NationStates Jolt Archive

Whos buying booze?

i'll bring some booze!

Actually, FS, check indra's title on the ESUS Boards, I believe he can bring the booze, and any other object he desires.

Ominrio will sign, BTW IP If you do a search for naggeroth and read the gates to hell open, you will find a Violater of the Accord.

Ominrio will sign, BTW IP If you do a search for naggeroth and read the gates to hell open, you will find a Violater of the Accord.

I'm gonna get you!:upyours:

Just kidding.

I'm gonna get you!:upyours:

Just kidding.

And then I Will get you, and don't try me, I have armies that could hurt you!

And then I Will get you, and don't try me, I have armies that could hurt you!

My willy's bigger than yours!

Please, this is not the place for flaming.

Take it out of the thread.

Indeed, now, lets create the party thread, and get going.

Hu? Just keeping my sister protected, And Ank, it better be, I am female! Anyway, who wants to go into my RP?

And Ank, it better be, I am female!

*looks down in shame*


I don't know.....

Notice to the administrators of the Temporal Accord:
The nation of Mirfak has merged with two other nations to form the Socialist Republic of Xanthal. This name change should be reflected on the Accord.

Prepare, for the party shall soon commence!

Not wanting to bicker, but for the longest time now, The Collective of Warhaven has been The Eternal Dominion of Warhaven, could somebody please change my sig on the accord to reflect that? I'll give you my gratitude, and many thanks, I promise.

Indra is on vacation right now, when he gets back, I will tell him.

bump

The Manticoran Alliance of Mini Miehm would like to add our names to this pact.

Whoah- I remember this and all the lively temporal discussions between myself and Indra Prime. Good times.

What happened to this accord and the temporal conference with Balorgga anyway?

The signature of the delegate from the Manticorian Alliance of Mini Miehm is welcomed, and is duly noted and their dedication to protect the Space/Time Continuum is greatly appreciated.

The Galactic Inferno of No Endorse is still wary of the nation of Indra Prime. It has been long yes, but not long enough to erase memory.

We shall watch this development closely, to make sure that no... incidents stem from the return.



ooc: taggity

People got busy doing other stuff and when christmas break (I think) was over nobody returned to the confrence so it died.

I have been thinking of doing another one but only with 6 other nations but I am waiting for time.

Ah, you're back.

I demand to be removed from this list, and furthermore, any and all actions taken by your so-called temporal accord now and forevermore shall be ignored.

Your name shall be removed from the Accord, however, you will find that many things have changed since my return (which is in the process of occuring ICly) Dont imagine that we have grown softer or more or less lenient with this technology. You will find out what our line of thinking is in the days/weeks/months to follow.

ooc: The Accord is being worked on, as the intention I had made for it didnt seem to come out as I intended way back when. If you have ideas/thoughts/suggestions, I am not above listening to what you folks have to say about it. This is a treaty and treaties can be modified.

The Triad Consortium (formerly the Imperialistic Archonate) hereby respectfully asks to be removed from the list. We have no intention of making any jaunts back and forth through time and have deemed such things impossible (backsteps = ignorificationized) simply because, well... they are.

We have taken... a wider view.

~Baron Skye, Primarch, Triad Consortium of Godular

OOC: Also, you are definitely gonna need to clean up that listing. A goodly portion of the names listed do not play anymore.

(sigh)

There we go again, with the NS ignore-fests. Thats one reason why I don't RP with NS anymore outside of E20 (Earth 1900-2000) and Age of Imperialism.

Although I'm always game for good RP's and interesting ones (even if it includes time travel- Dr. Who, anyone?). The problem is that people are too afraid of exploring exotic, dramatic, different, and non-conformist RP's because they're like "Oh, I must win at all costs! Anything that threatens my winning is thereby IGNORED!" How many good and innoative RP's have been ruined by IGNORES?

Anyways, I had my little anti-conformist and anti-IGNORE rant.

That aside, I'd be more than happy to participate in any RP's with Balrogga, Indra Prime, and other people here who don't resort to IGNORES or the "OMG! I can't win? Screw the RP!" sort of people. My nation is essentially Post-MT so I don't have to deal with all these uber-MT war stuff floating around and all the wanking that goes with it (all these uber-tanks, uber-SD's, and crap), but my nation isn't quite FT (no FTL travel). I feel that Post-MT is the best era to RP in, as its not too futuristic, but allows for great flexibility without going overboard (especially not being far FT with uber-planet killers and uber-Death Stars and crap).

