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((Still awaiting a damage report from Granzi))

Admiral Michaels was pacing pensively.
"What can we do to help our Hudecian allies? I need options. You said you'd get information on where this battle is. REPORT!!!"
"Yessir, Admiral Michaels Sir. It appears that the main fighting is near the city of Hami, in northern China. It's way out of the range of our guns and strike aircraft, sir. I don't think there's much we can do but wait."
"Dammit, Major, that's not what I wanted to hear! Tell the Hudecians that we will be continually sending them supplies as they are needed, ammo, rations, equipment, etc. It's the best we can do. If only they were closer to our tomahawks....."

OOC: oh.. Daylam... how many F-22s do you have in the area. I've posted in general my aircraft numbers... please do the same. (to a two or three significant digits would be nice)

IC:

Hudecian fighters, still having a fair hand in the air, focused a lot more on the attack aircraft and helicopters attacking their lines. In response to Daylami helicopters, Hudecian strike helicopters were called in response. Soon, the entire region would be ablaze both on the ground and above it.

The momentary lull was enough to reorganize the Hudecian defenders and begin movements of troops.

Fortunately that was not all that was accomplished. The 300 fighters that had been running a strike near Hami had returned and been rearmed and refueled during the lull. Now they engaged the Daylami fighters over the battlefield along with another 1000 other fighters in a hard fought battle for air superiority that was costing Daylam dearly.

Hudecian infantry had been (admittedly) hit hard. Fortunately, most of the artillery and armour's targets had been the tank traps and bomb traps in front of the troops at first. With all the destruction in front of the Hudecian troops, Daylam artillery would find it difficult to locate a target.

Pounding such a small region with heavy shells had another fortunate side effect for the Hudecian army. The ground in front of them was virtually impassable. Huge craters pocketed the land and any unexploded Hudecian trap bombs detonated leaving the landscape a mess. Men would have a hard time walking through the region, let alone mechanized vehicles.

General Chellis smiled. There was never any chance of a victory but now he had ensured an escape from this boundary. With the land so badly scarred he quickly had began withdrawing his troops.

Fortunately these units were the vets of the Drapol war. 10% casualties were considered light to these men. The reinforcements coming soon were not even close to being that dedicated, which bother Chellis... but only minimally.

OOC: I really need a response and casulty report from the Hebrews, I can't continue the ground war without it. If I don't get a response from the Hebrews I'm going to assume my bombardment broke the PoJ and CfI armies and declare victory...

Granzi, I could use a casulty report as well please.


Daylami Waters
Onboard the Indomitable Class Battleship the SRS BB-2A Celtic Fury

The Shinoxians had spent most of their day repairing, but no longer would they wait for the Granzian fleets to make the first move, the Shinoxian Fleets had been ordered to attack.

Supported with the addition of an African Armada, the Shinoxians stood ready to end the Granzian Naval effort once and for all.

This would be a strike from land and air.

On land, Shinoxian V5 Bad Neighbor missiles would start the attack with a massive bombardment. 25% of the V5 supply had been used in the bombardment of Hebrew forces a few nights ago, another 25% would be used tonight.

After the bombardment another prong would open up.

As many available fighters and bombers would take off from the six Shinoxian carriers, following up on the bombardment with an attack of their own.

Then the final attack would procede, the annhilation of Granzian fleets.

Instead of sitting back and bombarding, Celtic fleets would attack at full strength, poised to destroy the Granzian ships.

Because of the obvious numerical advantage, the enemy fleets would have a hard time standing up to such superior fire power.

The Mooscovites, Gaia Rodinians, and Daylami would follow up on the Shinoxian assault with a massive bombardment.

By morning the enemy fleet would be at the bottom of the Arabian Sea.

This is how it played out to Head Commodore Allan McNeil.

Since his arrival, he had been thinking of various ways to remove the Granzians from the Naval theatre, and after days of thought, he had come up with a solution.

He smiled to himself, ever confident of victory.

There would be no way for the Granzians to win he thought No, tomorrow morning will mark the end of the Granzian war front.

OOC: My attack will begin as soon as Granzi signals he is ready to begin.

~Edit~ Here's a picture of the V5-Bad Neighbor

V5-Bad Neighbor (http://www.onera.fr/conferences/ramjet-scramjet-pde/images/modern-ramjet-missile.jpg)

OOC: Something to the tune of upwards of 8,000 total aircraft are covering the Xinjiang front in waves. Like I said, I've been swamping your aircraft in every battle, and only with direct massive Taiwanese intervention are you going to win a battle in the air, something he hasnt provided you the entire battle, which means most of your aircraft should be mobbed out of the air.
IC

It became clear to Rao that the tanks were out of the question, and so he took his armored divisions and sent them around the flanks. Meanwhile, hundreds of thousands of Daylami men, armed with grenade launchers, AN-94s (bayonets), TA-1s, and ICARUS AT missiles swarmed over the craters to attack the Hudecians everywhere. Submachine guns leveled a tsunami of fire at the Hudecian troops, while the artillery again focused on the Hudecian troops, laying down a curtain of shells onto the Hudecians as cover fire, with special attention being given to the flanks [OOC: assuming center was already heavily hit like youy said last time]

OOC: Self-designed with both Eastern and Western influences.

Furthermore Daylam, how many F-22s do you have?

Xinjiang Skies
With air superiority fighters continuing to duke it out, ROCAF squadrons continue to arrive with advanced aircraft. With around 2,000 stealth aircraft and AWACS support, it seemed to Zhang that air dominance was guranteed.

The ROCAF had also deployed Pegasus UAVs flying separately from the interdiction aircraft employing advance electronic jamming equipment ; this would interfere with the semi-active guidance of the few F-22s that had managed to launch radar guided AMRAAMs and further tilted the air advantage to ROCAF.

Zhang had not ordered ground strikes yet due to the huge amount of SAMs, but in preparation for the eventual ground strike, a squadron of IDF-3 Interdiction aircraft on DEAD duties release a full load of 360 ALARMs (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/europe/alarm.htm) over the area in loiter mode. Some of them dove down onto enemy SAMs immediately, homing on their radars. Most of them loitered with the parachute, waiting for more SAM radars to come online before they disengaged their parachute to strike.

Another group of some 40 IDF-3s flying at their maximum altitude drop 4,000lb JDAMs (a total of 320) from an altitude of 60,000 feet. While not being brilliantly accurate from that altitude, the sheer numbers of bombs and Daylami troops on the ground would mean they were not wasted. With the heavy concentration of Daylami troops, the casualties were predicted to be huge.

Xinjiang
"Send a message to the Hudecians saying we have their backs."
"Roger."

The communications officer walked briskly into the IT suite and sent a message.

With the ROCA just arrived, Zhang wanted them to strike hard immediately. With the airforce doing "supremely well, but there's too many baddies" according to Chiang, he decided to set up a dozen or so SAMs to assist.

The ROCA's MLRS had also arrived, along with an assortment of munitions in large crates. For the first strike, Zhang had opted for ATACMS with a range of 140km filled with BAT (Brilliant Anti-tank) sub-missiles. The ROCA has modified these ATACMS with GPS guidance, so they were more accurate.

The army's photographer got in for a shot as the 120 MLRS launched ATACMS, one after the other, at the Daylami armoured formation. A JSTARS loitered overhead to monitor the results.

Sgt. Yazici finished off the Hudecian with a deft bayonet thrust while the man attempted to shoot at three other Daylami soldiers moving in. The signal came from all corners: leave the Hudecians where they lay, with a minor frontal assault, a small aircraft attack, and a massive artillery barrage on top of 10% casualties. He ordered his men back and, led by General Rao, they disengaged from the battlefield, as did the F-22s, who pulled back from the dogfights above and flew into well-protected Turkic air space. Men left, returning to their trenches.

Meanwhile, the final million reinforcements arrived at Hami, bringing the total to almost six and a half million men in East Turkestan. With Hebrew forces largely inactive, and the naval sector falling, it was considered grounding the Marine Corps and putting its hundreds of thousands of elite men to service hardening the Daylami position in Xinjiang. Meanwhile, with only 8.4 out of a total 9.6 million ground troops deployed, Tigin upped the ante. Another million men were placed in route to East Turkestan, to make Daylami numbers there incredibly overwhelming. Defenses were checked, tunnels deepened, guns cleaned. General Rao wanted an all-out offensive to crush the Taiwanese and Hudecian forces, but the qaghan would not allow it, stating that they would defend Xinjiang with ease, that all they wanted was Xinjiang, and that any other move might have political ramifications.
For now, Daylam looked to have a very good chance of winning this war.

Daylam: Losses? I just hit your front with an awful lot.

The army's photographer got in for a shot as the 120 MLRS launched ATACMS, one after the other, at the Daylami armoured formation. A JSTARS loitered overhead to monitor the results.

Another group of some 40 IDF-3s flying at their maximum altitude drop 4,000lb JDAMs (a total of 320) from an altitude of 60,000 feet.

(Pound for Pound, that is the equivalent of ~60 MOABs.)

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Chengdu
Zhang watched the live screen as it was beamed from a Pegasus UAV.
"They're retreating." an aide said.
"Tell me something I don't know. How is the ROCAF holding up?"
"Surprisingly well. No major casualties, our older aircraft have been redeployed to less risky positions."
"Get my airliner ready. I need to be closer to the action."

Xinjiang
With more reinforcements arriving by the minute, things were finally getting exciting. The MLRS convoy joins up with the Hudecians, with ROCA M1A2 Abrams scheduled to arrive soon. So far, 200,000 mechanised infantry had arrived. One convoy of Humvees brings additional medical aid and food to the Hudecians.

The MLRS switch to using ATACMs block II, with a range of 300km but with less BATs.

Skies over Xinjiang
ROCAF continues attacks on the Daylami AF, flying at high altitudes to avoid shoulder based SAMs. The ALARM missiles continue to loiter, with more being dropped regularly to replace those used up.

OOC: Umm... Daylam... my troops were already withdrawing from the field... so I don't see how you could attack them very easily.

8000 F-22s ??? Alright... how many T-90s do you have?

IC:

The Hudecian troops fought a rear guard action against the advancing Daylami forces. Keeping their enemy at a distance they refused obstinately to become heavily engaged with them. Daylam tanks taking the long route around were harried by more tank traps and mine fields on the relatively lightly hit flanks. Effectively keeping them out of the action.

For a moment Chellis was tempted to hold his ground in the center and deploy his armour to wipe out the unsupported infantry charging up and down the craters. Then he thought better of it... the Daylami armour could still get around, better to move back to the advancing Taiwanese and Hudecian armies for safety.

With the reinforcement of over 200 000 more Hudecian troops and another 200 000 being disembarked from their ships, things were looking much better.

"Send to the Taiwanese forces... have suffered almost 10% casualties, but our armoured divisions and mechanized infantry divisions are still intact. However, even with our reinforcements Daylam outnumbers us by 10 to 1."

Admiral Michaels would not take "no" for an answer. He came up with his own (rather bad) plan. "Major?"
"Yes Admiral?"
"Please send this message, coded as far as it will go, to Hudecia and her allies. we may be of some assistance yet."


Wish to help. Guns, missiles out of range. Wondering whether we may transfer carrier and larger aircraft to local friendly bases (yours). This is the only way to help. We await your reply.

Admiral Michaels would not take "no" for an answer. He came up with his own (rather bad) plan. "Major?"
"Yes Admiral?"
"Please send this message, coded as far as it will go, to Hudecia and her allies. we may be of some assistance yet."


Wish to help. Guns, missiles out of range. Wondering whether we may transfer carrier and larger aircraft to local friendly bases (yours). This is the only way to help. We await your reply.

OOC: Pacific Northwesteria, where are your ships?! I'm under attack and no one will help. BTW, you are welcome to use Granzi airforce bases near Anxi, just outside of Xinjiang.

After suffering light damage from the missile attack, (My CIWS system can repel sea-skimming missiles.) Granzian ships cease hostilities and head south. Due to lack of reinforcement, the vessels will turn toward Reunion. If they come under attack, Granzian ships have the orders to return fire. My fleets are not surrendering, as no heavy damage has been done overall. To discourage continuation of hostilities, the 1st Battlefleet, largest and most powerful in the navy, will be sailing from Granzi and meeting them halfway.

Total losses of the campaign:

1 Helina Class Battlecruiser
1 Portlandia Class Missile Cruiser
1 Adari Class Air Defense Destroyer
2 Atlantia Class Destoyers
1 Royale Class Frigate
3 Grevant Class Missile Frigates

1896 dead
3065 wounded

OOC: Eh...Hudecia, sorry, didn't know you were already involved. Please ignore my telegram to you then :P

As I am inactive, all Zoogiedom forces to be involved will hereby be placed under the jurisdiction of _Taiwan.

IC:

Sixty thousand Zoogiedom ground troops are now being deployed to the nation of _Taiwan in their Mongolian holdings (I thinK? ... wherever _Taiwan wishes them to go) in support of the allied war effort against Daylam.

We are saddened that it has come to the day where Zoogie and Daylam forces will fight against each other, but indeed it has come.

Forty C-240 supersonic transport aircraft and 25 CMP-240 cruise missile platforms (on the same basic airframe) have also been deployed to aid with logistical transport and air strikes, supplementing CK-ROC's amazing logistic capabilities.

An unspecified but rather large amount of cruise missiles is also due.

