The Ottoman Times (1900 rp)
Ottoman Khaif
16-07-2005, 18:04
The Ottoman Times (1900 rp)
Today, Sultan Abd-ul-Hamid II has order a new set of refroms for the Ottoman Khailfah…they are the following goals to be competed by 1920.
Here are the edicts of reform
1. All regions of the empire will be connect by a massive railroad network, also the a telegraph network will be set up.
2. The Empire will remain not enter any major wars for 20 years.
3. All people of the empire will be treated equally.
4. The Army will be enlarging from 100,000 troops to 250,000, and the navy will buy the latest ships to improve itself.
5. The region of Bulgaria is here by reunited Rumelia, just ending the autonomous province of Bulgaria.
6. The Ottoman Empire will not stand for any rebellions against Ottoman rule in any of the provinces.
7. The program of mass building up of industies.
8. The Ottoman Empire will be inviteding outside investerments to help the empire to impove itself.
Lesser Ribena
16-07-2005, 18:31
OOC: have you de-autonomised Bulgaria already?
If so i'll update the territory listings
Ottoman Khaif
16-07-2005, 18:36
OOC: have you de-autonomised Bulgaria already?
If so i'll update the territory listings
OOC:Yes I have
Vas Pokhoronim
16-07-2005, 20:13
To His Serene Excellency, Halil Rifat Pasha, Grand Vizier to the Sublime Porte,
Peace Be With You.
I am writing to inform you that His Imperial Majesty's Government objects most strongly to the Sultan-Khan's recent suppression of Christian and Slavic autonomy in the lands of Macedonia and Bulgaria. I implore you to remonstrate with your Sovereign to reconsider these measures, or the consequences to relations between our two states are likely to be dire.
With respect,
Vladimir Nikolaevich Lamzdorf, Minister of Foreign Affairs
Troop Dispositions
The Black Sea Fleet has been placed on alert, as have the 7th and 8th Army Corps at Odessa, and the 1st Caucasus Corps, 2nd Caucasus Corps, and 3rd Caucasus Corps at Tiflis. No movements have yet occurred, and hopefully will not prove necessary.
Ottoman Khaif
16-07-2005, 20:24
From: Grand Vizier Halil Rifat Pasha
To:Vladimir Nikolaevich Lamzdorf, Minister of Foreign Affairs
Dear Sir,
We not suppressing the peoples of Macedonia and Bulgaria, which are regions in the Ottoman Empire. We just taking care of minor rebellion in the regions. Yet item of interest of came up with our firing these rebels...they are using Russian made weapons and found a few pounds of Russian gold with them. Could your Tsar please explain why are we finding Russian items along the rebels. Explain to us, dear sir!
Sign
Grand Vizier Halil Rifat Pasha
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In the Regions that Boarder the Russian Empire, the 7th and 3th armies were put on stand by and were order to attack Russians , they cross the boarder regions. Also the Ottoman Black Seas Fleet was pull on stand by. There was no movement in on the Ottoman side...yet they were waiting for the Russians to make their move.
Ottoman Khaif
17-07-2005, 01:13
Jan.4 1901 Ottoman Times
The Ottoman forces are still fighting against the growing theat of Russian Back rebels. In other new the four new steel mills have been competed in the Asia Minor regions of the empire, just giving jobs to the local people and helping the empire build up its assets. Also factories are being build in many areas of Asia Minor and Middle Eastern regions of the empire. These factories will help the empire build itself up and hold against outside forces that wish to destory the empire.
Also in other new, Ottoman Army have began to recuit mass numbers of Arabs and Kurds to officer programs in order to get more officers from these two groups to show unity in the army for the Middle East regions of the emprie.
[NS]Parthini
17-07-2005, 02:19
Fellow Believer and strong ally: The Shah and the Persian people agree that both Russia and the Ottomans should seek peace rather than war. We would be happy to host peace talks between the two empires in Tehran, should you wish it.
Vas Pokhoronim
17-07-2005, 04:13
To His Serene Excellency, Halil Rifat Pasha, Grand Vizier to the Sublime Porte,
Peace Be With You.
Russian weapons in Macedonia are easy enough to explain - presumably they came from Russia. The cause of Macedonian independence is an extremely popular one in our country, and doubtlessly some Pan-Slav industrialist or princeling had them smuggled in. In the absence of an extradition treaty between our empires, I'm afraid there's little I can do beyond condemning the act as irresponsible and inflammatory - if and when I find a culprit.
But it seems to me, Your Serene Excellency, that this whole situation is getting quite out of hand. Why should we find our policies towards one another driven by the most extreme elements of our venerable civilizations? Is not one of the virtues of autocracy the principle of benevolent despotism, the recognition that only strong authority can foster enlightened governance, when democracy must inevitably degrade itself by pandering to the basest instincts of an ignorant rabble?
The truth of this is self-evident.
So it occurs to me that there must be some way out of these perilous straits in which we presently find ourselves. Some way to preserve peace simultaneously with the honor of both Russian and Turk, and in the best interests of the Sultan-Khan's subjects. Perhaps a limited form of self-rule under Turkish suzerainty, a sort of federation could be offered to the Macedonian people. One which might guarantee the rights of both Christian and Muslim, and which would yet bring honor to the Sublime Porte [OoC: Lamzdorf is of course aware of the terms of the ceasefire agreements currently under discussion, but you won't catch him admitting it].
I will accept the Shah's offer to host peace talks between the various interests involved in this dispute. Obviously, Macedonians and Bulgarians of both Faiths should be represented at the proposed conference, as well. I hope I may soon receive your assent.
With great respect,
Vladimir Nikolaevich Lamzdorf, Minister of Foreign Affairs
Troop Dispositions
The Black Sea Fleet, 7th and 8th Army Corps at Odessa, and 1st, 2nd, and 3rd Caucasus Corps at Tiflis all remain on alert. They have made no movements toward the borders, however.
Ottoman Khaif
17-07-2005, 05:49
To:Vladimir Nikolaevich Lamzdorf, Minister of Foreign Affairs
Dear Sir, the Ottomans government has already work out terms for ceasefire with the rebels. Intill we can work out something...the war for now as ended. We do not need outside help on this matter. We'll hand it by ourselfs, as it is the right for nationstate to handle her own affairs without other powers trying to stick hands in our affairs. We thanks our allies of Persia for the offer, we must decline on it. As a sign of good faith between our nations. The Sultan will order his troops to stand down if only you do the same. In the hopes of maintaining peace in the region.
sign
Grand Vizier Halil Rifat Pasha
Vas Pokhoronim
17-07-2005, 08:34
To His Serene Excellency, Halil Rifat Pasha, Grand Vizier to the Sublime Porte,
Peace Be With You.
It is good to see that the humane character of the Sultan-Khan and his religion has prevailed in this matter. We hope that solutions to all further questions pertaining to the Macedonian people may be similarly peaceable and satisfactory.
With great respect,
Vladimir Nikolaevich Lamzdorf, Minister of Foreign Affairs
Troop Dispositions
The Black Sea Fleet, 7th and 8th Army Corps at Odessa, and 1st, 2nd, and 3rd Caucasus Corps at Tiflis are stood down to peacetime status.
Ottoman Khaif
17-07-2005, 20:36
Mar.12 1901 Ottoman Times
The Ottoman Government has manger to quell the rebellion in the Balkans regions of the emprie. Peace has return the empire. In other news the about 60 percent of rail network is nearly compete in Asia Minor and in the Middle Eastern Regions. As for the Balkans areas it is about 40 percent compete.
Independent Macedonia
18-07-2005, 07:32
March 21 1901,
Letter from the limited-Government of Macedonia:
We, the people and government of Macedonia, under your domain, wish that you would grant us better powers to defend ourselves with. The rising force of Serbians in our land, and the Serbians outside are starting to put pressure on the people, and we would like to have the force to defend everyone, including the Serbs. To prevent actions, against what some people in the land would consider an occupation force, we would like to take our defence upon ourselves. This will also help the great Ottoman Empire conserve manpower and supplies which might be better used in other areas, such as the garrions in Bulgaria or the Greek border.
This is not to be a military force to strike out against you, or to strike down citizens in our own land, but as a protective force for all people that reside in the lands of Macedonia.
We await your answer with unending patience,
Alexandre Veliki, leader of the limited-government of Macedonia
Vas Pokhoronim
18-07-2005, 15:18
To His Serene Excellency, Halil Rifat Pasha, Grand Vizier to the Sublime Porte,
Peace Be With You.
We have recently learned that your government is seeking German investment in the transportation sector, and German help in developing and modernizing the Ottoman military.
I will be blunt, sir, if I may.
In light of the recent tensions between our Powers this feels like a betrayal. Relations between Sankt-Peterburg and Istambul were improving, and had you come to us with your inquiries it might have opened the door to the possibility of an enduring and unprecedented friendship between Turk and Russian.
And yet, once we stood down our forces, you turned for assistance to the greatest menace that Russia presently faces. Whatever your intentions, sir, this looks as if your hostility to Russia is implacable, and as if your desire for peace is frankly nothing more than a maneuver to outflank us.
I hope I am wrong about this.
With respect,
Vladimir Nikolaevich Lamzdorf, Minister of Foreign Affairs
Ottoman Khaif
19-07-2005, 03:39
To:Vladimir Nikolaevich Lamzdorf, Minister of Foreign Affairs
Dear Sir, you are jumping to conclusions on this issue. Ottoman-German relations had alway been better then to relations with Russians. You must understand this it would have made petty choice for us to go the Germans then to you. To do our past relations with your nation. Do not over react such choices.
Grand Vizier Küçük Mehmed Said Pasha
Ottoman Khaif
19-07-2005, 03:43
To:Alexandre Veliki, leader of the limited-government of Macedonia
We are willing to allow you a self defense force up to 20,000 men. Under these following terms you must accept before we give you a self defense force.
1. Your forces will not rebel against the Ottoman Goverment or attack any of buildings or personal in the area.
2. Your forces will not aid Invasion forces ,your forces must join us in the defense of the land.
These are our terms for your defense forces.
Ottoman Khaif
19-07-2005, 05:13
June 14 ,1901
Ottoman Times
Persia has break ties with the Ottoman Empire. Sultan Abd-ul-Hamid II has reported to be have said " Its their loss." In other news the Ottoman Goverment is starting to build up its defenses against the Russian Empire, Serb, Greeks and now the Persians. The Ottoman Government has order massive defense work projects to began building up the defense of regions near these empires. Also the Ottoman Government has build 16 new factories in each of the following areas Damascus,Mosul and in Baghdad. These factories will be use to produce goods for the empire and produces arms and need supplies for the regional armies. In other news the about 75 percent of rail network is nearly compete in Asia Minor and in the Middle Eastern Regions. As for the Balkans areas it is about 58 percent compete.
Independent Macedonia
19-07-2005, 06:35
Very well, we will accept the terms. We will make sure that all troops are not affiliated with the former rebel forces in anyway. This brings up one question, how should we equip our forces? Lacking independence we cannot interact with foriegn governments under you very nose, so we would like to request funds to purchase weapons, or weapons to be supplied.
Alexandre Veliki, Governmental leader.
Ottoman Khaif
20-07-2005, 02:28
To:Alexandre Veliki, Governmental leader.
Dear Sir, we will give your regional the arms its need. All your arms will be supply by us. Free of change, think of this as a gift to your region. We supply you with the rifles and other arms your defense forces needed.
Ottoman Khaif
22-07-2005, 05:00
Ottoman Times
Jan.1 ,1903(or 02)
Ottomans forces have began a compete pull out of the Balkans regions of Bulgaria, Albania, Northern Greece and Macedonia. By order of Sultan Abd-ul-Hamid II, all these lands will be given compete independent from the empire. (OOC: note I am still holding the lands in the Balkans that the rl Turkey as today.) With the pull from the Balkans regions. The Ottoman Army has began building up defense work in Iraq and Syria. Also in the Palestine and Hejaz, Ottoman forces have began showing up the defense of the regions from outside attack. In other news the railroad network for the middle eastern regions is now compete. Also the Sultan has order the army to increase its size to 300,000 troops in the hopes of impoving the defenses of the empire.
To:The British Government
From: Ottoman Government
Topic Land
The Ottoman Goverment is willing to give your nation the regions of Libya in return for allaince or NAP between our nations.We await your answer.
OOC: Notes
Northern Greece has been give to Greece.
Secondly, your all wondering why I just pull out of the Balkans..why because it would be much more better for the down size my empire to make it easy to defend.
Vas Pokhoronim
22-07-2005, 18:04
28 August 1902 [OoC: The "actual" date right now is August '02, I'll post a calendar in the Main Thread today, so people don't get confused]
In light of the Turkish withdrawal from the Slavic regions of the Balkans, Russia's critical interests in the have been effectively achieved, unilaterally, by the generosity and wisdom of the Sublime Porte.
Because of this, Russia offers the following treaty for your consideration:
1 - Indefinite Non-aggression, with at least six months' notice for withdrawal
2 - Shared use of the Black Sea, and unrestricted access through the Dardanelles
3 - Recognition of Russia's interests in the Slavic states of the Balkans
4 - Russia's guarantee of present Turkish borders (basically, I'll keep the Macedonians, Bulgarians, Persians, et al. in line, by force if necessary)
If these are not preferential enough to the Ottoman Empire, we are willing to consider reasonable modifications or additional provisions.
We look forward to hearing your response soon.
S.Yu. Witte, Premier
Ottoman Khaif
23-07-2005, 03:29
30 August 1902
1 - Indefinite Non-aggression, with at least six months' notice for withdrawal(agreed)
2 - Shared use of the Black Sea, and unrestricted access through the Dardanelles( We agree to this in theory, yet we request that any major movenment of Russian Warships thought dardanelles, your nation must give us at least two weeks notice.)
3 - Recognition of Russia's interests in the Slavic states of the Balkans(agree, and Russia must recognition Ottoman interest in for the Muslims in the Balkans)
4 - Russia's guarantee of present Turkish borders (basically, I'll keep the Macedonians, Bulgarians, Persians, et al. in line, by force if necessary)-Agreed
5- We ask that Russia returns the region of Kars back to the Ottoman Empire as its rightful owns.
Vas Pokhoronim
23-07-2005, 04:17
30 August 1902
1 - Indefinite Non-aggression, with at least six months' notice for withdrawal(agreed)
2 - Shared use of the Black Sea, and unrestricted access through the Dardanelles( We agree to this in theory, yet we request that any major movenment of Russian Warships thought dardanelles, your nation must give us at least two weeks notice.)
3 - Recognition of Russia's interests in the Slavic states of the Balkans(agree, and Russia must recognition Ottoman interest in for the Muslims in the Balkans)
4 - Russia's guarantee of present Turkish borders (basically, I'll keep the Macedonians, Bulgarians, Persians, et al. in line, by force if necessary)-Agreed
5- We ask that Russia returns the region of Kars back to the Ottoman Empire as its rightful owns.
All terms and modifications proposed are both reasonable and acceptable. Peace in the Black Sea and freedom for the Slavs are more important to Sankt-Peterburg than the sliver of Kars. Notice for fleet movement is equally reasonable, and it is perfectly sensible and fair that the Muslims of the Balkans should an advocate in Constantinople, as Christians do in Sankt-Peterburg.
Za Mir! (To Peace!)
-S. Yu. Witte
OoC: We can assume it's just ratified. The Tsar will be unhappy about the cession of territory, but the gains in the Balkans offset that considerably. Witte continues to cling to his prestige and power for another year . . .
Ottoman Khaif
26-07-2005, 05:46
bump for veiws.
Vas Pokhoronim
27-07-2005, 00:40
In accordance with the provisions of our recent peace treaty, this is to inform you that the battleships Iowa, Kearsarge, Kentucky, cruisers Denver, Des Moines, and Chattannooga, and 35 torpedo boats, all the late property of the United States of America, will be passing through the Dardanelles on 18 April 1903, bound for Odessa.
- Rear Admiral Pavel Andreev
Ottoman Khaif
27-07-2005, 02:10
In accordance with the provisions of our recent peace treaty, this is to inform you that the battleships Iowa, Kearsarge, Kentucky, cruisers Denver, Des Moines, and Chattannooga, and 35 torpedo boats, all the late property of the United States of America, will be passing through the Dardanelles on 18 April 1903, bound for Odessa.
- Rear Admiral Pavel Andreev
We thank the Russian Navy for honoring the treaty, we have in place. Go ahead and send your ships thought the dardanelles, We thank your nation for the notice.
yours
Ottoman Government
Ottoman Khaif
27-07-2005, 04:56
Ottoman Times
May 11 ,1903
Sultan Abd-ul-Hamid II has order the entire Ottoman Army to began massive war games in the effort of impoving the army in combat training. In other news the Sultan has order a massive build up of Troops in Hejaz,to protect the railroad in the region from raiders. Also the factries are now pop up thoughtout the empire, as the part of the Sultan plan to build up the industries of the land is underway. Now the Sultan plans to give more effort in impoving the schooling system of the empire in the hopes of growing new minds that will lead the empire in the future.
