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Skeelzania
16-02-2005, 00:22
80 trillion just for the secondary armament? Ugh, this is gonna be expensive. Though I guess I can lay off the capital ships for a few decades.

I don't want to spend any extra money trying to figure out how to fire a rock through a shield, I'll try and find a replacement energy weapon somewhere. Might have an improbability cannon or two lying around.

I'm going to post a little while later with my full wish-list.
Kanuckistan
16-02-2005, 16:41
Hey, Guess what day it is!

Sorry for the delay; please accept this complimentary bottle of Château de Kanata spiced blueberry wine, bottled the year your ship was laid down, with our compliments. You can save it or smash it against the side of the ship.

Speaking of which, your Pyric Divinity-Class Imperium Evicerator is waiting for you in Earth orbit.
East Coast Federation
16-02-2005, 22:14
Thank you very much.
The last payment is arriving.

And so is the crew. The ship will arive in a few days to pick it up.

We thank you for doing business.
Skeelzania
17-02-2005, 01:40
Wish List for the 'Solomon Gate':
Command and Control center for coordination of Skeelzanian military
Full gravity
Space for 1200 fighters and other small craft, up to Gunship class (70x60m tops)
Capability to operate independently for six standard months
Barracks for 2000 marines
Docking for heavy cruiser-class warships (not drydock, just ability to attach and offload personnel and supplies)
FTLi devices covering at least 140,000 square kilometers
Hyperspacial monitoring devices (we can supply these)

That’s what I can list off the top of my head. I’ll probably ask for some sort of super-weapon to be installed on the top or bottom. How much would one of those Plasma-wave-thingers cost?
Kanuckistan
18-02-2005, 20:21
Wish List for the 'Solomon Gate':
Command and Control center for coordination of Skeelzanian military
Full gravity
Space for 1200 fighters and other small craft, up to Gunship class (70x60m tops)
Capability to operate independently for six standard months
Barracks for 2000 marines
Docking for heavy cruiser-class warships (not drydock, just ability to attach and offload personnel and supplies)
FTLi devices covering at least 140,000 square kilometers
Hyperspacial monitoring devices (we can supply these)

That’s what I can list off the top of my head. I’ll probably ask for some sort of super-weapon to be installed on the top or bottom. How much would one of those Plasma-wave-thingers cost?

Plasma-wave-thingers? You mean a superheavy? Around 42 trillion a pop.

Your FTLi request is also odd, is specifying 2D area rather than 3D volume or the more practical radius or diamiter specifications.
Skeelzania
20-02-2005, 18:18
Plasma-wave-thingers? You mean a superheavy? Around 42 trillion a pop.

Your FTLi request is also odd, is specifying 2D area rather than 3D volume or the more practical radius or diamiter specifications.

I thought I put in a 3D number. Perhaps I meant "cubed." That is what I want, a 3D field of coverage.

I'll get back to you regarding the superheavies...
Kanuckistan
21-02-2005, 02:44
I thought I put in a 3D number. Perhaps I meant "cubed." That is what I want, a 3D field of coverage.

I'll get back to you regarding the superheavies...

I find defining feild volume in terms of radius is best; it instantly tells someone how close they can get to you befor encountering it. A volume measurment is much less important.

Also, for those less versed with area and volume measurments, they can be deceptive; I mean, if I remember the formula right, a circular 2D 'area' of 140'000 square kilometers(what you requested) would only be ~211 kilometers in radius - for 140k cubic kilometers, the radius would be alot smaller(a cube 52 kilometers a side has a volume of 140608 cubic kilometers; I'm too lazy to look up the formula for the area of a sphere, but it would net a similar diamater, and thus the radius would probally be around 26 kilometers).
Kanuckistan
22-02-2005, 04:20
bump
Skeelzania
22-02-2005, 04:32
Then change my FTLi order from "kilometers square" to "having a radius of at least..."

How long exactly should such a structure take to build? I ask so as to work out an appropriate payment schedule. We will be taking two super-heavy cannons by the way (one mounted on each "pole").
Kanuckistan
22-02-2005, 06:34
Then change my FTLi order from "kilometers square" to "having a radius of at least..."

How long exactly should such a structure take to build? I ask so as to work out an appropriate payment schedule. We will be taking two super-heavy cannons by the way (one mounted on each "pole").

Two or three RL months, depending on the final specs.

By the way, for an armour protection value equivilent to a Battleplate, utalising mostly SAPL, the hull cost would aproximate 150 trillion - if you would like Darkforge Battleplate protecting the two superheavies, that's another 10 trillion and a minimum 100 RL 'day' production time, but renders the two most obvious targets all but indestructible.


Anyway, I've thrown together a quick summary and cost estimate, with a few modifications; please mention if I've forgot anything.

Preliminary Summary for the 'Solomon Gate':

Estimated Cost: 692 Trillion USD


Command and Control center for coordination of Skeelzanian military
Full gravity
Space for 1200 fighters and other small craft, up to Gunship class (70x60m tops)
Capability to operate independently for six standard years
Barracks for 2000 marines
Docking for heavy cruiser-class warships (not drydock, just ability to attach and offload personnel and supplies)
Hyperspacial monitoring devices (we can supply these)

-Cryo-Atomic Lased 'Particle-Wave' Beam Weaponry(all on fast-tracking turrets)
3000 Light Cannon(anti-fighter/corvette) - 5 lightsecond/1.5 MSK range
750 Medium Cannon(anti-frigate/cruiser) - 5 lightsecond/1.5 MSK range
2 Super-Heavy Cannon(anti-everything; cuts through planets like butter) - 15 lightsecond/4.5 MSK range

300 Varriable Inertial Launch Tubes rated at .25 Cee

Standing Barrier feild capible of eating planet-rending firepower befor failing

2 Gravitic Shear Projectors('gravy guns'); effective hard-kill range 5000km

FTL Inhibitors(Max Range; 3MSK/10 light seconds):
Warp Field Inhibitors
Hyperspace Interdictors
Quantum Resonance Jammers
Gravitic Shadow Casters
TrueSpace Barrier-Effectors

Gravitic 'Inversion' Feild w/ 90deg arc area of effect


Inertial direct drive(IDD) nodes capible of 25 gravities acceleration
Skeelzania
22-02-2005, 07:15
Looks good. I'll probably get to work on my own render, unless you have any specific picture in mind.

Alright, with the extra cost and time of Darkforge armor for the main cannons factored in, and a conservative build-time estimate of 100 'days,' in order for me to have this thing payed off by the time if finishes construction I'll have to pay you 7.02 trillion each 'day'. I'll probably pay you half this, so it'll take an extra 100 days to pay off. Of course if you don't like that I suppose I can pay you 7.02 a 'day.'

I'm assuming this will be built in some secret Kanuckistani yard, and hyperjumped to a La Grange point, no?
Kanuckistan
22-02-2005, 08:41
Looks good. I'll probably get to work on my own render, unless you have any specific picture in mind.


Nope: just keep in mind that fact that everything that doesn't have to be exposed is under thick, heavy slabs of armour.


Alright, with the extra cost and time of Darkforge armor for the main cannons factored in, and a conservative build-time estimate of 100 'days,' in order for me to have this thing payed off by the time if finishes construction I'll have to pay you 7.02 trillion each 'day'. I'll probably pay you half this, so it'll take an extra 100 days to pay off. Of course if you don't like that I suppose I can pay you 7.02 a 'day.'


It's actually an extra 10 trillion atop of the 692 for the Darkforge; I wasn't sure if you'd go for it or not.

And you can take however long you want to pay, within reason; you just can't take delivery until you've finished paying for it; you understand that we have to cover our asses when it comes to projects of this expense.

Oh, and we've just managed to get a design for a gravitic slip-feild aproved for export by the DoD, if you're interested; unfortunatly, it'll cost 8 trillion to build, and another full trill for exportible Gravity-B generators to allow for full simulated gravity despite the slip-feild negating normal gravitational interactions. Still, given the cost of this ship, it'd probally be a good investment; gravity weapons can be nasty buggers.



