NationStates Jolt Archive

OOC: This is for the generalized IC stuff, declarations, discussions, secret messages, fortifications, political decisions, etc etc etc.

When it comes down to starting war or invading somebody, try and start your own thread to keep it clean. I'll keep a list of Threads here so that everybody knows where to find things, just Telegram the nations who you are involved with, and make sure it says WWII or World War II on the title.


OOC Thread
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=380937&page=1&pp=15


IC Threads
War with Italy (WW2) (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7729980)
Invasion of France (WW2) (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=383601)
Invasion of Greece (WW2) (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7775418#post7775418)


List of Important Nations

Allied Nations:

United Kingdom + Colonies - Kanabia
France + Colonies - New Scott-land
China - Soviet USSR
Norway - Cotland
The Netherlands (Holland) + Colonies - Warta Endor
Belgium and Luxembourg - Lachenburg
Canada - Delancy
South Africa - Ollieland
Syria - Dhulus
Australia and New Zealand - Anneburg
Denmark
Brazil
India


Axis Nations:
Germany - Tomzilla
Italy - Jagonia
Finland - Lucifir
Japan - [b]Tenarius


Neutral Nations:

Ireland - Wiatava
U.S.S.R. - Pushka
United States - Sharina
Spain - Spain
Turkey - Hanseania
Sweden - Miirland
Mongolia - Saint Beutocelli
Switzerland - San Lucia
Latvian, Estonian, and Lithuanian Partisans - East Lithuania
Greece - Gloxinia
Mexico - Truitt
Romania
Hungary - Anti-Nazis
Bulgaria
Yugoslavia

OoC:Well, so we're on then. Time to see what we can do with Turkey then, as the rest of Europe stands on the brink of bloody war...

I'm going to have to cut my first message here short, as I find myself bereft of the time to properly formulate a good IC response. Anyway, here are a few pointers to begin with...

1. The Turkish navy (small though it might be) moves to block the sea-passage by Constantinople, thus effectivly denying any axis/allied ships entry into, or out of, the Black Sea.

2. After studying a few old maps of various fortress designs, the Turkish Prime Minister Inònù gives the all green signal for the coastal batteries of Constantinople city to be fortified and expanded, also adding an additional force of 2000 volunteer soldiers to it's regular Garrison.

3. Tenarius, I'll send you a TG when I get the time.

More OoC: In case anyone wonder, the information I've found on the Turkish naval forces comes up on 3 Battleships, 8 Destroyers, 1 Cruiser (questionable), and finally (surprisingly) - 8 Submarines.

Finland throws its forces into the fight

in the protection of its homeland finland moves about 75,000 men to the fin border to start digging in for the Russian onslaught.

the men get to work digging tenchworks over 50 miles long, "If the russians want to come into finland than they'll have to run over there own dead to enter!" shouts Field Commander Neighoff.

supporting the trenchworks are over 400 25 pound Howiters all within close range of the trenches (they can lay down a great suppresive fire for anyone foolish enuff to "bring it on"

Planes are stationed at 2 airfields 25 miles behind these lines and can be launched within minutes of a raid until than the AK-AK guns will have to hold up alond the defensive edge and protect both the guns and men. 5 AK-AK per 2 Howiters

of the 75,000 footmen they breakup in the following ranks

1000 per regiment for a total of 75 regiments each with a perticular area of line to hold UNDER all cost

each regiment conists of 10companys consisting of 100 men each (that is as small as i am breaking it down for OPERATION: HOLD FAST (protection of FInland from aggresive Russia

100 men have the following weaponry

each man has:
1x German Mauser

x300 bullets (note) in the defensive postion supply lines hidden in the thick forest can deliever whatever the footmen need in a minutes notice other than that they have a fine supply of ammo

1x1911 Colt (leftovers from the Great War not the newer version the US has)

1x Panzerfiest (its light weight makes it mobile and yet highly effiective everyman has atleast one, some may carry more)

In the Comapany:

3 machine gun crews (3men each forthe clumsy but deadly MG-40, one for ammo, one for the tripod and carries yet more ammo, and finally the gunner, for a total of 9 men)

30 men have the MP-44 OR a American Thompson these are a rare find in the Fin Army so many just 4 out of thirty have them (these are simply for supresive fire

50 men are left to be riflemen and they take there job deadly serious. they know they are the ones who will take it to the Russians if they breach the defenses (they all have the mauser bayonet if things get dangerous as well as a long trench knife)

the remaining 11 men are the Sharpshooters (they have the powerful Gewr 43 and they have trained with it for months now (the whole infantry is a crack unit)

2 Company Commanders are issued to each company and they have the Thompson

All this will take about 1 month (ns time) which is 1 hour real time i believe so at 12 oclock midnight (im eastern time) these defenses will be operational :sniper:

As for the remaining 625k men i keep them behind lines and put around 20k in a camp besides the sweden, norway, fin borders they have much th same weaponry only do not really have the defensive works of the Eastern Front the western front is (for now)neglated

The middle aged Syrian stands within his small adobe home in the better part of Damascus. his white robes and head covering highlight his dark complexion and grim face. With him 2 younger military men in French soldier uniforms of the second lieutenant bow quickly and one starts speaking quietly in a hushed tone.

"Shukri al-Kuwatli, we have returned from our patrol of the Eastern borders and have much to report. The word from the merchants is true. The forces of the Christians are moving again. And as once passed long ago I fear that we will be once more subject to the arrogance of their worthless greed."

He pauses to take a breath and start again but Shukri al-Kuwatli places a hand on his shoulder and speaks calmly, "Child, you need not fear what they are dying for. It has little to do with us and if anything we will be abel to gain further profits from their wasted coin and help our own people from the servitude that we face under these imperialist dogs. I much look forward to the day that our people can stand firm on our own soil without the whippings from those greedy white westerners who treat us with such indignation." He turns to look out a small window that faces to the East and the Mediterranean in the far off distance.

" I would not concern your self at this time, just be patient and listen with both your ears, and watch closely. Watch with eyes on all things. Patience is one thing that these foreigners do not possess. It will be their own downfall, and our own stairway to Allah's dream of a united nation under Muslim guidance."

OOC: Since this is officially my first RP post, in NS, let me know if/when I do something I'm not allowed to do. Thanks. Also, I'm going to presume that the day starts at the very start of May 10th. At the moment I'm still searching for Specific's, so this will have to do.


Following a decision vaguely made in a meeting on May 9th, orders to begin trying to reorganize French tanks into several independant commands(A copy-cat of what was seen done by the Germans in Poland) were sent out to all French commanders. This move would take several days and was made on the advice of General DeGaulle.
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Meanwhile, France re-considers its stance on the Belgium Border, and decides to send the following Message:

Dear our Belgium Friends,

In light of the recent German aggression, we once again request permission to move troops into your territory to set up for the nearly invietable German Invasion. This is our last request, which if refused may result in France looking after her own interests first. We look forward to having your cooperation on this security matter that concerns us both.

My Regards,
Reynaud
-Presiding President of the Council
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Finally, 3 new orders were placed to Frances various armed forces.

Troops in Southern France are to rally close to Marseille, this includes all French Navy forces currently attached to the Mainland along our Southern Coast. Upon reaching there, they are to maintain an active alert, and be prepared to move out to reinforce French Forces anywhere along the Southern line. Troops in North Western France are to move to Caen, and following the same orders as the Southern Troops, are to be ready to reinforce anywhere in the Northern Line. Naval Forces along our Northern and Western Coastline are to move to Bayeux and maintain a high alert Status. Any troops whom are remaining in central France are to report to Reims.
(OOC: This is mainly to centralize those troops which were positioned in random places. I'm not sure where they were prior to invasion, so, this way I net them all into 3 locations.)

All troops are now expected to implement a extensive training program. This is largely based upon fitness and accuracy programs. No more than half a clip for any weapon should be expended for each trooper. Although this will put a severe pressure on our ammunition in the long term, French High Command feels that it is a worthwhile objective. We expect training to take anywhere from two weeks to several months depending on the unit and status. Units which are moving are not expected to do any official training, however taking the iniative in this matter is now STRONGLY encouraged.

All French Colonies are requested to be prepared to offer their support for the war effort, and those in Asia are being upgraded to a Medium (Yellow?) Status, with regards to the Japanese aggression against the Chinese. Although no large aggression is expected, all troops in these areas please be aware, and commanders prepare defensive plans for each of your sections to be submitted within one week.

OOC: I see nothing wrong with that post. I'm still gathering up some different pieces of information on Japan in 1940; I'll post tomorrow methinks.

"Field Commander Neighoff": Dammit the damn ground is nothing but mud, digging into these grounds will take alot more time than previosuly thought"

ForWard HQ: (loud sigh) We NEED those defensives ready by the expected deadline without them our western border is fully exposed now GET TO DIGGING NEIGHOFF!!!!!!!!!!!

"Field Commander Neighoff" I dont no if i can get the work done by myself but if i put the nereby city of Coron (40,000) to work, we could probally have the defenses fully operational inone month to this day! The city is a industrial center for the war effort afterall it isnt like they dont have the heavy machinery we lack

Forward HQ: great plan implement it at once and get all able body workers up into the region for construction and ill hold u to that deadline and i mean it this time!

"Field Commander Neighoff" Great we have a plan than and with the help of the townspeople we can sorely get this trenchwork laid but it will take a day (NS) to get them up here. Other than that were good on the West Front, no movement at ALL.

"Forward HQ": O and Neighoff not that it concernes you but, we are moving out the battleships and lineing them aroud the fin coast to safegaurd the fin coastline and harbors, the tides of war are opon us after all. (battlefleet consists of 10 BM-7 Arkansas Class and again they are Great War leftovers that have been implemented by the Fins) :sniper:



(read the reason for editing if u dont understand y i delayed it but as far as the rest of the guns and planes and crews stuff go that couldall be put in OVERNIGHT but digging trenchwork is usally long and extensive work)

Her Majesty Queen Wilhelmina of Holland was already worried for a few year about the agressive tactics of the Germans. Sadly, however, most of the dutch think that they will be neutral in the comming war as they were in the first world war. Since the actual begining of the war after the attack on Poland, the dutch made some light preparations, like the famous (but useless) Hollandse waterlinie (flooding low lying country and make use of the rivers) and Fort Holland. (basicly some WWI era fortifications defending the 4 main cities) 300000 men were drafted in the army, trying to defend Holland. Holland almost has no planes (124) and 4 very old tanks. The dutch navy however was ready for any attack.

Wilhelmina: "I'm worried about a possible German attack. Can't we bring troops from the Netherland Antilles and Indonesia to Holland to reinforce our position here?"
Chief of Staff (I'm trying to find the name):"Well, that would probaly just weaken our posistions oversea. I think we have to hold out with the troops we have."

OOC: I found this useful and thought i'd share it: http://www.bjornetjenesten.dk/teksterdk/ww2.htm

SECRET IC AVAILABLE TO ALLIES: British forces have evacuated southern Norway, but plans are drafted and units prepared to invade Narvik to deny the use of the strategic port to the Kreigsmarine, specifically its U-Boat flotillas.

Aircraft production is focusing on interceptors such as the Spitfire and Hurricane. However, a special bomber task force is being set up to raid German industry in the Rhine.

More units are being prepared to be transferred to France incase of an assault by Germany.

OOC: I found this useful and thought i'd share it: http://www.bjornetjenesten.dk/teksterdk/ww2.htm

SECRET IC AVAILABLE TO ALLIES: British forces have evacuated southern Norway, but plans are drafted and units prepared to invade Narvik to deny the use of the strategic port to the Kreigsmarine, specifically its U-Boat flotillas.

Aircraft production is focusing on interceptors such as the Spitfire and Hurricane. However, a special bomber task force is being set up to raid German industry in the Rhine.

More units are being prepared to be transferred to France incase of an assault by Germany.

OOC. useful site! Thanks for the tip. I going to do something what in RL Holland would never dor because they were afraid to lose their neutral posistion.

***TELEGRAM TO THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED KINGDOM***

Greetings dear friends. We fear a possible German attack on Holland coming very soon. We would like to ask your support in building up a good air force and possibly sending some troops to help defend Holland or Vesting Holland. For the help of the air force build up we would like to ask your permission to send 500 Pilots to England and let them get training there. If possible we would also like to get the groundcrew trained and ofcourse by the most neccesary thing needed for a Air force: planes. Our main concern is our defensive ability of our air force so those new fighters your building, the spitfire and the hurricane, would be a great help.

Yuors, Prince Bernhard van Lippe-Bissterfeld, Prince of Oranje Nassau etc.

***TELEGRAM TO THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED KINGDOM***

Greetings dear friends. We fear a possible German attack on Holland coming very soon. We would like to ask your support in building up a good air force and possibly sending some troops to help defend Holland or Vesting Holland. For the help of the air force build up we would like to ask your permission to send 500 Pilots to England and let them get training there. If possible we would also like to get the groundcrew trained and ofcourse by the most neccesary thing needed for a Air force: planes. Our main concern is our defensive ability of our air force so those new fighters your building, the spitfire and the hurricane, would be a great help.

Yuors, Prince Bernhard van Lippe-Bissterfeld, Prince of Oranje Nassau etc.

OOC: No problem. If anyone can find a site that details what aircraft Britain had in 1940, it would be a big help. I know fighters, and tactical bombers, but I need to know Strategic bombers and their capabilities- now, I know only names, the Wellington and Wellesley, I believe.

IC:

Official Response to the Government of Holland

We will immediately ship 100 Gloster Gladiator Biplane fighters, and 40 Faery Battle tactical bombers. We would be happy to host a pilot training program teaching the use of our Hurricane fighters, which we can plan to ship at a later date. Unfortunately, numbers of Spitfire fighters are currently low and currently unavailable for export.

We believe that antagonising the Germans with troop deployments on your territory may entice the Germans to invade before Holland is ready to defend itself, though arms shipments probably would not provoke them to this degree. In the meantime, we will grant you 40 new Valentine tanks and our reassurance that we stand ready to defend your nation in the event of a German invasion.

ooc. check the RAF site:http://www.raf.mod.uk/history/ac_hist.html it isn't very much but it is a start.

***TELERGAM TO THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED KINGDOM***

We thank you for your support given. We are happy with the fighters and we hope you can provide us with Hurricanes after the training of our crew and if you can produce enough. We understand your concerns but we belive if have accurate information that Holland, Belgium, Luxemburg and France will be attacked soon. (in RL, a Dutch embassy official was befriended with a high ranked German officer who warned the official that Holland would be attacked. He reported it to The Hague but nobody of the government believed him. I will Rp that some of us believed him) We give you permission that you may bomb Dutch territory that is captured by the Germans. Wouldn't it be a idea that a quick reaction force could be waiting in the English ports and if we are invaded they cross over to us?

Secret IC to those with a heavy intelligence presence in Turkey (none?) :

After several days of closed council with his Military Advisors, the Turkish Prime Minister supervises the founding of the organisation known as "Roshaniya" (i.e. the illuminated ones") The members of this organisation consists of any person regardless of sex, age, or religion who are found willing to serve and obey the Turkish cause.

OoC: Anyone with any knowledge reguarding the organisation called, "The Black Hand" in Bosnia 1914? Immagine something along those lines.

The goals of the Roshaniya- organisation are as followed:

1. To conduct missions of sabotage and espionage against the designated enemies of the Republick of Turkey.

2. To infiltrate any percieved threats to the continued soveregnity of the Republick of Turkey, both internal and external.

3. To pave the way for Turkish expansion into such areas as were controlled in previous years by the forces of the Ottoman Empire.

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One month afterwards, 4 Roshaniya operatives land by boat in the small Siryan city of Baniyas without incident (FoD permitting of course, if anyone has a say against this, I will happily change it)

OOC: Hi, this is my first RP, so if I do anything wrong then tell me. All ship classes etc. taken from www.comandosupremo.com. Oh, BTW, did you know that before WWII Mussolini was a Knight of the British Order of the Bath?!

(Secret?) IC: After careful consideration, Il Duce Mussolini decided that the most strategic move would be this: Firstly, the navy: A large naval group will move to the British occupied Straights of Gibraltar. The force shall consist of:

3 Aosta- class light cruisers
1 Trento- class heavy cruiser
1 Zara- class heavy cruiser
2 Italian smg Submarines

However, before the main detatchment attacks, 2 "Maiale"- class Human Torpedos will attack the British Docks.

Also, in the Italian territory of Abyssinia in Africa, a military detatchment of troops, artillery, armour and planes will be formed. Hoped estimates of complete force:

150, 000 Troops
1, 000 Artillery Cannon
200 Tanks
300 Fighter Planes
100 Bombers

Welcome Jagonia! I was surprised about the fact and I'm think you're RPing good, so....a very good start!

Thanks!! :)

In order to expand the defenses, 50000 men will be send to the river IJssel to build trenches and other fortifications. The forces will be equipped with the Schwarzlose 08/15 machine gun. 5000 troops and 30 of the 40 valentine tanks given to Holland by the United Kingdom are being send east of the IJssel the try to stop a possible German attack before it reaches any of the defence lines.

ps. I found a usefull map showing al the dutch RL defence lines but I can't upload the file, it says the filetype is incorrect.

To All Allied Forces throughout Europe,


In order to ensure Canada's security in this time of great war, it is in Canada's best interest to 'beef up' defenses along the Atlanctic border of Canada. Coastal artillary as well as forts and infantry camps are currently being set up along the coast. These facilities are expected to be completed within the next three months. Also, production of several warships (5) will begin tonight. This small fleet will be used primarilly (and hopefully in junction with the US Navy) To escort Canadian troops to Britain (The United Kingdom) This fleet will be expected to be completed within the next seven to ten months. We hope to become a very formidable military that will help win battles all over Europe. That is all information on Canada as of now.

To ; Winston Churchill, London
From ; General Smuts, Praetoria

Whilst it is the duty of the Dominion of South Africa to offer all aid and assisstance to the aqny British operations anywhere in the world, I would remind you of our own security duties, both within the Union of South Africa itself and in German SW Africa, mandated to us by the League of Nations. We are ready to provide 2 Infantry and one armoured divisions for use in any possible operations in Africa or the middle east, say Palestine, Egypt or British Somaliland. However, we would ask foe protection in transpoerting these troops from the Royal Navy Indian Ocean Squadron.

Shukri al-Kuwatli looked back at the two sons of his brother in law Ferkai. They were dedicated and asked no questions. The perfect people to perform this mission.

"Aman and Dthiloh, I have need of your services and dedication for a unique opportunity to offer your people and that of Allah himself. It is the judgment of the most holy and pious of our people that our true calling is our own self determined destiny. So I will write two letters for you to deliver to men of known repute within our nation that have purposes that will serve our interests by divisive goals. please stay for a moment."

Shukri sets to his desk and writes out two letters that will be delivered by hand. He takes several minutes to compose them perfectly and with fine penmanship in Arabic then seals them separately in envelops and hands one letter to the two 16 year old boys.

Shukri stands and looks upon the boys fondly as if his own, "May Allah bless and watch over you. Go now." He turns and watches the window once more at a Greek transport that is in the port coming to harbor to dock and unload imports. The two young men head out promptly to the merchant district for thier contacts.

OOC: Since this is officially my first RP post, in NS, let me know if/when I do something I'm not allowed to do. Thanks. Also, I'm going to presume that the day starts at the very start of May 10th. At the moment I'm still searching for Specific's, so this will have to do.


Following a decision vaguely made in a meeting on May 9th, orders to begin trying to reorganize French tanks into several independant commands(A copy-cat of what was seen done by the Germans in Poland) were sent out to all French commanders. This move would take several days and was made on the advice of General DeGaulle.
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Meanwhile, France re-considers its stance on the Belgium Border, and decides to send the following Message:

Dear our Belgium Friends,

In light of the recent German aggression, we once again request permission to move troops into your territory to set up for the nearly invietable German Invasion. This is our last request, which if refused may result in France looking after her own interests first. We look forward to having your cooperation on this security matter that concerns us both.

My Regards,
Reynaud
-Presiding President of the Council
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Finally, 3 new orders were placed to Frances various armed forces.

Troops in Southern France are to rally close to Marseille, this includes all French Navy forces currently attached to the Mainland along our Southern Coast. Upon reaching there, they are to maintain an active alert, and be prepared to move out to reinforce French Forces anywhere along the Southern line. Troops in North Western France are to move to Caen, and following the same orders as the Southern Troops, are to be ready to reinforce anywhere in the Northern Line. Naval Forces along our Northern and Western Coastline are to move to Bayeux and maintain a high alert Status. Any troops whom are remaining in central France are to report to Reims.
(OOC: This is mainly to centralize those troops which were positioned in random places. I'm not sure where they were prior to invasion, so, this way I net them all into 3 locations.)

All troops are now expected to implement a extensive training program. This is largely based upon fitness and accuracy programs. No more than half a clip for any weapon should be expended for each trooper. Although this will put a severe pressure on our ammunition in the long term, French High Command feels that it is a worthwhile objective. We expect training to take anywhere from two weeks to several months depending on the unit and status. Units which are moving are not expected to do any official training, however taking the iniative in this matter is now STRONGLY encouraged.

All French Colonies are requested to be prepared to offer their support for the war effort, and those in Asia are being upgraded to a Medium (Yellow?) Status, with regards to the Japanese aggression against the Chinese. Although no large aggression is expected, all troops in these areas please be aware, and commanders prepare defensive plans for each of your sections to be submitted within one week.


Brussels Belgium

Lieutenant-Général Baron de Ceuninck, a man of many responsiblities, entered the Old Ministry of War Building, with a look of anger on his face. Stomping up to his office, he grumbled and mumbled, shoving people out of his way.

Reaching his small corner office on the third-floor, Ceuninck slammed the door shut and fell into his reddish-brown leather chair. After getting confertable, he stared out the window for a time.

It was a groggy spring day, sheets of rain falling on the old capital, its stone monoliths looking even gloomier than before. Liting a cigar, he span around and began another days work.

However, Ceuninck noticed that the first file on his desk was titled: TOP PRIORITY. Delicatley opening the file, he scanned the first two pages. France wants to use us as an invasion route! Bloody hell, we'll get trampled by the Krauts, just like we did twenty years ago! The General thought to himself, in outrage.

His cheeks were now a blood red, as untold quanities of blood rushed to his head. Grasping the folder with his left hand, he threw it across the room and continued to pout in his chair.

" SECRETARY! GET UP HERE!" The enraged general shouted.

Within moments, a tall, lanky man of 23 years sprinted through the door way and promplty stood to attention.

" What do you need sir?"

" I want you to dictate a message for me, Lieutenant." Ceuninck replied, stamping out his cigar in the silver ash tray, near his desk.

Pulling out a small pad of paper, the anxious Lieutenant began to jot down the General's statement

---Statement to the Republic of France, May 10, 1940----

Dear French Associates,

Due to the present demeanor of the Germany army, along with our past experiences in fighting them. Belgium feels that it is in our best interests to remain neutral in this conflict and thus rejects the French Army's ability to place troops within our border. We hope that you will respect our neutrality in the coming conflict.

Signed,
Baron de Ceuninck
Lieutenant-Général
Belgian Ministry of War

----Statement ended----

A secret letter from the French rebellion leader Shukri al-Kuwatli to the German spy network in Damascus

It is with great relief that we hear of the events within the European continent bring great fortune to your people. And so I Shukri al-Kuwatli, look to tap a great power such as your to gain independence from the French dogs that attempt to rule over our people with arrogance and despicable imperialistic weight. We have 15,000 dedicated troups that wish to unite with the backing of your nation and toss the French from our borders and set up our own trade with the foriegn powers.

We ask for your aid because we will head to the highest mountains, and from the mosc of each city to gather our people and form a single power that would master the sands of the famed Byzantine lands. To sertve as a secure ancient land of history from the forces of the French and British who would wish to assure a clear path of oil transport from our powerless empires.

Our own nationalistic peoples wish to be free and trade with those who's might would be most awesome and illuminating. We humbly beseech you to come to the rescue of a nation of people who wish to unite the world under one nation.

Thank you for your attention and prompt response.

OOC: *Curses loudly* It took out my post :headbang: because it logged me out!

OOC: *Curses loudly* It took out my post :headbang: because it logged me out!

OOC: Ah, welcome to the real Roleplaying world. I can't tell you how many posts I have lost due to accidental logouts, computer/internet crashes, server problems, etc etc etc.

I've taken to writing up most of my posts in Word or Wordpad and then transferring them once I'm ready to post.

:sniper: With the main western defensees finished attention can now be directed opon holland...

"Foward HQ": Neighoff we've noticed a siezable troop movement by the Holland Armies, we have dicided to move the 20,000 men. (they've been there since late night last night) We will have them set up on the border, as for defenses we can not allocate the resoucres we used in the Western Line so the eastern front will be simply defensive.

Field Commander Neighoff: SO basically your simply gonna sit them out there to wacth out for ANY movements from Holland?

"Forward HQ": Correct but one major order that is to be followed to the word, "IF the enemy shoots, engages, or even hassle the border gaurds,they are to fire back and engage i will NOT have the hassling with the border gaurds and will NOT have a parcel of my land lost to them. If they take one step into are land you are to engage and move in.

Field Commander Neighoff: i understand sir and will follow your orders EXACTLY and the men will be told of their orders ASAP

OOC: Correct me if I'm wrong... But I don't think Finland and Holland ever shared a border...

OOC: Correct me if I'm wrong... But I don't think Finland and Holland ever shared a border...

they are close and considering they also share a border with denmark (also allied) denfending that region is important, it may not be a "border" but there close enough

As far as I recall, Denmark, Finland, and the Netherlands never shared any common border between the three of them.

http://www.military.com/Resources/pics/worldwarii_europe_map02_largerview.jpg

This map agrees with me.

My mistake sry bout that i dont remember finland being up that high but still there there protecting agaisnt a swedish beach landing ;) so basically were it says holland swicth in sweden...........sry my mistake

My mistake sry bout that i dont remember finland being up that high but still there there protecting agaisnt a swedish beach landing ;) so basically were it says holland swicth in sweden...........sry my mistake

OOC: Everybody makes mistakes, so no problem.

A small crease formed in Reynaud’s face as he read the Belgium response. A slight bitterness formed in his mind, he had been expecting this, but ever the optimist he had still hoped the Belgium Government would show more intelligence in this matter. Ah well, one had to takes life’s rides as they came. Calling for his secretary he glanced up only briefly as she entered, still glaring at the paper in front of him, as if willing it to swap the words around and form a different reply, he asked for a coffee and to have her prepare to dictate two letters from him. When the coffee arrived he set the paper down, and took a small sip before beginning.

