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Maineiacs
22-07-2005, 17:07
Eh? I sure am glad he isn't God!

No, I'm God here on earth NA. Think about it. I'm inaccessible half the time. I make decisions that make no sense and piss people off, I sit in judgement over life and death, and I won't accept debate. If that's not God, I don't know what is. :gundge: :D
Maineiacs
22-07-2005, 17:09
*decides to check BY's link*

AHHHHHHHHH!!!! My Brain!!!!!!!
Defuniak
22-07-2005, 17:10
OOC: Which part, specifically? Although I will concede that twelve cups of coffee in one morning might be a little extreme.


That, and the fact that you're building a supergun that will destroy battleships in one shot, and shoots uranium, and well, that's just unrealistic. That might turn out to be a godmod cold war.


*Sips Cup of coffee*
Beautiful Yalaluxurios
22-07-2005, 17:23
*decides to check BY's link*

AHHHHHHHHH!!!! My Brain!!!!!!!

BRAAAAAAAAINS!!!!!!!!!

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Anyways, heres the updated and edited map, enjoy:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13/YalaNS/WorldJPG.jpg
Beautiful Yalaluxurios
22-07-2005, 17:42
where is Teymor, I need to talk with him
Basque Spain
22-07-2005, 18:24
OOC: I want some of your territory!


IC: An official communique to the leader of Basque Spain:


To whom it may concern,

The Armed Republic of the 501st Legion knows of your interest in giving up some of your territory. In the event that they are indeed given up, President Ayanami has made a proposition for you. We are prepared and willing to give the following items in exchange for the territories of the Philippines, Malaysia, Singapore, Brunei, and Indonesia:

$500 million USD
125 Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-25 Foxbats
75 Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-29 Fulcrums
50 Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-31 Foxhounds
200 Mil Mi-24 Hinds
125 Sukhoi Su-24 Fencers
75 Sukhoi Su-27 Flankers
5 Tupolev Tu-160 Blackjacks
1 Nimitz-class aircraft carrier
2 Ticonderoga-class guided missile cruisers
5 Arleigh Burke-class guided missile destroyers
2 Spruance-class destroyers
5 Oliver Hazard Perry-class frigates
5 Los Angeles-class attack submarines
1 Sacramento-class combat logistics ship
1 Supply-class combat logistics ship
It is our belief that the combined net worth of the cash and the offered military hardware is more than enough compensation for the loss of your territories. You will be allowed to keep Papua New Guinea, western Australia, and any other territories you may possess. That is all. Thank you for considering this offer.

Signed,

Rei Langley Ikari
Secretary of State of the Armed Republic of the 501st Legion


I had heard that someone had taken my territory and i wanted to know wjho it was the only territory that i gave up was the bit that BY bought from me, i don't want o give up any more territory.

I claimSomalia, Sudan, Rwanda, Birundi and Mozambique as East Basque Africa, and Martinique, Mali and Senegal make West Basque Africa
Joseph Seal
22-07-2005, 18:35
I had heard that someone had taken my territory and i wanted to know wjho it was the only territory that i gave up was the bit that BY bought from me, i don't want o give up any more territory.

I claimSomalia, Sudan, Rwanda, Birundi and Mozambique as East Basque Africa, and Martinique, Mali and Senegal make West Basque Africa
Sorry. But you can't do that. Those territories are in control of Beautiful Yalaluxios. You cannot make anymore claims.
Basque Spain
22-07-2005, 18:42
ok
Basque Spain
22-07-2005, 18:43
why is my peice of spain that i dealed for not on the map, it is my home territory
Beautiful Yalaluxurios
22-07-2005, 19:15
we decided we couldn't do it, remember
Wasted Genius
22-07-2005, 20:07
That, and the fact that you're building a supergun that will destroy battleships in one shot, and shoots uranium, and well, that's just unrealistic. That might turn out to be a godmod cold war.


*Sips Cup of coffee*

OOC: Hmm, I think something might have gotten lost in translation here.

Superguns are an unfortunate fact of RL. I don't endorse the guy who was working on them or the tyrannical dictator who sponsored the work, but take a look:

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/iraq/other/supergun.htm

Apparently the US military thought it was a feasible technology, because they searched Iraq pretty thoroughly for evidence of its existence.

In the roleplay I don't think anybody talked about destroying a battleship in a single shot. I believe the idea is that the gun could penetrate the armor of a large military ship. Again, this might be feasible if you could get a heavy enough projectile moving fast enough at the point of impact. Potential losses would depend on the actual roleplay that the weapon was used in. A responsible player would account for factors like misses, off-target hits, misfires, the fact that it hasn't been battle tested, etc.

Next, DU is a pretty common item; here's a reference that explains it in detail:

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/du.htm

Currently, DU (depleted uranium) is used as the sabot (projectile) in M1 tank ammunition. The reason for this is that it is very dense and releases a very large and concentrated amount of (kinectic?) energy on impact.

As for the generalized cold war assertion, that seems like a "kettle-black" kind of argument. Who was it that launched a blitzkrieg on Charyania? Where did that lead? (Hint: Formation of the American League and defensiveness throughout many other nations.)

As far as Wasted Genius is concerned, I'd rather engage in diplomacy and trade, which I hope to develop as the roleplay unfolds *slaps self for procrastinating again* I think it makes sense that if I don't particularly want to do the war thing, I'd try to acquire some easily manageble, high-yeild technologies.

Have a good one!

Oy vey! Time for a cup o' java!!!
Maineiacs
22-07-2005, 21:13
OOC commands from on high

Basque: you can't simply claim those lands, if you want them you'll have to buy them or conquer them. MoPo, South Pacific, and Tichang have not shown up, and today is the deadline, so I declare their lands free for the taking. ALL PREVIOUS CLAIMS ON THESE LANDS ARE NULL AND VOID! DON'T ARGUE THIS POINT! The claiming starts now. Baasque, you get first dibs.

WG: good point about the supergun and DU. I would think R&D would be a bitch, though. Anyone who wants one will have to RP R&D. You can'rt simply pull one out of your ass. (that'd probably hurt, anyway). I also agree with you on RP'ing diplomacy. So (IC) The Free Land of Maineiacs wishes to extend to Wasted Genius the opportunity to open fully diplomatic relations, inclunding embassy exchange, and negotiating a trade agreement..

OOC again: Would you all please stop bickering and let me role play?
Halberdgardia
22-07-2005, 21:17
OOC: May I join this Earth? I've been looking for one to get in to, and I see my ally Joseph Seal's here, so that ought to make things fun. Perhaps I could make a claim on some of the lands you recently freed up, after the others have chosen their claims?
Maineiacs
22-07-2005, 21:21
I'll let you in. Welcome. As I stated Basque Spain gets first claim, then you can go. Feel free to read this thread to get a feel for things. And feel free to move to our NS region. Basque, you too.

BTW: Truitt is still around, roght?
Truitt
22-07-2005, 21:29
Yes I am, I just have been buisy with some OOC stuff. Anything I miss?
Truitt
22-07-2005, 21:47
And on an OOC note, Tichang's claims look mighty good now if he has not posted in a while. (BY and JS, well, their size is making me paranoid, so I need more fall-back land)

lol
Beautiful Yalaluxurios
22-07-2005, 21:49
Truitt, want to Ally?

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Assuming BS takes South Pacific, I want Mo-Po
Maineiacs
22-07-2005, 22:33
Basque spain and our new player get first choice, but I can make sure something is left for Truitt.
MHDP
22-07-2005, 23:36
OOC: Hmm, I think something might have gotten lost in translation here.

Superguns are an unfortunate fact of RL. I don't endorse the guy who was working on them or the tyrannical dictator who sponsored the work, but take a look:

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/iraq/other/supergun.htm

Apparently the US military thought it was a feasible technology, because they searched Iraq pretty thoroughly for evidence of its existence.

In the roleplay I don't think anybody talked about destroying a battleship in a single shot. I believe the idea is that the gun could penetrate the armor of a large military ship. Again, this might be feasible if you could get a heavy enough projectile moving fast enough at the point of impact. Potential losses would depend on the actual roleplay that the weapon was used in. A responsible player would account for factors like misses, off-target hits, misfires, the fact that it hasn't been battle tested, etc.

Next, DU is a pretty common item; here's a reference that explains it in detail:

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/du.htm

Currently, DU (depleted uranium) is used as the sabot (projectile) in M1 tank ammunition. The reason for this is that it is very dense and releases a very large and concentrated amount of (kinectic?) energy on impact.

As for the generalized cold war assertion, that seems like a "kettle-black" kind of argument. Who was it that launched a blitzkrieg on Charyania? Where did that lead? (Hint: Formation of the American League and defensiveness throughout many other nations.)

As far as Wasted Genius is concerned, I'd rather engage in diplomacy and trade, which I hope to develop as the roleplay unfolds *slaps self for procrastinating again* I think it makes sense that if I don't particularly want to do the war thing, I'd try to acquire some easily manageble, high-yeild technologies.

Have a good one!

Oy vey! Time for a cup o' java!!!


OOC: Upon firing such a weapon they would have to shut the gun down for a good while so the barrel could be replaced and the firing mechanisms repaired. I think the explosive force behind the shell could easily destroy the machinery that's being used to fire the gun. But yeah, it's simply a kinetic energy weapon.

IC: So my solution is to build expendible transports and firing mechanisms. The first tests of this weapon should come out shortly, however the executive committee is seriously questioning the effectiveness of such a weapon. In other news, tests of the new 'SuperRotor' class helicopter show that a problem with the shaft have lead to several accidents on startup and in midflight, such as individual blades sheering off in flight or on the ground, which unfortunately lead to at least one death.

Markus Dietz,
President of the MHDP
Maineiacs
23-07-2005, 00:25
MHDP: I'm interested in purchasing your American territoy. Read back a couple of pages to see my offer.
Defuniak
23-07-2005, 01:26
OOC commands from on high

Basque: you can't simply claim those lands, if you want them you'll have to buy them or conquer them. MoPo, South Pacific, and Tichang have not shown up, and today is the deadline, so I declare their lands free for the taking. ALL PREVIOUS CLAIMS ON THESE LANDS ARE NULL AND VOID! DON'T ARGUE THIS POINT! The claiming starts now. Baasque, you get first dibs.

WG: good point about the supergun and DU. I would think R&D would be a bitch, though. Anyone who wants one will have to RP R&D. You can'rt simply pull one out of your ass. (that'd probably hurt, anyway). I also agree with you on RP'ing diplomacy. So (IC) The Free Land of Maineiacs wishes to extend to Wasted Genius the opportunity to open fully diplomatic relations, inclunding embassy exchange, and negotiating a trade agreement..

OOC again: Would you all please stop bickering and let me role play?


Can i claim South Pacific's territory?
MHDP
23-07-2005, 01:36
MHDP: I'm interested in purchasing your American territoy. Read back a couple of pages to see my offer.


Let us draw up an agreement for this territory, as of now my only reservation in selling this territory is that I retain administration over the port at Baltimore/Westminster.

Markus Dietz,
President of the MHDP
Halberdgardia
23-07-2005, 01:55
If Basque Spain wants the following territory, then I'll cede it to him, but for now, I'll post my claim. If the India region (India, Pakistan, surrounding countries, etc.) is up for grabs, and Basque Spain doesn't want it, I'll take it. Just out of curiosity, though, what else is up for grabs? The various shades of blue that represent the inactive players makes it hard to tell. Depending on what's available, I might pick something else, we'll see.
Maineiacs
23-07-2005, 07:07
Here's what's available.

India
Pakistan
Bangladesh
Sri Lanka
Maldives
Bhutan
Australia (except for the state of Western Australia)
New Zealand
1.8 million sq. mi. of Antarctica (I've said this eariler, but I'll say it again that in this world, Coastal Antarctica has a cold Pine forest climate like central Alaska or Siberia and the interior is tundra)


IC: MHDP, The Free Land of Maineiacs accepts your conditions. Is this for all of your American territory, except the port at Westminster? If so, The agreed to price will be sent to you immediately.
Maineiacs
23-07-2005, 16:01
<bump>
Beautiful Yalaluxurios
23-07-2005, 17:10
I would like the Antarctica territory
Halberdgardia
23-07-2005, 17:59
Well, then, pending approval from Basque Spain, I'd like India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, and Sri Lanka.
Maineiacs
23-07-2005, 19:38
Would you mind taking Bhutan and Maldives instead? I know Truitt wanted more land, and Pakistan makes sense for him/her.

BTW, pick a color for the map.
Basque Spain
23-07-2005, 20:01
I thought yall said there was no more land to be taken you can have it, you beat me to the gun
Basque Spain
23-07-2005, 20:03
Sri Lanka
Southern India (everything south of the Deccan)
Maldives
Bhutan
Australia (except for the state of Western Australia)
New Zealand


now that gives me the rest of the aussie island no?
Maineiacs
23-07-2005, 22:34
It looks like Halbergardia is getting India, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Bhutan, Maldives. Truitt is getting Pakistan. BY gets MoPo's Antarctic claim. You can have Australia and New Zealand in addition to what you already have. OK?

Land Claims are now closed, pending Basque agreeing to this proposal.
Halberdgardia
23-07-2005, 23:13
Would you mind taking Bhutan and Maldives instead? I know Truitt wanted more land, and Pakistan makes sense for him/her.

BTW, pick a color for the map.

Sure, why not. I've already got plans for India anyways. Let's see...all the good colors are taken! :p Since dark red is taken, I suppose I'll go with yellow. Not my first choice, but at least it's not taken.


EDIT: Quick clarification on one of the rules.

5. You can either RP your countries with the population demographics they have in RL, or with what you created for you NS nation.

Does this apply only to population size, or does it also include racial and religious breakdowns, tech levels, economy, etc.? If it's the latter, then I'll be using my NS nation demographics, and consequently, India will be much more affluent and modernized than it is in RL.
Beautiful Yalaluxurios
24-07-2005, 00:28
We scratched that rule eary on in the game. Your military poplation is derived directly form your NS nation. Military is normaly .3% of your population, depending on how militaristic you are. Your military should consist of about about 1,053,000 men and women.

Cheers
-BY
Maineiacs
24-07-2005, 01:50
BY: He waan't asking about millitary size,although you're right on that. to answer Halbergardia's question, It's the latter ahoice. You may play either the ethnic/ religious mix of your NS nation or the region's RL mix. We all thend to use NS population figures, I believe, so you might want to also. I don't knowif there's a consensus on demographics. Do you guys ever think of anything besides the size of your millitary? ;)
Halberdgardia
24-07-2005, 02:26
BY: He waan't asking about millitary size,although you're right on that. to answer Halbergardia's question, It's the latter ahoice. You may play either the ethnic/ religious mix of your NS nation or the region's RL mix. We all thend to use NS population figures, I believe, so you might want to also. I don't knowif there's a consensus on demographics. Do you guys ever think of anything besides the size of your millitary? ;)

OOC: OK, thanks. I'll be using relatively modern tech, U.S.-level or slightly higher (maybe early PMT by using, say, XM-8s and XM-29s, but probably not much beyond that). I'll also be using my NS nation's economy, racial and religious demographics, and military units. I can post some examples of the tech I use, if you like. First IC post to come soon.

IC EDIT: "Under new management" would be an apt metaphor for the changes occurring in India and the surrounding area. Following the inexplicable collapse of the former government, the Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia had stepped in and seized India, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Nepal, and Maldives, citing the old adage "Carpe Diem" as justification. The countries, now unified under the aegis of the Federated Territories of Halberdgardia, with their newly modernized infrastructures and militaries, were now poised to make moves on the world stage. But even more stunning than India's sudden rise to power was the announcement that the Federated Territories of Halberdgardia would be signing a formal alliance with the Imperial Seal Confederation of Joseph Seal, a massive world power that controlled vast swaths of territory. The alliance included terms for a mutual embassy exchange, exclusive economic and trading rights, and a mutual defense pact. What would happen next was anybody's guess...
Maineiacs
24-07-2005, 04:37
OOC: Maps have been updated. BTW, Halbergardia, I made a mistake. You have Nepal, not Bhutan. Earth NA is modern to post-modern tech.

IC: The Free Land of Maineiacs extends an offer of diplomatic and trade relations to the Democratic Republic of Halbergardia.
Maineiacs
24-07-2005, 04:47
From MBC News:

Maineiacs expands!

President McDermott has reached an agreement with the government of MHDP for the purchase of their North American Territories. The area will be organized into six provinces: Potomac, Carolina, Cumberland, Ohio, Dakota and Superior. Elections will be held so that our new citizens can have represntation in Congress. Early Polls indicate this will mean a substantial gain for the Reformist party. which currently holds 20 seats of 400 in congress. Welcome to the Free Land of Maineiacs!
Halberdgardia
24-07-2005, 15:46
OOC: Maps have been updated. BTW, Halbergardia, I made a mistake. You have Nepal, not Bhutan. Earth NA is modern to post-modern tech.

IC: The Free Land of Maineiacs extends an offer of diplomatic and trade relations to the Democratic Republic of Halbergardia.

