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Communist Missisipi will DEVOUR the world

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Grunge-France
03-08-2004, 00:09
Since a long time ago, it has been a government openly hostile against blacks and jews, against left-wing government and communists and against centre-right governments. A government that uses terrorist tactices against its enemies, being them foreign o national. A government that has violated liberties and human dignity, using a fanatical extremist christian zeal, a zeal that seeks for the white supremacy and the supremacy of its nation over the others.

Communist Missisipi has commited offenses against many nations: Capitalist nations, Communist nations, there is no difference and he has openly or in a secretive way attacked both kinds of nations, for all it wants is grow in power and conduct its plans of supremacy over all of us.

We cannot allow this to continue. We must draw our line and declare that we ARE NOT hostages of the crazy supremacy dessires of a fascist nation such as Communist Missisipi (don´t let its name fool you, even I am mroe communist than him). Every day it passes, Communist Missisipi grows stronger and is able to expand its hatred and oppresion to all the ones who are not white christians. His military campaign in Africa has proved that he has no respect for the sovereignty of other nations nor respect for the lifes of other people.

This is a moment for all the Capitalsits, Communists, Musslims, Jews and REAL Christians to defend our liberty and show that we will not tolerated the reign of "white purity" that Communist Missisipi is willing to enforce.

I call for your support in this simple demand: Communist Missisipi, stop your radical hatred policies before it is too late, stop them before we make you stop them.
Sevaris
03-08-2004, 00:12
We fully stand by Grunge-France on this issue.
Swedish Dominions
03-08-2004, 00:17
As Grunge-Frances closest ally i totally stand by his side.
Communist Mississippi
03-08-2004, 00:20
Since a long time ago, it has been a government openly hostile against blacks and jews, against left-wing government and communists and against centre-right governments. A government that uses terrorist tactices against its enemies, being them foreign o national. A government that has violated liberties and human dignity, using a fanatical extremist christian zeal, a zeal that seeks for the white supremacy and the supremacy of its nation over the others.

Communist Missisipi has commited offenses against many nations: Capitalist nations, Communist nations, there is no difference and he has openly or in a secretive way attacked both kinds of nations, for all it wants is grow in power and conduct its plans of supremacy over all of us.

We cannot allow this to continue. We must draw our line and declare that we ARE NOT hostages of the crazy supremacy dessires of a fascist nation such as Communist Missisipi (don´t let its name fool you, even I am mroe communist than him). Every day it passes, Communist Missisipi grows stronger and is able to expand its hatred and oppresion to all the ones who are not white christians. His military campaign in Africa has proved that he has no respect for the sovereignty of other nations nor respect for the lifes of other people.

This is a moment for all the Capitalsits, Communists, Musslims, Jews and REAL Christians to defend our liberty and show that we will not tolerated the reign of "white purity" that Communist Missisipi is willing to enforce.

I call for your support in this simple demand: Communist Missisipi, stop your radical hatred policies before it is too late, stop them before we make you stop them.


Occ- I can have the Christian Martyrs Brigade lay low.

IC- I will not have my internal domestic policies dictated to me by other nations. Mississippi will remain 100% white today, tomorrow, and forever! However I can give you my assurance that my "lust for land" as it has been called in the past, is finally satisfied. I am content and happy with my current land situation. The Mississippians finally have the living space they have so deserved.

Occ- I really am done expanding this time.

IC- I will agree to sign treaties to guarantee that CM is done expanding and that we will uphold the rights of our arabs and negroes in our various African possessions. But we must be allowed to fight the terrorists in Libya, also there is a growing guerilla threat in Angola.

Occ- The guerilla movement in Angola will make for a good upcoming RP.
Kahta
03-08-2004, 00:21
Kahta supports Communist Mississippi.
Vollmeria
03-08-2004, 00:23
Occ- I can have the Christian Martyrs Brigade lay low.

IC- I will not have my internal domestic policies dictated to me by other nations. Mississippi will remain 100% white today, tomorrow, and forever! However I can give you my assurance that my "lust for land" as it has been called in the past, is finally satisfied. I am content and happy with my current land situation. The Mississippians finally have the living space they have so deserved.

Occ- I really am done expanding this time.

IC- I will agree to sign treaties to guarantee that CM is done expanding and that we will uphold the rights of our arabs and negroes in our various African possessions. But we must be allowed to fight the terrorists in Libya, also there is a growing guerilla threat in Angola.

Occ- The guerilla movement in Angola will make for a good upcoming RP.

Good.
We will support Communist Mississipi in this matter
Kahta
03-08-2004, 00:24
We do not wish to see this turn into a full scale war. We ask both sides to engage in diplomatic talks.
DontPissUsOff
03-08-2004, 00:25
Grunge-France has our fullest support.
Weyr
03-08-2004, 00:25
We can deploy Weyrean observers to ensure that CM will indeed maintain the rights of non-caucasian persons residing in its territories.
Newtdom
03-08-2004, 00:26
As an ally to Communist Mississippi, we shall stand by our Imperial partners. No matter the cost.
Hinnyburg
03-08-2004, 00:28
Communist Mississippi and it's allies are complete assholes!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is where I stand on this issue
Communist Mississippi
03-08-2004, 00:29
We can deploy Weyrean observers to ensure that CM will indeed maintain the rights of non-caucasian persons residing in its territories.


Sorry, but I won't compromise our national sovereignty and security by allowing your spies into our nation or territories. I will slightly open the doors to foreign media.

I will allow 10 foreign reporters into Mississippian Egypt and Angola. I will also allow 2 foreign reporters into Western Sahara.


The rules are that you must at all times obey Mississippian Law.

1) This means you are not allowed to take any form of visual or audio recordings of the Republican Guard, Special Republican Guard, White Knights of Mississippi, or installations of political, economic, or military importance. Unless you have permission from the commanders of the unit or the chief of the building in question.

2) All the reporters will be thoroughly examined before being allowed to enter and exit. All reporters must pass health tests and standard immigration law.

Occ- But Libya is closed for now, due to the secession crisis and the viral outbreak of IG in Fabus City.
Vollmeria
03-08-2004, 00:29
Communist Mississippi and it's allies are complete assholes!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is where I stand on this issue
Thank you for sharing that with us. Now back to your cave
Grunge-France
03-08-2004, 00:31
History has taught us that this "living space" is never enough for nation based in hatred as Communist Missisipi: Just remember, for those who are old enough, the Evil Imperium of Lord Melkor, once lord of half universe. His particular "lust for land" kept growing even if he assured it was not going to happen and, at the end, we needed a massive war that involved almost all the nations in that epoch to stop that imperialistic attitude.

No, we cannot allow this to continue happening. We must learn from history. Communist Missisipi will not rest until the white supremacy is recognised all over the world.

Communist Missisipi, if you are willing to come to good terms wit hthe civilised world, you might want to give the freedom to the negroes and other ethnicities to refugee in other countries.


Communist Missisipi is just a time bomb, we must stop this now while we can. This is a threat that the world cannot afford to tolerate anymore.
Kahta
03-08-2004, 00:31
Communist Mississippi and it's allies are complete assholes!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is where I stand on this issue

Ignored.
Hinnyburg
03-08-2004, 00:32
what cave is this in which u speak of????? And do u just support the Patrichal branch of the KKK???
Communist Mississippi
03-08-2004, 00:33
History has taught us that this "living space" is never enough for nation based in hatred as Communist Missisipi: Just remember, for those who are old enough, the Evil Imperium of Lord Melkor, once lord of half universe. His particular "lust for land" kept growing even if he assured it was not going to happen and, at the end, we needed a massive war that involved almost all the nations in that epoch to stop that imperialistic attitude.

No, we cannot allow this to continue happening. We must learn from history. Communist Missisipi will not rest until the white supremacy is recognised all over the world.

Communist Missisipi, if you are willing to come to good terms wit hthe civilised world, you might want to give the freedom to the negroes and other ethnicities to refugee in other countries.


Communist Missisipi is just a time bomb, we must stop this now while we can. This is a threat that the world cannot afford to tolerate anymore.


Well I tried to let the arabs leave Libya and Egypt, but the world made me take them back. Make up your minds people. What do you want from me?

Ic- I will sign any reasonable treaty assuring that we are done expanding. Furthemore I will begin a policy of openess and allow the iron curtain drawn around CM and her possessions to be cracked open just a little bit.
DontPissUsOff
03-08-2004, 00:33
OOC: What exactly are you doing? (This was at the little nation who says largely random things)
Communist Mississippi
03-08-2004, 00:34
No, we cannot allow this to continue happening. We must learn from history. Communist Missisipi will not rest until the white supremacy is recognised all over the world.
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You try crowding 1.2 billion people into Mississippi, we needed land. We've got enough, we're happy.

Occ- Are you an "Earth II" nation?

Ic- We just want to make sure that we can build white supremacy in one nation, our nation. We want our white supremacy to be secure and to prosper. We don't want to force it on the whole world because most of the world is non-white, we just want to be an isolationist state.
Communist Mississippi
03-08-2004, 00:35
OOC: What exactly are you doing? (This was at the little nation who says largely random things)

I'm going to let a few dozen foreign reporters into CM's possessions to see firsthand how the colonists and natives are prospering.
Kahta
03-08-2004, 00:37
History has taught us that this "living space" is never enough for nation based in hatred as Communist Missisipi: Just remember, for those who are old enough, the Evil Imperium of Lord Melkor, once lord of half universe. His particular "lust for land" kept growing even if he assured it was not going to happen and, at the end, we needed a massive war that involved almost all the nations in that epoch to stop that imperialistic attitude.

No, we cannot allow this to continue happening. We must learn from history. Communist Missisipi will not rest until the white supremacy is recognised all over the world.

Communist Missisipi, if you are willing to come to good terms wit hthe civilised world, you might want to give the freedom to the negroes and other ethnicities to refugee in other countries.


Communist Missisipi is just a time bomb, we must stop this now while we can. This is a threat that the world cannot afford to tolerate anymore.


Kahta recognizes that Communist Mississippi is a ticking time bomb, but interveneing in the situation will simply result in more bloodshed. The lust for land has ended, I have been given his personal word.

We will defend our fellow imperialist nation.
DontPissUsOff
03-08-2004, 00:37
Your continual refusal to acknowledge the rights of those who you have displaced in your colonies is not encouraging. Nor are our suspiscions regarding links between you and the CMB.
Itinerate Tree Dweller
03-08-2004, 00:40
ITD supports CM's sovereignty. Communist Mississippi's internal policy is his alone to dictate.
Grunge-France
03-08-2004, 00:40
OOC.: No, I´m not an Earth II nation.

IC

An isolationist state? You have annexed thousands of acres and subyugated thousands of humans on behalf of your so called white supremacy and NOW you want to be isolationsit, to avoid the outrage of a sensible international community feed up of your arbitrary actions?

You must allow minorites to leave the country, but above all, now that you have conquered so much land, you must allow the original inhabitants a decent live, in case they don´t wanted to leave THEIR territory, now unrightfuly under your rule.

An International Mission to watch for the protection of the rights of the original inhabitants is the way to assure you really mean what you say, and that you will not continue insulting the humanity with your senseless actions.
Vollmeria
03-08-2004, 00:41
War must be avoided at all costs, Communist Mississipi is willing to avoid war, and you?
IDF
03-08-2004, 00:41
I support CM as he gave me Porter and Lake Counties in Indiana
Communist Mississippi
03-08-2004, 00:43
OOC.: No, I´m not an Earth II nation.

IC

An isolationist state? You have annexed thousands of acres and subyugated thousands of humans on behalf of your so called white supremacy and NOW you want to be isolationsit, to avoid the outrage of a sensible international community feed up of your arbitrary actions?

You must allow minorites to leave the country, but above all, now that you have conquered so much land, you must allow the original inhabitants a decent live, in case they don´t wanted to leave THEIR territory, now unrightfuly under your rule.

An International Mission to watch for the protection of the rights of the original inhabitants is the way to assure you really mean what you say, and that you will not continue insulting the humanity with your senseless actions.


I will agree to set aside part of Libya for the natives. It will encompass perhaps 10-50 miles wide by 10-20 miles long and it will be on the coast so they have access to the outside world.

As for Angola, the whites and blacks live happily enough, the whites live in the cities, the blacks live in shantytowns outside the cities and are allowed into the cities to work, but must leave before night.

As for Egypt, we will figure something out.

Western Sahara, there simply aren't enough colonists or native people, so they currently simply live in cities that are segregated only in the residential areas. Businesses are open to all.
Derscon
03-08-2004, 00:44
The Czar of Derscon stands by Grunge-France completely. Discusting acts of Communist Mississippi must be stopped at all costs.

The Czar stands by Grunge-France.

General (retired) Franz von Papen
Foreign Minister to the Czar
The Protestant Prussian Czardom of Derscon
Unified West Africa
03-08-2004, 00:45
I will agree to sign treaties to guarantee that CM is done expanding and that we will uphold the rights of our arabs and negroes in our various African possessions.

Excerpt from Freetown Times news report, "Communist Mississippi Vows Change in Foreign Policy".

'Few ordinary citizens our paper interviewed felt there would be any serious change in Mississippi's policies towards non-white peoples and political dissidents, feelings reflected by polls indicating national feelings about Communist Mississippi remain %98 negative.

Gregory Banam, a baker in the city's main markets, echoed this sentiment, along with many others. "They want to uphold the rights of Blacks and Muslims in their territories? Then give them back their damn land."'
Communist Mississippi
03-08-2004, 00:46
Occ- I will agree to make an attempt to curtail the growth and the actions of the CMB. I will begin prohibiting known members from leaving Mississippi via harbors and airports.
Roach-Busters
03-08-2004, 00:47
Well I tried to let the arabs leave Libya and Egypt, but the world made me take them back. Make up your minds people. What do you want from me?

Ic- I will sign any reasonable treaty assuring that we are done expanding. Furthemore I will begin a policy of openess and allow the iron curtain drawn around CM and her possessions to be cracked open just a little bit.

Sorry to change the subject, but CM, please check your telegrams.
The Lightning Star
03-08-2004, 00:49
We support our Christian Brothers of Communist Mississippi, although we enforce a less radical form (I.E. We do not hate Non-christians that much, but only Christians can be Full-citizens.). We hope that an agreement can be reached on the matter, but if it comes to war we will add our armed forces (which have won numerous wars) to aid the Mississippians.
Derscon
03-08-2004, 00:53
Communist Mississippi is nowhere near Christian. They are polluters of the Word of God Almighty and agents of Satan.

General (retired) Franz von Papen
Foreign Minister to the Czar
The Protestant Prussian Czardom of Derscon
Weyr
03-08-2004, 00:59
WN3: Weyr Net News Network

In a curious move, Communist Mississippi has decided to open itself to the world. In statements issued earlier, it has promised to curtail its expansion, to allow small numbers of foreigners to enter its boders, and to sign treaties granting its non-caucasian residents more freedoms.

Communist Mississippi, a known imperialist state, has thus far maintained a closed system, where six identifications are needed to move even within its own borders. it has been known as the nation who took over and colonized Egypt and Libya, in the nabe of 'living space', often at the expense of native residents.

Whether or not this is indeed a change in course for the Communist Mississippi ship, is hard to say. A major question is whether or not this will influence the actions of the Christian Martyrs Brigade, which is now active in the civil war that is raing in the nation of the Lightning Star.

This is Wn3, signing off
Grunge-France
03-08-2004, 01:02
Considering Libyan natives are the REAL owner of Libya, I think the space they will be given is not enough... Belive it or not, they also need "living space" and that territory will not be enough for their growing population, a population which, if may I add, will have less resources and less access to the developen world due to the savage invasion they just had to face.

100-400 miles wide by 100-300 miles long on the coast should make for them. That was THEIR country, at least give them the enough space to live in and be a self-capable territory.

In Angola, you must guarantee that law will be eqqual to whites and blacks: You can forbid the blacks from voting if you want, but if a white guy kills a black, you must guarantee that white guy will spend the rest of his life in prision. We ask for a reasonable treatment to the population your imperialism has jeopardised.


An International Humanitarian Mission shall be send to that territory of the native Lybians to help in the construction of infrestructure and giving them stability, stability broken by your actions.
Yerffej
03-08-2004, 01:10
Yerffej would like to take this opportunity to openly express it's disgust of Communist Mississippi's internal racial policies. We will not join this alliance right now, but will take precautionary steps to counter Mississippi's growing power. Those steps will come shortly.
The Lightning Star
03-08-2004, 01:11
Occ- I will agree to make an attempt to curtail the growth and the actions of the CMB. I will begin prohibiting known members from leaving Mississippi via harbors and airports.

The Pope congragulates CM on this move to a more accepting Christian State like our own.
Swedish Dominions
03-08-2004, 01:12
Yerffej would like to take this opportunity to openly express it's disgust of Communist Mississippi's internal racial policies. We will not join this alliance right now, but will take precautionary steps to counter Mississippi's growing power. Those steps will come shortly.

OOc: When you are ready, Join the Brothers in Arms..... You find the thread somewhere on the first or second page
Communist Mississippi
03-08-2004, 01:13
Considering Libyan natives are the REAL owner of Libya, I think the space they will be given is not enough... Belive it or not, they also need "living space" and that territory will not be enough for their growing population, a population which, if may I add, will have less resources and less access to the developen world due to the savage invasion they just had to face.

