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The Japanese government informs the MEU government that it wishes to reinstate the Antioch Treaty, with the only request that a Japanese naval base be established in the Mediterranean. It is made clear that this is not a requirement but a request. Also the MEU government is informed that Emperor Hirohito personally looks forward to continued good relations.

The Japanese government informs the MEU government that it wishes to reinstate the Antioch Treaty, with the only request that a Japanese naval base be established in the Mediterranean. It is made clear that this is not a requirement but a request. Also the MEU government is informed that Emperor Hirohito personally looks forward to continued good relations.

The MEU government glady accept the Japanese government request to reinstate the Antioch Treaty. Yet the MEU government request to know why the Japan needs a base in the Mediterranean.

OCC: Kordo, we need to talk about that base in Mediterranean, could you get on line on AIM if you can.

The MEU government glady accept the Japanese government request to reinstate the Antioch Treaty. Yet the MEU government request to know why the Japan needs a base in the Mediterranean.

OCC: Kordo, we need to talk about that base in Mediterranean, could you get on line on AIM if you can.

ooc
that information (as to why a base is needed) will need to be provided to me as war moderator as well.

ooc
that information (as to why a base is needed) will need to be provided to me as war moderator as well.

ooc: no longer an issue

IC:

The Japanese Ambassador to the MEU submits this modified version of the Antioch Treaty:

Treaty of Antioch (Modified)

I. An Invasion of the Middle Eastern Union or The Empire of Japan shall be considered an attack and invasion of both nations.
II. Increased trade between the Empire of Nippon and Middle Eastern Union, Primarily Oil for Armaments and Finished Industrial Products
III. This alliance supercedes any previously signed alliance the Empire of Nippon and the Middle Eastern Union has signed
IV. The establishment of an IJN Arabian Sea Squadron with a naval base in Southern Iran, to protect Nipponese and Middle Eastern Sea trade
V. The induction of Turkish naval officers to the Imperial Japanese Naval Academy after having learned Japanese, followed by 2-4 years service in the IJN before returning to the Turkish Navy to spread their experience
VI. the Establishment of a Naval Training center for the Turkish Navy for their Enlisted personnell somewhere near the home port of the Japanese Arabian Squadron
VII. Japan will build two Zero Corps of aircraft paid for by the MEU, and will train MEU pilots to use them.
VIII. Encouragement from both Governments for Private Enterprises to invest in each others nations to further both Nations Economies
IX. This treaty is to last for a duration of 8 years and at that time both nations will be able to consider whether they would like to renew or renegotiate the Above treaty

ooc: no longer an issue

IC:

The Japanese Ambassador to the MEU submits this modified version of the Antioch Treaty:

Treaty of Antioch (Modified)

I. An Invasion of the Middle Eastern Union or The Empire of Japan shall be considered an attack and invasion of both nations.
II. Increased trade between the Empire of Nippon and Middle Eastern Union, Primarily Oil for Armaments and Finished Industrial Products
III. This alliance supercedes any previously signed alliance the Empire of Nippon and the Middle Eastern Union has signed
IV. The establishment of an IJN Arabian Sea Squadron with a naval base in Southern Iran, to protect Nipponese and Middle Eastern Sea trade
V. The induction of Turkish naval officers to the Imperial Japanese Naval Academy after having learned Japanese, followed by 2-4 years service in the IJN before returning to the Turkish Navy to spread their experience
VI. the Establishment of a Naval Training center for the Turkish Navy for their Enlisted personnell somewhere near the home port of the Japanese Arabian Squadron
VII. Japan will build two Zero Corps of aircraft paid for by the MEU, and will train MEU pilots to use them.
VIII. Encouragement from both Governments for Private Enterprises to invest in each others nations to further both Nations Economies
IX. This treaty is to last for a duration of 8 years and at that time both nations will be able to consider whether they would like to renew or renegotiate the Above treaty


The Middle Eastern Union agree with the treaty and sign it into effect just renewed the treaty for another eight years.

The Middle Eastern Union agree with the treaty and sign it into effect just renewed the treaty for another eight years.

Emperor Hirohito is said to be overcome with joy and the news and Japanese officials quietly inquire if Emperor Hirohito may tour the MEU on a soon to be announced world tour.

Emperor Hirohito is said to be overcome with joy and the news and Japanese officials quietly inquire if Emperor Hirohito may tour the MEU on a soon to be announced world tour.
The MEU government welcomes Emperor Hirohito to vist Damascus, and meet with the Prime Minister and President of the MEU. Or if the Emperor wishs, he can go to Istanbul to meet the Sultan.

OOC: The Ottoman Sultan is nothing but a figure head nowsdays, who powers are nonexistent. His Government out of his reach, in Damascus, where the Prime Minister and President make the policy for the MEU.

Emperor Hirohito will be visiting Damascus to meet with Prime Minister and President though he expresses interest in meeting the Sultan if he has time. Incidentally he will be arriving in the fleet that is to take up patroling from the Japanese Naval base in Iran.

