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War between Leafanistan and Saharistan! - Page 2

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Willink
21-05-2005, 20:32
I am sending the WNF- Eagle to dock in saharistan for diplomatic negotioations for the destruction of overbear.
Neoma
21-05-2005, 20:32
The pilots listened to the comms waiting for the reply from Saharistan International Airports main tower

"Uh tower did you hear us? we cant stay in the air forever... if you don't answer will be forced to turn back... and we wont return with the goods Please respond"
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Saharistan
21-05-2005, 20:33
To: Space Union

You may raise some good points so Ill give these demads intead:

* The government and entire establishment of Overbear are to be reomoved from power and either imprisoned or excecuted.

* The president of Overbear WILL be sent to Saharistan for excecution as our people want to see the dead body of the tyrant of Overbear.

* Overbear should pay compensation to ALL nations that fight it, we deserve their money.

* They can have their own new government that is to our own interests, but they CANNOT have a military anymore, they don't deserve any ability to ever wage war again.
McKagan
21-05-2005, 20:34
Are we ever actually gonna get out of the political stuff and actually invade?
Willink
21-05-2005, 20:35
We shouldnt make them pay for everything, Make them pay the families of poeple killed and infected by the chemical attacks
Space Union
21-05-2005, 20:36
To: Space Union

You may raise some good points so Ill give these demads intead:

* The government and entire establishment of Overbear are to be reomoved from power and either imprisoned or excecuted.

* The president of Overbear WILL be sent to Saharistan for excecution as our people want to see the dead body of the tyrant of Overbear.

* Overbear should pay compensation to ALL nations that fight it, we deserve their money.

* They can have their own new government that is to our own interests, but they CANNOT have a military anymore, they don't deserve any ability to ever wage war again.

That is better but heres to things I suggest changing:

*Overbear pays every nation only $10 million.

*Overbear will be allowed a token military, a small navy, and a small air force. This way then can also defend themselves. Also members of the coalition should come to Overbear's defense if he is attacked unjusticely.

These changes would work out fine with Space Union

President Harsimran Mann
Technocratic Republic of Space Union
McKagan
21-05-2005, 20:37
I think they should have to pay a percentage of what is spent by each military (say, 25%) to each military.
Leafanistan
21-05-2005, 20:38
I think they should have to pay a percentage (say, 25%) to each military.

I think it should stay a fixed number like 100,000 or something. We don't want them rising again.
Neoma
21-05-2005, 20:39
To: Space Union

You may raise some good points so Ill give these demads intead:

* The government and entire establishment of Overbear are to be reomoved from power and either imprisoned or excecuted.

* The president of Overbear WILL be sent to Saharistan for excecution as our people want to see the dead body of the tyrant of Overbear.

* Overbear should pay compensation to ALL nations that fight it, we deserve their money.

* They can have their own new government that is to our own interests, but they CANNOT have a military anymore, they don't deserve any ability to ever wage war again.

Being a very moral country i cannot allow the first and second demands to be enforced, i mean it wasn't the precedent of Overbares fault that you shot down Missiles Carrying Nerve agents over population centers

also you cannot enforce a country to not have a military, i mean that is just t asking to be invaded, instead i purpose that he be able to have a security force kinda like RL japans, and that they cannot do any actions that threaten you or your allies
Willink
21-05-2005, 20:40
Were should we assemble are coalition military force ??
McKagan
21-05-2005, 20:40
No, I meant...

Like, they have to pay every military in the operation back 25% of what they speant on the invasion.
Space Union
21-05-2005, 20:41
No making them pay 25% of their budget isn't fair for the people. The economy would collapse within days with the civilians suffering in the end. A situation similar to Germany after World War 1 will occur in Overbear. Instead, my nation will pay $20 million to each nation that got gassed by Overbear.

President Harsimran Mann
Technocratic Republic of Space Union
McKagan
21-05-2005, 20:41
Were should we assemble or coalition military ??

I have a destroyer, and the MFS Firefox.... look on the previous page for the specs on what it carrys.
Willink
21-05-2005, 20:43
I can supply 125,000 troops, aircraft, and a naval defence force(10-20 ships)
McKagan
21-05-2005, 20:43
No making them pay 25% of their budget isn't fair for the people. The economy would collapse within days with the civilians suffering in the end. A situation similar to Germany after World War 1 will occur in Overbear. Instead, my nation will pay $20 million to each nation that got gassed by Overbear.

President Harsimran Mann
Technocratic Republic of Space Union

Not 25% of their budget; 25% of what is spent invading them.

I think that's fair because some nations in the coalition may not even spend $20 mil on the invasion, while others may spend alot more.
McKagan
21-05-2005, 20:45
I can supply 125,000 troops, aircraft, and a naval defence force(10-20 ships)

I have all the armored vehicles we'll need.... well, alot of them, anyway.
Space Union
21-05-2005, 20:47
Not 25% of their budget; 25% of what is spent invading them.

I think that's fair because some nations in the coalition may not even spend $20 mil on the invasion, while others may spend alot more.

Very well than, my nation will pay up to $500 million to any nation that got gassed. No nation will even come close to spending $500 million on the invasion.

President Harsimran Mann
Technocratic Republic of Space Union
Leafanistan
21-05-2005, 20:48
Being a very moral country i cannot allow the first and second demands to be enforced, i mean it wasn't the precedent of Overbares fault that you shot down Missiles Carrying Nerve agents over population centers

They were aimed for population centers. His intention was to destroy civilians.
McKagan
21-05-2005, 20:48
When are we actually going to invade?
Neoma
21-05-2005, 20:49
They were aimed for population centers. His intention was to destroy civilians.

If my memory is what i think it is they were aimed at military installations.
Leafanistan
21-05-2005, 20:51
Do you condone the use of chemical agents against military installiations?
McKagan
21-05-2005, 20:51
I don't care what they were aimed at, there is no excuse for firing chemical warheads, and the fact still remains that his warheads fell into civilian areas.
Neoma
21-05-2005, 20:55
Do you condone the use of chemical agents against military installiations?

No, if that was called for, i only condem WMD use if when they are used soly for the purpose of killing civilians or if the civilian casualties would be so immense that it serves no real purpose... like i said i would have used Stealth bombers to deliver the Chemical weapons
Leafanistan
21-05-2005, 20:57
No, if that was called for, i only condone WMD use if when they are used soly for the purpose of killing civilians or if the civilian casualties would be so immense that it serves no real purpose... like i said i would have used Stealth bombers to deliver the Chemical weapons

Rephrase my friend, rephrase.
Neoma
21-05-2005, 21:01
okay fine fine

NO if i was Overbare i would have done the same

Like i said

I condemn WMD when civilians are the targets

-or-

If the civilian casualties would be so immense that i cannot force myself to us the WMD

Like nuking a city to kill a 1 star general...
Neoma
21-05-2005, 21:02
OOC: Tired of waiting

IC: The MFS Firefox sails first paralel to the beach, droping out it's 15 Amphibious vehicles, then it turns and beaches itself. The doors fly open, first out are the tanks, followed by APC's and then Hummers. Upon that, 5 ton trucks haul artillery and missile peices out, and a few ground troops walk out. This part of the beach is fairly empty, one soldier in the rear thinks, slightly before hearing explosions futher inland.


OOC Godmodeing dude seriously he needs to reply
Neoma
21-05-2005, 21:04
OOC I have to go to work so try not to get to ahead... :)
McKagan
21-05-2005, 21:07
I know he needs to reply, that's why I'm not going to post anymore with the invasion; just what I already have.
Penpusher Confederacy
21-05-2005, 21:12
"Tango Squadron approaching Saharistani waters, awaiting Saharistani Air Force cover. Echo Squadron, your transports have all been assigned an airport to land in. Remember that you are flying into civilian airports and not military airbases."

"Alright, Major. Remember that we are in a war zone and we are liable to be mistaken for Overbear forces."

"Colonel, we are aware. We will head back to the Confederacy."

*F-15 fighters suddenly make a 180 degree turn and head back for the mainland.*

"Echo Squardon entering Saharistan. Take appropriate heading towards your assigned airports."
Willink
21-05-2005, 21:28
150 miles off the coast of Overbear


Michael Hillen looks over the bridge of the WNF-Eagle; "Sir everything is in order, we have reports that McKagan amphibious force has just landed."
"Good, the operation is in order, deploy the SH-60 and Begin the ASW search." Suddenly a sound rumbled off in the distance. " What the hell was that ?", asked Hillen. "Sir, the WNF-Bangle has just struck a mine." "What ?" The frigate began to list, and zodaic rafts started to pull away, full of sailors. "Ready the rescue boats, and call Perry and tell him we have one ship sinking." "Yes sir", remarked Hillen, and he went to his quarters.
The Second Holy Empire
21-05-2005, 21:53
OOC: This has become extremely gay. He hasn't replied in so long and now he doesn't even have a chance for diplomacy? Last time he was logged in he had a blockade around Saharistan and around 2 powerful allies, now he's being invaded by some of those same allies? This is so stupid, you all can't destroy his invasion fleet and start invading his country (God knows how far away) without even communicating with him!

That being said..

IC: The Second Holy Empire made the Decleration of War against all nations invading Saharistan. NOT on Overbear. The 200,000 forces deployed are now leaving Saharistan on their way back home.
Halberdgardia
21-05-2005, 22:18
[OOC: Jesus Christ, I leave for a few hours to go see SW III and look what fucking happens...]

The Peacekeeping Zone, 1418 Zulu

"Captain Cracken, sir! We're receiving a message from the mainland!"

"Voice or text?"

"Text, sir. Official statement from The Office of The Presidency of the People's Republic of Saharistan."

"Goddammit. What does it say?"

"Bringing it up on your screen, sir."

Cracken's jaw dropped as he read the contents of the message.

"Jesus fucking Christ. He's out of his fucking mind!"

"SIR! We're reading multiple missile locks!"

Cracken whirled. "What the fuck?!"

"Exocets!"

"Goddammit! John! Call general quarters! All hands to battle stations, prepare for evasive maneuvers and countermeasure tactics! By God, John, I am NOT going to give that fucker al Zaraqwi the pleasure of seeing this ship go down! This is one of the most survivable surface ships in the world, and by God, those Muslim fuckers are not taking us down!" He turned back to face his commo officer. "Get me Larson." Cracken seized the radio microphone. "Captain Larson, this is Captain Cracken. Do you copy? Repeat, do you copy? We are reading multiple locks on our vessel, and it looks like someone's ready to fire on us. If you can find the source of the missiles, please relay that intel to us. Also, any air support you can provide would be great. Over."

He turned back to Stewart. "John, get our SH-60Rs in the air. They are free to engage in antimissile operations if they spot any missiles headed for the Valiant. Contact Leafanistan, ask if they have AWACS in the air and if our helos can get a feed from them. If they don't have them, then try the McKagan carrier. We need more intel. And get a message about this off to HQ. Things are about to get hot here."
McKagan
21-05-2005, 22:58
Larson turned back to his communications officer, he could actually hear the communications coming in now, since her was close to the outlet.

"It's the "Blessed Restraint" (OOC: that's the account name) Bravo Class destroyers Deimos and Lysander; they're a few miles away by now, i've got one of my Attack Helicopters on it, but I could call over up to 7 more from the amphibious ship."
McKagan
21-05-2005, 22:59
OOC: This has become extremely gay. He hasn't replied in so long and now he doesn't even have a chance for diplomacy? Last time he was logged in he had a blockade around Saharistan and around 2 powerful allies, now he's being invaded by some of those same allies? This is so stupid, you all can't destroy his invasion fleet and start invading his country (God knows how far away) without even communicating with him!

That being said..

IC: The Second Holy Empire made the Decleration of War against all nations invading Saharistan. NOT on Overbear. The 200,000 forces deployed are now leaving Saharistan on their way back home.

I know, i'm not going to invade anyone that's not even online. So thus, i'm deleting my post about the landing, for the record, the amphibious ship is still out to sea, but not with the destroyer.
Halberdgardia
21-05-2005, 23:10
The Peacekeeping Zone, 1507 Zulu

"We appreciate the help, Captain Larson. If we had authorization from HQ, our boys might join you, but we don't, so we're going to hang back for now. We'll keep you updated, and hope you'll do the same for us. Cracken out."

Cracken waved his flat hand across his throat to indicate that the commo officer should cut the connection. The commo officer nodded and toggled a switch on his console. Cracken turned to Stewart, who had just returned to the bridge.

"What it's looking like, John?"

"Well, Captain, we've shaken the locks for now. Evasive maneuvers and countermeasures helped us with that, and we're running silent deeper into international waters, pending a response from HQ. We sent off a message to them about the missile threat and the ultimatum, and got a brief reply back from them saying that they expect the President to make an official statement within the hour."

"Jesus Christ. That fucker al Zaraqwi just couldn't keep his goddamned mouth shut, could he? OK, here's what we do. We hold position here in the Peacekeeping Zone for now. We'll attempt to link up with any Leafanistani or McKagan vessels in the Peacekeeping Zone, as it's now obvious they're the only powers we can trust here. If their forces have moved into Saharistani waters, we stay out here. Either way, though, we're just waiting for orders. All hands are to stay at their battle stations on full combat alert. Keep me posted, John."

"Aye aye, sir."
McKagan
21-05-2005, 23:19
"No problem captain, we're gonna follow you out to sea for the time being. We've landed on an unoccupied island, set up a temporary harbor, and moved our artillery out. The Federation is also flying in several more helicopters and bringing 5 platoons of our new 'Summey Class' tanks in. If you need to resupply or want safe harbor for the time being, that's the place to be."

Larson walked off the bridge to the deck for some fresh air.
Willink
21-05-2005, 23:24
Dusk, 200 miles off coast of Saharistan

"Sir, we have missiles on radar", Alarms began to sound throughout the ship, and Captain smith Was dozing off,"Sir get up !" "What the fuck is it, im trying to sleep." " We have multiple missiles aimed at the Halberdgardia ship." "Holy shit, who was it ?" " It is some resistance group called the Blessed Restraint." "Ok Hillen, Fire Sea Sparrow Missiles and get me distpatch." "Yes sir."
McKagan
21-05-2005, 23:27
The Marines aboard Stryker once again man their grenade launchers, and .50 caliber machine guns in preparation to shoot down any missiles.

This was a tried and tested method from as early as WW2. In later wars, it was proven that alot of low tech weapons could do the job of a few hi tech gadgets that could be taken out with one shot.
Overbear
21-05-2005, 23:37
OOC: jesus im gone 1 day and 4 pages of posts. Let me get this out of the way...

1)I wont acnolage any space/adavanced beond curent technology items. Ive built the republic to use RL items that can be found, The idea of space weapons, super ships that launch thousands of missles or carriers that can hold more than 120 planes (curently the biggest carrier holds 114) I just cant see RPing around soryr

2)Alow me to catch up here..
Overbear
21-05-2005, 23:43
They were aimed for population centers. His intention was to destroy civilians.

ooc BS! read again, learn to comprehend english!

AIMED AT MILITARY BASES ONLY
Overbear
21-05-2005, 23:49
ooc.

Ok I have caught up, and I am floored by the sheer amount of godmodding going on by 3 people. Because of such, I regretfuly anouce I am removeing myelf from this story line. Atacks on a country, landing invasions, space whatever, destruction of civilians that were never IN the country in the first place (why would they be? overbear is a anti religion country) have all added up to a unplayable, and seriously out of control RP.


My regrets to the people who were keeping it realistic (Like saharistan, very well played btw) that this shall screw up your fun. However at this point after my last post on page 6, there has been no less than 14 pages of posts!, some without answer, some outright atacks with no real chance to reply.

Good RPing to you all

Alain, player of the republic of overbear.
Halberdgardia
21-05-2005, 23:53
Presidental Residence, Halberdgardia City, 1554 Zulu

"This is HNN reporting LIVE from the Presidental Residence in Halberdgardia City, where President Kir Kanos is about to make an official press statement regarding the erupting Saharistan/Leafanistan war."

President Kir Kanos takes the podium.

"Citizens of Halberdgardia, I come before you today to deliver a message: a message to you, and a message to those who would threaten us.

"Earlier today, the Halberdgardian government received a message from the so-called 'president' of Saharistan, Musab al Zaraqwi, routed to us through our peacekeeping vessel, the destroyer D.R.H. Valiant. al Zaraqwi demanded, and in no uncertain terms, that the Valiant must withdraw or face the threat of war.

"As a result, today, as per my orders, all Halberdgardian military forces have been put on DEFCON 1 alert and are at full military readiness for deployment; we are at hair-trigger readiness. And what reason does Saharistan give for such a threat? They claim to be 'tired of' our 'janus-faced approach to this conflict.' What evidence do they have for this? We have not issued any official diplomatic messages to their government since the Valiant's deployment, and if they were listening in on the Valiant's communications for provocative material, then they have committed a serious criminal offense, as she was a neutral peacekeeping vessel operating in international waters.

