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The United States of Wolf America is very much interested in joining in space relations with Helveticuz. We will send a science team, 10 top pilots to be trained in to astronauts, 10 soldiers for security. My leader, Lord JWolf, will like to know how much a the AG-1 VentureStar cost. We can fund the ISEC Moon Base 14 billions. Plus two nation in this program are my alles.(Cullenus & Slagshta)


-Minister of Foreign Affairs
Jane Wastons

Helveticuz has given me the right to accept nations into ISEC as he is absent right now. We are very glad to hear that our ally is would like to join ISEC. And yes of course you may join. And contact NWV for information on the AG-1, in fact Cullenus would like to purchase some ourselves. Also I am sending you a telegram with the password to our region if you are interested in joining, however it is not required. Welcome to ISEC!

-Blind Neurosis-
Also to make it official for everyone to see, Blind Neurosis has also been accepted into ISEC. Congrats and welcome Blind Neurosis.

Helveticuz has given me the right to accept nations into ISEC as he is absent right now. We are very glad to hear that our ally is would like to join ISEC. And yes of course you may join. And contact NWV for information on the AG-1, in fact Cullenus would like to purchase some ourselves. Also I am sending you a telegram with the password to our region if you are interested in joining, however it is not required. Welcome to ISEC!


The United States of Wolf America thanks you for leting us in the ISEC. I have just order from Gregor Corporation for 50 Atlantic cargo shuttles & 5 Corsair Pinnaces. After the pilots become astronauts, they can pilot the Atlantic cargo shuttles to move thing for the ISEC. Then my pilots can train other Wolf America's pilots to fly the shuttles.

-Minister of Foreign Affairs
Jane Wastons

List of nations that owe money is coming soon....stay tuned

Prof. Malik Chebaro
ISEC Representative

The nation of Rinceweed would like to help in any way we can. We already have nearly our entire population in orbit around the Earth, but we have never at any point shared research with others. We would like to send a small team of 3 scientists to this space port of yours. If possible, we would like to send a single guard with them. I should warn, he would be given a small handgun, but with only a single clip. For ceremonial purposes you see.

Also, we would like to ask if any parts are needed? We have a few mothballed ships currently presiding in the Tantanis, a small orbital currently orbiting the moon. We only have 2 in close to working condition. We'll can fix them up within a ([OOC]:NS) day or so and send them down. The things aint much, but they might prove useful for transporting small satellites or parts from the surface to orbit and vice versa. You of course also have permission to take them apart for use in other ships. We only ask that if you accept them, you don't outfit them with weapons for security purposes without asking first. The things, as I said, are pretty old, and we'd need to make sure they're safe for modification first.

Lastly, we are willing to make a fairly large grant to this astounding project once we see what real results it can produce. Quite simply, if you can produce a craft that can EASILY get from Tantanis and back, we are more than willing to donate a near limitless amount of resources and personnel to this remarkable feat of ingenuity.

Would all this be acceptable?

This would be fine by me. What do the rest of you think? And also would you like to be a member of the ISECAG (ISEC Aid Group)? You basically get same benefits, but not that you woudld need them considering you are far more advanced than us, that's basically what the ISECAG was created for. So far Balrogga is the sole member of ISECAG.

Also I'm not sure if Democratic Colonies has officially been accepted. So yeah Democratic Colonies is now member of ISEC. Welcome!

TO Helveticuz... for easy reference.

New ISEC nations:
Democratic Colonies
Wolf America
Blind Neurosis

New ISECAG nations:
Rinceweed

This is certainly fine to me. What exactly will my duties be as an ISECAG member? Am I to assume that I will help those nations who have preferred to stay on terra firma, and do my best to get them beyond the reaches of the planet?.....'n' whatnot?

[EDIT]: 120 billion? Well, i'm sure I can find some spare change.
Don't worry, the amount will be paid over a total of 2 ([OOC]: RL) days.

Also, our two small transports will be arriving at the space port after they stop off for supplies at the small 3000 person colony I have remaining on Earth.

Here is an update on how the nations of ISEC stand as far as dues for the Space Station:

Cost of project: 4.2 Trillion USD

Estimated amount paid: 2.8 Trillion USD

Amount still required for completion: 1.2 Trillion USD

Due to the many genorous nations that donated more than the original alloted amount of 180 Billion, and the recent incoming of new members, The ISEC nation representative committee has concluded that if each new nation contributed 83 Billion, then we could finish all expenses as planned. Thank you to the nations that contributed more than the allotted amount. THis list will update every time I confirm that a nation has paid.

NON CONTRIBUTING NATIONS:

Helveticuz OWE 83 BILLION
The NAS OWE 83 BILLION
Vistadin OWE 83 BILLION
Jamnation OWE 83 BILLION
The Electric Monks OWE 83 BILLION
The Dublin Commune OWE 83 BILLION
Bureaucracia OWE OWE 83 BILLION
Marak OWE OWE 83 BILLION
Cockcephus OWE 83 BILLION
Quillium OWE OWE 83 BILLION
Ehrana OWEOWE 83 BILLION
Catabaronia OWE 83 BILLION
Ugisi OWE OWE 83 BILLION
Scimar OWE 83 BILLION
Falangist Reich OWE 83 BILLION

PARTIALLY PAID NATIONS:

Nazi Weaponized Virus OWE 23 BILLION
Wolf America WILL BE PAID OFF ON THE 20th

PAID NATIONS:

Rinceweed PAID
Cullenus PAID
Siesatia PAID
Slagshta PAID
Balrogga PAID
Democratic Colonies PAID
Blind Neurosis PAID

IF I screwed up on this list in any way, or you feel that you don't want to contribute to the space station please inform me. Thank you.