When Emperor Hirohito visted Damascus, he was greeted by President Mustafa Kemal and Prime Minister Mustafa İsmet İnönü. He was taken to a tour of Damascus and seen the many sights and old buildings of the City. Then Emperor Hirohito was taken by train to Istanbul to visted Sultan Abdul Mejid II at the Dolmabahçe Palace. Where the Emperor and the Sultan had Turkish Coffee and etc. During this trip the Emperor, he saw the many different peoples that lived in the MEU. By rail, he saw the landscape of the regions of Syria and Turkey.

When Emperor Hirohito visted Damascus, he was greeted by President Mustafa Kemal and Prime Minister Mustafa İsmet İnönü. He was taken to a tour of Damascus and seen the many sights and old buildings of the City. Then Emperor Hirohito was taken by train to Istanbul to visted Sultan Abdul Mejid II at the Dolmabahçe Palace. Where the Emperor and the Sultan had Turkish Coffee and etc. During this trip the Emperor, he saw the many different peoples that lived in the MEU. By rail, he saw the landscape of the regions of Syria and Turkey.

Emperor Hirohito was amazed by the history and the majesty of the landscape, one so different from his homeland. He saw why Japan and MEU had so much in common: in the MEU the desert had forced them to become tough and helped mold their warrior code. In Japan it was internal dessention and foreign domination. He is said to have remarked to one of his advisors that MEU was destined to great things.

List of Important People in the MEU as of Jan.1,1937


1.President Mustafa Kemal( leader of the Republican party and leader of the MEU)(Turk)
2.Prime Minister Mustafa İsmet İnönü(second in command of MEU)(Kurd)
3.Sultan Abdul Mejid II(mainly just a figurehead)(Turk)
4.Deputy Prime Minister Dr. Mohammed Mossadegh(Persian and leader of the Socialist party)
5.Head of the MEU General Staff-Field Marshal Mustafa Fevzi Çakmak(Turk)
6. Grand Vizier Abdullah bin Husayn(Although figurehead post, do the fact he advise the Sultan, he does have a lot of say still in the government)(Arab)
7.Minister of Foregin Affairs-Hashim al-Atasi(Arab)
8.Minister of Middle Eastern Intelligence-Nazim al-Kudsi(Arab)

An overall view of the MEU government and its factions

The Government itself is a base off the Westminster system, expect there is Senate then to a House of Lords, but there is still a Parliament.

The President and the Prime Ministers are the co rulers of the MEU and make the policy for the Union and carried out the policy for MEU.

Sultan is just a figurehead in this system, much like the King of Great Britain around this time period.


Now lets get down to the factions that existed in MEU.

1. The Moderates – the middle of the road type of people. They are lead by President Mustafa Kemel and by right hand man Prime Minister Mustafa İsmet İnönü. They are majority part in the Senate and Parliament; they are a coalition of Republican Party, and Young Turks. Thanks to Kemel leadership, most of the officers in the arm forces are moderates and supporters of Kemel. The moderate’s power base is Turkey, Kurdistan, Greater Syria .Iraq and Iran.

2. The Socialist Parties-the leftist faction of the Parliament. They are lead by Deputy Prime Minister Dr.Mohammed Mossadegh. They are made of up the many socialist parties of the MEU, which are unofficially, back by the Soviet Union. Their power base is in Iran, Turkey and Greater Syria. They often side with the Moderates, so they could get some of their policy pass in Parliament. The Moderates and Socialist have close relationship, but not to close.

3. Pan- Islamist Hardliners- They are the religious hardliners, who are often blame for the Ottoman Empire failed in WW1. Yet they accuse the Moderates and Socialist for moving the nation away from its Islamic roots and they have growing power base in Arabia, Iraq and Iran. Yet there is two factions within the Hardliners, one faction is the Sunni and the other is Shia..


OOC: Greater Syria is made up of present day Syria, Lebanon, Jordan and Israel, its all governed as one region.

Feb 24.1937

MEU times
President Mustafa Kemal has been killed by Pan Islamic Hardliners while he walking to his home in Damascus, he was stab 10 times by the attacker by the time, the police came it was too late. Prime Minister Mustafa İsmet İnönü has been made acting President and Deputy Prime Minister Dr. Mohammed Mossadegh has been made acting Prime Minister. We are getting reports those hard-liners organizing a rebellion in Southern Iraq, Iran, and Arabia. Acting President Mustafa İsmet İnönü as declare a State of Emergency. Also the Office of the Sultan has given its officially support to Acting President Mustafa and support his goals to crush the uprising.

