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For the second time in it's history, Doujin will host a large conference to discuss possible technologies and develop Naval tactics. The previous conference, hosted aboard the then largest Battleship in the world, the DN Behemoth, a Leviathon Class Battleship, will this time be hosted aboard the DN Doujin, the original Doujin Class Super-Dreadnought.

Nations who are being asked to attend:
All nations in the Organization of Maritime Powers
All nations in the Union of Progressive States
Dancing Moose
Sarzonia

If you are not on the list to attend, may you send representatives anyway? Since we are surrounded by water, we need to learn how to use our naval forces better. If we may not attend, we will not be offended.
-President Vale Odgers of the Armed Republic of Binthor

If you are not on the list to attend, may you send representatives anyway? Since we are surrounded by water, we need to learn how to use our naval forces better. If we may not attend, we will not be offended.
-President Vale Odgers of the Armed Republic of Binthor

Of course.

"DN Doujin, this is UV101 requesting permission to land, over," the pilot of the US101 VIP transport helicopter said over the guard frequency. In the back of the aircraft Neil Harding, the Minister of Foreign Affairs, as well as several strategists and intelligence officers, were gathering their things and preparing to disembark once the chopper landed on the Doujin's deck. Harding had been instructed to pay particular attention during this conference and to examine the use of super-dreadnoughts in the Veritasean Imperial Navy, despite the Ministry of the Navy's reluctance to use such vessels.

After receiving permission to land (I'm going to assume it was granted ;) ) the Veritasean delegation walked out of the aircraft and into the bright sunlight, reflecting slightly off the Doujin's deck.

To: Doujin Government
From: Prime Minister Bolash
Subject: Re: Naval Conference

The Commonwealth would be honored to attend this conference aboard the DN Doujin. Our representative will be one Chief Admiral McDowell to be arriving once permission is given. He will be arriving by helicopter from the GN Vigilant, alone if wished. We look forward to the illuminating discussion that is to take place.

Signed,
Prime Minister Terri Bolash
Commonwealth of Granzi

OOC: I believe Sarzonia is a member of the OMP?

*Prepares to send the NSSN-31 Tsunami II*

We would like to send our representatives, Admirals Chernenko and Ribalkin, to the conference aboard the MSS Krivaksky Komsomol. Please indicate if this is accepted.

Thank you. We will be sending our Commander of the Armed Forces, our Commander of the Navy, our Commander of the Coast Guard, our Commander of the Marines, and our Secretary of Defense. I have heard all about your great ships and your naval supremacy, and I think this will be a great conference.

Binthor has decided to send its president and vice president to the Doujin also. The list of who is attending is as follows:
President Vale Odgers
Vice President Ashe Williams
Secretary of Defense, Eric Kaldin
Commander of the Armed Forces, Amy Enfant
Commander of the Navy, Stephen Bedford
Commander of the Coast Guard, Cody Sanford
Commander of the Marines, Jose Carlos

May we attend, Admiral Lovie Smith is aboard the fast-attack Farragut class destroyer USS KANSAS COMET. He is the head of the IDF liasson office to Navies of the World. He would be honored if he were allowed to attend. He will bring some of IDF's best wine for the opening ceremony. He can be there by the start of the event. He may have to take a helicopter from the Destroyer to get there on time.

His main agenda will be concerning the development of super-Dreadnoughts and the fears that this is pre-WWI all over again. He would be thankfull if you allow him to attend. He also wants to discuss the future of rail-guns and the effect of the stealth-planes upon Naval aviation.

He will be open to discussion of other nation's agendas

May we attend, Admiral Lovie Smith is aboard the fast-attack Farragut class destroyer USS KANSAS COMET. He is the head of the IDF liasson office to Navies of the World. He would be honored if he were allowed to attend. He will bring some of IDF's best wine for the opening ceremony. He can be there by the start of the event. He may have to take a helicopter from the Destroyer to get there on time.

His main agenda will be concerning the development of super-Dreadnoughts and the fears that this is pre-WWI all over again. He would be thankfull if you allow him to attend. He also wants to discuss the future of rail-guns and the effect of the stealth-planes upon Naval aviation.

He will be open to discussion of other nation's agendas

I would prefer that it be not just one person, but many - The Empress will be there, and I would like the other nations having their leaders to get an up close and personal tour of the Doujin.

IDF, why do you want to participate in a conference headed by Doujin, when you're trying to form a Anti-Doujin alliance?

I think the saying is "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em." It might be changed to "If you can beat them at the price of insane cost and destabilisaion, or you can work with them, work with them" in this case.

I would prefer that it be not just one person, but many - The Empress will be there, and I would like the other nations having their leaders to get an up close and personal tour of the Doujin.
WE will send more Admirals, our Chief of Air Operations, Admiral Minnie Minoso, Chief of Subsurface Warfare, Admiral Josh Beckett, and Secretary of State, Kenny Williams. Our President, George Stanley Halas will be there (now who wants to guess where I get my names?)

IDF, why do you want to participate in a conference headed by Doujin, when you're trying to form a Anti-Doujin alliance?
The alliance isn't against Doujin, but anti Doujin Class alliance.

Defence Minister Paine shall be in attendance, along with Eric Falkenhayn, Minster of the Navy. They will be traveling aboard the Liberator-class battleship Glory.

We wish to know Doujin, how much security will there be? If the ship was attacked, considering the high importance of the people on board, it would be a hard blow to the nations that are attending.

I would like to send a rep!

He's going to have brown hair and a really heavy metal suitcase with really tight security locks on it that has a beeping coming out of it that sounds like a countdown timer from the bombs in movies. He'll then have to leave really fast due to a family emergency and all of a sudden the ship will blow up along with your empress, you, and all your followers hahahahah!

JUST KIDDING!

I'd like to send a real rep, heh. We're very curious about the interior of your ship.

CHardonay would be delighted if we could send a delegation of naval architects and officers to the conference. We are currently building up our navy and developing some new technologies and tactics, along with designing our very own relativly modest 130 kiloton Dreadnaught.

Admiral Gates is more than delighted to be returning to Doujin. He will arrive as soon as possible in a high security transport aircraft...he notes that this should be a most enjoyable experience, although he eyes IDF, a nation that was formerly viewed as worthy of Zoogie friendship, with suspicion.

He will be accompanied by aides and DENP officials (bodyguards) for security, if you do not mind...if you do, we'll ask the bodyguards to remain absent.

IDF, that's a rather negative pact. A pact to beat the Doujin rather than build your own ubership...I wonder...

For the second time in it's history, Doujin will host a large conference to discuss possible technologies and develop Naval tactics. The previous conference, hosted aboard the then largest Battleship in the world, the DN Behemoth, a Leviathon Class Battleship, will this time be hosted aboard the DN Doujin, the original Doujin Class Super-Dreadnought.

Nations who are being asked to attend:
All nations in the Organization of Maritime Powers
All nations in the Union of Progressive States
Dancing Moose
Sarzonia

[OOC: I think I'm already in the OMP so why am I being mentioned separately? If I've been removed from the OMP, I would have appreciated being notified as that process was underway.]

IC: Due to our currently strained relations with Doujin, I am uncertain why we are being asked to attend the conference. We would like the government of Doujin to provide us with the reason for the invitation.

I would prefer that it be not just one person, but many - The Empress will be there, and I would like the other nations having their leaders to get an up close and personal tour of the Doujin.

In that case, Prime Minister Bolash, Foreign Minister Nathanial Sun, High Admiral Howard, among others will be attending.

We will of course send several representatives, including the Emperor. However, this is contingent upon our ability to bring a battle group as an extra layer of protection. While we don't doubt the Doujin Navy's ability to defend itself, having two member of the Imperial Family and several important naval leaders on board DN Doujin would probably make it an even more tempting target for the more hostile members of the Anti-Doujin coalition.

We will of course send several representatives, including the Emperor. However, this is contingent upon our ability to bring a battle group as an extra layer of protection. While we don't doubt the Doujin Navy's ability to defend itself, having two member of the Imperial Family and several important naval leaders on board DN Doujin would probably make it an even more tempting target for the more hostile members of the Anti-Doujin coalition.
1. I disbanded it and 2. It was anti-Doujin class, not Anti-doujin the nation.
3. Besides my president and other high ranking people will be there so why would I do anything

((May I ask why I am being singled out to attend? If you got on AIM we could talk alot easier....))

How far in is this doujin going to be from your nation's sea borders? For example, my new battleship has an insanely long range railgun with scope on it, 1,200 mile range. How do you know your conference isn't safe from this type of weaponry, or armed satellites?

We ask for permission to parade around our Ozzie Guillen II class Super-dreadnought USS OZZIE GUILLEN. tours will be available for all. We are proud of our 1st trimarian

Praetonia shall send Prime Minister Augustus Julianus, Minister of Defence Lucius Tiberius, Grand Admiral Maximus Terpus (CiC naval forces) and the Praetonian Ambassador to the OMP Lucius Lucundus. They will travel aboard the flagship of the 1st fleet, the PWS Omega. This will be escorted by the first fleet, which will not enter Doujin waters. Thankyou for the invitation to this prestigious conference.

Where exactly is Doujin located?

La Repubblica d'Agrigento will gladly send Admiral Balducci, CINC 2nd Fleet, the head of the Admiralty and Secretary of the Navy, as well as some military contractors from the AgCorp Martitme division to represent our nation in this conference.

How far in is this doujin going to be from your nation's sea borders? For example, my new battleship has an insanely long range railgun with scope on it, 1,200 mile range. How do you know your conference isn't safe from this type of weaponry, or armed satellites?


How do YOU know your country isn't safe from my blockade fleets, my ICBM's, my bombers, my Marines, or my SpecOps teams?

La Repubblica d'Agrigento will gladly send Admiral Balducci, CINC 2nd Fleet, the head of the Admiralty and Secretary of the Navy, as well as some military contractors from the AgCorp Martitme division to represent our nation in this conference.

Wow, long time no see Agrigento.

How do YOU know your country isn't safe from my blockade fleets, my ICBM's, my bombers, my Marines, or my SpecOps teams?
Don't be an idiot. I was merely saying if another country did something similar, it could be dangerous. My nation's president will be personally attending the conference.

But also, yes my country is quite safe from all of that. The only part that matters is sitting hundreds of feet underground through six foot thick ultra-strong armor plating. Not to mention the whole defense grid and the immense magnetic forces around the base. It's can also be sealed off.

ooc: Perhaps the most powerful defensive system that will keep us safe is MAD...why would anyone risk attacking such a collection of naval power and angering so many powerful nations? The retaliation would most certainly wipeout any would-be nations attempts and wreaking havoc.

[OOC: What RL day is this conference supposed to take place? I'm RPing a funeral for one of my former government officials and I'd prefer not to have a scheduling conflict. ;)]

Don't be an idiot. I was merely saying if another country did something similar, it could be dangerous. My nation's president will be personally attending the conference.

But also, yes my country is quite safe from all of that. The only part that matters is sitting hundreds of feet underground through six foot thick ultra-strong armor plating. Not to mention the whole defense grid and the immense magnetic forces around the base. It's can also be sealed off.

And I was making the point that if someone did attempt a similar attack (or any kind of attack) they would then have all of that (plus a lot more) to worry about. It would hardly be worth it.

WE will send more Admirals, our Chief of Air Operations, Admiral Minnie Minoso, Chief of Subsurface Warfare, Admiral Josh Beckett, and Secretary of State, Kenny Williams. Our President, George Stanley Halas will be there (now who wants to guess where I get my names?)

[OOC: Gee... I wonder. ;)

Chicago White Sox, Florida Marlins, White Sox again? Your president is none other than the legendary Papa Bear Halas. :D

Huge sports fan in da house.]

His Majesty, King Viktor Sileetris XIII, will be in attendance along with a team of scientific representatives. They will arrive via Dropship.

OOC: IDF, I suggest that you withdraw that reward for the sinking of a Doujin before you attend this conference. It does not make the OMP look kindly upon your delegation.

Axis Nova requestes permission to send an observer.
Axis Nova

The Kingdom of Crookfur will of course be gracing this august assembly with a delagation headed by HRH Colin II the pricne of the Covenant (crown prince) who is delighted at the prospect of once again being aboard a Doujin class as he was involved in an OMP exhange program (i think we all assume these run without any major RPing). He shall be accompanied by Admiral Hardcastle, Cheif of the joint officer corps, Fleet admiral Jackson, head of the Dept of Naval research and Fiona Jenkins the foreign minsiter.

They shall of course arrive in one of the riduclously upgraded Roc rotodynes on the royal flight.

((May I ask why I am being singled out to attend? If you got on AIM we could talk alot easier....))

(Again)

P.S.~ I will send someone of course.

(Again)

P.S.~ I will send someone of course.

[OOC: I was and still am wondering the same, especially since I'm supposed to be in the OMP (at least last I heard)

Being we, the AoE2 Region, a Region borned from the sea, the sons of Poseidon, the region who defeated the Evil Imperium of Lord Melkor in the seas and earned the title of the strongest navy in NS and that has been proving it since our foundation, we feel The AoE2 Regional Armada needs to enter into contact with other martime organisations.

Admiral Philip D´Orleans, The Person at charge of the AoE2 Regional Admiralty, will attend to this meeting, with a commitive of 5 persons, including 2 representants of the 2 biggest Maritime-related companies ("Seas of Grunge-France Company" Fishing and resource gathering Company and "Industrial Shipyards of Etagelieux Company", Who constructs 80% of the vessels used by the AoE2 Army), 1 representant of the "De la France Science Installations Company" and 2 marines for their personal protection.

Forgot to add, a representative of Hybalt Shipyards will be part of the Granzian delegation.

Presidential Villa, Canary Islands

The Prime Minister of the Freethinkers, Mr Theodur Barham, read the report as he lounged on the sunbed, yawning and wishing it wasn't quite so hot. He noted down a quick message and asked an aide to send it through to Naval command.

Official Communique

Doujin's holding a naval conference. Send Admirals' Fletcher and Cunningham as well as Deputy PM Rothschild. Better make sure these idiots..I mean, wonderful people,...don't do anything stupid. Keep me informed.

PTB

OOC: Way too hot here....way, way too hot....

[OOC: I think I'm already in the OMP so why am I being mentioned separately? If I've been removed from the OMP, I would have appreciated being notified as that process was underway.]

IC: Due to our currently strained relations with Doujin, I am uncertain why we are being asked to attend the conference. We would like the government of Doujin to provide us with the reason for the invitation.

I will not get on AIM, due to.. personal reasons. That said, Doujin has always come to the table to bring peace between Sarzonia and Doujin, and [I do believe] Dancing Moose and Doujin. However, it has always been Sarzonia and Dancing Moose that have shied away from Doujin, and worked against our nation. We come to you both once again in the face of peace, and leave it up to you to take up your part.

The conference will be protected by the 'Aegir' Fleet, the Hrafn Warband, the Rough Riders, the Nameless Armada, and Poseidon's Caller - essentially, the 5 largest aspects of the Doujin Navy.

Combined ship numbers of the Doujin protection detail:
17 Doujin Class Mk.2 Refit BBCN
5 Ocean Class Aircraft Carrier
10 Infusion Class Aircraft Carrier
20 Leviathon Class Battleships
25 Thunder Child Class Mk.2 Refit Battleships
25 Warspite Class SSGN
75 Astron Class SSN(Fast Attack Sub)
50 Tigershark Class AOE
38 River CLass AOE
38 Clan Grant Class AOE
50 Norasia Class AOE
105 Centaur Class DDG
50 Meteora Class DDG
50 Mackensen Class BBs
110 Broadsword Class Frigates
42 Africa Class Minesweeper/layer
35 Saviour Class Medical Ship

The Fleet Command will be always on the move, never in a stationary position to increase defense. Active sonar will be used constantly, seeing as stealth with this large a group is literally impossible - it is better to know who is coming when they come, if that happens.

