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Helveticuz
26-07-2004, 21:54
The International Space Exploration Coalition space program - Sign up now!

The Helveticuz State of Aerospace, is sending a international message to all nations, wondering if they are interested in starting a space program together. Wich means no race to be the first, saving money, getting better engines and other material. Share is the word.

Official message from press-conference: (cut by CNN-H)
"Dear Citizens! not just from Helvetia, but from all civilized nations. The time has come when there are no more land to discover, no more land to conquer.
Now we will reach for the universe. But i say, Together!
So the universe belongs to us all, together."

Helveticuz has built the Universum Forum spaceport, one of the largest spaceport in history. It all began when a man named Yuri Latjevskij as a child saw his first soviet rocket lift up to the stars. He was very impressed and built his own "rockets" with woodparts from the forest behind his village.
Now, 43 years later, he's a member of the Helvetian government and the Helvetian State of Aerospace. He started to fantasize about travelling to other worlds and make scientific discoverys, and got other persons with him in his dreaming. Soon the whole HSA reported to the Helvetian government that they were demanding a spaceprogram, otherwise they would quit and move to the neighbouring land.
HSA gave them unlimited money, Yuri Latjevskij is a VERY important man, and gave them an area far from the cities to build a spaceport. What they did not know was that Yuri planned to build the "greatest spaceport ever".
And in a couple of years the Universum Forum was finished. He got the name from the roman empire. He was impressed by their strict dicipline and architecture. Everything was in order in the roman empire, he thought.

The Universum Forum consist of one Main building (the "forum"), three large apartment blocks, one security building, one command center (upon the Main building), three control towers, three astrological centers, five large research centers, 120 hangarslots all of them underground, ten large factories, three long landingstrips, five small factories, three small research centers, one huge research lab, one large astronaut school, one large gym/exercise center, eight windtunnels, three placed launchsites and another five if necessary, three large radio/communication halls, one microwave dish 1000ft, twenty different restaurants, one medium shoppinghall, one large casino, five helicopter landingpad (fifteen incl. the rooftops) and one large underground parking center.

MAP: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/MatthewCH/NationStates/ISECBASEMAP.gif

The ISEC Aid Group (ISECAG) is an organisation for TRUSTED nation, who donate a large amount of important information or money. A good example is Balrogga, first nation of ISECAG. Look at his donation and you will see how yours should look like, if you want a place in the ISECAG. Note: ISECAG is an organisation who give full support and is ready to assist ISEC in any time, but doesn't want to get involved with the spaceprogram. Interested? Contact Helveticuz or Nazi Weaponized Virus!

ISEC Region is now open to any ISEC nations. We can offer support in crisis, humanitarian aid and an entertainment program (with conserts and that stuff).
Feel free to visit "ISEC Region", and TG Cullenus for password.

Rules

This is Helvetian Ground, so nations cannot build any of their own facilities, unless they have permition from Helvetian Authorities. Simplified: Ask Helveticuz if you want to add something to the spaceport.

Any spacecrafts with weapons, speciallcy WMD's, are NOT allowed.
If it is impossible to remove the weapon/s from your ship, please notice Helvetian authorities.

Super-Mega-Ultra spaceships (Godmod ships) are not allowed.

Nations must have an ambassador or any political contactsperson in the Space Program Council, and one or more science teams on place. And ofcourse atleast one team of astro/cosmo/taiconaut.

Every nation is welcome, as long as they can afford their own ships. If not they may borrow Helvetian spaceships (model X20 ONLY)for a maximum period of 1 year. After that period the nation must have their own spaceship otherwise they will be cancelled from the program. (The State of Aerospace owns 12 X20 shuttles). They also must have their own astronauts or they can send a team to be trained at the Astronaut School.

All nations in ISEC will give money to ALL projects, wheter they like it or not. Otherwise the whole idea of the program is wasted. If all nations give money to the project, each nation will only give a small amount money. If One or two nations gave money, they would have to pay a large or even enormous amount of money to afford it. As said before, SHARE is the keyword for the ISEC.

If a nation decides to buy the AG-1 VentureStar, they must return it to ISEC if they leave or is cancelled from the program, or they could choose to buy it for the real market price. This rule will prevent nations from joining ISEC and then buy the AG-1 cheaper than on the market, and then leave the program with a new ship in their hands.


NOTIFICATION TO STOREFRONTS: We do not buy your ships, we make our own as everything else. If we would be interested in buying anything, WE will contact you.

The Helvetian Space Science Corporation has built a couple of Spaceships, some of them Helvetian standard ships (X20) and others completely new projects. The Helvetian standard spaceship is quite simple and nations who can't afford their own ship may borrow these until they have their own.

Specifiction of the X20
Engines: 3 Hydrocharge Engines /w Oxygen Cooling.
Skin: Itanium plates.
Looks: Like a NASA spaceshuttle, only a little bit smaller.
Capacity: Up to 12 team members. only 2 pilots needed. Can hold up to 2 tons of cargo. (With liftrockets equipped).
Note: Only 9 X20 left to borrow.

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The International Space Exploration Coalition Space Program - Nations of the ISEC:

Helveticuz (hostnation)
Cullenus (1 X20 borrowed)
The NAS (1 X20 borrowed)
Vistadin
Jamnation
The Electric Monks
Nazi Weaponized Virus
The Dublin Commune
Siesatia
Bureaucracia
Marak
Cockcephus
Quillium
Ehrana
Catabaronia
Ugisi
Scimar (1 X20 borrowed)
Falangist Reich
Slagshta
Wolf America

Nations of the ISECAG (ISEC Aid Group):

Balrogga

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ISEC Projects and News:

The ISEC website is now officially open! Visit it now and comment your opinion! http://www.freewebs.com/raqblad/

ISEC Region is now open to any ISEC nations. We can offer support in crisis, humanitarian aid and an entertainment program (with conserts and that stuff).
Feel free to visit "ISEC Region", and TG Cullenus for password.

The Lunar base Project has now offically begun, soon we will ahve our scientist on the moon. We will try to start a new travel concept too. Wait for futher news!


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Budget:

Available Expenditure: $231 Billion per/annum

Treasury Funds: $179 Billion

Allocation:

Probes = $13 Billion

Mars - $6 Billion
Mercury - $3 Billion
Sun Monitoring Probe - $4 Billion

Universum Forum = $4 Billion

Upkeep - $1 Billion
Development of New Buildings/Launch Pads - $3 Billion

Planning (Projects e.t.c.) = $51 Billion

ISEC Moon Base - $14 Billion
ISEC Mars Mission - $30 Billion
ISEC Jupiter Mission - $7 Billion

Development (Building of projects) = $120 Billion

ISEC Space Station - $91 Billion
ISEC DST (Deep Space Telescope) -$14 Billion
14 Deep Space Probes - $5 Billion

Research = $81 Billion

ZX1 Ion Propulsion - $40 Billion
AG-1 Probes - $13 Billion
New Materials - $14 Billion
New Craft - $14 Billion

Spacecraft Upkeep = $900 Million

AG-1 - $700 Million
Misc. - $200 Million

Expenditure: $222 Billion

Surplus: $9 Billion

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High Council of ISEC:

Director General: Helveticuz

Research and Planning Director: Slagshta

Design Director: Cullenus

Finance Director: *Vacant*

Security Director: Siesatia
Cullenus
26-07-2004, 22:01
The Kingdom of Cullenus
Florida, Earth II
Matthew Gator, Foreign Affairs

The Kingdom of Cullenus is very much interested in joining in space relations with Helveticuz. We have recently abandoned our previous space program due to expenses. Cullenus had only created one design in the previous, however the "SBL" proved too expensive. If we recieve a notice that Cullenus has been allowed to join we will immediatly start on design and construction of a spaceship. Until then we would like to borrow an X20. Much gratitude.

Matthew Gator
Helveticuz
26-07-2004, 22:08
The Kingdom of Cullenus
Florida, Earth II
Matthew Gator, Foreign Affairs

The Kingdom of Cullenus is very much interested in joining in space relations with Helveticuz. If we recieve a notice that Cullenus has been allowed to join we will immediatly start on design and construction of a spaceship. Until then we would like to borrow an X20. Much gratitude.

Matthew Gator
You are ofcourse welcome. Helveticuz greets you, and we will preserve aa hangarslot and an X20 for you until your ambassador* and science team, and ofcourse your astronauts, arrives at Unversum Forum.
*Or "political contactsperson"

Approved by Overlord Reichsman.
REG - 128394066 - END
Cullenus
26-07-2004, 22:18
The Kingdom of Cullenus
Official

Matthew Gator of Foreign Affairs will be serving as the temporary ambassador for Cullenus. We gathered a few of our top scientists and engineers who will be serving as the science team. And along with Gator and the science team we are sending our astronauts from our previous space program.

King Carpenter I
Helveticuz
26-07-2004, 22:27
The Kingdom of Cullenus
Official

Matthew Gator of Foreign Affairs will be serving as the temporary ambassador for Cullenus. We gathered a few of our top scientists and engineers who will be serving as the science team. And along with Gator and the science team we are sending our astronauts from our previous space program.

King Carpenter I

Great! You are being directed to flight 122 towards Templona Airport, then your teams will be taken to Universum Forum with helicopter. For safety reasons. Feel free to visit the Casino at the base, and the other activites in the "Fun" region of the base.
*Note: Flight 122 is government plane not public.

Approved by Overlord Reichman
Signed David Holman - UNF Crew
Hutu
26-07-2004, 22:29
The nation of Hutu has been in the space age for quite sometime now but has not made any major trips like this since a disaster while building a spacestation that killed roughly 40 Astronauts and 75 Civilians. Thus we have numerous shuttle parts and engines in storage facilities that we would gladly donate to your project, however we can not garuntee any parts. But at the very least you could use them as scrap metal and spare parts.
Helveticuz
26-07-2004, 22:33
The nation of Hutu has been in the space age for quite sometime now but has not made any major trips like this since a disaster while building a spacestation that killed roughly 40 Astronauts and 75 Civilians. Thus we have numerous shuttle parts and engines in storage facilities that we would gladly donate to your project, however we can not garuntee any parts. But at the very least you could use them as scrap metal and spare parts.
We are sorry for your loss, and very happy over your donation. Feel free to join the program when your nation is ready. Many thanks from UNF Crew and Helveticuz Government.

Approved by Overlord Reichsman
Signed Fried Terance - UNF Council
Dublin Commune
26-07-2004, 22:35
The Dublin Commune is willing to share information and technology with other willing nations for the common advancement of mankind. We are involved in our own Space Program and have no need of forgein help. We hope that one day all mankind will face a common destiny among the stars.
We are devoloping New rockets powered by laser drives and hoping to start a Lunar colony as soon as conditions(economy, technology) allow for it. Perhaps we could co-oporate on this some time in the future.

Chairman Gillen
Dublin Commune
26-07-2004, 22:38
We are also willing to produce rocket and spaceship parts in our factories if wanted.
Hutu
26-07-2004, 22:38
We have no need to go back into space, we send some astronauts up every once and awhile to adjust or fix a satelite, but the people are much more concerned about the dirt under their feet than the skies above them. Right now the parts and shuttles are being loaded onto some of our larger cargo aircraft and 6 of the aircraft will be heading toward your country soon.
Five Civilized Nations
26-07-2004, 22:44
(OOC: FYI, most older nations already have substantial space programs...)
The New Aryan State
26-07-2004, 23:00
The NAS wishes to participate in the Space Program, though unfortunately we lack any shuttles of our own. Thus we wish to purchase one of those owned by yourselves. If this is not possible, we shall merely borrow one for the duration of the Program.
The NAS team shall consist of twelve scientists, eight potential astronauts and our Ambassador, Reynhard Frederickson.

Reichschancellor Holst
NAS Reichstag, Belsin
Helveticuz
26-07-2004, 23:22
The NAS wishes to participate in the Space Program, though unfortunately we lack any shuttles of our own. Thus we wish to purchase one of those owned by yourselves. If this is not possible, we shall merely borrow one for the duration of the Program.
The NAS team shall consist of twelve scientists, eight potential astronauts and our Ambassador, Reynhard Frederickson.

Reichschancellor Holst
NAS Reichstag, Belsin
You are welcome, but you must have in mind that this is a peaceful organisation. Racial nations often have a tendence of violence.
You may borrow a X20 shuttle for one year as the rules says, we now have so many spareparts so we can help you build your own ship. But ofcourse, you still have to pay for the parts.

Approved by Overlord Reichsman
Signed Adam Reichsman
Helveticuz
26-07-2004, 23:26
The Dublin Commune is willing to share information and technology with other willing nations for the common advancement of mankind. We are involved in our own Space Program and have no need of forgein help. We hope that one day all mankind will face a common destiny among the stars.
We are devoloping New rockets powered by laser drives and hoping to start a Lunar colony as soon as conditions(economy, technology) allow for it. Perhaps we could co-oporate on this some time in the future.

Chairman Gillen
Yes that would be very nice. Send over some of your scientist and we can start planning on it immidelately. We respect your choice of not wanting foreign help in your space program.

Approved by Overlord Reichsman
Signed John Evers - UNF Crew
Vistadin
26-07-2004, 23:45
Vistadin is very interested in this space program. I am sending cosmonauts and spaceships to your country.

- President Viktor E. Kroshnikev
Torcia
26-07-2004, 23:57
My nation is interested in starting a space program. We are willing to donate large sums of money in return for scientific data.
Anarchy 92
26-07-2004, 23:58
Yo dog, i like your ideas, one question do i have to put in money?
Dublin Commune
27-07-2004, 01:19
Our nation is willing to trade scientific knowledge for hard cash. We have many state-of-the-art rockets that we have been developing for decades. Torcia, we can also produce rockets for your space program for a modest payment.

Red Liberty Rocket
Large Rocket
Can lift 20 tons into space
1Billion$

Hope of Mankind
Medium Rocket
Can lift 12 tons into space
800million$
Dublin Commune
27-07-2004, 01:21
Helveticuz we are senting over 5 scientists
Helveticuz
27-07-2004, 10:41
Vistadin is very interested in this space program. I am sending cosmonauts and spaceships to your country.

- President Viktor E. Kroshnikev
You are welcome. Please dont forget to send your political contactsperson/ambassador to the UNF Council.

My nation is interested in starting a space program. We are willing to donate large sums of money in return for scientific data.
You want a place in the Universum Forum spaceport and spaceprogram? We accept the trade with money for data.

Yo dog, i like your ideas, one question do i have to put in money?Yes, but since we all share it will be MUCH cheaper than to do it yourself. Interested in joining? The more nations we get in, the cheaper it gets.

Our nation is willing to trade scientific knowledge for hard cash. We have many state-of-the-art rockets that we have been developing for decades. Torcia, we can also produce rockets for your space program for a modest payment.

Red Liberty Rocket
Large Rocket
Can lift 20 tons into space
1Billion$

Hope of Mankind
Medium Rocket
Can lift 12 tons into space
800million$We may be interested in the future, but for now we need nations to join in and get a good start.

Helveticuz we are senting over 5 scientistsWe will welcome the scientist and take them to the base with helicopters. The UNF thanks you for the science team.

Approved by Overlord Reichsman
Signed Freid Terance - UNF Council
Helveticuz
27-07-2004, 15:01
Bump. And now little commercial.. [AD-PRO Inc. Copyright 2004]
"Apply now! It's really cheap, and you get what you want: a REAL space program. Not the crap your space agency comes up with, planning trips to the moon in 8 years. Here, we have the money, the guts, the glory, to make real quality spacetrips."
Jamnation
27-07-2004, 15:17
Jamnation would be interested in joining this space program after many attempts at space travel and now we feel teh time is right because the ecomnomy is doing well. If we are accepted we will send over Commisioner S.Sakuki and to science team coposed of our best scientists and also a trained team of astronauts. Jamnation have also built and tested a new spacecraft known as the S-40, which production had been cut after the first one because of costs.

Specifiction of the S-40
Engines: 4 Fission Charge K+ Engines With lithium Colling
Skin: Neutrolium Plates(Non-Radioactive Alloy)
Looks: Similar to the NASA Spaceplane Built for the international space station
Capacity:Needs 5 piloits and can take up to 14 Non-essentual crew.Can carry up to 5 Tons of non-radioactive equipment or 3tons of Condensed or Radioactive equipment.

Your sincerly: Tyrant Y. Garasu

Note:There is also an x-Refit Which can convert the S-40 to carry thermo-nuclear warheads and K20-Fuel injected Rockets.Making it cobat ready
Siesatia
27-07-2004, 15:37
We are a space faring Civilization already, but I would like to ask why you would ban any nuclear devices, they are a clean and eficient sorce of power, you cant really refuel with liquid gas in outerspace, as you also use oxygen. Might I suggest allowing nuclear based POWER sorces only.
Helveticuz
27-07-2004, 18:07
Jamnation would be interested in joining this space program after many attempts at space travel and now we feel teh time is right because the ecomnomy is doing well. If we are accepted we will send over Commisioner S.Sakuki and to science team coposed of our best scientists and also a trained team of astronauts. Jamnation have also built and tested a new spacecraft known as the S-40, which production had been cut after the first one because of costs.

