NationStates Jolt Archive

As I am sure we are all aware, there are currently some rouge nations running around attacking so called "N00bs", or as less commonly known, November and December Nations. We, the small countries, have no way to protect ourselves- UNTIL NOW. Join in the Newcomers Alliance and stop the imperialistic tendencies of the warmongering "N00b" bashers. Any nations are welcome to join in this alliance, as age does not matter. But, the more newly formed nations that join, the better. Because remember, just because we're young doesn't mean we're defenseless.

Current budget- 13 trillion 6 million 500 thousand US dollars

Website for all info on this alliance- http://www.wolfserve.net/NewNations/news.php

I will join

Excellent. I welcome you to this alliance.

Doujin can fend for itself.

http://www.angelfire.com/ar3/doujin/logo (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=100828)

Count Lindasia in.

We choose to not engage in full-scale warfare, only send smaller amounts of troops to assist in world peace. I'm not nearly ready or think I ever will be up for a RP War....so problem solved :)

Count Hudecia into this alliance.

But what are our responsibilities? Should we create (or join) a particular region? Sorry for asking a lot of questions but I am new at this.

I will put in a 5 trillion dollar donation for protection of this alliance. Live long!

My nation prepaired to offier any computer support we can. Our "war games" are not just for play...

If this new alliance wants it, Falastur will offer their leaning weight. We are not very militaristic, so we will avoid war at all costs, but having a nation with 780million people with you can often deter people....

However, we do not want to force ourselves upon you. Our joining is subject to your approval....

Nonchalia pledges it's forces to the defense of the Newcomers Alliance.
However, we reserve the right to withdraw our support if this alliance takes hostile action other than in self-defense.

Doujin- Are you really that safe?
Lindasia- Excellent. Welcome aboard
The Zoogie People- Are you sure? Someone could conceivably attack you.
Hudecia- Welcome. At this point, there are no plans to change regions. This is merely a mutual defense pact between somewhat weak, starting- out nations and any older nations that wish to ally and support us.
The Anti-Terror Army- Thank you. Your help will always be remembered.
The TechnoGeeks- Are you joining this alliance? The offer is very kind, but I am a bit confused as to wether or not you are part of the alliance or just offering help.

Please allow me to claim, that I am a member of this alliance.

*Donates a million USD to the cause*

The Federation of Worrban asks to join this Newcomers Alliance.

Samtonia, shall I invite all your alliance into my safe region? It's a peace and protected region. Please join the region Elite Ghosts Base 1

The Armed Republic of Lotus-7 is completely capable to take care of itself- and does not need your alliance.... :twisted:

However- i think you have a just cause for its creation- and we shall donate 5 million sympathy dollars to you to buy some infantry weapons... good luck..


*money wired*

BRILLIANT! The People's Republic of Russu wishes to join this alliance. We suggest that we combing our military forces, or if that is too radical, perhaps we could create a defence force of the Alliance. :D

Perhaps we could also create our own region?

Perhaps it would be wise, instead of creating a combined armed forces, a military alliance would be more practical with joint training exercises.

Also, keeping us in separate regions could prove to be a valuable asset.

I suppose somebody COULD attack me...but well the point is, I don't really like to RP and don't really know how to RP a full scale war...and don't really have time to commit to learn it...;) So I'm trying my best not to make any enemies while warning anyone who attacks me that they'll be in for a (in all probability) terrible RP ;)

Falastur- Welcome
Nonchalia- I understand fully. Welcome
Anti-Terror- That is fine. Welcome. Oh, and any nations may move to Elite Ghosts Base 1. I will not at this time, as I just relocated and would like to see what my new region is like. However, if I ever become dissatisfied, I will join you without a moment's hesitation
Yettesip- Thank you
Worrban- Welcome
Lotus7- Thank you.

Doujin can fend for itself.

http://www.angelfire.com/ar3/doujin/logo (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=100828)

As can Neo-Wu

Nonchalia would prefer to keep its military as a seperate entity at this time, although we welcome the concept of joint training exercises, and offer the use of our Desert Combat Facility to any Alliance forces for training purposes.

Russu- Welcome. I feel that joining our forces into one is not a good idea at this time. However, good thinking. But at this point, we are a mutual defense pact.
Hudecia- Good thinking. All right everyone, don't change your locations too quickly. Let's let the stampede to join settle down a bit.

Oh its not like we dont want to ally you guys dont get that idea...the more allies the better ;) it's just I have my own region, me and a friend, I'd like to stay in my own isolated part of the world lol. Like your concept though.

Perhaps we could compile a list of the members of our alliance and send it to all members. This way we know who our allies are.

Hey can I start buying weapons for the alliance or should I wait?

I will fund the weapons. I will fund everything for the Alliance.

New nation right here. Not sure if a Pop. of 5 million is considered big or not. So joining this group may be a good idea. Count me in if you'd have me.

Nonchalia- Welcome. Don't worry, this is a mutual defense pact. We're not going to combine our armies.
The Zoogie People- You don't have to move. What this alliance entails is mutual protection ie: if we are attacked, you send troops to help and vice-versa.
Hudecia- Excellent Idea. If you do this, you become vice-president of this alliance's governing council.
Worrban- Wait a bit. That way we can figure out who needs weapons the most and what they need.
For all- If you want to buy things for the alliance after we have discussed it, we currently have 11 trillion, 6 million in U.S dollars for purchases. But remember, run it by the others before you use it.

