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My captin has a $1000 ink pen , with duel ink , one red one blue

Well as this is a serious RP i thought that the UN would intervenve , if they did it could be fun
btw stop calling me a noob


Noob,

Nation States doesn't work that way.

I'll stop calling you a noob when you stop acting like one.

well i prefere to be called a newbie to role play on ns but not to role play
but as thats long i'll settle with noob

My captin has a $1000 ink pen , with duel ink , one red one blue

Acting like that is why everyone calls you a noob.

Acting like that is why everyone calls you a noob.
that was a un funny joke aimed @ u , but seriously , mediume sized nation how much should they spend also i will supply fuel for your army in this up comming conflict;)

Hey Algeristan can I participate? I know I am FT, but I will be happy to play on your terms.

I don't know. I didn't keep track during the original Saharistan war, but as long as you don't take MAJOR loses you won't need to spend too much.

I don't need fuel. Ships are nuclear powered. So unless my people forget to rotate ships off the lines for the next few decades i'll be ok. The ships already carry fuel for helo's and i wouldn't use that much anyway.

IC From Now on with me

Ok , That technogly sounds interesting where do you buy it? All mine are powerd by non-nucheler power

Im bored lets do some rp , so we can practice , why dont we take out our armys on "Training" Exercises and if you want to move the ships into the area of alegstian (SP?)

Everyone can't be in a nearby country.

I'm RPing as being on the other side of the world.

Thus, my 6 Squadrons of F/A-22k Raptors are WAAAAAY out of range.

I'm really far away also, that means the force I will send won't be getting many reinforcements. I need to decide what to bring out of what I have to begin with.

Imperial Praetonian Shipyards,

Expensive, but great.

The 442's were made by someone else but i've got production rights now, and the other destroyers are IPS.

can u give me a link to that store front?

I'm really far away also, that means the force I will send won't be getting many reinforcements. I need to decide what to bring out of what I have to begin with.

I'm taking two waves.

The first, meant to blow stuff up from sea.

The second, the amphibious force.

I think the best plan would be that all army's stay of off the beachs untill its been bombed (I could use FC01 UAV to mark targets for friendly curise missiles) then we go on using boats and a few vechuals then we drive to the captial taking anything on the way
then we take the country and install a new goverment then go into peacekeeping dutys
wat do u guys think?

that you need to improve your typing.

What is wrong with my typing ? and do u like my idea?

that you need to improve your typing.

I second that motion! :P

can u give me a link to that store front?

IPS (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=422657)

442 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=434961)

I think the best plan would be that all army's stay of off the beachs untill its been bombed (I could use FC01 UAV to mark targets for friendly curise missiles) then we go on using boats and a few vechuals then we drive to the captial taking anything on the way
then we take the country and install a new goverment then go into peacekeeping dutys
wat do u guys think?

You're staying off the beaches for a long time anyway if you're going to be in this RP.

And once you do get there you don't just make one post saying you've made it to the capital.

I'm seriously considering ignoring you.

OOC: Because I really don't feel like reading through 18 pages of this thread to figure things out myself, would someone care to explain what's going on here?

I'm back, by the way. :p

cheers i can carry on increasing my force for this up comming conflict , i hope i can earn it back , or i will raise taxes one or the other or even sell it to this werid person who wants ships in any condion

OOC: Because I really don't feel like reading through 18 pages of this thread to figure things out myself, would someone care to explain what's going on here?

I'm back, by the way. :p

Erm... well...

Saharistan came back as Torontia, his leader is on trail in allendale or something.

We started this a while back, and had a thread going, but FishNube here godmodded and we had to start over an invitation thread for a future RPG that would be closed, and Fish wants to be in it and it anyway.

BTW, I nuked Algeristan in the last thread, it was nuclear war. 1250 missiles from sub based things.

Erm... well...

Saharistan came back as Torontia, his leader is on trail in allendale or something.

We started this a while back, and had a thread going, but FishNube here godmodded and we had to start over an invitation thread for a future RPG that would be closed, and Fish wants to be in it and it anyway.

BTW, I nuked Algeristan in the last thread, it was nuclear war. 1250 missiles from sub based things.

I didnt god mod all i did was report the wrong thing thru my news system , i lost 10 million in them strikes (which in my opinon where god mod beacuse wat sort of nation can lauch 500 nukes at onnce?)

You lost 10 million....
You have a population of 8 million.
Do the maths.

er , yea 5 million , but that didnt happen ;)

I didnt god mod all i did was report the wrong thing thru my news system , i lost 10 million in them strikes (which in my opinon where god mod beacuse wat sort of nation can lauch 500 nukes at onnce?)

Any nation.

It just takes time to deploy them all.

I launched 1250 at once.

25 on each of my 50 NLC subs, but that was my whole deployed unit.

Also, you did godmod. You declared you had landed and were on the outskirts of his capital in 5 minutes.

You just said you lost 10 million people to cover it up.

Erm... well...

Saharistan came back as Torontia, his leader is on trail in allendale or something.

We started this a while back, and had a thread going, but FishNube here godmodded and we had to start over an invitation thread for a future RPG that would be closed, and Fish wants to be in it and it anyway.

BTW, I nuked Algeristan in the last thread, it was nuclear war. 1250 missiles from sub based things.

Damn. What was the reason Leaf got involved in a war with Algeristan? I assume it had something to do with the coup in Algeristan that put that new extremist regime in place.

And to think that in the simulation I participated in at the leadership conference I was at, we just narrowly avoided nuclear war with North Korea...

No i was just keeping up with the other nations ;) every1 else was near the capital so i wanted to be ;) but this time i wont god mod ;) but my new chanel might post wrong things but i will post real facts under neath

Im sorry but I dont think Fishcaks has enough experience in RP to join this RP.
Sorry.

Damn. What was the reason Leaf got involved in a war with Algeristan? I assume it had something to do with the coup in Algeristan that put that new extremist regime in place.

And to think that in the simulation I participated in at the leadership conference I was at, we just narrowly avoided nuclear war with North Korea...

Leaf got involved because Algeristan started an Anti-Communist pact. We all prepared for an attack, but Algeristan declared war and started nuking people, I sent in an observation craft. I let the nukes start flying then I parked all 50 nuclear attack subs off his coast and leveled some stuff.

That doesn't count though. The god mod noobs ruined it.

I don't know when the coup took place. I just read one day that it happened.

Hey, at least Global Jihad has a home we can take out again.

Im sorry but I dont think Fishcaks has enough experience in RP to join this RP.
Sorry.

Agreed.

Add my vote to that list too.

