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Feline Catfish DEMANDS Nuclear Weapons

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Feline Catfish
24-04-2005, 13:53
"On behalf of the Emperor King George III of Catfish, I hearby declare that the Republic of Feline Catfish humbly requests the purchase of nuclear weapons from members of the world. We need these weapons to defend ourselves against evil foes who seek to destroy our entire way of life. We will not use these unless provoked. If they are not procured within 3 days, we will be forced to develop them ourselves and then the world will know fear."

Royal Spokesman.
New Endenia
24-04-2005, 14:04
"Don't be absurd."


-Random Aes Sedai From the White Towe-
Feline Catfish
24-04-2005, 14:05
"If all you have to say is some meaningless comment then do please keep it to yourself."

Royal Spokesman.
Skinny87
24-04-2005, 14:07
OOC: Just a little bit of OOC advice from a past newbie player. This sort of thread is usually ignored and seen as a type of godmodding, mainly because such small nations as yours cannot yet afford to have any type of Nuclear Weapons.

I would suggest redoing this thread as some sort of press-conference about your nation and draw more positive attention to your nation. I would also suggest reading the 'Stickies', the threads in each of the forums at the top of the pages, to get to know NS in a better and more coherent way. Perhaps even inviting countries to a banquet or Embassy exchange instead of rather arrogantly demanding nuclear weapons?

Just a bit of advice.
Feline Catfish
24-04-2005, 14:10
"Perhaps we could educate your nation as to the nations smaller than us which have nuclear weapons - ie Israel. With a wealthy benefactor, there will be no problem."

Royal Spokesman.
Really Bad Chefs
24-04-2005, 14:22
Well! :) Must admit, I do admire Feline's spunk! No caving and running away with fins drooping...And, in my nation, we really have a strong appreciation for ... catfish... Sorry I have no nukes but Catfish is most welcome to be, er, come to dinner anytime! Welcome welcome! :D
Feline Catfish
24-04-2005, 14:23
"Thankyou, Really Bad Chefs. We wish to persue diplomatic relations with your nation. Perhaps include an exchange of embassies and kitchens."

Feline Catfish.
Taldaan
24-04-2005, 14:27
The Taldaani Ministry of Defence is intrigued by your request. We have a rather large stockpile of nuclear weapons, which to be honest we are probably never going to require. As you have so wisely promised not to use them, we would be willing to sell you 300 ICBMs for 1 million dollars each.

Taldaan Ministry of Defence

ooc: Before anyone jumps me for this, I know what I'm doing.
Really Bad Chefs
24-04-2005, 14:28
This would be a most welcome move, I accept, and make the same offer in kind. Welcome!
Feline Catfish
24-04-2005, 14:30
The Taldaani Ministry of Defence is intrigued by your request. We have a rather large stockpile of nuclear weapons, which to be honest we are probably never going to require. As you have so wisely promised not to use them, we would be willing to sell you 300 ICBMs for 1 million dollars each.

Taldaan Ministry of Defence

ooc: Before anyone jumps me for this, I know what I'm doing.
"Thankyou for this excellent gift. Our engineers will inspect them first to make sure nothing is wrong, and then we shall install them in hidden launch sites around the nation.

We would also like to announce the beginning of work on an embassy with Really Bad Chefs in our capital, Catia."

Royal Spokesman

There isn't anything wrog with the missiles is there?
Really Bad Chefs
24-04-2005, 14:47
Greetings! We appreciate and respond in kind. Work has begun on a spectacular complex of trees, sand pits, toys for cats and complex beautiful ponds and man-made rivers for catfish to run free! We of course build the best kitchens in the world, even if we don't know how to use them to cook a good meal! Your embassy in our capital, Emeril, will be a showpiece I'm sure!
Taldaan
24-04-2005, 14:49
To: The Government of Feline Catfish

We apologise for our last transmission, concerning a consignment of nuclear missiles. Our representative was in a drunken state at the time of the message. He has subsequently been fired. We regret any disappointment caused, but we are afraid that we must withdraw our offer.

Taldaan Ministry of Defence

ooc: Curses... Next time, next time...
Strathdonia
24-04-2005, 15:04
OOC: wow 12 posts and none has decided to send you a couple of nukes via ICBM...
IC:
The Kingdom Of Crookfur would advise the Republic of Feline Catfish administration that the possesion of atomic is a major hassle and such a huge drain on the defence budget that they simply aren't worth bothering about until you have the budget to support both the weapons themselves and the delivery methods in the large numbers required to make them useful.

As such we would urge you to turn your defence spending to more productive areas of development and capabilities (like a nice big integrated air defence network).

We would also offer the possibility of deploying a small Crookfur Airforce detachment to your nation including a full squadron of airborne lasers thus removing the need for you have nuclear weapons as an attack on you would carry the consquence of a Crookfur counter strike which woudl open up a whole new world of hurt on the world.
Huzen Hagen
24-04-2005, 15:06
Our government has a shall we say substantial stockpile that we need to reduce. We are prepared to offer you thermonuclear warheads in addition to stockpiles of biological and chemical weapons and the means to manufature more. Price is not much of an issue as this is stock we wish to get rid of cheaply and quickly. Name what you want and what price your willing to pay for it and we can will be abe to finish this deal shortly

OOC: dont worry theres no surpirses, im just sick of people going "your not allowed to have nukes untill you reach x population"
Feline Catfish
24-04-2005, 15:07
"Whilst this is appreciated, we cannot allow foreign troops on how soil, and our offer request remains open. Regardless, we would like to exchange embassies with your nation."

Feline Catfish
Feline Catfish
24-04-2005, 15:10
Our government has a shall we say substantial stockpile that we need to reduce. We are prepared to offer you thermonuclear warheads in addition to stockpiles of biological and chemical weapons and the means to manufature more. Price is not much of an issue as this is stock we wish to get rid of cheaply and quickly. Name what you want and what price your willing to pay for it and we can will be abe to finish this deal shortly

OOC: dont worry theres no surpirses, im just sick of people going "your not allowed to have nukes untill you reach x population"
"Thankyou very much! Our engineers will inspect the weapons and, if they mean our standards, will be installed throughout the nation in camoflagued launch sites. We now consider you allies and will always come to your aid. Thankyou very much. We would be willing to pay £100,000,000 from the King's own reserves to pay for a total of, say, 50 missiles in ICBM delivery systems. Of course, any better offer you can offer us would be appreciated."

Feline Catfish

PS. We would also like a full nuclear production facility, for which we can pay another £100,000,000.
Huzen Hagen
24-04-2005, 15:15
"Thankyou very much! Our engineers will inspect the weapons and, if they mean our standards, will be installed throughout the nation in camoflagued launch sites. We now consider you allies and will always come to your aid. Thankyou very much. We would be willing to pay £100,000,000 from the King's own reserves to pay for a total of, say, 50 missiles in ICBM delivery systems. Of course, any better offer you can offer us would be appreciated."

Feline Catfish

That would be more then adaquate. We will supply you with 50 of our Peackeeper ICBM's, they will function as a more then adequate deterent to your enemys. We recommend that you arrange for an escort for the ships that will transport the missiles. Huzeny frigates will accompany them only untill they are out of our territorial waters, after that its your problem. We hope you have fun with them.
Hataria
24-04-2005, 15:19
To: Feline Catfish
From: Hataria

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Feline Catfish
24-04-2005, 15:23
That would be more then adaquate. We will supply you with 50 of our Peackeeper ICBM's, they will function as a more then adequate deterent to your enemys. We recommend that you arrange for an escort for the ships that will transport the missiles. Huzeny frigates will accompany them only untill they are out of our territorial waters, after that its your problem. We hope you have fun with them.
"We will deploy seven Flower Class Corvettes and a Battle Class Destroyer to escort them to our nation. No nation will cross us now."

Royal Spokesman

Message to Hataria:

"What? I think you should see a doctor."

Random Beaurocrat.
North East Somerset
24-04-2005, 15:27
North east Somerset has a large excess of Nuclear weapons dating back a long time. They're effectiveness/probability of success is reduced to 70%because of their age but they are safe. We are prepared to sell you 236 Standard 1MT ICBM Nuclear missiles and the equivilant in Railway transportable launching systems for only $2.36 million. It is cheaper for us to sell them to you than dispose of them. We will transport them to your counrty in 50 Fleet Auxiliary vessels accompanied by Royal NESN frigates/destroyers/submarines to your country.

Confirm this post and they will be sent immediately.

NES Nuclear Authorities
Prime Minister Terence Proctor
Feline Catfish
24-04-2005, 15:29
"Thankyou, Mr Procter. We are now able to obliterate nations at will, and you and Huzen Hagen get all the credit for it! You shall always be our allies."

Royal Announcement
Van Luxemburg
24-04-2005, 15:33
"I hope he doesn't start with "obliterating" without a reason...."

random persons talking at their office in van Luxemburg.
The Parthians
24-04-2005, 15:36
How about two free nuclear warheads with a yeild of 5 megatons and three ICBMs of the Minuteman variety? If you want those, I'll ship them to you via cargo vessel to your largest port.

-Shah Khosru III
Feline Catfish
24-04-2005, 15:44
How about two free nuclear warheads with a yeild of 5 megatons and three ICBMs of the Minuteman variety? If you want those, I'll ship them to you via cargo vessel to your largest port.

-Shah Khosru III
"That will be excellent. Hand the ship over just in internation waters, where it will be searched and engineers will check the contents, and then when the weapons have been unloaded we will return control of the ship. We would also prefer you docked at the Dogger Bank Shipyards rather than our largest docks."

Royal Announcement
The Parthians
24-04-2005, 15:47
"That will be excellent. Hand the ship over just in internation waters, where it will be searched and engineers will check the contents, and then when the weapons have been unloaded we will return control of the ship. We would also prefer you docked at the Dogger Bank Shipyards rather than our largest docks."

Royal Announcement

Excellent, I have just ordered the vessel dispatched. If you need assistance paying for the upkeep of these weapons, I will contribute something.

-Shah Khosru III
Feline Catfish
24-04-2005, 16:01
Excellent, I have just ordered the vessel dispatched. If you need assistance paying for the upkeep of these weapons, I will contribute something.

-Shah Khosru III
"That would be very much appreciated, noble Shah."

Feline Catfish.
North East Somerset
24-04-2005, 16:06
The missiles are being collected and packaged for dispatch. They should arrive at your nation in approximately 4 hours (2 NS months) from now.

They are being transported in 42 Auxiliary Fleet vessels escorted by 61 'Atlanta Class' Frigates, 23 'Pacifica Class' Destroyers, 3 'Arctica Class' Cruisers, 5-15 'Fisher Class' Patrol Submarines, 5-15 'Whaler' Class Attack Submarines, 22 'International Class' Patrol ships, 4 'Legionary Class' Minesweepers and 78 'Superior' Class Corvettes.

(For stats all are from the NSN storefront except minesweepers which are Praetonian)

We hope you are aware of what a major operation this is to us and will give your support at all times, thanks Terence.

(You may search the vesssels once they reach international waters, and when the escorts have reached your territorial waters they will return to NES)

NES Nuclear Authorities
Prime Minister (Doctor) Terence Proctor
Feline Catfish
24-04-2005, 16:11
"We agree. We are sure that these missiles will ensure decades of mantainance-free obliteration."

Someone.
Feline Catfish
24-04-2005, 16:19
The Ankhmeti Socialist Republic would like to state that if Ankhmet wants to put troops on your soil your people should welcome them with open arms. Your lack of diplomatic skillhas been noted from the first time you showed the world the existence of your pitiful state.

Random Commissar.
"Any such act would be considered an unprovoked invasion and will prompt a full strategic nuclear responce. You have been warned. The Democratic Republic of Feline Catfish shall not take such threats lying down."

Royal Statement
North East Somerset
24-04-2005, 16:19
Our gov't has decided to donate $50 billion to you as an ally and also to help you to maintain the missiles that we have sent you. An exchange of embassies would be appreciated.

Prime Minister Terence Proctor and the Minister of Finance.
Jeruselem
24-04-2005, 16:20
We hope you do not bite the hands that have fed your nuclear ambitions.

God Bless
Feline Catfish
24-04-2005, 16:20
Our gov't has decided to donate $50 billion to you as an ally and also to help you to maintain the missiles that we have sent you. An exchange of embassies would be appreciated.

Prime Minister Terence Proctor and the Minister of Finance.
"Thankyou. With the recent addition of many nuclear weapons, this donation and IFVs pending from Hogsweat we are really going up in the world as a defensive military power."

Royal Statement
Feline Catfish
24-04-2005, 16:21
We hope you do not bite the hands that have fed your nuclear ambitions.

God Bless
"The nations which have provided us with weapons are held in the greatest esteem by our people and government. Nations such as Ankhmet, which seek only to destroy any ability we have to defend ourselves from aggressive powers such as themselves, are derided on the streets."

Royal Statement
Feline Catfish
24-04-2005, 16:22
Terrifying. Your powerful arsenal of 50s nuclear weapons.
"It is enough to destroy the majority of your country, and more are on the way."

Random Beaurocrat.
Miniferg
24-04-2005, 16:32
Miniferg has 20 SS-9 ICBMS sitting in some of our older silos that we have not gotten around to decomissioning yet. We will replace them with our newer SS-27 Topol. We will sell Feline Catfish these SS-9s for 1 Million USD.
Malkyer
24-04-2005, 16:33
"It is enough to destroy the majority of your country, and more are on the way."

Random Beaurocrat.

Not exactly. Were you to nuke someone like Ankhmet, he may lose the equivalent of a large city or two. If Ankhmet chose to nuke you, you would cease to exist.

We are always eager to offer advice to young nations, and we hope you listen: Do not threaten nations with cities larger than your entire country.

-Official Royal Statement
Ankhmet
24-04-2005, 16:35
Listening to Malkyer may save your nation.
Feline Catfish
24-04-2005, 16:36
"A single hit would destroy his capital. 5 hits would destroy all his major production capability. 20 hits would kill most of his populace. 50 hits would destroy his entire country. It doesn't matter what happens to us after that - he is destroyed. That is the principal of MAD. It's a deterrant."

Random History Teacher

Miniferg has 20 SS-9 ICBMS sitting in some of our older silos that we have not gotten around to decomissioning yet. We will replace them with our newer SS-27 Topol. We will sell Feline Catfish these SS-9s for 1 Million USD.
"That is agreed. We shall hand over the money on arrival."

Royal Announcement
Space Union
24-04-2005, 16:40
Since Ankhmet is my enemy, I will help fund you with $700 billion for your own use. And if he launches an attack I will come to your aid.
Ankhmet
24-04-2005, 16:40
"A single hit would destroy his capital. 5 hits would destroy all his major production capability. 20 hits would kill most of his populace. 50 hits would destroy his entire country. It doesn't matter what happens to us after that - he is destroyed. That is the principal of MAD. It's a deterrant."

Random History Teacher


"That is agreed. We shall hand over the money on arrival."

Royal Announcement

You make some assumptions there:
1) You know where my capital is :D (may sound silly, but do you?)
2) You seem to assume I have no SDI facilities. Due to the outrageous number of idiots with nukes 20% of the military budget goes to SDI.
3) You assume I don't import most of my stuff.
Feline Catfish
24-04-2005, 16:46
"We can easily find out where your capital is by getting some random tourist to go to your nation and buy an A to Z, or just getting a gov't official to look it up on the web. It isn't that hard. Also, as I stated we only need 1 to get through to seriously mangle your nation. I don't see why we're arguing this - invade us and get nuked, or shut up and stay neutral. I dont know why you have been threatening us for so long."

Royal Announcement
Malkyer
24-04-2005, 16:47
"A single hit would destroy his capital. 5 hits would destroy all his major production capability. 20 hits would kill most of his populace. 50 hits would destroy his entire country. It doesn't matter what happens to us after that - he is destroyed. That is the principal of MAD. It's a deterrant."

True, it would cause horrific destruction, but that is ignoring two important factors. One, that he may have a workable ABM system in place. Two, that he can survive more than you. Let us say that each missile is capable of destroying a city of 5 million people (for the sake of simple math). 20 of those would kill 200 million. A huge number, to be sure, but not something Ankhmet will never recover from. Whereas, Ankhmet must only launch two of an equivalent missile to completely and utterly annihilate your nation.

The point I'm trying to get across is that MAD is a good way to ruin everyone's day, and the best way to avoid it is to not threaten nations that are far more likely to survive it than yours.

Emperor Dayan I
Miniferg
24-04-2005, 16:48
We shall send your ICBMS on cargo ships escorted by three Kirov class battlecruisers, eight sovremenny class destroyers, and four Victor III class submarines. They should arrive in 2 Ns months. Once the ships reach Feline Catfish waters, the escorts will turn back and it will be your responsibility to protect the cargo ships.

OOC. Link to my storefront: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=392334&highlight=miniferg
Space Union
24-04-2005, 16:48
Where is this 700 billion coming from? After looking on NSEconomy I can see that's a fair chunk of your cash.

