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Official bulletin-Saharistani People's News Agency (SPNA)

Due to the support Saharistan gave to the People's Front of Jerobia (PFJ) in their just cause of democracy against the dictatorship ruling Jerobia, Leafanistan has decided, without trying to reslove this issue diplomatically, to attack us.

A STATE OF WAR NOW EXISTS BETWEEN LEAFANISTAN AND THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF SAHARISTAN.

Recently Saharistan made several weapons purchases from two nations, these weapons will now be included in the arms our military posseses.

All men and women between the ages of 16 to 65 have been called up for military service, to defend our nation!

Factlist of the Saharistani Revolutionary Armed Forces (SRAF)

* Army-320,000 men/women.

* Air Force-10,000 men/women.

* Navy-5000 men/women.

* Border Guard-5000 men/women.

* People's Guard (special/elite army units)-15,000 men/women.

Total SRAF manpower strength: 355,000 men/women.

TANKS:

* 30 T-72.
* 270 M11.
* 850 T-55.
* 1000 T34.

Total tank strenght: 2150.

APCs:

* 80 BMP-3.
* 350 BTR-60.
* 75 M-113.

Total APC strength: 505.

* 400 KAMAZ-4326 transport trucks.

Attack Helicopters:

* 110 AH-64 Apache.
* 12 Mi-24.

Total attack helicopter strength: 122.

Transport Helicopters:

* 70 Mi-8.
* 15 Mi-6.

Total transport helicopter strength: 85.

Combat Aircraft:

* 5 MIG-29.
* 45 F-14 Tomcat.
* 70 MIG-21.
* 130 MIG-19.
* 40 MIG-17.

Total combat aircraft strength: 290.

Due to enforced conscription of all 16-65 yr. olds into the Revolutionary Militia (which is seperate from the SRAF), the Revolutionary Militia has the following strength:

Revolutionary Militia-900,000 men/women.

The Revolutionary Militia (RM) is organised on the basis that those called up serve and fight in the RM in their own locality, in each city, town, village and district.

Those civilians exepmt from RM service are as follows:

*Doctors/nurses/medics.
*Armaments factory workers.
*Oil/fuel/energy industry workers.
*Communication workers.
*Farmers for basic foodstuffs.
*All shop workers selling basic needs (food/water/medicine).

All students/teachers/non essential workers have been drafted into the RM.

All RM fighters are armed with the following per RM fighter:

* AK-47 (with 3 ammo clips per RM fighter).
* 1 hand grenade.
* Combat dagger.

3 RM divisions (each RM division 2500 fighters) have SAM-7, as anti-aircraft divisions.

6 RM divisions have RPG-7, as anti tank/armour divisions.

7,000 RM fighters also are suicide bombers, not organised into any military structure, but fight in guerrilla/terrorist style attacks and even will wear civilian clothing to get to their target. Apart from their dynamite belt, the suicide bombers will be armed with a concealed Berreta 92 pistol.

End of bulliten

Official bulletin-Saharistani People's News Agency (SPNA)

Today, in face of the possible threat of an imperialistic invasion by Leafanistan on Saharistan, The Supreme Revolutionary Leader, President Musab al Zarqawi adressed the People's Assembly of Saharistan:

In his speech, the President called for a vote on mobilising the national defence network of the Saharistani nation.

Upon the conclusion of his speech, the People's Assembly voted, with all 250 members voting in favour of the defence plan.

The Defence plan is as follows:

1.) All adult men/women between the ages of 16-65 are to be called up for immediete military service.

2.) All beaches in Saharistan are to be secured with landmines and barbed wire, along with army and Revolutionary Militia units being deployed behind the beach defences to tie down the naval assault of the invading army.

3.) With the exception of Saharistani military aircraft, air logisitcal support and all foreign aircraft supporting the military defence of Saharistan, all other aircraft flying in our airspace used for civilian purposes and all foreign aircraft not supporting Saharistan will be SHOT DOWN WITHOUT ANY WARNING!

4.) A curfew has been put in place for all Saharistani civilians between 8 a:m and 7 p:m, unless authorised by the government to move about out of the curfew.

5.) Martial law has been declared with all regions being put under the control of the Saharistani Revolutionary Armed Forces (SRAF) and a Central Military Council (CMC) will now run the nation.

6.) The CMC is chaired by the President, co-vice chaired by the Minister of Defence and the Operations Commander of the SRAF. All other members of the cabinet and the commanders of the Army, Navy, Airforce and the Revolutionary Militia are members of the CMC.

End of Bulletin

OOC: You do know drafting every person from ages 16-65 will obliterate your workforce, and annihalate your economy, right?

?? how is it that your population is 7 million, yet about 14% of your population is in the military ?? Shhouldnt it be like .5 % ?


oh and going to war with a nation nearly 100 times bigger than you does not strike me as smart.

I can be your ally if you want. TG me.

(A letter arives at all parties involved in the conflicts presidential/military seat)

Estemed members of the military,

It has come to our attention that your conflict has become quite bitter and without end. To that we the republic of overbear offer our help...to the highest bidder.

What do we offer, well of course the ultimate weapon, the winner of the bidding war would be the proud recipient of one of our premade, chemo/biological weapons platforms(CBWP). This includes the weapon of choice (ebola, anthrax-d, anthrax-u, VX-4 Nerve toxins, and a host of custom made chemical and biological pathagens), 4 delivery systems custom designed for said weapon, and training in use, and deployment of said weapon.

We look forward to a potential contract with whomever wishes.

Obie Sunstreak
Prez for life, Armed republic of Overbear

It was not my choice to go to war.

Leafanistan refused dialogue, which Saharistan wanted, and called up it's invasion fleet. Luckily for me, Leafanistan is offline giving me more time.

I thought the 5% rule applied to standing armies, if you look at the SRAF and exclude the Militia, you can see the SRAF strength of 355,000 is about 6% of my nation.

But in time of war and the threat of being occupied, a call up of more people is the only way to survive.

Besides, if you saw my first post, all ESSENTIAL workers that keep our nation running and help the war effort, DON'T join the Militia!

Only people (who in wartime have jobs that are not needed) like students, teachers and service sector workers like hairdressers, clothes shops etc... are called up.

My nations survival and independence is MORE important than students finishing their degree's or someone buying more clothes.

All workers that make weapons, food, fuel and sell those things as well as health workers KEEP those jobs.

From the office of the Presidency of the People's Republic of Saharistan

To: Concador

Your offer of an alliance between our two great nations is most welcome.

Due to the fact that our waters are now unsafe, please use the main civilian airport (now closed to civil flights and used for the war effort) of our capital city, Baghdad.

You can also use our Al Zarqawi Air Force base for the same purpose of sending us military aid and any troops you may wish to send over.

If your nation has WMDs then please inform Leafanistan that you would be prepared to use them as a way of hopefully making them back down and avoiding this sensless conflict.

From the President of the People's Republic of Saharistan

Musab al Zarqawi

I have officially denouced the current attempts to sell Chemical weapons to Nations on a insufficent system of "Bidding" of Overbear. I hope other nations will take this approach.
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I have sided with leafanistan and warn you that my nuclear arsenal is on red alert and may be deployed to the region.

Ian Rousell, president
New Emirate of Willink

OOC:
I would rethink calling up teachers,

A stupid people is a conquered people. Should this war drag on, your next generation us going to be to stupid to fight, or, unable to return to a peaceful life after the war, since they will have known no other way. Also, after the end of the war, you’re industry sectors are going to take a large hit due to uneducated and unskilled labor applicants.

Also, as a friendly OOC note,

Don’t forget that even though (s) he is offline, you have to give them a chance to respond to any attacks you may make, I’m sure you’re very much aware of that…. but, it’s a common thing to be caught up in the excitement of an RP, and not give the other participants chances to respond.9

Now, an IC note to Overbear, and nations involved

We are most…displeased, with your callus attitude to the sanctity of human life, by offer biological and chemical weapons to warring nations. We are even more displeased at your attempt to profit in the pain and misery of others

Therefore, pending the permission of Saharistan, a flotilla of Transnapastani warships will depart of international waters surrounding Saharistan, in an attempt to interdict any suspect shipments of biological or chemical weapons. Other nations shipping into and out of the area will not be molested

Should you attempt to infiltrate with these weapons, a state of hostilities may occur between our two nations, and I’m positive you with to avoid this.

This same offer extends to Leafanistan, though it is VERY IMPORTANT that both nations realize that the warships will not participate in any combat actions having to do with the war in any ways shape or form, unless directly fired upon.

We urge both nations to decline this heinous offer, w urge both to fight fair, and not endanger civilian populace to the infections of biological and chemical warfare, nor to subject ones armed servicemen and women to the horrors of said atrocities.

Our fleet is ready to depart once the permission is given.

Signed:
Executer Viki Hessian
Executer of Transnapastain and the Church of Gods Will

“Director-General Davis?” she said into the satellite phone

“Yes ma’am?” replied the Director-General of the Office of Internal Security

“I’m sure you are aware of the events in Leafanistan and Saharistan, as well as our offer…and the weapons deal?” she paused. “I’ve already sent word to Star Island, Grand Admiral Pherson will have already begun activating the 1st and 2nd Expeditionary Fleets.”

“Of course.”

“Then, I’m sure you already have the nations in questions port faculties under constant satellite observation, and are attempting to activate HUMINT assets in the area?”

“Speak no further, Executer, for it is being done. We’re also pulling in data from the Kaukolastani ISA, and Nailiak NSF, as well as the NNAO over in Nova Hope.”

“Wonderful, keep me informed.” She said, cold and precise

“As always ma’am.” And the click of the line disconnecting

To: President Musab al Zaraqwi of The People's Republic of Saharistan, President Obie Sunstreak of The Armed Republic of Overbear
From: Kenix Kil, Secretary of State, The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia
Re: Saharistan/Leafanistan War

The The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardiacondemns The Armed Republic of Overbear for offering its weapons of mass destruction to The People's Republic of Saharistan. The People's Republic of Saharistan is anything but a "people's republic": it is a brutal dictatorship, led by an aggressive, WMD-seeking, iron-fisted ruler. It therefore follows that Saharistan should not be allowed access to weapons of mass destruction. Before you go through with an exchange of weapons of mass destruction with Saharistan, President Sunstreak, perhaps you should consider how heavily the deaths of millions of innocents that are likely to occur if Saharistan gains weapons of mass destruction will weigh on your conscience.

Additionally, The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia condemns The People's Republic of Saharistan for continuing its pursuit of weapons of mass destruction even after being warned against such pursuits by the Anti-WMD Club. Further pursuit of weapons of mass destruction from this point forward, or the use of weapons of mass destruction by The People's Republic of Saharistan on ANY nation, will result in being brought to the attention of the AWC as a repeat offender of U.N. regulations regarding weapons of mass destruction, and could possibly result in war with the powers of the AWC.

Finally, due to the close proximity of this conflict and to ensure the safety of the citizens of our nation, the military forces of The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia have been placed on DEFCON 3 alert. However, The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia will remain neutral in the conflict as long as The People's Republic of Saharistan refrains from the use of weapons of mass destruction and from military action against The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia or its allies.

We hope we have made our position on this matter clear.

Respectfully,
Kenix Kil
Secretary of State
The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia

Executer Viki Hessian,

We find it most reprehencible(sp) that you would force your own wills and views on other countries. We only offer a fair system, selling to whomever wishes to buy our products. What they then do with our products are not of our consern.

However, let it be known now, if a country you have decided to "blockade" purchaces our products, we will ship them as agreed on. Any atempt to stop or slow a vessel flying the flag of the republic of overbear will be seen as a direct act of agression and a decleration of war. To be met with a instant and total launch of our defenceive assets aganst all major cities in the offending country...

Surely we do not wish this do we? It would be better for your, and othe countries to educate each other on the safe handling of our products, and the seaking of peace. Untell then we will continue, in the capitalist way of the world, to offer our products.

Obie Sunstreak
Prez for life, Republic of Overbear.

Kenix Kil,


We understand full and well what you have said, and while we can agree. It would go aganst the policys of our country to ban any one country from purchaceing our weapon platforms. They are for sale to all, regardless of internal politics.

We do not mean to sound cold, however this is a world run on the dollar, we, a small country, only seak to make our way in it. However considering your conserns, we shall also put up for sale anti-toxins and anti-virll products normaly reserved only for a country that has purchaced a weapons platform.


We hope this small consideration can set your mind at ease

Obie Sunstreak,
Prez for life, Republic of Overbear.

President Obie Sunstreak

We do not fear your weapons, for we have absolute confidence in our ballistic defenses, and I assure you, a ballistic missiles would be the ONLY conceivable way to penetrate our air or sea space.

Our regional air defense system, codenamed MADAE (link to production and technical specs to be found at the end of this post) is 2nd to none in the world. Our “Seabelt” buffer zone extends well beyond the furthest extent of our maritime claims. You have no conceivable hope of harming us, so I suggest you dispense with threats, which you cannot act upon.

We seek to impress our will upon no one, simply to avoid a holocaust of innocent lives. Wars can be fought, and won, without the use of biological or chemical weapons. Our intelligence indicates you maintain and rather sizable “solider for hire” program. Would it not, then, be more prudent to sell your services to this nation? You’ll make more money in the long run, as this war is bound to be long and tedious, and you’ll save yourselves the ill will of several nations within the international community. Historically, the sale or use of weapons of mass destruction has brought swift retribution, and I assure you, your stockpiles of weapons will be no match for the onslaught of nations you will suffer should you carry this plan through, and that is no threat, only a promise and warning.

As we have to received the green light for our operation, our ships sit at anchor in their ports, at the ready, but unmoving. I should hope they don’t have to set sail.

Also, as a note, if we are acting on behalf of Saharistan, and operating within their territorial waters, then thy are within their rights to search and seize vessels. They would simply be…contracting this job out to another nations, to focus their military power on the war at hand.

I should hope we have no further misunderstanding. Good Day

Executer Viki Hessian.

Links

MADAE
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=297463
It covers the entire region, which i am a part of. If you want to question its legitimacy, TG K-stan

Dear commanders of overbear, your intentions will bring the death to millions of civilians and complete destruction of the economys of these nations, and act of bypassing the blockades will be seen as an act of war to multiple nations. Visit this link to see my ground weapons that will be sent to region if war does occur Link (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=419769)

To: President Obie Sunstreak of The Armed Republic of Overbear
From: Kenix Kil, Secretary of State, The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia
Re: Your Offer

Although we understand the intent with which your anti-toxin and anti-viral offer was made, we find the fact that you would use our warning to refrain from offering your weapons of mass destruction to a dangerous dictator to instead attempt to increase your profit margin reprehensible and worthy of the strongest condemnation. The best solution for all powers involved here would be for your nation to unconditionally pull out of this conflict and remain neutral, not providing any assistance to any of the warring powers in any manner whatsoever. Keep in mind this: should you choose to ignore our warnings and provide Saharistan with weapons of mass destruction, and al Zaraqwi uses them, your nation will be remembered as being responsible for the massacre of millions of innocents. Let this conflict be decided by conventional arms, and not by the slaughter of innocent millions.

Respectfully,
Kenix Kil
Secretary of State
The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia

President Obie Sunstreak

We do not fear your weapons, for we have absolute confidence in our ballistic defenses, and I assure you, a ballistic missiles would be the ONLY conceivable way to penetrate our air or sea space.

Our regional air defense system, codenamed MADAE (link to production and technical specs to be found at the end of this post) is 2nd to none in the world. Our “Seabelt” buffer zone extends well beyond the furthest extent of our maritime claims. You have no conceivable hope of harming us, so I suggest you dispense with threats, which you cannot act upon.

We seek to impress our will upon no one, simply to avoid a holocaust of innocent lives. Wars can be fought, and won, without the use of biological or chemical weapons. Our intelligence indicates you maintain and rather sizable “solider for hire” program. Would it not, then, be more prudent to sell your services to this nation? You’ll make more money in the long run, as this war is bound to be long and tedious, and you’ll save yourselves the ill will of several nations within the international community. Historically, the sale or use of weapons of mass destruction has brought swift retribution, and I assure you, your stockpiles of weapons will be no match for the onslaught of nations you will suffer should you carry this plan through, and that is no threat, only a promise and warning.

As we have to received the green light for our operation, our ships sit at anchor in their ports, at the ready, but unmoving. I should hope they don’t have to move.

Also, as a note, if we are acting on behalf of Saharistan, and operating within their territorial waters, then thy are within their rights to search and seize vessels. They would simply be…contracting this job out to another nations, to focus their military power on the war at hand.

I should hope we have no further misunderstanding. Good Day

Executer Viki Hessian.

Links

MADAE
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=297463
It covers the entire region, which i am a part of. If you want to question its legitimacy, TG K-stan

Executer Viki Hessian,

Again you resort to the need to force your will on others. We find this most reprehenceable. Our products are for all to buy, no one country can tell another they may not purchace our products for their own private use. Would you block free trade and set a presidence of ending world trade?

However, while we maintain our right to defend our ships, and our land in any manner we see fit, we feel your threts must be taken seriously. I am sad to say our ceo of warfare has declared your country a class A threat to us. At this time we will cease all talk and negotian, and consider any ship flying your flag as hostile to ours.

Obie Sunstreak,
Pres for life, Republic of Overbear

(on a small paper folded inside the official letter)

On a personal note to you, I hope all this **** waveing can end and we can find common ground to walk on. Its not good for trade and its not good for my countries coffers. I am sorry to be so crude, and trust me if the board of directors knew I added this to their carfuly crafted letter I would find myself in more trouble than its worth. However, I feel we can work out some kind of arangement that will alow us to continue our goal of a free market country, and end this seamingly hostile intent by you.

Obie Sunstreak.

You say inforcing your will on smaller countries ? You are making an offer to sell Chemical/Biological weapons to a small nation, which will lead to its ultimate downfall.



Ian Rousell,President
Emirate of Willink

Message from the office of the Presidency of the People's Republic of Saharistan

To: All concerned nations

The People's Republic of Saharistan does NOT have any WMD in ANY of it's branches of the SRAF or the Revolutionary Militia.

Our nations military has only conventional weapons at it's disposal.

We have placed a bid on the WMD that Overbear has offered, but most certainly Leafanistan would outbid us, due to our limited funds.

If Saharistan wins the WMD bid, then we would ONLY use WMD on Leafanistan if it uses WMD FIRST or if they have got to the point of nearly defeating our military forces and therefore giving us NO OTHER OPNTION!

As to some nations concern that if we had WMD and used it on the military forces of Leafanistan, why should ANYONE feel sympathetic for them???

They are the agressors and they are they ones attacking us!

It's their decision to throw their troops into conflict and send them to their deaths, make this point not to Saharistan but to Leafanistan!

To: Halberdgardia

Your bizzare claim that we are 'aggressive' is not understood at all by Saharistan.

Who started this war, the answer is LEAFANISTAN!

And if you refer to Saharistan's support for the Democratic Resistance Movement in Jerobia, how may I ask, does supporting a group that fights for freedom against a dictatorship constitute as 'aggressive'?

May I remind you that Saharistan's support for the Revolution in Jerobia was only that of giving small arms and money, we have NO troops or agents in Jerobia.

All of this, in stark contrast to Leafanistan (a dictatorship itself, but you only point this out against Saharistan and not Leafanistan) which backs, WITH troops, money and heavy arms supplies, the dictatorship in Jerobia.

