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Bunker , Unknown Location
Welcome to the meeting.

Tomoro in operation freedom we shall start to attack the navy vessels, hopefuly with assitance from the allied nations.

Thats all for now

Secert To Allied Nations
We need to destroy the ships

Yea that reminds me i forgot to list em , i listed em in the other therad

2 Torpedo Subs one empty
2 Carriers
2 Battle ships one out of service
2 Transport ship with my 1500 marines on

I have
5 Bombers
5 Protectors (Fighters)
and thats about itHmmmm.

Off Algeristan

Four SSN's - Lotus, Teardrop, Crystal, and Harmony - slid quietly through the water at less than 5 knots, listening for activity. Behind them, the CGN Destiny, DDG Karma, FFG's Prism, Rainbow, and Chakra - protected by the Aegis DD Aura - all cruised into the battle zone. Their ASW helicopters - 16 in all - were arrayed in a 270º arc around the fleet.

And, coming up from 200km behind, 8 B-1B's - still not yet in supersonic dash mode, but having just refueled in air - were about to make their entrance.

OOC: Death to godmodders!

OOC: Can another SWC person, or even Algeristan, pick up and RP Leafanistans fleet? I don't feel right doing it.

Algeristan']To: Letokia

Your citizens are now being sent with the others to their deaths.



If you send our civilians back unharmed, we and our allies, the nations of Samarika, Centrebania, and Fliedlice, will not attack you...Please reconsider.


--The President

International News Chanel

* *Breaking news * *
Algistian has just sentanced the 12,000 so called "Criminals" to death, operation freedom is planning to stop these terrible actions

"Analysis of radar signatures," said the XO. "I want to know where the FishCaks vessels are."

"Just the FishCaks, nobody else..."

Day 2

Allied Nations , today is the day we start the main part of Operation Freedom
let them blow up!

Algeristan

The executions are now underway.

1270 executed so far.

5 of them were te captive citizens of Letokia.

Fishy needs to score my last missile attack on his battleships.

Starenellian reinforcements ETA: 1 day.

Algeristan']From: The Holy Republic of Algeristan

To: Halberdgardia

Algeristan is now developing close relations with both McKagan and Lefanistan. Despite our different political systems, I, as President, will do my best to see that our three nations only get closer and build a union of solidarity.

As you are a nation allied to the two said nations, I extend the hand of friendship, along with all the security and wealth that comes with that, to Halberdgardia.

Our political differences must not blind us on that point. Ill respect your constitution of a secular system, if you respect my Islamic system.

I have been told that President Kir Kanos is not as ideologically dogmatic as he makes himself out to be. I always admire the pragmatist. Prehaps H.E. Mr. Kanos should respond to me in person, as I can offer certain gifts and treats if he needs help in seeing our point of view.

As for your three proposittions, we have this to say:

Algeristan REJECTS points 1 and 3. We will not, now war has broken out, give up these criminals and Algeristan will keep the political system we have in place, for we live under Gods grace and that in itself is a true blessing.

Point 2 is nothing but common sense!

Algeristan does support Global Jihad, but they are now under STRICT orders to cease ANY operations against ANY SWC member nation and any allied nations of said nations.

Global Jihad sees many other struggles that need our support and that will not interfere in your well being.

Add to this, Algeristan will now ACT AGAINST any terrorist group that is in conflict with SWC member nations.

We have already blacklisted the Leafanistani group, the Red Brigade.

If you have any information on domestic terrorist groups in your nation, please do not hesitate to contact me and Ill add them to the watch list!

I hope that we can build up relations and that our nations may propser.

To: President Hassan Tarbani, the Holy Empire of Algeristan
From: President Kir Kanos, the Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia
Re: Assistance

It is only grudgingly that we will assist you against invasion, due to your rejection of point 1. We had hoped that you would give these people a chance at life, but perhaps sometime in the future we can work on this issue.

Unfortunately, seeing as the coasts of your nation have become a warzone, I must decline your offer for a face-to-face meeting, though perhaps I will consider such a meeting in the future.

As for point 2, we ask that you keep close tabs on Global Jihad and forward information on their activities to us. We will inform you if we feel that any of their actions are a conflict of interest, but will otherwise not move to oppose them, so long as they stay out of Halberdgardia. The terms of the treaty we suggested are as follows:

[Treaty of Algeristan]
Pact between Halberdgardia and Algeristan

[Article I:]
Both parties agree to host dual embassies in each other's countries, in order to facilitate better relations between them. Both embassies are to follow the diplomatic laws encoded by this treaty, as outlined in Article II. These embassies are to be considered national territory of the owner of the embassy, and any attack on said embassy will be considered an act of war.

[Article II:]
The laws on embassies encoded by this treaty are as follows:

The amount of armed guards, including professional soldiers, are to be from zero to fifteen men, with whatever arms thought necessary by the client nation, excluding, but not limited to, high-explosives and high-explosive devices such as rocket-propelled grenades and rocket launchers.
Five soft-skinned combat vehicles are allowed, including armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles. The client nation may have as many unarmed civilian vehicles and unarmed helicopters for transport as desired.
The flag of the client nation is to fly no matter what reason, including policy towards certain political groups inside the host nation. It is national territory of the client nation, and thus they have the right to any flag.


[Article III:]
Both nations are to be aligned through a treaty of non-aggression; if either party is to undertake any hostile action against the other, this treaty and all its terms are to be considered null and void. Moreover, should a third party threaten either nation, the other nation not affected by the third nation should not align itself with the third nation, even if an alliance exists between the two parties. Instead, it should be aligned with the ally specified by this treaty, or remain neutral in any conflict which may arise.

[Article IV:]
Neither of the parties of this treaty are to engage in, support, or in any way link themselves to terrorist activities against the other. Both parties agree to keep tabs on all terrorist groups known to both, and to regularly share accurate intelligence regarding the groups with each other. If either party engages in, supports, or in any way links themselves to terrorist activities against the other, this treaty and all its terms are to be considered null and void.

[Conclusions:]
This treaty shall be immediately put into effect upon the confirmation of Algeristan.

We have deployed a naval expeditionary force to the region to assist in the defense of the McKagan and Leafanistani fleets, so please do not fire on those vessels. IFF codes are being broadcast to your air and naval forces as we speak.

Kir Kanos
President
The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia

Sorry must have missed it i will do now

Commander we are hit!!

Not again, what this time DAMAGE REPORT

Missile hit deck

Get some one to repair

The SSN's split into two attacking pairs, each coming in from the flank of the FishCaks squadron. As they neared the perimeter of FishCaks air defense coverage, the helicopters dropped sonobuoys, "illuminating" the waters underneath the FishCaks fleet. Against this wave of sound, the oncoming attack subs were invisible - and those from FishCaks were clearly displayed.

0700, McKagan 442, Outside Algeristani Waters

"Take us up to their beaches." Captain Miller said while turning away from the damage repair crews.

Not only was the damage being repaired, but the entier superstructure was being uparmored.

The blast shutters were brought down and then another layer put over them.

Sorry must have missed it i will do now

Commander we are hit!!

Not again, what this time DAMAGE REPORT

Missile hit deck

Get some one to repair

Please take the time to actually RP.

I fired 20 missiles at each of your battleships.

I'm ignoring you FULLY until you even START to RP.

FishCaks' submarines now faced a choice: they could either fall back behind the protective screen of the SAM's aboard their other warships - and permit the oncoming bogeys to close to within torpedo range of these same assets - or they could come out and "play". If they did the latter, each would be going head-to-head with a pair of attack submarines backed by two or even three helicopters.

Which would be suicide.

Of course, FishCaks' fighters could attempt to sweep the helicopter screen away - but that would require coming within the range of the Aegis DD, whose SAM fire would be ferocious. And - little known to FishCaks - it would leave the skies free for those 8 oncoming supersonic dash bombers...

OOC:

I am hereby placing FishCaks on ignore from this RP all together.

He has had 3 chances. So far he has yet to RP any, instead he reponds to a well written RP with a one liner and the same damage every time.

If someone else wants to invade Algeristan let them. But not Fishy.

OOC:

I am hereby placing FishCaks on ignore from this RP all together.

He has had 3 chances. So far he has yet to RP any, instead he reponds to a well written RP with a one liner and the same damage every time.

If someone else wants to invade Algeristan let them. But not Fishy.

OOC:

I am hereby placing FishCaks on ignore from this RP all together.

He has had 3 chances. So far he has yet to RP any, instead he reponds to a well written RP with a one liner and the same damage every time.

If someone else wants to invade Algeristan let them. But not Fishy.

Please take the time to actually RP.

I fired 20 missiles at each of your battleships.

I'm ignoring you FULLY until you even START to RP.

That is god moding ! but i will take damage

We have lost one barage gun on each ship commander

what else ?

The deck on each one and, the bridg on the FC Fuller

Dispatch people to reapir them asap




Message to allied commanders

We need to blow this ships


OOC: Damage reports for the 4 torpedos i fired at leafstani's ship pls

From: The Holy Republic of Algeristan

To: Halberdgardia

The Holy Republic of Algeristan accepts this Treaty.

I propose the new alliance be known at the Pact of Steel.

I will send a diplomat over as soon a you wish for the Treaty to be signed on our side.

All apsects of the Treaty are to be meet on our side.

As Global Jihad was always a terrorist arm of state policy, you only need to tell us who you want attacked and Global Jihad will do it.

Does Halberdgardia sponser any rebel/terrorist groups?

I think we need to help our ally Leafanistan, to wipe out the Red Brigade.

Global Jihad could do this, given their very strong anti-communist ideology.

May Allah bless you, Mr. President and may He bless your great and united nation.

President Hassan Tarbani

FishCaks, are you going to respond to the fact that I'm tracking your fleet down, or not?

If you don't, then in my next post I will be within torpedo range of your surface assets.

That is god moding ! but i will take damage

We have lost one barage gun on each ship commander

what else ?

The deck on each one and, the bridg on the FC Fuller

Dispatch people to reapir them asap




Message to allied commanders

We need to blow this ships


OOC: Damage reports for the 4 torpedos i fired at leafstani's ship pls

You've still been ignored.

It's not fair that I write a full RP with several paragraphs to meet nothing but a 1 liner.

Algeristan']From: The Holy Republic of Algeristan

To: Halberdgardia

The Holy Republic of Algeristan accepts this Treaty.

I propose the new alliance be known at the Pact of Steel.

I will send a diplomat over as soon a you wish for the Treaty to be signed on our side.

All apsects of the Treaty are to be meet on our side.

As Global Jihad was always a terrorist arm of state policy, you only need to tell us who you want attacked and Global Jihad will do it.

Does Halberdgardia sponser any rebel/terrorist groups?

I think we need to help our ally Leafanistan, to wipe out the Red Brigade.

Global Jihad could do this, given their very strong anti-communist ideology.

May Allah bless you, Mr. President and may He bless your great and united nation.

President Hassan Tarbani

Could the McKagan Republic be let in on this treaty under the same terms?

We're already allies, but we feel the need to have more in writing.

The enitre FishCaks naval is currently on full alert after all these atacks. And are not attacking untill they are sure that it is safe.


