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Al Anbar seizes Kuwait! (Invite Only, Closed)

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07-02-2004, 03:42
Safwan, Iraq. Eight kilometers from the Kuwaiti Border

The HQ for the 1st Army Corps was based in the small, quiet city of Safwan. In the weeks since the return of southern Iraq to Al Anbar, Army and Republican Guard units had been quietly been gathering at the border with Kuwait. Over 200,000 soldiers, backed by over 1,000 modern tanks, over 1,240 armored vehicles, and some 530 artillery pieces, had been placed along the border with Kuwait quietly.

It was an amazing fet. Officially, they were doing cleaning up operations near the border with Kuwait, and indeed, there had been a couple of battles with fleeing Shi'ite militiamen, but they were small engagements.

General Hashim Abdul Akbar sat in the house of a poor citizen in the city. The house was only a couple of rooms big, and he felt sorry for these people. Every day his troops would give food to these people. Even though the government of Al Anbar provided more than enough rations each month, the system had yet to catch up to such border regions.

Suddenly, the door to the house burst open and a messenger entered the house. He nodded to the family who had to put up with this daily occurance. He quickly went over to the General who was in eyesight of the door. The messenger soluted and then handed a message to the General.

General Akbar returned the solute and then took the message. He opened it and quickly read it.

Bismillah ir-Rahman ir-Rahim,

To Corps Commanders: 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th, Republican Guard 2nd, 3rd Corps

The time for us to return Kuwait to Iraq is quickly approaching. Kuwait was and will be ours again. We have learned that we cannot rush into Kuwait and seize the entire country. We will have to do this step by step.

The first step begins at 2:30 AM AST, 2/7/04. The forces of the 3rd Republican Guard Corps and the 1st Army Corps are to enter Kuwait and seize the two northern oil fields of Raudhatian and Sabriyah. Maps and other materials will be delivered shortly to your headquaters.

I know you and your soldiers will not fail Iraq or Al Anbar.

Allahu Akbar. Allahu Akbar. Allahu Akbar.

Saddam Hussein.

The General smiled. Finally, we are going to do something, he thought.

Quickly, he dismissed the messenger and prepared for the battle.
Maropian Coast
07-02-2004, 03:43
tag
07-02-2004, 03:56
Kuwaiti-Iraqi Border

The first attack started. It was just a minute after 2:30 AM AST. Hundreds of tanks, armored vehicles, and soldiers poured across the border into Northern Kuwait.

The Republican Guard was assigned with taking the southern most and largest oil fields of Sabriyah, while the 1st Army Corps was ordered to take the smaller oil field of Raudhatian.

The Kuwaiti defense was totally unprepared for such a thing. Kuwait had never thought that Iraq would enter Kuwait again and had not had any notice into the build up of Iraqi forces along the border. There were only the regular border guard units that had been deployed along the border, who had mostly gone home for the night, leaving the border practically unprotected.

Within three hours, both oil fields, the area around them, and the coastline near them were seized by Iraqi forces. They began to dig in and prepare for any Kuwaiti counterattack.
07-02-2004, 03:56
http://www.gulflink.osd.mil/owf_ii/images/fig30.gif
07-02-2004, 04:36
OOC: Bump.

Anyone want to be Kuwait?
Kihameria
07-02-2004, 04:38
tag,and one OOC question,are you actually attacking who owns kuwait,or are you playing that kuwait is netural ?
07-02-2004, 05:41
tag,and one OOC question,are you actually attacking who owns kuwait,or are you playing that kuwait is netural ?

OOC: No one is currently playing Kuwait. This is why I asked if someone wanted to.
07-02-2004, 05:58
Seeing the total lack of response from the world and from Kuwait itself, Iraqi forces have started a new operation into Kuwait. From the long, western border with Kuwait, the 2nd and 4th Army Corps pushed across the border and into Kuwait itself. Their tanks and armored vehicles toward the largest Kuwaiti oilfields of Magwa, Ahmadi, and Burgan Fields. At the same time, the 5th Army Corps also crossed the border at the corner of the Kuwaiti-Saudi-Iraqi border and sped toward Minagish and Umm Gudair oilfields along the Saudi border.

Forces have received very little resistance from the demoralized and spread out Kuwaiti forces. Kuwait City has now been encircled. Forces from the 3rd Republican Guard have moved into positions just outside of Kuwait City and are preparing to take the city by force if necessary.

From Iraqi intelligence, it appears that the only defense that will be put up in Kuwait City will be by the Royal Guards, who only number about 1,500 but are extremely loyal to the Kuwaiti government. Although there is a small number of Kuwaiti Army soldiers in the city, many have abandoned their positions and others are simply unwilling to fight and are planning their surrender.

The end of the Kuwaiti government is near.
07-02-2004, 06:03
Since Kuwait was slant-drilling into Iraq, we can understand their anger and motivation for an invasion... However, we call upon them to stand down, and resolve this peacefully.
Of the council of clan
07-02-2004, 06:10
OOC: Damnit, if i had noticed this sooner, i would RP'd it.

i would have used the 2 Brigades of M1A1 Abrams Kuwait has and the couple squadrons of F-18's


It would have given me nice chance to RP Armored Warfare.
07-02-2004, 07:05
OOC: Damnit, if i had noticed this sooner, i would RP'd it.

i would have used the 2 Brigades of M1A1 Abrams Kuwait has and the couple squadrons of F-18's


It would have given me nice chance to RP Armored Warfare.

OOC: Oh well. :P

This isn't the last place I'm going to attack, so perhaps you'll have the chance. :)

IC:

During night time raids into Kuwait City, the "Al Medina" Mechanized Division of the 3rd Republican Guard Corps seized the Ministry of Information, the international telephone exchange, and the broadcasting building of the Kuwaiti Radio and Television stations.

Fighting was heavy, but casualities on the Iraqi side were very low, as they simply brought in tanks and other heavy armored vehicles to eliminate Kuwaiti defensive positions, instead of taking them by force.

It has also been reported that the Kuwaiti Emir and several top governmental personnel have been captured attempting to flee from the capital. The Iraqi government has neither confirmed or denied this.
_Taiwan
07-02-2004, 08:04
Following news of the invasion of Kuwait, President Chen has asked Al Anbar and the Kuwaiti governments to resolve this situation peacefully.

With Al Anbar accounting for approxiametely 25% of Taiwan's oil imports, Chen has used the softest words possible to avoid offense.
07-02-2004, 08:11
OOC: Watertest is located in present day Italy. Do you RP with the RL military that Iraq had in 1990-2002 or do you use the NS Al Anbar military?

IC:

International Statement

Watertest is outraged at Al Anbars blatant disregard for International Regulations and obvious warmongering. We demand that Al Anbar’s military is withdrawn out of Kuwait in 72 hours. If this demand is not met, Watertest will remove Al Anbar forces from Kuwait. We urge other nations to impose sanctions, embargos, and freeze Al Anbar assets.
Argyllia
07-02-2004, 09:00
Argyllia strongly condems this action, war is never the answer we urge both parties to go into talks on how to negociate this crisis and resolve it peacefully.

We do not wish to get invovled but if you do not pull out we will be forced to act.
07-02-2004, 09:12
OOC: Well, the military of Al Anbar is that of the Iraq of 2003, except without sanctions and such, it now has a much better force. Higher paid, pretty good morale, modern (land, not air or sea) equipment, and are much higher trained. Al Anbar military info is in the 'Al Anbar Armed Forces' thread. Search for it.

IC:

To _Taiwan

We have tried to settle our 'problems' in the past, yet the Kuwaitis have continually attacked us and supported our enemies. After we left Kuwait in 1991, they allowed American forces to base their troops right next to our border and maintain an offensive force against our country. In 2003, they once again allowed their territory to allow the infidel forces of America launch an attack on the country of Iraq. We are finished with talking. Al Anbar will not leave until the entire Kuwaiti government is removed from power.

On the war front:

In an apparent snub to all the countries demanding Al Anbar stand down, Iraqi forces have stormed into the remaining parts of Kuwait City holding out and the last remaining oil field in the southern part of the country.

On Iraqi Television, celebrations were broadcasted after the Ministry of Defense announced that the Kuwaiti government has been removed from power and that the country of 'Kuwait is transitioning to a peaceful government'. Also in the same broadcast was a video of the Emir of Kuwait who was wearing raggedly clothes and in a small, dirty cell somewhere in Al Anbar. A big difference from his days in power in Kuwait where he refused to touch anything an Iraqi touched.
Western Asia
07-02-2004, 10:22
Release from the Western Asian State Department:
"Al Anbar's expansionism will not go unchecked. It's mad grab at others' lands will end soon enough."
The Gulf States
07-02-2004, 10:25
Official Release Statement: Our buisness normally doesn't involve outside our influence in the Western Hemisphere. But hey, we need more oil resources.

We will defend the Kuwaitis and their land. We are sending various military units to the region, and request international coalitional support.
Bedou
07-02-2004, 10:32
Sheik Mohammed Bin Aldeeb watched as the Bedou took to the streets of their temporary home(wazzu controlled sweden). http://members.lycos.co.uk/imtanan/hpbimg/_770263_jihad300.jpg
Many voiced concern for family members who could be passing through Kuwait.
Many spoke of the fact that muslims were attacking muslims(again).
The bedouin mujahadin demanded that Sheik Bin Al Deeb remind the leaders of Al Anbar of the ten rules of war. Save they themselves be considered terrorist infidels.
Realizing the danger of not responding to the request of warrior caste of his society, he He had the local news agency send a meesage to CNN to be broadcast globally.
"I Sheik Mohammed Bin Al Deeb, of the Nomadic peoples of Bedou.
wish to remind the leadership of Al Anbar and the people of the nation of Al Anbar to remember the ancient code '"Stop, O people, that I may give you the rules for your guidance in the battlefield. Do not commit treachery or deviate from the right path. You must not mutilate dead bodies. Do not kill a child, nor a woman, nor an aged man. Bring no harm to the trees, nor burn them with fire, especially those which are fruitful. Don't kill any of the enemy's flock except for your food. You are likely to pass by people who have devoted their lives to monastic services; leave them alone.' -Abu Bakr, the first caliph (successor to the Prophet Muhammad).
Argyllia
07-02-2004, 11:50
I strongly urge you to stop your ambitions in the Middle East, we ourselves tried to build a empire only to have it crumble down around us. I urge you to give up now or face total destruction from superior forces of older nations.
..........

Forces of the Argyllian military have been put on alert to deploy to the gulf after Iraq's blatant invaison of a smaller state for doubtfull reasons.
Allied Ages
07-02-2004, 11:54
Allied Ages does not ask but DEMANDS it of you that you retreat from Kuwait immediately.

Otherwise. once more American tanks will roll through the deserts, and aircraft will bring your tanks to rubble.

Remove yourself at once!
07-02-2004, 22:28
For those monitoring the situation through satellite:

Resistance from the Kuwaiti Army has completely ceased and the entire country has been taken over by the Iraqi Army. Military supplies are constantly streaming into the country, including Chinese Silkworm missiles, which are being emplaced in Kuwait City and several other strategic coastline areas. Iraqi forces have redeployed to defensive positions.

Ministry of Information

The Government of Al Anbar will not leave Kuwait until the entire country has been liberated from the yoke of the old terrorist-supporting government. The Kuwaiti people are glad that we have liberated them from their previous government and show unanimous support for our temporary occupation of the country. We will leave once a government has been established and all of the yoke of the old government has been removed from Kuwaiti society. We can no longer let them terrorize the people of Kuwait and their brothers in Iraq.
07-02-2004, 22:31
Ministry of Foreign Affairs

Message to Sheikh Mohammed Bin Al Deeb, Bedou

Al Anbar has and will always follow the code that has been passed down for generations. We thank you for your concern.

Signed,

Saddam Hussein
President of Al Anbar
Western Asia
07-02-2004, 22:46
Across Western Asia, thousands of tanks are moved to forward stations, over a dozen of the massive GATEKEEPER missile bombardment units are kept in the air at any time, hundreds of combat aircraft are armed, crewed, and fueled for last-minute orders to strike. Targets throughout Iraq are assigned to air wings, already many planes are left for Search and Destroy missions as strike demands for all other existing targets have long since been filled.

The IDF Army Corps is moved up to the Western Asian border and mechanized units are checked and arrayed.

A message is sent to Al Anbar:

"You have 48 hours to evacuate the Kurdish Autonomous Zone, Kuwait, and other territories seized recently. By your actions in these zones, you have violated the Western Asia-Al Anbar Non-agression Pact in threatening the interests of Western Asia, it's allies, and your neighboring countries. The document will be held as in breach unless the situation is rectified within this set time period."
07-02-2004, 22:57
OOC: What is a Gatekeeper?

Also, to everyone... no future tech or space stuff. Just present day tech.

IC:

A message is sent to Western Asia:

"Al Anbar has violated no agreement with Western Asia. Al Anbar has reunited the whole of Iraq. You are in violation of the treaty for threatening Al Anbar and providing assistance to enemies of the country. You have forty seven hours to cease your build up and cease aiding the enemies of Al Anbar or you shall be considered in breach of our non aggression pact. We have obeyed by all the terms of the pact, you have not."
Western Asia
07-02-2004, 23:31
OOC: A Gatekeeper is a large, semirigid dirigible (known as an ULA, or Ultra Large Airlifter) that bears over 120 air launched missiles, mostly cruise missiles, with as many reloads aboard (which can be moved to the launching positions and used to refil exhausted missile magazines, refilling a mount of 8 missiles in less than 15 minutes). WA has a significant number of these units as well as numerous other ULA-based units at its disposal, which allow for the rapid transportation of massive forces. A dozen units could fire over 1440 precision strike missiles, many stealthy and super- or hypersonic, within a quarter of an hour, with the second hour bringing on the same number again...by which time the second and third groups would be ready to be moved up and employed as the first group is stood down for rearmament and refueling. I don't have my specs in front of me at the moment, but you get the idea of their power.

I think that a little reminder of the terms is in order:
WA Terms
1) Al Anbar will cease all threats, current and future, against its neighbors and against countries removed from its borders.

2) Al Anbar will return all persons to their nations.

3) Al Anbar will honor agreements made previously and following concerning other nations.

4) Western Asia will not destroy the outpost.

5) Western Asia will not support unwarranted invasions of Al Anbar.

6) Western Asia will not crush Al Anbar.

7) Al Anbar will repay Western Asia for damages done.

8 ) Western Asian territory will not be surrendered, neither shall any Al Anbari territory be surrendered.

9) Al Anbar will not support or allow terrorist actions against Western Asia nor will Western Asia support or allow terrorist actions against Al Anbar.

10) Western Asia will seek to ensure the release of Al Anbar POWs taken by nations friendly to Western Asia and Al Anbar will release any POWs from those previous conflicts.

Al Anbar agrees to the above terms.

The Government of Western Asia is very pleased to see this development and will agree whole-heartedly to this modified list of terms.

We would also like to issue a statement asking the UE to avoid the pursuit of needless conflict in this matter. In light of this, humanitarian and relief aid will be given free passage over Western Asian territories but military overflights for any reason will not be tolerated. Neither will WA waters or land serve as a staging ground for actions by the UE against AA so long as the agreement made stands.

We would like to thank The Eternal Shogunate Reploid Productions for its (her) guidance and arbitration and our allies and friends for their continued support.

Salam. Shalom. Peace.

Please note: "1) Al Anbar will cease all threats, current and future, against its neighbors and against countries removed from its borders." Noone recognizes Kuwait as Iraqi...WA doesn't even recognize the Autonomous zones as Al Anbari (although it is recognized that it was a part of Iraq).

Source (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=82466&start=100)

IC:
A message is broadcast to the world and released to the AP, UPI, and other wire press groups, along with a copy of all messages exchanged to date.

"Western Asia has never recognized Kuwait or the Autonomous Zones as parts of Al Anbar and so Al Anbar is held in breech, that is all. You were the first to threaten and the first to brandish your weapons against neighbors, you will reap what you have sown."

Hundreds of M93 Hornet Autonomous Anti-Tank Systems (AATS) have been established along Western Asia's border in anticipation of any armored troop movements, dozens of more units have been prepared for implementation along the Peshmerga-held line.
The Gulf States
08-02-2004, 00:52
Permission for land/air/sea route use in the region to potentially make counter-strikes on Al Anbar? Any takers?
Bedou
08-02-2004, 05:12
CNN-Update.
The Nomadic Peoples of Bedou.
Announced today, the first field report from Capt. Tarek Nassir.
http://members.lycos.co.uk/imtanan/hpbimg/1141809160.jpg
Capt. Nassir, a veteran of the Afghan Mujahidin war with the Soviets, secretly entered Kuwait two days ago on orders from Sheik Bin Al Deeb and Imam Ali Baydoun.
To get a first hand look at the treatment of Kuwaiti Muslims, at the hands of Al Anbarian forces.
Capt. Nassir has so far made no report of flagrent violations of the rules of war.
It should be noted However that the definitions of those differ in the Bedouin community then from the rest of world.
In Capt. Nassir's Report: "I have not noted the abuse of women nor the aged. Collateral damage to civilian populace appears to being kept to a minimum."

The Bedou have refused to comment on the number of Bedou Mujahidin in or entering Kuwait.
However it should be noted that the most sophisticated militaries in the world have failed to track thousands of Bedouin Mujahidin in past conflicts, they are nortorious even in the Arab world for their innate ability to use the harshest terrain as their points of traverse. The Bedouin have called the hardest and worst deserts home for thousands of years.
The trek across the comparativly small deserts surrounding the topography would be no obstacle to these Muslim fighters should a Jihad be proclaimed.
The potetial for this conflict to become a long protracted battle of international will is staggering.
Imam Beydoun said "We are merely ensuring that our Muslim brothers are adhering to the Quran in its precipts of war. It would be a mistake however for non-Muslim nations to mis-step in this region. The 'Holy fighter' is as deadly as any stealth plane, or cruise missile."
10-02-2004, 04:24
A last minute notice is sent to Western Asia through backchannels

Bismillah ir-Rahman ir-Rahim

The Arab Socialist Republic of Al Anbar does not wish to see another conflict open between the peoples of Western Asia and Al Anbar again. The death and destruction that would be caused by such a war is unthinkable. We should strive for peace within the region instead of war. Therefore, Al Anbar would like to propose the following in order to ensure that peace will return to the region.

1) Al Anbar will withdraw from Kuwait and allow elections to proceed in the country.
2) Western Asia will withdraw from Golan Heights region of Syria. Both Al Anbar and Western Asia will demilitarize the region and will keep forces at least twenty kilometers from the zone. Golan Heights will become a neutral zone.
3) Modification of the terms of the non-aggression pact to include the following: Any and all support for forces against the respective governments of Western Asia and Al Anbar is banned. Any support for such forces will result in the breach of the pact.
4) The Kurdish provinces in the north of Al Anbar and the Shi'ite provinces of the south of Al Anbar will be recognized as part of Al Anbar, as it has always been a part of Iraq, which is Al Anbar.

I hope we can make a quick end to this conflict and allow our peoples to return to peace.

Saddam Hussein,
President of Al Anbar
10-02-2004, 04:28
For Bedou:

There has been no violence instigated by the Al Anbar forces. Tensions appear high in Kuwait, but there does not seem to be any action against peaceful Kuwaitis.

There has however, been two firefights in the outskirts of Kuwait City. It would seem that two small units of the Royal Guard had been trying to escape out of the city and were wearing their uniforms at the time. There was a brief firefight before the Royal Guard units surrendered and were taken away by Iraqi troops to a prison camp just outside the capital city.
United Kurdistan
10-02-2004, 05:11
United Kurdistan yet again demands that Al Anbar leave Kurdish soil completely and allow the Kurdish state to grow and prosper free of interference from Al Anbari puppet governments in so called autonomous zones.
Western Asia
10-02-2004, 05:17
A response is sent

Mr. Hussein,

You know the terms that you are required to maintain and that you are violating by your attempts in Kuwait and the Autonomous Zones. You are not in a position to negotiate any territorial loss at Western Asia's expense nor are you in a position to negotiate any territorial gain for your own country. Al Anbar is not Iraq, it has no claims to the Autonomous Zones.

You are to withdraw from Kuwait and the Autonomous Zones...you have 4 hours left. We will speak to you soon.
10-02-2004, 05:29
A short response to the reponse is sent

Al Anbar will never leave southern Al Anbar nor northern Al Anbar. Iraq is Al Anbar. Al Anbar is Iraq. We shall never leave our country.

Ministry of Foreign Affairs
10-02-2004, 05:36
Military Situation - Al Anbar

Iraqi presence within Kuwait had been cut by a massive amount. The Republican Guard Corps had left just twenty two hours after the capture of Kuwait, while three of the army corps had withdrawn out of the country over the last forty two hours.

Except for a few border posts and strongholds in the desert, much of the remaining forces in Kuwait had withdrawn into Kuwait City and other villages and cities in the country.

Much of the forces that left Kuwait have taken positions within the cities of Al Basra, al Zubayr and other cities in the southern portion of Iraq.

Since the announcement of the demand of withdrawal by Western Asia, Iraqi and Syrian forces have stepped up their positions around Golan Heights area, the road to Damascus and in other Syrian cities.

AAA and SAMs have been deployed heavily all over Al Anbar, including positions within the Kurdish areas of Iraq.