Sixty state of the art ZaS-42 strike aircraft and forty advanced ZaS-27 stealth fighters are also being deployed; rumour has it that this force contains in addition a squadron of the enlargened ZaS-27 fighter-bomber.

Finally, a substantially sized carrier battle group based around two Lunar-class carriers is being deployed to the closest seas for theatre support, to join Doujin naval forces. Nearly the entirety of this force is composed of Doujin-purchased naval vessels, so integration should be smooth.

More Zoogiedom forces are not being committed due to domestic issues and military restructuring, but if called upon, we will do the best thing we are able to in this situation and launch massive cruise missile strikes from Zoogiedom...

OOC: As a fine upstanding memeber of both the OMP and CAP and hence obviously an ally of Granzi it is only natural that Crookfur would becoem involved. I don't wish to riun anything but Crookfur will likely have 168 warships in the area as part of on going OMP deployments and as part of the CAP we would have to deploy lots of aircraft aswell.
if this woudl wreck things feel free to speak out.

((Check your TG's Granzi))

OOC: As a fine upstanding memeber of both the OMP and CAP and hence obviously an ally of Granzi it is only natural that Crookfur would becoem involved. I don't wish to riun anything but Crookfur will likely have 168 warships in the area as part of on going OMP deployments and as part of the CAP we would have to deploy lots of aircraft aswell.
if this woudl wreck things feel free to speak out.

OOC: Very well.. only none of the Antarctic nations will recognize you nor any one else from the OMP untill Daylam gets back.... (about 1 week).

OOC: thats fair enough, although a smaller element was actually pledged a few days ago but granzi seems to have forgotten about it...
i assume the same goes for the CAP?

"Comrade Admiral?"
"Yes, I see them. Give them a volley."

Another klaxxon sounded, and this time broadsides from every battleship in the Rodinan armada fired at the Granzi fleet. The 24 Leningrad BBGs each fired off a full launch of 96 missiles, keeping plenty in reserve. 150 AF-Z53 Crazy Penguin heavy bombers launched from their respective carriers, quickly followed by an equal number of AF-X11 Interceptors.

The incoming aircraft were tracked on radar and reported to Admiral Howard. "Very well, launch all fighter aircraft at once. Split them into 2 wings, and left the first one fly to the north. Also alert the AA batteries on every ship. Form the vessels into a circle, destroyers and frigates on the outside, capital ships in the center."

Over 500 aircraft filled the sky. Numerous Ultra Tomats and Super Hornets were backed by their more powerful relatives, Firebirds and Seabolts. The 1st air wing swung back as the enemy was approaching, catching the opposition in an airborne pincer. Every single plane lauched munitions at once, filled the sky with swarms of GAA-50 and GAA-56 missiles. Equipped with state-of-the-art tracking system and infered laser targeting, they lock onto enemy aircraft, as Granzian planes had imbedded ID tags. Tracer fire filled the air from Adari destroyers.

Missile defense systems aboard the ships kicked in next, as the ARAD system combined with CIWS shot down most incoming missiles. A Grevant was hit in the engine room, and a massive explosion split the vessel in two. As the salvo ended, Granzian battleships fired off several rounds at the GR ships. A host of GM-20 and GM-32 missiles took off from the Portlandia cruisers, headed for the Gaia Rodina fleet. The MGA-12 "Ironstorm" shot was used. A solid 2000 lb. reinforced steel slug, the projectile relied on the massive kinetic force generated from impact to cause damage. More effective against heavily-armored vessels, they were used against the lead battleships.

A message was sent to the Gaia Rodina commander:

Desist from your attack at once! Your forces have fired the first shot in this battle. We have no quarrel with Gaia Rodina, please do not give us a reason to. Reinforcements are comming, and if your ships do not stand down, we will be forced to destroy them. This is your last warning.

OOC: Crookfur, I have not forgotten. You have sent 2 battlegroups I believe.

OOC: Granzi, are you going to respond to my telegram???

"Attention Granzi vessels. This is Admiral Yuri Padorin of the Red Fleet. We gave you a warning to withdraw. You ignored us. We are here in support of our allies in Dancing Moose and Shinoxia, as according to the SAND treaty of '78. You must withdraw, immediately."

Round hit the Motherland's #4 turret.
"DAMAGE REPORT!"
"Turret four is down, armor failing fourth quarter, starboard side!"
Padorin growled.
"Ready another volley."

"Attention Granzi vessels. This is Admiral Yuri Padorin of the Red Fleet. We gave you a warning to withdraw. You ignored us. We are here in support of our allies in Dancing Moose and Shinoxia, as according to the SAND treaty of '78. You must withdraw, immediately."

Round hit the Motherland's #4 turret.
"DAMAGE REPORT!"
"Turret four is down, armor failing fourth quarter, starboard side!"
Padorin growled.
"Ready another volley."

"Attention Granzi vessels. This is Admiral Yuri Padorin of the Red Fleet. We gave you a warning to withdraw. You ignored us. We are here in support of our allies in Dancing Moose and Shinoxia, as according to the SAND treaty of '78. You must withdraw, immediately."

Round hit the Motherland's #4 turret.
"DAMAGE REPORT!"
"Turret four is down, armor failing fourth quarter, starboard side!"
Padorin growled.
"Ready another volley."

"Attention Granzi vessels. This is Admiral Yuri Padorin of the Red Fleet. We gave you a warning to withdraw. You ignored us. We are here in support of our allies in Dancing Moose and Shinoxia, as according to the SAND treaty of '78. You must withdraw, immediately."

Round hit the Motherland's #4 turret.
"DAMAGE REPORT!"
"Turret four is down, armor failing fourth quarter, starboard side!"
Padorin growled.
"Ready another volley."

On page 24, I stated clearly that Granzian ships are withdrawing from this theater. And Dancing Moose, the systems simply have to depress down far enough. Besides, I have Vizon UAVs that provide constant surveillance around the fleets. And I use laser lock-on and targeting.

Admiral Michaels was made happy by the news of friendly bases near Xinjian. He dispatched the following air forces to those bases, along with supply planes for fuel and armament:

310 MiG-29 Fulcrum (naval) carrier fighters
210 Su-33 fighter-bombers (naval)
100 F-109D fighters
30 DD-1 A High Altitude heavy bombers
10 DD-1 B Spy Planes
45 B-2 Spirit Bombers

The now-emptied carriers would return home guarded by a small escort fleet. The remainder of the fleet was ordered to reinforce Granzi's position. The following ships will arrive momentarily (they were already in the area, see previous posts):

4 Mackensen Class Battleships
6 Thunder Child Class Battleships
25 Orion Class
35 Defiance Class Frigates
15 Skjold Class
10 Sea Wolf Class Subs

These forces will be under the joint command of Pacific Northwesteria and Hudecia/Granzi (local ally). More reinforcements will be sent if needed, but Pacific Northwesteria wishes to keep her lands safe, as well.

What happened to your bombers and interceptors? They were hit by over 500 aircraft and out numbered almost 2 to 1.

IC: Now that reinforcements have arrived, as well as the Granzian 1st Battlefleet, the newly invigorated navy has turned back to the north.

The United Kingdom of Isselmere-Nieland, after having ventured to the site of struggle, arrives to support its allies from the OMP with its Rapid Reaction Fleet (numbers to be posted as soon as I am able).

Rapid Reaction Fleet
30 Forthar-class SSGN
4 Stortbek-class SSK
2 Royal Holly-class CVN
1 Royal Edmund-class CV
1 Rapier-class CVQ
1 Bastion-class BBGN
1 Council-class BBGN
5 Monarch-class BBG
11 Province-class CG
25 County-class DDG (AD)
26 City-class DDG (GP)
50 Furtive-class FFH
8 River-class K
3 Lord-class LHD
3 Ungforth-class LPD
3 Valley-class LSD
25 Flansburgh-class AOR
6 Aylesburgh-class AS
27 LCAC
18 LCM

What happened to your bombers and interceptors? They were hit by over 500 aircraft and out numbered almost 2 to 1.

IC: Now that reinforcements have arrived, as well as the Granzian 1st Battlefleet, the newly invigorated navy has turned back to the north.

OOC: Before I start another attack, you mentioned you are withdrawing from the naval theatre.

Is this true? If so, my allies and I will allow you to withdraw on honorable conditions.

The Granzian fleets were about to withdraw temporarily until reinforcements arrived. Now that Pacific Northwesteria realeased control of his forces to me, as well as the arrival of the 1 Battlefleet, the Granzian vessels are returning to the battle. These reinforcements have boosted my numbers up an additional 166 ships.

1ST BATTLEFLEET

CARRIER BATTLE GROUP 1

2 Vengence Class Supercarriers
2 Roydia Class Battleships
2 Triara Class Light Cruisers
2 Adari Class Air Defense Destroyers
4 Atlantia Class AEGIS Destroyers
5 Grevant Class Missile Frigates

CARRIER BATTLE GROUP 2

2 Vengence Class Supercarriers
2 Roydia Class Battleships
2 Triara Class Light Cruisers
2 Adari Class Air Defense Destroyers
4 Atlantia Class AEGIS Destroyers
5 Grevant Class Missile Frigates

ASSAULT FLEET 1

1 DeTruss Class Battleship
1 Leviathon Class Battleship
2 Helina Class Battlecruisers
4 Portlandia Class Missile Cruisers
4 Adari Class Air Defense Destroyers
4 Atlantia Class AEGIS Destroyers
4 Royale Class Frigates
5 Grevant Class Missile Frigates

SUBMARINE SQUADRON 2

6 Spirit Class Submarines
6 Seawolf Class Submarines

71 Ships Total

The Granzian fleets were about to withdraw temporarily until reinforcements arrived. Now that Pacific Northwesteria realeased control of his forces to me, as well as the arrival of the 1 Battlefleet, the Granzian vessels are returning to the battle. These reinforcements have boosted my numbers up an additional 166 ships.

1ST BATTLEFLEET

CARRIER BATTLE GROUP 1

2 Vengence Class Supercarriers
2 Roydia Class Battleships
2 Triara Class Light Cruisers
2 Adari Class Air Defense Destroyers
4 Atlantia Class AEGIS Destroyers
5 Grevant Class Missile Frigates

CARRIER BATTLE GROUP 2

2 Vengence Class Supercarriers
2 Roydia Class Battleships
2 Triara Class Light Cruisers
2 Adari Class Air Defense Destroyers
4 Atlantia Class AEGIS Destroyers
5 Grevant Class Missile Frigates

ASSAULT FLEET 1

1 DeTruss Class Battleship
1 Leviathon Class Battleship
2 Helina Class Battlecruisers
4 Portlandia Class Missile Cruisers
4 Adari Class Air Defense Destroyers
4 Atlantia Class AEGIS Destroyers
4 Royale Class Frigates
5 Grevant Class Missile Frigates

SUBMARINE SQUADRON 2

6 Spirit Class Submarines
6 Seawolf Class Submarines

71 Ships Total

OOC: Very well, but you do realize that PN and you are heavily outnumbered....

If you withdraw there will be no dishonor, should you not your fleets will be devastated.

((Oh don't MAKE me bring in my third fleet. I'm warnin you boy))

"Comrade Admiral! Granzian vessels inbound!"
"FIRE!"
Another slew of broadsides streaked out towards the Granzi fleet, the awesome firepower of the Gaia Rodinan battleships clearly showing (he said modestly).

The AF-X11 Interceptors fired their PHEONIX missiles from a safe distance, each one firing two. Then, they accelerated to mach 2 and let loose with their .50 calliber guns and AMRAAM missiles.

The Crazy Penguins, meanwhile, dipped below the clouds on a low strafing run, making a mad dash for the Granzi fleet and prepping their GBU-28/Bs.

Admiral Padorin opened a wide-band channel.
"Attention OMP fleets. This is Admiral Padorin of Red Fleet Command. Leave the area now. We do not wish for this conflict to increase. We have no conflict with the OMP, or any of its member nations. Please, for the sake of human life, stop this conflict."

Indian Ocean
Flying off the coast of Ceylon, the squadron of 24 IDF-3 fighter-bomber aircraft were quite a way from their base in Taipei. It was just under an hour, and the aircraft were supercruising, but it was neccesary to slow down for the mid-air refueling to begin. It would take around ten minutes for the squadron to be refueled.

The aircraft were carrying a variety of ordinance, both air-to-air and air-to-ground. It would be just under 20 minutes when they got into range of their anti-ship weapons, but still well out of range of the Phoenix, SM-2 MR, and the ESSM.

Indian Ocean
Flying near Ceylon, the squadron of 24 IDF-3 fighter-bomber aircraft were quite a way from their base in Taipei. It was just under an hour, and the aircraft were supercruising, but it was neccesary to slow down for the mid-air refueling to begin. It would take around ten minutes for the squadron to be refueled.

The aircraft were carrying a variety of ordinance, both air-to-air and air-to-ground. It would be just under 20 minutes when they got into range of their AGMs, but still well out of range of the Phoenix, SM-2 MR, and the ESSM.

OOC: If you are attacking Daylam, please wait because he will be unable to reply to your post.

*Edited to reveal true location

*Edited to reveal true location

OOC: Ummm... not that I can tell.

If you are sending them towards my fleet or an allied fleet, it might be a good idea to use more planes...

Seizing the initiative, the Granzian fleet attacks the Gaia Rodinan vessels. High Admiral Howard (recently promoted) addresses those assembled on the bridge of the Valiant.