I'm assuming this will be built in some secret Kanuckistani yard, and hyperjumped to a La Grange point, no?

Basicly.

A capital-grade displacer platform will be used to teleport it to pre-arranged coordinates within it's destination system. After that, it can reposition under it's own power - 25 gees of thrust isn't a whole lot by most standards, but it's plenty for interplanetary travel if ya ain't in a hurry; you can make 1% Cee in three and a half hours.

If you opt for a gravitic slip-feild, you'll also need to remain under-power to some small degree if you intend to maintain a relative stationary position relative to a planetary body or moving point, or simply match speeds with the centeral star and coast along with zero relative velocity to the system's hub; you can't exactly orbit a planet or sit in a La Grange when you're not affected by gravity, afterall, unless you're under power.
Skeelzania
22-02-2005, 09:17
I had already factored in the extra 10 tril in my calculations.

Skeelzania currently uses Tachyon Inertial Dampners that work by essentially suspending all laws of physcis in a given area. It's what keeps our dreadnoughts from snapping in half during a turn. A side-effect is the generation of gravitational field. We can ship you a few generators for installation on the station, if it'll save us money. But first we'll need a rough size estimate.
Kanuckistan
22-02-2005, 11:37
I had already factored in the extra 10 tril in my calculations.

Skeelzania currently uses Tachyon Inertial Dampners that work by essentially suspending all laws of physcis in a given area. It's what keeps our dreadnoughts from snapping in half during a turn. A side-effect is the generation of gravitational field. We can ship you a few generators for installation on the station, if it'll save us money. But first we'll need a rough size estimate.

Oh no, no; a gravitic slip-feild prevents matter within it's area of effect(usually hull-hugging with a few meters standoff) from interacting with gravity, both externally and internally generated.

Gravity-B(technicly called 'I-Can't-Belive-It's-Not-Gravity' because it's damn near identical, but mainly without the space-warping aspect of actual gravity) is one of several artifical forces invented by Contextual Mechanics physicists, and the most economical method of simulating gravity in a gravitic slipfeild without resorting to tacticly unsound rotating segments(a standing inertial feild gradient effector system would also be cheaper, but not so much as to justijy the complexity of maintaince and, in certain areas, accident avoidance, as was demonstrated on Battleplates first outfitted with SIFG effectors and gravitic slipfeilds during the first Shivan War); the main reason it's so expensive for you is the need to redesign exported technology to render it nigh-impossible to reverse engineer, as requiored by Kanuckistani law, and because this tech is brand new to the export sector.

Of course, if you don't wish to go with the gravitic slipfeild, Gravity-B generators are redundent.
Skeelzania
22-02-2005, 20:26
I suppose we'll go with the slipfields then.

BTW, do you use the 1 day=1 year rule, or just impose the build time so I don't whip this thing out in the middle of a RP?
Kanuckistan
23-02-2005, 07:20
I suppose we'll go with the slipfields then.

BTW, do you use the 1 day=1 year rule, or just impose the build time so I don't whip this thing out in the middle of a RP?

Day=Year rule; if you'll look back, you'll see that all large orders have a build time associated with them. And Darkforce Battleplate was established to take a century to properly craft back on '03.

Of course, the fact that it keeps you from being able to wave cash and instantly bulk up your fleet with anything but smaller ships is an added plus, IMO.

Anyway, total cost now comes to $711 Trillion USD, with an estimated completion time of June 3rd, 2005, iRL Absoloute Calander, if we start construction today, Febuary 23rd, iRL.

If all details are acceptible, you need but confirm the order and lay out a requested payment schedule, mindful of the fact that you can't take delivery until you've finished paying it off.
Skeelzania
23-02-2005, 07:23
Does 7.11 trillion a day sound reasonable? I'll also be assuming that all the other quirks inherent in Skeelzanian vessels are included. Once its done I'll probably drop another trillion outfitting the Admiral's quarters.
Kanuckistan
23-02-2005, 07:35
Does 7.11 trillion a day sound reasonable? I'll also be assuming that all the other quirks inherent in Skeelzanian vessels are included. Once its done I'll probably drop another trillion outfitting the Admiral's quarters.

Aye, sounds good; and any design quirks you'd logicly ICly request but didn't bother with here - unless it's a major functional issue or particularly expensive - can be assumed to be included.
Sephrioth
23-02-2005, 08:26
dear kanuckistan the milltiry fleet of sephrioth requirs a large missile frigite that can take up to a 7000 megaton nuclear weapon. custom bult and equip with gravity well generators
Kanuckistan
23-02-2005, 09:02
dear kanuckistan the milltiry fleet of sephrioth requirs a large missile frigite that can take up to a 7000 megaton nuclear weapon. custom bult and equip with gravity well generators

Request denied because of:
-observed lack of RP ability
-you may have been obliterated, and thus couldn't make payment.
Sephrioth
23-02-2005, 09:05
ok
East Coast Federation
23-02-2005, 13:47
Request denied because of:
-observed lack of RP ability
-you may have been obliterated, and thus couldn't make payment.
I think he has, on more than 10 occasions.

From StarFleet:

We have given the new ship some shakedown crusises and found there to no problems with the new battleship.

However we are interested in a ship, about 5km Long, and it's only armerments are PDF and Misslies, I want a huge missle boat.
Kanuckistan
24-02-2005, 10:23
I think he has, on more than 10 occasions.

From StarFleet:

We have given the new ship some shakedown crusises and found there to no problems with the new battleship.

However we are interested in a ship, about 5km Long, and it's only armerments are PDF and Misslies, I want a huge missle boat.

Please take a look at the Ashen Wind-Class Missile Cruiser in the first post; it is smaller, but basicly what you apear to be after.

And having multipule smaller vessels is generally a good idea in regaurds to missile-dominated armaments, as they distribute their armament and incoming fire across a larger number of targets, as well as being easier to replace and less important if lost, all the while maintaining equal or greater firepower compared to a single vessel - missiles don't typicly requior massive powerplants or gun assemblies, afterall, and so can be split up amoungst many smaller vessels without reducing their potential lethality.
Kanuckistan
25-02-2005, 02:37
bump
Kanuckistan
26-02-2005, 10:10
bumpity
Kanuckistan
28-02-2005, 18:24
bump
Rinceweed
28-02-2005, 21:29
Request denied because of:
-observed lack of RP ability
-you may have been obliterated, and thus couldn't make payment.

He could pay in...uh...Glass!
Kanuckistan
01-03-2005, 12:49
He could pay in...uh...Glass!

Given how frequently nations are glassed these days, glass markets have been flooded beyond saturation; the stuff's damn near worthless. :p
Kanuckistan
02-03-2005, 04:18
bump
East Coast Federation
02-03-2005, 04:24
OOC: Is it possible to add missle tubes to that ship I purchased?
Kanuckistan
02-03-2005, 06:31
OOC: Is it possible to add missle tubes to that ship I purchased?

Yes; fairly straightforward, actually - cutting a hole in the hull to fire out through would probally be the hardest part.
East Coast Federation
02-03-2005, 06:39
OOC: Ok cool, I should find somthing that could cut though. it.
Kanuckistan
02-03-2005, 19:59
bump
Kanuckistan
03-03-2005, 15:46
bump
Kanuckistan
04-03-2005, 20:23
bumpity
East Coast Federation
07-03-2005, 03:59
OOC: Is it remotely possible, that you could build me a batteplate, with none of the classified stuff on it? But still uber powerful? I know it would 500 Trillion Plus, or even more, but I'd figure SOME WAY to pay it off!
Kanuckistan
07-03-2005, 04:46
OOC: Is it remotely possible, that you could build me a batteplate, with none of the classified stuff on it? But still uber powerful? I know it would 500 Trillion Plus, or even more, but I'd figure SOME WAY to pay it off!

Closer to two or three times that; a toned down version cost nearly 700 trillion.