Professor Malik Chebaro
ISEC Representative

Here is an update on how the nations of ISEC stand as far as dues for the Space Station:

Cost of project: 4.2 Trillion USD

Estimated amount paid: 2.7 Trillion USD

Amount still required for completion: 1.3 Trillion USD

Due to the many genorous nations that donated more than the original alloted amount of 180 Billion, and the recent incoming of new members, The ISEC nation representative committee has concluded that if each new nation contributed 83 Billion, then we could finish all expenses as planned. Thank you to the nations that contributed more than the allotted amount. THis list will update every time I confirm that a nation has paid.

NON CONTRIBUTING NATIONS:


Wolf America OWE 83 BILLION


IF I screwed up on this list in any way, or you feel that you don't want to contribute to the space station please inform me. Thank you.

Professor Malik Chebaro
ISEC Representative

We will pay 13,000,000,000 now.
Then 10,000,000,000 for the next year. (RL day)
Then 20,000,000,000 for the next three years. (3 RL Days)

The money has been send.

-Minister of Foreign Affairs
Jane Wastons

Whilst we appreciate the offer of a lowered cost, we are more than willing to pay the original 120 billion if necessary.
Also, if any one (1) nation is unable to pay for any reason, we are willing to help by paying the new price for them. Quite simply, we just want to help others live what was once our dream, to live in space, away from the wars of Earth.
Well, the two tranports we sent should arrive any day now with our small team of scientists plus the ceremonial guard.

Whilst we appreciate the offer of a lowered cost, we are more than willing to pay the original 120 billion if necessary.
Also, if any one (1) nation is unable to pay for any reason, we are willing to help by paying the new price for them. Quite simply, we just want to help others live what was once our dream, to live in space, away from the wars of Earth.
Well, the two tranports we sent should arrive any day now with our small team of scientists plus the ceremonial guard.

The project cost is concrete Rinceweed. Other nations paid much more than the original cost, therefore lowering it for everyone else.

Rinceweed, have you wired your payment yet?

Malik Chebaro
ISEC Representative

We have been having trouble with our cash flow. A few bugs in our administration, nothing more. The money is being sent now.

Are next payment of 10 billion have been send.


-High Commander of the USWA Space Fleet
Hal Johnson

The Kingdom of Cullenus would like to kick off and speed up the completion process of this astounding project. Therefore we are wiring 1.2 trillion USD to the project fund. We hope this contribution would be most appreciated.

The Kingdom of Cullenus would like to kick off and speed up the completion process of this astounding project. Therefore we are wiring 1.2 trillion USD to the project fund. We hope this contribution would be most appreciated.

Um....this is both unexpected and suprising.....never in my life would I have thought that a nation would pay more than half of this project. That even makes me look embarassed because I am the prime sponser. Cullenus, your money has been accepted, and in 7 NS years, the space station will be in orbit. Cullenus has been promoted to an official lead sponser in this project. However, we still do not have clearance from Helvitcuz to put ISEC in space. The space station will be built, but will be vacant until the leader of ISEC confirms that we are allowed to move in. If the ISEC leader denies this oppurtunity, full refunds will be given and Slagshta will pay for the entire thing putting us in debt (so lets hope he allows it). THe engineers are hard at work and 5 of the 30 sections have been built. I will give daily updates on how the project is doing.

Prof. Malik Chebaro
ISEC Representative

draganovia is very intrested in having a space program. pleaese telegraph for further contact.

Here is an update on how the nations of ISEC stand as far as dues for the Space Station:

Cost of project: 4.2 Trillion USD

Estimated amount paid: 4.2 Trillion USD

Estimated time completed project: 7 NS years from today

ALL NATIONS HAVE BEEN PAID FOR BY CULLENUS! PLEASE THANK HIM WHEN YOU HAVE A CHANCE.

PLEASE ALSO SEND WAY MORE ENGINEERS! THIS WILL SPEED UP THE PROCESS BY A LOT!!!

Professor Malik Chebaro
ISEC Representative

draganovia is very intrested in having a space program. pleaese telegraph for further contact.

If you havn't done so yet, read the first post. If you agree with everything and accept it then you're accepted. Telegram me for the region and password if you wish to also move.

We look forward to your future participation in the ISEC program!

The Democratic Colonies would like to extend our most sincere thanks to Cullenus. We believe that Cullenus has truely shown the spirit of self-less exploration for the benefit of all in its monumental contribution to the program.

To answer Shagsta's call for more engineers, another 400 engineers from the All Colonies University and the Andromeda Colony Institute of Technology have been assigned to work on the space station.

Um....this is both unexpected and suprising.....never in my life would I have thought that a nation would pay more than half of this project. That even makes me look embarassed because I am the prime sponser. Cullenus, your money has been accepted, and in 7 NS years, the space station will be in orbit. Cullenus has been promoted to an official lead sponser in this project. However, we still do not have clearance from Helvitcuz to put ISEC in space. The space station will be built, but will be vacant until the leader of ISEC confirms that we are allowed to move in. If the ISEC leader denies this oppurtunity, full refunds will be given and Slagshta will pay for the entire thing putting us in debt (so lets hope he allows it). THe engineers are hard at work and 5 of the 30 sections have been built. I will give daily updates on how the project is doing.

Prof. Malik Chebaro
ISEC Representative

So we do not have to pay for space station now.
Thank you, Cullenus. You have saved United States of Wolf America 60 billion dollars that could going to other project in the ISEC.
One more question, our my men done will their training now?
We have the 50 Atlantic cargo shuttles, now. Plus my pilots are trianing in them now. There are 6 pilots, in Wolf America, that can fly it.
If the ISEC needs us to move something, I can use two because two pilots have to stay in the USWA.


-High Commander of the USWA Space Fleet
Hal Johnson

Alrighty. We have, of course, many people skilled in the design and construction of Space stations (For obvious reasons). It will cost us a bit, but we can send one of our Harigan class super-heavy transports to the space dock with, say, 300 engineers? We will try to put a good amount of diversity in the people we send, so as to speed up all areas of the stations creation.

