NationStates Jolt Archive

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Uniphase Armouries Interversal, the cheif military contractor in the Dominion of Kanuckistan for more than five and a half centuries, has again ventured into the international scene with a selection of arms and equipment. As usual, custum designs are also being taken.

Also, as usual, attempting to reverse engineer any hardware will lead to a very large explosion, as your expense.


Index:
-Spacecraft
-Missiles(space-to-space)

(more to be added later)

(OOC: Exparimental storefront; comments welcome. This is a limited rollout to gauge interest. Feel free to make requests for new spacecraft you'd like to buy(including any specific tech) and I'll see about specing them out. Sorry, no pics; 56ker here. All original technology and ideas (c) Kanuckistan and it's player; <insert intilectual property rant here> )


Spacecraft


ACX-1 Daemon's Bane Class Interceptor

Export varrient of Kanuckistan's sucessful Daemon's Bane line of multirole interceptors, these unmanned space vehicles(USVs) are designed to provide a relativly cheap, yet versitile, reliable, and effective platform for extended-range recon and force projection. Atonomous Combat-AI pilot programs are unavalible, but you can upload your own, or utalise the secure, unjammible datalink(QE Node) to remote pilot.

Price Per Unit: 15 million

Dimentions(LxWxH):
-5x3x1m
Powerplant:
-Purpose-built multi-stage fusion plant
Endurance:
-1 week/max output
Drive:
-High-End Civilian-grade Reactionless Inertial Direct-Drive
-Internal Rotary-Control Gyros
Acceleration:
-700 gees sustained
-720deg/sec rotation
Armament:
-2x 1.5 terajoule pulse lasers(fixed forward mount), 60 rpm/rof
-2x Varrible Molecular Bonding Hardpoints
Armour:
-5mm Nuclear-force Enhanced Silver(NES), type 12; Aproximatly 250mm RHA-equivilent protection value.
Stealth/ECM:
-RADAR/LiDAR absorbant/refractant coating
-Zero-Emmision Drive & Reactor
-Zero Thermal-Emmisions
-Basic RADAR/LiDAR jamming package
-Basic EM Comms jamming package
-Basic EM 'Chaff-Field' Spoof Effectors
Sensors:
-Broad-band EM Active/Passive(RADAR/LiDAR/Optical/etc)
-mass detector
Comms:
-Standard Multi-Band EM transciever package(broadcast, tightbeam, laser)
-Quantum-Entanglment(QE) Node(1 month operational peroid between resyncs); can't be jammed or intercepted; fixed point-to-point only(ie once two nodes have synced, they can send data to each other, and that's it). C&C QE Node Included.




Athens-Class Combat Carrier

A vessel designed purly for export, the Athens is a well-rounded vessel. As can be expected given her origin, effective weapons range is extream by most standards; 3 lightseconds for the main cannon and 1.5 for the point-defence. However, being lightspeed weapons, the ability to hit a moving target at that range is limited by one's ability to guess where the target is going to be in the near future.

Price: 25 Billion

Legnth:
-750m
Crew:
-250
Powerplant:
-4x High-End Civilian-Grade Hawking Matter-Annilation Plant w/ Nuetronium superfluid fuel system(can effectivly use any matter for fuel)
Endurance:
-20 years(food)
-25 years(signifigant maintaince)
-125 years(fuel; max non-combat output)
-180 Hours(max combat output)
Drive:
-High-End Civilian-grade Reactionless Inertial Direct-Drive
-Internal Rotary-Control Gyros
-Basic Gravitic Hyperspace Induction Field Drive(holds ship in near-hyperspace while powered); modular and easily replaced.
Acceleration:
-550 gees sustained
-45deg/sec rotation
-20 lightyears/hour(FTL)
Armament:
-1x Gigaton CryoAtomic Lased Particle Beam Pulse Cannon(spinal); 30 second cycle rate
-12x Internal Missile Racks(6x per side); 50m^3 volume.
-6x 20 Terajoule Pulse Lasers(Fast-Tracking Turrets, Point-Defence); .5 sec cycle rate
Carriage:
-2x 200x150x50m modular Internal Fighter Bays(can be configured for launch/maintaince duties)
Armour:
-2.5m Nuclear-force Enhanced Silver(NES), type 12; Aproximatly 125m RHA-equivilent protection value.
Stealth/ECM:
-RADAR/LiDAR absorbant/refractant coating
-Zero-Emmision Drive & Reactor
-Zero Thermal-Emmisions
-Basic RADAR/LiDAR jamming package
-Basic EM Comms jamming package
-Basic EM 'Chaff-Field' Spoof Effectors
-ECM/Chaff Flare Launchers
Sensors:
-Broad-band EM Active/Passive(RADAR/LiDAR/Optical/etc)
-mass detector
-Gravitic resonance imaging array
Comms:
-Standard Multi-Band EM transciever package(broadcast, tightbeam, laser)
-Can accept C&C QE Nodes
-Subspace Transciever
-Hyperwave Transciever
-Gravitic Wave-Pulse Transciver








Zenith-Class Battlecruiser

With weapons ranges equal to the Athens, the Zenith trades force-projection for sheer power in the form of six spinal partical cannons, each more than twice as powerful as those on the Athens, as well as an expanded missile payload and tighter point-defence system. An excelent all-around combat platform.

Price: 42 Billion

Legnth:
-1250m
Crew:
-450
Powerplant:
-6x High-End Civilian-Grade Hawking Matter-Annilation Plant w/ Nuetronium superfluid fuel system(can effectivly use any matter for fuel)
Endurance:
-15 years(food)
-27 years(signifigant maintaince)
-250 years(fuel; max non-combat output)
-100 Hours(max combat output)
Drive:
-High-End Civilian-grade Reactionless Inertial Direct-Drive
-Internal Rotary-Control Gyros
-Basic Gravitic Hyperspace Induction Field Drive(holds ship in near-hyperspace while powered); modular and easily replaced.
Acceleration:
-550 gees sustained
-55deg/sec rotation
-20 lightyears/hour(FTL)
Armament:
-4x 2.5 Gigaton CryoAtomic Lased Particle Beam Pulse Cannon(spinal, forward); 30 second cycle rate
-4x 2.5 Gigaton CryoAtomic Lased Particle Beam Pulse Cannon(spinal, aft); 30 second cycle rate
-24x Internal Missile Racks(6x per side); 50m^3 volume.
-12x 25 Terajoule Pulse Lasers(Fast-Tracking Turrets, Point-Defence); .5 sec cycle rate
Carriage:
-2x 20m^3 modular Internal Strikecraft Bays(can be configured for launch/maintaince duties)
Armour:
-25m Nuclear-force Enhanced Silver(NES), type 12; Aproximatly 1250m RHA-equivilent protection value.
Stealth/ECM:
-RADAR/LiDAR absorbant/refractant coating
-Zero-Emmision Drive & Reactor
-Zero Thermal-Emmisions
-Basic RADAR/LiDAR jamming package
-Basic EM Comms jamming package
-Basic EM 'Chaff-Field' Spoof Effectors
-ECM/Chaff Flare Launchers
Sensors:
-Broad-band EM Active/Passive(RADAR/LiDAR/Optical/etc)
-mass detector
-Gravitic resonance imaging array
Comms:
-Standard Multi-Band EM transciever package(broadcast, tightbeam, laser)
-Can accept C&C QE Nodes
-Subspace Transciever
-Hyperwave Transciever
-Gravitic Wave-Pulse Transciver



Kobold-Class Patrol/Combatant

A rugged partol and combat-support vessel, these PatComs are a potent deterent for even the most well-armed pirate, as well as a welcome addition to any well-rounded battlegroup. In addition to a crew of 6, upwards of 36 marines can be carried for boarding operations.

Price: 2 Billion

Legnth:
-50m
Crew:
-6(crew)
-36(marines)
Powerplant:
-2x Standard Civilian-Grade Hawking Matter-Annilation Plant w/ Nuetronium superfluid fuel system(can effectivly use any matter for fuel)
Endurance:
-5 years(food)
-16 years(signifigant maintaince)
-50 years(fuel; max non-combat output)
-150 Hours(max combat output)
Drive:
-High-End Civilian-grade Reactionless Inertial Direct-Drive
-Internal Rotary-Control Gyros
-Basic Gravitic Hyperspace Induction Field Drive(holds ship in near-hyperspace while powered); modular and easily replaced.
Acceleration:
-610 gees sustained
-165deg/sec rotation
-12 lightyears/hour(FTL)
Armament:
-2x 75 Megaton CryoAtomic Lased Particle Beam Pulse Cannon(limited traverse, foreward); 5 second cycle rate
-12x External Missile Hardpoints
-2x 25 Terajoule Pulse Lasers(Fast-Tracking Turrets, Point-Defence); .5 sec cycle rate
Carriage:
-1x 3x5x5m modular Internal Smallcraft Bay
Armour:
-0.25m Nuclear-force Enhanced Silver(NES), type 12; Aproximatly 12.5m RHA-equivilent protection value.
Stealth/ECM:
-RADAR/LiDAR absorbant/refractant coating
-Zero-Emmision Drive & Reactor
-Zero Thermal-Emmisions
-Basic RADAR/LiDAR jamming package
-Basic EM Comms jamming package
-Basic EM 'Chaff-Field' Spoof Effectors
-ECM/Chaff Flare Launchers
Sensors:
-Broad-band EM Active/Passive(RADAR/LiDAR/Optical/etc)
-mass detector
-Gravitic resonance imaging array
Comms:
-Standard Multi-Band EM transciever package(broadcast, tightbeam, laser)
-Can accept C&C QE Nodes
-Subspace Transciever
-Hyperwave Transciever
-Gravitic Wave-Pulse Transciver



Ashen Wind-Class Missile Cruiser

Price: 68 Billion

Legnth:
-1450m
Crew:
-450
Powerplant:
-6x High-End Civilian-Grade Hawking Matter-Annilation Plant w/ Nuetronium superfluid fuel system(can effectivly use any matter for fuel)
Endurance:
-15 years(food)
-27 years(signifigant maintaince)
-250 years(fuel; max non-combat output)
-100 Hours(max combat output)
Drive:
-High-End Civilian-grade Reactionless Inertial Direct-Drive
-Internal Rotary-Control Gyros
-Basic Gravitic Hyperspace Induction Field Drive(holds ship in near-hyperspace while powered); modular and easily replaced.
Acceleration:
-550 gees sustained
-55deg/sec rotation
-20 lightyears/hour(FTL)
Armament:
-2x 3.5 Gigaton CryoAtomic Lased Particle Beam Pulse Cannon(spinal); 30 second cycle rate
-18x 20 Terajoule Pulse Lasers(Fast-Tracking Turrets, Point-Defence); .5 sec cycle rate
-50x Internal Missile Racks(40x forward, 6x aft, 2x per side); 50m^3 volume each.
Carriage:
-2x 20m^3 modular Internal Strikecraft Bays(can be configured for launch/maintaince duties)
Armour:
-25m Nuclear-force Enhanced Silver(NES), type 12; Aproximatly 1250m RHA-equivilent protection value.
Stealth/ECM:
-RADAR/LiDAR absorbant/refractant coating
-Zero-Emmision Drive & Reactor
-Zero Thermal-Emmisions
-Basic RADAR/LiDAR jamming package
-Basic EM Comms jamming package
-Basic EM 'Chaff-Field' Spoof Effectors
-ECM/Chaff Flare Launchers
Sensors:
-Broad-band EM Active/Passive(RADAR/LiDAR/Optical/etc)
-mass detector
-Gravitic resonance imaging array
Comms:
-Standard Multi-Band EM transciever package(broadcast, tightbeam, laser)
-Can accept C&C QE Nodes
-Subspace Transciever
-Hyperwave Transciever
-Gravitic Wave-Pulse Transciver



Fell Warden-Class Battle Dreadnaught

Building upon the solid concepts employed in desiging the Zenith, the Fell Warden is a massivly upgunned descendent; larger, with heaver armour, three times the point defence, expanded missile and strikecraft carriage, she weilds fully 400 times a Zenith's firepower in her forward salvo. Designed to meet Central Facehuggerian needs, and does so with only a slight overall loss in speed and maneuveribility compared to her smaller cousin.

Price: 1337 Billion

Legnth:
-4250m
Crew:
-850
Marine Compliment:
-2500
Powerplant:
-24x High-End Civilian-Grade Hawking Matter-Annilation Plant w/ Nuetronium superfluid fuel system(can effectivly use any matter for fuel)
Endurance:
-19 years(food)
-25 years(signifigant maintaince)
-500 years(fuel; max non-combat output)
-100 Hours(max combat output)
Drive:
-High-End Civilian-grade Reactionless Inertial Direct-Drive
-Internal Rotary-Control Gyros
-Basic Gravitic Hyperspace Induction Field Drive(holds ship in near-hyperspace while powered); modular and easily replaced.
Acceleration:
-525 gees sustained
-50deg/sec rotation
-17.5 lightyears/hour(FTL)
Armament:
-12x 333 Gigaton CryoAtomic Lased Particle Beam Pulse Cannon(fixed, forward); 50 second cycle rate
-2x 2.5 Gigaton CryoAtomic Lased Particle Beam Pulse Cannon(fixed, aft); 30 second cycle rate
-24x Internal Missile Racks(6x per side); 20x20x20m volume.
-36x 25 Terajoule Pulse Lasers(Fast-Tracking Turrets, Point-Defence); .5 sec cycle rate
Carriage:
-2x 100x50x30m modular Internal Strikecraft Bays(can be configured for launch/maintaince duties)
Armour:
-40m Nuclear-force Enhanced Silver(NES), type 12; Aproximatly 2000m RHA-equivilent protection value.
Stealth/ECM:
-RADAR/LiDAR absorbant/refractant coating
-Zero-Emmision Drive & Reactor
-Zero Thermal-Emmisions
-Basic RADAR/LiDAR jamming package
-Basic EM Comms jamming package
-Basic EM 'Chaff-Field' Spoof Effectors
-ECM/Chaff Flare Launchers
Sensors:
-Broad-band EM Active/Passive(RADAR/LiDAR/Optical/etc)
-mass detector
-Gravitic resonance imaging array
Comms:
-Standard Multi-Band EM transciever package(broadcast, tightbeam, laser)
-Can accept C&C QE Nodes
-Subspace Transciever
-Hyperwave Transciever
-Gravitic Wave-Pulse Transciver





Missiles:


Mallice 3c Thermonuclear Warhead

Classic Stand-off Nuke

Cost: 7 million

Size(LxD):
-5x1m
Warhead: High-Yeild Nuclear Fusion Weapon
-750 Megaton Yeild
Sensors:
-Broad-band EM Active/Passive(RADAR/LiDAR/Optical/etc)
-mass detector
ECM/Stealth:
-RADAR/LiDAR absorbant/refractant coating
-Basic RADAR/LiDAR jamming package
-Basic EM 'Chaff-Field' Spoof Effectors
Drive:
-Varrible Plasma Comtainment Unit
Max Acceleration:
-5500gees
Burn Time:
-40 Seconds(dynamic)
Rate of Rotation:
-130deg/sec
Comms:
-Standard Multi-Band EM transciever package(broadcast, tightbeam, laser)



IronBreaker-VI Bomb-Pumped X-Ray Pulse Warhead

Basic 'stovepipe' bomb-pumped X-ray Pulse warhead on a decent missile.