Specifiction of the S-40
Engines: 4 Fission Charge K+ Engines With lithium Colling
Skin: Neutrolium Plates(Non-Radioactive Alloy)
Looks: Similar to the NASA Spaceplane Built for the international space station
Capacity:Needs 5 piloits and can take up to 14 Non-essentual crew.Can carry up to 5 Tons of non-radioactive equipment or 3tons of Condensed or Radioactive equipment.

Your sincerly: Tyrant Y. Garasu

Note:There is also an x-Refit Which can convert the S-40 to carry thermo-nuclear warheads and K20-Fuel injected Rockets.Making it cobat readyOfcourse you are welcome! We are preparing a hangarslot for your S-40. Regarding the nuclear warheads.....have you read the rules? No weapons once you get into Helveticuz. Hope you have a nice time in Universum Forum!

We are a space faring Civilization already, but I would like to ask why you would ban any nuclear devices, they are a clean and eficient sorce of power, you cant really refuel with liquid gas in outerspace, as you also use oxygen. Might I suggest allowing nuclear based POWER sorces only.Well, yeah that sounds pretty logical to me. But i meant nuclear devices as some sort of weapon. Power supply is up to the nation itself to decide what they want, but at the Spaceport Lab we try to research what is the best and most reliable system, so that we can use it.
Maybe you want to join the UNF and save some money and share your technology with others?

Approved by Overlord Redzhe
Signed Freid Terence - UNF Council
Helveticuz
27-07-2004, 19:15
Bump. And a report from the Helvetian National News!

"Today, several foreign governemtn planes have landed here at Templadia Airport, and being directrly escorted away with helicopters.
Who are they? Well, they are scientists and astronauts going to Universum Forum the new international spaceport program created almost 6 months ago by Yuri Latjevskij.
Yuri now is one of the three Overlords controlling the base, together with Redzhe and Reichsman.
All of them are known scientists and politicians.
Nations such as the Jamnation and Vistadin have joined the program and maybe we can se some rockets or shuttles from our homes in a near future.
The NAS, New Aryan State, has also applyd and joined the program and many people are demonstrating against them having full acces to the base.
But as our beloved Emperor said, EVERYONE is welcome, just as they follow the rules.
As you know, there are strong rules against building wepaons carriers on the ships. Hopefully, this can be another step for mankind....Together.

Jenna Reinhold, HNN Channel 9."
The electric monks
27-07-2004, 19:52
The Sacred Isles of the Monks would like to join. We can provide small short range Chapel class transport class ships that have the posibility of being fitted with high energy weapons, if you wish the weapons can be removed with no trouble at all. The chapel class ships are desighned for extremely high atmospheric flight but again adaptation will take a matter of days. One only problem with the chapel class ships is that the fission cells burn out after about a week of constant use and are bulky limiting the capacity of fuel to 10 cells if other suplies are needed. We are also willing to suply pilots for these craft as they can be difficult to fly. We will provide this in return for a share of the scientific data gained from the programme
Siesatia
27-07-2004, 20:33
I have dispatched two Sonic Personel Transports for your base, please prepare to recieve them, they also have 5 of my scientists. While we refuse to give all of our technology (For good reasons) We will contribute, when we know of what level you have, our ships have poor ShiptoShip combat, but VERY good orbital bombardment Systems, We also collect power in a way which my scientists will explain. And our engines involve the folding of the space-time continum, which is more reliable than conventional FTL drives.
Helveticuz
27-07-2004, 20:45
The Sacred Isles of the Monks would like to join. We can provide small short range Chapel class transport class ships that have the posibility of being fitted with high energy weapons, if you wish the weapons can be removed with no trouble at all. The chapel class ships are desighned for extremely high atmospheric flight but again adaptation will take a matter of days. One only problem with the chapel class ships is that the fission cells burn out after about a week of constant use and are bulky limiting the capacity of fuel to 10 cells if other suplies are needed. We are also willing to suply pilots for these craft as they can be difficult to fly. We will provide this in return for a share of the scientific data gained from the programmeYou are welcome to join, and bring some, or all, of your Chapnel ship with you. I'm sure we can fix the problem with the fission cells at our Scientific Center at the base.
Helveticuz
27-07-2004, 20:46
I have dispatched two Sonic Personel Transports for your base, please prepare to recieve them, they also have 5 of my scientists. While we refuse to give all of our technology (For good reasons) We will contribute, when we know of what level you have, our ships have poor ShiptoShip combat, but VERY good orbital bombardment Systems, We also collect power in a way which my scientists will explain. And our engines involve the folding of the space-time continum, which is more reliable than conventional FTL drives.Thank you for your donation!
Nazi Weaponized Virus
27-07-2004, 21:19
The Republic of Nazi Weaponized Virus is willing to donate up to $8 Billion Per Year for peaceful space exploration missions. Up until now we have only sent satellites and unmanned probes into space, but now we wish to purchase one of your Spsace Shuttles (X20's) for combined space missions between both of our nations.

We are also willing to donate our Rocket Launch Site near New Athens for any future space missions that you wish to launch. And, of course, that means our Space Control Centre, also located in New Athens, would be open to facilitate your needs. For research purposes we may be able to donate our largest Science Institute (The Research, Development and Study Institute in Salonika) for any research purposes your nation may have, this means of course that our scientists will also be happy to facilitate your needs.

We look forward to a long a prosperous union in Space Exploration,

Nickos Hadjithomas,
International Development Minister,
The Republic of Nazi Weaponized Virus.
Siesatia
27-07-2004, 21:27
Specs for Sonic Personel Transport
*Structural: Titanium-Steel
*Power: [Classified for now]
*Engines: Conventional Low power, short range engines. Nuclear based.
*Holds 8 people, One piolet, two Crew
*Sabre Winged with Reflexive thrusters, Atmospheric Thrusters
*light, titanium armor. Atmosheric Shields
*Minimal stealth
*These are short range diplomatic or personel use. They Can be outfitted with small projectile weapons, however they are not a of right now.

The two transports silver paint glistened in the desert sun, as they touched down on the lit up pad. Repulsors engaging when they were 3 feet from the ground, and Gently setting down. The Crew began unloading some of the stored parts and computers. The five scientists sat awaiting their contacts. As did the two captains of the ships. Where should we go from now?
Helveticuz
27-07-2004, 22:49
The Republic of Nazi Weaponized Virus is willing to donate up to $8 Billion Per Year for peaceful space exploration missions. Up until now we have only sent satellites and unmanned probes into space, but now we wish to purchase one of your Spsace Shuttles (X20's) for combined space missions between both of our nations.

We are also willing to donate our Rocket Launch Site near New Athens for any future space missions that you wish to launch. And, of course, that means our Space Control Centre, also located in New Athens, would be open to facilitate your needs. For research purposes we may be able to donate our largest Science Institute (The Research, Development and Study Institute in Salonika) for any research purposes your nation may have, this means of course that our scientists will also be happy to facilitate your needs.

We look forward to a long a prosperous union in Space Exploration,

Nickos Hadjithomas,
International Development Minister,
The Republic of Nazi Weaponized Virus.
Thank you for the donations! And you are very welcome into the UNF. Please send over some of your scientists over to Universum Forum to join the other nations researchstaff. The New Athens spaceport would not be necesarry, but we could take it apart and move it to Helveticuz. The Universum Forum is so big that we don't need another spaceport/rocket launch site. But thanks anyway.

Specs for Sonic Personel Transport
*Structural: Titanium-Steel
*Power: [Classified for now]
*Engines: Conventional Low power, short range engines. Nuclear based.
*Holds 8 people, One piolet, two Crew
*Sabre Winged with Reflexive thrusters, Atmospheric Thrusters
*light, titanium armor. Atmosheric Shields
*Minimal stealth
*These are short range diplomatic or personel use. They Can be outfitted with small projectile weapons, however they are not a of right now.

The two transports silver paint glistened in the desert sun, as they touched down on the lit up pad. Repulsors engaging when they were 3 feet from the ground, and Gently setting down. The Crew began unloading some of the stored parts and computers. The five scientists sat awaiting their contacts. As did the two captains of the ships. Where should we go from now?Sounds really great! Thanks again for the SPT.

The UNF Crew quickly walked towards the landing site, and stepped forward to one of the captains:

-Siesatian transporters? Sign this paper and follow us, please.
Siesatia
27-07-2004, 22:58
The captains signed, and were led off with the 5 scientists.
Helveticuz
27-07-2004, 23:21
They were led to the Main building of the UNF comlpex. A huge silver-metal/glass building just infront of the three placed launch pads.
As they came inside, to the entré-section filled with light from the walls of windows, the UNF crew took them to their apartments.
Outside, they saw a truck with the cargo driving into a large building on the far end of the base to the right, it was the Elevator Hall building.
Inside 20 large elevators moved engines and other supplies up and down from the underground section. The UNF prepared a meeting for the Research Teams who had arrived this and yesterday, at 2PM, to introduce them and to give them a tour in the base and show them the labs.
Nazi Weaponized Virus
27-07-2004, 23:26
Nearly a mile high in the air - NVW's top scientists (in the fields of astro physics, rocketry and spacial phenomena, as well as a host of other subjects.) Were seated in the special 2 Engine VIP Plane, there were approximately 16 of them, and they were headed for The Capitol City of Helveticuz's Airport, to link up with the other nations Scientists there.

They would be lead by NWV's head scientist in the field of spacial exploration - Constantinos Kapsis.
Helveticuz
27-07-2004, 23:35
At the Templadia Airport in Helvetia, 2 helicopters landed to transport the NWV scientists to Universum Forum.

OOC: That's all for tonite. I live in sweden an' here time is 12.33PM, and i have to go to work at 7AM tomorrow.
Siesatia
28-07-2004, 00:01
The scientists took the tour, passing labs, hangers, and warehouses. Each had its own distinctive style and technologies. The scientists looked on, impressed by some, unimpressed by others. Finally they reached the empty lab which would be theirs. Perfect, they moved in the computers and had the ships taxied into the hanger.
We would like to know what level of technology that your power sources contain, as we have a new, clean, renewable source. If yours is close enough to ours though, we will decide that you do not need it, and move on to the next topic. We also have two shipyards, if we come up with any good designs I will have them build it if you supply the parts. Any excess supplies I will accept as a donation.
Jamnation
28-07-2004, 00:23
I think now would be time to start work on an international space station shared equally among each nation participating in the space program.
This would not only benefit the scientific work of the space program but also allow easier transport into space and also permanent 'space docks' in which craft could be kept.
Cullenus
28-07-2004, 00:28
We agree with Jamnation. Any proposed plans for an IST?

occ: Also, I think our organization needs a name. I have no clue what to call this.. um.. agreement or group.
Siesatia
28-07-2004, 00:32
Lets discuss the basic structure first, and build up from that, first, how big? how many people will it hold? what shape?
Cullenus
28-07-2004, 01:04
Well, we could have each country submit a plan for their own part of the station. Have it built. And then put them together. Each nation can contribute a module.

Here is my plan. It can go up. And others can be attached.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/MatthewCH/NationStates/Cullenus1.jpg
Dublin Commune
28-07-2004, 01:21
The Dublin Commune has historically deciced to join the new space agency in the hope that it will be to the benifit of all mankind. It has been decided that it is best to unite the efforts of mankind. We already have several sattelites orbiting Earth. We have a orbital telescope up in the heavens too. We have a weather sattelite in orbit around Mars which allows us to gain information about the plenet.

We are willing to share all the advances we have gained. We are sending our represetive to the UNF, People's Commissar Gillen.
Siesatia
28-07-2004, 01:22
Im bad at drawing, but will built a defence and security module.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v347/UthRptr2/Defencemodule.bmp
Dublin Commune
28-07-2004, 01:28
Our speciality in terms of space exploration is heavy lifting rockets. We are willing to supply the new project with ten large Red Liberty rockets and 20 medium Hope of Mankind rockets per annum. This would be useful in assembling and resupplying a space station. they can also sent sattelites into orbit. The number of rockets supplied can be increased if certain projects need more.

We would also be willing to help construct a new launch pad. We propose that the new allaince be called the Space Movement and that its
Cullenus
28-07-2004, 01:36
If we could get my module up in orbit for starts that would be good. And our nation could also use the labs. Any volunteers on constructing it and taking it up?
Bureaucracia
28-07-2004, 01:41
Bureaucracia will join the space program.
Cullenus
28-07-2004, 01:48
I have a question for all members... are any of your nations located anywhere that can be coordinated in the RL world?
Siesatia
28-07-2004, 03:05
Don't know, Im on the moon.
Nazi Weaponized Virus
28-07-2004, 05:50
The NWV science team, although distinguished as they were worldwide, yet again arrived late for another Conference. Being ushered into the Forum Room they took the places and made thier intentions clear - they fully supported the building of an Orbital Space Platform, (basically a Space Station) - the like of which the World had never seen.

As the head scientist Nickos Hadjithomas put it, "We, as a race, the human race, have never accomplished the building of a large space station capable of supporting a community of more than 300, this should be our number one priority. And in addition, I believe this station provides a great opportunity to also act as a 'Launch pad in Space' capable of launching rockets into the far reaches of the galaxy without having to worry about ascent and descent into and out of the atmosphere."

The respected, bespectacled NWV Scientist took his seat and waited for the response.
Helveticuz
28-07-2004, 10:49
We agree with Jamnation. Any proposed plans for an IST?

occ: Also, I think our organization needs a name. I have no clue what to call this.. um.. agreement or group.I also agree, and yes we should start planning for an IST.
Regarding the name for the organisation, but eh idea of voting forward a name sounds good. My proposals will be: Life Space Agency (LSA), United Space Movement (USM) or International Space Organisation (ISO).

Our speciality in terms of space exploration is heavy lifting rockets. We are willing to supply the new project with ten large Red Liberty rockets and 20 medium Hope of Mankind rockets per annum. This would be useful in assembling and resupplying a space station. they can also sent sattelites into orbit. The number of rockets supplied can be increased if certain projects need more.

We would also be willing to help construct a new launch pad. We propose that the new allaince be called the Space Movement and that itsThank you for the donation, and for joinings us! You are very welcome!

Bureaucracia will join the space program.Yes, your are welcome! I suppose you have your own ships? Otherwise we have 10 X20 left to borrow.

The NWV science team, although distinguished as they were worldwide, yet again arrived late for another Conference. Being ushered into the Forum Room they took the places and made thier intentions clear - they fully supported the building of an Orbital Space Platform, (basically a Space Station) - the like of which the World had never seen.

As the head scientist Nickos Hadjithomas put it, "We, as a race, the human race, have never accomplished the building of a large space station capable of supporting a community of more than 300, this should be our number one priority. And in addition, I believe this station provides a great opportunity to also act as a 'Launch pad in Space' capable of launching rockets into the far reaches of the galaxy without having to worry about ascent and descent into and out of the atmosphere."

The respected, bespectacled NWV Scientist took his seat and waited for the response.Very interesting idea! What do you, other nations, think about this? It will ofcourse take alot of time and money, but Helveticuz think it's worth it. Does The NWV have any blueprints or concept art of the "space-station"? Otherwise, our famous architects would be glad to show what they're capable of...
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To All Nations in the Universum Forum Program: We do also need some sort of logo, so that other nations will see and recognize us. As soon as the organisation name has been put, i would like you all (if you can) to submit a logo. It doesn't have to be much, a couple of letters, but ofcourse it can be how stylish you ever want it. Your decision. You may submit max. 2 logos, and not to big. Good luck!

Honoured Yuri Latjevskij, UNF Council.
Balrogga
28-07-2004, 12:44
Greetings from the Empire of Balrogga.

Years ago when we first discovered and developed nuclear power we looked around at the way other nations were using it as a weapon against their neighbors and decided we were not going to develop nuclear grade weapons. Instead we put all the time and money into a space program and within 20 years we had placed an orbital city above our region. We then developed a system to gather resources from the asteriod belt. We next placed solar collection satelites in orbit around the sun with the stations needed to relay the gathered power back to Earth. We opened a store front to sell this power.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=333742

In the interest of peaceful expansion into space we would like to donate a relay satelite and we would also, with your permission of course, donate and construct the 1000 ft (305m) dish costing 100 million and keep it maintained for the power needs of the launch site itself. This would give you approximetly 1200 Tw of power to use.

We would also like to help defend your international space station with some of our fighters. This would allow you to concentrate upon developing your technology without needing to worry about defending it from raiders or hostiles.