A good comparison would be 2050 - 2100 AD era stuff, and a lot of it similiar to the era of "Bladerunner", "I, Robot", and "Minority Report" movies. My main character is somewhat like Dr. Who who is capable of travelling through time, hence the presence at the Conference RP (from a while ago) and Sharina's signatory upon the Temporal Accord.

(sigh)

There we go again, with the NS ignore-fests. Thats one reason why I don't RP with NS anymore outside of E20 (Earth 1900-2000) and Age of Imperialism.

Although I'm always game for good RP's and interesting ones (even if it includes time travel- Dr. Who, anyone?). The problem is that people are too afraid of exploring exotic, dramatic, different, and non-conformist RP's because they're like "Oh, I must win at all costs! Anything that threatens my winning is thereby IGNORED!" How many good and innoative RP's have been ruined by IGNORES?

Anyways, I had my little anti-conformist and anti-IGNORE rant.

That aside, I'd be more than happy to participate in any RP's with Balrogga, Indra Prime, and other people here who don't resort to IGNORES or the "OMG! I can't win? Screw the RP!" sort of people. My nation is essentially Post-MT so I don't have to deal with all these uber-MT war stuff floating around and all the wanking that goes with it (all these uber-tanks, uber-SD's, and crap), but my nation isn't quite FT (no FTL travel). I feel that Post-MT is the best era to RP in, as its not too futuristic, but allows for great flexibility without going overboard (especially not being far FT with uber-planet killers and uber-Death Stars and crap).

A good comparison would be 2050 - 2100 AD era stuff, and a lot of it similiar to the era of "Bladerunner", "I, Robot", and "Minority Report" movies. My main character is somewhat like Dr. Who who is capable of travelling through time, hence the presence at the Conference RP (from a while ago) and Sharina's signatory upon the Temporal Accord.

The reason I'm pulling out and ignoring the Temporal Accord is because all it did in the past is barge into RPs uninvited and muck things up.

I don't ignore it simply because its uber. I ignore it simply because its impossible and it is the one portion of FT that I will rather adamantly not be a part of.

Temporal Shielding is impossible simply because there is no means to make certain that it works. Temporal Weapons are impossible for the exact same reason, as if you poof one vessel another one takes its place. Temporal Backsteps are pointless because of paradoxes, and alternate timelines are a poor attempt to explain away the paradoxes, at best.

I will recognize temporal shields but only as normal shields (if somewhat exotic), and direct-fire temporal weaponry that doesn't involve removing things from timelines, but all the other stuff doesn't deserve notice.

Hey Indra I was wondering what Temporal technologies I can develop now for my nation's size. So I can give the Temporal Research Department a Workout

Godular, I would like to point out that most of indras theories and ideas behind temporal tech are not just unfounded ideas, most of them come from strenious research, and are about as acurate as such things can be.

Temporal technology is entirely possible, or at least, as possible as lots of the other tech people use in FT. After all, every single FTL has at least one fictional component to it, but people dont go around ignoring them because of it.

Personally, I'de like to reafirm my dedication to this acord, because it is one of the longest standing in nationstates, and is a very good idea along the basis of controling many n00bish time weapons.

ooc:
Godular: a thousand years ago, everyone KNEW that the world was flat. They KNEW that the Earth was the center of the universe. In the 1800s, a patent officer said that everything that could be invented had been. Crazy religious zealots predicted the end of time coming in the year 2000.

It was imposible to fly through the air. It was impossible to go to the moon. It was impossible to transmit a signal across the ocean, to kill a man with a small metal slug from hundreds of meters away, to make light intense enough to kill, to make a tesla coil large enough to effect the Earth's magnetic field, to make an oscilator in the 1890s that could shake an entire New York City block. Except everything that I have listed just above has come to pass.

As I see it, time is just another dimensional description for an object. Just because our current description of the universe is too primative or misguided to understand such things does not mean that the potential might not be out there.