OOC: I think you made a mistake on the map there; you have an Oceania/Asia map in the North America slot. :)

IC: The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia graciously accepts the Free Land of Maineiacs' offer of diplomatic relations. We also would like to offer you an embassy in the Diplomatic Quarter of our capitol, New Delhi. We hope that this begins the foundation of a grand new stage in relations between our countries.
Defuniak
24-07-2005, 16:07
See, I'll Make Something good!

The Minister of Defence Walked Into the hanger slowly, examining his surroundings.

"What is that?"

"It's A cannon"

"What? It looks like an Iron Arc Of The Covenent"

" Well, Not really. It's actually going to be the turret on a new model of tank we're making. This is the prototype"

" You said it was a cannon. What kind of cannon. Now looking at it, it does look like the inside of a turret"

" correct. It will have an outside covering, acting as armour... And a disguise. You See That Tube? That's the barrel. Examine it."

" It doesn't look like any barrel i've ever seen."

" It shouldn't. It's a new kind of weapon"

" Why don't you tell me what kind of Cannon!"

" It's a laser"

"A laser?"

"Yes. A laser. The Laser comes out of the barrel, and it does damage. At this stage, it's not operational, but has reached a point where it can effectively kill a human being. It's still a prototype, but.... It is highly effective at these stages"

"Wow"

" Yes, Wow"

" I need to continue work with my team"

"Nice Meeting You"

" You too"
Basque Spain
24-07-2005, 17:33
It looks like Halbergardia is getting India, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Bhutan, Maldives. Truitt is getting Pakistan. BY gets MoPo's Antarctic claim. You can have Australia and New Zealand in addition to what you already have. OK?

Land Claims are now closed, pending Basque agreeing to this proposal.

i claimed australia, and sri lanka, and south india up to the deccan, and new zealand
Maineiacs
24-07-2005, 17:49
And you got Australia and New Zealnd. Work it out with Halbergardia if you want Sri Lanka. I'm tired of dealing with people bitching at me. If you got less land then some others, well, go ask JS or BY to give you some. Tehy each contol entire continents and keep trying to demand that I grant them more. BTW, Defuniak, a LASER? When did we enter the Star Trek universe?
The 501st Legion
24-07-2005, 20:15
If you got less land then some others, well, go ask JS or BY to give you some. Tehy each contol entire continents and keep trying to demand that I grant them more.
OOC: That sounds like a good idea, Maineiacs! Thanks for the suggestion!


IC: An official communique to the leader of Joseph Seal:


To whom it may concern,

The Armed Republic of the 501st Legion is interested in purchasing some of your European territories. We are prepared to offer the following items in exchange for the territories of the United Kingdom, Ireland, Spain, Portugal, France, the Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, Germany, Liechtenstein, Switzerland, Italy, and Austria:
$100 billion USD
250 Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-25 Foxbats
150 Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-29 Fulcrums
100 Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-31 Foxhounds
400 Mil Mi-24 Hinds
250 Sukhoi Su-24 Fencers
150 Sukhoi Su-27 Flankers
10 Tupolev Tu-160 Blackjacks
2 Nimitz-class aircraft carriers
4 Ticonderoga-class guided missile cruisers
10 Arleigh Burke-class guided missile destroyers
4 Spruance-class destroyers
10 Oliver Hazard Perry-class frigates
10 Los Angeles-class attack submarines
2 Sacramento-class combat logistics ships
2 Supply-class combat logistics ships
It is our belief that the combined net worth of the cash and the offered military hardware is more than enough compensation for the loss of your territories. We will not ask for any more of your territory.

We are also interested in extending an offer of diplomatic, trade, and military relations between our two nations.

That is all. Thank you for considering our offers.

Signed,

Shinji Langley Ayanami
President of the Armed Republic of the 501st Legion
Basque Spain
24-07-2005, 22:09
All my land becomes there own states, Im out i don't rqeally have time for another earth to be in
Joseph Seal
24-07-2005, 22:41
OOC: Gah... guys, I'm not going to be around for awhile, namely because I'm going on vacation. Now, when I come back, I do NOT want to find my territory gone. Not one inch. So, I would like to, in IC, isolate my nation from the others. It cannot be touched until I return. Thank you.

IC: The nation of Joseph Seal declines The 501st Legion's offer for Joseph Seal's European land. We, however, welcome diplomatic and military relations. However, we will be going into isolation very shortly, to take care of our own internal problems. Thank you for your offer and interest.

-The Nation of Joseph Seal

OOC: So long peoples.
Maineiacs
24-07-2005, 22:54
Basque, are you saying you're leaving and we should divide up your land?
Defuniak
25-07-2005, 00:20
And you got Australia and New Zealnd. Work it out with Halbergardia if you want Sri Lanka. I'm tired of dealing with people bitching at me. If you got less land then some others, well, go ask JS or BY to give you some. Tehy each contol entire continents and keep trying to demand that I grant them more. BTW, Defuniak, a LASER? When did we enter the Star Trek universe?


So! The U.S. Uses lasers on gunships to destroy missiles! Industrial Company's use it to cut metal. If it can cut metal, it can cut organics. Modern And Post modern. It's completely plausible.
Maineiacs
25-07-2005, 00:38
Lasers on gunship? I've not heard of that, but then again, I don't keep up with millitary tech as much as others. I'll take your word for it. :D
Maineiacs
25-07-2005, 04:40
<bump>
Wasted Genius
25-07-2005, 07:10
New Rail Initiative Announced

Boise, ID - In a press conference held earlier today, Wasted Genius announced that it will begin overhauling its rail system in and between all major cities. "We've decided that one of our highest priorities should be the improvement and expansion of our transportation system," Minister of Transportation Jo Aksos commented. "The current network may have been adequate for the previous government's transportation needs, but we believe that it is time to build a system that moves people and materials more rapidly, at a lower cost and at the same time bolsters our nation's competitive advantage in the world market."

Mr. Aksos went on to describe a plan that includes high-speed point-to-point passenger service and new funding for existing municipal light and short-haul rail systems. A plan that includes conceptual development and a cost analysis of migrating inter-city freight from the current highway system to an expanded railway network was discussed.

At the press conference, a representative of the Teamsters Union raised concerns that the government's plan "sends a negative signal to the thousands of truckers who move tons of vital goods every day." Mr. Aksos responded that "while even positive change sometimes requires sacrifice, a strong effort will be made to include everyone in the process." The plan is expected to create 40,000 new jobs in its first year and could strengthen trade relations in the region as demand for engineering resources and raw materials increases.
Wasted Genius
25-07-2005, 07:23
The Free Land of Maineiacs wishes to extend to Wasted Genius the opportunity to open fully diplomatic relations, inclunding embassy exchange, and negotiating a trade agreement..

The Most Serene Republic of Wasted Genius accepts Maineiacs offer to open diplomatic and trade relations and reciprocates the same.

Boise Welcomes Maineaics!
Wasted Genius
25-07-2005, 08:23
This is all OOC:

After reading H's post, I realized I never made a statement about my military.

Personnel:

Active: 986,100
Reserves: 51,900

Hardware:

Proportional to 2005 US military stats, based on head count.

Tech level/philosophy:

My military is based on the current US military model (2005) with a few catches.

First, my nation is an "inoffensive centrist democracy" so I take that to mean that the military is a defensive force and not interested in expeditionary ops beyond living up to our alliance requirements. Contrary to recent rumors, our primary mission is to minimize battlefield injuries and casualties while effectively providing security for our citizens and our allies.

Second, the military calculator says I have a lot of budget per head to trick out my soldiers. This either means new Humvees with fine Corinthian leather and those spinnie wheelcovers for everyone -- or -- spending money for state of the art weapons systems. After all, our leading industry is (regrettably) Arms Manufacturing.

WG's commitment to developing and using new-tech systems is that they will be developed in a reasonable time frame and defined clearly enough in RP so everyone can have an idea whether there is any godmoding going on in an actual battle RP. So, if you see WG discussing a new system, that doesn't mean it will be hitting a shore near you tomorrow morning.
Maineiacs
25-07-2005, 17:19
OOC: Sounds good. though personally, I think tricked out humvees sounds cool. :cool:

IC: Ambassador Curtis Jackson has been chosen to lead the Maineiacs' diplomatic mission to WG, and has been charged with setting up the Maineiacs embassy in Boise. (I assume Boise, ID is your capital?)
The 501st Legion
26-07-2005, 06:03
<bumpity bump bump bump>

Basque, are you saying you're leaving and we should divide up your land?
I believe that he did say that. With all due respect, I call dibs on the Philippines, Malaysia, Singapore, Brunei, Indonesia, and Australia. If anybody finds this claim too large, I'll try to trim it down.
Maineiacs
26-07-2005, 07:25
OK, I find it too large. I'm particularly interested in hearing from Truitt and our new nation. Tell you what, You can have the Philippenes now, then we'll see what happens, ok?
Defuniak
26-07-2005, 13:02
This Thread is dying Fast, What it needs is a good war to spice things up, maybe a superpower should attack some pimp in A continent that hasn't fought yet. North America.

(I'm not a superpower :( )
Defuniak
26-07-2005, 13:06
Can I have the Other half of Papua New Guinea, And Australia?
Beautiful Yalaluxurios
26-07-2005, 16:08
Then, if your not, who are the superpowers?
Defuniak
26-07-2005, 17:47
Pretty Much You And JS. Whenever a country gets attacked, all the other nations just say they're Neutral, And they watch. NOTHING is happening, I'll have to do something Drastic.

OOC:THIS THREAD IS NOW OFFICIALLY DEAD!
Beautiful Yalaluxurios
26-07-2005, 19:14
THIS THREAD IS OFFICIALLY ALIVE!
Wasted Genius
26-07-2005, 21:30
Pretty Much You And JS. Whenever a country gets attacked, all the other nations just say they're Neutral, And they watch. NOTHING is happening, I'll have to do something Drastic.

OOC: I can think of one drastic thing you could do...(I'll leave this up to your imagination - j/k ;) ). But seriously, I think you need to look at the bigger picture. The thing that will make this thread last a long time is if it has more going for it than simply "I declare war on <<put any nations name here>>." That just goes down the road of "ha, I'm king of the hill - now what?"

Believe it or not, I see you as an interesting player in Earth NA and one way or another you've kept my attention.

Also, I think my point is made by the "neutrality" issue you just raised. Strictly speaking for myself, I declared neutrality for two reasons: 1) because the storyline of your first invasion was a little sparse and I didn't see much of an opportunity to RP it out very far. 2) if we did RP it, you've got a monster-size military that would either lead to just about anybody you come up against getting smoked, or everybody else ganging up on you, and you getting smoked.

I'll RP war, but its got to be on the basis that it builds the Earth NA thread and can be conducted in a way that allows for a good storyline to develop.

PS - I think Earth NA is alive and well.
The 501st Legion
26-07-2005, 22:07
OK, I find it too large. I'm particularly interested in hearing from Truitt and our new nation. Tell you what, You can have the Philippenes now, then we'll see what happens, ok?
OK, that's a good start. How about giving me Malaysia, Singapore, and Brunei? Area-wise, that's not a really large piece of territory.

Defuniak already laid claim to Australia and the Indonesian half of New Guinea; we'll just let Truitt or Halberdgardia (I think that's how it's spelled) get the rest of Indonesia.
Wasted Genius
26-07-2005, 22:16
Ambassador Curtis Jackson has been chosen to lead the Maineiacs' diplomatic mission to WG, and has been charged with setting up the Maineiacs embassy in Boise. (I assume Boise, ID is your capital?)

WG acknowledges your ambassador and is happy to announce that we have designated a large tract of land on International Avenue in our capitol city of Boise, Idaho. This premium land is located near our capitol building and is hereby considered the sovereign territory of Maineiacs.

Our ambassador, Ne Rekos will communicate with Mr. Jackson to accomodate the needs of your diplomatic staff.

On behalf of the people of The Most Serene Republic of Wasted Genius I am very pleased that our countries have taken this first step in developing a trusted economic and political relationship. It is my belief that ties such as these will enrich not only our citizen's lives, but the lives of all of the people of Earth NA.

At Masok
Prime Minister
The Most Serene Republic of Wasted Genius
Maineiacs
26-07-2005, 23:42
OK, that's a good start. How about giving me Malaysia, Singapore, and Brunei? Area-wise, that's not a really large piece of territory.

Defuniak already laid claim to Australia and the Indonesian half of New Guinea; we'll just let Truitt or Halberdgardia (I think that's how it's spelled) get the rest of Indonesia.


Ok, we'll do it that way. Whichever one I hear from first, gets it.
Maineiacs
26-07-2005, 23:47
WG acknowledges your ambassador and is happy to announce that we have designated a large tract of land on International Avenue in our capitol city of Boise, Idaho. This premium land is located near our capitol building and is hereby considered the sovereign territory of Maineiacs.

Our ambassador, Ne Rekos will communicate with Mr. Jackson to accomodate the needs of your diplomatic staff.

On behalf of the people of The Most Serene Republic of Wasted Genius I am very pleased that our countries have taken this first step in developing a trusted economic and political relationship. It is my belief that ties such as these will enrich not only our citizen's lives, but the lives of all of the people of Earth NA.

At Masok
Prime Minister
The Most Serene Republic of Wasted Genius

The Free Land of Maineiacs thanks you and awaits the arrival of the Wasted Genius Ambassador. 5 hectares of land has been set aside in Maineiacs City, along Avenue of the Americas, for your embassy.

Anderson McDermott,
President
The Free Land of Maineiacs
Maineiacs
27-07-2005, 07:03
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Truitt
27-07-2005, 07:50
Truitt, want to Ally?

-----------------

Assuming BS takes South Pacific, I want Mo-Po


OOC: Sure, want a meeting or just say we are allied? Also, I take it Pakistan is under my control?
Maineiacs
27-07-2005, 16:37
Pakistan is yours, Truitt. We still have New Zealand, and most of Idonesia, as well as East Timor available. You and Halbergardia have priority.
Beautiful Yalaluxurios
27-07-2005, 17:32
Um...I guess have a meeting
Beautiful Yalaluxurios
27-07-2005, 17:33
Bump!
Halberdgardia
27-07-2005, 17:55
OOC: My Internet at home's been down lately, sorry for the inactivity. Anyways, I just wanted to let you know to put me on Vacation Mode, so to speak, as I'm doing just that: going on vacation. More info is here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9327620#post9327620). Don't give away my territories, please! :D

EDIT: I'll take New Zealand, if it's still up for grabs.
Beautiful Yalaluxurios
27-07-2005, 21:42
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Beautiful Yalaluxurios
27-07-2005, 21:43
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Beautiful Yalaluxurios
27-07-2005, 21:45
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Maineiacs
28-07-2005, 00:07
OK, Halbergardia gets New Zealand, Truitt gets indonesia and East Timor.
Joseph Seal
28-07-2005, 06:06
OOC: Just wanted to let you all know I will not be using this nation, Joseph Seal, anymore. Instead, I'm going to transfer control to my other, alternate nation, Wars World.

I will still keep my current territory though, and will be transfering my 12 million clones, 500,000 Cerberus MBTs, and Augury-class battle armor to Wars World. Wars World will also have the same allies as this nation, Joseph Seal does.

So... yeah. It is done.
Wars World
28-07-2005, 06:10
OOC: Alrighty. Let's just say that during isolation, Joseph Seal's government... how shall we say, collapsed, and a new government took power, a parliamentary government, which renamed the nation, Wars World. Many Joseph Seal supporters escaped the nation, forming bands to constantly try and overthrow the current government. This is my entire army.


Wars World Military

4,000,000 Soldiers
12,000,000 clones
550,000 Reserve
16,000,000 Augury-class Armor Suits (Achieved production rights)

Army

Infantries: 200,000
Mechs: 200,000
Recons: 100,000
APCs: 100,000
Artilleries: 50,000
Tanks: 100,000
Anti-Airs: 100,000
Missiles: 50,000
Rockets: 50,000
Medium Tanks: 100,000
HM90 Cerberus MBTs 500,000

Navy

Landers: 100,000
Cruiser/Destroyers: 1,500
Submarines: 500
Nuclear ICBM Submarines: 500
Battleships: 1,000
Carriers: 500


Air Force

T-Copters: 100,000
B-Copters: 100,000
Fighters: 200,000
Bombers: 20,000
Stealth Bombers: 20,000

This is of course not including my space navy, which will not be used on this Earth.

So... yeah.
Beautiful Yalaluxurios
28-07-2005, 06:40
OOC: Just out of intrest, why did you change nations?
Wars World
28-07-2005, 09:01
OOC: Just out of intrest, why did you change nations?
OOC: Eh. I grew tired of my old one. Terrible name. :p
Beautiful Yalaluxurios
28-07-2005, 19:44
Can i have BS's Indoniseia or New Zealand?
The 501st Legion
28-07-2005, 21:12
Can i have BS's Indoniseia or New Zealand?
You're too late, BY; we already divided up BS's territories. I got the Philippines, Malaysia, Singapore and Brunei; Defuniak got the Indonesian part of New Guinea and Australia; Halberdgardia got New Zealand; and Truitt got East Timor and the rest of Indonesia.
Beautiful Yalaluxurios
28-07-2005, 23:20
Oh, sry, I was just looking at the map. MNCS - could you plz update the map to avoid confusion
Wasted Genius
29-07-2005, 20:03
OOC: This is just a bump of sorts. I'm still out here lurking in the shadows. I'm taking advantage of a lull in the action to (finally) put my factbook together. Also, is MHDP still around? If so, do you want to continue RP'ing the supergun? I'm game...
Wars World
29-07-2005, 20:05
OOC: I was about to bump this myself...
Wasted Genius
29-07-2005, 20:11
OOC: Check this out!