We will do all of this free of charge for the space program.
Siesatia
28-07-2004, 15:57
Greetings Balrogga, you, like my nation harvest power from the sun too, maybe not in the same way, but... Very nice,Microwave power is safe, clean, and doesnt use as much space as nuclear, or *shudders* Gas. We harvest power for our ships in a similar way, I believe you use the solar rays though, correct?
Helveticuz
28-07-2004, 16:43
Greetings from the Empire of Balrogga.

Years ago when we first discovered and developed nuclear power we looked around at the way other nations were using it as a weapon against their neighbors and decided we were not going to develop nuclear grade weapons. Instead we put all the time and money into a space program and within 20 years we had placed an orbital city above our region. We then developed a system to gather resources from the asteriod belt. We next placed solar collection satelites in orbit around the sun with the stations needed to relay the gathered power back to Earth. We opened a store front to sell this power.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=333742

In the interest of peaceful expansion into space we would like to donate a relay satelite and we would also, with your permission of course, donate and construct the 1000 ft (305m) dish costing 100 million and keep it maintained for the power needs of the launch site itself. This would give you approximetly 1200 Tw of power to use.

We would also like to help defend your international space station with some of our fighters. This would allow you to concentrate upon developing your technology without needing to worry about defending it from raiders or hostiles.

We will do all of this free of charge for the space program.Interesting story there, but we won't use your storefront, or any other, as we will build all of our own parts and ships etc. Regarding the defence of our spacestation, we say no. If we would need some sort of defence for the station, it would be OUR defence.
But thank you anyway, and thank you for your donation. You have permittion to build the dish, but under strict supervision by our guards and soldiers.

We'll see you soon up there.

Approved by Overlord Reichsman
Signed Freid Terence - UNF Council
Balrogga
28-07-2004, 17:52
I will send a construction crew and the appropriate resources down to the coordinates you provide. They will build the dish in the location you designate and then leave. There will be a maintance crew, or your own if you wish them to be trained, send through your regular channels at a set time period. At the completion, I will send the 1200 Tw through your donated relay satelite. You will never have to pay for this power or the construction provided it is used for the space program. I suggest placing the dish away from any launch sites because that much power traveling through a vessel might "disrupt" them if they travel through the beam. I have the confidence you can find the ideal location.

I am pleases you decided to accept my offer to power your complex. It is the least I can do to help.
Balrogga
28-07-2004, 17:59
Greetings Balrogga, you, like my nation harvest power from the sun too, maybe not in the same way, but... Very nice,Microwave power is safe, clean, and doesnt use as much space as nuclear, or *shudders* Gas. We harvest power for our ships in a similar way, I believe you use the solar rays though, correct?


Actually I power my Mobile Factories, Shipyards, Cities, and Bases in this fashion when they are close enough to a solar body. In the depths of space I have to resort to Fusion Reactors. I am currently working on a way to harvest a different kind of energy that is 80% abundant throught the universe but I am keeping that secret until it is perfected.
Layarteb
28-07-2004, 18:06
If you are looking for launch vehicles, space exploration vehicles, and transport systems that are modern tech look no further than here:

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=319076
Nazi Weaponized Virus
28-07-2004, 18:20
Very interesting idea! What do you, other nations, think about this? It will ofcourse take alot of time and money, but Helveticuz think it's worth it. Does The NWV have any blueprints or concept art of the "space-station"? Otherwise, our famous architects would be glad to show what they're capable of...

Honoured Yuri Latjevskij, UNF Council.

We currently have no plans, but have a general idea what it will be like - we will fit it with small trajectory thrusters so as to rotate it around and create artificial gravity. This will allow for greater practicality and will mean that we can finally make a Space Station that is as big as we want it to be, we propose there will be 4 Small Labs, 1 Bigger Lab, Living Quarters, A Cafeteria, Recreational Rooms and a seperate Part of the facility for launching Rockets off of the station.

We propose that funding from all countries starts right away and that every country gives at least a $1 Billion cheque for this new project. We also propose that designing this station starts right away.

Oh and The Government of Helveticuz.
I promised your Space Project a Sizeable amount of initial funding from our Government:


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Hereby this cheque is payable to: Helveticuz

For the sum of: $15,000,000,000

(Fifteen Billion Dollars Only)

Licensed by: The Government of Nazi Weaponized Virus
Signed: Stelios Louis (Head Banker)
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Helveticuz
28-07-2004, 19:14
I will send a construction crew and the appropriate resources down to the coordinates you provide. They will build the dish in the location you designate and then leave. There will be a maintance crew, or your own if you wish them to be trained, send through your regular channels at a set time period. At the completion, I will send the 1200 Tw through your donated relay satelite. You will never have to pay for this power or the construction provided it is used for the space program. I suggest placing the dish away from any launch sites because that much power traveling through a vessel might "disrupt" them if they travel through the beam. I have the confidence you can find the ideal location.

I am pleases you decided to accept my offer to power your complex. It is the least I can do to help.This means alot for our organisation, and you are forever welcome to join if you want. I'm sure every nation in UNF thanks you very much, atleast I do.

If you are looking for launch vehicles, space exploration vehicles, and transport systems that are modern tech look no further than here:

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=319076As I said to the other nations who are trying to sell shuttles, launchsites etc; We make it ourselfs, in our factories. But thank you for your interest anyway.

We currently have no plans, but have a general idea what it will be like - we will fit it with small trajectory thrusters so as to rotate it around and create artificial gravity. This will allow for greater practicality and will mean that we can finally make a Space Station that is as big as we want it to be, we propose there will be 4 Small Labs, 1 Bigger Lab, Living Quarters, A Cafeteria, Recreational Rooms and a seperate Part of the facility for launching Rockets off of the station.

We propose that funding from all countries starts right away and that every country gives at least a $1 Billion cheque for this new project. We also propose that designing this station starts right away.

Oh and The Government of Helveticuz.
I promised your Space Project a Sizeable amount of initial funding from our Government:Sound VERY interesting! Our architects and scientists are planning a meeting to inform all scientists at UNF about the project. After that i'm sure plenty of designs will come up.
I give 10 billion Helvetian Dollars for the project.

ooc: I have my pen ready, now let's paint! "My architects" will show what they are capable of..
Nazi Weaponized Virus
28-07-2004, 19:17
Perhaps a frisbee like design that gets bigger towards the middle?

It would be easier to rotate using thrusters and thus create artificial gravity.
Helveticuz
28-07-2004, 19:23
Perhaps a frisbee like design that gets bigger towards the middle?

It would be easier to rotate using thrusters and thus create artificial gravity.Yes, it should be.

OOC: Btw updated the first post, the "infromation" post.
Dublin Commune
28-07-2004, 21:31
The Dublin Commune already has a space program. We have a weather probe orbiting Mars transmitting back information about the red planet. We have a state-of-the-art telescope in orbit around Earth. We also have a number of other satellites in orbit around Earth.
We are willing to share all the advances we make with the other nations in our union. We would hope that other nations would help us develop new and better rockets. We would also appreciate economic assistance to help expand rocket production within our factories.
Our rockets can be used at the Dublin commune’s space centre or at the main international base. We are willing to help in the construction of a new launch pad at the international base. We have decades of experience and trained experts. We can draw up plans and fly in workers as soon as we have clearance.
Dublin Commune
28-07-2004, 21:36
The Dublin Commune suggests that the new international space effort be officially given a title. We suggest the Space Movement as a suitable title. We also suggest that the Starry Plough (a star constellation) be used as our symbol. The Starry Plough represents our hopes and goals for space exploration.


http://flagspot.net/flags/ie-stpl.html
Helveticuz
28-07-2004, 21:56
The Dublin Commune suggests that the new international space effort be officially given a title. We suggest the Space Movement as a suitable title. We also suggest that the Starry Plough (a star constellation) be used as our symbol. The Starry Plough represents our hopes and goals for space exploration.


http://flagspot.net/flags/ie-stpl.htmlYes, a fine suggestion. But wait til the other nations have given their proposal.
Have you seen my suggestion? if not: Life Space Agency (LSA) or, as the name we have now, Universum Forum (UNF).

OOC: Btw, i have updated the first post, "infromation post". Check that...
Helveticuz
29-07-2004, 00:14
Bump. Everyone new, read the first post! You will find all necessary knowing there..
Dublin Commune
29-07-2004, 00:19
Can I start building that launch pad.
Helveticuz
29-07-2004, 00:32
Can I start building that launch pad.Uhm, well we've already got 8 of them. 3 placed and 5 mobile. Next to the left pad, there is room for another. I will send some of my trucks over to help you transport the material.

OOC: GTG for tonight, answer all of your questions tomorrow. Can any other nation than Dublin Commune propose an organisation name? or symbol/logo?
All suggestions are accepted.
Proposed names: Life Space Agency, Universum Forum, Space Movement.
Dublin Commune
29-07-2004, 00:38
So do you want us to build you a new launch site or not. We can also build a control tower plus other amenities
Dublin Commune
29-07-2004, 00:40
OOC: sorry messages got a bit mixed up there.
Cullenus
29-07-2004, 06:14
Concerning the design of the space station. I like the idea of the large disc shape... but also it will need to be able to be added on to in the future. It will be relatively hard to add modules to the disc shape. So I propose the large disc (being the main of the station) be fixed to a long column in which it will spin around. The column will then contain ports to which other modules and/or extensions can be added. Also it will contain solar panels to power the column and any modules added to it (that is if the station has its own separate power source).

My proposed blueprints: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/MatthewCH/NationStates/ISS.jpg

ooc: im surprised at how good my paint skills turned out. lol
Cullenus
29-07-2004, 06:48
bump
Nazi Weaponized Virus
29-07-2004, 08:41
Concerning the design of the space station. I like the idea of the large disc shape... but also it will need to be able to be added on to in the future. It will be relatively hard to add modules to the disc shape. So I propose the large disc (being the main of the station) be fixed to a long column in which it will spin around. The column will then contain ports to which other modules and/or extensions can be added. Also it will contain solar panels to power the column and any modules added to it (that is if the station has its own separate power source).

My proposed blueprints: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/MatthewCH/NationStates/ISS.jpg

ooc: im surprised at how good my paint skills turned out. lol

Nice Blueprints, but we need a small Fixed Launch Pad on the side. To launch space missions from the Space Station itself, it will save trouble of breaking, reentering the atmosphere and will be a world first in NS Modern Tech.

I propose to Helveticuz also that we be called "The International Spacial Exploration Coalition" Or "ISEC".

My Government will also finish production of 3 X-33 Venture Star's within the next 1 NS Year, to run Missions up to the station while we are building it. The X-33 is an expensive project and utilises many new features.

New Technology

- Advanced Lifting body a less developed version also seen on the Space Shuttle.

- Graphite/epoxy LH2 tanks, that not only hold and refrigerate the fuel but are an integral part of the load-bearing structure.

- Four GCG-411 (Caesium) Ion Propulsion Drives - Early System and largely untested, if inefficient, engines will be swtiched back to liquid hydrogen propulsion. But if effective provides massive potential, up to Mach 50-60 - also safer than orthodox propulsion

- TPS consisting of metallic thermal panels that form the undercarriage instead of being attached to it. The Metallic panels shift as the temperature changes.

- Compounded Graphite, Light but strong and most effective material against radioactivity.



Features

- Could be launced from the station itself - Fixed with 'lock on' compounded graphite slips on the undebelly. That can attach to another vertical pole like structure.

- Max. Speed - Mach 60.

- Max. Time in Space - 2 Weeks.

- Max. Crew - 12

- Length - 100 Feet

- Width - 122 Feet

- Takeoff Weight - 255,000lb

http://www.tc.cornell.edu/Research/CMI/RLVsource/Pics/venturestar_2.png

Testing of the Ion Propulsion Drives will begin, if proven effective we will start the first stages of bringin the necessary equipment up to build the station.

We are also working on the X-38, a vechile like the X-33 but intended for emergency evacuation of the station. One could be kept in dock at all times to provide this evacuation method.

http://www.astronautix.com/graphics/x/x38d.jpg

This, however is only expected to be available in 4 NS Years.
Helveticuz
29-07-2004, 10:51
Nice Blueprints, but we need a small Fixed Launch Pad on the side. To launch space missions from the Space Station itself, it will save trouble of breaking, reentering the atmosphere and will be a world first in NS Modern Tech.

I propose to Helveticuz also that we be called "The International Spacial Exploration Coalition" Or "ISEC".

My Government will also finish production of 3 X-33 Venture Star's within the next 1 NS Year, to run Missions up to the station while we are building it. The X-33 is an expensive project and utilises many new features.

New Technology

- Advanced Lifting body a less developed version also seen on the Space Shuttle.

- Graphite/epoxy LH2 tanks, that not only hold and refrigerate the fuel but are an integral part of the load-bearing structure.

- Four GCG-411 (Caesium) Ion Propulsion Drives - Early System and largely untested, if inefficient, engines will be swtiched back to liquid hydrogen propulsion. But if effective provides massive potential, up to Mach 50-60 - also safer than orthodox propulsion

- TPS consisting of metallic thermal panels that form the undercarriage instead of being attached to it. The Metallic panels shift as the temperature changes.

- Compounded Graphite, Light but strong and most effective material against radioactivity.



Features

- Could be launced from the station itself - Fixed with 'lock on' compounded graphite slips on the undebelly. That can attach to another vertical pole like structure.

- Max. Speed - Mach 60.

- Max. Time in Space - 2 Weeks.

- Max. Crew - 12

- Length - 100 Feet

- Width - 122 Feet

- Takeoff Weight - 255,000lb

http://www.tc.cornell.edu/Research/CMI/RLVsource/Pics/venturestar_2.png

Testing of the Ion Propulsion Drives will begin, if proven effective we will start the first stages of bringin the necessary equipment up to build the station.

We are also working on the X-38, a vechile like the X-33 but intended for emergency evacuation of the station. One could be kept in dock at all times to provide this evacuation method.

http://www.astronautix.com/graphics/x/x38d.jpg

This, however is only expected to be available in 4 NS Years.Nice going, NWV and Cullenus. I will start my sketching of the space station as soon as I get home from work.
The name, ISEC, sounds nice, what do the other members think?

X33 will be, if you allow us to interfere, supported by the organisation and Helveticuz. So that it will be up sooner and be produced cheaper. As you can see in the first post, we have several factories and windtunnels to test it.

Dublin Commune: No, you do not have permition to build a launch site. We already got 8 of them. Control tower is already there. Check first post and you see whats built.
Nazi Weaponized Virus
29-07-2004, 10:56
Offer accepted, also the X-33 is renamed to the AG-1. All Blueprints, 1 near finished prototype, (I need the other 2 finished, and you only need one to develop more) and 1000's of Gigabytes of info on the X-33 are being provided to your Space Forum now Helveticuz. We hope the AG-1 can become the official Space Vechile of the ISEC.
Balrogga
29-07-2004, 12:13
IC:

The construction crew arrived and will begin building the Dish to receive the power transfer. It will be completed in 3 NS months and I will begin power transfer after testing is completed and you have connected the recieving station with the launch complex.

If you ever are in need of emergency assistance feel free to call upon us. We will provide whatever assistance we can.

I know you wish to construct every part of the station and other projects yourself. I did it the same way so I understand. We just want you to know there is a source of assistance up here.


OCC:

I would be interested in joining but I am a bit ahead of you. I spent 50 years developing this stuff instead of wasting time on missiles. Just keep me in mind or make me an invisable/honorary member who has no say in what you do but can help if needed.
Nazi Weaponized Virus
29-07-2004, 12:22
We at the ISEC thank you for your support.
Balrogga
29-07-2004, 12:26
I will continue to support you with free power as long as the organization holds together.
Marak
29-07-2004, 12:51
Marak is interested in your space program, and also, is it possible to buy any of your spacecraft?
Helveticuz
29-07-2004, 14:50
IC:

The construction crew arrived and will begin building the Dish to receive the power transfer. It will be completed in 3 NS months and I will begin power transfer after testing is completed and you have connected the recieving station with the launch complex.

If you ever are in need of emergency assistance feel free to call upon us. We will provide whatever assistance we can.

I know you wish to construct every part of the station and other projects yourself. I did it the same way so I understand. We just want you to know there is a source of assistance up here.


OCC:

I would be interested in joining but I am a bit ahead of you. I spent 50 years developing this stuff instead of wasting time on missiles. Just keep me in mind or make me an invisable/honorary member who has no say in what you do but can help if needed.Thank you again for your donations and support! Nice to know we have someone to be trusted.

