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Intelligent Neighbors
04-12-2004, 16:34
I didn't recognize he was an LoD Protector.

Welcome, IN. :)


Thanks, I will find a cunning plan to get me involved.

How about if I suprise Verstummelung with a raid on his homeland? His small nation should not pose too much of a threat. :D.

My resons behind the attack wil be three-fold:

1) Witzgall is an old regional ally.
2) Witzgall is facist, I am right wing as well.
3) I am a Protector in LOD (thanks Nan!).

Here is the fleet I intend to use:

Imperial Fleet no.2
4 Illeana Vassili-Class Carrier (Fully loaded with F-35 JSF)
4 SSN-688 Los Angeles Sub
6 Seawolf Subs
14 Ticonderoga Class Cruisers
12 Oliver Hazard Perry Destroyer/Frigate
6 Arleigh Burke AEIGS Destoryer
6 Spruance Class Destroyers
30 LHD-1 Wasp Class Amphibious Assault ships
20 LSD-49 Harpers Ferry Class Amphibious Assault ships
90 LCAC
60 AAVP7A1 Assualt Amphibian Vehicle Personel

-Forces Loaded onto fleet

Air Support Force
10 A10 Thunderbolt
300 F71A Fighter Bombers (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=352003&highlight=F-71A+%27Shkara%27+Fighter+Bomber)
50 F-117A Nighthawk
100 Numen IV's

Artillery Support Force
200 Crusader Mobile Artillery
100 155mm towed Artillery
100 Vulcan AA cannons
100 MLRS Missile systems
200 Patriot AA systems

Armoured Strike Force 1
400 Steel Tiger IFV's
100 Revenant MKII MBT's
100 Revenant MKI MBT's

Armoured Strike Force 2
400 Steel Tiger IFV's
100 Revenant MKII MBT's
100 Revenant MKI MBT's

Rotary Attack Force 1
50 Bolt Attack Helicopters
50 Zephyr Attack Helicopters
200 Marsupial Gunships
50 Chinook Heavy Lifters

Rotary Attack Force 2
50 Bolt Attack Helicopters
50 Zephyr Attack Helicopters
200 Marsupial Gunships
50 Chinook Heavy Lifters

Sturm Krieg X-Soldier Squadron
...Too Classified for now!
...Too Classified for now!
...Too Classified for now!
...Too Classified for now!
Witzgall
04-12-2004, 18:16
Alright, some of you are getting pissed. I see that...

The "flying carrier", which I have yet to read the IC post but I would assume it is a Zeppelin, is a RL thing. Germany used them as missile bases in WW2, as well as for other things.

The airplane technology that we use has been fully researched. Phoenixius must have done research into this and all of his systems, and most likely posted in the old Science & Education forum. However, I don't have the link to his post in it, and since S&E was PWed (sort of), only I could see it most likely.

Of course, I bet it was deleted off of the Unforgiven forum (if thats where it was posted.)

Holographic technology
-Clouds of dust that can confuse a missile into think its a plane
-Massive aircraft carriers that fly and drop troops and tanks.
-Submarines that can launch larger submarines.
-Unlimited funds, and resorces.


If you said it was 2010, this can all be clarified. Massive air carriers have been explained (Zeppelins).

Submarines that launch larger submarines (I'm assuming a submarine carrier?) has been used by many nations. Japan even experimented with it during the time they tried to make a submarine capable of launching planes.

Unlimited funds and resources? My main export is aircraft, and that is also my main source of jobs. I buy my items over times, and with the whole 1 NS Year=1 RL day in the Storefronts, they have been made.

ANd as for you people leaving, forgetting your even here, if you still stand this way then this entire RP is pointless.

You two and DPUO were the only posters truthfully, except for the small posts of Tomzilla and WC.

So then, screw it, like my other RP. Whatever. I'll do something better next time.
DontPissUsOff
04-12-2004, 18:31
*Sigh* Sorry man. Shame on those who signed up and then didn't bother turning up, too.
Witzgall
04-12-2004, 18:32
Yep.

Eh, when I come up with something truly original and fun to play with, I'll alert those who stayed true and actually RPed more than 2 posts.
Intelligent Neighbors
04-12-2004, 19:39
Shucks Witz.

I would've posted more, but I've only just joined.

In the future, if you have any RP ideas, let me know and I will be more than happy to participate.