100-400 miles wide by 100-300 miles long on the coast should make for them. That was THEIR country, at least give them the enough space to live in and be a self-capable territory.

In Angola, you must guarantee that law will be eqqual to whites and blacks: You can forbid the blacks from voting if you want, but if a white guy kills a black, you must guarantee that white guy will spend the rest of his life in prision. We ask for a reasonable treatment to the population your imperialism has jeopardised.


An International Humanitarian Mission shall be send to that territory of the native Lybians to help in the construction of infrestructure and giving them stability, stability broken by your actions.


We don't even allow whites to vote, so we aren't about to let blacks vote. Well whites can vote for local government such as mayors. We will allow the blacks to vote for their tribal (Village level) government.

Also a white man will receive a jury of his peers (If it's a rich white man, he gets 12 rich white men) if it's a WKM man, he gets 12 WKM men.

A white woman would have a jury of 12 white women, see how it works?

Also when whites commit serious crimes, we give them the option to join a "high-risk" military unit.
DontPissUsOff
03-08-2004, 01:16
That judiciary system will result in obvious and unacceptable bias. CMB members would be being tried by their fellows. Not going to lower the number of terrorist attacks much.
Communist Mississippi
03-08-2004, 01:19
That judiciary system will result in obvious and unacceptable bias. CMB members would be being tried by their fellows. Not going to lower the number of terrorist attacks much.

Occ- We will keep the CMB from leaving CM territory, thus they cannot attack foreign interests.
Seryown
03-08-2004, 01:23
Seryown fully supports Grunge-France's efforts to stop the imperialist threat of Communist Mississippi.
Grunge-France
03-08-2004, 01:26
Then, taking away that Angola comment we made, WE INSIST:

Considering Libyan natives are the REAL owner of Libya, I think the space they will be given is not enough... Belive it or not, they also need "living space" and that territory will not be enough for their growing population, a population which, if may I add, will have less resources and less access to the developen world due to the savage invasion they just had to face.

100-400 miles wide by 100-300 miles long on the coast should make for them. That was THEIR country, at least give them the enough space to live in and be a self-capable territory.


An International Humanitarian Mission shall be send to that territory of the native Lybians to help in the construction of infrestructure and giving them stability, stability broken by your actions.


Besides of course, the discussion being carried by DPUO on your CMBs.
Kahta
03-08-2004, 01:27
Kahta has no problem with CM's jury selection procedures. In Kahta we have judges and no juries.
Communist Mississippi
03-08-2004, 01:31
Then, taking away that Angola comment we made, WE INSIST:

Considering Libyan natives are the REAL owner of Libya, I think the space they will be given is not enough... Belive it or not, they also need "living space" and that territory will not be enough for their growing population, a population which, if may I add, will have less resources and less access to the developen world due to the savage invasion they just had to face.

100-400 miles wide by 100-300 miles long on the coast should make for them. That was THEIR country, at least give them the enough space to live in and be a self-capable territory.


An International Humanitarian Mission shall be send to that territory of the native Lybians to help in the construction of infrestructure and giving them stability, stability broken by your actions.


Besides of course, the discussion being carried by DPUO on your CMBs.


All 100 miles won't be on the coast. Also we've already spent 1.5-2 trillion dollars to make libya better. The territory would have a degree of autonomy but no foreigners could enter it.
Greenmanbry
03-08-2004, 01:32
Greenmanbry's government expresses its disgust for Communist Mississippi and it's racial policies. In our Sudan, Sudanese blacks and Sudanese arabs have full citizenship, full voting rights, and ultimate religious freedoms, thus we view discrimination with the utmost disgust.

We hereby stand alongside Grunge-France and all those fighting for liberty and equality. Our Muslim nation believes in such ideals, and is terrified to see much of Africa under the rule of a despot like yourself.
Communist Mississippi
03-08-2004, 01:35
Greenmanbry's government expresses its disgust for Communist Mississippi and it's racial policies. In our Sudan, Sudanese blacks and Sudanese arabs have full citizenship, full voting rights, and ultimate religious freedoms, thus we view discrimination with the utmost disgust.

We hereby stand alongside Grunge-France and all those fighting for liberty and equality. Our Muslim nation believes in such ideals, and is terrified to see much of Africa under the rule of a despot like yourself.


I'd like to make it clear, whites under my rule have basically no political freedom.

So we're not about to have non-whites with more political freedom than our own whites have.

My nation is a political dictatorship.
The Lightning Star
03-08-2004, 01:39
Once again we support CM for its actions, and we would like to state (partially because we dont want you gys to target us for being racist) that all our Colonies(Botswana, Mozambique, and Pakistan, Jammu and Kashmir) were ALL christian before we annexed them, and Pakistan is an exception, we give Pakistani Muslims full rights but there has been a steady increase in the Christian Population, from 1%then and 12%now (out of a nation of around 150 million people). As we stated earlier that All Christians have full Rights, and non-Christians (except for those in Pakistan) have partial rights(pakistani have full).
Grunge-France
03-08-2004, 01:45
Excuse us if we cannot trust you.

Excuse us if we cannot trust a nation with terrorist background, with loathe against foreigners as its national policy, with claims of supremacy over the world, that has seized several territories in a ruthless imperialistic campaign, that has acted so twisted that has united against it both capitalists and communists, and that consider all the territories controlled by non-white zelaous christians as "properties of the whites waiting to be claimed", excuse us.


We cannot let down the native Lybians nor let them at your entire disposal, at the entire dispossal of a racist white society... The reason is obvious. This is not just another issue that will vanish, this is a World Wide demand to you: Either you change your policy or we will make you change them. That is a clear statement that is very direct and very simple to understand.
We are not asking you to give away your national territory nor to accept international forces in your national territory: we are asking you to REMEMBER that Lybia IS propery of the native, that Lybia IS them.
The least you can do is to allow them a portion of that land that will be enough for them to exist peacefully and without problems.


We INSIST, for the third time: 100-400 miles wide by 100-300 miles long on the coast should make for them.
You have invested money in making Lybia a better place? Well, that is nice, considering how you, er, invaded and put all the scared population under the ruthless control of your christian hillbillies.

This is a commitment you have with the International Community. If you really are plannig an isolationist policy, this is the way to assure it, by respecting the other nations and the other people. The native Lybians deserve their very own land and a place where they can rule, maybe not as they used to do it before you invaded them, but at least a reminder that they were not subyugated, only "put" in another place.

100-400 miles wide by 100-300 miles long on the coast with an International Force helping the population -and why not, preventing them from carrying on any attack on your territories-.
Communist Mississippi
03-08-2004, 01:48
Excuse us if we cannot trust you.

Excuse us if we cannot trust a nation with terrorist background, with loathe against foreigners as its national policy, with claims of supremacy over the world, that has seized several territories in a ruthless imperialistic campaign, that has acted so twisted that has united against it both capitalists and communists, and that consider all the territories controlled by non-white zelaous christians as "properties of the whites waiting to be claimed", excuse us.


We cannot let down the native Lybians nor let them at your entire disposal, at the entire dispossal of a racist white society... The reason is obvious. This is not just another issue that will vanish, this is a World Wide demand to you: Either you change your policy or we will make you change them. That is a clear statement that is very direct and very simple to understand.
We are not asking you to give away your national territory nor to accept international forces in your national territory: we are asking you to REMEMBER that Lybia IS propery of the native, that Lybia IS them.
The least you can do is to allow them a portion of that land that will be enough for them to exist peacefully and without problems.


We INSIST, for the third time: 100-400 miles wide by 100-300 miles long on the coast should make for them.
You have invested money in making Lybia a better place? Well, that is nice, considering how you, er, invaded and put all the scared population under the ruthless control of your christian hillbillies.

This is a commitment you have with the International Community. If you really are plannig an isolationist policy, this is the way to assure it, by respecting the other nations and the other people. The native Lybians deserve their very own land and a place where they can rule, maybe not as they used to do it before you invaded them, but at least a reminder that they were not subyugated, only "put" in another place.

100-400 miles wide by 100-300 miles long on the coast with an International Force helping the population -and why not, preventing them from carrying on any attack on your territories-.


100 miles wide by 100 miles long, and it will be contained by Mississippian Libya, but it will have 5-10 miles on the coast and a port. But it will have no land borders with any other nation, because it must not be used as a staging area against CM Libya. Also their defense will be the responsibility of CM, but they will be allowed to maintain a 200,000 strong reserve force and 20,000 active duty force.
The Parthians
03-08-2004, 01:49
We find the actions of the Chrisitian Martyrs Brigade to be a threat to society, but however we do respect the soverignty of Communist Mississippi and hope that with international support Communist Mississippi will destroy the terrorists in their borders.
Communist Mississippi
03-08-2004, 01:51
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=344860


Right now Libya is under a secessionist government and civil-war is taking place.

These talks will mean nothing until the brothers war in Libya ends through negotiations or through a CM army victory.

The white colonists army vs the CM imperial forces.
Acre Union
03-08-2004, 01:51
Grunge France has our support.
The Lightning Star
03-08-2004, 01:51
The Pope is willing to send in 5 billion dollars to the nation of Communist Mississippi to help fund the plan for a semi-independent Libyan state.
Communist Mississippi
03-08-2004, 01:52
The Pope is willing to send in 5 billion dollars to the nation of Communist Mississippi to help fund the plan for a semi-independent Libyan state.


Occ- Please don't insult me. I've spent 1.5 trillion to make 400 desalination plants, 20,000 miles of canals, and 40 massive lakes to improve Libya for all citizens and colonists. We don't need 5 billion.
The Lightning Star
03-08-2004, 01:54
Occ- Please don't insult me. I've spent 1.5 trillion to make 400 desalination plants, 20,000 miles of canals, and 40 massive lakes to improve Libya for all citizens and colonists. We don't need 5 billion.

OOC: I would have given 100 billion if i could but if you remember my nation is in the middle of a civil war. I am trying to help you as much as i can.
Cullenus
03-08-2004, 01:56
The Kingdom of Cullenus stands by Communist Mississippi. We fully support his nation.


Also, if you believe I am racist, then you are wrong... I hate everyone equally. And I am glad to exercise my right to oppress my citizens. Thank you.

King Carpenter I
Kingdom of Cullenus
Earth II
Sreech
03-08-2004, 01:56
The United Socialist States of Sreech stand by Grunge-France on this issue.

Here is a statement from the office of the president.


...We beleive that Communist Mississippi are a bunch of vile humans. They are incredibly racsist to the point of housing such groups as the CMB (Don't deny it!), and other white radical groups. They need to stop the intolerance.

However, we deny any Military interference on this issue until further notice.

Steven Farinstance

State Deparment

The United Socialist States of Sreech.
Derscon
03-08-2004, 02:00
The czar is discusted at Communist Mississippi's total lack opf manners and demands that the Head of State give a formal apology to The Lightning Star.
Undecidedterritory
03-08-2004, 02:00
you guys ever hear about free speech. now i am no fan of communism or even mississipi for that matter. but i am a fan of free speech and it is not fair that i have to put up with some lunatics and not others. either u people ban all left/ right wing extrenists or you dont. its just that simple.
Communist Mississippi
03-08-2004, 02:02
you guys ever hear about free speech. now i am no fan of communism or even mississipi for that matter. but i am a fan of free speech and it is not fair that i have to put up with some lunatics and not others. either u people ban all left/ right wing extrenists or you dont. its just that simple.

CM is a fascist nation and will not be insulted as a communist nation.

Our actions are clearly fascist, would a rose by any other name not smell as sweet?
Itinerate Tree Dweller
03-08-2004, 02:06
Excuse us if we cannot trust you.

Excuse us if we cannot trust a nation with terrorist background, with loathe against foreigners as its national policy, with claims of supremacy over the world, that has seized several territories in a ruthless imperialistic campaign, that has acted so twisted that has united against it both capitalists and communists, and that consider all the territories controlled by non-white zelaous christians as "properties of the whites waiting to be claimed", excuse us.


We cannot let down the native Lybians nor let them at your entire disposal, at the entire dispossal of a racist white society... The reason is obvious. This is not just another issue that will vanish, this is a World Wide demand to you: Either you change your policy or we will make you change them. That is a clear statement that is very direct and very simple to understand.
We are not asking you to give away your national territory nor to accept international forces in your national territory: we are asking you to REMEMBER that Lybia IS propery of the native, that Lybia IS them.
The least you can do is to allow them a portion of that land that will be enough for them to exist peacefully and without problems.


We INSIST, for the third time: 100-400 miles wide by 100-300 miles long on the coast should make for them.
You have invested money in making Lybia a better place? Well, that is nice, considering how you, er, invaded and put all the scared population under the ruthless control of your christian hillbillies.

This is a commitment you have with the International Community. If you really are plannig an isolationist policy, this is the way to assure it, by respecting the other nations and the other people. The native Lybians deserve their very own land and a place where they can rule, maybe not as they used to do it before you invaded them, but at least a reminder that they were not subyugated, only "put" in another place.

100-400 miles wide by 100-300 miles long on the coast with an International Force helping the population -and why not, preventing them from carrying on any attack on your territories-.

You would much rather have them controlled by French Frogs.
Grunge-France
03-08-2004, 02:10
A civil war? Oh, I see. The white racist invaders against the white racist invaders. The only difference is that one group of them has the support of your government. However, they both share that THEY ARE NOT OWNERS OF THAT LAND, and that they can both be forced to accept the justice of the International Community, in case they make just another more expansion or another more terrorist-like crime.



The land of the native Lybians shall be 130 miles wide by 130 miles long, and with a direct corridor to the 5-10 miles on the coast and a port. We agree: no land borders to any nation, except of course CM Libya and the ocean.

Their defense will be the responsibility of an International Force that will be there TO RECONSTRUCT, TO HELP IN THE HEALTH PROGRAMS, IN THE EDUCATIONS AND IN POLICE DUTIES, you can decide whether to allow them their own reserves or not.
Communist Mississippi
03-08-2004, 02:15
A civil war? Oh, I see. The white racist invaders against the white racist invaders. The only difference is that one group of them has the support of your government. However, they both share that THEY ARE NOT OWNERS OF THAT LAND, and that they can both be forced to accept the justice of the International Community, in case they make just another more expansion or another more terrorist-like crime.



The land of the native Lybians shall be 130 miles wide by 130 miles long, and with a direct corridor to the 5-10 miles on the coast and a port. We agree: no land borders to any nation, except of course CM Libya and the ocean.

Their defense will be the responsibility of an International Force that will be there TO RECONSTRUCT, TO HELP IN THE HEALTH PROGRAMS, IN THE EDUCATIONS AND IN POLICE DUTIES, you can decide whether to allow them their own reserves or not.

No more than 5,000 armed foreigners in Arab Libya. It doesn't taken many to train police, also no military vehicles or aircraft.
Whittier-
03-08-2004, 02:16
Whittier will not tolerate the violation of CM soveriegnty by imperialists.
Communist Mississippi
03-08-2004, 02:17
A civil war? Oh, I see. The white racist invaders against the white racist invaders. The only difference is that one group of them has the support of your government. However, they both share that THEY ARE NOT OWNERS OF THAT LAND, and that they can both be forced to accept the justice of the International Community, in case they make just another more expansion or another more terrorist-like crime.



The land of the native Lybians shall be 130 miles wide by 130 miles long, and with a direct corridor to the 5-10 miles on the coast and a port. We agree: no land borders to any nation, except of course CM Libya and the ocean.

Their defense will be the responsibility of an International Force that will be there TO RECONSTRUCT, TO HELP IN THE HEALTH PROGRAMS, IN THE EDUCATIONS AND IN POLICE DUTIES, you can decide whether to allow them their own reserves or not.


On second thought, here is the deal. The Arabs can continue to live in their own cities scattered throughout Libya. Their cities will be declared off-limits to whites, just as the white cities are off-limits to arabs. Unless permission is obtained from the colonial government or local mayors.

There will be no foreigners allowed inside any of CM or her empire, except for the few dozen reporters we agreed to earlier.
Vendi
03-08-2004, 02:22
CM, this is something that can easily be done. Grunge-France and the rest of the BiA only wishes to gain the stability of the international community. Help us help you. This is a chance to showcase to the world that while your ideas may be radical, your intent is not evil. Recently, the CMB has been rampaging across borders and onto the watchlists of the BiA. This is a crisis that we have to act on, and with haste. Terrorism is something that calls every nation to turn their eyes outward. We want to end the fear that the CMB has brought, and we want you to help us. What we ask is that if your government has any known members that they are turned over to us or dealt within your own government system. We want to end their reign of terror and begin an era of peace that the international community will enjoy for years to come. Our campaign is a noble one, and we only ask nations to be noble in return. Notify Vendi or our allies with your solution to the CMB problem. Thank you for your time.

Yours with Respect,
Nigel Rightly
Prime Minister of Vendi
Grunge-France
03-08-2004, 02:30
"""On second thought, here is the deal. The Arabs can continue to live in their own cities scattered throughout Libya. Their cities will be declared off-limits to whites, just as the white cities are off-limits to arabs. Unless permission is obtained from the colonial government or local mayors."""