OOC: yeah, i understand you. But you are welcome into the ISEC for real anytime you want, just contact me. From now on, you are a proud member of the newly found ISEC Aid Group.
Helveticuz
29-07-2004, 14:54
Marak is interested in your space program, and also, is it possible to buy any of your spacecraft?Yes you are very welcome into the ISEC. Regarding the ships, no, not yet.
But as soon as the AG-1 is finished (like 1 NS year) we will massproduce it in our factories and sell it to members of ISEC and ISECAG.
Remember, the first post (information post) is regulary updated, so if you want information check the post first before you ask.
Thank you.
Dublin Commune
29-07-2004, 20:04
A team of 10 cosmonauts and other assorted staff left Dublin today for the UNF . 5 Large Red Liberty Rockets were flown in parts to the UNF and assembled in the hanger. They are ready to launch at a moments notice. The Dublin Commune accepts the name ISEC but is disappointed it was not consulted. We look forward to the construction of the AG-1.
Nazi Weaponized Virus
29-07-2004, 20:08
NWV Government offers its congratulations to Helveticuz on what looks like turning out to be a good permenant space coalition. We hope that after the Station is complete - we can concentrate on even more extraordinary goals. Our own scientists recently briefed us that a moon base project "was feasible within the next 25 years".
Balrogga
29-07-2004, 21:41
Thank you again for your donations and support! Nice to know we have someone to be trusted.

OOC: yeah, i understand you. But you are welcome into the ISEC for real anytime you want, just contact me. From now on, you are a proud member of the newly found ISEC Aid Group.


Thank You. I would like to be. I will also allow you to develop your technology at your own pace and will not force anything I have developed upon you.
Dublin Commune
29-07-2004, 21:58
We of the Dublin Commune are planning to send a probe to Mars. It will be a probe that will land on the planet and sent back reports by radio signal. This mission we will fully undertake. We will build the probe and the rocket and it will launch of from our territory. We will share all the knowledge we gain with the ISEC. It will arrive on Mars in 1+1/2 NS years.
We would defiantly be interested in developing a lunar base with the ISEC.
Cockcephus
29-07-2004, 22:12
The Republic of Cockcephus is very interested in joining your space consortium. We are applying for membership in your group in order to foster peace, goodwill, and the colonization of space for the benefit of all mankind.

Please tell us what you need, and what we need to do to enter the space age.
Quillium
29-07-2004, 22:23
The Federation of Quillium is a new yet intellectuall state that would like to add itself to the noble cause of space exploration, experimentation, and collonization. Please contact me as soon as possible so we can contribute to this worthy goal.

P.S. My government would also like to know what exactly this will cost our nation in terms of resources, manpower, and money.
Helveticuz
29-07-2004, 22:38
The Republic of Cockcephus is very interested in joining your space consortium. We are applying for membership in your group in order to foster peace, goodwill, and the colonization of space for the benefit of all mankind.

Please tell us what you need, and what we need to do to enter the space age.You are very welcome into the ISEC! Feel proud! Any information you need is probably in the first post, check that.

The Federation of Quillium is a new yet intellectuall state that would like to add itself to the noble cause of space exploration, experimentation, and collonization. Please contact me as soon as possible so we can contribute to this worthy goal.

P.S. My government would also like to know what exactly this will cost our nation in terms of resources, manpower, and money.You are also welcome into the ISEC! You should read the first post for information, if you donät find what you were looking for, ask me or NWV (Nazi Weaponized Virus).

We of the Dublin Commune are planning to send a probe to Mars. It will be a probe that will land on the planet and sent back reports by radio signal. This mission we will fully undertake. We will build the probe and the rocket and it will launch of from our territory. We will share all the knowledge we gain with the ISEC. It will arrive on Mars in 1+1/2 NS years.
We would defiantly be interested in developing a lunar base with the ISEC.Yes that would be nice. GL with your probe! Regarding the ISEC lunar base, every nation in ISEC must give money to the project. That is the whole idea of the program :). If everyone gives in a little money, it'll be cheaper. The more nations who gives money, the less money they'll have to give.

OOC: I've made a few logos, and now i want to hear what you think. Vote for either 1 to 5.

http://upl.silentwhisper.net/uplfolders/upload0/ISEC_Vote.jpg
Siesatia
30-07-2004, 02:45
number 3, definately.
Cullenus
30-07-2004, 05:52
I agree... number 3 is pretty dece.
Cullenus
30-07-2004, 06:54
The Kingdom of Cullenus has neared the completion of our first shace ship, the Cullenus UC-1 (Utility Craft). We ask that it be constructed through ISEC factories and when completed we can surrender our use of the X20.

Also Cullenus is adding a donation of 1.3 trillian dollars to the ISEC fund.


Specifiction of the UC-1
Engines: 2 Block2 configuration engines + 1 Standard thruster
Skin: zinc carbide.
Capacity: 3 tons
Crew: 2 pilots, 1 operator
Note: The UC-1 is very flexible in the missions it can do. Mechanical arms can be added for construction, it can haul cargo or personnel, and is great for exploration purposes.

Image: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/MatthewCH/NationStates/UC-1.gif
Helveticuz
30-07-2004, 10:34
IC: Nice to hear that Cullenus. ISEC factories are open, byt not for long. As soon as the VentureStar project is finished we will massproduce it and sell to ISEC nations. AG-1 VentureStar is top-modern technology, so it's hard to beat. Ofcourse it will be very cheap, casue it's made in ISEC's own factories.

OOC:Okey, two votes on number 3. Peronally i like number 1.
My vote goes for number 1. And another thing: We need a map of the Universum Forum spaceport, so anyone who can plase make a try. I'm already sketching on a map.
And, anyone else who have any logo suggestions? If not, vote among those i proposed: http://upl.silentwhisper.net/uplfolders/upload0/ISEC_Vote.jpg
Balrogga
30-07-2004, 12:13
Remember to place the dish some distance away.

I think both # 1 and # 3 are good. You can place #3 on the body of the ships and rockets and #1 on the wing surfaces and tail. Look at many of the airlines. They have both a logo and a graphic on their planes. One on the fuselage and one on the tail.
Cullenus
30-07-2004, 14:42
IC: Nice to hear that Cullenus. ISEC factories are open, byt not for long. As soon as the VentureStar project is finished we will massproduce it and sell to ISEC nations. AG-1 VentureStar is top-modern technology, so it's hard to beat. Ofcourse it will be very cheap, casue it's made in ISEC's own factories.

OOC:Okey, two votes on number 3. Peronally i like number 1.
My vote goes for number 1. And another thing: We need a map of the Universum Forum spaceport, so anyone who can plase make a try. I'm already sketching on a map.
And, anyone else who have any logo suggestions? If not, vote among those i proposed: http://upl.silentwhisper.net/uplfolders/upload0/ISEC_Vote.jpg

Cullenus would like to use its position in ISEC to produce a few of the UC-1's for its own use, and others if they would like. The UC-1 is not meant for competing with the AG-1. It's just that Cullenus doesnt have any suitable factories of its own. If anything the purpose for production would be for testing. We would like to have 10 UC-1's built, and then construction of the ships could halt.
Helveticuz
30-07-2004, 15:03
Cullenus would like to use its position in ISEC to produce a few of the UC-1's for its own use, and others if they would like. The UC-1 is not meant for competing with the AG-1. It's just that Cullenus doesnt have any suitable factories of its own. If anything the purpose for production would be for testing. We would like to have 10 UC-1's built, and then construction of the ships could halt.Yes, the factories and windtunnels are open for you, as always and for everyone lese in ISEC.
If anyone wishes to buy the UC-1 or AG-1 They should contact me, Cullenus or Nazi Weaponized Virus.

And aside from the subject; I ahve made a few more logos to vote among. So now you have number 1 to 9 to vote from. (Yes, i included the old ones)

1 to 5:http://upl.silentwhisper.net/uplfolders/upload0/ISEC_Vote.jpg
6 to 9:http://upl.silentwhisper.net/uplfolders/upload0/ISEC_Vote222.jpg
Cullenus
30-07-2004, 16:01
I have created a map of the Universum Forum, ISEC. Please veiw it and see if its pretty accurate.

MAP: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/MatthewCH/NationStates/UniversumForumISEC.gif
(remember to enlarge)

ooc: and as for the logos, i cant decide, they are all good.
Helveticuz
30-07-2004, 16:31
I have created a map of the Universum Forum, ISEC. Please veiw it and see if its pretty accurate.

MAP: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/MatthewCH/NationStates/UniversumForumISEC.gif
(remember to enlarge)

ooc: and as for the logos, i cant decide, they are all good.Man, your skilled with that blurprint program u ahve. Maybe Paint lol. I ahve sketched myself with pen and paper (IRL) and might transform it into jpg.
Nice map! But not quite what i had in mind. I am not saying it is bad, it is REALLY good. Let me post my suggestion and maybe you can make a copy. Cause u simply own in paint... :D
Thank you, but you ahve to chose one or two of them. I voted number 1, and two others voted 3.
BRB with the "map".
Balrogga
30-07-2004, 17:45
I still think the dish should be on the other side of the complex from the launch bays. A vessel passing through a 1200 TJ current would be most likely disintregrated.
The Emperor Fenix
30-07-2004, 17:58
also winds created by launches could disturb the dish, not a major problem but its worth taking into account.
Helveticuz
30-07-2004, 18:09
http://upl.silentwhisper.net/uplfolders/upload0/map2_sug.jpg
Something like this maybe, but there wasn't enought space so the buldings came kinda tight :). The underground parkings could be under the park, and the hangar under the launchsites.

Balrogga: Yes, the dish could be moved tot he other side...Cullenus put the dish on the other side of the base :P nice giving orders.

MAP GUIDE:
1. Apartment blocks
2. Gym/excercie center
3. Restaurants and pubs/bars.
4. Underground parking entrance
5. Astronaut School
6. The forum (i wanted a majestic design)
7. Shopping/entertainment
8. Casino
9. Command center
10. Base entrance
11. Astrological Center
12. Wind tunnels hall
13. Security Building
14. Power supply (u all know the dish)
15. Radio/communications buildings
16. Landings strips (oh, forgot to place control towers!)
17. large factories (yes, six of 'em, not ten....it was to much! sry)
18. Small factories
19. Research centers
20. Research lab/underground Large research centers
21. Launch sites
22. Helicopter landing pad
23. underground hangar
Cullenus
30-07-2004, 18:10
Well, that's not the actual blueprint...

Also... is there like a webpage for ISEC? It wold be a great place to post all stats and pictures/blueprints and projects going on.
Helveticuz
30-07-2004, 18:20
Well, that's not the actual blueprint...

Also... is there like a webpage for ISEC? It wold be a great place to post all stats and pictures/blueprints and projects going on.No, not yet. But i can fix that in matter of days :D If you want to. I agree i would be great to have a webpage. But then, i don't really have the time to manage a webpage and updating this and 15 other threads. I'm working 8 hours a day, i have a grilfriend to take care of, many friends who need attention. I simply enought don't have the time. Maybe someone else have ability to make and manage a webpage? Plase contact me either here on NS Forum or at rakblad@hotmail.com. Thank you!

Cullenus: What did u think of my "map", lol. Can you make a copy in your nice paint skills? Also, we need to move the dish away from the launchsites, otherwise it will brake in two.
Siesatia
30-07-2004, 18:24
also winds created by launches could disturb the dish, not a major problem but its worth taking into account.

I doubt this as energy is not really affected by wind. By EMP pulses, maybe, but not wind. However, depending on the construction, I would suggest not using a 'cradle' that is held on by wires, but rather rigidely held by beams. that will stop any wind interfearence once and for all.
Cullenus
30-07-2004, 18:28
Ok I did a quick "tweak" of your original map... if you like it then I can put in into better a skilled drawing.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/MatthewCH/NationStates/map2_sug.gif
Helveticuz
30-07-2004, 18:37
Okey, thats seems good. and maybe a little more space between the buildings...it's kinda thick/packed, isn't it?
Cullenus
30-07-2004, 18:39
Sure thing boss.
Ehrana
30-07-2004, 19:00
Greetings!
In my election campaign for Chancellor of Ehrana, I made the development of research and technology one of the goals for our nation during my first term of office. Therefore, Ehrana is interested in taking part in this project.

We have three HTOL space-planes, the Arlaana series. We would be willing to lend Arlaana II and her crew to the project. Previously, the Arlaana vehicles were grounded due to budgetary constraints, but as our economy is doing rather well, resulting in a marked improvement in tax revenue, we are now capable of resuming the project, without compromising any government services.

I have appointed Doctor Chen Ai, former State Premier of Alta Prefecture as our representative. She holds a doctorate in Astrophysics and currently serves as the chairwoman of the National Aerospace Administration (EVR) Board of Governors.

In addition to our vehicle and our envoy, we are willing to submit the expertise of the EVR and its staff of scientists.

Ehrana and its citizens enthusiastically look forward to participating in this noble endeavour.
Truly yours,
Ehrlan Ekaamu (CDK)
Chancellor.
Helveticuz
30-07-2004, 19:11
You are very welcome into the ISEC program! We thank youi for your donation.
The Emperor Fenix
30-07-2004, 19:35
I doubt this as energy is not really affected by wind. By EMP pulses, maybe, but not wind. However, depending on the construction, I would suggest not using a 'cradle' that is held on by wires, but rather rigidely held by beams. that will stop any wind interfearence once and for all.

sorry to keep butting in, but i meant the wind generated buffeting the dish itself, they do have to be very accurately positioned, as im sure your aware. the only real solution would be to place it far away as its no good just to be confident that there is no movement caused by wind, you need to be sure.
Siesatia
30-07-2004, 19:46
I found a great picture and once I saw it decided it looked similar to my Raptor P3X20 series, Im gonna post it, I really can't draw, so I salvage all my pics.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v347/UthRptr2/RaptorP3X20.bmp
Helveticuz
30-07-2004, 20:35
I found a great picture and once I saw it decided it looked similar to my Raptor P3X20 series, Im gonna post it, I really can't draw, so I salvage all my pics.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v347/UthRptr2/RaptorP3X20.bmpNiiiice! GL with the development!
Nazi Weaponized Virus
30-07-2004, 21:30
The Kingdom of Cullenus has neared the completion of our first shace ship, the Cullenus UC-1 (Utility Craft). We ask that it be constructed through ISEC factories and when completed we can surrender our use of the X20.

Also Cullenus is adding a donation of 1.3 trillian dollars to the ISEC fund.


Specifiction of the UC-1
Engines: 2 Block2 configuration engines + 1 Standard thruster
Skin: zinc carbide.
Capacity: 3 tons
Crew: 2 pilots, 1 operator
Note: The UC-1 is very flexible in the missions it can do. Mechanical arms can be added for construction, it can haul cargo or personnel, and is great for exploration purposes.

Image: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/MatthewCH/NationStates/UC-1.gif

Excellant - Its cargo capabilities easily compare to that of the AG-1 if not better it (although the AG-1 is designed primarily for exploration). NWV is donating $1 Billion from its storefront profits to your project. This will help dearly in assembling the Station.
Scimar
30-07-2004, 21:36
The nation of Scimar dearly wants to join this council, and has a few designs in the works, however, our econemy is rather weak, and we therefore lack teh means to assemble our prototypes when they are finsished. If anyone has a facility for the construction of aerospace craft, and would nto mind *temporally* handing it over to the scimarian goverment along with any nessecary construction matreaials, please notify us. (PLZ note: If you are to associate a cost for this, we will need to pay over time as chash becomes availiable)
Nazi Weaponized Virus
30-07-2004, 21:49
Ion Propulsion: An Explanation from our recent tests and the AG-1 as a whole Speech to ISEC Forum
The gas Xenon - Heavier than air and the highly volatile gasseous form of Francium make up the bulk of the materials pumped into our Ion Propulsion Drive Systems. They require no fuel. Run at speeds that outclass the use of Oxygen and Crude Oil 20 Times over and are 100 Times safer. The drives we use, a public project called the ZHG-15 Engines have been in production for almost 20 years. When the theoretical possibilities of Ion Propulsion first came about.

When the propulsion systems were first tested 10 years ago - there were no astounding results like we have achieved today. Xenon was Ionised on its own using traditional propellant in coordination with it. Its thrust barely equalled traditional methods of Liquid Oxygen and Hydrogen as Propellants.
But over the past 10 years massive developments - in the fields on keeping highly volatile gasseous substances like Francium stable (using Electromagnets) as well as massive advancements in compounded graphite substances 10 times stronger than any diamond (and 3 times lighter), A Central Power Supply Unit that keeps the Ionization Chamber running for up to 50 years until it needs replacing. And advancements in Neutralization that can only be considered 'phenomenal' have compounded to make the AG-1

Primarily a Space Exploration vechile - today the system was first tested and the results were astonishing:

- Nearly 100% of any waste products accumulated are recycled (99.799993% in truth). Thanks to new technologies.

- Thrust equivalent to that of 40 Space Shuttle Engines.