OOC: My pc locked up and wouldnt post so i lost a big rp post wich im not typing out again thats why i started doing quick rp and also do u have something against me cuz i have done nothing to u!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(OOC)

McKagan, you have my backing, FishCaks has not RP well at all and his death tolls after huge attacks are so not real.

IGNORE HIM.

every other nation however has RP ok so there in.

The HFNEF had finally reached the McKagan and Leafanistani positions, and was about to enter the show with a bang.

Fleet Admiral Jack Forrester stood on the bridge of the Freedom-class superdreadnaught D.R.H. Vengeance, the master of all he surveyed.

So, he thought, the puny bugs from FishCaks want to play with the big boys, eh? We'll give 'em a show, all right...

"Weapons!"

"Yes, sir, Admiral?"

"Get me firing solutions for the FishCaks fleet. I want a calculated salvo, and I want their fleet to bleed after it hits. Assign Vengeance and three of the Omegas to their two carriers, two of our per carrier, put twoOmegas on the remaining battleship, and put an Omega on each of their transports. Get to our carriers, and have them scramble air support. Put the ASW frigates and Seahawks on alert."

"Aye aye, sir!"

Just a few minutes later, the deafening noise of some of the most massive and heavily armed vessels of the HFNEF split the air. The Vengeance's nine 30-inch ETC cannons vomited huge gouts of flame as it hurled its massive shells at one of the FishCaks carriers, joined by one of the Omega-class heavy battleships, with its twelve 20-inch ETC cannons, making a total of 21 massive shells headed at that one carrier alone. The other FishCaks carrier had 24 20-inchers, originating from two other Omegas, screaming at it. Another 24 20-inchers was launched by another two Omegas at the remaining FishCaks battleship. Twelve 20-inchers were also bearing down on both FishCaks tranports as well. With one salvo, the HFNEF was poised to punch a gaping hole in the invaders' fleet.

OOC: If FishCaks takes proper casualties from this attack, it should pretty much wipe out his fleet, which will give him an IC reason for pulling out of the RP.

McKagan, you could sign the treaty as a third paty nation.

The Treaty was never specific about only having two members to it's Treaty.

OOC: My pc locked up and wouldnt post so i lost a big rp post wich im not typing out again thats why i started doing quick rp and also do u have something against me cuz i have done nothing to u!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Death to godmodders!

Are your subs coming out or hanging back?

Algeristan'](OOC)

McKagan, you have my backing, FishCaks has not RP well at all and his death tolls after huge attacks are so not real.

IGNORE HIM.

every other nation however has RP ok so there in.
Like i just said iv lost all my big posts so iv been posting random numbers

And so far from the missiles iv just had lauched at me (The 20 at each ship)
Total Death: 500 sailers and marines and it has also taken out my SAM's on the FC Nova MK2

The F.L.S.S. Valiant and F.L.S.S. Courage move towards the McKagan flagship, they fire 20 missles each at it. The F.L.S.S. Avalon moves forward, marines are on deck firing. They prepare to board the flagship.

OOC: Great I am alone against three viable forces.

Death to godmodders!

Are your subs coming out or hanging back?

Erm i dunno im ignoreing you and leaving this game beause of idoits! All im trying to do is have some fun in this game and your just runing it for me!

OOC: C'mon, Fishy, these are Exocet missiles coming at you. These things will do heavy heavy damage when they hit. Warships have been sunk by a single Exocet missile.

Lemme give you an example. During the Bolkian war, 2 large, modern Aysheaian destroyers were each hit by a single Exocet missile. One destroyer was heavily damaged and will need to spend NS months in a drydock before being battleworthy again. The other destroyer was struck by a missile that didn’t explode (fairly common for Exocets). All the unburnt fuel in the missile ignited a fire that still did moderate damage to the thing – and that happened even after the missile had exhausted most of its fuel! Casualties from the pair of missile strikes (considering each destroyer has a crew of 280 or so) were something like 40 dead and 90 wounded.

And keep in mind that each of these destroyers was struck with a single Exocet missile.

OOC: C'mon, Fishy, these are Exocet missiles coming at you. These things will do heavy heavy damage when they hit. Warships have been sunk by a single Exocet missile.

Lemme give you an example. During the Bolkian war, 2 large, modern Aysheaian destroyers were each hit by a single Exocet missile. One destroyer was heavily damaged and will need to spend NS months in a drydock before being battleworthy again. The other destroyer was struck by a missile that didn’t explode (fairly common for Exocets). All the unburnt fuel in the missile ignited a fire that still did moderate damage to the thing – and that happened even after the missile had exhausted most of its fuel! Casualties from the pair of missile strikes (considering each destroyer has a crew of 280 or so) were something like 40 dead and 90 wounded.

And keep in mind that each of these destroyers was struck with a single Exocet missile.

I dont realy care! Im leaving this game , all iv had since i started is McKagen or wat ever the stupid name is having ago at me and being nasty and being out of order

...and it has also taken out my SAM's on the FC Nova MK2No SAM's? Oh, my.

The helicopter screen began to close on the FishCaks fleet, first tentatively, and then with more boldness as the lack of SAM fire made FishCaks' exposed position obvious. All the while, the helicopters were dropping sonobuoys, pounding the waters undernearth FishCaks' fleet with sonar emanations - illuminating his two submarines so that they would have no place to hide from their attackers.

No SAM's? Oh, my.

The helicopter screen began to close on the FishCaks fleet, first tentatively, and then with more boldness as the lack of SAM fire made FishCaks' exposed position obvious. All the while, the helicopters were dropping sonobuoys, pounding the waters undernearth FishCaks' fleet with sonar emanations - illuminating his two submarines so that they would have no place to hide from their attackers.

lol that looks differnt to when i read it

OOC:
Damn Id love to get in this when the enemy land (if they do), although I cant stomach naval battles.
Neither can i stomach Fishies typing/God modding. Me and McKagan did warn you not to let him in.
Well have fun. Maybe Ill enter when a force lands in Algeristan.

Erm i dunno im ignoreing you and leaving this game beause of idoits! All im trying to do is have some fun in this game and your just runing it for me!You mean because you might actually end up losing a ship?

God forbid.

In the Aircraft Carrier Nexus

"The Algeristan war has already begun and how communcations are flying around like light?" Said the commander David Ackbar. He decided that he will cause some havoc amongst the Fiskcaks who he consider are intelligentallly inferior even to shoobans and Sephirothians. Immediately he dispatched 5 squadrons of F-22 Raptors to attack the fleet of Fishcaks. It is also a good time to begin a field test of the laser the US is developing. They will begin opening fire as soon they are in range.

Now

On board the ship's the staff where getting very worried. They can see air craft comming towards the ship so the guns where manned and they started shoting

You mean because you might actually end up losing a ship?

God forbid.

No iv already lost a ship

Erm not being funny but saying some one elses loss's is GOD MODING!!!!!!!!You were the one who said that you were out of SAM's. I haven't fired a shot.

If you withdraw right now, you can live.

On board the ship's the staff where getting very worried. They can see air craft comming towards the ship so the guns where manned and they started shotingThe helicopters had not yet closed to effective range, so the gunfire was ineffectual. It did, however, force the helos to remain at a distance.

But, underneath the waves, the four SSN's, two on either flank, moved in to attack.

OOC: Since your subs didn't come out from under your fleet, you've allowed mine into torpedo range.

You were the one who said that you were out of SAM's. I haven't fired a shot.

If you withdraw right now, you can live.

my bad i read it wrong

Almost simultaneously, the four attack subs flooded their torpedo tubes...

and i am ignoreing every1
so u just wasted them

now if i was to stop being ignored i will accept damages ow where was i

ahh yea i was going to leave this game cuz of the idoits who seem to hate me !!!!!!!!!!

OOC: Hal, I feel sorry for you. You just RP'd against someone we decided to ignore. :p

IC:

The McKagan Vessel can parralel to the beaches in Algeristan. The Captain was now sitting down in the command bunker-like CIC that was behind the heavily armored bridge.

"Ask the Algeristani's if we can come into one of their harbors so we can dock, reload weapons, and discuss the future of this island."

"Message sent sir." The young and semi-fresh faced woman at the communications station reported.

"Yeah, and get me a Seahawk out there to patrol too."

Within 30 minutes a Seahawk Helicopter was in the air.

The subs were in pairs, about 90º apart from FishCaks' perspective. As the 16 torpedoes - 8 on each side - hit the water, the danger to FishCaks' fleet was immediately obvious. This was a wolfpack attack, and the spacing of the torpedoes was such that FishCaks' could only turn bow or stern to face one attack by exposing its broadside to the other - the classic WWII Japanese "anvil" tactic.

But no sooner did FishCaks' vessels began to take evasive action (OOC: whatever you choose - it doesn't matter) - than the 8 B-1B's - in two flights of four - came up at the same 90º angle, only at supersonic speeds.

"Prepare for ALCM launch, said the squadron commander..."

And, beneath the waves, the submarine commanders reloaded their tubes with SLCM's...

OOC: Are there any defender fleets in the ocean?

Algeristan']From: The Holy Republic of Algeristan

To: Halberdgardia

The Holy Republic of Algeristan accepts this Treaty.

I propose the new alliance be known at the Pact of Steel.

I will send a diplomat over as soon a you wish for the Treaty to be signed on our side.

All apsects of the Treaty are to be meet on our side.

As Global Jihad was always a terrorist arm of state policy, you only need to tell us who you want attacked and Global Jihad will do it.

Does Halberdgardia sponser any rebel/terrorist groups?

I think we need to help our ally Leafanistan, to wipe out the Red Brigade.

Global Jihad could do this, given their very strong anti-communist ideology.

May Allah bless you, Mr. President and may He bless your great and united nation.

President Hassan Tarbani

To: President Hassan Tarbani, the Holy Empire of Algeristan
From: President Kir Kanos, the Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia
Re: Pact of Steel

We will send a representative to sign the treaty as soon as our new ambassador to your country has been nominated, and as soon as the coasts of your nation are no longer a warzone. However, know that the treaty has been ratified by our Congress, so it is essentially already in effect.

We currently do not sponsor any rebel or terrorist group. [OOC: Actually, we are still sponsoring the Democratic People's Front of Monitgnac (DPFM) in their fight for a new democratic government in Monitgnac, but given Algeristan's past involvement in that conflict, we're reluctant to tell you this. Other than that, we don't sponsor any other groups.]

We agree that the Red Brigade needs to be eliminated, though we believe Leafanistani authorities are currently doing an excellent job of containing them. Perhaps our nations can address this issue at a later time.

Respectfully,
President Kir Kanos
The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia

and i am ignoreing every1
so u just wasted them

now if i was to stop being ignored i will accept damages ow where was i

ahh yea i was going to leave this game cuz of the idoits who seem to hate me !!!!!!!!!!I'm not ignoring you. In fact, I'm hunting your fleet down and am on the verge of annihilating it...

Im going to come back but if some one calls me a god-moder once more u will get a nice shot from the Spam Cannon(My version of the ignore cannon)

Yea so attacks from now count (about from the one who just apeard out of no ware can i shoot him with the ignore cannon pls ;))

Algeristan']McKagan, you could sign the treaty as a third paty nation.

The Treaty was never specific about only having two members to it's Treaty.

Ok, I can do that.