I'll keep temporal tech, as it's as realistic as FTL travel. (especially when you figure that motion/energy subset and temporal flow are closely linked...), and if used correctly can make RPs interesting. Don't let the idea that A and B are mutually exclusive get in your way. (subatomic particles have already proved that one false...)

Any of you other guys think you could answer my question towards Indra Prime. Also Godular I agree with them and what No Endorse says is true.

well, usually temp tech is developed ona bi-monthly scale, so, if your 10 months old, you can have lvl 5 temporal tech. At least thats the way we did it way back when I started playing.

Alternatively, build a tech, then ask an old hand if it sounds wankish for your pop and age.

Well you got any ideas for useful temporal tech?

I've started developing Temporal Technology for monitoring the timelines first-hand. http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10793414#post10793414

Godular, I would like to point out that most of indras theories and ideas behind temporal tech are not just unfounded ideas, most of them come from strenious research, and are about as acurate as such things can be.

Temporal technology is entirely possible, or at least, as possible as lots of the other tech people use in FT. After all, every single FTL has at least one fictional component to it, but people dont go around ignoring them because of it.

Personally, I'de like to reafirm my dedication to this acord, because it is one of the longest standing in nationstates, and is a very good idea along the basis of controling many n00bish time weapons.

Research that Indra Prime, a self-proclaimed theoretical physicist, claims to have done.

When you can point me to a peer-reviewed article in a journal with his name on it, then I'll believe it.

After all, if he's a real theoretical physicist, certainly he would have no problem providing proof to that effect.

Ok. Question: Did you guys create an alliance that destroyes temp wankers? Instead of just outright ignoring them for their foolishness?

Hmm We read through this whole thing over the past week.

While We agree with you in principle, We cannot help but wonder how you will be able to fully enforce this treaty. The naysayers have several valid points. You cannot control what is outside your jurisdictions. Your jurisdictions in this regard is minute. A mote in the infinite. Still your organization and it's influence is liken to a Fractal flange. It is and isn't insignificant.

It is a point without a reference...it needs sharper resolution of your point of view. If I may be so bold to suggest that your efforts, while although are good intentioned, they are likely to ultimately be in vain and perhaps even worsens the Timelines. If the multiversity/universe is infinite or exists in an ether a jewel hung in the Outside then how can you control that which is outside Time? Do you take up the burdens of Atlas? It would be foolish to do so. The weight of too many worlds are carried upon his shoulders...<yes that was poetic license> Why should you silly mortal want such responsibilities?

We have seen that you do believe what you profess...but perhaps your beliefs are based on different and perhaps Faulty assumptions?

If for example a nation developed a drive to go Outside and then back in? You could always catch the deviants? There is the clear answer of no...there is always a minute possibility that the incursions will escape. I will admit that perhaps you will succeed as most of the time. You yourself noted that your "fixes" were only hmmm several orders of a percent NOT effective.

That miniscule exception to the rule is as good as infinity. That break point in the timeline will birth another universe and that universe it's own meta-verse. Fractals...No? Perhaps I am mistaken...it is a possibility.

For is not the multiversity that you speak of but the potentiality of all universes. This to us implies that there is only ONE universe<you create distortions when using the term multiversity><we understand its usefulness but it's meme characteristics mutates the truth of the unity of the universes...meta-mina-all is of the Verse.

It is great and it is insignificant. How do you really find a point? It exists as but an idea...a possibility? or a probability...you have studied quantum mechanics? the Uncertainty Principle? You cannot fully contain Chaos with your Orderly pact of time. Chaos is constant change, the Flux, it birthed all of the gods and taught Shiva the dance of destruction and creation. Random things outside your control will topple your system in multiple realities. That would be the Butterfly Effect.

Now in some of those realities you will lose control of this Well Intentioned Organization...and then more than a Few you will give birth to Abominations. They will seek to exploit and destroy. They will forget their original mission. Then they will use their newly found powers to destroy you and everyone else within their fractal splinter. Make sense? Or am I rambling?

You utilize the lord Indra into your name...<grin> so close to blasphemy...delightful. I will assume you know of the myths? Do you remember all of the ones about the Primordial Soup, the Troubled Waters, and Unformed...essentially the infinite? Chaos? How about the Great seed or the Infinite Eggs?

WE have spoken enough.