"With the arrival of the Pacific Northwesterian ships as well as those of the Isselmere-Nieland, our forces are finally gaining the strength needed to challenge the naval forces of our foes. Admiral Grashal, you will lead the 1st Battlefleet due west 100 km and then turn to the north, followed by the PNW fleet. With any luck, the Gaia Rodinans won't know what hit them. An attack on 2 fronts will require exact timing. I am counting on you as the commanders to carry this through. Now go!"

Exactly 1/2 hours later, the Gaia Rodinans were within range of the battleship guns. "Load the guns and fire!” MGA-12 "Ironstorm" projectiles were used and aimed at the heavy battleships within the enemy fleet. (Note: The MGA-12 is a solid reinforced steel shot that relies on kinetic energy to pierce armor. Especially effective against battleships and heavily armored vessels.) With a mighty roar, all the Granzian battleships opened up and unleashed full broadsides. A few seconds later, a missile strike of over 500 GM-20 and GM-32s were launched from the Portlandia cruisers. Using precision laser targeting combined with radar imaging, they were fired at the smaller support ships.

Hundreds of fighter aircraft were scrambled from the carriers. The massive air assault winged to the north and toward the Gaia Rodinans. Half of the total aircraft left in squadrons of 12. Enemy battleship was assigned a squadron, with the carriers getting 2 each. The cargo bays were loaded to the brim with laser-guide bombs and armor-piercing missiles. The Seabolts and Firebirds dived in following the bombardments and fired their GM-65s. The target was the weaker armor of the base of the turrets, hopefully disabling them. Several planes erupted in fireballs, but they just came coming. Ultra Tomcats and Super Hornets gave watch over the air while F-22 Sea Raptors loosed the ordinance.

OOC: Im back, but can someone please give me an unbiased report about what's going on, before I can RP. As for the Daylam, I don't want to hear anymore number wanking from you (you have no numerical superiorty compared to us)!

((Oh don't MAKE me bring in my third fleet. I'm warnin you boy))

"Comrade Admiral! Granzian vessels inbound!"
"FIRE!"
Another slew of broadsides streaked out towards the Granzi fleet, the awesome firepower of the Gaia Rodinan battleships clearly showing (he said modestly).

The AF-X11 Interceptors fired their PHEONIX missiles from a safe distance, each one firing two. Then, they accelerated to mach 2 and let loose with their .50 calliber guns and AMRAAM missiles.

The Crazy Penguins, meanwhile, dipped below the clouds on a low strafing run, making a mad dash for the Granzi fleet and prepping their GBU-28/Bs.

Admiral Padorin opened a wide-band channel.
"Attention OMP fleets. This is Admiral Padorin of Red Fleet Command. Leave the area now. We do not wish for this conflict to increase. We have no conflict with the OMP, or any of its member nations. Please, for the sake of human life, stop this conflict."

1. Remember, I have 500 fighters against 150 of yours. And the ARAD defense system aboard my ships are laser guided and can easily shoot down bombers. And unfortunantly for you, the GM-40 missile travels at mach 4, and can easily track down your aircraft.

2. I am a member of the OMP. Why do you think so many memebrs are helping? :P

OOC: Im back, but can someone please give me an unbiased report about what's going on, before I can RP. As for the Daylam, I don't want to hear anymore number wanking from you (you have no numerical superiorty compared to us)!

OOC:

Daylam is on vacation and won't post for about a week, so please halt action on that front.

Christians for Israel and Promise of Joshua appear to have lost all interest in this thread, and I am unable to continue my ground war because of that. If you guys don't mind, can I declare victory on that front and move to Daylam's?

Xiaguo will all numbers back. Only 100,000 remain in Bordering Xinjiang.

OOC: Im back, but can someone please give me an unbiased report about what's going on, before I can RP. As for the Daylam, I don't want to hear anymore number wanking from you (you have no numerical superiorty compared to us)!

OOC:

Daylam is on vacation and won't post for about a week, so please halt action on that front.

Christians for Israel and Promise of Joshua appear to have lost all interest in this thread, and I am unable to continue my ground war because of that. If you guys don't mind, can I declare victory on that front and move to Daylam's?

You can say that the attack/threat never materialized on that front and then move to the east. But declaring victory is a bit far. BTW, didn't Daylam leave command of his forces to you? (There was a thread I believe) You could RP them, like I was give control of PNW's fleet.

OOC: Im back, but can someone please give me an unbiased report about what's going on, before I can RP. As for the Daylam, I don't want to hear anymore number wanking from you (you have no numerical superiorty compared to us)!

OOC:

Daylam is on vacation and won't post for about a week, so please halt action on that front.

Christians for Israel and Promise of Joshua appear to have lost all interest in this thread, and I am unable to continue my ground war because of that. If you guys don't mind, can I declare victory on that front and move to Daylam's?

You can say that the attack/threat never materialized on that front and then move to the east. But declaring victory is a bit far. BTW, didn't Daylam leave command of his forces to you? (There was a thread I believe) You could RP them, like I was give control of PNW's fleet.

OOC: I didn't see it the thread.

The reason for declaring victory would be because they no longer participate in the thread and are holding up the progress.

If I assume that my bombardments destroyed the Hebrew front, I can safely move on and deal with Sino and _Taiwan.

OOC:

Daylam is on vacation and won't post for about a week, so please halt action on that front.

OOC: By vacation, that S.O.B.'s prbably working for al Queda and moving safehouses! LOL!

OOC 2: Typical comedy of Liu (Sino's player), ya gotta love that!

A strike package of seventy-two Rafale-Ms, ninety-six Rafale-BMs, twelve Rafale-BM(EW)s, and twenty-four Rafale-BM(ADS)s form over the three fleet carriers of the RINN fleet as the drone carrier Sabre sent twenty-four Terns and twelve Rooks towards the enemy ships. Twenty-four Rafale-Ms would remain over the fleet on CAP, along with the Harrier IIs from the LHDs, while the remainder of the strike proceeded towards their targets. The Forthar-class submarines, one third of which were operating at periscope depth, thus able to communicate via secure datalink with the surface fleet, would begin firing their TASMs once within range (the other two thirds would alternate between those operating at a lower depth, but above the thermocline and the remaining third operating below that level once the first group fired).

OOC: So here's the attack plan...

The Rooks would provide the fleet with an accurate targetting solution (each dropping 2 Starling small smart bombs to attack either radars or anti-missile defences), the subs and surface ships will fire their TASMs, the Terns would attack with Pigeon anti-radar missiles (3 per Tern), Rafales would attack with air-launched Pelican AShMs (2 per plane), the battleships will fire their Pelicans followed by their Harpoons once within range (including those carried by other surface ships, the remaining attack aircraft (2 per plane), and the submarines (similar sub attack plan as that used for the TASMs, with 6 Sub-Harpoons per sub)) before attacking with naval gunfire. The remaining Terns would return to attack with SDBs to pierce enemy hulls.

The Merlin ASW helicopters are operating on full alert to detect enemy subs and use its search radar to detect enemy ASMs or SSMs (as well as subs using periscopes, range about 120km (don't know the detection range for missile sized objects, though, but it's very effective over water!)).

OOC:

Sino... this is the full report

400 000 Hudecian troops near the border with Xinjiang after being pushed back from the border by an Daylami assault outside of Xinjiang (they crossed the border to attack me)

200 000 Hudecian troops incoming

250 000 Taiwanese troops supporting Hudecian forces.

60 000 Zoogiedom soldiers incoming

Estimates on Daylami forces +7 million.

The Sinoese launched a counter offensive of over 3000 cruise missiles, accomapanied by ballstic missiles and conventional artillery. Although some air losses were confirmed, their numbers were replenished by the factories the Sinoese have occupied. Sino continues to churn out military hardware for her allies.

A strike package of seventy-two Rafale-Ms, ninety-six Rafale-BMs, twelve Rafale-BM(EW)s, and twenty-four Rafale-BM(ADS)s form over the three fleet carriers of the RINN fleet as the drone carrier Sabre sent twenty-four Terns and twelve Rooks towards the enemy ships. Twenty-four Rafale-Ms would remain over the fleet on CAP, along with the Harrier IIs from the LHDs, while the remainder of the strike proceeded towards their targets. The Forthar-class submarines, one third of which were operating at periscope depth, thus able to communicate via secure datalink with the surface fleet, would begin firing their TASMs once within range (the other two thirds would alternate between those operating at a lower depth, but above the thermocline and the remaining third operating below that level once the first group fired).

OOC: So here's the attack plan...

The Rooks would provide the fleet with an accurate targetting solution (each dropping 2 Starling small smart bombs to attack either radars or anti-missile defences), the subs and surface ships will fire their TASMs, the Terns would attack with Pigeon anti-radar missiles (3 per Tern), Rafales would attack with air-launched Pelican AShMs (2 per plane), the battleships will fire their Pelicans followed by their Harpoons once within range (including those carried by other surface ships, the remaining attack aircraft (2 per plane), and the submarines (similar sub attack plan as that used for the TASMs, with 6 Sub-Harpoons per sub)) before attacking with naval gunfire. The remaining Terns would return to attack with SDBs to pierce enemy hulls.

The Merlin ASW helicopters are operating on full alert to detect enemy subs and use its search radar to detect enemy ASMs or SSMs (as well as subs using periscopes, range about 120km (don't know the detection range for missile sized objects, though, but its very effective over water!)).

OOC: Who's side are you on?

Hey, do you guys mind if I move my troops over to Daylam's front? Granzi, did Daylam allow me to control his forces?

Admiral Brett Burleigh stood on the deck of the Narcosis, one of the newer Leviathon Class Battleships to complement the Doujin Navy. The ocean seemed relatively calm, a brisk wind picking up from the south however forced the Admiral to wear his jacket. Fully prepared, battleplans ready the Doujin Fleet Command (All 10 Battlegroups, and 3 Assault Groups) were preparing to enter conflict. Covering a radius of nearly a hundred square kilometers (the Battleships and the Carriers in the middle - the escorts on the outer rim - mine ships in the front looking for mines..), the Fleet was a sight to see.

"Sir, we are getting a transmission from an unknown vessel."

"Unknown? Check the Sat. uplink - see if Omen Sore can triangulate the location of the ship."

"On it, sir."

The Ensign worked furiously, sending command after command to the satellite network, 'Omen Sore', to try and triangulate the source of the transmission. The transmission itself was jarbled, making the Ensign's work that much more important.

"Sir, it's coming from a Fleet about 120 nautical miles north of the lead ship - the Granzi Naval Fleet."

"Good! Send them this ..."


Granzi Naval Fleet, this is Admiral Burleigh of the Doujin Fleet Command, Severus. We are here to assist you, consisting of 10 Battlefleets and 3 Assault Fleets - we will be a significant addition to your forces. We are 120 nautical miles out.. so we will be there soon so to speak. I wish to meet up with your Admiral aboard the DN Narcosis, if that is at all possible to go over possible plans of attack.

OOC: So, this is being based off of RL areas and such? If someone could find a map and modify it to show me what areas exactly so I can better formulate a plan..

And also, I apologize for my 'late-ness', however, a fleet of this size just doesn't appear out of thin air.. I've taken into account the size and how long it would take to navigate the NS world to aid my allies. Hence the long time to meet up with Granzi/allied forces.

OOC: Who's side are you on?

Hey, do you guys mind if I move my troops over to Daylam's front? Granzi, did Daylam allow me to control his forces?

OOC: Sorry, I thought I'd mentioned (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/posting.php?p=3279766#3279766) that. I'm on Granzi and Doujin's side as an OMP ally.

OOC: I'm allied with Granzi through the CAP and the OMP, so I'm joining this whole conflict.

Airfield #5743, Al-Sabir
11:00 PM Local Time

Commander Radan felt the cold desert breeze, it made him shiver, as he walked over the concrete floor of the special climate-controlled hangar to his B-2A. The hangar's door was already opened and the last weak evening sunlight peered over the horizon, as it vaguely lit the black, ram-coated surfaces of the "Spirit". He saw some ground crew near the bird's bomb bays, leading the last weapon trolleys away. The total amount of ordnance they would carry tonight were 80 500lb JDAMs, for, as it was called, "Psycological Warfare".....

The skies over Al-Sabir
11:30 PM Local Time

The flying wing, named Alpha-Sierra-Niner-Five, gracefully ascended, higher and higher, through the clouds, up to the clear dark sky above those. It accelerated and made an small course change, now heading for the Gulf, at an altitude of 45,000 feet......

Within the Royal Holly-class carrier St. Semprini deep within the carrier battle group Admiral Sir Anthony Jarvis stared at the threat board. "What kind of enemy force are we really up against?"

Commander Anne Polder rubbed her eyes, sore from six hours of poring over computer screens. "Not really certain, sir," she answered. "All we know is that Granzi took heavy losses and only returned to the fray after receiving reinforcements from Pacific Northwesteria."

Jarvis shook his head. "How is the progress of our force?"

"The Rafales are nearing their ingress point and the ships are ready to fire their Tomahawks," Polder stated. "We may be able to give them something to think about."

"Let's hope so."