You take a most hypocritical stance when saying that under ANY curcumstances, you attack us if we use WMD, even if that means Leafanistan strikes us with WMD first!

You do NOT mention the fact that Leafanistan could have WMD, nor do you seem to care if they would use WMD on Saharistan's population. Or are Saharistani civilians not worthy of your so-called 'moral conscience'?

Also Saharistan would like to know about how you get your intelligence regarding your alleged pursuit of WMD. Before this conflict, Saharistan made an agreement with the Penpusher Confederacy NOT to attain WMD status UNTIL our population reached 100 million.

However in light of the coming invasion we HAVE to make this one exception and will ONLY use WMD on Leafanistan if it uses them first of they are on the verge of destroying us.

Our appeal to allies to threaten Leafanistan with THEIR WMDs is a way of hopefully bringing Leafanistan back to it's senses and calling of their invasion, thereby SAVING LIFES on BOTH sides!

To: Transnapastain

Saharistan will cancel it's bid of WMD from Overbear if you promise the following:

1.) You can 100% guarantee that you will ALSO blockade the coast of Leafanistan and prevent them from buying the WMDs from Overbear or ANY other nation for that matter.

2.) You can remian neutral, but if Leafanistan uses WMD first, you will join the war on our side.

3.) You can help Saharistan with any threats of WMD attack from other would be 'allies' of Leafanistan.

From the President of the People's Republic of Saharistan

Musab al Zarqawi

OIS Headquarters
Office of Director-General Davis
Valhalla Command Center
Transnapastain

“So…this is interesting….” muttered Sub-Commander Fires

“Indeed it is, very interesting.” nodded Director-General Davis, puffing on his cigar.

“Well, it makes sense, no cooperate nation wants to make an enemy, though they know its inevitable. Someone else’s war is good for their bossiness, not a war of their own. This wasn’t unexpected.” He paused, taking a long drag from the cigar. “I don’t particularly want to see this come to armed conflict, its not worth it, honestly, too much spent on to little gained.” Another drag. “Reply to them in a manner to match their harshness, say we will defend ourselves should they fire upon us…blah blah. Then add that some…compromise could be made. At the moment, all we can do is complain if they export the weapons, since we can’t move to block, its funny how satellites fail, sometimes….and how images can be distorted. Though, I feel the need to point out that we aren’t threatening to take any hostile actions against their homelands, now to harm their crews or ships in anyway, should the blockade go through. We merely wish to avoid the dispersion of these weapons to an irresponsible nation, it would be to all of our benefits if they reneged on the chemical deal.”

“But, they’ll take a loss in profit.” Suggested Fires

“Well, I’m sure that’s a drop in the bucket for these sell-swords.” Another long drag, and smoke billowing into the air. “But, maybe, some sort of recompense can be arranged, should they accept their end of the bargain.

To sum up: I don’t want to see it come to war, I don’t want to bother with it. We simply request that Overbear renege on the chemical weapons, and replace the offer with something more, conventional, to use a pun.

Of course, if you decided to continue with the weapons sales, I wont have to get involved, enough nations have already dog-piled that sticking my hand in would be akin to diving head first into a beehive.

To: President Musab al Zaraqwi of The People's Republic of Saharistan
From: Kenix Kil, Secretary of State, The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia
Re: Rebuttal

First off, let me suggest that you change the prefix of your nation to something more suitable and accurate than "People's Republic." Perhaps something along the lines of "Dictatorship," "Armed Republic," or "Rogue Nation" would be more appropriate.

Secondly, you have misunderstood our position regarding the use of WMDs in this conflict. While we have no desire for your nation to use them, neither do we wish to see Leafanistan use WMDs either. We have repeatedly stressed in our dealings with you that we do not wish to see the proliferation and/or use of WMDs by ANY nation, though it would be foolish to think that all nations with WMDs will exercise such restraint. All we ask both sides to do is refrain from the use of WMDs, and exercise the restraint typical of responsible nations.

Thirdly, we personally find your position regarding the Democratic Resistance Movement in Jerobia rather ironic, given that you, Mr. Zaraqwi, are, in short, an iron-fisted dictator, and one who has completely outlawed democratic elections in your own country!

Fourthly, we would like to know where you get your intelligence, as all evidence I have seen shows nothing of this alleged pact between you and the Penpusher Confederacy that binds you to cease your illegal pursuit of WMDs.

Finally, we are glad to see that you have not abandoned all pretense of logic, and that you have not threatened The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia or any of her allies. However, our military forces will remain on DEFCON 3 alert for the duration of your conflict with Leafanistan.

We hope we have made our position sufficiently clear.

Respectfully,
Kenix Kil
Secretary of State
The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia

We will give the nation of Saharistan a loan if they wish to take it the amount we will give you to help your econ is $4,000,000,000,000 you will have to pay back $1,023,366,960.00 for 2 years after hte war and if you accept we will help you more than this but for now we will give you this

We would help you if you accept
100,000 professional soldiers
1 navy fleet
2,000 barrles of oil per week for the tanks

“Absolutely not!” screamed the Executer, her fist slamming into the oak table.

The other members of the Synod winced, for the Executer rarely grew agitated, but, when she did, she had a reputation for cracking skulls.

“We can not afford involvement in this affair, as it is, we have never allowed us to be caught up in entangling alliances, we have never forced ourselves into a position where we are obligated to aide a nation we’ve had no previous contact with. We cannot allow ourselves to become their shield in this brewing storm. We can position the blockade of both nations, we can interdict the sale of weapons, but we can’t not be forced to take sides and fight with them. We must not allow our soldiers to die on a foreign battlefield that we have nothing to do with, nor anything to gain by.” She paused, and added, quieter. “We don’t know who’s watching Leafanistan back, so we cant agree to fight what we do not know.”

“Executer, we can blockade Saharistan with no problem, but we can not move to interdict sales to Leafanistan without their permission.” One of the Synod members said

“I am aware, but we can not agree to their conditions as they are.”

“Intelligence indicates that Leafanistan has their own arsenal of WMD, and would most likely not bid on the deal from Overbear.” Reported Director-General Davis

“Speaking of Overbear, they threaten us with war? How insolent. Perhaps they should be made example of?”

“Executer, don’t you think that a bit rash, considering the precarious position of the situation as it stands?” asked Davis

“Perhaps.” She admitted

“Indeed, lets not start any more conflicts than needed.” Added another Synod member, followed by mummers of agreement.

“So its decided. Now, what of Saharistan?” asked the Executer

“We get them to drop demands 2 and 3, we gain Leafanistan permission for the third party interdiction, though its unlikely they’ll buy into the products, and we continue with the operations.” Added Supreme Commander Hendrix.

“I think it more prudent if we do not blockade the nations.” Added Davis quietly

“And, why is that Director-General?” asked the Executer

“We already know they consider us a threat, at the 1st sign of a Transnapastani vessel, they’ll jump the gun and open fire, and force us into a separate war. Also, we run the risk of “misfire” from the approaching Leafanistan fleet, and the SRAF defenders. No need to put our warriors in danger.”

The Executer looked at him suspiciously, she knew he was hiding something, and that this was not the time or place to call his bluff. “Indeed, Director-General. Although, in the end, the decision will be mine and mine alone

“Of course, Executer.”

“For now, we wait. We can not commit until acceptable conditions are on the table. Though, I will call for an international plea, for any and all sides in this war to refrain from the use not purchase or preparation, of weapons of mass destruction. Hopefully, we can prevail upon their more intelligent side to see the disadvantage to bio/chemical warfare, and cooler heads will prevail.”

Also, something that just occurred to me...Saharistan, can you provide a link to the thread where the hostilities leading to this took place?

To: The Ambassador of The Empire of Soviet Leaders
From: Kenix Kil, Secretary of State, The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia
Re: Your Aid Package

The Diplomatic Republic of Halberdgardia wishes to inquire as to why, exactly, The Empire of Soviet Leaders is offering The People's Republic of Saharistan this aid package, as well as what ties The Empire of Soviet Leaders has or has had with Saharistan, as there appear to be, or have been, none.

Respectfully,
Kenix Kil
Secretary of State
The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia

Message from the office of the Presidency of the People's Republic of Saharistan

To: Halberdgardia

Before I discuss the issue of the WMDs, I would like to enlighten you on Saharistan's political system.

Saharistan IS a democracy in our own unique way.

As you can already see, Saharistan is an Islamic nation and Islam, along with revoltuionary socialism are the guiding principles of Saharistan's constitution.

Our democracy is this:

Islam is the religion of ALL Saharistani people, so the nation and government is based on Islamic law and the teachings of the Holy Quran. The Quran prohibits 'democracy', as in the Western secular model and Saharistan's democracy is based upon the sovereignty of Islam and those who embrace the Quran.

Western 'democracy' gives freedoms to evil people like prostitutes, drug users, drinkers of alcohol and homosexuals, all things that are ILLEGAL in our nation and punishible by death.

The offical title of our nation is thus, the people of the Islamic faith claim this nation as theirs.

The socialist element of our system is for economic purposes only and socialism does inlcude rights of unIslamic social groupings. The Quran itself calls for support of the poor and oppressed, key socialist demands.

Our nation is anti-reactionary and anti-imperialist and detest those westernised capitalist states that abuse their power on the oppressed.

In dealing with non-Islamic nations, Saharistan will ALWAYS support communist/marxist/socialist opposition groups and if rebellion breaks out in those nations we will support the revolutionaries.

Our only exception here is in the Green Sun civil war, as Green Sun is led by a reactionary anti people military regime, Saharistan offers its moral support to the Nazi Party of Green Sun, as they are a genuine revolutionary movement and represent the will of their own people.

This deal Saharistan made with Penpusher was some time ago and we agreed to no nuclear weapons until we were 100 million in population and in return Penpusher gave us attack helicopters, tanks and jet fighters to meet our defence needs. If you see the first message with the state of our armed forces, all the American weapons are from Penpusher.

I have no desire to threaten you and would not do so unless you did so FIRST.

Furthermore, Saharistan FULLY understands your defence upgrades in your nation in relation to this war and can only say that if you were at war with another nation, we would do the same.

To: Soviet leaders

Saharistan accepts your offer and wishes to express it's desire to build a strong and secure relationship the the Soviet.

Please send your oil and troops to Baghdad airport and/or Al Zarqawi Air Force base, which is 30 miles from our capital Baghdad.

From the President of the People's Republic of Saharistan

Musab al Zarqawi

this war came about from the Jerobian thread on civil war/revolution, called:

Red sun rises over Jerobia

To: Saharistan
From : P3X1299 Foreign Office

In the interests of promoting peace and stability, we have in one of our military stockpiles, some tanks that while being too obsolete for our use might serve to aid you in your cause of freedom. We are willing to transfer some of these tanks, should you accept them. We have in our stockpile among other things, some 1500 M-51 Isherman tanks. Should you be interested in this design, we are willing to load them on board some ships and deliver them to your shores.

Sincerely,
Jack O'Malley
P3X1299 Secretary of State

from the office of fuhrer ein Amaro :mp5:

here is my army and technology:

360000 army
110000 air force
150000 navy
80000 marines
700000 reserves
1.2m national guard

army:
56000 heavy tanks
80000 med AI tanks
96000 light AI scout tanks
18000 heavy artillery
80000 AAPC
6200 attack helicopters
12000 AI scout support helicopters
80000 transport helicopters
30000 sky crane helicopters
98000 6x6 APV
80000 4x4 APV
48000 4x4 laser APV
95000 supply trucks
86000 AI long range artillery
78000 AI AA gun
99000 mortar guns
95000 mobile missile launchers
95000 AI rocket launchers

air force:
120000 stealth fighters
80000 stealth bombers
45000 long range bombers
28000 supersonic bombers
1200 refueling tankers
38000 anti tank/personnel planes
18000 supersonic transport planes
8000 super transports
10000 cargo transports
90000 AI stealth fighter/bombers
90000 AI stealth bombers
45000 AI stealth spy planes
36000 AI stealth jammers
8 SR-71 blackbirds

navy:
850 giant super carriers 380000 tons
3000 super carriers
1800 cruisers
1000 destroyers
850 super battleships 250000 tons
1600 nuclear ICBM attack subs 12 warheads x 24 ICBM's ea.
900 attack subs
300 super tankers
600 tankers

marines:
80000 VTOL attack planes
60000 attack helicopters
3000 attack amphibious transports
80000 recon attack APV

super weapons:
12 satellite based ICBM's 30 nuclear 60 conventional missiles ea.
8 satellite based anti satellite platforms 20 missiles ea.
12 spy satellites
2 space stations anti ICBM/aerial domestic defence 220 hyper sonic rockets 12 lasers
8 shuttles for space missile reloading
1800 ICBM nuclear missiles
2800 nuclear cruise missiles
80000 ICBM conventional warhead missiles
2200 nuclear bombs

i need oil for my war machine and i will offer a one time only deal and since my oil tankers travel frequently in your region under heavy military escort i have a vested interest.
i would be happy to act as a moderator :fluffle:
i propose to attack both nations involved in this conflict and will declare war unless i recieve 15 million barrels of oil a day from both your nations i will attack and invade both countries and seize all oil fields and i will not use nuclear or biological weapons unless i am provoked which i have plenty of both since i do not care for or about the UN and do not participate in their policy making.
so there you have it now you both can have one common enemy in me or we can all do business with each other and avoid war.
i will have my ally draw up an armistice and treaty that will be submitted at the end of the week to both of your nations for review.
i expect an answer within 3 days after the agreement has been delivered by an envoy of mine.
if you notice i have lots of funding, mandatory military service from all my citizens and i am a waring nation in ever sense of the word and i will attack and conquer your nations if you do not comply. :sniper:
but you do have a choice since i am fair and have not got completely senile and power hungry yet.

To: President Musab al Zaraqwi, The People's Republic of Saharistan
From: Kenix Kil, Secretary of State, The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia
Re: Rebuttal

Although I appreciate your attempt to "enlighten" me as to the benefits of your government, I still fail to see the traditional hallmarks of democracy in your nation. Democracy is generally defined in virtually any dictionary as one of the following:

Government by the people, exercised either directly or through elected representatives.

A political or social unit that has such a government.

The common people, considered as the primary source of political power.

Majority rule.

The principles of social equality and respect for the individual within a community.

I find your nation lacking in these categories, despite the arguments you make for it. Perhaps I am having such difficulty wrapping my mind around this concept because your nation has been classified as a "Psychotic Dictatorship" by the U.N. Additionally, in my experience, your nation contains two elements that have been proven by history to be generally incompatible with democracy: a religious-based, non-secular government and law system, and a socialist economy. If you can find any examples of a successful RL non-secular Islamic democracy, or a successful democracy with a socialist economy, then by all means, feel free to disprove my above statements.

But I believe the strongest proof against your nation as a democracy comes from the information in my dossier, some excerpts of which are as follows:

UN Category: Psychotic Dictatorship
Civil Rights: Unheard Of
Economy: Weak
Political Freedoms: Outlawed

"The People's Republic of Saharistan is a small, devout nation, renowned for its compulsory military service. Its hard-nosed, cynical population of 7 million are ruled without fear or favor by a psychotic dictator, who outlaws just about everything and refers to the populace as "my little playthings."...It is difficult to tell where the omnipresent, corrupt, moralistic, socially-minded government stops and the rest of society begins...Elections have been outlawed...Crime -- especially youth-related -- is totally unknown, thanks to the all-pervasive police force..."

Therefore, you will have to excuse me if I continue to hold that your nation is far from a democracy.

Respectfully,
Kenix Kil
Secretary of State
The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia

Message from the office of the Presidency of the People's Republic of Saharistan

To: P3X1299

Saharistan wishes to thank your nation for this gesture of anti-imperialist solidarity, a solidarity that I hope will strengthen the bond of friendship and brotherhood between our two great nations.

Please use our port of Jamahariya to deliver the following you pledged in aid of our war effort: 1500 M-51 Isherman tanks.

From the President of the People's Republic of Saharistan

Musab al Zarqawi

To: The office of the Presidency of the People's Republic of Saharistan
From: P3X1299 Department of Defense

Even as we speak, the tanks are being loaded into transports for delivery to your harbor. They should arrive within the month at the abolute maximum. We hope these tanks serve you well in your war against the imperialists. While we do not share many of the values that shape your society, we wish to support those values and believe that people have a right to live in peace.

Sincerely,
Admiral Nelson McCloud

Saharistan will keep this in mind in the future and will aid P3X1299 in any future conflict it has.

100,000 professional soldiers
1 navy fleet has
2 Kuzbetsov class Aircraft carriers with 25 Mig-29's\
10 Kirov class Crusiers
4 Sovremenny
10 Gepard class
10 support craft
2,000 barrles of oil per week for the tanks
they are leaving for the nation of Saharistan and will tell you when they will tell you this when they are about to enter you waters

This is the Soviet leaders fleet were should we dock at we are about to enter your water.

Hey furhur ein amaro, try to keep it realistic. Sheez.

Soviet Leaders:

Dock in the main port of Jamahariya in the south of our nation.

Blessed Leaders:

Fuher ein amaro has only 19 million people in his nation yet his armed forces and military are beyond the strength of many other larger nation.

Also for such a new nation, I fail to see how he has so many (ten of 1000s of nuclear weapons).

Also Most larger nations cannot even make 15 million barrels of oil a day, yet this is what he asks of us.

We will not meet your demand, fuher ein amaro as you CANNOT play in this RP war, your using n00b taticts like a made up military, you cant just make up the figures as you please, otherwise my nation would have been a global superpower from day one! :rolleyes:

TO ALL PARTICIPANTS IN THIS RP WAR, FUHER EIN AMARO WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS WAR OR THREAD DUE TO UNREALISTIC FIGURES ON BEHALF OF HIS NATIONS ALLEGED STRENGTH AND HIS UNREALISTIC DEMANDS.

This right I hold as the starter of this RP war!

OOC: Certainly i agree those numbers are insane. Thats the biggest godmod ive ever seen. Uh...out of curiousity shouldnt leafistan respond to this so he knows its actually happening? Also what escalated this war? I would like to see the thread so i can make an IC decision.

Oh btw if i get involved i use alot of MBT's per division and you will see later that the figures are high but all were purchased accordingly. Sadly when my economy was better... =(

Leafanistan decleared war on Saharistan and started to assemble a naval invasion fleet of around 400,000 men.

That was last night and Leafanistan has yet to come online again.

Saharistan has only put forward defensive measures, like securing our beaches and a call up of the population to arms, as well as obtaining Soviet Lands assistance and free tanks from P3X1299.

We intend to let Leafanistans ships into our waters, upon which we and Soviet Lands will attack their naval assualt and shoot down all Leafanistani troops on our beaches.

We wish to preserve our troops so we will do defensive operations and not risk defeat in invading Leafanistan.

Leafanistan went to war with us when Saharistan gave financial aid and small arms to the Rebel pro-democracy movement in Jerobia who are fighting the dictatorial takeover of Jerobia.

Look for the Thread: 'Red sun rises in Jerobia'.

It's in the II section of the forums.

Hailandkill, regardless of what side you take, you are fighting in Tidan in their civil war, can you fight two wars at the same time?

I will tell you this war will be big, big on troops and deaths. Plus my ally Soviet Lands could use WMD on our behalf (Saharistan does not have WMD) if any other nation uses WMD on us.