Just so I know, is this space dock in a city? Not the outskirts of a city with nothing for quite a bit around, but literally in the heart of a city or thereabouts? If not, the transport can land about a kilometer from the dock, and the Engineers can proceed in ground transports (Don't worry, we'll supply them. The Harigan is designed to carry a large amount of soldiers and vehicles, around 500 each. We stopped using them long ago when we saw how inefficient they were. Not much point having troops going to the ground in giant metal coffins. One ship goes down, and we have 500 dead men. Not good.).

[EDIT]: And, of course, good show Cullenus. The great help is most appreciated.

we agree to terms and conditions. we will send 300 engineers, 200 scientists and 50 astronauts via Black Wolf helicopters. we are currently building our own craft dubbed "Star Wolf 1" we will upload pictures as soon as we are done with prototype testing. and thanks Cullenus!!

While the People's Republic of Novagorad is neither interested nor in the economic position to contribute monitarily to your space program we will provide plans for our Kwat Drive Systems K-98 C 'Heavylifter' Xenon Ion Propulsion System or XIPS (pronounced zips) drive, they provide 120mN (31 666 620 lbs.) thrust at a fraction of the fuel of a conventional solid state drive. In exchange we request that a Novagorad representitive be present on any flights using this system.

Dr. Dani Quee
Minister of Science
Novagorad

we agree to terms and conditions. we will send 300 engineers, 200 scientists and 50 astronauts via Black Wolf helicopters. we are currently building our own craft dubbed "Star Wolf 1" we will upload pictures as soon as we are done with prototype testing. and thanks Cullenus!!

You are certainly welcome.

ooc: btw, I already TG'd you if you would like to join the region.

Here some stat on the Atlantic Cargo Shuttle (http://img24.photobucket.com/albums/v73/Jadeite/heavytransportcivilian.jpg).
Mass (Tons): 650
Length (Meters): 60
Wingspan (Min/Max): 20/40
Height ( Min/Max): 8/10
Fuselage Dimensions (L/W/H): 60m x 12m x 8m
Maximum Acceleration (G): 375
Crew Complement: 4 (Pilot, Co-Pilot, Engineer, Sensor Operator)
Passengers: 10 (Emergency: 300)
~The Atlantic has a 3,000m³ (40m x 10m x 7.5m) pressurized cargo deck with access through a full-width/full-height rear cargo door, and two side hatches and an airlock connecting it to the forward crew deck, used when the cargo deck is depressurized for space-to-space cargo transfers. The crew deck has a seperate airlock as well. The Atlantic is standard equipment aboard all Verniian freighters.


-High Commander of the USWA Space Fleet
Hal Johnson

Plus we have trained 6 more pilots to fly the Atlantic Cargo Shuttle. So the total of pilots that can fly it is 12. If the ISEC needs us to move something, We can use ten of them because two pilots have to stay in the USWA.

-High Commander of the USWA Space Fleet
Hal Johnson

We have a new Long Range heavy Payload Cargo Ship coming out in one NS Year,we believe that is will be able to speed construction, and will agree to loan it to ISEC for use with the Space Station. If you would like to arrange to own it, the lowest price I can offer is 90 billion, and thats with a major loss in money for my side, we will manage, and I hope you will allow us to at least loan it to you. The atlantic shuttle would be PERFECT fo use when sending up smaller things, when using the heavy payload lifter would be uneconomical, in which I can guess would be 60% of the time.

Specs on the Mariadoc Class Heavy Payload Lifter.
Mass: 10,000 Tons
Length: 1 Kilometer
Width: 300 metres
Hight: 200 feet at lowest 400 feet at highest
Max Speed: FTL
Crew: 2 Pilots, 20 Engineer, 100 Crew, 50 Marine contingent
Passenger load capability: Unknown
The payload lifter was created with the sole purpose of transport, combat roles would be minor, although, it is able to serve as a minelayyer, and troop Transport. The entire ship is presurized, and it boasts the biggest engines our engineers have been able to create, the drawback, being MASSIVE power consumption, 350% what a battleship uses in battle. However, its powersorces are always close by, and a Ram scoop is standard equipment aboard all Siesatian ships.

OOC- Wolf, you beat me to building a payload carrier, dangit, now it'l seem as though I was copying you, I came up with this idea as a troop transport, but this role fits better.

OOC- Oh, in case your wondering, yes, we like to build things VERY big. LMAO

Here some stat on the Atlantic Cargo Shuttle (http://img24.photobucket.com/albums/v73/Jadeite/heavytransportcivilian.jpg).
Mass (Tons): 650
Length (Meters): 60
Wingspan (Min/Max): 20/40
Height ( Min/Max): 8/10
Fuselage Dimensions (L/W/H): 60m x 12m x 8m
Maximum Acceleration (G): 375
Crew Complement: 4 (Pilot, Co-Pilot, Engineer, Sensor Operator)
Passengers: 10 (Emergency: 300)
~The Atlantic has a 3,000m³ (40m x 10m x 7.5m) pressurized cargo deck with access through a full-width/full-height rear cargo door, and two side hatches and an airlock connecting it to the forward crew deck, used when the cargo deck is depressurized for space-to-space cargo transfers. The crew deck has a seperate airlock as well. The Atlantic is standard equipment aboard all Verniian freighters.


-High Commander of the USWA Space Fleet
Hal Johnson

ooc: me like very much

OOC- Wolf, you beat me to building a payload carrier, dangit, now it'l seem as though I was copying you, I came up with this idea as a troop transport, but this role fits better.

We bought them from the International Mall. From the Gregor Corporation.
We did not make them.

-High Commander of the USWA Space Fleet
Hal Johnson

ooc: me like very much

OOC: Me likely too. That is why I bought them.