SO THEN:

Then the Arab Cities will have total right of self-government, the Arab cities will have their own laws, their own police. They will have no right to stablish an army.
The CM Army or its colonial Armies will not be able to enter an Arab City UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE. You might say "well, if they get attacked by someone?" well, for that it would need that someone entered into the CM Lybia, into your own territory, thing that you will not tolerate, as I suposse. So no CM military will be able to enter into that cities.

The cities will have their independent tax system, and will not make contributions to CM or its colonial governments.

CM Lybia has THE OBLIGATION to give 5% of its budget to the Arab Cities, even if they do not contribute with taxes.

The Arab population will be able to travel all around Lybia CM and explode its resources as long as they are not in the radious of a White City.

If a CM soldiers or one of its colonial soldiers set foot on an Arab City, the International Community gets automatically the right to, excuse me the expression, kick the hell out of there the soldiers with force sif needed.

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If not accepted, well, you know the other propossal. The number of soldiers in the international force will have no limit, and can have aircraf and vehicles But, to show you Grunge-France has no special interest, our contribution to that international force will be no bigger than 5,000 soldiers, WITH NO AIRCRAFT NOR VEHICLES.
Communist Mississippi
03-08-2004, 02:33
The Arab population will be able to travel all around Lybia CM and explode




Nobody will be "Exploding" anything in my country, that is terrorism. I will not allow that.
Communist Mississippi
03-08-2004, 02:34
"""On second thought, here is the deal. The Arabs can continue to live in their own cities scattered throughout Libya. Their cities will be declared off-limits to whites, just as the white cities are off-limits to arabs. Unless permission is obtained from the colonial government or local mayors."""

SO THEN:

Then the Arab Cities will have total right of self-government, the Arab cities will have their own laws, their own police. They will have no right to stablish an army.
The CM Army or its colonial Armies will not be able to enter an Arab City UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE. You might say "well, if they get attacked by someone?" well, for that it would need that someone entered into the CM Lybia, into your own territory, thing that you will not tolerate, as I suposse. So no CM military will be able to enter into that cities.

The cities will have their independent tax system, and will not make contributions to CM or its colonial governments.

CM Lybia has THE OBLIGATION to give 5% of its budget to the Arab Cities, even if they do not contribute with taxes.

The Arab population will be able to travel all around Lybia CM and explode its resources as long as they are not in the radious of a White City.

If a CM soldiers or one of its colonial soldiers set foot on an Arab City, the International Community gets automatically the right to, excuse me the expression, kick the hell out of there the soldiers with force sif needed.

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If not accepted, well, you know the other propossal. The number of soldiers in the international force will have no limit, and can have aircraf and vehicles But, to show you Grunge-France has no special interest, our contribution to that international force will be no bigger than 5,000 soldiers, WITH NO AIRCRAFT NOR VEHICLES.


I can barely understand a word you say, and what words I can understand are very butchered in spelling, but I agree to parts of this.

CM colonial forces reserve the right to enter into any city if the situation presents a threat to the white race, colonial army, or to the stability of the Colony.
The Lightning Star
03-08-2004, 02:35
Nobody will be "Exploding" anything in my country, that is terrorism. I will not allow that.

I think he meant "explore"
DontPissUsOff
03-08-2004, 02:36
Impossible. CM would instantly judge that such a threat was posed and attack accordingly.
IDF
03-08-2004, 02:36
CM ought to be left alone. We are a Jewish nation and find no faults with him.
Communist Mississippi
03-08-2004, 02:37
Impossible. CM would instantly judge that such a threat was posed and attack accordingly.


You have my guarantee we would not intervene unless there was a dire emergency.
Communist Mississippi
03-08-2004, 02:38
CM ought to be left alone. We are a Jewish nation and find no faults with him.


Agreed, while my nation curtails domestic jewish power, we encourage israeli jewish power. We believe jews should have the right to Israel and the surround territory (if you wanted to take Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, etc, we'd back you)

We believe each group must have their own land. And how can 1.2 billion mississippians be confined to Mississippi, just as how can over 500 million jews of IDF be confined to Israel alone.

Living space!


Mississippi has her living space, we are done expanding.
Dancing Moose
03-08-2004, 02:46
((If this ever escalades into a war, CM will have my full support as allies. If theres anything I can do at this point, CM, let me know.))
DontPissUsOff
03-08-2004, 02:49
Why nations continue to support such a despicable terrorist-supporting state is beyond us.
Layarteb
03-08-2004, 02:51
The Empire of Layarteb is intrigued why a nation that attacks communists calls its Communist xxx. However, the Empire of Layarteb does not consider the actions of Communist Mississippi to be wrong. We are apathetic to their actions and care not what happens to either party. In addition, any Earth II attack on Communist Mississippi will be considered as a third-party war. The Empire of Layarteb will only get involved if forces of conflicts cause harm to Layartebian citizens traveling abroad, any embassies, and any land in our territories. They do their thing, we do our thing and as long as CM doesn't get involved in Layartebian matters or mess with out land we just don't care.

As a side note, the Emperor quietly nods his head to the happenings of CM but we do have to say that we have nothing against the Jews, after all they kill Arabs and terrorists so we don't have to. That is an unofficial stance that was thought by the Emperor as he read the post.
Swedish Dominions
03-08-2004, 03:09
I was told to keep the thread up so here i go.....

*BUMP*
Itinerate Tree Dweller
03-08-2004, 03:16
The Empire considers this a settled issue and has ordered his advisors to observe all the nations involved in the dispute.
Derscon
03-08-2004, 04:00
I reitterate my support for Grunge-France
Chellis
03-08-2004, 04:30
OOC: Just to let you know GF, he ignores any war he doesnt want to fight, so most likely he will just ignore anything you do if you actually do anything. If...
Ascendotuum
03-08-2004, 11:01
While the A.R.A would prefer to see this matter resolved peacefully, in accordance with the Alliance, we will support Grunge-France with any resources necessary should conflict become unavoidable. We believe that if CM were to arrest and turn over all known members of the CMB to an international court, that this would be a positive step on the road to resolving this situation.

William Harker
Secretary of State
The Armed Republic of Ascendotuum
Communist Mississippi
03-08-2004, 11:50
While the A.R.A would prefer to see this matter resolved peacefully, in accordance with the Alliance, we will support Grunge-France with any resources necessary should conflict become unavoidable. We believe that if CM were to arrest and turn over all known members of the CMB to an international court, that this would be a positive step on the road to resolving this situation.

William Harker
Secretary of State
The Armed Republic of Ascendotuum

Occ- There are 5.5 million members and 40-50 million active financial supporters. We dont' beleive in "International courts" and even if we did, no nation on Earth would turn over 55 million of their citizens just for exercising their beliefs.

Occ- I've already agreed to keep them from leaving the nation, what harm can they do to the outside world if we keep them inside CM territories.
Kanabia
03-08-2004, 11:55
EDIT- We withdraw our statement of support in preference for more direct action.
Unified West Africa
03-08-2004, 13:41
We find Grunge France's proposal to be completely unacceptable, no matter how good their intentions. All that is being done is replacing one form of apartheid with another, which will allow Mississippi to continue their occupation under the guise of international legitimacy. We will continue our embargo against Libya, Parthian and CM Mississippi, and the regional colonial powers until their settlers go home.
Vollmeria
03-08-2004, 13:54
The Empire is concerned about this conflict. outsiders are telling CM how to govern his own country. They are telling him his people should stay in a small area and die because there's not enough food to feed all citizens. Some nations raise entire colonial empires but CM is not allowed to seek some Lebensraum... I mean living space, yes thats it... living space.
We think the outsiders should stay outside until they are invited.

Ministry of Foreign Affairs
Vollmeria
Autonomous City-states
03-08-2004, 13:59
I think that a government which does not recognize the natural rights inherent to all sentient beings - no matter their ethnicity, heritage, or species - is not a just government at all.

Anyone in the territories under Communist Mississippi's control who wishes to live free of fear and oppression is welcome to come to the Autonomous City-states.

Secretary-General Ericsson
DontPissUsOff
03-08-2004, 13:59
With all respect, CM's imperialist policy would be less of a problem were it not for their willingness to fund any organisation dedicated to spreading their heinous message throughout the world, and enforcing that message by any means necessary.
Sevaris
03-08-2004, 14:05
I agree. If CM would stop the oppression of the African peoples, and stop funding the CMB (I can't confirm, but it's probably true), perhaps more nations would be ok with it. However, CM is just trying to spread his white-supremacist message throughout the free world.
New Kingman
03-08-2004, 14:30
We fully support the actions of Grunge-France, as we are appaled by the actions of Communist Mississippi and the Christian Martyr Brigade. We view the occupation of Libya and other nations as a threat to surrounding nations.
Derscon
03-08-2004, 15:33
The Czar calls for the immediate disbanding of the so-called "Christian" Martyr Brigade.

General (ret) Franz von Papen
Foreign Minister to the Czar
The Protestant Prussian Czardom of Derscon
The Parthians
03-08-2004, 16:39
With all respect, CM's imperialist policy would be less of a problem were it not for their willingness to fund any organisation dedicated to spreading their heinous message throughout the world, and enforcing that message by any means necessary.
I agree with DPUO.
Grunge-France
03-08-2004, 16:55
So let´s clarify:

*the Arab Cities will have total right of self-government, the Arab cities will have their own laws and their own poliy. They will have no right to stablish an army though.

*The CM Army or its colonial Armies will not be able to enter an Arab City UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE I repeat, under ANY CIRCUMSTANCE. CM cannot reserve the right to interfeer. The only Army that will be able to enter into an Arab city will be an International Force. Why? because you are racist, thus we cannot trust its local population will have a decent treat. So NO CM ARMY NOR CM COLONIAL ARMY.

*The cities will have their independent tax system, and will not make contributions to CM or its colonial governments.

*CM Lybia has THE OBLIGATION to give 5% of its income to the Arab Cities, even if they do not contribute with taxes. So 5% of all the tax income in CM Lybia will go to the Arab Cities.

*The Arab population will be able to travel all around Lybia CM and -Sorry for the mistake- EXPLOIT (not explode, lol) its resources as long as they are not in the radious of a White City. So, the arab population has total right to take advantage from the forests, jungles, water supplies and any other natural resources within CM Lybia and the Arab Cities.

*The Arabs will have the right to enter a white city, for all Lybia belongs to them. They will have to leave at night.

*The Whites will hav no right to enter in an Arab City. If they do, they will be apprehended by the Arab City Police and will face justice for trespassing. CM Lybia will have to respect any decision an Arab City takes regarding its justice system, even if puts in prission a white accused of trespassing.

*If a CM soldier or one of its colonial soldiers set foot on an Arab City, the International Community gets automatically the right to, excuse me the expression, kick the hell out of there the soldiers with force if needed.

*OOC.: If CM just decides to ignore that action because that´s a war he´s not willing to take, then he will be the bad RPer, not us.

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I think that was pretty clear for all of us to understand it.

You can take the other proposal, the one about giving them their own territories.

Remember: This is not being asked by Grunge-France. Just take a look at all the nations supporting the International call for justice. This is being asked by the humanity, a humanity that trusts that you will make the correct decisions before it is too late. The international community has spoken at a good moment, to fix all what your rampant imperialism has damaged. But the international community sees that every day it passes, more native lybians suffer, and we will not tolerate that for too much time, be sure of that.
Itinerate Tree Dweller
03-08-2004, 17:03
The Emperor of ITD sees no problem. CM has sworn to keep the CMB out of any other nation, so nobody should have any problems with him.
CM has every right to run his country any which way he sees necessary, it's his right as a sovereign nation. Not every nation is a democracy, and every nation cannot be forced to exist like a democracy, you liberal nations fail to realize this. Until liberal democracies realize the rights of an empire nation, the world will never be safe, as there will always be somebody complaining about "human rights violations". Not every nation recognizes your so called "human rights".

Save The World From Democracies.
Join The League Of Empire Loyalists.
Sevaris
03-08-2004, 17:13
I am not a democracy. I am a benevolent dictator, a la Franco. However, I believe in taking care of all my people. Empires may exist, certainly- but they must respect the rights of the indigenous people as well. They should work for the greater good of their own citizens. CM's policies, however, are counter-productive and work only for the good of white people.

Premier Alec Mannerheim
Republic of Sevaris
Communist Mississippi
03-08-2004, 18:32
We find Grunge France's proposal to be completely unacceptable, no matter how good their intentions. All that is being done is replacing one form of apartheid with another, which will allow Mississippi to continue their occupation under the guise of international legitimacy. We will continue our embargo against Libya, Parthian and CM Mississippi, and the regional colonial powers until their settlers go home.


Don't forget I have Angola and Western Sahara also.
Communist Mississippi
03-08-2004, 18:35
*The CM Army or its colonial Armies will not be able to enter an Arab City UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE I repeat, under ANY CIRCUMSTANCE. CM cannot reserve the right to interfeer. The only Army that will be able to enter into an Arab city will be an International Force. Why? because you are racist, thus we cannot trust its local population will have a decent treat. So NO CM ARMY NOR CM COLONIAL ARMY.





Occ- If an International soldier from a nation without my permission, sets foot inside a CM territory or enters through a CM territory, or CM waters, my people are so distrustful and their hatred of the UN and internationalism is so strong I will have no choice but to view that as a hostile act. I see your plad, gradually drive CM out of Libya, and take it for yourself. All while claiming to be stopping "Evil CM imperialism".
Communist Mississippi
03-08-2004, 18:37
I am not a democracy. I am a benevolent dictator, a la Franco. However, I believe in taking care of all my people. Empires may exist, certainly- but they must respect the rights of the indigenous people as well. They should work for the greater good of their own citizens. CM's policies, however, are counter-productive and work only for the good of white people.

Premier Alec Mannerheim
Republic of Sevaris


Lets see, there are about 1.2 billion people in the CM Empire, most live in Mississippi. There are only about 50 million non-whites in the CM empire (All of them of in the African colonies). I am not going to bend over and accomodate 50 million people at the expense of over 1 billion. I don't believe in a tyranny of the minority, I believe in majority rule. And whites are the majority of the empire. Except in Western Sahara where there are 250,000 arabs and only 50,000 whites.
Communist Mississippi
03-08-2004, 18:45
So let´s clarify:


*CM Lybia has THE OBLIGATION to give 5% of its income to the Arab Cities, even if they do not contribute with taxes. So 5% of all the tax income in CM Lybia will go to the Arab Cities.

*The Arab population will be able to travel all around Lybia CM and -Sorry for the mistake- EXPLOIT (not explode, lol) its resources as long as they are not in the radious of a White City. So, the arab population has total right to take advantage from the forests, jungles, water supplies and any other natural resources within CM Lybia and the Arab Cities.

*The Arabs will have the right to enter a white city, for all Lybia belongs to them. They will have to leave at night.

*The Whites will hav no right to enter in an Arab City. If they do, they will be apprehended by the Arab City Police and will face justice for trespassing. CM Lybia will have to respect any decision an Arab City takes regarding its justice system, even if puts in prission a white accused of trespassing.





5% of the taxes of 50 million colonists? White people don't work for the benefit of another race. Our work will only be done if it directly benefits us our allies. We are not slaves and will not be treated as such.


There were no canals, no desalinations plants, no lakes, before we came. We spent 2 trillion dollars to make Libya into a lush green paradise. If the arabs wish to enjoy that, they can remain a part of the great CM empire and retain a degree of local autonomy. If they become totally separate city-states, they will lose all access to the water canals, desalination plants, and the lakes.


If a single Arab sets foot inside a white city (such as New Jackson City) that were built new after we began occupation, they will be arrested and booted out. They may enter the cities such as Tripoli that were already existing before we arrived. But it makes no sense to me they should be allowed to enter cities whites built (such as New Jerusalem, New Jackson City, etc) because we did all that labor ourselves. The army engineers built the cities, as did private CM companies, and they employed over 10 million whites to do so.



We will not force a white man (or a white woman for that matter) to submit to Arab justice (or any non-white justice). We recall that arabs often stone women to death for offenses such as "Revealing her arm from under her burka" (Occ- that happened under the Taliban in Afghanistan). Back to IC- Also arab law is incredibly unfair to women and "infidels" alike. Seeing as our white men are infidels to the arabs, and the white women are infidels and women, the white women would likely be treated awful by arab justice, we won't accept the possibility of an arab mob publicly gang raping a white woman convicted of some trivial offense, as an attempt to defile and humiliate her.
Communist Mississippi
03-08-2004, 18:47
With all respect, CM's imperialist policy would be less of a problem were it not for their willingness to fund any organisation dedicated to spreading their heinous message throughout the world, and enforcing that message by any means necessary.



Occ- That can be arranged. It all depends, if people attempt to invade and boot me out of my colonies, the CMB might accidentally wind up with a few thousand briefcase nukes and other large bombs. But if my right to my colonies is respected and upheld, the CMB could very well fade rapidly and just become another chapter in the history books.
Communist Mississippi
03-08-2004, 18:52
*OOC.: If CM just decides to ignore that action because that´s a war he´s not willing to take, then he will be the bad RPer, not us.



Occ- I'll be honest, I have a very difficult time understanding you. You said explode when you meant explore (Honest mistake I'll give you that). But it is quite difficult to know just what your treaty idea is when you say "Explode" instead of exploit (you don't explore resources, you exploit them)

Occ- Also, I've messaged a few of you all and asked you if I should be ready for a war, and have gotten no replies, so if a war is sprung on me from out of nowhere, I will be within my rights to ignore it.