But one thing, can MY nation BUILD it's own embassy?

We've got a paranoia factor here.

I'm not ignoring you. In fact, I'm hunting your fleet down and am on the verge of annihilating it...

Yes im shooting the ignore cannon at you , so I will be ignoreing anything you do , but not wat any one else does

OOC: Dammit, I leave for two hours and it all goes to hell. Oh well, time for Tannenmille to enter the fray. Assuming Algeristan is an island off the coast of Saharistan, here is my message:

IC:
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/9821/tannensoldier2ct.gif
Official Statement from the Government of Tannenmille

Due to the state of war between my allies McKagan, Halberdgardia, and Leafanistan and (whoever it is now that FishCaks is ignored), it has been decided that the Sucellan Governance shall declare war upon the enemies of our great alliance. 40,000 ZIG fighters have been scrambled and now patrol the skies over Algeristan and Saharistan. 300 MT/191 Dropships are making their way between Saharistan and Algeristan, deploying what will eventually make up 300,000 defense troops and medical supplies. We cannot stand for this kind of terrorism and crime.

Großkanzler and de facto Reichsführer Wolfgang Rosenthal
Soon-To-Be Reichsführer Peffe Tannen
Provinzführer Mark Goldfetter



OOC: Numbers:

300 MT/191 Dropships (160 troops per ship)
7 trips for all 300,000 troops
----
100,000 (total) ZIG fighters:
1,000 T4 Homing ZIGs
1,000 T4 Laser ZIGs
3,000 T4 Valcan ZIGs

5,000 T3 Homing ZIGs
10,000 T3 Laser ZIGs
10,000 T3 Valcan ZIGs

10,000 T2 Homing ZIGs
20,000 T2 Laser ZIGs
40,000 T2 Valcan ZIGs
(to lessen the impact of such a huge air force, I'll only use 40,000 at any time over all of Algeristan)
----
200,000 "normal" Stormtroopers
60,000 Scouttroopers
40,000 Elite Stormtroopers

Note: Before anyone bitches about me using ZIGs or Stormies or MT/191 ships: For the purposes of MT / PMT roleplay, they are no more powerful (besides perhaps speed in some instances) than their MT counterparts.

Im going to come back but if some one calls me a god-moder once more u will get a nice shot from the Spam Cannon(My version of the ignore cannon)

Yea so attacks from now count (about from the one who just apeard out of no ware can i shoot him with the ignore cannon pls ;))You had three or four posts warning before I closed on you. That's hardly "out of nowhere".

You've got 16 incoming torpedoes. You can begin to take evasive action or not.

Allied nations still here? If so lets start atacking

OOC: I am so screwed.

Yes im shooting the ignore cannon at you , so I will be ignoreing anything you do , but not wat any one else doesAnd your legitimate reason for ignoring me is?

OOC: Are there any defender ships in the ocean?

I have no conventional Navy, if your question was directed at me.

You had three or four posts warning before I closed on you. That's hardly "out of nowhere".

You've got 16 incoming torpedoes. You can begin to take evasive action or not.

Iv fired the ignore cannon at you beacuse you havent posted wat forces you have in the area , and 16 is god-moding also you did just apear out of no where , as you just posted with out saying hi and it was your 1st post

I'm not ignoring you. In fact, I'm hunting your fleet down and am on the verge of annihilating it...

OOC: Ahem...please read this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9401212&postcount=278). If that didn't already annihilate his fleet, I don't know what will.

The McKagan Vessel sent the message to Algeristan once again.

"Where can we dock?"

OOC: I am so screwed.

If your still here meet my ships 79 km out and we can carry on this war now i think ppl have stoped ignoreing me

As the raptors entered with in range the Fiskcak's fleet, they immediately fired an concetrated beam at one of the ships. They also came under fire by the navy and 2 of the 10 squadrons have only 2 fighters in their wing. They then sent an radio transmission to the Gyrobot navy. It said:

"This is alpha team to mother, our teams are under heavy fire we need anti-cruiser support over."

Immediately the naval fleet of Gyrobot fired several artillery rounds toward the cruisers in an attempt to deal damage towards their fleet.

If your still here meet my ships 79 km out and we can carry on this war now i think ppl have stoped ignoreing me
No everyone is still ignoring you except The Cosmic Balance, and your fleet is gone.

and 16 is god-moding

PLEEEASE!

God, you don't know ANYTHING about conventional naval warfare do you?

He he's got more than 2 subs on you, which he does, 16 is a LOW number.

I'm not trying to be mean, i've held off for days, but COME ON!

If your still here meet my ships 79 km out and we can carry on this war now i think ppl have stoped ignoreing me

OOC: No, we haven't. I launched an ungodly number of high-caliber shells at every remaining ship in your fleet, and you didn't even recognize it. Probably because you (correctly) realized it would annihilate your fleet. Until you accept the fact that you have had your ass handed to you on a silver platter, you're going to be ignored.

OOC: Ahem...please read this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9401212&postcount=278). If that didn't already annihilate his fleet, I don't know what will.

Didnt see that
ill take lose'ss
weave been hit again commander!

damage report

200 fataltys all glass blown out

lauch a curise missile or 10 at the bastard who fired it while your at it get the allied nations to do the same

Starenell regrettably is ignoring FishCaks for this thread.

Iv fired the ignore cannon at you beacuse you havent posted wat forces you have in the area , and 16 is god-moding also you did just apear out of no where , as you just posted with out saying hi and it was your 1st postAhem. My first post (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9401033&postcount=253) was 5-6 pages (and almost an hour ago). I gave you 3-4 posts before I even closed.

That post lists all of my forces, which are less than most people have.

16 torpedoes from 4 subs is not at all unrealistic; it means 4 tubes per submarine. You're lucky I don't use Russian designs - they have 6 forward tubes each.

IOW, you have no legitimate reason to ignore me, other than fear of getting wiped out.

If you begin to take evasive action against the torpedoes, I will assume no evasive action...

OOC: No, we haven't. I launched an ungodly number of high-caliber shells at every remaining ship in your fleet, and you didn't even recognize it. Probably because you (correctly) realized it would annihilate your fleet. Until you accept that you have had your ass handed to you on a silver platter, you're going to be ignored.

Leafanistan and I pounded him with close to 200 rounds and he lost 1 ship.

He tried to say that after we attacked him that he changed his mind and didn't fire on us in the first place.

Grab the heliecopters get all the army's off and hover

mayday mayday all ships going down any allys close i need to land 1000 marines and the command team

SIR YES SIR!

GO GO GO this is ship is sinking

Ahem. My first post (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9401033&postcount=253) was 5-6 pages (and almost an hour ago). I gave you 3-4 posts before I even closed.

That post lists all of my forces, which are less than most people have.

16 torpedoes from 4 subs is not at all unrealistic; it means 4 tubes per submarine. You're lucky I don't use Russian designs - they have 6 forward tubes each.

IOW, you have no legitimate reason to ignore me, other than fear of getting wiped out.
Ok ignore cannon re-jected but i thought i would treat u how every1 treated me ! :mad: :mad: :mad:

Okay, so no one but The Cosmic Balance recognizes Fishy. I am screwed.

Ahem. My first post (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9401033&postcount=253) was 5-6 pages (and almost an hour ago). I gave you 3-4 posts before I even closed.

That post lists all of my forces, which are less than most people have.

16 torpedoes from 4 subs is not at all unrealistic; it means 4 tubes per submarine. You're lucky I don't use Russian designs - they have 6 forward tubes each.

IOW, you have no legitimate reason to ignore me, other than fear of getting wiped out.

While we're on the subject, I was thinking of building a sub that had 10 tubes each and carried like 50 torpedos but i couldn't find a way to justify it.

OOC: Could someone alert me to what Algeristan's costal defences are like?

While we're on the subject, I was thinking of building a sub that had 10 tubes each and carried like 50 torpedos but i couldn't find a way to justify it.

Just call it the "Uber Buster"

A local squadron noticing that one of the sinking ship's evacuvated crew is trying to invade algeristan via helicopter immediately began aiming their missiles at their helicopters. Assisted by the plane's vulcan they began tearing the copter apart.

OOC: Hooray! Krendakov help me out I am alone in this mess!

Okay, so no one but The Cosmic Balance recognizes Fishy. I am screwed.

Can i Land my forces on your ships as i have no naval , as they enliaghted it (Yes thats wat that very loud bang is, there just expoliding)

Didnt see that
ill take lose'ss
weave been hit again commander!

damage report

200 fataltys all glass blown out

lauch a curise missile or 10 at the bastard who fired it while your at it get the allied nations to do the same

Grab the heliecopters get all the army's off and hover

mayday mayday all ships going down any allys close i need to land 1000 marines and the command team

SIR YES SIR!

GO GO GO this is ship is sinking

OOC: Uhhh...no. Clearly you don't understand what I did. Do you realize how massive a 30-inch shell is? You don't have broken glass, like you suggested in your post. You have entire ships broken in half. You have multiple 30-inchers hit, and you have ships ripped apart like a chainsaw through a wet paper bag. Even if you ignored all previous attacks, my attack alone would have sunk your entire fleet, even accounting for some misses by my ships.

Fishy I ignored you.

A local squadron noticing that one of the sinking ship's evacuvated crew is trying to invade algeristan via helicopter immediately began aiming their missiles at their helicopters. Assisted by the plane's vulcan they began tearing the copter apart.

Im no where near it , im flying away from the war zone , as i didnt say i was flying towards the island , so dont assume things!

No evasive action, eh?

The submarines now fired a second volley, this time of Tomahawk SLCM's - 16 in all. But that was hardly FishCak's biggest worry.

No, from each of the B-1B's erupted 12 Harpoons - a total volley of 96 missiles. And, like the torpedo volley, they were coming in at right angles. Whichever way FishCaks' positioned his ships, there would be both cruise missiles and torpedoes coming in from optimal attack angles.

Meanwhile, the CGN, the DDG, and the 3 FFG's chimed in, launching 14 more Harpoons and 4 Tomahawks. These would be a second wave, coming in right on the heels of the first.

Fine Thanks For Ruening One Of The Best Games I Have Ever Played! I Use To Like This Game But Now I Absoulty Hate It

Sorry but with practice you could improve.

Im no where near it , im flying away from the war zone , as i didnt say i was flying towards the island , so dont assume things!

OOC: whoops then I will edit it so I am attacking you as you are making your retreat

IC: The helicopters attemps to retreat in hopes of living to see another day, but Gyrobot's Raptors immediately began pursuit and are firing at thier helicopters with missiles and vulcans.

Impact in the next post...

BTW, the Tomahawks are aiming high and have FAE's as their load. That should mess up your carrier decks and troop transports beautifully.

No evasive action, eh?

The submarines now fired a second volley, this time of Tomahawk SLCM's - 16 in all. But that was hardly FishCak's biggest worry.

No, from each of the B-1B's erupted 12 Harpoons - a total volley of 96 missiles. And, like the torpedo volley, they were coming in at right angles. Whichever way FishCaks' positioned his ships, there would be both cruise missiles and torpedoes coming in from optimal attack angles.