Greetings to all
and may i congratulate you all on your accomplishment of building your respective armies.The Armed Republic of Inbhear Mor is rather small, however we do have rather advanced privatly funded industries. I wish to ask if the Armed Republic of Inbhear Mor may make an appearence at such an important occasion, as it seems that most if not all of the major super powers will be attending. The ARIM government and people wish to be a part of such an allience

currently TAI Inc. (Terrestrial armaments Industry Inc.) of ARIM is producing interesting scematics for Particle Shielding on small land craft,however TAI Inc. assure the government that in the next few years the technology could be used by any vessel.I would understand any sceptics,but there is not currently a working model of such technology,the best minds of TAI Inc. are on the project and are currently making progress towards a very basic model,nowhere near the actual finished project, but in keeping with the concept.however maybe once within the allience one of the member states will aid us in the development of the technology.which is certainly interesting you must admit

Yours most sincerely
Commander In Chief S.M.H

That said, Doujin has always come to the table to bring peace between Sarzonia and Doujin, and [I do believe] Dancing Moose and Doujin. However, it has always been Sarzonia and Dancing Moose that have shied away from Doujin, and worked against our nation. We come to you both once again in the face of peace, and leave it up to you to take up your part.

I believe I need to remind Doujin that his nation threatened Sarzonia with invasion during the military operation against Feazanthia when Sarzonia was a neutral party. In addition, Doujin's "overtures" of peace were made in such a way as to suggest that his government chose to threaten ours. That hardly suggests that Doujin has "always" offered peace to Sarzonia.

We scoff at the notion that Sarzonia has actively worked against your nation. We have made no secret of our distrust of your country, but we also have not worked to oppose you actively. [OOC: The one time I put in an RP of a guy who hated you, he was just a loony tune who was added to spice up the civil war plotline once it became apparent that there would be a civil war. That was NOT official government policy.]

Again, I ask you to provide our government your motivation for singling ours out for the conference when we supposedly are members of the Organization of Maritime Powers.

I believe I need to remind Doujin that his nation threatened Sarzonia with invasion during the military operation against Feazanthia when Sarzonia was a neutral party. In addition, Doujin's "overtures" of peace were made in such a way as to suggest that his government chose to threaten ours. That hardly suggests that Doujin has "always" offered peace to Sarzonia.

We scoff at the notion that Sarzonia has actively worked against your nation. We have made no secret of our distrust of your country, but we also have not worked to oppose you actively. [OOC: The one time I put in an RP of a guy who hated you, he was just a loony tune who was added to spice up the civil war plotline once it became apparent that there would be a civil war. That was NOT official government policy.]

Again, I ask you to provide our government your motivation for singling ours out for the conference when we supposedly are members of the Organization of Maritime Powers.

Sarzonia escalated the Feazanthian conflict to a level that would involve them, and then sent what was perceived a threat by all parties involved. Doujin simply gave the warning that your actions might bring unwanted consequences. Along with that, Doujin invited President Sarzo to the Imperial Palace to attempt to lower the tension between the two of us, and Sarzonia rejected this attempt. Again, Doujin restates that Sarzonia in the past has rejected our attempts to lower tensions between our nations - and we are attempting to lower those tensions once again.

OOC: IDF, I suggest that you withdraw that reward for the sinking of a Doujin before you attend this conference. It does not make the OMP look kindly upon your delegation.
It is gone since the group is gone

It is gone since the group is gone

Ah, but do such threats every really go away?

President Sarzo listened to the continued assertions by Doujin that it wanted to end the near cold war between the two peoples and shook his head.

"That asshole," he said. Just then, the doorbell rang.

"Come," Sarzo said. In walked his secretary Becky.

"Yes, Beck?"

"I have someone here to see you."

Sarzo raised his eyebrow. He didn't have anyone scheduled to meet with him at this hour. When he saw the guest, his jaw dropped.

"Susan!"

His best friend Susan had come all the way from Frederick in the north of Sarzonia to see him. The two embraced.

"So good to see you," Sarzo said.

"You too Mr. President."

"Please! We've known each other way too long. Call me Mike."

Susan laughed. "Sure Mike."

She saw the papers on Sarzo's desk with the information that Doujin was trying to extend an olive branch.

"They seem pretty serious about wanting to ease tensions," Susan said.

"I don't know, Susan," Sarzo began. "I don't trust them."

"Is that a reason to let this cold war continue," Susan asked. "Think about it. If they are being sneaky like you think they are and you catch them in a lie, you'll probably be able to do something about it. If they're not, do you really need to alienate someone who's a staunch ally of some of our closest allies?"

Sarzo shrugged.

"Mike, think about it. We turned the tide in that war against Cam III because we had support from an overwhelming number of countries. If Doujin does anything foolish, I'm sure we could get a number of countries to support us.

"The last thing we need -- the last thing you need is to have anyone else hate us."

Sarzo took a deep breath. He didn't know if she was right, but she sure made some good points. She knew a lot more about the political situation than most people who weren't in government because Sarzo trusted her with everything. She and Senior Vice President for Internal Affairs Nicole Lewis were his two closest friends and their advice was usually spot on. He picked up the invitation and stared at it for what seemed like an eternity.

Finally, he went to his computer.

To: Doujin
From: Sarzonia

We accept your invitation to the conference. I will bring Vice President for Defense Terrence Wilson, Navy Chief John Newman and possibly Admiral Marcus Patinkin to the conference with me.

Sarzo clicked "Send" and prayed he was doing the right thing.

The conference is to begin in two (RL) days. If delegations could begin arriving.. the Fleet Command is in International Waters.. incidently approximatly 1,500 kilometers North(or south, or whichever) of IDF (Because I don't know where else to park them, and I don't want them @ Doujin - I don't want people to feel pressured by being in Doujin).

The conference is to begin in two (RL) days. If delegations could begin arriving.. the Fleet Command is in International Waters.. incidently approximatly 1,500 kilometers North(or south, or whichever) of IDF (Because I don't know where else to park them, and I don't want them @ Doujin - I don't want people to feel pressured by being in Doujin).
South is all that would work since that 1,500 north of Israel is Russia, the position puts us in the Indian Ocean/

10 Valefor Fighters (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=343891) circle overhead as 3 dropships land on the Doujin's deck. The first two deposit troops clad in CEBA battle suits, the polish and decorations denoting their status as the royal guard. The troops assemble into a path and unfurl a blue, orange, and gold carpet between them. The final dropship lands and King Viktor Sileetris XIII(wearing a windbreaker and baseball cap)steps out.

"You boys need to clean those dropships out more, they smell like sweat and old shoes.....", he slaps one of the soldiers over the shoulder and continues, "...although I guess you guys can't smell it with those stuffy helmets on!"

His Majesty then removes his baseball cap, scratches his grey-haired head, and proceeds into the ship.

The USN(123) would like to a delegation to the conference, we know its short notice but we still hope you'll allow us to come.

The Minister of Foreign Affairs, Minister of Defense, and Sea Marshal (Basically Chief of Navy) will be there.

Western Asia would like to request permission to send at least a team of personnel and officials to observe the Doujini CNW. Western Asia is considering application to the OMP and would like to begin involvement with members of the group, many of which Western Asia has previously had very good relations with.

OOC: The Western Asian application to the OMP can be found here:
USWA Application (http://www.gaizme.com/omp/forums/viewtopic.php?p=497#497)

As a distinguishrd member of the OMP, we will be sending a small delegation of several Admirals and will include the Defence minister Ibrahim Zibari. Our nation is anxious to see such a vessel in the flesh, especially consdiering the attention it has recieved.

Raginsheep requests permission for us to attend the conference. 3 members from the Fleet Admiral's pivate staff and Vice-Fleet Admiral will be attending.

[Um, Seleetrist, I don't believe you were invited. And this is modern tech only.]

*The Liberator-class battleship Glory steamed up to about a half-mile away from the Doujin. Soon, a launch set off from the Glory, and headed for the Doujin. It was carrying Defence Minister Paine and Eric Falkenhayn, Minister of the Navy.*

[OOC: Since I'm going to have a funeral in Sarzonia on Friday RL, I think I'll have Sarzonia One transport all the attendees to the conference. Otherwise, I would have sent the Alliance-class supercruiser Endymion with the Sarzonian delegation.

It will include an Air Force escort if you don't mind, and the Endymion will be setting off to pick everyone up from the conference. That also gives it some time to get to the conference location since I think it would take longer than the few RL hours after the funeral.]

OOC: This is actually part of a separate thread, but I figured I'd post it here to, just to give everyone a heads-up. The link to the other thread is: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=6656718#post6656718

Approximately 45 miles to the east of the Doujin ships hosting the conference, two Veritasean Armadas will be conducting training excercises. This was planned before we were made aware of the conference, but should not cause any conflicts. We merely wished to make the other attendees aware of this. Following the end of the conference, the Veritasean delegation will be transported to one of the Armada's command ships to view the remainder of the exercise. Exact numbers for each Armada are listed below, should anyone be interested.

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High Chancellor Harding
The Naval Empire of Unum Veritas
Member: NAIA
Member: Band of Brothers
Member: Organization of Marine Powers (http://www.gaizme.com/omp/forums/index.php)
Vice President and Naval Commander: Legion of Defence (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2503299#2503299)
Owner: Veritasean Naval Industries Inc. (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=655745#655745)

Each Armada is composed of the following ships:
2 Elessar Class Supercarriers
4 Nimitz Class Carriers
3 Helicopter Assault Ships
2 Inchon Class Command Minesweepers
8 Avenger Class Minesweepers
14 Weathered Class Torpedo Boats
15 Fleet Defense Catamarans
50 Hovercraft Troop Transports
2 Mercy Class Hospital Ships
8 Seawolf Class Submarines
10 Virginia Class Future Attack Subs
5 Ohio Class SSGN’s
70 Hover Attack/Blockade Craft
3 Hovercraft Transport Ships
8 Hellfire Class Heavy Cruisers
15 Arleigh Burke AEGIS Class Destroyers
6 Zumwalt Class Destroyers
8 Ticonderoga Class Guided Missile Destroyers
25 Visby Class Stealth Corvettes
10 Oliver Hazard Perry Class ASW Frigates
3 Streetfighter Catamaran Littoral Combat Ships
8 Arsenal Ships
10 Iowa Class Modernized Battleships
40 Pegasus Hydrofoil Patrol Craft
12 Sea Shadow Stealth Catamaran Assault Ships
12 TAMD’s (Theatre Air/Missile Defence Ships)
6 AOE-6 Combat Logistics Vessels
3 Emory-Land Class Submarine tenders
6 AOE-1 Sacramento Class Fast Combat Support Ships

Aerial Assets:
20 X-29's (STOVL)
20 F-117 Nighthawks (CTOL)
40 UV-00 Archangels (CTOL)
30 UV-00 Archangels (VTOL)
30 UV-89 Phoenixes
30 F-35 Joint Strike Fighters (CTOL)
35 F-35 Joint Strike Fighters (VTOL)
30 F-22 Raptors (CTOL)
40 F-23 Black Widow II (STOVL)
35 F-23 Black Widow II (VTOL)
40 F-14E Ultra Tomcats
50 F/A-18 Super Hornets
10 AC-150 Tankers
10 CSA (ELINT, AEW, ASW, LOGISTICS)
30 EA-6D Prowlers
20 S-3B Vikings
30 Sea Kings VIP/ASW Helos
30 V-22 Osprey
20 AH-1J Sea Cobras
20 AH-1W Super Cobras
20 AH-64 Apache Attack Helos (folding rotor)
20 MH-53E Sea Dragons (mine countermeasures)
35 US101 Multirole Helicopters
35 CH-53 Sea Stallions
10 SH-3 SAR Helicopters
35 UH-1 Marine Corp Helicopters
35 AH-1 Marine Corp Helicopters

The chosen transport for the Aegian representantives was one of the greatest behemoth of the Earth, one Mammoth Battleship.

It set sailed from the Quozian port city of Lubren a few minutes ago and transports, besides its 6,500 crew and its weaponry –weaponry that it is not charged- the 5 representatives. Their destiny was the conference.

IDF would like to open the ceremony with a parade of ships.

IDF's parade will have
1 Yorktown CVN
2 Guillen BBDN
1 Arizona BBN
1 Iowa II BBN
2 Kirov II CGN
3 Ticonderoga II CG
4 Arleigh Burke DDG
5 Farragut DDG
1 Kidd DDG
2 Oliver Hazard Perry FFG
1 Grisha V CGN
3 Galaxy SSN
2 Seawolf SSN
1 688i SSN
1 Ohio SSGN

95 F-35Cs will do arial aerobatics

Doujin, i'm sure your aware that i'm a member of the Organization of Maritine Powers.

I'd like to attend please.

The The First Lord of the Admiralty (Admiral Sir Alan West) and Five other Captains will arrive on the HMS Fire Wall (Akira Class Battleship).

That is assuming I'm invited?

The people specifically mentioned and extended an invitation were people that Doujin felt should attend. Anyone else is more than welcome to attend the conference.

OOC: Who all here has their people on board? Just wanting to keep track. IDF? SS? UV?

The Prime Minister was aboard one of the Merlin Helicopters that had just left the GN Valiant. Just ahead, he could see the gigantic hulk that was the Doujin. Bolash turned back into the cabin and greeted his fellow delegates. "Nat, we're almost there!" he shouted to the Foreign Minister. The briefcases and digital pads were quickly picked up and stowed away.

The chopper slowly lowered onto the highly polished deck of the ship, as the Granzian delegation stepped down, led by the Prime Minister.

OOC: Who all here has their people on board? Just wanting to keep track. IDF? SS? UV?

[OOC: My folks will be leaving immediately following the funeral of Dave Forrest in another thread.]

Telegram: Special Delivery-For Doujin Leadership ONLY.

To those who are hosting the Naval Conference, the Order has heard much about your "Super-Dreadnought,' which, despite ours having a mere size advantage, outclasses our ships on an exponential order. Therefore, we will be sending several of our designers as well as former Lord-Commander of the Order, General Vance R. Kaerion and Commander of The Fleet, Admiral Piotr Naismith, to learn exactly where we went wrong in the design of the ONOS -Class SDNs.
Respectfully,
Lady-Commander of the Order, Major General Callies Ymirson

(OOC: If I'm not welcome I'll just escape using my magical post-modern jetpacks[sarcasm])

IC:

Crown Price Colin gazed down at the layered formation of the Doujin vessels as they stood silent and strong, highlighed by the bright sunlight reflecting from the sea (IIRC your ships are white?). As the massive rotodyne flashed overhead and began it's approach to the landing area Colin refelcted on this latest official mission. it was certainly more interesting than some, first the maiden voayage of the first 2 Princess class battleships had been a very enjoyable experience, thier sleak and deadly lines a reminder of his past as a naval officer. Along with the rest of the massive task group assembleing for alliance wide exercises they ahd put ona good show. But now a return to his first exchange posting as a junior naval liason was soemthing to savour esspecially when it was soemthing like the mighty Doujin itself...

Coded Transmission:
To: Doujin Government
From: Admiral Champlain, GN

The 2nd Battlefleet will be arriving at the conference area by [NS] noon tommorrow. This is to serve as transportation for the Granzian Delegation, after the conference is over, and a protective measure during the trip back.

Due to current situations in country, no McLeodian delegates will be able to attend the conference. However, we may have a handful of ships available nearby for security duty, as a member of the OMP, we feel obliged to provide something to this conference.

New Empire Oceanic States

Admiral Tenner, the previous attendee to the OMP conference, stood on the deck of a CVSN-91, the Corinth Dleroes. As one of the only ships of it's design, it was truly an amazing craft. Nearly 200 aircraft and subcraft sat in it's huge hull and flew on and off the deck as a S/V-14 Sea Eagle Supersonic VTOL descended onto the deck amid the sleeker and deadlier shapes of interceptors, fighters, and attack VTOLs and helicraft.

The admiral put on his cover, and stepped through the doorway of the wating 'Seagle' as the men called it. The gray aircraft hovered for a bit, and then moved to supercruise altitude, towards the Doujin. With the new QN Turbines installed, refueling was a minor concern.