"Therefore I issue the strongest condemnation for Saharistan's threat, and the completely unprovoked missile threat from the nation of Blessed Restraint. Our vessel was operating in international waters OUTSIDE Saharistani territory, and made no action against the Blessed Restraint forces. To threaten a peacekeeping vessel with no provocation is absolutely unforgivable. As for Saharistan, with no apparent justifiable basis for their threat of war, it baffles us how such a threat could be made.

"Therefore, to the nation of Saharistan, and those misguided nations who would support her, I say to you: stand down ALL military forces threatening the Valiant and cease threatening our nation with war, and Halberdgardia will take no military action. If you refuse, the consequences will be swift and severe. With our nation's military forces at DEFCON 1, do not think we will hesitate in bringing our forces to bear.

"To the people of Halberdgardia and her allies, I say to you: you have proven yourselves to be the finest people in the world by supporting your nation in times of crisis, and are doing your nation the greatest of honors by electing to support your government and military in these times. There is hope for the future, and we will fight for it, and for a free, safe world!"

The President stays at the podium for a minute, accepting thunderous applause from the assembled crowds while Halberdgardian F-16 jets scream overhead, before stepping down.

"To our viewers at home that are just joining us, this is HNN live at the Presidental Residence in Halberdgardia City, where President Kir Kanos just issued an official statement to the government of Saharistan and her allies regarding the threat of war made against Halberdgardia. HNN Political Analyst Tom Schwarzkopf is in the studio. Tom, what is your outlook on this?"

"Well, I personally find this whole blustering threat from Saharistan ridiculous. Actually, there's a lot about Saharistan I find ridiculous. Like being stupid enough to go out on the world black market for WMDs and getting caught doing it. Calling themselves a 'People's Republic' when the nation is, in fact, run by a crazed dictator. Supporting 'the People's Front of Jerobia (PFJ) in their just cause of democracy against the dictatorship ruling Jerobia' when Jerobia's legitimate government is already a democracy! (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/93804/page=display_nation/nation=jerobia) Attempting to fight nations a hundred times their size in a senseless conflict. It's all a bunch of nonsense to me, and I can't see why anyone would support them."
McKagan
22-05-2005, 00:14
Overbear,

Please note that I realized what you meant by the invasion part, and have sense retracted that post so that the event never happened.

I also don't see (although i've missed a page or two) anyone using space "whatever."
The Second Holy Empire
22-05-2005, 00:36
This thread needs to be closed.
McKagan
22-05-2005, 00:47
Why, it's still an ongoing story, just not the one it was intended for; it's just as easy to keep everyone here as it is to start a new one.
The Second Holy Empire
22-05-2005, 01:00
Ok, then explain to me what the story is? All I see is a bunch of nations with bloodlust and no one to hate. Even when we had a good and balanced battle about to break out, everyone just sent in troops but no one made a move. Unless one of us goes crazy and attacks someone else for no reason -- this is pointless.
McKagan
22-05-2005, 01:06
Halberdgardia was threatened by Saharistan, my ally, and is being targeted by someone elses (who hasn't posted much today) missiles. So it's almost a 4 way war.

The last time I made a move and invaded someone in here I got called a god modder, so now i'm just using a destroyer.
Willink
22-05-2005, 01:21
Im the only on that attacked, anyhow here contiunes the story-


Several hours later- 100 miles off coast of Saharistan

[I] "What is are status report" "We were able to shoot down a stray missile.", said Hillen "Good". The Captian Stepped out of the bridge and looked over the sea. It was completely dark now, and the sea was starting to pick up. He looked about 400 feet away and saw Waves Rolling up against the Minesweeper WNF-Rochester."It's quite warm out. I wonder what's going on at NFC right now." He heard the roar of a SH-60 passing overhead, as it returned from its ASW duties."Sir !", one of the Radar operations cried out, we have a missile on radar, Silkworm type. It's aimed at......Us !" The missile flew over the sea and began the plunge to hit the WNF-Eagle. Suddenly a Sea sparrow missile screamed overhead and there was a large explosion in the air."This is the WNF-Greece, Missile down." "God bless you son", said Smith and returned to his seat on the bridge. "We should move in closer to shore, were it will be harder to find us." "Good, Increase speed to 28 knots and turn 84 degrees." The ship twisted and turned, and began to head towards shore.
Saharistan
22-05-2005, 01:47
The Peacekeeping Zone, 1507 Zulu

65 MIG-19s, 50 MIG-21s and 60 MIG-29 approach the Halberdgardian naval ship, Valiant.

All 175 Saharistani combat aircraft have been fitted with anti-shipping missiles and torpedos and some anti-AA missile rockets.

The Saharistani fighters now fall into attack formation as they approach the Valiant and the enemy ship come into the visual range of the pilots.

The first 30 jet fighters spread out in a line and then launch a missile each and all 30 missiles start heading for their target, the Valiant.

Within seconds, one side of the Valiant erupts into a series of fireballs and explosions, ripping through the Valiants decks and one missile manages to destroy one of the AA missile batteries on the forward deck of the Valiant.

Then 4 MIG-19s fire their rockets and 30mm guns at the bridge of the Valiant, blowing out the bridge and from the looks of it killing all of those who were in it.

By this time 2 of the Valiants AA missile batteries had become operational and fired their missiles, they manage to destroy 3 MIG-19s, 2 MIG-21s and 4 MIG-29s.

The second wave of attacks fired on to the decks of the Valiant, where many of the Valiants crew were on, either attempting to escape or trying to man the defences.

The next wave of Saharistani fighters takes out the remaining AA batteries after they manage to destroy a further 14 Saharistani planes.

The next thre waves of fighters fire wave after wave of missiles and one of the torpedos, causing an explosion on the side of the Valiant which causes the ship to start sinking.

Many of the Valiant's crew are now in the water and 5 MIG-19s fly over to open their 30mm MGs on the crew killing a large amount of them.
Cielonia
22-05-2005, 02:00
...The next thre waves of fighters fire wave after wave of missiles and one of the torpedos, causing an explosion on the side of the Valiant which causes the ship to start sinking.

Many of the Valiant's crew are now in the water and 5 MIG-19s fly over to open their 30mm MGs on the crew killing a large amount of them.

OOC: Godmode much?
Halberdgardia
22-05-2005, 02:02
From: President Kir Kanos of The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia

On May 21st, 2005, a date which will live in infamy, the Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia was suddenly and deliberately attacked by air forces of the People's Republic of Saharistan. The Islamic terrorists behind the attack nearly sank our peacekeeping destroyer, the Valiant, and would have no doubt succeeded had the Valiant's helicopters not fought to the death covering the heavily-damaged vessel's limping retreat to the uninhabited island now occupied by the McKagan Federation. Our losses were heavy. Though Captain Cracken and his XO, John Stewart survived with injuries, 230 of 380 crewmen of the Valiant were killed. The McKagan Federation's naval forces deployed quickly and saved one-hundred fifty crewmen from being machine-gunned in the water. As a result of the cowardly, unprovoked attack on the Valiant, the Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia DECLARES WAR UPON the People's Republic of Saharistan. As our nation mourns, our military rages. Rest assured, Musab al Zaraqwi, we will ensure that you do not live to regret the mistake you have made.
Saharistan
22-05-2005, 02:02
nope, as i will allow Halberdgardia to come up with the figures of his dead and all those stats.

I have ONLY listed my own losses in that attack.
Cielonia
22-05-2005, 02:03
OOC: I trust you had his permission to say that you sunk his ship. Usually it's up to the other guy to tell YOU what damage their forces take.
Saharistan
22-05-2005, 02:16
Message from the office of the Presidency of the People's Republic of Saharistan

To: Halberdgardia

The People's Republic of Saharistan in NO way feels uncomfortable with Halberdgardia's declaration of war against us.

You are not a strong nation and more importantly you ONLY have one ally, compared to the POWERFUL and LARGE allies that our great nation has!

It was YOUR fault, Mr. Kir Kanos, that your sailors lost their lives, you failed to obey our REASONABLE and JUST demand and you had deliberatly PROVOKED us!

By refusing to stay out of this conflict, you have shown how bloodthirsty and warstarved your nation really is!

President Musab al Zarqawi has ALWAYS been a man of peace and has ALWAYS had a preference for dialogue over conflict.

But when cowards such as you Mr. Kanos refuse such paths and provoke war, Saharistan will ALWAYS defend, with full force, it's independence and it's interests.

Sahartistan appeals directly to the people of Halberdgardia to overthrow the corrupt tyranny of the Kanos regime and free themselves so that they can avert the loss of their own blood and live in peace with us, as Saharistan is looking out for the interests of the people of Halberdgardia as well as our own.

From the President of the People's Republic of Saharistan

Musab al Zarqawi
Willink
22-05-2005, 02:22
Although i am not declearing war on Saharistan, i am requesting their permission to place anti-terrorist special forces there, and i will provide military support for Halberdgardia navy against missile attacks.

Saharistan-Mig-19s are way out of date{phased out by Russia in 1964 !] and i doubt they could take out an Arleigh Burke destroyer, heck any plane after built after veitnam could easily take them out.
Saharistan
22-05-2005, 02:27
Request denied Willink!

President Kiros calls those that attacked his ship 'Islamic terrorists', they were our air force, it was nothing but a slur by Mr. Kiros on us.

If you support Halberdgardia we will go to war on Willink!

Save yourself the trouble, DON'T BACK LOSERS!
Halberdgardia
22-05-2005, 02:29
Airspace above Baghdad, Saharistan, Valiant attack+12:00 hrs.

It was the middle of the night. The city of Baghdad gleamed in the darkness, or so it seemed from approximately 50,000 feet up. 12 F-117A Nighthawks screamed through the thin night air, unknown to the Saharistanis on the ground.

"Prepare Phase One."

With that phrase from the squadron leader, the Nighthawks attacked. Dropping their modest payloads of 14 bombs per craft (2 MK84 2000-pounders, 2 GBU-10 Paveway IIs, 2 GBU-12 Paveway IIs, 2 GBU-27 Paveway IIIs, 2 BLU 109s, 2 WCMDs, 2 Mark 61s), for a total of 168, the high explosives decimated dozens of targets throughout the city, including mobile radar stations, power stations, and AA installations. The city was in havoc now. Having dropped their bombs, the Nighthawks stood by to fight off any air cover. The real assault was about to begin.

The B-2 Stealth bomber Spirit of Halberdgardia was finally in position over the myriad lights of the gleaming city of Baghdad. The pilot checked their GPS coordinates and verified that they were in position for the attack. The pilot turned in his chair to look at his co-pilot, who doubled as bombardier. He gave the man a grim smile.

"Bomb the shit out of these Muslim fuckers, Charlie."

"Aye aye, sir." The co-pilot grinned as he threw a switch. With that, the B-2's payload of 40,000 pounds of high explosives, including 80 MK82s, 16 MK84s, 36 CBU87s, 36 CBU89s, and 36 CBU97s, dropped from the craft onto Baghdad International Airport. The airport had been taken over by the Saharistani air force as their main airfield, and was where most of the craft that had attacked the Valiant had launched from. It was also where the Saharistanis received their allies' supplies from. The bombs had a devastating effect, homing in on hangars; control towers; airstrips; fuel, weapons, and spare-parts depots; and maintenance bays. Cataclysmic explosions ripped through numerous parts of the airport as weapons, fuel, and other supplies exploded along with the planes. The F-117s then proceeded to strafe the areas not hit by bombs until MiG fighters began to show up at extreme ranges. But by this time the Stealth fighters and bomber had already begun the run back to allied territory. With the rest of the Halberdgardian Navy, along with elements of the Halberdgardian Army, on the way, the shit was about to hit the fan.

Later, a radio message was received from the rapidly disappearing B-2 bomber. The contents of the message were,

"That was for the Valiant, you motherfuckers!"
Willink
22-05-2005, 02:31
In this case..... WILLINK HAS DECLARED WAR ON SAHARISTAN.
Saharistan
22-05-2005, 02:40
Message from the office of the Presidency of the People's Republic of Saharistan

To: All allied nations

Last night, the cowards from Halberdgardia attacked our great city of Baghdad and destroyed around 28% of our military sites, including Baghdad airport.

Sadly, 19 technicians from the nation of Soviet Leaders were killed along with our own brave military personnel.

This attack was out of order and totally uncalled for, a blatant act of agression and imperialism.

We must all unite to fight the genocidal, fascist, bloodthirsty tyranny of Mr. Kanos.

I urge ALL great nations allied to Saharistan to start invasion and bombing preparations on the nation of Halberdgardia, with the aim of destroying their war machine and removing their tyrant from office!

To: Halberdgardia

In revenge for your evil attack, Saharistan has excecuted 19 citizens from Halberdgardia, who were residing in our nation.

Their blood is on YOUR hands.

Saharistan has launched 57 SCUD-B missiles at your nations capital, await the destruction of your nation!

From the President of the People's Republic of Saharistan

Musab al Zarqawi
Thelas
22-05-2005, 02:42
OOC: Hey Halberdgardia, sorry to brake it to you, but the 117s don't have any guns on them. The only stealths that have guns are the F22 Raptors, which would suck as F/Bs... just letting you know.
Saharistan
22-05-2005, 02:44
Saharistan continues to build up it's defences for the possible invasion on our nation by Willink and Halberdgardia.

Saharistani builders and technicians are now busy repairing the damage done by last nights air raid and priority is given to AA defences and telecommunications.
The Second Holy Empire
22-05-2005, 02:50
OOC: Hahah ok I was proved wrong :cool:

IC:

Open Transmission from The Dominion of the Second Holy Empire:

The ally of The Second Holy Empire, The People's Republic of Saharistan, has been attacked for the mere act of defending its own waters from the imperialistic nation of Halberdgardia.

The forces en route home from the al Zarqawi airport groaned as word reached them of the new hostilities. They are on their way back.

The People's Republic of Saharistan will not be a victory of for the expansionist Halberdgardia leaders. War has been Declared from the lips of the Emperor himself on both the nations of Halberdgardia and Willink.

Death will come to you swiftly!

The terrorist training centers have been re-activated and propaganda is rampant. The effects are already being seen -- a number of Halberdgardia civilians were attacked as a carbomb exploded in an area of The Second Holy Empire, near the Halberdgardia embassy.

The 200,000 strong military being deployed is only armed with the standard M-16's and the supplies they carry on their backs. However, open supply lines will ensure the arrival of more advanced defense systems as supplies left the country immedietly. The troops are under the command of Saharistan until commanders sent up appropriate headquarters.


-The Emperor of the Second Holy Empire
Saharistan
22-05-2005, 03:32
Thanks for you support, Second Empire!
P3X1299
22-05-2005, 03:45
To: Saharistan
From: P3X1299 Department of Defense

We are willing to ship you a few thousand SKS carbines and several million rounds of 7.62x39mm ammunition to fire with them. We have no interest in getting our armed forces involved in your confronation at this time, however you can count on us for continued shipment of supplies.

Sincerely,
Admiral Nelson McCloud
Willink
22-05-2005, 04:07
1 Am, off coast of Saharistan


"Sir Systemchecks are finalized." "Good Mcarthy, continue on your flight path." I have launched 10 Tupolec Tu-22M Backfire Semi- Nuclear Cabable Bombers, Escorted by 20 MIG-29's to launch an attack on the Baghdad airport. My bombers have 5 AS - 16 Kickback Missiles with nuclear tips(Cause explosion about the size of a football field)each.The MIG-29M is actually a new vehicle exhibiting longer range, state-of-the-art airborne equipment, fourfold redundant, three-channel, fly-by-wire system, higher weapon load and extended range of carried weapons. They have these weapons mounted on them- 2 AA-12 long range missiles(Very similar to US AMRAAM but with longer range) 4 AA-11 Medium-short range missiles(Very advanced IR system, much better than Sidewinder and a considerable shock to the west at the time) And a payload of 2 AS - 14 ASM missiles to attack airfield. I would think twice as the MIG-29M should be enough to take down any fighter in your arsenal.
(The best your MIG-19's can carry is AA-1 missiles and AS-7 ASM missiles.)

Pics- MIG-29M (http://www.mil.se/pfp/baltlink/phimg/phday16/Webpub/Medium/mig29m.jpg)
TU-22 (http://www.airwar.ru/photo/tu22m/tu-22.jpg)
McKagan
22-05-2005, 04:13
It was late.

"This is Flight 338 out of 'Camp: Flashpoint'" were the first words out of the mouth of the lead escort as he pulled his F22 up under the large B52 that was headed for Baghdad.

As anti aircraft fire exploded all around the massive group of 20 B52's and 50 F22's, the lead pilot calmly came over the radio. "This is your Captain speaking. Today we expect mild turbulance and a chance of anti aircraft fire from muslim ragheads. But since when could those assclowns actually hit something? Our inflight movie is 'Welcome to the Jungle' staring Axl Rose. Enjoy."

