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OOC3: Losses? Since when has anyone posted losses? Xiaguo posted his in the first battle of Hami (so did I) but no one posted anything else.

Hmm... I posted losses from your first missile strike. I haven't posted any others because you have not responded to my attacks except for: "The F-22s had a field day." What about my first strike?

OOC: Granzi I seem to have forgotten your first one. Considering the overwhelming numerical superiority I have I would still have a ton of F-22s that could easily overwhelm a second wave. What page was the first strike on so I can post losses from it?

Page 11:

Silently, hundreds of B-2 bombers and F-117 Nighthawks sweep in from the southeast. Radar silence is strictely enforced. They were the first to strike Daylami positions and knock out as many SAM and AA batteries as possible. Their cargo bays are filled to capacity with precision and laser-guided bombs. Cruise missiles are launched from aerial platforms above Granzi-controlled territory. This time they are guided with satellite imagery from overhead.

As the first missiles hit the ground, the pilots begin. In turn, squadrons of 12 aircraft swing lower, dip just slightly, and releases the ordinance carried. In groups, the bombs fall toward their targets, and the formation insures an almost uninterrupted hail of explosives.

A swarm of Firebird fighters arrives soon after to provide air cover and turn to engage any enemy aircraft...

This is followed by the second wave and another cruise missile strike. The Firebirds were there to fight of any Rapters that approached.

Some problems with that...

1. How do you have hundreds of B-2s/other aircraft? These things are extremely expensive
2. Where are they coming from?
3. That many bombers will be detected no matter how stealth they are. SAMs would open up immediately on the defenseless bombers.
4. The sheer number of F-22s will penetrate and destroy them, you simply arent big enough to compete with me.

1. I can afford them, I have a Powerhouse economy and so do you. There are numerous storefront that sell RL stuff for cheap.
2. Southeast from my bases in Gansu.
3. That's why I sent in a cruise missile strike first. Than the bombers came.
4. Yes I am. Check out the stats of the Firebird fighter at my storefront. (Sales rights purchased from Zoogie.) http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=143685

First of all, your cruise missiles will be deflected by my missile shield, just as mine were off of yours.
Second of all, you have a few bases in Gansu, I have millions of men with thousands upon thousands of planes. I think the F-22s will win, dude.
Thirdly of all, I concede that you can have the B-2s. But you cant have hundreds of them popping up out of nowhere. These suckers are going to be detected.

Hmm.

Xiaguo quickly tries to move out of Xinjinag and back to Central CHina.
Casualties were among the retreat which many were killed by Daylami's militia forces.

There, and now I cannot RP a lot this week so I'm moving my forces out of Xinjinag. I'll be back. :evil:

Hey Xiaguo look at the Daylami request for peace I gave some very generous terms. Its on the 2nd page I believe.

I don't see it.

I bumped it to the first page now. h/o and I will link it

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=147814

Some problems with that...

1. How do you have hundreds of B-2s/other aircraft? These things are extremely expensive
2. Where are they coming from?
3. That many bombers will be detected no matter how stealth they are. SAMs would open up immediately on the defenseless bombers.
4. The sheer number of F-22s will penetrate and destroy them, you simply arent big enough to compete with me.

OOC:

1. Is that an insult on Sino's economic strength? What about your hundred of cruise missiles?

2. Stationed in Xiaguo.

3. Haha! SAMs targetting visually at stealth aircraft. Ocassionally a steatlh bogie may get picked up by AWACS but that all.

4. F-22s at suicidally close ranges where they can see each other? I don't think so. As for your pathetic F-22s, we have seeked to develop detection against their pathetic stealth.

Secondly of all, the Uygurs are Turks. They hated being under communism.

OOC: Then explain that eyeburning hammer and sickle in your flag?

OOC 2: At least the Chinese were bothered to develop the area and better the lives of their subjects unlike the Daylami Taliban that just wish to feast on the resources of the land and the flesh of our people.

OOC2: Taiwan, I see what you are trying to do, nice try, you are going to be the aggressor if you really must fight me, not me.

Daylami radar picks up the Taiwanese B-52 fairly quickly. "Sir, should I shoot it down." is radioed to General Rao.
"No, leave it up in the air. We aren't going to be fooled by this attempt to goad Daylam into war with Taiwan. We can't afford it and we won't be the aggressor in this. Just leave it be until it begins to drop its payload, and then inform me."

OOC: Smart :D :D
OOC2: Can everyone post what they have in the area?

(3,000+ combat aircraft in Beijing and Chengdu, not including support aircraft)

"General, they're not firing." the pilot said, still wearing a parachute and kevlar vests.
"Well, they didn't take the bait. Get back to base and start scrubbing the floors."
"Yessir."

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"Right, that didn't work." Chiang muttered.
"I can see that." Zhang said, with a tone of annoyance.
"I have another idea. Employ one of the dead militia as one of our diplomats......

A new computer entry was created for a Chin Wen, one of the dead militias, who was now 'officially' the Taiwanese foreign minister doing some obscure job. Now all that remained was the newspaper article.

OOC: Heheh. Im trying to wrap this up in a peace conference Taiwan. Ive got alot of stuff on my hands and Ive given up a bunch for the anti-Daylam coalition so I can wrap this up.

OOC: Dammit! Stop running from my provocations!

OOC: Hah! Ill not be a target for the flexing of your military muscle yet. Please see the peace treaty thread I made. :lol:

OOC2: Taiwan, I see what you are trying to do, nice try, you are going to be the aggressor if you really must fight me, not me.

OOC: Look who's talking!

Sino, I assure you this is not the case. The Turks of Xinjiang are to be given every available right under the TPQD. If you will look at the peace terms I have offered in the other thread, a percentage of all profits and a percentage of all Xinjiang resources will be diverted to the coalition along with a war indemnity.

We will not compromise our land for a humiliating peace. The turks of Xinjiang prospered under China. There may be a conference but it will be a waste of effort. Sino will take whatever is necessary to rid Xinjiang off your subhuman scourge!

I assure you the peace being proposed is far more humiliating to Daylam than to the Han.

OOC: Smart :D :D
OOC2: Can everyone post what they have in the area?

(3,000+ combat aircraft in Beijing and Chengdu, not including support aircraft)

Air:

- 2000 fighters
- 400 H-8 bombers
- Undisclosed numbers of support aircraft

Ground:

- 3 million infantry (all mechanized)
- 15,000 tanks (mostly Type 98s)
- Undisclosed quantities of ballistic missiles (varying ranges)
- 400 "Modewits" (Mobile Deployable Wind Turbines) to provide power (sufficient winds in the geography)

Naval:

- ARSN 3rd Pacific Fleet (Bo Hai)
- Undisclosed numbers of missile subs

Space:

- Countless spy-sats
- Two sat-silos of ICBMs over the area (if fired, impossible to intercept)


Most air bases and missile sites are located in the provinces that border Xinjiang.

Hmm.

Xiaguo quickly tries to move out of Xinjinag and back to Central CHina.
Casualties were among the retreat which many were killed by Daylami's militia forces.

There, and now I cannot RP a lot this week so I'm moving my forces out of Xinjinag. I'll be back. :evil:

OOC: _Taiwan and I can RP your forces for you.

Secondly of all, the Uygurs are Turks. They hated being under communism.

OOC: Then explain that eyeburning hammer and sickle in your flag?

OOC 2: At least the Chinese were bothered to develop the area and better the lives of their subjects unlike the Daylami Taliban that just wish to feast on the resources of the land and the flesh of our people.

OOC: Do I have to quote myself to get some answers?

Great you do that. As you can see, I've stated that Xiaguo will not accept the terms if Sino and _Taiwan doesn'y agree, I guess Xiaguo will still carry on with the whole thing. :P

However, if you let Xinjiang stay with us, we'll give you a year free supply of Tic-Tacs!


Ground Forces-
3.2 Million stationed in Nei Mongolia, Central China, and Xinjiang/Borders.
10,000 TYPE 98's, due to the trade pact with Sino.
2 bases in Western Xinjiang, contains ballistic, short range missiles, and some quantities of longer ranged missiles.

Air-
3,000 Fighters S-37 SUKHOI BERKUT, F-16'S
600 TUPOLEV TU-16'S

Navy-
A few carriers ready in the South China Sea.
At lease 22 battleships, and frigates accompanying the carriers.

lol, Space-
At least 4 Spy Satelites


All Ground Forces are to be scheduled to be controlled by Sino and Taiwanese Millitary Governments on Wednesday.

Secretly IC:

Tit for tat battles rage between Sinoese and Daylami forces as Sino's barely impressive hit and run attacks into Daylami-occupied Xinjiang.

Liu stands before a wall of TV screens, each broadcasting from the webcam on a soldier's helmet or a vehicle's sights.General Liu watches the action of his troops as a benefit of having entirely digitized units. Some were shot dead and their cameras stalled to waste battery filming a useless section of sky.

He watched as a Type 98 scoring a direct hit of APFSDS on a Daylami APC. He imagines the fate of the hostiles inside, struggling for air as the shell comes in one side and comes out via the other, draining away all the air leavign lungs dry to the point of death. Blood splattering the insides a a few crewmen had been pierces and severed by the sheer force.

As a man of his warfare wisdom, he only needs to hear the crack of a rifle to tell its bore or the thunder of missile to tell its origins. He ponders on as he changes to watch a different screen. A Sinoese sector had been breeched, but poorly. More defenders than attackers. A Sinoese sergeant unfolds his bayonet, approaching a wounded towelhead and thrusting the blade deep into his enemy's heart. Liu smiled at the sight of a helpless Daylami choking and gasping as the cold steel is inserted into its chest before the sergeant gives his rifle a twist to release it.

It will be a tough war, the only method is to fight with encroachment. The Turks may be violent, but they lack the culture and morale of the Chinese; barbarian invaders that China has defeated many times before.

He switches a few channels to see a different sector where Sinoese troops have managed to occupy a few villages in the desert.

Xiannese forces are scheduled to be sent to Sino and Taiwanese forces to control, tommorow.

In the Central Plains
Thrust your bayonet forward!Twist the bayonets. Jerk backward and setep back postion, duck. Thrust you bayonets! Pull back ward with face at side. Stand, forward march..

As Jo Jin Ke trains his troops vigorously, orders were that his troops will be put under command by Liu, and Zhang. The central Commander will be gone for foreign affairs briefing and will not be back for some time. Hopefully all his work will be accomplished by the following weekend.

"This war is not only to keep Xinjiang united under Chinese rule, but it is also against, Imperialism, Separatism, and Western dirt. They hadn't heed our specifications on the treaties and word has, that our government has rejected the treaty and instead increased war funding. This war has not only helped our economy, but created a national unity and we have our spirits to thank. "

"Many grace upon our Nation, our Country, our Allies. Let the Lord Buddha and the triple gems shine on the gracious motherland and homage of our allies. We have nothing to worry about except the fufillment of our duties. Keep united under our motherland. Fight the Turks, uphold the will."
And General Jo steps off. This was another weekly briefing used to beef up the morals of the fighting men and women.

OOC:Jo is a Devout Buddhist.
OOC1:For sure I will not be available to rp any battles or long time things, I will be busy on reports and homework. Please, _Taiwan, and Sino may control my foces, please do not RP in my government and stuff. Thank you.

(Xinhua)
Taiwanese diplomat murdered in Xinjiang
...a Taiwanese diplomat was murdered in Xinjiang by pro-turk rebels...

Millitary control has shifted under the Taiwanese and Sinoese Millitary Governments.



OOC: I'll be back soon. Meanwhile, I can post somethings but generally I have little time to spare. :)

(Xinhua)
Taiwanese diplomat murdered in Xinjiang
...a Taiwanese diplomat was murdered in Xinjiang by pro-turk rebels...

Although Sino does not recognise Taiwan or the diplomat's status, an attack on the Chinese is still an attack on Sino! War on the subhumans 'til the bitter end!

With Hudecia's withdrawl from the conflict in Drapol, the government issues a strong denunciation of the failure of Daylam's troops to withdraw from Xinjiang.

Hudecian fighters are already stationed near Xinjiang.

With no diplomatic solution in sight for the traditionally ultra-nationalist Chinese forces, the already massive defenses built into Xinjiang are increased a hundredfold. Literally dozens of miles of defensive works are made, starting with the frontline to the east of Hami, around Lop Lake and north of the Kunlun mountains. When they were finished, all of Xinjiang would be turned into a gigantic fortress for Daylam to defend against numerous foes. The generous terms given by Daylam to the Chinese scum had been refused, and so they would have to pry the Turks out of every last inch of their ancestral homeland. Uygur guerrillas had already been trained and ready under the FSTX, and would be put into action as soon as the first centimeter of Xinjiang soil was re-taken by Chinese forces..
General Rao and Kül Tigin II supervised the construction as millions of Turks got to work. With the possible advent of Taiwanese military might being thrown into the conflict, a titanic defensive battle seemed likely, with much loss of life for the Chinese scum, should they choose to advance.

To: _Taiwanese Foreign Ministry
From: Hudecian Pacific Military Command

Dear Sir,

With the recent Hudecian withdrawl from the Drapol conflict it has left our military with over a quarter million troops, thousands of armoured vehicles and artillery as well as over 2000 assorted fighters and bombers. Naturally it would cost far too much to transport these troops and equipment back the Hudecia proper after such a short operation.

Hence we are consulting our allies about possible arrangements that could be made for these troops and their equipment.

-Admiral Smetka

"Please sign this, General." His secretary asked.

"It's Corporal!" Liu reminds him, pointing to the epaulets. "Have you forgotten where we are?"

"Sino is the arsenal of China."

"Indeed, soldier. We have no choice but to forcibly take over the industrial facilities left in the former PRC for the sake of our race's survival" Liu reminds his fellow about the plan as he signs. "We must churn out the tanks, the artilleries and aircraft by their millions, using what remains in China."

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"What the f*ck are you doing!" A communist factory supervisor could not bare the fact that Sinoese troops have enetered into the workshops and compounds, in a remote part of Qinghai.

"Capt. Chen Ya Ning, ARSA 55th Engineering Battalion. Your plant, or should we say, your government's is under Sinoese management. No more silly questions."

"You can't do that! I'll call the Chairman and the mayor!"

"Soldiers, take him away." Capt. Chen have no more business with the communist scum, he cannot believe that a fellow of his race still practices this outdated ideology.

"I'll get the Qinghai Red Guards on you!" The fat man shouted as he was being overpowered by two Sinoese privates.

"Your red bandit leaders are nothing but turds." Chen's words were of dry humor but quenching in knowledge.

"SIR, Sgt. Shi Cheng reporting for duty!" The Captain switches over to the call on his digitized helmet, it was one of his subordinates, inside the factory.

"Come in, soldier."

"Sir, this is an old car plant. It can manufacture from trucks right down to bicycles."

"Good work soldier. Just as I thought." Chen did not want to hear anymore. Tomorrow, the supplies and plans will roll in.

Later that day, he addressed all his 'workers', "for once in decades, you deserve your much needed pay."

By late afternoon, the sign on the gate read "UNDER ARSA MANAGEMENT"

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Sino also operates into the weaker parts of China, destroying what remains of communism in the remote areas.

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Secretly IC:

To: All Chinese-supporting parties.
From: ARSCF Supreme Commander Gen. Liu
Subject: Charge!

Dear Allies


There is no choice for us, but to devote the industries of China to this war, better yet, we have the strength, but lack the co-ordination. A combined strike is necessary to retake our land.

Yours


Liu

As Chinese Patriotic Songs played, Ye and some officials arriving back from a Chinese Summit now is ready to take charge of the armies and programs.


Xiaguo's factories have already been put under government control. War Industries Boards are managing all these tasks and all railroads are now under direct Government control. All of these are part of the Xiannese Constitution, 'Much like the US'. Most of the factory owners and people are willing to not eat meat on Tuesdays, no bread Wednesdays, No sugar on Fridays, or willing to give up their factories. Whatever the Industries make, the governm,ent will pay back to the factory owners. SO it all works out, and don't contridict my points, I have examples and I'll prove it. :P


Troops from the Xiaguo number to 4 million and are in defensive positions near the Bordering regions of Xinjiang. Opposition forces are expected in Xinjinag, never the less, a plan will be made.

"Da Jia Hao,
Constitutional Republic of Xiaguo, Long Live! We today begin the first Daylam Denouncing Class. May all welcome the speaker, Da Chu Kou.
Ni hao, nia hao, da jia, I have many things to talk about. Daylam, is only a paper tiger. No harm well done. The white pillows top of their heads are only signs for our marksmen. *Gentle Laughter*Their blood, their thick thick hot blood cannot match our boiling sweat, blood, and anger. Their race is a pity upon Mercy of the Xiannese People."

They smell like Shi* and they fight like mongrel in a pigs pen. We would slaughter them all. Thier race has no nationality but a bunch of garbage unwilling to be represented. This, pity pity race, speaking as a Turkish nation, but does not represent the ideas and appearances of one. We must redeem this land.

As another steps up to the stage,
"The bloody mongrels. They should **** offand leave our homeland. They stench and stain our beloved red east and they till the fields with their waste....."

A propaghanda machine is on its way while thousands of town centers, squares, schools begin holding scheduled meetings, campaignes, events to denounce Daylam and its nation of 'fowled' men.



SECRET IC
Allies:
-Xiaguo War Progress and Planning Board
Is going through Tibet possible and likely to widen the front? We do not have to capture Hami, but some likely towns and cities near the border. We can easily swallow each by each and simply fortify the new territories.

Sinoese forces present will allow the movement of ally troops into Qinghai and Tibet.

Hand delivered message from the Joshuan Embassy in Sino to the Sinoese liason officer for the embassy.


From: Admiral Joshua Chamberlain; Minister of Defense
To: General Liu; ARSFC Commander



With the recent withdrawal of over 500,000 battle hardened Joshuan soldiers and marines from the dra-pol threatre and the availablility of thousands of combat aircraft plus our very substantial Navy, perhaps we could be of assistance to you in combating the illegal invasions of the rogue and outlaw nation of the terrorists of Daylam?

Our reserves are already mobilized from the dra-pol conflict and we stand ready to assist you by forward deployments into Qinghai and Tibet.

edit: ps to letter. We have strong reason to beleive that Daylam will soon face a 2 front war with a 2nd front opening on his home soil shortly.

OOCThe War goes on. It'll be historical to have both fronts at Daylam. Much like WWI, Daylam's troops, loike Germany will have to fight both side, cutting half of the millitary to single out both sides.

To: _Taiwanese Foreign Ministry
From: Hudecian Pacific Military Command

Dear Sir,

With the recent Hudecian withdrawl from the Drapol conflict it has left our military with over a quarter million troops, thousands of armoured vehicles and artillery as well as over 2000 assorted fighters and bombers. Naturally it would cost far too much to transport these troops and equipment back the Hudecia proper after such a short operation.

Hence we are consulting our allies about possible arrangements that could be made for these troops and their equipment.

-Admiral Smetka

To: Admiral Smetka
From: General Zhang Fu Guo

Dear Admiral,

As you may already know, there is a situation developing in Xinjiang. Your military forces may use Taiwanese-owned infrastructure on the mainland free of charge to reach the battlefront.

-General Zhang, Head of ROCA

Open Letter to all Allied Forces near Xinjiang

Hudecian marines, after a serious deployment in Drapol, will be moving near the Xinjiang province in order to maintain security.

We reiterate that the government of Hudecia recognizes Xinjiang as being part of a unified China.

Admiral Smetka

"Hudecia had joined quick. We'll soon drive the turks out of Hami and then Daylami troops shall be under constant reliable distress." A comment made by President Wu during a phone call to the allied headquarters.





Secret IC
"Good Morning" as Yeh comes into the Allied Headquarters somewhat near the border.

"I have just received word that Magdha might be opening another front in this war."

"Here," *hands a note to General Liu and Zhang.

The Maharajate of Magdha
Received: 12 hours ago
Daylam is becoming a Threat to Magdhan security, we will assist you by invading him via Kashmir if you want us to.

"I have already gave him permission to invade Daylam as for our Magdha-China Treaty which kept him from interfering with our affairs in China. If its alright, please, sign below this slip."

A similiar slip had been sent via telegram to all allies.

Magdha hopefully will open the other side, then we will be able to send troops on both fronts. Not to mention, Daylam will have to scatter troops to both sides.

Secret Message to Allied Members
[code:1:ef902e5e67]If you give me permission I will crush Daylam by invading his side of Kashmir. I want to be sure I have your support and blessing before I do so.[/code:1:ef902e5e67]

OOC: Ok, first of all Xiaguo, I have encircled and destroyed atleast 1.8 million men of your entire military with massive casualties (fleeing into T-90s isnt a good strategy), so I highly doubt your populace is raring for more war, and I also highly doubt you still have 4 million men anywhere near Xinjiang.
Second of all, POJ, since when do you have forward deployments in Qinghai and Tibet?
Third of all, you all are aware that only half of my total military is deployed in Xinjiang (4.4 million men). Magdha opening another front will not lower my troop numbers in Xinjiang by any amount.
And before you count on Maghda, he has a poor record in relation to godmodding, even worse than me, and I will tell you that I will only tolerate the first few "We decimate your men, break through, and capture huge amounts of territories" before I fire the ignore cannon. However, if he RPs right or only a little godmodding (which he corrects when it is pointed out), Ill be glad to fight two fronts.
That being said, I hope your men don't value their lives too highly as they charge into the teeth of a warrior race's best defenses! :lol:
IC

Still the laborers worked, building line after line after line of redundant defenses, assisted by Uygur laborers and pro-Han POWs put to work, work progressed fast. Rao and Tigin II were highly impressed by these defenses, manned by some of the fiercest soldiers in history.

In Kashmir: Ominous signs were reported in the formerly friendly Maharaja's domain. Kashmir, already highly fortified by Pakistani forces, its defenses were taken over, reinforced, and extended, just in case. Daylami intelligence showed that something was afoot, the question was what. To say General Ali was nervous was an understatement.

OOC: I have to agree with Daylam, Magdha does not have a good reputation with the Commonwealth, especially after the "incidents" stemming from FWS. I'll be fine with Magdha invading has long as there are no more attrocities performed. Though Daylam may eventually be the enemy, we hope there will be no more repeats of the actions in Pakistan.

Daylam, I still can not understand how you can field such an army. Are you saying 4.4 million men are in Xinjiang and that's only half of the army? Even 4.4 million is a little overdoing it, as you would need to supply them, etc. and that would mean you would have no airforce or navy. Could you explain?

Secret IC: Granzian forces begin packing up and leaving. Large amounts of equipment and supplies arrive in Lanzhou and the supply depots. So far, the only people who know their destination are in Central Command.

OOC: Total Military Size: 23,880,000
Total Army Size: 14,556,800
Army Field Personnel: 8,885,748
Total Nazy Size (ridiculously small, Daylam has no official coastline, though we can use the Iranian one if need be): 716,400
Total Air Force Size:8,358,000
Total Marine Corps Size:238,800
% in the Army: 61
% in the Navy: 3
% in the Air Force: 35
% in the Marine Corps: 1
% of pop in Military: 4

Yes, I do have millions of men, a tiny navy and marine corps, and a somewhat small Air Force, a powerful economy without military strain, a pretty much imploded one with military strain, and hundreds of billions of dollars from the auction of land to burn threw before I get into critical condition and have to downsize.

OOC2: This is the same message I gave to the other people, and I hope it silences your questions about my military.

OOC: Could you also provide a map of Daylam?

OOC2: Yes, I also agree with Daylam and Granzi regarding Maghda.

IC:

(Taipei Times)

...In the biggest show of force since the Chinese Civil War, the ROCN held a massive live-ammunition exercise near the Pescadores, involving 40 vessels...

Secret IC:

Taiwanese aircraft in Central China now number 10,000, almost guranteeing air superiority in the event of war.

[code:1:c2fac51abe] To Daylam: We are not really planning on war with you, we have heard rumors that you wanted revenge for Pakistan and we are merely taking precautions. We ask though that you limit hostilities to the current combatants and refrain from deliberatley attacking civillians.[/code:1:c2fac51abe]

ooc: I'm serious

[code:1:c2fac51abe] Are all allied states in agreement with me attacking daylam as part of the allied forces? Until Taiwan goes to war I will not open the second front.[/code:1:c2fac51abe]

OOC: Daylam is located completely in RL. Our capital is at Samarkand, the capital of RL Uzbekistan.

Daylam's borders are as follows: Northern Iran, western and northern Afghanistan, Pakistani Kashmir, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Kazakhstan, The Canaries, and East Turkestan (Xinjiang)

OOC2: I am only planning on a half-hearted effort to fight it out in the air. The massive amount of AA weaponry (TA-1s, which are basically Stingers that can hit higher planes and weigh slightly more) is the TPQD's
IC

[code:1:c9d529b2c2] To: The Maharajate
We thank you for refraining from attacking. We can assure you that civilian atrocities will be limited to the pro-Han coalition, and that the TPQD will respect.[/code:1:c9d529b2c2]

The Armed Repbulic of Sino sees no objection to Magdha's invasion of Daylam, provided that it takes no action to invade Chinese territories.