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=434400&page=1&pp=15&highlight=Newbie+Earth

Defuniak started his own Earth. Looks good so far. Of course, not as good as Earth NA! ;)
Maineiacs
30-07-2005, 01:49
WTF? Defuniak started his own earth? Does that mean he's leaving here? Admittedly, things aren't going quite as I'd hoped, but C'mon, folks if we start posting more actual RP, thing will pick up. Hey, Wars World, wanna negoitiate for fishing/drilling rights in the Greenland Sea?
Beautiful Yalaluxurios
30-07-2005, 01:50
If teymor dosent come back, can i just rp a war against him in antarctica, i already announced i would attack if he didnt give me land so....

If I rp a war i promise to be realistic and fair, playing the part of both armies.

If Teymor's territory is givent away due to inactivness, I get first dibs on Antarctica
Maineiacs
30-07-2005, 01:51
do it either way.
Beautiful Yalaluxurios
30-07-2005, 01:52
oh, and...

73]-[ ub3r !3u|V|pz0rZiiiiiiii
Beautiful Yalaluxurios
30-07-2005, 01:53
Alrighty.

Im currently on my hotel's computer, so I might noty get around to it until tuesday-ish
Wars World
30-07-2005, 02:58
WTF? Defuniak started his own earth? Does that mean he's leaving here? Admittedly, things aren't going quite as I'd hoped, but C'mon, folks if we start posting more actual RP, thing will pick up. Hey, Wars World, wanna negoitiate for fishing/drilling rights in the Greenland Sea?
First, if Defuniak IS leaving, I get dibs on Japan, Korea, New Guinea and Hawaii. Oceania I would also claim, but I'll be fair to others. :p

Also, I suppose we could do that... I'll start us off.

IC:

Official Statement

It has come to the United Nations of Wars World's attention that Greenland has gigantic potential for fishing and drilling. Wishing, however, not to start a war, the nation has proposed to start negotiations with the nation of Maineiacs, current ruler of Greenland and the northwest of North America. We are willing to tribute iron and steel, not to mention timber and gold, in exchange for rights to drill and fish in Greenland. We await Maineiac's response.

OOC: Also Maineiacs, could you update the nation names by replacing Joseph Seal with Wars World, so people don't get confused? Thanks.
Defuniak
30-07-2005, 03:32
WTF? Defuniak started his own earth? Does that mean he's leaving here? Admittedly, things aren't going quite as I'd hoped, but C'mon, folks if we start posting more actual RP, thing will pick up. Hey, Wars World, wanna negoitiate for fishing/drilling rights in the Greenland Sea?


No, It's Just my way of making a time schedule disruption for myself. ;)
Defuniak
30-07-2005, 03:35
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Wow. BY, Is that some kind of UBER SPAM, that i've never seen before?

If you do that to much, you'll BUMP Into a lot of diffilcuties.
Defuniak
30-07-2005, 03:37
oh, and...

73]-[ ub3r !3u|V|pz0rZiiiiiiii

Agh! More Spam!

(Or BY has been bitten by a N00B bug.)
Maineiacs
30-07-2005, 03:56
OK, Defuniak. Thanks forclearing that up.

UC: To the government of Wars World:

We can let you contract for drilling rights near the port of Angmagsaalik, on the NW coast of Kallalliit Nunaat Province, for a period of time not to exceed 3 years. Also feel free to fish in international waters in the Greenland Sea. We ask only that you repect our territorial waters claim of 15 km. Maineiacs also claims as territorial waters the Grand Banks, off Newfoundland. Wars World may build refinery facilities at Angmagsaalik, personnel not to exceed 500. (try not to dig up the tundra too much). Maineiacs' asking price is 3 million USD, and 250,000 MT of iron per annum.

Thank you,
Irving Fishbine
Secretary of the Interior,
The Free Land of Maineiacs
Wars World
30-07-2005, 20:30
The nation of Wars World feels this is a fair deal, and will accept the terms. Upon confirmation, we will be transporting building equipment for the fishing stations and oil refineries, not to mention the 3,000,000 USD and 250,000 MT of iron you ask for. We thank you for your time.

Wars World has also just updated it's military.

Wars World Military

4,000,000 Soldiers
30,000,000 clones
600,000 Reserve
34,600,000 Augury-class Armor Suits (Achieved production rights)

Army

Infantries: 200,000
Mechs: 200,000
Recons: 100,000
APCs: 100,000
Artilleries: 50,000
Tanks: 100,000
Anti-Airs: 100,000
Missiles: 50,000
Rockets: 50,000
Medium Tanks: 100,000
HM90 Cerberus MBTs 500,000

Navy

Landers: 100,000
Cruiser/Destroyers: 1,500
Submarines: 500
Nuclear ICBM Submarines: 500
Battleships: 1,000
Carriers: 500


Air Force

T-Copters: 100,000
B-Copters: 100,000
Fighters: 200,000
Bombers: 20,000
Stealth Bombers: 20,000
The 501st Legion
30-07-2005, 21:30
First, if Defuniak IS leaving, I get dibs on Japan, Korea, New Guinea and Hawaii. Oceania I would also claim, but I'll be fair to others. :p
OK, that sounds fair. In the event that Defuniak does leave, I claim Australia and Taiwan. However, it doesn't look like Defuniak's leaving anytime soon, so we'll leave his territories alone for now.
Maineiacs
30-07-2005, 21:42
OOC: Wars World, I made a mistake. Angmagsaalik is on the NE coast, not NW. just remember that when you RP it, ok?
Maineiacs
31-07-2005, 05:39
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The 501st Legion
31-07-2005, 22:23
@ Clark Air Base, Philippines (now under the control of the 501st Legion, of course):

Secretary of Defense Rika Lee Matsuki, Chairwoman Misato Akagi, Army Chief of Staff Kyoko Langley, Air Force Chief of Staff Yui Ayanami, Chief of Naval Operations Naoko Katsuragi, and Commandant of the Marine Corps Ritsuko Katsuragi were led to a cavernous hangar by their heavily-armed, all-female escorts.

"Remember that contract we gave to our contractors to develop a high-yield thermobaric weapon?" Secretary Matsuki asked.

"Kinda," Chairwoman Akagi replied absentmindedly. "What about it, Secretary Matsuki?"

The Secretary, the Joint Chiefs, and their retinue entered the hangar. The hangar proper was empty, except for a Tu-22M "Backfire" bomber, some technicians, mechanics, and support staff, a couple support vehicles, and the object that the women were there to see: a 30-foot long, 30000-pound bomb painted Day-Glo orange.

"So, this is it?" Chief of Staff Ayanami said dryly. "A regular daisy cutter? This is what our taxpayer money went to?"

"No, no, and double no," Secretary Matsuki replied snappily. "Remember 'Neon Genesis Evangelion'?"

"Yes, Secretary Matsuki," all the Joint Chiefs chimed in unison.

"You know the N2 mine, right? Well, this is as close as we can get to it in real life. The projected yield of this baby's approximately 6-15 megatons. The contractors claim that it can single-handedly wipe out an entire carrier battle group or a small city."

"Sweet," Chief of Staff Langley said excitedly. "So, when are we testing it?"

"We're planning to test it on several of our decomissioned battleships just east of Luzon two days from now," Secretary Matsuki replied. "President Ayanami and Vice President Makino are gonna be there with us to see the entire thing. I'm pretty sure they won't be disappointed by our little display of anime-inspired technological might."



An excerpt from the news article in The 501st Times printed the day after the test:

Experimental "N2 Mine" Tested Successfully
SINGLE BOMB WIPES OUT ENTIRE FLEET

By LACUS SIEGEL
Times Manila Bureau

MANILA --- The "N2 mine," an experimental weapon developed for the branches of the 501st Legion's military by various contractors, was finally tested yesterday with spectacular results. At 0900 hours local time, a 501st Legion Air Force Tupolev Tu-22M "Backfire" dropped the first N2 mine prototype on a fleet of decomissioned Navy ships in the Philippine Sea. The bomb detonated at an altitude of approximately 158 ft above its designated target, the Forrestal-class aircraft carrier Takemikazuchi; the resulting explosion completely demolished the carrier, leaving only floating debris. The detonation of the N2 mine also destroyed the Virginia-class guided missile cruisers Kusanagi and Izumo, the South Dakota-class battleship Aegis, the Garcia-class frigate Kuraokami, the Kirov-class battlecruisers Archangel and Dominion, and the Kiev-class aircraft carrier Eternal.
[NS]Wars World
01-08-2005, 01:37
Official Response

The nation of Wars World warns the 501st Legion that these superweapon testings could spark a nuclear arms race, much like the Cold War in the 20th century. Wars World reminds the 501st Legion that luck saved the world from total ahniliation, and that Wars World does not wish to have the world destroyed.

Wars World Paper The Next Day...

In response to the testing of the N2 mine, Wars World military scientists have begun their own research for a powerful weapon. Already, blaster rifles are being fitted to infantry and vehicles, and there has been talk of creating a proton cannon to replace the current tank shells.

EDIT: OOC: What the hell?! Why is there an [NS] in front of my name?
Maineiacs
01-08-2005, 01:58
From Maineiacs News Wire:

Stony Brook, Allegheney

A team of physicists at MUSB have announced that they are beginning research on the newly-operational Nuclear Research Facility that promises to bring the fusion project closer to fruition. Dr. Elizabeth Parker, head of the team at MUSB, said in an interview "with the new techniques in heat-resistant alloys and high pressure containment, we believe that we are very close to making a significant breakthrough in the quest for fusion power that will finally free mankind from dependence on fossil fuels, as well as the dangers of nuclear contamination associated with fission." Energy Secretary Miguel Figueroa said that this project had the full support of the government.
Beautiful Yalaluxurios
01-08-2005, 03:15
OOC: An entire fleet!?!? wow, thats a little bit of a goddmod
Truitt
01-08-2005, 03:19
OOC: Sorry guys, I only really get on NS forums every other day and sometimes I might not check my subscriptions. Thanks for giving me East Tremor and Indonesia while I was gone, I would have yelled for them otherwise.

As to our meeting, BY.

Also, I think I should be able to use some of my 2015-style tech in my stats, since I see Mechs and space fleets being used. Wondering, can someone clarify me on the exact year this is taking place?

Also, can it be assumed I already have my arsenal of "superweapons" and "strategic pieces." If not, than I got a whole bunch of RP to do to catch up (Neutron arms, nuclear and non-nuclear ICBMs, tungsten rods from satellites, anti-satellite satellites, and spaceplanes that have a moderately-capable laser attached).

IC:

In Jerusalem, Isreal, the capitol building of la Casa de la Presencia stood proudly at five stories, the highest building allowed in the city.

The holy city showed all of the Jewitt Republic's pride, and its genocidal past. There were no blacks, no muslims, no body, but hebrew and germanic people. The scarred city was hosting something new, an ally.

In the building, the Presidente, Douvier, and Sectur awaited the comming of the representative, or even leader, of B.Y.
[NS]Wars World
01-08-2005, 03:48
Angmagsaalik, 8:34 Greenland Standard Time

Off the northeastern shores of Greenland, near Angmagsaalik, landers were seen in the horizon. The border guards tensed, but relaxed when they learned they were just Wars World landers, filled with the equipment necessary to build their oil rigs. It had begun...

Official Statement To Truitt

The nation of Wars World has expressed an interest in the island of Cyprus, currently held by Truitt, and Kazakhstan, also owned by Truitt. The prime minister of Wars World proposes to Truitt, a sale of Cyprus and Kazakhstan. Wars World is willing to pay 1 trillion USD for both territories, plus 25,000 MT of oil. The prime minister awaits Truitt's response.
Truitt
01-08-2005, 04:23
To: Crews Outside Borders
From: Sectur James Conners
We cannot accept this. No amount of money can sell the lands that are rightfully Jewittist. This is the new jewish empire, and we shall not fall to our treasury.

We may allow companies in our free trade-styled government, but expect a few hefty tariffs. Thank you,
Sectur James Richard Conners
The 501st Legion
01-08-2005, 05:42
OOC: An entire fleet!?!? wow, thats a little bit of a goddmod
OOC: Not really, BY. Thermobaric and air-fuel weapons (like my own homegrown N2 mine) are no godmod. I'm not good for explanations, so either click the following link or Google "thermobaric weapon."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermobaric_weapon

From what I understand, the largest thermobaric and fuel-air weapons in real life are equivalent to low-yield nukes when it comes to destructive power (without the risks of radiation and fallout, of course). The N2 mine is merely a logical step forward, roughly equivalent to a high-yield nuke such as the Castle Bravo bomb.

I can also cite a historical precedent for my fleet-destroying bomb: the Operation Crossroads test, conducted in 1946 using a pair of nukes in the 20-kiloton range. The first bomb, Able, sunk several of the smaller ships gathered for that test, despite the fact that it was detonated 1500-2000 feet off target; the second bomb, Baker, managed to sink or severely damage the rest of the other ships.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Crossroads

Simply put, if a pair of 20-kiloton nukes can devastate a fleet of 90 ships, imagine what a single 15-megaton nuke can do.


IC: An official communique to the leaders of all Earth NA nations:

To whom it may concern,

Copies of the plans for the N2 mine, as well as working examples, are now being sold on the open market by the 501st Legion's military contractors. Representatives of prospective buyers are to meet in Beijing to determine prices and the sizes of their orders. This is all being done in order to prevent a potential arms race. Thank you for considering our offer.

Signed,
Shinji Langley Ayanami
President of the Armed Republic of the 501st Legion
Maineiacs
01-08-2005, 06:03
A few OOC notes:

I read 501st's link. This stuff looks scary, but legit. Since he's willing to sell the tech, I'll allow it (besides, I'm researching fusion power, so I'd be hypocritical not to allow it). The year of the RP is 2005, but on an earth a bit more advanced than ours. Post-modern tech, folks. Truitt, I'll need more info about your weapons, but my first instinct is to have you RP the R&D. Neutron bombs are acceptable (albeit really nasty), or did you have something else in mind? Mechs and space fleets are definitely out.
Maineiacs
01-08-2005, 06:17
Does anyone remember what the Antarctica claims were?
Truitt
01-08-2005, 06:57
OOC: His stuff is alright. I perfer the MOAB with a slightly larger containment of fuseen materials.

Neutron arms have been used by my nation since my civil war (I kind a used it against myself), some 8-9 months ago. They are my prime "strategic" arsenal because they leave little to no long-term radiation and do not harm the atmosphere, while killing people and not buildings, or in more tatical views, tanks and ships. I barely use actual nuclear weapons, unless I am being invaded and he does not have them.

As to his N2, I would like a further explaination. You can't just give numbers and battle report, give on how it works.

Satellites with missiles to shoot both ground and satellite targets I also have, and also tungsten rod-armed satellites. All 2010 tech.

Now, in 2015 tech, I have an experimental Weather Modification System, which is extremely reactive and nearly blows up every time I use it, but gets the job done (cause of safety issues of it getting out of control, I only do it to make fog, remove a storm, or even add a tornado or two). I can see how you will not accept it, since it really isn't until 2020 till the actual range could be made beyond the plant far below the ground.

Further into tech, I have GISS, which is today's tech. 2010 tech makes it less expencive. It is pixel-sized cameras and televisions placed all over the soldier (and tank, the AU-2A1 Accord) which when activated turn him transparent, it not near-invisible. It drains a lot of power, and usually is only on for ten to twenty minutes at a time. Good enough to infiltrate a building or cave.

This is acceptable cause a simular suit is in tests in the Japanese universities. I could search on Google for the exact site (translated to English) but it'll be a bit.

Also, my OSAR (OSAR-II which I will note is just the rifle with the GISS on it) has a tracking system on the helmet and a whole lot of good stuff that makes my soldiers each an army of their own. I should really find the info sheet...

Eh, if you don't mind, I'll copy it here under a quote. It'll stretch the page a bit.
Beautiful Yalaluxurios
01-08-2005, 16:45
OOC: Ok, sorry 501, I stand corrected :)

IC:

Outside of la Casa de la Presencia, a large, fancy black car pulls up, escorted by motorcycles with 'Yalan Royal Police' on them.

The driver of the car opens his door, and walks to the other side. He opens the passenger door, and out steps a tall African man, dressed in a black suit and carrying a suitcase.

He walks to the front door, where two Truittian guards were standing. He pulls out his ID card, the guards examine it, and he is let in.

Inside he walks up the staircase to the fifth floor, where a group of Truittian leaders were waiting for him.