OOC: Its nice to see that gomdodding isn’t going to be creeping in here...though. I've noticed that this is to page three, and we've not heard a squeak out of Leafanistan. Have you TGed him/her? Are they even aware of this situation, or have they just not gotten online recently?

I recommend we not let this get to far until Leafanistan has had a chance to post...

To: Saharistan
From: Technocratic Republic of Space Union

Because of our deal, you promised not to aquire WMDs until the population of 100 million. I will keep my part of the deal until you keep your part of the deal. My forces having been shipping supplies to your nation and I would like to ask that you withdraw from the conflict and look for a peaceful resolution with Leafanistan. If he doesn't make a good argument against you, Space Union will come to Saharistan's aid because of our pact. But you must halt all shipments of WMD or buying any.

President Harsimran Mann

OOC: Usually I would pick sides right about now, need a good RP from my time away, but what escaladed this, and the conflict before this? And Leaf has not yet signned on, so I will wait till then.

Official Neoman Response

We have decided to take Saharistan side in this conflict thought we cannot support them with any military actions we would like to give Saharistan a present that will make there Military a boost

10,000 Mig 30s (Old but are really good plains)
5000 M1A1
3000 M14 Carbines
30,000 Rounds of Ammunition
also we wish to give Saharistan
500 Royal Vanguard, these are our best of the best they will be under you command from here on out, just give them the order and they will do it, regardless of the mission trained from birth they are the elite of Neomas VanGuard

We also wish to tell Saharistan that we may get involved but then again we may not.

Official bulletin-Saharistani People's News Agency (SPNA)

Due to the support Saharistan gave to the People's Front of Jerobia (PFJ) in their just cause of democracy against the dictatorship ruling Jerobia, Leafanistan has decided, without trying to reslove this issue diplomatically, to attack us.

A STATE OF WAR NOW EXISTS BETWEEN LEAFANISTAN AND THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF SAHARISTAN.


End of bulliten


"Welcome to Constitutionals Channel 5. I'm your host, Deena Mitchells. As the President made his weekly announcement of alliences today, his role in the Leafistan-Saharistan Conflict is on everyone's mind. After considering carefully, the President chose to formally support Leafistan, despite both country's abysmall lack of Political Freedoms, due to Leafistan's zombie outbreak and the support Constitutionals declared there. The President wishes to make it clear that Leafistan fesauters prominently among Constitutuional's many allies. The President is ending one company of elites.

The elites each have:

One Rueger five commando assault rife with grenade launcher and scope.

One Beretta x5 "advanced" pistol.

One combat knife.

Assorted grenades and demolition equipment.

Assorted special weapons.

As citizens well know, ninja commandos are also joinging combat opertations, although how many ninjas will praticipate is currently unknown.

Ninjas are armed with:

One silenced uzi.

One Katana.

Assorted demolitions equipment.

Assorted martial disciplines weapons.

One hold-out silenced Walter PPK special edition.

All these troops will be lead by General Leopald, a vetern from the Najibi campeigns.

The President also stresses that units will act as seperate combat units, not directly under the command of Leafistanian officers. Live from Jefferson City, I'm Deena Mitchels."

The Constitutional Monarchy of Fuhrer ein amaro stop godmodding, there is now way you have 800 somthing battleships, that is more than the Us,UK germany,Japan, italy and Russia all combined during WW2, and with your size of 16 million, there is no way you could beat much of anything.

oh i TGed Leafanistan last night and no reply yet.

Leafanistan decleared war on Saharistan and started to assemble a naval invasion fleet of around 400,000 men.

That was last night and Leafanistan has yet to come online again.

Saharistan has only put forward defensive measures, like securing our beaches and a call up of the population to arms, as well as obtaining Soviet Lands assistance and free tanks from P3X1299.

We intend to let Leafanistans ships into our waters, upon which we and Soviet Lands will attack their naval assualt and shoot down all Leafanistani troops on our beaches.

We wish to preserve our troops so we will do defensive operations and not risk defeat in invading Leafanistan.

Leafanistan went to war with us when Saharistan gave financial aid and small arms to the Rebel pro-democracy movement in Jerobia who are fighting the dictatorial takeover of Jerobia.

Look for the Thread: 'Red sun rises in Jerobia'.

It's in the II section of the forums.

Hailandkill, regardless of what side you take, you are fighting in Tidan in their civil war, can you fight two wars at the same time?

I will tell you this war will be big, big on troops and deaths. Plus my ally Soviet Lands could use WMD on our behalf (Saharistan does not have WMD) if any other nation uses WMD on us.


OOC:
I may be helping tindan but it is with a small force of my army; (2 out of 10 Dvisions.) Hmm, sounds like you were agressed upon for no reason. This is MT i presume? Ill have an IC response soon, but i must go to work.

To: Space Union:

Leafanistans declared war on us, we did not have ANY choice in this decision and therefore Saharistan will defend it's freedom with all the might of it's armed forces.

Of course if you have a proposal that could avert war, then please let us know as soon as you can.

However Saharistan WILL NOT accept any demands that curtial our ability to hold an independent foreign policy or interfere in our internal affairs.

Saharistan does not, nor will it intend to, try and obtain WMD until our population is of 100 million. However our allies a free to use them in our own opinion, as Saharistan ALWAYS respects a nation's right to exercise their sovereign rights in relation to their defence needs.

Please ship your military aid to our port of Jamahariya or the international airport of our capital, Baghdad.

To: Neoma

Thank you for your help.

Please deliver your military aid to the port of Jamahariya or our international airport in our capital, Baghdad.

Saharistan will keep in mind your nation's expression of solidarity with Saharistan and will help you in future, in any wars/conflict you may have.

Message from the office of the Presidency of the People's Republic of Saharistan

To: Democratic City-States of Constitutionals

The People's Republic of Saharistan condemms the imperialistic decision by the Constitutionals and their illegal aid for an nation which has launched an unprovoked invasion of our nation.

Therefore Saharistan is left with no other choice than that:

A STATE OF WAR NOW EXISTS BETWEEN THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF SAHARISTAN AND THE DEMOCRATIC CITY-STATES OF CONSTITUTIONALS.

ALL ships flying the Constitutional flag, military aircraft and all civilian airliners will be SHOT down where ever our fighter jets, SAM missile/AA guns, naval vessals encounter Contitutional ships, aircraft and civilian transports.

From the President of the People's Republic of Saharistan

Musab al Zarqawi

I want to know why Leafanistan has declared war. If he doesn't give me a formal reply that is a good reason, Space Union will mobilize its army and crush any support for Leafanistan.

President Harsimran Mann
Technocratic Republic of Space Union

OOC:

Saharistan:

I think it is too harsh to destroy civilian airplanes and ships. The population shouldn't suffer for the governments behavior.

Saharistan thanks the Space Union for it's expression of solidarity with our nation in the face of imperialist agression and it's desire to destroy those who help Leafanistan.

The Constitutionals are the ONLY nation that has yet allied itself of Leafanistan and provide it with their own forces to help the forces of Leafanistan.

Saharistan would like to open a dialogue with the aim of securing a formal alliance of friendship, military support and trade between Saharistan and the Space Union.

Well, their civilian aircraft should not be flying near our nation anyway, toursits don't normally travel to war zones.

Such aircraft could be spyplanes hiding under the cover of a 'civilian' aircraft.

I hope you can understand this point of view.

Of course our nation won't send our jet fighter off to faraway areas to hunt for planes, but those near our nation are to be destroyed, 'civilian' or not.

REMEMBER, LEAFANISTAN WILL KILL OUR OWN CIVILIANS AND THEY CAN ONLY EXPECT THAT WE WILL TREAT THEM AS THEY TREAT US, IT'S ONLY FAIR.

This is a war, people die, it's a sad fact, but a true one.

Besides, Leafanistan started this war, so any people they lose, be it civilians or military, are the fault of their own regime.

I can only hope the people of Leafanistan will punish their corrupt, bloodthirsty regime and remove it and put in it's place a government that won't send their people to their deaths in senseless wars.

OOC i guess you dont care about the goods i just gifted to you...hmmm :rolleyes: j/k

To: President Musab al Zaraqwi of The People's Republic of Saharistan
From: Kenix Kil, Secretary of State, The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia
Re: Leafanistan

Perhaps Leafanistan is not quite the "corrupt, bloodthirsty regime" you make it out to be. We see two redeeming qualities in Leafanistan:

Firstly, although Leafanistan is hardly a paragon of democracy, its people do have some political freedoms. This is in stark contrast to your own nation, where elections are outlawed. Frankly, we are surprised you do not have rebellious groups pushing for democratic reform in your own country.

Secondly, Leafanistan is only protecting its interests by making preparations for invasion. You were supplying funds and small arms to a group that apparently threatens the stability of an allied country, and Leafanistan is taking the necessary precautions. Therefore, your description of Leafanistan as "bloodthirsty" strikes us as propagandistic.

All Halberdgardian defense forces remain on DEFCON 3 alert pending further developments in this conflict.

Respectfully,
Kenix Kil
Secretary of State
The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia

No need to get angry anymore. Saharistan has given up buying, producing, or selling WMDs until he becomes 100 million pop.

President Harsimran Mann
Technocratic Republic of Space Union

To: President Harsimran Mann of The Technocratic Republic of Space Union
From: Kenix Kil, Secretary of State, The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia
Re: Our Previous Statement

As a matter of clarification, we would like to point out that our previous response was not directed in anger towards The People's Republic of Saharistan. Rather, it was an attempt to highlight to any other third-party nations that may be observing this conflict the inherent logical discrepancies of the fictions Musab al Zaraqwi is crafting, so that they may obtain a more objective view of this conflict.

Respectfully,
Kenix Kil
Secretary of State
The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia

letter to Saharistan:

100,000 0f our men are ready to be brought into your nation. they are being brought over now. (ooc:They will arrive ther tomorrow RL). I ask that in return for this favor, you give your people more freedom.

OOC: Am I god moding? If I am plz tell me the 2,000 barrles of oil is for helping your nation We are "FT" but we are using Mordern tech becaues we don't use oil we use nuclear power

Message from the office of the Presidency of the People's Republic of Saharistan

To: Concador

The People's Republic of Saharistan would like to thank the nation of Concador in relation to their 100,000 troop deployment in our nation, in aid of our war effort against the imperialistic Leafanstanis.

This will hopefully be the start of a close friendship between out two great nations. A friendship that could lead to an alliance between Saharistan and Concador.

Unfortunatley, I cannot make any moves in the area of political freedom for my people.

The people of Saharistan are happy with our government and our political system and have showed that at huge rallies in favour of the system.

Besides, our system gives people REAL freedoms like freedom from:

*Hunger.
*Poverty.
*Illiteracy.
*Homelessness.
*Curable Dieseases.

These are more important than the 'freedom' to put a cross/tick on some sheet of paper.

Our sense of freedom is social, which is far more genuine than political 'democracy' on the so-called western model.

From the President of the People's Republic of Saharistan

Musab al Zarqawi

Does anyone want to hire some Mercenaries for this little engagement?

They specialize in being snipers and fighting guerilla style holding actions. Contract prices are negotiable.

IE, they would be great to place on your beaches to help take out incoming troops, should they make it to shore.

OOC:
I love how this is preogressing w/o Leafistan actually responding. Shouldnt we wait?

OOC: are you saying if I am goodmooding plz tell me ok I am kinda use to FT but there is not that many wars going on so I am a multi tech nation.

Why, nothing is really happening other than this guy setting up some basic defenses.

News:

The McKagan Federation is now offering a platoon of tanks and a platoon of hummer mounted AntiAircraft attachments.

No soviet lands, you can use FT weapons that are EARTH BASED, no spaceships, laser stallites or any star wars/trek stuff.

FT tanks and APC are ok, along with all the small arms and missiles.

if your nation can AFFORD your military aid to use then you are not godmoding, if your nation has oil then your promised supplies are not a problem.

In RL Iraq makes 2 million barrels of oil a day.

SL shouldnt you just create an MT nation so theres no conflict in that matter? Also its hard to say if its a godmod, maybe ask an admin, or keep records of all the MT youve bought.

OOC: It's an interesting question for me, as well.

I'm a SciFi fan, so that influences all of my decisions whether I like it or not. I'm trying to stay modern tech, while still saying a starship is in production, but nowhere near being complete. I also say that we have several highly advanced space shuttles, but that's about it.

To: President Musab al Zaraqwi of The People's Republic of Saharistan
From: Kenix Kil, Secretary of State, The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia
Re: Rebuttal

You make it sound as though hunger, poverty, illiteracy, homelessness, and curable diseases are scourges that a democratic nation cannot eliminate. This is an absurd notion at best. And "the freedom to put a cross/tick on some sheet of paper," as you so eloquently put it, is in fact a vital one, especially when it determines how the country is run. Tell me, were these "massive rallies" of yours made out of true admiration, or out of fear? One would think the latter, thanks to your nation's pervasive police force, omnipresent military, and complete lack of free political expression. One would be more inclined to believe in your sense of "freedom" when you allow opposition parties a fair part in your government, and freedom of political expression for your citizens.

Respectfully,
Kenix Kil
Secretary of State
The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia

Message from the office of the Presidency of the People's Republic of Saharistan

To: Halberdgardia

Saharistan's grows very tired of your nations constant commentry of our political system.

We do not care for your one, why is it your concern to care fro ours?

Cease these attacks on our system for they could cause instability in Saharistan.

From the President of the People's Republic of Saharistan

Musab al Zarqawi

,

Message from the office of the Presidency of the People's Republic of Saharistan

To: Halberdgardia

Before I discuss the issue of the WMDs, I would like to enlighten you on Saharistan's political system.

Saharistan IS a democracy in our own unique way.

As you can already see, Saharistan is an Islamic nation and Islam, along with revoltuionary socialism are the guiding principles of Saharistan's constitution.

Our democracy is this:

Islam is the religion of ALL Saharistani people, so the nation and government is based on Islamic law and the teachings of the Holy Quran. The Quran prohibits 'democracy', as in the Western secular model and Saharistan's democracy is based upon the sovereignty of Islam and those who embrace the Quran.

Western 'democracy' gives freedoms to evil people like prostitutes, drug users, drinkers of alcohol and homosexuals, all things that are ILLEGAL in our nation and punishible by death.

The offical title of our nation is thus, the people of the Islamic faith claim this nation as theirs.

The socialist element of our system is for economic purposes only and socialism does inlcude rights of unIslamic social groupings. The Quran itself calls for support of the poor and oppressed, key socialist demands.

Our nation is anti-reactionary and anti-imperialist and detest those westernised capitalist states that abuse their power on the oppressed.

In dealing with non-Islamic nations, Saharistan will ALWAYS support communist/marxist/socialist opposition groups and if rebellion breaks out in those nations we will support the revolutionaries.

Our only exception here is in the Green Sun civil war, as Green Sun is led by a reactionary anti people military regime, Saharistan offers its moral support to the Nazi Party of Green Sun, as they are a genuine revolutionary movement and represent the will of their own people.

This deal Saharistan made with Penpusher was some time ago and we agreed to no nuclear weapons until we were 100 million in population and in return Penpusher gave us attack helicopters, tanks and jet fighters to meet our defence needs. If you see the first message with the state of our armed forces, all the American weapons are from Penpusher.

I have no desire to threaten you and would not do so unless you did so FIRST.

Furthermore, Saharistan FULLY understands your defence upgrades in your nation in relation to this war and can only say that if you were at war with another nation, we would do the same.

To: Soviet leaders

Saharistan accepts your offer and wishes to express it's desire to build a strong and secure relationship the the Soviet.

Please send your oil and troops to Baghdad airport and/or Al Zarqawi Air Force base, which is 30 miles from our capital Baghdad.

From the President of the People's Republic of Saharistan

Musab al Zarqawi

*the letter above leaked to Mr Sunstreak.*

*LIVE tv news, a group of 12 men stand behind Obie sunstreak, they look like they want to yank him back off stage, but are seriously afrade. Its easy to see why, a FURIOUS president stands at the podium*

Musab al Zarqawi, so you would DARE consider homosexuals beneth you! *the mans fists slam into the podium* you have pushed the wrong button you *bleeping noise, another bleeping noise..rather long ones* You want to play games with the lives of people. I got a news flash for you. This country is founded by a faggot! *again the fists slam into the podium and he takes several deep breaths. One male, who apears to be in a suit to his left and behind him, goes pale at the anger their commander in cheif has*

So here is the deal, as of right now the country of Saharistan is being put under total blocade by my country. ANY SHIP atemping to pass, will be warned and turned away. Food, medical supplys, NOTHING will go thru *his fists balled up* you will learn the meaning of RESPECT MR zaqawi, if I have to kill every man, woman and child in your *bleeping again* country.

(woops someone hit a nerve)

*the broadcast shuts down. Already reports of 2 carriers, 3 destroyers, 3 small corvettes, 5 support ships,1 hunter/killer sub and 3 oddly shaped ships(ask for details if you have satalite or plane support). Convaying the bulk of the republics fleet, are heading into place at the point where international waters and Saharistan waters join. Under flank speed*

Offical bulletin-Saharistani People's News Agency (SPNA)

This is a special broadcast by the President on the People's Republic of Saharistan

Dear compatriots.

Only hours ago, the government had received news of an impending naval blockade on our nation by the evil regime of Overbear.

They are send over a fleet of warships to our shores in a pathetic attempt in trying to destroy our supply routes and stifle our war effort.

Well, I can say this in full confidence in that Overbear have picked the WRONG nation to start a war with. As of the now very long delay in the Leafanistani attack, we shall put our nations air defences and our coastal defence forces on full alert to take action to smash the bloackade.

Due to the fact that Saharistani forces will now take action against the naval fleet of Overbear, we have to issue the following:

THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF SAHARISTAN HAS DECLEARED WAR ON THE NATION OF OVERBEAR.

SAHARISTAN SHALL ALERT ALL IT'S ALLIES TO THE NEW ENEMY NATION, THUS BRINGING THE FULL WEIGHT OF OUR GREAT ALLIANCE OF NATIONS TO DEFEAT OVERBEAR AND WIPE IT OF THE FACE OF THE PLANET.

Our main ally, the Soviet Lands shall be informed with the hope that they use their HUGE nuclear arsenal against Overbear.

Furtheremore, as Leader of the Saharistani Islamic Revolution, I declare a Holy Islamic Jihad against the infidel (unbelievers) of Overbear.

I promise you that Overbear shall be brought over to Islam and upon liberating the people of Overbear from their decadant and immoral 'leader',
they shall learn the way of Islam.

May our brave fighters show their courage and their love of their nation and of Islam!

We shall never surrender!

Victory or death!

Musab al Zarqawi

End of bulletin

OOC: MY nation is Soviet leaders but I kinda like that name.
IC
We are sending some more high tech things to help

we are sending
4 T-Soviet tanks (A little like a T-34 but like 2 ft bigger and a more explosive rounds.)