Let it be noted that the Armed Republic of Sino has no part in provoking Magdha's attack on Daylam.

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Meawhile, Sinoese industries have begun churning out more tanks, artilleries, vehicles and aircraft. The workers toil through their normal eight hours, followed by another shift- three shifts total in one day. A true example of Chinese efficiency. Sinoese reservists have been called to battle.

http://www.sinodefence.com/army/tank/type96_3.jpg

OOC: Do you guys realize that I have simply sat in Xinjiang, occupying it with only a few annihilated attacks from Xiaguo to disrupt it? The resources of Xinjiang would be at my disposal for sometime now. You also realize the suicidal attacks you will be forced into against my long, long prepared defenses?

OOC: Ever heard of the "calm before the storm?" But don't worry, we will do something. Just merely rallying my allies. :wink:

OOC: That's the same thing Saddam thought during the 1st Gulf War...

Military defences are not much good in this modern age. Wars tend to be more liquid as opposed to the static wars of the early 20th century. Even the strongest fortifications are not much good nowadays.

In any case... we can just use artillery, air superiority and tanks to level your defences.

OOC: Which is why I have AA, AT, and artillery of my own to support my defenses. Have you ever read an account of the Battle of Kursk? :D

OOC: Have you heard of the Magnot line? (Maginot? Did I spell it wrong?)

OOC: Also, can you start an OOC thread?

The Last Strike

12:00 A.M
They were everywhere. Prowlers, the pride of the TPAF, EA-6B, began their first wave. They moved out over the trenches, barbwire, and foxholes of the Xinjiang/China Proper border and armed their HARM missiles. Their targets were the airbases of the ATPC (what the TPQD is referring to the coalition as, standing for anti-Turkic People's Coalition), located in Xizhang, Gansu, Nei Mongolia, and any other one's inside their range. Taiwanese airbases would not be targeted as official war was not declared between them. Sinoese, Xiannese, and especially Granzi airbases were supposed to be brought to their knees by this strike.

EA-6Bs flew over these airbases, and immediatly the ATPC radars were located. HARM missiles moved in immediately, slamming into the best SAM defenses the ATPC had. Boom boom, SAM after SAM was hit by HARMs. HARMs were not all. The EA-6Bs also had complicated jamming equipment, and this was brought to bear on all ATPC airbases.

As the last HARM missile hit the last Granzi SAM, another happened. Massive numbers of Tomahawks and TLAMs, coming from Lop Lake, moved high into the air and soared towards what was hopefully defenseless airbases full of sitting strike aircraft ducks. They came down with a massive explosion in Tibet, Gansu, Nei Mongolia, and elsewhere. Explosions ripped through all the airbases in the area. After the first Tomahawk went off, a massive bomber fleet, composing B-2s masked by stealth, took off in the wake of the extremely fast cruise missiles. They dropped their payloads all over the aforementioned targeted air bases, saturating the area with thousands of pounds of bombs before retreating.

They were followed by a short team of F-117As, F-35s, and B-52s, who all continued to drop bomb after bomb after bomb onto the airbases, in an effort to destroy or damage the ATPC air forces so much that the playing field was equal between Daylam-ATPC fighters.

OOC: The Maginot line would have been very effective if the Germans had attacked it head-on.

tibet The 2nd Guards Army begins deploying its units removed from the Dra-pol theatre after a brief interval for re-equip.

Primary Units include

1st Guards Armored Corps
11th Guards Armored Corps
12th Armored Corps
14th Mechanized Corps
22nd Reserve Mechanized Corps
4th Marine Expeditionary Corps
2nd Seabee Division


land based naval air commences almost immediate shuttle flights from the offshore carriers and the Joshuan home islands bringing in F14d tomcats, Raysian RF-11d Archangels, Rf/A-x7 Forzando Fighters, EA-6b Prowlers, and MIG 29 Fulcrums along with AWACS aircraft and F15E Eagles and F18/A Hornets.

AA an SAM defenses of Army and Marine Patriot systems as well as Firing points for standard block-2 and block IV/A theatre area defense missiles.

OOC:Sino is in control of Tibet and you need to move over the entire Chinese mainland to get there. Combined with your interval for re-equip, these suckers will not be reaching the conflict for awhile.

Xiaguo's draft reinstates to 7 million. The numbers are expected to rise following the war. Xiaguo will follow head on at Daylam. FOUR MILLION TROOPS reside along the borders of Xinjiang, Anxi, Gansu Province.

All troops has mobilised and are transported in all means possible.

OOC: Like I said, I have already defeated 1.82 million men of yours with massive casualties, I am surprised your population doesn't want to give up any more war over a small, barren desert filled with rebellious Turks :)

地 林 戰

How many did you lose Daylam? You somewhat never really post the losses.

double

OOC: First Battle of Hami: 4,345 men
Second Battle of Hami: 73,042

First Battle involved almost a million men vs. 50,000, second one was 4.2 million men vs. 1.8, and you were encircled both times.

BS, you stated that your whole Xinjiang force is about 4 million right? How the **** do you take that whole army and send them at the same spot all at once. Anyways, not 50,000, you have dramatically lowered all my numbers or raised all your nmbers.

OOC: No, thats what you said for the first one....something like 12,000 casualties for you, correct?
It wasnt the same spot. No one else had anyone there around Xinjiang so I wasnt in danger sending most of my force at that time. Half sat there and shot artillery with you for a long time while the other part moved around north and encircled you. I had 100,000 men doing border duties in Xinjiang while the rest moved forward to fight.

Right now I'm waiting for my 7+million to get here bfore attacking.

As Emperor Kim and his remaining troops, tired, injured, heart broken crossed back from the border. The initial size of the army that invaded was 22,000, only 12,000 came back.

Your exact quote on page 8 or 9.

Ok, thats fine, but Im not going to let them get there unmolested. :lol:

If ou would allow my 7 million to just arrive right now. I swear I'll star an attack. :D

OOC: Not before I launch a few dozen bombing raids on their trains. :lol: 8)

IC

After the last MASSIVE (please see the last page) bombing raid over the ATPC, huge lines of Xiannese trains could be seen going through Nei Mongolia. The traditional pattern of Daylami air strike repeated, with EA-6Bs jamming radar and launching HARMs into SAMs, followed by a Tomahawk strike, followed by B-2s, F-35s, and F-117As following up the strike.

Trains, going on the rails, were usually easy targets for the attacks, and often a single Maverick missile would be enough to annihilate an entire train.

Daylam, you're terroist now? My rains carry civilian passengers too damnit.

I'm not a terrorist. If you stash civilians with your soldiers its the same kind of cowardice as taking hostages and *you*, not me, will be held responsible for their lives. And I doubt trains going to a war zone under daily threat by massive air strikes would be carrying civilians.

If you know how wartime home front works, trains are only rationed to serve the millitary first. However, civilians still stand as passengers, are they not?

During WW1 and WW2. Soldiers from all over US, the plains, the big cities, the deserts, whatever rode the train with civilians to big cities like San Francisco, New York, or any meeting place for the soldeirs to be shipped off.

The Railroads are controlled by the Federal government, in this case, the Xiannese government. The government then tries to have trains provided for the millitary first. meaning, instead of 2,000 civilians riding the trains, only 200 civilians will be riding and the rest will be millitary/materiel.

-Hudecia Times-

HP: At 8 am this morning several high ranking Hudecian officers using a Xiaguo train while on vacation were killed by Daylam air strikes on the train system. The seven officers were on leave after having served in the Drapol conflict.

Lt. Col Riker, Captain Enrique and Lt. Ishwin were three of the reported 7 Hudecians killed during the airstrike. Cpt. Enrique was the commander of HNS Hclav before it was sold. Lt. Ishwin was a member of the famous 3rd Expeditionary Division which held out on Juwang Mountain for over a week against tens of thousands of Drapol troops and was awarded the Gold Star and Purple Heart.

Foreign Minister Matsuda was not available for comment but his office reported that the government was investigating the incident and would make a full response within the day.

-Xinjiang Province-

Hudecian aircraft screamed over Daylam defences and dropped their payloads of bombs on the Daylam troops. Tanks and APCs were primary targets. F-22s and F-36Ts watched for enemy fighters while pinpoint artillery and A-10s would destroy any anti-air defences that dared to try to stop the onslaught.

-Hudecian Foreign Ministry-

Matsuda stood in front of reporters and informed them.

"Daylam is in the process of receiving our response."

TPNN: ......The TPQD has offered it's sincere condolences to Hudecia, however, it questions how and why Hudecian officers were boarding a train that was taking them into a province, fulling knowing the railways and neighboring provinces were targets of Daylami cruise missile and bomber strikes.
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In other news, a massive amount of unarmed B-2s flew over the Xiannese train route, but it wasn't bombs they were dropping. Millions of leaflets, warning the Xiannese people that if they journeyed to Gansu and Nei Mongolia they could be attacked by the TPAF, and that the TPQD highly recommends they stay at home as this is all-out war. However, a day after this warning, the B-2s were backk, dropping bomb after guided bomb onto the sitting ducks of Xiannese trains attempting to transport millions of men towards Gansu.

-Hudecia Times-

HP Funeral services for 2 of the officers killed were held today. Family members insisted that the men were simply trying to enjoy some much needed respite before rejoining their units.

Pictures of the carnage on the Xiannese landscape reached Hudecian news agencies for the first time, and were published on the front page of just about every daily.

In response to recent Daylami atrocities, Parliament has passed a war act granting special powers to the head of ROCA, General Zhang. President Chen’s anti-war position is now untenable, with support for him and his party ‘dropping like flies’.

Thus, Taiwan officially declares war on Daylam


Within minutes of the war declaration, around 1,000 air superiority fighters (F-36T, IDF-2 specs are on my storefront post) are airborne, tracking down Daylami B-2s (with AWACS support) and engaging other Daylami strike aircraft.

From the air, 4,000 SALCMs from 30 B720 bombers (specs at storefront) are launched at Daylami military targets in Xinjiang. They target troop formations, oil facilities, airbases, telecoms, and barracks.

OOC: I won't be able to RP this for a few days at least, but I will be back and Sino will retake Xinjiang!

Tel Aviv

Do the Daylami understand the gravity of their situation?

No Comrade Prime Minister they do not.

General Netanyahu is on the march?

Yes Comrade Prime Minister. He marches with over 1 million men. The Elisha and Elijah Armored Tank Armies (Corps 6 divisions each) lead the assault force. Our ally Western Asia will allow passage through their territory.

The dangers?

None until Gen Netanyahu reaches Daylami soil or bombardment postions for Tabriz. Not even the Daylami terrorists are foolish enough to strke within Western Asia soil and thus provoke another entry into the war. Our naval forces, such as they are, we take postion in the Black Sea to afford support to our forces moving against the terrorists. Initial Daylami military targets will fall within range of our cruise missiles and convential ICBMs.

Does this fool realize what he has started? Does he still spew his anti-semitic garbage?(ooc: this is rp. the goverment interprets everything against them as being anti-semitic much like the USA repubs do criticism of Iraq)

yes comrade Prime Minister

Explain to him the error of his ways. Get the newly purchased Forzando Fighters in action as soon as possible with our Super Carriers from the Black Sea.

at once Comrade Prime Minister. To your health, victory, and the pleasure of the one G.d!

Cana Airbase and others all over CFI

9,000 F14d Tomcats take to the air with 2500 EA-6B prowlers and 200 KC125R Stratotankers with 50 E 767 AWACS aircraft, 100 B2 Bombers and 50 RB-225 Raysian Megafortress Super Bomber Aircraft

Following are 3000 F16 Falcons, 3000 Su-37 Raysian Super Flankers, 1500 F15E strike Eagles, 1500 F18/A Hornets and 6,000 RF11d Raysian Archangels configured as bombers.

500 F117A Stealth Aircraft precede these forces to knock out Dayami air search radar in the tabriz, Qazin, Arak, Qom, and Tehran areas under Daylami control.

OOC: 1,000 fighters? I thought you had 10,000?
OOC2: CFI, where are these air bases these massive numbers of fighters are coming from? Western Asia? Did you RP that? I will grant you the tank armies are almost there but the air strikes are questionable.
IC

Daylami F-22s of the TPAF rise up to meet them, displaying a skill and ferocity born of desperation. The Taiwanese bombers are easily spotted by the huge defensive watchtowers, and men zero on them with their TA-1s. Missiles fly in by the hundreds to meet them as the huge amount of AA weaponry of Daylam meets this lone threat by a few scattered bombers.

The F-36T forces of the ROCAF meet the F-22s of the TPAF, and the Turkic pilots fight hard, but follow the orders General Rao has given them. The swarms of Daylami fighters gradually pull farther and farther into Daylami East Turkestan.


News was reached that Western Asia, who had almost gone to war with Daylam once (OOC: Daylam supported Al-Anbar in the Kuwait crisis, WA was preparing to fight them), had allowed the Hebrew armies to move through its Turkish territories. No, Daylam could not risk war with the Western Asian military, whatever inkling of hope the TPQD had left would be erased.

In the meantime, General Yusuf Arslan took command of the two million men guarding the ancient homeland of Daylam. The soldiers here would fight tooth and nail to defend what had been Daylam's homeland since the early Middle Ages.

OOC: CFI, I am not responding to that air attack until you tell me how these planes will be able to reach Daylami territories in Iran, how you explain why you are entering this war, and how they will not violate either Al-Anbari or Georgian/Azerbaijani/Russian sovereignty.

OOC:My turn.

Kenoko, Shinoxia
The Citadel

You are Right to Be Cautious...

After days of debate and discussion with the Sultan of Daylam, High King James O'Kelly had finally decided to send in his own.

Although the original telegram stated that he would only send in two divisions, it was decided in the last minute to send in a third.

"And no one will know of their arrival?" James O'Kelly asked Marshall Blake Reed.

"Sir, it has all been taken care of, the divisions will land undetected behind the front line, in Daylami borders."

"And your sure that there is no need to send in an escort Fleet?"

The High King seemed nervous about sending in so many men and equipment to a nation he barely knew.

"Yes, it is unnecessary, if we send in a Battle Fleet we risk being detected, compromising the secrecy of our mission." Marshall Reed replied confidently.

O'Kelly took a deep breath and exhaled.

"I'm sorry for acting so cautious, I just want to make sure they get in all right." James scratched the back of his head.

He continued.

"But these are great men we're sending in, I have the utmost confidence in them."

"You are right to be cautious my King, but there is no need to worry, they are landing behind enemy lines, only when time allows will they show themselves."

High King O'Kelly nodded.

"Your right...your right."

"Yes sir." Blake Reed smiled.

Onboard an Arctic Fox Class Troop Transport.
Somewhere near Daylami waters.

Not Long Now

Lt. Jamie Patton had been anticipating his arrival in Daylam for a few days now, eager to get into combat.

His orders were simple, ensure the victory of the Daylami military.

He looked out on the dark, calm waters, spotting the large silouhettes of other ships, all bound for Daylam.

In a few days, he would be fighting for his great nation.

He stared out the ocean for a long time, his sense of peace only an illusion before a great battle, a battle when the will and courage of Shinoxians would be tested.

If they succeded, they would turn back the tides of war, and return home as heroes.

But if they failed....he didn't want to think about that.

Yes, it wouldn't be long now before 24 year old Jamie Patton was landing on a foreign beach, killing people he knew nothing of.

Not long now....

OOC: Just so you know, there is no way your government could know of my landing of troops.


All carried on 25 Arctic Fox Class Troop Transports, 15 Albatross Class Helicopter Carriers, and 25 San Antonio Class Assault Ships.

The Largest Troop Transport in Shinoxian History.

[b]-EDITED- Due to size of post, please see "Shinoxian Military Thread" for the amount of men I am sending....Thank you.

Sorry for lack of images, the person who was supposed to host them couldn't do it tonight and I will post images tomorrow.

OOC: Here you go,

Shinoxian Troops Sent to Daylam (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=148618&start=20/)

This is my first time linking to something, let me know if it works for you.

OOC:... umm.... I was under the impression that Daylam was mostly landlocked... Shinoxia are you trying to land troops in Xinjiang?

General Yusuf Arslan was flown in from Alamut, capital of Daylami Iran, to oversee the Shinoxians coming in southern Iranian ports such as Bandar Abbas. They were to be moved to Mashhad, along eastern Iran, until they could be used to beat back the Hebrew tide on the western front. This would allow Daylami troops to be sent to reinforce Xinjiang should it get worse there.

The Turkish general looked on, with a generally neutral expression. He did not how these Celts would fight, but he hoped they lived up to their ancient reputation. Yusuf was a descendant of the great Alp Arslan, victor of Manzikert and destroyer of Roman power. The Celts and Turks had both been mortal enemies of the Roman empire. He could not watch them long, reports said the Hebrews were planning a large air strike, and the Hebrew armies would reach western Iran soon.
He was nervous, as all were, but he hoped to emulate his ancestor with a great victory over the western armies, with Celtic help.

Hudecia, Daylam exercises control over all of Iran, and the government doesnt really have much of a choice if we tell them we are using their ports, as we would eliminate what little actual independance they had. Northern Iran is directly under Daylami control but central and southern Iran is a sort of protectorate.

OOC:... umm.... I was under the impression that Daylam was mostly landlocked... Shinoxia are you trying to land troops in Xinjiang?

OOC:Most of Daylam is, but there are ports in Daylami Iran.

Daylam, I didn't bother to send in planes, could you provide me with air support?

OOC: got it

OOC: Air support, eh? The best plane we can offer is the F-22, but we can provide you with SAM and AA support, in the form of TA-1s and standard Patriot missile systems already in place.

OOC: They are going to western Iran where they will fight CFI's armies.

OOC: Air support, eh? The best plane we can offer is the F-22, but we can provide you with SAM and AA support, in the form of TA-1s and standard Patriot missile systems already in place.

I probably should have been more specific...as in A-10s?

OOC: Oh you meant as in strike aircraft. Yes, the A-10 is a fundamental part of Daylami tactics, used with resounding success in the first and second battles of Hami. We can provide you with these, and also limited numbers of bombers and F-35s.

OOC: Oh you meant as in strike aircraft. Yes, the A-10 is a fundamental part of Daylami tactics, used with resounding success in the first and second battles of Hami. We can provide you with these, and also limited numbers of bombers and F-35s.

OOC: Check TG.

Got it.

OOC: 1,000 fighters? I thought you had 10,000?
OOC2: CFI, where are these air bases these massive numbers of fighters are coming from? Western Asia? Did you RP that? I will grant you the tank armies are almost there but the air strikes are questionable.


In rl, Israeli F15s and F16s struck Iraq's nuclear reactor capability in 1981 without the aid of tankers. I launched tankers for just such a complaint from you and overflew WA territory that my ground troops are taking. ignore this and I would encourage all forces facing you to ignore your attacks as you and I worked this out on this thread before I left for holiday. I've had ample time to deploy my forces so this from you comes off as a dodge.


Daylami F-22s of the TPAF rise up to meet them, displaying a skill and ferocity born of desperation.

Desperation would give way to mathematics and techological superiority over Tabriz and tehran. The F14s engaged with Pheonix missile systems from 50 miles away Phoenix Missile systems aboard the tomcat (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/aim-54.htm) more than twice that of the longest range(20+miles) Aamraams carried by the F-22 RaptorsAmraam carried by F22 (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/aim-120.htm)

As each of the 9,000 tomcats carried 6 Phoenix Missiles that had 80-90% kill ratio within 50miles, then up to 45,000 Daylami aircraft could be destroyed in the air before range for return fire was reached and then the dogfights would be settled by sea sparrow AA missiles and the QUAAM-38s(range 35+miles) carried by the approaching 3,000 Raysian Su-37 Super Flankers.


the EA-6 prowlers swept in over tabriz, Arak, qom, and tehran firing HARM missiles at any SAM radar that dared come online that had survived the F117A stealth attacks.

The 50 Raysain rt-225 Megafortress bombers carried 4 MOAB payloads each for military bases, marshaling areas, border defenses and naval and air force facilities. Major cities listed above were targeted at utility points (electrical and water) only.


The Raysian Aerospace RB-225-800 Megafortress



Role: Tactical Superbomber/Airborne Warship
Airframe: Heavily Modified Antonov An-225 Design
Crew: 2 Pilots, 3 Engineers, 5 C&C Officers, 3 Bombadiers, 21 Gunners
Length: 305 feet
Wingspan: 335 feet
Wing Area: 15,000 sq. ft.
Payloadless Weight: 1,200,000 lbm (including armor, fuel, and built-in weapons)
Armor:: Extra 24mm of Titanium plating coating the ventral surfaces, and 10mm coating the dorsal.
Max Takeoff Weight: 1,790,000 lbm
Max Payload: 250 tons (500,000 lbm)
Engines: 6 Raysian Electric PJ-1390 Mostly-Reversable Jet Turbofans rated at 155,000 lbf each (1,200,000 lbf reversable)
Max Speed: Mach 0.9 (600 mph)
Range: 8000 miles (12800 km)
Ceiling: 38,000 ft
Armament: 19 manned 50 Calibur bubble turrets (WWII bomber style)
10 Bridge-Controlled QAAM launchers (16 QAAM-38 and 2 RAS-818 missiles each)
18 Separate Bomb Bays that can hold a total of 250 tons of payload
1 5 MegaWatt Anti-ICBM Airborne Laser (on nose)
Several banks of Chaff and flare deployers
Takeoff Distance: 8,000 ft.
Landing Distance (With reverse thrust): 9,800 ft

NOTE: Some may ask why this design was chosen over the BWB jumbo jets that Raysia Aerospace also manufactures. Although the BWBs are able to carry more weight, they make much larger targets, are slower, less maneuverable, and are harder to land at non-Raysian airports. The RB-225 series is able to land at most international-size airstrips.

Special Systems: The RB-225-800 is meant to serve as a member of a bombing airgroup just as well as it is on solo. This plane houses a Brother system command suite, which can share information with all of Raysia's forces via sattelite or radio telemetry. It carries several radomes to scan both air, ground, and long range. It also has numerous digital cameras and infrared suites that can feed data into the Brother system and convert the pictures, cross it with the radar, and send precise data on enemy and friendly locations to everyone in the air or on the ground.

Combat Performance notes: The MegaFortress is built to withstand moderate heavy enemy fire and fend off a decent ammount of enemy air support by itself. But if you want this airship to stay in good shape, I suggest giving it a decent fighter escort. But don't let this thing's lone-wolf attitude overpower it's great performance as a battlegroup bomber. A flight of 18 of these guys will form an intimidating destructive force so powerful and so unstoppable that they almost wouldn't need any air support.

Even though no air support would necessarily be needed, 3000 F16 Falcons flew close air support for these and for the F15E strike Eagles and F18A hornets and the 6,000 Rf11D Raysian ArchAngels that followed against the Daylami army bases and Shoenxia troop debarkation points and transports that remained after the following:

Black Sea Northern Fleet

the 10 Severodvinsk SSNs (Akula IIIs) each launched a full strike of 8 SS-N-21 Sampson cruise missiles at the airfields the F22s launched from. This information was relayed via vlf from the AWACS in the air shortly after the Daylami fighters launched. (80 cruise missiles inbound. note: these are like tomahawk x2)

10 Kirov Crusiers protecting the only 2 Nimitz Class aircraft carriers in the fleet each launch 16 SS-N-19 Granit Cruise Missiles at the Shinoxia debarkation points in Daylam. 160 SS-N-19 cruise missiles inbound.

the Udaloy II and Sovremenny class destroyers take up positions to repel air or sea based strikes while the Krivak III frigates assume ASW positions.

Hudecia, Daylam exercises control over all of Iran, and the government doesnt really have much of a choice if we tell them we are using their ports, as we would eliminate what little actual independance they had. Northern Iran is directly under Daylami control but central and southern Iran is a sort of protectorate.
ooc:
That's not what you said earlier in this thread around page 8 or 9. You said Al Anbar controlled the region, not you because you did not want me doing what Shoenixia is now. Please odn't make me dig up the post with your own words.

OOC: Um, CFI, you misunderstood. That post was directed at the Taiwanese air strike. I havent ICly responded to your air strike yet.

I have some questions about the F-14s you are sending in. How can they reach all of Iran from the Black Sea? And if you didnt notice, Iraq is just a wee bit closer to Israel than Iran is, and you would have to violate Al-Anbar's sovereinty to fly from Israel to Iran directly.
After these are answered I will make the first response to your attack. I havent responded yet so do not post anything else until i do.

OOC: Um, CFI, you misunderstood. That post was directed at the Taiwanese air strike. I havent ICly responded to your air strike yet.

I have some questions about the F-14s you are sending in. How can they reach all of Iran from the Black Sea? And if you didnt notice, Iraq is just a wee bit closer to Israel than Iran is, and you would have to violate Al-Anbar's sovereinty to fly from Israel to Iran directly.
After these are answered I will make the first response to your attack. I havent responded yet so do not post anything else until i do.

I have already answered your questions. these were land based as no 9,000 fighter craft fir on 2 aircraft carriers and I overflew WA airspace with tanker support (which I also posted)

ooc: Daylam, you would be advised to think of ways to end this constructively instead of trying to nickel and dime your way around corners hoping I do not remember your previous posts about your borders.