- Speeds which broke the vaunted 'Mach 60' (reaching speeds of Mach 78 - or 92,000 km/ph.

- Ability to remain in space for up to 2 Months on short journeys and 6 years on longer journeys.

- Cargo capabilities three times the size of any former Space Vechile.

- An Ionization Chamber that is the most efficient energy converting piece of equipment on the planet.

- Unbelievably strong - yet light weight materials.

- An environment onboard thats comfort boosts the morale of any astronaut or cosmonaut.

- A revolutionized Cockpit with LED Touch screen displays and the most vast array of sensors that has ever been assembled onto one piece of equipment.

- And a vechile that finally has the capabilities to reach places we could have only dreamed of before. Today, after our results - we can safely say this vechile is the most technologically advanced thing the human race has ever created - That is why, in just 2 Months of perfecting this vechile, NWV will have a fleet of 3 of the most capable machines in our solar system!

*Tomultous Applause*

OOC: We also ask that Helveticuz only allows distribution of 1 of these vechiles to each ISEC Member Nation. No other nations shall be allowed to have these. And that we decide on a name for the Space Station?
Helveticuz
31-07-2004, 00:32
The nation of Scimar dearly wants to join this council, and has a few designs in the works, however, our econemy is rather weak, and we therefore lack teh means to assemble our prototypes when they are finsished. If anyone has a facility for the construction of aerospace craft, and would nto mind *temporally* handing it over to the scimarian goverment along with any nessecary construction matreaials, please notify us. (PLZ note: If you are to associate a cost for this, we will need to pay over time as chash becomes availiable)So, you want in. Welcome! You can use our factories at the spaceport, but the parts are not free. They are cheap, very cheap.I sugegst you either wait until the AG-1 VentureStar is realeased or the UC-1, or you could borrow the X-20 for a period of 1 year. Read to the first post for information.
Helveticuz
31-07-2004, 00:40
Ion Propulsion: An Explanation from our recent tests and the AG-1 as a whole Speech to ISEC Forum
The gas Xenon - Heavier than air and the highly volatile gasseous form of Francium make up the bulk of the materials pumped into our Ion Propulsion Drive Systems. They require no fuel. Run at speeds that outclass the use of Oxygen and Crude Oil 20 Times over and are 100 Times safer. The drives we use, a public project called the ZHG-15 Engines have been in production for almost 20 years. When the theoretical possibilities of Ion Propulsion first came about.

When the propulsion systems were first tested 10 years ago - there were no astounding results like we have achieved today. Xenon was Ionised on its own using traditional propellant in coordination with it. Its thrust barely equalled traditional methods of Liquid Oxygen and Hydrogen as Propellants.
But over the past 10 years massive developments - in the fields on keeping highly volatile gasseous substances like Francium stable (using Electromagnets) as well as massive advancements in compounded graphite substances 10 times stronger than any diamond (and 3 times lighter), A Central Power Supply Unit that keeps the Ionization Chamber running for up to 50 years until it needs replacing. And advancements in Neutralization that can only be considered 'phenomenal' have compounded to make the AG-1

Primarily a Space Exploration vechile - today the system was first tested and the results were astonishing:

- Nearly 100% of any waste products accumulated are recycled (99.799993% in truth). Thanks to new technologies.

- Thrust equivalent to that of 40 Space Shuttle Engines.

- Speeds which broke the vaunted 'Mach 60' (reaching speeds of Mach 78 - or 92,000 km/ph.

- Ability to remain in space for up to 2 Months on short journeys and 6 years on longer journeys.

- Cargo capabilities three times the size of any former Space Vechile.

- An Ionization Chamber that is the most efficient energy converting piece of equipment on the planet.

- Unbelievably strong - yet light weight materials.

- An environment onboard thats comfort boosts the morale of any astronaut or cosmonaut.

- A revolutionized Cockpit with LED Touch screen displays and the most vast array of sensors that has ever been assembled onto one piece of equipment.

- And a vechile that finally has the capabilities to reach places we could have only dreamed of before. Today, after our results - we can safely say this vechile is the most technologically advanced thing the human race has ever created - That is why, in just 2 Months of perfecting this vechile, NWV will have a fleet of 3 of the most capable machines in our solar system!

*Tomultous Applause*

OOC: We also ask that Helveticuz only allows distribution of 1 of these vechiles to each ISEC Member Nation. No other nations shall be allowed to have these. And that we decide on a name for the Space Station?Sounds amazing, totaly amazing. If that is your wish, yes. Only one AG-1 to each ISEC nation. But it's enough since we make all trips together in teams of three. Regarding the space station....no, i'm sorry. The ISEC members will vote for the name they think is most suitable. Just as we did with the organisation namke and the logo.

We still need more votes for the right logo! check the first post for URL and info.
Nazi Weaponized Virus
31-07-2004, 01:03
My vote goes with 4.
Dublin Commune
31-07-2004, 11:14
i vote for 1 but 8 and 9 are good too.
Helveticuz
31-07-2004, 15:32
two votes for 1, two votes for 3, one vote for 4. Hmm..
Helveticuz
01-08-2004, 00:54
Bump!
Ugisi
01-08-2004, 01:02
The Rogue Nation of Ugisi would like to be apart of this space program.
Nazi Weaponized Virus
01-08-2004, 01:08
NWV ISEC Ambassador Statement:
We are planning to begin work on a Next-Gen Space Telescope in coordination with our efforts to build the ISEC Station. The Space Telescope although built entirely by NWV will be owned effectively by all ISEC Member Nations and all will be able to access the data streamed off of it.

The 'ISEC Deep Space Telescope' (or DST) operates on a wavelength of Infra-Red - which is very revolutionary. It will also orbit around 2 Million Km above Earth. Another first - being one of the highest orbits attained by an orbital platform.

Although DST has a planned weight of prievous attempts by NWV to build a spacial Telescope, its primary mirror (a 10.5 meter beryllium reflector) is more than 6 times larger than The 'Cosmos' (our preivous attempt). The Mirror will be launched by an AG-1 Class Spacecraft - which will drop the mirror into orbit, and which will then unfold after the telescope is launched. Sensitive micromotors and wavefront sensors (onboard the AG-1 as well as the DST) will position the mirror segments in the correct location.

The main body behind this creation is The National NWV Science Institute - Which produced the mirror. The 'Holding Beam' (a beam which will contain the electronic elements that link up to the DST) will be 'latched on' to the DST via a series of 'snap on' points. This will also be launched by an AG-1 Class Craft.

The end result will be a Telescope capable of seing like no other. It will be able to trace the origins of the big bang and see distant galaxies with .00001% of the blur we are used to seeing via conventional IR Telescopes.

The 2 Launches will be made in 6 and 8 Months. The first (we ask permission) will be launched from the Universum Forum. And the second from NWV's Cosmos Spacial Launch Centre. This will probably be the inagural mission of ISEC and we are asking that 2 cosmonauts/astronauts from each member nation join the 2 missions in the 14 man crew onboard NWV's AG-1.
Ugisi
01-08-2004, 01:09
Ugisi would love to participate in the exploration of space.
Sign us up.
Scimar
01-08-2004, 02:25
So, you want in. Welcome! You can use our factories at the spaceport, but the parts are not free. They are cheap, very cheap.I sugegst you either wait until the AG-1 VentureStar is realeased or the UC-1, or you could borrow the X-20 for a period of 1 year. Read to the first post for information.
Excellent, We are 25% of the way through our basic engine prototype, we are in the process of planning out the control system and hull design

We might be in need of a X-20 until the our shuttle system is ready.
Helveticuz
01-08-2004, 12:32
Ugisi would love to participate in the exploration of space.
Sign us up.You are very welcome into the ISEC. Feel free to borrow X20 ship, or do you have your own ship?
Helveticuz
01-08-2004, 12:33
Excellent, We are 25% of the way through our basic engine prototype, we are in the process of planning out the control system and hull design

We might be in need of a X-20 until the our shuttle system is ready.We will help you develop your engine in our factories/research centers. We also have several windtunnels to test eventual ship designs. Feel free to use them! And welcome again.
Helveticuz
01-08-2004, 19:18
bump, updated.
Nazi Weaponized Virus
01-08-2004, 20:51
I think we should work out what our annual cash intake is (from all member nations) and work out a budget along the following categories:

- Unmanned Missions (Probes e.t.c).

- Research (New craft e.t.c.).

- Upkeep (Craft/Launch Sites/Universum Forum).

- Development (Craft/ISEC Space Station/Telescope).

- New Projects (Planning stages)
Scimar
01-08-2004, 21:27
Bumbity Thumpity Bumbity Thump
Cullenus
01-08-2004, 21:58
Do we have an estimated time until the construction of the space station begins? Are there any other problems to be worked out? Do we have an agreed design for the space station?
Nazi Weaponized Virus
01-08-2004, 22:03
Design isn't finished yet - when it is we will agree on an orbit point and other technical details. Then the actual missions will start - I estimate 10-12 NS Years before it is done. Then we can move onto ISEC's moon base - thought that will be a real challenge.

Also my AG-1's are completely finished now, they have had the new MX-240's (Ionization engine) fitted, and thus, on average, it can now run at Mach 95 for a sustained period of 2 Months at this speed until The PSU needs refitting and the Ionization Chamber needs to be cleaned out.
Cullenus
01-08-2004, 22:28
Matthew Gator, Kingdom of Cullenus ambassador for ISEC
At the Forum, Universum Forum

I would like to officially bring to the discussion the basic details of the space station.

I. What facilities should it contain?
---a) testing
---b) living
---c) maintenance
---d) power
---e) other
II. What abilities should it have?
---a) defensive
---b) artificial living
---c) constructing
---d) other
III. How many people does it need?
---a) maintenance
---b) scientists
---c) other

I would just like to jumpstart the planning of the space station. Please bring any comments and/or information to the discussion. Thank you.
Nazi Weaponized Virus
01-08-2004, 22:30
Don't worry Cuellenus - all your concerns will be addressed soon enough.

And the points you made within your post (Numerical Points) will also be addressed on a point by point basis.
Catabaronia
01-08-2004, 22:52
I'm interested.
My nation is a young nation.
Whato you need?
Helveticuz
01-08-2004, 23:40
Great news to hear the AG-1 is completed! We should produce one for each nation in ISEC, ofcourse for a little fee to keep Universum Forum up running. Regarding the budget stuff, anyone interested in controlling that?
My job is to get nations in to ISEC, and announce news via the first post, and ofcourse, to organize ISEC.
NWV's job, seems to be, is to bring many new interesting projects all the time. (not meant in any bad ways, we always have somehing to do :) ).
And cullenus, you are now official Map and design manager. Start sketching on the spacestation, and what happened to that Universum Forum map?
Btw, very nice job, everyone!

To Catabaronia: You are as welcome as anyone else. Size means nothing, enthusiasm and initiative means everything. Have you read the rules? If so, good. Are you ready to fund every project in ISEC? It's not much money, since everyone in ISEC pays their part. First of all, your gonna need a ship. If you don't already have one, usually smaller nations don't, you can borrow one of ISEC's X-20 ships or you could buy one AG-1 VentureStar.

And now for the RULES updates: If a nation decides to buy the AG-1 VentureStar, they must return it to ISEC if they leave or is cancelled from the program. This rule would prevent nations from joining ISEC and then buy the AG-1 cheaper than on the market, and then leave the program with a new ship in their hands. What do you think? I need your opinions to make this a democratic organisation.
Nazi Weaponized Virus
01-08-2004, 23:56
Good points.

However I'm postponing the launch of the mirror of the satellite. The ZX1 Ionization Engines will be ready in around 8 NS Months (Smaller, Lighter Ionization Engine - this efficency = higher speeds) - this startling new development was the main factor in forcing us to postpone the launch of the AG-1 in 6 NS Months.

When all 3 NWV's AG-1's are refitted to exact specifications - and new tests are run, we will then be able to launch the first stage of the satellite in 10 NS Months, and the 2nd Stage in about a year.

ZX1 Ionization Engine: NWV Designs
From the preivously, slightly updated MX420 comes the ZX1 - the first real revolution in Ionization Propulsion in over 4 Years.

The ZX1, obviously works on the same basic theory, but has increased efficiency in terms of longetivity of Ionization PSU's effectiveness (A new PSU - which can last for 6 Months running at full speeds), as well as a more refined labarotory grade Caesium gas - which is more effective in the Ionization process by about 31%. The ZX1 also offers increased thrust capabilities due to optimisation of The Chamber itself (The Chamber is now much lighter - and Ionizes the atoms 3 time more quickly than the MX420.

In conclusion this will mean from max Mach. 100, the ZX1 will, because of the optimisation and overhaul of the original engines, increase this speed to Mach. 186 (210,000,000km/h - could reach the moon in 1 1/2 hours). It was believed that with extra funding and an extra year, this could have been increased to Mach. 180 but this would require an overhaul of the AG-1 itself. In addition the 4 ZX1's allow for an increase of 79% in terms of thrust.

Thirty-Two ZX1's will be sent to Helveticuz when they are complete in 6 NS Months.
Helveticuz
02-08-2004, 00:07
Good points.

However I'm postponing the launch of the mirror of the satellite. The ZX1 Ionization Engines will be ready in around 8 NS Months (Smaller, Lighter Ionization Engine - this efficency = higher speeds) - this startling new development was the main factor in forcing us to postpone the launch of the AG-1 in 6 NS Months.

When all 3 NWV's AG-1's are refitted to exact specifications - and new tests are run, we will then be able to launch the first stage of the satellite in 10 NS Months, and the 2nd Stage in about a year.

ZX1 Ionization Engine: NWV Designs
From the preivously, slightly updated MX420 comes the ZX1 - the first real revolution in Ionization Propulsion in over 4 Years.

The ZX1, obviously works on the same basic theory, but has increased efficiency in terms of longetivity of Ionization PSU's effectiveness (A new PSU - which can last for 6 Months running at full speeds), as well as a more refined labarotory grade Caesium gas - which is more effective in the Ionization process by about 31%. The ZX1 also offers increased thrust capabilities due to optimisation of The Chamber itself (The Chamber is now much lighter - and Ionizes the atoms 3 time more quickly than the MX420.

In conclusion this will mean from max Mach. 95, the ZX1 will, because of the optimisation and overhaul of the original engines, increase this speed to Mach. 150. It was believed that with extra funding and an extra year, this could have been increased to Mach. 180 but this would require an overhaul of the AG-1 itself. In addition the 4 ZX1's allow for an increase of 79% in terms of thrust.

Thirty-Two ZX1's will be sent to Helveticuz when they are complete in 6 NS Months.The 32 engines will be directly moved to the factory storage section. 6 NS months is not much at all, we are very pleased with your work NWV.
Nazi Weaponized Virus
02-08-2004, 00:12
Thanks, although that will be the last engine improvement before we start early planning of the AG-2.
Cullenus
02-08-2004, 00:54
Great news to hear the AG-1 is completed! We should produce one for each nation in ISEC, ofcourse for a little fee to keep Universum Forum up running. Regarding the budget stuff, anyone interested in controlling that?
My job is to get nations in to ISEC, and announce news via the first post, and ofcourse, to organize ISEC.
NWV's job, seems to be, is to bring many new interesting projects all the time. (not meant in any bad ways, we always have somehing to do :) ).
And cullenus, you are now official Map and design manager. Start sketching on the spacestation, and what happened to that Universum Forum map?
Btw, very nice job, everyone!

To Catabaronia: You are as welcome as anyone else. Size means nothing, enthusiasm and initiative means everything. Have you read the rules? If so, good. Are you ready to fund every project in ISEC? It's not much money, since everyone in ISEC pays their part. First of all, your gonna need a ship. If you don't already have one, usually smaller nations don't, you can borrow one of ISEC's X-20 ships or you could buy one AG-1 VentureStar.

And now for the RULES updates: If a nation decides to buy the AG-1 VentureStar, they must return it to ISEC if they leave or is cancelled from the program. This rule would prevent nations from joining ISEC and then buy the AG-1 cheaper than on the market, and then leave the program with a new ship in their hands. What do you think? I need your opinions to make this a democratic organisation.

ooc: Sorry, I forgot about the map when I was half-way through with it, lol.

On this map I took away my blueprint theme and made it an official map. Blueprinting implies it is a plan rather than an actual thing.

NEW MAP: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/MatthewCH/NationStates/ISECBASEMAP.gif
Universum Forum

I would like to start sketching the new space station plans, but first I would need to know any exterior designs that should be included.

I also agree with the return policy of ISEC space ships, however with one little tweak. When a nation leaves, it may choose to either return the ship or pay, in addition to their first cheap payment, the full market price of the ship.