If Tenner was in a mood for showing off, he would have arrived in the CVSN with a full battlegroup. No, if he really wanted to make a show, he would pull out one of those two incredibly expensive behemoths that rarely made an appearance in combat, the Angelus* class. The massive subs were the spiritual equivalent of the Doujin class, with engines more expensive than a carrier. Yes, supercavitating a submarine, a submarine carrier no less, with a formation of subfighters racing through the water in front of him.

That would be a show.

Alas, he was a man of modesty, and the government wasn't one so foolish to waste naval resources on showing off to an ally.

Nevertheless, Doujin and their navy never failed to show off, whether they wanted to or not. The sheer mass of the behemoth on the horizon made him realize just how powerful they were. The weapon that seemed like a WWII Kriegsmarine admiral's wet dream was no longer a paper tiger. It was there. And, he mused, in time two of them would be at home.

Thank God they were on his side.

OOC:
*Yes, my post 2040 tech navy has this. However, that was my focus last conference. This conference, it will be something a little more focused on Doujins... And something that will kill them.

Harrington noticed that the Emperor seemed to be enjoying his first time aboard an aircraft carrier immensely; the Imperium hadn't field carriers since he was a small child. Truthfully she'd never been on a dedicated aircraft carrier until three months ago when 4th Fleet had first received the [i]Sucellus, but she had done her best to learn the new doctrine and was now as fully versed in their use as any person in the Imperial Navy. She looked up at the large plasma screen that showed the position of he fleet and their charted waypoints and noticed that they were due to make their last turn soon. Almost on cue, the Captain turned to her and said, "Admiral Harrington, would you like to do the honors?"

Admiral Harrington's mouth twitched into an almost-smile at what she suspected was an unintentional play on her first name, "Thank you Captain, but I think I shall defer this one to Admiral Larsen."

The almond shaped eyes of the Emperor's daughter widened slightly, she had not commanded ships in nearly four years, "Th-thank you, Honor," visibly bringing herself under control she turned to the Captain and said, "Bring us to a heading of 315, right standard rudder."

"Heading 315, right standard rudder, Aye ma'am," the Captain acknowledged, pitching his voice in such a way that the person at the controls of the ship could hear him and obey instantly.

The ship shuddered slightly as speed bleed off into the turn, but it wasn't as violent as it would have been in a full-on combat turn. The ships in formation followed perfectly and the approach to the Doujinshi Navy ship Doujin had begun.


[I won't bore you with the helo landing and all that, just consider it standard fair with all the aforementioned people now aboard the Doujin and the battle group keeping station about 300 miles away from the Doujin.]

IDF would like to open the ceremony with a parade of ships.

IDF's parade will have
1 Yorktown CVN
2 Guillen BBDN
1 Arizona BBN
1 Iowa II BBN
2 Kirov II CGN
3 Ticonderoga II CG
4 Arleigh Burke DDG
5 Farragut DDG
1 Kidd DDG
2 Oliver Hazard Perry FFG
1 Grisha V CGN
3 Galaxy SSN
2 Seawolf SSN
1 688i SSN
1 Ohio SSGN

95 F-35Cs will do arial aerobatics

Unless Doujin has a problem with it, there ought to be a nice wide area of open sea for your show between his ships and mine that will be providing enforcement of the maritime exclusion zone on the Eastern side. Just have em parade within sight of Doujin's and I'll be sure no random nation's ships bother you.

[edited]

Zoogiedom has dispatched a small carrier battle group as part of the OMP's security detail to the naval conference. Word has not been released on the makeup of this group (I haven't bothered to sit down and do it out yet)...

Scandavian States (below post), Truitt is basing his intel on IDF's parade...

[Satellites Intelligance Room in Capital Building]
Presidente Angelo and Generali to Navy Conflects James Hudsen stand, looking at the photos while a few men talk about them.
"Sir, IDF is going to try somethign tricky, and infront of the international parties, well, cowardly it mgiht be, I think he could actually make the host Doujin unrepairable and sent to the bottom or decomisionning, maybe his plan is to weaken Doujin, who knows," as the nerd stopped, Generali Hudsen said somethign to the man, "Are the submarines loaded?"
"Unknown, it is only satellite intel, and we would not even dare send a Jolt in the case of suspision,"
At that, the Presidente pipped up, "Do you think we should alert Doujin, even ask to place some of our own forces there, say a few attack subs and a Liberator, IDF would not even dare atatck, since both that and the Doujin will be there, probably armmed to the teeth." as he finished, the Generali looked at him,
"We have no relations with Doujin in the past, he may not trust us, besides, he will probably bann IDF from comming within a few hundred miles of the confrence."
"I don't care, send them a telegram, we will also send a few Councilmen, I want you on that ship too." with that, the Presidente stood up, said his good-byes, and left, with the Generali following him.

To:Doujin
From: Councilari Angelo, Kelly Durman
We request to attend the meeting as soul-observers. We also ask that our 3rd Protectorate Division also attend for reasons which you may know form the following document (OOC: The conversation above is sent to Doujin).

[1] Liberator CUH Mk. 1
[6] Portshire SSN Mk. 2
[3] Sapphire Wave PC Mk. 1
[2] Skyline Protectorate Mk. 4
[1] Kirov II DCC

Liberator has the following:
240 TF-55D Merlin Hawks with Libertant Lines of Air to air, and Anti-Shipping Protectorate and Vallasa Missles.
120 F/A-35 JSF (For countering the main threat)
20 F-14F Tomcat with Libertant Lines.
Several other fighters, along with EWACs, all confedintial.
The Kirov is of a Truitti modification, fitted for mainly holding anti-shipping and submarine arms, same goes for the Sapphire Wave, whcih is a heavy gun ship for deep-sea operations.

For trust, we can allow for your officals to also be on these vessels durring the conferance.
END TRANSMISSION

[Is this solid intel or are you making things up? IDF would be stupid to try anything, my battlegroup alone has enoug combat power to put his collection of ship at the bottom of the sea in minutes, never mind the five fleets that Doujin has deployed to the area.]

My president, SEcretary of State and Naval heads will be on the Doujin, so I won't try anything and if it makes you feel better, I will have Doujin officers on the bridge to make sure nothing happens, My ships will be armed for when they try to help with security, but nothing will be loaded during the parade, Doujin officials and other nation's officers can be aboard to verify this, the F-35s will be unarmed and will not go within 50 miles of the Doujin, viewing can be done on IDF Yorktown class carrier USS BRIAN PICOLO. We can provide helo transport, but ask ther nations to help ferry people back and forth as many of our helos will be running ASW patrols. We are putting a few Blackhawks on the carriers to help ferry people

[Is this solid intel or are you making things up? IDF would be stupid to try anything, my battlegroup alone has enoug combat power to put his collection of ship at the bottom of the sea in minutes, never mind the five fleets that Doujin has deployed to the area.]

And my Fleet Command alone has the combinedp ower to put anything.. well, almost anything - and anywhere at the bottom of the sea :)

[Is this solid intel or are you making things up? IDF would be stupid to try anything, my battlegroup alone has enoug combat power to put his collection of ship at the bottom of the sea in minutes, never mind the five fleets that Doujin has deployed to the area.]

I think its based on IDF's parade. Personally I think we should have some faith in him and let him go about his parade; if he tries anything we can handle it, but I don't think he will.

Also Truitt, I think that Doujin has declared a very large maritime exclusion zone around the conference; only OMP member states' ships are allowed inside.

Truitt will not offically comment on thsi matter.

OOC:
The Intelligance was Satellite, yes, but I geuss you could say it is Reading Intelligance. It is mainly to make me sound smart ;-D.

Also:

The Truitti Division will sit outside of the range of the Doujin's range, for said reasons "Safe transport of our observers".

We are ready to receive your delegation, IDF - and if there is anyone else wishing do so now. Conference will begin soon :)

*raises hand* I would like to send Generali of Navy Operations, and a few Councilmen in International Relations also to be as observers, and of cource, the Generali might have something to say sometime in the conference.

TO: The Government of DOUJIN(Attn:Naval Department)
From:The Fenian Council, Erinin's Ruling Body
Erinin, though not a small nation, it is in matters of a floated navy small in comparision to Doujin.
Erinin being a known neutrality on most world affairs, and being content to sell it's wares to the world. Does not make habit of attending conferences on warfare. However given the respect garnered by Doujin in the area of naval combat, we feel it meaningful to attend.
ErininArms has calculated the cost effectiveness of innovative tactical enhanced radiation nuclear devices in combating the Super Surface Vessels being developed by so many nations(all essentially immitations of the Doujin).
ErininArms and the Nation of Erinin and the Fenian Council would be greatful at being allowed to send a delegate to the Doujin Naval Warfare conference, one to veiw the theories on surface combat which may provide a reasonble alternative to ER warhead devices.
Also providing Doujin an opportunity to examine the Cerberus Class ENV(Nuclear Attack Surface Vessel).
The delegate would of course be a member of the Fenian Council personally, and not some petty underling.
We await your response on the matter.
Respectfully, The Fenian Council.

Our delegation is aboard the carrier USS BRIAN PICOLO. They are going to board a Blackhawk helicopter, 4 JSFs will escort them to the Doujin, they are armed with AMRAAMs and Sidewinders. We hope they will get a warm welcome.

We would like to thank you for hosting this.

We are building a new battlecruiser and if finished in time we wish to show it off to the delegations and nations who may wish to purchase one. If you have objections we will understand as you may not want that distraction. The ship will be on sea-trials if finished in time and if allowed will swing by for the tours and demonstations.

We hope you approve and we are damn proud of this new design

OOC: (but ****ing MS Paint limits the image to looking like ****)

IDF, why are your aircraft armed? With the number of OMP ships in the area, nothing is going to attack your leaders' aircraft. In the interest of mutual faith, we'd prefer it if your jets turn back.

IDF, why are your aircraft armed? With the number of OMP ships in the area, nothing is going to attack your leaders' aircraft. In the interest of mutual faith, we'd prefer it if your jets turn back.
they will turn back, but I add they were armed with AA weapons only as our leader can be paranoid

You do realize that this whole conference is not safe, correct?

Is it not true that a satellite armed with kinetic weaponry could easily take down this conference?

You may want to watch that part of the skies.

You do realize that this whole conference is not safe, correct?

Is it not true that a satellite armed with kinetic weaponry could easily take down this conference?

You may want to watch that part of the skies.

It is not also true that a single fighter carrying ASAT weapons could destroy said satellite before it gets anywhere near the conference?

We can't provide ASAT help as IDF isn't up to standard on ASAT missions. We suggest another nation take charge there

You do realize that this whole conference is not safe, correct?

Is it not true that a satellite armed with kinetic weaponry could easily take down this conference?

You may want to watch that part of the skies.

A satellite with kinetic weaponry could take down any conference, wether it be land based or sea based.

Well, considering that you're not usually going to find that special ops type of satellite until it's too late, you might want to pay extra attention

The DCA representatives and Chardonayan military delegation arrived on a refitted Ar-2 Zeppelin. It touched down breifly on the water to releace a launch, and then accended to 1000m. The motor launch, containing the 10 representatives of DCA and the 5 Chardonayan officers sped off to the Doujin class vessel holding the event.

If a nation were to do such an attack, the response would be so immediate and deadly it wouldn't even be funny. They'd be lucky if they had a country left three hours afterwards.

Doujin, will we get permission from the previous request to show off our new Walter Payton battlecruiser class, USS WALTER PAYTON should be ready and if allowed will make a pass by the conference for tours and demonstations during her sea trials

"Admiral, we have a Blackhawk approaching with Four F-35's as an escort. They are about to enter conference airspace. Orders?"

"Let them through, I believe that is the delegates from IDF and it's protective escorts. Scramble three F-109D Super Tempests and have them intercept the escort. Make sure nothing fishy happens."

"Yessir."

Mackenzie picked up her headset and began barking orders, and faintly off the decks of the Doujin, 3 fighters headed towards the incoming delegation to provide "further" security.

5 minutes later
The aircraft approached the large behemoth known as the DN [i]Doujin and prepared landing sequences. The helicopter was directed to the helipad, where several men in uniform and armed guards awaited. The IDF delegation would be taken to their quarters and then be shown their way to the main conference room where everyone will meet up.

If a nation were to do such an attack, the response would be so immediate and deadly it wouldn't even be funny. They'd be lucky if they had a country left three hours afterwards.
Chances are, it would fire a lot of projectiles really fast and really accurately, then self destruct. There would be no possible way to track from which country it came from. The chances are also that it would be a pre-programmed attack, keeping you from tracking the signal.

You'd be lucky to get a picture of it.

OOC: Ok Doujin, I will take a none response as an affirmative on Erinin sending a Delegate.

IC:
The ENV Dopey made way towards Doujin waters.
She was a Cerberus Class vessel, one of seven active in the Erinin navy.
Aboard was Fenian Councilman Aaron O'Flannery he was a Senior member of the Fenian Council and sat as head of the Ancient Order of Hibernian Alliance, a well as CEO of ErininArms. He was in short, the most powerful man in Erinin.
His features contrasted his status, he was a thin man, slight of build. A tight brush-cut of bone-white hair, clean shaven. He at best 6' tall, though one could argue not. His eyes were the grey color the Atalantic on a stormy day.
He gripped a bridge officer in his gaze an froze the man with it.
"I want passive sonar only, single channel surface navigation radar only, no radio chatter, I want a hail broadcast until the Doujin confirm we can bring Dopey all the way in.
Dopey, to had an image that contrasted it's true power.
It displaced just over 23,000 tons, making it a very unassuming vessel as far as threats go.
However her combined firepower could easily sink a well sized combat group, very lilky before they could even attempt a counter-attack.
However, the Geopolitics of the Cerberus's might leads Erinin to seek alternatives to the cache of weapons currently aboard the Dopey.
They were now an hour out of Doujin waters.
A single ship, the captain thought for a moment that, that would be more suspicious then a fleet. Perhaps not.

"Commander, are we ready to go?"

"Yes Mr. President. The pod will drop in thirty seconds. Press the blue button under your armrest to tighten your double seatbelts, then an above-head restraint will come down. Hold onto the handles and wait until the yellow light comes on to flip the cover on a red button, and press it. It will release your restraints and will let you exit the vehicle"

"Okay. Commander, is this fun?"

"Yes Mr. President, it is very fun."

"And all of the technical officers are in the other pod?"

"Yes Mr. President."

All of a sudden, two pods are shot out the back of the C-130 transport craft and begin falling towards the fleet. When about halfway down, a small parachute deploys. 3/4ths of the way down, a large parachute deploys, and then the pods land on the Doujin's flight deck neatly.

speech upon arrival from IDF President

"thank you for having us at this conference," said President Reinsdorf of IDF. "We would like a tour of this great ship and want to assure we that IDF no longer sees you as a threat or want to be against you. We would like to work with you and your allies in the future and would like to develop new technologies together to ensure the safety of the seas for all who travel them.

We would like to apologize for threats made in the past and the stupid anti-Doujin pact. After seeing this great ship we are ashamed to have done it. We hope to recieve some guidance in the future when we continue development of our own Super-Dreadnoughts. Our main problem with them at the time being is the fact that an arms race may occur, but if we are at peace we can control this and make sure that war doesn't result.

We would like to ask your President to sign a treaty with us, we will determine the terms either after the conference or before if you would like as we still have a day. We should be working together and would like to have some exchanges of ideas and increased trade. Our main shipyards should be cooperating rather than competing.

We thank you once again for this conference, Doujin, and hope you like the parade of ships. May you continue to prosper.

Chances are, it would fire a lot of projectiles really fast and really accurately, then self destruct. There would be no possible way to track from which country it came from. The chances are also that it would be a pre-programmed attack, keeping you from tracking the signal.

You'd be lucky to get a picture of it.

We keep track on all satellites put in space... and like I said - if it was on land it would be just as risky in regards to satellite kinetic weaponry.

IDF: You can begin your parade now, by the way. Assuming your President/sec state/whoever else was consisting of your delegation is here, we will get underway and allow you to kick off the conference with the parade.

