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ooc:

20 billion wired to current Bonstock terrorists along with plenty of weapons

ic:

A suicide bombing has occured today near a military installation in the mountains of Bonstock.

The government is now cracking down, jailingand interrogating suspected dissidents.

Some of those arrested have reported that their cause was funded by Dark Terror, a longtime enemy of Bonstock.

This comes after a group of some 2 million refugees were airlifted from Dark Terror. They were of a Chechen ethnicity, and were brutally surpressed by Dark Terror.

The refugees have started calling for action to be taken against Dark Terror. Some go as far as calling for war.

The government is weary of going to war. Though Bonstock has recovered from its civil war at a surprising rate, memories of the Dark Terror led bombing campaign still loom.

Dark Terror recently apologised for the bombings, which killed millions of innocent civilians. It has subsided some of the anti-Dark Terror fervor in Bonstock.

The Bonstocknian government has issued a statement condemning the Dark Terror funding of these terrorists, and demanded an apology for giving that funding. They added that they hoped Bonstock and Dark Terror could come to terms without war.

ooc: Dark Terror, who is the leader of your country?

*In high pitched Arab accent*

What are you talking about? Dark Terror would never do something like that?

*In high pitched Arab accent*

What are you talking about? Dark Terror would never do something like that?

*In a low pitched Texas accent*

If I says he does, well, he did. He has too many nucular weapons, which he would give to the terrorists without thought for his own people. Besides, I need an excuse to go to war because Iraq is getting my opinion polls down.

*In high pitched Arab accent*

What are you talking about? Dark Terror isn't here, it was a weather ballon.

*burns files*

*In a low pitched Texas accent, again.*

"Hey, that excuse is copyrighted."

*in a Brooklyn Italian accent*

Hey, fagghedaboudit!

*eats canoli*

The KTC (Kwaswhakistanni Terror Control) will be sending numerous troops to help find and capture these terrorists. About 1000 SOTD (Special Operations, Terrorist Defense) units will be sent, along wth about 20 Anti-Terrorist AGk-5 helicopters, and an Anti-Terrorist aircraft carrier fully stocked. Awaiting further details and instructions from Bonstock.

Fine, it was swamp gas reflecting off Agrigento's accent.

*In a low pitched Texas accent*

Git the hell out, we don't need you Europeans helpin us.

ic:

Go ahead and send them. I'm jsut pretending. As for the President of the United States...

ooc: lol, Italians are fighting in Iraq right now, just in case you didn't know :]
ic:

The Agrigentian Government has made a statement denying any involvement in these incidents. We send our condolences to the innocents killed by these terrorists.

Johnistan also denies any involvment in such bombings. The files we burned were of a pornographic nature and thus, not yours.

how dare you try and talk to those innocent victims! They are dead! You bastige, trying to talk to dead people!

I see dead people.

The files burned were of a pornographic nature

"NO! MY PORN FILES!!! I declare war..."

j/k

They were kiddie porn...you sick bastard!!

I n00k j00zzz!!!!111

They were kiddie porn...you sick bastard!!

I n00k j00zzz!!!!111

But I like kiddie porn....

I n00k j00z baK with 1998579287509872689726872 n00kz!!!!!!111 Ur ded!!!!!!1111

This is the line
_____________________

Know it well, you are crossing it...

pWNEDNJIOF

This is the line
_____________________

Know it well, you are crossing it...

*steps back and forth between the line when Agrigento is not looking*

can i cross the line too??

*Jumps across the line again and again and again, to annoy Agrigento*

*sees an Agrignetan soldier come to stop him*

*pulls out a pistol, and shoots the soldier*

"Look, mommy, I just killed an Agrignetinian!"

:roll: Just ease up on the child porn...

*Walks up and takes a piss over the line while no one is looking*

Ahhh, that was relieving...
j/k

There is no child porn, it was a plastic Jesus.

I was talking ot this guy on AIM and he started sending me child porn :shock: Needless to say, his AIM SN no longer exists and the authorities have been contacted :roll:

One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter, and communists are NOT human, but we deny involvement in these attacks.

tag.

tag.
Looking to get on my list of firing ranges, I see.

tag.
Looking to get on my list of firing ranges, I see.

Indeed. I always like being in your sights. Gives me something to laugh about.

Cheers,
W.

tag.
Looking to get on my list of firing ranges, I see.

Indeed. I always like being in your sights. Gives me something to laugh about.

Cheers,
W.
You might laugh harder when you find ohh lets say 1000 cap ships from me and my allies flattening your capital.

tag.
Looking to get on my list of firing ranges, I see.

Indeed. I always like being in your sights. Gives me something to laugh about.

Cheers,
W.
You might laugh harder when you find ohh lets say 1000 cap ships from me and my allies flattening your capital.

Listen - if you and I both bring all our friends to the party - we'd better figure out what number world war we're up to.

That being said - I haven't heard back from Bonstock on this matter at all - so it might be a moot point.

I think Ill just stick to bombing the hell out of you. Im really sick of mass naval wars.

Yo, DT, thanks for info on your strategy... mass bombing... I'll note that, and execute a few of my fleet admirals who kept claiming "Any war with Dark Terror will be a naval one" and wasted me money!

Wolfish: Thanks for the support, man. If it gets to war, I'll call you.

And if he goes to war with you, Bonstock will automatically declare war on Dark Terror.

Dark Terror. Finance terrorists. Ha! What a pathetic claim. What probably happened was Bonstock made up some false documents and planted it on these "terrorists" caught them and walla, justification for war against DT.

Bonstock, back off, seriously.

Bonstock, back off, seriously.

My military is not what it was during "the last war."

Maybe so...still.

I support Dark Terror!


FOR I AM, TECH-ANNIHATER!

I support Dark Terror!


FOR I AM, TECH-ANNIHATER!
Do you have to damage my reputaiton like this?

bonstock, your welcome, as this whole thread is more or less OOC garbage.

I support Dark Terror!


FOR I AM, TECH-ANNIHATER!I thought we were allies! No matter, as long as you want another HOUND.

Or worse... my T-1.

I support Dark Terror!


FOR I AM, TECH-ANNIHATER!
Do you have to damage my reputaiton like this?

bonstock, your welcome, as this whole thread is more or less OOC garbage.

reputation? The bisons? dude, those just don't go right!

Although, between the child porn and MagicChina spam, this is ooc garbage...

I support Dark Terror!


FOR I AM, TECH-ANNIHATER!
Do you have to damage my reputaiton like this?

bonstock, your welcome, as this whole thread is more or less OOC garbage.

reputation? The bisons? dude, those just don't go right!

Although, between the child porn and MagicChina spam, this is ooc garbage...
I mean reputation as in I dont want some guy whose more or less magic crater version 5 on my side.

My reputation is one of brute warmongering, not getting my ass kicked at every turn!

I support Dark Terror!


FOR I AM, TECH-ANNIHATER!
Do you have to damage my reputaiton like this?

bonstock, your welcome, as this whole thread is more or less OOC garbage.

reputation? The bisons? dude, those just don't go right!

Although, between the child porn and MagicChina spam, this is ooc garbage...
I mean reputation as in I dont want some guy whose more or less magic crater version 5 on my side.

My reputation is one of brute warmongering, not getting my ass kicked at every turn!

This is a classic post. Perfect insult - but I still don't like you.

Not getting your ass kicked at every turn because of brute godmoddery! Did you ever post losses from Wazzu's laser attack?

Allanea voices it's support of Dark Terror.

250 Anne-Coulter fighter-bombers are being readied to flight.

Allanea voices it's support of Dark Terror.

250 Anne-Coulter fighter-bombers are being readied to flight.

Anne Coulter?

Should I send in "Al Franken" interceptors, or should I just stick to the French?

The "Second Amendment" Supercarrier,
the "John F. Kennedy" Supercarrier
the "John Dingell" SuperCarrier,
and their escort (20 Nanuchka-Class missile firgates and 5 SSBN's) are en route to the region. They have 350 Anne-Coulter Fighter-Bombers on board (the Neal Knox Squadron). The 250 fighter-bombers mentioned previously (the Angel Shamaya Squadron) are on alert status in our Atlantic Island Colony.

En route to intercept them are four Bonstocknian carrier battle groups, with a total of 4 supercarriers, 24 escort cruisers with AEGIS, 8 submarines, and 4 support ships.

They are ordered not to engage the enemy in combat as hostilities have not broken out yet and are not expected to break out.

On board are some 420 fighters.

ooc: Atlantic Island? Bonstock's nowhere near the Atlantic.

Not getting your ass kicked at every turn because of brute godmoddery! Did you ever post losses from Wazzu's laser attack?
I blanket ignore future tech, and he said himself its 2050 tech (more the targetting systems than the lasers- I have lasers myself).

But I was generous, so I let him shoot down 4 bombers.

OOC: Atlantic Island is in the Maine NS region.

Secret IC:
18 Taganrog class nuclear powered attack subs, armed with the 3,000km ranged SS-N-24 Scorpion hypersonic cruise missiles, have set out to get within striking distance of Bonstock.

The bomber force is already on high alert due to the war with fluffywuffy, but is being prepared for possible strikes against bonstock. Although as DT recognizes the growing power of air defense systems has made stealth more or less obsolete, they will be using strategic cruise missiles this time should hostilties begin. Port Yuko Firebombing version 2!

I always like being in your sights.Me, too.
Im really sick of mass naval wars.Why?
I support Dark Terror!


FOR I AM, TECH-ANNIHATER!I wonder if anyone'll nuke you for that...
/tag

Why am I sick of mass naval wars?

Because its so well.. pointless. IRL, both fleets wouldve been completely annihalated within 10 minutes, on NS all it takes is for the other fleet to get within range.

Which is why I prefer submariens and aircraft (hey, my planes did sink 20 carriers...).

Nianancio, you said you were needed somewhere else. So once our fleets annihalate each other, youll send most of your remaining fleet to that somewhere else, and me and my allies can attack you.

FOR I AM, TECH-ANNIHATER!I wonder if anyone'll nuke you for that...
/tag

They shouldnt, its been obvious to me since his nation was a week old.

Nianancio, you said you were needed somewhere else. So once our fleets annihalate each other, youll send most of your remaining fleet to that somewhere else, and me and my allies can attack you.Beware my secret weapon. :twisted:
They shouldnt, its been obvious to me since his nation was a week old.I meant for siding with DT, not for being TA.

Oh, gotcha.