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To: The Belgium Government.

It was with a great regret and a personal disappointment that I received your message. It is now my duty then to inform you that in the case of a German DOW on the nation of Belgium we shall remain at our positions on the Belgium-France Border. Although this may lead to the demise of your nation’s European Assets, I regretfully must look after French interests first. I will however order all French commanders along the Belgium border to allow any Belgium units whom wish to re-deploy in the case of a German invasion through the border. I regret not being able to do more in the possibility of a defense of your homeland, however if they do invade it would be better for you to fight strong another day, than loose your army in a hopeless last stand. I personally wish you the best of luck, in whatever you may do.

My regards,
-Reynaud.

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Taking a small sip of coffee, he had the secretary read the note, and after giving it a nod of approval and a signature had it sent out to be delivered. As soon as it was on it’s way, the secretary returned and sat down to begin dictating the other message.

((OOC: I’m presuming I/France has control of the British Expeditionary force, as they did in History I believe as well. Let me know if this is mistaken))

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Dear our British Allies,

We thank you again for your continuing contribution to the war effort, and as you are our allies I felt I should inform you in a change of policy on the mainland, one which may affect your troops should you continue to leave them under French control.
The change is as follows, in the event of a German invasion of Belgium we will not move our troops up past the border, and rather stay in our line. We are currently attempting to improve fortifications on this line, however I suspect that any German invasion will happen long before this construction is finished, if they come through Belgium. Either way, we feel our Interests will be better served by fighting from a defensive posture this war. Thus we would also ask that our British allies stay and fight with the posture as well, rather than our original plan of action in this matter.

My personal thanks for your continuing support of the War,
-Reynaud

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Slumping back into his chair as the Secretary departed after reading the letter and receiving his signature, Reynaud let out a long sigh, and then moved onto other matters of affairs. Shifting papers, one marked as a matter of interest, but at the moment not important caught his eye. Mostly because of the unique titling of the document, which signified it was from the colonies. Perhaps those commanders had finally given their plans back? Picking it from the pile, he read it briefly and raised his eyes in surprise. There were some, as yet unverified reports of rebellion stirring, as if that was all he needed right now. Well…. He’d tell the garrison commander to be on alert then, and to get more information on this. He couldn’t have any rebellions growing during this time.
Reynaud let out cry for his secretary again, and had her take down a PS to the note leaving to the British Government.

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PS. I have recently been informed of possible rebel movements in the French Colony of Syria, and would like to know that if need be, English troops could be sent from Egypt to reinforce the garrison, sparing French forces the dangerous trip through the Mediterranean. I would appreciate a response on the matter in all due haste, again my thanks.

OOC: I see I am not the only one suffering from difficulties with the NS server today...

OOC:It's being really awkward, so I doubt it. :headbang: I had to reboot just to post that.

We thank you for your support given. We are happy with the fighters and we hope you can provide us with Hurricanes after the training of our crew and if you can produce enough. We understand your concerns but we belive if have accurate information that Holland, Belgium, Luxemburg and France will be attacked soon. (in RL, a Dutch embassy official was befriended with a high ranked German officer who warned the official that Holland would be attacked. He reported it to The Hague but nobody of the government believed him. I will Rp that some of us believed him) We give you permission that you may bomb Dutch territory that is captured by the Germans. Wouldn't it be a idea that a quick reaction force could be waiting in the English ports and if we are invaded they cross over to us?

We will ready what we can. We recommend that you make plans to demolish strategic bridges incase of an invasion to dramatically slow the enemy's progress.

OOC: Hi, this is my first RP, so if I do anything wrong then tell me. All ship classes etc. taken from www.comandosupremo.com. Oh, BTW, did you know that before WWII Mussolini was a Knight of the British Order of the Bath?!

OOC: Good, but we're not at war yet (June 10th, IRL). I'll treat it as a suprise attack.

To ; Winston Churchill, London
From ; General Smuts, Praetoria

Whilst it is the duty of the Dominion of South Africa to offer all aid and assisstance to the aqny British operations anywhere in the world, I would remind you of our own security duties, both within the Union of South Africa itself and in German SW Africa, mandated to us by the League of Nations. We are ready to provide 2 Infantry and one armoured divisions for use in any possible operations in Africa or the middle east, say Palestine, Egypt or British Somaliland. However, we would ask foe protection in transpoerting these troops from the Royal Navy Indian Ocean Squadron.

Our naval forces in the Indian ocean are currently chasing merchant raiders operating nearby. They will lend what support they can.

OOC: France, i'll write up a response a little later.

Dutch engineers have placed Demolition charges under bridges crossing the IJssel, Meuse and Rhine. The famous afsluitdijk has also been charged to prevent agerman advance from the northern provinces straight to the west part. Preparations are being made to mine other bridges but there is a shortege of explosives. The shortege should be solved in 2 weeks as the production of arms and explosives has been expended. Meanwhile also Indonesia has mobilized in case of a possible of a possible attack by Germany's ally, Japan. Some 20000 men have been mobilized andwill be trained in about 3 months.

OOC: Good, but we're not at war yet (June 10th, IRL). I'll treat it as a suprise attack.

OOC: It seems that if Italy attacks you, then I go to war with Italy as well... :eek: This could be interesting :headbang:

OOC: Good, but we're not at war yet (June 10th, IRL). I'll treat it as a suprise attack.


Yes, it was meant as a pre-emptive strike. Sorry if I didn't make that clear enough.

Now the army in Abyssinia has been formed and equipped.
The total numbers are:

126,000 Troops
925 Artillery Cannon
225 Tanks
300 Fighter Planes
80 Bombers

The force has relocated near to the borders of British Somaliland.

To; Winston Churchill, London
From; General Smuts, Praetoria

The bulk of South Africas Expeditionary Force has been directed to British Somaliland to counter any Italian aggression from Abbyssinia. This will boost the British garrison by 1 infantry and 1 armoured divisions, consisiting of;

32,000 troops
125 Light Tanks
75 Heavy Tanks
150 Artillery Pieces

The final infantry disvision, of 18,000 troops and supporting units, will be directed to Suez and then onto Palestine, to support French colonial troops in Syria. It is thought by the South African government that the use of colonial rather than British troops in this sensitive area would be politically more comfortable.

NIHON MILITARY NEWS
Secret IC available to Axis Nations

- Conscription Notices have been delivered to all Japanese Territories. Japanese Military Command hopes for as many as 150,000 new soldiers, but cannot make a firm, definitive estimate as of yet.

- Construction is underway for three new Carriers, expected to be finished by next year.

One Taiyo-Class Carrier; the Taiyo (http://www.combinedfleet.com/taiyo01.jpg).
Two Shokaku-Class Carriers; the Shokaku (http://www.combinedfleet.com/shokak01.jpg) and the Zuikaku (http://www.combinedfleet.com/zuikak01.jpg)

- Construction is well underway on the Yamato-Class Battleship, the Yamato (http://www.combinedfleet.com/yamato01.jpg). This massive behemoth of the IJN has an unknown release date at this time.

- The new Katori-Class Light Cruisers are expected to be released from construction near the end of the year.

- No new information on Submarines or Destroyers at this time.

- Japanese Factories are hard at work producing new weapons and vehicles for the Japanese Army.

- The A6M2 Zero-Sen is expected to be ready for combat trials by early summer.


NIHON POLITICAL NEWS

Prime Minister Mitsumama is expected to lose his position in the coming months, as the well known Konoe Fumimaro shall be fighting him for the position. The Emperor himself is said to have shown mild interest in seeing Fumimaro returned to his office, but this is as of yet unconfirmed.

The Japanese War Minister, Tojo, has pressuring China to surrender, hoping for a quick and easy solution to this war. New conscripts are expected to be sent off to the front after minimum training, but Tojo has not confirmed this either.


MESSAGE SENT TO CHINA:

Your time is running out; Japan does not wish to see more blood spilled on either side. Surrender to the might of the Japanese Empire before it becomes too late for you to do anything. We will not hesitate to crush your pathetic forces into the dirt and add your people to our own ranks. Continue this war only if you wish to see failure and more death for your people.

Tojo Hideki, War Minister of the Japanese Empire.

To; Winston Churchill, London
From General Smuts, Praetoria

Could you please clarify the current position in British Somaliland and East Africa. What British and colonial forces are available in these areas, and will further South African reinforcement be necassary, and if so, may all these forces be unified under South African Command?
In addition we are prepared to train Abbyssinian geurrilla and exiled forces, but only in the field. Native troops will not be allowed on South African soil.

Middle East underground topics spreading through the people like wild fire:

A mass has been called to organize the Muslim clerics to meet and join at the holy site of the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem for a discussion about the movements of Imperial troops in the region. Each leader is expected to make the journey to the most holy of sites to gather in a private discussion about the influence of Allah in these dangerous times and how to unravel the plans of God's will in their own direction. The meeting is expected to be held on the 10th of May and will proceed until it's conclusion on that Saturday where festivities will see the send off of the enlightened clergy.

May 8th 1940 Telegram received from Charles De Gaulle in France Homeland to the Colonial military leader Serge Illion.

"You attention to determining the actual threat or purpose of the unsettled citizens of Imperial French Syria are most crucial as we determine what resources are available to the battle that might come from the questionable intents of Adolph Hitler in Germany."

"It is with great urgency that you locate the cause and extract any knowledge out of these possible rebels for the security of the French and the safety of our oil lines."
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Col. Serge Illion places the urgent telegram on the desk in his embassy in Syria and calls up his secretary through the closed door, "Janis come in here!"

Janis enters, a small french woman who looks to be not accustomed to the sun in Syria opens and enters quickly. " Yes Colonel?"

"Get Dreche and his unit out into the streets and track down that vocal Muslim... wha's his name? Oh yes... Shukri al-Kuwatli. He once started that rebellion back in 27. Have him captured, he should be in the north docks in the merchant quarter. Go armed but don't show force, we don't want to be looked like a police force hunting for subjugation. Send word Janis, and hurry. I fear that we have only 1 day to get hold of him before heading out on that pilgrimage."

Janis disappears promptly out the door letting it close on it's own.

"Stalin's speach concerning German agressive actions in Europe."

Stalin: Germany is no threat to us, if anything they are our allies. They shall help our great motherland expand, cooperation between our great nations will define the division of power on earth!

"Far, far away, in Syberia, one prisoner in Gulag receives a letter from his family, telling about Stalin's speach. Prisoner's name was Nikita G. Rubashkin."

Nikita (saying outloud just after he finished reading the letter): Ah Stalin, suka. Poset narod kak scot, vat i budet nam odin balishoi kaput. Nemcam v posobniki stranu zapisal. Derimom vse pahnet, no vse tke.... voina iesli budet, narod podnimetsa, potomushto pod vlastiu sovetskoi rodnaia zemlia i nechego ieie fascistu lapat. Eh, mne b kak v molodosti....

-translation-

Ah Stalin, bitch. Treats people like cattle and as a result we gonna get killed. He signed the whole country up to help the Germans. This smells like shit, but... if there is war people will rise, because under soviet power is the motherland and too much has been lived through to just give it to nazis. Eh, if i was young.....

-meanwhile in Kremlin-

Stalin's advisor: Great comrade Stalin, the decision you made might turn out bad for the people.

Stalin: What!? It is for me to make decisions, it is for you to follow them...

Stalin's advisor: But Germans have tanks in Poland, they are too close to our border to be ignored.

Stalin: Do not interrupt me!!

"Stalin waved to one of the guards"

Stalin: Why is this traitor still here?

"Stalin's advisor was carried into the darkness of the halls of Kremlin by two of Stalin's guards. A shot was heard soon after"

Stalin's official message to Finland:

You will bend to our will.

OOC: I won't be on much and maybe not at all till mid-next week, so whoever commands Finland is gonna have to wait till i come back.

Stalin's official message to Finland:

You will bend to our will.

OOC: I won't be on much and maybe not at all till mid-next week, so whoever commands Finland is gonna have to wait till i come back.

omg dude SRY i thought for certain you were gonna go agianst Germany........yeah pull out ALL troops against the Russia border and wait for redoployment issues

In the morning before the great ancitpated attack on the Russian rivers preparations were being made. Tanks and planes were starting their engines and weapons were being loaded by te time the sun had came up the commander replied, "We gave them a deadline and im following to the second, By all means roll thro Russi.........

"Private" SIR, SIR, WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Field Commander Neighoff" What are you doing its H-Hour were going into Russia fall into rank at once!!!

"Private" Sir you may want to read this report before you shout one more order (Hands paper to Neighoff)

ATTENTION ALL ALLIES WE WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME ARE NEW ALLIES.... THE RUSSIANS!!!!!!!! Certainly we thought that war would erupt between the German and Russian Armies but to are great surprise a peace aggrement had been made earlier today

(Direct Statement from the Russian Deleate to the German High Command)
We came to talk about all hostile acts towards our nation from Germany, yet we would only like to think of them as are great friends and allies

The above statement clearly applies that the Russians and Germans are indeed allies in this great war of conquest yet because of your troop movement (and calling of a attack) you are to immediately move ALL troops, guns, planes and move them back to the Captital direct orders can be made once we actually KNOW who our true enemies are

Field Commander Neighofflooks stunned, He'd been there near 5 months wacthing the border and yet the Russians were his allies!!!! He could not believe what the letter said yet IT WAS stamped by the Finland Goverment.

He than gave the command to stop ALL preparation for war and start the march back west (the 20k men of the West sea front are still there)

Secret message forwarded to German authorities by Roshadiya agent in Romania:

Greetings German Friends.

I, Prime Minister Inonu, leader of the Republick of Turkey, notes with much satisfaction that the time has come for the proud people of Germany to throw off the shackles of deciet lain down by their enemies, and take the fight to the foe, where it rightfully belongs.

Your foes, if not our foes.

We have for quite some time now abided by ourselves, and watched in the shadows of a darkening Europe as the vain powers of the insidious French and the corrupt English glut themselves upon lands that rightfully belongs to the people of Turkey! Now we find that we have waited long enough.

What I propose is a pact of Brotherhood between our two nations, that we might strive together to erase the marks of earlier wrongs, and rise to the thrones of supremacy where we so rightfully belong!

What say you, mighty chancellor? Have the time come for our empires to join efforts once more?

I shall anxiously await your reply,
Prime Minister Inonu,
Turkey

The small, shabby looking house lying somewhat off the road in northern part of the commercial district of Damascus, looked just like any other house in the bustling capaital of Syria. By the sides of the streets were market wendors selling everything from used books to tea pots and other regalia.

A sallow-faced man clad in a dusty, white tunic held in place with a red sash at his waist made his way hurridly towards this particular. He stepped into the small alcove containig the front entrance, rapped swiftly on the door three times and slipped inside.

"Well Bekir?" the man on the other side of the door said curtly, his short black beard bristling "What news do you bring to me?" The sallow-faced man scratched his neck for a moment, before replying.

"I bring news of great importance Davud, for my search has gone well. It appears that the despecable French who holds dominion over these lands have singled out some sort of rebell leader, blaming him for spreading disidence and unrest among the people"

"So what?" the bearded man said, impatiently, his hands twitching "Why should this concern us? Have you no other news than this?"

"But this could be to our advantage!" the sallow-faced man hissed, lowering his voice dangerously "The French are moving to aprehend this man at this very instance, if we could thwart their efforts somehow, we might earn his favour!"

The black bearded man seemd to give this some thought, and the sallow-faced messenger sighed impatiently.

"He appears to be a very influenceful man, this 'Shukri al-Kuwatli' Think of what we might accomplish with his aid"

"Very well then" the bearded man finally said, stroking his beard aprehensivly "Take Etci and Hamid with you, and follow these Frenchmen. Go armed. You must gain the goodwill of this al-Kuwatli any way you can, but do not expose yourselves needlessly"

"I shall do as you bid, sir. We are Roshadiya" the sallow-faced man said, clicking his red-booted heels together before disappearing out the door once more, Davud shutting it fast behind him.

Riding home to Forward HQ, Neighoff and his men take a short break along side the road

"Field Commander Neighoff" I can't believe that the russians allied with the Germans, espically considering we were seconds from invading the Russian border!

"First Leutendient Willing" Sir, it isnt like it was a wasteful engagement, we did set up defensive works.

If the need ever arises again we can simply head back to the border defenses, and redeply our forces.

"Field Commander Neighoff" Well, i still dont entirely believe we should totally abadon our trench work becuase of our new ally, we still need to protect ourselfs from others....

Immediately order 10,000 of the men to turn around and rearm the line....as far as the planes go they are still on base and take 20 Howiters along with you. GO tell 1st platoon immediately of their orders, Willing!

"1st Leutendient Willing" Yes sir! Im assuming i am to go along with the men for Command!

"Field Commander Neighoff" Now that you think about you could use some combat experience...Yes, perfect idea, Willing, You can go aling when you rearm the line and are back in operation call HQ and inform them of the changes. If they challenge you at all use my name it'll be fine!

"1st Leutendient Willing": YES SIR!

To: General Smuts, Praetoria
From: Il Duce Mussolini, Rome
Re: Movement of Troops

We have noticed you have manouvered a significant force of troops into British Somaliland. Though we realize you have affiliations with the British, we advise that in this situation you back down. The Italian people have no argument with the people of South Africa and we do not want you brought into this battle.

To: Winston Churchill, London
From: Il Duce Mussolini, Rome
Re: Impending War

I believe that it is known to both of us that a war is about to erupt. However, I am offering you a chance to avoid conflict between us: surrender your colonies in Africa to us and we shall not harm any British citizens, there is elsewhere. This is your only chance to avoid full war between yourself and the people of Italy.

To; Winston Churchill, London
From; General Smuts, Praetoria

We have landed in British Somaliland and have found one British and one Indian infantry division in occupation. Our field commander has organised these forces into a defensive line along the Abbyssinian border, and is liasing with the British commender in Kenya, commanding 1 British and 2 African infantry divisions. This force with our own totals 115,000 men, with nearly 400 tanks. This figure does not include the many thousands of Abbyssinian armed refugees wjom we have co-opted under our command. This force is more than enough to hold off any Italian assault.
However, if we are to proceed with offensive operations (which we would not recommend) we would need support from British troops in Egypt.

To; Il Duce Mussolini, Rome
From; General Smuts, Praetoria
Re; Movemewnt of troops

Whilst it is true that we have no argument between us, there are two reasons behind our troop movements. Firstly, our traditional colonial and economic ties with Great Britain, and secondly, our own protection. We have no intention of letting any aggressive foriegn power other than Britain taking colonies below the equator and so threatening our own position in the region. It is quite clear that if British Somaliland was made part of the Italian Empire, then Kenya would soon follow. What then? Tanganyika? Rhodesia? The Transvaal? How far would be enough? It is with this in mind that we must lay a line now and say no to Italian entry to Somaliland.

(Further message communicated secretly)

We must make it clear that whilst we take this position, we still wish to remain friends. Due to the ineffectiveness of local troops we have taken command in Somaliland and now control the border points. You would do well to remember two things;
1 - We would raise no objections at all to Italian expansion around the mediterranean and in North Africa.
2 - We now control the Abbyssinian army-in-exile and it would be very easy for the Abbyssinian geurrillas to suddenly find their supplies cut.

Please contact me with your thoughts on these issues.

Belgian Military News (BMN)

Chef d'Etat-major, Lieutenant-Général C. Gillain has announced today that the Belgian Army will be reorganized and re-mechinized to meet the demands of the modern world. The Belgian Ministry of War will disband the 7th and 18th Infantry Divisions, and replace them with several new, integrated Armored Battalions. Furthermore, the remaining Belgian Infantry Divisions will be equipped with new 56mm Anti-Tank Guns.

These new Armored Battalions will be equipped with the new AMC SOMUA
AC-3 and Bataille B1-bis Medium Tanks. Renault Type UE (Chenillette d'infanterie) Personnel Carriers will also be intagrated within the Belgian Ranks. By the end of October, the Belgian Military hopes to have produced 350 AMC SOMUA AC-3 Medium Tanks, 290 R-35 Avec Tourelle FCM-36 Light Tanks and 292 Bataille B1-bis Medium Tanks.

During this Re-organization, the majority of the Belgian Army will be re-trained in the finer aspects of Combined Arms assault, Mechanized Warfare and Modern Infantry Tactics. Although the Idea sounds far-fetched, many in the Belgian High Command believe its possible to preform.

In other news, Belgian forces have now been deployed to the following positions:

Divisions:
2 divisions to the north of the Albert canal in covering positions 18, 11
9 divisions along the line of the Albert canal east of Antwerp up to Liege (Luttich)
15, 9, 6, 14, 1, 4, 7, 2 and 3 in and around Liege
3 divisions covering Antwerp - 17, 13. 12
1 division near Ghent-16
1 division north east of Brusssels, near Louvain - 10
1 division south west of Brussels- 5
1 division at Namur - 8
1 cav div west of the R. Ourthe
2 cav div south of the Albert canal, west of St Trond
1 chasseur ardennais division east of the R Ourthe
2 chasseur ardennais division

Corps:
V corps north of Antwerp
IV Corps Antwerp and to the east
II corps along the Albert canal
III corps along the Albert canal
VII corps along the Meuse Liege to Namur
VI corps area of Brussels
I corps Albert canal to Eben Emael

To; Winston Churchill, London
From; General Smuts

The 4th South African Infantry Division has now landed at Jaffa (May 12th), palestine, and is at your disposal.

In the morning before the great ancitpated attack on the Russian rivers preparations were being made. Tanks and planes were starting their engines and weapons were being loaded by te time the sun had came up the commander replied, "We gave them a deadline and im following to the second, By all means roll thro Russi.........

"Private" SIR, SIR, WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Field Commander Neighoff" What are you doing its H-Hour were going into Russia fall into rank at once!!!

"Private" Sir you may want to read this report before you shout one more order (Hands paper to Neighoff)

ATTENTION ALL ALLIES WE WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME ARE NEW ALLIES.... THE RUSSIANS!!!!!!!! Certainly we thought that war would erupt between the German and Russian Armies but to are great surprise a peace aggrement had been made earlier today

(Direct Statement from the Russian Deleate to the German High Command)
We came to talk about all hostile acts towards our nation from Germany, yet we would only like to think of them as are great friends and allies

The above statement clearly applies that the Russians and Germans are indeed allies in this great war of conquest yet because of your troop movement (and calling of a attack) you are to immediately move ALL troops, guns, planes and move them back to the Captital direct orders can be made once we actually KNOW who our true enemies are

Field Commander Neighofflooks stunned, He'd been there near 5 months wacthing the border and yet the Russians were his allies!!!! He could not believe what the letter said yet IT WAS stamped by the Finland Goverment.

He than gave the command to stop ALL preparation for war and start the march back west (the 20k men of the West sea front are still there)


OOC: Ah we not Germanie's allies, we just neutral and you are my enemy. Also Finland invading USSR? How badly do you plan to fail?

OOC: Ah we not Germanie's allies, we just neutral and you are my enemy. Also Finland invading USSR? How badly do you plan to fail?

OOC: Apparently pretty badly.

Zürich, Switzerland

Hermann Von Reichtung strode into the Local Suisse Bank, briefcase in hand. Many stared bluntly at the famous business man, clad in a finely tailored three-piece suit. After all, he was one the leading International Bankers in Europe and that isn't something you see too often.

Hermann had been in the business for his entire life, even as a kid he'd st rived for this profession and now the pinnacle opportunity of his career was glaring at him, like a beacon.

Lightly opening the door to his large corner office, Hermann sat down his briefcase on the upholstered chair, nearest the door and looked out, through his thick-pained window, into the beautiful Swiss countryside.

Ah yes, what a great day for business, Hermann thought to himself, as he sat down in his Ornate 16th Century chair. Promptly pulling out a sheet of paper and his Black-Pen, Hermann seized upon the opportunity of a lifetime.

To my fellow Associates of the German High Command:

Greetings, my Friends. It has been a long time since we last met.
I hope you have fared well in the past couple of years.
After all, times have been rough and it seems that its only getting worse. Anyways, I'm sure your tired of my excessive rambling,
so I'll cut to the chase.

For the past 3 years,
Germany has gone on a massive campaign of annexation,
swallowing any nations near-by.
And thought all of this, the Wermacht and other German
Agencies have come across various objects, such as: Jewels, Gold,
Royal Objects ect. while consolidating the treasuries of these nations. Because of the massive volume of precious goods that have been
acquired, it would be quite easy to loose track of these precious items in these turbulent times. Therefore, I present to you this preposition:

My Associates and I at
Suisse Bank are willing to hold these precious
items for the Nazi High-Command, until a later
specified date. Since our nation is technically neutral,
no one will both to interfere with this exchange.
You simply entitle us to 20% of your "plunder"
and we will gladly hold it within the safe confines of the
Swiss Banking system. You would simply ship these items to us,
via rail and we would take care of the rest.

I hope you consider this seriously consider this proposition,
so that we may both benefit from this gret bounty of Goods

Signed,
Hermann Von Reichtung
Suisse Bank

Glancing back towards his briefcase on the otherside of the room, Hermann called for the secretary, who quietly minced into his office.

" Yes, Mr. Von Reichtung?" She asked in a pleasant tone.

" Frau Greta, I need to mail this directly to Berlin, as soon as possible." Hermann casually replied

" Of course, sir." Greta said sa she daintily strode out of his office, letter in hand.

Leaning back in his chair, Hermann rested his eyes and prepared himself for the coming day.

To: General Smuts, Praetonia
From: Il Duce Mussolini, Rome
Re: Movement of Troops

We are happy that you wish to remain friends with the Italian people, and pleased that you will not attempt to halt expansion within the Mediterranean. However, Africa is also a viable territory. We will agree that, if you remain neutral, or possibly aid us, in this conflict, you and your territories will not be attacked under our command.

To; Winston Churchill, London
From; General Smuts, Praetoria

We have landed in British Somaliland and have found one British and one Indian infantry division in occupation. Our field commander has organised these forces into a defensive line along the Abbyssinian border, and is liasing with the British commender in Kenya, commanding 1 British and 2 African infantry divisions. This force with our own totals 115,000 men, with nearly 400 tanks. This figure does not include the many thousands of Abbyssinian armed refugees wjom we have co-opted under our command. This force is more than enough to hold off any Italian assault.
However, if we are to proceed with offensive operations (which we would not recommend) we would need support from British troops in Egypt.

To: Winston Churchill, London & General Smut, Praetoria.

It has reached my office that during the course of this war, the Exiled Abbyssinian Goverment and Army was recently co-opted. The French government voices its official objection and requests that the Abbyssinian forces be left under independant control. Although we have no concerns with co-operation, it was our view in that matter that we were fighting for liberation. This current action does not seem to match our stated goals, and the French Government would like it reversed.