Kirstiriera
27-07-2005, 22:34
1st June 1903- Sofia's Eastern Palace
From: HRH Crown Princess Catherine of Bulgaria
To: Ottoman Government and defenders of the Faith
My father King Ferdinand is not here at the moment because he took a trip to Capri... he was coronated as the new King of Bulgaria on the 3rd of March at the Eastern Palace in Sofia. I had your governor for Eastern Rumelia sent back to Constantiople with several offerings of devotion that could be sent to various other nations (Austria-Hungary, France, United States, United Kingdom, Russia, Germany, Greece, etc.) if so desired. Hopefully everything will go well for everyone involved.
-HRH Crown Princess Catherine.
[NS]Parthini
30-07-2005, 22:45
From: Chief of General Staff Alfred Graf von Schlieffen
To: Sultan Abd-ul-Hamid II
I would like to inform your majesty, that the Kaiser has informed me that certain devices have been granted to your country for the development of an Army that is suitable for a country of your greatness. A contingent of Officers and Non-Commisioned officers have been sent to Constantinople to train the Empire in the ways of Prussian discipline. Also, plans for construction of 2 new naval construction centers have been manifested. Lastly, an undisclosed amount of guns have been developed for use by the Ottoman Army. We hope that these new gifts will create a stronger bond between us and a stronger army for your glorious Empire.
Sincerely,
Alfred Graf von Schlieffen
Ottoman Khaif
30-07-2005, 23:04
To: Chief of General Staff Alfred Graf von Schlieffen
From: Sultan Abd-ul-Hamid II
We thank your nation for giving us these gifts. The officers that you have sent would help our nations arm forces to become greatly and more powerful in time. As the for two new naval construction centers , they will soon be pumping out Ottoman Ships..once again we thank your nation support and thanks again for the weapons.
sign
Sultan Abd-ul-Hamid II
Fluffywuffy
31-07-2005, 19:29
To: The Ottoman Government
From: King Vittorio Emanuele III
Italy will give the Ottoman Empire one month to remove the last of its troops from Tripolitania. However, we have begun landing our own troops in the province around Tripoli. Our troops are under strict orders not to interfere with your withdraw, although they have begun the process of establishing Italian control.
We have begun collaborating with the Senussi in the wastes of this province. Their leader, Sidi Muhammad Idris al-Mahdi al-Senussi, has been appointed Emir of Cyrenaica and controls the eastern wastes. We ask that your troops not interfere with him during your withdrawl, as there could be severe consequences.
Finally, Italy will not sign a non-aggression pact without negotiations concerning Constantinople. Our Roman fore-fathers founded that city, and there are many here in Italy who would love to return that city to Italian rule. It is my opinion that if that is to happen, it be decided at a table with pen and paper rather than by the rifle. We understand the Sublime Porte would be saddened at the loss of that city, but its possession continually exposes the Ottoman Empire to risk in the European power games, and ceding it would remove this great risk. The Greeks want it. The Russians want it. As the Ottoman Empire is short in naval power, it may be difficult to continually hold it. Italy, however, has a fairly large navy and will not have great difficulty in holding the city.
Ottoman Khaif
31-07-2005, 19:42
To: King Vittorio Emanuele III
From:Sultan Abd-ul-Hamid II
Sir, the Ottoman Empire will never hand over the our seat of government and our crown city of Constantinople to anyone. Secondly do not think the Ottoman Navy is nothing compare to your "fleet". We have many naval defenses in Dardanelles area. To pervent any attack on our city. Third, we take the thought of even asking for the city a major insult to our empire.
Ottoman Khaif
31-07-2005, 19:54
Fluffywuffy: connact me on msn, here is my MSN ottomanempire01@hotmail.com
Fluffywuffy
31-07-2005, 19:58
To:Sultan Abd-ul-Hamid II
From: King Vittorio Emanuele III
Constantinople is not the seat of your crown. It is the seat of your occupation of what is rightfully Italy's. Our fore-fathers, the Romans, founded that city and it is our every intention to reclaim it. And not only that, it is our destiny to reforge the Empire that was once ruled from Italy. Your state stands in our way. Mark my words: Italy shall have Constantinople, one way or another.
EDIT: Will contact you, hold on....
Ottoman Khaif
31-07-2005, 20:01
To: King Vittorio Emanuele III
From:Sultan Abd-ul-Hamid II
Mark my words, it will never happen!
Ottoman Khaif
31-07-2005, 20:17
Ottoman Times
Dec,10 1903
By order of Sultan Abd-ul-Hamid II, the Ottoman Arm forces will be upgrading the defense of the Dardanelles region to pervent any outside fleet from attacking the seat of Government. Also Sultan Abd-ul-Hamid II has order the Officially name change for Constantinople to Istanbul , the local term for the city.
In the Dardanelles regions, massive programs were under their way. New Forts will being build , that were design to hold bigger and better anti ship Artillery cores. Also public projects of railroad that was competed just three months ago will be useful for the regional forces to get the supplies for defense...The Ottomans were gearing up for war against anyone who wanted Istanbul.
[NS]Parthini
01-08-2005, 02:36
Official German Statement
The German Empire and Kaiser Wilhelm II have hereby decided that the Kingdom of Italy has no claims to the city of Istanbul, once called Constantinople. The German Empire insists that if Italy should make their "claims" manifest through force of arms, that Italy shall, even though we are bound by Alliance, feel the might of Prussian Discipline and will regret their choices for decades to come.
Therefore, the General Staff has offered additional support to the Ottoman Empire through land-based battery guns and several crusiers and destroyers to build up their navy.
Germany feels that the Ottoman Empire has held that city for over 400 years and that her claim to that city is secured.
Fluffywuffy
01-08-2005, 03:23
Official Italian Statement
We welcome this German statement, and wish to see what other redefinitions of the word "ally" Germany proposes.
Vas Pokhoronim
01-08-2005, 07:05
With regard to the disposition of Constantinople, the Second Rome shall not be restored to the First, as long as the Third still stands. Italian "claims" on Slavic and Muslim lands in the East will not be countenanced by His Imperial Majesty, and the Italian king is hereby advised by the Sovereign Emperor to retract his bellicose rhetoric and withdraw these absurd pretensions to rule over peoples and territories to which his house has never possessed the claim. Further agitation by Italy in this region, whether diplomatic or otherwise, will henceforth be taken as an aggressive action directed against Russian power, which will respond accordingly.
Military Dispositions
The Black Sea Squadron is moving from Odessa to Varna, in Bulgaria, and its commander has received instructions to liaise with the Turkish Admiralty to explore the possibility of commencing joint maneuvers.
Ottoman Khaif
06-08-2005, 22:19
Nov. 12,1904
Ottoman Times
Sultan Abd-ul-Hamid II has order the 4th and 7th army corps (60,000 in total)to began to the conquest of Najd(central Arabia) in order to crush the raiders of the Saudi once and for all. Also this given the empire compete contral over the Arabia Centeral Regions. The Sultan has send a warning to the Sultan of Najd to step down peaceful and hand over the region to Ottoman rule or face the might of the Ottoman Arm forces.
Ottoman Khaif
07-08-2005, 20:03
Dec.14,1904
Ottoman Times
Battle report
The 4th and 7th army corps has began their march in Nejd from Al Hijaz, they will go and crush the Sultan of Nejd and annex in the name of Khaif Abd-ul-Hamid II, we are getting report that our forces are being to fight the Sultan of Nejd force near Ha'il, after one week of fighting, our force crush the weak Saudi Sultan army at the Ha'll. Yet have lost about 800 soldiers so far in the fighting against the Saudis, our force have reported that they will reach Riyadh within a few weeks after crushing what's left of the Saudi Sultan forces. The 4th and 7th army cores are mainly made up of Turks and Arab fighting side by side for the Ottoman Empire..more is to come in the next newpaper update.
[NS]Parthini
07-08-2005, 21:31
OOC: I said I would help earlier. But, you know, there isn't that much oil in Venezuela ;)
IC:Official German Statement
The German Empire has graciously decided that our friends, the Ottomans, should recieve help from the mighty German Empire. So far, only a single Regiment, the 1st Brigade of the 3rd Army Corps led by Colonel Manfred von Reichmann, famed of his exploits in Venezuela, has been sent. They are expected to arrive in Alexandretta on the 20th of Novemeber, and are to be put under command of the Ottoman General. More troops are expected to arrive by the end of next year to help occupy.
Ottoman Khaif
09-08-2005, 02:44
Jan.14,1905
Ottoman Times
Ottoman forces with the aid of German troops have taken Riyadh after two weeks of heavy fighting against the Nejd forces. It will take another two weeks before our nation will complete contral over the region. The total death has rise to 1800 soldiers death from fighting and other causes.
Ottoman Khaif
10-08-2005, 17:44
Feb.10,1905
Ottoman Times
Battle report
Ottoman forces have crush the House of Saudi ,once and for all. The Ottoman Empire now rules Nejd. The Sultan as order massive public works projects to build up newly added region. Also the The 7th Army core will be remaining in the region to protect the new public works projects from being attack and to crush any remaining rebel fighters.
New Dornalia
10-08-2005, 18:21
To: Ottoman Government
From: Emperor Gejong
Greetings from Korea. As you may or may not know, Korea is entering a new age of modernization. As such, we are trying to make contact with other nations. We would like to inquire, as such, if a trade pact is possible with the Ottoman Government.
Ottoman Khaif
10-08-2005, 18:47
To: Emperor Gejong
From: Ottoman Government
Emperor Gejong, the Ottoman Government is most interested in your offer of having trade pact, we agree that our two nations should have trade pacts between eachother.
New Dornalia
10-08-2005, 18:54
To: Emperor Gejong
From: Ottoman Government
Emperor Gejong, the Ottoman Government is most interested in your offer of having trade pact, we agree that our two nations should have trade pacts between eachother.
To: Ottoman Government
From: Emperor Gejong
Would some of your Ottoman companies like to invest in Korea? We would be happy to lower tariffs for your companies to invest in our land. In exchange, we would like to invest in your country, some of our native steel and resource concerns would like to invest abroad.
Ottoman Khaif
10-08-2005, 20:13
Feb.18,1905
Ottoman Times
Sultan Abd-ul-Hamid II has made a landmark move, he has restore the restore the 1876 constitution and order parliamentary elections for all the regions of the empire. Also the Sultan has order for 400,000 men to be draft to the army in the coming war against the foes of the empire.
[NS]Parthini
10-08-2005, 20:26
Official German Statement
As Turko-German relations become closer, German plans to ship 500,000 Mauser 98s, and 1000 155mm pieces to the Ottoman Army. Also, the second Battalion that was promised will renevous with the Ottoman Army in Iraq, while the first Battalion will begin holding the Arab territories.
[NS]Parthini
11-08-2005, 00:33
From Chancellor Bulow
To Sultan Abd-ul-Hamid III
We are currently working on pacification of the Moroccan country. However, as opinion is largely against Western occupation, I feel that the sooner Istanbul takes over, the better it will be for Berlin. If needed, transport ships can be sent from Syracuse.
Ottoman Khaif
11-08-2005, 00:40
To:Chancellor Bulow
Form:Sultan Abd-ul-Hamid III
My friend, I cannot send a force to Moroccan nation.Do to the fact my forces are getting ready to invade Persia, I need very unit that I have to be in the Persian War. Try to hold on to Moroccan nation a little longer.
Philanchez
11-08-2005, 00:48
From King Alfonso XIII
To Sultan Abd-ul-Hamid III
We warn you against any actions towards the Morroccan people or you will suffer the same fate of the Germans if they do not withdraw.
[NS]Parthini
11-08-2005, 00:48
From Chancellor Bulow
To Sultan Abd-ul-Hamid III
Perhaps a formal announcement of Ottoman Control over Morocco, with Germany occupying in its stead is in order?
Ottoman Khaif
11-08-2005, 00:54
To:Chancellor Bulow
Form:Sultan Abd-ul-Hamid III
Dear Sir,
Morocco is far for my forces to maintain a supply line and hold off growing theat to my nation. It is best for my nation to hold on annexing Morocco intill we are done with Persia conquest.
Ottoman Khaif
11-08-2005, 01:22
Ottoman Times
Mar.15,1905
A massive build of troops are being reports in Eastern Kurdistan,Turkey, and Iraq, near the frontier with Persia. The numbers of troops has been reported to around 400,000 troops(around 100,000 are part of the standing army and others are drafted). They make the 10th army core to the new made 11-18th army cores, which will march the banner of the empire into the east...when will this happen, we will see soon..
[NS]Parthini
11-08-2005, 01:37
Official German Statement
The German Empire, to assist its friends, sends an additional 2 brigades to join the other one that are to move to Persia. The three brigades that headed to Morocco are now located in Syracuse Naval Base, and an additional brigade is headed to join the 3 other brigades in Venezuela.
[NS]Parthini
11-08-2005, 02:44
Germany also plans to build an additional 5 German-Styled Universities. Prussian War Colleges are planned for Istanbul and Damascus, while Science Colleges are planned for Baghdad and Jerusalem. A general College is planned for Riyadh. Classes will be taught in native language, however, German will be a required course at all of them.
Ottoman Khaif
12-08-2005, 04:44
Ottoman Times
Aug.15,1905
After months of planning the Ottoman forces have began their march on Persia. The 10th-12th army cores have began full out attack on Tabriz, also the 13-15th army cores have began their attack on Hamadan. 16th-18th army cores have a full out attack on Ahvaz, the latest reports are showing that the Persians are not giving up, they are fighting back. Yet they are taking heavy looses from our better train troops. It will be only a matter of time before Persia falls to us. Do the fact Persia is in a state of civil war between the Rebels and the loyalist, this has made the conquest of Persia much more easy, and the fact they have no Shah means no leader to rally around.Persia in due time will become apart of the Empire.
The Death Toll so far for the Ottoman Forces
20,000 death and claiming after each battle.
Ottoman Khaif
13-08-2005, 04:41
Ottoman Times
Oct.20,1905
War report
The 10th-12th army cores have take Tabriz after heavy fighting, they have now march to Karaj just outside of Tehran, the reports so far are saying their meeting large numbers of Persian Troops, yet they are breaking thought the Persian lines and beginging the battle for Tehran.13-15th army cores taken Hamadan and now have march to Isfahan, they are fighting a bitter battle to take the city, more reports are to come.16th-18th army cores have take Ahvaz and have marched to Shiraz, where they are meeting the large numbers of Persian Troops,the figthing is getting more bloody as the days past.
Death Toll as of now 60,000 death and rising
Ottoman Khaif
13-08-2005, 19:54
Ottoman Times
Nov.28,1905
War report
The 10th-12th army cores has taken Tehran and Qoms, they now marching on Mashhad and are crushing anything that lays in their patch to conquer the last major Persian outpost in the North, Glory to the 10th-12th Army cores!13-15th army cores have taken Isfahan,and also have taken Yazd after heavy fighting, they are now marching to Kerman and are busy crushing what remains of the Persian army in the area. 16th-18th army cores has manger to take Shiraz after heavy fighting, they are now marching to Bandar-E-Abbas in the hopes of capturing the key port city.
Death toll so far
90,000 death and rising
Vas Pokhoronim
13-08-2005, 21:29
OoC: Since I'm having my own war right now, it's hard for me to review yours. Also, it'd be a conflict of interest, since I'd just say, "Persia collapses! Quick, send your forces over against Austria!" So Galveston Bay or Sharina would be better there.
I was wondering, however, if I could "borrow" your fleet, or at least some ships, for joint operations against the Italians in the Mediterranean. They're starting to bring Spanish troops over, and I'd just as soon show them the unwisdom of that policy by sinking them en route, if possible. Sine you're using mostly land forces against Persia, I wouldn't think it would be a problem. You could even retain command if you have the attention to spare.
Let me know.
I've also got some Mercenaries coming up to Montenegro from South Africa. I hope you have no objections to them crossing Turkish territory overland, since the sea passage isn't exactly advisable.
Thanks.
Salaam.
Ottoman Khaif
14-08-2005, 00:31
OOC: as the saying goes nothing is for free, I have a fee of 200 gold bars that must be paid for Mercenaries being tranported to thought my lands, and plus the Ottomans are eatting up their funds for funding a war against Persia, so we are going to change for anything. As for using my fleet, go ahead...I need most of my old fleet to be destory, so that I could build up a new and better one.
Galveston Bay
14-08-2005, 05:24
ooc
Actually, I think the Russians are asking for bases most of all, and some naval assistance. If that happens, expect a war at sea in the Aegean Sea and Eastern Mediterranean
Ottoman Khaif
14-08-2005, 05:44
OOC: I would allow the Russians to use my bases in return for some money...funding a war and emprie is not cheap..