Those were the last words, shortly before "Welcome to the Jungle" was put on the fleetwide MP3 line.

The B52's climbed as the F22's dropped down through the clouds. Firing off missiles and normal fire at enemy helicopters and planes, insuring almost total dominance. AA gun emplacements were soon overroad.

Then, the skies opened.

As the last pilots were cornering on the far side of the city, fireballs of napalm and high explosives impacted the city. Almost all infrastructure would be whiped out, undoubtidly.

As the B52's turned for home and the F22 pilots pulled up through the clouds...

IT'S GONNA BRING YOU DOWN, HA!

Losses

8 F22's
Willink
22-05-2005, 04:14
Mckagen u at war with em too ?
McKagan
22-05-2005, 04:16
Mckagen u at war with em too ?

They attacked my ally, so I shall unleash hell.
Willink
22-05-2005, 04:19
When they reply, after THREE attacks on the airport, i would doubt there would be much of anything left there.
The Second Holy Empire
22-05-2005, 04:20
1 Am, off coast of Saharistan


"Sir Systemchecks are finalized." "Good Mcarthy, continue on your flight path." I have launched 10 Tupolec Tu-22M Backfire Semi- Nuclear Cabable Bombers, Escorted by 20 MIG-29's to launch an attack on the Baghdad airport. My bombers have 5 AS - 16 Kickback Missiles with nuclear tips(Cause explosion about the size of a football field)each.The MIG-29M is actually a new vehicle exhibiting longer range, state-of-the-art airborne equipment, fourfold redundant, three-channel, fly-by-wire system, higher weapon load and extended range of carried weapons. They have these weapons mounted on them- 2 AA-12 long range missiles(Very similar to US AMRAAM but with longer range) 4 AA-11 Medium-short range missiles(Very advanced IR system, much better than Sidewinder and a considerable shock to the west at the time) And a payload of 2 AS - 14 ASM missiles to attack airfield. I would think twice as the MIG-29M should be enough to take down any fighter in your arsenal.
(The best your MIG-19's can carry is AA-1 missiles and AS-7 ASM missiles.)

Pics- MIG-29M (http://www.mil.se/pfp/baltlink/phimg/phday16/Webpub/Medium/mig29m.jpg)
TU-22 (http://www.airwar.ru/photo/tu22m/tu-22.jpg)


Please, not only are you a tiny country, but with an income tax of only 33% and the military not even being one of your top 3 priorties, where do you come off with that kind of technology? Or do you think all countries the size of New York have the military of the entire US? I don't think this attack should be taken seriously.
McKagan
22-05-2005, 04:21
After my carpet bombing almost no life could be left, period.

We had one strategic strike, you hit the airport, and I sent the whole city back to hell, and I can do it to any city in the country.
Willink
22-05-2005, 04:24
Holy empire stop whining, it is all standard Russian Equipment developed in the late 80's to mid 90's and go learn somthing, my country is a little larger than sweden and look at their Incredebly capable Air force.
The Second Holy Empire
22-05-2005, 04:34
Terrorist cells have taken to the news of the bombing of Saharistan with vengence.

--News Alert--

A unidentified private aircraft was identified flying over the land of Willink towards one of the country's most populous cities. Willink's intelligence forces aprehended a known terrorist leader just hours before and have since learned that the aircraft was one of three that were bought through this organization. The other two have been recovered. As the aircraft enters the city, its expected target is a large government facility that relays intellgence from the war in Saharistan. The government has not yet taken action against the aricraft but time is of the essence.
McKagan
22-05-2005, 04:41
Realizing that the terrorist training facilities are becomming a problem, the McKagan Federated Airforce (MFAF) decided to eliminate all the known sites.

It's late, but the Air Force likes operating late.

All seems normal inside the complex, a few security personnel stand around, but none very heavily armed.

Off in the background, a small laser dot appears on the side of the main building in the complex. A few minutes later, hells gates open.

With combined naval gunfire, Airforce Napalm Strikes, and artillery, the base is bombarded.

Losses

1 F15
Willink
22-05-2005, 04:41
Early today, In Willink (capitol) several unkown aircraft entered Airspace in willink, presumably as suicide planes. 4 MIG-31's were scrambled, and were able to shoot down 1 plane. Of the other two planes, one hit governmental offices, killing at least 1,700 civilians and Military personell and the other missed its target, and crashed into an apartment complex, killing anywere between 5,000-10,000 civilians. This act of Cowardness will not be tolerated, and I am looking into the origin of the planes.


President Ian Rousell
The Second Holy Empire
22-05-2005, 04:42
Holy empire stop whining, it is all standard Russian Equipment developed in the late 80's to mid 90's and go learn somthing, my country is a little larger than sweden and look at their Incredebly capable Air force.

First of all, your spelling and grammar is that of a third grader, particularly how you like to capitalize all the wrong words. As for the size of your country, it is only a few days old! You have to keep this realistic! Yes, and Sweden also hasn't participated in a war in over two centuries. Also their military expenditures are only 1.7% of their GDP! So do everyone a favor and shut the fuck up.
Willink
22-05-2005, 04:44
Mcklarken i am requesting a meeting of our naval forces.



Oh and Holy empire, Sweden has one of the most capable air forces in the world, retard.
McKagan
22-05-2005, 04:49
Mcklarken i am requesting a meeting of our naval forces.


Negative.

Our naval forces are operating under silent running conditions and radio blackout to prevent inland missile attacks.

Wait until we destroy the rest of the infrastructure.
The Second Holy Empire
22-05-2005, 04:55
Mcklarken i am requesting a meeting of our naval forces.



Oh and Holy empire, Sweden has one of the most capable air forces in the world, retard.


What does capable mean? I have looked at the world's top 10 air forces, and on no one's list did I see Sweden. So it may be "capable" but is is under the US, UK, France, Japan, China, Russia, Isreal, as well as others which I have forgot from the list.

Here (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread74749/pg1) is just one forum, by no means official, yet it is unbiased and proof that at least the general population does NOT consider Sweden to be one of the world's best. So until you have anything to back up your statements or refute mine, you are wrong.
Willink
22-05-2005, 04:55
The rest of our navy is being deployed to the region.
McKagan
22-05-2005, 04:57
Artillery forces begin the systamatic destruction of every missile unit in Saharistan

A report from the frontlines

Several Summey-class main battle tanks speed by the camera as we see a "GSRN" Hummer in the background with a reported in front of it.

"The Allied forces here are battleing enemy forces. It's not clear what the nation of origin is, but I can verify that the allies are pushing a hole in the lines! I repeat, the allies are prevailing!"

A few allied soldiers walk away from the lines, obviously shaken from major fighting. A lone sniper bullet impacts one in the shoulder, nearly taking his head off.

"Sniper in the treeline!" is called by a gung-ho Marine calmly walking through the grass with a XT-8 fireing up into the trees.

"DOWN!" he yells as a massive napalm strike annialates anything on the hill.

And in a late breaking story, the private military company 'Combatant Operations' has flown in several platoons of Mercenaries who have captured several members of the 'deck of 52' unit. The Deck of 52 are top ranking officials and cilvians throughout the region.

We'll keep you posted.
McKagan
22-05-2005, 04:59
What does capable mean? I have looked at the world's top 10 air forces, and on no one's list did I see Sweden. So it may be "capable" but is is under the US, UK, France, Japan, China, Russia, Isreal, as well as others which I have forgot from the list.

Here (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread74749/pg1) is just one forum, by no means official, yet it is unbiased and proof that at least the general population does NOT consider Sweden to be one of the world's best. So until you have anything to back up your statements or refute mine, you are wrong.

Sweden has some of the best pilots in the world, but they don't spend very much in their military so it isn't rated very well.

I'm also surprised China made the list, as most of their Air Force is surplus Soviet designs.
HailandKill
22-05-2005, 05:04
OOC:
WOW, go paintballing for a whole day and this thread goes from like 4 pages to 22. Geez, thats alotta posts and im pooped from reading them but anyway....Oh i also said i reply when leafanistan did so here it is. Its short but its 1200AM EST and i am dead tired. (sorry if my spelling sucks)

IC:
In response to all this craziness, aka using chem weapons, the nation of hailandkill pledges ALL support to sahrinistan and its allies. The fact that nations have supported Overbear after they have attacked with intent of loss of life on a large scale is disgraceful. Also major threats on soveriegnty and invasion has tipped the scale to join. Tell us what you need and we will help you in anyway possible.
Concador
22-05-2005, 05:18
ooc-I was away for a day and almost twenty more pages were posted...can s/o tell me what happend from pg 14 (I made it six pages before I gave up ;) ) untill here. [Specifically: did overbear ever respond to my original attack?] Please, who invaded and what troop movements have been done (advances/retreats)?
McKagan
22-05-2005, 05:18
GSRN Newsbreak!

In response to the large amounts of nations joining this conflict the Federation Assembly has decided to begin an immidiate withdrawl of all ground forces.

In other news "Combatant Operations", the "no red tape allowed" type private military organization has stepped up operations in the area. Some reports say they have already earned in excess of $250,000,000 since last month.

It is reported they have been using terrorist tactics, but we've not been able to verify it yet.

We do know however that a large command vessel of theirs has arrived and has been launching and recieving helicopters with prisoners aboard. We'll keep it covered.
McKagan
22-05-2005, 05:21
ooc-I was away for a day and almost twenty more pages were posted...can s/o tell me what happend from pg 14 (I made it six pages before I gave up ;) ) untill here. [Specifically: did overbear ever respond to my original attack?] Please, who invaded and what troop movements have been done (advances/retreats)?

He responded, but decided to drop out.

I invaded him prior to that, though.

Halberdgardia was attacked and has since then joined me in a complete arial annialation of Saharistan.

I'm in the process of pulling all government ground troops out, but a private military company has stepped up operations.
The Second Holy Empire
22-05-2005, 05:21
As the Emperor attempts to go back to his palace to sleep, he is horded by a mop of reports for news of the war effort:

"Oh, Most holy Emperor who I would die for in a moment! Tell us if you will of the news from the war! We have heard rumors of heavy bombing in Sahrinistan, is this true?"

"My most loyal and honorable citizens! Bombs do not win wars! Although I must retire for the night, I will leave you with this. These cowardly attacks have been mainly targeted at civilians and the infrastructure of Sahrinistan. We still have 200,000 forces entrenched throughout the country, that number doesn't even count the over 300,000 Sahrinistani troops, and deadly traps are being set for the warry foot soldier! Though they have shown they can press a button to release a bomb, they do not have the man power to take the country! Once they enter our environment, the war will be ours! I can only inspire you to do what you must to turn the tide! Five million will be awarded to the families of any suicide bomber! We still have in the upwards of one million troops at home and if we enact the already compulsary military service, we will be able to throw millions more into the mix. This battle is far from over..."
McKagan
22-05-2005, 05:29
GSRN NEWSBREAK!

Federation Command has reversed the decision to pull all troops out!

That's right folks! A few moments ago a full brigade of more tanks stormed through the river valley. All of the enemy forces in this area appear to be falling back, although heavy resistance is still expected; this war isn't as bloody as one would think.


Another Bomb Run

We here at GSRN can't believe this! A complete flight wing of B52's just burned down all that was left of Baghdad, or so it appears! A few moments ago a wall of NAPALM rained down upon the city. The rivers of napalm are flowing through the streets! Oh my god! We've got to get out of here! Call in an ComOp's airlift!
Willink
22-05-2005, 05:32
Dear peoples of McKagan, i will be sending 175,000 soldiers to your current defensive position outside of Saharistan. and please stop attack Saharistan, there not even on !
Willink
22-05-2005, 05:39
We need to make a new post "McKagen,Halberdgardia, and Willink vrs 2nd Holy empire and Sharistan.
McKagan
22-05-2005, 05:42
Dear peoples of McKagan, i will be sending 175,000 soldiers to your current defensive position outside of Saharistan. and please stop attack Saharistan, there not even on !

See,

That's the point of using the media. No real progress is made, so it's not godmodding, but yet it keeps the story moving by having constant combat.

I currently have 200,000 soldiers active.
Willink
22-05-2005, 06:00
Early morning, onboard WNF-Eagle

"Sir, we have an Unkown Helicopter Incoming." "Very well, can you identify it ?" " It appears to be a Civilian Helicopter." "Send a message out to it." "Ok. Warning, Incoming helicopter, please leave this airspace immedietly, or you will be fired upon."The captain walks over, and takes a look at the radar."What is a Civilian heli doing flying over the ocean at 3AM ?" "I have no idea." The helicopter is a small, Little Bird type, painted white with yellow stripes. "He's not turning around sir." Smith looks over at the weapons system command console."Son, ready the Gatling.". The heli contiues flying toward the eagle."What the fuck is it doing ?" Suddenly the heli opens fire with what appears to be a 30MM cannon mounted on the side."Holy shit, open fire! open fire!" Gunfire sprays the deck and 2 men talking are caught by suprise, 1 is hit in face and his head explodes all over side of ship the other one falls to the deck, motionless." Fuck, shoot it down !" Gatling fire erupts, and a massive fireball erupts 200 feet away, only 30 feet above the ocean."We have two men down sir." "Shit, tell Oak to go clean it up. Did we take any damadge ?" "Only light structural damadge on the outside." "Put the fleet on red alert, and call command and report the incedent." "Yes sir",replied the salior, and walked over to the radio.
Willink
22-05-2005, 06:34
Bump
Halberdgardia
22-05-2005, 06:51
To: The People's Republic of Saharistan and The Dominion of the Second Holy Empire
From: Kenix Kil, Secretary of State, The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia
Re: Saharistan's Ridiculous Allegations

I laughed when I saw your ridiculous messages. I shall delight in tearing your illogical statements apart slowly and methodically.

Message from the office of the Presidency of the People's Republic of Saharistan

To: Halberdgardia

The People's Republic of Saharistan in NO way feels uncomfortable with Halberdgardia's declaration of war against us.

Were you supposed to? I was unaware of this.

You are not a strong nation and more importantly you ONLY have one ally, compared to the POWERFUL and LARGE allies that our great nation has!

Of course we are strong. We are not large, but our military is advanced for our size. And, as you can see, my nation has more support than you think.

It was YOUR fault, Mr. Kir Kanos, that your sailors lost their lives, you failed to obey our REASONABLE and JUST demand and you had deliberatly PROVOKED us!

So suddenly a destroyer acting as an observer and operating in INTERNATIONAL waters outside your territory with no intentions of any military action on EITHER side is an act of provocation against you? Your absurdity has reached levels I have previously not thought possible.

By refusing to stay out of this conflict, you have shown how bloodthirsty and warstarved your nation really is!

If we wanted war with your nation, we would have simply joined Leafanistan at the beginning of the conflict.

President Musab al Zarqawi has ALWAYS been a man of peace and has ALWAYS had a preference for dialogue over conflict.

Tell that to the families of the 230 men who died as a result of your nation's completely unwarranted and unprovoked assault on the Valiant.

But when cowards such as you Mr. Kanos refuse such paths and provoke war, Saharistan will ALWAYS defend, with full force, it's independence and it's interests.

Again you accuse us of provoking war, when it was YOUR forces that started the conflict between our nations!

Sahartistan appeals directly to the people of Halberdgardia to overthrow the corrupt tyranny of the Kanos regime and free themselves so that they can avert the loss of their own blood and live in peace with us, as Saharistan is looking out for the interests of the people of Halberdgardia as well as our own.

As if the people of Halberdgardia would actually deign to listen to the ramblings of a dictator with an unstable mind. I personally find it rather ironically amusing how you accuse Halberdgardia of being a "corrupt tyranny" when your own nation lacks democratic freedoms in any form.

Having finished dissecting those incoherent ramblings, we move on to your next message, the one you issued following our strike on Baghdad.

To: All allied nations

Last night, the cowards from Halberdgardia attacked our great city of Baghdad and destroyed around 28% of our military sites, including Baghdad airport.

Oh, so we attack legitimate military targets in your capitol and suddenly we are "cowards"? Honestly, I think you just made that up in your blind rage that we were able strike the heart of your nation at will.

Sadly, 19 technicians from the nation of Soviet Leaders were killed along with our own brave military personnel.

That is the risk of being in a war zone, unfortunately.

This attack was out of order and totally uncalled for, a blatant act of agression and imperialism.

If our bombing of Baghdad was "uncalled for," then what does that make your attack on the Valiant?

We must all unite to fight the genocidal, fascist, bloodthirsty tyranny of Mr. Kanos.

I fail to find any hint of genocidal, fascist, bloodthirsty, or tyrannical indications in the Halberdgardian government. Why is that? Oh yes, it is because those qualities are a perfect match for your own government.

I urge ALL great nations allied to Saharistan to start invasion and bombing preparations on the nation of Halberdgardia, with the aim of destroying their war machine and removing their tyrant from office!

Perhaps you ought to work on defending your OWN capitol before going about attempting to invade other nations. Or do we need to send the Spirit of Halberdgardia on another whirlwind trip to Baghdad to remind you just how pathetically outclassed your forces are?

