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Okay, here it goes

Simply, it is abit like a rally. A unit of your choice goes up against gradually harder units of my army. Every three battles or so you can repair/refill your unit up to maxium.
If you're a coward and don't want to fight a future tech nation, you can always fight Nivera on http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7132399&posted=1#post7132399

Interested? If so right down here what kind of unit it is (space craft, airplane, chopper, tank, infantry, single solider etc. NO NAVY PLEASE! I DON'T HAVE ONE!!!)

1 more thing, no GODMODING PLEASE!

EDIT: an example is made further down (at the bottom of this page)

Best scores for moleland's challege

Single troop: N/a
Infantry: 823.7 by Nireva
Armour: 1850 by Yatsumica in the 'Dashi Sniper'
Fighter: 2,700 by Nireva in the 'Gripen'
Starfighter: N/a
Space craft: N/a

Nations waiting to start (mainly so I remember!)

Survo
China and Japan
Sephrioth
New Kiev

And, now you can challenge with ModernTech too. I will make a new topic for Modern Tech. I'll get the link here.

For Modern-Tech Nations. (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7125261#post7125261)

I'm not up for a test RP as of yet, but I wouldn't mind keeping it in mind for my army and air force, as I have considerably less experience with those two areas than I do with my navy.

I didn't mention space force because I'm still looking for a way to integrate that, but my previous free-form RPG experience was a space RP.

okay, thankyou fro the replys. Anyone else interested?

Well, I have just finished a few NS Decades of Reaserch on a Aerospace Supieriority fighter, and the prototype needs a testdrive, so....

100, heh goodbye military budget!

I need to test my 100 Nimitz class carriers carring 27 F/A-18 Super Hornets, 27 F/A-14 Tomcats and 27 F-35 JSF in each carrier.

Plus my 2000 RAH-66 Comanches

100, heh goodbye military budget!


Misteriously i read the post below posted this but it came up above!

Interesting idea, but I dont know how it works...it would help to explain it (I could test out my 254th or the 566th Legion Fleet orbiting NationStates World's newst Moon, Mertes, giant facility - partially roundish, created artificially, guarding a physics and space research facility as well as a Space dock/manufactirung plant there...)

Okay, let me explain in simplier terms as I am also confused. Simply, Choose ONE type of unit ( aircraft et cetera) and give a breif description. I shall then choice a unit (rubbish at first) for you to attack. You can get more 'Points' by either you having the element of suprise, me or neither of us. The better you do, the harder the units I send out get. Every 3 victorys, you can repair, refuel and reload your unit. Has that cleared things up at all?

Ok, let me explain a bit more. Say you wanted to test out your new, i don't know 'mig 2000' This is what you would say

Ok moleland, I wish to test out my mig 2000! It's an aircraft. Its armed with 45mm machine guns and 12 stinger missiles. Its topspeed is 1000mph and armour is 2 cm thick! I would like easy difficulty ie, I have the element of surprise.

Here, you have told me what type of unit, and things I needed to know about it. If you had done this I would now reply like so

Ok. your first opponant is a twf (Two wing fighter)
Topspeed: 600 mph
Armour: 1 mm
Strengths: Good at flying low
Weakness: really pathetic
AS you wanted the element of surprise, you can start the rp

I would then wait for you to start the story

The mig flys over the horizion, and fires a stinger at the twf.
(Rather rubbish but this is just a demo, ok?)

I would now reply

The twf is to slow to avoid the stinger and is blown to pieces. You win 100 points
Your next oppanant is et cetera...

Does that help you at all?

I really like this idea, it gives me a chance to bing some of my armour and troops out of mothballs for some good ol fashioned training. :mp5: Great idea M8.

I really like this idea, it gives me a chance to bing some of my armour and troops out of mothballs for some good ol fashioned training. Great idea M8.

Thankyou, would you like to have a go? Since when was I your mate (just joking)

bump

Kirata sneaks up behind Moleland with a fleet of MIAA's (Marine Intelligence and Attacking Apparatus), Floating in from the North Sea. With no military ships found to attack, they took their focus on pedestrian fishining boats and coastal structures...

(OOC What, are you practising or really having a war? Cause either way, you have done to impossible! Moleland is a land-locked nation, so unless you came up the river, then I advise you to remove your post and I will do the same to this one!)

Great Idea!


I'd like to test one of my Air Units.

vey well! Have you read the example I wrote? Tell me a little bit about your air unit, and whether you want the advantage of surprise or not etc, and Then i'll tell you your first 'enemy' is. Also, I've decided that you can sacrfice half of the points you win to reload and repair units between battles when the 'service' is not free!

Ok what sort of tech level are we talking here? my troops are quite high tech in some ways and bizarrely old fashioned ( to you eyes anyway) in others. By the way Mole a great quote you have there.

King James of the House of Beauchampe

Could I do one with a single Wraith (an elite spec ops guy)? I would like easy difficulty (element of surprise). I dont care about the terrain or anything. The Wraith will be armed with an Omega Tactical Rifle (silenced, infra red vision, night vision, flash suppressor), silenced Chauvinist Pistol, 2 grenades, some twine, and rations. He will be wearing a spec ops outfit to match the terrain (i.e. brownish for desert, green and brown for forest, etc.). Thank you....and this is a GREAT idea!

i have 3,000 firemen with 24 acid shooting fire trucks and 1,000 paramedics
armed with sarin nerve gas and m16's to go against your intire army i garenty i weeel win and if yo win i will give you a bozookea pistel




:fluffle: :sniper: :mp5: :headbang: :gundge: :fluffle:

i have 3,000 firemen with 24 acid shooting fire trucks and 1,000 paramedics
armed with sarin nerve gas and m16's to go against your intire army i garenty i weeel win and if yo win i will give you a bozookea pistel




:fluffle: :sniper: :mp5: :headbang: :gundge: :fluffle:




I'll take your offer i'll let you know that your army is statistically unable to even begin to mach mine. But I will accept your petty declaration of war!
Thank you and see you on the battlefield .
oh and I will be acceptably nice and not take your bazooka pistol though it is not real .
I will take great joy in destroying you eventhough it will only take 2 seconds.
(O.C.C. No allies please)

tag for later

I'd like to test my M1A5 King Abrams MBT against whatever you got.

Specs-
Top Speed-45 mph
Armament-120mm ETC gun; 1 7.62mm minigun, M134, coaxial; 1 .50 gattling gun, GAU19, mounted on roof, remotley controled; 1 7.62mm machinegun, M240, loader's weapon; 1 TOW2B missile pod.
Armor-Chobham III and depleted uranium armor. Capable of taking 5 hits from a ETC gun to the front armor, 2 to the side.

I've got more detailed specs, but you get the idea.

Just to clear up, it can be done as a war-game type of test, where no one actually dies right? I'm interested in testing out a unit or two, but if they get owned, I don't wanna lose 'em... heh.

I'd prefer if it was more of an actual war game as opposed to some sort of street fighter thing

I'd like to test my M1A5 King Abrams MBT against whatever you got.

Specs-
Top Speed-45 mph
Armament-120mm ETC gun; 1 7.62mm minigun, M134, coaxial; 1 .50 gattling gun, GAU19, mounted on roof, remotley controled; 1 7.62mm machinegun, M240, loader's weapon; 1 TOW2B missile pod.
Armor-Chobham III and depleted uranium armor. Capable of taking 5 hits from a ETC gun to the front armor, 2 to the side.

I've got more detailed specs, but you get the idea.

Perhaps it could go up against the MIG 1000 as thats obviously really a tank and is far too heavy to fly! :p

Ok what sort of tech level are we talking here? my troops are quite high tech in some ways and bizarrely old fashioned ( to you eyes anyway) in others. By the way Mole a great quote you have there.

King James of the House of Beauchampe

Future tech, but Some of my units will be really pathetic (ie: the twf for air units) I'm a bit buzy right now so i'll reply to other posts later on.

Just to clear up, it can be done as a war-game type of test, where no one actually dies right? I'm interested in testing out a unit or two, but if they get owned, I don't wanna lose 'em... heh.

What will happen is, you tell me your unit. I hook it to a machine that takes some scans, and then It is entered into a VR battleground. It is just like the real thing, except nobody dies etc. Once you have finished, your units details shall be removed. So, you interested

I'd prefer if it was more of an actual war game as opposed to some sort of street fighter thing

Fair point, I guess. But, if your unit gets a good score, it'll prove that your technology is the best won't it?

I'd like to test my M1A5 King Abrams MBT against whatever you got.

Specs-
Top Speed-45 mph
Armament-120mm ETC gun; 1 7.62mm minigun, M134, coaxial; 1 .50 gattling gun, GAU19, mounted on roof, remotley controled; 1 7.62mm machinegun, M240, loader's weapon; 1 TOW2B missile pod.
Armor-Chobham III and depleted uranium armor. Capable of taking 5 hits from a ETC gun to the front armor, 2 to the side.

I've got more detailed specs, but you get the idea.

Ok, but it might not be able to withstand to much damage against some of my better tank type units. Before we start, do you want to have the element of surprise?

I would like to send in an infantry lance (112 infantry) to fight later today.

3rd Inf lance, 3 battalion, first regiment
CO: Lieutenant O'Hara
Weapons: AK-47s, RPGs, RPDs, SVDs, various grenades
Training: Training and drilling at various Lasorian People's Liberation Army camps during civil war, more formal training received following LPLA takeover
Experience: One of the most famous fighting units of the civil war, fought in every major land battle in all 10 years of the civil war. Only unit to survive Tosha Valley battle

I would like to send in an infantry lance (112 infantry) to fight later today.

3rd Inf lance, 3 battalion, first regiment
CO: Lieutenant O'Hara
Weapons: AK-47s, RPGs, RPDs, SVDs, various grenades
Training: Training and drilling at various Lasorian People's Liberation Army camps during civil war, more formal training received following LPLA takeover
Experience: One of the most famous fighting units of the civil war, fought in every major land battle in all 10 years of the civil war. Only unit to survive Tosha Valley battle

Accepted. Please tell me, do you want the element of surprise, or not?

Could I do one with a single Wraith (an elite spec ops guy)? I would like easy difficulty (element of surprise). I dont care about the terrain or anything. The Wraith will be armed with an Omega Tactical Rifle (silenced, infra red vision, night vision, flash suppressor), silenced Chauvinist Pistol, 2 grenades, some twine, and rations. He will be wearing a spec ops outfit to match the terrain (i.e. brownish for desert, green and brown for forest, etc.). Thank you....and this is a GREAT idea!

Your challege is accepted!

Your first oppanant is... A mole guard (clone)

Strengths: Fearless, and tough.
Weaknesses: Stupid, and not that accurate.

The terrain type is barran, with a few random rocks to hide behind
As you want the element of surprise, off you go!

I'll take your offer i'll let you know that your army is statistically unable to even begin to mach mine. But I will accept your petty declaration of war!
Thank you and see you on the battlefield .
oh and I will be acceptably nice and not take your bazooka pistol though it is not real .
I will take great joy in destroying you eventhough it will only take 2 seconds.
(O.C.C. No allies please)

Sorry, but have you declared war on me? Do you realise that my nation is not actually on 'nationstates' Earth, but in different universe? So any real battle would be hard for you, and even if you can travel through space, you'd have to fight through my platforms and patrolling battle space craft and planets et cetera.
If you just want to practice then your challege is accepted. finally, by the size of your TINY nation, my army could wipe out your entire nation and claim it for ourselves! So, if you really have declared war, prepare to get your butt kicked!!!

Ok, but it might not be able to withstand to much damage against some of my better tank type units. Before we start, do you want to have the element of surprise?
Sure, why not. But lets make it a big open desert map, that's the terrain it operates best in.

Your challege is accepted!

Your first oppanant is... A mole guard (clone)

Strengths: Fearless, and tough.
Weaknesses: Stupid, and not that accurate.

The terrain type is barran, with a few random rocks to hide behind
As you want the element of surprise, off you go!

OOC: I cant start until Oct. 1...Im on restriction for not doing my chores....
:(

how can we do this...cuz i would like to try...write me a message :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :sniper: :sniper: :sniper:

Superpower wants to test a tank either

Name: drone tank
Weight: 90 kgs
Weapon: 20 mm gun
Armour: 12 mm titanium
Speed: 28 mph / 45 km/h
Acuracy: 65% and improving

The drone tank is a computer controlled tank with no connection to the outside world,
it will destroy or be destroyd

anyone interested? :)

I'm a bit busy at the moment, i'll reply later to your posts. please wait.

Sure, I'll take the element of surprise, and I guess I'll wait for you to fight the other peeps first.

very well! Don't bother waiting, I can stage several all at once. Your first oppanant is a unit (100 moles) of mole light infantry.

Strengths: Fearless, tough and loyal
Weaknesses: Stupid, poorly armed

The terrain is barran, with a few random rocks.

As you want the element of surprise, you can start!

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Sure, why not. But lets make it a big open desert map, that's the terrain it operates best in.

okay, the rocks have been removed off the map.

Your first enemy is:- A APC

Strengths: Fast and agile, accurate weapon
Weaknesses: poor armour.

You can start as you have the element of surprise.

okay, the rocks have been removed off the map.

Your first enemy is:- A APC

Strengths: Fast and agile, accurate weapon
Weaknesses: poor armour.

You can start as you have the element of surprise.
The tank sits out in a concealed position...

Lt. Franchi, the tank commander, spots a lone vehicle moving through the desert in the distance...

"Target spotted! Gunner, traverse left!"

The turret of the behemoth swung around, and lead the target the correct amount.

"Load steel!" yelled the gunner.

"Steel up!" replied the loader.

"Away!" he responded as the 120mm ETC gun broke the erie silence with a massive BOOM, and sent its round spiraling toward the unwary APC at a velocity of mach 5...

after this particular game i would like to place my new Mech into a war game


its a daishi sniper

5 packs of 20 LRM's
2 Light Gause Cannon's
2 ER Large Lasers
4 Machine Guns

Heavy armour in front, near impenitrable head armour
Weak back armour (opponents not meant to get that far)

I'd like to test out a platoon of my Royal Guards. Don't care about surprise, choice there is yours. I would prefer to use Forest or Mountain terrain if at all possible.

27th Royal Guard Infantry Platoon (42 soldiers)
CO: 1st Lieutenant John Anuko
2CO: Master Sergeant Xakuro Manatsi

1st Squad:
Fireteam A (6)
Fireteam B (6)

2nd Squad:
Fireteam C (6)
Fireteam D (6)

3rd Squad:
Fireteam E (6)
Fireteam F (6)

Command:
CO, 2CO
Fireteam G (4)

Standard Weapons: R-36 7.62mm Assault Rifles, R-7 12.7mm Handguns.
Special Weapons: x7 R-81 Sniper Rifles (14.5mm Armor-Piercing Fin-Stabilized High-Velocity rounds).

The tank sits out in a concealed position...

Lt. Franchi, the tank commander, spots a lone vehicle moving through the desert in the distance...

"Target spotted! Gunner, traverse left!"

The turret of the behemoth swung around, and lead the target the correct amount.

"Load steel!" yelled the gunner.

"Steel up!" replied the loader.

"Away!" he responded as the 120mm ETC gun broke the erie silence with a massive BOOM, and sent its round spiraling toward the unwary APC at a velocity of mach 5...

onboard the Apc

'Sensors detect an incoming projectile'

'WHAT?! Where from?'

'Don't know'

'Avoid it'

'We...'

The steel shot hit the apc, rocking it from side to side

'Damage report!'

'Heavy armour damage, nothing to serious, but another shot tlike that will finish us off!'

'Change direction, head for that tank! Arm the rocket laucher!'