C'est La Vie

The Bonstocknian Air Force is on DEFCON 1. Fighters line up on their bases, but make sure to stay under tent hangers, lest they be seen by Dark Terror. Meanwhile, 2,000 PATRIOT batteries can be seen in and around Port Yuko.

OOC:
I only need to get my bombers within 2500km to start mass devastation. Since they can go mach 3, they can run away fairly quickly, too.

Youre on Taiwan, correct? That would mean my long range interceptors could even escort my bombers... Im at the level of Tokyo and northern japan, however if I use bases in southern ardor, there will be no problems :twisted:

OOC:
I only need to get my bombers within 2500km to start mass devastation. Since they can go mach 3, they can run away fairly quickly, too.

Youre on Taiwan, correct? That would mean my long range interceptors could even escort my bombers... Im at the level of Tokyo and northern japan, however if I use bases in southern ardor, there will be no problems :twisted:

ooc: That's it - move your offensive capabilities out of your nation. It'll make it less crowded for my boys to come in a kick up a little dust.

ooc: No, I'm not located in Taiwan. My puppet Maropian Coast is.

Well, I'm a puppet of Bonstock too.

I'm located more around French Polynesia. But beware of forward prepositioned bases around Maropian Coast.

IC: Another 4,000 PATRIOT batteries are now visible around Port Yuko, with another 3,000 in Maropian Coast.

OOC:
Wolfish, if you want to attack me, you should know that I have a 70 mile coastline which is the current front with fluffywuffy, namely 20,000 Leclerc tanks from macabees are going to rip his forces to pieces. I have around 15,000 tanks in the area as well, plus 90% of my artillery. The other coastline is a river mouth, the river mouth is 40 miles across, then about 15 miles of coastline on either side. Did I mention that that coastline makes the atlantic wall look like a childs toy?

Tank strength:
DT: >90,000
Ardor: >122,000

Yeah, and Ardors fleet hasnt seen aciton yet, it should repusle you while
my subs blow nianancios fleet to pieces.


Yeah, and 7,000 patriot batteries seems a tad high... Oh well, Ill just shoot off 7,000 AS-17 missiles.

And I can always shoot down the AS-17s... or jam them and send them into the sea. Same with your cruise missiles.

And if 7,000 Patriots is godmodding, so is 90,000 tanks.

I've learned alot from our last war, DT. And I've realized some things about war. But on a different note, did you read the link I sent you in your war with Fluffywuffy thread? I didn't think so...

So, you gonna get this war on or what? Or are you just too scared of the Bonstocknian Flygsvapnet?

OOC:
Not my policy to start wars unless my sovereignity is violated in some way. You can illegally board one of my merchant ships, then Id "get this show on the road".

Jam them? Uhh no sorry, these have over a 90% hit rate against patriot batteries, and yes jamming is taken into account. Shoot them down? Yeah, you could try, but they go mach 3.5 and are somewhat small. not to mention they were practically exclusively designed for patriot killing. So Ill shoot 10,000 to be on the safe side, accounting for some that go into the sea and some that get shot down.

The US has around 10k tanks. Im more than 10 times as big, so I get 90k tanks.

The US doesn't have 10k tanks. Unless your talking about reserve tanks. It has only 5,000 or so M1s, in all variants. And besides, you population is around 1.5 billion. US has population of 300 million. You're about 5 times as large as the US. So, you should only have 25,000 tanks, by that logic, and I would have about 20,000 being 4 times as large as the US.

And my jamming technology is fairly advanced. Way more advanced then the US or Russia. Note that my private sector is dominated by IT.

And my jamming technology is fairly advanced. Way more advanced then the US or Russia. Note that my private sector is dominated by IT.
Naturally, the missiles have been modernized as well :roll: Jamming isnt invincible.

The US has something like 9,000 abrams tanks, counting reserves its over 18,000, though those include other models. Russia has 41,000 tanks in service either way (all with ERA blocks, all modernized, mostly T-72BM's, which are similar to T-90's but have a diff fire control system).

And 7,000 patriot systems is more or less bullshit, how much does the US have?

I don't know how many Patriots the US has. But the US doesn't have the same strategic situation as I do. I'm mostly concerned with air defence and striking back with my own bombers, and have tailored my military accordingly.

OOC:
Anyways, composition of the Bisonic Tank Force:
-9,000 T-72AU (Yeah, you think theyre burning hulks by the side of the road, actually they make abrams look like cannon fodder. Theyre T-72AG's mixed with the main components of the GT-1)
-8,000 T-62AU (Read above description, only these have 125mm ETC guns not 135mm ETC; also theyre based on the T-62AGM)
-10,000 T-55AU (Read above, based on T-55AGM)
-10,000 T-7 Gilgamesh' (Supertanks imported from Hole Where Evil Lives)
-30,000 GT-1's
-20,000 GT-2's
-2,500 Sprut-SM (Amphibious and airdroppable tanks)

Link to the GT-1 and GT-2 stats:
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=90386

Inventory US Army 4,393 M1A1 586 M1A2
588 M1A2 SEP
Inventory USMC 403 M1A1

5970 M1 tanks.

I don't know how many Patriots the US has. But the US doesn't have the same strategic situation as I do. I'm mostly concerned with air defence and striking back with my own bombers, and have tailored my military accordingly.
Well there you go, BTW I also have a large air defense system, well and around 3,000 land based SAM systems of various types (not including hand held SAM systems).

Inventory US Army 4,393 M1A1 586 M1A2
588 M1A2 SEP
Inventory USMC 403 M1A1

5970 M1 tanks.
And how much do the marine corps operate?

403 it says right there.

OOC:
You can illegally board one of my merchant ships, then Id "get this show on the road".

OOC:
You can illegally board one of my merchant ships, then Id "get this show on the road".


Why don't you board one of my merchant ships?

403 it says right there.
This is kinda pointless, but according to a little book called Modern American Weapons (I can get the author, etc.), the total is around 9,060.

OOC:
You can illegally board one of my merchant ships, then Id "get this show on the road".


Why don't you board one of my merchant ships?
OOC:
Send one into my territorial waters, and Ill be glad to not board it but simply sink it!

403 it says right there.
This is kinda pointless, but according to a little book called Modern American Weapons (I can get the author, etc.), the total is around 9,060.
Never heard of it. But it may have included the original M1, with its 105mm cannon.

Globalsecurity.org included only M1A1 and M1A2. Your book must have been written when the original M1 was still in service, around the 1980s and 70s.

Check the copyright date.

double post.

OOC:
You can illegally board one of my merchant ships, then Id "get this show on the road".


Why don't you board one of my merchant ships?
OOC:
Send one into my territorial waters, and Ill be glad to not board it but simply sink it!

What if it accidently drives into Fluffywuffy's fleet? And what if it's a private yacht?

Yes it does include the original M1. All M1's are being converted to M1A2's though.

Now, send a ship into my waters, then Ill not only sink it, but Ill declare war. Deal?

OOC:
You can illegally board one of my merchant ships, then Id "get this show on the road".


Why don't you board one of my merchant ships?
OOC:
Send one into my territorial waters, and Ill be glad to not board it but simply sink it!

What if it accidently drives into Fluffywuffy's fleet? And what if it's a private yacht?
Send it to my other coastline. And Ill sink it anyway, since only approved shipping is allowed there and other boats are sunk no questions asked.

Yes it does include the original M1. All M1's are being converted to M1A2's though.

Now, send a ship into my waters, then Ill not only sink it, but Ill declare war. Deal?

Fine.

http://www.hoofers.org/sailing/youth/images/canoe.jpg

They were vacationing in Ardor, and while on a fishing trip in the ocean, they just HAPPENED to paddle into Dark Terror territorial waters...

Well, this is my first post in this thread and alot of is was nonsense at the beggining. As DT said my naval forces have yet to see any combat in this theatre. MY entire naval forces were massed in my southern waters and they number at around 900 combat ships with around 532 being of the frigate size or larger and including over 26 carriers. The total ships in the area numbers in at around 1100 ships(the noncombat beeing resupply and transport ships). As for the tanks, around 70,000 can be deployed at once. Tanks include:
24,000 M1A3 abrams
49,000 MT-79(i could give you specs, but i lost then when i got my new pc parts.)
33,000 LT-22(i've got a thread thats quite old, but it has the specs)
16,000 various foreign tanks including T-90's, leopard 2's, ETC.

Just to be clear about these numbers, i spend almost half of my budget on my military, which is somethign like 9+ trillion dollars(just for military). and if anyone has a link to the GDP calculator i could use it cuase when i reformatted i lost it.

Yes it does include the original M1. All M1's are being converted to M1A2's though.

Now, send a ship into my waters, then Ill not only sink it, but Ill declare war. Deal?

Fine.

http://www.hoofers.org/sailing/youth/images/canoe.jpg

They were vacationing in Ardor, and while on a fishing trip in the ocean, they just HAPPENED to paddle into Dark Terror territorial waters...

As they were on a travel visa in ardor for 4 weeks, they are not to be held as Bonstockian citizens but guests of the ardorian people.

All right, they've gone into DT water; he can shoot them now...

In support of DT I have placed my bomber force on alert status. [eh I don't feel like writing out a full RP I don't feel well so.]

Top Secret
The Emperor sat in his chair. The man who entered was the general in charge of the space division. He looked at the Emperor and said, "Our anti-stealth system is finally operational. All those years and a trillion dollars to show for it but it's working. It'll give us a five hundred mile picture around Layarteb and its commonwealths. Not even a honey bee will get into Layarteb airspace without us knowing it."

"Who knows about this?" The Emperor asked.

"You, me, the workers, and a few other people. Everyone is qualified for the job, sworn to secrecy, and they've all proven themselves."

"Is there a risk of a leak?"

"We'd have a better chance being invaded by fruit flies that have venom suckers and thirty foot bodies."

"Very well. What's the word on the latest air defense systems?"

"Test ran perfect sir. We obliterated the target missiles going at Mach 2.35 at ranges of 20 to 75 miles."

"Good."

FOR I AM, TECH-ANNIHATER!I wonder if anyone'll nuke you for that...
/tag

They shouldnt, its been obvious to me since his nation was a week old.

I already admitted it, that I was Tech on the first day I got ATA.

OOC: You should really post how many anit-air battalions you have as opposed to naming an exact quantitiy of Patriot missile systems. I'm here to say that I've been doing my research and my forces are being organised (not as in mobilised but that will come after should we choose). Yes as I have also seen most of this thread is just trash talking. Next time don't make me read all that garbage.