To: Halberdgardia

In revenge for your evil attack, Saharistan has excecuted 19 citizens from Halberdgardia, who were residing in our nation.

Their blood is on YOUR hands.

This is perhaps one of the best lines I read. You see, this scenario you describe is an absolute impossibility, as no citizen of Halberdgardia would deign to enter the godforsaken spit of land you call your country. Therefore, we are afraid that you have mistaken someone else's citizens as ours. And therefore, their blood is on YOUR hands. Dreadful shame.

Saharistan has launched 57 SCUD-B missiles at your nations capital, await the destruction of your nation!

So much for "not seeking WMDs." And by the way, we thought it appropriate that you know that your attack was a miserable failure. All 57 missiles were intercepted and destroyed by the Arleigh Burke-class destroyer D.R.H. Swift Justice long before they ever came close to Halberdgardian soil. Not that you deserve to know, but the Swift Justice was also aided by F-16s from the carrier D.R.H. Halberdgardian Vengeance. We also thought you ought to know that this attempted use of WMDs against our nation clears our allies for use of WMDs against your nation. We hope you enjoy your second helping of nerve agents.

Now that your second batch of illogical nonsense has been dealt with, we move on to your only-slightly-more-rational ally of The Dominion of the Second Holy Empire.

Open Transmission from The Dominion of the Second Holy Empire:

The ally of The Second Holy Empire, The People's Republic of Saharistan, has been attacked for the mere act of defending its own waters from the imperialistic nation of Halberdgardia.

Apparently you don't comprehend the situation here. But being an ally of the psychotic and insane dictator of Saharistan, that is to be expected. You see, your ally attacked us first, with no declaration of war, which technically makes his attack an act of terrorism under U.N. regulations, and, more importantly, with no justifiable reason, killing 230 of our men. That is not something to be taken lightly.

The forces en route home from the al Zarqawi airport groaned as word reached them of the new hostilities. They are on their way back.

You could save yourself the bloodshed and money and just keep them headed back home.

The People's Republic of Saharistan will not be a victory of for the expansionist Halberdgardia leaders.

Not if we have anything to say about it. In fact, we're off to a rather good start. And be advised: our war is not one of conquest, but of self-defense. A distinction you seem to be unable to grasp.

War has been Declared from the lips of the Emperor himself on both the nations of Halberdgardia and Willink.

Excellent. I hate it when leaders make their underlings do their dirty work.

Death will come to you swiftly!

Again, we sincerely doubt this.

The terrorist training centers have been re-activated and propaganda is rampant.

It's a pity that your nation must resort to terrorism. Can you not fight under the Geneva Convention, or is terrorism the only way you think you can win?

The effects are already being seen -- a number of Halberdgardia civilians were attacked as a carbomb exploded in an area of The Second Holy Empire, near the Halberdgardia embassy.

I retract my previous statement about you being slightly more rational than your ally, as you both seem to be fond of claiming statistical impossibilities as fact. There is no Halberdgardia embassy in Saharistan, and never has been. Our sympathies to the poor souls your fool suicide bombers somehow mistook for our non-existent diplomats.

The 200,000 strong military being deployed is only armed with the standard M-16's and the supplies they carry on their backs. However, open supply lines will ensure the arrival of more advanced defense systems as supplies left the country immedietly. The troops are under the command of Saharistan until commanders sent up appropriate headquarters.

Excellent. Our 25,000 units of M1A2 Abrams armor will enjoy crushing your infantry and the ruins of the city of Baghdad under their treads.

We hope you have enjoyed this complete and utter rebuttal of both your nations' absolutely absurd attempt at propaganda.

Kenix Kil
Secretary of State
The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia
Penpusher Confederacy
22-05-2005, 07:00
OOC: This thread is pointless. It's a load of godmoding. Nations with less that 100 million people with massive armies, massive air forces, massive navies... Just let this thread die. It's utterly pointless there's only a few people who have posted here who didn't godmode in this RP.
The Celsanids
22-05-2005, 07:05
OOC: I'm with the Pushers here. Let it go, and take some time to learn about how real armies actually work before throwing out nations of 10,000,000 people with more main battle tanks than the US Army.
Saharistan
22-05-2005, 14:57
To: Halberdgardia

We did NOT use chemical or biological warheads in our SCUD-B missiles, they were armed with conventional warheads ONLY!

However after your nerve agent thread, if you desire to use WMDs on us then we shall urge ALL allies of Saharistan to use their WMDs including nuclear waepons.

Saharistan has now declared that it shall attempt to obtain WMDs and when we get our first nuclear bomb, the capital of Halberdgardia will become one green radioactive hole in the ground.

Your population deserves no less.
Willink
22-05-2005, 15:01
Hey Halberdgardia, he is sorta right, no way you can have 25,000 tanks when your countries size is only 12 million, but guys, no one else has done godmodding, i didnt know sending half your army was godmodding. No one said 10 million.(except Brenden land)I diddnt know this was godmodding-Willink-175,000 men, Mckagen-200,000 men,Saharistan-155,000 excluding armed civilians, and holy empire 200,000 men. and the rest of your so called "allies" havent done anything except watch. Including Halberdgardia we should outnumber you. Were are Soviet lands and space union protecting you now ?
Willink
22-05-2005, 15:04
Saharistan you gotta report the conditions of 2 more air attacks on Bhagdad.Go look a page or 2 behind. Oh and ill let you know that I have 50 Nuclear missiles stored in Risban, So if you attack him i will turn your entire country to a wasteland, so please stick to using conventional weapons.
Saharistan
22-05-2005, 15:12
Not if Halberdgardia uses them first.

Besides all our allies combined have many more WMDs than you two, plus both Willink and Halberdgardia have populations between 10-15 million, and our allies have much larger populations, so if WMDs are used, both your populations will be wiped out at a faster rate than Saharistan and our allies.

Besides, are you willing to risk allowing your nations population to be wiped out just to defend the imperialistic and bloodthirsty desires of Halberdgardia.

Saharistan acted in self defence, please leave this war now and save your people, as Halberdgardia could not care less for them, why should you care for Halberdgardia!
Willink
22-05-2005, 15:15
if you may notice that none of your allies have done ANYTHING TO HELP YOU(except Holy empire)

Wow, that had to be some of the most idiodic rambeling i have ever heard. You make crazy remarks of destroying everything, yet you are on the defensive, and your capitol is being bombed to peices.
McKagan
22-05-2005, 15:18
I'm willing to make a pact with even my enemies here.

I won't use WMD's on you unless you use them on my country, or my forces.
McKagan
22-05-2005, 15:21
Not if Halberdgardia uses them first.

Besides all our allies combined have many more WMDs than you two, plus both Willink and Halberdgardia have populations between 10-15 million, and our allies have much larger populations, so if WMDs are used, both your populations will be wiped out at a faster rate than Saharistan and our allies.

Besides, are you willing to risk allowing your nations population to be wiped out just to defend the imperialistic and bloodthirsty desires of Halberdgardia.

Saharistan acted in self defence, please leave this war now and save your people, as Halberdgardia could not care less for them, why should you care for Halberdgardia!

Please explain this to me.

How does a loan destroyer with the support of only one other ship in theatre seem to threaten your national security to a level that you must attempt to sink it? Better yet, how does a neutral destroyer in international waters do that?

If you've got such a 'vast and powerful nation' as you try to tell us at every corner, why do you feel so threatened by a ship that had done nothing to you or your interests, and never intended to?
McKagan
22-05-2005, 15:23
if you may notice that none of your allies have done ANYTHING TO HELP YOU(except Holy empire)

Wow, that had to be some of the most idiodic rambeling i have ever heard. You make crazy remarks of destroying everything, yet you are on the defensive, and your capitol is being bombed to peices.

It makes me think i'm watching a real muslim news channel...
Saharistan
22-05-2005, 15:26
Well Willink if you have READ ALL of the post you will see that our allies have given us the following support:

*SH Empire-200,000 troops.

*Soviet Leaders-200,000 troops.

*Other allies have given between a few thousand to 100,000 troops per nation.

Plus Saharistan has 300,000 strong military and during this war has called up 900,000 armed citizens into a defence militia.

Thats a total of around 1.8 million troops defending our nation, can you defeat that!

Stop being cowards and come to our nation to fight man to man, you and your pathetic ally in crime will be destroyed!

And now Saharsitan has already placed and order for nuclear ICBMs, so if you don't think this through, you will have the vision of your capital turning into an orange mushroom shaped fireball!
McKagan
22-05-2005, 15:31
You already got to see your capital burn under an orange river of Napalm.

We pretty well have air supuriority (for the most part)... we could whipe off a few hundred thousand troops from here.

Also, you said that Halberdgardia doesn't care about his people, but yet you are wanting to nuke someone else when 3 nations around you have nukes. You may not lose, but you'd lose a helluva lot of people.

What part of that shows you care for your population anymore than he does his?
Willink
22-05-2005, 15:32
Your iddiologic attempts at propaganda do nothing to change my decision, I will continue to destroy your country from the air,as your Army is also patheticly obsolete, relieing on T-55's that went out of service long ago. Oh and i will enjoy the pleasure of sinking any ship attemping to bring a ICBM into your country, and if you do destroy are capital, i will have everyone in our region completely overrun you.This includes-Risban, Flat flan and possibly Green sun.
McKagan
22-05-2005, 15:35
Does anyone realize that allied forces are basically free to fly over any city in his country, all the AA he had left has basically been destroyed, just don't get hit by an RPG and go blackhawk down and we'll be ok...
Willink
22-05-2005, 15:37
Oh and Saharistan numbers dont mean anything, go read about the six day war. We are completely dominating the battle so far, and the only thing you have done is attack a peacekeeping ship.
McKagan
22-05-2005, 15:38
Yeah,

We need to rethink our mission here, though.

Do we really need a ground "war."

We should just keep them contained, cut them off, and then bomb the holy shit out of them for days on end.
Willink
22-05-2005, 15:40
Mckagen is right, we should start a ground conflict, were gonna have to fight 80yr old men with AK-47's.
Saharistan
22-05-2005, 15:42
To: ALL ALLIES OF SAHARISTAN

Our enemies resolve has yet to be broken, I appeal to all our loyal allies, Soviet Leaders, SH Empire, Concador and other great nations, to resume their military activites and DEFEND OUR NATION.

We are being bombarded and our air defences are now weak, Saharistan dreads to think what defeat could be like.

Without you, allies of our nation, we could fall!

Don't let this happen.

Any allied nation that has military reserves in their nation, please start organising an invasion of one of the enemy nations, as when one of the enemies fall, maybe the others will pull out and victory shall be ours!
Willink
22-05-2005, 15:46
After this idiotic comment, you are pleeding that other countries help you, how weak.



TO ALLIES OF SAHARISTAN-
Why are you supporting a corrupt, tyrant that started the war in the first place by attacking a peacekeeping ship in international waters ? He continues to ramble on and on about the complete destruction of our Countries, while he hides in his office, scared to support his troops as they are bombed to peices.
McKagan
22-05-2005, 15:48
A lone fighter from Saharistan flies over the remains of the once semi-proud city, Baghdad.

All seems to be normal, except there aren't many more fighters in the air.

With that, 20 K12 fighters, the newest from the Federation, swoop down and fire AA missiles upon the last remaining fighters over Baghdad.

It appears Baghdad airspace is now controlled by the allies; although scout teams have saw small pockets of fighters at other places in the nation.
McKagan
22-05-2005, 15:50
After this idiotic comment, you are pleeding that other countries help you, how weak.



TO ALLIES OF SAHARISTAN-
Why are you supporting a corrupt, tyrant that started the war in the first place by attacking a peacekeeping ship in international waters ? He continues to ramble on and on about the complete destruction of our Countries, while he hides in his office, scared to support his troops as they are bombed to peices.

Indeed,

If his allies began to pull out of theatre now I would think no less of them, if anything, I would think higher that they haven't been brainwashed by his propaganda.
Saharistan
22-05-2005, 15:51
WRONG mcKagan stop godmoding!

I still have around 200 MIG-29s and about 150 other aircraft!

You never gave any details of the 'complete' destruction of my air force that you keep talking about.

Baghdad airport is not the only place my airforce is based at!
McKagan
22-05-2005, 15:53
I didn't say anything about your other cities, bases, or whatnot.

I said Baghdad airspace, which has been assaulted for well over 2 days now.
Saharistan
22-05-2005, 15:57
Well keep in mind I still have an airforce and have good fighters like F-14s, F-22s and MIG-29s as well as support aircraft like MIG-21s and MIG-19s which will attack your troops when they land on our beaches!

Plus I have AH-64 Apache and Mi-24 attack helicopters.
Willink
22-05-2005, 15:58
The WNF has launched SSM's at the main naval base of saharistan, and their are currently 30 missiles incoming aimed at Oil supplies,Major surface combantants, Docks,Housing for Personel and the naval command center, repair stations and the shipbuilding peirs.
McKagan
22-05-2005, 15:59
Well keep in mind I still have an airforce and have good fighters like F-14s, F-22s and MIG-29s as well as support aircraft like MIG-21s and MIG-19s which will attack your troops when they land on our beaches!

Plus I have AH-64 Apache and Mi-24 attack helicopters.

Which is another good reason for us to just keep assaulting you from the air with my K12's...

(think of an F22, only with less amounts of weapons, but still able to do the same job because it has a higher range)
Willink
22-05-2005, 16:00
MIG-19's suck and MIG-21's have no range whatsoever.
McKagan
22-05-2005, 16:02
The WNF has launched SSM's at the main naval base of saharistan, and their are currently 30 missiles incoming aimed at Oil supplies,Major surface combantants, Docks,Housing for Personel and the naval command center, repair stations and the shipbuilding peirs.

A K12 wing of 6 planes flies up the coast, in route to their target.

Upon seeing the naval station, they realize someone has beaten them to it.

They continue up the coast and drop out high explosive bombs (1 each, btw) in a pattern on an airbases runway. Then they ascend up through the clouds and disappear.
Saharistan
22-05-2005, 16:03
Saharistan's anti-missile defences manage to take out 13 of the 30 missiles aimed at us by Willink.

Those missiles that do get through hit the residential compounds in our bases and two fuel deopts.

Saharistan launches 24 SCUB-B missiles at the capital of Willink.

They now fly over international waters and head for their targets.
The Second Holy Empire
22-05-2005, 16:03
OOC: After Saharistan logged off last night, you two proceded in bombing the hell out of his entire country and airforce and now you claim you have air superiority? He wasn't even online! Besides it is up to him to decide how many casulties he has sustained.

IC:

The Holy Empire announced today the launch of several transport airfcraft en route to Saharistan with 30 AH-64 Apaches, 8 F-14 Tomcats, and 70 MIG-19s. Engineers as well as 300 pilots were included in the shipment to rebuild and re-arm the cities air defenses.

If another bomb falls in Baghdad, 67% of the Empire's air and naval forces will be on their way, in addition to another 300,000 troops that can be called from reserves. More than enough to break the small blockade and attack on the country of Saharistan.

Give up the invasion or your forces will be annihilated.
Willink
22-05-2005, 16:06
THe WNF naval division off the coast of Saharistan takes down 10 missiles with Sea sparrow's but the rest continue toward the outskirts of Alto vista, aimed at the air base and the factories.
Saharistan
22-05-2005, 16:06
13 F-22s and 9 MIG-29s fly in to intercept the 6 planes of McKagan's air force.

After a twenty minute dogfight, 4 of McKagans are destroyed and the other 2 fly away.

Saharistan lost 1 MIG-29 in this assault.
Saharistan
22-05-2005, 16:08
The remaining 14 SCUD-B missiles hit their targets in the capital of Willink.
McKagan
22-05-2005, 16:09
Through sheer numbers alone, the land invasion must be stopped. However, via naval domination, and air suppuriority, the war continues.

OOC: I've got a population of 10,000,000. I'm using a draft and have 250,000 combat soldiers, and 50,000 have to be kept back in the mainland.

I can no longer expect to fight a land invasion.

I'm also going offline, so they're be no more carpet bombing for a while.
McKagan
22-05-2005, 16:10
13 F-22s and 9 MIG-29s fly in to intercept the 6 planes of McKagan's air force.

After a twenty minute dogfight, 4 of McKagans are destroyed and the other 2 fly away.

Saharistan lost 1 MIG-29 in this assault.

God modding.

I refuse to aknowlege any account of a post talking about shooting down nearly all of my assault force of planes that are more advanced than yours.
Willink
22-05-2005, 16:11
Of the other 14 missiles 10 hit the airfield severly damadging it.

hits a barracks housing Military personel from risban, killing 150
1 hits a radar tower, and it falls on a hanger, killing 250
1 loses target and hits the international airport, killing 2,000 civilians
1 hits a factory north of the ai
1 rfield and kills 400.