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OOC: Escort composition and positioning around carriers and battleships:
The cruiser within a carrier group coordinates the disposition of the destroyers and frigates within the group, although this function can be handed over to either the carrier or the destroyers. The air defence destroyers just outside the carrier group core, with the carrier well within the destroyers' overlapping area defence missile range. Anti-submarine ships operate close to the carrier, covering the carrier with shorter range "self-defence" missiles (actually, Aster-15s). Aircraft on CAP operate on the outer air defence perimeter, about 100nm away from the carrier group core. While not an impregnable line of defence, it is fairly difficult for something to get through to the carrier.

*Edited to reveal true location

OOC: Ummm... not that I can tell.

If you are sending them towards my fleet or an allied fleet, it might be a good idea to use more planes...

OOC: :x , why would they go over the ocean if they wanted to get at Daylam :P?

IC:

400km away from the fleets
Cruising at 45,000 feet, high enough to be somewhat safe from naval SAMs, the aircraft establish radio silence, contributing to the stealth.

120km from the fleet
The Pegasus UCAVs loitering nearby from earlier (lots of pages back) turn on their radars against the enemy fleet. With each UCAV having a ECM pod that was several time more powerful than the EA-6's AN/ALQ-99F, the effect of the entire group's (5) was going to be astronomical.

But there was a downside - now the enemy fleet knew that something was going to happen, and the UCAVs wouldn't stand a chance if they were detected by non-radar means.

(OOC Point : During military exercises (US-ROC), a single EA-6 was able to blackout the whole of Northern Taiwan's radar stations. Not bad considering their most powerful one back then had a range of 800km, similar to the smaller NS ships)

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(Secret IC)
A dozen ShangZhou class SSGNs depart from Tainan, Taiwan.

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"Nothing to do." Zhang said.
"Yes, Daylam's player had to leave for a whole week."
Zhang looked at his aide, surprised and confused.
"Nothing."

So Zhang turned his attention to the naval battle. The Pegasus UCAVs had proved useful in tests. He wasn't sure about their effectiveness on the ships of the new millenium.

"How long until our submarines get close enough to work?"
"A day and a bit at most."

-Anxi-

With the arrival of the third group of troops, there were now 600 000 Hudecian's near the border with Xinjiang.

Plans were made to transfer another 5000 aircraft to help the war effort. Temporary airfields were being constructed under heavy anti-air defences.

OOC:

This is just a message to all the OMP guys coming in, please wait. because of Daylam's absence, we are trying to keep the thread to original participators only.

Those are:


Doujin
Pacific Northwestria
Granzi
_Taiwan
Sino
Hudecia
Xianjing

vs.

Shinoxia
Dancing Moose
Gaia Rodina
Daylam

If you won't to enter the thread, please wait until Daylam returns to make it even.

Doujin, without Daylam's navy, our force is smaller, we're trying to make this a fun RP so please don't attack with twice our numbers....

OOC: Ok, I'm just going to try and catch everyone up....

Christians for Israel and Promise of Joshua have lost interest in the the thread.

Daylam is gone for a week.

There is a full scale naval battle raging in the Arabian Sea.

My troops are moving to a new front....

OOC 2:

Ok, on Daylam's front, whom exactly is he attacking here? Does he border Hudecia and Xianjing? Where are _Taiwan and Sino located?

OOC: 1. Yes, Daylam did give you contol of his naval forces, http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=151180&highlight=. Yes Shinoxia, you can move to the eastern front.

2. The Eastern front is the border between Xinjiang and Gansu province. Granzi has numerous bases (air and ground) near Anxi. Hudecia has sent troops and aircraft to Anxi and is constructing more airfields.

DP

OOC: 1. Yes, Daylam did give you contol of his naval forces, http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=151180&highlight=. Yes Shinoxia, you can move to the eastern front.

2. The Eastern front is the border between Xinjiang and Gansu province. Granzi has numerous bases (air and ground) near Anxi. Hudecia has sent troops and aircraft to Anxi and is constructing more airfields.

1. Alright, because of this increase in size, I will make it fair by allowing the entrance of one new ally of Granzi's choosing.

2. Does Daylam have any allies, or is he all alone on this side of the world?

1. Alright, because of this increase in size, I will make it fair by allowing the entrance of one new ally of Granzi's choosing.


I already jumped right into this whole thing, but I didn't ask anything to anyone, so I hereby ask Granzi to admit me as final a ally to this conflict.

Currently, we have by your standards, only 2 nations with naval capabilities in the area. (Doujin and me, Pacific Northwesteria will not RP opposed to Shinoxia, Daylam, DM, and Gaia Rodina) So I propose we let in both Al-Sabir and Isselmere, especially since Al-Sabir has not shown any intention as of yet to send in fleets.

OOC: indeed, I won't send any fleets or enormous armies, I'll be focusing on the sometimes completely ignored aspects of war, psycological warfare, electronical warfare, stuff like that. Maybe some smale-scale CAS missions as well and small amounts of ground troops, but this conflict will also be a nice playground to try out some of my newly acquired technologies and weapons

OOC: Um...question. If most of the powers involved in the original conflict are gone...why are we allowing our ships to be blown to bits by each other? I see nothing to be gained from this conflict.

...After suffering light damage from the missile attack, (My CIWS system can repel sea-skimming missiles.)...


And Dancing Moose, the systems simply have to depress down far enough. Besides, I have Vizon UAVs that provide constant surveillance around the fleets. And I use laser lock-on and targeting.

No way. You would overload your fire control computers by doing this. They would have to coordinate all the different radars, triangulate, and hit 100 supersonic missiles at barely above sea level? Ummm no. Im going to need some more realistic damage before I go on.

[Well, once Dylam gets back I'm going to be sending some ships in. I won't say what exactly, but the surprise won't be pleasant.]

OOC: I kind of agree with Gaia Rodina on this one...the main combatants in this war were: Christians for Israel, Daylam, Promise of Joshua, Xinjiang, and _Taiwan.

CfI and PoJ have stopped RPing in this thread, Daylam is on vacation, Xinjiang is withdrawing men, Taiwan is about the only one fighting...

I entered this war to get some territory if Daylam won and to turn the tide in his favor, I was told I would be fighting the Hebrews...somehow I'm fighting Granzi. Perhaps we should consider to end the fighting in the Arabian Sea?

If not, Granzi, you may have your two allies enter. Doujin, if this war continues navaly please think before you start posting numbers. We're trying to keep this fun and you sending in 900 ships will probably end it...

The Stalin suffered critical damage to its armor and weapon control station. She was effectively out of the fight.
"All vessels, pull back. We have nothing to gain from this fight."

The Gaia Rodinan armada ceased firing on the smaller Granzi force and headed back for Antarctica.

OOC: LOL... I was outnumbered 10 to 1... and Daylam now has like 5-8 million men in Xinjiang compared to our 1 million combined.. why shouldn't they be allowed to bring in their full navies?

Anyway.. I'm not going to do anything till Daylam gets back..

BTW Xinjiang is a province.. Xiaguo is a nation...

The ARSA has mustered another 3 million to bring the numbers up to 6 million, while the ARSAF is bringing in another 2000 fighters. To our allies involved, we now have the numbers to match this race that does nothing but breed!

Admiral Michaels was preparing to attack.
"Send a message to our allies, so that we may attack together. Unless this situation is resolved, we are preparing to fire the following volley:
(Secret OOC:)
1822 Tomahawk Cruise Missiles (at the front ships, because they'll shoot them down if I fire missiles over them)
36 16" Electro-thermal naval guns (at small/medium vessels, should be a one-shot kill)
96 22" Electro-thermal naval guns (at medium/large vessels, should kill or cripple. Several of these will be shot for each capital ship, hopefully crippling much of their combat ability)

This is just a long-range shot. At closer range, we will bring larger forces to the table. Waiting for your go-ahead, Granzi, so that we can organize and synchronize this strike. Unless, of course, this can be resolved peacefully.....

"Sir, it looks like Pacific Northwesteria's getting ready to fire," Cdr Polder declared.

The Isselmere-Nielander flock of Tern drones was entering the Pigeon's release point radius and would soon release its payload of anti-radar missiles against the enemy fleet. Meanwhile, Rook drones gained some altitude to provide an accurate targetting solution to the RINN fleet's missiles.

"Nothing's been intercepted as yet, sir," Polder noted. "From the volume of signals coming in from the enemy fleets, there seems to be some confusion."

Jarvis nodded. "That will be of some use."

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OOC: The RINN fleet is preparing to launch 1,344 TASMs, 288 air launched Pelican anti-ship missiles, and 156 air-launched Pigeon anti-radar missiles. My fleet is currently about 450 nm away from the vanguard of the opposing fleets.

"Admiral, we have recieved a transmission from the Pacific Northwesterian fleet, stating they will attack the enemy. Also, satellite feeds show the Isselmere vessels preparing to fire as well. Your orders?" relayed Ensign Johnson.

High Admiral Howard turned from the bridge's instruments and stepped down. "Set a transmission to all allied fleets at once. Meanwhile, ready the guns and form the ships into "Alpha Formation" at once. Alert all ships and ready battlestations."

Secret Transmission:

The Granzian fleets are ready to join in any attack on our foes. We suggest eliminating the Shinoxians first, as their alliance will fall apart without the centerpiece. We are ready to lauch 1,500 GN-50, GM-20, and GM-32 missiles and use the MGA-12 "Ironstorm" round against armored vessels. Also, our aircraft are on standby the perform airborne strikes.

End Transmission.

...After suffering light damage from the missile attack, (My CIWS system can repel sea-skimming missiles.)...


And Dancing Moose, the systems simply have to depress down far enough. Besides, I have Vizon UAVs that provide constant surveillance around the fleets. And I use laser lock-on and targeting.

No way. You would overload your fire control computers by doing this. They would have to coordinate all the different radars, triangulate, and hit 100 supersonic missiles at barely above sea level? Ummm no. Im going to need some more realistic damage before I go on.

Im posting this, again, so maybe Granzi will see it.

The ships of the fourth, fifth, and sixth fleets had been sailing a patrol pattern on the souther end of the Haven Strait. Armadas of this size did not normally form unless war was imminent and it was, just not as close to home as Admiralty had feared. Orders had been cut earlier in the week for the ships to sail to join the Allied fleets already in seas around the Gulf. They knew where the enemy fleets would be and began uploading a streaming list of GPS coordinates that defined the search area within a much larger box for every missile on the Ryuho class guided missile battlecruisers.

"Ma'am, search patterns uploaded to all relavant birds," the Admiral's comms officer reported.

Admiral Harrington nodded and replied, "Order the battlecruisers to prepare two second launch intervals for their missiles and only launch enough missiles for a five missile to a ship ratio. Wasting all of our missiles this early in the game would be foolish."

The comms officer nodded acknowledgement and then said, "Any further orders ma'am?"

"Sit tight and wait for my signal to attack," was the Fleet Admiral's only reply.

Base 101
Along the Chinese Border

The leader of the Shinoxian Naval Forces, Head Commodore Allan McNeil, had been moved to land to secure his saftey.

He had recieved news that Gaia Rodina had withdrawn, and now only his ally Dancing Moose and his own fleets held Daylami waters.

His strategy needed to be changed.

At first he had wanted a slow, overwhelming force to descend on Granzi, using their numerical advantage to destroy them. However, when the number of ships changed to the enemy's favor, his strategy needed a revision.

For years, Shinoxian money had been poured into bomber research, developing a special bomber with a bomb capable of sinking giant ships.

They had succeded.

This was not the only area where Shinoxian funds had been put into, after awarding a submarine contract to Clan Smoke Jaguar, the Shinoxian Submarine Service had been invented, now including a vast fleet of subs.

The time for victory on the surface of water had passed, but now they would win with another branch of the Shinoxian Armed Forces.

He smiled to himself.

They have no clue what they have coming.

He fell asleep.

OOC: Ok, I've changed my strategy, I'm using the massive Shinoxia Air Corps to bombard ships, as well as use the Shinoxian Submarine Service to hit them from below.

Don't expect too much more surface action from me.

Granzi, I suggest you re-evaluate your casulties. I think DM did a lot more damage than you are giving him credit for...

280km from the Shinoxian/DM fleet

Four IDF-3 fighters pull into a climb and engage afterburners, a manuvere to increase the effectiveness of the kinematic missiles preparing to be launched.

By the time the four aircraft hit 68,000 feet, they are travelling at Mach 2.6, 280km away from the Shinoxian/DM fleet. The eight VESTAT missiles on each craft are released, with a half-half split between HE warheads and kinematic warheads.

The rockets on the missiles activate, boosting the missiles into ramjet speed. They would climb to 90,000 feet before performing a powered dive onto the Shinoxian/DM fleet's carriers.

The group of other fighters continue closing in.

"Ma'am, Rear Admiral Somerville reports that allied aircraft have engaged the Shinoxian fleet," relayed her Fleet Communications Officer. James Somerville was the commander of her first of two destroyer flotillas and was usually the first to report something.

"Very well, order the Ryuho squadron to send the first volley," Admiral Harrington ordered.

The light and sound of the huge cruise missiles being fired off from the extensive Mk72 VLS cells was a sight to behold. One could understand how the Iowa-sized ships got the ryu, dragon in English, part of their name.


[Just some fact about the cruise missiles I just fired at your fleet. They'll be coming in on a ballistic arc at about 45 miles elevation going about Mach 4 or so. When they get into the appropriate position they will enter an 85 degree dive that will make their speed increase to Mach 12. The warheads are polymer-bonded explosive (the most powerful plastic explosive in existance) penetrators that can go through ten feet of steel armour. The missiles are guided by LIDAR and jamming homing (which is a bit redundant since most people don't have the technology to jam LIDAR.) As stated earlier, there will be five missiles to every ship (and I'm going to need to know how many ships you have so I can take the appropriate number of missiles out of what I originally had.)]

