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Corneliu Places TFU under Full Embargo and Blockade

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Corneliu
16-02-2005, 20:21
Vice President Anderson was standing in the anteroom. He was looking very nervous since he has never addressed the full Legislative body before. Three hours ago, President Server dispatched to him on what to do with The Fedral Union.

He looked over his speech again to make sure everything was in duck order. His aide stood next to him to offer assurances.

"Don't worry sir! You'll do fine. The President has full faith in you. If he didn't, you know he wouldn't send you to do this."

"I know Robert but I'm still not comfortable with this. TFU and us have been allies for far to long. Breaking off ties and placing this embargo plus a blockade? That is just asking for a military conflict."

"This is what the President wants. It'll pass too over the last incident that just ended."

"I know. That is the problem though. It was one incident."

"Anderson, its been more than one incident over the course of the centuries. This latest one was the last straw. Just maintain your nerves. Don't show them that you are nervous otherwise, they'll eat you alive. Anyways, your on."

At that moment, the announcer for the Congress walked past. "You ready Mr. Vice President?"

He looked over at his aide. "Yes I am!"

"Very well." He walked down the hall to his designated Point. "MR. SPEAKER! THE VICE PRESIDENT OF CORNELIU!"

As the applause erupted from the joint session of Congress, Vice President Anderson walked down the aisle shaking hands and nodding to the members of the Congress. When he reached the podium, he put his notes on the ledge and motioned for calm and silence.

"My fellow Corneliuans. I have been instructed by the President to issue the following statement. 'The Fedral Union has violated the terms of an outstanding treaty that we've signed before both of our nations have gone into space. They have threatened our National Security as well as those around them. It is time for it to end. Therefore, by the terms of the treaty, I am hereby desolving the terms of the treaty. In regards to this decision, I have made the decision to issue a full military blockade and embargo on TFU! No ships of TFU shall be allowed into Corneliuan Ports of Call and all of TFU is to be surrounded by a full military blocakde. I have also ordered the recall of our ambassador to TFU and have declared their ambassador to our country Persona Non Grata! Their agressive nature needs to end now. I am asking this body to approve of these measures that I have put forth to you. Thank You and may God be with you all.' That was the statement that I was asked to make. I will like to echo the President's sentiments. They have shown agressive tendencies and they need to learn the follies of such things. It is my hope as well that this Congress approves of these measures. Thank you and God go with you all."

As he left the podium, the Congress erupted into stern applause. Several Senators and Congressmen were stunned by the actions that the President wants. In the end, both Houses approved to the full Embargo and Military Blockade of TFU!

ECNN Breaking News

This is the Empire of Corneliu News Network with this late breaking news story. The Coneliuan Congress today approved of President Server's plan of a full embargo as well as a military blockade. As I am speaking, Corneliuan Naval forces led by Admiral Bush have left their home ports and are currently heading to TFU Space to follow the orders.

This has been an ECNN Breaking News Update
Corneliu
16-02-2005, 20:36
The Corneliuan 1st battle fleet jumps into normal space.

"All right people. Deploy the FTL inhibitors. You know where to place them."

In short order, the cruisers were deploying the FTL inhibitors up and down the TFU Border.

"This is Admiral Bush to TFU Government! I am hereby serving you that you are now officially under blockade and military embargo. Our ships are now monitoring the border of your space. Any and all ships will be stopped by the navy and intercepted by the planes."
Alexonium
16-02-2005, 20:42
The Emirate of Alexonium suggests that the Corneliuan government enlist its assistance to counterfeit its enemy's currency.
The Emperor Fenix
16-02-2005, 20:44
We reserve judgement on this action. Should, in the course of events, TFU be judged to be in the right, we shall defend it against all threat and attack. If not... we will see.

OOC: by course of events, i mean... well, we'll see wont we.
The Fedral Union
16-02-2005, 20:54
Diplomatic response:

The Union demands that you withdraw immediately , this is unfounded , If you do not withdraw with in 24 hours consequences will arise , we wish to negotiate with you but if you do not lift this blockade we shall consider it an act of aggression that will not be tolerated that is all ..


Several moments after the message was sent fleets along the border began forming up a total of 1500 ships 2,500,000 troops / marines , 8500 runabouts , moved in to positions opposite of the enemy blockade with in 13 hours .

On the swift strike :
Captain Bastidas was sitting in his chair as every one worked around the bridge. He sighed and looked over to his tactical officer who was calibrating targeting scanners , he said “ is the fleet ready?” , the tactical officer looked over and nodded “yes sir ,yes it is “ rob nodded and sat back waiting for a reply from the Corneliuian government .

The Fleet of ships slowly lined up on the border the massive fleet waiting.
CoreWorlds
16-02-2005, 20:56
OOC: Interesting...

IC:
"We are willing, as always to help defuse this situation before it become war." The State Department sent the open letter to both nations. "Should it become war, we shall remain neutral for the time being."
The Humankind Abh
16-02-2005, 21:01
The Empire of the Abh had just received a message from the Federal Union requesting military aid. The Third Fleet was mobilized lead by Admiral Spoor. The 111st Attack Squadron was accompanying them lead by the Basroil piloted by Princess Lafiel and Count Jinto. They were expected to arrive at the blockade in a couple of hours.
Alexonium
16-02-2005, 21:08
Alexonium was already counterfeiting Federal currency, and had already printed 10 billion.

1 note in 100 is given to three bankers so they can compare them real ones. None of the bankers could determine the difference, as the only security feature employed on Federal currency was intagio printing and a watermark, both of which, as far as the bankers or anyone else could tell, were 100% authentic!
The Fedral Union
16-02-2005, 21:09
Alexonium was already counterfeiting Federal currency, and had already printed 10 billion.

1 note in 100 is given to three bankers so they can compare them real ones. None of the bankers could determine the difference, as the only security feature employed on Federal currency was intagio printing and a watermark, both of which, as far as the bankers or anyone else could tell, were 100% authentic!

i dont use paper money ...
Alexonium
16-02-2005, 21:13
Hmmm...ordinarily that would mean effort being expended for naught, but by virtue of the fact that I used an original in there, I guess my post is invalid.
CoreWorlds
16-02-2005, 21:23
HNN BREAKING NEWS! President of Coreworlds summons Ambassadors to Executive Mansion to explain actions!

Tensions Rise Between Former Allies! Who Will Win? Details Inside!

Military Readiness Status Increased!

The holonet was positively buzzing with rumors of war between the two nations as the tensions rose. President Bryan Sandler was rumored to be making a statement after he meets with the ambassadors, but no word on what he will say yet.

The President himself paced back and forth in his office, waiting for the ambassadors to arrive.
The Emperor Fenix
16-02-2005, 21:27
The Okyton Empire condemns this action against the Fedral Union.

Military action against this peaceful diplomatic nation will lead to swift reatliation by Crassussian Forces.
The Fedral Union
16-02-2005, 21:43
bump
The Fedral Union
16-02-2005, 22:11
Ambassador Kerry hamerton will arrive shortly ,in CoreWorlds hopefully to broker peace.

(ooc in a rush have to study )
Corneliu
17-02-2005, 00:30
HNN BREAKING NEWS! President of Coreworlds summons Ambassadors to Executive Mansion to explain actions!

Tensions Rise Between Former Allies! Who Will Win? Details Inside!

Military Readiness Status Increased!

The holonet was positively buzzing with rumors of war between the two nations as the tensions rose. President Bryan Sandler was rumored to be making a statement after he meets with the ambassadors, but no word on what he will say yet.

The President himself paced back and forth in his office, waiting for the ambassadors to arrive.

Ambassador Erica Server arrives at the office of the President! "I am Erica Server, Ambassador to Coreworlds."
CoreWorlds
17-02-2005, 00:36
"Welcome, Ambassadors! Come and have a seat! Drink?" The President asked amicably.
Corneliu
17-02-2005, 00:38
Diplomatic response:

The Union demands that you withdraw immediately , this is unfounded , If you do not withdraw with in 24 hours consequences will arise , we wish to negotiate with you but if you do not lift this blockade we shall consider it an act of aggression that will not be tolerated that is all ..

We have full right to do what we are doing. You have violated the terms of the Featherston City Treaty regarding military build up on the borders of our two nations. You have placed ships on our border and when asked to remove them from our borders and you did not. If you want to negiotiate, we're all ears. As for the blockade, it stays till negotiations are over and a suitable compromise achieved.

Several moments after the message was sent fleets along the border began forming up a total of 1500 ships 2,500,000 troops / marines , 8500 runabouts , moved in to positions opposite of the enemy blockade with in 13 hours .

The Corneliuan Navy fleet has now increased in size from 400 to 1600 vessels with an additional fleet of 1600 more warships on the way. All with orders to maintain the blockade.

On the swift strike :
Captain Bastidas was sitting in his chair as every one worked around the bridge. He sighed and looked over to his tactical officer who was calibrating targeting scanners , he said “ is the fleet ready?” , the tactical officer looked over and nodded “yes sir ,yes it is “ rob nodded and sat back waiting for a reply from the Corneliuian government .

The Fleet of ships slowly lined up on the border the massive fleet waiting.

The small taskforce watches the fleet form up. "Send word that they are forming up opposite us."

"Yes sir."

As the messege was sent, the taskforce moves up to DEFCON 2 and the fighters prepared to launch.
Corneliu
17-02-2005, 00:39
"Welcome, Ambassadors! Come and have a seat! Drink?" The President asked amicably.

"You know full well that I don't drink Mr. President." Erica stated as she sat down. "Though I am glad to see you again. BTW, can you send word to Chronosia or Unified Sith that I wish an audience regarding the empire?"
Dontgonearthere
17-02-2005, 01:00
SECRET to The Federal Union:
So, you want military aide.
Our question is, how much are you willing to pay for it? We will (of course) include the standard %15 war discount, but we will have to charge a bit extra due to the risk of running the blockade.
As it is, we cannot give you direct military assistance, as many of our allies have a...strong dislike of you.

OOC:
As I recall, The Federal Union takes up quite a large area of space...how do you plan on blockading ALL of it? Even if you had 10,000 ships, it would be impossible.
Chronosia
17-02-2005, 01:11
The Imperium sent forth the finest of their diplomatic corp; not only a warrior; wise and ancient, standing as a terrible shadow over those under his command; but one of the true Space Marines of Chronosia. His eyes narrowed as the ship drew nearer; the click of his powerclaw against the throne, echoing through the ship as they drew near to Corneliu space. He would make peace; though he knew of the animosity between Corneliu and the Sith; the Ambasador knew that under Chronosia's wing, the Sith would become the last thought on Corneliu's mind. What was the old addage about friends and enemies?

Diplomatic Response:

The Imperium supports Corneliu in any way it can against the zealous fools of the Fedral Union; may the retribution be swift; the consequences severe; and let the talks of peace between our...old and bitter rivalry, be joined
Skeelzania
17-02-2005, 01:13
The Skeelzanian Sternreich will be monitoring this situation closely, as the Fedral Union's condition has much strategic importance for our Empire.

OOC: None of you happen to be part of the Galactic Empire or something, are you? I'm apparently ignored by them.
Chronosia
17-02-2005, 01:16
OOC: I'm a GE member, but I ignore no one! I love all who Rp and who will RP with me! You are welcome in our halls
Skeelzania
17-02-2005, 01:20
OOC: I'm a GE member, but I ignore no one! I love all who Rp and who will RP with me! You are welcome in our halls

OOC: Alright, I understand that its something between your leader and the ESUS. Anyway I'll be watching, Skeelzania has been thinking about going back into the Alpha quadrant.

IC:

The Skeelzanian Sternreich requests that we be allowed to send an observer to this conference. We will not demand anything, probably won't even take part. We simply would like to have some eyes and ears in the center of this storm.
CoreWorlds
17-02-2005, 01:23
"You know full well that I don't drink Mr. President." Erica stated as she sat down. "Though I am glad to see you again. BTW, can you send word to Chronosia or Unified Sith that I wish an audience regarding the empire?"
"Very well, we will send word. But that is not why I summoned you, Ambassador. I summoned you both because I need you to explain to me what the heck is going on over there." The President scowled at the two diplomats. "Why is Corneliu blockading The Fedral Union?"
CoreWorlds
17-02-2005, 01:24
OOC: Alright, I understand that its something between your leader and the ESUS. Anyway I'll be watching, Skeelzania has been thinking about going back into the Alpha quadrant.

IC:

The Skeelzanian Sternreich requests that we be allowed to send an observer to this conference. We will not demand anything, probably won't even take part. We simply would like to have some eyes and ears in the center of this storm.
Denied.
~State Department.

OOC: We still love to hate you. :p
Skeelzania
17-02-2005, 01:26
Denied.
~State Department.

OOC: We still love to hate you. :p

The Foreign Ministry responds with "we would threaten you with the eradication of the Coreworld enclave of Exante, except your weak genes proved unsatisfactory and they all died out years ago."

OOC: Figure that's the closest Skeelzania gets to a real "F you," diplomatically speaking.
The Fedral Union
17-02-2005, 01:27
SECRET to The Federal Union:
So, you want military aide.
Our question is, how much are you willing to pay for it? We will (of course) include the standard %15 war discount, but we will have to charge a bit extra due to the risk of running the blockade.
As it is, we cannot give you direct military assistance, as many of our allies have a...strong dislike of you.

OOC:
As I recall, The Federal Union takes up quite a large area of space...how do you plan on blockading ALL of it? Even if you had 10,000 ships, it would be impossible.
(ooc yes i do a verry large area i doubt he can )

the union would pay up to 2 trillion for suppourt against this enmmy this will not stop at replleing the blockade)

Kerry looked cold towards the other ambassador but courteously said “ my government wishes for you to withdraw your blockade and fleet , other nations that trade with us will consider you stopping them an act of war and we will support them , I will not sit down until your hostiles on your part have ceased , if you withdraw we will withdraw “

The fleet charged up its weapons and shields
Mirfak
17-02-2005, 01:38
The Dominion of Mirfak objects to this blockade and demands its immediate end, as it is interfering with commercial trade routes. The Alphin has personally given permission for Mirfakan ships to continue trading with The Fedral Union if they so wish, and to ignore the blockade. Any aggressive action taken against a nonmilitary (or, for that matter, military) Mirfakan ship will be seen as an act of war and dealt with accordingly by the Dominion and the international community at large.

OOC: Mirfakan starships don't use warp travel, so unless you can explain how your inhibitors block planespace travel they don't affect me as far as I'm concerned.
Dontgonearthere
17-02-2005, 02:06
(ooc yes i do a verry large area i doubt he can )

the union would pay up to 2 trillion for suppourt against this enmmy this will not stop at replleing the blockade)

Kerry looked cold towards the other ambassador but courteously said “ my government wishes for you to withdraw your blockade and fleet , other nations that trade with us will consider you stopping them an act of war and we will support them , I will not sit down until your hostiles on your part have ceased , if you withdraw we will withdraw “

The fleet charged up its weapons and shields
(OOC: Assuming the first part is directed at me)
Still secret:
Very well, we urge you to look at the GLACORP storefront, if you require anything aside from general supplying.
In the mean time, we have dispatched a number of blockade runners (OOC note: No, not the Star Wars ones) with food, ammunition and other essentials for warfare.
These are (as noted in our previous communication) unmarked. They will enter your space at the following coordinates, and send a tightbeam, coded transmission to their destination, we assume you will figure some way to provide clearance for them.
If such a destination world comes under blockade, please inform us so that we may change the ships course.
Penguenia
17-02-2005, 02:30
Source: Penguenian Trade Authority, Penguenia Alpha
To: The Armed Galactic Empire of Corneliu
Subject: Fedral Blockade Problems

This is an automated reactionary note of concern with regards to the aforementioned subject: The Penguenian Trade Authority is displeased that trade routes with the Fedral Union have been disrupted and asks that the blockade be lifted, or that Penguenian trade vessels be allowed to pass. Continued disruption of Penguenian capitalism will be responded to with more aggressive actions. Thank you.
Corneliu
17-02-2005, 02:56
"Very well, we will send word. But that is not why I summoned you, Ambassador. I summoned you both because I need you to explain to me what the heck is going on over there." The President scowled at the two diplomats. "Why is Corneliu blockading The Fedral Union?"

"He violated the Treaty of Featherstone City! A treaty that has stood for centuries and his latest belicuse acts have prompted us to desolve the treaty and to take action."
Iuthia
17-02-2005, 03:08
Interesting... while Iuthia may not be entirely FTL capable at this time we do occasionally like to know whats going on in nations we have contacts with and we feel it's important to note that blockading another nations territory (though I can't possible imagine how your nation is blockading the amount of space we're talking about, even for our FTL capable allies it's impossible) is concidered in the eyes of most nations to be an act of war.

Given that whatever treaty your nations had previously is now broken, we are surprised that your nation has failed to diplomatically resolve the situation and has instead blockaded TFU space, an action which in our eyes justifies TFU military reaction due to the fact that you have acted against them in such an aggressive manner.

Eitherway Iuthia will note Corneliu as the aggressor in this situation and continue to observe future progress to monitor further acts of aggression against a nation which has broken a diplomatic treaty but hasn't (as far as we've seen so far) directly threatened your nation.

Thanks,

Foriegn Minister Mick Lakely.
Neo Zeta
17-02-2005, 03:17
Neo Zeta demands the blockade be lifted at once. We are willing if we are asked by The Fedral Union to send in our 2nd Fleet to help them in anyway.
HFI ALPHA WING
17-02-2005, 03:17
At the edge of TFU space a slight ripple occurd as 15 hive ships well jumped into the system. The Moon sized central ship was surrounded by 13 royal guard and was accompanied by a single cargo ship just over half the size of the moon. They began moving towards the core of TFU space. Upon seeing the numerous vessels in the system the hive reacted accordingly across the massive skein of the mighty bioship electrostatic energy built up creating a sheild around the ship, a very new system to hive vessels.

open comms @ all ships:
We are the hive, we are perfection. Please state the nature of your being here.
We are the hive, we welcome you to us.

The royal guard spiraled out as a small arc of lighning rippled into space as weapon systems began to charge.

closed WET WARE comms @ TFU:
We are the hive, we are perfection: What is occuring here?

The human that had been plugged into the hive's node onboard a nearby ship turned to the TFU captain speaking for the first time, synaptic fluid leaking out of his mouth. The captain jumped and then rememberd the voice, the voice of his first ensign.

"Sir the hive wishes to know what is occuring in this sector."


The small wing of hive vessels began to move further in system.



OOC NOTE: I am HFI <Hive Fleet Imodius> I am unable to log in atm so have sent a query to NS to get HFI sorted, in the meanwhile as far as anyposts are concerned this is HFI.
Skeelzania
17-02-2005, 03:25
Secure Communiqué to Corneliu

"We don't know what the Fedral Union and Coreworlds may have said, but we assure you that Skeelzania is an honorable nation who feels for your situation. Often when a nation attempts to defend themself they are quickly labled the aggressor. The Fedral Union have always been warmongers, and simply giving in to a blockade is not their way. When the inevitable attack comes, Skeelzania offers Corneliu our support in ensuring the blockade remains in place."
Corneliu
17-02-2005, 03:31
Secure Communiqué to Corneliu

"We don't know what the Fedral Union and Coreworlds may have said, but we assure you that Skeelzania is an honorable nation who feels for your situation. Often when a nation attempts to defend themself they are quickly labled the aggressor. The Fedral Union have always been warmongers, and simply giving in to a blockade is not their way. When the inevitable attack comes, Skeelzania offers Corneliu our support in ensuring the blockade remains in place."

Secret comm back

We thank you for your support. We are in talks right now so nothing is going to happen yet!
The Fedral Union
17-02-2005, 04:27
Meanwhile the USS Jupiter (Jupiter Class)

Captain Kayborn was sitting at his desk sighing, he looked over to his Operations officer in his ready room and said “Have we found a weak point in there fleet yet?”, the ops officer looked over to Kayborn and shook his head “No but we should soon, Engineering reports that they’ve configured the new shield grid” Kayborn nodded and said “Keep me posted” as he addressed his padd (Personal Access Display Device), his Tactical officer shuffled in as the door whooshed open, he said “captain I need to talk to you”, captain Kayborn looked over from his report and said “What may I do you lieutenant?” as he swiveled over on his chair. The Tactical officer made a suggestion “I have a suggestion when we find this a weak po-” he was cut off as the Helms officer walked in and said “Sir we’ve found a suitable weak point on the border of allied space”, the Tactical officer said “good that’s part of my plan, I think we should go through allied space and run through the blockade from there”, the helms men looked over with a puzzled look “Wouldn’t that cause complications?”, the Tactical officer said “Well, assuming that they don’t concider this blockade to be the act of war that it is, they will not be prepared to attack and certainly not with such a large escort for this transport vessel, should they fire first we would be within our rights to return fire, I would suggest an independent observer be on board at during the attempt to further provide us cover against possible subversion of the truth, that way we have our bases covered.”. The Capitan swiveled over to Helm “Do it , Ops go tell the convoy to fallow us!”.