'Sir'

after this particular game i would like to place my new Mech into a war game


its a daishi sniper

5 packs of 20 LRM's
2 Light Gause Cannon's
2 ER Large Lasers
4 Machine Guns

Heavy armour in front, near impenitrable head armour
Weak back armour (opponents not meant to get that far)

Your challege is accepted. However, what is a daishi sniper?
Do you want the element of surprise?

bump

Bump

I'd like to test out a platoon of my Royal Guards. Don't care about surprise, choice there is yours. I would prefer to use Forest or Mountain terrain if at all possible.

27th Royal Guard Infantry Platoon (42 soldiers)
CO: 1st Lieutenant John Anuko
2CO: Master Sergeant Xakuro Manatsi

1st Squad:
Fireteam A (6)
Fireteam B (6)

2nd Squad:
Fireteam C (6)
Fireteam D (6)

3rd Squad:
Fireteam E (6)
Fireteam F (6)

Command:
CO, 2CO
Fireteam G (4)

Standard Weapons: R-36 7.62mm Assault Rifles, R-7 12.7mm Handguns.
Special Weapons: x7 R-81 Sniper Rifles (14.5mm Armor-Piercing Fin-Stabilized High-Velocity rounds).

Ok, your challege is accepted. THE TERRAIN IS BARRAN WITH SOME RANDOM ROCKS!!!!

Your first oppanant is a unit light of infantry.

Strengths: tough, loyal and fearless
Weaknesses: Stupid.

I have decided, that neither of us will have the element of surprise.
You can start

if you've ever played mechwarrior 4 or any of the mechwarrior games, then u know what a daishi is. its a big robot that travels at a top speed of 25, each of its 100 missles (that launch all at once) have lock on capabilities, the ER large lasers clear the smoke from in front of my cockpit so that i can see where im aming at, and the others are for just in case someone gets to close. 2 hits from the missle barage will take down the most heavily armoured tanks up to date, the lasers can take out a battle ship in 1 hit. The daishi sniper is named that because it remains cloaked and as soon as the enemy gets within range it turns on its sensers and unloads hell on the enemy and generally gets the surprise. but it doesnt matter if i have surprise or not as long as i have the high ground.

impressive! I'll take your robot thingy as ab 'armour'
Neither of us will ahev the element of surprise

Your first oppanant is an APC

Strengths: Fast and agile
Weaknesses: Poor armour

you can start

BUMP, busy right now, will post later.

"just a little further," said the pilot of the Daishi from his perch on the hill.

"thats it, and NOW!!!" as he spoke the final words he launched all missles from the bays, the entire front of the giant mech opened up and 100 missles pour out the launchers and rain hell upon the enemy APC,.

As the missles fly through the air they begin to twist towards their target and finally lock on about 300 yards away and track the APC.

onboard the Apc

'Sensors detect an incoming projectile'

'WHAT?! Where from?'

'Don't know'

'Avoid it'

'We...'

The steel shot hit the apc, rocking it from side to side

'Damage report!'

'Heavy armour damage, nothing to serious, but another shot tlike that will finish us off!'

'Change direction, head for that tank! Arm the rocket laucher!'

'Sir'
OOC:He would've been dead before he even knew he was being shot at, but whatever.

"Target is still standing, fininsh him!" yelled the commander.

"Steel up!"

"Away!" another round went spiraling toward the crippled APC...

OOC: My tech is in advance of yours. So my armour can take that anyway

IC: 'That tank has fired again!'

'Stand by for im...'

The steel shot blew a huge hole in the front of APC, but did not destroy it.
The huge explosion was followed by the scream of the driver as his body was blown into several pieces,

'We have lost power, I suggest we abandon the APC'

'Is our weaponary working?'

'Yes sir'

'Are we in range of the tank'

'Yes sir'

'Return fire!'

The rocket laucher was fired, a hopeless gesture of revenge. The 90mm rocket was sent on it's way...'

"just a little further," said the pilot of the Daishi from his perch on the hill.

"thats it, and NOW!!!" as he spoke the final words he launched all missles from the bays, the entire front of the giant mech opened up and 100 missles pour out the launchers and rain hell upon the enemy APC,.

As the missles fly through the air they begin to twist towards their target and finally lock on about 300 yards away and track the APC.

Sir, you won't beleieve this but we have 100 missile locks on us'

'WHAT?'

'That is correct'

'Abandon the APC! That's an ord...'

His instructions came to late. The apc was blown to pieces by the sheer numbers of missles

Well done you have destroyed your first oppanant. You have been awarded 200 points! You may spend 100 points in repairing and/or reloading your unit.

Your next oppanant is a 'Fromidable' class tank.

Strengths: Fast
Weaknesses: Weak armour

You can start once more

Ooc. Two shots from tank to APC? No way APC would survive.
But if it would from first shot. A rocket could destroy the tank.

Edit.

Btw. I may test my Gripen [Air Force Fighter], if it's possible.

Nireva, my tech level is future tech. Yes, I agree, a normal APC would not survive. But mine has a different sort of armour. If you notice, It is almost destroyed.

The rocket may not destroy the tank. If has any decent armour, then it will survive it.

bump

Ooc. Two shots from tank to APC? No way APC would survive.
But if it would from first shot. A rocket could destroy the tank.

Edit.

Btw. I may test my Gripen [Air Force Fighter], if it's possible.
OK then, that is possible to test your fighter.

Do you (I always seem to ask this) want the element of surprise?

i dont resupply yet, i do however put more missles in the launchers as i have a decent supply wit me. i would like this next battle to be done in the same type of terrain, me on hill, you on road beneath...

this time im gonna be cloaked in trees, barely visible. trees should hinder the tank and stop me from launching at min 50 missles. ill lie in wait for tank 2,000 yards off road.

OOC: My tech is in advance of yours. So my armour can take that anyway

IC: 'That tank has fired again!'

'Stand by for im...'

The steel shot blew a huge hole in the front of APC, but did not destroy it.
The huge explosion was followed by the scream of the driver as his body was blown into several pieces,

'We have lost power, I suggest we abandon the APC'

'Is our weaponary working?'

'Yes sir'

'Are we in range of the tank'

'Yes sir'

'Return fire!'

The rocket laucher was fired, a hopeless gesture of revenge. The 90mm rocket was sent on it's way...'
OOC:I ignore future tech, I said I'm using modern tech, so use it or I'll quit.

"WTF?!?!! Why isn't he dead!?" yelled the commander, as the missiles streaked toward the tank. The missiles hit, but did no damage to the thick front armor. "Kill the all!"

With that, another round was fired, as well as the coaxial minigun, and the roof mounter .50 cal.

OK then, that is possible to test your fighter.

Do you (I always seem to ask this) want the element of surprise?

Just asking.
How it could be possible the element of surprise in AIR?
It may can hide from some radars. But it can be seen with eyes.
What's the opponent?
I can start. But it's still not a surprise.
I'll try to make it that way.

OOC:I ignore future tech, I said I'm using modern tech, so use it or I'll quit.

"WTF?!?!! Why isn't he dead!?" yelled the commander, as the missiles streaked toward the tank. The missiles hit, but did no damage to the thick front armor. "Kill the all!"

With that, another round was fired, as well as the coaxial minigun, and the roof mounter .50 cal.

OOC: You were told that i was future tech. This will surely test your machines to the limit??? Are you sure you want to quit???

IC: The final round finished the APC off.

Well done! you have destroyed your first oppanant. you have scored 100 points. Do you wish to reload and or repair your unit? (This will cost you 50 points)

Your next oppanant is a 'Fromidable' class tank.

Strengths: Fast
Weaknesses: Weak armour

You can start once more

Yatsumica, you can start.

a good point Nireva, a good point. Your first enemy is a twf (Read the example for specs)

You can start and neither of us will have the element of surprise.

i wish to test my stealth panther heavy battle tank im future tech

I accept... dispite your reputation...

Your first oppanant is the APC

Do you want surprise or not?

Ooc.. Hm..

"Hey. HQ. I'm detecting movement on the radar.. One of ours?" pilot asked.
"Not one of ours.. Destroy it." HQ said.
"Roger. Shit! It detected me! Locking missiles to target.. Damn.. Hold still.. Hold still."
"Can you handle it?"
"It's flying low. But I should make it easily."
"Missile locked..
Fox-3!"

One missile was launched against other plane.

"I'll stay behind it, if it survives.. I'll shoot it with minigun then.."
"[I]Roger."

Ooc. If your pilot can't use countermeasures, sad thing.. For you. :p

OOC: The twf is rubbish, so your fighter should out run it etc easily.

IC: The missile streaked towards it's target. The pilot on board, not used to flying the out-dated twf was unable to avoid it.
It is destroyed (not hard that really now, was it?)

You have won, and collect 200 points. You can use 100 of them reloaded and repairing your craft.

Your next oppanant is the average fighter

Strengths: Fast, and very agile
Weaknesses: Weak armour.

You can start again!

Your next oppanant is the average fighter

Strengths: Fast, and very agile
Weaknesses: Weak armour.

You can start again!

Ooc. Repair? Oh. Was there some pigeon who crashed to Gripen? Oh dear..
Well. Reload.. One missile. :/
I guess I don't need those points. So I godmod-reload it . :p

Ic.
"HQ, it's destroyed."
"[I]Good. Return to base."
"Roger.. Hey. Wait. I'm detecting.. Something.."
"I see it from here. It's.. Another.. Fighter."
"I take care from that one too?"
"Yes. Of course."
"Roger..

I'm close..
Locking missiles..

Shit! Spotted me!
Lock them.. Lock them now..

Locked.

Fox-2!"
"Follow it. Be sure it's destroyed."
"Yes, sir."

One missile was launched to fighter. [Just like always, I'm not wasting my "expensive" missiles.] :p

-100 points then.

IC: 'Alpha 1, incoming missile' However, the agile Average fighter, with the good pilot did some evasive flying and was just able to dodge the missile. The pilot swung round and at full speed approached the fighter...

IC: 'Alpha 1, incoming missile' However, the agile Average fighter, with the good pilot did some evasive flying and was just able to dodge the missile. The pilot swung round and at full speed approached the fighter...

Actually. With that way, the missile would be really hard to dodge.
With countermeasures it would be pretty easy.

"HQ! It dodged the missile! Firing minigun!"
"Roger."

The minigun song a sing, many rounds, and when Gripen had to get out from a way, it moved up.

"I guess the pilot is dead. Or plane crashes.. From miniguns."
"Hope so."

The pilot turned the Gripen, and was after the other fighter.
Pilot kept firing with minigun, and launched another missile..

Ooc: The internally mounted 27mm Mauser high-energy gun can operate in an automatic radar-guided aiming mode.

:: tag ::

(I've got 1 fighter. it's 1 on 1)

The bullets deflected off the armour, they hit the windsheild and started to crack it.

'Alpha 1, don't be a sitting duck. Avoid those bullets and return fire.'

The pilot armed his lasers and fired successive shots at the gripton. However, A fluke hit from one of the bullets damaged the engines, and the fighter went spinning into the ground.

Good job! You've defeated your second enemy. That 's an extra 400 points, meaning your total is now 500. You may spend 200 repairing etc...

Your third enemy is the Turbo laser fighter.

Strengths: Strong armour and powerful laser
Weaknesses: Slow, and not that agile

Off you go again.

Good job! You've defeated your second enemy. That 's an extra 400 points, meaning your total is now 500. You may spend 200 repairing etc...

Your third enemy is the Turbo laser fighter.

Strengths: Strong armour and powerful laser
Weaknesses: Slow, and not that agile

Ooc. Gonna be hard, as I'm modern tech [No lasers.. :p ]
And I meant with other fighter, I meant your fighter, not mine, and I knew it was 1 on 1.
Ic.
"I'm returning to base."
"Roger."

Pilot returned.
The plane was refueled, rearmed, and repaired.

"This is HQ, we're detecting another plane."
"I'm going."

1 minute later, pilot was ready and flying towards.

"What's that..?"
"I don't know."
"It's quite big. Can't be fast. Going high.."

Pilot was over the TLF, and then lower.. Behind the TLF.

"I'm firing two missiles.."
"Roger. I'd suggest to fire your minigun too."
"Sure. I'll fire with it too.. But. I cannot see any missiles in it."
"I can't either. But somekinda energyfield was launched from there when you flew higher. Missed you."
"Lasers? Great..

Missiles locked & launched.."

Ooc. This is bit surprise.. I think. But can't use same way all the time..

ooc: -200 points then

'Gamma 1! look out, incoming missile! Gamma 1! Incoming missile!'

'Great' The pilot though, '2 missiles'


The missiles hit the fighter, causing serious hull damage. The pilot fought the fighter, and turned it round, bringing it's Turbo laser round to bear down on the fighter.

It fired 5 shots, before (again) a fluke hit damaged the fighters flight control system. It was going down on a collision course with the ground...

It fired 5 shots, before (again) a fluke hit damaged the fighters flight control system. It was going down on a collision course with the ground...

Ooc. Guess the aiming isn't very good.

"What are those?"
"Lasers.."
"OH SHIT!"

Right after, one hitted, not badly.

"Took one!"
"Going down?"
"No. No.. Hard do keep this in air.. But shouldn't fall.. Woah! That was close!"
"Is it falling?"
"Yes. Shit! Took another.. Losing fuel..!"
"Emergencylanding to here! Can you make it?"
"Guess so.. Clear it!"
"Roger."

The pilot managed to land Gripen safely, but it really needs repairs now..

'Gamma 1! Pull up, pull up!!'


'I can't. Flight con...'

As he said this, the fighter crashed into the ground.

Your're doing well. but don't get too excited! Those were the easy ones.. 800 points, meaning your total is now 1100. You are lucky because, you get a free service. Repair your gripton and fight your next enemy!!!

Mega fighter! (Sheilds)

Strengths: Fast and VERY agile
Weaknesses: Can a bit too agile for it's own good.

Have fun, you can start!

SOrry to interupt but id like to join in later.

1 orange state infantry squad

10 orange state troopers.
1 has a misile launcher with 6 anti tank missiles
Standard infantry of Orange state.

Future tech.

Wears Mk2 power armour (fully enclosed and offering an effective protection of about 300-500mm depending where hit. Eyeslits are a weakspot to most weapons with more penetrating power than modern tech small arms, the rest takes a little work)
A extremely sharp monomolecular blade for melee
A few plasma grenades (3 each)
A 20mm pulse cannon, a precision enginnered (and not man portable without powered armour and superhuman strength) weapon designed to eliminate heavy infantry such as (and more advanced than) themselves. It has an improved, precisely designed and timed (with better proppelant and coatings as well as more efficient timing and enginnering) AFDSabot type shell, that offers about 8 times the effective penetration modern rounds use (the 20mm shell penetrates 800mm at 400m and more at point blank). Its only 20mm though, so it cant take out tanks or anything (maybe modern ones from behind at close range) It also uses depleted uranium shells as enclosed suits and genetic modification make the troops pretty radiation resistant.
It also has standard 20mm shells for other infantry. The AP shell is designed to coma apart like normal ones on leaving the barrel; but as it is desinged specifically for the gun and exists in a highly advanced society with more rpecise manufacture, discards the fins on leaving the barrel almost instantly, also less momentum is kept by the fins and mire by the shell etc... its litterally a version of MT tech tweaked in a way that we could ever manage with our technology.


Genetically modified and trained from birth, the stand 7 feet high and taller and have enhanced reflexes, aim and healing as well as strength. The armour is linked to nervous activity and the brain through an implant that reads the brain activity and so react like second skin, it tooks years of research (obviously very inhumane) to determine what the different signals meant. But its a pretty awesome system now it works. Our soldiers are technically part cyborg too. But not in a big way... just that and the ability to read their armour status...