...After suffering light damage from the missile attack, (My CIWS system can repel sea-skimming missiles.)...


And Dancing Moose, the systems simply have to depress down far enough. Besides, I have Vizon UAVs that provide constant surveillance around the fleets. And I use laser lock-on and targeting.

No way. You would overload your fire control computers by doing this. They would have to coordinate all the different radars, triangulate, and hit 100 supersonic missiles at barely above sea level? Ummm no. Im going to need some more realistic damage before I go on.

Im posting this, again, so maybe Granzi will see it.

[OOC: Check out the following: the Senit (http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/gaulle/index.html) combat management system on board the CdG can process and track 2,000 targets. The only questions are: a) can his radar depress that low (either electronically for a planar array or physically for a trainable array/fire control director); b) can said detection methods distinguish between waves and fast movers; c) how large an RCS the missiles have; d) whether ASW helicopters and AEW aircraft have their search radars on look-down (for the former, the case is generally "yes"); e) is anyone paying attention on the attacked ship, and; f) how fast is fast?]

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"Vessels from the Scandinavian States have fired, sir," declared Polder as she pointed to the missile tracks threading their way towards the enemy fleets on the big board.

"We might as well put in our two pence," Admiral Jarvis answered. "Inform all units weapons status is green and to prep the anti-missile defence systems."

The RINN fleet and aircraft launched their missiles towards the enemy fleets (1344 TASMs (the 360 from the subs arriving in three equal waves), 288 air-launched Pelican anti-ship missiles, and 156 air-launched Pigeon anti-radar missiles are being fired).

...After suffering light damage from the missile attack, (My CIWS system can repel sea-skimming missiles.)...


And Dancing Moose, the systems simply have to depress down far enough. Besides, I have Vizon UAVs that provide constant surveillance around the fleets. And I use laser lock-on and targeting.

No way. You would overload your fire control computers by doing this. They would have to coordinate all the different radars, triangulate, and hit 100 supersonic missiles at barely above sea level? Ummm no. Im going to need some more realistic damage before I go on.

Im posting this, again, so maybe Granzi will see it.

[OOC: Check out the following: the Senit (http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/gaulle/index.html) combat management system on board the CdG can process and track 2,000 targets. The only questions are: a) can his radar depress that low (either electronically for a planar array or physically for a trainable array/fire control director); b) can said detection methods distinguish between waves and fast movers; c) how large an RCS the missiles have; d) whether ASW helicopters and AEW aircraft have their search radars on look-down (for the former, the case is generally "yes"); e) is anyone paying attention on the attacked ship, and; f) how fast is fast?]

OOC: Ok, assuming he has his CIWS guns aimed down (as if he was expecting Sunburns), then after 3rd party talking with a naval specialist, he said that Phalanx guns have about a 60-80 hit percentage (in the, what, 5 seconds they shoot)... so that would mean that about 70 of my 100 missiles would be shot down by them, giving 10 more missiles for each ship I specified. If any one of those 3 ships survived the 10 missiles (each having a 500lb shaped explosive warhead), then it must be at least out of action.

Admiral Michaels received the transmission from his allies. He double-checked the targeting data: 1822 modern tomahawk cruise missiles would be fired almost simultaneously at the lead ships in the Shinoxian fleet, heavily concentrated in a burst. This should overload any missile-defenses... there can be no exact statistic on the effectiveness of Phalanx-type systems. It can only target one missile at once per unit. These missiles would be coming so many at once that at least a few would have to hit each ship... hard.
The 36 16" ETCs would be firing repeatedly, spreading their fire evenly across six medium Shinoxian ships at the captains' discretion.
The 96 22" ETCs would be fireing repeatedly as well, spreading their fire evenly across all Shinoxian capital ships.
All seemed to be in order. The Admiral waiting for the go-ahead to come over the secure comm channel, and then said with relish: "FIRE!!!". The volley was away, everything was reloading. Michaels was proud of the power of his fleet.
[OOC: Assume that this attack is coordinated with everyone else's attacks. It's impossible for me to fire for them, but the comm synchronization was posted previously. Fire away, boys!
P.S. Anyone know how to get rid of the two blank pages at the end? When I do an egosearch they make it impossible for me to get to my last read post in one move (at least the way I do it)]

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...After suffering light damage from the missile attack, (My CIWS system can repel sea-skimming missiles.)...


And Dancing Moose, the systems simply have to depress down far enough. Besides, I have Vizon UAVs that provide constant surveillance around the fleets. And I use laser lock-on and targeting.

No way. You would overload your fire control computers by doing this. They would have to coordinate all the different radars, triangulate, and hit 100 supersonic missiles at barely above sea level? Ummm no. Im going to need some more realistic damage before I go on.

Im posting this, again, so maybe Granzi will see it.

[OOC: Check out the following: the Senit (http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/gaulle/index.html) combat management system on board the CdG can process and track 2,000 targets. The only questions are: a) can his radar depress that low (either electronically for a planar array or physically for a trainable array/fire control director); b) can said detection methods distinguish between waves and fast movers; c) how large an RCS the missiles have; d) whether ASW helicopters and AEW aircraft have their search radars on look-down (for the former, the case is generally "yes"); e) is anyone paying attention on the attacked ship, and; f) how fast is fast?]

OOC: Ok, assuming he has his CIWS guns aimed down (as if he was expecting Sunburns), then after 3rd party talking with a naval specialist, he said that Phalanx guns have about a 60-80 hit percentage (in the, what, 5 seconds they shoot)... so that would mean that about 70 of my 100 missiles would be shot down by them, giving 10 more missiles for each ship I specified. If any one of those 3 ships survived the 10 missiles (each having a 500lb shaped explosive warhead), then it must be at least out of action.

OOC: I never said I used Phalanx CIWS. The Granzian navy switch a long time ago to a new system designed in Granzi, providing a faster firing rate, enhanced sensors, and more adaptable electronics. I was not expecting Sunburns, but those aircraft and UAV are there for a reason.

My casaulty count is already preety high, compared to Shinoxia and DM. I lost a capital ship (Helina Class BC) and about 8 other ships. How high do you want it?

IC: "Admiral, sensors show that allied fleets have begun strikes upon the enemy," reported the Communications Officer.

"So the action has begun. Alert all battlestations and give the green to begin firing at once." The Valiant turned sideways and fired a broadside. The others ships did likewise entered the fray. Over a thousand high speed cruise missiles were fired from the cruisers, mostly GM-20 and GM-32s. The MGA-12 "Ironstorm" was once again used on enemy battleships, with aircraft on standby. The salvos continued while foamin waves radiated from the fleets.

Well, since I launched 100 Sunburn missiles at your 3 lead ships, then I expect to see that at least 10 hit each ship. Thats already giving you 70 missiles that you shot down. That in and of itself is incredible, given the few seconds reaction time that your CIWS would have.

[DM, I don't think you're listening. He doesn't use CIWS as we know it but something similar to my CAMDS, a 30mm chaingun and multiple guided missile launcher. I'd give such a system a 95% take-down probability.]

[DM, I don't think you're listening. He doesn't use CIWS as we know it but something similar to my CAMDS, a 30mm chaingun and multiple guided missile launcher. I'd give such a system a 95% take-down probability.]

When I refer to 'CIWS' I refer to any Close-In-Weapon-System. Of course, Phalanx guns would be refered as this, as well as RAM's, Millenium Guns, and your system. Before we start trying to guess what Granzi's system is 'more like', why dont Granzi himself describe how it works.

Also, a chaingun fires extremely slow compared to the Phalanx gun, the only part of your system that would improve take-down probability is the missile launcher (given that is resembles a RAM).

OOC: 95% is a bit high, and 60-80% kill probability for the Phalanx is quite high, but one also has to factor in ECM, chaff, IR decoys, etc. that might dissuade the missiles as well as potential malfunctions suffered by the missiles and the anti-missile defences, which is the precise reason most of my ships have a lot of missiles...

That said, Gatlings do tend to have a higher rate of fire; RAM missiles, if it strikes a Moskit size target (with an assumed ca. Mach 5 closure rate (RAM at Mach 2.5-3 and the Moskit at 2-2.5) there'd be a lot of wee missile bits bouncing off the hull and sea, and; Moskits might not give more than a few seconds reaction time (at Mach 1.5, if the Moskit was detected at 60 km, it would offer about 2 min. reaction time; if it was going at Mach 2, ~90 sec.). Assuming 33 missiles per ship, with 10%-20% failure rate of the missiles (whether from countermeasures or malfunction; let's say it's 10%), so 30 missiles left. Each RAM launcher (let's assume again) fires 2 missiles against each targetted missile from 11-10 km out to 2 km. Again, assume 10-20% failure rate (likely 20-30%), so that's at best 9 hits per launcher (very optimistic scenario for the defender). If these are all attacking on a one front with one joint RAM-CIWS system, 21 are still coming in. Assume, optimistically again, 70% of the incoming missiles are destroyed by the cannon (highly improbable): that leaves 6 missiles that have penetrated the screen. That said, 33 Moskits attacking one ship (contrary to the missile's normal programming) would prove a mighty big flock to miss, and it is quite possible that by destroying a couple at low level, one might destroy a couple of others in the process.

Just a scenario...]

Yeah, that is a good scenario of what might happen, but the thing is about RAM's, they tend to have a much larger range than Phalanx, probably about 3-5 miles out, giving an increased kill ratio.

I said about 10 missiles might make it.. but ill live with 6, which should still do a significant amount of damage, if not sinking.... (sinking only if it was a destroyer or another type of small craft).

Yeah, that is a good scenario of what might happen, but the thing is about RAM's, they tend to have a much larger range than Phalanx, probably about 3-5 miles out, giving an increased kill ratio.

I said about 10 missiles might make it.. but ill live with 6, which should still do a significant amount of damage, if not sinking.... (sinking only if it was a destroyer or another type of small craft).

OOC: As I listed, the official max. range of the RAM is about 10-11 km (6.21-6.83 mi.), so I'd figure the defender would use a layered defence: first, medium and intermediate-range missiles, then short-range missiles, then close-in cannons. Also, the six missiles to which I referred was for each combined close-in missile/cannon position assuming all thirty-three were attacking the same point. The Moskit may be able to mix up its attacks ensuring that maybe a couple would find a gap--although three couples would be a possibility. (Please excuse the hedging!) Also, the Russians assumed, quite rightly, about 1.2 to 1.5 Oniks/Yakhont missiles would be required to sink an (unarmoured) destroyer, especially if the warheads exploded (see what an Exocet can do, then increase the warhead size and speed; ugly...).

Shin-African Waters
Port New Hope

After sustaining large losses during the last attack, the Shinoxian fleets had been allowed to refit in Shinoxia

Planes and Subs would be in charge now.

The Shinoxian Submarine Service had been activated, stationed in Shin-Africa, and would join the battle soon.

Operation End Game had begun.

This Sub and Plane attack was designed to heavily damage enemy fleets while the Shinoxian Surface Fleets were re-commisioned.

The Shinoxians had enough equipment to do it.

Using Shinoxian ScramJet Bombs (http://media.hyperreal.org/zines/reverb/pix/13-bombs.jpg), the SHB1-Black Bettys (http://www.x-plane.org/users/morgan/Images/M122ATakeoff.jpg) recently designed, Shinoxian aircraft would take off from African bases, then head out to sea and cause as much damage as possible.

Accompanying them would be F26A-Deep Angel superiority fighters, F111X-Aardvark stealth fighters, and F23A-Intercepor fighters, the Interceptors equipped with supercaptivated torpedoes. (Sorry, I'll have to dig out the pictures.)

Shinoxian High Command had made the first target the fleets of Isselmere.

They were deemed the most vulnerable.

Pilots had been briefed on the assault, and it's value, they were ready.

There would be three strikes of five hundred planes.

Seventy-Five of the planes would be the Black Betty bombers, equipped with the powerful SSBs.

Two Wolfpacks of the Shinoxian Submarine Service would follow up on the attack.

OOC: Isselmere, your my first target, so be ready.

The Shinoxian ScramJet Bombs work like the Shinoxian ScramJet Missiles, once they are dropped the RamJet engines would activate, and as it neared it's target, the ScramJet engine would activate and penetrate the deck of enemy ships.

Inside a Black Betty Bomber
First Strike Force

The men of the SHB1-Black Betty Bomber, called "Death Rattle", had been told what to do...destroy the enemy fleets no matter what the cost.

The Shinoxian Surface Fleets had been damaged when they were fired on by large concentrations of enemy ships, they had drifted back to Port New Hope to lick their wounds.

Now it was the Bombers turn to cause damage.

Pilot Jackson Fennigan's squadron had gone into "Delta Formation", the bombers high in the skies, Interceptors at sea level, Deep Angels protecting the bombers, and Aardvarks up in front.

This formation was particulary successful in fleet destruction.

They began to near the target.

"This is Alpha 1 to Bombing Squadron One Zero, we are nearing the mission area, reach maximum elevation." Squadron Leader Fennigan said.

The Bombers began to slowly climb to 90,000 feet, keeping them safe from many enemy planes.

The Isselmerian fleet began to come closer.