With that the Jupiter , whooshed out in a glorious stream of light in to Transwarp, its body extending a bit then going back to normal as it entered a greenish blue tube, the rest of the convoy fallowed. A few hours would pass but as soon as they dropped out they headed for the blockade. Slowly rushing towards empty space and beyond into allied space, not wanting to stop for anything.


The USS Cortez, the USS Galaxy, the USS Enterprise – E, the USS Hectate, the USS O’Brian, The USS Defiant, the USS Valiant, The USS Lakota, the USS Dragon, and the USS Riker were escorted the convoy of transport towards the blockade, the transports carrying food and other trade goods to the Humankind Abh. Seeing as Corneliu had a lot of space to cover with their FTL Inhibitors and space forces, it wasn’t hard for Tactical Officer to use long range scanners to read the FTLI fields and work out the weaker points along their boarders, in truth the amount of space that Corneliu had to cover would make their blockade almost pointless… they couldn’t have a large response force in every sector. With this information, a course was set and planned, there was no way Corneliu could bring forces to bear in one far out sector without pulling the resources from another sector, in which case another transport with smaller escort could make it’s move.
Huntaer
17-02-2005, 04:29
OOC: I'm a new G.E. member, so I haven't been able to help anyone in need. I wish to help all of the G.E. anyway possible.

"If the G.E. is broght uppon this threat, then Huntaer will seak to help aid you in anyway possible. My Kirtir (sith) warriors are battle ready if the need for any G.E. nation, or allied with the G.E. in some form, needs the support Huntaer has promised to bring." Lord Deshoonde stated.

"If he had indeed broken your treaty then your blockaid is perfictly legal. If TFU has anything to complain about, it's the fact he decided to be stupid. He should've thought twice before building up his forces around your borders."

"If the Fedral Union attacks Corneliu, huntaer will get involved. End transmission."
The Fedral Union
17-02-2005, 04:33
(deated)
Iuthia
17-02-2005, 04:34
"If he had indeed broken your treaty then your blockade is perfictly legal. If TFU has anything to complain about, it's the fact he decided to be stupid. He should've thought twice before building up his forces around your borders."

Blockade is an act of war and is automatically concidered an unwise action in the eyes of Iuthia when diplomatic routes were already open. Something as simple as an embargo would have sufficed, but to block vital trade routes with military vessals threatening to blow them out of the sky (as well as foriegn trade vessels I imagine give that blockades don't discriminate) then it's understandable that such a blockade will not be recieved well and is ulimately an act of aggression regardless of bias opinion from the G.E.

Foriegn Minister Mick Lakely.
Huntaer
17-02-2005, 04:57
"(OOC: Hopefully your right that this isn't about discrimination, if so, I'll definitly back down.)
TFU has already threatened Corneliu by bringing military ships to his boarders! That is an act of war! TFU had builed military vessels to blow them out of the sky! If Corneliu felt threatened, he has his rights as a nation to protect his country by blockaiding vital trade routes.

One other thing, we won't attack unless it's deemed necessary by the G.E. If a war isn't declared, huntaer will not get involved, and will let TFU and Corneliu handel this themselfs. If it is declared, then we will get involved. I will not attack otherwise."
Shadow Tech
17-02-2005, 05:01
"The recently ressurected fleets of the combined Shadow Tech states will be watching this conflict closely"

-Menalous Ter N'kriah, Foreign Minister of the Tritox Storm
Iuthia
17-02-2005, 05:07
You're comments contradict one another; on one hand you say that TFU has already declared war and a blockade is justified (justification is down to the individual by the way, as a individual nation we deem this action unjustified as diplomatic routes were still available) and on the other hand you claim that if war is declared you will get involved, though you have already stated that TFU has made an act of war.

Assuming you were refering to TFU moving forces to Corneliu's borders and not TFU moving forces to his own borders as we've just seen (as it's hard to tell with your sentance which you meant) then that in itself is simply a threat of action and isn't an act of war unless he acts upon it... afterall, he's outside of Corneliu's borders so he's not invading territory. I don't know about you but nations here on Earth have military assets on border edges all the time, though it is frowned upon and Iuthia has noted terrible diplomatic efforts made by the TFU in resent times... we ourselves are not particularly fond of this nation at this time.

However, justifying an act of war (blockade) becuase of a threat (not an act of war) still seems over the top. Especially seeing as if this is the case why is Corneliu wasting forces surrounding such a large region of space (and spreading their forces dangerously thin) instead of reinforcing their own borders? It doesn't really compute very well from what we can see.

Eitherway, it's clear that this won't be resolved without a much better diplomatic effort made on all sides, goodluck.

Foriegn Minister Mick Lakely
Corneliu
17-02-2005, 05:10
Meanwhile the USS Jupiter (Jupiter Class)

Captain Kayborn was sitting at his desk sighing, he looked over to his Operations officer in his ready room and said “Have we found a weak point in there fleet yet?”, the ops officer looked over to Kayborn and shook his head “No but we should soon, Engineering reports that they’ve configured the new shield grid” Kayborn nodded and said “Keep me posted” as he addressed his padd (Personal Access Display Device), his Tactical officer shuffled in as the door whooshed open, he said “captain I need to talk to you”, captain Kayborn looked over from his report and said “What may I do you lieutenant?” as he swiveled over on his chair. The Tactical officer made a suggestion “I have a suggestion when we find this a weak po-” he was cut off as the Helms officer walked in and said “Sir we’ve found a suitable weak point on the border of allied space”, the Tactical officer said “good that’s part of my plan, I think we should go through allied space and run through the blockade from there”, the helms men looked over with a puzzled look “Wouldn’t that cause complications?”, the Tactical officer said “Well, assuming that they don’t concider this blockade to be the act of war that it is, they will not be prepared to attack and certainly not with such a large escort for this transport vessel, should they fire first we would be within our rights to return fire, I would suggest an independent observer be on board at during the attempt to further provide us cover against possible subversion of the truth, that way we have our bases covered.”. The Capitan swiveled over to Helm “Do it , Ops go tell the convoy to fallow us!”.

With that the Jupiter , whooshed out in a glorious stream of light in to Transwarp, its body extending a bit then going back to normal as it entered a greenish blue tube, the rest of the convoy fallowed. A few hours would pass but as soon as they dropped out they headed for the blockade. Slowly rushing towards empty space and beyond into allied space, not wanting to stop for anything.


The USS Cortez, the USS Galaxy, the USS Enterprise – E, the USS Hectate, the USS O’Brian, The USS Defiant, the USS Valiant, The USS Lakota, the USS Dragon, and the USS Riker were escorted the convoy of transport towards the blockade, the transports carrying food and other trade goods to the Humankind Abh. Seeing as Corneliu had a lot of space to cover with their FTL Inhibitors and space forces, it wasn’t hard for Tactical Officer to use long range scanners to read the FTLI fields and work out the weaker points along their boarders, in truth the amount of space that Corneliu had to cover would make their blockade almost pointless… they couldn’t have a large response force in every sector. With this information, a course was set and planned, there was no way Corneliu could bring forces to bear in one far out sector without pulling the resources from another sector, in which case another transport with smaller escort could make it’s move.

The small taskforce in the area saw the massive array of ships.

"That is one heavy convoy Admiral."

"They can be taken out. Their ships are weaker than ours and our weapons more powerful. Jump to intercept."

Within minutes, they jumped and blocked the convoy. "By order of the President of Corneliu, you are ordered to turn back at once. Failure to comply will result in the use of force."
-Noir-
17-02-2005, 06:14
UMN Second Miltia Branch Headquarters - Information and Intelligence Division
Second Miltia, -Noir-

"Not again..." whinned one of the Intel Officers in charge of monitoring the activity going on in The Federal Union. "What has he gotten himself into?"

"I don't know...Must have pissed Corneliu off some how..." said his partner, as he lifted up his coffee mug to his lips to take a sip. "Should we start the writing the report?"

"Nah...All I know is that this thing is going to be big and long-winded...I suggest Tagging this incident and get the people in the Current Incidents section to take a look at this..." he yawned. "I think it's time for the next shift...Come on...Let's get ready to leave."

"Ah...Just a second...Let me finish writing the briefing...Once I get this message sent, then let's go..." said the second Intel officer.
Iuthia
17-02-2005, 08:01
Within minutes, they jumped and blocked the convoy. "By order of the President of Corneliu, you are ordered to turn back at once. Failure to comply will result in the use of force."

OOC: You know, a thought occured to me, if he's trying at FTL speeds (given that you couldn't cover all their space with FTL inhibitors as that would be a godmode given the amount of space you are covering) and your travelling at FTL speeds, how in hell do you get a force together large enough to deal with a convoy breaking out of the weakest point in a blockade which is covering alot of space, and more importantly, how do you reach there in time?

Tell me, how do you even have enough forces in the weakest point of your blockade covering all over TFU's borders in 3D space and still have enough military presence to provide military coverage in the rest of the blockade? Do you have sizable forces in every sector around TFU space? If so how come everyone complains that TFU's military is wank, but it's ok for you to have enough ships which are automatically better this his to be able to have a blockade around a space empire with many planets?

No wonder he doesn't learn much, you guys pull crap off like this when there is a half decent idea floating around.

Fuck it, I'm ignoring this thread... this is silly.
Xenonier
17-02-2005, 09:17
OOC: You know, a thought occured to me, if he's trying at FTL speeds (given that you couldn't cover all their space with FTL inhibitors as that would be a godmode given the amount of space you are covering) and your travelling at FTL speeds, how in hell do you get a force together large enough to deal with a convoy breaking out of the weakest point in a blockade which is covering alot of space, and more importantly, how do you reach there in time?

Tell me, how do you even have enough forces in the weakest point of your blockade covering all over TFU's borders in 3D space and still have enough military presence to provide military coverage in the rest of the blockade? Do you have sizable forces in every sector around TFU space? If so how come everyone complains that TFU's military is wank, but it's ok for you to have enough ships which are automatically better this his to be able to have a blockade around a space empire with many planets?

No wonder he doesn't learn much, you guys pull crap off like this when there is a half decent idea floating around.

Fuck it, I'm ignoring this thread... this is silly.

OOC: Agreed. However, I'd like to see Coneliu's justification for such events, so I'll hope for something better.

Well well well. I was at first rather impressed by the drive of corneliu to liberate it's allies from the likes of it's foes. I have seen few show the amount of dedication that presents, and you have my respect for it. However, this unfounded act of agression is disturbing.

Firstly, of major concern is your subborn adherence to a major treaty. Yes, TFU broke your borders - so what? OMG I BROKE HIS BORDERS I'M GOING TO CRY NOW. A blockade is essentially logistically impossible, given the TFU's size, and the small fact he hasn't actually taken to the agressor here. Military vessels moving happen all the time, having them with a declaration of hostile intent is another thing - exactly what you have done.

With this is mind, and our friendly terms with TFU, we ask you to step down. We are all aware of the hatred for TFU from certain forces, and this stinks of their bias. While you may feel secure now, if we are forced to join the conflict, consider this.

Because Conreliu, with your forces spread so thin as to blockade TFU. Also Consider Xenonian ships are the deadliest in the galaxy, yet so few in number. However, we can pick and place our targets. You face a logistical nightmare, in which TFU can harrass you up and down you line, and the Xenonians, if we ever hear any actions of you starting the conflict, can take your lines apart, piece by piece, as your primitive vessels struggle to even catch us or muster a sufficient resistance. I won't deny we are few, but you need to outnumber us at least three to one to even hope of inflicting minor damage. Your line would buckle, and TFU would massacre you before anyone even knew what was happening.

I don't want this to happen. Just make TFU pay for it's mistakes outside of you commit your forces to an intergalatic war. I don't want any part of it, and I'm sure neither do most sides. However, if you open fire on TFU military vessels for no reason, that is a delcaration of war with you as the agressor. Just back down and ask TFU for reparations.

If you choose a more diplomatic path for this, I will support your claims for reparation. If you choose war without reason, you shall have it.

Note. Acts of war that are unfounded do not include

*firing on blockade runners if you can prove they were a threat.
*reacting to TFU declaring war in diplomatic relations
*being forced into war by parliament consent.

Arkady Gregorovich - President Speaker Of Xenonier.
Chronosia
17-02-2005, 12:13
The threats of Xenonier are amusing and duly noted; however; any act of aggression by TFU or its allies, will result in a declaration of war by the Imperium; in order to reinforce Corneliu in its dark dark hour. TFU began the buildup of military forces on the borders of free nations, for nothing; there was no true threat; merely a plan to start a war. Now; we, the Imperium of Chronosia, are forced to take into consideration the opening of a war against the paranoid Xenos scum of the Union. The Galactic Empire has already been informed of the Unions complicity in the attacks on Coruscant, and as such...a call for war against them has been issued to Galactic Empire members. However; I see not the sense in acting yet, and so, my Empire shall bide its time; for Chaos works not along any true plan, but through opportunity, that arises as the Dark Gods will it.
- Marcus De Drakan
Daemon Emperor of the Chronosian Imperium.
Servant of Chaos Ascendant
Xenonier
17-02-2005, 12:30
The threats of Xenonier are amusing and duly noted; however; any act of aggression by TFU or its allies, will result in a declaration of war by the Imperium; in order to reinforce Corneliu in its dark dark hour. TFU began the buildup of military forces on the borders of free nations, for nothing; there was no true threat; merely a plan to start a war. Now; we, the Imperium of Chronosia, are forced to take into consideration the opening of a war against the paranoid Xenos scum of the Union. The Galactic Empire has already been informed of the Unions complicity in the attacks on Coruscant, and as such...a call for war against them has been issued to Galactic Empire members. However; I see not the sense in acting yet, and so, my Empire shall bide its time; for Chaos works not along any true plan, but through opportunity, that arises as the Dark Gods will it.
- Marcus De Drakan
Daemon Emperor of the Chronosian Imperium.
Servant of Chaos Ascendant

All we have said is that TFU shall be assisted by Xenonier if Corneliu is the agressor, nothing more. We oppose the blockade, but we support a diplomatic resoultion to this conflict in Corneliu's favour. We have no intention of fighting a war with Chronosia, or any other GE members. We are merely saying that if the first shot fired is by Corneliu, for no reason, then we shall act in defense of somebody who we have fought side-by-side upon in several occasions. You would do the same, I am sure of it.

After all, considering TFU was recently attacked by a hostile alien race, TFU's military buidlups do not suprise me in the slightest. Defending ones borders is a natural thing to do in a time of war.

Arkady Gregorovich - President Speaker of Xenonier.
Chronosia
17-02-2005, 12:38
Ah, but encroaching upon the borders of another, is a different matter. Are you saying that if the forces of Chronosia were at your borders you would not feel threatened? Are you telling me that you would attack one such as Corneliu, who has been threatened? You see with tinted vision friend; and your foolish wish to aid the Fedral Union, will result in your people being tested upon the anvil and the furnace of war. We advise you to reconsider your...hostile stance on these events.
-Marcus De Drakan
Daemon Emperor of Chronosia
Xenonier
17-02-2005, 12:55
Ah, but encroaching upon the borders of another, is a different matter. Are you saying that if the forces of Chronosia were at your borders you would not feel threatened? Are you telling me that you would attack one such as Corneliu, who has been threatened? You see with tinted vision friend; and your foolish wish to aid the Fedral Union, will result in your people being tested upon the anvil and the furnace of war. We advise you to reconsider your...hostile stance on these events.
-Marcus De Drakan
Daemon Emperor of Chronosia

Enroaching on the borders of another. To answer your question - would I feel threatened? Absolutely not. I would endeavour to gather as much information as I could before making the decision you were a real threat, should you ever do such a thing. There are many reasons you could be making such an action, thousands - millions! Probabilties and countermeasures much be developed before action is taken. A single misunderstanding can start a war.

With this in mind, we do support Corneliu's right to have reparations for TFU's actions. I won't deny otherwise. However, War - merely for this? Wars have happened for less, but this would be a gross waste of lives and materials for nothing more than a ... misunderstanding. If Corneliu strikes first, we will, like Iuthia, take that as the act of agression.

As for this assumption of an "hostile" stance - we take no such action. We take a reactionist stance, threatening nobody, but standing by should people be attacked. Alliances do this every day.

Things that break treaties are sometimes nessecary. Actions that break agreements are sometimes nessecary. This is how the world works - sometimes things that are right, are not always popular. As always, innocent until proven guilty. Get me the proof TFU planned an attack, and we'll believe you. Data provides infalliable answers, not words. As for the Galactic Empire and it's call to arms, we will not stand in the way of that. If my information on that incident is correct, the responce is justified. Corneliu is perfectly capable of following the same course, without us lifting an eyelid.

However, in the mean time, I have seen, with my own two eyes, TFU threatened by the Cassopeia Galaxy. That has been their most recent conflict and with this is mind, their only proven reason for mobilisation. Prove otherwise, as I can prove the existance of the hostile species (Now pacified) and where they attacked. This is a perfectly legitimate reason to start looking outside ones borders for a possible attack from the same species. If you want such information, it can be sent.

Arkady Gregorovich - President Speaker of Xenonier.
Divine Predecessors
17-02-2005, 14:03
His Divine Shadow found it... Amazing, to say the least.

Enough FTL inhibitors to secure thousands of squarelightyears. Movements of entire fleets within days, no, hours.

And why the hell did one claim borders in open, completely open space? Space that could only be controlled with billions of ships, and even then, just barely.

Why they weren't using simple system defences, treating systems like islands, acknowledging the vastness and the three-dimensional nature of space, well, this was completely beyond His Divine Shadow.

Only complete fools, utter maniacs would try to work in space like one would work with landmasses. the two were just too different. Heck, a twelve year old should know better.

However, apparently, a good amount of the spacedwellers out there seemed to disagree.

Easy prey. His Divine hadow thought.

They will fall.
TheBrunnenG
17-02-2005, 14:14
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Corneliu
17-02-2005, 14:31
OOC: You know, a thought occured to me, if he's trying at FTL speeds (given that you couldn't cover all their space with FTL inhibitors as that would be a godmode given the amount of space you are covering) and your travelling at FTL speeds, how in hell do you get a force together large enough to deal with a convoy breaking out of the weakest point in a blockade which is covering alot of space, and more importantly, how do you reach there in time?

I guess you don't know about breaking the fleet off into smaller portions to cover a certian area?

Tell me, how do you even have enough forces in the weakest point of your blockade covering all over TFU's borders in 3D space and still have enough military presence to provide military coverage in the rest of the blockade? Do you have sizable forces in every sector around TFU space? If so how come everyone complains that TFU's military is wank, but it's ok for you to have enough ships which are automatically better this his to be able to have a blockade around a space empire with many planets?

Did I say I had enough forces? No I did not. I said a small force. It isn't big by any streatches of the imagination. I know what I can and cannot get away with and as for TFU, well noone likes likes because of past incidentences that he actually has learned from.

No wonder he doesn't learn much, you guys pull crap off like this when there is a half decent idea floating around.

He actually has learned quite alot but political repercussions isn't one of them.

Fuck it, I'm ignoring this thread... this is silly.

Be a sport
Divine Predecessors
17-02-2005, 14:50
I guess you don't know about breaking the fleet off into smaller portions to cover a certian area?Very, very oocly: I am not sure how long/ wide the border is. But still...

Lets assume one system for each of you, so that just... Corners of each others 'territory' touch each other. This being the smallest possible border.

Given the average distance between stars (I use earth & nearby systems as example, closer to the galactic core, the distance is smaller), uh... about 4 lightyears, lets say, well, two lightyears in each direction.

That's roughly 19 trillion kilometers.

now, annoyingly, space is threedimensional. As such, the border is two dimensional. An area. Which makes it squarelightyears/ kilometers.

16 squarelightyears or approximately 3.5e26 squarekilometers.

Now, to effectively blockade the area... And assuming that you're stupid enough to believe that a single layer is enough (It isn't.), furthermore assuming that your ships are capable of finding, following and engaging targets over significant distances AND assuming that you don't care about opposing fleet concentrations blowing single ships of yours apart without facing significant resistance...