We bought them from the International Mall. From the Gregor Corporation.
We did not make them.

-High Commander of the USWA Space Fleet
Hal Johnson

Oh, ok, I like to make my own technology, or keep it in small groups, cause if I use it, I can proudly say its Siesatian Designed. I do not agree with buying foreign techology, because it undermines what is being achieved here, now people can say that the space station wouldnt have been a reality without so and so's ship, and he wasn't even in ISEC. Thats just my opinion.

Oh, ok, I like to make my own technology, or keep it in small groups, cause if I use it, I can proudly say its Siesatian Designed. I do not agree with buying foreign techology, because it undermines what is being achieved here, now people can say that the space station wouldnt have been a reality without so and so's ship, and he wasn't even in ISEC. Thats just my opinion.

We will built our own ships later.
Plus will are going do some modification after we get the technology.

-High Commander of the USWA Space Fleet
Hal Johnson

That is why I am providing support through the ISEC Aid Group instead of being a regular member. I understand the desire to develop your own technology. I did it the same way.

I would like to extend my hand out to help out in any way possible. Resources would be opened up to anyone in my region in order to make this program lift off the ground. I speak for all of the nations in my region when I say that. Please contact me to give me more information and such about this matter and I do hope to see something like this succeed.
With all hopes in mind I bid thee farewell.......

High President Rehmasyde Harthblade, Leader of Carzath and Ruler of The Darklends.

Carzath- your a pretty new nation, if you are not the leader of your region, than don't speak for the rest of them, if you are, then go ahead. I'm sure support would be accepted, but I am not the one you should ask, ask Culenus or someone else in a higher position than I.

The Lord Solar of the Legio Mechanicus is willing to give a chance to fellow humans to make a giant leap in space exploration.We will donate 1 Natal class ship,a vast improvement on the fledgeling efforts of your coalition to make space travel easy.Do you accept?
For information on the ships currently available,and to check out the Natal go to lunarsandwich.firewebx.com

Helveticuz is back in business! And we are very sorry for being inactive theese few weeks. Therefor, we would ask those nations who have seek access to the ISEC to ask again, for now we are here.

Again, we are very sorry for this. Please re-apply and i will do the best i can to write your antions up on the list.
To all ISEC nations who have controlled this thread under the time i've been gone, thank you - nice job.

Remember, in peace and war, love and hate, chaos and order - ISEC will forever stay.

The United States of Wolf America is very much interested in joining in space relations with Helveticuz. We will send a science team, 10 top pilots to be trained in to astronauts, 10 soldiers for security. Plus two nation in this program are my alles.(Cullenus & Slagshta) WE have 50 Atlantic Cargo Shuttle. So the total of pilots that can fly it is 12. If the ISEC needs us to move something, We can use ten of them because two pilots have to stay in the USWA to train the other pilots. The ISEC can use them. Ask it if you need them.

-High Commander of the USWA Space Fleet
Hal Johnson

Hey, nice to have you back, will you go back and look at the two shuttle proposals made by me and I think it was Wolf?

Wolf America, you are very welcome and thank you for your fine donation. We'll probalby need them in a soon future.

Siesatia: Yes they seem interesting. But i think we should ask NWV about it.
Also i had a proposal, remember my Project Phoenix? Anyway, TG Nazi Weaponized Virus about it and i'm sure he'll fix it for ya.

And to all others: Yes, i'm back. Now i wan't to start that party thread we planned to start a couple of weeks ago. Remember that one? yeah...THAT one. What do you say? Maybe should have a TWO year party now...hehe.

Wolf America, you are very welcome and thank you for your fine donation. We'll probalby need them in a soon future.



We own them. The ISEC is like loaning for free.


-High Commander of the USWA Space Fleet
Hal Johnson

oh...yeah. Sry for misreading :) Thank you anyway

I cant find a country named Nazi Weaponized Virus? NWV, whats ur countries name?
EDIT: Oh, and everyone join HALO - http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=350451

oh...yeah. Sry for misreading :) Thank you anyway

Yall can use them if you need just holla at us.

-High Commander of the USWA Space Fleet
Hal Johnson

I cant find a country named Nazi Weaponized Virus? NWV, whats ur countries name?
EDIT: Oh, and everyone join HALO - http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=350451


Try this link:

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/member.php?u=171677

I need the country to TG him don't I?

Can't find him?! Damn....

What do you say? Should i create a 2 year party thread?

Alright, lets party on, can I Controlm the music?

yeh sure ;P

bump

We would like to use this facility as another place to launch our shuttles from. We will also offer someone for the position of Finance Director.

We would like to use this facility as another place to launch our shuttles from. We will also offer someone for the position of Finance Director.

You must join ISEC before being allowed access to our facilities. Also if you do join, and are interested in a position, whoever takes on the position of Finance Director must have outstanding dedication to the program. Thanks

So, whats the status of our research projects? Oh,and have Wolf and I's Transport things been aproved?

Infinite Hoarding, as representitive of the region of Capitolista, would be honored to join the ISEC. Even though the region and its members are relatively new, we believe in the space projects and hope that one day, we could possibly find other habitable planets.

We would like to also 10 million dollars NS yearly, because the region of Capitolista is dedicated to the prospects of the promise of the future.

The Iron Concordiat of Wirraway
Department of Aeronautics

The Concordiat of Wirraway would very much like to join ISEC. We believe that space exploration is a neccesary venture for mankind. At this moment we do own a space-craft of our own, but are researching store-fronts to find the best one for a our needs. In the meantime the Concordiat would appreciate it if the ISEC coud lend us an X-20 for the time being. In addition the Concordiat would also like to donate 10 million USD a year to the program as a token of gratitude for such an international space consortium that will allow us to enter space.

Siesatia, yes they definetley have.