"Ambassador Garrett Jenkins, official representitive of Yalaluxurios, its a pleasure to meet you"
Beautiful Yalaluxurios
01-08-2005, 16:49
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Wasted Genius
01-08-2005, 18:56
OOC: At first look I was a little alarmed at the more imaginative new-tech weapons I saw coming into play. But after a little internet surfing and Military Channel viewing I was truly apalled. Truth of the matter is that some of this stuff might actually go online over the next few years. *gasps and starts looking for property in the heart of Montana*

But I have to agree with the no space fleets thing. Sounds a little Star Warsy to me. Along this line the clone armies are quite a stretch of the imagination too, unless we're willing to RP what happens when a few of them get loose and start dating the local girls - I mean, clones will be clones....

Bottom line is a) I'm feeling old - My idea of war is polluted with images of John Wayne storming the pillboxes on Iwo Jima with nothing but his trusty .45. b) If I saw your tech in an episode of Star Wars, I'll probably scream godmod if you try to use it against WG without some kind of RL documentation. c) I'll happily RP whatever tech the thread's mod (Maineiacs) OKs. :)
Maineiacs
01-08-2005, 19:26
Fine by me. I agree that some of this stuff sounds absolutely creepy, but even worse, it all real! :eek: I think clones is about as "futuristic" as I'll allow. Cyborgs, e.g., maybe not. I figure 30 or 40 years ahead is a good starting point. I really want everyone to R&D any untested tech, with appropriate snags and setbacks. Let's be realistic, ok? *shudders at the thought of me having Stony Brook, NY go up in a fireball from the fusion experiments I'm doing* just remember, kiddies, R&D, and please document anything us oldsters might not be familiar with. Let's not have any unnecessary godmodding charges.
The 501st Legion
01-08-2005, 19:48
As to his N2, I would like a further explaination. You can't just give numbers and battle report, give on how it works.

OOC: My N2 mine works on the same principles as a real-life fuel-air weapon: a cloud of explosive mist is expelled from the shell, then detonated using a pair of explosive charges.

Think of a giant aerosol can filled with a highly pressurized slurry of the most powerful conventional explosives known to man; that's my N2 mine in a nutshell (or bomb shell, if you will). An explosive charge busts open the can at a predetermined height (in the case of the N2 prototype, 158 ft), causing explosive decompression and violent boiling of the liquid component of the slurry, resulting in a massive liberation of explosive vapors and fine powder. In the instant that occurs, the second charge goes off, propagating a massive blast wave though the cloud of vapor and powder.
Defuniak
01-08-2005, 23:53
The Nation Of Defuniak Would Love to buy an N2 bomb, but, what is the price?

OOC: Also, what is the timescale? How will time advance? We can't stay in 2005- 2010 forever, can we?
Maineiacs
02-08-2005, 01:10
I honestly hadn't given thought to time moving. Any suggetions?
Defuniak
02-08-2005, 03:36
Ummmm..... How About 1 day= 1 year? I'm not real good at timelines, that might be a bit too fast. If we do make a timeline, how 'bout we make the years start in 2005, and we advance.
Beautiful Yalaluxurios
02-08-2005, 05:46
i think 1 week = 1 day would be the best choice
[NS]Wars World
02-08-2005, 06:17
OOC: But that might be too slow.

Maybe 1 RL day = 1 NS month?

EDIT: Also, updating military again. BIG change here.

Wars World Military

4,000,000 Soldiers
30,000,000 clones
600,000 Reserve
35,000,000 Augury-class Armor Suits (Achieved production rights)

Army

Infantries: 200,000
Mechs: 200,000
Recons: 100,000
APCs: 100,000
Artilleries: 50,000
Tanks: 100,000
Anti-Airs: 100,000
Missiles: 50,000
Rockets: 50,000
Medium Tanks: 100,000
HM90 Cerberus MBTs 500,000

Navy

Landers: 100,000
Cruiser/Destroyers: 1,500
Submarines: 500
Nuclear ICBM Submarines: 500
Battleships: 1,000
Carriers: 500


Air Force

T-Copters: 100,000
B-Copters: 100,000
Fighters: 200,000
Bombers: 20,000
Stealth Bombers: 20,000


Nuclear WMDs/WMD Factories/Bunkers

Hellas V Thermonuclear Bombs: 15
LGM-118 Peacekeepers: 100
Nuclear ICBM Silos: 215(Building)
Nuclear Reactors: 50(Building)
Heavy Water Plants: 50(Building)
Civilian Bunker Complexes: 250(Building)
Leadership Bunkers: 100(Building)

Note, it took almost ALL of my defence budget to purchase this stuff... had a little over 3 billion remaining out of 698 billion. :eek: So yes, this is legit. Also, this will take about... I'll say five NS years to completely... complete... so if we go by my suggestion "1 RL Day = 1 NS Month", I'll be done with this in about two months. :D
Maineiacs
02-08-2005, 07:35
We'll go with Wars' suggestion. So, if we assume that day 1 of the RP (July 13) was January 2005, it is now (August 2) September 2006. Which means I have to prepare for Congressional elections. The territory I purchased from MHDP is going to have a major impact. Ain't too many Social Democrats in the Southeast and Midwest. I'll post my millitary figures as soon as I research what to have. You all seem to know more about weapons than I do.
Maineiacs
02-08-2005, 07:39
Wars World']OOC: But that might be too slow.

Maybe 1 RL day = 1 NS month?

EDIT: Also, updating military again. BIG change here.

Wars World Military

4,000,000 Soldiers
30,000,000 clones
600,000 Reserve
35,000,000 Augury-class Armor Suits (Achieved production rights)

Army

Infantries: 200,000
Mechs: 200,000
Recons: 100,000
APCs: 100,000
Artilleries: 50,000
Tanks: 100,000
Anti-Airs: 100,000
Missiles: 50,000
Rockets: 50,000
Medium Tanks: 100,000
HM90 Cerberus MBTs 500,000

Navy

Landers: 100,000
Cruiser/Destroyers: 1,500
Submarines: 500
Nuclear ICBM Submarines: 500
Battleships: 1,000
Carriers: 500


Air Force

T-Copters: 100,000
B-Copters: 100,000
Fighters: 200,000
Bombers: 20,000
Stealth Bombers: 20,000


Nuclear WMDs/WMD Factories/Bunkers

Hellas V Thermonuclear Bombs: 15
LGM-118 Peacekeepers: 100
Nuclear ICBM Silos: 215(Building)
Nuclear Reactors: 50(Building)
Heavy Water Plants: 50(Building)
Civilian Bunker Complexes: 250(Building)
Leadership Bunkers: 100(Building)

Note, it took almost ALL of my defence budget to purchase this stuff... had a little over 3 billion remaining out of 698 billion. :eek: So yes, this is legit. Also, this will take about... I'll say five NS years to completely... complete... so if we go by my suggestion "1 RL Day = 1 NS Month", I'll be done with this in about two months. :D


What part of "no mechs" do you not understand?
[NS]Wars World
02-08-2005, 09:16
What part of "no mechs" do you not understand?
What are you talking about? Do you mean the nukes? If so, that doesn't make sense. Nukes, in RL, are still around today. And since we're going by MT and PMT, I don't see what the problem is with nukes or ICBMs.
Maineiacs
02-08-2005, 12:47
I don't have a problem with nukes. What were you talking about? Perhaps I just don't understand what you meant by mechs.
Beautiful Yalaluxurios
02-08-2005, 17:10
OOC: Since everyone else has...

IC:

The Royal Yalan Military:

----------Army----------

2,500,000 Infantry
2,000,000 Logistics
1,000,000 Airborne
+150,000 MV/702 Lifters
1,000,000 Heavy Infantry
1,000,000 Mechanised Infantry
+100,000 Mk. II X-V253 APCs
250,000 Combat Engineers
250,000 Field Hospital
100,000 Honor Guard

50,000 D-V8/967 Attack Helicopters
50,000 2H14/8 Transport Helicopters

10,000 HG-23R AA guns
50,000 95/H2 SP Artillery Pieces

1,000,000 1-X/456 Harbinger MBTs
50,000 XaC-654 AFVs
50,000 L9-[7]-4RD IFVs

100,000 Trucks (Some modified for engineering and ambulance use)

----------Air Force----------

150,000 Mk. IV Q-6G A Fighter Planes
50,000 AVG-673 Bombers
10,000 GdV80 Advanced Fighters
10,000 O-870 Heavy Bombers
5,000 Q-34H Stealth Fighters
5,000 Rv-413 Stealth Bombers
100 RC spy planes

----------Navy----------

50,000 Trojan Fighter/Bombers
10,000 Naval Helicopters

800 Auxillery ships
800 Submarines
600 Destroyers
500 Escort Ships
200 Cruisers
150 Missile Cruisers
100 Heavy Cruisers
100 Battleships
100 Heavy Submarines
50 Aircraft Carriers
50 Artillery Ships

----------Marines----------

250,000 Spec Ops Commandos
+25,000 NVM-908 IFVs
250,000 Anti-tank soldiers
250,000 Mortar Soldiers
150,000 Anti-Aircraft Soldiers


-------------------------------------

Equiptment:
Mk. XI H-V56 Carbine
KX-103/67 .45 ACP
MM615 Flamethrower
H/VR-708 Grenade Launcher
Combat Knife
Mk. IV X-05 Fragmentation Grenades

Armor:
ViM-596 Bullet Dampening dual layer Carpace armor [standard]
ViM-597/45 Extended Carpace Armor [Heavy infantry]
Kevlar vest [Logistics, Field Hospital, Combat Engineers]

----------Nuclear WMDs/WMD Factories/Bunkers----------

[CLASSIFIED]
Beautiful Yalaluxurios
02-08-2005, 17:15
Woah WW: 500 Aircraft Carriers!?!? I thought my 50 was stretching it! the Us only has like 10.
Maineiacs
02-08-2005, 17:30
Tell me you added an extra digit by mistake. :eek:
Maineiacs
02-08-2005, 17:32
There's a page somewhere that lets one calculate millitary size by NS population figures and government type. Does anyone know the link?
Beautiful Yalaluxurios
02-08-2005, 17:46
Tell me you added an extra digit by mistake. :eek:
Me?
Maineiacs
02-08-2005, 18:25
No, not you BY. I meant WW. 500??? WTF? I totally missed that. BTW, do you know what he meant by "mechs"?
Beautiful Yalaluxurios
02-08-2005, 20:33
Hmmm... Maybe like Mechwarrior or Mech Assault

Basicly a big robot (with pilot) with xtreme killing power
Defuniak
02-08-2005, 21:15
500 is certainly WAY too much. I won't post an IC military calculation because I want my military to be a "surprise" plus, i'm pretty lazy. :cool:
Maineiacs
03-08-2005, 00:08
Hmmm... Maybe like Mechwarrior or Mech Assault

Basicly a big robot (with pilot) with xtreme killing power

See, that's what I thought. I won't allow those. This isn't an anime/ video game RP.
[NS]Wars World
03-08-2005, 03:11
OOC: Ah. I thought you were talking to me about the "no mechs" thing. My bad. And no, that wasn't a mistake, but I will lower it to fifty I guess... I'll just add more battleships or something. Update...

Wars World Military

4,000,000 Soldiers
30,000,000 clones
600,000 Reserve
16,000,000 Augury-class Armor Suits (Achieved production rights)

Army

Infantries: 200,000
Mechs: 200,000
Recons: 100,000
APCs: 100,000
Artilleries: 50,000
Tanks: 100,000
Anti-Airs: 100,000
Missiles: 50,000
Rockets: 50,000
Medium Tanks: 100,000
HM90 Cerberus MBTs 500,000

Navy

Landers: 100,000
Cruiser/Destroyers: 2,000
Submarines: 500
Nuclear ICBM Submarines: 500
Battleships: 1,500
Carriers: 50


Air Force

T-Copters: 100,000
B-Copters: 100,000
Fighters: 200,000
Bombers: 20,000
Stealth Bombers: 20,000


Nuclear WMDs/WMD Factories/Bunkers

Hellas V Thermonuclear Bombs: 15
LGM-118 Peacekeepers: 100
Nuclear ICBM Silos: 215(Building)
Nuclear Reactors: 50(Building)
Heavy Water Plants: 50(Building
Civilian Bunker Complexes: 250(Building)
Leadership Bunkers: 100(Building)
Maineiacs
03-08-2005, 03:15
Wars World']OOC: Ah. I thought you were talking to me about the "no mechs" thing. My bad. And no, that wasn't a mistake, but I will lower it to fifty I guess... I'll just add more battleships or something. Update...

Wars World Military

4,000,000 Soldiers
30,000,000 clones
600,000 Reserve
16,000,000 Augury-class Armor Suits (Achieved production rights)

Army

Infantries: 200,000
Mechs: 200,000
Recons: 100,000
APCs: 100,000
Artilleries: 50,000
Tanks: 100,000
Anti-Airs: 100,000
Missiles: 50,000
Rockets: 50,000
Medium Tanks: 100,000
HM90 Cerberus MBTs 500,000

Navy

Landers: 100,000
Cruiser/Destroyers: 2,000
Submarines: 500
Nuclear ICBM Submarines: 500
Battleships: 1,500
Carriers: 50


Air Force

T-Copters: 100,000
B-Copters: 100,000
Fighters: 200,000
Bombers: 20,000
Stealth Bombers: 20,000


Nuclear WMDs/WMD Factories/Bunkers

Hellas V Thermonuclear Bombs: 15
LGM-118 Peacekeepers: 100
Nuclear ICBM Silos: 215(Building)
Nuclear Reactors: 50(Building)
Heavy Water Plants: 50(Building
Civilian Bunker Complexes: 250(Building)
Leadership Bunkers: 100(Building)


I was talking to you about the "no mechs" thing. You can't have them. No one can. And BTW, 30,000,000 clones? 20,000 stealth bombers? A bit excessive, don't you think? Wars are one thing, folks. Laying waste to the entire planet is another. I really didn't intend for this to turn into a "whoever is left standing wins" RP. Of course you should have millitaries and millitary action, but I didn't want this to be about nothing else but millitary action. And what are Hellas V bombs and T- and B-copters? These are thing that already exist in RL I assume?
Beautiful Yalaluxurios
03-08-2005, 04:09
um, 1.5k battleships? wow. Thats still a bunch.
Wasted Genius
03-08-2005, 05:52
Here's the link to the military calculator.

http://twr.1colony.com/ver8/calc8.0.html

Works fine with Internet Explorer, but not at all with with Firefox.

Last time I tried it, it was pretty close. 380M population yielded a military of about 1.2M active + reserve.

BTW, the whole MechWarrior thing is set in the year 3063. Not that I've played it that much or just happen to have the box sitting right here. And I think Microsoft/FASA has a trademark on the word "mech" so nobody else is really using the term. So by my calculation, you only need to wait abooooout 12,684 days (34.75 years) before mechs can be introduced to Earth NA. Too bad, I'd really like to fire up a Daishi and go to town. *slaps self for admitting gaming weakness* :headbang:
Maineiacs
03-08-2005, 06:36
Maineiacs Millitary Deployment

Source: Defence Department

Active duty Personnel: 997,500
Reserve Personnel: 52,500
Defense Budget: $36,792,000,000,000 (88,602,560,000,000ECr)
Budget per soldier: $3,504,000/ year
Army:

300 Abrams MBTs
600 APCs
400 TOW artillery
500 150 mm Radar artillery
200 Blackhawk helicopters
200 Apache helicopters
1000 Tomahawk missles

Air force:
1200 F-18 Fighters
200 Stealth Bombers
350 Refeuling aircraft

Navy/ Marines
4 Iowa class aircraft carriers
40 Frigates
40 AEGIS cruisers
55 Destroyers
80 Submarimes
20 SLBM nucleclear subs

nuclear forces:
750 ICBMs
500 MRBMs
500 SRBMs

OOC: I really don't don't know much about millitary weapons systems, and would appreciate any helpful advice.
Sinsability
03-08-2005, 06:47
I'm not sure, but I think the basic military advice of the modern era is to declare some country that your father failed to follow through on has weapons way beyond their economical and technological means and immediately lay siege on them. It helps to declare that another nearby country is harboring international criminals (not one you have multi-billion dollar contracts with) to get your troops 90% closer to the above-mentioned country.

(Have I read the entire thread? No, just looking for an excuse to spout some redundant rhetoric.)

Long live the esteemed country of Sinsability!
Wasted Genius
03-08-2005, 06:52
I was curious as to how much food 30,000,000 clones would eat everyday. Here's the math:

The average male eats 440 pounds of food each year or 1.20548 pounds of food every day.

For 30 million clones, thats 18,082 tons of food required per day or about 6.6 million tons per year, which is equivalent to roughly 10 percent of the US wheat output per year.

Current price for a ton of wheat is roughly $200, so the clone mealticket runs about $120M/day or $44B/year, if they like a simple bread-and-water only diet.

And yes, I do have way too much time on my hands right now.
Maineiacs
03-08-2005, 07:06
I'm not sure, but I think the basic military advice of the modern era is to declare some country that your father failed to follow through on has weapons way beyond their economical and technological means and immediately lay siege on them. It helps to declare that another nearby country is harboring international criminals (not one you have multi-billion dollar contracts with) to get your troops 90% closer to the above-mentioned country.