Cost: 6 million

Size(LxD):
-8x3m
Warhead: X-ray 'stovepipe'
-Effective Beam Range 1500 Kilometers
-475 Megaton Yeild
Sensors:
-Broad-band EM Active/Passive(RADAR/LiDAR/Optical/etc)
ECM/Stealth:
-RADAR/LiDAR absorbant/refractant coating
Drive:
-Varrible Plasma Comtainment Unit
Max Acceleration:
-4000gees
Burn Time:
-30 Seconds(dynamic)
Rate of Rotation:
-175deg/sec
Comms:
-Standard Multi-Band EM transciever package(broadcast, tightbeam, laser)




Archer-XIV

Advanced Bomb-Pumped Precision X-Ray Laserhead; stand-off weapon designed for those with potent point-defence.

Cost: 17 million

Size(LxD):
-9.5x2m
Warhead: X-ray Laserhead
-Effective Beam Range 15'000 Kilometers
-1500 Megaton Yeild
Sensors:
-Broad-band EM Active/Passive(RADAR/LiDAR/Optical/etc)
-mass detector
ECM/Stealth:
-RADAR/LiDAR absorbant/refractant coating
-Basic RADAR/LiDAR jamming package
-Basic EM Comms jamming package
-Basic EM 'Chaff-Field' Spoof Effectors
Drive:
-Varrible Plasma Comtainment Unit
Max Acceleration:
-7500gees
Burn Time:
-60 Seconds(dynamic)
Rate of Rotation:
-150deg/sec
Comms:
-Standard Multi-Band EM transciever package(broadcast, tightbeam, laser)
-Subspace Transciever

To the CEO of Uniphase Armouries Interversal:

We of the Resi Corporation do not request your products, but rather your services in designing new products for us to sell. We are breaking into the space market, and would like a push in the right direction from a corporation already well-versed in such a market.

Did we mention that we will pay you greatly for your designs? No? Then consider it mentioned.

Should you choose to accept our offer, contact us via telegram. We'll be waiting.

CEO Jai Resi
The Resi Corporation

The Nation of Marak would like to commision an small, high speed fighter that can quickly and efficiently attack supply convoys , and then leave as quickly as they came. Do you think you can design us such a craft?

We would also like to purchase four Kobold Patrol Craft for a total of 8 billion USD.

I like that.

Just because i like it will take 100 malice misiles. Might be useful to fit one of my battleships with them.

$700million I believe.

though point for reference.

Combat at anything approaching light speed would be pointless as the pilots wouldn be able to keep up. Even sophisticated AI would get lost. So, In reality you wouldnt have to worry about your lightspeed weapons shooting at lightspeed targets unless you are fighting a non hostile target, slowing down for combat is pretty much a necessity. Unless anyone has thought of a way round this that doesnt involve godmoding.

We're looking into commissioning a high powered battleship for long range assault duties.

Marak:

We can most certaintly meet your request, however, there are several details that would help us design a fighter to best meet your needs, including, but not limited to;

-Endurance time
-Onboard FTL?
-Desired Crew Compliment
-Desired Armament
-Any specific species or language needs

In regaurds to your request for four(4) Kobold-Class Pat/Coms, payment of 8 billion Universal Standard Dollars can be made when you pick them up in Earth orbit, and training materials for your crews will be included. Are there any special species or language requiorments you will be needing?

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Orange State:

Payment of $700 million Universal Standard Dollras can be made when you take delivery of the requested ordinance of 100x Mallice 3c in Earth orbit.

In regaurds to your other comments, the lightspeed concerns has primarily to do with the lightspeed delay of the weapon itself; at 3 lightseconds, aka 900'000 kilometers, even a lightspeed weapon will take 3 seconds to reach it's target, by which time said target may have moved such as to avoid being hit. Thus the dificulty in hitting maneuvering targets at these ranges.

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Centeral Facehuggeria:

We are interested in your proposition, but would been more details in regaurds to your desired end-product in order to design a vessel that would meet your needs.

bump

Basically, we desire a well armored and hard-hitting battleship with standoff attack capability. FTL is a must, STL speed is a secondary priority.

(Battleship 3-8 kilometers in legnth, roughly.) It would also be nice for it to carry several fighter squadrons, but that is less important as well.

We'd like production rights.

You would not be able to produce our standard designs; they would have to utalise either your own technologies, or more conventional ones. Things like NES, IDDs, our partical weapons, and hawking reactors could not be included in any design you wanted to build yourself.

As for your desired specs, a Zenith-class Battlecruiser described above has a 10 gigaton forward and aft armament with a 900'000km range, can pull 550 gravities of acceleration, has armour equivilent to 1.25 kilometers of rolled homogonized steel(RHAe, that's the universal standard for measuring tank armour protection values; actual armour averages 25m thick of NES-12), comes with an FTL drive that can do 20 lightyears/hour or be replaced with your own FTL drive, and it's strikcraft and missile bays, tho designed to handle small unmanned fighters and, well, missiles, can be reconfigured to handle manned craft(actual bay volumes are given in the specs).

How does that compare to what you want?

Not armored enough. :P
Not equipped with enough foward firepower. I need lots of foward firepower. :)

Everything else looks fine. Although some more point defense would be helpful. :D

Missles?
GigtaTon Lasers?
No Thanks. We already have stuff more powerful.

Do they have any kind of Beyond Light Travel?

Missles?
GigtaTon Lasers?
No Thanks. We already have stuff more powerful.

Do they have any kind of Beyond Light Travel?

I'm afraid you don't. Federation weapons are rated in the low megatons for transphasic torpedos, and Phasers are so weak they aren't even worth the time it would take to debase them.

Try again. :)

WIll send a vessel to make the collection it should arrive shortly. It will make a good test run for my jump drive. It will also be a very large vessel for such a small cargo, but most of that is the jump drive. We still have a way to go with them yet....

I'm afraid you don't. Federation weapons are rated in the low megatons for transphasic torpedos, and Phasers are so weak they aren't even worth the time it would take to debase them.

Try again. :)
I'm afraid your wrong.
If you want a lesson in how phasers actually work T/G me.

And as for transphasic torps they detonate inside the target, so they don't have to be.

Not armored enough. :P
Not equipped with enough foward firepower. I need lots of foward firepower. :)

Everything else looks fine. Although some more point defense would be helpful. :D


Zenith-Class Battlecruiser

....

Armament:
-4x 2.5 Gigaton CryoAtomic Lased Particle Beam Pulse Cannon(spinal, forward); 30 second cycle rate
-4x 2.5 Gigaton CryoAtomic Lased Particle Beam Pulse Cannon(spinal, aft); 30 second cycle rate
-24x Internal Missile Racks(6x per side); 50m^3 volume.
-12x 25 Terajoule Pulse Lasers(Fast-Tracking Turrets, Point-Defence); .5 sec cycle rate

See what you can learn by actually reading the ship stats for yourself? :P ;)

How much more armour and firepower are we talking?

Missles?
GigtaTon Lasers?
No Thanks. We already have stuff more powerful.

Do they have any kind of Beyond Light Travel?

If you use Star Trek gear, as CF seems to think, then he's more or less right; ST tech manual gives quantums a 64 megaton yeild, for example, and phasers are in the terajoule range.

And they're partical beams, kinetic energy weapons, not lasers; the fighter weapons and point defence guns are lasers.

And if you read the ship stats, you'll see that they do come with FTL drives, as well as their speed ratings.

WIll send a vessel to make the collection it should arrive shortly. It will make a good test run for my jump drive. It will also be a very large vessel for such a small cargo, but most of that is the jump drive. We still have a way to go with them yet....

You can take delivery at your leasure, just be sure to have payment on hand.

Well sorry for not realizing that a FTL ment Faster Than Light,Just didn't seem apparant. Plus you never said how much faster than light.

You do realize that phasers are much more effiant(SP) than lasers. 1 Terajoule is the amount of power going into a phaser.
a Phaser can pull more much "damage" as you call it than a laser can.
If you want to know how then T/G.

As for megatonnage.
a Star Trek ship could be hit by a several nuclear weapons and have no problems.

FTL is pretty much a universal term; you're the first person I've ever met who didn't know what it ment. Besides, '20 lightyears/hour' is pretty self-explainitory; if you want an actual speed, some very simple math(365(year in days)x24(day in hours)x20(lightyears per hour)) gives a speed of 175'200 times lightspeed.

As for efficency, the power ratings on my weapons are for the energy output, not input. If you're going to argue that phasers can emmit more power than it takes to power them, well, don't go there. Also, only these ship's point defence utalises lasers; my CryoAtomic Lased Particle Beam Pulse Cannons are kinetic energy partical beam weapons.

As for Star Trek ships taking nukes, sure, however, even a Mallice 3c has a yeild over ten times that of a Q-torp, and being hit by one would do an apropriate amount of damage; it is a very powerful nuke, utalising semi-stable superheavy elements for fissionibles.

And single hit from one of my 2.5 gigaton spinal partical beam cannons would be like being hit by more than 40 quantum torpedos, at the very least.


Now, are you going to buy something or not?

How much more armour and firepower are we talking?

I'm thinking more along the lines of in the Teratons for the main guns, and armor at least in the double digits. For instance, 25 meters would be a good solid armor base.

And roughly double that number of point defense.

I'm thinking more along the lines of in the Teratons for the main guns, and armor at least in the double digits. For instance, 25 meters would be a good solid armor base.

And roughly double that number of point defense.


Are you trying to mess with my head or something?

Zenith-Class Battlecruiser
Armour:
-25m Nuclear-force Enhanced Silver(NES), type 12; Aproximatly 1250m RHA-equivilent protection value.

Have you actually read the stats for my ships?



We have designs for a 333 gigaton CryoAtomic Lased Particle Beam Pulse Cannon on hand, which is designed to be mounted in batteries of three, for teraton salvo. We could mount, say, four such fixed batteries in the forward arc, and put a pair of the 2.5 gigaton cannons in the rear to cover the aft arc. Increasing point defence is easily enough done.

Hurm...

The techs down in R&D have drawn up the following specs; what do you think?




Proposed Fell Warden-Class Battle Dreadnaught

Building upon the solid concepts employed in desiging the Zenith, the Fell Warden is a massivly upgunned descendent; larger, with heaver armour, three times the point defence, expanded missile and strikecraft carriage, she weilds fully 400 times a Zenith's firepower in her forward salvo. Designed to meet Central Facehuggerian needs, and does so with only a slight overall loss in speed and maneuveribility compared to her smaller cousin.

Price: 1337 Billion

Legnth:
-4250m
Crew:
-850
Powerplant:
-24x High-End Civilian-Grade Hawking Matter-Annilation Plant w/ Nuetronium superfluid fuel system(can effectivly use any matter for fuel)
Endurance:
-19 years(food)
-25 years(signifigant maintaince)
-500 years(fuel; max non-combat output)
-100 Hours(max combat output)
Drive:
-High-End Civilian-grade Reactionless Inertial Direct-Drive
-Internal Rotary-Control Gyros
-Basic Gravitic Hyperspace Induction Field Drive(holds ship in near-hyperspace while powered); modular and easily replaced.
Acceleration:
-525 gees sustained
-50deg/sec rotation
-17.5 lightyears/hour(FTL)
Armament:
-12x 333 Gigaton CryoAtomic Lased Particle Beam Pulse Cannon(fixed, forward); 50 second cycle rate
-2x 2.5 Gigaton CryoAtomic Lased Particle Beam Pulse Cannon(fixed, aft); 30 second cycle rate
-24x Internal Missile Racks(6x per side); 20x20x20m volume.
-36x 25 Terajoule Pulse Lasers(Fast-Tracking Turrets, Point-Defence); .5 sec cycle rate
Carriage:
-2x 100x50x30m modular Internal Strikecraft Bays(can be configured for launch/maintaince duties)
Armour:
-40m Nuclear-force Enhanced Silver(NES), type 12; Aproximatly 2000m RHA-equivilent protection value.
Stealth/ECM:
-RADAR/LiDAR absorbant/refractant coating
-Zero-Emmision Drive & Reactor
-Zero Thermal-Emmisions
-Basic RADAR/LiDAR jamming package
-Basic EM Comms jamming package
-Basic EM 'Chaff-Field' Spoof Effectors
-ECM/Chaff Flare Launchers
Sensors:
-Broad-band EM Active/Passive(RADAR/LiDAR/Optical/etc)
-mass detector
-Gravitic resonance imaging array
Comms:
-Standard Multi-Band EM transciever package(broadcast, tightbeam, laser)
-Can accept C&C QE Nodes
-Subspace Transciever
-Hyperwave Transciever
-Gravitic Wave-Pulse Transciver

Now we're talking! And I apologize for saying 25m I was trying to say 35m. :P I was really tired when I wrote that. :D

So...It's 1.3 trillion dollars? Fair enough. What about shields? Or can I mount my own?

Also, are we free to rip out the reactors and replace them with our own? Loyalty to home-grown technology by CF fleet admirals at its finest.

Based on current force estimates, we'll be purchasing twenty.

Now we're talking! And I apologize for saying 25m I was trying to say 35m. :P I was really tired when I wrote that. :D

So...It's 1.3 trillion dollars? Fair enough. What about shields? Or can I mount my own?

Also, are we free to rip out the reactors and replace them with our own? Loyalty to home-grown technology by CF fleet admirals at its finest.

Based on current force estimates, we'll be purchasing twenty.

You can mount your own sheilds; we were unable to secure export rights to the Kanuckistani barrier feild from the Department of National Defence, and, not having had prior need for such clearance with our domestic clients, have yet to develop an alternative comparible in cost/benifit ratio to type 12 NES armour.

You can replace the reactors, but I would recomend against it; the Hawking reactors installed are entreamly reliable, rugged, easy to maintain and repair, with an excelent design history, ability to run off of any matter, and fantastic power output. In addition, utalising our equipment avoids any potential hardware or software incompatibility issues.

1337 billion Universal standard dollars is the price tag, tho it also doubles as a pun.

Also, what do you think of the proposed class name?

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1337 billion Universal standard dollars is the price tag, tho it also doubles as a pun.

Also, what do you think of the proposed class name?

How fast can you produce them?

(As for the class name...I'd perfer something a bit more fear inspiring., like "Hades" class battleship, or "Doomguard" class battleship or something. :D I'll probably just rename the class when it arrives. :D)

Edit: Something else I need to know: How many marines can it carry? As in, dedicated infantry.

Bump for saucerhead killing fun!

Perhaps you should call it the bump class? :)

How fast can you produce them?

(As for the class name...I'd perfer something a bit more fear inspiring., like "Hades" class battleship, or "Doomguard" class battleship or something. :D I'll probably just rename the class when it arrives. :D)

Edit: Something else I need to know: How many marines can it carry? As in, dedicated infantry.

The designs are still being finalised; 425 was the perliminary surplus personel capasity, tho that can be expanded easily enough at this point to, say, 2500.

You would be able to set of the smallcraft bays yourself to house several thousand additional personel easily enough, however.

As for the name; Hades, Doomguard, and that ilk are all too common, too over used. They've lost their impact.

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Damn...How do you get so many customers?
If you look at my storefront "Xanters Big Storefront of Xanter's Doohickies" you'll see the only one posting there is me! :( :headbang:

Damn...How do you get so many customers?
If you look at my storefront "Xanters Big Storefront of Xanter's Doohickies" you'll see the only one posting there is me! :( :headbang:

Eh, this isn't what I'd call alot of custumers, considering it's been up for nearly 10 days.