I have far more rp up my sleeve that will not end well for you. Renounce your nuclear weapons and make peace now. I can and will overrrun you and at least half your military is too far away to do anything about it.

OOC: Alrighty then, lets get to work.
IC

As the slow-moving Hebrew armada moved over Turkey, General Arslan had lots of time in which to bite his nails at his F-22's inadequacy, grind his teeth because he knew he couldnt assault Western Asia, and then finally breath calmly, hoping the massive AA forces on the ground would be enough.
All fighters on the ground were re-based to Eastern Iran, out of range of the Hebrew armada.

As the first few Hebrew planes passed the WA-Daylam border, General Arslan unleashed the baptism of fire for the Daylami AA defences.

As the first wave, consisting of Tomcats, entered, SAM defences opened up all over their big ugly non-stealth asses. General Arslan had not forgotten the EA-6Bs, and he laughed at Hebrew incompetance. They had not even provided any strike aircraft in the first wave, and hundreds of thousands of TA-1 (almost identical to a Stinger, except with 50% more range and a little heavier and longer) missiles slammed into them, attempting to bring down their HARMs before they disable SAM defences attacking Tomcats.

At this point General Arslan hoped that the first wave had been crippled. The next wave came in, consisting of F-16s, Su-37s, F-15Es, F/A-18 Hornets, and Archangels, designed to attack Daylami targets on the ground, came soaring in with a vengeance. They would find that their air support would not be anywhere near the strength it had been when it entered. General Arslan gave the order with glee, and the F-22 planes lifted off from bases around Mashhad before the first wave hit, arriving just as the second wave hit and just in time to decimate the inferior aircraft facing them. They received help on the ground from continued SAM and TA-1 fire.


OOC2: The Shinoxians are waaaay out of your range. They are coming in from south-eastern Iran and are therefore completely safe.
The second part of your attack, about the conventional ICBMs, I am ignoring for now as your AWACs would likely be destroyed before they reached it.

OOC: What do you mean renounce my nuclear weapons and make peace?

NW Tibet; In and around Doumula

the 1st and 3rd Seabee Regiments had no problems with clearence from the Sinoese command structure. They landed quietly and began heavily camofloged construction of new airstrips and expansion of those in place. The 4th Airmobile division (which had not seen action in Dra-pol) began arriving shortly thereafter with all manner of AA and SAM defenses including Patriot systems and the Standard block II and block IV theater area defense missiles. The key was to keep this quiet as the Tibetian mountain ranges were between Doumula and the Daylami forces in Xinjiang provience. Unless the local commander did something stupid, like launch an early airstrike, this should work as the Daylamis had not prevously shown interest in this area and how too many other things on their mind to now.

Aboard the CVN Judah

Send to the Hudecians already in place

Can our Naval land based air and Joshuan AF assets deploy from your air installations until our deployments are complete? We could begin air strikes with Forzando fighters and AC 130 Gunships within 24 hours of arrival

OOC: So you landed in Tibet? I would remind you that the Kunlun mountains are, indeed, heavily watched and defended, if they werent, all Sino would have to do is attack north and completely outflank me. However, you are right in assuming I will probably not be launching air attacks on Tibet anytime soon, as it has not been identified as a major area of troop transportation yet.

OOC: Alrighty then, lets get to work.
IC

As the slow-moving Hebrew armada moved over Turkey, General Arslan had lots of time in which to bite his nails at his F-22's inadequacy, grind his teeth because he knew he couldnt assault Western Asia, and then finally breath calmly, hoping the massive AA forces on the ground would be enough.
All fighters on the ground were re-based to Eastern Iran, out of range of the Hebrew armada.

As the first few Hebrew planes passed the WA-Daylam border, General Arslan unleashed the baptism of fire for the Daylami AA defences.

As the first wave, consisting of Tomcats, entered, SAM defences opened up all over their big ugly non-stealth asses. General Arslan had not forgotten the EA-6Bs, and he laughed at Hebrew incompetance. They had not even provided any strike aircraft in the first wave, and hundreds of thousands of TA-1 (almost identical to a Stinger, except with 50% more range and a little heavier and longer) missiles slammed into them, attempting to bring down their HARMs before they disable SAM defences attacking Tomcats.

At this point General Arslan hoped that the first wave had been crippled. The next wave came in, consisting of F-16s, Su-37s, F-15Es, F/A-18 Hornets, and Archangels, designed to attack Daylami targets on the ground, came soaring in with a vengeance. They would find that their air support would not be anywhere near the strength it had been when it entered. General Arslan gave the order with glee, and the F-22 planes lifted off from bases around Mashhad before the first wave hit, arriving just as the second wave hit and just in time to decimate the inferior aircraft facing them. They received help on the ground from continued SAM and TA-1 fire.


OOC2: The Shinoxians are waaaay out of your range. They are coming in from south-eastern Iran and are therefore completely safe.
The second part of your attack, about the conventional ICBMs, I am ignoring for now as your AWACs would likely be destroyed before they reached it.

1. There are about 20,000 planes between you and the AWACs so they are very probably still aloft which makes the Cruise missile shots effective.

2. If your f22s start on the ground, they probably die on the ground under the MOAB attacks from the RT-225s and the follow on strikes.

2a. And yes, there are Prowlers in the first wave and the Tomcats would not lead if you had no aircraft in the air to begin with (remember I responded to your post about F22 rising up which you said was Taiwan) if you start with your planes on the ground then 200 MOABS, 240 Cruise missiles, and 9,000 strike aircraft (F15Es, F18As and rf11ds) later you probably don't have any to launch.

3. The SAM fire on the tomcats was probably a good idea but you wouldn't get too many shots off in uncontested airspace with so many Prowlers running around loose.

oocAs to the SE Iran part, you don't control that per our previous conversation. Don't try it now, because if you had controlled it, you would be under blockade right now and the Shoenix transports would be at the bottom of the Arabian Sea thanks to Akula and Sierra attack submarines.

OOC: Its not part of Daylam's official borders, geniuso, but I can commandeer their ports any time that I want, and they cant do a flip about it. The rest of Iran came under Daylami "protection" (ie became a puppet of) after our little conversation, so I could use their ports to ship in reinforcements and their territory to recruit men.

Also, you need to sort something out. The first post I made was relating to the Taiwanese air strike, NOT TO YOU. IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE WESTERN FRONT. When I saw you listing your massive air armada, obviously I am going to see that sucker waaay off. I re-based all F-22s to Eastern Iran, out of your range, BEFORE your air armada hit, and then flew them back in to destroy your second wave of inferior aircraft.

And also, there is no "oops oops nevermind I send THESE first instead", face it, you made a mistake in sending them in, and I inflicted large amounts of casualties. The F-22s are not on the ground, they are out of range of your entire assault. By sending such a massive amount of planes I can prepare for them in any way I want.

OOC: Shinoxia, do we know about your fleet landing in Southern Iran? I'm just itching to finally use my navy. :wink:

TPNN:

General Yusuf Arslan, commander of all military forces inside Daylami Iran, made a statement today, directed towards CFI's attacking Hebrew armed forces, as follows:


Why do you assault us, Sons of Israel? What business is it of yours how the Qaghanate unites the Turks in a place far removed from Zion? What have done to bring down the Chosen ones upon us? The Turkic people bear no ill will towards the scions of Yahweh, we do not need to kill each other. Indeed, we did not even know of your nation before you unleashed upon us Heaven's fury. What stopped you from staying your hand? No matter how hard our warriors fight, your people are, as Abram promised, more numerous than the sands, or the stars in the sky. We cannot hope to win. We simply pose the question....why?

OOC: Granzi, that was secret, he hadnt sent a formal battle fleet, just transports. Unfortunately your navy is still in the shelf :lol:

OOC: CFI, please use the OOC thread.
OOC2: There are difficulties associated with launching 10,000 aircraft at a time, so I'll be launching mine slowly.

IC:

Onboard a ROCAF E-720 AWACS/JSTARS
From the windows at 50,000 feet, the sky looked peaceful. However, the radar screen indicated a different story. The large LCD screen inside showed what the radar,lidar, and JSTARS picked up.

The scene inside the aircraft was suprisingly quite, as the only things working their asses off were the computers. The lone crewman watched as F-22s, picked up by passive radar homing and confirmed by radar, had their locations send to Taiwanese fighters, who were on orders to keep their aircraft radars off to prevent the same thing happening to them.

As the stealth advantage of the F-22 was negated, the ROCAF would have a field day.

Chengdu
The number of aircraft in the sky was now nearing 2,000, and clashes were reported by the minute. An armada of 24 IDF-3 interdiction aircraft reached the edge of Xinjiang and cruising at 65,000 feet at Mach 1.7, would literally clean the skies with AWACS support.

(To save you the inconvienience of checking the specs, the IDF-3 can carry up to 48 AAMs)

OOC: Losses
22 F-36Ts
12 IDF-2

I'm expecting a much larger number of Daylami F-22s and many more strike aircraft/bomber (B-2s, B-52s, F-35) downed due to several IC reasons:

*The ROCAF's former air superiority aircraft was the F-22, replaced with the F-36 and IDF-2, and thus the pilots know the weaknesses.
*AWACS support
*Technical superiority

Xinhua News
"Paris Hilton did not comment on the allegations.

A pro-Zhang rally occured in Taipei and Kaoshiung after he made a rallying speech on live television, silencing many of the war critics. Premier Hu Jin Tao called it 'an encouraging sign of warmer relations between the R.O.C and the P.R.C.', while President Chen refused to comment on it."

-Xinjiang-

Hudecian Arrow IIs spun into action throttling past their escorts and the Daylami front defences. Going at incredible speeds they would surprise any Daylami aircraft and catch them on the ground.

They released their missile payloads after slowing down considerably and swung back to head home, their mission accomplished. The military airbase used by Daylam had be leveled by the dozen Hudecian fighter-bombers.

The Arrow IIs would easily outrun anything that the Daylami forces would send to chase them.

-Approaching Xinjiang-

Hudecian troops began arriving in more strength. The heaviest artillery, tanks and tens of thousands of more troops arrived under the air cover of hundreds of F-22s, F-36Ts and Arrows.


To: POJ
From: Hudecian Asia Military Command

Hudecia would be more than willing to allow our allies to use our airbases to help support the liberation of Xinjiang

OOC: Christians for Israel, I do not claim to control all of Iran. Just the northern sector. You would have to go through Syria and Iraq, aka Al-Anbar (a 2 bil+ nation), and then modern Iran before reaching my nation. Basically you don't have any effect on me since you are too far away.



ooc: I'm bringing this to this thread because I'm quoting from this thread.


The Daylami empire includes Northern Iran, Central Asia (Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgystan), and Xinjiang province in China (known as East Turkestan in Daylam, it is the westernmost Chinese province).


Daylam you can't have it both ways. I actually posted a naval deployment to your area in the Dra-pol thread sometime back and then saw the above whereby you claim to be landlocked. The point of your post at the time was to try to landlock yourself from CFI. do not now try to reverse that. If you do, your reinfrcements will face the carrier battle group and sub hunter force I dispatched here one hell of a long time ago.

just a point, you would have had maybe 30 minutes to an hour heads up on the airstrke you and CFI are fighting about. Not enough time to relocate entire fighter wings and then turn around and relaunch during the same strike you ran from.

If so though, his f14s would still be in the area and could then catch your planes while they were attempting to launch.

That said: where is the OOC thread?

Hudecia, Daylam exercises control over all of Iran, and the government doesnt really have much of a choice if we tell them we are using their ports, as we would eliminate what little actual independance they had. Northern Iran is directly under Daylami control but central and southern Iran is a sort of protectorate.

Aboard the CVN Judah; Moving SW out of the Yellow Sea. Flag conference center

Admiral Peiper sir. Why are we proceeding westerly? We are supposed to move to support the Hudecians through Sino. We have Seabee units with the 4th Airmobile already in route with spy planes and other air assets.


Orders have changed. We move to support the Samuel / Eli Carrier Battle Group just outside the narrows of the Arabian Sea entering the straits of Hormuz. We have attack submarines in place there already and a large transport force is moving to reinforce the Daylami from a soon to be at war nation previously uninvolved. Recon planes and outer submarine patrols from the Eli battlegroup picked up this large transport force some time ago. Satellite attention reveals it headed for the Straits of Hormuz.

edit: Our Granzi allies, who incidentaly supplied us with the Torah Class(Vengence Class) SCVNs Joseph and Daniel, have been notified.

The Joseph group is headed home but we will meet the SCVN Daniel Battle group before we cross into hostile territory. Fresh fighter groups with the new Forzando fighters are being shuttled to our carriers and escorts with fresh missile batteries will join us with the Daniel. Substantial submarine reinforcements are also in route directly to the Daylami coastline.

4 Marine Divisions are embarked and will meet the battleship force with us. Supply vessels with the force will resupply the main armament and missile batteries of the Padre, New Joshua, and Jericho City. I am told that Field General Hausser's Guards Army from the Dra-pol threatre will be augmented by Army and Army Reserve forces embarked with the Marines and that the force will number 34 full divisions plus the Marines. We may be forced to proceed ahead of this force as the slowdown may not fall in line with the tactical situation facing Commodore Schmidt of the Eli battlegroup.

The Commodore of the Eli Battlegroup has orders to execute the 1st directive should the Shonoxia transport force approach the straits.

that is all

Rear Admiral Joachin Peiper had barely gotten the first words of his concluding sentence out when the men and women in the room collectively snapped to attention before he stood. As he strode from the room in spotless uniform and with precise bearing ahead of his Marine guard and aides, the striking thing still noticed by the crew was his insistence on correct uniform and bearing from his officers even in time of war.

OOC: Promise of Joshua, you should know that my forces conducted a secret landing. During my last post they were about to arrive, now they have set up a base.

Remember, just because you read it OOC doesn't mean your IC government knows what I'm doing.

IC:

East Iran, Daylam
Base Camp 101

The Shinoxian force had been patroling the perimeter around they're newly constructed base for some time. The equipment of the three Shinoxian Divisions, Task Force Enfield, would be fully unloaded soon.

They had no air support.

No air support. Those words teased Shinoxians in they're minds, with no air support they would have to make sure they completely decimated the enemy force, they could call in no air strikes.

Still they were confident.

Marshall George Kelley had been put in charge of Task Force Enfield. He was experienced and new how to lead.

He began to discuss his front with a Turkish Major who had been sent to help him.

"Listen, we're staring down an Army which outnumbers us 12 to 1, odds I wouldn't take...."

The Major seemed to agree.

Kelley continued.

"However, my force is better trained, armed, and has the latest technology, we should be able to defeat any ground force that is sent at us, but there is one thing we're missing" he paused "air support."

The Turk nodded and replied.

"You have made it clear to our High Command that you have no air support," he spoke with a deep Middle East accent "if you ever need some help, we have an air base not too far away."

George Kelley agreed.

"Well, if you say that we are covered, I trust you."

The Shinoxian Marshall ran his fingers through his hair and said.

"I have contacted my High King himself, James O'Kelly, asking him for a battle fleet."

"And what was his response?" the Turkish Major asked.

"Sure."

OOC: Looks like I'm sending in some Naval units, I'll let you see them in my next post.

OOC: Here's the Naval Forces I'm sending:

Shinoxian Naval Forces (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3243191#3243191)

I know I said I'd only send one fleet, but I got a little carried away....

Check the last post in that thread...

IC:

Shinoxian 3rd Armada
International Waters near Daylam

The Shinoxian 3rd Armada had been making it's usual patrol from Shinoxia to Shin-Africa when word came to ship out.

Midshipman Ryan Ragland was anxious.

He remembered listening as Head Commodore Allan McNeil told his sailors that they were bound for Daylam.

Due to East Iran's close proximity to Shin-Africa it would not be a long voyage.

One Africa Fleet had been sent to battle as well.

They had been told they would engage other Naval forces, mainly those of a nation called Granzi, he welcomed the challenge.

Task Force Enfield had been outnumbered 12 to 1, they were here to even the odds. Two African divisions had been rallied and are being kept in reserve, if they are needed.

Midshipman Ragland stretched his muscles.

He was ready.

[quote="Shinoxia"]OOC: Promise of Joshua, you should know that my forces conducted a secret landing. During my last post they were about to arrive, now they have set up a base.

Remember, just because you read it OOC doesn't mean your IC government knows what I'm doing.

Try Again sir.

Actually in order to get to even offload your forces, never mind setting up the base, you would have to get past these forces. Note the date. (May 14th)
Previously Deployed (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=140522&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=180)
If you don't want to rp an attempt to slip past the carriers and subs, I'll be happy to just open fire on your transports.

edit: this confusion is only brought about because Daylam can't make up his mind on his borders. He earlier claimed to be landlocked(the posts I put up on this page) where he only claims Northern Iran and then changes his mind to include all of Iran to make this possible. Blame him, not me as my strategy is determined by his borders which seem to keep changing as it suits Daylam's view of his situation. Maybe you want to turn back your transports and not push this.

Also, you need to sort something out. The first post I made was relating to the Taiwanese air strike, NOT TO YOU. IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE WESTERN FRONT. When I saw you listing your massive air armada, obviously I am going to see that sucker waaay off. I re-based all F-22s to Eastern Iran, out of your range, BEFORE your air armada hit, and then flew them back in to destroy your second wave of inferior aircraft.

And also, there is no "oops oops nevermind I send THESE first instead", face it, you made a mistake in sending them in, and I inflicted large amounts of casualties. The F-22s are not on the ground, they are out of range of your entire assault. By sending such a massive amount of planes I can prepare for them in any way I want.

ooc:and I can send mine in anyway I want as well, I decide that for my forces, not you! Both the prowlers and f14s were in the first wave along with the Rt-225 Megafortress bombers.

Taiwan: I have a pop of over 1.7billion. What may be hard for a nation 1/4th my size (like Daylam for example) would not necessarily be so for me(as launching 10,000 aircraft as that is about 1/8th the size on my AF)

ic: due to the initial cessation of the air by the Daylami air force, the SAM and AA sites on the ground were easily engaged by not only the EA-6B Prowler Aricraft but also the F15Es and F18A hornets which proceeded to make a shambles of the airfields, marshaling yards, military bases and other targets they had been intructed to hit. The RT-225s also had a relatively open shot with their MOAB bomb payloads placed directly onto Tabriz, Qom, Tehran, Arak, and the Daylami naval facilities on the caspain sea; including Rasdt and Ardabil.

When the Daylami F-22s finally arose to do battle the 6,000 Raysian Rf-11ds jettesoned their bomb loads and engaged with Quaam-38s from 35miles out, still a full 15 miles outside the F22 combat range. With the Daylami f22s having to traverse back over the parts of eastern Iran they used to evacuate, the RF11d Archangels(indeed most of the total air force) had plenty of time to react.

So did the F14ds flying high cover during the strikes. With their numbers decreased somewhat by the brave Daylami SAM and AA strikes, they still plunged in when the new threat appeared with their Phoenix missiles even if they had to launch from max range of 110miles.

(note: the RF11d archangels carry 6 quaam-38s each. Stats below)

Raysian Aerospace RF-11D "Archangel"

Specifications:
Classification: The Ultimate Multirole
Crew: 2
Wing Span: 35.84 ft (11.20 m)
Length: 49.63 ft (15.51 m)
Weight: 55,018 lb empty (but including QAAM launchers and standard load) / 83,122 lb max. take off
Powerplant: 2 Vectored-Thrust REPH-1100 Pulse-Det Hybrids
Max Normal thrust: 25,000 lbs
Max plus afterburner: 30,000 lbs
Pulse Detonation: adds 7,500 lbs

Aux Power: Two Raysian Aero Aux. Pulse-Det "Blaster" pods, each outputting an additional 15,000 lbs of force (for STO and quick accelleration)
Maximum speed (with only QAAMs onboard, full fuel, and all engines and boosters at full, and flying at 30,000 feet): Mach 3.5
Cruising speed: Mach 1.15
Range: 2,400 km / 1,500 miles
Service Ceiling: 69,000 ft
g limits: +13, -9 (So be careful!) Automatic Safeties prevent the plane from pulling unsafe g-forces and harming the pilot.
Airframe can stand up to 15gs
Armament: One GSh-30-1 30mm cannon on the nose, One Raysia Arms FC-216 Flak Cannon mounted dorsally (35 ammo), 2 QAAM reloaders (with 6 QAAM-28s in each, for standard load), plus up to 22,000 lbs of payload over 8 hardpoints.

Unique Features: The turret mounted Flak Cannon with 35 ammo, Quad-rudders/tails, 3D thrust vectoring, "Blaster" pods for STO ability, and all are Carrier capable. Radar signature easily confused for a Mig-29, and has SuperManeuverability comparable to the Su-37 or F-22. Has built in reconnaissance equipment such as a digital Camera. Missiles can fire any direction.

Computers: Advanced Autopilot to automatically land the plane on a carrier or runway in case the pilot gets knocked out or any other emergency like that, may be engaged by C&C or a wingman. The HUD is used in tandem with the "VisorScreens," which is a display projected onto the Visor of the Pilot's helmet, and uses a sort of compass in tandem with the computer that can allow him to see highlighted targets in any direction, even what used to be a blind spot beneath him or behind him. The 'VisorScreen' does not display the Altitude, pitch, and Speed like the HUD, as most pilots found this very confusing, but the 'VisorScreen' does control the Flak Cannon's direction.

Another cool new feature of this plane is its ability to interact with and control up to 2 UCAV wingmen from the Navigator's seat... something that can come in handy in situations where jamming is heavy and the UCAVs can't be controlled by long distance.
Raysia Arms QAAM-38 "Cam Mk III"



QAAM stands for: Quick-Maneuver Air-to-Air Missile
This is the new standard close-range A2A missile in the Raysian Air Forces. This lightweight missile has a range of 35 miles, and is designed with a solid rocket motor capable of propelling it to speeds upwards of mach 2, with fins and vectoring thrust that give it unmatched maneuverability. With it's AI-guided tracking system, the QAAM-38 is nearly impossible to lose this missile until it runs out of fuel (about 90-120 seconds). It's "Reflex" AI is guided by Radar telemetry from the aircraft of origin (or even better, the Brother Network, which directs it to head back to its target almost immediately after missing. When it does overshoot, it seperates the 1st-stage engine to slow down, then catches back up with the 2nd stage.

Missile Weight: 700 lbm
Explosive Yield: 200 lbf


These work well in the:
Raysian Arms Missile Reloader System
-It holds 6 A2A missiles each,
-30 second reload time

The Reloader weighs 5000 lbs on an average load, and takes up about half of fuselage hardpoints (Or can be mounted in an internal bay)
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The ICBM follow ons go in as rped except for the correction pointed out by Daylam in that the Sionoxia forces are out of range.

Meanwhile in Tel Aviv

after viewing the Daylami transmission from General Yusuf Arylan; the Knesset passed a vote of no confidence in the war effort and a concurrent vote against PM Minachem Began before the transmission was aired to the general population. This was fueled by the leftest socialist party who then voted to seat Yizack Rabin as Prime Minister.

The new Prime Minister, Yizack Rabin, a social progressive who was opposed to the military buildups of the Began regime called an immediate cessation of hostilitites and an immediate recall of General Netanyahu and his tank Armies. the Northern Black Sea fleet was similarily recalled pending full investigations on exactly how CFI had gotten involved in this war.

[quote=Shinoxia]OOC: Promise of Joshua, you should know that my forces conducted a secret landing. During my last post they were about to arrive, now they have set up a base.

Remember, just because you read it OOC doesn't mean your IC government knows what I'm doing.

Try Again sir.

Actually in order to get to even offload your forces, never mind setting up the base, you would have to get past these forces. Note the date. (May 14th)
Previously Deployed (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=140522&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=180)
If you don't want to rp an attempt to slip past the carriers and subs, I'll be happy to just open fire on your transports.

edit: this confusion is only brought about because Daylam can't make up his mind on his borders. He earlier claimed to be landlocked(the posts I put up on this page) where he only claims Northern Iran and then changes his mind to include all of Iran to make this possible. Blame him, not me as my strategy is determined by his borders which seem to keep changing as it suits Daylam's view of his situation. Maybe you want to turn back your transports and not push this.

OOC: Sorry, but I was told that the place I was landing in was far from enemy ships and forces.

I only landed 84,000 men so I wouldn't worry too much about it...However, if you look above your post you will see that I have 4 Battle Fleets incoming towards Daylam, I will RP them.

I was misinformed, my apologies, but hey at least it will provide some more challenge. :P

[quote=Shinoxia]OOC: Promise of Joshua, you should know that my forces conducted a secret landing. During my last post they were about to arrive, now they have set up a base.

Remember, just because you read it OOC doesn't mean your IC government knows what I'm doing.

Try Again sir.