Please dont be too shocked (opr cry godmod). I favour the elite approach to my armies and these guys cost $3 million each, plus about $600000 per year in maintaining and supporting them. (combat conditions) I'll go in on the medium setting. That way its equal and so your troops cant instantly kill me later on before i react, and I can earn my points, unlike the first on easy.

OOC:Fear them, for they are many... (thats a lie.. they arent they are few)

Excuse the essay but thats the explanation. I can refer people here when our FT RP kicks off too...

Mega fighter! (Sheilds)

Strengths: Fast and VERY agile
Weaknesses: Can a bit too agile for it's own good.

Have fun, you can start!

Ooc. Woo.. Scary?

"Lets go to patrol again. I'm detecting.. Something."
"Fine."

Minute later.

"Woo. Scarylooking. Woah! It's.. Fast!"
"Can't escape from minigun. Right?"
"We'll see that."
"Get behind it. And fire missiles. And minigun."
"Roger that.

Can't get behind. It's fast."
"Lock the missiles then.. We'll won't fire behind then."
"Roger..

Locked.
Fox-3! Fox-2!
What's that.. My.. Minigun doesen't make too much damage to it.."
"I'm detecting energyfield."
"Shit. Shields.. Great.. What next? Death Star from Star Wars?" but pilot kept firing the minigun. And launched 1 more missile.
"Hm.. I'm going down.. Let's see how good the pilot is.."
"Hey! Don't blow Gripen yourself!"
"Don't you trust me?"


Ooc.
Gripen is fast too [Can't you spell it right? :p ]

OOC: sorry! For some random reason I thought that 'Gripen' had a T in it...

The bullets hit the sheilds and were deflected easily.
'Sheilds holding at 95%'
'Alpha 1 incoming missile!'
The pilot chuckled. 'No sheilds' He thought, 'To people can play at this game'
The missile hit his fighter. 'Sheilds holding at 68%'
He switched his mega fighter to porton torpedoes. Beep, beep beep, BEEEPPP went the targeting computer as a lock was made. 'Firing torpedo!'

(The proton torpedo homes for up to 60 seconds, and is slightly faster than you)

SOrry to interupt but id like to join in later.

1 orange state infantry squad

10 orange state troopers.
1 has a misile launcher with 6 anti tank missiles
Standard infantry of Orange state.

Future tech.

Wears Mk2 power armour (fully enclosed and offering an effective protection of about 300-500mm depending where hit. Eyeslits are a weakspot to most weapons with more penetrating power than modern tech small arms, the rest takes a little work)
A extremely sharp monomolecular blade for melee
A few plasma grenades (3 each)
A 20mm pulse cannon, a precision enginnered (and not man portable without powered armour and superhuman strength) weapon designed to eliminate heavy infantry such as (and more advanced than) themselves. It has an improved, precisely designed and timed (with better proppelant and coatings as well as more efficient timing and enginnering) AFDSabot type shell, that offers about 8 times the effective penetration modern rounds use (the 20mm shell penetrates 800mm at 400m and more at point blank). Its only 20mm though, so it cant take out tanks or anything (maybe modern ones from behind at close range) It also uses depleted uranium shells as enclosed suits and genetic modification make the troops pretty radiation resistant.
It also has standard 20mm shells for other infantry. The AP shell is designed to coma apart like normal ones on leaving the barrel; but as it is desinged specifically for the gun and exists in a highly advanced society with more rpecise manufacture, discards the fins on leaving the barrel almost instantly, also less momentum is kept by the fins and mire by the shell etc... its litterally a version of MT tech tweaked in a way that we could ever manage with our technology.


Genetically modified and trained from birth, the stand 7 feet high and taller and have enhanced reflexes, aim and healing as well as strength. The armour is linked to nervous activity and the brain through an implant that reads the brain activity and so react like second skin, it tooks years of research (obviously very inhumane) to determine what the different signals meant. But its a pretty awesome system now it works. Our soldiers are technically part cyborg too. But not in a big way... just that and the ability to read their armour status...

Please dont be too shocked (opr cry godmod). I favour the elite approach to my armies and these guys cost $3 million each, plus about $600000 per year in maintaining and supporting them. (combat conditions) I'll go in on the medium setting. That way its equal and so your troops cant instantly kill me later on before i react, and I can earn my points, unlike the first on easy.

OOC:Fear them, for they are many... (thats a lie.. they arent they are few)

Excuse the essay but thats the explanation. I can refer people here when our FT RP kicks off too...

I won't cry God mode!

Challege accepted.

Your first oppanant is A light infantry unit (1000)

Strengths: Loyal, tough and fearless
Weaknesses: Stupid

You can start.

The bullets hit the sheilds and were deflected easily.
'Sheilds holding at 95%'
'Alpha 1 incoming missile!'
The pilot chuckled. 'No sheilds' He thought, 'To people can play at this game'
The missile hit his fighter. 'Sheilds holding at 68%'
He switched his mega fighter to porton torpedoes. Beep, beep beep, BEEEPPP went the targeting computer as a lock was made. 'Firing torpedo!'

(The proton torpedo homes for up to 60 seconds, and is slightly faster than you)

Ooc. Guess it's pretty big. As pilot have to go comp.
And guess the proton torpedos are heatseeking? Or radar?

Ic.
"Did the.. Fighter launch something?"
"Yeah. Sensors are detecting somekinda missile."
"Countermeasures?"
"Sure. Should be enough. If isn't. I'll just lose it."
"Good."
"Launchíng countermeasures.. Five.. Four.. Three.. Two.. One!"

Chaff and flare decoy dispensers was launched.
And missile blew into flare.
Gripen didn't took any damage what would be noticed in air.

"You still have lock to target?"
"Um.. Yes."
"Fire your 3 missiles. And keep firing with your minigun. And fly low."
"Sure.. My turn.. If those missiles won't do it.. I'm having trouble. Just 3 missiles would be left."

Three missiles were launched.
And pilot fired couple bursts with minigun, then turned bit down.
He's gonna keep low.

Ooc. Gripen has 2 flare & chaff packs. [1 used now].
And now I'm going to read biologytests.

OOC: My missiles (and torpedoes) all have small targeting computers that track their targets. However, if it crashed into a flare, it would explode!

IC: 'Alpha 1 incoming missile! Alpha 1 incoming missile! Alpha 1! incoming missile'

3 missiles? thought the pilot. fun.

He attampted to dodge the missiles by dodging at tlast moment. The first one hit. 'Sheilds holding at 40%' The other 2 missed by a few miilimetres.

The minigun bullets began to hit. the pilot flipped the mega fighter around in a loop and found himself behind the gripon. 'Sheilds holding at 37%'

'You want to fly low?' said the pilot to himself, 'Don't crash into the ground now'

He switched the weaponry system to ion cannons and fired 15 shots of the blue laser at the gripon

(Ion cannons disable a craft. They don't damage it, they drain it's energy, making imobile. In atmospheric conditions, it wll make you crash.)

We would, at some point, like to test one of our typical ground-combat teams against your testing gauntlet. Bear in mind that these are merely typical units, not standard; our ground pilots have great latitude in the design of their craft's superstructure. Hereby submitted:

Typical Neralliite Ground Combat Team "Painbringers"

Two Heavy Hexapod Assault Platforms:
Heavy-1 ("Gutripper"): Cockpit, engine, ammunition storage, and reactor all offset to starboard, leaving port side clear for mobile unit EM accelerator cannon and autoloader.
Heavy-2 ("Mercy"): Cockpit, engine, and ammunition storage on centerline, flanked by port and starboard 120mm mobile unit autocannon feeding from two common ammunition stores.
Common Secondary Armament: One rotary machine gun in remote-controlled turret mount, above and behind cockpit.
Armor: Patchwork of steel and composite, partially overlaid with reactive armor tiles for extra protection of vital areas.
Top Speed: 30 MPH, assuming everything works.

Three Medium Hexapod Combat Platforms:
Medium-1 ("Reaper"): Humanoid torso on pivot in center of platform, arms consisting of a rotary machine gun on a fixed pylon, port and starboard, capable of linked elevation and limited counter-linked traverse; ammunition drums on rear of torso, feeding through arms. Cockpit in center torso, no head.
Medium-2 ("Assassin"): Looks to have been converted from a civilian excavator, with the backhoe replaced by a 90mm autocannon and a sponson-mounted remote-controlled machine gun added behind and outboard of the cabin.
Medium-3 ("Flenser"): Perhaps the strangest of the lot, this unit seems to mount the sawed-off fuselage of an aerofighter with a helicopter gunship's stub wings attached on the standard medium chassis and center pivot; however, it does pack a respectable armament, in the form of two 20mm tribarrel rotary autocannon, two 19-tube 2.75-inch dumbfire rocket launchers, and eight fire-and-forget anti-tank missiles, as well as possessing a limited short-hop tactical flight capability.
Armor: Anywhere from duralumin to composite, with the occasional area of reactive plating.
Top Speed: If everything's working properly, 45 MPH. Medium-3 can achieve ~100 MPH for a maximum of 30 seconds before expending all jump booster fuel.

(OOC: Relatively near-future, but a nation with entry restrictions less strict than those of the French Foreign Legion. Tends to attract a rough element, but also gets them plenty of tinkerers and the like. Heavies got nothing but elevation on main armament.)

as tank approaches the road ahead of the forested hill, it can detect a faint heat source coming from spot on hill (if has heat raidar).

"charging Gause Lasers and ER Large Lasers for intercept of the tank."
'roger delta, stay with course of action'

as tank gets closer all 4 heavy lasers are set off, with the ER's burning path through the trees to do minimal damage to the tank and the Gause following in their path to do massive damage.

im also gonna see if i can enlist my fighter planes in these games.

its a blade class fighter.. its in the shape of a stealth bomber but its outlined in a fine energy which works as a kind of blade

strengths: fast, agile, deadly to touch, immune to bullets
weakness: missles still damage(but do half do to energyfield),weak against lasers

OOC:As in 1000 infantry? Im only deploying 10 men... If thats still the case... then meh! 1000 of you, 10 of me... i shall have to be inventive and confuse them!


The squad spotted them and the sergeant barked his orders.

" stay low, squaddies, stay wired in!", gesturing to the corproal and five men, men, go left and stay at a good distance, (ie out of range) " get behind those rocks, we will go right and do the same,"

The squad began running to their hiding places. They might have been big but they moved faster than you would expect for the amount of armour they wore, moving more like professional athletes (they could have any olypian for breakfast without armour, and their armour doesnt weigh them down too much) the bolted for the rocks trying to move between rocks.

They kicked up a large amount of dust and noise but ran for seven hundred metres away and bloted for their rocks which were slightly closer (more in the range of their weapons) the dust betrayed their position but made it hard to spot numbers or even what they were. (they are big guys running at about 10 mph+ accross desert in 100KG of motorised armour!)

If the numbers of my men will change then ignore this post, I will use a different tactic.

OOC: My missiles (and torpedoes) all have small targeting computers that track their targets. However, if it crashed into a flare, it would explode!

IC: 'Alpha 1 incoming missile! Alpha 1 incoming missile! Alpha 1! incoming missile'

3 missiles? thought the pilot. fun.

He attampted to by dodgdodge the missiles ing at tlast moment. The first one hit. 'Sheilds holding at 40%' The other 2 missed by a few miilimetres.

The minigun bullets began to hit. the pilot flipped the mega fighter around in a loop and found himself behind the gripon. 'Sheilds holding at 37%'

'You want to fly low?' said the pilot to himself, 'Don't crash into the ground now'

He switched the weaponry system to ion cannons and fired 15 shots of the blue laser at the gripon

(Ion cannons disable a craft. They don't damage it, they drain it's energy, making imobile. In atmospheric conditions, it wll make you crash.)

Ooc. Actually, I did know that, and blew is blow on imperfect [Spelling right?]
Um. If they would disable the craft totally, it should be #1 weapon. As it disables the shields and all.
And energydraining its.. Bit hard in atmospher. I'll just keep that as an EMP. [Breaks all computers].

"Oh shit! EMP!"
Higher.. Higher.. Before they hit..
"Taking 2nd powerlines out. I think I can use them after EMP's hitted.."
"Roger. We'll lose our communication in that.."
"I know.. Cya.. I'm not sure do I survive from this.."

Powers offline.
12 lasers hitted. Damaging a bit plane , nothing serious, just scratches.

[I]I think they hitted me now.. First powerlines.. On. Work.. Work..
Power came to the fighter. But just for a while.
Shit! Well.. I still got 2nd.. But if that doesen't work.. I have to eject...

Power came to the fighter. Not fully. Smallrange radar is working. But longrange radar is broken.. Automated minigun isn't working [He can shoot it manually, but not by radar]. One of missiles is broken. [But pilot doesen't know that.]
I'm gonna revenge that one..

"HQ? Can you hear this?"
"Mul.. Aliv..?"
"Shit."

Pilot turned the plane.

"Byebye now.. Oh shit.. Even missiles can't be locked! Manually that too then, huh?"
"First missile.. Launched.
Second.. Launched.
Third.. Launched.
Minigun.. Kiss it."

The missiles can still hit, becose they are heatseeking, not used by radar.
And even the third is heatseeking, but it won't explode when it hits.

Ooc. The third is the broken one. :rolleyes:

OOC: I need to test my new space fleet and I'd like to face off one of my capital ships against another ship. Heres the scematics of it and the fighters in its bays.

SHADAUM-CLASS IMPERIAL CRUISER

NAME/TYPE: Shadaum I-class Imperial Cruiser
DESIGNER/MANUFACTURER: Markus Maxim/Daniala Dezcuvo
COMBAT DESIGNATION: Heavy Destroyer
LENGTH: 900 meters
CREW: 4798; 402 gunners
PASSENGERS: 2,040 troops
SPEED RATING: 40 MGLT (Light Years) Space/800 kph Atmosphere
HYPERDRIVE: x1
HULL RATING: 1520 RD (resistance of damage)
SHIELD RATING: 3200 SRD (shield resistance of damage)
CONSUMABLES: 4 years supplies
WEAPONS: 10 Maxim Quad Turbo-laser Batteries;
40 Maxim Turbo laser Batteries
80 Maxim Concussion Missile Tubes;

STARFIGHTER SQUADRONS: 2 Fighter Squadrons (150 fighters)

PLANETARY ASSAULT TROOPS: 10 Ultima class battle tanks;
15 scout walkers; 5 pre-fab fortresses

OTHER ONBOARD CRAFT: 4 Victory-Class Thrashian Imperial Shuttles

What it looks like (http://home.wlu.edu/~overholtzerc/swguides/images/vsdschm.jpg)


THRASHIAN SPACE FIGHTER SWIFT-CLASS

NAME/TYPE: Swift-Class Space Fighter
DESIGNER/MANUFACTURER: Markus Maxim/ Danaila Shipyards
COMBAT DESIGNATION: Combat Fighter
LENGTH: 12 meters
CREW: 1 Pilot/ 1st Class Gunner
SPEED RATING: No Hyperdrive Capabilities/ Top Speed 1000 KPH
HULL RATING: 600 RD
SHEILD RATING: 500 SRD
CONSUMABLES: 10 hours oxygen supply
WEAPONS: 2 Maxim Quad Turbo Laser Batteries
10 Maxim Concussion Missiles

What it looks like (http://artships.com/2001/manta_front.jpg)


OOC: Basicly its gonna be fought with blanks in a way. All lasers are set to a disable setting allowing the ships they kit to temporarily loose power meaning its dead. Missiles won't fire but as soon as a firing solution is made then that qualifys as a kill. Sheilds will stay up until certain numbers of laser shots have been made at it. Once a fighter is downed then it will return to its bays where the pilot will be debreifed as to what he did. After the battle both sides will get together to look at scores and to brag then go out and order pizza. Anyone inerested? :)

This is my responce to orange state

Some of the troops noticed the dust and shouted responces like 'You their stop where you are!' and 'You aren't authorised in this area' 'Set blasters to kill!'