IC: Again the nation of Hole Where Evil Lives pledges its alleigance with Dark Terror in any insuing wars. Whether or not our forces will be deployed before this war is over will be seen.

20 Carriers
60 Kearsarge Class Destroyers
40 Dubya Class Cruisers
70 Raymond Class Frigates
60 Submarines

They are on their way in case of war.

Secret IC:
All allied forces are requested to send subs within striking distance of Maorpian Coast (its on Taiwan).

Assuming its just another pair of ardorian tourists blown off course, eveyone goes back to sleep but an ancient musket is pointed out towards sea to be used in repulsing a possible "invasion"

I have just sortied the 3rd fleet. It is on its way from a forward naval port with the following:

3rd Fleet
2 Improved Nimitz CVNs
4 Ticonderoga CGs
4 AEGIS Flight IIA DDGs
4 Oliver Hazard Perry FFGs
8 Supply AOEs
2 Iowa BBs
8 Other support ships
4 Sea Shadow II SABs
1 Layarteb BB
2 Arsenal Ships

CAW-5 & CAW-6 have (equal amounts split)
24 C-2 Greyhound
8 E-2C Hawkeye
8 EA-6B Prowler
8 EA-18A Growler
24 F-14D Tomcat
36 F/A-18C Hornet
36 F/A-18E/F Super Hornet
4 HH-60H Seahawk
16 S-3B Viking
8 SH-60F Seahawk

5th Submarine Force
4 688/I SSNs
4 Seawolf SSNs
4 Ohio SSBNs
4 Virginia SSNs
3 New York SSBNs

Select ICBMs are being deployed with conventional warheads. These include: 400 LGM-30G Minuteman III with 3 MIRV warheads each packing roughly 5,000-lb. of TNT; 400 LGM-118A Peacekeepers with 10 MIRV warheads each packing roughly 3,000-lb. of TNT; and 400 LGM-134A Midgetmans with a single 5,000-lb. of TNT warhead. The missiles have CEPs under 400 feet for the LGM-118 and LGM-30 and under 300 feet for the LGM-134.

They have enough range to reach their targets and improved warheads allow for hard target penetration on all of them, especially the 5,000-lb. warheads which pose double the power of the 3,000-lb. ones. All MIRVs can be independantly guided to their targets using GPS homing.

Orbital Weapons platforms are being shifted into gear, just in case, hopefully they won't be needed.

Aircraft are all on alert and support tankers are in place to allow a full ride there and back, especially for the bombers.

www.theforsakenoutlaw.com for specs on items you do not recognize.

**Top Secret**

The Emperor picked up the phone as it rang twice. "Hello?" He was expecting the call.

"Sir, it's General Adesh at the space HQ. Sir another test of the anti-stealth detection system has proved highly successful. An RC model plane was picked up on the system at a range of four hundred and sixty-two miles sir."

"Very well. It's not far enough to defend against cruise missiles but it will defend against bombers with bombs and short-range attack missiles. How is the weapon guidance system working out?"

"Sir we guided a Standard SM-3 LEAP missile into the target at a range of three hundred and ten miles. Patriot PAC-2 and PAC-3 systems have been integrated as well and Twin Towers ships are in place. We are also going to deploy land-based anti-ballistic missile systems, namely the THAAD system sir."

"Give me the specifications on that system."

"Sir it has a range of one hundred and twenty-five miles. Hit to kill like the LEAP. It is being deployed where we have no access via waterway."

"Guidance tracking?"

"All operational. A test drove one into a similiar RC plane at a distance of one hundred and seventeen miles. These planes have roughly the same signature on radar as do the F/A-22."

"Progress on our homecooked ABM system?"

"Sir we're not too quick off on that. We have no deployments yet but that is easily done. They can be fired out of standard launchers for the THAAD. We have roughly one hundred and fifty missiles procured but their launcher has yet to be completed, there have been some difficulties. They are roughly five feet longer than the THAAD and thus will stick out of the THAAD launcher but it can be used as a temporary fix. We can put ten on a launcher sir. I don't have the full specifications with me sir."

"Get them deployed. Call me back in two hours with the specifications on those."

"Yes sir." He hung up the phone and smiled, the Emperor knew that Layarteb was going to be safe.

Private Transmission to Wolfish Battle Fleets.

"ComSig to Forward Deployed Fleets - BattleGroups 1 to 20

Prepare for Rapid Resupply and new mission orders.

Previous orders suspended. All leaves cancelled effective immediately by order of President James Todler."

OOC:
Im getting a bit bored with this, time to teach Bonstock a lesson. heres a little trick I got from Klamath:
IC:
Several minutes ago, an object moving at around mach 4 was detected at 90,000 feet, attempting to enter Bisonic airspace. S-400PM SAM units immediately opened fire on the spy plane and shot it down on the second missile' this intrusion has been blamed on bonstock. The minister of foreign affairs, Vladimir Zhirinovsky (a few people might know who he is... do a google search :) ), was quoted as saying that "Bisonic Troops will soon be washing their bootstraps in the warm waters of the South China Sea; on beaches in Taiwan!", as well as a comment about "blatant imperialism" being severly punished.

The Duma has approved, in a 93-57 vote, a declaration of war against The Federal Republic of Bonstock, with surrender terms being outlined as the surrender of Maropian Coast (Taiwan) and all equipment located on it, as well as fully paying for all deployments taken by Dark Terror and its allies.

The first strikes have begun, with a total of 252 SS-N-24 Scorpion hypersonic cruise missiles [conventional warheads] having been fired at airports inside Maropian Coast, each with 2 warheads. Tu-160's, Tu-180's, Tu-95's, and Mo-2's have depleted DT's stock of 650 AS-15 Kent cruise missiles (mach .9, 3000km range, similar to the US ALCM, conventional warheads version), also these were aimed at airports. A further 750 AS-19 Koalas (air launched SS-N-24's) are being prepared for immediate launch.

Johnistani forces are moving to aid Dark terror in the ass kicking

The phone rang exactly two hours later. "Hello?" The Emperor asked.

"Sir I have those specifications for you."

"Proceed."

"Twenty-five feet long two inches. Sixty-three inch finspan. Fourteen and a half inch diameter. Five thousand pounds. She can travel at up to six thousand miles per hour. She has a ceiling of one hundred miles. Against aircraft it can go seven hundred miles, against cruise missiles five hundred, and against ICBMs only four hundred. Its a three-stage rocket system. The first stage gets it up to around thirty miles in only thirty seconds. The second stage will get it to seventy miles and handle its correction to the target. The last stage is the hit-to-kill vehicle and it will go to the target reaching terminal velocity of six thousand miles per hour on impact. She can pulled thirty-two Gs on a manuevering target. It has a one hundred percent shot of kill on an aircraft, ninety-eight on an ICBM, and ninety-two on a cruise missile. Guidance relays can be datalinked to the system."

"It got a name and designation?"

"MIM-169A Sky Sabre sir."

"I like it. Deploy them where it is most effective to increase coverage."

"Yes sir." The Emperor hung up the phone and called the Air Force general.

"General Bowden this is the Emperor. I have some orders for you." They were buddies from the civil war and often the Emperor got a laugh at how he called him.

"Sure what do you got sir?"

"High-value targets. Take out a hundred of them with the Valkyries."

"Yes sir. We can put ten AGM-129s in each of them."

"Conventional only general."

"Yes sir these are. Same warhead as in the GBU-34s sir. We'll knock out any hard target."

"Good. Have them launch immediately. Stand-by with B-52s, B-1s, and B-3s, I am not certain what the deal is after this strike and make sure they get there and back in one piece!"

"Yes sir!"
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The seventy-two B-70s were all fueled and ready to go. Sixty of them would be carrying ten AGM-129s each. The other twelve were electronic escorts. The bombers would ascend to an altitude of seventy-five thousand feet and cruise to the target at Mach 3, refueling just after weapons release, which would be at a range of eighteen hundred miles.

The way to the target would be quiet and uneventful. They were too high, too fast, and too far away to be challeneged by enemy fighters and air defenses, giving them the ability to fire their missiles at maximum range, refuel from awaiting KC-10s and return to base. The mission was eleven hours from start to finish. Their volley of three hundred ACMs headed to the targets on the Maropian coast and they returned with another three hundred.

These were advanced cruise missiles, better than the CALCM in that they had better accuracy and were significantly stealthier. They carried less of a warhead but made up for it in sheer ability to penetrate the target and destroy it with a single blow.

ooc: Can we get a run down of who is with who?

Obviously, I'm with Bonstock.

--deleted--

ooc: Can we get a run down of who is with who?

Obviously, I'm with Bonstock.
OOC:

Attacking Bonstock:
Johnistan
Ardor
Me
Layarteb

Pro Bonstock:
You
Him

IC: Again the nation of Hole Where Evil Lives pledges its alleigance with Dark Terror in any insuing wars. Whether or not our forces will be deployed before this war is over will be seen.

So HWEEL might be involved, too.

How's your latin?

Morituri te Salutant.

The Johnistani fleet will be moving into strike range and are preparing their missiles. The Kearsarge class destroyers will be moving in first, they have 650 vertical launch tubes each, 8 lasers, 12 Iron Storm systems, and 100 SAMs

Before DT's soldiers clean thier shoes of Bonstock.
Bonstock what evidence do you have DT actually support these terrorist?
If you have irrefutable then go get your ass kicked and get more of your people killed OR you back out in light of lack of evidence and do the best for your people in this time of tragedy.

Before DT's soldiers clean thier shoes of Bonstock.
Bonstock what evidence do you have DT actually support these terrorist?
If you have irrefutable then go get your ass kicked and get more of your people killed OR you back out in light of lack of evidence and do the best for your people in this time of tragedy.
TO late for that, surrender terms have been outlined!

Transmission to Wolfish Fleet
(on an open, interceptable channel)

All Naval Units in Task Force will set course 120, and return to Wolfish waters with all possible speed.

Wolfish Defense Council has decided that no action will be taken in the defense of Bonstock.

End Transmission.

At this time a massive fleet is being deployed to the Taiwanese coast lines. These forces include:
18x Nimitz class carriers
2x Red Dragon class super carriers
56x Ticonderoga class Crusiers
46x Aleigh Burke Class Destroyers
72x KIDD class destroyers
36x Oliver Hazzard Perry Destroyers
36x WASP Amphibious assualt ships
24x Seawolf Class Fast attack subs
10x Virginia class FAS
15x OscarIII sub
12x Ohio class ballistic missle subs
19x Los Angeles class ballistic missle subs
15x Iowa class battleships
42x Kirov class crusiers

This is a massive amount ships and will take around 3 weeks sailing time(like 40 minutes RL).