Thanks
Nazi Weaponized Virus
02-08-2004, 01:32
Great map - Also I dont agree with the charging for ships at all. I believe our budget could cope with allowing up to 8 nations own at least 1 ship, and then return it if they leave.
Balrogga
02-08-2004, 09:59
I agree with the map. I think it looks great.
Falangist Reich
02-08-2004, 10:16
The Falangist Reich is very interested in joining. We have recently completed building 5 fusion-powered space ships and are planning to put a permanent station into orbit. We also have a network of various satellites.

The chancellor of the Reich:General Otto von Mueller
Minister of Defence and Chief of Staff of the Armed Forces:General Fritz von Mueller(reich's space program is under military)
General Darren Winslow, Commanding Officer, Joint Space Command
Nazi Weaponized Virus
02-08-2004, 10:41
I'm interested in hearing more about your fusion powered technology. How do you descale you fusion reactors to fit them in the ship?

We currently use the AG-1 which will soon be equipped with 4 ZX1 Ion Propulsion Drives. This will help it attain speeds of around 210,000kmp/h - so when you join up, will you use that as your default ship?
Helveticuz
02-08-2004, 10:42
Yes, the map is amazing! Perfect!
I will then update the rules section, and insert the new rule.
To Falangist Reich: Yes, you are welcome. But you are aware of thgat this is a peaceful program and no weapons are allowed? I'm wondering this since your army is contolling your space agency. Regarding your spacestation, we are also building one. Have you come far in development of yours?
Nazi Weaponized Virus
02-08-2004, 10:52
Aren't we still in the design and planning stages of ISEC Earth Station
Falangist Reich
02-08-2004, 10:55
To Helveticruz:Yes we do have weapons, but our weapons-related programs are outside this program.
Nazi Weaponized Virus
02-08-2004, 11:02
But then you would have a vested interest in trying to push the case for a weapons programme to ISEC.


F-NEWS Falange City.

"Today Mininistry of Technology and Ministry of National Security announced a joint plan to develop a space program. Minister of technology said that the first phase of the plan is to develop a multiple-use space vehicle. The ministry is considering to develop an own system or to buy one from abroad. Ministry of Technology said that they are working on a system of positioning satellites for military and civilian purposes. Ministry hopes that within few years the Reich will be able to put a space station into orbit. Unnamed sources inside the ministry said that they are planning to develop orbital weapon systems but such comments have not been denied nor confirmed by the Ministry. Stay tuned for further news"

This poses many questions.
JODANASTAN
02-08-2004, 11:06
While Jodanastan is but a small nation we posess a wealth of knowledge which you may find valuable to the program. Our Arms industry is mature and we now wish to move from that agressive trade to a united and peaceful endeavour. The Jodanastan Captains of Industry are wiling to devote their time, creativity and positive energies to assist wherever possible to make your exploration a sucess. Our factories are ready to switch to full production of Spacecraft or associated requirements at your call.
Helveticuz
02-08-2004, 14:38
Aren't we still in the design and planning stages of ISEC Earth StationYes, but that doesn't mean we're not building it. Or something..i dunno. I'm really tired now. Have only slept 2 hours this night.
And Falangist Reich, NO weapons, under any circumstances, are allowed! it's as simple as it gets! If we see you monting weapons on any of your ships in Universum Forum you will be cancelled at once. Understand? it is ok to produce orbital weapons OUTSIDE the ISEC program, within your own borders and under your own name.

JODANISTAN: So, you wanted to join the ISEC or just give support? If you choose support we have an organisation named IECAG (ISEC Aid Group). See more information in the first post.

And regarding the proposed Lunar Base project: If we decide to build the base, we could place a huge radio dish ontop of if. If we do that, we donät get any noise from earth transmittors or satellites.
Something like this: http://upl.silentwhisper.net/uplfolders/upload0/Lunar_Base.bmp
Nazi Weaponized Virus
02-08-2004, 15:02
Current Projects:

- Deep Space Telescope, expected completion 10 NS Months.

- ISEC Earth Base Space Station, expected completion 8 NS Years.

- Probe to Mars, expected completion 2 NS Years.

- Internal Probe for the AG-1, expected completion 1 1/2 NS Years.

- Moon Base, expected completion 13 NS Years.

- Mars Mission, expected completion 13 NS Years.

- Probe to Mercury, expected completion 3 NS Years.

Budget:

Available Expenditure:

$231 Billion per/annum

Treasury Funds:

$179 Billion

Allocation:

Probes = $13 Billion

* Mars - $6 Billion
* Mercury - $3 Billion
* Sun Monitoring Probe - $4 Billion

Universum Forum = $4 Billion

* Upkeep - $1 Billion
* Development of New Buildings/Launch Pads - $3 Billion

Planning (Projects e.t.c.) = $51 Billion

* ISEC Moon Base - $14 Billion
* ISEC Mars Mission - $30 Billion
* ISEC Jupiter Mission - $7 Billion

Development (Building of projects) = $120 Billion

* ISEC Space Station - $91 Billion
* ISEC DST (Deep Space Telescope) -$14 Billion
* GH-14 Deep Space Probes - $5 Billion

Research = $81 Billion

* ZX1 Ion Propulsion - $40 Billion
* AG-1 Probes - $13 Billion
* New Materials - $14 Billion
* New Craft - $14 Billion

Spacecraft Upkeep = $900 Million

* AG-1 - $700 Million
* Misc. - $200 Million

Expenditure:

$222 Billion

Surplus:

$9 Billion

Team:

Director General:
Helveticuz

Research and Planning Director:
Nazi Weaponized Virus

Design Director:
Cullenus

Finance Director:
*Vacant*

OOC: Is that ok Helveticuz?
Helveticuz
02-08-2004, 15:27
Perfect! Very nice work! I will update the first post with this new information...i will also start a webaccount, and try to manage the site as good as i can. As said before i don't have much time infront of the computer.
If it's not someone who is interested in making a website for us? Any of our members or an outsider, doesn't matter.

Contact me, Helveticuz if you are interested! It will mean alot to ISEC and it's future!
Balrogga
02-08-2004, 15:35
I will also provide power to the moon base if it is needed, all free as before.
Helveticuz
02-08-2004, 15:52
I will also provide power to the moon base if it is needed, all free as before.That's great! We thank you once again.
Helveticuz
02-08-2004, 18:00
Bump
Cullenus
02-08-2004, 22:24
Awesome work NWV! And Balrogga, that's perfect. Will it be another microwave dish?
Cullenus
02-08-2004, 23:31
I was just wondering. This is just a random idea, but do any of yall want to make an ISEC region? My current region sucks so i plan on moving... thats where i got this idea..... but we dont have to if yall are happy with yalls current regions. It's just an idea.
Nazi Weaponized Virus
03-08-2004, 01:05
I also ask that other members of ISEC help me in trying to make 2 AG-1 Compatible probes.

These 2 probes are supposed to be fitted to small areas in the right and left undercarriage and can be deployed along the way to a mission - for example - the most daring mission (The Manned Jupiter Flight) - during this we could drop probes off around Mars and Jupiters moons.
Cullenus
03-08-2004, 03:37
Cullenus scientists have created a probe design that could be attached to the hull of the AG-1 and possibly other spacecraft. The SP-01 probe is powered by a rechargeable battery. The battery can be recharged by either of two methods: solar light or microwave beam (incorporating the technology used to power Universum Forum).

Specifications
Sensor probe
Range: 200,000km
Max. speed: 0.2c

Blueprint: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/MatthewCH/NationStates/sensorprobeBP.gif
Falangist Reich
03-08-2004, 10:09
*General Winslow was bit bored as he didn't like to explain same thing for three times. He replied:"Yes, we have space-based weapons. But they are under SEPARATE program and have no connection with this venture. Understand?"
IIRRAAQQII
03-08-2004, 10:17
My nation is extremely interested in this space program. I'll need to be trained for space and i will need to borrow an X20 for the mean time. The ambassador will be Dr. Franco Perelli. He is very excited about this prosperous relationship ahead.
Balrogga
03-08-2004, 10:18
I will continue to power all bases of the space program. I have placed a secondary dispersal satelite in lunar polar stationary orbit and will place the required relay satelites and the receiving dish once it is needed at the lunar base. The static charge from the power reception should repel the lunar dust so we will not have to worry about that type of interference.
Helveticuz
03-08-2004, 10:31
My nation is extremely interested in this space program. I'll need to be trained for space and i will need to borrow an X20 for the mean time. The ambassador will be Dr. Franco Perelli. He is very excited about this prosperous relationship ahead.You are very welcome, and as soon as your teams reach Universum Forum i'll have 1 X20 ready for you.

Cullenus: Yeah, i like the idea. What do you other nations of ISECD think about starting a region?

Falangist Reich: Yes, we understand. We were just making clear that IF you have weapons you will be cancelled at once. Anyway, you are welcome into ISEC.

And to all ISEC members, keep up the good work!
IIRRAAQQII
03-08-2004, 10:41
We are standing by with twelve of IIRRAAQQII's more ethusiastic scientists for this trip. We also have available eight astronauts to wrap up this package to make history in my country.
Simianonia
03-08-2004, 12:07
Simianonia's space programme currently consists of a large catapult and some monkeys
Nazi Weaponized Virus
03-08-2004, 12:17
Cullenus scientists have created a probe design that could be attached to the hull of the AG-1 and possibly other spacecraft. The SP-01 probe is powered by a rechargeable battery. The battery can be recharged by either of two methods: solar light or microwave beam (incorporating the technology used to power Universum Forum).

Specifications
Sensor probe
Range: 200,000km
Max. speed: 0.2c

Blueprint: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/MatthewCH/NationStates/sensorprobeBP.gif

NWV congratulate Cullenus.

Government statement to Cullenus:
You've done it again! :)
Nazi Weaponized Virus
03-08-2004, 12:35
Universum Forum Launch Site:
Mission: First manned Flight of ISEC, positioning of the 1st part of the DST, The Berylliun Reflector
The first mission of ISEC launched today from the massive 'Universum Forum' Space Complex, with the newly updated AG-1 with its ZX1 Ion Propulsion Drives, blasting off out of the atmosphere at approximately 12:22 PM. The Reflector inside the AG-1 which is awaiting deployment just outside of the moons orbit is capable of viewing distant planets like never before and is the first mission of ISEC.

Planned nearly 3 NS Years ago the DST will be complete within 6 NS Months, and will be a massive step forward before starting work on ISEC Earth Station and manned missions to The Moon, Mars and finally Jupiter.

The launch went perfectly well and the cheers from the Universum Forum's Launch Centre could be heard everywhere around the Complex. Many citizens of Helveticuz came to watch the launch of one of the greatest Space Programmes the World will ever see.

The AG-1 is currently running at 208,000km/ph and will reach its designated drop off point for the new telescope in approximately 6 NS Hours, it will bypass the moon in approximately 1 NS Hour, being the fastest thing man has ever conceived.

Mission Control at ISEC was unavaliable for comment as they are working hard to ensure everything goes to plan. A side mission of the AG-1, just announced a week ago will be the 'dropping off' on 2 of its Internal Probes that it will carry for every mission. The Cullenus designed SP-01's will be launched into moon orbit in just under 1 NS Hour and will scan the moons surface using a variety of sensors, perhaps as the first precursor to the much fabled 'Moon Base.'

We will keep you updated on the fascinating story.

AG-1's time of Launch: 12.22PM.

Time since Launch: 5 Minutes.

Distance travelled: 16,000 Kilometres.

Time until Moon: 1 Hour 17 Minutes (1 Hour 22 Minutes in Total).

Time until Designated point: 6 Hours 47 Minutes (6 Hours 52 Minutes).
Helveticuz
03-08-2004, 17:59
Universum Forum Launch Site:
Mission: First manned Flight of ISEC, positioning of the 1st part of the DST, The Berylliun Reflector
The first mission of ISEC launched today from the massive 'Universum Forum' Space Complex, with the newly updated AG-1 with its ZX1 Ion Propulsion Drives, blasting off out of the atmosphere at approximately 12:22 PM. The Reflector inside the AG-1 which is awaiting deployment just outside of the moons orbit is capable of viewing distant planets like never before and is the first mission of ISEC.

Planned nearly 3 NS Years ago the DST will be complete within 6 NS Months, and will be a massive step forward before starting work on ISEC Earth Station and manned missions to The Moon, Mars and finally Jupiter.

The launch went perfectly well and the cheers from the Universum Forum's Launch Centre could be heard everywhere around the Complex. Many citizens of Helveticuz came to watch the launch of one of the greatest Space Programmes the World will ever see.

The AG-1 is currently running at 208,000km/ph and will reach its designated drop off point for the new telescope in approximately 6 NS Hours, it will bypass the moon in approximately 1 NS Hour, being the fastest thing man has ever conceived.

Mission Control at ISEC was unavaliable for comment as they are working hard to ensure everything goes to plan. A side mission of the AG-1, just announced a week ago will be the 'dropping off' on 2 of its Internal Probes that it will carry for every mission. The Cullenus designed SP-01's will be launched into moon orbit in just under 1 NS Hour and will scan the moons surface using a variety of sensors, perhaps as the first precursor to the much fabled 'Moon Base.'

We will keep you updated on the fascinating story.

AG-1's time of Launch: 12.22PM.

Time since Launch: 5 Minutes.

Distance travelled: 16,000 Kilometres.

Time until Moon: 1 Hour 17 Minutes (1 Hour 22 Minutes in Total).

Time until Designated point: 6 Hours 47 Minutes (6 Hours 52 Minutes).
"A wonderful sight. The most amazing thing that ever happend to me.." Yuri Latjevskij said - The builder of Universum Forum and Helvetian State of Aerospace. "This is the first step, now we are ready to take another one. With this DST soon to be finished, AG-1 in buisiness, ISEC will be in the top league of space agency's" he said with tears in his eyes.

The Helvetian Emperor, John Mordum III, also visited Universum Forum.
"Truly amazing...I never thought space faring would be so....powerful. The Helvetian government supports ISEC 100% and will never back down."
He, and thousands of other Helvetians, NWV's and Cullenusian citizens, saw the first manned flight of ISEC. It was a true moment of power, peace and unity between nations.
Jeremy Mecka - CNNH News.
Cullenus
04-08-2004, 03:13
ok im gonna give this thing a little shove.... BUMP!
Nazi Weaponized Virus
04-08-2004, 06:57
"The AG-1 Carrying the Berrylium reflector that was dropped off at the designated point returned home yesterday just 12 Hours after it took off. The AG-1 managed to cover 3 Million Kilometers in this time and passed the moon in just 1 Hour and 16 Minutes. The mission itself was, according to a spokesman for ISEC "A complete and utter success." It appears that both Satellites were dropped off in thier correct orbit around the moon and now Mission Control is monitoring them, and that the selected orbit of 1.5 Million KM for the DST (Deep Space Telescope) was designated perfectly by The AG-1's sensors.

The Berrylium reflector is now in place and we only have to wait another 2 NS Months until the 2nd and final mission is launched, and ISEC have thier first real success in the field of Space Exploration.

The AG-1's triumphant return, 12 hours after lift off was described by one scientist as 'unbelievable' he said that we can now 'dare to dream about to possibility of missions to as far as Saturn.' The AG-1 itself touched down at runway 3 of the Universum Forum to tomultous applause. Where it taxied into the Underground hanger just 5000 yards from the runway."
Dublin Commune
04-08-2004, 20:43
Well done NWV with the AG-1. Can it make a manned mission to Mars? This would be a great advance for alll mankind. I think ISEC should pool its resources to make this mission a success. I have a probe in orbit around Mars and another one on its way to the surface. These can beem back useful information for the mission.

I'm not suggestting that we start right away but a manned mission to Mars should be a long term goal.
Helveticuz
04-08-2004, 22:00
Well done NWV with the AG-1. Can it make a manned mission to Mars? This would be a great advance for alll mankind. I think ISEC should pool its resources to make this mission a success. I have a probe in orbit around Mars and another one on its way to the surface. These can beem back useful information for the mission.

I'm not suggestting that we start right away but a manned mission to Mars should be a long term goal.Yes, it is a long term goal. But we're finishing the DST and the lunar base before the mars project.
Btw, anyone who can come up with a good name for the lunar base?

And also: The scientist group of Old Banezium (an old nation wich Helveticuz conquered) have developed a new design for the AG-1, and the coming AG-2. This new ship design will reduce the air-resistance with 46% when launching into space. It can also carry up to 20% more than the VentureStar design.
They call it 'Project Phoenix', after their old capitol.