Occ- I'd much rather RP a diplomatic negotiations, as I think it'd be nicer and have less godmodding than a war. I honestly don't like wars as they all to often become a frenzy of "I hit you", "I hit you back, harder!"

Occ- We should all get on yahoo or msn and work something out.
Greenmanbry
03-08-2004, 18:56
ooc - that idea is not bad.. very civil of you.. my msn is in my profile. Just give me a time and date, and I would be glad to join the discussion..
Vendi
03-08-2004, 18:57
With all due respect Communist Mississippi, we are opening these dialogues to keep from using military action. Diplomacy is indeed the first step to peace and should be the only step. I see no problem with your colonies as they are and would like to allow you to keep them. While Vendi does not agree with your policies on race, we hope equality and representation is a goal you would reach on your own. Without the intervention of any other nation.
Communist Mississippi
03-08-2004, 18:59
representation is a goal you would reach on your own. Without the intervention of any other nation.

Occ- You don't get it. The Premier represents all the people, he decides, they obey. No whites questions him, so we're sure as heck not going to allow non-whites to question him.

Occ- Well a few people may question him, but then they get a swift kick in the ass from the Republican Guard or the secret police.
Derscon
03-08-2004, 19:09
OOC: If you have to scilence those outspoken, he doesn't really represent the people, does he.
Communist Mississippi
03-08-2004, 19:14
OOC: If you have to scilence those outspoken, he doesn't really represent the people, does he.

The only people who oppose him are a tiny minority (less than 1-2% of whites oppose him) also surprisingly enough, about 90% of the african natives in the colonies are against the premier (But they only number 50 million total)

We will not allow a small minority to stand in the way of progress. We will not have a majority bullied into submission by a minority!
New Kingman
03-08-2004, 19:29
So I guess that justifies the secret police and the massive oppression of minorities, right?
Sevaris
03-08-2004, 19:31
We merely want the non-whites to have the same rights as the whites. That's all we want.
Derscon
03-08-2004, 19:33
The only people who oppose him are a tiny minority (less than 1-2% of whites oppose him) also surprisingly enough, about 90% of the african natives in the colonies are against the premier (But they only number 50 million total)

We will not allow a small minority to stand in the way of progress. We will not have a majority bullied into submission by a minority!

OOC: Surprisingly?!? Are you stupid?!?

OF COURSE THEY HATE YOU! You ARE oppressing them, in case you forgot.

o.O

Note: No problem with secret police, but the racism needs to stop.
Much happiness
03-08-2004, 19:34
I stand by grunge france capitalists-and comunists should unite against the common enemy of facism
Communist Mississippi
03-08-2004, 19:37
Here is an idea of what White Mississippians had to deal with before Fabus came to power.

This is a list of what he did to better their lives. After being oppressed by a black, jewish, mexican, and atheist coalition that was never more than 11% of the nation, from 1960-1984, there is no way in hell a white in Mississippi will ever accept to live amongst them ever again, unless the dominance of the white Mississippian is established by law.




Accomplishments of Premier Fabus from December 1984 onwards.

Curtis Fabus 1961-

Premier from 1984-

1) White unemployment was 60% as outsourcing had ruined the economy and foreigners snatched up the remaining jobs. 1 year after he took power, white unemployment was 4%.

2) Taxes on whites were 90% before he came to power. 1 year after he took power, taxes on whites were 60%.

3) There were over 300,000 black on white rapes and over 50,000 black on white murders per year before Fabus came to power. The week after he came to power, the black on white crime rate dropped to virtually nonexistent

4) There were no free elections the year before he came to power. 1 year after he came to power, he allowed people to vote for local officials.

5) There were total gun bans for a few years before he came to power. After he came to power all gun regulations were declared null and void.

6) Before he came to power the nation had a weak army of less than 1 million. After he came to power, it grew and grew, eventually growing to 17 million in the army, and large numbers in the air force and navy.

7) Before he came to power, the armed forces were 70% non-white, despite non-whites only being 8% of the nation, the government used them to lord it over the white majority. It was a tyranny of the minority. The day his power was made official, the armed forces became 100% white. (He disbanded most of the armed forces, used the 4 elite white parachute divisions, the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th, to form the core of the new army and then he made the white militias and paramilitaries the new soldiers for the new army, the militias from his home city were spent 12 months training and became the first regiment of Republican Guard, which was later expanded to a full division, and then a full corps, then 2 corps, and to where it is today, over 70 divisions.

8) He saved the environment and made the water drinkable. Before he came to power the old joke was, "How did he kill himself? He drank a glass of water."
Also most species were on the endangered list. A year after he came to power the water was so clean you could see the bottoms of rivers, and it was so safe to drink the premier drank it right from the rivers to demonstrate to the people it was safe.

9) He made the trains run on schedule. Before he came to power trains were often 1-2 weeks late. After he came to power they were either 30 seconds early or right on time.

10) The previous government allocated only about 100 dollars per year per white student, believing that whites weren't important enough to educate. Although whites still better on all standardized tests because parents felt enough responsibility for their kids to teach them at home in their spare time. After Fabus took power, the government spent an average of 20,000 dollars per year per white student.

11) Fabus allowed the national anthem to be legalized. The previous government said nationalism was dangerous. Fabus disagreed.

12) Fabus allowed children to fly kites. The previous government said that kite flying distracted children from important things, such as working the fields and factories.

13) Fabus allowed free marriage between white males and white females. The previous government had set limitations on the numbers of marriage licenses issued to white couples as an attempt to stop whites from having babies.

14) Fabus allowed citizens the right to be secure in their own homes. The previous government declared that all citizens must stand ready to accept non-white refugees into their homes whenever called upon to do so. Fabus scrapped that idea and as a matter of fact, he scrapped the whole idea of non-white refugees. (The previous government had only allowed non-whites into the nation, Fabus reversed it and only allowed whites)

15) Despite being less than 1/10 of 1 percent of the nation, the jews controlled 60% of the 500 seats in the congress and they controlled 52% of the wealth in the nation. They also owned 6 of the 8 major national news media networks. The day after Fabus came to power, the Jews lost all 6 of their news networks and every Jew was expelled from congress. Also they eventually had their ill-gotten gains seized by the government and given to the white workers whose pension funds they had looted. (It was a common practice in Pre-Fabus Mississippi for a Jewish CEO or a Masonic CEO to loot a company of the pension fund and then use his clout to see the attorney general never brought charges against him)

16) Fabus banned the masons, the illuminati, the skull and bones, etc. Before Fabus, it was determined that the president, vice president, the entire supreme court, and 30% of congress were involved in some sort of Masonic or other secret society. Fabus ended all of that and the Masonic lodges were turned into after-school centers for youths to stay off the street and do something constructive.

17) While real Mississippians fell into poverty and hardships, immigrant Jews amassed fabulous fortunes. But not through hard work and honest methods. But through usury, swindling, and fraud. One Jewish CEO had looted his company for 27 billion dollars. Another had declared bankruptcy 4 times, each time he would then establish a new company, but to those he owed debts, they were wiped out when the debts went unpaid. A Masonic CEO looted his company for 15 billion dollars, and then he fled to Panama.

18) Before Fabus came to power, the government had no real victories in war to be proud of. Except those operations that the 4 white parachute divisions had won, but then the politicians had wasted the victories away. After Fabus came to power, people could proudly say, "I'm a Mississippian."

19) Before Fabus came to power, Mississippi had been under the limitations of a brutally oppressive foreign imposed treaty. Fabus true to his words "I shall tear the bloody thing asunder", did so, approximately 36 months after he came to power he unveiled that CM had a biological and chemical weapons program (in violation of the treaty) but it was so massive nobody dared challenge him. He also announced his intentions to put millions of men into uniform. He also announced he intended to eventually reassert Mississippian control over the DMZ along the Mississippi-Tennessee border. (Mississippi under the previous government had lost a war to Tennessee and 4 other states, and the Mississippi Tennessee border was demilitarized) When Fabus finally marched troops into the DMZ about 6 years after he came to power, nobody did anything about it.
Derscon
03-08-2004, 19:49
OOC: First off, the Illuminati is dead. Right now, I am trying to revive the Illuminati.

Second, I am glad that Fabus did all this. Rather tyranny by majority and not tyranny by minorty.

BUT..

rather no tyranny at all.

I say that the minorities learned their lesson. Let them have some rights, and if they try a rebellion, I promise I will send troops to help YOU crush it.
Yerffej
03-08-2004, 19:51
OOC: First off, the Illuminati is . Right now, I am trying to revive the Illuminati.

Second, I am glad that Fabus did all this. Rather tyranny by majority and not tyranny by minorty.

BUT..

rather no tyranny at all.

I say that the minorities learned their lesson. Let them have some rights, and if they try a rebellion, I promise I will send troops to help YOU crush it.
According to CM, there are no more minorities.
Communist Mississippi
03-08-2004, 19:54
OOC: First off, the Illuminati is dead. Right now, I am trying to revive the Illuminati.

Second, I am glad that Fabus did all this. Rather tyranny by majority and not tyranny by minorty.

BUT..

rather no tyranny at all.

I say that the minorities learned their lesson. Let them have some rights, and if they try a rebellion, I promise I will send troops to help YOU crush it.


We've only had success living with American Indians, only 1 tribe of the 5 tribes in Mississippi broke a treaty and rose against us, we crushed them. But try as we might, the blacks remained a thorn in our side.

The indians were and remain honorable people. The only real problem we had was when a group of rogue generals attacked some tribes, but the premier intervened to stop them, (He gave them his word their reservations would be safe, and he kept his word)

There are currently no non-whites in Mississippi other than about 2 million american indians that live on 5 large reservations. We don't intend to allow any other non-whites into Mississippi.

We will never revoke our "White only" immigration policies. To move to Mississippi or a CM territory, you must be white. If you're in a CM colony in Africa and you're not white but you lived there prior to our taking it as a colony, you're allowed to stay.
Derscon
03-08-2004, 20:38
I have no problem with your immigration policy -- immigration is something in which I NEVER interfere with another nation about.

The blacks are a thorn in your side because you oppress them. I say let all minorities move to your colonies, isolate them, and be done with it.
Communist Mississippi
03-08-2004, 20:43
I have no problem with your immigration policy -- immigration is something in which I NEVER interfere with another nation about.

The blacks are a thorn in your side because you oppress them. I say let all minorities move to your colonies, isolate them, and be done with it.


There haven't been blacks in our North American territories for a few NS years now.


There are no non-whites outside of the Colonies in Africa.
Derscon
03-08-2004, 20:54
Oh.

Regardless, you are still treating the arabs bad, so I have to oppose you.
Sevaris
03-08-2004, 20:56
All we want now is for CM to merely respect and protect the rights of all its people, including the small minority. We don't believe in affirmative action, we just want him to grant blacks and arabs equal status with the white Mississippians. It would appear that Fabus is trying to right wrongs that have been comitted over the years, but he has disregarded the minorities. They should not be punished for what they did, but, again, they should have the same rights as whites.
Communist Mississippi
03-08-2004, 21:00
All we want now is for CM to merely respect and protect the rights of all its people, including the small minority. We don't believe in affirmative action, we just want him to grant blacks and arabs equal status with the white Mississippians.


In the words of Joseph Mladic, "We cannot say a Black is the equal of an a White, any more than we say an F student is the equal of an A student. The blacks are and always will remain biologically inferior to our people. And hence they will remain intellectually and emotionally inferior to our people. We must never attempt to live amongst them as equals, or they will devour and destroy us."
Sevaris
03-08-2004, 21:02
They're still people. We are all humans, stuck on this little rock together. We should try not to fight amongst ourselves when there are probably greater forces out there that wish to destroy us all.
Communist Mississippi
03-08-2004, 21:05
greater forces out there that wish to destroy us all.

Joseph Mladic would reply, "Are you talking about the jews?"
Sevaris
03-08-2004, 21:07
Not at all. I'm talking about all these space empires- run by aliens that want to destroy the Earth.
Communist Mississippi
03-08-2004, 21:08
Not at all. I'm talking about all these space empires- run by aliens that want to destroy the Earth.


Joseph Mladic scratches his head and says, "Space? Empires? Aliens? Are you on crack?"
Sevaris
03-08-2004, 21:09
No- they exist. The Hive is the one I know of.
Mekanta
03-08-2004, 21:36
-SECRET IC

"Communist Mississippi seems ignorant of the existance of more advanced nations."

"Silly primatives. Let's abduct some of his population and anally probe them."

"... You're a sick, sick puppy, TT-716. And now I'm going to put you down."

"I'll grab females for you this time."

"... Eh, maybe later..."


-Transmission to Communist Mississippi

"Having trouble with those minorities protesting your genetic superiority?"

"The answer is, my dear apes, mock alien abductions! Get rid of them quickly and easily by making it seem like flying saucers are carrying them off. They're stupid minorities! They won't know the difference!"

"Alternately, for the modest price of any heads we take plus any we grab accidently, Mekanta can do the job for you. We're genuine non-humans, willing to abduct anyone for the sake of weapons test- we mean... social... development..."

"If you're interested, please contact our hive on Earth. Thank you, now be a good ape and I'll give you a bananna."
Washibar
03-08-2004, 21:42
The Emirate of Washibar, a 100% muslim Arabic state, is appauled at the Genocidial Attitudes of the Kingdom of Communist Mississippi. We support any action of Pacify this Racist, REligionistic, power hungry (dont deny it), evil state of the devil.
Grunge-France
04-08-2004, 00:06
OOC.: On that explode-explore-exploit issue. I have already stated what I meant but now I will say why I had the confussion. You see, I made a very simple mistake. I assumed ""oh, well, if in Spanish "explotar" means both the act of bursting into pieces and the act of taking advantage and benefits from the natural resources then in English must be the same thing"",so, my ignorant being assumed that in English "explode" must also mean, besides the acting of bursting into pieces, also the acting of taking advantage and benefits from the natural resources. Later I learned that in English, explode could only mean burst into pieces, unlike in Spanish. That´s the whole thing.
EXPLOIT. EXPLOIT. EXPLOIT.
sorry for all the confussion.
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Communist Mississippi, stop avoiding this discussion. Once again, I post before all the community the conditions that will avoid a social crisis and above all, an international crisis, which you are causing if may I add:


IN LYBIA

*the Arab Cities will have total right of self-government, the Arab cities will have their own laws and their own poliy. They will have no right to stablish an army though.

*The CM Army or its colonial Armies will not be able to enter an Arab City UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE I repeat, under ANY CIRCUMSTANCE. CM cannot reserve the right to interfeer. The only Army that will be able to enter into an Arab city will be an International Force. Why? because you are racist, thus we cannot trust its local population will have a decent treat. So NO CM ARMY NOR CM COLONIAL ARMY.

*The cities will have their independent tax system, and will not make contributions to CM or its colonial governments.

*CM Lybia has THE OBLIGATION to give 5% of its income to the Arab Cities, even if they do not contribute with taxes. So 5% of all the tax income in CM Lybia will go to the Arab Cities.

*The Arab population will be able to travel all around Lybia CM and -Sorry for the mistake- EXPLOIT (not explode, lol) its resources as long as they are not in the radious of a White City. So, the arab population has total right to take advantage from the forests, jungles, water supplies and any other natural resources within CM Lybia and the Arab Cities.

*The Arabs will have the right to enter a white city, for all Lybia belongs to them. They will have to leave at night.

*The Whites will hav no right to enter in an Arab City. If they do, they will be apprehended by the Arab City Police and will face justice for trespassing. CM Lybia will have to respect any decision an Arab City takes regarding its justice system, even if puts in prission a white accused of trespassing.

*If a CM soldier or one of its colonial soldiers set foot on an Arab City, the International Community gets automatically the right to, excuse me the expression, kick the hell out of there the soldiers with force if needed.

*OOC.: If CM just decides to ignore that action because that´s a war he´s not willing to take, then he will be the bad RPer, not us. Now you have stated why you will not participate in a war you have not planned, so now we know your reasons. You are in your right of doing so. But you will show poor RPer capabilities at the most by doing so, but of course, if you don´t care what people say, then you are ok.

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You can take the other proposal, the one about giving them their own territories.

Remember: This is not being asked by Grunge-France. Just take a look at all the nations supporting the International call for justice. This is being asked by the humanity, a humanity that trusts that you will make the correct decisions before it is too late. The international community has spoken at a good moment, to fix all what your rampant imperialism has damaged. But the international community sees that every day it passes, more native lybians suffer, and we will not tolerate that for too much time, be sure of that.

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Let´s see for how long you can remain avoiding this treaty. Just be careful because the International Community might, just might, get tired of it and then we would have to enforce it.
Communist Mississippi
04-08-2004, 00:14
OOC.: On that explode-explore-exploit issue. I have already stated what I meant but now I will say why I had the confussion. You see, I made a very simple mistake. I assumed ""oh, well, if in Spanish "explotar" means both the act of bursting into pieces and the act of taking advantage and benefits from the natural resources then in English must be the same thing"",so, my ignorant being assumed that in English "explode" must also mean, besides the acting of bursting into pieces, also the acting of taking advantage and benefits from the natural resources. Later I learned that in English, explode could only mean burst into pieces, unlike in Spanish. That´s the whole thing.
EXPLOIT. EXPLOIT. EXPLOIT.
sorry for all the confussion.
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Communist Mississippi, stop avoiding this discussion. Once again, I post before all the community the conditions that will avoid a social crisis and above all, an international crisis, which you are causing if may I add:


IN LYBIA

*the Arab Cities will have total right of self-government, the Arab cities will have their own laws and their own poliy. They will have no right to stablish an army though.