The Willink air force has launched 14 MIG-31 interceptors to attack Holy empire transport aircraft.
Willink
22-05-2005, 16:20
Sharistan had more planes, but Mckagen is more advanced. So id say-Sharistan loses 4 MIG-29's and 1 F-22 while McKagen loses 5 K-12's.
Space Union
22-05-2005, 16:56
Saharistan:

Since this conflict hass actually developed, do you need our help?
Willink
22-05-2005, 16:59
Please Space union, Do not support Saharistan, they restarted the war by attacking a peacekeeping ship in international waters.We have since destroyed almost all of Baghdad and Severly damadged their naval base.


They are also ordering an ICBM for pure offensive capabilities, and threating to Nuke our capitals.
Space Union
22-05-2005, 17:09
Saharistan:

Our deal was that you wouldn't seek WMDs until you had 100 million population.

Also can you explain the reason behind attacking a peacekeeping vehicle?

President Harsimran Mann
Technocratic Republic of Space Union
The Second Holy Empire
22-05-2005, 17:11
Please Space union, Do not support Saharistan, they restarted the war by attacking a peacekeeping ship in international waters.We have since destroyed almost all of Baghdad and Severly damadged their naval base.


They are also ordering an ICBM for pure offensive capabilities, and threating to Nuke our capitals.


Pure propaganda they are reduced to using, leader of The Technocratic Republic of Space Union. The so called "peacekeeping" ship was a warship, floating just outside of Saharistan territory. How could the honorable Musab al Zarqawi just let this ship prepare to invade his peaceful nation, when there was no war! That ship should have been at his home port! Not preparing to annex these weary citizens. On behalf of The People's Republic of Saharistan, I beg you, Space Union, help us in our effort to free Saharistan from the ruthless imperialists that are attemping to take it from the people.
McKagan
22-05-2005, 17:12
Sharistan had more planes, but Mckagen is more advanced. So id say-Sharistan loses 4 MIG-29's and 1 F-22 while McKagen loses 5 K-12's.

I'd say 3, only because they are designed to be survivable.

I'd also say the F22 calsulties would be slightly higher.
McKagan
22-05-2005, 17:14
Pure propaganda they are reduced to using, leader of The Technocratic Republic of Space Union. The so called "peacekeeping" ship was a warship, floating just outside of Saharistan territory. How could the honorable Musab al Zarqawi just let this ship prepare to invade his peaceful nation, when there was no war! That ship should have been at his home port! Not preparing to annex these weary citizens. On behalf of The People's Republic of Saharistan, I beg you, Space Union, help us in our effort to free Saharistan from the ruthless imperialists that are attemping to take it from the people.

The sad thing is, that ship would have helped you had you been attacked for a full fledged war. He was here as an observer to the conflict, how is a destroyer going to invade your whole country, anyhow?

Now, however, you have gotten him clearence to bring in his whole army as his government sees fit.

I had a warship there too, if you remember, the MFS Stryker, why wasn't it fired upon?
McKagan
22-05-2005, 17:16
Saharistan:

Our deal was that you wouldn't seek WMDs until you had 100 million population.

Also can you explain the reason behind attacking a peacekeeping vehicle?

President Harsimran Mann
Technocratic Republic of Space Union

They've threatened to turn 3 National Capitals into "green radioactive holes in the ground."

They don't think they can stop a ground invasion, even though they have a nearly 200% advantage on us in numbers.
Neoma
22-05-2005, 17:22
Official Neoman Response---

Due to th overwhelming amount of growing violence in the area

The Grand Ruler of Neoma has decided to send the strongest of Neoman Naval power to the region.

Neoma Is sending the 5th and 1st fleets to the area

Each fleet has

15 Nimitz Class Carrier
3 Super Nimitz Carriers
14 SSN Hunter/Killer submarines
30 South Dakota Battle ships
10 Destroyers
10 Demitz Anit-Air Ships
40 Support ships
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The two fleets are being sent 15 miles outside of Saharistan waters
HailandKill
22-05-2005, 17:25
OOC:
This has gotten ridiculous, there are accusation, Godmods and other crazy shit. Theres got to be a new thread on this that claims why everyone went to war after the differences were settled between Leafanistan and Sahrinastan (plus the fact that this isnt a war between leafanistan and saharistan anymore). Also theres no way you have an airforce that big Sahristan, your economy sucks and you have a small population. Plus logistics i think you armed forces figures are a bit out of proportion. Also ive noticed other nations with these huge armies and low economies (you know who you are) and this conflict has turned into a bunch of godmods and such.
Im staying out of this until its all sorted out.
McKagan
22-05-2005, 17:26
Are you here as a peacekeeper? Or are you going to assist in the blockade?

Or worse... help break the blockade?
Willink
22-05-2005, 17:26
SAHARISTAN DILERBERATLY AND OIBVIOUSLY PROVOKED WAR ! IF YOU DONT BELIVE ME READ THIS
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I laughed when I saw your ridiculous messages. I shall delight in tearing your illogical statements apart slowly and methodically.

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Originally Posted by Saharistan
Message from the office of the Presidency of the People's Republic of Saharistan

To: Halberdgardia

The People's Republic of Saharistan in NO way feels uncomfortable with Halberdgardia's declaration of war against us.
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Were you supposed to? I was unaware of this.

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Originally Posted by Saharistan
You are not a strong nation and more importantly you ONLY have one ally, compared to the POWERFUL and LARGE allies that our great nation has!
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Of course we are strong. We are not large, but our military is advanced for our size. And, as you can see, my nation has more support than you think.

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Originally Posted by Saharistan
It was YOUR fault, Mr. Kir Kanos, that your sailors lost their lives, you failed to obey our REASONABLE and JUST demand and you had deliberatly PROVOKED us!
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So suddenly a destroyer acting as an observer and operating in INTERNATIONAL waters outside your territory with no intentions of any military action on EITHER side is an act of provocation against you? Your absurdity has reached levels I have previously not thought possible.

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Originally Posted by Saharistan
By refusing to stay out of this conflict, you have shown how bloodthirsty and warstarved your nation really is!
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If we wanted war with your nation, we would have simply joined Leafanistan at the beginning of the conflict.

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Originally Posted by Saharistan
President Musab al Zarqawi has ALWAYS been a man of peace and has ALWAYS had a preference for dialogue over conflict.
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Tell that to the families of the 230 men who died as a result of your nation's completely unwarranted and unprovoked assault on the Valiant.

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Originally Posted by Saharistan
But when cowards such as you Mr. Kanos refuse such paths and provoke war, Saharistan will ALWAYS defend, with full force, it's independence and it's interests.

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Again you accuse us of provoking war, when it was YOUR forces that started the conflict between our nations!

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Originally Posted by Saharistan
Sahartistan appeals directly to the people of Halberdgardia to overthrow the corrupt tyranny of the Kanos regime and free themselves so that they can avert the loss of their own blood and live in peace with us, as Saharistan is looking out for the interests of the people of Halberdgardia as well as our own.
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As if the people of Halberdgardia would actually deign to listen to the ramblings of a dictator with an unstable mind. I personally find it rather ironically amusing how you accuse Halberdgardia of being a "corrupt tyranny" when your own nation lacks democratic freedoms in any form.

Having finished dissecting those incoherent ramblings, we move on to your next message, the one you issued following our strike on Baghdad.
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Originally Posted by Saharistan
To: All allied nations

Last night, the cowards from Halberdgardia attacked our great city of Baghdad and destroyed around 28% of our military sites, including Baghdad airport.
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Oh, so we attack legitimate military targets in your capitol and suddenly we are "cowards"? Honestly, I think you just made that up in your blind rage that we were able strike the heart of your nation at will.

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Originally Posted by Saharistan
Sadly, 19 technicians from the nation of Soviet Leaders were killed along with our own brave military personnel.
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That is the risk of being in a war zone, unfortunately.

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Originally Posted by Saharistan
This attack was out of order and totally uncalled for, a blatant act of agression and imperialism.

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If our bombing of Baghdad was "uncalled for," then what does that make your attack on the Valiant?

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Originally Posted by Saharistan
We must all unite to fight the genocidal, fascist, bloodthirsty tyranny of Mr. Kanos.
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I fail to find any hint of genocidal, fascist, bloodthirsty, or tyrannical indications in the Halberdgardian government. Why is that? Oh yes, it is because those qualities are a perfect match for your own government.

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Originally Posted by Saharistan
I urge ALL great nations allied to Saharistan to start invasion and bombing preparations on the nation of Halberdgardia, with the aim of destroying their war machine and removing their tyrant from office!
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Perhaps you ought to work on defending your OWN capitol before going about attempting to invade other nations. Or do we need to send the Spirit of Halberdgardia on another whirlwind trip to Baghdad to remind you just how pathetically outclassed your forces are?

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Originally Posted by Saharistan
To: Halberdgardia

In revenge for your evil attack, Saharistan has excecuted 19 citizens from Halberdgardia, who were residing in our nation.

Their blood is on YOUR hands.
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This is perhaps one of the best lines I read. You see, this scenario you describe is an absolute impossibility, as no citizen of Halberdgardia would deign to enter the godforsaken spit of land you call your country. Therefore, we are afraid that you have mistaken someone else's citizens as ours. And therefore, their blood is on YOUR hands. Dreadful shame.

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Originally Posted by Saharistan
Saharistan has launched 57 SCUD-B missiles at your nations capital, await the destruction of your nation!

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So much for "not seeking WMDs." And by the way, we thought it appropriate that you know that your attack was a miserable failure. All 57 missiles were intercepted and destroyed by the Arleigh Burke-class destroyer D.R.H. Swift Justice long before they ever came close to Halberdgardian soil. Not that you deserve to know, but the Swift Justice was also aided by F-16s from the carrier D.R.H. Halberdgardian Vengeance. We also thought you ought to know that this attempted use of WMDs against our nation clears our allies for use of WMDs against your nation. We hope you enjoy your second helping of nerve agents.

Now that your second batch of illogical nonsense has been dealt with, we move on to your only-slightly-more-rational ally of The Dominion of the Second Holy Empire.

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Originally Posted by The Second Holy Empire
Open Transmission from The Dominion of the Second Holy Empire:

The ally of The Second Holy Empire, The People's Republic of Saharistan, has been attacked for the mere act of defending its own waters from the imperialistic nation of Halberdgardia.

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Apparently you don't comprehend the situation here. But being an ally of the psychotic and insane dictator of Saharistan, that is to be expected. You see, your ally attacked us first, with no declaration of war, which technically makes his attack an act of terrorism under U.N. regulations, and, more importantly, with no justifiable reason, killing 230 of our men. That is not something to be taken lightly.

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Originally Posted by The Second Holy Empire
The forces en route home from the al Zarqawi airport groaned as word reached them of the new hostilities. They are on their way back.
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You could save yourself the bloodshed and money and just keep them headed back home.

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Originally Posted by The Second Holy Empire
The People's Republic of Saharistan will not be a victory of for the expansionist Halberdgardia leaders.
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Not if we have anything to say about it. In fact, we're off to a rather good start. And be advised: our war is not one of conquest, but of self-defense. A distinction you seem to be unable to grasp.

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Originally Posted by The Second Holy Empire
War has been Declared from the lips of the Emperor himself on both the nations of Halberdgardia and Willink.

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Excellent. I hate it when leaders make their underlings do their dirty work.

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Originally Posted by The Second Holy Empire
Death will come to you swiftly!
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Again, we sincerely doubt this.

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Originally Posted by The Second Holy Empire
The terrorist training centers have been re-activated and propaganda is rampant.
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It's a pity that your nation must resort to terrorism. Can you not fight under the Geneva Convention, or is terrorism the only way you think you can win?

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Originally Posted by The Second Holy Empire
The effects are already being seen -- a number of Halberdgardia civilians were attacked as a carbomb exploded in an area of The Second Holy Empire, near the Halberdgardia embassy.
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I retract my previous statement about you being slightly more rational than your ally, as you both seem to be fond of claiming statistical impossibilities as fact. There is no Halberdgardia embassy in Saharistan, and never has been. Our sympathies to the poor souls your fool suicide bombers somehow mistook for our non-existent diplomats.
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This has to be the funniest thing i've ever read.
Halberdgardia
22-05-2005, 17:26
Hey Halberdgardia, he is sorta right, no way you can have 25,000 tanks when your countries size is only 12 million

[OOC: I knew I was going to be accused of godmodding on this one, but I stand by my figures. As per the USSR Military Strength Calculator (http://na.halberd.org/viewtopic.php?t=47) I use, when my population hits 10 million, I am allowed to create armor equal to one percent of my population and draft no additional mechanized forces, except under some special conditions, none of which currently apply. As 1% of 10 million is 100,000, I actually made a more accurate post by assuming 100,000 to be the number of men allowed to be in the mechanized forces. Dividing this number of men by 4 men per crew of M1A2 Abrams tank, you get 25,000 units of armor. Ridiculously large? Perhaps. But pull-it-out-of-my-ass unjustified? No.]
Neoma
22-05-2005, 17:30
Which is another good reason for us to just keep assaulting you from the air with my K12's...

(think of an F22, only with less amounts of weapons, but still able to do the same job because it has a higher range)

so it like a F22 is a glock with 12 rounds of ammunition

and your K12 is a glock with 5 rounds but it has a scope correct..
Willink
22-05-2005, 17:32
I refuse to aknowlege Neoma forces in the region because they are unporportional. You have no reason to be here.
Neoma
22-05-2005, 17:36
let me get this strait before i answer you McKagan

You and Willink are attacking Saharistan on his own turf and have a blockade in place

also

Space Union and The Second Holy Empire are supporting Saharistan but are not active.

am i correct :confused:
Neoma
22-05-2005, 17:38
I refuse to aknowlege Neoma forces in the region because they are unporportional. You have no reason to be here.

how do you say my forces are unporportional
Willink
22-05-2005, 17:40
Using that strength calculation i figured out how much forces i have=
5% of poulation is 700,000 regular troops.
Including Draft-1,400,000
Mechenized-14,000 men
that divided by 4 would give me 3,500 tanks and 1,386,000 troops to deploy.
Neoma
22-05-2005, 17:42
Using that strength calculation i figured out how much forces i have=
5% of poulation is 700,000 regular troops.
Including Draft-1,400,000
Mechenized-14,000 men
that divided by 4 would give me 3,500 tanks and 1,386,000 troops to deploy.

what are you saying by giving me your army info
Willink
22-05-2005, 17:47
Your country is the size of china, yet it has the Naval military stength of Japan and The US combined During WW2. I am sick of people saying they Have "Super" anything super battleships, super Nimitz class would cost in excess of 10 Billion each,You have 30 battleships, which no one should ever say they ever have, The South Dakota ships were all decomissioned in the mid 50's and even with Tomahawk Cruise missiles they are sitting ducks. You need them for shore bombardment. Which is useless because your allies nation is being attacked. 15 Nimitz carriers is more than the US fleet. 1 anti-ship nuke would wipe out your half your fleet. Please keep this reasonable.
Willink
22-05-2005, 17:48
I am just saying how many troops i can deploy.

Ok here is info- Soviet lands isnt doing anything, Holy empire has just threatened us and sent terrorists While We continue to destroy Saharistan- and they STARTED the war too by attacking a peacekeeping ship in international waters.
Neoma
22-05-2005, 17:54
Your country is the size of china, yet it has the Naval military stength of Japan and The US combined During WW2. I am sick of people saying they Have "Super" anything super battleships, super Nimitz class would cost in excess of 10 Billion each,You have 30 battleships, which no one should ever say they ever have, The South Dakota ships were all decomissioned in the mid 50's and even with Tomahawk Cruise missiles they are sitting ducks. You need them for shore bombardment. Which is useless because your allies nation is being attacked. 15 Nimitz carriers is more than the US fleet. 1 anti-ship nuke would wipe out your half your fleet. Please keep this reasonable.


A: they are the strongest of my naval forces...
B: I only have 6 fleets and the others are not even half the size of these two
C: Ive taken forces out of the budget given to my Army and Airforce to make my navy possible
D.The South Dakota class battleships used in my forces are upgraded with Nucklear drives, tomahawk missles, and various other upgrades
E. I messed up with the 15 i ment 5
F: so that you stop quefing ill only send the 5th Fleet okay
Soviet leaders
22-05-2005, 17:55
the Soviet leaders fleet pulls back into the port a nd is firing just to defend its self but the army and the other tanks are defending the city that our fleet is in

To:SAHARISTAN
From: Sovite leaders

You sould save your nation from possible destruction and you should seek a peace treaty becaues we only see 2 things happening you going into debt or your defeat

End Transmission

To: ALL GOING AGIANST SAHARISTAN
From Soviet leaders

Would you accept a peace treaty with SAHARISTAN this war has help kill more than its share of people
Space Union
22-05-2005, 17:56
Willink:

Don't use that calculator. It is out-of-date. Using 10% of your population would collapse your economy so severe that your nation would self-destruct from within. Even using 5% will bring severe hardship to your nation's citizens. In war-time, you should use only 3% to avoid complete collapse of all forces.
Neoma
22-05-2005, 17:56
[QUOTE=Willink]super Nimitz class would cost in excess of 10 Billion QUOTE]

how do you figure that....
HailandKill
22-05-2005, 18:00
Are you here as a peacekeeper? Or are you going to assist in the blockade?

