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The Lightning Star

06-07-2005, 03:20

OOC: While I'm trying to have most people have correct Polish names, the places are correctly named, and certain phrases are correct, I 1. Do not speak Polish(although as a Polish-American I really should) and 2. Am working off a laptop computer. So please, cut me some slack.

Prologue

The Poles had recently become restless. Well, more restless than usual, that is. The Poles had never been very good subjects to foreign rulers, and it was amazing that the North Germanians had kept the area relatively peaceful for so long. However, the Poles had become angered by world events. Left and right, new nations were being formed, as those who were once oppressed members of malicious Empires had re-joined their kin in states of peace and prosperity. Land's where the people were free. And the Poles, one of the most freedom-loving peoples on the planet, were all but serfs to their German overlords. Sure, they had food, water, homes, electricity and jobs. But were they free? No. Their decisions were dictated by posters plastered on the walls of their greatest monuments. But no longer. The Polish people would no longer bow to the whip of power-hungry dictators and brutal enforcers.

Kraków, Poland, North Germania

It was late into the night in Kraków, and the streets were empty. Shops were closed and only night-owls and those who were forced too by jobs were up. The streets were basically empty, save for military vehicles. To the casual eye, it was just another sleepy night in Kraków. To the experienced eye, however, something seemed wrong. The ways the Poles now looked at the Germanian troops, the fact that items mysteriously were almost always "out of stock" for Germanians, the fact that productivity was down, all by themsleves seemed harmless, but if you put it together, it seemed something was afoot. Something that had not happened for centuries.

As the Military ALV rolled past Stanisław's Bakery, 4 figures in the shadowy alley besides it held their breath and tried to make themselves as small as possible. Between them they were holding a large crate, and in their pockets they each had what seemed to be rolled-up newspapers. Although they dressed like factory workers and the crate they had spefically said, Warning-Fragile Equipment Inside!, they didn't want to take ANY chances. Once Stanisław, the fragiles 70 year old man who ran the bakery, leaned out his window and said the coast was clear, the men quickly darted across the street as fast as they could. There were stories of how other runner groups had been caught, had disappeared for a couple of day, and then were found-dead. Their corpses were brutally mutilated, and even the bravest men would turn their heads at the sight of these bodies. While it was intended to make would-be smugglers re-consider their line of work, it had an opposite affect: more men(and women) would join.

One such smuggler was Adam Zawisza, the son of a merchant who had gone mysteriously missing after he had made a remark about how the Germanians had no right to be in Poland. He was a tall, lean figure, standing about 6 feet tall, with brown eyes and messy brown hair. His skin was pale from working at night so long, but so was the skin of many other Poles. At the moment he was wearing dark green overalls, a white work-shirt, a brown flatcap, and brown shoes, as did his comrades. After he and his crew had safely reached the other side of the street, they all heaved a silent sigh of relief. They quickly melded into the shadows, darting(well, as fast as they could with a heavy crate between them) through the alleyways. Thankfully, the moon was blocked out by dark clouds; a piece of luck that without which they may well have already died because of. After about an hour of going through these back alleys, they came upon an abandonded shack, hidden from the street by the lines of old-shops(some dating back hundreds of years). When they reached the hut, they looked around at every nook and cranny where something may have been watching. After making sure no one could see or hear them, and knocked on the door and said, "My, what a lovely time to go Antiquing". The door quickly and quietly opened, and they were rushed inside.

Inside, there was a friendly old woman by the name of Irena Szewińska. On the walls there was a horrid green wallpaper(but no one would tell the lovable old woman that), old pictures of her family, a bookshelf on the right wall, a bed on the left wall. A small kitchen area in the upper-left corner, a small door which led to a bathroom in the upper-right corner, and a fireplace at the back backwall. She was sitting in a rocking chair, knitting a red and white berret by the fireplace. As Adam and his crew approached her, she said, "You're late again Adam." As she got up from the chair, she made a labored face, but instead of letting the four young men help her she waved them away. "At least you brought the package," she said in a less-than-enthusiastic voice. She hobbled over to the bookshelf, and tilted a book back. When she pulled it out, she opened it and got out her glasses. She then walked up to the crate to inspect it.

"Ah... very good. Very good indeed. Sobieski will be pleased...". With that, she hobbled over to the fireplace and pressed the light switch near it 4 times in 3 seconds. After doing so, she walked walked over the bookshelf and asked the 4 men to push it. It moved surprisingly easily, and where it was there was a hole, just large enough for the crate to get in. After the crate and three men had gone in and Adam was about to enter, the old woman said, "Adam! I have a present for you." As he approached her quizically, she pulled out the berret she had been making for him. "Here you go. I just finished it as you arrived. Go on, put it on!" As he slipped the berret over his head, one of his accomplices asked him to, "Hurry the hell up and get down here!" Before he went down, he turned to the woman and said, "Thank you, Babci," kissed her on the cheek, and descended into the tunnel. The bookshelf was pulled back over the hole, the old woman pushed the light switch 4 buttons again, and began to knit something new.

North Germania

06-07-2005, 05:02

Whenever a territory was conquered by Germania, the government made sure to make the people of that territory feel equal to the Germanians as much as possible. Even if the Germanians themselves did not feel that way, they could make others think that.

But Poland seemed to be a different matter. The populace was always restless, never quite content like the Austrians or Danes or Ukrainians, or even the French... the always wanted something more, and the government always gave more, yet they craved and craved. This irritated the governor, Politischgeneral Josef Moenchs, to the point of increasing OS-Polizei numbers by 50% to keep their complaining down.

Something was amiss, in Warsaw, Krakow, Gdansk... even in the agricultural districts. It seemed like they were up to something.

München, Germany, the next day...

Politischgeneral Moenchs: The Poles are up to something. I've served in the military... in urban combat situations. I know the feeling when something huge is about to break loose.

Moenchs' assistant Günsche spoke up.

Oberst Günsche: "What so you suggest we do, Herr Politischgeneral?"

Politischgeneral Moenchs: "We've already installed security cameras in the major areas of the cities, and around banks and areas of importance. Now shops are showing up with various items 'out of stock' in Krakow when accounting tells that money has not placed enough value for those items to be 'out of stock'. That means we're losing money! These Poles are stealing!

Put cameras outside of random shops. One camera for every ten shops. Send in additional OS-Polizei to Krakow and begin searching random homes. 1.000 extra OS-Polizei.

We'll stop these rebellious Poles no matter what it takes."

Oberst Günsche: "Jawohl."

The Lightning Star

06-07-2005, 09:13

Stanisław's Bakery, Kraków, Poland, North Germania, the next morning

Stanisław was in the kitchen when he heard the Germanian soldiers shout, "OPEN UP!" and smash down the door. Shit, they're here. He calmly walked over to the oven, put in a circular object, grabbed his newspaper, and walked out to meet the soldiers. "Hello, good sirs. May I interest you in fine baked goods?" For a second the soldiers seemed confused. Weren't these guys supposed to be rebelling? After a split second they regained their composture and said, "We are here on offical government orders. We are to search your home."

"Certainly, certainly," said the old man. The Feldwebel called for his men to come in and help search for anything that might lead to where the troublemakers were hiding. One of the men in the bathroom came upon an odd looking object. Just as he was about to inform the Feldwebel, there was a loud -cling- from the oven, Stanisław said, "Oooh, my dish is done!", and the entire bakery exploded into flames, frying Stanisław, the Germanian Soldiers, and whatever that odd-looking object was.

OOC: I'll put what happened the night before later. Now, I must sleeeeeep...

RomeW

07-07-2005, 05:07

The Lightning Star

07-07-2005, 19:16

TAG

Now I'm beginning to fear those Polish bakers...

OOC: :D

Zeeeland

11-07-2005, 05:46

lol.

this is good... (poor ole poland eh? didnt really have a proper sovereign country from the middle eighteenth century to lech wasala (errr correct me if im wrong) in 1989.)

North Germania

14-07-2005, 10:28

Nürnberg, Germany...

The report of the bombing of the OS-Polizei had reached news channels on every TV in Germanian Europe, and probably thousands of TVs in Layarteb, Hawdawg, Soviet Bloc, and Cotland especially -- being Germania's closest allies, culturally. The Reichskanzler officially condemned the attack as a 'fluke terrorist attack by unhappy Belarussian immigrants in Poland', but his unofficial stance was much more drastic.

He was most displeased with Josef Moenchs apparent lack of ability to control these unruly brigants in Poland, and the situation was rapidly getting out of hand. But what to do? A full-scale rebellion had not been launched, and it was difficult to tell which Poles were simply acting out against their superior rulers, and who had accepted their better living conditions.

In any case, Moenchs had been removed from power, described by Kahn as "an incompetant buffoon who never should have had the privilege of serving in the Reichsheer". Several hours later, Josef Moenchs was executed by the OS-Polizei in his luxurious Nürnberg home.

As a replacement, Reichskanzler Kahn has ordered that OS-Reichsgeneral Heydrich Kübler replace him as Governor of Germany, Austria, the newly-acquired territory of the Czech Republic, and Poland.

Kübler, ominously referred to as the "The Reich's Executioner" and notorious for his ability to quell disputes not through political or diplomatic sway, but military and psychological intimidation, had taken a firm grasp on the situation. An excerpt from his inaugurational speech as Governor follows, and was released to all National Leaders:

Kübler appeared in front of a stadium bearing the cross of Germania, and he wore the black trenchcoat of the OS. On top of his head was an officer's cap, and underneath it could be seen light blond hair. His face was long and thin, and the bones protruded. His icy blue eyes gave him both an Angelic and heartless, murderous appearance, which in combination gave him a look that could put shivers down any man's spine. When he spoke, he dictated his words with black-gloved-hands, and dead, angry eyes.

[Translated from German]

"...the incident which took place at Stanisław's Bakery which claimed the lives of six OS-Polizei Officers, fifteen Polish citizens, and four Polish workers, as well as injuring over thirty more Polish citizens, is not an isolated event, as Moenchs believed. This is an act of rebellion -- a spark which will ignite a flame if we do not act accordingly.

I have ordered that the city of Krakow be placed under immediate martial law, as dictated by the OS. The explosive device used is still under investigation, but we believe that it is not an I.E.D... the weapon in context was believed to be military-grade. It is impossible for these people to have acquired military explosives from Germanian military facilities.

We are currently investigating foreign sources..."

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Krakow, Poland...

The OS-Polizei had done its homework and tracked down two men linked to Stanisław's Bakery, who were not regular customers, nor employees, nor did they deliver goods to the store.

They were currently being 'interrogated' by the OS, and needless to say, the OS-Polizei numbers in Poland, especially Krakow, had gone through the roof. Polish citizens in Germany were beginning to be looked at with suspicion, though no violent incidents had been reported.

In Krakow, to show his displeasure at the killing of Germanian soldiers and innocent Poles, the Reichsgeneral ordered the hanging of the immediate family members of the owner of Stanisław's Bakery. Their bodies were now dangling by lightpoles in the street, outside of the store...

Cotland

14-07-2005, 13:02

ICS Ragnarok, currently berthed in Layarteb City

The Emperor, currently on a state visit to Layarteb, got the news of the incidents in Poland through his national security advisors who were aboard the ICS Ragnarok, the flagship of the Cottish Navy. Needless to say, he was worried about the potential loss of stability in Europe. He needed to show that Cotland was worried, but he didn't want to commit troops. At least not just yet. Better to let the Germanians handle it. He nodded, having found a good sollution and looked at the main advisor.

"Raise our alert on the embassies and consulates in Germania to blue, and the consulates in Poland to yellow."

The advisor nodded, and picked up a phone to relay the orders. The alert levels would go from green, which was the normal alert, to blue, which was elevated alert, and past orange to yellow, which was the second highest alert and included arming the soldiers posted at the embassy and orders to shoot if threathened and preparing to destroy classified information and equipment. They would keep away from going to alertlevel red, which was the highest alert level and usually reserved for war and such.

Imperial Cottish Consulate, Krakow, Poland

In Krakow, the increase in alert was recieved after seven minutes, and the ten soldiers stationed in the consulate immediately armed themselves with their M8 LARs / M24 sniper rifles and M45A1 sidearms, as well as kevlar helmets and battlevests. The consulate staff started gathering classified information and equipment and prepared to destroy it. Two members of the staff were intelligence officers, and they too armed themselves with M45A1 sidearms and Remington shotguns, ready to shoot any intruding Pole. The soldiers now manned the gates and rooftop, and were ready to engage any foreigner with hostile intents. Cottish citizens also flocked to the consulate and airports, hoping for help in getting home to Cotland. The consulate was on alertlevel yellow.

The Lightning Star

15-07-2005, 06:22

OOC: Wonderful responses ^^. Unfortunatly, I can't respond till the morrow.

The Lightning Star

17-07-2005, 04:54

OOC: I apologize for the names and stuff before-hand. I have a head-splitting headache but I must write this response.

IC:The Wolnica, Kazimierz District, Karkow, Poland

A angry mob had just formed in the streets. Thousands of Poles, furious at the fact that Poles were being hanged because some deranged family member had blown himself up when the Germanian soldiers were there, were on the brink of excalating to a full-fledged revolt. Many of the crowd members were moderates, but such brutality against their people had driven them over the edge. After about 5 minutes, a group of armed Poles stepped out. Their leader, a man named Sobieski, stood on a podium in front of the Town Hall.

"My fellow Poles, the Germanian occupier has slaughtered our people! They have hanged innocents, children have been found brutally murdered on the streets by Germanian hands, the elderly have appeared dead floating in the river! It is time that we took our fate back from the hands of these foreignors!" While he continued on, members of his group began to pass out weapons to the crowd. Most of the weapons were old-rifles, but some were military grade weapons(many of them surpluss AK-Z's left over from the recent Carthaginian Civil War. These guns had flooded the market, seeing how over 300 million were produced).

"It is time for us, the Cossaks of Krakow, to free our Polish brethren! No longer will we be the mindless serfs of the Germanians, from hence-forth, we shall be fre--". A loud shot rang out at Sobieski fell to the floor, his brains blowed out. Seconds later, tanks crashed through century-old buildings and helicopters flew over head. Troops stormed the square.

There was no warning.

The Germanians oppened fire on the crowd, and many were dead in seconds. Those who survived fled into the buildings, where they managed to get off a few shots before the structure came crumbling down on top of them. The CoK members managed to fire off an RPG at one of the helicopters, downing it, but otherwise it was a complete massacre of the rebels. As Adam Zawisza(OOC: The dude from earlier) descended into the tunnels with some of the few survivors, he remembered the conversation he had with Sobieski before the mob.

Flashback!
"I do not expect to come out of this alive, Adam," he started calmly. His sunglasses hid any emotion that was in his eyes. "This will be the spark the Polish people need. They will not stand for the destruction of part of their grandest city. While many a Pole shall die today, we shall get our revenge." He then turned towards Adam and smiled. "I want you to lead the Cossaks, Adam. Remember this: no attacks on civilians, only against the Germanians. If some German civilians must die for a greater good, do it, but only when there is no choice. However, never let any Polish civilians get harmed. This is a resistance, not a slaughtering of Polish people by Polish hands. Resist to the end, Adam, or this shall all be in vain."
End Flashback!

As he and his men descended into the tunnels to flee, he had but one thought on his mind.

We shall get our revenge and freedom, Sobieski. For the Polish people, and for you.

The Lightning Star

17-07-2005, 04:58

OOC: Sorry for posting what your soldiers would have done, NG. That just seemed like what you would do. Massacre, almost no survivors, kick em while they're down, etc.

North Germania

18-07-2005, 08:18

OOC: No problem, TLS. Just one thing: we don't use helicopters.

IC:

Kübler's men had apparently received his message quite clearly. Stanislaw's Bakery had been the spring board for a much larger scenario than a single terrorist attack: an entire Polish revolt.

The state of increased security had restricted free speech even further after the bombing, so the anti-government speech in The Wolnica, which normally would've been handled by firing tear gas into the crowd, arresting the demonstrators, and executing the leaders, had turned into a slaughter that would haunt the Polish psyche for a very long time, if not forever.

It was unclear whether or not OS-Reichsgeneral Kübler had directly ordered that attack, or if it had been a lower-ranking officer. In any case, diplomacy was out of the question now. The bodies of those present during the massacre had been searched and identified, and soon their family members had been located and arrested.

Still, it was obvious that things would not stop here.

The Wolnica, Kazimierz District, Karkow, Poland...

Five OS-Polizei Soldiers wearing gas masks walked past the now shattered podium laying on the ground. Smoke and dust filled the air, and bricks, burn marks, rifle shells, and blood were strewn across the ground. The normally busy city section had become eerily quiet, save for the sounds of the Germanian soldiers. The Wolnica had been closed off for quite some time, and would remain so until it was repaired.

The black-uniformed soldiers stopped at the body of the man who had been speaking.

[Translated from German]

OS-Hauptsturmführer Heinrich: "Search the body."

Doing as they were told, the four OS-Schützes soon found a wallet, and a standard issue Germanian Worker's Card. The man's full name was Piotr Nikolai Sobieski.

Apart from the Worker's Card, they found a pistol, a telephone number on a piece of paper with a foreign country code on it not belonging to Germania, and a pamphlet in Polish which read at the top 'Cossaks of Krakow'.

OS-Schütze Dietrich: "Herr Hauptsturmführer..."

The pamphlet was handed to Heinrich who, after looking it over, replied.

OS-Hauptsturmführer Heinrich: "We've got a bit of a problem. Search the building there."

"Jawohl."

G-4 Assault Rifles in hand, the four OS Soldiers walked into the entrance of a smoking brick building, the lower body of a dead Pole visible on the outside.

The Hauptsturmführer walked back to the commanding officer, who was far enough away from the dust and fire not to be wearing a gas mask. Instead, he was smoking a cigarette and wearing the black cap that all officers of the OS wore. He was an older man, in his late '50s, clean cut, and one of the most feared men in Germania for his wide-sweeping powers.

Before reaching this man, OS-Hauptsturmführer Heinrich removed his gas mask, gave it to a Schütze who was standing guard, and replaced it with his officer's cap. When he arrived, he sharply saluted.

[Translated from German]

OS-Oberstgruppenführer Braunschweig: "Yes?"

OS-Hauptsturmführer Heinrich: "Herr Oberstgruppenführer, I think you should see this."

Heinrich gave him the CoK pamphlet found on Sobieski's body, as well as the phone number with a Carthaginian calling code. After a few minutes of looking it over, Braunschweig replied.

"I must report this to the OS-Reichsgeneral. Excuse me."

Little to both of their knowledge, the Cossaks of Krakow was gaining in strength, rapidly. But Kübler had taken some preemptive actions. The city of Krakow was now closed off. No one could leave, but more importantly, no one could enter.

Poland as a whole was still open, but security had squeezed around the country's throat...

The Lightning Star

18-07-2005, 21:07

OOC: No helicopters? Weirdo :p

IC:

Unknown Location, somewhere underneath Krakow

The room was small, dank, and dimly lit, but there was enormous energy inside. The people inside, many of them writing messages, surveying a map of the city, giving packages to people going to and from the building, were more excited than ever before. The revolt had begun, and now the average Pole had a reason to rebel. Even the Jews had a right to be angry, after all, Kazimirez was, for a time, the largest Jewish enclave in Europe(as was Poland as a whole). The only ones who wouldn't rebel would be the Germanian puppets, but no one cared for them. A man in a black robe walked into the room and walked up to the leader of the operation, a man who was only known as Dabrowski(OOC: This is Adam, but the leaders of the CoK would give themselves code-names of famous Polish leaders). The man whispered into Dabrowski's ear, and Dabrowski ordered that the place be emptied, A.S.A.P.

In less than 5 minutes, everything of importance had been picked up and the men inside had fled. A group of 16 Germanian soldiers soon entered the room, and all they saw was a man in a black cloak. The man then turned around, with an AK-Z in each hand, and began to fire at the Germanians. He killed 7 soldiers before he was taken down. When the Germanians took the hood he had over his head off, they saw an Arab man. In his late twenties, he had brown eyes, brown hair, and was clean shaven. After looking at him for a few seconds, one of the soldiers noticed his hand was moving. Making a laboured grin, the man pushed a button, and the entire room was incinerated.

And hour and 45 minutes later, in a small house 5 miles outside of Krakow

Dabrowski wiped his brow as he surveyed the men around him. They would only be in this house for an hour as transportation came to pick them up. This was the riskiest thing he had ever done in his life, and if there was one screw-up it would all be over. As he and his ben anxiously waited for the transport to arrive, he went over the progression of the rebellion with his second in command.

It seemed that every Polish city had rebelled, with the exception of heavily German cities, including cities in Prussia and Danzig(OOC: which are in Poland). Of course, fighting broke out even there, but not as much as in other cities. The Germanians seemed to have been ready for the rebellions in larger cities, such as Warsaw and Krakow, but were taken off-guard by rebellions in the countryside and in smaller cities. The most successful revolt had been in Lublin, where the small amount of Germanian soldiers had quickly been ousted(Although everyone knew that the Germanians would be back with tanks). Although things were looking up for the moment, everyone knew that this would would be a hard, up-hill battle. But there were tens of millions of Poles willing to die for the fatherland, and it would take nothing short of Genocide to end this revolt.

An hour later, the transport arrived as expected, and took them to a secure location. This would be where they would plot the revolt's next stage.

RomeW

20-07-2005, 05:20

OOC: I know that Ravenna actually has almost no Poles, but I figure for the sake of the RP I can have a Polish-Roman community there.

IC: The news of the Polish revolt shook Ravenna. The city, home to thousands of Poles descended from the Poles who fled the Germanians, felt for their northern brethren, and started a rally of their own in the northern Roman city.

The ralliers called for the end of "the Germanian occupation of Poland" and called for the creation of a new state at Ravenna, an idea that had been proposed several times over the past few decades.

"For far too long the Poles have lived under the oppressive boot of the Germanians," said Carol Dumbrosius, who led the rally. "We cannot allow this to happen for any longer. Poland must be free!" As he finished he was met with thunderous applause.

Meanwhile, in Rome, Rodin Hartian got wind of the Ravennans' rally, but not until the night. At first he didn't know what to think. Yet another independence movement. Yay. Then, the thought hit him- having a "buffer" democracy in the north may provide Rome itself some protection, and, hey, he was a friend of the Poles, so this may just be crazy enough to work. "Tommorow, the Poles just may get their wish," he said to himself, grinning.

The Lightning Star

20-07-2005, 05:30

RomeW

20-07-2005, 05:52

OOC: No problem!

Oh, and just for the record, here is the extent of Carthaginian involvement:

The Freedom-loving technocrats are using Poland as a staging ground for the beginning of Democracy in Europe. They have sent around 700 operatives, as well as funky high-tech equipment, to help, but this is not an offical operation. Just a few rogue elements.

OOC: Cool. I may consider a few things myself, now that I think of it. I have to go to bed soon so that will come tommorow.

The Lightning Star

26-07-2005, 06:44

Lublin, Capital of the Free Polish Republic
The war with Yelm could not have come at a better time. The Allied Forces had diverted their attention towards the Yelmish superpower, and the Germanian hold on Poland had weakened. Not by alot, mind you, but so far no major operation had been taken against the city of Lublin and it's surrounding areas. Reports of how the war was going were flooding into the new "capital". It seemed that the only provinces that had been quelled were the Pomeranian and Warmian-Masurian vovoidships, both of which had large German/Prussian populations. The rebellions in the Western Pomeranian, Greater Poland, and Lubusz vovoidships were dying down, due to the fact that these provinces were close to the Germanian border, and many Germanians had migrated there. However, in the rest of the vovoidships the rebellion still raged.

(A map of the situation in Poland. Yellow means rebellion still raging, blue means rebellion dying down, dark green means thoroughly under Germanian control, and Red means under Lublinian control. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v626/Thelightningstar/Polska.png))

The leaders of Lublin, dubbed the Lublin Sejm, consisted of the elected mayors of every town with a population over 10,000 in the Lublin Vovoidship. It also had observers from the capitals of all other Vovoidships. At the head of this Sejm was the Mayor of Lublin, Stanisław Głębocki. They were currently debating how to continue their fight. They knew that they were doomed if they did no recieve outside help, and seeing how there were plenty of nearby nations that would like to see some more democracy in mostly totalarian Europe, they decided that they would send a plea for help in the outside world. The Technocrats in Carthage had already pledged their support, although that was secret and it only went as far as giving the rebels weapons, training, and a safe place for them to stay if the rebellion turned sour. The man known as "Dabrowski", leader of the Cossaks of Krakow, had traveled through his underground networks to Lublin, were he had taken command of the "army" of the republic. Over 40,000 people had joined up, with a core group of 2,000 men trained by the Technocrats. They were armed with AK-Z's and RPG-9's, as well as around 100 technicals and some stinger missiles. If the "republic" was invaded, the Germanian army would be slowed down by militias, etc in the countryside for about a day, but once they reached Lublin the city would probably fall within 3. The Sejm decided to release it's plea.

Offical Message by the Sejm of the Free Polish Republic
Peoples of the world,
We, the people of Lublin and all of Poland, have thrown off the shackles of totalarian dictatorship to live a free life. While the area around Lublin has been freed from the Germanian yoke, our brothers in other vovoidships are still fighting dearly for their nation. If we do not recieve help for our cause, the last hope for democracy in Central Europe, and almost the entire part of mainland europe, shall be crushed. If you do not come to our aid, the Germanians shall massacre our people, and our human rights(which we never had in the first place) shall be taken away from us once more after this brief time. It is time that the International Community shows it's true colors. Will you turn away from our aid and let democracy and freedom perish? Or shall you join us in our struggle for a free Polish state, where we can live life as we wish? The choice is yours, world leaders, and make the wrong one, and you shall be tortured by it for centuries to come.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f8/Herb_Polski.png
Jeszcze Polska nie zginęła!

The Lightning Star

26-07-2005, 22:34

El Bumpo!

Layarteb

27-07-2005, 05:48

Secret IC to NG

The Empire of Layarteb has recieved the plea for help by Polish rebels. In light of this situation, we would like to offer our assistance with a small force of men.

The Lightning Star

27-07-2005, 05:49

In the Suffete, New Delhi
The Suffete was full of energy that had not been seen for many years. A battle was being raged between the non-interventionalists and the pro-democracy camps. The Pro-democracy camp(which consisted of member of both the left and right) had always been uneasy with North Germania, and now was a chance to further the cause of democracy AND weaken their hold of Europe. It wouldn't hurt that they would be freeing a people. The non-interventionalist camp(which consisted of the left und right as well) said that #1 North Germania had never done anything to harm Carthage, #2 had helped them during the recent war, #3 they were already too weak from said war to do anything, and #4 it would make Carthage ALOT of enemies VERY quickly(seeing how the Totalarians had built up an alliance of super-powers). The only thing the Suffete managed to agree on was that they would watch what was going on, and would decide a course of action soon.

OOC: Sorry for sucky post, I'm using my laptop which has power issues(not as bad as before, but bad).

[NS]Kreynoria

27-07-2005, 14:37

The message has been received by Patriarch of Kreynoriapolis Romanus Michelosis, who is acting emperor after the Emperor's departure to Fleet Week and the Supreme Chancellor's leave to attend the International AIDS Conference. The Patriarch has decided to covertly aid the Poles in their valiant bid for freedom, and to bring the matter before the League of Nations for resolution. All Poles wishing to flee Germanian tyranny may be given sanctuary in Djibouti, where they shall receive training, weapons, money, and explosives.

The Lightning Star

29-07-2005, 03:16

La bamba, I mean El Bumpo!

North Germania

01-08-2005, 12:25

OOC: Ohhh, you sneaksy bastards! Nice map of Poland, by the way.

WARNING! Violent post! I hope this doesn't offend anyone. Just trying to play-out what this branch of my military would do, given the situation.

IC:

If the Heer itself had been weakened by the war with Yelm, it was only because the best Armies had been deployed South of Poland, far out of reach of the rebellion. However, there were other divisions, and other armies, and where the army lacked in numbers, the OS made up for.

The black-uniformed, robotic soldiers of the OS were watching every man, woman, and child inside of Germania, and some outside. Within the borders of Germania, though, they held the lives of everyone in their hands, and they watched those lives with an un-blinking eye constantly.

Where ever the rebels went, the OS followed. And now, there were spies inside Poland. Reports of a growing force of rebels in small town of Kolno, 150km Northeast of Warsaw, had mobilized a force of some 250 OS-Polizei soldiers, sent from the city of Danzig, via railroad. As the 10-car train, disguised as a cattle train, ground to a stop in the sleepy town of roughly 700 Poles (OOC: Population is actually around 11,000 in real-life) at 2:34 AM, the conductor of the train, a Polish-speaking Germanian who had been spying for the OS in Kolno spoke with the Reichsbahn controller in the stop.

[Translated from Polish]

OS-Sturmmann Fegelein: "We have some 'cattle' to unload, Henrik."

Henrik: "Ahhh, cattle. Right. I'll get some men to help unload them."

OS-Sturmmann Fegelein: "Of course."

Henrik winked at the man, and walked off. Several Polish workers, turned rebels, opened the cars of the train and were met with immediate gunfire from the OS-Polizei soldiers inside. The rebel Pole, Henrik, ran to the conductor's car to warn the man he believed was loyal to the rebellion and his friend, named "Dorek" to him.

[Translated from Polish]

Henrik: "Dorek, what are you doing!? Get out now! There are OS soldiers in the cars!"

OS-Sturmmann Fegelein: "Henrik, you really believed my name was 'Dorek'? You are part of the rebellion. I am part of the OS. Sorry, we are not friends, Pole."

The OS man smiled and removed a black pistol from inside his jacket. He aimed it at Henrik's face and fired three rounds. Quickly, the OS-Polizei soldiers had mobilized into the town. Some resistance members had been notified of the OS's arrival, had gotten out of bed, ready for the inevitable.

As the wave of OS soldiers stormed the town, they kicked in doors and began dragging people out of their houses. Resistance members fired back, mainly with hunting rifles, outdated military rifles, pistols, or shotguns, but their stand against the well-armed, well-trained, and fearless OS was short-lived.

Within a matter of three hours, all the town's people were rounded up into the Town Center. The women and children were separated from all men above age 17. Then the shooting began, all at once. The terrible sounds of execution squads tore through the quiet night air. And within an hour over 4,000 men lay dead in the center of Kolno. All women above age 17 were rounded up and locked into barns. The barns were set ablaze, and any who escaped the fire were gunned down by the OS-Polizei.

Then, only the children remained. The OS then set about to the drawn-out task of turning them into walking propaganda for Germania.

"Nacht der OS!", "Night of the OS!", was painted in red on the clothing of the children, who were shoved into train cars, destined for Lublin. The train set off, and would arrive at the heart of the Polish rebellion within roughly 10 hours. The Polish rebels would find the children, all boys over the age of 14 beaten, and the rest painted with the OS's message of terror. The children would tell the tale of what had happened, but this story would not make it to the news. Foreign nations would only know of this if the rebels told them. But who would believe such a fantastic story? At least, that was the decision of the upper eschelon of OS command.

As for the town itself, all buildings were burnt to the ground by OS soldiers carrying flamethrowers, and the rubble was covered with soil. A single sign was placed by the soldiers, which read: "Nacht der OS!"