Actually in order to get to even offload your forces, never mind setting up the base, you would have to get past these forces. Note the date. (May 14th)
Previously Deployed (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=140522&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=180)
If you don't want to rp an attempt to slip past the carriers and subs, I'll be happy to just open fire on your transports.

edit: this confusion is only brought about because Daylam can't make up his mind on his borders. He earlier claimed to be landlocked(the posts I put up on this page) where he only claims Northern Iran and then changes his mind to include all of Iran to make this possible. Blame him, not me as my strategy is determined by his borders which seem to keep changing as it suits Daylam's view of his situation. Maybe you want to turn back your transports and not push this.

OOC: Sorry, but I was told that the place I was landing in was far from enemy ships and forces.

I only landed 84,000 men so I wouldn't worry too much about it...However, if you look above your post you will see that I have 4 Battle Fleets incoming towards Daylam, I will RP them.

I was misinformed, my apologies, but hey at least it will provide some more challenge. :P

[quote=Shinoxia]OOC: Promise of Joshua, you should know that my forces conducted a secret landing. During my last post they were about to arrive, now they have set up a base.

Remember, just because you read it OOC doesn't mean your IC government knows what I'm doing.

Try Again sir.

Actually in order to get to even offload your forces, never mind setting up the base, you would have to get past these forces. Note the date. (May 14th)
Previously Deployed (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=140522&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=180)
If you don't want to rp an attempt to slip past the carriers and subs, I'll be happy to just open fire on your transports.

edit: this confusion is only brought about because Daylam can't make up his mind on his borders. He earlier claimed to be landlocked(the posts I put up on this page) where he only claims Northern Iran and then changes his mind to include all of Iran to make this possible. Blame him, not me as my strategy is determined by his borders which seem to keep changing as it suits Daylam's view of his situation. Maybe you want to turn back your transports and not push this.

OOC: Sorry, but I was told that the place I was landing in was far from enemy ships and forces.

I only landed 84,000 men so I wouldn't worry too much about it...However, if you look above your post you will see that I have 4 Battle Fleets incoming towards Daylam, I will RP them.

I was misinformed, my apologies, but hey at least it will provide some more challenge. :P

[quote=Shinoxia]OOC: Promise of Joshua, you should know that my forces conducted a secret landing. During my last post they were about to arrive, now they have set up a base.

Remember, just because you read it OOC doesn't mean your IC government knows what I'm doing.

Try Again sir.

Actually in order to get to even offload your forces, never mind setting up the base, you would have to get past these forces. Note the date. (May 14th)
Previously Deployed (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=140522&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=180)
If you don't want to rp an attempt to slip past the carriers and subs, I'll be happy to just open fire on your transports.

edit: this confusion is only brought about because Daylam can't make up his mind on his borders. He earlier claimed to be landlocked(the posts I put up on this page) where he only claims Northern Iran and then changes his mind to include all of Iran to make this possible. Blame him, not me as my strategy is determined by his borders which seem to keep changing as it suits Daylam's view of his situation. Maybe you want to turn back your transports and not push this.

OOC: Shinoxia, are you sending all of the ships in that last post? As in all the vessels in the 1st and 3rd Armadas? Or will only the ships in the 3rd Armada be sent?

IC:

Above Granzian Reunion

The small satellite spun slowly in its orbit. Located high over the Earth's atmosphere, a jumble of equipment was crammed onto every inch of space. As it made its way over the Indian Ocean, the camera onboard focused near the coast of Iran, and quickly snapped several high-resolution pictures. Within 5 minutes, the data was relayed to the GISS center in Reunion as it passed overhead.

Inside the GISS communications/reciever room, rows upon rows of comuter banks flash countless btyes of info a second. The screens across one wall illuminated the space with a soft glow. A CommOp stared at his monitor, sifting through information on all the world's nations. A small beep announced the relay of information from the satellite network, as he drew up the photos. A glance quickly took the measure of importance, and with a click of the button, he forwarded it to Central Command.

Within 4 minutes, a printed copy was hand delivery to Naval Central. Admiral McDowell sat at his desk, when the double doors opened, and an aide stepped through. "Sir, there are reports coming in of naval forces operating within the perimeter of the Daylami conflict. Here is a series of photos direct from CommOps."

The admiral reached out a hand and snatched the folder. Slowly leafing through the report, he paused at the unmistakable outlines of several ships. "What are these ships doing here, and we do they belong to?"

"Admiral, by the designs here, and here," the aide pointed to a few areas," we have determined that they are Shinoxian. We have recently discovered that they have expressed support for Daylam, but up to this point, we have not seen any direct action on their part."

"Well, that seemed to change quickly, has it now... Let's see, I want the 2nd and 3rd Battlefleets on high alert at once. Tell them to set sail at a moment's notice. No, change that, I want them to ready set sail in 48 hours and wait for orders. Notify the Prime Minister and the Navy Sec. back home. Based on the size of the fleet, we might need backup. Oh, and uh.. contact our allies, maybe the OMP or something. And get this transmission out. Just get this done now!"

"At once sir," as the aide hurried out.

To the nation of Shinoxia:

Greetings from Granzi. We have noticed a fleet of your ships close to the shores of Daylam. We must ask that these ships be withdrawn immediately. This is an armed conflict between the Commonwealth and Daylam and we are at war. We can not allow our foes to recieve help and supplies as this will lead to the deaths of our soldiers. Continuation of this course of action will be considered an act of war. We wish not to harm your forces, but we will stay firm in our position. Either leave or face attack. We warn that our allies will not tolerate this as well. Hoping for your swift reply,

Degarth Mallow,
Central Command

Saint Denis Harbor

Two days later, in the hours of the early morning, both battlefleets slipped out of the harbor. Lead by the Leviathon Couragant battleship, the 2nd Battlefleet turned toward the north, toward the shores of Iran, closely followed by the Third. Admiral Howard hoped there would be a battle, the navy had not been tested in quite a while. He smiled in the growing light.

OOC: Shinoxia, are you sending all of the ships in that last post? As in all the vessels in the 1st and 3rd Armadas? Or will only the ships in the 3rd Armada be sent?

IC:

Above Granzian Reunion

The small satellite spun slowly in its orbit. Located high over the Earth's atmosphere, a jumble of equipment was crammed onto every inch of space. As it made its way over the Indian Ocean, the camera onboard focused near the coast of Iran, and quickly snapped several high-resolution pictures. Within 5 minutes, the data was relayed to the GISS center in Reunion as it passed overhead.

Inside the GISS communications/reciever room, rows upon rows of comuter banks flash countless btyes of info a second. The screens across one wall illuminated the space with a soft glow. A CommOp stared at his monitor, sifting through information on all the world's nations. A small beep announced the relay of information from the satellite network, as he drew up the photos. A glance quickly took the measure of importance, and with a click of the button, he forwarded it to Central Command.

Within 4 minutes, a printed copy was hand delivery to Naval Central. Admiral McDowell sat at his desk, when the double doors opened, and an aide stepped through. "Sir, there are reports coming in of naval forces operating within the perimeter of the Daylami conflict. Here is a series of photos direct from CommOps."

The admiral reached out a hand and snatched the folder. Slowly leafing through the report, he paused at the unmistakable outlines of several ships. "What are these ships doing here, and we do they belong to?"

"Admiral, by the designs here, and here," the aide pointed to a few areas," we have determined that they are Shinoxian. We have recently discovered that they have expressed support for Daylam, but up to this point, we have not seen any direct action on their part."

"Well, that seemed to change quickly, has it now... Let's see, I want the 2nd and 3rd Battlefleets on high alert at once. Tell them to set sail at a moment's notice. No, change that, I want them to ready set sail in 48 hours and wait for orders. Notify the Prime Minister and the Navy Sec. back home. Based on the size of the fleet, we might need backup. Oh, and uh.. contact our allies, maybe the OMP or something. And get this transmission out. Just get this done now!"

"At once sir," as the aide hurried out.

To the nation of Shinoxia:

Greetings from Granzi. We have noticed a fleet of your ships close to the shores of Daylam. We must ask that these ships be withdrawn immediately. This is an armed conflict between the Commonwealth and Daylam and we are at war. We can not allow our foes to recieve help and supplies as this will lead to the deaths of our soldiers. Continuation of this course of action will be considered an act of war. We wish not to harm your forces, but we will stay firm in our position. Either leave or face attack. We warn that our allies will not tolerate this as well. Hoping for your swift reply,

Degarth Mallow,
Central Command

Saint Denis Harbor

Two days later, in the hours of the early morning, both battlefleets slipped out of the harbor. Lead by the Leviathon Couragant battleship, the 2nd Battlefleet turned toward the north, toward the shores of Iran, closely followed by the Third. Admiral Howard hoped there would be a battle, the navy had not been tested in quite a while. He smiled in the growing light.

OOC: Yes, every vessel listed is going to war... I will also be bringing in an ally with a large Navy.

IC:

Response to Granzi,

I apologize but I have agreed to help Daylam in this war, even if it results in the deaths of your soldiers, it's something I must do.

I am prepared to engage your Fleets in Sea Combat if you want and I will be bringing in my ally Dancing Moose, who also has a large Navy, to help in my war against you.

However, I hope our war will be civil, and will not result in the killing of innocents.

Yours in Struggle,

James O'Kelly
High King of Shinoxia

OOC:Sorry, some more remodeling at my house.I'm back.

Today at Taipingmen Square, The nations morns the 234 lives that were lost during an airstrike at the Nei Mongolian Railway. As the Prime Minister steps up to platform facing the Imperial Temple which honors the Heavens and the spiritual gods. As hundreds or Xiannese bow mostly the victims family. 5minuted of complete silence only rumbling cars and planes, the gently breezes were heard. A gong was set and trumpets played. As radical protestors were also demanding Daylam to pay reparations and give an official apology to the Xiannese victims. "Daylam must not blame the victims of arrogance for visiting our vacationing in the Western Chinese lands! They must apologise" As an angry protestor shouts out through a megaphone.

Daylam, bombing trains which has civilians inside is not allowed. What you can only do is stop the train and take prisoner of the troops, supplies, or let the civilians go and take everthing out and then destroy and sabotage the rail. Or bomb the rail with the train as this causes huge losses which not only has soldiers but lives of others. During WW!, Germany sunk merchant ships carrying supplies to enemy nations. They sunk them often with the passengers as oppose to Britain, first stopping the ships confiscating everything and allowing passengers on lifeboats, and then they sunk them. This is very similiar to this episode.


I will be busy with Promotion this week. Expect me off on Wednesday.

5 million Xiannese troops fresh from the Mongolian plains have now begin to organise.

Taiwan: I have a pop of over 1.7billion. What may be hard for a nation 1/4th my size (like Daylam for example) would not necessarily be so for me(as launching 10,000 aircraft as that is about 1/8th the size on my AF)

(No, Daylam was asking me about my aircraft.)


I am prepared to engage your Fleets in Sea Combat if you want and I will be bringing in my ally Dancing Moose, who also has a large Navy, to help in my war against you.

OOC: Can you please RP his fleets? He tends to be a bit of a windbag.

OOC: this is the OOC thread

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=146404&highlight=

Pacific Northwesteria sends aid to its OMP ally, Granzi. The First Pacific Northwesterian Combined Fleet moves to reinforce Granzi (don't have time to read 19 pages for locations, Granzi feed me info).
First Combined Fleet:

4 Mackensen Class Battleships
6 Thunder Child Class Battleships
25 Orion Class
35 Defiance Class Frigates
15 Skjold Class
4 Infusion Class carrier (100 planes)
2 Lunar Class carriers (110 planes)
310 MiG-29 Fulcrum (naval) carrier fighters
210 Su-33 fighter-bombers (naval)
100 F-109D fighters
20 Sea Hawk gun ships
10 Sea Wolf Class Subs
220 Air Cushioned Landing Craft
10 Leopard 2A5 Improved Tank
100 T-90DD1 Tanks
100 M1-A1 Tanks
500 Bradley Fighting Vehicles

With the following air support:

30 DD-1 A (high altitude fighter/bomber)
10 DD-1 B (high altitude spy plane)
45 B-2 Spirit Bombers

OOC:[/b] Here's a link to the pictures and stats of my unique Naval equipment. Scroll down until you see the pictures (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=149801)

Hey Granzi if you won't to have a Naval battle...you can have the first move...

If you want me to explain Scramjet technology...just ask.

OOC: The link doesn't work. Message returned was "This topic does not exist." I will be posting my fleets enroute, info is at my storefront here (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=143683).

2ND BATTLEFLEET

CARRIER BATTLE GROUP 3

2 Vengence Class Supercarriers
2 Roydia Class Battleships
2 Triara Class Light Cruisers
2 Adari Class Air Defense Destroyers
4 Atlantia Class AEGIS Destroyers
5 Grevant Class Missile Frigates

CARRIER BATTLE GROUP 4

1 Vengence Class Supercarrier
1 Tye Verna Class Carrier
2 Roydia Class Battleships
2 Triara Class Light Cruisers
2 Adari Class Air Defense Destroyers
4 Atlantia Class AEGIS Destroyers
5 Grevant Class Missile Frigates

ASSAULT FLEET 2

1 DeTruss Class Battleship
2 Thunder Child Battleships
2 Helina Class Battlecruisers
4 Portlandia Class Missile Cruisers
2 Adari Class Air Defense Destroyers
4 Atlantia Class AEGIS Destroyers
4 Royale Class Frigates
5 Grevant Class Missile Frigates

SUBMARINE SQUADRON 2

6 Spirit Class Submarines
6 Seawolf Class Submarines

70 Ships Total

3RD BATTLEFLEET

CARRIER BATTLE GROUP 5

1 Vengence Class Supercarrier
1 Tye Verna Class Carrier
2 Roydia Class Battleships
2 Triara Class Light Cruisers
2 Adari Class Air Defense Destroyers
4 Atlantia Class AEGIS Destroyers
5 Grevant Class Missile Frigates

CARRIER BATTLE GROUP 6

2 Tye Verna Class Carriers
2 Helina Class Battlecruisers
2 Triara Class Light Cruisers
2 Adari Class Air Defense Destroyers
4 Atlantia Class AEGIS Destroyers
5 Grevant Class Missile Frigates

ASSAULT FLEET 2

1 Leviathon Class Battleship
2 Roydia Class Battleships
2 Helina Class Battlecruisers
4 Portlandia Class Missile Cruisers
2 Adari Class Air Defense Destroyers
4 Atlantia Class AEGIS Destroyers
4 Royale Class Frigates
5 Grevant Class Missile Frigates

SUBMARINE SQUADRON 2

6 Spirit Class Submarines
6 Seawolf Class Submarines

70 Ships Total

IC:

In the early hours of the morning, several squadrons of AWACS aircraft were launched from the decks of carriers, winging their way north, their system gave advanced warning of the enemy, when they picked up information at around noon.

Admiral Howard stood on the brigde of the DeTruss Class Battleship Vigilant, staring out over the horizon. It was nearing midday, and the glare of the sun on the waves made eye contact difficult. His thoughts were interrupted by the shout of the sensor operator.

"Sir, we have the Shinoxian fleet on contact. Currently, our sensors report that we are around 70 miles from the naerest vessel. What are your orders?"

Howard turned around and stepped onto deck. "Get me the communications."

The admiral held the speaker with one hand and began to speak. "This is Admiral Howe, we have just made radar contact with the enemy. Man your battlestations at once. You know what to do. We have been training for this moment for a long time. I have faith in every single one of you. Let us show our foes what the Granzian Navy and do! I wish you all good luck in the battle ahead."

"Signal the other ships, get them into formation Arrowhead."

A mere 3 minutes later, the ships had fanned out into the shape of a gigantic triangle. 2nd Battlefleet lead the way once more, with the Valiant in the vanguard, closely followed by other battleships. Missile cruisers and destroyers fanned out onto either side, while smaller frigates stuck close to the heavier capital ships, forming a covering net.

Hundreds of aircraft were quickly scrambled, as each one took off. Two separate waves were formed, as the first winged to the north. When the enemy was within range, the mammoth 26 inch guns of the Valiant opened up. One by one, the other battleships followed suite, until the area was lit with the thunder and roar of the guns.

The first wave of aircraft was in position, as the pilots waited for the bombardment to end...

WOW, we can use naval forces now? That'll be great, Xiaguo has a very strong naval history.

The XNS, Xiaguo Naval Ship

OOC: The link doesn't work. Message returned was "This topic does not exist." I will be posting my fleets enroute, info is at my storefront here (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=143683).

2ND BATTLEFLEET

CARRIER BATTLE GROUP 3

2 Vengence Class Supercarriers
2 Roydia Class Battleships
2 Triara Class Light Cruisers
2 Adari Class Air Defense Destroyers
4 Atlantia Class AEGIS Destroyers
5 Grevant Class Missile Frigates

CARRIER BATTLE GROUP 4

1 Vengence Class Supercarrier
1 Tye Verna Class Carrier
2 Roydia Class Battleships
2 Triara Class Light Cruisers
2 Adari Class Air Defense Destroyers
4 Atlantia Class AEGIS Destroyers
5 Grevant Class Missile Frigates

ASSAULT FLEET 2

1 DeTruss Class Battleship
2 Thunder Child Battleships
2 Helina Class Battlecruisers
4 Portlandia Class Missile Cruisers
2 Adari Class Air Defense Destroyers
4 Atlantia Class AEGIS Destroyers
4 Royale Class Frigates
5 Grevant Class Missile Frigates

SUBMARINE SQUADRON 2

6 Spirit Class Submarines
6 Seawolf Class Submarines

70 Ships Total

3RD BATTLEFLEET

CARRIER BATTLE GROUP 5

1 Vengence Class Supercarrier
1 Tye Verna Class Carrier
2 Roydia Class Battleships
2 Triara Class Light Cruisers
2 Adari Class Air Defense Destroyers
4 Atlantia Class AEGIS Destroyers
5 Grevant Class Missile Frigates

CARRIER BATTLE GROUP 6

2 Tye Verna Class Carriers
2 Helina Class Battlecruisers
2 Triara Class Light Cruisers
2 Adari Class Air Defense Destroyers
4 Atlantia Class AEGIS Destroyers
5 Grevant Class Missile Frigates

ASSAULT FLEET 2

1 Leviathon Class Battleship
2 Roydia Class Battleships
2 Helina Class Battlecruisers
4 Portlandia Class Missile Cruisers
2 Adari Class Air Defense Destroyers
4 Atlantia Class AEGIS Destroyers
4 Royale Class Frigates
5 Grevant Class Missile Frigates

SUBMARINE SQUADRON 2

6 Spirit Class Submarines
6 Seawolf Class Submarines

70 Ships Total

IC:

In the early hours of the morning, several squadrons of AWACS aircraft were launched from the decks of carriers, winging their way north, their system gave advanced warning of the enemy, when they picked up information at around noon.

Admiral Howard stood on the brigde of the DeTruss Class Battleship Vigilant, staring out over the horizon. It was nearing midday, and the glare of the sun on the waves made eye contact difficult. His thoughts were interrupted by the shout of the sensor operator.

"Sir, we have the Shinoxian fleet on contact. Currently, our sensors report that we are around 70 miles from the naerest vessel. What are your orders?"

Howard turned around and stepped onto deck. "Get me the communications."

The admiral held the speaker with one hand and began to speak. "This is Admiral Howe, we have just made radar contact with the enemy. Man your battlestations at once. You know what to do. We have been training for this moment for a long time. I have faith in every single one of you. Let us show our foes what the Granzian Navy and do! I wish you all good luck in the battle ahead."

"Signal the other ships, get them into formation Arrowhead."

A mere 3 minutes later, the ships had fanned out into the shape of a gigantic triangle. 2nd Battlefleet lead the way once more, with the Valiant in the vanguard, closely followed by other battleships. Missile cruisers and destroyers fanned out onto either side, while smaller frigates stuck close to the heavier capital ships, forming a covering net.

Hundreds of aircraft were quickly scrambled, as each one took off. Two separate waves were formed, as the first winged to the north. When the enemy was within range, the mammoth 26 inch guns of the Valiant opened up. One by one, the other battleships followed suite, until the area was lit with the thunder and roar of the guns.

The first wave of aircraft was in position, as the pilots waited for the bombardment to end...

Outside Daylami Waters
Onboard the Indomitable Class Super Battleship SRS BB-1A Goliath

The sailors awoke to the sounds of thunder, they were being fired upon...

Midshipman Charles Conner woke up and began to rouse his crew as the sirens wailed in the large ship.

"Up!"he screamed "wake up you idiots, we're under attack!"

The Shinoxian sailors jumped up and ran to they're battlestations.

Shinoxian sailors had a lot of experience, having fought in many Naval battles...

Charles Connor arrived at his battlestation, prepared to do whatever it took to ensure victory.

Mr. Connor was in charge of choosing which shells to fire.

"Load Scramjets!" he screamed as loud as he could.

The Gunner beside him pulled a green lever, the Shinoxian Scramjet Shell, one of the most powerful in the world with a top speed of Mach 8.1 was loaded.

"FIRE!"

The Battleship unleashed it's full force.

It looked as if lasers flew out of the barrels the shells were flying so fast, there was no sound yet...

Seconds later a large boom shook the sailors, the speed of sound had caught up.

The Shinoxian Scramjets had reloaded and the Goliath fired a second salvo.

To Midshipman Connor, it sounded like other ships in his fleet we're firing their Scramjets too, as there was no sound.

The enemy fleet answered...

The Goliath had been hit, not enough to cause any major damage but it shook the ship, nocking Charles Connor to the ground.

As he looked up he saw fighters screaming past the night sky.

The Battleship fired again.

He knew the full potential of these Shinoxian Scramjet Shells, in other Naval battles they had shattered the enemy fleets.

The enemy fleet responded.

This time his ship was not hit, but he saw a Glacier Class Destroyer take a bad hit, it didn't explode or sink, it was dead in the water, it's electronics had been taken out.

However, the rest of the Ships in the 3rd Fleet seemed to be doing okay, as they kept firing.

OOC: I'll stop there.

Your first attack destroyed two Glacier Class Destroyers, damaged a Leopard Seal Class Frigate, and destroyed two Penguin Class Corvettes.

Other ships took some minor damages...

I'm not trying to push you into accepting major casulties but you should know that a high explosive shell impacting your ship at Mach 8.1 will do some serious damage...

Sorry the link didn't work, a link earlier in this page or late in the last worked and you can see my tech from that one...

Chengdu
From the base in Central China, Zhang sat and watched the monitor attached to the wall from the comfort of his leather.

Around two hours ago, he had ordered the launch of stealth reconassiance UAVs to check the intentions of the Shinoxian fleet. It would be another hour before they got there.

(OOC: Daylam, still waiting for your response to my previous post)

OOC: This link should work. Check my last post...



Shinoxian Naval Equipment (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=148618&start=20)

OOC: Grr, Opera crashed on me so I lost my huge post.

The Doujin Fleet is nearing the area, having set out many days ago. Doujin will be supporting Granzi in this conflict.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3246242#3246242

Fleet deployments

[quote="Fleet's En Route"]
Aegir Fleet(Main Fleet) - Deployed, en route Daylam
Hrafn Warband(4th Assault Fleet) - Deployed, en route Daylam
5th Doujin Battlefleet - Deployed, en route - Daylam
9th Doujin Battlefleet - Deployed, en route - Daylam
16th Doujin Battlefleet - Deployed, en route - Daylam
17th Doujin Battlefleet - Deployed, en route - Daylam
18th Doujin Battlefleet - Deployed, en route - Daylam
19th Doujin Battlefleet - Deployed, en route - Daylam
27th Doujin Battlefleet - Deployed, en route - Daylam
28th Doujin Battlefleet - Deployed, en route - Daylam
29th Doujin Battlefleet - Deployed, en route - Daylam
30th Doujin Battlefleet - Deployed, en route - Daylam

OOC: That sums it all up.

Kenoko, Shinoxia
The Citadel

The Shinoxian Fleets were outnumbered.

While the High King, James O'Kelly, knew they could claim victory he didn't like being outnumbered so badly.

Head Commodore Allan McNeil had secretly moved two African fleets from Shin-Africa, this way the fleets could quickly join the battle.

The Shinoxian High King had poured billions into the successful use of the Shinoxian ScramJet Shell.

Scientists said that it had the power to completely change Naval warfare.

While O'Kelly thought they exagerrated, he knew the potential for these Shells were huge, in their first use in Naval combat they had broken an enemy African fleet.

He still needed more ships.

He wasn't sure on the exact amount of enemy ships but the 3rd Armada reported seeing over one hundred.

Yes, the African Fleets would be sent in, and they would secure victory.

OOC: Doujin, while it may be somewhat fun to fight you your fleets your nation is post-modern as in: 2020 tech levels and high tech armor.

According to you one thread of armor on the Doujin is enough to stop a blue whale, that technology doesn't exist to me yet as I am strict modern (2004-07).

Granzi, I'll be sending in some more fleets, stats later...

[Shinoxia: It's that effective because it's so damn thick, the armour itself is completely modern and made out of materials that exist today. I don't remember the exact specs, but I believe that the weakest point of armour is 8/10ths of a meter, which is a hell of a lot more than an Iowa.]

[Shinoxia: It's that effective because it's so damn thick, the armour itself is completely modern and made out of materials that exist today. I don't remember the exact specs, but I believe that the weakest point of armour is 8/10ths of a meter, which is a hell of a lot more than an Iowa.]