Also A large ground Invasion force is beeing assembled, which numbers at around 400,000 personel and estimates of around 140,000 ground vehicles(including tanks, hum-vee's ,ETC) this force will be following the large fleet a few weeks after. Specifics of the forces numbers will be dealt with at a later date.

The 565th Airborne Division and 12th Infantry divsion is being prepared along with 1-30th Armored Cavalry Divisions.

OOC:
Bonstock, youre really screwed :lol:

The unit selection for the invasion force goes as following: the 8th Infantry division, the 2nd Cavalry division, the 82nd Airborne, the 3rd Imperial Guard, 6th, cavalry and the Entire 4th Corps have been selected. The 4th corps has a total of about 7 infantry divisions and 5 cavalry divisions.

Oh yeah, the 1-10th Mechanized Infantry Divisions are also being prepared.

Attack shuttles and satellites are moving into strike positions.

OOC: Is anything flying within 400km of my fleet on the way to war?

OOC: Is anything flying within 400km of my fleet on the way to war?

Hey, is your fleet on thewest or east shores of dt, and if so what are the numbers.

My forces are almost within attack range.

OOC: Is anything flying within 400km of my fleet on the way to war?

Hey, is your fleet on thewest or east shores of dt, and if so what are the numbers.OOC:
West, with 20 CVBG'S.

Dont worry about it, if it goes any closer to shore itll run into my sub force.

well, none of my ships are heading your way as they are all heading west.

20 CVBG'S.OOC: Twenty-five plus some transports and patrol boats. The midget subs haven't been released, yet.
Dont worry about it, if it goes any closer to shore itll run into my sub force.With all those aircraft you have guarding them, the location of your subs isn't so secret, so my fleet isn't going closer.
well, none of my ships are heading your way as they are all heading west.What about aircraft?

OOC:
And that might be a slight problem. How far away is your fleet from my subs?

Aircraft, none at the moment, except for a few patrol aircraft that are patroling around my fleet. ANd if thye are touched you will have somewhere arounf 1,000 Harpoon and othe ASM missles aimed at your ships. THe max range of my misles being 578nm, so your forces are in range.

OOC:
And that might be a slight problem. How far away is your fleet from my subs?OOC: Well, I don't know how far apart the ships are in a carrier group, but over 200km. *Looks through thread for indications of speed* 'Kay, they're probably a bit over 400km away.
THe max range of my misles being 578nm, so your forces are in range.So they're high-trajectory missiles?

OOC:
And that might be a slight problem. How far away is your fleet from my subs?OOC: Well, I don't know how far apart the ships are in a carrier group, but over 200km.
THe max range of my misles being 578nm, so your forces are in range.So they're high-trajectory missiles?


The ones your in range of are, but since i'm not moving to attack you, but moving to attack bonstock, we should be fine here, unless of course you target those planes of mine patroling my fleet, or touch any of my land that is bordered wiht DT.

OOC:
If theyre 400km away, theyre within my 500km ranged missiles range. So Id be able to attack some.

**SECRET MESSAGE TO DT**

Where do you want my fleet to operate from?

**END TRANSMISSION**

**SECRET MESSAGE TO DT**

Where do you want my fleet to operate from?

**END TRANSMISSION**
[Secret IC]
Naval bases in Southern Ardor, pending his approval. We will blockade TAiwan after we deplete our strategic cruise missile stockpiles.

**SECRET MESSAGE TO DT**

Where do you want my fleet to operate from?

**END TRANSMISSION**
[Secret IC]
Naval bases in Southern Ardor, pending his approval. We will blockade TAiwan after we deplete our strategic cruise missile stockpiles.

**SECRET MESSAGE TO DT**
Will comply. Going to orbit out 200 miles from shore and provide point defense for bombers. I'm also conducting operations searching for enemy subs with my own throughout the AO. So far nothing significant.

ooc: sorry for not being avaliable; i was flying cross country

ic:

ON the shores, Maropian Forces, trained by Bonstocknian Special Ops personnel, man extensive shore defence bunkers. The cruise missiles would have no effect on these well built bunkers, build originally to survive the rebels when they were about to invade. There would be no surrender in Maropian Coast.

The government of Bonstock balantly denies any spy plane use. We offer negotiations, and will declare war if necissary. We believe this can be solved peacefully.

Meanwhile, in Bonstock proper, defenses are prepared. Air defense especially. Fighters stand ready, including an odd looking fighter that looks right out of the 60's. It hides under canvas tents all day and night, silently waiting of its day of use.

ON the tarmac, more aircraft prepare themselves. If Maropian Coast is attacked, the operation goes into full swing...

OOC:
Did you notice I fired somehting like 700 AS-15 Kent cruise missiles at airports, also 252 AS-19 Koala hypersonic cruise missiles at airports?

OOC:
Did you notice I fired somehting like 700 AS-15 Kent cruise missiles at airports, also 252 AS-19 Koala hypersonic cruise missiles at airports?

I launched 300 AGM-129 ACMs but I wasn't going to say anything yet LOL!

OOC:
In case youre asking, bonstock, both of thsoe missiles have 3000km ranges. AS-15 goes mach .9 and is like the american ALCM, AS-19 goes mach 5.

okay removed

OOC:
Layarteb, since I think stealth is bullshit, posting penetration of his AD defenses without asking is a bit poor.....

Unless you got soem sort of viable anti-stealth system then those F-19s and F-24s are virtually unseen. They have a radar signature 1/1000th that of the F-117.

Unless you got soem sort of viable anti-stealth system then those F-19s and F-24s are virtually unseen. They have a radar signature 1/1000th that of the F-117.
OOC:
That might be bullshit too.

Bonstock could just track them by their radars. Boom.

ooc: Target my airports, will you?

ic: The bombs do serious damage to Maropian Airports, all abandoned. JAS 39 Gripens have flown away, all dispersed onto highways, sheltered by the thick forests. Bonstocknian Patriot batteries claim many missiles, and Gripens intercept the Layerteb planes. They were not normal Gripens, but a high altitude plane designed to intercept targets up to 105,000 feet. And stealth was no problem for them. 160 Gripens intercepted, and got locks on their targets. They fired their missiles, and then dove down.

ooc: oh wait, removed? Scratch some things...

OOC:
Stealth is not bull. It all depends on the aircraft though. The NightHawk and B2 are stealthy enough not to be detected at all. If you build a good enough AD system then yes you may knock them out by the more subtle detectors like the naked eye, sound, and/or really good IR detection systems and so forth. So lets have details on Bonstock's AD. Apparently he has mostly Patriots right? These are radar guided (their own onboard radar). They won't get them. Other stealth aircraft like fighters such as the Mig MAPO or the Raptor might get hit depending on the Radar's design. I seriously doubt the effectiveness of these stealth fighters. Their design has to be stealthy yet still speedy which means compromises are made. Stealth like that on the Rafale is not very good and, to estimate, it could probably be knocked out by any country using something other than aging former Soviet Union equipment. Its funny. Why do I care so much about all this?

IC:
Our forces are still being organised. The government of Hole Where Evil Lives is hoping that this will be a war of attrition so that we can get our forces in action before its over.

OOC:
I can't help it. All these storefronts on NationStates look inferior to me. Blast! Oh well at least I'll have a real good one when its done.

Yeah stealth is good stuff. Patriots certainly aren't going to pick up my F-19s and F-24s that's for sure and neither will the SA-10s and SA-12s. Normal radar won't detect them and neither will IR, they run colder than the outside air through major gas dilution techniques.

Hell unless he has some sort of anti-stealth system he won't know they are there until the bombs hit and by that time they're long gone.

ooc: Target my airports, will you?

ic: The bombs do serious damage to Maropian Airports, all abandoned. JAS 39 Gripens have flown away, all dispersed onto highways, sheltered by the thick forests. Bonstocknian Patriot batteries claim many missiles, and Gripens intercept the Layerteb planes. They were not normal Gripens, but a high altitude plane designed to intercept targets up to 105,000 feet. And stealth was no problem for them. 160 Gripens intercepted, and got locks on their targets. They fired their missiles, and then dove down.

ooc: oh wait, removed? Scratch some things...

Still what about the cruise missiles fired?

Unless you got soem sort of viable anti-stealth system then those F-19s and F-24s are virtually unseen. They have a radar signature 1/1000th that of the F-117.
OOC:
That might be bullshit too.

Bonstock could just track them by their radars. Boom.

Not really. The F/A-22 is significantly stealthier than the F-117 and the B-2.

IC:

[Secret] Message to all allies:
Next targets of priority are bridges, tunnels, railroads, and remaining airports. Begin blockading Maropian coast with the ships 500 nautical miles offshore, board and sieze any blockade runners. The ships should also be used to deplete land attack cruise missile stockpiles.
-Aleksandr Krutov, Minister of War

DT's bomber force, after refueling and being reloaded with AS-19 Koala's, has completed the second wave of strikes against Maropian Coast. 150 AS-19's were fired at remaining airports, the other 600 at bridges, tunnels, and railroad depots. Since each missile has 2 warheads capable of hitting targets 100km apart, these should do some damage.

Unless you got soem sort of viable anti-stealth system then those F-19s and F-24s are virtually unseen. They have a radar signature 1/1000th that of the F-117.
OOC:
That might be bullshit too.

Bonstock could just track them by their radars. Boom.

Not really. The F/A-22 is significantly stealthier than the F-117 and the B-2.
Nono, if its radar is turned on, it is not stealth at all. Passive radar is wonderful...

ooc: The US can have stealth because no one else does, so no one else knows the RCS of their planes. They're classified. On NS, I own stealth planes like the B-2, F-117, and F-22. But they're useless, because everyone knows their RCS. And I have gone to the trouble of preprogramming the exact RCS of every combat aircraft in existance into my targeting computers, so you're stealth is screwed.

Cruise missiles hit. The bombs were intercepted, and taken out. I dispersed my Gripens. Your turn.

*Secret IC to DT*

Naval forces in position all around the Maropian coast, bombardment set to commence in t-minus 2 min 45 sec**




**The Maropian Coast**

The 15 Iowa class battleships open up on the southern most coast line. At the same time 320 Tomahawk cruise milles are luanched from various ships. As well, 3 carriers launch 50 F-18's each, carrying 8 500lb LGM's. The planes begin dropping these bombs on local powerplants and infastructure buildings.