*The CM Army or its colonial Armies will not be able to enter an Arab City UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE I repeat, under ANY CIRCUMSTANCE. CM cannot reserve the right to interfeer. The only Army that will be able to enter into an Arab city will be an International Force. Why? because you are racist, thus we cannot trust its local population will have a decent treat. So NO CM ARMY NOR CM COLONIAL ARMY.

*The cities will have their independent tax system, and will not make contributions to CM or its colonial governments.

*CM Lybia has THE OBLIGATION to give 5% of its income to the Arab Cities, even if they do not contribute with taxes. So 5% of all the tax income in CM Lybia will go to the Arab Cities.

*The Arab population will be able to travel all around Lybia CM and -Sorry for the mistake- EXPLOIT (not explode, lol) its resources as long as they are not in the radious of a White City. So, the arab population has total right to take advantage from the forests, jungles, water supplies and any other natural resources within CM Lybia and the Arab Cities.

*The Arabs will have the right to enter a white city, for all Lybia belongs to them. They will have to leave at night.

*The Whites will hav no right to enter in an Arab City. If they do, they will be apprehended by the Arab City Police and will face justice for trespassing. CM Lybia will have to respect any decision an Arab City takes regarding its justice system, even if puts in prission a white accused of trespassing.

*If a CM soldier or one of its colonial soldiers set foot on an Arab City, the International Community gets automatically the right to, excuse me the expression, kick the hell out of there the soldiers with force if needed.

*OOC.: If CM just decides to ignore that action because that´s a war he´s not willing to take, then he will be the bad RPer, not us. Now you have stated why you will not participate in a war you have not planned, so now we know your reasons. You are in your right of doing so. But you will show poor RPer capabilities at the most by doing so, but of course, if you don´t care what people say, then you are ok.

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You can take the other proposal, the one about giving them their own territories.

Remember: This is not being asked by Grunge-France. Just take a look at all the nations supporting the International call for justice. This is being asked by the humanity, a humanity that trusts that you will make the correct decisions before it is too late. The international community has spoken at a good moment, to fix all what your rampant imperialism has damaged. But the international community sees that every day it passes, more native lybians suffer, and we will not tolerate that for too much time, be sure of that.

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Let´s see for how long you can remain avoiding this treaty. Just be careful because the International Community might, just might, get tired of it and then we would have to enforce it.


I've already declared where I stand on this issue.

I'm not going to compromise Libya, the arabs will allow the arab terrorists to use the arab cities as bases of terrorism to launch attacks against white cities.

Libya belongs to CM.

The white cities built after we took over Libya are for whites-only, the other cities that were already there when we came will be open to arabs to travel in the day. We are not going to allow people to use the cities we built with our own hands.

No international force will be allowed to enter into Libya.


Occ- You know what, these discussions are over, I will post my reform plan for Libya shortly. We will try for a few NS months to govern all citizens in Libya, White and Arab, under the same set of laws, that will treat them as political equals. If that doesn't work, we will try something else. But I will first attempt to solve this problem my own way before I allow outside interference.

Occ- Also note Libya is currently in a civil war with white colonists fighting white government forces. This is not the time to be bellyaching about how Libya is governed.
Kahta
04-08-2004, 00:29
I think CM should give a small strip of land to the Arabs, and thats it.
DontPissUsOff
04-08-2004, 00:34
It's the arabs' land. And CM is one to talk of terrorism, I must say.
Grunge-France
04-08-2004, 00:37
You won´t allow people enter in their very own lands? Who the hell told you to invade them and then -then- construct with your very hands hosues and cities? No, you must take FULL responsibility of your actions.

These propossals are to avoid us the need of enforcing the respect for the native Lybians. They are not the ones to blame for all your imperialistic actions, you are IN THEIR LAND, you will have to accommodate to their needs, or we will simply give freedom to the Lybians.

So far righ tnow you have treated this legitimate claim as a joke, but we are not wlling to take it anymore. You are in no possition to negotiate, for it requires a reasonable government to negotiate and you are a racist extremis nation, ergo, you have no reason. Then again, the Lybians are not the ones to blame for the madness and non-sense of the white radicals your nation has given birth.

Do not play around with us. Lybia does not belong to CM. If we conceed it belong to CM, a little imperialist invader, then you conceed us the right to follow your example and make Lybia ours which might work just fine then.

Analyse all the options given, do not cause a war for the pleassure of it.
Weyr
04-08-2004, 00:39
Eh, it's up to CM. But if he decides that he needs a relatively impartial ground force in the area, he can give us a call, as soon as we're done with TLS...

Major-General Markowitz,
Commander of the Weyrean Expeditionary Corps
Communist Mississippi
04-08-2004, 01:00
You won´t allow people enter in their very own lands? Who the hell told you to invade them and then -then- construct with your very hands hosues and cities? No, you must take FULL responsibility of your actions.

These propossals are to avoid us the need of enforcing the respect for the native Lybians. They are not the ones to blame for all your imperialistic actions, you are IN THEIR LAND, you will have to accommodate to their needs, or we will simply give freedom to the Lybians.

So far righ tnow you have treated this legitimate claim as a joke, but we are not wlling to take it anymore. You are in no possition to negotiate, for it requires a reasonable government to negotiate and you are a racist extremis nation, ergo, you have no reason. Then again, the Lybians are not the ones to blame for the madness and non-sense of the white radicals your nation has given birth.

Do not play around with us. Lybia does not belong to CM. If we conceed it belong to CM, a little imperialist invader, then you conceed us the right to follow your example and make Lybia ours which might work just fine then.

Analyse all the options given, do not cause a war for the pleassure of it.


Ic- I won't cause a war because none of you have replied to my TGs asking if you are trying to start a war. I told you already I plan wars very long in advance and down to detail. If you already have in your mind you want a war, you need to tell me a few days in advance so we can plan it, if you spring a war on me, I ignore it.

Ic- Right now I am not going to start a war, but I am not going to let you turn 100 miles of Libya into a puppet government you will run. I will settle the arab issues and I will decide what works. I don't need the international community to tell me anything! About my solution plan, don't knock it till you've seen it attempted. If it doesn't work, I may allow international advisors to help work out a new plan.

Ic- But first I am going to ruthlessly crush the white colonists that are attempting secession, then I will deal with the question of arabs and their rights. First Libya must be brought back under CM imperial command before anything can be done. Rebels won't listen to our orders.

Ic- I ask you stop your bellyaching against me at least until the rebels are defeated and I actually have a say in Libya again. Right now the rebel colonial government is running the place.
Grunge-France
04-08-2004, 01:14
OOC:

You do realise OOC means Out of Character, right?
Yoo do realise that all I´m doing is IC, and as long as you keep posting all the important stuff OOC, according to the rules, I cannot take them into account IC, right?
You have mentioned your plan OOC. my IC has no idea of that, you know?

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"""Occ- I won't cause a war because none of you have replied to my TGs asking if you are trying to start a war. I told you already I plan wars very long in advance and down to detail. If you already have in your mind you want a war, you need to tell me a few days in advance so we can plan it, if you spring a war on me, I ignore it."""

And what was I saying? that you will not RP a war you have not planned yourself and that you already know the ending. That´s freaking boring. And freaking bad for your RP because I would say 90% of the wars beggin with a kind of surprise or not expected offensive.

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IC -only taking into account your IC statements-

No, you would not need the international community to tell you a thing if you had not violated its order by invading a foreign nation. As I said, you must take full responsibilities of your actions. If the International Community is calling for your attention is because you are doing something against the Community itself, and we have every right to defend us from your rampant imperialism.

This would have ended if you accepted to give the Native Lybians their very own territory, I mean, you have lots of it, which you took away from..err, well, Native Lybians. They WILL BE RULED by themselves, only Native Lybians will have access to the government and will have no obligation with Grunge-France NOR Communist Mississippi.
Washibar
04-08-2004, 01:37
The Nation of Washibar would like to inquire about who may enter the Arab cities? May Arabs from other states enter, or only Libyan Arabs?
Communist Mississippi
04-08-2004, 01:51
The Nation of Washibar would like to inquire about who may enter the Arab cities? May Arabs from other states enter, or only Libyan Arabs?


Right now all of CM Libya is under CM law, nobody, white or non-white, gets in or out of Libya without 6 pass cards.
Washibar
04-08-2004, 02:16
Right now all of CM Libya is under CM law, nobody, white or non-white, gets in or out of Libya without 6 pass cards.

I meant if these laws made by Grunge-France and the others. With the Free Arab cities and such. I know about your cards.
Layarteb
04-08-2004, 02:18
Right now all of CM Libya is under CM law, nobody, white or non-white, gets in or out of Libya without 6 pass cards.

Way to keep them under wraps ;).
Yerffej
04-08-2004, 02:44
...if you spring a war on me, I ignore it.
And this, of course, is godmodding of the worst kind. Assuming that a surprise attack is made by a competent RPer who doesn't godmod himself in that attack, I don't see how you can simply 'ignore' the attack and still consider yourself a decent and respectable RPer. If you support NS being a realistic and challenging world at all, you have to allow surprise attacks being made on your nation (especially if you've garnered the sort of reputation you have, CM). Anything else, and you're a hypocrite. I don't see how you can consider wars planned out to the last detail to be in the least bit fun. The reason that we roleplay is to compete, much as nations in RL do. Just doing your own thing is simply detrimental to that ideal.
The Lightning Star
04-08-2004, 02:53
The Lightning Starian christian overnmen has been destroyed and the Government that has replaced it fully supports the Weakening of CMs Racist hold over its terriories(mainly Libya).
Communist Mississippi
04-08-2004, 02:57
The Lightning Starian christian overnmen has been destroyed and the Government that has replaced it fully supports the Weakening of CMs Racist hold over its terriories(mainly Libya).


Occ- Libya is the jewel in our colonial empire. Also Mississippian Egypt and Angola are great.
Layarteb
04-08-2004, 03:03
The Empire of Layarteb is intrigued why a nation that attacks communists calls its Communist xxx.

Seriously, what's the deal with this?
Communist Mississippi
04-08-2004, 03:06
Seriously, what's the deal with this?


This isn't 20 questions okay. A name is just a name.
The Lightning Star
04-08-2004, 03:08
Occ- Libya is the jewel in our colonial empire. Also Mississippian Egypt and Angola are great.

As you know, we also posses a colonial Empire. Your Christians Martyrs brigade have launched a few attacks on it..
Santa Sagissima
04-08-2004, 03:39
There were no canals, no desalinations plants, no lakes, before we came. We spent 2 trillion dollars to make Libya into a lush green paradise.


Strat-Bull
The Strategic Bulletin for IR Professionals

While it is obvious to all intelligent observers that claims like the above are a more extreme example of the loss of propaganda credibility that occurs in dictatorships, the implications are perhaps not so obvious.

Strat-Bull believes that realpolitik practitioners must assume that Libya is still a desert. The Arab population (which CM claimed originally to have totally removed to the Ottoman empire) is realistically probably still the majority; and the white settlers are probably the most desperate (even criminal) of all Mississippi's citizens.

A realistic assessment of the limits of modern tech in changing the environment also forces one to recognise the inherently destablising tensions that the Mississippian order is built on - and the importance of international conflict in stalling the breakdown of that order.

While the Grunge-France discussions will probably mollify less perceptive players, those with an eye to the long term will be preparing themselves for more attention-seeking stunts from the Deep South.
Communist Mississippi
04-08-2004, 03:43
Strat-Bull
The Strategic Bulletin for IR Professionals

While it is obvious to all intelligent observers that claims like the above are a more extreme example of the loss of propaganda credibility that occurs in dictatorships, the implications are perhaps not so obvious.

Strat-Bull believes that realpolitik practitioners must assume that Libya is still a desert. The Arab population (which CM claimed originally to have totally removed to the Ottoman empire) is realistically probably still the majority; and the white settlers are probably the most desperate (even criminal) of all Mississippi's citizens.

A realistic assessment of the limits of modern tech in changing the environment also forces one to recognise the inherently destablising tensions that the Mississippian order is built on - and the importance of international conflict in stalling the breakdown of that order.

While the Grunge-France discussions will probably mollify less perceptive players, those with an eye to the long term will be preparing themselves for more attention-seeking stunts from the Deep South.


Occ- You're an idiot!

Ic- I Rped turning Libya into a paradise, I rped the canals, it's all in my RPs. 2 trillion spent. I also RPed sending 50 million people there. There are about 20 million arabs and 50 million whites. Who is the majority?
Santa Sagissima
04-08-2004, 03:45
And this, of course, is godmodding of the worst kind. Assuming that a surprise attack is made by a competent RPer who doesn't godmod himself in that attack, I don't see how you can simply 'ignore' the attack and still consider yourself a decent and respectable RPer. If you support NS being a realistic and challenging world at all, you have to allow surprise attacks being made on your nation (especially if you've garnered the sort of reputation you have, CM). Anything else, and you're a hypocrite. I don't see how you can consider wars planned out to the last detail to be in the least bit fun. The reason that we roleplay is to compete, much as nations in RL do. Just doing your own thing is simply detrimental to that ideal.

ooc- the thing is that Komunist Misisipi takes as its foreign policy model the USA, which is the world's sole superpower, unlike CM, which is not. It also assumes that although Mississippi is vastly more powerful than modern day USA, Libya etc have not grown in power at all.

The thing is that KM has so much time to play NS it is harder for us to ignore him. What I suggest is reading more flagrant breaches of realism as government propaganda, or in extreme circumstances, as the daydreams of President Fabus.
The Lightning Star
04-08-2004, 03:46
Occ- You're an idiot!

Ic- I Rped turning Libya into a paradise, I rped the canals, it's all in my RPs. 2 trillion spent. I also RPed sending 50 million people there. There are about 20 million arabs and 50 million whites. Who is the majority?

OOC: The Man has a point. He DID Rp all these things.
Communist Mississippi
04-08-2004, 03:47
ooc- the thing is that Komunist Misisipi takes as its foreign policy model the USA, which is the world's sole superpower, unlike CM, which is not. It also assumes that although Mississippi is vastly more powerful than modern day USA, Libya etc have not grown in power at all.

The thing is that KM has so much time to play NS it is harder for us to ignore him. What I suggest is reading more flagrant breaches of realism as government propaganda, or in extreme circumstances, as the daydreams of President Fabus.


Occ- I must ask, are you on drugs? I don't know what the hell any of that meant. I don't know why you can't spell Communist Mississippi. And above all I don't know why you're insane!
Santa Sagissima
04-08-2004, 03:48
Occ- You're an idiot!

Ic- I Rped turning Libya into a paradise, I rped the canals, it's all in my RPs. 2 trillion spent. I also RPed sending 50 million people there. There are about 20 million arabs and 50 million whites. Who is the majority?

You rped moving everyone irreversibly to the ottoman empire and then surprise surprise, moved them back in again in a matter of minutes. I think one post did it.

It depends what you mean by rp. For instance, I could rp the killling of your president at the drop of the hat. It would be 1000 times easier than evacuating the entire population of Libya and then moving them back in again.
Communist Mississippi
04-08-2004, 03:51
You rped moving everyone irreversibly to the ottoman empire and then surprise surprise, moved them back in again in a matter of minutes. I think one post did it.

It depends what you mean by rp. For instance, I could rp the killling of your president at the drop of the hat. It would be 1000 times easier than evacuating the entire population of Libya and then moving them back in again.


I do recall it being about a several hour delay. I didn't RP poof them back, I rped starting to move them back. They got back a few NS days later.
Ascendotuum
04-08-2004, 04:46
Originally Posted by Itinerate Tree Dweller

CM has sworn to keep the CMB out of any other nation, so nobody should have any problems with him.

That sounds all well and good in theory, but I'm curious as to how long the CMB is going to be statisfied to "sit around and knit".
Communist Mississippi
04-08-2004, 04:49
That sounds all well and good in theory, but I'm curious as to how long the CMB is going to be statisfied to "sit around and knit".


Occ- Like Arab radicals turned on Morocco and Saudi Arabia for "going soft" so too could the CMB turn on CM for "going soft". If so, we'd crush them, problem solved. But right now we're thinking of turning the CMB into a legitimate combat organization that will only take part in military actions against military targets.
Weyr
04-08-2004, 04:55
Strat-Bull
The Strategic Bulletin for IR Professionals

While it is obvious to all intelligent observers that claims like the above are a more extreme example of the loss of propaganda credibility that occurs in dictatorships, the implications are perhaps not so obvious.

Strat-Bull believes that realpolitik practitioners must assume that Libya is still a desert. The Arab population (which CM claimed originally to have totally removed to the Ottoman empire) is realistically probably still the majority; and the white settlers are probably the most desperate (even criminal) of all Mississippi's citizens.

A realistic assessment of the limits of modern tech in changing the environment also forces one to recognise the inherently destablising tensions that the Mississippian order is built on - and the importance of international conflict in stalling the breakdown of that order.