Well, one ship every 6 mio kilometers, 3mio km radius to fire at targets/ find them... yeah, that should work nicely. I mean, engaging over a distance of 10 lightseconds works, no?

Now... Then you need only about... Well, slightly less than 10 trillion (yes, trillion) ships. (And FTL Inhibitors, to block the area, assuming that they work over a distance of 3mio km)

Yeah, sure, works out.

Of course, if the border is longer/ wider, if you want fleet concentrations to prevent a violent breakthrough, or if you want ships staying at home, or a layered blockade grid to be efficient... You need more.

I have to say... Your industrial capacities are amazing.
Dontgonearthere
17-02-2005, 15:01
Very, very oocly: I am not sure how large the border is.
...
<snip>
OOC:
I have to say this. Its impossible to resist.
OWN-ED.
Xenonier
17-02-2005, 15:14
OOC:
I have to say this. Its impossible to resist.
OWN-ED.

Quoted For Emphasis.

Anyway OOC:

Is this actually progressing anywhere Corneliu? Because TFU is going to have a field day slipping past your blockade.
Divine Predecessors
17-02-2005, 15:30
Oh, and upon rereading, blockading the entirety of TFU space, rather than an undefined bit of border would of course increase the necessary amount of ships (And FTL Inhibitors) by... A few orders of magnitude. Try, uh... One quadrillion?
Dontgonearthere
17-02-2005, 15:34
ICly:
Having now arrived at various points in the TFU boarder, the sleeked and stealthed out ships of the GLACORP blockade running fleet halted, made their breif transmissions and sped on.
Naturaly a few encountered FTLi areas, but being stealthed and quite small, the ships simply continued on at sublight speed. Most were simply supplies, food, fuel, ammunition, but one or two had a very...interesting cargo.
Namely a dissasembled GC-5500 'planetbusting' laser and production plans.

OOC:
GC-5500 laser:
Updated GC-5000 laser, which is a scaled down DeathStar laser :P
The GC-5500 is less focused than a GC-5000 laser, making it more effective in ship to ship combat.
Most anything that is hit with it is going bye-bye.

If you can detect these ships, your must have come prepared.
Basicaly the cloak stops all outgoing energy, and allows incoming stuff to pass through, which means your either looking for disturbed hydrogen molocules, or the ships gravity signature, both of which would require detailed, close up observation of the exact area it passed through.
Of course, the ships cant see anything while cloaked, but I doubt they would just sort of bump into your fleet.
The Cassiopeia Galaxy
17-02-2005, 15:50
The Republic of The Cassiopeia Galaxy has declared that it will stay out of this War, but if any of our Cargo Ships are destroyed by any Side, We will Declare war one the side whos ship attacked ours.
Skeelzania
17-02-2005, 16:45
OOC: The only viable blockade in FT is a planetary or close blockade, where you actually have ships in the system instead of out in open space. Of course this is a much more hostile action.

Unless the other player utilizies jump gates or needs some sort of real route to travel at FTL speeds (think hyperspace from BFG), then you could blockade a nation much easier.

Frankly just pouring across the border and forcing a decisive battle is my preferred option.
The Fedral Union
17-02-2005, 17:18
OOC: You know, a thought occured to me, if he's trying at FTL speeds (given that you couldn't cover all their space with FTL inhibitors as that would be a godmode given the amount of space you are covering) and your travelling at FTL speeds, how in hell do you get a force together large enough to deal with a convoy breaking out of the weakest point in a blockade which is covering alot of space, and more importantly, how do you reach there in time?

Tell me, how do you even have enough forces in the weakest point of your blockade covering all over TFU's borders in 3D space and still have enough military presence to provide military coverage in the rest of the blockade? Do you have sizable forces in every sector around TFU space? If so how come everyone complains that TFU's military is wank, but it's ok for you to have enough ships which are automatically better this his to be able to have a blockade around a space empire with many planets?

No wonder he doesn't learn much, you guys pull crap off like this when there is a half decent idea floating around.

Fuck it, I'm ignoring this thread... this is silly.



(OOC) Chronosia what ever sith did I ignore, and that’s final. At any rate I am going at FTL I doubt you can block me unless your at trans warp . BTW my space is approximtly 8,800 light years)

Mean wile the fleet had went threw the blockade and dropped out of Transwarp just out side it , there engines needed to recharge after several seconds super high speed (took point .001 seconds to get on the other side ), the ships formed up and started rumbling out towards space at half impulse, waiting for there FTL drives to charge up so they could jump again , the Jupiter and other escort ships were in front and on the tail end of the convoy scanning for attackers.:

Kayborn sighed and started talking” well I hope things go smoothly, grandinco set a Crouse for friendlily space as soon as the FTL is charged up engage”.
Iuthia
17-02-2005, 17:33
I guess you don't know about breaking the fleet off into smaller portions to cover a certian area?

Odd, I was kinda assuming your fleet was broken into smaller portions... otherwise how the hell are you even getting close to covering the kind of area we are talking about... as pointed out above the amount of space you are looking at is obcene. Being a sport I assumed you spread your forces incredibly thin... because if you don't then there won't just be holes in your blockade, there will be entire sections from which TFU will just fly through without any problems.

So yeah, your whole blockade is stupid... I said it in MSN and it's been repeated by others who have proven that the amount of space you have to cover is so much that it would trouble even Star Wars for a blockade of an entire empire. They only blockaded planets because it's a whole lot easier.
Corneliu
17-02-2005, 18:56
Quoted For Emphasis.

Anyway OOC:

Is this actually progressing anywhere Corneliu? Because TFU is going to have a field day slipping past your blockade.

I'm 1) Waiting a response from him regarding an intercept
2) Waiting on Coreworlds for diplomatic talks
3) Yes it will!
Corneliu
17-02-2005, 18:58
(OOC) Chronosia what ever sith did I ignore, and that’s final. At any rate I am going at FTL I doubt you can block me unless your at trans warp . BTW my space is approximtly 8,800 light years)

Mean wile the fleet had went threw the blockade and dropped out of Transwarp just out side it , there engines needed to recharge after several seconds super high speed (took point .001 seconds to get on the other side ), the ships formed up and started rumbling out towards space at half impulse, waiting for there FTL drives to charge up so they could jump again , the Jupiter and other escort ships were in front and on the tail end of the convoy scanning for attackers.:

Kayborn sighed and started talking” well I hope things go smoothly, grandinco set a Crouse for friendlily space as soon as the FTL is charged up engage”.

OOC: someone got Intercept TFU! Better respond or I'll just assume that your ignoring my hail.
Corneliu
17-02-2005, 20:04
(OOC) Chronosia what ever sith did I ignore, and that’s final. At any rate I am going at FTL I doubt you can block me unless your at trans warp . BTW my space is approximtly 8,800 light years)

I never said that you couldn't travel inside your territory! Outside of it though maybe a bit dangerous!

Mean wile the fleet had went threw the blockade and dropped out of Transwarp just out side it , there engines needed to recharge after several seconds super high speed (took point .001 seconds to get on the other side ), the ships formed up and started rumbling out towards space at half impulse, waiting for there FTL drives to charge up so they could jump again , the Jupiter and other escort ships were in front and on the tail end of the convoy scanning for attackers.:

Kayborn sighed and started talking” well I hope things go smoothly, grandinco set a Crouse for friendlily space as soon as the FTL is charged up engage”.

The small group of ships that moved to the sector of space (5 ships in all) spots the convoy jumping out. The move in to intercept!

"This is the Corneliuan Blockading Group 7 to TFU Vessels. You are ordered to turn back at once. Failure to compy will result in deadly force."
The Fedral Union
17-02-2005, 20:36
One rash convoy captain said “Up yours”

Kay born responded on the Jupiter “we will not yield to you if you fire on us and our convoy we will respond in force do not tempt us “ the convoy continued on as the combat ships covered there behinds with there shields and weapons up
CoreWorlds
17-02-2005, 20:40
"He violated the Treaty of Featherstone City! A treaty that has stood for centuries and his latest belicuse acts have prompted us to desolve the treaty and to take action."
"Ambassador Server. Excuse me for my bluntness, but a blockade is in effect, an act of war. Treaty-breaking does not require a blockade unless President Server's intentions are to engage in warfare against the Fedral Union." President Sandler said. "I implore your government to end the blockade against the Fedral Union."

As requested, a copy of the treaty was faxed into the President's Office, and he took a look at the relevent, highlighted parts.
The Fedral Union
17-02-2005, 20:44
"Ambassador Server. Excuse me for my bluntness, but a blockade is in effect, an act of war. Treaty-breaking does not require a blockade unless President Server's intentions are to engage in warfare against the Fedral Union." President Sandler said. "I implore your government to end the blockade against the Fedral Union."

Kerry humphed and said “Corneliu dose not know what its getting in to , besides our trade is barley stunted by the blockade there are a lot of holes and weak points that convoys are going threw , normally if he dose not end this we will end it by force we are willing to negotiate but only after he ends this blockade. “
Klington
17-02-2005, 20:45
Admiral Tasak walked back and forth on the bridge of his ship. He looked up and took an abrupt stop. He than ordered, "Prepare a course for TFU space. We have been ordered to enforce a.... 'blockade.'", he said blockade as if it was the most vial thing in the world, he continued to shake his head.
The Bridge officer began to hit buttons on his operation panel, and suddenly held down a bright green button and spoke into his speaker, "We have been ordered to move to TFU space for a blockade, coordinates are 1746-T7."

At that moment a man burst through the bridge door. He was medium-sized with old-squinted eyes. An old model Pistol lay on his hip. His boots, belt-buckle, and buttons were polished to perfection, and his pants where folded perfectly so as to make a junction between his legs and his boots. His name was General George Nixon.
He walked up to Admiral Tasak and thundered, "What the fuck are we doing here!?! Those goddamned TFU idiots just had to start a godforsaken war! We can't have these Goddamned yellowbellies starting a war, when we got the GE right on ass! Those bayonets are meant to go in the belly of a Sith Bastard! Not a TFU idiot!"
"Hahahaha! I know how you feel George, but we just gotta do what we gotta do." Admiral Tasak Chuckled.
"Well we better do it fast, and when I say fast Tasak, My plan doesnt involve a blockade or an embargo. The fastest way to get to the Goddamned GE is to go straight through Terran Prime(TFUs Capital). And Im telling you Im going to shoot that son-of-an-asshole-bitch President Rob Bastidas myself! Just like I'd shoot a snake. We gotta kill these Idiots before they start to breed and ruin the rest of the galaxy with there idiocy! Lets just hope they start to show signs of some goddamn intelligence before I get real pissed and start to formulate my plan to take um out!"
Grand Admiral Tasak replied, "I agree, but they are allies, and we made need them with the GE, lets hope that Intelligence shows up soon."
General Nixon said, "Poor bastards better pray, I can't see any other way that they'll get some brains anytime soon."
HFI ALPHA WING
17-02-2005, 20:45
The hive had recieved no responce from either its ally's or the unrecognised ships in the sector, fearing the worst they began to summon the fleet to this sector. Part of the alliance with TFU ment that should TFU fall then their space became part of the hive's. Thus the hive would make its claim.

open comms from HFI to ALL vessels in this sector:
We are the hive, we are perfection. You are in hive space please prepare to be boarded.

At this 1,000km from every cluster of ships within tfu space that were not tfu ships a norn queen and her escourt arrived. The moon sized ships rippled to life thousands of swarm fighters spewing out into space from each one the 13 royal guard affiliated to each of the greater hive ships swiriling around locking onto targets.

Deep in TFU space a moon's surface began to crack appart as another hive ship awoke breaking out of the shell that was the moons upper crust it moved deeper into TFU space scanning and sending messages on all TFU bandwith's

"We are the hive, We are perfecton. TFU please respond failure to do so will result in activation of issue 195827.21G of the Alliance trade aggreement.
We are the hive, we welcome you to us."


ooc> 195827.21G: The realease of harvester spores onto all major populations should TFU be comprimised in any way.
CoreWorlds
17-02-2005, 20:55
ooc> 195827.21G: The realease of harvester spores onto all major populations should TFU be comprimised in any way.
OOC: Corneliu usually ignores WMDs of that scale. If it's one planet, that's ok.
Klington
17-02-2005, 20:57
The hive had recieved no responce from either its ally's or the unrecognised ships in the sector, fearing the worst they began to summon the fleet to this sector. Part of the alliance with TFU ment that should TFU fall then their space became part of the hive's. Thus the hive would make its claim.

open comms from HFI to ALL vessels in this sector:
We are the hive, we are perfection. You are in hive space please prepare to be boarded.

At this 1,000km from every cluster of ships within tfu space that were not tfu ships a norn queen and her escourt arrived. The moon sized ships rippled to life thousands of swarm fighters spewing out into space from each one the 13 royal guard affiliated to each of the greater hive ships swiriling around locking onto targets.

Deep in TFU space a moon's surface began to crack appart as another hive ship awoke breaking out of the shell that was the moons upper crust it moved deeper into TFU space scanning and sending messages on all TFU bandwith's

"We are the hive, We are perfecton. TFU please respond failure to do so will result in activation of issue 195827.21G of the Alliance trade aggreement.
We are the hive, we welcome you to us."


ooc> 195827.21G: The realease of harvester spores onto all major populations should TFU be comprimised in any way.


OOC: Your a little too young buddy to be pushing your weight around, and you having moon-sized ships is bull, especially at that age. And on another note, You dont want to attack anyone in this situation, otherwise you will cause a war, which we are trying to avoid. (Except for General Nixon :p )
The Fedral Union
17-02-2005, 21:15
At the edge of TFU space a slight ripple occurd as 15 hive ships well jumped into the system. The Moon sized central ship was surrounded by 13 royal guard and was accompanied by a single cargo ship just over half the size of the moon. They began moving towards the core of TFU space. Upon seeing the numerous vessels in the system the hive reacted accordingly across the massive skein of the mighty bioship electrostatic energy built up creating a sheild around the ship, a very new system to hive vessels.

open comms @ all ships:
We are the hive, we are perfection. Please state the nature of your being here.
We are the hive, we welcome you to us.

The royal guard spiraled out as a small arc of lighning rippled into space as weapon systems began to charge.

closed WET WARE comms @ TFU:
We are the hive, we are perfection: What is occuring here?

The human that had been plugged into the hive's node onboard a nearby ship turned to the TFU captain speaking for the first time, synaptic fluid leaking out of his mouth. The captain jumped and then rememberd the voice, the voice of his first ensign.

"Sir the hive wishes to know what is occuring in this sector."


The small wing of hive vessels began to move further in system.



OOC NOTE: I am HFI <Hive Fleet Imodius> I am unable to log in atm so have sent a query to NS to get HFI sorted, in the meanwhile as far as anyposts are concerned this is HFI.

A foolish nation is attempting to blockade us , if you want to assist be our guest
Klington
17-02-2005, 21:21
A foolish nation is attempting to blockade us , if you want to assist be our guest

Sure, as long as he doesnt Godmod again.
Corneliu
17-02-2005, 21:22
One rash convoy captain said “Up yours”

Another brash captain said "F*** You"

Kay born responded on the Jupiter “we will not yield to you if you fire on us and our convoy we will respond in force do not tempt us “ the convoy continued on as the combat ships covered there behinds with there shields and weapons up

"They're not slowing Captain."

"Very well. Fire off a warning shot across their bow."

"Yes sir. Firing control, this is the bridge. Fire off on shot across their bow."

At that moment, a shot rang out and it zipped across the bow of the convoy.
Corneliu
17-02-2005, 21:25
"Ambassador Server. Excuse me for my bluntness, but a blockade is in effect, an act of war. Treaty-breaking does not require a blockade unless President Server's intentions are to engage in warfare against the Fedral Union." President Sandler said. "I implore your government to end the blockade against the Fedral Union."

"Mr. President! You know full well that he is a warmonger and always threatening other nations. He sticks his nose where it doesn't belong and doesn't understand political repercussions of said mistakes. The lastest one being, ignoring our call to move his fortifications away from our board since we considered it a security threat to us. We warned them what we would do if they didn't remove them." Erica stated abit harshely. She turned to the ambassador. "We want a full public apology as well as recompence for what you put us through. Then and only then will the blockade be lifted."
Corneliu
17-02-2005, 21:28
Kerry humphed and said “Corneliu dose not know what its getting in to , besides our trade is barley stunted by the blockade there are a lot of holes and weak points that convoys are going threw , normally if he dose not end this we will end it by force we are willing to negotiate but only after he ends this blockade. “

Erica Server, the wife of Admiral John Server, bristled at Kerry's statement. "We do know full well what we're getting into. You have no idea what we can do. We want to negotiate as well but the blockade stands."
The Fedral Union
17-02-2005, 21:40
Bester said “ they want to play warnings we’ll play warnings , fire a quantum resonance beam across there bow , also 2 or 3 torpedoes “ , with that the tactical officer started pressing buttons like mad , the Jupiter charged up its arrays and a blue crimson beam shot out just missing its targets with the torpedoes not far behind , it totally dismasted a near by asteroid in to quarks .

the convoy continued moving.
CoreWorlds
17-02-2005, 21:42
The President sat back, letting the Ambassadors snipe at each other while he chews his mind over the situation. "Then I will say this, neither of you are innocent in this situation this time. President Bastidas must publically apologize and remove all military forces and fortifications from the border. President Server must remove the blockade from the Fedral Union. The Senate has just passed a resolution condemning both sides for the escalations and is now debating action to take in this situation. Your constant saber-rattling has gone too far and we are at the limits of our patience with the both of you."
Corneliu
17-02-2005, 21:47
Bester said “ they want to play warnings we’ll play warnings , fire a quantum resonance beam across there bow , also 2 or 3 torpedoes “ , with that the tactical officer started pressing buttons like mad , the Jupiter charged up its arrays and a blue crimson beam shot out just missing its targets with the torpedoes not far behind , it totally dismasted a near by asteroid in to quarks .

the convoy continued moving.

"Well that was interesting. Fire off a second round of shots and park this one very close to the ships without harming them."

Another round of shots, 4 in all, and this time ended very close to the ships but did not damage them. "This is your final warning! Turn back now!"
Corneliu
17-02-2005, 21:50
The President sat back, letting the Ambassadors snipe at each other while he chews his mind over the situation. "Then I will say this, neither of you are innocent in this situation this time. President Bastidas must publically apologize and remove all military forces and fortifications from the border. President Server must remove the blockade from the Fedral Union. The Senate has just passed a resolution condemning both sides for the escalations and is now debating action to take in this situation. Your constant saber-rattling has gone too far and we are at the limits of our patience with the both of you."

Erica Server nodded. "That can be done. As for you running out of patince, your not a doctor."
CoreWorlds
17-02-2005, 21:50
An Imperial Star Destroyer sector fleet reverted to realspace at the location of the border war in question. Under orders to monitor the situation and report back to Tenetia, the force will not engage anyone unless it is engaged itself. The presence of 6 powerful ships and their escorts here means that Coreworlds is taking a serious interest in this.

"Sir? We just recieved the latest scans." The sensor officer aboard the Serpent's Fang, the commandship, reported.

"What is it?"

"Weapons discharge from TFU, sir. Just destroyed an asteroid."

"Really?" Things are getting exciting here...
The Fedral Union
17-02-2005, 21:51
The lead Freighter C & C’ed all others “keep moving ignore them “ another convoy jumped out and started moving behind the first convoy ,

The Jupiter moved in front of the lead ship the other escorts blocking Corneliuian vessels now.
Corneliu
17-02-2005, 21:54
The lead Freighter C & C’ed all others “keep moving ignore them “ another convoy jumped out and started moving behind the first convoy ,

The Jupiter moved in front of the lead ship the other escorts blocking Corneliuian vessels now.

A quick hail as sent for re-enforcements as the ships prepared to fire. "Fire off a radiation torpedo. That should disrupt their drive capabilities."

At that moment, rarely used radiation torpedoes was fired from two of the ships. As they detonated, Radiation flooded the space it detonated in. According to the manuels, its radiation will not last long.

"I say again. STOP AT ONCE!"
CoreWorlds
17-02-2005, 21:56
Erica Server nodded. "That can be done. As for you running out of patince, your not a doctor."
"Very good. Mr. Ambassador?" he turned to the ambassador from The Fedral Union.

"Well that was interesting. Fire off a second round of shots and park this one very close to the ships without harming them."

Another round of shots, 4 in all, and this time ended very close to the ships but did not damage them. "This is your final warning! Turn back now!"
"Another discharge, from Corneliu!"

"What are they doing, playing tag?" The Captain asked, a bit of a joke. "Keep scanning. We need to keep this accurate."