In the Kurdish provinces of Iraq, four corps and a number of unidentified units have been sent into the area, reinforced by Peshmerga fighters. Since the capturement of the Kurdish regions, defesive positions have been erected all over the north, mainly in mountains and cities.

The People's Guard have also been called up and put into positions in the major cities and towns across Al Anbar.
Rotovia
10-02-2004, 05:42
Al Anbar is not Iraq.
Actually if memory serves there was a thread made awhile back that listed all the NS Nations that occupied RL nations and Al Anbar was listed (amoung others) as Iraq.
10-02-2004, 05:46
Al Anbar is not Iraq.
Actually if memory serves there was a thread made awhile back that listed all the NS Nations that occupied RL nations and Al Anbar was listed (amoung others) as Iraq.

OOC: Indeed, that is true. Western Asia just wants any reason to crush me. oh well
Rotovia
10-02-2004, 05:48
Al Anbar is not Iraq.
Actually if memory serves there was a thread made awhile back that listed all the NS Nations that occupied RL nations and Al Anbar was listed (amoung others) as Iraq.

OOC: Indeed, that is true. Western Asia just wants any reason to crush me. oh well
OOC: On an unrelated note, could you check your TGs?
Western Asia
10-02-2004, 05:50
Al Anbar is not Iraq.
Actually if memory serves there was a thread made awhile back that listed all the NS Nations that occupied RL nations and Al Anbar was listed (amoung others) as Iraq.
OOC: Al Anbar is only one of a handful of players that RP control of Iraq (and there are at least 4 such threads, I'm listed in control of my territories on I believe 3 of them as the 4th was never really that important)...but he has RP'd Al Anbar as the Sunni portion of Iraq, with the assumption that the other parts broke free as independent state-like entities. As far as Western Asia is concerned, politically, Al Anbar is one of a number of follow-on states...sorta like Latvia or Lithuania claiming that it is the USSR.
Soviet Haaregrad
10-02-2004, 05:52
Military Situation - Al Anbar

AAA and SAMs have been deployed heavily all over Al Anbar, including positions within the Kurdish areas of Iraq.

In the Kurdish provinces of Iraq, four corps and a number of unidentified units have been sent into the area, reinforced by Peshmerga fighters. Since the capturement of the Kurdish regions, defesive positions have been erected all over the north, mainly in mountains and cities.


Haaregradia demands that Al Anbar withdraw entirely from the land claimed by United Kurdistan and is sending military advisors to the area.
Rotovia
10-02-2004, 05:54
Al Anbar is not Iraq.
Actually if memory serves there was a thread made awhile back that listed all the NS Nations that occupied RL nations and Al Anbar was listed (amoung others) as Iraq.
OOC: Al Anbar is only one of a handful of players that RP control of Iraq (and there are at least 4 such threads, I'm listed in control of my territories on I believe 3 of them as the 4th was never really that important)...but he has RP'd Al Anbar as the Sunni portion of Iraq, with the assumption that the other parts broke free as independent state-like entities. As far as Western Asia is concerned, politically, Al Anbar is one of a number of follow-on states...sorta like Latvia or Lithuania claiming that it is the USSR.
OOC: Actually if the other states broke free the remaining portion would still be Iraq. Like (using your example) if Latvia broke off from the Russian control, Russia would still call itself the USSR.
10-02-2004, 06:06
OOC: You have mail, Rotovia.
Western Asia
10-02-2004, 06:22
With support from Iran, Menelmacari-held territories in the Gulf, and Sniper Country bases, the Third, Fourth, and Eigth Naval Grand Fleets and the Fifth and Ninth Devastator Squadrons began to organize themselves in the Persian Gulf, the Gulf of Oman, and the Arabian Sea. A squardon of three GATEKEEPER units appeared over these fleets, easily within weapons range of most of Al Anbar and all of Kuwait. These units, having received free passage through Iran in exchange for political allowances, stand ready to strike deep within Al Anbar at a moment's notice. Many thousands of Western Asian Marines are located with these fleets, poised to retake Kuwait. The measly six Al Anbari naval vessels are exhorted to surrender by a team of two Western Asian missile boats, which could each destroy the entire Al Anbari fleet in a flash.

Near the Syrian portions of Al Anbar, the First, Second, and Fifth Grand Fleets were assembled along with the Seventh and Eigth Devastator Squadrons. Some two dozen GATEKEEPER units sit over Western Asia's territories around Al Anbar, a push for the last few hours before the deadline is exhausted. On the borders with Al Anbar, Peshmerga and Western Asian soldiers sit ready to move into the Autonomous Zones and the main part of Al Anbar.

Missile defense systems across Western Asia are powered up and their radars scan the skies, providing full coverage against enemy flights and attempted assaults. Scores of F-15I Ra'ams, F-16I Sufas, F-4Es and F-4Gs (brought up to Kurnas 2000 standards) are armed for airstrikes. Numerous F-15C/D Baz Meshopars and other Western Asian aircraft are prepared to run defensive and offensive air-to-air engagements. Near the borders, various drones and UAVs are prepared for launch. Heavy and supersonic bombers are loaded across Western Asia and are assigned mission zones for massed bombings of Al Anbari formations. SAMs are arrayed against the limited Al Anbari threat.

Hundreds upon hundreds of Western Asian tanks are arrayed along the borders as hundreds of Western Asian tank-killer helicopters are prepared for operations. The numerous Western Asian soldiers wait with their units, some in tanks, others in tracked or wheeled APCs, and more in light trucks. Almost all of Western Asia's soldiers are mounted and ready for a lightning war as the world has never seen. Reserve soldiers are placed on patrol duties throughout Western Asia to watch for possible enemy special operations activities as Western Asia's own special forces teams all suddenly disappear from their bases...no word is passed on their destinations but they are some of the best equipped and trained special forces in the world, and proven in numerous operations across the planet.

Many Marine Corps troops based in Western Asia are called to duty and are positioned to meet up with their ship-based comerades, who are already preparing for amphibious assaults.
Western Asia
10-02-2004, 06:26
OOC: Actually if the other states broke free the remaining portion would still be Iraq. Like (using your example) if Latvia broke off from the Russian control, Russia would still call itself the USSR.

But the USSR is the entire group...Russia was always the Russian Republic, even under the USSR...and the USSR was disbanded when the states all broke away from it, being replaced by a looser coalition that never got off of the ground. Without the overall body, there is no part that can claim it all.
Rotovia
10-02-2004, 06:26
"The Allied States of Rotovia pledges it's complete and unwavering support of Al Anbar and will protect the unduely persecuted nation with every means at our disposal.

It is unnacceptable for us to stand by whilst a nation is trampled and threatened by another and warn Western Asia to pray. For God alone will save you from our wrath should you not surrender completely and unconditioning, immediately..."

http://www.tu-berlin.de/~gruhlke/forum/con/brooks1.jpg
President Dionysus Baccheus
President of Constutional Monarchy of Rotovia
Regional-Director for Defence: Reformed Oceania
Director of Diplopmatic Relations for The Cold Alliance
Director-General of the Rotovian Alliance of Independant States
Rotovia
10-02-2004, 06:28
OOC: Actually if the other states broke free the remaining portion would still be Iraq. Like (using your example) if Latvia broke off from the Russian control, Russia would still call itself the USSR.

But the USSR is the entire group...Russia was always the Russian Republic, even under the USSR...and the USSR was disbanded when the states all broke away from it, being replaced by a looser coalition that never got off of the ground. Without the overall body, there is no part that can claim it all.
OOC: Here's one other way to look at it. Imagine if tommorow all of the American Southern States broke off. What would the remaining states call themselves?
Western Asia
10-02-2004, 06:35
OOC: You need to learn something more about history...the USA is a unified federalist system of ultimately subordinate states while the USSR was a conglomerated federalist system of ultimately independant (although puppet) nations...the USA would persist as a country as it was proven in the Civil War that the Union is "indivisable" and that the States are, in fact, subordinate it is a different political conglomeration. The North, having lost the other states in what would probably be an incredibly bloody war, would desire but have no viable claim to control of the South. The USSR did not survive the collapse of its control and there was no war...the USSR dissolved, it was not ripped apart. Politics isn't comparable for different systems. As I said, the divided Iraq includes 3 parts, Al Anbar, The Kurdish Autonomous Zone (United Kurdistan), and the Shiite Autonomous Zone (of unknown proper name)...they might all be part of Iraq and one part might try to exercise dominance over the rest, but none has a true claim to other lands of Iraq, let alone the entirety of the former state.

Al Anbar calls itself Al Anbar, not Iraq, and these are recognized as independent states by Western Asia...Al Anbar knows this...Al Anbar also knows that the last Operation: Al Anbari Smackdown was put on hold on the condition that it leave all of its neighbors alone.

BTW, feel free to try to get your forces to Al Anbar...there's no access open and unless you're really close there's no way that your forces will arrive by the time the assault might begin.
Soviet Haaregrad
10-02-2004, 06:38
Haaregradia pledges it's support for Western Asia.

If Al Anbar does not retract all forces from Kurdish territories then we will begin a power buildup in the region.
10-02-2004, 06:38
Al Anbar calls itself Al Anbar, not Iraq, and these are recognized as independent states by Western Asia...Al Anbar knows this...Al Anbar also knows that the last Operation: Al Anbari Smackdown was put on hold on the condition that it leave all of its neighbors alone.

BTW, feel free to try to get your forces to Al Anbar...there's no access open.

OOC: No, Western Asia, no.

We never spoke about the Shi'ites or Kurds, as far as I can remember. And I don't care if you don't recognize them as mine, they are part of Iraq. It's quiet simple. They are not independent to be able to be threatened. They are Iraq. Iraq is Al Anbar.

Also, what is your problem? Everything I do, you get involved. Go away and leave me alone already. Sheesh.
Rotovia
10-02-2004, 06:39
OOC: You need to learn something more about history...the USA is a unified federalist system of ultimately subordinate states while the USSR was a conglomerated federalist system of ultimately independant (although puppet) nations...the USA would persist as a country as it was proven in the Civil War that the Union is "indivisable" and that the States are, in fact, subordinate it is a different political conglomeration. The North, having lost the other states in what would probably be an incredibly bloody war, would desire but have no viable claim to control of the South. The USSR did not survive the collapse of its control and there was no war...the USSR dissolved, it was not ripped apart.

Al Anbar calls itself Al Anbar, not Iraq, and these are recognized as independent states by Western Asia...Al Anbar knows this...Al Anbar also knows that the last Operation: Al Anbari Smackdown was put on hold on the condition that it leave all of its neighbors alone.

BTW, feel free to try to get your forces to Al Anbar...there's no access open.
OOC: I'm well aware of the subordinate states, however I live in Australia and the states of Queensland declared itself independant of Australia and refused to enter federation as part of New South Wales. I do believe I changed the example because the USSR analogy doesn't quite work. But what I was attempting to establish is that even if parts of a nation break of the remainder is the same nation, even with a difrent name.
10-02-2004, 06:40
Haaregradia pledges it's support for Western Asia.

If Al Anbar does not retract all forces from Kurdish territories then we will begin a power buildup in the region.

You are a warmongering nation. We will not leave territories that are part of Iraq and Al Anbar. We will defend them to our deaths. The people of Iraq do not wish to be occupied by a conquer. They will fight and die for Iraq and Al Anbar and for their freedom.
10-02-2004, 06:41
ok crap,
America told Saddam we dont care about Arab on Arab wars.
So he invades.
So we invade him.
And now Kuwait actually doesnt have any borders, theyre a squatters rights country that doesnt exist.
Western Asia
10-02-2004, 06:43
Western Asian PelicanULTRA WIG craft and heavy transport ULAs are dispatched to Soviet Haaregrad to assist in any movement of forces. SH officials are provided with prospective landing zones in the Turkish province and with tactical information.

OOC: Al Anbar, you agreed to respect your neighbors...the KAZ and SAZ are recognized as such by Western Asia, if not Al Anbar, but Kuwait is undeniably not part of Iraq...you're still there, if I'm not mistaken. Moving out of Kuwait immediately would be a first step towards renewed negotiations on the status of the KAZ and SAZ, but you aren't exactly in the best position on this matter.

IC:
A message is sent to Al Anbar

You have two hours remaining to begin your withdrawl from all of the occupied territories.
Soviet Haaregrad
10-02-2004, 06:44
Haaregradia pledges it's support for Western Asia.

If Al Anbar does not retract all forces from Kurdish territories then we will begin a power buildup in the region.

You are a warmongering nation. We will not leave territories that are part of Iraq and Al Anbar. We will defend them to our deaths. The people of Iraq do not wish to be occupied by a conquer. They will fight and die for Iraq and Al Anbar and for their freedom.

We have no intentions of passing the United Kurdistan border. Al Anbar only claims the Kurdish lands because they are rich in oil.

We have no desire to fight the Al Anbari people, however they have no right to claim what is not theirs.
10-02-2004, 06:47
OOC: Al Anbar, you agreed to respect your neighbors...the KAZ and SAZ are recognized as such by Western Asia, if not Al Anbar, but Kuwait is undeniably not part of Iraq...you're still there, if I'm not mistaken. Moving out of Kuwait immediately would be a first step towards renewed negotiations on the status of the KAZ and SAZ, but you aren't exactly in the best position on this matter.

IC:
A message is sent to Al Anbar

You have two hours remaining to begin your withdrawl from all of the occupied territories.

OOC: They are both part of Iraq. They are not 'neighbours' but part of the country, and therefore, cannot be neighbours. You live in the same house with your family, but you don't call your family neighbours, now do you?

Why would I also leave Kuwait with no guarantee that you would not attack me? Since I'm not leaving Iraq, and you still want me to leave part of it, war will continue except now you do not have to fight for Kuwait.
10-02-2004, 06:49
Haaregradia pledges it's support for Western Asia.

If Al Anbar does not retract all forces from Kurdish territories then we will begin a power buildup in the region.

You are a warmongering nation. We will not leave territories that are part of Iraq and Al Anbar. We will defend them to our deaths. The people of Iraq do not wish to be occupied by a conquer. They will fight and die for Iraq and Al Anbar and for their freedom.

We have no intentions of passing the United Kurdistan border. Al Anbar only claims the Kurdish lands because they are rich in oil.

We have no desire to fight the Al Anbari people, however they have no right to claim what is not theirs.

Al Anbar does not care about this 'United Kurdistan' that is obviously outside of Al Anbar. Al Anbar is the result of the union of Iraq and Syria. Since the Kurdish provinces of Iraq, Mosul, Kirkuk, and others, are part of Iraq, they have been united into Al Anbar with the permission and support of the Kurdish political parties. We shall not leave and the Kurdish peoples will fight against any attempt by Soviet or this false 'United Kurdistan' to steal their land.
Rotovia
10-02-2004, 06:51
"The Rotovian Navy has dispatched a sizeable Armada to be deployed for the protection of the Iraqi people. The precise size at current has been classified for secuirty reasons. We expect our fleet to arrive within hours* and implore West Asia to back down now and save the lives of the many thousands that would die should a full blown war break out."

http://www.ssc.cc.il.us/news/people/faculty/ivana-cuvalo.jpg
Senator Ivana Cuvalo
Minster for National Defence
Minister for National Security and Intelligence
Member of the Senate of the Allied States of Rotovia
10-02-2004, 06:54
OOC: Watertest is located in present day Italy. Do you RP with the RL military that Iraq had in 1990-2002 or do you use the NS Al Anbar military?

IC:

International Statement

Watertest is outraged at Al Anbars blatant disregard for International Regulations and obvious warmongering. We demand that Al Anbar’s military is withdrawn out of Kuwait in 72 hours. If this demand is not met, Watertest will remove Al Anbar forces from Kuwait. We urge other nations to impose sanctions, embargos, and freeze Al Anbar assets.

OOC: Follow up........

International Statement

Al Anbar is still refusing to withdraw out of Kuwait despite warnings from several countries. Al Anbar has made the first move, and Watertest has no choice but to declare war on Al Anbar. Today, February 09, 2004 Watertest formally declares war on Al Anbar.

The Fourth Naval Fleet, along with the 5th, 6th, and 7th Ground Army have been called up. Watertest plans to begin a massive bombing run which will essentially decapitate Al Anbar, while ground armies are transported across the Mediterranean and into the Persian Gulf. Once ground armies are in the Persian Gulf, Watertest plans to coordinate attacks with Western Asia.
Rotovia
10-02-2004, 06:58
OOC: Watertest is located in present day Italy. Do you RP with the RL military that Iraq had in 1990-2002 or do you use the NS Al Anbar military?

IC:

International Statement

Watertest is outraged at Al Anbars blatant disregard for International Regulations and obvious warmongering. We demand that Al Anbar’s military is withdrawn out of Kuwait in 72 hours. If this demand is not met, Watertest will remove Al Anbar forces from Kuwait. We urge other nations to impose sanctions, embargos, and freeze Al Anbar assets.

OOC: Follow up........

International Statement

Al Anbar is still refusing to withdraw out of Kuwait despite warnings from several countries. Al Anbar has made the first move, and Watertest has no choice but to declare war on Al Anbar. Today, February 09, 2004 Watertest formally declares war on Al Anbar.

The Fourth Naval Fleet, along with the 5th, 6th, and 7th Ground Army have been called up. Watertest plans to begin a massive bombing run which will essentially decapitate Al Anbar, while ground armies are transported across the Mediterranean and into the Persian Gulf. Once ground armies are in the Persian Gulf, Watertest plans to coordinate attacks with Western Asia.

"I hope you understand and are fully aware that you must get through our fleet first, and the men and women of Rotovia's Navy will not surrender and will fight until their dying breath."

http://www.ssc.cc.il.us/news/people/faculty/ivana-cuvalo.jpg
Senator Ivana Cuvalo
Minster for National Defence
Minister for National Security and Intelligence
Member of the Senate of the Allied States of Rotovia
Soviet Haaregrad
10-02-2004, 06:58
Haaregradia has reassigned all forces previously deployed to the Bay of Biscay to Western Asia to provide naval bombardment and air power.

Battleship Battlegroups:
HSN Glazov(supported by aviation cruiser)
HNS Tavda(supported by aviation cruiser)

Dreadnought Battlegroups:
HNS Marx
HNS Lenin

Heavy Carrier Battlegroups:
HNS Volga(supported by heavy missile cruiser)
HNS Baku(supported by pocket battleship HNS Drizzt Do'Urden)

Medium Carrier Battlegroups:
HNS Satyricon
HNS Burzum
HNS Hellhammer

Marine Assualt Groups:
HNS Thor/Azrael
HNS Odin/Lilith



Additionally two Stormtrooper divisions, three Infantry, one Tank, one Paratrooper division and one Aerotrooper division are on call up, awaiting further orders.

On top of these forces several fighter wings will be diverted to assist.

OOC: Stats and all tommorow, it's sleep time now. :)
Western Asia
10-02-2004, 06:59
OOC: They are both part of Iraq. They are not 'neighbours' but part of the country, and therefore, cannot be neighbours. You live in the same house with your family, but you don't call your family neighbours, now do you?

Why would I also leave Kuwait with no guarantee that you would not attack me? Since I'm not leaving Iraq, and you still want me to leave part of it, war will continue except now you do not have to fight for Kuwait.

OOC: It doesn't matter what they are a 'part' of...if they ICly have declared independence from Iraq...and have reliably ICly declared an intent to remain independent and their status has been recognized by a state then they 'are' independent in the view of that state...for many decades the USA considered Taiwan to be representative China, officially, and some states simply "don't exist" in the view of other states. International Politics doesn't demand that everyone agrees.

You would leave Kuwait as a sign of recognition of your political position, namely that you have the support of one distant country and a hostile power with several times your military might, more advanced military technology, and the ability to wipe out your forces within a few days has literally surrounded you...if you haven't noticed, you're being blockaded. The withdrawl from Kuwait would at least buy you a few hours...at best it could ensure formal negotiations concerning the status of these independent zones which might gain your Saddam a few score kilometers of territory, saving face while also saving ass. Do you know anything about real International Relations?

You have invaded parts of Iraq that were not Al Anbar's and Western Asia as a political entity has expressed an interest in it remaining not a part of Al Anbar or any such Iraqi successor state. Al Anbar has signed agreements with Western Asia that were breached by Al Anbar's actions. Whether or not Al Anbar recognizes the independence of those territories, the violation of the pact was left to the parties...by Western Asia's determination, Al Anbar has broken the pact. Western Asia's government has not forgotten the threats Al Anbar made upon it and is not eager to let Al Anbar gain any strength.
10-02-2004, 07:05
"I hope you understand and are fully aware that you must get through our fleet first, and the men and women of Rotovia's Navy will not surrender and will fight until their dying breath."



OOC: Where is your country located?

Then Watertest will have to destroy your fleet, its as simple as that......

EDIT: I have to go to bed........so goodnight all
Western Asia
10-02-2004, 07:05
OOC: Rotovia, each Grand Fleet consists of about 4 fleets the size of a US Carrier Group...I have several such fleets covering every approach to Al Anbar. The Gatekeepers' weaponry is also proven against ships. You get within 1000 miles of any Western Asian fleet and your ships will be destroyed within an hour or two. Have fun trying to approach. I hope you mean days or my GATEKEEPERS will have already opened fire...at least state your position OOCly, because if you expect to make your fleets magically appear off of the coast of Al Anbar then you'll be informed of numerous impossibilities associated with such claims and your fleets will be fired upon by all capable ships, which will assme that your vessels are just under 1000mi from the fleets.