Yer also a new nation.

No,I'm revived.But for some damn reason,everyone here doesn't appeal to ll those pretty pictures I found...

No,I'm revived.But for some damn reason,everyone here doesn't appeal to ll those pretty pictures I found...

Still, you look new, and your storefront's name isn't very good; sounds like a junk shop or something.

And I'm just glad to hear that folks aren't jumping at pretty pictures any more; it's shallow. Last time I tryed this, the only responses I got were complaints that there weren't any pictures - for a couple pages, even.

Now are you going to buy something?

ooc: I've been fooling around with that DoGA program lately. If you want, to stem any bitching, I'd be willing to create a couple of pictures to go along with your ships.

ooc: I've been fooling around with that DoGA program lately. If you want, to stem any bitching, I'd be willing to create a couple of pictures to go along with your ships.

OOC:
Nae, tis not necessary. If I really wanted to, I could persue that route myself, and may eventually do so; I simply don't think highly enough of such people to seek to apease them, otherwise I'd have probally borrowed pics from a web board I frequent.

I'm not saying don't, if you want to, but I'm not going to promass that I'll use them if you do. I'm picky when it comes to my creations, ya know ;)

Thanks for the offer, however, and feel free to look over the merchandise while you're here.

Back to my original question: How fast can you produce the Fell Warden?

Back to my original question: How fast can you produce the Fell Warden?

Assuming that you find the latest stats agreeible, one RL week per unit. We have more than ample idle yard capasity to produce 10 in paralell.

As for efficency, the power ratings on my weapons are for the energy output, not input. If you're going to argue that phasers can emmit more power than it takes to power them, well, don't go there. Also, only these ship's point defence utalises lasers; my CryoAtomic Lased Particle Beam Pulse Cannons are kinetic energy partical beam weapons.

least.


Now, are you going to buy something or not?
OOC: I feel stupid I was using an entireley different rating system!
Of crouse it would be no problem to build phasers just as powerful or more powerful! And expect the ECF to build phasers to match and even surpass your lasers!
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Anyway I'll take a

Zenith-Class Battlecruiser

OOC: I feel stupid I was using an entireley different rating system!
Of crouse it would be no problem to build phasers just as powerful or more powerful! And expect the ECF to build phasers to match and even surpass your lasers!
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Anyway I'll take a

Zenith-Class Battlecruiser

IC:

That will be $42 billion Universal Standard Dollars; payment can be made when you take delivery in Earth orbit, and includes crew training materials.

Are there any language, species, or culture related custumizations that you will requior?

OOC:
So you're comparing your main armament to my point defence tech? :p

Again, the lasers are not the main armament.

As for gigaton-yeild phasers, well, I certaintly imagine that it would be a massive problem; you'd need massivly more powerful reactors and systems capible of handling and converting the extra power. That would take a good while to develop, and don't expect to get any help from buying a Zenith; attempting to reverse engineer any of the things on my products will result in a rather large explosion, as mentioned in the opening post.

Assuming that you find the latest stats agreeible, one RL week per unit. We have more than ample idle yard capasity to produce 10 in paralell.

Excellent. How does eleven trillion per RL week sound (Over two weeks) sound?

OOC: I just want to build phasers that can top your main armerment.
I have no intrest on lasers.
As for gigaton Damage my new line of ships have 3 warp cores so that won't be a problem
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Money will be wired on confermation of order.
How long do you expect?

OOC: I just want to build phasers that can top your main armerment.

I somehow doubt that's possible. The main Kanuckistani weapons are rated in the exatons. For comparision, my largest weapon (me being a highly advanced future tech nation.) Is a 25 teraton explosive weapon. And I only have one of them, and it's hideously expensive.

Even a gigaton phaser (equal in damage to the main weapons on Kanuckistani export vessels) is nearly impossible. Unless of course you've got it spinal mounted, with five to ten warp cores powering it at once. And even then, the power drain will be so signifigant that the ship won't be able to shield itself, or even move at warp while the gun is charging.

OOC: This is NS. This means I don't have to follow the rules of Cannon trek.
As for 3 Gigaton Phasers. it's quite possible. And yes it would be easy to get a warpcore to output that much.
Trust me I will figure out a way. You'd be surpiresed at how big a warpcore can be.

Excellent. How does eleven trillion per RL week sound (Over two weeks) sound?

Like you failed basic math and your calculator is in the shop ;) :p

13.37 trillion per week, over two weeks. It's 1.337 trillion per unit.


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Money will be wired on confermation of order.
How long do you expect?

If you don't requior custumization? Now is good; we have a number of them in stock.

If you read my last post, you would know that you can make payment when you take delivery; consider the order confirmed.

Ok Cool. Money is being wired right now expect it tomarrow.
Good doing Business

OOC: You just got a bored trekkie interested in building more powerful weapons.
Yes I will figure out a way to build 3 gigaton phasers!

Like you failed basic math and your calculator is in the shop ;) :p

13.37 trillion per week, over two weeks. It's 1.337 trillion per unit.

Yes, I did indeed fail basic math. I'm much better at writing. :D

13.50 Trillion per week then. The extra is for any customizations we request down the road (like custom paintjobs and such.)

Now are you going to buy something?

Yes.I'd like to purchase 15
ACX-1 Daemon's Bane Class Interceptors.Mony wired upon confirmation.We'll probably do business with you again :)

ECF: Payment reception confirmed, you can pick your ship up at your leasure.

CF: Construction as per finalised specs has begun, and the 10 Batch One Fell Warden's will be ready one RL week hence. Meanwhile, payment would be apreciated.

Xanter: That comes to 225 million Universal Standard Dollars. You can pick them up in Earth orbit at your convenience, provided you make payment befor hand or at the time. Manuals and training material are included.

Ok cool the ECF Miranda will beam a skelton crew aboard who will take the ship.

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Marak would like to purchase 1000 of the ACX-1 Daemon's Bane Class Interceptor, the units are to be delivered to Marak's Orbital ship yards, money will be wired upon succesfull delivery.

Okay. *Money electronically wired to the proper accounts.*

There goes the last of my inactivity savings. :D The next payment will come next friday. Primarily because it would take me that much time to tax the people. :D

Oh, and can the weapons be removed eventually? So I could refit the ships should any...important developments in CF weapons technology be made?

Marak would like to purchase 1000 of the ACX-1 Daemon's Bane Class Interceptor, the units are to be delivered to Marak's Orbital ship yards, money will be wired upon succesfull delivery.

That comes to $15 billion USD; where are your shipyards?

Also, you will have to pay prior to delivery; everyone else does, and you did fail to finalise your last order on the first page.



Okay. *Money electronically wired to the proper accounts.*

There goes the last of my inactivity savings. :D The next payment will come next friday. Primarily because it would take me that much time to tax the people. :D

Oh, and can the weapons be removed eventually? So I could refit the ships should any...important developments in CF weapons technology be made?

Payment confirmed; Batch One will be ready on the 24th, Batch Two on the 31st.

And yes, all ships are of a semi-modular design to help facilitate construction, maintaince, and repair; if your crews follow the included manuals, they shouldn't risk setting off the scuttling charges. Tho we'd sugest sending us any removed components for desposal or recycling; if agreeible, we'd be more than willing to help facilitate their safe and expediant removal at the time.

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You know, you could always put your storefront on the International Mall (http://s6.invisionfree.com/International_Mall/index.php?act=idx). It's a collective of storefronts, where you don't have to bump your topics every day. :D

ECF: Payment reception confirmed, you can pick your ship up at your leasure.

I feel stupid!
I forgot where your shipyards are....
So if you could send one of my ships a message that would be nice.

I feel stupid!
I forgot where your shipyards are....
So if you could send one of my ships a message that would be nice.

That's classifyed for security reasons; however, all pick ups and deliveries are conducted in Earth orbit, unless otherwise requested.

Thanks, I'll have a ship in earth orbit tomarrow,Nice doing business with you.

We are pleased by the preformance of the Zenith-Class Battlecruiser.
In fact it out does our new TITAN class by alot.
We wish to purchase 8 more of your Zenith-Class Battlecruisers
*throws a suitcase of money on the table*

We are pleased by the preformance of the Zenith-Class Battlecruiser.
In fact it out does our new TITAN class by alot.
We wish to purchase 8 more of your Zenith-Class Battlecruisers
*throws a suitcase of money on the table*

Your total comes to 336 Billion for 8; you can pick them up at your leasure once payment has been made.


Have you actually used it in RP yet?

Your ships are to cheap man. I'm paying you 1 trillion. Because I want a giant Neon Sign on the side of them that says " ECF OWNS"
And Not yet. Though I may send it to Coreworlds.
My Flagship is also there. I want to see how the one I already have performs.

Your ships are to cheap man. I'm paying you 1 trillion.

I won't object to you giving me money, but hundreds of billions ain't exactly chump change.

Anyway, ya can pick 'em up when payment is made; we'll even include those neon signs if you really want 'em.

You know, you could always put your storefront on the International Mall (http://s6.invisionfree.com/International_Mall/index.php?act=idx). It's a collective of storefronts, where you don't have to bump your topics every day. :D

I know about it; it's on my list of "Things To Do When I Get Around To Them(TM)"

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Kanuckistan, is there ANY chance of me buying a Battleplate? It would cost in the hundred of trillions, but I COULD pay it off.

Kanuckistan, is there ANY chance of me buying a Battleplate? It would cost in the hundred of trillions, but I COULD pay it off.

OOC:
A Battleplate's true strength stems from several key technologies; these technologies are, however, state secrets, and not for sale. In fact, if I suspected that you had aquiored them, I'd probally glass you befor you got a chance to spread them beyond yourself; we don't take issues of national security lightly.

So, I could sell you a bigass battleship that strongly resembled a Battleplate, but it wouldn't be one.

Cybertronus wishes to purchase 5400 Mallice 3c Thermonuclear Warheads.
37.8 billion wired to Futurtech.

Thank you.

OOC:
A Battleplate's true strength stems from several key technologies; these technologies are, however, state secrets, and not for sale. In fact, if I suspected that you had aquiored them, I'd probally glass you befor you got a chance to spread them beyond yourself; we don't take issues of national security lightly.

So, I could sell you a bigass battleship that strongly resembled a Battleplate, but it wouldn't be one.
OOC: Would it be almost as strong as a Battleplate? And could I modify it?

Cybertronus wishes to purchase 5400 Mallice 3c Thermonuclear Warheads.
37.8 billion wired to Futurtech.

Thank you.

Payment confirmed; you can pick up your order in Earth orbit at your leasure, unless you wish to make alternate arrangments

OOC: Would it be almost as strong as a Battleplate? And could I modify it?

OOC:
Not anywhere near as combat effective as a battleplate; what makes the BPs special, rather than being 'just another giant battleship,' are their feilds and other assorted tech, and those aren't for sale, even to allies.

OOC: Damn you Kanuckistan, damn you! :D

OOC: Damn you Kanuckistan, damn you! :D

OOC:
Well, if you want a Battleplate that bad, I can always have the KHGV Jagged Razor of Methodical Dismemberment drop by your homeworld for a live fire exercise. :p ;)

*bumpity*

Yab

OOC: Those are nice ships I want more!
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The ECF Wishs to purchase 12 Zenith-Class Battlecruisers We normally do not like using other tech. But this is so amazing!

OOC: Those are nice ships I want more!
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The ECF Wishs to purchase 12 Zenith-Class Battlecruisers We normally do not like using other tech. But this is so amazing!

Sure; 504 billion. Same pick up conditions as last time, etc.

OOC:
You use them in RP yet?

I am picking them up in 30 minutes, Money is being wired.

OOC: I have not gotten in a war that constiues the need for them yet :(
But GZ wants me to use them in his werid war agnist the ESUS, Like i'm gonna risk them fighting a meaningless war.

I am picking them up in 30 minutes, Money is being wired.

OOC: I have not gotten in a war that constiues the need for them yet :(
But GZ wants me to use them in his werid war agnist the ESUS, Like i'm gonna risk them fighting a meaningless war.

OOC:
Considering that I'm an ESUS member, yeah, that would be really stupid ;)

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The colonies of New Exodus wish to know if we might purchase a number of your Entanglement-based communications devices. We would require 30 paired units.

The colonies of New Exodus wish to know if we might purchase a number of your Entanglement-based communications devices. We would require 30 paired units.

Ok...

$250'000 USD per pair for the fighter-based units; they have to be brought together and reset every month, however.

If that's acceptible, the price is $7.5 million Universal Standard Dollars. You can take delivery in Earth orbit.

Be advised that standard anti-reverse-engineering provisions are in place.

That is perfectly acceptable to us. We shall transfer the funds immediately.

~Transferring 7,500,000 Universal Standard Dollars~

That is perfectly acceptable to us. We shall transfer the funds immediately.

~Transferring 7,500,000 Universal Standard Dollars~

Payment confirmed.

They've been shipped to an orbital transfer station in low Earth orbit, the location of which is attached to this message; you can pick them up at your leasure.

OOC :: If you people can limit your role play to before 2050 I invite you to join the International Fleet - If, that is, you can agree to the minimal terms of entry to the IF.

:D

OOC :: If you people can limit your role play to before 2050 I invite you to join the International Fleet - If, that is, you can agree to the minimal terms of entry to the IF.

:D

OOC:
Take a good look at what I'm selling and ask yourself if I could be considered 2050 tech.

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Time to buy!

The Rebel Alliance would like:
4 Athens-Class Combat Carriers
3 Zenith-Class Battlecruisers
10 Kobold-Class Patrol/Combatants
Coming to 246 billion.

And an installment paid out for 2 Fell Warden-Class Battle Dreadnaughts. We do still have an economy, albiet a weak one. :)

Time to buy!

The Rebel Alliance would like:
4 Athens-Class Combat Carriers
3 Zenith-Class Battlecruisers
10 Kobold-Class Patrol/Combatants
Coming to 246 billion.

And an installment paid out for 2 Fell Warden-Class Battle Dreadnaughts. We do still have an economy, albiet a weak one. :)


25x4=100
42x3=126
2x10=20
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246(subtotal)*0.85(15% discount)=209.1 billion

That leaves 790.9 billion in your trillion dollar credit.


Two Fell Wardens come to 2674(subtotal)*0.85(discount)=2272.9 billion total

If you'd like to put the remainder of your credit towards them, that would leave 1482 billion owing.

The first 17 craft will be delivered to Kyoto shortly, along with crew training materials and the ilk. We will requior an additional 345.55 billion befor you can take delivery of the first Fell Warden - we have several in stock, requioring an (IC) week of refurbishing prior to delivery; that will start now.

Afterwards, the ballance of 1136.45 billion will be requiored to take delivery of the second Fell Warden.

Good. We can pay the first part up front (345.55B). The second part will be paid in installments of 200 billion per year (RL day), sometimes paid with items swiped from Sith convoys.

Good. We can pay the first part up front (345.55B). The second part will be paid in installments of 200 billion per year (RL day), sometimes paid with items swiped from Sith convoys.

Alright, so the 20th then. The other craft should be arriving in Kyoto shortly; you can deploy crews to meet them there any time now.