Consortiumism- That is small. And even if it weren't, you could still join. Welcome.
Anti- Terror- That is so nice of you, O treasurer of the inner council of the Newcomers Alliance(You are promoted)

The Theocracy of Desnaria sends its blessings to the newly formed alliance, but declines to join since it does not share in its religious views. However, if support is needed, Desnaria is willing to help.

Desnaria- Thank you for the offer. However, what are your religious views? I am confused as to the meaning of your statement (As in, we never mentioned religion anywhere in this thread)

Anti- Terror- That is so nice of you, O treasurer of the inner council of the Newcomers Alliance(You are promoted)

We are happy about this job.

In detication of this newborn job, I donate an additional 10 trillion dollars.

Ok... here is the list of nations who have currently joined this alliance. If you are not on this list I apologize and please tell me.

Samtonia
Consortiumism
The Anti-Terror Army
Worrban
Hudecia
Nonchalia
Russu
Falastur
Lotus7
Yettesip
Lindasia
Falastur

Status to be determined:
The TechnoGeeks *
Desnaria **

* are the TechnoGeeks part of this alliance or not?
** blessing received from Desnaria

How about all the countries strongpoints? Main one for this country is started with is arms dealing.

--High Cleric of Desnaria enters in a barely lit cement bunker, his men carrying a cheap camcorder, the only he could afford--

*Cough*
A question has come up of our religious views. Our people see themselves as teachers, seperate from the outside world. None of us are true warriors, so we do not condone military either offensive or defensive. As our great Desnarian God said, "Bletzelyow Vingle."

We do however see the need for a coalition of younger nation states, being one ourself. If you need help in the future to mediate a dispute, or require the help of our poor, but devout nation; do not be afraid to ask. We are sorry for not making our position clear before. In the Desnarian Gods name, Lotukuku.

Welcome, Oh Seceratary to the Inner Council of the Newcomer's Alliance- Hudecia

OOC- Changed your position to Seceratary, as that is the duties you are doing.

May I also be Defense Minister for now?

Consortiumism - Mine are in this order:
Uranium Mining

New Izumi would gladly join your alliance. Our speciaty is science and tech.

President Tsukasa
New Izumi

We gratefully accept this position. We hope we can be of future assistance to the alliance.

New Izumi- Welcome.

Oh, just so you all know, I will begin to write up the constitution of our alliance tonight. It will be finished by morning on Dec 27 at the very latest.
Once it is posted, if anyone would like to create a wbsite for our member list and constitution, I and the whole Alliance would be eternally greatful.

Thank you for our acceptance. Please call on us anytime if we can be of assistance.

President Tsukasa
New Izumi

FROM NOW ON.

All of the nations in this alliance recieves 30,000 Peacekeeping troops, 1 carrier, 3 destroyers, and 300,000 ATA-Tank16s*.


*ATA quality.

OOC: I can possibly work on a site, but I will not have time until after the new year

Anti-terror- Don't send them to all countries, it would be a logistical nightmare. Just keep them in your country as a rapid reaction force. This is official policy of the Newcomer's Alliance.

Also, The Zoogie People is a member as we were talking in another forum, so add him to the list!

New Izumi- If no one else takes the job, you've got it. But, in order to encourage competition, anyone who takes on the challenge will be promoted to Vice- President upon completion.

Got it. Alliance extends welcome to new members New Izumi and The Zoogie People.

Anyone need Cheese that what Worrban can give. Oh yeah Warrbon would like to give two K-AF1 fighter plane as a good will gift.

I'm in too, if I am still welcome :) .

OOC: fair enough - I just don't have the time to work on it right away between christmas and 2 other paying client's website on to of maintaining 2 of my own websites, lol.

The Most Serene Republic of Nonchalia respectfully declines the ATA's offer of peace-keeping troops. Our own police and armed forces are more than capable of keeping the peace in our country.

Rivendell- Welcome
New Izumi- Are you a professional website designer? If you are, ignore my earlier comment, because a good website is much better than a fast one.

OOC: I will record all the new members of the alliance however I am logging off. I will return to this forum tomorrow and read the rest.

OOC: Not professional, more of a hobby for me that makes some money, lol. Maybe something along the lines of what I have done with one of my personal websites will do - extremeanime.net. The backend is premade code, but simple enough. Anyway, have a look and maybe see what we can do if your interested.

Hudecia- That's fine. Talk to you(hopefully) tomorrow. I will also log off at this time, so no decisions are to be made until tomorrow morning. Anything important, telegraph me. Also, any new nations that apply are in unless otherwise told tomorrow by me. Goodnight All!
New Izumi- Wow! Professional looking. You have the job unless someone can show me a better site- Not likely. Congrats, oh to be named vice- president.

Official communication to the Leader of the Samtonian people

The Sybaritian people commend you on the speed with which you have begun this alliance. We ourselves have been working on a similar alliance but sought to set the initial draught of the ‘guidelines’ for prospective members prior to announcing its formation. Our Foreign Secretary will contact the governments of those who had expressed an interest and direct them to these talks.

We ourselves will await the formal announcement of the constitution before joining as we would prefer to know exactly what we would be agreeing to.