(Have I read the entire thread? No, just looking for an excuse to spout some redundant rhetoric.)

Long live the esteemed country of Sinsability!


Good point, at least I think so, but you need to know this is a CLOSED RP.
Maineiacs
03-08-2005, 07:09
I was curious as to how much food 30,000,000 clones would eat everyday. Here's the math:

The average male eats 440 pounds of food each year or 1.20548 pounds of food every day.

For 30 million clones, thats 18,082 tons of food required per day or about 6.6 million tons per year, which is equivalent to roughly 10 percent of the US wheat output per year.

Current price for a ton of wheat is roughly $200, so the clone mealticket runs about $120M/day or $44B/year, if they like a simple bread-and-water only diet.

And yes, I do have way too much time on my hands right now.

In other words, Wars World, CUT DOWN YOUR MILLITARY TO REALISTIC LEVELS. YOU"RE NOT MING THE MERCILESS, YOU KNOW. AND NO MECHWARRIORS!!!
[NS]Wars World
03-08-2005, 17:58
I was talking to you about the "no mechs" thing. You can't have them. No one can. And BTW, 30,000,000 clones? 20,000 stealth bombers? A bit excessive, don't you think? Wars are one thing, folks. Laying waste to the entire planet is another. I really didn't intend for this to turn into a "whoever is left standing wins" RP. Of course you should have millitaries and millitary action, but I didn't want this to be about nothing else but millitary action. And what are Hellas V bombs and T- and B-copters? These are thing that already exist in RL I assume?
OOC: Oh! No no no. You misunderstand, Mechs are basically infantry with bazooka's known as mechanized infantry in Advance Wars (GBA game) I am NOT basing it off mechs like Mech Warriors and such.

And I bought those clones fair and square. And remember that I control ALL of Europe (except Cyprus), Russia, Alaska, Hawaii, and undoubtedly a couple other things I missed. I'm bound to have TONS of agricultural food, not to mention the food I've gotten from trading.

But... if it makes you all happier, I'll cut my clones down to 20 million. Is that acceptable, or do I have to keep nerfing my military? I buy clones only because I have a ton of land to control, and I still do not have adequate numbers of troops to control it all.

And yes, I have 20,000 stealth bombers because I am a militaristic nation. I make military items. I control almost 1/4 to 1/3 of the ENTIRE world for Chrissakes, so I'm bound to have tons of resources. If I must though, I will lower it to 10,000. Is THAT acceptable?

And the thermonuclear bombs were also bought and YES, LEGAL. Are you going to start having me nerf that too? Maybe I'll just have it planned or something and won't introduce it till October.

Also, I just remembered, I'm not basing off the US Military, know why? I'm at least 7 times the SIZE of the United States. Thus, it's only reasonable I have a bigger armed force.

Ok... how about this? I present you my original military, and YOU shape it to what you think it realistic ok? Remember that I have about 5 million in my army, a little under 1% of my population. I tried to make it fair by splitting it up EVENLY between my three main groups, (army navy and air force) so if you nerf me WAY too much , I'm going to protest. LOUDLY.

Sigh... I apologize if this offends anyone. You caught me in a bad mood. Here's my army, do what you deem is "fair". And remember my Mech's are basically the Vehicle killing equivilent of Infantry. (Play Advance Wars if you don't know what I'm talking about.)

Wars World Military

5,000,000 Soldiers
20,000,000 clones
25,000,000 Augury-class Armor Suits (Achieved production rights)

Army

Infantries: 700,000
Mechs(Vehicle killing infantry): 700,000
Recons: 100,000
APCs: 100,000
Artilleries: 50,000
Tanks: 100,000
Anti-Airs: 100,000
Missiles: 50,000
Rockets: 50,000
Medium Tanks: 100,000
HM90 Cerberus MBTs 500,000

Navy

Landers: 100,000
Cruiser/Destroyers: 2,000
Submarines: 500
Nuclear ICBM Submarines: 500
Battleships: 1,500
Carriers: 50


Air Force

Transport Copters: 100,000
Battle Copters: 100,000
Fighters: 200,000
Bombers: 20,000
Stealth Bombers: 10,000


Nuclear WMDs/WMD Factories/Bunkers

Hellas V Thermonuclear Bombs: 15(Planned)
LGM-118 Peacekeepers: 100(Planned)
Nuclear ICBM Silos: 215(Building)
Nuclear Reactors: 50(Building)
Heavy Water Plants: 50(Building)
Civilian Bunker Complexes: 250(Building)
Leadership Bunkers: 100(Building)
Beautiful Yalaluxurios
03-08-2005, 18:26
I thought mechanised infantry was generally infantry mouted in APCs or IFVs?
James Carterville
03-08-2005, 18:39
:sniper: :mp5: :mp5: Alright folks, here it is. Earth NA!

I'll start by posting a few guidelines (not many) and the maps.

1. All normal rules for posting on NS apply here.

2. Try to keep it IC, if possible

3. You can RP anything and everything: trade, diplomacy, war, internal stuff, etc.

4. Geographic note: for RP purposes, coastal Greenland and Antarctica will have a cold pine forest climate (like central Alaska or Siberia). Interior Greenland and Antarctica are tundra. Play all other areas as the climate and topography they have in RL.

5. You can either RP your countries with the population demographics they have in RL, or with what you created for you NS nation.

6. Feel free to rename geographic features, but make sure others know what they're called in our world.

ok, now to the maps...

http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/3598/africa3ev.png (http://www.imageshack.us)

Africa

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/125/asia0ab.png (http://imageshack.us)

Asia


URL=http://imageshack.us]http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/7919/aussie2sv.png[/URL]
Oceania

URL=http://imageshack.us]http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/782/europe0gf.png[/URL]

Europe

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/1928/northamerica7gy.png (http://imageshack.us)

North America

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/1840/southamerica1ep.png (http://www.imageshack.us)

South America
:sniper: :mp5: how the crap do you declare war
Maineiacs
03-08-2005, 20:42
Wars World']OOC: Oh! No no no. You misunderstand, Mechs are basically infantry with bazooka's known as mechanized infantry in Advance Wars (GBA game) I am NOT basing it off mechs like Mech Warriors and such.

And I bought those clones fair and square. And remember that I control ALL of Europe (except Cyprus), Russia, Alaska, Hawaii, and undoubtedly a couple other things I missed. I'm bound to have TONS of agricultural food, not to mention the food I've gotten from trading.

But... if it makes you all happier, I'll cut my clones down to 20 million. Is that acceptable, or do I have to keep nerfing my military? I buy clones only because I have a ton of land to control, and I still do not have adequate numbers of troops to control it all.

And yes, I have 20,000 stealth bombers because I am a militaristic nation. I make military items. I control almost 1/4 to 1/3 of the ENTIRE world for Chrissakes, so I'm bound to have tons of resources. If I must though, I will lower it to 10,000. Is THAT acceptable?

And the thermonuclear bombs were also bought and YES, LEGAL. Are you going to start having me nerf that too? Maybe I'll just have it planned or something and won't introduce it till October.

Also, I just remembered, I'm not basing off the US Military, know why? I'm at least 7 times the SIZE of the United States. Thus, it's only reasonable I have a bigger armed force.

Ok... how about this? I present you my original military, and YOU shape it to what you think it realistic ok? Remember that I have about 5 million in my army, a little under 1% of my population. I tried to make it fair by splitting it up EVENLY between my three main groups, (army navy and air force) so if you nerf me WAY too much , I'm going to protest. LOUDLY.

Sigh... I apologize if this offends anyone. You caught me in a bad mood. Here's my army, do what you deem is "fair". And remember my Mech's are basically the Vehicle killing equivilent of Infantry. (Play Advance Wars if you don't know what I'm talking about.)

Wars World Military

5,000,000 Soldiers
20,000,000 clones
25,000,000 Augury-class Armor Suits (Achieved production rights)

Army

Infantries: 700,000
Mechs(Vehicle killing infantry): 700,000
Recons: 100,000
APCs: 100,000
Artilleries: 50,000
Tanks: 100,000
Anti-Airs: 100,000
Missiles: 50,000
Rockets: 50,000
Medium Tanks: 100,000
HM90 Cerberus MBTs 500,000

Navy

Landers: 100,000
Cruiser/Destroyers: 2,000
Submarines: 500
Nuclear ICBM Submarines: 500
Battleships: 1,500
Carriers: 50


Air Force

Transport Copters: 100,000
Battle Copters: 100,000
Fighters: 200,000
Bombers: 20,000
Stealth Bombers: 10,000


Nuclear WMDs/WMD Factories/Bunkers

Hellas V Thermonuclear Bombs: 15(Planned)
LGM-118 Peacekeepers: 100(Planned)
Nuclear ICBM Silos: 215(Building)
Nuclear Reactors: 50(Building)
Heavy Water Plants: 50(Building)
Civilian Bunker Complexes: 250(Building)
Leadership Bunkers: 100(Building)

What we have here is a failure to communicate :D Thanks for clearing up the mech thing. Those are, of course, acceptable. Your current levels are fine, you don't need to reduce further. I wasn't questioning your right to have nukes, I was just curious about the Hellas V. I've not heard of it before. Your forces are perfectly acceptable. Scary, but acceptable.
Maineiacs
03-08-2005, 20:44
:sniper: :mp5: :mp5:
:sniper: :mp5: how the crap do you declare war


You don't. You're not in this RP.
Wasted Genius
03-08-2005, 21:04
Wars World']OOC: Oh! No no no. You misunderstand, Mechs are basically infantry with bazooka's known as mechanized infantry in Advance Wars (GBA game) I am NOT basing it off mechs like Mech Warriors and such.

Your right, I misunderstood. Chalk it up to too many hours behind the wheel of a Daishi :)

And I bought those clones fair and square. And remember that I control ALL of Europe (except Cyprus), Russia, Alaska, Hawaii, and undoubtedly a couple other things I missed. I'm bound to have TONS of agricultural food, not to mention the food I've gotten from trading.

I think my resistance to the clone thing is that usually when players amass big numbers of anything their hidden agenda is to "Rule the World." Like I was saying to Defuniak, that scenario usually wraps itself up pretty quickly and everybody justs ends up starting over again on another thread.

It doesn't sound like thats what your up to though. :)

But... if it makes you all happier, I'll cut my clones down to 20 million. Is that acceptable, or do I have to keep nerfing my military? I buy clones only because I have a ton of land to control, and I still do not have adequate numbers of troops to control it all.

Speaking for myself, I see the clone thing as an anomally that comes out of the need to balance the NS figures with what seems normal in RL. It seems perfectly rational that a player that has paid their dues in NS and has built a population wants to be able to play that scenario someplace. Then again, there is the somewhat realistic cost that decreases the efficiency of big numbers of anything. My tongue-in-cheek calc of the cost of feeding clones was intended to highlight this paradox. I'm surprised nobody has called me a wank yet. (I'm not, really I'm not) :)


And yes, I have 20,000 stealth bombers because I am a militaristic nation. I make military items. I control almost 1/4 to 1/3 of the ENTIRE world for Chrissakes, so I'm bound to have tons of resources. If I must though, I will lower it to 10,000. Is THAT acceptable?

Probably true about the resources but if you ever need more, Wasted Genius would love to sell them to you at a competitive price... (This message sponsored by the WG Ministry of Trade ;) )

Ok... how about this? I present you my original military, and YOU shape it to what you think it realistic ok? Remember that I have about 5 million in my army, a little under 1% of my population. I tried to make it fair by splitting it up EVENLY between my three main groups, (army navy and air force) so if you nerf me WAY too much , I'm going to protest. LOUDLY.

Not my job to nerf, only to annoy through wanking. (Just kidding, I'm not a wank, really I'm not!!)

Sigh... I apologize if this offends anyone. You caught me in a bad mood. Here's my army, do what you deem is "fair". And remember my Mech's are basically the Vehicle killing equivilent of Infantry. (Play Advance Wars if you don't know what I'm talking about.)


No offense taken here. Also, I was in a pretty giddy mood last night when I made my posts.

BTW, I'm thinking about a possible mercenary augmentation of my tiny, outdated military. It's a lot less trouble than rebuilding my own military. I'll have to run the concept past my allies to see if they have objections/requirements. It would be kind of like international trade, no?

Wasted Genius
Recovering Wank
Defuniak
04-08-2005, 04:32
:( Ughhhhhh...... Wars World, 50,000 is not quite right. Do you know the cost of maintaning ONE????

Even with Eurupe and Russia, You simply don't have the capabilities for 50,000

500 Carriers? Same thing! That's GodModing To Me. I read the other posts, and i don'y carry about his whoopety doo armour, it's the big stuff that i'm displeased about. :(
Defuniak
04-08-2005, 04:38
-snip-

It doesn't sound like thats what your up to though. :)

-snip-


I'm not sure if i can side with you on that one...


I'm displeased with Wars World's....... Immature Militaristic Figures..... If He Gets To Do That, I can do it too. If I want too I guess i can go *poof* tooand an army appears. I guess I get to too.....


*POOF*



Now I have 200 million clones!
Maineiacs
04-08-2005, 04:51
You know, I guess this was all my fault. I haven't been very effective at maintaining order. I apologize to all of you. I simply couldn't come up with a way to mediate without everyone getting pissed off. Why was it so important to all of you that you do nothing but millitary conquest? what was wrong with RPing other stuff as well? What should we do now? Disband? Blow the hell out of each other? What was it you wanted me to do, other than each of you wanted me to always rule in favor of yourselves?
Wasted Genius
04-08-2005, 04:57
"Blue Line" to put passengers, cargo and WG's trade economy on the fast track



Boise, ID - Wasted Genius' Ministry of Transportation announced today that it has started work on the first link of its high-speed railway network. Jo Aksos, Minister of Transportation said that this first link will originate in Los Angeles, California and terminate in Denver, Colorado.

"We are very excited about taking the first real steps toward implementing our high-speed transit initiative. Upon completion, this link will establish the east-west backbone of the system and will act as a gateway from the continent's interior to the Pacific Rim."

Mr. Aksos commented that the link which is known as "The Blue Line" is projected to enter service by August, 2007. Upon opening, passenger trains are expected to travel at about 170 mph and freight trains at about 125 mph. "We've engineered the railbeds and tracks to handle a wide variety of traffic so as locomotive technology evolves we hope to see top speeds of up to 300 mph for passenger service", Mr. Aksos declared.

The real benefit for passengers will be the lower cost of travel. "Our intention is to tip the economic scale in favor of rail transportation in order to drive costs to unbelievably low levels. This fits in with the administration's plan to encourage trade, improve energy efficiency and reduce pollution." When asked what a typical round-trip fare might be, Mr. Aksos declined direct comment but claimed that the goal is somewhere between 20 to 40% less than a comparable airfare.

Though the government's declaration sounds like something everyone could get behind, The Blue Line has its opponents. Le Vanos, of Teamsters Local 72 believes that the new government is showing its true colors, "Colors that are shades of PINK." Mr. Vanos stated his belief that the government is stepping toward a state controlled market economy by favoring rail transport over viable alternatives like trucking and airlines. "This initiative will wipe out the title of long-haul truck driver and at least 30,000 jobs along with it. We're not going to let this train pull out of the station without a fight!"

Neither the Prime Minister or Mr. Aksos chose to comment on the Teamsters claim.
Maineiacs
04-08-2005, 05:19
OOC: Having gotten my little rant out of the way...

IC: From MBC (Maineiacs Broadcasting Corporation)

November 2006 Election Update -- Maineiacs City

Polls across Maineiacs have closed and results are coming in. It looks like a victory For the New Democratic Party in this year's congressional elections. Numbers we have received indicate that the ND's have a plurality in The new Senate and with support from the Reform Party, they will form a majority government. The new approtionment will be New Democrats -- 223, Social Democrats -- 210, Reform -- 146, Socialist -- 31. If these numbers hold, the new Majority Leader will be Sen. Glenn (ND -- Ohio). Most election analysts attribute the shift in power to the new provinces attained from MHDP last year. How Pres. McDermott, now a lame duck president with a hostile Senate, will face this new challenge remains to be seen. Most experts expect a difficult fight over millitary spending.
The 501st Legion
04-08-2005, 05:23
OOC: Just going with the flow.