When the dust settle, they weren't intelligent enough to stay low. Most of them walked towards the rocks which to troops were hiding behind.

'Did anyone see where they went??'...

im also gonna see if i can enlist my fighter planes in these games.

its a blade class fighter.. its in the shape of a stealth bomber but its outlined in a fine energy which works as a kind of blade

strengths: fast, agile, deadly to touch, immune to bullets
weakness: missles still damage(but do half do to energyfield),weak against lasers

Challenge accepted!

Your first oppanant is the twf (see example for specs) Do you want surprise?

the stealth panther activated it's cloaking dievice and fired up on the apc with it's pulse cannon.
no suprise

For Nireva

'Alpha 1 in coming missile' 'Alpha 1 incoming missile!' 'Alpha 1 incoming missile'

3 missiles? How many does this thing have? Thought the pilot.

he armed his lasers and fired at the missiles. He was too slow to stop the first one, but destroyed the other 2.

'Sheilds holding 20%'

'Play time is over. Prepare to die.'

The pilot matched the Gripon's speed and fired several laser shots into the rear of the gripon.

arghh sephiroth ill catch up later

For Sephrioth

'Some cloaked veichle has suddenly appeared! They have fired on us'

(How powerful is this pulse cannon (how many mm of armour can it break through. I shall continue my responce when you have this information.)

2000MG and 20 mm of armour will be destroyed

OOC: Ok thanks

The pulse cannon hit APC, but it's armour was able to deflect it.

'Our armour is taking a battering sir!'
'Swing us round, and fire back with the rocket laucher!'

The Apc turned round and fired the 90mm rocket at the panthar...

'raise the shields' activate point defence lasers and aim 10 hornet mini nukes at the apc.

OOC: Nukes??? great... How powerful are these nukes???

Respond to my rocket please.

the rocket was detonated by the point defence lasers
ooc 2 kt each

How much armour is that???

ooc alot
Ic ''fire the hornets now'' the gunner said. the ten hornet mini nuke flew out of the missile launcher at molelands apc

OOC: I actually wanted a prsise number, but oh well...

The nukes hit the apc, and it's thin armour could not resist them. It was destroyed.

Your have defeated your first oppanant. 200 points. You may spend 100 points reloaded and repairing your unit.

Your next oppanant is the 'formidible' class tank.

you can start.

i want to test my 1st mountain division:
infantry:12000 men
weapons:assault guns,grenade launcher,anti-tank weapons,machineguns and grenade-machineguns

i wish to reload my tank with 50 ifit class anti tank missilliles

-100 points then

OOC: sorry the school internet has filitered your messege out (denied list questionable words.) Could you repost it, and delete your old one???

i want to test my 1st mountain division:
infantry:12000 men
weapons:assault guns,grenade launcher,anti-tank weapons,machineguns and grenade-machineguns
strentgh:mobile,small combat groups,fast ,good in hard environment
weak:aircrafts,open spaces

I can't read your messege ieither. i can only read 'quote'

Then comes 'Symatic
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i wish to hold

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Sorry! I'll have to continue this when I get home! It's still doing it

This is my responce to orange state

Some of the troops noticed the dust and shouted responces like 'You their stop where you are!' and 'You aren't authorised in this area' 'Set blasters to kill!'

When the dust settle, they weren't intelligent enough to stay low. Most of them walked towards the rocks which to troops were hiding behind.

'Did anyone see where they went??'...
As the troops moved to the dust, the order reverberated round their comms links (direct into brain feed, so its pretty quiet..)

The troops on both sides of the enemy force hurled a grenade into the moleland troops. Before the moleland warriors could duck the troops stuck their heads above the rocks and each one fired a clip into the moleland troops.

OOC: As they were light infantry we are talking fragmentation shells (20mm) the plasma grenades have blast about equal to standard grenades but heat up an area around it too.

Blaster rifles? So they can damage our armour, but (will)might take a few hits on the same spot to breach it. If they had MT guns they'd be left hoping to hit the eyes. Lasers aren the best anti personnel weapons, as they burn a hole and cause tissue damage around it, but no bleeding or anything. But they can be used effectively against armour. Id say you have good flexible light infantry there. If not intellegent.

I assume your response will happen about halfway through my post if you know what i mean.

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sorry orange state

OOC: I can read your post orange state!!!! PRAISE THE LORD!!!

The grenades exploded, taking the soliders by surprise. They blew up about 5o of them before they even reacted.

As the Orange state troops emptied there clips, a few more moles (25) fell, most of them already wounded by the grenades.

'There they are! STOP THEM!' yelled the troops.

The troops raised there blasters and fired 2 shots each (That's roughly 1,800 between all your troops).

They contiued to advance towards the rocks...

bump

For Nireva

'Alpha 1 in coming missile' 'Alpha 1 incoming missile!' 'Alpha 1 incoming missile'

3 missiles? How many does this thing have? Thought the pilot.

he armed his lasers and fired at the missiles. He was too slow to stop the first one, but destroyed the other 2.

'Sheilds holding 20%'

'Play time is over. Prepare to die.'

The pilot matched the Gripon's speed and fired several laser shots into the rear of the gripon.

"Woo! Scary, you are? Nice try. But.. I'm just too fast. Wops.. That hitted.. Wherewherewhere.. Oh.. Sorry, bad luck for you. You got missiles! my I don't have any there! Now. I'm gonna pay back for trying to destroy me. With the damn minigun. I really do not want to use my small nuclear missile to you! Don't you get it? I don't want! So don't make me give one!"
"U.. Nuc.. Ow!"
"Um. I think HQ can hear me.. U.. Use? Nuc.. Nuclear.. Now? Ooh. I don't want to."
"D.. NOW!"
"Okay okay.. But. I cannot lock it.. So it might miss.. Well. I got detonator here too.. When it's close..
Arming Nuclear Missile..
Armed.
Finding target..
..
Good bye."
Pilot opened channel with the other pilot. [Yours, not mine]

"Enjoy my gift. You really tried to destroy my Gripen! Do you have any idea how much these things cost? With missiles too! But well. Bye."

The small nuclear missile was launched, and minigun was fired too.

"If this won't do. I really cannot take you. Unless your shields go down. Then I do have a chance."

Ooc. That's really the last, and it's really SMALL ONE [Miscounted the used missiles with max. missiles]. And if it misses, it'll detonate by pilot. When missile is near you.
Well. This is somekinda match with pilots, usually Gripen would have no chance against it, but one of our best pilots seems to be enough good with it.

And, as my Gripen doesen't have any shields, I need to overpower it a bit.
To make it more even. [Moderntech vs. Future?]

'Alpha 1!!! incoming large projectile'

The pilot panicked. He armed a torpedo and fired it the missile. It exploded iches away for the mega fighter 'SHIELDS DOWN!!!!!!!!! Hull breaches!!!!!! Hull critical!!!!! hull at 10%'

The pilot was scared as he tried to recover from the spin the nuke put him in. he looked out of the cockpit and knew it was all over. He was on a collision course with the gripon, and neither craft was agile enough to prevent a head on collision....

'Alpha 1!!! incoming large projectile'

The pilot panicked. He armed a torpedo and fired it the missile. It exploded iches away for the mega fighter 'SHIELDS DOWN!!!!!!!!! Hull breaches!!!!!! Hull critical!!!!! hull at 10%'

The pilot was scared as he tried to recover from the spin the nuke put him in. he looked out of the cockpit and knew it was all over. He was on a collision course with the gripon, and neither craft was agile enough to prevent a head on collision....

"OH SHIT! CANNOT HE FLY?! This is Gripen one! Requesting immediatly pick up! He's making kamikaze! Ejecting!"

Pilot ejected, and watched how the planes crashed. He saw that Gripen was much smaller, and was crushed, other plane was going down..
She saw how it blew when it crashed.

Damn EMP. Becose of that I didn't make it with my Gripen..
Oh. By the way. How you feel being defeated by a girl?

Ooc. I'm not a girl, pilot is. :p
Guess it was draw.

To be really technical, i won, as you left your unit before I did. So you have been defeated. however, you still get 1600 points for the damage (as in 100%) you caused to the mega fighter. You could try again as a gripon again OR a different unit...

final score 2700

well done

10 aurora bombers,
1000 Locklan7 fighters
1500 F-22

5000 T3 fast heavy tanks
5000 storm troops

hey moleland you still have to respond to what i said on page 6 at bottom.. and as for the plane, yeah id like surprise though it doesnt matter much. start on a cloudy day preferably.

To be really technical, i won, as you left your unit before I did. So you have been defeated. however, you still get 1600 points for the damage (as in 100%) you caused to the mega fighter. You could try again as a gripon again OR a different unit...

final score 2700

well done

But your pilot is dead, as he didn't eject [Or, if he did, I didn't notice. And if he would, he would do that before it crashed to my Gripen, and my pilot woulded stay longer then].
My pilot is still alive.

So technically I won.
Depends how we count it.

It woulded be draw even with your way, if my pilot woulded just stay in Gripen and die. But she survived, by ejecting. She didn't want to die. Like your did [Or then MF can't eject.]

OOC: I can read your post orange state!!!! PRAISE THE LORD!!!

The grenades exploded, taking the soliders by surprise. They blew up about 5o of them before they even reacted.

As the Orange state troops emptied there clips, a few more moles (25) fell, most of them already wounded by the grenades.

'There they are! STOP THEM!' yelled the troops.

The troops raised there blasters and fired 2 shots each (That's roughly 1,800 between all your troops).

They contiued to advance towards the rocks...
OOC:
um I only had 10 men! Im assuming that you are still a good distance away and that your men arent the best shots going. Also bear in mind that once one man's armour gives out and he dies, the rest of the squad will follow pretty quickly.

IC: the lasers flashed around the rocks burning them and the ground around it. The Orange state troops taking a few hits before ducking down and reloading. Schorching a few dents into their armour. (OOC: ie weakening it a bit by wearing bits of it away) burning through the outer compostie metal layer easily, but making little progress into the ceramite layer. the suit's enviromantal controls clicked in and began cooling the heated suits.

"load another clip"

the warriors emerged again as one firing more rounds into the group (each clip is 30 rounds fired at 3rds/second befre thr unit ducks down,. reloads and as one stands and fires). Shots began rainign down apon them and a few curses and could be heard and their armour began showing more and more damage from the hits. Soon there would be very little metal left on their upper bodies. The ceramite would last a little longer though..

A lucky shot hit a troop in the eye, killing him instantly as his entire front brain was roasted. (OOC: thats your lucky hit there. The rest of your kills will have to have the armour torn off them under weight of fire and their bodies burnt up by multiple hits)

symantec are just fools.. there was nothing wrong with my post.

i would like to test my army. could you telegram me when its my turn?

moleland,i challenge you.if you take this challenge telegram me.my country is the kingdom of buttenhausen in the region hybrid child

i would like to test my army. could you telegram me when its my turn?

sure okay

hey moleland you still have to respond to what i said on page 6 at bottom.. and as for the plane, yeah id like surprise though it doesnt matter much. start on a cloudy day preferably.

Sorry, Yatsumica. You see if you've been reading my other posts, The web security on my school internet filters all but first 1 or two posts on each page of the threads.
If I click on 'reply' I can see (most of time) the last 15 posts, although yesterday it was being annoying.
I can't see that messege. could you post it again??

I've got a bit to much on my hands at the moment... could you wait a while before starting th plane one???

IC: the lasers flashed around the rocks burning them and the ground around it. The Orange state troops taking a few hits before ducking down and reloading. Schorching a few dents into their armour. (OOC: ie weakening it a bit by wearing bits of it away) burning through the outer compostie metal layer easily, but making little progress into the ceramite layer. the suit's enviromantal controls clicked in and began cooling the heated suits.

"load another clip"

the warriors emerged again as one firing more rounds into the group (each clip is 30 rounds fired at 3rds/second befre thr unit ducks down,. reloads and as one stands and fires). Shots began rainign down apon them and a few curses and could be heard and their armour began showing more and more damage from the hits. Soon there would be very little metal left on their upper bodies. The ceramite would last a little longer though..

A lucky shot hit a troop in the eye, killing him instantly as his entire front brain was roasted. (OOC: thats your lucky hit there. The rest of your kills will have to have the armour torn off them under weight of fire and their bodies burnt up by multiple hits)

symantec are just fools.. there was nothing wrong with my post.

OOC: yeah, symantec REALLY bug me. They even filtered one the messeges I posted, evern though it was an exact copy of what they were telling me. Anyway, you are right, they aren't the best shots.

IC: As the 'fluke hit' killed the trooper, a course erupted from the moles that had targeted him 'He won't be causing us any more trouble!'

Then, the shots came roaring through the huge 'gathering' of troops, a few more (30) were killed, but others were only wounded. Most just walked straight towards the rock the troops wer hiding behind. Others walked round the rocks to attack from the side.

They continued firing 2 shots and walking forward...

moleland,i challenge you.if you take this challenge telegram me.my country is the kingdom of buttenhausen in the region hybrid child

It would be nice if when you type, you leave spaces between the commas and fullstops...

What sort of challege?

as tank approaches the road ahead of the forested hill, it can detect a faint heat source coming from spot on hill (if has heat raidar).

"charging Gause Lasers and ER Large Lasers for intercept of the tank."
'roger delta, stay with course of action'

as tank gets closer all 4 heavy lasers are set off, with the ER's burning path through the trees to do minimal damage to the tank and the Gause following in their path to do massive damage.

'Sir incoming laser type weapon!'
'Get our front armour in the way of it!!!'
'Yes sir'
'Arm the 300mm Heat-seeking missiles'
'Heat up...'

Just then, your weaponry hits that tank

'Front armour holding out, but only just!'
'Missile locked on!'
'FIRE!!!'

The tank fired back at your unit (I've forgotten its name)...

Hello Moleland,

Recently our nation and one of our allies have been looking into the idea of resurrecting the Canadian Interceptor Jet from the 1950's. We would like to use this to further test its capabilities.

The aircraft in question is the CF-105 Avro Arrow Mk.2. Its is an all weather, supersonic, interceptor jet. It has a top speed between Mach 2.5 and Mach 2.7. It is primarily armed with eight Guided Sparrow ATA Missiles. As this aircraft is an interceptor I guess you have the element of surprise.

Gen. Skip Avian
Department Of National Defense Research
The Republic Of The Pine Squirrels

We are ready to begin the testing at any time. Do inform us if you need to see the description of our sample unit again.

Sorry,

We are not allied with Neralli. Our ally will be monitering our craft's preformance in the test but I don't know if he will take an active role in them.
We are aware that you utilize future tech and we are still in the infancy but we'd still like to see how we stack up. If we get out asses hand to us, so be it. We're in for research.
We are willing to hold off until you are ready. Thanks for the help.

Gen. Skip Avian
Department Of National Defense Research
The Republic Of The Pine Squirrels

then who is Neralli then???

Good question. I don't know.

i'm sure they'll let me know soon...

OOC: yeah, symantec REALLY bug me. They even filtered one the messeges I posted, evern though it was an exact copy of what they were telling me. Anyway, you are right, they aren't the best shots.

IC: As the 'fluke hit' killed the trooper, a course erupted from the moles that had targeted him 'He won't be causing us any more trouble!'

Then, the shots came roaring through the huge 'gathering' of troops, a few more (30) were killed, but others were only wounded. Most just walked straight towards the rock the troops wer hiding behind. Others walked round the rocks to attack from the side.