The parade starts now, I'll have IDF Baseball announcers Ken "Hawk" Harrelson and Darrin Jackson do the announcing over the PA."
http://www.fsnchicago.com/images/features/hawkanddj237x160.jpg
Hawk: the 1st ship in the parade is the Yorktown class carrier, the largest in the IDF fleet, but nowhere as large as this great ship we are on. The Yorktown is made to travel to hotspots quickly. This one is the USS BRIAN PICOLO named for the former Chicago Bear who died in his prime due to cancer at age 26.

DJ: Next we have our Guillen class Super-dreadnoughts, they are the USS OZZIE GUILLEN and USS JOSE VALENTIN. They are the largest IDF ships in the world, but are still smaller than this ship we are on. They sport 18 x 30 in electro-thermal guns.

(90 minutes later and nearing the end of the air show

Hawk: Now lets see 2 of the planes go to sonic boom to end the show, they are far enough and high enough that we won't feel the effects down here, but we will hear them. This is done for our safter

BOOM is heard

Hawk: Well this parade is over, YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE BOARD...

BOTH: YES!


The IDF ships will now go to the edge of the exclusion zone and take orders from Doujin screen commanders if anything arises

The Veritasean delegates stood eagerly on the deck of the Doujin, along with the other entourages, awaiting the IDF naval parade and airshow. Far off in the distance, the Minister thought he could see the masts of the Veritasean ships patrolling the area. The sight filled him with pride.


OOC: Yea, I'm bored, what of it?

The parade starts now, I'll have IDF Baseball announcers Ken "Hawk" Harrelson and Darrin Jackson do the announcing over the PA."
http://www.fsnchicago.com/images/features/hawkanddj237x160.jpg
Hawk: the 1st ship in the parade is the Yorktown class carrier, the largest in the IDF fleet, but nowhere as large as this great ship we are on. The Yorktown is made to travel to hotspots quickly. This one is the USS BRIAN PICOLO named for the former Chicago Bear who died in his prime due to cancer at age 26.

DJ: Next we have our Guillen class Super-dreadnoughts, they are the USS OZZIE GUILLEN and USS JOSE VALENTIN. They are the largest IDF ships in the world, but are still smaller than this ship we are on. They sport 18 x 30 in electro-thermal guns.

(90 minutes later and nearing the end of the air show

Hawk: Now lets see 2 of the planes go to sonic boom to end the show, they are far enough and high enough that we won't feel the effects down here, but we will hear them. This is done for our safter

BOOM is heard

Hawk: Well this parade is over, YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE BOARD...

BOTH: YES!


The IDF ships will now go to the edge of the exclusion zone and take orders from Doujin screen commanders if anything arises

OOC: Not so fast.

IC:
The two Guillen Class "Super-Dreadnoughts" were passing the four Doujin Class Super-Dreadnoughts, pitifully designed ships. Soon, they would be put out of their misery. Empress Guro looked over at the Admirals and nodded. Admiral Demian walked over to a console and keyed in the orders which were immediatly relayed to the bridge of every single ship in the Fleet.

The large guns aboard the DN Doujin whirred to life as they turned towards the two Guillen Class vessels. Similarly, 9 other Doujin Class guns were turning towards the "Parade" of IDF vessels, preparing to fire their monstrous guns on the enemy - IDF.

Several armed guards rushed the IDF's delegation, grabbing the men and holding them facing the ships. Empress Guro walked over to the ear of President Reinsdorf and whispered, "This is what happens when you go against Doujin."

Ear muffs were handed to all the delegates, except those from IDF, and then it happened. Each gun on all Doujin's began firing at all the IDF ships. Doujin carriers launched over 300 F-109D Super Tempests to take care of any air threat presented by the IDF, and to fire anti-shipping missiles at the enemy vessels.

The Doujin's would fire each gun every 30 seconds, keeping a sutained rate of fire on whichever ship was unfortunate enough to feel the wrath of Doujin.

Notice to the world
IDF - a nation that has worked against world peace and stability. Offering ransoms to those who sink a mere vessel, no matter which nation it belonged to, selling vessels to known pirate nations and those who target innocent civilians and vessels on the open seas. A nation who's mere existence threatens the peace of the world. We, today, will fix that. Far to long the Organization of Maritime Powers has stood by and watched the IDF, sitting by - waiting to take action. Today.. we take action. Today, we stop those maniacs from threatening the stability of our planet. Today, we show them who really controls the seas!

The facsimile in the corner of the bridge began chattering and a yeoman walked over to it. He picked up the sheet of paper and brought it over to Admiral Ward. The paper had only four words on it: Omega, Delta, Whiskey, Beta.
“Well, that’s the confirmation code,” the Admiral said while smiling, “Give the CIC the orders.”
“Aye, Sir,” a junior officer responded with a snappy salute before walking over to the deck phone and relaying the message to the Combat Information Center. A few short minutes later the ship shuddered as missile after missile left its silo. All in all, the UVS Blitz, an Arsenal Ship, fired a total of 30 Tomahawk cruise missiles, 25 Exocets, and 25 BrahMos anti-shipping missiles. The other Arsenal Ships in the two Veritasean Armadas (16 total) all also fired similar payloads at the IDF ships. Meanwhile, the 12 carriers in the formations began launching their fighters. The countless swarms of aircraft, armed for anti-air and anti-ship combat followed the missiles’ path towards IDF’s ships.

As the surface ships were busy engaging IDF’s ships in the near vicinity, the attack submarines surged forward to add their munitions to the fray, and the SSBN and SSGN’s began firing their missile (non-nuclear) payloads at IDF’s mainland. The missiles were aimed at key military and government infrastructure targets, picked out in the past week by intelligence and military officers. An all-points bulletin was also sent out to all Veritasean naval vessels, ordering them to engage any IDF ship they encountered, be it merchant or military. Defense conditions were raised and alert levels were raised. Three Amphibious Assault Groups went on standby and could be surged to IDF’s land in a matter of days. To formalize everything, the following statement was issued by the Veritasean government:

Currently, the Naval Empire of Unum Veritas is attacking military and merchant assets of the nation of IDF. These actions are in coordination with the Organization of Marine Powers and are in response to the threatening actions IDF recently took. The Anti-Doujin Pact was founded by IDF in order to find a way to destroy the Doujin class battleship; a ship operated primarily by members of the OMP. Furthermore, and a direct act of war in the eyes of this government, IDF offered a $1 trillion prize to the first nation to sink a Doujin, no matter who the Doujin belonged to. This country is currently in the process of procuring six such vessels and we could not ignore this blatant threat to their safety and to the safety of the thousands of sailors who will be serving on the ships. Thus, the government of this nation and the member states of the Organization of Marine Powers have deemed it necessary to remove the threat posed by IDF before it grew any further. We hope that this campaign will be ended as quickly as possible, but I assure you that it will not end until we have achieved our goal of removing IDF’s ability to threaten the freedom of the seas.

http://www.kprf.ru/clipart/misc/captain.jpg
High Chancellor Harding
The Naval Empire of Unum Veritas
Member: NAIA
Member: Band of Brothers
Member: Organization of Marine Powers (http://www.gaizme.com/omp/forums/index.php)
Vice President and Naval Commander: Legion of Defence (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2503299#2503299)
Owner: Veritasean Naval Industries Inc. (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=655745#655745)

The Radar Operative turned to Admiral Champlain. "Sir, Doujinshi and Unum Veritas naval vessels have commence firing on IDF." The admiral nodded. So it's begun, he thought. "Alert the fleet to remain at their positions. We will neither get involved in one side, or the other. Hold your fire. And get the transports ready, in case the Prime Minister and delegation wishes to leave."

"Yes, sir!"

OOC: I will only RP this if you allow Whittier in.

OOC: I will only RP this if you allow Whittier in.

My reservations aside, IDF - Pretty much everyone ignores Whittier. You really need to find new allies :)

Admiral Lafite accepted his ear protection bemusidly... apparently they were going to be treated to a live fire display of the Doujin's firepower. He opened his mouth to help equalize the pressure when the massive cannon fire.

Wait... they are aiming a little close to that IDF SD... do they have the elevation to clear it? No they don't... what the hell?

The doujin fired. There was no way to describe the sound, even through the ear protection. Admiral Lafite was knocked off his feet and one of the Ensigns he had brought along dove for cover, scrabbling for a sidearm that wasn't there. Lafite blinked repeatedly, trying to disapate the retinal image of the muzzle flash. Heat swept over him, and the smell of propellant filled the air.

He glances towards the IDF warships.

My god...

President Mike Sarzo saw the news reports of the Doujin-class ships firing on the IDF vessels with a stern grimace. He called all the members of his delegation that was slated to attend the conference and put everyone on speaker phone.

"You all better unpack your bags," Sarzo said. "We're not going over there."

Murmurs of confusion began to create a din on the line.

"Doujin just engaged IDF vessels that were there for the conference. It is in our best interests to remain focused on our combat efforts in Cam III and for us to concentrate on the funeral arrangements for Senior Vice President Dave Forrest. We can't afford to be a party to that kind of violence."

Sarzo picked up the phone and called the Empress of Doujin.

"I see there are a few problems with that conference," he said. "I've seen the intel on IDF so I'm aware of why you did it. Still, I'm not sure what to make of these latest developments. I believe you'll understand if I'd prefer to keep my delegation at home."

President Mike Sarzo saw the news reports of the Doujin-class ships firing on the IDF vessels with a stern grimace. He called all the members of his delegation that was slated to attend the conference and put everyone on speaker phone.

"You all better unpack your bags," Sarzo said. "We're not going over there."

Murmurs of confusion began to create a din on the line.

"Doujin just engaged IDF vessels that were there for the conference. It is in our best interests to remain focused on our combat efforts in Cam III and for us to concentrate on the funeral arrangements for Senior Vice President Dave Forrest. We can't afford to be a party to that kind of violence."

Sarzo picked up the phone and called the Empress of Doujin.

"I see there are a few problems with that conference," he said. "I've seen the intel on IDF so I'm aware of why you did it. Still, I'm not sure what to make of these latest developments. I believe you'll understand if I'd prefer to keep my delegation at home."

"Sarzo, dear, we will be relocating the conference to Doujinishia City (http://www.gaizme.com/nationstates/doujinshia.jpeg). I am glad that your delegation wasn't in the area, just in case crossfire were to occur. We don't want any harm to come to any nation attending the conference. I really must go now, my security detail is getting quite aggrivated at me. Ta-ta!"

The IDF OHio class SSGN vesel were submerged and at missile depth, It had 5 nuclear weapons, the Doujins didn't fire torpedoes so the Ohio quickly fired the tomahawks with 1 megaton warheads. They were set to be armed imediatly so that if shot down on the short journey to the Doujin ships, they would still do the job.

Captain Jim Oberweiss of the Ohio class vessel had feared this and has his crew ready to launch, they were still 10 miles from the Doujn fleet as they were the rear end of the formation. He quickly fired his missiles at his depth of 150 feet. All 5 cleared, even if shot down at 10 miles the Doujin fleet would suffer heavy losses, President Reinsdorf would be a martyr here along with some of IDF's leaders. It didn't matter to Oberweiss, he never did like Reinsdorf who was due to be a 1 term loser in office.

Oberweiss then continued launches and started firing the 151 conventional missiles. Unlike the surface fleet, the sub's VLS tubeswere armed as they always were, this was not true with the torpedo tubes, but they were being loaded



The CO of the Galaxy class sub USS GALLERY realized what happened also, it was in a similar position as the Ohio class vessel. His sub had 12 SS-n-19s aboard, 3 with nuclear warheads in the VLS tubes. ALl were launched. The nuclear warheads were 250 kt strength and would explode if they were hit by defensive systems. One other Galaxy class vessel did the same. The other wasn't ready to fire.

The 2 Seawolf clas SSNs didn't have VLS so they had no weapons ready to fire, they did try to quickly load the torpedo tubes.

The 1 688i class sub had 12 conventional missiles and quickly fired them.

THe news was quickly sent via UHF wire to fleet command, the conference was 1,500 km south of IDF, well within the 2,000 km range of TASM IVs. IDF had 30 Ohio SSGNs in the Southern fleet within range, Each had 156 TASMs, 16 of which were 1 megaton nuclear devices and the rest had 1,500 lb warheads that were on delayed explosion to each through a ship.

The subs 1 by one went to 120 feet and fired their missiles, the nukes were set to explode if hit by defenses within 10 miles of any enemy ship. It took 12 from the time of the 1st launch on the 1st ship until the last ship fired her 1st missiles. Missiles were launched from a sub 4 seconds after the previous one.


on the Ozzie Guilllen

The captain quickly realized he was under attack, he had the marines aboard his ship shoot the DOujin officers who were overseeing it. He had his gunners load the weapons, his ship wouldn't survive, but would long enough to fire at the Doujin fleet. He ordered all 200 TASM IVs with 1,500 lb warheads, which being VLS launched were always in tubes, fired. It would take 2 minutes to prepare and then they would fire in quick succession. He should last long enough he thought to fire a good number off, the Jose Valentin did the same.

In 30 seconds and after the outer hull's outboard armor was beginning to fail the ships began to fire their guns at the superstructure of the ship.

Don't leave soo fast, I'm not done with the counter attack, you are 1,500 km south of my nation and I'm far from over, but I have to go to bed and will be working at Deep River Waterpark until 10 pm central tomorrow and can't get on in the day before my shift, wait for me to finish that. Good night. Don't let the missiles bite

OOC: Thanks to the delegates being outside it appears most will die from the 1st volley of guns

IDF AF has launched 225 TU-22U Backfire II high-speed anti-ship bombers. They are streaking in at high altitude and each is carrying 2 of the new Anti-Dreadnoght missiles, they are like a bunker buster, except they plow through ship armor before exploding, they are scram-jet powered to deliver high speed and strong impact forces. They also have 4 AS-6 conventional anti-ship missiles, at 450 miles they fire and turn on after burner. (they take off 1 hour after attack on IDF ships)

On the order of IDF's, now acting President Ozzie Guillen, nuclear weapons will be launched at the ships of the conference. 10 Tritan III MRBMs (each with 3 MIRVs of 10 Megatons) are being fired. Teaclipper is being activated for domestic defense and counter attacks. The doujin fleet will die today for their crimes when IDF just came to right a wrong here and apologize with the Olive Branch. Well know you will feel our middle finger of death.

IDF patriot batteries along the Sinai and Eliat region were prepared along with the LRSAMs for cruise missile attack, IDF AEGIS ships with SM-4ERs were readied and began firing at cruise missiles. About 20% of them got through defenses and hit various targets, fatalities stand at 12,500 naval personel, 85,000 army personnel, 5,500 AF personel, 7654 governmetn officials, and 108,350 civilians (many tourists in government buildings and dual use airports which were hit; many International citizens are dead here in the government buildings and airports)

10,762 of the civilian deaths were in a Jerusalem market that was hit by a stray missile. Images of dead civilains are being broadcast on CNN, Fox News, MSNBC and other stations

125,000 other people were injured.

THese high losses contributed to IDF's decision to fire MRBMs, the quick nuke launches were commander instinct and not government ordered, but Tritan III launches were. We never attacked Doujin or his allies and even removed the alliance, which was a technological development group and not a military alliance and removed the trillion dollar offer. We then offer the olive branch to be betrayed,

WE want the killing to stop at this level, when the nukes explode the fatalities on both sides and damage will be equal, we want no more launches and a cease fire here, we both lost. If Doujin sees more firing fit. I will not be the only one dead, but so will his allies and himself. If he wants to live to the next day then I must live to the next day. IDF ICBMs are readied in hardened and hidden bunkers across the world. Don't test us.

Even though i am an Allie of IDF, i can’t get involved in this RP because myself and Doujin have never seen eye to eye on anything and have always been at each other Throats.

OCC: We welcome any Attacks on Doujin, This Nation is Evil to the Bone.