My Regards,
-Reynaud.

BACK ON THE FINLAND USSR BORDER

"1st Leutendient Tohvnik" GOD DAMN RUSSIAN SONS OF BICTHS IF YOU WANT WAR HERE IT IS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

75,000 MEN STREAM INTO RUSSIA 1500 mesierfiert fighters destroy the western russian railways, any russians wishing to reinforce would need to either walk or fly in!

Fighters fly reguarly bombing the nearby russian towns and machine gun the russian outposts along the border

75,000 men are moving along the russian border attacking all russian resistance and taking FEW TO NO prisoners, resistance is very light the first town to fall after a quick route is, a small village 1 mile into Russia this becomes the Foward HQ.

The men start setting up defenses along the town region and wait for the counter attack, mines are laid and guns are set. 1000, 25 pound Howiters are laid along the defense lines in closing support and planes are always ready to scramble....(this is linked entirely to the Main Finland Border Defenses and most of the guns that support the town region also support my lines (in other words there the same guns that im listing twice)....THE WAR STARTS!!!!! :mp5:

ooc. RevertRomance, you have to start a new thread to begin a war. (just something called "Finland attacks the USSR!!!!!" or something) And Kanabia, when are my pilots ready? (with the planes if possible)

Military Bulletin

We have now enough explosives to also mine the rest of the bridges over the main rivers. The Koninklijke luchtmacht has begun exstensive patrols on the borders. Another 150000 men were drafted into the army, but due to a lack of weapons only a 25000 will be armed. We ask every friendly nation to supply us with weapons.

To; Premier Reynaud
From; General Smuts

By using the word co-opted we did not mean that Abbyssinian exiles have been incorporated into the South African army. They are merely under our command for the current task being undertaken. Emperor Heile Scelassie and his government-in-exile are most definitely still operating independently and free of our influence.

((OOC: I’m presuming I/France has control of the British Expeditionary force, as they did in History I believe as well. Let me know if this is mistaken))

That's fine.

Dear our British Allies,

We thank you again for your continuing contribution to the war effort, and as you are our allies I felt I should inform you in a change of policy on the mainland, one which may affect your troops should you continue to leave them under French control. The change is as follows, in the event of a German invasion of Belgium we will not move our troops up past the border, and rather stay in our line. We are currently attempting to improve fortifications on this line, however I suspect that any German invasion will happen long before this construction is finished, if they come through Belgium. Either way, we feel our Interests will be better served by fighting from a defensive posture this war. Thus we would also ask that our British allies stay and fight with the posture as well, rather than our original plan of action in this matter.

My personal thanks for your continuing support of the War,
-Reynaud

We agree with the proposed plan, but we suggest that the Armee de l'air is placed on full readiness, and in the event of a German assault, air superiority is made a priority.

PS. I have recently been informed of possible rebel movements in the French Colony of Syria, and would like to know that if need be, English troops could be sent from Egypt to reinforce the garrison, sparing French forces the dangerous trip through the Mediterranean. I would appreciate a response on the matter in all due haste, again my thanks.

Due to tensions with Italy, we cannot spare forces from Egypt at this moment- Though we can spare the 4th South African Infantry Division, currently stationed in Jaffa, Palestine. It will be a month or two before additional reinforcements from Australia and New Zealand arrive.

To: Winston Churchill, London
From: Il Duce Mussolini, Rome
Re: Impending War

I believe that it is known to both of us that a war is about to erupt. However, I am offering you a chance to avoid conflict between us: surrender your colonies in Africa to us and we shall not harm any British citizens, there is elsewhere. This is your only chance to avoid full war between yourself and the people of Italy.

Italy has no claim on the territories of Britain. It is sad that Italy has chosen this path.

To; Winston Churchill, London
From; General Smuts

The 4th South African Infantry Division has now landed at Jaffa, palestine, and is at your disposal.

Understood. The division will proceed to Damascus where it will come under the jurisdiction of the French colonial government in Syria.

To; Winston Churchill, London
From; General Smuts, Praetoria

We have landed in British Somaliland and have found one British and one Indian infantry division in occupation. Our field commander has organised these forces into a defensive line along the Abbyssinian border, and is liasing with the British commender in Kenya, commanding 1 British and 2 African infantry divisions. This force with our own totals 115,000 men, with nearly 400 tanks. This figure does not include the many thousands of Abbyssinian armed refugees wjom we have co-opted under our command. This force is more than enough to hold off any Italian assault.
However, if we are to proceed with offensive operations (which we would not recommend) we would need support from British troops in Egypt.

An assault will wait until ANZAC reinforcements arrive. For the meantime, the Somaliland force is under complete South African control and orders are to prepare entrenchments and hold position. Recommend limited raids upon isolated Italian outposts.

To: Winston Churchill, London & General Smut, Praetoria.

It has reached my office that during the course of this war, the Exiled Abbyssinian Goverment and Army was recently co-opted. The French government voices its official objection and requests that the Abbyssinian forces be left under independant control. Although we have no concerns with co-operation, it was our view in that matter that we were fighting for liberation. This current action does not seem to match our stated goals, and the French Government would like it reversed.

My Regards,
-Reynaud.

Rest assured that we maintain our stated policy of Abbyssinian independence and liberation. Any actions towards integration are purely in the interests of combat efficiency- If France would like an active role in this, we see no concern and raise no objections.

And Kanabia, when are my pilots ready? (with the planes if possible)

OOC: I don't think realistically they will be available before an imminent German invasion. What will probably happen is that in the event of Holland falling, you'll have a very sizable Dutch AF in exile.

To Government of Finland

Due to your recent aggression towards the USSR and violation of the cease-fire, we can no longer maintain diplomatic support for your nation.

ooc. Well, this is the first time I'm going to RP in this thing

Telegram to the Government of Great Britain

from: Melbourne
to: London

We will send 3 infantry ANZAC divisions and 1 motor-rifle division to the Middle-East and 1 infantry ANZAC division to British Somalia. Because of recent Japanese military activity we are worried about the British and the Australian position in South-East asia. If you request it, 3 infantry ANZAC forces are ready to Depart to Malaysia/Singapore. The ANZAC navy will patol around New Guinea and Australia and New Zealand. If needed we can also patrol around the pacific islands held by Great Britain.

ATTN: Italy http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7729980

To the Government of Australia

It is with great pleasure that we receive this news, as the forces are urgently needed. We recommend that naval assets focus on escorting troops in transit to Africa. At this stage, we do not expect a threat from Japan, but recommend that one division be moved to Singapore.

ooc. wasn't there a carrier version of the Spitfire? Or whats an allied carrier plane in 1940?

Australia and New Zealand will start building 2 carriers. The carriers will be used in convoy escorting missions. The building will be completed in about 1 year. The ANZAC navy will escort convoys to Africa. The troops are expected to arrive in 3 weeks. 1 Infantry ANZAC divission will be sent to Singapore.

OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT TELEGRAM TO ITALY

We regret to say that we are in war since our ally, Great Britain, has attacked you. We believe you threatened British (and thus our) security in Africa.

ps. Kanabia, who controls the ANZAC forces? I would like to participate in the Italy campaign

ooc; There wasn't a carrier version of the spitfire until after 1942 I think. British carriers used the Swordfish torpedoe bomber, an old and rickety biplane, yet surprisingly effective, as the Italian navy found out in RL at the battle of Matapan.

IC;

To; Australian PM, Sydney
From; General Smuts, Praetoria

Churchill has placed all British, Empire and allied troops in Somaliland under our command. However, we have no problem with a joint command with an ANZAC commander.

Joint communique to; Winston Churchill, London
to; Premier Reynaud, Paris
From; General Smuts, Praetoria

We strongly object to our troops being placed under direct French control. By placing the 4th Sth African Inf Div at your disposal, we did not envisage this to mean command being further "punted" along to a third party. Whilst we have every wish to aid France in her colonial problems, and will willingly follow the orders her colonial viceroy gives, this unit must stay independent.

OOC: Anneburg: Yeah, use the Swordfish. The Gloster Gladiator might have been carrier-based as well, but not sure. It was a good fighter biplane, but still a biplane- I don't see an RP problem if Australia/New Zealand navalises a version.

You can keep full command of your own divisions but i'll plan the strategy if that's OK :)

Joint communique to; Winston Churchill, London
to; Premier Reynaud, Paris
From; General Smuts, Praetoria

We strongly object to our troops being placed under direct French control. By placing the 4th Sth African Inf Div at your disposal, we did not envisage this to mean command being further "punted" along to a third party. Whilst we have every wish to aid France in her colonial problems, and will willingly follow the orders her colonial viceroy gives, this unit must stay independent.

The unit remains subject to recall at either South African or British command at any time. The assignment is only temporary and the 4th Division remains a South African asset.

To; Winston Churchill, London
From; General Smuts, Praetorie

Many Thanks for this clarification concerning our forces in the middle east. Concerning east Africa, may we suggest that ANZAC forces be rerouted to Kenya to join current forces there, providing for a two pronged attack up the coast of Italian Somaliland, where we can link and drive into Abyssinia.

To; Il Duce Mussolini, Rome
From; General Smuts, Praetoria

We are sorry that the Italian government feels this way, but rest we find ourselves unable to give up the strategic position of Somaliland, controlling the mouth of the Red Sea.

(Further message in secret)
It is still not to late to call off an attack. It will be several days before ANZAC reinforcements arrive from Australia to precipitate an attack into your territory. You must realise than an attack on your part is likely to fail, and if it didn't, would only provide for increased geurrilla activity in Abyssinia itself.
Afrikaans elements in the South African certainly have no love for the British, and even show some sympathy towards Fascist ideals. We would be willing to communicate secretly with you to carve out "spheres of interest" in Africa in return for neutrality, but the first tenet of this is that British Somaliland must be within the South African Sphere of influence.

OOC; Check out the map at WWW.WWNorton.com/college/history/ralph/resource/impafr/htm if you wish to study the spheres of iunterest idea and decide on which territories you want.

To; Winston Churchill, London
From; General Smuts, Praetorie

Many Thanks for this clarification concerning our forces in the middle east. Concerning east Africa, may we suggest that ANZAC forces be rerouted to Kenya to join current forces there, providing for a two pronged attack up the coast of Italian Somaliland, where we can link and drive into Abyssinia.

To: the government of Great Britain-South Africa
from: the goverment of Australia and New Zealand

We agree with the plan of Smuts. The convoys will be rerouted to Kenya and when all have arrived they will be used for actions in Abessynia and Italian Somaliland. In other theatres of the Italian war, we can send 4 frigates and 7 destroyers to the medditaranian.

Another 75000 troops will be drafted and trained in Australia and New Zealand. They will form 5 new divisions. The training will be finished in about 2.5 months. They will have 1 month basic training, 1 month desert training and .5 month jungle training in Australian New Guinea. They will probaly put in action in Africa when trained. (how much is 1 RL day in this thread?) Also a new method of fighting will be introduced in ANZAC forces. Using air planes to drop soldiers far behind enemy lines, some 7500 troops will be trained in this way. The training will last about 4 months.

Holland breaks all diplomatic contact with the fascist government of Italy. Recent demonstrations by the dutch fascist party (the NSB), against the English war on Italy, have been beaten up and about 30 Demonstrators have been arrested. We call upon all fighting nations to respect commercial shipping through and in the Mediterranean and don't attack ships from neutral nations.

In response to the declaration of war with Italy, French Forces are on the move again.

Force deployment is now moving as follows.
OOC: These numbers are just men #'s. I'm still looking for Numbers of Tanks etc. :headbang: I assumed I had about 1,250,000 men. All locations IE: Cities are simply Approx, and the men can reasonably be presumed to be deploy around and in each city. And Kanabia, any idea how big the British Exp. Force is at the moment? Map (http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/europe/france_pol91.jpg)

250,000=> Maginot Line (There)
300,000 => Caens (There)
150,000=>Valenciennes (In Transit, Approx. 2 Days)
150,000=> Reims (There)
100,000=>Chambéry (Moving Approx. 3 Days)
100,000=> Nice (Moving Approx. 1.5 Days)
100,000=> Marseille (There)
20,000=>Bayonne (Moving, Approx. 2 Weeks)
20,000=>Perpignan (Moving, Approx. 1.5 Weeks)
10,000=>Toulouse (Moving, Approx 1 Week)
50,000=> Paris (Moving, Approx. 1 Day)

To; Il Duce Mossolini, Rome
From; General Smuts, Praetoria

(Secret message)
I seriously suggest you reconsider your attack in Africa and take up our offer. You can't win in Africa and it seems the French are now massing on your noethern border. Contact us secretly for discussions.

To; Australian PM, Sydney
From General Smuts, Praetoria

May we please send military observers to see your new airborne troops so we can form an Airborne division ourselves?

To; Australian PM, Sydney
From General Smuts, Praetoria

May we please send military observers to see your new airborne troops so we can form an Airborne division ourselves?

Yes, but remember that the troops first have to be trained before they can go on any trials.

To; Il Duce Mussolini, Rome
From; General Smuts, Praetoria

(Secret Communication)
We really do not want to fight you but will if we must. Our offer is this;
South Africa to have primacy of influence over Angola, Northern Rhodesia (modern day Zambia), Tanganyika (modern day Tanzania) and all areas south of these, including madagascar, and in addition British Somaliland. In return South Africa will go neutral, help diplomatically to facillitate any Italian expansion in her area of Africa and sign a non aggression pact with Italy. This is your last chance to respond.

ooc. RevertRomance, you have to start a new thread to begin a war. (just something called "Finland attacks the USSR!!!!!" or something) And Kanabia, when are my pilots ready? (with the planes if possible)

Military Bulletin

We have now enough explosives to also mine the rest of the bridges over the main rivers. The Koninklijke luchtmacht has begun exstensive patrols on the borders. Another 150000 men were drafted into the army, but due to a lack of weapons only a 25000 will be armed. We ask every friendly nation to supply us with weapons.

yeah but he said he'd be gone for a couple days so i just wanted to post that before he left no point in making a whole new tread for one post and ill be gone til like tomorrow afternoon so if you have something ot say just TG me

Dreche and a unit of 10 police officers make there way through the streets of Damascus with grim determination. As they make their way through each street the people of Syria make room and with all diligence back out of their way to the sides of buildings and peer out through windows and doorways silently wondering what they are after this time.

Dreche in full gear along with the other police finally, after a 2 hour walk, reach the doorway to the man they are after, Shukri al-Kuwatli. Dreche walks firmly to the front door and signals without looking to get a few police around to the back of the building. 3 men with pistols in holsters run around to the rear of the 3 story adobe home and out of sight.

Dreche knocks loudly on the door, "Shukri al-Kuwatli, we have need to speak with you. Open up now!"

There is no noise from within the building and Dreche looks over his shoulder and nods to a young Frenchman of 20 who looks like he works out a lot, and the young police officer heads to the door and tries the handle. The door opens with a bit of a creak and within the structure is a open 10x10 foyer. There is no noise from within and the 7 Officers and Dreche head in and start searching the building. They make it to the second floor and it is there that they find Shukri al-Kuwatli with packed bags, and 10 attendants armed with hand guns helping gather up packages in cloth sacks.

Dreche Calls out, "Halt and lay down on the ground!" The officers behind him all pull out their weapons and point them in the general direction of the men gathered in a larger bed room. In the background 3 shots are heard coming from the rear of the building. Dreche takes note but does not move from his attention on Shukri al-Kuwatli. "Shukri al-Kuwatli you will come with me to have a discourse with me about your recent activities. You know the laws, follow me and with no possession."

The men with Shukri al-Kuwatli look afraid an jumpy at the current situation, and one makes the fatal mistake to raise up his weapon at one of the police officers. What happens next is a bloody gun fight in the cramped room. Shots fired without regard to the target and after a few seconds all that remains alive are 2 police officers hurt badly from gun wounds, and a wounded Rebel leader with Dreche uninjured standing over top of him.

BACK ON THE FINLAND USSR BORDER

"1st Leutendient Tohvnik" GOD DAMN RUSSIAN SONS OF BICTHS IF YOU WANT WAR HERE IT IS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

75,000 MEN STREAM INTO RUSSIA 1500 mesierfiert fighters destroy the western russian railways, any russians wishing to reinforce would need to either walk or fly in!

Fighters fly reguarly bombing the nearby russian towns and machine gun the russian outposts along the border

75,000 men are moving along the russian border attacking all russian resistance and taking FEW TO NO prisoners, resistance is very light the first town to fall after a quick route is, a small village 1 mile into Russia this becomes the Foward HQ.

The men start setting up defenses along the town region and wait for the counter attack, mines are laid and guns are set. 1000, 25 pound Howiters are laid along the defense lines in closing support and planes are always ready to scramble....(this is linked entirely to the Main Finland Border Defenses and most of the guns that support the town region also support my lines (in other words there the same guns that im listing twice)....THE WAR STARTS!!!!! :mp5:

OOC: Can you be realistic? Seventy five thousand men would be wiped out. Bombers would be shot down. All happening in a matter of days. Finland could never be on the offensive with USSR, so how about you go back to defensive? Also you can't just destroy railroads. They are protected, just go back to the defensive man, be realistic. But sure i'll show you hell if you want.

IC: "Chief General Makarov's official oders"
500000 troops are being moved against Finlandian army, they are armed with PPSH machine guns, anti-tank weapons, 45th caliber artillery pieces and 2 corpuses of european tank division, total of 500 tanks, T-34, T-44 and KV-I. As for air support, 2 batalions of PE-8 bombers and 3 batalions of YAK3 support fighters. Troops are to be transported by foot and railroad. Part of the troops (200000) is already on the border and is advancing towards Finlandian troops while new troops keep coming. Tanks, artillery and plains are gonna be be joining the advance during next few days. Also 40 batalions of SHTRAFBAT (batalions made up of prisoners of Gulags who were promised freedom for serving in the red army, poorly supplied, but most of them were either in the red army before but then were put into SHTRAFBAT for some offence, some were imprisoned during Stalin's cleansing of the country in 1930s, those are political prisoners and are mostly people who fought and won the Great Revolution of 1917, others are criminals, robbers, thieves. They were put in the most hot spots and they were the ones with short ammo and NKVD (military police) behind their backs ready to execute those who try to desert the battlefield. Soldiers in SHTRAFBAT are vicious, they don't only fight for their country they also fight for food and other stuff they can get after killing their enemie.) Total force of 40000 is also aproaching enemy on foot. Also i am moving a 15th and 17th batalions of Katyushas just to be sure. They gonna start firing once they get into the position and before the two armies clash.

Stalin: Lets show that fascist scum war! They will be crushed!

(OOC: His words are made up, and not what he actually says after capture, if captured at all. The actions of the Turks are still under question as to what will happen to him on that day.)

May 10th arrives in Jerusalem. At the Mosque of Abdalla within an ante-chamber in the ancient building 38 clergy meet and discuss ravenously the events that have unfolded in the past 2 days.

"Shukri al-Kuwatli should be a hero to our cause, to take such ..."
" That is not our concern, he was a fool to be so oblivious..."
" It is our place to stand firm and without regret.."
"There shall be no further discussions we need..."
The firm voice of Cleric Habali takes hold of the argument about intent. "We shall have none of this. It is we who are responsible for the passing of the word, the passing of the compassion, and the spread of the joy of Allah to those who have not heard or will not listen. What actions Shukri feels are noble are not our position. It is the presence of the..."

A young man bursts into the room with a note in his raised hand. "Cleric Rashinde speaks! Word from Damascus, and from Shukri al-Kuwatli by messenger within the hospital! You must read immediately..." The boy rushes to the previously speaking Cleric Habali.

Habali looks over the now unsealed document and then reads it out loud:

"Dear faithful and blessed of Allah,

Much blasphemy has undergone our people under the imperialist ranks. And with much effort I have managed to get a servant to listen to the captured al-Kuwatli now with in Imperialistic hands of torturers. He has yet to divulge what purpose he serves, but calls out with all his might that the

'..speakers for Allah, and the people of Syria, shall expel and reclaim the lands from the Imperialists... rise up on over occupation of our sacred holy lands.'

And so I bring news that the body of Shukri al-Kuwatli is being violated by the infidels of Europe who wish to rape our lands, as has always been known. We shall stand and drive these people from our sight. They shall drown in the sea from which they came.

Grateful servant of Allah,
Rashinde al-Jolbe"

There is much renewed commotion and turmoil in the ante-chamber as the men discuss what this means and what they should do.

OOC: Can you be realistic? Seventy five thousand men would be wiped out. Bombers would be shot down. All happening in a matter of days. Finland could never be on the offensive with USSR, so how about you go back to defensive? Also you can't just destroy railroads. They are protected, just go back to the defensive man, be realistic, i am gonna ignore your post.

OCC: Im going to half to agree with Puska here. Attacking the USSR with 75,000 men, without logistical support, wuold be like attacking a Polar bear with a banana peal. I hope you enjoy this suicidal attack of yours.

IC:

King Leopard III scanned through the recent reports from abroad. He shook his head, as he analyzed the recent troop movements. How could this be? Haven't we already learned that a war on this scale will solve nothing! The troubled king slammed his large hand down on his desk, as un-precedented anger rose from within.

The King slowly pushed himself up, from his cold leather chair and began to nervously pace around the room. As the beads of sweat formed on his forehead, Leopard couldn't help to think the consequences of neutrality.

Were the best bloody invasion route to France! Germany wont bother to respect our neutrality, they didn't in the last war and they certainly wont now.

Now the King was really starting to worry, his hands beginning to shake uncontrollably. But if we align ourselves with the Germans, we'll be trampled by the French and British! Theres no way out of this. Trying to calm himself, the King braced himself against the hand-carved bookcase, to his left.

The creaking of Hinges, alerted Leopard to the front of the room, where one of his aides had now entered to check on the aging King.

" Your Majesty, all you alright?" The aide asked, caution present within his timid voice.

dabbing the beads of sweat of his wrinkled forehead, the King fell back into his chair and let out a great sigh.

" Yes, I'm fine Miseur LeBlanc. However I need you to dictate a message for me."

Pulling out a small note-pad and a pen, the frail secretary pulled up a chair and began to scribble down Leopards thoughts

----Transmission to German Wermacht Command----

My fellow associates,

Because of the growing tensions between the nations around us. I feel that neutrality will not guarantee safety. Therefore, my associates and I within the Belgian Government are looking for new alliances.

The French are corrupt and their military forces are brutally inefficient and England only seeks to strengthen its already massive Empire abroad, giving no concern to nations of our stature. Because of this, we now ask for your support in the coming conflict. In return for military protection in the coming conflict and pieces of France/ Holland, we will allow you to use our territory as an invasion route into France, along with the support of Belgian Forces.

I hope you consider our governments offer, so that this conflict may pass by with as little bloodshed as possible.

Signed,
King Leopold III
Lord Protector of Belgium

----Transmission Ended----

As the secretary got up from his seat, King Leopold turned his chair and gazed out into the endless blue sky.

I hope to god that this conflict does not escalate, otherwise were doomed.

Bump

--Start Transmission--

To the Governmentof Leopold the Third
From German High Command

We will accept this request and will militarily protect you.
Should the French and the British attack your nation, they would be shown as aggressors against a nation that wants help.
We wil protect your nation.

--End Transmission--



OOC: First of many posts.

OOC: I had a post planned, but I forgot it, so bump for now.

La-Bumpe'

IC: Most troops have now moved into position around Finlandian forces attack beggins, now.

Almost 250000 troops, plus panes, tanks, and artillery are engaging the small enemy force of 750000. Enemy is surrounded. Its supply route is already cut off, anti-aircraft weapons are put in place to make sure that supplies won't come by air.
Fighting broke out with Finish forces.

The rest of the division, 290000 sent to defend against Finland just went around Finish positions and into Finland, first defenses were wiped out by planes and artillery. Troops, after establishing HQ started going deeper into Finish land.

Gazing out, over the endless rows of men, Mikhail Gerchenko sneered in delight.

Each man was, of course a peasant, draped in the clothing of a typical sheep hearder. Undisciplined and nervous, many of them squirmed and fidgeted, like insects. Yet, Gerchenko knew these men had great potential, and they were certainly of the warrior breed. After all, that was the only reason why he and his associates traveled to this wasteland. But it would be well worth it, after these men became hardened recruits.

“ATTENTION!” Gerchenko shouted.

Immediately, the entire group froze in their tracks; Each man clinging to the discipline that they had been taught, trying to make their own impression on this iron fisted commander. However, he glared at them in the same way. It didn't matter how well they performed, they were still not soldiers, just conscripted peasants.

As Gerchenko continued to dubiously scowl at the crowd, the Black-Bearded, broad chested Vladimir Il’ych Dimtirev casually stepped out of the small, wooden barracks, towards his commander.

Vladimir had served in Stalin’s NKVD for almost 15 years and it had transformed this peaceful Siberian Farmer, into a gruesome butcher that slaughtered the innocent, by the dozens. Unfortunately, Stalin’s great insecurity caught up to him and Dimitiev was forced to flee to this barren landscape.

Out of the corner of his eye, Gerchenko observed the dark figure moving towards him and gracefully spun around to address him.

“ Greetings, Comrade Major. What is the latest news?” The Commander asked in his cold, unforgiving voice.

“ Comrade, here is the latest news on our weapon shipments, from Novosibirsk.” Vladimir quietly replied, staring his commanders nicely kept uniform.

“ Excellent, It has been weeks since I last heard of progress.” Gerchenko cheerfully said, as he pulled his dusty reading glasses from the wool pocket of his uniform.


To: Comrade General Mikhail Gerchenko
From: Sergey Ulanov

Greetings my friend,

I am pleased to tell you that the following items have arrived in
Mongolia and are ready for distribution:

Mauser 7.92mm Bolt Action Rifles ( Pre-WWI)x 5,460
M31 9mm Sub-Machine Guns x 600
M/09-21 7.62mm Machine Guns x 50
Luger 9mm Semi-Automatic Pistols x 100
6- inch Combat Knives x 6,000

Wool Overcoats (Standard Russian Issue) x 6,000
Black Leather Infantry Boots x 5,800
Standard Khaki Infantry Uniforms x 6,125
Steel-Plated Combat Helmets x 3,245
Leather Infantry Back-packs x 2,670

Total Cost: 238,109 rubles

More equipment should arrive at your position by August.
I hope this satisfies your men’s overall needs.

Folding the small letter and placing it in his pocket, the Commander smiled to himself as he faced his men once again.