Im sorry but I dont think Fishcaks has enough experience in RP to join this RP.
Sorry.
Im going to ignore this and many other comments , beacuse algisten(SP?) said i was in and thats it , i can rp , im just mucking around and in that last one i was bored hence the reason i was invloed

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OK
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Yeh i definatly need to go to bed. And i expect another 20 pages will be added to this thread on my return.
Joy.

u want another 20 pages ok ;)

in other news im biding for a uranuime (SP?;)) mine if i win i will happly supply the uranumie for this war

Let's have someone "adopt teh n00b"!

er ffs can u l0t (n0w 1m just being anoying:D) stop calling me a noob go read the defination iv played this game for ages (on many dif users) and the only thing im confused about is some small aspects of rp
any way this game rocks apart from the "Anti-Noob" group on the forum! :mad:

:P

And btw McKrang or w/e i doubt u have anoth money to out bid me its only a very small one :p 500 billion for a small place?

Typical n00b response.

"Oh, i've been here for years, just as different people."

And btw McKrang or w/e i doubt u have anoth money to out bid me its only a very small one :p 500 billion for a small place?

I can outbid you.

My defense budget is completly untapped due to my odd sales worth about 900 billion USD to level it out, so minus soldier salarys it's completly free.

erm lets see
Milkshak
MilkShak-01
Milkshak-02
and milkshak-03 over the period of the last 1 year and half , and do u know i hate ppl who give noobs a hard time

I can outbid you.

My defense budget is completly untapped due to my odd sales worth about 900 billion USD to level it out, so minus soldier salarys it's completly free.

now that is cheating ;)

erm lets see
Milkshak
MilkShak-01
Milkshak-02
and milkshak-03 over the period of the last 1 year and half , and do u know i hate ppl who give noobs a hard time

Have fun.

Noobs are noobs. And you're a noob. When you stop typing like one i'll stop calling you one.

Algeristan - I formally request you take the fish man off the list.

U cant do that he said im in and so did leafy

read right here

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=430647 ! im a newb not noob and also ur dealing with this situation wrong

U cant do that he said im in and so did leafy

I know that.

I'm requesting they change their minds.

If I refuse to RP with you they will.

heh i dont care u are pethtic i have a vvery gd mind to report u 2 a mod

heh i dont care u are pethtic i have a vvery gd mind to report u 2 a mod

First off, examine the quality of our English. That is our main problem, we are having severe problems reading what you are typing.

Yeah,

It's nothing personal.

But when someone gets rowdy with me and can't type english I get mad. Report away.

Yea i think i should slow down im to use to chat rooms, and about time other people are moaning at me;)
I reported one of ur posts as i thought it was out of order , they will probley ignore any way i will take that as a apolgy and wanna go halfs on that mine ?

First off, examine the quality of our English. That is our main problem, we are having severe problems reading what you are typing.

As I have mentioned before, Fish, this is a forum, not a chat room. You can easily take the time to write out your posts, and, in reality, it really doesn't take the long.

Yea good point. Btw we need to get another 20 pages by tomoro lol.

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Yea good point. Btw we need to get another 20 pages by tomoro lol.

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Trust me man, invest in some typing lessons, not as an attack on you personally, but I type like this in chatrooms.

It might have something to do with iv never been taught to type , i have just learnt my self, same as how i lernt to use a computer

Does anyone here realize how old I am?

Last year (8th grade) was the first time i had any sort of computer class, and if anything it messed my typing up.

How old are you? 8th grade = UK ?
cuz im 13 (Nearly ;))

It might have something to do with iv never been taught to type , i have just learnt my self, same as how i lernt to use a computer

Damn...just google typing lessons, and learn home row. Place your fingers on (left hand from pinky to thumb): A,S,D,F,Space Bar, and for your right hand: ;,L,K,J,Space Bar. Once you learn Home Row, you can develop your own variation. Personally I type with a few fingers above Home Row, because this keyboard was designed to slow us down when typing to prevent damage to the typewriter. :rolleyes: Now that we don't use those, more efficient boards have been designed but this one is already the standard. Derailment!

Anywho, as for a landing, I suggest the port cities, but any inland campaign would be severly hampered.

How old are you? 8th grade = UK ?
cuz im 13 (Nearly ;))

8th grade = first year of GCSEs/Standard grades, I think

I say that we wipe the coast out then drive in. What do you guys say?

(Im getting good at this typing)

How old are you? 8th grade = UK ?
cuz im 13 (Nearly ;))

9th Grade when school starts in about 1 week.

14 last July 26th.

Last year (8th grade) was the first time i had any sort of computer class, and if anything it messed my typing up.

Really? When I first moved to Jersey (when I was in 4th grade, I'm going to be a sophomore next year) we started learning typing skills then and all through that intermediate period... :p

Once we get our troops inland, we'd need lots of air support, because our forces would have no idea where his soldiers could be hiding out in the mountainous areas.

Damn...just google typing lessons, and learn home row. Place your fingers on (left hand from pinky to thumb): A,S,D,F,Space Bar, and for your right hand: ;,L,K,J,Space Bar. Once you learn Home Row, you can develop your own variation. Personally I type with a few fingers above Home Row, because this keyboard was designed to slow us down when typing to prevent damage to the typewriter. :rolleyes: Now that we don't use those, more efficient boards have been designed but this one is already the standard. Derailment!

Anywho, as for a landing, I suggest the port cities, but any inland campaign would be severly hampered.

My home row is a-w-e-f-k-l-;-'

Sometimes I shift 1/2 key to the right though.

I'm weird.

My home row is a-w-e-f-k-l-;-'

Sometimes I shift 1/2 key to the right though.

I'm weird.

my home key is

1234567890-= [BackSpace] [Home]

thats on my laptop
same row on my desktop

Really? When I first moved to Jersey (when I was in 4th grade, I'm going to be a sophomore next year) we started learning typing skills then and all through that intermediate period... :p

Once we get our troops inland, we'd need lots of air support, because our forces would have no idea where his soldiers could be hiding out in the mountainous areas.

Indeed.

We've used computers since 2nd grade, but not heavily until 6th.

We took a state test on World Geography last year and I got a perfect score though, and i think tests on computers are easier, and I could probably take one apart and put it back together so i'm good to go.

Fwah ha ha ha, I will be doing my highers next year (which starts in 9 days *gulp* I've still got maths, Chemistry and English to do...)

I plan on using my Spetsnaz to raid the coast, destroy Costal defenses in the middle of the night type thing. Don't worry, I have been reading up on amphibious Assaults.

my home key is

1234567890-= [BackSpace] [Home]

thats on my laptop
same row on my desktop

You type with your thumbs?

Dude, that's why you've been so fucked up today. :p

Any way back to RP

how about i use some of my urnamieme ;) to blow the front coast off. Or leave that to the nations with some every weapons. Then i propose we send in a few Spec Ops to blow key targets then using around 1000 marines from each nation along with a mecahnized collum drive to the capital and take it. Then we implerment a new goverment and take over the rest of the world.

Fwah ha ha ha, I will be doing my highers next year (which starts in 9 days *gulp* I've still got maths, Chemistry and English to do...)