Feb 24.1937

MEU times
President Mustafa Kemal has been killed by Pan Islamic Hardliners while he walking to his home in Damascus, he was stab 10 times by the attacker by the time, the police came it was too late. Prime Minister Mustafa İsmet İnönü has been made acting President and Deputy Prime Minister Dr. Mohammed Mossadegh has been made acting Prime Minister. We are getting reports those hard-liners organizing a rebellion in Southern Iraq, Iran, and Arabia. Acting President Mustafa İsmet İnönü as declare a State of Emergency. Also the Office of the Sultan has given its officially support to Acting President Mustafa and support his goals to crush the uprising.
24 February 1937
The Sovereign People immediately voice their full and unconditional support for the legitimate government of the Middle Eastern Union under President Inonu and Dr. Mossadegh. In Tiflis, the 3rd Alpine and 9th Rifle Corps under Colonel General Wilhelm Keitel are mobilized and placed at the disposal of Damascus, as is the Mediterranean Fleet under Vice Admiral Erich Raeder. Preparations for a full mobilization are made in the event that the situation degenerates further.

OOC: to clear this up before any problems that could arise

Acting President Mustafa İsmet İnönü and Acting Prime Minister Dr. Mohammed Mossadegh are on the same side.

War Reports

Garrisons in Arabia, and Southern Iraq are coming under attack by Rebel raiders and in Iran..High Ranking Shia leaders openly state their support for the rebellion against what they call the pro western leadership.Just causing a rise of unrest in Persia and making the regional garrison very uneasy..

The MEU government sends a public statement

The MEU government does not want any outside troops to station in her lands, during her civil war. We will not allow any foreign powers to set up shop in our lands so speak. This is internal affair not an international one.


OOC: If you want to aid one side, do it not directly, do it indirectly.

the Sultan of Oman, the provisional council in Egypt and the Greek government all express their sympathies on the death of Kemal, and also quietly tell the Turkish government that they had no role in the affair, and will not allow Rebel forces to use their territory against them.

However, in Cyprus, and in western Turkey, the Greek communities (a couple of million people total) are watching the situation with interest. Some Greek Nationalists begin meeting in secret to discuss the idea of a larger Hellene state.

ooc
I have been reading about the Post World War I Turkey and the Cyprus mess... apparently calm is not a trait in this area of the world.

the Sultan of Oman, the provisional council in Egypt and the Greek government all express their sympathies on the death of Kemal, and also quietly tell the Turkish government that they had no role in the affair, and will not allow Rebel forces to use their territory against them.

However, in Cyprus, and in western Turkey, the Greek communities (a couple of million people total) are watching the situation with interest. Some Greek Nationalists begin meeting in secret to discuss the idea of a larger Hellene state.

ooc
I have been reading about the Post World War I Turkey and the Cyprus mess... apparently calm is not a trait in this area of the world.

OOC:Ok that's expected in this part of the world, but I never knew I owned Cyprus..I was under the thinking it was a crown colony of Britian,isn't it or not in this timeline?

OOC:Ok that's expected in this part of the world, but I never knew I owned Cyprus..I was under the thinking it was a crown colony of Britian,isn't it or not in this timeline?

ooc
it is, but there are a lot of Turks in Cyprus

IC
the US quietly informs the MEU government that it is prepared to assist the MEU government, but it is not prepared to allow Soviet forces to enter the Middle East, or Japanese forces. The US will invoke neutrality laws to prevent US territory or citizens from being used to provoke rebellion or support rebellion in the MEU.

ooc
it is, but there are a lot of Turks in Cyprus

IC
the US quietly informs the MEU government that it is prepared to assist the MEU government, but it is not prepared to allow Soviet forces to enter the Middle East, or Japanese forces. The US will invoke neutrality laws to prevent US territory or citizens from being used to provoke rebellion or support rebellion in the MEU.
IC
MEU Government quietly informs the US government, that it has not plans to allow any outside forces to enter the Middle East( in other words no Soviet, no British or Japanese). The MEU Government will accept assist from the US in defeating rebellion as long, its not does led to US troops being station in the Middle East.

ooc: Grand Mother is from Cyprus!!

aka: tag.

The government of Rumania declares it's support for the legitimate government of the MEU, and quietly offers any help that the government will require, including military.

The Rumanian Navy is put to sea, and increases patrols of the Rumanian coast, in case of any mutiny on the MEU's fleet.

The government of Rumania declares it's support for the legitimate government of the MEU, and quietly offers any help that the government will require, including military.

The Rumanian Navy is put to sea, and increases patrols of the Rumanian coast, in case of any mutiny on the MEU's fleet.
MEU Government quietly reply to the Rumanian offer by saying it only wants arms and aid(points) to support the Government war effort against the rebellion.

ooc
it is, but there are a lot of Turks in Cyprus

IC
the US quietly informs the MEU government that it is prepared to assist the MEU government, but it is not prepared to allow Soviet forces to enter the Middle East, or Japanese forces. The US will invoke neutrality laws to prevent US territory or citizens from being used to provoke rebellion or support rebellion in the MEU.


good luck, japan has had a Naval Base in MEU for over 8 years.


This is setting up to be a nice mess.

good luck, japan has had a Naval Base in MEU for over 8 years.