Or worse... help break the blockade?

Is this directed at me?

BTW willnk a 10 mil pop with those army figures? No way, that is alotta bullshit, even using a GDP calculator of the USSR, because the USSR had a somewhat better economy then "fair". if we let you use these stats your tanks will go a 1/2 mile and breakdown without gas. Logistics is important and you may have these forces but not the money to support them.
Willink
22-05-2005, 18:04
Here we go, The WNF launched its second batch of SSM missiles minutes ago(38 of em), aimed at Military targets around bagdhad including the following- Reserve stations, Governmnet offices, the Ministry of Defense Building, The Presidents manor, And any airfield within 15 miles of the City. Please Sign a peace treaty before your country is reduced to ruble.
Willink
22-05-2005, 18:08
My population is 14 mil not 10 mil, this is quite a difference. it wasnt directed at anyone, just to see how many forces i have.
Space Union
22-05-2005, 18:12
My population is 14 mil not 10 mil, this is quite a difference. it wasnt directed at anyone, just to see how many forces i have.

Still you can't possess that many. Your total military in war-time should only be this:

3% of 14 million: 420,000. That includes logistics, crews, and other non-combatant soldiers. Divide this number into how many personal go into each branch (Air Force, Army, Navy). Then use this ration to figure out logistics:

Air Force: 1 Pilot:9 Logistics
Army: 1 Soldier:4 Logistics
Navy: 1 Sailor: 3 Logisitics
Soviet leaders
22-05-2005, 18:14
TO: ALL
from: Soviet leaders

Stop firing your missiles or anything if there is going to be peace in this you need to stop attacking everyone


this only will help in more dead.
Halberdgardia
22-05-2005, 18:20
To: The People's Republic of Saharistan and Her Allies
From: Kenix Kil, Secretary of State, The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia
Re: Ultimatum

The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia issues the following ultimatum to the People's Republic of Saharistan and her allies:

Stand down ALL your military forces--air force, navy, army, terrorists, missiles, etc.--within the next 24 hours and sign a peace accord with Halberdgardia and her allies, or we will resume bombing of your nation until every large city and all military installations are leveled. We will invade your nation with ground forces if necessary; our expeditionary forces are standing by, ready to deploy. Realize that you cannot win, and put an end to this senseless conflict you have started.

Kenix Kil
Secretary of State
The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia
HailandKill
22-05-2005, 18:20
OOC:
this has gotten out of hand with all the ganking going on, im entering this war. lets see how you small gank nations deal with a larger nation who is pissed off at this pointless escalation.
There is no such thing as a peacekeeping ship, thats alotta bullshit, all that is, is a ship waiting to prey on the weak moment.

Even so Willnk you dont seem to have the economy or logistics to support that army.

IC:
Due to the recent escalation of events and needless destruction of
Sahristan the Kingdom of HailandKill is entering the war in favor of Sahrinistan and we formally request to land troops to help repel an invasion. All forces are on red alert and ready to move. We impel you to let us help you.
-Signed President Revello
Soviet leaders
22-05-2005, 18:32
TO: Every nation that is fighting Saharistan
From:Soviet leaders

You stand down two and we will stand down there is no need to keep this war going it will get more people killed and we are now going to pull out of this conflict If you fire at our ships that will not attack you unless attacked We will see it as a act of war and will act justly We see this to be a war that two many people want not to end and If the accord is you have to give us everything we will not sign it but we will sign it to get out of this war. none of you need to get rid of your military and become are colony.
Space Union
22-05-2005, 18:32
Because of the recent attacks on our ally Saharistan, we have no other choice but to declare war on all nations that attack Saharistan. If you try to bomb or attack Saharistan, prepared to see your nation's force beat to a pulp. We have our Harsimranster Navy in the region so we can provide immediate air cover to all forces.

President Harsimran Mann
Technocratic Republic of Space Union

_________________________________________________________________

At Harsimranster's Fleet:

The fleet sprang into action as the message was received to protect Saharistan. F-3, AV-28, F-117X, FU-29K, and F-27s came alive. Total:

94 F-3
90 AV-28
12 F-117X (N)
6 FU-29K
2 TSF-616N

They climbed into the air after each other. Air crew ran out of their hangers and got into their cockpits and got ready to take-off. In 30 minutes the entire aircraft fleet was heading to Saharistan's capital to defend against enemy bombers. It was time to fight.
Soviet leaders
22-05-2005, 18:38
TO ALL NATIONS
FROM SOVIET LEADERS

THIS IS POINTLESS THERE WILL NEVER BE PEACE WITH YOU PEOPLE ALWAYS ATTACK!!!!!

CAN'T YOU PEOPLE COME TO SOME SORT OF PEACE!!!!!!!!! :headbang:


THIS WHAT THIS WAR IS GOING TO GO!!!!
http://cloggie.org/pictures/wissewords/mushroom-cloud.jpg

SO STOP ATTACKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sinical
22-05-2005, 18:54
Soviet Leaders,

We as the Allied Northwest are not going to ask you but one time to relieve yourself from other nation's bouts, you are not the peace maker, leave that to the UN. If you do not comply with this simple request we will be forced as an united power to attack.. as we are obligated to do so.
Willink
22-05-2005, 18:55
WHY ARE YOU ALLYING WITH SAHARISTAN ! THEY STARTED THE WAR !


If Hailandkill refuses to stand down, i will launch assaults on their fleet.
Saharistan
22-05-2005, 19:03
Message from the office of the Presidency of the People's Republic of Saharsitan

To: Halberdgardia, Willink and McKagan

Recently our nation has purchased 400 nuclear armed ICBM's with a 6,000km range.

We have been able to do this due to the kindness of a particular nation which sold ALL 400 ICBMs for the price of 600 million USD.

This nation did this deal, in which we bought these nuclear ICBMs at BELOW MARKET PRICES, out of sympathy for our cause.

IF ALL ENEMY NATIONS DO NOT STAND DOWN AND SURRENDER THEMSELVES TO SAHARISTAN, THEN ALL THREE ENEMY NATIONS WILL BE WIPED OUT!

Saharistan has had enough of our enemies bloodthirsty antics and their foolish adventurism will cost them their very existence if they do not see sense.

Willink, McKagan and Halberdgardia, you must cease this war against us under the following condidtions:

1.) ALL THREE HEADS OF STATE OF THE ENEMY NATIONS MUST RESIGN THEIR OFFICES AND THEIR GOVERNMENTS MUST RESIGN THEIR OFFICES.

2.) All three enemy nations must ABOLISH and DESTROY all their WMD weapons and long range missiles.

3.) Each nation is to be prohibited from having a standing armed forces larger than 150,000 strong.

4.) All three enemy nations must pay Saharistan 300 million USD in compensation EACH.

5.) All three enemy nations must issue a public apology to the suffereing they caused on Saharistan.

6.) All three enemy nations MUST allow international observers from other nations to see that all three nations carry out point 1-5 of our demands.

7.) All three enemy nations cannot debate points 1-6 and that they cannot propose any demands on us as part of this settlement.

REMEMBER, SAHARISTAN IS NOW A NUCLEAR POWER AND HAS 400 MISSILES WITH ATOMIC WARHEADS!

THINK WELL AND MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION AND COMPLY WITH OUR PROPOSAL!

YOU DON'T EVEN WANT TO CONSIDER THE ALTERNATIVES!

From the President of the People's Republic of Saharistan

Musab al Zarqawi.
Willink
22-05-2005, 19:07
This Is The Most Idiotic Post You Have Ever Made, I Am No Pussy, And If You Do Use Nuclear Missiles, The Whole World Will Bring Your Country Down To The Gates Of Fucking Hell.



I HAVE OVER 500 NUCLEAR MISSILES BOUGHT DIRECTLY FROM FELINE CATFISH,STAND DOWN OR DIE
Space Union
22-05-2005, 19:09
Saharistan, I am appalled to hear that you bought nuclear weapons. You have effectively destroyed our deal. Unless you disarm after the peace treaty has been conducted, then we will have to take action against you.

President Harsimran Mann
Technocratic Republic of Space Union
HailandKill
22-05-2005, 19:12
WHY ARE YOU ALLYING WITH SAHARISTAN ! THEY STARTED THE WAR !


If Hailandkill refuses to stand down, i will launch assaults on their fleet.

OOC: They started the war and then other nations ganked him for no reason, it should of been a cut and dry war but no. Also i hate chem weapons and then you people side with overbear after the wanten destruction of civilian life. Willnk i dont have fleets in the area yet so good job. I welcome an attack so i can use it to scour your nation from the earth.

Sahrinistan dont use nukes, if you do i will withdraw support and it will be the end of the world if you use them. You have enough support to destroy these nations without nukes.
Willink
22-05-2005, 19:13
ALL NATIONS ALLIED WITH SAHARISTAN

Please remove your alliences now and get as many nations as you can to destroy the corrupt, Phycopathic Leader of Saharistan.
Saharistan
22-05-2005, 19:15
Saharistans ICBM missile silos

70 ICBMs tipped with atomic warheads have been fired at Willink.

Their targets include the capital city of Willink (which alone has 9 ICBMs heading towards it), their main port city, ALL of their ICBM silos, and the rest are aimed at population centres, military bases and airfields.

It's only a matter of time before they reach their targets.
Willink
22-05-2005, 19:20
All civilans are being evacuated and willink has countered by fireing 200 Mockingbird Nuclear Missiles at Bhagdad, Every major city, All air bases, and every governmet building. Im sorry this had to end this way.
Saharistan
22-05-2005, 19:25
President Musab al Zarqawi, his entire government and all his military staff and advisors and all leading members of the Central Military Council (CMC), are already at a nuclear bunker deep underground somewhere in the deserts of Saharistan.

They have been fortunate enough to escape the comming nuclear holocaust.

1 hr later, Willinks ICBMs have hit their targets.

Saharistan has not yet got round to getting the death toll together on this attack, but the number of dead are somewhere around 2 million to 5 million.
Willink
22-05-2005, 19:27
The captial Willink has been leveled, and the surrounding Suburbs severly damaged, with casualties expected around 2 million.
HailandKill
22-05-2005, 19:30
OOC: you are a fucking joke saharistan, also the noobiest motherfucker ever. Look at FC they had 30+ nations breathing down their necks and not ONE, ONE FUCKIN NUKE WAS FIRED. To say you have lost my support is and understatement.

IC:
-----Presidential office, HailandKill-----
The NSA was almost to afraid to give the news to the president.
"S-s-s-sir"
"what is it Alex?"
"70 nukes were fired from Saharistan intented at Willnk."
"WHAT!!" yelled the president "didnt they threaten us recently?"
"Yes sir"
"This is not good, SCRAMBLE ALL FIGHTERS IN OUR AIRFORCE, EVERY PLANE WILL ATTEMPT TO SHOOT THESE NUKES DOWN" screamed the president.
"Yes sir"

To: Saharistan, all nations involved

The nation of HailandKill is openly opposed to Saharistan, and DECLARES WAR on them. Prior to this we may of shown support but the use of nukes has changed our minds. We dont like chem weapons but we hate nukes more. All fighters are being scrambled to attempt to destroy the nukes in the air. 1st and 2nd Fleets are being deployed to Saharistan waters to commence bombing and attacks. If there is an invasion you can bet your ass we will be involved.
Saharistan
22-05-2005, 19:30
A further 30 nuclear tipped ICBMs have been fired at Willink and their targets are now the main civilian population centres.
Willink
22-05-2005, 19:33
The ICMB defense has been redied, and shoots down 10 ICBM's. The rest hit, the tuorist center, Alto vista, killing 10 Million instantly, mostly forigners. If you havent noticed, almost the hole world has declared war on you, and all contires inhabititng embassies have declared war on you.
Willink
22-05-2005, 19:35
Being a super noob, you forgot my forces were not even in my country at the time, and your casualties would be much higher, considering the dustruction of your air, naval, and Ground forces.
Saharistan
22-05-2005, 19:41
57 nuclear tipped ICBMs have been fired at the nation of HailandKill.

Their targets are the main ports/docks, military bases, communication centres, airfields and their capital city.

Presidential bunker compound, somewhere in Saharistan

"These traitors will soon learn the error of their ways, HailandKill will now learn the true cost of their declaration of war!" President Zarqawi said to his Minister of Defence.

The Defence Minister replied back that "We may not come out of this alive, but now it's started, there is no going back. I only hope some of our allies will stick with us"

Zarqawi then said in his mind "Only the nation of the Second Holy Empire might remain with us, they are our only real ally, the other nations only were with us when they thought we were the victim and sided with the supposed 'underdog', now they have left us".
HailandKill
22-05-2005, 19:42
-----Presidential Office-----
"Sir the initial 70 missiles hit"
"Oh my...."
"It is estamated 3million people have been killed"
"Holy shit, are our planes in the air?"
"Yes sir but were not able to make it in time"
"Give me more bulletins when they come in"
"Yes sir"

30mins later
"Mr president 30 more nuclear missiles were fired"
"Get the planes in the air to shoot them down"
"Yes sir"
"I only want 4 squadrons in the air (48 planes)
"Yes sir"

-----40 Miles out of Willnk airspace-----
Captain John Garcia, the Squadron leader was leading his teams to shoot down the nukes in the air
"This is Garcia, codename Chopper, arm all Phoenix AAM missiles, hopefully the missiles will fly right into 'em. Choose targets wisely and if those missiles pass us get ready to use your guns to shoot them down. Ready 3-2-1 FIRE.

About 96 Missiles were fired at the ICBMs, they streaked to their targets as the raptors pulled into a steep climb.
Saharistan
22-05-2005, 19:53
Willink, NOT all of your military forces are out of our nation, you do have some military left behind, every nation does in war.

Besides, your communication centres, airfields and ports were not NOOB targets, they were a vital part of your ablilty to attack my nation, now I have fired ICBMs at them, targets in need of hitting!
HailandKill
22-05-2005, 19:57
OOC: So thats the game you want to play eh? Ok im in.
BTW Willnk i RPed an attack on the 30 missiles so dont claim losses and then godmod the shooting down of 10. Sadly the n00b has got to claim losses. If they arent acurrate we ignore and no one is injured.

IC:
"MR. PRESIDENT 57 NUKES ARE AIMED AT US"
"JESUS CHRIST ALMIGHTY, WE HAVE OUR WHOLE AIRFORCE UP RIGHT?"
"Yes sir"
"Shoot those fucking things down and evacuate immediatly"
"Sir?"
"Get everyone out of here, get them to the bunker in the mountians"
"And you?"
"I will die here for this nation"
"No you cant---"
"I can and will, may god look upon me and all of you"

--Over HK airspace---
"Remember this is our country and we will shoot these missiles down" said Diego Martinez an airforce Captain "For HailandKill"
There were many cheers in the cockpits, although there was nothing to cheer about.
((OOC: I have about 275 planes in my airforce. 72 FB-22 bombers and the Rest f-22 Raptors. Since i have 48 over near willnk i can say i have about 140 fighters in the air and 72 FB raptors in the air too (FB is fighter and bomber so they can have missiles)

The pilots let out 4 Phoenix missiles a piece. ((4x200=800)) The missiles streaked towards the ICBMS at about Mach 2.5. Missiles cannot evade missiles because they are not human, So RP lossed fair or i ignore you.

---HailandKill Borders----
Hummer patriot armed missle carriers have been mobilized to shoot any missiles that escape through my air defence.
Willink
22-05-2005, 20:00
The WNF, off the coast of Saharistan, has begun to shoot down ICBMs launched at hailandkill.
Space Union
22-05-2005, 20:07
I hearby declare war against Saharistan. You have violated all treaties. If you fire any nuclear weapons at me don't expect them to reach me. I have an entire Anti-Nuclear System in space and my fighters are ready to shoot your nukes down. Surrender now. And if you fire nukes at us, we will turn your nation into a radiating crater in the planet.

President Harsimran Mann
Technocratic Republic of Space Union
Halberdgardia
22-05-2005, 20:19
To: The Insane Terrorist Dictator Musab al Zaraqwi of the Rogue Nation of Saharistan
From: Kenix Kil, Secretary of State, The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia
Re: WMD Use

The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia finds Saharistan's use of WMDs (exactly as we predicted), and against civilian populations no less, utterly damnable and reprehensible, and in complete contradiction of the conduct of responsible nations. We have placed our extensive ABS defense system on full alert, and the destroyer Swift Justice, as well as the newly-repaired Valiant, are now stationed in international waters between Saharistan and Halberdgardia on missile interception duty. Do not even bother firing your nuclear weapons, as they will be intercepted with no loss of Halberdgardian life. You will be brought to justice, Musab al Zaraqwi, for your damnable crimes. Halberdgardia will see to that.