Meanwhile, the CGN, the DDG, and the 3 FFG's chimed in, launching 14 more Harpoons and 4 Tomahawks. These would be a second wave, coming in right on the heels of the first.

all my ships have sunk obviously u dont read the posts

(OOC)

FishCaks, Get out of this RP.

CAN EVERYONE IGNORE HIM FROM NOW ON!

To: McKagan

You can use the port of Basra, about 35 miles from your ships or Medina, 28 miles from your ships.

No worries cosmic, I got them. I need to teach this sephiroth wannabe a lesson in rping.

OOC: Are any defender ships in between me and the island?

Fine Thanks For Ruening One Of The Best Games I Have Ever Played! I Use To Like This Game But Now I Absoulty Hate It
OOC: Let's hope that someday, there will be a good RP, where no-one god-modes. BTW: can I adopt a n00b, this one please! :D

No, the only one who defended alongside with you (and in a futile, godmoding way) was fishcaks, you can stop attacking if you want.

OOC: Krendakov I need help.

Yes. The Shazbotdom fleet and the Leafanistani fleet (not sure about Leafanistan's, but I know Shazbotdom does have his entire fleet in a defensive blockade protecting Algeristan)

Algeristan']
To: McKagan

You can use the port of Basra, about 35 miles from your ships or Medina, 28 miles from your ships.

Response

Our vessel is headed up your coastline for Medina, since it is closer AND has a cooler name.

Once we arrive can we be rearmed, we need more missiles and possibly more 155mm shells, if you have them. We're willing to pay a fair price too.

Algeristan'](OOC)

FishCaks, Get out of this RP.

CAN EVERYONE IGNORE HIM FROM NOW ON!

To: McKagan

You can use the port of Basra, about 35 miles from your ships or Medina, 28 miles from your ships.

OOC: So, what happens from here? FishCaks' fleet has been annihilated/ignored, and there don't seem to be any other hostiles.

i am serousyly never comming back to this game you have realy upset me , is that your life ambioton or something to upset people 1000's of miles away from you or something your nastysy person i have ever met on any online forum
in other words your a

PRAT!

OOC: Wait the ENTIRE shazbotdom fleet is there??? hmm...

all my ships have sunk obviously u dont read the postsThe torpedoes and anti-ship missiles slammed into what was left of the burning wreckage of FishCaks' fleet. But the most spectacular effect was of the 20 FAE's detonating over the whole frothing mass, licking the ocean surface with white-hot flame and slamming down upon the helpless soldiers in the water like a barrage of sledgehammers. Among the 3,000 men in the water, causualties were horrific.

Meanwhile, the submarine drivers reloaded their forward tubes and commenced looking for the two FishCaks' submarines. They were easily found, and two attack subs paired of, two on each of the surviving submarines.

Above, the B-1B's returned to base, as the fleet turned to break off, leaving only 4-5 helicopters to assist the subs in hunting down the remnants of FishCaks' fleet.

OOC: That's it, I'm disengaging. I don't know about FishCaks, but I had fun...

The Acclamator, along with the her escorts prepared to launch her quota of fighters. 20 LMF's prepared to launch, armed with ATG missiles and torpedos. "You are cleared for take-off." "Roger." Tiger Wing sped toawrds the remants of the enemy fleets... "Arm torpedoes, and fire on my mark." "Roger." 40 torpedoes dropped, and explosions followed... 5 Fighters went down, hit by AA defenses (right?). Tiger Wing turned back towards the carrier...

sephiroth

What ever happened to him?

Krendakov and I are hotiles, just quiet ones, and SkyCapt.

The entire division that was sent, yes. He put them into a blockade and then mentioned that he would be back tomorrow.

On another note, should I recall the forces?

so r u going to awser my question?

OOC: No, you were godmoding and really being annoying, come back when you can RP well.

Sorry, I only recognize a question as being such when I see a question mark and the one you just posted was the first I've seen from you.

OOC: So, what happens from here? FishCaks' fleet has been annihilated/ignored, and there don't seem to be any other hostiles.

I dunno, I've got a Downs Combat Team (10 APCs, 4 AAV's) aboard my destroyer here, I expected to have to do some sort of liberation/defense action, but so far I just chased people around and shot missiles.

*shrugs*

There are hostiles, you are not paying attention.

Krendakov and Starenell are entered into the ZIGs' HUDs as an Enemy, not sure about any others. Shazbotdom is neutral/Algeristan allied.

Two torpedoes from each attack sub, launched 15 seconds apart (so as to prevent effective evasion), with two more torpedoes from an ASW helicopter overheard - and all of that directed at each of the remaining subs FishCaks had brought into the area - were more than enough to finish the job.

The remaining naval elements disengaged and rejoined the fleet on the way back home.

OOC: Meh... this RP got really lame. I'm probably going to call it quits. BTW - I'm very interested in RP-ing with both Starenell and McKagan again. I'm also trying to adopt FishCaks, the boy has potential.

Well dammit, just as I get in it all falls apart.

:D

Two torpedoes from each attack sub, launched 15 seconds apart (so as to prevent effective evasion), with two more torpedoes from an ASW helicopter overheard - and all of that directed at each of the remaining subs FishCaks had brought into the area - were more than enough to finish the job.

The remaining naval elements disengaged and rejoined the fleet on the way back home.

Dude you have single handidly made submarine warfare look more appealing to me than it has in recent weeks.

So now i'm going to bring a Weiland Class sub (6 tubes, mind you) with me into every engagement incase a nube shows up.

Two torpedoes from each attack sub, launched 15 seconds apart (so as to prevent effective evasion), with two more torpedoes from an ASW helicopter overheard - and all of that directed at each of the remaining subs FishCaks had brought into the area - were more than enough to finish the job.

The remaining naval elements disengaged and rejoined the fleet on the way back home.

OOC: *whisper* Psst...I think he's dead... :p

Krendakov and Starenell, your hostile status is duly noted, though my fleet's staying where it is, and on high alert, for now.

OOC: I agree, it is too one sided.
The Copper Defense Fleets leaves the area.

w00t!

The Tannenmillians strut and share coffee with the McKagan (-ese?) and Halberdgardians at the news that we "won" as it were.

Its over? what a terrible thread, despite some good rping.

IC:

The McKagan 442 Destroyer has arrived at port.

Here 6 Marines get off and set up a peremeter and await an Algeristani attache' to come to what has became a massive floating office complex with guns and helicopters.

Unfortunately, yes. It's over, the Krendian navy pulls out. Leafanistan's missile ships were the beginning of the end. One word for them: 14/\/\3.

indeed. Perhaps I will launch a invasion into Algeristan to prevent the lameness.
Or maybe not.

Unfortunately, yes. It's over, the Krendian navy pulls out. Leafanistan's missile ships were the beginning of the end. One word for them: 14/\/\3.

OOC: But I balanced out those ships, once they unload their tubes, it will take hours to reload. And I've lost all my VLS batteries. Though hydrofoils with Exocets are coming into range, and the 9th Fleet is movnig rapidly toward us.

OOC: And I claim the most kickass kill out of all of you. I ran down a ship! :D

I guess t3h war is over? :(

OOC: Leafy, the war is basically over. Our fleet (i assume you want to have them together) has docked at a Algeristani port. We had to put a combined 500 or so rounds into Fishy's 5 or so ships to sink them.

He's been ignored now and we're going to start building embassys in Algeristan.

OOC: And I claim the most kickass kill out of all of you. I ran down a ship! :D

Dude that SOOOO gave me ideas.

Mainly what I am doing with the 30 Homelands I bought.

"Blockade runners" :p

I am pulling out, as this is getting dull. Losses are 5 pilots.

Upon hearing news of the enemy retreats, Fleet Admiral Jack Forrester put out the request for the Halberdgardian national anthem, "Halberdgardia the Grand," to be played over the fleetwide MP3 line. Lately, though, it was being referred to as "The Imperial March," as Halberdgardia's plan to call itself a Democratic Imperium was announced. Soon, the sounds of The Imperial March could be heard from hundred of yards away, even by slightly puzzled McKagan and Leafanistani crewmen. Nevertheless, the euphoria of victory must have been palpable for all as the song made its way to its triumphant crescendo...

[OOC: Yes, I have adopted the SW Imperial March as my national anthem. I'm terribly unoriginal like that.]

We're not really pulling out, actually. I'm just sensing back my carrier to refuel, rearm, and I'll be sending my other fleet in.

Upon hearing news of the enemy retreats, Fleet Admiral Jack Forrester put out the request for the Halberdgardian national anthem, "Halberdgardia the Grand," to be played over the fleetwide MP3 line. Lately, though, it was being referred to as "The Imperial March," as Halberdgardia's plan to call itself a Democratic Imperium was announced. Soon, the sounds of The Imperial March could be heard from hundred of yards away, even by slightly puzzled McKagan and Leafanistani crewmen. Nevertheless, the euphoria of victory must have been palpable for all as the song made its way to its triumphant crescendo...

[OOC: Yes, I have adopted the SW Imperial March as my national anthem. I'm terribly unoriginal like that.]

OOC: If you didn't get that idea from me i'm freaked out. I was talking about naming my nation a Democratic Imperium a few days ago. :p

Leafanistan also wants to sign the treaty with McKagan and Halberdgardia. And we could use your help eliminating worldwide Red Brigade Cells.

6 Weiland (hereby let it be known these are the new upgrades, MARK 2!) attack Submarines have been deployed to the position of the Type 442 Armored Office Building.

These vessels are going to support any counter-invasion force that could come about now.

The Alexandria class carrier, carrying 2 wings of fighters, trudged on through the waters. Men sat at their posts, bored and nervous. THe moon light up the deck as the light drizzle splattered around. The hum of the jet engines roared, drowning out the various calls going around the deck. In the bridge, men paced the deck, as officers talked over the radio to different pilots. Finally, the order to go was given, and 20 F-42 Interceptors blew off the deck, one by one, on into the bleary night, flying towards Algeristan, some destined to not return...

I'll be gone for 15-30 minutes.

The Alexandria class carrier, carrying 2 wings of fighters, trudged on through the waters. Men sat at their posts, bored and nervous. THe moon light up the deck as the light drizzle splattered around. The hum of the jet engines roared, drowning out the various calls going around the deck. In the bridge, men paced the deck, as officers talked over the radio to different pilots. Finally, the order to go was given, and 20 F-42 Interceptors blew off the deck, one by one, on into the bleary night, flying towards Algeristan, some destined to not return...


OOC:earlyer on i brought a stelth ship in this soooo......


The captain of he M.R.S. Tauron has seen the war light up and desend,the new orders to return home.



-SIR RADAR PICKING UP SkyCAPT JETS



-damn they are going to see us,then they will report back to the carrier.
Full ahead take us out of here,we have to get as far away as possible.

"Captain,massage from the admeral" said the young ensign.


"go ahead"said Captian Vadin Sanos,captain of the farragut class stelth destroyer M.R.S. Tauron(820 men,90 tomahawks,120 sams,80 harpoons,Hidden 12inch gun.


<securing network............network secured>



-AHHHH Vadin good to see you,you look like you are fit like the good old days.


-HAHAHA I see your sense of humor has not dissapeared now that you got a desk job.....sir.