"Load SSBs" he said in a low voice.

The time had come.

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OOC: Woah, how fast is time moving here? How did your fleet get from Iran to Africa in like....*click*?

In any case, ignore the previous post about me launching ASCMs, and assume my aircraft are loaded out in AA configuration (since there was no fleet there to begin with).

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To: GOC RINN RRF, Adm. Jarvis
From: ROCAF Squadron No 2

Roger, we are within 10 minutes of your fleet. Please allow our aircraft to use your AWACS via JTIDs infolinks.

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With true LPI radars turned on, the squadron of 24 IDF-3 Interdiction aircraft arm their SkySword IV missiles, a ramjet with a range of 120km. Now they had to wait until the enemy got within range.

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A lone IDF-3 peels off and engages it's afterburners, climbing to 70,000 feet and launches eight ALRAAMs (range 320km.)

Although the ALRAAM was not fired against something of that altitude in tests, the pilot was confident it would score some kills - from his logic, it was derived from technology of the SA-20 Triumf which could reach 120,000 feet, and the Shinoxian pilots wouldn't have expected missiles from that distance, leading to the surprise factor. The seeker would go active at the last moment, leading to almost no reaction time for countermeasures.

To: GOC RINN RRF, Adm. Jarvis
From: ROCAF Squadron No 2

Roger, we are within 10 minutes of your fleet. Please allow our aircraft to use your AWACS via JTIDs infolinks.


[on secure datalink]
"ROCAF Two, Raven Home [code for the fleet flagship]. Roger, you're a go with AD [air defence] datalinks. Good hunting!"

The admiral ordered the air defences within the fleet placed on autofire, while Harriers, armed with MICA missiles, and half the Rafales, armed with MICA and Meteors, streamed against the sea-skimming fighters. The other twelve Rafales, armed similarly to their low-flying brethren, flew beyond their service ceiling (65,620+ ft I think) in the hope of being able to pluck a few Betties out of the sky. The returning fighters (48 single seat armed with Meteors and MICA; 120 two-seaters armed with MICA, with 12 EW aircraft), having fired their Pelicans at long range, were not too far from the fleet and sped towards the enemy aircraft, the single-seaters with the Meteors going towards the high-fliers. Jamming systems were readied for activation. "Here we go."

OOC:

To answer questions...

Taiwan, my naval port is located in North Africa, it wouldn't take long at all to reach North Africa from the Arabian Sea.

Isselmere,

a. I wasn't really sure, I had 6 different people firing at me, on different ships, with different weapons, making it hard to remember...

b. Yes, I wanted to give you time to respond before I started attacking, unlike some people...

c. An Interceptor isn't what you are thinking of, Interceptor is just the name, it has nothing to do with the plane...

d. I meant arm, but I thought "Load SSBs" sounded cooler. :P

The SSBs way around 500 pounds, but weight isn't a big deal when you have that much power coming down at 90,000 feet.

Did you see the picture? They are a littler bigger than B-52s.

Did you read how my formation went? I had Bombers at 90,000 feet, Deep Angels in the middle to deal with fighters, Interceptors at the bottom, and Aardvarks in the front...


IC:
Within 100 nautical miles of the Isselmerian fleet

Enemy aircraft closing in, the men of Bombing Squadron Five Zero had to react

Deep Angel Pilot, Roger Nelson, and the men in his formation turned into "Spear" Formation, when the fighters formed into a pyramid formation.

He thought the stealthy Aardvarks had already engaged, the enemy probably never saw them coming.

He saw a formation of enemy Rafale fighters turning upward to get near the bombers.

They would not let that happen.

The Formation streaked up near the enemy planes and engaged.

In battle, the twenty-four Deep Angel planes broke into teams of two, hoping to double up on the enemy.

The sound of Air-to-Air Sidewinder Missile whizzing past, an enemy plane went down.

The Rafales now sped downward, knowing their attempt to hit the bombers was futile.

One of them succeded in a lucky shot, knocking off one of the wings of a Deep Angel, the plane could land on one wing so the pilot was safe, but it would have to turn back.

The enemy planes began to drop now, the sheer numbers and superiority of Shinoxian planes overwhelming them.

In a few minutes the battle was over.

One Deep Angel had been crippled, another had been shot down when an air-to-air missile had hit it.

The pilot had ejected.

The men in the fighters were rewarded for their jobs when they heard the sound of the ScramJet Bombs being dropped.

Roger Nelson looked down to see an enemy ship explode when a bomb landed on it's deck.

The fighters now turned low to guard the Interceptors.

OOC: Your turn.

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[Just here to remind you that I launched against your ships. I also need to know the number of ships you have pre-launch so I can know how many missiles I have left.]

[Just here to remind you that I launched against your ships. I also need to know the number of ships you have pre-launch so I can know how many missiles I have left.]

I cant keep this going now I have to go somewhere, but like we have stated before, we will be ignoring any nation not previously involved in this conflict indefinatly (until Daylam gets back, which should be any day now...).

IC:

"Sir, a transmission from the Isselmere fleet!" relayed the Commuication Officer aboard the Valiant. Admiral Howard strode toward the data bank terminal and glanced at the readout. "Set course for them immediately. I want all AA and SAM defenses on high alert and get the word out to activate the ARAD system. Send the 1st fighter wing over, and destroy any enemy aircraft in the air."

"At once, admiral." stated the CommOp as he turned back and began furiously dispatching messages to the fleet. Within a minute, the mass of ships slowly turned 90 degrees and sailed full speed toward the Isselmerians(?). On board, the sailors worked at loading the Vertical Launch units and prepped the CIWS systems for action. The following message was sent:

~Secret Transmission~

To: GOC RINN RRF, Admiral Jarvis of the Isselmere fleet
From: CGN HA-G, Admiral Howard

We have recevied your call for assistance and our fleets are headed in your direction. The 1st air wing will be arriving shortly to reinforce your aerial defense net and capabilities. Please specify situation as of now and any additional areas of which we could be of service.

Yours in the struggle,
High Admiral Howard

~End Transmission~

Six squadrons of 6 GFB-26 Seabolt Multi-role fighters each lift of from their respective carriers and begin climbing altitude. After reaching their cruising ceiling at 55,000 feet, they streacked toward their destination. Filled to the capacity with GAA-50 and GAA-56 missiles, the pilots desperately hoped to see some action at last. Closely following were 5 squadrons of ZaS-27M Firebirds, armed similarly. Flight Commander Adalfus stabilized his bird, before radioing his companions.

"Alright people, you know what to do." 36 fingers simulatanously flicked on the EW modules beneath their cockpits.

Shinoxia:
To have that sort of all out superiority against top of the line fighters like the Rafale (while i'm more of a eurofighter man myself the rafale is still an excellent fighter and fully able to hold it's head up with the new gen comabt aircraft) you would have to be using very very advanced and quite liekly ignoreable fighters.
As to to your interceptors you mention them as F23s would these be F23 black widows? in which case Isselmere is right about them carrying torps...


Also while a good method of story telling and well wirteen your psot does cross the line to effectively anouncing Isselmere cassualties for him.


There was moaning about the doujin ruining RP the same could be said to apply here.

I agree with Crookfur. You can't announce actions of enemies, unless you have logical proof. You can't ignore everything that they shoot at you. You also can't RP before anyone else has had a chance to respond. Also... you got hit by about 3000 cruise missiles and a heck of a lot of heavy gunfire. Your fleet is "damaged"? You were the one complaining about godmod... anyway, I launched right as your fleet started to turn tail. You did not get from in range to out of range before I could fire.

::before the enemy air forces were even close::
"Damn!" swore Admiral Michaels. "Why did I have to dispatch all of my carrier planes to the Daylami conflict in China? _Taiwan isn't even using them... half a thousand fighters woulda come in handy... (OOC: since that conflict is on hold, can I have my carrier forces back for now? It really doesn't seem fair...) for now, we'll have to get into defensive mode."
Admiral Michaels ordered: "Switch out the tomahawks and fill the VLS with SAMs. Those 1822 missiles are now going to go after fighters and bombers. Get our AA guns ready, too..."
35 MK75 76mm guns
102 5" guns
228 Phalanx CIWS (missile defense)
Assorted chaff and anti-missile ship systems

"Get a feed from all of our allies... secure, of course... so that we don't hit THEIR planes. Move!"

OOC: please respond to my request for the return of those planes.

Also while a good method of story telling and well wirteen your psot does cross the line to effectively anouncing Isselmere cassualties for him.


There was moaning about the doujin ruining RP the same could be said to apply here.

If a character says it then it doesnt count, but Isselmere is probably right.. the pilot wouldnt be able to see down to the water, unless he was using some kind of thermal satellite cam, which is possible.

[Just here to remind you that I launched against your ships. I also need to know the number of ships you have pre-launch so I can know how many missiles I have left.]

I cant keep this going now I have to go somewhere, but like we have stated before, we will be ignoring any nation not previously involved in this conflict indefinatly (until Daylam gets back, which should be any day now...).

[I didn't launch against your ships and unless you're puppet wanking you don't speak for him. Furthermore, as the aggressors you don't have the right to IGNORE anything nor do you have the right to regulate who is invited into the conflict, expecially when you're (rightly) afraid you're going to get your collective asses kicked.]

OOC: Umm... I'm kinda assuming that this entire naval conflict is going on parallel to the battle on the ground... which should be restarting ... anytime now...

So, maybe we should just leave the fighters on the ground for now.

OOC: well on the ground front you have my highland Corps arriving shortly (or arrived) and about 1000 fighters...

Isselmere, the Aardvark is in no way similar to the F-111, except in looks. If you had read my earlier post you would have seen specs...You said I didn't give you time to respond to my planes? I gave you more time than most do, I don't recall having any time to react to Granzi's hundreds of planes but I didn't ignore them.

Yes, read the specs on the Aardvark, I believe it is superior to the Rafale.

Pacific Northwestria, listen I don't think you understand. You guys post one after another throwing out numbers like crazy, it's hard for me to respond to many posts with numbers everywhere. When the forums rarely work long enough to make a reply, it's hard to respond to each and every attack without missing any detail.

Essentialy, I said the attacks forced a withdraw, but isn't that what you would want in the first place?

Crookfur, as I said above about the Interceptor, that is only a name, it is an entirely ficitional plane. No it is not the Black Widow, whatever that is...

SS, I think I missed your posts and I'm sorry, but I wouldn't worry about you beating me, as your pretty weak for a large nation...

Not trying to sound whiny, but if you could allow me to respond to each post before you all attack together it would be useful...

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Isselmere, the Aardvark is in no way similar to the F-111, except in looks. If you had read my earlier post you would have seen specs...You said I didn't give you time to respond to my planes? I gave you more time than most do, I don't recall having any time to react to Granzi's hundreds of planes but I didn't ignore them.

Yes, read the specs on the Aardvark, I believe it is superior to the Rafale.

Pacific Northwestria, listen I don't think you understand. You guys post one after another throwing out numbers like crazy, it's hard for me to respond to many posts with numbers everywhere. When the forums rarely work long enough to make a reply, it's hard to respond to each and every attack without missing any detail.

Essentialy, I said the attacks forced a withdraw, but isn't that what you would want in the first place?

Crookfur, as I said above about the Interceptor, that is only a name, it is an entirely ficitional plane. No it is not the Black Widow, whatever that is...

SS, I think I missed your posts and I'm sorry, but I wouldn't worry about you beating me, as your pretty weak for a large nation...

Not trying to sound whiny, but if you could allow me to respond to each post before you all attack together it would be useful...

OOC: First, if the Aardvark is similar in shape to the F-111, it is not stealthy, it is not very maneuverable, no matter what technology you use, and thus it is not superior to a design produced a good 40-years later with the advantage of unstable aerodynamics. The F-111 is, in comparison, a stable plane, thus is not of the same calibre of the Rafale. Speed doesn't necessary indicate complete superiority.

Yes, I did say I had insufficient time to respond. I also asked where you are flying from. If you're flying from N. Africa, I ought to have been able to have picked you up on radar before you reached 100 nm from my fleet, maybe not the Interceptors, but certainly the high fliers.

You also assumed a hell of a lot. That I had no missiles, that my pilots could do absolutely nothing -- indeed, you decided from the very beginning that a 2:1 advantage relates to a 12:1 kill ratio. Also, you broke a rather fundamental rule of RP here by declaring my losses for me. What happenned to "Here's what I did, how will you respond?" Being presented with a fait accompli is insulting, especially when you cavalierly disregard a number of things, and you assume that little defence means no defence. I also called for assistance from allied powers, which you disregarded. Even if your Deep Angels achieved a 12:1 kill ratio over the Rafales, they'd still have to contend with the planes from _Taiwan.

I never said I would ignore your 500-1500 aircraft, but I did indicate that such a sizable force excepting those flying at low level, would certainly appear on radar. And when they appeared on radar, especially the high fliers, I would have called for assistance, as I had. What assistance I received, you ignored.

You also ignored how fast you transitted from the Persian Gulf to North Africa.

I'll lose ships, fine. No problem. Hell, you're using scramjet missiles. But be a bit more careful in your RPing, as we will in ours.

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1) You keep thinking I'm weak, just remember that in the twenty or so wars I've been in I've never lost.
2) I still need to know how many ships you had pre-launch.
3) You need to take losses.
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[
1) You keep thinking I'm weak, just remember that in the twenty or so wars I've been in I've never lost.
2) I still need to know how many ships you had pre-launch.
3) You need to take losses.
]

OOC:

1. Against who? I still think your weak...

2. 331.