I use my Commerce part of my budget as aid to other nations since there is not category for national aid to other nations. I can always pay my amount.
Feline Catfish
24-04-2005, 16:49
"You think 200 million can just be thrown away! Ha! I should also point out that we have no cities of over 1 million people. It doesn't matter who can "survive more". In MAD, no one survives. If you don't want to get nuked then just leave by country alone to go about its business in peace."

King George III
Feline Catfish
24-04-2005, 16:49
We shall send your ICBMS on cargo ships escorted by three Kirov class battlecruisers, eight sovremenny class destroyers, and four Victor III class submarines. They should arrive in 2 Ns months. Once the ships reach Feline Catfish waters, the escorts will turn back and it will be your responsibility to protect the cargo ships.

OOC. Link to my storefront: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=392334&highlight=miniferg
"Thankyou. Your commitment of weapons will never be forgotten."

Feline Catfish
Ankhmet
24-04-2005, 16:50
"We can easily find out where your capital is by getting some random tourist to go to your nation and buy an A to Z, or just getting a gov't official to look it up on the web. It isn't that hard. Also, as I stated we only need 1 to get through to seriously mangle your nation. I don't see why we're arguing this - invade us and get nuked, or shut up and stay neutral. I dont know why you have been threatening us for so long."

Royal Announcement

You have been making demands you cannot back up with actions. A bad idea when the commissar for war is plotting some expansion.
Zackaroth
24-04-2005, 16:51
You fool. If you should even launch the missle at Ankhmet you will find half the world on you and you would be destoryed in a matter of seconds. It would be wise to not pick a fight with older nations. If you decided to not heed my and the others warnings you We will unleash a horror worse the nuclear obletation. Instead of evaporating when the nuke strikes you will find your self in gagging for air as your bodyis invaded by nerve gas we have made to make sure the nation and its people suffer before they die.

From the archbishops of Zackaroth.
Ankhmet
24-04-2005, 16:52
"You think 200 million can just be thrown away! Ha! I should also point out that we have no cities of over 1 million people. It doesn't matter who can "survive more". In MAD, no one survives. If you don't want to get nuked then just leave by country alone to go about its business in peace."

King George III

We can take 500 million losses and stll survive as a nation.
Feline Catfish
24-04-2005, 16:53
"Older nations? The Feline Republic of Feline Catfish has existed in one form or another for 2,000 years. No 'Ankhmet' can destroy that! The Feline Republic shall never fall, and we will back that up with nuclear weaponary if Ankhmet attempts to pursue its openly and admittedly Imperialistic goals against us. The Republic shall NEVER fall!"

King George III
Space Union
24-04-2005, 16:55
You fool. If you should even launch the missle at Ankhmet you will find half the world on you and you would be destoryed in a matter of seconds. It would be wise to not pick a fight with older nations. If you decided to not heed my and the others warnings you We will unleash a horror worse the nuclear obletation. Instead of evaporating when the nuke strikes you will find your self in gagging for air as your bodyis invaded by nerve gas we have made to make sure the nation and its people suffer before they die.

From the archbishops of Zackaroth.

I don't think that will happen because Ankhmet is aggressing against Feline Catfish. He has a right to nuke Ankhmet if he is being invaded.
Malkyer
24-04-2005, 16:55
"You think 200 million can just be thrown away! Ha! I should also point out that we have no cities of over 1 million people. It doesn't matter who can "survive more". In MAD, no one survives. If you don't want to get nuked then just leave by country alone to go about its business in peace."

King George III

Did I say it could be thrown away? Of course not. You are missing the point, my little King. If you launch your nukes at Ankhmet, or any nation his size, he may survive to see the next sunrise. If he launched all of his nuclear weapons at you...there would be a brand-new, glow-in-the-dark parking lot for his use.

Emperor Dayan I

Secret Communique to Ankmet:
If this upstart nation attacks you, you have our full backing in any reprecussions they face.
Zackaroth
24-04-2005, 16:57
Your nuclear threats do not scare us in the least bit. If you countie this course of threating to nuke everyone that stands asgainst you We personally the nation of Zackaroth will do in our power to masscare your country until not even your buildings made of cheap paper and wood are left standing. Consider this your warning.

From the Archbishops of Zackaroth.
Space Union
24-04-2005, 16:58
Your nuclear threats do not scare us in the least bit. If you countie this course of threating to nuke everyone that stands asgainst you We personally the nation of Zackaroth will do in our power to masscare your country until not even your buildings made of cheap paper and wood are left standing. Consider this your warning.

From the Archbishops of Zackaroth.

Is that directed toward me?
Feline Catfish
24-04-2005, 17:00
And the state of Ankhmet has existed since the first dynasty of Egypt, 5,000 years ago. If you want a war, one on one, that's fine by me.
Statement to the International Community

Do you see, this Imperialist vermin has show its true skin! We have always wanted only peace through deterrant, and that is what we have always professed. These "people" have threatened us, worked actively against our interests and now they want, nay demand war! We shall not stand for, and I do not believe that the international community should either! If these barbarians attack our glorious empire they shall be wiped from the face of the planet!
Zackaroth
24-04-2005, 17:00
OOC: No. Your FT. I dont like inter-tech battles. When i decided to go FT then this will be directed towards you ;) Only kidding unless you do something bad to us.
Feline Catfish
24-04-2005, 17:02
Your nuclear threats do not scare us in the least bit. If you countie this course of threating to nuke everyone that stands asgainst you We personally the nation of Zackaroth will do in our power to masscare your country until not even your buildings made of cheap paper and wood are left standing. Consider this your warning.

From the Archbishops of Zackaroth.
"We do not fear your threats, as none of our buildings are made of cheap paper and wood. Therefore, you will destroy nothing! NOTHING!"

Random Beaurocrat
Ankhmet
24-04-2005, 17:03
Statement to the International Community

Do you see, this Imperialist vermin has show its true skin! We have always wanted only peace through deterrant, and that is what we have always professed. These "people" have threatened us, worked actively against our interests and now they want, nay demand war! We shall not stand for, and I do not believe that the international community should either! If these barbarians attack our glorious empire they shall be wiped from the face of the planet!

Bear in mind Ankhmet is a modern army (almost, some troops still use Nagant rifles), and has modern nuclear weapons. I wouldn't use them... But keep it in mind when you have your stratofortresses trying to drop freefall nukes.

In honour of your foolish nation we name you heka hyksos, chieftains of the shepherd kings. Or in modern English, king of the dimwits.
Feline Catfish
24-04-2005, 17:05
Bear in mind Ankhmet is a modern army (almost, some troops still use Nagant rifles), and has modern nuclear weapons. I wouldn't use them... But keep it in mind when you have your stratofortresses trying to drop freefall nukes.
"We have no stratofortresses, but modern, American-designed ICBMs built in Huzen Hagen and other nations. Do not threaten us, Egyptian, as nuclear weapons are the great strategic leveller, and we have no fear to level YOU in the name of preserving Feline Socialism."

King George III
Zackaroth
24-04-2005, 17:05
Oh We are terriblely sorry. We meant we destory you houses that you make from your own piles of crap!! Back down now and you will live to see your country live on to whatever it may go.

From the hIgh-leader of Zackaroth

Aimless von strangaild
No endorse
24-04-2005, 17:06
ooc: Ankhmet, don't be crushin newbies too badly. FC, don't get in a fight ya can't win. He could easily step on you.

And, FYI, when you nuke someone else, you're nukin yourself. Ever heard of wind? Fallout can go a long way, the US detected Chernobyl in Alaska. And Chernobyl is a butterfly's cough compared to the yeild we're talkin here.

Please read http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7733341 made by Lindim. She's right on. (Has anyone heard from her recently? She seems to have dissapeared...)

IC: The Military Junta of No Endorse (MT version) would like it to be known that the person who fires the first nuke in this conflict will own a very large section of the ceramics market when we're done with them. And, we have a few Sensory Deprivation chambers for those who ignore us and nuke anyway. Don't nuke, or you'll be able to cook steaks on the asphault outside your capital. Thank you.

Have a nice day, here's a lolly.
Feline Catfish
24-04-2005, 17:08
"It matters not what happens to us after we launch. Do you nations not understand MAD? We understand that we too will be destroyed, but every true Feline would rather die than be occupied by the Capitalist devils in Ankhmet. WE SHALL NEVER SUBMIT TO FOREIGN WILLS!"

King George III
Ankhmet
24-04-2005, 17:11
"It matters not what happens to us after we launch. Do you nations not understand MAD? We understand that we too will be destroyed, but every true Feline would rather die than be occupied by the Capitalist devils in Ankhmet. WE SHALL NEVER SUBMIT TO FOREIGN WILLS!"

King George III

Mmmm...Ironic. Ankhmet has been socialist for the past twenty years. You seem to have a King. Isn't the monarchy opposed to socialism, or rather socialism is opposed to the monarchy.
Space Union
24-04-2005, 17:11
"It matters not what happens to us after we launch. Do you nations not understand MAD? We understand that we too will be destroyed, but every true Feline would rather die than be occupied by the Capitalist devils in Ankhmet. WE SHALL NEVER SUBMIT TO FOREIGN WILLS!"

King George III

Actually Ankhmet is communist/socialist.
Zackaroth
24-04-2005, 17:11
Ankhmet has Zackaroths full swupport if it comes to war. FC we cannot say this enough but back down!!. You will stand no chance if you attack anyone. Back down or die

FRom the Archbishops of zackaroth.
Strathdonia
24-04-2005, 17:13
FC there are nukes then there are nukes... (i wonder if the gigaton nuke thread is still around)
You really should of taken our offer, then you would have been sapred thsi hassle, of course it woudl also have helped if jolt would let me log in with my open Rp mega nation...





The thing is the nukes you ahve aquired aren't brilliant by any means and have some sevre restrictions on their use (IIRC it was all silo based stuff which is a double edged sword...)
Space Union
24-04-2005, 17:15
Ankhmet I don't think you have the power to wage any more wars as you are already bogged down in Thomasien.
Feline Catfish
24-04-2005, 17:16
"We thankyou for your help, Strathdonia (/ your bigger nation) and if the offer is still open we will take it in the face of such wanton aggression, but currently, under threat from capitalists, Christian fanatics and sheer lunatics who don't understand MAD, we have no choice but to continue the construction and purchasing of nuclear weapons in order to ensure our survival."

Foreign Minister of Feline Catfish
Ankhmet
24-04-2005, 17:21
Ankhmet I don't think you have the power to wage any more wars as you are already bogged down in Thomasien.

I said before in the thread, that one's dead. Too much bickering. I guess we can write that off. No losses for Thomasien, no gains for Ankhmet. Overall a net victory for you.
Ankhmet
24-04-2005, 17:26
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=414555
Malkyer
24-04-2005, 17:30
"We thankyou for your help, Strathdonia (/ your bigger nation) and if the offer is still open we will take it in the face of such wanton aggression, but currently, under threat from capitalists, Christian fanatics and sheer lunatics who don't understand MAD, we have no choice but to continue the construction and purchasing of nuclear weapons in order to ensure our survival."

Foreign Minister of Feline Catfish

No, my friend, it is you who does not understand the doctrine of MAD. You cannot destroy us. Hurt us, yes; destroy us, no. We can destroy you. Therefore, it is not "Mutual."

You claim to fight in the defense of socialism, yet you have a monarch? Must I point out the inherent contradicitons of you system. You are neither socialist like Ankhmet nor monarchist like Malkyer.

You do not have the resources to construct nuclear missiles, and I am indeed surprised you were able to purchase as many as you did. In fact, if we can drag this arguemtn out just a little longer, we will all be able ot laugh as your economy implodes and you nation destroys itself.

Good day, sir.
Feline Catfish
24-04-2005, 17:33
"Our nuclear weapons were largely gifts, or sold off cheap. Regardless, we have almost 300 - enough to destroy even you, I daresay? Or at least deal a blow from which you will never fully recover. If you feel like losing your capital, most of your production and your entire navy (and thereby any ability at forece projection you may have) then feel free to attack me for simply minding my own business."

Foreign Minister of the Felines.
Makaar
24-04-2005, 17:34
Makaar cannot allow such a small nation to gain control of nuclear weapons. Such an act would pose a shift of power which the Assembly is not prepared to allow. Therefore, the Makaar government has voted 640-5-0 to issue the following ultimatum to Feline Catfish:

You will surrender any research and WMDs you have for destruction.
You will abandon any attempts at researching nuclear weapons until such a time as we see fit.

If you are concerned about your own defence, Makaar would be happy to provide military aid, and our economy is sufficient enough to provide you with economic aid as well. However, we operate an international policy that forces us to impose the above ultimatum.

We must warn you that refusal to comply with our ultimatum will damage your relations with us. We must also warn you that our military is slightly larger in size than your entire population - our military is 1% of our population (making it about 8.5 million people at the moment). So if you want defence, you can have it...but if you refuse to accept our ultimatum, we will turn it against you.
Feline Catfish
24-04-2005, 17:39
OOC:
FC, a few posts ago, you had fifty, a number I was willing to accept. Now, you have three hundred? Without even an attempt at RPing acquiring them?

IGNORED
If you actually read the thread, and add up how many I was given, you'd find I was given approximately 286.
Feline Catfish
24-04-2005, 17:40
Makaar cannot allow such a small nation to gain control of nuclear weapons. Such an act would pose a shift of power which the Assembly is not prepared to allow. Therefore, the Makaar government has voted 640-5-0 to issue the following ultimatum to Feline Catfish:

You will surrender any research and WMDs you have for destruction.
You will abandon any attempts at researching nuclear weapons until such a time as we see fit.

If you are concerned about your own defence, Makaar would be happy to provide military aid, and our economy is sufficient enough to provide you with economic aid as well. However, we operate an international policy that forces us to impose the above ultimatum.

We must warn you that refusal to comply with our ultimatum will damage your relations with us. We must also warn you that our military is slightly larger in size than your entire population - our military is 1% of our population (making it about 8.5 million people at the moment). So if you want defence, you can have it...but if you refuse to accept our ultimatum, we will turn it against you.

"We refuse to accept your ultimatum. Any landing will be met with a full strategic launch against your nation. Putting it simply, we have only ever threatened to fire in the event of invasion. Why, pray tell, if this so unacceptable to you all? I honestly do not understand. Nevertheless, I am prepared to fire if necessary."

King George III, President Rotherham
North East Somerset
24-04-2005, 17:43
North east Somerset alone has sold 236 1 MT nuclear missiles from our reserves. They will arrive with their escort in about 2 hours (RL). If FC wishes they will send the escort in to defend the transfer right up to the coast and possibly stay for a while afterwards.
Malkyer
24-04-2005, 17:44
If you actually read the thread, and add up how many I was given, you'd find I was given approximately 286.

OOC: If you had actually read the thread, you would know that the vast majority of your nukes are in transit, as in, they haven't arrived yet, meaning you don't possess them.

I admit my mistake, and will withdraw my ignore. Let's stop this bickering and RP properly, eh?
Feline Catfish
24-04-2005, 17:46
OOC: If you had actually read the thread, you would know that the vast majority of your nukes are in transit, as in, they haven't arrived yet, meaning you don't possess them.

I admit my mistake, and will withdraw my ignore. Let's stop this bickering and RP properly, eh?
Regardless, they will arrive before anyone can assemble an invasion fleet, unless they godmod a massive buildup of forces in a day or something stupid. I agree with the second bit.
Dracun imperium
24-04-2005, 17:47
Emperor Bane the XXXV, laughed like he was high because he thought this was downright hilarious.

To the "Nuclear Power" of Feline Catfish"
You’re pathetic and poor excuse for a nation that shall be squashed within twenty-four hours if you do not surrender all nuclear weapons by that time. Do you realize you are threatening when you cannot launch them? Where are the Silos hmm? I would think it would take quite a few weeks just to build a few and to build enough to wipe out Malkyer Ankhmet or me for that matter would not only implode your economy you would not get farther then ten.

You have Twenty-Four house Feline Catfish, death is upon you

Emperor Bane The XXXV
Dread Lord of the Dracun Imperium
Bringer of Discord and Chaos

http://www.sith.pl/bots/sith/slynni_lordowie/pliki/darthsion0.jpg
The Parthians
24-04-2005, 17:48
Parthia, seeing this small nation being threatened by larger, more powerful ones, has decided more help is necessary. Cease attacking those who wish to defend themselves.

Secret IC:

To the Feline Catfish Government:

I see you have a need for some larger weapons, I am prepared to donate five neutron bombs and tactical theater ballistic missiles for use against invaders. These are very effective weapons against fleets. In addition, I will also give you ten 5MT warheads and eleven ICBMs. I hope this helps.

-Shah Khosru III
North East Somerset
24-04-2005, 17:54
The 236 1MT nuclear weapons we sent come with 236 Mobile Railway Launch Systems as we previously posted. This means there will be no need for silos, if FC wishes though they can locate the trains in mountain/tunnels until they need to fire them.