You may (if you wish) take the name we had chosen for this organization... The Alliance for International Defence [AID]

Charles Phalanx – Defence Secretary – Sybaritia
*Wanders off smoking a large, sweet smelling hand rolled cigarette with a slight hint of citrus to it*

This may help your alliance members a bit

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=106925&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Why need an alliance? There isn't even a need to defend yourself so long as you follow the rules of play set here for the past several months. I worked my way up the ladder on my own, I have about an eleven billion dollar trade surplus from arms sales/buying (according to my trade sheet, as of right now after all goods bought and sold are factored in, I'm left with $11,390,589,000 Surplus.)

Longevity is attainable through learning and understanding. Every nation can be self sufficient.

Remember : "Give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day, teach him to hunt, he'll eat for a lifetime."

I pledge full support to this cause.

Please be sure to let Hudecia (Secretary) and Samtonia (Founder) know.

OOC: I don't know when they will be on, so maybe telegram them. Also, I'm going away today so I will be off and on as I have the chance through the holidays. My mom only has stupid 56k >.<! Also, for hosting of The New Nations website, I think I can safely use the same server (paid) without costing me anymore - it's the same server http://www.extremeanime.net is on - as long as bandwidth usage isn't used in excess (and by excess, I mean like 400+ users daily), so I can do that for you guys no prob.

Back IC: I'm sure you will be accepted into this alliance with no difficulties.

New Izumi

The Greater Yellow Spot Empire acknowledges your hand of friendship, and wishes to ally themselves with any nation friendly to the regions of Nasicournia, Enormous Arse and Outer Annarkia (which is looking for anarchist recruits, please contact one of our nation states).

King Flubbert III of the Kingdom of the Big Yellow Spot

Prince Jibbert, Lord Protector of the Colony of the Lesser Yellow Spot

Lord Clobbert the Lazy, Big Cheese of the Free Land of the Rising Yellow Spot

Why need an alliance? There isn't even a need to defend yourself so long as you follow the rules of play set here for the past several months. I worked my way up the ladder on my own, I have about an eleven billion dollar trade surplus from arms sales/buying (according to my trade sheet, as of right now after all goods bought and sold are factored in, I'm left with $11,390,589,000 Surplus.)

Longevity is attainable through learning and understanding. Every nation can be self sufficient.

Remember : "Give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day, teach him to hunt, he'll eat for a lifetime."

Yes, that is partially true, but also, I have found that there is many nations out there that like to prey on us smaller, newer nations. I think it is important for their to be such an alliance: many nations will not stay after a time, but there will always be a new income of smaller nations that will need assistance and protection.

President Tsukasa
The Peoples Republic of New Izumi

The Greater Yellow Spot Empire acknowledges your hand of friendship, and wishes to ally themselves with any nation friendly to the regions of Nasicournia, Enormous Arse and Outer Annarkia (which is looking for anarchist recruits, please contact one of our nation states).

King Flubbert III of the Kingdom of the Big Yellow Spot

Prince Jibbert, Lord Protector of the Colony of the Lesser Yellow Spot

Lord Clobbert the Lazy, Big Cheese of the Free Land of the Rising Yellow Spot

I am unfamiliar with the regions - what are their general platform? I also advise you to contact Hudecia (Secretary) and Samtonia (Founder) via telegram to let them know of your interest.

President Tsukasa
New Izumi

What sort of tomfoolery is this?

Why don't you just stay hidden for a few weeks, until you are big enough to deter unwanted attention.

While I was a 'n00b', I got into 'trouble' quite a few times- but it was all my own doings. In the last few months, I haven't been in any danger at all.

Instead of pretending that 'bullies will be nuked', 'you better watch out', why don't you just calm down a little, eh?

Jesus.

#1 I think we are all calm here

#2 An Alliance is good to help us learn all the ropes

#3 Your Bigger than most of Us

Finally, It's quite obvious most of us are much more active than you in the community. I only joined a few days ago and have a higher post count...

So Please, lay off.

EDIT: Oh yes...as for staying hidden...not a chance.

Why don't you just stay hidden for a few weeks, until you are big enough to deter unwanted attention.

Because that restricts you from doing any decent RP as a nation.....

Hello all, I'm back.
Sybaritia- Well, you can wait if you want. But basically, all this is is a mutual defense pact between all of us.
CommieBoi- Thank you, but it seems that you want to take anything that our nations develop to defend ourselves and use them ourself. So, if you are offering inclusion into your alliance, I must respectfully decline.
THe Dead PPL- That is nice of you. Are you joining the alliance or not? Just wondering.
Big yellow spot- Welcome to the alliance.
Har Land- See what New Izumi wrote. That is my reply.
Kholint- I'm not even going to dignify that with a response. Actually, I am. 1. We never mentioned nukes. We are smart enough to realize that new nations would not have the resources to get nukes. (Although from your post it is clear that you aren't)
2. We are calm. We're not running around declaring war on everyone because we now have alliances. We are merely ready to defend ourselves now.
Also, I suggest that you do not bash the"n00bs" as it is clear that a great fraction of the people in this alliance are more active than you and therefore can call YOU the "n00b"
Jesus yourself.

Not only will this alliance provide support for weaker new nations but it will also provide us important future allies as well.

It is providing all member nations with the ability to communicate with other new nations who are facing similar problems and challenges and get answers quickly.

If you are not interested in joining, you dont have to, many new nations have existed and grown without such an alliance. However, I do guarantee you that all new nations have probably made allies. (and enemies)

President Tablus
Secretary of the New Nations Alliance

*donates 2 trillion USD*
*also Joins*

Hm... I don't suppose you guys could edit the first post so it includes the list of your member nations, that way people could recognise your support.