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IC:

The 501st Legion Armed Forces

Army

1,250,000 Infantry
1,000,000 Logistics
500,000 Airborne
500,000 Heavy infantry
500,000 Mechanised infantry
250,000 Military police
125,000 Combat engineers
125,000 Medical
50,000 Honour guard

25,000 Mil Mi-24P Hind-Fs
12,500 Mil Mi-28N Havocs
25,000 Sikorsky UH-60 Black Hawks
12,500 Sikorsky CH-53E Super Stallions

25,000 M777 howitzers
12,500 M109A6 Paladin self-propelled howitzers

500,000 T-72 MBTs
250,000 T-80 MBTs
125,000 T-90 MBTs
125,000 M2A3 Bradley IFVs

50,000 Humvees (Some modified for engineering and ambulance use)

Air Force

100,000 Lockheed F-16C/D Fighting Falcons (75,000 F-16Cs; 25,000 F-16Ds)
50,000 Sukhoi Su-27 Flankers
25,000 Sukhoi Su-37 Super Flankers
50,000 Rockwell B-1B Lancers
25,000 Tupolev Tu-22M Backfires
12,500 Tupolev Tu-160 Blackjacks
25,000 General Dynamics F-111F Aardvarks
12,500 General Dynamics EF-111A Ravens
5,000 Lockheed F-35A Joint Strike Fighters (CTOL variant)
2,500 Lockheed F/A-22 Raptors
2,500 Lockheed F-117 Nighthawks
1,250 Northrop B-2 Spirits
5,000 Lockheed C-130 Hercules
2,500 Boeing C-17 Globemaster IIIs
1,250 Lockheed C-5 Galaxies
1,250 Boeing E-3 Sentries
1,250 Boeing KC-135 Stratotankers
625 McDonnell Douglas KC-10 Extenders
625 Lockheed AC-130H Spectress
125 Lockheed U-2s

Navy

50,000 Boeing F/A-18E/F Super Hornets (37,500 F/A-18Es; 12,500 F/A-18Fs)
25,000 Grumman F-14D Tomcats
25,000 Grumman A-6E Intruders
5,000 Grumman EA-6B Prowlers
5,000 Boeing AV-8B+ Harrier II Pluses
2,500 Lockheed F-35B Joint Strike Fighters (V/STOL variant)
2,500 Lockheed S-3B Vikings
1,250 Lockheed P-3C Orions
1,250 Grumman E-2C Hawkeyes
5,000 Sikorsky SH-60 Sea Hawks
2,500 Sikorsky CH-53E Super Stallions
1,250 Bell V-22 Ospreys

500 Auxiliary ships (all types)
400 Akula-class attack submarines
200 Oscar II-class guided missile submarines
100 Typhoon-class ballistic missile submarines
300 Spruance-class destroyers
150 Arleigh Burke-class guided missile destroyers
300 Oliver Hazard Perry-class frigates
150 Ticonderoga-class guided missile cruisers
75 Kirov-class battlecruisers
50 Iowa-class battleships
25 Nimitz-class aircraft carriers
50 Tarawa-class amphibious assault ships
25 Wasp-class amphibious assault ships

Marines

250,000 Special ops commandos
125,000 Anti-tank soldiers
125,000 Mortar soldiers
125,000 Anti-aircraft soldiers

25,000 Humvees
12,500 M2A3 Bradley IFVs


Equipment

Small Arms

Combat knife [standard]
Katana and wakizashi [honour guard]
Heckler und Koch USP .45 Tactical [standard]
Fabrique Nationale Five-seveN [special ops]
IMI Desert Eagle .50 Action Express [heavy infantry and honour guard]
Benelli M3 Super 90 [standard]
Benelli M4 Super 90 [special ops]
Pancor Jackhammer [heavy infantry]
Heckler und Koch UMP45 [standard]
Ingram MAC-10 [military police]
Fabrique Nationale P90 [special ops]
Colt M16A2 [standard]
Colt M4A1 Carbine [special ops]
Springfield Armory M14 [military police]
Heckler und Koch G3A3 [heavy infantry and honour guard]
Steyr Scout [standard]
Accuracy International Arctic Warfare Magnum [heavy infantry]
Fabrique Nationale M249 SAW
M72 LAW
M243

Personal Armour

Powered Combat Vest (PCV)

Aircraft-Mounted Weapons

CBU-99 cluster bomb
GBU-10 Paveway II 2000 lb laser-guided bomb
GBU-12 Paveway II 500 lb laser-guided bomb
GBU-16 Paveway II 1000 lb laser-guided bomb
Mark 82 500 lb dumb bomb
Mark 83 1000 lb dumb bomb
Mark 84 2000 lb dumb bomb
BLU-82 Daisy Cutter
GBU-43/B MOAB
AGM-65 Maverick
AGM-84D Harpoon
AGM-84E SLAM
AGM-88 HARM
AGM-114 Hellfire
Vympel R-33 (AA-9 Amos)
Vympel R-73 (AA-11 Alamo)
Vympel R-77 (AA-12 Adder)


WMDs/WMD Factories/Bunkers

CLASSIFIED

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More OOC: My own military model closely follows that of the Yalan military. It is also abnormally large for a nation of the 501st Legion's size; we are the Armed Republic, after all, and we are militaristic as heck.
Maineiacs
04-08-2005, 05:31
Fine by me. Jeez, I'm the weakling here, huh? Good thing I've got allies.
Beautiful Yalaluxurios
04-08-2005, 05:47
I'm not sure if i can side with you on that one...


I'm displeased with Wars World's....... Immature Militaristic Figures..... If He Gets To Do That, I can do it too. If I want too I guess i can go *poof* tooand an army appears. I guess I get to too.....


*POOF*



Now I have 200 million clones!

Where as i know WW was pushing it a bit with the clones, he actually Rp bought them , at a storefront. He spent his money so he deserves his return. all 30,000,000 of them. I guess
Maineiacs
04-08-2005, 05:56
I have to know: Are people objecting on strategic/ logistical reasons, or just looking to tip the balance in their favor. WW, do you have logical reasons for the size of your millitary, or are you just looking to crush everyone? What can I do to fairly restore order to this RP?
Wasted Genius
04-08-2005, 06:05
Fine by me. Jeez, I'm the weakling here, huh? Good thing I've got allies.

Hey! I thought I was the weakling! Thats not fair!

*slaps self for being a weak weakling*

The worst part about this is that I'm one of your allies. :D
Maineiacs
04-08-2005, 06:13
Hey! I thought I was the weakling! Thats not fair!

*slaps self for being a weak weakling*

The worst part about this is that I'm one of your allies. :D


Yeah. You, me, MHDP, and Charyania (where is he, BTW) all 4 combined don't equal WW or BY alone. I do have a lot of nukes, though. :D
Beautiful Yalaluxurios
04-08-2005, 06:25
Yalaluxurios invades Teymor!

Earlier today Yalan forces stormed over the Yalaluxurios/Teymor Antarctican border, lauching a full on frontal assualt on the Teymorian land. Unidentified military and goverment authorities inform that Yalaluxurios gave a clear, obviouse message, and as it was not returned, they were forced to invade, as stated in the message.

Yalan troops appear to have made large headway into Teymorian antarctica, and and battles are still blazing across Antartica.


Yalan Casualties:
1,326 KIA
4,562 WIA
12 MIA

Teymorian Casualties:
2,607 KIA
6,801 WIA
665 CIA
Wasted Genius
04-08-2005, 06:31
7. All decisions are FINAL.

Maineiacs: To answer your question about how to restore order, I found this on post #137.

Everyone else: If anyone has a problem with this concept you should have brought it up awhile ago. Oy! just pick an army already, but for the love of god, please pick an army that won't make you look like the only way you can win a fight is through superiority of numbers.


Clones/no clones, who cares? The challenge here is to use your imagination to outsmart the enemy when they actually attack you with a post that says something on the order of "I attack you with my 30 bazillion clones who are impervious to all types of weaponry you might have in your arsenal."
Wasted Genius
04-08-2005, 06:42
Yeah. You, me, MHDP, and Charyania (where is he, BTW) all 4 combined don't equal WW or BY alone. I do have a lot of nukes, though. :D


Not sure about MHDP or Charyania, maybe lurking, maybe vacation.

Can you nuke your own thread? If so, keep working on the fusion bomb er, I mean reactor. It makes a bigger noise when it goes off. On that note:

IC: Since WG has recently formalized diplomatic relations with Maineiacs, we would like to offer the use of our high-energy test facilities in New Mexico and California to assist you with any research capacities you may require. Our New Mexico site is home to one of the most powerful particle accelerators in the world. Our Livermore, California site specializes in magnetic containment vessel research.

Sincerely,

At Tomas
Minister of Science and Technology
The Most Serene Republic of Wasted Genius
Maineiacs
04-08-2005, 06:57
Maineiacs: To answer your question about how to restore order, I found this on post #137.

Everyone else: If anyone has a problem with this concept you should have brought it up awhile ago. Oy! just pick an army already, but for the love of god, please pick an army that won't make you look like the only way you can win a fight is through superiority of numbers.


Clones/no clones, who cares? The challenge here is to use your imagination to outsmart the enemy when they actually attack you with a post that says something on the order of "I attack you with my 30 bazillion clones who are impervious to all types of weaponry you might have in your arsenal."


I like the way you think. How would you like to moderate the thread while I go on vacation on the 20th?
Maineiacs
04-08-2005, 07:02
Not sure about MHDP or Charyania, maybe lurking, maybe vacation.

Can you nuke your own thread? If so, keep working on the fusion bomb er, I mean reactor. It makes a bigger noise when it goes off. On that note:

IC: Since WG has recently formalized diplomatic relations with Maineiacs, we would like to offer the use of our high-energy test facilities in New Mexico and California to assist you with any research capacities you may require. Our New Mexico site is home to one of the most powerful particle accelerators in the world. Our Livermore, California site specializes in magnetic containment vessel research.

Sincerely,

At Tomas
Minister of Science and Technology
The Most Serene Republic of Wasted Genius


The Free Land of Maineiacs thanks you for the offer and we will reciprocate with any research data from our facility in Stony Brook and our soon-to-be-operational site at Oak Ridge, Cumberland Province (Tennessee). Containment remains our one major problem.

Miguel Figueroa,
Energy Secretary
The Free Land of Maineiacs

OOC: I already have thermonuclear capability. I really am working on a clean reactor. But I don't mind the help.
[NS]Wars World
04-08-2005, 09:45
I'm not sure if i can side with you on that one...


I'm displeased with Wars World's....... Immature Militaristic Figures..... If He Gets To Do That, I can do it too. If I want too I guess i can go *poof* tooand an army appears. I guess I get to too.....


*POOF*



Now I have 200 million clones!
Woah woah woah. Time out. Let me explain something to you. I bought those clones. With my nation's money. I admit 30 million is a bit high, but I still deserve them because I got them fairly.

Also remember, my nation is large, larger than the United States. I have a higher access to resources. My nation is also militaristic, so undoubtedly I'm going to have lots of military stuff. I've also passed an issue where it was legal to clone human beings. All it took is a little government involvement, some military training and voila.

Yes, I admit I had too many Carriers and Stealth Bomber. Big deal. All it needed was a polite suggestion(and me in a better attitude), and I changed it to make it more fair.

And my nation's policy now, is to keep the peace and the borders strong. Therefore, I'm going to need a mighty big military and police force to get the job done.

And to all of you, I'm not trying to start fights here or big godmodding wars. I just want to have fun, AND secure my nation from others to KEEP having fun. If you think my armed forces are a little too unrealistic at the moment, tell me in a polite manner, (and be sure to catch me in a good mood :p) and we'll talk.

Now that THAT'S settled and my current armed forces established, let's shut up and RP. :)
Defuniak
04-08-2005, 17:32
Wars World']Woah woah woah. Time out. Let me explain something to you. I bought those clones. With my nation's money. I admit 30 million is a bit high, but I still deserve them because I got them fairly.

Also remember, my nation is large, larger than the United States. I have a higher access to resources. My nation is also militaristic, so undoubtedly I'm going to have lots of military stuff. I've also passed an issue where it was legal to clone human beings. All it took is a little government involvement, some military training and voila.

Yes, I admit I had too many Carriers and Stealth Bomber. Big deal. All it needed was a polite suggestion(and me in a better attitude), and I changed it to make it more fair.

And my nation's policy now, is to keep the peace and the borders strong. Therefore, I'm going to need a mighty big military and police force to get the job done.

And to all of you, I'm not trying to start fights here or big godmodding wars. I just want to have fun, AND secure my nation from others to KEEP having fun. If you think my armed forces are a little too unrealistic at the moment, tell me in a polite manner, (and be sure to catch me in a good mood :p) and we'll talk.



Now that THAT'S settled and my current armed forces established, let's shut up and RP. :)


That's what I'm saying. If you can buy them, I can clone my 200 million myself. If i give every one of them a stick, a loaf of bread, and some beer, i would still win. Because I cloned them from a vetern soldier, where the clones you got might of come from poop. :cool:
Defuniak
04-08-2005, 17:33
And in case you didn't know, poop isn't good at fighting.... :p
Maineiacs
04-08-2005, 18:00
That's what I'm saying. If you can buy them, I can clone my 200 million myself. If i give every one of them a stick, a loaf of bread, and some beer, i would still win. Because I cloned them from a vetern soldier, where the clones you got might of come from poop. :cool:


Just take some stem cells, and place them near a Shakey's Pizza
Wars World
04-08-2005, 21:15
That's what I'm saying. If you can buy them, I can clone my 200 million myself. If i give every one of them a stick, a loaf of bread, and some beer, i would still win. Because I cloned them from a vetern soldier, where the clones you got might of come from poop. :cool:
You're taking it too far. OF COURSE you can't clone 200 million at one time, because it's not realistic. And before you start bitching at ME about how I'm not realistic, I'm promising that from now on, I can only make a million clones a year, or a million every 12 days. Ok? Is that fair?

Why do you escalate this conflict? Why don't you telegram me and we can talk there? And Maineiacs, you're not helping keeping the peace. Matter of fact, you're escalating it.

Now please. PLEASE. Let's just RP.

IC:

The prime minister has been dismissed! The parliament today, after the monthly "exam" of the prime minister, has just announced that new elections are being called for.

The prime ministers running are:

Samuel J. Jennings. Running for the Orange Star party. Orange Star's are pro-democracy, liberal, and pro-environment.

Dimitri K. Vladkov. Running for the Blue Moon party. Blue Moon's are pro-military, conservative, and pro-economy.

Klaus von Hebertstein. Running for the Green Earth party. Green Earth's are also pro-military, conservative, but pro-environment.

Sei Takasuki. Running for the Yellow Comet party. Yellow Comet's are pro-peace, liberal, and pro-economy.

And Vock A. Sadnok. Running for the Black Hole party. Black Hole's are pro-military, conservative, and pro-economy.

The public is already begining to vote. International comments and support for a prime minister is welcome.

OOC: Blargh... does ANYONE know what the [NS] in front of a username means? They seem to be one in the same...
Beautiful Yalaluxurios
04-08-2005, 22:05
Yalaluxurios pledges its support for Dimiti Vladkov.
Maineiacs
04-08-2005, 23:08
You're taking it too far. OF COURSE you can't clone 200 million at one time, because it's not realistic. And before you start bitching at ME about how I'm not realistic, I'm promising that from now on, I can only make a million clones a year, or a million every 12 days. Ok? Is that fair?

Why do you escalate this conflict? Why don't you telegram me and we can talk there? And Maineiacs, you're not helping keeping the peace. Matter of fact, you're escalating it.

Now please. PLEASE. Let's just RP.

IC:

The prime minister has been dismissed! The parliament today, after the monthly "exam" of the prime minister, has just announced that new elections are being called for.

The prime ministers running are:

Samuel J. Jennings. Running for the Orange Star party. Orange Star's are pro-democracy, liberal, and pro-environment.

Dimitri K. Vladkov. Running for the Blue Moon party. Blue Moon's are pro-military, conservative, and pro-economy.

Klaus von Hebertstein. Running for the Green Earth party. Green Earth's are also pro-military, conservative, but pro-environment.

Sei Takasuki. Running for the Yellow Comet party. Yellow Comet's are pro-peace, liberal, and pro-economy.

And Vock A. Sadnok. Running for the Black Hole party. Black Hole's are pro-military, conservative, and pro-economy.

The public is already begining to vote. International comments and support for a prime minister is welcome.

OOC: Blargh... does ANYONE know what the [NS] in front of a username means? They seem to be one in the same...


OOC: I'm trying to keep the peace. If everyone would stop behaving like children, maybe I wouldn't have so much trouble being peacekeeper. Charges and counter-charges fly past my head too fast. WW's latest proposal is acceptable. AND I DON'T WANT TO HEAR ANYMORE ABOUT IT!!!!!!! Behave yourselves, kids. This topic is now closed for discussion.

IC: The Government of the Free Land of Maineiacs expresses its support for Mr. Jennings.
Beautiful Yalaluxurios
04-08-2005, 23:31
OOC: screw this, im just gonna skip the boring stuff and get to the point

IC:

War over!

The Yalaluxurios/Teymor war has ended with the Teymorian Surrender. Yalan Troops defeated the stiff Teymorian resitance with the help of heavy air barrages and thousands of troops and vehicles. The Teymorian Prime Minister announced their surrender at 4:30 this afternoon. The Teymorian troops were severley outnumbered, and losing ground quickley. The Yalan government has inducted the surving Teymorian civilians as Yalan citizens. The Teymorian mmilitary survivors were transfered to the Yalan military and re-equipped.

Casualty Reports:

Yalan Casualties:
23,908 KIA
52,067 WIA
605 MIA

Teymorian Casualties:
15,089 KIA
32,876 WIA
549 MIA
The 501st Legion
05-08-2005, 00:32
OOC: The war's over already? Blast! And I was about to mobilize my carrier groups to support BY's invasion of Teymor, too! It would've given me a chance to test the N2 mine in combat as well... Oh well. Next time, I suppose.