6 Anti-Ship mobile turret (Has a 7 missile lunchers that fire 3 missiles each on the back end and supports that go 9" into the ground.)

we are sending a proffesional snipers
3 snipers with a .75 cal that has spikes that go into the ground and is ment to kill soldiers.

the emperor gave this speech
"We will help the nation of Saharistan has the empires full support and we will not stop becaues of overbear small fleet if they try to stop us we will attack them with not Nuclear weapons but with a blockade of there lands and the none stop attack with missiles on there land untell there is no building left standing we shall crush are foes and we will prove to be the victor we will stand on what was once there nation if they think of attacking our fleet we will attack them with all that we have and we have the foundation and psycohistory to help us in the fight and we will use the best tech to stop this blockade as much as possible FOR THE PEOPLE OF SOVIET LEADERS."
the croud said "FOR THE EMPEROR AND PEOPLE OF SOVIET LEADERS."

Al Zarqawi Airforce Base 30km from the capital, Baghdad.

MILITARY INTELLEGENCE OFFICER - "Our intelligence agents have picked up reports of the naval fleet that Overbear has sent to us."

MIO - "They seem to be about 65 km from the border between Saharistani waters and international waters, in the far western area, about 170km from our air base in Jamahariya."

Air Marshall Zia/Commander of the Saharistani Air Force - "Well based upon these facts, that rules out any naval engagements on our side, the navy will have to wait until the enemy fleet is nearer or they will make the old mistake of over stretching their forces."

MIO - ...............

AM Zia - "This calls for the Saharistani Air Force to put itself to the test and show the world what their made of."

AM Zia - "Contact Air Force Group West and the air base in Jamahariya, tell them to assemble a fleet of jet fighters for a full arieal assualt on the navy fleet of Overbear. I will be taking personal command of this assault and therefore would like you to inform the two air bases to establish a com-link between the two bases and here, I want level 5 clearence for this com-link, only my operatives, myself and the pilots will know whats being said during our assault."

MIO - "Very well Sir, Ill do it now."

AM Zia - "And before you go, all planes are to be equipped with anti-shipping missiles/rockets/underside torpedoes. It's important that we cause as much damage as well can on their fleet, bearing in mind that this is the bulk of their navy."

AM Zia - "As for the planes, 30 F-14 Tomcats, 60 MIG 29s, 30 MIG 21s, 25 MIG 19s. That makes it a total of 145 fighter jets."

MIO - "Right away, consider it all done, we should be in the air in about 50 minutes, another hour to get to the target."

Over the straits of Jamahariya, approaching the Overbear naval fleet.

Pilot/1 - "We have visual contact with the enemy fleet, repeat, we have visual contact with the enemy fleet, over."

AM Zia - "Fall into attack formation, fighter jets to spread out to cover the widest possible area, enusre that every boat is covered by your attack"

3 F-14s went for one of the small corvettes. The first F-14 fired an Excocet anti shipping missile into the lower side of the corvette, causing a huge fireball to envelope the left side of the ship. That F-14 went around to see what damage his missile did to the ship. The ship had a huge hole in it's side and it was taking on water. The 3 F-14s then went over to back up 4 MIG 19s who were all taking their turns in firing their anti tank rockets on the deck of one of the aircraft carriers.

As the 3 F-14s went over to join the MIG 19s, one of the pilots saw around 70 or so Overbear sailors swimming/floating in the waters around the sinking corvette. He informed the MIG 19s, 2 of which broke of their rocketing of the air carrier and flew over in the direction of the 70 or so sailors in the sea.

As they approached the sailors, the MIG 19s decended and opened heavy machine gun (MG) fire on the sailors, flying up high as they flew over the sailors and then turning around for another go. This they did four more times, until ALL 70 or so sailors were dead, leaving the part of the sea they where floating in to turn red.

Meanwhile the 3 F-14s had joined up with the remaining 2 MIG 19s to drop bombloads and fire air-to-surface missiles and rockets at the flight deck of the carrier they were attacking. ALL aircraft on the carrier never got a chance to go airborne and ALL the enemy fighter jets and helicopters on the carriers deck were now gone, the enitre deck along with the bridge and crews quarters were now ablaze from all the bombardment.

Whilst not sinking, the carrier was out of the fight, all it's aircraft were gone, it's bridge destroyed and most of it's crew destroyed.

Meanwhile the rest of the enemy fleet had now begun to put up their defences, some of their fighters flew off the their last carrier and their men now starting to man the anti-aircraft missiles.

There was still a long way to go, but the Saharistani Air Force could be proud of the fact that they attacked with the element of surprise and that their losses were minimal whilst the enemy's substantial.

Overbear's losses:

1 Aircraft carrier, with all it's planes and helicopters.

1 Corvette.

Our estimates - 340 enemy military personnel DEAD.

Saharistan's losses:

3 MIG 19s.

1 MIG 29s

5 military personnel DEAD.

OOC:
Saharistan thats godmodding by claiming overbears losses. You can say you launched alotta missiles at him but not say you sunk his ships. If, however, he refuses to take losses for a well RPed attack then he is a godmodder and then you can just use the I.G.N.O.R.E. cannon.

PS: Still waiting for leafanistan to respond before i get involved

Over the straits of Jamahariya, approaching the Overbear naval fleet.

Pilot/1 - "We have visual contact with the enemy fleet, repeat, we have visual contact with the enemy fleet, over."

AM Zia - "Fall into attack formation, fighter jets to spread out to cover the widest possible area, enusre that every boat is covered by your attack"

3 F-14s went for one of the small corvettes. The first F-14 fired an Excocet anti shipping missile into the lower side of the corvette, causing a huge fireball to envelope the left side of the ship. That F-14 went around to see what damage his missile did to the ship. The ship had a huge hole in it's side and it was taking on water. The 3 F-14s then went over to back up 4 MIG 19s who were all taking their turns in firing their anti tank rockets on the deck of one of the aircraft carriers.

As the 3 F-14s went over to join the MIG 19s, one of the pilots saw around 70 or so Overbear sailors swimming/floating in the waters around the sinking corvette. He informed the MIG 19s, 2 of which broke of their rocketing of the air carrier and flew over in the direction of the 70 or so sailors in the sea.

As they approached the sailors, the MIG 19s decended and opened heavy machine gun (MG) fire on the sailors, flying up high as they flew over the sailors and then turning around for another go. This they did four more times, until ALL 70 or so sailors were dead, leaving the part of the sea they where floating in to turn red.

Meanwhile the 3 F-14s had joined up with the remaining 2 MIG 19s to drop bombloads and fire air-to-surface missiles and rockets at the flight deck of the carrier they were attacking. ALL aircraft on the carrier never got a chance to go airborne and ALL the enemy fighter jets and helicopters on the carriers deck were now gone, the enitre deck along with the bridge and crews quarters were now ablaze from all the bombardment.

Whilst not sinking, the carrier was out of the fight, all it's aircraft were gone, it's bridge destroyed and most of it's crew destroyed.

Meanwhile the rest of the enemy fleet had now begun to put up their defences, some of their fighters flew off the their last carrier and their men now starting to man the anti-aircraft missiles.

There was still a long way to go, but the Saharistani Air Force could be proud of the fact that they attacked with the element of surprise and that their losses were minimal whilst the enemy's substantial.

Overbear's losses:

1 Aircraft carrier, with all it's planes and helicopters.

1 Corvette.

Our estimates - 340 enemy military personnel DEAD.

Saharistan's losses:

3 MIG 19s.

1 MIG 29s

5 military personnel DEAD.

ooc: That was godmodeing man, so alow me to fix things a bit.


radar command: Sir incoming bogies! i have... hell 40+ sir!

Admiral Bjorn: Push out the sunbears, and launch alert 5. Tell captain bendar to bring the fleet into defense mode...and get me the president on the horn.
(note this is what the 3 sunbears are, pilots will not see them on radar but the MAY luck out and catch sight of one thru visual. http://www.kockums.se/surfacevessels/visby.html)

*The battle rages, 12 falanx anti-missile systems come online spraying hundreds of thousands of rounds into the air in an atept to splatter incoming anti-ship missiles. Both carriers are able to get off only a total of 12, British made harrier jump jets, The brave men and women flying them dive into the incoming battle group....none come back.*

*the admiral stands on the bridge of the carrier 'vengeance' looking out at the ocean. 2 corvettes out of action and limping for home. One destroyer abandon, listing badly. He doubts they will be able to save that one. One carrier on fire. Its deck badly damaged, total of 30 planes and 5 copters destroyed including 12 brave ones that never came home. Yet none of that is what makes the large man pale as a ghost. None of it is what frightens him to the core..its what his commander has ordered that brings true fear in his heart. Lifting the comline he looks at it then clicks..*

Bjorn: spark...the command is, launch fifty... n...no, im sure I had it resent four times to be sure...and spark, god help us all.


*Back in the republic a cold faced president watches on a screen, as 50 rockets total, most low skimming cruse "claw" class only 10 being arched high flying "tooth" class, scream off the luanchters on the boats....how many has he just issued a death certificate to..."they called down the thunder gentlemen, its now our job to show them where hell is"*

50 total missles rocket out, each targeted at a major military instaltion. Each warhead will go off 500 feet ABOVE the target, spraying it with...VX-4 nerve gas. Coating surfaces, raining down on the bases... their goal total destruction of military personnel.

**losses
1 blackfur class destroyer
30 planes all of the british harrier class.
2 corvettes limping for home
1 carrier limping for home, out of the fight totaly.

*the president of ovebear comes on tv* ladies and gentlemen of the world. Today has been a day that shall never be forgoten. With no provocation at all, no action taken yet, the military of Saharistan atacked, and killed many of our people. Our fleet lays dammaged, our nation wounded. While it is true we were going to set up blockades of this country, we as of yet had not done so, this atack was done in international waters no less! *the man takeing a breath and closing his eyes* five minutes ago, I ordered the launch of missles carrying nerve agents on all of their reachable military instaltions. I realize the world will look at me in horror, and for that I am sorry...BUT *the fist slamming into the podium* I will seek vengeance for our dead! we will not stop, un tell the leader of Saharistan is in our hands for trial, or his body lays at our feet! Musab al Zarqawi you called down the thunder, now your going to get it. On a civilian note, all Muslims, and people of Sharistan descent have had their visa's revoked. They will be sent home out of our country for the duration of this war!

Thank you and may the spirts watch over you all.

*the man turns, and walks off camera*

*this notice is sent out to all involved parties*
The Monarcy has been informed that Saharistan has been threatened with both invasion and the usage of weapons of mass destruction. The Monarch has declared that this is unacceptable and is taking the following steps.

Any nation using weapons of mass destruction in this conflict will be targeted by our orbital lasers.

In the defence of Saharistan,we are deploying the third and seventh fleets including twenty Nexus class Battleships, thirty Zeus class Aircraft carriers carrying 2400 F/A-18F Super Hornets and 600 SH-60 Seahawks, supported by forty Trinity class Cruisers and eighty Manta class Destroyers.
Eighty thousand Royal Guardsmen and 2,000 M1A2 Abrams Main Battle Tanks will be deploying with the fleet.

(OOC: No, this is not godmodding, I have one and a half billion citizens a Frightening economy, and 30% of my budget goes towards defence. Be happy I'm using current tech. Saharistan, you may control my forces for now.)

OOC: I am not going to join this war, but will watch it. TAG

To: All Concerned Nations
From: Kenix Kil, Secretary of State, The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia
Re: A Request

The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia respectfully requests that ALL parties in the Leafanistan/Saharistan conflict stand down and cease hostilities until The Glorious Republic of Leafanistan, as well as The Democratic City-States of Constitutionals, respond to The People's Republic of Saharistan's declarations of war. The duration of this cease-fire will be 24 RL hours, during which all attempts will be made to contact the nations in question. At the end of the 24 hours, hostilities may be resumed or the cease-fire may be extended to allow the nations in question more time to respond.

Respectfully,
Kenix Kil
Secretary of State
The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia

[OOC: Basically what I'm trying to say is that I think this RP has gotten a little out of hand by progressing without allowing for a response by Leafanistan or Constitutionals. Don't you think we should at least give them a little more time?]

*this notice is sent out to all involved parties*
The Monarcy has been informed that Saharistan has been threatened with both invasion and the usage of weapons of mass destruction. The Monarch has declared that this is unacceptable and is taking the following steps.

Any nation using weapons of mass destruction in this conflict will be targeted by our orbital lasers.

In the defence of Saharistan,we are deploying the third and seventh fleets including twenty Nexus class Battleships, thirty Zeus class Aircraft carriers carrying 2400 F/A-18F Super Hornets and 600 SH-60 Seahawks, supported by forty Trinity class Cruisers and eighty Manta class Destroyers.
Eighty thousand Royal Guardsmen and 2,000 M1A2 Abrams Main Battle Tanks will be deploying with the fleet.

(OOC: No, this is not godmodding, I have one and a half billion citizens a Frightening economy, and 30% of my budget goes towards defence. Be happy I'm using current tech. Saharistan, you may control my forces for now.)

ooc no, orbital lasers are godmodding, and I for one wont acnolage that kind of power. Being someone who RL works with lasers almost every day. I can tell you it is scientificly almost imposible to make one that could fire thru the layers around the earth and do any kind of dammage. It would take on the order of 12 or so gigawats of power, someting no known source can lase at.

To: All Concerned Nations
[OOC: Basically what I'm trying to say is that I think this RP has gotten a little out of hand by progressing without allowing for a response by Leafanistan or Constitutionals. Don't you think we should at least give them a little more time?]

ooc problem is its become a war betwene Saharistan and the republic of overbear now :headbang:

(OOC: So you It's not possible that it could be invented, even with 50 billion dollars in direct research funds? According to the stats, we have a 2 trillion dollar a year defense budget which is primarily focused on space aged weaponry as per the military spending issue. The only reason the defense budget is so low is because there are no taxes. Don't ask me how I make money without taxes, but that's the way things are. Statistics (http://www.thirdgeek.com/nseconomy/nseconomy.php?nation=the+yoopers) So I'm a statwanker? Who cares?)

ooc problem is its become a war betwene Saharistan and the republic of overbear now :headbang:

[OOC: True, but the original conflict was between Saharistan and Leafanistan. Constitutionals was included when they chose to support Leafanistan, and your nation is the only one to respond to Saharistan's declarations of war thus far. Am I the only one who thinks this is just a little bit screwed up?]

(OOC: So you It's not possible that it could be invented, even with 50 billion dollars in direct research funds? According to the stats, we have a 2 trillion dollar a year defense budget which is primarily focused on space aged weaponry as per the military spending issue. The only reason the defense budget is so low is because there are no taxes. Don't ask me how I make money without taxes, but that's the way things are. Statistics (http://www.thirdgeek.com/nseconomy/nseconomy.php?nation=the+yoopers) So I'm a statwanker? Who cares?)

(its got nothing to do with how much money you toss at it. The problem is how a laser works, and the way the earths layers work. THink of it like this. Shine a flashlight at your eye. Its bright, now shine it thru 4 layers of wax paper.)

(OOC: Blah, fine then, have it your way for now, they can be nuclear missles for all I care, it just means it will be less precise and more people would die. As for the flashlight refrence, a TAC light will shine right through those pieces of paper like nothing.)

Baghdad, capital of Saharistan

Usama bin Laden, Minister of Defence - "Mr. President, Overbear have launched 50 missiles with nerve agent, at all our military installations that their missiles are able to reach."

Zarqawi - "Alert all defences, activate ALL our anti missile defence systems, take the missiles out even if they spray our population centres in the process, it's imperative that our military system remains intact."

UbL - " Very well, I do this right away."

Zarqawi - "Oh, and before you go, inform the Revolutionary Militia to round up ALL citizens from Overbear that are in our country, include everyone, women, children, the elderly, no exceptions. Upon rounding them up, have them excecuted en-masse in the main square of Baghdad."

UbL - "Yes Mr. President."

Baghdad, capital of Saharistan

Usama bin Laden, Minister of Defence - "Mr. President, Overbear have launched 50 missiles with nerve agent, at all our military installations that their missiles are able to reach."

Zarqawi - "Alert all defences, activate ALL our anti missile defence systems, take the missiles out even if they spray our population centres in the process, it's imperative that our military system remains intact."

UbL - " Very well, I do this right away."

Zarqawi - "Oh, and before you go, inform the Revolutionary Militia to round up ALL citizens from Overbear that are in our country, include everyone, women, children, the elderly, no exceptions. Upon rounding them up, have them excecuted en-masse in the main square of Baghdad."

UbL - "Yes Mr. President."


ooc: Curious where you want to go with this? ABM systems arn't designed to target low flying/skimming cruse missles. Not enough radar signal to lock in on. I will leave it to you how many missles get thru and how many you stop.

also, note the news confrence happend 5 minutes after the launch, at about 140 nautical miles away per target (rough estimate) that would give you about 60-300 seconds warning after they came onto radar, meaning they would be hitting targets as the news was anounced.

Throughout Saharistan

Air raid sirens echoed throughtout every city, town and military installation in Saharistan.

After coming in reach of our anti-missile defence systems, Saharistan managed to take out 18 of the 50 missiles, with the other 32 missiles hitting their targets.

Some of those missiles which we destroyed have caused the deaths of many civilians.

12,579 civilians DEAD.

4,538 military personnel DEAD.

Central Baghdad, capital of Saharistan - 5 hours after the chemical attack on Saharistan

In revenge for the chemical missile attack on their nation, Saharistan has excecuted the 279 Overbear citizens that the Saharistani forces had rounded up when the President gave that order.

All Overbear citizens now hang in the gallows that have been erected in the squares and plazas across the capital. Their bodies, left hanging for Saharistanis to defile and taunt at.

In response to overbers attack on Saharistan, Concador declares war on Overber, and is sending 100 F-22's bomb your Military bases. Each F-22 carries 8 air-to-air missiles (AIM 9 and AIM 120C), 6 air to ground missiles (assorted), and machine guns. They will be recalled if overbear wishes to surrender at any point.

50 more planes are now flying toward Overbear. Their targets are Industrial weapons/war machine plants. They will try not to hit civilians not in the plants. They are armed the same way as the other planes.

Because of the unloathful attack on Saharistan, Space Union hearby declares war on Overbear. We are now actively supporting Saharistan. Expect soldiers from Space Union to attack you.

President Harsimran Mann
Technocratic Republic of Space Union

From: Empress Serena, Ruler of The Imperial Republic of Hataria
To: all Parties

We Demand that you stop all WMD attacks and killing Civilians now, or we will Start Blockades of all your nations, starting with Saharistan.

and if Saharistan tries to round up Hatarian Civilians (Which will be hard since there are no Hatarians in Saharistan.) we will Invade.


Empress Serena of The Imperial Republic of Hataria

To: The People's Republic of Saharistan
From: The Dominion of The Second Holy Empire

Though I can only boast a small nation of 32 million, I wish to offer 2,000 of my best armed marines to defend your shores as well as supplies for the civilians of Saharistan. This is a symbolic symbol of my countries support with the hopes of establishing a mutual friendship for the future.

If the confrontation escalates, The Empire is prepared to declare war on any nations attempting to invade The People's Republic of Saharistan.

We wish you well.

~The Dominion of The Second Holy Empire

Message from the office of the Presidency of the People's Republic of Saharistan

To: Hataria

A STATE OF WAR NOW EXISTS BETWEEN THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF SAHARISTAN AND THE EMPIRE OF HATARIA.

This is in response to your threats and your plans for a blockade on Saharistan.

You have a nerve for trying to punish us for our just response of excecuting Overbear cititzens in relation to their WMD attack and their killing of THOUSANDS of our people.