Ottoman Khaif
14-08-2005, 19:58
Ottoman Times
Dec.30,1905
Headlines
Ottomans competely conquer Persia
Today is a great day for the Ottoman Empire, we have conquer Persia. The Sultan and General Staff have order about 100,000 troops to remain in Persia to garrion the region and crush the remaining the Persian Rebels. The Sultan has order massive public works projects such as building railroads, factory and etc to began work in Persia to build up the region for the use of the empire. Also the empire will began to build up the region oil wells. The Sultan has also order 200,000 troops to be to send to Syria and Turkey to build up the defense of these regions. These 200,000 troops come from the recent war with Persia , they veterans and well train. The Ottoman Government reports that it has loss about 100,000 troops in the war.
Vas Pokhoronim
15-08-2005, 05:07
Holy Russia sends her congratulations to the Sublime Porte, and also her notice of the publication this day of an Edict of Religious Toleration throughout the lands of the Russian Empire. A new day now dawns for all the Peoples of the East.
[NS]Parthini
15-08-2005, 05:13
Germany congratulates the Sublime Porte in its conquests and announces that it is sending an additional 2 divisions to Istanbul to begin assisting the Porte in the occupation of Persia. Additionally, 3 BB1, and several cruisers are expected to begin patrolling the Aegean and Adriatic for Pirates, as reports are arriving of attacks on Germany's allies.
Kirstiriera
15-08-2005, 10:31
January 3, 1906 - Varna Harbour, Varna, Bulgaria
From: Defence Ministry of Bulgaria
To: The Government of the Sublime Porte...
Obviously, things are not well with the navy at the moment with the Russia and Austria conflict and with the instability of the region... Things have gotten disasterous with almost weekly displays of displeasure with the government and not your people at all... If we get involved Rumania will not be far behind in their declaration to pass the point of no return. Everyone in the Ottoman Empire should be scared of a war between Russia and Austria... we know this will not have a good end...
Kirstiriera
17-08-2005, 05:02
April 1, 1906
To: Sultan Abd-ul-Hamid III of the Ottoman Empire
From: King Ferdinand I of Bulgaria
My daughter, Crown Princess Catherine, announced our declaration of war against Austria-Hungary's empire on the 27th of the last month and will soon join our Romanian, Serbian, Macedonian and other bretheren in this great war...
Well, we need to figure out how we should declare our independence from your government when we are ready (which may take a few more years) in a peaceful and beneficial way to both of us as nations...as well as annexing Eastern Rumelia if possible which your policies of 1900 have unwittingly done.
Ottoman Khaif
17-08-2005, 05:08
OOC:Kirstiriera, my bad I should have told you about this when I did like two weeks ago. I already give you independence and Eastern Rumelia was given to you. Yet I keep all the lands that Turkey has today in Europe. And its Sultan Abd-ul-Hamid II not the III, sorry my bad no not telling you that little fact...
Ottoman Khaif
21-08-2005, 21:56
Dec.4, 1907
Sultan Abd-ul-Hamid II has order that no more Jewish immigrants other nations will be allow to enter the Ottoman Empire. The existing Jewish Immigrants in the Empire, may stay as long as they don't rebel against Ottoman Rule. The Ottoman Government has pass a act banning any more Jewish immigrants from entering Ottoman Land and for any Jew that rebel against the empire, they will be deport and ban from coming back. In other news the Ottoman Navy will be rebuilding itself after this war with the help of our German allies.
Ottoman Khaif
22-08-2005, 22:09
Jan.8,1908
Ottoman Times
With rumors of Arab rebellion in the Arabian regions of the empire. The Sultan had order another 100,000 troops to be send the regions of the Middle East, to show up support for regional garrions and to protect key railroads and other public works projects. With the election results in the Pan Islamist party have won a large amount of seats in the Ottoman Government. They sear they would not these Arab nationlist from breaking apart the Khailfah of the Ottomans. A good amount of the party members are arabs who openly support the Government.
In other news the Public Works Projects in Persia have began and the key railroads and other key public works will be compete by 1912 at the latest. Also the Sultan has order the General Staff to build up the defenses on the remaining Greek Islands, by sitting up mines fields and other defenses on the key Islands.
Ottoman Khaif
23-08-2005, 00:03
Feb.1,1908
Ottoman Times
With the crushing defeat at Libya and growing rebellion in the Middle Eastern regions, 100,000 men have been draft into the Army cores to make a number of new Army cores. These new Army cores are order to be send the Middle Eastern Regions and aid the existing forces in the region to crush the rebellion. The Sultan has manger to get 20,000 Kurdish tribemen to join the Ottoman Cause, and now being send via railroad to support Ottoman units in crushing the rebellion. Ottoman troops have found weapons that are from France and the USA, it looks like that the Americans and French are working to destory the Empire. But we not sure of this, our forces are butally crushing these rebellions and restoring order to our regions.
Ottoman Khaif
24-08-2005, 03:12
March.18,1908
(Note this is not a newpaper more of a reveiw of the Ottoman Empire as of now)
Rumors are going around the officer cores that a mass munity against the Sultan Pan Islamic pro war government, do the fact that they costing the empire many lives and ships.If they lose one more battle, they will munity against the Government.
The arm factories in Asia Minor were overworked, they couldn't kept up with the needs of the emprie, they are were trying their best to produce arms and other badly needed supplies.
As the Regions of the empire, the growing Arab, Persians and rumors of the theat of Jewish rebellions were already taking a total on the troops of the empire. They were force to fight at home and away, the General Staff realize they couldn't get enough troops from Turkey itself, they are calling Persians, Arabs, Kurds to fill the ranks.
The State funds, was nearly gone with the war eating everybit of the state funds. It look like the empire may go bankupt if doesn't get any loads.
Australia would be more than happy to provide some loans in return for a thirty percent stake in oilfields under your control.
Ottoman Khaif
24-08-2005, 03:30
OOC:Alt Aus- if you still a dominion of the British Empire, therefore you already have a share in the oil, I think...do you have AIM or MSN?
OOC: AIM-vhayek18
MSN-vhayek18@hotmail.com
Ottoman Khaif
28-08-2005, 17:50
Nov 20, 1908
Ottoman Times
As a sign of goodwill, the Sultan has order all units expect the ones in Syria and TransJordan to began standing down. The Sultan has order the General Staff to downsize the army core to peacetime levels, which is about 250,000 troops in the standing army. Also the Ottoman General Staff has began reforms to the arm forces in the hopes of rebuilding the officer cores and navy officer cores. The Sultan has stated by the year 1914, the Ottoman Navy will be rebuild to its pre war size. Also with fears that French may attack again, the Sultan has began moving more troops in Syria, since that is the only key region with a good railroad network. The Sultan has order General Kemal to build up the trench defense systems as fast as he can do it.
In other new the Ottoman public works projects in Persia, are nearly compete. The railroad lines will be competed by 1910 at the least. Also a new rail line from Mosul-Baghdad-Basrah rail lines will be build a link to Riyadh to Mecca, Median and Jiddah, It will be competed by 1912 at the least. A new rail line under the works to connect Damascus to Mecca, this new line will by pass the old one in TransJordan region. The Ottoman Government will began building new schools to teach the people to read and write in Arabic, Persian, and Ottoman Turkish, the three offically languages of the empire. Another key item the coal mines in Asia Minor are about once again export coal to the world, since the war is over. The Ottoman Navy and Marine Core have got the permission of the Sultan to build a massive naval base in Smyrna, which will be the new head base for the Ottoman Fleet. Also the Ottoman Government has began giving grants of funds to local regional companies build more factories, mainly steel and arm production factories are needed to builded in the empire.
Ottoman Khaif
28-08-2005, 19:31
Nov 20, 1908
Ottoman Times
The Ottoman Government have work out a peace treaty with the French, which gives the area of Transjordon to the Traitors...The Sultan has order those units in the area to withdraw from TransJordan. The new Damascus-Mecca railroad will competely bypass TransJordan. It will be compete by 1910, at the latest and with the second line from Mosul-Baghdad-Basrah- Riyadh rail line, this will give our garrions in Al Hejaz two routes of supplies. The Sultan has order a series of forts to be build along the route between Damascus and Mecca. He states that the Ottomans will not stand for traitors attacking their lines once again...yet the peoples reaction this treaty was of overwhelming bitterness and anger that the government give in to the Westerners.
in other new the Ottoman Government has also release paynment plan to repay all the debts that the empire owes to other nations.
Ottoman Khaif
29-08-2005, 05:18
Dec.10,1908
Ottoman Times
Sultan Abd-ul-Hamid II has step down from the thone, this is his statement to the people of the Empire
" I have done my best to rebuild the empire of my forfathers, and I have failed them...I have failed from stopping the empire from lossing more lands and troops. My reforms to the arm forces have failed to stop the taking of holy land by the French and Tratiors..the navy that I have build up to protect my empire, which is now at the sea bed. I have failed in my duty as the Sultan, I have turn my back to my people in TransJordan for peace..they will never forgive me for what I have done. Nearly a million of my countymen are died for nothing, they hope to regain lost lands and that hope was destoryed...I have betrayed them and dishonor their lives. From this moment one I here step down as Sultan of the Ottoman Empire, Caliph of the Muslims. I here by appoint Mehmed VI then to Mehmed V as Sultan of the Ottoman Empire, may my allies give him the same repect as they give me."
Sign
Abd-ul-Hamid II, ex-Sultan of the Ottoman Empire
The New Sultan, Sultan Mehmed VI stated, he'll keep the reforms that were started by the last Sultan in effect.
Ottoman Khaif
29-08-2005, 18:19
Ottoman Times
Jan.12, 1909
Sultan Mehmed VI has orders that army to be increase in size to 300,000 for the standing army, just increasing the Ottoman Army by 50,000. So far the rebuilding of the officer core of the army and navy, is going well. We will have our officer cores rebuild by 1910 at the least. The building of the Mosul-Baghdad-Basrah-Riyadh rail line is right on time, by January of next year it will be compete. Damascus-Mecca rail line will also be competed by January of 1910 at the latest. The defense works for the Damascus-Mecca rail line are also being build, a series of outpost are being build to keep a lookout for raiders from the TransJordan. We are please to state that the Rail network in Persia is nearly competing just a few more months and the rail system will be online. Work on the Smyrna naval base has began, the naval docks for the ships are being build, this naval base will be competed by 1912 at the latest. The Ottoman Navy has stated that the ports of Jiddah in Red Sea, and the Basra and Abadan in the Persian Gulf will become naval bases for the Ottoman Fleet. These ports will be upgraded to handle the big battle cruisers of the fleet. Construction of these naval bases has begun; it will compete by 1914 at the latest.
The Ottoman Government is sitting up a number of factories in Ankara,Eskisheir,Kayseri, Malatya, Diyarbakir, Gaziantep, Adana, Konya, Sanliurfa,Baghdad, Mosul, Damascus, Tehran and Isfahan, these factories will produce a number of products for the empire, such a steel, arms, and number of other goods. Also more funds are being given to education department, in building more schools to get the people educated and able to read and write. With the massive influx of Muslims coming from the Balkans, the Sultan has told these loyal subjects to settled in throughout the empire, stating they are welcome to stay anywhere in the empire.
OOC: notes
One the Massive influx of Muslims leaving the Balkans did happen in rl. Most of these Muslims didn’t feel that they welcome in the Balkans. So they just left the Balkans and went to the Ottoman Empire, they mainly settled in Asia Minor. As for the Ottoman Government building all these factories and railroads, how they are funding it. Well mainly by exporting coal and oil to other nations. This not going to happen over night, the Ottomans are paying off debts and etc. So is going to take sometime for these public works to be completed.
Vas Pokhoronim
29-08-2005, 18:19
Mere words cannot express the depth of our regret for the reverses which this War has inflicted upon our Turkish brothers. It is with great sadness, and a heavy heart, that we watch Istambul’s proud Empire be carved up by foreign Powers and rebels.
We cannot help but feel responsible for this obscene state of affairs, and we pledge ourselves, our honor, and the strength of our victorious arms, to restoring the greatness of the Sublime Porte, by whatever means necessary.
Long live the Sultan Khan.
Grand Chancellor Sergei Yulyevich Witte
OoC: I’m dead serious. You got hosed. Even I think you probably would gotten a better deal out of it if you’d allied with the freakin’ enemy, or at least just stayed neutral and allowed Russia use of the Straits.
Anything the Ottomans need, Russia will provide. Your loyalty will not be forgotten, and we owe you big. Don’t be shy at all about collecting on our debts. Seriously.
Ottoman Khaif
29-08-2005, 18:58
To:Grand Chancellor Sergei Yulyevich Witte
From:Sultan Mehmed VI
If feel so much in debt to us, Ottomans..Then help us rebuild our arm forces. We lack heavy artillery , we want your help in building us a number of factories to build to heavy and light artillery. Aslo we want license to produce many kinds of arms. We help in building our own Machine Guns. Also we want your help in building our rail roads, telegraph systems. Most of all we can't pay you anything ....most of my funds go to repaiding the debts that we owe and what's left is being use to rebuild my arm forces and build the rail system.Also I request those British warships that you bought under our name to send the Ottoman Fleet as soon as you can.Sultan Abd-ul-Hamid II thought this war will rebuild the power of the empire, but all it did is ruin the empire and him. I will not make that same mistake.
sign
Sultan Mehmed VI
OOC: Could give me a list of those ships,you bought from the British for me, but they couldn't get to me, do to League fleet and went to your North Sea Fleet.
Verdant Archipelago
29-08-2005, 20:23
OOC: If you need war materiel, then you might look towards Sweden. We were gearing up our arms industry so we could sell to Russia and Germany, and now that the war ended so abruptly, the recession has hit us fairly hard. We'd even be willing to give fairly low prices, so long as it makes jobs.
Ottoman Khaif
29-08-2005, 20:29
OOC: Ottomans don't need war materiels per said, they want help in building their industy so they don't have ask for them. Unless your going invest in Ottomans land. We can't do much for you.
Ottoman Khaif
29-08-2005, 22:55
Ottoman Times
Jan.18, 1909
After a number of high meetings with the Ottoman General Staff, the Ottoman Army will cut down to 150,000 troops. As for 250,000 that have dismiss from the standing army, they will be become apart of the Reserved Army. Therefore they will be only call in times of war, and not the Government payroll. Only the Standing Army will be on the payroll. These Reserveist are highly troops that will be call to defend their homeland from attack. With smaller standing army, it will be more highly trained by the new rebuilded Officer core.
OOC: Ottomans did this because, they couldn't keep up with a big army anymore with the debt, and number of other factors.
[NS]Parthini
30-08-2005, 02:26
From: Kaiser Wilhelm II
To: Sultan Mehemet IV
First off, I would like to welcome you to the Eastern Coalition. Even though you have had much experience in politics, you have yet had to control such a wonder and grand empire!
Now, to business! It seems that you are lacking the proper training and discipline for your army. It just seems that I now have many officers, but no war to fight! I would be willing to send over nearly 3000 Officers to begin re-training of the Ottoman Army to start off with and quickly begin to syphon more as the progress in Austria is made.
Secondly, you ask for weapons. Germany is about to fall into a sharp decline, economically and would be willing to sell the remaining weapons to the Ottoman Empire for very cheap. We are also willing to build weapons plants throughout your empire so that you can become self-sufficient.
Germany is also opening the door on businesses, and I'm sure I could persuede many to begin investing in Ottoman interests.
I also have a grand plan for a Trans-Eurasia Railway to extend across Eastern Europe and throughout Asia. German railroad companies have already been approved in Yugoslavia and Bulgaria and Russia. It would allow your workers jobs and future trade would be made very easy.
Lastly, I would like to thank your nation for assisting Germany in her time of need. You have sacraficed land for our friendship and we will help you, when the time comes. Know that the Turks hold a special place in my heart, and I will NOT let them suffer.
Ottoman Khaif
30-08-2005, 02:35
From: Sultan Mehemet IV
To: Kaiser Wilhelm II
We thanks you for the investments and officers to train the Ottoman Army. Also we take you up on the offer of weapons plants being build in the Ottoman Empire. Please send your companies to the Ottoman Empire to help us build up my arm production. As for the Trans-Eurasia Railway, we agree to this, and appove of a route to build thought Ottoman Lands.
Sign
Sultan Mehemet IV
Ottoman Khaif
30-08-2005, 02:47
Ottoman Times
Jan.24, 1909
Sultan Mehemet IV has stack the wartime parliament, he has stack Prime Minster Faisal ibn Husayn and cabinet. He has order new elections for the Parliament and for the Office of Prime Minster. The results of the elections will be reported next month.