They continued firing 2 shots and walking forward...

one man from each squad of 5 kept suppressing the moles in the large group moving foward marking any that seemed to have any idea other than using thier laser rifles, while 2 more hurled grenades over into them as they closed.
The remaining 2 ducked down and began firing into the moles as they lapped round the rocks, they aimed readily and shot them as they came into sight.
On one side the misile launcher was armed and fired (its AP, but its got to scare/shock/kill a few more moles than their cannon do)

then who is Neralli then???

Would-be tested. Posted our request a few pages back, ready to re-post if you can't check.

The grenades exploded, killing 40 more + 20 more were gunned down. But more than 700 continued advancing. The net was tightening. The orange state troops were fighting like mad dogs, but it looked like that they would finally be brought down by the enemies claws...

I would be interested in sending some of my infantary to train against yours. I am sending the 25th Spec Ops team

Specs:

25 men
CO: Lt. Commander Xerin. Awards listed for Xerin: Order of Scimar, 1st class honor medal (SImilar to MEdal of Honor), * the list goes on*
Equipment:

One AT-25 rifle
Stats for AT-25
25 shot clip
Semi-automatic
2x zoom
Electronic Aimsight that is used in conjuction with our elite infantary armor to make a small circle on the helmet HUD to show where shots are going to hit
Heavy rounds
2 clips per soldier, not including the 1 in the gun
Has a sound and flash suppresor

One combat blade

One suit of Elite infantary Armor

Is made of a high tech alloy to withstand most hits
Helemet has a HUD that displays orders from CO, ammo counts, where gun is probably going to hit, armor status, and critical lifereadings from the soldier wearing the armor

Training:
Marksman ship trainging at Scimar military academy
Swordsman ship trainging at same school
Elite tactis Training, location undisclosed
Covert Ops Training, Location Clasified

I would like my squad to go against comparbable Spec. Ops squads from your country.

OOC: Tell me when it is my turn, also, I am Semi-Future tech. I don't have the enterprise or laser cannons but my tech is better then current

ok! I'll let you know by telegram

I've found Neralli, don't worry. Sorry, i must have missed it when Symantec web security were being fudgeing wangers...

Could you be more specific, what type of unit are they/ Infantry or armour???

BUMP for edit to main page (read my reason...)

the rocket flares brilliantly out of the tank and flies directly at the Daishi.

'well shit, i guess theres no point in moving'

the rocket blasts through the trees directly in front of the daishi and just as its about to hit its shot down by the ACMG (Automatic Counter Missle Guns) and the front armour takes minor damage dropping it to a mere 97% capacity.

'well i guess i know the auto targeters work, but since he was nice enough to give me this wide open area to shoot from i guess ill just have to use it... launching Heavens Grenades (rockets that shoot up and rain down on the enemy with targeters)'

the shoulder panels open and 10 rockets soar out of the Daishi and fly into the clouds, the hills begin to reverberate with the noise of whistling, falling projectiles, when suddenly out of the clouds all 10 of the rockets come down strait at the tank.

I've found Neralli, don't worry. Sorry, i must have missed it when Symantec web security were being fudgeing wangers...

Could you be more specific, what type of unit are they/ Infantry or armour???

Armor...they just happen to have six-legged walker chassis instead of more conventional tracks or wheels.

It is Gripen. Not gripon! :headbang:

D'oh!!!

The weakened tanks armour, is no match against the onslaught. It is easily destroyed.

2nd enemy destroyed. 400 points! That gives you a total of 600. You may spend 200 points on repairing/relaoding your unit.

Your 3rd enemy is the 'Monster' class tank

Strengths: A good balance between armour, weaponry and speed
Weaknesses: weak side armour.

You can start

The grenades exploded, killing 40 more + 20 more were gunned down. But more than 700 continued advancing. The net was tightening. The orange state troops were fighting like mad dogs, but it looked like that they would finally be brought down by the enemies claws...

As the Moleland troops surrounded them the orange state infantry had one choice. They would stand and fight.

As the enmy close they threw their last grenades over the rocks into the middle of the group and ducked behind the lower ones, fire from the moles on all sides surrounded them and they leapt (well more sort of climbed na djumped off, its hard to jump up much in armour, but long jumping is not only doable, but makes as satisfying crunch) almost as one over the rocks and into the moles, monmolecular blades drawn.

the squad landed on the nearest moles, one or two crunching bones on the legs of their victims as they did, bringing their blades down and slicing diagonally accross the chest of their unfortunate victims. They stood tightly together to avoid being surrounded to badly and began slicing jumping and ducking through the moles. Like seven foot high samurai they wielded their blades with expert precision (after the Cam war we have increased Melee training a little), but the moles were brave and viscious fighters also.

(OOC: I'll post armour damage/casualties when I know the weapons you are using, my men will die like heroes among mounds of corpses. I hope to bring many down in the process though. They do cost $3million each though, whereas im guessing yours are little more than angry brain washed conscripts)

OOC: Not conscripts... Clones! They are my main cannon fooder!. They will only use laser blasters. But if you break there blaster or knock out of their hands, they will fight back with their claws!!!!

IC: The leaping soliders would have put the fear of God into many a brave force, but not these clones. They had the 'fear' reaction bred out of them. The grenades killed a few more, but they were beginning to start dodging them.

Lasers were going into overdrive. Despite the bravery of the enemy, they were easily brought down by the enemy's claws and lasers. However, they did strike down 3 each between them. The mole unit was left with 717 moles.

The attack did acheive one thing... UTTER CONFUSION Dust was being kicked up from all over the place. Stray lasers were hitting other moles, and they were returning fire!!!! Chaos reigned supreme for few minutes.

Once the dust setttled down, another 250 moles had been killed by 'friendly fire'

[b] you have been defeated. Unlucky, but you were outnumbered. I reckonmend you take the '1V1' battle choice. You score 100 points, which is a new high score!

As noted, we are ready whenever you are....

OOC: Not conscripts... Clones! They are my main cannon fooder!. They will only use laser blasters. But if you break there blaster or knock out of their hands, they will fight back with their claws!!!!

IC: The leaping soliders would have put the fear of God into many a brave force, but not these clones. They had the 'fear' reaction bred out of them. The grenades killed a few more, but they were beginning to start dodging them.

Lasers were going into overdrive. Despite the bravery of the enemy, they were easily brought down by the enemy's claws and lasers. However, they did strike down 3 each between them. The mole unit was left with 717 moles.

The attack did acheive one thing... UTTER CONFUSION Dust was being kicked up from all over the place. Stray lasers were hitting other moles, and they were returning fire!!!! Chaos reigned supreme for few minutes.

Once the dust setttled down, another 250 moles had been killed by 'friendly fire'

[b] you have been defeated. Unlucky, but you were outnumbered. I reckonmend you take the '1V1' battle choice. You score 100 points, which is a new high score!


yeah, um I didnt realise such a thing existed. I might later. I think my troops would be hard to beat one on one.

I think its fair to say that your moles werent going to lose. I was just trying to get the most out of everry man. I knew I was going to die, so I just decicded to do what I could to go out in style. I thinm its fair to say If you hadnt declared them dead. I would have too. *shakes Moleland's hand*

As for clones. Okay. But the point is they are a little way from your best troops, to say the least. Right?

i repair my shields and set up for the side splitter missles. (missles that come out sides to hit foe from sides). i will also reinforce my front and rear sheilds, and add the stationary mount on the ground so as to be able to fire rapidly, but i cant move. i will stand in the middle of a road on a flat ground and let you make the first move.

Hello there:
We're ready to start the test. Here's the details again as per requested.

Hello Moleland,

Recently our nation and one of our allies have been looking into the idea of resurrecting the Canadian Interceptor Jet from the 1950's. We would like to use this to further test its capabilities.

The aircraft in question is the CF-105 Avro Arrow Mk.2. Its is an all weather, supersonic, interceptor jet. It has a top speed between Mach 2.5 and Mach 2.7. It is primarily armed with eight Guided Sparrow ATA Missiles. As this aircraft is an interceptor I guess you have the element of surprise.

Gen. Skip Avian
Department Of National Defense Research
The Republic Of The Pine Squirrels

TO orange state:

Yeah, i basically spliced their genes to create the troop that holds the line. The fear emotion was bred out. They are tough, know how to aim (not very well) a blaster, are tough and loyal.

I'm glad you accepted that your troops were wiped out, but notice I how gave you credit for 'surprise'. If this was real, that would have annoyed me, having my own troops shooting at each other...

You'll have to wait (see long waiting list on the first page), if you want to try as something else. See ya on the Space rp soon!!!

-400 points
OOC: Yatsumica, okay

'Sir, enemy unit up ahead! It appears to be a stationary target!'

'Load heat seekers!'

'Heat up!'

'FIRE!'

The 300mm heat seeking missile homed in on it's target...

OOC: Pine Squirrels, you want to give me, a future tech nation the elemen of surprise??? A risky game Pine Squirrelsm a risky game.

The twf is your first enemy (see the example on page 1 for specs)
I'll start

IC: The twf's ancient engine droned as it dived down to get behind the intercepter. It armed it's particle cannon (an ansestor of the laser cannon) and fired at the interceptor...

'Yes I agree, you may have me out gunned. Still we DO want to run this test to basically see what we can do against future tech equipment (if anything).'

RPS: The interseptor's RIO officer picks up the TWF on his rear scan radar moniter and orders the pilot to take evasive action.

The pilot easies the plane past mach 1 and into a steap climb in hopes that he could break the particle cannons lock before it fires or atlest our run its range with its speed.

Meanwhile his RIO officer attempts to lock onto the TWF and preps two of his Sparrow Missiles to fire. He also stands by to launch the aircrafts counter measures (but I doupt they'd be very affective against your technology).

The pilot continues to push the aircraft past mach 2 as the TWF fires its particle cannon. The RIO fires off his flares and chaff but to no avail. The pilot attempts to dodge the beam by banking sharply. It works for now but the port wing tip has been damged severly. He has to reduce his speed fast. He purposely stalls the plane bringng the aircraft's nose pointing towards the ground and giving his RIO a chance to fire on the TWF before its charges up and fires again. The RIO fires off two of his missiles.

If they don't strike the target, their plane might not stand a chance against the another shot from TWF's Particle Cannon. Their manouvering capibilities have been serverly reduced.

(OOC: *yawns* Still waiting...longer than the bloody Pine Squirrels....)

To: Neralli

I apologise for whatever part I have in your situation. But please mind your manners and respect fellow nations regardless.

Moleland has a great idea here, and as a result they're obviously busy with it trying to manage several simulations at once. And I think he should be applauded for his efforts in that.

Please, try to exercise some respect and patience.

PS: Remember to take into account that this thing operates on GMT. Its not the same time all around the world.

O.k, becoz im new here, i am a little confused, so cud sumone give me a hand?

OOC: Hmm... interesting. Alright, here's my submission;


Name: "Renegade"
Class: LRMSV-1173 Mk2.7
Type: Space, 1000kt Dreadnaught, Missile Assualt Vessel
Primary Weaponry: Long Range Bombardment Missiles, Medium Range "Engagement" Anti-Capital Ship Missiles.
Secondary Weaponry: Short Range Defensive Pulse Cannons (Energy)
Tertiary Weaponry: Automated Defense Drones (Self-Propelled, Detachable, Laser Cannons)
Notes: One of Three of the LRMSV-1173 Mk2.7 vessels in the entire C&J Military, capable of devastating Long to Mid range Missile Bombardments. Weak at close range, Drones weapon is weak, and Pulse Cannon Tracking Mechanisms slow/ineffecient. Getting close is a nightmare, but once in, most large vessels will be able to demolish the Dreadnaught.
Quantity: ONE.

OOC: Hehe. Two would be mean. Three would be totally unfair, and I figured that it shouldn't have a Fighter Escort due to the fact it has defensive cannons of its own. Basically, the Drones play what we like to call, "Sandwich". That is, predictable. Now when I say sandwich, you think of two slices of bread with a filling, right? Exactly. Just tell me what grounds we're engaging on, either high-mid atmospheric or high-orbit/freespace are best.

Uh, if acceptable I'd like to test one of my X-wing Squadron and a Pokemon Company (ducks from flying fruit and other debris). If you don't want to, I'll understand.

To: Neralli

I apologise for whatever part I have in your situation. But please mind your manners and respect fellow nations regardless.

Moleland has a great idea here, and as a result they're obviously busy with it trying to manage several simulations at once. And I think he should be applauded for his efforts in that.

Please, try to exercise some respect and patience.

Am exercising patience. Have been exercising patience for last three days. Am not liking when queue turns into M. C. Escher painting. Am expecting very little. Am merely expecting that if submit request before other nation, should be responded to before other nation. Is not too much to ask, is it?

No sir it is not. I agree with you totally. And again I apologise.

You are right and I'd like to request that you take point over me and be delt with first as is fair.

Apology is accepted, and we appreciate your gesture.

'well shit that looks like a homin missle, well lets see if its radar or heat'

daishi suddenly launches a flare directly upwards from the mech, the missle follows it.

'that works, i guess that i can start my move'

10 bunker buster missles are launched out the front of the mech, and the side pannels open and launch 100 side splitter missles (50 on each side) all at once.

'lets see if he can take that from 3 sides at once'

opens direct com to the tank

'knight to E-4, check'

im back i wish to with draw my tank and use a vengance super fortress

Sorry Neralli! I admit, I did miss you out on the waiting list. I'll try and beat everybody else REALLY quickly. If you're American, it'll give a taste of what us brits go through waiting for an opperation in an NHS hospital (hence my joke).

You are att he top of list. I shall telegram you when I'm ready. Sorry for the delay.
Signed in person by King mole the 14th

(Thanks for support Pine Squirrels).

OOC: For The Pine Squirrels

The twf was too slow and with poor armour was unable to avoid the missiles and is destroyed.

Your first enemy is defeated. 300 points. You may reload and repair your fighter for 150 points.

China and Japan, you ahve been added tot he waiting list. Please wait your turn. I shall tell you by telegram when you are allowed to start.

Snake Eaters, what do you want help with???

CoreWorlds you must also join the waiting list. I'll let you know when it's your turn (The list just seems to get longer and longer) Any new challegers, unless you want a longish wait, join another time. Thankyou.

Sephrioth, if you want to be something else, you'll have to start from the beginning!!!

That means joining the waiting list. Is that ok?

By the way, the waiting list is on the first page, on the first post.

OOC: Righto, I await notification.

IC: Meanwhile, in preperation for the training exercises, the crew of the Renegade make sure it is fully loaded with ammunition, that there is no damage, and that the compliment of Drones is complete.

OOC: At last, I come to you Yatsumica!

'Joke with me will they!!! Arm the AP round!'

'AP up!'

'FIRE!!'

(How much armour can your missiles get through?)

The 500mm AP round headed towards it target. It doesn't home, but at the range we are at. It won't miss...

OOC: well i dont know much about armour penetration so im gonna give examples. the bunker buster missles are known to go through 36 inches of steel without slowing but dont have much of an explostion and the side splitters only go through about 12 inches of iron but are hard to dodge or block or anything really.

' O.K. this one could hurt a bit more than the others did so, ouch.'

as the pilot spoke this the AP hit the daishi through the right shield decreasing its effectiveness to 30% and then flying off course.

'ow, ow, ow, ow. THATS IT. time for the second wave of bunker busters.'

at this point the daishi front pannels opened up and shot out another volley of 100 bunker buster rockets. then he opened the intercom line to the tank.

"Check and Mate my friend"

Hmh..

I might test my infantry [So I can practice my infantry-RP-skills].

So. Eight men [/women] of my Special Forces [Currently named NSF].
And please, let your soldiers have modern-tech-weaponry.. :p

So 8 vs. 8.