The President of Shangia was reading to little school children when his aid ran into classroom, and whispered in his ear.
Mike Thornburg whispering to President Aflax: "Mr. President the Doujinis and their allies have just attacked IDF."
A look of concern overtook the President's face. Shangia had just taken over the Whittier Pact. He never thought there would be a major war.
"I want a breifing in one hour" he told the stocky gentleman, who promptly left the room.
He continued to read to the children the events in the middle east clouding his mind. "IDF's going to be pissed and someone's going to have hell to pay" he thought.
Five minutes later he abruptly ended his visit and left with his secret service detachment.


One hour later:
Walt Whitman, the tall, black haired 32 year old Secretary of State was briefing the President.
"IDF had been invited to the conference and had shown up in full faith. And the next thing you know, Doujin takes their President hostage, and opens fire on their ships, with no declaration of war."
Adam Goulough, the short but stocky blond haired, 56 year old Secretary of Defense was more blunt: "They deliberately lured the Isrealis to the conference under false prestenses. This is a deliberate attempt at world domination believe you me. If we let them take over Israel, they won't stop there. If we have to go in and kick their asses."
President Aflax "Aren't you being a little rash. I doubt the Doujinis are foolish enough to try to take over the world."
"What about our forces in the region? In IDF, Mesopotamia, and in Egypt?"
Goulough "We have suffered some casualties, the Doujinis are claiming they didn't know we had bases there. Something about some bomb destroying our bases there."
Aflax: "Well I don't know what the hell started this, but its going to end.
Walt, I want you to contact the Doujin embassy and demand in immediate ceasefire. If they refuse, they will be having to pay hell itself. The Shangiate people will not tolerate the unprovoked attacks on Shangian forces in the near east. I want another breifing in 4 hours."
The 6ft 2 President then prepared to address the nation. The news networks were filled with nothing but coverage of the war between Doujin and IDF.

High up in earth, Pandora's Box detects several nuclear launches.
The beam weapons heat up to the synergizing point, each automatically locked onto its target missile.
The IDF missiles rose above the atmosphere, as the intense on the weapons of Pandora's box heated to the firing point.
Five seconds later the beams fired, traveling at the speed of light to their targets, the unsuspecting nuclear missiles.
Blinding flashes of light crossed the darkness of space between Pandora's Box and the nuclear warheads followed by several nuclear explosions as the beams struck the weapons causing them explode above the atmosphere.

No further threats being detected, Pandora's Box went into stand by mode.
Silent but vigilant.


Down in Shangia, the National Defense Center came alive as the big display showed several ICBM's being launched by IDF and then being destroyed by the Pandora's Box.
The Senior Officer, Major George Cutler had just spat out his coffee when he saw it. "What the fuck are the Israelis trying to do? Start a freaking nuclear war?"

High up in earth, Pandora's Box detects several nuclear launches.
The beam weapons heat up to the synergizing point, each automatically locked onto its target missile.
The IDF missiles rose above the atmosphere, as the intense on the weapons of Pandora's box heated to the firing point.
Five seconds later the beams fired, traveling at the speed of light to their targets, the unsuspecting nuclear missiles.
Blinding flashes of light crossed the darkness of space between Pandora's Box and the nuclear warheads followed by several nuclear explosions as the beams struck the weapons causing them explode above the atmosphere.

No further threats being detected, Pandora's Box went into stand by mode.
Silent but vigilant.


Down in Shangia, the National Defense Center came alive as the big display showed several ICBM's being launched by IDF and then being destroyed by the Pandora's Box.
The Senior Officer, Major George Cutler had just spat out his coffee when he saw it. "What the fuck are the Israelis trying to do? Start a freaking nuclear war?"


OOC: It doesn't matter since the cruise missile nukes will do the job anyways. Most the fleet will die and if they fire at the nukes and destroy the missiles the damage will still be done when the device triggers off

OOC: It doesn't matter since the cruise missile nukes will do the job anyways. Most the fleet will die and if they fire at the nukes and destroy the missiles the damage will still be done when the device triggers off

OOC: damn, Pandora's Box wasn't designed to deal with cruise missiles, only ICBM's. You know you just made it difficult for me to help you.

OOC; Some of the Doujins will sink from that along with other ships in the area from Doujin, other nations, and unfortunately my own (which would sink anyways). Maybe losing the bulk of his navy will teach him a lesson, he attacked a Battleship of mine before in INternational waters for no reason long before I sought to find a way to beat a DOujin.

The President has ordered Shangian forces in IDF to take evasive action by moving all troops and equipment to neighboring Lower Egypt.
Doujin is bound to retaliate, and we don't our forces in the line of fire.
340,000 troops are leaving Israel for Egypt.
All shangian aircraft are also being moved to safety in Egypt.

The President has ordered Shangian forces in IDF to take evasive action by moving all troops and equipment to neighboring Lower Egypt.
Doujin is bound to retaliate, and we don't our forces in the line of fire.
340,000 troops are leaving Israel for Egypt.
All shangian aircraft are also being moved to safety in Egypt.
If Doujin retaliates with nukes, I will die and so will he and unum veritas. (possibley other allies if they help him in this cowardly attack)

<MAFCCP>

"God damn. Sir, IDF just went Code Red on the OMP. Suggest we scramble Dragons to cover the conference and destroy any further launches." reported the tired duty commander.

"Very well. Launch anything we can't spare here in an assault. I want full strategic bombings of the IDF fleet and naval facilities. Nothing will be left standing. Do i make myself clear" answered the King.


<Across McLeodian territories>

Hundreds of EB-2, EB-3, and EB-4 bombers took off, with squadrons of StealthHawk and F-114 escorts, and four full squadrons of the most deadly weapon in the McLeodian aerial arsenal, the AL-52 airborne-laser. Capable of destroying even AAMs at 200 miles, the lasers were the ultimate theatre defence weapon. In a few hours, the air armada would be in range of its targets, and the fools who thought they could use nuclear weapons in a massive first strike would pay. Dearly.

<MAFCCP>

"God damn. Sir, IDF just went Code Red on the OMP. Suggest we scramble Dragons to cover the conference and destroy any further launches." reported the tired duty commander.

"Very well. Launch anything we can't spare here in an assault. I want full strategic bombings of the IDF fleet and naval facilities. Nothing will be left standing. Do i make myself clear" answered the King.


<Across McLeodian territories>

Hundreds of EB-2, EB-3, and EB-4 bombers took off, with squadrons of StealthHawk and F-114 escorts, and four full squadrons of the most deadly weapon in the McLeodian aerial arsenal, the AL-52 airborne-laser. Capable of destroying even AAMs at 200 miles, the lasers were the ultimate theatre defence weapon. In a few hours, the air armada would be in range of its targets, and the fools who thought they could use nuclear weapons in a massive first strike would pay. Dearly.


Lasers are IGNORED. I didn't commit the 1st strike, Doujin did. 1,000s of IDF Aircraft are on defensive perimeter with early radar that detects stealth planes including our own.

OOC: Well, actually, on second thoughts, if IDF can have bombers armed, fuelled, crewed, launched, and in range in one post, i think i can get AL-52s there to intercept. Besides, Tu-22s can't carry that big a payload, so those "bunker busters" must be fairly lightweight in terms of warhead. Ah, who cares, they won't be around for long.


IC: The advance group of twenty-four AL-52s made it into range of the Tu-22s just as they began to fire their missiles. Targetting wing roots and cockpits from well outside the range of any known AAM, the AL-52s opened fire with 2MW lasers. Once each craft had fired ten shots at the bombers, they switched to targetting the big bulky anti-dreadnought missiles, scything through them quickly and efficiently, just as they had been designed to do.

Lasers are IGNORED. I didn't commit the 1st strike, Doujin did. 1,000s of IDF Aircraft are on defensive perimeter with early radar that detects stealth planes including our own.

OOC: For the umpteenth time, i use nothing that isn't possible to create within the next five years. The AL-52 is my version of the US 747 with a laser turret on the nose. If you want ignore systems that pretty much exist, that's fine, but this is far more feasible than any of your "Super-Dreadnaughts" and SSGNs that suddenly appear near the Doujini fleet.

OOC: Well, actually, on second thoughts, if IDF can have bombers armed, fuelled, crewed, launched, and in range in one post, i think i can get AL-52s there to intercept. Besides, Tu-22s can't carry that big a payload, so those "bunker busters" must be fairly lightweight in terms of warhead. Ah, who cares, they won't be around for long.


IC: The advance group of twenty-four AL-52s made it into range of the Tu-22s just as they began to fire their missiles. Targetting wing roots and cockpits from well outside the range of any known AAM, the AL-52s opened fire with 2MW lasers. Once each craft had fired ten shots at the bombers, they switched to targetting the big bulky anti-dreadnought missiles, scything through them quickly and efficiently, just as they had been designed to do.
OOC: They don't carry large payloads due to fuel weight which is short due to the distance to the conference allowing more bombs to be carrier. IDF was on high alert to defend the conference.

I doubt you are 1,500 km from the conference, my plane only had to travel half that distance to fire their weapons. The only way you can be that close is if they are launched from carriers, which would be destroyed from the nukes at that point. LASERS ARE IGNORED SO MY PLANES ARE UNTOUCHED

OOC: For the umpteenth time, i use nothing that isn't possible to create within the next five years. The AL-52 is my version of the US 747 with a laser turret on the nose. If you want to ignore systems that pretty much exist, that's fine, but this is far more feasible than any of your "Super-Dreadnaughts" and SSGNs that suddenly appear near the Doujini fleet.

^^^READ^^^ And in fact yes, i am a little over 1,500km from the conference. BUt, i have AL-52s fuelled and armed ready for launch as part of my SDI. Unless you have 200 strategic bombers permanently fuelled and armed, you can't lecture me on logistics.

The Dr_Twist Government Requests McLeod03 and other Nations involved that wish to Keep Strong Relations with Dr_Twist to Please not Get Involved at all in this Conflict.

The President was sitting at his desk, his black hair with grey streaks was disheveled.
A young military aid, in his mid 20's walked in and spoke to the Defense Secretary.
Goulough dismissed him with a curt salute. The young Colonel snapped to attention and returned the salute, doing an about face before leaving the room.
As soon as he was gone, Secretary of Defense Goulough turned and spoke,
"Mr. President the government of McLeod03 has just delcared war on IDF and they are attacking the IDF fleet. We can't stand by while an ally goes down. We must go to their aid now or lose our credibility in the eyes of the international community."
President Aflax, his face somber, thought gravely for a moment. No national leader enjoyed taking his nation into war. But Shangia had committments to keep. And one of those committments was to defend allies. Still he pondered what the domestic polls would show if he committed Shangian forces to the battle.
He buzzed his personal secretary Victoria Winters,
"Victoria, get me Walt on the line asap."
Walt had been busy in his office contacting various foreign embassies regarding the crises. As soon as he hung up with the ambassador from Lower Egypt, the phone rang.
He picked it up and was told to hold for call from the President.

"Walt, I have another task for you."
"What can I do Mr. President?"
"I need you to contact the McLeod03 embassy and ask them not to enter this war and to pull out all their forces. Tell them this thing is already a hot tamale without their involvement."
"I wasn't aware they were involved Mr. President."
"They just attacked IDF about a half hour ago."
"I'll get right on it Mr. President."
"Good, make sure drive my point home to their ambassador."
The President and the Secretary of State hung up. Walt picked the phone back up and began dialing the McLeod03 embassy.

King Sileetris grinned with glee as he was offered the earmuffs, the soldiers declined, having helmets already. Sileetris put the earmuffs on over his baseball cap and watched the turrets turn, oblivious to the guards rushing the IDF delegation.

BOOOOOOBOOOOOOOOOOOMBOOOOOOOOOOOMB

The shockwave sent the King sprawling into the arms of his guards. One of them, watching the parade from the railing saw the IDF ships erupt into blinding explosions, the first thing out of his mouth was "EVAC AT DECK"

In what can only be described as a scene out of an action movie, the King's dropship jumps over from the helipad, descends to the edge of the deck(its ramp scraping and sparking over the railing), as the soldiers rush him inside(if any other delegates want a ride, they can attempt to get in as well, but if everyone rushes it, my soldiers will cut you down wholesale). The plane takes off full speed away from both fleets as its compliment of Valefors gather to protect it.

(OOC: I really don't want to lose my national leader to something as silly as what could develop into the largest naval conflict ever....)

The Dr_Twist Government Requests McLeod03 and other Nations involved that wish to Keep Strong Relations with Dr_Twist to Please not Get Involved at all in this Conflict.

Sorry bud, but i don't take kindly to people nuking my allies AND a peaceful conference with multinational attendance.

Sorry bud, but i don't take kindly to people nuking my allies AND a peaceful conference with multinational attendance.

As far as the Dr_Twist Government is concerned Doujin attacked IDF Forces, Making Doujin the 1st Nation to Strike, In Return Dr_Twist could easily be Dragged into a conflict on IDF's Side at this rate so we continue to ask all Allies of any form not to get involved or this could get worse.

Sorry bud, but i don't take kindly to people nuking my allies AND a peaceful conference with multinational attendance.
Shangia reminds McLeod03 that IDF did not draw first blood.
We kindly ask you to withdraw from the conflict.
Doujin has repeatedly launched unprovoked attacks on IDF ships in the past, in international waters.
This is only the latest atrocity committed by Doujin.
He had this coming.
IDF was in attendane at the conference under peaceful auspices before their President was abducted at gun point by Doujin's armed thugs and his ships unjustly attacked while under Doujins assurances of safe passage.

OOC:
*blinks*
Atrocity?
Details, please?

IC:
The languidly tall and willowy woman turns from the broadcasts, her pale almost bluish skin tinged with a sad greyness, more of emotion then of content.

She turns to the soldier standing nearby. It has begun as foretold. Please inform the Admiral now is the time.

The soldier merely bows and departs to do as bid.

tag

Axis Nova is shocked and enraged at these unprovoked actions on the part of Doujin! Your opening salvo shot down the aircraft that had one of our senior governmental officials aboard as it was coming in for a landing, and we hereby declare our alliance TERMINATED. We declare for the IDF!

In orbit, the Axis Nova SDI grid powers up, and shortly thereafter ion beams begin to fire towards Shangia's Pandora's Box network.

--At Zenith Fleet Base, in Axis Nova--

"Go, go, go!"

A traffic controller waves his arms as Admiral A-1s, smaller tanks, combat cars, troops, and other implements of war roll onto transports. Airships of various descriptions are beginning to launch, and the massive Lucifer Class, the first of it's kind, slowly begins to accelerate down the 30 kilometer long main runway. Gunboats take off straight up, carriers queue up to use the main runway, and cruisers slowly roll towards the 15 kilometer long secondaries.

Axis Nova is going to war, for the first time...


Axis Nova

OOC: IDF, don't be a wuss. I suppose you do not believe the 747 based ABL does not exist, right? Gonna ignore the US Air Force, too?
IC:

The NEODEN system has now been activated. Any IDF ballistic missiles fired at New Empire will meet a barrage of railgun fired slugs, laser beams, and guided missiles.

A cruise missile attack will be stopped using the unmanned QB-52 patrol missile craft, QL-52 Patrol Laser craft, aided by satellite based sensors and some of the higher powered weapons.

"Holy shit..."

The Seagle had already been fleeing when the first shots were fired, but the back windows lit up in a nuclear flash. The aircraft was rocked and rolled, but a very angry admiral and his transport made it out.

Wonderful. Just wonderful.

OOC: Guys, i know Doujin struck first, by I abhor the use of nuclear devices. OOCly i think they absolutely ruin RPs unless RPed well, which IDF hasn't done in the slightest. ICly, they cause huge amounts of damage, contaminate large areas of land, or in this case, international fishing waters close to IDF's own homeland, so he is effectively poisoning his own people. Oh, and they are, of course, the wimps way out.

IDF - Dude, my tech exists. Unlike your dreadnought. Wanna ignore something? Ignore Axis Novas huge flying battleships, not my own planes modelled almost exactly on existing and, IIRC, working technology.