While the Grunge-France discussions will probably mollify less perceptive players, those with an eye to the long term will be preparing themselves for more attention-seeking stunts from the Deep South.


Anyone here read Kennan's "The Sources of Soviet Conduct" (http://www.historyguide.org/europe/kennan.html)?
Layarteb
04-08-2004, 08:06
This isn't 20 questions okay. A name is just a name.

As it will assist in just how we will way into future dealings with you in Earth II I think it is very important. Are you a communist, socialist, or other assorted 'leftie' or not?
Santa Sagissima
04-08-2004, 13:56
This isn't 20 questions okay. A name is just a name.

As it will assist in just how we will way into future dealings with you in Earth II I think it is very important. Are you a communist, socialist, or other assorted 'leftie' or not?

If a name is just a name, we see no reason to spell your name properly. If it does have some meaning, then we will spell it correctly. "The Invisible Empire of Mississippi", "The Nazi Reich of Mississippi", "The Fascist Dictatorship of Mississippi" - all these would be scrupulously spelled if you chose to rename yourself.
Layarteb
04-08-2004, 17:47
Because I want to be sure it is just a name.
Communist Mississippi
04-08-2004, 17:52
Because I want to be sure it is just a name.


I am not now nor have I ever been, nor will I ever be a member of any organization considered politically or socially left-wing.

I'd say economically I'm moderate left, politically and socially hard right.
Layarteb
04-08-2004, 18:11
I am not now nor have I ever been, nor will I ever be a member of any organization considered politically or socially left-wing.

I'd say economically I'm moderate left, politically and socially hard right.

That works for me. Consider the Empire of Layarteb a friendly nation!
Bonstock
04-08-2004, 19:02
Sorry, but I won't compromise our national sovereignty and security by allowing your spies into our nation or territories. I will slightly open the doors to foreign media.

I will allow 10 foreign reporters into Mississippian Egypt and Angola. I will also allow 2 foreign reporters into Western Sahara.


The rules are that you must at all times obey Mississippian Law.

1) This means you are not allowed to take any form of visual or audio recordings of the Republican Guard, Special Republican Guard, White Knights of Mississippi, or installations of political, economic, or military importance. Unless you have permission from the commanders of the unit or the chief of the building in question.

2) All the reporters will be thoroughly examined before being allowed to enter and exit. All reporters must pass health tests and standard immigration law.

Occ- But Libya is closed for now, due to the secession crisis and the viral outbreak of IG in Fabus City.

Two Bonstocknian Sattelite Television (BSTV) reporters would like permission to enter Angola and Mississippi to create a doumentary, entitled, "What Humanity Has Become." The two are well known reporters from BSTV's World Report: Alice Zhang and Suleiman bin Mohammed.
Grunge-France
04-08-2004, 19:38
We still have a long road to walk while dealing with the imperialism and racism of CM that affects all uf us in one way or another. However, Talks are being held with the CM government to ASSURE the Native Lybians a free place IN LYBIA (why should they leave their own country?) where they will govern themselves. A territory which will grant them political independence and economical independence.

The world shall not forget all these things. By keeping an eye on the CM´s moves we will ensure the safety and peace of the entire planet. As long as we are there to impose the respect for the human dignity and the sovereignty of other nations, disregarding if they are capitalists of communists, the world will not have to face more violence and senseless slaughters.
Communist Mississippi
04-08-2004, 19:45
Two Bonstocknian Sattelite Television (BSTV) reporters would like permission to enter Angola and Mississippi to create a doumentary, entitled, "What Humanity Has Become." The two are well known reporters from BSTV's World Report: Alice Zhang and Suleiman bin Mohammed.


Sorry but those are not white names by an stretch of the imagination. We only allow whites into our nations (unless it's a colony and the non-white is a citizen returning from a foreign vacation etc)

We also allow non-whites to stay at our airports while waiting for connecting flights to take them out of CM territory (but they cannot set foot outside the designated waiting room)


We request you send two white reporters, no wait, we demand that if you send anybody they be white.
Communist Mississippi
04-08-2004, 19:50
My roadmap for peace is this:


http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ly.html


Now draw a line from Zuwarah to Ghadamis, that is the chunk of land I'm thinking will become the Arab Libya.

We will be allowing them to use the 12-15 desalination plants in Zuwarah, free of charge.


Also we will be building a wall (At our cost) that will effectively seal off the arab libya from the white libya. (Sort of like the Israeli wall in RL)
The Lightning Star
04-08-2004, 19:53
My roadmap for peace is this:


http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ly.html


Now draw a line from Zuwarah to Ghadamis, that is the chunk of land I'm thinking will become the Arab Libya.

We will be allowing them to use the 12-15 desalination plants in Zuwarah, free of charge.


Also we will be building a wall (At our cost) that will effectively seal off the arab libya from the white libya. (Sort of like the Israeli wall in RL)

The Lightning Star believes that this area is too small, and not on the coast like it was agreed. Banghazi to Darnah seems like a much better choice for the Libyans. We like that you are making steps, though, for a peaceful resolution.
Layarteb
04-08-2004, 19:55
My roadmap for peace is this:


http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ly.html


Now draw a line from Zuwarah to Ghadamis, that is the chunk of land I'm thinking will become the Arab Libya.

We will be allowing them to use the 12-15 desalination plants in Zuwarah, free of charge.


Also we will be building a wall (At our cost) that will effectively seal off the arab libya from the white libya. (Sort of like the Israeli wall in RL)

Not that we are dissenting just we wish you take into account that the same situation in Israel with terrorism will arise in your own place. Granted I side with Israel in that matter, I just hope you deal with it properly and effectively.
Communist Mississippi
04-08-2004, 19:58
Not that we are dissenting just we wish you take into account that the same situation in Israel with terrorism will arise in your own place. Granted I side with Israel in that matter, I just hope you deal with it properly and effectively.


We will have a massive wall and station 5-6 divisions of soldiers along the wall, so there will be no problem. We will not coddle terrorists. :)
Layarteb
04-08-2004, 19:59
We will have a massive wall and station 5-6 divisions of soldiers along the wall, so there will be no problem. We will not coddle terrorists. :)

That's a relief, a big one!

EOL analysts continue to monitor the happenings in CM Libya. We're hoping that all is well.
Communist Mississippi
04-08-2004, 19:59
The Lightning Star believes that this area is too small, and not on the coast like it was agreed. Banghazi to Darnah seems like a much better choice for the Libyans. We like that you are making steps, though, for a peaceful resolution.



Hello, Zuwarah is on the coast!

Learn to see!

The area is basically the length of the border with Tunisia! 459 km long

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ly.html


The point of it being on the side, is so we don't have to patrol 2 sides. If we stick it in Central Libya, we'd have to patrol a square (4 sides) This way we patrol basically 1-2 sides at the most, the other side is the border with Tunisia.


Also Benghazi and Darnah each have about 2-3 millions whites, we won't ask whites to move.

Zuwarah has only about 5,000 whites, (they'll move when we pull the army out and tell them they're on their own if they stay) (RL: Israel should do the same to the Gaza settlers, about 6,000 total, just pull the soldiers out, tell the settlers, you can follow us back or you stay here and take your chances)
The Lightning Star
04-08-2004, 20:02
Hello, Zuwarah is on the coast!

Learn to see!

The area is basically the length of the border with Tunisia! 459 km long

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ly.html

Yes,but Ghadmas isnt. ARe you only going in a strait line? Or does the area turn into a square or something?
Communist Mississippi
04-08-2004, 20:03
Yes,but Ghadmas isnt. ARe you only going in a strait line? Or des the area turn into a square or something?



Draw a line from Ghadamis to the east until it is directly under Zuwarah, and then go straight up to Zuwarah, everything that is sealed-off by those lines, will be arab land. Most likely that is it.
The Lightning Star
04-08-2004, 20:04
Hello, Zuwarah is on the coast!

Learn to see!

The area is basically the length of the border with Tunisia! 459 km long

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ly.html


The point of it being on the side, is so we don't have to patrol 2 sides. If we stick it in Central Libya, we'd have to patrol a square (4 sides) This way we patrol basically 1-2 sides at the most, the other side is the border with Tunisia.


Also Benghazi and Darnah each have about 2-3 millions whites, we won't ask whites to move.

Zuwarah has only about 5,000 whites, (they'll move when we pull the army out and tell them they're on their own if they stay) (RL: Israel should do the same to the Gaza settlers, about 6,000 total, just pull the soldiers out, tell the settlers, you can follow us back or you stay here and take your chances)

Now that you explain your decision, we still thinks its too small, but we agree hat it makes sense.
Bonstock
04-08-2004, 20:09
Sorry but those are not white names by an stretch of the imagination. We only allow whites into our nations (unless it's a colony and the non-white is a citizen returning from a foreign vacation etc)

We also allow non-whites to stay at our airports while waiting for connecting flights to take them out of CM territory (but they cannot set foot outside the designated waiting room)


We request you send two white reporters, no wait, we demand that if you send anybody they be white.

Fine, BSTV will send a single reporter, Piotr Chuikov, who IS white, by the way. He is also taking his wife, Jiang Li, and his cameraman, Werner Wiessman.
Communist Mississippi
04-08-2004, 20:12
Fine, BSTV will send a single reporter, Piotr Chuikov, who IS white, by the way. He is also taking his wife, Jiang Li, and his cameraman, Werner Wiessman.


Sorry but we don't allow confirmed race mixers to leave airports (They are treated like non-whites and must wait to get a connecting flight. And we do the same with the jews. Just send a white male reporter married to a white female, and a white cameraman! Don't disrespect CM's culture and views!


We can guarantee safety to any who travel to Mississippi, but we cannot guarantee safety in Angola. There is currently a massive guerilla uprising going on in Angola, the nation is under a "state of emergency" and a black curfew has been enacted.
Bonstock
04-08-2004, 20:20
Sorry but we don't allow confirmed race mixers to leave airports (They are treated like non-whites and must wait to get a connecting flight. And we do the same with the jews. Just send a white male reporter married to a white female, and a white cameraman! Don't disrespect CM's culture and views!


We can guarantee safety to any who travel to Mississippi, but we cannot guarantee safety in Angola. There is currently a massive guerilla uprising going on in Angola, the nation is under a "state of emergency" and a black curfew has been enacted.

All right. Fine. Piotr Chuiko's son, Josef, (who is NOT Jewish, just half Russian half "other"), will take the trip.
Communist Mississippi
04-08-2004, 20:24
All right. Fine. Piotr Chuiko's son, Josef, (who is NOT Jewish, just half Russian half "other"), will take the trip.


What about pure white don't you get. Half "Other" doesn't cut it. Does getting 1/2 the questions on a test right get you anything?
Bonstock
04-08-2004, 20:36
What about pure white don't you get. Half "Other" doesn't cut it. Does getting 1/2 the questions on a test right get you anything?

Pure white is very hard to come by in a nation where 90% of the popultion is mixed race, and where interracial marriage is encouraged, if not an unspoken law. With immigrants from China, the Middle East, Europe, and everywhere in between flowing in, racial bounderies have been almost erased. Most simply call themselves "Bonstocknian" which means a various mixture of East Asian, Arab, and European.

And whites arent referred to as white. Its considered a racial slur. "European Bonstocknian" is considered politically correct.

I suggest you live with mixed or other race reporters. There aren't enough pure European Bonstocknians to go around.
Communist Mississippi
04-08-2004, 20:39
Pure white is very hard to come by in a nation where 90% of the popultion is mixed race, and where interracial marriage is encouraged, if not an unspoken law. With immigrants from China, the Middle East, Europe, and everywhere in between flowing in, racial bounderies have been almost erased. Most simply call themselves "Bonstocknian" which means a various mixture of East Asian, Arab, and European.

And whites arent referred to as white. Its considered a racial slur. "European Bonstocknian" is considered politically correct.

I suggest you live with mixed or other race reporters. There aren't enough pure European Bonstocknians to go around.


Under CM law, race mixers are stoned to death or hanged the second their sin is confirmed. (We have about 20,000 race mixers lynched or stoned to death per year)

Well you'll have to find 1 or 2.

I cannot guarantee the safety of anybody who goes to Angola or Libya (regardless of race, those lands are dangerous now)

Occ- I cannot guarantee the safety of any non-white who attempts to enter Mississippi herself, or Tennessee, or Kentucky, or Ohio, or Indiana (Our North American lands). Indeed I can almost guarantee with certainty, that any non-white who enters into a CM territory in North America, will quickly become a dead non-white.
Kahta
04-08-2004, 22:26
And this, of course, is godmodding of the worst kind. Assuming that a surprise attack is made by a competent RPer who doesn't godmod himself in that attack, I don't see how you can simply 'ignore' the attack and still consider yourself a decent and respectable RPer. If you support NS being a realistic and challenging world at all, you have to allow surprise attacks being made on your nation (especially if you've garnered the sort of reputation you have, CM). Anything else, and you're a hypocrite. I don't see how you can consider wars planned out to the last detail to be in the least bit fun. The reason that we roleplay is to compete, much as nations in RL do. Just doing your own thing is simply detrimental to that ideal.

Have you ever read his RP's?

The reason they are so good, and long, is because he plans them. Most people plan them, myself included.
The Parthians
04-08-2004, 22:47
Parthia would like to send several reporters to Mississippian Libya. We will allow the government to screen all media the reporters create and remove anything objectionable. (It's PNN, Parthian News Network, basically the government's puppet)
The Parthians
04-08-2004, 22:56
We find that homeland given to Libyan arabs to be sufficient.
DontPissUsOff
04-08-2004, 23:00
We are not pleased with the pathetic amount of space for the Arab population. Ghadamis to Triploli is much more acceptable.
Communist Mississippi
04-08-2004, 23:10
We are not pleased with the pathetic amount of space for the Arab population. Ghadamis to Triploli is much more acceptable.


Tripoli is the colonial capital and has 8 million whites living in it, unacceptable to give it up.
Muslimania
04-08-2004, 23:22
Communist Missisipi is Muslimania's enemy. Burn its flag, slaughter it's people, torture and kill its leaders, raze its buildings and spread salt amongst the ruined lands! The Gates of Hell have been swung open upon Communist Missisipi!
Communist Mississippi
04-08-2004, 23:24
Communist Missisipi is Muslimania's enemy. Burn its flag, slaughter it's people, torture and kill its leaders, raze its buildings and spread salt amongst the ruined lands! The Gates of Hell have been swung open upon Communist Missisipi!


I'm just going to pretend you don't exist, because you cannot spell, and you're a may nation with 4 posts!
Falastur
04-08-2004, 23:26
The Falasturian Government would like to add its voice to those who levy that Libyan Arabs deserve more land than the Mississippian Government proposes to give to them. The capital of Tripoli is not only the Colonial Capital of Mississippian Libya, but also the capital of the formerly-independant Libya. The idea that independance, even if only in part, should be discussed yet the focal point of Libya should be strictly off-limits in the talks is preposterous. The Libyans owned Tripoli and governed their state from there. The fact that you choose to do the same after seizing the state does not make it any less Libyan. Their peoples built that city, their peoples enlarged it and made it prosperous. They inhabited it, they governed from it. It is theirs. Tripoli, the central point of Libya, should be the first city offered back to the free Libyans. Not the last.
The Lightning Star
04-08-2004, 23:27
I'm just going to pretend you don't exist, because you cannot spell, and you're a may nation with 4 posts!

OOC: The Post had perfect spelling, CM. And hes larger than me, and you pay attention to me, dont you? But i agree on one thing, he doesnt seem to be well educated in the ways of the RP..
Communist Mississippi
04-08-2004, 23:29
The Falasturian Government would like to add its voice to those who levy that Libyan Arabs deserve more land than the Mississippian Government proposes to give to them. The capital of Tripoli is not only the Colonial Capital of Mississippian Libya, but also the capital of the formerly-independant Libya. The idea that independance, even if only in part, should be discussed yet the focal point of Libya should be strictly off-limits in the talks is preposterous. The Libyans owned Tripoli and governed their state from there. The fact that you choose to do the same after seizing the state does not make it any less Libyan. Their peoples built that city, their peoples enlarged it and made it prosperous. They inhabited it, they governed from it. It is theirs. Tripoli, the central point of Libya, should be the first city offered back to the free Libyans. Not the last.


We spent 2 trillion dollars to make Tripoli large enough to house 8 million whites. Certainly we cannot ask 8 million whites to move. There are 21 million arabs and 50 million whites total in Libya, without the 400 desalination plants, 20,000 miles of irrigation and water canals, and 50 massive lakes we built and stocked with water, none of Libya would be worth living in. We've also made 1 million+ commercial farms for white farmers.
DontPissUsOff
04-08-2004, 23:39
You can either ask eight million whites to move or find 20 million arabs being steadily given the means to move them. Or maybe the Tripoli colony would like a visit from the Navy? I'n sure it could be arranged. The arabs in Libya are growing ever more displeased with you, and have of late been requesting from us increasing support against the CM colonists. The events they describe to us - routine lynchings, shootings, etc of arabs for no reason other than being arabic - are being reported in our press. The people become increasingly disgusted with our lack of action.
The Lightning Star
04-08-2004, 23:39
We spent 2 trillion dollars to make Tripoli large enough to house 8 million whites. Certainly we cannot ask 8 million whites to move. There are 21 million arabs and 50 million whites total in Libya, without the 400 desalination plants, 20,000 miles of irrigation and water canals, and 50 massive lakes we built and stocked with water, none of Libya would be worth living in. We've also made 1 million+ commercial farms for white farmers.