The Poles had rebelled, but they had pushed too far. They had attacked the OS, and the OS wanted revenge for the deaths of their comrades. Their bloodlust had been quenched...

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Nürnberg, Germany...

Reichskanzler Heydrich Kübler had received the telegram from the Emperor of Layarteb, and had sent a response:

Encryption: Max

Message to: Emperor of Layarteb
Message from: Reichskanzler Kübler
Subject: Polish Rebellion

"Your offer to send in soldiers to Germania is accepted with warm welcome. I thank my good friend in Layarteb for his endless support. Please send any and all men to Danzig, Poland. It is a safe-area, and the airport there is heavily-guarded by the OS-Polizei and Reichsheer.

I hope to see your men in action soon.

-- Reichskanzler Heydrich Kübler"

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Now the Poles would truly see the wrath of a people pushed too far...

Cotland

02-08-2005, 21:57

Fort Mardi, outside Moscow
The morning was calm and cool, just as the normal october mornings usually are in the western parts of Cotland. The mist was hanging low, just like normal. The only thing out of the ordinary at Fort Mardi was the fact that there were a lot of soldiers and equipment outside. You might think that this is a contradiction in term, that soldiers weren't supposed to be outside in the military base, but when you take into consideration that it wasn't even 6 AM, you've got the explanation. The entirety of the 69th Infantry Division (Mechanized) were preparing to be relocated to Danzig in Prussia. That was in Poland, and the division was going to go there after a direct request from the Germanian leadership. It had to do something with the rebellion in Poland, but the soldiers had strickt orders not to interfér with the local politics.

As the last of the M2A4 Bradley IFVs and Challenger 2E tanks were loaded onto the semi-trailers that was going to drive them to a train station outside Moscow to get loaded onto the large cargo train that were going to transport the Division to Danzig. Another train was going to transport the 25th LAV Engineering Brigade, the 725th AAA Group and the 1018th Medium- / Low-level SAM Group to Danzig. A detachment of helicopters would also be a part of the task force to Danzig, but they would arrive later. All in all, more than 27 000 servicemen were going to establish the Cottish military camp in Danzig.

The loading of the troops and equipment took the better part of five hours, but finally, at 11 AM, the trains were ready to depart. The travel to the border checkpoint at Born, which had been established by the Hogswetians when they occupied the western part of the Empire and since upgraded to current Cottish standards, took four hours, and the trains were checked and sent on within ten minutes. After another three hours, they had passed Minsk and now headed soutwards to Warsaw before the trains headed northwards. They were clearly marked as belonging to the Cottish Armed Forces, but just in case the soldiers were on the alert and several heavy machine guns had been mounted on the train. Those MGs, of the type M240G (7.62 x 51 mm) and M312C (12.7 x 99 mm) would later be used in defensive positions in the new base that the engineers would make.

After 27 hours, the trains finally stopped at the train station in Danzig. The soldiers were finally allowed out of the carrages, and all of them streched and flexed their sore muscles. Still, the journey wasn't over yet. They had to unload the tanks, IFVs and other vehicles, drive them through the city, something they had help from the local Germanian army and police to do, and to get to the large field sixteen kilometers, or ten miles, from the local airport. It was four kilometers by seven kilometers, large enough to establish a large enough base for all the Cottish soldiers, and it was placed on a hill. First into the fray were the 25th LAV Engineer Brigade, who started to place stakes to put the barbed wire on. Meanwhile the soldiers parked their vehicles and started to set up the tents. In a week, the engineers would have finished building the barracks and perimeter defenses. In two, they would have finished digging out the ammo and command bunkers, helipads, hangars and motor pools, and in four all the rest would be done. The name of the camp would be Camp Danzig.

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69th Infantry Division (Mechanized)

The Infantry Division (Mechanized) consists of

1 Tank Brigade

3 Infantry Brigades (Mechanized)

1 Artillery Brigade (Self-Propelled)

1 Air Defense Battalion

1 Signal Battalion

5 Support Battalions

Men
20 778 Combat, 4 080 Support

Equipment used

Tanks/IFVs
M2026A1 Imperator MBT: 216
M2A5 Bradley IFV: 2 880

Artillery
M2001 Crusader: 162
M2002 RSV: 162
M270A2 MLRS: 54

Air Defense
Starstreak SP HVM: 54
MIM-120 SLAMRAAM: 162
M2025 Devestator: 18
M2019A2 Layarteb 88: 18

Support vehicles
M2008A1 Dingo: 1083
M2010A1 Bushmaster: 6
M939A2 Truck: 174
M977 HEMTT: 200
M978 HEMTT: 150
M1070 HETS: 200

Weapons
M8A1 LAR: 11 000
M8A2 PDW: 10 000
M8A4 LSAW: 4 000
M35 LMG: 3 000
M24 Sniper: 1 500
M45A1 Pistol: 25 530
M72A5 LAW: 23 000
M141 SMAW: 5 000
Javelin AT system: 1 200
Starstreak MANPAD: 4 000

25th LAV Engineer Brigade

The LAV Engineer Brigade consists of

1 Brigade HHC

3 LAV Engineer Battalion

Men
1373 Combat, 200 Support

Equipment used
Engineering vehicles
M9 ACE: 72
Mine Clearing Launcher: 36
M548: 18
LAV-E: 44
LAV-CC: 15
LAV-L: 94
LAV-105: 36

Support vehicles
M2008A1 Dingo: 126
Various Trucks: 156

Weapons
M8A1 LAR: 400
M8A2 PDW: 900
M35 LMG: 190
M45A1 Pistol: 1573
M72A5 LAW: 216
Starstreak MANPAD: 60

725th AAA Group

Airmen: 90
M2025 Devestator: 16
M2008A1 Dingo: 5
M2010A1 Bushmaster: 3
M939A2 Truck: 4

1018th Medium- / Low-Level SAM Group

Airmen: 30
MIM-120 SLAMRAAM: 16
M2008A1 Dingo: 11
M939A2 Truck: 7

The Lightning Star

02-08-2005, 23:33

OOC: No problem at all, NG! I expected nothing less from the most brutal dictatorship in the world ;). And thanks on the map.

IC:

Outside of Kolno

Agent "Red X", a technocrat agent, had been in command of creating the Polish rebels in the town. Although the Poles were ripe to rebel, they had lost almost all of their leadership ability during their hundreds of years as Germanians slaves. The only good leaders had gone to Lublin, where his fellow agents were arming and training the rebellion. He observed the horrific scene before him, which harkened back to his own countries Civil War. He pulled out his camera and put a direct link to the Suffete. He captured video the women being put into barns, which were then set on fire. He captured the scenes of 4,000 men being brutally murdered in the street. The Germanians did not know the meaning of the word honor. They were nothing but barbarians, whose national sport was to enslave the world and to massacre all who opposed them. He saw the boys laden onto the trains.

After the train took off, he realised a squad of Germanian soldiers whispering in German pointing at him. They think they can sneak up on me? he thought to himself. He smiled, turned around, and blew their brains out with well placed pistol shots. His victory was short-lived, however, as a sniper soon blew his own brains out. As he fell to the ground, however, his body exploded, and all trace of him had disappeared.

Lublin
As the train pulled in from Kolno, the train inspecter thought he could hear weeping from inside. He looked in the front to see the crew. Instead, he found three corpses. Aghast, he called for soldiers to grab their weapons and come and inspect the train. 60 soldiers rushed into the train station, and the opened the boxcars one by one. Each one was full of dead and beaten boys , all of them around the age of 14, wearing shirts with the demonic language of the Germanians on it. Of course, seeing how they had been under the Germanian yoke for so long, they saw the words and understood at once. The inspecter screamed in anger as he listened to the boys story, and the journalists nearby wrote down quickly what they said. Cameramen were sure to get all the grisly pictures, lest they be accused of faking the story(if the dead were not shown, then they would probably be considered lying). This news was beamed all around the world, on many international channels. This was intented to make the Poles fearful, but the Germanians had not learned a thing. The Poles could not be cowed into submission. Nothing less of total annihilation would stop them now.

The Suffete, New Delhi
The members of the Suffete watched the two giant T.V. screens in the room in deathly silence. On one, the pictures of the massacre were being played over and over. In the other, the pictures of the train from Kolno were all over the news. When they were turned off, yells of outrage came from most of the members of the Suffete(even many members of the non-interventionalist camp). They would have sat out if North Germania had fought the rebellion in a suitable manner, but these scenes of genocide triggered something in the senators. They had all witnessed first-hand the affects of a genocide during their civil war, and they were not about to let it happen to another people. As they drew up plans for war, the non-interventionalists, trying to avert total war, quickly came up with a plan. The Techno-Caliphate was one of the richest nations in the world, and they realised that they could solve their problem the old fashioned way:buy a way out of it.

To: The Germanian Authorities
From: The Suffete
Although we are appaled at the acts of genocide in your country, we desperatly want to avoid a major conflict. Therefore, we are willing to buy all of the vovoidships with a Polish Majority(ooc: which is all the vovoidships in yellow and red on the map) for a total sum of $10 trillion, as well as a non-agression pact and free trade agreements between our nations. We would be willing to change aspects of this treaty if you wish, but we will not negotiate on the land we want.

However, do not rush into not accepting this treaty. We all know that if this conflict escalates, the Poles will never work for you again, Poland will become a barren wasteland, you will make more bad publicisity than one could ever imagine, you will loose many thousands of soldiers, and loose many billions, if not trillions, of dollars. If you accept this agreement, the stability of the Roman Confederacy shall be assured, you will be renowned for your greatness, you shall be remembered in history as a forward-thinking nation instead of a brutal dictatorship, and you will have tens of millions of angry Poles off of your back.

RomeW

03-08-2005, 03:12

The Lightning Star

03-08-2005, 15:52

Rodin Hartian was at home watching the evening news when he caught images of what was happening in Poland. The Ravennans were, as expected, up in arms over the ordeal and several pro-Polish protests had already been held at the city. He also got wind of the Carthaginian offer to acquire Poland from the Germanians, and took interest.

He then picked up his phone and called the Roman Ambassador at Carthage.
"Hello? This is the Emperor. Tell the Suffette that the Romans are prepared to add to that offer as much as the Carthaginians are willing to pay. We want this situation to be over as much as they do."

He then rifled an ecoded telegram from his computer to the Carthaginian authorities:

Secret IC:

Whatever you do, you will have Roman support.

Secret Response:
We thank our Roman allies. Seeing how we are the only democratic nations with any real power, it is important that you stand together against the forces of tyranny and genocidal maniacs. Both of our nations know what it is like to be ruled by them(OOC: Nero, anyone? :D), and we must fight against them.

OOC: Weee!

Cotland

05-08-2005, 23:36

Major General Blaheim were the commanding officer of both the 69th Infantry Division (Mechanized) and Camp Danzig, and now he recieved word from Cotlandstad that his Challenger 2E tanks and M2A4 Bradleys were to be replaced by new units, more specifically the M2026A1 Imperator Main Battle Tank and the M2A5 Bradley Infantry Fighting Vehicles.

The M2026 were a brand new design, Cottish through to its motephorical bones, with the exception of one thing. The armor it used. The armor weren't the normal Chobham armor, but a Germanian mix called R-16. The R-16 were extremely powerful, and had proven itself to be seven times as strong as steel! And the M2026 had a frontal armor consisting of 38 centimeters thick R-16, something that was equal to 266 centimeters of steel!

The M2A5 were basically the standard Bradley, only that it had been fitted with more up-to-date weaponry and R-16 armor. The weight were at a modest 22,7 metric tonnes, almost the same as the A4 version had been. The IFV also had a slightly faster top speed and range. Other than that, it was the same old Bradley.

Anyway, the new units were already on their way. 216 M2026A1 Imperators and 2 880 M2A5 Bradleys right out from the factories in Cotland. They would be there by the end of the day, and then the Major General would be in posession of the best fighting vehicles on Earth (2)! His tactical value would be greatly increased, and no enemy would be able to survive the onslaught of his 216 M2026A1 Imperators 120 mm ETC cannons! If anyone tried something, they would have to face the tanks and IFVs of the 69th Mechanized!

Pyschotika

05-08-2005, 23:52

SIC:

Introduction

The Japanese were quite bussy lately. They were in the middle of a war with the Yelmish people, and were taking care of terror at home. Not to mention the 1.7 thousand Nerotikan refugees that needed to be sheltered. Now, there help was needed once more. In the not so distant past, they recieved a telegram from there ally nation North Germania. Japan was to go play there part in another conflict once more.

Preperations

The call was made, and plans decided on. The Emperor would need a majority of his vast army to quell the possible rebellion being made out of the most recent terrorism in Japan, and would need to choose wisely on who and what to send to aid North Germania. The Emperor had decided on sending the notorious 27th Infantry Regiment, known for there Kamikaze type strategys. What also made this Regiment more unique was the fact all officers were trained in the way of the Samurai, all sorts of fighting styles from around Asia and the world, and were all not only armed with the Japanese standard officer equipment, but they were also armed with Katanas each and every officer had to make for them selfs. The 27th was fearless, brave, and would lose there life for any order given to them. A number of around 20,000 ( 20.000 ) would be sent into North Germania and to wherever they needed to go to. The request only asked for ground troops, but Japan would send armored support for the regiment. The 3rd Armor Brigade would be sent in to support the 27th, with the 3rd consisting of 1,500 tanks.

The equipment of the 27th

The equipment going from Enlistees - NCOs - Officers:

Enlistee Equipment ( Per Soldier )
(1) Type 89 Assault Rifle
(1) SIG-Sauer P250 DCc Compact Semi-Auto Handgun
(1) Combatant's Knife
(1) Japanese Military Fatigues
(1) Basic Japanese Equipment ( IE Cantines, Backpacks, Kevlar, etc )

NCO Equipment ( Per Soldier )
(1) XM-8 Lightweight Assault Rifle
(1) SIG-Sauer P250 DCc Compatc Semi-Auto Handgun
(1) Comatant's Knife
(1) Japanese Military Fatigues
(1) Basic Japanese Equipment ( IE Cantines, Backpacks, Kevlar, etc )

Officer Equipment ( Per Soldier )
(1) HK G36 Assault Rifle
(1) SIG-Sauer P250 DCc Compatc Semi-Auto Handgun
(1) Samurai Katana
(1) Mini-Battle Knife
(1) Japanese Military Fatigues
(1) Basic Japanese Equipment ( IE Cantines, Backpacks, Kevlar, Cianide Pill, etc )

The equipment of the 3rd

Tank Crewman ( Per Soldier )
(1) MP-5 Submachinegun
(1) SIG-Sauer P250 DCc Compatc Semi-Auto Handgun
(1) Japanese Pilot Fatigues
(1) Basic Japanese Pilot Equipment ( IE Cantines, small packs, IE )

Deployment

The Japanese 27th Infantry Regiment and the Japanese 3rd Armored Brigade will be transported to the coast of France, and from there they will be sent to there assigned location.

Pyschotika

06-08-2005, 05:33

SIC:

Normandy Beach

The 27th had arrived first, which was as planned. They had taken Civilian Class Cruisers since it was much more faster than any war vessel, and since they wouldn't need any Naval support for now, and if they did it was ready near Greece. There was an airstrip just two miles away, and the troops marhced there way there. When they got there, they boarded several North Germanian planes and started there flight to Austria.

The 3rd would arrive in due time, not too long, and would be brought to Austria by trains.

OOC: I'll post the arrival of tanks tommorow since it is late.

Pyschotika

06-08-2005, 14:27

SIC:

West of Innsbruck, Tyrol Austria

The Japanese 27th had arrived at a Military base at Innsbruck and had been transported by vehicles to the desired location of defense.

Normandy Beach

The 3rd had arrived over night and were on there way to Austria via Train.

Cotland

06-08-2005, 14:46

A notice went out to the 15th and 19th Assault Flotillas, currently on cruise in the Mediterranian, to go into the Germanian ports of Valencia and Marseille respectively. There, they would unload their Marine contingents and sail back to Cottish territory while the Marines helped protect the Germanians.

After twenty hours, the last of the Marines had been unloaded and the ships now headed for home again, leaving the Marines behind.

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Forces deployed in southern Europe

15th Marine Expeditionary Force

The Marine Expeditionary Force consists of

4 Marine Brigades

1 Tank Battalion

1 Recon Battalion

1 Artillery Brigade

1 Helicopter Brigade

1 Air Defense Battalion

1 UAV Platoon

Men
13 490 Combat, 4 210 Support (Navy)

Equipment used
Tanks/IFVs
LAV-300 ICV: 72
AAV7A1 ILV: 216
M1A3 Abrams MBT: 54
Artillery
M777 Towed Howitzer: 54
Helicopters
AH-1W Super Cobra: 32
AH-6J Little Bird: 16
CH-53E Sea Stallion: 16
UH-95 Huey II: 8
RQ-9A Predator B: 2
Air Defense
Starstreak HVM: 54
MIM-120 SLAMRAAM: 54
M163A2 PIVADS: 18
M2019A2 Layarteb 88: 18
Support vehicles
M2008A1 Dingo: 130
M2010A1 Bushmaster: 198
M939A2 Truck: 18
LAV-CC: 36

Weapons
M8A1 LAR: 5 600
M8A2 PWD: 4 600
M8A4 LSAW: 1 700
M35A1 LMG: 300
M24A2 Sniper: 300
M45A1 Pistol: 17 700
M72A5 LAW: 2 000
M141 SMAW: 1 200
Starstreak MANPAD: 700

19th Marine Expeditionary Force

The Marine Expeditionary Force consists of

4 Marine Brigades

1 Tank Battalion

1 Recon Battalion

1 Artillery Brigade

1 Helicopter Brigade

1 Air Defense Battalion

1 UAV Platoon

Men
13 490 Combat, 4 210 Support (Navy)

Equipment used
Tanks/IFVs
LAV-300 ICV: 72
AAV7A1 ILV: 216
M1A3 Abrams MBT: 54
Artillery
M777 Towed Howitzer: 54
Helicopters
AH-1W Super Cobra: 32
AH-6J Little Bird: 16
CH-53E Sea Stallion: 16
UH-95 Huey II: 8
RQ-9A Predator B: 2
Air Defense
Starstreak HVM: 54
MIM-120 SLAMRAAM: 54
M163A2 PIVADS: 18
M2019A2 Layarteb 88: 18
Support vehicles
M2008A1 Dingo: 130
M2010A1 Bushmaster: 198
M939A2 Truck: 18
LAV-CC: 36

Weapons
M8A1 LAR: 5 600
M8A2 PWD: 4 600
M8A4 LSAW: 1 700
M35A1 LMG: 300
M24A2 Sniper: 300
M45A1 Pistol: 17 700
M72A5 LAW: 2 000
M141 SMAW: 1 200
Starstreak MANPAD: 700

The Lightning Star

06-08-2005, 18:08

OOC: CURSES! I was writing something, then my computer went uh-oh and I lost it ><.

To recap what I put- Krakow and Warsaw turned into a Stalingrad type situation. Poles in warring areas(the yellow areas on map) lose in direct combat, but balance it out with guerrilla tactics and destroying Germanian convoys(a la vietcong, minus the not-very-nice torture tactics). In the Lublin Sejm, they realise that they are screwed if they don't get international assistance, so they send a message to RomeW and Carthage respectively to see if either(or both) wish to take control of the freed areas of Poland and make it their protectorate.

Pyschotika

06-08-2005, 19:35

Tyrol Austria, west of Innsbruck

The tanks and troops were all ready, and were awaiting there commands. A few trilingual officers, knowing Italian German and Japanese, were speaking with some Germanian officers about how things would be planned out.

The Lightning Star

06-08-2005, 22:15

[NS]Kreynoria

06-08-2005, 23:26

So it corresponds to the major Axis Powers in WWII (although Italy kinda sucked)

Pyschotika

07-08-2005, 00:10

OOC:

First Off:

Because I can choose to do so, not because they were Axis powers. Also because I AM Roman Italian, and it is in JUST the case RomeW invades NG with you if everything doesn't go so well. ( Questioning )

Second Off:

Hitler didn't really give Italy anything to do, and kept warning Mussoulini not to send to many troops, so he ended up sending a lot less troops with almost no experience keeping the rest in Italy. And Italy ended up losing the War because of there losses in Africa, which kinda jacked everyone's Morale. But the Italians ( Romans ) kicked ass 2000 years ago anyways :-P

Pantheaa

07-08-2005, 01:09

To: Polish Resistance
You have our full support in your fight for freedom in Poland. We Pantheans know what it feels like to be blackmailed and robbed by the fourth Reich while the weak and useless Roman Confederacy could do nothing to preserve peace in Europe. Its only a matter of time before the world's people stand up and revolt against the imperialists.

We are willing to supply the resistance with IED's, RPG's as well as expert Mercenaries. Good luck and Godspeed comrades

President Ivan Kerensky
United Federation of Pantheaa

Cotland

07-08-2005, 01:23

The helicopter contingent finally arrived at Camp Danzig, two weeks delayed. They had been carried on a train that had been attacked by the Poles, and been stranded in the middle of nowhere for a day before they could get moving. It had turned out that the choppers had taken damage, and needed to be returned to Cotland for repairs. Now, they were finally arriving at the camp.

Rotary Contingent Danzig

AH-6J Little Bird: 8

AH-75A Stalker: 12

CH-47E Chinook: 8

UH-60L Black Hawk: 16

The helicopters, the 152 crewmembers and the 550 maintenance personell were placed in the camp, protected by the 69th Infantry and the Air Force SAM and AAA sites. The MIM-120 and M2025 sites weren't to be messed with. Nor were the M2A5 Bradleys and M2026A1 Imperators to be messed with. If anyone were stupid enough to attack, they would find themselves dead pretty quickly.

The Lightning Star

07-08-2005, 02:02

The Suffete
There was much more energy in the Suffete than even before. They had officaly been asked to let the new polish republic become a protectorate of the TechnoCaliphate. On top of that, Cotland had broken from the confederacy, and the only nations that had so far seemed willing to back Carthage in it's military conflict against North Germania had been Pantheaa and Rome. This coming conflict would decide if democracy or tyrannic dictatorships governed the world, and they had to make sure they made the right moves.

OOC: To be completed, out of time ><

Pyschotika

07-08-2005, 02:06

The Lightning Star

07-08-2005, 02:49

OOC:

Hey...because I am " The Grand Japanese Empire " doesn't mean I'm Imperialistic...I'm just the oppisite. I've GIVEN out more land then invade and conquer land.

:'( meanies with there messed up propaganda...

I'm waiting for NG to get back to AIM....

OOC: I never said you were imperialistic :p. I said it would be a war between the People and Tyrants. And Pantheaa was refering to NG. He is the most brutal and imperialist dictatorship in EII :)

Pyschotika

07-08-2005, 03:21

OOC: I never said you were imperialistic :p. I said it would be a war between the People and Tyrants. And Pantheaa was refering to NG. He is the most brutal and imperialist dictatorship in EII :)

I know, I was being silly...

RomeW

07-08-2005, 08:51

The Lightning Star

07-08-2005, 15:51

OOC: No time for a big post, but I should mention that my country doesn't speak Italian- they speak Latin. We are "Roman" after all (though as an aside, I really think the Romance Languages are just the evolved forms of Latin today, especially Italian).

OOC: Aye. Mine speak some Punic, but only in the Greater Carthage and Numidia areas. Arabic is far more widely spoken, as is English(my people are traders, after all), Hindi, and Urdu. And then theres a few more languages that I won't go in to :p.

I'd hate to be in NG though. They speak like 50 different languages in all the areas he has O_o

Pyschotika

07-08-2005, 16:08

OOC:

NG Regulates a Common tongue being Germanian, a form of German.

Yea I should have figured you spoke Latin, but Italian is still fun to have. I never said I had other officers who specailized IN Latin, Japanese, Germanian, Russian, and a few others. They all varrie.

Si vis Pacem, Para Bellum! Thats my favorite saying.

Cotland

07-08-2005, 16:29

Si vis Pacem, Para Bellum! Thats my favorite saying.

OOC: Hey! That's my national motto! You stole it! ;) :p

The Lightning Star

07-08-2005, 16:57

TechnoCaliphate-Fourth Reich Border, South Asia

All was quiet in the sleepy city of Talogan(pop:42,129). Although it was the capital of Carthaginian Afghanistan, there wasn't much in Carthaginian Afghanistan to begin with. Pashto farmers would come in to sell their goods, factory workers would work in their factories, etc. It was a night like any night, except for one thing. The army had been mobilizing, as if there was a war coming. Of course, the people of Talogan weren't very well informed on the subject. They heard talk of a "Pole-land" and "Germanian oppression", but they didn't really care. After all, this was all going on in Europe, and what did Europe have to do with their sleepy city? There were some, however, that knew it had everything to do with Talogan. After all, the very nation with which relations were deteriorating with was right next door. Sure, it was mostly a colonial backwater, but it was still part of the North Germanian empire.

Thankfully, it seemed that the Germanians had focused more on keeping their European empire together(which required alot of work, due to the fact that they were controlling god knows how many different peoples, and they weren't doing it the nice way, either). The tribal leaders had decided that something had to be done. They were masters of this terrain, not the Germanians. They were the people of the mountains. They were the Mujahideen, and they had made sure for hundreds of years that no infidels or imperialists would take their precious nation. Unfortunatly, they had failed. They had been subjugated by the Parthian Empire for many hundreds of years, and then it collapsed. They controlled Afghanistan once more.

Unfortunatly, they could not control it for long. The Imperialistic powers soon came marching in, and the Caliphate could only help so much land back then. So while some of the country was spared, the rest was not. The Imperialist europeans controlled central Afghanistan. But that area was mountains, and mountains was were the Mujahideen thrived. So, the tribal leaders made a plan. A plan to send in the Mujahideen. They would hide in the mountains, and then quickly strike the few Germanians that there were. They would play their small part in this soon to be Freedom War, so that they could support these Poles, to whom they had no connection either than the same experience of having their homeland be ruled by the Germanians.

OOC: You may not think this has anything to do with Poland, but if war breaks out, you don't think I'll go straight for Poland, do ya? It would be impossible. But Afghanistan is right there...

And boy, NG, why did you choose to take over such rebellious peoples? The Afghans, the Poles... :D

Cotland

07-08-2005, 18:41

OOC: Should we make a new thread for the combat actions, or take it all here?

The Lightning Star

07-08-2005, 18:47

OOC: Should we make a new thread for the combat actions, or take it all here?

OOC: Well, seeing how there is already combat in this thread, methinks we shuld stay.

And also, NG needs to respond eventually =/.

[NS]Kreynoria

07-08-2005, 22:14

Hawdawg

07-08-2005, 23:18

Official Communique to North Germania

"In response to the growing threat to our allies, we will deploy several Airborne Divisions in Poland to assist North Germanian and Cottish Forces in maintaining stability and/or seeking out insurgents in the region. We are committing 10 Airborne Divisions to this mission. Should the need arise for more assistance, we stand ready to intervene at a moments notice. Enclosed is a routine flight plan, protocols, etc. needed before arrival. We will be arriving at 0700 hours at the Airbase outside of Warsaw."

Signed,

Josey Wales
Prime Minister
Holy Republic of Hawdawg

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Holy Republic of Hawdawg ORBAT for Polish Campaign
Mechanized Airborne Divisions (5)
Divisions deployed: 155th, 159th, 225th, and 341st

Each Mechanized Airborne Division reflects the men and material listed below:

Includes Vehicles and equipment for completely outfitting:
1 Division HQ, 1 Signal Bn, 1 Intelligence/Electronic Warfare Bn, 1 Recon Bn, 1 Anti-Tank Bn, 1 Divisional Band, 1 MP Company, 1 Chemical Warfare Company
3 Combat Brigade (total of 6 Airborne Mechanized Infantry Bn & 3 Airborne Armored Bn)
1 Artillery Brigade (3 TH Bn & 1 Light MLRS Bn)
1 Aviation Brigade (3 Attack Helicopter Bn, 1 Support Helicopter Bn, & 1 Armored & Air Cavalry Squadron)
1 Engineer Brigade (3 Light Engineer Bn)
1 Air Defense Brigade (2 Forward Air Defense Bn, 1 Medium Air Defense Bn)
1 Support Brigade (1 Main Support Bn, 3 Forward Support Bn, 1 Medical Bn)
1 Intel & Electronic Warfare Bn
Total Personnel: 19,308 (6,371 Combat, 12,937 Logistical Support)

Major Equipment:
(201) Kit Fox II LT
(351) Stormcrow II Airborne IFV
(41) Stormcrow II Airborne CFV
(58) LOSAT II
(54) M119A1 Light Towed Howitzer
(18) HIMARS
(60) Stormcrow II Self-Propelled Mortar
(66) Stormcrow II FISTV
(314) M113A3
(162) M577A3
(18) M9 Armored Combat Earthmover
(36) Kit Fox II AVLB
(2) M88 ARV
(12) M93A1 Fox NBC Recon Vehicle
(18) Volcano
(90) Avenger FAADV
(36) CLAWS Air Defense Vehicle
(96) RAH-66A Comanche Attack Helicopter
(38) UH-60L Black Hawk Utility Helicopter
(4) EH-60 Quick Fix EW Helicopter
(1800) Assorted HMMWV
(2000) Assorted Trucks

Mechanized Airborne Armory:
(12,000) G36A5 Assault Rifle
(3000) Neostead Combat Shotgun
(700) M-29 OICW
(200) MSG-90 DMR
(72) M40A1 Sniper Rifle
(18) M82A1 Heavy Sniper Rifle
(6) IWS-2000 Anti-Material Rifle
(700) M249A3 SAW/LMG
(350) MG-3 GPMG
(50) M2HB HMG
(50) Mk.19 AGL
(75) Javelin Infantry ATGM launcher
(300) Stinger Launcher
(1500) M136 AT4 LAW
(12,000) Cougar Pistol
(5000) MP-7 PDW
(1000) Land Warrior Systems (1 squad per infantry platoon).

Airborne Infantry Division (5)
Divisions deployed: 722nd, 724th, 802nd, and 806th

Each Airborne Infantry Division reflects the men and material listed below:

Includes Vehicles and equipment for completely outfitting:
1 Division HQ, 1 Signal Bn, 1 Intelligence/Electronic Warfare Bn, 1 Recon Bn, 1 Anti-Tank Bn, 1 Divisional Band, 1 MP Company, 1 Chemical Warfare Company
3 Combat Brigade (total of 9 Airmobile Infantry Bn)
1 Artillery Brigade (3 TH Bn & 1 Light MLRS Bn)
1 Aviation Brigade (3 Attack Helicopter Bn, 1 Support Helicopter Bn, & 1 Air Recon (Cav) Squadron)
1 Engineer Brigade (3 Light Engineer Bn)
1 Air Defense Brigade (2 Forward Air Defense Bn, 1 Medium Air Defense Bn)
1 Support Brigade (1 Main Support Bn, 3 Forward Support Bn, 1 Medical Bn)
1 Intel & Electronic Warfare Bn
Total Personnel: 18,770 (6,194 Combat, 12,576 Logistical Support)

Major Equipment:
(58) LOSAT II
(66) M981 FISTV
(54) M119A1 Light Towed Howitzer
(18) HIMARS
(60) 120mm Mortar
(18) M9 ACE
(2) M88 ARV
(6) M93A1 Fox NBCR
(90) Avenger FAADV
(36) CLAWS Air Defense Vehicle
(96) AH-1W Cobra Attack Helicopter
(38) UH-60L Black Hawk Utility Helicopter
(4) EH-60 Quick Fix EW Helicopter
(1900) Assorted HMMWV
(1250) Assorted Trucks

Airborne Infantry Armory:
(12,000) G36A5 Assault Rifle
(3000) Neostead Combat Shotgun
(700) M-29 OICW
(200) MSG-90 DMR
(72) M40A1 Sniper Rifle
(18) M82A1 Heavy Sniper Rifle
(6) IWS-2000 Anti-Material Rifle
(900) M249A3 SAW/LMG
(500) MG-3 GPMG
(100) M2HB HMG
(100) Mk.19 AGL
(175) Javelin Infantry ATGM launcher
(300) Stinger Launcher
(2000) M136 AT4 LAW
(54) 82mm Mortar
(108) 60mm Mortar
(12,000) Cougar Pistol
(5000) MP-7 PDW
(1200) Land Warrior Systems (1 squad per infantry platoon).