3. I just posted how many losses my aerial attack had, I'm waiting for Isselmere to respond. I lost track of all the different attacks people were throwing at me, so I had my Armadas fall back to refit....

[
1) I've been here for more than a year, do you honestly expect me to remember all of my wars?
2) Thank you
3) I still fired before you pulled out, which means you should be taking losses from my attack. I'm also curious as to how you pulled out, as I understand it the Allies (including myself) had you and your ally's ships pinned in the Gulf.
]

[
1) I've been here for more than a year, do you honestly expect me to remember all of my wars?
2) Thank you
3) I still fired before you pulled out, which means you should be taking losses from my attack. I'm also curious as to how you pulled out, as I understand it the Allies (including myself) had you and your ally's ships pinned in the Gulf.
]

1. Oh I'm sure... :roll:

2. Sure.

3. Pinned? I don't think you "pinned" over three hundred of my ships, and over 200 of DMs. I took losses from the attack and fell back to refit. When you have a port in North Africa, getting out of the Arabian Sea is pretty easy....

OOC: Ugh, this thread is getting very cluttered. If CFI is gone I'll go ahead and start ANOTHER million men on the road to Xinjiang, bringing me to almost 10 million men. There is simply no way Taiwan and Hudecia will be able to break through. Every military handbook in the world says that ATLEAST a 3 to 1 numerical majority is required for large assaults on well-defended positions. You guys are behind almost 10 to 1. Xinjiang is simply not worth it to lose your men on suicidal runs against massively superior men.
The terms I offered you were EXTREMELY generous, I suggest you except them and get this over with, a minor annexation of a Turkic province has turned into a massive war because the Han can't stomach a loss of pride. Besides the fact that you are horribly outnumbered and have to attack formidable defensive works, there is the fact that individually a Turk will fight better than a Chinese will. Call it rascism or whatever, but in every last battle where a Turkic group fought with a Chinese army, they fought better. Look at the Türük, Ugyhur, Mongol, Xiongnu empires. All these were horribly outnumbered and still crushed Chinese armies (who were well-equipped, trained, and fighting defensively for their homelands) time and time again. They certainly wont be winning when they are outnumbered and fighting offensively for a desert inhabited by hostile Muslim Turks when they could be getting the resources there for free anyways. :roll:
IC


The TPAF was putting on a poor show. So General Rao reluctantly pulled them back further into Xinjiang and once again relied on SAM and AA defenses. The war itself was in the bag, he thought. Massive artillery bombardments daily struck anyone approaching Xinjiang, the defense systems were completed. Any strike made by the limited anti-Turk forces was doomed to failure. Redudant tunnel systems were made so that even if some were destroyed the Turks had a safe place to go.

In the water, command of the 270 ships of the TPN was left in the hands of the Shinoxians for now.

OOC:

Daylam, check TGs.

OOC: Daylam... numerical superiority falls short when one side has technological superiority. Besides, to quote a patriot, "I haven't yet begun to fight".

Take for example the battle in Saudi Arabia during the first Gulf War. Over 100 000 troops were thrown against a few hundred mixed allies holed up in a small city.

Within 24 hours, the US had wiped the entire army out, suffering light casualties.

Or, take the example of the entire first gulf war, where the Iraqis held numerical superiority in a defensive position.

BTW, you claim to be from northern Iran, which makes your men Muslim, your actions of aggression are contrary to the teachings of Islam. (That's how the US helped destroy the morale of the Iraqi army)

OOC: The gap between the run-down, poorly made T-72s of Iraq and the US Army is far, far greater than the gap between the Hudecian and Daylami armies. The Iraqis had nowhere near as many men as I do, they didn't have defensive positions set up, they were poorly led, their equipment was 70s and 80s Russian which was poorly made, lacking in spare parts, and falling apart, and the populace didnt support the war.

About Islam, this war is not being waged on fellow Muslims. That's why the Iraqi armies were dispirited in Kuwait, because the Kuwaitis were Muslim. This is a mission of Turkic unification, rescuing Muslims from Athiest scum. My men are motivated on both the racial and religious front.

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IC: RINN RRF, post-Shinoxia attack

30 Forthar-class SSGN
4 Stortbek-class SSK
2 Royal Holly-class CVN
1 Royal Edmund-class CV (listing heavily, will likely be scuttled)
1 Rapier-class CVQ
1 Bastion-class BBGN (damaged)
1 Council-class BBGN
3 Monarch-class BBG (one not listed in the process of sinking)
8 Province-class CG
19 County-class DDG (AD)
16 City-class DDG (GP)
28 Furtive-class FFH
2 Lord-class LHD
1 Ungforth-class LPD
16 Flansburgh-class AOR
3 Aylesburgh-class AS

[
1) I've been here for more than a year, do you honestly expect me to remember all of my wars?
2) Thank you
3) I still fired before you pulled out, which means you should be taking losses from my attack. I'm also curious as to how you pulled out, as I understand it the Allies (including myself) had you and your ally's ships pinned in the Gulf.
]

1. Oh I'm sure... :roll:

2. Sure.

3. Pinned? I don't think you "pinned" over three hundred of my ships, and over 200 of DMs. I took losses from the attack and fell back to refit. When you have a port in North Africa, getting out of the Arabian Sea is pretty easy....

OOC: That would bring your total ship count to around 531. I single handedly brought 640 odd ships into this conflict, not including whatever Isselmere or Granzi had. i have yet to post an attack or defense of anyone, however, I did come to assist and I have ships in the area. Now, assuming this is the Persian Gulf (I'm not totally sure, I just saw/heard 'Gulf" - either way, the way I brought my ships in in conjunction with the other fleets would most certainly block your ships in. Even if you were to say the entire Arabian Sea, you would still run into some of my ships at the least.

Isselmere, the Aardvark is in no way similar to the F-111, except in looks. If you had read my earlier post you would have seen specs...You said I didn't give you time to respond to my planes? I gave you more time than most do, I don't recall having any time to react to Granzi's hundreds of planes but I didn't ignore them.

Yes, read the specs on the Aardvark, I believe it is superior to the Rafale.

Pacific Northwestria, listen I don't think you understand. You guys post one after another throwing out numbers like crazy, it's hard for me to respond to many posts with numbers everywhere. When the forums rarely work long enough to make a reply, it's hard to respond to each and every attack without missing any detail.

Essentialy, I said the attacks forced a withdraw, but isn't that what you would want in the first place?

Crookfur, as I said above about the Interceptor, that is only a name, it is an entirely ficitional plane. No it is not the Black Widow, whatever that is...

SS, I think I missed your posts and I'm sorry, but I wouldn't worry about you beating me, as your pretty weak for a large nation...

Not trying to sound whiny, but if you could allow me to respond to each post before you all attack together it would be useful...

Stop cluttering the thread with disputes. The most you ever mentioned of my air attacks was "aircraft overhead." I couldn't tell if they were yours or mine. There was no reference of any casualties from my aerial strikes or any counteraction. I gave you plenty of time to respond, all I ever posted was aircraft being launched and headed toward your vessels. I never even RPed anything because you never reponded to either of my attacks aerially. If you look at my posts I specifically stated what happed to my ships and how they were sunk/damaged. Don't make me drag up that post.

OOC: The province of Xinjiang is heavily populated my muslims.

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1) You keep thinking I'm weak, just remember that in the twenty or so wars I've been in I've never lost.
2) I still need to know how many ships you had pre-launch.
3) You need to take losses.


OOC:

1. Against who? I still think you're weak...

2. 331.

3. I just posted how many losses my aerial attack had, I'm waiting for Isselmere to respond. I lost track of all the different attacks people were throwing at me, so I had my Armadas fall back to refit....

OOC: Yes, an almighty two aircraft. Sorry, one; the other can fly and land with one wing. And revamped-1960s technology, too. Ah, technology! And supersonic ship transport, too, past my ships without me being able to see them. My sailors need better binoculars. And radar. But enough complaining. To end all my petty bickering...

What I had before:

30 Forthar-class SSGN
4 Stortbek-class SSK
2 Royal Holly-class CVN
1 Royal Edmund-class CV
1 Rapier-class CVQ
1 Bastion-class BBGN
1 Council-class BBGN
5 Monarch-class BBG
11 Province-class CG
25 County-class DDG (AD)
26 City-class DDG (GP)
50 Furtive-class FFH
8 River-class K
3 Lord-class LHD
3 Ungforth-class LPD
3 Valley-class LSD
25 Flansburgh-class AOR
6 Aylesburgh-class AS
27 LCAC
18 LCM

Being that I'm certain you must have launched/dropped (are they bombs or missiles, I'm still not sure) up to a gazillion scramjet bombs (all the size of 500 lb bombs, you mentioned, so no glorious great big warheads on them as they still require fuel, especially as they're being dropped from about 200 km out.

And what I have now barring LCACs and LCMs as I just can't be bothered...

IC: RINN RRF

30 Forthar-class SSGN
4 Stortbek-class SSK
2 Royal Holly-class CVN
1 Royal Edmund-class CV (listing heavily, will likely be scuttled)
1 Rapier-class CVQ
1 Bastion-class BBGN (damaged)
1 Council-class BBGN
3 Monarch-class BBG (one not listed in the process of sinking)
8 Province-class CG
19 County-class DDG (AD)
16 City-class DDG (GP)
28 Furtive-class FFH
2 Lord-class LHD
1 Ungforth-class LPD
16 Flansburgh-class AOR
3 Aylesburgh-class AS

OOC: This discounts a fair measure of the 10,364 SAMs I used against your scramjet bombs, as my technology level is seriously lacking.

And as we're announcing each other's losses, your heavily-laden Interceptors were blown out of the sky through the combined effort of several naval air services. Ah, the smell of victory among the flames of defeat...

Oh, and now that I know ship dematerialisation-rematerialisation technology exists, my remaining limping fleet was transported thereby back to its homeport. Or those of an ally. Whichever you prefer.

OOC: Good post... :roll: Glad to see we're all being mature here...

Doujin, I don't recall you saying you had ships in any one area, all I saw from you was numbers...If you want me to recognize your ships you should at least tell me where they are, participate in the thread, and not just throw numbers everywhere....

From now on, contact me through TG instead of cluttering up the thread.

Everyone! Stop cluttering this thread! We have an OOC thread. Use it!

The TPAF was putting on a poor show. So General Rao reluctantly pulled them back further into Xinjiang and once again relied on SAM and AA defenses. The war itself was in the bag, he thought. Massive artillery bombardments daily struck anyone approaching Xinjiang, the defense systems were completed. Any strike made by the limited anti-Turk forces was doomed to failure. Redudant tunnel systems were made so that even if some were destroyed the Turks had a safe place to go.

In the water, command of the 270 ships of the TPN was left in the hands of the Shinoxians for now.

OOC:
*In 1990, Xinjiang was around 40% Han.
*I think it's somewhat fair to say that air superiority has been established.
IC:

With around three and a half thousand Taiwanese aircraft equipped in interdiction/superiority fitouts and another few hundred in air-to-ground roles, General Zhang was sure that the annoying remnants of the TPAF would be destroyed.

Daylam Occupied Xinjiang
Cruising at an altitude of 60,000 feet, well above the range of SAMs, Hundreds of Taiwanese aircraft begin bomb runs against the Daylami army below.

Some of the aircraft released ALARMs to make sure that enemy SAMs would not fire. The ALARMs would loiter for hours on end, opening a window for the ROCAF.

Other IDF-3s are armed with ground attack munitions. In the first wave, a group of 120 IDF-3s in ground attack configuration escorted by another 12 IDF-3s in air interdiction fitout drop 960,000lbs of assorted munitions (cluster bombs, JDAMs in airbust, napalm) against the retreating Daylami troops (were they? You said something about them retreating back into Xinjiang).

Ground battle
The Taiwanese troops continue to arrive, reinforcing the Hudecian front. A million Taiwanese troops are enroute.

The Skies Over Xinjiang

Cruising at a safe altitude of 50,000 feet, Alpha-Sierra-Niner-Five started its bombing run. The bomb bays slid open and for a short moment the Spirit was completely visible to almost all fire control radars in the area. 80 500lb JDAMs, crammed inside the bays, started to fall to the front lines of Daylami army, all aimed at the same target, two companies of Daylami infantry....

-Skies of Xinjiang-

Newly arrived Hudecian fighters are engaged in support roles of the Taiwanese strikes. Hudecian F-22s and F-36s try to stay out of Daylami anti-air range but stay close enough to support their allies in case Daylam tried to launch an assault.

-Anxi-

"Sir, the Taiwanese are moving a million more troops to the combat zone, the Sinoese have about 5 or 6 million, and we will have a million within a week." A young colonel reported to Commander Reid.

"Alright, as the new armour divisions arrive have them all refitted like we did with the others," Commander Reid ordered. "And get them to the front as soon as possible. .... Also, get to work on the psych-ops campaign."

-Skies over Xinjiang-

Newly arrived Hudecian fighters are engaged in support roles of the Taiwanese strikes. Hudecian F-22s and F-36s try to stay out of Daylami anti-air range but stay close enough to support their allies in case Daylam tried to launch an assault.