Vas Pokhoronim
30-08-2005, 06:24
To:Grand Chancellor Sergei Yulyevich Witte
From:Sultan Mehmed VI
If feel so much in debt to us, Ottomans..Then help us rebuild our arm forces. We lack heavy artillery , we want your help in building us a number of factories to build to heavy and light artillery. Aslo we want license to produce many kinds of arms. We help in building our own Machine Guns. Also we want your help in building our rail roads, telegraph systems. Most of all we can't pay you anything ....most of my funds go to repaiding the debts that we owe and what's left is being use to rebuild my arm forces and build the rail system.Also I request those British warships that you bought under our name to send the Ottoman Fleet as soon as you can.Sultan Abd-ul-Hamid II thought this war will rebuild the power of the empire, but all it did is ruin the empire and him. I will not make that same mistake.
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Sultan Mehmed VI
OOC: Could give me a list of those ships,you bought from the British for me, but they couldn't get to me, do to League fleet and went to your North Sea Fleet.
This we will do. The Turks will be great once more.
OoC: I'll look up the warships and get them to you tomorrow. As for munitions and weapons and infrastructure development, that you've definitely got coming.
As per an agreement made by the Australian government exports of heavy artillery will begin to the Ottoman Empire. Guns heavy enough to batter fortifications and defend their coastline will be shipped monthly. (155mm and up) Australian companies have also begun working to improve Turkeys infrastructure building up her railnet. Not only were they to improve the internal railnet but also build railroads to contect the Empire to British Kuwait and India and the new Arab nation in Palestine. Telegraph lines are being laid by these new railroads to make communications across the large empire easier.
Abbassia
30-08-2005, 14:24
From: His majesty King Karl I of Romania
To: His exellency Sultan Mehmed VI
I would like to express my gratitude to our brave allies from the orient, with your help freedom and liberty in the Balkans was achieved. I hope that this is not the end of our mutual cooperation , rather the begining, for much can be done with us working together.
With gratitude,
King Karl I, King of the United Kingdom of Romania
Lesser Ribena
30-08-2005, 14:26
To: Ottoman Government
From: British Government
Dear sirs,
I am writing to you to enquire in relation to a refurbishment of your railroads. I believe that australia, a dominion of ours, is helping you with the refurbishment of your internal railriads. I am offering you the chance to increase foreign trade and connections with the world. Would you be willing to allow the British govvernment to subsidise the construction of a mainline rail route running straight through your empire and the Afghanistan territories to India? Britain would construct the entire line, all that we ask is for a few army posts along the way to ensure the security of the route. The increased trade from this would be a massive boost to your nation and you would be connected to long off places such as Cairo, Cape Town, Delhi, and soon China will be added as well. Please consider this offer and I hope for a great future for our nations.
Ottoman Khaif
31-08-2005, 02:39
To: British Government
From:Ottoman Government
We agree to your terms for this railway, all that we ask is that your hire the local people of the Ottoman Empire for the labor. Also we wish to know how many troops are your planning to use to garrion this rail network in our lands?
Ottoman Khaif
31-08-2005, 03:37
Ottoman Times
Feb.12, 1909
The results of the elections go as following with the Pan Islamic party losing many seats in the House of Command and House of Lords, aka The Senate. The following parties have key seats in the Parliament, the Committee of Union and Progress party, and the Reformist-Unionst Party. The the new Prime Minister of the Ottoman Empire is Ismail Enver Pasha of the Union and Progress party, as for the post of President of the Senate goes to Mustafa Kemal Pasha, of the Union and Progess Party. The first acts of the President and the Prime Minster with the apporve of the Grand Vizier and the Sultan, goes as the following.
The Reforms of the Ottoman Empire,
· Recognition of equal rights to men and women
· Closure of mausoleums and dervish lodges
· Unification of education
· Regulation of the university education
· Innovations in fine arts
· Abolution of tithe
· Encouragement of the farmers
· Establishment of model farms
· Establishment of industrial facilities, and putting into effect a law for incentives for the industry
These are here by sign into effect by the Sultan
With the approved of the Sultan, Prime Minster Ismail Enver Pasha has enacted his five-year plan to rebuild the industries of the Empire.
The State will be investing and set up Joint Stock Companies to meet the goals of the this five year plan.
1. The Ottoman Empire will set up more steel mills and Iron works, to double steel production by ten fold by the year of 1914.
2. The Ottoman Government will set up more heavy and light arms producing plants by the end of 1914; the prime goal to make the Empire not depended on outside aid for arms and ammunition.
3. The Government will set up more heavy industries and light industries throughout the regions of the empire.
4. The improvements of transportations network, by building roads and more railroads to connect the regions of the empire.
5. The state will found new colleges and schools to education the people of the empire.
6. The state will build up the defenses of the key areas of the empire to prevent them from falling in the hands of foes.
In other news the Mosul-Baghdad-Basrah- Riyadh rail line is almost compete ahead of time; it will be competed in the next two months. The Damascus- Mecca rail line is reaching competition with the aid of the allies’ governments. The Persian Rail network and telegraph lines are compete, now connecting the key regions of Persia to the empire. The Government plans to build a massive road system to help in the transportation goods throughout the empire. The construction of the massive naval base in Smyrna is going ahead of planned date, it will open by 1912.
Lesser Ribena
31-08-2005, 14:35
To: Ottoman Government
From: British Government
We thankyou for your agreement, I will of course instruct my engineers to use local workers as much as is possible. As to the army posts, these will consist of little more than a small walled fort and refuelling depot for trains. I was hoping that we might be able to come to an agreement over the sharing of responsibilties for the railway. With perhaps half of the forts Ottoman Army garrisons and the other half British Army garrisons? I believe that this will ease many political disputes and increase security of the railway particularly from Arab and Afghan rebels, I hope that this deal is satisfactory to you, please notify me of any queries taht you may have on this issue.
Austrlia will begin investing in these joint stock companies hoping to improve conditions in a good friends Empire and to make a pound or two doing it.
Ottoman Khaif
31-08-2005, 17:35
To: Ottoman Government
From: British Government
We thankyou for your agreement, I will of course instruct my engineers to use local workers as much as is possible. As to the army posts, these will consist of little more than a small walled fort and refuelling depot for trains. I was hoping that we might be able to come to an agreement over the sharing of responsibilties for the railway. With perhaps half of the forts Ottoman Army garrisons and the other half British Army garrisons? I believe that this will ease many political disputes and increase security of the railway particularly from Arab and Afghan rebels, I hope that this deal is satisfactory to you, please notify me of any queries taht you may have on this issue.
To:British Government
From:Ottoman Government
This deal is satisfactory to the Ottoman Government, may this being weath to our nations over time.
[NS]Parthini
31-08-2005, 18:51
Official German Statement
Germany welcomes these new plans with open arms. German businessmen are very willing to invest in these new stock companies as well as other Ottoman assets. Germany also plans to give the Ottoman Empire an economic aid package of $50 Million to help our great allies pay their debts.
Germany is also interested in construction of many more Universities inside the empire, perhaps even as many as 20 within the next 8 years. Where the Sultan would like them placed is a matter to be decided by the Porte.
Lastly, the ECR (Eastern Coalition Railroad), a newly established railroad company to build the Trans-Eurasia Railroad, wishes to assist the Empire in construction of a railroad through your empire, extending to China.
Ottoman Khaif
31-08-2005, 19:10
The Ottoman Government thanks the Germany and Austrlia for investing in the Joint Stock Companies which will rebuild the empire and make stronger. Also we have began planning for these 20 colleges to set up thoughtout the empire, to help impove the lives of the people. We agree to the ECR (Eastern Coalition Railroad) assist the Empire in construction of a railroads thoughtout the empire.
Ottoman Khaif
31-08-2005, 23:33
Prime Minister Ismail Enver Pasha and Young Turk party members have issue this proclamation, which are now in effect thoughtout the empire.
Proclamation for the Ottoman Empire
1. The basis for the Constitution will be respect for the predominance of the national will. One of the consequences of this principle will be to require without delay the responsibility of the minister before the Chamber, and, consequently, to consider the minister as having resigned, when he does not have a majority of the votes of the Chamber.
2. Provided that the number of senators does not exceed one-third the number of deputies, the Senate will be named as follows: one-third by the Sultan and two-thirds by the nation, and the term of senators will be of limited duration.
3. It will be demanded that all Ottoman subjects having completed their twentieth year, regardless of whether they possess property or fortune, shall have the right to vote. Those who have lost their civil rights will naturally be deprived of this right.
4. It will be demanded that the right freely to constitute political groups be inserted in a precise fashion in the constitutional charter, in order that article 1 of the Constitution of 1293 A.H. [=Anno Hegira] be respected.
7. The Turkish,Arabic, Persian tongue will remain the official state languages. Official correspondence and discussion will take place in Turkish, Arabic and Persian
9. Every citizen will enjoy complete liberty and equality, regardless of nationality or religion, and be submitted to the same obligations. All Ottomans, being equal before the law as regards rights and duties relative to the State, are eligible for government posts, according to their individual capacity and their education. Non-Muslims will be equally liable to the military law.
10. The free exercise of the religious privileges which have been accorded to different nationalities will remain intact.
11. The reorganization and distribution of the State forces, on land as well as on sea, will be undertaken in accordance with the political and geographical situation of the country, taking into account the integrity of the other European powers.
14. Provided that the property rights of landholders are not infringed upon (for such rights must be respected and must remain intact, according to law), it will be proposed that peasants be permitted to acquire land, and they will be accorded means to borrow money at a moderate rate.
16. Education will be free. Every Ottoman citizen, within the limits of the prescriptions of the Constitution, may operate a private school in accordance with the special laws.
17. All schools will operate under the surveillance of the state. In order to obtain for Ottoman citizens an education of a homogenous and uniform character, the officials schools will be open, their instruction will be free, and all nationalities will be admitted. Instruction in Turkish,Arabic,Persian will be obligatory in public schools. In official schools, public instruction will be free. Secondary and higher education will be given in the public and official schools indicated above; it will use the,Arabic,Persian ,Turkish tongues. Schools of commerce, agriculture, and industry will be opened with the goal of developing the resources of the country.
18. Steps shall also be taken for the formation of roads and railways and canals to increase the facilities of communication and increase the sources of the wealth of the country. Everything that can impede commerce or agriculture shall be abolished.
OOC: Note this is the rl Young Turk Proclamation ,yet I have changed some times.
Ottoman Khaif
02-09-2005, 03:25
March/ April 1908
The Ottoman Goverment has pass a act to being buying limted numbers of planes to be use in the training of a new Ottoman Air Core. The Ottoman Government is very intested in fight and sees it as the way of the future.
Ottoman Khaif
03-09-2005, 21:46
Jan 1920
Ottoman Times
Headlines Egypt returns to the Ottoman Empire!
After a series of meetings with the British Government, the Ottomans have regain control of Egypt, the terms of agreement goes as following
1. The British and French maintain control over the Suez Canal
2. The British maintain control over the Cape Town-Cairo railroad.
3. Great Britain maintains control over the shipyards at Alexandria.
4. British Trade interest over the region will be maintain.
5. Both nations will garrison Egypt.
6. The Ottoman Viceroy works with a British General Governor on the affairs of Egypt.
With that the Ottoman Government is send 20,000 troops to garrison the region, and train the new division of Egyptians Ottoman Units for the area. The Ottoman General Staff hopes have a force of 90,000 by the end of the year.
(OOC: Both Britian and I have agree to this. Joint rule over Egypt.)
Galveston Bay
04-09-2005, 03:37
technically, by the way, the French own half the rights to the Suez Canal as well.
Ottoman Khaif
04-09-2005, 03:39
technically, by the way, the French own half the rights to the Suez Canal as well.
OOC: Alright, I'll edit it.
Galveston Bay
04-09-2005, 03:56
by the way, Denmark be sure in factor into your plans for the Danish Virgin Islands that occasionally a hurricane comes along and smacks the place pretty hard.
Ottoman Khaif
04-09-2005, 03:58
by the way, Denmark be sure in factor into your plans for the Danish Virgin Islands that occasionally a hurricane comes along and smacks the place pretty hard.
OOC:GB....what does Denmark have to do with the Ottoman Times...???
Galveston Bay
04-09-2005, 04:48
OOC:GB....what does Denmark have to do with the Ottoman Times...???
oops, wrong thread...
Fluffywuffy
05-09-2005, 00:04
To: The Ottoman Government
From: The Italian Government
It is time to set asside our differences. The Germans and Russians are going red, and nations from Spain to Brazil and under the new communist threat's gun. Italy apologizes for its earlier demands from the Ottoman Empire; King Vittorio was ill on that day, and his demands were not made in good health.
Italy proposes that we sign a non-aggression pact and an anti-communist defense pact. Also, as Italy is going to be in need of fuel, Italy requests that the Sublime Porte allow Italian companies to purchase oil, with tarrifs lowered to 5% to make Italians wish to import Ottoman oil.
Ottoman Khaif
05-09-2005, 01:15
To: The Italian Government
From: The Ottoman Government
The Government of the Ottoman Empire will not break ties with her war time allies, we will not sign a anti-communist defense pact, that would put us against our own very allies. Yet we will sign a non-aggression pact with Italy. We will allow Italian Companies to buy oil from the Anglo-Ottoman oil company and welcome you nation interested in buying our oil.
Sign
Prime Minister Ismail Enver Pasha
Sign
President Mustafa Kemal Pasha
Fluffywuffy
05-09-2005, 01:25
To: The Ottoman Government
From: The Italian Government
Italy accepts this, and will sign an aggression pact just as long as Italian companies are allowed to purchase oil. Perhaps in time our relationship will grow and the Sublime Porte will reconsider siding with communists, considering the significant aid Italy can give the Sublime Porte.
Gintonpar
05-09-2005, 11:02
To: The Ottoman Government
From: The Italian Government
Italy accepts this, and will sign an aggression pact just as long as Italian companies are allowed to purchase oil. Perhaps in time our relationship will grow and the Sublime Porte will reconsider siding with communists, considering the significant aid Italy can give the Sublime Porte.
The Sublime Porte is not as you say, 'siding with communists', it is simply not siding with militarist anti-communist. Italy would drag the world into war again because she is insecure about her own government. We, Brazil, are a socialist nation and we are worried by the current attitude of Italy which seems to be wanting to start another World War so soon after the last one.
Ottoman Khaif
05-09-2005, 16:59
Ottoman Times
Jan 2,1920
Many things have happen over the pass 11 years, the Ottoman Government has manger to pay most of her debt from the great war, thought sells of oil and the selling of German East Africa to Britain. The Empire has recover from the war, with the help of the Young Turks. Our rail and road transports network is now compete, just allowing anyone in the empire to travel to any area within the empire with easy. Thanks to the five-year plans our industries are building themselves up and giving jobs to the people, our nation is getting stronger every day. Automobiles are becoming common sight in the main cites of the empire…there are talks that the Government would like to get Ford to build a plant in Ottoman lands. The Ottoman Air core is growing in size from 50 scout plans to 100 scout planes. The Government states that the airplane is key to the future.
In other news the Ottoman Fleet, has completely move into the new naval base of Smyrna, the new headquarters for the fleet. Also the Ottoman Army is being to put in some amour cars that have bought from Russia and German in use in a few of the army cores to test how these cars will be useful for the empire. Also the Ottoman Government have began to build a number of coal power plants to give power to the key steel mills in the Ottoman Asia Minor, the primly goal is to build up the power gird to supply power to the entire empire. With Egypt being given back to the empire , the Ottoman Government plans to station 100,000 troops to the area, to protect and garrison the region. The Sultan has order that Egypt will build up even more then it already is, to make it a powerhouse for the empire.
Amestria
06-09-2005, 03:40
From the Government of the Republic of Albania
We demand financal aid to recover from the two centuries of misrule and impoverishment you Turks subjected us too! Until such aid is provided it will be illegal for any Turkish company to invest in our country.
President Turkhan Pasha of Albania
Ottoman Khaif
06-09-2005, 03:42
From the Government of the Republic of Albania
We demand financal aid to recover from the two centuries of misrule and impoverishment you Turks subjected us too! Untill such aid is provided it will be illegal for any Turkish company to invest in our country.
President Turkhan Pasha of Albania
OOC: That's very unwise to demand and insult the Ottoman Empire and to think it was the Ottomans that were willing to defend your nation from being annex in the Great War, in this timeline. For all we care about Albania it can just rot away...after that insult.
Amestria
06-09-2005, 20:47
The Government of Albania apologizes for it's rude and ungreatfull comments and hopes that they can be forgiven. The ambassadors shall be returned and the restrictions on Turkish trade and investment lifted.
-President Turkhan Pasha of The Republic of Albania
Ottoman Khaif
06-09-2005, 23:10
To:President Turkhan Pasha of The Republic of Albania
From:President Mustafa Kemal Pasha
We are willing to overlooked this rudeness toward our nation. As investments in your nation, we'll began to invest in your nation and we will kept on trading with your nation.