OOC: SS, according to Doujin, one thread of armor on the Doujin, one thread is enough to stop a blue whale from moving through it.

That is not modern materials...

However, I recognize your tech and you may participate in the Naval war if you want...

[Shinoxia: It's that effective because it's so damn thick, the armour itself is completely modern and made out of materials that exist today. I don't remember the exact specs, but I believe that the weakest point of armour is 8/10ths of a meter, which is a hell of a lot more than an Iowa.]

OOC: SS, according to Doujin, one thread of armor on the Doujin, one thread is enough to stop a blue whale from moving through it.

That is not modern materials...

However, I recognize your tech and you may participate in the Naval war if you want...

Maybe Doujin meant "belt"? Or maybe you misunderstood? Because I have seen the specs on the Doujin Class, and I have read secret OOC threads that I am not at liberty to disclose. The Doujin is modern tech, but highly advanced. It's modern, but some of it (materials, e.g.) are only in the prototype stage. However, there's nothing that hasn't been invented yet. For info, go to http://www.geocities.com/doujincorp/doujinbb.html

Admiral Yuri Padorin, aboard the Daedalus-class battleship Motherland, sighed as he looked at the incoming data.
"Looks like it is our time to save the day, eh?"
"Da, Comrade Admiral."
Padorin noted how his accent, Feazanthian in origin, differed from the Rodinan accent.
"Alright. Let's do this thing. All hands to battlestations! Weapons to full power!"

The Motherland's 30" guns revolved for a broadside, as did the other ships in the strike force.


Rodinan Ships

Northern Main Fleet

1 Daedalus BB
2 Red Marauder BB
5 Aasimar BB
8 Stalin-class BB
7 Tartaros WIG BB
12 Leningrad BBGs
1 Leviathon BB
2 Mackenson BB
5 Lenin CVBN (battle carrier)
-50 AF-X11 Interceptors
-50 AF-Z53 Crazy Penguins
-75 AF-X1 Comets
-25 AF-Y7 Tsunamis

4 Region BCG
1 Hellfire CA
2 Vengeance CVN
-25 AF-X11 Inteceptors
-50 AF-X1B Comets
-25 AF-Y7 Tsunamis
-25 AF-Z53 Crazy Penguins

2 Infusion CVN
-50 AF-X11 Interceptors
-50 AF-Z53 Crazy Penguins
-25 AF-X1 Comets
-5 E-3 AWACs

2 Devastator CVN
-25 AF-Y7 Tsunamis
-25 AF-X1 Comets
-25 RF-11D Archangels
-25 AF-Z53 Crazy Penguins

2 Warspite SSBN
4 Wraith SSGN
2 Shade SSBN
24 Biggles AEGIS FF
38 Monk HSVG
8 Meteora CG
12 Alfa-II SSN
8 Norosia AE


First Assault Fleet

2 Lenin CVBN
-50 AF-X11 Interceptors
-50 AF-Z53 Crazy Penguins
-75 AF-X1 Comets
-25 AF-Y7 Tsunamis

4 Stalin BB
5 Tartaros WIG BB
12 Leningrad BBG
28 Biggles AEGIS FF
12 Alfa-II SSN
6 Wraith SSGN
4 Shade SSBN
30 Monk HSVG
5 Lunar CVN
-50 AF-Z53 Crazy Penguins
-50 AF-X11 Interceptors
-5 E-3 AWACs

[Since metal isn't made of threads like synthetics is, you must have misheard. Oh, and I use the same ships as Doujin.]

[Shinoxia: It's that effective because it's so damn thick, the armour itself is completely modern and made out of materials that exist today. I don't remember the exact specs, but I believe that the weakest point of armour is 8/10ths of a meter, which is a hell of a lot more than an Iowa.]

OOC: SS, according to Doujin, one thread of armor on the Doujin, one thread is enough to stop a blue whale from moving through it.

That is not modern materials...

However, I recognize your tech and you may participate in the Naval war if you want...

OOC: What the fuck are you talking about, Shinoxia? I think you are completely misunderstanding what you are hearing. The composite Aluminum-Titanium (which is not what I use for armor) has the ability to hoist up a blue whale in the air using only a cable 1.8 inches thick, and I cited that to someone earlier. This is a composite that has existed since 1997.. and the armor that will be on the new Doujin's will be completely within this tech level as I have had a Professor of Materials Science and Engineering go over some of the information with me to see what could be done and cannot be done.

My ships are 2010 and under in tech level, sorry to disappoint you Shinoxia. I wouldn't use them if they were 2020 and up. The only reason why you would be wanting to ignore my ships would be because I outnumber you so badly?

And furthermore, many nations use my ships - including your ally Gaia Rodina (Norasia Class Auxillary, Warspite Class SSBN, Infusion Class CVN, Mackensen Class BB, Leviathon Class BB, Lunar Class BB...)

Sorry to disappoint you, Shinoxia.

OOC-I would like to note that I am gradually phasing out Doujin-made ships in favor of my own designs...mostly because any little tinpot tyrant can use Doujin ships, and it gets boring.

OOC: I have been moving in the past few days, this is my first post in the new house. I will also be gone Monday-Saturday next week on a trip.
Just a note, Xiaguo, your ships are faaaaar away. The major Daylami port is Bandar Abbas, in southern Iran, you are in Manchuria, you will take a very long time getting there. Only 10% of the TPN is in the Caspian Sea, the other 90% is in the Straits of Hormuz.
IC


Admiral Zheng He watched as almost the entire Turkic People's Navy pulled out of Bandar Abbas to crush the forces opposing them. Although only standard naval vessels and probably not up to the quality of the enemy, Daylam could not afford grandiose naval projects at this stage. Only 3% of the military was in the navy, but this was enough.

Pulling out of the harbors of southern Iran, were

51 OHP class frigates
86 Arleigh Burke class destroyers
46 Ticonderoga class cruisers
87 Los Angeles class submarines
5 Seawolf class submarines
7 Virginia class submarines
19 Nimitz class carriers
46 Ohio class GM and BM submarines

This massive navy would close in on the tiny fleets of Hormuz, together with the Shinoxian and DM fleets to crush the enemy.


Almost 50 Daylami F-22s were the victim of Hudecian and Taiwanese air strikes. They werent down and out yet, however. They complied with the order from General Rao, which was simple: withdraw further into the massive SAM and AA defenses of Xinjiang and let them thin out the enemy ranks first.

TA-1s (simplification: longer and heavier Stinger missiles that can bring down high-flying aircraft but are still man-portable) were at the ready, along with standard SAM defenses.

In the west, TA-1 and SAM defenses, working in concert, were considered enough to both assist the Shinoxians in the air and provide enough defense from the Hebrew assaults so infantry with Icarus AT missiles could destroy their tanks. Another million men were on their way to Iran, where they would up their number advantage to 3 to 1. With that, another million from Uzbekistan left for Xinjiang, a much shorter trip, where they would bring troop levels up to 5.4 million men (3 million in Iran). That keft only a few hundred thousand men left for the rest of Daylam, but if another front was visible the TPQD would highly consider a retreat from Xinjiang rather than the destruction of the army.


Meanwhile, as it was known that CFI was in this war not for Xinjiang, but for some vague reason about nuclear weaponry, a confused qaghan addressed CFI, asking them for their terms for peace. Daylam offered to concede that the nuclear weapon stock would be dismantled with Israeli inspectors given access to all of the People's Qaghanate, including top-secret facilities in Samarkand.

-Border of Xinjiang-

Hudecian troops began setting up base camp on the edge of the province, almost 200 000 would arrive within a week. More were expected by the end of the month.

Hudecian airstrikes were limited to the front lines of Daylami forces now as Daylami aircraft retreated deeper into the province. Although Hudecian aircraft were suffering hits from the dense ant-air systems developed by Daylam, it was becoming more and more obvious that the Daylami ground forces could not reasonably expect to fend off the air strikes without more air support.

Air strikes on Daylami convoys near the front lines were becoming routine and attacks on major roads would harass their movement.

-Border of Xinjiang-

Hudecian troops began setting up base camp on the edge of the province, almost 200 000 would arrive within a week. More were expected by the end of the month.

Hudecian airstrikes were limited to the front lines of Daylami forces now as Daylami aircraft retreated deeper into the province. Although Hudecian aircraft were suffering hits from the dense ant-air systems developed by Daylam, it was becoming more and more obvious that the Daylami ground forces could not reasonably expect to fend off the air strikes without more air support.

Air strikes on Daylami convoys near the front lines were becoming routine and attacks on major roads would harass their movement.

OOC: I dont think you understand the preponderance of AA equipment Daylam has. Daylami military doctrine is firm in the power of the infantryman, and Daylam has a truly massive amount of both AA and AT weaponry. Your strike aircraft would be facing dozens of missiles per plane every time they moved over a Daylami position. You might get a few good runs but with heavy losses each time.
IC


With the destruction of most of the Xiannese railways and a few large trains, strike aircraft returned from Nei Mongolia to Xinjiang, far away from the Hudecian and Taiwanese aircraft coming from Chengdu. Their mission was accomplished, miles upon miles of railway were left decimated, and it wasnt likely the millions of Xiannese or Hudecian forces would be getting through any time soon, unless they took a much longer journey in a semi-circle around the path of destruction.

[OOC: Tibet has received 0 airstrikes from Daylam. However, their are defenses along the border just as heavy as those on Xinjiang's eastern border.
Also, I kind of need to finish this up as I will be gone for 5 days next week with no access to the computer.]

OOC: I think you are badly mistaken... the amount of anti-air fire that you are supposing is going on is unrealistic and is godmodding for several reasons.

1) Your nation is not big enough to supply all the weapons which you are requiring. Your nation claims to have how many Nimitz carriers and support millions of men?!? C'mon.. be realistic or else I'll claim that as a nation twice your size that I have tens of millions of men and tens of thousands of aircraft. Besides, you have stretched your forces to the limit with your reckless invasions of other territories (ie Kazakstan, other central nations etc...)

2) My assaults are being done on a limited area of your front line thereby maximizing my effectiveness and minimizing yours.

3) If you try to arm individual men with the amount of AA equipment required it would turn your front lines into one huge bomb. I wouldn't need to hit more than oncebefore your front lines are a smoking crater.

OOC: I think you are badly mistaken... the amount of anti-air fire that you are supposing is going on is unrealistic and is godmodding for several reasons.

1) Your nation is not big enough to supply all the weapons which you are requiring. Your nation claims to have how many Nimitz carriers and support millions of men?!? C'mon.. be realistic or else I'll claim that as a nation twice your size that I have tens of millions of men and tens of thousands of aircraft. Besides, you have stretched your forces to the limit with your reckless invasions of other territories (ie Kazakstan, other central nations etc...)

2) My assaults are being done on a limited area of your front line thereby maximizing my effectiveness and minimizing yours.

3) If you try to arm individual men with the amount of AA equipment required it would turn your front lines into one huge bomb. I wouldn't need to hit more than oncebefore your front lines are a smoking crater.

Well said. It seems that eveytime a godmod is on, everyone else godmods too. Then, the godmod is like "oh, @#$#, they STILL outnumber me" and godmods some more. Pretty soon, you can take most of nationstates and divide by 10 to find realistic statistics. I refuse to play into that, and as such I am a rather large country (under a billion at this point, so not huge) without a humongous armed forces. By the way, the threat of having tens of thousands of planes and tens of millions of men is exactly what I was talking about. Luckily, it was not serious. Anyway, everyone just play nice, ok?

OOC: 1) Yes I do. The economy is completely to shit but I have it (4% of military, only 3% of total military is in the navy, check out some of the massive navies other people have in proportion to their pop)

2) Sorry, I missed that. You are correct and I apologize.

3) That is granted, it would be idiocy to have that many, but I still have a large amount in proportion to my military. Artillery and armor are in smaller numbers to account for AA and AT increases.

ANYWAYS, the entire military is now involved. We have no more reserves. We've pulled out all the stops. There will be no more reinforcements to any of the fronts. Three million to Iran, six million to East Turkestan, and three hundred thousand along border outposts (Kazak, Afghan, and Kashmiri territories). 10% of the navy is in the Caspian, the rest is being deployed to fight the Doujin-led naval forces, assisted by Shinoxian and DM fleets.
IC

Tigin was at the end of his wits. Nothing was left. No money, no men. Everything had been deployed or spent. If anything got any more critical, Daylam had become the camel, all that was left was the proverbial feather.

Mines, trenches, tunnels, and barbwire was everywhere along the fronts. F-22s pulled out of range of enemy fighters, to return later on to deal with strike aircraft if they were unsupported. Otherwise, the Turks retreated into tunnels when airstrikes were called, firing off rounds of AA fire. These were not always adequate, and many a Turk died in the trenches.

OOC: 1) Yes I do. The economy is completely to shit but I have it (4% of military, only 3% of total military is in the navy, check out some of the massive navies other people have in proportion to their pop)

2) Sorry, I missed that. You are correct and I apologize.

3) That is granted, it would be idiocy to have that many, but I still have a large amount in proportion to my military. Artillery and armor are in smaller numbers to account for AA and AT increases.

ANYWAYS, the entire military is now involved. We have no more reserves. We've pulled out all the stops. There will be no more reinforcements to any of the fronts. Three million to Iran, six million to East Turkestan, and three hundred thousand along border outposts (Kazak, Afghan, and Kashmiri territories). 10% of the navy is in the Caspian, the rest is being deployed to fight the Doujin-led naval forces, assisted by Shinoxian and DM fleets.
IC

Tigin was at the end of his wits. Nothing was left. No money, no men. Everything had been deployed or spent. If anything got any more critical, Daylam had become the camel, all that was left was the proverbial feather.

Mines, trenches, tunnels, and barbwire was everywhere along the fronts. F-22s pulled out of range of enemy fighters, to return later on to deal with strike aircraft if they were unsupported. Otherwise, the Turks retreated into tunnels when airstrikes were called, firing off rounds of AA fire. These were not always adequate, and many a Turk died in the trenches.

OOC: =nation created by my friend that saw me playing and will never be used again :D
forgot to switch back...

"Comrade Admiral! IFF Transponder identifies Granzi Flagship as <i>Vigilant</i>. Orders?"
"Open a channel."
"Done, Comrade Admiral."
"Attention, Granzi vessel. This is Admiral Yuri Padorin of the Red Fleet, Gaia Rodina. We have been dispatched to keep the peace in this region and to aid our ally, The Celtic States of Shinoxia. Turn back now, you are heavily outnumbered. Do not force us to cause unnecesseary loss of life."
He made a "kill" signal across his throat and the comm line was closed. "Send a warning shot across the <i>Vigilant</i>'s bow."
"Da, Comrade Admiral."

An alarm klaxxon on the deck of the <i>Motherland</i> sounded, causing all deck personnel to put their large earmuffs on. The first gun on the #2 turret fired, sending up a frothy spray twelve meters to the starboard side of the <i>Vigilant</i>.

So are you saying you have forces in Tibet, Daylam? I can get Indian forces to help out. :?

Central Naval Command, Pacific Fleet
Island of Daerd
East Pacific/China Sea

Admiral Hall swore. The Daylami war, formerly a land based territorial conflict, had now become a naval war. Unfortunatly, many important trade routes went through the area, and if it escalated, ships would have to be diverted, slowing trade, life blood of the island. He also feared the war spreading, possibly into local waters. He thought for a bit, and then issued his orders.

"First, warn all merchant traffic to keep well away from the battleground. Second, have all ships be easily identifiable as neutrals. On that note, remember, we *are* neutral in this conflict. Also, step up patrol runs, and keep an eye out for any odd activity. I will continue to observe the situation. Signed, Admiral Robert Hall."

OOC: No, Tibet is Sino-controlled and a base for Sinoese, POJ, and other allied troops. I have no troops there, just defenses along the Xinjiang-Tibet border.
IC

At the head, and yet unseen, was the flagship of High Admiral Zheng, which, oddly enough, was a Seawolf-class submarine.

The Naiad was leading a massive armada of the TPN to outflank and destroy Hebrew, Doujin, Granzi, Hudecian, or any other hostile vessels, with substanial aid from Gaia Rodinan, Shinoxian, and DM fleets.

The entire armada numbered around 270 ships, all told (no battleships).

A radio communication was sent to all enemy fleets: you have, I'd say, approximately an hour to announce your intent to leave the Straits of Hormuz and allow Shinoxian vessels through, if you refuse, all 270 ships of the 2nd Armada of the Turkic People's Navy will open fire with guns, torpedoes, fighters, yada yada yada. Please choose carefully. This will be your last warning.
F-14 Tomcats were in the air, as were F/A-18Zs and EA-6Bs from the fleet's 19 Nimitz carriers.

MK-48 torpedoes were ready, as were ALSMs. Guns were loaded, Phoenix and Mavericks loaded.

And High Admiral Zheng would ride out the numerical superiority of his fleet as far as it would go.

OOC: No, Tibet is Sino-controlled and a base for Sinoese, POJ, and other allied troops. I have no troops there, just defenses along the Xinjiang-Tibet border.
IC

At the head, and yet unseen, was the flagship of High Admiral Zheng, which, oddly enough, was a Seawolf-class submarine.

The Naiad was leading a massive armada of the TPN to outflank and destroy Hebrew, Doujin, Granzi, Hudecian, or any other hostile vessels, with substanial aid from Gaia Rodinan, Shinoxian, and DM fleets.

The entire armada numbered around 270 ships, all told (no battleships).

A radio communication was sent to all enemy fleets: you have, I'd say, approximately an hour to announce your intent to leave the Straits of Hormuz and allow Shinoxian vessels through, if you refuse, all 270 ships of the 2nd Armada of the Turkic People's Navy will open fire with guns, torpedoes, fighters, yada yada yada. Please choose carefully. This will be your last warning.
F-14 Tomcats were in the air, as were F/A-18Zs and EA-6Bs from the fleet's 19 Nimitz carriers.

MK-48 torpedoes were ready, as were ALSMs. Guns were loaded, Phoenix and Mavericks loaded.

And High Admiral Zheng would ride out the numerical superiority of his fleet as far as it would go.

OOC: No, Tibet is Sino-controlled and a base for Sinoese, POJ, and other allied troops. I have no troops there, just defenses along the Xinjiang-Tibet border.
IC

At the head, and yet unseen, was the flagship of High Admiral Zheng, which, oddly enough, was a Seawolf-class submarine.

The Naiad was leading a massive armada of the TPN to outflank and destroy Hebrew, Doujin, Granzi, Hudecian, or any other hostile vessels, with substanial aid from Gaia Rodinan, Shinoxian, and DM fleets.

The entire armada numbered around 270 ships, all told (no battleships).

A radio communication was sent to all enemy fleets: you have, I'd say, approximately an hour to announce your intent to leave the Straits of Hormuz and allow Shinoxian vessels through, if you refuse, all 270 ships of the 2nd Armada of the Turkic People's Navy will open fire with guns, torpedoes, fighters, yada yada yada. Please choose carefully. This will be your last warning.
F-14 Tomcats were in the air, as were F/A-18Zs and EA-6Bs from the fleet's 19 Nimitz carriers.

MK-48 torpedoes were ready, as were ALSMs. Guns were loaded, Phoenix and Mavericks loaded.

And High Admiral Zheng would ride out the numerical superiority of his fleet as far as it would go.

OOC: I try to keep my numbers similar to the US in proportions... like 500 000 per every 300 million people.... which means my total armed forces has only like 1.5 million people. During wartime I might exceed this by a little (assuming patriotic fervor leads to increased enrollment), but not by a whole lot.

I also keep a record of all the military items I buy or produce, so I can pull out the list whenever I go to war.

I only have 5 aircraft carriers (but I just sold 4).

Alright Daylam.. just as long as you understand that an army like that is not realistic under normal circumstances. I didn't say anything earlier about the number of soldiers because I felt you didn't have a navy to worry about. Then when I saw your navy I figured you couldn't have the heavy equipment you now claim to have.

IC: Hudecian aircraft and anti-air missiles mixed in a tumultuous melee above the Daylam lines. At least 30 aircraft were shot down and another 50 suffered damage.

Hudecian military commanders were insistent that they must keep up the pressure on the Daylami front lines. Strikes were order at all times of the day, and to keep up with it the Hudecian fighters were divided into 4 groups, and the day into 4 6-hour shifts.

During each of these 4 shifts at least one attack would come at random, hopefully disturbing the precious sleep of the Daylami troops. With any luck, within a week most would be exhausted from the daily attacks.

OOC: I've been busy, so I won't post until tomorrow. And hey, it give time for my allies to respond. (PNW, I'm thinking of you.) :P

Ehh, I'm not gonna be rping any real battles, Graduation is up and I will be busy. Sorry. I might be posting other stuff that i don't have to be in full participation.

Ehh, I'm not gonna be rping any real battles, Graduation is up and I will be busy. Sorry. I might be posting other stuff that i don't have to be in full participation.

OOC: Hudecia, you would be surprised. 270 ships for almost the entire navy is miniscule. The Navy is only 3% of the entire military ( the military being 4% of the population).
IC

In response to Hudecian air strike tactics, Daylam initiated its own, moving troops out on AA duty while others went into tunnels to sleep. Infantrymen were trained in TA-1 and SAM use as the former trainees took a well-deserved nap.

OOC: Hudecia, you would be surprised. 270 ships for almost the entire navy is miniscule. The Navy is only 3% of the entire military ( the military being 4% of the population).
IC

In response to Hudecian air strike tactics, Daylam initiated its own, moving troops out on AA duty while others went into tunnels to sleep. Infantrymen were trained in TA-1 and SAM use as the former trainees took a well-deserved nap.

OOC: I wasn't looking at the total # of vessels (and yes 270 is pretty darn big) but more at the fact that you claimed to have 19 Nimitz class carriers, which IMO is unrealistic for a nation that doesn't even have its own ports (you said S. Iran is a 'protectorate'). A Nimitz class carrier costs about $2.5 billion and then factor in its upkeep costs (fixing, cleaning, fuel, etc...) not to mention the fact that fully arming each with fighters costs 80 x 19 x 30million... I'm not doing the math but thats a heck of a lot of money for a nation that is still so small. Then consider all your other ships. Even if we consider that 4 ships cost you a billion ... again... (250 /4) x 1billion... wow... thats a lot of money to be throwing around.

Then you must pay your soldiers (even conscripts are paid/or an equivalent is paid in housing, feeding,etc...), say $10 000 each per year (which is not a lot) times 8 million. Now you must arm them with guns... and AA/AT weapons are not cheap...

Are you understanding why I am not impressed?

IC:

From the newly established Hudecian front lines, airstrikes with "Bunker Buster" bombs begin. The bombs are designed to piece through into the Daylami tunnels which pilots saw when Daylami forces retreated into them.

There would be no respite for the Daylami troops.

Pacific Northwesterian naval forces have finally reached the combat arena, to reinforce Granzi. The following forces will be released to Granzian joint control:
4 Mackensen Class Battleships
6 Thunder Child Class Battleships
25 Orion Class
35 Defiance Class Frigates
15 Skjold Class
4 Infusion Class carrier (100 planes)
2 Lunar Class carriers (110 planes)
310 MiG-29 Fulcrum (naval) carrier fighters
210 Su-33 fighter-bombers (naval)
100 F-109D fighters
20 Sea Hawk gun ships
10 Sea Wolf Class Subs

Available for coastal assaults, including but not limited to special ops:

220 Air Cushioned Landing Craft (able to carry Leopard 2A5 and T-90DD1)
10 Leopard 2A5 Improved Tank
100 T-90DD1 Tanks
100 M1-A1 Tanks

Air support, from bases in the nearest OMP power in the area (per treaty):
30 DD-1 A
45 B-2 Spirit Bombers

With recon by:
10 DD-1 B

OOC:
Unlike some other nations, this navy is kept track of in a Word doc, with expenses recorded.

OOC: Sorry I haven't been posting, my computer has been messing up.

Doujin, yes the Doujin is post modern. Your excuse is that the idea was orginally concieved in 1997, well I'm sorry to say but technology is at least 25 years ahead of what is used on the battlefield.

For example, tank designs all are based around '70s concepts and technology, and the M16, having been used since Vietnam in finally being replaced. If that type of armor is researched in 1997, it probably won't be used until the 2020s. It will take nothing less than a nuclear strike on your parts to even have a hope of destroying those ships.

Now, if you have something to say do it through TG, I don't want to clutter up this thread.

Granzi, could you pleast post losses from my return fire?

IC:

Daylami Waters
On board the Glacier Class Destroyer the SRS DD-1A Achilles

Things had gotten quiet for now.

The Shinoxian fleets had been re-enforced by her allies Gaia Rodina and Daylam.

However, so had Granzi, Pacific Northwestria had sent in Fleets.

The two opposing sides were on a collision course, whichever side won the Naval engagement would control the seas, giving Daylam the advantage on the ground war.

Shinoxian ships had been refitted at sea, damaged by Granzi attacks, they were ready.

Shinoxian Head Commodore Allan McNeil would set up a joint attack against the enemy fleets, they were to be completely decimated.