This is setting up to be a nice mess.

ooc
technically at this point Ottoman needs to declare if he is playing the loyalist or rebel side... Clan will play the rebels if he picks the loyalist side, or I play to government.

Yes, I know about the Japanese base

OOC: I am going to play as the Loyalist, yet I open for advise during this civil war.

OOC: I am going to play as the Loyalist, yet I open for advise during this civil war.

Clan, need to know what your plans are, and Ottoman, he needs to know how big the rebel movement is

Clan, need to know what your plans are, and Ottoman, he needs to know how big the rebel movement is
OOC: I am giving Clan a run down on rebels and etc over IM.

OOC: I am giving Clan a run down on rebels and etc over IM.
be sure and TG them to me or post them so I can referee the situation as needed

MEU government sends a request to the Japanese Imperial Government to withdraw their forces in Persia for their own good, in till the Rebellion is over, the MEU ask Japan to keep their forces out of the region for the sake of maintaining stability for the region.

OOC: Ok the Japanese player is out of the town atm and I rather not the be one saying as the Japanese Govt that ok we'll get out of the region, because I am the Japan temp player. But my interest may get mix up in this mess, so I request that mod decide what the Japanese react to the MEU request.

MEU government sends a request to the Japanese Imperial Government to withdraw their forces in Persia for their own good, in till the Rebellion is over, the MEU ask Japan to keep their forces out of the region for the sake of maintaining stability for the region.

OOC: Ok the Japanese player is out of the town atm and I rather not the be one saying as the Japanese Govt that ok we'll get out of the region, because I am the Japan temp player. But my interest may get mix up in this mess, so I request that mod decide what the Japanese react to the MEU request.

they diplomatically stall but confine their personnel to base for the time being and make it clear they will defend themselves if attacked.

Yeah, they'd probably at least demand an agreement of compensation for any damages as a condition of temporary withdrawal.

It's what Clan would do.

Yeah, they'd probably at least demand an agreement of compensation for any damages as a condition of temporary withdrawal.

It's what Clan would do.
If the Japanese do want that type of agreement, the MEU govt will pay the Japanese Compensations for any damages as a condition of temporary withdrawal. In their opinion its worth it to have no outsiders messiing with civil war.

Rebellion in Persia and southern Iraq.
The Shiites begin attacking small units of MEU troops in raids and ambushes, while sabatoge efforts are launched in the oilfields. For the most part the fighting is on a small scale, and the MEU troops have a huge firepower advantage in any prolonged fight.

Quickly though, within a couple of months the MEU finds itself losing the country side and is able to move about only in large company sized convoys and even then suffers sniper attacks.

MEU units find themselves suffering 20% losses a month in casualties, mostly wounded. A few small platoon and squad sized units are even totally destroyed while on patrol.

In Arabia, the Sunni tribes are more circumspect. They stick to sniping for now and a lot of scouting, preparing for more intense action later.

In all, the MEU losses nearly 2,000 killed in action and another 5,000 permanently crippled in the fighting throughout the MEU. More seriously, political control is lost in the countryside in Arabia, Persia, southern Iraq and increasingly signs show that the possibility of similar problems are arising in the Greek and Kurdish parts of Turkey, and in Syria and Palestine.

OOC: Just some notes I have to said

For Iran, there is a strong socialist, moderate movement in the area, which would be equal in size to the Pan Islamic movement, yet they will have their power base in the major cities of Iran and the Pan Islamic Movement will have more support from the rural areas. These Socialist and Moderates will side Government then to allow these Pan Islamic to take over, I guessing these guy could be my cannon folders for Iran at least.

Arabia

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10137013&postcount=245 this post explains what I have done so far, also I guessing that House of Saudi would leading this rebellion in Arabia, so they may have to fight against some pro MEU Arab clans.

Southern Iraq
Is like Iran in terms of the two movements, but the Pan Islamic may out number the loyalist in that region.

Also what kind of terrain am I facing for Iran, Iraq and Arabia? So I know what kind of units would be best to send to those regions.

Rebellion in Persia and southern Iraq.
The Shiites begin attacking small units of MEU troops in raids and ambushes, while sabatoge efforts are launched in the oilfields. For the most part the fighting is on a small scale, and the MEU troops have a huge firepower advantage in any prolonged fight.

Quickly though, within a couple of months the MEU finds itself losing the country side and is able to move about only in large company sized convoys and even then suffers sniper attacks.

MEU units find themselves suffering 20% losses a month in casualties, mostly wounded. A few small platoon and squad sized units are even totally destroyed while on patrol.

In Arabia, the Sunni tribes are more circumspect. They stick to sniping for now and a lot of scouting, preparing for more intense action later.

In all, the MEU losses nearly 2,000 killed in action and another 5,000 permanently crippled in the fighting throughout the MEU. More seriously, political control is lost in the countryside in Arabia, Persia, southern Iraq and increasingly signs show that the possibility of similar problems are arising in the Greek and Kurdish parts of Turkey, and in Syria and Palestine.