"Yes, sir."
The Fedral Union
17-02-2005, 21:58
(how the hell dose it worK? explaine it )

Kayborn sighed and “said that’s it!, all ships fire! On Corneliuian ships!“ with that Phaser, arrays quantum resonance arrays ,and torpedoes were moved to fire status . the Jupiter discharged quantum resonance fire extremely fast powerful beams of blue crimson fire were directed at multiple ships , photon , and quantum torpedoes flew out from all directions towards multiple ships , the other escorts fallowed suites there phasers and torpedoes targeting multiple ships and there weak sections.
CoreWorlds
17-02-2005, 22:00
The lead Freighter C & C’ed all others “keep moving ignore them “ another convoy jumped out and started moving behind the first convoy ,

The Jupiter moved in front of the lead ship the other escorts blocking Corneliuian vessels now.

"Looks like they're trying to run the blockade. It's going to be bad, looks like."

"Mmm." The captain grunted. "Very well. Keep to yellow alert. Raise shields, I don't want a stray shot hurting us."

"Yes, sir!"

The Imperial Star Destroyers then began to raise their shields, in anticipation of a shootout.

A quick hail as sent for re-enforcements as the ships prepared to fire. "Fire off a radiation torpedo. That should disrupt their drive capabilities."

At that moment, rarely used radiation torpedoes was fired from two of the ships. As they detonated, Radiation flooded the space it detonated in. According to the manuels, its radiation will not last long.

"I say again. STOP AT ONCE!"

"BIG discharge from Corneliu, sir! They're serious this time!"

"Dammit. This isn't looking good."
Klington
17-02-2005, 22:02
Admiral Tasak recieved a message from Corneliu ships asking for Backup. He nodded slowly as he read the message. "Move to Coordinates 3426-W8, we need to offer backup to are Corneliu allies. Remeber, Klington ships only fire one warning shot, if not heeded, we will open up on the enemy." And with that 2 of Klingtons Ships went through Hyperspace to the Sector. As they arrived, Tasak ordered his men to open up a comlink with the blockade runners. "We Klingtonians, while merciful, only give one chance for mercy. If you do not heed us, we will wipe you from the face of the galaxy."
He then looked down at an officer, "Fire one warning shot at the enemy."
"This is your last chance, take it or die."
Klington
17-02-2005, 22:10
(how the hell dose it worK? explaine it )

Kayborn sighed and “said that’s it!, all ships fire! On Corneliuian ships!“ with that Phaser, arrays quantum resonance arrays ,and torpedoes were moved to fire status . the Jupiter discharged quantum resonance fire extremely fast powerful beams of blue crimson fire were directed at multiple ships , photon , and quantum torpedoes flew out from all directions towards multiple ships , the other escorts fallowed suites there phasers and torpedoes targeting multiple ships and there weak sections.

Admiral Tasak spat, "So much for that....", he looked down at another officer.
"Open up on the idiots, full blast. Oh, and dont stop until they are gone. We gave them a chance, many if I may remember, now they pay for it."
And with that the Klington ships unloaded on the enemy with everything it had, hundreds of torpedos and lasers went onto the enemy like a fatboy to a cake.
The Emperor Fenix
17-02-2005, 22:14
Okyton News Network: Broadcast in all nations containing Post-Human Companies in the galaxy.

ONN: Trouble in The Fedral Union

The blockade placed by The of Corneliu around The Fedral Union looks like being the start of an inter-state war. Siren Probes have just detected large amounts of high energy activity, which likely means weapons fire. We can't as yet ascertain who has fired upon who, or what the concequences may be but we've asked for statements from the governments of The Fedral Union, Corneliu and Coreworlds, which appears to be holding back in this situation.

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Crassuss:

May i remind all of you that we have a vested interest in The Fedral Union, and attacks against her will result in retaliation by the Crassussian Armies. Bear this in mind before you make any further rash descisions.
The Fedral Union
17-02-2005, 22:17
With the battle going on a fleet of 20 ships including the massive 4 km dreadnought hepsberough began to move ,in a few moments the 20 ship fleet had warped out in the middle of the battle the massive dreadnought charged up its main guns and emitters and fire , a massive blaze of fire powered out of the ship towards Klington’s ships , fighters were being lunched like mad , over 800 fighters whooshed around and around waiting for enemy fighters to engage them . crimson blue beams of quantum resonance and crimson orange beams of Phaser fire filled space as every ship fired there arsenal . bolts of thousands of torpedoes flew out of every ship combined (ooc I’m pumping out massive amounts of power here) 3 ships damaged 1 small ship destroyed 2 convoy ships destroyed (civies)
The Cassiopeia Galaxy
17-02-2005, 22:41
ShadowNet News

The Cassiopeian Government was declared that it will Stay out of The War Between Corneliu and TFU. All Cassiopeian Ships are to avoid The Milky Way and stay out of the war zone.
Corneliu
17-02-2005, 22:46
(how the hell dose it worK? explaine it )

Star trek universe: Radiation shuts down warp drive as well as transwarp! Your the trekkie, you should've known this

Kayborn sighed and “said that’s it!, all ships fire! On Corneliuian ships!“ with that Phaser, arrays quantum resonance arrays ,and torpedoes were moved to fire status . the Jupiter discharged quantum resonance fire extremely fast powerful beams of blue crimson fire were directed at multiple ships , photon , and quantum torpedoes flew out from all directions towards multiple ships , the other escorts fallowed suites there phasers and torpedoes targeting multiple ships and there weak sections.

"Sir they have just fired on us."

As the shots hit the ships, damage reports were being shouted across the bridge. "Fire everything we've got including anti-matter torpedoes. Send a messege to Corneliuan Prime. They have opened fired and we are responding."

The messege was quickly relayed.
CoreWorlds
17-02-2005, 22:46
"Dammit, it's a full blown battle now! Reinforcements from both sides are coming out like bugs!"

"Crap. Who started it?"

"Uh, TFU, sir, after that big discharge from Corneliu."

"Well, it begins. Open a channel to Tenetia. Send a report to Naval Command, complete with sensor reports." The captain sighed. "Let them know that Corneliu tried to stop the blockade runners but Fedral Union began the actual battle."

"Yes, sir." The comms officer said, and started working on the comms.
The Fedral Union
17-02-2005, 22:51
Defiant’s and other ships continued to fire on Corneliuian vessels. Massive amounts of fire poured out of federal ships .

torpedo’s flew out every place phasers and quantum resonance beams flew out of federal ships filling the sky , all fire concentrated on enemy ships fighters began bombing runs on the Corneliuian ships as well http://www.shiporama.org/images/akira/akira11.jpg


(Losses: 1 ship 2 ship damaged)
Corneliu
17-02-2005, 22:53
Back on Corneliuan Prime, the reports of the engagement have quickly moved towards the top levels of government. The people are outraged over the incident and are screaming for blood. The Vice President of Corneliu sat back in his office and stared out the window.

"Mr. Vice President. The President just faxed us a messege. He has requested that a declaration of war be presented."

"Not yet. Notify our Ambassador to CoreWorlds. Let her know that its a shooting war. No Declaration of War at this time however."

"Yes sir."

Erica received the messege via a datapad. "Well ambassador, looks like your forces have attacked Corneliuan ships first. What do you have to say?"
Corneliu
17-02-2005, 22:55
Defiant’s and other ships continued to fire on Corneliuian vessels. Massive amounts of fire poured out of federal ships .

torpedo’s flew out every place phasers and quantum resonance beams flew out of federal ships filling the sky , all fire concentrated on enemy ships fighters began bombing runs on the Corneliuian ships as well http://www.shiporama.org/images/akira/akira11.jpg


(Losses: 1 ship 2 ship damaged)

Another group of warships jumped into the area spraying out anti-matter warheads at TFU's ships! The fighters launched and began to fire on them as well. Admiral Baker, who arrived with the new group of ships began to issue orders.

"Group 7 move back to holding pattern Alpha. Continue to fire all available weapons. 1st Battle group, fire all that we have and cross the T. Let them know that we mean serious business."

The ships moved in accordance with the orders and all of the ships weaponry are brought to bear on TFU Vessels.

(Losses: 2 Ships 3 Damaged.)
The Fedral Union
17-02-2005, 22:55
Back on Corneliuan Prime, the reports of the engagement have quickly moved towards the top levels of government. The people are outraged over the incident and are screaming for blood. The Vice President of Corneliu sat back in his office and stared out the window.

"Mr. Vice President. The President just faxed us a messege. He has requested that a declaration of war be presented."

"Not yet. Notify our Ambassador to CoreWorlds. Let her know that its a shooting war. No Declaration of War at this time however."

"Yes sir."

Erica received the messege via a datapad. "Well ambassador, looks like your forces have attacked Corneliuan ships first. What do you have to say?"


Kerry grinned "you had it comeing!"
Corneliu
17-02-2005, 22:59
Kerry grinned "you had it comeing!"

"We were trying to avoid this Kerry! You brought this war on yourselves with your belicus acts. By firing first, you became the aggressors and us the victims. By firing first, you declared war on us. I still am hoping for a peaceful solution but now what your nation did will make it that much more tougher."
NuMetal
17-02-2005, 23:00
Vice President Ransom of NuMetal issued a public Diplomatic Release to the nations involved:

"Greetings, " he began "I am afraid to say that this blockade has had a rather unfortunate effect on our commerce....four fusion reactors purchased from The Fedral Union are awaiting shipment in one of the few areas being securely blockaded. In addition, the crew of the cargo ship, a military transport as it were, are stranded with their ship. If this blockade continues against TFU, a nation we have had friendly relations with for quite awhile, we regret that military force may be required to secure our crew members and cargo, and to render assistance to TFU forces as we escort our ship out of the area."
The Fedral Union
17-02-2005, 23:04
Another group of warships jumped into the area spraying out anti-matter warheads at TFU's ships! The fighters launched and began to fire on them as well. Admiral Baker, who arrived with the new group of ships began to issue orders.

"Group 7 move back to holding pattern Alpha. Continue to fire all available weapons. 1st Battle group, fire all that we have and cross the T. Let them know that we mean serious business."

The ships moved in accordance with the orders and all of the ships weaponry are brought to bear on TFU Vessels.

(Losses: 2 Ships 3 Damaged.)


losses: 3 damaged small ships 15 fighters down)

the massive dreadnought now consecrated its fire on Corneliuian vessels , fighters broke off and started rushing in to enemy fighter formations the fleet started out flanking Corneliuian vessels , and firing every thing they had maneuvering superbly and flawlessly avoiding some fire but a few ships getting hit and damaged . a ship was totally destroyed by a spread of anti matter torpedo its burning husk twirling around , ships continued to bombard enemy capital ships and smaller ships.
Klington
17-02-2005, 23:06
Admiral Tasak yelled to his officers, "Brace for impact! Full power to sheilds!" After that a couple of collisions hit the side of the ship. "Send out a comlink, tell the fleet to move to this position, tell the Infinite Celestial to power up its hyper cannon and ready the Nano Mists." "Yes Sir!" "Power up our own cannon and our mists, and get that other ship of ours to keep attacking the enemy we orginally attacked."

Soon a small contingent of 40 Klington ships entered real space and opened up on the enemy ships.

"This is going to escalate very quickly, prepare the rest of the fleet, if we can destroy these idiots now, the less to deal with later." The Comofficer began to fill out the small message and then sent it to the the rest of the fleet.

Tasak looked back to General Nixon and said, "Your gonna take one of the ships, prepare the troops." Nixon just shook his head knowingly and left the room to get his men ready....

One Ship Heavily Damaged, the other is Moderatly Damaged.
Corneliu
17-02-2005, 23:07
losses: 3 damaged small ships 15 fighters down)

the massive dreadnought now consecrated its fire on Corneliuian vessels , fighters broke off and started rushing in to enemy fighter formations the fleet started out flanking Corneliuian vessels , and firing every thing they had maneuvering superbly and flawlessly avoiding some fire but a few ships getting hit and damaged . a ship was totally destroyed by a spread of anti matter torpedo its burning husk twirling around , ships continued to bombard enemy capital ships and smaller ships.

A Corneliuan Dreadnaught appeared. Popping out of lightspeed, one of the few that they have, is the largest warship to date. An Eclipse Class star destroyer! It immediately opens up on the dreadnaught with its focusing beam. Its fighters launched were tossed into the fray. Though it wasn't part of the blockading force, it was going through its familiarization runs when word hit regarding the fighting. Since they were near the area, Rear Admiral Perry decided to take the ship into combat.

OOC: Yes I do have this and I purchased it from TFU!
The Fedral Union
17-02-2005, 23:10
Vice President Ransom of NuMetal issued a public Diplomatic Release to the nations involved:

"Greetings, " he began "I am afraid to say that this blockade has had a rather unfortunate effect on our commerce....four fusion reactors purchased from The Fedral Union are awaiting shipment in one of the few areas being securely blockaded. In addition, the crew of the cargo ship, a military transport as it were, are stranded with their ship. If this blockade continues against TFU, a nation we have had friendly relations with for quite awhile, we regret that military force may be required to secure our crew members and cargo, and to render assistance to TFU forces as we escort our ship out of the area."
“The union will render need assistance we shall send about 4 ships to help you we will try to get your fusion reactors on there way as soon as possible“


With that 4 ships were dispatched from Star fleet commands docks they set up there positions, awaiting NuMetal’s transport ship , so they could begin escort operations , there blue glowing nacelles a beacon in the darkness of space the star light gleaming on there sleek hulls.
The Cassiopeia Galaxy
17-02-2005, 23:15
ShadowNet News

CASSIOPEIA AT WAR!!!!

The Cassiopeian Goverment General today has Declared War on Corneliu because of The Blockade of TFU. already The 1st Cassiopeian Fleet is being ready to head off to help the TFU Fleet.

More on this as soon as we can get news.
The Fedral Union
17-02-2005, 23:15
A Corneliuan Dreadnaught appeared. Popping out of lightspeed, one of the few that they have, is the largest warship to date. An Eclipse Class star destroyer! It immediately opens up on the dreadnaught with its focusing beam. Its fighters launched were tossed into the fray. Though it wasn't part of the blockading force, it was going through its familiarization runs when word hit regarding the fighting. Since they were near the area, Rear Admiral Perry decided to take the ship into combat.

OOC: Yes I do have this and I purchased it from TFU!


With that the dreadnought fired 1 torpedo … a deathing silence arose the torpedo homed in .. beep beep beep beep . the lone torpedo continued on its course as ships battled below in a glow of fire , the torpedo exploded right over the enemy super ship a massive amount of gravimetric sheer and a level 13 shock wave resulted from it (bye bye eclipse ..)
Corneliu
17-02-2005, 23:16
ShadowNet News

CASSIOPEIA AT WAR!!!!

The Cassiopeian Goverment General today has Declared War on Corneliu because of The Blockade of TFU. already The 1st Cassiopeian Fleet is being ready to head off to help the TFU Fleet.

More on this as soon as we can get news.

OOC: They fired first! LOL

IC: "Sir Cassiopeia has declared war on us."

"Fine! Notify the 5th and Seventh Fleets to prepare for war against them."

"Very well sir."

The orders were quickly given out and the defense net around the Country is beginning to go active.
Corneliu
17-02-2005, 23:17
With that the dreadnought fired 1 torpedo … a deathing silence arose the torpedo homed in .. beep beep beep beep . the lone torpedo continued on its course as ships battled below in a glow of fire , the torpedo exploded right over the enemy super ship a massive amount of gravimetric sheer and a level 13 shock wave resulted from it (bye bye eclipse ..)

OOC: Kinda hard to fire when that Beam Pierced the ship! Your ship would've been destroyed outright considering its beam would've slammed past the shields and impacted on the ship.
The Fedral Union
17-02-2005, 23:18
OOC: Kinda hard to fire when that Beam Pierced the ship!


just post ....
Corneliu
17-02-2005, 23:21
just post ....

OOC:Torpedo attacked ignored due to the fact that your ship would've been destroyed. If you do not believe me, ask someone who knows the Eclipse Class Star Destroyer.

The two sides continuously engaged in attacks. Both sides taking casualites.

Rear Admiral Perry communicates with the Admiral. "Sir, shall we fire at another vessel?"

"Not with the beam. Engage using conventional weapons."

"Aye Sir." The Eclipse fires its normal weaponry at the enemy fleet.
Klington
17-02-2005, 23:21
just post ....

Dude thats a godmod, change it or be ignored.
The Fedral Union
17-02-2005, 23:22
Dude thats a godmod, change it or be ignored.
god mode how its a grav torpedo if you can make black holes then it isint a god mode!
Corneliu
17-02-2005, 23:23
god mode how its a grav torpedo if you can make black holes then it isint a god mode!

Its a godmod because I hit the dreadnaught with the Eclipse's main weapon. A weapon that destroys on contact.
NuMetal
17-02-2005, 23:23
In a secret military base in an undisclosed location in NuMetal, underneath an armored roof with "Hanger 18" inscribe upon it, uniformed crew members of the NuMetallian Space Defense Force's first Carrier group were engaged in flight preperations. The large armored carrier with its 22 fighters nested within was the center of the excitement, rivaled perhaps, only by the two heavily armed cruisers on either side of it. Already in the air, twin escort frigates and 4 gunships hovered over the outpost. 15 additional long range fighters were still within the hanger.




Meanwhile, in TFU, the flight crew of the bulky cargo ship lifted cautiously off the ground, nervously directed towards the 4 TFU ships in the sky above.
Klington
17-02-2005, 23:24
god mode how its a grav torpedo if you can make black holes then it isint a god mode!

Look Super Novas are too far, especially if its localized, thats bull.
Corneliu
17-02-2005, 23:29
Look Super Novas are too far, especially if its localized, thats bull.

Relax Klington! I'm not upset at the torpedo!
CoreWorlds
17-02-2005, 23:29
Kerry grinned "you had it comeing!"
The President recieved a dispatch from Naval Command a few seconds later. Then his voice became ice. "Well, well, well. It looks like your forces forced a shooting war, Mr. Ambassador. You just dug your own grave. As per the Corneliuan-Coredian Treaty of Coredia, we are honor-bound to assist our ally against enemy forces when either one of us comes under attack. Ambassador, pack your bags. You're expelled from Coreworlds until further notice. You have 2 hours, or else the embassy will be forced to leave, one way or another. Notify your foolish President that he is now at war with the Imperial Republic of Coreworlds!"

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"Sir, dispatch from Command. Sir, it says to engage TFU forces at will." The comms officer said, nervous.

"Very good! Red Alert!" The captain ordered. "All ships, move in on TFU convoy and destroy it! Once you get firing solutions, engage at will!"

"Yes sir!"

The Star Destroyers moved forth, fighters started pouring out, and deadly green turbolasers began lashing out at the TFU forces.
Industrial Experiment
17-02-2005, 23:29
Its a godmod because I hit the dreadnaught with the Eclipse's main weapon. A weapon that destroys on contact.

Just "happening" to have an Eclipse in the area is very suspicious in and of itself.
The Fedral Union
17-02-2005, 23:30
Its a godmod because I hit the dreadnaught with the Eclipse's main weapon. A weapon that destroys on contact.
It could have been fired before you hit it mabey!!!


Lead ship “ this is the Warrington (galaxy class) , you are clear to form up with us we will escort you “
Corneliu
17-02-2005, 23:31
Just "happening" to have an Eclipse in the area is very suspicious in and of itself.

I'll admit that it was a bit suspicoius but this is space after all.
Klington
17-02-2005, 23:32
The Torpedo went flying by and all of the sudden an explosion happened that looked like a small firecracker going off. The Crew laughed and carried off onto the real buisness at hand.

Admiral Tasak was observing the battle and barking out orders, when an officer told him, "Sir the Mist and super cannon are ready."
The Admiral Replied, "Great! Launch the mist at the main part of the fleet and open up on them. We will be using the Cannon soon."

All of the sudden thousands of little balls shot of the ship with great speed and headed right for the enemy, they were so small that the enemy had a hard time hitting the balls but a few were hit. As they reached there positions they exploded and what looked like a strange mist floated around the ships. It looked like the mist was doing the wave, but this was actually gravity working from the small mist to try and slow down the enemy ships.

Admiral Tasak sent out a message to his allies, "The enemy should have slown down by now do to the mist, open up on them."

3 Ships Destroyed, 4 Heavily Damaged.
Industrial Experiment
17-02-2005, 23:32
I'll admit that it was a bit suspicoius but this is space after all.

What is that supposed to mean? I assume from the way you talk, you only have one of these ships?
Corneliu
17-02-2005, 23:33
It could have been fired before you hit it mabey!!!