Good idea Iuthia.
Welcome Vanguard Knights.

Here is the current list of the members of this alliance (coalition of the willing?)

New Nations Alliance (NNA) (?)

Samtonia (President)
New Izumi (Vice President)
The Anti-Terror Army (Treasurer)
Hudecia (Secretary)
Consortiumism
Worrban
Nonchalia
Russu
Falastur
Lotus7
Yettesip
Lindasia
Falastur
The Zoogie People
Rivendell-Lorien
The Dead PPL
Vanguard Knights

Status to be determined:
Sybaritia (developing similar alliance)
The TechnoGeeks (offered support - no confirmation)
Desnaria (blessed the alliance- but has not joined for religious reasons)

Here is the current list of the members of this alliance (coalition of the willing?)

New Nations Alliance (NNA) (?)

Samtonia (President)
New Izumi (Vice President)
The Anti-Terror Army (Treasurer)
Hudecia (Secretary)
Consortiumism
Worrban
Nonchalia
Russu
Falastur
Lotus7
Yettesip
Lindasia
Falastur
The Zoogie People
Rivendell-Lorien
The Dead PPL
Vanguard Knights

Status to be determined:
Sybaritia (developing similar alliance)
The TechnoGeeks (offered support - no confirmation)
Desnaria (blessed the alliance- but has not joined for religious reasons)

Cool, add it to the first post of this thread, that'll help the first-time readers to see who we are.....

Oh, and don't forget, I am willing to lend large sums of money to this Alliance if needed.

My current budget/year:

$10,566,271,800,000

(Which has to be spent on other things as well, remember)

That is very nice of you Falastur. You are heareby(SP?) promoted to the glorious position of Vice-Treasurer to the Inner Council of The New Nations Alliance.

I will join the allegiance.

I also would like to make a half million dollar donation to the cause.
I'm sorry, I know it's not very much, but my nation is just recovering from a depression and our budget is stretched very tightly this year.

The Prime Minister of Eastern Newfoundland

Just a quick question. How do you determine your nation's budget? Is there a proper way or do we just guess at it?

Welcome Eastern Newfoundland. And your donation is appreciated.

Hehe, thanks Hudecia. If it serves to protect the newer nations of this world, then the cost is irrelevant....

The Armed Republic of Lotus-7 is completely capable to take care of itself
5 million
:lol: No need for explanation - stay here a while longer...

Thunderstraat would be more than willing to join this alliance, even though we are not very new, and are able to contribute quite a military force to the defense of those smaller than us.
Also, newer space nations please go to the New Galactic Alliance at Topic 100018. The Old GA was quite a force, and we may be able to build the New up to the same standard.

Why thank you Thunderstraat. Welcome.
Oh, Hudecia, in the stickified threads that help new people out, there is a table with the calculations. You'll need to look around the Nation States thread a bit I believe.

OOC: Well, it's a bit of both, I suppose.
There's a way to figure out how much money your nation has, just go here:
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=29122

I just said that my nation was recovering from a depression because my economy status just went down a bit.

I wish to join as an alliance trustee (in other words, i contribute to the budget, i think 10bn a year would help)

http://www.esyn.org/SOTA/NationStates.html

For all your budgeting needs.....

Thank you Petsburg.

Thanks a lot!

I will donate 10 billion USD to this organization/alliance. This is my Christmas present.

Thank you Sebytania.

OOC: I'm back - not leaving until later this afternoon so I thought I would pop back on - hope I didn't stir things up too much earlier, lol

I have done a little work on establishing a basic, starting website (I've been bored, lol). It's not much to look at and doesn't have a proper logo, but it has all the main features.

BTW, i was looking for a calcutator thing too earlier - that helps a ton.

Ack! Meant to post the link too! - http://www.wolfserve.net/NewNations

Thank you Petsburg.

Thats ok

BTW, i was looking for a calcutator thing too earlier - that helps a ton.

np, any time.....

And guys, if you want a forum for the site, I (or someone else) can make one for you. I tend to use invisionfree.com......

Nice New Izumi. Very Nice.

New Izumi.

I will try to send you an updated list of member nations on a regular basis.

Unfortunately the list will likely be out of date soon so I will keep my list up to date.

Thanks

New Izumi.

I will try to send you an updated list of member nations on a regular basis.

Unfortunately the list will likely be out of date soon so I will keep my list up to date.

What I can do is give you and Samtonia admin powers on the website and you can go in and change it urself. I can set that up right now if you want..

Sure New Izumi. I just signed up, so you can do it whenever to my account.

Don't forget me in the Staff bit :wink:

im in

Sorry, to put in an admin, I have to do everything from the backend admin. I had to delete ur account and recreate it. I will telegram you and Hudecia your password - change it right in ur settings when ur log in.

Don't forget me in the Staff bit :wink:

the staff page?

So that's why I can't log in. :idea:

lol, sorry about that. I sent out those telegrams just a moment ago.

Welcome Toiquewerivubat. And I'm on now. my password works. Thank's New Izumi.

No prob - just make sure you change it in Settings, lol.

Actually, just thought of something else...maybe someone should telegram all the member nations telling them the link and that they should join...

Kind of a big job right now but I think it's important.

OOC: I have to go now - If I do not speak with anyone until after the holidays, have a merry christmas.

OOC: I have to go now - If I do not speak with anyone until after the holidays, have a merry christmas.