(the total number of bombs falling is 1200 500lb LGM's)

OOC:
Ardor, damn it, 500 nautical miles offshore, not bombarding the coast!

Aboard RBS Volvgrad, a Trimaran hulled aircraft carrier, 105 high altitude Gripens go up to intercept the DT bombers before they can launch their missiles.

Then Bonstocknian bombers take off. The new Microphone bombers are used, with 80 flying against the combined enemy fleet. They fly at Mach 10, and some 150,000 feet AGL. They get within range, and drop 40 JDAMs each on the fleet below, aiming mostly for carriers and large combat vessels. Some targets, mostly carriers, overlap with multiple bombs.

JAS 39s of the Flygsvapnet rise to intercept the Ardor fighters.

Two Challenger class submarines position themselves between the carrier and Dark Terror.

Aboard RBS Volvgrad, a Trimaran hulled aircraft carrier, high altitude 105 Gripens go up to intercept the DT bombers before they can launch their missiles.

Then Bonstocknian bombers take off. The new Microphone bombers are used, with 80 flying against the combined enemy fleet. They fly at Mach 10, and some 150,000 feet AGL. They get within range, and drop 40 JDAMs each on the fleet below, aiming mostly for carriers and large combat vessels. Some targets, mostly carriers, overlap with multiple bombs.
OOC:
Intercept my bombers, over ardorian airspace, 4000km away? Brilliant.

IC:
MiG-37's are quickly scrambled to meet the Gripens, theyre RCS' have been kept secret as htey have never been exported, but when you see a ball bearing doing mach 4 you start to get suspicious.

They open fire on the incoming gripens with 140nm ranged AA-13 'Arrow" AAM's.

OOC: if the bomber attack was on me ok

IC: AS the Bonstockian bombers came into radar veiw, alerts went off all over the fleet. Sams were luanched and Pheonix gun system cam online and began hitting as many of these bombers as possible. On the damage side from the bombs, 1 Kirov was sunk, 3 KIDD were crippled and 4 Nimitz were injured, but were still able to proceed with "Normal operations".

The Gripens dive away, but quickly their computers find locks on the Dark Terror fighters, because nothing like it has ever been seen. The RCS is classified "New Figher" and sent back to Bonstock. Then the Gripens manuever to fire back. Six fighters go down from the first strike.

The bombers had only dropped their first load of bobms, 20 each. Then they turn around for a second pass. One of them flys low, and gets shot out of the sky. The others fly higher, almost out of the atmoshpere. Luckily their bombs are designed to not blow up in the atmosphere.

They drop the rest of their bombs.

The Gripens dive away, but quickly their computers find locks on the Dark Terror fighters, because nothing like it has ever been seen. The RCS is classified "New Figher" and sent back to Bonstock. Then the Gripens manuever to fire back. Six fighters go down from the first strike.
At this point, the MiG's turn away at mach 4, after each firing 6 AA-13's at the Gripens, and depleting their weapon bays.

The bombers temporarily turn back towards DT.
OOC:
Ardor, post your SAM's opening fire on his fighters, too.

Onboard the Ardorian carriers, around 320 F-22's are luanched and begin attacking the bonstockian fighters in the air.

OOC:
JDAM's against ships? Useless, jdam's are GPS guided, and ships change position.

**Ardor**

Missle site began firing cruise missles, similar to ICBM's(but not). Some 3,000 SA-196(carries a 600lb charge) luanched at Maropian forces and infustructure sites.


**THe Maropian coast**

Some 40 ASM's are luanched at the bonstockian carrier.

The Gripens fire their missiles at the Dark Terror fighters. Going at Mach 6, these missiles should intercept the fighters.

They dive down and return to the carrier. Two more are shot down while doing so.

OOC:
JDAM's against ships? Useless, jdam's are GPS guided, and ships change position.

thats why he didnt hit that many.

The Gripens fire their missiles at the Dark Terror fighters. Going at Mach 6, these missiles should intercept the fighters.

They dive down and return to the carrier. Two more are shot down while doing so.
OOC: range of the missiles?

Nice to see we both like the idea of Scramjet AAM's.
IC:
The MiG-37's climb to their max. altitudes, 110,000 feet, and begin flying away at mach 4 [damages once you post range]

The F-22's fire their 2 each of AIM-120's at the gripens.

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400 Gripens intercept the F-22s. Being of an updated version of the Gripen, they easily out manuever the F-22s, and get radar locks. Still, 16 are shot down.

CIWS guns try to destroy all of the ASMs. The 6 AEGIS trimiran cruiser escorts manage to shoot them all down. The carrier turns away at 45 knots with its escort.

ooc: range= 2,000 km

ic: The bombs are guided by continuously updated control stations in Bonstock, who update the target every second. The bombs continue falling to earth.

Meanwhile, the Gripens strike back, firing 3 missiles apeice at their locked targets. 17 of the Gripens go down.

OOC:
Gripens might outmanuiever the F-22, but dogfights are obsolete, he just needs to use BVR missiles.

IC:
DT is sending its 18 Theater Air Missile Defense Ships (TAMDS) to join the Ardorian fleet, that should shut the bonstockian airforce up. They will be escorted by land based ASW patrol aircraft and LUN anti shipping ekranoplanes.

* 120 more ASM's are luanched at the carrier as well as 20 more for each of the escorts.(these ASM's travel at mach 4 at water level).*
OOC: when did you luanch those other 400 gripens.

OOC: i have fired these from around 189nm, so no dogfights here.

IC: The F-22's fire their ramaining AIM-120 at the 400 gripens(well over 1,000 missles).

CIWS guns continue firing at the missiles, this time without as much sucees. Though none of them hit the escorts, 2 missiles hit the carrier. It is damaged, and slowed down considerably, to about 30 knots.

The Gripens lock their missiles and conitnue firing.

Meanwhile, the submarines ambush the DT ships headed for the combat zone, firing 16 guided high explosive torpedoes each.

The Gripens of the carrier launch themselves to attack DT's airplanes, knowing that they may be on a suicide mission.

OOC:
2,000km range AAM's?!?!

Well, then theyre huge, and your fighters probably can only carry one.
IC:
Most of the MiG-37's easily outmaneuver the hulking monsters, but 6 are lost.

OOC:
2,000km range AAM's?!?!

Well, then theyre huge, and your fighters probably can only carry one.
IC:
Most of the MiG-37's easily outmaneuver the hulking monsters, but 6 are lost.

ooc: compressed fuel, nanotech...

ic: The Bonstocknian bombers take off for another round, this time with 30 missiles. They are designed to out manuever CIWS and anti-missile defence with preprogrammed maneuvers.

OOC:
NANAOTECH?!

Damn it, I definitely ignore far future tech...

THe Aleigh burke ships luanch 600 RIM-116, at the Gripens. (practically every ship in the fleet is firing.)

250 F-23's begin arriving from mainland Ardor, and are stil out of range.

OOC:
NANAOTECH?!

Damn it, I definitely ignore far future tech...

ooc: They've researched nanotech already. Its all a matter of funding... remember dominant IT industry, frightening economy based mostly on IT, 1.2 billion souls to work...

OOC:
NANAOTECH?!

Damn it, I definitely ignore far future tech...

ooc: They've researched nanotech already. Its all a matter of funding... remember dominant IT industry, frightening economy based mostly on IT, 1.2 billion souls to work...
OOC:
Something resembling a remotely credible source? :roll:

Damage from the last bombing runs goes as follows, a fuel ship was hit and is now burning,thus cuasing a large IR target for incoming missles. And 4 Oliver Perry's were hit, nothing sank.

Long range missiles are fired at the Ardor fighters. Meanwhile, 26 more unssuspecting Gripens are shot down. Their pilots die gloriously for the motherland.

Some of the pilots, knowing they will go down, aim their planes to crash into Ardor and Dark Terror ships, especially carriers. If kamikazes were effective in WWII, then jet fuel would work even better...

Mainland based missiles aim at the Ardor oiler, and ships surrounding it. 40 are fired.

OOC:
NANAOTECH?!

Damn it, I definitely ignore far future tech...

ooc: They've researched nanotech already. Its all a matter of funding... remember dominant IT industry, frightening economy based mostly on IT, 1.2 billion souls to work...
Wrong budy, they have not perfected nanotech, they have yet to create a nonotube, the basis of all nanotech. I believe the carbon keeps becoming unstable.

OOC:
NANAOTECH?!

Damn it, I definitely ignore far future tech...

ooc: They've researched nanotech already. Its all a matter of funding... remember dominant IT industry, frightening economy based mostly on IT, 1.2 billion souls to work...
Wrong budy, they have not perfected nanotech, they have yet to create a nonotube, the basis of all nanotech. I believe the carbon keeps becoming unstable.

I'm better then the US, and I've put lots of funding into this.

OOC:
Anything tying to smash into my TAMDS would die very quickly, as they have have 8 Kashtan-M systems, which each have 12 30mmm barrels firing at 12,000 rpm per system. Oh, and they have 8 ready-to-fire SA-N-11 missiles each.

Apart from that, each TAMDS has hundreds of other SAMs.

OOC:
NANAOTECH?!

Damn it, I definitely ignore far future tech...

ooc: They've researched nanotech already. Its all a matter of funding... remember dominant IT industry, frightening economy based mostly on IT, 1.2 billion souls to work...
Wrong budy, they have not perfected nanotech, they have yet to create a nonotube, the basis of all nanotech. I believe the carbon keeps becoming unstable.

I'm better then the US, and I've put lots of funding into this.
So? The MBT-70 is a classic example of an expensive failure. Congrads, you wasted a bunch of money.

OOC:
NANAOTECH?!

Damn it, I definitely ignore far future tech...

ooc: They've researched nanotech already. Its all a matter of funding... remember dominant IT industry, frightening economy based mostly on IT, 1.2 billion souls to work...
Wrong budy, they have not perfected nanotech, they have yet to create a nonotube, the basis of all nanotech. I believe the carbon keeps becoming unstable.

I'm better then the US, and I've put lots of funding into this.
So? The MBT-70 is a classic example of an expensive failure. Congrads, you wasted a bunch of money.

How do you know? And the MBT-70 failed mostly because the two nations creating it would not cooperate. This is all one nation, with millions of scientists working on it.

Mainland based missiles aim at the Ardor oiler, and ships surrounding it. 40 are fired.

