just 8
Hmm...well we could, but then each side would have too many nations, and itll just end up being (I quote from someone I dont remember) a massive dog pile.

Your 'puppets' ?
What do you mean ?
My nation in no way is hanging on strings.

lol I mean like you own helghan empire and outpostcommand

Hmm...well we could, but then each side would have too many nations, and itll just end up being (I quote from someone I dont remember) a massive dog pile.
Not saying we have to do it. Just asking.

Hmm...well we could, but then each side would have too many nations, and itll just end up being (I quote from someone I dont remember) a massive dog pile.

Not every nation needs to be taking part where the main fighting is going on. Certian nations could go after each other instead of it being one massive front on the Bormans ect.

lol I mean like you own helghan empire and outpostcommand
Hmmm...im confused...and thirsty...

Its a idea...but...well...its...ach...nevermind...

Hmmm...im confused...and thirsty...

A puppet nation is basically a nation that's controlled by another one. So say I created the nation of White it would be a puppet nation. Puppet wanking is when people take all their nations and use them, say me and my 3 other accounts are used to attack another nation, and it's I believe generally looked down on here.

Not every nation needs to be taking part where the main fighting is going on. Certian nations could go after each other instead of it being one massive front on the Bormans ect.


That would be better, like hellfire.

Yay, i have reached over 1,000 posts !, and i had 120 something posts yesterday.

Oh.
But you lot dont seriously belive The Helghan Empire and OutpostCommand are the same people, do you ?
Oh, and all those other nations are not me either.

That would be better, like hellfire.

Well it would a) prevent a lot of dogpiling (try and at least match up certian nations) b) make it easier for players instead of dealing with things happening too fast to effectively role play, and c) allows for seperate threads for this.

Im twice the size of The Helgan Empire.

Hmmm ? Well its a half decent idea...ive got some 15 nations at as my allies already.

Im twice the size of The Helgan Empire.
And The United States Of Independent Hitmen Is larger than The Borman Empire and Jipenanistan(Sorry if I spelt that wrong) combined.

All right....I'm sorry I'm here so late, but I didn't notice this thread. I think it might've been my mind's n00b filter. Anyhoo, Does anyone mind if I join in too? This is just too good to miss, heh, heh.

Of course, I'll be on Borman's side, just cause I want to run over a small nation. Not cause I'M afraid of getting creamed. No, of COURSE not, not me...

On a much lighter note,
follow the link, turn volume up, and once finished click 'Again' and he will say something else !
http://www.weebls-stuff.com/games/Obey+the+Crab/

And The United States Of Independent Hitmen Is larger than The Borman Empire and Jipenanistan(Sorry if I spelt that wrong) combined.

Yea, but numbers aren't always everything. Quality can beat quantity if superior tactics, and firepower are brought into the equation. Take my nation for example I've got a larger nation then say Willink, but not that great of an economy, so facing me might be like facing a bit better prepared Saudia Arabia or such. Decent tanks, aks, decent fighters, and since I'm an island a nice navy. Numbers aren't everything.

All right....I'm sorry I'm here so late, but I didn't notice this thread. I think it might've been my mind's n00b filter. Anyhoo, Does anyone mind if I join in too? This is just too good to miss, heh, heh.

Of course, I'll be on Borman's side, just cause I want to run over a small nation. Not cause I'M afraid of getting creamed. No, of COURSE not, not me...
'Scuse me, but who the **** are you ? A ally of The Borman Empire ?

Put it this way, they United States Of Independent Hitmen has a 49 trillion defence budget. If thats not quality, I dont know what is.

'Scuse me, but who the **** are you ? A ally of The Borman Empire ?

I'm the cop, the lawyer, the judge, the jury, AND the executioner.

No, I'm allied with no one, I just can't find any new wars starting so that I can join. Soooooo....this one looks good, in that easy, butt whooping way.

Technically if the bormans wanted too they could call on their alliance, not sure if it's been done in the thread, but here's a link to who might be participating

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=439801

If you want a war with someone Psycho, then go piss off a nation with a population of 5 million, but you can just walk in here and...well...do that !

Possibly...but I should doubt all of the UNA will be involved.

If you want a war with someone Psycho, then go piss off a nation woth a population of 5 million, but you can just walk in here and...well...do that !

What's wrong, can't stand when people play your game? Only thing is, you did it the opposite way, pissing off a nation of over two billion, and then godmodding. At least I haven't godmodded, I'm just wanting to join.

Then again, I'm sure your reaction would've been quite different had I joined on your side, am I not right?

We might all get involved.

You couldnt be more correct (On your last paragraph).

You couldnt be more correct (On your last paragraph).

I know. But, just saying with the first paragraph, don't deal out what you can't take.