WT and SH, get onto the #nationstates IRC channel on Espernet if you can.

IC:
Calls are made to Watertest to coordinate actions and several PelicanULTRAs and other heavylift aircraft are dispatched to assist them in the transport of forces.
Rotovia
10-02-2004, 07:11
"I hope you understand and are fully aware that you must get through our fleet first, and the men and women of Rotovia's Navy will not surrender and will fight until their dying breath."



OOC: Where is your country located?

Then Watertest will have to destroy your fleet, its as simple as that......

EDIT: I have to go to bed........so goodnight all
OOC: In a previous roleplay, involving Al Anbar, it was established as being reasonabley close.
Rotovia
10-02-2004, 07:13
"The Allied States of Rotovia is not currently aware of any war between our nations and askes that we be allowed passage through international waters and into the soveriegn waters of a friendly nation. There is no legal justification for you denying our fleet passage."

http://www.ssc.cc.il.us/news/people/faculty/ivana-cuvalo.jpg
Senator Ivana Cuvalo
Minster for National Defence
Minister for National Security and Intelligence
Member of the Senate of the Allied States of Rotovia
Western Asia
10-02-2004, 07:18
"We consider Rotovia to be a hostile power unless it is proven otherwise...that is reason enough. Western Asian protectable water claims extend for 500mi and interception in international waters is legal if the intercepted group is intent upon waging war on the intercepting nation. Your ships will be destroyed if they enter weapons range of our forces."
10-02-2004, 07:27
OOC: It doesn't matter what they are a 'part' of...if they ICly have declared independence from Iraq...and have reliably ICly declared an intent to remain independent and their status has been recognized by a state then they 'are' independent in the view of that state...for many decades the USA considered Taiwan to be representative China, officially, and some states simply "don't exist" in the view of other states. International Politics doesn't demand that everyone agrees.

OOC: That isn't true.

They have not declared independence from Iraq. They were an autonomous zone of Iraq, still officially part of Iraq, but with their own rules and laws. This is similiar to the way the Kurdish zone was/is in Iraq right now since 1991. They have had their own government and such, but have not declared independence from Iraq and still associate themselves as Iraqis.

Therefore, your logic is not correct in this matter. They are still part of Iraq. They have never declared independence.
Rotovia
10-02-2004, 07:32
"We consider Rotovia to be a hostile power unless it is proven otherwise...that is reason enough. Western Asian protectable water claims extend for 500mi and interception in international waters is legal if the intercepted group is intent upon waging war on the intercepting nation. Your ships will be destroyed if they enter weapons range of our forces."

"You are free to cinsider us a hostile force if you choose to do so, but we are only here to provide defence for the Al Anbar people. Furthermore your nation cannot claim the right to "defend" international waters, international waters belong to noone and can be handed to noone. Rotovia will proceed to cross through international waters to defend a sovereign nation. Do not presum to claim superior justification, aso it is your nation attempting an invasion and we are merely provided protection and have followed internatiol law to the letter."

http://www.ssc.cc.il.us/news/people/faculty/ivana-cuvalo.jpg
Senator Ivana Cuvalo
Minster for National Defence
Minister for National Security and Intelligence
Member of the Senate of the Allied States of Rotovia
Western Asia
10-02-2004, 07:40
OOC: Yes, it is true.

Al Anbar, you said yourself that they'd split off of Iraq and had established themselves as independent bodies after the proposed scenario where the 2nd GW ended in a partial Iraqi victory. Unless you're changing the history you've established, intentionally or not, elsewhere...and United Kurdistan definitely declared itself independent of Iraq, so you're 100% wrong on that point. You still haven't moved on Kuwait.

IC:
"Senator Cuvalo,
Perhaps you are unaware, but international law states that we are allowed to defend ourselves in international waters. We lay no territorial claim past the internationally accepted ranges, but we claim the right to automatically defend our interests out to 500mi and will follow through with those claims.

"No part of international law tells us that your force should be provided with any sort of immunity in its passage through international waters, as the Western Asian government considers you to be an opposing warring power.

"We would suggest that you read up on international law or consult your nearest professor or diplomat on the subject...your personal perception seems to be flawed."
_Taiwan
10-02-2004, 07:41
OOC: Depends solely on who recognises it. For example, on a Taiwanese map, Mongolia is shown as part of China.

IC:

Taipei asks both Western Asia and Al Anbar to settle their differences via diplomatic means. We also request other states desist from entering the conflict and encourage resolution through diplomatic means. If a neutral venue for negotiations is required, we can assist in that respect.

And that was that. President Chen was not at all happy about the latest news in the Middle East. With Al Anbari oil accounting for a large chunk of Taiwan's oil imports, and Western Asia being vital to several weapons programmes, a war between the two would give Taiwan a political headache.
Russian Forces
10-02-2004, 07:48
al Anbar.....

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=122636
Rotovia
10-02-2004, 07:50
IC:
"Senator Cuvalo,
Perhaps you are unaware, but international law states that we are allowed to defend ourselves in international waters. We lay no territorial claim past the internationally accepted ranges, but we claim the right to automatically defend our interests out to 500mi and will follow through with those claims.

"No part of international law tells us that your force should be provided with any sort of immunity in its passage through international waters, as the Western Asian government considers you to be an opposing warring power.

"We would suggest that you read up on international law or consult your nearest professor or diplomat on the subject...your personal perception seems to be flawed."
"We claim no immunity, but wish to inform that any assault would be unwarrented and a blatently immoral action. We are as yet not a warring party, and you use of the term is inane and rediculous. You know very well that not state of war excist and yet you attempt to justify your actions with this.

It is plain for all to see your nation sees fit to minipulate the truth and has no respect for other nations. As for defending yourself, against what? There is not state of war and we will not attack any vessel that is not, at the current moment in time, attacking Al Anbar in Al Anbar's soveriegn territory.

As I said, if you wish to attack our fleet then I warn you that it has been requested that all military vessels hold postion until Supplt and Medical ships are in place.

If the barabarian leaders of your nation can live with massacring the innocent and defenceless then I pray God may have mercy on soul."

http://www.ssc.cc.il.us/news/people/faculty/ivana-cuvalo.jpg
Senator Ivana Cuvalo
Minster for National Defence
Minister for National Security and Intelligence
Member of the Senate of the Allied States of Rotovia
10-02-2004, 07:54
OOC: Yes, it is true.

Al Anbar, you said yourself that they'd split off of Iraq and had established themselves as independent bodies after the proposed scenario where the 2nd GW ended in a partial Iraqi victory. Unless you're changing the history you've established, intentionally or not, elsewhere...and United Kurdistan definitely declared itself independent of Iraq, so you're 100% wrong on that point. You still haven't moved on Kuwait.

OOC: I have always said that they were autonomous but they were still Iraqi. We have never had a major RP with either the Shi'ites or Kurds for me to actually make that clearer, but now I am.

Secondly, United Kurdistan does not have anything to do with Al Anbar other than they claim (wrongfully) the Kurdish provinces of Iraq. They control no Iraqi territories.

And with that, I'm off until tomorrow.
_Taiwan
10-02-2004, 08:01
OOC: Um... any response to my post?
Western Asia
10-02-2004, 08:14
"Our nation's democratic institutions see no issue with destroying your military vessels...or your military support vessels. Your merchant marine and any civilian staff aboard those vessels should know the risks they take in boarding a militarily-aligned vessel. We will not aim for any civilian-contracted vessels, but we cannot ensure their safety if your nation uses them as civilian shields for your military units, a blatant violation of the Geneva Conventions and an abuse of the rights of your own citizens.

"Any military supply or hospital ships placed in the sector will be seized and guided to the nearest safe port, where they will remain for the remainder of any conflict...as international law allows. Any captured civilians will be treated in accord with their status and their rights as foreign citizens in Western Asia will be respected to the full extent of the Geneva Conventions.

"You have declared an intent to do combat with Western Asian forces, you are a hostile power. As it is, the majority of our vessels will be engaging Al Anbari forces in territories they have illegally seized until they agree to withdraw. You have been warned of the status of your vessels; you know what treatment they can expect. We have no desire to destroy your forces but any movement of your military towards Western Asian domains are considered hostile until you have recanted your statements of intent to do harm to Western Asian vessels."

The full exchange of these messages was then released onto the World Wide Web.

OOC: Al Anbar, it doesn't matter if you believe they have a rightful claim to the Kurdish provicnes...they have recognition from numerous countries...and this isn't a closed RP so there's no reason for you to dismiss UK's claims.

_Taiwan, I don't think there's much there to respond to. WA is aware of _Taiwan's position and its connections to Al Anbar have been noted by the personnel negotiating arms deals with _Taiwan.
Rotovia
10-02-2004, 08:23
http://www.mercy.navy.mil/photogallery/ship1f.jpg

Rotovia's Naval Medical Fleet under the command of Commodore Dr Allen Charters begins to make it's way past the West Asian fleet and towards the territorial waters of Al Anbar.
Rotovia
10-02-2004, 08:32
Add-on note:

All vessels are flyign both the Rotovian Flag and The Red Cross. As well as being marked Medical Vessels, supply fleets have not yet been sent.
Western Asia
10-02-2004, 08:36
OOC: Time out. When was the last time a medical fleet had two Kittyhawk-class carriers, 2 Cruisers, 4 Destroyers/Frigates, an AOE, and another support ship? If the picture is wrong then just leave it out...otherwise your vessels will be noted to be non-medical and will be destroyed. Would you care to tell me how they moved 1000mi in under 6 hours with an average fleet speed (based on CVBG stats) of 500-700nm/ 24 hour day? They're still just breaching the max range and have yet to pass or encounter any Western Asian vessels, play with what you have.

No amount of white paint will make my forces believe that a CVBG is somehow a medical fleet.

EDIT: I realize now (looking closer) that it's actually a combined CVBG and ARG, so that makes one Kittyhawk or Nimitz-class carrier (CVN), one Tarawa or Wasp-class carrier (LHA/LHD), a LPD, a LSD, 5 cruisers/destroyers/frigates (support vessels), and one large transport vessel (the CVBG is to the left and rear while the three forward/right ships are of the ARG, the AOE or medical ship is in the center/rear). The helicopter carrier was grossly mistaken for a normal fixed-wing aircraft carrier, an LSD I thought at first was an odd destroyer, and an LPD I thought at first was an odd Cruiser.
Rotovia
10-02-2004, 08:39
OOC: Time out. When was the last time a medical fleet had two Kittyhawk-class carriers, 2 Cruisers, 4 Destroyers/Frigates, an AOE, and another support ship? If the picture is wrong then just leave it out...otherwise your vessels will be noted to be non-medical and will be destroyed. Would you care to tell me how they moved 1000mi in under 6 hours with an average fleet speed (based on CVBG stats) of 500-700nm/ 24 hour day? They're still just breaching the max range and have yet to pass or encounter any Western Asian vessels, play with what you have.
OOC: Yeah I just noticed that, I have a list of images I use and it was listed as "Hospital Fleet". I'll edit it in a sec, but as a referance it is a puring a medical fleet.
Rotovia
10-02-2004, 08:41
OOC: Time out. When was the last time a medical fleet had two Kittyhawk-class carriers, 2 Cruisers, 4 Destroyers/Frigates, an AOE, and another support ship? If the picture is wrong then just leave it out...otherwise your vessels will be noted to be non-medical and will be destroyed. Would you care to tell me how they moved 1000mi in under 6 hours with an average fleet speed (based on CVBG stats) of 500-700nm/ 24 hour day? They're still just breaching the max range and have yet to pass or encounter any Western Asian vessels, play with what you have.
OOC: Yeah I just noticed that, I have a list of images I use and it was listed as "Hospital Fleet". I'll edit it in a sec, but as a referance it is a puring a medical fleet.
10-02-2004, 08:43
OOC: Um... any response to my post?

OOC:

Could not sleep. I'll be here for a bit now.. No war tonight, however. If it comes to that, we'll start tomorrow.

You have mail, _Taiwan.
Russian Forces
10-02-2004, 09:19
Russian Aircraft are currently being prepared in Azerbaijan and are still awaiting for the Iraqi's to withdraw.

Our Indian Ocean fleet is moving closely.
11-02-2004, 00:40
OOC: You have mail, Rotovia.

IC:

Telegram to Western Asia

Al Anbar is willing to pull out of Kuwait should you accept to attend the peace conference held by _Taiwan as soon as we have left the country.

Ministry of Foreign Affairs
Western Asia
11-02-2004, 04:17
A response is rapidly sent

"We are pleased to see that you are willing to discuss matters diplomatically, even if at the last hour. We will hold off all forces at least until we have met."
_Taiwan
11-02-2004, 04:22
We welcome Al Anbar's gesture towards a peaceful resolution and have begun making preparations in Taipei for a conference venue. However, we ask that Al Anbars troops begin withdrawal from Kuwait firsthand as a sign of good faith.
11-02-2004, 04:54
Kuwait

The situation was changing slowly, but surely. Iraqi forces had started to move out of the small country. With them, they took a large number of M1 tanks, Bradley APCs, and other military equipment from Kuwait. There has also been a large amount of people around the major oil fields, and seem to wiring something to the equipment there.

To: _Taiwan

Al Anbar has begun to withdraw from Kuwait. We have prepared a delegation to head to _Taiwan as soon as possible.

Ministry of Foreign Affairs
Western Asia
11-02-2004, 05:11
OOC are you saying you're somehow making off with US equipment? that's complete BS if you're saying the US had to withdraw from Iraq...they wouldn't leave equipment there unguarded...it'd probably be in Saudi Arabia long before you moved in. Also, removing property is itself a causus belli and you're just as likely to loose the stuff quickly.
11-02-2004, 05:14
OOC are you saying you're somehow making off with US equipment? that's complete BS if you're saying the US had to withdraw from Iraq...they wouldn't leave equipment there unguarded...it'd probably be in Saudi Arabia long before you moved in. Also, removing property is itself a causus belli and you're just as likely to loose the stuff quickly.

OOC: The Kuwaiti Army itself has US equipment. After 1991, the US began arming the Kuwaiti Army. They also have a number of Soviet/French/Italian equipment.

http://ww2.pstripes.osd.mil/01/feb01/ed022601i.html

States that the Kuwaiti Army has over 200 M1A2 tanks.
Soviet Haaregrad
11-02-2004, 05:18
OOC are you saying you're somehow making off with US equipment? that's complete BS if you're saying the US had to withdraw from Iraq...they wouldn't leave equipment there unguarded...it'd probably be in Saudi Arabia long before you moved in. Also, removing property is itself a causus belli and you're just as likely to loose the stuff quickly.

OOC: The Kuwaiti Army itself has US equipment. After 1991, the US began arming the Kuwaiti Army.


Additionally Iraq operates M109 howitzers and other American built equipment sold during the 1980-1988 Iran/Iraq war.
Daylam
11-02-2004, 05:19
The Daylami Imam has sent his support to Saddam Hussein, pledging the small, but well-equipped Daylami military to any jihad or defensive war fought against encroaching powers. Daylam is located in Iran (owns fortresses and and a few cities on the western side).
Even though our views on Islam do not coincide [Daylam follows an Ismaili sect], we are willing to forget our differences until the imperialists have been driven out.


TOP SECRET TRANSMISSION TO AL-ANBAR

Daylam has a substantial assassin corps, highly trained and professional with the latest in stealth equipment. These will also be at the service of Al-Anbar should you have need.




----Hassan Sabbah, current leader of Daylami armed and special forces.
Daylam
11-02-2004, 05:59
A recent announcement to the Daylami public concerning Western Asia has been made by the Commander-In-Chief, Hassan Sabbah.


"Western Asia is clearly in an act of aggression against our Muslim brothers. Though we disagree with the policies and beliefs of Al-Anbar, nevertheless we feel obliged to defend them with all our means against the imperialism of Western Asia. My last statement to enemies of Al-Anbar is: Watch your backs."
The Gulf States
11-02-2004, 06:31
If you truly care about your Muslim brethren, you would be more concerned about the Kuwaiti people losing their sovereignty. An Anbari is a warmongering nation just looking for fun.

We'll be entering in this military conflict, so the Kuwaitis can govern themselves. If anyone has a base in the region, anyone got room for us? Our nearest one to the area is in Brazil. :roll:
Western Asia
11-02-2004, 06:31
OOC are you saying you're somehow making off with US equipment? that's complete BS if you're saying the US had to withdraw from Iraq...they wouldn't leave equipment there unguarded...it'd probably be in Saudi Arabia long before you moved in. Also, removing property is itself a causus belli and you're just as likely to loose the stuff quickly.

OOC: The Kuwaiti Army itself has US equipment. After 1991, the US began arming the Kuwaiti Army. They also have a number of Soviet/French/Italian equipment.

http://ww2.pstripes.osd.mil/01/feb01/ed022601i.html

States that the Kuwaiti Army has over 200 M1A2 tanks.

OOC: I'm aware that the Kuwaitis have US gear (along with the other gear), and a lot of it, but I'd think that you'd have had to destroy most of it in combat if you have defeated them as you stated. The only gear that would be easily accessable would be non-Kuwaiti Abrams and Bradleys in Kuwait (which would be american) as the rest would've been used to combat your forces...unless you somehow managed to defeat the army without destroying most of its equipment. That is why I was objecting.

SH, I'm aware of the nature of US-Iraqi relations and of the fact that many older US technologies and simple materiel items were in Iraqi hands (such as TOW missile launchers and the artillery pieces you mentioned). Just as Iran has many US aircraft (gained under the Shah) but lacks the facilities/means to maintain most of them. Iraq has similarly had problems maintaining its US items, not to mention most soviet items (which even the soviets have had a hard time maintaining...with most of their claimed tank force in a non-operational contition and only a few dozen being by any means 'modern' MBTs). Most European and american MANPADS and ATGMs have not been recovered from Iraqi arms stashes, so they pose a great danger to US forces if they are in working order.

Nobody seems to notice how the Soviet weaponry IRL has an awful maintenance history and poor maintainability, often falling to minor technical problems long before its equivalent western systems unless they are rather fully renovated (as they have been sometimes in Israel, although most have since been removed from frontline combat operations and have been recycled into other combat vehicles)...their actual combat record against 'inferior' western tanks (such as the first Merkava) also speaks against the glory that most give to these weapons. The ideas are sound, but the essential truth is that the USSR never bothered to deal with practical issues in weapon systems (or with safety issues in nuclear or other power plants, but that's another issue). It's no wonder the Al Anbaris would want to get a hold of any US weaponry they can...although I'm still not so sure about the claimed success against these weapons in Kuwaiti hands, since even the improved soviet gear is outranged and outteched by the Abrams...meh. Okay, I'm done.



TGS, feel free to enter through any part of WA. Territories controlled by WA in the area include Israel, the Sinai Peninsula(and the Suez canal), Jordan, Lebanon, and Turkey (usually I also claim the parts of Syria straight up from Jordan through Turkey, but I've suspended my control of that just for RP's with Al Anbar). Menelmacar/Siri also has several states under her control in the region.
Western Asia
11-02-2004, 06:51
A recent announcement to the Daylami public concerning Western Asia has been made by the Commander-In-Chief, Hassan Sabbah.


"Western Asia is clearly in an act of aggression against our Muslim brothers. Though we disagree with the policies and beliefs of Al-Anbar, nevertheless we feel obliged to defend them with all our means against the imperialism of Western Asia. My last statement to enemies of Al-Anbar is: Watch your backs."

Perhaps you are unaware that a great portion of Western Asia's population are followers of the words of the Prophet Mohammed, voice of Allah. It was under the pressure of these muslim citizens of Western Asia, especially those that live in Turkey, the most Muslim province of Western Asia, that we decided to prevent Al Anbar from oppressing its fellow muslims. We have long watched Saddam's grabs at power, threatening numerous Islamic-friendly or even Islamic states. He has slain thousands upon thousands of innocent Kurds and Shiites, not to mention the thousands of Kuwaitis lost in this recent invasion.

We have only to say that you are the one supporting the imperialist, you are supporting the one who slays his brother, a fellow adherent of the Prophet's words. Saddam is a power hungry man whose very actions speak against all principles of Islam. You will soon see the folly of your ways, In'shallah. Allahu Akbar.
Daylam
11-02-2004, 07:02
We are aware of his past record, and in that time we would have supported any and all moves against him.
But recent developments show that he has reformed his ways, showing benevolent treatment towards Kuwaities, Kurds, and Shiites. There was no reason for your rash of aggression, and unless you provide evidence of mistreatment within the year of Shiites, then we are content to say that our support remains behind Al-Anbar. As at all times, we are ready for war against people who threaten us or our allies. Daylam's entire army will be called up, though it may be small, it and various other branches will make you regret your aggression. For your leadership's sake, I suggest you follow the proposals layed down by Taiwan.
11-02-2004, 07:03
Secret Telegram to Daylam

Greetings, fellow brothers and sisters of Daylam.

Al Anbar thanks you for your assistance in our time of need. The Zionist Entity (Western Asia) seeks only to enslave the Muslims of the Middle East. We must stand up to these Zionists and defeat them for once and all.