NES Nuclear Authorities
Feline Catfish
24-04-2005, 17:55
"Dracun Imperium, these weapons are not launched from silos but from railway carriages. They are quite cheap, easy to assemble and ready to fire at any moment. I honestly do not understand why you "super powers" constantly persecute my little nation. We have categorically stated that we will only fire if threatened with invasion, and since invasion if looking more and more likely, we will not give up our only line of defence. My Minister of Defence would have used stronger language, but I think it's vulgar and unnecessary for nations which are, after all, not entirely consistent."

King George III

"We thank The Parthians for your great help. It will never be forgotten. We ask that you fly in the weapons on large carrier planes in order to cut down on transport time."

Encrypted Transmission from the MoD
Makaar
24-04-2005, 18:00
Makaarian warships are diverted to the area to blockade the path of the missile carriers. They will intercept in 1 hour 12 minutes (RL), on the border of FC-controlled waters.

The fleet scheduled to arrive and intercept the shipment contains the following:

1 x Nimitx-class aircraft carrier, loaded with 80 F-16s, 1 Sea King helicopter and 120 Marines

2 x Ticonderoga-class missile carriers, loaded with 12 ship-to-ship missiles each

4 x Ocean-class helicopter carriers, loaded with 15 Sea King helicopters and 5 Apache helicopters each

An undisclosed number of stealth submarines with classified armaments

These ships were in a combat training mission and returning home. We also have your convoy's position on a number of intelligence satellites, which we will turn to watch your facility construction efforts.

The Makaarian captains on board those vessels have been warned not to fire the first shots, and will not do so. However, if attacked, we will retaliate with force enough to destroy your fleet and the missiles with it. You will relinquish the missiles to us. It is of utmost importance to the Assembly that those missiles do not reach their destination, and the ships have been instructed to use any means necessary to secure that objective, and the ships and their crew have been declared expendable to stop the missiles.

We understand that you are only going to be using nuclear weapons for your own defence, but we cannot rely on that. You could use the missiles to intimidate much larger nations, and this represents a shift in the balance of power that is so delicately preserved on this world.
Feline Catfish
24-04-2005, 18:03
ooc: The missiles left a while ago, and it takes time to assemble a fleet and move it. Needless to say, the missiles got there before you. Now, can you post all posts relating to the blockade on the blockade thread, which is on the front page of International Incidents.
Dracun imperium
24-04-2005, 18:03
Message to Feline Catfish
Our mobilization has already begun, and if you so dare launch a single nuclear warhead your country shall not exist to see another day. You now have 23 1/2 hours. Your attempts at persuading me to stop "persecuting" you have no effect.

Emperor Bane The XXXV
Dread Lord of the Dracun Imperium
Bringer of Discord and Chaos

http://www.sith.pl/bots/sith/slynni_lordowie/pliki/darthsion0.jpg


The message was true to the bone, as thousands of troops were being mobilized. Ships were already beginning to dock, while the larger fleets were called back from various practice exercises. The Dracun Slayers (marines) and The Dracun Elite will be the only force deployed along with their weapons of war. The expected mobilization would come to a grand total of 150,000 including support personnel, tank crews, and so on. Feline Catfish would not seem the light of another day if it failed to comply.
Feline Catfish
24-04-2005, 18:05
"My decision is final. You come to Feline, and you leave a slab of floating glass. We have no quarrel with you, but we shall not bow to wanton and unprovoked aggression."

King George III

ooc: Errmm... no. It takes time to assemble a large force of people, and a long time to move it. It took a few months for British forces to reach the Falklands in the Falklands War. We have plenty of time, not 23 and a half hours.
Malkyer
24-04-2005, 18:07
OOC: Dracun could have begun mobilizing forces earlier, though that might be a bit of a stretch...airborne forces could reach you in a matter of hours...or Dracun, being the insane trigger-happy person he is, could just nuke you right of the bat. I've seen him do it. To himself. :D
Feline Catfish
24-04-2005, 18:08
OOC: Dracun could have begun mobilizing forces earlier, though that might be a bit of a stretch...airborne forces could reach you in a matter of hours...or Dracun, being the insane trigger-happy person he is, could just nuke you right of the bat. I've seen him do it. To himself. :D
ooc: Yes he could but if he hasn't RPed doing that then he hasnt. Airborne forces could reach me, yes.
Dracun imperium
24-04-2005, 18:12
OOC: You have twenty-Four hours before I declare war, not the time you will be invaded. And yes I have nuked myself in my past Dracun Histories (I restarted my history) so don't think I won’t nuke you if this gets irritating to Emperor Bane.

IC: Message to the Egotistical Nation of Feline Catfish,
Silence yourself! If you want to play who has a larger arsenal then by all means let us play! I will simply give the order and your country will be gone within an hour. Do not mess with a person such as myself, I have proven to be quite, brutal no brutal is too kind of a word.
Emperor Bane The XXXV


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Makaar
24-04-2005, 18:13
ooc: The missiles left a while ago, and it takes time to assemble a fleet and move it. Needless to say, the missiles got there before you. Now, can you post all posts relating to the blockade on the blockade thread, which is on the front page of International Incidents.

OOC: Sorry, but it said in one of the posts that the missiles would take 2 hours RL to get to your nation, and I posted my message 4 minutes after that.
North East Somerset
24-04-2005, 18:17
The NES naval escort will arrive with the missiles in about 1 hour RL. The Makkaran fleet will be wiped out of the seas, if it attempts to stop us from landing with 236MT of nukes.
The Parthians
24-04-2005, 18:19
The planes are about an hour away, allow them to land wherever you feel so inclined.

-Shah Khosru III
Feline Catfish
24-04-2005, 18:22
OOC: Sorry, but it said in one of the posts that the missiles would take 2 hours RL to get to your nation, and I posted my message 4 minutes after that.
ooc: I think that just saying you're close enough to intercept after deliberately waiting for a time to be specified so you could specify a lower time is very bad form, but ok then. I'll accept it.

ic: The Feline submarine cut stealthily through the sea, far beneath the waves. It was very close to the enemy fleet now, but luckily far enough away not to be detected at its depth. Out of torpedo range, it was, but not out of cruise missile range. Feline Catfish's only cruise-missile equipped submarine, the HMS Warrior was deadly indeed.

"Sir, we're in missile range. 200km from target."

"Very good, Lieutenant. You may fire when ready. I want four missiles on the carrier one each on the cruisers and two on each of the helicopter carriers. That leaves us with 8 missiles left to cover our escape."

"Very good, sir."

"Calculate a firing solution. I want the Yakhonts ready to fire at a moments notice."

ooc: These are Yakhont missiles: http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NAVY/Yakhont.html in the real life Russian navy.
Feline Catfish
24-04-2005, 18:22
The planes are about an hour away, allow them to land wherever you feel so inclined.

-Shah Khosru III
"They will be allowed to land as soon as they reach Feline Catfish. We thank you for your support."

King George III
North East Somerset
24-04-2005, 18:27
I'd like to remind everyone of the NES escort fleets capabilities:

"They are being transported in 42 Auxiliary Fleet vessels escorted by 61 'Atlanta Class' Frigates, 23 'Pacifica Class' Destroyers, 3 'Arctica Class' Cruisers, 5-15 'Fisher Class' Patrol Submarines, 5-15 'Whaler' Class Attack Submarines, 22 'International Class' Patrol ships, 4 'Legionary Class' Minesweepers and 78 'Superior' Class Corvettes".

OOC: They are arriving in less than 1 hour RL.
Dracun imperium
24-04-2005, 18:29
ooc:Woah woah woah, what applies to us applies to you NES, you would need to mobilize that fleet before anything.
Hogsweat
24-04-2005, 18:29
ATTENTION FASCIST INVADERS

We hereby demand that the fascist bloodsucking nations of Zackaroth and Ankhmet and their leecher allies remove their blockade from the nation of Feline Catfish or we will remove it ourselves. We are not afraid to displace your ships, by force if neccessary, so that the people of Feline Catfish will suffer no longer from your imperialistic money making schemes. it is the right of a sovereign nation to hold nuclear power in both offensive and power plant capacities.

Two Hogsweatian Task Forces and a Battle Force are already, although attempting to be secret about it, gearing up to leave port and assist the nation of Feline Catfish in all ways possible.

Dorsalgrad Airport
Crates and crates of food and medical supplies were loaded onto C5 Galaxies and Boeing 747's as the aircraft took off over dark blue rainy night skies on a path to give supplies to the blockaded nation of Feline Catfish before the blockade could be moved. One a single C5m there were a row of crates literally filled to the brim with money supplies that in total reached approximately 150 billion united states dollars for money lend lease to the nation of Feline Catfish.

Dorsalgrad Airbase
The C5 Galaxy's engines hummed rather loudly and eagerly as they prepared to take off, which they would soon do, after the Lend Lease vehicles and weapons were loaded on. In total 60 auxiliary T54's, 60 auxiliary BMP3's and 60 auxiliary BTR50ps were airlifted while weapons valuers piled up heaps and heaps of AK47's and Mosin Nagant rifles to be transported later to Catfish. Veteran pilots took off in their Tornado GDV's and Eurofighters, and began to fly to Feline Catfish to reinforce the Hogsweatian ally's airforce. Approximately thirty five of the aircraft with some of the best pilots in the Hogsweatian Air Force were leaving the country to assist Feline Catfish.

Forces Sent To Assist FC
15 Tornado GDV's
20 Eurofighters
A Hogsweatian Task Force: [there are two about to be en route]
3x Invincible Class SuperCarriers | SCVN
1x Attacker Escort Carrier | CVE
1x Unity Class Superdreadnaught | SD
1x Hood Class Battleship | BCGN
7x Cossack Class Arsenal Ship | CGN
24x Type 62 AAW Purpose | DDGN
23x Type 62 ASW Purpose | DDGN
18x Astute Class Fleet Submarine | SSN
4x Vanguard Class Ballistic Submarine | SSBN
10x Union Class Replenishment Ships | AOE
A Hogsweatian Battle Force [ only one ]
1x Invincible Class SuperCarriers | SCVN
2x Attacker Escort Carrier | CVE
1x Unity Class SuperDreadnaught | SD
5x Hood Class battleship | BCGN
10x Cossack Class Arsenal Ship | CGN
18x Type 62 AAW Purpose | DDGN
18x Type 62 ASW Purpose | DDGN
18x Type 62 Dual Purpose | DDGN
22x Astute Class Fleet Submarine | SSN
4x Vanguard Class Ballistic Submarine | SSBN
12x Union Class Replenishment Ships | AOE
Auxiliary Equipment Being Airlifted to FC
60 T54's
60 BMP3's
60 BTR50Ps
40,000 AK47's
40,000 Mosin Nagant Rifles
150 Billion Dollars in Cash being sent to FC
North East Somerset
24-04-2005, 18:30
OOC: We did, it was the 27th post!
Feline Catfish
24-04-2005, 18:31
ooc:Woah woah woah, what applies to us applies to you NES, you would need to mobilize that fleet before anything.
ooc; He did actually post an escorting fleet.
Hogsweat
24-04-2005, 18:32
OOC - NES i'm not sure, who are you defending? And yes on post 27 on page 2 he mobilised it.
Dracun imperium
24-04-2005, 18:34
OOC:Oh my bad, I just thought all of that was simple talking so I skipped to the important part, *learns lesson* Again my apologies.

Working for a response on hogsweat's mobilization
North East Somerset
24-04-2005, 18:34
OOC: Im escorting 236 1MT missiles which FC bought from me. When the fleet arrives I will keep it there to defend FC until your military arrives.
Neoma
24-04-2005, 18:35
It was very close to the enemy fleet now, but luckily far enough away not to be detected at its depth. .

OOC godmod anyone dude the sonar and stuff on a up to date ship is able to see you.....if your out of radar range but are so "close" i think you under your crush depth
Feline Catfish
24-04-2005, 18:36
OOC godmod anyone dude the sonar and stuff on a up to date ship is able to see you.....if your out of radar range but are so "close" i think you under your crush depth
ooc: I said I'm 200km away in the post. You must have pretty amazing sonar to detect ANYTHING at that range.
North East Somerset
24-04-2005, 18:37
OOC: The NES fleet will arrive in 1/2 hour RL to defend FC and deliver the Nuclear Missiles. If Makaar's ships fire at us or come to close we will open fire.
Dracun imperium
24-04-2005, 18:38
Bane recieved the message from Hogsweat and sighed, Figures, just when I was about to have my fun.

Message to the Nation of Hogsweat,
Do you not understand the danger in which this nation can create? He can go on a killing spree. This can simply not continue, we continue our stance and our mobilization continues.
Emperor Bane The XXXV
Dread Lord of the Dracun Imperium
Bringer of Discord and Chaos

http://www.sith.pl/bots/sith/slynni_lordowie/pliki/darthsion0.jpg



OOC:My invasion fleet, when fully mobilized will consist of the following. Still working on my military numbers.
30 Lancer Class Destroyers
20Apex Destroyers
20 Sea Squid Submarines
100 pb-88 Attack boats
10 Ultra Battle Carriers
20 Phoenix Carriers
20 Xero Class Missile Cruisers
30 Volcano Arsenal Ships
30 Iowa Class Battleships
North East Somerset
24-04-2005, 18:41
OOC: Any nation with nukes poses a threat to all others, FC should be allowed to keep its nukes, whats all this fuss about.
Neoma
24-04-2005, 18:47
ooc: I said I'm 200km away in the post. You must have pretty amazing sonar to detect ANYTHING at that range.

OOC well you need that information dude..
Hogsweat
24-04-2005, 18:48
We SERIOUSLY suggest Dracun Imperium does not mobilise it's fleets. We will not hesitate to wipe them from the face of the earth if dare move to attack Feline Catfish
Feline Catfish
24-04-2005, 18:49
OOC well you need that information dude..
ooc: What information? You actually told me where you were...
Kroblexskij
24-04-2005, 18:52
this is rather ending up like the Cuban missile crisis, where kennedy ordered the disarmament of nuclear cuba, but when he had missiles that could take out the world several times over.
Neoma
24-04-2005, 18:53
----orbital platform Mightor----

"okay people i want a firring solution on that nuke as soon as it leaves the tube... I'm authorizing a FULL power blast as soon as it crosses the land/sea border..."

"SIR!"

The Mightor platform came online---


System check comensing
1.Power....check
2.Quazr cells... 75%
3.structural integrity... good
4.Personell....good


The alarm klaxon hooted as the platform began to put power into the barrel the began to glow as the power was heating the metals...

"Sir we will be ready to fire as soon as it comes out of the tube"

OOC: The Mightor platform is like the Zeus thing in the movie Final Fantasy the spirits within also this will only be used for nukes, they will destroy the nuke and cause some damage to other ships on the vicinity....
Neoma
24-04-2005, 18:55
ooc: What information? You actually told me where you were...

the 200km away... you need that information to give us an idea to where you were i thought you were under the fleet.. also i removed my fleet in the other post you did about this
Guffingford
24-04-2005, 18:57
Official Declaration

"My good, loyal citizens. Today we witness lunacy at its finest. A nation called Ankhmet has decided to ignore the laws of national sovereignity and to disarm the nation of Feline Catfish personally. We have always stood up for nations who made the (wise) decision of producing nuclear arms. The Allied States of Guffingford will deploy all forces necessary to prevent warmongers from taking what they want unopposed. To save the world from intellectual and moral decay!

I also like to take the oppertunity to warn especially Ankhmet not to annoy us. You are treading on very thin ice you know."

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/fruityloops/johann.jpg
- Johann Gleighmont, Chancellor of the Allied States of Guffingford
Praetonia
24-04-2005, 18:58
[OOC: This allies in this thread too: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8742879&postcount=35]
Dracun imperium
24-04-2005, 19:08
OOC: Just dandy...Praetonia *bends over for a naval whipping* lol :P

IC: Message to Praetonia,
Through some careful consideration I do understand where you are coming from. However, he already says that he will nuke anyone who comes near him, what if he is to invade someone with weapons of mass destruction, or simply invade. (Though I am quite the brutal one myself) However as older nations we must make sure he grows responsible with these nuclear warheads. Do you not agree? If he had simply allowed the disarmament of half his arsenal we could care less, because it would prove he is responsible but yet he simply responded with "I will glass your nation" or something to that effect. Is that someone you want with a nuclear warhead?

Emperor Bane The XXXV
Dread Lord of the Dracun Imperium
Bringer of Discord and Chaos

http://www.sith.pl/bots/sith/slynni_lordowie/pliki/darthsion0.jpg
Hogsweat
24-04-2005, 19:10
OOC-
Nations Standing Against the Blockade
North East Somerset
The Island of Rose
Hogsweat
Dumpsterdam
Guffingford
Praetonia
Omz222


Mmm.... Dracun Imperium I seriously suggest you stand down.
North East Somerset
24-04-2005, 19:10
OOC: The NES fleet has arrived in FC waters recently, we will dock when permission is given from FC.
Hogsweat
24-04-2005, 19:16
Last Chance Ultimatum to DI
You will WITHDRAW your threats NOW or we will be forced to take pre emptive action to defend the people of Feline Catfish. We do not want to harm DI or its assets but we will have to if you continue to travel along this course of action.
North East Somerset
24-04-2005, 19:19
IC:

Admiral(to all ships): Move the ships into defensive formations; cruisers, destroyers and frigates at the outside and the Auxiliary Fleets in the middle. Send the Patrol Ships and Corvettes towards the docks, we need permission from FC to land.