I shouldnt be so convinced that were going to lose if I were you.
Anyway, we shall see when The Borman Empire creates the new thread.

I shouldnt be so convinced that were going to lose if I were you.
Anyway, we shall see when The Borman Empire creates the new thread.

If you RP properly, as do your allies, I wouldn't be so confident if I were you.

Hold it right there 'buster' (The only word I could think of).
That was my first ever turn at RPing, I didnt even know that the NSEconomy
site existed then.
Ive improved a bit since then.

26 pages of this.....rubbish
At least my first RP had some depth to it, even if were had million man armies.
Would someone kill this thread?

I'M BACK! And sick, I can't RP. Joking.

Alright, you sure as hell filled the thread with a bunch of crap. I'm gonna make the first post and post the thread, then post the link here.

I saw a lot of stuff, if you want me to reply to any of it, just quote it and tell me so.

All right....I'm sorry I'm here so late, but I didn't notice this thread. I think it might've been my mind's n00b filter. Anyhoo, Does anyone mind if I join in too? This is just too good to miss, heh, heh.

Of course, I'll be on Borman's side, just cause I want to run over a small nation. Not cause I'M afraid of getting creamed. No, of COURSE not, not me...

I knda wanted to participate, Borman. Is there anyway you can fit me on the bill on your side?

I knda wanted to participate, Borman. Is there anyway you can fit me on the bill on your side?

I'd like to, but Helghan Empire is doing some weird I have to say their names a while ago no more than 7 allied thing. And even if not, there are already like 5 nations on list before you. If Helghan decides to open it up a bit, then you can.

And the thread is here:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9591135#post9591135

OOC thread is enclosed. If you think I forgot somethign in first post in IC thread put it there or here.

I'd like to, but Helghan Empire is doing some weird I have to say their names a while ago no more than 7 allied thing. And even if not, there are already like 5 nations on list before you. If Helghan decides to open it up a bit, then you can.

And the thread is here:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9591135#post9591135

OOC thread is enclosed. If you think I forgot somethign in first post in IC thread put it there or here.

Well, then is it minded if I fight on the oppossing side. No hard feelings really, I just haven't RPed in a little while. Don't want to get rusty.

Borman, how was camping ?

Well, then is it minded if I fight on the oppossing side. No hard feelings really, I just haven't RPed in a little while. Don't want to get rusty.

If Helghan will allow you too then you can, I just cant promise that you wont get completely eaten alive.

And willink, the camping part was ok. But we went to Six Flags and the beach too, and there were so many hot chicks, I started wishing I was single.

and there were so many hot chicks, I started wishing I was single.


LoL


" Uh-oh
Nation Not Found: "Independent Hitmen "
If possible, use your browser's BACK button to return and fix this. "

Borman should have come up with a more sensible title for the new thread.

LoL


" Uh-oh
Nation Not Found: "Independent Hitmen "
If possible, use your browser's BACK button to return and fix this. "

No, its a real nation. I've seen him RP and stuff before; I think we might actually be allied.

And Swilatia, I think it's a very fitting name. Your soldiers are esentially marching to death, knowing it. And so it's like suicide. And on our counter invasion, if you are as powerful as you claim, we'll lose many men and it will be like a march to suicide. It's a two way street.

No, its a real nation. I've seen him RP and stuff before; I think we might actually be allied.

And Swilatia, I think it's a very fitting name. Your soldiers are esentially marching to death, knowing it. And so it's like suicide. And on our counter invasion, if you are as powerful as you claim, we'll lose many men and it will be like a march to suicide. It's a two way street.
No, Borman, thats what you think. Swilatia has a strong, well-funded millitary. The title makes you look like some kind of uber-lord, which you are not, so I request you get it changed.
Also, Independent Hitmen is probably on my sid, not yours.

Independent Hitmen is a real nation.


The United States of Independent Hitmen (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=display_nation/nation=Independent%20Hitmen)

No, Borman, thats what you think.

I don't know if you know this, but when I say "I think it's a very fitting name" it's my opinion. "What I think" and "My opinion" are actually the same thing.

Swilatia has a strong, well-funded millitary.

I never said you didn't, I said pretty much the opposite.

And also, no matter how strong or well funded yours is, mine is stronger and better funded.

The title makes you look like some kind of uber-lord, which you are not, so I request you get it changed.

I'm not an uber-lord!? Oh my god, I've been living my life entirely wrong.

J/k, I know. There is no uber-lord. But ask, it's a fitting title.

I can not and will not.

Also, Independent Hitmen is probably on my sid, not yours.

Yes, I know he is on your side. I never said he was on mine.