Al Anbar will accept any and all 'volunteers' wishing to enter the country to fight against Western Asia. We will accept all that wish to defeat the Zionists who have enroached upon the territory of Muslims and now wish to destroy the only state which continues to stand for the rights of Muslims around the world.

We shall defeat these Zionists like we have done to all enemies of the Muslim people, inshallah.

Allahu Akbar. Allahu Akbar. Allahu Akbar.

Saddam Hussein
Descendent of Prophet Mohammed (Peace Be Upon Him)
President of Al Anbar
_Taiwan
11-02-2004, 07:06
A team of forteen Taiwanese representatives have departed Taipei for Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. They are instructed to head into Kuwait City to confirm and monitor the pull-out.
Daylam
11-02-2004, 07:17
The Gulf States, the Imam has stated his obvious displeasure at the attack on Kuwait, and our support wavered, but WA's obvious imperialistic intent has swung the balance of Daylam's allegiance behind Al-Anbar. They seem to be finding any and all means to start a war against Al-Anbar. This we cannot except.


To WA: Israel and Turkey both have long and despicable histories of suppression of Arabs, Persians, or Muslims. Do not attempt to use these nations as leverage for your claim of Muslim unity, as the farce does not deceive us.

((At the recognition of the Al-Anbari governments announcement, Daylami assassins begin filtering through Al-Anbar towards Western Asia. Equipped with the latest in stealth technology, their methods of killing are varied and dangerous. They have yet to move through into Western Asia's borders, though they are poised and on their way.))
11-02-2004, 07:23
((At the recognition of the Al-Anbari governments announcement, Daylami assassins begin filtering through Al-Anbar towards Western Asia. Equipped with the latest in stealth technology, their methods of killing are varied and dangerous. They have yet to move through into Western Asia's borders, though they are poised and on their way.))

OOC: Just so you know... all of your people coming into Al Anbar are being registered and given 'Martyr Visas' by the border posts/patrols. They are also going to be transported on unmarked military trucks toward the Western Asian border and more or less kept an eye on by a couple of minders from the Iraqi army... Since you are afterall, against secular Sunni Muslims :!:, Al Anbar isn't going to trust you enough to go around Al Anbar free. :P
Daylam
11-02-2004, 07:26
OOC: Alright then. Obviously with the distrust there and the...uh...less than peaceful past my sect (the Assassins) has had with Sunnis, that can be expected. Though they are under orders to proceded into Western Asia only WA initiates any hostile action against Al-Anbar or any of its allies, including the Rotovians.
Though you understand this isn't the Daylami army, but the specially trained elite assassin corps Daylam is known for. The entire combat strength of the Daylami army, however well-equipped, is only around 140,000 men at most, stationed in various fortress-towns in northwestern Iran and below the Caspian Sea. They can be mobilized in need of a war.
Rotovia
11-02-2004, 07:39
http://www.mercy.navy.mil/photogallery/ship1f.jpg

Rotovia's Naval Medical Fleet under the command of Commodore Dr Allen Charters begins to make it's way past the West Asian fleet and towards the territorial waters of Al Anbar.
[ooc] Image edited.
Western Asia
11-02-2004, 08:24
During its transit through WA-protective waters, the medical fleet vessels are intercepted by a light force consisting of a destroyer, a pair of corvettes, and a trio of missile boats. The main body of local patrol group sits nearby.

The commander of the destroyer makes it known that he wishes for a team to be allowed aboard the vessels to ensure that they are indeed medical vessels and not troop or unit transports under false markings.

A group of three helicopters is prepared, bearing the 24 man boarding and search groups as the commander of the task force awaits the response of Commodore Charters.
_Taiwan
11-02-2004, 08:25
President Chen cordially invites representatives of all involved nations to the Taipei Presidential Palace for negotiations intended to set up a long term peace accord in the Middle East.

We are pleased with the progress shown by both sides in working towards temporary peace - hopefully a permanent solution can be worked out
11-02-2004, 08:49
Message to Taiwan

Greetings, friends!

A diplomatic team from Al Anbar is on its way to Taiwan in a Il-76 Transport plane. They shall be arriving within hours with a team of twelve.

Ministry of Foreign Affairs
Western Asia
11-02-2004, 09:04
A transmission is sent to Taipei

We will be dispatching a diplomatic team from one of our pacific territories, in this case, Guam. They should be arriving within a few hours. 3 primary negotiators and 9 aides will be attending.
Russian Forces
11-02-2004, 09:36
24 hours are complete comrades. 24 hours more and if nothing happens the guns will go boom boom.

While the Russian Forces in Azerbaijan are prepared and awaiting further orders the Indian Ocean fleet is still moving in and will shortly make it to the persian gulf. Now we are asking people who are against Al Anbars actions to start a small coalition against the dictatorship nation. We must drive them out of kuwait any way necessary.

http://www.tribulation.com/images/kuznetsv.jpg

Russian aircraft carrier of the Indian fleet. (About 2 aircraft carriers in that particular fleet.
Rotovia
11-02-2004, 09:44
24 hours are complete comrades. 24 hours more and if nothing happens the guns will go boom boom.

While the Russian Forces in Azerbaijan are prepared and awaiting further orders the Indian Ocean fleet is still moving in and will shortly make it to the persian gulf. Now we are asking people who are against Al Anbars actions to start a small coalition against the dictatorship nation. We must drive them out of kuwait any way necessary.

http://www.tribulation.com/images/kuznetsv.jpg

Russian aircraft carrier of the Indian fleet. (About 2 aircraft carriers in that particular fleet.
OOC: Considering the recent developments, peace keepers my arse!
Russian Forces
11-02-2004, 09:51
i said they have 48 hours now 24. We don't like delays. By the way Al Anbar should be ashamed for killing many kurds.
Dr_Twist
11-02-2004, 09:56
We have stated before and will State Again we will back Russian Forces in there actions. Dr_Twist is Well prepared to begin massive bombing raids at any time.
Rotovia
11-02-2004, 10:01
To whom it may concern,

I am Dr Charters Commanding Officer of the Medical Fleet en route to provide aid to the people of Al Anbar. Your request was recently brought to my attention, it was forwarded to both the Rotovian Naval Command and International Red Cross to obtain a balanced veiw on our response. So it is with this advice and good consceince that I must deny your request.

These are medical vessels on a strict deadline and cannot be delayed, and will not concent to being inspected in international waters. All ships have been clearly marked as Medical Ships and are forbidden under Rotovian Law to carry non-medical personnel.

We ask that you vessels mantane a respectable distance from our fleet to ensure there is no confusion.

-Commodore Charters
Rotovia
11-02-2004, 10:02
i said they have 48 hours now 24. We don't like delays. By the way Al Anbar should be ashamed for killing many kurds.
OOC: They are in the process of negotiations and you know it. This is blatent war mongering and disgusting behaviour.
Russian Forces
11-02-2004, 10:02
We demand to inspect these vessels! This is Russian Forces regulations!
Rotovia
11-02-2004, 10:22
We demand to inspect these vessels! This is Russian Forces regulations!
This may be Russian Forces regulation, but we are within International Waters.

Good day.
The Imperial Navy
11-02-2004, 10:25
The Imperial Navy will continue to monitor the situation from Western Europe. A situation so close to our borders must be observed.
Russian Forces
11-02-2004, 10:38
if you enter The Persian Gulf where there are no international waters you will be inspected. If we can not board your vessels then we would suspect they have weapons on board.
Rotovia
11-02-2004, 11:08
if you enter The Persian Gulf where there are no international waters you will be inspected. If we can not board your vessels then we would suspect they have weapons on board.The Gulf Area is Al Anbar territory and you have no claim over it. We request you donot interfere with our peaceful mission.
Russian Forces
11-02-2004, 11:32
if they fail to leave then the waters will be breached and your ships will be checked.
Rotovia
11-02-2004, 11:34
if they fail to leave then the waters will be breached and your ships will be checked.
It is impossible by definition for the vessels to breach waters by traversing international waters and entering that of an ally. You have no right to search our ships. Stand down.
Dr_Twist
11-02-2004, 11:36
The Dr_Twist Government gives its backing to Russian Forces in this Inspection, if you have nothing to hide then you wont be as scared for the ship to be inspected.

Dr_Twist 1st and 4th Fleet will be in the Gulf in 3 Hours RL time.
Rotovia
11-02-2004, 12:03
The Dr_Twist Government gives its backing to Russian Forces in this Inspection, if you have nothing to hide then you wont be as scared for the ship to be inspected.

Dr_Twist 1st and 4th Fleet will be in the Gulf in 3 Hours RL time.
The Rotovian Humanitarian Aid Program is not in the bussiness of submiting to inspection by any nation with a large enough ship. We have every right to pass through these waters unhampered and Russian Forces has none to search. There is a deadline to meet and it will be me shortly.

EDIT: Spelling
North Germania
11-02-2004, 15:11
____________________________________

BEGIN MESSAGE...

To: Involved nations
From: Reichswehr Imperial Guard
Subject: Kuwaiti Crisis

450,000 Imperial Guards stationed in Austria have been prepared to defend Al Anbar. They will be supported by an armored force of over 3,000 tanks and armored vehicles. Naval vessels in the North Sea have been placed on alert and have been readied for deployment. The Lüftwaffe has been prepped as well. All non-nuclear ICBM sites have been activated. Orbital weaponry is active.

We will defend Al Anbar in this time of attack. However, we will not participate in the killing of Shi'ite, or any other, muslims.

Al Anbar has our support.

- Feldmarshal First Class Rudolf Küll; second in command to only the Reichschancellor himself.

END MESSAGE...
____________________________________
12-02-2004, 02:01
OOC: Russian Forces is retarded. They tell me to leave Kuwait and now that I am, he still threatens me.

IC:

To North Germania

The government of Al Anbar thanks you for your support in our time of need. If the actions of the Russian Forces and the Zionist Entity is allowed to continue, it would cast a dark shadow across Earth.

Al Anbar would also like to state that it has not killed any Shia nor Kurd that have not taken arms against the union of Iraq.

Once again, allow me to thank you for your support in the name of the leadership of Al Anbar and the people.

Signed,

Saddam Hussein
President of Al Anbar

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_Taiwan

Hours after the Il-76 transport craft landed in Taipei, the delegates readied themselves to face off with the Western Asians. They had been authorized to make certain concessions, but have also been given a couple of demands to present to Western Asia. Among the people present in the delegation is Tariq Aziz, Deputy Prime Minister of Al Anbar.
Dr_Twist
12-02-2004, 03:34
____________________________________

BEGIN MESSAGE...

To: Involved nations
From: Reichswehr Imperial Guard
Subject: Kuwaiti Crisis

450,000 Imperial Guards stationed in Austria have been prepared to defend Al Anbar. They will be supported by an armored force of over 3,000 tanks and armored vehicles. Naval vessels in the North Sea have been placed on alert and have been readied for deployment. The Lüftwaffe has been prepped as well. All non-nuclear ICBM sites have been activated. Orbital weaponry is active.

We will defend Al Anbar in this time of attack. However, we will not participate in the killing of Shi'ite, or any other, muslims.

Al Anbar has our support.

- Feldmarshal First Class Rudolf Küll; second in command to only the Reichschancellor himself.

END MESSAGE...
____________________________________

The Dr_Twist Goverment has Ordered 2 Million heavily armed Troops and Equipment Stationed in the Bulgerian Empire (Nations in the Bulgerian Empire are Bulgeria, Romania Hungary, Serbia, Albania, Macedonia, Bosnia, Croatia and Slovenia) Have Been Ordered to the Austrian Border.
_Taiwan
12-02-2004, 05:22
_Taiwan
12-02-2004, 05:22
OOC: We don't want a repeat of the AMF-RF thing.

In Taipei, the representatives of Al Anbar and Western Asia are greeted in Taiwanese protocol, complete with dragon dances and firecrackers. Security is tight around both teams of diplomats, with a section of Chiang-Kai Shek International airport cordoned off from the general public.

The representatives of each nation have been driven to a Chinese restaurant for a meal before the beginning of negotiations.

--------------------------------------

President Chen has despatched his Vice President Anette Lu to oversee the negotiations. She is currently making preparations.
imported_Xiaguo
12-02-2004, 05:49
Hmmm, nice. Hey, Al Anbar, would you love to join the Asian Alliance? Remember _Taiwan, include that.
12-02-2004, 06:17
Situation in Kuwait

The majority of the Iraqi units that were inside of Kuwait have withdrawn. Two infantry divisions remain in the country, keeping law and order until a peace agreement is reached between Western Asia and Al Anbar and a new police force and government institution can be erected in the country.

Iraqi forces have taken over 125 M1A2 tanks from the country, including 50 Bradley IFVs, and several other light equipment, including Humvees. Most of the equipment had either been abandoned by retreating Kuwaiti forces or captured at their bases during the war. The Kuwaiti Army, having been totally unprepared for such war, had not had time to mobilize and prepare an efficent defense of the country.

Not only has military equipment been taken, but also spare parts for the electrical plants, the oil industry, and water filtering systems. Kuwaiti oil fields have apparently been wired for destruction should the Western Asian forces or their allies decide to invade before a peace agreement is finalized.
Dr_Twist
12-02-2004, 06:24
The Dr_Twist Government Applauds Al Anbar for there decision to leave Kuwait.

But the Government has expressed its concern that it may happen again and should be dealt with using a form of deterrent.
Western Asia
12-02-2004, 09:04
To whom it may concern,

I am Dr Charters Commanding Officer of the Medical Fleet en route to provide aid to the people of Al Anbar. Your request was recently brought to my attention, it was forwarded to both the Rotovian Naval Command and International Red Cross to obtain a balanced veiw on our response. So it is with this advice and good consceince that I must deny your request.

These are medical vessels on a strict deadline and cannot be delayed, and will not concent to being inspected in international waters. All ships have been clearly marked as Medical Ships and are forbidden under Rotovian Law to carry non-medical personnel.

We ask that you vessels mantane a respectable distance from our fleet to ensure there is no confusion.

-Commodore Charters

The commander of the task force sends his response quickly.

The people of Al Anbar are not afflicted by any major diseases, epidemics, or lack of medical care. The only civilians injured are those who Al Anbar has assaulted. Until the International Red Cross has provided us with certification of your claimed cargo we cannot allow you to pass near Western Asian territory or vessels.

These may be international waters but they are also in a theater of combat and it is our duty to prevent civilians from entering the war zone, potential as it remains at this time. We are aware of your markings, but that has not prevented others from using medical aid vehicles to transport armed combatants previously. We must insist that you allow a boarding party to ensure that your claimed manifest is verifiable.

Until you have provided reliable proof of the transported personnel and goods, that is, until our teams have been able to inspect your ships, we must deny any request to pass through the Western Asian blockade. We have no assurances to date of your status and the Western Asian liaisons with the IRC have not reported any filing of this mission under their guidance...there is no record of an official Red Cross action with your ships.

This area is under military blockade and we do not have cause to recognize your status as approved IRC members. If you do not comply your ships will be boarded by force and your crew and vessels detained until your identities and purpose can be judged or at least until the conclusion of any hostilities in this sector. If you comply and your files and cargo are found to be in order then your personnel will be released once their safety can be assured. You can either comply and have the chance to meet your deadline or you can refuse to comply and miss the deadline. That is all.

Our ships our blocking your way and we suggest that you comply with our requests. Al Anbar is under military blockade at this point in time and no matter of international waters will allow you to transport unapproved goods or personnel into the country or into the territories that it has recently seized by force.
Russian Forces
12-02-2004, 09:35
OCC: Well m8 i don't have all the free time to read your topic. :roll:

Also that was uncalled for troll. I suggest you wash your mouth out with soap.

ICC:Russia is with Western Asia in this and we both we'll be watching you and if you fail, your land will be glass.
Rotovia
12-02-2004, 12:01
The commander of the task force sends his response quickly.

The people of Al Anbar are not afflicted by any major diseases, epidemics, or lack of medical care. The only civilians injured are those who Al Anbar has assaulted. Until the International Red Cross has provided us with certification of your claimed cargo we cannot allow you to pass near Western Asian territory or vessels.

These may be international waters but they are also in a theater of combat and it is our duty to prevent civilians from entering the war zone, potential as it remains at this time. We are aware of your markings, but that has not prevented others from using medical aid vehicles to transport armed combatants previously. We must insist that you allow a boarding party to ensure that your claimed manifest is verifiable.

Until you have provided reliable proof of the transported personnel and goods, that is, until our teams have been able to inspect your ships, we must deny any request to pass through the Western Asian blockade. We have no assurances to date of your status and the Western Asian liaisons with the IRC have not reported any filing of this mission under their guidance...there is no record of an official Red Cross action with your ships.

This area is under military blockade and we do not have cause to recognize your status as approved IRC members. If you do not comply your ships will be boarded by force and your crew and vessels detained until your identities and purpose can be judged or at least until the conclusion of any hostilities in this sector. If you comply and your files and cargo are found to be in order then your personnel will be released once their safety can be assured. You can either comply and have the chance to meet your deadline or you can refuse to comply and miss the deadline. That is all.

Our ships our blocking your way and we suggest that you comply with our requests. Al Anbar is under military blockade at this point in time and no matter of international waters will allow you to transport unapproved goods or personnel into the country or into the territories that it has recently seized by force.

Do not mistake me for a man who would be swayed easily good sir, we can and will breach your unlawfull blockaide to forfill our duty of aid. There may be no epidemic currently plaguing the populace of Al Anbar but they are in a situation where war may break out at any given time and we fear the untold damge your forces, and those of your brutish allies, may wrought upon the afformentioned peoples.

I suggest you do not feel the need to 'protect' our citizens from entering a combat zone, which as yet this is not, as they are quite experienced in entering the worst war=torn regions.

Neither myself, nor any other Rotovian Offical, has claimed us a member of the IRC. Though we did contact them for advice on legal matters concering our situation.

As previously stated, it is not your right, nor our duty to allow our Medical Vessels to be delayed by inane and disruptive searches. We have no garuntee that you will not seize our vessels or damage medical equipment onboard. Furthurmore there is a risk that blood supllis and sterile equipment may be compromised. It is our understanding you intend to detain our personnel and divert our vessels, this is unacceptable. You will not be allowed to board nor approach our vessels, and we will pass by unhampered.

I request you move your vessels away from our own immediately, we will reach your fleet within a matter of minutes.

-Commodore Charters
13-02-2004, 00:52
Message from Ayatollah Assahola
Russian Forces and Western Asia have been granted access to Iranian Airbases. Also, if you wish to station troops along my border with Al-Anbar you may upon request and approval. Iranian Army, Air Force, and Naval units are ready to strike if necessary.
_Taiwan
13-02-2004, 01:16
Delegates from both nations are led into the Presidential Palace, where they are greeted by Annette Lu, known in local circles as "Ice Lady".
Daylam
13-02-2004, 01:28
---In Alamut, Capital City and base of Daylami armed forces---


Commander-in-Chief Hassan Sabbah enters the room with Aga Khan.
"Sir, the Iranians have announced they will allow passage through Iranian bases to Coalition forces. I humbly request the complete mobilization of the entire Daylami army."

Aga Khan sat considering. Iran and Daylam had always been on friendly terms before, not counting their period of imperialism under the Shah. But this affront against Islam could not be allowed. Al-Anbar must not fall to the same imperialist ambitions Iran once had.
"Very well, General Sabbah, mobilize 200,000 men to prepare a counter-strike if hostilities begin. May Allah curse any Iranian army that stands in our way. I will prepare a public statement towards Iran.

-----Palace of the Imam, International Televisiom-------
"Daylam cannot help but condemn the decision made by Iranian forces to allow anti-Islam forces into their nation. This directly threatens Daylam. Your actions are to be despised by the Shiite and even the entire Islamic world. I can not but wonder how the Iranians would allow imperialists into their country, considering their regime's past history. Nevertheless, if this backstabbing and idiocy continues, the Daylami armed forces will move. I do not think I have to warn Iran of our capabilities, as we used to fight hand in hand against infidels. Step down, remove this anti-Islam policy, or face Daylam's wrath.



OOC: I do not think it likely the Ayatollah of Iran would allow western forces access to their bases, considering the revolution that made Iran a fundamentalist Shiite states main reason was the expelling of Western colonialism and influence. I guess its your call, but I can't hope but think this would spark more than a few riots amoung Iranians.
IC
"Furthermore, diplomatic representation has been handed over to Al-Anbar in the Taipei conference, we trust you will represent Islam well. Allahu Akbar."


Turning to General Sabbah in private, he whispers "Get our special forces inside Iran immediately, prepared to strike if they allow Russian forces into their country."
13-02-2004, 01:43
(The current Ayatollah deposed the more radical Khameini guy in power in the RL Iran, and the more moderate reformers control the government(like the ones who walked out of the Iranian legislature recently). Practicing Buddhism, Judaism, Eastern Orthodoxy and Protestantism in Iran is no longer illegal, while Catholicism is still outlawed. This means more tourist revenue, a better global image, higher quality of life, and other things. Plus, Iranians hate Iraqis, and the enemy of my enemy is my friend, remember? And don't you think we might have some hidden motives like oil and $$$?)

Daylam, where in terms of the RL world are you located?

Iran is not Anti-Muslim, we are progressive.