Samtonia

Re:
Sybaritia- Well, you can wait if you want. But basically, all this is is a mutual defense pact between all of us.
and
Status to be determined:
Sybaritia (developing similar alliance)

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I understand that it's a mutual defence pact, and agree to join in principle. I just want to read the guidelines before signing on the dotted line.
I stated that we had been talking to other nations and had been working on a first draft of the guidelines for such an alliance before finding out about these talks. Also that we were directing those nations to whom we had been talking to this location. There's not a lot of point in setting up two of these things is there, as the point is to have defensive strength in numbers.

Walter Phemtch - Foreign Secretary - Sybaritia

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OOC: I'll read through the constitution when I get 5. :wink:

How many nations pop? are in your alliance? 500 Million, 1 Billion?

Sybaritia- I assume that you've made your way to our website, which has the constitution on it. If not, however, here it isThe NNA constitution

http://www.wolfserve.net/NewNations/news.php

Garrison II- Well, we currently have, I believe, 18 nations in the alliance. As for total population, go to the weebsite and find all the names of the countries and check their populations. I really can't give an exact number.

Hey, just announcing that I'm in this alliance though I see Samtonia already said it...;)

How many nations pop? are in your alliance? 500 Million, 1 Billion?

I don't know for certain, Garrison, but mine is 764 million or thereabouts....

How many nations pop? are in your alliance? 500 Million, 1 Billion?

To be honest, I find the idea quite novel... I mean, imagine if they got organised like thid thread suggests they will and then actually having some power in the sceme of things... the oppressed December nations raising up against the prejudice of those of use who are February nations... though personally I find nations from April-July can be a bit cocky at times...

Anyways, I will them look and hope they can get their members to follow good RP techniques so we can recognise them as an alliance.

How many nations are in it? I'm a tad worried about an alliance so large I can't keep track of who I'm allied with and who I'm not.

How many nations are in it? I'm a tad worried about an alliance so large I can't keep track of who I'm allied with and who I'm not.

Seventeen definate members. Three potential members of this alliance.

Ok, that's not a problem. Yet. :D

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Welcome Cottonisking.

Your name will be added to our list shortly. Until then feel free to browse our website.

www.wolfserve.net/NewNations

Irish-Germanic states would like to enter this alliance. We are relativly old compared to some of these nations that are already joined up, but My country finds it appalling when larger more populus countries attack nOObs just becuase they are new. My country can bring a strong military to the table along with an eloquent diplomatic corps (good rp skills) and as of december 25 a small nuclear arsenal something of which new nations would not have. It would probably be a smart thing to do to allow the Irish-Germanic states to join this allaince. But if not no one amongst my staff will be offended.
thank you and good day
Rex ceaser
Irish-Germanic party head.

The Irish-Germanic states would like to enter this alliance. We are relativly old compared to some of these nations that are already joined up, but My country finds it appalling when larger more populus countries attack nOObs just becuase they are new. My country can bring a strong military to the table along with an eloquent diplomatic corps (good rp skills) and as of december 25 a small nuclear arsenal something of which new nations would not have. It would probably be a smart thing to do to allow the Irish-Germanic states to join this allaince. But if not no one amongst my staff will be offended.
thank you and good day
Rex ceaser
Irish-Germanic party head.
http://www.geocities.com/kiloblack1/CIGS_Nationstates.html
(My country's punny website)

The Confederacy of Li Kam States is interested in joining your alliance. We can contribute small yet high-tech land, air and naval task forces to the alliance's cause. We understand that this is on a concept similar to the fictional NATO, that some countries talk about - an alliance mainly for the purpose of defence?

Ministry of Defence
The Confederacy of Li Kam States

Welcome to all new nations, and thanks for your interest in our Alliance. For the best from the New Nations Alliance, sign up at our website (its above there on someone else's post somewhere :wink: ).

The Republic of the Logarchy, de facto representative of the Region of the Logarchy, respectfully declines your invitation at present. We would find the present makeup of your region disharmonious with our ideals of rational government by the wisest, in accordance with Platonic ideals. We wish you all the best, and if we can spare any of our phalanxes or our fine provisions, we will gladly lend them to you in times of need.

Semper ubi sub ubi

Welcome to the Alliance. Your nation's names will be posted on the alliance website shortly. Until then feel free to visit it and read our alliance's constitution.

As set out in our previous discussions, the alliance is a mutual defence pact, like NATO, with independent armies but can act in a unified effort to defeat aggressors.

Thank you.

The Republic of the Logarchy, de facto representative of the Region of the Logarchy, respectfully declines your invitation at present. We would find the present makeup of your region disharmonious with our ideals of rational government by the wisest, in accordance with Platonic ideals. We wish you all the best, and if we can spare any of our phalanxes or our fine provisions, we will gladly lend them to you in times of need.

Semper ubi sub ubi

*shakes head*

So many n00bs, so many nukes, so little time...

*Hand hovers over big red button*

I'm in.

I've got a small, semi-advanced army for defense. My economy is only thriving, so economic support from me can't really be covered right now, sorry. Although certain things may appear contrary, I DO have multiple nuclear weapons should they be needed, and orbital weapons is also an affirmitive. I can add to defense, in case it's needed (not as much as Anti-terror, but hey).

Merry Christmas,
Czar Rekjyavich Ivan Andropov II
The Kingdom of Derscon

:D Hello everyone! i've been accepted into the allinace ! :D

I'm not a new nation. Quite developed actully. But my own region was attacked and conquered by "n00bs".
So i'm quite glad thiers some people plotting it's down fall!!