Kenix Kil
Secretary of State
The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia
P3X1299
22-05-2005, 20:21
To: Whom it may concern
From: P3X1299 Foreign Office

In light of the recent employment of nuclear weapons by Saharistan we now have now more sympathy or arms shipments for them. Feel free to wipe their country off the face of the planet.

Sincerely,
John Carter
P3X1299 Premier
HailandKill
22-05-2005, 20:30
---Presidential office---
To: All nations against saharistan

As all my major cities and military bases are being evacuated i am asking for help. I ask for any nation to try and destroy the ICBM's fired at me to try and preserve life. This may very well be the last time i am heard from, and as my last request i ask for nations to help my airforce destroy all the missiles being fired at me.
-Signed president revello
Saharistan
22-05-2005, 20:33
Message from the office of the Presidency of the People's Republic of Saharistan

To: Halberdgardia

As your nation has not yet suffered the same fate as you two allies, I urge you to accept the peace plan I gave to all three nations to which Saharistan is at war with.

Don't let your nation suffer the same fate as the other two did!

I urge you not to go off the rails as it is important that you keep your sanity for the duration of this conflict.

See common sense and do what is right.

To: All former allied nations

Your disgusting janus faced approach has been one of the worst aspcets that have occured during this war.

Saharistan gave you our trust and solidarity and our soilders risked their lives for you!

Overbear attacked us with WMDs and not one off you did anything!

Willink and McKagan use small nuclear type weapons on our airport in Baghdad yet no one do anything!

Yet when we reply in kind with a measured respone, the whole world goes crazy!

It seems Im the only head of state who has kept his sanity!

To: Second Holy Empire

As you have supported us throughout and have been our only TRUE and REAL ally, we urge your nation to do something to tip the balance in our favour.

This is due to the bizarre and mad events which have turned many nations against us, even when Saharistan did NOT ask for this.

From the President of the People's Republic of Saharistan

Musab al Zarqawi
Willink
22-05-2005, 20:39
Saharistan, i have assmebled an internation coalition of nearly 10 Contries,and Will destroy any sign of life in your Country. And if Holy empire
knows what is good for them, they will ingnor you. If you do attack Halberdgardia, i will scour your country for you, and if i find you. I will make shure you go to hell.

You phycopathic motherfucker,prepare to die.
Saharistan
22-05-2005, 20:42
Don't bother threatening us!

It's gone beyond that!

Just follow the sane route and agree to my peace plan.
Willink
22-05-2005, 20:44
If you may notice, your capitol is leveled, along with your entire army, air, and naval forces, and over 70% of your population has died. Do not provoke Willink any further.
Halberdgardia
22-05-2005, 20:47
Airspace above Saharistan, WMD Attacks+2 hrs.

The scenario was remarkably similar to the first bombing raid against Saharistan. It was the middle of the night. The same 12 F-117 Nighthawks were preceding the same B-2 bomber. And as last time, they kicked things off with the same code-phrase.

"Prepare Phase One."

With that, the F-117s loosed their payloads, this time completely of napalm, onto the ground below. Their target was the massive al-Mahmoud oil mining and refining complex some 30 miles north of Baghdad, which produced a large percentage of Saharistan's oil. The fact that the complex was an oil-refining one acted as a force multiplier for the inherent flammability and destructive force of the napalm itself. With 168 napalm bombs igniting an already highly-flammable substance, it seemed as though someone had taken a match to a giant line of gunpowder. Almost immediately, it seemed as though the entire complex was consumed in flames. This damage was only compounded when the Spirit of Halberdgardia showed up, with another 40,000 pounds of conventional explosives. Just as last time, the pilot grinned and looked at his co-pilot.

"Do I even need to say it, Charlie?"

The co-pilot grinned. "Looks like the fuckers needed a second helping of pain and misery, boss." And with that, he threw the switch. The bombs screamed down at any remaining areas already not consumed in flames, destroying garages, bunkers, hangars, and the outlier parts of the oil fields not ignited. The thirteen aircraft made it back safely to allied airspace, with the Saharistanis apparently being so stunned that they hadn't even launched fighters.

Airspace over Baghdad, Oil field attack+2 mins.

36 Halberdgardian F-16 Fighting Falcons, each equipped with two 2,000-pound bombs, for a total of 72 2,000-pound bombs, screamed over Baghdad, not even bothering to go for stealth like their F-117 and B-2 counterparts. Screaming over the city at Mach 2, they loosed their bombs and were far out of range before the Saharistanis had time to blink. The bombs ripped through the already-devastated city, flattening the few buildings over ten stories still standing and igniting panic throughout the city. Coming around and engaging their afterburners, the F-16s screamed over the city with an inhuman noise at low altitude, terrifying the civilians on the ground before returning to allied airspace.

As with the previous raid, the pilots left behind a message for the Saharistanis. "Consider that a big 'FUCK YOU' response to your peace offering, al Zaraqwi, you bastard!"
HailandKill
22-05-2005, 20:47
Message from the office of the Presidency of the People's Republic of Saharistan

To: All former allied nations

Your disgusting janus faced approach has been one of the worst aspcets that have occured during this war.

Saharistan gave you our trust and solidarity and our soilders risked their lives for you!

Overbear attacked us with WMDs and not one off you did anything!

Willink and McKagan use small nuclear type weapons on our airport in Baghdad yet no one do anything!

Yet when we reply in kind with a measured respone, the whole world goes crazy!

It seems Im the only head of state who has kept his sanity!




OOC:
Yea right your sane. Nuking my country (You still need to RP losses of ICBMS because me and Willnk are shooting them down) was retarded because i said to you if you use nukes i will withdraw support. So i did, and if you initially look i was on your side, but when you use massive amounts of nukes as compared to 2 small ones, well this is unnaceptable. Stop trying to justify this and get ready to be destroyed.
The Second Holy Empire
22-05-2005, 22:40
OOC: Well, this is what I get for going to the mall...

IC:

The Second Holy Empire has long opposed nuclear war and therefore has not made any purchases or attemps to attain nuclear weapons. With this in mind, I don't know what possible advantage I could provide for either side.

Be aware, Saharistan, you have long been my ally and still are regarded as such, however; this nation cannot afford to enter a one-sided nuclear war with only conventional weapons. Many brave soldiers were killed in your nation without any chance of being recalled to their homes.

If your nation is invaded and you must flee, I will still allow your safety in my country. It seems though that we do not have the ability to stop this great onslaught.

The Dominion of the Second Holy Empire hereby removes all forces from the area of The People's Republic of Saharistan with a somber heart.
Halberdgardia
22-05-2005, 22:53
OOC: Well, this is what I get for going to the mall...

IC:

The Second Holy Empire has long opposed nuclear war and therefore has not made any purchases or attemps to attain nuclear weapons. With this in mind, I don't know what possible advantage I could provide for either side.

Be aware, Saharistan, you have long been my ally and still are regarded as such, however; this nation cannot afford to enter a one-sided nuclear war with only conventional weapons. Many brave soldiers were killed in your nation without any chance of being recalled to their homes.

If your nation is invaded and you must flee, I will still allow your safety in my country. It seems though that we do not have the ability to stop this great onslaught.

The Dominion of the Second Holy Empire hereby removes all forces from the area of The People's Republic of Saharistan with a somber heart.

You will save youself from much hatred in the international community if you retract your offer of sanctuary for al Zaraqwi:

The Whittier High Court has issued an international arrest warrant for President ZARAQWI. Mr. Zarqawi is wanted for human rights violations and war crimes.


The 3rd Marine battalion is being sent to Saharastan to provide protection to civilians and foreigners. Arrival will be in 5 days.

The UPR will impose sanctions against any nation giving aid or refuge to President Zarqawi.
Dalvaktia
23-05-2005, 00:12
To all friendly and peaceloving nations,

Upon further notice, Primum Mobile Nikolay Denekofv has returned from settling a diplomatic issue in certain countries, which shall remain disclosed, and has issued this statement.

We will not tolerate this any longer, the people do not deserve to be killed, espically with the use of a nuclear weapon. We announce the finish of our secret buildings, the SAM Missle Battery. This will stop any Rouge or fired upon us Missiles that come within a 250 mile radius of our country.

We also move 1,000 AEGIS cruisers to defend Halberdgardia, and 200 Destroyers. Also, we will send 500 AEGIS cruisers to defend the coastland of Scala Pacem. Any violent attacks against us will result in retaliation.

This is where we look for aid. Any peaceloving country should please heed this cry. This war is wrong, why should the innocent suffer because of the tyrany of one corrupt ruler? We need to put an end to this mad man, and stop him from destroying any more innocent nations and taking innocent lives. We can not stand and just let this pass with a blind eye. If anyone can give assistance in any way, please do so. Innocent lives depend on it. Thank you.

Nikolay Denekofv,
Primim Mobile of The Commonwealth of Dalvaktia
Pushka
23-05-2005, 00:15
Message from the office of the Presidency of the People's Republic of Saharsitan

To: Halberdgardia, Willink and McKagan

Recently our nation has purchased 400 nuclear armed ICBM's with a 6,000km range.

We have been able to do this due to the kindness of a particular nation which sold ALL 400 ICBMs for the price of 600 million USD.

This nation did this deal, in which we bought these nuclear ICBMs at BELOW MARKET PRICES, out of sympathy for our cause.

IF ALL ENEMY NATIONS DO NOT STAND DOWN AND SURRENDER THEMSELVES TO SAHARISTAN, THEN ALL THREE ENEMY NATIONS WILL BE WIPED OUT!

Saharistan has had enough of our enemies bloodthirsty antics and their foolish adventurism will cost them their very existence if they do not see sense.

Willink, McKagan and Halberdgardia, you must cease this war against us under the following condidtions:

1.) ALL THREE HEADS OF STATE OF THE ENEMY NATIONS MUST RESIGN THEIR OFFICES AND THEIR GOVERNMENTS MUST RESIGN THEIR OFFICES.

2.) All three enemy nations must ABOLISH and DESTROY all their WMD weapons and long range missiles.

3.) Each nation is to be prohibited from having a standing armed forces larger than 150,000 strong.

4.) All three enemy nations must pay Saharistan 300 million USD in compensation EACH.

5.) All three enemy nations must issue a public apology to the suffereing they caused on Saharistan.

6.) All three enemy nations MUST allow international observers from other nations to see that all three nations carry out point 1-5 of our demands.

7.) All three enemy nations cannot debate points 1-6 and that they cannot propose any demands on us as part of this settlement.

REMEMBER, SAHARISTAN IS NOW A NUCLEAR POWER AND HAS 400 MISSILES WITH ATOMIC WARHEADS!

THINK WELL AND MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION AND COMPLY WITH OUR PROPOSAL!

YOU DON'T EVEN WANT TO CONSIDER THE ALTERNATIVES!

From the President of the People's Republic of Saharistan

Musab al Zarqawi.

Any ICBM fired by Saharistan or anyone involved in this conflict will be shot down by UCR NMD system, and those responsible will have to deal with full retaliation of Union of Communist Republics armed forces. Where will be peace, either through mutual agreement or through application of force by our side. In next meeting of Communist Party Committee i will vote for interfering unless Saharia quites down its ambitions and joins the peace talks. You do not want to face our military, stand down and save your man, and your self-respect. That is all.

-Alexandr Chorni, Prime Minister of Union of Communist Republics
Ackerenia
23-05-2005, 00:15
OOC: Zarqawi is already in another country most likely. Not to mention that the allies have won...right now we're in the process of stabilizing the country. Check out the Saharistan Invasion thread.
Sinical
23-05-2005, 00:18
Saharistan,

My small but powerful Region is willing to back you up 100%. I am for your views on this matter. Let me know which resources you would like to tap into of ours. I can contact a few leaders of my nation's black market to create weapons for your cause.
Leafanistan
23-05-2005, 00:20
1.) ALL THREE HEADS OF STATE OF THE ENEMY NATIONS MUST RESIGN THEIR OFFICES AND THEIR GOVERNMENTS MUST RESIGN THEIR OFFICES.

2.) All three enemy nations must ABOLISH and DESTROY all their WMD weapons and long range missiles.

3.) Each nation is to be prohibited from having a standing armed forces larger than 150,000 strong.

4.) All three enemy nations must pay Saharistan 300 million USD in compensation EACH.

5.) All three enemy nations must issue a public apology to the suffereing they caused on Saharistan.

6.) All three enemy nations MUST allow international observers from other nations to see that all three nations carry out point 1-5 of our demands.

7.) All three enemy nations cannot debate points 1-6 and that they cannot propose any demands on us as part of this settlement.

No.

Captain John Alleluia
Acting Commander of Leafanistani Forces
HailandKill
23-05-2005, 00:26
Sinical if you try to help their exiled leaders ((Since their country ceases to be)) or help deter the peace keeping operations in Saharistan we will scour your nation from this earth.
Leafanistan
23-05-2005, 00:32
Sinical if you try to help their exiled leaders ((Since their country ceases to be)) or help deter the peace keeping operations in Saharistan we will scour your nation from this earth.

We have lost contact with FleetCom and are sending task force Zulu to find out what happened, however we have about 12 nuclear subs in our remaining ships and 6 missile Dreadnoughts. If you try to give asylum to their exiled leaders we will not hesitate to avenge the 15+ million lives he ended.
McKagan
23-05-2005, 00:36
10 F117's come into view over one in the fleet of Federation ships, they climb to a point much higher than the enemy air force could have shot down even before the massive assault.

"This looks like it's about over, y'know." One pilot said to the others shortly before they reached their maximum altitude.

The gates opened.

Napalm and tons of high explosive fell onto each of the last remaining air bases left in the country.


GSRN REPORTING!

"This is Robyn Gillenwater reporting. Moments ago the last remnents of the failing and outdated Saharistan Air Force was assaulted with devasting force. We have reports in that all of the airbases are ablaze, and that Marines have broken through to the outskirts of Baghdad.

After the other nations started pulling out the 27th Airbourne Division began assaulting the city itself.

The war is nearing it's end.

Out.
Willink
23-05-2005, 00:41
Saharistan has commited suicide,and killed almost 3 million civilians now bringing the civilian death toll in Saharistan to 9 million dead. This plus my casualties is around over 18 million. I propose Using there radioactive country for nuclear testing.
Leafanistan
23-05-2005, 00:42
Saharistan has commited suicide,and killed almost 3 million civilians now bringing the civilian death toll in Saharistan to 9 million dead. This plus my casualties is around over 18 million. I propose Using there radioactive country for nuclear testing.

Leafanistan has purchased large amounts of radiation "eating" equipment from an unnamed source and will collaborate with anyone capable of helping us clean what that idiot dictator did.
Willink
23-05-2005, 00:43
The Reminantes of the Saharistan Air arm are fleeing to other countries. I have orderd my air force to take down any airplane fleeing the country.
Willink
23-05-2005, 00:45
Good idea Leafanistan, after that we should divide the remains into Puppet governments, controlled by the victors of the war.
Sinical
23-05-2005, 00:46
I will not stand for this crime against Humanity. I personally will order my entire region to destroy you if you even TRY to use their contry for testing. This will not stand. I hope we can keep these negotians as peaceful as possible but if provoked, Affirmative Action shall be taken.

-Soundwave-
Confederate Dictator
Leafanistan
23-05-2005, 00:59
Task Force X-Ray of the combined 2nd, 3rd and 150th Expeditionary Force has been armed with TR-900AVR Bacteria and Bacterial Distributers which will be dropped via F-22 Raptors. The TR-900AVR bacterium reproduces quickly, floureseses near radiation, and will consume heavy metals and heavy isotopes. After they are sprayed they will be left alone for 10 years then removed carefully into barrels. These will then be subcontracted to a space faring nation who will take these up into a nearby star and have them consumed in thermonuclear fire.

We will start with areas that were once ariable (crop-growing), however for major urban areas we will have to level them and take all the concrete and mark those as nuclear waste.

Nimitz Carrier Sierra

20 F-22 Raptors take off with the Bacterial Distributers and begin to spray ariable areas of what remains of Saharistan.
Sinical
23-05-2005, 01:02
Following the f-22's in pursuit are a fleet of 30 SR-71 Blackbirds armed with deadly, rapid fire, v-2 Rockets.

I would advise you to abort mission. Now.
Halberdgardia
23-05-2005, 01:07
Following the f-22's in pursuit are a fleet of 30 SR-71 Blackbirds armed with deadly, rapid fire, v-2 Rockets.

I would advise you to abort mission. Now.

Stand down and recall your jets or face military action. You were not involved in the war, therefore you have no right to be making demands. Leafanistan's F-22s are not on a military mission, they are attempting to begin reversal of the radiation damage that currently covers the country of Saharistan. Stand down.
Leafanistan
23-05-2005, 01:10
Following the f-22's in pursuit are a fleet of 30 SR-71 Blackbirds armed with deadly, rapid fire, v-2 Rockets.