Seeing this as an opportunity to test one of our new weapons, the ardorian ships fire a new weapon, in which, 4 large missles luanch carrying a razor sharp titanium netting which captures about 28 of the inbound missles and causes them to crash into each other. 2 missle hit the already burning oilier and sink it, the rest, as seeing the lack of guidance for satalite jamming of radar had just came online.

And seeing the radar tracks from these mainland sites, ardorian ships luanch some 7 Modified Tomahawk missles at each(travel at mach 3.2)

OOC:
NANAOTECH?!

Damn it, I definitely ignore far future tech...

ooc: They've researched nanotech already. Its all a matter of funding... remember dominant IT industry, frightening economy based mostly on IT, 1.2 billion souls to work...
Wrong budy, they have not perfected nanotech, they have yet to create a nonotube, the basis of all nanotech. I believe the carbon keeps becoming unstable.

I'm better then the US, and I've put lots of funding into this.
So? The MBT-70 is a classic example of an expensive failure. Congrads, you wasted a bunch of money.

How do you know? And the MBT-70 failed mostly because the two nations creating it would not cooperate. This is all one nation, with millions of scientists working on it.
The AH-56 Cheyenne attack helicopter was an expensive waste doen by the US because it was largely ahead of its time.

Bonstocknian bombers come in for one last ditch effort. 200 of them fly in, each carrying EMP bombs set to explode at sea level. They fly at top speed and top altitude to the fleet, and let loose 40 EMPs each, carpetting the Ardor/Dark terror fleet with EMPs.

OOC:
NANAOTECH?!

Damn it, I definitely ignore far future tech...

ooc: They've researched nanotech already. Its all a matter of funding... remember dominant IT industry, frightening economy based mostly on IT, 1.2 billion souls to work...
Wrong budy, they have not perfected nanotech, they have yet to create a nonotube, the basis of all nanotech. I believe the carbon keeps becoming unstable.

I'm better then the US, and I've put lots of funding into this.
So? The MBT-70 is a classic example of an expensive failure. Congrads, you wasted a bunch of money.

How do you know? And the MBT-70 failed mostly because the two nations creating it would not cooperate. This is all one nation, with millions of scientists working on it.
The AH-56 Cheyenne attack helicopter was an expensive waste doen by the US because it was largely ahead of its time.

A little more funding, some more workers, and it would work.

Now stop argueing. This is RP.

Bonstocknian bombers come in for one last ditch effort. 200 of them fly in, each carrying EMP bombs set to explode at sea level. They fly at top speed and top altitude to the fleet, and let loose 40 EMPs each, carpetting the Ardor/Dark terror fleet with EMPs.

Well, srry, but my ships have been EMP proofed, but 4 AH-60"pavehawks" were taken down as not being emp proofed.


AS the bombers swooped over ,the gun system's began firing and some 240 RIM-116 at them.

Bonstocknian bombers come in for one last ditch effort. 200 of them fly in, each carrying EMP bombs set to explode at sea level. They fly at top speed and top altitude to the fleet, and let loose 40 EMPs each, carpetting the Ardor/Dark terror fleet with EMPs.

Well, srry, but my ships have been EMP proofed, but 4 AH-60"pavehawks" were taken down as not being emp proofed.

ooc: I'm sorry, EMP proofed? How does that work? It destroys everything electronic, including closed circuit. There was a fear that collateral damage would be caused by destroying closed circuit Pacemakers. There is no "EMP proof," unless you can give me an article or something.

Too bad you're all on at once. I feel like I'm not going to be able to follow this in the morning. What is RCS (a few pages back when we were talking about stealth)?

Well, srry, but my ships have been EMP proofed, but 4 AH-60"pavehawks" were taken down as not being emp proofed.That would be VERY expensive. "Fabricating with GaAs components is prohibitively expensive, and very hard to do, due to some properties the material lacks that silicone has (no natural oxide formation, neccesary for insulation layers between metal runners)." (http://liun.hektik.org/hightech/herf/Electronics.htm)
Too bad you're all on at once. I feel like I'm not going to be able to follow this in the morning. What is RCS (a few pages back when we were talking about stealth)?Radar Cross Section
OOC: Bonstock, TG

Too bad you're all on at once. I feel like I'm not going to be able to follow this in the morning. What is RCS (a few pages back when we were talking about stealth)?

RCS= Radar cross section

Bonstocknian bombers come in for one last ditch effort. 200 of them fly in, each carrying EMP bombs set to explode at sea level. They fly at top speed and top altitude to the fleet, and let loose 40 EMPs each, carpetting the Ardor/Dark terror fleet with EMPs.

Well, srry, but my ships have been EMP proofed, but 4 AH-60"pavehawks" were taken down as not being emp proofed.

ooc: I'm sorry, EMP proofed? How does that work? It destroys everything electronic, including closed circuit. There was a fear that collateral damage would be caused by destroying closed circuit Pacemakers. There is no "EMP proof," unless you can give me an article or something.

The US has EMP proof tanks, and it is basically shielding all wires from outside interfirence and it IS real, more real then your nanotech missles.



OOC: well if emp proofing is impossible, then how about those mach 10 bombers that can carry 40 each of a bomb that is definatly larger than a 19 in television.

IC: 5 ALiegh burke destroyers were disables as the onboard computers crashed (only 1 is permanently disabled), 1 nimitz was permanatly disabled, 5 Kirovs were temproarily disabled, as well 6 KIDD destroyers. AS if your bombers are swooping in, were they affected?

Bonstocknian bombers come in for one last ditch effort. 200 of them fly in, each carrying EMP bombs set to explode at sea level. They fly at top speed and top altitude to the fleet, and let loose 40 EMPs each, carpetting the Ardor/Dark terror fleet with EMPs.

Well, srry, but my ships have been EMP proofed, but 4 AH-60"pavehawks" were taken down as not being emp proofed.

ooc: I'm sorry, EMP proofed? How does that work? It destroys everything electronic, including closed circuit. There was a fear that collateral damage would be caused by destroying closed circuit Pacemakers. There is no "EMP proof," unless you can give me an article or something.

The US has EMP proof tanks, and it is basically shielding all wires from outside interfirence and it IS real, more real then your nanotech missles.

Perhaps long range EMP proof, but as Nianacio said, short range would kill anything, even "EMP proof."

Remember I carpetted your fleet with this stuff. 40 for every 200 bombers, so 8000 EMPs, all overlapping at once.

Congrats, your fleet has been immobilized!

Also, if those bombs hit the water, which alot did, i'm about 70% sure the affects are pretty much nulified. If anyone has some info about this, please tell, cuase as you can tell, i dont know a whole crap load about emps.

Also, if those bombs hit the water, which alot did, i'm about 70% sure the affects are pretty much nulified. If anyone has some info about this, please tell, cuase as you can tell, i dont know a whole crap load about emps.

ooc: Since water conducts electricity, I'd assume EMPs would cause alot of damage...

ic: While "swooping in" 34 bombers fell out of the sky. They did as their fighter brothers did, and aimed at whatever Ardor and DT ships were still present.

ooc: by the way, for comparison, these things carry much more then a B-1. B-1 holds 24 JDAMs, so I assume my bombers have 40.

I could revise it down. 30 each. But still...

MACH 10!!! WTF? I thought this was modern tech not future tech.

MACH 10!!! WTF? I thought this was modern tech not future tech.

2012 level, I assume.

2012 is future. 2008 is abotu the limit of modern.

ooc: by the way, for comparison, these things carry much more then a B-1. B-1 holds 24 JDAMs, so I assume my bombers have 40.

I could revise it down. 30 each. But still...
24 GBU-34 or GBU-35
84 GBU-38

Unless you got soem sort of viable anti-stealth system then those F-19s and F-24s are virtually unseen. They have a radar signature 1/1000th that of the F-117.
OOC:
That might be bullshit too.

Bonstock could just track them by their radars. Boom.

Not really. The F/A-22 is significantly stealthier than the F-117 and the B-2.
Nono, if its radar is turned on, it is not stealth at all. Passive radar is wonderful...

Of course but if you're in stealth mode you don't use radar that's just dumb.

ooc: by the way, for comparison, these things carry much more then a B-1. B-1 holds 24 JDAMs, so I assume my bombers have 40.

I could revise it down. 30 each. But still...
24 GBU-34 or GBU-35
84 GBU-38

ooc: Thank you.

I'm going to bed now. PAUSE!

Also, if those bombs hit the water, which alot did, i'm about 70% sure the affects are pretty much nulified. If anyone has some info about this, please tell, cuase as you can tell, i dont know a whole crap load about emps.

ooc: Since water conducts electricity, I'd assume EMPs would cause alot of damage...

ic: While "swooping in" 34 bombers fell out of the sky. They did as their fighter brothers did, and aimed at whatever Ardor and DT ships were still present.

OOC: well as i know, EMP bombs arent jsut electricity bombs, but i might add some more disabled ships, But i would kinda like to know how you shot down all but 2 of around 140-300 ASM traveling at mach 3.2.


Total casualties in the fight, so far:

6 Nimitz class carriers(only 2 permanently sunk or disabled)
7 Kirov cruisers disables(perm.)
13 KIDD destroyers(only 4 permanently,all others temp.)
4 Aleigh Burke disabled
2 Viginia class subs disabled and sinking into the depths
42x F-18's returning formtheir bombing runs
1 Ticonderoga (temp disabled)

What Bonstockian ships or whatever are here?

What Bonstockian ships or whatever are here?

I'd like to know that as well, since he has never posted the numbers and the types of ships, jsut that they are doing stuff, like magically shooting down mach 3.2 sea skimming ASM missles and only letting 2 through out of something like 250+.

I 60 ships with 650 launch tubes each, tell me where they are and bye bye ships.

I 60 ships with 650 launch tubes each, tell me where they are and bye bye ships.

Hell well i only luanched them at his carrier, whihc i appearently quite close to my forces but i'm not sure what other ships there are there.

Well, guys, off to bed, and if i'm not here much tomorro, DT, you can control my forces. If i'm not here by 12 pm EST then dt controls my forces.

ooc: I'm sorry, EMP proofed? How does that work? It destroys everything electronic, including closed circuit. There was a fear that collateral damage would be caused by destroying closed circuit Pacemakers. There is no "EMP proof," unless you can give me an article or something.

Air Force One has EMP shielding. So yes it exists. EC-135s also have it.

My ships have been pulled to 750 miles off shore while we figure out wtf is going on here and what the hell is up with the tech levels and schtuff!