“ Comrade, look out over these men. Today they may be farmers and sheep hearders, but one day they will be some of the finest soldiers on this continent. I can guarantee that, my friend.”

As Vladimir stood there, trying to believe what his superior had just told him; Mikhail gracefully strode down the rows of this future army, once again observing the beginnings of something truly great.

General Smuts was tired. This business in Somaliland had taken all of his attention for nearly a week. He knew he had to keep the British colonial authorities and the Afrikaans nationalists happy, but to do both successfully was seemingly impossible!!

He sat back and yawned heavily. He was a military man, and not used to such double dealing. Yet still the Italians had not contacted him. He was being dragged into a war which could prove unpopular with his own people, yet to back out would anger his "bosses". Bosses?! Hah! They'd shown them how the Boers could fight fifty years ago, and there were still many who wanted to repeat the performence.

But not the wily old General. However, he knew in his own mind that the time was nearing when a decision had to be made. Which way would he jump? An answer from Italy would make his own decision that much easier.

He closed his eyes and thought deeply.

ooc. I know, this is going to be a crappy post.

The dutch communist party (especially the more radical ones) are enraged about the finnish attack on the USSR. They intend to go to Russia and join the war as volunteers. About 500 men are ready to depart to Russia in 2 days.

To; Australian PM, Sydney
From; general Smuts, Praetoria

Please inform us of the expexted date of arrival of ANZAC force in Kenya.

France has begun construction on an extended Maginot Line. This new line will be extended along the Belgium Border. Citizens are conscripted from nearby towns along the line to speed up this construction.De Gulles newly organized 1rst Armored Division is placed In the Area between Reims and Amiens. As well, troops from Valenciennes are to begin construction on addition Trenches and Tank traps. The exact positioning of these are left up to section commanders, however they are not to interfere with the extension of the Maginot line, and are instructed to assist whenever construction of this is in their section.
As well, a portion of the French troops (100k) in Caens are instructed to practice setting up, and destroying an airfield in under two hours. Another 4 Divisions are instructed to practice anti-tank tactic's on Mock up's. The last 4 division are instructed to practice squad based Anti-Infantry tactic's. They are allocated a portion of the town, and surrounding country side (The civilians are properly cared for, and paid) to practice these in.

Meanwhile...
To: Prime Minister Churchill
From: Premier Reynaud
Our Dear British Allies,
At the advice of my generals, I am asking that as many aircraft of anytype, as well as pilots (Both to fly, and to teach our own French Pilots their art's) as you can Spare. Although we can offer pilots of our own, they will need to learn the art of flying your specific aircraft as many of ours are out of date. We thank you once again for your continued support,
-The Nation of France,

Leaning back softly, Reynaud signed the message, which he had written himself, for no reason really. He just felt useless at the moment, and standing up, he took a moment to stretch before looking over at the map showing the re-drawn borders of Europe. Where Poland use to exist, there was a large Black and Red portion now. And then the Russians were off after Finland, or was it Finland after Russia? Well at least they had Guts, if nothing else.

To; Australian PM, Sydney
From; general Smuts, Praetoria

Please inform us of the expexted date of arrival of ANZAC force in Kenya.

They arrived RL today. (saturday) The equipment (tracked vehicles etc.) and supplies are in tomorrow.

To; Australian commander, ANZAC forces in Kenya
From; South African Commander, Sth Afr forces in Somaliland

May we suggest that you link up with British and native forces already in Kenya (3 x Inf Divs). We are awaiting orders from London before attacking.

(In Secret)
Our suggested tactics are as follows;
- Use British and African forces to hold borders.
- Move our own forces into Italian Somaliland and link up on the coast. This will deny the Axis any access to the western Indian Ocean.
- In a joint spearhead, move straight for Addis Ababa

Smuts awoke to the news that the Australians had arrived in Kenya. That was good. If he decided to support Italy, he would only have to contend with local troops. The Aussies made good soldiers, and besides, Smuts didn't want to fight fellow colonials.

His secretary greeted him when he came into his office for his morning briefing. The British had bombed naval targets in Italy, and the French had declared war on Italy. More fool them, thought Smuts. Germany is breathing down their necks to the north and they declare war in the south? If anyone knew the dangers of a war on two fronts it should be them. Finland and the USSR were attacking and counter-attacking each other. Not really our concern, thought Smuts. The Belgians had allied themselves with the Germans. Now that was interesting thought Smuts...

His thoughts were interupted by his intelligence chief. After dismissing his secretary, Smuts was informed that their was no word from the Italians, and that the British hadn't yet given the order to attack Abbyssinia. Smuts sighed. It looked as if he would have to decide who to follow for himself.

His secretary interupted to inform him that a delegation from the Afrikaans National Party were waiting to see him. Well, this decision could wait one more day, but no longer after that.

To; Australian commander, ANZAC forces in Kenya
From; South African Commander, Sth Afr forces in Somaliland

May we suggest that you link up with British and native forces already in Kenya (3 x Inf Divs). We are awaiting orders from London before attacking.

(In Secret)
Our suggested tactics are as follows;
- Use British and African forces to hold borders.
- Move our own forces into Italian Somaliland and link up on the coast. This will deny the Axis any access to the western Indian Ocean.
- In a joint spearhead, move straight for Addis Ababa

To: South African Commander, Sth Afr forces in Somaliland
From: Gen. Bill Johnson, ANZAC commander in Eastern Africa

Once all equipment and supplies are landed, we will move to join up with the British and Local forces. I agree with your plan, but I advice to use Sudan as well. The forces now in Africa are:
-3Infantry ANZAC divisions in Kenya, 1 Motor-Rifle Anzac division being unloaded.
-1 Infantry ANZAC division in British Somaliland.

We plan to send 2 Armoured Divisions (each with 350 Tanks and supporting rolling material) to Africa. The forces will be there RL tomorrow (sunday).

other news

The 2 carriers (the Auckland and the Perth) will be equipped with 30 swordfish torpedo bombers and 20 unknown fighters each. The ANZAC naval-air buro investigates the conversion of Hurrican planes to carrier based planes. The planes will have an extended range (if anyone hs objections against me converging planes, say it and I will change it). The investigators will try to increase the fuel capicity. "We will try to extend the range to 1000 miles (1600 km)." said head investigator Wallace Williamson.

Gazing out, over the endless rows of men, Mikhail Gerchenko sneered in delight.

Each man was, of course a peasant, draped in the clothing of a typical sheep hearder. Undisciplined and nervous, many of them squirmed and fidgeted, like insects. Yet, Gerchenko knew these men had great potential, and they were certainly of the warrior breed. After all, that was the only reason why he and his associates traveled to this wasteland. But it would be well worth it, after these men became hardened recruits.

“ATTENTION!” Gerchenko shouted.

Immediately, the entire group froze in their tracks; Each man clinging to the discipline that they had been taught, trying to make their own impression on this iron fisted commander. However, he glared at them in the same way. It didn't matter how well they performed, they were still not soldiers, just conscripted peasants.

As Gerchenko continued to dubiously scowl at the crowd, the Black-Bearded, broad chested Vladimir Il’ych Dimtirev casually stepped out of the small, wooden barracks, towards his commander.

Vladimir had served in Stalin’s NKVD for almost 15 years and it had transformed this peaceful Siberian Farmer, into a gruesome butcher that slaughtered the innocent, by the dozens. Unfortunately, Stalin’s great insecurity caught up to him and Dimitiev was forced to flee to this barren landscape.

Out of the corner of his eye, Gerchenko observed the dark figure moving towards him and gracefully spun around to address him.

“ Greetings, Comrade Major. What is the latest news?” The Commander asked in his cold, unforgiving voice.

“ Comrade, here is the latest news on our weapon shipments, from Novosibirsk.” Vladimir quietly replied, staring his commanders nicely kept uniform.

“ Excellent, It has been weeks since I last heard of progress.” Gerchenko cheerfully said, as he pulled his dusty reading glasses from the wool pocket of his uniform.


To: Comrade General Mikhail Gerchenko
From: Sergey Ulanov

Greetings my friend,

I am pleased to tell you that the following items have arrived in
Mongolia and are ready for distribution:

Mauser 7.92mm Bolt Action Rifles ( Pre-WWI)x 5,460
M31 9mm Sub-Machine Guns x 600
M/09-21 7.62mm Machine Guns x 50
Luger 9mm Semi-Automatic Pistols x 100
6- inch Combat Knives x 6,000

Wool Overcoats (Standard Russian Issue) x 6,000
Black Leather Infantry Boots x 5,800
Standard Khaki Infantry Uniforms x 6,125
Steel-Plated Combat Helmets x 3,245
Leather Infantry Back-packs x 2,670

Total Cost: 238,109 rubles

More equipment should arrive at your position by August.
I hope this satisfies your men’s overall needs.

Folding the small letter and placing it in his pocket, the Commander smiled to himself as he faced his men once again.

“ Comrade, look out over these men. Today they may be farmers and sheep hearders, but one day they will be some of the finest soldiers on this continent. I can guarantee that, my friend.”

As Vladimir stood there, trying to believe what his superior had just told him; Mikhail gracefully strode down the rows of this future army, once again observing the beginnings of something truly great.

OOC: Oh wait you're Mongolia. I never gave you weapons, i am USSR.

EVERYBODY IGNORE HIS POST.

OOC:I am USSR, who the hell are you?

He's Mongolia.

He's Mongolia.

I got that, but why the hell is he receiving weapons from USSR if i never said that i am gonna give them to him?

Batalion commander Sergei Glichko was looking over the field of battle. It was a grass field, covered with snow, forest was to both sides of it. But it seemed as if it was all dead. Artillery was firing on the enemy positions for few hours now. Soon it will be time for infantry to move in. Soldiers were already given their cup of alchohol and were ready to fight. Squad leader, and politruk (an assistant to the batalion commander, was the one who had to rally the troops and make them go forward during the battle, they were the ones who stood up not fearing the bullets then everyone else was trying to dig in) Vladimir Shukin was also looking.

Sergei: Kak dumaiesh, skoliko narodu poliajet?

Vladimir: Da skoliko poliajet stoliko i poliajet, jalko koneshno, no shto podelaiesh. Kak govoritsa libo grudi v krestah, libo golova v krestah. Luchshe uj zdesi umerati, za rodinu srajaiasi chem gnedebudi v tureme, gde tebia NKVDeshniki muchati budut.

Sergei: Pravelino govorish, no vse ravno, jali narod....

eh ma, nu ladno davai idi svaih gotovi

Vladimir: Gotovi uje

Sergei: Horosho, nu idi shtoli segareti im dai zakuriti

Vladimir: Idu.

-translation-

Sergei: What do you think how many will die?

Vladimir: As many as needed, its a pitty of course, but what can we do? Like they say its either chest in crosses (medals) or head in the bushes. Its better to die here, fighting for the motherland then somethere in prison tortured by NKVD.

Sergei: You say right things, but still, i pitty the people............

eh ma, okay you go prepare your men.

Vladimir: Already prepared.

Sergei: Good, then you can go give them cigarretes.

Vladimir: I am going.

"Few hours later the sky was covered with clouds, the tanks were starting up their engines, the aircrafts were flying through the air, the attack began"

ZA RODINU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FOR MOTHERLAND!!!!!!!!!!!

Telegram to the United States of America

Greetings dear friend.

We would like to inquire about a certain fighter you have/produce: the P-38 Lightning. If possible we would like to buy 125 of the plane. If we're happy with the plane we would like to buy more.

Signed, Air Marshal of ANZAC, Danny Sither

Batalion commander Sergei Glichko was looking over the field of battle. It was a grass field, covered with snow, forest was to both sides of it. But it seemed as if it was all dead. Artillery was firing on the enemy positions for few hours now. Soon it will be time for infantry to move in. Soldiers were already given their cup of alchohol and were ready to fight. Squad leader, and politruk (an assistant to the batalion commander, was the one who had to rally the troops and make them go forward during the battle, they were the ones who stood up not fearing the bullets then everyone else was trying to dig in) Vladimir Shukin was also looking.

Sergei: Kak dumaiesh, skoliko narodu poliajet?

Vladimir: Da skoliko poliajet stoliko i poliajet, jalko koneshno, no shto podelaiesh. Kak govoritsa libo grudi v krestah, libo golova v krestah. Luchshe uj zdesi umerati, za rodinu srajaiasi chem gnedebudi v tureme, gde tebia NKVDeshniki muchati budut.

Sergei: Pravelino govorish, no vse ravno, jali narod....

eh ma, nu ladno davai idi svaih gotovi

Vladimir: Gotovi uje

Sergei: Horosho, nu idi shtoli segareti im dai zakuriti

Vladimir: Idu.

-translation-

Sergei: What do you think how many will die?

Vladimir: As many as needed, its a pitty of course, but what can we do? Like they say its either chest in crosses (medals) or head in the bushes. Its better to die here, fighting for the motherland then somethere in prison tortured by NKVD.

Sergei: You say right things, but still, i pitty the people............

eh ma, okay you go prepare your men.

Vladimir: Already prepared.

Sergei: Good, then you can go give them cigarretes.

Vladimir: I am going.

"Few hours later the sky was covered with clouds, the tanks were starting up their engines, the aircrafts were flying through the air, the attack began"

ZA RODINU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FOR MOTHERLAND!!!!!!!!!!!

I understand you're Russian?:D

I understand you're Russian?:D

Yeap.

1st Leutendient Tevhonik": HQ were conpletely surrouned yet holding on ,maybe for another day other than that we cant hold were running out of supplies

HQ: We have to deal with the Russian onslaught ourselves but wecan try to meet up with you, We have 750,000 left behind lines get them into postion and get them to the border by rail!

Field Comander Neighoff: Sigh......Russians are as arogant as ever (moving half a million men in about 10 minutes my ass, and as if i left my enitre border unprotected...you act like your simply gonna walk in and conquer me) Ill take command of ALL 750,000 Finland Infantry left and mobilize against the Russians, My bombers are the B-52 Stratosphere Bomber just try to shoot it out of the sky with your puny airforce. Anti-Air batteries wont come close to even hitting it let alone shooting it down. They are bombing your lines and destroying some forces moving thorugh are border, Meserfiets are straifing the lines daily, Anti-Air batteries are near useless against dive bombers, they hit and run soooo fast dont even try. 750,000 men will clash directly with your line in 3 NS days. So by 6 pm Eastern Time Im pushing you strait to the border and advancing through to the 75,000 stuck behind lines, 20,000 men still defending the "Useless Line" as you think are fireing their guns and raining hell opon your forces, I DO fly in supplies and a few reinforcements to the town, Your near NONEXSITENCE AIRFORCE does nothing to impede my air forces and the anti-air only shoot down a few planes but enough gets through for them to continue there fight. My line EXTENDS to the Town no way you'd cut it off with out taking EXTREME casulties More men are moved into the town and my 750,000 are continueing opon your forces as i type this :mp5:

1st Leutendient Tevhonik": HQ were conpletely surrouned yet holding on ,maybe for another day other than that we cant hold were running out of supplies

HQ: We have to deal with the Russian onslaught ourselves but wecan try to meet up with you, We have 750,000 left behind lines get them into postion and get them to the border by rail!

Field Comander Neighoff: Sigh......Russians are as arogant as ever (moving half a million men in about 10 minutes my ass, and as if i left my enitre border unprotected...you act like your simply gonna walk in and conquer me) Ill take command of ALL 750,000 Finland Infantry left and mobilize against the Russians, My bombers are the B-52 Stratosphere Bomber just try to shoot it out of the sky with your puny airforce. Anti-Air batteries wont come close to even hitting it let alone shooting it down. They are bombing your lines and destroying some forces moving thorugh are border, Meserfiets are straifing the lines daily, Anti-Air batteries are near useless against dive bombers, they hit and run soooo fast dont even try. 750,000 men will clash directly with your line in 3 NS days. So by 6 pm Eastern Time Im pushing you strait to the border and advancing through to the 75,000 stuck behind lines, 20,000 men still defending the "Useless Line" as you think are fireing their guns and raining hell opon your forces, I DO fly in supplies and a few reinforcements to the town, Your near NONEXSITENCE AIRFORCE does nothing to impede my air forces and the anti-air only shoot down a few planes but enough gets through for them to continue there fight. My line EXTENDS to the Town no way you'd cut it off with out taking EXTREME casulties More men are moved into the town and my 750,000 are continueing opon your forces as i type this :mp5:


B-52 bombers?!?!? WTF, they were build in the early 1950!

B-52 bombers?!?!? WTF, they were build in the early 1950!

no 1945 and since this "alternative" 1945 it isnt crazy or insaneto rush something into production i have a production team and scientists

The narrow, crooked, and above all crowded streets of Damascus were suddenly quite empty as the French police force made their way down them. People looked tense, some expectant, and yet others tried to look like nothing at all... The French were in controle of Syria and had been so for centuries (?) About a hundred feet or so behind them however, came a trio of slightly shabby, white-tuniced, red-sashed men. Roshadiya operatives.

"There are to many of them" Etchi said in his usual low voice, his chocolate eyes gleaming under a stray lock of dark hair "10 French policeofficers, we cannot hope to outmatch these men! We should turn back, and-"

"No" the sallow-faced Bekir cut him of shortly, peering casiously around the streetcorner as the Frenchmen knocked heavily upon a door facing the street, shouting words in a language he did not recognise.

"We must at the very least stay here and report back to Davud about the faith of this al-Kuwatli character, should the French have located him now, that is..."

The portly man beside him, Hamid, wiped his brow with his tunic sleeve as he nodded his concent. His large, black mustache bobbing up and down on his upper lip as though it was alive. He patted his inner pocket to assure himself for the third time since he left the printing press where Bekir had picked him up, that the Turkish Kirikkale army pistol he had been issued was still there. As luck would have it, it was.

Just then the French police began making their way inside the large sandstone building through yet another door, leaving three of their number outside. Bekir and his two companions stood with baited breah, peering into the mirror he used to see what was going on around the corner. See, but not seen himself.

Minutes passed, and suddenly the warm silence of the Damascus air was torn to shreds by the repeated sounds of gunfire, albeit somewhat dulled as it originated from inside the building.

"Well, they certainly found someone alright..." Etchi mouthed. (NOTE: Disregard if sentries are not outside) Bekir gazed intently at the reflection of the three sentries outside, trying to guess their next course of action. Suddenly, he reached inside the folds of his white tunic and pulled forth a small, black devise. A bomb.

Etchi and Hamid stepped back a few paces as Bekir, planting his feet firmly into the ground, pocketed the mirror and smashed the safety mechanism of his device against the nearest wall. The smash of steel upon rock sounded much like a car tire punkturing, making any bystanders vince a little just as Bekir tossed the bomb around the corner towards the three Frenchmen.

The resounding blast following shortly afterwards made the trio happy about their choice to cover their ears. Without giving the cloud of sand and smoke much time to clear, Bekir drew his gun, nodded to the other two, and advanced around the corner. The other two following his lead, guns drawn.

(Assuming constables outside are dead/badly wounded/not present...) The small taskforce entered the surprisingly cool sandstone building serving as the home of the Syrian Shukri al-Kuwatli. Silently the made their way upstairs, each of them quietly noting the sudden absence of gunfire. The blast of the bomb outside has surely alarmed anyone inside the building of the three men's presence here. This meant an ambush had to be expected...

Comming upon the emediate entrance of Shukri al-Kuwatli's inner chamber, Bekir sniffing the air as the pugnant smell og gunsmoke asiled his nostrils. Pretty soon however, that was not all which asiled them.

Peering around a corner, a scene of bloody massacre awaited them. Numerous bodies lying in steadily growing pools of blood were strewn about on the floor. The only exceptions to this was a tall Frenchman in a police captains uniform, standing as an act of defiance to the bloodbath around him, completely unharmed. Beneath him an elderly man in the white robes of a clergyman lay outstretched upon the floor, and Bekir guessed that this had to be the man they were looking for, as the reflection in his hand held mirror seemed to pay this man his emediate attention.

"Take him out" Bekir mouthed to his two companions, taking aim as he spoke. He could hardly belive his luck - this had almost been too easy!

no 1945 and since this "alternative" 1945 it isnt crazy or insaneto rush something into production i have a production team and scientists

B-52 Stratofortress

The Boeing B-52 Stratofortress is a long-range strategic bomber flown by the United States Air Force since 1955, replacing the Convair B-36. Although built for the role of Cold War-era nuclear deterrent, its conventional capabilities are these days the more important role in USAF operations, where its long range and heavy weapons load prove valuable.

http://www.asinah.net/articles/content/b/b_/b_52_stratofortress.html

I think its a bit weird, thats all.

no 1945 and since this "alternative" 1945 it isnt crazy or insaneto rush something into production i have a production team and scientists

OOC: Several flaws with your theory:

1) It's May of 1940.

2) Finland's production teams suck, they had some of the worst tech of WWII because their economy wasn't good enough to match Germany and the US's production.

3) The B-52 was an American invention, you would have no idea how to construct it, as you do not have any access to its plans. At this point there may be ideas circulating in the Weapons Development section of the U.S. Military, but I doubt there are even any basic first draft plans for the B-52 out.


Also, 750,000 troops, yet you only sent 75,000 troops at the Russian border...and can you provide proof that Finland had 750,000 troops during 1940 of WWII?

I got that, but why the hell is he receiving weapons from USSR if i never said that i am gonna give them to him?

Did you ever think they may have smuggled them in. After all, Siberia is a sparsley populated wasteland and the USSR wouldn't have the capabilities to guard ever square mile of the border.

I'm not going to ignore them, it seems perfectly legitimate that these weapons were smuggled into Mongolia from the USSR.

The three Vestibules that were outside the rear exit to the narrow alley beyond were completely off guard as the bomb was thrown at them. What were once some of Frances fine astute guards now resemble a horrible tragedy. As the bomb was tossed one of the Syrian officers managed to get a few shots off in the alley, aiming at nothing, but hoping for a miracle. None did come for them.

As the Turkish men make there way up the stairs and to the room of the now injured Shukri al-Kuwatli , Dreche stood firm over his prisoner. The wound was not bad, but Shukri would not be running off to Jerusalem any time real soon. He needed medical attention, and soon, or he would be permanently injured if not get a deadly infection. This was not Frances opinion on how to treat people, but safety and their own well being always came first.

Dreche paused for a second. He heard something coming from the door way. Gervise and Frederick, who were still alive, could do little right now but hold to their failing consciousness by a thin strand. Once Dreche heard the words, he shouted back as an order to a lackey, “I am Lieutenant Dreche Fieleua... You will run and get medical attention. Our doctors will help treat and return him to normal. We only wish to discuss his views on Syrian independence. If you stand in my way further there will be consequences to your belligerence.”

Dreche turns with a dire stare of concern that the men in the hallway are only interested in blood shed and will care nothing about loosing a fellow Syrian. His revolver newly reloaded with bullets was held firm in his left hand as he stands between the men and al-Kuwatli with resolve.

Bump

Muslim clergy are in a heated debate when news comes in that imperialist military forces are gathering in this very city. The outrage and fear that this causes within the ranks of populace that are concerned with freedom and self determination rile them to a boil, and their tempers are in full intent on showing their displeasure with European's by way of bullets.

Cleric leader Mohamed Habali of the Temple Mount which holds the dome of the rock makes a final commandment to all who are present in the gathering at the temple.

“To those of Syria, Lebanon, Jerusalem, Egypt, Iraq, Iran, Jordan, and of course... Saudi Arabia.”

“Though our faces are not seen together often, it is with great faith that we come to understand the lives of each other, and that our problems are all similar in nature within our people regardless of who we choose to name our lands as. It is that we are not allowed to live out our lives as Allah has intended that is bring upon us the strife and torment of these white men of greed. They do not wish to understand or allow us free reign in our own homes. They gather up peoples who wish to unite us, and throw them to the dogs as a scrap of rancid meat. I say to you that we will not take this any further. By the words of Cleric Rashinde of the The Great Mosque of Damascus, we shall all take to arms against these people and strike out with Allah's strength at our back. Go out and find these infidels that come upon our lands as captures and take our precious resources, and our stock to add to their own gluttony.”

“Go now and let not a man stand in your way as you preach upon your people the evils of consorting, and the glory of independence!”

There is much cheering and commotion as the Clergy stand and say good by to each other. Not knowing what may be awaiting them outside the walls of the holy structure is unknown, but they are resolved to unite for once, and stand fast in their lands against all who would oppose them.

Bump

OOC. - Excuse my naivety, I'm an old fart who has only just started using the internet. I assume the phrase BUMP is to encourage more posts. Correct me if I'm wrong.

ps - sorry for being an old fart again, what does lol mean?

OOC: Which year are you guys in? If you're in april 1940, can I play as Norway then? Please?

OOC: Cotland, It's May, 1940. But, feel free to join in? You have to sign up on the OOC thread (See first page)

Did you ever think they may have smuggled them in. After all, Siberia is a sparsley populated wasteland and the USSR wouldn't have the capabilities to guard ever square mile of the border.

I'm not going to ignore them, it seems perfectly legitimate that these weapons were smuggled into Mongolia from the USSR.

OOC: Not to mention.....aren't you Allies? :headbang: Or Mongolia was like a Sphere of Influence or something. Why wouldn't you supply him with weapons?!

OOC: Cotland, It's May, 1940. But, feel free to join in? You have to sign up on the OOC thread (See first page)
May '40? damn. Norway surrendered on the 10th of May... But the Spec.Forces and volunteers were in England. Meybe I can play as them...

OOC: Not to mention.....aren't you Allies? :headbang: Or Mongolia was like a Sphere of Influence or something. Why wouldn't you supply him with weapons?!

Around 1940, the majority of Mongolia was absorbed by the Soviet Union. Therefore, the USSR has major influence over Mongolia.

Also, just because Norway surrendered in the actual conflict doesn't mean that they will in this RP. Heck, Germany may not even attack your nation. Remember this RP is not going to be exactly like the actual war. The Allies may win, the Axis may win, who knows.

OOC: Several flaws with your theory:

1) It's May of 1940.

2) Finland's production teams suck, they had some of the worst tech of WWII because their economy wasn't good enough to match Germany and the US's production.

3) The B-52 was an American invention, you would have no idea how to construct it, as you do not have any access to its plans. At this point there may be ideas circulating in the Weapons Development section of the U.S. Military, but I doubt there are even any basic first draft plans for the B-52 out.