Ottoman Khaif
08-09-2005, 01:14
March 12,1920
Ottoman Times
The Ottoman General Staff has order that (100,000 troops) 20 new divisions of the Army core must be raised and well train, these new divisions of the army core will be station in Iran and Egypt. They will be completely train and ready for combat by December at the very latest. These new division will have amour cars and scout planes assign to them. The Government prime goal to make the arm forces up to date and able to defend the Empire. The Government will set up more arms plants throughout the empire to make the army better supplies and goods that are home made and be not require to be imported from Outside nations, just making the empire not dependent for supplies of ammo and arms.
Ottoman Khaif
09-09-2005, 02:09
May/April 1920
Prime Minister Ismail Enver Pasha and President Mustafa Kemal Pasha have manger to pass another key series of reforms for the Empire.
1. The Ottoman Government will be improving the existing road and rail networks in Persia and Iraq.
2. The Government will build up the road and rail networks in the remote regions of the empire.
3. The Government will be granting more loans to local companies to set up factories in Iraq and Persia.
4. The Telegraph network will be improve and made a wireless network.
5. The State will build more schools in all the regions of the empire.
6. The State will be building up all the deep ports up and improve the defenses.
7. The State will began improving the rail systems and industries of Ottoman Egypt.
All these reforms will be compete by 1928.
Ottoman Khaif
09-09-2005, 23:43
Ottoman Times
June, 1920
The Ottoman Goverment with the aid of the Russians, have build a cooperative armaments factory at Eregli-Karabuk, Konya region. The Ottoman Government has also change the name of the Port of Smyrna to Izmir, to show that city is Ottoman City and not a Greek City. The Ottoman Government has order that more amoured cars to be build from the new factory at Eregli, to modenize the Ottoman Army.
Ottoman Khaif
11-09-2005, 02:14
Ottoman Times
July, 1920
The Ottoman Government has pass a new defense act to upgrade the existing defenses for the Dardanelles, the Governemnt feels that it is key that Dardanelles must be up to date, to protect the empire from attack. The Upgrades and refits to the defenses of the Dardanelles will be this month and end in 1921.
Ottoman Khaif
11-09-2005, 21:02
"In the interests of the greater co-operation and independence fo the peoples of the Middle East from the influences of the European continent, the Republic of Palestine and the Ottoman Empire will form the Middle Eastern Confederacy"
Terms of the Treaty of 1920
1. Palestine and the Ottoman Empire will protect eachother from all attacks.
2. There will be no restriction on Trade and Travel between the two nations
3. Criminals from one nation apprehended in another will be returned to their home nation for trial.
4. A right of passage will be grant, so that both nations within the treaty, may use eachothers railroads and roads to tranport goods and arms to the front in war and peacetime.
5. No European Power may base its troops within the treaty nations regions, without premission of the treaty nations.
6. During times of war, the treaty nations will be obliged to assist each other.
7. All Treaty nations will do their utmost to avoid entering European wars, and will do so only as a last resort.
Sign into effect
By the Ottoman and Palestine Goverments.
Ottoman Khaif
15-09-2005, 00:57
Ottoman Times
Feb 14,1921
The upgrades to the defense of the Dardanelles are nearly compete, new sets of 12 inch guns have put in place at the key gates of the straits. Also a numbers of forts have been build to withstand a massive attack from the sea, also new access ways have been in place to give easy access for supplies to get goods to the forts and other key defense points in the area. By far the Dardanelles is a most build area of defenses in the entire empire.
Also here is a update on the reforms that are to be compete by 1928
1. The Ottoman Government will be improving the existing road and rail networks in Persia and Iraq.(40 percent compete)
2. The Government will build up the road and rail networks in the remote regions of the empire.( 60 percent compete)
3. The Government will be granting more loans to local companies to set up factories in Iraq and Persia.( roughly 20 new factories have been open in Persia and 15 for Iraq, all design to build farming equitment for the people)
4. The Telegraph network will be improve and made a wireless network.(Compete)
5. The State will build more schools in all the regions of the empire.( 70 percent compete)
6. The State will be building up all the deep ports up and improve the defenses.(20 percent compete)
7. The State will began improving the rail systems and industries of Ottoman Egypt.( 18 percent compete)
Amestria
15-09-2005, 03:17
Message from the Albanian Ministry of Foreign Affairs
Our President, Turkhan Pasha, wishes to visit your country and have a personal meeting with the Ottoman Empire's President and Prime Minister. The offical visit shall occur in November, is this acceptable to the Ottoman Government?
Ottoman Khaif
15-09-2005, 04:25
To:President Turkhan Pasha
From:President Mustafa Kemal Pasha
We look forward to your visted in November, and I look forward to meeting you.
Sign
President Mustafa Kemal Pasha
Ottoman Khaif
16-09-2005, 03:20
Ottoman Times
Mar 12,1921
The Ottoman High Sea Command will be doing naval war games to impove the readness of the Entire Fleet. Aslo the Ottoman Army of Asia Minor will be doing war games to impove their training for any wars. The Ottoman Goverment pass a act creating the National Health Care system, which will give the people health care at low cost. Just impoving the standed of living for the people of the Emprie.
Ottoman Khaif
20-09-2005, 00:33
Jan. 1, 1922
Also here is a update on the reforms that are to be compete by 1928
1. The Ottoman Government will be improving the existing road and rail networks in Persia and Iraq.(70 percent compete)
2. The Government will build up the road and rail networks in the remote regions of the empire.( 71 percent compete)
3. The Government will be granting more loans to local companies to set up factories in Iraq and Persia.(compete)
4. The Telegraph network will be improve and made a wireless network.(Compete)
5. The State will build more schools in all the regions of the empire.( 80 percent compete)
6. The State will be building up all the deep ports up and improve the defenses.(49 percent compete)
7. The State will began improving the rail systems and industries of Ottoman Egypt.( 32 percent compete)
The Russo-German Union
20-09-2005, 01:26
As part of the renewal of friendship between the Powers, the Union will assist the Ottoman Empire in developing and increasing the production of armored artillery cars, variously called tbronniki or Panzers depending on the specific design.
Hamburg [OoC: Location of the Revolutionary High Command] is also announcing the planning of joint Naval exercises between the several Powers in the Black Sea and Eastern Mediterranean in the Summer of 1922.
Lesser Ribena
20-09-2005, 13:51
The State will began improving the rail systems and industries of Ottoman Egypt
Britain would be glad to assist the Ottomans further devlop industry in the joint territory of Egypt. Particularly industries that contribute to the local economy. Britain will supply engineers and technicians to assist Ottoman workers.
On a similar note we have established a university in Cairo, nextdoor to theBritish Museum there, to educate the local populace. Promising students will be subsidised places at the university and studies will likely concentrate on engineering and the sciences. The subsidies will ensure free tuition provided that the student signs a contract to agree to work for a local or British company for the next 5 years.
OOC: Perhaps Anglo-Ottoman Egypt is a better name considering that it's joint controlled.
Ottoman Khaif
21-09-2005, 00:16
Feb 14, 1922
Ottoman Times
The Ottoman General Staff has order that all the army corps of Asia Minior to be call up for active duty, in the coming war games and also to help them in getting use to the amoured cars that are being build in Asia Minior thanks to the help of the Russians.
Fluffywuffy
21-09-2005, 00:25
OOC: Posted in the foriegn possessions thread, but reposted here for more responses.
IC:
The Italian government has officially asked the British and Ottoman governments if Italy can purchase part of Egypt. Basically, the purchase is to make the Libya-Egypt border the same as the modern one, except that the border would be moved to 25 degrees east. I am assuming that places the border on almost exactly the same spot as the modern border, except that the line is straight the entire way.
Ottoman Khaif
21-09-2005, 00:27
Before the Ottoman Government even thinks about argeeing about selling this land, we want to know how much the Italian Government is willing to offer.
Fluffywuffy
21-09-2005, 00:36
Italy offers $120 million dollars (OOC: which was probably a large amount at this time), plus we will remove all tarrifs on Ottoman goods.
Ottoman Khaif
21-09-2005, 01:26
The Ottoman Government will not say anything on this matter,intill we hear from our British counterparts.
OOC: I agree to this sell of land, but I'll wait for Britian say on the matter.
IC:
The Hungarian Government wishes to know if the Ottoman Empire is interested in helping establish and improve the weak Hungarian Industrial/Manufacturing base. Hungary is also interested in a educational and military exchange program with the Ottomans's.
Ottoman Khaif
21-09-2005, 02:52
IC:
The Hungarian Government wishes to know if the Ottoman Empire is interested in helping establish and improve the weak Hungarian Industrial/Manufacturing base. Hungary is also interested in a educational and military exchange program with the Ottomans's.
The Ottoman Government is very interested in helping your nation establish and impove your nation Industrial base. Also we agree to the idea of educational and military exchange program with your nation.
Colombia has begun to invest in the Ottoman Empire as it appears quite steady and its market does not fluctuate wildly. Hopefully the Turks will reciopricate.
Ottoman Khaif
21-09-2005, 03:36
The Ottoman Government welcomes investnments from the nation of Colombia. May this be a sign of new relations between our two nations.
Vas Pokhoronim
21-09-2005, 06:43
Just posting here as well, that two Red Army Corps, at Istambul's request, have been stationed in Anatolia.
And also, the Union ambassador will mention to the Turkish government that Colombia is a particularly rabid enemy of Moscow's, moreso than the Americans to whom they prostituted themselves. We do not object to the Turkish People taking the money of the bootlicking Colombian swine, but would appreciate and advise that relations do not grow too close.
Sel Appa
22-09-2005, 20:42
The Republic of Haiti wishes to open relations with the Ottoman Empire. We have valuable coffee, sugar, and bauxite up for trade. In return, we require silver, copper, cement, lumber, and steel. We also are in need of skilled workers to help train our citizens(teachers, engineers, doctors...).
Lesser Ribena
22-09-2005, 20:59
Britain agrees to the sale of parts of Anglo-Ottoman Egypt to Italy on the condition that Italy agrees to remove all tariffs on British goods (this might already be the case, but I can't remember).
Fluffywuffy
22-09-2005, 23:59
(OOC: I think it may be the case. Tariffs in Italy are low at this point from my actions anyways, and so no tariffs would probably mean pretty much nothing)
Italy agrees to the British request, and can begin the transfer of funds as soon as possible.
Vas Pokhoronim
23-09-2005, 04:55
We agree to conduct excercies in the dardenelles straights in the hopes of training our fleets.
You know Japan is a staunch enemy of Russia, right? Behaving more aggressively all the time. And the Dardanelles is awfully close. Moscow trusts Istambul, but not Tokyo, and is made very uneasy by this proposal.
Ottoman Khaif
23-09-2005, 05:00
You know Japan is a staunch enemy of Russia, right? Behaving more aggressively all the time. And the Dardanelles is awfully close. Moscow trusts Istambul, but not Tokyo, and is made very uneasy by this proposal.
I know this, but you must note I only give permission to enter the dardanelles that all, they have to ask for permission to enter the Black Sea. They only doing a war game in the dardanelles with my fleet. Trust me if they are entering the most build up area of defense for the Ottoman Empire, if anything happens...I'll make sure its does effect you or anyone.
Vas Pokhoronim
23-09-2005, 05:09
Thanks. Like I say, we trust you.
Ottoman Khaif
24-09-2005, 01:21
July 4, 1922
Also here is a update on the reforms that are to be compete by 1928
1. The Ottoman Government will be improving the existing road and rail networks in Persia and Iraq.(78 percent compete)
2. The Government will build up the road and rail networks in the remote regions of the empire.( 77 percent compete)
3. The Government will be granting more loans to local companies to set up factories in Iraq and Persia.(compete)
4. The Telegraph network will be improve and made a wireless network.(Compete)
5. The State will build more schools in all the regions of the empire.( 80 percent compete)
6. The State will be building up all the deep ports up and improve the defenses.(56 percent compete)
7. The State will began improving the rail systems and industries of Ottoman- British Egypt.( 42 percent compete)
In new the Ottoman General Staff has call up all reseve cores in Asia Minor for duty. Garrisons across Western Asia Minor were getting ready for something big. Along the coastal regions, the Port of Izmir was under the protection of the Coastal forts, with the big 12 inch guns over looking the sea. The Ottoman Navy set sail to the Western Argeans...awaiting orders to began something. Also two more divisions were send to the naval base in Crete, to shore up the defenses of the key naval base in the land.
[NS]Parthini
24-09-2005, 02:14
The Worker's Railroad is interested in increasing the amount of railways in your Empire. We are also interested in building more schools, primary and universities.
Please respond.
Ottoman Khaif
24-09-2005, 02:18
The Ottoman Government welcomes the German-Russian union help in building up our railroads and schools.
Ottoman Khaif
24-09-2005, 03:10
In Serect
The Ottoman General Staff, send orders all for the garrisons acosss the Empire to be on stand by and watch for anything. The Ottoman Government has order the Garrisons of Persia and Egypt to get ready for anything.
Ottoman Khaif
24-09-2005, 17:03
Augt 10, 1922
In Secert
A heated debate breaks between Prime Minister Ismail Enver Pasha and
President Mustafa Kemal Pasha, both leaders had different plans for the Empire. As the debates went on the President Kemal manger to get enough votes from the Senators and Ministers to stop a plan war against Greece. Just defeating the Prime Minister goals for a greater Ottoman Empire. Also resulting in a split between the Young Turks lead by Enver Pasha and the new Republician party lead by Kemel Pasha. After the vote, the Sultan send word to all his commanders(thoughtout the empire) to stand down and return to peacetime duty.
In Public
The Ottoman Government had orders all its forces to stand down and go back to peace time duty, the war games have been called off by the Sultan.
Vas Pokhoronim
24-09-2005, 17:28
Augt 10, 1922
In Secert
A heated debate breaks between Prime Minister Ismail Enver Pasha and
President Mustafa Kemal Pasha, both leaders had different plans for the Empire. As the debates went on the President Kemal manger to get enough votes from the Senators and Ministers to stop a plan war against Greece. Just defeating the Prime Minister goals for a greater Ottoman Empire. Also resulting in a split between the Young Turks lead by Enver Pasha and the new Republician party lead by Kemel Pasha. After the vote, the Sultan send word to all his commanders(thoughtout the empire) to stand down and return to peacetime duty.
In Public
The Ottoman Government had orders all its forces to stand down and go back to peace time duty, the war games have been called off by the Sultan.
Probably wisest, really. Greece's neutrality was supposed to be guaranteed by a bunch of major powers, and while whether any of them would take their seriously is questionable (Russia wouldn't have, and neither would Germany), it was certainly risky.
Ottoman Khaif
25-09-2005, 22:32
Nov/Dec 1922
Ottoman Times
Prime Minister Ismail Enver Pasha has set plans to enlarge the Ottoman Arm Forces in light of the growing unstablness of the World. The Ottoman General Staff will also began recuitment programs to get more troops in the army.
In Secret
Prime Minister Ismail Enver Pasha plans were the following
Plan of Arm Forces reforms to be competed by 1926 at the latest
The Army Core will be enlarge by 10 divisions(60 divisons in total), each division will have a enough amour cars and artillery to support them.
The Air Core will be enlarge to 200 fighter planes and 20 bombers
The Navy will expand its sub fleet by 40 more subs.
[NS]Parthini
26-09-2005, 00:47
Official Left Hand Statement
The Left Hand has noticed our ally's desire to create a larger air corps. Thus, we are willing to construct three aircraft production plants in your country, and provide our Fokker Triplane designs for your benefit. All of this for an easy payment of 20 Million.
Ottoman Khaif
26-09-2005, 01:05
Ottoman Statement:
We thanks the Left Hand help in building these three aircraft production plants, the paynment of 20 million dollars is on the way to your banks. These three plants will be build Ankara, Istanbul and Izmir.
Lesser Ribena
26-09-2005, 17:07
Britain enquires what the current strength of the Ottoman garisson in Egypt is.
OOC:
I'm not planning a war or anything but Britain likes to keep up with it's neighbours and national pride demands that the British garrison must at least equal the Ottomans in strength.
Also, perhaps you'll engage in some military exercises with us? Particularly infantry tactics but if you have any armoured cars or tanks we can practice with them. Should help improve both armies.
Furthermore perhaps some joint efforts near Afghanistan Persia etc. to put down rebels there would improve relationships and develop better fighting skills?
Great Bled
26-09-2005, 18:03
Speach distributed to various Arabic Imams, originally written by Imam Muad Dib:
Fellow followers of the prophet of Allah,
Look at the dog you are led by, this Grand Vizier Halil Rifat Pasha. He was unworthier than even the impurrest of infidells. He is sworn to Allah, and yet disobeys him blatantly. Did the prophet not say to destroy the infidells, and yet Halil Rifat Pasha walks hand in hand with them. Do not tolerate this treachery. He has even allowed those swine of British to plant colonys on gods land. It is because of scum like him that the Jihad failed. Let us have more faith and show our unending dedication to Allah. May Muhammads Jihad live again! DEATH TO INFIDELS! ALLAH AKBAR! JIHAD!