Kanuckistan, I need a ship designed and produced, hopefully receiving battleready ships within the next 2 years (2 real days). The ship needs to be of large size rangeing from Dreadnaught to Cruiser/Destroyer. The main goal of ship design is to have a ship that can stay extremely far back and spew long range torpedoes/missiles at the enemy en masse. I will pay you handsomely for both the design and following production. FTL is necessary, as is a long endurance. Armor is not of highest priority and more long range weapon components should take precedence.

Kanuckistan, I need a ship designed and produced, hopefully receiving battleready ships within the next 2 years (2 real days). The ship needs to be of large size rangeing from Dreadnaught to Cruiser/Destroyer. The main goal of ship design is to have a ship that can stay extremely far back and spew long range torpedoes/missiles at the enemy en masse. I will pay you handsomely for both the design and following production. FTL is necessary, as is a long endurance. Armor is not of highest priority and more long range weapon components should take precedence.

So basicly a missile cruiser. Hows this?

Ashen Wind-Class Missile Cruiser

Price: 68 Billion

Legnth:
-1450m
Crew:
-450
Powerplant:
-6x High-End Civilian-Grade Hawking Matter-Annilation Plant w/ Nuetronium superfluid fuel system(can effectivly use any matter for fuel)
Endurance:
-15 years(food)
-27 years(signifigant maintaince)
-250 years(fuel; max non-combat output)
-100 Hours(max combat output)
Drive:
-High-End Civilian-grade Reactionless Inertial Direct-Drive
-Internal Rotary-Control Gyros
-Basic Gravitic Hyperspace Induction Field Drive(holds ship in near-hyperspace while powered); modular and easily replaced.
Acceleration:
-550 gees sustained
-55deg/sec rotation
-20 lightyears/hour(FTL)
Armament:
-2x 3.5 Gigaton CryoAtomic Lased Particle Beam Pulse Cannon(spinal); 30 second cycle rate
-18x 20 Terajoule Pulse Lasers(Fast-Tracking Turrets, Point-Defence); .5 sec cycle rate
-50x Internal Missile Racks(40x forward, 6x aft, 2x per side); 50m^3 volume each.
Carriage:
-2x 20m^3 modular Internal Strikecraft Bays(can be configured for launch/maintaince duties)
Armour:
-25m Nuclear-force Enhanced Silver(NES), type 12; Aproximatly 1250m RHA-equivilent protection value.
Stealth/ECM:
-RADAR/LiDAR absorbant/refractant coating
-Zero-Emmision Drive & Reactor
-Zero Thermal-Emmisions
-Basic RADAR/LiDAR jamming package
-Basic EM Comms jamming package
-Basic EM 'Chaff-Field' Spoof Effectors
-ECM/Chaff Flare Launchers
Sensors:
-Broad-band EM Active/Passive(RADAR/LiDAR/Optical/etc)
-mass detector
-Gravitic resonance imaging array
Comms:
-Standard Multi-Band EM transciever package(broadcast, tightbeam, laser)
-Can accept C&C QE Nodes
-Subspace Transciever
-Hyperwave Transciever
-Gravitic Wave-Pulse Transciver

Would be perfect. Shadow Tech will order 10 of them immediately and upon their performance more will be ordered.

Total Cost comes to - $680,000,000

Would be perfect. Shadow Tech will order 10 of them immediately and upon their performance more will be ordered.

Total Cost comes to - $680,000,000

Your order has been queued up for construction; we've alot of spare shipyard capasity at the moment, so they should be ready in 12 RL hours.

You'll be able to pick them up in Earth orbit any time after that, once we've confirmed recipt of payment - or you can pay when you pick them up.

The converted SandMan Slaveships with the payment arrived near Earth orbit, sending their intentions to Kanuckistan in an instant.

The converted SandMan Slaveships with the payment arrived near Earth orbit, sending their intentions to Kanuckistan in an instant.

OOC:
Heh; you really took that litterily, didn't 'cha? :P

IC:
The ten Ashen Wind class vessels were docked at an ancient orbital transfer station in low Earth Orbit, and it was from there that the reply came; the Shadow Tech craft were given permision to dock and, once payment had been made, take their requested vessels after reviewing the manuals and associated crew training materials that would show them how to operate the missile cruisers.

Hah yea

The Shadow Tech ships docked and soon were unloading crewmembers to pilot the Ashen Winds along with payment.

The Orcish Shaman Horde of Gaia Rodina will require one Zenith-Class Battlecruiser to bolster our fleet. We will pick it up.

Hah yea

The Shadow Tech ships docked and soon were unloading crewmembers to pilot the Ashen Winds along with payment.

The station personel were quite helpful, showing the ST crew around and helping them get a handle for the new hardware - the payment itself was quickly confirmed, and soon thereafter they were cleared to release the vessels into Shadow Tech hands by their superriors.

The Orcish Shaman Horde of Gaia Rodina will require one Zenith-Class Battlecruiser to bolster our fleet. We will pick it up.

Your order comes to $42 billion Universal Standard Dollars; payment may be made in advance electronicly or upon pickup. As a fairly popular model, there are several in stock, and so your vessel will be arriving momentarily in Earth orbit.

Kanuckistan, I must ask for a custom ship from you.

I require a ship that will function as a (Nearly) immobile defense ship.

I will need it to be exceptionally heavily armed with point-defense weapons for the interception of missiles and fighters (Seriously, we're talking enough to turn a small armada of fighters into scrap), large amounts of shielding and armor for defense, and (The real doozy), be at least 10 Kilometers long, and 5 Kilometers tall. The ship should be quite thin though, if you don't count the armor, and all the weapons should be on one of it's gigantic sides (So it's basically a gigantic armored plate, with guns attached)

Yes, you heard that right. Thing is, I use gigantic Orbital platforms to house my entire race. We already have a massive fleet, but it doesn't really excel at defense, only attack.

Thus, we come to you. We need 5 of these (If you are willing to build them) for trial purposes, and if we are able to afford the long-term payments, and they are to our satisfaction, we will buy more over a (Very) long period of time.

Oh, and I should mention, engines for moving these things won't be needed, apart from small thrusters to allow it to move around the Orbital, to keep itself in the way of fire. For the most part, it will be towed, so the thrusters need only be (Extremely) minimal, since they'll be for emergencies only.

Pretty please?

Proposed Meat Sheild-Class Stationary Fire Magnet

Price: 750 Billion

Dimentions:
-400m x 8000m x 11'500m
Crew:
-1050
Powerplant:
-14x High-End Civilian-Grade Hawking Matter-Annilation Plant w/ Nuetronium superfluid fuel system(can effectivly use any matter for fuel)
Drive:
-High-End Civilian-grade Reactionless Inertial Direct-Drive
-Internal Rotary-Control Gyros
Acceleration:
-1.1 gee sustained
-4deg/sec rotation
Armament:
-7500x 150 Terajoule Pulse Lasers(Fast-Tracking Turrets, Point-Defence); .5 sec cycle rate
Carriage:
-2x 75x50x25m modular Internal Strikecraft Bays(can be configured for launch/maintaince duties)
Armour:
-140m Nuclear-force Enhanced Silver(NES), type 12; Aproximatly 7000m RHA-equivilent protection value(armour values 1/10th on 'back' face).
Stealth/ECM:
-Basic RADAR/LiDAR jamming package
-Basic EM Comms jamming package
Sensors:
-Broad-band EM Active/Passive(RADAR/LiDAR/Optical/etc)
-mass detector
-Gravitic resonance imaging array
Comms:
-Standard Multi-Band EM transciever package(broadcast, tightbeam, laser)
-Can accept C&C QE Nodes
-Subspace Transciever
-Hyperwave Transciever
-Gravitic Wave-Pulse Transciver

[OOC]: *Ahem*

......ZOMG!

SO FSCKING PRETTY! IT HAS SO MUCH STUFF THAT I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT! I MUST HAVE IT!

I mean, uh.....wee!

Well, considering how much stuff it has that makes my brain hurt, it HAS to be good. I'll be ordering five now, and the money shall be wired to you upon the pickup of the items (I'll send a few (Hundred) civilian tugs to pick the things up)

Oh, and Fire Magnet is easily the best definition of this thing ever.

They'll be delivered to Earth Orbit for pickup, one avalible per RL day. Total cost for five units comes to $3.75 trillion USD.

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The Holy Empire of Megas will order 10 ACX-1 Daemon's Bane Class Interceptors for comparison with our many classes of Veritech fighters. Total price: $150 million

The Holy Empire of Megas will order 10 ACX-1 Daemon's Bane Class Interceptors for comparison with our many classes of Veritech fighters. Total price: $150 million

You can pick them up in Earth orbit any time after making payment.

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Bumpity

10% off next order.

Kanuckistan, after exhaustive tests, we have decided that the Meat Shield class Stationary Fire-Magnet is exactly what we need, but we have one request. Is it possible to give it shielding capable of stopping energy-based weapons, as well as physical weapons and (If possible), the more exotic weapons used by some nations? (E.g. Gravity weapons.)

Of course, I don't mean to say that it should have one shield-generator doing all this. Multiple shield generators would be needed of course, so as to cover the entirety of the ship. I would also prefer that, if you can add shielding, the shielding will overlap heavily, so as to allow maximum protection.

We will, of course, pay extra for the shielding-equipped ships, and will order 2 for testing, and 10 more after that if they meet our standards.

Bumpity
Maybe this will inject some life, Give me your most powerful ship that you would be willing to sell. I don't care how much it costs. As long as it has very good specs. I am willing to pay for it.

Kanuckistan, after exhaustive tests, we have decided that the Meat Shield class Stationary Fire-Magnet is exactly what we need, but we have one request. Is it possible to give it shielding capable of stopping energy-based weapons, as well as physical weapons and (If possible), the more exotic weapons used by some nations? (E.g. Gravity weapons.)

Of course, I don't mean to say that it should have one shield-generator doing all this. Multiple shield generators would be needed of course, so as to cover the entirety of the ship. I would also prefer that, if you can add shielding, the shielding will overlap heavily, so as to allow maximum protection.

We will, of course, pay extra for the shielding-equipped ships, and will order 2 for testing, and 10 more after that if they meet our standards.

Quite possible, but expensive given the requisite volume and power - it would be rather pointless, afterall, if they didn't provide protection aproaching that of the armour base.

Dual Standing Barrier Feilds should suffice for stoping directed energy and kinetics; they'd recharge fairly fast, and, to spare you the technobabble, treat any incoming weapon energy - from bullet to plasma to weapons designed to rapidly deplete sheilds - the same, regaurdless of how widly seperated or tightly concentrated they are. They are also immune to 'bleed through' or developing 'holes' prior to failure; when they're up, nothing's getting through.

Dual sheilds provide a marked advantage, in that one can be deactivated to allow faster recharging while the other takes fire - against heavy fire it probally won't be able to recharge too much befor the first goes down, but it does delay the inevitible. Two systems also provide redundency against possible sabatoge or sneak attack.

Excluding recharge potential, the sheilds sould increase overall protection factor by an overall factor of roughly 75%, for an additional cost of $500 billion USD(two SBF effectors + hawking reactors for power). They would also necessitate advanced protections against reverse engineering, so don't assign any engineers who can't follow the manuals', or you'll be left with a very expensive chunk of ballist.

As for exotic weapons, do you want protection against just gravitic, or is there a broader spectrum you have in mind?



Maybe this will inject some life, Give me your most powerful ship that you would be willing to sell. I don't care how much it costs. As long as it has very good specs. I am willing to pay for it.

The most powerful ship curently designed IS the Fell Warden, and costs 1.337 trillion USD.

Kanuckistani military craft aren't for sale; this is a privatly operated storefront.

The main thing that worries us is the now widespread use of wormhole technology in space warfare. Many fleets now use wormholes to transport ordanance (Ordinence? Ordinance?) directly inside an enemy ship, thus bypassing all shielding and armour. We need something that can withstand such trickery.

Also, although it is a secondary concern, we ARE worried about weapons that use gravity to do damage, such as the ever-popular black-hole generator. We do not need something capable of withstand the might of a black-hole from extremely close-range, as we don't intend for our enemies to get close enough to use them, but we do need them to be capable of standing up to excessively high amounts of Gravity.

The main thing that worries us is the now widespread use of wormhole technology in space warfare. Many fleets now use wormholes to transport ordanance (Ordinence? Ordinance?) directly inside an enemy ship, thus bypassing all shielding and armour. We need something that can withstand such trickery.

Also, although it is a secondary concern, we ARE worried about weapons that use gravity to do damage, such as the ever-popular black-hole generator. We do not need something capable of withstand the might of a black-hole from extremely close-range, as we don't intend for our enemies to get close enough to use them, but we do need them to be capable of standing up to excessively high amounts of Gravity.

Hurm; we do have access to the requisite technology, but it is tightly controled, and rather expensive; truespace barrier feilds and gravitic slip feilds.

I'll see what I can do.

Technically we don't actually need said technology equipped on the ships. We could simply use the shield generators and equip them to the Orbital Platforms....

Very well, here is my proposition. I wish to buy either production rights to the Meat Shield Class Stationary Fire Magnet, or 5 more Meat Shield Class Stationary Fire Magnets.

Also, I wish to either buy the production rights to your Truespace Barrier Field generators and Gravitic Slip Field generators, or buy an amount determined once I find out how large an area a single generator can cover.

I will order 1 Fell Warden-Class Battle Dreadnaught.

We are working on a new generation of ships. And we reqire 2 pecies of tech which we do not have.
I need somthing that is capable of stopping Fold Drives from opening up "folds" into my ship.
I am need of somthing that can stop the opening of black holes and wormhole defense.

Technically we don't actually need said technology equipped on the ships. We could simply use the shield generators and equip them to the Orbital Platforms....

Very well, here is my proposition. I wish to buy either production rights to the Meat Shield Class Stationary Fire Magnet, or 5 more Meat Shield Class Stationary Fire Magnets.

Also, I wish to either buy the production rights to your Truespace Barrier Field generators and Gravitic Slip Field generators, or buy an amount determined once I find out how large an area a single generator can cover.

Unfortunatly, it would be illegal for our company, Uniphase Armouries Interversal, to sell you production rights to controled technology, or otherwise facilitate the spread of such without the proper precautions to insure reverse engineering is impossible.

It would also do you little good; SALP types are requiored in the manufacture of this technology, and few nations are capible of producing such material in even a labratory setting, much less on an industrial scale.

The cost for 5 upgraded units is 1.25 trillion each; 6.25 trillion for the batch. One avalible per RL day, as per the originals.

TSBEs and GSFs can be designed to cover any desirible volume, however, we're still working to secure the ability to sell finished units to you; the Kanuckistani military is reluctant to let us, and working through bureaucratic channels is.. well, like working with any bureaucracy, pretty much. It could take some time.



I will order 1 Fell Warden-Class Battle Dreadnaught.

We are working on a new generation of ships. And we reqire 2 pecies of tech which we do not have.


1.337 trillion for the ship; we have one currently nearing completion, intended for corperate use, but for an upstanding custumer like yourself, I think we can reallocate it.

It will be ready in 1 RL day; same arrangments as befor.

I need somthing that is capable of stopping Fold Drives from opening up "folds" into my ship.
I am need of somthing that can stop the opening of black holes and wormhole defense.


On the first point, see the above address concerning Truespace Barrier Effectors.

On the second, you are unclear in what you're asking for; Gravitic Slip Feilds, which inhibit gravitational interactions, may suffice - if so, see above.