-Now down to the task at hand.....you are to proceed to algeristan about 70-80 km from shore,you will observe only until thing heat up then new orders will be issued,avoid contact with enemy vessiles you will not communicate with anyone unless we say so,if you are sunk or captured......



-I know...we dont exsist roger that sir.


-Good luck captain and god speed old friend over and out.


the captain turned to his XO "patch me through to the rest of the men" "aye sir"

-"This is your captain as of now we are black ops...we dont exsist,all thing that can identifi us must be removed,and placed into a bag tied to a weight and thrown over bored now...that is all"


-XO full ahead.



-Aye sir FULL AHEAD


OOC: this was the ship i brought in

I agree, I'm pulling out, this is getting stupid. Good show everyone, you can go home.

But a warning: We will be back to finish what we started. Mark my words.

OOC: If you didn't get that idea from me i'm freaked out. I was talking about naming my nation a Democratic Imperium a few days ago. :p

OOC: I actually got the idea from Praetonia; he's a Democratic Imperium. Your comment about it just happened to remind me. And I'm only 61 million away from a custom title.

IC: A small private aircraft landed on one of the HFNEF's Titan-class aircraft carriers. From it stepped a figure, who was then almost immediately transferred to a helicopter, to be taken inland to the Algeristani capitol, where he would meet with the Algeristani leadership. The figure was Nevil Marcotte, the newly appointed Halberdgardian ambassador to Algeristan. Once Marcotte was onboard the helicopter, it took off, headed towards the Algeristani capitol.

When the helo was close to the capitol outskirts and the international airport, it hailed ground control.

"Control, this is Flight VHF-662, requesting permission to land."

My April '05 nation pwnz j00, I've had "Sucellan Governance of Tannenmille" for a few weeks now. :p

With the conflict (or lack of it) over, the F-22 Raptor team returned to the Carrier. Most of the deaths were caused by falling debris as they fought to take out the remnants of Fishcak's pathetic navy. Now they have an intention to exile another n00b from Earth II.

Meanwhile on the carrier of Nexus

Memorial wreaths were tossed into the ocean in memory of the troops who died in the campaign. Many of the crew cried as they have lost small allies to a big mouted newbie nation as well as losing their fellow men.

Gyro, would ya be interested in joining the Antartic Defense Coalition?

We, The Social Democratic Republic of Brydog would like to inform the fleets in the area, that a rouge officer ordered the mining of shipping routes. The officer is facing justice, put we asked that all fleets aid the 3rd in the removal of the mines.

Phew, thank god our ships pulled out before that.

OOC:earlyer on i brought a stelth ship in this soooo......


The captain of he M.R.S. Tauron has seen the war light up and desend,the new orders to return home.



-SIR RADAR PICKING UP SkyCAPT JETS



-damn they are going to see us,then they will report back to the carrier.
Full ahead take us out of here,we have to get as far away as possible.
Dead of night. And besides, they're heading towards Algeristan. And they're not equipped for anti-submarine warfare. [i]And[/b] I have 3 Judicator Class Destroyers. So don't get any ideas about attacking. Not that you will.

SkyCapt, come to the forums and call off the attack, we have some things to discuss.

SkyCapt, come to the forums and call off the attack, we have some things to discuss.

Ehh Who won?

Draco Wing flew through the skies, each plane weaving, each one equipped with 2 1,000Lbs smart bombs. The dawn skies were a pale red, and with the sun behind them, any incoming craft would have a hard time getting a visual. The F-42's swung down to a height of 2,000 feet, and the co-pilots began interacting with their targeting consoles and equipment. "Over the dropzone in 10..." "Roger." Each pilot began talking with his co-pilot about their assigned targets, and armed their weapons. They passed over the industrial zone, then the residential areas, and finally they reached their targets: The military installations. "Bombs away. Confirmed hit." A fuel storage building went up in flames, igniting nearby vehicles and buildings. More bombs rained around the facility. All hell broke loose. A plane got too low, and debris hit the wing. The pilots ejected, and their plane flew on, then the flames eating at it hit the fuel tanks, and the plane created a one-of-a-kind fireworks display. Part of a barracks exploded, and an then an ammunitions store exploded...
(waiting for Algeristan to begin firing and posting casualties. Once they do that, I'll post my casualties)

OOC: You didn't give him a chance to try to shoot at you or anything. Godmod. Ignored.

OK then. I've taken 10 planes downed: 9 by AA/AAA fire, and 1 to an accident. I'm sorry about any inconvience. :(

Due to the large threats made against Algeristan, we are moving 20 Type 442 Destroyers to various ports in and around the nation. Most will remain deployed, several will rotate in/out to aid in troop deployments. Not only are we sending these vessels, a patrol force of 25 Skate Frigates and 25 South Sea Class frigates is coming in with the superdreadnaught RMV Slash.


Secret IC

On top of this, we are hereby requesting the government of Algeristan allow for a 5000 man security force to move anti-aircraft and sea artillery units into the theatre to help lock down the shorelines to prevent ANY flyovers by hostile forces. Not only will these forces be using TAD's for air defense (extremly secret artillery peices,) tactical nuclear ordance is being secretly brought into the nation to aid in anti-big ship warfare. The 5000 man security force will be deployed to the coastline and hide using the natural terrain and high cliffs. Also, Operation Excalibur is underway. Now at least 20 Submarines are in the area, and using them the ENTIER area will be mined, minus 2 ways in that are hidden and only available to Algeristan, Hal, and Leafanistan.

SDs, hoho. Big moving targets if you ask me. Use of tac nukes against allies of the Velkyan Union will warrent an appropriate response by the Velkyan Union Stretgetic Forces Directive. Enemy missiles inbound on the Velkyan Union will be intercepted by the RDI ABM system, and Katana anti-missile fighters.

You can't shoot down every missile. And there would be ALOT more missiles headed for you than towards me.

My advice: Don't give me reason to use a tacnuke in the first place.

Gyro, would ya be interested in joining the Antartic Defense Coalition?

Why I will love to, our militia doesnt do much.

A conventional invasion is no reason to fire tactical nukes at a fleet, unless your a noob who can't duke it out in the conventional way and just wants to destory everything with a couple of warheads.

P.S. Velkya is a rich nation, thanks to military exports and the like. We currently have quite a large nuclear option, though we would only use it as a weapon of last resort.

The missiles i'm using are EXTREMLY small. You're a july nation. No matter what, my nation is going to have a few hundred more nukes. As it looks, your allies have NO nukes. While all three of my major allies do.

Also, you do not know i have nukes or even soldiers on the island IC, and the radiation from the nukes is so low that if I took out a whole fleet with it (small one or something, i dunno) it would be hard to tell I used a nuke.

As it stands, any invasion force will be delt with by any means I decide looks cool. (Don't ask me why i felt the need to say that)

Ahhh, the classic I GOTZ MORE n00kerz than uz cuz I'm olderz! argument.

Over a nation that you will lose interest with in a few weeks, on top of that.

SHips are surpsingly resilent to nuclear weapons, and of course we will know that its a nuke, judging by the mushroom cloud and radiation it will leave behind. Also, just how small do you think you'll make your missiles?

USUALLY age determines the number of nukes a nation is accepted to have. That's just my opinion, but I doubt either one of us would empty an entier arsonel. The most I could deploy at any one time (at top effectivness) is 1250.

Algeristan is NOT a nation i'll lose interest in, either. That just goes to show how little you know about this situation (if that's indeed what you're talking about.) Because this is all related to an RP I was in 1 week after joining.

Ships ARE resiliant to nuclear fallout, but a direct hit... meh, you need to shoot it down. Praetonian ships are supposed to be some of the most resilant, I think, but i'm not sure. The nukes i'm talking about are probably the hybrids in Leafanistans store. I've got a version of a tacnuke that's not quite that small though, so who knows.

It's Praetorian. ;) If this develops into a nuclear war, more than likely a couple of nations will fall out, and then it'll be a 3 vs 2 war. (I'm staying in until Velkya gets eliminated, or gives up)

Ship based weapons can't really hurt a nuke once in flight, but lets try to keep the nukes out of this one, it's a cheap tactic to use nukes on frontline forces.

Well, the situation i'm talking about is the fact that ALgeristan basically come in and starts blasting that communism and socialism is wrong and oppresses people. I send fleets in, then i'm absent for a few days and when I get back, Leafy and you are suddenly on his side (for fun), and my allies are embroiled in the fight. Naturally, I assist them, until the thread turns noobish (Leafys Missile Platforms), and I exit the thread for a short while, until SkyCapt comes in and starts attackin Algeristan, and you threaten the tac nuke. And here we are.

I've been in. I left to do some school work for 3 hours, then came back to find the war advanced to page 20+. That's when I re-entered and launched my fighter wings. My first war, and I miss out half of it... :(

Let's just pull out, and if Algeistan pisses us off again, we will mount a conventional war...no n00ks.

OR

We will give them Paris Hilton. Which ever is funnier.

Ship based weapons can't really hurt a nuke once in flight, but lets try to keep the nukes out of this one, it's a cheap tactic to use nukes on frontline forces.


Don't be worried about some sort of massive spam nuclear attack.

At most i'd take out an aircraft carrier or something, mostly i'll be using Tactical Artillery Peices from the Downs Combat Teams i've got on the ground.

Drunk or unintoxicated? I guess this is the promised war...

Warning. Sending A Nuke Our Way Will Result In Us Paradropping The Richest Stuppidest Whore Ever To Grace Realtiy Tv Into Algeristan. Reconsider Your Actions!

Thanks for not spammin, it will be interesting to see how an SD fares conventionally against dreadnaughts. 20 of them. :-)

BTW, I think it's impossible to mine the coastline of an entire country.

The smallest nuke that can still qualify as a nuke is launched at the most unpopulated part of The Velkyan Union from a Weiland Class Attack Submarine.

The following message was attached to a radio transmitter in the same unit.

"454.8 North, 275.2 West"

Are we (and McKagan) the only ppl active? And I think it might be possible to mine the coastline with 3 combined fleets doing it... ;) Of course, I could just send a couple of dud bombs down there and see what blows up...

Thanks for not spammin, it will be interesting to see how an SD fares conventionally against dreadnaughts. 20 of them. :-)

BTW, I think it's impossible to mine the coastline of an entire country.

It's possible to put random mines in places out at sea around a nation. Moving a bit fleet is BOUND to cause a few of them to... be used?

Mines are ineffective in the age of sonor and radar. Even if they are indectectable, a experianced admiral would simply blast a path through to the shore to allow gun batteries to pass through.

Mines are ineffective in the age of sonor and radar. Even if they are indectectable, a experianced admiral would simply blast a path through to the shore to allow gun batteries to pass through.

You're right.

But if you're moving mass amounts of ships in an area it's going to slow you down PLUS you're going to have an occasional incident.

Look at the top of this page.

I've got a whore on order. :p

An ugly one. http://forums.filefront.com/images/smilies/lol.gif

I hope Paris Hilton doesn't browse here...

The smallest nuke that can still qualify as a nuke is launched at the most unpopulated part of The Velkyan Union from a Weiland Class Attack Submarine.

The following message was attached to a radio transmitter in the same unit.

"454.8 North, 275.2 West"

"We got a TNW Inbound, going into the glide stage!"

"Shit!"

"Where is it headed?!"

"The town of Chestnut!"