(OOC: You sure you want your special forces inside my country? any idea what I might do to you in return?)
13-02-2004, 01:47
OOC: Eye Ran, go away. You've been ignored since our last RP where you decided to godmod. Leave me and my RPs alone already.
13-02-2004, 01:48
bs you know I didn't godmod you just made an excuse to save your hide :roll:
13-02-2004, 01:49
Delegates from both nations are led into the Presidential Palace, where they are greeted by Annette Lu, known in local circles as "Ice Lady".

Deputy Prime Minister Tariq Aziz greets the Taiwanese before diplomatically requesting that any more formalities be foregone and that the negotiations start as soon as possible.
13-02-2004, 01:51
bs you know I didn't godmod you just made an excuse to save your hide :roll:

OOC: Yes, right, whatever. Believe that if you wish. But, you've already been ignored for your excessive godmodding and my decision isn't going to be reversed. So, please stop posting here and go bother someone else.
Daylam
13-02-2004, 01:54
OOC:
Im at Alamut in Northwestern Iran, I believe its below the Caspian Sea, but Im not sure. Ill find you a map.
And finally, the Daylami special forces are some of the best spies and assassins in the world, its how Daylam makes up for its small size. You would not be able to know my special forces had entered your nation. When and if I try to assassinate your leaders, we could RP that out.


Finally, Iran is traditional enemies with Russia, and it doesn't matter who you are Iran and its people despise Western influences and anything even conceivably an Imperialist ideal. Iranians also have a large bias against Iraqis, but both the West and Iraq are enemies. The enemy of your enemy is not your friend. You dont see Iran buddying up with Israel, but Israel is undoubtedly Iraq's enemy.

IC
----Alamut, International Television---

General Sabbah gave a follow-up speech to the Aga Khan's.
"While it grieves the nation, Daylami's armed forces will be mobilized for its security against Iran, its traditional ally who seems to have turned its back on Islam and Shiites. We caution the people of Iran, was this what you wanted when you overthrew the Shah? Aggression and allying with the evil West? Daylam can assure you that if war breaks out we will uphold the banner of true Shiitism and Islamicism. May Allah have mercy on any Iranian armies that stand in our way."
13-02-2004, 01:56
bs you know I didn't godmod you just made an excuse to save your hide :roll:

OOC: Yes, right, whatever. Believe that if you wish. But, you've already been ignored for your excessive godmodding and my decision isn't going to be reversed. So, please stop posting here and go bother someone else.
I suppose I understand your thinking.

If I created a nation which had a neighbour twice my size, who was just as big of a war monger, who was also my enemy, and who was richer I guess I would ignore him too, for no reason other than convenience. :roll:
13-02-2004, 02:00
OOC:
Im at Alamut in Northwestern Iran, I believe its below the Caspian Sea, but Im not sure. Ill find you a map.
And finally, the Daylami special forces are some of the best spies and assassins in the world, its how Daylam makes up for its small size. You would not be able to know my special forces had entered your nation. When and if I try to assassinate your leaders, we could RP that out.

No reason to worry about that now, since Al Anbar is whining about me godmodding(which I didn't) 5 months ago when I basically crushed him. If you still want to RP attempting to kill my leaders, start another thread or something.
13-02-2004, 02:09
13-02-2004, 02:10
Finally, Iran is traditional enemies with Russia, and it doesn't matter who you are Iran and its people despise Western influences and anything even conceivably an Imperialist ideal. Iranians also have a large bias against Iraqis, but both the West and Iraq are enemies. The enemy of your enemy is not your friend. You dont see Iran buddying up with Israel, but Israel is undoubtedly Iraq's enemy.

I actually had a contingency plan for invading russia at one point, using WIG craft across the Caspian and troops invading through Azerbaijan and all the "stan" countries if he invaded one of my allies/puppets. I wouldn't attack Western Asia though, since he has been an ally of mine since I first started playing NS as FiK in early May. I just use RF as an ally of oppurtunity to advance my long term goal of re-establishing the Persian empire(so far I have Iran, Afghanistan, and parts of Pakistan)
Western Asia
13-02-2004, 02:40
Do not mistake me for a man who would be swayed easily good sir, we can and will breach your unlawfull blockaide to forfill our duty of aid. There may be no epidemic currently plaguing the populace of Al Anbar but they are in a situation where war may break out at any given time and we fear the untold damge your forces, and those of your brutish allies, may wrought upon the afformentioned peoples.

I suggest you do not feel the need to 'protect' our citizens from entering a combat zone, which as yet this is not, as they are quite experienced in entering the worst war=torn regions.

Neither myself, nor any other Rotovian Offical, has claimed us a member of the IRC. Though we did contact them for advice on legal matters concering our situation.

As previously stated, it is not your right, nor our duty to allow our Medical Vessels to be delayed by inane and disruptive searches. We have no garuntee that you will not seize our vessels or damage medical equipment onboard. Furthurmore there is a risk that blood supllis and sterile equipment may be compromised. It is our understanding you intend to detain our personnel and divert our vessels, this is unacceptable. You will not be allowed to board nor approach our vessels, and we will pass by unhampered.

I request you move your vessels away from our own immediately, we will reach your fleet within a matter of minutes.

-Commodore Charters

You mistake our purposes. Since you will not comply, your vessels will be boarded and seized, your crews detained until further notice. We advise you to comply with the boarding party as they are allowed to use lethal force to overcome hostile crew. That is all.

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The commander orders the boarding teams to move ahead, expecting resistance from armed enemy forces aboard the vessels. His second-in-command approves an order to fire across the bow of the lead vessel, which is instantly transmitted to gunner stations nearby. Within 10 seconds, the 155mm gun on the bow of the Destroyer fires a warning shot across the path of the ships. The corvettes position themselves to block the enemy vessels and activate weapons systems while their escort missile boats maneuver to maintain aim on the rudder systems of the enemy vessels. CRRCs rush up to the sides of the lead vessel, where naval special forces teams deploy grappling systems and begin to climb once the helicopters have confirmed that the decks are clear.

The commander of the Destroyer emails the commander of the local Naval Strike Team (NST) to inform him of the situation and to request support vessels.

The three helicopters move for the lead vessel, where the 24 men of the Naval Special Warfare group Shayetet 13 (S'13) fast rope to the decks under cover of machine gunners in the helicopters. Upon landing, the men spread out and cover the deck and doors with their guns.

A pair of Zulus (AH-1Z Ultracobra attack helicopters) from the nearby NST arrive on scene within a few minutes and establish air cover and a watch over the vessels of the proported medical fleet while the Knighthawks head back to the Corvettes and Destroyer to pick up another team of S'13 operators.

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When news of Iran's support is heard, Lt. Gen. Muggar is quick to respond to the news. While Iran's allowance of Gatekeeper passage was good news for the planners, this was even better than he had hoped for.

A pleasant message is quickly sent off to Iran, thanking them for their support.


OOC: Iran actually has a history of cooperating with Israel during better times. The Iran-Contra affair involved Israel as a transshipment point for US arms directed towards Iran and Irani and Israeli intelligence officers worked together well for that time. The main modern issue of Iran vs. Israel is due to the radical nature of many minor clerics.

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Western Asian special forces teams are reported to be scouting out the Daylam area and at least one Gatekeeper unit moving into the Black Sea area and apparently orienting itself towards the small nation.

A message is sent to Daylam: "We encourage you to reconsider your alliances."
13-02-2004, 02:50
Most of those small time clerics are the equivalent of the Fallwells and Robertsons in the US, people who distort the teachings of the Quran to fit their own, personal biggoted agendas.
Western Asia
13-02-2004, 02:52
Most of those small time clerics are the equivalent of the Fallwells and Robertsons in the US, people who distort the teachings of the Quran to fit their own, personal biggoted agendas.

OOC: exactly
Daylam
13-02-2004, 03:19
---Alamut, International Television---
The Imam Aga Khan once again spoke to the world, in another attack on Western Asia and its allies.

"Daylam deplores Western Asia's recent move against Rotovia. The international actions of WA and its allies are nothing more than common thugs. I caution Western Asia's allies to think again before they allow this terrorist state into their borders and their soldiers to fight in this warmonger's imperialistic expansions. We of Daylam have pledged our support to Al-Anbar, and yet Western Asia would send subtle threats our way. What kind of a nation does that, we ask WA's allies. This is a blatant disregard of international law! Western Asia's imperialism will be halted, thier blatant aggressions defeated!

This recent attack on Rotovia will be taken as an act of war unless remedied! Even now General Sabbah readies the Daylami forces for an attack upon our former ally Iran. Our guns are raised in self-defence and the integrity of our allies!"

Meanwhile General Sabbah began forming his battle strategy for the Daylami blitzkrieg into Iran, with its major objective being the capture of Iranian supply trains and arms depots. Iranian armies could be evaded, their morale cut down, and then defeated with superior equipment. It pained him to have to do this with a former ally of Daylam, but their recent out of character claims were unacceptable.
Daylam
13-02-2004, 03:26
OOC: What is a Gatekeeper? Furthermore, if it a ship, how did it rach my nation? We are in northwestern Iran and the only sea we border is the Caspian.
Daylam
13-02-2004, 03:26
OOC: What is a Gatekeeper? Furthermore, if it a ship, how did it reach my nation? We are in northwestern Iran and the only sea we border is the Caspian.
Daylam
13-02-2004, 03:48
OOC: For further reference, Daylam is located in Iran's Gilan province, but covert cells of Daylami army units have been placed in pockets all the way west to the border since way before this war. The capital is Alamut, in the eastern part of Gilan province. 2/3 of the army is stationed on the eastern edge of Gilan province, while 1/3 is stationed on the western edge.
_Taiwan
13-02-2004, 03:51
Taipei calls for all nations involved to stand down and allow the resolution of this conflict via diplomacy. With the Al Anbar withdrawal of Kuwait underway, we believe diplomacy shall prevail over cooler heads.
Daylam
13-02-2004, 04:19
Peace? As Al-Anbar, Daylam, and Rotovia ask for peace, it is thrown in our faces. Our sovereignty is violated, and every day the imperialists tighten their noose. Iran, Daylam's former ally, has betrayed her, and Russo-WA forces are taking up warlike stances and beginning troop movements. It is fast becoming a war for survival. Rotovia's help is detained unlawfully by Western Asia, Iran allows movement of enemy forces to position on our borders, and Russian forces set unreasonable deadlines. Peace? It is nothing more than a cover-up as these imperialists set up for their final coup de grace.
_Taiwan
13-02-2004, 04:38
(OOC: Oh, I forgot to tell you, RF isn't a good RPer, and most of NS tends to ignore him)
Daylam
13-02-2004, 04:59
OOC: The majority of our grievances and the reasons for the farce that is "peace" remain untouched. :)
_Taiwan
13-02-2004, 05:23
Rotovia has no business in this dispute, and sending in ships unneccesarily is at best a nuisance and at worse a precursor for invasion.

So far, Al Anbar has been cooperative and shown courage withdrawing from Kuwait. But it must not be forgotten that Al Anbar attacked Kuwait pre-emptively without provocation.
Soviet Haaregrad
13-02-2004, 05:25
Haaregradia has deployed the 3rd Stormtrooper Division and the 18th Tank Division to Northern United Kurdistan. Why? Because at this time we have reason to believe United Kurdistan is under threat and we are obliged to assist them.

3rd Stormtroopers includes:

6x Stormtrooper Regiments:
>24 MT-80D Black Eagle MBT
>36 HT-98E Merkava MBT
>96 IFV-3C Snow Leopard IFV
>40 APC-85 armored personel carriers
>240 LW-99A Wolverine troop transport truck
>12 SB-1 Razor light scout aircraft
>36 MA-5 40mmX2 self propelled anti-aircraft artillery
>36 SA-11 Archer SAM systems
>12 SA-12 Adder SAM systems
>4 SA-16 Ghosthunter SAM systems
>2 336 infantry men per unit, plus tank and IFV crews

1x Infantry Regiment:
>16 HT-98 Merkava MBT
>40 IFV-3 Snow Leopard IFV
>64 APC-85 armored personel carriers
>320 LW-99 Wolverine troop transport truck
>36 MA-5 40mmX2 self propelled anti-aircraft artillery
>36 SA-11 Archer SAM systems
>12 SA-12 Adder SAM systems
>4 SA-16 Ghosthunter SAM systems
>2 240 infantry men per unit, plus tank and IFV crews

1x Tank Regiment:
>72 MT-80D Black Eagle MBT
>64 HT-98E Merkava MBT
>48 IFV-3C Snow Leopard IFV
>192 LW-99A Wolverine troop transport truck
>36 MA-5 40mmX2 self propelled anti-aircraft artillery
>36 SA-11 Archer SAM systems
>12 SA-12 Adder SAM systems
>4 SA-16 Ghosthunter SAM systems
>1 664 infantry men per unit, plus tank and IFV crews

1x Engineering Regiment
3x Support Regiments

18th Tank Division includes:

6x Tank Regiments:
>72 MT-80D Black Eagle MBT
>64 HT-98E Merkava MBT
>48 IFV-3C Snow Leopard IFV
>192 LW-99A Wolverine troop transport truck
>36 MA-5 40mmX2 self propelled anti-aircraft artillery
>36 SA-11 Archer SAM systems
>12 SA-12 Adder SAM systems
>4 SA-16 Ghosthunter SAM systems
>1 664 infantry men per unit, plus tank and IFV crews

1x Stormtrooper Regiment:
>24 MT-80D Black Eagle MBT
>36 HT-98E Merkava MBT
>96 IFV-3C Snow Leopard IFV
>40 APC-85 armored personel carriers
>240 LW-99A Wolverine troop transport truck
>12 SB-1 Razor light scout aircraft
>36 MA-5 40mmX2 self propelled anti-aircraft artillery
>36 SA-11 Archer SAM systems
>12 SA-12 Adder SAM systems
>4 SA-16 Ghosthunter SAM systems
>2 336 infantry men per unit, plus tank and IFV crews

1x Infantry Regiment:
>16 HT-98 Merkava MBT
>40 IFV-3 Snow Leopard IFV
>64 APC-85 armored personel carriers
>320 LW-99 Wolverine troop transport truck
>36 MA-5 40mmX2 self propelled anti-aircraft artillery
>36 SA-11 Archer SAM systems
>12 SA-12 Adder SAM systems
>4 SA-16 Ghosthunter SAM systems
>2 240 infantry men per unit, plus tank and IFV crews


1x Engineering Regiment
3x Support Regiments
Western Asia
13-02-2004, 05:32
---Alamut, International Television---
The Imam Aga Khan once again spoke to the world, in another attack on Western Asia and its allies.

"Daylam deplores Western Asia's recent move against Rotovia. The international actions of WA and its allies are nothing more than common thugs. I caution Western Asia's allies to think again before they allow this terrorist state into their borders and their soldiers to fight in this warmonger's imperialistic expansions. We of Daylam have pledged our support to Al-Anbar, and yet Western Asia would send subtle threats our way. What kind of a nation does that, we ask WA's allies. This is a blatant disregard of international law! Western Asia's imperialism will be halted, thier blatant aggressions defeated!

This recent attack on Rotovia will be taken as an act of war unless remedied! Even now General Sabbah readies the Daylami forces for an attack upon our former ally Iran. Our guns are raised in self-defence and the integrity of our allies!"

Meanwhile General Sabbah began forming his battle strategy for the Daylami blitzkrieg into Iran, with its major objective being the capture of Iranian supply trains and arms depots. Iranian armies could be evaded, their morale cut down, and then defeated with superior equipment. It pained him to have to do this with a former ally of Daylam, but their recent out of character claims were unacceptable.

OOC: Firstly, you should realize that my men have just begun to land on the vessels...at most you've had about 5minutes of RPtime to hear this news. SOP for WA vessels is to activate jammer and EW systems during such a raid operation to prevent (or jump-start ahead of time) the remote detonation of explosive charges...and at best you'd get a jumbled message from the ships...which you have yet to receive. Just wait until Rotovia has replied ICly, please. Feel free to post this once news has been ICly brought into the open.

I explained what a Gatekeeper was earlier on...either in this thread or in the thread where Al Anbar announced movements into the Kurdish and Shiite neighboring states...look for it. It isn't a naval vessel.

------

_Taiwan, TM.
13-02-2004, 05:36
OOC: Western Asia - are you going to RP in the conference or not?!
Daylam
13-02-2004, 05:37
OOC: OK Western Asia. Ill look for your description of the Gatekeeper. Meanwhile order has been given for Daylami armored units to prepare for an offensive push towards Tehran should any open hostilities be declared, and this farce of "peace" finally abadoned.
13-02-2004, 05:39
Rotovia has no business in this dispute, and sending in ships unneccesarily is at best a nuisance and at worse a precursor for invasion.

So far, Al Anbar has been cooperative and shown courage withdrawing from Kuwait. But it must not be forgotten that Al Anbar attacked Kuwait pre-emptively without provocation.

MFA

Rotovia has every right to fight the imperialistic and Zionist actions of Western Asia and Soviet Haaregard. If Rotovia has "no business in this dispute" than neither does Russian Forces, Soviet Haaregard, and all of the other Western Asian aggressors.

Ministry of Foreign Affairs
Daylam
13-02-2004, 05:44
Alamut finds Taipei's logic poor. It is a nation's right to choose its allies and friends, and Rotovia's reasons are considerably more just than Soviet Haaregrad's and Iran's. These nations intentions are of the worst order : imperialistic.
Soviet Haaregrad
13-02-2004, 05:49
Alamut finds Taipei's logic poor. It is a nation's right to choose its allies and friends, and Rotovia's reasons are considerably more just than Soviet Haaregrad's and Iran's. These nations intentions are of the worst order : imperialistic.

We are bound by an alliance to assist United Kurdistan if it is under threat of invasion. Since when did assistance count as imperialism?

Additionally, Haaregradia Zionist? We get called both anti-Semitic and Zionist, will the world please make up their minds.

______________________________________________________________________
Eazy-E, Minister of Foreign Affairs
http://www.eazy-e.com/pictures/15.jpg
RIP Eric Wright 1964-1995
13-02-2004, 05:52
Alamut finds Taipei's logic poor. It is a nation's right to choose its allies and friends, and Rotovia's reasons are considerably more just than Soviet Haaregrad's and Iran's. These nations intentions are of the worst order : imperialistic.

We are bound by an alliance to assist United Kurdistan if it is under threat of invasion. Since when did assistance count as imperialism?

Additionally, Haaregradia Zionist? We get called both anti-Semitic and Zionist, will the world please make up their minds.

______________________________________________________________________
Eazy-E, Minister of Foreign Affairs
http://www.eazy-e.com/pictures/15.jpg
RIP Eric Wright 1964-1995

Ministry of Foreign Affairs

Al Anbar has never threatened this terrorist government of 'United Kurdistan'. Moving such forces to an area near the border of Al Anbar will be seen as a preperation for war against the people of Al Anbar and we will be forced to act if they are placed any where near our border.

Your support of the Zionist entity speaks clearly to the world: you are a Zionist.
Soviet Haaregrad
13-02-2004, 06:02
We have yet to come near the border and are at standby in the event the Al Anbari forces penetrate deeper into United Kurdistan. At this point we are hoping for a peaceful settlement that recognizes Kurdish independence.
13-02-2004, 06:13
We have yet to come near the border and are at standby in the event the Al Anbari forces penetrate deeper into United Kurdistan. At this point we are hoping for a peaceful settlement that recognizes Kurdish independence.

The Arab Socialist Republic of Al Anbar has never infringed on the territories of the terrorist government of United Kurdistan. The people of Iraq have reunited and will never be seperate again. Iraq shall always be whole.
Soviet Haaregrad
13-02-2004, 06:22
We have yet to come near the border and are at standby in the event the Al Anbari forces penetrate deeper into United Kurdistan. At this point we are hoping for a peaceful settlement that recognizes Kurdish independence.

The Arab Socialist Republic of Al Anbar has never infringed on the territories of the terrorist government of United Kurdistan. Iraq shall always be whole.

Al Anbar is currently occupying much of Southern United Kurdistan. This is well documented and the Kurdish borders are internationally recognized.
Daylam
13-02-2004, 06:25
Soviet Haaregrad is mistaken. This part of "United Kurdistan" has always been part of Iraq's territory. Your aggression is as unfounded as Kurdish claims to the area.

Meanwhile, armored KI (type 88 ) divisions have begun moving southwest to the Daylami-Iranian border, ready for any hostile maneuvers initiated by any member of the imperialist forces.
13-02-2004, 06:26
Ministry of Foreign Affairs

Fortunately, you are wrong.

The terrorists known as 'United Kurdistan' occupies territory outside of Iraq and Al Anbar. Al Anbar is the result of the union of the nations of Syria and Iraq. Therefore, Al Anbar, including the sub-governorates of Mosul, Kirkuk, and the other Kurdish provinces of Iraq are Al Anbar's.

We shall never yield our territory to terrorists such as 'United Kurdistan'. Syria and Iraq will stay united for now and for ever.
_Taiwan
13-02-2004, 06:31
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2735082

OOC: Ok guys, here's the negotiation thread. Of course, no one else sent diplomats so it's for WA and AA only.
Russian Forces
13-02-2004, 08:20
OCC: Taiwan i wouldn't say Automagfreek and some GDODAD members mean everyone ignores me. You're an arse for trying to put my good name down.
Rotovia
13-02-2004, 08:46
You mistake our purposes. Since you will not comply, your vessels will be boarded and seized, your crews detained until further notice. We advise you to comply with the boarding party as they are allowed to use lethal force to overcome hostile crew. That is all.