Wirraway: You are very welcome, nice to have you here. If you wish to be promoted into one of the Directors in the high council (see first post) you have to work hard and be dedicated in the program. Welcome again.

Infinite Hoarding: You are also very welcome to ISEC, and we hope that you'll ahve a nice stay.

OOC: Damn! We are up to 21 pages already. I wonder how long it will finally become and how many months we can keep this going.

IC:

The Empire of Balrogga would like to know how soon you are going to need the power for the Lunar Base. We are ready to divert the 12000 TeraJoules as soon as you need it. Everything is in place.

OOC: Yeah, but i sense this isn't gonna hold much longer. Almost everyone of our members is VERY inactive.

IC: Good to hear, Balrogga. I will personally contact you when we are ready and set to go to the moon.

Whoah, lunar base, and this popped up, when? Oh, and members might be inactive cause school is starting up.

Whoah, lunar base, and this popped up, when? Oh, and members might be inactive cause school is starting up.Ah, a long time ago...like in the starting of ISEC? Hm, yeah that may be the reason.
Anyway, welcome back Siesatia...what am i talking about. You ahven't been gone. Damn i'm tired...

Well, concerning the problem of inactive members. We could do like a sweep of all the nations, by telegram, and give a certain respond date to see who is still active and/or are willing to contribute to the program. After that date we remove all nations who have not responded from the active list and put them on an inactive list. This will give them a little more time to respond. The inactive list can expire after a certain date, and all members remaing on it could be deleted.

Of course, if they wanted to they could always return and rejoin ISEC.

Also the people who joined the ISEC Region can go ahead and remain of the active list. Because they had at least participated in one way or another involving ISEC by joining the region.

Well, concerning the problem of inactive members. We could do like a sweep of all the nations, by telegram, and give a certain respond date to see who is still active and/or are willing to contribute to the program. After that date we remove all nations who have not responded from the active list and put them on an inactive list. This will give them a little more time to respond. The inactive list can expire after a certain date, and all members remaing on it could be deleted.

Of course, if they wanted to they could always return and rejoin ISEC.

Also the people who joined the ISEC Region can go ahead and remain of the active list. Because they had at least participated in one way or another involving ISEC by joining the region.

OOC:I'm here.

IC:
The USWA is wait for the ISEC to ask to use our Atlantic cargo shuttles.

Here some stat on the Atlantic Cargo Shuttle (http://img24.photobucket.com/albums/v73/Jadeite/heavytransportcivilian.jpg).
Mass (Tons): 650
Length (Meters): 60
Wingspan (Min/Max): 20/40
Height ( Min/Max): 8/10
Fuselage Dimensions (L/W/H): 60m x 12m x 8m
Maximum Acceleration (G): 375


Normal people black out at 5Gs. Using special tequniques that raise their blood pressure to their head, they can survive (or at least remain concious up to) 7. With flight suits, highly trained pilots can survive 9. Now, taking general reletivity into consideration, to maximize the lifespan of the pilots, we have to top off acceleration to 5Gs, and get the MAX speed up as far as we can, although thats pretty stupid too because of space debris, unless our space-cleaning program i think we might have effects the far reaches of space, which it probably doesn't.

I think the phrase "rocket science" deserves some reverence even though it has been cliched to death.

Normal people black out at 5Gs. Using special tequniques that raise their blood pressure to their head, they can survive (or at least remain concious up to) 7. With flight suits, highly trained pilots can survive 9. Now, taking general reletivity into consideration, to maximize the lifespan of the pilots, we have to top off acceleration to 5Gs, and get the MAX speed up as far as we can, although thats pretty stupid too because of space debris, unless our space-cleaning program i think we might have effects the far reaches of space, which it probably doesn't.

I think the phrase "rocket science" deserves some reverence even though it has been cliched to death.

I didn't make the stats.

I don't know if wolf uses inetial dampeners, or other similar systems. But if he does, the amount of G force energy exerted will be countered. My ships have inertial dampening, and other devices, so they can support FTL engines. Oh and wolf, the atlantic shuttles were aproved, my ship is already on the way,and will be ready to land at the base in 9 months. After it finishes its 480000 point shake down.

Project Lunar base has started, officially. We need every antion in ISEC to attend the meeting in conference hall 9 at the Forum. There, information will be spread out to the nations of ISEC and the world.
I hope i'll see you there!

OOC: I think we should start some kinda RP, adventure or war i dunno. But it has gone a loooong time since the last RP. What do you say? Yeah, THIS is rp, but i mean something other...like something went wrong on the lunar base and we have 5 scientist who must get out. Or else....they will die on some mysterious way.

The Represenitive from the ISEC Aid Group arrives 4 hours before the meeting. He spends most of the extra time touring the base, touring the airfield, and talking with the various ISEC members as they arrive.

OOC: Yeah, it would be a good idea to have tragities as well as successes in our climb. It is unrealistic to allways succeed. At least there is an Aid Group to assist in emergencies. All one of us. ;)

An Atlantic shuttle lands on a runway.

A pilot gets out and ask where we can land the 49 shuttles.

An Atlantic shuttle lands on a runway.

A pilot gets out and ask where we can land the 49 shuttles.
The ground crew tells the pilot that the shuttles will be stored in the udnerground hangar, sector C, block 72B. The ISEC ground crew will transport the shuttle down to the hangar. THank you for the transport over to Helveticuz!

The ground crew tells the pilot that the shuttles will be stored in the udnerground hangar, sector C, block 72B. The ISEC ground crew will transport the shuttle down to the hangar. THank you for the transport over to Helveticuz!

All transports are there. The ground crew move them the undergound hangar, sector c, block 72b. Plus all of the pilots will stay at the ISEC base.