"Damn it! Get me Katana 13!

"Katana 13, Katana 13!"

"This is Katana Flight 13!"

"TNW inbound, the recon sat tracking it!"

"Roger that, got the cooridnates!"

The first Katana painting the oncoming missile.

"Got a lock, fire the ALEABM!"

The Katana fired a sleek looking black missile.

"Damn it...come on..."

The two missile were only 100 miles apart.

50 miles.

A massive flash lit up the sat view.

"Confirmed hit, TNW is hit!"

"YEEHAW!!!"

The disabled TNW fell into the ocean, useless as a wet paper bag.

"Sratch one for the Vampires!"

"Commands working to figure out where that missile came from, you guys got an hour left on you patrol, chill."

"Man, screw you..."

"WHAT?!"

"Nothing, just glad to be alive..."

Ahh... THe war still has a flicker of hope

"We got a TNW Inbound, going into the glide stage!"

"Shit!"

"Where is it headed?!"

"The town of Chestnut!"

"Damn it! Get me Katana 13!

"Katana 13, Katana 13!"

"This is Katana Flight 13!"

"TNW inbound, the recon sat tracking it!"

"Roger that, got the cooridnates!"

The first Katana painting the oncoming missile.

"Got a lock, fire the ALEABM!"

The Katana fired a sleek looking black missile.

"Damn it...come on..."

The two missile were only 100 miles apart.

50 miles.

A massive flash lit up the sat view.

"Confirmed hit, TNW is hit!"

"YEEHAW!!!"

The disabled TNW fell into the ocean, useless as a wet paper bag.

"Sratch one for the Vampires!"

"Commands working to figure out where that missile came from, you guys got an hour left on you patrol, chill."

"Man, screw you..."

"WHAT?!"

"Nothing, just glad to be alive..."

OOC: You don't get it, do you?

OOC: Here it comes...

2 F-42's launched from the Acclamator, armed with only 10 ATA missiles, following their nightly patrol routes. Suddenly a beat-up, heavily damaged warhead fell into the ocean, 1,000 feet below. The missile was small, but big enough to send a shower of water over the jets. "The heck?" "No idea..." The two jet crews chattered back and forth, trying to figure out what had just happened... Meanwhile, on the Carrier's bridge, the officers and crew were listening to the radio chatter, and sent a message to Velkya, asking what happened, since a warhead had been reported flying there, spotted by another patrol...

OOC: Here it comes...

OOC: What did you say would happen if "a nuke was sent your way"?

The numbers were the coordinates we wanted her delivered to.

Heh, I'm afraid to go to bed because of the 20+ pages I'll miss... :p

OOC: I know the Katana concept sounds noobish, but heres how it works.

There are 20 Katana Patrols, 10 airborne at anytime, most of them in Velkyan airspace, some covering fleets and such. These missiles use a Missile Tracking Sat. (MTS) to track a ballastic missile when launched. Painting the target with a laser, the sat. then relays the coordinates, plotting, course, and size of the missile to a ground station, which then relays it to the nearest Katana patrol. The patrol travels at near hypersonic speed to a intercept point. The Katanas then target the missile itself, and fire a EMP releasing missile, which disables the missiles engines, guidance, and other vital systems, disabling the missile. Your sub-launched missile was a successful field test of the system.

IC:

WARNING FROM VELKYAN HIGH COMMAND

The warhead is still active, steam out of the area, and alert a Velkyan Naval
responce team to recover the missile.

Ok, yeah, here it comes.

The Acclamator suddenly recieved an urgent message from the Commander himself: "Get out now, that warhead your Patrol spotted is active!" "Roger." The Acclamator called in it's fighters, then moved out as fast as possible.

Good night all. It's like 10:30 here.

McKagen Airspace, 1 am.

"We are approaching the drop point. I hope this works..."

"Like, OH MY GOD, this wind is totlally ruining my hair! And look at poor Tinkerbell! She/hes getting cold! AWWWW!!! WAAAAA!!!"

"Sweet god..."

"Like, you want to fight, i'll take you on!"

"No Ms. Wh-Hilton"

"Damn right! You stupid nobody!"

The loadmaster mointed for the copilot of the Herucules to open the doors.

"Why am I even here with all these nobody hicks? I want to party! I want to party all ni-AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!"

Paris, her dog, and a parachute were thrown out into the dark night sky over McKagen.

Your whore has been delivered. As you may know, we are running a Buy One Spolied Bitch Get Another One Free! special. Are you interested?

Vatait Air Force Base, Northern Desert Research Facility

"Sir! Incoming!"

"What the fuck... wait, message from navy. Let it drop."

Paris, falling, saw nothing for a few moments after dropping through the final layer of clouds. Then it looked like a swarm of zombies inside a fence.

She allowed the dog to open the parachute (mainly because she couldn't figure out the rip line was down her shirt,) and she drifted to the ground.

Within moments the RMAF Strategic Command had a new operator...

OOC: All nations, beware.

Your whore has been delivered. As you may know, we are running a Buy One Spolied Bitch Get Another One Free! special. Are you interested?

Yes. Critical positons throughout RMAF Strategic Command need feeling.

You bastard...

Briteny Spears or Jennifer Lopez?

OOC: This is funny as shit...

wtf?

You bastard...

Briteny Spears or Jennifer Lopez?

OOC: This is funny as shit...

We'll pay for one of those and use the free card for the other.

Ship J Lo to the same airbase, and the Navy wants to put Spears in our newest intelligence submarine. Something about lots of cameras.

We will miss J-Los big behind. But no matter. En route.

Drop Brittney into the ocean at 45.2 North, 32.4 West. From there RMV Avisron will airlift her aboard where she will work as ships moral officer.

Muesilania has declared it has ended talks with members of the UNA and NAM. We would like to announce we could, if Algeristan agrees, drop peace keeping troops into the region. This would keep safe the civilians who have done nothing wrong, or any unnecessary loss of life, and would partially be under Algeristan control.

We do however reserve the right to remove the troops or override your orders if we do not agree they are being used how we wished them to. They will not engage in hostile action, unless fired upon.

Will Algeristan allow peacekeeping forces onto their soil? We can provide 1,500 troops (extremely well trained and equipped, drawn from our elite troops), ten APCs, two tanks, one helicoptor, twenty jeeps and a portable HQ complex, including MASH for our troops, and all personell required with that.

We await your decision.

OOC: Ive become a member :p

O. M. G. Only like 4 posts have been made all night?! :eek: Lol. Back on topic now...

The Acclamator and the Trillium arrived at the rendevous point, and now her captain looked over the fleet infron of him: 4 Battleships, 1 Carrier (plus his own), 1 Destroyer, and 1 submarine, the Essex II. Now, they awaited the green light from Velkya...

Message from captain of Muesilanian Aid Vessel:

"Our country, it has emerged, is attempting once again to set up neutral forces in Algeristan, for what purpose I am unaware of. Our knowledge is limited. We have received NO orders to pull out of the region, and we are still open to casualties, treating anybody who comes on board, no questions asked. Thank you."

I'll be gone for like 30 minutes to 5 hours. DOn't know. DOn't get too far ahead... ;)

I'll be gone for like 30 minutes to 5 hours. DOn't know. DOn't get too far ahead... ;)

OOC: Us? Far ahead? In 24 hours we've only filled up 30 pages and 451 messages have been posted, it's not like we're going through at a fast rate is it?

Edit: This was the first in page 31, lol :D

The Mods Have Deleted Algeristan!!!!!!

Algeristan No Longer Exists And All That Posting Was Now For Nothing.

The Mods Have Deleted Algeristan!!!!!!

Algeristan No Longer Exists And All That Posting Was Now For Nothing.

OOC: Well, if all is true this thread has done 2 things for me:

1) Wasted my time
2) Made me a member :p

All is good.

It also means:

1) Algeristan has been overthrown
2) 12000 people have been set free
3) A new government is in need of election
4) and last but not least, one less nutcase exists

Good RP all. No godmoding, thats... good.

How did you find out he got deleted?

If you continue to be abusive on the regional messageboards, forums, and telegrams, we will simply remove your ability to play this game. You lost one nation tonight. Stop there.

That was a message from the Mod Team to my other nation, Torontia.

All I did was IC remarks about how I would exterminate all homosexuals and watch them be torn apart in pools of blood and fire in Hell.

It was NOT offensive as it was IC, but some gay nation must have got all PC and asked for me to be deleted!

But you are not certain Algeristan got deleted? You are assuming he did as you got deleted for saying what he said?

Yes Im very certain!

I tried to log in and it says that Algeristan NO LONGER EXISTS!

What Did He Say?? Oh burn all homos! lol I like it!

Was it because you were selling TG's to that guy?
Damn thats unfair for IC comments!
And Algeristan was massive! wasnt it? Take ages to rebuild that!

Algeristan was massive. It is unfair to get deleted for IC comments, it doesn't mean you support the ideas. Argue your case.

Is it possible to restore your nation?

Who knows? Its worth a go though isn't it?

I have no idea!

I made it clear that I was making IC and NOT OOC remarks as I addressed them by Algeristan and my nations President.

OOC: In the case that the mods do not revive Algeristan...well, I don't know about my fellow SWC members, but I'm moving in troops to secure territory for Halberdgardia. Chalk up another Provincial Territory for me.

IC: Upon hearing the sudden demise of the former Algeristani regime, MILCOM back home ordered the HFNEF to seize the opportunity. The HFNEF's 25,000-plus troops landed ashore, and immediately began claiming wide swaths of Algeristani land in the name of Halberdgardia. They began fortifying their positions, and setting up temporary command posts and bases. Aid and supplies were distributed to locals who needed food, water, medicine.

Halberdgardia:

I do want us to build an alliance so I am just going to have to make ANOTHER nation!

If your bored of the Islamic regimes that many of my nations had, any suggestions as to a new type of nation.

I was thinking of making a NS version of the Portuguese 'Estado Novo'/New State, the regime that ruled RL Portugal from 1926 to 1974.

My new nation could come complete with a NS Antonio Salazar!

NAM-UNA, the peace organisation alliance between the Non Aligned Movement and the Unarmed Nations Alliance, is moving troops in as PEACEKEEPING FORCES, who will be NEUTRAL.

Their main job is to secure release for all captives of the 12000 who are unfairly imprisoned. They will also be there to make sure that treatment of civilians by Halberdgardia is satisfactory and that no war crimes are committed.

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2,000 troops from various nations from within NAM-UNA landed on the airstrip in a large transport plane. Men swarmed out, followed by jeeps in numbers. A second plane landed, in which less men and less jeeps came out, followed by a temporary base.

The General of the operation requests that Halberdgardia does not attack these forces, who are their for safe release of the 12000 (who are not criminals) and peacekeeping.

During this operation, NAM-UNA also asks whether or not nations who were helping us before the end of the war are still to be considered allies in our operation as it stands?

Halberdgardia:

I do want us to build an alliance so I am just going to have to make ANOTHER nation!

If your bored of the Islamic regimes that many of my nations had, any suggestions as to a new type of nation.

I was thinking of making a NS version of the Portuguese 'Estado Novo'/New State, the regime that ruled RL Portugal from 1926 to 1974.