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The commander orders the boarding teams to move ahead, expecting resistance from armed enemy forces aboard the vessels. His second-in-command approves an order to fire across the bow of the lead vessel, which is instantly transmitted to gunner stations nearby. Within 10 seconds, the 155mm gun on the bow of the Destroyer fires a warning shot across the path of the ships. The corvettes position themselves to block the enemy vessels and activate weapons systems while their escort missile boats maneuver to maintain aim on the rudder systems of the enemy vessels. CRRCs rush up to the sides of the lead vessel, where naval special forces teams deploy grappling systems and begin to climb once the helicopters have confirmed that the decks are clear.

The commander of the Destroyer emails the commander of the local Naval Strike Team (NST) to inform him of the situation and to request support vessels.

The three helicopters move for the lead vessel, where the 24 men of the Naval Special Warfare group Shayetet 13 (S'13) fast rope to the decks under cover of machine gunners in the helicopters. Upon landing, the men spread out and cover the deck and doors with their guns.

A pair of Zulus (AH-1Z Ultracobra attack helicopters) from the nearby NST arrive on scene within a few minutes and establish air cover and a watch over the vessels of the proported medical fleet while the Knighthawks head back to the Corvettes and Destroyer to pick up another team of S'13 operators.



To whom it may concern

This is a blatent violation of our rights to supply medical aid. We will not allow your soldiers to murder Doctors and Nurses, as you have claimed you will do should they resist your boarding.

We insist our vessels be allowed to pass unhampered and demand you back immediately. This is simply unacceptable.

These are Medical Vessels and cannot, under Rotovian Law, carry anything else. A law that has stould unborken for two hundred years.

Rest assured the world will know of this, you nation and it's leaders are barabrians with no honour and whom would seize and kill medical personnel.

-Commodore Charters.

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Doctor Charters rushe onto the Deck to be confronted by soldiers bearing West Asian uniforms. He marches towards them his rage apparent in his face and is accompanied by two other persons, one man and one woman, wearing whit gowns.

Charters: "What is this?! Get off my ship! This is unacceptable! Unacceptable!!"

Forewright: "Commodore, calm down. Allow me to handle this..."

The female Doctor steps foreward...

Forewright: "I am Dr Jane Forewright, are the weapons really nessacary? There are only nine weapons onboard this vessel, and they are kept in lockdown and are only authorised for removal and use by our two secuirty officers whilst we are in a battle zone."

Charters: "Put your damned weapons down!.. Bastards."

He begins to walk away and heads towards the Deck door but is stopped by one of the soldiers.

Charters: "What, are you going to shoot a Doctor in the back as he walks away?"

Forewright: "Obviously there is no way Naval Command will authorise us to allow armed personnel to board these vessels..."

The last man interjects.

Steinbeck: "Military and Other Personnel: Protocol Act, Chpater 25, Paragraph 8, Sub Section 22; Any vessel of Navy assigned to fight not and to provide treatment to the ailed shall not be boarded by those bearing arms"

Forewright: "Exactly, is there someone here I could speak to?"
Russian Forces
13-02-2004, 08:50
Russian ships will be standing by and fire upon these ships if they resist or choose to run away.

You will be boarded no matter what. We await Watertests reactions.
Rotovia
13-02-2004, 08:55
Russian ships will be standing by and fire upon these ships if they resist or choose to run away.

You will be boarded no matter what. We await Watertests reactions.

Wee remind you the remaining, Military Vessels, are standing by to protect our Medical Ships... should the need arise.
Russian Forces
13-02-2004, 09:01
but we have the larger firepower. You're crossing passed our invasion fleets.
Rotovia
13-02-2004, 09:12
but we have the larger firepower. You're crossing passed our invasion fleets.OOC: Actually no, we were inplace first.
Western Asia
13-02-2004, 09:12
To whom it may concern

This is a blatent violation of our rights to supply medical aid. We will not allow your soldiers to murder Doctors and Nurses, as you have claimed you will do should they resist your boarding.

We insist our vessels be allowed to pass unhampered and demand you back immediately. This is simply unacceptable.

These are Medical Vessels and cannot, under Rotovian Law, carry anything else. A law that has stould unborken for two hundred years.

Rest assured the world will know of this, you nation and it's leaders are barabrians with no honour and whom would seize and kill medical personnel.

-Commodore Charters.

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Doctor Charters rushe onto the Deck to be confronted by soldiers bearing West Asian uniforms. He marches towards them his rage apparent in his face and is accompanied by two other persons, one man and one woman, wearing whit gowns.

Charters: "What is this?! Get off my ship! This is unacceptable! Unacceptable!!"

Forewright: "Commodore, calm down. Allow me to handle this..."

The female Doctor steps foreward...

Forewright: "I am Dr Jane Forewright, are the weapons really nessacary? There are only nine weapons onboard this vessel, and they are kept in lockdown and are only authorised for removal and use by our two secuirty officers whilst we are in a battle zone."

Charters: "Put your damned weapons down!.. Bastards."

He begins to walk away and heads towards the Deck door but is stopped by one of the soldiers.

Charters: "What, are you going to shoot a Doctor in the back as he walks away?"

Forewright: "Obviously there is no way Naval Command will authorise us to allow armed personnel to board these vessels..."

The last man interjects.

Steinbeck: "Military and Other Personnel: Protocol Act, Chpater 25, Paragraph 8, Sub Section 22; Any vessel of Navy assigned to fight not and to provide treatment to the ailed shall not be boarded by those bearing arms"

Forewright: "Exactly, is there someone here I could speak to?"

With his team guarding all of the entrances to the deck and port holes with a view of the deck, a Colonel of S'13 walks up to Dr. Charters as three of his men stand around the Doctor.

He nods to one of the men and the three pull the doctor's hands behind his waist, where his wrists are flexi-cuffed. Forewright is given a similar treatment. While they are cuffed, they are not pushed around but rather made to sit down on a raised area of the deck. Steinbeck soon joins them.

As his men work, the Colonel walks up to the Doctor.

"You have just admitted to me that you lied to a commander of a vessel of the Western Asian Naval Corps. You claimed to have no weapons, and your friend claims that no weapons are allowed on this vessel, yet you freely admit to having nine weapons for only two security guards...do you think me a fool that I would accept that your two guards need four weapons a piece? And, in case you have not noticed, you are in a war zone and I suggest that your guards think foremost about their personal health.

"Doctor, it is my duty to inform you that you and your crew are being detained and your fleet of vessels seized for violation of commands of Western Asian fleet vessels in an area of operations.

"Your crews will be given accomodations in friendly territories where you will be treated as your status deserves. Your ships will be towed or guided into ports friendly to Western Asia where any medical supplies or equipment will be cared for by properly trained personnel...

"Do not think us incompetent fools, Doctor, I majored in Biochemistry and Biomedical Topics at the university...most of my men have their degrees already. We are better educated than much of your staff...or perhaps your military doesn't value personal intelligence?"

The Colonel gives the Doctor and his companions a once-over as he shakes his head slowly back and forth with a slight smirk before continuing.

"Now, I would like to ask you to order the crew of this vessel, especially your security guards, to leave any weapons they have in locked compartments or in the ship's security office. You are also advised to inform them that they are being detained and should meet in the ship's mess for processing.

"You may be counted as POWs, at least your guards will be, depending on the determination of your status as armed combatants in a war zone due to your possession of illegal weapons. You are aware that it is illegal to have any weapons on a vessel marked with the international sign of the Red Cross, are you not?"

As he speaks, the Colonel's men begin to move to the command center of the ship, where the navigational crew are detained and flexicuffed. Over thirty more S'13 soldiers emerge from over the sides of the ship as they finish ascending from their combat rubber raiding craft.

He turns to Steinbeck as he finishes his lecture, "You see, we are not limited to your Navy's military codes...we have no problem boarding and seizing hostile, arms-bearing vessels that seek to violate blockades in support of our enemies."

"Now," the Colonel says as he turns back to the Commodore, "to answer your question, you can speak to me as I am now in charge of this vessel. Once you are on another ship you will be able to speak to the commanding officer of that vessel. Do you have any other questions?"
Russian Forces
13-02-2004, 09:13
OCC: Yes but you have only a mere expedition with soem escorts. We have my Russian indian Ocean fleet and plenty of Western Asia ships.
Rotovia
13-02-2004, 09:28
With his team guarding all of the entrances to the deck and port holes with a view of the deck, a Colonel of S'13 walks up to Dr. Charters as three of his men stand around the Doctor.

He nods to one of the men and the three pull the doctor's hands behind his waist, where his wrists are flexi-cuffed. Forewright is given a similar treatment. While they are cuffed, they are not pushed around but rather made to sit down on a raised area of the deck. Steinbeck soon joins them.

As his men work, the Colonel walks up to the Doctor.

"You have just admitted to me that you lied to a commander of a vessel of the Western Asian Naval Corps. You claimed to have no weapons, and your friend claims that no weapons are allowed on this vessel, yet you freely admit to having nine weapons for only two security guards...do you think me a fool that I would accept that your two guards need four weapons a piece? And, in case you have not noticed, you are in a war zone and I suggest that your guards think foremost about their personal health.

"Doctor, it is my duty to inform you that you and your crew are being detained and your fleet of vessels seized for violation of commands of Western Asian fleet vessels in an area of operations.

"Your crews will be given accomodations in friendly territories where you will be treated as your status deserves. Your ships will be towed or guided into ports friendly to Western Asia where any medical supplies or equipment will be cared for by properly trained personnel...

"Do not think us incompetent fools, Doctor, I majored in Biochemistry and Biomedical Topics at the university...most of my men have their degrees already. We are better educated than much of your staff...or perhaps your military doesn't value personal intelligence?"

The Colonel gives the Doctor and his companions a once-over as he shakes his head slowly back and forth with a slight smirk before continuing.

"Now, I would like to ask you to order the crew of this vessel, especially your security guards, to leave any weapons they have in locked compartments or in the ship's security office. You are also advised to inform them that they are being detained and should meet in the ship's mess for processing.

"You may be counted as POWs, at least your guards will be, depending on the determination of your status as armed combatants in a war zone due to your possession of illegal weapons. You are aware that it is illegal to have any weapons on a vessel marked with the international sign of the Red Cross, are you not?"

As he speaks, the Colonel's men begin to move to the command center of the ship, where the navigational crew are detained and flexicuffed. Over thirty more S'13 soldiers emerge from over the sides of the ship as they finish ascending from their combat rubber raiding craft.

He turns to Steinbeck as he finishes his lecture, "You see, we are not limited to your Navy's military codes...we have no problem boarding and seizing hostile, arms-bearing vessels that seek to violate blockades in support of our enemies."

"Now," the Colonel says as he turns back to the Commodore, "to answer your question, you can speak to me as I am now in charge of this vessel. Once you are on another ship you will be able to speak to the commanding officer of that vessel. Do you have any other questions?"

Charters: "How does it feel to be an incompetant git? Really, do thoses guns make you feel 'big'? Does arresting medical personnel give you some kind of sick pleasure? I mean do you you really think a BioChemistry Major inpresses me? I hold more degrees than you can count!"

Dr Forewright quickly cuts him off.

Forewright: "Colonel, is it? I would like to speak to a representative of the Rotovian Government."
Western Asia
13-02-2004, 09:36
Charters: "How does it feel to be an incompetant git? Really, do thoses guns make you feel 'big'? Does arresting medical personnel give you some kind of sick pleasure? I mean do you you really think a BioChemistry Major inpresses me? I hold more degrees than you can count!"

Dr Forewright quickly cuts him off.

Forewright: "Colonel, is it? I would like to speak to a representative of the Rotovian Government."

The Colonel turns to Charters, "I don't need any guns to make me feel big, nor do I need any honorary fluff degrees to make me feel more intelligent."

He turns to Forewright.

"A message will be sent to your government informing them of your detainment and of procedures associated with that matter. At current, none of the communications equipment aboard your ship will be functional as sailors aboard one of our ships have activated EW systems that render any transmissions to or from your ships unintelligible.

"You should, however, be able to attach a message to the communique that will be sent once you are aboard this task force's command ship...the Destroyer over there. You, Commodore Charters, and your legalese spouting friend here will be removed to that vessel by helicopter once this ship has been checked for, and cleared of, any weapons."
Russian Forces
13-02-2004, 09:38
Permission for Russian bomb squad to board vessel! -Radio transmission from Russian Destroyer Zherkov.
Western Asia
13-02-2004, 09:42
The commander of the Destroyer sends his response:

"Honorable friends,
Your men will be allowed to join the search for contraband aboard these vessels once we have secured them. We appreciate your support and any personnel you can lend to the efforts of securing these crew and personnel. We must ask, however, that you respect our ROE while aboard the ships and refrain from harming any crew unless there is a clear threat to your team members...and then only as is necessary for a measured response.

"We will inform you of the status of these vessels as it becomes known to us."

OOC: I'm out for the night, folks. Make another post or two and I might respond in a bit or tomorrow afternoon (Los Angeles time) but I've got work and sleep to do now.
Rotovia
13-02-2004, 09:47
The Colonel turns to Charters, "I don't need any guns to make me feel big, nor do I need any honorary fluff degrees to make me feel more intelligent."

He turns to Forewright.

"A message will be sent to your government informing them of your detainment and of procedures associated with that matter. At current, none of the communications equipment aboard your ship will be functional as sailors aboard one of our ships have activated EW systems that render any transmissions to or from your ships unintelligible.

"You should, however, be able to attach a message to the communique that will be sent once you are aboard this task force's command ship...the Destroyer over there. You, Commodore Charters, and your legalese spouting friend here will be removed to that vessel by helicopter once this ship has been checked for, and cleared of, any weapons."

Forewright: "I must apologise, but this is unacceptable. We were informed by the Department of State Protocol that your nation may attempt to corherse information from us or deny us the right to convey a message once aboard your vessels. Please allow me to send a message."

Charters: "Don't appologise to him, Mr Majored in BioChemistry. Heaven forbid he should bring his ultimate weapon... a Bachelor of Arts, heck if that doesn't work. He might resort to the revered Liberal Arts Degree..."

Dr. Forewright rolls her eyes before continuing.

Forewright: "Colonel...?"
Western Asia
13-02-2004, 10:52
Forewright: "I must apologise, but this is unacceptable. We were informed by the Department of State Protocol that your nation may attempt to corherse information from us or deny us the right to convey a message once aboard your vessels. Please allow me to send a message."

Charters: "Don't appologise to him, Mr Majored in BioChemistry. Heaven forbid he should bring his ultimate weapon... a Bachelor of Arts, heck if that doesn't work. He might resort to the revered Liberal Arts Degree..."

Dr. Forewright rolls her eyes before continuing.

Forewright: "Colonel...?"

"None of the equipment on this ship will work, it would take the signature of the Commanding Officer of the Grand Fleet. You will be allowed to send a message from aboard our ships, which are equipped to send messages in spite of the Electronic Warfare systems. That is what we can allow. As civilians, you may not be interrogated or questioned as POWs, while Doctor Charters and the vessel's security guards may be held as POWs due to their roles in bearing arms, that is a determination that will be made elsewhere. In any case, I can assure you that you will not be prevented from sending a message once aboard our ships.

"Dr. Charters, I'd think that you would realize that Biochemistry merits a Baccalaureate of Science and that my Biomedical studies would award me with a Master degree in Science. Now, if you do not have more drivel to produce in mockery of your own claimed intelligence, I have work to do."

With that, the Colonel left the three detainees to two of his teammates as he watches the helicopters return to drop another group of Western Asian soldiers aboard a smaller vessel near by. One of the helicopters moves to the lead vessel to pick up the triplet of verbose personages.
Rotovia
13-02-2004, 13:51
Offical Communication to West Asia

We demand the immediate release of our vessels. This unlawful seizure will not be tolerated. As far as the Rotovian Government is concered you have just stolen nearly $1 Billion worth of vessels, a cost this government will not be prepared to answer for.

As for our Medical Personnel, the Rotovian Humanitarian Program has contacted our office and asked that we petition you for their release. This is expected to be done and completely within 14 hours.

To clarify, all vessels and personnel are to be returned within 14 hours.
Russian Forces
13-02-2004, 14:16
The Russian Bomb Squad is on its way. We will see if these vessels contain any kind of weapon there is. We will not fire upon the enemy until complete evacuation of ship has occured but if escorts fire upon western asian or Russian ships we will use for force.

http://foto.sevastopol.info/gallery/author/svetl/photos3/10.jpg

General Vasilev will board the vessel along with the bomb squad and marine escorts. We suggest to check under the vessel too incase of any hidden weapons.

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Western Asia
13-02-2004, 16:22
Offical Communication to West Asia

We demand the immediate release of our vessels. This unlawful seizure will not be tolerated. As far as the Rotovian Government is concered you have just stolen nearly $1 Billion worth of vessels, a cost this government will not be prepared to answer for.

As for our Medical Personnel, the Rotovian Humanitarian Program has contacted our office and asked that we petition you for their release. This is expected to be done and completely within 14 hours.

To clarify, all vessels and personnel are to be returned within 14 hours.

With all due respect, your vessels were warned that they were attempting to breach a blockade and were told to turn back or face boarding. They knowingly and willingly sailed into waters patrolled by Western Asian vessels while your government was previously made aware of the possible consequences.

As your government was informed previously, these vessels are being detained until their cargo load can be checked for contraband. Once we have completed our searches and as soon as Rotovia has ceased its belligerent testing of the willingness of our naval forces then your crews will be flown back to Rotovian soil and your ships will be returned to your navy.

The IRC has been informed of the status of your crew and of the fact that they were found to be illegally transporting weapons on a marked medical vessel, a violation of any association that your military has had with the IRC. The UN has also been made aware of the current state of affairs and of your agressive behaviors in the region.

Your vessel can be returned when it has been proven to our satisfaction that neither these vessels nor your government pose a threat to the safety and security of our nation or to the Kurdish, Shiite, and Kuwaiti peoples under Al Anbar's harsh, imperialistic rule.
Rotovia
13-02-2004, 16:45
Offical Communication to Russian Forces

Any attempt to board our vessels will be considered and act of war and will warrant an equivilant response. Keep in mind our Navy has now been orded to hold your vessels in place and prevent them moving towards our Medical Fleet.
Rotovia
13-02-2004, 17:10
With all due respect, your vessels were warned that they were attempting to breach a blockade and were told to turn back or face boarding. They knowingly and willingly sailed into waters patrolled by Western Asian vessels while your government was previously made aware of the possible consequences.

As your government was informed previously, these vessels are being detained until their cargo load can be checked for contraband. Once we have completed our searches and as soon as Rotovia has ceased its belligerent testing of the willingness of our naval forces then your crews will be flown back to Rotovian soil and your ships will be returned to your navy.

The IRC has been informed of the status of your crew and of the fact that they were found to be illegally transporting weapons on a marked medical vessel, a violation of any association that your military has had with the IRC. The UN has also been made aware of the current state of affairs and of your agressive behaviors in the region.

Your vessel can be returned when it has been proven to our satisfaction that neither these vessels nor your government pose a threat to the safety and security of our nation or to the Kurdish, Shiite, and Kuwaiti peoples under Al Anbar's harsh, imperialistic rule.

The people of Rotovia will not accept this blatent violation of a medical fleet. You are well aware that Medical Vessels are authorised to carry a smal contigent of weapons for use in battel situations, and infact many Medical Vessels are equiped with gun turrents, ours are not. Though we donot expect our personnel to be placed in war zones completely unarmed.

As for your delcaring them 'orisioners of war', this is a blatent lie. There is currently no state of war between our nations and therefore can be no arrest on that basis. You cannot presume to quote law on an unlawfull bloackaide.

Feel free to contact both the United Nations and Internation Red Cross, I know we have.

It is demanded you remove your invasion force from our vessels and allow them to pass into Al Anbar waters, immediately.


--------------------------------

Inside the Presidential Office...

Advisor: "Your Eminencey, there are two remaining vessels that have not yet reached the blockaide."

Vice President: "Well it's quite clear what we have to do, we'll have to submit them to inspection..."

Advisor: "A: We'd loose face, B: They would simply detain them. Surely you could not subject a Rotovian to the dishonour of capture?"

Vice President: "Of course not..."

Advisor2: "We cannot have them searched!"

Vice President: "And there is no way they'd allow them to pass..."

President: "Unless..."

Vice President: "Unless?"

President: "There is a United Nation Facility nearby, correct?"

Intern: "Yes sir"

President: "Have them inspected there, relay a message to that effect to West Asia"
Russian Forces
14-02-2004, 00:13
Not allowing our Marine crews to not board your medical vessels will be considered as if the medical ships contain weapons. This mean our naval fleet will be forced to fire upon your escorts and marine crews will board the medical ships by force.

The Bomb squad is now waiting for clearance to proceed.

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Soviet Haaregrad
14-02-2004, 01:12
OCC: Yes but you have only a mere expedition with soem escorts. We have my Russian indian Ocean fleet and plenty of Western Asia ships.

And loads of Haaregradian vessels too.
Rotovia
14-02-2004, 01:32
Not allowing our Marine crews to not board your medical vessels will be considered as if the medical ships contain weapons. This mean our naval fleet will be forced to fire upon your escorts and marine crews will board the medical ships by force.