I plan on using my Spetsnaz to raid the coast, destroy Costal defenses in the middle of the night type thing. Don't worry, I have been reading up on amphibious Assaults.

I don't call SpecOps missions amphibs, myself.

I'll use SpecOps all the way through stage 1, then one day people will notice APC's floating towards sure and ships randomly beaching themselves everywhere.

Uhh... the amphibious part means that they come from the water onto the land...

You type with your thumbs?

Dude, that's why you've been so fucked up today. :p
Why and if you must know i use all my fingers and use my thumb to hit the space bar and the keys just above the space bar if i need to hit Alt Gr or shift i use the side of my thumps

Any way back to RP

how about i use some of my urnamieme ;) to blow the front coast off. Or leave that to the nations with some every weapons. Then i propose we send in a few Spec Ops to blow key targets then using around 1000 marines from each nation along with a mecahnized collum drive to the capital and take it. Then we implerment a new goverment and take over the rest of the world.

War isn't that easy, and we're not nuking the country.

And you have to remember, we're being counter RP'd against during this.

And when I decide to land Marines it won't be a pansy 1000 men thing, it'll be in upwards of 20,000, possibly closer to 30,000.

Indeed.

We've used computers since 2nd grade, but not heavily until 6th.

We took a state test on World Geography last year and I got a perfect score though, and i think tests on computers are easier, and I could probably take one apart and put it back together so i'm good to go.


They are definitely becoming more important in schools, I can see in years to come kids just using them for everything, you know?

Like I did last time, I'm sending in the beachhead force of 2000 men, then reinforcements will arrive later, when the rest of the main nation's forces come.

1000 per nation will be quite a lot with a few tanks, also we will strike at night to make it harde. I will have snipers in the helicopter ready to shoot. I will supply medic's. Also I think when we get inland a bit can we set up a temporary base to run our in land operations from?

They are definitely becoming more important in schools, I can see in years to come kids just using them for everything, you know?

Like I did last time, I'm sending in the beachhead force of 2000 men, then reinforcements will arrive later, when the rest of the main nation's forces come.

Ok exelent idea i think we should all work togher and give each nation specific jobs.

And Laskon two things do you use AIM if so add FishCaks and same with anyone who wants to add me
and secondly I do use computers for everything.


Also if you think my typing is bad you should see my hand writening i got to type my Year 6 SATS beaucse it was so bad.

Uhh... the amphibious part means that they come from the water onto the land...

I know.

When I think amphib i think DDay, not Somalia, though.

D-day landings are one form of amphibious assault, there are many differant types.

I think we should do a Iraq style but from the intel i have recived its a island so i say DDay and a bit of Iraq style (mainly the taking over the goverment)

I say something like operation desert storm... air superioraty and Special Forces raids.

I say something like operation desert storm... air superioraty and Special Forces raids.
Now that is what I am talking about.

Isn't my nation's flag cool?

This slightly different "BUMP" was brought to you by Krendakov

www.this-isnt-a-bump.com


heh my bumps better lets talk more tactics

Okay, What is your plan of attack?

D-day landings are one form of amphibious assault, there are many differant types.

Yes,

I just automatically think DDay.

Meh, Sierra Force will land a few times, but you guys to realize that if you try to fly a helo in you're going to get shot to shit and/or discovered.

erm u go 1st

You guys are blowing this WAY out of porportion.

You don't even know if you'll get to make an amphibious landing and you're already talking about what happens when you make it to the capital!

Also, once you make it to the capital the war isn't over, y'know. Since that's the objective, the government will have already went to secret command bunker type complexes.

In all seriousness, you guys REALLY need more naval assets.

I'll TG you ;)

No need for TG's.

Anything you say here can't be used in the RP.

Just like we can't use the positions marked on that map for strikes.

No need for TG's.

Anything you say here can't be used in the RP.

Just like we can't use the positions marked on that map for strikes.

It might make people rethink their plans, although they don't conciously change their plans, they will change things subconciously.

Is my force not big enough? Keep in mind I spend only slightly more than $8 billion...

D-day-style is the best action to go with IMO

It's pointless because as soon as you IC post it they'll start to do the same thing.

Are you the dude with the amphibious assault ship?

That might be ok, but i'd add a few frigates or something.

See Leafanistans storefront, I recommend the South Sea-class, buy them in bulk.

In all seriousness, you guys REALLY need more naval assets.

They do, but I don't. What do we blow up first? :D

who me yeah i have a marine AAS

D-day-style is the best action to go with IMO

Until we get air superiority that will be impossible.

Unless you like 33% casulties.

Seriously.

Don't put your men in that.

We've got to knock out his SAMs and spread his airforce out before we can even think about an assault like that.

They do, but I don't. What do we blow up first? :D



all military assets then comunication then ecnomic

Until we get air superiority that will be impossible.

Unless you like 33% casulties.

Seriously.

Don't put your men in that.

We've got to knock out his SAMs and spread his airforce out before we can even think about an assault like that.



i know but after that shit is done........

An Ogaswaran Amphib Assault Group, escorted by the King Ghidorah battlegroup is moving in to join the action.

They do, but I don't. What do we blow up first? :D

Dude, while you were gone I had an obsession.

First I bought 100 of these SUPER cool 442 destroyers (over 200 missiles! fuck you, air force!), and I placed an order for 100 Tower Class SSBN's, and since Prae hasn't responded I may still RP with them.

I've got this new obsession with putting a railgun or nuke on everything.

Krendakov Fleet:
1 Kuznetsov class heavy aircraft carring cruiser
4 Sovermennoy class destroyers
1 Ivan Rogov class large landing ship
2 Brandenburg Class Frigates

http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/krendakov.jpg

Is this good?

i know but after that shit is done........

How do you know it WILL be done?

You can just say you're going to win and walk out and do it.

If this is like Saharistan the dude will be smarter and not use nukes, and if he plays it smart we MAY NOT win, we won't lose, but there's a difference.

You're going to lose people trying to land SpecOps there and fly bombers over, not to mention the cost naval assets will take from his coastal artillery.

Krendakov Fleet:
1 Kuznetsov class heavy aircraft carring cruiser
4 Sovermennoy class destroyers
1 Ivan Rogov class large landing ship
2 Brandenburg Class Frigates

http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/krendakov.jpg

Is this good?

Yes, perfect.

Squadrons of QB-2 Blacknights and QB-1 Vampire unmanned bombers are taking off, escorted by F-38 Wyverns and F-40 Falkens. Megafortresses will follow soon.

Even if we just sit back and shoot at eachother with our navies for a few days, a war of attrition is impossible with us attacking his nation directly.

Best way to do it is to have several nations first move in under the cover of bombardment, then have their infantry silence the coastal artillery and keep the rest of the defense occupied while the rest of us move in with our own troops.

25 Gojira class super dreadnoughts escorted by over seventy smaller warships, are enroute, with a classified number of fusion-powered, stealth submarines.