*Secret *

The CSA landed on the flight deck of the Howl Class Carrier. A flight deck controller opened the passenger door, stepped back and saluted.

Admiral and Commander of the Wolfish Defense Command stepped off the plane and returned the salute.

“Take me to the C&C.” he said in a voice as rough as the sea.

“Aye Sir.”

As the Admiral stepped into the Command Centre the yeoman called out – “Admiral on Deck.”

The room froze.

Admiral Hadley didn’t go to sea for no good reason – yet here he was in the middle of the ocean, in the middle of the night, arriving without fanfare.

“Yeoman – get me a cup of tea and your Captain.”

“Aye Sir.” The Yeoman turned, glad to be out of the way.

Walking over to the navigators map table and peering through the dim red-tinted light – the Admiral light his pipe.

“Son – if we needed to get the fleet between Bonstock and Taiwan – what is the best fleet – keeping in mind we’ll need the transports and supply ships with us when we get there?”

“Ummm – Sorry Sir – It would take us about 6 days to get in position.”

“And how long before our Arsenal Ships were in range of enemy targets?”

“That depends Admiral Sir…Whose the enemy.”

“Dark Terror son. Dark Terror.”

The young navigator blanched.

Later that evening – after consulting with the Captain of the Volans and the other BattleGroup commanders – the Admiral ordered the ships to come about and make best speed into harms way….

Secret

Karbine Combined Command Centre

"Corpsman!"
Blanchette started in his seat then recovered quickly, "Sir?"
"You will send this flash, most secret, now. Transmission begins as follows: To Wolfish Defense Command, Hadley: Eyes Only.
Message received. Karbine at force readiness level three, will proceed posthaste to level five and await further your direction. Good hunting, signed Wilson. You get all that, corpsman?"

"Yes sir" Blanchette responded promptly as turned to his safe to retrieve the daily encrytpion key verification disc. Moments later, he began typing. As Wilson headed for the door, a nervous cough from Blanchette broke the stillness of the tapping keys. In a tremulous voice Blanchette queried "Sir, are we going to war?"

"Not yet, son, but perhaps soon" The door hissed quietly closed as Blanchette resumed typing.

..::Super-Encrypted Message(40,960Kb)::..

To: Wolfish Defense Command
From: Emporer Alex Larsen
Subject: Dark Terror

We have recieved your message and we are anxious to help, but I'm afraid that help won't be all that it could be. We have committed an entire fleet to another action and unfortunately we are still rebuilding our military. We can most definately commit our bombers, recon aircraft, our Force Recon regiments, and if you gain Air Superiority we will paradrop at least one, if not two Airborne Divisions.

Bonstocknian High Command

"Admiral von Steuben, your fleet has not been active. Where is it?"

"Generalfeldmarschall Adolphus, my fleets have been headed to the combat zone, with all six of our arsenal ships. They are under heavy escort from our Ste. Evremonde class destroyers, 36 in all. But I must gain complete air superiority to be effective. I would like to commend the effective use of EMPs by General Lung."

With a slightly embarrassed look, Lung replied, "No, the Flygsvapnet has been very brave in the face of a much superior enemy. I commend all the pilots of the Flygsvapnet. They are the true heroes."

"Now, anyway," intervened Adolphus, "We must launch another EMP strike. This time, Lung, I want you to strike the Dark Terror anti-air ships. Make your bombers fly at maximum height, and detonate the EMPs at 50,000 feet. That would devastate the Dark Terror ships."

"Yes, sir. But for this, I will only send 8 bombers. It will be enough."

"Good. Commit the rest of your bombers to more EMPs. Von Stueben can finish them off when our fleet arrives. Now, General Li, have you prepared the defenses of Maropian Coast?"

"They are up to what they were during the civil war, if not better. Missile traps, coastal rangers, pill boxes, and anti-tank mines litter Maropian beaches once more. We will halt the enemy at the waters edge, before they get a beachhead. But hopefully, the Flygsvapnet and Navy can finish the fleet before we must do that."

An intelligence officer entered the room. "Sirs, sattelite reconnaissence has detirmined that the Layarteb fleet has pulled back to 750 miles away from Maropian Coast."

"Lung," said Adolphus, "Get as many Flygsvapnet planes as possible to surprise them with EMPs."

"Yes, sir."

Meanwhile, 8 more Microphone bombers take off. Hopeing that their small numbers would make them unnoticed, they fly at Mach 10 and at an altitude of 150,000 feet. They drop their EMPs right over the Dark Terror ships, finding missiles headed towards them. The EMPs go off at 50,000 feet, as planned.

The Flygsvapnet got its orders. 160 Microphone aircraft refueled and rearmed. Then they took off. 80 of them headed for Layarteb's fleet, dropping EMPs which detonated at 40,000 feet. The rest did the same to Ardor's fleet. Since they flew at the edge of space, at Mach 10, there was little opposition.

OOC
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OOC:
BONSTOCK, YOUR BOMBERS WOULDVE BEEN BLOWN TO PIECES BEFORE DROPPING THEIR EMPS, ESPECIALLY SINCE THERES ONLY 8 OF THEM, ALSO SINCE MY SHIPS ARE ONLY 30 NM OFFSHORE, THE GROUND BASED INTERCEPTORS AND SAMS WOULDVE DESTROYED THEM.

I have 400km ranged SAMs called SA-20's for these typees of things. Well actually, I upgraded them. Rated against targets moving mach 20, an ABM, but good against hypersonic bombers, too.

IC:
DT's fleet of bombers is launching the last 300 stockpiled AS-19's against what should be the last surviving airports in Maropian Coast.

OOC: Tag

IC: All forces are brought to DEFCON 3

Statement from the Islandian Government

Seeing how Dark Terror and its erstwhile allies have decided to dismember Bonstock piecemeal, all of Asia stands firm in case they decide to try and imperialize us.

Statement from the Islandian Government

Seeing how Dark Terror and its erstwhile allies have decided to dismember Bonstock piecemeal, all of Asia stands firm in case they decide to try and imperialize us.
We assure you that we have no plans of invading Asia, and that we will respect all territorial boundaries and national waters during this operation.

The 60 Johnistani Kearsarge destroyers move into attack range and fire 100 HyStrike Mach 8 missiles at Bonstockian ports, factories, and other military targets around Bonstock. The Kearsarge destroyers have cruisers and frigates conducting ASW and AA patrols around them and 10 Squadrons of MiG-58s are circling the strike fleet. There are also 30 subs conducting security operations. Merchant ships with frigate and cruiser escort are sailing with more missiles to reload.

OOC: The Hystrike missiles are GPS guided with radar backup. The sheer force of the missiles hitting would be enough to take out a city block, couple that with the explosive, you have a big ass explosion. 6000 of those are on the way.

Quotes that I think will answer some questions:
The formation of the ElectroMagnetic Pulse is formed by the very intense, short gamma rays that are emitted. These gamma rays collide with electrons in the air molecules, and eject the electrons at high energies through a process called Compton Scattering. These energetic electrons in turn knock other electrons loose, and create a cascade effect that produces some 30,000 electrons for every original gamma ray.
The effect of these fields on electronics is often difficult to predict. Massive electrical currents are generated in wires, antennas, and metal objects (like tanks, missiles, airplanes and building frames). Electrical grids would be exposed to voltage surges than are incredibly more powerful than lightning, and over a vastly wider area. Computer chips which are sensitive to even small voltage surges would be fried instantly.
Military equipment is designed to be resistant (not impervious) to EMP, but realistic tests are difficult to conduct and EMP protection rests on attention to detail. Minor changes in design, incorrect maintenance procedures, poorly fitting parts, loose debris, moisture, and ordinary dirt can cause elaborate EMP protections to be totally circumvented.
(I added the bold.)
Off-topic (but on the topic of EMP and stuff, and I don't want to bring OOC attention to this by creating a new thread about it) and very secret IC: The military of Nianacio is working on HERF guns to to zap incoming missiles.

Large EMP bombs are difficult to make are they not?

Large EMP bombs are difficult to make are they not?an EMP bomb is not easy to construct (like a nuclear bomb)

Taking the call from the allied nation of Wolfish, Nankin pledges full military support to our fellow allies and are prepared to defend Bonstock. The combined 4th, 5th, and 6th Fleets have already been assembled and are shipping out to Bonstock, ETA 2 hours.

[I need some OOC info, like where the battle is occurring, where other forces are, etc.]

My fleet and my forces are inactive while all this OOC and nonsense sorts out. EMP shielding, Mach 10 bombers, etc.

Da, darling

The TAMDS ships should be linking up with the Ardorian fleet right about now.

Lets get to invading Maropian Coast!

Alright, DT is sending its amphibious forces to join the Ardorian fleet, they will be escorted by long ranged gorund based aircraft.

-16 Piotr Hotamel class LPD's
-3 Ivan Rogov landing ships
-5 Alexander Nevsky landing ships
-10 Zubr air cushioned landing boats
-19 Ropucha landing ships
-8 Alligator landing ships

ooc: Nankin check TG.

ic:

Just before sunset, 60 747-400ER Missile Delivery Platforms lifted off from a southern Wolfish Airforce Base, heading towards the Maropian Coast. On board each - 80 Scorpian Mach 6 Cruise missiles. Among these flying missile bases – 120 IceBlade Fighters and four tankers.

The wings of each fighter were loaded with various air-to-air missiles (these include: Sidewinder, 8km range; Sparrow, 45km range; and AMRAAM, 50km range).

The mission plan called for the 747-400ERs, tankers and fighter escorts to fly at 40,000 feet, till they passed into the controlled airspace of Battle Group 4 – 700 kilometres west of the Dark Terror / Ardorian fleets.

As the aerial convoy crossed into the airspace of the Battle Group, mission papers and targeting information were opened. Each of the missiles had been preprogrammed before the 747 missile delivery platforms left the ground.

The convoy was met by an additional 60 Hellbringer Fighters - launched from the carriers, as they split up and began to line up their shots.

“Command Lead, this is flight control – all planes are on target, requesting permission to launch.

“Affirmative – flight control – weapons free.”

“Confirmed – weapons free.”

With that, massive bomb bay doors opened on the modified passenger planes, as the rotary launcher began dispensing its destructive cargo.

In less than 15 minutes, and never closer than 700 km to the enemy fleets – each of the planes launches 80 Scorpion Cruise Missiles for a total of 4,800 missiles.