ANY ships of your that approach our waters WILL be destroyed!

From the President of the People's Republic of Saharistan

Musab al Zarqawi

The McKagan Federation has a destroyer in the area operating under silent running conditions. It is now operating in theatre as a peacekeeper. Anyone who fires on another entity or enters foreign waters is subject to being fired upon.

From:

...and if Saharistan tries to round up Hatarian Civilians (Which will be hard since there are no Hatarians in Saharistan.) we will Invade.


Empress Serena of The Imperial Republic of Hataria

OOC: Ridicilous post, really. You threat him from hurting your citizens in same making sure that he cant do so by saying it is totally impossible. Like saying that I will burn your house if you try to burn my house, except that I have no house, bwahahahaowned!!!11. So you only hoped that he's be stupid enough to say he shoots your ppl, and as that is naughtyl and mean you'd be forced to revenge except that none of your ppl got hurt, and as so you have no reason to do so.
I know im repeating myself but this has reached sucha a level of stupidity I find it hard to put it in words... let's just say AAARGH. And then do some :headbang:

OOC: ^^^ Well said, i'm still waiting for someone to do something wrong so I can blow them up, though. :)

To: All Concerned Nations
From: Kenix Kil, Secretary of State, The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia
Re: Peacekeeping Vessel Deployed

The McKagan Federation has a destroyer in the area operating under silent running conditions. It is now operating in theatre as a peacekeeper. Anyone who fires on another entity or enters foreign waters is subject to being fired upon.

Likewise, The The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia has deployed the Arleigh Burke-class destroyer D.R.H. Valiant to the international waters just outside Saharistani waters under silent running conditions. It has linked up with the McKagan destroyer and is likewise acting as a peacekeeping/observation vessel. Any act of violence committed against the Valiant will be considered an act of terrorism and subject to a declaration of war from The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia. The Valiant will not be involved in any military actions in the region unless attacked, however, and will remain in international territory outside Saharistani waters for the duration of its peacekeeping role.

All other Halberdgardian military forces remain on DEFCON 2 alert status.

Respectfully,
Kenix Kil
Secretary of State
The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia

Message from the office of the Presidency of the People's Republic of Saharistan

To: Hataria

A STATE OF WAR NOW EXISTS BETWEEN THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF SAHARISTAN AND THE EMPIRE OF HATARIA.

This is in response to your threats and your plans for a blockade on Saharistan.

You have a nerve for trying to punish us for our just response of excecuting Overbear cititzens in relation to their WMD attack and their killing of THOUSANDS of our people.

ANY ships of your that approach our waters WILL be destroyed!

From the President of the People's Republic of Saharistan

Musab al Zarqawi

OOC: you do know that you are being outnumbered, Outguned and out of luck? nope, guess not.

Madnestan want's to ask do those "peace keeping" destroyers have any other job than sit there waiting that someone shoots them so that you two can get in to war? As you just said those ships will not do antyhing to anyone, WHAT exactly ARE they going to do then?

OOC:
Saharistan: 9 million
Hataria: 1.999 billion

I think Saharistan would think Trice about declareing war on one of the big nations

It is 0:00 hours and the fleet was up and they were leaving the port and they started to lunch the planes and the battleships got ready to attack overbears fleet then the night sky looked like daylight missile from the cost and the ships they all had one tarrget overbears fleet

Total Missile/Aircraft lunched
15 MIG-29
30 Anti-Ship missiles ( then 10 more after that)

Madnestan want's to ask do those "peace keeping" destroyers have any other job than sit there waiting that someone shoots them so that you two can get in to war? As you just said those ships will not do antyhing to anyone, WHAT exactly ARE they going to do then?

Well, the MFS Stryker was in the area for "other" "operations". The main goal now is to stop the situation from futher destabilizing, as that could possibly harm other interests in the region.

a Fleet has been sent to Overbear Territorial Waters to engage the Soviet leaders fleet and destroy it.

Super Sentai Shadow Galactica (The name of the Fleet)

6 Black Lady Class Carriers (with 56 RAGI-10 Fighters and 30 MiG-25s in each ship)
10 Neherenia Class Battleships
7 Pacifica Class Destroyers
9 Republic Class Destroyers
11 Asakura Class Curisers
20 Tangalee Class attack subs

Escourt Fleet
10 Empire Class Destroyers
30 Sea Wolf Class Subs
10 Barbarossa Class Curise Missile Subs
18 Gun Ho Class Surply Ships
1 Angel Class Hosptal Ship

The Fleet soon headed off to stop the attack.

The Fire-control department on the Stryker begins preselecting targets incase a firefight breaks out.

Hataria stand down or my fleet will destroy you. You have provoked the war on yourself.

President Harsimran Mann
Technocratic Republic of Space Union

OOC:

Since Hataria has thrown himself into this war just because he wants to and now is trying to play God and end everything in one battle, I propose we ignore the rest of his posts.

OOC: I am smart to know that this won't end the war, but it will get both sides thinking, since I am one of the bigger nations.

Why are you even attacking the soviet leaders ?

OOC: I am smart to know that this won't end the war, but it will get both sides thinking, since I am one of the bigger nations.

So you think that pushing your weight around will solve problems. Think again. You made a horrible choice, Hataria.

Hataria, you want ot attack Soviet Leaders fleet and that of Space Union, well they both have populations of over a billion.

Saharistan may be small, but many of our allies a large and have WMDs, so you are outnumbered in that no one is fighting on your side.

It is you who is outnumbered in total.

To avoid war, call off your blockade and stay out of this conflict, that your see your nation perish!

The Emirate of Willink has sent a priemitive strike on industial sectors in Saharistan. (5 MIG-31's, 10 Ching-Kou Fighters)

and why are your threatining the enemy with your allies ??

(If you beat me, up my friend will kill you. )

Saharistan

Fighters have been scrambeld and sent out to counter the Willink air force.

3 Willink jet fighters are able to hit an ammunition factory, the rest are destroyed by our own fighters and our AA missile and gun batteries.

Nice defensive move saharistan. I am in the process of moving 50 Mockingbird Nuclear missiles to the area if any naval forces come into skirmish.

Message from the office of the Presidency of the People's Republic of Saharistan

To: Willink

A STATE OF WAR NOW EXISTS BETWEEN THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF SAHARISTAN AND WILLINK.

This is for the unprovoked act of imperialistic aggression that Willink showed in their air attack on us.

In revenge Saharistan has excecuted 46 cititzens of Willink who were living and travelling here.

From the President of the People's Republic of Saharistan

Musab al Zarqawi

Aboard the deck of Stryker the weapons officers are plotting out targets for the ship-to-air missiles and ship-to-shore missiles.

Any nuclear missiles that are launched are sure to be challenged.

Using it's flight wing of helicopters Stryker locates several missile sites in the area, and adds the to the target list.

The Dominion of The Second Holy Empire Issues this statement:

In light of recent events such as the bombing, blockade, and threat of nuclear war against the People's Republic of Saharistan, The Second Holy Empire has no choice but to Declare a state of War against all nations hostile to Saharistan.

Forces are already pouring into Al Zarqawi Air Base outside of Baghdad. The number of troops in Saharistan are expected to exceed 200,000. Defenses are being constructed and any invasion force should be prepared for a very costly and bloody urban battleground.

Saharistan:

May we have premission to blockade your nation. This way we can keep out Hatarian and other enemy ships from your mainland.

Thank You.

As a deterent to any invasion, the McKagan Federation wishes to send a company of MSFA Commando's from Stryker to Saharistan to help fight any possible urban warfare.

To: Space Union.

Yes, but make exceptions for ALL allied nations and ships supporting our war effort.

In return our airforce will give your naval fleet air cover.

McKagan:

Send your troops to Zarqawi air base.

Thank you for your help.

Nice defensive move saharistan. I am in the process of moving 50 Mockingbird Nuclear missiles to the area if any naval forces come into skirmish.

OOC: 50 nuclear missles? A nation of 12 million? Nice try...

The Emirate of willink has launched 30 MIG-29's armed with Exocet missiles to attack the Remains of the overbear fleet.

holy empire, i have the prodution rights to 800 missiles from Feline catfish, and a small quantity is currently in my arsenal.

Willink, are you at war with us and overbear???

Yeah, seriously.

Whose side are you on?

No, i am just trying to remove overbear forces from the area.

Well, now that you are at war with Saharistan, ALL our allies AND overbear, coz they will respond to your attack, consider your pathetic nation destroyed.

YOU HAVE NO CHANCE IN HELL!

Well, now that you are at war with Saharistan, ALL our allies AND overbear, coz they will respond to your attack, consider your pathetic nation destroyed.

YOU HAVE NO CHANCE IN HELL!

I seriously don’t think he’s trying to attack you....only move his forces in to deal with Overbear...the nukes were meant to deter overbear, not rile you up....in pretty sure he’s still on your side.....correct me if I wrong Willink

Correct me if im wrong, but isnt my Country bigger than yours ? and i have many close friends that will come into conflict quicker than you think. The nukes are to deter the overbear fleet.

Correct me if im wrong, but isnt my Country bigger than yours ? and i have many close friends that will come into conflict quicker than you think. The nukes are to deter the overbear fleet.

OOC: Willink is slightly larger than Saharistan, however; it is only half the size of The Second Empire and much, much smaller than some of the other countries involved.

I am aware of this.

McKagan:

Send your troops to Zarqawi air base.

Thank you for your help.

The Commando's have arrived, with their blackhawk extraction helicopters.

If the country is overran, they'll make a run back to Stryker, though.

OOC: MY fleet is not in overbears waters they are in Saharistan they attacked overbear


IC: "OH...MY...GOD!" the emperor said
"They have nuclear weapones."

The fleet got ready for another round of missiles to attack overbears fleet
30 more missiles were lunched


OFFICAL STATEMENT FROM THE EMPIRE OF SOVIET LEADERS SENATE REPS.
We the senate are know asking Saharistan if we can build a army base on there land to help if this war gets any more heated up than it already is we are now getting ready to get ready for the biggest war that this nation has been in and we are now going to get the nuclear weapones that we own to be ready when it is need and if anyone lunchs WMD's against Saharistan will be attacked with WMD's them selves and we stand ready to enter this conflict to the full power of Soviet leaders even if we are 300,000,000,000,000 light years form earth we are ready to active are military

My nuclear missiles are for attack on overbears fleet.

The Stryker is still here as a peacekeeper, thus giving us the right to shoot down any missiles launched at his fleet, or vice versa.

Anyhow, do you need nuclear weapons to fire at a fleet of ships? Couldn't a naval gun barage do the same damage, without the radiation? Nuclear weapons in this theatre are overkill.

That said, Stryker has arrived at a port in Saharistan and begun sending security forces ashore to help secure it.

Any WMD's fired upon this country will also be an attack upon a McKagan Federation Vessel, which can result in a declaration of war.

For info on Mockingbird missiles please visit this thread, they are small, sea skimming anti-fleet missiles http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=415768 Here is pic (http://homepage.eircom.net/~steven/images/noranti.jpg)

Again, why does it need to be nuclear?

Please note that the Stryker being placed in a Saharistan port isn't a sign of allegiance, but what I hope will be a deterant at drawing another country into a war.

International Waters just outside of Saharistani Waters, 0130 Zulu

Captain Pash Cracken of the Arleigh Burke-class destroyer D.R.H. Valiant looked out the forward viewport of the bridge of his vessel and gave a tired sigh. His XO stood flanking him on his right. Aside from a few petty officers manning the sonar and hydrophone stations in the crew pits below the main bridge platform, intent in their concentration on their small screens and headphones, the bridge was empty.

"Jesus Christ, John, what the hell are all these people thinking?" Cracken asked his XO.

Lieutenant John Stewart, Cracken's XO, was formal as always. "Well, sir, I'm not really sure any of them are thinking."

"I mean, just look at it. Blockades? Nerve agents? Hell, John, if anyone so much as farts without declaring their intentions first, I'm pretty damn sure this whole fucking hellhole is going to go up in nuclear flames. Goddamn rogue nations with WMDs all over the place. And I'll tell you one thing: the Valiant is not sticking around here if the nukes start to fly. Although personally, I sometimes wish someone would just nuke that bastard al Zaraqwi and be done with it."

"Sir, I'm sure you're not alone in that sentiment."

"Damn right I'm not, John. But what I want to know is, where the hell are Leafanistan and Constitutionals? They declared on war Saharistan, for Chrissake, and not a single response from either of them for the past three days. Those McKagan bastards betrayed us, too. Went over to support those fucking Muslim extremist crazies, and Overbear is getting its ass kicked on the battlefield in the meantime."

"Yessir, the situation does not look favorable for the allied nations opposing Saharistan. As for the McKagan Federation, well, they did seem to betray their original peacekeeping edict. It's hard to tell what side some of these nations are on. And the complete lack of communication from Leafanistan and Constitutionals is odd. It makes you wonder just what's going on over there."

"You're damned right it does, John." Cracken sighed tiredly and rubbed his face. He was silent for a moment, but then spoke softly. "Any new orders from HQ?"

"No, sir. We're to hold position and keep observing the conflict."

"Dammit." Cracken took a deep breath and exhaled again. "OK. I'm going to get some shut-eye, John. I suggest you do the same. But first, get a full bridge crew up here, start the new watch, and tell the watch officer to wake me if anything important comes up."

"Yessir."

With that, Cracken left the bridge.

The Stryker sends out a radio signal to the Valiant.

"Captain, we came into this thing together to an extent, I'd like to arange a conference on either of our ships to figure out where we collectivly stand."

Has anyone had any contact with leafanistan yet ?

Nope, and frankly, I hope we don't. This region is already in a firestorm with a few nations that haven't actually declared war. If a nation that HAS declared war comes in, it's gonna get alot uglier than it already is.

Has anyone else notice that this is on page 10 and yet only 2 things have happened in the war(Excluding Overbear).

0145 Zulu, Saharistan Harbor

Captain Larson stood on the bridge of his vessel. It wasn't much later than it usually was when he turned in, espescially when they were in a warzone with nuclear weapons flying left and right. Larson worried about his crew. He already had a few Marines off in the city who were supposed to be a deterent to any invasion. But he knew that if it were going to happen a small force of guerilla fighters wouldn't make much of a threat to a tank column until the tanks had already been destroyed. But the would-be tank commanders didn't know that.

His XO walked over to him, complaining about the crew of another destroyer out in the bay who doesn't understand Strykers position even after continious radio transmission. The weapons officer on duty was still active. Calling in a labeling possible targets for destruction at a rate of 3/minute, still into the night.

The CO rubbed his eyes. "Leiutenant" he said to his XO. "It's nighttime, we don't any orders from HQ, but I would bet this thing is gonna blow up tommorow. I think we've became too pally with the Muslims, too. Let's face it, no ship here is going to post much of a threat to Stryker once we're undocked except for that damn Valiant out there in the bay." The XO seemed to wake up, and payed attention. The CO continued to talk "I have the Marines left aboard start moving out into the Harbor earlier to secure a peremeter. The Downs-class APC has been unloaded, too. Apparently the Muslims sense we're about to pull out, because they've made it awful damn hard to contact our Marines at the airport. This city has alot of AA coverage, but not many tanks in the streets, if we try to lift them outta here they'll get shot down for sure; I want you to take a few of the Marines off in the APC and pick up the others, come back, and we're leaving. You've got 3 hours to get there and back. If this position comes under attack I won't hesitate to use the main guns inside the city, but it'll be a hard fight with half of our Marines off ship. Bottom line, hurry back, please."

With that the XO walked off the bridge and met up with the Marines.

To Saharistan :

The Kingdom of Brendan Land has been waiting to wage a war, we request an immediate alliance with you so that our kingdom may join in the fight on your side. Our entire armed forces will be prepared to assist you.

We have 3.1 million soldiers ready to fight plus 500,000 in reserve.

Army=1 million
including
60 000 tanks
10 000 jeeps
10 000 missile trucks
10 000 troop transporters
9 000 armoured vehicles
3 000 repairs, health construction vehicles

Navy= 1 million

320 Battleships
500 cruisers
420 destroyers
90 nuclear air craft cariers
406 nuclear submarines

Airforce= 1 million

50 000 fighters
30 000 bombers
10 000 ground fighters
5 000 helicopters
10 000 troop carriers

we have the 100 0000 troops left to take the places of any killled from any service and the 500 000 defence force which is in reserve.

However 200 000 of the 500 000 reserve force is the Border Defence Guard.

The King of our Country has a small 3000 personal Guard also.

My troops can be dispatched to the front slowly due to their size.

Please accept my alliance.

His Excellency the King of the Kingdom of Brendan Land.

International Waters just outside of Saharistani Waters, 0145 Zulu

"Sir? Captain, sir?" John Stewart was standing over Cracken's sleeping form.

Cracken sat up groggily and rubbed his eyes. He glanced at the clock. 0145. He'd been asleep for 15 minutes. "I hope this is damned important, John."

"It is, sir. The skipper of the McKagan destroyer hailed us just now. Says he wishes to meet here in international waters for a conference."

"Good, John. That is important. Always knew I could trust your good judgment." Cracken grinned and clapped Stewart on the shoulder as he got up and began walking towards the bridge. "Let's send him a reply and see what we can arrange."

Cracken walked into the bridge seconds later looking slightly weary but dignified, and returned the crisp salutes he received as he entered. "As you were, men." The officers turned back to their posts as Cracken picked up the radio microphone. He turned to his communications officer. "Do we have commo with the McKagan ship?"

"Yessir, we're live."

"Good." He thumbed the toggle switch on the speaker. "McKagan Federation vessel MFS Stryker, this is Captain Pash Cracken of the DRH Valiant. How do you read?"

[OOC: Brendan Land, with a population of 10 million, your forces listed there is the most offensively huge godmodding I have ever seen. You obviously do not belong in this RP.]

Brendan land stop godmodding, besides there is no way you have almost 50% of your population in the army.


ATTENTION TO SHIPS IN INTERNATIONAL WATERS

I will be placing 2 hospital ships in International waters to help with any casualties of ships observing the conflict.

Ian Rousell, president,
Emirate of Willink

A squadron of Penpusher Air Force T-26 transport aircraft is being prepared to extract Penpusher citizens from the nation of Saharistan. The arrangements for this are as follows:

PAF/PN fighters will only escort the transports through international waters.
An airway be opened to allow our transports to arrive safely at Saharistani cities and extract Penpusher citizens.
No military aircraft encroach within an 80 mile radius around the aircraft.
The aircraft will not carry any armament.


If these aircraft are attacked by hostile action, we will have no choice but to intervene. None of these transports are carrying armaments. Due to our state of neutrality we do not want any Penpusher nationals harmed in this conflict, and we are extracting these people and all other flights passing through the warzone will be rerouted.

Most of the people being extracted are Penpusher Shell personnel working abroad with Saharistani oil companies. Due to the fact that most of these people are not involved in any way, we are demanding that they be allowed to safely leave the country.