My new nation could come complete with a NS Antonio Salazar!
First of all, let me express my simpathies for the demise of Algeristan. It was a truly lively actor in the international forum, providing endless hours of fun. Its erradication by the powers-to-be proves that some people have a low-oppinion of freedom of speeech...although i, for one, couldn´t see how a fundamentalist islamic nation could act otherwise towards subjects like gays rights...a bit of liberal-slant from the moderator,i guess...
Anyway, best wishes on your new nation, and if it turns out to be a version of the portuguese Estado Novo, i´m confident that your unlimited imagination in roleplaying will keep us glued to the set for sometime to come...if any doubt arises in the process of laying out this version, feel free to ask for direction, as i´m portuguese and a bit of a history buff.

Sergio:

Being from Portugal, what are your RL views on the Salazar government and the Estado Novo?

Halberdgardia:

I do want us to build an alliance so I am just going to have to make ANOTHER nation!

If your bored of the Islamic regimes that many of my nations had, any suggestions as to a new type of nation.

I was thinking of making a NS version of the Portuguese 'Estado Novo'/New State, the regime that ruled RL Portugal from 1926 to 1974.

My new nation could come complete with a NS Antonio Salazar!

OOC: Yes, just assume that the treaty/ambassador we signed for Algeristan will automatically transfer over to your new nation. As for the regime of the new nation, I wouldn't mind seeing you have a communist regime, so long as you don't go radically anti-capitalist and mistreat your citizens too badly. If you want to go with the Estado Novo, you could, but from the Wikipedia article on it, the economy crashed pretty badly: too much state control. Whatever you choose, I'd just like to see a little more leeway in the way of civil/political rights.

OOC EDIT: On another note, it might be helpful, Torontia, if you described Algeristan to someone with mapmaking skills, so we can quantify the amount of territory in Algeristan.

NAM-UNA, the peace organisation alliance between the Non Aligned Movement and the Unarmed Nations Alliance, is moving troops in as PEACEKEEPING FORCES, who will be NEUTRAL.

Their main job is to secure release for all captives of the 12000 who are unfairly imprisoned. They will also be there to make sure that treatment of civilians by Halberdgardia is satisfactory and that no war crimes are committed.

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2,000 troops from various nations from within NAM-UNA landed on the airstrip in a large transport plane. Men swarmed out, followed by jeeps in numbers. A second plane landed, in which less men and less jeeps came out, followed by a temporary base.

The General of the operation requests that Halberdgardia does not attack these forces, who are their for safe release of the 12000 (who are not criminals) and peacekeeping.

During this operation, NAM-UNA also asks whether or not nations who were helping us before the end of the war are still to be considered allies in our operation as it stands?

To: The Field Commander of NAM-UNA Peacekeeping Forces
From: General Randall Laurenzi, CINCSAR, the Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia
Re: Operations

I assure you, Halberdgardian troops have never and will never commit war crimes against the native populace of any country. As I believe that more SWC member nations will soon be sending in troops to other regions of Algeristan to secure them, I suggest that a joint SWC-NAM-UNA operation be undertaken to ensure the wellbeing of the 12,000 that were slated for execution, and to ensure that the actual criminals among the group are tried and punished accordingly. Though I do not believe we will exercise it, please understand that Halberdgardian command in the area reserves the right to request the withdrawal of NAM-UNA troops at any time, as they are now technically on sovereign Halberdgardian territory. Again, though, I doubt we will have to do so. I look forward to working with your men.

Respectfully,
General Randall Laurenzi
CINCSAR (Commander-in-Chief, Saharistan)
The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia

Sergio:

Being from Portugal, what are your RL views on the Salazar government and the Estado Novo?
Well, in 1926 a coup from large sectors of the military overthrew what was known as the First Republic, wich had come into existence after the downfall of the Monarchy, in 1910...this coup was warmly welcomed by the country, because the first republic had been thrown into a quagmire of political bickering that was leading to a faltering economt...the price of essencial items like bread and foodstufs was continually on the rise...a military junta took power, but over time the portuguese intelligentsia, formed by graduates from the university establishement came to proeminence in governement...included in this movement was Antonio de Oliveira Salazar...

Thank you for your support. I assure you we were not accusing you of committing war crimes or expecting you to.

NAM-UNA would request to stay in the area until security can be reinstated by whoever happens to take control of the said area. We will happily leave if requested by controlling forces, if anything just to avoid conflict.

We have begun releasing captives, nearly fifty have been released, and one detained due to the crime of murder. We will leave him to be dealt with by you.

If our troops come under fire, being a small force, we would have trouble in defence of our forces. Would you as occupier of the nation be able to offer protection to our forces? We would appreciate it greatly if you could, but it is not entirely necessary.

Thanks again,
General Yosuf of the NAM-UNA Peace Force

Well... So, now what? I didn't even get to send in my Spec Ops troopers... :(

Well Sergio, reading your post I can see that you must of been a very sad man on April 25th!

OOC: Hey, Torontia:

On another note, it might be helpful, Torontia, if you described Algeristan to someone with mapmaking skills, so we can quantify the amount of territory in Algeristan.

IC: Thank you for your support. I assure you we were not accusing you of committing war crimes or expecting you to.

NAM-UNA would request to stay in the area until security can be reinstated by whoever happens to take control of the said area. We will happily leave if requested by controlling forces, if anything just to avoid conflict.

We have begun releasing captives, nearly fifty have been released, and one detained due to the crime of murder. We will leave him to be dealt with by you.

If our troops come under fire, being a small force, we would have trouble in defence of our forces. Would you as occupier of the nation be able to offer protection to our forces? We would appreciate it greatly if you could, but it is not entirely necessary.

Thanks again,
General Yosuf of the NAM-UNA Peace Force

To: General Yosuf, NAM-UNA Peacekeeping Force
From: General Randall Laurenzi, CINCSAR, the Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia
Re: Operations

Our troops are well-trained in reconstruction efforts; Halberdgardia has assumed the role of peacekeeper/reconstructor many times in the past. As there does not appear to be widespread chaos and disorder, and due to the fact that Halberdgardian troops managed to land in Algeristan relatively quickly after the demise of the former regime, we do not anticipate many security problems.

As for the captives, we too have begun a screening process, to separate the true criminals (the drug dealers, murderers, rapists, etc.) from the non-criminals. The non-criminals are being allowed back into society, and we are providing those who wish to leave with transport out of the country. We are setting up a provisional POW camp for the criminals we have screened out thus far; we request that any criminals you wish to send to us be sent there.

Finally, with regards to the defense of your men, I am sure that my men would be willing to oblige. We may not have a substantial number of troops on the ground right now, but more are being dispatched from the homeland to reinforce our current forces here, and we have substantial naval and air support both off the Algeristani coast and at air bases relatively close by in other countries. Add to that the forces that are likely to arrive from other SWC powers, and you have a substantial defense force in place.

Respectfully,
General Randall Laurenzi
CINCSAR
The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia

An update on the situation:

one hundred people have now been cleared out of the 12,000. This is a small dent in what is a large task. Three people have had to be detained however, not because they have done crimes, simply due to lack, or rather no, records. They are apparently all members of the same family.

The NAM-UNA troops are out making friends with the civilians today. They are spreading a message of peace and security. All the troops are ordered not to fire unless fired upon. The troops are making advances through the country, not to gain land for the UNA, but to kepe things peaceful.

The NAM-UNA base has been set up today, and the MASH has so far remained free of wounded.

A minor fight broke out today, which had to broken up by forces on the ground. The two men were arguing over the ownership of a set of cuttlery. The situation still continues, as both men claim ownership.

Algeristan is an Island off the coast of Saharistan.

Saharistan is where RL Yemen is and Algeristan used to be a Saudi Island.

Im crap at maps though, can someone else do it.

Salazar was what you would call a political conservative...in the continental vue of the conservantism, that is, not the british one...a firm follower of th Catholic´s church political and social doctrine, he was a staunch opposer to liberal democracy and all the concepts associated with Modernity...being an expert in Public Finances, he balanced the budget much like a housewife would do, ensuring that the prices of foodstufs would always remain stabably low to allay the working classes bitching and moaning...he was a firm anti-communist, anti-liberal...during his consulate, several fascist-like institutions were created: a single party (Uniao Nacional, later known as Acção Nacional Popular), Mocidade Portuguesa (similar to the Pionners in USSR) and others...but he wasn´t a fascist, or did Portugal become a fascist dictatorship under his rule...actually he loathed fascism for being a anti-conservative movement wich sought to downthrow the traditional institutions of the mediterranian societies, like the power of the church...above all, he feared fascism because it was a revolutionary ideology (like communism), contrary to everythinh continental conservantism held dear...so, he wasn´t, surely, a Mosley...he mantained neutrality in WW2, although ordering a three-day morning period for the death of Hiler...he apparently gave in to popular demands of free elections in 1958, when the opposition man, Humberto Delgado, was rumoured to win by a landslide...but blatant vote- rigging assured victoy for the governement...Humberto Delgado´s corpse was latter found in the spanish side of the border, and suspisions of having been Salazar ordering his slaying have never been proved. When, in the 60´s, independist movements started their armed guerrila in the african collonies, he, unlike De Gaulle, stayed the course for military intervention which would last up until the revolution of 74...by the way, Salazar was never formally the head of state, although the former was always a man of his confidence...is official title was Presidente do Concelho de Ministros (similar to PM). He collapsed from a chair while in a public ocasion in 69 (if memory doesn´t fail me) and never recovered...to the last day of his life, he believed that he was still running the show...actually Marcello Caetano, his disciple, took charge...some political liberties were awarded, and for sometime there was some confidence that democracy would follow...but that wasn´t to be...in April 74, a middle-rank movement of the armed forces took into effect a mostly bloodlees coup and overthrew the Estado-Novo...another phase of political turmoil would follow...still, the public consensus on the Estado Novo was that it had its ups (the neutrality in the ww2, the balanced budget, a sustained economic growth specially in the 60´s), but had many more downs (supression of all political freedoms, international isolationism,etc...)

An update on the situation:

one hundred people have now been cleared out of the 12,000. This is a small dent in what is a large task. Three people have had to be detained however, not because they have done crimes, simply due to lack, or rather no, records. They are apparently all members of the same family.

The NAM-UNA troops are out making friends with the civilians today. They are spreading a message of peace and security. All the troops are ordered not to fire unless fired upon. The troops are making advances through the country, not to gain land for the UNA, but to kepe things peaceful.

The NAM-UNA base has been set up today, and the MASH has so far remained free of wounded.

A minor fight broke out today, which had to broken up by forces on the ground. The two men were arguing over the ownership of a set of cuttlery. The situation still continues, as both men claim ownership.

Halberdgardian troops, now well-versed in the culture and ways of Islamic societies following Saharistan and Rovonia, are often seen with NAM-UNA troops, handing out candy to children, and food and supplies to adults. Fortunately, there is little for the Halberdgardian force to do but keep an eye on things: unlike Saharistan and Rovonia, there was no massive loss of order following the old regime's collapse, and there was no destruction at all. Therefore, Halberdgardian troops are often seen simply patrolling areas of Algeristan on their Scorpion Light Attack Dune Buggies, waving at citizens as they pass, and stopping occasionally to talk with local town and city leaders, as well as ordinary citizens. Soon, the people of Algeristan have come to see the Halberdgardians, and the NAM-UNA troops, as their new police force. However, the Halberdgardian troops make it a point to include former Algeristani miltary men and Algeristani police in their efforts, so as to keep these men from using their expertise in acts of terrorism.