Cruiser(HMV Mendip): Enemy ships sighted portside sir. Makaar navy I believe.

Admiral: Damn it! We need permission to enter the docks, send 30 frigates and 10 destroyers over to investigate the enemy ships.
Dracun imperium
24-04-2005, 19:20
Message to Hogsweat
You shall not dare threaten me or my people! I will do whatever I feel like doing! To think I wanted a diplomatic solution to this. If you dare threaten us again may the Imperial Gods have mercy on your soul! Now leave me to my meditations to decide on what is best for the world

Emperor Bane The XXXV
Dread Lord of the Dracun Imperium
Bringer of Discord and Chaos

http://www.sith.pl/bots/sith/slynni_lordowie/pliki/darthsion0.jpg
North East Somerset
24-04-2005, 19:23
To Dracun Imperial:
From: NES

We advise you to stand down. You are outnumbered. You are the ones taking un-diplomatic action not us.
Dracun imperium
24-04-2005, 19:28
Message to Feline Catfish,
If you stop with your reckless threatening with the use of nuclear weapons we will stand by you. However, if you continue to threaten people with the use of Nuclear weapons we will continue our stance. So we advise that you stop your irresponsible actions and began to act like a real nuclear power.

Emperor Bane The XXXV
Dread Lord of the Dracun Imperium
Bringer of Discord and Chaos

http://www.sith.pl/bots/sith/slynni_lordowie/pliki/darthsion0.jpg
Hogsweat
24-04-2005, 19:34
The ARGONAUT-IX had almost completed it's movement scan of where Dracun Imperium was located, when it had orders to reverse and go back. Almost immediately the satellite responded to the orders given, taking high quality images and patching them back to a random "fishing trawler" which patched them through several secure signals and eventually the Bomber Command Station 18 received the signals and told it's pilots to be ready. The MINOTAUR-XI,XII, and XIII were on station in the area, luckily, and the combat satellites began to change their course to bear down on Dracun Imperium. The space based weapons would soon hit with deadly efficiency to bring the enemies capital to rubble.

Several minutes later sixteen B1H bombers were in the air and climbing rapidly to their maximum altitude while accelerating in speed. The bomber pilots knew they were on an important mission and they would NOT mess up.

The satellites meanwhile had a target, and the revolver like end of MINOTAUR-XI began to unfold to reveal a score of deadly high yield missiles. These missiles were not ordinary missiles - they were in fact a huge piece of metal shaped much like a missile, with built in countermeasures in case of an ABM defense grid and rows of mini missiles with 2500 kg charges. Each SBGAM [space based ground attack missile] had twelve of the missiles with the 2500 charge in. Some of the missiles were loaded with napalm charges. The napalm missiles were seperated from the group and were aimed at civilian targets such as housing flats and suburbs. The SBGAMs were aimed at airbases government buildings and such. No hospitals or schools were aimed at.

The missiles fired from MINOTAUR-XI. There was no flash, or burn, not like below the Ozone Layer. Just a whoosh and a deadly metallic click.

The bombers meanwhile were crossing the ocean to DI.
Stevid
24-04-2005, 19:35
ooc: Sorry if this post is a bit late but i'll get to the point.

ic: The nation of Stevid opposes the nation of FC and is concerned about it's policies on WMD's. It concerns Stevid that you feel the need to "throw your weight about" with nuclear weapons.

We stand by Dracun imperium and any other nation opposed to FC.

To all those concern there is a vote being cast upon this subject.
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=414594
Praetonia
24-04-2005, 19:35
[I]Message to Praetonia,
Through some careful consideration I do understand where you are coming from. However, he already says that he will nuke anyone who comes near him, what if he is to invade someone with weapons of mass destruction, or simply invade. (Though I am quite the brutal one myself) However as older nations we must make sure he grows responsible with these nuclear warheads. Do you not agree? If he had simply allowed the disarmament of half his arsenal we could care less, because it would prove he is responsible but yet he simply responded with "I will glass your nation" or something to that effect. Is that someone you want with a nuclear warhead?
To: Emperor Bane The XXXV
Dread Lord of the Dracun Imperium
From: Tiberius Polax, MP
Foreign Secretary
Subject: RE: Feline Catfish

Whilst your views are understood and duly noted, we will not rescind our offer of help to a nation whose sovereignty is being violated. Dracun Imperium may continue to take offensive action against Feline Catfish, but I assure you that every ship that faces an Imperial Praetonian vessel and fails to turn back or surrender will be sunk.

I do so hope, however, that you will see reason and agree to withdraw your threats against Feline Catfish. Up until now, every single threat of detonating a nuclear device made by Feline Catfish has come with the added caveat of in the event of an invasion, or other such act which will seriously damage or destroy the state or people of Feline Catfish.

Your Sincerely,

Tiberius Polax, MP
Foreign Secretary
Miniferg
24-04-2005, 19:37
We demand that all nations remove their blockades from FC waters at once. We will not hesitate to take action against these injustices to the Feline Catfish people.

---Just outside FC waters---

The Miniferg convoy of ships carrying 20 SS-9 ICBMs, along with their escorts, 3 Kirov class battlecruisers, eight sovremenny class destroyers, and 4 victor 3 class submarines hovered just outside of FC waters.

---Aboard Kirov class MSS Dauntless---

"Sir, ships sighted, I believe it's the Makaar Navy. They're blocking our way into the Feline Catfish ports." The convoy slowed down to a halt. "Send a message to those ships, demand that they move." said the admiral in charge of the fleet. "Yes sir."
North East Somerset
24-04-2005, 19:38
IC:

Admiral: Enter the docks anyway! We cant wait out here with nuclear weapons any longer. And send some subs to look at Makaars fleet.

Cruiser (HMV Mendip): Yes sir. They are coming closer what shall we do.

Admiral: Open fire if they come closer than 50km. It will be a brief battle they cannot possibly win.
North East Somerset
24-04-2005, 19:41
Cruiser (HMV Mendip): Sir, we have just sighted the Miniferg navy. They are going in the same direction as us: towards the Makaaran ships.

Admiral: Prepare to fire at the Makaraan ships, load the guns.
North East Somerset
24-04-2005, 19:47
ADMIRAL REPORT ON THE SITUATION

Our Auxiliary Fleet and its escorts have docked in FC. FC is now taking delivery of the nuclear weaponry, they are being loaded onto trains and taken to a nearby tunnel where they can wait safely.

The other parts of our fleet made up of 34 frigates, 12 destroyers, 2 cruisers and 20-30 submarines is moving closer to the Makaraan navy at a very slow pace (5 Knots). Over 100 Helicopters from the ships have taken to the skies or are on standby. We are preparing to fire unless the Makaraan navy stops immediately.
Makaar
24-04-2005, 19:55
OOC: Makaar has ships EVERYWHERE!!! Actually, that is bad form, but 1 hour 12 minutes away is a long time away. It is perfectly possible for our ships to be that distance away.

IC:

On the bridge of the Nimitz-class aircraft carrier, the HMMS Merchantman, Captain Ryan Hodges moves towards a radar screen. The Midshipman there gives him a report.

"Sir," he begins, "We have the position of the FC vessels. There's a heavy escort."

The captain nodded. "Understood. Bring all stations to tactical alert. Bring missile defences online and ready the lifeboats. Open a channel to the FC ships."

As he did so, the captain spoke. "Feline Catfish vessels, this is the Makaarian 6th Fleet. We cannot allow your cargo to reach its destination. Please power down your engines and prepare to be boarded. There's no reason this has to end in international war."

He motioned to cut the channel and waited for the reply.
Feline Catfish
24-04-2005, 19:58
The submarine slunk quietly and unnoticed towards their prey. Still more than 150km away, they were all but indetectable to the enemy fleet. Their weapons were still locked - four to the carrier, two to the helicopter carriers. A signal beamed towards the Makaaran fleet from the Feline mainland.

"You will turn about and leave Feline Catfish forever. You were not invited here, and you should not have come. You will leave now, or you will be destroyed."
North East Somerset
24-04-2005, 19:58
Admiral to Makaraan Navy:

We are NES naval vessels not FC vessels. Our cargo has already docked at FC docks. What you are facing now is part of our navy sent to examine your navy. We will attack you now if you do not leave FC territories.
North East Somerset
24-04-2005, 20:02
Admiral to Makaraan Navy:

Pull back now or we will open fire.
Makaar
24-04-2005, 20:08
The Admiral recieved a message from the Assembly:

"STALL FOR TIME. REINFORCEMENTS ARE BEING SENT. DO WHAT YOU CAN TO AVOID WAR. MAKAAR IS COUNTING ON YOUR HANDLING OF THE SITUATION. GOD SAVE THE KING."

He transmitted a further message:

"NES vessels, this is the Makaarian fleet. We do not want to start a conflict here. We are coming to a full stop to avoid collision. This is not FC waters, we are in international waters, and we are only interested in making sure Makaar is not threatened here. We will not fire the first shots. I repeat, we will not fire the first shots. However, we cannot allow such a small nation to gain control of a nuclear arsenal. Please power down your engines as we are. We must also warn you of a hidden fleet of submarines below us, and any attack on us will undoubtedly mean war between our two nations."

He then transmitted another message, this time to Feline Catfish.

"We are not in Feline Catfish waters, we are in international waters, and therefore any act against us will make you the agressors. We are not prepared to war against such a small nation, but will do so if necessary to secure international security."
North East Somerset
24-04-2005, 20:14
Admiral to Makaraan Navy:

Most of our vessels are in or around the docks in FC.

Some of our vessels are in International Waters near your fleet: 34 frigates, 12 destroyers, 2 cruisers and 20-30 submarines. They have been stopped.
Miniferg is also backing us up.
Red Tide2
24-04-2005, 20:16
OOC:OH BOY! WAR STTIRRING TIME!

IC:Several Patrol Torepedo Boats flying the Feline Catfish flag sailed at high speeds toward the Makaar Naval Vessels.

The funny thing was they were approaching from OUTSIDE the blockade line. In actuality, these PT Boats were really owned by the Heart of Armaggeddon(Sometimes Known As the Red Tide Mafia). They had a particuakr interest in this conflict. Considering that it was a potential profit ground, and they liked stirring up trouble anyways.
Feline Catfish
24-04-2005, 20:18
ENCRYPTED MESSAGE FROM FELINE CATFISH HIGH COMMAND

"Somersettian fleet, do you wish us to open fire?"
Dostanuot Loj
24-04-2005, 20:20
OOC: So I'm late for all the fun, meh.

IC:
Official Response:
Feline Catfish, I have noticed your nation do but two things when stating your intentions for nuclear weapons. You blatantly threaten the use of these weapons, and for that matter, state that you WILL use these weapons after you have aqquired them. You have threatened any number of nations, many of them capable of squashing your small country like a mouse beneath a tank's tread. What I have noticed furthermore, is that you take the mose aggressive stance possible for nuclear deterrance, which is not onlt unneeded, but a detriment to your postsion.
On the other hand, you continue to insist these weapons will be used as a deterrant, while still declarin your intentions to use them. I can not make up my mind wether you are a threat and should be delt with accordingly, or bluffing and should be ignored.
Indeed, you have nuclear capability now as I say this, but your nuclear capability is nowhere near what my nation is capable of. Furthermore, your nuclear capability is all stratigic, whereas my nation has just enough stratigic capability to remove you from the planet three or four times over, and enough tacical capability to devestate any military force you would push against us.
Do not take this as a threat of invasion though, for I am merely explaining things in a comparasin you can understand. We have no wish to go to war with you unless you push it uppon us, and if that case happens, we will respond as required.

Instead of conflict, I would like to offer you an arrangment. I would be more then happy conducting trade relations with your nation, perhaps even an alliance of some sorts, but only if you tone down your aggressive stance.
We find it unaccecptable to have allies who flaunt their nuclear capability around, and their desire to use it at a moments notice, with such aggressive leadership. When,in our own experiance, keeping such a weapon system as a last resort, and not flaunting it, but not denying it either, is best. Many nations, I'm sure, are unaware of our nuclear aresenol, or aware that we have one at all. This has been much the benifit to my nation as in our ten thousand year history war has not come to our lands because of our foreign policy, or our stance on military deterrance.
I sincerely hope you will heed my words, and consider my offer, for I forsee only destruction on the path you are choosing to take, and that is an outcome I would not like to see.

- Head of State,
Feild Marshal Peshtur Namtar
North East Somerset
24-04-2005, 20:23
Admiral to FC and Makaar:

Our engines have been restarted we are now accelerating to the Makaar fleet at full speed. Weapons are being loaded. All 100 helicopters are taking off and guarding the fleet.
Feline Catfish
24-04-2005, 20:24
"You do not seem to understand the concept of a deterrant. A deterrant is not where you say: 'Dont worry, we won't really do anything'. That is not a deterrant. A deterrant is, as we have done, a threat to use nuclear weapons if we are pushed, that being invaded. We have never threatened anyone with nuclear weapons unless they first either invade or cut off food from the Feline Catfish people. I fail to see how so many nations have not noticed this before.

There is no need for a conference. You and the other aggressors will leave, or you will be destroyed. We have many more nations at our back than you."

King George III
Populist Monarch of Feline Catfish
Stevid
24-04-2005, 20:26
Dostanuot Loj, it won't work. I've just tried and failed.
Strathdonia
24-04-2005, 20:33
OOC: Gah still can't ge tin with Crookfur, bloody forums

IC:
To say the mood inside Crookfur Stratcom was unhappy would be somehwat of an understatement
"Feck! how the bloody hell did we manage to take our off the ball so baddly this time!" yelled the senior officer
"Not the foggiest idea sir."
"Dammit man how quickly can get some serious assets itno the area?"
"A few hours of so, Hogsweat and the Praes are already on the way we coudl proabably get at least 1 PoF into postion in a few hours or so and possibly a maritine bird strike a lot sooner1"
"What about the MDF wing?"
"current workign up for deployment it'll be 12 hrs before they are ready."

"Right then, ge tthe nearest PoF moving and pass the work via the OMP comline about the inboud bird strike".

On Crookfur bases across the globe the massive engines of Crookfur long rnage aircraft begin to spool up as the alert units go into action. On numerous bomber bases, the dark shapes of Super Vulcans, B-2CFs, EB-52CFs and AL-52CFs begin to crawl onto runways before roaring away into the sky.

BAsically a large bomber formation is heading to defend FC and aide our allies, the force will cosnsit of:
50 Super vulcans
20 SEAD Super vulcans
30 B-2CFs
10 EB-52CFs
10 AL-52CFs

A full Crookfur Priamry operational fleet is on its way.
Dostanuot Loj
24-04-2005, 20:37
OOC: Stevid I'm attemptint to be fair and play the sides before I choose to get involved or not.
Feline Catfish, I'm going to assume that response was to me, so I will respond to it. If it was not, please say so and I will remove/edit this response to whatever you have in response to my message.

IC:
Official Response:
It is not required of a nuclear deterrant to threaten it's use at every instance. The simple knowladge of nuclear weapons in a nation that is willing to use them is sufficient. Yet you threaten it at every chance, for every little thing.
I have offered the allegiance of my nation to you and you have threatened us with your nuclear aresenol and calling us aggressors. I severly reccomend that you rethink your actions, and reread our message, for we have tried to be civil and freindly towards you.
I want you to understand that allies who will send aid and help you in a time of need without having to resort to nuclear war are a stronger deterrant then any nuclear weapon.
Any small country can have nuclear weapons and use them, but it can also be ganged by a dozen massive countries and anialated. Whereas a small country with very close and massive allies will fare much better when war is threatened. Do not be so quick to demand compliance at the threat of total destruction of your nation when you could easily demand compliance, or a compromise in your favour, with the mere threat of your allies stepping in on your side.

- Head of State, Dictator of Sumer:
Feild Marshal Peshtur Namtar
Strathdonia
24-04-2005, 20:40
OOC: Stevid I'm attemptint to be fair and play the sides before I choose to get involved or not.
Feline Catfish, I'm going to assume that response was to me, so I will respond to it. If it was not, please say so and I will remove/edit this response to whatever you have in response to my message.

IC:
Official Response:
It is not required of a nuclear deterrant to threaten it's use at every instance. The simple knowladge of nuclear weapons in a nation that is willing to use them is sufficient. Yet you threaten it at every chance, for every little thing.
I have offered the allegiance of my nation to you and you have threatened us with your nuclear aresenol and calling us aggressors. I severly reccomend that you rethink your actions, and reread our message, for we have tried to be civil and freindly towards you.
I want you to understand that allies who will send aid and help you in a time of need without having to resort to nuclear war are a stronger deterrant then any nuclear weapon.
Any small country can have nuclear weapons and use them, but it can also be ganged by a dozen massive countries and anialated. Whereas a small country with very close and massive allies will fare much better when war is threatened. Do not be so quick to demand compliance at the threat of total destruction of your nation when you could easily demand compliance, or a compromise in your favour, with the mere threat of your allies stepping in on your side.