The Democratic Republic Of Dimmimar will join this alliance and will give it its full support.

I am annoyed at the imperialistic conquest of new nations by some older nations :tantrum:

Jouran Jell
Master Of Diplomacy

Sybaritia- I assume that you've made your way to our website, which has the constitution on it. If not, however, here it isThe NNA constitution

http://www.wolfserve.net/NewNations/news.php

Garrison II- Well, we currently have, I believe, 18 nations in the alliance. As for total population, go to the weebsite and find all the names of the countries and check their populations. I really can't give an exact number.

HEy, you forgot me as a trustee of the alliance

Welcome all new members. Don't forget to sign up at the website :)

And to the Logarchy. We would be glad to have you as part of our Alliance. However, if you would decline because of our ideals, then we will respect your wishes. Let's hope that some day soon you decide to join us.

Your invitation has been placed on our Foreign Affairs committee agenda and will be debated at their next meeting.

Thanks for the interest, OTTLAND. We hope you give this due consideration, and join our ranks at some point in the future.

Hmm, can I be the Minister of WMD?
I had quite a lot, untill I fought a war with some nations who I shall not name.

HRH's goverment has heard the call of this newcomers alience, Midlonia wishes to join this alience for economic and military benefit

ooc: oops sorry somehow it posted twice

Welcome Midlonia. Glad to have you with us.

Midlonia wishes to thank Falastur, HRH armed forces whises to seek advise on a military and economy reform a so called "5 year plan" has been devised, the details shall be released soon, in the meantime we wish for aid in the construction of a "Tank factory" we call upon our allys to aid use with material, in return we shall add M£5million to our alliences coffers

We will try and aid in any way possible. If you would like to register at our site, you can post your plan on the forums, and there our other members can reply to it.

Greetings!

HRH, Crown Prince Vinnie of the Fiefdom of the Wandering Cooks and the High Priest of the Colony of the Zen Brotherhood wish to join The New Nations Alliance. We are all that's left of the region of the Bean Consumers, formerly known as the region of Ass Food Heaven. We are small and relatively poor, but what little we have will enrich us all.

Thank You

Greetings to you, you Highness. The High Emperor of Falastur and its lands wishes you a welcome to our Alliance, and he sends his regards to you and your people.

I am not a new nation (I just don't post a lot on the forums), but I sympathize with your cause so I am donating 30 million USD to your alliance. Good luck to you all!

I am not joining the alliance, just donating funds.

Hello all, I'm back today. Well, I've been telegrammed by The Royal Air Force of Miliatary Enterprises who is another member in the alliance. Also, welcome all nations that have joined. Your names will be added to the list on the website shortly. Petsburg, what do you mean? Please clarify. Oh, and what did you all think of the constitution?

This alliance may just work.

Any NNA members in the UN? If so. Feel free to give me an endorsment. And/or send a telegram asking for one. Preferably "and".

Well...I was in the UN, but have noticed how incredibly dumb some of the issues getting voted for are ;) The UN body is too large, we should all be notified of the next proposal to be voted on in advance and discuss it vehemently on the forums for about a week first ;)

Do you think we should all condemn the use of WMD's for our alliance?

a.is this a special region
b.I have two countries, and one recently place an order for tons
of weapons, for police. I will gladly join, as both started yesterday.

Nope. It's just an alliance, not region-specific.

excellent :)

any newbies can move to my region, nation states rebel alliance. we are growing stronger and welcome newbies to the game. you can join us and grow strong with us

t-gram me if your interested

I, The Divine Leader of the people of the West Pacific, have founded a region for our Alliance, if you would like to join please contact me or a officer of the New Nation Alliance, only Alliance members may join. This region is password protected.

Bump

Samtonia
Sybaritia- I assume that you've made your way to our website, which has the constitution on it.

Yes, our Secretary of Communications had already found the info feed in question. Having read over it our governing council and Secretary for foreign affairs have raised the following points:

Our main queries relate to the fact that no mention as to the method of election of the Senate or number of Senators therein is made in the constitution. Also we find Article I, Section 8, Clause 2 to be excessive with relation to its presence in a mutual defence pact. Other queries relate to the vagueness of the timing of the release of reports and poor grammar. [OOC: Sorry but if my nation is going to sign something it at least wants it to have correct grammar :wink: ]

[IC]
In general… references to “the Union” should read “the Alliance”.

Details of these queries are as follows:

Article I.
Section 1.
All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a congress of the NNA, which shall consist of all non-leading members of the Alliance.

No definition of a ‘leading member of the Alliance’ exists in the constitution. Does this refer to the proposed Senate?


Section. 2.
Clause 2: Should read
Representatives shall be apportioned among the several Governments that may be included within this Union, with each government receiving one vote.

Instead of

Clause 2: Representatives shall be apportioned among the several Governments which may be included within this Union, with each government receiving one vote.



Section. 4.
Clause 1: The Senate shall be the Judge of the Elections, Returns and Qualifications of its own Members, and a Majority of each shall constitute a Quorum to do Business; but a smaller Number may adjourn from day to day, and may be authorized to compel the Attendance of absent Members, in such Manner, and under such Penalties as the Congress may provide.

No mention is made of the number of members of the Senate. The Congress, [member nations] with relation to the number required for a Quorum to do business should agree this value prior to the creation of said Senate.