Great Bled
26-09-2005, 18:06
[I then arm the population and turn them againts whoever refuses to join me. That should do reasonable amounts of damage.]
Vas Pokhoronim
26-09-2005, 18:40
Great Bled, I hope you've informed Galveston Bay about your uprising, in accordance with the War Policy as outlined in the Main Thread, first post.
I would also like you to direct your attention there to the Realism Policy. Using a character out of "Dune" as your leader is a violation of that (did you really expect that to slide by?). Do some more research, and come up with something better. This counts as an official warning from the Reality Moderator.
Galveston Bay
26-09-2005, 18:46
OOC
Arming the population isn't hard.. they are already armed. However mostly with ancient rifles. Unless someone is actually willing to supply them however, they are no match for the Turkish Army, and they are well aware of it. Raids increase slightly against soft targets like under escorted caravans, but otherwise nothing noticable occurs. The Turks are annoyed however, and several Imans are arrested and are subsequently executed after torture. They also provide sufficient information to place the ringleaders on the run.
The House of Saud, the leading tribe in Arabia, is annoyed that they were not consulted by the would be rebels.
Great Bled
26-09-2005, 20:06
Great Bled, I hope you've informed Galveston Bay about your uprising, in accordance with the War Policy as outlined in the Main Thread, first post.
I would also like you to direct your attention there to the Realism Policy. Using a character out of "Dune" as your leader is a violation of that (did you really expect that to slide by?). Do some more research, and come up with something better. This counts as an official warning from the Reality Moderator.
The name doesn't matter. I can change it if you like. What matters is the fact that with the foreign policy the Ottomans have been leading, there was bound to be at least rioting in some muslim cities, notably Mecca. I'm trying to turn this into a full scale revolution by reminding the people of the glory days of the Muslim empire. I find that pretty realistic. I am researching on the Arabs in those times, don't worry about that, but their actual history doesn't correspond to this case. I can assure you that the Ottoman ruler blatantly dissobeying the Koran would have raised a lot of eyebrows in those days (maybe he should get an official warning for that).
Vas Pokhoronim
26-09-2005, 20:10
I think you're overestimating Muslim xenophobia a lot.
Great Bled
26-09-2005, 20:55
I think you're overestimating Muslim xenophobia a lot.
Not so sure. Despite having dropped massively since the 1920s, it is still strong enough to threaten the US (What else do you call Al-Quaida). And the royal family would, within reason, be more devout than it has been here.
[NS]Amestria
26-09-2005, 21:27
Not so sure. Despite having dropped massively since the 1920s, it is still strong enough to threaten the US (What else do you call Al-Quaida). And the royal family would, within reason, be more devout than it has been here.
A significant cause in the rise in Muslem extremism throughout the 20th century was the Zion migration after WWI (with British assistence) and the establishment of the State of Israel after WWII. That has not happened in this time line (Zion is in South America, ironicaly where the Natzi's fled in RL) and Palistine is under Arab rule. Opposition to the Ottoman Empire from it's Arab population would take a more nationalistic/tribal line, although religous fanatics still exist (you can't seem to get rid of them) and would use religion to justify their actions.
Historicaly the Arab world attempted to modernize and catch up with the West, but the corrupt Arab states choose bad ideas and implemented them poorly. After the bastardized modernization, religous fundementialism increased in leaps and bounds (keep in mind at this time Islam is less uniform as there is currently no technoligy that allows mass communication, such as tv, radio or the aduio tape)....
Thats just my two cents...
[NS]Amestria
26-09-2005, 21:38
The name doesn't matter. I can change it if you like. What matters is the fact that with the foreign policy the Ottomans have been leading, there was bound to be at least rioting in some muslim cities, notably Mecca. I'm trying to turn this into a full scale revolution by reminding the people of the glory days of the Muslim empire. I find that pretty realistic. I am researching on the Arabs in those times, don't worry about that, but their actual history doesn't correspond to this case. I can assure you that the Ottoman ruler blatantly dissobeying the Koran would have raised a lot of eyebrows in those days (maybe he should get an official warning for that).
Muslems have long compromised with the Western nations, and as I have pointed out 1920s Islam was not as uniform as 1990s Islam (the Sunni/Shitte split still goes on to this day and their are many other cults and "evolved" versions of the religion; for example in South East Asia it is common to mix idol worship with traditional Islamic belief).
Furthermore the Islamic Empire is still in existence, through the Ottomans, whose Sultan claims to be the calph.
During the 1920's in real life the European powers directly administered the region or supported puppet governments. There was rebellions and terrorism, but it never reached the scale of revolution (except in Iraq, which in this time-line thankfully does not exist, as it was a historical mistake). Great Bled has an inaccurate picture of the 1920s Middle East.
In this time-line there would be, in my opinon, less revolutionary pressure in the region as an Arab State currently exists, there has been no Zionist migration, the Ottoman Empire is stable, and the Europeans are not trying to turn the Middle East into a semi-colony.
Ottoman Khaif
26-09-2005, 23:40
OOC:Great Bled- you have no idea about what as happen in the past 20 years, secondly the Ottomans are not blatantly dissobeying the Koran as your freaking claim. We are the Islamic State, sure I did some reforms to my econ and army, that was about it. The Ottomans wouldn't dare disobey the Qu'ran as your freaking claim. Third, Arabs are treated equally to Turks, Persians and Kurds, in the Ottoman Government there is big pan Islamic party, and they are made up of those people. Therefore we are still Islamic State. Fouth Grand Vizier Halil Rifat Pasha has been dead for nealy 18 YEARS! Get with the times, and read all of my new thead before posting stuff. Beside you have better luck doing a nationalist rebellion then a Islamic Rebellions, because the Islamic parties have alot of power in my government would look down upon this camel raider rebellion. For goodness stake at least have your leader name be a Arabic sounding one and from Dune, which is damn good book. Plus my nation is very stable compare to the rl Ottoman Empire, so people are less likly to rebel and join your cause. Beside its high offence in the Islamic state to rebel against the caliph( who happens to the Ottoman Sultan)
Agh.....I hate when people don't brother to ask me some questions before hand and clean some of this stuff up....its really gets on my nevres..
IC: Do to unrest in Arabia, the Ottoman Government has order all garrisons to be on guard for raids and attacks form rebel fighters. Also the Ottoman Goverment has order all the major garrisons in the city to be on the watch for rebels. As for the railroad lines, the Ottoman Army has station more troops to protect the key rail lines of the region. Also the Ottoman Army will be double the amount of protection needed for the caravans of Arabia.
Ottoman Khaif
26-09-2005, 23:57
Britain enquires what the current strength of the Ottoman garisson in Egypt is.
OOC:
I'm not planning a war or anything but Britain likes to keep up with it's neighbours and national pride demands that the British garrison must at least equal the Ottomans in strength.
Also, perhaps you'll engage in some military exercises with us? Particularly infantry tactics but if you have any armoured cars or tanks we can practice with them. Should help improve both armies.
Furthermore perhaps some joint efforts near Afghanistan Persia etc. to put down rebels there would improve relationships and develop better fighting skills?
In Serect
The Ottoman garrison in Egypt is 10 Army Corps Station in Egypt(at peacetime standing around 50,000)
Five Ottoman Marine Divisions Station in Egypt(Around 50,000)
OOC: I am more then willing to do some military exercises with you, it will help my nation army greater. As for Joint efforts near Afghanistan, Persia and etc, I support this idea of our forces working together and crushing rebellions to impove our skills.
The Republic of Palestine would like to take0 part in any exercises that take place, if the Ottoman government and British Government will allow it.
Ottoman Khaif
27-09-2005, 00:13
The Republic of Palestine would like to take0 part in any exercises that take place, if the Ottoman government and British Government will allow it.
The Ottoman Government welcomes Palestine in joining our exercises to impove our arm forces fighting skills.
Ottoman Khaif
27-09-2005, 00:58
Jan 12, 1923
Also here is a update on the reforms that are to be compete by 1928
1. The Ottoman Government will be improving the existing road and rail networks in Persia and Iraq.(87 percent compete)
2. The Government will build up the road and rail networks in the remote regions of the empire.( 81 percent compete)
3. The Government will be granting more loans to local companies to set up factories in Iraq and Persia.(compete)
4. The Telegraph network will be improve and make a wireless telegraph network.(Compete)
5. The State will build more schools in all the regions of the empire.( 87 percent compete)
6. The State will be building up all the deep ports up and improve the defenses.(76 percent compete)
7. The State will began improving the rail systems and industries of Ottoman- British Egypt.( 54 percent compete)
Ottoman Khaif
27-09-2005, 01:42
Ottoman Offically statement on the unrest in Arabia
Ottoman Government has order the all army cores units in the area to get ready for any rebel attacks on their outpost, also the Ottoman Government will be assign number of scout planes to help the regional forces quell any up coming rebellion. The Government stated is a act of the rebels who are to weaked the empire and allow the lands of the Muslims to be under European rule.
In Sercet
Ottoman officers in the region began to recuit informents to help the Ottoman Army in rooting out these rebels. Also the Ottomans have began recuiting a number of the local people and paiding in large amounts to fight for the Ottomans in crushing this coming rebellion.
Lesser Ribena
27-09-2005, 13:37
IC: Britain would be grateful of any help Palestine could give in the counter-insurgency efforts.
SEMI-SECRETLY (ie. spies and local people etc. will know, as well as allies):
Britain begins reinforcing the garrisons in Afghanistan to prepare for anti-rebel operations. One division of troops from India has been sent alongside a regular British brigade, a brigade from Pakistan, a brigade from Egypt and a brigade from Canada. Artillery support is provided by divisional and brigade level artillery (alongside smaller batallion level field and mountain batteries) and MG units attached as standard practice (see military thread). Standard scout attachments (including armoured cars and motor cycles) are also sent. The 1st Landship Independent Brigade also mobilises a regiment of landships (tanks) from their depot in Egypt and they are sent by ship to Pakistan and dispatched under Pakistani infantry escort towards Afghanistan. Several irregular cavalry units are also raised from India and Pakistan.
The Palistinian and Ottoman governments are informed that the operation has begun and they are free to send forces to assist.
As the troops arrive in Afghanistan the infantry and irregular cavalry are immediately dispatched to the hills to deal with some particularly troublesome rebels encamped there whilst the other units proceed under escort to Kabul to reinforce the garrison there and to establish a depot.
Secret IC: Palestine surreptiously offers the services of their Inteligence Agency in seeking out those who would seek to destablise the Middle East, as well as the services of the newly formed Long Range Desert Combat Group.
Ottoman Khaif
27-09-2005, 23:56
In Secret
With the new of the British began in operations in Afghanistan. The Ottoman General order the 12th Army Division( all Persian) and the 19th Army Division(50%Turkish and 50% Arab) to be send to Afghanistan to aid the British in their war against the rebels,also the High Ranking Officers of the these two divisions were told to make detail maps of the area, and also to set up contacts in Afghanistan...for the future these contacts may come in handy... around 15,000 troops have send to help the Britishs in the Afghanistan.
Ottoman Khaif
28-09-2005, 01:57
Feb 20, 1923
Also here is a update on the reforms that are to be compete by 1928
1. The Ottoman Government will be improving the existing road and rail networks in Persia and Iraq.(88 percent compete)
2. The Government will build up the road and rail networks in the remote regions of the empire.( 82 percent compete)
3. The Government will be granting more loans to local companies to set up factories in Iraq and Persia.(compete)
4. The Telegraph network will be improve and make a wireless telegraph network.(Compete)
5. The State will build more schools in all the regions of the empire.( 87 percent compete)
6. The State will be building up all the deep ports up and improve the defenses.(79 percent compete)
7. The State will began improving the rail systems and industries of Ottoman- British Egypt.( 60 percent compete)
In other new
The Ottoman Steel Company has gain a enought state grants to began building four steel mills and two new Iron works in the empire. The Company is building two steel mills in Konya, one in Eskisehir, and other on in Gaziantep. As for the two Iron works will be build in Diyarbakir. These four steel mills and two iron works will be competed in early 1924, they will greatly the Ottoman Empire in producing steel and process iron ore.
Amestria
28-09-2005, 02:07
In secret the Albanian government urges the Ottoman Empire to help their former subjects in Kosovo, who the Yugoslavians are persecuting. They remind the Empire that Albanians served them loyaly for over 300 years and suggest that Turkish assistence in Kosovo would be returned by the Albanian Republic.
OOC: During the Balkan wars of the 1990s Turkey threatened to get involved to defend "their former subjects", further prompting NATO to do something. So I doubt that the response would be any different from the Ottomans.
Ottoman Khaif
28-09-2005, 02:21
In Secrect
The Ottoman Government was still greatly annoy by the Albanian government for demanding money for all those years of Ottoman rule. It had greatly insult the Ottoman repect for their ex subjects. Yet they would turn a old shoulder to their fellow Muslims of Albania. The Ottoman Government reply that would pressure Yugoslavia to give equal treatement to the Albanians in Yugoslvaia and try to prevent any mass killings of Albanians in Yugoslavia. But the Ottoman Government flat out rejected the thought of even aiding Albania in taking any lands from Yugoslavia by force. It warn Albanian to not do anything hash..
Amestria
28-09-2005, 02:36
In secret;
The issue is not aiding the Albanian State in taking Yugoslavian land. The issue is the Yugoslavian State attacking and deporting Ethnic Albanians in Kosovo. Could the Ottoman Empire send troops for peace-keeping or use it's influence with Russia to get it to do something.
OOC: Turkhan Pasha visted your country a year ago (I dident go into details because I was busy with school at the time). That may have smothed over attitudes.
Ottoman Khaif
28-09-2005, 02:42
In Serect
The Ottoman Government will see if can send peacekeepers to the region in the hopes of preventing a war between the two repected nations. We'll have to ask the Yugoslavia government on this matter,before we do anything.
Amestria
28-09-2005, 02:49
In secret;
Albania is not threatening war (nor has it the ablity to fight it). The conflict is between the Yugoslavian government and the people of Kosovo. The Albanian government is trying to rally support to stop the violence.
Ottoman Khaif
28-09-2005, 23:48
Mar 28, 1923
Ottoman Times
Here are the election results of the government elections. The Union and Progessive party(Young Turks) has lost a number of seats to the new Republican party(Kemelist). Also the Unionist and Reformist Party has gain a number of key seats, this party from Southern Turkey and Syria is gaining the support of the people of those regions. The Pan Islamic Party maintain their contral over the seats from Persia, Iraq and Arabia. Yet the Union and Progessive party still leads the Ottoman Government with a narrow lead. Here is the key leadership people to know
Sultan Mehmed VI
Grand Vizier Ahmed Tevfik Pasha (Pan Islamic Party)
President Mustafa Kemal Pasha( Republican Party)
Prime Minister Ismail Enver Pasha( Union and Progessive Party)
Amestria
29-09-2005, 01:34
TO: Sultan Mehmed VI
Grand Vizier Ahmed Tevfik Pasha
President Mustafa Kemal Pasha
Prime Minister Ismail Enver Pasha
The Albanian Government has not laid claim to any Yugoslavian territory. It advocated that the people of Kosovo be given a right to self determination by a free and fair vote. The Albanian Government supported peaceful protests and parties, it did not support armed groups which formed partly due to Serb abuse. Kosovo turned violent when Serbian terrorists and Yugoslavian police/soldiers attacked the demonstrators. The Albanian Government at no point called for Kosovo to revolt.
-President Fan S. Noli
Ottoman Khaif
29-09-2005, 01:44
To:President Fan S. Noli, Albanian Government
From: Foreign Minister Mehmed Talat Pasha
Then good sir, call upon these rebel groups that are know as the KLA..to put down their arms and call for peace and also crack down on arm shipments that are going thought your nation to these rebels. Secondly reach some kind of peace settlement with the Yugoslav Government. The Ottoman Government does not look at Albanian latest try to gain land thought using poxy rebellion as excuse to take then. If you want the land so badly, then fight for it then using poxies.
Amestria
29-09-2005, 21:03
To: Foreign Minister Mehmed Talat Pasha, Ottoman Government
From: President Fan S. Noli, Albanian Government
The rebellion was not called by the Albanian government. The KLA was formed in Kosovo and its extistence only became known to us after the violence began. Our government has recieved reports that the rebels who have fled into northern Albania currently number 15,000 or more. The KLA currently equals or out-numbers the Albanian Self Defense Army. If we were to move against them it could result in a return to civil war. The Turkish government blaming everything that is happening on a "plot" by the Albanian government shows how ignorant the said government is when it comes to the current Balkan situation.