Also, 750,000 troops, yet you only sent 75,000 troops at the Russian border...and can you provide proof that Finland had 750,000 troops during 1940 of WWII?

yes very first page like 3rd post it gave my stats for THE START. you can always get a few more troops during a war by simply drafting civilians and considering its been a few months NS time 50,000 additional troops isntcrazy for a contry of like (10 million i think), as far as the strarosphere bomber fine i guess i cant use that eithe,.....sigh added to the long list of stuff i cant use, thompson,50 caliber browning,serman tanks,lancaster,.....b-52

Revert Romance, use this website for weapon information.

Finnish Weapons of WW2 (http://www.winterwar.com/Weapons/SmallArms.htm)

The two great armies finally collided and the first shots to be fired were that of the Finland Advance Corp, A very bloody day of fighting took it toll of live on both sides as more Russinas fell it became apperant that the russian infantry man was simply outgunned. They fell back the first day a mere 3 miles but they were pushed far enough south that the town's cut off men 50,000 remaining were able to group up with the large task force and start therefight back to the Finland Border over 450,000 Russians were still on the Finland Russian border and the stage was set for the great stand off, The orginal line (defenses) is extended farther south and the town is later abodoned to safe gaurd the Finland border rather face another invasion 450,000 russian now face an hard-nosed 725,000 Fins determined to never let another Russian back in Fins border

(sorry if i diditnhave enuff time to type it right, may be alot of grammer mistakes but i was in a hurry and this is the last time ill b able to get on for liek a day

Revert Romance, use this website for weapon information.

Finnish Weapons of WW2 (http://www.winterwar.com/Weapons/SmallArms.htm)

thanks i couldnt really find a good site with all the figures just a few with a couple rough numbers and equiptment pieces (that were wrong) but thanks alot great site

thanks i couldnt really find a good site with all the figures just a few with a couple rough numbers and equiptment pieces (that were wrong) but thanks alot great site

OOC: You can thank Google.

The two great armies finally collided and the first shots to be fired were that of the Finland Advance Corp, A very bloody day of fighting took it toll of live on both sides as more Russinas fell it became apperant that the russian infantry man was simply outgunned. They fell back the first day a mere 3 miles but they were pushed far enough south that the town's cut off men 50,000 remaining were able to group up with the large task force and start therefight back to the Finland Border over 450,000 Russians were still on the Finland Russian border and the stage was set for the great stand off, The orginal line (defenses) is extended farther south and the town is later abodoned to safe gaurd the Finland border rather face another invasion 450,000 russian now face an hard-nosed 725,000 Fins determined to never let another Russian back in Fins border

(sorry if i diditnhave enuff time to type it right, may be alot of grammer mistakes but i was in a hurry and this is the last time ill b able to get on for liek a day


OOC: Okay thats it, i am ignoring you, you god modded. How the hell was i outgunned? You had 75000 men and i had 540000. No we didn't fall back. Until you stop god modding i am gonna ignore you. Also there were no B-52 bombers during WW2. Russia had an airforce and pretty big one too, learn history. I could cut off your supply line very easy, just by going into Finland and cutting it off. A town would be easy to take, you couldn't have left many men in there and my bombers take care of those. As for bringing supplies by planes. Well guess what, i am shooting most of those plains down. Anyways, i can just move in 20 million troops and smack your ass, but i am gonna give you a chance and ignore you this time. Take advantage. But just so you know that two can play this game.

IC: Russian forces successfully took out Finish armies and are marching towards Helsinky

OOC: Guess what, i can godmod too. Tenarius please put an end to this.

Alright, lets pretend that this whole Russia Finland thing didnt happen.

Reverent Romance, please use some common sense/logic when posting.

Puska, give Reverent Romace some slack. After all, he's new (just like we are) and he probably isnt familiar with the RPing process.

May '40? damn. Norway surrendered on the 10th of May... But the Spec.Forces and volunteers were in England. Meybe I can play as them...

OOC: Lol, We're on THe 10th of May.... or beyond it. I'm really not sure of the date. But Germany hasn't :headbang: Invaded anyone yet. So it's either a couple months past, or still May 10th. Either way, Norway is still all whole.

OOC: Lol, We're on THe 10th of May.... or beyond it. I'm really not sure of the date. But Germany hasn't :headbang: Invaded anyone yet. So it's either a couple months past, or still May 10th. Either way, Norway is still all whole.

OOC: I'm building up troops and making alliances, alright!?!

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IC: General Manstien was showing his plan for the invasion of France to German High Command.

"Here is a map of my plan for the invasion of France. It outlines the Maginot Line and with the recent update of Belgium allowing us to us its lands to invade France:"

OOC: Still trying to get an invasion map.


IC: "It will surely suprise the Französische and Briten. I assure you it will work..."

Alright, lets pretend that this whole Russia Finland thing didnt happen.

Reverent Romance, please use some common sense/logic when posting.

Puska, give Reverent Romace some slack. After all, he's new (just like we are) and he probably isnt familiar with the RPing process.

Hell neither am i, but sure i'll cut him slack.

Hell neither am i, but sure i'll cut him slack.
IM NOT GOD MODDING PUSHKA AND ITS BEEN THE 10TH OF MAY FOR LIKE WEEK NOW ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OOC: Okay thats it, i am ignoring you, you god modded. How the hell was i outgunned? You had 75000 men and i had 540000. No we didn't fall back. Until you stop god modding i am gonna ignore you. Also there were no B-52 bombers during WW2. Russia had an airforce and pretty big one too, learn history. I could cut off your supply line very easy, just by going into Finland and cutting it off. A town would be easy to take, you couldn't have left many men in there and my bombers take care of those. As for bringing supplies by planes. Well guess what, i am shooting most of those plains down. Anyways, i can just move in 20 million troops and smack your ass, but i am gonna give you a chance and ignore you this time. Take advantage. But just so you know that two can play this game.

IC: Russian forces successfully took out Finish armies and are marching towards Helsinky

OOC: Guess what, i can godmod too. Tenarius please put an end to this.

IM NOT GODMODING YOU DUMBASS AND 20M MEN WTF EVEN THAT A JOKE YOUR BEING A JACKASSREAD THE DAMN TREAD I MOVED MEN IN FROM THE COUNTRIES INTERIOR TO THE BORDER IT'S BEEN RPED IN THE BEGINNING READ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!BUT WHAT THE HELL FINE IM SORRY THIS WHOLE FINLAND RUSSIA THING WAS A "PRE WAR WAR GAME EXCERSICE" SO ITS THE 10TH OF MAY AND NOTHING HAS HAPPEN!!!!!!!!

OOC: It's a ways past the 10th of May, but not by too much. Welcome to life RevertRomance, these RPs can't be rushed, they have to be calm, careful, and take plenty of time.

OOC: Sorry havn't replied yet Ollieland, been busy lately.

IC: To: General Smuts, Praetoria
From: Il Duce Mussolini, Rome

I thank you for the advice concerning military conflict, however it is now too late to avoid battle. We now only ask that you aid us in our campaign against the French and the British. We hope that you will help us to purge them from the land.

To the Government of the United States of America

We and our allies have a very urgent need for military aircraft of nearly all types. We wish to negotiate an immediate deal. Please inform us on the equipment you are wishing to sell, if any, and at what price.

We also have a need for Hi-Octane aviation fuel.


To: Prime Minister Churchill
From: Premier Reynaud
Our Dear British Allies,
At the advice of my generals, I am asking that as many aircraft of anytype, as well as pilots (Both to fly, and to teach our own French Pilots their art's) as you can Spare. Although we can offer pilots of our own, they will need to learn the art of flying your specific aircraft as many of ours are out of date. We thank you once again for your continued support,
-The Nation of France,

Alas, we are ourselves drastically short on aircraft. We are attempting to raise our domestic production and import new models from the United States, but can provide little help right now. We can only suggest that you close production of old models and focus on producing the D.520 as well as design improved tactical bombers.

I got that, but why the hell is he receiving weapons from USSR if i never said that i am gonna give them to him?

OOC: Mongolia was a Soviet ally since the 1920's and fought against Japan with Soviet troops in isolated battles in the 30's. It was basically a puppet government that used almost entirely Russian equipment.


ps - sorry for being an old fart again, what does lol mean?

It stands for "laughing out loud" :)

OOC: I hope I didn't miss any posts addressed to me...

The Afrikanns National Party delegation left Smuts office after 4 hours. They left a stunned General behind. His intelligence chief came in and informed himof the Italian communication that they had recieved. Well, thought Smuts, the decision has been made for me on two counts.

There was now no choice but to make a statement. He called his secretary in and began to dictate. Her eyes opened wide as she realised the enormity of what of the General was saying.

Recent events have conspired to throw South Africa anto a war in which she has no interest. It is not the duty of proud Afrikaans settlers to salve bruised British colonial pride. It is for this reason that the government of Sotuh Africa hereby issues the following edicts:

1 - South Africa is officially ceding from the British commenwealth, and declares the second Boer Republic of South Africa (BRSA).
2 - BRSA occupied German SW Africa is hereby renamed Namibia and incorporated into the BRSA as its 5th province.
3 - The BRSA Militia is hereby formed. Members will be of Boer descent and will provide their own weaponry.
3 - The British colonies of Basutuland and Swaziland are to be occupied by the BRSA milita, and will be declared as the 6th and 7th provinces of the BRSA.
4 - British Somaliland and Palestine are now under the protection of the BRSA. (The 4th Sth Afr Inf Div is hereby ordered to turn round from its march to Damascus and head to Jerusalem). Our forces there are to take over colonial buildings and to arrest the local governors.
5 - All foriegn military and government officials in the BRSA and BRSA occupied territories are to be placed under house arrest pending repatriation to their home countries. Any attack by these forces on our own m,ilitary will be considered an act of war.
6 - A non Aggression and "Spheres of Influence" pact is to be negotiated with Italy.
7 - Conscription and military expansion is to be enacted to allow for a field army of between 500,00 and 750,000 men. All borders with British occupied Bechuanaland and Northern and Southern Rhodesia are to be closed and fortified.
8 - An open invitation is hereby given to the governments of Southern Rhodesia, Australia, New Zealand, Canada and Ireland to declare full independence from Britain with the full support of the BRSA.

To; Australian PM, Sydney
From; General Smuts, Praetoria

We are sorry that the situation has come to this, but we are no longer prepared to be a British puppet. We have no quarrels with the brave soldiers of the ANZAC military, and will happily allow them free passage out of British Somaliland, to go where they please, unescorted by us.
We further urge you to consider your own position. The British are using you to prop up their empire. Surely you find this degrading! Remember your friends in the BRSA if you wish to break free form your shackles.

To; Il Duce Mussolini, Rome
From; General Smuts, Praetoria

We have declared independence and are in the process of taking over British Somaliland. In return we expect you to stand down troops from the Abbyssianian-Somaliland border and sign a treaty of non aggression. do you agree?

To; Governments of Canada and Ireland

We have declared independence and urge you to do the same. You no longer need to be the puppets of Britain. We urge you to declare full independence, and we will help you.

To; Government of Southern Rhodesia

The BRSA hereby invites you to join with us and form the 8th province of our great republic.
(OOC - The people of Southern Rhodesia were if anything the most anti British of all colonials (except, pehaps, the Irish), and were also economically and culturally tied to South Africa, so I am assuming this offer would have been accepted. However, If anyone has any realistic objections I will remove this part of the post.)

Some pistols look business like, others look dangerous, mean, cruel, wicked or simply plain dull. The Turkish army pistols the Roshadiya agents had been issued with were deffinetely of a more wicked persuasion.

The sallow-faced Bekir swallowed a lump in his throat as the man presenting himself as Dreche turned to stare into the muzzles of their weapons. He almost looked, in the twilight of the curtained bloodbath, like some manner of improbable saint, standing untoutched in the midst of all the carnage around him.

"A doctors can wait, Mr. Dreche, until you drop your sidearm and kick it over towards me" Bekir said, clutching his pistol in a sweathy palm, pointing it just above the bridge of the Frenchman's nose.

A bead of sweat ran down Hamid's temple as he glanced towards Etchi, standing on the other side of Bekir. They were both aiming their pistols at Dreche, albeit at his torso, instead of his head.

"Drop the gun sir, just drop it right this instant!" Etchi chimed in as he shuffled his feet a little bit, observing their enemy cearfully, trying to anticipate his next move...

(OoC: I'm unsure as to how much internet access I'm going ot enjoy for the next couple of weeks, as I'll be spending them away from home. My appolegies for this inconvenience, and for my sad attempt at English grammar)

(Oh, and before I forget - If Dreche hesitates for more than a few seconds or does anything other than drop his revolver, the nervous Roshadiya agents will open fire pointblank ...A sad case of itchy trigger fingers)

(You are of course, still entitled to decide just what happens to your character. FoD and all that. Good posting by the way!)

(Wow... this post suddenly became much longer than I had anticipated... Oh well)

To: the government of the Boer Republic of South Africa
From: The Government of Australia and New Zealand

We remind you that you are indipendant, as are Canada, Ireland and we. Our only connection to Great Britain is the commonwealth. We urge you to not deliver yourself to the Fascist government of Italy. They will betray you and will occupy your lands once you together have ridden yourself of the British. I regret to say that if you continue this course of actions, we must declare hostilities. We ,however, immediantly retreat our ANZAC infantry division to Kenya from where we continue this war against the fascist goverment of Italy. We have no intentions to attack you, this is a thing between you and Great Britain. We warn you, if you turn yourself at British possesions, we must declare war on you.

Signed, Willy Wonka (sorry, couldn't find a name:D) Prime minister of Australia and New Zealand.

(OOC: Thanks, and you certainly are the perfect complement to this story. Thanks for coming along. :D
Don't worry about grammar, mine is pretty bad, and this is my native language... We can restart this once you are back if you are gone that long. I look forward to finding where you are going to take my main leader.)

Dreche paused for half a second then drooped his weapon. Although he was a master weaponsmith and perfect shot, people did not need to die. This was a mistake gone horribly wrong and he was not going to top it off with his own death. Their accent was intriguing and Dreche was of the opinion that these men were not all they appeared to be.

The sound of the heavy revolver clanked to the floor like a heavy weight with a resounding echo through the quiet district. There surely were people watching now, and he was not about to get the Syrians rilled up thinking that a death squad was the only purpose of the French police. “ I am not going to kick the gun to you. The floor is made of wood planks and it might accidentally set off th gun. And sliding across the floor like that would fire a deadly bullet into God knows who. You can come pick it up though.”

His voice was drenched in contempt, his manners were stiff and calculated. But a hint of respect for their offer to allow him to live and not shoot from the shadows like cowards showed brightly in his face. He smiled briefly, then started for his two wounded men. He was not going to let any further men loose their lives today, “I am going to treat my men now. If you chose to kill an unarmed man... Well I am sure that hell has a place for you. Otherwise I would tend to al-Kuwatli or else you will have wasted your time in coming here.”

He pulls at his shirt and easily tears off a chunk out of the fabric and starts winding it to create a tourniquet. Dreche was half thinking that they would shoot him in the back. But if that was the kind of people that they were, they would do it regardless of what he was in the process of doing. He feverishly hoped that they were better then that.

IM NOT GODMODING YOU DUMBASS AND 20M MEN WTF EVEN THAT A JOKE YOUR BEING A JACKASSREAD THE DAMN TREAD I MOVED MEN IN FROM THE COUNTRIES INTERIOR TO THE BORDER IT'S BEEN RPED IN THE BEGINNING READ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!BUT WHAT THE HELL FINE IM SORRY THIS WHOLE FINLAND RUSSIA THING WAS A "PRE WAR WAR GAME EXCERSICE" SO ITS THE 10TH OF MAY AND NOTHING HAS HAPPEN!!!!!!!!

OOC: Ooh, someone needs medicine. Anyways, son, i read your stuff. You said that your forces are gonna reach my forces in 3 NS days, well it hasn't passed yet. But hey guess what i can commit to this fully and just send millions of soldiers up your ass. So how about you be a nice bitch and go inside your hole and wait for me to come and rape you. OKay so lets say Finland never attacked.

IC:
"Official order issued by Stalin"

Today comrades we will take Finland, they were once a part of Russia and they shall be once again. We will not have fascist scum challenging us with their existance. I commit 5 million men of 7th, 10th, 11th, 23rd, 2nd, 13th and Western front SHTRAFBAT batalion for this task. Also i commit 7 thousand tanks and 3000 planes, plus artillery and medics. We will over run!!!!!!

Soviet forces are starting to group near the border with Finland, they are to attack the border from three separate spots and reunite once they reach Helsinky. Good luck comrades! Your motherland is proud of you!

OOC: First off. *#%*%. Where's the BRITISH men that would've occupied all of the following lands you just claimed to take? They didn't have much down there, (But they did have some...) unless you have taken Egypt, (Or tried too) But the fact of the matter is, any British forces there would've fought. Next off, Thanks for forgetting to try anything with 'French Somaliland' ;) , or more, the Afar's and the Issas.
And... most of the Colonies were mostly independant already, as already stated... As well. I can't see raising 500,000 men out of nothing, conscription or not. The tribes would've inter-fought, there wasn't that many Brit's (I don't think) There, who largely wouldn't have fought anyways. Not for the Boer's anyways...
Finally, without the support of any vast majority of the White Men, (I presume you are a white man), IE: South Africa, British Lands, the Boer's wouldn't be able to take over like that.., and the White men wouldn't have accepted an African take-over very well... Not to mention if a Tribal leader did it, then only his tribe really would probably support him. So.. I'm just curious... :confused: as to how this all worked out...

IC:
Tadjoura was sleeping when he was informed of the South African so called ‘ceding’ from the British Empire. After a few minutes of confused yelling, the first task he had done, was to have all of his men roused. This would only take a few minutes, as his office was located only 3 minutes away by foot from the Southern Barrack’s.
OOC: I couldn’t find official number’s anywhere, so, I’m presuming they had one small force for the North, and one for the South. One at Djibouti, and one at Khor Angar.
Even as he continued to grapple with the situation, men were being woken up and preparing just in case. He heard shouting in the street’s as Squads rushed past to pre-designed locations, originally intended for riot control if the city had risen, but they would serve the purpose for now, as he doubted an invasion was commencing any time soon. Still, he did have to try and contain this uprising, especially if any occurred here. A messenger was sent by jeep to the Northern barrack’s, warning them to be on guard for any mischief from the North. As well as asking to send any spare men down to Djibouti. The harbour of Khor Angar was asked to shell any ship’s leaving from Africa flying the flag of the ‘Boer’, or as what quickly became a barracks joke, the ‘bores’.

Before leaving however, he issued some final order’s, first he sent one squad to the harbour, where there would be a significant number of sailor’s, both British, French and of other nationalities. They would ask for any volunteer’s from the crew’s, -he wasn’t too hopeful for these, but, then again he had to try. As well, the coastal guns were instructed to shell any ship departing from Africa headed towards the Mediterranean that didn’t have the proper flag’s flying. Those ship’s that originated from South Africa, or Somaliland were given the choice of becoming part of the French empire, staying as a Free British ship, or being impounded. As the officer’s were largely British in most cases, they decided to stay with the British Empire. There were one or two incidents, but the squad was largely surprised to find that even the sailor’s seemed content with their captain’s decisions.

Not for the first time in his career was he glad for having established ties with several influential people in the populace. With the large majority of people being located right here in Djibouti, any stern resistance would have to come from this area. It was just noon local time, and the sun was high in the air, but with so much pressure already around him, the heat seemed more bearable than usual. When he reached the local bar, one of three watering holes in the city, he found some people were already discussing the situation. There was a low hush when he entered, but only until the bar tender came around, beer already in his hand. His speech was an odd combination of French and his local language, as before meeting Tadjoura, the only French he had needed was for business, still it was improving.
“Ah, my friend, let me guess, you are here to ask us what our favorite types of pies?”
“Only if I get to paste one on your face afterwords!”
At this, the man gave a mock expression of anger and fright,
“A threat! I may have to charge you 10% extra!”
“Do that and I’ll make it two pies!”
Although the tension still filled the air, the bar room babble began to come back, and the familiar retorts did bring a smile to Tadjoura’s face, even if only temporarily. Still, people gave him nervous glances, as he sat down and took his beer in one hand. Taking a sip or two, he eventually called the Bar tender over again,
“Look, you probably know why I’m here. I’m looking for anyone who would want to fight, or at least, help defend their homeland, against anything the Boer’s might try. I’ll even allow for tribe based squads, but I do need more men if I am to defend anything. I should leave, but, can you do that for me?”
After only a moment’s hesitation, the bartender nodded, “I will send anyone whom I convince to your office?”. Answering with a slow nod, Tadjoura added, “Or the barrack’s. Have the men tell them your there to volunteer to fight the Boer’s. The last thing we want to do is let them establish another apartheid here.”
With that last comment given, the bartender gave a thoughtful glance at Tadjoura’s face, before voicing agreement.
Leaving a little more than was needed for the beer, -nothing inspires a man like money, Tadjoura left, and headed to the second bar, behind him hearing the bartender’s voice, slightly faded, “…..Honour…. Dignity…. Women and Chil…” and then it disappeared. A smile crossed his face, who knows, maybe he’d even get some of the tribal members who fought.

An hour or so later, he left the last bar, by now his mood had improved. French troops were very visible, and when he returned to his office, there were quite a few people outside. More than he would’ve thought of. Moving through them, he had a few last orders sent out, before settling down to handle the day’s business. First he had all Native police officer’s brought to their respective stations, and he asked that all Newspaper’s reserve their front page, and print a request for volunteer’s. With luck, he might get almost 3,000 to 5,000 men. Certainly not trained, to fight a war, but they would still hold a gun if need be. Sending off a message to Paris, he settled in with a sigh.

Telegram to South Africa:

Salutations,

On this great day, we see a nation binding itself from the
chains of Britain. We also see a nation in need of help and
support in this time of peril for it. The Emperor himself has
authorized me to show you support in your bid for
independance; his word is law in Japan, and we have pledged
to help you earn your freedom.

If you are in need of aid, let us know, the Empire of Japan is
willing to help.

Yours Truly,
Prime Minister Mitsumama


Telegram to The United States of America:

Salutations,

Relations have become strained between our two nations
since Japan attacked China. Japan has no desire to fight a
war with those who helped them so in the past. We wish to
negotiate some sort of alliance, or at least a Non-Aggression
Pact between our two nations. Japan merely wishes for a
free East Asia, free from the tyranny of european rule; can
you not also understand how people can wish for independance?

Please get back to us on this matter, we hope to remain friends.

Yours Truly,
Prime Minister Mitsumama

Leige, Belgium

Sous-Chef d'Etat-major Général Maglinse, a youthful figure of 35 years with Raven Black hair and a pencil thin mustache, sat at his 16th Century desk. To his left, a large window reveals the beautiful city of Liege basking in the Morning light.

The Général is the renowned leader of the Belgian Royal Colonial Army (BRCA), one of the finest trained armies in Belgium, given the task to defend the remote lands of Zaire.

Looking out the large, thick-pained window, Maglinse smiled as he viewed the beautiful Commercial District, the lush, green vegetation planted at each street corner. The Fortress of Liege, looming over the outskirts of the city.

Maglise was amazed at what the Fortress had become. What was once a puny fortification, armed with obsolete weapons and poorly trained conscripts had become an impregnable Citadel, armed to the teeth with the latest in Modern Technology.

Knock...Knock

Facing the small wooden door at the end of the room, the General quietly stepped over to his bookcase and pulled a rather large book from the shelf.

" Come in." Maglinse said, his voice unwavering.

A man, wiry and young, entered the room. Within the grasp of his hand, contained a small telegram.

" What do you have for me today Jean?" the General quietly said, as he returned to the desk in the center of his office.

" Telegram from Major Le'Trissant. He says its urgent."

Taking the small yellow paper from the secretaries hand, Maglinse carefully read the text.

----Transmission May 8 1940----

To: Sous-Chef d'Etat-major Général Maglinse
From: Major Jaques Le'Trissant

General,

Due to the recent hostilities between the colonial
forces of Italy and Britain, we request that you
immediately dispatch 2 Divisions of BRCA Forces to the
colony of Zaire. Although we do not wish to be dragged
into this conflict, we hope that strengthening our defenses in
Zaire will deter incursions into our territory.

Thanks,
Jacques Le'Trissant
Commanding Officer in the field
Leopoldville, Zaire

----Transmission Ended----


Neatly folding the paper in his hand, the General opened one of his many desk drawers and inserted into the dark space.

" Jean, I need you to notify General Belenaux and Crecant that the 15th and 19th BRCA Regiments, along with the 138th Artillery Battalion will be deployed to Zaire, as a defensive measure. They are to report to Antwerp, 0800 hours, tomorrow."

" Yes, Sir! I will notify them immediately."

Rushing out of the brightly lit room, the wiry secretary went about his business, leaving General Maglinse to think to himself.


BRCA Barracks, Ghent,Belgium

"NO YOU IDIOT, SHOOT UP!"

Grabbing the Fusil Rifle from the new recruits hands, Corporal Andres Etwas continued to scold the now shaken private.

Andres hated doing this, watching these maggots in their futile attempt to shoot a wooden target, 500 yards away. It truly frightened him to know that these blubbering bastards would be the ones defending Belgium from invasion.

"Look through this, then fire!"

Pushing the rifle back into his, arms the young recruit began to fire at his target.

As the enraged Corporal went to go scold the other recruits, his buddy Sergeant Jean Brodeaux urgently strode towards him.

"Andres! Andres!" he excitedly said

"What?"

" Were being deployed to Zaire! Lieutenant Recusant says to pack up our gear and report to the briefing hall as soon as possible."

" Well, what are we waiting for? Lets go!"

The two soldiers rushed towards their barracks to suit up and to grab their equipment. Within 6 hours they would be on a transport to the exotic lands of Africa.

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Forces being deployed to Zaire

15th BRCA Regiment (1st ID)
Enlisted: 3,120
Officers: 580

18th BRCA Regiment (13th ID)
Enlisted: 3,800
Officers: 478

138th Artillery Battalion (5th ID)
Enlisted: 852
Officers: 110

66th Supply Division
Enlisted: 4,788
Officers: 1,718

Total Forces Deployed: 15,394

Equipment:

Infantry:
Fusil 1889 Bolt-Action Rifles- 10478
Fusil-Mitrailleur 1930 Light Machine Guns- 1804
Lance Grenades De 50mm DBT Mortars- 165
MG 221 Heavy Machine Guns- 400
75mm L24 Bofors Anti-Tank Guns- 150

Armor:
T-13 Light Tanks- 25
T-15 Medium Tanks- 11
150mm Howitzers- 53
75mm Howitzers- 78

Telegram to Germany from Kremlin

We are attacking Finland and are already counting days towards our quick victory. It has come to our attention that you are preoccupied with war in Europe. We also know that Finland is your ally.