Phoenix AG-1/2: http://www.axeman3d.com/thumbnails/x33.jpg
Cullenus
05-08-2004, 00:59
...So anybody up for the creation of an ISEC region? Because i am seriously ready to move..
Balrogga
05-08-2004, 12:21
Nice vessel
Helveticuz
05-08-2004, 14:18
...So anybody up for the creation of an ISEC region? Because i am seriously ready to move..Yeah i'm in. And btw, the website is nearly finished.
Balrogga
05-08-2004, 15:40
Cool, I can't wait to see it.
Helveticuz
05-08-2004, 21:37
Bump
Helveticuz
06-08-2004, 10:41
Updated. (bump)
Helveticuz
07-08-2004, 18:52
Bump
Helveticuz
07-08-2004, 19:34
This is a preview of the coming website: Any comments? post 'em here.
personally, i'd like to put more time into a website, but time is something i don't have. In a near future, maybe i can upgrade this to a flash site,THAT would be nice. Anyway, hope ya like this one.

Note: The logo is not correct. As we didn't get enough votes for the logo election, i've just put a simple one there. Temporarily.

http://upl.silentwhisper.net/uplfolders/upload0/ISEC_kopiera.jpg
Nazi Weaponized Virus
07-08-2004, 23:58
NWV International Development Ministry Statement:

Within schedule to the nth degree, the AG-1 carrying the 'Pod' part of the DST that fits onto the Berylium reflector arrived back in Earth 13 Hours after it had left for a massive orbit of 1.5 million KM. The Berlyium reflector took some time to be fixed onto the Pod, but thanks to the work of our Cosmonauts, this is now done. ISEC should now be recieving the full picture that this DST is projecting, Pelleted Radio Waves should arrive from the orbit point of the DST to The Universum Forum within 9 minutes of thier being sent.

The DST has small thrusters (4) attached to its undercarriage so it can adjust itself to face new angles. If a live stream of the DST itself is wanted, an uplink can be arranged at Universum Forum by sending the pelleted radio waves and establishing a direct constant link.

This is our first success, but not our last.

OOC: Great site.
Cullenus
08-08-2004, 04:26
The site is pretty good. Nice job. So... who's up for starting a region? Because I am ready to move.
Sudaea
08-08-2004, 04:56
The Republic of Sudaea wishes to further its space exploration program and wishes to sign up.
-Director of the Sudaean Interstellar Exploration Agency SIEA
Helveticuz
08-08-2004, 11:38
NWV, a live steam uplink would be perfect. And regarding the region, cullenus, Yeah i'm ready to move.

Sandaea: Yes yoiu are very welcome into the ISEC. Do you wish to purchase the ISEC AG-1 ship for a minimal price? If so, it will be ready in the hangar slot (no. 145) at the time your teams arrive at the Universum Forum.
Any questions about the AG-1? Ask Nazi Weaponized Virus, the creator of the ship. Hope you will have a good time!

OOC: Thank you every1. I will try to get the site up as soon as possible.
Balrogga
08-08-2004, 16:01
Power System completed for proposed Lunar Base. Componants have been placed into position and all tests indicate it is ready for operation. I repeat, all links are active and all componants are installed. Power is being supplied to ground collection unit awaiting the Lunar Construction crew.
Cullenus
08-08-2004, 19:12
ISEC Region created! Please TG me for the password. Region name... "ISEC Region"
Cullenus
09-08-2004, 04:13
Bump
Helveticuz
09-08-2004, 15:38
Updated!
Helveticuz
10-08-2004, 22:35
OOC: Okey...here's a new one. Worse or better than the other one?

http://upl.silentwhisper.net/uplfolders/upload0/ISEC_new.jpg

Be honest! :D
Cullenus
10-08-2004, 22:55
Well, i switched back and forth between the two designs... I like the shortness of the first one... but the top part of the second...
Helveticuz
11-08-2004, 00:14
Mhm. I'll try to fix that then ;) As soon as i get the layout finished i can put it up on the internet. And then, i will start to put in all infromation and that stuff. So it's gonan take aprox. half a month. Anyway, the thread has been kinda dead lately, c'mon people!

And to all of you who hasn't joined or been infromed about he ISEC Region, well...it does exist a ISEC Region out there. And if you are interested in joining it, contact Cullenus!

Once again, thanks to everyone who has joined and given support to the ISEC.
Cullenus
11-08-2004, 00:35
I could contact all the people on the member list and inform them about the ISEC Region.
Siesatia
11-08-2004, 02:12
~I don't know if you have a security detail, but I suggest implementing one, Siesatia would, of cource, love to allow a small group of our security officers to help, maybe some from all the countries? Being an orginization concerning this kind of progress, it makes us targets for terrorist attacks, or hostile takeovers. It would also stop vandilism. We would be willing to loan two Raptor P3X 20's to any country who wishes to contribute a force, these would be equiped with quarintine fields, which project a force field to surround an object, the perfect non lethal capture device.
~I have three outdated shuttles that I won in a gamble with another country, I would like to donate these, otherwise they will just sit and rust, as I have no use of them.
(OOC: Sorry Im not so active, RL has caught up with me.)
Helveticuz
11-08-2004, 21:00
~I don't know if you have a security detail, but I suggest implementing one, Siesatia would, of cource, love to allow a small group of our security officers to help, maybe some from all the countries? Being an orginization concerning this kind of progress, it makes us targets for terrorist attacks, or hostile takeovers. It would also stop vandilism. We would be willing to loan two Raptor P3X 20's to any country who wishes to contribute a force, these would be equiped with quarintine fields, which project a force field to surround an object, the perfect non lethal capture device.
~I have three outdated shuttles that I won in a gamble with another country, I would like to donate these, otherwise they will just sit and rust, as I have no use of them.
(OOC: Sorry Im not so active, RL has caught up with me.)
Nice idea, indeed. What do you other members of ISEC say about this suggestion?

Thanks for the donation.
OOC: Np m8, RL is far more important than this ;)
Slagshta
12-08-2004, 03:20
-Helveticuz

(The financial information enclosed within this document is top-secret. Anyone who publically exploits this information will be prosecuted)

For years the Confederacy of Slagshta has researched numerous space exploration programs. The government of Slagshta suffered a huge economic crash 7 years ago after investing in a bogus space exploration progam. After spending a series of years rebuilding and transforming the economy we decided to look in on this project. After carefully verifying the authority of this program, our government has decided that this organization is the key to the Nation of Slagshta.

We are very much interested in investing billions perhaps trillionis of yenzays (¥Z*1.34=$1USA) into such an accomplished coalition. Last year the Confederacy of Slagshta poured nearly ¥Z*720,000,000,000.00 into the establishment of 3 spacecraft factories and nearly twice that amount in space research. With Slagshta having such a booming economy, the cost of funding is still at a steady rise with no hurt to the people or products of Slagshta. The space research has been ultimatley benefitial, but we know that joining this coalition will only do so much better compared to what the current program currently is doing.

So, we the Government of The Confederacy of Slagshta are proposing to join the International Space Exploration Coalition. Please respond soon. As soon as you do respond, and if you accept our nation into this organization we will send our support and research analysist immediatley to the labratories. The scientist of Slagshta are highly educated, group oriented, and are on standby to provide any services and studies required to make this organization even stronger. Pending the acceptance, Slagshta will also provide a list of space vechicles, proto-types, and ideas that it currently has.


Thank you very much for your time. Slagshta is ready to serve the nations in ISEC.


Signed-

Prof. Abasha Waleb-Amish
Ambassador of the Accosiation of Slagshta Space Studies
Nazi Weaponized Virus
12-08-2004, 03:21
Nice idea, indeed. What do you other members of ISEC say about this suggestion?

Yeh, sounds acceptable.
Cullenus
12-08-2004, 03:22
I agree... it sounds good.
Cullenus
12-08-2004, 03:27
Slagshta, out of pure curiosity, what current projects has your own space program been working on or what space vehicles do you have?

The Kingdom of Cullenus
Matthew Gator

ooc: btw its not my position to accept you, you would have to wait for Helveticuz on that.
Slagshta
12-08-2004, 03:37
Slagshta, out of pure curiosity, what current projects has your own space program been working on or what space vehicles do you have?

The Kingdom of Cullenus
Matthew Gator

ooc: btw its not my position to accept you, you would have to wait for Helveticuz on that.

As I am still pending the acceptance to this coalition, I will not enclose any of my private information until I have been accepted --for security reasons of course.
Siesatia
12-08-2004, 04:01
Siesatia will commence patrols, We ask that a security station be built (Stocked with lethal and nonlethal weaps) , and new checkpoints and screening devices be installed. These we will of course provide, free of charge.

Security station specs:
24 hr Camera Monitering area (4 staff)
External Moitering (2 Staff) (Use of sattalites to watch the grounds)
Marine contingent (30 men)
Security patrols (Air) (6 craft = 4 each = 24 men)
Security Patrols (Ground) (15 men)
Screening guards (4 staff)
personal guards (Nations Discression, with a limit of 10)
Warhaven
12-08-2004, 04:39
The People of Warhaven wish to extend a hearty congratulations to the ISEC for going to outer space. As a space dwelling nation ourselves we promise not to fight with you unless you hit us first. We also wish to warn you away from deep space until you get more powerful as there are groups and Nations out there that would have no qualms about picking a fight with and destroying you. Nations, that Are far more advanced than you are. If you ever wish to trade with us, the peoples of Warhaven, then please contact the United Space Federation and we will talk.

King Warfare
Warhaven
12-08-2004, 04:56
OOC: I refer you to this thread...
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=346882&page=1
It lists each space nation and their territory, using it in character is a godmod, however, use it to find someplace empty you can claim as your own.
Helveticuz
12-08-2004, 14:20
Slagshta: Yes you are very welcome into the ISEC. We hope that you will have a nice stay, and share your wisdom with us. (OOC:That's alot of money for a july-nation).

Siesatia: You ahve permittion to build whatever is needed. We will send in 10 Security personell to guard the main entrance. They will be medium armed with light machineguns and submachineguns. Do you wish to take the place as Security Director in the ISEC high council?

Warhaven: Thank you for your warnings, but i think i (and the whole ISEC) can defend ourselfs pretty well.

And to all ISEC nations, please send some (max.10) soldiers or security personell to Universum Forum to attend the security station.

OOC: Wooho! Sweden has now officialy 9 million citizens today!! (yeh, i live there..)
Siesatia
12-08-2004, 14:43
Yes, I do accept the position of Security Director.

We have errected check points in all the enterences, including the public hangers and pads. The Dish, which is the most likely target, now has a nutrino fence around it, one touch, and your out cold for a week. Biometric Hand Scanners have been installed in all the labs and high profile areas. And Iris scanners in all security stations as well. Duel Refined Duterium-Uranium explosive Self destruct device.(The controls for this belong to the Heads of the organization and noone else, anyone caught trying to get it without their permission will be shot on sight.)

ooc-Remember its now been 1 NS year
Warhaven
12-08-2004, 15:51
I wish the ISEC good luck in its space exploration, if you ever need help just call...
Cullenus
12-08-2004, 16:33
The Kingdom of Cullenus applauds the decision for the security station and recognizes and welcomes Siesatia as the new Security Director. 10 Cullenus security gaurds have been sent in via helicopter. They should be arriving at Universum Forum soon.
Helveticuz
12-08-2004, 16:41
Helveticuz suggests a celebration party at Universum Forum since the ISEC is now one year old. We will launch three "Party rockets" (He065 - a large fireworks rocket) including the other massive fireworks.

OOC: I'll make another thread, so we can RP the party....this will be fun ;)
What do you say?
Siesatia
12-08-2004, 16:56
yay, a party!
Cullenus
12-08-2004, 18:30
yay, a party!

ditto!
Scimar
12-08-2004, 18:53
We have mostly finished our plans for our new ion drives, and have started construction of the first prototype. We are also working on our new hull design, and are working getting teh first design prototypes of teh main hull. All we have left to work on in teh main sensor system and the power supply , as well as teh control system.
Balrogga
12-08-2004, 23:05
The Empire of Balrogga would like to know if you would like us to send 10 Proteus Fighters and place the pilots and support crew upon permanent duty for the defence of the Universum Forum spaceport.

I know they are a bit advanced but this also allows me to be the only current ISEC Aid Group member. It would fall under Aid if you wish them to be posted to the Universum Forum spaceport.

If accepted, I will also offer 10 more for the proposed Lunar Base.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/beldragos/proteus1.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/beldragos/proteus2.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/beldragos/proteus11.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/beldragos/proteus5.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/beldragos/proteus6.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/beldragos/proteus3.jpg
Slagshta
12-08-2004, 23:44
Thank you for accepting the Condfederacy of Slagshta into ISEC. Following secruity requests, the Slagshtan army has sent 8 well trained soldiers to help out with the secruity of this base. Within this week, Slagshtan professors are scheduled to report.

Cullenus- I will send the research of Accosiation of Slagshta Space Studies (ASSS) within the next week. Please allow time for Slagshta to establish itself here.

Signed,

Prof. Abasha Waleb-Amish
Ambassador of the Association of Slagshta Space Studies
Democratic Colonies
13-08-2004, 23:56
The Federated Union of Democratic Colonies respectfully requests entry into the The International Space Exploration Coalition. Currently, the Democratic Colonies have a fairly weak space programme, but would like to assist in the exploration of the final frontier by assisting the ISEC in its efforts. Currently, the Democratic Colonies operates a network of intelligence gathering satellites, as well as weather, communications, and navigational satellites, all maintained and launched via single-use Titan IV rockets. Our manned space missions are few and far between, but we hope they will become more common if our application to the ISEC is accepted. The Colonial government is willing to contribute an annual amount of fifty billion dollars to ISEC, and is willing contribute more if needed. We believe that the exploration of space to be a noble and worthy cause, and have been looking for the best means to explore space for many years. It was during fighting alongside ISEC member Siesatia to evacuate non-Catholic refugees and defend the religous freedoms for the future of a people that we first heard of the ISEC, and from what else we've seen of this organization, it appears to be the way to explore space that we were hoping for. We are aware of the rules preventing the mounting of weapons onto any ISEC sold spacecraft, and will fully oblige by that any other rules that ISEC sees fit. Thank you for your time in considering our proposal.

OOC: I'm not sure if 50 Billion dollars is a good amount. Is that too big or too small? I'm a large nation, but I'm not sure what would be appropiate.
Siesatia
14-08-2004, 00:16
50 bil would fully finance alot of our devision. We could work on more projects. As a security check, DC's background is clear, he fights for human rights, and we hold his nation as a shining example of the human race.
Democratic Colonies
14-08-2004, 03:22
Thank you for the kind words Siesatia, but you deserve atleast as much credit as I do on the Cherry Ridge conflict. It was a team effort, and in the end, you're the one that finally was able to bring heavy bombing into action. It was, and continues to be a pleasure working with you. :)
Cullenus
14-08-2004, 07:51
Yes you are correct. We had outstanding teamwork in the Cherry Ridge conflict!... wait a sec.... I lossed.... lol. It was fun. I didnt really plan on winning or getting involved to the point that my own nation would be in danger. Just needed a good fight and RP.
Siesatia
14-08-2004, 19:40
Yep, I almost brought you down with an EMP pulse, bounced of of my shields. Well, at least I accepted your surrendur. LOL, there might have been a problem if I had gone after you.
Siesatia
15-08-2004, 17:30
BUMP :headbang:
Balrogga
15-08-2004, 17:41
The Empire of Balrogga would like to know if you would like us to send 10 Proteus Fighters and place the pilots and support crew upon permanent duty for the defence of the Universum Forum spaceport.

I know they are a bit advanced but this also allows me to be the only current ISEC Aid Group member. It would fall under Aid if you wish them to be posted to the Universum Forum spaceport.

If accepted, I will also offer 10 more for the proposed Lunar Base.


Has the group decided upon this offer?

I will construct my own facilities so they will not use any of your resources. Other nations that wish to contribute aircraft will have access to these facilities. They would be located where you wish to place them. I do not need a runway but others might so a single runway might be needed or they could use one of the landing strips.
Cullenus
15-08-2004, 17:45
Well I personally am all for it. I think it sounds like a great idea. What do the rest of you all think?
Siesatia
15-08-2004, 17:47
Siesatia would like to send some of its Raptor P3X 30's, as well, and our flagship, the super carrier, Freestar, also has an emergancy channel that will allow us to call for aid in the event of an attack. We are currently working on the Raptor P3X 40 series, and expect to be completed by the next year.
Balrogga
15-08-2004, 17:48
Good, it will be easier to function as the ISEC Aid Group if I had vehicles on site to help in the defence.