Let the new Jutland begin.

also, the Kuznetsov class carries 12 Su-27s, the Sovermennoys carry a Ka-27 each, and the Ivan Rogov has 4 Ka-27s, 520 Spetsnaz and 25 T-72 Tanks + landing craft.

Best way to do it is to have several nations first move in under the cover of bombardment, then have their infantry silence the coastal artillery and keep the rest of the defense occupied while the rest of us move in with our own troops.

My spetsnaz will do this for as much coastline as possible if it is the wish of our combined forces.

Ok well i will have 1500 men , and 500 Speical Op agents (for various tasks if u think thats a god mod then tell me and i will bring it down) I will provied some fuel to burn (I mean burn to blow) on the beachs and needs be i will carpet bomb / petrol bomb

I'm starting to worry about how good this RP will be.

But when Algeristan starts throwing up defense and your entier landing team is pinned down (which will happen) you'll change.

He's going to be bombarding you right back, you do realize?

25 Gojira class super dreadnoughts escorted by over seventy smaller warships, are enroute, with a classified number of fusion-powered, stealth submarines.

Let the new Jutland begin.

This isn't an RP thread.

That's a godmod anyway.

Thats why air comes 1st?

He'll have AA guns deployed around the coast, so if you want your aircraft to be shot down you can fly sorties against him...

Thats why air comes 1st?

What's that suppose to mean?

Just because you can fight him from the sky doesn't mean anything.

If you open up the RP trying to bomb him you'll lose all your bombers, and an air war won't always be sucessful anyway.

This war will last RL weeks if you guys don't ruin it.

This war will last RL weeks if you guys don't ruin it.
I'll try not to. :P

He'll have AA guns deployed around the coast, so if you want your aircraft to be shot down you can fly sorties against him...

Yeah.

And if he fights remotely like me, and he does, he'll have a few random nests inland just to fuck people up and give them a false sense of security.

I'll try not to. :P

If you want to have fun why don't you introduce a character or something?

I've got a Marine character i'm using that will be at the tip of any land invasion that could be set up.

A character... I do belive I've Rp-ed a Colonel Damoslav previously, I'll use him!

EDIT: I know a Colonel commands a regiment, not a battalion.

Col. Miller, RMMC

Is he just a normal army guy or Special-Forces?

Is he just a normal army guy or Special-Forces?

He is a commander in the 27th Tactical Wing. A Helo Cavalry wing that can function as specops, but it's mainly used as a marine expeditionary unit.

I use to use it ALOT in urban combat, this'll be the first time it could POSSIBLY be used for an amphib.

A perfect opertunity for it to be a joint-op, you wanna do that?

If we ever get a chance I might drop 50 people off somewhere with Blackhawks to see what happens.

We'll see what happens later on.

Oh, well, should I deply some basic army guys in transports to the area?

Depends, i'll just see how the mission is set up, what will benefit and what we have available.

OOC: I'm thinking a massive naval bombardment to soften up coastal defenses, then an equally massive air war to pound installations across the country before committing any of my own men to an attack. That's the plan I've currently come up with in the past few minutes, and it's subject to change.

I'm not even moving any naval assets into the theatre until coastal defenses are down.

The fleet of Cobalts could pound them, but i don't want to lose ships before we make landfall.

:mp5: How do you know it WILL be done?

You can just say you're going to win and walk out and do it.

If this is like Saharistan the dude will be smarter and not use nukes, and if he plays it smart we MAY NOT win, we won't lose, but there's a difference.

You're going to lose people trying to land SpecOps there and fly bombers over, not to mention the cost naval assets will take from his coastal artillery.


OOC: i am not talking form a man-on-the-ground-anything-can-fuck-up stand point

i am looking for the battle-map-assuming-everything-will-go-alright stand point.(like all great plans begin)


dont worry i wont go rambo style on them....i would just get :sniper: :mp5: :sniper: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: that way

I'm not even moving any naval assets into the theatre until coastal defenses are down.

The fleet of Cobalts could pound them, but i don't want to lose ships before we make landfall.



my stelth destryoer can do that as long as i can get a bit of air support

Major.Antonio fornados 122nd marines


Capt.Mikiel Surov,M.R.S. Tauron farragut class stelth destroyer.

Any heavy Bunkers can fall to my Gustavs, it's what they were orginally desgined for. I have a handfull of Iowas but my airforce is lacking greatly.
And I only have a Surface fleet.

bump

when we starting?

we start when alegstin (SP?) starts some RP

as for now im getting IC

Goverment Office, FishCaks
The prime minister walks in.

It apears that we should move our ships

Fishcaks think for a moment.
How can we start the RP when we havent even RPed a background for the war (the reasons).
Therefore you cant just start moving ships now.
God's do we have to RP with this guy?

I was mucking about cuz i have nothing to do while i w8 , apart from post random stuff and anoy ppl over msn

any way i could move my ships , their still in the place where i brought them i need to move em to FishCaks

Ok...we need a reason for this. I've been thinking long standing tensions over some natural resource. Perhaps an island Leafanistan is starting to develop that may or may not be in Algeristani waters. Soon a stand off type situtationand then everything goes to hell. BAM ZOK POW!

Algeristan,

Did you read my big long list of things I wanted from this RP?

Also, do something about the Fish, he'll ruin this RP.

If you don't want to go looking for my big post I'll go repost it.

Or , it could be a iraq style , Alegistan is ruled by a dictator (Wich i think it is) then the coaltion (Us) give him a altamatom (SP?) then if he doesnt give up me move in our army and take over the goveerment and then move to peacekeeping dutys

1) Nuclear weapons. If this RP is going to rely on nuclear weapons and/or threats back and forth for survival count me out.

2) Algeristans Navy. Now, I don't want a full scripted RP before we even start, but a few things should be established. My navy is near to 800 vessels. Mostly cheap, but we have nearly 500 ships I would trust my RL life with. I DOUBT, but don't know, if Algeristans navy is the same. I propose the RP be setteled mainly around trying to get TO the beaches of Algeristan, after the main warfare breaks out. If we, the attackers, promise not to land troops in 30 minutes, will you as the defender conceide that your navy cannot defend against what will become a 2000 ship force?

3) Air wars. I do not mind for a good air war every once in a while. But it's unrealistic for everyone to be able to launch F22's from aircraft carriers and always be within range to launch bombers from ground bases. So bomb runs should be to a minimum. The main airwar should be between ALgeristans forces and whatever the combined attacking navys are able to throw up in the means of missiles and planes.

4) I would love for this RP to be like the one that was above mentioned. Attacking ships have to pull in close enough to launch and get back out as to not be blasted by shore artillery. On top of this, it shouldn't be generally accpeted that you can just fly a helicopter over the enemy defenses and land a battallion of SpecOps. There should be alot of emphasis on the terrain and working with it. I'd like to see Algeristan described as an ISLAND with high walls and a few valleys that run in.