We have a proposition. If you do not aid Finland against us, and give us some lands in eastern europe (Poland, Latvia, etc) we will aid you in your fight against the allies. We await your answer as our troops are preparing to crush Finland.

OMG YOUR FUCKING GODMODDING I FORGOT YOUR SOOOOO STRONG TO TAKE A CONTRY WITHOUT A SINGLE DEATH TO ANY FORCES I FUCKING QUIT JACKASS

OMG YOUR FUCKING GODMODDING I FORGOT YOUR SOOOOO STRONG TO TAKE A CONTRY WITHOUT A SINGLE DEATH TO ANY FORCES I FUCKING QUIT JACKASS

Like i care, also i never said that i took you out, i just said that i am gonna take you out, which is the most probable thing. My forces are still accumulating near your border. Well i guess you can't read. Bad for you. Anyways, i deleted that message, Germany won't do shit anyways.

OOC: Mongolia was a Soviet ally since the 1920's and fought against Japan with Soviet troops in isolated battles in the 30's. It was basically a puppet government that used almost entirely Russian equipment.

I know that, but this is not real history, he has to ask before taking weapons from me.

OOC: Again Pushka, he smuggled them in. He doesn't need to ask your government to smuggle something into a country.

Anyways, I think from the way he described his main characters, it implied that Stalin and his buddies didnt like them too much.

OOC: Again Pushka, he smuggled them in. He doesn't need to ask your government to smuggle something into a country.

Anyways, I think from the way he described his main characters, it implied that Stalin and his buddies didnt like them too much.

OOC: Alright then, no problem, didn't really read into his post.

OOC: First off. *#%*%. Where's the BRITISH men that would've occupied all of the following lands you just claimed to take? They didn't have much down there, (But they did have some...) unless you have taken Egypt, (Or tried too) But the fact of the matter is, any British forces there would've fought.

British military policy throughout the thirties was one of running down the army. colonial occupations were often left to dominion rtroops, and these troop (Australian, New Zealand, South African and Canadian) had no British officers or men. There were often only a few thousand, sometimes only a few hundred tropps in colonial areas, especially a civilly quiet area lkike Somaliland was at the time. The vast bulk of the British army was deployed in Egypt and at home. And I am certainly not stupid enough to try taking Egypt on my own. In the two areas I am trying to take my troops are already on the ground by negotiation and outnumber British troops. I f the British fight back )as they doubtless will) then I will rp that fight. Thats why were all doing thi#s isn't it?

[QUOTE=New Scott-Land]OOC: Next off, Thanks for forgetting to try anything with 'French Somaliland' ;) , or more, the Afar's and the Issas.[QUOTE]

I certainly didn't forget, I just didn't want to provoke you.

[QUOTE=New Scott-Land] OOc; And... most of the Colonies were mostly independant already, as already stated... [QUOTE]

South Africa, Australia, New Zealand, Canada and Ireland were noy colonies as such, they were Dominions. Internally they were totally independent with their own armed forces, but technically they had to follow British foriegn and war policy. The only country that didn't at this time was Ireland.

[QUOTE=New Scott-Land]OOC; As well. I can't see raising 500,000 men out of nothing, conscription or not. The tribes would've inter-fought, there wasn't that many Brit's (I don't think) There, who largely wouldn't have fought anyways. Not for the Boer's anyways...[QUOTE]

There were nearly 5 million white settlers in South Africa in 1938, of whom approx 80% were of Afrikaans or Boer descent. I don't think that 10% of that figure is too high for an army, considering the numbers mobilised by the European nations.

[QUOTE=New Scott-Land]OOc; Finally, without the support of any vast majority of the White Men, (I presume you are a white man), IE: South Africa, British Lands, the Boer's wouldn't be able to take over like that.., and the White men wouldn't have accepted an African take-over very well... Not to mention if a Tribal leader did it, then only his tribe really would probably support him. So.. I'm just curious... :confused: as to how this all worked out...[QUOTE]

aHH i SEE. mY APOLOGIES. The term Boer is an old fashioned word for Afrikaaners, which is what General Smuts was. By instigating the Boer republic, I have giveen South Africa to the white Afrikaaners. There has certainly not been a native takover, which at the time would have been totally unrealistic. I agree that the chain of events is unlikely, but its not impossible. I thought that was the ideas of this RP, to see if we could take history in another direction

ps- I don't know if you are trying to insinuate something with your "I presume you are a white man" comment, but please remember that I am role playing here. Any views expressed here certainly don't represent my real views. My apologies if you didn't mean anything, but remember that this is a RP.

Bob
Understands
Much of
Punjabi

To; Prime Minister Mitsumama, Tokya
From; General Smuts, Praetoria

We would like to lay an open invitation to the Japanes Imperial Navy to visit teh Boer Republic. Our ports are now open to you.

King Haakon VII looked out the window down on the statue of Karl Johan, sitting proudly on his horse on the top of the street named after him.
What is to become of Norway, the king thought. The latest news from around the world was not encouraging. The Nazis were pushing on into France, Belgium and the Netherlands, while at the same time mining Norwegian territorial waters along with the British Royal Navy. Sure, the Royal Norwegian Navy had tried to stop it, escorting the warships out of Norwegian waters, but the whole Altmark affair in Jøssingfjorden was straining the Norwegian neutrality.
What is to happen now? the king thought. He was to meet the Commanding General, Major-General Kristian Laake, soon. Then, he would plan for the purchase of modern arms for the Norwegian military, which hadn't been modernized since 1905, when Norway broke away from the union with Sweden. They had finally got the go-ahead from the Storting. C.J. Hambro, the Stortingspresident had visited the palace just a few hours ago with the good news. Maybe now, the Germans and British, and perhaps even the Soviets, would be discouraged from any thoughts of invasion.

To: German and Japanese Officals
From: Unspecified Mexican Offical
As both may know, the American-Mexican War has left us charred in flames and weak militaristically. I myself have been working myself up in the powers of this government to form a fully united nation. I, however, have a propessition for both of you.
I currently represent the only neutral nation that could swing towards the Axis Force and give a good strategic point on an invasion of the United States, a key power in the world that could bring your down fall.
If you help me with my problems, I will help you with a northern threat.

Por Favor,
Antonio Trujillo

[OOC: This should make things interesting. Also, I could not find enough information on Mexico's government at this time period so I am making it turn into a dictator in rising power. Nice name ehh?]

OOC: Just giving it a test run... so go easy on a noob :)

IC:

TO : FURHEUR ADOLPH HITLER OF GERMANY:
FROM : PRIME MINISTER PER HANSSON OF SWEDEN

It has not gone unnoticed in Sweden the recent aggressive actions taken by Germany against her neighbours. While not condoning such actions, the Swedish government has no quarrel with the German people, and wish to remain neutral in this conflict. To that end, we recognize that Sweden is Germany's main source of iron (OOC:Sweden provided 50% of Germany's iron during WWII) and that it is in the best interests of Germany to keep access to that iron open. Therefore, Sweden proposes that in exchange for a non-aggression pact between our two peoples, we will agree to maintain open trade with Germany and offer Germany first dibs on Iron we have to trade. We eagerly await your reply.

Per Hansson, PM of Sweden

TROOPS:
Army - Currently, Sweden has 300,000 men mobilized, mostly conscripts, and a Home Guard operates on a local level and is not tallied into that total. Note that 99.5% of Sweden's males have undergone at least some combat training. (OOC:All factual, but breakdown unknown, will look later but could use help.)


Air Force - "...but regarding the Air Force, the air territory of Sweden, stretching 1572 km (975 miles) from north to south and 499 km (310 miles) from east to west, was to be defended by means of a total force of 40 medium bombers (mainly Junkers Ju86s), 30 light bombers (mainly Hawker Harts), 50 fighters (mainly Gloster Gladiators), 50 reconnaissance planes (mainly Fokker C.V.E.s) and 10 torpedo planes – making a total of 180 aircraft."

Navy - EDIT : http://www.battleships-cruisers.co.uk/swedish_navy.htm
Found Navy info from that website. I just discount the ships not yet built.
Here are the numbers -
BB - 6
BB refit as carrier - 1
CC - 8
DD - 4
SS - 1


Troops placement - (OOC: unknown, i'm making this up, but it should be okay)
50,000 army troops stationed around Stockholm
50,000 army troops stationed on Finnish Border (not on a hostile standing)
50,000 army troops stationed on North sea coast from Norweigan border to Malmo
50,000 army troops stationed along the rest of the seashore, centered around Kristianstad, Kalmar, Gavle, Harnosand and Umea
100,000 army troops stationed along Norweigan border (wary, but not hostile)

Air Force stationed around Stockholm for now

Navy docked at Stockholm - BB - 2; BB/AC refit - 1; CC - 3; DD - 2; SS - 1

Visby - BB - 2; CC - 3; DD - 1

and Kristianstad - BB - 2; CC - 2; DD - 1

EDIT : Sweden begins a training program for its mostly conscript army, intent on bringing them up to acceptable fighting standards. This program will cost 14 Million Kronas (2.5 Mil US) and take 3 RL days to complete.

OOC: That post is perfectly acceptable to me, welcome to the show!

Truitt - I'll send a reply later.

To: General Smuts, Praetoria
From: Il Duce Mussolini, Rome

The streets of Italy are rejoicing at this moment, for they now know that their Afrikaaner friends are no longer being oppressed by the British Empire and her thirst for power!! We agree to your Non-Agression Pact, but wonder if you would be willing to take it further and join the Axis alliance of nations? Please consider this proposal. The Italian people are very happy and would now like to help you secure power. If you wish, we can supply you with a small detatchment to help crush any opposition to new Boer Republic of South Africa.

Regards,
Il Duce Benito Mussolini

Field Marshal Ugo Cavallero sat in the War Room, along with other impotant Italian Military officials. They were wondering about the situation in Africa, and the Allied threat to Italy and Sicily. And lastly, they were thinking about power.

"We must strike them were they are weak!" declared the Field Marshal. "A major problem posed to us is that any nation deemed "neutral" could side with the Allies at once!"

A murmur of agreement could be heard from the assembled.

"Therefore," said the Field Marshal, " I propose we not only defend ourselves against the local Allied threat, but also attack weaker countries that call themselves "neutral", for in this war, no-one is neutral!!"

A cheer went up from the assembled officers. They then went on to discuss the plan of attack.

"The first target shall be Greece...." the Field Marshal began.

OOC: That's all for now. I'll continue this afternoon.

The Battleships HMS Reknown, Valiant, Ramilles and Barham, as well as the carrier Ark Royal, cruisers and escort vessels, have been ordered to execute a complete naval blockade of South Africa, force General Smuts to resign and South Africa to rejoin the Commonwealth. This order has been given due to South Africa's blatant violation of commonwealth law. Its seccession was not done with any consultation and instead reeks strongly of an attempt to aid our declared enemies. As such, the government of South Africa will be considered a foe.

No goods whatsoever get in or out of South Africa. Any ships violating the blockade will be boarded and their cargoes seized regardless of nationality. South African merchant vessels in British ports have been seized.

IC: Most troops have now moved into position around Finlandian forces attack beggins, now.

Almost 250000 troops, plus panes, tanks, and artillery are engaging the small enemy force of 750000. Enemy is surrounded. Its supply route is already cut off, anti-aircraft weapons are put in place to make sure that supplies won't come by air.
Fighting broke out with Finish forces.

The rest of the division, 290000 sent to defend against Finland just went around Finish positions and into Finland, first defenses were wiped out by planes and artillery. Troops, after establishing HQ started going deeper into Finish land.

i quit dumbfuck and that is n00b GOD MODDING YOU CANT CONQUER I NATION WITHOUT TAKING CASULITIES MORON

i quit dumbfuck and that is n00b GOD MODDING YOU CANT CONQUER I NATION WITHOUT TAKING CASULITIES MORON

OOC : Dude! WTF! It's a game man!
And didn't you quit like last page?
One of the guys here is RPing with a kid, so watch the language!

Per Hansson stared out a large, ornate window on the darkened, peaceful streets of Stockholm. God, how he loved this land, this country, the Great Lion of the North! This land had not seen war in over one hundred years, and he was damned if it would happen on his watch. It was not easy, this he knew well. Turning to a map of Europe spread on a large antique table the old dilemma came to mind. Sweden commanded a strategic position between the major players of this twisted game. With Germany’s might to the south, the vast Soviet Union to the east, and the British Empire to the west, Sweden was right in the middle. Scandinavia was not safe, this was painfully obvious. Finland and Russia fight viciously, while Norway fears a German invasion. Sweden, he realized, must be wary of both. “Herr Hitler, Comrade Stalin, check yourselves.” Hansson muttered, “Do not come to Sweden uninvited. I swear that if invaded, Sweden will NOT go quietly.” His soliloquy was interrupted by a knock at the door.
“Enter.” Hansson ordered gruffly.
A man in his mid-twenties entered, carrying several papers. “Sir, several high priority telegrams arrived for you.” He said.
“Thank you, just leave them with me.” Hansson responded. The first was from the War department. It was just a confirmation that the troop training program was well underway, nearly one-third done. The men were responding well, morale was high.
The second was far more alarming. It appears that several men were detained along the Swedish/Finnish border, trying to smuggle in Russian weapons. Upon questioning, the men revealed that the weapons were being funneled to Communist and Socialist groups across Sweden. The numbers these groups claim, their leaders, their locations and their armament is currently unknown. All that is known is at this time are the drop-off points for the weapons. Sting operations were already planned. The danger was clear to the Prime Minister. “How could this have happened?” He whispered in shock and disbelief. There have always been Communists, but revolutionaries?!? He practically lunged for the phone. The Home Guard was to be notified, divisions must be on the streets immediately! The police, oh the police must root out these traitors!
After a lengthy debate with his advisors over the phone, a decision was reached. Some of the Home Guard would be mobilized, but quietly, to avoid general panic. They would work with the police to investigate this situation.
The Prime Minister poured himself a drink. He needed it. “God, defend Sweden, defend her…”

i quit dumbfuck and that is n00b GOD MODDING YOU CANT CONQUER I NATION WITHOUT TAKING CASULITIES MORON

Just shut the fuck up kid, you already left. Also i haven't taken you out, but guess your thinking process isn't fast enough for understanding that. Learn to read, faggot. I haven't conquered you yet, i am simply advancing, plus we agreed that non of the previous post counted, only the recent ones, one you quoted is one of the older ones. Anyways since you ignore me, how about you get your head out of your ass and just ignore me?

i quit dumbfuck and that is n00b GOD MODDING YOU CANT CONQUER I NATION WITHOUT TAKING CASULITIES MORON

OOC: If you swear in front of minors in my thread one more time, I will report you to the mods for inappropriate behavior and flaming. I'm officially ejecting you from this thread, any IC posts made by you in this thread will be ignored. Have a nice day.

As king Haakon sat down in Statsråd at the royal palace in Oslo with the government, he had a small smirk on his face. Finally, he was going to show Nygaardsvold (Norwegian Prime Minister) that Norway needed to rearm.

Haakon VII: Jeg erklærer herved Statsrådet for åpnet. Første punkt på agendaen er spørsmålet om opprustning. Jeg overlater ordet til Kommanderende General Laake.

http://lofotenkrigmus.no/bild/045soldattt.jpg
General Laake

Laake: Deres Majestet, mine herrer. Dagens militære situasjon er som følger: 5 divisjoner står delvis klare, 1 står kampklar. Den kampklare divisjonen, 6. divisjon, er som dere alle vet i nord, hvor den står klar til å slå tilbake eventuelle sovjetske framstøt. De andre, 1. til 5. divisjon, er bemannet av reservister, inne på nøytralitetsvakt. Andre kampklare enheter i Hæren er HM Kongens Garde og grensevaktene.
Marinen er så godt som kampklar, eller så kampklar som den kam bli. Ikke ett eneste større skip har blitt kjøpt inn eller bygget siden 1905, når vi fikk Norge og Eidsvoll, som for øvrig ligger i beredskap i Narvik. Kystartilleriet er klare, og minefeltene, kannonene og torpedoene deres kan bli brukt når tid som helst. Hærens og Marinens luftvåpen er en spøk. De gamle biplanene er ikke noen match mot verken britenes Spitfire eller tyskernes Messersmicht. Jeg anbefaler regjeringen å oppgradere den Norske forsvar, kjøpe inn nyere våpen som stridsvogner til å erstatte dagens hester, nyere rifler til å erstatte de gamle Kragene, og å føre Hærens og Marinens Luftvåpen sammen som en kjempende enhet: det Kongelige Norske Luftvåpen. Vi har sett rundt om i verden at flyvemaskinene er mektige våpen, og jeg konkluderer med at dagens ordning er ikke kampdyktig i noen annen stand enn på papiret. Jeg anbefaler også at alle militære styrker gjennomgår et treningsprogram for å styrke sine militære ferdigheter.

Nygaardsvold: Jeg forstår. Og hvor foreslår du at vi får tak i pengene fra da General?

Haakon VII: Allerede tatt hånd om. Jeg fikk president Hambros godkjennelse i går.

TRANSLATION FROM NORWEGIAN:

Haakon VII: I hereby declare the Statsråd for open. The first point on the agenda is the question of rearmament. I give the word to Commanding General Laake.

Laake: Your Majesty, gentlemen. Todays military situation is as follows: 5 divisions are partially ready, 1 is combat ready. The combat ready division, the 6th division, is as you all know in the north, where it stands ready to stop any Soviet advances. The others, the 1th to 5th division, are manned by reservists who are serving the neutrality watch. Other combat ready units in teh Army is His Majesty the Kings Guards and the border rangers.
The Navy is as good as combat ready, or as combat ready as it can be. Not one large ship has been purchsed or built since 1905, when we got Norge and Eivsvoll (two ancient battlecruisers), that lies in readiness in Narvik by the way. The costal fortresses are ready, and their minefields, cannons and torpedoes are ready for deployment whenever they are needed. . The Armys and the Navys Air Forces is a joke. The old biplanes are no match against the British and their Spitfire, or the Germans and their Messersmichts. I recommend for the government to update the Norwegian defence, purchase in newer arms like tanks to replace the current horses, newer rifles to replace our old Krags, and to bring the Armys and the Navys Air Forces into one fighting unit: the Royal Norwegian Air Force. We've seen all around the world that aeroplanes are powerful weapons, and I conclude that todays arrangement aren't combat worthy in other places then the paper. I also reccomend that all military forces go trough a training program in order to hone their military skills.

Nygaardsvold: I see. And where do you propose that we get the funds from, or the approval of the Storting?

Haakon VII:All ready taken care of. I got President Hambros approval yesterday.

The Prime Minister looked confused. Had the king really gone behind his back? Allied himself with not only the president of the Storting (parliament), but the Generals as well? What should he do?

[QUOTE=Tenarius]OOC: If you swear in front of minors in my thread one more time, I will report you to the mods for inappropriate behavior and flaming. I'm officially ejecting you from this thread, any IC posts made by you in this thread will be ignored. Have a nice day.[/

see if i care im a minor technically (under 18) the admins
never do anything away :rolleyes: try reading i left like 2 days ago im gonna respond when i see my name mentioned, and i can still read it!

British military policy throughout the thirties was one of running down the army. colonial occupations were often left to dominion rtroops, and these troop (Australian, New Zealand, South African and Canadian) had no British officers or men. There were often only a few thousand, sometimes only a few hundred tropps in colonial areas, especially a civilly quiet area lkike Somaliland was at the time. The vast bulk of the British army was deployed in Egypt and at home. And I am certainly not stupid enough to try taking Egypt on my own. In the two areas I am trying to take my troops are already on the ground by negotiation and outnumber British troops. I f the British fight back )as they doubtless will) then I will rp that fight. Thats why were all doing thi#s isn't it?

[QUOTE=New Scott-Land]OOC: Next off, Thanks for forgetting to try anything with 'French Somaliland' ;) , or more, the Afar's and the Issas.[QUOTE]

I certainly didn't forget, I just didn't want to provoke you.

[QUOTE=New Scott-Land] OOc; And... most of the Colonies were mostly independant already, as already stated... [QUOTE]

South Africa, Australia, New Zealand, Canada and Ireland were noy colonies as such, they were Dominions. Internally they were totally independent with their own armed forces, but technically they had to follow British foriegn and war policy. The only country that didn't at this time was Ireland.

[QUOTE=New Scott-Land]OOC; As well. I can't see raising 500,000 men out of nothing, conscription or not. The tribes would've inter-fought, there wasn't that many Brit's (I don't think) There, who largely wouldn't have fought anyways. Not for the Boer's anyways...[QUOTE]

There were nearly 5 million white settlers in South Africa in 1938, of whom approx 80% were of Afrikaans or Boer descent. I don't think that 10% of that figure is too high for an army, considering the numbers mobilised by the European nations.

[QUOTE=New Scott-Land]OOc; Finally, without the support of any vast majority of the White Men, (I presume you are a white man), IE: South Africa, British Lands, the Boer's wouldn't be able to take over like that.., and the White men wouldn't have accepted an African take-over very well... Not to mention if a Tribal leader did it, then only his tribe really would probably support him. So.. I'm just curious... :confused: as to how this all worked out...[QUOTE]

aHH i SEE. mY APOLOGIES. The term Boer is an old fashioned word for Afrikaaners, which is what General Smuts was. By instigating the Boer republic, I have giveen South Africa to the white Afrikaaners. There has certainly not been a native takover, which at the time would have been totally unrealistic. I agree that the chain of events is unlikely, but its not impossible. I thought that was the ideas of this RP, to see if we could take history in another direction

ps- I don't know if you are trying to insinuate something with your "I presume you are a white man" comment, but please remember that I am role playing here. Any views expressed here certainly don't represent my real views. My apologies if you didn't mean anything, but remember that this is a RP.

OOC: First apologies for being inactive for a bit.
First, no no, I'm not insinuating anything. Or meaning to with the white man thing. :headbang: Sorry, my mistake. lol, I just meant I presumed that the character or whomever you were playing was white, as opposed to being African.

Ah, mmmk. Sorry, first off, I thought you just had said, Bwahahah it's all mine! and closed the book. :headbang: Again, my mistake. *laughs* Sorry. And ah... Interesting... Hmmm. :p Well I'll probably end up fighting anyways, because I'll have to support Britian since I need them in Europe :headbang:

I'm not so sure about that war policy thing however. I know that Canada waited a week before we declared war. It was a optional choice, I think, but... at the time we were still tight with Britain.

5 Million>!> :eek: Where was that. lol, Sorry, I didn't even know that. :headbang: Everything we've learned in my Social Classes has always said how under populated the white was compared to the Native population.

I gotta go, sorry again, :headbang: Should be more active again soon. Sorry.

Secret IC:

----Transmission May, 1940----

To: British High Command

Greetings,

Due to the recent aggression by the fascist nation of Italy, the nation of Belgium has reconsidered our policy of neutrality, in Africa. Although weak, Italy and her allies do present a major threat to the Belgian Congo and we must react.

Therefore, our nation is considering to aid your forces in the defeat of Italy and her African allies. Over the next two months, Belgian officers will be given the task of conscripting and training 150,000 African Troops. Once finished, our forces will number near 200,000 troops (including the BRCA). We believe this number of soldiers would be sufficient to subdue the Italian force and bring about victory.

For our aid against the Italian foe, we ask you to support us in Continental Europe. The forces of many nations are massing and Belgium seems to be right in the center of the conflict. Furthermore, Belgium lacks the industrial capability to produce enough armored forces to defeat a possible aggressor.

Thus, we would like you to aid us in our mechanized production, by using your own factories to produce Belgian armored equipment. The Equipment would be shipped from British Ports into Antwerp, where it would be unloaded and distributed.

I hope you seriously consider this offer, for the future of the British Empire is at stake.

Lieutenant-General Baron de Ceuninck
Ministre de la Guerre
Le Royaume de Belgique

----Transmission Ended----


Regular IC:

----Transmission May, 1940----

To: Il Duce Mussolini


Greetings,

Due to your recent aggresion within the continent of Africa, the Kingdom of Belgium has begun to regard your nation with suspicion. As you may know, the Belgian Congo is right in the middle of this conflict and would be a tempting target for any conqueror.

However, I can assure you that if attacked, the Belgian Government will not hesitate to enter this unfortunate war.

I hope you consider this following statement, so as not to provoke more forces to join in the fighting.

King Leopold III
Lord and Protector of the People
Le Royaume de Belgique

----Transmission Ended----

Bob
Unites
Millions
Permanently

To: King Leopold III, Brussels
From: Il Duce Mussolini, Rome

We have no intention whatsoever to violate Belgian ground. We are at war with the British and the French, and we do not wish to cause conflict with the Belgian people. You may build up defences if you wish, and we certainly understand your precaution, but do not fel anxious for the safety of your people in the Congo.

see if i care im a minor technically (under 18)

Yes, your RPing and grammar would suggest you were about five.

Because of recent action by the British to blockade BRSA ports, the Italian Navy is sending a small fleet to attack the blockading vessels. The fleet will consist of:

2 Zara-class heavy cruisers
3 Trento-class heavy cruisers
3 Aosta-class light cruisers
1 Giulio Cesare-class battleship

Also, an aerial force will attack the British ships. It will consist of
Piaggio P.108 Bombers escorted by Fiat G.50 Freccia Fighters.
The force will launch from an Aquila-class aircraft carrier located in close proximity.

In the Italian War Room, the planning of the invasion of Greece was nearly finished. The plan so far was this:

A fleet of transports and landing craft would, under escort, land at the south-west of Greece, near the Pelopennese. They would capture the area with ease, as the Greek forces are inefficient and would not have guessed an invasion previously. This group would then move on, the landing area to be secured by a second group, who, in turn, would move on as well, to be replaced etc.

Meanwhile, paratroopers would land around the Pelopennese, to support the Amphibious Assault. Vehicles could land on the coast, until a sufficient force was prepared. Then, over a course of time, the force would sweep through Greece, tackling the now-alerted but inefficient Greek forces.

The BRSA thanks the Italian government for it's naval support. We extend port and refueling facilities to her newly formed south atlantic squadron.

We also thank her for offer of Axis membership. We are considering the idea and will make a decision soon.