OOC: Guys, i know Doujin struck first, by I abhor the use of nuclear devices. OOCly i think they absolutely ruin RPs unless RPed well, which IDF hasn't done in the slightest. ICly, they cause huge amounts of damage, contaminate large areas of land, or in this case, international fishing waters close to IDF's own homeland, so he is effectively poisoning his own people. Oh, and they are, of course, the wimps way out.

IDF - Dude, my tech exists. Unlike your dreadnought. Wanna ignore something? Ignore Axis Novas huge flying battleships, not my own planes modelled almost exactly on existing and, IIRC, working technology.

OOC: Excuse me for being original and refusing to just rip planes and tanks from real life nations, or taking stuff like scramjets and electrothermal guns and claiming it as 'modern tech', when the first is barely in the prototype stage and the second entirely nonexistant (but possible). I have explained how they fly and no one at all has said why they can't.

Axis Nova

OOC: I'm not saying it wouldn't work mate. I'm just saying that my AL-52s are more likely to be possible than your own craft. Besides, i have no RL weapons in my arsenal, with the exception of the Brimstone anti-armour missile, because i haven't made a better one myself yet. Everythign i have is loosely based on improved versions of RL tech. And i mean vastly improved.

OOC: I'm not saying it wouldn't work mate. I'm just saying that my AL-52s are more likely to be possible than your own craft. Besides, i have no RL weapons in my arsenal, with the exception of the Brimstone anti-armour missile, because i haven't made a better one myself yet. Everythign i have is loosely based on improved versions of RL tech. And i mean vastly improved.

OOC: Oh, that's what you meant. Carry on, then.

Axis Nova

[IDF, maybe you are forgetting a little piece of ettiquete, or perhaps you didn't know it, but killing off national leaders is a big no-no without permission. Furthermore, Doujin hasn't had the chance to shoot down those missiles, which he undoubtedly will given the defenses against such an attack. Furthermore, if a single nuke gets through IDF is dead. While I have enough nukes to put several gigatons worth of warheads on IDF, I seriously doubt IDF has enough nukes to get past my ABM defenses, so the boast about killing off any nation that attacks is a non-starter.

Oh, and nukes simply can't detonate after they're shot down, they're simply too delicate and require too much precision for something like that to work. You seriously need to up your knowledge base, IDF.]

[IDF, maybe you are forgetting a little piece of ettiquete, or perhaps you didn't know it, but killing off national leaders is a big no-no without permission. Furthermore, Doujin hasn't had the chance to shoot down those missiles, which he undoubtedly will given the defenses against such an attack. Furthermore, if a single nuke gets through IDF is dead. While I have enough nukes to put several gigatons worth of warheads on IDF, I seriously doubt IDF has enough nukes to get past my ABM defenses, so the boast about killing off any nation that attacks is a non-starter.

Oh, and nukes simply can't detonate after they're shot down, they're simply too delicate and require too much precision for something like that to work. You seriously need to up your knowledge base, IDF.]

OOC: What the heck do you expect him to do? He sent people to apologize and try to improve relations with Doujin, and Doujin's arrogant self took said people hostage and sunk one of his capital ships!

Axis Nova

[It's called getting your ass kicked with dignity, any good RPer knows how to do it. Besides, it's what happens when you pick a fight with someone bigger than you knowing you can't win.]

[It's called getting your ass kicked with dignity, any good RPer knows how to do it. Besides, it's what happens when you pick a fight with someone bigger than you knowing you can't win.]

OOC: Give me a break. IDF didn't pick any fight at all, and this attack was entirely unprovoked.

You expect him to just roll over for Doujin after Doujin takes a bunch of his people hostage and then attacks some of his fleet?

Stop complaining about the nukes. I think it'd make for an interesting RP if they DO hit.

If a lot of people's national leaders get vaporized, well, that's Doujin's fault for starting a fight in IDF's backyard.

Axis Nova

A fleet of 5 ships beloning to Stevid closed in on the Doujin at thrity knots.
Heavy smoke billowed as if something had exploded.

The Admiral declared red alert.

"Hail the Doujin comms, tell them... "sorry we're late", and ask them if they know what that explosion was.

[If you don't think that bounty wasn't asking for it then you're an idiot. The fact that he rescended it is irrelevent, he showed himself to be hostile to a lot of nations and the threat was eliminated. And no, it wouldn't make for an interesting RP, because IDF would cease to be in a matter of minutes as gigatons worth of nuclear weapons sterilize his country.]

[If you don't think that bounty wasn't asking for it then you're an idiot. The fact that he rescended it is irrelevent, he showed himself to be hostile to a lot of nations and the threat was eliminated. And no, it wouldn't make for an interesting RP, because IDF would cease to be in a matter of minutes as gigatons worth of nuclear weapons sterilize his country.]

OOC: He rescinded it and sent people to apologize publicly. The only person who showed a threat in this thread was Doujin, by taking hostages and attacking IDF at a conference.

And I wager that you wouldn't use nukes so indiscriminately on him, considering he didn't hit anyone else's territory (just military units). On top of that, if you DID nuke IDF's country into a crater, you'd spread fallout into many neighbouring countries, owned by other NS nations.

Axis Nova

[Actually, I would, considering that if the nukes hit he would take out the Emperor, Princess (who also happens to be the Fourth Sea Lord), and not a few other important figures in my country. Besides, a full response would be within my No Tolerance policy, which was announced not long ago.]

[Actually, I would, considering that if the nukes hit he would take out the Emperor, Princess (who also happens to be the Fourth Sea Lord), and not a few other important figures in my country. Besides, a full response would be within my No Tolerance policy, which was announced not long ago.]

OOC: Fair enough. Still, by any standards, Doujin holds the blame for this situation. Had he not decided to start a battle in IDF's backyard, there wouldn't be nukes headed towards his precious harbour queens right now.

The only reason all these national leaders are endangered is that Doujin couldn't wait until AFTER the conference to throw his weight around.

Axis Nova

"Sir, satellite imagery detect nuclear launches, presumably by IDF and towards the conference." Admiral Champlain jumped out of his seat. "Get those prepped choppers over to the delegation immediately. In the meantime, fire up the engines, and move out at top speed!"

A pair of helicopters on standby whirled down toward the landing. The Prime Minister was quickly bundled in, followed by the others. In barely 30 seconds, the twin helos lifted up toward the already departing fleet. One on board one of the carriers, the delegation would be flown off on one of the pre-prepared transports to safety. If they could get there in time.

Above the orbit of the Earth, several Kamor-IBBEM Kinetic Anti-Missile satellites swiveled their weapons in position and locked on the targets. One by one, the unleach a swarm of interceptor warheads at the approaching missiles.

[Oh, and I forgot to mention, the bombs that I use are relatively clean, except for a few moments of intense gamma which is designed to wipe out what isn't killed by over-pressurization, hurricane-level winds, and lots of heat. It's the reason why I don't resort to tactical responses to nuclear weapons anymore, nothing's there after the fact to piss off the rest of the neighborhood.]

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OOC: Out for the day, but I'll be updating later this evening. A few notes first though: IDF, it really would be better if you didn't jump straight to a nuclear strike. I can see how you might resort to it later, but right off the bat is not a good sign. We might have fired the first shot (although your bounty was as good as a declaration of war anyways, despite its withdrawal), but you just escalated this war to a vastly new plain. The OMP probably has more ICBM's than you have citizens. Now, I'm all for keeping this conventional and making it a good RP (it is rather creative so far), but if you take it nuclear you will NOT have a country left and Doujin and I will at least have a few colonies still around. It would be in your best interests to keep this conventional; if its conventional you lose but we aren't going to be as vengeful; if its nuclear you lose and we're going to be pissed and take it out in the surrender talks. You might just want to reconsider it.

Also, this is by far nowhere near the the "brunt" of our forces....if you think this is a large amount of ships, you've not seen anything yet.

Suffice it to say my upgraded AEGIS destroyers (all fourty or so) and my various other AA ships went to full alert and their missiles began automatically tracking the warheads.

EDIT: I'll have a more detailed post later today.

"Sir" followed by a knock on the door to the cabin. The middle aged man rose from his bed in his luxurious stateroom. "Yes, commander?" was his response as he opened the door on board the newest and greatest superbattleship NRS Victory II, a Wolfe Class Superbattleship. The rear-admiral looked down at his finely crafted watch and said "Commander its early, out with it."

The midgrade officer looked at the admiral and said "Sir, there has been a nuclear strike against Doujin. What should be our course?"

Admiral William, Earl of Lynch, looked with utter horror at the officer. He was a bit speechless as he turned around and looked through the beuatifully crafted window at the land far off in the distance. "We were almost there commander. And we shall continue to offer whatever support we can."

"Aye sir," as the man shut the door and ran up the stairs. He alerted the rest of the fleet, known as the touring fleet. Which is sent on such diplomatic missions. Various warships continued their course to port.

OOC: I apologize for responding so late to this, haven't been on. And I can't miss a good Naval convention. Anyway, the fleet I had sent has about 30 ships in it. Showing the various types of weapons my navy has.

OOC: IDF, don't be a wuss. I suppose you do not believe the 747 based ABL does not exist, right? Gonna ignore the US Air Force, too?
IC:

The NEODEN system has now been activated. Any IDF ballistic missiles fired at New Empire will meet a barrage of railgun fired slugs, laser beams, and guided missiles.

A cruise missile attack will be stopped using the unmanned QB-52 patrol missile craft, QL-52 Patrol Laser craft, aided by satellite based sensors and some of the higher powered weapons.

"Holy shit..."

The Seagle had already been fleeing when the first shots were fired, but the back windows lit up in a nuclear flash. The aircraft was rocked and rolled, but a very angry admiral and his transport made it out.

Wonderful. Just wonderful.


OOC: OK, I won't ignore the laser for ICBM defense as I know that exists, but I will IGNORE it's use on AAMs and cruise missiles, the whole idea of the laser is that it is on the planes so it is above much of the atmosphere so the power loss is limited, It definitely can't be used on a plane since the plane bodies are too weak, but ICBMs are weak skins that can be destroyed by small hail so a weak laser does the trick

OOC: Christ, I go on vacation, nuclear war breaks out. Well, better prepare my fleet. When I get back on Monday Ill have another look and see what I can do.

OOC: Out for the day, but I'll be updating later this evening. A few notes first though: IDF, it really would be better if you didn't jump straight to a nuclear strike. I can see how you might resort to it later, but right off the bat is not a good sign. We might have fired the first shot (although your bounty was as good as a declaration of war anyways, despite its withdrawal), but you just escalated this war to a vastly new plain. The OMP probably has more ICBM's than you have citizens. Now, I'm all for keeping this conventional and making it a good RP (it is rather creative so far), but if you take it nuclear you will NOT have a country left and Doujin and I will at least have a few colonies still around. It would be in your best interests to keep this conventional; if its conventional you lose but we aren't going to be as vengeful; if its nuclear you lose and we're going to be pissed and take it out in the surrender talks. You might just want to reconsider it.

Also, this is by far nowhere near the the "brunt" of our forces....if you think this is a large amount of ships, you've not seen anything yet.


tough ****, the nukes will destroy your navy and that's what you deserve. McLeod has already recognized the nukes going off and a few of them will, then I have 60 nuclear tomahawks inbound from IDF waters and 3,060 TASM IIIs from the same Ohios of IDF's southern fleet. They are hyper-sonic speed cruise missiles. That along with the quick launches from the ships in the parade means many of the missiles will hit including some of the nukes, I have deals with neighbors where we share ABM defenses, well we each have our own, but made overlap. If you have a problem with the nukes then you shouldn't of messed with me, you I won't send any more nukes unless provoked, I'm in my right you killed over 100,000 IDF citizens and many other International citizens. Your Doujin class ships will be killed by the nukes so long.

OOC: People think this strike was on the Doujin homeland, it was 1,500 km south of Israel in the Indian Ocean. I will IGNORE this unless some of the nukes hit and destroy Doujin's fleet since that would be a godmodd to stop that many missiles

IC: We didn't start this, we removed the offer and tried to make peace, to claim that my nulcear strike is a 1st strike is like claiming Hiroshima was a 1st strike, well your fleet will know look like Hiroshima.

[Dude, nobody engage AAMs. And as I understand it, the 747-laser is a 5Mw solid state that has a range measured in thousands of miles, it could easily engage cruise missiles if the targetting suite was good enough (and it should be, hitting a target at less than 30 miles is much easier than hitting a target at 1500 miles.) And frankly, you have two options, either you rescend the attack and we can have a conventional war or the missiles can be shot down, we can find out some of the warheads were nuclear, and the probability of OMP nations using tactical nukes and other systems to take out your nuclear weapons suddenly becomes very high.]

[Actually, I would, considering that if the nukes hit he would take out the Emperor, Princess (who also happens to be the Fourth Sea Lord), and not a few other important figures in my country. Besides, a full response would be within my No Tolerance policy, which was announced not long ago.]
Well next time pick friends who won't invite them into a warzone when he knows I will respond, pick your friends wisely SS, Doujin is not good and thinking things through and is at fault for this. If you knew about this ahead of time as I suspect, then I will be very dissapointed in you and say you deserved it

[Actually, with over a thousand ships in the area, it isn't even close to a godmod. I have enough theatre defense missiles in one battlecruiser to take down every nuclear weapon you launched that didn't originate from that sub. And you still don't get that you can't kill off leaders without permission, and I refuse to give it.]

[Dude, nobody engage AAMs. And as I understand it, the 747-laser is a 5Mw solid state that has a range measured in thousands of miles, it could easily engage cruise missiles if the targetting suite was good enough (and it should be, hitting a target at less than 30 miles is much easier than hitting a target at 1500 miles.) And frankly, you have two options, either you rescend the attack and we can have a conventional war or the missiles can be shot down, we can find out some of the warheads were nuclear, and the probability of OMP nations using tactical nukes and other systems to take out your nuclear weapons suddenly becomes very high.]

ooc: I will IGNORE you unless some of these nukes hit the fleet, and some should given the number and the fact that these planes were fueled at his nation at the time of launch, he never RPed placing them in the area, at least with my main fleet they are already in range and Doujin was dumb enough to have this close to my nation. The laser planes aren't in this area. Everyother nation RPed what they were placing in the area to defend the conferemce, McLeod didn't

[Actually, with over a thousand ships in the area, it isn't even close to a godmod. I have enough theatre defense missiles in one battlecruiser to take down every nuclear weapon you launched that didn't originate from that sub. And you still don't get that you can't kill off leaders without permission, and I refuse to give it.]
Well you shouldn't of attacked my ships and taken my leader without permission.

At least the nukes from the Ohio that was within a few miles of the Doujin will hit as you can't target them that quickly. Then add in the backfires and Ohio missiles from IDF Southern fleet and you are screwed. Some of these nukes will hit and that's final.

IF you don't want to get nuked don't associate with cowards who only fire on ships when they are made to feel safe

Once on board the GN Dartmouth, one of the fleet carriers, the Granzian delegation was shoved out of the helicopter, and nearly manhandled down the deck. Surrounded by security personnel, Prime Minister Bolash couldn't get a word in. Around the deck, fighter aircraft were readying for take-off, thought the lound hum of the engines belowdeck pervaded the scene. Hardly had they stepped into the passenger compartment, then the door was slammed, and the transport turned and taxied down the runway. A second later, it was airborne, headed to Reunion, then to Granzi.

Looking out the window, Foreign Minister Sun caught a glimpse of the Doujin, beofre it disappeared behind a squall. Still below was the fleet, running at full power. Fighter aircraft took off from the carrier decks, and roared off toward the closest airbase. A small detachment formed a close escort around them, while everything behind disappeared. Inside, it was deadly silent. "Well," he spoke up, "do you still think it was a good idea to attend the conference?"

The Prime Minister turned, "I'm not so sure anymore."