Kinda hard too when it opened up the second it reverted to normal space. Besides, you directed it at the Eclipse itself. Kinda impossible to target and fire when your ship is flyswatted. Just acknowledge that your dreadnaught is destroyed.
Corneliu
17-02-2005, 23:33
What is that supposed to mean? I assume from the way you talk, you only have one of these ships?

I do only have one! You know how much power it takes to run an eclipse class vessel?
CoreWorlds
17-02-2005, 23:34
OOC: Make an OOC thread, please.
Corneliu
17-02-2005, 23:36
OOC: Make an OOC thread, please.

OOC: DONE

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8225279#post8225279
The Fedral Union
17-02-2005, 23:43
the entire fleet started attacking the blockade all 4000 ships rushed in to battle .
NuMetal
17-02-2005, 23:52
Communications from NuMetal continue to urge all parties to cease fire and mediate their disputes. NuMetallian forces are in transit, however they hope any undue violence can be avoided.
Klington
17-02-2005, 23:52
Grand Admiral Tasak Shook his head, "Those idiots, they're going to destroy there resistance right here. But I must say, it is brave. They're either brave idiots or a genius." He turned to the Comofficer, "Call in the rest of the fleet. Immediatly." With that some 3000 More ships entered into space.

"Good, have the sheild ships* form a barrier at our front flank. And then push into the enemy fleet"
(*Shield Ships are ships that focus everything on making one supershield, ususally used to help protect a fleet.)

With that 40 ships connected and formed a huge shield at the front line of the Klington fleet and began to slowly push into the enemy, all of Klingtons fleet opened up on TFUs Fleet.

In addition, 1 Eclipse Ship Came through with the Fleet.
12 Ships lost, 14 Heavily Damaged.
Corneliu
18-02-2005, 00:09
"This is the Admiral of Corneliu to all Corneliuan ships. CEASE-FIRE AT ONCE! I say again cease fire at once. Move all ships back and allow all ships to pass through."

When the order was given he asked for the channel for TFU ships.

"This is The Corneliuan Admiral incharge of this area to TFU Commander. We are willing to work out our problems diplomatically and on a neutral ship. If you like to talk, please let us know.
The Fedral Union
18-02-2005, 00:11
Grand Admiral Tasak Shook his head, "Those idiots, they're going to destroy there resistance right here. But I must say, it is brave. They're either brave idiots or a genius." He turned to the Comofficer, "Call in the rest of the fleet. Immediatly." With that some 3000 More ships entered into space.

"Good, have the sheild ships* form a barrier at our front flank. And then push into the enemy fleet"
(*Shield Ships are ships that focus everything on making one supershield, ususally used to help protect a fleet.)

With that 40 ships connected and formed a huge shield at the front line of the Klington fleet and began to slowly push into the enemy, all of Klingtons fleet opened up on TFUs Fleet.

In addition, 1 Eclipse Ship Came through with the Fleet.
12 Ships lost, 14 Heavily Damaged.


(Klington im comeign after you watch out!) (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/editpost.php?do=editpost&p=8225517)
Klington
18-02-2005, 00:33
(Klington im comeign after you watch out!) (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/editpost.php?do=editpost&p=8225517)

Ok, bye bye now!
Klington fleets are now falling back to their home systems to allow peace between the two paties.

General Nixion had this to say, "Well we kicked there asses so hard that we pissed them off. Now we got threats to our security, ha, like those bastards could do anything. As soon as I get to meet the legendary Bastidas Bastard, Im going to grab his fucking head and ram into my goddamned knee, then Im gonna stick my two fingers up his nose and rip the mother fucker off!"
HFI ALPHA WING
18-02-2005, 01:05
ooc> This is HFI ALPHA WING, HFI shut down while i was in hospital but has a pop of over 2 billion so im no noob.

ic> At the various locations along the lines of enemy ships small battles erupeted as hive ships flooded towards their foe's thousands of man sized swarm ships throwing themselfs at the lager ships in the area, royal guard began to pick on single targets lasor prisming into one spot before attempting to open a window in a target vessels sheilds large enough for some of the swarm ships to fit through literally using raw energy to push the sheil appart but cause no damage to it or the ship. Where this was a sucsess hundreds of swarmships raced through the hole's to clamp down on the ship and begin boring into the hulls. The moon sized ships moved towards the fleet a natural FTLi field welling out around it as the gravety well created by the huge vessels swept over their prey.

At the main fight a protean hive patriach arived and signaled to TFU ships in the area to activate the Web Sheilding, upon doing so a huge emp explosion powerful enough to cause musscle spasm's in normal humans swept through the area and out into space.

open coms on all channels:
* A voice similar to the Zerg on Starcraft ripped onto the airwaves The Voice had backed into it so much psyche that the ears of people who heard the voice began to bleed*
WE ARE THE HIVE, WE ARE PERFECTION. STAND DOWN AND BE BOARDED OR YOU WILL BE DESTROYED!
WE ARE THE HIVE, WE ARE PERFECTION.

ooc> my pop size is my army.... and thats on HFI not this crummy little nation.
Ship size is as is due to them being 100% organic.
CoreWorlds
18-02-2005, 01:15
ooc> This is HFI ALPHA WING, HFI shut down while i was in hospital but has a pop of over 2 billion so im no noob.

ic> At the various locations along the lines of enemy ships small battles erupeted as hive ships flooded towards their foe's thousands of man sized swarm ships throwing themselfs at the lager ships in the area, royal guard began to pick on single targets lasor prisming into one spot before attempting to open a window in a target vessels sheilds large enough for some of the swarm ships to fit through literally using raw energy to push the sheil appart but cause no damage to it or the ship. Where this was a sucsess hundreds of swarmships raced through the hole's to clamp down on the ship and begin boring into the hulls. The moon sized ships moved towards the fleet a natural FTLi field welling out around it as the gravety well created by the huge vessels swept over their prey.

At the main fight a protean hive patriach arived and signaled to TFU ships in the area to activate the Web Sheilding, upon doing so a huge emp explosion powerful enough to cause musscle spasm's in normal humans swept through the area and out into space.


ic> my pop size is my army.... and thats on HFI not this crummy little nation.
"Sir, those moons are shooting at us!"

"What is it?" The captain asked, as explosions went all around and 2 Star Destroyers went down to a swarm of TFU ships.

"Some kind of EMP. Our shields are not very affected by it. My sensors are fuzzy, though."

"Shouldn't be a problem. Ignore those moons, and boost your sensors."

"What about the fighters coming from them?"

"Do nothing. Our fighters aren't even touched by them."

"Yes, sir."
Klington
18-02-2005, 01:21
ooc> This is HFI ALPHA WING, HFI shut down while i was in hospital but has a pop of over 2 billion so im no noob.

ic> At the various locations along the lines of enemy ships small battles erupeted as hive ships flooded towards their foe's thousands of man sized swarm ships throwing themselfs at the lager ships in the area, royal guard began to pick on single targets lasor prisming into one spot before attempting to open a window in a target vessels sheilds large enough for some of the swarm ships to fit through literally using raw energy to push the sheil appart but cause no damage to it or the ship. Where this was a sucsess hundreds of swarmships raced through the hole's to clamp down on the ship and begin boring into the hulls. The moon sized ships moved towards the fleet a natural FTLi field welling out around it as the gravety well created by the huge vessels swept over their prey.

At the main fight a protean hive patriach arived and signaled to TFU ships in the area to activate the Web Sheilding, upon doing so a huge emp explosion powerful enough to cause musscle spasm's in normal humans swept through the area and out into space.

open coms on all channels:
* A voice similar to the Zerg on Starcraft ripped onto the airwaves The Voice had backed into it so much psyche that the ears of people who heard the voice began to bleed*
WE ARE THE HIVE, WE ARE PERFECTION. STAND DOWN AND BE BOARDED OR YOU WILL BE DESTROYED!
WE ARE THE HIVE, WE ARE PERFECTION.

ooc> my pop size is my army.... and thats on HFI not this crummy little nation.
Ship size is as is due to them being 100% organic.

Ok w/e its over and stop talking like that dude, its still a godmod.
The Fedral Union
18-02-2005, 01:35
Federal ships moved in for a kill galaxy wings 1 -4 and several other ships supporting them started attacking Core worlds ships . several MIRANDA class star ships also started in from the side Akira classes flew in from the bottom, EXCELSIOR- classes and several other ships started head on as well as the Jupiter its main cannons firing phasers torpedoes and quantum weapons flew out of every ship the sky was filled with weapons fire the darkness of space alit by burin husks of ships and weapons fire. Crimsons beams of energy bursts out every witch way.
Chronosia
18-02-2005, 01:37
OOC: Whatever happened to leaving? Change of heart? :D
Corneliu
18-02-2005, 01:37
Federal ships moved in for a kill galaxy wings 1 -4 and several other ships supporting them started attacking Core worlds ships . several MIRANDA class star ships also started in from the side Akira classes flew in from the bottom, EXCELSIOR- classes and several other ships started head on as well as the Jupiter its main cannons firing phasers torpedoes and quantum weapons flew out of every ship the sky was filled with weapons fire the darkness of space alit by burin husks of ships and weapons fire. Crimsons beams of energy bursts out every witch way.

"TFU Ships! We would like to conduct Peace Negotiations between all parties involved. We are willing to end the blockade and to remove the embargo as a price to enter into negotiations with you."
The Fedral Union
18-02-2005, 01:39
OOC: Whatever happened to leaving? Change of heart? :D
Im finishing this back the fuck off
Corneliu
18-02-2005, 01:42
OOC: Whatever happened to leaving? Change of heart? :D

Don't antagonize please.
Chronosia
18-02-2005, 01:48
OOC: I'm not antagonising, far from it. For a moment there was the glimmer of hope that this RP could actually go on, so I won't back off, because I have nothing to back off from, save my understandable happiness at having something to do again. Honestly, I'm being nice and hes being moody. I'll post soon; on with the show
CoreWorlds
18-02-2005, 01:49
Federal ships moved in for a kill galaxy wings 1 -4 and several other ships supporting them started attacking Core worlds ships . several MIRANDA class star ships also started in from the side Akira classes flew in from the bottom, EXCELSIOR- classes and several other ships started head on as well as the Jupiter its main cannons firing phasers torpedoes and quantum weapons flew out of every ship the sky was filled with weapons fire the darkness of space alit by burin husks of ships and weapons fire. Crimsons beams of energy bursts out every witch way.
"We're outnumbered, sir!" Someone shouted, the Captain of the lead Star Destroyer didn't know who. Massive firepower lanced into the fleet, and massive firepower was returned to the enemies. The battle turned into a slaughter, as Star Destroyers and Fedral Union ships mingled, fire criss-crossing the sky. Smaller ships were obliterated outright, and the shields of two older Star Destroyers couldn't take the firepower thrown about, and dropped, leaving them as naked as a boy in a girl's locker room before the enemy.

The phasers raked across the hulls and torpedoes blew ugly holes in the ships. The bridge of one ship was blown to pieces when a couple of Galaxies fired weapon after weapon into it, instantly killing the bridge crew, and crippling the ship. Escape pods streamed away, hoping they won't die from the battle.

The other ship was outrightly destroyed when a lucky hit detonated the reactor, turning the Star Destroyer into a nova, the shockwave travelling out for several thousand miles before dissipating.

The other four ships were in varying degrees of damage, though shields were still online. The flagship itself sent deadly blows into the enemy, raking turbolaser fire into the incoming Fedral ships and missiles and fighters streaked towards the Jupiter in order to destroy it before it destroys the ship.

The Captain now has a healthy respect for the enemy, an enemy much stronger than when Coreworlds fought it last...
Klington
18-02-2005, 01:58
"We're outnumbered, sir!" Someone shouted, the Captain of the lead Star Destroyer didn't know who. Massive firepower lanced into the fleet, and massive firepower was returned to the enemies. The battle turned into a slaughter, as Star Destroyers and Fedral Union ships mingled, fire criss-crossing the sky. Smaller ships were obliterated outright, and the shields of two older Star Destroyers couldn't take the firepower thrown about, and dropped, leaving them as naked as a boy in a girl's locker room before the enemy.

The phasers raked across the hulls and torpedoes blew ugly holes in the ships. The bridge of one ship was blown to pieces when a couple of Galaxies fired weapon after weapon into it, instantly killing the bridge crew, and crippling the ship. Escape pods streamed away, hoping they won't die from the battle.

The other ship was outrightly destroyed when a lucky hit detonated the reactor, turning the Star Destroyer into a nova, the shockwave travelling out for several thousand miles before dissipating.

The other four ships were in varying degrees of damage, though shields were still online. The flagship itself sent deadly blows into the enemy, raking turbolaser fire into the incoming Fedral ships and missiles and fighters streaked towards the Jupiter in order to destroy it before it destroys the ship.

The Captain now has a healthy respect for the enemy, an enemy much stronger than when Coreworlds fought it last... The Admiral was getting his ships to pull back when he noticed the ongoing battle with Coreworlds. "How many ships do we have in the immediate area?" "About 200 Sir, why?"
Admiral Tasak Replied, "We cant let this happen to Coreworlds, call of the ships back, when the Shield Ships reture have them surround Coreworlds fleet, I fear they may be to damaged to survive this battle. In the meantime, wedge are ships inbetween the two fleets and engage the enemy!"
The small fleet instantly moved inbetween the two warring fleets and a call went out to the other ships to come back to the area. As Klingtons 200 ships began to engage the enemy, Hyperspace began to open up all around the fleets as more Klington ships came to join the battle.

"This ends today!" Admiral Tasak Screamed, "Open up a comlink with Coreworlds." "Yes sir!"
"Coreworlds, call in reinforcements, we are going to need it." Said Admiral Tasak.
Corneliu
18-02-2005, 02:01
The Corneliuan Ships have had enough!

"Place us between all hostile forces and give me a comm."

When the order was carried out, he opened up a full channel. "This has gone on far enough. I want a full cease-fire by all sides and a peace conference to be convened to discuss this all. I have the authority to end this blockade and Embargo and I'm doing it right now as an oveture to TFU. I want all ships to pull back and to cease-fire now."
The Fedral Union
18-02-2005, 02:07
4 ships loss the Jupiter’s shields are at 75 % :

with that the 4th and 7th fleets warped in over 150 ships now totaled it , the rushed in to the battle heading of the new enemy fleet with every thing they had 20 more ship broke off and started pumping mass fire in to the nearest coreworliand ship . phasers and every thing else filled the sky
Corneliu
18-02-2005, 02:10
"TFU VESSELS! PLEASE CEASE-FIRE! No one else needs to die in this blockade. Its over and we want to go back to being friends. Please stop firing on our allies."
The Fedral Union
18-02-2005, 02:15
"TFU VESSELS! PLEASE CEASE-FIRE! No one else needs to die in this blockade. Its over and we want to go back to being friends. Please stop firing on our allies."


kayborn responded" they have brought this upon them selves we will stop attacking you but not them we will drive them from our borders"
Corneliu
18-02-2005, 02:18
kayborn responded" they have brought this upon them selves we will stop attacking you but not them we will drive them from our borders"

"Please Cease fire on them. I'll get them to back off. They won't fight against me."

He switched Channels. "Allied ships! Please stop firing at once. This fight is over. Peace should reign."
CoreWorlds
18-02-2005, 02:28
The Admiral was getting his ships to pull back when he noticed the ongoing battle with Coreworlds. "How many ships do we have in the immediate area?" "About 200 Sir, why?"
Admiral Tasak Replied, "We cant let this happen to Coreworlds, call of the ships back, when the Shield Ships reture have them surround Coreworlds fleet, I fear they may be to damaged to survive this battle. In the meantime, wedge are ships inbetween the two fleets and engage the enemy!"
The small fleet instantly moved inbetween the two warring fleets and a call went out to the other ships to come back to the area. As Klingtons 200 ships began to engage the enemy, Hyperspace began to open up all around the fleets as more Klington ships came to join the battle.

"This ends today!" Admiral Tasak Screamed, "Open up a comlink with Coreworlds." "Yes sir!"
"Coreworlds, call in reinforcements, we are going to need it." Said Admiral Tasak.
"You're right, we will need it." The captain asked, and the comms officer was forced to burn through ECM in order to call for reinforcements.

An immediate reply: "We'll be here ASAP. Hold on tight!"

Naval Command sent the 256th Fleet of 20 Imperial Star Destroyers (Mark III, Coreworlds' latest; uses a larger mix of torpedoes and turbolasers than MK IIs) commanded by Commodore Mikhal Dmitri. Bolstering that are 10 Imperial Star Cruisers (Heavy shields, mainly missile platforms), 15 Nebulon-B (mk II) Frigates, 10 Lancers Medium Cruisers, and a lot of corvettes and gunships, as well as fighters. ETA: 10 minutes.

4 ships loss the Jupiter’s shields are at 75 % :

with that the 4th and 7th fleets warped in over 150 ships now totaled it , the rushed in to the battle heading of the new enemy fleet with every thing they had 20 more ship broke off and started pumping mass fire in to the nearest coreworliand ship . phasers and every thing else filled the sky
"Where the hell is the fleet!" The captain roared, as enemy reinforcements arrived to attack the Core fleet. Another Star Destroyer died, and the last of the frigates was blown apart. Now only 3 ships remained, and the flagship was getting hammered...
NuMetal
18-02-2005, 02:29
The NuMetallian ships, having arrived, proceed to escort their cargo ship cautiously through the blockade as guns began to fall silent. Vice President Ransom condones the cease fire and as always, encourages diplomacy.
Corneliu
18-02-2005, 02:39
"Coreworlds and Klington,

Please cease-fire! We want to have peace not war. We want to settle this peacefully."

He switched Channels again.

"TFU forces, I am asking that an ambassador be sent so that we can conduct peace negotiations."

Switching again, he sent the same messege to the other parties.
CoreWorlds
18-02-2005, 03:05
"Coreworlds and Klington,

Please cease-fire! We want to have peace not war. We want to settle this peacefully."

He switched Channels again.

"TFU forces, I am asking that an ambassador be sent so that we can conduct peace negotiations."

Switching again, he sent the same messege to the other parties.
"All right, but if those bastards continue to fight..." The captain growled, as the reinforcement fleet came in. "Stand down, all of you!"

The now 2 Star Destroyers began to stop firing and fall back behind the reinforcement fleet to escape battle, and the Core fleet awaited either disengagement or return to combat.
HFI ALPHA WING
18-02-2005, 03:15
The swarm vessels locked onto ships with sheilds down screaming towards them they began to latch on drilling and melting into the hull's boring down untill they reached an outer deck.

The larger ships began to charge the great imolator plasma cannons ppc wells building around massive maws preparing to unleash a torrent of plasma in an attempt to over soak a ships fields.

The swarm ships worked with royal guard using force plasma to push open a hole in enemy sheilding before rushing into the gaping hole in the sheild and slamming down onto the hull of the ships inside bioacid and rending talons tearing into the "soft" metal.


ooc> on a side note emp is NOT stopped by sheilding. dunno where you guys got that idea from.....

Also they are pushing the sheilds open using a sheild projector essentially forcing a sheild into your own sheild.

and on a final note im not god modding i am posting the intentions of the swarm ships if u notice all comments were along the lines of "in an attempt to" or "will" or "trying to" its always up to you to post losses
NuMetal
18-02-2005, 03:26
The NuMetallian commander observes a small force of ships still attacking in the eerie silence of the cease fire.

"Whose ships are those" He asks calmly.

"Earlier communications identify them as 'the hive' " Replied a sensor officer.

"Interesting....what do they think they are doing? They don't seem to care who they attack...they could provoke any of these fleets to destroy them..."
Klington
18-02-2005, 04:38
The swarm vessels locked onto ships with sheilds down screaming towards them they began to latch on drilling and melting into the hull's boring down untill they reached an outer deck.

The larger ships began to charge the great imolator plasma cannons ppc wells building around massive maws preparing to unleash a torrent of plasma in an attempt to over soak a ships fields.

The swarm ships worked with royal guard using force plasma to push open a hole in enemy sheilding before rushing into the gaping hole in the sheild and slamming down onto the hull of the ships inside bioacid and rending talons tearing into the "soft" metal.


ooc> on a side note emp is NOT stopped by sheilding. dunno where you guys got that idea from.....