Missiles fired include:

· 2,000 with MRLT (multiple rocket launched torpedo warheads) [Background: the MRLT warhead opens its cover within 20 km of the target(s) and dispenses six mini torpedos which separate and lock onto targets before hitting the water]
· 2,000 conventional penetrator anti-ship warheads
· 800 anti-ship mine laying missiles which were aimed for the area between the fleet and the cost line.

[Multiple missiles are sent to each target – so the total targets would be less than the total missiles, but the percentage of targets hit successfully would be higher.]

Once the planes had emptied their payloads, they turned and followed their course back to Wolfish.

OOC:
Hate to party crash, but the radar arrays on the TAMDS' have a disturbing tendency to detect incoming bombers at the range of 2500km (the RL Antey-2500 system is an example of such radars...)

OOC:
Hate to party crash, but the radar arrays on the TAMDS' have a disturbing tendency to detect incoming bombers at the range of 2500km (the RL Antey-2500 system is an example of such radars...)

ooc: That's fine. So you know they are coming - if you like you can engage the bombers overtop of my naval task force. Up to you.

In Johnistan ground forces are being put aboard cargo ships and are setting sail towards Bonstock.

Black Sands SAB
Scandavian States
0130 Local

Black Sands Strategic Air Base was buzzing with activity, although no one would no it unless they were there and wearing NVGs. One wing of B-7 Gremlins was taxiing one squadron at a time while the other Wing was being loaded with Fasthawk ALCMs. A Lieutenant Colonel was in the lead aircraft and the one to call to the tower, "Control, this is Fuzzy requesting permission to take off."

"Roger that, Fuzzy, your Wing is cleared to take off."

"You hear 'em boys, let's go give those overgrown cows a meteor shower."

The bombers used their standard scrambling technique, taking off in diamond formations of four to get clear as fast as possible and on the way to their target. They met up with tankers a few times in before they reached their launch point. At 1400 miles Fuzzy called out, "In firing envelope, let 'em rip."

It took ten seconds, one missile every half second, for the seventy-two bombers to launch one thousand four hundred and fourty missiles. The missiles themselves were programmed to follow a ballistic trajectory, climbing from 75,000 feet all the way to the upper atmosphere before they started falling almost on top of the combined DT/Ardorian fleet, the ramjet forcing air through the missile and accelorating it to Mach 12. It was then that the active radar took over for the telemetric guidance and started targeting the ships below.

OOC: DT, I did the math and while you probably did see the 767s, a simple detection wouldn't have stopped the launch. As for myself, the B-7s are stealth and launched just inside your detection range, so there was almost no chance you saw anything but the missiles.

OOC:
If we know theyre coming 2500km out, we tell the Ardorians, they scramble fighters, you crash tumbling down.

Scandavian States- I think stealth is bullshit, for which reason I added on some other systems: Millimeter band radar, laser radar, passive radar, electronic emissions tracker. Oh, and if a stealth plane flies directly at the radar, it can be detected very easily.

???

OOC:
Also, between my TAMDS ships, there's a total of 1296 SA-N-13 Grounder SAMs. Theyre perfect for intercepting tactical missiles, and any other hypersonic high altitude hogwash. Theyre based on the S-400, however they naturally have some more modern radars guiding them, and oh yeah theyre multi stage SAMs (near the end of the flight, the main weapon breaks away from the "booster", which allows it to engage small or agile targets).

OOC: Look, I don't give a damn what your ships can do, just RP your losses, because the fact is my missiles outnumber yours and even if your missiles have a 100% interception rate you still missed over 200 missiles. As for my bombers, they would be long gone before your intercepters even got to where they launched and you'd have to go over the Wolfish task force to get to that point and if you really want to push the issue, my bombers have Phoenix-style AAMs for defense. In short, let's stop the OOC pissing contest and actually RP.

OOC: Look, I don't give a damn what your ships can do, just RP your losses, because the fact is my missiles outnumber yours and even if your missiles have a 100% interception rate you still missed over 200 missiles. As for my bombers, they would be long gone before your intercepters even got to where they launched and you'd have to go over the Wolfish task force to get to that point and if you really want to push the issue, my bombers have Phoenix-style AAMs for defense. In short, let's stop the OOC pissing contest and actually RP.

OOC: Look, I don't give a damn what your ships can do, just RP your losses, because the fact is my missiles outnumber yours and even if your missiles have a 100% interception rate you still missed over 200 missiles. As for my bombers, they would be long gone before your intercepters even got to where they launched and you'd have to go over the Wolfish task force to get to that point and if you really want to push the issue, my bombers have Phoenix-style AAMs for defense. In short, let's stop the OOC pissing contest and actually RP.
OOC:
What the Grounders dont shoot down, the Aster 30's will. Plus, theres the rest of the fleets SAM's.

Oh, and mach 12 with a ramjet seems a bit like bullshit, when SCRAMJET missiles only go mach 6.5.

Deap under the capital building in The Newer England, the president and his advisors link up in an emergancy meeting:

"So, the Wolfish government has asked for our support. Recommendations?"

"Well Mr President, to me it is a cut and dry situation." Foregn advisor Marshal speeks up. "We have only limited relations with the Wolfish government. This is a large military situation and we should net get involved!"

"Thats Bullshit John." The Army General yells out. "You liberal ass holes don't know what basic friendship is. We help them now, they may help us out in the future. It's obvious who is going to win this war and we need some browny points whenever we can get them!"

"I agree Mr President. We have very limited foregn relations and anything we can do to make friends would help. Not to mintion the fact that the government of Dark Terror is one that needs to be kept in check. We can sell this to the people, we just have to do it."

"OK," the president speeks up. "Lets talk about the lagistics of this one. Get us some coffee, we are going to be here for a while."

As the people of The Newer England head off to bed, children are tucked in and adults lay down to rest away the day. The people are unawair that their government debate getting the nation into a serious conflict. The debate will drag on into the night as the president hears all sides of the argument and debats the situation in his own head.

All the military knows is that they are on hightend alert. It could be a drill. It could be world war 3. They hope to find out soon...

Deap under the capital building in The Newer England, the president and his advisors link up in an emergancy meeting:

"So, the Wolfish government has asked for our support. Recommendations?"

"Well Mr President, to me it is a cut and dry situation." Foregn advisor Marshal speeks up. "We have only limited relations with the Wolfish government. This is a large military situation and we should net get involved!"

"Thats Bullshit John." The Army General yells out. "You liberal ass holes don't know what basic friendship is. We help them now, they may help us out in the future. It's obvious who is going to win this war and we need some browny points whenever we can get them!"

"I agree Mr President. We have very limited foregn relations and anything we can do to make friends would help. Not to mintion the fact that the government of Dark Terror is one that needs to be kept in check. We can sell this to the people, we just have to do it."

"OK," the president speeks up. "Lets talk about the lagistics of this one. Get us some coffee, we are going to be here for a while."

As the people of The Newer England head off to bed, children are tucked in and adults lay down to rest away the day. The people are unawair that their government debate getting the nation into a serious conflict. The debate will drag on into the night as the president hears all sides of the argument and debats the situation in his own head.

All the military knows is that they are on hightend alert. It could be a drill. It could be world war 3. They hope to find out soon...

[OOC:

Can I get sides really quick and a brief summary?

Hey bonstock!
]

*In high pitched Arab accent*

What are you talking about? Dark Terror would never do something like that?

*In a low pitched Texas accent*

If I says he does, well, he did. He has too many nucular weapons, which he would give to the terrorists without thought for his own people. Besides, I need an excuse to go to war because Iraq is getting my opinion polls down.

[OOC: Ahahaha!!!!!11!11!one!!11]

[OOC:

Can I get sides really quick and a brief summary?

Hey bonstock!
]
OOC:
Everyone on my side sends naval forces to attack Taiwan, Bonstock and Scandavian States send planes and some ships to attack them, Scandavian launched 1440 ASM's at the Bisonic/Ardorian group of ships, pissing match starts over losses.

I dont know about Ardors losses, but unless the missiles were aimed exclusively at the TAMDS' (which BTW probably shot down around 1100 with SA-N-13's alone), I think 2 sunk and 3 hit will be suffecient, as there would be literally tens of thousands of SAMs for the surviving ASM's to deal with.

Sides?

Sides?

"Bullies":
Me
Ardor
Layarteb
Hole Where Evil Lives
ohnistan

"Human Rights Freaks"
Bonstock
The Newer England (possibly)
Wolfish
Scandavian States

Gotcha.

Hmm.. Scandinavian States will put up a good fight I presume, wolfish will use his excelent story lines.. I must work up a plan. To the bat cave!

-No Pants, No E, Just TROUSRS

[OOC:

Can I get sides really quick and a brief summary?

Hey bonstock!
]

ooc: Well, after some flame, DT and I are settling an old war, where he killed lots of my citizens. How many forces can you send to defend me?

ic: Bonstocknian forces deploy to defend against the Johnistan missiles. Patriot batteries open up, but these aren't any ordinatry Patriots. They fly at Mach 10, and can intercept any known missile with ease. With thousands of sites ringing Port Yuko, the Johnistan missiles are easily destroyed.

Meanwhile, the Flygsvapnet strikes back. Four-hundred JAS 39s take to the air from hidden bases in Bonstock, hitting the Johnistan fleet with 6 anti-ship missiles apeice.

Then Bonstocknian Challenger subs sortie for their first combat test. Going at an incredible speed of 50 knots, they go around the Johnistan surface fleet, to intercept and destroy the cargo ships.

Meanwhile, the four hundred Bonstocknian Microphone bombers land at their bases, unhurt form their mission thatnks to high flying and high speeds. This time, they are loaded down with 30 JDAMs each for a strike on Dark Terror.

They take off, and fly at 200,000 feet, pushing even their incredible design. At Mach 10, they speed to the continent upon which DT is located.

[OOC:

Can I get sides really quick and a brief summary?

Hey bonstock!
]

ooc: Well, after some flame, DT and I are settling an old war, where he killed lots of my citizens. How many forces can you send to defend me?


Uh.. about that. :D

I haven't exactly chosen a side yet. DT approached me.

Alright...my Destroyers are reloaded and prepared to launch another 6000 round volley of HyStrike missiles along the Bonstockian coast as soon as he posts losses for the last one.

ooc: Missiles that look like Patriots, but are really far more advanced Mach 10 missiles; I have 4,000 "Patriot" sites ringing my capital, with four missiles each. Being reloaded constantly, most missile threats to my capital are neutralized.

And I haven't even started jamming...