Clause 3: The Senate shall keep a Journal of its Proceedings, and from time to time publish the same, excepting such Parts as may in their Judgment require Secrecy; and the Yeas and Nays of the Members of the Congress on any question shall, at the Desire of one fifth of those Present, be entered on the Journal.

We find ‘from time to time’ to be vague and would propose a defined time frame for the publishing of Proceedings. We believe the most accommodating timeframe for this would be a report produced to cover every half yearly or annual period, with a grace period of one month for situations of excessive political activity.



Section. 5.
Clause 2: Should read
Every Bill which shall have passed the Congress with at least a two thirds majority vote, shall, before it become a Law, be presented to the President of the NNA; If he approve he shall sign it, but if not he shall return it, with his Objections to the Congress in which it shall have originated, who shall enter the Objections at large on their Journal, and proceed to reconsider it. If after such Reconsideration two thirds of the Congress shall agree to pass the Bill, it shall become a Law. But in all such Cases yeas and Nays shall determine the Votes of the Congress, and the Names of the Persons voting for and against the Bill shall be entered on the Journal of each House respectively. If the President shall not return any Bill within a week after it shall have been presented to him, the Same shall be a Law, in like Manner as if he had signed it, unless the Congress by their Adjournment prevent its Return, in which Case it shall not be a Law.

Instead of

Every Bill which shall have passed the Congress with at least a two thirds majority vote, shall, before it become a Law, be presented to the President of the NNA; If he approve he shall sign it, but if not he shall return it, with his Objections to the Congress in which it shall have originated, who shall enter the Objections at large on their Journal, and proceed to reconsider it. If after such Reconsideration two thirds of the Congress shall agree to pass the Bill, it shall become a Law. But in all such Cases the Votes of the Congress shall be determined by yeas and Nays, and the Names of the Persons voting for and against the Bill shall be entered on the Journal of each House respectively. If any Bill shall not be returned by the President within a week after it shall have been presented to him, the Same shall be a Law, in like Manner as if he had signed it, unless the Congress by their Adjournment prevent its Return, in which Case it shall not be a Law.



Clause 3: Should read
Clause 3: Every Order, Resolution, or Vote to which the Concurrence of the Congress may be necessary (except on a question of Adjournment) shall be presented to the President of the NNA; and before the Same shall take Effect, shall be approved by him, or being disapproved by him, shall be re-passed by two thirds of the Congress, according to the Rules and Limitations prescribed in the Case of a Bill.

Instead of

Every Order, Resolution, or Vote to which the Concurrence of the Congress may be necessary (except on a question of Adjournment) shall be presented to the President of the NNA; and before the Same shall take Effect, shall be approved by him, or being disapproved by him, shall be repassed by two thirds of the Congress, according to the Rules and Limitations prescribed in the Case of a Bill.



Section. 6.
Clause 6: To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

Again… vague, with no inclination as to the length of time such exclusive rights may last for.



Section. 7.
Clause 3: No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law; and a regular Statement and Account of the Receipts
and Expenditures of all public Money shall be published from time to time.

Once again we find 'from time to time' to be vague and would request that this be presented as a set value, on either a quarterly or half yearly timetable



Section. 8.
Clause 2: No Member Nation shall, without the Consent of the Congress, lay any Imposts or Duties on Imports or Exports, except what may be absolutely necessary for executing it's inspection Laws: and the net Produce of all Duties and Imposts, laid by any Member Nation on Imports or Exports, shall be for the Use of the Treasury of the NNA; and all such Laws shall be subject to the Revision and Control of the Congress.

We find this to be excessive. Duties gained from nations that are not NNA members should be for the use of the Treasury of the nation levying said duties. This is a matter of national economics and has no place in a mutual defence pact.



Article. II.
Section. 2.
Clause 2: Should read Allied Nations in place of United States
He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Congress, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law: but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments.



Article. VI. Should read

Amendments to this Constitution, or, shall

The Congress, whenever two thirds of it shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, , shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by four-fifths of the Congress of the NNA Provided that no Member Nation, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Congress.


Given that these comments are addressed or explained to our satisfaction our nation [non-agressive in nature anyway] will be glad to add it's voice to the NNA, and will bring with it a vigorous diplomatic presence, as well as research into THEAL and non-lethal defence systems as well as a space program. We are a nation that balances its love of ecology with its curiosity for science and technology.

T. Funk Shabata - Consul - Sybaritia

Sybaritia- Thank you for proofing the Constitution. I was in a bit of a hurry you see when I wrote it,(had to leave for an NBA game with grandmother) so I really didn't have time to correct it. As for your issues with the Senate, those are supposed to read the Congress. Also, any member nation not specifically mentioned as a president, vice-president, seceratary, or treasurer are a non-leading member. And finally, to address the unclearness issues with some parts in regard to no set number- Well, the US Constitution is written that way and as I based mine off of it, go back in time and yell at those delegates! :D But seriously, once again, no time to correct. Thank you SOO much for the proofing and welcome to the alliance! I'll change all confusion related material by the first of Jan.
Squanker- GET OUT!!! DON'T POST THAT NONSENSE AGAIN!!! THIS THREAD IS FOR THE NNA, NOT YOUR PET ALLIANCE!!! DO IT AGAIN AND WE'LL GET ANGRY AT YOU AND YOUR ALLIANCE!!!!!!

Hmm, it seems like I have not been officially accepted. Do you not like what I (told you I) have to offer? Or what?