Matthew Gator of the Kingdom of Cullenus after a fairly long trip, lands his private skycar on the grounds of ISEC with his secretary, Emilia Green.
http://www.membrana.ru/images/articles/1054055082-2.jpeg
http://www.yesterdaystomorrows.org/newimages/Skycar.jpg

"As every nation in ISEC has arrived, i here by declare this meeting open." Yuri Latjevskij said, the chairman of the ISEC High Council.

A huge screen was turned on, and soon the 'movie' started.
http://www.ifsht2004.com/assets/images/james-watt-centre-2.jpg

It showed a huge logo on it, with the name ISEC under it. Yuri opened his mouth:

"This is the moment we've all been waiting for. This is the moment we will launch our AG-1 VentureStar's, towards the moon!"

The audience applauded, and Yuri stepped of the scene. A voice was heard from the speakers: 'ISEC Presents...PROJECT LUNA'

The conference hall turned black, and the huge movie screen was lightened.
It showed the plan, from A to O. Step by step.
Three AG-1 would be launched in the first wave. Theese containing the main parts for the base. After a couple of mintes, the other three AG-1 would be launched with the other half of the parts.
After an hour, when the AG-1 ships was far away out in space, the ZUMO C-1 (ZUMO Cargo One - secret helvetian project since the 80's) will carry the power-dish up to the moon.
When the building of the base is ready, the dish will arrive (if everything goes as planned) an hour after. The AG-1's will return to pickup the rest of the maintenance and research crew.

The hall was lightened up, and Yuri stepped forward once more.

"I, and the whole Helveticuz, would like to thank everyone who has been a part of this. I need your, the nations of ISEC's approval to launch the plan. You have all been given a contract, wich lenghtens your membership one year more, and also approves the Project Luna."

He stepped down from the scene and left the hall, with tears in his eyes.
This was something he had dreamed about his whole life.

The representative from Balrogga is the first to stand. He approaches the podium and requests to make an announcement.


"Ladies and Gentlemen, I have been asked by the Emperor Nhur-Galladu himself to make this announcement."

He reaches inside his attaché and pulls out a document. He breaks the wax seal , opens it, and begins to read.

“We, the Empire of Balrogga, feel our participation in this organization has been a great asset. We would like to do more. The Empire wished to extend the one year membership to a more suitable duration. We do not feel a year is long enough to establish the many programs that must go through the research phase to the completed product. Many of the feasibility inquiries that must be completed before research can be funded can take a year in itself.”

“For this reason we reject the one year membership and pledge our membership for the lifetime of ISEC. We will remain as the ISEC Aid Group and provide the power and protection for every project if it is feasible. All membership fees and other monetary funding will automatically be granted.”

“I, Lord Emperor Nhur-Galladu of the 217th House of Emperors, pledge this and in my Name I make it so.”


The representative leaves the podium and takes his seat.

OOC: The website is now official. i was supposed to build a site of my own, nbut since my computer crashed and all files where lost, i found that i didn't ahve the time to re-create everything and maked a Freewebs site. Enjoy!

http://www.freewebs.com/raqblad/

OOC:

The link to the map is dead

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...ISECBASEMAP.gif

So, whenre we gonna launch project Luna?

[OOC: Now..]

9:00PM
Universum Forum Spaceport, Helveticuz

Three AG-1 VentureStars were on the launchpad, drowned with smoke.
At the forum, aprox. 50-80 meters from the pads, all the ISEC teams was sitting in their nice, comfortable armchairs wathcing out over the spaceport - and mainly over the spacecrafts.
A voice was heard in the speakers, it told the teams that it was two minutes til the launch.

Inside one of the AG-1's, Captain John Miller - Helvetian citizen - started to warm up the engines. He also made a final chek on Security systems and the cago. He reported to the control room, named Houston, that everything was ready to go.

A loud voice could be heard: Ten....nine....eight....seven....

The engines started to light up, and the ground vibrated.

....Six....five....four....three....

Now the vibrations were even more powerful. Some of the teams inside the forum spectator hall standed up.

....Two....one....

The three AG-1's went away with an enourmous power, and all the building shaked and the ground vibrated. It was a very mighty sight.
As the smoke was calmed, the ISEC Groundcrew transported the next three AG-1's to the launchpads and the procedure was repeted.

One hour later, the ZUMO C-1 transporter was launched, and now the only had to wait for "the call".

Infinite Hoarding is very optomistic about the LUNA mission. Bear in mind that the success of a mission is not based on luck, but rather time and money. As long as we weren't taking the low, low bids that don't bother with extensive error-checking or untested, cheaper technologies, then Infinite Hoarding expects nothing less than success.

Well, if i say it like this, we are not poor...
Infact, our Gross Regional Product (GRP) is $73,144,014,799,218.50 exactly. With that amount f money, we can do alot of stuff.
OK, not all of that money goes to the ISEC program, but alot do.

Also, they have the Balrogga Empire as their aid group. We are a future tech nation that is supporting the actions of the ISEC wholeheartedly. We will make sure they suceed in their endevors. We are not providing technological support unless asked directly because the ISEC wishes to create their own tech, but we are working closely with them in every way possible.

Siesatia is in a simialar position as Balrogga, we are a future tech, but we take an active role as the defence coordinator. And we provide a few things here and there... ;)

Oh,speaking of providing something, I recounted my budget, and want to give 100,000,000,000 $ to the project. Im sure we can find some good uses for it. The money will be wired to the ISEC funds after your aproval.

Siesatia: Approved. Btw, would you like to have the position of "Second Leader"? You can read what theat exactly means in the region.

IC: Helveticuz officiallt reports to the woprld that the Lunar base has been completed, without any failures or delays.

I'd only like to have it if nobody else wants it, I don't want the others to get the impression of me buying my way in. The money has been wired. Maybe Balrogga would be a good one, thats who my vote would be on.

The Power Grid is opperational.