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Stroom AirBase
Helsinki, Finland

Men and material put the finishing touches on the tremendous amount of gear needed for this campaign. C-130's where loaded to maximum capacity with troops while the C-5 Galaxy's hauled the heavy weapons of war and supplies the Airborne troops would need to sustain a fight. The word down the line things were getting hairy in Poland, but this didn't bother General Peet. He was a seasoned veteran of many campaigns from Africa to Okinawa and helping to put down this insurrection would be no different than the last one. His mind wandered as a young Lt. approached.

Lt. Keen: "Sir, we haven't recieved confirmation from North Germania for permission to fly into Warsaw. All our equipment is almost loaded and the men are restless sir."

Gen. Peet: "Patience laddy, North Germania knows we are coming, the Prime Minister sent them a flash message earlier today. Besides we got an invite. Relax tell the men to load up and we will depart within the hour."

Lt. Keen: "I sir."

As the young Lt. scurried off to handle the instructions Gen. Peet began to slowly stroke his handle bar mustache. He had grown it to cover the horrible scar he had recieved in a knife fight in Jakarta. That poor sap that cut him didn't have a chance, lucky for Peet he made it to the consulate before the local police caught up with him. Now it was time for him to meet and greet that poor bugger's relatives in Warsaw.

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0500
Stroom AirBase
Helsinki, Finland

The cargo planes lumbered down the runway and took a bearing SSE towards Poland soon the flight group would be in radio contact with North Germanian outposts and then once over Poland the trip wouldn't take long. Gen. Peet anxiously awaited the landing in Warsaw.

The Lightning Star

09-08-2005, 05:17

b00000mp

Pyschotika

10-08-2005, 22:59

....hmmm

The Lightning Star

10-08-2005, 23:10

....hmmm

I can only do so much until NG comes back ><

Layarteb

10-08-2005, 23:41

Pyschotika

11-08-2005, 00:42

OOC: Am I the only one with the notion that were all about to go into WWII?

Layarteb

11-08-2005, 00:52

OOC: Am I the only one with the notion that were all about to go into WWII?

I'd say the war with Yelm was a definitely start of World War II as it was more of a war than all of WWI was for us. It seems that has expanded to a current conflict.

Pyschotika

11-08-2005, 00:58

OOC: Well not to mention both of these wars will link together some how, and then we'll have our verry own Axis and Allies...yay...lol

The Lightning Star

11-08-2005, 01:47

OOC: Keep in mind NG is moving to Louisana right now.

Official Message from the EOL

Despite the support said nations have given the Empire of Layarteb with our fight against Yelm, we cannot allow this to continue. Effective immediately, the Empire of Layarteb stands by its strongest ally, North Germania. Any hostile actions against the Fourth Reich will be met with retaliation by the Empire of Layarteb. We wish for this to have a peaceful resolution as war is not necessary after the disaster we have just experienced in Ecuador.

The Emperor

OOC: OMFG! You hypocrite :D

You said you would only intervene in wars if they directly affected you! And this doesnt! MWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAAA! You're not semi-isolationalist anymore. It's just like what happened in WWI, maaaaaaaan...

ic: Offical Response by the Grand Duke

While we are saddened by the decision of the EOL to take a side in this conflict that will ultimatly accomplish nothing but pain and agony, we respect their opinions. However, please note that North Germania has shunned any attempt at a peaceful resolution. While they continue to take away the rights of the people, there cannot be peace with North Germania. Like with the Parthian Empire, who were similar in many ways to the Fourth Reich, we can only hope that time will bring down the beast, or at least show the Fourth Reich the err of its ways. And if war is to break out, I hope that you and your allies can fight with honor, for even if you don't, that is what we intend to do.

Grand Duke Alphonse of Zarzis

OOC: Ahh yes, mein fate is sealed :p.

Layarteb

11-08-2005, 04:18

OOC: OMFG! You hypocrite :D

You said you would only intervene in wars if they directly affected you! And this doesnt! MWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAAA! You're not semi-isolationalist anymore. It's just like what happened in WWI, maaaaaaaan...

ic: Offical Response by the Grand Duke

While we are saddened by the decision of the EOL to take a side in this conflict that will ultimatly accomplish nothing but pain and agony, we respect their opinions. However, please note that North Germania has shunned any attempt at a peaceful resolution. While they continue to take away the rights of the people, there cannot be peace with North Germania. Like with the Parthian Empire, who were similar in many ways to the Fourth Reich, we can only hope that time will bring down the beast, or at least show the Fourth Reich the err of its ways. And if war is to break out, I hope that you and your allies can fight with honor, for even if you don't, that is what we intend to do.

Grand Duke Alphonse of Zarzis

OOC: Ahh yes, mein fate is sealed :p.

OOC: This does directly affect me, NG is a very close ally so no I am not a hypocrit.

The Empire of Layarteb sees the actions and the desires of the Carthage to be the catalyst for instability in the world. Until these desires were solidified, the situation in Europe was stable.

The Emperor

Pyschotika

11-08-2005, 04:38

And if war is to break out, I hope that you and your allies can fight with honor, for even if you don't, that is what we intend to do.

OOC: Hmm....Japanese....Kamikaze....suicide over being captured....

Yes, I know my men will fight with honor.

The Lightning Star

11-08-2005, 05:02

OOC: Hmm....Japanese....Kamikaze....suicide over being captured....

Yes, I know my men will fight with honor.

OOC: Ahhh, but there are Ninjas, no? Ninjas=freak-ay!

The Lightning Star

11-08-2005, 05:07

OOC: This does directly affect me, NG is a very close ally so no I am not a hypocrit.

The Empire of Layarteb sees the actions and the desires of the Carthage to be the catalyst for instability in the world. Until these desires were solidified, the situation in Europe was stable.

The Emperor

OOC: Sure, sure, that's what they all say. "But <insert country here> is a very close ally!" You are going down the same path as the United States did. Soon, your tyrant brethren will need your assistance more and more, and you will give it more and more.

IC:

Sure, we may have had stability, but at what cost? Humanity has become stagnant, and the peoples of the world are oppressed. There are certain rights which all citizens need, and your allies do not give all of them. Also, we hardly call a tyrannical dictator taking over a continent to be "stable". The Fourth Reich may decide to invade nearby nations. Everyone knows the sole purpose of the Fourth Reich is to enslave the european continent. Our nation refuses to stand by and watch civilized peoples fall to the North Germanian menace.

Grand Duke Alphonse of Zarzis

Layarteb

11-08-2005, 15:24

OOC: Sure, sure, that's what they all say. "But <insert country here> is a very close ally!" You are going down the same path as the United States did. Soon, your tyrant brethren will need your assistance more and more, and you will give it more and more.

IC:

Sure, we may have had stability, but at what cost? Humanity has become stagnant, and the peoples of the world are oppressed. There are certain rights which all citizens need, and your allies do not give all of them. Also, we hardly call a tyrannical dictator taking over a continent to be "stable". The Fourth Reich may decide to invade nearby nations. Everyone knows the sole purpose of the Fourth Reich is to enslave the european continent. Our nation refuses to stand by and watch civilized peoples fall to the North Germanian menace.

Grand Duke Alphonse of Zarzis

The Empire wishes to ask who are you to dictate what rights people need. Surely, each country has the right to rule as it sees fit. The Fourth Reich is an authoritarian regime, just as the Empire. Under your logic it would seem that the Empire is also underneath your ideal of "dictator" as we are an authoritarian regime. What rights do you "feel" every human of the world should have and what justification do you use to offer these? Imposing "your" ideal of rights is no more tryannical than the Fourth Reich.

The Emperor

Pyschotika

11-08-2005, 15:29

OOC: Ahhh, but there are Ninjas, no? Ninjas=freak-ay!

OOC: No, Samurai.

Yes, there is a HUGE difference between both.

Samurai have a code of honor which they follow and make a part of there lives.

Ninjas have no code of honor. They are like pirates without the Parly code and ocean. They are just assasin's that will only work for the person with the biggest pocket. They will kill there own family if they have too.

I'm only using a Samurai based Regiment to make up for my military numbers and how much I will be using in the near future for my Civil War. I know that my Regiment will kill there selves if it means saving countless other men or winning some advantage, and I want to get verry nasty once everyone's troops are face to face.

[NS]Kreynoria

14-08-2005, 21:17

Yes, there is a huge difference between ninjas and samurai. Ninjas are mercenary assassins, and samurai are feudal lords and warriors. They fight with different weapons, train differently, and live completely differently.

The Lightning Star

15-08-2005, 16:26

The Empire wishes to ask who are you to dictate what rights people need. Surely, each country has the right to rule as it sees fit. The Fourth Reich is an authoritarian regime, just as the Empire. Under your logic it would seem that the Empire is also underneath your ideal of "dictator" as we are an authoritarian regime. What rights do you "feel" every human of the world should have and what justification do you use to offer these? Imposing "your" ideal of rights is no more tryannical than the Fourth Reich.

The Emperor

They are not our ideas. They are the ideas of humanity. Stretching back since the dawn of civilization, people have wished to rule themselves and to be treated fairly. Authoritarian regimes can never represent the will of the people, because the people will be too afraid to speak out for themselves. Humans have the right to choose their own leaders, to say what they want, to do what they want, and live how they want. If the people of Poland voted to keep their current government, then they should stay with their government. (Mind you, it would have to be a free and fair election). However, the overwhelming majority of the Polish people no longer wish to be oppressed. They no longer want to do what the posters on the streets say. They no longer want to keep silent about the people who "disappear" after they say something along the lines of "I wish we could vote for our leaders...". They want to rule themselves in a peaceful, democratic way. I do not think helping the people of Poland achieve self-rule is "imposing" our will. If the majority of Poles wanted to stay with North Germania, our soldiers would be the first to take down this rebellion. But since that isn't the case, we must help the Poles achieve what they wish.

Grand Duke Alphonse of Zarzis

Layarteb

15-08-2005, 19:06

Your ideals that all of humanity wishes to rule itself may constitute your own people but not those eslewhere. The people of Layarteb do not live in fear nor do they wish for self-rule in a democratic fashion. Your imposition of your ideals upon the people of Poland are no less tyrannical than those of North Germania. You are forcing them to accept democracy. This rebellion, though still being studied, seems to be a mere small group of people who are being coaxed by international leaders. We hereby question your motives in the area and feel that this is an attempt of the Carthigian government to expand their own territory and steal from that of the Fourth Reich.

The Emperor

Pyschotika

15-08-2005, 23:18

OOC: Well...I'd say something but I'd might as well copy what Lay said...

Great...is this the crap I'm gonna get once I announce my " Terrorist Organization/Rebellion " wants a " Republic ".....

The Lightning Star

16-08-2005, 12:47

OOC: Well...I'd say something but I'd might as well copy what Lay said...

Great...is this the crap I'm gonna get once I announce my " Terrorist Organization/Rebellion " wants a " Republic ".....

OOC:

Yes, this is the crap yer gonna get :D

Pyschotika

16-08-2005, 16:01

OOC:

Okay then...now to write something down in my personal notebook...

Note to Self:

Prepare for an all out Nuclear War...

Elephantum

16-08-2005, 16:51

Layarteb

16-08-2005, 23:24

Iceland and Ireland were dangerously close to the situation. Both were republics of the Empire and both key military points to any situation in Europe. Between Iceland, Ireland, and France, a SOSUS web had been put in place ages earlier, protecting it. This net was linked with the rest of the Atlantic, cented in the Azores and Bermuda, where both North Germania and the Empire had massive military forces. Patrols from aircraft and ships were, on the usual, active but now, with the looming situation, they were increased. Surface vessels patrolled the Atlantic, the Norwegian Sea, and the North Sea as well as maritime aircraft, primarily P-7A LRAACA and P-8A Excalibur anti-submarine aircraft. Helicopters with dipping sonars were usually used as well.

No fleet presence had been detected yet but they were coming, the Empire knew it. The Carthigian fleet had three ways of attacking Poland. They could attack from the south, from the Mediterranean Sea, which was out of the Empire's bounds. They could attack from teh north from the North Sea or Baltic Sea, that latter being suicide to try to squeeze through Denmarck and Sweden. To do that they would have to come between Ireland and Iceland, where they would be stopped. Lastly, they could come from the west, from the Atlantic and fly a long way across most of Europe. They would be within range of both the Azores and Ireland for attack as well.

Following the response from the Elephanti (right?) government, the Empire declared both republics under military alertness and increased REDCON to status 3, increased force readiness. This meant that patrols were up 50%, that mobilizations went underway, and that the entire Imperial Layartebian Military became a beehive of activity. War was not emminent yet so there was still time. If REDCON 1 was to be declared it meant war was imminent or ongoing. Thus far, the furthest that the ILM got to was REDCON 2, during the previous war with Yelm.

The Lightning Star

16-08-2005, 23:34

Official Statement from the Council of the Nine Sultans
Royal Palace, Manama, Bahrain
Encryption Level- Vermillion (2nd Highest)
Date-08/16/2005
Security Level-Secure Ultra Magna (Priority Foreign Government Communication)
Sender-Council of the Nine Sultans
Recipient of Message-Roman Government, Carthaginian Government
Subject-Poland
MESSAGE BEGINS

We have claimed neutrality over the Polish incident, but news of the massacres has reached the public and they demand action. We have mobilized troops in the Emirates and Arabia along the Omani border, raising them to Crisis Apparent Status. As a temporary precaution, our troops along the Indian, Arabian, Syrian, and Israeli borders have been raised to Crisis Growing Status. (one less than Apparent)

If direct war is to break out, we will gladly support you both, as you are among our greatest allies. We are also prepared to recognize the independence of the new Polish state.

If other assistance is needed, there is always a method available to reach the council.

-Hiraz e-Mumman
--Sultan of Bahrain, Foriegn Relations Sultan, Commandant of the Air Force

Offical Secret Reply

We are glad that our long-time ally Elephantum has decided to join our cause. No matter how small the contribution, we believe that the Polish people shall accept your gift.

In the Suffete
The Suffete had been heatedly debating over what was to happen. The North Germanians had denied the $40 Trillion, and it's allies were preparing for war. Even Carthage's long time ally Cotland, who had been allies with the Carthaginian people since the beginning of their state(and far before they were allies with North Germania), had abandoned them. The mighty forces of Tyranny were amassing large armies to crush the Polish revolt, which had grown so large so fast it had wiped the North Germanians off their feet. However, not all seemed bleak for Carthage and the Polish people. An alliance of freedom had been created, including the two largest democracies in the world, Rome and Carthage. Other nations, such as Pantheaa, Elephantum, and Kreynoria, had joined the righteous cause. Even though the alliance was heavily out-gunned compared the militaristic October Alliance, the remnants of the Roman Confederacy and it's allies were amassing for one last push for freedom. This war would decide whether humans were to be treated as serfs or as individuals.

After over 3 weeks of debate, the Suffete came to a unanimous agreement. They would accept the offer by the Free Polish Republic to join the Federal Carthaginian Union. The North Germanians had lost their chance of keeping Poland. They could have made it been semi-autonomous, with electons, their own mini-president, etc. However, they had chosen to burn down villages, and commit massacres not seen for many a year. North Germania ruled by fear, and the Poles no longer wanted to be ruled that way. They wanted to rule themselves, and Carthage offered that option. No longer would Carthage sit by and just moan. It would take action against the North Germanian Scourge.

However, before the reply could be sent, there had to be agreement between all the factions. To do this without setting off alarms all over the world, the leaders had already devised an ingenious plan...

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OOC: This is proof that NG really needs to get on...

Layarteb

16-08-2005, 23:38

Offical Secret Reply

We are glad that our long-time ally Elephantum has decided to join our cause. No matter how small the contribution, we believe that the Polish people shall accept your gift.

In the Suffete
The Suffete had been heatedly debating over what was to happen. The North Germanians had denied the $40 Trillion, and it's allies were preparing for war. Even Carthage's long time ally Cotland, who had been allies with the Carthaginian people since the beginning of their state(and far before they were allies with North Germania), had abandoned them. The mighty forces of Tyranny were amassing large armies to crush the Polish revolt, which had grown so large so fast it had wiped the North Germanians off their feet. However, not all seemed bleak for Carthage and the Polish people. An alliance of freedom had been created, including the two largest democracies in the world, Rome and Carthage. Other nations, such as Pantheaa, Elephantum, and Kreynoria, had joined the righteous cause. Even though the alliance was heavily out-gunned compared the militaristic October Alliance, the remnants of the Roman Confederacy and it's allies were amassing for one last push for freedom. This war would decide whether humans were to be treated as serfs or as individuals.

After over 3 weeks of debate, the Suffete came to a unanimous agreement. They would accept the offer by the Free Polish Republic to join the Federal Carthaginian Union. The North Germanians had lost their chance of keeping Poland. They could have made it been semi-autonomous, with electons, their own mini-president, etc. However, they had chosen to burn down villages, and commit massacres not seen for many a year. North Germania ruled by fear, and the Poles no longer wanted to be ruled that way. They wanted to rule themselves, and Carthage offered that option. No longer would Carthage sit by and just moan. It would take action against the North Germanian Scourge.

However, before the reply could be sent, there had to be agreement between all the factions. To do this without setting off alarms all over the world, the leaders had already devised an ingenious plan...

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OOC: This is proof that NG really needs to get on...

If that were something mildly resembling intelligent writing I might say "Uhhh okay..." Just remember NG is still moving from Alabama to Louisiana so we are giving him time.

Hawdawg

17-08-2005, 00:40

Department of Defense
Holy Republic of Hawdawg
Stockholm, Sweden

Defense Minister Gordon Wells sat comfortably in his chair reading the latest reports about the B-70B Bomber when his trusted aide Lt. Miles entered the office with an intel report.

Lt Miles: "Sir we have a SITREP on the Polish Problem. Well sir it looks as if war is coming. The Empire of Layarteb has increased Patrols in the North and Norwegian Seas and they have apparently began to actively seek out Sonar targets."

DM Wells: "I see, well what do we have in the area?"

Lt. Miles: "Sir we have the 1st, 3rd, and 8th Fleets available for service."

DM Wells: "Well I think we need to hold most of the 1st Fleet in Swedish waters to plug up any potential ships that make it into the Baltic Sea. Dispatch 1 Carrier Combat Group from the 1st Fleet to Gibraltar. Dispatch 1 Carrier Combat Group from the 1st Fleet to the Shetlands. Notify the 5th and 6th Coast Guard to increase littoral patrols and have at least 50% of the available ships out on patrol. I want P-3C patrols increased around our holdings in England and Gibraltar. Dispatch two Carrier Combat Groups from the 3rd Fleet to perform exercises in the Celtic Sea. Dispatch two Battle Groups from the 8th Fleet to take up station 100 nautical miles from Stavanger. We will have all our territories covered when the wolf comes."

Lt. Miles: "Sir, might I interject?"

DM Wells: "Certainly, what are you thinking?"

LT. Miles: "We need to get 2nd Fleet in Fiji involved in this sir. If Gibraltar comes under attack, we will need the subs to assist in repelling it. And the distance these vessels need to travel to get into the fight is great. Why don't we go ahead and dispatch them to the area, just in case."

DM Wells: "Good idea, get it done. One other thing I need to pen a letter to our allies in this, so they aren't alarmed by our activity."

Encrypted Message
128 Bit Encryption

To: North Germania, Cotland, Empire of Layarteb.

From: Defense Minister Gordon Wells

RE: Fleet Movements

Fellow allies we are in the process of moving several elements of our naval fleet into pre-positioned locations to combat a future attack from TLS and his allies. Do not be alarmed by the large number of vessels moving from port that you will most likely see on your satellite intel. We feel it is necessary to move into a more combat ready position out of port in open waters. We have stepped up Air Patrols and Gibraltar is in a state of Lock-Down. Our Coastal Patrols have been increased and the potential for accidents is high. Please notify all your vessels to monitor there positions at all times. Our patrols have been instructed to ask for identification of all vessels in our waters, failure to answer will result in a prompt sinking. Please advise all your naval forces.

Sincerely,

Gordon Wells
Minister of Defense
Holy Republic of Hawdawg

End Message

Elephantum

17-08-2005, 01:14

(ooc-yes, Elephanti)

ic

Official Statement from the Council of the Nine Sultans
Royal Palace, Manama, Bahrain
Encryption Level- Rose
Date-08/16/2005
Security Level-Secure Magna (Upper Echelon Government Communication)
Sender-Council of the Nine Sultans
Recipient of Message-Cotland, Layarteb, Carthage, Rome, Germania, et al
Subject-Mobilization
MESSAGE BEGINS

Due to the escalating actions of certain nations, the Council has called an emergency meeting and passed the following resolutions:

Troops in Antartica have been raised to Crisis Apparent Status, and research stations and penguin farms (the only civilian population in the Sultanate), have been encouraged to take emergency precautions.

All ships bearing a flag of Germania, Cotland, Layarteb, and the assorted other coalition members will be barred from entering Elephanti ports, as will planes hailing from above mentioned countries.

Section 7 of the Patriotism Act has been reinstated. Section 7 is the banning of public display of flags, insignia, and other symbols of select nations (the ones that we are embargoing {ooc-is that a word?} against). Historically, the only time Section 7 was enacted was in the First Hogsweatian War, when the Soviet presence in Arabia launched an assault on our sacred homeland of Bahrain. It still stands in that case.

-Nipuun Brahman
--Sultan of India, Commandant of the Navy, Minister of Commerce and Trade

Cotland

17-08-2005, 10:21

The situation in Europe was quickly deteriorating. Soldiers on both sides were being prepared for war, and in Cotland, new equipment was being rolled out from the production lines. Among the new equipment were the M2026A1 Imperator MBT, and a new addition that would replace the aging M2A5/M3A5 Bradley Fighting Vehicle, the M2027A1 Viking IFV.

The Viking had a crew of three (driver, gunner, commander), carried eight infantry dismounts, were armed with a 30 mm Bushmaster II chaingun, two machine guns and two twin TOW launchers. It had Germanian-developed armor, seven times more capable than steel armor, a weight of 24,7 metric tonnes and a speed of 80 kilometers/hour on roads, and 70 kilometers/hour in cross-country terrain. It had passed the design tests and pre-requisites with flying colors, and was now being produced at a extreme rate of 17 000 units a month! The first units would go to the forces in Cotland, more specifically the units that would be on the front lines in case of war.

Apart from that, a message went out to the entirety of the Cottish military, including reserves, to go to highest pre-war alert quietly and quickly. In less than 24 hours, the Cottish Army would consist of 3 million regulars and 11 million reservists.
The Navy would have 1,2 million regulars and 3 million reservists.
The Air Force would have 1 million regulars and 4 million reservists. Armories would be opened up, patriotic music would be played on the TV and radio, and the Emperor would hold a national adress wearing his uniform, a thing not often seen by the people, since he didn't wear it unless it was serious.

If it really came to war, the Imperial Cottish Armed Forces would be ready for it! And if it didn't, then the Armed Forces would get valuable training in mobilizing!

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The message from the Elephanti government, a nation that the Empire had used to have close ties with, had arrived at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and immediately been forwarded to the Ministry of Defense. Now, invasion plans for Elephantum was being made, just in case. However, the first thing needed would be to withdraw the embassy personell in Bahrain.

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Message to Elephantum

The Empire has recieved your communique with great sadness, but we will honor your requests. The Empire and Elephantum has enjoyed a long and strong friendship, but it seems that the Elephanti government no longer cares about that friendship. So be it.

We do however request permission for one Boeing 737-800 to land in Bahrain so that we may evacuate our embassy staff. They have been informed of the situation, and are preparing to evacuate as we speak (OOC: IE destroying any and all documents, computer drives, radios, etc in the embassy). Be advised that refusal of this request or any attempts of attack on the Cottish embassy or citizens therein will be considered an invasion attempt of Cottish soil, and therefore an act of war.

- Bjarne Dalgren
Minister of Foreign Affairs
Imperial Government of Cotland

Message to Germania, Layarteb, Hawdawg

The Empire has just increased its military readiness to BERSTAT-3, which means that we are mobilizing the entirety of our military arsenal. Before any eventual combat actions commence, I would like to ensure among us, the allies, that weapons of mass destruction will not be used in a eventual campaign against our enemies.

Further more, I have noticed that Pantheaa is involved in the conflict on the enemy side. If it comes to war, I would like to request assistance in invading Pantheaa, who lies right next to Cotland. If it comes to war, the Imperial Cottish Army intends to start a Blitzkrieg-style attack all across the border, using the entirety of the 5th Army (roughly 10 divisions) and supported by large numbers of airplanes. Any allied nation that wish to deploy forces against Pantheaa may do so with our blessing.

Due to the close vicinity from Orenburg to Cotlandstad (OOC: the capital city), we will have substantial additional forces ready to reinforce the 5th Army, but the more the merrier.

Naval forces in the Mediterranian, Norwegian Sea and Baltic, as well as forces in the Pacific, has increased patrols and given orders to shoot first and skip the questions. So far, the Navy and Coast Guard has sunk twelve "fishing vessels" using missiles and/or cannons (OOC: Think Ragnarok class BBG versus small fishing boat), or so the surviving crews the Coast Guard fished up claimed.

The Empire will support any actions taken by the allies should it come to war, save for the use of WMDs. God be with us all.

- Thomas I
Emperor of Cotland

The Lightning Star

17-08-2005, 13:52

If that were something mildly resembling intelligent writing I might say "Uhhh okay..." Just remember NG is still moving from Alabama to Louisiana so we are giving him time.

OOC: I know :D

But you see, now you don't know what the result of the conversation is. The plan works perfectly! :D

Secret Offical Communiqe to all Allied Nations
Encryption Level: 1337(OOC: The highest there is, so you can't read it if it wasn't sent to you)
Our government has approved accepting Poland into the Carthaginian Federal Union as an autonomous state. Our troops are on high-alert, and every border that we have with Coalition forces has been heavily fortified. We find it unnerving that the Fourth Reich has been silent so far, leading us to believe that either A. there is nothing going in that country, or B. they have developed an un-traceable way to communicate. We believe we should assign who will fight who and where.

It's already obvious that Pantheaa will be forced to fight off Cotland, and although they are evenly matched, Pantheaa may need some assitance. Rome is the only country that has large territories in North America, so if a front is to appear there Rome will probably take the brunt of the attack. Elephantum has a border with North Germania in the Arabian Peninsula, so it will be up to them to go after that. Elephantum is also the only of our allies to have land in Antarctica. Kreynoria is geared towards Island Warfare, so they should be in Charge of the Pacific war. Also, Cotland has a small sliver of land inside of Italy. If Rome is too busy to devote troops there, we would be more than glad to take it for you.

Finally, it comes to Carthage. We will first try to secure our hold on the Mediterranean, by sending our forces to overwhelm and destroy Hawdawg's North African claims, and to capture Egypt. Taking down Cotland will be tough, but the war with Pantheaa should spread their forces thin enough for us to have a very high chance of winning. During this time, we shall capture the Belearic Islands. Also, our Eastern Army will invide Germanian Afghanistan, and our forces from Saudi Arabia shall make sure neither side can use the Suez Canal.

If anyone need extra protection, we may be able to provide it. Even though our armed forces takes up over 5 million personnel(excluding logistics), even we have our limits(as the war with Yelm showed). It would be wise to get Duke Barol or Greenmanbry on our side, but seeing how even our staunch ally Cotland abandoned us, convincing them to join us will be tough.

Please give your input, so that we can tweak this plan to perfection.
End Transmission

OOC: Err, can we have a list of who is on what side?If you're with NG, your a member of the Coalition. If you're with Carthage(me), you're a member of the Alliance.

Why are those the names? Because I say they are :p. But if you like, your team could choose like "The uber-monkies of Funkytown" or something...

Cotland

17-08-2005, 18:48

OOC: Ok, I should probably list what I've got where.

Army:

Egypt

2nd Army
4x Armored Divisions
8x Mechanized Infantry Divisions
4x Light Infantry Divisions
1x Airborne Division
3x Medical Brigades
4x Combat Engineer Brigades
2x LAV Engineer Brigades

Norway

6th Army
5x Mechanized Infantry Divisions
9x Light Infantry Divisions
3x Medical Brigades
3x Combat Engineer Brigades
4x LAV Engineer Brigades

Liberia

7th Army
1x Armored Division
3x Mechanized Infantry Divisions
8x Light Infantry Divisions
2x Medical Brigades
1x Combat Engineer Brigade
2x LAV Engineer Brigade

Cotland

1st Army
6x Armored Divisions
9x Mechanized Infantry Divisions
1x Medical Brigades
5x LAV Engineer Brigades

3rd Army
3x Armored Divisions
5x Mechanized Infantry Divisions
6x Light Infantry Divisions
2x Medical Brigades
4x Combat Engineer Brigades

4th Army
9x Armored Divisions
3x Mechanized Infantry Divisions
2x Medical Brigades
6x LAV Engineer Brigades

5th Army
6x Armored Divisions
4x Mechanized Infantry Divisions
1x Medical Brigade
4x Combat Engineer Brigades

8th Army
9x Airborne Divisions
1x Medical Brigade
3x LAV Engineer Brigades

9th Army
8x Armored Divisions
7x Mechanized Infantry Divisions
1x Light Division
3x Medical Brigades
3x LAV Engineer Brigades

10th Army
3x Armored Divisions
6x Mechanized Infantry Divisions
2x Light Infantry Divisions
2x Medical Brigades
4x Combat Engineer Brigades

Marine Corps:

Egypt
2x Marine Brigades (shore defense)

Norway
2x Marine Brigades (shore defense)

Carolina
1x Marine Brigade (shore defense)

Liberia
2x Marine Brigades (shore defense)

Monaco
280 Marines (security detail)

Pacific
2x Marine Brigades (island defense)

Malta
1x Marine Brigade (island defense)

Cotland
10x Marine Brigades (shore defense)

Navy:

See my military factbook, but as for Egypt, say 1 Battleship Squadron, 2 Universe Battlegroups, 3 Nimitz Battlegroups, 3 Assault Flotillas (with embarked 3 MEFs) and 2 submarine squadrons are there. Also, two Mine Flotillas around the Suez.