- Head of State, Dictator of Sumer:
Feild Marshal Peshtur Namtar


Well said
Stevid
24-04-2005, 20:46
I'll be blunt. We all want peace except no one is willing to give in. No one wants to. War is on our doorsteps. Nuclear war is at the gate.
Feline Catfish
24-04-2005, 20:48
"All the aggressors need do is leave. We will not seek vengance, nor will we attempt to pursue them by other means. They have proven that they are Imperialists, now they may leave before their fleets are destroyed."

King George III
Populist Monarch of Feline Catfish
The Macabees
24-04-2005, 20:49
I'll be blunt. We all want peace except no one is willing to give in. No one wants to. War is on our doorsteps. Nuclear war is at the gate.

I'll be just as blunt. Feline Catfish has all the right, according to all assumed laws of national sovereingty, to purchase nuclear weapons. In turn, your act of blockade, as well as that of your allies, can only be considered as illegal. If Feline Catfish was to disarm, then it would only be fair that those nations taking place in the blockade should also disarm their own NBC stockpiles.
Feline Catfish
24-04-2005, 20:50
I'll be just as blunt. Feline Catfish has all the right, according to all assumed laws of national sovereingty, to purchase nuclear weapons. In turn, your act of blockade, as well as that of your allies, can only be considered as illegal. If Feline Catfish was to disarm, then it would only be fair that those nations taking place in the blockade should also disarm their own NBC stockpiles.
"If every nation ever involved in the blockade publicly destroys all of its WMD and agrees to constant neutral inspections to ensure that no more is being produced, then we will agree to scrap our nuclear weapons."

King George III
Populist Monarch of Feline Catfish
The Macabees
24-04-2005, 20:53
"If every nation ever involved in the blockade publicly destroys all of its WMD and agrees to constant neutral inspections to ensure that no more is being produced, then we will agree to scrap our nuclear weapons."

King George III
Populist Monarch of Feline Catfish

This is a very noble cause, indeed, and I will do all in my power to aid you in your plight to see this carried through, because peace is better than any nuclear war. However, I fear that the nations who blockade you have a sense of superiority that curtail any sanity. This entire blockade was instated through boredom, and to show of their military muscle. This war about to erupts was not your fault, and neither was it the fault of those who sold you nuclear weapons. It is the fault of those imperialist who only wish to dogpile the small.
North East Somerset
24-04-2005, 20:54
Our fleet is now within 50km of teh Makaraan Navy, we are at full speed and prepared to fire.
The Macabees
24-04-2005, 20:56
Our fleet is now within 50km of teh Makaraan Navy, we are at full speed and prepared to fire.

[OOC: I haven't read through the entire thread, so excuse my ignorance. Are you helping FC, or the blockaders?]
Makaar
24-04-2005, 20:56
"Sir, the enemy fleet has powered up its engines again. They are heading towards us, full speed." One of the lieutenants looked back to his computer screen.

"Understood, lieutenant," the captain said. He leaned back in his chair and stared at the computer readout, watching their fleet approach.

There was a tense silence on the bridge before the lieutenant swiveled in his chair. "Captain, aren't you going to do anything?!" he said, with an element of fear in his voice. The captain shook his head. "If we're going to survive this, we're going to have to stay calm and not engage them. Contact the Assembly, ask them when their reinforcements are going to arrive. Get all non-essential crew to the evacuation stations, in case they do attack. Prepare to scramble the aircraft. Contact the incoming fleet."

The lieutenant flicked several switches. The lights on the bridge dimmed and the female voice of the computer came over on the loudspeakers. "All non-essential crew, prepare to abandon ship. All non-essential crew, proceed to the evacuation stations and prepare to abandon ship." The lieutenant flicked another switch, and the captain spoke to the NES fleet.

"NES fleet, this is the Makaarian fleet. We do not want a war to start here today. Please, power down your weapons systems and slow yourselves. There is a peaceful way to end this. We await your response in friendship."

He motioned for the channel to be cut before standing. "Full tactical alert. Ready weapons systems, but don't load our cannons. We don't want to appear hostile now. All we can do now is sit back and hope they want to avoid war as much as we do."
Cotland
24-04-2005, 20:58
The Empire of Cotland hereby wish to officially condemn the blockade against Feline Catfish. Feline Catfish have every right to purchase nuclear weapons for use against enemy agressors like Makaar. We do not wish to jeapordize Cottish lives in this conflict, so we shall leave it with the condemnation of Makaar and its allies.

Regards
Imperial Government of Cotland
Makaar
24-04-2005, 20:59
Makaar is not an aggressor here, we want to avoid war, especially nuclear war - which is why we cannot allow a nation as small as FC to obtain nuclear weapons.
The Macabees
24-04-2005, 21:01
Makaar is not an aggressor here, we want to avoid war, especially nuclear war - which is why we cannot allow a nation as small as FC to obtain nuclear weapons.


Are you blind? There would be no nuclear war if all the agressors stood down. There isn't even a need for disarmament - this entire advent is stupid!
Stevid
24-04-2005, 21:01
I'll be just as blunt. Feline Catfish has all the right, according to all assumed laws of national sovereingty, to purchase nuclear weapons. In turn, your act of blockade, as well as that of your allies, can only be considered as illegal. If Feline Catfish was to disarm, then it would only be fair that those nations taking place in the blockade should also disarm their own NBC stockpiles.

That's too much to ask for all thosi that are taking part in the blockade. They'll never agree.

I can see there is no way out. Stevid stepping down from this subject. With threat from Macabees, Guffingford and allies to FC. Stevid will back. It is common sense.

But let it be known. We are not against you owning nukes but just the way FC threatened to use them on the blockade.

The allied fleet consists of about 10-12 nations while FC allies consist of 15-22 nations.

Stevid backs down to avoid conflict. It is just basic common sense and a hope the blockade follows suit.

Message to FC.

Well played, you'd do well in the Cuban Missile Crisis. You've beaten the blockade and me. You've done well as a new nation and earned the respect of many (Including mine). Congrats.

Once again well played!
North East Somerset
24-04-2005, 21:02
To: the macabees
From: NES

NES is in support of FC and has sold it nuclear weapons.
North East Somerset
24-04-2005, 21:09
To: Makaar
From: NES

Our fleet will not slow, we are coming in at 30 knots and we are around 25-45km away from you. We will not falter. The helicopters are preparing to fire, the submarines are loading torpedoes. If we fire we will sink the Makaaran vessels immediately.
Kamarok
24-04-2005, 21:10
"Feline Catfish knows Kamaroks stance on their dire situation. we advise their representative to catch up on their situation about them deploying them as a show of force."
The Macabees
24-04-2005, 21:11
To: Makaar
From: NES

Our fleet will not slow, we are coming in at 30 knots and we are around 25-45km away from you. We will not falter. The helicopters are preparing to fire, the submarines are loading torpedoes. If we fire we will sink the Makaaran vessels immediately.

[OOC: Ok wait up, so you're forcing him to fire on you? You're going to single handedly start this war.]
Red Tide2
24-04-2005, 21:11
OOC:Makaar... did you see my earlier post? Its on the last page.
IC:The PT Boats waving the Feline Catfish Flag ignored the message by the Makaar fleet and continued ahead full speed. Within minutes they were in torepedo range of the Makaarian fleet. Then they launched the torepedoes.

These were custom designed torepedoes used only by the Red Tide Military, the HOA, and Corporations based in Red Tide. It was a MK-150 Anti-Ship Torepedo. It was bascilily a oversized torepedo with a MASSIVE armored piercing warhead. On the slow side for a torepedo but with enough firepower to rip a good sized hole in a Iowa Class Battleship. There were five torepedo boats. Each one fired 5 torepdoes before turning and running away as fast as possible, trying to get the hell out of Dodge. The torepedoes were mostly aimed at capitol ships... that is aircraft carriers and battleships.
Stevid
24-04-2005, 21:15
OOC:Makaar... did you see my earlier post? Its on the last page.
IC:The PT Boats waving the Feline Catfish Flag ignored the message by the Makaar fleet and continued ahead full speed. Within minutes they were in torepedo range of the Makaarian fleet. Then they launched the torepedoes.

These were custom designed torepedoes used only by the Red Tide Military, the HOA, and Corporations based in Red Tide. It was a MK-150 Anti-Ship Torepedo. It was bascilily a oversized torepedo with a MASSIVE armored piercing warhead. On the slow side for a torepedo but with enough firepower to rip a good sized hole in a Iowa Class Battleship. There were five torepedo boats. Each one fired 5 torepdoes before turning and running away as fast as possible, trying to get the hell out of Dodge. The torepedoes were mostly aimed at capitol ships... that is aircraft carriers and battleships.

So it has begun.
North East Somerset
24-04-2005, 21:17
Admiral to fleet and publicly (makaar):

Anchor all fleet. Stop all the fleet immediately. Reduce speed and stop. We are approx.30km away from the Makaaran fleet, we have just sighted huge explosions from the Makaraan Navy. Which idiot did this!

HMV Mendip:

It wasn't one of us sir......thats all I know.
The Macabees
24-04-2005, 21:18
[OOC: Hopefully, Makaar, Red Tide, and East Somerset will keep this little conflict to themselves, and the other nations will have the head to not follow in their footsteps and cause the beginning of a potential nuclear war.]
North East Somerset
24-04-2005, 21:21
Admiral (publicly)l: Pull the fleet out NOW, I will not be drawn into this unnecessary conflict, who on earth fired at Makaar.

HMV Mendip: We are heading for the docks in FC to join the rest of the fleet at 30 knots, and landing the helicopters.
Makaar
24-04-2005, 21:27
OOC: OK, I did see your post, but I dismissed it as someone joking around. However, I see now that you are serious, but since all you're trying to do is stir up trouble...

IC:
The Makaarian ships fire anti-missile guns at the incoming missiles. As the ships at the rear quickly load their cannons, they fire in the general direction of the Red Tide ships. Knowing that the ships came from the wrong side of the blockade, the captain of the Nimitz class orders an analysis of one of the torpedoes that managed to lodge itself in the hull but had its detonation mechanism damaged under fire. It is a custom design used by Red Tide ships. The Assembly chooses to ignore them and continues with the tense situation that was developing.

OOC: There. If this appears childish, maybe you should read your posts and check how your attitude seems. Everyone else, please delete you psts about the Makaarian fleet being attacked because I am turning my IGNORE cannons on the Red Tide ships.
The Parthians
24-04-2005, 21:30
Secret message to the Feline Catfish government:

The planes have landed and are waiting to be unloaded, please use these well and be careful with them, they are very powerful.

-Shah Khosru III
North East Somerset
24-04-2005, 21:30
HMV Mendip: Sir, we cant be sure what happened, we dont know what casualties if any Makaar has taken.

Admiral: Stop the ships at the FC territorial waters border then (100km from Makaraan navy), and stay there. Turn round to face them.
Red Tide2
24-04-2005, 21:32
OOC:First-off... It wasnt the GOVERMENT that was trying to start a war, it was a CRIME SYNDICATE based in MY country thats doing it. Second off, those were not missiles, they were TORPEDOES, and as far as I am concerned there is no such thing as a anti-torepedo(except what is known as a 'screamer). Second, even if one of the torepedoes when defunct, the others are gonna still blow. Meaning you have GOT to have some casualties. So far as I see it, your ignore is uynjustified... anyways, the PT Boat causualties will come up in a moment.
North East Somerset
24-04-2005, 21:35
OOC: I have to agree with Red Tide, there must be a casualty.....and with its large size and lack of armour It'll probably be a NIMITZ class.
Makaar
24-04-2005, 21:37
OOC: No, I'm still ignoring it. Either that or firing whatever anti-torpedo stuff I have at the torpedoes. My ignore is perfectly justified: your ships arrived out of no where for no reason with no time on their arrival or anything. Oddly enough, my sailors would not be blind; they would see your ships coming. Satellites would see them. Even if it isn't justified, it's my right to ignore any attack.

IC:
The Makaarian fleet transmits standard peaceful greetings on a continuous loop to the NES ships. Meanwhile, they keep their weapons powered down and drop anchor where they are, indicating their wish to stay. Finally, a voice interrupts the loop:

"This is Captain Ryan Fields of the Makaarian Royal Navy. We want to avoid war here. Please, we request a negotiation with your fleet. You may come over to our vessel, or I will come over to yours. Either way, we need your assurance that you will not fire as long as we do not. We await your reply."
Red Tide2
24-04-2005, 21:39
IC:The PT Boat crew men were laughing with each other at the succesfully conducted raid, a few of them popped open bottles of vodka and were about to drink it when they heard a screech and a plume of water shot out only a few meters away from one of the boats. The boats went into evasive manuevers immediatly.

Shells continued to scream down and explode while the PT boats zig-zagged threw the water. Then one of the shells scored a direct hit. The boat was ripped in half by the violent explosion. The ignited fuel burned what was left. The other boats continued to zig-zag.

OOC:Now I actually took CASUALTIES!
Praetonia
24-04-2005, 21:42
[OOC: Malkaar that was a legit attack. You have to take casualties and unignore Red Tide.]
Strathdonia
24-04-2005, 21:43
OOC:First-off... It wasnt the GOVERMENT that was trying to start a war, it was a CRIME SYNDICATE based in MY country thats doing it. Second off, those were not missiles, they were TORPEDOES, and as far as I am concerned there is no such thing as a anti-torepedo(except what is known as a 'screamer). Second, even if one of the torepedoes when defunct, the others are gonna still blow. Meaning you have GOT to have some casualties. So far as I see it, your ignore is uynjustified... anyways, the PT Boat causualties will come up in a moment.

Actually torps can be hit by CIWs and aimed MG fire, particualrly if fired from PT baots as the fish tend not to go terribly deep and since you mentioned that these are slower than nromal then it does become a bit easier.
yes you woudl still score hits but pretty much at the cost of your entire boat group, as your victims woudl ahev plenty time to fire on your before your torps hit.
North East Somerset
24-04-2005, 21:44
Admiral to Malkaar

As long as you do not enter FCs territorial waters we will not fire at you. We are sending over an Arctica Class Cruiser (HMV Mendip) with a 4 atlantica class frigate escort (carrying a total of 11 helicopyers) to confer with you.
Makaar
24-04-2005, 21:45
OOC: Look, ignore my remarks earlier. This could turn out fun...

IC: The ships continued their firing off into the distance, something the NES ships wondered about. On the bridge, Captain Fields contemplated his options.

"Hull breaches on C Deck!" cried one of the lieutenants. "We're taking in water!!!" Another lieutenant screamed from his station, "Casualty reports coming in, 200 crew missing!"

The captain stood. "Activate the emergency bulkheads, seal the breach. Send a signal to all ships in range, we are in need of immediate assistance!"

"Sir, the NES ships are the only ships in range," one of the midshipmen said. "You left the fleet behind about 20km away and we've lost long range comms!"

The captain sighed. "Very well. Signal the NES ships, we need immediate aid or we're all going to die."
North East Somerset
24-04-2005, 21:47
Admiral to Malkaar:

The ships we are sending over will try to pick up your men, we are coming in at full power (35 knots) and we are 25km away. Our other ships (apart from the ones in dock at FC) have been ordered to follow.
North East Somerset
24-04-2005, 21:49
Admiral to Ships:

This is an EMERGENCY send all ships within a 50km radius to aid the Malkaaran naval vessels, people are dying here....
North East Somerset
24-04-2005, 21:50
Admiral to HMV Mendip:

Load the main guns!
Makaar
24-04-2005, 21:53
The Makaarian sailors dived into the waters below. As lifeboats fell into the sea, the survivors scrambled towards them. Crews jumped straight from the bridge as the captain ordered an abandon ship. Before he did anything, he ran down the stairs to the munitions store and set one of the bombs for 5 minutes, as was Makaarian procedure. He then ran back to the top deck and dove into the water.

The lifeboats sailed towards the NES ships as their Nimitz-class exploded behind them. Sending huge shockwaves into the water, a large chunk of debris cut into one of the inflatable boats, leaving the sailors on that boat stranded in the water, relatively unharmed. Another lifeboat sailed to pick them up. It was a scene of chaos.

As they arrived near the NES ships, Captain Fields took a set of flare guns and fired them into the air to indicate their positions relative to the rescue ships. They slowed to prepare to be taken in by the rescue vessels.
Red Tide2
24-04-2005, 21:53
OOC:Strathdonia... I never knew that, :writes it down:

Anyways... thank you Makaar. Now or the rest of my boat group to die, X_X.

IC:Two more boats erupted in half. The final boat(which was also the lead boat), half of the crew panicked, "WE'RE GONNA DIE!" One of them shouted.