Know that we acknowledge you claims to your sectors. Do NOT make Incursions into ours. We and our allies will fight you. If we feel we are about to lose WE WILL ACTIVATE the SINGULARITY EVENTS across our dimensions. Any sleepers will also activate their devices in your claims. Do not force us to fight. We seek peaceful relations and to point out your oversights.

Know this Barbarians!! We would rather destroy IT than submit...in many Realities you will destroy us! It is possible that in several realities we the Melii alone will conquer you without need for aid from our allies. It is not likely, but it is a possiblity.

Tell us this...

If the multiverse is ALL potential realities" i.e. Infinite.
THEN which is greater Infinity or Infinity?

Dance with the Gods and go in peace.


Regards,

<seal of a simple silver torus>

His Holiness, the Venerable El
The Most Mistaken, The Lost One's Blade

The Dominion of Me Li of the Isles of Mara

ooc: nice debates! lol Especially the half hidden metaphysics esoterics of temporal mechanics that were debated by the yogis sufis and other Masters over time...lol I was trying not to say time in the sentence. Ironical eh?:rolleyes: Very well written even with the foolish flamers...they added a certain "I do not Know what!?"
I tried RPing it but wasn't sure were to post this. Apologies ahead of time.
Hmm The Melii are mildly xenophobic and pretentious...again apologies if I offended.

A three dimensional holographic image of Thoth appears in the air. As the knowledge core of the Final Encyclopedia, Greater Synopticon of Entirty, it is our goal to collect the totality of human knowledge. With time travel we would be able to reach many periods of time where much knowledge was lost. Although, we do not have the technology currently, it would be our wish to go back to the time of the great library of Alexandria and copy all of its contents. With time travel, we could truly observe history as it progresses.

The problem we have with your control of time travel is the observer paradox, where the mere presence of an observer can change how an event is perceived, combined with the Butterfly Effect, even sending a person back in time threatens the validity of any continuum. The rippling effect of a single action like picking an apple or drinking a glass of water in discontinuity could create massive change. This change would not follow the predictable pattern which people intending to change timelines wanted.

More importantly, you mentioned the possibility of sidereal universes, alternate universes next to our own. If this is true, it would open unlimited space for our further expansion throughout the galaxy. We are very interested in the technologies being described. The sidereal universe technology would be far safer than the time travel technology.

Just curious about something... My FT tech nation, Nova Bazalonia... Uses what it calls Time Field Manipulation Engines... which generates a field around the engine that slows the passage of time within the field. This creates the effect that sub-light speed in-side the field is travelling at FTL Speeds outside the field. If the field where to collapse a lot of the ship would basically disintergrate.

The principle is governed on the same sort of principle as how gravity affects speed.

Can speed or fasten time... but not make it jump or flow backwards

Would this tech need to be covered under the Temporal Accord... If it does let me know and then someone appropriate can appear at my planet (ICly) and we'll get things going there. (TG me or my puppet when the thread has been started)

If not just let me know... .thanks

snip

The Temporal Accord was written to ensure that Temporal Tech was not wanked to the infinite degree and would be understood that it takes time to develop the technology. I am currently in the process of reworking parts of it to make it more specific, though it may be a while before the new version is seen.

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As long as the proper protocols are observed and maintained, there should be minimal (if any) problems that occur as a result of being an observer. Time is very maleable and With minimalistic problems occuring everything will find a way to restructure themselves. If any major problems occur, we will step in to correct the error, or some other nation with that capability will do so in our stead.

As for obtaining and utilizing the technology discussed, we will be more than happy to discuss it with you.

Bazalonia']snip

Pretty much its the effects of a time dilation field on a body with mass. It wouldnt necessarily cause problems, however, it would cover all basis if you sign the accord and learn from the more veteran nations with this type of technology the side effects and possible ramifications your drive may have.

The people of Nova Bazalonia wishes to sign this accord and discuss potential problems and situations that may arise from the use of out TFME drives and any applications of core technology.

OOC: I'll probably just stick with time dilation tech..

Ok... so how does the temporal accord do that?

Ok... so how does the temporal accord do that?

By essentially creating a "Time Police"... If you break the rules you will get puinished... break them hard enough and they wipe you out. Simple.