We ask that Saharistan allow us to execute this. Additionally, Penpusher military bases around the world have all been placed on high alert. Air defenses have been placed and armed. PAF AWACS aircraft are scanning the furthest extents of our maritime boundaries. Additionally, more AWACS planes will be deployed around the region of Mecklenburgovia if the nations of the region allow it.

my figures are based on realistic data in the current world today and current technology that exists although with new applications.

now as for the size of my country to put it in perspective is roughly the same size and population as australia http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/as.html
and as you will see they also have a population of 20 milllion with 67% of the population being between the ages of 15 and 64 all of which is prime for an industrialized nations workforce and military strength if is is mandatory service and i have a RP military state.
and when i say military state i mean military state as much as sparta was and 1940's germany.
it is very possible, plausible and if a country the size of australia were to focus on nothing but being a complete military state then you would see military numbers as i have shown.
think of any modern super power and then imagine how many airplanes from a small single engine prop plane to commercial airliners and military planes exist are built and fly in and out of a single super powers country a day? now compound those figures with ships & boats large and small and any military vessel, then think of how many cars are owned and on the road and the numbers will be astounding.
now in the workld we all live in this will be a mixture of military and civilian with the majority being civilian.
now for this RP game again i have to stress my country is a complete military state so every city is a large military base, every vehicle, craft and ship is all military so it is highly possible.

but since nobody want me to play fine i will let everyone with no real vision or leadership have their wishes.

if anyone thinks what i have done here on nation states is unrealistic here are some facts:
67% or 20 mil is: 13,400,000 yes thats right 13 million
so hypothetically to say 1 third of that number was a fighting force would be
an army the size of 4,466,666 but i kept it realistic and at well below 5% at 700,000.

the US alone uses more than 20 mil barrels of oil a day

Former USSR (once the world's largest producer) production has declined more than 30% since 1988, from more than 12 to about 8 million barrels per day. In the early 2000s,production in Russia is recovering, and new production in Kazakhstan is coming onstream. Saudi Arabia produces about 5 to 9 million barrels per day (7.3 million in early 2002; production depends more on OPEC quotas and prices than on real capability).
* which means for the stupid people out there that saudi arabia can produce much more that 7.3 mil barrels a day but due to opec there is a quota set on production. so 15 mil barrels a day between 2 nations is not unrealistic at all.

the US alone has over 10,000 nuclear warheads so if it were a high priority production i think my nuclear aresenal total of only 6,800 in not unrealistic.

and for oil figures, country/population info here you can find facts and before anyone accuses me of a god mode complex i suggest everyone get their head out of their asse* and check some real world facts before they open their mouth and become an idiot.

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/as.html
http://www.worldhistory.com/wiki/U/United-States-Navy.htm
http://www.gravmag.com/oil.html
http://www.zmag.org/Bulletins/pnarcost.htm

this is RP and simulation and i used realistic figures for a total military state of a nation and where no vehicle land, sea, space or air is civilian and its all military.

good bye and good riddance to ignorance this seemed like fun but i think i better find people with more intelligence, imagination and foresight to play with.

To: All Concerned Nations
From: Kenix Kil, Secretary of State, The Diplomatic Republic of Halberdgardia
Re: Peacekeeping Vessel Deployed



Likewise, The Diplomatic Republic of Halberdgardia has deployed the Arleigh Burke-class destroyer D.R.H. Valiant to the international waters just outside Saharistani waters under silent running conditions. It has linked up with the McKagan destroyer and is likewise acting as a peacekeeping/observation vessel. Any act of violence committed against the Valiant will be considered an act of terrorism and subject to a declaration of war from The Diplomatic Republic of Halberdgardia. The Valiant will not be involved in any military actions in the region unless attacked, however, and will remain in international territory outside Saharistani waters for the duration of its peacekeeping role.

All other Halberdgardian military forces remain on DEFCON 2 alert status.

Respectfully,
Kenix Kil
Secretary of State
The Diplomatic Republic of Halberdgardia

Greetings.

This is a notice from Primum Mobile Nikolay Denekofv and Representitive Layaz D'Alcoance of the Rouge Nation of Scala Pacem, Upon hearing the news of Halberdgadia in any situation of threat, we activate our alliance, providing military support from bolth our countries.

Providing we are a peaceful nation, folowing the philosophical beleif of Oatisism, we will not attack unless attacked upon, but are at alert to defend our greatest ally.

The Dalvaktian army lists as follows.
- 450,000 are enlisted in the Dalvaktian National Defense Guard
- 300,000 of these people are Standard foot soldiers (1 M4A1 Assault Rifle, 1 Model 18 automatic handgun, 1 combat knife)
- 50,000 are heavy Artillery, (operatiors of a tank (takes 5 people to operate 1 tank) tanks have 2 automatic rifles and 5 heavy projectile missiles)
- 75,000 are Heavy Defense. (1 M60E Heavy macine gun, 1 model 18 handgun, extra amunition)
- 20,000 are Special Intelligence forces. (1 HK5K Semi-Automatic Rifle, p22 handgun, defusal kit, nightvision goggles)
- 3,000 Combat medics (1 p22 handgun, medical supplies)
- 2,000 Stealth Snipers (1 Sr-25 SD Sniper rifle, 1 p22 handgun, 1 flashbang grenade)

- 200,000 Are Enlisted in the Dalvaktian National Defense Guard- Air Division
- 75,000 operate Dalvaktian 759s (2 semi-automatic rifles, tracking deivces)
- 25,000 operate Dalvaktian Transports (maximum capacity,750 soldiers)
- 50,000 operate Dalvaktian Stealth Fighters (Stealth, 2 semi automatic rifles, 2 bombs (the equivelent of a bomber)
- 25,000 are machinists and engineers (non combatants, model 18 handgun)

- 225,000 are enlisted in the Dalvaktian National Defense Guard- Naval division
- 100,000 man the 759 submarine (takes 5 to man, 5 torpedos on board)
- 75,000 man the AEGIS Cruisers (10 to man, 2 assault cannons, 2 rocket launchers)
- 25,000 Man Dalvaktian Destroyers ( 20 to man, 10 assault cannons, 6 rocket launchers(heat guided missiles)
- 25,000 are machininsts and engineers (see the air division)

- 100,000 are in the Dalvaktian Honor Reserve Defences
- 50,000 Standard foot soldier ( 1 M4A1 Assault rifle, model 18 automatic handgun, 1 comabt knife)
- 5,000 AT-4 Heat specialists ( 1 HK5K, 1 model 18 automatic handgun, 1 AT-4 Shoulder mounted rocket launcher, 2 rockets)
- 20,000 Heavy Defense (1 M60E3 Havy Machine gun, model 18 handgun, extra ammunition)
- 20,000 Special Intelligence Forces (1 HK5K Semi-Automatic rifle, 1 model 18 handgun, 1 bomb defusal kit, 1 nightvision goggles)
- 5,000 Combat medics (1 p22 handgun, medical supplies)

Like stated before, The Commonwealth of Dalvaktia and The Rouge Nation of Scala Pacem are peace faring countries, but we will not tolerate any attacks on our homeland, our people, or our allies.

We have also seen the fact that neuclear weapons are in this battle. As much as we like to see other countries prospect and grow, we do not want to see this growth happen at the expense of innocent lives, and the destruction of the planet. If a neuclear missile is fired, we will have no choice but to politically blockade a nation, and will petition to other nations in the Surrounding regions, or the Untied Nations if we have to, to stop you from what you are doing, politically or otherwise.

Consider yourselvs aware, now, of our situation.
Nikolay Denekofv, Primum Mobile of Dalvaktia
Layaz D'Alcoance, Democratic Representitive of Scala Pacem

(ooc: i know its not the biggest army, but i dont think a peace-faring nation would spend alot of money on an enourmus army, right :) )

Captain Larson walked closer to the communications station. "Well Captain, this looks like it's going to turn ugly quick. We don't have our own individual fleets out here, it's just 2 destroyers. I was hoping we could form some sort of alliance, at least for this operation."

Larson turned to face the other side of the bridge, and then back to the communications station, he continued. "I'm sorry if it looks like we've been supporting the people in Saharistan. The landing party of Marines we sent in originally were supposed to act as a deterant to any invasion force. But that was when only a few nations were involved, once the WMD's started coming out we went in for extraction at a port a little south of the Airport we dropped our Marines out at."

The Captain took a seat.

"Those damn muslims have made it pretty damn hard for us to contact our men, they must sense we're ready to pull out. I've sent a few more Marines up to the Airport VIA APC. They went there originally by Blackhawk helicopter, but we figured that if we went to extract them that way they might get shot at. Either way, the Blackhawks found a way out during whatever conflict took place at the airport, they've made it back to Stryker. The APC is only a few blocks away and there is no enemy movement around Stryker."

The Captain laughed.

"Is that all you needed for us to prove we weren't siding with the muslim pigs?"

Stryker's APC drove up onto it's deck and then below deck, the helicopters were put into storage, and Stryker headed for the bay without any resistance.

International territory outside of Saharistani waters (henceforth known as "the Peacekeeping Zone"), 0645 Zulu

"It's a fucking miracle, John."

Captain Pash Cracken was awake for good now, able to run on the five hours of sleep afforded him. He was now sitting at the large wooden table in the small conference room near his quarters, nursing his second cup of coffee of the morning, and John Stewart sat across from him.

"Well, sir, some surprising events did happen overnight, yes."

"Goddamn, do I love the Dalvaktians right now." Cracken took a swig from his coffee and then put it down. "And I'd love to see that bastard al Zaraqwi try and shoot down the Penpusher helos, even though I know even he's not that stupid. Any news from HQ?"

"Yessir, and not good news. Halberdgardia is pulling out of North America."

"What?!"

"Yessir. Apparently our Secretary of State had a bit of a falling-out with the North American ambassadors and we've moved the country to Dalvaktia's region in the meantime."

"Those bastards! They wouldn't pull their fucking heads out of the sand to save their own goddamn lives, never mind come to the aid of another country."

"Yessir, it certainly seems like it." At this point, there was a knock on the door.

"Enter."

A petty officer from the bridge entered and saluted. "We've received communications from the McKagan destroyer, sir. We're live right now."

Cracken was instantly alert, and stood quickly to make his way to the bridge. "All right, John, let's see what side this guy's really on."

When Cracken reached the bridge, his crew, in tip-top shape as always, crisply saluted him. "As you were, men." He turned to his usual communications officer, and the man handed him a pad of paper with the messages the McKagan captain had left for Cracken.

"Jesus Christ, would you look at that. Maybe this guy ain't the bastard we thought he was." Cracken thumbed the toggle on the radio microphone. "Captain Larson of the MFS Stryker, this is Captain Pash Cracken of the DRH Valiant. Good to hear from you. Your previous message was much appreciated over here, as it looks like we didn't have a clear picture of the situation beforehand. We're glad we've got things clarified now. It's good to hear you got your Marines out of there; no respectable fighting force ought to be anywhere near those Muslim crazies and their little jihad." Cracken sat, then grew serious. "We'd like to take you up on your offer of a conference to determine where the hell we're both going with this, and so request that you meet us at our position in the Peacekeeping Zone. Alternatively, if you anticipate problems leaving Saharistani waters, we might be able to arrange entry into their waters. They might not like that much, though. We'll have to see. If we're unable to meet, then perhaps we can arrange a radio conference via encrypted commo. How do any of the above options sound to you? Over."

Captain Larson was glad to know that Valiant was willing to talk. Stryker rocked through the waves as it went at full speed ahead to try and meet up with Valiant within the hour.

"Get the Valiant back on the line, Ensign!" Larson yelled as he sat down at the comm station. "We're ahead of schedule, Captain, we'll be there within the hour even if they do try to stop us. It's a muslim nation, what kind of Navy could they possibly have?"

The Stryker's Marines were busy below deck repairing their Adams-class Attack Helicopters. The need for APC's would have been eliminated if the Adams' had been available, but they were shortly out of commission after one of the previous skirmishes in another theatre.

The XO walked onto the bridge after coming from the infirmary. He had taken some shrapnel in the shoulder on the last op, but was ok.

"Sir, Valiant at 2 o'clock, transmitting welcome message."

To: The Allied Countries of The United Powers of Oatisism
From: Kenix Kil, Secretary of State, The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia
Re: Many Thanks

Greetings.

This is a notice from Primum Mobile Nikolay Denekofv and Representitive Layaz D'Alcoance of the Rouge Nation of Scala Pacem, Upon hearing the news of Halberdgadia in any situation of threat, we activate our alliance, providing military support from bolth our countries.

Providing we are a peaceful nation, folowing the philosophical beleif of Oatisism, we will not attack unless attacked upon, but are at alert to defend our greatest ally.

The Dalvaktian army lists as follows.
- 450,000 are enlisted in the Dalvaktian National Defense Guard
- 300,000 of these people are Standard foot soldiers (1 M4A1 Assault Rifle, 1 Model 18 automatic handgun, 1 combat knife)
- 50,000 are heavy Artillery, (operatiors of a tank (takes 5 people to operate 1 tank) tanks have 2 automatic rifles and 5 heavy projectile missiles)
- 75,000 are Heavy Defense. (1 M60E Heavy macine gun, 1 model 18 handgun, extra amunition)
- 20,000 are Special Intelligence forces. (1 HK5K Semi-Automatic Rifle, p22 handgun, defusal kit, nightvision goggles)
- 3,000 Combat medics (1 p22 handgun, medical supplies)
- 2,000 Stealth Snipers (1 Sr-25 SD Sniper rifle, 1 p22 handgun, 1 flashbang grenade)

- 200,000 Are Enlisted in the Dalvaktian National Defense Guard- Air Division
- 75,000 operate Dalvaktian 759s (2 semi-automatic rifles, tracking deivces)
- 25,000 operate Dalvaktian Transports (maximum capacity,750 soldiers)
- 50,000 operate Dalvaktian Stealth Fighters (Stealth, 2 semi automatic rifles, 2 bombs (the equivelent of a bomber)
- 25,000 are machinists and engineers (non combatants, model 18 handgun)

- 225,000 are enlisted in the Dalvaktian National Defense Guard- Naval division
- 100,000 man the 759 submarine (takes 5 to man, 5 torpedos on board)
- 75,000 man the AEGIS Cruisers (10 to man, 2 assault cannons, 2 rocket launchers)
- 25,000 Man Dalvaktian Destroyers ( 20 to man, 10 assault cannons, 6 rocket launchers(heat guided missiles)
- 25,000 are machininsts and engineers (see the air division)

- 100,000 are in the Dalvaktian Honor Reserve Defences
- 50,000 Standard foot soldier ( 1 M4A1 Assault rifle, model 18 automatic handgun, 1 comabt knife)
- 5,000 AT-4 Heat specialists ( 1 HK5K, 1 model 18 automatic handgun, 1 AT-4 Shoulder mounted rocket launcher, 2 rockets)
- 20,000 Heavy Defense (1 M60E3 Havy Machine gun, model 18 handgun, extra ammunition)
- 20,000 Special Intelligence Forces (1 HK5K Semi-Automatic rifle, 1 model 18 handgun, 1 bomb defusal kit, 1 nightvision goggles)
- 5,000 Combat medics (1 p22 handgun, medical supplies)

Like stated before, The Commonwealth of Dalvaktia and The Rouge Nation of Scala Pacem are peace faring countries, but we will not tolerate any attacks on our homeland, our people, or our allies.

We have also seen the fact that neuclear weapons are in this battle. As much as we like to see other countries prospect and grow, we do not want to see this growth happen at the expense of innocent lives, and the destruction of the planet. If a neuclear missile is fired, we will have no choice but to politically blockade a nation, and will petition to other nations in the Surrounding regions, or the Untied Nations if we have to, to stop you from what you are doing, politically or otherwise.

Consider yourselvs aware, now, of our situation.
Nikolay Denekofv, Primum Mobile of Dalvaktia
Layaz D'Alcoance, Democratic Representitive of Scala Pacem

(ooc: i know its not the biggest army, but i dont think a peace-faring nation would spend alot of money on an enourmus army, right :) )

The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia sincerely thanks the allied nations of the United Powers of Oatisism for their support of Halberdgardia in these difficult times. We find their willingness to provide support for us in a conflict in which they were not obligated to join worthy of the highest praise and recognition, and President Kir Kanos is therefore most happy to award both Primum Mobile Nikolay Denekofv of Dalvaktia and Representative Layaz D'Alcoance of Scala Pacem our country's highest military honor: the Medal of the Order of the Halberdgardian Falcon, First Class. The people of Halberdgardia are truly in your debt for your selfless support, and we are most grateful for it.

Respectfully,
Kenix Kil
Secretary of State
The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia

Lets see, this is why your godmodding,



US size during WW2- 138.39 million
Your size-20 million

Us naval battleships-27
You= ~800
US aircraft Carriers-127
You-850
Us crusiers-31
you-1800
Us destroyers-~1000 including escort destroyers
You-1000
US naval subs-200
You-900
So i would shut up because your navy is totally unporportional And lasers are godmodding.

The Peacekeeping Zone, 0725 Zulu

"Commo, are you sure our message was received by the McKagan skipper? It's been forty minutes and still nothing."

"Yessir, Captain, we reported no problems with our commo system. Everything checks out."

"Sir!" Another voice broke in from the crew pit below. "We've got a contact on sonar!"

Cracken was instantly alert. "Profile?"

"Matches that of a destroyer, sir. Comparing the waterline profile of the ship to our records, sir, it appears to be the McKagan vessel."

"Where's she coming from?"

"Two o'clock, sir. No pursuit showing up, and she doesn't appear to be damaged."

"Looks like the Muslim bastards let her out after all." Cracken thumbed the toggle switch on the microphone for the ship intercom. "Crew, this is the Captain. We have a contact bearing at two o'clock. It is the McKagan vessel MFS Stryker and she is a friendly, repeat, friendly. She's picked up all McKagan forces from inside Saharistan territory and is returning to international waters. We are opening up commo as we speak. All weapons officers, remain at your posts in case of a sneak attack, but stand down. That is all. Cracken out." He turned to his commo officer. "OK, open up commo again." The commo officer worked at his post, then nodded at Cracken. "Captain Larson, good to see you made it out of that hellhole. We've got you on sonar bearing at two o'clock. If you've got an ETA, we can have some coffee ready and hot for you when you get here. We'll be waiting for your approach. Cracken out."

The Stryker steamed through the waves at it's top speed. The seas were calm, but at such as high rate of speed it was still a little bumpy on the bridge of a somewhat large ship.

"Leiutenant, return our main guns to their original position and take them offline just to verify that we aren't going to try and blow the other ship out of the water." Larson said as he walked by the weapons station.

"Someone get some lights on in here!" the XO said as he sat down. The ship had returned to silent running conditions after leaving the harbor incase any muslim on the coast decided to fire a RPG at Stryker. The freedom to be hidden had played to Stryker's advantage, as they had been able to use their flight deck to repair the helicopters instead of doing it all below deck.

"Sir, message from Valiant, requesting an ETA." the new communications officer on bridge said handing a notebook with the actual message on it to Larson.

"Tell em' we'll me there within 20 minutes, giving that we don't get attacked by a tugboat with a grenade launcher. Also ask them if I can bring a semi-armed guard aboard the ship with me."

Larson walked off the bridge to freshen up before they got within range of the Valiant.

To: Penpusher

You do have the right to extract your citizens from our nation.

Send in your evacuation fleet.

Our air force can provide you with air cover, if you wish.

OOC: Jesus Christ, how in God's name did I miss this thread? I have been gone a while, I feel embrassed. So now I'm going to ask the most pertient and irrelevant question, what happened?

Well, read all 11 pages on this thread and you see how this war between you and me now involves many other nations.