Rest, check the military factbook in my signature.

Air Force:

Egypt
14x Fighter Wings
8x Bomber Wings
5x Ground Attack Wings
11x Transport Wings
3x Recon Wings

Norway
9x Fighter Wings
4x Bomber Wings
1x Ground Attack Wing
7x Transport Wings
2x Recon Wings

Malta
5x Fighter Wings
1x Bomber Wing
3x Transport Wings
1x Recon Wing

Carolina
5x Fighter Wings
1x Bomber Wing
4x Transport Wings
1x Recon Wing

Liberia
8x Fighter Wings
2x Bomber Wings
1x Ground Attack Wing
5x Transport Wings
2x Recon Wings

Cotland
37x Fighter Wings
20x Bomber Wings
7x Ground Attack Wings
38x Transport Wings
5x Recon Wings

Also, there are loads of air defenses in all of my posessions.

In Egypt, there are roughly 800 SAM groups. About 200 of those are low-level SAM groups, the rest are Patriot. Also, there are 100 AAA groups and 400 flak groups there. The majority of the air defenses are concentrated around the largest cities and the Suez, although I have a full coverage of the Egyptian airspace with redundancy.

In Norway, there are SAM and AAA/flak coverage with plenty of redundancy (roughly 500 SAM sites, 75 AAA groups and 300 flak groups).

Somewhat smaller in the other posessions, with the exception of Malta, which has 20 Patriot SAM groups, 10 low-level SAM groups, 30 flak groups and 20 AAA groups. Loads of defense for that little rock.

In Cotland, I keep the rest of the equipment. Somewhere between 4 and 5 thousand SAM sites, hundreds of AAA and a thousand flak sites. Also, all major cities have ABM coverage.

Almost all missile regiments are kept in Cotland, with the exception of ten SSM Regiments. There are six in Egypt and four in Norway. These fire the Tactical Tomahawk cruise missile, and are conventional.

For location of the Coast Guard, check the military factbook. Also of note, if anyone attempts to invade Cotland itself (the Russian holdings), they will have to deal with the Imperial Guards (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9264084&postcount=12)...

Now, did I miss something?

Pyschotika

17-08-2005, 22:12

OOC:

WHAT THE FUCK?!!!

WHY DOES EVERYONE ALWAYS EXCLUDE ME!!?!!

MESSAGE TO COTLAND NORTH GERMANIA AND LAYARTEB

GREETINGS ALLIES LALALA

....

ALL SHIPS BEARING THE NORTH GERMANIAN, HAWDAWG, COTLAND, AND LAYARTEB FLAG ARE BARRED...BLABLABLA..

Why does NO ONE take me SERIOUSLY?!...

This always happens too.....

Pyschotika

17-08-2005, 22:24

Coalition Forces:

Layarteb
North Germania
Cotland
Hawdawg
Pyschotika

Alliance Forces:

Rome
Carthage
Kreynoria
Elephantum
Pantheaa

Sorry if I missed anyone.

SIC:

Mediteranian Sea

For some time now, the Japanase and Myanmar fleets sat in the Mediteranian sea. The war with Yelm was now mute, and the two fleets sat near the Island of Crete. They had no orders, and hadn't heard from the Emperor or any Generals for some time now. No one has taken account of the Naval presence in the sea, which was a good thing. The two fleets both carried a number of invasionary troops, still prepared for a beach landing.

West of Innsbruck, Austria

The 27th Infantry Regiment and the 3rd Armored had finished defences. They were ready to take on anyone that came running from out of the distance. They had no orders as of yet but to hold there position, war hadn't been made official which kept everyone around the globe at an obvious easy state of mind.

Toyko, Japan

With the prior terror attacks and a possible war and a possible civil war, the Japanese had there defence heightened to verry highest. All forces were deployed, Tokyo Japan was no longer as quite as a peaceful city. Troops stood at every corner, patrolled every alley way, and the occasional APC rolled down the streets. Tanks and even more defences were sat up outside of Tokyo, just like every other city under the Japanese flag. No one was allowed in or out of citys easily, infact it could take days for verification to let citizens to pass through. Osaka had recently " disapeared " and troops were preparing to invade. Osaka was apparently now the base of operations for the new rebellion that had popped up. Although no war was declare, the taking over of a city was quiet enough.

The Emperor was worried, wondering if the " Confederacy " would think it is justified to get there snooty noses involved too. It would stay a Japanese matter and would be handled by the Japanese, but not quite as the Germanians had handled the Polish uprising.

Elephantum

17-08-2005, 22:40

Official Reply to the Cottish Government

We too regret the apparent end of our long friendship. You were among our greatest allies, but your hostility towards the Romans and Carthaginians astounds us. By siding with a mass murderer over two of our allies, we had no choice but to side against you. Your plane will be allowed in and out of Bahrain without challenge.

Hiraz e-Mumman, Sultan of Bahrain, Foreign Relations Sultan, Commandant of the Air Force

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Offical Reply to the Allies

We will be willing to take command in the Arabian and Antartican fronts. In the Arabian front, one of our primary concerns is the Munsandam Peninsula, Germania's only land bordering the Gulf. If Neuvo Rica were to side with the Coalition, they could shut down trade in and out of the Gulf. Fortunately, the port of Khawr Fakkan in the Emirati Sultanate opens onto the Arabian Sea, and would provide an escape route. In order to prevent such an event from occuring, major fleet groups in Khawr Fakkan, Manama, and Umm Qasr (Iraq), are out at sea, ready to move if need be. We would suggest attempting to get the United Khanates to declare neutrality, or even better, support us in this conflict.

Antarctica is primarily a military Sultante, and can rely on the harsh climate of the frozen continent to help defend ourselves, but launching an offensive land battle would devestate Elephanti forces. Naval assaults by either side are tricky, due to the shifting ice floes and unpredictable nature of the landscape. Antarctica is likely to become a stalemate, with occasional air and sea battles deciding dominance in the reigon.

Geographic and logistical problems will keep us from being a major particpant in toher areas, but small naval groups, air wings, and divisions may be redirected to help in other fronts.

Military Council of Elephantum

Note-The Council of the Nine Sultans will issue a public announcement later.

Yelm

18-08-2005, 03:23

Baron Renour had just given Warlord Reynolds the latest information pretaining to the Polish situation. The Warlord quietly stroked his beard as he read the information with interest. "This is good information. The members of the coalition are beginning to bicker with each other. We can turn this into a profitable venture should the king decide to act." The Baron bowed, "Do you think the king will decide to commit ourselves to another conflict just as the peace conference is being organized?" The Warlord lowered the paper he was reading, "The king will do as he sees fit. His judgment is far better than yours, mine or anybody else. I do believe we will become involved somehow... Tell me Renour how has naval production been in Africa. After the destruction of the Salvation Fleet surely there has been an increase?" The Baron retrieved a series of papers from his briefcase, "Naval production has increase by 350%, and aircraft production by 100%. Dozens of more factories are being built as well." The Warlord thought out loud, "Yes, still in war production I see. Well don't send any messages to anyone yet. We shall see how this situation evolves." With that the Baron bowed and left the chamber room.

The Lightning Star

18-08-2005, 03:27

OOC: This must be a tough one IC for you, Yelm. You either side with the country that unleashed weapons of unspeakable horror upon your soldiers and attempted to take your South American claims, or you side with the nation that actually did steal your land, humiliated your fleet, and started the whole war(I'm talking about myself first and Layarteb second, btw).

Personally, I'd stay out of it, seeing how you could reap huge benefits. But siding with me would grant you an ally in Africa, while siding with NG and Layarteb will help you remove a rival from Africa...

Yelm

18-08-2005, 03:34

OOC: Well... I wouldn't call it a total humiliation. I did do some damage.
So far I really don't know who to side for right now. Both sides are evil in my people's opinion. Tough call indeed.

Layarteb

18-08-2005, 03:39

The Lightning Star

18-08-2005, 03:41

OOC: Well... I wouldn't call it a total humiliation. I did do some damage.
So far I really don't know who to side for right now. Both sides are evil in my people's opinion. Tough call indeed.

OOC: Really, though, I'd sit by and watch what happens. If not watch the entire war, then wait long enough until you see who's loosing, then jump in on the side that's going to win. Then reap the benefits.

OR you can wait till the war is over, everyone is uber-weak(alot of nations haven't even fully recovered from the war with you), then march around and conquer some lands. Fancy the Falklands? No way in monkey hell there will be anyone more than a regiment of soldiers there. Or would you rather have some more ice? Messa doubts that anyone will be at 100% efficency in Antarctica after the war down there, which promises to be quite a spectacle.

Of course, you either have to have no morals or send your people on a holy war against the "evil-doers". But I sense you'd have no problem with that...

The Lightning Star

18-08-2005, 03:42

OOC: I really need to stop giving people ideas on how to kill me ><

Pyschotika

18-08-2005, 04:08

OOC: Well me declaring war on Yelm in the first place was verry helpful to me. If any damage was done in our naval battle, it was light. I did have my Myanmar fleet doing the fighting, which didn't really have any landing troops to begin with. So yea, I guess you could wait untill the end but what if there isn't an end? This is a war between two verry powerful sides that will resort to WMDs even though they vow not too, just you wait and see. And no, I'm not promoting in nuclear warfare, but there will be some inevitably.

Elephantum

18-08-2005, 04:54

OOC1-Psych, I only put the people I was sure were against me, I didnt want to accidentally ban an allied flag.

ooc2-military overviews coming tommorow or friday, as TKT just probably turned the war hot

Official Public Speech, Council of the Nine Sultans (ooc3-displayed on all stations in the country, available to foriegn press for free)

Hiraz e-Mumman-My fellow citizens, tonight we find ourselves on the precipice of disaster. Actions taken by the murderous Germanians and thier allies have forced us, along with our allies, to take action. War is coming, and we must now move to defend our homes and heritage. Some of the world's greatest and most historic cities are now threatened by the might of Layarteb, Germania, Cotland, and Mercetonia (did you change back?). Baghdad, Dubai, Madras, Damascus, Riyadh, New Delhi, Rome, Jerusalem, Medina, Meccah, the list goes on. These historic sites must be protected. Some opposing nations, like the Cots, have mistreated religious minorities in the recent past. They will defile your holy places, cast you into exile, and devestate your people. Help your country and your people. Make sure you do your best to help your nation in the coming war effort. Be ready to fight to defend your family. Work for a better nation, so that it may create a better world. Whether you are an Antarctican Penguin farmer, a Kuwaiti oil merchant, or an Indian peasant, there is work to be done. We must not fall victim to the murdering Germanians. They will kill you and your family if they get the chance, simply because of your heritage and your choice to live in our fine country. We shall not let them. Whatever must be done, will. They shall be stopped. We shall stop them, YOU shall stop them, because there is no other choice. To war, if we must!

Thank you, and good night

(ooc-the propaganda machine's up and running)

Pyschotika

18-08-2005, 05:00

OOC: Actually, its been changed since the death of Michael Feldinchii. It is now just Japan ^_^.

Also yea, I was just a bit upset because not even my own allies were listing me. This always happens with all my conflicts....kinda makes me feel left out >_>.

Also, if you look into my nation a bit and watch my Civil War break out, you'll realize I have a lighter way of dealing with rebellions.

North Germania

18-08-2005, 07:03

OOC: Sorry, guys. Eight trips across two state borders in six days will wear you out. Not to mention my girlfriend and I are having some severe problems, my car broke down, etc. Now, I'm going to screw you all over.

IC:

Poland was isolated inside of the European continent. While the brigands may see this as a display of power, it was a joke to the German military. Within 36 hours, the entire rebellion could be crushed... but at what expense?

The Poles were not so much the problem, but the decadent, bleeding-heart democracies. The U-Boats were constantly patrolling the Mediteranean, and because of the the high need for the opium plants in Afghanistan in order to produce Morphine for the Army, it was guarded well. The Afghanistankorps were by no means unprepared for an attack.

As far as Oman was concerned, high command received most of its oil from there, and thus it too was well-guarded.

The Afrikakorps would only require a few pushes North to gain control of the Med. Sea from the South. It was clear to the Führer that a pre-emptive strike was necessary.

And it had been decided that such a strike would occur in Italy. The Alpinkorps, supported by the Stange-OS - both groups quite familiar with the Alps - would have little placing their foot in the Italian boot.

Moreover, if North Africa were to be secured, a dual-front against Italy could be easily launched. And if Carthage and Rome cared about their own land, they would deal with those threats, including the U-Boats and Battleships of the Reichsmarine. Not to mention the fleets which could be launched from the European coasts.

The Führer had maintained his vow of silence towards these aggressors, and would only speak with his allies in a method not yet known to the enemy. However, he had sent a message to his friends thanking them for their support.

In his own mind though, as the Reich and Elephantum had never had any disagreements, this was a betrayal on the part of the Elephantis, and they too would pay in blood...

Hawdawg

18-08-2005, 13:18

OOC: Glad to see you back NG. My ORBAT for troops in my holdings will be coming shortly, probably later tonight.

IC:

We interrupt this episode of Mork & Mindy to bring you this special report:

Good evening as many have probably heard recent events in the world have begun to effect our beloved Holy Republic. I felt compelled as your Prime Minister to come forward tonight and explain some of the things happening to my people. Several of our allies have been threatened and will soon be attacked by a large number of anti-freedom nations. We won't stand for this naked aggression and have deployed troops to assist our neighbors in there time of need. These decisions don't come without costs and I fully expect repercussions for our actions. Hawdawg Lybia will most likely bear the brunt of the first attacks. To all the citizens in Al Jawf, prepare yourselfs for war. Support the local divisions in whatever capacity you can. Help them prepare defensive positions to repel the barbarian hordes that soon will come. A new day is dawning, one in which we must fight to preserve our way of life. I have faith in you, the people of Hawdawg. Through your resilency we will repel any threat from our lands in the matter we have dealt with so many enemies before. Let every man woman and child in our Kingdom come forth to assist us with this noble cause. I am declaring Martial Law in Hawdawg Lybia as of this moment, blackout rules are in effect along with Fuel rationing. We must conserve what is in country to maintain our Combat Effectiveness. May god have mercy on the enemies of the state, they have awakened a sleeping Thor that will crush them with a hammer of truth and judgement for attacking our way of life.

-Josey Wales, Prime Minister

End Feed.

Layarteb

18-08-2005, 14:22

The rhetoric on all sides had increased significantly. The Emperor knew that war was coming and he had to act. The Joint Chiefs and his Cabinet unanimously agreed, "Raise REDCON to 2." Reluctantly, he did and now the ILM was on REDCON 2 status, which meant, "Slightly less than maximum readiness." Patrols were double that before they were placed on REDCON 3. Heavy, long-range bombers were up in the air, on constant patrol. Many of them carried nuclear weapons, just incase. ABM and other air defense sites around the Empire were put on high alert and anything launched with a course towards the Empire would be considered hostile and fire returned, in the same form.

Throughout the Atlantic Ocean, all patrols were up heavy and both the Azores and Bermuda were on full alert. Attack submarines were patrolling multiple sectors, mainly the ingress ones: Gibraltar, the English Channel, the North Sea, Iceland, Ireland, and others. Submarines were on their way to the Indian Ocean and the Arabian Sea. Submarines would even be going into the Mediterranean. Boomers were out as well, keeping in the ocean deeps of the Atlantic, Pacific, Indian, and Arctic Oceans.

Fighter patrols were up as well, protecting the borders, maintaining a constant survelliance no less than 24nm from their borders. The North Sea, Norwegian Sea, and Atlantic Ocean were under constant patrol of fighters and maritime patrol aircraft.

Secret IC to Hawdawg

The Empire requests Hawdawg to allow attack submarines passage through Gibraltar to the Mediterranean for operations against Rome and TLS.

Secret IC to Coalition

The Empire is at REDCON 2. We have long-range, heavy bomber patrols and submarine patrols at full alert.

Hawdawg

18-08-2005, 23:24

Secret IC to Layarteb

Access granted, keep in mind we will be closing the Straits at some point. Any assistance in the Med. is appreciated. The 9th Fleet is steaming towards the Straits ourselves. We will preposition the Fleet off the coast of Lybia as a front line defense from Coastal invasion. Perhaps we can keep the TLS Navy bottled up in Carthage.

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P-3C Orion Patrols scoured the Med. Sea launching from Hawdawg Airfields. A close watch was placed on Rome and TLS ship movements. Any potential hostiles were course plotted, weapons notes made, and status recorded if they were spotted in the Reconassiance Patrol.

The Lightning Star

19-08-2005, 00:40

Offical Statement by the Carthaginian Suffete
After much deliberation in the Suffete and among the leaders of Carthage, we have decided to accept the Free Republic of Poland into our union. As of now, a state of war exists between Coalition forces and the Alliance.

Offical Statement by Caliph Rakshi
Followers of Allah, I have always preached peace instead of war. However, it is time that we stand up for the rights of our brothers. Although the Poles may not be Muslims, they are Catholic, and are followers of the same god as us. In Cottish Egypt, the tyrannical forces of Cotland have oppressed our fellow Muslims long enough, even going so far as slaughtering women and children. Against these armies of Shaitan, it may seem that we cannot win. However, our divine armies shall sweep the enemies of humanity away, and establish a new world order, where all humans are free. As of now, I declare a holy Jihad against the Coalition. The armies of Shaitan shall feel the might of righteousness!

Allahu Akbar!

OOC: NG! j00 LIVE!

The Lightning Star

19-08-2005, 00:54

The Mediterranean

Admiral Ishmael looked over his map of the Gibraltar area. He didn't doubt that his forces could take the North Germanian fortress and secure a passage through, but the immense cost of such an operation was frightening. The Coalition would obviously try to block his navy in the mediterranean, where all it could do was attack Spain, France, Egypt, and any other coalition countries around the mediterranean. Of course, that was what he was going to do anyways, but it would be better if the Coalition didn't know that just quite yet. The Indian Ocean Fleet would take care of the rest.

He turned his eyes to another map, this one of the western mediterranean. He looked around for the perfect place to attack, and found it. The Balearic Islands were ripe for the taking. He did not wish to assault the North Germanian Stronghold of Mallorca(OOC: The Biggest and most populated of the Islands, which would obviously be the best defended), but the smaller Islands of Formentera, Ibiza, and Menorca would suffice for now. He also did no doubt that his navy could easily crush any North Germanian navy sent his way, but he did think once the battle moved to land, it was much more uncertain. The North Germanian soldiers were very well trained, and he hoped his men would be enough. The Carthaginian Army did employ Balearic Snipers, even though the Balearic Islands hadn't been under Carthaginain control in many a year.

He told his fleet to set full sail for the Balearic Islands, but he sent subs and sub-hunters to patrol the waters near Gibraltar. Back at shore, 300 Cruise Missiles were launched at various military positions on the Islands. It probably wouldn't do much, but at least it got the war started.

Varsola

19-08-2005, 00:59

Fancy the Falklands? No way in monkey hell there will be anyone more than a regiment of soldiers there. Or would you rather have some more ice? Messa doubts that anyone will be at 100% efficency in Antarctica after the war down there, which promises to be quite a spectacle.

OOC:I know this thread concerns Varsola not at all, but thanks for the idea! Yelm might not fancy the Falklands, but I do!

The Lightning Star

19-08-2005, 01:20

BTW, here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Balearic.png) is a map of the Islands.

The Lightning Star

19-08-2005, 01:21

OOC:I know this thread concerns Varsola not at all, but thanks for the idea! Yelm might not fancy the Falklands, but I do!

Gosh darnit :D

Note to self: Send forces to falklands :p

Hawdawg

19-08-2005, 02:44

To the Carthaginian Suffete

We have never offended our Muslim bretheren, but it seems you are trying to force your ideals and lifestyle on the world. Involking a "Jihad" against us for aiding an ally in need, certainly won't score you any brownie points with the Prophet Muhammed. In fact, look in your Koran, no where does it say, attack people if they help a fellow man. I say your "Jihad" is a failed attempt to stir sympathy in the Muslim community for your cause. A cause bent on staking a claim in every continent, in every country in this world. If no one will stand against you but the Coalition, then so be it. WE will rid the world of the nuisance your regime has become, and replace it with a nation of "true believers" that harbor peace in there hearts towards all men regardless of there religious affiliation.

Signed,

Josey Wales
Prime Minister
Holy Republic of Hawdawg

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At 600 local time the secure fax line had a single word on it that sent the entire military installation in Hawdawg Lybia into overdrive. The word "SABRE" meant one thing, total war. Planes were manned and immediately launched. The first targets were the forward Radar Installations on the border. F-78KD's flew this mission armed with (4) AGM-88E's (AARGM) in addition to its normal compliment of Air-to-Air Ordinance. The first wave of 72 F-78KD's took off at 6:10 heading West for the TLS border. In front of the Air Superiority Fighters, (2) Air Cavalry units of some 100 RAH-66A's were harassing border checkpoints with rabid HellFire missile attacks.

The first place of attack was Azawar Border CheckPoint. This installation on the TLS/Hawdawg border overlooked the desolate "Spice Road" of the Southern Sahara. As the Air Cavalry approached numerous targets of opportunity became available. "Pickles Hot" was the cry as volley after volley tore into ground targets on the TLS side of the Border. Wave after wave of HellFire Missiles rain steel and death down on the enemy below.

6:45 The first wave of F-78KD Straken Sokol's bore down on the Radar installations in TLS, skimming the floor of the desert to avoid detection. If a Radar tried to lock on the Fighters, the EF-111A Raven Support Planes would render them useless. The first picket of these installations was within 15 miles of the border and they were situated high on the Dunes to allow for maximum penetration into Hawdawg territory. This would prove fatal for these listening posts. Systematically the F-78KD's popped up to 500 feet ID'ed a RADAR target fired the AGM-88E and forgot about it. This cycle of fire and forget against the forward picket radar stations continued up and down the border of TLS and Hawdawg Libya.

Air Lift Squadrons where activated and predetermined ammunition and supply stations were established close the the TLS Border for the forward teams taking up defensive positions. Simultaneously Air Lift Squadrons were amassing ammunition and supplies close to Cottish Egypt, for a secondary line of defense.

Three Armored Divisions supported by Five Lt. Mechanized Infantry Divisions pulled up stakes and established a lonely perimeter against the enemy that was sure to come from the West. A second group of two Desert Warfare-Trained Mountain Divisions prepared to take the Fight into TLS Territory. With the successful intellegence raids under there belts, they were ready to step into the actual combat role in this war.
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OOC: Here is what I have in Libya and Gibraltar at the moment.

Gibraltar
Army
(1) Mountain
(1) Combat Engineer
Air Force
(2) Air Superiority Wings
(2) Ground Attack Wings
(1) Air Cavalry Wing
(1) Patrol and Recon Wing

Libya
Army
(5) Armored
(5) Lt. Armored
(5) Mechanized Infantry
(5) Lt. Mechanized Infantry
(2) Mountain Divisions (Desert Training)
(2) Combat Engineer
Air Force
(10) Air Superiority Fighter Wings
(15) Ground Attack Wings
(5) Conventional Bomber Wings
(10) Air Cavalry Wings
(2) Refueling Wings
(4) Support Wings
(4) Airlift Wings
(2) Fleet and Logistics Wings
(2) Patrol and Recon Wings
Navy
9th Fleet, in route to Libya via Gibraltar.
(2) Nicholas Kerensky Class Carriers

RomeW

19-08-2005, 08:31

OOC: I probbably should have said this earlier, but I should mention that I've only secretly pledged my support for Carthage, meaning for all intents and purposes, ICly I am neutral.

Source:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9364207&postcount=26

I should also mention my nation- which has been like that for a while now- is an alliance and not a single nation.

(IC Post coming)

RomeW

19-08-2005, 09:33

IC Post:

******Official Communique From The Union******

While we are saddened that the situation has escalated to war, we are still hopeful that North Germania, Carthage and their respective allies will stand down their arms and offer the chance to resolve this matter peacefully. The Polish people must not be used as pawns in a giant international shell game.

Signed,
Prefect Cornelius Marcus of the Union of Roman States
Dated this August 19, MMV

OOC Note: Must cut this short. Too late at night. Anyway, if I do go to war now it will just be the Republic of Ravenna and NOT the whole Union.

Layarteb

19-08-2005, 14:54

The missile strike was recorded from the Azores. It's long-range radars and satellite uplink ability allowed them to observe the strike, which was going towards Spain or France, definitely north. Thus far nothing was coming towards any Layartebian military target, which kept REDCON at status 2. But this was the war. The opening shots were this, a large amount of bogeys heading towards the European continent.

In the night, a Layartebian Scythe and a Seawolf Flight III class submarine snuck into the Med after allowance was given by Hawdawg. Between the two of them, they carried 40 FIM-186A Wizard missiles for MANPAD use, if they were surfaced, 48 Mark 55 ADCAP II torpedoes, 2 UGM-176A-2 Tomahawk II nuclear cruise missiles, 2 UGM-176A-4 Tomahawk II nuclear cruise missiles, 22 UGM-176B Tomahawk II anti-ship cruise missiles, 10 UGM-180H Harpoon II anti-ship missiles, 20 UGM-193B Relic anti-ship missiles, 12 UGM-198A Stallion anti-ship missiles, 6 UGM-198B Stallion cruise missiles, and 14 UGM-198C Stallion anti-submarine missiles. The four nuclear missiles were just options and not likely for them to be used.

Maritime patrol craft in the North Atlantic were now on the highest alert possible. They were flying continuous patrol with surface ships doing the same and submarines doing the same as well. Given the first shots of the war having been fired, it was almost imminent now that Layartebian bombers from the mainland, Iceland, or Ireland would be flying down to Carthage in Algeria or across the globe to India and launching strikes. It was just a matter of time...

Elephantum

19-08-2005, 16:17

All across the nation, people were meeting and preparing for war. Whether it was in the gleaming metropolis of Dubai, the cinderblock shantytowns of India, or small tribal villages in Arabia, people were busy. While heads of households met to discuss plans, the rest of the family began preparations. Most kept televisions or radios on as they worked. The stations played a combination of patriotic war hymns and speeches from government officials talking about ideal preparations.

Most families stocked up on non perishable food, kept stores of water and medical supplies, and those with weapons, both ranged and close combat (Elephantis have a thing for close combat weapons), made sure they worked, polished them, and bought ammunition. Many neighborhoods began making a communal bunker in one person's property, in case the war reached home.

Other protections were not very tactical, but worked psychologically. Darkening houses at night, encouraging people to stay inside from sundown to dawn, and other such measures were outdated, and probably would not help if attacked. If the public felt safe however, they would more likely be safe.

Also of note is the fact that many printing companies, whether they printed newspapers, books, or magazines, began designing propaganda leaflets for sale to the government. Some were intended to remain in the nation, while others were to be dropped into enemy territory.

While the rest of the country was busy buying bricks and mortar, New Manama was moving. The largest Elephanti settlement on Antarctica, it would be a target, especially with most of the Antarctican military there. As most habitations were special mobile trailers designed for extreme temperatures, all civilian vehicles moved to an undisclosed location, where they tried to disguise the vehicles by piling snow on top. Satellites would most likely spot the encampment, but a soldier on the ground, or pilot in the sky, for example, may not notice it.

After moving, most civilian women and children under 16 left on helicopters for ships that would take them to India. Some women with special skills, like doctors and technicians, decided to remain at the camp.

Every military facility in the country was full of activity, as troops began moving. Troop movements and overviews are as follows (ooc- see my next post):

Elephantum

19-08-2005, 17:20

Elephanti Military movements

Unless otherwise noted, an Elephanti soldier has combat fatigues (mainly desert, some woodland and winter schemes in India and Antarctica respectively) , an XM-8, body armor, helmet, goggles, etc. along with a close combat weapon.

CLOSE COMBAT WEAPONS
Close combat is a favorite sport and activity for Elephantis, and soldiers carry close combat weapons in battle. A simple knife is not enough for most, who use axes, rapiers, scimitars, or other swords for the most part. Some, however, use more exotic weapons, like pikes, shaolin spades, morning stars, hand and a half (bastard) swords, or other weapons. Obviously some kinds of troops will not carry certain weapons (having a 16 foot long pike strapped to your back when you try to jump out of an airplane is not good), but nearly all have something they are trained to defend themselves with.

Movement in India
The following units are moving toward the Hawdawgian Naval base in Southern india:

Air Force

2nd Lakshadweep Combat Wing
25xA-10A Thunderbolt II
5xAC-130H Specter
15xAC-130U Spooky
15xEF-111A Raven
20xF-117A Nighthawk
20xF-35A JSF
20xF-4E Phantom II
20xF-14A Tomcat
20xF-15C Eagle
20xF-15E Strike Eagle
20xF/A-18C Hornet
20xF/A 22A Raptor

1st Calicut Bombing Wing
25xB-1B Lancer
15xB-2A Spirit
50xB-52H Stratofortress
5xFB-22A Manta

1st Hyderabad Cargo Wing (delivering 20th+21st Airdrop divisions, along with propaganda and supplies)
125x Boeing 747-400
5xC-2A Greyhound
15xC-5B Galaxy
50xC-130H Hercules
25xC-130J Hercules
10xC-135 Stratolifter
15xC-141A Starlifter

Helicopter Corps

1,000xAH-64 Apache
750xAH-1W Cobra
2,000xCH-47 Chinook (carrying 10th and 11th Marine+supplies)
500xUH-60 blackhawk

ARMY

10th Marine-transported by air (see above)
11th Marine-transported by air (see above)

each marine division consists of:
Soldiers:6,700 Combat, 14,300 Logistical Support
64 M1A2
372 M2A3 Bradley IFV
250 AAVP7A1
108 M777 Towed
45 M247 Sergeant York
18 M163 Vulcan
54 M1128 Stryker CV
18 PAC-3 Missile Systems
27 MIM-23 HawkB SAM
9 AVLB (M60 Chassis)
27 Combat Engineer Tractors
M728 Combat Engineer Tank
2000 HMMWV (400 equipped with M2 .50 MG, 200 Avenger, and 250 TOW II equipt)
1200 Various Trucks
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20th Airdrop-transported by air (see above)
21st Airdrop-transported by air (see above)

each airdrop unit consists of:
Soldiers:6,400 Combat, 14,600 Logistical Support
128 M-8 Thunderbolt Light Airdrop tank
64 M1128 Stryker MGS
204 M1128 Stryker ICV
108 M777 Towed
45 M247 Sergeant York
18 M163 Vulcan
54 M1128 Stryker CV
27 MIM-23 HawkB SAM
9 AVLB (M60 Chassis)
27 Combat Engineer Tractors
M728 Combat Engineer Tank
2000 HMMWV (400 equipped with M2 .50 MG, 200 Avenger, and 250 TOW II equipt)
1200 Various Trucks
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18th Peacekeeping
19th Peacekeeping
20th Peacekeeping

Each Peacekeeping division consists of:
204 M2A3 Bradley IFV
486 Stryker ICV
64 Stingray Light Battle Tank
108 M121 MC
45 M247 Sergeant York
18 M163 Vulcan
54 M1128 Stryker CV
9 AVLB (M60 Chassis)
27 Combat Engineer Tractors
M728 Combat Engineer Tank
2000 HMMWV (400 equipped with M2 .50 MG, 200 Avenger, and 250 TOW II equipt)
1200 Various Trucks
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15th Armored
16th Armored

Each division consists of:
Soldiers:5,430 combat soldiers, 15,570 Logistics Support
320 M1A2 Main Battle Tank
405 M2A3 Bradley IFV
215 M113A2 APC
81 M109A6 Paladin
27 M270 MRLS
45 M247 Sergeant York
18 M163 Vulcan
54 M1128 Stryker CV
18 PAC-3 Missile Systems
27 MIM-23 HawkB SAM
9 AVLB (M60 Chassis)
27 Combat Engineer Tractors
M728 Combat Engineer Tank
2000 HMMWV (400 equipped with M2 .50 MG, 200 Avenger, and 250 TOW II equipt)
1200 Various Trucks

NAVY
1st Lakshadweep Ballistic Submarine Group
2nd Lakshadweep Ballistic Submarine Group

Each Consists of:
5xTyphoon Class Fleet Ballistic Submarine
-42 various missiles
5xOhio Class Fleet Ballistic Sub
-24 Various Missiles

none have nuclear weapons on board

2nd Lakshadweep Assault Group
3rd Lakshadweep Assault Group

each consists of:
1xWasp Class
-12 AV-8B+ Harrier II
-4x AH-1W Super Cobra
-4x CH-53E Sea Stallion
-2x UH-1N Huey
1xInvincible Class
-9 Sea Harrier FRS Mk2
-9 Westland Sea King HAS 6
-3 Westland Sea King AEW Mk2
2xArsenal Class
-Seahawk
2xLCAC
4xLCU-2000
2xSan Antonio Class
-2 CH-53s
3xSpruance Class
-2 SH-60F LAMPS Seahawk
5xType 22 Broadsword Class
-2 Lynx
-1 Sea King

Cotland

19-08-2005, 19:55

Defense District Egypt Command Center, somewhere deep below Cairo
02.53 AM

The large command center was buzzing with activity. The first shots of the war against the Arab nations had been fired, and now the shit would really hit the fan. The commander of the 2nd Army, General Driman, looked over the situation map. This was going to be a costly war. One that might eventually force the Emperor to ask Parliament to reinstate the draft. Just across the border to Israel, the Templars had joined the war on the wrong side.