And as if on cue a shell landed so close to the side of the boat that it flipped over. Spilling out some of the crew members. Those that didnt know how to swim disappeared underneath the waves. Those that did began to swim towards the nearest ships. Only 3 men from the boats were now alive(the rest either drowned or ripped to shreds by an explosion).
Feline Catfish
24-04-2005, 21:56
"Sir! Others are firing upon the Fascist invaders!"

"By God, you're right! Ready the missiles. Saturate their fleet with fire!"

"Yes Sir!" Came shouts from all across the sub. The VLS hatches broke, twenty missiles streaked out towards the enemy fleet.

"Dive! Dive deep!" The Captain shouted and the boat plummetted into the depths of the ocean. No one would find them now and within a few hours they would be back in port in Felian Catfish.
Makaar
24-04-2005, 21:57
The remaining Makaarian ships pursued the Red Tide pirates, fnally closing on their destroyed fleet. As they arrived near the three men, they threw down a rope ladder for the men to grab on to. As they crawled up the ladder, they were greeted by a group of men with rifles.

"Lieutenant Brian Victors, Ship Security!" one of them barked. "I'm placing you under arrest for piracy at sea, threatening the lives of Makaarian servicemen, threatening a Makaarian naval ship, destruction of a Makaarian naval ship, and attempting to start war through decietful means."

As he did this, a voice shouted over the loudspeaker: "All hands, tactical alert. We have confirmed enemy missile fire heading for our position. Man the anti-missile guns, prepare for an enemy attack."

As the group of pirates were siezed and taken to the brig to be kept under armed guard, all the others rushed to their stations. The anti-missile guns turned towards the direction the missiles would be coming from.
North East Somerset
24-04-2005, 21:58
Admiral to Rescue Vessels:

Set the emergency lifeboats to sea, any survivors must be picked up.

Admiral to Makaraan Navy:

Do not move any closer to the rescue ships, we will take the survivors back to FC were they will be safe and our hostages.

Admiral to Other Ships:

Back-up the rescue vessels and then escort them back to FC.
North East Somerset
24-04-2005, 22:00
OOC: looks like more casualalties for the Makaarans.
Red Tide2
24-04-2005, 22:00
The 3 men froze, looked at each other. They didnt know what the man was saying(Red Tideans are predominantly Russian) but the men with assualt rifles made it kind of obvious. One began to reach for a pistol in his holster, thought better of it, and put his hands in the air. The other 2 followed suite.
Feline Catfish
24-04-2005, 22:02
*cough*

/me points at my post about launching missiles.
Makaar
24-04-2005, 22:03
OOC: Sorry about that, I was typing my post when you posted yours, so have done an edit.
North East Somerset
24-04-2005, 22:05
OOC: I dont think you can hit all these missiles down......
Makaar
24-04-2005, 22:10
OOC: I don't intend to shoot them all down, but let the record show that Feline Catfish made the first truly hostile move.

IC:

The missiles come into range of the ships, which concentrate their fire. Several are shot down, but 4 manage to get through and hit different ships.

One of the destroyers is hit in its munitions store. For a second, nothing happens, but then it explodes upwards, then outwards, sending debris everywhere. Another missile hits one of the missile cruisers, splitting it in half and sending the rear section sinking to the bottom of the sea. As sailors all abandon their damaged ships, and with loss of life everywhere, the other two missiles hit two different ships, which both suffer massive damage across their port side and are now leaning severaly to one side and unable to fire their weapons or even move.
North East Somerset
24-04-2005, 22:16
Admiral to Makaraan navy:

We cannot save you this time. All our ships are heading back to the FCs docks where they will be repaired and refuelled.
Feline Catfish
24-04-2005, 22:21
OOC: I don't intend to shoot them all down, but let the record show that Feline Catfish made the first truly hostile move.
OOC: OOCly, sure, but ICly you don't have a clue who fired those missiles (as they're just generic Russian SSMs from real life) and you're very unlikely to find the sub and use that as evidence.
The Silver Sky
24-04-2005, 23:40
OOC: I've been watching this conflict since it started and here is my 2 cents (Ignore if you want too) 1: Feline, who could you get theses nukes and be able to fire them in less then 1 NS year, the cost of the nukes the cost of the nuke silos, the cost of the Battle Class Destroyers, the cost of training men to man those stations (During the Gulf War the cost of training a standard rifle men to proficent was $84,000 and the cost of keeping him at that skill level was $30-50,000 per infantry man per year), and then training all these men to use weapons and launch nukes would totally collapse your economy, you wouldn't be able to even bulid the silos required would be over a NS year, maybe even 2, and remember during war time your military should not excced 2-5% of your total pop. if you are even able to afford that much, and remember for every combat soldier you have 1 in reserve, and 3 in logistical support.

In short you should only be able to train, equip, deploy, supply or even afford would be a basic rifle company maybe a regiment.
Sorry for the long OOC part.
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President Jason Garner slowly rose from his seat in the Pentagon Strategic Command room to address Five-Star General Lance Jennings, Admiral Micheal Sutherland, and Strategic Air Commander Marcus Cromwell . "Well gentlemen, spy satilites have comfirmed hostility have taken place, but have as of now been between only 2 nations and a rogue pirate group, which course of action do you suppose we take?"
Admiral Sutherland answered first "Well the 1st and 2nd fleets are currently participating in live fire practice near Sand Island Air Base, I would say five hours too be replenished and a fully 4 day steam to the area, I say we protect Feline Catfish."

General Lance spoke next. "Since this takes place overseas I really have no say in this but, I say we support FC but afterwords go back to being neutral."

SAC Cromwell responded. "If with General Lance, I've also been itching to try out our new F/A-40 Strike Dagger fighters, so I'm for supporting FC"

"Well I guess that settles it, Admiral have the 1st and 2nd fleets stand buy for replenishment, after it's over have the fleets depart for 100 miles off the coast of FC and send a tranmission telling them we are friendly." said the President. "Right away sir."
"Good, you're all dismissed.
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OOC: My total combined ships from those two fleets are 90 ships.
Dracun imperium
24-04-2005, 23:55
A fiery hell rained down upon Imperial Center, burning buildings, and rocking the mighty foundation in which it was built all those many years ago. Bane watched with an eye of vengeance as his city was attacked from the sky. I...I was going to help the....I was going to help them end this conflict!, his mind screamed and he slammed his fist into his wall, creating a large hole.

As his city burned he quickly drafted a letter,
To all nations opposed to the Nuclear Disarmament of Feline Catfish,
I was going to help you, join you and make sure this conflict ended as I have matters to attend to, and you go and assault me!? The Audacity is unspeakable. I ask now, and will demand later for reparations. This was totally uncalled for, you killed innocents, my servants and this come from nations who dare say they fight for freedom.

Emperor Bane The XXXV
Dread Lord of the Dracun Imperium
Bringer of Discord and Chaos

http://www.sith.pl/bots/sith/slynni_lordowie/pliki/darthsion0.jpg
Greater Valia
25-04-2005, 00:19
Decree from Ministry of War: In light of FC aggression and unwillingness to cooperate diplomatically a Valian Navy task force will be sent to blockade FC until their government is willing to cooperate and dismantle all, or 85% of their nuclear arsenal including but not limited to ICBMS and tactical nuclear weapons.

OOC: I will be posting what forces I will be sending shortly.
The Silver Sky
25-04-2005, 00:23
President Garner hung up the phone. On his face was a mix of emotions, saddness, terror, shock, but most of all anger. "Damn them how could they use ballistic missiles, all those people killed, why? They never fired a shot, DAMN THEM!" He slammed his fist on the desk causing him coffee mug too fall off the desk and shatter, hearing the loud noise his secartary(sp?) ran into the room and asked what was wrong, President Garner said nothing except that he wanted too tell Admiral Sutherland and the other military leaders that they would no long support FC and to immedently return to harbor..

After getting off the phone with General Lance and Admiral Sutherland, President Garner called SAC Cromwell and told him to put all nuke silos and ABM stations under Code 1 alert, and activate the SDI satillites. He wanted no more missiles to get through.
Dracun imperium
25-04-2005, 00:25
OOC:I made the same mistake Silver sky, they aren't nukes... apparently just big explosions.
Basque Spain
25-04-2005, 00:28
Basque Spain will begin as of tomorrow large scale air raids of the Feline Catfish nuclear facilities. The bombing will be done with Basque AF-8 Valkries (TG me for the specs).
Artitsa
25-04-2005, 03:41
Feline CatFish, we happen to be ridding ourselves of our older nuclear devices, would you like some... for free?

In the meantime, we'll be sending four fleets, plus the Black Fleet to your waters to assist you. We would certainly hope that you have the capacity to dock 2,000+ military combat vessels.
The Vuhifellian States
25-04-2005, 03:49
We will be glad to give the Feline Catfish our old 1968 ICBM's with self detonating unit.....erm....we mean our old ICBM's which won't explode in your face....yeah won't....let's go with that.
Pintopia
25-04-2005, 04:47
Feline Catfish, The Republic of Pintopia is sending it's 3rd fleet to your aid. It consists of 6 destroyers, 3 aircraft carriers, and some very special surprises.
Also, did you receive the adapted "Star Wars" defense system plans I sent encoded to you.
UNIverseVERSE
25-04-2005, 15:58
Official Telegram

To:Basque Spain, Dracun Imperium, Greater Valia, Makaar
From: UNIverseVERSE
Subject: Feline Catfish

We have been monitoring this situation for several days now, and have decided to step in and aid you this. Makaar, the missiles which struck your ships are suspected to have come from a Feline Catfishian submarine, we will let you know when our spy satellites manage to determine this. We are now beginning the mobilisation of part of our military force, and will be ready for an assault soon.

Yours sincerely, Emmanuel Jaekobs, Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces, on behalf of the President.
Hogsweat
25-04-2005, 16:33
To: All Nations Involved
We take full responsibility for the attack on Dracun Imperium. Furthermore, we will not pay reperations for damage done to Dracun Imperium. In addition, we demand that Dracun Imperium pay us the total sum of 500,000,000 USD for the waste that was the missiles fired at their capital.

We suggest to UNIverseVERSE that they halt any military mobilisations or the same fate may happen to them as was the unfortunate nation of Dracun Imperium. We are not looking for bloodshed, but if we have to we will make it. We are justly defending the sovereignty of this nation, from foreign imperialistic attack.

To Credonia, a powerful and in our eyes well respected nation, we ask that you do not mobilise any forces against Feline Catfish or it's glorious defenders. It would be most unfortunate if Hogsweatian forces came into Clash with our allies Credonia on this matter.

The pilots flew over Feline Catfish, lowering to 10,000 feet altitude as they entered national airspace. The lead pilot of the group, Sergei Roskov, a well respected and dearly loved veteran airforce pilot radioed in to a nearby Feline airbase on an encoded channel;
Super Six One speaking, Hotellian Alpha Foxtrot, requesting permission to land, over.

As well, the C5's and Boeing747's entered airspace and requested permission to land at an airbase or airport to unload humanitarian supplies, monetary aid, and the auxiliary weapons.

The fleet left yesterday, the smaller ships in perfect formation with the bigger ones on their 5 day long course to Feline Catfish as part of Coalition Defensive Measures.
Zackaroth
25-04-2005, 16:43
OOC: What why did you attack Dracun when he was going to help you??
Hogsweat
25-04-2005, 16:49
OOC - Why are you asking this OOC? Basically his post said that if Feline Catfish stops doing what it wants to do then there will be peace - he said nothing about immediate peace which I demanded, so i acted.
Makaar
25-04-2005, 16:55
As the surviving naval vessels sailed towards the origin of the missiles, they launched their air defence units. As they did so, over the horizon, the Makaarian reinforcements arrived. 64 F-16s, 29 F-117s and 3 Invincible-class aircraft carriers moved to rendezvous with the fleet.

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Prime Minister Ranford shuddered as he read the report. Ships bearing the Feline Catfish flags firing at the Makaarian ships; then a missile strike against the Makaarian fleet.

An emergency meeting of the Assembly had been called to discuss an appropriate course of action. Journalists mobbing him, the Prime Minister moved quickly up the Senate steps and through the giant doors, which were immediately locked and sealed behind him.

As he entered, the members of the Assembly clapped, as was traditional. He stepped quickly up to the podium and addressed the members of Parliament, the members of the Assembly, and the television cameras and journalists.

"Citizens of Makaar," he spoke; "As you are aware, we have been a part in the escalating Feline Catfish situation. Now we find ourselves under attack. This morning, a Makaarian battle group participating in a blockade of Feline Catfish was attacked by vessels bearing the Feline Catfish flag, and then by missiles launched from the direction of Feline Catfish. The men we captured have admitted working for the Feline Catfish Government."

"Makaar will not stand for this. Therefore, I ask the King to declare a state of war against Feline Catfish."

There was a huge round of applause. Assembly members rose to their feet and cheered. Then, a red light fell over the chamber from a flame lit above it. A silence descended, before the King stood.

"The Assembly has shown its support for you, Mr. Prime Minister," he said. "I authorise this declaration of war against Feline Catfish and turn control of the armed forces over to the Chiefs of Staff."

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The fleet closed on Feline Catfish lands as the aircraft flew against their ports. As they arrived above them, they dropped their bombs onto the ships and the port there...

OOC: And then they broke out the wiffle canes...
Ankhmet
25-04-2005, 17:27
ooc:Someone helping the blockade o_o :D! Yay! Ankhmet to the rescue!

ic:
The entire Ankhmeti Foreign Fleet steamed into the waters near the battle. It had been in transit since an executive order by the People's Commissar that the waters of Feline Catfish were to be blockaded. The token flagship, a masspwnage built ubercarrier was at the rear, but still a massive target. Unknown the the people of Feline Catfish, the ship was primed to be sunk near the coast, with the prototype Ankhmeti 0.7 gigaton nuclear device. It would boil the seas and poison the water, killing of masses of fishing stock and destroying ships within a huge radius. 80 of the heaviest dreadnoughts and destroyers of the fleet were moving with the ship, to a glorious decommissioning. The The captain of the real flagship, a nondescript destroyer somewhere in the middle of the fleet hailed the Maakarian ships.


"This is Ankhmeti Naval Superforce 1. I believe you have taken some losses. Perhaps you would like some assistance. Perhaps the largest naval fleet assembled in Ankhmeti history will suffice?"

The front 50 ships, all destroyers moved to aid the stricken Maakarians.
Makaar
25-04-2005, 17:32
"This is the HMMS Nimble to the Ankhmet fleet. We have taken some losses because of Feline Catfish missile fire. There are sailors in the water around us who need assistance. A large squadron of bombers are moving to destroy Feline Catfish ports, and we are preparing to follow them. We have reinforcements on the way. Please leave one of your destroyers to pick up the survivors, and the rest of us can sail on towards FC. HMMS Nimble out."

The ships moved back into formation and prepared for an attack on the FC defences.
Zackaroth
25-04-2005, 17:45
15 Zackarothian ships headed torwards the battle. !0 were destoryers 4 were subs and the main ship was a Aircraft carrier which was carrying crop dusters??(( this will be explained later...)).

" These the zackarothian small nava squad. We are are here to help orders from the High -leader himself. We can assist in helping surviors of the attacked ships that have fallen over board We would also like if you could get some aircraft defending our vital aircraft carrier. over."
Kamarok
25-04-2005, 18:06
OOC: can someone fill me in on whats happened so far and whos vs who?

IC: "Kamarok has already dispatched nuclear technology to assist Feline Catfish in their struggle. we are currently planning to fire deactivated nuclear ICBMs into a deserted area of Feline Catfish where FC military personel can transport the unexploded missiles back to a silo to be reactivated.

order will be sent in confirmation of this announcement"
North East Somerset
25-04-2005, 18:13
Admiral Publicly:

In the bombing of the docks by Makaraan planes we have taken 8 casualties in ships (2 AF ships, 3 Patrol ships, 2 Frigates and 1 corvette). We still hold the port position and have dispersed out fleet around feline catfish island.

We currently have the following naval units in and around FC island:

40 Auxiliary Fleet vessels escorted by 59 'Atlanta Class' Frigates, 23 'Pacifica Class' Destroyers, 3 'Arctica Class' Cruisers, 5-15 'Fisher Class' Patrol Submarines, 5-15 'Whaler' Class Attack Submarines, 19 'International Class' Patrol ships, 4 'Legionary Class' Minesweepers and 77 'Superior' Class Corvettes.


To clarify our position we are defending the island against the Makaraan navy and any other agressors, until support from allies arrives.