5) No massive naval strikes that destroy entier enemy bases, and no airstrikes that whipe our entier fleets.

6) NO MULTIPLE THEATRES! I don't want to be responsible for defending anyone, I say we stick to one general area. Easier to write "rules" too.

7) Special Forces troops ARE NOT designed to stay in an area for days on end. If someone sends in a 10 man team, I expect them to do their job and call a pickup bird/boat or concied that they've been whiped out or captured by Algeristan.

8) Again, REALLY small fleets. I'm using no more than 10 ships after we make it to off Algeristans coast, if he does it this way.

9) Noobs are easily ignored. If the noobs in this do a good job I won't turn bitchy on them for a mistake or godmod. But I WILL NOT allow them to do ANY of the above. A noob can't just declare his helicopters are magically SAM invisable and allow 30 Special Operations people inside Alegeristan to be free for days.

Or , it could be a iraq style , Alegistan is ruled by a dictator (Wich i think it is) then the coaltion (Us) give him a altamatom (SP?) then if he doesnt give up me move in our army and take over the goveerment and then move to peacekeeping dutys

You talk like you're just writing a story and Algeristan won't be fighting back.

You're saying what you're going to do once a war is over, and we might not even win.

Noob, CALM DOWN.

I totaly agree with the things you just said.

im saying thats wat we should try doing and stop caling a fliping noob

im saying thats wat we should try doing and stop caling a fliping noob

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^ Use it.

But I think we need to delay action on invasion. We need a massive bombardment campaign. Land based arty in mountains are hard as hell to hit.

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^ Use it.

I second that! :P

@Leaf,

We should hold off on an invasion ESPECIALLY is the noob is allowed in. We both know that everything we do something where it's impossible to get to enemy territory and finally land someone shows up and says they are suddenly on the outskirts of the capital and that they war is over.

McKagan, even though you are right, it is still flaming, just relax, andif we just ignore him, he'll either improve his English or go away.

@Leaf,

We should hold off on an invasion ESPECIALLY is the noob is allowed in. We both know that everything we do something where it's impossible to get to enemy territory and finally land someone shows up and says they are suddenly on the outskirts of the capital and that they war is over.

And your complaining about my english. Re-read it , that makes no sence.

Okay, I have been doing a whole lot of shit yesterday and now this thread is 27 pages long.

McKagan:

Who are your refering to when talking about the n00b?

What did he recommend that was n00bish?

Everyone else:

I have been threatened by a very powerful nation that has nothing to do with this thread.

I may have to put off this war as war may be brewing somewhere else.

Fuck, why do my nations always get invaded and why do I never have any allies?

Algeristan']Okay, I have been doing a whole lot of shit yesterday and now this thread is 27 pages long.

McKagan:

Who are your refering to when talking about the n00b?

What did he recommend that was n00bish?

Everyone else:

I have been threatened by a very powerful nation that has nothing to do with this thread.

I may have to put off this war as war may be brewing somewhere else.

Fuck, why do my nations always get invaded and why do I never have any allies?

Probably because you play Mr. Evil. ;) But if you need assistance, a few bribes in the right places and if you claim the moral high ground withotu getting all Islam on me you might get an ally.

1) Nuclear weapons. If this RP is going to rely on nuclear weapons and/or threats back and forth for survival count me out.

Agreed. No one wants another Saharistan War, with the cleanup of the fallout from sixty or more nuclear weapons in one country alone. I doubt many people here even consider how massive that amount is.

2) Algeristans Navy. Now, I don't want a full scripted RP before we even start, but a few things should be established. My navy is near to 800 vessels. Mostly cheap, but we have nearly 500 ships I would trust my RL life with. I DOUBT, but don't know, if Algeristans navy is the same. I propose the RP be setteled mainly around trying to get TO the beaches of Algeristan, after the main warfare breaks out. If we, the attackers, promise not to land troops in 30 minutes, will you as the defender conceide that your navy cannot defend against what will become a 2000 ship force?

I doubt Algeristan's navy will pose much of a threat. I'm not even sure if he has one; I think he might be RPing as though he were similar to a RL landlocked Middle Eastern country, though I don't know for certain.

3) Air wars. I do not mind for a good air war every once in a while. But it's unrealistic for everyone to be able to launch F22's from aircraft carriers and always be within range to launch bombers from ground bases. So bomb runs should be to a minimum. The main airwar should be between ALgeristans forces and whatever the combined attacking navys are able to throw up in the means of missiles and planes.

Air war is the cornerstone of my strategy, and I think I've got bombers with sufficient range to strike Algeristan from Saharistan and Rovonia, if mainland Halberdgardian bases are considered out of range.

4) I would love for this RP to be like the one that was above mentioned. Attacking ships have to pull in close enough to launch and get back out as to not be blasted by shore artillery. On top of this, it shouldn't be generally accpeted that you can just fly a helicopter over the enemy defenses and land a battallion of SpecOps. There should be alot of emphasis on the terrain and working with it. I'd like to see Algeristan described as an ISLAND with high walls and a few valleys that run in.

Again, see my comment for number 2.

5) No massive naval strikes that destroy entier enemy bases, and no airstrikes that whipe our entier fleets.

Agreed.

6) NO MULTIPLE THEATRES! I don't want to be responsible for defending anyone, I say we stick to one general area. Easier to write "rules" too.

Agreed. Multiple theaters suck.

7) Special Forces troops ARE NOT designed to stay in an area for days on end. If someone sends in a 10 man team, I expect them to do their job and call a pickup bird/boat or concied that they've been whiped out or captured by Algeristan.

Assuming the SF team is really good at living off the land and is acting with no native support, I'd say an NS week to 10 NS days is about the max you could have them in the country.

8) Again, REALLY small fleets. I'm using no more than 10 ships after we make it to off Algeristans coast, if he does it this way.

I'll have to disagree with this. I'm sending in a massive fleet for bombardments. Even if the 10-ship limit is for amphibious landings and such, it's still too small. 10 landers alone can't land a sufficient invasion force, and that's not even giving them cover. That limit will have to be upped.

9) Noobs are easily ignored. If the noobs in this do a good job I won't turn bitchy on them for a mistake or godmod. But I WILL NOT allow them to do ANY of the above. A noob can't just declare his helicopters are magically SAM invisable and allow 30 Special Operations people inside Alegeristan to be free for days.

Agreed, GMing sucks. Newbs, if you need help with something, feel free to ask. We'll be much happier if you say, "BTW, is doing this [insert military action of some kind here] OK?" rather than "Our 100,000,000 paratroopers have dropped into the capitol, killing the entire Algeristan government."

Well well, Leafanistan, this is interesting, you for an ally!

Your nation claims to be socialist, although your not very socialist, not in a radical way like pol pot or Chairman Mao. Your system seems to be a mix of North Koreas militaristic society and China's booming corporatist economy.

Is this an accurate picture of your nation?