That would be a costly mistake. There were already an entire corps, the XXth, on the border with Israel. The XXth Corps consisted of 2 Armored Divisions and 4 Mechanized Infantry Divisions, supported by a Combat Engineer Brigade. This was a really hard fighting force, equipped with M2026A1 Imperator MBTs and M2027A1 Viking IFVs. The soldiers in that unit was extremely well equipped for combat, with the primary weapons of the tanks being 120mm ETC cannons, and the primary weapons for the IFVs were 30mm chainguns and TOW missiles.

For Air Defense, the Cottish autonomous province had plenty of air protection in the form of hundreds of MIM-104 Patriot and MIM-120 SLAMRAAM SAMs, as well as M2025 Devestator AAA sites. There were also a lot of older M163A3 EADS AAA units among the National Guard, which had been mobilized the day prior.

Right now, General Driman saw that the Suez was sufficiently defended, and planes from the many carriers around Egypt were in the air. The primary fighters for the carriers were the F-22N Sea Raptors, the navalized version of the F-22B. The F-22Bs belonging to the Air Force were also up and about, laden heavily with missiles. The Carthaginian Air Force would be a tough adversary, but the Cots relied on their many fighters and SAM sites.

"We should launch missiles against Meccah!" Admiral Irge cried out in despair. "That ought to show them not to mess with Cotland!"

"And risk getting the entire muslim world, including our own citizens here in Egypt on our throaths?!? Are you mad?!?" Driman replied in a calm voice while he looked down on the map again. Irge was a short-tempered man, but in command of the naval forces in Egypt. That command included command of ships from both the Atlantic and Pacific Commands, depending on where the ships were. The ships in question were mightly designs. Universe and Nimitz class carriers, Ragnarok class battleships, Kubler class cruisers, Devlin and Rothsky class destroyers and Bergen class frigates, just to mention a few of the famous classes of ships under his direct command. Driman looked down at the map for what seemed an eternity before he spoke again.

"Send a cruise missile strike against Tel Aviv and Haifa. Send another one against any Carthaginian targets within reach. Preferably against army units, but any target goes. Just try to avoid collateral damage. Give the XXth Corps orders to proceed towards Gaza and Beersheba. Once we take those, we can pose a serious threath to Jerusalem and perhaps force the Templars out of this war. Order the XVIth Corps (OOC: same TO&E as the XXth Corps) to assume the positions of the XXth and prepare to defend against any counter-attack. I want the XXXth Corps (OOC: 4 Light Infantry Divisions, 1 Medical Brigade and 1 LAV Engineer Brigade) to defend the Suez as planned, while the rest remain around and protect the other areas. Also, have the Marines disembark and let them join us in our defense of Egypt. New orders for the fighters: Fire at will against any enemy target! I'm taking Egypt to BERSTAT-1."

BERSTAT-1, or BERedskapsSTATus-1 (Readyness-status-1) meant that the Empire had gone to war. Martial law was declared, the National Guard were mobilized and fully activated, and the armed forces were at max readiness. This status had only been activated once before, and that was when Cotland last fought Carthaginians, then on Sicily.

Five minutes after the order had been given, it had flown through the chain of command and to the two B-9A Sphinx bombers that were flying in formation 420 kilometers from the Israeli shores. They were both laden with 20 AGM-86 CALCM (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/agm-86c.htm)s each, and now they were trained on Tel Aviv and Haifa, respectively. Both were strategic cities, and if the Cots could destroy the military facilities there, then they would have achieved a tactical victory. Hopefully, the first of many.

On the other side of the Suez, four Devlin class destroyers were ordered to fire a total of 80 RGM-109 Tactical Tomahawks at the enemy positions, primarily in Saudi Arabia, but nowhere near Meccah or Medina. This was done, and within ten minutes, the 80 missiles were flying low and fast towards Saudi Arabia.

At 04.00, the M2026 Imperators and M2027 Vikings of the 39th Armored Division started rolling across the Templar border near Kahn Yunus, supported by a fierce artillery barrage from the M2001 Crusader self-propelled artillery. Some rockets from the M270A2 MLRS launchers were also fired at the Templar border protection units. Any enemy position in sight would get at least one 120 mm projective from the ETC cannon on the M2026s, or several 30 mm projectiles from the Bushmaster II canons on the M2027s.

Elephantum

19-08-2005, 20:10

Military Movements (secret IC)

The Elephanti Military Intelligence Command is dispatching the 1st Amman Recon Wing to conduct intellligence gathering missions over the Sinai and the coast of Egypt in and Cottish territory, to gather information about military capabilities. The 1st Riyadh Recon Wing will conduct a similar mission over Oman, and the 1st Dubai Recon Wing will run missions over the Munsandam Peninsula, the Persian/Arabian Gulf, and the Gulf of Oman The pilots, both in the military facilities, (UAVs) and in the air, are under orders not to engage any enemy targets unless fired upon. Any information obtained will be sent to Ravenna, New Delhi, Jerusalem/the Vatican (ooc-dont know which one's your capital), and any other country that requires the information gathered.

Each Recon Wing consists of the following

25xRQ-4A Global Hawk
50xMQ-9A PredatorB
15xU-2R Dragon Lady

The U-2s operate in loose trios, staying out of sight, but close enough to respond if needed. The UAVs operate alone.

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ooc-Dawg, let me know if anything is wrong with this below

The Battle for India (begins at 3:00 PM local)

Planes took off in waves from Lakshadweep, Calicut, and Hyderabad. Leading the approach in over the water (from Lakshadweep), were the Thunderbolts, divided into groups of five. With their 30mm nose cannon ready, and anti-armor missiles at the ready, they prepared to attack the ships in port.

The Ravens, jammers at the ready, came in next, escorted by the Phantoms, equipped with multi barrel cannons and nine anti-air missiles apiece (4 under fuselage, 1 centerline, 2 under each wing). Hopefully, they would ward off any Hawdawgian fighters before the vulnerable bombers and cargo planes came in.

The Eagles and Strike Eagles swung over India, ready to guard the paratroopers from Hyderabad, who were closing in on the base.

The rest of the Lakshadweep aircraft remained on the airfield, ready to move if reinforcements were needed.

As the Thunderbolts were closing in, the twenty submarines surfaced, and launched missiles at the facility. Radar towers, communications depots, and supply dumps were the primary targets, but one sent a missile hurlting towards a mess hall.

The carriers (Wasps and Invincibles) at sea launched their craft, which sped off towards the base, preparing for an attack run on the harbor, while the escorts cautiously scanned the waters, and waited for something to try and leave the port. They had not detected anything in the nearby vicinity, but perhaps they missed something...

The last aircraft to come in were the bombers. Twenty-five B-52s, backed up by 10 Lancers, came in, bombs waiting to be dropped. With a combined total of over 525 tons of bombs (528.75 tons), they would be a hammer to smash the Hawdawgian "nut."

The Helicopter Corps escorted the Peacekeepers and Armored Divisions on the approach to the base. Thanks to the money the lease had generated, this was one of the few areas of India that had developed a "suburban" feel. The money had turned it from disease ridden villages to pristine towns.

http://thinkpage.net/zkorb/extras/suburbs.jpg

A neighborhood not far from the base

The green lawns and sprinkler systems were slightly damaged by the massive columns moving through the streets. Many tricycles or garbage barrels lost battles against battle tanks, but the people did not complain. They knew the same people who paid for the schools their children attended and the roads they drove on were now willing to destroy them.

Layarteb

19-08-2005, 20:21

OOC: Just to let you guys know that as of right now, North Germania is in transit for the final trip from Alabama to New Orleans. He'll be back in maybe 10 days or so when he gets an internet connection so he asked me to put him on Decree 13 for the time being, until he returns. He will be back and ready to fight and was unable to log onto NS because he was not at his home computer because that service is cancelled and all of his stuff is packed up.

Elephantum

19-08-2005, 20:43

The first UAVs had sent reports in, and Cotland appeared to be ready to launch an all out assault on Israel. Israel was too important, politically, tactically, and religiously, to let it fall into Cottish hands.

A comminique was sent to the Templars. It said:

We have intel suggesting Cottish attack on Israel. Support is available within 24 hours. Troops can reach Elat, Yotvata, Zin, Zefa, Jericho, and Bethlehem before morning if we move now. Please respond rapidly.

Elephantum Military Council

A map of the Israel and immediate surroundings
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/middle_east_and_asia/israel_pol01.jpg

The Elephantis sprung into action. The 10th Engineering Division began Al Aqabah in Southern Jordan, while the 22nd began preparing Amman for attack. Four Infantry Divisions, one mountain division, and a peacekeeping division moved to the Israeli border, waiting for the order to cross. The 65th Infantry was to move on Elat, the 66th on Yotvata, the 67th to Jericho, and the 68th to Bethlehem. The Peacekeepers would move to Zin, and Zefa would be covered by the mountain troops. While there was no naval presence in the Red Sea, increased patrols were set up. P-3 Orions and S-3 Vikings kept watch, Harpoon missiles at the ready. Recon groups were still reporting in, and Command was debating sending aircraft, and possibly the 16th Airdrop, on combat missions in the Sinai. AWACS and JSTARS were in the air, watching carefully.

Pyschotika

19-08-2005, 21:43

Osaka, Japan

The assimiliation of the city was surprisingly fast. The Rebellion had made there message clear, and the Japanese Empire was to break out into Civil War.

The Rebels had taken there victory quite too seriously. They had made there move some days before the defences were finally heightened to the highest. Almost all of the Rebel forces were partying in joy as verry little stayed on guard duty, which would innevitably cost them many lives.

Outside of Osaka

The Emperor had issued a secret operation the night before. In the middle of preparing defences around continental Japan and other territories, the Emperor had sent out a power much more stronger then the one sent to Europe. The Emperor was not ready to joke around and play with politics, he was extremely 'pissed'. He wasn't going to go light on the Rebellion, he had a rough idea what they could have done to the denizens of Osaka. ( I sugar coated what they did because I didn't have time, but they were a lot meaner then the Polish Rebellion ) A number of 120,000 ( 120.000 ) were to be used to hunt down every last Rebel in the city of Osaka, but only 20 would be used innitially. They were to evicerate as many of the Rebel guards as possible, and once an entry way was secured, a bulk of 5,000 would be inserted, and the other 115,000 would be positioned outside of the city and would seek down any Rebels that may try and escape.

And thus Operation Clean-up began. The 20, chosen for being Osakan boorn, crept into the city through many of its unguarded positions. After getting in, it wasn't too easy to begin the killing spree. The exact detail of the way the twenty would eliminate the Rebel guards were to be kept disclosed, but many could say that it was tough for many of there heads to hold onto the body after one of the twenty were done with them. There had been a delay in telling the 5,000 to enter the city, which caused a scare. But the reason to that was many were curious to sweep by there family houses. What most found was unpleasant. The bodies have been left in most of the houses, maimed and bruised and with most of them with slits on there throats. Now the Rebels were not going to enjoy there party.

*poompf*

The flair gun was fired, and the 5,000 were invited into Osaka. With many Rebels drunk and fondling with women, it was easy for the clean-up to take place. It had only taken a few hours to finish the operation, but not because it was difficult, it was only because of the number of Rebels stationed in Osaka. A number of heads was taken into consideration, and there was just too many to count. There had been almost a quarter of a million Rebels, most undoubtedly Osakans turned against Japan. With only 50,000 of them found with weapons, it was no longer a wonder as to how it was easy for the elimination to take place. Everyone had been drunk, anyone who was smart enough to run away were later killed by the other 115,000, and verry little casualties were taken by the 5,020 that were inside of Osaka. But when the sun had risen, it was obvious that what the men of the 27th had done was not enough. Bodies of millions of Osakans were found, all maimed and cut up and shot. One could only imagine the slaughter. Now Japan was in a state of a deep and emotional Civil War.

These Rebels were unlike the Polish, they were monsters. They had already claimed millions of innocent Japanese lives, and had left Osaka with no choice but to be covered in blood....and to be lifeless.

Narroration

Although every single last life of the innitial Rebellion had been erased off the face of this Earth, more terrorism and Rebellions were being made. People were comming to relization that it was time for Democracy, and for an end to fall upon Imperialism. Civil War had been declared between the United Free People and the Empire of Japan. Only the people with-in Japan had turned, and there influence had not reached the Japanese Indonesia and Myanmar.

If one were to draw a map of which lands were on what side, it would appear to be as this:

http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/7609/japandivided1jt.jpg

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OOC: And no, only I am RPing the UFPJ and GEJ. You may RP influence, and I'm pretty sure the Alliance is not going to have a happy time to physically influence my Civil War for quiet awhile.

Anyways, this is just to make the whole War intense, not that it wasn't anyways lol. Anyways, just trying to have fun ^_^. Also, I don't have much to post because I have deployed my two cents into Europe, I have been at the highest DEFCON ( I forgot what I named mine ) minus the Nuclear Authorization, and I have already made it a mental note that I will be staging an operation in the Med. Sea with my two fleets already existing there.

So yea, I think I'm good for now.

The Lightning Star

19-08-2005, 22:29

OOC: Crap, Rome. The alliance is doomed!

IC:

The Grand Dukes Chambers

"WHAAAT?!?" yelled the Grand Duke as he read the reports coming in from the Carthaginian Intelligence Agency. He was furious as he read the news that Rome would probably not partake in the war after all, and if it did only Ravenna would probably fight. The Romans had pledged their support, and turned away! The great fight between Good and Evil, and the Romans had betrayed them. In a fit of rage, he cleared the reports from his desk with an angry swipe of his hand. Rome, the head of the confederacy, had pledged to free Poland from the North Germanian agressors. Their selfish nations were going to stand by and watch as the Alliance crumbled. In response to this news, he sent his reply to the Roman government.

Offical Statement by the Grand Duke
I am apalled that the Roman Govenment believes that this war is for anything but the Polish people. We have, time and time again, tried to negotiate with the Fourth Reich, and as you know each and every time they have ignored us. We offered them half of our treasury, and they still wouldn't accept. If your precious union retains any of the honor it once had, you will join us in our war for Poland and for freedom.

OOC: This may seem harsh, but you do realise that the Alliance was counting on your support, right? Our armies may be fine and dandy, but without you, this war is doomed.

And Hawdawg, do you think that I left my border with you unprotected?

Offical Reply to the Government of Hawdawg(OOC: This means it's a joint statemen)
You may not have offended us before, but your utter lack of knowledge of our religion has achieved just that. A Jihad does not mean we wish to conquer the world. Jihad means struggle. And we shall struggle against you. This Jihad is not religious, it is a Jihad for the dignity of the human spirit. No matter what you say, you can never take away the fact that God, in whatever form he may take for your people, would not support your allies. You are allied with slavedrivers and mass-murderers! You have no moral upper-hand, and if your Holy Republic knew what was right, it would fight for humanity, not against it.

Libya
Hawdawg may have attacked the forward outposts, but they could not withstand the behomoth that was about to storm across their lands. The mighty Carthaginian Airforce sent forth 1,000 Prithvi missiles to beat down enemy targets. Then, it sent off 1,500 of it's mighty airplanes to wipe out the enemy airforce. On the ground, 5 Armored, 10 Light Armored, 20 Mechanized, and 30 Light Mechanized Divisions of the Federal Reserves charged to invade Hawdawg. Although they had been blinded in many areas on the border, the countries vast satellite systems picked up enemy troop movements. The army would first wipe out those forces, then obliterate what remained of their defences.

OOC: Sorry this is...lacking. I gotta get off now ><

Hawdawg

20-08-2005, 00:25

OOC: Real quick

Elephantum: I don't use the base in your country anymore. I haven't had ships there in years. The base is still "technically" on the books because of the 99 year lease we signed. I only have Naval Bases in Papua New Guinea, Guinea Bassau, England, Norway, Fiji, and Sweden. But I have a simple way to resolve this.

TLS: I will respond accordingly to your attack, but I have to leave this instant to handle something else, I will post again tomorrow.

Everyone Involved: I think we should hold everything until North Germania can get back in the mix. After all, this war orginated from the actions his nation took in Poland.
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Posideon Naval Facility
Elephantum Territory

A small security detail looked in awe as the massive attack began on the abandoned military base. What the Indian Forces wanted with an abandoned base the detail didn't know, but one thing was for sure, they obliterated it.

Buildings exploded, hangars collapsed, and as the group retreated to the Main Complex Building, a large missile streaked into the second floor demolishing the entire structure, in less than 15 minutes the Base was rendered useless and the group in charge of its watch was dead, less one lonely NONCOM who survived the onslaught. So came the first Hawdawg casualities and POW of the war.

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RomeW

20-08-2005, 06:12

OOC: Crap, Rome. This may seem harsh, but you do realise that the Alliance was counting on your support, right? Our armies may be fine and dandy, but without you, this war is doomed.

OOC: Don't jump too far to conclusions. I was merely stating the truth- that technically speaking ICly I am neutral, because I've only declared my support to you in secret. That doesn't mean that I will not provide support. I just read all these IC reports about "preparing to attack me" when ICly the only person who should know what side I'm on is you.

However, I will state that I panicked last night and I am sorry. I WILL be in this war- and not just as Ravenna, though I should mention the Ravennan Army isn't something to sneeze at.

EDIT- IC Removed because of the current thread situation. So, right now, ICly I have not made *any* attacks or moves. This will be reposted when necessary.

The Lightning Star

20-08-2005, 13:38

OOC: Rome said I get to take over his forces while he's gone, which will be from now, to the 24th, and then from the 24th to the 2nd of september. Is this ok with you guys?

Cotland

20-08-2005, 13:48

Heaven 2 (E-3C Sentry AWACS)
Somewhere above the Suez Canal

The E-3C Sentry flew over the Suez Canal, some 40 kilometers north of Port Suez, watching the airspace over the Cottish autonomous province. The four pilots and navigators kept the modified Boeing 707 on a cruising altitude of 25 000 feet at the optimal cruising speed of 360 kilometers per hour. They had just refuelled from a KC-10B Extender, and now they watched the airspace. The newest modification to the software aboard the E-3 were the anti-stealth system. This was a classified system, able to detect objects the size of a gull, albeit at very close range. Only 100 nautical miles from the AWACS. In exchange, it could use the new datalink to uplink the data to the three F-16C Falcons that flew escort for it, or the twelve F-22B Raptors that flew on CAPs around the Suez.

Each of the F-22Bs were equipped with two AIM-9X Sidewinders and six AIM-120D AMRAAMs inside the weapons bays, enough for them to keep the stealth signature. They were also painted in a bluish grey tone that allowed them to blend in with the skies, thus reducing the risk of visual detection. In addition to the missiles, they could, if they got close enough, use their nose-fitted M61A2 Vulcan cannon, complete with 480 rounds.

Now, with the emerging war, the alert had been increased to maximum, and Egypt were under BERSTAT-1. That meant that all reserves were mobilized. Included in that mobilization were the 582nd Fighter Squadron, which consisted of 10 F-16C Fighting Falcon fighters, 2 F-16D Fighting Falcon fighters, 14 pilots and 200 mechanics. All of them were Egyptian, and they had served in the Air Force before they retired and entered the reservists. Now, they had learned that their country were under threath of invasion, something that had infuriated them. The squadron now stood ready on the tarmac of Grazah Air Force Station outside Darnietta, ready to be called in if something out of the ordinary was detected.

Back aboard the E-3C, a operator detected something strange. A small contact, not much larger than a gull. And then another one. And another one.

"Contact with possible stealth contacts, bearing 3-4-7, range 99 nautical miles." the operator said before alerting the F-22Bs.

"Blue flight, this is Heaven one. We've got a contact with something that we want you to check out. It looks like three contacts."

"Heaven two, this is Blue flight Blue one speaking. Copy that. Got a heading _

The two F-22B Raptor closest to the contacts turned north and climbed to 30 000 feet slowly, as to not create any visible sign. If it came to combat, the radar on the E-3C would illuminate the targets and guide the AMRAAMs in, leaving the F-22Bs undetected. Hopefully.

The crew on the AWACS took no chances and scrambled the 582nd Fighter Squadron as well. Within fifteen minutes, all twelve planes were airborne and ready, having broken into three formations of four .Each of the F-16s were loaded to the gills with two 370 gallon droptanks, two AIM-9X Sidewinders and four AIM-120D AMRAAMs underneath the wings, not to mention the M61A1 Vulcan cannon with 500 rounds in the nose. If there really were any enemies out there, they would have to pass the 582nd before they reached the Suez.

Elephantum

20-08-2005, 14:39

OOC-I think we should hold off operations against NG, but we can keep on bashing each other into little tiny bits.

Also, Hawdawg, you were still using the base in the World War so I assumed that you were still using it now. Oh well. Is one living POW alright?

IC

The annihilation of the naval base had been swift and next to nothing had been left standing. Hopefully this would show the world the might of the Elephanti military. Two members of the security detail were found alive amid the rubble, albeit severely wounded. They were airlifted to the military hospital in Madras. One died before arrival, but the other one is in stable condition and recovering.

The war had also claimed its first Elephantis that day. Two members of the 18th Peacekeeping were killed in a friendly fire incident, and another was killed by falling wreckage.

Awaiting a response from the Templars, the troops on the Israeli border waited. They could not cross without permission, or it would be viewed as an act of war.

Hawdawg

20-08-2005, 17:21

Occ: One POW is fine, I will adjust my story accordingly. My bad, I just realized my sigs had the old links on them, I updated to all my new stuff sorry for the confusion.

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In the Skies over Libya

The AWACS Patrols picked up something large on the screen. As the young operator called his supervisor over to his station, the Veteran Lt. new immediately what was going on. Frantic calls out to the Integrated forward MIM-23 Hawk, MIM-104 Patriot PAC-2 and PAC-3 Sites. The call was made to Al Jawf Theatre HQ and the local THAAD system was activated. All frontline F-78KD's armed with AIM-9M Sidewinders, AIM-120B ARMAAMs, and AIM-88E HARM's, AGM-65D Maverick's (six internal missile bays, 4 hard points on wings, yeah lots of ordinance) and the phenominal CFA-760D III 30mm ETC automatic cannon with the EMAS system climbed to combat altitude behind the frontline screen of Hawk and Patriot Batteries, some 960 fighters in all. A second wave of 160 F-78KD's stood in reserve to engage any threats that made it through the first umbrella.

As the wave of missiles approached the border the MIM-104 Patriot PAC-2 Missiles (Mach 5 speed) began to launch engaging targets well within TLS airspace, with a range of 140 miles the PAC-2 would handle the long range engagements. Soon the skies filled with explosions as the PAC-2 missiles found the incoming missiles. Devistating as these hits where, missiles continued to make it towards Hawdawg. The MIM-104 PAC-3 sites engaged all targets at 15 miles and began to destroy the incoming rounds. Even with this impressive AA umbrella missiles did make it through. Some fell on the Forward stations. As the battle report came in, 5 SAM sites had suffered Radar damage and 4 had lost power. 25 KIA's, but most importantly the damage was repairable. Further inland, 6 FireBases, and 4 Forward AirBases took damage as the missiles found there mark. Several Hangars and 2 Ammunition Dumps were destroyed, for a total of 20 KIA. A few missiles even made it as far as Al Jawf, but the THAAD system engaged them at different stages of approach and promptly brought all but five down. All five hit the downtown district, two penetrated the Town Lakes Mall, one hit the Central Bank, one hit the Al Jawf Mosque (was partially damaged with a nondirect THAAD hit), and one hit the Central Military Police Station, total dead 750 KIA noncombatants, 375 KIA combatants (Military Police).

The Frontline pilots waited patiently for the enemy fighters to engage. Some 1500 enemy planes lay over the horizon, as the first waves approached long range missiles were launched. The F-78KD pilots were sure of themselves nothing in the air could hang with the Soviet Bloc made variant. A two to one advantage for the TLS Air Force didn’t hardly seem fair………….

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Secret IC to Cotland

Be advised heavy fighting occuring on our border with TLS, currently engaging 1500 enemy fighters. Could use some Air assistance if available. Also would request a shift of AA to our border with you country. We are building a layered defense towards your border. If we are pushed back to Cottish Egypt we will form a defensive wall there. A large ground force is approaching as we speak. We have a MEF in the Med. and will either invade Carthage or flank the TLS ground forces when the time is right. Will keep you advised.

Field Commander
Richard Price
Lybia Operations
Hawdawg Taskforce Omega

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Hawdawg Headline News
(HNN)
Stockholm, Sweden

In a tragic turn of events today the Main Mosque in Al Jawf was struck by a TLS missile in a apparent attempt to destroy the fighting spirit of the Hawdawg Forces in Lybia, some 100 early worshipers were killed. With a majority of the Hawdawgian Force being Muslim, this has added fuel to the fire to defeat the wicked foe. International condemnation is expected for such treachery.

Layarteb

20-08-2005, 23:37

OOC: I posted above that NG is out and I think we should hold off all together since he is an integral part of bashing each other to bits as well. He was sort of involved in every campaign.

Hawdawg

21-08-2005, 00:13

OOC: I posted above that NG is out and I think we should hold off all together since he is an integral part of bashing each other to bits as well. He was sort of involved in every campaign.

And I agree, we should wait until ALL players can become involved. The scales will be more balanced that way. A tactical advantage lays with the side that has all people here versus the group that doesn't have everybody active.

-Hawdawg

[NS]Kreynoria

21-08-2005, 01:12

Um, I am sorry to members of the Alliance, especially you, TLS, but I was only secretly training and equipping Polish refugees as freedom fighters/terrorists. Anyway, I don't think I can manage against the Coalition forces, and I intend to keep my current regime. I may participate later, but for now my role remains training Polish terrorists. The national military alert level is at Orange, the highest peacetime alert. Forces are quietly being mobilized and defensive measures are being undertaken. An economic and diplomatic embargo against Cotland, North Germania, and Japan (but not Layarteb) has been declared, and the Kreynorian embassies in the said nations are being closed down and evacuated. Cottish, Germanian, and Japanese ships and aircraft in Kreynorian territorial sea and airspace will be immediately destroyed. Ships and aircraft of the said nations have 24 hours to leave Kreynorian territory. The embassies of the said nations are to be vacated within one week. All Cottish, Germanian, and Japanese citizens are to leave Kreynoria within 72 hours. Those that fail to comply are to be detained in interment camps.

The Lightning Star

21-08-2005, 03:59

OOC: NP, Krey.

And I've just realised something: This is thread is going to be so twisted, biased, and full of Propaganda :D. Might as well just call it "The Happy Propaganda Thread".

Elephantum

21-08-2005, 05:01

ooc-well the name would be easier to spell at least

But propaganda has been an Elephanti military standard since the Second Soviet War (EII WWI), where Arabia was bombarded with propaganda and humanitarian aid in an attempt to provoke him into striking. Now it's much like WWII, with war effort porpaganda as well as bombastic hate filled propaganda directed at other countries, the kind that talk about how horrible Cotland, NG, and Layarteb are.

NG will be back around the 30th then? Just as a note, after the 6th, my time online will be drastically reduced by school, but I assume thats the same for many of you.

Also, in case you didnt know, my defense sheet is horrendously out of date. I'll try to put up a better one soon, probably in my quasi-factbook (see sig)

Cotland

21-08-2005, 11:07

Secret IC to Cotland

Be advised heavy fighting occuring on our border with TLS, currently engaging 1500 enemy fighters. Could use some Air assistance if available. Also would request a shift of AA to our border with you country. We are building a layered defense towards your border. If we are pushed back to Cottish Egypt we will form a defensive wall there. A large ground force is approaching as we speak. We have a MEF in the Med. and will either invade Carthage or flank the TLS ground forces when the time is right. Will keep you advised.

Field Commander
Richard Price
Lybia Operations
Hawdawg Taskforce Omega

Equally Secret IC to Hawdawg

The air support will be sent to Hawdawg immediately, along with some SAM and AAA units. Hawdawgian forces will also be allowed to enter Egypt at their discresion. If it comes down to Lybia falling, they will hopefully be incorporated to the defenses of Egypt. We are looking at a growing threath from the east from Elephantum, a nation that we used to trust, but we will assist in any way we can.

General Driman
CO, Defense District Egypt

OOC: I also think that this should be put on hold untill NG comes back.

Rome West

21-08-2005, 11:11

OOC: EDITED- This will still be issued even without any action from me, because there were still some battles before the "halt" was ordered.

IC:

While the warlords waged on, the Roman Emperor had tricks of his own up his sleeve. He decided to send another message to the governments of Layarteb, North Germania and Cotland in the hopes that they could finally be convinced to resolve the matter diplomatically.

(OOC Note: this could be harsh)

It is with the saddest regret that we are going to war with your nations. For years we stood as siblings in arms, helping each other out unconditionally and being there in each other's time of need. Now, I can plainly see that goodwill means absolutely nothing to your nations.

To North Germania: We stood by unconditionally when Aequatio threatenned your lands with nuclear war. We offered millions in aid and even helped resolve the matter in your favour.

To Layarteb: We sent you millions in humanitarian aid to aid in the recovery of Ecuador in the wake of the Yelmish attacks. We even offered this aid unconditionally and with nothing expected in return.