Overbear went to war with me over the most stupid of reasons, my nation excecutes homosexuals! :confused:

A few nations have sent troops in to help various sides, and a few nations have already fire upon one another.

I am another nation have peacekeeping forces here.

Well, read all 11 pages on this thread and you see how this war between you and me now involves many other nations.

Overbear went to war with me over the most stupid of reasons, my nation excecutes homosexuals! :confused:

OOC: Jesus Christ, we shoulda closed this, I for one condemn the use of WMD, because that would just annhilate everyone, we don't want another Feline Catfish now do we.

Leafanistan does declare that thanks to purchasing we have all manners of nuclear, biological and chemical weapons, these however are just deterrants if they can ever be called that.

OOC: Give me some time to sort this out

The Peacekeeping Zone, 0730

"Communications from the Stryker, sir! They say an ETA of 15 minutes from now. The skipper's also requesting permission to bring an armed guard on-board."

"What the hell? Well, I guess he is justified in a way. It's hard to tell who's on which side sometimes. OK, send him the following message: Permission for an armed guard granted, he may bring two guards with sidearms, or his XO and one guard, both of which may be armed with sidearms. And please be sure to ask them that we'd like them to keep it to pistols, as there's really no need for weapons given that this is a simple conference for peacekeeping purposes."

Lieutenant John Stewart strode onto the bridge at a fast walk.

"Captain Cracken, sir! We've just received news!" Stewart said as he came to attention in front of Cracken and saluted.

"At ease, John. What's the news?"

"Leafanistan has finally returned communications, sir! They're entering the war!"

At this piece of news, the whole bridge went up in an uproarious cheer and men starting clapping each other on the back, congratulating one another.

"That is the best goddamn news I have heard in the past four days, John. Men, return to your posts, we've got the Stryker inbound and we need to give 'em a warm welcome. Come on, John," Cracken said as he began to walk off the bridge. "Let's get cleaned up and ready to meet with Larson."

The Stryker was pulling up beside Valiant when Larson walked off the bridge to the deck, where a ramp had came over from Valiant and the two crews stood facing each other.

Two Marines with their standard sidearms walked to Larsons side as he walked to the officer at the landing area on Valiant, directly beside the entrace ramp.

"Are we ready for our little conference, we'd better hurry, this is about to explode."

Larson stood waiting for a response.

"It sure as hell is, Captain." Cracken extended his hand, and Larson shook it firmly. "Good to see you. This is my XO, Lieutenant John Stewart. He'll be sitting in on the discussion. Well, as you said, time is of the essence here, so let's get down to the conference room and get this started in earnest." With that, the party descended down into the ship.

After the fairly short walk down to the conference room Larson was motioned to a seat where he was to sit, with a Marine on each side of him.

"Well Captain, what are our goals here? I know that personally I don't want to see any muslim expansion into new grounds, but I also don't want this area blanketed in radiation or the likewise while the Federation has operations still going on here. Do you have any particular objectives?"

Larson shifted in the chair.

Finally he gets here, anyway anyone heard from overbear ?? I attacked him yesterday(RL)

This is the Leafanistani Republican Navy on move to Stryker, currently we are designated the 2nd Expeditionary Force under authorization to use any means to disable the enemy's military forces, we are here only to destroy weapons.

6 Nimitz class aircraft carriers

Per Carrier Resources

-40 F-22 Raptors
-8 F/A-18 Hornets
-5 A-10 Warthogs
-2 E-2C AEW
-4 EA-6B Prowler
-5 S-3B Viking
-2 ES-3A Shadow
-7 H-60 Black Hawk


12 Ticonderoga class guided missile cruisers
27 Bravo-class Multipurpose Destroyers, with Microwave LASER turrets for anti-missile use, and many many, anti-shipping missiles
30 Skate-class frigates another multirole ship
6 Arleigh Burke class guided missile destroyer
18 Oliver Hazard Perry class frigates
12 Los Angeles class attack submarines
12 Supply class fast combat support ship

We are currently under orders to support your fleet and begin operations only after the Machiavelli-class Cruisers execute order 189.

The Machiavelli-class Cruiser is an odd thing, containing the normal armaments except offensive guns, it has a rather large hump on the rear, I wonder what that does?

OOC: No, but I wish that someone would go ahead and invade or fire upon someone to make this thread more interesting...

This is the Leafanistani Republican Navy on move to Stryker, currently we are designated the 2nd Expeditionary Force under authorization to use any means to disable the enemy's military forces, we are here only to destroy weapons.

6 Nimitz class aircraft carriers

Per Carrier Resources

-40 F-22 Raptors
-8 F/A-18 Hornets
-5 A-10 Warthogs
-2 E-2C AEW
-4 EA-6B Prowler
-5 S-3B Viking
-2 ES-3A Shadow
-7 H-60 Black Hawk


12 Ticonderoga class guided missile cruisers
27 Bravo-class Multipurpose Destroyers, with Microwave LASER turrets for anti-missile use, and many many, anti-shipping missiles
30 Skate-class frigates another multirole ship
6 Arleigh Burke class guided missile destroyer
18 Oliver Hazard Perry class frigates
12 Los Angeles class attack submarines
12 Supply class fast combat support ship

We are currently under orders to support your fleet and begin operations only after the Machiavelli-class Cruisers execute order 189.

The Machiavelli-class Cruiser is an odd thing, containing the normal armaments except offensive guns, it has a rather large hump on the rear, I wonder what that does?

OOC: Dude, is that hostile, or in support of me?

"My nation has been asked to intervene on both sides of this conflict by various nations, and I have this to ask - what is it about, why should I support either side and who is most likely to win? Once I have this information, I will be able to advise Parliament on a course of action. Until then, I'm afraid I can't support either side."

King George of Catfish

Currently priorities have shifted, we aren't allowed to make a move into territorial waters until higher command designate so. We currently have several diplomats that are asking for representatives from all nations. If we are a defensive fleet there must be one hell of a threat here.

"My nation has been asked to intervene on both sides of this conflict by various nations, and I have this to ask - what is it about, why should I support either side and who is most likely to win? Once I have this information, I will be able to advise Parliament on a course of action. Until then, I'm afraid I can't support either side."

King George of Catfish

From what we understand what started as a war between us and Saharistan over who supports what terrorists has bloomed into this. Right now my fleet is not under combat orders but to escort several diplomats. I know its a rather large fleet, but with all this going on I think its warranted. We would also recommend that Feline Catfish stay out of the war, I don't want any of your vessels or aircraft to be accidently downed in case it goes hot.

The two Halberdgardian Marines stood at attention as the party entered the conference room and settled in.

"Well, Captain, let me speak frankly. We've been keeping a close eye on Saharistan ever since our intelligence agencies picked up reports of Saharistan seeking WMDs on the global black market. We managed to bust the deal and alert the Anti-WMD Club, a coalition of non-proliferation-supporting countries. However, our fears were again brought up when this war broke out. We feared that Saharistan would re-attempt to acquire WMDs under the cover of war. So, we sent in our Secretary of State, Kenix Kil, to give any other participating nations a more objective view of the conflict than all that propangandistic bullshit Saharistan's been spewing. Didn't do much good, as you can see, because, well, most of Saharistan's allies actually believe that bullshit. Apparently, Saharistan got pissed off at Secretary Kil and demanded to know what our intentions were. He sent back a message saying we wanted to remain neutral and weren't revealing our intentions until Leafanistan re-opened communications. At that point, Saharistan issued an ultimatum: cease all involvement in the war, or be viewed as an ally of Leafanistan. Which brings us up to now. If we enter Saharistani waters, I'm pretty sure we'll be inviting a declaration of war. But our main purpose, in my opinion, is to be here to tell Saharistan, 'Don't fuck with us.' But, officially, we're hear to observe the conflict on behalf of the government of Halberdgardia and to watch for any violation of Saharistan's agreement not to use WMDs."

Earlier Stryker sent Marines to the main airport in Saharistan, but after communications between Stryker and the Marines got cut, we went to a port south of the airport and extracted them via sending an APC up through the city.

The idea of the Marines was to act as a deterant, but that was before so many nations got involved.

Due to this confusing situation from lack of communcations we are sending two diplomats with 2 Republican High Guards man/woman via Blackhawk to any neutral vessel in international waters to begin talks. Our zombie situation has become dangerous and nearly a quarter of our navy is engaged in land bombardment.

(OOC: Yeah zombies that is it, that is why I didnt' answer, it wasn't friends or Star Wars III, thats it.. zombies...)

Larson leaned forward.

"That sounds good to me. Nukes are never good, and i'll support you and your government in trying to stop any launch. Our goal here isn't as drastic, unless they declare war on us the State Department back in the Federation will just view them as terrorists, much like every other muslim nation. We have 2 attack helicopters and 2 'tactical transports', those plus our APC give us the range to do just about any strategic mission we want in this theatre. If war is declared, it wouldn't be very hard for us to take that airport. I mean, we launched an APC in the port and drove all the way to the airport without even seeing any enemy armor. The airport isn't very well protected, either. It's large, with alot of blind spots units could sneak through without being detected.

That raises other concerns. The nations who are already at war are moving in fleets. Not only do we have to worry about the WMD's flying back and forth, but now we could be caught in one hell of a naval gun battle. What do we do if we come under fire by a 20+ ship fleet? Or get caught between 2 20+ ship fleets that don't like each other very much?"

Sirs, we are under orders not to fire but only to defend ourselves, however I don't know what High Command is up to but we got some Machiavelli-class Cruisers sitting about 200 miles back with their own escort fleet, frankly, I'm stumped. But I've heard rumours about them, freaky rumours. We are just here to deliver the diplomats and ensure their safety.

Since Leafanistan has joined us, I would like to offer Leafanistan the chance of backing down. They're invasion of Saharistan is unjustice. If you don't comply you will recieve full declaration of war from us.

President Harsimran Mann
Technocratic Republic of Space Union

The Emirate of Willink has sent a naval presence in the area for blokading and if needed, the protection of the 2 peacekeeping destroyers.

here are ships i sent


3 MEKO A200SA type patrol frigates pic,not very good (http://commi.narod.ru/img/20001002.jpg)
Displacement: 3,590 tons full load
Dimensions: 121 x 16.3 meters
Propulsion: CODAG: 2 diesels, 2 shafts for cruise; 1 gas turbine, 1 shaft for boost; 26 knots
Crew: 100 + 20 transients
Aviation: helicopter deck and hangar for 2 Lynx
Armament: 32 cell VLS for SAMs, 8 MM40 Exocet SSM, 1 76mm OTO DP,
2 20 mm CIWS, ASW torpedoes



2 Type 124 Frigates Pic (http://www.defence.gov.au/dmo/msd/sea4000/images/F124(2).jpg)
Displacement: 5,960 tons full load
Dimensions: 143 x 17.2 x 7 meters meters (469 x 56 x 22.4 feet)
Propulsion: 2 shafts; 2 cruise diesels, 19,848 bhp, 1 LM2500 boost
gas turbine, 32,500 shp, 29 knots
Crew: 225 + 14 flag
Aviation: helicopter deck and hangar for 2 Lynx helos
Radar: APAR 3-D multifunction
Sonar: DSQS-21B
EW: FL-1800S II intercept, chaff
Armament: 32 cell VLS (24 SM-2MR and 32 ESSM), 8 Harpoon SSM, 2 21-cell
RAM launchers, 76 mm OTO DP, 2 triple 12.75 inch torpedo tubes, 2 20 mm


1 Haruna class ASW destroyer pic (http://www.hazegray.org/navhist/carriers/images/japan/ddh142.jpg)
Displacement: 6,550 tons full load
Dimensions: 502 x 57 x 17 feet
Propulsion: Steam turbines, 2 boilers, 2 shafts, 70,000 shp, 32 knots
Crew: 340
Aviation: Large aft helicopter deck and hangar; 3 SH-60J helicopters
Radar: OPS-11C 2-D air search
Sonar: OQS-3 bow
Fire Control: FCS-2 Sea Sparrow control
EW: NOLQ-1-3 intercept/jammer, 4 SRBOC
Armament: 1 8-cell Sea Sparrow launcher, 1 ASROC, 2 5/54 DP,
2 20 mm Phalanx CIWS, 2 triple 12.75 inch torpedo tubes


1 Murasame class large frigate(Command Ship) Pic (http://www.jda.go.jp/JMSDF/data/equip/IMG/murasame.jpg)
Displacement: 5,100 tons full load
Dimensions: 495.5 x 56 x 17 feet
Propulsion: 2 SM1C cruise gas turbines (27,000 shp) plus 2 LM2500
boost gas turbines (33,000 shp), 60,000 shp max, 30 knots
Crew: 170
Aviation: Aft helicopter deck and hangar; 1 SH-60J
Radar: OPS-24 2-D air search
Sonar: OQS-4A bow, OQR-1 TASS towed
Fire Control: 2 FCS-3 missile control
EW: NOLQ-3 intercept/jammer, SRBOC RL, SLQ-25 Nixie towed
Armament: 1 16 cell VLS (VL ASROC), 1 16 cell VLS (Sea Sparrow),
1 76 mm OT DP, 2 20 mm Phalanx CIWS, 2 triple 12.75 inch torpedo tubes

Since Leafanistan has joined us, I would like to offer Leafanistan the chance of backing down. They're invasion of Saharistan is unjustice. If you don't comply you will recieve full declaration of war from us.

President Harsimran Mann
Technocratic Republic of Space Union

Sirs our senate is slow and bogged down, right now a retraction of the delclaration of war is in order because the zombie situation has escalated, they've seized a nuclear reactor south of New Bronxhaven, and are taking the city. We are getting conflicting orders and we just lost communication with the capital. Right now I berated a High Guard Intel officer and took his intel package, the cruisers are some sort of supersonic missile cruisers and plan to bombard any fleet moving toward us with hostile intentions. The "secret orders" were to make sure this situation doesn't escalate and reach some sort of compromise. I can't understand why they needed to be kept from me. Personally I just want to go home and fight a real threat.

I am Captain John Sierra Alleluia aboard the HFS Sierra.

We are awaiting the acceptance of our diplomats.

Also we have heard that Overbear went nuts with some chemical weapons, whats the situation with them?

"As you probably guessed," Cracken said with a chuckle. "the Valiant is not the extent of Halberdgardia's navy. We have other ships back home ready to deploy and support us if necessary. What our nation may lack in numbers, we make up for with the quality of our military and the element of surprise. Our nation's military is on DEFCON 2 alert as of right now, which is just below full military readiness. Essentially, we're on hair-trigger alert right now. We can come up to full military readiness in an instant. So, we do have some naval forces available to support us should we get caught between fleets." Cracken grinned. "Other than that, it's all a matter of how well you can drive that beauty of a ship of yours."

Overbear has launched WMDs against Saharistan. If he doesn't give up I'm entering the conflict.

President Harsimran Mann
Technocratic Republic of Space Union

OOC: Who's on who's side?

Overbear has launched WMDs against Saharistan. If he doesn't give up I'm entering the conflict.

President Harsimran Mann
Technocratic Republic of Space Union

OOC: Who's on who's side?

Sirs a Pelican has just landed with a High Guard Intel Officer aboard, we have a signed note that the delcaration of war has been retracted after Overbear launched WMDs, the Senate is discussing what to do with that, a large part of the Red Brigade was either arrested or killed today after Leafanistani Protection Forces seized a major operating center in Tiberia City. Zombies continue the seige of New Bronxhaven, and the capital has lost power, that is why we cannot get radio contact. As of now I am the commanding officer of the 2nd, 3rd, and 150th Naval Expeditionary Force with nearly full autonomy, and my mission has been to establish peace. Right now my fleet is now neutral and I'm in one big headbanger of a situation right now. I think with the Red Brigade rendered impotent our business associates in Saharistan take precendence, however I just want to go home. Ugh, I never shoulda signed up for this. Shoulda become a barber.

The flagship of the Willink navy has just been dispatched to the area.

WNF-Eagle(Kresta 2 class ASW cruiser) PIC (http://www.steelnavy.com/images/Kombrig%20Drozd/kresta-IA-a.jpg)
Displacement-5,600 tons standard, 7,535 tons full load
Dimensions-Length 521.5 ft; Beam 55.1 ft; draught 17.4 ft
Propulsion-2 shafts;pressure-fired steam turbines; 4 boilers; 91,000 shp;32 knots;5,200 nm at 18kt
Armament-2 x SS-N-14 Lauchers(8 Missiles); 2 x SA-N; 2 x RBU-6000; 2 x RBU-1000;4 x 57mm guns; 4 x AK-630 gatling;10 x 21 in (533mm) TT
Aircraft- 1 helicopter

By the order of the president, this ship has been ordered to meet up with the rest of the Willink fleet in the area.

GRLS Yuri Skate-class Frigate

The commanding officer of this ship sat on his chair and stared at incoming reports. He wondered when dinner would be served, whether wartime dictates that he eat an MRE here, he hated those things. Sure they weren't that bad but they lacked something. Then the ship shook and a fireball erupted from on of the missile pods, a missile flew out and quickly fell into the water, it exploded, rupturing the ship. More missiles fired screaming into the air following wild paths. The officier knew without command coordinates they were just bombs flying through the air, he radioed the rest of the fleet to get their LASERs, and guns online and to shoot them down. The ship listed to port and he hit the evacuation alarm. His command crew fled the deck except for one man who stayed at his post.

Bravo-class destroyer LASERs arced through the air invisibly downing missiles left and right, one fell out of the sky without a guidance system and rammed into HFS Gearbox damaging it badly but with no casualties, most missiles fell harmlessly into the water, 2 streaked straight into the destroyer HFS Zhang sinking it rather quickly killing 87 sailors.

In all 102 sailors are dead, 1 ship sunk, 2 badly damaged and in the process of sinking.

The commanding officer noticed something odd about the man staying at his station, only one hand was on the control panel, the other was below the panel, the officer removed his service pistol a Walther P99 and fired on him. The man crumpled on the panel and the sprinkers came online all over the ship, he turned him over and found him to be holding a red star in his hand. A sign of the Red Brigade. The ship groaned in agony from the explosion, the officer quickly looked under the panel and found a laptop connected to it, he hacked the system, it was sabotage. The officer left the body there and headed for the lifeboats.

"As you probably guessed," Cracken said with a chuckle. "the Valiant is not the extent of Halberdgardia's navy. We have other ships back home ready to deploy and support us if necessary. What our nation may lack in numbers, we make up for with the quality of our military and the element of surprise. Our nation's military is on DEFCON 2 alert as of right now, which is just below full military readiness. Essentially, we're on hair-trigger alert right now. We can come up to full military readiness in an instant. So, we do have some naval forces available to support us should we get caught between fleets." Cracken grinned. "Other than that, it's all a matter of how well you can drive that beauty of a ship of yours."

Larson now felt at a disadvantage. "The McKagan Federated Navy doesn't have any other ships this far out. We don't have any major ships that can be here within the next 2 days. Right now we're on our own. But that's what Stryker was designed for. We've not been to homeport in over 6 months, and won't be for another 3. We've fought in 3 major engagements on this voyage alone.

We can however have 2 divisions of tanks deployed here if need be, but that's not going to go well with the people back home. If you don't mind, Stryker will operate with any fleet that your nation brings into theatre."

To: LEAFANISTAN

Saharistan will be willing to end the war with you, although we will keep our war on Overbear and other hostile nations.