If the others agree then the air support facilities (runway, hanger, and refueling area) could be constructed as soon as I get the go-ahead.
Siesatia
15-08-2004, 18:02
the P3X20's are availiable for loan, but the P3X30's and P3X40's are and will not be availiable until the P3X50 series comes out.
EDIT: Oh, but the Raptor P3X10 series is for sale, as it holds none of our new technology.
Helveticuz
15-08-2004, 18:18
Sorry for inactivity, but i ahve to be gone for another week. Therefor, Cullenus now has the power to accept other nations into the ISEC (til i'm back...yeh i love power).
Siesatia
15-08-2004, 18:19
I suggest we build special runways, so if our fighters come in hot, it can withstand it. I also suggest a defence budget. In which, the Appropriations devision, the head of the committy, and the defence chairman should have princible say in what it is used for.
Slagshta
15-08-2004, 23:26
***Slagshta called all nation ISEC representatives to the wing auditorium at 12 o'clock.***

At 11:30 the seats in The ISEC Private Meeting Auditorium began to fill up. Professor Malik Chebaro (pronouced- Mah-leak) walked up to the podium, placed his briefcase on the counter and stared at the eager crowd of ISEC representatives. Professor Chebaro called his assistant, Dr. Wu over and spoke in his ear.
"Wu, please take attendence of this crowd and make sure all at least five representatives of each ISEC nation have arrived. Be sure to study each representative carefully to make sure they are interested in what we have to say. After all, nobody knows what this short term meeting is about."
Dr. Wu nodded his head and walked toward the crowd. The Professor stepped back beheind the curtains, and pulled a joint out of his shirt pocket. He smoked for about 15 minutes. He was about to make the speech of his life-- definatly a proposal to the nations of ISEC. The Professor clipped the end of his joint and put the remainder in his pocket for later use. He slipped a mint in his mouth and looked over his notes on his pocket pc. He scanned his document notes and then made a signal to the telepromper tech., to make sure the telepromper was set up properly. Dr. Wu returned with an eager grin.

"Sir, all representatives are present and accounted for."

"Good," replied the professor.

The crowd quieted down as Professor Malik Chebaro walked to the podium. He opened his iMac, hooked up a cable, loaded his notes, and gave a thumbs up to the teleprompter tech.

"Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen of ISEC. My name is Professor Malik Chebaro from the Confederacy of Slagshta. We have important research that we must share with our fellow nations. I see that most of you picked up a brouchre on your way in. This explains the afternoon agenda, and a brief history of the ASSS (Association of Slagshta Space Studies). As of last week, the ASSS has become in junction with that of ISEC. It is important that our research be presented for the best of ISEC. As of yesterday, we the people of ISEC had no plans for an ISEC orbiting Space Station until now. The Slagshtan Space Research Team presents figure A.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/Dsacks06/ISECSpaceStation.gif

This is the proposed ISEC Space Station. It is 5.24 miles long and fit to accomadate up to 50 nation research teams. As of right now, it has been divided up into 30 equal sections. Each section is for ISEC nations of course, and new sections can be easily attached. This space craft also meets the criteria of having spin technology. The entire station has been fitted for electricity, artifical gravity, pressure stabilizers, heating and cooling systems, etc... The sections are fully equipped with top of line appliances, as well as built in Apple technology. Every piece of furniture is state of the art and plasma HDTV technology can be found hanging on nearly every wall. There are a total of 500 apartment buildings per section. Each section will of course be integrated between nations, to allow for better group productivity--because of course, everyone here is a team." Professor stepped back as the group applauded briefly. He took a sip of cold water and continued. "Every thing is sattelite controlled and all appliances have digital backup. The ISEC Space Station has plans for numerous observatory study 'pentrooms.' Each section of this Station is equipped with a gym to keep us all in shape, and large botanical gardens to give us all a relaxed feeling. There is also a public tram that runs in any direction to transport large groups to any section of the Station. Each section is also equipped with 700 multi-sized space ship docking pads with tunnels all leading to artificial gravity rooms. The purpose of this Station is to study space while living in it at the same time. Up here in space, we will be able to send probes faster, make more accurate predictions, and even send scientists to virtually any part of the universe within our own means faster. It has taken Slagshta nearly 15 years to come to this technology and let me say this, we have reached it. The overall cost of this project is 4.2 Trillion USD. Being the sponsers of this project, Slagshta has donated 1 trillion to the cause. Pending acceptance of this project from Helveticuz, we ask that all 18 remaining nations pay 177.77 billion dollars for this cause. Since plans are already made, Slagshta has started this project already two years ago. We are currently 33% done and if you accept, we ask that you send 200 of your best engineers to The Confederacy of Slagshta to speed up the production process. With all of this extra help we expect to have this project completed within a year. Thank you for your time ladies and gentleman. Next up to speak is the head architect for this project Gary Puhblo! He will be explaining the structure of the ISEC Space Station and how it is designed to accomadate all of our scientific and living needs!
The crowd cheered. Professor Malik Chebaro stepped down from the podium, put his iMac in his suitcase and walked beheind the curtain. Several representatives shook his hand at once and commented on his proposal. Feeling happy and relieved, Professor Malik stepped outside. He took the joint from his pocket and lit is again. He looked up at the sky.

"One day we'll have a base up there," he said to himself. He had mixed feelings about how the crowd thought about his proposal. It was important that he found out immediatly if the other nations were interested in helping with the funds. After all, Slagshta had there portion of the craft built. Technically, he could just send his own people up there. The Professor shook his head. He had a follow up meeting the following day about how the members of ISEC liked his proposal. Prof. Malik threw his joint in the street and headed over to the ISEC apartment buildings....
Siesatia
15-08-2004, 23:34
OOC-Its Dr. Wu from jurassic Park. WOW, how'd you get him here. LMAO. sorry, but I literally memorised that book.
Nazi Weaponized Virus
15-08-2004, 23:37
The Government of NWV will divert RM|55,000,000,000 (Reichsmarks - Or $60,000,000,000) from The Government Treasury to this cause.
Siesatia
16-08-2004, 00:03
Our government is unable to donate that amount of money, most of our money is currently being devoted to ship production, mainly into our carrier devision.
Slagshta
16-08-2004, 03:27
Our government is unable to donate that amount of money, most of our money is currently being devoted to ship production, mainly into our carrier devision.


That is well understood.

Perhaps well work something out when you are back on your feet financially. I knew this was a bit costly and I doubted many nations would donate that amount to have an ISEC Space Station. Most likely, I will drop the project for now and allow smaller payments in sections so that we can get enough money. Like 20 payments of 8.9 Billion over time. That is probably the best way into the project. I highly doubt any over the nation's in ISEC can afford to make a single payment of 178 Billion. Oh well, we'll see.....
Slagshta
16-08-2004, 03:29
OOC-Its Dr. Wu from jurassic Park. WOW, how'd you get him here. LMAO. sorry, but I literally memorised that book.

Actually no, lol this Doctor Wu is a chink. And a very smart one at that. He is second in command after Professor Malik Chebaro. lol i didnt even think of jurasstic park but now memories come back!
Siesatia
16-08-2004, 03:50
yes... I know that book by heart. Carry a copy wherever I go LOL, I LOVE MY BOOK :fluffle:
Cullenus
16-08-2004, 04:10
The Kingdom of Cullenus looks towards the Confederacy of Slagshta's space station project with great enthusiasm. The plans are perfect. After briefing the king on the matter, Matthew Gator has been given the go ahead for a large contribution of money to this project. A check for $1,000,500,000,000.00 has been sent to the space station fund.
Slagshta
16-08-2004, 04:25
The Kingdom of Cullenus looks towards the Confederacy of Slagshta's space station project with great enthusiasm. The plans are perfect. After briefing the king on the matter, Matthew Gator has been given the go ahead for a large contribution of money to this project. A check for $1,000,500,000,000.00 has been sent to the space station fund.

Cullenus! You are very gracious indeed. you have dropped the contribution price to only $122.22 billion dollars per nation! You are now a sponser in this project.

NOTE TO ALL ISEC MEMBERS: WE NEED THE 200 ENGINEERS AS WELL PLS DONT FORGET...

King Legras II
Slagshta
16-08-2004, 04:27
The Government of NWV will divert RM|55,000,000,000 (Reichsmarks - Or $60,000,000,000) from The Government Treasury to this cause.


Great to hear from you! You have made your first payment of 60 billion. Please feel free to send the second one in at any time... Please also send some engineers to the Confederacy of Slagshta! Thanks!
Siesatia
16-08-2004, 04:42
We will send 400 engineers to make up for the money we don't have. If or course you accept them.
Balrogga
16-08-2004, 06:12
The ISEC Aid Group will contribute 180 Billion to this project. In addition we will also foot the bill for the construction of the flight facilities for the air defence of the Universum Forum.

The Flight Facilities should contain it's own runway situated so it will not interfere with the launches or landings of the spacecraft, refueling area, hangers, and repair bays. I am not sure if each nation would require their own seperate facilities but I feel the pilots should be quartered close to their planes in the event of a rapid take off.

All this should be under the control of Siesatia, the current Security Director.
Democratic Colonies
16-08-2004, 07:01
Pending our approval into ISEC, the Democratic Colonies pledges to contribute $250 Billion dollars to the program, as well as the services of a 200-person engineering team from the All Colonies University.
Nazi Weaponized Virus
16-08-2004, 17:47
Great to hear from you! You have made your first payment of 60 billion. Please feel free to send the second one in at any time... Please also send some engineers to the Confederacy of Slagshta! Thanks!

We currently have 400 Physicists and 350 Structural Engineers at Universum Forum. All will be placed at your disposal.
Slagshta
16-08-2004, 23:06
We will send 400 engineers to make up for the money we don't have. If or course you accept them.

Yes! The engineers will be instrumental in the construction of this project. To cover your payments, Slagshta will pay for your nation now and you can refund us back in the near future.

Thank you for your contribution.

- King Legras II -
Slagshta
16-08-2004, 23:07
The ISEC Aid Group will contribute 180 Billion to this project. In addition we will also foot the bill for the construction of the flight facilities for the air defence of the Universum Forum.

The Flight Facilities should contain it's own runway situated so it will not interfere with the launches or landings of the spacecraft, refueling area, hangers, and repair bays. I am not sure if each nation would require their own seperate facilities but I feel the pilots should be quartered close to their planes in the event of a rapid take off.

All this should be under the control of Siesatia, the current Security Director.

Your contrubiution has been logged. Thank you for your support in this project. We will get back to you later when the construction process progesses even more.

- King Legras II -
Slagshta
16-08-2004, 23:09
Pending our approval into ISEC, the Democratic Colonies pledges to contribute $250 Billion dollars to the program, as well as the services of a 200-person engineering team from the All Colonies University.


Thank you for making your closing payment. The rest of your contribution will be used for the station. Your engineers are welcome!

- King Legras II -
Slagshta
16-08-2004, 23:11
We currently have 400 Physicists and 350 Structural Engineers at Universum Forum. All will be placed at your disposal.

Thank you for your support. This is a big step in the completion process of this entire project. The more people you send, the faster the project gets completed!

- King Legras II -
Blind Nuerosis
16-08-2004, 23:20
I have recently been accepted to ISEC via telegram. Although I am not yet on the list, I will donate 1,000,000,000,000 to this project fund.

Emperor Benton
Nazi Weaponized Virus
16-08-2004, 23:21
I have recently been accepted to ISEC via telegram. Although I am not yet on the list, I will donate 1,000,000,000,000 to this project fund.

Emperor Benton

You don't have that much I'm afraid, though you can check out your economy using thirdgeek. That will show you your budget.
Slagshta
16-08-2004, 23:33
I have recently been accepted to ISEC via telegram. Although I am not yet on the list, I will donate 1,000,000,000,000 to this project fund.

Emperor Benton


Seeing as you are a new nation and that was your very first post I highly doubt you have even a fraction of that money on your spending budget. I looked up your economy record, and I must say it is decent for a nation that has been around for perhaps a week. Maybe when you obtain enough money, you can make a three payments 40 billion over a long period of time. Thanks for your genorosity though--it does show you have a level of concern for this project. Please send your architechs and engineers as well, because they are in need at this moment.

Thank you.

- King Legras II -
Blind Nuerosis
16-08-2004, 23:50
Seeing as you are a new nation and that was your very first post I highly doubt you have even a fraction of that money on your spending budget. I looked up your economy record, and I must say it is decent for a nation that has been around for perhaps a week. Maybe when you obtain enough money, you can make a three payments 40 billion over a long period of time. Thanks for your genorosity though--it does show you have a level of concern for this project. Please send your architechs and engineers as well, because they are in need at this moment.

Thank you.

- King Legras II -

Mr. Legras-I may be a young nation but financially I am very successful. My other nation collapsed sending multi-trillion dollar funds wired to my account. I am free to withdraw anytime. The engineers have been sent, and once again: ONE TRILLION DOLLARS HAS BEEN WIRED TO THE SPACE STATION ACCOUNT.

signed,
Emperor Benton
Slagshta
17-08-2004, 00:02
Mr. Legras-I may be a young nation but financially I am very successful. My other nation collapsed sending multi-trillion dollar funds wired to my account. I am free to withdraw anytime. The engineers have been sent, and once again: ONE TRILLION DOLLARS HAS BEEN WIRED TO THE SPACE STATION ACCOUNT.

signed,
Emperor Benton


Look man, first of all the "Mr. Legras" you are referring to happens to be quite an acclaimed king. That title is "king" not Mr. Anyways, I am very concerned with you donating such a large sum. You claim these funds to be left over from another nation. I am not interested in waving an ignore flag at you, but I will proceed with whatever is best. Please provide a URL to this transaction, or have 3 other nations from your previous region (before your other account supposeldy go deleted) confirm that your old nation was indeed, as financially successful as you say it is. If you cannot come up with any of this, I will be forced to ignore your post for a trillion dollars because that is fraud--no doubt about it. This rp game has to be somewhat realistic, and I hope you believe that as well. As for now I will accept your first of three payments of 40 million USD which I doubt you can afford that either.

Please come up with the following confirmation and post it on this forum. When I see it, I will accept your donation of one trillion dollars. Thank you for understanding...

- King Legras II -
Wolf America
17-08-2004, 00:16
The United States of Wolf America is very much interested in joining in space relations with Helveticuz. We will send a science team, 10 top pilots to be trained in to astronauts, 10 soldiers for security. My leader, Lord JWolf, will like to know how much a the AG-1 VentureStar cost. We can fund the ISEC Moon Base 14 billions. Plus two nation in this program are my alles.(Cullenus & Slagshta)


-Minister of Foreign Affairs
Jane Wastons
Balrogga
17-08-2004, 00:55
Your contrubiution has been logged. Thank you for your support in this project. We will get back to you later when the construction process progesses even more.

- King Legras II -

Thank you very much. Please inform me when I can send the Proteus Fighters.
Rinceweed
17-08-2004, 01:18
The nation of Rinceweed would like to help in any way we can. We already have nearly our entire population in orbit around the Earth, but we have never at any point shared research with others. We would like to send a small team of 3 scientists to this space port of yours. If possible, we would like to send a single guard with them. I should warn, he would be given a small handgun, but with only a single clip. For ceremonial purposes you see.

Also, we would like to ask if any parts are needed? We have a few mothballed ships currently presiding in the Tantanis, a small orbital currently orbiting the moon. We only have 2 in close to working condition. We'll can fix them up within a ([OOC]:NS) day or so and send them down. The things aint much, but they might prove useful for transporting small satellites or parts from the surface to orbit and vice versa. You of course also have permission to take them apart for use in other ships. We only ask that if you accept them, you don't outfit them with weapons for security purposes without asking first. The things, as I said, are pretty old, and we'd need to make sure they're safe for modification first.

Lastly, we are willing to make a fairly large grant to this astounding project once we see what real results it can produce. Quite simply, if you can produce a craft that can EASILY get from Tantanis and back, we are more than willing to donate a near limitless amount of resources and personnel to this remarkable feat of ingenuity.

Would all this be acceptable?
Siesatia
17-08-2004, 01:34
We have found a way to pay off the debt for the space station, we will scrap three of our Paradoxx class small carriers, and sell the parts for 60 billion apiece. that would make 180 bil, and then we will donate 20 bil from our budget. Does this sound reasonable, the paradoxx class is going to fade from excistance soon, as our space navy is replacing them with Terran Class Carriers. We Would love to donate an unarmed, gutted, Mini-Paradoxx for cargo runs to the orbital station, after you are done with it, you may do with it what you wish. (The carrier would goto ISEC, not an individual.)
Slagshta
17-08-2004, 02:29
We have found a way to pay off the debt for the space station, we will scrap three of our Paradoxx class small carriers, and sell the parts for 60 billion apiece. that would make 180 bil, and then we will donate 20 bil from our budget. Does this sound reasonable, the paradoxx class is going to fade from excistance soon, as our space navy is replacing them with Terran Class Carriers. We Would love to donate an unarmed, gutted, Mini-Paradoxx for cargo runs to the orbital station, after you are done with it, you may do with it what you wish. (The carrier would goto ISEC, not an individual.)

Excellent! This is very great news. Thank you for finding a way to help fund the ISEC Space Station Project. Your deposits and close have been logged and your donations of space craft are more than accepted.

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