OOC: It seems that there are a bunch of wannabee RPers here who are good at setting things up, but when it comes time to take a hit whine and complain, I took my hit with about 150,000 dead. NOw it's your turn from my nuclear strike

[*shakes head sadly* You simply don't get it, do you? Throwing a temper tantrum just because you probably aren't going to get your way isn't how people RP. You pissed off a group of people who could each on their own wipe the floor with you, what did you expect? And don't be so whiney, it's called a trap, the era where the battlefield was a place of honor has long passed. Also, it would be in your best interest if those nukes didn't land, because you nation will cease to exist, I will make sure of it.

EDIT: Where did you get the idiotic idea that RP was fair? You might want to drop that attitude right now, it won't get you any sympathy or results.]

[*shakes head sadly* You simply don't get it, do you? Throwing a temper tantrum just because you probably aren't going to get your way isn't how people RP. You pissed off a group of people who could each on their own wipe the floor with you, what did you expect? And don't be so whiney, it's called a trap, the era where the battlefield was a place of honor has long passed. Also, it would be in your best interest if those nukes didn't land, because you nation will cease to exist, I will make sure of it.

EDIT: Where did you get the idiotic idea that RP was fair? You might want to drop that attitude right now, it won't get you any sympathy or results.]
The nukes are going to hit and that's that it seems you are throwing the temper tantrum since your whole fleet is in the area, if I don't use the nukes to take them out they will still attack my nation and in the end destroy it. Nukes are the only way to get a good hit in and your fleet will burn along with Doujin and Unum Veritas.

If I was whiney I'd ignore the attack, I didn't so now your fleet will burn, calling me whiney while you justify and try to tell me I shouldn't launch nukes since you know you will lose along with me. A draw is the best I can hope for and what I will get here. It seems you crybabies can't take losses with your OMG !!!! 13243 I got these UBERBATTLESHIPS111444333 OMG!

[Excuse me? Who are you to dictate what damage I will take. This bullshit is the epitome of bad RP and if you don't ammend your tone you will soon find yourself IGNORED by the entirety of the OMP. We decide what damage we take, not you. And just an FYI, only a small part of one of my fleets is in the area and it's sufficiently far away to be out of range of your missile strike, but Doujin's fleet is close enough that my TDMs can engage the IRBMs. And since you still don't seem to compehend, we were perfectly content to take down your navy, and still are if you'd just shut your mouth and keep this conventional, otherwise you die.]

[Excuse me? Who are you to dictate what damage I will take. This bullshit is the epitome of bad RP and if you don't ammend your tone you will soon find yourself IGNORED by the entirety of the OMP. We decide what damage we take, not you. And just an FYI, only a small part of one of my fleets is in the area and it's sufficiently far away to be out of range of your missile strike, but Doujin's fleet is close enough that my TDMs can engage the IRBMs. And since you still don't seem to compehend, we were perfectly content to take down your navy, and still are if you'd just shut your mouth and keep this conventional, otherwise you die.]

OOC: REad, there are no IRBMs, they were destroyed by the Pandora's Box, the nukes mentioned and launched are hypersonic cruise missiles. YOu will recieve damage as you can't stop all the nukes and some will kill the fleet. It seems you don't want to take damage and that is bad RP. It seems you are whining and trying to weasel your way out of here. Go back to RP school, you need it

[*sigh* You're going to listen to me, and you had better listen good, cause this is the last time I'm going to explain things to you. First of all, my battlegroup is 500 kilometers south of the Doujin class ship hosting the conference, I don't think that's even remotely in range of any of your missiles. Second, I have enough CAMDS and TDMs to make up for any inaccuracies in my systems, although I haven't noticed any missiles fired at me directly. Third, I don't have a problem with losing ships, those can easily be replaced, my problem is with losing irreplacable RP characters that I've built up over longer than you've been here, I'm not about to lose them just because you don't understand that you can't win no matter what you do.

Doujin: I suggest we just retcon this entire thing, it isn't worth the hassle.]

[Doujin: I suggest we just retcon this entire thing, it isn't worth the hassle.]

[OOC: Seconded.]

[*sigh* You're going to listen to me, and you had better listen good, cause this is the last time I'm going to explain things to you. First of all, my battlegroup is 500 kilometers south of the Doujin class ship hosting the conference, I don't think that's even remotely in range of any of your missiles. Second, I have enough CAMDS and TDMs to make up for any inaccuracies in my systems, although I haven't noticed any missiles fired at me directly. Third, I don't have a problem with losing ships, those can easily be replaced, my problem is with losing irreplacable RP characters that I've built up over longer than you've been here, I'm not about to lose them just because you don't understand that you can't win no matter what you do.

Doujin: I suggest we just retcon this entire thing, it isn't worth the hassle.]

OOC: If your ships are 500km south they are safe, maybe you can do something like have them leave before it hits like a few others have done. I didn't target you as I did Unum and DOujin, you did not fire at me so I won't fire on your ships if they are far away, I said I fired on you because I assumed they were with the Doujin as everyone else was.

I know I can't win, that's exactly why I will make it so Doujin can't win, the cruise missiles will not be destroyed by the laser systems, those are for high flying ballisic missiles in the atmosphere, not sea skimmers

OOC: excuse my stupidity but what is retcon?

[IDF: Do you not know what Theatre Defense Missiles and Close In Weapons Systems are for? I'll tell you, to take down cruise missiles, and I have enough TDMs to engage any incoming cruise missiles not fired by your subs at point blank. And frankly, Doujin was probably expecting something like your response, so I can pretty much guarantee his point defense systems were ready.

And retcon is something for little punks like you who don't know when to concede a point. We have better things to do than teach you the finer points of RP.]

[IDF: Do you not know what Theatre Defense Missiles and Close In Weapons Systems are for? I'll tell you, to take down cruise missiles, and I have enough TDMs to engage any incoming cruise missiles not fired by your subs at point blank. And frankly, Doujin was probably expecting something like your response, so I can pretty much guarantee his point defense systems were ready.

And retcon is something for little punks like you who don't know when to concede a point. We have better things to do than teach you the finer points of RP.]

You realize that my Ohio at point blank range that fired nukes won't miss as it is like 5-10 miles away and it is going to travel 5 miles and detonate the missile to do maximum damage to a large amount of ships, I doubt you will hit those missiles. Some of the nukes will hit, it seems you need to learn the part of RP when it comes to taking losses whiner.

[Fuck it, I don't have time to deal with you. I tried to make you understand that there are certain rules of etiquette in RP and that your counter wasn't omnipotent, much less a surprise, but maybe you'll listen to Doujin. Frankly, I don't have the patience anymore, my participation in this whole fucked up affair is retroactively converted and so is IDF.]

OOC: Wannabe rpers huh...Lets see IDF, I've played this game a year longer than you. Engaged in more wars than you could ever consider. Have one of the largest navies in this game. And probably brokered more peace deals between smaller nations than anyone else. Wannabe my ass...I might as well dispatch half my navy to the region and squash your fleet with no remorse, half would be some where in the region of 2,000 warships, plus give or take 600 support craft. You really might want to consider insulting people ooc before you do it.

Originally Posted by Scandavian States
[And retcon is something for little punks like you who don't know when to concede a point. We have better things to do than teach you the finer points of RP.]



ROFLMAO! Now that's comedy, your idea of RP'ing is to beat anyone who isn't on your little bandwagon with a verbal sledgehammer till they finally give up in frustration. You wouldn't know good RP'ing if it dropped out of the sky on you...<sarcasm>actually, it wouldn't be able to drop out of the sky, because your precious half mile long battleship, the SS Ubermunch would of course vaporize anything bigger than a gnat, and closer than 1 bajillion million km...</sarcasm>

me alone, plus whatever SS and co decide to dump.]

[It's funny, here you are saying that I somehow, I don't know how, have ubermunch (I assume this is a term akin to wank) battleships, yet I don't see any in my navy. *hit retcon button* I can keep this up all day people and right now my patience for people is absolutely zero.]

OOC: I just love how when I do something that would kill the Doujin, nukes, I'm told it's wrong and all will be shot down. Yeah right, I've launched hundreds of nukes and 1,000s of conventional weapons, all sea skimmers so Lasers will do jack shit. The sea-skimmer is actually nicknamed an AEGIS killer, just look up the Sunburn missile (called by many in the Navy an AEGIS killer), the supersonic sea skimmers are an AEGIS weakness, mine are hypersonic and deadlier (some with nukes)

me alone, plus whatever SS and co decide to dump.]
OOC: I love you hypocritic gomodders it's like "OMG I got this uber 1111113333 battleship 221111 I can't get hurt, if it's scratched your a godmodder 1111 Look at me uber missile killer 11111"

I leave one night - not even leave! - and this thing gets seven pages ahead of me. Please leave me alone for a bit while I sort this mess out...wow.

As far as the Dr_Twist Government is concerned Doujin attacked IDF Forces, Making Doujin the 1st Nation to Strike, In Return Dr_Twist could easily be Dragged into a conflict on IDF's Side at this rate so we continue to ask all Allies of any form not to get involved or this could get worse.

Keep in mind that IDF offered to help any nation that tried to destroy a Doujin and formed a pact for the purpose of trying to destroy a Doujin...and offered $1 TRILLION to anyone who sunk a Doujin. He even said, "No nukes please, well, nukes are okay, but..." or something to that extent. This was only withdrawn indirectly when he dissolved the pact in the face of heavy international pressure.

If you do not view this as a huge threat to your national security...well...

Also bear in mind that the combined ABM forces of the OMP will make nuking anything difficult.

Pogmo Thoin...have you considered that maybe SS has just a bit more roleplay experience than you do?

IDF, we have been giving you (from my observation) just about every chance in the books to allow your nation to survive. We can wage a nice, roleplayed conventional war, or your nation can be glassed.

me alone, plus whatever SS and co decide to dump.]
OOC: I don't roll over for your scum alliance, Doujins ships will sink and if you don't like that then he will be IGNORED My missiles that were 5 miles away will hit and no system would stop them on that short notice

[Who the fuck said anything about AEGIS? Why in God's name would any of us even consider, for even a second, using AEGIS? And since you're still fixated on lasers after I've tried to explain to you the concept of theatre defense missiles and point defense systems, I think I'm validated in pretending that this RP and IDF never existed. *hits retcon button once again*]

[Who the fuck said anything about AEGIS? Why in God's name would any of us even consider, for even a second, using AEGIS? And since you're still fixated on lasers after I've tried to explain to you the concept of theatre defense missiles and point defense systems, I think I'm validated in pretending that this RP and IDF never existed. *hits retcon button once again*]
Unum Veritas said he had AEGIS, I know I know about the defense systems, but I'm saying all missiles won't be stopped and some will hit killing some ships, Doujin has to take some heavy losses here, you don't as you weren't launched at, but he does. He is a godmodder it appears who can't take a hit

OOC: I don't roll over for your scum alliance, Doujins ships will sink and if you don't like that then he will be IGNORED My missiles that were 5 miles away will hit and no system would stop them on that short notice

[Think before you speak. I'm not part of the OMP. And I reiterate- if SS or Doujin accept and take casualties, your RPing days with the nation of IDF are effectively over.]

[Think before you speak. I'm not part of the OMP. And I reiterate- if SS takes casualties, your RPing days with the nation of IDF are effectively over.]
SS doesn't have to take heavy casualties, his fleet wasn't fired on and any casualties are Doujins fault for inviting them when SS said Doujin knew how I'd react.

In Kelanis Strategic Command

An overlaid projection map of IDF is completely blanketed by red dots indicating nuclear targets and the large circles indicating areas of effect and fallout radii.

[*just shakes head and leaves to avoid exploding*

Don't bother Kelanis, I've IGNORED the punk. My head is pounding from the sudden spike in blood pressure and I've decided I'd like to live to an old age.]

[*just shakes head and leaves to avoid exploding*]

[Does that mean I get to kill him now?]

[If you'd like.]

[Mass destruction occuring in 5...]

[Mass destruction occuring in 5...]
IGNORE, you just pop in here and start posting when I see no reason for you to be here besides friendship with SS who is 500 km south of my nuke targets, Doujin will suffer not SS

OOC: god damn...

IC:
[<i>]Message to Kelanis[/<i>]

The Empire, and the Emperor respectfully ask you to stand down your weapons. There is no need for such a strike against IDF. We beseech your excellancy to have restraint with use of nuclear weapons. As a nuclear power ourselves, we feel as if using such weapons even in retaliation should be kept to a minimum. Consider convential strikes first, and more so, consider a resolution through diplomatic channels.

With the utmost respect,
His Royal Highness
Emperor Newt XVII

IDF, unfortunately for you, he has every right to start posting here. Last I checked, he was a nation, largely respected roleplayer, and in possession of the capability to do what he plans to.

You can't selectively ignore what you don't like. They gave you the chance...for a conventional, better roleplay...consider yourself lucky, IDF, that I am not pelting your nation with every cruise missile in my arsenal.

If half were civilians, I'm at a loss as to what they were doing on your battleships.

I used my nukes to avenge the deaths of almost 200,000 IDF citizens who were intentionally targeted, over half were civilians. Unlike Doujin, I had the capacity and heart not to fire at Civilians

IGNORE, you just pop in here and start posting when I see no reason for you to be here besides friendship with SS who is 500 km south of my nuke targets, Doujin will suffer not SS

[Quit your whining. I am an ex-member of UnAPS and regardless your use of nuclear weapons has made you an international pariah. So therefore, I think it would be better off for you to just let yourself get glassed, and start over rather than face a blanket ignore along the lines of Whittier. What, did you think i would just let you nuke a multinational convention full of my allies (or ex-ones) and get away with it?]

[Quit your whining. I am an ex-member of UnAPS and regardless your use of nuclear weapons has made you an international pariah. So therefore, I think it would be better off for you to just let yourself get glassed, and start over rather than face a blanket ignore along the lines of Whittier. What, did you think i would just let you nuke a multinational convention full of my allies (or ex-ones) and get away with it?]

An Doujins killing of 200,000 doesn't make him a pariah, my nuking would kill a maximum of 100,000 so stop your whining, I'm not going to do anything based on what a nation who I've never seen in 4 or 5 months says

[Yeah, I see how it is. It's okay for you to nuke a bunch of people (assuming that those involved just don't IGNORE your sorry ass), but when it comes time to take your licks you start saying others don't have the right to hit back? Bullshit, take your beating like a man, even though I suspect you don't even begin to qualify.]

ooc: THEY FIRED ON HIM FIRST, YOU PATHETIC PIECE OF SHIT!! IN MY BOOK, HE HAS THE GODDAMNED RIGHT TO DO ANYTHING NECESSARY TO PROTECT HIS PEOPLES!!

[Yeah, I see how it is. It's okay for you to nuke a bunch of people (assuming that those involved just don't IGNORE your sorry ass), but when it comes time to take your licks you start saying others don't have the right to hit back? Bullshit, take your beating like a man, even though I suspect you don't even begin to qualify.]
ROFLMAO, yeah, then why don't your take your beating like a man and have the fleet of DOujin and Unum Veritas sink. You are a hipocrite

ooc: THEY FIRED ON HIM FIRST, YOU PATHETIC PIECE OF SHIT!! IN MY BOOK, HE HAS THE GODDAMNED RIGHT TO DO ANYTHING NECESSARY TO PROTECT HIS PEOPLES!!

Watch the caps. AND the insults. And iIve found a problem with your diamond armor.

"WHAT!!! They're attacking!"

"Yes Mr. President"

"I knew this would happen. Order code Amber now!"

"Aye aye!"

The aide presses against the side of his ear three times, and a signal is sent out to the Kamata Delta Fortress base.

"Sir, we've got Amber alert!"

"Alright, do it then!"

The special ops team comes in with two keys, inserts them into their respective slots, and counts down to one, then turn the keys at the same exact time.

Kamatian satellites move closer to the conference, jamming any other satellites and sending the message with the jam "Don't worry, it's only temporary"

These satellites happened to be Kamata's newest toy, their linear satellites. Capable of launching anything with metal content in it, they can wipe out an entire country in a matter of hours.

"Fire the warning shots!" The commanders echoed throughout the command room of the base

The satellites pull in an asteroid the size of a human, and each fire a single asteroid down at the fleet, missing only by inches.