We are not so much interested in travelling back in time, but the ability to cross time lines into other alternate timelines or parallel worlds. We are especially interested in ways to use the Many Worlds Theory to gain access to a huge amount of territory in a very small amount of territory. Have multiple "territories" across current parallels. Please let us know if this would be possible.

I am not sure that this would be a temporal problem so much as a multiversal problem.

Sagit is also interested. We are explorers, mostly deep-space, but naturally the ability to travel back in time, or to parallel worlds as Commonalitarianism mentions is too tempting to ignore. We have done some time-travel, but our abilities are rudimentary, and we haven't pursued it as much as we'd like because of the danger. Something as simple as saving someone from a traffic accident could change the outcome of a war!

The Imperial Nycarian Grand Navy of SeaQuest will sign this accord. Temporal technologies are dangerous in the wrong hands and should be kept in check.

Signed,
Emperor Nathan Hale Bridger

OOC: Its about time I got around to doing this.
IP, I have a few temp tech ideas I would like to discuss with you over MSN.

If you wish to sign the Accord, I will need your nations comlete name (ie The such and such of <insert name>, etc)

It should be noted that the Temporal Accord does not claim jurisdiction over secondary and tertiary timelines. It only provides this type of protection on the realm of the Primary Timeline and the surrounding 'space'. It would be logistically impossible to monitor and patrol an infinite number of timelines that have sprouted off from the Primary Timeline and would be foolish at best to even attempt to do so. All the Accord does, is provide the regulations necessary to make sure no problems can occur of a drastic nature that has the potential to do serious harm to this timeline and all subsequent timelines. We monitor the development and destruction of secondary timelines however we do not interfere in their affairs unless those affairs become a clear and present danger to the Primary Timeline and its inhabitants.

Any questions you may have or anything that you wish to discuss will need to be brought up so they may be answered or taken care of.

OOC: Sorry about that, IP. Its been so long since I used it, I got in the habit of using the shorthand version. My bad. I'll go back and edit my previous post.

The Futuristic Planet of Nova Bazalonia wishes to sign the Temporal Accord

I was wondering if there are any interesting RP's going on with the Temporal Accord?

I'm mainly a post-MT nation as I'm sick of stat-wanking and tech-wanking in MT eras and FT eras. The post-MT era is quite flexible, but doesn't necessitate such wank as FT or MT requires.

Again, I was wondering if there's any RP's (Post-MT if any) with anyone here in the Temporal Accord? I'm looking for something nice and interesting to RP- mostly either character or exploration driven RP's, not one of these "war-wank" or "stat-wank" RP's.

Sharina, if you are interested in a RP, contact me and we can discuss what possibilities there are, even if its in an isolated RP, away from all major RP lines.

The Concordance hereby signs this Agreement. While we have no intention of develouping this technology at present, we would like the option avalible in the future.

Anisarian.

We welcome the signature of the Anasarii Concordance! Your support will help improve the manpower we have to protect the STC. We will go ahead and immediately add your nation to the long list of distinguished nations who have agreed to assist us in protecting the STC from agressors. Thanks for your support!

The United Empire Of Planets Of Jarvon will sign the accord.

OOC: Meh, I had to give enough IC time for my nation to find out IC'ly about this thing.

The Dark Empire of Shadow SeaQuest will sign the Temporal Accord.

Signed,
Prince Phobos

The Light Empire Of SeaQuest DSV will sign this accord.

Signed,
Princess Elyon Weena Brown

OOC: Wow; three Seaquests in as many posts...

OOC: Wow; three Seaquests in as many posts...
OOC: Meh, I'm here to RP, not to have some TA member jump in and mess things up.

OOC: Adds a bit of variety. Try not to think of it as rape, so much as surprise sex :D

OOC: Might as well get this over with and out of the way. Like SQ, I'm here to RP and not to worry that some TA signer's going to barge in and ruin my story.

IC: The Ancient Zoidian Star League Of Planet Zi has gone over and perused this so called 'Temporal' Accord. As no one can know what the future might bring, and that we like our privacy and would prefer to be left alone, we shall sign this accord in the interests of maintaining our soverignty.

Signed,
The Zoidian Council

OOC: Adds a bit of variety. Try not to think of it as rape, so much as surprise sex :D

It's more fun that way. And less humiliating/demoralizing.