Algeristan is an ISLAMIC state, with quranic law and Islam as the only legally permitted religion.

But I could be your ally and sign a treaty that allows for me to spread Jihad and Islam onto other nations, with some of them being carved up between us if you want and in return Algeristan will NOT have any ideas of imposing Islam on Leafanistan and we will even help you crush your own terror groups, Red Brigade and that catholic one.

Is that a deal or what.

We could rule the world.

I'm not just saying this to stick with Leafanistan, btw.

But i've been thinking about why the SWC nations don't just ally themselves with Algeristan in the first place.

OOCily I like the dude (always thought it was a dude) that plays Algeristan and all those nations. It's possible to have a goot MT war with him without him complaining. We COULD do some damage to some larger nations on here if we added another big nation to the SWC and forget fighting Al for once.

Seriously, am I crazy?

I'm not just saying this to stick with Leafanistan, btw.

But i've been thinking about why the SWC nations don't just ally themselves with Algeristan in the first place.

OOCily I like the dude (always thought it was a dude) that plays Algeristan and all those nations. It's possible to have a goot MT war with him without him complaining. We COULD do some damage to some larger nations on here if we added another big nation to the SWC and forget fighting Al for once.

Seriously, am I crazy?

OOC: I agree with your OOC sentiments of Algeristan (that is, I don't actually hate the guy playing him :p). However, ICly, to my country Algeristan has this stigma about it that makes us uneasy about the prospect of allying with him. The stigma I'm referring to is their brand of radical Islam that they allow to dictate their actions. We don't like what we see as their hateful and intolerant rhetoric. Plus, they are essentially anti-democracy, another strike against them in the eyes of our government. Basically, we feel that the differences between our governments are irreconcilable. Plus, after being targeted by terrorists, there's no guarantee that Algeristan wouldn't do the same, using our "alliance" to get GJ cells back into our countries and do some serious damage with WMDs.

Since I haven't been on in a few days, can someone give we a quick rundown of this thread?

PS: The Velkyan Union has two CBGs and a RDF dividion sailing alongside the Leafy fleet.

I'm not just saying this to stick with Leafanistan, btw.

But i've been thinking about why the SWC nations don't just ally themselves with Algeristan in the first place.

OOCily I like the dude (always thought it was a dude) that plays Algeristan and all those nations. It's possible to have a goot MT war with him without him complaining. We COULD do some damage to some larger nations on here if we added another big nation to the SWC and forget fighting Al for once.

Seriously, am I crazy?

I've been thinking the same thing. If he could renounce such radical Global Jihad, and perhaps take a lesser stance, we could work out something.

My main problem against allying with hiim is that usually he's off comiting mass genocide or something.

We could still come up with something, IMO.

Besides, he could hit a few backpack nukes, we could land 2000 in his capital.

I've been thinking the same thing. If he could renounce such radical Global Jihad, and perhaps take a lesser stance, we could work out something.

Yay!

I'm not crazy!

I'd still like him to keep GJ around though, simply because if we ever get ran down by a 5 billion population nation he can nuke them. :p

OOC: Here's a thought. The guy running Algeristan said he takes such radical stances ICly not because he believes them IRL, but because he wants to make things more interesting. So, perhaps if he'll agree to refrain from trying to kill us for fun, and instead work with us for our own aims (or hit other people with terrorist attacks), I might be willing to work with him. Something of a reduction of the radicalism wouldn't hurt either.

Does anyone else think it would be fun if we actually HELPED Global Jihad against other nations, just for the heck of it?

Leafy, please answer my questions about your nation's brand of socialism.

Your nation's ideology is very confusing for me, not that Im ignorant of RL marxist though, Im very aware of political ideologies from thrid positionism and fascism to the MANY strands of Marxism and Anarchism to others like primitivism.

Why is Leafanistan socialist when, correct me if Im wrong here, you have a fascist party with a large amount of clout in your senate?

Yes Im a guy, for those of you that asked.

You could all join me in the aim I have for a global Islamic state in NS world and I would NOT impose thise global Islamic state on the SWC nations, Halberdgardia can remian catholic (that is your religion?) and the others can be what religions they are now.

In return once the Islamic state is set up, you can all PROFIT in the riches that we can plunder from the world.

Halberdgardia, I think your nation would benefit if it became a bit more dictatorial and less concerned about 'freedom' and 'human rights' etc...

You could do what you want and plunder whatever you want.

You could use some terror attack as an excuse for your Kir Kanos to become a 'President for Life'.

Algeristan']You could all join me in the aim I have for a global Islamic state in NS world and I would NOT impose thise global Islamic state on the SWC nations, Halberdgardia can remian catholic (that is your religion?) and the others can be what religions they are now.

If I'm included, I'll join with you if the others will....

Become a monarchy.
King Clauro IX can do whatever he wants, and if that means driving Jews into the wastelands, declaring wars on other nations for profits or making everyone in the nation eact chicken only, it happens.

My nation is going to be a Democratic Imperium once I have enough people to change it to that (hey, when is that, btw?), and the people in my nation are fairly free.

My government still gets to do what i wants though, because they semi-control news sources.

You have 74 million people to go. Its fun if you use something like that or something so bizzare it's... well... bizzare.

Not too long, that's like 3 weeks isn't it?

Excellent....

Algeristan']You could all join me in the aim I have for a global Islamic state in NS world and I would NOT impose thise global Islamic state on the SWC nations, Halberdgardia can remian catholic (that is your religion?) and the others can be what religions they are now.

In return once the Islamic state is set up, you can all PROFIT in the riches that we can plunder from the world.

Wait. You say you want to set things up so the whole world, excluding your non-Muslim allies, belongs to Islam. Seems to me that if you somehow succeed in doing this, there's not much stopping you from converting the SWC members too, even against our will.

Halberdgardia, I think your nation would benefit if it became a bit more dictatorial and less concerned about 'freedom' and 'human rights' etc...

You could do what you want and plunder whatever you want.

You could use some terror attack as an excuse for your Kir Kanos to become a 'President for Life'.

Quite possibly. However, I've chosen to run Halberdgardia as I would if it actually existed IRL, and as though I were actually running it, and what you're suggesting goes against my beliefs. I may do a dictatorial puppet one of these days, but for now, I don't want a puppet to worry about.

In my nation the huge Corporations take care of the majority of the people, providing some workers with free healthcare and such.

In return they are funded slightly by the government.

You determine how free the people are, but i'd say they're doing ok.

Hal,

Did you realize what my economy got upgraded to while you were gone?

I PWNED JOO!

Hal,

Did you realize what my economy got upgraded to while you were gone?

I PWNED JOO!

Damn you and your compulsory consumerism... :p

Algeristan']Leafy, please answer my questions about your nation's brand of socialism.

Your nation's ideology is very confusing for me, not that Im ignorant of RL marxist though, Im very aware of political ideologies from thrid positionism and fascism to the MANY strands of Marxism and Anarchism to others like primitivism.