But communist Mississippi, these people lived without those things for tens of thousands of years. There was once a rich culture there. how would you like it if Arabs came from across the sea and decided to turn your country into a desert? None of your relatives from other countries could visit, and non-Arabs/blacks were baisically "inferior". Do you not understand? These people wre perfectly content before your transformation, and i wouldnt be surprised if many Libyans who remember the old ways and days are angry that their culture is Metling away. This isnt jsut taking over land, you have subjected a foreign realm, with a culture much older than yours, and transformed it into a slave state. The only people who REALLY benefit from this are the corrupt whites, who treat non-whites like dirt. If only i was larger than you, i would inavde your nation and proclaim that every White who doesnt grovel to a non-white be shot. Of course id only end up shooting maybe 4,000 people, because your people would be scared to see a nation that doesnt grovel before their white supremacy and actually invaded your country and won. Of course, ill never be bigger than you, but there are nations here that ARE.
Communist Mississippi
04-08-2004, 23:41
You can either ask eight million whites to move or find 20 million arabs being steadily given the means to move them. Or maybe the Tripoli colony would like a visit from the Navy? I'n sure it could be arranged. The arabs in Libya are growing ever more displeased with you, and have of late been requesting from us increasing support against the CM colonists. The events they describe to us - routine lynchings, shootings, etc of arabs for no reason other than being arabic - are being reported in our press. The people become increasingly disgusted with our lack of action.


If you haven't realized, Libya has issues with white rebellions, the white CM government only controls Benghazi and New Jackson City. We are working on crushing the rebels. We will work out a permanent peace solution that is acceptable and fair to both whites and arabs as soon as Libya is admitted back into the Empire (It is under a secessionst government right now).

Occ- DPUO, get on msn fer a while :D
Communist Mississippi
04-08-2004, 23:42
But communist Mississippi, these people lived without those things for tens of thousands of years. There was once a rich culture there. how would you like it if Arabs came from across the sea and decided to turn your country into a desert? None of your relatives from other countries could visit, and non-Arabs/blacks were baisically "inferior". Do you not understand? These people wre perfectly content before your transformation, and i wouldnt be surprised if many Libyans who remember the old ways and days are angry that their culture is Metling away. This isnt jsut taking over land, you have subjected a foreign realm, with a culture much older than yours, and transformed it into a slave state. The only people who REALLY benefit from this are the corrupt whites, who treat non-whites like dirt. If only i was larger than you, i would inavde your nation and proclaim that every White who doesnt grovel to a non-white be shot. Of course id only end up shooting maybe 4,000 people, because your people would be scared to see a nation that doesnt grovel before their white supremacy and actually invaded your country and won. Of course, ill never be bigger than you, but there are nations here that ARE.



CM was living under a non-white occupation prior to the Fabus regime coming to power:


Accomplishments of Premier Fabus from December 1984 onwards.

Curtis Fabus 1961-

Premier from 1984-

1) White unemployment was 60% as outsourcing had ruined the economy and foreigners snatched up the remaining jobs. 1 year after he took power, white unemployment was 4%.

2) Taxes on whites were 90% before he came to power. 1 year after he took power, taxes on whites were 60%.

3) There were over 300,000 black on white rapes and over 50,000 black on white murders per year before Fabus came to power. The week after he came to power, the black on white crime rate dropped to virtually nonexistent

4) There were no free elections the year before he came to power. 1 year after he came to power, he allowed people to vote for local officials.

5) There were total gun bans for a few years before he came to power. After he came to power all gun regulations were declared null and void.

6) Before he came to power the nation had a weak army of less than 1 million. After he came to power, it grew and grew, eventually growing to 17 million in the army, and large numbers in the air force and navy.

7) Before he came to power, the armed forces were 70% non-white, despite non-whites only being 8% of the nation, the government used them to lord it over the white majority. It was a tyranny of the minority. The day his power was made official, the armed forces became 100% white. (He disbanded most of the armed forces, used the 4 elite white parachute divisions, the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th, to form the core of the new army and then he made the white militias and paramilitaries the new soldiers for the new army, the militias from his home city were spent 12 months training and became the first regiment of Republican Guard, which was later expanded to a full division, and then a full corps, then 2 corps, and to where it is today, over 70 divisions.

8) He saved the environment and made the water drinkable. Before he came to power the old joke was, "How did he kill himself? He drank a glass of water."
Also most species were on the endangered list. A year after he came to power the water was so clean you could see the bottoms of rivers, and it was so safe to drink the premier drank it right from the rivers to demonstrate to the people it was safe.

9) He made the trains run on schedule. Before he came to power trains were often 1-2 weeks late. After he came to power they were either 30 seconds early or right on time.

10) The previous government allocated only about 100 dollars per year per white student, believing that whites weren't important enough to educate. Although whites still better on all standardized tests because parents felt enough responsibility for their kids to teach them at home in their spare time. After Fabus took power, the government spent an average of 20,000 dollars per year per white student.

11) Fabus allowed the national anthem to be legalized. The previous government said nationalism was dangerous. Fabus disagreed.

12) Fabus allowed children to fly kites. The previous government said that kite flying distracted children from important things, such as working the fields and factories.

13) Fabus allowed free marriage between white males and white females. The previous government had set limitations on the numbers of marriage licenses issued to white couples as an attempt to stop whites from having babies.

14) Fabus allowed citizens the right to be secure in their own homes. The previous government declared that all citizens must stand ready to accept non-white refugees into their homes whenever called upon to do so. Fabus scrapped that idea and as a matter of fact, he scrapped the whole idea of non-white refugees. (The previous government had only allowed non-whites into the nation, Fabus reversed it and only allowed whites)

15) Despite being less than 1/10 of 1 percent of the nation, the jews controlled 60% of the 500 seats in the congress and they controlled 52% of the wealth in the nation. They also owned 6 of the 8 major national news media networks. The day after Fabus came to power, the Jews lost all 6 of their news networks and every Jew was expelled from congress. Also they eventually had their ill-gotten gains seized by the government and given to the white workers whose pension funds they had looted. (It was a common practice in Pre-Fabus Mississippi for a Jewish CEO or a Masonic CEO to loot a company of the pension fund and then use his clout to see the attorney general never brought charges against him)

16) Fabus banned the masons, the illuminati, the skull and bones, etc. Before Fabus, it was determined that the president, vice president, the entire supreme court, and 30% of congress were involved in some sort of Masonic or other secret society. Fabus ended all of that and the Masonic lodges were turned into after-school centers for youths to stay off the street and do something constructive.

17) While real Mississippians fell into poverty and hardships, immigrant Jews amassed fabulous fortunes. But not through hard work and honest methods. But through usury, swindling, and fraud. One Jewish CEO had looted his company for 27 billion dollars. Another had declared bankruptcy 4 times, each time he would then establish a new company, but to those he owed debts, they were wiped out when the debts went unpaid. A Masonic CEO looted his company for 15 billion dollars, and then he fled to Panama.

18) Before Fabus came to power, the government had no real victories in war to be proud of. Except those operations that the 4 white parachute divisions had won, but then the politicians had wasted the victories away. After Fabus came to power, people could proudly say, "I'm a Mississippian."

19) Before Fabus came to power, Mississippi had been under the limitations of a brutally oppressive foreign imposed treaty. Fabus true to his words "I shall tear the bloody thing asunder", did so, approximately 36 months after he came to power he unveiled that CM had a biological and chemical weapons program (in violation of the treaty) but it was so massive nobody dared challenge him. He also announced his intentions to put millions of men into uniform. He also announced he intended to eventually reassert Mississippian control over the DMZ along the Mississippi-Tennessee border. (Mississippi under the previous government had lost a war to Tennessee and 4 other states, and the Mississippi Tennessee border was demilitarized) When Fabus finally marched troops into the DMZ about 6 years after he came to power, nobody did anything about it.
Falastur
04-08-2004, 23:43
You asked the entire population of Libya to accomodate your own citizens. We see no reason why your own citizens cannot be asked to accomodate the population of Libya.

We apologise, but no matter how much money you have spent, the means do not warrant the return. You simply cannot buy another country, just because you have invested in it. Geopolitics simply do not work like that. If it did, then we could buy out your country - or at least a large portion of it - quite easily. But we doubt you would see that as legal. For the same reasons, we do not see your reason as a fair and just one. If you chose to spend obscene amounts of money on a city, that is your perogative, but that will never change the fact that Tripoli is Libyan.
Communist Mississippi
04-08-2004, 23:43
But communist Mississippi, these people lived without those things for tens of thousands of years. There was once a rich culture there. how would you like it if Arabs came from across the sea and decided to turn your country into a desert? None of your relatives from other countries could visit, and non-Arabs/blacks were baisically "inferior". Do you not understand? These people wre perfectly content before your transformation, and i wouldnt be surprised if many Libyans who remember the old ways and days are angry that their culture is Metling away. This isnt jsut taking over land, you have subjected a foreign realm, with a culture much older than yours, and transformed it into a slave state. The only people who REALLY benefit from this are the corrupt whites, who treat non-whites like dirt. If only i was larger than you, i would inavde your nation and proclaim that every White who doesnt grovel to a non-white be shot. Of course id only end up shooting maybe 4,000 people, because your people would be scared to see a nation that doesnt grovel before their white supremacy and actually invaded your country and won. Of course, ill never be bigger than you, but there are nations here that ARE.


Well the people of my nation are un-reconstructed, so your terror campaign would fail just as miserably as the RL terror campaign by scalawags and carpetbaggers failed.
DontPissUsOff
04-08-2004, 23:46
Thank you very much for the propaganda piece. We asume Mr. Mladic was behind that one. Now please address the issue. Your abuse of the arabs prior to the rebellion in the Libyan colonies must be addressed. We are receiving information indicating that the arabs are still on the receiving end of white oppression, and as we have said, such reports cannot go ignored forever. Even once you have finished quelling the rebellion, we expect these to continue, and this is not tolerable.
Communist Mississippi
04-08-2004, 23:46
You asked the entire population of Libya to accomodate your own citizens. We see no reason why your own citizens cannot be asked to accomodate the population of Libya.

We apologise, but no matter how much money you have spent, the means do not warrant the return. You simply cannot buy another country, just because you have invested in it. Geopolitics simply do not work like that. If it did, then we could buy out your country - or at least a large portion of it - quite easily. But we doubt you would see that as legal. For the same reasons, we do not see your reason as a fair and just one. If you chose to spend obscene amounts of money on a city, that is your perogative, but that will never change the fact that Tripoli is Libyan.

Prior to the Fabus regime coming to power in CM, there were over 50 million non-whites in a land of 800 million whites (Mississippi had about 850 million people then) The 50 million non-whites were portrayed as gods by popular culture, and the whites were bashed into submission and vilified. Well we had to take millions of immigrants into our land because it was the "Right thing to do", so now we are sending our people to other lands to boost their "Diversity". We noticed Libya didn't have anybody else except Arabs, so we sent another group (whites) so they don't have to worry about a lack of diversity now. :D
Phallanx
04-08-2004, 23:46
Nobody will be "Exploding" anything in my country, that is terrorism. I will not allow that.

OOC: i look on this in despair for several reasons

1) a nation of the size of CM annexing a larger area of territory than should be possible also most of it is desert.

2) do you think ammerica said i know lets let terrorists "Explode" things before september the 11th

3) CM's massivly racist policy towards everone but white cristians. i would like to know how you propose to put the population of a whole country into an area of 130 miles by 130 miles that equals 16900 sq miles as opposed to 678,400 sq miles currently. if you havn't already killed off a large number of them which wouldn't surprise me in the least
Falastur
04-08-2004, 23:47
Well the people of my nation are un-reconstructed, so your terror campaign would fail just as miserably as the RL terror campaign by scalawags and carpetbaggers failed.

OOC: Errm....sorry, but...."unreconstructed"? What?
Communist Mississippi
04-08-2004, 23:48
Thank you very much for the propaganda piece. We asume Mr. Mladic was behind that one. Now please address the issue. Your abuse of the arabs prior to the rebellion in the Libyan colonies must be addressed. We are receiving information indicating that the arabs are still on the receiving end of white oppression, and as we have said, such reports cannot go ignored forever. Even once you have finished quelling the rebellion, we expect these to continue, and this is not tolerable.


We will deal with everything in a manner fair and acceptable to both groups.

There will be a popular vote held in Libya to determine how things shall go.

Also there will be a representative from the CM empire, a representative from the Libyan arabs, and a representative from the Colonial Government, each will have 1 vote and they will vote on matters that need to be decided.
Communist Mississippi
04-08-2004, 23:49
We will find a solution that the 47 million white colonists and the 16 million arabs can all find acceptable.
DontPissUsOff
04-08-2004, 23:50
This will amost certainly result in a result in CM's favour every time, which is not acceptable. You, Mr. Mladic, do not seem to understand. People are getting tired of your country and its' policies. They are attempting to persuade you to change your ways, rather than have them changed for you, and yet you think you can play them all for suckers and still have your own way.
Falastur
04-08-2004, 23:51
Prior to the Fabus regime coming to power in CM, there were over 50 million non-whites in a land of 800 million whites (Mississippi had about 850 million people then) The 50 million non-whites were portrayed as gods by popular culture, and the whites were bashed into submission and vilified. Well we had to take millions of immigrants into our land because it was the "Right thing to do", so now we are sending our people to other lands to boost their "Diversity". We noticed Libya didn't have anybody else except Arabs, so we sent another group (whites) so they don't have to worry about a lack of diversity now. :D

Your argument seems to miss the vitally important fact that not only are you "diversifying" other countries, you are annexing them and taking their ability and right for self-government. Now that you have done this, you are acting as if you have the right to govern their states. Simply put, you don't have that right. Just as it happened to you before does not mean that you are morally obliged to get your revenge. That you chose to is despicable and deplorable.
Communist Mississippi
04-08-2004, 23:59
"The amount of land we have slated for the arabs is very generous and they would be wise to accept it." Paul Stahlecker, Minister of Foreign Affairs.
The Lightning Star
05-08-2004, 00:03
Representative of the Nation of Communist Mississippi, you tell us your own nation was once ruled by a racist government such as your own. Tell me, did suddenly the phrase "Two wrongs dont make a right." recently become "Two Wrongs make the world better"? Your nation knows what its like to be under a racist facist dictatorship. You know the suffering. That is what the people you subdue feel. You have created one of the Worst Empires in the world (and yes, even though you are a kingdom you have an Empire. Like the English). It is an Empire that rules through fear, hate, and anger. Such a nation can only destroy others, and eventually lead to the destruction of yourself. We are trying to help YOU, although you are too short sighted and power-corrupt to see it.
Communist Mississippi
05-08-2004, 00:05
Representative of the Nation of Communist Mississippi, you tell us your own nation was once ruled by a racist government such as your own. Tell me, did suddenly the phrase "Two wrongs dont make a right." recently become "Two Wrongs make the world better"? Your nation knows what its like to be under a racist facist dictatorship. You know the suffering. That is what the people you subdue feel. You have created one of the Worst Empires in the world (and yes, even though you are a kingdom you have an Empire. Like the English). It is an Empire that rules through fear, hate, and anger. Such a nation can only destroy others, and eventually lead to the destruction of yourself. We are trying to help YOU, although you are too short sighted and power-corrupt to see it.


CM citizens of the empire don't want the sort of help you're offering. Today you "Help" us out of Libya, tomorrow you "Help" 100 million non-white immigrants settle in Jackson City in Mississippi herself. We will never abandon our immigration laws, we will never abandon our industrial protective tariffs!
DontPissUsOff
05-08-2004, 00:06
The arabs would be insulting themselves if they were to accept your pithy proposal. You insult the other nations on their side by attempting to foist this upon them.
DontPissUsOff
05-08-2004, 00:07
And you may never abandon them, but you would be well advised to abandon your little empire before you are crushed beneath it.
Falastur
05-08-2004, 00:09
"The paltry amount of land offered to the Arabs is a totally unacceptable offer. I urge you to use every diplomatic method to better the deal for the Libyans considerably, Minister. The total independance of all of Libya should be the first offer you make to the Mississippian Government. Even if full independence cannot be achieved, I will not see their country reduced to a shadow of its former self while CM hungrily gobbles up virtually the entire land mass. 7,500 sq. miles in a country of 1,750,000 is NOT a deal I believe fair."

Part of the briefing given to the Governmental negotiators - the Minister for Foreign Diplomatic Relation and his staff - by the Falasturian Imperial Regent (think President).
Communist Mississippi
05-08-2004, 00:09
Paul Stahlecker, acting under the authority of Acting Premier Joseph Mladic, is issuing the following secret ultimatum to Libyan arab community leaders:


"The arab people will accept the land deal and then we will move sufficient soldiers into Libya to crush the rebellion of the whites and we will also protect you from the aggression of colonists should any occur. If you do not accept this offer, we will pull ouy all Imperial forces out and you can talk it over with millions of angry armed colonists."
Communist Mississippi
05-08-2004, 00:10
I will draw a map up to allow them even more land, fine!
The Lightning Star
05-08-2004, 00:10
CM citizens of the empire don't want the sort of help you're offering. Today you "Help" us out of Libya, tomorrow you "Help" 100 million non-white immigrants settle in Jackson City in Mississippi herself. We will never abandon our immigration laws, we will never abandon our industrial protective tariffs!