IC: The Armed Republic of the 501st Legion lends its support to Samuel J. Jennings.
Beautiful Yalaluxurios
05-08-2005, 03:51
oh, sry, I didnt rly count navy, assume your carriers were unable to navigate heavy ice, as were all other ships
Maineiacs
05-08-2005, 06:20
From MSPN (Maineiacs Sports Network)

Get ready, Maineiacs! It's hockey seaon again! Last year's Stevenson Cup winners, the Maineiacs City Capitals are set to defend their crown, but they have a tought road ahead of them. Also the MHL (Maineiacs Hockey League) has expanded to 21 teams and realigned to a three division format. The new alignment is:

East Division-------------Central Division----------West Division

Maineiacs City Capitals----Carolina Hurricanes------Minneapolis Wild
Quebec Nordiques---------Cumberland Predators---Winnipeg Jets
Newark Devils-------------Philadelphia Flyers------St. Louis Blues
Allegheney Islanders------Pittsburgh Penguins-----Chicago Blackhawks
Acadia Lumberjacks------Ottawa Senators--------Detroit Red Wings
Aroostook Black Bears----Buffalo Sabres----------Columbus Blue Jackets
Boston Bruins-----------Georgetown Rangers-----Toronto Maple Leafs
[NS]Wars World
05-08-2005, 06:50
WWN

We have a winner!

Elected by the people AND the parliament, the new prime minister is... Klaus von Herbertstein! Yes, a surprise underdog has beated the heavily favored Samuel J. Jennings, by a popular vote lead of 250,000 and a parliamentary vote lead of 2 out of 10. This is what he has to say,

"I thank you for selecting me as your prime minister. I have always said, 'keep the environment safe," and I will do that, by strengthening our military, but keeping corporations from overruning our land.

As for my foreign policy, I propose opening up better relations with the North American powers, and strengthening our relations with our allies, Beautiful Yalaluxios, Truitt, and The Hoth System. Give me your trust, and I'll give you proof, that I will make this... a better nation to all..."

This was actually an unusual election, because the party's policies were not clear. This was most likely because of the sudden change in prime ministers, and that the leaders were not prepared.

I'm Chet Baker, and this is Wars World News.
Wasted Genius
05-08-2005, 07:36
Wars World']

We have a winner!

Elected by the people AND the parliament, the new prime minister is... Klaus von Herbertstein!

Mr. Herbertstein,

On behalf of my people, I would like to congratulate you on your election victory. You have joined the community of world leaders at a time when a great many issues are being negotiated and at a time when each decision can have a long lasting impact on the future of Earth NA.

Also, I would like to extend an invitation for you to be my guest and to visit our capitol city, Boise, Idaho at your earliest convenience. I believe this could be an excellent opportunity to become acquainted with each other's world views and to share the culture of Wasted Genius with you.

Sincerely,

At Masok
Prime Minister
The Most Serene Republic of Wasted Genius
Wasted Genius
05-08-2005, 07:52
As he leafed through the pages of his second newspaper of the morning, WG's Prime Minister came across the sports section. It had been the first time in months that he felt at leisure to spend a few minutes and catch up on the real news.

"Hmm," he said out loud as he noticed a particularly interesting article, "could it possibly be time to think about hockey already?!"

And then he faced east, genuflected, and said quietly, "Go Red Wings!!!"
Defuniak
05-08-2005, 22:16
Ok, I'm sorry. I just don't want someone who controls the world, unfairly expanding their military unexectadly. I agree, 1 million per week is good. I start now! *POOF* one million clones. You'll see another poof from me next week!
Beautiful Yalaluxurios
06-08-2005, 01:07
It makes sense for WW, but not for you. You simply dont have acess the that kind of buildup. For WW, he controls Europe and Russia, and could logically be expanding more than 1 mil a week.
Defuniak
06-08-2005, 04:38
;) It might be just a huge cloning center under Aerers Rock in Australia, Plus....... Well, I have a bunch of little islands with volcanoes! Besides, Right now, I would rather live in Japan than in Russia. Japanese are cloning people in RL right now, and Russians are just trying to save a sunk submarine... Kapeesh?
Maineiacs
06-08-2005, 04:50
And who knows what you've dug out underneath Midway...
Maineiacs
06-08-2005, 05:14
From MSPN

Well, hockey fans, throught December, it has been an exciting season.each of the division races is close so far. Let's take a look at the standings

East Division (W-L-T-OTL)Pts

Aroostook 22-10-5-2 78
Boston 16-14-7-1 63
Maineiacs City 17-18-5-1 62
Newark 16-13-5-3 61
Allegheney 17-18-2-1 56
Quebec 14-16-4-5 55
Acadia 13-19-3-3 51

Central Division

Toronto 23-13-3-0 78
Ottawa 18-9-9-2 74
Buffalo 19-15-3-1 67
Philadelphia 20-14-2-2 66
Pittsburgh 18-16-4-1 63
Carolina 16-14-5-4 62
Georgetown 18-18-3-1 61

West Division

Detroit 19-13-5-2 69
Chicago 20-15-2-1 65
St. Louis 18-18-4-3 65
Columbus 15-15-5-3 58
Winnipeg 13-20-5-2 51
Minneapolis 11-19-8-2 51
Cumberland 13-18-4-3 50

(wins get 3 pts, ties get 2, OTL's get 1)
In tonight's only game, Steve Yzerman scored with 2:01 left in OT to lift Detroit 4-3 over Acadia.

Steve Gobell, MSPN wishing you all a happy and safe 2007.
Defuniak
06-08-2005, 18:00
And who knows what you've dug out underneath Midway...
:cool:
Maineiacs
07-08-2005, 00:53
At the research facility on the campus of MUSB, experiments had run into a brick wall. They were raching ever higher temperatures, but were still having serious containment issues. Dr. Elizabeth Parker was more than a little frustrated. "has there been any word from those researchers Wasted Genius promised us?" she asked.
"No. we're still waitng." Said Tom snyder, her research assistant.
"How about Oak Ridge? Any progress from there?"
"No, they're at the same point we are. Don't worry, we're close. I can feel it."
"Well, if we don't solve this problem, all we'll feel is the entire town going up in a blinding flash. Or they may just cut our funding. The ND's and their right-wing buddies in the Senate want more for the millitary."
Wasted Genius
07-08-2005, 07:08
Los Alamos National Laboratory, Los Alamos, NM

"So Dr. Praxo, have you made any headway on the initial report for the Maineiacs scientists?", the section chief inquired. Dr. Praxo had a reputation for being brilliant, but impossibly disheveled when it came to paper work.

"Well Chief, I've got a lot on my desk right now, and the concepts you've asked me to boil down into a few paragraphs are pretty complex. You know anything about 'Charge Sheath Tornados'?"

"Quite frankly, I've only heard the term in passing. Something one of the lightning researchers in Phoenix was talking about."

"Exactly my point. Many scientists have heard of it, but few know that it directly relates to what you've asked me to work on for the Maineiacs Fusion Experiment. But that's just one piece of the puzzle. And that topic alone would require about fifty pages of text to explain with any credibility."

The section chief had heard this story from Praxo too many times to even respond to it. He knew what it meant; Praxo would always be one of those Ivory Tower guys who potentially had answers to a lot of questions. It was just a matter of prying those answers from the chaos that was his mind.

"OK, just give me the highlights. What are the five most important things that your team knows that could help Maineiacs out?" The section chief knew this was that bait that would get Praxo to formulate his thoughts.

"I'll play your game chief. Get a pencil."

Dr. Praxo continued, but this time with that annoying look of superiority geeks get when they think you've asked a question that only they know the answer to. The Section Chief knew that a 'Praxo Info Spew' was headed his way.

"Point one. Ball lightening. Turns out the particle vortex that forms in garden variety lightening can sometimes roll up in a ball momentarily and contain a plasma flux. This is called a Charge Sheath Tornado."

"Point two. This is the same thing that happens on a large scale on the Sun, home of nuclear fusion."

"Point three. A similar field has been formed by very powerful DC motors if their power circuits are interrupted accidentally. Of course, a DC motor is primarily an inductance coil - turn of the (20th) century technology."

"Point four. When the Charge Sheath Tornado breaks down, a huge energy discharge results."

"Point five. The Maineiacs scientists are busy trying to contain their plasma fields. The energy release from ball lightening and solar flares doesn't happen until the containment field dissipates."

"I'll throw in point six as a bonus. In our scenario, nuclear fusion isn't a continuous event, but a continuous string of momentary events. Kind of like setting off an infinite string of firecrackers. Setting up the Charge Sheath Tornado is a matter of fine tuning existing inductance field technology. And containment is safely attainable in all but one region of the reaction. Fortunately, thats where the collector would be aimed. Kind of like a catcher waiting for a pitch."

The section chief got what he was looking for, but a question was forming in his mind.

"Dr. Praxo, if you knew this all along, why haven't you built it for us?"

The section cheif watched as Dr. Praxo's moment of clarity faded into the background of mental noise that was his mind. His next statement only confirmed this assessment.

"Well you know, I've got a ton of paperwork on my desk, and this is really a very complex subject..."
[NS]Wars World
07-08-2005, 20:13
Wars World News Flash!

This just in, Wars World troops have just started moving across Russia and over the Bering Strait into Alaska. Naval troops are also gathering around Hawaii and Alaska. The government has offered no comment, while the military leaders say this is "Just a training exercise." We will keep you updated as this goes on.
Halberdgardia
07-08-2005, 20:17
Wars World']Wars World News Flash!

This just in, Wars World troops have just started moving across Russia and over the Bering Strait into Alaska. Naval troops are also gathering around Hawaii and Alaska. The government has offered no comment, while the military leaders say this is "Just a training exercise." We will keep you updated as this goes on.

Encrypted Transmission to Wars World

Esteemed ally...what are you up to? :p

End Encrypted Transmission to Wars World
Maineiacs
07-08-2005, 21:55
President McDermott has annonced that Maineiacs troops have been put on DefCon 4 and that a mjessage has been sent via diplomatic channels to the government of wars World, to learn what their intentions are.
Wasted Genius
07-08-2005, 22:23
To: The American League (Maineiacs, Charyania and MHDP)

From: The Prime Minister of Wasted Genius

In view of the alarming news that Wars World has mobilized its massive military, The Most Serene Republic of Wasted Genius has elevated its security status to DefCon 4. This state of alert increases security at our military bases and initiates a review of force readiness. Initial reports indicate that our military is at an average readiness of 91% with special forces and rapid deployment units reporting a factor of 98% preparedness.

We have dispatched unarmed observers to our borders with Wars World.
Maineiacs
08-08-2005, 00:22
The Free Land of Maineiacs assures the government of Wasted Genius that we will honor our alliance commitments. Our forces are at 90% readiness, we have increased security at our ports, and we will be at 100% readiness by the beggining of next month.
The 501st Legion
08-08-2005, 01:36
In response to War World's mobilization of its military, President Ayanami has announced that the 501st Legion Armed Forces' alert status has been raised to DEFCON 1. All military forces are currently at 100% readiness. Security has been increased substantially in all major cities, ports, military bases, and airports. Unarmed observers have been dispatched to the 501st Legion's borders. A message has been sent through diplomatic channels to the government of Wars World, and an ambassador has been dispatched to Wars World's capital.
Beautiful Yalaluxurios
08-08-2005, 01:50
Also, Yalan forces have begun to gather with their allies forces in Hawaii and Alaska, to join them in the Training. An official message was releasd today saying that It is, infact, only training. "We are working with the Wars world military to ensure that they are prepared to work together in the defense of our land." Said Grand General Terrif Eniverse, commander of the Yalan Army. Lord Militant Fredrick Lohman (Commander of the Yalan Military) confirmed this statement, saying that "The two militaries needed to be able to cooperate"
[NS]Wars World
08-08-2005, 03:48
The prime minister has announced today that what the military says is, in fact, true. "Our forces, in an especially dangerous world, have to be prepared for anything. Our forces may be too lazy or slow to respond to a threat to our borders."

The prime minister further said, "We apologize for any alarm caused by our troop movements. We assure every bordering country, especially the 501st Leigon, that we intend no harm."

Troops in Hawaii, Alaska, and eastern Russia have been reported to be gathering supplies from the towns and cities in said territories. We will again keep you updated...
Maineiacs
08-08-2005, 04:31
In response to War World's mobilization of its military, President Ayanami has announced that the 501st Legion Armed Forces' alert status has been raised to DEFCON 1. All military forces are currently at 100% readiness. Security has been increased substantially in all major cities, ports, military bases, and airports. Unarmed observers have been dispatched to the 501st Legion's borders. A message has been sent through diplomatic channels to the government of Wars World, and an ambassador has been dispatched to Wars World's capital.


You might want to rephrase that. DefCon 1 ia a state of war, isn't it?
The 501st Legion
08-08-2005, 06:15
You might want to rephrase that. DefCon 1 ia a state of war, isn't it?
OOC: Not exactly. DEFCON 1 is merely the maximum state of military readiness; it is not really a state of war.

IC: In response to the official statement made by Wars World's government, President Ayanami has ordered that the 501st Legion's alert status be reduced back to DEFCON 5. Security has been decreased back to normal levels at all major cities, ports, military bases, and airports. The unarmed observers have been pulled back from the 501st Legion's borders, and the 501st LEgion ambassador has been recalled back to Beijing. Secretary of Defense Matsuki is currently considering allowing 501st Legion military forces to join the Yalan and Wars World militaries in the training exercises; a message has been sent through diplomatic channels to the Wars World government informing them of this.
Maineiacs
08-08-2005, 06:16
"have we completed our readiness drills?" asked Anderson McDermott
"Yes sir, we have. If I might make a suggestion, we should also call up our reseves." said Defense Secretary James Larson.
"Good idea. I'll need to address the Senate."
"I don't think you'll have much trouble getting approval. Hell, that lunatic Buchanan, from Potomac, has been calling for a mandatory draft. We'll look calm and sane by comparison."
"Are our nuclear forces on readiness?" McDermott asked
"All tests have been conducted and show no problems, sir."
"OK, I just pray we don't have to test that theory."
Maineiacs
08-08-2005, 06:18
OOC: Not exactly. DEFCON 1 is merely the maximum state of military readiness; it is not really a state of war.


OK, my bad. :)
Beautiful Yalaluxurios
08-08-2005, 16:44
OOC: Not exactly. DEFCON 1 is merely the maximum state of military readiness; it is not really a state of war.

IC: In response to the official statement made by Wars World's government, President Ayanami has ordered that the 501st Legion's alert status be reduced back to DEFCON 5. Security has been decreased back to normal levels at all major cities, ports, military bases, and airports. The unarmed observers have been pulled back from the 501st Legion's borders, and the 501st LEgion ambassador has been recalled back to Beijing. Secretary of Defense Matsuki is currently considering allowing 501st Legion military forces to join the Yalan and Wars World militaries in the training exercises; a message has been sent through diplomatic channels to the Wars World government informing them of this.

The Yalan goverment reminds the 501st legion that the Yalan/Wars World training is strictly for the respective nations, as we share borders, and have given each other full military support.
Teymor
08-08-2005, 21:28
Hi All! I'm Back! Plus I have a shiny new computer! :cool:


Now, My nation is the same as it was when i left, right?
Beautiful Yalaluxurios
08-08-2005, 22:26
um.. well not exactly <tugs at shirt collar> erg, um... im sure a can find you some, um, new territory...
Beautiful Yalaluxurios
08-08-2005, 22:31
Currently, you have 0 sq kilomiters of territory. I spend some time invading and taking over your territory, Defuniak helped you, but I still managed to capture it all. Ill work out some territory arangements in the near future
Maineiacs
08-08-2005, 22:49
If I might make a suggestion: How about Antarctica? None of you seem to really be using it. You don't have to do it that way, of course, but it might be a good compromise.
Beautiful Yalaluxurios
08-08-2005, 23:03
Woah, that is amazingly incorrect. I care ALOT about what happens with antarctica. I dearly want to keep it. Sorry, but that is not an option.
Beautiful Yalaluxurios
08-08-2005, 23:04
(Btw, fyi, WW and I controll all of antarctica)
Maineiacs
08-08-2005, 23:05
All right then, what do we give Teymor?
Beautiful Yalaluxurios
08-08-2005, 23:08
New Zealand?
Maineiacs
08-08-2005, 23:11
That's up to Halbergardia. And don't you think Teymor should have a litte more? This is mainly going to fall on you and WW. You both control entire continents. You two have by far the most land.
Beautiful Yalaluxurios
08-08-2005, 23:22
About him having more: No. He was inactive and I fairly RPed victory against him. I will give him territory because I belive we need another active player. If he got alot of territory it might make other players think that it was 'ok' for them to be inactive. I understand that Teymor was inavalible because he got a new computer (like me :D) so he should get some. Not too much. I will allow him to have madagascar, but thats all.
Maineiacs
08-08-2005, 23:37
OK, Madagascar and New Zealand then. Case Closed.
The 501st Legion
09-08-2005, 01:10
The Yalan goverment reminds the 501st legion that the Yalan/Wars World training is strictly for the respective nations, as we share borders, and have given each other full military support.
That's fine by me.
[NS]Wars World
09-08-2005, 06:29
OK, Madagascar and New Zealand then. Case Closed.
OOC: Hold on a second. Is that fair to Halberdgardia? Doesn't seem like it to me. I propose giving Teymor just Madagascar, and New Zealand ONLY IF Halberdgardia accepts.