And as I notice the seemingly rapid proliferation of uberships, I become reluctant to build more. I feel it's bad for RP in general; promotes too much one-up-manship between players.
East Coast Federation
07-03-2005, 06:53
OOC: I plan to retire 2 of my ships ( as in large uber ships ), and need a huge replacement. I go down the line of " Small Number Of Large Ships " . For example, some people use alot of smaller ships. And I consider that just the same. And I perfer to fight in smaller numbers. Now, I know it'd be really expensive. But If I started paying now, how long would it take to build?
Kanuckistan
07-03-2005, 07:39
OOC: I plan to retire 2 of my ships ( as in large uber ships ), and need a huge replacement. I go down the line of " Small Number Of Large Ships " . For example, some people use alot of smaller ships. And I consider that just the same. And I perfer to fight in smaller numbers. Now, I know it'd be really expensive. But If I started paying now, how long would it take to build?

OOC:
As things stand, I've no intention of building any more uberships for a while.
East Coast Federation
07-03-2005, 07:40
OOC: Meh, thatss, ok, I thought it would take like 4 RL months to build, and in the meantime I'd use what I have now, oh well. I'll look for a new contractor. But I would want some of those missle boats.
Kanuckistan
07-03-2005, 07:45
OOC:
But I would want some of those missle boats.

OOC:
Ashen Wind-class or something custom? You never did reply to that.
East Coast Federation
07-03-2005, 21:13
OOC: Oh yeah, I'll think about it.
But the offer is still around, I was assuming somthing like that would take at least 3 RL months to build. The ship you already built me is really nice, but I dont expect it to last anymore than that.
Kanuckistan
08-03-2005, 04:48
bump
East Coast Federation
08-03-2005, 21:36
OOC: Ok I have a order I would like to place, but I need to know if you'd be willing to do it.

I need escort ships, to escort my battleplates, inculding the one you bought me.
Picture http://s4.invisionfree.com/USF_Communications/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=8610524
Size Scale: http://s4.invisionfree.com/USF_Communications/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=8619139
The little triangle is an ISD.
I want some escorts that can properly defend it from smaller attackers. My current escort wont cut it, the Geenway, it's next to the ISD, ( look for it, it's really small )

Can you build me some well balanced escorts? Im willing to go up to about 2 Trillion Per ship.

Photo Credit = Xessmithia
Xessmithia
09-03-2005, 00:33
Both pictures created by myself. All but the first three of the models from left to right in the scale picture are ships in my navy.
UntdCapitalistRepublic
09-03-2005, 03:02
If I spend some if the UntdCapitalistRepublic's defense budget here, how long would it take for the UCR to be able to spend its total defense budget again. I need to know this before I make an order.
East Coast Federation
09-03-2005, 03:04
An NS year, but no one is exactly sure how long that is, it seems to randomly change.
UntdCapitalistRepublic
10-03-2005, 03:01
1 x Zenith-Class Battlecruiser = 42 billion

2 x Kobold-Class Patrol/Combatant = 4 billion

total: 44 billion

money will be wired on confirmation

Thanks in advance
Kanuckistan
10-03-2005, 06:28
OOC: Ok I have a order I would like to place, but I need to know if you'd be willing to do it.

I need escort ships, to escort my battleplates, inculding the one you bought me.
Picture http://s4.invisionfree.com/USF_Communications/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=8610524
Size Scale: http://s4.invisionfree.com/USF_Communications/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=8619139
The little triangle is an ISD.
I want some escorts that can properly defend it from smaller attackers. My current escort wont cut it, the Geenway, it's next to the ISD, ( look for it, it's really small )

Can you build me some well balanced escorts? Im willing to go up to about 2 Trillion Per ship.

Photo Credit = Xessmithia


What about the Fell Warden? That's 1.337 trillion.





If I spend some if the UntdCapitalistRepublic's defense budget here, how long would it take for the UCR to be able to spend its total defense budget again. I need to know this before I make an order.

You can't spend your entire defence budget on new purchases every year; you have to also pay your military personel, house and feed them, pay for thousands of incidentalcosts including fuel and ammo, and also pay for the upkeep of your existing military hardware and infastructure.


1 x Zenith-Class Battlecruiser = 42 billion

2 x Kobold-Class Patrol/Combatant = 4 billion

total: 44 billion

money will be wired on confirmation

Thanks in advance

Seeing as your defence budget is only 37 billion (http://thirdgeek.com/nseconomy/nseconomy.php?nation=UntdCapitalistRepublic), I recomend you make payment over 3 to 5 years to stretch out the cost - most space-tech nations seem to go by "1 NS year = 1 RL day", BTW; atleast outside of specific RP threads.
East Coast Federation
10-03-2005, 21:18
OOC: Dunno, I just want somthing custom.
UntdCapitalistRepublic
11-03-2005, 01:25
how did you figure 37 billion as my defense budget? I'm using http://www.sunsetrpg.com/economystatistics.php
and it list my defense budget at 53 billion.
Anyways, I'll rethink what I'm ordering and let you know soon.
Kanuckistan
11-03-2005, 14:53
OOC: Dunno, I just want somthing custom.

OOC:
What if I gold-plate the toilets?





how did you figure 37 billion as my defense budget? I'm using http://www.sunsetrpg.com/economystatistics.php
and it list my defense budget at 53 billion.
Anyways, I'll rethink what I'm ordering and let you know soon.


http://nseconomy.thirdgeek.com/nseconomy.php?nation=UntdCapitalistRepublic

The text "your defence budget is only 37 billion (http://thirdgeek.com/nseconomy/nseconomy.php?nation=UntdCapitalistRepublic)" was a link, yaknow ;)


It doesn't really matter, however, but I'd still sugest spreading the cost over several 'years' unless you don't have any standing military to speak of yet.
East Coast Federation
11-03-2005, 23:15
OOC: * rolls eyes * Maybe, maybe, However I want somthing with more punch than one of those.
Kanuckistan
12-03-2005, 02:23
OOC: * rolls eyes * Maybe, maybe, However I want somthing with more punch than one of those.

Can you be more specific? Or shall I have the yard dogs paint hundred-meter tall action-poses of Mr. T on the side of the ships?
East Coast Federation
12-03-2005, 03:38
Can you be more specific? Or shall I have the yard dogs paint hundred-meter tall action-poses of Mr. T on the side of the ships?
OOC: Well, I want the Fell Warden-Class Battle Dreadnaught kinda firepower, Jammed into a smaller package, and with enhanced ship-ship capibilitys.
Kanuckistan
12-03-2005, 03:50
enhanced ship-ship capibilitys.

Care to clarify that?
Ulntran warriors
12-03-2005, 04:38
The Warriors of Ulntran Warriors would like to commision a long range cruiser. We would like this Cruiser to be equiped with the best possible equipment, inside our price range. Weaponry would be medium-light, with mostly point defence and turret weapons, and guided missles for long range combat. Crew:250

The High Warrior:
James W. Gravistorm
Leader of Ulntran Warriors,
Leader of all colonies, space stations, exc. of Ulntran Warriors
Kanuckistan
12-03-2005, 06:01
The Warriors of Ulntran Warriors would like to commision a long range cruiser. We would like this Cruiser to be equiped with the best possible equipment, inside our price range. Weaponry would be medium-light, with mostly point defence and turret weapons, and guided missles for long range combat. Crew:250

The High Warrior:
James W. Gravistorm
Leader of Ulntran Warriors,
Leader of all colonies, space stations, exc. of Ulntran Warriors

Please take note of the Zenith-Class Battlecruiser in the first post, and make sugestions utalising that ship as a base of refference.
East Coast Federation
12-03-2005, 15:12
Care to clarify that?
OOC: Maybe I shouldn't be responding at 4 in the morning.
All I want is a Fell Warden class with higher yeilded weapons, and more manuerble. And make it as small as possible,
Kanuckistan
13-03-2005, 16:39
OOC: Maybe I shouldn't be responding at 4 in the morning.
All I want is a Fell Warden class with higher yeilded weapons, and more manuerble. And make it as small as possible,

How's this?


Inferiority Complex-Class Battle Dreadnaught

Basicly a Fell Warden, with roughly a 1/3rd increase in forward firepower, a 750 meter decrease is length, and a 20% increase in maneuveribility; point defence batteries have also been upgunned by 40%.