The Allied ships were ready to move out and destroy the Granzian and Pacific Northwestrian ships.

He would set up the attack.

OOC: Actually, Hudecia, for the entire navy, 270 ships is tiny. Just ask someone like Doujin or any other major naval power how many ships they have. I dont have ANY battleships at all, too boot. 19 Nimitz's in the entire Navy is miniscule.
Furthermore, the southern Iran being a 'protectorate' is just a figure of speech. They aren't required to provide men for the draft, and they have their own laws, but I have unrestricted use for ships, men, and planes to pass through.
Also, Hudecia, I never said that my economy is going to be even up and running after this war ends. Its going to implode, collapse, etc etc. etc.

Also, Doujin, could I have perhaps just the amount of armor on all parts of your battleship OOCly? I dont need the entire specs.

PN, where is the base you speak of referring to your land-based aircraft?

IC

Kül Tigin's hopes began to raise from the depths they had plummeted to. The Xiannese empire was withdrawing from the war. That meant the only power that had engaged Daylam on the ground was down and out, taking with it millions of men en route to Daylam, as well as the use of railroads from Manchuria to bring in Hudecian and POJ troops. Sinoese forces were still a problem, but with almost five and a half million men, the qaghan was confident he could defeat them. With that, East Turkestan, the cause for this war in the first place, was hopefully to stay in Daylami hands.

Meanwhile, Admiral Zheng, a tall, muscular man of Mongol descent, began radioing the Shinoxian admiral. "I'm trying to catch them off the coast of Oman. If you move in afterwards we can destroy them in a great pincer. If they don't swallow the bait simply move right on through towards southern Iran and land your men.

Meanwhile, as Hudecian strikes continued, AA attacks increased in volume, as AA men were transfered from other places into the areas being attacked.

OOC: Xiaguo didn't say we couldn't use his railroads or that he was withdrawing from the war :wink: .. just that he wasn't going to be launching offensives for the time being.

Also, I was speaking relativistically about your navy.. comparing your navy to a major power's is like comparing Canada's navy to the USA's navy.

Because my nation only has about 1.5 million combat troops where yours has over 8 million (but I'm much older than you) I'd have to say mine are much better trained and equiped.

IC:

Hudecian aircraft were taking quite the beating throughout the entire engagement. Repairs were constantly being made to the dozens of aircraft while more were launched in wave after wave of assaults. Hudecian military commanders waited as the concentration of anti-air units increased in their target area.

Then, instead of the usual air bombardment, artillery opened fire on the area. 155mm, 125mm and 105mm artillery shells pounded the area while the Daylami troops were waiting expecting an attack from the skies.

The next wave of aircraft were directed to a different region nearer to Hami. This change of tactics would hopefully distract Daylam.

Hudecian troops were still marching in from Chengdu under heavy guard from the allied air defences. The one major road was saturated with air cover and anti-missile defences. At present the second wave of Hudecian troops on their way to reinforce the 200 000 already present, was nearing Yumen.

Artillery had not been abadoned at all, only infantry had been converted to AA duty. Artillery boomed in response, less accurate individually but in far greater volume than the Hudecian serenade. Long-range artillery was brought up and directed at the roads leading up to the Hudecian camps. Meanwhile, the Hudecian aircraft attempting to redirect their strikes were forced to fly over fields of already established AA positions, and these defenses opened up as General Rao hurried more men into the new strike zone.

Meanwhile, a major re-disposition of Daylami forces began. A million men were withdrawn from the Persian theater and began their journey to Xinjiang, due to the inactivity of the Hebrews in the war and the possible Shinoxian reinforcements.

Meanwhile, General Rao made another move designed to throw the Hudecian Air Force back to its bases. As the Taiwanese fighters withdrew, the masses of F-22s returned to hurl themselves at the lone Hudecian aircraft, in far greater number. AA defenses began a massive attack rigth before the fighters arrived. Meanwhile, infantry deepened their tunnels, and simply moved to ones away from the Hudecian air strike, returning after the strike zone was re-designated to repair them.

A limited offensive

As all these moves to combat allied air supremacy were concluded, Kül Tigin took approximately 1.5 million men, including a large percentage of the Daylami armored divisions, and moved out of Xinjiang's borders, heading directly to the Hudecian army of 200,000 men, completely isolated, without reinforcements, and simply sitting on the border. T-90s raced ahead, with AA support, as did infantrymen armed with AN-94s with bayonets, or a large number of ICARUS antitank missiles to disable what little Hudecian armor was left. The move was designed to destroy the growth before it became a cancer, and take Hudecia completely by surprise.

IC:

Aboard the DMN Indomitable, 0200 hours

Captain Jack Bennings: So, Admiral, how are you liking Dancing Moose's new investment?

Fleet Admiral Ross: It will have to do I suppose... we will really see once we get to the action.

Bennings: Ha... in a ship only the Doujin can challange, I think we will be ok...

Ross: Well, the Doujin might be there... you never know Captain.

Bennings: Well I would hate to assume that... but I guess we should be prepared.

Ross: Exactly. So, is the fleet ready to move out?

Bennings: They better, we are running late... I will contact Admiral Sagumo to confirm.

Ross: Very well... any word from the Shinoxian Fleets?

Bennings: No sir, not yet... although I am expecting one... it appears they are on the verge of a battle.

Ross: Well I would hate to miss it... lets get this show on the road.

Bennings: Yes sir.

The huge battlecrusier pulled out of harbor, along with the second and third battlegroups of the Dancing Moose First Fleet. The first and fourth battlegroups were expected to meet up with them not soon after departure, as they had left Kahuna harbor less than one day before. In one day, the entire Dancing Moose First Fleet, comprising of well over a hundred ships, was to meet up with the Shinoxian fleets.


OOC: As stated above, I am sending in my first fleet to meet up with my allies. The second fleet is to be readed and send out if needed. (One fleet=4 carrier battlegroups, and 4 fast assualt groups).

Here are my forces:

Dancing Moose First Fleet

First Battlegroup:
1 Black Pearl Carrier (DMN Graceland)
1 Indomitable Class Super Battleship (DMN Seydlitz)
2 Great Lakes Class Battleships (DMN Barham, DMN Moltke)
1 Hellfire Heavy Cruiser (DMN Marlborough)
3 Ticonderoga Guided Missile Cruisers (DMN Jack Frost, DMN Tundra, DMN Margraf)
2 NightStalker Class Guided Missile Destroyers (DMN Sujo, DMN Nelson)
10 Amundsen Class Destroyers (DMN Amundsen, Z-53, Z-54, Z-43, Z-75, Z-64, Z-62, Z-57, Z-23, Z-50)
1 Biggles Class Anti-Missile Frigate (DMN Saratoga)
2 Arsenal Stealth Ships (DMN Foxbat, DMN Furious)
5 Visby Class Corvettes (H-7, H-3, H-10, H-1, H-5)
3 Seawolf Class Subs (DMN Night Stalker, DMN Remington, DMN Perdition)
1 Special Operations Sub-Seahorse Class (DMN Thompson)
2 Sub Tender (S-3, S-23)
2 Fleet Auxiliary (AU-22, AU-44)

1st Fast Assault Group:
3 Spruance Class Destroyers (DMN Vernon, DMN Tombstone, DMN Reservoir)
3 Visby Corvettes (H-42, H-57, H-6)
5 Weathered Class Torpedo Boats (TB-1, TB-4, TB-8, TB-11, TB-14)
3 Pegasus Class PT Boats (PT-105, PT-74, PT-142)
3 LA Class Attack Subs (DMN Leyte, DMN Okinawa, DMN Congo)

Second Battlegroup:
2 Nimitz Stealth Carriers (DMN Inertia, DMN Tuscon)
1 Huron Class Command Ship/Battlecruiser (DMN Malaya)
2 Indomitable Class Super Battleships (DMN Indomitable, DMN Indefatigable)
3 Ticonderoga Guided Missile Cruisers (DMN Cabot, DMN Swordfish, DMN Simone)
2 Zumwalt Class Destroyers (DMN Charlotte, DMN Bayern)
10 Amundsen Class Destroyers (DMN Z-84, Z-87, Z-95, Z-96, Z-102, Z-15, Z-120, Z-114, Z-99, Z-2)
5 Arsenal Class Stealth Ships (DMN Trix, DMN Hydra, DMN Wivern, DMN Baden, DMN Rebel)
5 Visby Corvettes (H-27, H-15, H-75, H-92, H-86)
2 Weathered Class Torpedo Boats (TB-23, TB-55, TB-17)
4 Pegasus Class PT Boats (PT-57, PT-10, PT-22, PT-4)
3 Seawolf Class Subs (DMN Dawn, DMN Maxwell, DMN Vertigo)
3 LA Class Attack Subs (DMN Revolution, DMN Bounty, DMN Anchorage)
2 Sub Tenders (S-15, S-4)
4 Fleet Auxiliary (AU-47, AU-20, AU-50, AU-44)

2nd Fast Assault Group
1 Hellfire Class Heavy Cruiser (DMN Derfflinger)
3 Amundsen Class Destroyers (Z-172, Z-101, Z-163)
2 NightStalker Class Guided Missile Destroyers (DMN Sydra, DMN Badger)
5 Pegasus Class PT Boats (PT-111, PT-1, PT-3, PT-157, PT-104)
2 LA Class Attack Subs (DMN Patriot, DMN Exocet)

Third Battlegroup:
2 Modified Stealth Nimitz carriers (DMN Carnac, DMN Renegade)
2 Great Lakes Class Battleships (DMN Haruna, DMN Fuso)
1 Ross Class Hybrid Battleship/Carrier (DMN Inflexible)
1 Hellfire Heavy Cruiser (DMN Kahuna)
4 Ticonderoga Guided Missile Cruisers (DMN Vice, DMN Croft, DMN Winchester, DMN Maverick)
5 NightStalker Class Guided Missile Destroyers (DMN Bison, DMN Malibu, DMN Dorsetshire, DMN Clyde, DMN Trout)
10 Amundsen Class Destroyers (DMN Z-87, Z-194, Z-197, Z-203, Z-177, Z-12, Z-90, Z-20, Z-205, Z-222)
10 Weathered Class Torpedo boats (DMN TB-101, TB-100, TB-73, TB-87, TB-54, TB-93, TB-99, TB-2, TB-88, TB-15)
3 Arsenal Class Stealth Ships (DMN Reloaded, DMN Resolution, DMN Jade)
5 Visby Class Corvettes (H-62, H-77, H-76, H-65, H-45)
2 Seawolf Class Subs (DMN Redoubtable, DMN Black Joke)
3 LA Class Attack Subs (DMN Renown, DMN Rodney, DMN Valiant)
3 Sub Tenders (S-13, S-20, S-43)
1 Fleet Auxillary (AU- 44)
2 Hospital Ships (DMN Serene, DMN Nobel)

3rd Fast Assault Group
1 Hellfire Heavy Cruiser (DMN Vanguard)
3 NightStalker Class Guided Missile Destroyers (DMN Celeste, DMN Hiei, DMN Shinano)
2 Spruance Class Destroyers (DMN Provence, DMN Royal Oak)
5 Weathered Class Torpedo Boats (TB-300, TB-304, TB-297, TB-307)
4 Pegasus Class PT boats (PT-88, PT-84, PT-98, PT-77)
2 LA Class Attack Subs (DMN Suffolk, DMN Victorious)

Fourth Battlegroup:
1 Mnemosyne Class Aircraft Carrier (DMN Electra)
1 Modified Nimitz Aircraft Carrier (DMN Atlantis)
1 Indomitable Class Super Battleship (DMN Invincible)
1 Great Lakes Class Battleship (DMN Portland)
1 Hellfire Heavy Cruiser (Royal Sovereign)
3 Ticonderoga Guided Missile Cruisers (DMN Tomcat, DMN Proximo, DMN Red Dawn)
5 Amundsen Class Destroyers (DMN Z-305, Z-388, Z-363, Z-401, Z-350)
5 Spruance Class Destroyers (DMN Mariana, DMN Mogami, DMN Parthian, DMN Proteus, DMN Marlin)
4 Arsenal Class Stealth Ships (DMN Foxtrot, DMN Casablanca, DMN Sentinel, DMN Seraph)
5 Weathered Class Torpedo Boats (TB-409, TB-405, TB-468, TB-471, TB-338)
5 Pegasus Class PT Boats (PT-177, PT-110, PT-11, PT-280)
3 Visby Class Corvettes (H-123, H-112, H-92)
4 LA Class Attack Subs (DMN Nautilus, DMN Agincourt, DMN Aquila, DMN Audacious)
2 Sub Tenders (S-41, S-52)
4 Fleet Auxiliary (AU-18, AU-27, AU-49, AU-52)
1 Hospital Ship (DMN Courageous)

4th Fast Assault Group
1 Iowa Class Battleship (DMN Agamemnon)
2 NightStalker Class Guided Missile Destroyers (DMN Formidable, DMN Forrestal)
2 Spruance Class Destroyers (DMN Glorious, DMN Iron Duke)
3 Pegasus Class PT Boats (PT-303, PT-425, PT-552)
1 Seawolf Class Sub (DMN Monarch)
1 Special Operations Sub-Seahorse Class (DMN Roanoke)

Each of my carriers carries the following planes (including CAP):
15 F-22 Sea Raptors
15 F-16SF Super Falcons
15 F-15F Sky Eagles
10 F/A-186 Ground Attack Hornets
15 AV-8B Harrier II Plus Aircraft
10 Talon F-96 Joint Strike Fighter Aircraft
5 Darkhorse F-35B STOVC Joint Strike Fighter Aircraft

The Amundsen Class destroyers carry one Sikorsky MH-53E Sea Dragon and one AH-64H Apache Crossbow helicopter.

LA and Seawolf Class subs are armed with: Mk48 Mod5 ADCAP (ADvanced CAPability) ASW/Anti-ship torpedo’s, BGM-109 Tomahawk SLCM’s (Conventional/Nuclear), Sea Lance ASW’s, Sub-Martel Submarine-launched SSM”s, and Mk.48 Model Antarctic Maelstrom SuperCavs

The V.K. Feazanthia sailed behind the DM and GR fleets.

"Comrade Captain Gorbachev, our comrades in Dancing Moose appear to have produced a similar vessel to our Feazanthia. They're calling it a 'Carlyle'."
"I see...well, no matter. They're our allies anyways. I think we shall be safe aboard our Motherland's greatest achievement. Any response from the Granzi fleet?"
"Nyet, Comrade Captain."
"Well, take us to the front. Inform Admiral Padorin that he is welcome to board his new flagship."
"Da, Comrade Captain."

BUMPing it

OOC: Where did _Taiwan say that his fighters were withdrawing? You are stretching there.. and I am ignoring it for not reading his posts. He has over 10 000 aircraft in the area and can afford to keep a rolling attack on for about the next ten years if he really wants.. You are godmodding again by claiming that his aircraft are withdrawing. Just like you did with Xiaguo.

If your artillery crews did not abandon their guns they would have been obliterated by air strikes. Artillery are no good against aircraft, so if you left them out in the open and manned they would be destroyed easily. When artillery are going to come under air attacks they hide the guns so that the strike planes can't find them to kill them. Your artillery crews would then have to rush to their guns (under fire) reload them, resupply them (you don't leave bombs near expensive equipment during an air strike), and retarget them towards artillery at unknown positions kilometres away. Not realistic Daylam.

And infantry crews can not be used interchangeably with AA crews. You would need to train AA crews (which is expensive) so they would not be used as regular infantry.

And again you are missing Xiaguo's point.. .he did NOT withdraw from the war, he just said that he would not be able to post for a while. If you attack me you are attacking his troops on the border as well. And what about Taiwanese or Granzi or Sinoese troops?

IC

Hudecian armour wasn't in bad condition at all and in contrast to the Daylami forces was in extremely good condition considering that they had not suffered under days of extreme bombardment from both artillery and air strikes.

"They are attacking with over a million men?" General Chellis asked rhetorically. "Good... with that many men they'll be so uncoordinated they'll be easily destroyed." Chellis laughed confidently, he had been expecting such. And now that Daylam was under the mistaken impression that they ruled the skies, it would be even easier to obliterate them. After all, Hudecia had over 2 000 aircraft there.

Only 2 of the remaining 3 shifts of Hudecian strike aircraft were launched at the approaching Daylami forces, making minch meat out of their pathetic mobile AA weapons and other packs of armed forces. The 4th shift was still returning from its extremely successful run near Hami. But even still, this amounted to over 1 000 aircraft, if more were needed, another 500 were on standby ready to repell any attack on Hudecian airfields.

Anti tank weapon crews obliterated the unsupported armour units that did make it to the border (OOC: you don't 'rush' armour out in front of infantry /OOC) Mine fields in front of Hudecian lines stopped any sensible tank commanders in their tracks, but left them as sitting ducks. Infantry had a ball dropping grenades down into the T-90s before the now unsupported Daylami infantry arrived.

Rushing, bayonets drawn, into the murderous cross fires set up by Hudecian forces, the battle-hardened veterans of the Drapol campaigns fell the Daylami troops by the thousands. Daylam may have 1.5 million rookie combat troops attacking, but Hudecia had 200 000 of the best trained and equiped troops in the world. It would take a lot more than Daylam had to crack these nuts.

The demoralized and exhausted Daylami forces, who had been forced to rebuild their defences several times a day and be ready to evacuate their positions at a moments notice, would be forced back today in face of the greater abilities and skills of the Hudecian Armed Forces.

OOC (again) rushing with assault rifles and bayonets??? .. give me a break... Drapol only did that because he had such a highly indoctrinated society and because he could afford to lose millions of men in a single assault. Besides, in the Drapol war I never had this many men so densely concentrated.

And what gave you the impression that my tank divisions were not in good condition? We have extensive air cover... and support from all the allied nations. Don't godmod.

OOC: Taiwan never said he made a rolling attacks! He posted one air assault and then didnt ever make one again. Show me where he said they were going on continually and then I will say you are right and it was godmod!

Also, I chose my words wrong, you misunderstood them.

1. They arent rushing ahead, they are simply rushing to your forces, with the nessecary support, if you see, it says AND, not AHEAD OF
2. I didnt mean your tanks are in bad condition. It was a completely misusage of words of my part. I was trying to say you had a smaller amount then me.

Also, Taiwan doesnt have any ground troops there. Sino never RP'ed ground troops close to yours, and neither did Taiwan.

I may god-mod somethings (and I learn and retract them), but you wont be able to get out of the strike by saying I godmodded them all.
IC


The artillery bombardment of Daylami positions caught the nessecary countermeasures sleeping. AA men looked towards the sky expecting to see the familiar sight of approaching Hudecian planes, only to be hit by an artillery shell. While the shells were not in any great volume capable of causing massive damage, they hit the Turks by surprise and caused much more damage than was needed. Almost a thousand AA men had to be replaced as the artillery shells slammed into their ranks. They were quickly moved in via Urumqi, but General Rao swore when he heard the news.

Meanwhile the strike force moved forward rapidly, as the masses of F-22s threw themselves at the enemy planes, just needing to stall them as the assault moved forward. Contrary to Hudecian beliefs, AA support moved with them, making sure the Hudecian planes that did try an assault were given a bloody nose first. The T-90s advanced alongside their supporters. With 1.5 million men, they could easily overwhelm the small Hudecian force. Granted, thousands were lost in the minefields, but it was a loss the Turks, having fought wars all their lives, could easily stomach. The armored fist of Daylam moved forward, in a great square formation. The front lines consisted of the veterans of the Central Asian wars, trained, grim, and battle-hardened. Their holes would be filled with the men who had only fought in Xinjiang, not as numerous as the former. It was hoped the Hudecian cancer would be radiated out of the war in one fell stroke.

OOC:


.....a large number of ICARUS antitank missiles to disable what little Hudecian armor was left...

There is where you said my armour was badly hit...


... T-90s raced ahead...

That is where your tanks raced 'ahead'

Be careful with your words... I can not read minds as hard as I try... so I go on what you say.

I also think you are missing the point about the minefields... let me try to show you ... suppose the box is your advancing tanks. When they hit the mine fields the front ranks are pretty much obliterated if you continue. Causing the remainder to clutter up and have to break out of formation to get around the burning or diabled hulks.


________ ______x
| | ------------> | x
| | hits minefield | x x= dead tanks
----------- -------- x

Typically, when a tank division hits a minefield they call in infantry to move forward and clear the minefield before the tanks continue on. To do otherwise will cause this effect, which destroys the cohesion of the attack. Or... the tank division withdraws and tries to move around the mine field... (into kill zones set up by the defenders)

Instead of having one massive attack you have several small ones which are easily repulsed. Granted.. with over 1.5 million men in support I am going to be forced back a little way and suffer casualties, but not before I make your men pay for every inch with their lives.

I'd also like to see if my allies are going to support me against your strike. If they do... we'll have to account for that... if not... then I will indeed be isolated.

In any case.. your advance out of Xinjiang is very bad PR.. attacking outside of the territory seems very imperialistic, and reinforces the idea that you are simply a territory hungry tyrant.

OOC: About the little armor, yes, that was a very bad choice of words. However, you didnt quote the rest of the part about the T-90s. It says they raced ahead, AS DID the infantry.

Also, let's assume everything is succesful. The army rushes ahead, destroys the Hudecians. They are then going to withdraw back to Xinjiang. I dont plan on keeping any territory, and Im going to state that right now ICly.


About the minefields, I never said the tanks would try to keep advancing even when hitting them. Infantry will be sent forth to disable them, or, failing that, to simply detonate them along certain paths so the tanks can move forward.
IC


General Rao made a public statement about the recent Daylami offensive directed at Hudecian troops, reinforcing what was already known in Daylam: this was not a land-grab attempt. After the conclusion of the operation Daylami forces would withdraw back into East Turkestan (Xinjiang).

Meanwhile, the Hudecian minefields caused thousands of Turkic infantry to lose their lives in failed attempts to disable them. Nevertheless, they got the job done, and the armored divisions rolled onward to punch into the Hudecian forces.

OOC again: The strike was meant to be fast, designed to cripple this group of men, and then withdraw back into Xinjiang, having hopefully knocked another participant out of the war.

AA support was plentiful, having been formed from as-yet fresh men, not disturbed by lack of sleep or any other malfactors.
The supporting infantry trotted alongside the tanks, bringing artillery, and shoulder-launched ICARUS and TA-1 misiles for fighting air strikes and tanks.

OOC:


..."They are attacking with over a million men?" General Chellis asked rhetorically. "Good... with that many men they'll be so uncoordinated they'll be easily destroyed."...

You cant assume that his troops will be uncoordinated and easily destroyable. This is godmod #1.

...Only 2 of the remaining 3 shifts of Hudecian strike aircraft were launched at the approaching Daylami forces, making minch meat out of their pathetic mobile AA weapons and other packs of armed forces...

Its his job to report any sort of casualties whatsoever, not yours. If those AA guns have the chance to fire at you, then you have to report at least some damage. This is godmod #2.

Rushing, bayonets drawn, into the murderous cross fires set up by Hudecian forces, the battle-hardened veterans of the Drapol campaigns fell the Daylami troops by the thousands. Daylam may have 1.5 million rookie combat troops attacking, but Hudecia had 200 000 of the best trained and equiped troops in the world. It would take a lot more than Daylam had to crack these nuts.

Once again, you cant report your enemies losses. Saying 'Drapol campaigns fell the Daylami troops by the thousands' is a godmod. Also, you cant assume the 1.5 million troops are rookies. A good majority may be veteran fighters. This is godmod #3

The demoralized and exhausted Daylami forces, who had been forced to rebuild their defences several times a day and be ready to evacuate their positions at a moments notice, would be forced back today in face of the greater abilities and skills of the Hudecian Armed Forces.

Once again (wow this is getting boring), it is not your place to say that the Daylami forces are 'demoralized and exhausted'. Also, you cant assume that his forces will be forced back. This is godmod #4

Don't godmod.

.... Dont godmod?.... In that rambling RP you yourself managed to produce 4 class A instances of godmodding. Congrats.... and think twice before you accuse someone else of godmodding.

OOC:[/b[ Sorry I haven't been posting, my computer has been messing up.

Doujin, yes the Doujin is post modern. Your excuse is that the idea was orginally concieved in 1997, well I'm sorry to say but technology is at least 25 years ahead of what is used on the battlefield.

For example, tank designs all are based around '70s concepts and technology, and the M16, having been used since Vietnam in finally being replaced. If that type of armor is researched in 1997, it probably won't be used until the 2020s. It will take nothing less than a nuclear strike on your parts to even have a hope of destroying those ships.

Now, if you have something to say do it through TG, I don't want to clutter up this thread.

Granzi, could you pleast post losses from my return fire?

[b]IC:

Daylami Waters
On board the Glacier Class Destroyer the SRS DD-1A Achilles

Things had gotten quiet for now.

The Shinoxian fleets had been re-enforced by her allies Gaia Rodina and Daylam.

However, so had Granzi, Pacific Northwestria had sent in Fleets.

The two opposing sides were on a collision course, whichever side won the Naval engagement would control the seas, giving Daylam the advantage on the ground war.