In Southern Iraq and Iran, the MEU government organize loyalist people of the region to fight the rebels(mainly the local Socialist or moderate movement) and MEU General Orders their garrisons in the area to organize loyalist militias and take back the countryside.

As for Arabia, the MEU Govt begins to make contact with their loyal Arab tribe clans and ask them to began attacking and do scouting for the MEU and fight against the rebels.

OOC: Y'know, if the Caliph calls for a Holy Jihad, then you're going to get quite alot of support from the Muslims in India. Maybe not the government, but I think quite a few Indians would be willing to become Mujahideen...

OOC: Y'know, if the Caliph calls for a Holy Jihad, then you're going to get quite alot of support from the Muslims in India. Maybe not the government, but I think quite a few Indians would be willing to become Mujahideen...


would these Mujahideen have access to heavier arms, Anti Tank weapons, Mortars, etc? maybe even a light field piece or two(thats what the Rebels really need. Mortars and Anti-Tank Mines and Rockets). I don't think there will be a holy Jihad though. This is a Muslim on Muslim war

would these Mujahideen have access to heavier arms, Anti Tank weapons, Mortars, etc? maybe even a light field piece or two(thats what the Rebels really need. Mortars and Anti-Tank Mines and Rockets). I don't think there will be a holy Jihad though. This is a Muslim on Muslim war

Yeah, Clan made a point, this can't be a Jihad, since Muslims are fighting Muslims, if it was a Muslim vs Communist or British war, then we can call a Jihad, but not in this case.

would these Mujahideen have access to heavier arms, Anti Tank weapons, Mortars, etc? maybe even a light field piece or two(thats what the Rebels really need. Mortars and Anti-Tank Mines and Rockets). I don't think there will be a holy Jihad though. This is a Muslim on Muslim war

Yeah, they prolly would.

Also, the Caliph could say that his enemies are Apostates, since they war against the Caliph, which is tantamount to war on Islam itself (or so he could say).

Yeah, they prolly would.

Also, the Caliph could say that his enemies are Apostates, since they war against the Caliph, which is tantamount to war on Islam itself (or so he could say).
I'll said this...the rebels haven't done anything that could label them Apostates..so not going to happen.

I'll said this...the rebels haven't done anything that could label them Apostates..so not going to happen.

They're warring against the Caliph! The head of Islam! Muslims all over the world are OUTRAGED! If the Caliph won't declare Jihad on the apostates, in their mind, they have no choice but to take matters into their own hands. The old Caliphs wouldn't have hesitated in doing what must be done...

Of course, the old Caliphs also conquered North Africa and a large portion of Europe.

The MEU High Seas Fleet Commands order the entire MEU fleet to leave port and patrolling MEU coastlines.

The main fleet wills patrol the waters around Turkey and Levant. As for Red Sea, a destroyer (10) group and for the Persian Gulf another destroyer (10) group.

France pledges it's support to the country it recently signed a defense pact with. The 12th Mechanized Division, in Turkey for manuvers with the MEU armed forces, is odered to render any assistance the MEU government deems neccessary. French arms begin exporting to the MEU, mostly shipments of divebombers and DW520s.

The 4th and 5th Stuka Wings (from the 1st and 2nd Mobile Army Groups, respectively) are officially disbanded as part of "budget cutbacks" and their planes are "sold" to the Middle Eastern Union (through creative accounting, Soviet aid covers the cost). Their flight crews are placed on "indefinite leave," and, under Aviation Colonel Nurken Abdirov (an ethnic Kazakh), shortly appear as "volunteer aviators" offering their services to the MEU.

Meanwhile, the 12th Rifles, stationed at Irkutsk, are also officially disbanded in the course of an "administrative reorganization of the 10th Military District" and their equipment is also sold in a similar fashion to the MEU shortly thereafter, while many of their "former" officers show up as advisers.

The MEU will also receive 8 production points per turn in excess of Soviet aid already delivered for the year. These points are "lost through poor administrative practices and local corruption."

In addition, France pledges aid next year when Parliament can redraw the budget plan. Until then it offers weapons, planes, and supplys. The French High COmmand is scoured for veterans of what is now known in the FHC as the "Albanian Incident". THey actually entered combat against insurgents and as such have more experience with fighitng them then most. They are then reassinged tothe 12th Mechanized Division as a "temporary command detachment". The 12th Division is currently in Eastern Turkey, awaiting instructions from either FHC or the MEU High Command. Two Battalions of the FFL are ordered onto standby status.