Thanks.
Witzgall
04-12-2004, 19:41
Shucks Witz.

I would've posted more, but I've only just joined.

In the future, if you have any RP ideas, let me know and I will be more than happy to participate.

Thanks.

I will alert you when I think of something.
Tomzilla
04-12-2004, 22:02
You two and DPUO were the only posters truthfully, except for the small posts of Tomzilla and WC.

I was asking for permission to allow a massive naval battle off of Ver., but no one answered. So, is this dead then?
Witzgall
04-12-2004, 22:23
For now...yes.

It may be dead forever.

I am going to start a new RP sometime soon...I will alert you when it begins.
Ratheia
04-12-2004, 22:40
I would stay, but hell, I can't compete with you guys.

My SU-47's versus your mach 4+ Numens? I'd be eaten alive.

I'm strictly modern tech.
Witzgall
04-12-2004, 23:12
So am I...

And your Su-47s are a formidable match.

The Mach 4+ Numens are possible, I have researched my Numens for months, especially the Numen IV. The Numen V was just an upgraded engine, really, and a stronger g force limit with new armor.
Truitt
04-12-2004, 23:13
Well, let me start this.

First, my weaponry.

Since about my 500 million pop hit, I have been interested in technology of large porportions. And since 1337 and Tal. were big costumers in my Exports Division, I had massive amounts of income (mainly becouse of a fluke in my own pricing making a missle a billion instead of a million). The money was mainly put away in the Federal War Machine, developed as a totally separate system of cash that gains interest in the NSBC. When the NSBC went down, I myself went inactive for two weeks, making the account still gain interest until the utter destruction of the bank.

The money, that hit about 56 trillion USD after interest (and I still say sorry to 1337 for all that he lost and continue to make it up for him)

Now, how my first big projexct which ended in flames, the Liberator. A massive aircraft carrier that had four hydrolic angled decks and a main un-poweered standerd deck. Only one was made for Truitti service and five were exported.

At about the time when the Aura, or Project Spirit, started, my treasury had lowered to 43 trillion USD. It was designned, although said to be a "flying carrier" as really a whole base that could fly, land, float, or submerge. It has three runways on the top deck, with the middle used as the retractable VLS and parking sections. The inside of the Aura is complex and fairly hollow due to the need of little armor. An internal "Ghost Strip" was also placed inside for added air support. Next to the "Ghost Strip" were the two "Secoundary Flap Strips" which had hydrolic-powered runways ontop of the top thrust pods. The main power, although ramjet, is in the hydrogen used in the ballast tanks to help level off and such. The overall aircraft count is about 400 (althoguh it could be refitted with more). It mainly also can house amphibious craft also where they can be lowered by five internal cranes. The Aura however is the pride of the Federal Navy, Marvy Force, and Airforce of Truitt.

Next to the Aura is the massive numbers of submarines I have. Most say I have nearly double the size than a antion wiuth 1.200billion population, but I say I am normal. Why? In a tready that ended a massive war inbetween myself and seven others, I was banned from my highly advanced and powerful surface navy (mainly becouse my great aircraft technology and aircraft carriers and my missle technology and missle cruisers). Thus, I was limited to only 60, yes, 60 surface ships. Of which, they can not be of the CVN or DDG class. So, I turnned to submarines, which I had very few at the time. Becouse of this, the T-Boat Fleet and its designation of SSD started.

Now, to the three Diplomat-class "submarine carriers." They were designned really as four Seawolf-class SSNs welded together for a massive underwater missle silo, btu the space came about as a submarine carrier for the newer Terroist-class SSA (an other new designation, which has only two-three person crews and are ultrasmall). It also has the ability to have up to four Seawolf-class SSNs (becouse the hull was enlarged for the new role) in a flooded garage under it.

Now, to the mos contriversial thing I have, the TyH-58 Cockatiel line of over 20 variants. It has the Hologram System, Cloud Dust, Liger System, and Pulse Cannon. All of which hosued around a ramjet engine and one-9 men in its crew. It was designned after a 2 month research effort into the best thign I could make with my own knowledge and the best I could get with 2010 technology (and all but the Liger System is 2008 technology!). For more information, go to www.newcomregion.tk and find Truitti Storefront, everythign is there.