Also they are pushing the sheilds open using a sheild projector essentially forcing a sheild into your own sheild.

and on a final note im not god modding i am posting the intentions of the swarm ships if u notice all comments were along the lines of "in an attempt to" or "will" or "trying to" its always up to you to post losses

Look your techs bull to us. Go get the mods to revive your country as well, it will give you more credit. And stop attack needlessly.
CoreWorlds
18-02-2005, 04:55
The swarm vessels locked onto ships with sheilds down screaming towards them they began to latch on drilling and melting into the hull's boring down untill they reached an outer deck.

The larger ships began to charge the great imolator plasma cannons ppc wells building around massive maws preparing to unleash a torrent of plasma in an attempt to over soak a ships fields.

The swarm ships worked with royal guard using force plasma to push open a hole in enemy sheilding before rushing into the gaping hole in the sheild and slamming down onto the hull of the ships inside bioacid and rending talons tearing into the "soft" metal.


ooc> on a side note emp is NOT stopped by sheilding. dunno where you guys got that idea from.....

Also they are pushing the sheilds open using a sheild projector essentially forcing a sheild into your own sheild.

and on a final note im not god modding i am posting the intentions of the swarm ships if u notice all comments were along the lines of "in an attempt to" or "will" or "trying to" its always up to you to post losses
When the enemy "Hive" attacked again, nothing occured. The shields only lost 1%, and the fighters felt nothing but what amounts to a nice spring breeze in space as they went back on patrol around the fleet. The bioacid was neutralized by soap, detergents and liquid paper (sodium carbonate). The talons were clipped by giant nail clippers, and all the enemy plasma were trapped by simple magnetic fields. Basically, the enemy was rendered unable to harm the Star Destroyers in any way possible.
Corneliu
18-02-2005, 06:09
"Sir, the hive has not stopped attacking!"

"Very well." He activated the comm again.

"This is the Corneliuan Fleet Commander to the Hive. Cease-fire at once or we will be forced to engage. We are in the process of negotiating peace. Please cease your fire."
Hive Fleet Imodius
18-02-2005, 06:51
ooc> HFI back up

Also dont god mod i was invited here to help my ally TFU im not god modding the ships are organic. In regards to what i am attacking i am attacking Non TFU ships with sheilds down or using the sheild renderer <pushing the sheilds open>
Excactly what was done by the zerg in starcraft to the protos.
My numbers are justified because i am an invasion fleet, i trade for radioactive materials either waste or raw in return for any other minerals i have harvested from planets. Thus the attack is still taking place there are still bio ships attacking as no one < including rob> have told the hive to stop - perhaps this is because he wants me to tear you into bits i dunno thats his option. But i could have 2billion ships here and i dont. I have under 1 mill so live with it before i do start god modding.
Xenonier
18-02-2005, 10:43
Since apparently TFU struck first, and Negotiations are underway, we will not act. We are willing to provide neutral security forces for the diplomatic negotiations, however.

Arkady Gregorovich - President Speaker of Xenonier.
CoreWorlds
18-02-2005, 13:50
ooc> HFI back up

Also dont god mod i was invited here to help my ally TFU im not god modding the ships are organic. In regards to what i am attacking i am attacking Non TFU ships with sheilds down or using the sheild renderer <pushing the sheilds open>
Excactly what was done by the zerg in starcraft to the protos.
My numbers are justified because i am an invasion fleet, i trade for radioactive materials either waste or raw in return for any other minerals i have harvested from planets. Thus the attack is still taking place there are still bio ships attacking as no one < including rob> have told the hive to stop - perhaps this is because he wants me to tear you into bits i dunno thats his option. But i could have 2billion ships here and i dont. I have under 1 mill so live with it before i do start god modding.
OOC: Ok, but you still have moon-sized ships. That's a no-no around here unless you have only ONE (Death Star) and it's used to advance a story plot. Thus, I will continue posting any defense to your attacks I deem necessary until you either withdraw the uberships or otherwise stop godmodding that way. Besides, I find my responses funny. :D
The Fedral Union
18-02-2005, 14:08
Federal ships began forming up in a defensive position again ceasing fire flinging them selves away from the inner ranks of the enemy fleet :: C & C from the union government :: > Corneliu and supporters subject get out now :

“Let us make this simple we want you off our borders and out of our territory , get the hell out now! “ mean wile federal ships started falling back to escort convoys again.
Hive Fleet Imodius
18-02-2005, 14:26
ooc> AND I <insert STFU> mean OOC have i posted the moon sized ships doing anything other than emp? - answer = no thus i dont see your point. They are a carrier. the Royal guard are 100 Meters in lenth and the swarm ships <the ones where there are thousands upon thousands> are man sized. I am failing to see your issue with the size of my ships. Now stop avoiding the point and post.
CoreWorlds
18-02-2005, 14:30
ooc> AND I <insert STFU> mean OOC have i posted the moon sized ships doing anything other than emp? - answer = no thus i dont see your point. They are a carrier. the Royal guard are 100 Meters in lenth and the swarm ships <the ones where there are thousands upon thousands> are man sized. I am failing to see your issue with the size of my ships. Now stop avoiding the point and post.
OOC: No, I don't think I will. I am not obligated to answer any of your attacks if I don't wish to. Besides, I don't see how you can maintain several moon-sized ships at once.
Corneliu
18-02-2005, 14:56
Federal ships began forming up in a defensive position again ceasing fire flinging them selves away from the inner ranks of the enemy fleet :: C & C from the union government :: > Corneliu and supporters subject get out now :

“Let us make this simple we want you off our borders and out of our territory , get the hell out now! “ mean wile federal ships started falling back to escort convoys again.

"One ship will remain to handle diplomatic Negotiations. All other ships will leave the area."
Klington
18-02-2005, 15:28
Admiral Tasak called General Nixon up to the bridge. "We are pulling out. Why dont you go and handle the Peace talks for me." said Admiral Tasak
"Im on it." Replied General Nixon.

And with that General Nixon borded a small craft and took off to a neutral area, and the rest of fleet pulled back.
CoreWorlds
18-02-2005, 15:30
The fleet pulled back to Corneliu's borders and the Commodore was sent to negotiate.
Xessmithia
18-02-2005, 15:31
OOC: No, I don't think I will. I am not obligated to answer any of your attacks if I don't wish to. Besides, I don't see how you can maintain several moon-sized ships at once.

OOC: It's because they're "organic" :rolleyes: Just post his ships splattering on your armor like bugs on a windshield.
The Cassiopeia Galaxy
18-02-2005, 16:15
Tuain System, The Outer Rim of The Cassiopeia Galaxy.

The Starting point of the Fleet was here and was starting to mass to 100 Ships of The Cassiopeian Starfleet, all ready for Battle. Fleet Commander Tizra Gon'uya'minalr knew that the Republic only wanted to stop the war in the Milky Way Galaxy. Tizra was a Draconian, Blue in color, he was one of those who helped overthrow the old Dominion and raise the Republic.

"Sir." said a Privite, "We are all ready, The Wormhole is about to Open up." "Prepeare to enter it." Tizra ordered.

The Fleet soon headed into the Wormhole and into the Milky Way Galaxy.

ETA to the Outside of The Milky Way: 2 Hours
Hive Fleet Imodius
18-02-2005, 17:16
ooc>you have one more post to state losses before i do it for u.
CoreWorlds
18-02-2005, 18:07
ooc>you have one more post to state losses before i do it for u.
OOC: You post losses for me, and by God, buddy, I'll seriously wipe your Hive nation from the face of the galaxy! In fact, I think I'll do that right now, because you've just ticked me off enough to commit genocide against you! You want a war, you got one!

IC:
2 Star Destroyers was killed by the enemy fire, during the cease-fire!. A couple of other Star Destroyers were damaged, but still in the game.

"All right, that's it! No more Mr. Nice Star Destroyer Fleet!" The Commodore roared. "All ships, open fire on those ugly organic Hive ships! Wipe them from the goddamned galaxy!"

The Star Destroyer Sector Fleet maneuvered back into battle, and began spitting massive turbolasers and missile swarm fire against the Hive Fleet. They will rue the day they ever messed with the Imperial Republic, and by extension, the Empire!
Corneliu
18-02-2005, 20:16
"Hive, this is your final warning. Cease-fire at once or we'll consider you hostile to us via an alliance we have with Coreworlds. Failure to stop will result in the use of force. CEASE-FIRE NOW!!!"
The Fedral Union
18-02-2005, 21:47
2 wells class star ships warped in just as half the federal fleet was warping out , with the hive now attacking it was clear to preserve peace the hive must be taken down , over 100 ships now moved over going in to flanks with the coreworldian fleet , fighters were lunched and they rushed hive ships attacking them with rapid fire pulse phasers and quantum bombs , the wells class star ships rushed in firing there temporal disruptors in pulses of 3 the enormously powerful weapons (only had a range of about 950,000 km) , they also fired its compression beam at several hive ships

Kayborn sighed and yelled over the comn “ enough is enough hive this is a time for peace not war ,your genocidal tactics are seriously no good I’m afraid we’ll have to side with core worlds here ! we will only damage your ships not destroy them but if you force us to we will now knock off the attack”
The Cassiopeia Galaxy
18-02-2005, 21:48
The Cassiopeian Fleet is turning back for the Home Galaxy.
Hive Fleet Imodius
19-02-2005, 00:51
The Norn queen let out a large emp burst that kocked the incomming missiles guidance systems off line rendering them usless most detonating harmlessly others crusing to a stand still. Any large ordinence or plasma core rounds where intercepted by welljumping swarm ships protecting the Norn queen.

As the TFU ships declaired their intent and opend fire the norn queen that was in the core of TFU spare broke into 250 segments each one well jumping into highorbit before plummeting down shattering into huge bio globules that began to disintergrate upon entry to the atmosphere realeasing billions of synaptic harvesters across entire planets. The bullet sized organisms locted onto any living target slamming into the base of its perspective spine rendering it uncocious before growing into a hive node inside its prey.

On board the 2 star destroyers that swarm ships had latched onto the same was happening on a smaller scale. thousands of harvesters raced along corridors and ventilation ducts slamming into the hapless crew members within minuetes they regained conciousness as part of the hive and began to detail weaknesses in the stardestroyers. The sheilds on the ships went back up 3 minuetes after harvest and the crippled ships began to open fire on hive for now reporting breaches in many sectors but that containment was in progress.
* SECRET *
On board these vessels the commanders that had been taken into the hive began releasing access codes to the sheilds and planets to the hive unleashing all the knowledge they could to the hive as quickly as possible.

ic>>
The Hive fleet began to span out before triggering the WET WARE tech on TFU ships - instantly TFU ships began powering down sheilds lowering and the scream of crew members could be heard over the comms as more harvesters were unleashed onto the bridges.

The small wing of HFI had what it needed conveying all the information instantly to the HIVE MIND they collected the knowledge as to the rear of the formation a deformed Norn queen arrived its surface scared with mechanical instruments and the faint glow of heat could be seen under the skein much like a high powerd tourch thourgh one's hand at night.

Thoudands of swarm vessels were dying the norn queen could no longer be protected as countless projectiles and lazors rippled into her massive form tearing chunks out of her, she was dying but she did not care. She was dying for the hive. With a primordial scream into the scilence of space a vast emp pulse was being jenerated.

open comms:
WE ARE THE HIVE, YOUR DESTRUCTION IS JUSTIFIED.

The norn queen began to disintergrate large arc's of lighning welling between drifting pieces only 4 royal guard remained and but 1200 or so swarm ships.
Corneliu
19-02-2005, 00:58
OOC: HIVE! Your being hailed. You are you ignoring my posts?
Dontgonearthere
19-02-2005, 00:59
Semi/OOC:
DGNT beams in, unleashes 400,000 million anti-Hive virus bombs and vanishes.
End.
CoreWorlds
19-02-2005, 01:09
The Norn queen let out a large emp burst that kocked the incomming missiles guidance systems off line rendering them usless most detonating harmlessly others crusing to a stand still. Any large ordinence or plasma core rounds where intercepted by welljumping swarm ships protecting the Norn queen.
"Sir, the enemy is using EMP to burn through our missiles!"

"Very well. For all future volleys against this enemy, use dumb missiles!" Basically, all power was routed to engines so that despite jamming or other EMP, they could turn into ballastic missiles and detonate on impact. Won't work against fighters, but against moon-sized ships, they could hardly miss, especially when going at close to the speed of light at their highest speeds. (.85-90c any higher, and they disintegrate)

On board the 2 star destroyers that swarm ships had latched onto the same was happening on a smaller scale. thousands of harvesters raced along corridors and ventilation ducts slamming into the hapless crew members within minuetes they regained conciousness as part of the hive and began to detail weaknesses in the stardestroyers. The sheilds on the ships went back up 3 minuetes after harvest and the crippled ships began to open fire on hive for now reporting breaches in many sectors but that containment was in progress.
* SECRET *
On board these vessels the commanders that had been taken into the hive began releasing access codes to the sheilds and planets to the hive unleashing all the knowledge they could to the hive as quickly as possible.
As soon as the hive swarms attacked, the commanders knew the ships were doomed, and ordered an immediate and unrecoverable overloading of the reactors before the hive could capture the ships intact. However, the commanders only know the codes for their own ships, Base Delta Zero, and other basic-level codes every commander knows. If the hive wanted Master codes, they'd have to go to the Naval Command, but no self-respecting fleet would allow them to pass the Core borders without a full-blown war.

The EMP of the dying ships crippled about 10 more Star Destroyers, and the rest of the fleet surrounded them, still firing on the remaining swarmships and royal guard ships with missiles and turbolasers. The Commodore ordered complete destruction, and complete destruction is what the doctor ordered.

WE ARE THE HIVE, YOUR DESTRUCTION IS JUSTIFIED.

In a fit of amusement, the Commodore replied with a simple message:
WE ARE HUMANS. YOUR DESTRUCTION IS INEVITABLE.
Hive Fleet Imodius
19-02-2005, 03:18
As the norn queen died a huge emp burst flooded through the sustem hitting the zealot norn queen which had moved unoticied apparently into the enemy fleet. As the emp washed over the norn queen internal stabalisors flooded and collapsed the electronic stabalisors colapsing the mini star inside went nova. For a split second there was nothing as space distorted inwards towards the initial implosion pulling smaller nearby ships closer before the unstable star detinated. The shock wave rushed through the fleet expanding out and igniting the atmosphere's of nearby planets wiping out any record of existance within. It was an act of god controlled by the act of beasts. The Hive used norn queens with reserve but such a blow to any opponant could not be missed.

The Hive fleet Stopped and looked back to TFU space ceasing its expansions in other directions the great Invasion Force of Hive Fleet Imodius was rallied - 2 billion ships began to gather at various locations deep in hive space before locing onto populated planets deep in TFU space that had not yet been exposed to harvesters. Launching a Norn queen at each planet the hive began preperations to harvest TFU space. The battle force converged onto one attack point. While hive Fleet Alpha and Hive Fleet Bethamoth moved to the edge of the galaxy before comming in behind and to the sides of Coreworlds space launching an attack deep into coreworld space. The defences were expecting an attack from the main thrust but the rear was "perhaps" less prepared and the hive used codes of the two destroyers that where just lost as access alowing them to get far too close. The hive was going to clense this scum from the face of the universe and nothing was going to stop it. The hive was moving to war and called all other hive's in this region of the universe to assist in the total eradication of the human species.
It called out to those it would not normally call to for a final solution.

COMMS FROM HFI @ ALL NON HUMAN SPACE NATIONS:

WE ARE THE HIVE, WE ARE PERFECTION. The time has come to wipe the ugly smear that is the human race from the universe. For too long have we allowed them to reign as if they are the rightful empereors when they have no claim to such a thing.
WE ARE THE HIVE, WE WELCOME YOU TO US.

Allong with this message was sent a full detailed analysis of the human race including all of its flaws and weaknesses.


The hive would have its feast and this feast would be off the flesh of humans.

OPEN COMMS FROM HFI ON ALL RADIO AND AUDIO VISUAL BANDS:
We are the hive, The destruction of the human race is enevitable. However there is still hope for the civilians who have no say in the way of war. Tell your oppresive governments that they need only surrender and they will be spared the rath of the hive.
* The screen suddenly jumps to the image of rioters on a TFU planet with banners and plackards screaming in honner of the hive and the oppresive TFU government. The soothing voice of a soft spoken woman began to repeat over and over. Join the Hive and be spared its rath, show your oppresive government that you do not want war. Show them it is not your choice to die! The hive does not wish anyharm to civilians, the hive is on your side.
The voice of a coreworlds commander was then broadcaste screaming a war against the hive. He appeared on screen dressed in full CW uniform in the top corner was a CW military symbol. The man began to speak:
"We will destroy this menice no matter what the cost, we are perpared to spare the weak and feable of the outer ring in an attempt to protect the core worlds of our society. So long as our homeworld stands we shall prove strong."
Behind him a man screamed out "Sir we are losing mining colony [Insert name of colony here]"
The commander swore turning from the camera "Get our boys out of there!"
"But sir the civlians havn't had chance to board escape vessels."

The commander roared "To hell with them just get our boys out and get us out of here, the hive may be slowed down by....."
The transmission crackles out before starting again with the same propergander message.

This was flooded into the coreworld on all bandwith's nocking out satelight links and radio waves flooding all channels as it reapeated over and over.

From a flank as yet un attacked where a populated planet lay close to the CW boarder a light hail of asteroids skimmed the atmosphere. This had been predicted to happen for some months and coincided with a local big wig's birthday and so had been allowed to skim across the atmosphere.


ooc> The information here was completly generated from information gatherd from the stardestoryers before they where destroyed. The man was a commander, it was his clone controlled by the hive. All information give is 100% accurate according to what the hive lernt from all crew members absorbed into the hive.

i thought you might like to insert the name of an appropriate mining colony {tho we won't have chosen an abandond one}

No god mod here all posting is assuming if u have a query pls state it dont rant.

TFU in regards to what is happening you agreed to this when we signed the alliance agreement, by firing on hive ships you are in direct violation of this agreement and thus all derivatives there of have been put into action.
Dontgonearthere
19-02-2005, 03:31
OOC:
Two BILLION ships?
Pardon me, but:
"Captain! We have massive cardboard readings! MY GOD! ITS OFF THE SCALE! THEYRE CLOGGING THE INTAKES SIR! I CANNAE KEEP THE ENGINES GOIN!"[/scotty]
So, please explain how you manage two billion ships, with a population of 2.07 billion, and can say your not godmodding with a straight face.
Hive Fleet Imodius
19-02-2005, 03:38
OOC:
With pleasure:
HFI has always been and always will be what it says on the tin - INVASION FORCE thus it is 100% military with the exception of about 6 million transport vessels.
This has ALWAYS been the case, ask TFU ask Froggylisiousness ask any one i have rp'd with in the past.
The hive fleet CANNOT be sustaned for a long duration. Most of the population are swarm ships and these are mostly in hibernation untill they are required thus using 0.005% of standard energy intake. The large ships feed off radiation from nearby stars. They use the radiation much like chemosynthesis organisms would use chemicals. they simply used the instable molecules that are radiactive and the radio waves they realease to power chemical reactions.
CoreWorlds
19-02-2005, 03:40
Patriarch Alex Masaki realized that a great threat to the nation has occured when the Hive Fleet attack. The Old Master then convened an Emergency Council to call the Grand Fleet of the Imperial Republic to arms against this threat. The Super Star Destroyer Rasengan was sent to stop the main thrust of the attack by the numerous Hive ships. Before the enemy fleet could reach the first colony it sent forth a powerful volley of Gravity Missiles. Each gravity missile can detonate into a hungry black hole that actively swallows up any ship that it can grab. That's not all. The black holes can grow and grow and there's nothing anyone but the High Council and black hole physics can do to stop the blackholes from eating the Hive fleets. The High Council has the only codes to stop the growth of the black holes, and if they die, their secrets die with them.

The Hive fleet have been duped into believing that humans were weak. Now they will pay dearly for their insolence.

Meanwhile, the Sovereign II Star Battleship fleet was being prepared for combat against the enemy motherships. It's superlaser has 1/3 the firepower of the Death Star, meaning that at full power, it can destroy or fatally damage one of the hive moonships in one shot. And it could fire again in only 3 minutes of combat at a pinch, though 5 minutes is better. The Sovereign fleet moved out into hyperspace, going on the hunt against the motherships...
Corneliu
19-02-2005, 03:42
OOC:

I think it goes over the top myself but since you obviously want to have a fight, your going to get clocked by just about everyone here, I advise you to cease-fire before I decide to change tactics and engage you myself and bring in all available ships to smack you.
Hive Fleet Imodius
19-02-2005, 03:47
As the gravety torpedoes began to create the black holes space time stopped briefly as the hive trigged a massive flux moving spare around the hive instead of moving though it. Seconds later they where in the inner ring of plannets the fleet scatterd taking a populated planet each per norn queen.

ooc: That was a well jump. Ignores FLTi and can only be done once every 30 mins this figure drops by 30 seconds per hive vessel within 5,000 lightyears due to the extra psyche the close proximity provides. in this situation i have a -30 X 200: seconds so 6000 seconds off the timer. Thus recharge timer is 0 atm. Kill more ships slower recharge.
Corneliu
19-02-2005, 03:51
The remaining Corneliuan SHips unleashes a hail of anti-matter torpedoes at the Hive.