Very well. We will pay for each upgraded ship as it is delivered, and just to be sure, we'll also order 3 of each generator if you manage to get the rights to sell it to us.

Very well. We will pay for each upgraded ship as it is delivered, and just to be sure, we'll also order 3 of each generator if you manage to get the rights to sell it to us.

Very well; if and when we secure such we'll let you know so that details can be worked out at that time.

Your first Meat Sheild(U) will be ready shortly.

Excellent! We are glad to do buisness with you, and hope our nations can keep good relations in the future.

Unfortunatly, it would be illegal for our company, Uniphase Armouries Interversal, to sell you production rights to controled technology, or otherwise facilitate the spread of such without the proper precautions to insure reverse engineering is impossible.

It would also do you little good; SALP types are requiored in the manufacture of this technology, and few nations are capible of producing such material in even a labratory setting, much less on an industrial scale.

The cost for 5 upgraded units is 1.25 trillion each; 6.25 trillion for the batch. One avalible per RL day, as per the originals.

TSBEs and GSFs can be designed to cover any desirible volume, however, we're still working to secure the ability to sell finished units to you; the Kanuckistani military is reluctant to let us, and working through bureaucratic channels is.. well, like working with any bureaucracy, pretty much. It could take some time.





1.337 trillion for the ship; we have one currently nearing completion, intended for corperate use, but for an upstanding custumer like yourself, I think we can reallocate it.

It will be ready in 1 RL day; same arrangments as befor.



On the first point, see the above address concerning Truespace Barrier Effectors.

On the second, you are unclear in what you're asking for; Gravitic Slip Feilds, which inhibit gravitational interactions, may suffice - if so, see above.
Perfection! This ship promises to bring some more firepower to the fleet.

Also the FDR is growing quite old, it is the flagship and it is in need a replacement.
We would be willing to pay in installments up to the sum of 95 Trillion Dollars.
We want it to be at least 14km long. And have the most advanced techology your storefront can develop. Could this be done?

Could you be more specific?

Well to be blunt. Our Flagship is old, it will remain and it looks very imtimidating. However we do not have the proper ship yards to build another ship of it's size.
We need a new "Terror Ship"
The FDR cannot be upgraded for awhile we have NO NEW WEAPON systems.

I want you to build the biggest and most powerful ship you can build with 95 trillion dollars.

Well to be blunt. Our Flagship is old, it will remain and it looks very imtimidating. However we do not have the proper ship yards to build another ship of it's size.
We need a new "Terror Ship"
The FDR cannot be upgraded for awhile we have NO NEW WEAPON systems.

I want you to build the biggest and most powerful ship you can build with 95 trillion dollars.

Okey-dokie; that we can do.

But I want to know what kind of weaponry, marine, strikecraft, etc loadouts you're looking for.

Basicly, what do you want it to be able to do?

We have out own marines so thats not a problem.
The FDR is a Mobile " Surpressing Fire Uber Ship" It has a very wide complement of quantum based weapons.
I need somthing more powerful.
I want the most advanced weapons and defenses you can build. And a large fighter complenment.

How's this?

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Pyric Divinity-Class Imperium Evicerator

Price: 95 Trillion

Legnth:
-12.8 km
Crew:
-2850
Marine Compliment:
-12'500
Powerplant:
-86x High-End Military-Grade Hawking Matter-Annilation Plant w/ Nuetronium superfluid fuel system(can effectivly use any matter for fuel)
Endurance:
-26 years(food)
-25 years(signifigant maintaince)
-500 years(fuel; max non-combat output)
-240 Hours(max combat output)
Drive:
-High-End Civilian-grade Reactionless Inertial Direct-Drive
-Internal Rotary-Control Gyros
-Basic Gravitic Hyperspace Induction Field Drive(holds ship in near-hyperspace while powered); modular and easily replaced.
Acceleration:
-503 gees sustained
-15deg/sec rotation
-22.5 lightyears/hour(FTL)
Armament:
-2x 1750 Teraton CryoAtomic Lased Particle Beam Pulse Cannon(fixed, forward); 1 hour cycle rate - Note: only 1 can be recharged at a time
-4x 25 Teraton CryoAtomic Lased Particle Beam Pulse Cannon(turreted); 180 second cycle rate
-125x 80 Gigaton CryoAtomic Lased Particle Beam Pulse Cannon(turreted); 20 second cycle rate
-750x 25 kiloton Pulse Lasers(Fast-Tracking Turrets, Point-Defence); .5 sec cycle rate
Carriage:
-4x 250x150x30m modular Internal Strikecraft Bays(can be configured for launch/maintaince duties)
Armour:
-400m Nuclear-force Enhanced Silver(NES), type 12; Aproximatly 20000m RHA-equivilent protection value.
Stealth/ECM:
-RADAR/LiDAR absorbant/refractant coating
-Zero-Emmision Drive & Reactor
-Zero Thermal-Emmisions
-Basic RADAR/LiDAR jamming package
-Basic EM Comms jamming package
-Basic EM 'Chaff-Field' Spoof Effectors
-ECM/Chaff Flare Launchers
Sensors:
-Broad-band EM Active/Passive(RADAR/LiDAR/Optical/etc)
-mass detector
-Gravitic resonance imaging array
Comms:
-Standard Multi-Band EM transciever package(broadcast, tightbeam, laser)
-Can accept C&C QE Nodes
-Subspace Transciever
-Hyperwave Transciever
-Gravitic Wave-Pulse Transciver

Very very nice. However it doesn't seem to have any kind of energy sheilding!
Or do your ships relay on Armour instead of energy sheilding?
Teraton weapons- very very nice.
I am looking for an "Uber Weapon" If you can develop an incredibly powerful weapon for use only in nessaary situoions I'll knock it up to 100 trillion .

Very very nice. However it doesn't seem to have any kind of energy sheilding!
Or do your ships relay on Armour instead of energy sheilding?
Teraton weapons- very very nice.
I am looking for an "Uber Weapon" If you can develop an incredibly powerful weapon for use only in nessaary situoions I'll knock it up to 100 trillion .

Sheilds are non-standard on export craft, and they are heavily armoured; there are provisions allowing you to easily add your own, however.

As for Uber weapons, there are already two 1750 teraton cannons, each posessing a 1 hour cycle period; although only one can be recharged at a time, they should easily meet your needs.

Sounds excelent. Though there is an reqest, I want you to expand the engine room or just create a seperate one. We need to hook up one of our own QC Reactors about as large as a galaxy class Warp Reactor Room. The reasonning? We need the type of energy it produces to power the new quantum weapons we are developing and plan to add them a few years after devilary.
Also I would like to have you intall 3, 20 Million Terawatt sheild genertaors. I will have them sent to you, Because the need to be intergrated into the hull. And are not exactly easy to install on a finished ship.
Our QC reactors produce MASSIVE amounts of power. Is it possible to recharge them both? Or would the power relays not be able to take it?
Also I want you to install some fold drives, because we find them quite useful in battle. If you dont have any I'll simply install them myself. If we can hammer these last issues out then start building and you will recive your 1st payment of 10 trillion.

Sounds excelent. Though there is an reqest, I want you to expand the engine room or just create a seperate one. We need to hook up one of our own QC Reactors about as large as a galaxy class Warp Reactor Room. The reasonning? We need the type of energy it produces to power the new quantum weapons we are developing and plan to add them a few years after devilary.


Easily enough done.


Also I would like to have you intall 3, 20 Million Terawatt sheild genertaors. I will have them sent to you, Because the need to be intergrated into the hull. And are not exactly easy to install on a finished ship.


4.8 gigatons/second each? That shouldn't be difficult.

Our QC reactors produce MASSIVE amounts of power. Is it possible to recharge them both? Or would the power relays not be able to take it?
Also I want you to install some fold drives, because we find them quite useful in battle. If you dont have any I'll simply install them myself. If we can hammer these last issues out then start building and you will recive your 1st payment of 10 trillion.

Recharge what?

And replacing the FTL drives would be straightforward; our ships are designed with the consideration that most custumers will want to install FTL drives that conform to their fleet standards.

Construction will take aproximatly 2 RL months; we've already begun preliminary fabrication, and will be able to move into full swing construction once the details have been finalised.

I also want you to add a massive loading bay with a Transporter to move ground forces and dropships to the surface of planets. And other than that we should have no problems. Though a little more offenese would be nice, we can't relay on the Teraton Turrets alone.

The Empire of Azaha would like three Ashen Wind-Class Missile Cruisers.

I also want you to add a massive loading bay with a Transporter to move ground forces and dropships to the surface of planets. And other than that we should have no problems. Though a little more offenese would be nice, we can't relay on the Teraton Turrets alone.

We don't utalise transporter trechnology akin to yours, and what we have is not exportible; however, such a bay, along with provisions allowing you to easily install your own transporter, could be readily added.

As for offence, the ship posesses 125x 80 gigaton turrets, in addition to the 4x 25 teraton cannons and the twin spinal mounts; added to the impressive point defence, it's a rather well rounded armament.

The Empire of Azaha would like three Ashen Wind-Class Missile Cruisers.

That comes to $204 billion USD; once payment is confirmed, you will be able to pick your ships up in Earth orbit.

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ECF, you still have to confirm your order details.

Azaha too.

Begin the building as soon as possible. Once the Framework of the ship is complete you will recive your 1st shipment of 10 Trillion.

Begin the building as soon as possible. Once the Framework of the ship is complete you will recive your 1st shipment of 10 Trillion.

The term 'Framework' isn't really applicible in this case; the ship's hull - it's armour - forms the closest thing to a 'frame', with heavy internal bracings for support.

As the hull will be composed of massive 'cast' slabs of NES that are to be fused together, it won't be finished until late in the construction process to allow for the easy instalation of large prefabricated components, such as reactor and weapon assemblies.

As stands, your vessel should be finished around Febuary 15th, 2005, iRL 'Absoloute' Calander.

Due to the scale of this project, we will requior a minimum of $7 trillion USD per 'RL week' to finance ongoing construction, with the ballance to be paid any time prior to taking delivery of the vessel.

That comes to $204 billion USD; once payment is confirmed, you will be able to pick your ships up in Earth orbit.

Credits have been transfered and confirmed, have retrieved the ships

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You will revice 8 Trillion ( RL weekly )
I'd like to know how my ship is comming.

You will revice 8 Trillion ( RL weekly )
I'd like to know how my ship is comming.

On scedule; we'll still be doing parts manufature for a good while yet - sub-module and system assembly is still pretty far off.

Excent, Though when you get to the computer systems. I want you to use PPC-98 So we can run the LCARS computer OS on it.

Excent, Though when you get to the computer systems. I want you to use PPC-98 So we can run the LCARS computer OS on it.

We were planning on using what amounts to a quantum computer utalising arbitrary value-states and intigrated entanglment to enhance intraprocessor data transmission speeds. Expensive, but easily distributed and hightly redundent, as well as extreamly fast and posessing effectivly infitinte data storage capasity; it's most likly one of the better comuter systems out there.

It should be amply capible of emulating 'PPC-98' to spec, tho you would have to send us detailed system specs so that we can properly ascertain such and have emulation programs written to that effect.

Alternativly, you can send us production information for PPC-98, and we can install that.

PPC-98 is a type of Quantum Computer, it has 98000 Built in insurction sets for each sub processor and 3 trillion for each main processor. It's a powerful system, but probably not as powerful as what your telling me, however we are sending you the specs for it, prehaps that will help you to emulate it, we are also sending a copy of the LCARS OS, thanks.

PPC-98 is a type of Quantum Computer, it has 98000 Built in insurction sets for each sub processor and 3 trillion for each main processor. It's a powerful system, but probably not as powerful as what your telling me, however we are sending you the specs for it, prehaps that will help you to emulate it, we are also sending a copy of the LCARS OS, thanks.

R&D reports good progress; they're reporting that, basicly, the PPC-98 is somewhat more eligant and efficent in data procesing, but the system we're using makes up for it amply with raw power and vastly reduced data transfer times.

Thought you might be curious.

Thanks for the report, Hows LCARS gonna run oh dis thang!

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Hows it comming?
Your money is still comming every week.
One of my cargo ships got attacked by some pirates but we fixed that * cought nerve gas cough *

Hows it comming?
Your money is still comming every week.


Still puttering along on scedule.


One of my cargo ships got attacked by some pirates but we fixed that * cought nerve gas cough *


In the mean time, you might want to get that nerve gas leak looked at; sounds like you coughed up half a lung.

;) :P

I suggest your money is still comming in? I want a progress report, if its not to much trouble.

I suggest your money is still comming in? I want a progress report, if its not to much trouble.

Light Tier batteries - that's Point Defence - are mostly finished pre-assembly and starting initial system tests, IDD kinetic imparter coils for the spinal cannons are just about finished fabrication, manuevering systems are fabricated and in storage awaiting assembly, propulsive IDD coil anchorage manifolds are beginning assembly. Etc, etc.

There are thousand of things going on at any one time; we utalise massivly paralell contruction methods, half the ship's in varrious pipelines at this point.

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I do have a HUGE reserve. You money is still comming in ,

I do have an RP I will get invovled in and I need firepower.
I want 5 Fell Warden-Class Battle Dreadnaughts, and yes as you know i can pay for it. they are important, I need the firepower.

btw,
I went back and read my posts in this theard, I can't beleive I was such an moron............ But I actually did some reading snice then..lol.

and only now have my weapons even reached 40 Gigaton for main armerments. And the tornado actually has more......
But I also need to ask, How well does thing thing stand up to kentic energy?
And what exactly do you use to make the hull?

I do have a HUGE reserve. You money is still comming in ,

I do have an RP I will get invovled in and I need firepower.
I want 5 Fell Warden-Class Battle Dreadnaughts, and yes as you know i can pay for it. they are important, I need the firepower.


$6685 billion USD for the ships: unfortunatly, there aren't any ships of this type currently avalible, and each vessel takes 6 RL days to produce.

We currently have the faciliuties to produce 4 in paralell, however, and facilities for the 5th will be avalible shortly.

The first batch of 4 will be ready on the 12th of January, RL calander; the fifth ship on the 13th.


and only now have my weapons even reached 40 Gigaton for main armerments. And the tornado actually has more......
But I also need to ask, How well does thing thing stand up to kentic energy?
And what exactly do you use to make the hull?

The armour is rated in "RHA-equivilent protection value", or rolled homoginized (steel) armour: it is the standard way of measuring weapon VS armour performance, for both armour and weapon systems iRL.

The hull, and armour, are composed of Type 12 Nuclear-force Enhanced Silver, aka NES. Type 12 NES has been formulated to provide a protection value virtually identical to 50 times it's volume of RHA, hence armour ratings such as;

-40m Nuclear-force Enhanced Silver(NES), type 12; Aproximatly 2000m RHA-equivilent protection value.

NES itself is composed of pure silver atoms arranged in a semi-ridged crystaline structure; a SAPL construct added to the nucleus of each atom alters and reinforces electromagnetic and strong nuclear bonding forces, creating a mechanicly and thermally superrior material.



OOC:
Nuclear-force Enhanced Silver(NES) and Sub-Atomic Particle Lattice(SAPL) are original creations and the intillectual property of Kanuckistan and it's player. <Insert legal mumbojumbo here>

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I forget when can I expect this thing?

How much room is there for our fleets own weapons?
We want your weapons, of crouse but later on we might want to add our own.

I forget when can I expect this thing?


Around Febuary 15th.