The Bomb squad is now waiting for clearance to proceed.

http://www.policeman.ru/vasilyev.jpg
Our vessels are already under th e illegal search of West Asia, what possible purpose is there in furthur subjecting our medical vessels to barbarian inquistion?

-Naval Command
Bedou
14-02-2004, 06:49
*Among the Bedou*
"Hahbib, the infidels squable over muslim affairs as if they were their own.."
A tall leathered skinned Bedouin spoke to a man crouched outside the Sheik's tent.
The seated man drew a long drag from a hookah sitting next to him. H e exhaled slowly.
"Yes, what of the Rotovians?"
"Most merciful, they are stalwarked by the communists" he spat as he said the final word.
The seated man spat with him, in obvious distaste.
"According to my sources, they wish to inspect the vessels, and the Rotovians dont want to allow this."
The man sitting next to the Hookah took another long drag, the n exhaled slower then before.
"Contact the AoH, see if their UN rep. will send an inspection team.
Contact the Western Asia see if a non-involved third party inspection team will suffice, contact Rotovia and see if this is acceptable to them as well."
"Oh, yes, activate the first fleet, and the Seglawi. If they wish to bring war on healers, then lets us bring upon them."
"Dispatch the fleet to the gulf area?"
The Sheik took another long drag, "Just activate them, put them enroute to the gulf, have the Seglawi escort the fleet."
"How many Seglawi?"
The smoke drifted up from his lips as his reply came quite and raspy "All of them."
"Contact AlAnbar, and explain that our Bedouin network has reported nothing to demonstrate that Iraq or AlAnbar are ignoring the Quran.
That we have several thousand bedouins loyal to us in the immediate area. What would they have us tell them to do?"

"Yes great Sheik Mohammed, the prophet's blesssings be upon you."
"And upon you too my brother."
Dr_Twist
14-02-2004, 06:53
The Dr_Twist Government has Ordered the Searching of Rotovia Vessels in the Gulf to inspect the ships.

Dr_Twist 1st and 4th Fleet have been in the Gulf for a few days now.

OCC: LOL. :lol:
Temujinn
14-02-2004, 10:04
*In Temujinn*
"Yes sir, yes sir, yes we do enjoy the trade we recieve...Yes sir"
The man on the phone was tall for an asian, especially one of mongolian descent.
"STOP!! We will send out some of are men. There is no reason for Erinin to threaten us with trade restrictions. We are a UN nation, butting into other peoples business is what we do."

The man hung the phone up.
He turned to another phone picked up the Reciever and pressed no buttons.
"Dispatch the Khan to the Persian Gulf"
Russian Forces
14-02-2004, 13:27
Well then a naval bomb squads will check under your ships to see if there are hidden mines.
Rotovia
14-02-2004, 14:31
The Dr_Twist Government has Ordered the Searching of Rotovia Vessels in the Gulf to inspect the ships.

Dr_Twist 1st and 4th Fleet have been in the Gulf for a few days now.

OCC: LOL. :lol:
The vessels will not be subjected to inspection by your nation. We advise you remain a repestfull distance from oour Medical Ships at all times. If you wish, you may apply to the United Nations for a report on their inspection of our vessels.

-Rotovian Naval Command
Rotovia
14-02-2004, 14:33
Well then a naval bomb squads will check under your ships to see if there are hidden mines.
Providing our medical teams can inspect the body caveties of your personnel.

-Rotovian Naval Command
Dr_Twist
14-02-2004, 14:34
The Dr_Twist Government has Ordered the Searching of Rotovia Vessels in the Gulf to inspect the ships.

Dr_Twist 1st and 4th Fleet have been in the Gulf for a few days now.

OCC: LOL. :lol:
The vessels will not be subjected to inspection by your nation. We advise you remain a repestfull distance from oour Medical Ships at all times. If you wish, you may apply to the United Nations for a report on their inspection of our vessels.

-Rotovian Naval Command

If not Given permission Dr_Twist Forces will bored the ship Forcefully.
Rotovia
14-02-2004, 14:38
*Among the Bedou*
"Hahbib, the infidels squable over muslim affairs as if they were their own.."
A tall leathered skinned Bedouin spoke to a man crouched outside the Sheik's tent.
The seated man drew a long drag from a hookah sitting next to him. H e exhaled slowly.
"Yes, what of the Rotovians?"
"Most merciful, they are stalwarked by the communists" he spat as he said the final word.
The seated man spat with him, in obvious distaste.
"According to my sources, they wish to inspect the vessels, and the Rotovians dont want to allow this."
The man sitting next to the Hookah took another long drag, the n exhaled slower then before.
"Contact the AoH, see if their UN rep. will send an inspection team.
Contact the Western Asia see if a non-involved third party inspection team will suffice, contact Rotovia and see if this is acceptable to them as well."
"Oh, yes, activate the first fleet, and the Seglawi. If they wish to bring war on healers, then lets us bring upon them."
"Dispatch the fleet to the gulf area?"
The Sheik took another long drag, "Just activate them, put them enroute to the gulf, have the Seglawi escort the fleet."
"How many Seglawi?"
The smoke drifted up from his lips as his reply came quite and raspy "All of them."
"Contact AlAnbar, and explain that our Bedouin network has reported nothing to demonstrate that Iraq or AlAnbar are ignoring the Quran.
That we have several thousand bedouins loyal to us in the immediate area. What would they have us tell them to do?"

"Yes great Sheik Mohammed, the prophet's blesssings be upon you."
"And upon you too my brother."
Such an arrangement will suffice.

-Rotovian Naval Command
Independent Hitmen
14-02-2004, 14:39
The USIH government assumes that Oil trade agreements formally arranged with the nation of Kuwait will continue now that most of Kuwait is held by one force. We are in need of oil and would not like to be forced to take our business elsewhere.

OOC: Im assuming Kuwait isnt a real NS nation because ive just made up those contracts which explain where my oil comes from. Also putting a TAG here.
Rotovia
14-02-2004, 14:42
The Dr_Twist Government has Ordered the Searching of Rotovia Vessels in the Gulf to inspect the ships.

Dr_Twist 1st and 4th Fleet have been in the Gulf for a few days now.

OCC: LOL. :lol:
The vessels will not be subjected to inspection by your nation. We advise you remain a repestfull distance from oour Medical Ships at all times. If you wish, you may apply to the United Nations for a report on their inspection of our vessels.

-Rotovian Naval Command

If not Given permission Dr_Twist Forces will bored the ship Forcefully.
Our Intelligence Division indicates you are well aware of our current to secure a neutral party inspection. Such a forceful boarding would be unlawfull and un-nessacary.

-Rotovian Naval Command
Dr_Twist
14-02-2004, 14:43
The Dr_Twist Government has Ordered the Searching of Rotovia Vessels in the Gulf to inspect the ships.

Dr_Twist 1st and 4th Fleet have been in the Gulf for a few days now.

OCC: LOL. :lol:
The vessels will not be subjected to inspection by your nation. We advise you remain a repestfull distance from oour Medical Ships at all times. If you wish, you may apply to the United Nations for a report on their inspection of our vessels.

-Rotovian Naval Command

If not Given permission Dr_Twist Forces will bored the ship Forcefully.
Our Intelligence Division indicates you are well aware of our current to secure a neutral party inspection. Such a forceful boarding would be unlawfull and un-nessacary.

-Rotovian Naval Command

Oh come on.....
Rotovia
14-02-2004, 14:50
Oh come on.....
We are not aware of what you are implying. You can very well notive that these vessels have been assigned for inspection by a neutral third party and yet you insist on unlawfully boarding them. Do not presume to take that tone.

You nation may be as sarcastic and snide as it likes but it doe sno change the fact that your attitude is wrong, and what you are attempting to do is dispictable.

-Rotovian Naval Command
Bedou
14-02-2004, 18:31
*The North Atlantic*
"Sir, the Seglawi captains are complaining about the speed of our vessels."
A large arab dressed in traditional Bedouin robes, save for the gold ropes at his shoulders.
Looked out upon the Seglawi escort.
"Tell them that Sheik Mohammed's orders are not to be questioned. However I will suggest allowing them to catch up to the subs already in the gulf."

"Admiral, would that not betray their position?"
"My boy, sooo many nations have vessel in the gulf , the waters will be covered in fire before anyone even knows who they are shooting at."

"The world loves our precious ancient homeland, and harrass it at every turn. Infidels, and non-believers, A pity the Quran says we should tolerate such 'dogs'."

"What about the Rotovians?"
"An aboration, an exception to the rule. However their intent is blessed, so we must meet them with most gracious hospitality.
Get me Sheik Mohammed lets see about our Seglawi to those doctors."
15-02-2004, 02:53
"Contact AlAnbar, and explain that our Bedouin network has reported nothing to demonstrate that Iraq or AlAnbar are ignoring the Quran.
That we have several thousand bedouins loyal to us in the immediate area. What would they have us tell them to do?"

"Yes great Sheik Mohammed, the prophet's blesssings be upon you."
"And upon you too my brother."

Secret Response

Bismillah ir-Rahman ir-Rahim.

Al Anbar would like to know the strength and locations of your units within the Middle East, in order to allow us to make a viable battle plan for your units. We will require this information swiftly, so we can prepare should a war break out.

Ministry of Defense

Allahu Akbar. Allahu Akbar. Allahu Akbar.
15-02-2004, 02:56
The USIH government assumes that Oil trade agreements formally arranged with the nation of Kuwait will continue now that most of Kuwait is held by one force. We are in need of oil and would not like to be forced to take our business elsewhere.

OOC: Im assuming Kuwait isnt a real NS nation because ive just made up those contracts which explain where my oil comes from. Also putting a TAG here.

Secret telegram from Ministry of Oil

All contracts with Kuwait have been placed on hold for the time being, due to the blockade of the Arab Gulf (the Arab name for the Persian Gulf). We are, however, to try and export certain commodities that you need in event that you should lend your complete military and political support for us in our time of need.

Ministry of Oil.
15-02-2004, 06:54
bump
Soviet Haaregrad
15-02-2004, 07:38
Haaregradia has begun the movement of numerous F-33(modified MiG 29/33/35), F-55(Sukhoi S-55), FV-27(custom), F-37(modified Su 30M/35/37), A-34(modifed Su 32/34), A-24(custom) and A-39(modified Su 39) fighter and strike aircraft to United Kurdistan.

While the numbers are currently classified suffice to say it counts for at least several wings.

Additionally B-160(Tu 160) and B-26(Tu 22M/26) bombers have been put on standby pending possible missions.

Haaregradian marines are training for possible amphibious assault missions.

The Haaregradian government continues to be as unconfrontational as possible when speaking to the Al Anbari government however is demonstrating supreme readiness, should military action begin.

-Haaregradian Military Digest
15-02-2004, 09:04
does anyone want my alliance. ill be on whover asks me firsts side.
Bedou
15-02-2004, 14:42
*Encrypted Transmission*

To the Secular leader Saddam Hussein,
I Sheik Mohammed Bin Al Deeb, would like to inform you that in the Mid-east, our numbers are many tens of thousands. Location however is a more difficult thing to pin point. We are Bedouins after all.
Our families stretch from Jordan to Egypt, from the Sudan to the Sahara.
Where ever there is desert, there is Bedouin.
Not all Bedouin will fight, but many will.
This not Jihad, so our numbers will be limited.
However our 'Seglawi' will be there in a few hours, and we already have subs in the Gulf.
We wish a peaceful end to this, we respect your move to leave Kuwait.
It appears however that infidels will not rest with out war.
The business of muslims, should be kept to muslims.
However, the Nation of Temujinn has assured me that their teams will be here ASAP to inspect the Rotovian ships, and try to keep this from getting out of hand.
Though they are not a Muslim nation, our dealings with them in the past have been fair, we respect them. Our only wish is that they would hurry.

Also, I am dispatching all our bomber wings to 'other destinations', the soil of our home lands will not be the only to burn.
Independent Hitmen
15-02-2004, 14:57
The USIH government assumes that Oil trade agreements formally arranged with the nation of Kuwait will continue now that most of Kuwait is held by one force. We are in need of oil and would not like to be forced to take our business elsewhere.

OOC: Im assuming Kuwait isnt a real NS nation because ive just made up those contracts which explain where my oil comes from. Also putting a TAG here.

Secret telegram from Ministry of Oil

All contracts with Kuwait have been placed on hold for the time being, due to the blockade of the Arab Gulf (the Arab name for the Persian Gulf). We are, however, to try and export certain commodities that you need in event that you should lend your complete military and political support for us in our time of need.

Ministry of Oil.

We are afraid that we cannot grant Military support to this invasion. We are very tied up in the war on terrorism and hence forth our Armed Forces are all deployed or in training. However not being aware of the full curcumstances surrounding this invasion we cannot supply political support at this current time. We will endeavor to find more information about the current curcumstances.

--- USIH State Department---
15-02-2004, 21:51
Message to Bedou

Bismillah ir-Rahman ir-Rahim.

To: Mohammed bin al-Deeb

Al Anbar understands the nature of the Bedouin. Our question, in case it was not clear, was about the strength and numbers of those willing to fight and where those tribes that are willing to fight are located. Al Anbar wishes to force the Zionist entity to fight on as many as fronts as possible. This will cause the Zionists to spread its forces around, making it easier on all our allied forces to defeat them.

Forces that are willing to fight within the Zionist entity itself - Jordan, Palestine, and Lebanon - should prepare to engage in a guerilla war against Zionist military positions. Forces outside of the Zionist entity should engage the Zionist border patrols and make raids into the entity itself. This will force the Zionists to keep a large force on the borders and inside the country in order to defend against such raids and attacks.

We will defeat the Zionists this time. If they continue to persue their Zionist goals, they will be defeated. We will retake the lands of Palestine and the Arabs and return them to the people.

Allahu Akbar. Allahu Akbar. Allahu Akbar.

Saddam Hussein
President of Al Anbar
Western Asia
16-02-2004, 00:00
Within minutes of the last set of messages in the Bedouin-Al Anbari commiunications being sent, it had already received by Western Asian electonic intelligence stations along the border and was on the desk of Chemel Walliah Kligerman, the head and commander of the sum of Western Asia's massive and widespread intelligence services. The limited encoding provided by the senders wasn't much of an issue for the modern supercomputers, taking less than half an hour to decode each of the messages.

Chemel Kligerman presents the data to the President personally, whose response is concise and sweet.

"Well, then, this doesn't leave much to the imagination...does it?"

"No, Mr. President, it doesn't. So what do we do?"

"Tell our naval forces to find and target any and all Bedou vessels and aircraft in this entire region...Then release this information to the press, original transcripts and recordings, I want them to hear Sheik Mohammed and Saddam personally. I want the news to break across the world, BBC, CNN, GINA, Al Jeezera...everything within the hour.

"If their forces so much as turn on their radars then have them destroyed.

"Also, find any Bedouins within Western Asia who are loyal to this nut. The Bedouins have been loyal Western Asian citizens since it was only Israel...some of the best fighters I ever knew during the Second Six Day War. Contact Sheik Jemaal Bin Dawidi, their leader in Israel province and talk to him about this Sheik Mohammed...he seems to be assuming Sheik Dawidi's territory, which I'm sure he'd love to know."

----------

Elsewhere, missile boats from the Destroyer patrol escort the detained Rotovian vessels and crew to Western Asian territory on the Red Sea. The crewmembers are ferried to a detention facility while military police and UN observers search the Rotovian vessels for violations. The personnel are allowed to send messages home through the local offices of the International Society for the Red Cross. The medical equipment aboard the vessels is cared for and monitored by Western Asian medical personnel and its perishables are inventoried and maintained.
Temujinn
16-02-2004, 00:14
*Open Transmission*

This is the ChaosClass 'Khan' of the Nation of Temujinn.
We are hailing all vessels in the Persian Gulf.

This is the - 'Khan' of the Nation of Temujinn.
We are hailing all vessels in the Persian Gulf.

We will be arriving in short order to deliver a weapons inspection team.
We do this under the U.N. charter.
Our team will board the Rotovian vessel.
Aquire a detailed evaluation of threat.
Announce our findings publically.

The Khan will remain in Gulf waters, to ensure the safe retrieval of Temujinn personell.
16-02-2004, 00:18
OOC: Really, Western Asia?

How do you know how we're communicating?

Perhaps it is through email, using 128bit PGP & RSA encryption? That is near impossible to crack. How do you know we are not using messengers to contact each other?

Please.
Bedou
16-02-2004, 00:43
*The tents of Sheik Mohammed*
"O'Merciful Al Deeb, a message from your cousin Sheik Jemaal Bin Dawidi,
It appears that Western Asia tracks and listens in a Al Anbars transmissions."
A small bedouin in dark robes bobs his head wildly gesticulating as he speaks.
"Tarek, it is of little import. Many things are brought before my table.
The Western Asians know that bedouins are sunnis, that we have a history of fighting opressors. However they have forgotten that Kuwait is a muslim nation, and while bedouins may very well get along with any culture, we are devoted muslims. The secular government of Iraq, has merely opened a door for a resurgence of Islam in Kuwait."

"Yes, sahib, of course. However the door for what kind of muslim?"

"Tarek, the sunni, are not known for blowing themselves up, or for blowing up women and children, or for making laws banning womens rights.
Imam Beydoun wishes to use this oppertunity to have a modernized Muslim state in the Mid-east. Most arabs would not like the tents, but a little more of All-h in their lives will not harm them.
As for the Western Asians, they are of 'The Book'. So we will deal with them as such, until it becomes otherwise impossible, the same with Al Anbar."

"Do we inform Al Anbar of the WA listening in ?"

"Go ahead, as soon as you can tell me how to do it without the WA knowing you have?"
Sheik Mohammed laughed, and then began examining a map of the what appeared to be the Balkans.
Western Asia
16-02-2004, 00:46
OOC: Really, Western Asia?

How do you know how we're communicating?

Perhaps it is through email, using 128bit PGP & RSA encryption? That is near impossible to crack. How do you know we are not using messengers to contact each other?

Please.
OOC: Yes, really.

How do I know? Because that's what electronic intelligence does...it monitors large regions from afar, picking up almost all communications. Israelis were monitoring all communications in East Africa from a ship parked off of the coast of africa before the Entebbe Raid...they were picking up the personal communications of Ugandan civil and military officials, even from their president.

"Perhaps it is through email, using 128bit PGP & RSA encryption?"
A: Iraq doesn't have local 128bit PGP & RSA technology.

B: You never said you were using it in the last message, at least. That's why I am specific about encoded transmissions, otherwise it's assumed that you're using simple encoding, like 56bit.

C: Modern government intelligence-level supercomputers used by the government can break 365 bit encoding within a few hours in late '90s. They allowed the software companies to intro 128bit encoding on some systems because they knew they could break it fairly easily…compared to most military-grade systems it’s kid’s play. Also, many computers can’t deal with anything more than 128bit encoding on a reasonable timescale. 128bit encoding is not modern, it's just simple and since only the US and other highly advanced countries really have the tech to break it they don't fear that other nations will break the code and it’s nice for corporations because most corporations couldn’t get licenses for the necessary equipment.

D: Email is even easier to crack than telephone and radio...it is sent across the world before getting to the recipient and one only needs to know how to access the channels. Something with all of those specific words would be picked up by even the simplest of data-mining programs. The fact that it would be stamped to your computer’s address would also make it instantly under observation.

E: If Bedou was communicating from where he says he is, it would definitely be passing though a system that WA was at least monitoring. We don't skimp on intelligence, which is why almost every Al Anbari unit, be it covered with camoflague or in the open, is on Western Asian tracking screens. Hundreds of satellite images and thousands of IMINT officers monitoring everything along your borders and almost everywhere in between daily. You're playing in my backyard.

"That is near impossible to crack."

Actually, no, that’s crap.


"How do you know we are not using messengers to contact each other?"

Because you said you were encoding messages earlier…and the communications were being transmitted.

Also, you’re acting on too short of a timescale for it to be personal messengers unless they’re being sent by electronic communications equipment.
16-02-2004, 01:15
Daily Briefing - Baghdad, Iraq, Al Anbar

After giving the daily briefing, Vice President Ramadan and Minister of Defense al-Tai were asked a question by a reporter from Al Jazeera.

"Today, as you may of known, the Western Asians released items said to be transmissions between you and a Bedouin sect. Can you confirm this?"

The Vice President took in a deep breathe, before responding.

"The Zionists are liars, just like the Americans. According to the American aggressors, we were said to have nuclear, chemical, and biological weaponry that can be deployed within minutes. As you have seen, this was a total lie. Iraq never had any such weaponry." explains Ramadan, pausing for a moment before continuing, "This is just another ploy by the Zionist aggressors to try and kill Arabs and take our lands. Even if these communications actually did take place, I do not know what they prove other than preparing for a defense of our Arab nation."

"Take the word of the Zionists with a grain of salt. They are liars and will be defeated if they try to do what the American aggressors tried in 2003."
Temujinn
16-02-2004, 05:44
*Outside the Persian Gulf*

"He says 'go' we go. He says 'stop' we stop. That is our job ensign."

"Aye aye Capt."

"Key up, the military open hailing frequency.
Attention Ships in the Gulf, this is the TNS vessel Khan.
We will be holding our position outside of the Gulf.