Ottoman Khaif
29-09-2005, 23:55
April 12, 1923
Also here is a update on the reforms that are to be compete by 1928
1. The Ottoman Government will be improving the existing road and rail networks in Persia and Iraq.(90 percent compete)
2. The Government will build up the road and rail networks in the remote regions of the empire.( 87 percent compete)
3. The Government will be granting more loans to local companies to set up factories in Iraq and Persia.(compete)
4. The Telegraph network will be improve and make a wireless telegraph network.(Compete)
5. The State will build more schools in all the regions of the empire.( 90 percent compete)
6. The State will be building up all the deep ports up and improve the defenses.(80 percent compete)
7. The State will began improving the rail systems and industries of Ottoman- British Egypt.( 70 percent compete)
In Secret
With the arm force expansion set by Prime Minister Ismail Enver Pasha to be competed by 1926 at the latest, the 10 new divisions which were to added to the army core. Will made up of Armenians, Assyrians, Kurds, Arabs and Persians, the training of these new corps has already began…they will be battle ready by early to mid 1924. The Ottoman Army prime goal to draw the manpower of the other groups living the empire then to overstaining the Turkish people.
Lesser Ribena
30-09-2005, 17:33
UPDATE ON THE SITUATION IN AFGHANISTAN
(GB, the war mod, says it will be about a year before all rebels in the area are cleared out)
The British and Empire and allied forces in Afghanistan have moved onto phase two of their anti-rebel operations. Having cleared out the majority of Afghan rebels in the area they have begun to round up the remainder and also hunt down any which have escaped across the borders.
The tanks of the 1st regiment, 1st Independent Landship Brigade have achieved great success in chasing down the rebel infantry on open plains and over rough defence works, and have even faced light artillery successully. The local commander has desicrbed them as "remarkable machines, extremely useful for offensive engagements" and the government is likely to expand the 3 current brigades to at least 5 and to invest in developing new versions of the machines.
Other formations also fought well in the terrain, the motorcyclists, and armoured cars attached to brigades as scouts fought well in mixed groups with the motorcyclists acting as an infantry guard for the cars, leaving their bikes behind at a safe point guarded by a small detachment. It is expected that trial regiments consisting solely of troops mounted in such a manner will be established by the war office soon. Such regiments may also feature mounted infantry who excelled themselves in Afghanistan by hunting down and overunning rebel positions. The army is set to continue to hunt down rebels in Ottoman territory and has established a thick cordon on the Russian border to prevent rebels crossing it (in either direction).
The army is expected to begin rebel hunting operations in the Ottoman Empire by the middle of August (RL: Today).
Ottoman Khaif
01-10-2005, 22:36
Sept 17, 1923
Also here is a update on the reforms that are to be compete by 1928
1. The Ottoman Government will be improving the existing road and rail networks in Persia and Iraq.(95 percent compete)
2. The Government will build up the road and rail networks in the remote regions of the empire.( 89 percent compete)
3. The Government will be granting more loans to local companies to set up factories in Iraq and Persia.(compete)
4. The Telegraph network will be improve and make a wireless telegraph network.(Compete)
5. The State will build more schools in all the regions of the empire.( 90 percent compete)
6. The State will be building up all the deep ports up and improve the defenses.(82 percent compete)
7. The State will began improving the rail systems and industries of Ottoman- British Egypt.( 82 percent compete)
In Secret
The 10 new divisons are nearly battle ready and will soon assign to the many regions of the Empire..
Colombia is willing to send two to three divisions to the Ottoman Empire to help in keeping down the rebels. Our armed forces need some actual combat experience, if you would be so kind as to help out. We would also be sending two air recon groups as well.
Ottoman Khaif
02-10-2005, 00:50
Colombia is willing to send two to three divisions to the Ottoman Empire to help in keeping down the rebels. Our armed forces need some actual combat experience, if you would be so kind as to help out. We would also be sending two air recon groups as well.
OOC: There is no rebellion whatever going on in the Ottoman Empire at this time, yet what Britain is talking about is the Afghan rebels heading into Ottoman Persia. So I wouldn't mind if you send one division, that's about it.
ooc: Alright thats fine with me. I'll be sending loads of aircraft though... for experience.
Ottoman Khaif
02-10-2005, 01:01
ooc: Alright thats fine with me. I'll be sending loads of aircraft though... for experience.
OOC:Alright I have no problem with that..go ahead send in your planes..maybe our air cores can train together in this hunting of rebels?
ooc: Sure, it'll be a grand old time.
The Republic of Palesine has Dispatched 1 cavalry division along with it's attatched armored cars, and 1 Infantry division to assist the Ottomans and the British with the fighting in Afghanistan.
Ottoman Khaif
02-10-2005, 21:05
Dec 21, 1923
Also here is a update on the reforms that are to be compete by 1928
1. The Ottoman Government will be improving the existing road and rail networks in Persia and Iraq.( compete)
2. The Government will build up the road and rail networks in the remote regions of the empire.( 90 percent compete)
3. The Government will be granting more loans to local companies to set up factories in Iraq and Persia.(compete)
4. The Telegraph network will be improve and make a wireless telegraph network.(Compete)
5. The State will build more schools in all the regions of the empire.( compete)
6. The State will be building up all the deep ports up and improve the defenses.(86
percent compete)
7. The State will began improving the rail systems and industries of Ottoman- British Egypt.( 90 percent compete, also a number of Ottoman Companies have build six new factries in Egypt which are producing day to day goods that the people of Egypt need)
Lesser Ribena
03-10-2005, 16:40
Britain would be honoured to fight beside soldiers of the Colombian Army. At this very moment British troops are moving across the border in persuit of Afghan rebels who are fleeing into their territory. The Royal Flying Corps is leading the way and keeping track of most of the rebels whilst also shooting up some of the mobs. Extreme care is taken to avoid harming any Ottoman civilian or damaging any property and a firm confirmation of identity os made of any potential target. Armoured cars and tanks are also crossing the border alongside infantry, cavalry and artillery but the rugged and desert terrain makes progress slow. It is hoped that a link up with the Ottoman Army may be established soon and the rebels caught in an ever closing net.
Ottoman Khaif
03-10-2005, 23:22
The two army divisons that were assign to aid the British army in this hunt for rebels, have link up with the British units and now aiding the British in this hunt.
Ottoman Khaif
05-10-2005, 01:23
Feb 17, 1924
Also here is a update on the reforms that are to be compete by 1928
1. The Ottoman Government will be improving the existing road and rail networks in Persia and Iraq.( compete)
2. The Government will build up the road and rail networks in the remote regions of the empire.( compete)
3. The Government will be granting more loans to local companies to set up factories in Iraq and Persia.(compete)
4. The Telegraph network will be improve and make a wireless telegraph network.(Compete)
5. The State will build more schools in all the regions of the empire.( compete)
6. The State will be building up all the deep ports up and improve the defenses.(90 percent compete)
7. The State will began improving the rail systems and industries of Ottoman- British Egypt.( 92 percent compete)
[NS]Parthini
05-10-2005, 02:50
OOC: Doh! I forgot what I was going to build for you... But I agree to build it for you...
Ottoman Khaif
05-10-2005, 03:15
Parthini']OOC: Doh! I forgot what I was going to build for you... But I agree to build it for you...
OOC: You said that your were going to build up my rail roads and schools..remember?
Ottoman Khaif
06-10-2005, 23:55
Ottoman Times
May/June ,1924
The Ottoman Government has declare it will not enter the war against the Americans and their allies. Yet after a high level meeting of which had Sultan Mehmed VI,Grand Vizier Ahmed Tevfik Pasha ,President Mustafa Kemal Pasha
and Prime Minister Ismail Enver Pasha in it, the Ottoman Government has order the Ottoman General Staff to have the entire Ottoman Army on wartime standing, with that order issues...all Army Reservist cores to be call up and join the standing army in the defense of the Khailfah, to make sure no one attacks the empire in this war. The Ottoman Navy has been order to patol Ottoman waters to make sure that no one in the waring powers enters Ottoman waters or trade lanes. Yet do to a existing treaty with the Russians, only their fleet is allow to go though Ottoman waters. Also the Ottoman Government will be handing out loans and selling oil to whoever wishs to buy it to fuel their machines of war.
In other new some kind of sickness has been report in Ottoman Persia, it as cause a number of deaths in far eastern areas of Ottoman Persia, local Doctors have stated its nothing to be worry about.
Ottoman Khaif
08-10-2005, 00:59
Ottoman Times, Sept/Nov
Also here is a update on the reforms that are to be compete by 1928, the Ottoman Government has stated that these programs will be compete three years early and will be finnish by late 1925
1. The Ottoman Government will be improving the existing road and rail networks in Persia and Iraq.( compete)
2. The Government will build up the road and rail networks in the remote regions of the empire.( compete)
3. The Government will be granting more loans to local companies to set up factories in Iraq and Persia.(compete)
4. The Telegraph network will be improve and make a wireless telegraph network.(Compete)
5. The State will build more schools in all the regions of the empire.( compete)
6. The State will be building up all the deep ports up and improve the defenses.(95 percent compete)
7. The State will began improving the rail systems and industries of Ottoman- British Egypt.( 96 percent compete)
Ottoman Khaif
09-10-2005, 17:51
Ottoman Update(not a new report)
The Ottoman Governemnt is quietly ordering all the regional factories to began building up on wartime goods, such as extra weapons, and ammo. The Ottoman General Staff, as began stock piling of ammo and weapons in arm deports in key regions thought out the Empire. For the garrisons in Arabia, the Ottoman Goverment has been sending extra supplies to keep those garrisons , to insure they can hold off a massive attack intill more troops could come in. Also the Ottoman General Staff has began naming each regional army core as the following, Army of Turkey, Army of Syria, Army of Persia, Army of Iraq, and Army of Arabia. Each regional army core was being supply with the latest arms and ammo. They were told to began stock piling of a need goods to hold off a attack on the region.
Ottoman Khaif
11-10-2005, 00:40
Ottoman Times(This is after the influanza outbreak)
Ottoman Government has pass a series of act to impove the national healthcare system of the nation. The Government has incease funding for building of new medical centers thoughtout the empire in the hopes of impoving the health of the people, this healthcare system will low cost and easy for the poor to get access to their medical needs.
Of the council of clan
12-10-2005, 03:37
The Japanese Empire is very interested in purchasing oil from the Ottoman govenrment to fuel our nation.
Ottoman Khaif
12-10-2005, 03:38
The Japanese Empire is very interested in purchasing oil from the Ottoman govenrment to fuel our nation.
The Ottoman Government will not stop selling oil to the Empire of Japan, just kept paiding up and we'll supply as much oil as you need.
Of the council of clan
12-10-2005, 03:47
Will the Ottoman Govenrment use its own tankers to ship to Japanese Ports
We will pay extra for this.
Galveston Bay
12-10-2005, 04:59
at this point Japan you don't need Persian Gulf oil.. there is more than the US can use coming out of California and a lot of oil coming out of the Dutch East Indies.... if the Dutch stop selling us oil the LTA will take over the Dutch East Indies
at this point Japan you don't need Persian Gulf oil.. there is more than the US can use coming out of California and a lot of oil coming out of the Dutch East Indies.... if the Dutch stop selling us oil the LTA will take over the Dutch East Indies
I need to challenge this as well.
I know the US does have oil, but mostly in Texas and in Alaska. The Gulf as well but the offshore oil platforms won't start operation for a while, as I don't see the tech level being advanced enough for them. To drill offshore, you'd need computers and good mapping technologies like radar, sonar, or the like. Probably 1950's onwards.
Oil in California? Thats a new one- I have never heard of oil in California being more than Texas or Alaska. If you mean offshore, then that will have to wait until 1950's onwards.
Ottoman Khaif
12-10-2005, 05:22
I need to challenge this as well.
I know the US does have oil, but mostly in Texas and in Alaska. The Gulf as well but the offshore oil platforms won't start operation for a while, as I don't see the tech level being advanced enough for them. To drill offshore, you'd need computers and good mapping technologies like radar, sonar, or the like. Probably 1950's onwards.
Oil in California? Thats a new one- I have never heard of oil in California being more than Texas or Alaska. If you mean offshore, then that will have to wait until 1950's onwards.
OOC: California did have alot of Oil back in the early 1900s, but now in 2000s its not that much. so yeah GB is right here, California does have alot of oil around this time period. Trust me I live in CA, i should know this stuff..
I formally withdraw my objection regarding Californian oil. Ottoman Khaif has provided me with evidence.
http://www.sjgs.com/gushers.html
Ottoman Khaif
15-10-2005, 03:37
The Act of Union
The Ottoman Empire and The Republic of Palestine have sign a series of agreements to step towards to complete union and form a new nation know as the Middle Eastern Union, which will be formed by 1932. Here is a set of goals to be competing by these dates for the act of union.
1. The uniting of the armies of Palestine and the Ottoman Empire by the year 1928, by that dates the new command and headquarters for the Arm forces of the Middle Eastern Union will be in Damascus.
2. The uniting meager of the governments of both nations to make one united government, with Prime Minister and President as the elected rulers of the new union nation. The Prime Minister will be the head of the Parliament and President will be the head of the Senate of the Union. The seat of the central government will be in Ankara. Also the Sultan will be as figurehead, with the powers to call for Jihads and other matters related to office of Sultan, the Office of Sultan will remain in Istanbul. This will be done by 1931.
Ottoman Khaif
31-10-2005, 05:42
Ottoman Times
Dec. 12,1925
The Ottoman Government will be building a new shipyard at Izmir, it will be compete by early 1927. The shipyard will be build to handle 50,000 tons, and later on will be expand to handle 100,000 tons..Just taking one step in Government dream of rebuilding Ottoman Naval Might over the seas and ending the depends on outside ships to protect the State.
Ottoman Khaif
03-11-2005, 02:30
Ottoman Times
Jan. 10,1926
The Ottoman Government has pass a series of reforms to help impove the nation.
1.The Ottoman Government will do these economic concepts such as profit-sharing for industrial workers and initiated massive government-financed heavy industry projects to help impove the nation industrial might.
2. The Ottoman Government has pass a series of lands reforms for Ottoman ruled Persia. Which will break up the fedul estates and allow nearly 90 percent of Persian Share-croppers to become land owners.(This was made to disband the power of the powerful Shi'ite clergy and to take away their lands.)
3.More money will send to fund education, especially in the rural areas,
4.Literacy Corps will be established, which will allow young men to fulfill their compulsory military service by working as village literacy teachers.
OOC: this is base of Iranian White Revolution reforms.
Ottoman Khaif
06-11-2005, 19:35
April 12,1926
Ottoman Times
Today is a great day for the Khailfah, after much heavy debate between the Ottoman and Palestine goverments, both governments see its best in their interest to become once again. They have agree to enact the act of union early, just making the nations of the Ottoman Empire and Palestine one once again, and forming the Middle Eastern Union. The Sultan has appoint most of the governments officals from Palestine to many key posts in the Ottoman Goverments, to help in reuniting. Once again the Khailfah is one and united under one banner.
The Palestinian government signs the act, stating that this will allow for a greater and more stable Middle East in the future.
OC: This will be my last act as the player of Palestine. I now play Rumania.
Ottoman Khaif
07-11-2005, 00:10
Treaty of Antioch
I. An Invasion of the Middle Eastern Union or The Empire of Japan shall be considered an attack and invasion of both nations.
II. Increased trade between the Empire of Nippon and Middle Eastern Union, Primarily Oil for Armaments and Finished Industrial Products
III. This alliance supercedes any previously signed alliance the Empire of Nippon and the Middle Eastern Union has signed
IV. The establishment of an IJN Arabian Sea Squadron with a naval base in Southern Iran, to protect Nipponese and Middle Eastern Sea trade
V. The induction of Turkish naval officers to the Imperial Japanese Naval Academy after having learned Japanese, followed by 2-4 years service in the IJN before returning to the Turkish Navy to spread their experience
VI. the Establishment of a Naval Training center for the Turkish Navy for their Enlisted personnell somewhere near the home port of the Japanese Arabian Squadron
VII. The use of Turkish production points to produce in Imperial Japanese Naval yards a force of two Fleet Carriers, and 3 light carriers with one Training Carrier for the Turkish Navy
VIII. Japanese Aid in construction of two Turkish Shipyards in Asia Minor
IX. Encouragement from both Governments for Private Enterprises to invest in each others nations to further both Nations Economies
X. This treaty is to last for a duration of 8 years and at that time both nations will be able to consider whether they would like to renew or renegotiate the Above treaty
Ottoman Khaif
07-11-2005, 06:22
Another series of reforms have passed by the Ottoman Government as of spring of 1926
Act I.Affirmative action programs will be in place to provide equal education for all the people of the Khailfah.
Act II. The Ottoman Goverment is now encouraging internal migration of Turks to move to in Iraq, Arabia, Syria and Persia and like wise for Arabs, Kurds, Persians ,Assyians and Armenians.
Act III. Establish a comprehensive welfare state
Act IV. The Imperial Government will incease programs build schools, hospitals, and roads thoughtout the Empire in the hopes of impoving the lives of the people.
Act V. Workters will now have bill of rights,and the right to form unions.