The admiral in charge finally had enough of trying to negotiate with the Hive and has decided to fire.
Hive Fleet Imodius
19-02-2005, 04:09
A small swarm of hive ships rushed out slamming into the incomming torpedo's the antimatter exploding and then becomming real matter but they detonated too far out to do any damage to the massive capital ships. From each one huge meteors began to rain down onto populated planets each one fragmenting outwards into debris that rained across entire planets scatterd by the atmosphere. Synaptic harvesters were unleashed from these fragments scattering across the planets.
The Fedral Union
19-02-2005, 05:14
And rping my nation?
Corneliu
19-02-2005, 05:16
OOC: Motion to ignore the Hive!
The Fedral Union
19-02-2005, 05:22
OOC: Motion to ignore the Hive!
i vote yes!!
Corneliu
19-02-2005, 05:28
OOC: Then lets move on to peace then shall we? Care to send someone over to talk?
Hakurabi
19-02-2005, 05:36
OOC: Shame I didn't have a chance to join in. Oh well. Anyway, from what I've read, Ignoring him is justified. Well, I can't plausibly join in until the next conflict, if/when it occurs.

Note to self... Ignore Hive Fleet Imodius
Dontgonearthere
19-02-2005, 05:59
OOC:
This message is hidden because Hive Fleet Imodius is on your ignore list.
Ahhh, sweet sweet ignore.
You guys should try this ^_^

IC:
If the nations formerly involved in this conflict require a place to conduct negotiations, Dontgonearthere will be happy to hold them. Dontgonearthe Castle is currently open and free, and Dontgonearthere has maintained a nuetral stance throughout the conflict.

OOC2:
Please ignore and typos and redundancy in my posts, Im a bit tired.
Corneliu
19-02-2005, 06:06
OOC:

Ahhh, sweet sweet ignore.
You guys should try this ^_^

IC:
If the nations formerly involved in this conflict require a place to conduct negotiations, Dontgonearthere will be happy to hold them. Dontgonearthe Castle is currently open and free, and Dontgonearthere has maintained a nuetral stance throughout the conflict.

OOC2:
Please ignore and typos and redundancy in my posts, Im a bit tired.

"We'll take you up on this. It is time to put our differences with TFU behind us and to form a lasting treaty with them."
Klington
19-02-2005, 06:17
OOC: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That Hive dude makes me laugh. Ill join the bandwagon and iggy him as well.
Dontgonearthere
19-02-2005, 06:26
OOC:
You want a new topic?
DGNT (at least, the capitol) is on Earth, just to let you all know. Its more convienient.
Hive Fleet Imodius
19-02-2005, 06:49
TFU: you asked me into this fight then didnt repond to ANY ic messeges i sent you then proceed to open fire on me, and you wonder why i am attacking u?

TFU : TARD

CW: Not your fault i was invited in by TFU but i would still expect better from you, use your noggin and act less like a 2 year old when somone takes away your toys

CW: Muppet


Dontgonearthere: What ever, just because i nailed u with half my fleet and you were proved wrong on about 16 counts of being a total cretin.

Dontgonearthere: Not worth it IMO



Any one else who posted (IGNORE): Well how right you must be - how about you read thru instead of just going, oh must be god mod.... yea..... to lazy to read...... yea what ever its a god mod.
and then 6 posts later
Oh wait did you say they were tribbles? i thought u said meganuke's of l33t haxoor d00m

oh sorry my bad...


GREAT, you guys are retarded rp's - buy a good FACTUAL BOOK about space and READ IT. you could lern alot from it. Like how earth actually goes AROUND the sun! OMG SHOCK HORROR!
Dontgonearthere
19-02-2005, 07:08
OOC:
Im going to assume that was some sort of flame, since it was posted in a thread where everybody clearly ignored you.
Look bub, you have a good idea going, but you DO godmod.
As another example of this, do you remember the thread a while back, where some people in my nation were auctioning off the I. Flamma virus?
The one where you teleported eighty bajillion bugs into the middle of the second largest city in my country, in what I clearly labled as a non-violent RP?
As I recall your lady cloned herself and took out eight security robots of quite a high class by herself...ah, and she had the little zippy bug things, that implant themselves in peoples spines.
That aside, its mostly for non-personal reasons. I dont like nations of giant organic ships, with zippy spine bugs. And fleets of two billion ships, or even the 'mere' hundred thosand 'moon sized' ships at the start.
Im quite sure you can find other people to RP with.
On a final note, this is NOT intended as a flame or troll, simply a more detailed explanation of my reasons for ignoring you. I realize that its nearly impossible to make such a post without trolling somewhat, but Im sure you understand.
The Fedral Union
19-02-2005, 07:19
TFU: you asked me into this fight then didnt repond to ANY ic messeges i sent you then proceed to open fire on me, and you wonder why i am attacking u?

TFU : TARD

CW: Not your fault i was invited in by TFU but i would still expect better from you, use your noggin and act less like a 2 year old when somone takes away your toys

CW: Muppet


Dontgonearthere: What ever, just because i nailed u with half my fleet and you were proved wrong on about 16 counts of being a total cretin.

Dontgonearthere: Not worth it IMO



Any one else who posted (IGNORE): Well how right you must be - how about you read thru instead of just going, oh must be god mod.... yea..... to lazy to read...... yea what ever its a god mod.
and then 6 posts later
Oh wait did you say they were tribbles? i thought u said meganuke's of l33t haxoor d00m

oh sorry my bad...


GREAT, you guys are retarded rp's - buy a good FACTUAL BOOK about space and READ IT. you could lern alot from it. Like how earth actually goes AROUND the sun! OMG SHOCK HORROR!


ENOUGH WITH THE FLAME BAIT NOW!



Enough of your crap this is an rp thread not a flame fest!
Hakurabi
19-02-2005, 07:57
I actually have no problem with organic races, it's simply a seperate race with different strengths, needs, and weaknesses, such as requiring significantly more organic materials. However, doing so is walking a very thin line of balance, as happens with all seperate races.

For example, I'll make a Organic race on the spot -

"Biolites"
Evolved on a world with very volatile evolutionary processes, and as a result, used tools to mould the evolution of plants and animals to suit their own needs. From there, their culture evolved rapidly until they ran into the problem of space.

Engineering massive plant/animal hybrids, they created creatures that could draw raw nourishment from their twin suns. Eventually developing solar sails and large carrying capacity, they traversed their system, most of the time near the inner system.

It was inevitable that conflicts of interest would occur in space, and since the sonic weapons they normally used were of no use in space, they began evolving war starfarers, utilising electrical discharges and detachable spikes.

When the race finally overcame their differences, they turned their efforts to the stars, working tirelessly for a way of crossing them.

Soon, one of their number figured out a way of storing nutrients for centuries, and several colony beasts were soon sent out in search for new and fertile worlds.

This proved inefficient, and they drew on the abilities of a predatory creature on one of the many colonised worlds. It used special organs that moved it faster than light to catch its prey, who had extremely keen eyes and would easily detect a slower predator.

Soon, all their ships had such organs, and they began crossing the stars, meeting many strange and fantastic peoples.
Xessmithia
19-02-2005, 08:39
Too bad the disadvantages of organic tech outway the advantages by several orders of magnitude.

Just think of it this way, would you rather have a tank with inorganic steel armor or organic wooden armor?
Klington
19-02-2005, 08:55
TFU: you asked me into this fight then didnt repond to ANY ic messeges i sent you then proceed to open fire on me, and you wonder why i am attacking u?

TFU : TARD

CW: Not your fault i was invited in by TFU but i would still expect better from you, use your noggin and act less like a 2 year old when somone takes away your toys

CW: Muppet


Dontgonearthere: What ever, just because i nailed u with half my fleet and you were proved wrong on about 16 counts of being a total cretin.

Dontgonearthere: Not worth it IMO



Any one else who posted (IGNORE): Well how right you must be - how about you read thru instead of just going, oh must be god mod.... yea..... to lazy to read...... yea what ever its a god mod.
and then 6 posts later
Oh wait did you say they were tribbles? i thought u said meganuke's of l33t haxoor d00m

oh sorry my bad...


GREAT, you guys are retarded rp's - buy a good FACTUAL BOOK about space and READ IT. you could lern alot from it. Like how earth actually goes AROUND the sun! OMG SHOCK HORROR!


Yeah, I did read your posts. And found them to be absolute crap and the stupidest bull I've ever seen. There I said, you happy? I didnt want to be an asshole, but you just cant STFU can you?

And P.S. Coreworlds is a renowned RPer and is probably one of the most famous RPers on nationstates, which just proves how much of a n00b you really are to think he didnt know how to RP.
Hakurabi
19-02-2005, 09:59
Actually, It's not steel/wood, it's more whether you make a machine that smelts iron and puts it on a tank, it's more an animal that refines iron and puts it in its skin. It's still steel, It's just put on a different way. Like using a tesla coil or a giant electric eel.
Xessmithia
19-02-2005, 14:42
Actually, It's not steel/wood, it's more whether you make a machine that smelts iron and puts it on a tank, it's more an animal that refines iron and puts it in its skin. It's still steel, It's just put on a different way. Like using a tesla coil or a giant electric eel.

An animal is going to have a several thousand degree forge to make steel inside them? Puh-lease, there is no way it could eat enough to get enough energy to do it.

I know we as humans like to think we're powerfull and special and that worls how we work must be better. But it's simply not true.

Cons:
- Orgainic things need constant supply of food/water/nutrients and the like. This reguires permeable membranes and lots of little tiny cappiliries to bring it to them. This makes for an amazingly weak structure.

- Extreme inefficiency. We're talking about 1% here, that's absolutely horrible.

- Extremely unprecise. Most humans have one leg shorter than the other, it just goes unnoticed. There is no way that organic technology could meet quality standards of modern industry let alone FT industry.

- Extreme sensitivity to chemicals and radiation.

Pros:
- Sounds cool.

- Can self repair extremely superficial damage. It can repair about the same amount of damage caused by something that wouldn't scratch dense metal armor sort of superficial.
Chronosia
19-02-2005, 14:59
If HFI is a Tyranid Hive Fleet, which I think he is then hes a vast bio-organic super entity linked by a gestalt conciousness. No free will; just the hive mind. It doesn't care whether its components live or die; only that it feeds; assimilates new biomatter and DNA to create more of itself....Gorging on its own brood if nessecary....I don't know much about 'Nids...because no one really knows the entireity of the ins and outs of Tyranid Bioscience....But I know a little
Corneliu
19-02-2005, 15:31
DNGT: Sure, make a new thread. I want this over with.

Hive: What you did constitute a godmod! Not only do you NOT have that many people to fight for you, but your breaking through planetary defenses and not even suffering casualties for it.

IC: "Well now that the fighting has stopped set a course for the Peace Conference."

"VEry well sir." and the course was laid in and the ship jumped to hyperspace.
Corneliu
19-02-2005, 15:36
Yeah, I did read your posts. And found them to be absolute crap and the stupidest bull I've ever seen. There I said, you happy? I didnt want to be an asshole, but you just cant STFU can you?

And P.S. Coreworlds is a renowned RPer and is probably one of the most famous RPers on nationstates, which just proves how much of a n00b you really are to think he didnt know how to RP.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=398941

Klington please post in this thread!
Unified Sith
19-02-2005, 16:09
Yeah, I did read your posts. And found them to be absolute crap and the stupidest bull I've ever seen. There I said, you happy? I didnt want to be an asshole, but you just cant STFU can you?

And P.S. Coreworlds is a renowned RPer and is probably one of the most famous RPers on nationstates, which just proves how much of a n00b you really are to think he didnt know how to RP.

I agree with you 100%. Coreworlds is one of the most accomadating roleplayers on Nationstates. If you can't get along with him, then there is something wrong with you.
Xenonier
19-02-2005, 16:22
I agree with you 100%. Coreworlds is one of the most accomadating roleplayers on Nationstates. If you can't get along with him, then there is something wrong with you.

Agreed. CW pulls of even the most horrible twists of fate with admirable tact, and his Rp's a pretty darn good. I'm a relative newbie and even I know that.
Dontgonearthere
19-02-2005, 17:02
Threads up:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=399027
Hakurabi
20-02-2005, 00:38
What's to stop bioengineers from making something that makes Carbon-60 and puts it in its skin? What's to stop them from fiddling about with their development to allow them to regrow their whole bodies throughout their entire lives? Heck, even a furnace is possible. Not to mention, that it is totally possible to surgically implant cypernetic implants. It's sort of like Mostly Biological, partly Mechanical, as opposed to mostly mechanical, and some biological.

Wires could be destroyed or shielded just as easily as veins and arteries. It's simply a seperate way of developing.
CoreWorlds
20-02-2005, 01:18
TFU: you asked me into this fight then didnt repond to ANY ic messeges i sent you then proceed to open fire on me, and you wonder why i am attacking u?

TFU : TARD

CW: Not your fault i was invited in by TFU but i would still expect better from you, use your noggin and act less like a 2 year old when somone takes away your toys

CW: Muppet


Dontgonearthere: What ever, just because i nailed u with half my fleet and you were proved wrong on about 16 counts of being a total cretin.

Dontgonearthere: Not worth it IMO



Any one else who posted (IGNORE): Well how right you must be - how about you read thru instead of just going, oh must be god mod.... yea..... to lazy to read...... yea what ever its a god mod.
and then 6 posts later
Oh wait did you say they were tribbles? i thought u said meganuke's of l33t haxoor d00m

oh sorry my bad...


GREAT, you guys are retarded rp's - buy a good FACTUAL BOOK about space and READ IT. you could lern alot from it. Like how earth actually goes AROUND the sun! OMG SHOCK HORROR!
I'm sorry, but do I hear a pot call the kettle black? I suggest you take a good long look at what you're saying, because you are obviously not practicing what you are preaching. Now let's see what people call those like you...oh yeah, hypocrite!

Oh yeah, in answer to your latest post:

The inner systems were alerted to the entry of the Hive, and ships carrying weapons known as Radioactive Anti-Insecthive Deneutralyzers (R.A.I.D.) began to shoot powerful green-blue energy bolts at the Hive Queens. R.A.I.D. is specifically designed to defeat even the toughest organic ships by reacting with their molecules and well, killing them, rendering them unable to function. Affects any crew of the ships as well. Shields are useless if they're created from organic creatures. Of course, R.A.I.D. is useless against anything metal like Star Destroyers, so the fleet attacking swarmships are fine.

Any ground Hive units are then wiped out by the military, Jedi, alchemists (Full Metal Alchemist types), wizards(think Harry Potter), ninjas (from Naruto) and angsty teenagers carrying any weapon they could find, including some odd ones like mallets and Giant Proton Cannons of Doom(tm).

The Hive has truly underestimated human ingenuity, and as it suffers the possibility of extinction, one must wonder if the Hive would still believe that they are perfection now.
The Cassiopeia Galaxy
20-02-2005, 01:25
To: CoreWorlds

If you want to kill off The Hive, I can give you a Deadly Viruis that can kill off everything on a Ship or Planet in just 24 hours.
Dontgonearthere
20-02-2005, 01:34
Nah, DGNT already unleashed its own super-anti-hive virus. You didnt see the post?
Xessmithia
20-02-2005, 03:33
What's to stop bioengineers from making something that makes Carbon-60 and puts it in its skin? What's to stop them from fiddling about with their development to allow them to regrow their whole bodies throughout their entire lives? Heck, even a furnace is possible. Not to mention, that it is totally possible to surgically implant cypernetic implants. It's sort of like Mostly Biological, partly Mechanical, as opposed to mostly mechanical, and some biological.

Wires could be destroyed or shielded just as easily as veins and arteries. It's simply a seperate way of developing.

Becasue the process that makes Carbon-60 can't be replicated by biological means.

No creature could survive, let alone repair, the massive damage that traditional things like nuclear warheads and chemicals can do.

Unless you put massive nuclear reactors in the animals, or some other means of generating massive amounts of electrical or thermal energy you can't make a furnace. Even if you did the radiation form the reactor would likely kill the animal and it would have to eat tons of material every second to keep it going.

Cybernetics is not the same as organic technology. It's biotechnology, things like artificial hearts fall into the same category. Organic technology is growing your own spaceships.

Veins and arteries are not the same as wires. They have to be flexible and made of semi-permeable materials so it can feed itself. They can't be shielded the same as wires.

Face it, organic technology is just not as strong or as flexible as inorganic "traditional" technology. We've tried organic technology, we stopped using it.

We no longer use wooden boats or ride giantly strong bred horses into a battle. There's a reason we switched to steel and internal combustion engines people.
NuMetal
20-02-2005, 04:47
Unless you put massive nuclear reactors in the animals, or some other means of generating massive amounts of electrical or thermal energy you can't make a furnace. Even if you did the radiation form the reactor would likely kill the animal and it would have to eat tons of material every second to keep it going.


Well...just for the sake of argument...a plant based construction...absorbing solar energy from stars and storing it.
TehInterwebGame
20-02-2005, 05:02
TO: CORNELIU:

FROM: ADMIRAL BOB, TEHINTERWEBGAME

We fully support this blockade and embargo, and will lend any assistance to your military if needed.
Xessmithia
20-02-2005, 06:06
Well...just for the sake of argument...a plant based construction...absorbing solar energy from stars and storing it.

They have those now. They're called crops. And in case you didn't notice no one uses wheat fields to run blast furnaces.
Hakurabi
20-02-2005, 07:05
Full Bio-Tech is more-or-less requires a totally different method of doing things. It would not be very difficult, for example, to engineer a bacterium that would eat through all the thick armour, or to tunnel into the reactor cores.

Likewise, blast furnaces and fusion reactors might not be used by their ships at all!

But please, could you stop with the wood examples?
Xessmithia
20-02-2005, 09:35
Full Bio-Tech is more-or-less requires a totally different method of doing things. It would not be very difficult, for example, to engineer a bacterium that would eat through all the thick armour, or to tunnel into the reactor cores.

Likewise, blast furnaces and fusion reactors might not be used by their ships at all!

But please, could you stop with the wood examples?

So you have bacteria that can eat armor. Good for you, now all I have to do is heat it up and kill them all through heat sterilization. Or heck I could just sit in space slowly rotating and let stellar radiation kill them all. Bacterium aren't tough. Thye need to form spores to survive sunlight. And bacterial spores don't act like their non-spore form.

I'd like to see organic ships create enough energy for FTL travel or to even make powerfull enough weapons to damage modern day military material, without some kind of high energy reactor source. Digesting proteins and starches won't cut it.

And why should I stop using wood as an example? It's organic and was used in technology. Sure we didn't breed it, but it demonstrates the weakness of organic technology nicely. Just because you don't like it, it doesn't make it less valid.
NuMetal
20-02-2005, 18:27
They have those now. They're called crops. And in case you didn't notice no one uses wheat fields to run blast furnaces.


Way to go, you didn't actually respond to the hypothetical situation that time
Xessmithia
21-02-2005, 06:52
Way to go, you didn't actually respond to the hypothetical situation that time

Maybe it's because you didn't think it through. We've been using plants to collect and store solar energy for millenia. Why do you think you get energy from eating plants?

Plants just don't store enough energy to make it worthwile using them as powerplants for industrial societies. They work great for midieval type socities but you won't be able to forge advanced metals, ceramics or make interstellar craft using plants for energy. You'd be better off building a Dyson sail to harness solar energy.
Hakurabi
21-02-2005, 07:22
Let's just stop arguing. It's hijacking the thread. It's all in proportion - like an arms race.

Race A makes armour. Race B makes lightning weapon that goes through armour. Race A makes armour that absorbs lightning. Race B makes bacteria that eats armour. Race A makes nanobots that destroy bacteria. Race B makes Amoeboids that envelop and destroy nanobots. Race A makes spray that kills protista. Race B makes protista that can survive spray. And so it goes on.