I may do a communist nation.

In RL I am a communist (non-leninist/council communist) and a firm atheist, not to mention Im gay.

So Algeristan was the political opposite of what I was.

I just like using NS to play Mr. Evil.

But maybe the time for a REAL communist nation is at hand.

But it would be ultra leftist and EXTREME democracy, every law and decision would have to be made via referendum and there would be no ranks in the military and NO private property at all.

I despise reformist mixed economy socialism as a betrayal of real communist ideals.

However, fear not as my nation would not invade other nations, due to anti imperialist ideology and would only spread communism by giving aid to ANY genuine Marxist rebel group or nation.

Nations like Monitgnac and Leafy would not be viewed as real communist nations, just reformist corrupt revisionist regimes.

Well Sergio, reading your post I can see that you must of been a very sad man on April 25th!
Actually i was born in November 76

I may do a communist nation.

In RL I am a communist (non-leninist/council communist) and a firm atheist, not to mention Im gay.

So Algeristan was the political opposite of what I was.

I just like using NS to play Mr. Evil.

But maybe the time for a REAL communist nation is at hand.

But it would be ultra leftist and EXTREME democracy, every law and decision would have to be made via referendum and there would be no ranks in the military and NO private property at all.

I despise reformist mixed economy socialism as a betrayal of real communist ideals.

However, fear not as my nation would not invade other nations, due to anti imperialist ideology and would only spread communism by giving aid to ANY genuine Marxist rebel group or nation.

Nations like Monitgnac and Leafy would not be viewed as real communist nations, just reformist corrupt revisionist regimes.

OOC: I could roll with that. Sounds good to me. On the note of the Algeristan map, you say it's near RL Yemen and used to be a Saudi island. Would you say it's a relatively small island, then? Because if it is, my 25,000 troops might be enough to hold the whole island by themselves. If not, I'll just take part and leave the rest for the other SWC guys to claim.

The Island is about the size of Newfoundland.

BTW, Halberdgardia, what are your RL political views, if you don't mind me asking.

I know your American, Bush voter??? Kerry??? Nader??? or Buchanan :D ???

Halberdgardian troops, now well-versed in the culture and ways of Islamic societies following Saharistan and Rovonia, are often seen with NAM-UNA troops, handing out candy to children, and food and supplies to adults. Fortunately, there is little for the Halberdgardian force to do but keep an eye on things: unlike Saharistan and Rovonia, there was no massive loss of order following the old regime's collapse, and there was no destruction at all. Therefore, Halberdgardian troops are often seen simply patrolling areas of Algeristan on their Scorpion Light Attack Dune Buggies, waving at citizens as they pass, and stopping occasionally to talk with local town and city leaders, as well as ordinary citizens. Soon, the people of Algeristan have come to see the Halberdgardians, and the NAM-UNA troops, as their new police force. However, the Halberdgardian troops make it a point to include former Algeristani miltary men and Algeristani police in their efforts, so as to keep these men from using their expertise in acts of terrorism.

We are glad to see this takeover is going peacefully, and as of yet no loss of life has occured, very much different from the battle preceding this situation. We are glad to see you are taking steps to reduce the chance of servicemen losing life. The civilians appear to be taking the occupation well, but I don't think they know the difference between our two forces. I believe they see us as one force who is taking over the country. They seem to be glad that the 12000 are being released. The released captives show their gratitude in different ways, but not one of them wasn't satisfied. Some hug the men releasing them, others bow, english speakers show their thanks in words.

As the current situation stands, Muesilania as head of the UNA give their full support to your occupation of Algeristan. We hope that the situation stays the same.

Does anyone have an airfield in Algeristan, even a temporary one?

The Island is about the size of Newfoundland.

BTW, Halberdgardia, what are your RL political views, if you don't mind me asking.

I know your American, Bush voter??? Kerry??? Nader??? or Buchanan :D ???

OOC: Well, then I think I might just be able to claim it myself. He who lands troops fastest gets the land, after all. :D

As for my political views, it's a bit difficult. I'm not old enough to vote yet, but had I been able to, I would have voted Bush. He's the lesser of two evils to me. I don't feel that I really fall into the hardline category of either Democrat or Republican; I know what my views are, and I stick to them. If I had to be tied to a party, though, I'd say I lean towards Republican.

We are glad to see this takeover is going peacefully, and as of yet no loss of life has occured, very much different from the battle preceding this situation. We are glad to see you are taking steps to reduce the chance of servicemen losing life. The civilians appear to be taking the occupation well, but I don't think they know the difference between our two forces. I believe they see us as one force who is taking over the country. They seem to be glad that the 12000 are being released. The released captives show their gratitude in different ways, but not one of them wasn't satisfied. Some hug the men releasing them, others bow, english speakers show their thanks in words.

As the current situation stands, Muesilania as head of the UNA give their full support to your occupation of Algeristan. We hope that the situation stays the same.

Halberdgardian troops make it known that they are here to stay to keep the country together, and that the NAM-UNA troops are in the country temporarily to assist. A detachment of 75,000 Halberdgardian troops is landed to reinforce the 25,000 already in place, bringing the total amount of troops to 100,000 to secure the entire island. Tanks, HMMVs, and Scorpions, and heavy infantry weapons are brought onshore as well. Halberdgardian Army Corps of Engineers are also among the combat troops landed, to begin construction on permament military bases, naval bases, air bases, border checkpoints, and naval defense guns. Upon completion of the air bases, Halberdgardian fighters and bombers will be landed for permanent stationing in Algeristan.

Does anyone have an airfield in Algeristan, even a temporary one?

There are airports in the country. I landed NAM-UNA troops that way.

2 refitted B-94 transports circled the city, laden with supplies. One carried 2 squadrons of Assualt Troopers, ordered to search abandoned parts of the city. "This is Bravo Flight, requesting permission to land... *15 second wait*" "Over?"...

Skycapt:

We hope that your presence in the country will be peaceful and that you do not attack NAM-UNA forces.

If your presence is to be peaceful, we would ask for your protection of our forces, as Halberdgardia has promised.

2 refitted B-94 transports circled the city, laden with supplies. One carried 2 squadrons of Assualt Troopers, ordered to search abandoned parts of the city. "This is Bravo Flight, requesting permission to land... *15 second wait*" "Over?"...

"This is Halberdgardian Control. Permission to land granted. Please send your supplies and men to the central command post for efficient distribution and assignment."

Yes. We're going in to secure any parts of the city that are not yet cleared, and to provide cover for any humanitarian aid.

Hum, you´ve used the Islamic venue, why not find a christian-fundamentalist nation?

Yes. We're going in to secure any parts of the city that are not yet cleared, and to provide cover for any humanitarian aid.

"With all due respect, the country is essentially secured. Your troops may join the NAM-UNA troops in their patrols and humanitarian operations, but if it's action they're looking for, they going to be disappointed."

"This is Bravo Flight, copy." The two transports flew around, circling lower, until they reached the landing pattern. As the first went down, a tire blew, causing the plane to swerve left and right. First the left wing, then right wing went down, smashing into buildings and barrels. Finally, the huge jet came to a stop, but not before creating a hole big enough for 2 jeeps to come through in a wall. Bravo 2 went in without a hitch, and the troopers hopped out as soon as the plane stopped, running over to the downed B-94...

Halberdgardian troops, now well-versed in the culture and ways of Islamic societies following Saharistan and Rovonia, are often seen with NAM-UNA troops, handing out candy to children, and food and supplies to adults. Fortunately, there is little for the Halberdgardian force to do but keep an eye on things: unlike Saharistan and Rovonia, there was no massive loss of order following the old regime's collapse, and there was no destruction at all. Therefore, Halberdgardian troops are often seen simply patrolling areas of Algeristan on their Scorpion Light Attack Dune Buggies, waving at citizens as they pass, and stopping occasionally to talk with local town and city leaders, as well as ordinary citizens. Soon, the people of Algeristan have come to see the Halberdgardians, and the NAM-UNA troops, as their new police force. However, the Halberdgardian troops make it a point to include former Algeristani miltary men and Algeristani police in their efforts, so as to keep these men from using their expertise in acts of terrorism.
Hey, this is like Rumsfeld´s "our troops will be greeted with roses"...you´re anice chap for making Rummis´s dream come true

"This is Bravo Flight, copy." The two transports flew around, circling lower, until they reached the landing pattern. As the first went down, a tire blew, causing the plane to swerve left and right. First the left wing, then right wing went down, smashing into buildings and barrels. Finally, the huge jet came to a stop, but not before creating a hole big enough for 2 jeeps to come through in a wall. Bravo 2 went in without a hitch, and the troopers hopped out as soon as the plane stopped, running over to the downed B-94...

A Halberdgardian Marine lieutenant was watching the transports come down with his platoon when he saw its tire blow out...

"Shit! MOVE, MOVE, MOVE!"

The platoon raced to the downed plane, joining the SkyCapt men from the other transport.

"Get a recovery crew down here, ASAP!"

Hey, this is like Rumsfeld´s "our troops will be greeted with roses"...you´re anice chap for making Rummis´s dream come true

OOC: Having seen the mistakes our administration made in Iraq, I take care not to repeat them. :p

hello , are ppl still ignoreing me ?

Hey, this is like Rumsfeld´s "our troops will be greeted with roses"...you´re anice chap for making Rummis´s dream come true

OOC: Not quite sure what you mean.

IC:

NAM-UNA is sending troops to help with your situation Sergio the First. What is the current situation? All details required. Emergency services within the country have been alerted and are en route. Is anybody injured?

hello , are ppl still ignoreing me ?

OOC: What do you mean, why would they?

OOC: What do you mean, why would they?
read back 15 pages , but hey im back i will help with the peace keeping

IC

A transport plane flys around the city.

*Radio*
This is FC Transport come in ground control , requesting landing permishon
over

Capt. Hillman got to the cockpit first, and called for two men to help him get the door off. It fell to the ground, revealing a huge mess of wires, blood, and other objects. Pulling off on of the pilots, they got to the co-pilot, who was critcally injured. THey went into the back to help the other crew members, and saw medical supplies, clothes, food, and the crew themselves strewn around. "Son of a, what a mess," one the officers said, hefting an unconsious (SP?) man over his shoulder. The tail door fell off with a bang, and part of the top fell in, smashing a crate of food. Other soldiers from the airfield arrived, taking out men and supplies, until the plane was clear...

OOC: Gotta go now.

IC: NAM-UNA forces arrive shortly after emergency vehicles. They help with the transportation of injured in military vehicles, and take the overspill from the hospital to the NAM-UNA Mash (Mobile Army Surgical Hospital, incase you didn't know).

OOC: Cya, be back later or tomorrow.

OOC: Not quite sure what you mean.

IC:

NAM-UNA is sending troops to help with your situation Sergio the First. What is the current situation? All details required. Emergency services within the country have been alerted and are en route. Is anybody injured?
What in God´s name are you babling about?