My soldiers have..

1x L-85 [Not too much difference with M-16]
1x Desert Eagle.
2x grenades [Frags]
1x smoke grenade.
1x flashbang.
1x Kevlar.

And they are camouflaged.
I might change my weaponry..

And I give stats of soldiers when it's my turn.. :p
And this time, I'll get element of surprise. Ok?

And I'd like to get info about the ground.

Nireva, As you asked SO nicely I've decided that i will have no more than 8 troops in a unit. However, they will have future-tech weaponry. Anyway, your first enemy is

Light infantry

Strengths: fearless, loyal and tough
Weaknesses: stupid

Terrain is wasteland with some random rocks

You can start

OOC: well i dont know much about armour penetration so im gonna give examples. the bunker buster missles are known to go through 36 inches of steel without slowing but dont have much of an explostion and the side splitters only go through about 12 inches of iron but are hard to dodge or block or anything really.

' O.K. this one could hurt a bit more than the others did so, ouch.'

as the pilot spoke this the AP hit the daishi through the right shield decreasing its effectiveness to 30% and then flying off course.

'ow, ow, ow, ow. THATS IT. time for the second wave of bunker busters.'

at this point the daishi front pannels opened up and shot out another volley of 100 bunker buster rockets. then he opened the intercom line to the tank.

"Check and Mate my friend"

OOC: Excuse me while I do abit of maths...

Okay so they would probably devide evenly on all sides of the tank...

Ic: your first wave destroys the tank, yet again, ti was completly overwhelmed by the rockets...

OOC: GRRRRRR, now I'm really angry!!!!!!!!! That's an extra 800 points!!!

You now have a free service.

Your second to last enemy is the 'Invincibe' class tank

Strengths: Super tough armour, and powerful weapons
Weaknesses: nice big target

You can start!!!!

Bump Bump

i repair my sheild, and reload the bunker busters, and equip the Hells Bells rockets (they stream out from all openings in all directions and are just as powerful as the bunker busters, except that they are homing by a laser sighter attached to mech so if i point at a persons head the rocket will take his head off) and i start on the road with a hill on either side of me, with the tank approaching from the front.

'enforce shields to 85% front, prepare boosters for quick dodge capabilities, and launch a wave of 100 bunker busters at opponent. lets see how he reacts to that.'

the pilot watches as the 100 missles soar out of the front panels directly at the tank in front of him.

OOC:which by the way is about 200 yards away from the daishi

OOC: *bump?*

Reposting, in preparation for combat....

We would, at some point, like to test one of our typical ground-combat teams against your testing gauntlet. Bear in mind that these are merely typical units, not standard; our ground pilots have great latitude in the design of their craft's superstructure. Hereby submitted:

Typical Neralliite Ground Combat Team "Painbringers"

Two Heavy Hexapod Assault Platforms:
Heavy-1 ("Gutripper"): Cockpit, engine, ammunition storage, and reactor all offset to starboard, leaving port side clear for mobile unit EM accelerator cannon and autoloader.
Heavy-2 ("Mercy"): Cockpit, engine, and ammunition storage on centerline, flanked by port and starboard 120mm mobile unit autocannon feeding from two common ammunition stores.
Common Secondary Armament: One rotary machine gun in remote-controlled turret mount, above and behind cockpit.
Armor: Patchwork of steel and composite, partially overlaid with reactive armor tiles for extra protection of vital areas.
Top Speed: 30 MPH, assuming everything works.

Three Medium Hexapod Combat Platforms:
Medium-1 ("Reaper"): Humanoid torso on pivot in center of platform, arms consisting of a rotary machine gun on a fixed pylon, port and starboard, capable of linked elevation and limited counter-linked traverse; ammunition drums on rear of torso, feeding through arms. Cockpit in center torso, no head.
Medium-2 ("Assassin"): Looks to have been converted from a civilian excavator, with the backhoe replaced by a 90mm autocannon and a sponson-mounted remote-controlled machine gun added behind and outboard of the cabin.
Medium-3 ("Flenser"): Perhaps the strangest of the lot, this unit seems to mount the sawed-off fuselage of an aerofighter with a helicopter gunship's stub wings attached on the standard medium chassis and center pivot; however, it does pack a respectable armament, in the form of two 20mm tribarrel rotary autocannon, two 19-tube 2.75-inch dumbfire rocket launchers, and eight fire-and-forget anti-tank missiles, as well as possessing a limited short-hop tactical flight capability.
Armor: Anywhere from duralumin to composite, with the occasional area of reactive plating.
Top Speed: If everything's working properly, 45 MPH. Medium-3 can achieve ~100 MPH for a maximum of 30 seconds before expending all jump booster fuel.

(OOC: Relatively near-future, but a nation with entry restrictions less strict than those of the French Foreign Legion. Tends to attract a rough element, but also gets them plenty of tinkerers and the like. Heavies got nothing but elevation on main armament.)

Nireva, As you asked SO nicely I've decided that i will have no more than 8 troops in a unit. However, they will have future-tech weaponry. Anyway, your first enemy is

Light infantry

Strengths: fearless, loyal and tough
Weaknesses: stupid

Terrain is wasteland with some random rocks

You can start

Ooc. Okay. Bit harder for me..

Leader: Colonel Multanen,
Co-Leader: Major Hyytiäinen.
Lieteunant Sukula.
Lieteunant Saari.
Lieteunant Kovalainen.
Lieteunant Virtanen.
2nd Lieteunant Tukia
2nd Lieteunant Mustajoki

Ic.

"Lets go."
"Now?"
"Yes. Radar spotted something."
"Okay.. So we just get there and shoot some people dead."
"Yeah. Basicly."

25 minutes later, they were there.. Behind rocks.

"Wee.. Just eight.. Special forces?"
"Maybe. I don't care.. Take your targets.. I'll take first, Hyytiäinen 2nd, and so on.. Hold your fire..
Everyone ready?"

All said, that they're ready.

"Fire."

Everyone shooted couple of bursts to their targets.

"If they still move, Tukia & Hyytiäinen, throw grenades."
"Roger that."

Everyone shooted couple of bursts to their targets.


the word is shot not shooted

Yatsumica, don't be so picky. Web security is preventing me from seeing much else at the moment. Please wait.

The mole infantry, we taken completely by suprise by the sudden shots. Some of the more experience Nirevan troops finished off their targets with ease.

However, 4 more staggered around, and were preparing to fire back when some grenades were thrown, and blew them into little pieces.

You have defeated your first oppanant. As it wasn't a fulll unit, you only score 0.8 points. You may spend 0.4 points on replenising your unit.

Your next oppanant is

Mole Mechanized infantry (without the Mechanized bit)

Strengths: Trained rather than cloned. Bit better in battle
Weaknesses: Courage and loyality questionable

You can start again

Neralli, I can't see all your post (web security again)

Did you want the element of surprise???

Your first enemy is :

An APC:

Strengths: fast and agile
Weaknesses: weak armour

bump

boring...

The mole infantry, we taken completely by suprise by the sudden shots. Some of the more experience Nirevan troops finished off their targets with ease.

However, 4 more staggered around, and were preparing to fire back when some grenades were thrown, and blew them into little pieces.

You have defeated your first oppanant. As it wasn't a fulll unit, you only score 0.8 points. You may spend 0.4 points on replenising your unit.

Your next oppanant is

Mole Mechanized infantry (without the Mechanized bit)

Strengths: Trained rather than cloned. Bit better in battle
Weaknesses: Courage and loyality questionable

You can start again

Ooc. No need to do anything.. :rolleyes:

Ic.
"Wee. What's that?"
"More men? This is boring.."
"Hyytiäinen. Shut up. Those may be better."
"I really hope so."
"Be ready..
Aim..
Shit. Spotted someone. Open fire! Open fire!"

Once again, NSF soldiers shot about 12 shots each, as they rushed a bit.

"Anyone alive there?"
"Pretty sure there are.. Someone."
"Shit. Smoke us. Use lasers to aim."
"Roger."
"And, keep shooting."
"My pleasure.. Miss."
"Shut up."

So, they were trying to detect movement, if any movements were spotted, they most likely shoot, and won't miss easily.

As the bullets rang round, the troops instantly hit the deck. Their armour absorb most of the damage from the bullets, although, some where quiet badly injured.

'Take cover!' yelled one of them.

The uninjured ones instantly found cover. The more badly injured ones limped slowly behind the nearest rock.

Crounching behind the rock, they rested their repeater's (sort of laser machine gun, however the lasers are more like bullets) and fired back...

No surprise either side.

The Painbringers lumber along in no real formation until Reaper gets a return off the lead APC....

"So I says -- whoa, heads up, Painbringers! I got a target! 'Ripper, Mercy, one round each into that thing. If it still moves after that, Mercy can give it another. Now, where was I?"

"Forget where you was, boss! It's got company, four more! I'm givin' each of 'em one!"

"Copy, 'Ripper...Flenser! You and Mercy stand ready if 'Ripper can't take 'em all!"

"Roj that."

(OOC: Gutripper's cannon is a coil gun, launching hypervelocity steel-jacketed depleted uranium penetrators with enough force to punch clean through a modern MBT the long way. And then some. Mercy will be drawing from her stock of HEAT rounds for this. Flenser's not gonna bother with fancy maneuvering, just twistin' the tails of a couple shaped-charge fire-and-forget anti-tank missiles if it comes to that.)

As the bullets rang round, the troops instantly hit the deck. Their armour absorb most of the damage from the bullets, although, some where quiet badly injured.

'Take cover!' yelled one of them.

The uninjured ones instantly found cover. The more badly injured ones limped slowly behind the nearest rock.

Crounching behind the rock, they rested their repeater's (sort of laser machine gun, however the lasers are more like bullets) and fired back...

"See? There they are. Keep low, smoke is our help now."
"Should we capture them, or kill?"
"Kill first. Capturing is dangerous.."
"Yeah."
"Throw grenades. Try hit near rocks. Hard to see where they are, but still. You have equiptment."
"Woah. That was close. Thanks to smoke, I'm still alive."
"Yeah."
"Seems like it's machinegun. Somekinda. At least big firerate. Accuracy might be pretty low."
"Hope so."
"Hyytiäinen, Sukula, Saari, throw now. Others, cover fire."
"Roger."

ooc: repeaters can be very accurate, depends whose firing them

IC: 'GRENADE!!!!' The shout erupted from the wounded troops
BOOM!

The 4 wounded troops were killed. Before the dust could settle, the remaining moles jumped from behind the rocks, and charged at their enemies...

No surprise either side.

The Painbringers lumber along in no real formation until Reaper gets a return off the APC....

"So I says -- whoa, heads up, Painbringers! I got a target! 'Ripper, Mercy, one round each into that thing. If it still moves after that, Mercy can give it another. Now, where was I?"

OOC: Edit your post. I'd prefer that it was one on one. Thank you.
What penetration value is your weapon?

ooc: repeaters can be very accurate, depends whose firing them

IC: 'GRENADE!!!!' The shout erupted from the wounded troops
BOOM!

The 4 wounded troops were killed. Before the dust could settle, the remaining moles jumped from behind the rocks, and charged at their enemies...


"Take cover! They're firing hard!"
"My.. My.. Arm!"
"Hyytiäinen! Hit the dirt!"
"My.. Arm.. It's.."
"Yeah.. Keep low. Keep low."
"Pay that back.. Pay it back.."
"We'll do that."
"Pst. Sukula, Tukia, so, they're hiding behind those two rocks."
"Yes..?"
"Throw flashbang there, right after, throw frag too. To both rocks. That should kill the last ones. We need to get Hyytiäinen to medic.."
"Roger.."
"Now.."

Both threw the flashbangs, and both went where they were supposed to. But Tukia missed with frag [Once again, thanks to the damn smoke], Multanen fastly threw another frag, which went where it was supposed to.
Tukia's frag went somewhere between the rocks, where Moleland's troops were.

'What the?'

The flashbang exploded forcing the survivors away from the hiding places. Two more were gunned down. The remaining 2, motivated by the shouts of pain from the enemy firedand were fighting like mad dogs...

'What the?'

The flashbang exploded forcing the survivors away from the hiding places. Two more were gunned down. The remaining 2, motivated by the shouts of pain from the enemy firedand were fighting like mad dogs...

Ooc. Thought the courage was weaknesses.. :p

Ic.

"Can you hear me?
I hope you can.
I'm gonna say this just once. I give you a chance to live.
Stop shooting, throw your weapons, all of them, and stand up, hands above your head! If you do, we will let you stay alive.
If you will not do that, we will shoot you.
You got a minute to think that. For a minute, we will hold our fire.
So, don't shoot. If you do.. We have no choice than kill you." Multanen shout.

OOC: I said their courage was questionable, meaning that it is unreliable, rather than non-existent.

IC: One of the troops wanted to surrender. He was about to stand when his companion, pulled him over and said, 'We can't surrender! Do you know what shame would await us if you did?'

'Better than dieing'

'I'd rather be a dead hero, than a living coward!'

His companion looked over to the battlefield, then back at his companion. He sighed and said, 'I'll be a dead hero'

'Oi! Enemies! No surrender! We'll fight on!'

With that, he pulled out his most treasured item, his thermal denotator (basically a powerful grenade) at the Niveran troops.

OOC: I said their courage was questionable, meaning that it is unreliable, rather than non-existent.

IC: One of the troops wanted to surrender. He was about to stand when his companion, pulled him over and said, 'We can't surrender! Do you know what shame would await us if you did?'

'Better than dieing'

'I'd rather be a dead hero, than a living coward!'

His companion looked over to the battlefield, then back at his companion. He sighed and said, 'I'll be a dead hero'

'Oi! Enemies! No surrender! We'll fight on!'

With that, he pulled out his most treasured item, his thermal denotator (basically a powerful grenade) at the Niveran troops.


"Oh shit! What's that!"
"Somekinda grenade!"
"Get out of there now! Fall back!"
Boom.
"Report in."
"Sukula."
"H..Yy..Nen."
"Mustajoki."
"Kovalainen."
"Saari."
..
"Virtanen? Tukia?"
..
"Shit. Take care about Hyytiäinen. He need medic NOW! KILL THOSE MEN NOW!"
"Next time.. We'll bring the damn mortar.."
"Good idea.."
"Prepare the grenades."
"Roger.."
"Throw."

They threw them.
Right after, Multanen & Kovalainen threw flashbangs, after throwing flashbangs, they took cover, when flashbangs flashed, they looked for movement.

"Oh shit! What's that!"
"Somekinda grenade!"
"Get out of there now! Fall back!"
Boom.
"Report in."
"Sukula."
"H..Yy..Nen."
"Mustajoki."
"Kovalainen."
"Saari."
..
"Virtanen? Tukia?"
..
"Shit. Take care about Hyytiäinen. He need medic NOW! KILL THOSE MEN NOW!"
"Next time.. We'll bring the damn mortar.."
"Good idea.."
"Prepare the grenades."
"Roger.."
"Throw."

They threw them.
Right after, Multanen & Kovalainen threw flashbangs, after throwing flashbangs, they took cover, when flashbangs flashed, they looked for movement.

The weapons overpowered the remaining moles.

You've defeated your 2nd oppanant. As this wasn't a full unit, you score only 3.4 points. You may 'resurrect' the dead members of your unit and heal wounds etc for 1.9 points.

Your next enemy is:

Mole commanders

Strengths: Good experience and weaponry
Weaknesses: Predictible attack patterns

The weapons overpowered the remaining moles.

You've defeated your 2nd oppanant. As this wasn't a full unit, you score only 3.4 points. You may 'resurrect' the dead members of your unit and heal wounds etc for 1.9 points.