Of course, it costs more, and you loose most of the marine capasity.

Price: 2'050 Billion

Legnth:
-3500m
Crew:
-750
Marine Compliment:
-500
Powerplant:
-24x High-End Civilian-Grade Hawking Matter-Annilation Plant w/ Nuetronium superfluid fuel system(can effectivly use any matter for fuel)
Endurance:
-19 years(food)
-25 years(signifigant maintaince)
-500 years(fuel; max non-combat output)
-100 Hours(max combat output)
Drive:
-High-End Civilian-grade Reactionless Inertial Direct-Drive
-Internal Rotary-Control Gyros
-Basic Gravitic Hyperspace Induction Field Drive(holds ship in near-hyperspace while powered); modular and easily replaced.
Acceleration:
-525 gees sustained
-60deg/sec rotation
-17.5 lightyears/hour(FTL)
Armament:
-12x 450 Gigaton CryoAtomic Lased Particle Beam Pulse Cannon(fixed, forward); 50 second cycle rate
-2x 2.5 Gigaton CryoAtomic Lased Particle Beam Pulse Cannon(fixed, aft); 30 second cycle rate
-24x Internal Missile Racks(6x per side); 20x20x20m volume.
-36x 35 Terajoule Pulse Lasers(Fast-Tracking Turrets, Point-Defence); .5 sec cycle rate
Carriage:
-2x 100x50x30m modular Internal Strikecraft Bays(can be configured for launch/maintaince duties)
Armour:
-40m Nuclear-force Enhanced Silver(NES), type 12; Aproximatly 2000m RHA-equivilent protection value.
Stealth/ECM:
-RADAR/LiDAR absorbant/refractant coating
-Zero-Emmision Drive & Reactor
-Zero Thermal-Emmisions
-Basic RADAR/LiDAR jamming package
-Basic EM Comms jamming package
-Basic EM 'Chaff-Field' Spoof Effectors
-ECM/Chaff Flare Launchers
Sensors:
-Broad-band EM Active/Passive(RADAR/LiDAR/Optical/etc)
-mass detector
-Gravitic resonance imaging array
Comms:
-Standard Multi-Band EM transciever package(broadcast, tightbeam, laser)
-Can accept C&C QE Nodes
-Subspace Transciever
-Hyperwave Transciever
-Gravitic Wave-Pulse Transciver
East Coast Federation
13-03-2005, 16:50
OOC: AK! I'm sorry, But I can no longer purcahse anything, for awhile. I'm writing an post later today explaining why. But my current goverment doesnt exist. It's all part of why i'm converting to an 8472 nation.

But when my fleet starts a new nation, they may be looking for some ships, so I'll keep that in mind.
Kanuckistan
16-03-2005, 20:03
bump
Kanuckistan
21-03-2005, 02:06
bumpity
UntdCapitalistRepublic
25-03-2005, 18:14
I have a larger budget now and I can make my order again. I'd like:
1 x Zenith-Class Battlecruiser = 42 billion

2 x Kobold-Class Patrol/Combatant = 4 billion

total: 44 billion

Thanks in advance.
Kanuckistan
26-03-2005, 07:58
I have a larger budget now and I can make my order again. I'd like:
1 x Zenith-Class Battlecruiser = 42 billion

2 x Kobold-Class Patrol/Combatant = 4 billion

total: 44 billion

Thanks in advance.


Very well; you can pick them up shortly in Earth orbit. Please be sure to make payment in the sum of $44 billion USD befor then, or you may choose to make payment, in cash, when your crews arrive to take posession of the vessels.
Kanuckistan
27-03-2005, 07:51
bump
Kanuckistan
28-03-2005, 08:18
bumpity
Kanuckistan
29-03-2005, 14:45
bump
Xessmithia
29-03-2005, 15:32
Can I get your opinion on some first draft specs of a new Star Cruiser I'm designing?
Kanuckistan
29-03-2005, 15:41
Can I get your opinion on some first draft specs of a new Star Cruiser I'm designing?

I generally don't like to judge other folk's craft, but, meh, shoot.
Xessmithia
29-03-2005, 17:10
I generally don't like to judge other folk's craft, but, meh, shoot.

Naw, no need. And I have no desire to get you to do anything you don't like. Thanks though.
Skeelzania
08-04-2005, 07:05
I want to know the status on my Defense Platform, specifically 1) is the weaponry installed and 2)can it be moved to Solomon and activated immediately. I don't need to explain why.
Kanuckistan
10-04-2005, 21:05
I want to know the status on my Defense Platform, specifically 1) is the weaponry installed and 2)can it be moved to Solomon and activated immediately. I don't need to explain why.

I'm afraid that won't be possible for atleast several decades; at this point your vessel consists almost entirly of warehoused parts - the hull itself is still a collection of modular blocks.

Assembly wasn't scheduled to start for another thirty years, give or take.


However, if you need to bolster your forces, we can offer you a 15% perferred customer discount on any existing products.

Please note that this is a one-time offer.
Skeelzania
10-04-2005, 21:07
I'm afraid that won't be possible for atleast several decades; at this point your vessel consists almost entirly of warehoused parts - the hull itself is still a collection of modular blocks.

Assembly wasn't scheduled to start for another thirty years, give or take.


However, if you need to bolster your forces, we can offer you a 15% perferred customer discount on any existing products.

Please note that this is a one-time offer.

We aren't going to dishonor or fighting men and women by using foreign-built ships; we needed the platform to defend our homesystem so they can do the killing. The gnomes will be destroyed by Sternreich ships, not something from a mailorder catalogue.
Kanuckistan
10-04-2005, 22:51
We aren't going to dishonor or fighting men and women by using foreign-built ships; we needed the platform to defend our homesystem so they can do the killing. The gnomes will be destroyed by Sternreich ships, not something from a mailorder catalogue.

Why could they not serve the same end, albeit to a lesser degree? Forgine-bought ships could easily free up appitional domesticly produced forces to persue offencive operations.

Alternativly, we could equip anything you order for robotic or teleoperation, providing your fleet with a core of ultimatly expendible, unmanned warships to bear the brunt of an enemy's fire, reducing your casualties and allowing your domesticly produced forces to more potently press an offencive. This has the advantage of lowering losses amoungst your officer corps, allowing them to more readily accumulate experiance and hone their skills to even deadlier proficency.
Kanuckistan
18-04-2005, 08:28
bump
Kanuckistan
24-04-2005, 01:51
bump
Kanuckistan
25-04-2005, 23:42
bump
Germanische Zustande
26-04-2005, 04:21
I still haven't picked up my Dreadnought or whatever...
Kanuckistan
26-04-2005, 06:55
I still haven't picked up my Dreadnought or whatever...

And whose fault is that?
Germanische Zustande
26-04-2005, 22:39
You mean you don't provide delivery services?
Kanuckistan
27-04-2005, 01:50
You mean you don't provide delivery services?

Delivery costs extra, unless we like you.
Germanische Zustande
27-04-2005, 03:10
We can tell you don't like us when you plan to place explosives on our brand-spankin'-new dreadnought.
Kanuckistan
27-04-2005, 10:11
We can tell you don't like us when you plan to place explosives on our brand-spankin'-new dreadnought.

OOC:
Ah, but technicly, you Don't Know That(tm). ;)
Germanische Zustande
27-04-2005, 17:05
ooc: hee hee hee. My people don't, but I do... ;) Just joking, lol.
Kanuckistan
28-04-2005, 00:42
ooc: hee hee hee. My people don't, but I do... ;) Just joking, lol.

OOC:
So, are you going to pick it up? It's waiting in Earth orbit, like just about every other completed order.
Germanische Zustande
29-04-2005, 23:07
ooc: I have a fleet of three ships attending the Temporal Symposia. On their way back, the ships will stop by to pick up the Dreadnought.
Kanuckistan
02-05-2005, 18:48
bump
Roach-Busters
02-05-2005, 19:04
(OOC: Just so you know, I now have an FT version of my nation.)