Next to the Aura was the Cloud Dust and "Green Barrade" Hologram System.
Truitt
04-12-2004, 23:27
Ohh, just re-reading this, my Cloud Dust.

It is made really with a cool material that, if it heats up by the surrounding air (which will in the first 10-30 minutes of diployment) will turn into water or very heavy gas that will sink slowly other than barely staying where it was deployed.

It is cool in nature, which makes it hide the IR reatings (some what, not all the way). As to the radar stopping abilities, it has small near-lighter than air solids that sink at about 5ft per minute at Cloud Dust temperture. It somewhat could confuse a missle, but these are old technologies that could actually be hurt. For that is the ship-wide jamming system co-designed by Tango Line (before I annex him) and myself.

Any other questions? All my technolgoy will also be up in my StoreFrotn for sale after my next RP (I am starting an other one becouse I got all hyped up for nothing).
Truitt
04-12-2004, 23:43
Alright, sorry people.

This is the first time I had my Cloud Dust used and I found a major mistake in it (an atomic-based confusion in my own memory) and All Cloud Dust information is currently being changed to just a visual destruction aid (as in dust that performance jets use in thier airshows but longer-lasting by a minute or two and it also would spread out).

All Cloud Dust information is currently deleted form the Aura and TyH-58 Cockatiel line and am currently redoing my whole technology list.

Sorry for this, I can not remember how it got around my own technology-check a week ago.
Ratheia
04-12-2004, 23:47
So am I...

And your Su-47s are a formidable match.

The Mach 4+ Numens are possible, I have researched my Numens for months, especially the Numen IV. The Numen V was just an upgraded engine, really, and a stronger g force limit with new armor.

True. I would just consider them more than modern-tech, if it is from now to '08.

My SU-47's, however, have a max speed of Mach 2.5 and are highly maneuverable with their FSW wings.

By the way, what's the point of a fighter going Mach 4+? The fuel would be guzzled like a trillion Hummers and the aircraft would be put under incredible strees, no matter what material it is made of.
Phoenixius
05-12-2004, 02:33
DPUO, I wasn't saying that your navy was too large - I was going to have a look at your population to see if it was possible, but personally I wouln't have minded.

To Ratheia and Verstummelung, I hope you have forgiven me. As I said before, its the first time the majority of this stuff is being used in combat, so any help fixing it would be helpful.
Witzgall
05-12-2004, 02:36
well, actually the fuel would not be guzzled seeing how it is a specially made engine...
Phoenixius
05-12-2004, 02:42
Hey Witzgall, if Ratheia and Verstummelung agree to continue RPing, do we continue?
Truitt
05-12-2004, 02:47
Alright, your engine:

Yes, those speeds would kill, defenatly.

But the KAR-5 (fuel used in his engine and my own) is a solid propellant that burns slowly, but gives off massive amounts of heat and force durring this. It is expencive, yes. As to the whole thing of that speed, it is through the Flame Jet. It uses extra fuel injected into the engine by an alternate fuel injection tube other than the main one which allows it to create more thrust. The only problem is, although the force and msot of its exhust flies towards the rear, some can get stuck and heated heavily into the escape duct, which is why the Escape Chaft was implaced.

This ability allows the engine to burst out speeds up to the said speed for no longer than 5-7 minutes, depending on what your altitude, engine type, fuel, and starting speed is. It can be maxed to 10 minutes if it is at high altitudes and at the fullest of supercruise (which is around mach 1.2-1.4 if I am correct on this particular engine).

The engine, although using a -Jet TMS (Thrust Modifiing System), is a turbofan (the -Jet TMS is designned for ramjets usually, but works just as well with turbofans). As said, it can not sustain those speeds long, but good enough to get away in time.
Truitt
05-12-2004, 02:50
I would actually like to continue with the RP. If you all wish, I will remake the whole Cloud Dust idea as being just smoke released, and never deployed by the Auraor Cockatiels.

As to the other problems, I will keep holograms down to say 5? (although 12 can be made by a single fighter) As to the whole missle uses, I will not use them (the Spread-Sheet Missles and Bombs) for the rest of the RP.

So, how does it sound if we continue this little RP? Bunker Shot just started and I am eager to get this over. lol.
Witzgall
05-12-2004, 02:56
If Val and Ratheia accept the items, then yes, it can continue...
Truitt
05-12-2004, 02:59
There's your explaination you wanted Witz!
Verstummelung
05-12-2004, 05:46
Yep.