Please send a reply with the aim of having one of our diplomats to come to Leafanistan to cancel our state of war with you and to oversee your senates confirmation of this.

To: LEAFANISTAN

Saharistan will be willing to end the war with you, although we will keep our war on Overbear and other hostile nations.

Please send a reply with the aim of having one of our diplomats to come to Leafanistan to cancel our state of war with you and to oversee your senates confirmation of this.

Sirs as commanding officer and acting representative of our government we accept this declaration and I would like to know what exactly is Overbear made of. I'm no fan of WMDs and killing civilians, also please do not open fire on the fleet, the missile launch from one of our frigate is believed to be either a malfunction or sabotage from internal forces, we have lost about 100 men and women, and are trying to rescue many more, 2 Blackhawks with 4 diplomats and 4 bodyguards are ready to meet on a neutral ship to discuss the terms of peace.

Aboard the bridge of Stryker the weapons station came to life. Within moments 3 more weapons officers came to the bridge.

"Sir!" the lead weapons officer said to the XO, "LEAFANISTAN's fleet just came under missile attack! One of their frigates has been abandoned!"

The XO calmly sipped on his coffee, "Send a message to the Captain and the other vessel, tell them it has begun."

While this was taking place, the Marine's manned every gun around the ship, all the anti-missile and anti-aircraft batteries came online, and the crew was prepared to lay down a blanket of fire. The Flight Detachment launched a Seahawk Helicopter for logistical support and to get a better view of the battlefield.

The XO yelled overtop of the noise of the ship coming to life. "Ask the other fleet if they need assistance!"

Larson now felt at a disadvantage. "The McKagan Federated Navy doesn't have any other ships this far out. We don't have any major ships that can be here within the next 2 days. Right now we're on our own. But that's what Stryker was designed for. We've not been to homeport in over 6 months, and won't be for another 3. We've fought in 3 major engagements on this voyage alone.

We can however have 2 divisions of tanks deployed here if need be, but that's not going to go well with the people back home. If you don't mind, Stryker will operate with any fleet that your nation brings into theatre."

"Damn. That complicates matters. I'll talk to my government and see what they say, but I'm sure that if we bring in more forces, we would be happy to include your vessel in our fleet. However, I'm not sure if we'll be bringing in any more forces now that Leafanistan appears to be pulling out. We'll have to see."

The Captain John tried to establish communcation but some sort of jamming was interfering. Then him and the Intel officer realized what was happening. The Red Brigade was trying to provoke something, they wanted a war so they could take advantage of a weakened military and take over. He ordered the ships to take on a defensive formations and split up into 3 groups, he ordered 2 subs to surface and rescue sailors. This was going to be a long night.

Message from the office of the Presidency of the People's Republic of Saharistan

To: Halberdgardia

IF YOU DO NOT WITHDRAWL ALL YOUR NAVAL VESSALS AND YOUR SO CALLED OBSERVERS FROM THIS CONFLICT, SAHARISTAN WILL ISSUE AN TOTAL STATE OF WAR WITH YOUR NATION.

Saharistan has become sick and tired of your nation's janus faced approach to this conflict. On the one hand you pretend to be 'peacekeeping observers' yet your sysmpathies clearly are with our enemies.

You worry over our past attmept at obtaining WMD, yet we resolved this issue with the Space Union and Penpusher and EVEN after we were attacked with WMD by Overbear, we have no intentions of responding with WMD, as we DON'T have any!

Yet your hypocracy is disgusting as you have niether condemmed Overbear for their WMD attack on us nor have you done what a REAL peacekeeping force would have done, which is to destroy the WMD bases in Overbear.

Your nation is nothing but a gang of lying cowards as you clearly want to enter this war, but cannot do it without worring about the fact that other nations will rightly see you in the wrong.

Saharistan's Air Force has been prepared for a FULL assualt on your naval fleet if you do not pull out of this war NOW!

"Damn. That complicates matters. I'll talk to my government and see what they say, but I'm sure that if we bring in more forces, we would be happy to include your vessel in our fleet. However, I'm not sure if we'll be bringing in any more forces now that Leafanistan appears to be pulling out. We'll have to see."

One of Larson's Marines motioned to him, and then gave him the news.

"Captain," Larson said to his counterpart "It would appear that the missiles have started flying; I must go back to my ship now, what are you going to do?"

Captain John Alleluia did his best to restore order via signal lights throughout the fleet. Suddenly a spotter aircraft noticed two large bright lights on the horizon, John contacted the 150th Expeditionary Fleet via low amplitude microwave the only freq that hadn't been jammed that badly, the Captain of that fleet has taken the initiative and ordered his Machiavelli-class Cruisers to take all 8 of their Katana Supersonic Cruise Missiles and fire them on Overbear's missile silos. He said he got his data from Satellite photos taken an hour ago and decided that he was going to save lives his way. John ordered that the Captain be arrested and thrown into the brig, this wasn't good. Captain Alleluia didn't want a war. He ordered that they try to use signal lighting to establish communications with the Stryker, he got 2 Skates, and a Bravo to move in and try to establish communication.

The Grand Duchy of Blessed Restraint is incensed over the irrational behavior of halberdgardia, including the fact it has such a large military even though it has no defense budget.

The elite Shadow Ranger Motorised Infantry Division
7300 Troopers
5000 AN-94s
1000 M136 Antitank weapons
1000 HK MG 43s
200 SR-100 Sniper Rifles
100 M99 Sniper Rifles

750 BMP-2 APCs
150 Challenger 2 Main Battle Tanks

We shall depart momentarily, as we are taking shipment of 4 troop transports and 2 Bravo class Destroyers.

Disengage or face the consequences Halberdgardia. Your violations shall not be tolerated.

The Grand Duchy of Blessed Restraint is incensed over the irrational behavior of halberdgardia, including the fact it has such a large military even though it has no defense budget.

The elite Shadow Ranger Motorised Infantry Division
7300 Troopers
5000 AN-94s
1000 M136 Antitank weapons
1000 HK MG 43s
200 SR-100 Sniper Rifles
100 M99 Sniper Rifles

750 BMP-2 APCs
150 Challenger 2 Main Battle Tanks

We shall depart momentarily, as we are taking shipment of 4 troop transports and 2 Bravo class Destroyers.

Disengage or face the consequences Halberdgardia. Your violations shall not be tolerated.

OOC: At least you are using my weapons.

Captain John Alleluia did his best to restore order via signal lights throughout the fleet. Suddenly a spotter aircraft noticed two large bright lights on the horizon, John contacted the 150th Expeditionary Fleet via low amplitude microwave the only freq that hadn't been jammed that badly, the Captain of that fleet has taken the initiative and ordered his Machiavelli-class Cruisers to take all 8 of their Katana Supersonic Cruise Missiles and fire them on Overbear's missile silos. He said he got his data from Satellite photos taken an hour ago and decided that he was going to save lives his way. John ordered that the Captain be arrested and thrown into the brig, this wasn't good. Captain Alleluia didn't want a war. He ordered that they try to use signal lighting to establish communications with the Stryker, he got 2 Skates, and a Bravo to move in and try to establish communication.

The Communications officer onboard Stryker used his computer to send signal's for the message "What do you need us to do?"

The Second Holy Empire is now establishing a Terrorist Training Facility near its command headquarters in Saharistan. If the removal of these hostile "peacekeeping" forces is not seen within the next few days, an elite unit of 150 soldiers will begin sabotage and guerilla warfare tactics.

Civilians are no exception.

The fate of your people lies with you.


~The Dominion of the Second Holy Empire~

Aboard Stryker the Marine Commando Unit is breifed for possible anti-terrorism exercises.

"Boy's, we might be going back to that sandbox again, be ready to go at any time."

The Communications officer onboard Stryker used his computer to send signal's for the message "What do you need us to do?"

"Ignore explosions in our fleet"
"Sabotage"
"Saving sailors"
"Unauthorized Cruise Missile Deployment"
"Not our intention"
"Directed against Overbear"

The Communications Officer knew the Weapons Department was itching to fire off some of the missiles and main gun shells that have been loaded for the last 3 days.

"Are there any targets you want Stryker to fire on?"

"Disabling Supersonic Stealth Cruise Missiles difficult"
"Already half-way there"
"Out of range"
"Taking responsiblity"
"May be attacked by Overbear"
"Prepare for possible NBC deployment by Overbear"
"Lord have mercy"

The Communications Officer sent a rather long message for signals.

"We have 3 of their missiles/complexes in our targeting computer. We can possibly take those out, but we need to know, are the complexes hardened, will we need something on par of a bunker buster to do any damage? Or can we just bombared them with naval gunfire and missiles?"

McKagan, are you targeting those missles at Saharistan?

If you are then you will be at war with us!

"Reports hardened, half-buried"
"Possible mobile trucks"
"Wish not to escalate"
"Captain will not surrender targeting information"
"Wait for our missiles to land"
"Pray"

I believe it is overbear they are fighting against.

The Shadow Rangers are available for an attack against Overbear to take over some of their cities. The force is trained for urban warafare and are outfitted for a mobile, yet powerful response.

McKagan, are you targeting those missles at Saharistan?

If you are then you will be at war with us!

No, Overbears missiles.

And if your Air Force attacks our friends on the Valiant you will be at war with us.

"War is becoming target: Overbear"
"Missiles are entering final decent"
"Fleet is spreading out"
"Suggest don NBC protection"
"I am so getting court-martialed"

OOC: This may just be the chance to see my weapons used in an urban warfare situation.

"Reports hardened, half-buried"
"Possible mobile trucks"
"Wish not to escalate"
"Captain will not surrender targeting information"
"Wait for our missiles to land"
"Pray"

"Ok"
"But be aware that if missiles are fired from them"
"complete naval bombardment"
"Put forth"
"Radiation sickness prevention protocols"

"Marine Commando Unit Standing by to assist in urban warfare"
"APC being prepared for airlift to shore"

"Fleet Alert Full"
"Wearing Chem suits"
"Outdoor Person Full Suit"
"Cannot contact Capital: Concord"
"Remaining Aircraft: Land Bombardment"
"3rd Exped. Force on route, Land Bombarment"
"Hopefully won't escalte"
"Most likely will"
"Have 40,000 Republican High Guard Dragoons"
"Can invade: Overbear"

The hull of Stryker was designed specifically to defeat radiation and biochemical threats, all airlocks are sealed and activated, except for the axillary craft port, where the APC comes up, along with one of the Adams Class attack helicopters. The APC begins being outfitted for the nuclear/chemical threat, and the helicopter launches for tactical operations for the upcoming battle.

"Carry 100 AVT-90M Tanks Full NBC"
"Carry 50 Type 96R Tanks Full NBC"
"Await Overbear Response"

The Bravo Class destroyers Deimos and Lysander challenge the Halbergardian destroyer Valiant.

"Finally we get to test out our new advanced weaponry."
"We are issuing a warning, all Exocet missiles are locked onto you Valiant, disengaged before we are forced to fire."

The remaining attack helicopter and the main guns aboard Stryker now target the Deimos and Lysander ships.

"Please stand down. This is a neutral fleet conducting peacekeeping operations in international waters."

The Bravo Class destroyers Deimos and Lysander challenge the Halbergardian destroyer Valiant.

"Finally we get to test out our new advanced weaponry."
"We are issuing a warning, all Exocet missiles are locked onto you Valiant, disengaged before we are forced to fire."

Who's side are you on?

I am challenging Halberdgardia and possibly McKagan. Halberdgardia has no place owning a military as its defence budget is 0. McKAgan, you should also disengage, or I shall be forced to send the 75000 strong Blessed Restraint regular army. My two bravo destroyers have 60 Exocet anti-ship missiles between the two of them, more than enough to finish off the Valiant and Stryker.

The Bravo Class destroyers Deimos and Lysander challenge the Halbergardian destroyer Valiant.

"Finally we get to test out our new advanced weaponry."
"We are issuing a warning, all Exocet missiles are locked onto you Valiant, disengaged before we are forced to fire."

This is the Leafanistani Republican Navy Expeditionar*static*

Disengage weapons
*static*
weakness are known, we manufactured those vessels
*static*
neutral peacekeeping vessels
*static*
attack pointless
*static*
we are engaging our
*static*
stand down

You have not heard the last of me. I shall leave. for now.

I am challenging Halberdgardia and possibly McKagan. Halberdgardia has no place owning a military as its defence budget is 0. McKAgan, you should also disengage, or I shall be forced to send the 75000 strong Blessed Restraint regular army. My two bravo destroyers have 60 Exocet anti-ship missiles between the two of them, more than enough to finish off the Valiant and Stryker.

For all you know Halberdgardia won his Navy in a card game.

75,000 for your army? I drawf that. But that doesn't matter, my homeland isn't involved in this.

As for 60 missiles between the two, we have Naval guns that make the missiles look like popguns.

I repeat, we are neutral craft's in International waters conduction peacekeeping operations. If you don't like someones accounting practices send them an email or something, don't blow em' up.

Firing on us would be in violation of half a dozen treaties and protocols, I suggest you turn around and let us take care of the dude with the nukes.

OOC: I am embrassed to report that I was the one that lost a task force to him in a card game, but to be fair, I had 4 kings, I didn't realize he had a straight flush.

Saharistan:

This conflict has become so confusing that I might pull out. Is that alright? If you are attacked of course I will keep a Naval Taskforce in your waters.

OOC: I do give people ships as gifts for alliances and to further business dealings. Besides 1 NS Year = 1 RL Day, he coulda made a lot of money in that time.

Okay, I can understand your confusion, now Leafanistan is not hostile, yet this war was supposed to be against them them.

But the war is now against Willink, Overbear and most possibly Haldargaira

Why is everyone going up against Haldargaira?

I consider them an ally, and will help them against any agressors.

Saharistan, since the reason for this war is uncertian, so i am requesting a cease fire. We should unite agains overbear, and destroys them for there heynous crimes against humanity.

Outside Saharistan Air Space----

"9er Zulu alpha this is Santa calling Tower do you Copy?

We have your shipment"

Air fleet out side your Airspace

500 C130
3000 FF Raptors
10,000 Mig
1000 F120 DropShips

Saharistan, since the reason for this war is uncertian, so i am requesting a cease fire. We should unite agains overbear, and destroys them for there heynous crimes against humanity.

As commandign offcier of the fleet I agree with this action and request that we should instead take down Overbear for using Chemical Weapons against innocents.

*Hand delivered by Intel Officier*

I'm in favor of uniting against Overbear.

Is everyone agreed to that?

Aye

OOC: Don't you all love how Overbear turned a regional conflict into a large-scale war involving naval fleets, invasion forces, and WMDs?

In that case it's time I show my hand. The amphibious assault ship Firefox is under an hour away from Stryker.

Firefox carries

5 Seahawk Helicopters
5 Blackhawk Helicopters
7 Adams Class Attack Helicopters
40 Abrams Main Battle Tanks
20 Downs Class Fire Support APC's
15 Downs Class Amphibious Assault APC's (seaworthy)
40 Hummers
Along with the crews for those units, it carries 400 Marines and numerious missile, gun, and artillery batteries.

Where are we going to make landing?

OOC: Don't you all love how Overbear turned a regional conflict into a large-scale war involving naval fleets, invasion forces, and WMDs?

OOC: Welcome to International Incidents. Here's your dogpile.

No, I'm not getting involved IC; just OOCly following along.

Aye

OOC: Don't you all love how Overbear turned a regional conflict into a large-scale war involving naval fleets, invasion forces, and WMDs?

Indeed,

I was here as a peacekeeper with a destroyer, now i'm invading a country.

OOC: Welcome to International Incidents. Here's your dogpile.

No, I'm not getting involved IC; just OOCly following along.

OOC: I got that feeling to, but this time we have a good reason. In the middle of a standoff Overbear walks in and chem bombs civilians. I think that is a good a reason as any.

The Penpusher transports have taken off from Alfland AFB and are en route to Saharistan. A squadron of PAF fighters will escort the planes through international waters until they are 10 miles from the Saharistani maritime border. From that point SAF fighters will escort them through assigned air corridors. They will arrive in 8 hours' time.

As commandign offcier of the fleet I agree with this action and request that we should instead take down Overbear for using Chemical Weapons against innocents.

*Hand delivered by Intel Officier*

actually he didn't Saharistan shot down the missiles over Civilian centers...thought i don't condem the actions by Overbare i cant say that i approve either, like i would use something like Stealth bombers to deliver the Nerve agents for that matter of minimizing civilian casualties

Half of the willink navy is being deployed to the region for the standoff with Overbear.

Saharistan will consider this proposal to unite all nations against Overbear on these conditions:

* This new anti-Overbear alliance will aim to destroy completley the nation of Overbear and that there nation be put under international control and their government disbanded.

* The President of Overbear is to be handed over to Saharistan for excecution.

* That Overbear pay ALL nations involved in this new anti-Overbear alliance, reparations for our expenses incured in our war efforts.

* That Overbear will NEVER again be allowed to posses any military force whatsoever.

* Saharistan and Leafanistan should arrange a meeting between our two presidents to resolve all differences and to agree on a way to work together.

Saharistan:

Your lines are far too harsh. Those lines will damage the population not the government for their government's action. Instead we should capture their leaders and install a new government with close monitering from the Anti-Overbear Coalition. Don't hurt the civilians for their government's actions.

President Harsimran Mann
Technocratic Republic of Space Union

How about a international meeting in Baghdad to discuss the points of the anti overbear coalition ?

I'll agree with that.

But I don't know if their economy can support repaying us for invading.

The price of bringing the Firefox in will break some economies!

OOC: Does Overbear even know what is going on?

He has ignored us since soviet lands said he was attacking them.

How about a international meeting in Baghdad to discuss the points of the anti overbear coalition ?

Should we be spreading ourself out like this, and then placing all our people in Baghdad? I mean, we haven't actually invaded yet.

If all our leaders were in Baghdad, that would make an easy target.

I say we invade now and determine what to do later.

Saharistan will consider this proposal to unite all nations against Overbear on these conditions:

* This new anti-Overbear alliance will aim to destroy completley the nation of Overbear and that there nation be put under international control and their government disbanded.

* The President of Overbear is to be handed over to Saharistan for excecution.

* That Overbear pay ALL nations involved in this new anti-Overbear alliance, reparations for our expenses incured in our war efforts.

* That Overbear will NEVER again be allowed to posses any military force whatsoever.

* Saharistan and Leafanistan should arrange a meeting between our two presidents to resolve all differences and to agree on a way to work together.

We are currently talking through Stryker via Visible Freq LASER impulse comms, and without communcation with the capital this is not possible. However I do have 10 diplomats here who represent our nation. We'll be glad to discuss this and..

*pause*


Oh god, half the Supersonic cruise missiles were directed at just normal military bases. Damn that rouge. Ok, we now will expect full retaliation on behalf of Overbear, I'm moving the Machiavellis farther away and restocking them. I am also splitting into Task Force Zulu, X-Ray and Hotel, I will be in X-Ray and Hotel and Zulu will spearhead the invasion force. We have to end this before he targets civilian centers again.

To: Saharistan Government
From: P3X1299 Foreign Office

In light of the recent massacre of your civilian and military personnel by Overbear chemical weapons, on your sovereign territory, we would be willing to join a coalition against Overbear

Sincerely,
Jonathan O'Malley
P3X1299 Secretary of State