The FS Victory the French Navy's fleet carrier, along with the escort carrier FS Redoubtable, the light cruisers FS Kirov and Libertie, a nd a destroyer escort, are ordered into the Eastern Mediterrian to provide support for the 12th Mechanized Division and assist the MEU Navy if neccessary. A travel advisory is posted warning French citizen that the MEU may not be the safest area to travel in.

ooc
a few notes

Terrain in the countryside of Arabia is one of the harshest deserts in the world. In southern Iraq, considerable swamp and marsh exists, lots of cultivated ground, and numerous villages along the Tigris / Euphrates, and desert elsewhere. In Persia, considerable desert, a lot of mountains (the Zagros is one of the chains), and in the mountains at upper elevations some trees. Persia is essentially Afghanistan writ large, although not has high in altitude so the winters aren't as harsh.

In all these areas control of the water is the strategic key, particularly the wells.

In western Turkey and Syria, its mostly dry but not desert, kind of like southern France or the California coastline. Just enough rain along with irrigation for substantial farming and livestock to be raised, and significant numbers of villages as well as cities. Same with Palestine. East of the Jordan River the desert begins in Jordan.

In other words, airpower will be highly useful in most areas, but considerable amounts of infantry will be needed to hold ground once its secured.

In the city of Tehran, on market day, a small number of young men sneak into town equipped with automatic weapons taken from a government patrol that was wiped out. They also have homemade grenades.

They enter several movie houses and begin spraying the crowd with automatic weapons fire and throwing the grenades and then hold the buildings until police and army troops arrive and are all killed in the resulting fire fight.

Terrorism something not seen since the Assassin movement was wiped out by the Mongols in the 13th Century returnes to the Middle East.

So are these guys following in the tradition of the Assassins or are they just a bunch of dicks who wanna kill stuff?

Parthini']So are these guys following in the tradition of the Assassins or are they just a bunch of dicks who wanna kill stuff?

ooc
you wouldn't necessarily know that now would you.

By the way, the Shiites don't recognize the Caliph. That is why they are Shiites as it has to do with who was the last direct successor of Mohammed, and the Sunni's recognize the one whose descendent was killed by the Mongols in the 13th Century, while the Shiites recognize another, who has no real authority outside of Shiite areas. The last Caliph was the last Ottoman ruler, and that position hasn't really been clarified by Ottoman Khaif.

I assume somebody was kept around but I don't know where he is, or even if he was kept around.

In the city of Tehran, on market day, a small number of young men sneak into town equipped with automatic weapons taken from a government patrol that was wiped out. They also have homemade grenades.

They enter several movie houses and begin spraying the crowd with automatic weapons fire and throwing the grenades and then hold the buildings until police and army troops arrive and are all killed in the resulting fire fight.

Terrorism something not seen since the Assassin movement was wiped out by the Mongols in the 13th Century returnes to the Middle East.
The Union issues a statement denouncing the inhuman barbarity of deliberately murdering noncombatants.

Pssh. Can we send spies to figure that out?

The murders in Tehran also reach the American Press and are condemned just as thoroughly, as they are by the US State Department. However, a number of columnists notice that Persia is where the Assassin movement was the strongest during the Middle Ages and comment on that.

The price of oil increases somewhat as oil production in Persia and Iraq is affected. Oil companies begin looking at other places to drill.

British civilians in the MEU are immediately advised to leave by the Foreign and Commonwealth office and British diplomatic staff are placed on alert for any possible danger and advised not to leave their embassy areas. All British forces and garrisons injoint controlled North Yemen are withdrawn to the main garrsion at Hedeida and they are bolstered with troops from British East Africa. The servicemen are ordered to remain confined to the base, the British flag is prominently displayed as much as possible, stockpiles of food and ammunition are made and the Navy maintains a presence off the coast with two light cruisers, half a dozen destroyers and several smaller vessels keeping watch offshore. The garrisons at Suez and Aden are alerted ti the possible threat and are put on alert with increased Naval activity around both areas. The Suez Canal has security stepped up, particularly on the East bank and patrols for potential illegal immigrants or other security threats are increased.

Britain quietly lets the US know that it has their support in the matter but that it will not hesitate to move if British or Commonwealth lives are in danger.

Economic problems
The Rebellion costs the MEU 1/4 of its production in 1937. In addition, 1/3 of the money spent on Social Services is wasted or lost. Among the targets of the Rebellion are school teachers and other minor government officials, especially those who are the most 'Western'. They are hated most of all by the reactionaries.

OOC:The MEU keep the Caliph post and its being held by the Osmanli family. The Sultan(aka Caliph) is in Istanbul. Under heavy guard of the MEU arm forces. I have Abdul Mejid II of Osmanli family as Sultan and Caliph, he is supporting the Government on this matter in the civil war.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdul_Mejid_II

IC: Prime Minister Dr. Mohammed Mossadegh sends orders to the local commander of Terhan, to arrest anyone connect to the attack and interrogation them for information. The Prime Minister sends out orders to all regional commanders and police chiefs still loyal to the Government to arrest anyone suspects of helping or supporting the rebellion.

Ok, just curious, since most of the "westernisms" come from north or at least northwest, shouldn't the Middle Easterners be more worried about those damned "northerners"? Especially considering the US isn't very prominent there.