Shinoxian ships had been refitted at sea, damaged by Granzi attacks, they were ready.

Shinoxian Head Commodore Allan McNeil would set up a joint attack against the enemy fleets, they were to be completely decimated.

The Allied ships were ready to move out and destroy the Granzian and Pacific Northwestrian ships.

He would set up the attack.

OOC: The idea? I'm talking the actual metal was produced in 1997. If you are accepting Dancing Moose and Feazanthia's "Carlyle" and "Feazanthia", then you will be accepting the Doujin Class as well.

Furthremore, there isn't a real drive in military technologies because there is no major 'threat. In NS, there is a constant drive to implement new technologies onto the Battlefield (re: SCRAMJets that you all claim to be using; by your logic that shouldn't be aruond until 2025 - seeing as testing on scramjet shells is only really recent.. 2002-2003..)

Simply put, you want to ignore the Doujin because it can literally kick your ass and you don't want your ass handed to you, and you have no basis for an ignore. I will be attacking you and your allies here in support of Granzi, and if you ignore the attack I will simply post losses for you. Godmoddy you say? Well, you ignoring something because you would lose is a godmod in itself.

And in regards to a nuclear strike.. it would not take a nuclear strike to destroy a Doujin Class, but that's all you guys are thinking of because you don't want to bother with being creative and to find a way to destroy it on your own.

I will withdraw the Carlyle class just to ignore the Doujin, Doujin. I will ignore it anyway even if you say I have no basis because the thing completely ruins RP's.

You can post damage's for us, I dont care. Have fun doing it all day long.. they will still, and always will be, ignored.

OOC: Exactly how many Doujin-class are we talking here?

Base Camp 101
East Iran

The Shinoxians, fighting off boredom had finally been allowed to attack, hoping to knock the demoralized Hebrews out of the war.

The African 1st Fleet had been ordered to shell the Hebrews until dawn, when the Shinoxian Divisions would strike.

As Private First Class John Faulkner and Corporal Timothy Robertson played cards, they heard the rumbling sounds in the background.

"Got any threes?" PFC Faulkner asked.

The sound of Shinoxian V5 Bad Neighbors and V7 Thunderbolts whizzing across the night sky filled the two men's ears.

"Nah, go fish." Corporal Robertson answered.

The screaming sound of F-111X Aardvarks filled the sky as the aircraft took off from their carriers.

Timothy looked annoyed.

"How are we supposed to play with all this noise?" he asked.

"I mean, cruise missiles are flying all over this place, vehicles are being readied, I doubt by morning there will be much of an enemy left."

John laughed.

The Shinoxians were known for heavily bombing and bombarding their enemy before finishing them off on the ground.

"You know what, I'm going to try and get some sleep, goodnight Timmy." John yawned and layed back on his bunk.

"I guess I'll do the same," Robertson said, climbing into bed "well, goodnight I guess", he squeezed his friend's shoulder.

"Tim?"

"Yeah?"

"Don't do that man."

"Why?"

"It makes you look gay."

They both laughed, knowing Corporal Tim Robertson was married.

They fell asleep

Meanwhile, above Hebrew camps

"Target identified!" Arctic Subsider pilot Wilson Holdbrooks said, watching the Hebrews through his night vision.

"Dropping payload." The sounds of the aircraft dropping thousands of pounds of bombs awakened the Hebrews, the began to hop out of their tents.

Too late.

The camp caught on fire, Wilson's night vision goggles became very bright, stunning the pilot temporarily.

"Looks like a good hit." The Pilot said over his radio.

He knew more about the attack because his squadron deployed later. The enemy seemed surprised by the attack, they had lost some planes, but the mission had seemed successful so far.

There was a break in Naval shelling, waiting for the planes to complete their mission.

He had to turn back now, there would be more bombs to drop, the next time on enemy ships.

OOC:

Doujin, I am ignoring you mainly because most of my allies are, and an entire region is telling me too.

If DM and Gaia Rodina recognize you, then I will too and RP against your ships. And I doubt you will beat me beacause most of your ships, excluding the awesome battle ships, are pretty poorly designed and will result in some easy pickins'.

OOC: DM, Daylam, and GR, I'm making an attack on the Eastern Front and if you could spare some ships to shell the armies of Promise of Joshua and Chrisitians for Israel, it would help my ground war.

Any help is appreciated.

OOC: I could RP against the battleships, as I see no problem with a few innovative tactics easily disposing of his dreadnoughts. You all can close in, and RP the attacks on his supporting ships while I RP bringing down the battleships as I am fairly confident I can do, despite loss on my own part.

IC:

My fleet has arrived on scene, and upon the signalling of the Shinoxian fleet, I am diverting the 3rd and 4th battlegroups to shell and make aerial bombardments upon the armies of the Promise of Joshua and Chrisitians for Israel.

OOC: I could RP against the battleships, as I see no problem with a few innovative tactics easily disposing of his dreadnoughts. You all can close in, and RP the attacks on his supporting ships while I RP bringing down the battleships as I am fairly confident I can do, despite loss on my own part.

OOC: Oh, I'm very confident that DM, GR, you, and I could easily bring down the Doujin fleet, the battleships are the only thing to be worried about.

According to Doujin, a thread on the battleship could lift up a blue whale, how do you plan on attacking that.

My best bet, send in an underwater demolition team to plant highly explosive satchels and claymores all over the underbelly of the Doujin, then you might have a shot.

If that's your plan, be ready to send in a lot of SCUBA teams...

OOC: I could RP against the battleships, as I see no problem with a few innovative tactics easily disposing of his dreadnoughts. You all can close in, and RP the attacks on his supporting ships while I RP bringing down the battleships as I am fairly confident I can do, despite loss on my own part.

OOC: Check your TG's, Daylam... Doujin... if you will RP against Daylam only then the above will be fine with me. However, if attacks are made upon my fleet by the hands of Doujin then they will be ignored.

Oh, you will see when/if it happens. I dont plan on vaporizing it, just disabling it, as Im sure what I have in mind would do. You, Gaia Rodina, and Dancing Moose can crush his other ships while I move in on the battleships and do what I think will work.

Oh, you will see when/if it happens. I dont plan on vaporizing it, just disabling it, as Im sure what I have in mind would do. You, Gaia Rodina, and Dancing Moose can crush his other ships while I move in on the battleships and do what I think will work.

OOC: He has 7 Doujins. Good luck, as I am pretty sure I will have no part in it.

Oh, you will see when/if it happens. I dont plan on vaporizing it, just disabling it, as Im sure what I have in mind would do. You, Gaia Rodina, and Dancing Moose can crush his other ships while I move in on the battleships and do what I think will work.

OOC: He has 7 Doujins. Good luck, as I am pretty sure I will have no part in it.

OOC:

Well since a Doujin takes 45 years to build, I don't really see how he could have that many so soon...but oh well.

Gaia Rodina and I could shut down the rest of his fleet if you think you could take the battleships. If DM helped we would win pretty easily...

GR, might want to contact Kisto...

We did make an OOC thread people:

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=146404&highlight=

Please use it!

OOC: 'One Million troops' indicates costly human wave tactics. Due to the sheer concentration and the lack of mechanisation (imagine how many APCs/IFVs it would take to move one million troops, let alone support craft), they would make easy targets, and thus, be susceptible to large losses.

OOC: a question to the SLOA bloc - how do you move your ships from Antartica so quickly?

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Chengdu
Zhang and Chiang's office burst into sudden and racious applause. They were watching the official declaration of war just a few hours ago, just recived via the delayed feed.

"Colonel!"
A knock was heard on the door.
"What?"
"The ROCA has arrived."
The ROCA was coming? This was great news!
"250,000 over the next fortnight."

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With air superiority established over China proper, a loitering AWACS continues to monitor the skies and a CAP is formed.

For the first time ever, the ROCAF begins the launch of SLARMs. In the first hour of their use, 240 are launched.

(Think cruise missile crossed with ALARM (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/europe/alarm.htm))

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the masses of F-22s returned to hurl themselves at the lone Hudecian aircraft, in far greater number. AA defenses began a massive attack rigth before the fighters arrived. Meanwhile, infantry deepened their tunnels, and simply moved to ones away from the Hudecian air strike, returning after the strike zone was re-designated to repair them.

Taiwanese 5th Air Defence Squadron (24 IDF-3 Interdiction Aircraft)

"Chin wants us to look at the AWACS feed."
"Roger that. Let's see what we've got."

The AWACS feed appeared on the digital cockpit, showing the Daylami F-22s approaching Hudecian aircraft.

"Let's take'em down now."

Up close, the F-22 had the advantage and was a much more capable dogfighter, but at the range of 83km and having a massive missile load, the large and powerful IDF-3 was much better at BVR roles.

With a hiss and a roar, and on semi-active AWACS guidance that would not give away the position of the missile or the IDF-3 squadron, a missile is fired at every Daylami F-22 in the air. (Each IDF-3, being in interdiction fitout, is carrying 44 Meteor BVRAAMs and 4 Python V missiles)

7 Doujins? Yes, but surely he wont dispatch his entire battleship force towards Daylam to leave him defenseless? Someone could just land an invasion force and remove Doujin forever.

I think Doujin reminds me of Germany and Britain in pre-WWI, too scared to risk their massive, expensive battleships in a battle. I couldnt care less, but I think I sink those suckers.

We did make an OOC thread people:

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=146404&highlight=

Please use it!

OOC: 'One Million troops' indicates costly human wave tactics. Due to the sheer concentration and the lack of mechanisation (imagine how many APCs/IFVs it would take to move one million troops, let alone support craft), they would make easy targets, and thus, be susceptible to large losses.

OOC: a question to the SLOA bloc - how do you move your ships from Antartica so quickly?

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Chengdu
Zhang and Chiang's office burst into sudden and racious applause. They were watching the official declaration of war just a few hours ago, just recived via the delayed feed.

"Colonel!"
A knock was heard on the door.
"What?"
"The ROCA has arrived."
The ROCA was coming? This was great news!
"250,000 over the next fortnight."

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With air superiority established over China proper, a loitering AWACS continues to monitor the skies and a CAP is formed.

For the first time ever, the ROCAF begins the launch of SLARMs. In the first hour of their use, 240 are launched.

(Think cruise missile crossed with ALARM (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/europe/alarm.htm))

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the masses of F-22s returned to hurl themselves at the lone Hudecian aircraft, in far greater number. AA defenses began a massive attack rigth before the fighters arrived. Meanwhile, infantry deepened their tunnels, and simply moved to ones away from the Hudecian air strike, returning after the strike zone was re-designated to repair them.

Taiwanese 5th Air Defence Squadron (24 IDF-3 Interdiction Aircraft)

"Chin wants us to look at the AWACS feed."
"Roger that. Let's see what we've got."

The AWACS feed appeared on the digital cockpit, showing the Daylami F-22s approaching Hudecian aircraft.

"Let's take'em down now."

Up close, the F-22 had the advantage and was a much more capable dogfighter, but at the range of 83km and having a massive missile load, the large and powerful IDF-3 was much better at BVR roles.

With a hiss and a roar, and on semi-active AWACS guidance that would not give away the position of the missile or the IDF-3 squadron, a missile is fired at every Daylami F-22 in the air. (Each IDF-3, being in interdiction fitout, is carrying 44 Meteor BVRAAMs and 4 Python V missiles)

OOC: _Taiwan, if you read my earlier post you would have seen that my ships were not in Antarctica, but in an African port...

Shinoxia, Dancing Moose, do you have a thread for your naval/aircraft specs?

Shinoxia, Dancing Moose, do you have a thread for your naval/aircraft specs?

OOC: If you read my eariler post, you would have seen that I posted a link to my naval specs....

We did make an OOC thread people:

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=146404&highlight=

Please use it!

OOC: 'One Million troops' indicates costly human wave tactics. Due to the sheer concentration and the lack of mechanisation (imagine how many APCs/IFVs it would take to move one million troops, let alone support craft), they would make easy targets, and thus, be susceptible to large losses.

OOC: a question to the SLOA bloc - how do you move your ships from Antartica so quickly?

OOC: Hey sorry for not using the thread.. I will continue to from now on.

About the moving of ships, it was originally intended that my fleet would set sail from the Shinoxian colonies in Africa, since they had originally docked there after long drawn out sorties and training programs.

But I made the stupid mistake in sailing them from my home shipyards in Dancing Moose, so I can add some more time if you like... or I can edit it and make the RP more interesting.

7 Doujins? Yes, but surely he wont dispatch his entire battleship force towards Daylam to leave him defenseless? Someone could just land an invasion force and remove Doujin forever.

I think Doujin reminds me of Germany and Britain in pre-WWI, too scared to risk their massive, expensive battleships in a battle. I couldnt care less, but I think I sink those suckers.

OOC: Doujin has invested billions into coastal defense. He has the largest array of coastal defense weapons than any other island nation to my understanding... do you see it would be rather difficult to 'easily land forces there'.

Shinoxia, Dancing Moose, do you have a thread for your naval/aircraft specs?

I dont have a thread for the actual specs of each and every naval vessal and plane I have deployed....but I have the specs of the ships I myself have designed in Word if you like.

Shinoxia, Dancing Moose, do you have a thread for your naval/aircraft specs?

I don't have specs on the F-111X Aardvark yet, so I'll post it here. It's designed off the earlier Aardvark but more stealthy...

Description

After it became apparent to the leadership of Imperial Shinoxia that a new plane was needed to replace the aging Arctic Hare, work began on the F-111X Aardvark.

Many years ago, Shinoxian Air Core officials saw F-111 Aardvarks being tested by the United States, they found the plane so interesting that they pressured the leadership to buy some. The Shinoxian Air Core purchased 500 Aardvarks and they quickly became the best plane in the Core. However, the plane has become much older since then and was replaced with Arctic Hare’s and F-16s, but now that a new plane was needed the Aardvark was given another chance.

Dr. Allan Bearde of the infamous Antarctic Arms Inc., won the contract to design a new plane for the Shinoxian Air Core, a plane that would possess superiority over all others. Dr. Bearde had always admired the F-111 and decided to upgrade the old plane.

One of the first things Project Frozen Skies, the team that was to design the plane, did was to test how the original Aardvark flew. Dr. Bearde remembered the speed of the F-111 and was not surprised like the other doctors when it took off at Mach 2, and Mach 1.6 at low level. However, this new plane was to be a superiority fighter, and needed to be a little re-engineered.

For this a new engine was designed, the SHSE-1000, at high level the plane could travel Mach 1.9 at high level and Mach 1.6 at low level. The ceiling of the plane was decreased to 59,000 feet. Taking a hint from the F-22 Raptor, this speed was attainable without the use of afterburners, giving the aircraft no visible smoke and less likely to be detected by the enemy. The engine nozzles were made with ceramics, ceramics are harder to detect on radar so the team thought this to be a nice addition to the aircraft. Each of the two engines gives about 37,000 pounds of thrust to the plane, a lot of power when compared to the F-16s 25,000 pounds.

After the engine was completed Project Frozen Skies moved on to one of the most important features of the F-111X Aardvark, stealth. When radar tracks a plane, the radar sends out a message, which bounces off the plane and comes back to the radar, giving the radar knowledge of where the plane is. To prevent this the Aardvark was re-designed to have more of a triangular shape, making it hard for radar to “paint” it. When radar targets and tries to track it, the radar can be scrambled and scattered by the Aardvark, sending radar waves in different directions, but not back to the radar. This nice trick was complemented by some other stealth technology, like making the Aardvark more aerodynamic. If a plane is not very aerodynamic, it can encounter fierce wind resistance, which can cause turbulence and thus have the aircraft detected. When the Aardvark was given a triangular shape, an enemy plane’s laser radar detection system became less likely to detect it, because of so little air turbulence.

Other stealth techniques were added to the F-111X Aardvark. When the SHSE-1000 engine was designed, it was built without afterburners, slowing down the plane some but making it less likely to be detected. When an aircraft kicks on it’s afterburners the plane’s heat raises and makes it easy to detect with thermal imaging, the SHSE-1000 has no afterburners so it is much harder to detect with thermal imaging. With no visible smoke, the plane is hard to see with the naked eye. The cockpit was built to have a low profile, making it far less likely to be so easily detected by radar. More curves were added to the plane to break up the radar signature, every little bit helps.

One of the last things to be done in the stealth area of the plane was in the paint scheme. Most stealth aircraft were painted with radar absorbent paint, this way the aircraft would be harder to detect. However, the team was asked for the plane to have a “camouflage” look so the two ideas clashed. New techniques of hiding an aircraft with paint were used and eventually a radar absorbent paint was developed that worked as well as regular paint but could be painted in a camouflage pattern. On most aircraft, their antennas, which they use to communicate with other planes and bases, are used to detect them. To reduce antenna detection antennas were removed and “laser communication” was added. To send a message to an Aardvark an Air Core base would send a message to the GASP satellite, which would direct a laser with the message to an F-111X. If an F-111X pilot wanted to send a message to another pilot he would say his message into the comms, then end it with “over”. This feature of GASP is voice recognition and upon hearing “over” GASP would send the message to the other pilot. This way antenna detection was eliminated and regular communication improved with a more stable line.

Finally, the stealth area of the plane was completed and the last part of the plane was to be finished, the armament. The F-111 Aardvark was originally designed to be a fighter/bomber, Project Frozen Skies had been assigned to make it solely a fighter due to the success of the Arctic Subsider stealth bomber, and the plane needed a greater bite.

The highly successful M61A1 cannon was added to the nose of the plane, not something you want to get hit by. The 4 bombs originally on the F-111 were replaced with 4 ADD-100 medium-range missiles, these Arctic Detect and Destroy missiles were designed to be a compact, yet powerful, medium range missile to be installed on the main weapons bay of the Aardvark. On the weapon bays below the Aardvark, 4 AIM-9 Sidewinder air-to-air missiles were installed. All in all, an impressive armament.

Only a few more things were added to the F-111X Aardvark, one was to make a shorter naval version, the F-111XN. The only change is a shortened chassis.

The F-111X was tested and proved to be the best aircraft to ever be used by the Shinoxian Air Core. Already, the Aardvark is replacing MiGs and other fighters. It has been viewed by many to be one of the best planes in the world and is expecting to be the main plane of the SAC until 2020

Specifications:

Contractor: Antarctic Arms Inc.,
Role: Air Superiority Fighter/Crew: 1
Powerplant: 2 SHSE-1000 engines
Thrust: 37,000 pounds
Length: 67 feet, 7 inches
Height: 16 feet, 5 inches
Wingspan: 57 feet
Weight: 41,065 pounds
Ceiling: 59,000 feet
Range: 2,300+ miles
Armament: 1 M16A2 cannon on nose (1,000 rounds of ammunition); 4 ADD 100 medium range missiles on main missile bay; 4 AIM-9 Sidewinder air-to-air missiles on side weapon bays.
Unit Cost: 100 million Air Core; 105 million Naval version (F-111XN)

Picture (http://www.luftfahrtmuseum.com/drwg/s/f111.gif)

The F-22 pilots eject as many go down in flames, but their numbers are not quenched, and their resolve to bring down the harassing Hudecian fighters is kindled. They speed up, as more of them go down in flaming hulks. There missiles soar out of their holds, speeding away towards the Hudecian aircraft. Each knew the cause of their destruction was Taiwanese aircraft, but they just could not pinpoint them. Nevermind, the horrendous amount of F-22s would make sure Hudecian strike aircraft were crippled. If it was at the cost of Daylami fighters, so be it. Their numbers grow as more and more set off, adding to the carnage was missiles zigzag across the air, Taiwanese and Turkic in origin.\
Another forty aircraft are lost as the Raptors aim to end their troop's harassment once and for all.

Meanwhile, as thousands of dead Turks lay in the minefields, the T-90s resume their thunderous advance, the support marching right alongside them. Artillery thunders into the Hudecian forces, so recently arrived, and the veteran front lines, having fought in the Fatimid and Central Asian campaigns, spears into the Hudecian lines. The Hudecian tumor would be removed from the war, and the Turks were remove themselves back to their fortifications.

Meanwhile, the extra one million men from Iran reach the center of the TPQD, and began their final journey from Samarkand to Hami.

The fighter pilots of the 5th Squadron are elated, as many of the F-22 radar signatures increase dramatically in size and then fade away, indicating successful hits.

By now, the aircraft from several squadrons, totalling around 400, are a few minutes away and nearly within range, while more aircraft are launched from bases in Chengdu.

OOC-Good GOD, Doujin. Do you SERIOUSLY have a metal rod shoved SO far up your ass that you would ruin this RP for us, just to spite us? Whatever's wrong with you is no small thing.

I withdraw the Feazanthia so that the Doujins may be ignored.

OOC:


..."They are attacking with over a million men?" General Chellis asked rhetorically. "Good... with that many men they'll be so uncoordinated they'll be easily destroyed."...

You cant assume that his troops will be uncoordinated and easily destroyable. This is godmod #1.


Haha... I was quoting one of my favourite generals... when he was outnumbered 10 to 1 this is the statement he made. I was not saying that is what happens.



...Only 2 of the remaining 3 shifts of Hudecian strike aircraft were launched at the approaching Daylami forces, making minch meat out of their pathetic mobile AA weapons and other packs of armed forces...

Its his job to report any sort of casualties whatsoever, not yours. If those AA guns have the chance to fire at you, then you have to report at least some damage. This is godmod #2.



Daylam does this all the time (check his battles with Xiaguo). Still I didn't give any definate numbers, I was giving a general idea of what happened, so it is not godmodding.




Rushing, bayonets drawn, into the murderous cross fires set up by Hudecian forces, the battle-hardened veterans of the Drapol campaigns fell the Daylami troops by the thousands. Daylam may have 1.5 million rookie combat troops attacking, but Hudecia had 200 000 of the best trained and equiped troops in the world. It would take a lot more than Daylam had to crack these nuts.

Once again, you cant report your enemies losses. Saying 'Drapol campaigns fell the Daylami troops by the thousands' is a godmod. Also, you cant assume the 1.5 million troops are rookies. A good majority may be veteran fighters. This is godmod #3



His nation is extremely small, he has a larger navy than I do, he claims to have more armour than I do... etc...

I think I have the right to claim that all 1.5 million of his men aren't vets. Besides.. vets of what wars?! This is the first major war Daylam is involved in.



The demoralized and exhausted Daylami forces, who had been forced to rebuild their defences several times a day and be ready to evacuate their positions at a moments notice, would be forced back today in face of the greater abilities and skills of the Hudecian Armed Forces.

Once again (wow this is getting boring), it is not your place to say that the Daylami forces are 'demoralized and exhausted'. Also, you cant assume that his forces will be forced back. This is godmod #4



Wow.. I am getting tired of saying this... he can not ignore my air raids on his lines... he had to move his men around into tunnels to hide from my strikes, he had to rebuild them.. and now he wants them to go charging through minefields... jeez... soldiers aren't machines.. they fear just like everyone else and get tired just like anyone else. If he won't recognize that then I have to tell him.



Don't godmod.

.... Dont godmod?.... In that rambling RP you yourself managed to produce 4 class A instances of godmodding. Congrats.... and think twice before you accuse someone else of godmodding. [/quote]

Well... as I have just shown.. I didn't godmod. and if I did... he godmodded worse... so... why don't you stop and watch your ally godmod?

The center of the Hudecian lines seemed to waver and break but the flanks were holding strong. Hudecian units in the center were falling back after being hit by the strong Daylami advance. Hudecian casualties were light but in the face of overwhelming numbers they could not hold.

With Taiwanese aircraft supporting, Hudecian strike fighters watched as the Daylami ground forces were hit over and over again by attacks but still seemed to advance relentlessly.

As the Daylam forces pushed forward they came under increased fire from their flanks. Pushing through the burning hulks left in the minefield would cause their formation great distress and left them more vulnerable to Hudecian anti-tank weaponry.

In the command tent General Chellis watched the reports with increased interest.

"How is your wife?" He asked his second-in-command finally. "I hear that she is going into labour." His second-in-command stared at his commander in shock. It seemed that Daylam was overrunning the center of their lines and here he was cit-chatting as if everything was alright.

The final wave of 500 Hudecian aircraft were launched to support the 1 000 already in the air fighting off the Daylami F-22s and harassing the advance.

OOC: You moved 1 million men from Iran to Xinjiang overnight... jeez.. then why don't I say that I moved 1 million men overnight too? Be realistic.

How many F-22s do you claim to have? And be realistic Daylam...

"Admiral Michaels! Admiral Michaels! There seems to be a big ol' land battle going on without us. Response, sir?"
"Who is attacking whom? How are the enemy formed?"
"Well, sir, they are composed of a large square block of a million troops (probably less by now) with large quantities of AA, AT, and tank support."
"And they are the attackers?"
"Yes, Admiral Sir. It appears that their tanks are making a rapid, thunderous assault across a minefield, with their infantry marching next to them and mysteriously keeping up."
"Right then. How are the defenders faring?"
"They're doing OK for now, Admiral, but the sheer numbers of Daylam may overwhelm them. What is our response?"