We only wish to stop you from binding yourself to your doom. if you continue these racist activites, eventually you will end up calling only "Whites from Mississippi" Pure, and then your people will see its foolishness, and eventually lead to the end of your corrupt empire, but only after millions(and maybe evena billion) people die. Such wars about religion and faith can desimate entire populations (trust me on this, i just had a mostly religious civil war and more than 120 million people are dead.. out of a population of 260 million).
Communist Mississippi
05-08-2004, 00:11
Start where the Algerian/Libyan/Niger borders intersect, and go straight up to Zuwaraha, all land west of this line.
Communist Mississippi
05-08-2004, 00:12
If you do not protect the arabs, WE will protect the arabs, and if protecting the arabs means flattening the CM colonists inch by inch from the air, sea and ground then we will do it. Mladic, you are a poor politician indeed. You are trying to be aggressive to and dictate the actions of powers that put you or us very much in the shade.


Secret telegram!
DontPissUsOff
05-08-2004, 00:14
Ah bollocks! Sorry man :D
The Lightning Star
05-08-2004, 00:14
If you do not protect the arabs, WE will protect the arabs, and if protecting the arabs means flattening the CM colonists inch by inch from the air, sea and ground then we will do it. Mladic, you are a poor politician indeed. You are trying to be aggressive to and dictate the actions of powers that put you or us very much in the shade.

If this were to happen after my nation recovers from our bloody civil war i recently mentioned, we will deffinetl send in a lare amoun of soldiers to aid in the invasion. And i will try to put as many non-whites into the brigades i would send to attack you as humanly posible.
Falastur
05-08-2004, 00:14
Start where the Algerian/Libyan/Niger borders intersect, and go straight up to Zuwaraha, all land west of this line.

That is still only 37,500 sq. miles, give or take. We believe the Arabs deserve full independance, and you spit on the notion with this offer? We ask the Mississippian Government to consider the offer of cutting their losses and retreating fully from Libya. It is in your best interests, and the best interests of the Libyans.
DontPissUsOff
05-08-2004, 00:16
Quite. It is especially in the best interests of the Mississippian regime to abandon these foolish ventures, immediately.
The Lightning Star
05-08-2004, 00:18
Start where the Algerian/Libyan/Niger borders intersect, and go straight up to Zuwaraha, all land west of this line.

While it seems that our nations have confronted you to force you to give the arabs land, we have really conversed here today to try to make you stop your cruel and evil practises. Your nation is like the Facist Nation of Nazi Germany of yore. You look like you give the oppressedliving space and then you move in and kill them all. You will eventually reach your limit, and once you breach that limit, all hell will rain upon you. Already many members of meting have promised that if you continue these barbaric practises, they will attack you. You may have a large peopulation, but united, we nations who oppose you number in the billions. We only ask that you stop your racist policies and recognize that ALL MEN(which refers to humans) ARE CREATED EQUAL.
Dor-Galen
05-08-2004, 00:19
Dor-Galen has descided to prevent this needed bloodshed at all costs, for it hurts all and helps none, for i can support neither and i want peace, i propose a treaty, on my ship, Intimidator, for peace negotiaitons
Falastur
05-08-2004, 00:19
Secret communique to Libyan community and national leaders:

We pledge full support to you in your desire for freedom. While we will not move to in any way invade Libya for its independence, nor act covertly and illegally to damage its Mississippian governing, we will step in to anything the Mississippians do to suppress you, mentally or physically. We also pledge to offer military support to you in the form of a Protectorate status (note: this does not involve any form of subservience to us) to any part of Libya freed from CM rule, as well as financial and diplomatic aid, for as long as you deem it necessary, if you wish to accept our offer.

We will do our best to fight for what is best for you in our dealings with CM.
Communist Mississippi
05-08-2004, 00:20
We only ask that you stop your racist policies and recognize that ALL MEN(which refers to humans) ARE CREATED EQUAL.


"You ask me to tell my people what to believe? Fine, you can have all the non-white "equals" that you want, let them move to your land." Joseph Mladic
Falastur
05-08-2004, 00:21
Dor-Galen has descided to prevent this needed bloodshed at all costs, for it hurts all and helps none, for i can support neither and i want peace, i propose a treaty, on my ship, Intimidator, for peace negotiaitons

We offer you our word. There will be no bloodshed unless the Mississippians force it upon us.

OOC: In other words, we aren't fighting :) (Not yet, at least)
Falastur
05-08-2004, 00:23
"You ask me to tell my people what to believe? Fine, you can have all the non-white "equals" that you want, let them move to your land." Joseph Mladic

We will accept any refugees who come to us, but we will not accept their forced transferal from a country which is rightfully theirs, if that is what you are proposing.

Edit: whoops...that post was to Lightning Star. Meh, the comment still stands.....
The Lightning Star
05-08-2004, 00:24
"You ask me to tell my people what to believe? Fine, you can have all the non-white "equals" that you want, let them move to your land." Joseph Mladic

You say your nation is christian, correct? God HIMSELF states that all men are created equal. And our nation would be glad to accept any of the oppressed from your nation move to ours. Our people suffer as well, but we will do what we best can to give our Human brothers a helping hand. They ccan go to either our African Member states of Botswana or Mozambique, or to the Muslim Member state of Pakistan.
Communist Mississippi
05-08-2004, 00:24
We will accept any refugees who come to us, but we will not accept their forced transferal from a country which is rightfully theirs, if that is what you are proposing.


"No, I was suggesting you open your doors wide and take in every piece of Chadian, Ethiopia, Somalian, etc, trash that comes your way. We have shut our doors tight against such trash. Any leaky boat of non-white refugees that enters CM waters is given fair warning and time to leave, any that continue on are sunk. As has been policy for the last 20 years." Joseph Mladic, acting Premier.
Communist Mississippi
05-08-2004, 00:26
You say your nation is christian, correct? God HIMSELF states that all men are created equal. And our nation would be glad to accept any of the oppressed from your nation move to ours. Our people suffer as well, but we will do what we best can to give our Human brothers a helping hand. They ccan go to either our African Member states of Botswana or Mozambique, or to the Muslim Member state of Pakistan.


"Actually God said, "I separate the Israelites from the other races, and I make them holy. Our nation being True Israel, we are the holy people of Yahweh!" Joseph Mladic, acting Premier.
DontPissUsOff
05-08-2004, 00:28
My, my, Mladic. you are without doubt the worst statesman we have ever encountered. You still don't understand, do you? All you have done in invading North Africa is to cut yourself and create a festering wound, and if not addressed that wound will kill you. You can no more suppress the cry of the Libyans, or any of the other Africans, for freedom, than you can stop the rotation of the earth. It will strike down your empire, and it may strike down your nation. Remove it now and stop - or slow down - the rot that is beginning to creep in.
The Lightning Star
05-08-2004, 00:30
"No, I was suggesting you open your doors wide and take in every piece of Chadian, Ethiopia, Somalian, etc, trash that comes your way. We have shut our doors tight against such trash. Any leaky boat of non-white refugees that enters CM waters is given fair warning and time to leave, any that continue on are sunk. As has been policy for the last 20 years." Joseph Mladic, acting Premier.

The people of these nations are not "trash" as you say. They are fellow humans. On the inside, all humans look the same. You should no because of how your nation (or government supported groups such as the CMB), has committed atrocities against mankind. Your populace will have seen more than enough of peoples insides.
Communist Mississippi
05-08-2004, 00:30
"I don't need to be told what to do by the likes of you. I take my orders from Almighty God! For God is great! You should purify your land of all sinners and establish a republic for the Greater Glory of God! Libya, Mississippian Egypt, Western Sahara, Angola, Ohio, Tennessee, Kentucky, Indiana, all are and all will remain part of the Mississippian Empire. We have founded an empire that will endure for ten centuries!" Joseph Mladic
Falastur
05-08-2004, 00:30
We would never accept "trash". Nations can look after their own litter problems.

On the other hand, we would accept humans. Immigrants have just as much right to live on this Earth as you and I, and they should by no means be called "trash". The mere fact that you would use this term clearly shows you have no understanding of the situation. No human who truely understands politics and rights would ever call humans "trash".

We ask you once more. You would save yourself a lot of hassle by merely removing yourself from Libya. Will you?
Communist Mississippi
05-08-2004, 00:31
The people of these nations are not "trash" as you say. They are fellow humans. On the inside, all humans look the same. You should no because of how your nation (or government supported groups such as the CMB), has committed atrocities against mankind. Your populace will have seen more than enough of peoples insides.

"CMB? What is that? A news station? Christian Music Broadcasting? Please tell me what is this CMB of which you speak." Joseph Mladic
The Lightning Star
05-08-2004, 00:33
My, my, Mladic. you are without doubt the worst statesman we have ever encountered. You still don't understand, do you? All you have done in invading North Africa is to cut yourself and create a festering wound, and if not addressed that wound will kill you. You can no more suppress the cry of the Libyans, or any of the other Africans, for freedom, than you can stop the rotation of the earth. It will strike down your empire, and it may strike down your nation. Remove it now and stop - or slow down - the rot that is beginning to creep in.

OOC: thats baisically what i said, so he wont listen. You have a better choice of words, though.

The Lightning Starian representative agrees with the Statment of DPUO's representative.
Communist Mississippi
05-08-2004, 00:34
We would never accept "trash". Nations can look after their own litter problems.

On the other hand, we would accept humans. Immigrants have just as much right to live on this Earth as you and I, and they should by no means be called "trash". The mere fact that you would use this term clearly shows you have no understanding of the situation. No human who truely understands politics and rights would ever call humans "trash".

We ask you once more. You would save yourself a lot of hassle by merely removing yourself from Libya. Will you?


"We cannot and we will not ask fifty million white people to uproot themselves and leave Libya. Libya will remain white today, white tomorrow, white forever!" Joseph Mladic.
The Lightning Star
05-08-2004, 00:35
"CMB? What is that? A news station? Christian Music Broadcasting? Please tell me what is this CMB of which you speak." Joseph Mladic

You know of what i Speak, mr Mladic. The accursed Christians Martyrs Brigade. We know that your statement to "keep them withing CM Borders" will not be upheld. Too many a nation has suffered at the hands of these soldiers of the devil. How can someone who represents someone who promotes peace do such horrible crimes against humanity?
DontPissUsOff
05-08-2004, 00:36
We were evidently incorrect. Mr. Mladic is not stupid, he is merely delusional and possibly psychotic. After all, who else would commit himself to working for the benefit of a non-existent entity? But anyway. I digress. Mladic, just get out. Nobody wants you there, you can't keep control there, you can't win there and you won't gain much from there. You are not invincible. Firebase Fabus, if you remember, was manned by the "best" of your men, and they lost to a guerrilla army. Do you think that you can simply remain there behind your overstated protection, when nations that far outperform and outdo yours in all aspects are amassing and waiting for the arabs to ask them to strike and their people's patienct to run out?
Falastur
05-08-2004, 00:36
"I don't need to be told what to do by the likes of you. I take my orders from Almighty God! For God is great! You should purify your land of all sinners and establish a republic for the Greater Glory of God! Libya, Mississippian Egypt, Western Sahara, Angola, Ohio, Tennessee, Kentucky, Indiana, all are and all will remain part of the Mississippian Empire. We have founded an empire that will endure for ten centuries!" Joseph Mladic

"The last Empire which proclaimed it would last for 1000 years lasted for in fact 12. Many empires have made this claim. Few have outlived their own creator by more than a year.

"As for the claim that you follow the word of God. Does He not repeatedly say, patricularly through Jesus, that he is offering all people who do not follow him the chance to be of his nation of Israel, merely by converting? Your society thrives on a policy of alienation of "lesser" beings. Where is the acceptance of those who wish to be true Mississippians?"
Communist Mississippi
05-08-2004, 00:37
You know of what i Speak, mr Mladic. The accursed Christians Martyrs Brigade. We know that your statement to "keep them withing CM Borders" will not be upheld. Too many a nation has suffered at the hands of these soldiers of the devil. How can someone who represents someone who promotes peace do such horrible crimes against humanity?

"Keep who in our borders? I don't know what you're talking about, there are no terrorists in any of our territories so there is nothing to keep inside anywhere. You are confusing me, are we talking about CM or Afghanistan? We do not sponsor terrorism." Joseph Mladic.
Communist Mississippi
05-08-2004, 00:39
"The last Empire which proclaimed it would last for 1000 years lasted for in fact 12. Many empires have made this claim. Few have outlived their own creator by more than a year.

"As for the claim that you follow the word of God. Does He not repeatedly say, patricularly through Jesus, that he is offering all people who do not follow him the chance to be of his nation of Israel, merely by converting? Your society thrives on a policy of alienation of "lesser" beings. Where is the acceptance of those who wish to be true Mississippians?"


"Only a white Christian can become a Mississippian. You can read our laws, you don't have to like them. But if you come to Mississippi or CM territory, you must respect our laws." Joseph Mladic
Falastur
05-08-2004, 00:39
"We cannot and we will not ask fifty million white people to uproot themselves and leave Libya. Libya will remain white today, white tomorrow, white forever!" Joseph Mladic.

It is really quite simple. All you need do is step into a microphone and say words similar to:

"Libya is not our country to govern. Any citizen who the Libyans accept may stay in their country. For the remainder, this is not our land, so we ask you to move."
Communist Mississippi
05-08-2004, 00:40
We were evidently incorrect. Mr. Mladic is not stupid, he is merely delusional and possibly psychotic. After all, who else would commit himself to working for the benefit of a non-existent entity? But anyway. I digress. Mladic, just get out. Nobody wants you there, you can't keep control there, you can't win there and you won't gain much from there. You are not invincible. Firebase Fabus, if you remember, was manned by the "best" of your men, and they lost to a guerrilla army. Do you think that you can simply remain there behind your overstated protection, when nations that far outperform and outdo yours in all aspects are amassing and waiting for the arabs to ask them to strike and their people's patienct to run out?


"500,000 guerillas defeated an initial force of 36,000 that was raised to 52,000. Even our best paratroopers need supplies. They were without food for the last 16 days of the siege and without water for the last 4 days. They were without ammunition for the last 12 hours, they fought hand to hand. They're great soldiers but they're not supermen." Joseph Mladic
Communist Mississippi
05-08-2004, 00:41
It is really quite simple. All you need do is step into a microphone and say words similar to:

"Libya is not our country to govern. Any citizen who the Libyans accept may stay in their country. For the remainder, this is not our land, so we ask you to move."


"I will not set foot in Libya, you ask the impossible. I will not set foot inside the continent of Africa, there are safety concerns you realize that." Joseph Mladic.
DontPissUsOff
05-08-2004, 00:41
So what do you think will happen, Mladic, when the world gets sick of your nation and decides to answer the arabs and kick it out of Libya?
Falastur
05-08-2004, 00:41
"Only a white Christian can become a Mississippian. You can read our laws, you don't have to like them. But if you come to Mississippi or CM territory, you must respect our laws." Joseph Mladic

So you admit that your laws are not based on the divine will of God?
Falastur
05-08-2004, 00:42
"I will not set foot in Libya, you ask the impossible. I will not set foot inside the continent of Africa, there are safety concerns you realize that." Joseph Mladic.

Use a TV camera then.
The Lightning Star
05-08-2004, 00:42
"Keep who in our borders? I don't know what you're talking about, there are no terrorists in any of our territories so there is nothing to keep inside anywhere. You are confusing me, are we talking about CM or Afghanistan? We do not sponsor terrorism." Joseph Mladic.

You insult the international community by making such statements! One who lies as much as much as you is not worthy to be a politician in suhc a large country.
Communist Mississippi
05-08-2004, 00:42
So what do you think will happen, Mladic, when the world gets sick of your nation and decides to answer the arabs and kick it out of Libya?

"Then the world will be a radiated crater. For if Mississippi's strategic position our her survival are ever seriously threatened, we will use any weapons we have in our possession." Joseph Mladic
Communist Mississippi
05-08-2004, 00:43
So you admit that your laws are not based on the divine will of God?


"Our law is based on the divine will of Yahweh almighty as taught by our Identity preachers." Joseph Mladic.
Communist Mississippi
05-08-2004, 00:44
Use a TV camera then.


"Yes, well my schedule is very busy now. I have too much to tend to. Anyway, I think we'll hold Libya for now, you take care." Joseph Mladic
Falastur
05-08-2004, 00:45
"Then the world will be a radiated crater. For if Mississippi's strategic position our her survival are ever seriously threatened, we will use any weapons we have in our possession." Joseph Mladic

Would you really do that? Bring about the end of your Empire and the lives of everyone in it just because you were unwilling to let up on one issue? Do you really value the integrity of your Empire more than common sense? Surely its better to lose one small area of the Empire than lose it all?
DontPissUsOff
05-08-2004, 00:45
Mladic, your nuclear arsenal is smaller than even ours, and yet you think you can take on the world? If You were ever foolish enough to use WMD, as we have warned you time and again, we would not hesitate to obliterate your little fascist hole from the face of the planet, even at price of our own devastation, simply because it would be a better place without you.