Five divisions are completly trained and ready for action. ANZAC command has decided that 3 divisions will be sent to Kenya to stop further advance of Italy, the other two will rotate at home between mainland Australia and Australian New Guinea. Also 2 recently completed armoured divisions and 7500 Paratroopers will be sent to Kenya. The total of the Anzac forces in Kenya will be: 8 infantry divisions, 2 armoured divisions, 1 motor-rifle division and a paratrooper division. 3 new divisions will be trained for Australian home defence and 2 for New Zealand home defence. If the paratrooperdivision is usefull, the training of 2 new paradivisions will start. ANZAC command has also decided to send the cruisers Australia, Adelaide, Hobart and the destroyers Napier, Nestor and Nizam to join the blocade of The BRSA. The destroyer Nizam and the frigates Barcoo and Barwon will be sent to the meditaranian area. ANZAC command will expend its fleet with 3 new destroyers, 5 new frigates and 1 battleship. The building time will take about 6 months with an exalerated production. The carriers: Melbourne and Auckland will be ready in 2 months from now. Scientists have been able to navalize the Hurricane fighter. The fighter has now carrier capabilities and has an extended range of 1600 km.

To: The Governments of Australia and New Zealand
From: Il Duce Mussolini, Rome

Do not engage our forces. We have no fight with you. If you engage us we will be forced to take action. Do not follow your current course of action.

To: The Governments of Australia and New Zealand
From: Il Duce Mussolini, Rome

Do not engage our forces. We have no fight with you. If you engage us we will be forced to take action. Do not follow your current course of action.

To: Il Duce Mussolini
From: ANZAC command

We regret to say, that because we are bound to Great Britain by the commonwealth, we must take actions against you. If possible, we will not engage you.

ps. we like you're food though :D

OOC: I don't feel really involved here. Who is fighting who?

it seems that Britain, France and Australia/New Zealand on one side are fighting Italy and South Africa on the other.

General Smuts sat at the head of his new caninet and looked round. The group of Afrikaans farmers and businessmen had unanimously declared him as President of the provisional government of the new republic. He was to hear statements from the ministers for agriculture, trade & industry, war, the interior and foriegn affairs.

Agriculture Statement
Our food situation is very good. Our agricultural system is geared to supplying British needs, and so the British are only hurting themselves with the blockade. We have good stocks of wheat, fruit, vegetables and even wine and sherry. Food supplies will not be a problem for the foreseeable future.

Trade & Industry Statement
Unless the blockade is broken we cannot continue economically. We have an abundence of raw materials such as coal, diamonds, gold, aluminium ore and even small deposits of uranium, but with no way to export them or to utilise them they are useless. Our economy is overwhelmingly based on agriculture and mining - we have very few factories, and no way of producing military grade aircraft or ships.

War Statement

Armed Forces Expansion - We have an abundence of volunteers and no equipment. As already stated by the Industry Minister, we currently have no way of importing or building new military equipment.

Current Armed Forces - Half of our infantry and nearly all of our armour are currently on foriegn deployments and the rest of our troops are patrolling the interior keeping the peace. We have practically no air or naval forces to speak of. In addition, our forces are armed with British equipmentr. I assume we no longer have access to new British equipment? Then when we expand our current forces will have to be re-armed as well.

Somaliland - Our forces in British Somaliland now outnumber the British as ANZAC forces have withdrawn to Kenya. There has been no aggression by British forces yet, but we have recieved no surrender from them. French forces in neighbouring French Somaliland are also mobilising and recruiting amongst the local tribes. They have also seized South African shipping.

Palestine - We have recieved no word from General Van der Scholl as yet. We fear the worst for the 4th Division.

Interior Statement
The new republic has been greeted enthusiastically by most of the white population. The native population has mostly been indifferent. British officials were mostly co-operative, and are now under house arrest awaiting re-patriation. However, the few military personnel in South Africa were less than co-operative. Cut off from their commanders in London, most commited random acts of sabotage before disappearing. It is thought some headed for the coast, some headed for the border an d crossed to other British colonies, and that some are being housed by pro-colonial civilians. The hundred or so members of the RAF stationed here destroyed their few aircraft and airfields, and the gunboat squadron in Cape Town destroyed the harbour before leaving to join blockade forces (supposition - any objections to this, Kanabia, and I will remove this section of the post). This will take several months to repair.

Foriegn Affairs Statement
Italy - Mussolinis governement has agreed to a Non-Aggression Pact and has gone further by inviting us to join the Axis. He has also sent naval units to try and break the British blockade.
Japan - We have asked for support from the IJN to break the British blockade but have yet to recieve a reply.
Commonwealth - Our plea for action has gone on deaf ears. The only dominion to answer was Australia, and they intend to remain loyal to the british.
Britain - We have recieved no direct contact from Churchill, just the announcement of the blockade and an order to rejoin the commonwealth.

Smuts leaned back and closed his eyes, as had become his habit when thinking deeply. So many questions and so few answers. What to do, what to do...

Oslo, May 12th 1940

Dear sir,
The Kingdom of Norway need to modernize it's arsenals, and we desperately need fighter aeroplanes, rifles and tanks. We will pay you quite a bit of money. (We have plenty, thanks to our merchant fleet (which is the third largest in the world), who are supplying you with oil and other goods).
We wish to buy Spitfire fighters, your best rifles, and whatever tanks you can supply.

We look forward to a positive response.

Sincerely,
Foreign Minister Halvdan Koth

We ask all nations of the world to save us from British imperialism. We have committed no violent acts against Britain, but merely asserted ourselves as an independent people and nation. We ask all nations to recognize our new nation and exchange diplomats. In additon we ask all nations of the world to help us in breaking the British blockade of our nation. This blockade is unjust and unfair and an insult to all peace and freedom loving nations. In return we offer the freedom of our ports and negotiable trading options on our diamond and gold mining industries.

OOC; All following messages are relayed secretly

To; Il Duce Mussolini, Rome
From; President Smuts, Praetoria

We thank you for the support in trying to break the British blockade. We ask you for the followiing;
- To invade French Somaliland and remove this threat to our forces in Somaliland. We have no claim on this territory.
- To send one Inf Div from Abbyssinia into British Somaliland to support our forces there against the British. They should withdraw when hostilities have ceased.
- To continue to try to break the British blockade.
- To put diplomatic pressure on Japan and Germany (and the rest of the world) to assist in lifting or breaking the blockade.

In return, we will agree to joining the Axis, and give you first refusal on Uranium mining rights in the BRSA.



To; Prime Minister Mitsumama, Tokyo
From; President Smuts, Praetoria

We repeat our request for help from your navy in lifting and/or breaking the British naval blockade of our nation. In addition we also request to buy infantry weapons, combat aircraft and naval destroyers. We intend to pay in diamonds and gold. In return the BRSA agrees to become a part of the Axis of nations and to help you in your own efforts in Asia.


To; der Fuhrer, Adolf Hitler, Berlin
From; President Smuts, Praetoria

We request help from your navy in lifting and/or breaking the British naval blockade of our nation. In addition we also request to buy infantry weapons, combat aircraft and naval destroyers. We intend to pay in diamonds and gold. In return the BRSA agrees to become a part of the Axis of nations and to help you in your own efforts in Europe.


To; Chairman Stalin, Moscow
From; President Smuts, Praetoria

Greetings from the newly formed Boer Republic of South Africa. We have recently thrown off the imperialistic shackles of colonial rule and ask for you to officially recognize our new nation and exchange diplomats. We also ask for your diplomatic and/or military help in breaking/lifting the British blockade of our nation, and building our military. We can pay in gold, diamonds and food.


To; President Roosevelt, Washington DC
From; President Smuts, Praetoria

Greetings from the newly formed Boer Republic of South Africa. We have recently asserted our right to self determination and ask for you to officially recognise our nation and exchange diplomats. We also ask for your diplomatic and/or military help in breaking/lifting the British blockade of our nation, and building our military. We can pay in gold, diamonds and food.


To; Winston Churchill, London
From; President Smuts, Praetoria

We would ask you to lift your blockade. we have made no violent moves towards you and have merely asserted our right to self determination. Be warned that we have no fear of hostilities with you, or oif using the British officials we currently have jailed as hostages.


To; Premier Reynaud, Paris
From; President Smuts, Praetoria

We urge you to reconsider your recent actions against us in east Africa. We have no quarrel with the French or any ambitions against French held territory, and urge you to cease any hostile moves towards our new natiion. we would be quite happy to exchange diplomats with you and begin open negotiations if you officially recognise our new nation.


To; King Leopold, Brussels
From; President Smuts, Praetoria

We urge you to reconsider your recent actions. From former information we understood you were leaning towards the axis, being pro-German. Now we understand you are leaning towards the French and British, being anti Italian. We follow the Italians in insisting that your colonies are under no threat. we would also say that the French and British are not interested in your welfare, only in their own colonial ambitions. we urge you to follow in your previous pro-Axis leanings.

OOC: Just giving it a test run... so go easy on a noob :)

IC:

TO : FURHEUR ADOLPH HITLER OF GERMANY:
FROM : PRIME MINISTER PER HANSSON OF SWEDEN

It has not gone unnoticed in Sweden the recent aggressive actions taken by Germany against her neighbours. While not condoning such actions, the Swedish government has no quarrel with the German people, and wish to remain neutral in this conflict. To that end, we recognize that Sweden is Germany's main source of iron (OOC:Sweden provided 50% of Germany's iron during WWII) and that it is in the best interests of Germany to keep access to that iron open. Therefore, Sweden proposes that in exchange for a non-aggression pact between our two peoples, we will agree to maintain open trade with Germany and offer Germany first dibs on Iron we have to trade. We eagerly await your reply.

Per Hansson, PM of Sweden



To PM Per Hansson
From Adolph Hitler

We will accept a non-aggression with Sweden. I have no plans to harm your people.

To; der Fuhrer, Adolf Hitler, Berlin
From; President Smuts, Praetoria

We request help from your navy in lifting and/or breaking the British naval blockade of our nation. In addition we also request to buy infantry weapons, combat aircraft and naval destroyers. We intend to pay in diamonds and gold. In return the BRSA agrees to become a part of the Axis of nations and to help you in your own efforts in Europe.

To: President Smuts
From: Adolf Hitler

It would be hard to get ships through the Mediterranean Sea and British Colonial waters to get to the Boer's Republic of Soth Africa. It would also be hard to transport weapons, aircraft(which we need dearly), and destroyers(which we also need in the fight against Britain). We can offer a place in the Axis.

"Message from Stalin to leaders of Britain, Austria and France"

It seems that you got yourself involved in the conflict with Italy and her allies. Well we offer help, we will let you move your troops through our land and open second front in Italy. We also will help with troops. In return you will give up some colonies in Africa and Asia, and become our trading partners. I await for yor reply.

Former President Antonio Trujillo had just signned a bill that got rid of the old democracy-based government with its parliment and had formed a complete Father Knows Best State.

His new possition, Fuhrer Trujillo, gave him complete power. His pride was unranked due to his chants of patriotic messages and promises to bring The 'Democratic Republic' of Mexico into a world power.

"Sir, plots of land have already been made for factories and such. Navy bases for the Pacific Fleet are underway as we speack, and plans on the Atlantic Expansion is still underway. We have yet to come by a reply from the Axis Force, including Japan." Said Trujillo's lead advisor, Enzo Sanchez. "Por favor, me amigo Enzo." Said Trujillo in spanish. It translated into Thank you, my friend Enzo.


News Update
The Republican Guard started to move along the coasts and the border with Arizona and Texas. Few trucks armed with high walls and automatic rifles resembled premitive tanks as they rushed at 15 mph all over the baren land that had been placed into a buzz.

The Offencive Pacific Fleet had entered the most northern port that was close to the Californian border. The Offencive Pacific Fleet had just deployed and was heading to a base near the Texas border.

Construction of new naval ships and better armored trucks had begun. Many forgien rifles, russian and european mainly, were purchased from the black market by a Federal Investigation Agency (FIA) operative. Enough to arm a thirtyith of the Republican Army was already bought, and the rest of the funds put away were for the massive expansion and diplomacy (along with purchases to nations that need hard currency).

"Message from Stalin to leaders of Britain, Austria and France"

It seems that you got yourself involved in the conflict with Italy and her allies. Well we offer help, we will let you move your troops through our land and open second front in Italy. We also will help with troops. In return you will give up some colonies in Africa and Asia, and become our trading partners. I await for yor reply.


OOC: Austria is part of Germany. Czechoslovakia is German. Romania is its own country. How would the troops make it to Italy by moving through Russian territory?

OCC: They would build a massive bridge of conscripts over Rumania, Cezechloslokia and Austria. Then, using this giant bridge, they would pour even more conscripts into Italy. Its quite simple really. :p

Botswana
Unwillingly
Mates
Porpoises

OOC: I think Russia meant Australia ;)
Mexico is.....going to invade the USA... :confused: This is going to be another Finland. :headbang:

Premier Reynaud rubbed his forehead, trying to push the wrinkles out of it, but failing miserably. On one side he had a report from French Somaliland, telling him about the situation. Increased Italian bombing, civilian conscription and then taking the navy were all efficient moves on the garrison's part, but he also wanted reinforcements.

On his other side, he had a letter from the "New" South Africa what-ja-ma-callit. "Open Negotiations" and all that, it was certainly tempting. It would certainly buy some time, if anything else. On the other hand, he also felt obliged to the British, whom were supporting him in Europe. Well.. Perhaps he could stall, and see what the British did, and then decide where he would stand. No sense in making a fuss if the British weren't going too. But he did need them on the mainland.

For now,
To: General Smuts
At this time, I am instructing the garrison commander to take no offensive action against your uprising. However at this time I do not feel it appropriate to open up diplomatic channels.
-Premier Reynaud

With that done, he sent a questioning letter off to the British,

To: British Parliament
We would like to know your position on the African situation. We would recommend ensuring against weapon movement out of the Mediterranean, as you have control over both exits. As well, we may be moving troops through to Syria and Africa, we would appreciate any escort/protection you could provide.
-Premier Reynaud

Finally, he sent orders to Marsielle, (sp), instructing 50,000 troops to be loaded onto boats, and set out in a convey. 25,000 were to be unloaded at Syria, with the rest continuing onwards towards Africa, namely French Somaliland to reinforce against Italian Invasion.

Next up,
"Message from Stalin to leaders of Britain, Austria and France"

It seems that you got yourself involved in the conflict with Italy and her allies. Well we offer help, we will let you move your troops through our land and open second front in Italy. We also will help with troops. In return you will give up some colonies in Africa and Asia, and become our trading partners. I await for yor reply.

To: Premier Stalin,
Although we cannot agree to this firmly, not yet without consulting our allies, however, tentatively we are interested in your offer. Specifically, which colonies are you referring too? The stance of France at this time is that you could tentatively have Manchuko as well as part of the Italian colonies in Africa. Please reply with more specific terms, as well, we shall attempt to get in touch with our allies on this matter.
-Premier Reynaud.

News reports from the middle east speak much about the citizens of these desert lands speaking violently about outsiders needing to be removed from their homelands. Even to obviously involved officers of the government these remarks are spoken aloud like they have not the backbone to defend themselves with.

It is many of the peoples opinion that foreign rulers involvement in the Germanic expansion in Europe has their attention drawn to more important areas and that they are not important enough to serve any use. Others believe that they are given a open window that they need only climb out of to claim these “Sacred” lands as their own. Though the influential leaders of these ancient lands say that these recent developments are due to the lack of support that their governments are receiving, and that this is a method for the people to speak out and receive better fare from the businesses that are across the Mediterranean sea.

Much speculation is abound, and people still seem interested in allowing non-natives within their borders. But the end result of this outcry has no obvious end to it yet. More reports will be sent as available to the presses of noble Europe as information becomes available.

Diplomatic Message to South Africa:

We support your fight for freedom at this time, but cannot yet take action against the British. Our fleet is mobilizing, and will consider an attack on the blockade, but until we are in a better situation to fight multiple fronts, we will remain neutral.

Japan may be able to provide you with a decent air force and navy to fight with, depending on how our own needs put pressure on us. We will have somebody run up some numbers on ships available for export; chances are you will recieve a few older models, but any Navy is better than none.


Diplomatic Message to Mexico:

At this time we have no intention of entering hostilities with the United States. There is still time to conquer East Asia and Europe and gather the materials we need to face the American Giant. We would however, be interested in purchasing Oil from Mexico if possible, depending on how much you have available for export. In return we would be willing to produce ships for you to sell.

To: Der Fuhrer Hitler, Berlin, & Prime Minister Mitsumama, Tokyo
From: Il Duce Mussolini, Rome

Fellow Axis nations, my country has recieved a plea for help. The fledgeling BRSA has come under immense pressure from British forces. I request that the Axis alliance send aid to the BRSA, attempt to break the British blockade on them and send support to the regions they are invading. The BRSA has offered that, in return for support, they will join the Axis and provide us with Uranium. This, as you can tell, is a tempting offer. I request your oppinions on this matter.

(Signed)
Il Duce Benito Mussolini

Further Telegram forwarded to Germany

We are now involved in a direct conflict with the British and the French. We have not suffered major loss as of yet, but the combined Allied armies will soon overwhelm us. We request that you advance into Western Europe, to apply pressure on the French which will, in turn, pressure the British. The French cannot face a war on three fronts (South France, Middle France and the African Colonies) and will surely be beaten. We can then advance and dominate Europe.

(Signed)
Il Duce Benito Mussolini

To: General Smuts, Praetoria
From: Il Duce Mussolini, Rome

We are happy that you have chosen this path. We will continue our attempt on breaking the British blockade. We shall also supply you with 2 infantry regiments and 1 armoured regiment for aid in occupying British Somaliland. We shall assault French Somaliland, however it will not be immediate, as we haven't the required troops at the moment. We will prepare our forces for the attack now, and then later initiate the actual assault.

Belgian Military News- BMN

As the month of May continues forward, Belgian factories begin to pour out armored equipment, producing almost 65 armored vehicles this week. Belgian High Command has been pleased by this increase in production and believes that Belgium should be able to produce almost 220 armored vehicles this month alone. Even as we speak, factories are going up around Liege, Brussels and Antwerp, as the demand for War Material increases.

Meanwhile in the depths of Africa, the famous Belgian Royal Colonial Army or BRCA has been conscripting and training thousands of African recruits on the finer aspects of African Warfare. BRCA Commanders say that a trained force of 200,000 soldiers will be ready for combat action, within 6 weeks.

This feverish pitch has been further motivated by the increasing tensions of war in Europe and Africa. " Belgium must be ready for warm this time. We cannot undergo the same disaster again that occurred in 1914." says General Allard Blasé, commander of Belgian forces at Ypres. Let us hope, he's right.

In the aviation field, Belgium now reports it has 11 air groups, consisting of 73 squadrons of aircraft. These squadrons are mostly made of of Golster Gladiators, Hawker Hurricanes and even Brewster Buffaloes. It seems as if Belgium Military has finally taken the initiative, after years of neglect by politicians.

In other news...
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Secret IC:

---Transmission May 1940---

To: Il Duce Mussolini and
General Smuts


Greetings,

As of the Moment, the Belgian Government feels that your cause is legitimate. For too long, the British and French have brutally oppressed the native tribes of this land, to further their own selfish agenda. Therefore, once we have properly trained our new recruits, we will deploy them to the area of your choosing.

We hope that your armies achieve victory as soon as possible, so that the lives of many can be liberated from the tyranny of Anglo-French rule.

King Leopold III
Lord and Protector of the People
The Kingdom of Belgium

----Transmission Ended----

Secret IC:



To: King Leopold III
From: Adolf Hitler

The time has now come for a certain part of our non-aggression pact.
The invasion of France will begin. We need to use your lands to help attack the French and surprise them.
I will want to hear your answer.





To: Il Duce Mussolini
From: Adolf Hitler

We will begin the invasion of France to help your country. As for the British blockade, we will send 5 U-Boats to help destroy it.
We cannot spare many U-Boats. We will destroy the French aggression.

Secret IC:



To: King Leopold III
From: Adolf Hitler

The time has now come for a certain part of our non-aggression pact.
The invasion of France will begin. We need to use your lands to help attack the French and surprise them.
I will want to hear your answer.



---Transmission May 1940---

To: German High Command

Greetings,

The Belgian Government will allow the use of Belgium as a
route into France. Furthermore, the Belgian Army will deploy
650,000 troops, along with 350 tanks and 411 other armored
vehicles to Northern France, to aid in your assault.

We will also deploy 20 squadrons of aircraft to run sorties
against Anglo-French forces.

Let us go to victory!

King Leopold III
Lord and Protector of the People
The Kingdom of Belgium

----Transmission Ended----

Communique to France

Because you declared war on Germany in September, 1939 you will now face the conseqeunces.
There is no turning back for your nation now.
The Third Reich will have victory!

To: Premier Stalin,
Although we cannot agree to this firmly, not yet without consulting our allies, however, tentatively we are interested in your offer. Specifically, which colonies are you referring too? The stance of France at this time is that you could tentatively have Manchuko as well as part of the Italian colonies in Africa. Please reply with more specific terms, as well, we shall attempt to get in touch with our allies on this matter.
-Premier Reynaud.

--message from Stalin to premier of UK, Premier Reynaud--

We are interested in Nigeria and perhaps parts of South Africa. We require those lands for few reasons, neither of which i am at liberty to discuss. In return we will open second front on the Northern Border of Italy and help you with defeat of your over enemie's either with troops or supplies. If you agree to our terms we will do our part of the bargain, we await for your reply.

To; der Fuhrer, Adolf Hitler, Berlin
From; President Jan Smuts, Praetoria

We thank you for your acceptance of our nation and the deployment of 5 U-Boats. We do feel, however, disapointed that you will not aid us with weapons. To this decision, we have a proposition for you. We are prepared to build several U-Boat pens in the town of Lamberts Bay, about 150 miles north of Cape Town. This will allow you to extend your U-Boat campaign to the south atlantic and drastically increase the range of your U-Boats. In return for this we would like the following;

- 52 Ju-90 Transport aircraft.
- Parts for 5 years
- A 5 man advisor team from the Luftwaffe for training
- A 10-man advisor team from the Fliegerkorps for parachute and airborne
ops training.
- A 10-man advisor team from the Kriegsmarine to advise on the buidling of
the U-Boats.

The plan is as follows. This group can leave southern Germany and refuel in southern Libya (with the agreement of the Mussolini). They can then land in the northern areas of Southern Rhodesia at scratch airfields currently being prepared by locals and the BRSA militia. Crossing Africa should be quite safe as most of the areas overflown are uninhabited with no combat air coverage. They will be handed over to a mixture of pilots from the newly formed BRSAAF, formed from former RAF-trained pilots, civil pilots and crop duster pilots. Your pilots can return in two of the aircraft (refueled with the last of our aviation fuel) with any extra payment you require in diamonds. We await your response.

Oslo, May 12th 1940

Dear sir,
The Kingdom of Norway need to modernize it's arsenals, and we desperately need fighter aeroplanes, rifles and tanks. We will pay you quite a bit of money. (We have plenty, thanks to our merchant fleet (which is the third largest in the world), who are supplying you with oil and other goods).
We wish to buy Spitfire fighters, your best rifles, and whatever tanks you can supply.

We look forward to a positive response.

Sincerely,
Foreign Minister Halvdan Koth
BUMP!! Come on, whoever that's Britain.

Who is the British PM anyway? Churchhill or Chamberlain (Chaimberlain had to resign because of the defeat in the Norway campaign...)??

To: General Smuts
At this time, I am instructing the garrison commander to take no offensive action against your uprising. However at this time I do not feel it appropriate to open up diplomatic channels.
-Premier Reynaud.

To; Premier Reynaud, Paris
From; President Smuts, Praetoria

We thank you for your actions in east africa. We would also ask that you release the few merchantmen you have impounded, and urge you to recognise our nation. If such a close ally of Britain recognised us, they would have no option but to lift their blockade. In addition we could diplomatically intervene between you and the Germans.

My fellow countrymen, our time of destiny is approaching. We have tried to steer our own way in the world, yet the British wish to prevent us from doing do. But fear not! We are not as weak as they think. We have made new, powerful friends, and we will soon make our presence felt. To this end, I ask you personnally to all do your part in ensuring the future of the Boer Republic and following these edicts;

- All men between 16 and 55 with any flying experience (pilots, groundcrew
and mechanics) are to report for duty and their nearest police station.
- All men between 16 and 55 with any maritime experience (merchant or
military) are to report for duty to their nearest police station.
- All men of former military experience (with any nation) are to report for
duty at their nearest police station.
- Volunteers are being sought from amongst the current army and the Boer
militia to form several Kommando units.
- All natives in the Cape Town area are to report to Lambert Bay for work
detail.
- Speakers of Italian, German and especially Japanese are being sought for
employment with the new Foriegn Ministry.
- All Diamond, Gold, Coal, Bauxite and Uranium mines are hereby nationalised
and placed at the disposal of the Boer Republic (OOC most of these were
British owned anyway)

GOD SAVE THE REPUBLIC!!

Ypres Airfield , Ypres, Belgium


Capt. Jacques Leon quickly climbed into the cockpit of his Brewster Buffalo, adjusted a few knobs and then pulled the metal hatch over the cockpit.

It has finally happened

Capt. Leon had quite a famous family. His father had served in WWI and became an ace, shooting down 6 German planes over the skies of Northern France. Enlisting in the Belgian Air Corps. At 18 years old, Leon hoped to live up to his fathers’ reputation. Now was his chance to achieve that goal.

As the young Capt. took off, dozens of other planes were scrambling off the grass airfields, most of them Gloster Gladiators. All of them had the same objective: To strafe enemy positions in the French city of Lille and Cambrai. Belgian Hurricanes would be dispatched to intercept any Anglo-French fighters that may interfere with these objectives.

Although the British had some of the most skilled pilots in the world, Jean was confident in the abilities of his fellow pilots. After all, they had been training for 2 ½ years in the finer aspects of air combat.

Looking down, the Capt. Was stupefied at the sheer number of men now moving towards France; Both Belgian and German troops, marching towards victory. Hundreds of tanks and vehicles making their imprint within the soil of this land. He truly felt sorry for those on the reciving end of this massive invasion force, for all hell was about to break loose.

“.....Capt!....Were...App..roaching..our target. Over..”

Putting his mouth to the small radio reciver, Jean replied to the pilots comments.

“ Alright, Arm your bombs and move down to 5,000 ft. Make sure to hit their armored cars and Artillery. Also, make sure to watch out for the Anti-Aircraft fire. Over.”

A chorus of “Yes Sir!”s filled the radio reciver , as each pilot positioned their planes. Suddenly, a hail of Machine-Gun fire greeted the the aircraft as they flew towards Lille. 2 Buffalos were suddenly struck and fell down to the earth, their pilots despretley trying to escape from their flaming aircraft.

Once close enough, the Belgian planes began to rake the defenses of the city with .50 caliber machine gun targets, creating several explosions. As another Gladiator was hit, Jean put his aircraft into a dive and released his bombs at several targets. The bombs tore through anything within their path, creating a malestrom of death and destruction within the gates of the city.