For the love of God, dont make me have to re-post those numbers AGAIN

Swilatia, Borman STARTED stronger than you, he IS stronger than you, and he will ALWAYS be stronger than you.

sheesh...

Bump

Official Statement from President James Anderson of the United States of Independent Hitmen


The United States of Independent Hitmen has never expressed an interest in getting involved in this conflict which quite frankly has nothing to do with it, or its interests. We also find that our immediate allys interests are not also at stake, and therefore it has been deemed by a unanimous vote of the Security Council and the Cabinet that no USIH forces will be deployed to the region at all at the current time nor will they be done so in the near future unless the situation dramatically changes.

The United States has had friendly relations with several nations involved in this disagreement and wishes to continue these in the future. We do however wish for it to be known that our relationship with certain, as yet undisclosed, nations is under review by the Secretary of State with a mandate to recommend continuation, or a cutting of, diplomatic ties with said nation(s). This is due to said nations actions during this crisis that has been monitored closely by the President and senior administration and military aides.

At the current time it has been deemed that USIH troops would be put at unacceptable levels of danger should they be deployed as peacekeepers between the two sides, and therefore the decision has been made that no such action shall be taken with the current political climate between the two sides.

As usual the United States of Independent Hitmen will welcome talks between the sides with the aim of averting conflict, and we would be willing to host the talks to provide a neutral environment for diplomacy to flourish. We do not however stand with the opinion that the current sides will take up on our offer, although we do wish to be pleasently surprised.

We also wish for it to be known that the United States has always taken a dim view of smaller nations being bullied by those larger and seemingly more powerful nations that exist in the world. Whilst each case is different the United States does not look favourably upon such an action in any circumstance unless complete justification has been achieved and the United States feels that the response is measured and accurate to the threat posed.


OOC EDIT: Yes I am a real nation. Yes my military could probably kick everybody in this thread combined. :D However the RP here is not up to the usual quality that I consider entering into. Good day.

We also wish for it to be known that the United States has always taken a dim view of smaller nations being bullied by those larger and seemingly more powerful nations that exist in the world. Whilst each case is different the United States does not look favourably upon such an action in any circumstance unless complete justification has been achieved and the United States feels that the response is measured and accurate to the threat posed.




Outpost Command declared war on Borman empire for no reason whatsoever.

Zelda asks why must there be war if innocents are hurt she shall send Link to save them so bewarned.

OOC Reference for war thread:
Shazbotdom Main Task Force (Expandable if needed)
1st Company
Troops with XR-01 and XR-03 weapons have XR-02 Handguns. Troops with the XR-05 weapon have the XR-06 Shotgun
1st Division
XR-01 -- 15,000
XR-03 -- 7,500
XR-04 -- 7,500
XR-05 -- 7,500