It's more fun that way. And less humiliating/demoralizing.

OOC: The story should be the primary focus and not if some lone tech breaches some old accord that hardly anyone remembers.

OOC: It can, on occasion, add to the story. Besides, everyone remembers the TA, and it stops people destroying the continuum and undoing reality :) I haven't signed it and I don't get rained on, because I don't mess with temporal mechanics. We can't conquer and enslave a broken universe

Is there a story to the course of history? Or do we merely attepmt to distort it until it fits our own selfish 'themes' or our miniscule ways of pretending we understand the infinite complexities of existance? History travels on, never stopping for the selfish whims of the few. Why should we here be so haughty as to proclaim otherwise? Merely signing this accord will not stop the masses. It shall only divert their approach, give you time to prepare.

Never feel safe, for safety does not exist in reality, nor does it here.

The Empire of 1010102 signs the accord.

OCC: can som,eone give me the basics of Temporal Tech?

OOC: Where has IP dissappeared to?
OCC: can som,eone give me the basics of Temporal Tech?
Have you read the first post? A lot of info on it can be found there, IIRC.

[ooc:Yo Indra, just a request, could you change it to the United Imperium of Naggeroth rather then the Ansarii Concordance? Thankies.]

It's a very large, very wooden, and very mechanical object. The clock hands are ornate, and the numbers so over-ornated they're barely readable.

The object drifts through time, at a four-dimensional velocity of an entire second per second.

Tick. Tock. Tick. Tock. Tick. Tock.

Inside it, clockworks act, while at some distant - spacially as well as temporally speaking - point, Swatch operatives spend their time cleaning their desks.

They do that during the majority of their exactly-eight-hours-a-day-five-days-a-week-and-not-a-second-longer of work. Only a clean working place is an acceptable working place, and nobody wants to experience the effects of having a dirty one.

The last one who did... Well, thats for another time.

Tick. Tock.

To: Whom it may concern, The Temporal Accord
From: The Temporal Hegemony of Clock Manufacturers
Subject: The Temporal Accord

Honoured Sirs,

We, the Temporal Hegemony of Clock Manufacturers, must note with a degree of sadness what you've done by crafting this document.

While we are only too aware that a legally binding, clearly phrased, neutrally-written, restrictive, authoritative, decorative, at-least-fourty-two paragraphs-and-seven-amendments long, bureaucratically consistent, grammatically correct, printed-on-white-paper, kept safe in a swiss bank, and approved by the civilised entities throughout creation document is a necessity for everything from going to the toilet to going to war - both of which being dirty endeavours requiring declarations of intend and approximations on their likely durations in three copies -, we cannot honestly agree with the document you've crafted with regards to temporal technologies and their use, as well as restrictions thereof.

Our specific objections are as follows:

Article I We deem it of extreme importance to restrict access to the creation of temporal technologies to ourselves, and nobody else (Especially not those pesky yellow bastards). As such, this article strikes us as being notably too soft and, in fact, as promoting the wrong idea: It promotes the development of temporal technologies by non-swatch related entities.

Which is unacceptable.

Simultaneously, this article explicitly prohibits the proliferation of temporal technologies.

We have issues with this. While we do of course realise the need to restrict development by other entities to zero, proliferation of the finished product is a necessity, in order to get business rolling.

As such, prohibiting us from exchanging temporal technology for the gold teeth of the unfortunately deceased is a catastrophically bad idea, and not one we intend to put up with.

Article II See above. We proliferate. We provide. We profit.

Article III We agree in principle - nobody but us should be allowed to produce any kind of temporal technology. However, the idea of allowing anyone but us to do so 'If they mature' strikes us as decidedly counterproductive.

We are, after all, the only actually mature society, as proven by the unmatched clean-ness of our desks.

Article IV The above does, in essence, apply to this one, too.

Article V This one, we agree with. And while we doubt that anybody could match our skill - again, we're clearly more mature and advanced than anybody else. Ever seen the mechanical clockworks of our temporal devices? -, assistance is always appreciated.

Article VI We agree with the 'Development' part, although it really should be covered by earlier articles. However, why should selling them be illegitimate? We need more gold!