Race A makes hammer. Race B makes hides that withstand hammers. Race A makes Axe. Race B makes heated hides that burn handle of axe. Race A makes axes with metal handle. Race B makes skin that electrocutes handle. Race A makes throwing spear. Race B makes animals fast enough to avoid spears. Race A makes guns. Race B makes hardened shell that stops bullets. Race A makes a bazooka. Race B makes spines that shoot out that can blow up the rocket. Race A makes a nuke. Race B makes giant cockroaches. Race A makes a laser. Race B gives their cockroaches mirrored carapaces. Race A makes planes. Race B makes dragons. Race A makes Tokyo. Race B makes Godzilla.

Sorry about that last one. Just couldn't resist.
Xessmithia
21-02-2005, 07:37
Let's just stop arguing. It's hijacking the thread. It's all in proportion - like an arms race.

Race A makes armour. Race B makes lightning weapon that goes through armour. Race A makes armour that absorbs lightning. Race B makes bacteria that eats armour. Race A makes nanobots that destroy bacteria. Race B makes Amoeboids that envelop and destroy nanobots. Race A makes spray that kills protista. Race B makes protista that can survive spray. And so it goes on.

Race A makes hammer. Race B makes hides that withstand hammers. Race A makes Axe. Race B makes heated hides that burn handle of axe. Race A makes axes with metal handle. Race B makes skin that electrocutes handle. Race A makes throwing spear. Race B makes animals fast enough to avoid spears. Race A makes guns. Race B makes hardened shell that stops bullets. Race A makes a bazooka. Race B makes spines that shoot out that can blow up the rocket. Race A makes a nuke. Race B makes giant cockroaches. Race A makes a laser. Race B gives their cockroaches mirrored carapaces. Race A makes planes. Race B makes dragons. Race A makes Tokyo. Race B makes Godzilla.

Sorry about that last one. Just couldn't resist.

Why make Godzilla when you can fire bomb Tokyo into oblivion like the US did in WWII? And I agree we should stop arguing. Trying to knock some sense into you is giving me a headache.
Dontgonearthere
21-02-2005, 15:32
Since the former subject is gone, we can argue about dragons (You mentioned them, its your own damn fault.)

Dragons as flying creatures would be HUGELY impracticle. Think of the sheer amount of lift you would need to lift two tons of scales, bones, guts, not to mention a built-in furnace that was already argued about.
Unless dragnons have some other means of lift (Swamp Dragons :)) they would need wings the size of a cruise ship, and to move those wings they would need muscles the size of a motor home. Then they would have to eat roughly six villages per day to power those muscles, and their heart to keep blood pumping through those wings.
The furnace most likely helps a small amount, the whole hot-air rises bit, but unless they happen to have large amounts of helium/hydrogen in their blood...

Of course some people would just argue 'magic', but thats another arguement all by itself.
Chronosia
21-02-2005, 15:52
Of course if it was an african swallow, it could carry it...
CoreWorlds
21-02-2005, 16:36
Since the former subject is gone, we can argue about dragons (You mentioned them, its your own damn fault.)

Dragons as flying creatures would be HUGELY impracticle. Think of the sheer amount of lift you would need to lift two tons of scales, bones, guts, not to mention a built-in furnace that was already argued about.
Unless dragnons have some other means of lift (Swamp Dragons :)) they would need wings the size of a cruise ship, and to move those wings they would need muscles the size of a motor home. Then they would have to eat roughly six villages per day to power those muscles, and their heart to keep blood pumping through those wings.
The furnace most likely helps a small amount, the whole hot-air rises bit, but unless they happen to have large amounts of helium/hydrogen in their blood...

Of course some people would just argue 'magic', but thats another arguement all by itself.
Most dragons are quoted to have hollow bones, and other designs like birds. But that doesn't really jibe with their flight capability and diving-upon-unsuspecting-prey attacks, unless they act like giant scaly eagles. Actually, that's how I usually think of them, with their wings scaled up accordingly. Maybe the magic was originally fast-healing powers evolved and enhanced by some natural magic focus to aid in the other aspects of the dragon until they become the other sentient species on Earth. But that's just pure spectulation.

EDIT: Unfortunately, scaling up using bald eagles doesn't work, especially when you just realized that the wingspan is longer than a plane if the dragon is 30' long!
The Emperor Fenix
21-02-2005, 19:11
Of course the hydrogen produced by dragon would add to the lift.... :D
Hive Fleet Imodius
22-02-2005, 01:16
ok Dragons:
Large bat like wings for lift.
Fanned Tail for Steering.
Platinum Teeth to munch on Knights.
H2SO4 in stomach to digest Knights.
Hollow Bones.

Eat's a Knight, metal reacts with acid in stomach creating Hydrogen Gas creating internal ballast.

Flame: The Dragon releases a controlled beltch this ball of hydrogen streams out of the guts mixing with oxygen from the lungs, as this already volotile mixture of gases passes of the platinum teeth it ignights creating a ball of fire or a stream depending on the control the dragon has over the rate of gasious expulsion.


Bioorganisms would be used in modern warfare every day where it not for one simple thing. Geneva Convention. The use of chemical and biological weapons in warfare is ILLEGAL. Thus resurch into this receives less funding.
The hive doesnt have anything like this it makes what it wants when it wants it stripping planets of the core minerals it needs to create what it wants.

Also not being able to put minerals into organisms, dunno if you know this but that white stuff growing out of the end of your fingers, yea the hard stuff, thats 75% calcium 2% iron 1.5% Zinc along with a whole load of other crap. All it takes is for an organism to evolve to make a big sheet of that stuff allover itself using Titanium instead of Calcium is a small evolutionary change.

One prime example. Humans have red blood - Why? because of the iron in the blood. But Some insects have BLUE blood. Why? Because instead of Iron they use Copper.

Nothing is impossible, expand your mind and rememeber that the things in my fleet have had billions of years to evolve. Assuming we are in Star Treck Time humans havnt even had 1 million years.
The Emperor Fenix
22-02-2005, 01:18
Although of course my "humans" dont even come from this universe :D
Chronosia
22-02-2005, 01:24
Perhaps if it was too Swallows and they had it on a line...
NuMetal
22-02-2005, 04:42
Maybe it's because you didn't think it through. We've been using plants to collect and store solar energy for millenia. Why do you think you get energy from eating plants?

Plants just don't store enough energy to make it worthwile using them as powerplants for industrial societies. They work great for midieval type socities but you won't be able to forge advanced metals, ceramics or make interstellar craft using plants for energy. You'd be better off building a Dyson sail to harness solar energy.

Ok....I didn't mean just harvest wheat and throw it into a forge though. But yeah, if the swallows used a light weight line so as not to add extra mass....
Xessmithia
22-02-2005, 06:07
On dragons: If you muscle strength increases with the square of the size in crease while their mass increases with the cube of the soze increase.

Thus a giant, scaly eagle is being used I think, it would be say 10 times bigger. It would be 100 times stronger but 1000 times heavier. That would actually make the animal extrmemly weak. It would crush itself under it's own weight let alone fly.

It would have to eat several tons of food a day to survive, never mind blowing flame.

Of course all of this meaningless when the huge flocks of African Swallows are involved :p

On biotech creatures again:

HVI do you realize how little Iron is in your blood when compared to other elements like carbon and hydogen? Heck there's more Magnesium in your body than Iron.


Human Body Composition in percents

Oxygen - 65
Carbon - 18
Hydrogen - 10
Nitrogen - 3
Calcium - 1.5
Phosphorus - 1
Sulfur - .25
Potassium - .2
Chlorine - .15
Sodium - .15
Magnesium - .05
Iron - .006
Flourine - .0037
Zinc - .0032
.
A whole lot more later
.
Uranium - .00000013
Beryllium - .00000005
Radium - .0000000000001

There are a lot of heavy metals in humans, just not in large amounts.

As for hard shells, have you ever stepped on a bug? They have a hard exoskeleton but it is destroyed easily. Now if it was the size of a tank it'd be stronger but it would still be no match against steel armor and modern anti-tank rounds.

And it doesn't matter how long you've been at it, biological technologies and organisms are inherently weaker than heavy metal technologies. And yes somethings are impossible.
Hakurabi
22-02-2005, 08:46
There's no point arguing - I believe I am trying to knock sense into you, and vice-versa.

I would like to clarify that I am in no way am supporting Hive Fleet Imodius' blatant mockery of roleplaying. I will make it clear that I have blocked him, and have no idea of his latest excuses for his godmode.

They are both well suited to different areas, if not military. While it may be possible to engineer heavy weapons, and hydrogen reactors using biotech, it doesn't have quite the same potential. By 'arms-racing', it is possible to gain an upper hand over either technology type, but in the end result, it would probably be better to use one or the other in certain roles.

With mineral-tech, it would be difficult to match the growing speed of a 'kudzu city', and with bio-tech, it would be difficult to make armour piercing weapons.

As a result, bio-tech might make a star weed, making a very fast to build, tough enough to survive regular space, and mineral-tech could make a gun that blows it up. A Bio-tech city might need nutrients, but it can also recover from things like earthquakes and war semi-readily. Likewise, a Mineral-tech race might be able to make a city that can resist earthquakes, but if the quake overcomes the city, it would take a long time to recover. But the mineral-tech could create a device that stops earthquakes, or hovers so earthquakes can't get it.

On the topic of dragons, it could be possible, but they would have nowhere near the power of their mythical namesake. You could build a strong predatory scaled avian, but you could not make it have lasers and such. It might have some sort of spike launcher, or an electrical discharge, but not a flamethrower. A bacterial spray, or viral saliva might work, as might strong teeth.

A missile would kill it just as thoroughly as a regular plane, though it would have seperate methods of dodging. Whilst severely lacking in speed, it could maneuver up or down, turn a bit, or any of a variety of other things. Limited resistance to bullets may be possible, but it would be a strength-in-numbers game.

A very interesting tangent, no?

And swamp dragons indeed ^.^. Actually, you could send tough dragons out by mass-producing swamp dragons and 6km poles, and launching them like that. Whee!
Xessmithia
22-02-2005, 11:00
There's no point arguing - I believe I am trying to knock sense into you, and vice-versa.

Except I have science on my side. All you have is oragnic techwank fantasy, which is a result of modern sci-fi chic which is currently states, falsely of course, that organic technology is superior to heavy metal technology.
It's the same as the current chic with uber-gravity weapons.

I would like to clarify that I am in no way am supporting Hive Fleet Imodius' blatant mockery of roleplaying. I will make it clear that I have blocked him, and have no idea of his latest excuses for his godmode.

I never thought you suported him to begin with.

They are both well suited to different areas, if not military. While it may be possible to engineer heavy weapons, and hydrogen reactors using biotech, it doesn't have quite the same potential. By 'arms-racing', it is possible to gain an upper hand over either technology type, but in the end result, it would probably be better to use one or the other in certain roles.

Biotechnology is extremely good at medical apllications and killing people slowly through disease. Of course turning the latter into a weapon has its own challenges.

The heaviest weapon you could make with biotech is a bacterial plaque. In terms of infantry weapons anything otech can make will be practically useless against heavy metal tech. I'm not sure what you mean by hydrogen reactors, it could be a hydrogen combustion chamber, a fuel cell or a fusion reactor. The only remotely plausible option is the fuel cell. Of course that would require quite a bit of platinum which is rare, so it would be better off eating "normal" food like plants or other animals.

With mineral-tech, it would be difficult to match the growing speed of a 'kudzu city', and with bio-tech, it would be difficult to make armour piercing weapons.

I don't know what "Kudzu City" is but I do know that organic tech is very very slow in building things, and you can only make it so much faster before making it impractical. For example it takes 400 years for a Redwood to reach the same hight as a 30-story building we can build with heavy-metal tech in a abotu a year, 400 times faster than organic tech could do it. Heck it takes 20 years to grow a mature human, and if that goes too fast you get all sorts of bad things happening. So oragnic tech does not beat heavy-metal tech in the speed department.

As a result, bio-tech might make a star weed, making a very fast to build, tough enough to survive regular space, and mineral-tech could make a gun that blows it up. A Bio-tech city might need nutrients, but it can also recover from things like earthquakes and war semi-readily. Likewise, a Mineral-tech race might be able to make a city that can resist earthquakes, but if the quake overcomes the city, it would take a long time to recover. But the mineral-tech could create a device that stops earthquakes, or hovers so earthquakes can't get it.

Space is extremely harsh with extreme temperature changes, hard radiation and vacuum. Life is tough but not that tough, the only thing that could survive I can think of is spores.

I already showed how heavy-metal tech is faster than organic tech so your earthquake rebuilding scenario is moot. When it comes to say flooding I'd say heavy-metal tech is better because it wouldn't drown. When it comes to volcanic eruptions and firestorms they're the same. And after every disaster the heavy-metal tech city would recover orders of magnitude faster.
Hakurabi
23-02-2005, 07:46
Not necessarily... If you could fiddle about with the raw structure of things, you could set the biological clock to simply "expand", without slowing down. Think about this - humans grow very rapidly (comparatively) in the womb. If you figured out how to set the 'clock' to go faster and undergo mitosis at least twice, if not three times as fast until death or a certain chemical was injected.

Most natural growth slows down after a certain age - and cutting out the "slow down" and "die" parts of it, would allow it to theoretically become a sort of superweed.

Splicing and dicing the right genes would do it.

Actually, one side effect of biotech would be excellent survival kits - just make bacteria that actively convert waste gases into breathable ones, and make a little tin of "kudzu", actually a highly nutritious weed that can be grown with minimal supplies.

There have been very virulent diseases in the past, killing in one or two days. Use of bio-engineered diseases means that you can have it totally alien to the biological system of the other race, and transmit rapidly. That would do a LOT to kill morale, if it ate through armour and infected everyone.

Come to think of it, why am I arguing anyway? I'm a mechanoid race! Ah well.
Xessmithia
23-02-2005, 12:36
Not necessarily... If you could fiddle about with the raw structure of things, you could set the biological clock to simply "expand", without slowing down. Think about this - humans grow very rapidly (comparatively) in the womb. If you figured out how to set the 'clock' to go faster and undergo mitosis at least twice, if not three times as fast until death or a certain chemical was injected.

Most natural growth slows down after a certain age - and cutting out the "slow down" and "die" parts of it, would allow it to theoretically become a sort of superweed.

Splicing and dicing the right genes would do it.

Actually, one side effect of biotech would be excellent survival kits - just make bacteria that actively convert waste gases into breathable ones, and make a little tin of "kudzu", actually a highly nutritious weed that can be grown with minimal supplies.

There have been very virulent diseases in the past, killing in one or two days. Use of bio-engineered diseases means that you can have it totally alien to the biological system of the other race, and transmit rapidly. That would do a LOT to kill morale, if it ate through armour and infected everyone.

Come to think of it, why am I arguing anyway? I'm a mechanoid race! Ah well.


Didn't I say you could make them grow faster but that there wre limits on how fast you could get it before it became impractical and dangerous? Besides all that super-accelerated human embryonic growth has to take place in a special environment, it would be impractical to grow a city in a giant womb.

I agree on the rest. Those are things bio-tech is good at. Except the armor eating thing:P
Industrial Experiment
23-02-2005, 22:56
Xess, I'd like to make it very clear that I mean no offense with what I say here, but it needs to be said or else neither of you will stop.

Hakurabi, the problem you're facing is that Xess is a scientist, or at least very far along the path to becoming so. While scientists are among the smartest and most intelligent men and women in the world, it is a rare scientist who can readily think outside the box. I actually used to have a friend who enjoyed taking on the persona of a creature called "the Static Hamster".

Now, the Static Hamster is an odd little furball. It's a pan-dimensional housepet who's sole purpose in life is to make scientists blanch in horror and say, "Stop it! You can't do that, it's impossible!".

You see, the point is that scientists often become to grounded in the world they live in, too quick to label the impossible and move on. Imagination is something that, while still there, has become a tool instead of an escape, something utilitarian instead of amazing.

And again, I apologize, Xess, for any insult you might percieve from this, but I've encountered many like you. When you tell me something is impossible and I can't do it, I say to you as I said to them: "Watch me".
The Fedral Union
23-02-2005, 23:02
This thread is dead if you haveint noticed...
Industrial Experiment
23-02-2005, 23:04
The last post was less than twelve hours ago, you know.
Xessmithia
24-02-2005, 00:27
Xess, I'd like to make it very clear that I mean no offense with what I say here, but it needs to be said or else neither of you will stop.

Hakurabi, the problem you're facing is that Xess is a scientist, or at least very far along the path to becoming so. While scientists are among the smartest and most intelligent men and women in the world, it is a rare scientist who can readily think outside the box. I actually used to have a friend who enjoyed taking on the persona of a creature called "the Static Hamster".

Now, the Static Hamster is an odd little furball. It's a pan-dimensional housepet who's sole purpose in life is to make scientists blanch in horror and say, "Stop it! You can't do that, it's impossible!".

You see, the point is that scientists often become to grounded in the world they live in, too quick to label the impossible and move on. Imagination is something that, while still there, has become a tool instead of an escape, something utilitarian instead of amazing.

And again, I apologize, Xess, for any insult you might percieve from this, but I've encountered many like you. When you tell me something is impossible and I can't do it, I say to you as I said to them: "Watch me".

No offense taken. I'm actually very lenient and open minded, certain things just really really bug me. Mostly things like nanotech, and biotech being used to build ships rather than things they are good at. I take part in a great deal of impossibilites here on NS. It's just the patently absurd things I tend to mention.

And like the famous quote goes, "Keep and open mind, just not so open your brains fall out."
Yugoslavitania
24-02-2005, 02:56
The Grand Alliance government has decided to assist Corneliu in its blockade against The Fedral Union.The Grand Alliance urges all nations helping The Fedral Union to stop assisting and back down.The Fedral Union must back down and suspend hostilities or face a military response from the Grand Alliance.
Courtesy of The Premier of The Grand Alliance,
Robert Barker
CoreWorlds
24-02-2005, 03:01
The Grand Alliance government has decided to assist Corneliu in its blockade against The Fedral Union.The Grand Alliance urges all nations helping The Fedral Union to stop assisting and back down.The Fedral Union must back down and suspend hostilities or face a military response from the Grand Alliance.
Courtesy of The Premier of The Grand Alliance,
Robert Barker
OOC: Too late.
Corneliu
24-02-2005, 04:08
TFU:

POST inthe peace conference thread please!
Hakurabi
24-02-2005, 10:42
It's perfectly possible to have it eat through armour - give it a little payload of acid.

My point here is that whilst bio-tech is NOT exactly the best thing to use for starships, it can be done, with rudimentary weapons. Nowhere near the effectiveness of heavy metal tech, but given the right adjustments and technology, it could be done.

That doesn't mean it's any good at it, but it still can.

A cannon that destroys itself when firing is still a cannon, no?

For me, nano-tech is used primarily in a 'medical' sense, fixing wiring and all those little pock-marks picked up in space travel, and eliminating any foreign bits of dust or nanobots that could cause trouble. Similar to an immune system.

The thing is, Nanobots are not exactly the best thing to jam into a missile, even if they survived - especially the "all consuming" variety. That quickly goes from a little problem into a rather LARGE problem if not dealt with immediately.

For BOTH sides.
Ghost Recons
25-02-2005, 02:10
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Dontgonearthere
25-02-2005, 02:14
All nations in the Grand Alliance have mobilized troops for war in support of Corneliu. Yesterday shortly after Yugoslaitania's announcement a naval division was sent to strenghten the naval blockade of TFU. The naval division consisted of 300 Destroyers, 250 Battleships, 400 Hydrofoils, 200 Submarines, 150 Trident Submarines, and 50 Aircraft Carriers. The naval divison arrived off the coast of TFU this afternoon at 6:30. The Grand Alliance will not hesitate to retaliate if attacked or threatened.


President of the Grand Alliance,

Ghost Recons
Will n00bs ever cease to amuse?
Corneliu
25-02-2005, 02:16
Will n00bs ever cease to amuse?

I guess someone didn't get the messege that this is in space?
Ghost Recons
25-02-2005, 02:20
Shut up you freakin prep, lets see you post somethin.
Dontgonearthere
25-02-2005, 02:23
I have almost five thosand posts of 'something', see that little 'search' button? Yeah, search my name.
Enjoy the amazing smackdown that is Dontgonearthere.
now, if you will kindly not flame, I will very politly point out that a while back this thread was givin up upon because Hive Fleet Imodius was godmodding, so TFU and Cornielu agreed to peace.
Sadly, TFU has yet to post in the diplomatic thread.[/subtlehint]
Ghost Recons
25-02-2005, 02:29
The Grand Alliance is calling off all help for Corneliu. Forget all previous statments.