Pulling back up, the Capt. began to pull up and head back to base. He was stricken by grief when he only saw 5 planes join him, instead of 11. War is such a terrible thing, he thought as the planes of his squadron returned to Ypres to refuel and reload.


Offical Statement of the Belgian Government:

Today the Kingdom of Belgium sends its sons off to battle. The hainous attacks upon our allies, along with our own motivations have compelled myself to declare war on the British and French Governments. Within 24 hours, more than 2 million Germans, along with 650,000 Belgian Soliders will unleash their fury upon our enemies, from South Western Belgium.

In Africa, 110,000 Native troops, along with 40,000 Belgian Colonial Troops will defend the soverngty of the new Boer State, by attacking British and French colonial assets.

We hope that this conflict will be resolved as soon as possible, so the lives of many can be spared.
Let our armies march to victory!

King Leopold III
Lord and Protector of the People
The Kindom of Belgium

OOC: Tomzilla & Belgium Italy etc, lol, Generally everybody... any chance we can just sort of freeze this till the 26-7ish? I still have to christmas shop, and :headbang: Would prefer not to loose my nation without a shot fired ;) .Sorry, lol, Holiday's and all that. So with your agreement, I'd like to just pause this until just after Christmas sometime?

OOC: Tomzilla & Belgium Italy etc, lol, Generally everybody... any chance we can just sort of freeze this till the 26-7ish? I still have to christmas shop, and :headbang: Would prefer not to loose my nation without a shot fired ;) .Sorry, lol, Holiday's and all that. So with your agreement, I'd like to just pause this until just after Christmas sometime?
*pause-mode engaged*

To; der Fuhrer, Adolf Hitler, Berlin
From; President Jan Smuts, Praetoria

We thank you for your acceptance of our nation and the deployment of 5 U-Boats. We do feel, however, disapointed that you will not aid us with weapons. To this decision, we have a proposition for you. We are prepared to build several U-Boat pens in the town of Lamberts Bay, about 150 miles north of Cape Town. This will allow you to extend your U-Boat campaign to the south atlantic and drastically increase the range of your U-Boats. In return for this we would like the following;

- 52 Ju-90 Transport aircraft.
- Parts for 5 years
- A 5 man advisor team from the Luftwaffe for training
- A 10-man advisor team from the Fliegerkorps for parachute and airborne
ops training.
- A 10-man advisor team from the Kriegsmarine to advise on the buidling of
the U-Boats.

The plan is as follows. This group can leave southern Germany and refuel in southern Libya (with the agreement of the Mussolini). They can then land in the northern areas of Southern Rhodesia at scratch airfields currently being prepared by locals and the BRSA militia. Crossing Africa should be quite safe as most of the areas overflown are uninhabited with no combat air coverage. They will be handed over to a mixture of pilots from the newly formed BRSAAF, formed from former RAF-trained pilots, civil pilots and crop duster pilots. Your pilots can return in two of the aircraft (refueled with the last of our aviation fuel) with any extra payment you require in diamonds. We await your response.


To: President Jan Smuts
From: Adolf Hitler

We will agree with your proposition here. Perhaps we can be given some mined uranium in exchange.

OOC: Here is a link to the invasion of France: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7771334&posted=1#post7771334

OOC: Tomzilla & Belgium Italy etc, lol, Generally everybody... any chance we can just sort of freeze this till the 26-7ish? I still have to christmas shop, and :headbang: Would prefer not to loose my nation without a shot fired ;) .Sorry, lol, Holiday's and all that. So with your agreement, I'd like to just pause this until just after Christmas sometime?

OK. Just stopped my invasion of France until you get back.

OOc ; Pause agreed. Besides, my other 4 kids are feeling konid of negleted at the moment!

New York Times: May 26, 1940

FRANKLIN ROOSEVELT FOUND DEAD!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/41/250px-FDR_in_1933.jpg

Today is a very sad day for the United States, as our leader Franklin Roosevelt was found dead in his bed in the White House. Cause of death is yet to be determined, but many believe that his illness was the cause.

Vice President John N. Garner will take the helm in leading our nation in these troubled times. He will be sworn in later in the day, after the funeral procession in Washington D.C.

Eleanor Roosevelt is expected to give an eulogy at the funeral. People are welcomed to attend the funeral to show support for the nation and the Roosevelt family.

What does this mean for our country's future? Only time can tell. Some speculate that this will completely change the US foreign policy, others say that the New Deal will fall through, yet others say that John N. Garner will be the firebrand leader we need in these troubled times.

Two mysterious figures stand in an dark, damp, and chilly alleyway in Washington D.C. The figures stood close to each other, afraid to reveal their faces to any casual observer, and mumbled quietly so not to give off any conversation sounds.

The taller figure, clad in a regular outfit of a collar shirt, khaki pants, a tie, and polished black shoes nodded at the other figure.

The shorter figure wearing a trench-coat simply nodded back and said three simple words.

"It is done."

Several seconds later, the shorter figure pulled back his left sleeve then another several seconds later, there was a thunderclap. Just as suddenly, everything became quiet as a tomb once again, oblivious to the magnitude and sheer significance of what occurred.

[edit] Double post. Will edit it into something IC later on, probably after X-mas.

OOC: I was just about to send troops to French Somaliland!! I'll pause.

The Invasion of Greece has begun!!!

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7775418#post7775418

To: President Jan Smuts, Praetoria
From: Il Duce Mussolini, Rome

We are pleased that you are preparing to join the Axis. In this turn of events, we have been your friends all along. We now ask for permission to Uranium mining in your country. We hope that the friendship between our nations will be long lasting, and bring profits to the both of us.

Regards,
Il Duce Benito Mussolini

OOC: Sorry for my inactivity. I've been really busy this week and i'll get around to posting properly and continuing the italian campaign tomorrow.

Why does finland still belong to revertromance?:S

Why does finland still belong to revertromance?:S

Tenarius hasn't updated yet, he said he was busy during Christmas. (hij is er gewoon niet, lul)

OOC: Sorry for my inactivity. I've been really busy this week and i'll get around to posting properly and continuing the italian campaign tomorrow.

Don't worry. The Italians are happy you haven't dealt with us yet.

OOC:

A minor nitpick, but why are you guys making deals regarding Uranium? IIRC, the nuclear programs didn't really take off until after 1942'ish. I may be wrong myself.

The Germans were the ones who were trying to develop nuclear weapons, as well as the British (who then transferred it to USA). I doubt Italy was developing nuclear weapons.

After all, the first nuclear weapons weren't built until 1944-1945, and that was the USA. Germany would have built theirs by 1946 or later if the war didn't end in 1945.

I admit I may be wrong, but I do remember that the importance of uranium wasn't fully realized until later in the war, meaning people wouldn't rush to mine uranium in 1935 - 1940.

Sorry for the nitpick, guys.

OOC: Right, I updated.


IC:


Diplomatic Message to Italy:
To: Il Duce Mussolini, Rome, Italia
From: Prime Minister Mitsumama, Tokyo, Nihon
Japan has no need for a useless material such as 'Uranium', and our own fleet is still mobilizing into a position where it can effectively fight the British. We hope to wait until the completion of the Yamato-Class before we enter this war, as well as the completion of the new Zero-Sen.

We wish you luck in the conflict, and if things heat up too much we will help you by putting pressure on the British, French and Dutch Navies in the Pacific. The Emperor himself has given you his promise, and he is not a man to break a word of honor.

OOC:

A minor nitpick, but why are you guys making deals regarding Uranium? IIRC, the nuclear programs didn't really take off until after 1942'ish. I may be wrong myself.

The Germans were the ones who were trying to develop nuclear weapons, as well as the British (who then transferred it to USA). I doubt Italy was developing nuclear weapons.

After all, the first nuclear weapons weren't built until 1944-1945, and that was the USA. Germany would have built theirs by 1946 or later if the war didn't end in 1945.

I admit I may be wrong, but I do remember that the importance of uranium wasn't fully realized until later in the war, meaning people wouldn't rush to mine uranium in 1935 - 1940.

Sorry for the nitpick, guys.

ooc: Well, the Germans abandoned their nuke programe in 1944 after the heavy water they produced at the Norsk Hydro plant in Vemork in German-occupied Norway was sunk in a Norwegian fjord (can't remember which one :( ), so they (the Germans) couldn't have produced a nuke.

For those who are interested and want more information, check this site (http://www.fettes.com/scotsatwar/AZindex/v/vemorkraid.htm), or do a google on "Operation Gunnerside".

To; Chairman Josef Stalin, Moscow
From; President Jan Smuts, Praetoria

You cannot negotiate with the British for parts of our nation. They are no longer in control here, we are now an independent nation. You will never control any part of our homeland!


OOC: First of all you don't know that i sent a telegram to British Prime minister, so why are you replying to it?

IC:

---Message from Joseph Stalin to French Prime Minister----

We are still awaiting for your reply. Our forces are already prepared to be transported into Italy by trains and aircrafts. We only await for you to agree with our terms.

OOC: Okay now to Italy and Germany and whoever else is Italie's ally. You don't know that i am messaging British Prime Minister, so you don't expect an attack. My forces aren't even mobilized yet, but they are ready to, but you can't possibly know it since there were no spy planes and satelites back then. Just to avoid any ugliness.

OOC: Right, I updated.


IC:


Diplomatic Message to Italy:
To: Il Duce Mussolini, Rome, Italia
From: Prime Minister Mitsumama, Tokyo, Nihon
Japan has no need for a useless material such as 'Uranium', and our own fleet is still mobilizing into a position where it can effectively fight the British. We hope to wait until the completion of the Yamato-Class before we enter this war, as well as the completion of the new Zero-Sen.

We wish you luck in the conflict, and if things heat up too much we will help you by putting pressure on the British, French and Dutch Navies in the Pacific. The Emperor himself has given you his promise, and he is not a man to break a word of honor.

OOC: Okay a question here, since then did Japan have any Uranium?

New York Times: May 26, 1940

FRANKLIN ROOSEVELT FOUND DEAD!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/41/250px-FDR_in_1933.jpg

Today is a very sad day for the United States, as our leader Franklin Roosevelt was found dead in his bed in the White House. Cause of death is yet to be determined, but many believe that his illness was the cause.

Vice President John N. Garner will take the helm in leading our nation in these troubled times. He will be sworn in later in the day, after the funeral procession in Washington D.C.

Eleanor Roosevelt is expected to give an eulogy at the funeral. People are welcomed to attend the funeral to show support for the nation and the Roosevelt family.

What does this mean for our country's future? Only time can tell. Some speculate that this will completely change the US foreign policy, others say that the New Deal will fall through, yet others say that John N. Garner will be the firebrand leader we need in these troubled times.


At the Norwegian Embassy in Washington, a telegram from Oslo ticked in.
http://www.norway.org/NR/rdonlyres/68386368-6CAF-418A-BADC-
The ambassador saw the telegram on his desk, read it, and immediately told his secretary to get an appointment at the State Department as soon as possible. He had to deliver this in person.

The telegram read:
King Haakon VII of Norway has recieved the tragic news of President Franklin Delano Roosevelts passing, and sends his and the Norwegian peoples condolences to the family of President Roosevelt and to the American people.

OOC:

A minor nitpick, but why are you guys making deals regarding Uranium? IIRC, the nuclear programs didn't really take off until after 1942'ish. I may be wrong myself.

The Germans were the ones who were trying to develop nuclear weapons, as well as the British (who then transferred it to USA). I doubt Italy was developing nuclear weapons.

After all, the first nuclear weapons weren't built until 1944-1945, and that was the USA. Germany would have built theirs by 1946 or later if the war didn't end in 1945.

I admit I may be wrong, but I do remember that the importance of uranium wasn't fully realized until later in the war, meaning people wouldn't rush to mine uranium in 1935 - 1940.

Sorry for the nitpick, guys.

OOC - Uranium was being mined by most countrys that had it from the 1920s for scientific research. Although the Anglo-American and German nuclear programmes were well documented, it was in fact the Italians who led the world in atomic research through the 1920s. When Mussolini came to power, he cancelled all weapons research as he only believed in conventional forces and the prestige to be had from large numbers of armed forces. The German nuclear programme never took off because Hitler was similiarly disinterested, but it was kept going by other government forces due to the fragmented nature of the nazi government machine. The English were also disinterested, and were spurred on in their efforts by the Americans. The Japanese had no nuclear programme, although, interestibngly enough, they were the world leaders in gas and bio weapon research, both of which were used extensively throughout China.

OOC: First of all you don't know that i sent a telegram to British Prime minister, so why are you replying to it?

IC:

---Message from Joseph Stalin to French Prime Minister----

We are still awaiting for your reply. Our forces are already prepared to be transported into Italy by trains and aircrafts. We only await for you to agree with our terms.

OOC: Okay now to Italy and Germany and whoever else is Italie's ally. You don't know that i am messaging British Prime Minister, so you don't expect an attack. My forces aren't even mobilized yet, but they are ready to, but you can't possibly know it since there were no spy planes and satelites back then. Just to avoid any ugliness.

OOC My apologies. This is my first computer based RP and I was getting a little ahead of myself. That post has now been deleted.

OOC: Okay a question here, since then did Japan have any Uranium?

OOC: Not sure, but they did have a nuclear weapons program in world war 2. Little known fact they successfully tested a nuclear dirty bomb in modern day North Korea on August 10, 1945. Oh yeah, Pushka, once again, how are you going to transport troops into Italy if you have to go through Romania first. RL they joined the Axis.

OOC: Japan had Uranium and they had a Nuclear Weapons Program, but at this time they do not want anybody to know that until they feel it is well underway and difficult to sabotage.

OOC: Not sure, but they did have a nuclear weapons program in world war 2. Little known fact they successfully tested a nuclear dirty bomb in modern day North Korea on August 10, 1945. Oh yeah, Pushka, once again, how are you going to transport troops into Italy if you have to go through Romania first. RL they joined the Axis.

OOC: Easy enough, invade them and take them in few days. I also have to go through few other nations on my way to Italy, but it shouldn't be hard, unless i run into confrontation with Germany, then its gonna be a serious war. But don't worry, i got skills. Kutuzov is my idol. Russian army was stronger then German army, the only reason we had to retreat in first year was because of the failures of our command (comrade Stallin killed all our experienced generals and put in green guys who were watching educational videos about how Stalin is a god all their life.), but since i am planning on eliminating those failures, i think that Germany might just loose the war earlier then may 9th (Russian V-day, we are 8 hours ahead of you in time, so then Germans signed surrender it was already the 9th in Russia), or maybe not, maybe you decide to ally with me or to let me move my troops through Romania without interference, who knows. But if you fight me, you'd be facing millions, and you don't have panzers and Tigers yet.

OOC: Easy enough, invade them and take them in few days. I also have to go through few other nations on my way to Italy, but it shouldn't be hard, unless i run into confrontation with Germany, then its gonna be a serious war. But don't worry, i got skills. Kutuzov is my idol. Russian army was stronger then German army, the only reason we had to retreat in first year was because of the failures of our command (comrade Stallin killed all our experienced generals and put in green guys who were watching educational videos about how Stalin is a god all their life.), but since i am planning on eliminating those failures, i think that Germany might just loose the war earlier then may 9th (Russian V-day, we are 8 hours ahead of you in time, so then Germans signed surrender it was already the 9th in Russia), or maybe not, maybe you decide to ally with me or to let me move my troops through Romania without interference, who knows. But if you fight me, you'd be facing millions, and you don't have panzers and Tigers yet.



short story he'll god mod his way through this war

short story he'll god mod his way through this war

OOC: You aren't welcome here anymore. If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all.

OOC - Uranium was being mined by most countrys that had it from the 1920s for scientific research. Although the Anglo-American and German nuclear programmes were well documented, it was in fact the Italians who led the world in atomic research through the 1920s. When Mussolini came to power, he cancelled all weapons research as he only believed in conventional forces and the prestige to be had from large numbers of armed forces. The German nuclear programme never took off because Hitler was similiarly disinterested, but it was kept going by other government forces due to the fragmented nature of the nazi government machine. The English were also disinterested, and were spurred on in their efforts by the Americans. The Japanese had no nuclear programme, although, interestibngly enough, they were the world leaders in gas and bio weapon research, both of which were used extensively throughout China.

Thanks for clearing that up and the info, Ollieland. I appreciate it.

However, this brings up another question / point I have. I'll quote another post to clarify it. Here goes....

OOC: Easy enough, invade them and take them in few days. I also have to go through few other nations on my way to Italy, but it shouldn't be hard, unless i run into confrontation with Germany, then its gonna be a serious war. But don't worry, i got skills. Kutuzov is my idol. Russian army was stronger then German army, the only reason we had to retreat in first year was because of the failures of our command (comrade Stallin killed all our experienced generals and put in green guys who were watching educational videos about how Stalin is a god all their life.), but since i am planning on eliminating those failures, i think that Germany might just loose the war earlier then may 9th (Russian V-day, we are 8 hours ahead of you in time, so then Germans signed surrender it was already the 9th in Russia), or maybe not, maybe you decide to ally with me or to let me move my troops through Romania without interference, who knows. But if you fight me, you'd be facing millions, and you don't have panzers and Tigers yet.


Now I'm under the assumption that everything happened in this RP as it did happen in history up to 1940.

Everything happened, like Great Depression, Hitler's rise to power, declaration of war in 1939, Roosevelt being elected twice, Japan building up navy, etc. All this happened before 1940, and is "canon history".

I do remember the rule for this RP is "Anything goes within reasonable limits AFTER RP start date in 1940".

Stalin purged his generals before 1940 if I'm not mistaken. Therefore Pushka won't have these generals in 1940, as they already were dead. However, he can train new generals and such starting in 1940 onwards, and he can break the Soviet non-aggression pact with Hitler if he desires, as it was broken in 1941 by Hitler.

I'm quickly losing track of what's happening in this WW 2 thread, as some people are posting quite different outcomes before 1940. Also, I'm afraid that some people are already using "pre-knowledge" to alter things into their favor such as trying to accelerate nuclear weapons programs, or massing millions of troops suddenly, build fortifications exactly where historical venues of attack would have happened (like double or triple fortifying Normandy beaches, as people here knew about D-Day), etc.

I'm RP'ing Vice President John N. Garner to begin a "divergence" in USA history in WW 2. I have plans for the USA which would be much more consistent and believable with the introduction of a "divergence". I'm not going to do any "pre-congnitive" crap, so if the Japanese (Tenarius) decided to attack Pearl Harbor, I wouldn't say "The USA sends up 100 planes in patrol, discovering the secret Japanese fleet" or crap. I'll play it naturally, preserving the element of surprise.

I apologize for being harsh, ranting, and nitpicks, but I don't want to end up with a messed up WW 2 where I can't follow points of reference, or if people suddenly do things quite opposite or uncharacterstic of their nation right out of the blue.

I just want this WW 2 RP to become a great one without ANY "pre-cognitive" crap and try to make it as smooth and natural "alternate history" as possible.


I want to extend a hand to Tenarius and Ollieland for being willing to try to play it as realistically as possible. Thank you for listening to my questions, nitpicks, and criticism. I appreciate it, as RP's need constructive criticism to become even better. :)

OOC: Nono, I must thank YOU Sharina, for making the point evident. Ok, your welcome in return. =)

Real RPers can listen to constructive criticisms and nitpicks in order to make their RP better. I only hope that you continue to find chinks in our RPing skills and help us patch all of them up with quick-drying cement. ^_^

Until then...Japan is going to continue on with its quiet weapons development, it has yet to know if the Nuclear Bomb is even feasible, but it will keep going anyway...steadily marching on...meanwhile preparing for an invasion.

Thanks for clearing that up and the info, Ollieland. I appreciate it.

However, this brings up another question / point I have. I'll quote another post to clarify it. Here goes....




Now I'm under the assumption that everything happened in this RP as it did happen in history up to 1940.

Everything happened, like Great Depression, Hitler's rise to power, declaration of war in 1939, Roosevelt being elected twice, Japan building up navy, etc. All this happened before 1940, and is "canon history".

I do remember the rule for this RP is "Anything goes within reasonable limits AFTER RP start date in 1940".

Stalin purged his generals before 1940 if I'm not mistaken. Therefore Pushka won't have these generals in 1940, as they already were dead. However, he can train new generals and such starting in 1940 onwards, and he can break the Soviet non-aggression pact with Hitler if he desires, as it was broken in 1941 by Hitler.

I'm quickly losing track of what's happening in this WW 2 thread, as some people are posting quite different outcomes before 1940. Also, I'm afraid that some people are already using "pre-knowledge" to alter things into their favor such as trying to accelerate nuclear weapons programs, or massing millions of troops suddenly, build fortifications exactly where historical venues of attack would have happened (like double or triple fortifying Normandy beaches, as people here knew about D-Day), etc.

I'm RP'ing Vice President John N. Garner to begin a "divergence" in USA history in WW 2. I have plans for the USA which would be much more consistent and believable with the introduction of a "divergence". I'm not going to do any "pre-congnitive" crap, so if the Japanese (Tenarius) decided to attack Pearl Harbor, I wouldn't say "The USA sends up 100 planes in patrol, discovering the secret Japanese fleet" or crap. I'll play it naturally, preserving the element of surprise.

I apologize for being harsh, ranting, and nitpicks, but I don't want to end up with a messed up WW 2 where I can't follow points of reference, or if people suddenly do things quite opposite or uncharacterstic of their nation right out of the blue.

I just want this WW 2 RP to become a great one without ANY "pre-cognitive" crap and try to make it as smooth and natural "alternate history" as possible.


I want to extend a hand to Tenarius and Ollieland for being willing to try to play it as realistically as possible. Thank you for listening to my questions, nitpicks, and criticism. I appreciate it, as RP's need constructive criticism to become even better. :)

About the Nuclear Weapons, Uranium, etc. Well, the theory of Nuclear Weapons had existed long before the actual production of them, and before the Second World War there were extensive programs by several countries to try and make a nuclear weapon, however the war stopped the majority of these because of the cost. Also, Uranium would be a valuable commodity, because of its nuclear properties, but also because of its chemical properties.
Also, nuclear power was also an idea, and actually would be more helpful than a nuclear weapon, because the weapon would require great expenses and resources, whereas the power would also require them but would produce power, which is useful etc.

Just helping to clear this issue up.

Tenarius: I know you're really busy at moment, etc. but perhaps next time you update you should move South Africa to Neutral, or Axis? It's not really in the Allies any more...

To: Finnish Government (couldn't find name, sorry)
From: Il Duce Mussolini, Rome

As your friends and allies, we warn you: though the Axis has a non-aggression pact with the U.S.S.R, they are enemies. Choose caution, and prepare defences.

OOC: Easy enough, invade them and take them in few days. I also have to go through few other nations on my way to Italy, but it shouldn't be hard, unless i run into confrontation with Germany, then its gonna be a serious war. But don't worry, i got skills. Kutuzov is my idol. Russian army was stronger then German army, the only reason we had to retreat in first year was because of the failures of our command (comrade Stallin killed all our experienced generals and put in green guys who were watching educational videos about how Stalin is a god all their life.), but since i am planning on eliminating those failures, i think that Germany might just loose the war earlier then may 9th (Russian V-day, we are 8 hours ahead of you in time, so then Germans signed surrender it was already the 9th in Russia), or maybe not, maybe you decide to ally with me or to let me move my troops through Romania without interference, who knows. But if you fight me, you'd be facing millions, and you don't have panzers and Tigers yet.

You forget about German interest in Romania, especially at a town called Ploiesti.We have some of the world's best nuclear scientists(those that didn't flee before World War Two) such as Weiner Hisenberg. All of your top officers and generals were basically killed during the Purges of 1937. The best general you have is Zhukov, and he is in Siberia now, waiting to see if Japan will attack again like they did in 1939.

You forget about German interest in Romania, especially at a town called Ploiesti.We have some of the world's best nuclear scientists(those that didn't flee before World War Two) such as Weiner Hisenberg. All of your top officers and generals were basically killed during the Purges of 1937. The best general you have is Zhukov, and he is in Siberia now, waiting to see if Japan will attack again like they did in 1939.

OOC: But i don't have to play dumb like those generals that cost my country 20 million people, i can play smart. I can use my own tactics. Also remember that Germany was only in the middle of developing Uranium enrichment process by the end of WW2. You not gonna have nukes in 1940, are you?

The Latest news from the leaders of the Latvian, Estonian, and Lithuanian Partisans: Russia, we have what you may need!

A note was sent today to Stalin, saying that if any assistance is needed in the war, we would be glad to supply you with any # of troops, artillay, supplies for your men, etc. We wish you luck in your fight to stop the Axis alliance.

The Latest news from the leaders of the Latvian, Estonian, and Lithuanian Partisans: Russia, we have what you may need!

A note was sent today to Stalin, saying that if any assistance is needed in the war, we would be glad to supply you with any # of troops, artillay, supplies for your men, etc. We wish you luck in your fight to stop the Axis alliance.

---a message from Stalin to the leaders of Latvian, Lithuanian and Estonian Partisans----

We shall assist you, soon we will attack Italy, if our allies agree to meet our demands. My generals are working on a plan to liberate the rest of Europe from German grip as well. I will not go into details in this telegram, but surely will later. For now make sure that your soldiers are ready and wait for our signal. The unholy horde of the Nazis will be purged from the world! For now wait for a day will come then you reclaim your nation.

To:U.S.S.R
From:Lithania, Estonia, and Latvia

Stalin,
I might be incorrect, but have you attempted to liberate Finland? They seem to be a greater threat on our side of Europe than Italy. Trust us, we do agree with your decision to help the U.K. in their attempts to attack Italy. However, don't you think Finland is a greater threat? If you still consider aiding the U.K., we will still aid you. This is just a messege to think about other possibilities. Thank you.

Lithuania, Estonia, and Latvia partisans

To:U.S.S.R
From:Lithania, Estonia, and Latvia

Stalin,
I might be incorrect, but have you attempted to liberate Finland? They seem to be a greater threat on our side of Europe than Italy. Trust us, we do agree with your decision to help the U.K. in their attempts to attack Italy. However, don't you think Finland is a greater threat? If you still consider aiding the U.K., we will still aid you. This is just a messege to think about other possibilities. Thank you.

Lithuania, Estonia, and Latvia partisans

----message from Stalin to leaders of Latvia, Estonia, and Lithuania----

I believe that we are able to attack both Finland and Italy. Our armies are plentiful. But we want to take our enemy by surprise, we will only attack once Britain and France agree with our terms.