How much room is there for our fleets own weapons?
We want your weapons, of crouse but later on we might want to add our own.

There is a fair around of room, but that's mostly either intended for storage - spare parts or cargo - or to accomidate structural flex; the ship is designed to flex somewhat during combat to absord, distribute, and despose of destructive energies, both resulting from combat or every day use. Accomidations for structural flex are typicly over-generous, however, although you'd still have to shoe-horn anything into those spaces - a good amound of volume to work with, but the dimentions are... courious.

Ok, I'm willing to pay up to 10 trillion more. If you can pull more power out of the weapons.

I'm sure your engineers can do it.
Basicly anything short of illegal is what I'm looking for.
And For another 1 trillion. I'd like some sort of defense agnist grav weapons.

And if its not a problem I'd like to send a few StarFleet captains to look over the plans and progress, and make a few suggestions.

Green Sun is putting up plans, not ships, for sale.

--Infantry weaponry--
GS Type IV Laser Gun: $1,000 each
Sargeants to train soldiers with all GS Guns: $3,000/each (For expenses only)
Somic Blaster (Anti-Aircraft/Anti-Tank): $3,000/each

--Space Naval plans--

GS Cruiser
Arms: 1 Large Laser Cannon, 450 HE AP Rockets
Engine: UziCorp Medium HyperJump 1034 Spacecraft Engine
AI: Custom, not standard
Plans cost: $30m

Medium GS Carrier
Arms: None
Engine: UziCorp Large HyperJump 2098 Spacecraft Engine
AI: Standard
Fighter Capacity: 140
Plans cost: $50m

Small GS Battleship
Arms: 1 Large Laser Cannon, 15 Laser Turrets, 500 HE AP Rockets
Engine: UziCorp Large HyperJump 5078 Spacecraft Engine
AI: Standard
Shields: Plasma
Plans cost: $1t (We can't just give away that large Plasma shielding!)

GS-07 Space Fighters
Arms: 1 Laser Gatling Gun, 4 Space Missiles
Engine: Very Small UziCorp HyperJump 3075 Fighter Engine
AI: None
Plans cost: $2m

--Planetside Naval plans--

GS Carrier
Arms: 4 50 AA guns
Engine: GS Nautical 6789 Engine
AI: None
Shields: Plasma
Plans cost: $150m

GS Battleship
Arms: 1 small Laser Cannon, 50 HE AP Rockets, 2 60mm Cannons
Engine: GS Nautical 4563 Engine
AI: Custom
Shields: Plasma
Plans Cost: $125m

GS Destroyers
Arms: 1 small Laser Cannon, 25 HE AP rockets, depth charges, torpedoes
Engine: GS Nautical Speedy 72503 Engine
AI: None
Shields: Light Plasma
Plans cost: $75m

GS Submarines
Arms: 1 Howitzer cannon, 1 50Cal AA gun, torpedoes
AI: Custom
Shields: None
Plans cost: Everyone has this damn sub!

Ok, I'm willing to pay up to 10 trillion more. If you can pull more power out of the weapons.

I'm sure your engineers can do it.
Basicly anything short of illegal is what I'm looking for.


Most of our facilities are extra-national; short of violating NDAs and similar with the Kanuckistani government, there's not a whole lot that we can do that would qualify as 'illegal'.

Increasing the weapon yeilds and refire would normally be straight forward, but construction is already well underway; we'd have to replace alot of the power grid, build new reactors, refit weapon systems and subsystems... it would probally not be worth it, financially; at this point it would reequior the equivilent to a fairly major overhaul, on a ship that isn't even finished, replacing alot of brand new hardware.

The systems we're utalising are emploied to their full potential, including a solid safty margine; you're already getting the best bang for your buck.

Had you made this request earlier, it would have been a simple matter of selecting more capible, more expensive components, but at this point, well, the damn thing's nearly half finished.



And For another 1 trillion. I'd like some sort of defense agnist grav weapons.


Unfortunatly, that would be illegal at this point; we're having absoloutly no luck in securing rights to sell existing such technologies to extranational entities.

We have a few new systems on the drawing board, but they're still in the conceptial stage.



And if its not a problem I'd like to send a few StarFleet captains to look over the plans and progress, and make a few suggestions.

Regretfully, that is most unlikly; our core shipbuilding facilities are part of the Kanuckistani High Gaurd Primary Fleet Yards complex, and it's exact location is considered a state secret; the 'gaurd is rather paranoid in matters of security.

Your personel would have to submit to an invasive telepathic scan, with any defences to such down, to get through Kanuckistani customs, anyway, and it's doubtful that you would permit military personel of rank to undergo such, as it would render any secrets they knew potentially comprimised.

Green Sun is putting up plans, not ships, for sale.


Please don't advertise in my storefront.

Most of our facilities are extra-national; short of violating NDAs and similar with the Kanuckistani government, there's not a whole lot that we can do that would qualify as 'illegal'.

Increasing the weapon yeilds and refire would normally be straight forward, but construction is already well underway; we'd have to replace alot of the power grid, build new reactors, refit weapon systems and subsystems... it would probally not be worth it, financially; at this point it would reequior the equivilent to a fairly major overhaul, on a ship that isn't even finished, replacing alot of brand new hardware.

The systems we're utalising are emploied to their full potential, including a solid safty margine; you're already getting the best bang for your buck.

Had you made this request earlier, it would have been a simple matter of selecting more capible, more expensive components, but at this point, well, the damn thing's nearly half finished.




Unfortunatly, that would be illegal at this point; we're having absoloutly no luck in securing rights to sell existing such technologies to extranational entities.

We have a few new systems on the drawing board, but they're still in the conceptial stage.




Regretfully, that is most unlikly; our core shipbuilding facilities are part of the Kanuckistani High Gaurd Primary Fleet Yards complex, and it's exact location is considered a state secret; the 'gaurd is rather paranoid in matters of security.

Your personel would have to submit to an invasive telepathic scan, with any defences to such down, to get through Kanuckistani customs, anyway, and it's doubtful that you would permit military personel of rank to undergo such, as it would render any secrets they knew potentially comprimised.
When I said " I want the best you can give me " I assumed that you WERE, oh well. Becuse there is more to come.

And for the future. Around the same date as the ship is done.

We will be replcaing our ENTIRE FLEET.

We are looking for a nation to build the new fleet.
As well to leceinse new technologys from.
You right now our number 1 on the list.

This would require several things,

1. An prememant Non Aggression pact.
2. An Loose Alliance mostly for trading,
3. Being able to lecenise cretain technologys so replacement parts can be built at home.
and several other issues,

Please give it some thought,

When I said " I want the best you can give me " I assumed that you WERE, oh well. Becuse there is more to come.


It is the best, for the price you set, after factoring in a decent profit margine(we are a corperation, afterall).


And for the future. Around the same date as the ship is done.

We will be replcaing our ENTIRE FLEET.

We are looking for a nation to build the new fleet.
As well to leceinse new technologys from.
You right now our number 1 on the list.

This would require several things,

1. An prememant Non Aggression pact.
2. An Loose Alliance mostly for trading,
3. Being able to lecenise cretain technologys so replacement parts can be built at home.
and several other issues,

Please give it some thought,

Please remember that we are a company; a military contractor. Uniphase Armouries Interversal does not represent the government of Kanuckistan.

We are effectivly, however, a quasi-sovergine entity, if you want to get technical.

Well, We can prove that we would never attack you, 1 we have no chance, 2 We are peaceful, most of the time.

If we could possibley open negstions with your goverment?

But I would like to further discuss a entire full fleded fleet.

Please don't advertise in my storefront.
Would it be alright if I set up a storefront on your storefront? I'll give you 5%.

Unfortunatly, that would be illegal at this point; we're having absoloutly no luck in securing rights to sell existing such technologies to extranational entities.

[OOC: Godammit!]

Well, We can prove that we would never attack you, 1 we have no chance, 2 We are peaceful, most of the time.

If we could possibley open negstions with your goverment?

But I would like to further discuss a entire full fleded fleet.



The Kanuckistani government would likly be receptive to an NAP, provided you avoided hostilities with her allies - presently only the other ESUS member states.

Lecenise cretain technologys so replacement parts can be built at domesticly would be a problem, from the perspectives of national security, corperate secrets, and basic practicality; you wouldn't be physicly able to produce anything incorperating SAPL, for example.

With more mundane components, however, it's assumed that you will be producing your own replacment parts, and NES and SAPL components typicly last for decades, sometimes centuries of heavy, continuous use. Barring accidents or combat damage, of course. Replacment parts shouldn't generally be much of an issue.


As for your fleet, well, just tell us what you want. Prehaps outlining your desired fleet structure and ship roles would be a good place to start.


Would it be alright if I set up a storefront on your storefront? I'll give you 5%.

Why? You first posted on the 11th page, so you'd be almost universally overlooked here. It would also serve to clutter my thread.

There is no real reason for you to set up shop here.

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OOC: Late, sorry for crap post.
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Well we want an all around fleet, sorta.

1st off I want a " Main Ship " a ship that is common, and has a few varietens, sort of like the excelsiors in star trek, ships that could do alot, multi purpose ships.

And before I say more, I want these built with BORG combat in mind,

And before I say more, I want these built with BORG combat in mind,

Could you elaborate on this?

To the Government of Kanuckistan; To be delivered via the Uniphase Armouries Interversal Corporation

From the Admiralty of the Rebellion:

We submit a proposal of a wargame to the Kanuckistani governing body(ies), to test Federal vessels in pseudo-combat against (a) Kanuckistani Battleplate(s).

This first civilized contact between out two nations could serve as a foundation upon which more formal relations can be built.

We hope to receive an answer from Kanuckistan in a timely fashion.

With great expectations,

The Grand Fleet of the Admiralty; Normandeicht

Could you elaborate on this?
It means theres a good chance I could be fighting borg in the near future.
And I'm sure you could think up somthing to stop stuff like Transporters and Auto Assiamlation Beams. And Cutting beams and such, borg ships are very poteant. And deadly if you dont know what your doing.
( everyone knows about the borg! )

Basicly we want to slowly Phase old the older Starfleet vessels and begin replacing them with new ships.



OOC:
I hate the boards, if you wish I could discuss it further on MSN or AIM, my AIM is East Federation
my msn is noonelikeshippos@hotmail.com

To: The Grand Fleet of the Admiralty, Normandeicht, The United Federation of Germanische Zustande

From: Department of the Exterrior, Kanuckistan


That you would choose a war game - something typicly conducted between trusted allies - as an opening for 'civilized contact' between nations whose last contact involved your declaration of was upon us, is both suspect and ironic.

That our inteligence indicates that you desire in depth information regaurding Battleplate capibilities - something which a wargame would give you ample opertunity to gather - only strengthens our concern.

In light of such, our answer at this time much be no.

Signed:
Bob McBob, Minister
Department of the Exterrior,
Kanuckistan

It means theres a good chance I could be fighting borg in the near future.
And I'm sure you could think up somthing to stop stuff like Transporters and Auto Assiamlation Beams. And Cutting beams and such, borg ships are very poteant. And deadly if you dont know what your doing.
( everyone knows about the borg! )

Basicly we want to slowly Phase old the older Starfleet vessels and begin replacing them with new ships.


Yes, we know of the borg, but we lack detailed information.

Trek transporters can be blocked with strong ECM; auto-assimilation beams sound like a nanite dispersion weapon - Kanuckistan does posess anti-nanite defences, but they're restricted; however, NES is utterly chemicly unreactive and so should be resistant to nanites, and attempted assimilation would, at the worst, trigger anti-reverse engineering precautions, leaving them with a useless slag-heap or an expanding cloud of mono-atomic dust.

Cutting beams.. you'd have to be more specific; that says nothing about the nature of the weapon.

At the least, they shouldn't be able to effectivly adapt to our weaponry; kinetic energy doesn't have a frequency, afterall.



OOC:
I hate the boards, if you wish I could discuss it further on MSN or AIM, my AIM is East Federation
my msn is noonelikeshippos@hotmail.com

OOC:
IM programs don't seem to agree with my computer for some reason; I have none.

Yes, we know of the borg, but we lack detailed information.

Trek transporters can be blocked with strong ECM; auto-assimilation beams sound like a nanite dispersion weapon - Kanuckistan does posess anti-nanite defences, but they're restricted; however, NES is utterly chemicly unreactive and so should be resistant to nanites, and attempted assimilation would, at the worst, trigger anti-reverse engineering precautions, leaving them with a useless slag-heap or an expanding cloud of mono-atomic dust.

Cutting beams.. you'd have to be more specific; that says nothing about the nature of the weapon.

At the least, they shouldn't be able to effectivly adapt to our weaponry; kinetic energy doesn't have a frequency, afterall.




OOC:
IM programs don't seem to agree with my computer for some reason; I have none.


Borg transporters are not like the Federation Transporters, I forget exactly how they work, but it has somthing to do with quantum tunneling.

Maybe this can explain.
Borg starships sre known to have the ability to generate cutting beams of great power, strong enough to slice sections of a starship, or even a planet, open with great precision. In conjunction with the Borg tractor beam, their cutting beams are used to "scoop" pieces of ships or cities for assimilation by Borg drones and collectives. (TNG:"Q Who?;" TNG:"The Best of Both Worlds, Part I and Part II).



Even though they are ST tech, they still have a good bit of power to them.
http://www.memory-alpha.org/en/upload/thumb/d/df/200px-BorgCuttingBeam-142.jpg

I've had problems sheilding aganist those things in the past.

What we need to do is start assesing my current fleet.
I want the new one to be able to surpass it at least by 3 times.

OOC:
if you have computer problems, ask me, I know to much about computers anyway......

That's still to vauge to develop any kind of specific counter to the technology itself, although borg boarding could be easily delt with by incorperating anti-intruder funtionality into the the artifical gravity systems. We'd need more detailed information to develop something like a transporter jammer.

Other than that, it apears that the best tactic avalible would be the tried and true brute force aproach

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That's still to vauge to develop any kind of specific counter to the technology itself, although borg boarding could be easily delt with by incorperating anti-intruder funtionality into the the artifical gravity systems. We'd need more detailed information to develop something like a transporter jammer.

Other than that, it apears that the best tactic avalible would be the tried and true brute force aproach
OOC: I'm about to leave and dont know if I'll be on tonight, so sorry for the shit post.
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Our Current fleet is verstile in the senes that each ship can do anything you want it to.

They can do cargo runs, combat missions, emergancy evac, ect.

( if you've ever seen star trek, you've seen the NCC 2000, I want a class like that, only ALOT more powerful.)

Now I know I am a trekkie, You'll find the following in my nation.

http://www.st-intelligence.com/ship_database/dom/st_dom.php

I need a replacement for at least 2/3 of those classes of ships.

OOC: I'm about to leave and dont know if I'll be on tonight, so sorry for the shit post.
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Our Current fleet is verstile in the senes that each ship can do anything you want it to.

They can do cargo runs, combat missions, emergancy evac, ect.

( if you've ever seen star trek, you've seen the NCC 2000, I want a class like that, only ALOT more powerful.)

Now I know I am a trekkie, You'll find the following in my nation.

http://www.st-intelligence.com/ship_database/dom/st_dom.php

I need a replacement for at least 2/3 of those classes of ships.



NCC 2000? You mean the old Excelsior? I had to google that; please don't assume a casual fan knows every bit of trivia you've come across - it's anoying.