Your next enemy is:

Mole commanders

Strengths: Good experience and weaponry
Weaknesses: Predictible attack patterns

Yeah. This time I have to use it.. :rolleyes:
Also, re-weaponry, one of my men now has mortar [Like they said in last one.]..

"How did you wake him? I'm sure he was dead!"
"Medical merricle."
"Okay. Keep your secret."
"Delta One, report in!"

26 minutes later, they were at same place.. Once again.

"Let's just use grenades?"
"Hm.. That's a good idea."
"I & Hyytiäinen use flashbangs, others frags"
"Roger that."
"When flashbangs flashes, fire with L-85's, I guess they'd need to have somekinda heavy shields, if they'd want to survive from it."
"Yeah.. More powerful than any tank that we have."
"Our tanks doesen't have shields, idiot."
"Yeah, but heavy armor."
"It's different. Ready.."
"They're on position. Now."

8 grenades [2 flashbang, 6 frags] went straight to Moleland's infantry, when flashbangs flashed, everyone fired a magazine to enemys.

For Nireva,

IC: The 5 commanders were surprised by appearence of their enemy, but not daughted

The Explosions Caused some injuries, but the ehavy body armour they wear easily obsorb the explosion. They pulled out their bazookas att he same time and fired as they dived for cover behind a rock...

i repair my sheild, and reload the bunker busters, and equip the Hells Bells rockets (they stream out from all openings in all directions and are just as powerful as the bunker busters, except that they are homing by a laser sighter attached to mech so if i point at a persons head the rocket will take his head off) and i start on the road with a hill on either side of me, with the tank approaching from the front.

'enforce shields to 85% front, prepare boosters for quick dodge capabilities, and launch a wave of 100 bunker busters at opponent. lets see how he reacts to that.'

the pilot watches as the 100 missles soar out of the front panels directly at the tank in front of him.

OOC:which by the way is about 200 yards away from the daishi

'Enemy unit ahead sir!'

'They fired some of those bunker busters again'

'Time to give them a taste of their own bitter pill! Arm the HE round!'

'High explosive up!'

' fire!'

The 1000mm (yes 1000mm) HE round sped towards it's target

'Stand by for impact'

The bunker busters deflected off the heavy armour for a moment.

'Damage report!'

'We've lost mobility!'

'Why?'

'Tracks have been destroyed. Frontal armour holding, rear armour badly damage, but holding'

'And the side armour?'

'Near enough destroyed!'

OOC:nice this may acctually be more difficult, lol..... question, whats the blast radius of your HE's and what type of lock-on (if any) do they have??

'uh-oh...... boosters at full'

full side boosters launched the mech to the right off the road into the tree line as the daishi fired flares and radar decoys to the left, hoping the rocket wasnt lock-on or at least follow the decoys.

'launch hells bells rocket system, 200 aught to do it.'

all 200 missles pored out of the daishi and obliterated the trees around it without damaging the rockets or the daishi itself, the mech had taken minimal damage from smashing into the trees but didnt take too much damage, right side armour holding at 97%.

and by the way to moleland, the thermal detonator has an explosion radius of about 20 yards and you would have fried yourself with them. there should be more dead soldiers. (i like reading the other battles)

For Nireva,

IC: The 5 commanders were surprised by appearence of their enemy, but not daughted

The Explosions Caused some injuries, but the ehavy body armour they wear easily obsorb the explosion. They pulled out their bazookas att he same time and fired as they dived for cover behind a rock...

Ooc. Even they'd make out from frags, flashbangs woulded flash them [Do you even know what they are? They blind enemies for a while. They do that, unless their head would be covered with.. Steel?]. That's not killing, but when they've flashed; NSF's L-85's would easily shoot many of them.
Oh. One more thing; Flashbangs doesen't harm, they just blind for a moment.
Well.. If you're real close one, I guess it could blind you forever.. :rolleyes:
Ic.

"Holy shit!"
They all hitted dirt. Bazookas hitted to rocks, injuries came, but nothing serious.

"What are those?"
"I have no idea!"
"Virtanen, use mortar."
"How didn't they die?!"
"I have no freaking idea!"
"We just have to keep shooting."
"I'd prefer call an airstrike."
"No. It would be shame for us."
"HQ - Do you have any idea what they are? They made out from 8 grenades, 2 flashbangs, 6 frags."
"What? That's impossible!"
"That's what we thought.."
"Hold on.. They are.. Mole Commanders.."
"Mole commanders?"
"Strength: Experience in battle, and good weaponry. And I guess heavy armor."
"Weaknesses..?"
"No idea yet."
"Shit. Okay guys. Keep firing. Virtanen, hit them with mortar."

NSF's kept firing behind rocks. Virtanen fired with good aim with mortar.

OOC: Yatsumica, the HE round does have a lock on system. It is unguided. Furthermore, it has a explosion radius of roughly 100 yards!

IC: 'Sir, they've fired more rockets! They look weaker though!'
'load up another HE! That should finish them...'

The Hells bells rockets struck. A massive explosion was heard at the rear of the tank

' REPORT!'

'Engine destroyed. Rear abd side armour wiped out. Frontal armour holding out, but only just.'

'Fire that round now!'

'Away!'

The second round was sent on it's way towards it's target.

OOC: Yeah, I do. Moles don't have great sight anyway. It has partially blinded them though.

IC: 'MORTAR!'
Despite excellant aim, hardy mole commanders and excellant armour assured those that were hit survived, although badly wounded.

'Everyone Ok'
'Yeah! just about'

They returned fire, each firing 8 shots of laser blaster at their enemies

im game

You are on the waiting list Sephrioth.

OOC: Yeah, I do. Moles don't have great sight anyway. It has partially blinded them though.

IC: 'MORTAR!'
Despite excellant aim, hardy mole commanders and excellant armour assured those that were hit survived, although badly wounded.

'Everyone Ok'
'Yeah! just about'

They returned fire, each firing 8 shots of laser blaster at their enemies

Ooc.
If they were blinded, how did they found the way to rocks so fast?
And.. Any armor cannot take magazine of L-85. And grenade? Well. Not so close. I'm not sure about mortar, I don't know much about them [Well. No armor; Sure he'd be dead].

Ic.

"They're firing.. Keep low.."
"Yeah. Noticed."
"Virtanen, keep shooting.." [I guess you know how mortar shoots.]
"Ouch."
"Kovalainen? What?"
"Just some.. Damn sand to my eyes."
"Okay. I hate that too."
"I'm sure you do.."
"Did they stop?"
"Guess so.."
"Be aware, they might be sighting at us."
"Yeah.."
"I'll check it."
"Okay. But.. Stay alive, Tukia."
"I'll do fine. Wee! Yeah. They're sighting."
"All of them?"
"Well.. I didn't have time to see."
"Okay."
"I'm soon out of ammo with this mortar.."
"Okay."
"Stand up and shoot.. 3.. 2.. Now."

All of them stood up, fired couple of bursts, Tukia got hit from laser blaster, to his arm.
He fastly took his Desert Eagle, and shot with it.

IC: the mortar shot finished off 2 of the commanders who died with loud screams.

The remaining commanders returned fire with their bazookas

IC: the mortar shot finished off 2 of the commanders who died with loud screams.

The remaining commanders returned fire with their bazookas

"Ah.. Those are.. Noisy."
"Yeah."
"Wee! Bazookas!"
"Tukia! HIT THE.."
"Dead.."
"Yeah.."
"Take the grenades & flashbangs.. And.. Check pulse.."
"Roger."

"So! You guys are somekinda tough there? At least you have tough armor, don't you? Now. I'm gonna give you a chance to life. We are Special Forces of Nireva, you cannot take us. We have really good training. I think you should know that. So. One minute; Surrender or face the death. We don't like killing. Who does? I'm pretty sure that you have a family. Hoping that you get into home in one piece.. So you can make love with your wives.. Or girlfriends.. You can get kids.. So do we want home in one piece. We do have a family waiting for us. So. Please, surrender, or then you will never see your wife again.. Or girlfriend.. One minute to choice, that can you see your loved ones.."

"Miss!"
"Multanen, not miss."
"Tukia's alive! I can sense pulse."
"Take him safe. We might get him out of here alive."
"Yeah. Hope we get."

Hyytiäinen took Tukia to safest place near the place. And place where they made alive.

The mole commanders looked at one another. The words hit home, but their training over-ruled their emotions. they knew that surrender was not an option.

They used the minute to take out a medikit from their backpacks to heal up their wounds. They armed their bazookas, and were ready to fire.

The mole commanders looked at one another. The words hit home, but their training over-ruled their emotions. they knew that surrender was not an option.

They used the minute to take out a medikit from their backpacks to heal up their wounds. They armed their bazookas, and were ready to fire.

Ooc. Usually, no training could do that. Unless it's brainwash.

Ic.

"Minute's up. Sorry, but.. You had your time. Now. We will shoot you.. Sorry.
Shoot them.. That's our only choice.. Virtanen, you have any ammo in mortar?"
"Couple.."
"Shoot them."
"Give me Tukia's flashbang. I'll throw it center. Thanks."

Multanen threw the flashbang in center of rocks where Moleland's troops were hiding. Then, Multanen & others threw another frags.

"4 frags left.. Not much. We have to safe them now. If those doesen't kill them."

Ooc. And, I don't believe you can fix the armor out there. Some wounds can be easily healed, but nothing serious.. :rolleyes:

Oh. One more thing; May I make own this kinda militarytestingplace, with modern tech?
As this is future..?

OOC: maybe... Very well, you have permission to co host it with moi. TG me with your rules, unit types (simply anything on my first post).
Also, I don't beleive I said they repaired their armour...
IC: (before the flashbangs were used)

The commanders fired their Bazokkas at the enemies. Then the Explosives went off. Two of the commanders were killed. the remaining one was blown out from his cover, and in full sight of your troops, expecting nothing but death...

OOC: maybe... Very well, you have permission to co host it with moi. TG me with your rules, unit types (simply anything on my first post).
Also, I don't beleive I said they repaired their armour...
IC: (before the flashbangs were used)

The commanders fired their Bazokkas at the enemies. Then the Explosives went off. Two of the commanders were killed. the remaining one was blown out from his cover, and in full sight of your troops, expecting nothing but death...

Ooc. Ok, thanks. I'll do that later, after this, I'm out for while.
And yes, you didn't say, I just remindered.. :rolleyes:

Ic.

"Oh shit.. Saari.. He's dead.."
"I see him! Go go go! Capture!"

Before Mole Commander got his full sight back, 5 Nirevan troops were around him, one was disarming, already got the weapon out.
One Nirevan got and locked the hands, so Commander would have no chances to take grenade and blow it.

"You will not make love with your wife. At least not in near-future.
But we'll allow you to talk & see her.. And, your kids too, if you have."

"HQ, send Mi-8 here, with medic onboard, we have two badly injured men. And couple of military police too, here's one prisoner."
"Roger that."

At the while, Sukula was pointing his Desert Eagle to Mole Commander face.
"Any movement and you'll die! I'm sure I will kill you! You killed Saari!"
"Hey.. Sukula. How's your arm.. Looks bad."
"Yeah. It hurts.. But I'm okay."
"Okay. Don't shoot him.. Unless he tries to do something. He cannot, but if he tries."
"Roger."

you have defeated your third oppanant, and therefore are awarded 400 points. You have a free service. Your score is at the moment is 402.1 points

Your next oppanant is the MUSRUM MK6

Strength: VERY STRONG
Weaknesses: Stupid, and only has the rocket laucher as a weapon

you have defeated your third oppanant, and therefore are awarded 400 points. You have a free service. Your score is at the moment is 402.1 points

Your next oppanant is the MUSRUM MK6

Strength: VERY STRONG
Weaknesses: Stupid, and only has the rocket laucher as a weapon

Ooc. The name made me laugh. Musrum. :D

Ic.

"Once again, a medical merricle?"
"Yes."
"C'mon. Tell."
"No."
"Okay then.."
"Delta One. Get to there, spotting something."
"Roger that.. Radio."

62 minutes later.

"What are THOSE?"
"They're.. Big!" [I suppose they are, as armor is pretty heavy, and they must be pretty strong. And rocket launcher is heavy too.]
"Well. That's gonna be hard. Always something better came.."
"Yeah."
"Lets blind them. And grenades too."
"Roger that. Same as last one?"
"Yes."

"3.. 2.. 1.. Throw.."
Bang. Boom. [Flashbang says "Bang". :p ]
"Fire!"
All eight soldier stood up & started firing with their L-85's.


Ooc. And your Musrum's are blinded for a while, they cannot straight run to rocks, they have to hit the dirt, then wait a while to see something, becose of flashbangs.

If they all starts running where they suppose where the rocks are, couple might make it, couple might run too far, and others miss the whole rocks.

OOC: MUSRUM (prenounce mushroom) Stands for Mega Ultra Super Robo Ultimate Mole. Flashbangs will have no effect on it (only one in a unit)

The Musrum Let's out an electronic roar and spins round and fires 3 rockets, and advances as though his enemy were firing water pistols...

Hello, Serafima is here if the aid is needed :) (hey Rob its me charlotte from school)

Serafima West Coast operates a unique sniper rifle factory, using a combination of gamma rays and accuracy only mastered just recently, if any shipments are required we can get them straight to you.

:fluffle: from Lavendar Serenade

bump for edit and nivera's practice thingy...

What are you on Serafima?

I am just saying if you need any reinforcements, Rob its me charlotte from school you know?

my name is lavendar Serenade, dummy! ;) oh well guess i aint wanted around here :confused:

I know!!!!!

Anyway, I don't need help this a war game ninny

:( :( :( :( :( *sobs*

OOC: Aww, be nice to the lady. Anyway, when do I come in?

OOC: MUSRUM (prenounce mushroom) Stands for Mega Ultra Super Robo Ultimate Mole. Flashbangs will have no effect on it (only one in a unit)

The Musrum Let's out an electronic roar and spins round and fires 3 rockets, and advances as though his enemy were firing water pistols...

Ooc.
Well. If it's robotic, they won't affect [Unless theres operator, camera would most likely either broke, or by it the operator would flash].

Ic.

"What the..!?"
"It didn't even fall!"
"Hit the dirt!"
"Keep shooting!"
"Good, good thing is that rockets aren't too fast.."
"Yeah.. Maybe it has minigun.."
"Just keep firing!"
"Use the mortar!"
"Throw grenades!"
"JUST FIRE AT IT!"
"No flashbangs!"
"But what it is!?"
"Must be a robot!"
"Oh shit.."
"Just keep firing! Co-ordinate! Get around it!"

Nirevan forces kept shooting against MUSRUM, and hoped they'd broke something..


Ooc. And, waterpistols could be pretty effective.. :rolleyes:

i'll tg when i'm ready.

Serafima, please call me Moleland from now on??

Have a hanky

Well i will stay on this island for as long as you say, Its nice being the only woman on the island; all you men trying to sort things out, it turns me on so.....you must get sexually frustrated being on an island like this on your own with no women, I must be a pretty rare sight around here, right?

thanks Coreworlds for your concern ;) ;) ;)

I am not serafima my name is Lavendar Serenade, Serafima is the name of my country.

Please stop spamming my thread

sorry big guy :rolleyes: tut tut talk about rude, at least Coreworlds was nice to me *winks at Coreworlds* ;)

GRRRRR!!!!

sorry i will be quiet now, but i am here if you need me
*walks off elegantly away into the distance*

That was....... Strange

OOC: goddamn, im gonna have to learn how to make those HE's of yours.

this time the daishi was ready for the rocket from the tank.

'ok you little B***H ill take you on'

the daishi simultaneously shot the missle from the tank with all 4 lasers, both machine guns, and launched another barrage of Hells Bells at the tank.