To Cotland: We stood by you unconditionally when Carthaginian rebels attacked Masala. We sent our finest troops and our Air Force to face the threat and played a significant part in the successful defeat of those rebels. We have also been your faithful trading partners for many, many years.

To this we ask, is this how you repay us? By ignoring us when we call on you to help avert this crisis? Perhaps we were naive in thinking that nations who contort themselves like children were mature enough to behave as the civilized nations they claim to be. However, we are not the kind to hold a grude. Therefore, we will again offer you this: we can continue this shell game and come away as mere animals. Or we can end this and resolve this like men. The choice is yours.

Elephantum

21-08-2005, 17:55

The War Department has released information on the prisoner taken in the battle for Posiedon Naval Base. His condition has been stabilized, he is now in a coma at an undisclosed medical facility. His left arm was surgically amputated to control severe bleeding, and he may be permanentley paralyzed from the waist down. No personal information about the soldier has been released at this time. He will remain at the hospital unless he awakens, in which case he will be moved to a secure facility for questioning.

ooc-Since we can't really do anything important until the 30th, prisoner info and war preparations will be most of my posts until then.

Elephantum

29-08-2005, 14:15

NOTE-TKT has given permission to move into israel, and that will commence as soon as things get back to normal. This is just as much a reminder for me as a note for everyone else.

Perhaps we should clear up who has forces moving where, and what those forces consist of.

RomeW

30-08-2005, 04:32

EDIT- Removed IC- I have *not* made any IC moves at this point other than diplomacy.

Hawdawg

30-08-2005, 12:48

I am for a "fresh" start myself. Perhaps we could roll the situation back to preattack status? My logic is having to reread everything again when NG returns, I am afraid something will be overlooked and thus inaccuracies will develop. Yes I also agree that Force strengths need to be posted, at least in general terms (I have 10 armored divisions in X country). Does anyone think this is a good idea?

FYI: Its gonna take at least two weeks for them to get power restored in New Orleans. So we have alot of time to dog paddle here.

-Hawdawg

The Lightning Star

30-08-2005, 13:56

Celtayoshi

30-08-2005, 16:45

tag for later reply urging diplomacy...in the meantime,
I have 9 pages to read...

Elephantum

30-08-2005, 19:23

Ive heard as long as a month before they get power everywhere in Louisiana, and as the city is now flooding (the levees broke), we have no rush to get ready again. As a quick overview of what will/has happened in Elephantum:

-Mobilizing military, especially in Jordan, the Emirates, Arabia, and Antarctica (specifics to come later)
-Drowning the populace with bombadistic propaganda
-4 divisions are moving/preparing to move into Israel
-Recon missions are being/will be launched in Egypt and Oman
-Hawdawgian Posiedon Naval Base was destroyed, but I can un-destroy it, and have a less destructive attack (come in, demand surrender, possibly shoot a few people, instead of bombing it into last week)
-Angry Founding Mother insulted RC members, and threatened withdrawl from the Confederacy
-Flag Act passed banning Japanese, Germanian, Layartebian, Hawdawgian, and Cottish flags
-failed MESC embargo attempt against Coalition forces, although we are not trading with any of them unless the Coalition orders us to

Also, I would like to let everyone know one of my airbases in Teh Ninjian Ethiopia, will become the 1st Elephanti Overseas Military Hospital. The facility, near Mekele, is not a regular military facility, with only a guard of 1,000 Royal Guard, who protect the Sultans, monuments, and other facilities of importance. As it is a hospital, the Council of the Ten Sultans decided to defend it with a non military guard, albeit a well trained one. They did not want to have any active troops at the hospital, although being in a foriegn country and being at war with enemies who would not likely be above attacking a hospital, they were forced to. The only other garrison there is a force of cargo and utility helicopters for emergency rescue. Any allied planes are allowed to land there, if bringing wounded of any nationality. Enemy combatants will be treated, and once in a stable condition they will be sent to detention facilities in undisclosed locations. Allied combatants will be returned to either their unit or home nation, depending on how severe the injury was.

RomeW

30-08-2005, 23:59

I am also for a rollback to pre-attack status- especially because I really want to see if we can resolve this diplomatically this time.

The Lightning Star

01-09-2005, 02:42

I am also for a rollback to pre-attack status- especially because I really want to see if we can resolve this diplomatically this time.

Fat chance :D

Elephantum

01-09-2005, 04:18

Well, really, the only "attack" that actually occurred (Israel, Oman, and the other fronts not having any actual confrontation yet) was the annihilation of the Hawdawgian naval base in India. I suppose that from that point, it isnt to late to end the hostilities, with only minor casualties (a handful of Elephantis and most of the Hawdawg security detail), Poles and Carthaginians aside, the war hasn't really gone "hot" yet.

RomeW

01-09-2005, 05:10

Fat chance :D

How does that statement go? "Live by the sword, die by the sword." *smirk*

On a second front, I feel like singing a little John Lennon ("Give Peace A Chance") :D

The Lightning Star

01-09-2005, 12:32

How does that statement go? "Live by the sword, die by the sword." *smirk*

On a second front, I feel like singing a little John Lennon ("Give Peace A Chance") :D

But seriously. We offered him land, we offered him $40 trillion, we offered treaties, etc. What else can we offer?

Cotland

01-09-2005, 15:22

But seriously. We offered him land, we offered him $40 trillion, we offered treaties, etc. What else can we offer?
You could try to keep your nose out of his internal business...

RomeW

02-09-2005, 01:24

You could try to keep your nose out of his internal business...

I'm not sure that will get us what we want- regardless, I'm hopeful that North Germania can talk about this- I've asked a couple of his allies to help me out here, because maybe they can help bring a cooler head to the table and work out something where we're not blowing each other up- and that doesn't necessarily have to mean that NG has to give up any land: Poland could become an autonomous region, for example.

-------------------------Separate Note-------------------------

What's really frustrating for me is that I think NG is holding onto his lands a little too much. I know, I'm attached my lands too, but I've been flexible with what I have- NG is obssessed, and I'll admit I don't exactly find that fun, not just because national boundaries can never be static but also because this turns into a giant competition, and I don't like that. Now, I don't mean to rag on NG too much because he's got a lot more to deal with now, but I've felt that way about this war well before Katrina came around.

Elephantum

02-09-2005, 04:08

You could try to keep your nose out of his internal business...
As a side note, I kept my nose out of his internal buisiness, until the barn massacre. Murder and massacre are not looked highly on in Elephantum, and despite our various religious and ethnic groups, we have never had major incidents of hate crimes. Those that do occur are quickly ended and the leaders are punished. The Elephanti people believe in the right to live, whether you are Indian, Iraqi, or Polish. We felt obligated to help our allies and the Poles after pictures of the Germanian atrocities were released into the media by Carthaginian agents.

EDIT-As to Rome's second comment, I have certain lands (Bahrain, Southern India, Kuwait, UAE) I would really like to keep, but most of my nation I can accept being overrun, sold, or lost in other circumstances, though of course I would prefer to keep them.

Elephantum

04-09-2005, 15:11

Since Neuvo Rica is gone, and I have to integrate Iran and Afghanistan into Elephantum. Along with the military pullout of most of Antarctica, this means I have to reorganize and expand my military, which would be complicated if this goes hot. Perhaps one of us, I'll volunteer, should try to hold a peace conference and come to some sense of agreement.

The Lightning Star

04-09-2005, 15:48

I'm not sure that will get us what we want- regardless, I'm hopeful that North Germania can talk about this- I've asked a couple of his allies to help me out here, because maybe they can help bring a cooler head to the table and work out something where we're not blowing each other up- and that doesn't necessarily have to mean that NG has to give up any land: Poland could become an autonomous region, for example.

I tried the autonomous region thing already! I really did. I tried every way. He's obsessed with making Europe his playground, and he doesn't give a damn about the poor Polish farmers.

North Germania

04-09-2005, 16:05

You guys could've said that to me directly.

But for the sake of argument, my land claims in Europe are more complicated than I "just want to control it". It's actually just a small part of a "global" plot to control the World with certain other key players.

Honestly though, if you guys have complaints or problems with or about me, or how I play which are serious enough so that you feel a need or requirement to discuss them with other people, just tell them to my face. Feeling like certain people don't like you makes you not want to play the game with them at all.

Celtayoshi

04-09-2005, 18:22

Statement from the Premier of Celtayoshi regarding the Poland situation.

"The Allied States of Celtayoshi urges all nations involved in the dispute over the Eurpoean territory of Poland to find a peaceful solution to this problem. First of all, the territory is rightfully North Germanian, however, this is the modern world, and North Germania has a duty to ensure his citizens are well looked after and cared for by the state. Unless this is being severly neglected by North Germania we urge all sides to caution, and not undertake rash actions. We also do not wish for this situation to spill out into other areas of the world. Therefore, we ask all nations to come together and talk this situation through on neutral ground. Celtayoshi offers herself as a mediator in this dispute, and initially we seek to setup a meeting between certain national leaders in Celtayoshi, if there is interest in this proposal we will continue with this proposal. If not Celtayoshi will continue to work towards a peaceful end, however fruitless our actinos may prove."

Cotland

04-09-2005, 19:10

Statement from the Cottish Emperor

"I would like to join the Celtayoshian Premier in urging reason, and not rashness to prevail in order to prevent conflict. I will personally attend the peace conference if it is acceptable to hold said conference in Celtayoshi, and if it is not, then I would like to offer it to be held in Oslo, Norway. Either way, I hope that all parties can find it in them to at least try to talk about this before any conflict occur."

Hawdawg

04-09-2005, 19:37

Official Communique from Holy Republic of Hawdawg

"We are excited by the offer of a Peace Conference on the Polish issue. We would like to state the points made by our esteemed colleague from Celtayoshi. We hope these items can be discussed in a business-like manner and solved without the undue spilling of blood. I will be attending personally, making sure the interests/security issues related to my country are met."

Signed,

Josey Wales
Prime Minister
Holy Republic of Hawdawg

Celtayoshi

04-09-2005, 19:50

Messages to both the Empire of Cotland, and the Holy Republic of Hawdawg.

The Premier is pleased to see that our offer has been accpeted by your nation, and that there is still a good possibility for a peaceful settlement to this matter. We await further international reaction, before progressing to the next stage. Expect further communication soon by means of the Celtayoshi Embassy.

Yours Sincerly,
Ambassador J. Hughes (For Hawdawg)
Ambassador P. Nikea (For Cotland)

Elephantum

05-09-2005, 02:47

Official Statement from the Council of the Twelve Sultans
Royal Palace, Manama, Bahrain
Encryption Level- Teal
Date-09/04/2005
Security Level- General Alpha
Sender-Council of the Twelve Sultans
Recipient of Message-Cotland, Germania, TLS, Rome, Celtayoshi, Hawdawg, Japan, Layarteb, et al
Subject-Peace Conference
MESSAGE BEGINS

We would look forward to an attempt to come to an agreement over this situation. All sides, ourselves included have made rash choices, perhaps taking policy, protocol, or our ideals too far. We would prefer for the conference to be held on neutral ground in Celtayoshi, but we could also come to an agreement splitting the conference between Olso and a city on our side of the conflict, like Riyadh.

The Lightning Star

05-09-2005, 21:57

Offical Reply to Peace Talks
We would certainly be willing to go to the negotiation table. However, let it be known, that Carthage will stay at full alert throughout the entire conference. We will not initiate any attacks of any sorts, but we will not let down our guard either.

North Germania

06-09-2005, 01:34

Official Reply

Message To:Celtayoshi; Carthage; Cotland; Layarteb; Rome; Elephantum; Pyschotika; Hawdawg; Kreynoria; all other involved parties
Message From: Reichskanzler Heydrich Kübler
Subject: Peace Conference

"I have agreed to attend this proposed peace conference. As Celtayoshi, thus far, has proven to be a neutral player in this conflict, I prefer the meeting to be held in a city of Celtayoshi's choosing.

However, the fact that missiles were maliciously and purposefully fired at North Germanian land without reason is proof that there is little more talking I can do at this point. I have shown that the population of Poland was well cared for before the uprising, and that all civilians were treated as equally as native Germanians. Everyone was free to express themselves in music and the arts, so long as their art did not threaten the government. All food, clothing, entertainment, transportation, water, medical needs, and other such necessities were provided for the Polish people freely by the government, and have been since the territory of Poland surrendered itself to the Reich.

Voting is illegal in Germania, and any negative speech against the government is outlawed.

If these are reasons to fire missiles at lands under the umbrella of the Reich, and if these are reasons for several countries to threaten war against Germania, then I am not sure what I can say to pursuade them to peace.

-- Reichskanzler Heydrich Kübler"

IC:

Reich-Europa News...

With the Heer already on the highest state of alert, and a massive improvement of all beach and coastal defenses having already been completed, coupled with the massive defense structures of the islands connected to the Atlantic SOSUS, the 100 or so various types of cruise missiles fired at Germania by Carthage were destroyed before they could reach their various targets. However, it has proven that any aggressive action is clearly to come from Carthage, at least.

Peace talks were underway in Celtayoshi, but the Reich was nonetheless furious at this attack. The government had pinpointed Carthage and Rome to be the primary catalysts for the missile launches, with support coming to them from Elephantum, Kreynoria (OOC: I think), and other nations sympathetic to their cause.

The rebels in Poland were losing steam, so to speak, as power stations were turned off in the Districts in rebel control, food supplies were redirected to other parts of Germania, running water was cut off to all rebel Districts, all medical stations (i.e. hospitals and clinics) were closed and the workers relocated to Germanian-held areas (Note: all hospitals, as they are government-run, are run by Germans, Austrians, Danes, or Swiss citizens), and the Heer and OS having surounded the areas, allowed entry or exit in or out of the rebel areas to be impossible. Anything that was left in those Districts would now have to be rationed and divided. The Winter months were fast approaching, and without the large heating sources formerly provided by the government, all those loyal to the rebellion would find this time to be quite chilling. Refrigeration units that once kept perishable products cool warmed up, and those products began to rot. The garbage disposal system had been shut off, thus wiping out the chance of proper storage or destruction.

It was further assumed that, when the rebels were on the verge of starvation or death from illnesses or any other massive threat to their lives, that they would launch a final assault, in the form of a military strike [or as close to it as possible] against the Heer and the OS surrounding the Rebel Districts.

Furthermore, in light of the recent show of ability of Carthage and Rome to brainwash leaders of other nations to their side, and despite the massive and incredibly dense military presence in Europe, as well as the support of The October Alliance, Reichskanzler Kübler had decided, instead, to starve the rebels into capitulation, rather than launch any military retributions.

To balance the loss of agricultural goods no longer coming from Poland, all agricultural areas in Belarus, Ukraine, and other fertile soil-rich territories were given extra funding from the government, and additional farming position jobs opened for the populations of those respective territories. The extra food which would no longer be sent to the Rebel Districts in Poland was now being considered "excess sustinance", and was divided between Austria, Germany, Denmark, and the agriculturally rich territories to the East. Apparently by accident, the government has gained from these actions more support from several territories of Europe, and the rebellion in Poland has lost much favor and support that it once held in Germanian-Slavic territories.

The fate of Europe would now be decided at the Celtayoshi Peace Conference, rather than by a single decision from either the Coalition or Alliance.

Only the outcome of the peace conference would tell whether or not enemy armies would attempt to set their feet on the soils of Germania...

Layarteb

06-09-2005, 02:05

Official Response from The Empire

In light of this peace conference and despite the fact that the Empire has not gotten involved, directly, yet, in this conflict, we will attend. A representative will be sent with a security detail.

The Lightning Star

06-09-2005, 12:58

Celtayoshi

06-09-2005, 18:33

Message to all Nations who have accepted the Peace Talks.Except The Free Republic Poland

Celatyoshi thanks you for your acceptance of this peace conference. It is our wish that it should be held as quickly as possible. Hence the following nations are asked to send a senior delegate, and no more than five other delegates (Security staff, Personal Assistants etc will not be permitted into the conference room except to deliver messages, however, they will be allowed to view the meeting on monitors in other rooms, this is purely due to size limitations). Accomodation will be provided for the duration of the talks in Celtayoshi House. Diplomats are aksed to fly directly to Celtayoshi Diplomatic Airport in Ottawa. Security arrangements are as follows:
A Ring of Seel, to be protected by the military, Police and CYSIS will be created around the route taken by all delegations. Throughout the conference two Special Operations Divisions will be on active standby, a flight of CY-X2s will be constantly overhead, and the Ottawa Air Bubble patrolled. The army will be stationed within the grounds of Celtayoshi House, and all people entering and exiting will be checked (Diplomatic Security Staff will be asked to relinquish firearms while in the presence of other diplomats and the Premier of Celtayoshi.
Accomodation will be as follows:
Delegations will be staying in Celtayoshi House, the home of the Premier, as guests of the Premier. This is a public area, but for the conference areas of it will be totally sealed off. A night the corridors will be patrolled by uniformed policemen.

OOC: Will post a list of who is going later, really have to go now, also, will post a reply to the Free Polish Republic.

Celtayoshi

06-09-2005, 20:52

The following nations are attending / We would like to attend:

Celtayoshi
Carthage
Cotland
Layarteb
Rome
Elephantum
Pyschotika
Hawdawg
Kreynoria
North Germania

Any other nations must notify the Celtayoshi Embassy, or the Celtayoshi Foreign Office.

Statement to the Free Republic of Poland

The Allied States of Celtayoshi is currently holding the stance that the nation of The Free Republic of Poland does not exist. Therefore, normal policy dictates that we should decline your delegation. However, since essentially this quarrel is over your lands, and since we wish to avoid a similar situation to the Munich Conference of 1938, we will extend and offer of a seat at the conference to you, provided the current government of Poland, North Germania, agrees to allow a delegation to come.
Should they accept Celtayoshi will arrange all transport to and from Celtayoshi, and cover security and accomodation arrangements. If North Germania does not agree to this then we have no legal right to permit any representation of the Free Republic of Poland.

Pyschotika

06-09-2005, 21:55

OOC:

Update me please....what has happened since I last posted..>_>

RomeW

07-09-2005, 06:11

OOC:

North Germania- first off, I'd like to say I'm sorry if what I said came off too harsh. In defence of myself and The Lightning Star, the comments were said when you were away from the computer, but that's still no excuse to talk about you behind your back. For that, I apologize.

IC:

The Emperor jumped in his seat when heard the news of the peace conference. Finally, civilization returns to Earth II! he thought to himself, as he enjoyed his dinner. He then placed a call to the Celtayoshian Premier:

"Thank you for your help- it was greatly appreciated. I cannot say in words how grateful I am for your actions in this matter. Our nation will gladly attend."

(OOC: Celtayoshi, should our leaders attend considering they're already busy?)

Celtayoshi

07-09-2005, 16:01

OOC: Rome, Its in the same building, we might as well.

The Lightning Star

07-09-2005, 19:49

OOC: Errr, if you didn't notice, a while back Carthage accepted the Free Republic of Poland into it's union. So it's a tricky situation, you see. North Germania legally owns the land, but it is claimed by the Free Republic of Poland, and therefore Carthage.

Offical Response by the Free Republic of Poland, the Fifth Republic of Carthage
Although we have nothing against Celtayoshi, we ask you to take this into consideration. North Germania has already begun a Genocide against our people. They will not use arms as much, but they will use starvation(OOC: A la whats going on in Sudan) to wipe us out. Do you believe that such a government would allow us to send a delegate? You claim to wish to avert us not being heard, but that is what is going to happen: We will not be heard, for we will not be able to go.

But do not think we will not be represented. We have all pledged alleigance to the Federal Carthaginian Union of The Lightning Star, and they will fight for us if you will not let us come. But, like all other nations that have come and gone in the many years which Poland has stood, you will be remembered as a distant power who decides to overlook the Polish people.

Elephantum

07-09-2005, 20:19

Is it ok if the following members are present at the table?

Hiraz e-Mumman-Sultan of Bahrain, head of delegation, will represent Foreign Relations Department, Sultanates of Bahrain, Arabia, and Kuwait
Sharina e-Mumman-Sultaness of Qatar, will represent Sultanate of Qatar and Emirati Sultanate (UAE), and Elephanti delegations to Middle East Stability Coalition and Roman Confederacy
Nipuun Brahman-Sultan of India, will represent Sultanates of India and Antarctica, along with the Elephanti Military
Mohammed al-Shammar-Sultan of Kurdistan, representing Sultanates of Kurdistan and Iran, Health and Recreation Department.
Rasheed al-Tamwil-Sultan of Jordan, representing Sultanates of Iraq and Jordan, Commerce, Industry, and Trade Department, and central administration

Notes-Each Sultan will have a small staff not attending meetings if possible. This would consist of security details, advisers, secretaries, and representatives from the departments the Sultans are responsible for.

Secret IC Communication to the Free Republic of Poland
If your requests for attendance at this conference are denied, we would like to send Mumarth al-Thalith, the Sultan of Antarctica, to meet with senior leadership in an attempt to bring our nations into agreement on a plan. We wish to make sure our attempts at peace will not conflict with your goals.

Layarteb

07-09-2005, 21:05

On the tarmac of Layarteb City International Airport, the lone C-21B Learjet sat comfortably. It was nestled between a pair of F-22A Raptors, both carrying two six hundred gallon external fuel tanks. The Learjet was going to be taking the Layartebian delegate, the Governor of New York, to the peace convention on Poland, which would be in Ottawa. Going would be just the Governor of New York, three aides, and four security personnel, eight in total, the comfortable seating capacity of the Learjet. Overload capacity would put twenty people in the aircraft and this was no emergency.

At 1600, the tarmac was grazed by the presence of a pair of limousines, both official governmental cars. Each limo carried six people, not including the driver. In the rear of the first was the Governor, two security personnel, and three members of his entourage. In the other limousine were the three aides, two security personnel, and another member of the entourage. The entire entourage would, obviously, not be flying to the convention, although they would have liked to go. As the two vehicles pulled up, the silence on the tarmac was broken by the whine of the Learjet's engines powering up and the characteristic, stealthy sound of the F-22As as their engines powered up; each of the F-22As two engines were able to deliver 35,000 pounds of thrust in full afterburning mode.

The six men and two women boarded the Learjet and the limousines were gone, no more than four minutes having passed. The three aircraft, when ready, taxied to the edge of the runway and assumed a triangle formation. One F-22A took the left side of the runway and the other took the right, the nose of the right aircraft being about twenty feet behind the tail of the left aircraft. Behind both of them was the Learjet. Clearance was given immediately to the aircraft and, with a jolt, the F-22As lurched forward, their afterburners lighting, pushing each aircraft, weighing almost 70,000 pounds down the runway to a venomous 160 miles per hour. Then, the aircraft lifted off, each going into a near 30° climb as the Learjet turned its engines to maximum power and began to sprint down the runway, obviously not nearly as quickly as the F-22As but certainly not slow.

All three aircraft climbed to 34,000 feet, cruise altitude, and began their northerly trip to Ottawa, which was a 331 mile journey, barely a half hour. All that would be required was landing clearance once they were in Ottawa.

RomeW

07-09-2005, 22:05

OOC: Rome, Its in the same building, we might as well.

Okay then. We can just assume the other thread happens at a different time than the conference.

Pyschotika

07-09-2005, 22:12

OOC:

Update me please....what has happened since I last posted..>_>

OOC: It would be lovely if I got this answered. You all have been quite active since I last posted, I my self have been moving and fixing my dad's truck. So anyone who has any clue what has happened right before this little conference thingy starting, then it would be lovely if you posted like a 2 sentence thing.

Thanks.

RomeW

07-09-2005, 22:20

OOC: It would be lovely if I got this answered. You all have been quite active since I last posted, I my self have been moving and fixing my dad's truck. So anyone who has any clue what has happened right before this little conference thingy starting, then it would be lovely if you posted like a 2 sentence thing.

Thanks.

OOC: From what I can tell, Celtayoshi has offered to hold peace talks in regards to Poland, and everyone has accepted. We are willing to try the diplomatic option first.

[NS]Kreynoria

07-09-2005, 22:30

A little-known, unimportant ambassador of Kreynoria, Cyrus Ballicius, was dispatched to go to Poland. The Divine Empire did not want to send a major official to what was still considered a warzone. Ambassador Ballicius was sent with an unusually large security detail. He would be arriving in a Learjet launched from Djibouti. A C-5 Galaxy transporter would be carrying the security forces, and 2 F-22 Raptors and 2 F-25 Joint Strike fighters would fly in as escorts.

Pyschotika

07-09-2005, 22:47

OOC: Ah, okay let me post after my shower then.

Celtayoshi

07-09-2005, 23:08

"Layarteb Flight ****, we have you on radar, you are cleared to land on runway 6, I repeat runway 6, that is a direct entry for you today, you escorts have been designated Little Birds 1 and 2, they are also cleared to land. Take your time, we have no other trafic about."

Celtayoshi State News

[i]"We bring you live coverage of mass protests going on just outside the Ring of Steel in Ottawa. People have taken to the streets in their thousnads to protest against the brutal starvation of Polish people by North Germania. Currently Police are allwoing the protest to continue, whilst reinforcements gather behinds me. I can also see Army forces moving in, and just around the corner Water Cannons are being held in case they are needed. In this instance teh goverment has decided to allow the protest to continue, although with the arrival of delegates happening as we speak Police are anxious to ensure the situation does not boil over.

Official Protest to the Government of North Germania

The Allied States of Celtayoshi is deeply disturbed by your governments consideration of starvation as a legitamate tactic for dealing with dissidents, particularly with regards to the fragile peace which currently exists. By Starving this people you are only encouraging more rebellions, one needs only to look back to previous conflicts, where the repression of one side led to many bloody acts of terrorism. The are much more effective ways for dealing with these people, especially given a nation of your considerable size and resources. As a mediator in this dispute we ask that you return farms to the Polish people, at least for the duration of the Peace Conferece, if only to smooth negotiations.

Statement to the Free Republic of Poland

The Allied States of Celtayoshi cannot permit a delegation form the FRP without consent of the holder of the territories. We can, however, assure you that your views will be represented at the conference, and we will try to come to a compromise situation.

To the Sultans of Elephantum

That will be acceptable, and we look forward to meeting you Sultans and Sultaness, and once again thank you for trynig to work towards peace.

Cotland

07-09-2005, 23:19

On the tarmac of Klarseth Int'l Airport just outside Cotlandstad, on the military part of the airport, a convoy of cars rolled up to the massive VC-25B jumbojet that was standing on the tarmac, ready to go. The cars, one black Mercedes strech limousine with the Cottish flag on the right side of the hood and five black Mercedes S-series sedans rolled up to the flight stairs which were guarded by two Sergeants in the Imperial Cottish Air Force.

The cars stopped, and out of three of the sedans came a total of nine security personell dressed in black suits. They scanned the area briefly before opening the door to the limousine, revealing the passenger. Out stepped Emperor Thomas I of Cotland, closely followed by two aides, the leader for the security detachment and the naval officer with the black suitcase chained to his right wrist. The Emperor looked around and took a deep breath from the early morning air before he walked past teh saluting Sergeants and up the stairs to the door of the jumbojet.

There were some saluting there too before the Emperor entered the forward cabin and sat down, closely guarded by the security detachment leader, a twenty-three year veteran in the Army. Of those twenty-three years, fifteen had been spent in the Imperial Guards, the latest five as the head of the Emperors personal security detachment.

The VC-25B had a capasity of more than a hundred passengers, but this time they would travel light. Twelve security staff, fourteen aides and secretaries, five officers, two diplomats and the Emperor himself, not to mention the thirty Air Force staff that worked in the plane, doing everything from piloting it to manning the communications gear on the second level to the stewards. Everyone had their purpose, and they knew it well. The Emperor could calm down and relax for the twelve hours it would take to fly to Ottowa. He was asleep just as the jumbo lifted off from Klarseth Int'l, followed closely by a fighter escort of four F-22B Raptor fighters armed with four 600-gallon external fueltanks, two AIM-9X Sidewinders and four AIM-120D AMRAAMs for self defense.

Layarteb

07-09-2005, 23:54

The two F-22A Raptors landed with the C-21B Learjet, touching down on the runway at optimum landing speeds. They slowed to a stop at the end of the runway and would taxi to a well defended hangar, which was going to be monitored by Celtayoshi and Layartebian soldiers, the pilots of the three aircraft, for one.

Now they would just need to know where to go...

Pyschotika

08-09-2005, 00:23

Even with what was happening at home, the Emperor had sought out time to make a flight to the peace meeting. He was transported to his Leer Jet and was already headed with 25 Officers from the 27th as his personal guard, and two fighter jets.

Elephantum

08-09-2005, 01:46

The group heading to the Ottowa conference assembled in Manama for briefings and meetings. They borded a pair of specially modified 747s, and supported by a trio of F-35s and three decoy planes. The trip would consist of a short flight to Riadyh, followed by the long haul to Ottowa. As this would be an incredibly long journey, they needed refueling, and several planes would assist them in hte journey. Like Air Force One, these planes had modifications enabling in flight refueling. Around the Azores, the decoys pulled off. The fighters left just before they entered Celtayoshi airspace.

Elephanti Royal One and Two, approaching Ottowa. Request permission to land.

Cotland

08-09-2005, 09:34

The skies over Canada were clear in the early morning air that the white VC-25B and its four grey-painted escort fighters flew through. The Emperor had been sleeping for the majority of the flight, and thereby manging to avoid the jetlag that often accompanied such long flights. He was served breakfast, along with the latest intelligence briefs on the situation in the Pacific. The Minister of Foreign Affairs would handle that one. He was a good diplomat, and he knew what was on stake. After the breakfast, he and the rest of the personell on the plane was infomed by the Colonel in the drivers seat that they would land at Ottowa in less than thirty minutes, and that they should all sit down and fasten their seatbelts.

"Ottowa Control, this is Sovereign One accompanied by Red flight, good morning. Requesting permission to land." the Colonel said in perfect English, which was the international language for pilots and air traffic controllers.

Celtayoshi

08-09-2005, 16:41

"Royal One and Two you haev permission to land on runway 6, I repeat runway six."

"Sovereign One and Red Flight you have permission to land on runway one, I repeat runway one."

The Layarteb delegation was met by Celtayoshi Armed Forces and the Minister for Foreign Affairs, he guided them to a waiting convoy, which was led off to Celtayoshi House under high protection, including Police and Army vehicles, and helicopter patrols overhead.
Once they arrived after the short five minute journey, the streets were empty, they were met by the Premier. He shook hands with everyone and led them quickly inside. Staff assisted in bring luggage in, under the watchful eye of Layarteb Security Detail. After the Premier had showed them to their quarters he told them to dial '5' to reach the reception, where they could then be put in contact with anyone and anything. For unsecured outside lines they should use the prefix '9'

Now two convoys were lined up for the Cottish and Elephantum delegates. With the Pyschotika diplomats arriving very soon.

Cotland

08-09-2005, 16:50

The massive, sleek VC-25B landed on runway one, followed by Red flight, who landed simultaniously. It was dangerous, but it showed the Elephanti plane that was landing not far from there who routined and skilled the Cots were with their fighters. The VC-25B taxied to the waiting convoy, where some stairs were rolled up to the jumbojet.