Admiral Holbrow
Feline Catfish
25-04-2005, 18:15
ooc: OOC: I've been watching this conflict since it started and here is my 2 cents (Ignore if you want too) 1: Feline, who could you get theses nukes and be able to fire them in less then 1 NS year, the cost of the nukes the cost of the nuke silos,
If you actually read the thread, you will see they were all donated and some flown in. I didn't pay for any of them. Also, none of them are silo based - they're deployed in railway carriages.

the cost of the Battle Class Destroyers,
I built them some time ago, before I signed up in NS years. I should also point out (and you'd know if you actually read the attached thread) that the Battle Class Destroyer is just a WWII design with some Harpoons on it.

the cost of training men to man those stations (During the Gulf War the cost of training a standard rifle men to proficent was $84,000 and the cost of keeping him at that skill level was $30-50,000 per infantry man per year),
Yes, in the US military, and guess what? The US has the biggest spending per troop in the RL world. Not a fair comparison now is it?

and then training all these men to use weapons and launch nukes would totally collapse your economy,
I don't see why. It doesnt exactly take very many men just to aim something and then press a button. Remember that unless you lot are godmodding insta-arrivals, I have at least a month or so between getting the nukes and you lot arriving.

you wouldn't be able to even bulid the silos required would be over a NS year, maybe even 2, and remember during war time your military should not excced 2-5% of your total pop. if you are even able to afford that much, and remember for every combat soldier you have 1 in reserve, and 3 in logistical support.
I covered the silo thing. Again, if you care to read the OOC thread for this (not very good at that, are you?) then you'd see I have 50,000 active soldiers in my army. That's 0.625% of my population.

If anyone else wants to question the realisticness of ym claims then I'll simply link them to this post.

ic:

"I personally thank all that have helped for their offers of help, especially Artitsa. With 2,000 nuclear devices instead of a mere 300 not one of these Imperialist Fascists will dare continue their crusades of wanton vandalism and destruction.

To those who have threatened us and added to the illegal blockade, I will say this once and only once: All vessels bound for Feline Catfish will be allowed through unmolestered. You will not enter our national waters on any account or for any reason. If one of these terms is breached, then we will not hesistate to through your defilers of our sacred seas into a nuclear abyss. You have been warned. You may be used to pushing around small nations as if they were mere dirt and they may stand for that, but I promise you, we shall not."

King George III
Populist Monarch of Feline Catfish
North East Somerset
25-04-2005, 18:18
North East Somerset to Makaar:

After you bombing of the port we have officially decided to declare war on you. We have 200 prisoners from your navy we saved earlier on when you were attacked. We will hold them in our possession until you cease your attacks and remove your ant-feline catfish stance.
Hogsweat
25-04-2005, 18:36
The laughing inside the Tac Room simply would not stop. The satellite photos of the giant target that was the Uber Carrier was somewhat of a joke to the High Admiralty. They knew how to deal with it - and they would do so with sickening efficiency.

The Submarine Operations Fleet: Stealthpaw had left port as soon as the situation had started and in an hour would be in range of the Ankhmeti Carrier. The eight SSBN's were protected by a wall of the [i]Approximate class SSNs and they quickly began to close the range on the Ankhmeti carrier as it's escorts left the carrier basically undefended.

Meanwhile in high orbit the ARISTOTLE II satellite drifted into strike range and without further ado unsheathed it's ICBM complement of 8 guided EMP missiles and 6 Guided Tactical Nuclear Weapons and left them gleaming off the suns reflection.The Guided ICBMs had been designed for this purpose - to strike SDs and SCVN's from orbit in conjuction with the submarines.

As the submarines came into sonar range of any escorts, the SSNs armed missiles and torpedoes and prepared for combat as the SSBNs armed their 16 Trident D6 Tactical Cruise Missiles and fired them, all at once, into the air on a direct collision course with the Ubercarrier. 128 Cruise missiles streamed in at low trajectory course, skimming the sea and soon to crash into the ubercarrier's hull...

Given the word, or data, the ARISTOTLE II fired four of it's guided EMP missiles at the ubercarrier and subsequently two of the Tactical Nuclear Missiles.
North East Somerset
25-04-2005, 18:41
GENERAL ANNOUNCEMENT:

In an election held today the Conservative Party have replaced the Socialist Party. Our old Prime Minister, Dr Terence Proctor has been replaced by Mr Harold Durrell. Mr Durrel has already mentioned he will take a tougher stance to the FC issue and commit more naval vessels to defend FC.

Admiral to FC:

The 3 Auxililiary Fleet ships we dispatched yesterday are heading for FC territorial waters. They are filled with stores and natural gas. If anyone fires on the ships our vengeance will be swift.
Makaar
25-04-2005, 19:00
"Zackaroth vessels, we have recieved your communication. We have no fighters to spare but we have a number of Apache helicopters which will be used to protect our fleet. I suggest your join formation with us, we are preparing for an assault on Feline Catfish land."

Captain Simon Byrnes closed the channel. He was captain of the HMMS Nimble, one of the helicopter carriers and the vessel that had taken over as fleet flagship. As he did this, he nodded to a lieutenant, who flicked a switch on his control panel. The helicopters took off into the air to protect the fleet.

As he did this, the reinforcements closed to within visual range. The reinforcements included:

19 x Nimitz class aircraft carriers
30 x Ocean class helicopter carriers
42 x Ticonderoga class (Makaarian refit) missile cruisers, with 10 sea-to-surface missiles each
59 x King James class destroyers
30 x Ajolt class troop carriers (100 troops each)
22 x Trafalgar class submarines
1000 F-16s
520 A-10 Thunderbolts
300 Apache attack helicopters
50 Chinook troop transports

With the initial attack still in process against the FC ports, the 520 A-10 Thunderbolts took off, guarded by 400 F-16s. They had been ordered to take o the anti-personnel emplacements ahead of a huge assault by Makaarian troops.

At the same time, the Chinooks loaded marines and waited on the deck of the helicopter carriers. The troops inside were Makaarian Royal Guardiers; elite troops trained by the Makaarian authorities in "unorthodox" ways, and trained to operate behind enemy lines and destroy or take over small ships.

The troop carriers dropped behind the line of destroyers. Once they reached the FC ports, they would drop their troops to overwhelm the FC defences and take the port. The troops inside them were only the troops that the Army could muster in the few hours they had been given, but more troops were being assembled at the ports for a second assault.

20 Challenger-II tanks had also been dispatched. They had also been at the port at the right moment, although three were operating with a tank crew that had only just come out of training.

The sumbarines dived and formed a ring around the fleet, protecting them and performing constant sweeps for other subs. They loaded their torpedoes and readied themselves for an engagement with another fleet.
North East Somerset
25-04-2005, 19:07
This is seen as a completely unneccesary act of war. Our navy will do everything in their power to stop this illegal attack being successful. Also we must mention that FC may use his nuclear weapons against your fleet.

PUBLIC NOTICE
From: Harold Durrel, Newly elected Prime Minister.
Zackaroth
25-04-2005, 19:08
" Thats a copy. Joining formation in a matter of minutes. Over and out." said the commander as he ordered his fleet to join up with the others. Oce the beach defenses gone they would attack the cities in a most unfamilar way. The commander smiled and ordered all troops be on aler for missles. He ordered the subs to go forward to act as a shield against missles. The destoryers in the back would have to fend for themself.
Ankhmet
25-04-2005, 19:13
We wish to warn those participating in this war that Ankhmet is willing to institute a scorched earth policy. as such, the launch codes to Ankhmeti Gigaton scramjet nuclear weapons have been released tot he missiliers. Should the blockade go too badly we will have no problems in launching these weapons. Let the world hear this and back off. They have no business interfering with an effort to make the world a little more peaceful, do they?

Line News Commissar Kheperi-Re-Atum, shortly before a shell hit his position, Thomasien war.
North East Somerset
25-04-2005, 19:18
Admiral Holbrow to all NESN ships:

Take up defensive formation. Cruisers, Destroyers and Frigates on the outside, others inside. Send the submarines and corvettes to scour the seas for enemy subs. Load your guns and head towards the enemy at a slow pace. If you see any planes shoot them down with SAMs. We are not going to give up, we will fight on! Send the Auxiliary Vessels out of the docks, they will probably be bombed. Spread them out in the seas, the other side of the enemy.
Ankhmet
25-04-2005, 19:25
The ubercarrier performed it's final ask admirably, if at the wrong time. The .7 Gigaton weapon inside it detonated, vapourising the rearward 100 vessels of the fleet. Still the sea was crowded with vessels, amongst them thousands of landing craft moving into position. Elite stormtroopers in hydrofoils sped towards the thomasien coast. Hundreds of thousands of marine troopers were ready to make landfall should the order to invade be given. they were much more ready to make a move backwards, should the 'scorched earth' policy be enacted.

250 'Screamer' artillery boats trained their railguns at the closest port they could. These railguns were fitted with phosphorous, to start a blaze in the docks.

ooc:Total fleet composition as of nuclear attack:

300 screamer artillery boats,
200 aegis cruisers,
250 Nimitz aircraft carriers (ankhmeti variant),
7,000 F-22 raptors,
1,000 'Heka Khasewt' foreign incursion dsetroyers,
25 'victor' fleet direction vessels,
2,000 'Kheperi-Re-Atum' combat fast attack boats,
2,700 'Hand of Re' combat transports (100 men per transport, some carry M1A1 Abrams tanks),


Fleet directive:

1)To enact a blockade of Feline Catfish to prevent the influx of atomic weapons.

2)To land troops in Feline Catfish should any conflict emerge.

3)To act as the eyes and ears of a gigaton-scale nuclear assault.
North East Somerset
25-04-2005, 19:34
With the advent of a nuclear war looking ever closer NES has decided to remove its presence from the seas around FC. The fleet has been ordered to leave FC waters for international waters at least 300km away from FC where it will wait. All supplies to FC will also follow these orders.

Prime Minister Harold Durrell


We have done all we can, we held off the attacks until support could arrive to help FC, but all the nations that offered to help have not yet done anything. We could waste our navy in this war or pull out and watch the events from a distance, we have chosen the latter.

Admiral Holbrow
Dumpsterdam
25-04-2005, 19:34
Blockading nations will withdraw at once, or face destruction of their fleets, and homelands should we feel like it.

This is your last warning, heed it, or face thousands of casualties.

The Empire of Dumpsterdam
North East Somerset
25-04-2005, 19:41
To: All nations
From: Prime Minister Harold Durrell

We are very sad indeed to announce that this war will probably go thermonuclear. We did all we can as a nation to support FC through this crisis, and we called for allies to come in. Many large nations (Dumperstam, Praetonia, Hogsweat etc.) sided with FC but they were not quick enough reacting and now it is to late. We have pulled our navy out of the area, there is nothing more we can do. We hope that war can be limited by the large nations threatening Makaar and Ankhmet with their own powers.
Ollieland
25-04-2005, 19:42
Official statement from Governor Kathy Chung of the Colony of Ollieland.

Whilst it is the avowed policy of this nation never to use or own nuclear weapons*, we do believe that nations must have a right to self determination within their own affairs. We wholeheartedly endorse the actions of those nations defending Feline Catfish, and urge all blockading nations to withdraw before this crisis escalates into a world conflict.


* Don't worry, I've got plenty of anti-ICBM systems, though.
Zackaroth
25-04-2005, 19:46
OOC: wait did that blast kill my and Makaar's fleet??
Feline Catfish
25-04-2005, 19:48
ooc: A 700 megatonne nuke is sheer godmod. In real life the biggest are around 10 MT, although I believe a 20MT one was designed but never built.

ic: "Your Majesty, the invasion has begun," said a messanger, stapping to attention and bowing his head before his Monarch. King George trembled slightly. It was the first time he had done so throughout the entire affair and it was not out of fear for his enemies, but fear of what he was about to do.

"General Rotherham... do we... do we..." he croacked, struggling to keep his voice steady. He cleared his throat and continued, "The weapons from Artitsa?"

"Yes Your Majesty, we do. They have been set up in railway carriages with the others."

"Thankyou General. I will address my people now."

"Of course, Your Majesty," Rotherham replied, bowing alongside the messanger so far below him. The King turned, dignified in the absolute moral belief of his next course of action, and walked out onto the balconey. In the great square below, thousands of people sat camped in tents. At the beginning of the crisis it had been but a few, but since things had developed and the peoples' pride in their Sovereign and King grew by the day, so had the pilgrims who came to catch a glimpse of the great man himself.

"My people," his voice rang in the cold morning air. They stood up and cheered. He raised his hand to silence them, and then he bowed. He bowed, "My great, glorious people! Every one of you has my love and respect, for the devotion you have shown me, and the devotion you have shown your country. I come before you today with a great choice. Earlier this morning, Makaarian and Ankhmeti missiles hit our ports and killed thousands of men, women and children - just like you here today. It is clear to me that they intend to finish this once and for all - to destroy us utterly.

"I hope that you have not underestimated my resolve in supporting me. I am ready to go through with my promises to the great foe, but I realise it is not my decision to make. I am but one man, and you, alongside me, will suffer all the consequences of my actions. I cannot make this choice for you. I will give you twenty minutes, for we have no more, but I swear in the sight of almighty God that your decision will be accepted, no matter what that may be."

As soon as he finished speaking, a silence that had never before been heard fell upon Feline Catfish. The cameras trained on the Monarch had just broadcast this speech to all the peoples of the nation, and of the world. The events about to proceed would all be caught live and transmitted live.

Absolute silence. For a mere six second it lasted, but it seemed like an enternity. And at the end of eternity, the whole world errupted.

"George! George! George!" The crowd shouted, thrusting their clentched fists into the air towards their Monarch. Comments shouted from the crowd reached the Sovereign's ears,

"George'll see us through!", "We knew you wouldn't let us down!", "Club 'em down!"

The Sovereign raised both his hands, indicating for the crowd to be silent, and they obeyed without question and without complaint. King George III surveyed his loyal people for several minutes, before finally speaking just a few simply words, "And so it is done."

The crowd errupted in cheers once again, and George turned sharply about and walked back into the palace to the accolade of the crowd. Two hundred missiles were prepped and readied for launch, out of a current total of 2,300, mostly thanks to the kindness of Artitsa in donating 2,000 weapons. The missile lifted off as ambulace and fire crews rush to the ports to try to save the families and servicemen trapped, dying, within. In the bitter cold of a Feline Catfish morning, the missiles took off, not in their usual ballistic paths but rather in flat paths, not needing the extra range afforded by ballistic mode but launched where stealth and ABM avoidance was at a preimum. The fury of Feline Catfish is unleashed against the blockading fleets.



"You have brought us nothing but death, noble peacemakers, and now we shall repay you ten times over."

King George III
Populist Monarch of Feline Catfish
North East Somerset
25-04-2005, 19:49
Admiral to fleet:

The whole fleet (apart from 20-30 submarines) is now out of FC territorial waters and in international waters, we will keep going for a while yet though and remain in reserve for the possible counter attack of FC island.

Admiral to Submarines:

Remain at the maximum depth possible, if you see any other vessels within FC territorial waters fire your torpedoes at them. When the enemy forces land fire your 90 Tomahawks at them!
Feline Catfish
25-04-2005, 19:50
ooc: Yes, Makaar's nuke would destroy the entire blockade, but I'm ignoring it because it's godmod.
Pael
25-04-2005, 19:55
The country of Pael denounces this madness and begs all sides to come to their senses. While Feline Catfish may have acted in an arrogant and frustrating manner, that is no reason to declare a blockade, much less wage war! What sort of nations are so bloodthirsty that they see the acquisition of power by an obscure country as a threat they must kill millions to answer? Ankhmet, especially, has shamed its people and stuck a finger in the eye of international diplomacy and cooperation with her repeated beligerence and hostility towards all parties involved. Cease this idiocy and sit down to talk out a solution!

Towards this end, Pael has dispatched a small medical convoy to the beleagured country of Feline Catfish. Because of the lack of available harbors, the convoy will have to dock at that which is currently under fire. We ask that the attacks be halted long enough for our supplies to reach the needlessly dying people, and if any of the ships are attacked, overtly or by some strange "coincidence," Pael will not fail to answer. If you truly want to make the world "more peaceful," we suggest you step down and talk about your problems as civilized beings generally do, instead of throwing a temper tantrum because some country you don't like got its hands on nuclear weapons.

OOC:
The ubercarrier performed it's final ask admirably, if at the wrong time. The .7 Gigaton weapon inside it detonated, vapourising the rearward 100 vessels of the fleet.
300 screamer artillery boats,
200 aegis cruisers,
250 Nimitz aircraft carriers (ankhmeti variant),
7,000 F-22 raptors,
1,000 'Heka Khasewt' foreign incursion dsetroyers,
25 'victor' fleet direction vessels,
2,000 'Kheperi-Re-Atum' combat fast attack boats,
2,700 'Hand of Re' combat transports (100 men per transport, some carry M1A1 Abrams tanks),

We wish to warn those participating in this war that Ankhmet is willing to institute a scorched earth policy. as such, the launch codes to Ankhmeti Gigaton scramjet nuclear weapons have been released tot he missiliers. Should the blockade go too badly we will have no problems in launching these weapons. Let the world hear this and back off. They have no business interfering with an effort to make the world a little more peaceful, do they?