To: Kanuckistan Original Futuretech Spacecraft Storefront
From: The Revived Might of Roach-Busters

Greetings. We wish to purchase the following from your storefront:

ACX-1 Daemon's Bane Class Interceptor x10,000 ($150,000,000,000)
Athens-Class Combat Carrier x10 ($250,000,000,000)
Zenith-Class Battlecruiser x5 ($210,000,000,000)
Kobold-Class Patrol/Combatant x100 ($200,000,000,000)
Mallice 3c Thermonuclear Warhead x1,000 ($7,000,000,000)
IronBreaker-VI Bomb-Pumped X-Ray Pulse Warhead x1,000 ($6,000,000,000)
Archer-XIV x1,000 ($17,000,000,000)

If this order exceeds our budget, we will pay yearly imcrements until this order is paid off. Is this acceptable?
Kanuckistan
02-05-2005, 20:13
(OOC: Just so you know, I now have an FT version of my nation.)

To: Kanuckistan Original Futuretech Spacecraft Storefront
From: The Revived Might of Roach-Busters

Greetings. We wish to purchase the following from your storefront:

ACX-1 Daemon's Bane Class Interceptor x10,000 ($150,000,000,000)
Athens-Class Combat Carrier x10 ($250,000,000,000)
Zenith-Class Battlecruiser x5 ($210,000,000,000)
Kobold-Class Patrol/Combatant x100 ($200,000,000,000)
Mallice 3c Thermonuclear Warhead x1,000 ($7,000,000,000)
IronBreaker-VI Bomb-Pumped X-Ray Pulse Warhead x1,000 ($6,000,000,000)
Archer-XIV x1,000 ($17,000,000,000)

If this order exceeds our budget, we will pay yearly imcrements until this order is paid off. Is this acceptable?



To: The Revived Might of Roach-Busters
From: Uniphase Armouries Interversal

Salutations;

Your requested order comes to a total of $840'000'000'000 USD(Four Hundred Eighty Billion Universal Standard Dollars).

Your order will be ready for pickup at Earth Orbit, Sol System in aproximatly Two Standard Terran Years, OR Two 'Days', iRL 'Absolute' Calendar, as of your final confirmation of the order. If directions are requiored, a map can be provided; if delivery is desired, please respond stating such, so that it might be arranged.

Additional:
Virtually any payment schedule is acceptible, provided you understand that you must complete payment befor taking posession of the merchandise. Otherwise, well, I don't know; can you spare on the order of 38% of your annual defence budget for a single payment arrangment? Or rather, 19%, as it will take us two years to prepare your order, regaurdless.

Refference:
NSEconomy: The Grand Imperium of Roach-Busters, 5/02/05 iRL 'Absolute' Calendar (http://thirdgeek.com/nseconomy/nseconomy.php?nation=Roach-Busters)

Signed:
Douglas McDonald
Douglas McDonald, Sales Rep,
Uniphase Armouries Interversal,
Kanuckistan

OOC:
Naturally, that link's data will change with the passage of time; the date was given for refference, as if it was an issue of a periodical publication, which it would likly be, ICly.
Kanuckistan
04-05-2005, 14:10
Bump
Kanuckistan
04-05-2005, 23:20
Bump

What he said.
East Coast Federation
05-05-2005, 02:29
OOC: This may sound really really stupid. But I just want to ask if this is even possible! I'll even buy somthing if you give me some help here.
Shitty IC: I'll purchase 4 of your fine Athens Class ships.
OOC2: Right, I had an idea. There are going to be 4 ships that are going to replace my entire navy. The 1st one will be built rather quickly. Hopefully by mid june. The other 3 will be built during the summer. I had an idea, which may or may not be a good one. The ships would be rather large( duh ). And very thin. And perfectly flat on both sides. Why? I had an idea that instead of turrets and racks. The top of the ship could be a giant emitter. Sorta like a huge version of the omni directnol weapons found on Star Trek ships. Only it takes up the entire surface of the ship. On both sides. This can fire from any location, and even track ships when they fly by. This " pad " would be able to funtuntion as PDF,Main Offensive weapons, light weapons. And the entire pad could be used an an OMFG UBER DEATH weapon. And it could fire say . 5,000 PDF shots at once. If the need be. Or say 900 Main Offensive shots. Ect ect ect. Or it could be doing all of those at the same time.( bringing the numbers down though ). And you could configure it instantly to do whatever you need it to.

The only problems I could see with this are massive power requirments. And the limited range this system would provide. Along with the same problem that alot of star trek ships have. They cannot properly focus energy weapons because of lack of a focusing point.

However, I think the benefits outweigh the problems. You could configure thouands of shots per second while engaging an entire fleet. And not have to worry about weapon arcs or blind spots.
Kanuckistan
05-05-2005, 04:19
OOC: There are going to be 4 ships that are going to replace my entire navy.

OOC:
Bad. Idea.

It limits both your IC tactical flexibility, and your OOC RPing flexibility. You're basicly limited to 'sit threre and shoot', and you can't take losses, because they hurt like hell and take forever to replace.

Trust me; it sounds cool, and makes a fair bit of sense, but going all ubership was one of the worst decisions I've made with this nation. One I have plans to resolve in the future.
Germanische Zustande
05-05-2005, 17:11
OOC: Hey Kanuck... Before you get rid of your Battleplates, could we have one showdown between a Bismarck and one of them?
East Coast Federation
05-05-2005, 20:55
OOC:
Bad. Idea.

It limits both your IC tactical flexibility, and your OOC RPing flexibility. You're basicly limited to 'sit threre and shoot', and you can't take losses, because they hurt like hell and take forever to replace.

Trust me; it sounds cool, and makes a fair bit of sense, but going all ubership was one of the worst decisions I've made with this nation. One I have plans to resolve in the future.
OOC: Ahh I see.

Well I still do have a fetish for uber ships, so I'd still build 2 of them. But still have a medium sized fleet of smaller crusiers and frigates.

But what about the " emitter pad " idea?
Kanuckistan
06-05-2005, 10:57
OOC: Hey Kanuck... Before you get rid of your Battleplates, could we have one showdown between a Bismarck and one of them?

I'm not getting rid of them, I'm taking most, maybe all of them with me.

And it ain't happening without a plausible IC cause.


OOC: Ahh I see.

Well I still do have a fetish for uber ships, so I'd still build 2 of them. But still have a medium sized fleet of smaller crusiers and frigates.

But what about the " emitter pad " idea?

Interesting, but unwise; there's no way to realisticly armour something like that, and it's a -big- target once someone manages to get through your sheilds.
Sephrioth
06-05-2005, 13:37
dear Kanuckistan i am lord ryu of sephrioth we require a new flagship any diegin would be fine
Kanuckistan
06-05-2005, 20:28
dear Kanuckistan i am lord ryu of sephrioth we require a new flagship any diegin would be fine



Killinator-Class UberFlagShip

A rugged and massivly armed superdreadnaught, the Killinator is more than adiquatly equiped to obliterate any enemy battlegroup of defencless space-kittens.