Parthini']Ok, just curious, since most of the "westernisms" come from north or at least northwest, shouldn't the Middle Easterners be more worried about those damned "northerners"? Especially considering the US isn't very prominent there.
its called westernism..anything from Europe, mainly from Western Europe is westernism.

Parthini']Ok, just curious, since most of the "westernisms" come from north or at least northwest, shouldn't the Middle Easterners be more worried about those damned "northerners"? Especially considering the US isn't very prominent there.

"Western" is convienent termanology, and what Kemel was trying to bring to Turkey historically.

Oh, I knew that. I was just thinking about how in this timeline, the MEU seems to be leaning more to the Eastern European style. Just a technicality.

The Ottoman Times (1900 rp)

Today, Sultan Abd-ul-Hamid II has order a new set of refroms for the Ottoman Khailfah…they are the following goals to be competed by 1920.
Here are the edicts of reform

1. All regions of the empire will be connect by a massive railroad network, also the a telegraph network will be set up.
2. The Empire will remain not enter any major wars for 20 years.
3. All people of the empire will be treated equally.
4. The Army will be enlarging from 100,000 troops to 250,000, and the navy will buy the latest ships to improve itself.
5. The region of Bulgaria is here by reunited Rumelia, just ending the autonomous province of Bulgaria.
6. The Ottoman Empire will not stand for any rebellions against Ottoman rule in any of the provinces.
7. The program of mass building up of industies.
8. The Ottoman Empire will be inviteding outside investerments to help the empire to impove itself.

Wow, you are playing the Ottoman Empire, very impressed... I am half Turkish myself, are you Turkish or do u speak Turkish???
Just interested

Caliph Abdul Mejid II has got on a train to Mecca, under heavy guard. He reaches the holy city, and sends out plead to the rebels for peace and ask them to negotiate for what they want. In his plea, he tells the rebels that government is willing to listen to their demands and try to work out a deal for peace.

Wow, you are playing the Ottoman Empire, very impressed... I am half Turkish myself, are you Turkish or do u speak Turkish???
Just interested


OOC: Yes, I am half Turk and semi speak Turkish. This is close rp, open to only members of the rp, go to our main thead if you want to join.

The Emir would like to send his condolences on your loss and would like to inform you of our support against those who shamelessly disgrace the field of honour with disgraceful and cowardly acts.

You should know that you have our utmost respect for not allowing forign troops to enter your soil.


We understand that you require aid and we would like to offer the following:

The loan of a suitable amount of supplies and financial aid (3 points) at the begining of next year, the year 1938. which their cost can be paid back at no interest whatsoever at a time no later than the year 1945,

The Emir would like to send his condolences on your loss and would like to inform you of our support against those who shamelessly disgrace the field of honour with disgraceful and cowardly acts.

You should know that you have our utmost respect for not allowing forign troops to enter your soil.

We understand that you require aid and we would like to offer the following:

The loan of a suitable amount of supplies and financial aid (3 points) at the begining of next year, the year 1938. which their cost can be paid back at no interest whatsoever at a time no later than the year 1945.

ooc
you wouldn't necessarily know that now would you.

By the way, the Shiites don't recognize the Caliph. That is why they are Shiites as it has to do with who was the last direct successor of Mohammed, and the Sunni's recognize the one whose descendent was killed by the Mongols in the 13th Century, while the Shiites recognize another, who has no real authority outside of Shiite areas. The last Caliph was the last Ottoman ruler, and that position hasn't really been clarified by Ottoman Khaif.

I assume somebody was kept around but I don't know where he is, or even if he was kept around.


WHOA WHOA WHOA, I never mentioned anything about attacking civilians GB. At the moment the movement is against the government. This ain't the 1980's yet. I may factor it into my plan later, but I DO NOT want that right now.

GB check your TG's

I think a player's orders would probably take precedence in this case - while it's true that once you start recruiting phanatickal nutzos (e.g., Khomeini, Mao, et al.), they're not necessarily easy to control, nevertheless if the WarMod or HistMod are going play a card like that the player who's nominally in charge deserves to know that beforehand. I would therefore recommend (without formally requiring compliance, however) that the incident should be edited to reflect that.

I think a player's orders would probably take precedence in this case - while it's true that once you start recruiting phanatickal nutzos (e.g., Khomeini, Mao, et al.), they're not necessarily easy to control, nevertheless if the WarMod or HistMod are going play a card like that the player who's nominally in charge deserves to know that beforehand. I would therefore recommend (without formally requiring compliance, however) that the incident should be edited to reflect that.

From the perspective of the Shiites and the Hanarabi Sunnis, the West is evil, and that includes the Socialists. Movie theaters are sinful, and events posted reflect actual events that date back to the Iraqi Rebellion in the 1920s, and the 1979 Iranian Revolution and many many incidents since that time. These people would not give a damn about what the outside world thinks and as far as they are concerned, they are punishing non believers and sinners. This particular revolution should absolutely reflect this very important factor and reality. In addition, command and control of the Rebels should initially be very weak. Discipline and control will come after some attrition.