Ankhet, please stop the n00bishness. Declaring a blockade without cause, then attacking a country for an extremely suspicious "attack"? Along with the fact that there is no way in hell your country could support 250 Nimitz carriers, or that so many ships could possibly fit into an area of the ocean smaller than the Indian Ocean, and a ".7 Gigaton" nuclear weapon 20 times more powerful than any ever developed, with a couple severe caps in the way of more power? And you're willing to go n00ktastic with magical SCRAMjet gigaton missiles? Seriously, please find a way to politely back out before your nation gets glassed and you become the largest MagicChina ever.
Pael
25-04-2005, 19:59
The missile lifted off as ambulace and fire crews rush to the ports to try to save the families and servicemen trapped, dying, within. In the bitter cold of a Feline Catfish morning, the missiles took off, not in their usual ballistic paths but rather in flat paths, not needing the extra range afforded by ballistic mode but launched where stealth and ABM avoidance was at a preimum. The fury of Feline Catfish is unleashed against the blockading fleets.


The World Ambassador of Pael congratulates Feline Catfish on his clever ICBM feint (hint, hint), but asks that, in these charged times, no one make such an obviously hostile move that could so easily be interpreted as nuclear attack (hint, hint). After all, surely Feline Catfish is above such juevenile nations that threaten ultimate retaliation and risk tremendous nuclear poisoning just because of a slight? So far the damage to your country is not so great that it cannot be repaired, and we suggest you do all in your power to keep it that way!
North East Somerset
25-04-2005, 20:03
OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT STATEMENT

Are you suggesting that FC stands by whilst people attack him openly when he has warned so many times what he will do if they attack him.
Feline Catfish
25-04-2005, 20:04
The World Ambassador of Pael congratulates Feline Catfish on his clever ICBM feint (hint, hint), but asks that, in these charged times, no one make such an obviously hostile move that could so easily be interpreted as nuclear attack (hint, hint). After all, surely Feline Catfish is above such juevenile nations that threaten ultimate retaliation and risk tremendous nuclear poisoning just because of a slight? So far the damage to your country is not so great that it cannot be repaired, and we suggest you do all in your power to keep it that way!
"We have always promised to nuke any fleet which attempts to invade Feline Catfish. We do not go back on our word. Unless you are willing to use your own military to destroy the entire blockade, I care little for your opinion. regardless, I cannot stop the weapons now.

Good day to you."

King George III
Populist Monarch of Feline Catfish
Pael
25-04-2005, 20:09
OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT STATEMENT

Are you suggesting that FC stands by whilst people attack him openly when he has warned so many times what he will do if they attack him.

If you attack us, we will invade you with our full army, and if necessary employ nuclear weapons. Oh dear, don't you need to invade us now, we've threatened to do something to you if you attack us!

Please tell us that you are not serious about Feline Catfish's threatened use of force "if they attack us" being a legitimate casus belli?

We also implore Feline Catfish to do her part to end this madness, and suggest that, perhaps, the missiles you launched were not quite all that was suggested. Several conflicts have been avoided in the past by, for example, rocket propellent malfunction, or experimental and unworkable warheads, or a colonel who refuses to arm the weapon before it is launched. Nothing is impossible, including the annihilation of your nation if this conflict continues on the current path.
Greater Valia
25-04-2005, 20:10
Announcement from the War Ministry: Due to, ah, logistics problems the deployment of the Expeditionary fleet to FC will be delayed slightly. Our current experts estimate in upwards of 3-6 months.
Feline Catfish
25-04-2005, 20:10
If you attack us, we will invade you with our full army, and if necessary employ nuclear weapons. Oh dear, don't you need to invade us now, we've threatened to do something to you if you attack us!

Please tell us that you are not serious about Feline Catfish's threatened use of force "if they attack us" being a legitimate casus belli?
ooc: He's on my side.
Feline Catfish
25-04-2005, 20:13
Announcement from the War Ministry: Due to, ah, logistics problems the deployment of the Expeditionary fleet to FC will be delayed slightly. Our current experts estimate in upwards of 3-6 months.
"Ah, how the dominos fall like a pack of cards. Checkmate. Great powers of the world take heed - this nation was scared off my a nation of a mere 8 million people and an economy which pales in comparison to those of other nations. The Imperialists have struck, the weak have arisen, and we shall have liberty!

King George III
Populist Monarch of Feline Catfish
North East Somerset
25-04-2005, 20:13
OOC: I have been here from the start of posting and know exactly what is going on. FC acquired nuclear weapons at an early age so people threatened to attack him. Therefore he said if they attack he will use his nukes against him, after all that is what nukes are for! Therefore Paels argument has no relevance.
Aronian States
25-04-2005, 20:16
My country does not need nukes. we just fling moldy blocks of cheese at our foes.
Pael
25-04-2005, 20:17
OOC: I have been here from the start of posting and know exactly what is going on. FC acquired nuclear weapons at an early age so people threatened to attack him. Therefore he said if they attack he will use his nukes against him, after all that is what nukes are for! You argument has no relevance.

The World Ambassador agrees, and apologizes for the earlier misinterpretation, entire the fault of our nation. One must wonder about the sad state of the world when a nation is threatened by the mere acquisition of weaponry, and then invaded because said country stated that, because we now have weaponry, should you try to take it away from us by brute force, it will be employed.

Because your neighbor got a gun, you are justified in burning his house down? Or was the act of arson acceptable because your neighbor was only 20, and therefore "way too young to own a gun!" This is disgusting! Such nations were once hunted down and punished, nay, destroyed utterly for their belligerance. How low we have fallen.
North East Somerset
25-04-2005, 20:19
OOC: i'll agree with you on that!
Greater Valia
25-04-2005, 20:23
"Ah, how the dominos fall like a pack of cards. Checkmate. Great powers of the world take heed - this nation was scared off my a nation of a mere 8 million people and an economy which pales in comparison to those of other nations. The Imperialists have struck, the weak have arisen, and we shall have liberty!

King George III
Populist Monarch of Feline Catfish

Secret IC:

Telegram from the Foreign Ministry: While it would suit you to not be so arrogant in your boastings it appears that there is little that we can do in the way to stop you from this madness. We will therefore reopen diplomatic negotiations in the form of talks on nuclear non-proliferation in a pre designated area neutral to both of our nations. While you must realize that we are doing this in the intrest of world peace while other nations which were once considered respectable members of the global community have merely shrugged of in their own perverted intrests. With this final act of friendship between our two countries we please ask you to accept our invitation to this conference.

OOC: Older people, tell me something, why would FC want nukes if he wasnt planning on using them? Its clear he wants to use them as he so eloquently put it to, "nuke any fleet that comes cloe to my nation". And he claims their for defense. A monkey with one eye could see right through this scheme. This clearly shows how n00bish he is in thinking that anything of the sort would get him out of a naval war which he is fully aware that he would not win. Shame on you all...
North East Somerset
25-04-2005, 20:24
OOC: Why does anyone have nukes - as a strategic deterrant......
Makaar
25-04-2005, 20:24
OOC: WOW!!! Great post! I feel almost sad that I have to destroy your pathetic country! Er...sorry. Also, it wasn't my nuke, and I don't want my ships destroyed, so I am also ignoring it.

IC:
In blissful ignorance of the missile launch, the Makaarian fleet closed on the ports of Feline Catfish. As they did, they fired torpedoes at the ships in front of them. They were barely 100km from the FC shores. Closing, they broadcast a message.

"This is the HMMS Nimble, flagship of the Makaarian 1st Fleet. We are about to launch an invasion of your nation. Let it be known that we are willing to offer you a way out of this. We will turn back if you surrender under the following conditions:

1. You destroy 70% of your nuclear arsenal, and submit to inspections annually.
2. Makaar is willing to offer you full military protection if you comply with this condition.

Please, the Assembly of Makaar begs you to stop this. We do not want to be dragged into this war. We must fight, though. We await your reply."

As the fleet moved forwards, the Captain looked at one of the readouts. The lieutenant at the screen was panicking. He then slammed his fist down on a red button, setting klaxons off around the ship.

"Sir!" he cried, "Confirmed missile attack, bearing 010 mark 13, distance 103 km!" The captain rushed to the screen. "Bring the anti-missile cannons online. Ready all weapons, we have to shoot those missiles out of the sky! Signal the fleet to do the same! Load all the marines we can into the Chinooks, get them and the landing craft away!"

The lieutenant flicked a few switches, then pressed his earphones to his head. "Chinooks are loaded and taking off, sir. Landing craft are moving ahead."

Another lieutenant cried out, "Sir, there's 100 missiles headed for us...150...no, wait, I'm reading 200 missiles headed for our position! They're targeted for co-ordinates 512 mark 37 mark 00, and the computer works out they will hit the water there in 2 minutes, maybe less." He looked back at his screen. "They're nuclear missiles!" he cried. "All of them, nuclear missiles!"

The captain's eyes widened. "My god...when they hit the water, they'll detonate...signal all ships, emergency, full ahead. Helm, bring us to a full stop and launch all helicopters, fighters, everything we have. Get the men out on the decks with guns. We've got to destroy those missiles one way or another if we're going to succeed. Signal the Ticonderogas, tell them to launch their missiles in the path of those nukes, wide dispersal pattern. We should be able to knock a few out of the sky."

On the bridge, people worked the switchboards like crazy. As the captain watched, the rest of the fleet steamed ahead, pushing their engines to maximum efficiency. The Ticonderogas fired their missiles, which hit several of the nukes and reduced their numbers.

"Back us away, helm, one eighth," the captain ordered. The ship slowly backed away, until the readout gave the co-ordinates the missiles were aimed for.

"Full stop!" the captain ordered. He looked to his men. "Fire all anti-missile guns! Fire everything we have! Order the pilots to steer their jets in the way! Everything!"

The shots took down a large number of the missiles. As they closed in range, the ship opened up with everything it had. Pilots steered their jets into the missiles to bring them down. As they finally ran out of jets, there was only one missile left.

"We've run out of ammo!" one of the lieutenants cried. The captain ran down to the armoury and set one of the bombs. Then, sitting in the corner, he waited.

"Detonation in 10..."

So this was how it ended. The world slowed down as fear took control of the captain.

"9..."

He huddled in the corner, a broken wreck of a man, watching out of the port hole as the tiny dot got larger.

"8..."

It was visible now as a missile. Flying in a small approach angle, it was closing on the ship. Closing on him.

"7..."

He continued to watch. Fear gripped him as he began to cry. His wife, his daughter...they were about to lose him.

"6..."

He was about to lose him. He couldn't think of anything else to do. If his plan worked, the fleet should still be able to make it to the FC shores.

"5..."

If his plan worked. Hopefully, the ship would detonate late enough to destroy the missile, but early enough to stop it hitting its target co-ordinates.

"4..."

He had killed everyone on this ship. He had killed many people in Feline Catfish. He was a killer.

"3..."

So this is how it ends for the killer. The killer who hasthe blood of a thousand children on his hands.

"2..."

The soul taker's soul was about to be taken. He watched and listened for the countdown. There were people in the deck above him going crazy with fear.

"1..."

So was he. One second of life left. He prayed that his plan would work.

"0..."

There was an explosion. That was the last thing that he heard. He didn't know whether his plan succeeded or not.

It did. The explosion, while not neutralising the bomb completely, damaged the detonation mechanism. The bomb detonated, taking everything in a 5km radius with it, including the entire rear line of Ticonderoga class warships and several rows of troop transports. It vapourised the HMMS Nimble and the Ticonderogas, but some of the troop transports were able to make their way to the port, along with the Chinooks.

1,000 marines landed on FC shores...

OOC: OK, FC, what happens next is up to you. Just remember that my military exceeds yours by several million people, so it is unlikely that you would have any MAJOR defences on the port.
Zackaroth
25-04-2005, 20:30
OOC: so since i was not directly behind the nakkar fleet but was going into formatio all of my front ships are gone right??
Pael
25-04-2005, 20:32
OOC: Older people, tell me something, why would FC want nukes if he wasnt planning on using them? Its clear he wants to use them to as he so eloquently put it, "nuke any fleet that comes cloe to my nation". This clearly shows how n00bish he is in thinking that anything of the sort would get him out of a naval war which he is fully aware that he would not win. Shame on you all...

OOC: I know this nation is rather small, but I'm waiting/hoping for Skepticism to be resurrected, so I'll take a shot at your question.

1. What's wrong with wanting nuclear weapons to defend yourself? While FC was pretty damn rude and aggressive, he never threatened anyone, just acted like an annoying kid with a big stick. It's not exactly pleasant to watch, but nothing wrong with it.

2. N00bish thinking does not equal n00bish acting. Yes FC has behaved in a childish, perhaps even n00bish manner, although with somewhat better RP skills and more eloquence than most, but that does not give any nation a right to invade him. Otherwise the US would have invaded Cuba by now, along with the Netherlands, and South Africa. Just because you find a nation repugnant does not mean you should start killing its civilians.

3. FC is also playing a country with an absolute ruler. It could be that he/she is taking this into account with the manner of RP? Just because your king is crazy doesn't mean that you deserve to become a big crater.

4. I'm still hoping that FC takes the out, but that ain't exactly looking what you'd call likely. However it is still possible that this ends without ridiculous n00kification.

Sorry to clog the thread with this...

IC:

The Paeln rescue convoy is seriously cutting back the pace, hoping to avoid what looks like a neigh-inevitable conflict from embroiling them, and regretably preparing for the treatment of massive casualties and heavy radiation sickness.
North East Somerset
25-04-2005, 20:36
Admiral to Submarines:

Fire the 90 Tomahawks at the FC port and all neighbouring shoreline where Makaraan troops are landing. Once you have fired your cruise missiles join the rest of the NESN fleet in international waters.

Admiral Publicly:

The only hope for FC is if we kill the enemy troops landing on their island and then the FC citizens will be able to defend their island and use their 2100 nukes leftover to defend themselves! This is North East Somersets last act of defence for FC.

DESCRIPTION:
The submarines all surfaced simoultaneously, then their missile casings opened and all 15 launched 6 Tomahawk Cruise Missiles. The missiles raced towards the positions all along the coast of FC island. As the Makaraan troops got off their landing craft suffering only light fire from the FC positions (which alerted the admiral of the landing) they were unaware of what was about to hit and obliterate them.
Greater Valia
25-04-2005, 20:39
OOC: I know this nation is rather small, but I'm waiting/hoping for Skepticism to be resurrected, so I'll take a shot at your question.

1. What's wrong with wanting nuclear weapons to defend yourself? While FC was pretty damn rude and aggressive, he never threatened anyone, just acted like an annoying kid with a big stick. It's not exactly pleasant to watch, but nothing wrong with it.

2. N00bish thinking does not equal n00bish acting. Yes FC has behaved in a childish, perhaps even n00bish manner, although with somewhat better RP skills and more eloquence than most, but that does not give any nation a right to invade him. Otherwise the US would have invaded Cuba by now, along with the Netherlands, and South Africa. Just because you find a nation repugnant does not mean you should start killing its civilians.

3. FC is also playing a country with an absolute ruler. It could be that he/she is taking this into account with the manner of RP? Just because your king is crazy doesn't mean that you deserve to become a big crater.

4. I'm still hoping that FC takes the out, but that ain't exactly looking what you'd call likely. However it is still possible that this ends without ridiculous n00kification.

Sorry to clog the thread with this...



OOC: Ill answer your question. There is an established rule here that clearly states that no nation inder 100 million population can have nuclear weapons. Its as simple as that. And whats making me so disgusted with these supposedly "senior rpers" (you know who you are) is that not only are they condoning and going along with this little charade but that they have the audacity to sell/give him the technology to make his own, sell/give him actual weapons, and then to protect him and defend his clear violations of the II protocols sickens and disgusts me to no end.
Feline Catfish
25-04-2005, 20:48
OOC: Older people, tell me something, why would FC want nukes if he wasnt planning on using them? Its clear he wants to use them as he so eloquently put it to, "nuke any fleet that comes cloe to my nation". And he claims their for defense. A monkey with one eye could see right through this scheme. This clearly shows how n00bish he is in thinking that anything of the sort would get him out of a naval war which he is fully aware that he would not win. Shame on you all...
omgoggomgomg i am new playr so i mst be a idot omgogm i dndnt realise.!11 thankuy 4 teling m3! Of curse i am nt usin dem 4 defncse all they dd waz mssle my prts and stp t3h food imports wot a idit i am i cant rp shal i jus levave??21!?

Seriously, if all you have to say is that you're an older nation and so that means you know everything and you're ubar and pwny and I;m just a n00b who therefore has the intelligence of a 4 year old and isnt capable of doing anything other than what you think a n00b nation should do even though I've said something different in most of my 120 posts, then just leave this thread, because I'm really not interested. I'm not just going to roll over and die when I could save my nation just because u r t3h uber 2003 nation of pwniness.

Makaar: Thanks for the compliment and sorry for saying it was your ship... I satdn corrected. Anyway, I actually launched 200 missiles... not just one... perhaps overkill, but I needed to be sure of getting the entire bloackade. That and King George is pretty sure that the entire nation is going to be nuked to oblivion after this anyway.