Price: 12.4 Trillion

Legnth:
-50.000m
Crew:
-6.000(crew)
-36.000(marines)
Powerplant:
-2x Standard Civilian-Grade Hawking Matter-Annilation Plant w/ Nuetronium superfluid fuel system(can effectivly use any matter for fuel)
Endurance:
-5 years(food)
-16 years(signifigant maintaince)
-50 years(fuel; max non-combat output)
-150 Hours(max combat output)
Drive:
-High-End Civilian-grade Reactionless Inertial Direct-Drive
-Internal Rotary-Control Gyros
-Basic Gravitic Hyperspace Induction Field Drive(holds ship in near-hyperspace while powered); modular and easily replaced.
Acceleration:
-610 gees sustained
-165deg/sec rotation
-12 lightyears/hour(FTL)
Armament:
-2x 75.000 Megaton CryoAtomic Lased Particle Beam Pulse Cannon(limited traverse, foreward); 5 second cycle rate
-12.000x External Missile Hardpoints
-2x 25.000 Terajoule Pulse Lasers(Fast-Tracking Turrets, Point-Defence); .5 sec cycle rate
Carriage:
-1x 3.0x5.0x5.0m modular Internal Smallcraft Bay
Armour:
-0.2500m Nuclear-force Enhanced Silver(NES), type 12; Aproximatly 12.500m RHA-equivilent protection value.
Stealth/ECM:
-RADAR/LiDAR absorbant/refractant coating
-Zero-Emmision Drive & Reactor
-Zero Thermal-Emmisions
-Basic RADAR/LiDAR jamming package
-Basic EM Comms jamming package
-Basic EM 'Chaff-Field' Spoof Effectors
-ECM/Chaff Flare Launchers
Sensors:
-Broad-band EM Active/Passive(RADAR/LiDAR/Optical/etc)
-mass detector
-Gravitic resonance imaging array
Comms:
-Standard Multi-Band EM transciever package(broadcast, tightbeam, laser)
-Can accept C&C QE Nodes
-Subspace Transciever
-Hyperwave Transciever
-Gravitic Wave-Pulse Transciver
East Coast Federation
06-05-2005, 20:42
I'm not getting rid of them, I'm taking most, maybe all of them with me.

And it ain't happening without a plausible IC cause.




Interesting, but unwise; there's no way to realisticly armour something like that, and it's a -big- target once someone manages to get through your sheilds.


OOC: True, however that would be one of many weakness;s that I could deal with, Such as adding more powerful sheilding and PDF systems?
Sephrioth
07-05-2005, 12:38
can we pay in instalments we will take it
Kanuckistan
07-05-2005, 15:25
OOC: True, however that would be one of many weakness;s that I could deal with, Such as adding more powerful sheilding and PDF systems?

OOC:
You'd really only be off-setting a major disadvantage. Go ahead and do it, just expect to loose alot of firepower the first time something gets through and actually hits the ship.



can we pay in instalments we will take it

What kind of payment plan would you like? Keeping in mind that you have to make payment in full befor you can take delivery of the vessel.
Sephrioth
08-05-2005, 16:47
3.1 ttrillion a year
Kanuckistan
08-05-2005, 18:28
3.1 ttrillion a year

For some reason the thinkgeek calculator refuses to display your nation, but that looks quite feasible; see you on the 12th.
Sephrioth
09-05-2005, 12:52
fist 2 installments wired
Skeelzania
09-05-2005, 17:42
I don't suppose you could not sit on your hands and actually finish my station Kanuck.
Kanuckistan
09-05-2005, 22:02
I don't suppose you could not sit on your hands and actually finish my station Kanuck.

It'll be ready when it's ready.


Anyway, total cost now comes to $711 Trillion USD, with an estimated completion time of June 3rd, 2005, iRL Absoloute Calander, if we start construction today, Febuary 23rd, iRL.


And it'll be ready in ~25 years.
East Coast Federation
09-05-2005, 22:15
OOC:
You'd really only be off-setting a major disadvantage. Go ahead and do it, just expect to loose alot of firepower the first time something gets through and actually hits the ship.





What kind of payment plan would you like? Keeping in mind that you have to make payment in full befor you can take delivery of the vessel.
OOC:
Thats one of the weakness's someone could expoilt. The shieilding system would have to be incredibly powerful to offset that. But it would shut the godmod yellers up.
Kanuckistan
11-05-2005, 03:32
bump
Sephrioth
11-05-2005, 11:37
final 2 installments of 2.1 installments wired
Kanuckistan
12-05-2005, 04:48
final 2 installments of 2.1 installments wired

Don't you mean $3.1 trillion USD?
Sephrioth
12-05-2005, 13:00
yep that
Kanuckistan
13-05-2005, 03:20
yep that

Congratulations! You are now the proud owner of the Killinator-Class UberFlagShip, a slightly customised Kobold-Class Patrol/Combatant.

Your fifty meter long Killinator is presently awaiting pickup in Earth orbit; instruction manuals and related training material are avalible onhand to assist the crew of six in their new jobs, as soon as they arrive.


If you are unsatisfied with your purchase, and paying 6199 times more than the normal retail price, I advise you to, in the future, take note that zeros added after the decimal point, as a marketing gimmick, do not 'count', as it were, and sugest highlighting product descriptions to uncover any 'fine print' or the ilk which may be present.

In the mean, please enjoy the complimentary bottle of Château de Kanata(tm) spiced blueberry wine, which will be included with the spacecraft.


Signed:
Douglas McDonald
Douglas McDonald, Sales Rep,
Uniphase Armouries Interversal,
Kanuckistan


OOC:
And this is what happens when you can't take 'no' for an answer, when we refuse to sell to you. :P
Sephrioth
13-05-2005, 13:36
how much would delivary to my aura forityfied system cost
Kanuckistan
14-05-2005, 02:46
how much would delivary to my aura forityfied system cost


That depends on where it is.
Sephrioth
14-05-2005, 14:07
delta qauderent coardantes enclosed
Kanuckistan
15-05-2005, 04:12
delta qauderent coardantes enclosed

Eh, I supose you've overpaid enough already; it'll be displaced to a location nearby then proceed to pickup under autopilot.

Just remember that you are responsible for the coordinates, and so it's your problem if anything happens to it enroute(OOC: No, I'm not planning anything; just declining liability).
Kanuckistan
19-05-2005, 14:42
*Bump*

10% off the next order from a new customer. [/marketing-gimick]
Skeelzania
19-05-2005, 16:00
Skeelzania wishes to purchase one Fell Warden class dreadnought to assist in development purposes for a new ship (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/Bad_Skeelz/DIED7.jpg). With the 10% discount the price comes out to 1,203.3 billion, which can be paid over three years.
Kanuckistan
19-05-2005, 19:59
To: The Sternreich of Skeelzania
From: Uniphase Armouries Interversal

Salutations;

Your requested order comes to a total of $1'203'300'000'000 USD(Twelve Hundred Three Point Three Billion Universal Standard Dollars).

Your order will be ready for pickup at Earth Orbit, Sol System in aproximatly Six Standard Terran Years, OR Six 'Days', iRL 'Absolute' Calendar, as of your final confirmation of the order. If directions are requiored, a map can be provided; if delivery is desired, please respond stating such, so that it might be arranged.

Additional:
In order to better serve you, our customer(s), I was wondering what, if anything, you would be willing to disclose regaurding the ends to which you intend to put this vessel, in assisting in the development of your new ship?


Signed:
Douglas McDonald
Douglas McDonald, Sales Rep,
Uniphase Armouries Interversal,
Kanuckistan
East Coast Federation
19-05-2005, 20:52
OOC: Hey, as you may or may not know, I have a new ship in development. However, I dont have the know-how to create my own form of armour/hull plating/framework. That is as strong as I would like it to be ( though the ship relays mostly on sheilding systems for it's protection, which will be some of the best out there, though not close to the best ). I'm willing to pay alot of money. And it has to be strong enough to allow the ship to resist most grav attacks for a decent amount of time before it buckles. ( 19kmL, 7KM Beam,500 Meter Thick ). It needs to be as strong as your goverment allows you to produce. And I'm willing to pay a hefty price.
Kanuckistan
20-05-2005, 03:21
OOC: Hey, as you may or may not know, I have a new ship in development. However, I dont have the know-how to create my own form of armour/hull plating/framework. That is as strong as I would like it to be ( though the ship relays mostly on sheilding systems for it's protection, which will be some of the best out there, though not close to the best ). I'm willing to pay alot of money. And it has to be strong enough to allow the ship to resist most grav attacks for a decent amount of time before it buckles. ( 19kmL, 7KM Beam,500 Meter Thick ). It needs to be as strong as your goverment allows you to produce. And I'm willing to pay a hefty price.

OOC:
How strong, exactly, does it have to be? We can provide materials of almost any property, but costs go up as tollerance extreams do.

Type 12 NES - the standard armouring and building material for our export ships - for example, is all around 50 times stronger than rolled homogenized steel armour(RHA), and costs roughly as much as steel(say $0.40 USD/kilo; it's damn hard to find current market prices for the stuff; all I could google was old data of unknown reliability).