This isn't a war about political power from the Rebel perspective, but an absolute crusade to cleanse their land of evil. Keep this in mind.

From the perspective of the Shiites and the Hanarabi Sunnis, the West is evil, and that includes the Socialists. Movie theaters are sinful, and events posted reflect actual events that date back to the Iraqi Rebellion in the 1920s, and the 1979 Iranian Revolution and many many incidents since that time. These people would not give a damn about what the outside world thinks and as far as they are concerned, they are punishing non believers and sinners. This particular revolution should absolutely reflect this very important factor and reality. In addition, command and control of the Rebels should initially be very weak. Discipline and control will come after some attrition.

This isn't a war about political power from the Rebel perspective, but an absolute crusade to cleanse their land of evil. Keep this in mind.
I'm not disputing that (well, actually, it is a tad early for that sort of thing, remember that guys like Sayyid Qutb and Ruhollah Khomeini didn't start going totally bughouse fundie till the 'Fifties). I'm saying, though, that the player running the movement deserves to be told in advance of what kind of conditions are being unleashed. Before they're unleashed.

MEU General Staff Command order the two Soviet bomber wings and Soviet Inf unit to join MEU forces in Southern Iraq, and they will be support by Mech Inf unit in Basra. They are order to attack rebel bases and strongholds in Southern Iraq, they are order to hit the rebellion in the area hard.

For Arabia, the MEU General Staff sends out orders for MEU Cavalry station in Riyadh, to began raiding known rebel bases in Nejd.

Turkey, the MEU General Staff order their only Alpine unit to be send to MEU Persia and take part in attacking rebel bases in the Mountain areas of the Persia.

Also the MEU main fleet leaves port and begins to patrol to waters around Turkey and Levant. Also 10 destroyers lead by a light cruiser is send to the red sea to patrol waters near MEU Arabia and another 10 destroyers lead by a light cruiser to patrol the Persian Gulf.

Awaiting Reply

Edit: This is Abbassia

Lordain = Abbassia

The Emir would like to send his condolences on your loss and would like to inform you of our support against those who shamelessly disgrace the field of honour with disgraceful and cowardly acts.

You should know that you have our utmost respect for not allowing forign troops to enter your soil.

We understand that you require aid and we would like to offer the following:

The loan of a suitable amount of supplies and financial aid (3 points) at the begining of next year, the year 1938. which their cost can be paid back at no interest whatsoever at a time no later than the year 1945.
The MEU Government accept Algeria aid. We shall never forget our brothers help in our time of need.

The Japanese Ambassador offers his whole support for the legitamete government of the MEU and offers aid, both military and financial to the MEU.

Japan will currently maintain its base in the MEU but will restrict its personel to the base. Plans to send a carrier fleet to the naval base are put on hold though Japan readies the fleet in case shit hits the fan around the Japanese naval base and it becomes neccessary to evacuate the people stationed their.

At the request of the MEU governement, the French military is preparing the 2nd Mechanized Corp for deployment to the MEU to help put down the rebellion. The 1st Reserve Fighter Wing is also being prepped for deployment, along with elements of the 2nd Dive Bomber Wing. They are expected to be ready by June-July of 1938.

The US government offers substantial (ooc 2 points worth) of humanitarian aid to the government of the MEU.

The US government offers substantial (ooc 2 points worth) of humanitarian aid to the government of the MEU.
MEU Government accepts the US government humanitarian aid in good faith and thanks the USA for helping our nation in our time of need.

The 2nd Mechanized Corps, along with the 1st Reserve Fighter Wing and 2nd Bomber Wing have departed France by rail, en route to the MEU.

Military attachés in both Damascus and Washington will inform the relevant officials that the Union has no intention of escalating its commitment of personnel to the counter-insurgency in the MEU – in fact, exactly the opposite. Air strikes will be conducted against rebel-held targets at Karbala and An-Nasiriyah due to domestic political pressures, and that is where President Kirov wants the Union’s involvement to end, to the point of "advising" Union citizens operating in the MEU to withdraw (i.e., pull out our troops) and let the Peoples of the Middle East sort out their fate.

The Union will not negotiate on this, however.

The Federated States of India offer to raise a Corp of volunteers to aid the MEU government. However, the M.E.U. government will need to pay the costs

Axis Treaty (Alliance between MEU and India)
1.Both nations will come to each other’s aide during times of war.
2. Both nations will invest in each other.
3.Both states shall not declare war on each other.

Sign into effect by July of 1939

Axis Treaty (Alliance between MEU and India)
1.Both nations will come to each other’s aide during times of war.
2. Both nations will invest in each other.
3.Both states shall not declare war on each other.

Sign into effect by July of 1939

The Indian Parliament has voted (501 for, 197 against, 2 abstaining) in favor of this treaty.