Ottoman Khaif
09-11-2005, 00:56
Ottoman Times
March 28, 1926
Sultan Abdul Mejid II, has appoint an Arab by the name of Abdullah bin Husayn to the post of Grand Vizer. The Sultan states we must impove the unity of the Khailfah and by allowing our Arab brothers to take a more active role in the affairs of the state as whole.
ooc: Here is the low down for the Ottoman Government for fyi
The Sultan is Abdul Mejid II(Turk)
The Grand Vizer is Abdullah bin Husayn (Arab)
President of the Senate is Mustafa Kemal( Turk)
The Prime Minister is Mustafa İsmet İnönü (Kurdish)
Ottoman Khaif
09-11-2005, 03:17
Ottoman Army reforms as of 1926
Ismail Enver Pasha has been appoint by the Sultan as the Head General of all Ottoman Arm forces, General Enver Pasha as began these reforms for the arm forces
Each divison of the Imperial Ottoman Army will be made up the following
1.The formation of 20,000 men to have 9 battalions of infantry, 4 battalions of artillery, plus a machine gun and armored car battalion, and a strength of 20,000 men.
2. More Trucks to given all infantry divisons so that they will become motorized infantry
3. More heavier weaponry to the platoon and battalion levels, and AT tank weaponry
Ottoman Khaif
12-11-2005, 20:52
Ottoman Times
Nov 12, 1926
The Ottoman Government as called a major Constitutional Convention to rewrite the Imperial Constiution of the Empire,and also do much needed reforms to the system. The Convention is taking place between close doors and we will find out the outcome of the convention before the end of the year. High ranking officals and regional officals from all over the empire are playing a key role in convention to deal with the future of the empire.
Ottoman Khaif
14-11-2005, 05:25
Middle Eastern Times
Jan 14, 1927
The result of the Constitutional Convention, was the complete change of the Ottoman State, a vote was called remain as the Ottoman State or formed a new state. They voted in favor of disbanding the Ottoman Empire and forming a new union known as the Islamic Federation of the Middle Eastern Union. The MEU( Middle Eastern Union) Constitutional was base off the Constitution of Imperial Germany. The office of Sultan (Aka Khaif) will be remaining, yet will be now a figurehead with some reserved powers. Yet the National Government will be now base in Damascus, as the new seat of Government, yet the Office of Sultan will be remain for now in Istanbul. Each region will be grant self government similar to USDR system. Here are the following regions of the Federation
1.Bilid al Sham( Syria, TransJordan, and Lebanon)-Damascus
2.Kurdistan-Mosul
3.Persia aka Iran-Tehran
4. Turkey-Ankara
5. The MEU joint ruler ship of Egypt-Cairo
6. Arabia-Riyadh
7.Iraq-Baghdad
Also the new Government will be still honoring all existing treaties the old Ottoman State has sign. Also the Osmani Sultan will be allow to live out his life term as Sultan, and when he died..the Islamic scholars will elect a new Sultan from the listed of officials that have been approve by the Government. The current leadership of the then Ottoman State will still in leading the MEU intill their terms are up and up for elections for new officals.Also the state language will be Arabic, Turkish, Persian and Kurdish.
Abbassia
22-11-2005, 12:22
To:Middle Eastern Union
From:Islamic Republic of Algeria
May the peace, the mercy and the blessings of God be upon you,
We welcome your offer warmly, for we are brothers in faith, culture, history, languege, tradition and much else, would it not be strange if we do not form such a bond?? With the ties of cooperation, friendship and I daresay brotherhood between our two nations we would strive for everlasting prosperaty for our nations which will endure through the ages.
I am looking forward to go on pilgrimage to Mecca soon, for the first time Algerians will be able to go on pilgrimage without worrying about the colonial government
May the peace, the mercy and the blessings of God be upon you,
Khalid ibn Hashim
Ottoman Khaif
22-11-2005, 23:51
To:Algeria
From:Middle Eastern Union
We wish your pilgrimage to Mecca, will go well..We are please to send another Islamic state arising in the world. We wish to send advisers to help train your arm forces and impove the relationship between our two states.
Abbassia
25-11-2005, 18:08
We thank our brothers and hope to return this great generosity in the future.
Vas Pokhoronim
01-12-2005, 14:30
Foreign Aid in 1933 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10018066&postcount=307).
Independent Macedonia
05-12-2005, 05:30
To bring about greater ties between the MEU and Jugoslavija militaries, the 1st and 2nd Mechanized korps and being sent to do wargames with the MEU military. General Julije Fritz was quoted as saying,
"The desert is one of the few places that we haven't trained to operate, though our vehicles can be fitted with sand filters and other gear to make them operate better in the desert, they are only as good as their crew, and so we must have our crews able to operate at their best in all conditions! We are glad to have such good relations with the MEU as to be able to train with them."
Also, this is the first time many of the troops have been outside of Yugoslavia, and for those that weren't in the 2nd Great war, this is their first taste of warfare(or at least something close) outside of Yugoslavia. The members of the Jugoslavija training corp are finding that the desert is perfect terrain for tank combat, but not for tank maintence, hopefully with further time spent in the desert with their MEU comrades, they will reach optimum levels of proficiency.
Ottoman Khaif
05-12-2005, 05:37
The MEU General Staff has state the war games between the MEU 4th Mech Inf and Yugoslavia units in TransJordan, the area is mostly made of sands and rough terrian a perfect area for training of our forces.
Ottoman Khaif
07-12-2005, 01:36
Middle Eastern Times
Mar.14,1934
Today is a sad day for the people of the Union of the Middle East, today we lose a great general and reforms of the then Ottoman and now MEU state, Retire Head of the MEU General Staff, Enver Pasha has died at age 53 year olds, do an heart attack. Today we mourn the lost of one of our great reformers, who help reoganize the Arm Forces of the Khailfah and help rebuild and reform the Khailfah after the first great war.President Mustafa Kemal Pasha has stated that
"We lost one of the few people who belive in the Ottoman State during her time of defeat and near break up and thanks to him, we still stand today together and ever more united in the cause of uniting our brothers under one banner of Islam."
Independent Macedonia
07-12-2005, 01:39
Tito sends his condolences to the MEU, and the 1st and 2nd Mechanizied corps observe a moment of silence on March 14th in rememberence of a hero of Yugoslavia's allie. May god, in every form, bless his soul.
Vas Pokhoronim
07-12-2005, 01:41
Middle Eastern Times
Mar.14,1934
Today is a say day for the people of the Union of the Middle East, today we lose a great general and reforms of the then Ottoman and now MEU state, Retire Head of the MEU General Staff, Enver Pasha has died at age 53 year olds, do an heart attack. Today we mourn the lost of one of our great reformers, who help reoganize the Arm Forces of the Khailfah and help rebuild and reform the Khailfah after the first great war.President Mustafa Kemal Pasha has stated that
"We lost one of the few people who belive in the Ottoman State during her time of defeat and near break up and thanks to him, we still stand today together and ever more united in the cause of uniting our brothers under one banner of Islam."
Vice-President Kirov will represent the Union at the funeral.
The Lightning Star
09-12-2005, 18:17
Foreign Minister Nehru will attend the funeral.
Ottoman Khaif
11-12-2005, 23:22
Middle Eastern Times
Dec.16, 1934
The MEU government in Damascus has pass series of reforms for the Union as whole. The Union Government has decided to begin decentralization of the Union Government. Each union state will be allow electing their governors and elected their own regional parliaments. The main goal of the Union Government is to allow the union states more say over their own affairs and easy the workload for the central government. Also the Central Government of the Union will have Senate and Parliament has it two elected bodies. The Senate wills 100 senators that are elected by popular vote very six years and the Ministers of Parliaments will be elected by popular vote very four years, they have 400 seats for Parliament. The Prime Minister will head the Parliament and his term is four years and unlimited terms and the President is head of the Senate, his term is six years and unlimited terms.
There is heavy debate in Parliament, to move the Office of Sultan from Istanbul to Damascus, the debate is still going most of the Ministers have stated after this Sultan died or step downs, the new Sultan will take up office in Damascus and move the office of Sultan from Istanbul for good. Yet Debate is still on going.
Ottoman Khaif
13-12-2005, 01:07
Middle Eastern Times
Jan.14, 1935
The Union Government , has passed that set an policy to the adoption of international calendar, hours and measurement in order for MEU to move on in the future to a better state. Also the Union Government , has pass an act of abolition of titles and by-names and Law on family names, which was support by President Mustafa Kemal and Prime Minister Mustafa İsmet İnönü and their party the Republicans, plus the leader of the opposition leader of Socailist party Dr. Mohammed Mossadegh has give them their backing on this issue. Just out voting the Pan Islamicist on the issue.
Vas Pokhoronim
19-12-2005, 06:06
A Democracy-class aircraft carrier, with a full complement of war-planes, will be ready for delivery to the MEU in the Spring of 1936.
- Kazimierz Świtalski, Union Minister for Defense
Ottoman Khaif
19-12-2005, 06:37
A Democracy-class aircraft carrier, with a full complement of war-planes, will be ready for delivery to the MEU in the Spring of 1936.
- Kazimierz Świtalski, Union Minister for Defense
The MEU thanks the Soviet Union for building the MEU a carrier so that we can defend ourselves from theat of attack from Sea. We thank our allies for their aid in helping us build up our fleet.
The French are now providing military advisors and trainers to the Ottoman military to teach them new tactics and modern doctrines.
Galveston Bay
19-12-2005, 07:17
The French are now providing military advisors and trainers to the Ottoman military to teach them new tactics and modern doctrines.
ooc
need numbers... several hundred or several thousand? Or more? It makes a really important difference. To really make a difference, need at least 5 for every regiment (2500 men) in the Turkish Army. Also some advisors for the Turkish Air Force would be very useful as well.
ooc
need numbers... several hundred or several thousand? Or more? It makes a really important difference. To really make a difference, need at least 5 for every regiment (2500 men) in the Turkish Army. Also some advisors for the Turkish Air Force would be very useful as well.
As the French are currently at peace and have a bunch of reservists sitting around with very little to do, so it's about 4,500 men, mostly NCOs and officers who are veterans of both the The Second Great War and the more recent Chinese War. About 150 advisors from the French Armee d'Air are also provided.
[OOC: How bg is the Turkish army? If I knew that, it would help.]
Galveston Bay
19-12-2005, 07:33
As the French are currently at peace and have a bunch of reservists sitting around with very little to do, so it's about 4,500 men, mostly NCOs and officers who are veterans of both the The Second Great War and the more recent Chinese War. About 150 advisors from the French Armee d'Air are also provided.
[OOC: How bg is the Turkish army? If I knew that, it would help.]
Turkish Military
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10115718&postcount=855
Turkish Military
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10115718&postcount=855
Alright, thanks.
The number is now 1200 men (10 men for every 2500 men in the active army), plus 60 men for the airforce. A mechanized division, along with a tank brigade, is sent along so that the MEU military can do some wargaming with them.
The total is 1260 "trainers" and advisors, plus the 10,000 men and 360 tanks of the 12th Mechanized Infantry Divison.
The Republic is, of course, expecting some recompense for the cost of moving an entire division, plus it's support personell. (Say, one production point in 1937?)
OOC:
Hate to thread hjack here, but I was wondering if China could also employ French training, tactics, and advisors so that Japan will not overwhelm China the next time Japan invaded (which I'm sure they'll do).
Ottoman Khaif
20-12-2005, 03:11
Alright, thanks.
The number is now 1200 men (10 men for every 2500 men in the active army), plus 60 men for the airforce. A mechanized division, along with a tank brigade, is sent along so that the MEU military can do some wargaming with them.
The total is 1260 "trainers" and advisors, plus the 10,000 men and 360 tanks of the 12th Mechanized Infantry Divison.
The Republic is, of course, expecting some recompense for the cost of moving an entire division, plus it's support personell. (Say, one production point in 1937?)
The MEU government will pay for French sending all this aid with large sum of funds( I'll pay you in 1937, one point)
Galveston Bay
20-12-2005, 04:59
In Arabia, members of the House of Saud beginning secretly meeting to discuss their long term vision of the future of Arabia. In Egypt the meetings are more open and discussions are regarding the elimination of both the British and Turkish presence in their ancient land.
Ottoman Khaif
20-12-2005, 05:11
In Arabia, members of the House of Saud beginning secretly meeting to discuss their long term vision of the future of Arabia. In Egypt the meetings are more open and discussions are regarding the elimination of both the British and Turkish presence in their ancient land.
OOC: Would it be better if the MEU decides to leave Egypt and allow the locals decide their future, to see if they want to join the MEU or be their own state. Also as for the Saudi plotting against MEU rule over Arabia, what are the odds that MEU intel agents getting wind of this plot?
Galveston Bay
20-12-2005, 05:29
OOC: Would it be better if the MEU decides to leave Egypt and allow the locals decide their future, to see if they want to join the MEU or be their own state. Also as for the Saudi plotting against MEU rule over Arabia, what are the odds that MEU intel agents getting wind of this plot?
ooc
its early yet for either to reach the ears of intelligence, but eventually it will. Nothing major will happen this year, unless something really bigs happens in or to the MEU.
Ottoman Khaif
21-12-2005, 19:44
In Secret
The MEU government starts making contact with number of family clans in MEU Arabia, such as the Al-Rashid family, the rivals of the House of Saudi in Nejd and the MEU government offers the Al-Rashid family lands and richs if they were to stay loyal to MEU government in case of rebellion lead by their rivals the Saudi. Also the MEU set up a number of contacts in the region to keep an eye on the House of Saudi, to see what their up to. Also in Hejaz, the MEU government sends out word to Hashemite clan, that do their loyal support of the government, they will reward more posts in the regional Arabian government and also be given annual income from the Government itself, if they were to remain loyal to MEU government in times of rebellion.
OOC: What I am doing is pinning the Arabian clans against eachother, to make so that Saudi don't get total contral of the region, they have to fight archrivals before they could stand against the MEU in united effort.
Galveston Bay
21-12-2005, 19:56
In Secret
The MEU government starts making contact with number of family clans in MEU Arabia, such as the Al-Rashid family, the rivals of the House of Saudi in Nejd and the MEU government offers the Al-Rashid family lands and richs if they were to stay loyal to MEU government in case of rebellion lead by their rivals the Saudi. Also the MEU set up a number of contacts in the region to keep an eye on the House of Saudi, to see what their up to. Also in Hejaz, the MEU government sends out word to Hashemite clan, that do their loyal support of the government, they will reward more posts in the regional Arabian government and also be given annual income from the Government itself, if they were to remain loyal to MEU government in times of rebellion.
OOC: What I am doing is pinning the Arabian clans against eachother, to make so that Saudi don't get total contral of the region, they have to fight archrivals before they could stand against the MEU in united effort.
ooc
I will keep this in mind. By the way, oil in exploratory amounts has now been found in the UAE and Saudi Arabia. Prices are too cheap to make development worthwhile yet, but the Big 6 Western Oil Companies are talking to the Turkish government about future deals.
Ottoman Khaif
21-12-2005, 20:11
ooc
I will keep this in mind. By the way, oil in exploratory amounts has now been found in the UAE and Saudi Arabia. Prices are too cheap to make development worthwhile yet, but the Big 6 Western Oil Companies are talking to the Turkish government about future deals.
OOC:
The MEU government would allow the Big 6 Western Oil Companies to set up shop so to speak in Arabia under the terms that, the MEU govt has about 50 percent in the shares of these companies branches that would exist in the MEU and also everything has to be 50/50. For the MEU govt to allow these companies in their lands.
Galveston Bay
21-12-2005, 20:41
OOC:
The MEU government would allow the Big 6 Western Oil Companies to set up shop so to speak in Arabia under the terms that, the MEU govt has about 50 percent in the shares of these companies branches that would exist in the MEU and also everything has to be 50/50. For the MEU govt to allow these companies in their lands.
they agree... expect to start getting production points out of Arabia and the UAE about 1950, possibly sooner (as early as 1942)... depends on world events
ooc: Is the Treaty of Antioch (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9893501&postcount=59) still in effect?
IC:
Several Japanese buisness men approach the MEU government about creating a joint Oil Company. Shares would be split evenly between the MEU and Japanese government.
Ottoman Khaif
22-12-2005, 00:23
ooc: Is the Treaty of Antioch (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9893501&postcount=59) still in effect?
IC:
Several Japanese buisness men approach the MEU government about creating a joint Oil Company. Shares would be split evenly between the MEU and Japanese government.
OOC: That treaty has to renewed for another eight years, and the MEU government is willing to renewed the treaty once again.
IC: The MEU Government welcomes the Japanese companies idea of creating a joint oil company and agrees to allow the Japanese to set up shop in the MEU.
OOC: Oi,
I got American Oil Companies in Arabia, British-MEU oil companies in Iraq and Iran. ..and now the Japanese wanting in...how many more people want in the oil market..I wonder is who next..