Perfect 1:1 ratio Darkforge Battleplate, by contrast, is all but physicly indestructible, but costs insanly-huge-even-by-astronomical-standards amounts of money - less than a gram's ever been produced, in fact, and that's mainly for lab exparimentation. An inferrior version is in very limited use, but it's stil stupidly expensive.

As for grav weapons, eh, they're infinitly scalible; from pulp-the-squishies-but-leave-the-metal-alone to I-can't-belive-it's-not-an-event-horizon.

So, yeah; exactly how tough do ya want it?
Skeelzania
20-05-2005, 04:03
Skeelzania confirms the order. The ship will be crewed in Sol and jumped to Skeelzania proper under the Imperial Mercantile Flag.

To answer your question, the Fell Warden will be used as template of sorts in the development of a new class of warship. Also it will be used for comparative strength tests at a future date.
Kanuckistan
20-05-2005, 05:23
To: The Sternreich of Skeelzania
From: Uniphase Armouries Interversal

Salutations;

Excellent; you will be able to pick the vessel up come May 25th, 2005, iRL 'Absolute' Calendar.

As for your use of the ship, I shall reitterate prior statment that all our vessels incorperate elaborate anti-reverse engineering provisions and mechinisims; they are, however, sufficently documented amoungst the craft's manuals that avoiding accidental triggering should be impossible provided any reasonible level of compotence.

If I understand your meaning correctly, however, this shouldn't be an issue.

Feel free to contact me or another Company rep if there's anything we can do for you.


Signed:
Douglas McDonald
Douglas McDonald, Sales Rep,
Uniphase Armouries Interversal,
Kanuckistan
Kanuckistan
21-05-2005, 20:02
bump
East Coast Federation
22-05-2005, 01:22
OOC:
How strong, exactly, does it have to be? We can provide materials of almost any property, but costs go up as tollerance extreams do.

Type 12 NES - the standard armouring and building material for our export ships - for example, is all around 50 times stronger than rolled homogenized steel armour(RHA), and costs roughly as much as steel(say $0.40 USD/kilo; it's damn hard to find current market prices for the stuff; all I could google was old data of unknown reliability).

Perfect 1:1 ratio Darkforge Battleplate, by contrast, is all but physicly indestructible, but costs insanly-huge-even-by-astronomical-standards amounts of money - less than a gram's ever been produced, in fact, and that's mainly for lab exparimentation. An inferrior version is in very limited use, but it's stil stupidly expensive.

As for grav weapons, eh, they're infinitly scalible; from pulp-the-squishies-but-leave-the-metal-alone to I-can't-belive-it's-not-an-event-horizon.

So, yeah; exactly how tough do ya want it?
OOC: ( finding RL market prices is hard, as they change everyday but anyway).

This is the main reason, I'm not sure how tough I want it. But because of it's uber thinness. 19km L, 7KM W, 500 Thick. This thing is going to be able to get up to speed, and manuver pretty quick. So it has to be able to take that kind of movement without bending.

It's gonna be for main plating an framework, no armour as you cant really armour this thing at all.

Cost isnt an issue ( as I'm doing an insane amount of dev threads,which will show up in a the next week for so, and I'm putting in an insane amount of money into this ). I'm asking, how strong are you WILLING to make somthing?

I'll make another offer, i'd be willing to help fund research on mass producing DarkStar Battleplate. If I can be sold the inferior version, and I will pay the price.
The Iron Fish
22-05-2005, 23:40
The Iron Fish wishes to commish you to build a ship. This ship will be Emperor Matthais the Second's personal vessel.

What we want is fairly simple:

A sleek, elegant design.
Fully fitted, comfortable interiors.
High quality shielding.
High quality weapons.

All fairly simple, no? We are willing to pay quite a substantial amount if you are willing to design and build this vessel for us.

The Iron Fish awaits your response.
Kanuckistan
24-05-2005, 16:27
OOC:
Cost isnt an issue ( as I'm doing an insane amount of dev threads,which will show up in a the next week for so, and I'm putting in an insane amount of money into this ). I'm asking, how strong are you WILLING to make somthing?


How about a SAPL matrix averaging 2500 times as resileant as RHA, but with the density of steel? Call it $30.00 USD/kilogram.



The Iron Fish wishes to commish you to build a ship. This ship will be Emperor Matthais the Second's personal vessel.

What we want is fairly simple:

A sleek, elegant design.
Fully fitted, comfortable interiors.
High quality shielding.
High quality weapons.

All fairly simple, no? We are willing to pay quite a substantial amount if you are willing to design and build this vessel for us.

The Iron Fish awaits your response.

That is a rather vauge request; could you be more specific?
East Coast Federation
25-05-2005, 01:07
How about a SAPL matrix averaging 2500 times as resileant as RHA, but with the density of steel? Call it $30.00 USD/kilogram.

Would you mind putting that into prespective?
Kanuckistan
26-05-2005, 04:16
Would you mind putting that into prespective?

Howso?
East Coast Federation
26-05-2005, 04:26
Howso?
OOC: Well, I was just wondering if you can make anything stronger, and make more than one gram of it :P
Kanuckistan
26-05-2005, 05:33
OOC: Well, I was just wondering if you can make anything stronger, and make more than one gram of it :P

OOC:
Thinking about it s'more, this is probally as strong as I'd willing to go for bulk export, and I probally should have quoted a higher price, too, but it's already done.

And you're going to need huge amounts of the stuff anyway, so keep in mind that you'll need to ba able to afford the ship in the first place. ;)
East Coast Federation
26-05-2005, 23:33
OOC:
Thinking about it s'more, this is probally as strong as I'd willing to go for bulk export, and I probally should have quoted a higher price, too, but it's already done.

And you're going to need huge amounts of the stuff anyway, so keep in mind that you'll need to ba able to afford the ship in the first place. ;)
OOC: Well this is just for basic framework. The actual " hull of the ship isnt actually there if ya know what I mean.
Kanuckistan
27-05-2005, 04:58
OOC: Well this is just for basic framework. The actual " hull of the ship isnt actually there if ya know what I mean.

OOC:
I know; it's still a huge ship.
Skeelzania
27-05-2005, 18:01
I do believe my Fell Warden is done. If I can get confirmation I will ship a crew to Earth, pick it up, and bring it back.
East Coast Federation
28-05-2005, 01:23
OOC:
I know; it's still a huge ship.
OOC:
Yeah, I'm just looking for basic framework to hold the larger peices together. The rest is an energy hull.
Kanuckistan
29-05-2005, 06:58
I do believe my Fell Warden is done. If I can get confirmation I will ship a crew to Earth, pick it up, and bring it back.


To: The Sternreich of Skeelzania
From: Uniphase Armouries Interversal

Salutations;

Ah, yes, I apologise for the delay in responding; your vessel is indeed ready and awaiting pickup in Earth orbit - her transponder reads 'UEV Target Drone #303', which I assume is the project head's personal speculation as to the vessel's fate.

I'll attach a file containing the specifics of pickup and identity confirmation for your crew.


Signed:
Douglas McDonald
Douglas McDonald, Sales Rep,
Uniphase Armouries Interversal,
Kanuckistan




OOC:
Yeah, I'm just looking for basic framework to hold the larger peices together. The rest is an energy hull.

OOC:
Anyway, does the proposed soloution meet your needs? And if so, how much would you like to order?
East Coast Federation
31-05-2005, 02:21
To: The Sternreich of Skeelzania
From: Uniphase Armouries Interversal

Salutations;

Ah, yes, I apologise for the delay in responding; your vessel is indeed ready and awaiting pickup in Earth orbit - her transponder reads 'UEV Target Drone #303', which I assume is the project head's personal speculation as to the vessel's fate.

I'll attach a file containing the specifics of pickup and identity confirmation for your crew.