I'd only like to have it if nobody else wants it, I don't want the others to get the impression of me buying my way in. The money has been wired. Maybe Balrogga would be a good one, thats who my vote would be on.Balrogga doesn't want to interfere to much, it ahs been said before. His membership in ISECAG is important.
And it isn't about the money you wired, it is about activiness. You and Cullenus are the only ones active enough to deserve the rank, so it's between you guys.

This is the URL to the Universum Forum map... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/MatthewCH/NationStates/ISECBASEMAP.gif
I checked it and it does work.

Cullenus also looks forward to the success of project Luna.
OOC: and the RPs that may result thereof, lol

edit: also if your going to copy the link.. dont copy it from here... it is automatically shortened... click on it and copy from the web browser

OOC:

Looks good.

I assume the Air Defence Base is off screen to avoid the accidental crossing of flight paths.


IC:

I'd only like to have it if nobody else wants it, I don't want the others to get the impression of me buying my way in. The money has been wired. Maybe Balrogga would be a good one, thats who my vote would be on.

The Balrogga Empire wants to participate as closely with ISEC as possible without interfering with the independence of the orgizanation developing their own technology. The only way I have seen so far is by providing a power source and protection for the instalations, both terrestrial and lunar.

Taking direct action within the ISEC itself might constitute interference. Until I can be convinced otherwise, I will have to limit my actions to the ISEC Aid Group.

I understand the importance of developing your own technology. I did so myself.

I appreciate the honor of the suggestion.

To the ISEC space program from the Free Land of Haxorville in the region of Academia:

Greetings. I am pleased that the nations of the world are coming together for such an important effort. Due to internal problems (we are a young nation, and our infrasturcture and government are still being developed), we are unable to donate supplies at this time. However, due to the efficient industrial processes developed in our parent country before the creation of Haxorville, we are able to produce electronics, including solar panals and computer chips, at an exceptionally low cost. We are in need of increased food supplies, however, as our country does not have a lot of land suitable for farming, and we currently lack the capital needed for terraforming.

So, are any of the nations of the ISEC interested in trading food for electronics for the space program or other endeavors?

Respectfully yours,
Sam, L33t M4st3r of Haxorville

Haxorville, as Helveticuz already ahve a strong electronics and IT market we can't trade with you.
But, i will tell my allies and my other foreign contatcs about your needs and we'll see what I can do.
Not interested in joining the program? If you do, we could supply you with food, for a price - a minimal price ofcourse.

Visit the ISEC website, to gain information: http://www.freewebs.com/raqblad/

ooC: To all ISEC nations who's not in the region > The ISEC forum is soon finished, keep in touch for further news.

I suggest Hydroponics, they take alot of land, but Im willing to supply the technology for it. And then there's gene therapy for plants, you know, faster growing, better tasting tomatos, ect.

Siesatia- We already are using Hydroponics to supplement our food stores, but it will be a few years before we can build our infrastucture to produce enough to feed our entire population, and our stores will only last about a year without taking some emergency measures or supplementing that with trade. If you are willing to allow us to purchase food, we will begin purchases immediately. We are able to sustain a slight trade deficit, at least for a little, until we find someone to buy our export goods.

In addition to affordable technology, we also have uranium mines (with plenty of surplus for exports), and a small, but exceptional, dairy industry that specializes in fine cheeses (but does not produce the kind of output needed to support the population's food needs). Perhaps you or some of your corporations would be interested in buying those from us.

Sincerely,
Sam, L33t M4st3r of Haxorville

Unfortunately, Uranium is one of the top comodities in my countries. And my race is lactose intolerent. We would be willing to discuss a trade, we have a large food production capacity, if you possesed something of value, we would be willing to trade large quantities of food for it. Actually, as of right now, we are looking for high grade materials for a new project we are undertaking. Its our infamous Raptor series, the Raptor P3X40 recently came out, and we have started on the 50 series. If you could supply us with the following materials for a prototype, all the food you want will be yours:
300 tonnes of Titanium-Berrilium
1200 tonnes of 100 % pure refined deutirium

The 50 series will be our first spacecraft ever designed to specifically fight the ever growing threat of the Demons. Who threaten all civilized life.

Actually, we can refine the deutirium. We use hydrogen to chemically store solar power (which is our main energy source). We could easily modify a few of our electrolization plants to refine and extract the deutirium isotope if you would be willing to trade for that. And because our solar power is very cost effective, I'm sure we could sell the deutirium a good price.

We would like to change our last order slightly, instead of Titanium-berillium, I need titanium/trinium at a 60:40 ratio mix. Same quantities.

Bump

HAHA, our much needed Bump

I'd like to partisipate(sp?) In this Space Program, it'd be a great help to both my economy and military.

bumpith

Bumpith to the 3rd degree

Too bad so many people have went back to school and havn't time...

The Empire of Balrogga is still here to help.

Our name is trying to be stolen from us

Who is trying this heinous deed? Can you post a link?


IC:
The next annual dues are being forwarded to the financial division ahead of time to pay for the legal department so they can file an order of Cease And Desist against the perps.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=366199

Castle Essembra
City of Essembra
Capital City of Kormanthor

Greetings to all nations of the ISEC from King Matthew of Kormanthor. Some
of you might have already heard of us. Regardless of whether you have or
not we would like to welcome all of you into the family of space nations.
We are a future tech nation much like Balrogga and would like to offer the
ISEC what aid from us you would except.

Signed

King Matthew

Kormanthor

I have no problem with you joining but the decision is up to the others. They have another program for the future tech nations that wish to help but don't wish to force their teck upon them. They have the wish to develop their tech themselves.

They have the ISECAG

The ISEC Aid Group. I am the only member so far. I will help them out financially and provide whatever power they need and come to their aid if they need rescue missions and the sort. You would still be a Full Member of ISEC.

I feel you might be a good member of this group.