Why is Leafanistan socialist when, correct me if Im wrong here, you have a fascist party with a large amount of clout in your senate?

Yes Im a guy, for those of you that asked.

You could all join me in the aim I have for a global Islamic state in NS world and I would NOT impose thise global Islamic state on the SWC nations, Halberdgardia can remian catholic (that is your religion?) and the others can be what religions they are now.

In return once the Islamic state is set up, you can all PROFIT in the riches that we can plunder from the world.

Halberdgardia, I think your nation would benefit if it became a bit more dictatorial and less concerned about 'freedom' and 'human rights' etc...

You could do what you want and plunder whatever you want.

You could use some terror attack as an excuse for your Kir Kanos to become a 'President for Life'.

Thanks for reminding me. There is a significant power struggle right now going on behind closed doors. High Father, leader of the Republican Senate, and "father" to all of Leafanistan having his power slowly removed by Ministers under the payroll of the "state" owned corporations. So we talk like the Soviet Union, act like China, but in reality it is becoming a failing constitutional monarchy with more and more corporate influnces.

Damn you and your compulsory consumerism... :p

:)

There's not a single nation in the SWC (or ALOT of nationstates) that could compete with me in an economic war. :D

Yesterday a n00b wanted to sell a uranium mine and Fishy bidded 10 million.

I was bored so I bidded 500 billion.

The sad thing is that the dude sold it to Fishy. :confused:

You've all gone mad! First we're all ready to attack him, now we're going to join him?

As "fun" as I suppose it would be, I have no interest in helping to bring about a global Islamic state.

But I do need a straight answer, are we going ahead with this war, or have we all wasted our time here?

If you want to try to "stop" him you can go ahead with a war.

Of course, you may or may not have to defend against a 50+ ship battlegroup.

Has he threatened anyone yet?

BTW, if he has, you have the support of 2 carrier battlegroups and 30,000 ground troops.

:)

There's not a single nation in the SWC (or ALOT of nationstates) that could compete with me in an economic war. :D

Yesterday a n00b wanted to sell a uranium mine and Fishy bidded 10 million.

I was bored so I bidded 500 billion.

The sad thing is that the dude sold it to Fishy. :confused:

See thats a real n00b , i would have sold it to you lets see

500 Billion VS 10 Million erm hard question

Has he threatened anyone yet?

BTW, if he has, you have the support of 2 carrier battlegroups and 30,000 ground troops.

Are you in on this ? also are u on aim atm ?

If you want to try to "stop" him you can go ahead with a war.

Of course, you may or may not have to defend against a 50+ ship battlegroup.

"Stop" what? We haven't even learned what he was planning on doing to instigate this, but now you've all decided to join his side, regardless.

Do what you want, as long as we actually finally do something.

units in theater:



122nd marines(20,000 men,5 bmp-3)


1 faragut stelth frigate the M.R.S. tauron.(740 men,90 tomahawks,120 sams,hidden 12 inch gun.60 harpoons)

53rd Tatical recon unit(special)530 men 12 ruber dingies,3 huey transport/attack helis)

M.R.S. home,Marine mother ship(130 sams,7 vucan anti-missile guns,743
Men,2 hind attack helicopters)



sckratch the Marines,instead (to add something different)i will use my 11th para-assult unit(9000 men),i wont risk them until the navies can take out most of the sams.

ok whats going on now?

ok whats going on now?

OOC: Absolutely nothing.

OOC: Absolutely nothing.
I wish something would...

OOC:i hope the war starts in a couple o days, 4 at the most otherwise i think i will leave.

Well things are getting more hostile between me and a nation called the Armed Republic of The Gay Street Militia

I have now sent him a TG with my navy blockading his nation and giving a demand that his government be removed from office, install a pro-Islamic/Algeristani government and to illegalise homosexuality and kill his gay population.

I nkow he is going to reject these sane reasonable demands, so Im going to invade him when he refuses.

Well can all gang up on his homo infested nation and carve it up between us, enslave his women and kill all his men and all of them are gay!

If the rest of the SWC supports you I will, but i can't make a choice like this by myself.

I'm also not for the mass genocide of homosexuals.

Perhaps we can put them in a correction facility? :p

Im there! Tell me when you set up the thread! We hate homo's in Frozopia, they are driven into the waste lands over here!

McKagan, where is your sense of economics?

Fuck wasting taxpayers money on them, wipe them out!

Damn right! Damn Homo's!

BTW Frozopia:

Are those your nations NS views, on gays, or are they your real life views.

Don't worry, i care not for whatever answer you give.

Nah,

Doing that would mean emptying a nuclear arsonel, and I'm not up for that atm. Plus the international community might not like it.

If you find me a viable reason to go to war with them i'll land 50,000 or so Marines and see what happens.

Reason's?

THEIR GAY!!!!!!

Besiades he was talking in his regions chat section about sending 'observers' to my nation with pro gay 'awarness' programmes.

They claim that its for 'human rights' but its a plot to turn nations gay!

Ok then,

I'll call it "tactical conspiracy to undermine national way of life."

Does that sound ok?

No they aint my RL views. What, you think im a psycho?

Could I get in? I've been character RPing for awhile. This would be my first Nation RP.

Whats psychotic about genocidal homophobia?

well other than the genocidal part....

Im just fucking around, Im not homophobic, far from it!

Being gay myself, well I STRONGLY disagree with homophic conceptions, but I don't think it's a good idea to be too PC and supress their right to spew their ignorant crap out.

I just ignore homophobes, they are not worth a reaction, better things in life to do.

If war breaks out I'll send in a 442 with a few Leafanistani made Tactical nukes (about 10) to act as an observer. If war breaks out we'll hit big targets, so don't worry about a superdreadnaught pounding your citys.

I dont want to turn into another fishy, but AGAIN, would you let me in this? PLEASE?

It'll probably be an open RP anyway.

I would like to join this war, either as your ally or enemy (you choose).

Answer ASAP.

So, when does it start/where has it started.

Um, Algeristan I am waiting for your response for me to participate in this war.

I don't think the SWC (most of the large nations that were going to attack) is going to attack Algeristan.

If the rest of you want to you can, I'm not sure if he wants to right now though. But if he does you'll probably have to put up with fleets of ships from Leafanistan and I.

Well hot damn, I leave for a day and a half and come back to 9 pages (I use 30 posts a page, mind you) more to read.

First, I'd like to finally wrap up all the bitching regarding my Stormtroopers:

Against MT or PMT people, they are only Stormtroopers in appearance. Their E11 carbines and Stormtrooper armor are only as good as the best conventional carbines or armor. Against FT people, they are fully-fledged Stormtroopers straight from the Galactic Empire.