"I hope that will keep them thinking."

By the time that the asteroids reached the ocean, they were the size of a fist. But with the wave they made, even the famous Doujin crew would know when to stop.

Watch the caps. AND the insults. And iIve found a problem with your diamond armor.
yes yes, i saw.... consider that project having been trashed...

[At least Doujin didn't use nuclear weapons to do it. No, I don't necessarily agree with Doujin's actions here, but I am going to retaliate on his behalf anyways since your use of nuclear weapons was completely uncalled for. You used nuclear weapons, and you've earned yourself a counterstrike. You can either accept that fact, or this whole thing will cease to be.

If you wanted to avenge your deaths, then do it using strategy and conventional firepower... because nukes make for really lame RP.

OMFGZ0RZ UR GLASSED !01010!)1)!LOLO1!1!

And unless something occurs here very soon, you either are

A. going to die, or

B. earn a far-reaching IGNORE.

"WHAT!!! They're attacking!"

"Yes Mr. President"

"I knew this would happen. Order code Amber now!"

"Aye aye!"

The aide presses against the side of his ear three times, and a signal is sent out to the Kamata Delta Fortress base.

"Sir, we've got Amber alert!"

"Alright, do it then!"

The special ops team comes in with two keys, inserts them into their respective slots, and counts down to one, then turn the keys at the same exact time.

Kamatian satellites move closer to the conference, jamming any other satellites and sending the message with the jam "Don't worry, it's only temporary"

These satellites happened to be Kamata's newest toy, their linear satellites. Capable of launching anything with metal content in it, they can wipe out an entire country in a matter of hours.

"Fire the warning shots!" The commanders echoed throughout the command room of the base

The satellites pull in an asteroid the size of a human, and each fire a single asteroid down at the fleet, missing only by inches.

"I hope that will keep them thinking."

By the time that the asteroids reached the ocean, they were the size of a fist. But with the wave they made, even the famous Doujin crew would know when to stop.
ooc: Good to have you here, Kamata.

OOC: So I should have the assumption my message to you, Kelanis, was ignored? Not that it matters, I feel the same way as you.

[At least Doujin didn't use nuclear weapons to do it. No, I don't necessarily agree with Doujin's actions here, but I am going to retaliate on his behalf anyways since your use of nuclear weapons was completely uncalled for. You

If you wanted to avenge your deaths, then do it using strategy and conventional firepower... because nukes make for really lame RP.

OMFGZ0RZ UR GLASSED !01010!)1)!LOLO1!1!

And unless something occurs here very soon, you either are

A. going to die, or

B. earn a far-reaching IGNORE.


I don't have a good ability to do it conventionally so I used tactical nukes to do equal damage to him and then stopped, All his casualties will be military while most of mine are civilians, if I tried to inflict conventional war damage I know Doujin would be saying well the missiles won't penetrate the armor, my uber defense systems shoot down all 4,500 missiles etc. this is the only way ot do it, try and understand that and by helping Doujin you are encouraging him to do it again

I've got to go to work, be back 11 pm eastern

ooc: Good to have you here, Kamata.
Same to you.

Everyone: Consider any satellites in this area unable to operate without extreme measures. I'm sending out a disrupting signal to anything going up to them. Anyone who wants to use a satellite must request it from me first.

[At least Doujin didn't use nuclear weapons to do it. No, I don't necessarily agree with Doujin's actions here, but I am going to retaliate on his behalf anyways since your use of nuclear weapons was completely uncalled for. You used nuclear weapons, and you've earned yourself a counterstrike. You can either accept that fact, or this whole thing will cease to be.

If you wanted to avenge your deaths, then do it using strategy and conventional firepower... because nukes make for really lame RP.

OMFGZ0RZ UR GLASSED !01010!)1)!LOLO1!1!

And unless something occurs here very soon, you either are

A. going to die, or

B. earn a far-reaching IGNORE.

Ahem, read The Whittier Pact Charter


Article 3: We declare the right of all nations to acquire WMD's and affirm their right to use all means necessary for self defense including nuclear weapons. Further in the event of war with IFDO, the United Socialist States of Whittier and its allies hereby declare the right to launch a nuclear first strike for the slightest reason.

"WHAT!!! They're attacking!"

"Yes Mr. President"

"I knew this would happen. Order code Amber now!"

"Aye aye!"

The aide presses against the side of his ear three times, and a signal is sent out to the Kamata Delta Fortress base.

"Sir, we've got Amber alert!"

"Alright, do it then!"

The special ops team comes in with two keys, inserts them into their respective slots, and counts down to one, then turn the keys at the same exact time.

Kamatian satellites move closer to the conference, jamming any other satellites and sending the message with the jam "Don't worry, it's only temporary"

These satellites happened to be Kamata's newest toy, their linear satellites. Capable of launching anything with metal content in it, they can wipe out an entire country in a matter of hours.

"Fire the warning shots!" The commanders echoed throughout the command room of the base

The satellites pull in an asteroid the size of a human, and each fire a single asteroid down at the fleet, missing only by inches.

"I hope that will keep them thinking."

By the time that the asteroids reached the ocean, they were the size of a fist. But with the wave they made, even the famous Doujin crew would know when to stop.

"Burn-through, target azimuth 275, holding steady."

"Stand by."

The 37" Magnetic Accelerator Cannon battery pointed skyward, rotated, then stopped.

"Fire one."

The overlapping neodymium coils of the massive cannon produced a magnetocumulative field that literally squeezed the five-ton ferric iron/titanium projectile to the point of singularity, and then stopped.

The shell was accelerated to blinding speed and cleared the cannon tube in less than a quarter of a second, sending it hurtling along the huge cannon tube and into orbit straight at a Kamatan satellite.

Around Kelanis, thirty-six similar batteries belched their shells at incalculable velocities, all aiming for the satellites.

Ahem, read The Whittier Pact Charter

Sorry Wickit, nobody here acknowledges Whittier's existance. IDF tried to bring him in earlier, but nobody is going to heed anything he says.

[At least Doujin didn't use nuclear weapons to do it. No, I don't necessarily agree with Doujin's actions here, but I am going to retaliate on his behalf anyways since your use of nuclear weapons was completely uncalled for. You used nuclear weapons, and you've earned yourself a counterstrike. You can either accept that fact, or this whole thing will cease to be.

If you wanted to avenge your deaths, then do it using strategy and conventional firepower... because nukes make for really lame RP.

OMFGZ0RZ UR GLASSED !01010!)1)!LOLO1!1!

And unless something occurs here very soon, you either are

A. going to die, or

B. earn a far-reaching IGNORE.
You launch a nuke, you get pounded. I'm an April 03 nation, check my pop.

Metal bits and pieces hitting your country fired from linear satellites don't exactly make for a nice celebration party.

He had every right to launch a nuke. Doujin made an aggressive act, he countered it.

It may not have been what you or I would have done, but he did it. You really should be nuking Doujin for starting this whole shebang in the first place.

OOC: So I should have the assumption my message to you, Kelanis, was ignored? Not that it matters, I feel the same way as you.

IDF's attitude is not encouraging me to heed it very much.

You launch a nuke, you get pounded. I'm an April 03 nation, check my pop.

Metal bits and pieces hitting your country fired from linear satellites don't exactly make for a nice celebration party.

He had every right to launch a nuke. Doujin made an aggressive act, he countered it.

It may not have been what you or I would have done, but he did it. You really should be nuking Doujin for starting this whole shebang in the first place.

I'll pound you backwards into the Stone Age if you want to play hardball. If, that is, you want superheated plasma, magnetic railgun shells, and cumulative-shell compression Nova nukes raining down on you as well.

[Out for a bit, contemplating whether i should just launch the RBIMs (Really Big Ignore Missiles)]

"Burn-through, target azimuth 275, holding steady."

"Stand by."

The 37" Magnetic Accelerator Cannon battery pointed skyward, rotated, then stopped.

"Fire one."

The overlapping neodymium coils of the massive cannon produced a magnetocumulative field that literally squeezed the five-ton ferric iron/titanium projectile to the point of singularity, and then stopped.

The shell was accelerated to blinding speed and cleared the cannon tube in less than a quarter of a second, sending it hurtling along the huge cannon tube and into orbit straight at a Kamatan satellite.

Around Kelanis, thirty-six similar batteries belched their shells at incalculable velocities, all aiming for the satellites.
"Satellite stations one through fifty seven, fire at will!"

The satellites turn around, target the projectiles being fired at them, slowly take in asteroids the size of a car, and fire them straight at the incoming projectiles.

One satellite was hit and sent sprawling into space. 90% other incoming projectiles were put in reverse and sent straight back at the batteries. The rest of the incoming projectiles missed due to ours moving into another position.

The satellites them target Kelanis, and begin firing whatever they can bring in at his country.

"Sir, we can already see the impacts on the map! These satellites are impressive, more than we hoped for."

"Agreed."

OOC: Fair enough, understandable indeed. No matter, I agree with you on this matter.

IC:
"My lord" followed by a knock into the Royal Chambers. Emperor Newt XVII stepped out, dressed in his tuxedo covered by a silk smoking jacket. "Sire, we have recieved word from our delegation." Said a palace aide to his emperor as he bowed low. The Emperor smiled, and said "Excellent, no problems I hope."
The aide looked around for a second, "Sire, that is not the case. The fleet itself encountered no difficulties. But there was a strike against the members of the delegation on land."
The Emperor, looking shocked, responded "Send my condolences to the nations who were struck. Enlarge the touring fleet, send the 1st Royal and the 2nd Royal Fleets to enhance its posistion. Take up defensive points around the region. And get the Military Council conveened."

The aide snapped his feet together, bowed, and ran off.

I'll pound you backwards into the Stone Age if you want to play hardball. If, that is, you want superheated plasma, magnetic railgun shells, and cumulative-shell compression Nova nukes raining down on you as well.

[Out for a bit, contemplating whether i should just launch the RBIMs (Really Big Ignore Missiles)]
You've been IGNORED Kelanis.

You're a terrible RPer.

You've been IGNORED Kelanis.

You're a terrible RPer.

Look who's talking.

This thread no longer exists.

[This will turn into a flame-fest very soon.]

"Fire!"

Fifty plasma warheads scream up into space, and explode in a wall of magnetically guided flame. Incoming bits of metal turn to slag and vaporize.

The MAC cannons power up their magnets and slingshot the returned rounds straight back into space.
Meanwhile, the VAPOR satellite repositions itself to high orbit, locks onto the nearest Kamatan satellite, and unloads several terawatts of plasma onto it.

"Sir, it's getting pretty bad down here."
1) You're ignored
2) I've jammed all satellites in the surrounding area.
3) Uhm... no. MAC cannons are not going to do jack to things flying back at you well over mach 15.
4) I don't RP at that tech level of plasma warheads. 2X IGNORED

1. So are you
2. Your jamming is not omnipotent and regardless the VAPOR is crewed by actual people
3. No way in hell your satellites are going to divert a projectile with that much momentum- MACs weigh five tons apiece and travel at escape velocity
4. Plasma isn't that far ahead...

An indepedant comment:

Can everyone please step back, calm down and stop arguing. This is a game and it's meant to be fun, so stop arguing.

This message is hidden because Kelanis is on your ignore list.

*Dances* Go vB, Go vB, Go Go, Go vB....

This message is hidden because Kelanis is on your ignore list.

*Dances* Go vB, Go vB, Go Go, Go vB....
Huh?

An indepedant comment:

Can everyone please step back, calm down and stop arguing. This is a game and it's meant to be fun, so stop arguing. Really people, your guys are probably a little too tense...

An indepedant comment:

Can everyone please step back, calm down and stop arguing. This is a game and it's meant to be fun, so stop arguing.
Talk to Doujin. He attacked first, IDF just countered with nukes... (perfectly reasonable action in his situation....)... And as far as I'm concerned, Doujin is a warmonger and is hereby IGNORED by me.

vBulletin is the name of this forums software. Web developers, like myself, prefer to call it vB though. I was dancing because you can ignore people with it.

It probably is a little bit tense, but I'm also in question as to why he was shooting at me... I didn't hit anything but the ocean and was only making my presence aware to the Doujin fleet and letting him know that I have the firepower ready and available to wipe out his entire whatshisname feet sitting right above him.

That wasn;t really the point of what I was saying. Your first comment on this thread esspecially was very provocative.

Okay. Here are the numbers:

MAC projectile weighs 70000000 grains (5 tons or 10,000 pounds)
Caliber is 37 inches
Muzzle velocity is 36960 ft/s (7 miles/sec)

By these numbers, a MAC projectile has:
212,289,674,892 joules of kinetic energy
369600000 kg.m/s of momentum.

So, in order for your 'linear' satellite to divert an oncoming projectile with this much momentum, PLUS the energy needed to accelerate the projectile to Mach 15, your satellites would have to be... well, damned huge. You'd need superconductive coils, and from what I see, your linear satellites capture small bits and pieces of metal and asteroids. This is no small bit of metal.

That wasn;t really the point of what I was saying. Your first comment on this thread esspecially was very provocative.
Well, let one of your closer allies be caught off-hand by some fool that fired on a naval and aerial parade that was conducted because of his presence... THEN read all of these foolish posts saying that your ally had no right to fire a nuclear device at the agressor, who is VERY close to his shore...then tell me if you feel the same way...

Okay. Here are the numbers:

MAC projectile weighs 70000000 grains (5 tons or 10,000 pounds)
Caliber is 37 inches
Muzzle velocity is 36960 ft/s (7 miles/sec)

By these numbers, a MAC projectile has:
212,289,674,892 joules of kinetic energy
369600000 kg.m/s of momentum.

So, in order for your 'linear' satellite to divert an oncoming projectile with this much momentum, PLUS the energy needed to accelerate the projectile to Mach 15, your satellites would have to be... well, damned huge. You'd need superconductive coils, and from what I see, your linear satellites capture small bits and pieces of metal and asteroids. This is no small bit of metal.
For your information, my satellites are, well, damned huge. They have superconductive coils, and I can load things into them. The sheer velocity of the impact from a car sized metal asteroid and whatever you're saying would cause your projectile to stop and implode, and mine to shatter into a million pieces heading your nation. Also, if you really want to rp at that tech level, you'll be looking for my space fleet, which by the way, has the figures to obliterate almost any nation via orbital bombardment.

Well, let one of your closer allies be caught off-hand by some fool that fired on a naval and aerial parade that was conducted because of his presence... THEN read all of these foolish posts saying that your ally had no right to fire a nuclear device at the agressor, who is VERY close to his shore...then tell me if you feel the same way...
You dont have to get OOC angry. Anyway Im not going to allow myself to be sunked into an argument with you.

And this is why you should decide the outcome in tg before you start a war.

I'm not going to talk about asteroid-firing satellites...but...just wondering, IDF, how come your 'parade' of ships happened to be armed with nuclear weapons? ...

A satellite that size is impractical. It would be the size of.... well, shit. Maybe a few kilometers in diameter? Meaning it would

A. be impractical to maintain 57 of them, as they would be incredibly expensive
B. make them all huge targets.

Suffice to say, a system capable of generating a field strong enough to shatter a MAC projectile is more appropriate for a spaceship... not a satellite.

BTW... how exactly do you manage to get a human-sized asteroid OR little tiny bits of metal through the atmosphere? They'd melt....

:upyours:

I'm not going to talk about asteroid-firing satellites...but...just wondering, IDF, how come your 'parade' of ships happened to be armed with nuclear weapons? ...

:rolleyes:

My guess is that IDF came in here with his nuclear six-gun fest already planned.

You dont have to get OOC angry. Anyway Im not going to allow myself to be sunked into an argument with you.
I apologize, I was in no way trying to argue with you. I was simply explaining why i was a little ticked off about the fact that Doujin attacked IDF, who had previously said that it wished to work together with Doujin on the matter of constructing ships primarily used to counter Doujin Class ships...I am sorry if I sounded derrogatory or aything of that nature, forgive me...