And please compose a list of requiored roles, rather than linking to a page with a couple dozen ships, from several generations, with widly overlapping roles, and asking me to design replacments for 2/3rds of them with only vauge data.

Sorry About that.

I'll compile a list of my fleet, I'll get it back to you by tomarrow, if I can.

Kanuckistan,
After extremely exstensive testing of the Meat Shield class ships, we have decided to order 5 more of the ships. We will pay in advance, as we already know you to be a trustworthy supplier.

You should recieve the cash in 10 to 15 days. A single military troops transport shall carry the cash.

Kanuckistan,
After extremely exstensive testing of the Meat Shield class ships, we have decided to order 5 more of the ships. We will pay in advance, as we already know you to be a trustworthy supplier.

You should recieve the cash in 10 to 15 days. A single military troops transport shall carry the cash.

Unfortunatly, NES supplies are fairly low at the moment, the Divinity-class ordered by the ECF having taken a large bite out of our material reserves; as such, they will take slightly longer to produce than usual.

At 1.25 trillion each - we assume you want the upgraded version - it's 6.25 trillion USD for the batch.

We can manage one per 1.5 RL days, or 18 IC months, for a total run time of 7.5 RL days or 90 IC months(7y6m).

You can take delivery any time after completion once full payment has been made for a given unit(s).

OOC:
Did you mean 10-15 IC or RL days?

[OOC: IC Days]

[OOC: IC Days]

OOC:
I figured as much from the context, but many folks use the term 'days' interchangibly with IC years, so I figured it best to clarify.

By the way, have you used the vessels in RP yet?

OOC: Sorry but my computer cought on fire, So I need to try to recover my lists.

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Can I expect my ships, the 12km One and the other Dreadnoughts I ordered in mid febuary?


The Fleet order has been scaped for the time being, but if it comes back to congress your 1st on the list.

Can I expect my ships, the 12km One and the other Dreadnoughts I ordered in mid febuary?


The 5 Fell Wardens you ordered on January 6th? The first batch of 4 was ready on the 12th of January, iRL 'Absoloute' calander; the fifth ship on the 13th.

You can pick them up whenever you make payment of $6685 billion USD.



Your Pyric Divinity-Class Imperium Evicerator is also scheduled for completion around Febuary 15th, 2005, iRL 'Absoloute' Calander.

Would it be possible to order ships for the purpose of analyzation of the technology and construction materials/methods?

The 5 Fell Wardens you ordered on January 6th? The first batch of 4 was ready on the 12th of January, iRL 'Absoloute' calander; the fifth ship on the 13th.

You can pick them up whenever you make payment of $6685 billion USD.



Your Pyric Divinity-Class Imperium Evicerator is also scheduled for completion around Febuary 15th, 2005, iRL 'Absoloute' Calander.

If you have read the thread you may think I could not pay for it.

But I have money set aside just for these ships.

Your Payment will be sent as soon as possible, in fact it's on it's way now.

Now I want another custom Job, If you can desing a ship that suits the need, you can epexct to get an order of at least 80.

We need an Artillery Ship, It needs to have massivey powerful long range weapons, Very Very very very long ranaged weapons.

ANd it needs to be well sheilded.

It would be a planet defense killer.

Planet Defense Killer? Sounds more like a planetary defense in itself

I would like 1 ship of similar construct, though smaller, with no engines, and the main weapon does not have to be as powerful. Other weapons for closer-in defense we can provide. We would like you to install the FTL drives we send you. The number of our drives required will depend on the size

Would it be possible to order ships for the purpose of analyzation of the technology and construction materials/methods?

You can order them, but most Kanuckistani export technology is requiored by law to conform to design requiorments rendering it nigh-impossible to reverse engineer. And then there are the anti-tamper systems intended to 'explosivly' discourage such efforts.

And the fact that attempting to aquior Kanuckistani technology without authorization is considered an act of war.


So, yes, you could order those ships, but if you tried what you sugest, you'd be lucky if you got away with the vessels only being reduced to useless heaps of slag, break even karmicly if they and everything in proximity were reduced to an expanding cloud of mono-atomic plasma, or, if you managed the impossible, find yourselves with a couple of really pissed off Battleplates to deal with.

But, if you're still interested, we're perfectly willing to help you throw your money away.





If you have read the thread you may think I could not pay for it.

But I have money set aside just for these ships.

Your Payment will be sent as soon as possible, in fact it's on it's way now.

Now I want another custom Job, If you can desing a ship that suits the need, you can epexct to get an order of at least 80.

We need an Artillery Ship, It needs to have massivey powerful long range weapons, Very Very very very long ranaged weapons.

ANd it needs to be well sheilded.

It would be a planet defense killer.


Can you aproximatly specify desired range, weapon type, yeild, and rate of fire? As well as any secondary considerations such as point defence or secondary armament, drive specs, armour, etc?





Planet Defense Killer? Sounds more like a planetary defense in itself

I would like 1 ship of similar construct, though smaller, with no engines, and the main weapon does not have to be as powerful. Other weapons for closer-in defense we can provide. We would like you to install the FTL drives we send you. The number of our drives required will depend on the size

It's a new ship design request; it's scarcly even on the drawing board yet. I'd say it's a little premature to order one.

Besides, depending on the final result, you may not even be able to afford one.

OOC: Is it possible to " borg proof " my 12km ship? Because I may have to deal with some, It would just be a matter of adding a few things, nothing major.
And as for my own flagship, I am thinking about replacing that to.

But we can talk later, instead of a balanced ship, I want the most fuck off sized, most power thing you can build. But we would talk after my new ships are done.


Btw, Can you tell me what a CryoAtomic Lased Particle Beam Pulse Cannon is?

And I need alot of anti borg stuff.

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Our payments have been made, where and when can we pick up our Dreadnoughts?

OOC: Is it possible to " borg proof " my 12km ship? Because I may have to deal with some, It would just be a matter of adding a few things, nothing major.
And as for my own flagship, I am thinking about replacing that to.

But we can talk later, instead of a balanced ship, I want the most fuck off sized, most power thing you can build. But we would talk after my new ships are done.

And I need alot of anti borg stuff.



OOC:
I can add anti-borg equipment you provide, but I need specifics to design anything new.



Btw, Can you tell me what a CryoAtomic Lased Particle Beam Pulse Cannon is?


OOC:
Sure. This is, however, strictly OOC information, and as an original creation, also my intilectual property. No copying or IC use of this info. *looks at GZ*

Basicly, when matter is cooled to a temp stupidly close to absoloute zero, particles start to take on wave-like properties, allowing them to be 'lased' into a coherent, laser-like beam. But it ain't carrying signifigant KE at this point, and running it through a normal partical accellerator would inherently induce minor heating as well as skewing beam focus.

What we do, instead, is place specificly designed flash-discharge inertial direct-drive coils around the prefire chamber's exit.

The prefire chamber is filled with super-cooled particle-wave ammunition mass for a shot, and therein lased while the IDD coil capasitors are charged and the coils calibrated to impart the specific KE upon each particle.

When ready, the prefire chamber's end is opened and the lased mass exits to be imparted with massive kinetic energies, resulting in a kinetic particle beam weapon with abnormally good focus and, thus, a proportionatly greater effective range. It's also an effectivly lightspeed weapon, reducing the difficultity inherent in hitting targets at range.

Now, extreamly minor inter-beam particle interactions usually result in minor heating and delasing, but neutrally charged particles are standard and so at this point the detrimental effect upon beam coherency is minimal. The IDD coils can be calibrated to tollerances that would allow the beam to maintain it's lased particle-wave state, but it's normally not worth the effort.

Being a high-intensity, short-duration pulsed beam weapon(usually a fraction of a second), 'Beam Pulse Cannon' is used to avoid confusion with long-duration beam weapons or 'bolt'-type weapons like pulse-phasers.




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Our payments have been made, where and when can we pick up our Dreadnoughts?

IC:
You can pick them up from Earth orbit at your leasure.

OOC:
I can add anti-borg equipment you provide, but I need specifics to design anything new.




OOC:
Sure. This is, however, strictly OOC information, and as an original creation, also my intilectual property. No copying or IC use of this info. *looks at GZ*

Basicly, when matter is cooled to a temp stupidly close to absoloute zero, particles start to take on wave-like properties, allowing them to be 'lased' into a coherent, laser-like beam. But it ain't carrying signifigant KE at this point, and running it through a normal partical accellerator would inherently induce minor heating as well as skewing beam focus.

What we do, instead, is place specificly designed flash-discharge inertial direct-drive coils around the prefire chamber's exit.

The prefire chamber is filled with super-cooled particle-wave ammunition mass for a shot, and therein lased while the IDD coil capasitors are charged and the coils calibrated to impart the specific KE upon each particle.

When ready, the prefire chamber's end is opened and the lased mass exits to be imparted with massive kinetic energies, resulting in a kinetic particle beam weapon with abnormally good focus and, thus, a proportionatly greater effective range. It's also an effectivly lightspeed weapon, reducing the difficultity inherent in hitting targets at range.

Now, extreamly minor inter-beam particle interactions usually result in minor heating and delasing, but neutrally charged particles are standard and so at this point the detrimental effect upon beam coherency is minimal. The IDD coils can be calibrated to tollerances that would allow the beam to maintain it's lased particle-wave state, but it's normally not worth the effort.

Being a high-intensity, short-duration pulsed beam weapon(usually a fraction of a second), 'Beam Pulse Cannon' is used to avoid confusion with long-duration beam weapons or 'bolt'-type weapons like pulse-phasers.





IC:
You can pick them up from Earth orbit at your leasure.


OOC: Now I'm confused, It's a beam weapon that has kentic force behind it?

But it also has energy? Like a laser or phaser? ( that sounds funny ) but it also has kentic force?
And wouldn't that mean the borg can't adpadt to it? You cant' adapt to kentic force.

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We dont actually have any ships near Earth, expect a Smaller Starship to bring some skeleton crews to crew the ships.

And our other ships we ordered from you have been working out quite nicely.

Refitting the ships with our own FTL drive proved alot less of a pain in the ass then we thought it would.

Though not used in combat, we have done a combat simulation.

A Zenith Class vs a Tornado Class heavy battle cruiser= Xenith Victory, by a large margin.

This is good for you, it has proven to us that your ships are more than capable, and we can trust that they will performe well in combat.

And it is also good for Starfleet, its time they moved some ass, and built a decent ship.

We do hope to be able to use them in combat.

OOC: Now I'm confused, It's a beam weapon that has kentic force behind it?

But it also has energy? Like a laser or phaser? ( that sounds funny ) but it also has kentic force?
And wouldn't that mean the borg can't adpadt to it? You cant' adapt to kentic force.



OOC:
They're entirly kinetic energy weapons; no laser(thermal) or phaser-esque aspect. Kinetic 'force' is kinetic energy.

Most particle beam weapons do the same 'type' of damage.

Tho they would have thermal and other radiative energy secondary effects associated with high-speed KE weapons; relativistic impacts tend to result in something not so different from a nuclear-type event.

In that case, the UFGZ is very interested in purchasing your largest, most expensive vessel, which I believe is the Fell-Warden class Battledreadnought.

This comes to 1337 Billion. Upon confirmation of order, the money will be wired.

In that case, the UFGZ is very interested in purchasing your largest, most expensive vessel, which I believe is the Fell-Warden class Battledreadnought.

This comes to 1337 Billion. Upon confirmation of order, the money will be wired.


Okie Dokie; it'll be ready on the 30th of January, iRL. Please make payment in the mean time.

OOC:
And you'll have to RP any attempt to reverse engineer anything from it, with myself determining the results. I have active measures in place to prevent such - more so than you know - so the ball's still in my court in that regaurd.

If you attempt to reverse engineer it and cut me out of the loop, I'll declare godmod, and the ship will have never existed.

If that's not acceptible, you can cancel the order.

OOC:

Those terms are perfectly acceptable. Thank you.

Oh, and a sidenote:

I am not planning on reverse engineering anything. I plan only on studying your technology, and finding weaknesses in it. However, there may be some dissasembly, etc, which I will alert you to via an RP.

Oh, and a sidenote:

I am not planning on reverse engineering anything. I plan only on studying your technology, and finding weaknesses in it. However, there may be some dissasembly, etc, which I will alert you to via an RP.


OOCly, you DO realize that any major weaknesses you find in it will not translate over to Kanuckistan's main ships, right? After all, the ships he exports use fundamentally weaker and less effective technology than the Kanuckistani battleplates or superfortresses. And they don't have the most important part, the inversion field. :)

Yes, but the other people that have your export ships wil have the same weaknesses that he discovers.

And don't bothewr with my last order. I most likely couldn't afford it anyway.

OOC: My dear CF, I know that. No matter how much you want to thinkI am, I am not stupid. However, if I analyze the technologies, I doubt that Kanuckistan will use fundamentally differing machinations. So, no matter what I learn, that information gleaned would still serve a strategic purpose.

OOC: My dear CF, I know that. No matter how much you want to thinkI am, I am not stupid. However, if I analyze the technologies, I doubt that Kanuckistan will use fundamentally differing machinations. So, no matter what I learn, that information gleaned would still serve a strategic purpose.

Silly, I don't think you're stupid. What I was trying to say is that the main parts of any of Kanuckistan's ships (the inversion field, gravy-guns, and similar goodies) are not present on any of his export ships, and those are main the things that anyone who fights Kanuckistan has to worry about. Without those special devices, a battleplate turns into what is essientially your average 13 kilometer long triangle.

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Ha ha! I finally have the length of the vessel! Thus, using various trigonometric and geometric formulas, I can find the lengths of the sides, etc.... This is most wonderful! I thank you, CF.

Ha ha! I finally have the length of the vessel! Thus, using various trigonometric and geometric formulas, I can find the lengths of the sides, etc.... This is most wonderful! I thank you, CF.

Curses; he has ascertained the super-secret information only spoken of every time a battleplate has been deployed. It is only a mater of time until my ultimate weakness of revealed.

I'm looking for protection from temporal technology.

Well, no one would tell me the length, and I searched the thread where I sorta fought you... but I couldn't find anything.

Note: For protection from Temporal tech, you'll need your own temporal tech, or reaaaaaally advanced quantum/gravitational tech.

I'm looking for protection from temporal technology.

See the ESUS boards: I've addressed your request in my thread there.



Well, no one would tell me the length, and I searched the thread where I sorta fought you... but I couldn't find anything.

Note: For protection from Temporal tech, you'll need your own temporal tech, or reaaaaaally advanced quantum/gravitational tech.

Rest assured that the task is well within my means.

We will take 2 Athens-Class Combat Carrier. Just to carry supplies from our conlonies back to our homeplanet.

$50 bil

We will take 2 Athens-Class Combat Carrier. Just to carry supplies from our conlonies back to our homeplanet.

$50 bil


The vessels have been prepared from existing stocks; you can pick them up in Earth orbit once you've made payment.

bump

GZ, your ship is ready; you can pick it up in Earth orbit at your leasure.

OOC:
And I'd like atleast a breif summary of what you'll be doing with it, possibly in a new thread; I have something special in mind.

bump

Communique to Uniphase Armories Interversal:

The United Federation of Germanische Zustande has no knowledge of the location of this "Earth". It does, however, know of this world via mythology, as being the world of rise of the Ancestors and Ancients both.

Its location has remained a great mystery to our people, and your knowledge of its location would be highly prized. If coordinates would be provided, our joy would be boundless. We shall then send numerous vessels, one of which shall presume control of our new vessel.