I would advise you to abort mission. Now.

I would advise you to redo your research. SR-71 Blackbirds are recon aircraft, flying too fast for normal bullets and missiles to function properly. V-2 rockets were developed by Nazi Germany to be used as BALLISTIC MISSILES, carrying these on planes is damned near impossible, you need like a Russian Super-cargo plane to carry them. For you to have such aircraft scrambled so quickly is pretty damned near impossible. Also for such a small nation to get SR-71 Blackbirds and to have more than the US is also damned near impossible.

Note: Firing on a nation with a population more than an order of magnitude bigger than yours is a bad idea.

ARMING I.G.N.O.R.E. CANNON
FIRING!
Leafanistan
23-05-2005, 01:14
Also if SR-71 and rapid fire V-2 stand not for I described, I'm on a land reclaiming mission, I am here to make this land livible again. I'm sure you don't have a problem with life do you? Unless that is why you want to down me. I do have another carrier off the coast, and with a total of about 60 Raptors not including those in the air, you have a pretty bad chance of making it out alive.
Sinical
23-05-2005, 01:16
What's a matter? Afraid that you may be Slaughtered by a nation smaller than yours? Nay I remind you of The American Revolution.

Also, the SR-71's are equiped with a weapons system in case of emergancy of being discovered durning their reconnosance.

Very Good, you watch the History Channel. I chose V-2 Rockets because I know they will get the Job done.

If still, you insist on proving your idiocy. I believe my Grandfather's P-51D Mustang could take out your Fleet of Raptors because of your poorly educated Pilots.
Halberdgardia
23-05-2005, 01:18
What's a matter? Afraid that you may be Slaughtered by a nation smaller than yours? Nay I remind you of The American Revolution.

Also, the SR-71's are equiped with a weapons system in case of emergancy of being discovered durning their reconnosance.

Very Good, you watch the History Channel. I chose V-2 Rockets because I know they will get the Job done.

If still, you insist on proving your idiocy. I believe my Grandfather's P-51D Mustang could take out your Fleet of Raptors because of your poorly educated Pilots.

The only idiot standing by his absurd viewpoint here is you.

The SR-71 (http://www.fas.org/irp/program/collect/sr-71.htm) is a pure reconnaissance craft, carrying NO weapons of ANY kind. Additionally, not only are V-2 rockets extremely primitive and hopelessly outclassed by more modern weapons, but they are also far too massive to be carried on virtually any aircraft.

You just got I.G.N.O.R.E.-pwned, buddy. Quit while you're ahead.
Sinical
23-05-2005, 01:19
Send your Fleet of your Damned Carrier. A B-52 armed with a Hydrogen Bomb should do you over. Don't make me turn this into World War III.
Ackerenia
23-05-2005, 01:20
Can you show a link or specs to the weapon system on a blackbird....cuz as far I'm aware....that space was for a camera. Another thing...you really can't say how well educated his pilots are.
Sinical
23-05-2005, 01:21
The only thing I am Against is the Death of more Civilians, if this does not occur, I am fine with you doing what you must. No Civies shall be harmed? Clear? If yoiu need support with your mission, I am sure I can provide some useful Help.
Ackerenia
23-05-2005, 01:23
It's Ackerenia's first priority to be sure that no innocent civilians are harmed...I'm sure this policy is the same with the other Allied Nations.
Leafanistan
23-05-2005, 01:23
What's a matter? Afraid that you may be Slaughtered by a nation smaller than yours? Nay I remind you of The American Revolution.

Also, the SR-71's are equiped with a weapons system in case of emergancy of being discovered durning their reconnosance.

Very Good, you watch the History Channel. I chose V-2 Rockets because I know they will get the Job done.

If still, you insist on proving your idiocy. I believe my Grandfather's P-51D Mustang could take out your Fleet of Raptors because of your poorly educated Pilots.

OOC: No they are not. SR-71s ARE NOT equiped with any weapons. With the exception of a 1 megaton nuclear bomb that CAN be carried the SR-71 is defenseless. Besides an SR-71 can't won't be able to carry a V-2 without it slowing it down significantly, it also cannot fit something that big internally. Even if you had V-2's they are useless as anti-aircraft weapons, they are Ballistic Missiles. My education system is one of the best in the world before other issues displaced that, and my pilots were trained by Bonstock as per buying his package, I think they'll prove a formidable match. Until you bring me proof you can carry a V-2 Rocket (developed by the Germans in WWII as a Ballistic Missile) in an SR-71 (a Mach 3 recon plane that outflies its own bullets) you will not be acknoledged.
Halberdgardia
23-05-2005, 01:25
The only thing I am Against is the Death of more Civilians, if this does not occur, I am fine with you doing what you must. No Civies shall be harmed? Clear? If yoiu need support with your mission, I am sure I can provide some useful Help.

How much more stupid can you get?! All of Saharistan's civilians are dead! (Barring those few refugees who fled the country, of course.)

The point of Leafanistan's F-22s was to release bacterial agents across Saharistan to clean up the radiation from all the nukes and make the country habitable again.

Honestly, your absurdity is almost as bad as al Zaraqwi's was.
Leafanistan
23-05-2005, 01:26
The only thing I am Against is the Death of more Civilians, if this does not occur, I am fine with you doing what you must. No Civies shall be harmed? Clear? If yoiu need support with your mission, I am sure I can provide some useful Help.

OOC: WHAT CIVILIANS?! The damned dictator killed everyone who didn't flee the country, the ground is clocking 400 roentgen/hr more than deadly. Jesus H. Christ....

Note: Nice capitalization.

Oh forgive my math, the ground is clocking 4000 roentgens in urban areas, 400 roentgens elsewhere.
Sinical
23-05-2005, 01:29
Do not insult me. I am easily Set off. Damn you are a fool.
Leafanistan
23-05-2005, 01:31
Do not insult me. I am easily Set off. Damn you are a fool.

How so? You took a 1960's recon aircraft then proceded to say that you mounted a massive WWII-era ballistic missile on it to attack a peaceful mission to reclaim radioactive land. I think my facts are rather accurate for places nuked 2 sometimes even 3 times.
Halberdgardia
23-05-2005, 01:33
Do not insult me. I am easily Set off. Damn you are a fool.

Quit while you're way fucking ahead, man. Although at the rate you're going, it won't be long before you no longer can quit because you'll be so far gone.
Sinical
23-05-2005, 01:34
If you want war, fine. Otherwise, I would advise extreme caution.
Leafanistan
23-05-2005, 01:35
If you want war, fine. Otherwise, I would advise extreme caution.

OOC: Screw this, I'm Ignoring any and all aircraft from Sinical unless he has a very very good goddamned reason.

The mission will continue as planned. We have contracted someone in 10 NS years to take away the sludge.

Note: Leafanistan is ranked 1st in the region and 16,142nd in the world for Smartest Citizens.
Sinical is ranked 52,059th in the world for Smartest Citizens.
Halberdgardia
23-05-2005, 02:12
"This is HNN LIVE at the Presidental Residence in Halberdgardia City, where President Kir Kanos is about to make an official announcement regarding the end of the Saharistan conflict..."

President Kir Kanos takes the podium.

"Citizens of Halberdgardia, I come before you to inform you of many momentous events that are occurring.

"Our nation has suffered through difficult times in recent months, but we have endured. We were unjustly attacked by an insane dictator, forcing us into war, but we prevailed. We were attacked with weapons of mass destruction, and though we lost many brave civilian volunteers, our military escaped unscathed.

"There is little I can say to the families who lost a friend or relative in the war, except that they died honorably in defense of our great nation, and that the government of Halberdgardia is indebted to them for their noble sacrifice.

"Let this terrible war serve as a reminder to those who would threaten our nation that you will not prevail against the forces of freedom. But let this war also serve as a reminder to all nations of the world of the horrible destructive power of weapons of mass destruction, and of the threat they pose in the hands of nations like Saharistan, and crazed dictators like Musab al Zaraqwi.

"Now, our plans for the future. Our ally Leafanistan has undertaken responsibility for restoring the land of Saharistan and undoing the radiation damage done by the massive number of nuclear weapons detonated in Saharistan. Halberdgardia is pledging its support to rebuild the nation of Saharistan as soon as the decontamination efforts are completed. We will help the few remaining Saharistani refugees reclaim their country and will help insure that they do not suffer a repeat of the atrocities of Musab al Zaraqwi.

"Finally, the Halberdgardian military will NOT be returning home, as of yet. They will continue to remain on full deployment to assist in the hunt for the fugitive Musab al Zaraqwi and his accomplice, international terrorist figure Nina Myers. We will ensure that these two are brought to justice.

"And now, with our plans for the future outlined, I hereby declare that hostilities in Saharistan have ended. Our nation remains at war, but no longer will Saharistan pose a threat to the world. Thank you."

[OOC: Yeah, I know it's kind of obvious that hostilities have been over for awhile, but I felt like I needed to write something up for closure purposes.]
Leafanistan
23-05-2005, 02:38
Very good, now its time to arrest that bastard.
Soviet leaders
23-05-2005, 02:52
Soviet leaders fleet turns around and sends a transmission to the nations
This is Soviet leaders fleet we have warnings of High nuclear readings and we request what just happen just now
END TRANSMISSION

To: ALL Nations
From: Soviet leaders

We are nutural and we are going to help in the fight agianst the nation that we were with we see the light and we will now help you in getting rid of the leader of that nation we how ever do not like the mass use of Nuclear weapons in this conflict and we hope that both nations stop.
Leafanistan
23-05-2005, 02:57
Soviet leaders fleet turns around and sends a transmission to the nations
This is Soviet leaders fleet we have warnings of High nuclear readings and we request what just happen just now
END TRANSMISSION

To: ALL Nations
From: Soviet leaders

We are nutural and we are going to help in the fight agianst the nation that we were with we see the light and we will now help you in getting rid of the leader of that nation we how ever do not like the mass use of Nuclear weapons in this conflict and we hope that both nations stop.

All hostilities are over and I am now reclaiming the land with radiation absorbing bacteria, hopefully in about 100-150 years this place will be livable again.
The Yoopers
24-05-2005, 18:17
Formal Declaration of the Monarch:

While we approve of the effort to restore the land of Saharistan, we are offering protection to it's government and any of it's remaining citizens. We do not approve of their use of nuclear weapons in this conflict, but their use was not unprovoked. Any who try to hunt them down or harm them in any way will be dealt with accordingly. We sided with them early on and will not change or position simply because the situation has changed.
The Yoopers
24-05-2005, 20:36
OOC: Sorry I wasn't more active, but I was gone for two days. I probably could have saved a lot of people.
Leafanistan
25-05-2005, 01:08
OOC: Sorry I wasn't more active, but I was gone for two days. I probably could have saved a lot of people.

I doubt you coulda stopped the chemical WMDs, and then the subsequent nuclear ones.
The Yoopers
25-05-2005, 16:11
OOC:I can't seem to find the post hwere I deploied my forces into the area, but it was something like 2400 F/A-18E Super Hornets on 30 aircraft carriers and a massive, state of the art Navy with anti missle systems. Yeah, I know that's worth a couple hundred billion dollars, but we have a defense budget ten times that.
Leafanistan
26-05-2005, 01:04
Hundreds of nukes and chemical missiles are hard to stop. Besides raining radioactive and chemical components is still a danger to others.
Overbear
26-05-2005, 13:47
Formal Declaration of the Monarch:

While we approve of the effort to restore the land of Saharistan, we are offering protection to it's government and any of it's remaining citizens. We do not approve of their use of nuclear weapons in this conflict, but their use was not unprovoked. Any who try to hunt them down or harm them in any way will be dealt with accordingly. We sided with them early on and will not change or position simply because the situation has changed.

We remind the monarch, that it was SAHARISTAN that made the first atack by launching aganst a fleet in international waters. We would hope you would realise the error of your declaration and retract your offer. The republic of overbear will continue to offer bounty on all government officials, military officers above the rank of NCO, and scientests of saharistan birth, that were part of that former countries power structure during, and before the war that did not leave and denouce their government.

Obie Sunstreak
Prez for life, Republic of Overbear.
The Yoopers
26-05-2005, 17:36
An Official statement from the Monarch:

I'm sorry, I was under the impression Overbear had been obliterated as a whole for using the chemical weapons and escilating this entire incident into what it became? If I'm wrong, I'll be more than happy to make my intelligence reports I've read correct. It'd give my forces in the area something to actually do.
Overbear
26-05-2005, 19:21
An Official statement from the Monarch:

I'm sorry, I was under the impression Overbear had been obliterated as a whole for using the chemical weapons and escilating this entire incident into what it became? If I'm wrong, I'll be more than happy to make my intelligence reports I've read correct. It'd give my forces in the area something to actually do.

ooc No I pulled out of the main fight when space whatever and a few others started getting gamemodde on everyone.
Hogsweat
28-07-2005, 07:15
As of 2:07 PM July 28th,
The United Kingdom of Hogsweat sees it hereby fit, by deliverance of the message by our sacred Motherland and the translation by our Holy Monarch,
to declare a state of war between Saharistan and anyone supporting them. We show our support for Leafanistan, in these times and we also mobilise a tiny part of our navy to this theatre of operations. We suggest to anyone supporting Saharistan that they back down immediately. We are also willing to lift our weapons trade embargo upon Space Union (Remember those CVSN's you wanted?) if they state their neutrality in this conflict.
We are not afraid to use our brutal force and our overwhelming military might and industrial capability and power to remove from power anyone that threatens our ally Leafanistan.
Foreign Minister Hayley McCarthur,
UKH Foreign Ministry,
London, 5th Union Street
http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/hogsweat.jpg


Force Y
Combined Task Force: Sheepskin[CoTF]
4,860,455 Tonnes Total
63 Ships Total
Location: En Route to Saharistan
-Illustrious Class CVSN [2,350,000]
HMS Motherland
-Vanguard Class BBGN [560,000]
HMS Vanguard
-2x Royal Sovereign BBGN [395,000]
HMS Royal Sovereign
HMS Royal Oak
-2x Furious Class CVEN [75,000]
HMS Boxer
HMS Fighter
-4x Fort Victoria Class AORN [56,000]
Fort Rodney
Fort Nelson
Fort Bravery
Fort London
-4x Albion Class LPDN [48,250]
HMS Summer-rose
HMS Wilted Leaf
HMS Striking Badger
HMS Deployment
-4x Terrain Class ARN [33,000]
HMS Pontoon
HMS Marsh
HMS Crop
HMS River Gorge
-2x Wave Class LSLN [32,400]
HMS Sailor
HMS Milton Keynes
-4x Edinburgh Class CLGN [24,000]
HMS Ender
HMS Ecstatic
HMS Embankment
HMS Entanglement
-24x Type 85 Class DDGN [9,921]
HMS Discovered
HMS Incapacitated
HMS Entangled
HMS Informed
HMS Brokered
HMS Dated
HMS Administered
HMS Entwined
HMS Engineered
HMS Careered
HMS Graduated
HMS Undermined
HMS Drafted
HMS Multiplied
HMS Accomplished
HMS Reminded
HMS Presented
HMS Commissioned
HMS Enlightened
HMS Battlehardened
HMS Fatigued
HMS Interdicted
HMS Destabilised
HMS Defragmented
-6x Type 25 Class FFGN [7,560]
HMS Blackhorse
HMS Southern
HMS Annual
HMS Disposal
HMS Electric
HMS Compulsory
-8 Predator Class SSN [5,690]
SSN061
SSN062
SSN063
SSN064
SSN065
SSN066
SSN067
SSN068
-1x Snowdonia Class SSBN [19,921]
HMS Snowed-Down
McKagan
28-07-2005, 07:29
OOC: Duuuude.

This war ended AGES ago, then the SWC (all who supported Leafanistan, including Space Union) rebuilt the nuclear waste land of Saharistan into a nice country.

Then the original player of that nation came back as another and tried to liberate it, we defeated him.

Omar al Z. is frozen in a Leafanistani prison, his brother who tried the last insurgency is frozen in one of my prisons, and the last nation to support "Global Jihad" (terrorist cell out of the ashes of Saharistan) has became a province of the SWC, just like Saharistan.

Now Global Jihad is working on a plot to detonate a nuke inside Halebergadia or Leafanistan.
Hogsweat
28-07-2005, 07:32
Sucks. I guess I ought to read post dates in future=.=
McKagan
28-07-2005, 07:37
Do you want to join the SWC?

We could use an active member to help in the next war on Global Jihad...

This RP was my rookie one, and i'm still involved in the spinoffs of it.
Tannenmille
28-07-2005, 08:35
Boy, that's gotta be embarassing, Hogsweat. :p
Willink
22-09-2005, 20:55
I figured for the hell of it, to bump this, and find anyones oppinions on the war itself, and was in my case, the best war i have ever RP'ed in.
Willink
22-09-2005, 21:37
Anyone ?