Eh, when I come up with something truly original and fun to play with, I'll alert those who stayed true and actually RPed more than 2 posts.

It lost its fun when people who could fight the war against I, DUPO and others by themselves joined up. I joined only because it was clearly just you. Truitti I believe claimed, he would only engage unless the threat of you losing was a possibility. I'm not going to fight a war against three super nations, when either one of them could fight this war and win it by themselve.

As for the massive plane....
My thoughts are as fallows.

A Zepplin is filled with highly explosive gas, thus it's able to float as well as it does. Yet....the last time I checked Zepplins don't carry several Jet fighters, Tanks and 1000 troops. And have the missile capacity to hit any part of my country. I'm sorry but something like that cannot possibly exist. Because the Zepplin would have to be atleast ten times the size and have a large amount of fuel and be extreamly slow. Because Tanks and Jet Fighters, plus troops and such would all together way Many Many Many tons, and the point of the Zepplin is to carry as much weight as possible.

And I know all about the Submarines carrying aircraft, The Japanese used it during WW2, they had a fleet of submarines with a water-tight hanger type thing constructed on their decks to carry an aircraft with folded up wings.

Yet when you have a full fledged Nuclear Submarine carrying Nuclear Submarines of a great size all in one, is alittle futuristic. I know that these days, submarines can launch small battery powered submarines, but not big Nukes. In nationstates I think 1 day equals what a year or a month? So from what I'm thinking if we start at 2001, and went about 5 days at war? I suppose that would be 5 days, so I assume none of us should have had the things we have had. Even today, holograms do not exist to where they are small enough to used as a counter measure. And this cloud dust technology should either. Use a Chaff, its much more effective.

Again, I'm not intrested in a war to where I have no remote possibility of even winning a battle, so my choice to stay out is final. Yes I did enjoy myself during the beach defense. It was actually a good way to knock off some stress, but now its gone to something I cannot even get any form of pleasure out of. Honestly, its not fun when super nations join in and back you into a corner. I know in real life if this were happing I'd have no choice, but here I do, and my choice is to quit this rp. Because as I said, its not any fun.

Sorry Witz, I know you wanted a war that was truly good, but theres not a point in playing when you have all the supernations backing you, and technology that cannot be beaten by the average nation.
Witzgall
05-12-2004, 17:11
Alright Verstummelung...perhaps we could work on a roleplay concerning me and you...possibly DPUO...

2v1 or something. TG me, guys, if you two are interested.
Ratheia
05-12-2004, 17:27
I'm in.

Forgive me for my rash leaving.

It just semed that I was living in the stone age while you guys have your holographic thingies...
Witzgall
05-12-2004, 17:34
Well, I'm incapable of roleplaying this any further for now. I'm helping Truitt with a little battle thingy in the region.

:headbang:
DontPissUsOff
05-12-2004, 18:04
I seem to have a major NATO commitment arising, which only began once this RP had started, so if we pause it 'til everyone's ready it'd be a good move. :)
Witzgall
05-12-2004, 18:13
If you guys want to discuss things or something, and you have mIRC, meet me in #internationalincidents.

I'm on right now, and will most likely be on for some good duration...
Armandian Cheese
05-12-2004, 21:33
Geez, I signed up for this and it collapsed before I had a chance to get in. Well, Witzgall, can you give word if you're going to try this again? I don't have mIRC, so just post here or telegram me. That is, if I can join.
Witzgall
05-12-2004, 21:36
Geez, I signed up for this and it collapsed before I had a chance to get in. Well, Witzgall, can you give word if you're going to try this again? I don't have mIRC, so just post here or telegram me. That is, if I can join.

Yeah sure. I'll TG you if this begins again.
Truitt
05-12-2004, 22:28
Sorry Val for my resent attacking, but I thought you had that thing abotu rather me taking you than Witz for a futher RP idea.

But anyways, I myself have just startd a regionla war my accident and need my full forces over there, so I guess I am out of this RP too.

As to my Aura, I have researched it fully, and with the funds I proved to exist, it is possable (it is not only gas lifted, but also engine, which is why it can carry so much).

All my technology listing is on that URL I said. If anyone wants to bug into the regional battle, yell at me (so far I am only letting regional people join in and maybe some from this incident since it ended).

Have fun you guys while I blow myself up.