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OOC:

I plan to study construction patterns, hull design, alloys used in construction, operation and capacities of computer systems, design of said systems, layout of the vessel, dissection/study of propulsion means, etc.

I will start a research thread eventually, most likely over the summer, which is still along way off. This period is when I will likely also be RPing my Civil war, and numerous other plans of mine.

Well, Payments should almost be done now, We can pay you the Remaining Sum,
Because it's only 10 days Until The Big Day!

Communique to Uniphase Armories Interversal:

The United Federation of Germanische Zustande has no knowledge of the location of this "Earth". It does, however, know of this world via mythology, as being the world of rise of the Ancestors and Ancients both.

Its location has remained a great mystery to our people, and your knowledge of its location would be highly prized. If coordinates would be provided, our joy would be boundless. We shall then send numerous vessels, one of which shall presume control of our new vessel.


Earth, third planet of the Sol System, is the recognised homeworld of hunamity and atleast several other sentient species.

It is also home to many of the galaxy's largest economic and military powers; as such, most merchant ships passing through your space would probally have it logged in their navigational databases.


Rather than simply hand you co'ordinates, we will instead leave you to ask a passing freighter captain for directions to what amounts to the heart of the galaxy.





OOC:

I plan to study construction patterns, hull design, alloys used in construction, operation and capacities of computer systems, design of said systems, layout of the vessel, dissection/study of propulsion means, etc.

I will start a research thread eventually, most likely over the summer, which is still along way off. This period is when I will likely also be RPing my Civil war, and numerous other plans of mine.

OOC:
Oh, well, I was just going to blow it up anyway once you had it back in your space - prefferibly near something large and valuble.

I was planning to lead you on in hopes of nuking something juicy, then ICly blaim your personel for tripping the anti-tamper systems when in fact UAI had remote-detonated the oversized scuttling charges at max yeild - they were rather anoyed with your intentions, and the gall of stating them outright.

That, and I was considering leaving a somewhat insidious foxgirl polymorphic agent on board, for anyone why wasn't still onboard when it went up.


Well, Payments should almost be done now, We can pay you the Remaining Sum,
Because it's only 10 days Until The Big Day!

OOC:
Honostly I haven't been keeping track.

Something of a pitty that it's almost done, however; UAI's quarterly profits were rather nice for the duration. :D

The nation of forkilania wishes to purchase 4 of your dreadnauts at a price of
5348 billion dollars

thx
Don Kim Emporer of Forkilania
:mad: :sniper: :rolleyes: :) :fluffle: :D :eek: :( :confused: :gundge:

Earth, third planet of the Sol System, is the recognised homeworld of hunamity and atleast several other sentient species.

It is also home to many of the galaxy's largest economic and military powers; as such, most merchant ships passing through your space would probally have it logged in their navigational databases.


Rather than simply hand you co'ordinates, we will instead leave you to ask a passing freighter captain for directions to what amounts to the heart of the galaxy.






OOC:
Oh, well, I was just going to blow it up anyway once you had it back in your space - prefferibly near something large and valuble.

I was planning to lead you on in hopes of nuking something juicy, then ICly blaim your personel for tripping the anti-tamper systems when in fact UAI had remote-detonated the oversized scuttling charges at max yeild - they were rather anoyed with your intentions, and the gall of stating them outright.

That, and I was considering leaving a somewhat insidious foxgirl polymorphic agent on board, for anyone why wasn't still onboard when it went up.




OOC:
Honostly I haven't been keeping track.

Something of a pitty that it's almost done, however; UAI's quarterly profits were rather nice for the duration. :D

Well, 7 Trillion a week, your profits might just go up a wee bit!

To Uniphase Armories Interversal:

The UFGZ does not allow merchant vessels through our territory. The only trade vessels are those of our Allies, which are not due for another few weeks yet. Please wire the coordinates to us immediately to facilitate claim of our vessel.

We wish to purchase a total of 7 Mallice 3c Thermonuclear Warheads at a cost of
49 million dollars, the money will be wired upon your response

The nation of forkilania wishes to purchase 4 of your dreadnauts at a price of
5348 billion dollars

thx
Don Kim Emporer of Forkilania


Your order of 4x Fell Warden-Class Battle Dreadnaught will be ready on Febuary 15th, 2005, iRL Calander. Payment may be made any time between now and pickup.

We do, however, recomend that you start saving (http://nseconomy.thirdgeek.com/nseconomy.php?nation=Forkilania).

OOC:
Wow; my annual government waste is greater than your Gross Regional Product.


We wish to purchase a total of 7 Mallice 3c Thermonuclear Warheads at a cost of
49 million dollars, the money will be wired upon your response

Your order of 7x Mallice 3c Thermonuclear Warhead w/ Missile will be ready on Now. Payment may be made any time between now and pickup.


To Uniphase Armories Interversal:

The UFGZ does not allow merchant vessels through our territory. The only trade vessels are those of our Allies, which are not due for another few weeks yet. Please wire the coordinates to us immediately to facilitate claim of our vessel.

Sol System can be found on This Map (http://www.anzwers.org/free/universe/milkyway.html), labled 'Sun'.

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Does the Representative of the UFGZ detect a note of condescension in the UAI's voice, or rather, writing?

Does the Representative of the UFGZ detect a note of condescension in the UAI's voice, or rather, writing?

No, the condescension was yeilded when you first asked where Sol was; the later reply was more of a mild exasperation.

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Do you also sell pie? I like pie...

Do you also sell pie? I like pie...

No, and we'd rather not deal in Spam, either, which you also seem fond of.

Only One More Day!

Although your storefront doesn't make mention of them, I'm curious to whether the Sternreich can purchase from you, Kanukcistan, a battleplate for system defense purposes. We are not asking for one of your frontline models, but if you have any old or decomissioned ones lying around, we're willing to pay for it being moved to our homesystem and being converted into a immobile weapons platform.

If you are unwilling to sell us a full-on battleplate, can we purchase one of its smaller derivitives?

Although your storefront doesn't make mention of them, I'm curious to whether the Sternreich can purchase from you, Kanukcistan, a battleplate for system defense purposes. We are not asking for one of your frontline models, but if you have any old or decomissioned ones lying around, we're willing to pay for it being moved to our homesystem and being converted into a immobile weapons platform.

If you are unwilling to sell us a full-on battleplate, can we purchase one of its smaller derivitives?


Battleplates, and their smaller deritives, Superfortresses, have always been upgraded over the centuries; they have never been decomissioned.

They also incorperate highly classified technologies at a great meny levels, which make reproduction or resale impossible.

If you are interested in purchasing a custum design, however, we should be able to accommodate

Battleplates, and their smaller deritives, Superfortresses, have always been upgraded over the centuries; they have never been decomissioned.

They also incorperate highly classified technologies at a great meny levels, which make reproduction or resale impossible.

If you are interested in purchasing a custum design, however, we should be able to accommodate

Hmm. We have several complete battlefleets drifting around in mothball systems, and seems strange that nobody else seems to follow the practice.

What we want essentially is a non-mobile weapons station that can also serve as our Home Fleet headquarters, with docking and support facilities for our smaller vessels (and possibly larger, we aren't sure how big you make them). From the original battleplate there are three things we specifically want:
1) The FTLi devices, which can be scaled down. At this time our home system has no such defenses, making this vital. However we would also like to be able to turn it on and off at will, so as to allow shipping.

2) The shielding that makes battleplates nigh-on invulnerable to conventional arms.

3) Battleplate-grade weapons, though this is negotiable. If you are unwilling to part with these particular techs, we can supply our own.

We would like to know how much technology from these categories you are willing to sell, and if you might construct the actual station (with Skeelzanian input, racial dimensions require some changes to most designs).

Hmm. We have several complete battlefleets drifting around in mothball systems, and seems strange that nobody else seems to follow the practice.


Dew to their cost and build time, it's cheaper and more effective to cycle the limited number of existing craft in for routine upgrade and overhaul.


What we want essentially is a non-mobile weapons station that can also serve as our Home Fleet headquarters, with docking and support facilities for our smaller vessels (and possibly larger, we aren't sure how big you make them). From the original battleplate there are three things we specifically want:
1) The FTLi devices, which can be scaled down. At this time our home system has no such defenses, making this vital. However we would also like to be able to turn it on and off at will, so as to allow shipping.

2) The shielding that makes battleplates nigh-on invulnerable to conventional arms.

3) Battleplate-grade weapons, though this is negotiable. If you are unwilling to part with these particular techs, we can supply our own.

We would like to know how much technology from these categories you are willing to sell, and if you might construct the actual station (with Skeelzanian input, racial dimensions require some changes to most designs).

1) There are several new technologies in this regaurd under development; added to the fact that you are an ESUS member and ally, we should be able to secure authorization to incorperate most of those FTLi into a craft.

2) If you speak of the vaunted Inversion Feild, this technology is one of the most highly classified that you'd know about. Standing Barrier Feilds - the 'plate's more conventional bubble sheilds - could be sold.

These is a chance that the older, gravitic-based inversion feild technology could be utalised, but that isn't impenitrible to a number of weapon-types.

3) Rapid-fire missile launchers, cryo-atomic wave-particle pulsed beam cannons, and gravy guns.

The first is easy, the second will cost you through the nose for the heavier guns(exportible versions of them and reactors large enough to power 'em get disproportionatly expensive at this scale), and the last is doible, but would only have a few thousand kilometer range.

Dew to their cost and build time, it's cheaper and more effective to cycle the limited number of existing craft in for routine upgrade and overhaul.



1) There are several new technologies in this regaurd under development; added to the fact that you are an ESUS member and ally, we should be able to secure authorization to incorperate most of those FTLi into a craft.

2) If you speak of the vaunted Inversion Feild, this technology is one of the most highly classified that you'd know about. Standing Barrier Feilds - the 'plate's more conventional bubble sheilds - could be sold.

These is a chance that the older, gravitic-based inversion feild technology could be utalised, but that isn't impenitrible to a number of weapon-types.

3) Rapid-fire missile launchers, cryo-atomic wave-particle pulsed beam cannons, and gravy guns.

The first is easy, the second will cost you through the nose for the heavier guns(exportible versions of them and reactors large enough to power 'em get disproportionatly expensive at this scale), and the last is doible, but would only have a few thousand kilometer range.

Excellent regarding point one, the entire galaxy is aware of the superiority of Kanuckistan interdictors. As for shields, if we are unable to aquire your most advanced design we will gladly settle for the lesser. Perhaps we can incorporate our endor armor and hard shields into the design, and thus make up for the bubble-shield's shortcomings.

Weapons, weapons... Exactly how much are you thinking price-wise for your CAWPPB guns? We aren't sure how powerful such a device is, and if its too expensive we will incorporate our own weapon technology in place of it. Your gravy guns sound fine, Skeelzanian weaon range is typically measured in kilometers as we lack mor sophisitcated targeting computers, relying more on eyesight.

Weapons:
For a dozen rapid-refire Planet-Killer grade cryo-atomic particle-wave pulsed beam cannons aproaching those on a Battleplate? Probally somewhere around 4 or 5 hundred trillion; we could probally cut that in half with cheaper, more efficent designs, but those could theoreticly be reverse-enginered and thus we wouldn't be allowed to export them to you.


Sheilds:
There is nothing lacking in Standing Barrier Feilds; if it travels through 3-space, it will have to batter through them - it creates a unified barrier that treats any indound energy the same. Reality-altering and gravity weapons can get through, but they's true of most sheilds - we may even be able to make a gravitic ship-feild avalible for the ship.

The gravitic 'inversion' feild would stand in place of the Reality Inversion Feild on a proper battleplate, providing a 90 degree arc of invulnerability against most conventional weapons.

Weapons:
For a dozen rapid-refire Planet-Killer grade cryo-atomic particle-wave pulsed beam cannons aproaching those on a Battleplate? Probally somewhere around 4 or 5 hundred trillion; we could probally cut that in half with cheaper, more efficent designs, but those could theoreticly be reverse-enginered and thus we wouldn't be allowed to export them to you.


Sheilds:
There is nothing lacking in Standing Barrier Feilds; if it travels through 3-space, it will have to batter through them - it creates a unified barrier that treats any indound energy the same. Reality-altering and gravity weapons can get through, but they's true of most sheilds - we may even be able to make a gravitic ship-feild avalible for the ship.

The gravitic 'inversion' feild would stand in place of the Reality Inversion Feild on a proper battleplate, providing a 90 degree arc of invulnerability against most conventional weapons.

We'll be leaving the particle-wave cannons off then. I trust that we can use the vacated space for a higher number of conventional weapons. It's not like we need planet-killers on a defense platform anyway.

Now, this 90 degree GIF arc, is it horizontal, verticle, or some in other relationship to the vessel that we're missing? As this would be a immobile station, we would prefer full coverage.

We'll be leaving the particle-wave cannons off then. I trust that we can use the vacated space for a higher number of conventional weapons. It's not like we need planet-killers on a defense platform anyway.


They was only for the superheavies; would you wish to employ smaller weapons for the intermediate and point-defence batteries, or utalise your own weaponry for that too?

The partical beam cannons are conventional ordinance; it's mainly the scale of the superheavies which makes them so potent.

Now, this 90 degree GIF arc, is it horizontal, verticle, or some in other relationship to the vessel that we're missing? As this would be a immobile station, we would prefer full coverage.

It is steerible, such that it can be rapidly re-oriented to sheild the arc of greatest threat - energy weapons could also be fired out through it, but missiles would be destroyed by the gravitic sheer.

They was only for the superheavies; would you wish to employ smaller weapons for the intermediate and point-defence batteries, or utalise your own weaponry for that too?

The partical beam cannons are conventional ordinance; it's mainly the scale of the superheavies which makes them so potent.



It is steerible, such that it can be rapidly re-oriented to sheild the arc of greatest threat - energy weapons could also be fired out through it, but missiles would be destroyed by the gravitic sheer.

The super-heavies are prohibitedly expensive, several times our GDP infact. If the smaller weapons do not carry such a high price, they can remain. Regarding actual weapon space, I assume the super-heavies are much larger then the intermediate and PD batteries, and with their removal we will have room to install Skeelzanian heavy weapons (lance and railgun turrets mostly, unless the latter is effected by the grav-shields) in much higher numbers.

Are you sure energy weapons can be fired out through the shield? Even light beams are effected by gravity, unless its a one-way shield.

The super-heavies are prohibitedly expensive, several times our GDP infact. If the smaller weapons do not carry such a high price, they can remain. Regarding actual weapon space, I assume the super-heavies are much larger then the intermediate and PD batteries, and with their removal we will have room to install Skeelzanian heavy weapons (lance and railgun turrets mostly, unless the latter is effected by the grav-shields) in much higher numbers.

Are you sure energy weapons can be fired out through the shield? Even light beams are effected by gravity, unless its a one-way shield.

60-80 trillion is the estimate for intermediate and point defence batteries, 750 and 3000 respective, including targeting systems and focusing aperatus' for a 5 lightsecond, or 1.5 million kilometer, effective range.

As for firing out, feild geometry is such that outgoing energy weapons would be 'recompiled' near perfectly; railgun projectiles would likly be reduced to monoatomic dust or plasma, if not less - how coherent it would remain would depend on the projectile's composition. So, it's probally a bad idea, but workible to some degree with trial and error.

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