2nd Division
XR-01 -- 15,000
XR-03 -- 7,500
XR-04 -- 7,500
XR-05 -- 7,500

3rd Division
XR-01 -- 15,000
XR-03 -- 7,500
XR-04 -- 7,500
XR-05 -- 7,500

4th Division
XR-01 -- 15,000
XR-03 -- 7,500
XR-04 -- 7,500
XR-05 -- 7,500

5th Division
XR-01 -- 15,000
XR-03 -- 7,500
XR-04 -- 7,500
XR-05 -- 7,500

6th Division
XR-01 -- 15,000
XR-03 -- 7,500
XR-04 -- 7,500
XR-05 -- 7,500

7th Division
XR-01 -- 15,000
XR-03 -- 7,500
XR-04 -- 7,500
XR-05 -- 7,500

8th Division
XR-01 -- 15,000
XR-03 -- 7,500
XR-04 -- 7,500
XR-05 -- 7,500

9th Division
XR-01 -- 15,000
XR-03 -- 7,500
XR-04 -- 7,500
XR-05 -- 7,500

10th Division
XR-01 -- 15,000
XR-03 -- 7,500
XR-04 -- 7,500
XR-05 -- 7,500

11th Division
XR-01 -- 15,000
XR-03 -- 7,500
XR-04 -- 7,500
XR-05 -- 7,500

12th Division
XR-01 -- 15,000
XR-03 -- 7,500
XR-04 -- 7,500
XR-05 -- 7,500

13th Division
XR-01 -- 15,000
XR-03 -- 7,500
XR-04 -- 7,500
XR-05 -- 7,500

14th Division
XR-01 -- 15,000
XR-03 -- 7,500
XR-04 -- 7,500
XR-05 -- 7,500

15th Division
XR-01 -- 15,000
XR-03 -- 7,500
XR-04 -- 7,500
XR-05 -- 7,500

16th Division
XR-01 -- 15,000
XR-03 -- 7,500
XR-04 -- 7,500
XR-05 -- 7,500

17th Division
XR-01 -- 15,000
XR-03 -- 7,500
XR-04 -- 7,500
XR-05 -- 7,500

18th Division
XR-01 -- 15,000
XR-03 -- 7,500
XR-04 -- 7,500
XR-05 -- 7,500

19th Division
XR-01 -- 15,000
XR-03 -- 7,500
XR-04 -- 7,500
XR-05 -- 7,500

20th Division
XR-01 -- 15,000
XR-03 -- 7,500
XR-04 -- 7,500
XR-05 -- 7,500

21st Through 100th Divisions on Standby
Companies 2, 3, and 4 on Standby


Marine Corps Land Vehicles
T-500 -- 20
WH-01 -- 20
WH-02 -- 00 (Not being dispatched)
WH-03 -- 20
WH-04 -- 20
AT-01 -- 10


Marine Air Corps
AC-01 -- 80
AC-02 -- 50
Boeing 777 (rebuilt) -- 200

Zelda asks why must there be war if innocents are hurt she shall send Link to save them so bewarned.


We shall carpet bomb link, and run over hyrule with tanks ;)

OOC: Independant Hitmen:

I doubt you could beat the military's of all nations in this thread combined, I would agree with any one nations. But I and my allies are larger than you, and all told our army would probably be larger, better trained, and using more expensive...er...extensive equipment. :p

Plus uh...Like Swilatia said, I'm an uber lord.

Edit: Like Willink said, Outpost Command and The Helghan Empire ('THE') attacked me for no reason. Like literally no reason, I had no interaction with either of them IC or OOC before. Then 'THE' TGed me asking me about factbooks and military bases and started attacking me, and here we are now.

So it's more like little nations attempting to bully larger ones.

Im lookin' at a dead man...
oh...erm, I cant go to the RP thread, and I cant access my profile.
I will start start Rping on wednesday/thursday, I cant do so earlier (Classified reason).

OOC: That may be true. My military is well equipped as a modern force (RL tech) but none of this FT crap.

I know that THE and OC started this, and thats why im not getting involved and they are the nations whose stance towards we are considering changing.

OOC: That may be true. My military is well equipped as a modern force (RL tech) but none of this FT crap.

I know that THE and OC started this, and thats why im not getting involved and they are the nations whose stance towards we are considering changing.

OOC: Good cause I was about to nuke you...r...enemies? Yeah, your enemies.

Im lookin' at a dead man...
oh...erm, I cant go to the RP thread, and I cant access my profile.
I will start start Rping on wednesday/thursday, I cant do so earlier (Classified reason).

Ok, but that still dosn't answer why "THE" Helghan Empire is not posting... Unless you are him....

MEGA PATRIOTIC BUMP!!!!

(psss, this thread is dead)

It's not dead!!!! this is the bloody OOC thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

No. There is a link to the real OOC thread in the first post. Its titled "A suicide march (OOC)"

Im bored, lets start the actual fighting already.

Im bored, lets start the actual fighting already.

Outpost said he couldn't start till like Wend.

-FROM THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT OF ASGARNIEU-

TO: Borman Empire
FROM: President of The Holy Empire of Asgarnieu
SUBJECT: War Against Borman Empire


Dear Borman Empire,

As The Holy Empire of Asgarnieu is in the U.N.A, we pledge our full support to you. We DO NOT wish to send soliders over to the fighting zone, but we do wish to send any and all nessicary supplies, vehicles, weapons (through Military Armament Company), and equipment you may need to fight this war. Please TG me with any requests, and they WILL BE MET. Thank You. Good Luck in this war.


Respectfully,

President Justin A. Herbert
Holy Empire of Asgarnieu
1217 Government Way
Balkan City, Druid Province, 85546

-FROM THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT OF ASGARNIEU-

TO: Borman Empire
FROM: President of The Holy Empire of Asgarnieu
SUBJECT: War Against Borman Empire


Dear Borman Empire,

As The Holy Empire of Asgarnieu is in the U.N.A, we pledge our full support to you. We DO NOT wish to send soliders over to the fighting zone, but we do wish to send any and all nessicary supplies, vehicles, weapons (through Military Armament Company), and equipment you may need to fight this war. Please TG me with any requests, and they WILL BE MET. Thank You. Good Luck in this war.


Respectfully,

President Justin A. Herbert
Holy Empire of Asgarnieu
1217 Government Way
Balkan City, Druid Province, 85546

Official Imperial Communique:

To: President Justin A. Herbert
From: Chancellor Licinius

Thank you very much. I doubt we could hanlde any more soldiers ((OOC: We're already at military ally limit for my side)) but equipment you can never have enough of. If we require anything we will ask you, again, thank you.

End Transmission