The door opened, and a man dressed in black looked out the door for a few seconds before he raised a walkie-talkie to his mouth and said something. A moment later, the two Sergeants from the departure rushed down the stairs and took up positions down there while four security staff walked quickly down. Then, the Emperor emerged in the opening and walked down the stairs slowly. He was followed by the staff and security detail to whereever the Celtayoshians would bring them.

The VC-25B and the F-22Bs would be parked and kept at the airport under the protection from the pilots, crews and the Celtayoshian soldiers while the Emperor were at the conference.

Layarteb

08-09-2005, 17:40

The Layartebian delegation made themselves cozy in the room. It was very nice accomodations and the Celtayoshi government was doing a fine job. The delegation was, sort of, the odd men out. The Empire had no political desires or conditions concerning Poland. Poland was a Germanian territory and that was that about it. No other nation had any right to it and that was final. As for conditions and such they wanted nothing except to see that North Germania wasn't attacked because that act would draw in them to the war.

Elephantum

08-09-2005, 20:01

The Elephanti planes pulled into the runway, and the delegation prepared to disembark. Most had spent the flight reviewing notes, going over maps, and coming up with a plan for the meetings. The goup was not large, only twenty seven individuals, but due to security protocol they had been forced to take two planes. One of the planes was to return to Jordan, and another would remain in Ottowa, guarded by a Royal Guardsman at all times. Like most educated citizens, all of the crew had studied English for several years, and most had fluency or near fluency in English. However, most of them spoke Arabic as a first language, and used it talking amongst themselves.

Preparing to disembark Elephanti Royal One.

Staff Member- We'll be disembarking in five minutes.
Hiraz e-Mumman - Very good, any word from the Poles?
Staff Member- Not yet, but we will inform you as soon as we get any information.
Nipuun Brahman- Is Mumarth ready?
Staff Member-He is in Kurdistan, and ready to leave as soon as we get a response
Hiraz e-Mumman-Good, who else has arrived here?
Communications Officer-The Layartebians are already here, as are the Romans (ooc-I think). The Cots pulled up just before us on runway one. Pulled a rather daring landing with thier fighters as well.
Nipuun Brahman-They had the nerve to bring armed aircraft to a peace conference, not the best way to start, is it. I suppose we are expected to feel intimidated.

The door opened, and the group moved out onto the tarmac.

Celtayoshi

08-09-2005, 21:27

OOC:No-one is quite sure where the Romans are, I think they died, poor things. lol (j/k)

IC: The Cottish delegation was taken directly to Celtayoshi House, unfortunately, Celtayoshi had only one Foreign Minister, and he could not be in two places at once, therefore to speed up the process the Celtayoshi Plice took the Cottish empire through the military arrival ceremony and out to the awaiting vehicles, were they were taken to Celtayoshi House to meet with the Premier, again they were shown to their rooms and left to make themselves comfortable for the next while.
The Elephantum delegation was meet by the Foreign Minister. As this was there first encounter with Celtyoshi they were given a full arrival ceremony, and the national anthems were played, and national flags flew during a simple but fitting ceremony. They too were taken to Celtayoshi House, where they met the Premier and where shown to there rooms.
Light refreshments were served to all delegates by the staff on duty, and it was decided to take each party out individually to show them around the grounds at some point later in the day.
The only other important matter was the discussion about security arrangements, senior Celtayoshi Police and Army Staff met with the Chief of Security for all the delegates, asking them if they had any particular security concerns.

RomeW

08-09-2005, 22:52

OOC: Har har. I just wasn't sure if I had to write an extensive landing post considering I'm already there.

IC:

An hour before the peace process was to begin, Rodin Hartian sat in his room pondering what lay ahead. He was already in Ottawa discussing with Celtayohsian Premier Nemeth about the Yonge Street proposal, so he did not have far to go for the peace process.

Still, he was a bit nervous. In public he always presented himself as a strong leader but in private he has a bit of cautious streak. Most of the time he could be a man of conviction, but today, with all the uncertainly revolving the Poland situation, his nervousness was more pronounced. He was doing everything in his power to calm himself down for the eventual meeting, but given the graveness of the circumstances, this wouldn't be easy. Eventually, he got himself to the point where he could attend, but he was still a little anxious.

"Don't screw this up," he said to himself, as he walked out the door of his hotel room and into the conference hall.

[NS]Kreynoria

09-09-2005, 02:09

The Kreynorian delegation had mistakely believed that the conference was at Poland, and thus followed the embarrassing situation of the Germanian flight control officer explaining that the conference was in Celtayoshi. The Kreynorian planes returned to Djibouti to refuel and then set off, this time with a pair of KC-135s to handle in-flight refuelings.

OOC: A bit of humor, as I didn't realize the conference was in Celtayoshi until reading the above post.

RomeW

09-09-2005, 05:15

Kreynoria']The Kreynorian delegation had mistakely believed that the conference was at Poland, and thus followed the embarrassing situation of the Germanian flight control officer explaining that the conference was in Celtayoshi. The Kreynorian planes returned to Djibouti to refuel and then set off, this time with a pair of KC-135s to handle in-flight refuelings.

OOC: A bit of humor, as I didn't realize the conference was in Celtayoshi until reading the above post.

OOC: LOL...though I doubt we'd stage a conference in the middle of a potential warzone.

Hawdawg

09-09-2005, 13:05

OOC: I am going to be out of pocket for a few days, but here is how my deligation arrives.

IC:

As Prime Minister Wales toured the Dat' Pizdy Corporation plant that was constructing the new MMPWV LV-08 Armored Trucks the Royal Hawdawg Marines had purchased recently, he was informed of the Peace Conference in Ottowa.

PM Wales: How far is the drive from here to Ottowa?

PM Aide: Sir, its about four hours.

PM Wales: Well, lets drive it then, I would like to tour the Northern Soviet Bloc territories anyway. We used to have possession of these lands several years ago.

PM Aide: Very well sir, I will inform the Celtayoshi Embassy of our travel intenrary.

As the motorcade departed for Ottowa the message was sent to the Celtayoshi embassy.

"The Prime Minister of Hawdawg is currently touring the Soviet Bloc, and will arrive in some 5 hours at the designated location for the conference in Ottowa. Please inform your border checkpoints of our travel route and plans. "

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After the long road trip, the delegation arrived at the Conference location. The Prime Minister settled in for a long and intense few days of negotiations over Poland.

Celtayoshi

09-09-2005, 14:24

The Hawdawg method of arrival had caused uproar in the security deparments, as they frantically drafted in plain clothes police and unmarked cars to follow the PM.

Meanwhile the Miniister of Foreign Affairs met the Kreynorian delegation and they were taken by the conventional method to Celtayoshi House. With only a few delegates still to arrive Celtayoshi staff members were busy dealing with lasdt minute problems. Right now each delegation had its own Lounge Room, but there was the Grand Hall of the West Wing, in which delegates could meet each other before the conference actually began.

Cotland

09-09-2005, 14:55

The trip from Cotland to Celtayoshi had gone off without a hitch, although the Emperor were somewhat irritated that he had not been greeted by a member of the cabinet, but that was just details. All in all, he looked forward to the conference. Perhaps they could avoid war. God knew that Cotland needed peace. If they were to fight two wars at once, they would be left without a credible defense, something that could not be allowed under any circumstances. Especially not with the Spartan threat to Cotland itself. But if it came to war, Cotland would be ready. These were the thoughts that concerned the Emperor, who were close to oblivious to the surroundings, which were very fine indeed.

While the Emperor, diplomats and officers confered, the aides watched TV and the security personell, twelve members of the Imperial Guards, kept watch. There were naturally Celtayoshian security personell outside the quarters, but the IGs wouldn't allow anyone to enter without a thurrough security check.

(OOC: Following is Secret IC) If anyone tried anything, they all had a P17 pistol with five extra magazines, each holding 12 .45ACP bullets, a Seal2000 knife and a telescopic baton each. Three of the men also had special bags which held a single MP5K submachine gun, fitted with a extended magazine which held 50 9 x 19 mm rounds, all of them hollowpoint. There were five extra magazines for each weapon in the bag. The regulations for the conference said that they couldn't bring firearms in the presence of the other diplomats, and the guards would respect the regulations. Each of the men had been specially trained with the knifes and batons, as well as various disiplines of martial arts. If anyone attacked their Emperor, they could hold their own, even without the pistols and SMGs.

North Germania

09-09-2005, 18:52

- Encryption: Minimum -

Message To: All Involved Parties
Message From: Reichskanzler Kübler
Subject: Rebel Polish Representation

"I will allow for a representative chosen by the rebels in Poland to attend the conference. I would like to emphasize, however, that neither I nor the Germanian government or people recognize the Districts of Poland currently under rebel control as a free nation, we are willing to speak with someone who represents them. I am quite interested to hear what they have to say, so long as they are respectful. The nation of Celtayoshi may land in rebel Poland to provide the transportation of a Polish representative if it so chooses.

-- Reichskanzler Kübler"

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Austria...

Following a message from the leader of Celtayoshi, and because of the Reichskanzler's respect for that nation, an order had been given to the Reichsheer to initiate an immediate and huge food, water, and medical supply drop over the rebel-controlled Districts of Poland.

Based out of the Laibau Luftwaffe Airbase in Vienna, a total of 10.000 tons of food, water, and medical supplies were flown over the Districtcs, and dropped from massive TF-92 cargo planes. Huge aluminum crates fell gently to the ground, gliding in on parachutes, and landing in the streets for the Poles to receive. Inside were M.R.E.'s, insulin, pain relievers, jugs of clean water, and other basics required to keep the Poles alive.

While the normal food, water, power, and medical standards had not been reactivated, the government wished to show the Poles who were rebelling that they held no hard feelings towards them...

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Ottowa, Canada...

Reichskanzler Kübler's personal jet, the "Fliegenfestung" touched down at the airport. Surrounded by security personnel, as he was one of the primary targets for assassination, the Reichskanzler and his staff eventually arrived at the hotel and prepared for the conference...

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Rome: Forgiven. Thank you for your apology.

RomeW

09-09-2005, 19:36

Rome: Forgiven. Thank you for your apology.

You're welcome.

Layarteb

09-09-2005, 21:05

OOC: See now we're all acting civil. Good beans!

The Layartebian delegation sat quietly in the conference room. Security personnel waited outside with one of the aides. Inside the room, the Governor of New York and two of his aides listened intently. The Governor was chosen because of her ability to speak all languages represented at the conference, having no need for the translators. Her aides, on the other hand did not speak all of the languages by themselves but with all three of them, they spoke a good amount. The Governor was under strict orders from the Emperor to demand nothing but the cessation of hostilities against the Third Reich and the abandonment of all foreign claims to Poland. When her turn came to speak, she would.

[NS]Kreynoria

09-09-2005, 21:36

The Kreynorian ambassador had been very irritated by the incident in Poland, and staid in his room in Celtayoshi House. The security detail, when learning that no firearms were permitted in the presence of foreign diplomats, instead armed themselves with K-2 combat knives. The general Kreynorian view was that Poland should be an autonomous republic jointly controlled by North Germania and Carthage, and it would be this plan of action that would be presented by the ambassador.

Hawdawg

09-09-2005, 22:56

Prime Minister Wales strolled into the conference room. His personal guard stood watch outside the designated area, ever vigilant of a potential threat. These men weren't armed with firearms, but each carried a large "Scottish Walking Stick". Each stick was taken from the root of a Boadarc Tree, one of the hardest woods on earth. These sticks dressed fashionably with lacquer and varnish were a definitely works of art, but in the hands of a trained man they could be deadly.

As Prime Minister Wales moved from group to group introducing himself, he had settled on taking the quiet approach to this conference. Quietly representing the Holy Republic of Hawdawg's interests and pressing for an end to hostilities to there staunch ally North Germania. The possible disruption of oil was ever present in the back of his mind and he wanted to head-off this potential economic problem before it surfaced. Peace was the only option in his opinion.

Celtayoshi

09-09-2005, 23:16

The Premier came out to great Reichskanzler Kübler, he shook his hand and led him inside.

"We wish to thank you for restoring some food supplies to the Polish people, and for allowing a Polish delegation to come. It will definitly help the talks process if there are no complicating factors for some of the nations to point to."

After travelling a small distance they came to the North Germanian rooms,

"Well, these are your quarters, please, contact the reception if you need anything at all. My staff shall bring light refreshments soon. You shall have your own private lounge, and the Great Hall of the West Wing is where all delegates can meet. Remember, if you need anything at all, just ask."

The Premier bowed and left to attend to other matters.

Meanwhile, an Air Celtayoshi aircraft used for minor diplomats from Celtayoshi had been dispatched to North Germania, there they where to pick up the Polish delegation, and take them to Celtayoshi. Whilst in Celtayoshi they would be kept seperate from the other delegates, staying in the East Wing of Celtayoshi House, and they would not be allowed to mix with the other delegates, except during the conference itselt and their security would be provided by Celtayoshi only. Other than that they would be treated the same as the rest of the delegates.

OOC: What sort of shape do you want thsi conference to take, ie, round table, seperate sides, Celtayoshi mediating etc? Personally I think a round table discussion with Premier Németh acting as mediator?

Layarteb

09-09-2005, 23:19

Personally I think a round table discussion with Premier Németh acting as mediator?

I would think that would be best but I have no say ;).

Cotland

09-09-2005, 23:32

OOC: I agree.

North Germania

10-09-2005, 02:56

OOC: I too agree. Shall we get things underway? Most everyone is here. If there's anyone else who isn't, let's assume they had already arrived. Sound alright? If not, I'll fix.

IC:

The Reichskanzler felt the need to humble himself at the politeness and generosity shown to him by the Premier [!] of Celtayoshi. Such great respect was only shown to him by Party Members in Germania, and the Reichsheer.

In return, the Reichskanzler saluted and thanked him for his hospitality.

As was the agreed safety protocol for this conference, any aides were not to carry firearms, and therefore his two bodyguards (both of them Obersts) of the secretive, ultra-elite, and very little-known Schwarzenjäger Black Ops branch of the Reichsheer were carrying 'ceremonial' daggers at their waists, one each.

The daggers were just over 10 inches long, but were designed for close combat or throwing, if need be. However, Reichskanzler Heydrich Kübler was concentrating less on the security aspect, and more on what the stance of the Reich was to be.

Poland had long been a territory of Germania, and had long been treated as equally as any other territory. Its place as part of the mainland European hand of the Reich was essential to maintaining the safety, commerce, transportation, agricultural and industrial production, scientific achievements, artists and musicians of Germanian title, and solidity that former Reichskanzlers had driven so hard to attain. And because of this, Kübler would by no means allow the territory of Poland to be governed by a foreign power, and certainly not by bribes, monetary sums, or other trivial forms of compensation. On the other hand, the Reichskanzler respected the people of Poland for their bravery and determination, but looked down on their underhanded methods, violence, lack of organization, and failure to think ahead. This would, however, not deter him from offering the Polish people something they had not been offered before, which he would present to them at the conference.

The time soon came for the delegation to begin, and so Kübler and his two SJ bodyguards headed towards the West Wing of the Celtayoshi House, away from their luxurious suite.

As the Reichskanzler entered, he noticed three important friends: the Emperor of Layarteb, the Emperor of Cotland, and Prime Minister Wales of Hawdawg. The leaders of Kreynoria, Rome, Celtayoshi, Pyschotika, Cotland, Elephantum, and a representative for the Polish rebellion were also seated. It appeared the Reichskanzler was a bit late.

Kübler shook everyone's hands, and then took a seat at the large, round oak table. As the Reichskanzler could not speak English, a translator stood closely behind him. The Celtayoshian Premier Nemeth then spoke.

"Shall we begin?"

Elephantum

10-09-2005, 03:00

OOC-that sounds good. Is TLS still RPing as the Polish rebels?

IC-The Sultans were unpacking and getting settled in their rooms. While most of the other delegates would wear fine tailored suits of imported silk, the Elephantis wore more traditional dress. Fine robes and headresses were common, all with their own particular story.

Sharina e-Mumman had a fine hijab , or traditional headress. She had met the herders who grew the sheep and sheared the will, the factory workers who dyed the wool and spun the thread, and the seamstresses who had turned the fine black thread into the beautiful cloth. Her robe was embroidered with fine Arabic script, detailing the history of the birth of the country. The garment had been sent by a working mother in Bahrain after Wandu e-Mumman's death. She had worked on it every night after coming back from a day of clerical work. When Sharina offered payment, the woman said she was just trying to cheer her up after the High Sultan's assassination.

Her son Hiraz was off meeting with Hawdawg security officials. Like most richer Elephantis, they all carried finely decorated weapons. A fine bejewled dagger was her choice, and she carried it with her at all times. They had agreed not to carry them in Celtayoshi House, but they wanted to carry them if they were out and about in Ottowa. This had been the first time a Sultan had crossed the Altantic since the loss of Nebraska, before the First Hogsweatian War, and they were unsure of political opinion in the continent.

If they were attacked, along with indivdual close combat weapons, they were escorted by some of the top members of the Royal Guard. All carried an eclectic mix of pistols and close combat weapons, and were better fighters than any others in any military branch.

They were all anxious to start the conference and end this peacefully. As Polish leadership would be arriving in Ottowa, it was also important to try and get a private conversation with them. It was now unneccessary for Mumarth e-Thalith to visit Poland, and instead would likely vist Kreynoria for the conference there.

EDIT-Ok, then its started.

The Elephantis waited, notes ready, for someone to initiate the debate. They did not create this problem, Germania did. The did not try to fuel the problem, like Carthage did. They only entered after the attacks on innocent Poles. Perhaps one of the nations more directly involved would make the first move.

Cotland

10-09-2005, 13:50

The Cottish Emperor were already in place, seated at the "round table" next to the Layartebian representative and Reichskanzler Kübler of Germania. He was wearing a nice tailor-made suit made out of the finest wool, complete with a white shirt and a tie made out of the finest Chineese silk. Behind him, the diplomats and two flagofficers , one from the Navy and one from the Army, sat. He was ready for the negotiations to start, and wuold leave it up to either Germania or Carthage to start talking.

The Cottish view on things were that the events in Germania were an internal problem and nothing for the world to worry about. The attacks on the Poles were not genocide, it was counter-terrorism operations, something that Germania and all other members of the October Alliance were obligated to do according to the secretive charter of said alliance. The Carthaginians were the ones doing the warmongering, and it was they who had started this whole chain of events that lead the world to the brink of war. It was they who needed to be punished, not Germania. In Cotlands view, the events in Germania should be left to Germania to worry about, and all claims to "liberate" Poland be dropped. Cotland was ready to defend its close ally with all means possible if anyone attempted anything against Germania, but Cotland would not fire the first shot.

Celtayoshi

10-09-2005, 14:01

OOC: Yes, Premier, as in leader/Prime Minister/Head of State, as opposed to commie 'first among equals'

IC: The Premier now added,

"The reason we are all gathered here today is to come to an agreement over the situation in Poland. Therefore I believe we should first here the stance of North Germania on the Issue, and then that of Carthage, and then finally of the Poles themselves. Following that we will then progress to dealing with points of conflict. Please note that each of you will be supplied with the minutes of the meeting in both the original English, and our translation into the first language of your nation. However, that is to come, first Reichskanzler, if you would like to open with the current stance of the North Germanian Government."

Layarteb

11-09-2005, 02:34

The Governor of New York sat and wondered. She wanted to hear, most of all, what the sides had to say. This was a very fragile situation and at any minute it could turn into a massive war.

The Lightning Star

11-09-2005, 17:39

OOC: Let's just say that my guys have arrived, mmmkay? I don't have enough time to write a good post, and I'd rather not write a bad one.

Hawdawg

14-09-2005, 04:32

When Hiraz the son of Sharina e-Mumman approached Prime Minister Wales, he introduced himself to the young man. Most anxious to take his seat at the table he referred Hiraz to his top Security Attachee' to answer any questions he might have about the Hawdawg Delegation. Seated at the table close to his allies from North Germania, and Cotland, Prime Minister Wales wanted to send a symbolic jesture of unity. Behind Prime Minister Wales sat two of trusted Cabinet Members, Defense Secretary Gordon Wells and Economic Minister Monald Crump. Both these men came to the conference to advise Wales on the economic and military implications of any agreements reached. Prime Minister hadn't been involved with the day-to-day operations in the Department of Defense for several years and the light Wells could shed on potential problems was essential. Minister Crump was looking out for the economic good of Hawdawg and would offer up suggestions on what stances to take, should the need arise. The Hawdawg Delegation listened intently to the gracious Celtayoshi host and anxiously awaited the North Germanian opening statement.

Celtayoshi

14-09-2005, 16:50

OOC: We will just be patient for the moment, North Germanian is probably sorting a few more important things out right now...

Elephantum

18-09-2005, 17:35

Since no one is sure when NG will be able to post, why not just un-start the conference, and allow different groups to have secret meetings and create diabolical plots?

Layarteb

18-09-2005, 23:38

NG gave me a call today and it seems like it'll be a little longer than originally thought before he gets a chance to post. He's okay and all it's just, in the wake of all that happened, he's got a lot of tasks to do so he'll be on D13 for a while now.

North Germania

22-09-2005, 02:25

OOC: Excuse me, please.

IC:

Reichskanzler Kübler started off the deliberations with a polite tone, yet the aura in the room was beyond tense. Two armies were poised on the Swiss/Austrian-Italian border, in the heart of the Alps, ready to strike at any moment if given the word. Massive 600mm railroad guns sat on every coastline in the Mediterranean, and a grand total of seven armies were guarding 'Fortress Europe'.

Needless to say, he was careful with the tone of his voice and his word-usage. Thus, it began.

Reichskanzler Kübler: "It is with great honor that I have been joined together with some of the greatest leaders of the world. Now, with that having been said, I must voice the interests of the Reich in this state of affairs.

The Polish citizens have, since the beginning of the merging of Poland with Germania, been treated with the utmost respect, as they are the neighbors of the Volksdeutsche, and therefore of admirable culture and nature. However, there is always Gift im Wort, poison in words, and we must deal with this appropriately. To allow these brigands to trespass freely on the name of strength, greatness, dignity, and the infinitely prestigious culture of Germania would be an abomination, and a threat to the stability of not only Europe, but the world.

As it stands, we have done no great injustices to these rebels - as the OS and Reichsheer could easily squash this fly on an elephant's back with the brush of a hand - rather on the contrary; 10.000 tons of food, medical supplies, water, and other such necessities have recently been airdropped over the rebel-held lands in Poland.

It is with great concern on my part that Carthage has chosen to involve itself in our internal affairs. Have we once stuck our noses into your sovereignty, which I still respect? No. We have only been threatened.

I wish now for the respective Layartebian and Cottish representatives to speak with their opinions on the treaties of the October Alliance, and our diligance to respect those rules.

Secondly, I would like to hear the opinion, finally in person so I can read the body language of each delegate, of Carthage and the Polish Rebels.

Thank you."

The Lightning Star

22-09-2005, 02:32

OOC: Errr, can I still post?

I mean, you said you'd like Layarteb and Cotland to post, but I'm here...

Layarteb

22-09-2005, 02:58

The Layartebian delegate nodded. "The Layartebian position on this matter is simply put. The Empire has, continues, and always will be a strong ally of the North Germanian people. They have helped us and we shall help them, true and true, by and by. The October Alliance is strong and it is our duty to protect all members of this alliance as best we can.

"In light of this and in light of the lack of war at the moment, let us not be perceived to be banging the war drums. The stance of the Empire is as follows. All hostilities against North Germania will cease. Poland is a territory of the Germanian people and as such they have the sovereign right to govern it as they see fit. The people of Poland may wish to rebel but it is the duty of the Germanian government to supress said rebellion in order to protect the whole.

"The duty of a government is to protect its citizens. If any force, domestic or foreign, threatens the safety of their citizens then it is their duty to protect them. If the government did not fulfill this obligation, it would be illegitimate.

"All countries intervening on behalf of the Polish rebellion are threatening the safety and sanctity of the Germanian people. It is the duty of the government to protect its people.

"The Empire's position is as such. All hostilities will cease, all claims to Poland by any nation will be dropped, and all efforts to meddle in the internal affairs of a sovereign nation will cease immediately. The Empire does not wish to go to war but the Empire will fight on behalf of our truest allies if necessary." The delegate cleared her throat and looked around. She was a brutal politician and was known to be extremely witty and tactful.

The Lightning Star

22-09-2005, 03:20

OOC: This is going to be sub-par because I need to go to bed soon, but here it goes...

IC:
The Carthaginian Delegate, Grand Duke Alphonse of Zarzis, stood up to begin his speach. "Honorable Chair and fellow delegates," began the Grand Duke, "We are gathered here to avoid a war of horrific proportions. Although the many parties gathered here today have drastically different views of the situation, we ask that all parties try to stay calm during the meeting.

"That being said, the stand of the Carthaginian Government is with the Polish People. We have nothing but utmost respect for North Germania, but at least 80% of the Polish People wish to rule themselves. We will support the Polish People in whatever path they take, yet we believe that the best solution to this problem is diplomacy."

After the Grand Duke sat down, the delegate of the Free Republic of Poland stood up. "The wish of the Polish People is clear: The ability to rule ourselves. Our state has a history of being controlled by other nations, and for once we would like to have a say in our own lives. Yes, the North Germanians have treated us like any other citizens of their Reich, but we don't wish to be treated like any other citizens of the Reich. We don't wish to not have a say in the government. We don't wish to have our opinions dictated by propaganda posters. We wish to govern ourselves. We are a democratic people: We were among the first democracies in Europe, we had the first constitution, and more.

"However, this does not mean we want to split with the Reich. Certainly, if the Reich will not allow us to follow our way of life, then we will continue this rebellion, and however futile it may be, we will fight to the last. We just seek self-rule. Not even full self rule. We have no need to raise an army. Nay, we don't even need to control the police force(although, that would be a nice thing to have). We just want to democratically elect our own leaders. If you were to grant us this semi-autonomy, we would be quite happy. We would focus on our economy, the everyday business of running our land, industry, etc. You will still have the last word on what happens concerning business that affects the rest of the Reich, of course. The delegation of Poland is certain that there aren't at least a few people in Berlin who wouldn't be at least a bit happy that they didn't have to take care of every meager detail in running Poland.

"If you grant us these small things, and we are willing to negotiate on what you will grant us, then we will gladly pledge our alleigance to the Reich. We will send off our young men to die for you. We will focus our economy towards building armaments for you. We will provide shelter for your soldiers when they are wounded and need help. However, if you do not grant us anything, then we will die on the field of battle against the Reich."

RomeW

23-09-2005, 01:13

OOC: I should make the point that my nation has made no overtures to war at all by this time, save for a communique only TLS knows about.

Rodin Hartian made his statement very direct and to the point:

"We are not one to tell other nations how to run their countries," started Hartian. "However, we believe the situation in Poland is one that we think has reached the point where the status quo will lead to more violence and instability, and thus we think that how Poland is treated needs to be re-evaluated, for the continuation of the stability and order of the European continent.

What we propose is that a plebiscite under universal Polish suffrage be held in Poland over the question of independence, or at least autonomy. This election can be monitored by a third party that can be agreed upon by Carthage and Germania. That way, this question can ultimately be resolved with no bloodshed."

Cotland

23-09-2005, 07:34

The Emperor rose from his seat and prepared to give the delegates the Cottish point of view on the situation.

"Honored delegates. The Cottish point of view is simple. Poland falls under Germanian rule, and the outside world should refrain from interfering. I therefore join my allies in saying that it's as simple as that.

While we do not wish to enter conflict with anyone, Cotland will assist Germania in any way possible, military included, if anyone should decide to enter conflict with Germania.

We Cots honor our alliances, and the October Alliance is no exception. If Germania is attacked, we will send our entire military might in to defend our trusted ally.

It all boils down to this: The situation in Poland is an internal matter, and it should be treated as such. By keeping out and let Germania handle the situation by itself! Who are we to tell anyone how to rule their country? If say Rome were to tell Carthage how to run Neo-Carthage or Carthage itself, how would you respond, Grand Duke?"

The Emperor sat back in his chair and waited for the Carthaginian to respond. He already ensured that he would be given a chance to answer any comments from the Grand Duke the moment he was done.

Celtayoshi

23-09-2005, 16:28

The Premier werily rose, he dectected that it could be a long time before any deal was reached, but he would press ahead anyway.

"Okay, each of you has had a chance to respond with opinions, now we must look at facts. Firstly, the Polish territory is a North Germanian territory, which they have laid claim to, and are the reconised rulers of Poland by the international community. However, it is true that the population of this land wishes to become independent, to an extent. Perhaps we should here why they have such a burning desire to be independent of one of the worlds foremost powers? Also, would the North Germania delegation entertain the possibility of a semi-automonous region?

North Germania

23-09-2005, 21:24

Layarteb

23-09-2005, 21:45

Secret IC

The Emperor was monitoring the peace conference closely from his castle in Layarteb City. "This is going to become very tense, if not erupt into the conflict it is meant to avoid," he said to his closest aide. "These characters, Elephantum, Carthage, they have no honest intentions here. They are supplying the Polish insurgents with arms, money, and probably bodies. They want the land. There is no independence for the Poles in their eyes. They wish to get them to declare independence from the Third Reich only to then declare allegiance to their own land. Crafty devils." He cleared his throat. "We must do everything we can to prevent their intentions from actually being carried out." He had papers in front of him, the recommendation from the Joint Chiefs. "The Joint Chiefs recommend that we beef up their military as much as we can. Effective immediately, I am sending 50 F-36A Thorn interceptors to combat high-altitude, high-speed bombers." The aide nodded and took notes. "They are to be flown from Dnalkrad to Iceland to France to Germany immediately. Keep them far away from prying eyes. They may be stealthy but accidents do happen."

"Yes sir." The aide nodded. Within six hours, the 50 aircraft were beginning their trip. The planes were fighter derivatives of the SR-71 Blackbird, originally designated YF-12 but that project was cancelled.

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[Specifications]

NOTE: This system is top secret IC
ROLE: Interceptor
CREW: 2
COST: $125M
LENGTH: 101.75 ft.
WINGSPAN: 55.58 ft.
HEIGHT: 18.50 ft.
EMPTY WEIGHT: 60,000 lb.
MAXIMUM WEIGHT: 128,000 lb.
FUEL WEIGHT: 60,000 lb.
ARMAMENT WEIGHT: 8,000 lb.
POWERPLANT: Two Pratt & Whitney JT11D-20X afterburning turbo-ramjets
MAXIMUM THRUST: 80,000 lb.
MAXIMUM SPEED @ S/L: 650 mph
MAXIMUM SPEED @ ALTITUDE: 2,500 mph
INITIAL CLIMB RATE: 45,000 ft/min
SERVICE CEILING: 125,000 ft.
RANGE: 2,175nm
G-LIMITS: -2 / +5
GUN: 2 M61A2 Vulcan Cannon with 2,400 rounds
STATIONS: 4 internal weapons bays, each capable of holding up to 2,000 lb.
AIR TO AIR ARMAMENT: Up to 2 AIM-9 and 4 AIM-120 or AIM-179 per bay for a total of 8 AIM-9 and up to 16 AIM-120 or AIM-179; can also carry up to 2 AIM-54 per bay
AIR TO GROUND ARMAMENT: None
AVIONICS: AN/APG-81 AESA; AN/ASQ-28 IFTS; Pirate IRST
ECM: Full radar & infra-red jamming; 240 chaff bundles, 240 flares
RADAR SIGNATURE: 0.15 square feet

The Lightning Star

23-09-2005, 22:39

The Reichskanzler consider the situation carefully before replying to the Premier's question. As long as the Heer and OS could protect the Reich, and as long as its borders were safely secured, there would be no reason to grant the Poles independence. Kübler's ice-cold gaze drifted towards the Polish representative. He stared at the man while he spoke.