Signed:
Douglas McDonald
Douglas McDonald, Sales Rep,
Uniphase Armouries Interversal,
Kanuckistan






OOC:
Anyway, does the proposed soloution meet your needs? And if so, how much would you like to order?
OOC: Alright, I need 2 beams, mesuring 18.5km Long, and about 200 meters wide. ANd 4 Cross Beams running across those, forming a sort of ladder, how much would that be?
Kanuckistan
31-05-2005, 09:13
OOC: Alright, I need 2 beams, mesuring 18.5km Long, and about 200 meters wide. ANd 4 Cross Beams running across those, forming a sort of ladder, how much would that be?

How thick do you want the beams? What dimensions do you want the cross beams to be?

I'll just do a few calcs to give you an idea of the final price;

Assuming you want it 200 meters thick, too, for 18'500x200x200m, that's a volume of 740'000'000 cubic meters.

At 7.85 metric tonnes/cubic meter, that's 5'809'000'000 tonnes or ~5.8 billion metric tonnes.

At $30.00 USD/kilo, ie $30'000 USD/tonne, that comes out to $174'270'000'000'000 USD or ~$174.3 trillion USD.

For one main beam.

Ouch.
East Coast Federation
31-05-2005, 20:41
How thick do you want the beams? What dimensions do you want the cross beams to be?

I'll just do a few calcs to give you an idea of the final price;

Assuming you want it 200 meters thick, too, for 18'500x200x200m, that's a volume of 740'000'000 cubic meters.

At 7.85 metric tonnes/cubic meter, that's 5'809'000'000 tonnes or ~5.8 billion metric tonnes.

At $30.00 USD/kilo, ie $30'000 USD/tonne, that comes out to $174'270'000'000'000 USD or ~$174.3 trillion USD.

For one main beam.

Ouch.
OOC: Well If it's as good as you say it is, I can pay in installments. Try bringing the thickness down to 90 Meters
Kanuckistan
01-06-2005, 19:51
OOC: Well If it's as good as you say it is, I can pay in installments. Try bringing the thickness down to 90 Meters


Did you read my post? That was just a ballpark figure because you didn't give me the numbers I need to build your frame.

So 90 meters thick? What about the cross beams? How long/thick/wide do you want them? And how do you want them spaced and arranged?
East Coast Federation
02-06-2005, 03:20
Did you read my post? That was just a ballpark figure because you didn't give me the numbers I need to build your frame.

So 90 meters thick? What about the cross beams? How long/thick/wide do you want them? And how do you want them spaced and arranged?
OOC: I'm trying to think of the most logical configeration for this thing. I'm thinking somthing shaped like a ladder would be most effective, With the SIF generators built onto it ( which hold together the entire ship ). Or is there a better way?
Tichang
02-06-2005, 04:27
The Peoples Republic of Tichang would like to commission the following:
10xZenith-Class Battlecruisers
200xKobold-Class Patrol/Combatant
5xAshen Wind-Class Missile Cruiser
1xFell Warden-Class Battle Dreadnaught
The total cost will be $2,497,000,000,000 USD
Money will be wired on confirmation
Kanuckistan
03-06-2005, 02:30
OOC: I'm trying to think of the most logical configeration for this thing. I'm thinking somthing shaped like a ladder would be most effective, With the SIF generators built onto it ( which hold together the entire ship ). Or is there a better way?

OOC:
Oughta work; I'd add angled reinforcing supports once you get it, tho.



The Peoples Republic of Tichang would like to commission the following:
10xZenith-Class Battlecruisers
200xKobold-Class Patrol/Combatant
5xAshen Wind-Class Missile Cruiser
1xFell Warden-Class Battle Dreadnaught
The total cost will be $2,497,000,000,000 USD
Money will be wired on confirmation

According to This calculator (http://thirdgeek.com/nseconomy/nseconomy.php?nation=Tichang) you currently have an annual defence budget of $45 billion USD.

Your present order is 55.5 times that. Indeed, your entire gross domestic product is scarcly half of what you seek to order.

As much as we hate to turn away customers, we have to advise that you consider making a smaller order until your economy is better able to handle such expnditures.
Kanuckistan
05-06-2005, 17:27
bump
Kanuckistan
06-06-2005, 23:11
For the record, construction Skeelzania's order, the Solomon Gate, was completed on time, on June 3rd, 2005, iRL Absoloute Calander.
Kanuckistan
07-06-2005, 19:11
bump
East Coast Federation
08-06-2005, 17:09
OOC: could I have order downgrade? I'm rethinking this whole idea. An energy hull would be a good idea, but not now. I want to prove the desing before I go into a whole energy hull thing. So, no framework for the time being.

But, I would like a Fell Warden-Class as I am without one. ( just want one )
Kanuckistan
08-06-2005, 20:20
But, I would like a Fell Warden-Class as I am without one. ( just want one )

OOC: I thought you'd already ordered some? Must've been someone else...


IC:

To: The Communist State of East Coast Federation
From: Uniphase Armouries Interversal

Salutations;

Your requested order comes to a total of $1'337'000'000'000 USD(One Trillion Three Hundred Thirty Seven Billion Universal Standard Dollars).

Your order will be ready for pickup at Earth Orbit, Sol System in aproximatly Six Standard Terran Years, OR Six 'Days', iRL 'Absolute' Calendar, as of your final confirmation of the order. If directions are requiored, a map can be provided; if delivery is desired, please respond stating such, so that it might be arranged.


Signed:
Douglas McDonald
Douglas McDonald, Sales Rep,
Uniphase Armouries Interversal,
Kanuckistan
Kanuckistan
10-06-2005, 21:28
bump
East Coast Federation
10-06-2005, 22:45
OOC: I thought you'd already ordered some? Must've been someone else...


IC:

To: The Communist State of East Coast Federation
From: Uniphase Armouries Interversal

Salutations;

Your requested order comes to a total of $1'337'000'000'000 USD(One Trillion Three Hundred Thirty Seven Billion Universal Standard Dollars).

Your order will be ready for pickup at Earth Orbit, Sol System in aproximatly Six Standard Terran Years, OR Six 'Days', iRL 'Absolute' Calendar, as of your final confirmation of the order. If directions are requiored, a map can be provided; if delivery is desired, please respond stating such, so that it might be arranged.


Signed:
Douglas McDonald
Douglas McDonald, Sales Rep,
Uniphase Armouries Interversal,
Kanuckistan

OOC: A few months ago, but they were all destoryed
IC: Thank you, we shall enjoy doing business with you in the future.
Kanuckistan
10-06-2005, 23:03
OOC: A few months ago, but they were all destoryed

OOC:
Oh? How'd they do?
East Coast Federation
11-06-2005, 23:57
OOC:
Oh? How'd they do?
OOC: No RP about it yet, but I will be writing a story about that war soon, they were destoryed by an uber version of 8472, along witht he rest of my old " race "
Kanuckistan
12-06-2005, 06:07
OOC: No RP about it yet, but I will be writing a story about that war soon, they were destoryed by an uber version of 8472, along witht he rest of my old " race "

OOC:

Dang.
Kanuckistan
15-06-2005, 20:33
bump
Kanuckistan
23-06-2005, 22:50
bumpity
Skeelzania
29-06-2005, 10:05
OOC: Hello again. I wanted to ask if you could bother looking over the stats to my new ship, just to get an outside opinion. It was designed with beating Kanuck and Mindsetti battleships in mind, and I'm afraid I may have gone over board in stuffing it to the beams with firepower. If you agree, I'll just telegram it over to you. You can also try reaching me on MSN messenger (badskeelz@yahoo.com), but thats kind of iffy since I only have this comp half the time.
Kanuckistan
30-06-2005, 23:51
OOC: Hello again. I wanted to ask if you could bother looking over the stats to my new ship, just to get an outside opinion. It was designed with beating Kanuck and Mindsetti battleships in mind, and I'm afraid I may have gone over board in stuffing it to the beams with firepower. If you agree, I'll just telegram it over to you. You can also try reaching me on MSN messenger (badskeelz@yahoo.com), but thats kind of iffy since I only have this comp half the time.

OOC:

Eh, sure, I'll give it a once-over.