Also, I myself am considering leaving Earth NA, mainly because I'm growing bored with my country, Wars World, and I have started a brand new country, Euroslovakia. I'm still considering it, but if I choose to leave and, in a way, let my Wars World account die, I'm going to give my territory to some of the active nations with relatively few territory, namely Teymor, Halberdgardia, and Truitt.

I'll keep y'all updated... oh yes, and one more thing, I may start a whole new Earth later with my nation, Euroslovakia, and I'll need a good graphic person to help me with the maps, (namely because I have no program to do so. I'm using an iMac.) so if I do choose to leave and create a new Earth, I'll be accepting applications by Telegram and such. Thanks.
Maineiacs
10-08-2005, 04:33
Wars World']OOC: Hold on a second. Is that fair to Halberdgardia? Doesn't seem like it to me. I propose giving Teymor just Madagascar, and New Zealand ONLY IF Halberdgardia accepts.

Also, I myself am considering leaving Earth NA, mainly because I'm growing bored with my country, Wars World, and I have started a brand new country, Euroslovakia. I'm still considering it, but if I choose to leave and, in a way, let my Wars World account die, I'm going to give my territory to some of the active nations with relatively few territory, namely Teymor, Halberdgardia, and Truitt.

I'll keep y'all updated... oh yes, and one more thing, I may start a whole new Earth later with my nation, Euroslovakia, and I'll need a good graphic person to help me with the maps, (namely because I have no program to do so. I'm using an iMac.) so if I do choose to leave and create a new Earth, I'll be accepting applications by Telegram and such. Thanks.


Well, you're welcome to stay, but if you feel you have to leave, ok. To everyone else, if WW does leave, I'll have a proposal to split up his land.
Wasted Genius
10-08-2005, 04:58
*sounds of crickets*
Wasted Genius
10-08-2005, 05:00
OOC: Funny how that works - I posted the "sounds of crickets" thing because it looked like there was an extended lull. It was a bump, not a commentary on whats going on...
Wasted Genius
10-08-2005, 17:46
Well, you're welcome to stay, but if you feel you have to leave, ok. To everyone else, if WW does leave, I'll have a proposal to split up his land.

I definitely don't want to see WW go, but if he does, I think splitting up his land is a good idea. Dibs on Alaska. :)
Beautiful Yalaluxurios
10-08-2005, 17:52
73h ub3r !3u|V|p4g3
[NS]Wars World
10-08-2005, 18:00
Unfortunately, my decision is now final, and I am leaving Earth NA to create a new Earth, Earth X, with my newest nation, Czechoslovakia-(don't mind the -, it's just to allow the name.)

You are all welcome to sign up. There are still PLENTY of spots open.

My final wish for my territory is it to be divided up fairly among the smaller nations, Teymor, Halberdgardia, and the 501st Legion, chief among them.

And with that, I bid farewell.

-Wars World
Halberdgardia
10-08-2005, 19:32
Wars World']Unfortunately, my decision is now final, and I am leaving Earth NA to create a new Earth, Earth X, with my newest nation, Czechoslovakia-(don't mind the -, it's just to allow the name.)

You are all welcome to sign up. There are still PLENTY of spots open.

My final wish for my territory is it to be divided up fairly among the smaller nations, Teymor, Halberdgardia, and the 501st Legion, chief among them.

And with that, I bid farewell.

-Wars World

OOC: Well, in that case, I think I can upgrade Czechoslovakia- to Ally status now. You should have told me it was you! :p

Which country will you be using most often now, so I know which nation to assign the ambassador and alliance to?
Maineiacs
10-08-2005, 19:49
WG gets Alaska. I was going to give it to you anyway. How about Truitt gets Turkey, Armenia, Azerbaijan, and Georgia; Halbergardia gets to keep New Zealand, and gets WW's Antarctic claim; Teymor gets Europe; and 501 and Hoth split Asiatic Russia? Any other ideas?
Halberdgardia
10-08-2005, 19:56
I'm down with that. Although I'd like to take Great Britain, if available and if Teymor doesn't mind. If he wants to keep it, I don't mind. Just wondering.
Maineiacs
10-08-2005, 20:37
I'm down with that. Although I'd like to take Great Britain, if available and if Teymor doesn't mind. If he wants to keep it, I don't mind. Just wondering.


That's between you and Teymor.
Halberdgardia
10-08-2005, 21:05
That's between you and Teymor.

[amicable tone]

Hey, Teymor, old buddy, old pal... Great Britain's lookin' awfully nice there... :p
Wasted Genius
10-08-2005, 22:15
Looks fine to me. At last, Alaska!
Beautiful Yalaluxurios
11-08-2005, 00:07
I would like my chunk of Europe back. I gave it to WW only for alliance purposes and now I want it back. I had: Italy, Spain, France, the UK, and all the other little contries in that area.
Beautiful Yalaluxurios
11-08-2005, 00:08
And also I would like madagascar back seeing that Teymor now has more territory
The 501st Legion
11-08-2005, 02:28
WG gets Alaska. I was going to give it to you anyway. How about Truitt gets Turkey, Armenia, Azerbaijan, and Georgia; Halbergardia gets to keep New Zealand, and gets WW's Antarctic claim; Teymor gets Europe; and 501 and Hoth split Asiatic Russia? Any other ideas?
How about I propose this:

- WG gets Alaska, just as you suggested. He seems content with that, but why don't we give him Sakhalin Island as well?
- Truitt gets the Balkans in addition to Turkey, Armenia, Azerbaijan, and Georgia.
- Halberdgardia keeps New Zealand and gets WW's Antarctic claim, as suggested; he should also get Great Britain just 'cause he wants it so much, and I think he should get Ireland and Iceland as well.
- Teymor gets ALL of Russia. Yeah, that's right.
- Hoth gets Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Poland, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Belarus, and the Ukraine.
- I get whatever's left of Europe.

BY, you already control the entire African continent. That should be enough for you. BTW, I also think you should get Madagascar back.
Halberdgardia
11-08-2005, 02:46
How about I propose this:

- WG gets Alaska, just as you suggested. He seems content with that, but why don't we give him Sakhalin Island as well?
- Truitt gets the Balkans in addition to Turkey, Armenia, Azerbaijan, and Georgia.
- Halberdgardia keeps New Zealand and gets WW's Antarctic claim, as suggested; he should also get Great Britain just 'cause he wants it so much, and I think he should get Ireland and Iceland as well.
- Teymor gets ALL of Russia. Yeah, that's right.
- Hoth gets Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Poland, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Belarus, and the Ukraine.
- I get whatever's left of Europe.

BY, you already control the entire African continent. That should be enough for you. BTW, I also think you should get Madagascar back.

OOC: *gives The 501st Legion a cookie* I'm down with that. Ireland is cool, and I'll take Iceland, but that's by no means necessary. You know, actually looking at this, I'm poised to revive the old 19th-century British Empire; if I get the UK and Ireland, combined with my existing territories, I've got almost all the major British territories, minus Canada and Australia.
Maineiacs
11-08-2005, 03:07
How about I propose this:

- WG gets Alaska, just as you suggested. He seems content with that, but why don't we give him Sakhalin Island as well?
- Truitt gets the Balkans in addition to Turkey, Armenia, Azerbaijan, and Georgia.
- Halberdgardia keeps New Zealand and gets WW's Antarctic claim, as suggested; he should also get Great Britain just 'cause he wants it so much, and I think he should get Ireland and Iceland as well.
- Teymor gets ALL of Russia. Yeah, that's right.
- Hoth gets Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Poland, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Belarus, and the Ukraine.
- I get whatever's left of Europe.

BY, you already control the entire African continent. That should be enough for you. BTW, I also think you should get Madagascar back.


Then this is what we will do, although I'm giving Russia's Kalinningrad Enclave to Hoth. IT's easier that way. BTW, Would someone mind reposting Antarctic claims?
Maineiacs
11-08-2005, 03:44
New maps posted on page #1
Maineiacs
11-08-2005, 05:01
Also, those who haven't posted what their capitals are, would you mind doing so? So far I know:

Maineiacs: Maineiacs City (NYC)

Wasted Genius: Boise, ID

Defuniak: An underground bunker beneath Midway Island

501st: Beijing, China

Charyania: Austin, TX

MHDP: Brasilia, Brazil

Truitt: Jerusalem (I think)
Beautiful Yalaluxurios
11-08-2005, 14:59
Can I Pleeeeeeeeeeeeas have My part of Europe back?
Halberdgardia
11-08-2005, 15:25
Well, my old capitol was New Delhi, but now that I have the UK, I'm moving it to London.
Beautiful Yalaluxurios
11-08-2005, 17:44
Pllllllllleeeeeeeeeaaaaaassssssseeeee
Defuniak
11-08-2005, 22:58
Down with me. I Have one thing to say about midway...



A Bunker underneath Midway....



A scientist ran down the hall screaming " Evacuate The Bunker!!!!"
The other Employees stopped what they were doing, but curious, sent the janitor to the scientific part of the Bunker. As he opened the door, he looked in, and fainted, the creature stared at him, walked towards the fainted janitor, stared, bit off a leg, and starting at the head, but was repulsed by the crunchiness of the glasses. Since the HORRIBLE monster had walked through the center of the room, was caught on camera. Seconds later, a slave with a dart gun ran into the room and shot the creature with a tranquilzer. Now that it was effectively knocked out, the head scientest walked in. "Ah yes, It seems that our new war machine, codenamed "telletuby", is successful. It needs some genetical changes."

( In a few mins. i'll post an image of this repulsive beast.)
Maineiacs
11-08-2005, 23:10
Can I Pleeeeeeeeeeeeas have My part of Europe back?


Take it up with Halbergardia
Maineiacs
11-08-2005, 23:11
Down with me. I Have one thing to say about midway...



A Bunker underneath Midway....



A scientist ran down the hall screaming " Evacuate The Bunker!!!!"
The other Employees stopped what they were doing, but curious, sent the janitor to the scientific part of the Bunker. As he opened the door, he looked in, and fainted, the creature stared at him, walked towards the fainted janitor, stared, bit off a leg, and starting at the head, but was repulsed by the crunchiness of the glasses. Since the HORRIBLE monster had walked through the center of the room, was caught on camera. Seconds later, a slave with a dart gun ran into the room and shot the creature with a tranquilzer. Now that it was effectively knocked out, the head scientest walked in. "Ah yes, It seems that our new war machine, codenamed "telletuby", is successful. It needs some genetical changes."

( In a few mins. i'll post an image of this repulsive beast.)


Is that the gay one? :fluffle: :D
Beautiful Yalaluxurios
12-08-2005, 00:58
Ppppppppplllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaassssss sssssssssssssssseeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The 501st Legion
12-08-2005, 02:22
Then this is what we will do, although I'm giving Russia's Kalinningrad Enclave to Hoth. IT's easier that way. BTW, Would someone mind reposting Antarctic claims?
OOC: I forgot something. I'd like to give Hungary to either Hoth or Truitt; the first of those two nations to post here will get that territory, plain and simple.

And no, BY, you won't be getting Europe back.

As an aside here, what are we gonna do about Charyania and MHDP? They haven't been active in a long time. Are we gonna be patient and wait for them to resurface and become active again, or are we gonna partition their territories just like we did with those other inactive nations?
Wasted Genius
12-08-2005, 03:59
How about I propose this:

- WG gets Alaska, just as you suggested. He seems content with that, but why don't we give him Sakhalin Island as well?

*snip*




OOC: Sakhalin Island. Hmm. If no one else wants it, I'll take it as a protectorate. Man, building a high speed rail to that is going to cost major bucks!
Wasted Genius
12-08-2005, 04:06
-snip-

what are we gonna do about Charyania and MHDP? They haven't been active in a long time. Are we gonna be patient and wait for them to resurface and become active again, or are we gonna partition their territories just like we did with those other inactive nations?

OOC: Maybe we could hold aside a little territory in case somebody new wants to join or some MIA shows up again later. I'm not talking about all of the MHDP and Charyania land, but maybe a "starter set" here and there. Also, I'd be willing to put Northwest Territories up for adoption later if a new player needs someplace to call home. Its not much to look at, but it might do in a pinch.
Beautiful Yalaluxurios
12-08-2005, 04:36
PLEASE
Beautiful Yalaluxurios
12-08-2005, 04:40
Who controlls that land anyways? (my parts of europe)
Wasted Genius
12-08-2005, 05:04
Blue Line May Be Fast, But Many Call It A Road To Nowhere

Boise, Idaho - Today the Ministry of Transportation opened the gates of its first high speed rail link connecting Los Angeles to Denver. Ridership was well below anticipated levels and most of the people on hand were simply there to watch the spectacle. Though the government has promoted the system heavily, public acceptance seems very low. "We thought we were on the right track with this initiative, but it looks like the Blue Line has gotten derailed before the first train left the station," Transportation Minister Jo Aksos lamented.

This reporter asked several onlookers what they thought about the Blue Line:

"Oh, I don't know, I guess its great if you know someone in Denver," one woman commented, "I just have to wonder why we sunk all of that money into it."

Another opening ceremony attendee said, "Its more expensive than driving there by car, and it takes a lot longer than flying, so it doesn't really provide a great solution to either problem."

The Teamsters had a somewhat more caustic response during a press conference this morning:

"The Prime Minister should resign. His grandiose 'Transportation Initiative' is dead on arrival and his 'International Trade Program' has one foot in the grave. We need a leader who can make things happen, not one with his head in the clouds. Its time for parliament to get off their pork barrels and change this government."

The assembled crowd cheered as the taillights of the nation's first high speed train vanished into Union Station's exit tunnel. One might wonder if they were ringing in the beginning of a new era of energy-efficient travel, or if they were bidding farewell to the pipe dreams of a government that has lost its way.
Wasted Genius
12-08-2005, 05:14
Down with me. I Have one thing to say about midway...



A Bunker underneath Midway....

-snip-

( In a few mins. i'll post an image of this repulsive beast.)

OOC: Can you make it look like Godzilla? I mean Midway is kinda near Japan and Godzilla usually came out of the ocean...

BTW. I'm surfing the net to find out how to kill a teletuby. I fear the horrible truth I might find...
Maineiacs
12-08-2005, 07:14
WG: You have been given Sakhalin, check page 1. You could always build a reeeaaalllyyyy long tunnel. Kinda like the Chunnel on steroids. :D

BY: If you want Europe, talk to Halbergardia. I'm not just giving it to you. Cripes, man! You already have Africa!

Also, I am going out of town on the 20th. I'll be gone until Sept. 4th. I've asked WG to moderate in my absence. If MHDP or Charyania haven't shown up by then, I will probably let new people in, if inactives return I may let them have somewhere like Brazil, or Mexico. (Is that what you were talking about, WG?)
Maineiacs
12-08-2005, 18:12
Do the <Bump>
Maineiacs
12-08-2005, 18:24
From MBC News-- May, 2007

MAINEIACS CITY

The race for the presidency has gotten off to an early start with one candidate declaring his intension to seek the office today. Sen. Franklin Buchanan (Reform, Potomac) made the announcement at a news conference. "This country has lost its way." he said. "we need to combat waste and ineficiency, strengthen our millitary, and keep to our own affairs." Senator Buchanan siad he favors large tax cuts, de-nationalizing all industries, increasing the millitary budget by 600%, withdrawing from the American League, and closing the borders to immigration. Senate majority leader Jackson Glenn (ND, Ohio) said this plan was "dangerous and foolish."
Beautiful Yalaluxurios
12-08-2005, 21:48
B U M P
The 501st Legion
13-08-2005, 00:08
OOC: I forgot something. I'd like to give Hungary to either Hoth or Truitt; the first of those two nations to post here will get that territory, plain and simple.
<bumpity bump bump bump>

OOC: Scratch that. I'd like to trade Hungary for Denmark, if anybody (especially Hoth) doesn't mind.
Beautiful Yalaluxurios
13-08-2005, 00:47
TRADE PROPOSALS

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To 501st Legion
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You give to Yalaluxurios:
1. Your European land

You Receive from Yalaluxurios:
1. 5 Trillion USD
2. 50,000 Gallons of Oil
3. High-Grade Armor and weapons to re-equip your entire army

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To Halberdgardia
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You give to Yalaluxurios:
1. Your European land

You Receive from Yalaluxurios
1. 5 trillion USD

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To Truitt
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You give to Yalaluxurios
1. Your European land

You recieve from Yalaluxurios:
1. 10 trillion USD

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To the Hoth system
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You give to Yalaluxurios
1. Your European land

You recieve from Yalaluxurios
1. 10 trillion USD
2. 100,000 gallons of oil

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To Teymor
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You give to Yalaluxurios
1. Your European land

You recieve from Yalaluxurios
1. 5 trillion USD
2. High-Grade Armor and Weapons to re-equip your entire army

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