Reichskanzler Kübler: "As long as the strength, dignity, culture, and very being of the Reich lies intact, there will be no negotiation for an independent Polish state. A semi-autonomous state is impossible without the stability of the region, and currently, the only stability lies in the fact that with a single phone call, the Free Republic of Poland could be crushed within hours.

We would like to remind those gathered today that it was this Polish rebellion which was responsible for the bombings which claimed the lives of over 200 Germanian civilians in the Warsaw and Krakow districts, as well as three dozen soldiers of the Heer. Why should we negotiate with those who represent a threat to the state? After decades of struggling to solidify mainland Europe, why should we allow that to collapse because of acts of terrorism?"

The Polish delegate, a Krakow business-man named Tadeusz Kościuszko(who always kept his right arm covered and limp), calmly stood up to reply to the statement of the Reichskanzler.

"We will continue this rebellion as a last resort, not the first. Our sole wish is to have some say in our lives. Your warmongering government may not wish to see a group of people willfully fight for the reich, but our people will gladly do it if we are given a say in our lives. If the situation was reversed, and Germany was being ruled from Warsaw instead of Berlin, would you not seek the same? Or would you just sit by and watch your families get massacred before your eyes?

You claim that we are the terrorists. However, it very well may be you who are the terrorists. When this whole thing started, I was just minding my own business taking care of the family in the Kazimierz district of Krakow. Then one day, I heard gun-fire, and the next thing I new my children were crushed under a Germanian Tank. 5 of them died that horrible death. My youngest child, Casimir, looked in horror at the tank, whose bottom had splatters of blood all over it. After the tank had past, a squad of Germanian soldiers rushed into my house. When they pointed their guns at my son, my beautiful wife ran in front of him to protect him from the bullets.

Both of them had their bodies riped to shreads by bullets. They then turned their line of fire, and fired on me. I lifted my right arm up, and they blasted it to pieces. Leaving me for dead, they marched out of my house to massacre who knows how many people."

He threw off the cloak which covered his right arm and, with his left, lifted it up so that the Germanian delegate could see it clearly. It could barely be called an arm. The flesh had been ripped from the bone in many places, and the bone itself was damaged. A few of the delegates looked away from the sight.

"After that, I joined the Free Republic of Poland. This is the story of countless others, too. Over the years, you have murdered tens of thousands of my fellow Poles because they simply did not wish to be ruled by what propaganda posters told them to do. The Polish people have all the reason to want to kill you all.

But they don't even wish to do that. We simply want to rule ourselves, at least to some degree. You act as if you could wipe us out in a blink of an eye, but wiping out more than 50 million people is no easy thing to accomplish. You would ruin the breadbasket of Europe as well. If you wish to save your precious Reich, negotiate with us, and grant us our semi-autonomy. Otherwise, we will continue the fight, and then once news of our rebellion will reach the other areas of the reich, and before you know it you will have a full-fledged revolution on your hands."

Cotland

23-09-2005, 22:57

The Emperor heard the Germanian response, and the Polish response to that again. When he saw the wounds on the arm of the Pole, he was reminded of that time when the Carthaginian terrorists had invaded Sicily, which was then a Cottish holding, and the Cots had defended their territory. More than a hundred thousand Cottish soldiers had lost their lives in that conflict, with more wounded. He had visited the wounded soldiers and seen first-hand the horrors of war. Still, he had been in the Army himself and he knew that victory does not come without casualties. The Poles were fighting for their independence, and they were dying in the process. Still, they were opposing the rule of Germania, something that was a bad idea. If Poland seperated, it would destabilize the region and cast Europe into bloody wars. That could not be allowed to happen! Therefore Thomas and the rest of official Cotland considered the rebel Poles to be terrorists, and they would have to be treated accordingly. In Cotland that meant that if the military was involved, you could bet that it would mean shoot on sight! If the police were involved, then you could also bet on shoot on sight, but any survivors from the initial volley that surrendered would be arrested, forced to confess, be fairly trialed and hung/electrocuted/gassed. Shaking his head slightly to rid itself of the images and the following thoughts, the Emperor sat idly by and waited for the Germanian response to this revelation. He made a mental note to have someone tag this fellow so that the Cots knew where he were in case a assassination became necessary.

Elephantum

24-09-2005, 03:09

Amid the debates, the Elephanti group had remained silent. Sharina e-Mumman rose, and camly began speaking;

"All of you make your demands, threaten your opponents, and leave no room for compromise. Look at each other. What would happen to you, Reichskanzler, if the Poles were to decide your fate? You, Kościuszko, understand your fate if you lose. This can end without more death and more violence. Each looks to war, without regard to the consequences. The Germanians, Layartebians, and Cots want each nation to be responsible for dealing with themselves independently, which is a fine and noble cause. However, the Poles wish for the same right, and are cut down in the street.

A compromise must be reached for the sake of all citizens of this Earth. The death will not be confined to Warsaw and Krakow, it will touch all corners of the planet. While no plan will appease all, we would like to propose one.

We would ask for permission to send representatives from Elephantum to Poland, and offer those who want independence a chance to leave. Poles who take this option would be granted free permission out of the country. They would be given the chance to form independent communities in Elephantum. Iran, Kurdistan, Iraq, Arabia, Central India, and Southern India can all offer substantial space for the Poles to set up communities, independently governed and protected by the Elephanti Military. If numbers suffice, the province of Goa in Central India will be given to the Free Republic of Poland. While many may decide to stay in their homeland, those who fear death and punishment from the Germanians will be able to leave.

Also, if our methods are not trusted, perhaps a nation viewed in a better light, like our gracious hosts here, would offer to act as mediators in the conflict.

To the Poles, we understand this may feel unfair, but any peace is better than no peace, for all of us."

Layarteb

24-09-2005, 03:13

The Layartebian delegate was quick to pick up on the response of the Elephantis. "Such is a noble proposition. I am curious though, if you are to give such communities in various places to the Poles what will be the status? Surely will you give them independence to rule as they see fit or autonomy?"

Elephantum

24-09-2005, 03:42

Hiraz e-Mumman answered the Layartebian questions.

"The Polish people will be given the right to create a constitution for their nation. Perhaps they would choose democracy, perhaps a kingdom, perhaps they will follow our example and use the majlis. Aside from Elephanti military protection, they would be essentially their own nation, able to make their own descisions. However, if some wish to live in the Sultanates, we will not deny them that right either. Those who wish to join Elephantum will be offered a reduced 3-year citizenship plan, and will be admitted into any Sultanate they choose, and will have free religious freedom, and the ability to partake in the majlis like any other person in our nation."

Layarteb

24-09-2005, 03:51

RomeW

24-09-2005, 05:53

"From what I understand," said Hartian, "the Reichskanzler simply wants to maintain order and, Mr. Kościuszko has stated that Poland has no desire to break off its links- even politically- from Germania. We will agree with Reichskanzler Kübler that a semi-autonomous state is impossible under the current situation, but it won't be should Germania allow Poland to become semi-autonomous. Therefore we propose this:

-Poland shall stand down its arms and pay for any reparations that Germania requests as a result of their rebellion. The Roman Government will offer assistance in this matter.
-Germania grants Poland semi-autonomus status within its borders.

We believe this is a fair deal. Germania loses no territory (thus maintaining its internal networks), Poland gets to run its own affairs and this rebellion is over, thus allowing for the peaceful resumption of the Germanian state."

Celtayoshi

24-09-2005, 11:32

"That is an excellent idea, Sultan, however, whilst we would be willnig to offer neutral military protection for the Poles, I do not think they would agree to leaving their homeland. I am interested to know more of how the current government works in North Germania, perhaps Reichskanzler, you could outline how the Poles are currently governed, and exactly what sort of involvement they have in the running of Poland?"

Layarteb

24-09-2005, 13:37

Elephantum

24-09-2005, 14:19

"What if they do not choose to have Elephanti military protection? What independence can be gained by being under the military protection of another state? Essentially that state controls your will. It doesn't take much for them to put a few tanks into the area and say, 'You have to do this.' The Empire does not believe your intentions are truly as honest as you wish to convey. Either way, we do not believe the Poles will have the independence they seek. They will not have it under the Third Reich and under your government they will still have your own will, regardless. What are we to take that you will not rig the constitution, the elections, etc.? Are we to base this on faith? I am sorry but that will not be enough."

Hiraz continued taking the questions.

"If they do not want us to protect them, we will stand down. However, as a newborn nation, it would not likely be able to defend itself if it was attacked. We merely wished to make sure they are not attacked by Germania because they chose to leave.

You say you have no faith in our actions. What is there to assure us Germania will follow any demands of this conference. I do not have the faith to put the fate of the Poles back in the hands of those that slaughter them.

We understand many will choose to remain in Europe, but some would choose a new life and independence. The Roman plan would be ideal, but it has been offered to Germania before, and was denied. Massive sums of money, much more than the damage caused at the time, had been offered by the Romans and Carthaginians. It too was denied. If the Germanians decide to agree on the Roman Plan, we would support it. WIll you agree to the ROman pla, Reichskanzler?"

The Lightning Star

24-09-2005, 14:51

The delegate pondered for a moment. "Perhaps this is a good idea but I should add a third clause to it. All foreign nations, present and not present, will cease assisting the Poles in their revolution. They will not seek further insurgencies. They will make no claim to the land. And, most importantly, if they are found to be in violation of this, in ways such as but not limited to, funding the Poles, giving them arms, and speaking rhetoric of revolutionary, without the approval of the Third Reich, then said nation shall be in severe violation of this accord and be punished accordingly."

Mr. Kościuszko was quick to respond to the proposition by Layarteb and RomeW. "This is exactly what we seek. Sure, we have accepted aid from other nations because we had no other choice. If we are to be granted semi-autonomous status, we will turn away any nation trying to instigate further rebellion, and report them to the North Germanian authorities. We will give as much as we can to re-pay the Germanian government for the damage we have caused. Most importantly, we will severly punish whoever tries to continue this rebellion. They are a few. The majority of Poles, including myself, were forced into this conflict by the situation.

Also, there comes the issue of exactly what is to be considered "Poland". While a large majority of my Polish brethren wish to have all of our former lands under our control, we are willing to only keep Vovoidships where there is a Polish majority of at least 75%(due to the fact that every Vovoidship has a Polish majority, although in some the majority is VERY slim, as in 53% pole an 47% other). This map (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v626/Thelightningstar/Polska2.png)
the red shows what we want(as always, this is negotiable). While we would like control of Gdansk, for the purpose of getting our Grain Harvests up the Vistula so that they could be traded to other parts of the Reich, we know that obtaining Gdansk would be hard to achieve.

"Then there is the fact of movement. We have spoken with our Carthaginian friends, and we have agreed to pay 125% for the movement of Germanian nationals out of our land, if they choose to leave. That means we pay 100% of what they loose by having to move away, and an extra 25% so that they could begin anew. If they choose to stay, we will make sure that they do not come under harm, and while they will not be able to vote for their leaders(I will go over this below), they will receive all the rights that they would anywhere else(which, when you think about it, is probably more than the Poles will get).

"We are also willing to pay for the transport of Poles out of areas that are under direct Germanian control. While we are certain that this will be around at least 90%, we wish that no harm come to the 10% who wish to stay, and that they be treated like any other citizen of the Reich. They will not be able to vote for the Sejm of Poland, unless they travel to Warsaw and apply to be able to, so they will be like any other citizen.

"Now we come to the fact on how Semi-autonomous Poland will be run. We have come up with a Sejm split into three parts. The Economic Senat, which will be in Gdansk if Germania gives it to us, Krakow if it doesn't, will deal with economic matters, and will have a percentage of 75% representative elected by Poland, and 25% representatives chosen by North Germania to represent their interest. The Executive Senat will be situated in Warsaw, which deals with other issues of running a semi-autonomous state, will also be 75% Pole and 25% Germanian. Finally, we have the Relations Senat in Krakow if you give us Gdansk and Lublin if you don't, which will consist of 75% Germanian and 25% Pole. This way, you control our relations, and while this may seem a bit useless, it gives the Polish people the idea that they really control their relations with everyone else(which, of course, they don't). Please keep in mind that we will not have a military, which is what you would take care of, and that we would only have a small police force, which would take care of the day-to-day needs of policing a small country, as well as working to eliminate any who try to continue a rebellion against you.

"At the head of each Senat will be the Prime Minister of the Economic Senat, who is voted for by the Economic Senat, the Prime Minister of the Executive Senat, who is voted for by the Executive Senat, and the Prime Minister of the Relations Senat, who will be directly appointed by the North Germanian government. For a bill to pass, it must get the approval of the Prime Minister. If the Prime Minister says no to a bill, then there can be a vote of no-confidence and then they can vote for a new Prime Minister. The exception is the Prime Minister of the Relations Senat, who cannot be voted out of office, he can only be taken out by the North Germanian government. Prime Ministers also call each call each sesion of the Senat to order. Besides that, they are basically figureheads.

"At the head of the Sejm is the President, who is elected to a 4-year term by the Polish people. However, for him to become president, the North Germanians have to accept him. If they do not, their can either be another election, OR the President-to-be can enter into talks with the North Germanians. If those do not work, there is also the other option: For the 4 year term, the Germanians can control 51% of the Executive Senat and the Poles 49%. That way, the new President cannot do anything radical during his term. The President is like the Prime Minister of each Senat, except for the fact he is at the head of all branches. He must accept every bill passed by the Relations Senat, but he can vote "no" on bills from the Economic Senat and the Executive Senat(unless the Germanian Government specifically orders him to vote yes). If there is to be a vote of no confidence to get him out of office, however, 75% of EACH Senat must vote for him to get kicked out, AND the North Germanian government must give it's consent."

By this point exhausted from having to say so much, and being in such a weakened state as he was, the delegate decided to close his current speach.

"Of course, all of what is above is negotiable. However, we, the Lublin Sejm, worked since our creation a few weeks ago to create this, working non-stop night and day, and completly revamping our proposals will take much more time. As you have noticed from reading this, however, you still are still in control of Poland. Apart from a small police force, which will be trained in basic ways and armed in basic ways, you will be completely in control of us Military wise. You control our relations with everyone else, including other parts of the Reich(in the very rare chance that another area of the Reich tries to rebel). You will also have the last word on what happens in our country. And while you loose barely a small percentage of your control over us, the Polish people will swear their alleigance to you. If you ask, our young men will join your armies to fight our enemies no matter where they are, or who they are. We will fight with you to exterminate those who wish harm to the Reich. If you accept these proposals, Poland will stand by the Reich until the bitter end, if that ever comes."

Exhausted, Tadeusz collapsed in his chair. Aides rushed to him to make sure he was ok. After hearing that he was just tired, the Carthaginian government stood up to make their announcement.

"To furtherly convince the North Germanian government, the Four Republics have decided to grant you Northern Syria (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v626/Thelightningstar/Syria.png)(OOC: I'll list the provinces later if you accept, but for now just check the wikipedia article on Syria and match the numbers to the provinces), as well as give you $20 Trillion."

Layarteb

25-09-2005, 03:59

The Layartebian delegate sat quiet. She wanted to hear more before she gauged her response. As the conference bore on, she recieved a page on her secure phone, which was, more or less, a very advanced cellular phone with serious encryption. It required a finger print to turn on and activate. As it vibrated in her pocket, she pulled it out and flipped it open. It was a secure message from the Emperor. It read: "Blockaide of Kreynoria ends. Cotland & Kreynoria deal hatched. French Polynesia to Cotland." That was it. The goal was to keep all delegates in conferences up to date on the happenings. This would help them from getting caught off guard.

Hawdawg

25-09-2005, 16:48

Elephantum

25-09-2005, 19:11

Sharina e-Mumman proposed a third option. "Perhaps, if the Roman plan fails, the nations present here could help the Polish Republic defend themselves. Layarteb has been the source of much of our military equipment, so perhaps they would help the Poles. If each nation here would provide either funds or used equipment, an independent Polish military could be created. Although, Mr. Kościuszko, do you believe that, if this were to occur, you would have enough volunteers to defend yourself?"

Layarteb

25-09-2005, 19:38

"The Empire," the delegate was definitely wary of the trap she was in, "will not sell any arms or funds to the Poles whilst their mission is against that of the Third Reich. In addition, the Elephanti embargo of the Empire has resulted in the cessation of military sales to said nation."

Elephantum

25-09-2005, 19:59

"Perhaps I misunderstand you," Sharina replied, "but you do not want us to defend the Poles, but you do not want them to defend themselves. Would you have them unarmed and unprotected, to be slaughtered like cattle? We can guarantee 250 billion in funding for a Polish military over the next five years, along with used fighters and cargo planes, as well as several airfields, ports, and military facilties in Goa, not to mention Goa itself. Instead of criticizing each of our attempts to solve this, perhaps you should offer something."

Layarteb

25-09-2005, 20:03

"Yes you have misunderstood me. The Empire does not wish the Poles to continue their rebellion against the Third Reich. We have no problems with you defending the Poles, if they are in your own territory and if they ask for it. However, our questions have been raised on whether or not their 'decision' will be uninfluenced by your own government, should you and North Germania agree to stated conditions."

Elephantum

25-09-2005, 22:03

"We do not wish to rule over the Poles. Our military guarantee was merely intended to insure Polish independence. Trying to accomodate your desires, we instead asked you for help in establishing a Polish military, which you do not appear to want to do either. Unfortunately for all of us, you seem opposed to every plan for peace."

The Lightning Star

25-09-2005, 22:49

Prime Minister Wales had carefully listened to the arguements offered by both sides, the offer from Elephantum had him stirred so he rose to speak.

"Fellow delegates I have listened to the proposals by both sides and understand the passionate stances taken. Understanding the complexities of the inner workings of government I don't see how the semi-autonomous "Free Poland" is going to work. There are too many variables that can go wrong that doom this plan to failure. We still stand with North Germania in the fact this was/is an internal police matter. Nations sending subvert supplies and weapons to the Poles should actually be prosecuted under international law for blatantly trying to overthrow an active government, but we won't muddy the waters at this conference over that sticking point.

I feel the best alternative is the offer currently on the table for all Poles wishing for a "Free Nation" to take up residence in Gao Provience in India. Elephantum has been so gracious as to offer the land my advice to the Poles would be to take the offer, something like that doesn't come along everyday. I however do have a problem with the "security" issue of "Free Poland" in Gao. A neutral party not involved in this conflict needs to offer military protection to this country for a period of no less than 10 years. This will ensure that no one is using the "Defense" issue to steer policy inside the newly developed nation. Many nations exist on this planet that would be more than willing to provide a small defense force for "Free Poland" in Gao until a time in which they can establish there own Combat Elements."

Prime Minister Wales cleared his throat, sipped from his coffee cup and sat back down to await a response.

By now Mr. Kościuszko had re-gained his strength, so he decided to respond to this stinging insult, although the Prime Minister may not have realised it was an insult.

"Mr. Prime Minister, are you suggesting that 50 million people just pack up and leave their ancestral homeland, which has belonged to them for over a milennea? To abandon the great cities we created, the land that was once part of the greatest nation in Europe? This is an insult of the greatest magnitude! What if we asked your few billion inhabitants to move to an area the size of Sicily? A land far away from your ancestral homeland, and MUCH too small for your people? I have the feeling you would rather die. The same with us.

"All we have ever wished for is to have a say on what goes on in our lives. We are a peaceful people. We are content to farm our potatoes in harmony. However, as history has shown, when we are at risk, we will fight for our harmony. If our 50 million people were to go to Goa, not only would we all die due to lack of space and lack of resources, but we would also be on the other side of the WORLD. We would be in a strange climate, living next to a strange culture, and eating strange foods. The few that survived could barely be called Poles!"

Layarteb

26-09-2005, 01:29

OOC: Wow big f'up on my part. I kept referring to NG as the Third Reich. Sorry out there. Meant Fourth...

"The Empire is opposed to any plan of peace that gives the Poles weaponry to continue their fight, whether at home or abroad. If the Fourth Reich wishes to allow them semi-autonomy then it is up to them to decide whether or not they should be armed. If the Fourth Reich wishes to allow them to go to Elephanti lands then so be it. We will still not fund them as we do not believe they will stay dormant in their plans. In addition, we do not entirely trust your motives. You say you want to help the Poles reach independence, then you say you wish to allow them a homeland in your territory. Then you say you will 'give' them land if they want to have their own independent rule, with or without your assistance, if you want. Forgive me if I am pretentious but it seems too good to be true."

The Lightning Star

26-09-2005, 03:57

Rome West

26-09-2005, 04:54

OOC: Don't have time for a reply, but I just want to mention that my nation should simply be called "Rome". The "W" is just there so I could create the nation.

Celtayoshi

26-09-2005, 17:16

"Celtayoshi will deploy its International Peacekeeping Force to the Polish region for a period of up to ten years if it is necessary to bring about a resolution to this problem.
We believe it is unreasonable to ask the Poles to leave their land to set up a new live far away, however, it is equally unfair for North Germania to relenquish control of large areas of resource containing land, and land that can be used to house its sizeable population."

Elephantum

27-09-2005, 02:47

OOC: Sieg Heil, eh?

IC:
"If the Poles wish to leave Poland, as doubtful as it may be, the Federal Union of Carthage would be more than willing to accept immigrants into our nation. We have more funds and more space to hold them, you see. We require no funding from any outside nation, we would even be willing to pay for the transportation to our lands."
"We also have lots of space to accept them into our nation, however we do not have much spare land that can be completely separated from our territory without massive economic repurcussions. This war has not been good for the Dinar as it is. However, if space is the biggest problem, we might offer the Iranian provinces of Sistan and Baluchistan (1 province) and South Khorasan as another alternative, if sufficient numbers of Poles would leave. Perhaps the Celtayoshi Peacekeepers would make, if willing, an agreeable guarantor of independence?"

Hawdawg

27-09-2005, 03:31

RomeW

27-09-2005, 04:15

Hartian chimed in after PM Wales finished.

"I fully agree with Premier Nemeth on this issue. Asking the Poles to leave the homes they've held for generations is only asking for trouble. How would any of you like it if someone just told you to move 'out of the blue'?

Rome's stance here is that we resolve this in the best possible manner, with the Poles able to stay where they are and with North Germania able to keep their networks intact. If it is impossible for the stability of Europe for the Poles to remain in Poland then we may consider it, but I believe that the situation does not call for something that harsh."

The Lightning Star

27-09-2005, 13:01

Prime Minister Wales rose to respond to Mr. Kosciusko.

"Mr. Kosciusko many people have relocated to different lands throughout time for various reasons, faimine, drought, war, persecution, etc. An exodus to another location by your people would be no different in this sense. It would provide the means to an end of this tense situation, that quite frankly you don't seem open to compromise on.

We can provide a large portion of the logistical airlift support needed for this move and would fly as many sorties as needed to move you and your fellow Poles to Goa. Our country is willing to absorb the expenses incurred in the transfer, simply to try and avoid this situation erupting into an allout war. Please consider the offer, it seems the fate of your people may depend on it."

Mr. Kosciusko rose to respond to Prime Minister Wales.

"I would not agree with your choice of words, Mr. Wales. Calling our immigration to a foreign land an "exodus" leads one to the wrong conclusion, no? And if it were indeed an "exodus", it would be unwilling for one thing, it would cause MUCH more problems than it would solve, and eventually it would come back to haunt you in the form of an attempt to re-claim ancestral homeland.

"And you say "many people" have re-located. But tell me, unless they are refugees fleeing from brutal militias and the like, when has a people fled their homeland even though they have not been enslaved? Almost all of the exoduses you refer too were in Ancient Times! The Diaspora of the Jews, when Carthaginians were forced to flee to their colonies on the other side of the world(OOC: This is part of my history, not RL history), the list goes on.

"You also claim we aren't willing to compromise. We have said it time and time again: We are willing to negotiate! We have said it in nearly every single one of our statements. But asking one of the greatest civilizations in the history of Europe, a civilization which built the worlds largest country, was one of the first democracies, which shaped the world forever, to just pack up it's 50 million inhabitants to an EXTREMELY small state(have you even SEEN Goa? It's tiny. Really, REALLY tiny) is not something we are ever going to agree too. Not while we have the strength to say 'no'."

Celtayoshi

27-09-2005, 21:56

The Lightning Star

27-09-2005, 22:05

"That may be so Mr Kosciusko, and I agree with you that an alternative land is unreasonable, but you must understand that in accordance with International Law the territory of Poland, is technically a district of North Germania. We must know what exactly is so awful about their rule that you feel the need to cause a serious international incident over. Once this has occured we can negotiate to find a satisfactory compromise, which adequately deals with all your grievences."

"Very well then, I will list our grievences.

1. Supression of our Natural Rights of Life, Liberty, and the Persuit of Happiness.
2. The Massacre at the Wolnica, Kazimierz District.
3. The murders of many Poles, including children, for being related to mentally-unstable Polish Citizens and other reasons.
4. Not allowing us to have a say in our own lives.

And the list goes on and on and on. I trust that this list is sufficent for the time being?"

Layarteb

27-09-2005, 22:08

"In order for us to successfully iron out a treaty, every grievance must be aired. I understand you may view this as a long list but for the sake of avoidance of any future problems, all should be aired." The Layartebian delegate hoped to have the man put out each and every grievance so that they could all be addressed by the Fourth Reich.

Cotland

27-09-2005, 22:11

The Cottish Emperor had listened to the debate quietly, sitting back in his comfy chair while taking notes discreetly. He had a tendency to wait till the end before he voiced his opinion, something which allowed him to take all matters into the consideration and opinion. That had given his word quite some importance in the various discussions and conferences he had been involved in in the past. It would likely be equally important in this case. Still, though he remained silent didn't mean he didn't digest the information presented. In his mind, Poland was still a Germanian posession and, although the Poles were treated harshly, the actions taken by Germania were legal. The Poles had started the uprising, not the Germanians, who had treated the Poles with the respect and care one would expect for someone to treat their people. Although not too caressing, they surely had not been treated like dirt untill after the Poles started rebelling. Germania had been forced to take the actions it took out of the need to maintain national and internal security, and as such, the issue was a matter of Germanian internal affairs, and therefore nothing that the outside world should bother itself with. Therefore he was very interested in knowing why the Poles felt it prudent to start an international incident of this severity, if not just for the laughs of it. He sat up straight and listened with his full attention to the Polish response to the Celtayoshian question. He also made another mental note, which was to go talk to Prime Minister Wales of Hawdawg when they took a break from the bickering.

Celtayoshi

27-09-2005, 22:12

"Yes, thank you, details are essential for us to work properly on any problems you have. The current list is too vague, for example, what national rights of lie are being taken away, does it apply to only one section of the Polish community. Also, details of this massacres that have occured, and please ensure that sufficient detail is provided, as all these are serious accusations that will have to be addressed."

Cotland

27-09-2005, 22:26

"Very well then, I will list our grievences.

1. Supression of our Natural Rights of Life, Liberty, and the Persuit of Happiness.
2. The Massacre at the Wolnica, Kazimierz District.
3. The murders of many Poles, including children, for being related to mentally-unstable Polish Citizens and other reasons.
4. Not allowing us to have a say in our own lives.

And the list goes on and on and on. I trust that this list is sufficent for the time being?"
The Emperor checked his notes quickly, and found something interesting. The massacre at the Wolnica had occured only after the murder of not only Germanian soldiers, but also innocent Poles at a place called Stanislaw's Bakery. The massacre had also occured after the populace attempted to riot against the government, something that the Germanians had answered to in very much the same manner that the Cots liked to strike down riots in. Hit hard and fast! So the Emperor spoke up, his voice making everyone shut up and look at him. After all, hearing the Emperor speak up in the middle of a debate wasn't a everyday occurance. Also, he was one of the few heads of state in the conference. That gave him some weight to throw around.

"Mr. Kosciusko, correct me if I'm mistaken, but did the 'massacre' at the Wolnica occur only after the rebellion was a fact? Did not the people who lost their lives riot against the Germanians, who had taken necessary steps to defend its forces in Poland after the coldhearted murders of six Germanian police officers and nineteen innocent Poles, as well as injuring more than thirty Poles in a place in Krakow called "Stanislaw's Bakery"? Do you not imagine that the Germanians were taking steps to protect not only their own police officers and soldiers, but also the Polish civilian population against the so-called "Polish liberators" who have no second thoughts killing their own people as long as it takes out a Germanian?"

The Lightning Star

28-09-2005, 02:16

The Emperor checked his notes quickly, and found something interesting. The massacre at the Wolnica had occured only after the murder of not only Germanian soldiers, but also innocent Poles at a place called Stanislaw's Bakery. The massacre had also occured after the populace attempted to riot against the government, something that the Germanians had answered to in very much the same manner that the Cots liked to strike down riots in. Hit hard and fast! So the Emperor spoke up, his voice making everyone shut up and look at him. After all, hearing the Emperor speak up in the middle of a debate wasn't a everyday occurance. Also, he was one of the few heads of state in the conference. That gave him some weight to throw around.

"Mr. Kosciusko, correct me if I'm mistaken, but did the 'massacre' at the Wolnica occur only after the rebellion was a fact? Did not the people who lost their lives riot against the Germanians, who had taken necessary steps to defend its forces in Poland after the coldhearted murders of six Germanian police officers and nineteen innocent Poles, as well as injuring more than thirty Poles in a place in Krakow called "Stanislaw's Bakery"? Do you not imagine that the Germanians were taking steps to protect not only their own police officers and soldiers, but also the Polish civilian population against the so-called "Polish liberators" who have no second thoughts killing their own people as long as it takes out a Germanian?"

"The acts of Stanislaw were not what set off the rebellion, Mr. Emperor. It was the cold-hearted slaughter of all his living relatives. And seeing how Polish families are large indeed, that means around 50 innocent poles were executed in cold-blood. Children, pregnant women, poor farmers, all of them had no idea that Stanislaw was planning this erratic attack, yet all were hanged and their bodies left to dangle in front of the populace for days.

"And the Rebellion was not yet a fact. A group of Poles was trying to convince a group of Poles to rebel against the Germanians, yes. But seeing how the Germanians have such a well-trained military, they could easily have ended the situation nearly bloodlessly by arresting those who were trying to create a rebellion. They did not need to slaughter many times more in innocent civilians, which included the slaughter of my family which was oblivious to the rebellion. A civilized nation would not kill 10,000 innocents to get 100 guilty. 100 innocent to get 10,000 guilty, maybe, but not the other-way around.

"And we have another incident to put on our list of grievances: The so-called "Night of the OS" (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9353478&postcount=23). An entire town was slaughtered. 4,000 men gunned down. Not arrested. Slaughtered. None were given a chance to surrender. They took the women over the age of 17, put them in barns, and set them on fire. Their screams filled the night air. Would a civilized nation do this? Would a civilized nation commit such attrocities? I think not."

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