Siesatia

Please check on his aplication

Also see what we can do to keep our name. We have had it months before most of their nations were ever created. We have copywrite and the Mods would agree. I read through part of their thread and they don't give a shit weather we had the name first or not. I do not want my every post to advertise their nation, just ours (see sig).

EDIT: I posted a complaint on their thread backing our position.

Send the Dogs of Law after them (lawyers) hehehe

See what we can do to get them to either change their name or to join us as a sub group. If they join they would have to adhere to our bylaws.

We also need to take a census of the members who are still online with their nations. We might need to fill some of the Director Positions.

The Federal Kingdom of Triancia would like to become a member of this organization. We have almost prefected a spacecraft cabable of sending one man into sub-orbit, and only needing to be refueled before attempting the feat again. I do beleive the National Labratories also have some research done on Ion propulsion.

Regards,
Dr. Ronald Baxter, Director of the Triancian National Labratories.

We also might wanna start a new thread, eh Balrogga? Oh, and the site for ISEC you created is down.

I would say we accept Kor into Isec Aid Group, unless he is willing to take a more active role, and not force tech onto people.

Oh, I forgot,Here is a design, as a gift to ISEC, the Orbital Defence Shuttle:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v347/UthRptr2/Valkary.jpg


You will never find this design anywhere, I made it myself, and it is for sole use by ISEC. It uses no technlogy that ISEC does not yet have, so it is within the mandate for techology donations. 20 are currently availiable, and another 10 will be made ready in 2 years.

OOC:

Who is in charge of accepting the applicants?

I tried to get to the web site myself but it is down.


IC:

The Empire of Balrogga would like to propose the next long term mission should be an attempt to reach Mars and establish a permanent colony. This will take years and much resources. If the ISEC would permit, we would like to provide raw materials mined from the asteroids for construction. These materials could be refined and cast into the individual componants of the craft we build. This would greatly reduce the cost of the program and allow us to use the funds where it would be most useful.

I would like a vote upon this proposal from all member still active.

OOC:

Who is in charge of accepting the applicants?

I tried to get to the web site myself but it is down.


IC:

The Empire of Balrogga would like to propose the next long term mission should be an attempt to reach Mars and establish a permanent colony. This will take years and much resources. If the ISEC would permit, we would like to provide raw materials mined from the asteroids for construction. These materials could be refined and cast into the individual componants of the craft we build. This would greatly reduce the cost of the program and allow us to use the funds where it would be most useful.

I would like a vote upon this proposal from all member still active.

For it. We will send 100 billion.

OOC: How'd you like teh new ship BTW?

Can we please get a new thread? This one is getting pretty long...



IC:
The USS will donate 100 Billion as well, and the use of our moon colony for any ISEC usage.

I noticed the first post has not been updated to reflect all members. Rinceweed is also an ISECAG member.

Helveticuz, the web site is broken and some members would like to have the Thread restarted and updated. Also, who is in charge of aplication acceptance? There are some nations awaiting to have their aplication reviewed.

Helectivez has been unactive for the past few days. I don't think he will be returning until some sort of break in school. I think we should create a new thread, and hand it back over once he returns.

Also, I TGed him about this plan a week ago, still no reponce.

Yup, i'm still hanging around in the ISECAG. As I said before, i'm more than willing to give some of my older ships designed only for going between the surface of a planet (Earth Gravity of lighter only) to any orbiting space stations, so that the other nations can benefit from studying them. Nothing interstellar, or even interplanetary. Better to crawl before ye run. Of course, after that, THEN I hand out some of the better stuff....

(I should point out, that any ships I hand out will be included with no weapons, and be basically unable to carry anything bigger than a handheld gun strapped to the side. It's only small civilian transports ya see, since I don't want to hand out tech that people'll start using to attack others with.)

It seems there are many wise minds here.

Wise.... really? Who?

bumpith

bumpith

Any word form Helectivez yet?

There has not been, and I believe that he is dangerously close to deleation by unactivity.

The Infinite Empire of Helveticuz Compulsory Consumerist State Active 2 days ago
ISEC Region
UN Delegate

He is still around...

Last time, maybe a few days ago, it said something like 5 days or something.

[Quote] Yup, i'm still hanging around in the ISECAG. As I said before, i'm more than willing to give some of my older ships designed only for going between the surface of a planet (Earth Gravity of lighter only) to any orbiting space stations, so that the other nations can benefit from studying them. Nothing interstellar, or even interplanetary. Better to crawl before ye run. Of course, after that, THEN I hand out some of the better stuff....

(I should point out, that any ships I hand out will be included with no weapons, and be basically unable to carry anything bigger than a handheld gun strapped to the side. It's only small civilian transports ya see, since I don't want to hand out tech that people'll start using to attack others with.)
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Rinceweed, here for all your Orbital defense needs.

List of Excellent RPers:

The BlackWolf Order
Specific Thread: The Invasion of Earth (Partially Closed RP feel free to tag and read)

List of not so Excellent RPers:

Lessr Tsurani
Kormanthor :headbang: ……… occ: I see no reason to insult other's even if you do….
Rinceweed . :sniper: :gundge: :mp5:

http://usera.imagecave.com/Kormanthor/Wallpaper9.jpg

http://usera.imagecave.com/Kormanthor/wells_186_-715x450.jpg

http://usera.imagecave.com/Kormanthor/sentri.jpg

Alright, I am preparing the next thread, 20 pages is long enough for a single thread. Expect it soon.

Don't forget to quote the first post so we have the map and other details at the front of the new post and include a link to this one.

hey guys, just wanted to show u that i'm still alive! Hope to be back soon...but i don't know when.

You'll hear from me!

Better late then never...
New thread is over here>>> http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=367696&page=1&pp=20
Good to have ya back.

Ah, a sight for sore eyes.

If we can help please let us know

Help? Im confused... But then again, I'm always confused, or at least seem to be...