-Anxi-

"Sir, the Taiwanese are moving a million more troops to the combat zone, the Sinoese have about 5 or 6 million, and we will have a million within a week." A young colonel reported to Commander Reid.

"Alright, as the new armour divisions arrive have them all refitted like we did with the others," Commander Reid ordered. "And get them to the front as soon as possible. .... Also, get to work on the psych-ops campaign."

[Just here to remind you that I launched against your ships. I also need to know the number of ships you have pre-launch so I can know how many missiles I have left.]

I cant keep this going now I have to go somewhere, but like we have stated before, we will be ignoring any nation not previously involved in this conflict indefinatly (until Daylam gets back, which should be any day now...).

[I didn't launch against your ships and unless you're puppet wanking you don't speak for him. Furthermore, as the aggressors you don't have the right to IGNORE anything nor do you have the right to regulate who is invited into the conflict, expecially when you're (rightly) afraid you're going to get your collective asses kicked.]

It doesnt matter... if your talking to any nation on my 'side' then you have to know the things everyone in the thread has already agreed on.... that we would not recognize any newcomers in the RP untill Daylam got back. So maybe if you actually had been here from the beginning then you would know this and I wouldnt be so uptight on letting you RP.

You sound very sure of yourself.... to prove that im going to get my ass kicked why dont you actually RP it out instead of yelling things in OOC (which you tend to do alot, I guess your just so inmature you cant handle yourself).

Doujin, and Scandavian States.... youll have to actually stay with the RP instead of just coming in whenever you want and say 'your ships are surrounded' or whatever.

((P.S.- Sorry for the late post))

OOC (sorry, but I have to, and one thread is a good thing):
Pacific Northwesteria is willing to let you retreat with your naval forces, as long as they never re-enter it. They can go fight other wars, I don't care, but they can't help Daylam in China or return to prevent us from having complete naval superiority over the Gulf. If you want the fleet to come back, you're gonna have to go back, read the posts (like you keep yelling at everyone else about), and post losses. Your fleet wouldn't just be damaged by an attack like that-- A lot of your ships would be unable to fall back to port, as they would be under water. So as far as I'm concerned, the choice is yours. Pull out navally, for the rest of this (and related?) thread(s), or post your losses.
On another note, still looking for losses from the allied fighters and (from me alone) thousands of SAMs. These birds you were describing were big. And not maneuverable very quickly. Let's see some losses. As for me, you didn't attack my fleet, so I don't have to post any. You already have the losses from our side.
If you're in a gulf, and then other people show up, then they're going to be between you and the ocean unless you let them pass you and switch sides, which is highly unlikely given the fact that both fleets stopped when in missile range. So yes, you're surrounded. But I honestly don't care. Destroyed and rebuilt, or withdrawn from this thread and back in the next, I really don't care. Forced retreat is still defeat.

IC:
The forces under the extended command of Admiral Michaels in Granzian air bases in China were as follows:
310 MiG-29 Fulcrum (naval) carrier fighters
210 Su-33 fighter-bombers (naval)
100 F-109D fighters
20 Sea Hawk gun ships
30 DD-1 A
10 DD-1 B
45 B-2 Spirit Bombers

They had been released from their carriers/airbases earlier, and were now eager to help the Hudecians in any way they could. Admiral Michaels sent a secure message to the allies in China:
Air support has arrived. Willing to give some of your vigilant CAP pilots some much-needed rest. 620 modern fighters will patrol in 3 shifts. More will be called up if action increases. All will keep far enough away (mostly vertically) from most SAMs. The remaining SAMs will be large, and require radar lock. HARMS will extinguish this threat before it gets to launch.
With these fighters up and their choke hold over Xinjiang airspace, my bombers (75 of them), with a total payload that is classified, but is at least:
60 MK84 2000-pound
60 GBU-10 Paveway II
60 GBU-12 Paveway II
60 GBU-27 Paveway III
60 BLU 109
60 WCMD
60 Mark 61
180 DDS-1 AAM/AMST
(delivered at Mach 4.5) (stealth)
as well as
1,600,000 pounds of dumb bombs, including cluster bombs and napalm.
200,000 pounds of precision-guided bombs, including JDAMs
(delivered at fast subsonic) (stealth)
The fighters (first shift) and bombers have taken off, the bombers circling to gain altitude and to give the fighters time to secure the area. They would be done well before the fighters of the first shift had to return to base to refuel. It seemed like the decimation of the Daylami forces was at hand, but one could never be sure.

[edit: sorry I didn't remember this. The B-2s have a ceiling of about 50,000 feet, and the DD-1... well, it doesn't give a number, but I would guess about 80,000 feet. Doujin is welcome to tell me otherwise.]

[DM: Here's how I see it, and tell me if I'm wrong anywhere. I entered into this conflict at the request of someone who has been in this fight for a while, that follows etiquette pretty well. Now, I understood, and still understand, that your allies' fleets are in the Gulf while my allies' fleets are outside of it, if I'm wrong here then I screwed up from the get-go and need to revise my opening RP. Now, he says he has/had 331 ships in the Gulf, I alone have 396 combat ships (372 without subs) blocking his exit from the Gulf, never mind the 600+ ships Doujin has or any of the ships my allies have in-theatre. Now, I don't mind him trying to fight his way out if he can do it, but his insisting that he somehow got past all of us is rediculous. However, my real beef is his lack of losses from my missiles, I fired before he even typed up his supposed withdrawal, his losses from an aircraft engagement that had nothing to do with me isn't cutting it. I'm as anxious as you are to get on with this, but the problem needs to be resolved.]

[DM: Here's how I see it, and tell me if I'm wrong anywhere. I entered into this conflict at the request of someone who has been in this fight for a while, that follows etiquette pretty well. Now, I understood, and still understand, that your allies' fleets are in the Gulf while my allies' fleets are outside of it, if I'm wrong here then I screwed up from the get-go and need to revise my opening RP. Now, he says he has/had 331 ships in the Gulf, I alone have 396 combat ships (372 without subs) blocking his exit from the Gulf, never mind the 600+ ships Doujin has or any of the ships my allies have in-theatre. Now, I don't mind him trying to fight his way out if he can do it, but his insisting that he somehow got past all of us is rediculous. However, my real beef is his lack of losses from my missiles, I fired before he even typed up his supposed withdrawal, his losses from an aircraft engagement that had nothing to do with me isn't cutting it. I'm as anxious as you are to get on with this, but the problem needs to be resolved.]

Well... you dont have to say requested you, but if it is Doujin... then you saying he is following the etiquette well is not true. As you can see, he never really posts in the thread, and when he does, he just expects everything to count.

Me and Daylam have our fleets in there too, I believe.... which makes it a total of 500+ ships.

I guess its ok if you stay and RP....even though I dont remember you RPing your entrance, and giving your ships adaquet enough time to get here. (You may have, im not accusing you of anything)

[No it wasn't Doujin, he was following the same invite that I was. I'd have to look in the OMP boards, but I know it wasn't Doujin. I'm also allied with Taiwan through the Council of Air Powers and he was requesting help as well.]

OOC: Not trying to be picky, but can everyone refrain from bringing their entire alliance into this please...

IC

FireBase 30
Daylami Occupied Xinjiang

After moving from the Western Front to Xinjiang, Shinoxian forces were already beginning an attack.

Lt. Robert Davis orderd warriors into APCs, and tried to make sure everything started off clean.

"Load up, come on" he ordered "make sure all guns are in safty mode, no misfires."

Three Shinoxian Divisions, 84,000 warriors would be attacking shortly.

They faced down an enemy with millions of men, thinking they had the upperhand.

The Shinoxians were outnumbered about 20 to 1.

Good odds.

As APCs began to roll out, soldiers were anxious to finally battle these Chinese foes.

They didn't expect much.

All Shinoxian attacks were preceded by a massive missile and artillery bombardment, because Shinoxian planes in Daylam were limited, they would be supported on the ground by Daylami A-10s.

SX1-Cherokee Missile Launchers rolled into position, men loaded V5-Bad Neighbor Missiles (http://www.onera.fr/conferences/ramjet-scramjet-pde/images/modern-ramjet-missile.jpg) down into the Launchers.

A few minutes later, the missiles were heard streaking past.

May their enemies tremble, the Shinoxians were coming.

OOC: Shinoxia, you do know that your forces will be committing suicide right? My forces, numbering about 132,000, have been sitting in Anxi since the beginning of the war, spending that time making constant air raids and improving fortifications. Your troops will be facing a well-entrenched foe with overwhelming air superiority. Not to mention Hudecia, _Taiwan, and the other coalition armies in the general area.

Also, since I have been the recipient of numerous Daylami missile strikes, anti-missile systems have been built up considerably.

IC:

Since the time when Granzian troops arrived in the border city of Anxi, the Camp Genovas had changed considerably. A sea of drab olive tents used to cover the earth, but had since been replaced by more permanent structures. The total number of men had doubled, and spent the long day toiling out at the outer defenses. The images were replicated at the two other camps circling Anxi.

Rows of barbed wire stretched for miles either way, crossing the main road, then circling around to enclose the entire facility. Several miles of trenches had been dug in the sandy soil, and were supported by steel and timber. Sandbags lay piled in entrenchments, backed with machine guns and small bore artillery up to 75mm. Batteries of heavier guns lay partially submerged under armored covering overhead. Command had even taken the trouble to ship out tons of concrete to construct armored bunkers, housing personnel and weapons. Entrances to bomb shelters peeked out of shadowy tunnels. Every aspect of the area had been proofed twice, and aircraft flew routine sorties.

General Demark was in his tent, sleeping the noontime siesta away, when his guards barged in. “Sir, several flights of enemy missiles have been detected coming in from the north. Shall we ready the HAMDS system?”

Demark quickly blinked the sleep out of his eyes and rose out of his bunk. “Yes, of course. Scramble all the fighters and load the launchers as quickly as possible. Notify the Defense Crews and get everyone else into the shelters. I’ll come as soon as possible to Command Central.” The sergeant hurried off.

In less than a minute’s time, swarms of small Stingray Interceptor Missiles (SIMs) streaked out and flew upwards. Guided by laser precision targeting and 3-D terrain forming radar, they agilely seeked out their prey. Firebird fighters winged into the fray launching their payloads while staying a safe distance from the aerial threat. Hundreds of fireballs lit up the sky, and not a single enemy missile was allowed to strike.

General Demark rightly attributed this to a Shinoxian advance, and relaying on intel photos, ordered the finalization and activation of the defenses. Last minute obstacles were placed and the minefields laid. A retaliatory flight of several cruise missiles was launched against armored columns in the Shinoxian army.

"They are what?" Commander Reid must admit he was a little shocked by this turn of events.

"They are attacking us... " the equally confused Colonel repeated. "They have some support from A-10s.."

Commander Reid lifted his eyebrow puzzled. "Well dispatch our newly arrived fighters to wipe them out. But hold back a reserve of at least half a million in case this is not the real offensive. Deploy 100 000 to support Granzi troops. Knowing Daylam they have an ulterior plan."

Guys...radical shift in RP that should make my enemies extremely happy.

see this thread and join up for it

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=152954

OOC: I'm finally back from an unexpected weekend outing! Yes, for now I'm free to RP! Now, what the hell happened since I was gone?

IC:

UPon hearing the news of Daylami Air Forces being pulled back, the Sinoese Army and Marines were given only one order- a major ground offensive known as Operation: Broomstick. Huge armies were driving deeper into enemy territories with close air support and WS-1Bs, never seem to run out of ammo, distant targets were struck before reoccupation was made.

The Sinoese units were particularly brutal towards any Daylami 'settlers' as they were often barricaded into tiny huts (with all entrances and exits sealed) then being burnt to a crisp by flamethrowers.

Bands of Chinese civilians were gathered into the Sinoese effort to fight off these subhumans.

http://english.pladaily.com.cn/special/uniforms/content/image/zxf-5.jpg
Above: A Sinoese soldier watches on with a smile as Daylami were burnt alive in a huge blaze.

Sino....please see what I posted above.

Sino....please see what I posted above.

I don't want to hear any more number wanking from you! Your F-35s got defeated due to the overconfidence of idling AWACS and that is final!

You idjit. Im talking about the other thread.

You idjit. Im talking about the other thread.

DILIGAFF? (Does it look like I give a flying f*ck?) I don't care if every man, woman and child in Daylam gets fed into meat grinders, I want my Xinjiang it is mine!

This thread will not be used for military actions anymore. Please go to the other IC thread and RP your attacks on Xinjiang. Anything else said in here will be ignored.

I think that Sino was out of line, but I think that Daylam is out of line too. Not that anyone will care. Anyways... There's still a battle in the Gulf, remember? Last time I checked, anyway. And Daylam, you never responded to my launching of planes earlier, so you can take the losses now from your scrambling mutinied soldiers, to help mop up the mess that once was the Daylami Army. Just a suggestion.

I think that Sino was out of line, but I think that Daylam is out of line too. Not that anyone will care. Anyways... There's still a battle in the Gulf, remember? Last time I checked, anyway. And Daylam, you never responded to my launching of planes earlier, so you can take the losses now from your scrambling mutinied soldiers, to help mop up the mess that once was the Daylami Army. Just a suggestion.

Meh, my naval forces are withdrawing from this theater, as I really don't have anything against Shinoxia and Dancing Moose. Daylam's navy has turned on itself, so there really is no point in staying as any more action will be pointless. Ground warfare will be shifted to the new thread as well.