Article VII Generally, see above. Although we do have to wonder why the paragraph is there - it stands to reason that if they are forbidden, Indra Prime doesn't possess (And has, presumably, not developed them, either) them, and as such lacks the means to actually deal with the issue, should it come up.

We prefer our own, slightly overarmed means.

Article VIII We do, obviously, disagree with the idea of Indra Prime being in charge of anything. Well, not quite correct - we'd agree with Indra Prime being our mouthpiece and tool in ensuring our own, temporal dominance.

Article IX Apart from threats having no place in alliance-related documents, apart from boosting the egos of the author, we must note that no, there are no nations with greater temporal abilities than us. Fnor- erm, Swatch.

Article X Is reasonable, if it wasn't for the fact that it's redundant, once you reach a certain level on clarity regarding temporal technologies.

Article XI See above.

Article XII Now, if you changed that to 'Only the Temporal Hegemony of Clock Manufacturers may...'

Article XIII Redundant, and limiting possibilities, not to mention markets. May I interest you in the Swatch 2001: Odyssee through Time, complete with ornate woodwork?

Article XIV A bit wasteful, isn't it? We would use everything available to us.

Article XV Without the agreement or knowledge of the signatories?


We therefore propose the following changes:


Article I The Temporal Accord is a tool of the Temporal Hegemony of Clock Manufacturers, and responsible for enforcing strict limits on the development of temporal technologies throughout the multiverse. It'll receive its technology exclusively from the Temporal Hegemony of Clock Manufacturers, and generally do as the Temporal Hegemony of Clock Manufacturers tells them to.

Article II All other, previous articles of the Temporal Accord are superceded by this addition


Obviously, we cannot join the Temporal Accord as it exists right now. However, should you decide to incorporate the changes we've proposed, we'd sure that a long, and profitable relationship could be established.

Yours,

Samuel Zwingly, CEO, Swatch, The Temporal Hegemony of Clock Manufacturers

Tick.

It's very large, very wooden, and very mechanical.

Tock.

It isn't.

That's just asking to be killed. *points and laughs*

I believe, sir, that you should go back to Middle School (Or, Elementary, providing you aren't in Middle School, as I am inclined to believe) and learn the concept of parody and humor, not only did your sad attempt at parody fail at humor, but its aparent lack of intelligence just made you look extremely sad.

ooc: you need international (3rd party) recognition to be somewhere near legit, aye? Well, here it is.

IC:
No Endorse applauds Clock Manufacturers on its... 'intense' opposition to the Temporal Accord. It is good to see that not all nations are falling under the ruthless hegemony of the Temporal Incursion Fleets. However, we question the wisdom of the reasons behind the opposition. For it is quite easy to be right for the wrong reasons.

We support a completly open temporal plane, and intend to do our part to develop and proliferate temporal technology. Only through knowledge can the universe become a steward of itself. We do not need pathetic police states attempting to enforce their petty whims apon us. We need a collective of the willing, all on the same page, proceeding forwards without this autocratic document. Yes, this autocratic that seeks to prolong, and even increasing, the technology gap, can only end in the captors abusing the captives.

No Endorse re-affirms it's open and outright defiance of this soiled shred of parchment. We shall unlock the secrets of the temporal plane on our own terms. May the Gods forsake you unto the hundreth generation of thy seed.

ooc I am going to have to say kudo's to clock manufacturers, no offense to anyone who likes time travel or takes this accord seriously, but the truth is we are all time travellers, at one second per second.

Clock manufacturers, that was some damn funny stuff. Admittedly i tend to agree because i oocly find the idea silly, and icly really dont accept temporal technology as any great and fancy thing. All going back in time and killing the race your fighting does is create a new fractal where they dont exist. You still have to keep fighting them in theirs ;). That and all time travel really is, is a side effect of gravitic technology [ie going faster or slower], as the space time continuum is also, gravity.. So let people make time machines all they want I say, it doesnt affect me. Literally anything beyond a gun is a gun in the case of temporal weapons is ignored. There is no time travel in Tannelorn, except forwards at 1 second a second, or perhaps 1.3 seconds a second with a ubecht field on, or 0.5 :p.


But i still think that was very witty. Even if it was a tad rude to put it in to their rather serious thread. So to be fair, really clever and witty, but shouldnt have been put in this thread.