I just want ot let you boys out there know something.
You have a lot of fingers on a lot of triggers out there, and a whole mess of trouble should someone twitch.
We are not involved, so try not to twitch in our direction.

Good luck.

End Transmission."
Soviet Haaregrad
16-02-2004, 06:17
Haaregradian forces have been deployed to protect the "dog leg" connecting United Kurdistan to the sea. This is of strategic importance and must be kept open to both civilian and military traffic.

http://home.ripway.com/2004-2/68292/kurdmap.gif
16-02-2004, 06:20
OOC: Um...

You don't control that, Soviet. Remember? Syria and Iraq is mine. You never controlled anything in either.
Bedou
16-02-2004, 06:25
OOC: Are either one of you puppets of Islamaisbad? or is Islamaisbad a puppet of one of you two?
Soviet Haaregrad
16-02-2004, 06:26
OOC: Um...

You don't control that, Soviet. Remember? Syria and Iraq is mine. You never controlled anything in either.

OOC: Most of the dog leg is actually cut off from Turkey.

Anyways, this is certainly setting up a nice possible conflict. All money should be if conflict breaks out it's going to happen there first.
16-02-2004, 06:27
OOC: Um...

You don't control that, Soviet. Remember? Syria and Iraq is mine. You never controlled anything in either.

OOC: Most of the dog leg is actually cut off from Turkey.

Anyways, this is certainly setting up a nice possible conflict. All money should be if conflict breaks out it's going to happen there first.

OOC: Whatever is Turkish, I don't care about. Whatever is in Iraq and Syria is mine and UK was never there. :)
16-02-2004, 06:28
OOC: Are either one of you puppets of Islamaisbad? or is Islamaisbad a puppet of one of you two?

OOC: Not me.
Soviet Haaregrad
16-02-2004, 06:33
OOC: Um...

You don't control that, Soviet. Remember? Syria and Iraq is mine. You never controlled anything in either.

OOC: Most of the dog leg is actually cut off from Turkey.

Anyways, this is certainly setting up a nice possible conflict. All money should be if conflict breaks out it's going to happen there first.

OOC: Whatever is Turkish, I don't care about. Whatever is in Iraq and Syria is mine and UK was never there. :)

OOC:

Everyone else seems to recognize UK's claims, just play with it. I've lost pieces of my nation to make my region's map work. Anyways, having UK there means you always have a possible storyline to go.
16-02-2004, 06:35
OOC:

Everyone else seems to recognize UK's claims, just play with it. I've lost pieces of my nation to make my region's map work. Anyways, having UK there means you always have a possible storyline to go.

OOC: I will not. I was here before UK. If anything, I should've just ignored UK altogether, since you can't just claim part of my country.

It is similiar to what happened here http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=123603&highlight=

RICKINSTINE claimed Herezovgina(SP), when some country owned Bosnia & Herzovgina.
Soviet Haaregrad
16-02-2004, 06:38
OOC:

Everyone else seems to recognize UK's claims, just play with it. I've lost pieces of my nation to make my region's map work. Anyways, having UK there means you always have a possible storyline to go.

OOC: I will not. I was here before UK. If anything, I should've just ignored UK altogether, since you can't just claim part of my country.

It is similiar to what happened here http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=123603&highlight=

RICKINSTINE claimed Herezovgina(SP), when some country owned Bosnia & Herzovgina.

OOC:
It's not that similar. They claimed a part of Iraq that Iraq doesn't have any control over. It's like someone playing as Ireland and someone starting Northern Ireland and getting bitched at.
16-02-2004, 06:40
OOC:

Everyone else seems to recognize UK's claims, just play with it. I've lost pieces of my nation to make my region's map work. Anyways, having UK there means you always have a possible storyline to go.

OOC: I will not. I was here before UK. If anything, I should've just ignored UK altogether, since you can't just claim part of my country.

It is similiar to what happened here http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=123603&highlight=

RICKINSTINE claimed Herezovgina(SP), when some country owned Bosnia & Herzovgina.

OOC:
It's not that similar. They claimed a part of Iraq that Iraq doesn't have any control over. It's like someone playing as Ireland and someone starting Northern Ireland and getting bitched at.

OOC: uh, right. But, the groups that actually controlled that sector of Iraq did not go along with you, remember?! There is a reason we were almost at war when United Kurdistan was just created out of thin air.
Soviet Haaregrad
16-02-2004, 06:43
OOC:

Everyone else seems to recognize UK's claims, just play with it. I've lost pieces of my nation to make my region's map work. Anyways, having UK there means you always have a possible storyline to go.

OOC: I will not. I was here before UK. If anything, I should've just ignored UK altogether, since you can't just claim part of my country.

It is similiar to what happened here http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=123603&highlight=

RICKINSTINE claimed Herezovgina(SP), when some country owned Bosnia & Herzovgina.

OOC:
It's not that similar. They claimed a part of Iraq that Iraq doesn't have any control over. It's like someone playing as Ireland and someone starting Northern Ireland and getting bitched at.

OOC: uh, right. But, the groups that actually controlled that sector of Iraq did not go along with you, remember?! There is a reason we were almost at war when United Kurdistan was just created out of thin air.

True, so is this going to be somehow settled IC or through an OOC ignorefest?

IC would be fun and even if one side loses, if it's done well will be worth it.

OOC would be kinda lame...
16-02-2004, 06:44
True, so is this going to be somehow settled IC or through an OOC ignorefest?

IC would be fun and even if one side loses, if it's done well will be worth it.

OOC would be kinda lame...

OOC: Yes, it should be ICly done. That is why there maybe a war. :P

But just remember, UK never controlled any Iraqi or Syrian lands.
Soviet Haaregrad
16-02-2004, 06:47
True, so is this going to be somehow settled IC or through an OOC ignorefest?

IC would be fun and even if one side loses, if it's done well will be worth it.

OOC would be kinda lame...

OOC: Yes, it should be ICly done. That is why there maybe a war. :P

But just remember, UK never controlled any Iraqi or Syrian lands.

OOC:

Excellent. :) I've seen far too many RPs get to that "almost there" stage and die because no one can agree on anything.

No control but a valid and recognized claim. :wink:

I'll work on this tommorow, right now I gotta head off to bed.
16-02-2004, 06:58
True, so is this going to be somehow settled IC or through an OOC ignorefest?

IC would be fun and even if one side loses, if it's done well will be worth it.

OOC would be kinda lame...

OOC: Yes, it should be ICly done. That is why there maybe a war. :P

But just remember, UK never controlled any Iraqi or Syrian lands.

OOC:

Excellent. :) I've seen far too many RPs get to that "almost there" stage and die because no one can agree on anything.

No control but a valid and recognized claim. :wink:

I'll work on this tommorow, right now I gotta head off to bed.

OOC: Eh, not exactly. :)

Recognized by Western Asia and other anti-me people, perhaps. Valid? no.
Western Asia
16-02-2004, 07:21
OOC: Al Anbar, you of all people should realize that there are many actual geographies...or do you forget that I make the singular exception of ignoring my controls over about half of Syria during RPs with yourself, although I've had claims there since about when Western Asia began...many months before you.

Give up the ghost...and accept enough to let the RP roll. Let's roll.

A political power being recognized by one's enemies and not by one is a part of international politics...it doesn't mean it's invalid...it just means that your country denies its right to exist.
16-02-2004, 07:24
OOC: Al Anbar, you of all people should realize that there are many actual geographies...or do you forget that I make the singular exception of ignoring my controls over about half of Syria during RPs with yourself, although I've had claims there since about when Western Asia began...many months before you.

Give up the ghost...and accept enough to let the RP roll. Let's roll.

OOC: I'm not changing my stance on this with UK.

There is a big difference between your claims and my claims to Syria. My military action in Iraq would mean I was invading United Kurdistan, which I did not.
Western Asia
16-02-2004, 07:49
OOC: life is spin
Bedou
16-02-2004, 07:50
OOC: you can compare it to the civil war.
The south says we are the confederacy.
The north says no, you are the southern states.
The North NEVER attacked another nation, they attacked rebels.
Iraq never attacked UK, it attacked rebels.
See, for the sake of this RP call it a sepratist fringe,
Soviet will of course call it a legit nation, that is geo-politics, despotism, and you cant get more mid-eastern.
Bedou
16-02-2004, 07:52
just make the next post a decision.
Are we done, or do we continue.?
Western Asia
16-02-2004, 07:53
OOC: you can compare it to the civil war.
The south says we are the confederacy.
The north says no, you are the southern states.
The North NEVER attacked another nation, they attacked rebels.
Iraq never attacked UK, it attacked rebels.
See, for the sake of this RP call it a sepratist fringe,
Soviet will of course call it a legit nation, that is geo-politics, despotism, and you cant get more mid-eastern.
OOC:
Thank you, you see my point. Exactly.

We're done, let's continue...but a lot is dependant upon the negotiations and I want to at least let those get started before I break the news in that room about the Bedou-Al Anbar deals. I think that Rotovia needs to respond to WA and D about naval issues...and I might move around some military units but most are fine where they are. We might have another attempt to break the blockade from any number of vessels (more medical ships, civilian trading vessels, military units, etc.)
Bedou
16-02-2004, 08:53
Night began to settle on the gulf.
The WA vessels maintained high alert as clouds rolled in.
A strom front from nrth seemed to coming.
Radar depicted a concentrated thunderhead rolling over the water.
The operator thought 'this will be rough, but quick.'

The he looked again, checked the wind the speed, something was off.
He sounded alarms and called for other ships to verify his contacts.
Several hundred Km out something huge was moving , against the wind now.

Speed had increased dramatically, then suddenly a large portion broke away and headed in different direction then what was head for them.

fighters were ordered aloft, radio monitoring showed the Temujinn vessel outside the gulf was also preforming active tracking of what was in the sky with a very sophisticated array.
As pilots ran for there planes.
The first crackles came of over the radio.
"This 1st Capt. Ahmed Ali Rasheed of the Bedou Seglawi Group I, my group comprises eleven vessels, we will not attempt to by pass your blockade, though it would not be difficult. My formation will station its self along the Gulf entrance. My vessel the 'Lawrence' will move to edge of your blockade. As a sign we do not yet intend to fight, I place myself in harms way."

Fighters lifted off to meet these Seglawi, first the WA pilots who 'shadowed' these vessels saw it, then as Rasheed promised his vessel alone came into range.
http://ew2.lysator.liu.se/loth/r/o/romansro/airshipdreadnought.jpg
It was the strangest things they had ever seen.
Rotovia
16-02-2004, 08:56
*Open Transmission*

This is the ChaosClass 'Khan' of the Nation of Temujinn.
We are hailing all vessels in the Persian Gulf.

This is the - 'Khan' of the Nation of Temujinn.
We are hailing all vessels in the Persian Gulf.

We will be arriving in short order to deliver a weapons inspection team.
We do this under the U.N. charter.
Our team will board the Rotovian vessel.
Aquire a detailed evaluation of threat.
Announce our findings publically.

The Khan will remain in Gulf waters, to ensure the safe retrieval of Temujinn personell.

Open Transmission

"All Rotovian Medical Vessels, not currently detained by West Asian Barabarians, are to report immediately to the location of the Temujinn Fleet and submit for complete inspection. This is a direct order, relayed from the President himself."

Rear Admiral Janice Samson
Deputy Commander of the Naval Corps

OOC: I'm assuming around four vessels remain. All of these will need to be inspected.
16-02-2004, 08:58
OOC: Just a reminder... No future tech, sci-fi stuff, or anything else except modern tech. Also, no WMDs unless each party agrees to it.
Rotovia
16-02-2004, 09:09
Night began to settle on the gulf.
The WA vessels maintained high alert as clouds rolled in.
A strom front from nrth seemed to coming.
Radar depicted a concentrated thunderhead rolling over the water.
The operator thought 'this will be rough, but quick.'

The he looked again, checked the wind the speed, something was off.
He sounded alarms and called for other ships to verify his contacts.
Several hundred Km out something huge was moving , against the wind now.

Speed had increased dramatically, then suddenly a large portion broke away and headed in different direction then what was head for them.

fighters were ordered aloft, radio monitoring showed the Temujinn vessel outside the gulf was also preforming active tracking of what was in the sky with a very sophisticated array.
As pilots ran for there planes.
The first crackles came of over the radio.
"This 1st Capt. Ahmed Ali Rasheed of the Bedou Seglawi Group I, my group comprises eleven vessels, we will not attempt to by pass your blockade, though it would not be difficult. My formation will station its self along the Gulf entrance. My vessel the 'Lawrence' will move to edge of your blockade. As a sign we do not yet intend to fight, I place myself in harms way."

Fighters lifted off to meet these Seglawi, first the WA pilots who 'shadowed' these vessels saw it, then as Rasheed promised his vessel alone came into range.
http://ew2.lysator.liu.se/loth/r/o/romansro/airshipdreadnought.jpg
It was the strangest things they had ever seen.
OOC: I think it might be best if you delete this. It's seriously off track and may be subject to a barrage of ignore weaponary.
Daylam
16-02-2004, 15:17
OOC: If a war breaks out, I am going to use Iran's current military in my RP's, since Eye-Ran is not in this.

--------Alamut, Internationial Television---------

The Aga Khan once more took to the stand, with grave tidings for the anti-Muslim infidels.

"This seizure of Rotovian vessels is unlawful and will not be tolerated by Daylam. Any further hostile action taken against Rotovian vessels will result in Daylam's total and complete declaration of war on the infidel coalition. My words may be short, but its meaning is great."


Retreating to his private office amid thunderous cheering by Alamut's population, Aga Khan spoke to his Commander-in-Chief once more.


"Are all preparations ready, Sabbah?"

"Yes, sir, our forces are poised to take the western Iranian provinces and Tehran itself in a matter of days. The loss of 3 of their most important provinces should make Iran come to terms immediately. We will give back Tehran in exchange for the western provinces, and from there we can launch offensives into Western Asia. Our K1-88 tanks are on the border of Tehran province, supported by Su-30 planes while the western front is covered by mechanized infantry with a veritable arsenal of AA and AT weapons, though they will likely not be needed, considering the poor state of Iranian forces. Our army waits only for a single word."

"Very good, Sabbah. And our special ops forces?"

"On the WA border, awaiting orders."

"Excellent. Await further developments. If Western Asia or her allies lay so much as another finger on Al-Anbar or her allies, give the order to strike."

"Yes, sir."
Daylam
16-02-2004, 16:33
Meanwhile, on the eastern front, sub-commander Nader ad-Din sat nervously in his K1 armored division, looking across the border into Tehran province. No enemy forces could be seen, but he knew that across the horizon lay Tehran, capital of Iran and supreme object of the Daylami spearhead. His orders were to defeat any Iranian forces around Tehran, capture the city, and hold it against any counter-attacks by Iranian forces. Not a hard task, considering the quality of the forces he would be facing. The best weapon the Iranians had was the few T-72s they possessed, but the Milan anti-tank weapons, F-15J fighters, and K1 tanks he had would easily crush them and the other hodgepodge of run-down equipment Iran was armed with. Iranian forces around Tehran were numerous, but military estimates deemed that Daylam could drive them off easily.


On the western front, sub-commander Sala Bakr sat with equal anxiety. He was in his type 96 ATV, moving towards Iran's Ardabil province. The push on the western front would be made by infantry divisions supported by UH-60J attack helicopters, with the standard support of Milan anti-tank missiles and K-30 anti-aircraft vehicles. Iranian division(s) in the western provinces were deemed to be understrength with obsolete weaponry. The western provinces to be the object of Daylam's main thrust were Ardabil and East and West Azerbayejan. According to Hassan Sabbah, these would be traded for Tehran province when Iran was brought to its knees.
Bedou
16-02-2004, 17:18
OOC:I will send the specs of the Seglawi, to Western Asia, and AlAnbar and allow them to decide, none of the tech is future tech, you just arent looking at it with modern eyes.
Daylam
16-02-2004, 17:29
Daylam praises the Bedouin involvement in defense of Islam against Western imperialists. You have the full endorsement of Daylam, and if your nation is harmed by the infidels, Daylam will have no choice but to declare war against the entire Zionist coalition, as per our previous statement. If you ever have need of Daylam, we will be at your side.



----Imam Aga Khan of the Theocracy of Daylam
Western Asia
17-02-2004, 00:24
OOC: You'll have to excuse me, but since when did Daylam have all of this tech and weaponry...and the forces to combat Iran's hunreds of thousands of soldiers and defeat them instantly? I thought you were a small community in the far north of the country...not near Turkey. If you would like, I can have the Merkava divisions in Iran go to meet the T-72s (which the Merk. IIIDs and IVs will have no problem with, as the Merkava I had no problem defeating it in the 70s). Eye Ran is still in this.

Bedou, that's certainly pushing it to the limits...but since I have the huge Gatekeeper units in the same area armed with scores of powerful air-to-air missiles my commanders not too worried...so long as you don't ram them with those floating pointyness-es. I'll check on the stats and get back to you.
17-02-2004, 00:34
Military Situation, Al Anbar

Iraq

Extensive preperations, begun even before the return of army troops to Northern and Southern Iraq, have continued to be established. The People's Army has been called up for duty - a force made up of retired army soldiers, women, and those that opted to goto university instead of going into the army. They have been deployed all over the country and have been hard at work making trenches, barricades, and other defensive positions for the army to use.

The Republican Guard and the Special Republican Guard have both manned positions prepared by the People's Army in the capital, but still maintain a small appearance overall, not much more presence in the city then before the war.

In other cities, the presence of the Iraqi Army is much more pronounced, especially in the south in the north of Iraq. Peshmerga fighters from the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK), led by Jalal Talabani, have joined Iraqi forces in the mountainous positions near the Turkish border. The Kurdish Democratic Party (KDP), led by Mustafa Barazani, have also been spread along the Turkish/United Kurdistan border, but have also taken positions along the Iranian border, and are being assisted by Iraqi troops.

In the south, the Shi'ites are being put to work at making defensive positions for the mainly Sunni Iraqi army. There has been some violence between the Iraqi troops and the Iraqi Shi'ite civilians, but it has mostly been more religious disputes than anything else.

Syria

There has been extensive preperations in the Golan Heights region. Although, it no longer seems that most of the positions are occupied anymore. Only some of the best positions are fully manned, while others that are very vulnerable to Western Asian attack have either been severely understaffed or left completely unoccupied.

The Syrian People's Army has also been called up and positions have also been prepared for the army. In Damascus, and other major strategic cities have all received the same amount of preperations for war. Anti-aircraft guns have been deployed in abudance in both Syria and in Iraq.

Misc.

The regularly used frequencies of the army have all gone quiet. Communications between units and the government forces have been done through messengers.

There are also reports that the command and control of the army forces have been decentralized. Loyal figures to President Saddam Hussein have been sent to a 'zone', where they will control that entire area and assist with those on their flanks.

Al Anbar has also established three new radio stations. One is a shortwave station, named the Voice of the Defenders of the Arabs, which broadcasts twenty four hours, seven days a week to the entire Middle East region.

The second station, another shortwave station, broadcasts "Radio Palestine", and is being broadcasted to Western Asia, aimed at trying to get Western Asian soldiers to surrender or abandon their positions should a war break out.

The third station relays "Radio Palestine" but on a FM frequency, with several FM transmitters lined up along the border of Western Asia & Al Anbar, providing continious coverage throughout the entire length of the area.
Daylam
17-02-2004, 04:47
OOC: Who ever said I was a small community? I am a small nation though, but hardly a 'community'. Also, Daylam probably could be overwhelmed by Iranian numbers, eventually, but their strategy does not call for a prolonged war, if you read my post. And advanced technology? Most of the equipment I mentioned was ~1993 or less. I have been given equipment by certain nations and bought some of it, my economy isnt that bad [Strong]. No one said I could even pull off a complete defeat of Iran, much less an instant one. Since this is Al-Anbar's thread and he ignored Eye-Ran, I assumed I wouldnt have to fight him.
Finally, I dont have T-72s, thats what Iran has, the Daylami army has K1 type 88 tanks as their standard armor. Also, why do you have to piss on everyone's RP attempt? Jeebus man, lighten up!
Soviet Haaregrad
17-02-2004, 05:30
OOC: Just a reminder... No future tech, sci-fi stuff, or anything else except modern tech. Also, no WMDs unless each party agrees to it.

Are my speeder bikes ok? (Star Wars but with a 7.62mm machine gun instead of the laser)

If not I just need to use the older version, which used a shaft driven fan, JSF style.

IC:

Haaregradian forces are flying near constant recon flights over Al Anbar controlled airspace with RF-115 Advanced Arrow reconnaissance aircraft, with capabilities similar to that of the SR-71.

An additional Haaregradian unit, this time the 23rd Mixed Infantry.

(built like the Stormtroopers, but 3 regiments of Stormtroopers replaced with:
3x
>16 HT-98 Merkava MBT
>40 IFV-3 Snow Leopard IFV
>64 APC-85 armored personel carriers
>320 LW-99 Wolverine troop transport truck
>36 MA-5 40mmX2 self propelled anti-aircraft artillery
>36 SA-11 Archer SAM systems
>12 SA-12 Adder SAM systems
>4 SA-16 Ghosthunter SAM systems
>2 240 infantry men per unit, plus tank and IFV crews)

Haaregradian citizens rallied both for and against deploying military units outside of Haaregradia.

Possible attack and defensive strategies are being drafted and overlooked.