(OOC: Please give exact location of this battle, including distances from anything important. This matters greatly in my response. Unlike Daylam, I will not claim something unrealistic and then change it to whatever the "shoulda-done" suggestion is from the other side. I will wait for someone to tell me the information that I would already have IC.)

OOC: Are Promise of Joshua and Christians for Israel still in the war, their on my front and I'm trying to advance but can't get a reply?

Also, can you give me a casulty report Granzi, I made mine...

still waiting for reply.....

OOC: PN:
The land battle is just over the border of Xinjiang near Anxi.

Daylam is assaulting Hudecian forces (1.5 million vs 200 000) but Taiwanese aircraft are supporting. Other allies have not yet responded (I'm looking at you Granzi and Xiaguo)

I have the same questions PN... but I'm willing to ignore it as long as he takes some serious casualties.

OOC-Good GOD, Doujin. Do you SERIOUSLY have a metal rod shoved SO far up your ass that you would ruin this RP for us, just to spite us? Whatever's wrong with you is no small thing.

I withdraw the Feazanthia so that the Doujins may be ignored.
OOC: I have 7 Doujin's, and 6 shipyards to build a Doujin Class total. I waited a long time to anounce the finished construction of the other 6, seeing as I started it when I had 700 million in population and I now have 1.056 billion. At about 3-6 million increase in population per day.. that's about 60+ days to reach a billion, give or take a few..

Feazanthia, you and Dancing Moose built a Counter to the Doujin, and I was only going to use two in this conflict... but seeing as you two want to withdraw the three ships, I will not use the Doujins.

Fleets being sent:
1st Assault Fleet - Deployed, en route Daylam
2nd Assault Fleet - Deployed, en route Daylam
Hrafn Warband(4th Assault Fleet) - Deployed, en route Daylam
5th Doujin Battleflee - Deployed, en route - Daylam
9th Doujin Battlefleet - Deployed, en route - Daylam
16th Doujin Battlefleet - Deployed, en route - Daylam
17th Doujin Battlefleet - Deployed, en route - Daylam
18th Doujin Battlefleet - Deployed, en route - Daylam
19th Doujin Battlefleet - Deployed, en route - Daylam
27th Doujin Battlefleet - Deployed, en route - Daylam
28th Doujin Battlefleet - Deployed, en route - Daylam
29th Doujin Battlefleet - Deployed, en route - Daylam
30th Doujin Battlefleet - Deployed, en route - Daylam

(Total being sent)Numbers:
6 Leviathon Class Battleships
19 Thunder Child Class Mk.2 Refit Battleships
13 Lunar Class (Stealth) Aircraft Carriers
6 Infusion Class Aircraft Carriers
15 Warspite Class (SSGN)
95 Astron Class Fast Attack Submarine (SSN)
30 Tigershark Class AOE
15 River Class AOE
65 Clan Grant Class AOR
30 Norasia Class Auxilaries
75 Centaur Class Destroyers/Cruisers
50 Meteora Class Destroyers
30 Mackensen Class Battleships
60 Dauntless Class Destroyers
50 Thatcher Class Destroyers
20 Oakleaf Class Assault Ships
15 Africa Class Minelayer/hunter
25 Saviour Class Medical Ships
Total Number:
Surface Combatants: 434
Auxilary ships: 185
Capital Ships: 74
Total Ships: 619

OOC-Good GOD, Doujin. Do you SERIOUSLY have a metal rod shoved SO far up your ass that you would ruin this RP for us, just to spite us? Whatever's wrong with you is no small thing.

I withdraw the Feazanthia so that the Doujins may be ignored.
OOC: I have 7 Doujin's, and 6 shipyards to build a Doujin Class total. I waited a long time to anounce the finished construction of the other 6, seeing as I started it when I had 700 million in population and I now have 1.056 billion. At about 3-6 million increase in population per day.. that's about 60+ days to reach a billion, give or take a few..

Feazanthia, you and Dancing Moose built a Counter to the Doujin, and I was only going to use two in this conflict... but seeing as you two want to withdraw the three ships, I will not use the Doujins.

Fleets being sent:
1st Assault Fleet - Deployed, en route Daylam
2nd Assault Fleet - Deployed, en route Daylam
Hrafn Warband(4th Assault Fleet) - Deployed, en route Daylam
5th Doujin Battleflee - Deployed, en route - Daylam
9th Doujin Battlefleet - Deployed, en route - Daylam
16th Doujin Battlefleet - Deployed, en route - Daylam
17th Doujin Battlefleet - Deployed, en route - Daylam
18th Doujin Battlefleet - Deployed, en route - Daylam
19th Doujin Battlefleet - Deployed, en route - Daylam
27th Doujin Battlefleet - Deployed, en route - Daylam
28th Doujin Battlefleet - Deployed, en route - Daylam
29th Doujin Battlefleet - Deployed, en route - Daylam
30th Doujin Battlefleet - Deployed, en route - Daylam

(Total being sent)Numbers:
6 Leviathon Class Battleships
19 Thunder Child Class Mk.2 Refit Battleships
13 Lunar Class (Stealth) Aircraft Carriers
6 Infusion Class Aircraft Carriers
15 Warspite Class (SSGN)
95 Astron Class Fast Attack Submarine (SSN)
30 Tigershark Class AOE
15 River Class AOE
65 Clan Grant Class AOR
30 Norasia Class Auxilaries
75 Centaur Class Destroyers/Cruisers
50 Meteora Class Destroyers
30 Mackensen Class Battleships
60 Dauntless Class Destroyers
50 Thatcher Class Destroyers
20 Oakleaf Class Assault Ships
15 Africa Class Minelayer/hunter
25 Saviour Class Medical Ships
Total Number:
Surface Combatants: 434
Auxilary ships: 185
Capital Ships: 74
Total Ships: 619


OOC: Much better...

Before you start attacking, wait until DM, GR, and Daylam reply...

OOC-Good GOD, Doujin. Do you SERIOUSLY have a metal rod shoved SO far up your ass that you would ruin this RP for us, just to spite us? Whatever's wrong with you is no small thing.

I withdraw the Feazanthia so that the Doujins may be ignored.
OOC: I have 7 Doujin's, and 6 shipyards to build a Doujin Class total. I waited a long time to anounce the finished construction of the other 6, seeing as I started it when I had 700 million in population and I now have 1.056 billion. At about 3-6 million increase in population per day.. that's about 60+ days to reach a billion, give or take a few..

Feazanthia, you and Dancing Moose built a Counter to the Doujin, and I was only going to use two in this conflict... but seeing as you two want to withdraw the three ships, I will not use the Doujins.

Fleets being sent:
1st Assault Fleet - Deployed, en route Daylam
2nd Assault Fleet - Deployed, en route Daylam
Hrafn Warband(4th Assault Fleet) - Deployed, en route Daylam
5th Doujin Battleflee - Deployed, en route - Daylam
9th Doujin Battlefleet - Deployed, en route - Daylam
16th Doujin Battlefleet - Deployed, en route - Daylam
17th Doujin Battlefleet - Deployed, en route - Daylam
18th Doujin Battlefleet - Deployed, en route - Daylam
19th Doujin Battlefleet - Deployed, en route - Daylam
27th Doujin Battlefleet - Deployed, en route - Daylam
28th Doujin Battlefleet - Deployed, en route - Daylam
29th Doujin Battlefleet - Deployed, en route - Daylam
30th Doujin Battlefleet - Deployed, en route - Daylam

(Total being sent)Numbers:
6 Leviathon Class Battleships
19 Thunder Child Class Mk.2 Refit Battleships
13 Lunar Class (Stealth) Aircraft Carriers
6 Infusion Class Aircraft Carriers
15 Warspite Class (SSGN)
95 Astron Class Fast Attack Submarine (SSN)
30 Tigershark Class AOE
15 River Class AOE
65 Clan Grant Class AOR
30 Norasia Class Auxilaries
75 Centaur Class Destroyers/Cruisers
50 Meteora Class Destroyers
30 Mackensen Class Battleships
60 Dauntless Class Destroyers
50 Thatcher Class Destroyers
20 Oakleaf Class Assault Ships
15 Africa Class Minelayer/hunter
25 Saviour Class Medical Ships
Total Number:
Surface Combatants: 434
Auxilary ships: 185
Capital Ships: 74
Total Ships: 619


OOC: You said you had 400-some ships here earlier, are you sending in another 400? If so please re-evaluate your numbers...

I have around 125.
Granzi has 170.
DM has around 125.
GR has around 235.
Daylam has about 100.

The four hundred ships you have now will keep the odds even, no need to send in any more.

OOC: The fleet numbers I gave today were the same as a few days ago posted in the "Fleet Movement" thread.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=149692

OOC: My question is how a nation as small as Gaia Rodina can support so many (seemingly advanced) vessels.

OOC: Sorry everyone, I was busy in RL and could not respond. What is up with all of the uber battleships coming up? Gaia Rodina, I'm older and I don't have such a thing. (Not saying that you should not have one though.)

IC:

Granzian naval forces were taking a heavy beating from the numerous scramjet rounds. To the right of the Valiant, several struck a nearby Helina Battlecruiser, lighting off explosions. They pierced the hull near the bridge, killing everyone inside; and then hit the lower levels, smashing though the crew's quarters. One of the rounds manages to detonate next door to the magazine, setting off a fireball that engulfed the vessel. A few minutes later, it sank into the oily water.

The Adari destroyer Eliza is knocked out of the water with a succesion of successful hits. The forward turrent was knocked out and black smoke was seen belching from the engine rooms. Below the waterline, multiple fractures let seawater pour in, flooding the aft area. The survivors cast away on lifeboats, gathering everything they could. The Eliza slipped below 2 hours later.

The admiral stared at the damage reports as they flooded in. Several destroyers and frigates were complete wrecks while most vessels underwent light to moderate damage. A Roydia Class Battleship was disabled, and listing in the water. He gave the order. "If the Shinoxians want to play with fire, then that's what they will get. Begin loading the GN-50."

A new missile fresh out of Hybalt R&D, the GN-50 was designed to cause devestating damage to sea targets. Designed as anti-ship, the body is taken up by a massive charge of explosives. The 1,400 pound warhead is sandwiched between propulsion and guidance systems. State of the art fire control locks onto the target, and ignores most counter-measures. Though the round is slower due to the bulk, it is able to cause heavy damage within a 150 meter radius.

A ripple was formed every time the guns sounded. The shockwave spread in waves outward, causing the sea to foam with energy. Hundreds of cruise missiles were lauched from the Portlandia Cruisers, quickly followed by masses of Harpoon and Tomahawk missiles. The swarm headed toward the air defense (Destroyers and such).

The first group of aircraft split into their squadrons and began the runs. Flights of 6 Firebirds and Ultra Tomats targeted smaller ships, especially destroyers. Each group was assigned a specific ship as they went in. 12 Seabolt fighters glided into the fray, targeting the Goliath. Aiming at the base of the gun turrents, the pilot let loose their cargos. Bombs and ordinance rained downward, seeking out the weakest points in the ship. In this way, nearly every vessel was attacked, the planes seemed never-ending...

New orders where passed to the DMN Seydlitz, an Indomitable class battleship, to proceed and open fire upon the Granzi ships.

Approximately .5 seconds after the order was given, firing solutions where calculated and the VLS launchers opened up. The type of missile was selected according to the weather in the area. In total, 100 Moskit (Sunburn) anti-ship missiles where fired at the lead Granzian battleships. At 1,500 miles an hour, the missiles, each carrying a 500 pound, shaped explosive warhead, would easily make up the time between the two fleets.

The 1st, 2nd, and 3rd battlegroups (under cover of CAP) are moving to gun range of the Granzian ships.

((Side note- The Sunburn Missiles travel only 9 feet above the surface of the waves))

I'm off for the night.

OOC: I have a second wave of aircraft I'll send after you next, DM. (See earlier posts.) And I will see if I can't get rid of your CAP one way or another. How does the Sunburn missile travel that far above the water?

((How does it travel 'that far above the water'???..... it travels closer to the water than any other missile.))

OOC: Sorry everyone, I was busy in RL and could not respond. What is up with all of the uber battleships coming up? Gaia Rodina, I'm older and I don't have such a thing. (Not saying that you should not have one though.)

IC:

Granzian naval forces were taking a heavy beating from the numerous scramjet rounds. To the right of the Valiant, several struck a nearby Helina Battlecruiser, lighting off explosions. They pierced the hull near the bridge, killing everyone inside; and then hit the lower levels, smashing though the crew's quarters. One of the rounds manages to detonate next door to the magazine, setting off a fireball that engulfed the vessel. A few minutes later, it sank into the oily water.

The Adari destroyer Eliza is knocked out of the water with a succesion of successful hits. The forward turrent was knocked out and black smoke was seen belching from the engine rooms. Below the waterline, multiple fractures let seawater pour in, flooding the aft area. The survivors cast away on lifeboats, gathering everything they could. The Eliza slipped below 2 hours later.

The admiral stared at the damage reports as they flooded in. Several destroyers and frigates were complete wrecks while most vessels underwent light to moderate damage. A Roydia Class Battleship was disabled, and listing in the water. He gave the order. "If the Shinoxians want to play with fire, then that's what they will get. Begin loading the GN-50."

A new missile fresh out of Hybalt R&D, the GN-50 was designed to cause devestating damage to sea targets. Designed as anti-ship, the body is taken up by a massive charge of explosives. The 1,400 pound warhead is sandwiched between propulsion and guidance systems. State of the art fire control locks onto the target, and ignores most counter-measures. Though the round is slower due to the bulk, it is able to cause heavy damage within a 150 meter radius.

A ripple was formed every time the guns sounded. The shockwave spread in waves outward, causing the sea to foam with energy. Hundreds of cruise missiles were lauched from the Portlandia Cruisers, quickly followed by masses of Harpoon and Tomahawk missiles. The swarm headed toward the air defense (Destroyers and such).

The first group of aircraft split into their squadrons and began the runs. Flights of 6 Firebirds and Ultra Tomats targeted smaller ships, especially destroyers. Each group was assigned a specific ship as they went in. 12 Seabolt fighters glided into the fray, targeting the Goliath. Aiming at the base of the gun turrents, the pilot let loose their cargos. Bombs and ordinance rained downward, seeking out the weakest points in the ship. In this way, nearly every vessel was attacked, the planes seemed never-ending...

Daylami Waters
Onboard the Glacier Class Destroyer the SRS DD-2A Trojan

The Granzians were returning fire.

Midshipmen Theodore Gibbons watched as planes filled the night sky.

"Get those bombers out!" he screamed "keep them away from the small ships."

A Leopard Seal Class Frigate, took a hit, but it seemed to be alright as it returned fire.

Anti aircraft fire lit up the sky, he saw planes dropping bombs, he saw planes being shot down, he saw hell...

A Bomber went down in flames next to the Trojan. The planes just kept coming.

"Get the wounded to the hospital, move move!"

Some sailors carried away their comrade, he had been hit by what seemed to be a depleted uranium shell from a plane.

He no longer looked like a person.

A Brandenburg Class Anti Submarine Frigate was hit by bombs, it was going down. He identified it as the SRS FS-2A Surprise.

He watched as the ship exploded, shielding his eyes from the blinding light as the sailors were thrown into the air.

"Lifeboats, Lifeboats!" he yelled "Save as many as you can!"

Another plane went down.

He looked overhead at the F111X-Aardvarks taking off from their carriers, prepared to end the attack.

He wasn't sure what the losses were, but he knew a lot of ships had been at least damaged.

Remarkably, the Trojan seemed almost immune to the battle raging around it.

Suddenly, the Phalanx CIWS systems on the destroyer roared to life, he watched as what appeared to be a large missile blow up in the air.

The 3rd Armada prepared to return fire.

Lasers lit up the night as Scramjet Shells were fired from the Shinoxian ships.

Moments later he heard the booming sounds.

The 3rd Armada unleashed it's full power, using many missiles as well as shells in the return fire.

He heard sounds coming from another direction, the fleets of Dancing Moose had fired as well.

Once again, bright lights filled the air, followed by an explosive like sound.

The attack had ceased.

He looked as smoke bellowed from ships around the Trojan

OOC: Your air attack mainly hit the 3rd Fleet...

Losses:

1 Brandenburg Class Anti-Sub Frigate SRS FS-2A Surprise
1 Leopard Seal Class Frigate SRS FD-2A Devious
2 Ticonderoga Class Cruisers SRS CS-1A Invincible
SRS CS-2A Hellspawn

Many ships were damaged. My return fire is the largest so far, and remember DM fired too...

I believe it is my turn to attack... But to be fair I'll wait until tomorrow.

Xinjiang battle
Taiwanese air superiority interdiction aircraft continues their BVR engagement of Daylami F-22s. With many of the older aircraft (F-36T) serving on patrol duties, there have been no losses yet.

Chengdu
"They're here! They're here!"

The commotion woke General Zhang from his afternoon nap, but he knew it was important. As he looked out the window, he saw the most beautiful sight he had seen in a long time.

The Taiwanese flag, or as he liked to call it, the Nationalist China flag. Painted on the side of the dozens of BWB transports on the tarmac. He also knew that other airbases in the region would also be full of ROCA transports.

Next to them were the last of the S-200 ESTOL aircraft leaving, carrying troops and equipment to assist the Hudecian front lines.

((How does it travel 'that far above the water'???..... it travels closer to the water than any other missile.))

Sorry, that's what I meant. I'll post a little later.

OOC-Um...Doujin? It's only 278 ships. I supported more than that with my far smaller Feazanthia budget. I just don't increase my ship numbers every day. I save the surplus and use it later.

Will post later. Now...waffles.

OOC: I'm sending in an African Armada to finish the job with Granzi. Because of close proximity of Granzi it won't take very long.

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Scroll down until you see the Naval post...

((How does it travel 'that far above the water'???..... it travels closer to the water than any other missile.))

Sorry, that's what I meant. I'll post a little later.

((Oh, well... its designed for that specific purpose... sea skimming. It makes it extremely hard for CIWS guns to hit, because CIWS guns cant really aim that low to the water. Im still awaiting a damage report.))

OOC: Hudecia! For the third time I didnt send in the tanks by themselves into the minefields!! I sent in infantry to disable or otherwise run the mines over themselves! Stop saying my formations are breaking up!
This is DEFINATELY not the first major war I've fought. I have over a million veterans (in Xinjiang) that fought while Daylam was still a caliphate in Egypt against LowerEgyptian, Jarridian, and Matich forces. There are hundreds of thousands that fought with the defense forces and guerrillas of the Central Asian republics (dictatorships). There also are a million more veterans that fought in the first AZ and second Jarridian wars (brought about when he murdered my diplomatic representative to a peace conference, who also happened to be the current High Admiral).

Also, if Gaia Rodina can support 278 ships *I* sure as hell can support 270, and this is my entire navy, 3% of my 4% of pop military.
Finally, I didnt move them overnight. They are around eastern Kyrgyztan now. They were in central Uzbekistan Friday night.

Hudecia, what sort of SAM defense do you have around your air bases? Soviet or Western? Same question goes for you, Taiwan.


Also, Doujin, I really would like to test out an attack on the Doujin. Could you send atleast one Doujin, and even if everyone ignores it I'll be glad to duke it out with one.
IC


Outside Xinjiang

The advance continued, shots and shells whizzing horizontally, rockets vertically towards the strike aircraft harassing them. T-90 tanks made sickening crunches as they moved over the corpses of Turk and Han alike, most of the Turkic corpses having been lost in suicide runs over the minefields. The forces lurched forward, the veterans of Daylam moving forward, with a skill and precision they should not have had. Strike aircraft took a toll on their numbers, but the F-22s and AA fire took revenge on the Hudecian fighters.
F-22's continued to fall out of the sky, but they took a terrible toll on the Hudecian aircraft before an ROC missile struck them down. AIM missiles whizzed out of them before a long-range Taiwanese one crashed into an F-22. As on the ground, weight of numbers made sure the offensive continued, but the Raptors did not have many veterans. They made up for it by the easiness of the targets they faced.
Kül Tigin commanded from the back, occasionally going forward to lead a faltering advance. Wherever a Turk fell, ten moved forward to take his place. Fighting on equal terms with the Hudecians, he had confidence this would be the end of their little surprise entrance into the war.

Straits of Oman

The Daylami ships moved out into the night in close formation. The Doujinshi ships were far away for now, and only Granzian vessels were in the area, and they were under attack by Shinoxian, DM, and GR fleets. The TPN's concern at the moment was placing itself in a position where it could hold off the Doujin fleets long enough for the Shinoxian troops to land and end the war once and for all.

Northern, Eastern, and Western Iran

Daylami AA missiles, having so recently given Hebrew aircraft a bloody nose, had a nice rest as the Hebrew armies once again made a horrendously long stop. General Arslan calculated they would be back in action a few weeks later, laughingly, to the Shinoxian commander.

Yusuf was sightly nervous, as fully 1/3 of the men formerly under his command had been shipped to far off Xinjiang under the qaghan and General Rao. Like his ancestor, the great Alp Arslan, Yusuf hoped for a stunning victory in the west against Christian forces, one that would break their power and allow further Turkish expansion.

OOC (Again): I will be gone on a trip from Monday to Saturday, and unable to RP my armies and fleets at all. Please do not RP too many counter-attacks, new assaults, etc etc or I will just ignore them. Naval battles can go on, as that is where the most international involvement is, and I will consider leaving command of the TPN to Shinoxia while I am gone.
However, today and tonight I am availible so please try to get alot done

OOC:
*shrugs* see your point about the ships... guess maybe I have been underestimating how many ships/weapons I have. *shrugs* whatever...

Umm.. Daylam.. the reason why I assumed that you sent the tanks into the minefields is because they are right in front of my lines (sorry I should have said that earlier - my mistake) ... if you sent in infantry to disarm the mines they would be hit by machine gun fire from my defences. Of course... if you just ran men into the mine fields in a suicidal charge then you wouldn't have to (course that would mean a lot more casualties).

I figure I'm going to lose this battle, but I am drawing it out a little to have some fun and I have a plan to make sure this battle isn't a totally one-sided victory. Besides, destroying an army of 200 000 is difficult, even when you outnumber them 10 to 1.

But in any case, this one battle would not be the end of my participation. As I said, a second group is moving up to reinforce this front group soon enough.

I have mostly Western anti-air defences.

OOC: Exactly. I already said I lost a few thousand in suicidal runs to disable the minefields.

Also, if I destroy an entire 200,000 soldiers, popular support is likely to fall first of all, and second of all it means I dont have to deal with a united 400,000 men later on.

OOC: True... Still you can really bash them hard and demoralize them. But right now, my nation is on a media blackout, (we learned our lessons from Drapol) so the populace is totally in the dark about what is going on.

IC:

Hudecian infantry units were taking a heavy beating from the combined armour, infantry and artillery attacks of Daylam. So far, the Hudecian armoured divisions had stayed out of the fray and according to Daylami F-22s who managed to get far enough behind the battlelines before being destroyed, they were being held in reserve.

Within an hour of the beginning of the assault, Hudecian infantry units near the tip of the Daylami spearhead broke and retreated having used up the last of their heavy anti-tank equipment soon after the fighting started. They retreated quickly but orderly through pre-arranged corridors and through ditches that would be used as tank traps. The corridors were rigged with explosives to be detonated should Daylam troops try to follow.

Hudecian units began falling back forming a C-shaped buldge in the lines.

In the air, Hudecian F-22s and F-36s dogfighted Daylam F-22s throughout the day, while A-10s tried to evade assaults from the air and still accomplish their mission of attacking the Daylam formation.

Casualties were heavy both in the air and on the ground, but the Hudecian leadership still seemed confident that all was not lost.

So far:

4700 dead
12 000 wounded

67 F-22s destroyed or disabled
32 F-36Ts destroyed or disabled
23 A-10s destroyed or disabled

With nearly 10% of the Hudecian forces as casualties, General Rao could only predict that Hudecian military morale would plummet.

As soon as the first few T-90s hit the traps, immediately the armored divisions were pulled back, and a momentary lull fell over the ground, as in the air more missiles were traded off between dog-fighting planes.

The armor withdrew to a safe distance, and then opened up a massive assault on the corridors themselves, as a huge artillery barrage hit the same area. Hudecian soldiery got a brief reprieve from the massive amount of shells falling onto them and their artillery, as it slowed to a slower and yet still thunderous amount when the artillery re-concentrated their strength on the defenses in front of them. After the defenses were satisfactorily disable, the advance continued, as powerful as before.

As more and more Hudecian planes fell to the trained hordes of F-22 planes, Tigin brought up his own attack planes, consisting of A-10s and Apaches, adding AGM Maverick and Hellfire missiles to the already-sickening amount of artillery shells falling on Hudecian positions.

Rao was only minimally worried about the lack of Hudecian armor on the field, finding it funny how Hudecian infantry fell in droves to almost unchallenged armored strength. ICARUS missiles, Tyrandisian designed and able to cripple any tank in existance with a single shot, was still-unused, but Rao always had them at the ready if the Hudecian armor showed its face.



Casualties: 7,100 dead (large amount from suicidal mine runs), 14,000 injured.