Regarding McKagan's economy:

Damn. I have Powerhouse, and I have the UN nation category Anarchy (w00t!) but still need to get myself up to Frightening. I also need August 11 to roll around so that the mourning period in Tannenmille can end and I can instate Peffe Tannen and have the Family of Tannen running Tannenmille again instead of Rosenthal. I'm going to lessen my military under Peffe's rule and will instead focus on education and civil freedoms. However, I don't think I'm going to ever kill off any other governmental officials besides the Reichsführer every 120 days or so, just to keep things fresh. Rosenthal will always be Großkanzler, Mark Goldfetter will always be the Provinzführer over Saharistan and Deutschefranzösisch Rheinland, etc.


And finally, regarding SWC and Algeristan:

I didn't even realize Algeristan was Saharistan, but I can't see Tannenmille openly being allied with a known extremist nation, even though I am a member (FTly, will not apply for the sake of any MT/PMT war) of the Galactic Empire which is rather extremist.

OOC: Sorry, Algeristan, I'm staying out of this one. No mass murder of gays for me. If you're unjustly attacked, I might defend you, but I won't support you killing off the gays in herds. On the flip side, though, I won't support the opposing nation's efforts to force "pro-gay-awareness" on your regime. I would like to see your regime become a little more tolerant, but being forced to do so is not the way to go.

OOC: Sorry, Algeristan, I'm staying out of this one. No mass murder of gays for me. If you're unjustly attacked, I might defend you, but I won't support you killing off the gays in herds. On the flip side, though, I won't support the opposing nation's efforts to force "pro-gay-awareness" on your regime. I would like to see your regime become a little more tolerant, but being forced to do so is not the way to go.

Second'd. I would even give the gays save haven in Saharistan / DFR if need arises, even though under Aven gay marriage was illegal (well, unrecognized as marriage, civil union was still legal) until he was just a few months from death and he finally legalized it. Just another part of Tannenmille becoming more free and utopian.

Oh, I just remembered some posts regarding taking Secret IC / OOC information in an IC thread and using it as information -- Use the Vigenère or ENIGMA ciphers in IC threads, it's what McKagan, Halberdgardia (?) and I did in the Colorado & Texas thread, even though the other side rather hated it.

I just ignore anyone that takes OOC or SIC stuff and uses it as intel.

OOC: Sorry, Algeristan, I'm staying out of this one. No mass murder of gays for me. If you're unjustly attacked, I might defend you, but I won't support you killing off the gays in herds. On the flip side, though, I won't support the opposing nation's efforts to force "pro-gay-awareness" on your regime. I would like to see your regime become a little more tolerant, but being forced to do so is not the way to go.

Just to make my stance clear:

If the gay people (the nation) makes an open IC statement about trying to convert part of the Algeristani population into homosexuals I will have grounds to help defend Algeristan under the clause of the gay militia trying to destroy a given and majority accepted way of life.

Assuming we land and take control of the nation, the most we could do is set up "cleaning" facilities, where homo's are turned "less gay", which may or may not slightly currupt into a testing group for bio and chem weapons. But for the most part it would just be anti-hormone type weapons and phycological treatments.

No more than 30,000 people would die in the camps.

So... An update on the war this thread is about... My pilots are bored, and my riflemen have cleaned their rifles so many times, their guns are slippery...

An update on this war thread is that I'm getting bored myself and might just fire up Commander Keen, Wolfenstein, or Zero Wing.

If you shove me into an economic bind, I may have reconsiderations.

Just to make my stance clear:

If the gay people (the nation) makes an open IC statement about trying to convert part of the Algeristani population into homosexuals I will have grounds to help defend Algeristan under the clause of the gay militia trying to destroy a given and majority accepted way of life.

Assuming we land and take control of the nation, the most we could do is set up "cleaning" facilities, where homo's are turned "less gay", which may or may not slightly currupt into a testing group for bio and chem weapons. But for the most part it would just be anti-hormone type weapons and phycological treatments.

No more than 30,000 people would die in the camps.

Thats ridiculous, and bordering on stupidity. Gay people don't go around trying to "convert" people, thats idiotic. Even a nation thats population is mainly homosexuals, I doubt they would do something like that.

Just to make this clear, I'm unitarian, which means I'm not going to deal with any crap like that, OOC or IC.

Algeristan said that nation was talking about doing just that on it's regional messageboards.

Just to make this clear, I'm unitarian, which means I'm not going to deal with any crap like that, OOC or IC.

Okay, I'm Trinitarian but just because I am doesn't mean I stand for it regardless of IC or OOC feelings. (For the record, ICly I do care mildly but he's an ally and I won't intervene, OOCly it's an atrocity) I agree that if he OOCly feels that camps like that are right for gays then it's terrible, but ICly my nation doesn't have any state religion and thus can't use that as a reason to intervene (Aven Tannen was a Christian of some denomination, I never got too in depth with the character)

Algeristan said that nation was talking about doing just that on it's regional messageboards.

OOC: I checked, and there's no such message on the region board. See for yourselves.

http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/91499/page=display_region/region=gay

Meh, not my problem really, just going on what Al said.

OOCly I don't feel that way, btw, and if you think I feel that way IRL you're eitehr borderlined metally retarded or just a real jackass.

My position stands, if the nation says something like that i'll defend Algeristan and set up camps (hey, Al wants to just kill them all anyway, maybe i can stop that)

Okay, I'm Trinitarian but just because I am doesn't mean I stand for it regardless of IC or OOC feelings. (For the record, ICly I do care mildly but he's an ally and I won't intervene, OOCly it's an atrocity) I agree that if he OOCly feels that camps like that are right for gays then it's terrible, but ICly my nation doesn't have any state religion and thus can't use that as a reason to intervene (Aven Tannen was a Christian of some denomination, I never got too in depth with the character)

The reason I said IC as well was because my nation has loads of civil rights, and legalized same sex marriage recently. I hardly put anything into religion from my budget, though, so the only reason I would intervene if he actually did that would be in the name of humanitarianism.

Well, Tannenmille is Anarchy (high all freedoms) but we could give less than a damn about the citizens of other nations, because they're outside our constituency. However, once a region comes under the control of Tannenmille, those residents are made concerns of the government.

This is really interesting and stuff, but could we get on with the game? I'm pretty sure that if they don't have something to fight soon, my soldiers are going to turn on my governemt, and then we'll have another revolt, and it'll be a huge mess, and by the way I'm still waiting to see if I can join or not.

No rush, though.

So... Is there al ready a thread on the war? It was supposed to have started today... http://forums.battleforeurope.com/bf1942/images/smiles/icon_hum.gif

Why don't one of you bother reading THIS thread?

There isn't going to be a war unless all the small nations here want to take him on alone against the SWC, it appears.

OK... So, Leafanistan has switched sides? Or is there a diff war going on and this one has been abandoned? I'm lost. :confused:

Algeristan said that he was about to go to war with someone else and the S.W.C. is in OOC talks with Al about becoming allies with him.

Oh. Thank you. That clears it up.