'that should finish him off, shit and it had better, my shields holding at 26% capacity any more of this and it'll damage my armour.'

OOC:you may be proud of your tech but i dont want to end my winnings streak just yet. teeheehee

well i dont know how tog et pictures on here but here is what i got so far





US M40A1 (Remington 700)
Sellers Hint: Great gun, very accurate A+!

Cartridge: 7.62 x 51 NATO

Dimensions:
Length: 1118mm (44.0in)
Weight: 6.57kg (14lb 8oz)
Barrel: 610mm (24.0in)
Rifling: 4 grooves, rh
Magazine Capacity: 5 rounds


FN M249 SAW

Cartridge: 5.56 x 45mm NATO

Dimensions:
Length: 1040mm (40.95in)
Weight: 6.85kg (15lb 2oz)
Barrel: 523mm (20.60in)
Rifling: 6 grooves, rh
Feed System: 30 round detachable box, or 200 round metal belt
Rate of Fire: 700-1000 rds/min



XM8 rifle in "automatic rifle" (light machine gun) configuration. Note longer barrel and folded bipods under the forearm


XM8 Carbine Specifications
Caliber Capacity Length Width Height Barrel Length Weight
5.56 mm 10/30/100 rds 29.8 in 2.34 in 9.17 in 12.5 in 6.2 lb
Desert Eagle Cartridge: .357 Magnum, .44 Magnum, .50 Action Express Dimensions: Length: 10.25in Weight: 52oz (Alloy Frame) 60 oz (Steel Frame) Barrel: 6in Rifling: 6 grooves, rh Magazine Capacity: 9 rounds

ARMOR

Kevlar Armor:


P.C.V. (powered combat vest)

Pinnacle of scientific military advancement, small-electrified fiber optic cable, each P.C.V. has over one billion tiny ”unbreakable” cable stop almost all projectile, Rechargeable, once power is drained though…it becomes a standard Kevlar vest, when fully powered the tiny “nerves” will actually absorb the blow from any assault rifle. Takes special batteries and recharging stations.





Light Armored Vehicle-25 (LAV-25)


Primary function: Provide strategic mobility to reach and engage the threat, tactical mobility for effective use of fire power, fire power to defeat soft and armored targets, battlefield survivability to carry out combat missions.
Length: 251.6 inches (6.39 meters)
Height: 106.0 inches, (101.0 with pintle mount removed) (2.69 meters)
Width: 98.4 inches (turret facing forward) (2.5 meters)
Weight: 24,100 pounds (10,941 kilograms)
Combat Weight: 28,200 pounds (12,802.8 kilograms)
Range: 410 miles (660.1 kilometers)
Speed: 62 mph (99.2 km/hr)
Swim speed: 6 mph (9.6 km/hr)
Crew: Driver, gunner, commander and 6 troops
Armament: M242 25mm chain gun, M240 7.62mm machine gun mounted coaxial to the main gun
Unit Replacement Cost: $900,000

Features: The LAV-25 is an all-terrain, all-weather vehicle with night capabilities. It is air transportable via C-130, C-141, C-5 and CH-53 E. When combat loaded there are 210 ready rounds and 420 stowed rounds of 25 mm ammunition as well as 400 ready rounds and 1200 stowed rounds of 7.62mm. There are 8 ready rounds and 8 stowed rounds of smoke grenades. A supplementary M240E1 7.62mm machine gun can be pintle-mounted at the commander's station in the turret. The LAV-25 is fully amphibious with a maximum of 3 minutes preparation.

Inventory: 401



HMVMM


Length: 15 ft
Width: 7.08 ft
Height : 6.00 feet reducible to 4.5 feet
Weight: 5,200 lbs
Engine: V8, 6.2 litre displacement, fuel injected diesel, liquid cooled, compression ignition
Horsepower: 150 at 3,600 RPM
Transmission: 3 speed, automatic
Transfer case: 2 speed, locking, chain driven
Electrical system: 24 volt, negative ground, 60 amps
Brakes: Hydraulic, 4-wheeled disc
Fording depth: without preparation: 2.5 ft (76.2 cm)with deep water fording kit : 5 ft (1.5 m)
Fuel type: Diesel
Fuel capacity: 25 gallons
Range: 350 miles highway
Max speed: 65 mph


V-22 Ospray




V-22 Specifications Powerplant • Two Allison T406-AD-400 engines • Max and Intermediate, shp (kW) - 6,150 (4,586) Rotor System • Blades per hub - 3 • Construction - graphite/fiberglass • Tip speed, fps (mps) - 661.90 (201.75) • Diameter, ft (m) - 38.00 (11.58) • Blade area, ft2 (m2) - 261.52 (24.30) • Disc area, ft2, (m2) - 2,268.00 (210.70) • Blade folding - automatic, powered Transmissions • Takeoff [TEMC], shp (kW) - 4,570 (3,408) • Takeoff [TEN], shp (kW) - 4,970 (3,706) • Takeoff [TEAF], shp (kW) - 4,970 (3,706) • 1 engine inoperative, shp (kW) - 5,920 (4,415) Performance • Max speed, SL, kts (km/h) - 275 (510) • Vert rate of climb, SL, fpm (m/m) 1,090 (332) • Max rate of climb, SL, fpm (m/m) 2,320 (707) • Service ceiling, ft (m) - 26,000 (7,925) • Service ceiling, one engine inop, ft (m) 11,300 (3,444) • HOGE, ft (m) - 14,200 (4,328) Range • Amphib assault, nm (km) - 515 (954) • Max, self-deployment, nm (km) 2,100 (3,892) Crew • Cockpit - crew seats - 2 • Cabin - troop seats/litters - 24/12 Dimensions - Internal • Length, max, ft (m) - 24.17 (7.37) • Width, max, ft (m) - 5.92 (1.80) • Height, max, ft (m) - 6.00 (1.83) Weights • Empty, lbs (kg) - 33,140 (15,032) • Takeoff, vertical, max, lbs - 47,500 (21,546) • Takeoff, short running, max, lbs (kg) 55,000 (24,948) • Takeoff, self-deploy mission, lbs (kg) 60,500 (27,443) • Cargo hook, single, lbs (kg) 10,000 (4,536) • Cargo hook, dual, lbs (kg) - 15,000 (9,221)
Range • Amphib assault, nm (km) - 515 (954) • Max, self-deployment, nm (km) 2,100 (3,892) Crew • Cockpit - crew seats - 2 • Cabin - troop seats/litters - 24/12 Dimensions - External • Length, fuselage, ft (m) - 57.33 (17.48) • Width, rotors turning, ft (m) - 83.33 (25.55) • Length, stowed, ft (m) - 62.58 (19.08) • Width, stowed, ft (m) - 18.42 (5.61) • Width, horizontal stabilizer, ft (m) - 18.42 (5.61) • Height, nacelles fully vertical, ft (m) - 21.76 (6.63) • Height, vertical stabilizer, ft (m) - 17.65 (5.38) Fuel Capacity • Sponsons, gals (liters) - 1,228 (4,649) • Wings, gals (liters) - 787 (2,979) • Aux, self-deployment, gals (liters) - 2,436 (9,221)


F/A-18 SUPER HORNETT













F/A-22 RAPTOR STEALTH FIGHTER



F-15 Eagle






F-14 Tomcat




F-16 Fighting Falcon




B-1 Bomber




B-52 Bomber




B-2 Stealth Bomber





CVN-68 Nimitz-class Carrier



Power Plant Two Nuclear Power Plant (A4W Pressurized Water Reactor)Four shafts, Four propellers, with five blades each
Length, overall 1,092 feet (332.85 meters)
Flight Deck Width 252 feet (76.8 meters)
Beam 134 feet (40.84 meters)
Displacement Approx. 97,000 tons (87,300 metric tons) full load
Speed 30+ knots (34.5+ miles per hour)
Aircraft 85
Aircraft elevators Four
Catapults Four
Crew Ship's Company: 3,200 Air Wing: 2,480 Departments
AdministrativeAircraft MaintenanceAirChaplainCombat SystemsDeckDentalEngineeringLegalMaintenance MedicalNavigationOperationsPublic AffairsReactorSafetySupplyTrainingWeapons

Armament 4 Sea Sparrow launchers3 Phalanx CIWS 20mm mounts [Nimitz & Ike]4 Phalanx CIWS 20mm mounts [Vinson and later]
Combat Systems SPS-48E 3-D air search radarSPS-49(V)5 2-D air search radar3 Mk91 Fire Control AN/SLQ-32(V)4 active jamming/deceptionAN/WLR-1H ESM
Service Life 50 years

Arsenal Ship





Armament 500-cell Vertical Launch System (VLS)Tomahawk Land-Attack Missiles (TLAMs)Army Tactical Missile System
Crew ~~ 50; designed to be highly automated
Design Low radar signature ("stealthy")double hull length 500-800 feet
Estimated Number Six vessels



CGN-38 Virginia Class




Power Plant 2 D2G General Electric nuclear reactors,two shafts, 60,000 shp
Length Overall Length: 586 ftWaterline Length: 560 ft
Beam Extreme Beam: 63 ft Waterline Beam: 62 ft
Draft Maximum Navigational Draft: 32 ft Draft Limit: 23 ft
Displacement Light Displacement: 10663 tons Full Displacement: 11666 tons
Speed 30 plus knots
Aircraft None
Helicopter Landing Capability None
Armament Standard Missiles (MR)ASROC 8 - Tomahawk ASM/LAM (from 2 armored box launchers8 - Harpoon (from two Mk141 quad launchers)4 - MK 46 torpedoes (from fixed single tubes)2 - Mk45 5-inch/54 caliber lightweight gun2 - 20mm Phalanx CIWS
Combat Systems SPS-40 Air Search RadarSPS-48 3D Air Search RadarSPS-67 Surface Search Radar SQQ-26 Sonar [bow mounted] 1 Mk14 Weapon Direction System2 Mk74 Missile Fire Control System1 Mk86 Gun Fire Control System1 Mk114 ASW Fire Control System4 SPG-51 Radars SLQ-25 NIXIE SLQ-32 EW system
Crew 39 Officers, 539 Enlisted
Unit Operating CostAnnual Average ~$40,000,000 [source: [FY1996 VAMOSC]


PHM 1 Pegasus





Power Plant Foilborneone gas turbine, 18,000 shaft horsepower,waterjet propulsion units; hullbornetwo diesels, 1,600 brake horsepower,waterjet propulsion units
Length Foils extended, 133 feet;foils retracted, 145 feet
Beam 28 feet
Draft
Displacement 255 tons full load
Armament 8 - Harpoon 1 - 76mm gun
Speed Foilborne, in excess of 40 knots; hullborne, 12 knots
Crew 25




BB-61 IOWA-class






Displacement Light Displacement: 45231 tonsFull Displacement: 57271 tons Dead Weight: 12040 tons
Length Overall Length: 888 ftWaterline Length: 860 ft
Beam Extreme Beam: 109 ftWaterline Beam: 108 ft
Draft Maximum Navigational Draft: 38 ftDraft Limit: 37 ft
Max Speed 35 knots
Power Plant Eight boilers, four geared turbines, four shafts, 212,000 shaft horsepower
Armament 32 - Tomahawk ASM/LAM - 8 armored box launchers16 - Harpoon ASM - 4 quad cell launchers 9 - Mk 7 - 16-inch / 50 caliber guns12 - Mk 28 - 5-inch / 38 caliber guns 4 - Mk 15 - 20mm Phalanx CIWS
Combat Systems SPS-49 Air Search RadarSPS-67 Surface Search Radar4 Mk37 Gun Fire Control2 Mk38 Gun Direction1 Mk40 Gun Director1 SPQ-9 [BB-61] SLQ-25 NIXIESLQ-32 EW system
Aircraft None embarked landing area and unhangared parking area4 SH-3 or4 SH-60
Compliment 1,515 ship's company65 officers1,450 enlisted58 Marines

LPH-2 Troop Carrier



Power Plant Two boilers, one geared steam turbines, one shaft, 22,000 total shaft horsepower
Length Overall Length: 598 ft Waterline Length: 556 ft
Flight Deck Width 104 feet (31.2 meters)
Beam 84 feet (25.2 meters)
Draft Maximum Navigational Draft: 29 ft Draft Limit: 30 ft
Displacement Light Displacement: 13465 tons Full Displacement: 19395 tons Dead Weight: 5930 tons
Speed 23 knots (26.5 miles per hour)
Aircraft (actual mix depends upon mission)11 - CH-53 Sea Stallion helicopters20 - CH-46 Sea Knight helicopters20- V-22 Osprey
Crew Ships Company: 80 officers, 638 enlistedMarine Detachment: 1,750
Armament 2 - 20mm Phalanx CIWS


Each Troop carrier holds 50 Landing Craft, Air Cushion (LCAC)




Builder Textron Marine and Land ystemsLockheedAvondale Gulfport Marine
Power Plant Four Avco-Lycoming gas turbines; 12,280 bhp; two shrouded reversible-pitch propellers; four double-entry fans for lift
Length 88 feet
Beam 47 feet
Displacement 200 tons full load
Capacity 60 tons/75 ton overload
Speed 40 plus knots with payload
Armament 2 - 12.7mm MGs. Gun mounts will support: M-2HB .50 cal machine gun; Mk-19 Mod3 40mm grenade launcher; M-60 machine gun
Crew 5
Range 200 miles at 40 kts with payload 300 miles at 35 kts with payload
Availability LCACs per Day (from a total of 54)Day One – 52Day Two – 49Day Three – 46Day Four – 43Day Five - 40
Operating Time 16 hours per day per LCAC
Time per Sortie Vehicle Load – 6 hours, 8 minCargo Load – 8 hours, 36 min
Sorties per Day for Vehicles 2.6 sorties per LCAC per day Total = 104 LCAC sorties per day @ 40 LCACs per day
Sorties per Day for Cargo 1.86 sorties per LCAC per day Total = 74 LCAC sorties per day @ 40 LCACs per day
Personnel Capacity 24 Troops180 w/PTM
Short Tons per Sortie 25 STONS50 pallets (500 lbs per pallet)
Vehicles per Sortie 12 HMMWVs per sortie4 LAVs per sortie2 AAVs per sortie1 M1A1 per sortie4 M923 per sortie2 M923 5-Ton Trucks,2 M198 Howitzers, and 2 HMMWVs per sortie
Time Details Transit (45 NM @ 25 kts) x 2 = 216 min Well Deck Ops 62 min for vehicles120 min for cargo Beach Ops 30 min for vehicles120 min for cargoFriction = 60 min Total = 368 min (for vehicles) or 516 min (for cargo)
Unit LCAC Sortie Requirements Infantry Regiment · 269 HMMWVs = 23 sorties · 10 5-Ton Trucks = 3 sorties · Tank Battalion · 58 M1A1 = 58 sorties · 95 HMMWVs = 8 sorties · 23 5-Tons = 6 sorties · 8 Fuel Trucks = 4 sorties · LAV Battalion · 110 LAVs = 28 sorties · 29 HMMWVs = 3 sorties · 23 5-Tons = 6 sorties · 8 Fuel Trucks = 4 sorties
Support Ship Capacity: · LSD 41 Class..............4 LCAC · LSD 36 Class..............3 LCAC · LPD-4 Class................1 LCAC · LPD-17 Class..............1 LCAC · LHA Class...................1 LCAC · LHD Class...................3 LCAC

Me, I just wanna see how well Pokemon can stand up in a combat environment. Bullets vs Thunderbolt! Flamethrower vs Flamethrower!

Not to mention a few Jedi, a regiment of Imperial Marines and my X-wings.

coreworlds......your wierd

LOL. So you finally noticed. Yeah, I'm odd, but hey, there's wierder people out there.