The Nations of Verboten Lufftewaffe & Black Luthien wish to join this alliance.....

Larinthia is interested in joining this Alliance as well, we are always looking allies.

Derscon- Sorry it took so long. Welcome to the alliance.
Verboten Lufftewaffe- Welcome(Why is your airforce forbidden? Just wondering.)
Black Luthien- Welcome
Larinthia- Welcome. Allies are always good to have.

All right everyone, in case you didn't know, here is the NNA's official website:http://www.wolfserve.net/NewNations/news.php
Remember, sign in as your country's name from Nation States.

Republic of Nistinummi is also interested in joining the Alliance.

// Defence minister
- Nistinummi Defence Forces (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2435124#2435124) -

Welcome Nitsinummi.

I, Alexander Fastolf, Chancellor of Fedelia, with the permission of the Emperor and the backing of the people, hereby commit the Fedelian Empire to this alliance.

Welcome to the Alliance Fedelia.

OOC: found a little time to pop online and see how things are going

I, The Divine Leader of the people of the West Pacific, have founded a region for our Alliance, if you would like to join please contact me or a officer of the New Nation Alliance, only Alliance members may join. This region is password protected.

Just moved to Aisa, after being invited there. And am the highest ranked out of that alliance. (33rd).

I appreciate your offer. But I'll stay where I am now...Consortium. :)

I have a region call "Land of Research and Economy"...If it doesn't work put in a the, and try it lower cased and upper-cased. I have a different country there, and I have started a powerful military

Another thing-I have a store with all supplies half price-it ends today though, so hurry and buy some stuff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!

I have a region call "Land of Research and Economy"...If it doesn't work put in a the, and try it lower cased and upper-cased. I have a different country there, and I have started a powerful military

Even better way. Just click your name, go to "view profile" and click on the link to your region from there. :wink:

Do any more new nations want to welcome the benefits and guarantees of our New Nations Alliance?

I will join once I figure out how.

Just say so :)

Welcome everyone!

All new members are rewarded a 20 billion dollar gift, from the New Nations Alliance.


Yours Truly,
ATA

Treasuer of the New Nation Alliance.

I will join once I figure out how.

Just ask to join, and our President will (pretty much) accept you. If you register at our website (further up this page) then you will have a much better access to our Alliance's resources, and you will be able to talk with other members more easily on the forums.

Welcome everyone!

All new members are rewarded a 20 billion dollar gift, from the New Nations Alliance.

*Reaches into wallet*

Ahh I see :oops:

I wish to join the New Nations Alliance.

Welcome to the Alliance. Go register at the website :D

The Empire of Corvida offers both its support and its membership. Included is the offer to NNA members of a region in which we can reside in mutual safety: Terra Excelsior. The name means, "earth ever upward" and refers to the direction we young and vigourous nations intend to go.

In addition, Corvida maintains a burgeoning arms manufacturing industry in the form of the Ravendyne Armament Corporation. Currently the only product available is the CV7 Rifle, but further products are currently in development.

Finally, upon acceptance into the New Nations Alliance, Corvida would offer its services in the roles of Defence, the Exterior, UN Ambassador, or something equally apropos.

Yours in alliance,


His Grace Lord Gage D. Curtis, Councillor of the Exterior

on behalf of

Her Imperial Majesty Autumn Jade,
By the Grace of the Elements Empress of Corvida,
Battlelady of the Realm,
Defender of the People,
Keeper of the Shining Sword,
High Seat of House Jade.

Ok, so am I in? I tried to 'change regions' but it said I needed a password for NNA?

Ok, so am I in? I tried to 'change regions' but it said I needed a password for NNA?

Ever heard of the password: NNA ?

WElcome Corvida.
Terrastralis, Ill Tg you the code to get in.

I, the Prime Minister of Terrastralis would like to formally apologise for my diplomat's stupidity, and I look forward to prosperous times in the NNA.

I am here to express my interesting in joining this alliance.

Welcome to the allaince Vecne.

Welcome all new members. It's great to see you all so keen to help us make this Alliance strong.

Any other joiners?

And btw Samtonia, if you look on the member list on the website, I am listed twice - once at the top as Staff, once lower down....

AA :oops: sorry about that Falastur!

I'll correct it immediately

The Dominion of Oregonea offers her support and applies for membership in the New Nation Alliance.

Oregonea is also located in the Region of Terra Excelsior, and there is plenty of room for growth.

As Oregonea is a newborn nationstate, it is asked that she be permitted a more passive role in the Alliance. When Oregonea is stronger and more prosperous, support will become more tangible.


Lord Darion Bel'Avis, Chancellor of Foreign Affairs

on behalf of

High Lady Tawny,
First of Oregonea
High Seat of House Pyretta

Welcome Oregonea.

Meramoso would greatly like to join in this empowering new Alliance.

Welcome Meramoso. Everyone, don't forget to register at our Alliance's Website, http://www.wolfserve.net/NewNations/news.php

Way ahead of you ;).

Ok, so am I in? I tried to 'change regions' but it said I needed a password for NNA?

. . .What region? None of my State Department workers informed me of a region.



C.R.I.A. II
The Kingdom of Derscon

Greetings from the Kingdom of Xeraph!

King Alaric of Xeraph wishes to formally extend a resolution to ally our regional alliance with that of NNA.
The Alliance of Regioni Militaria is comprised of the regions of Mercenary Lands, Rattlesnake Chili, Pork and Beans and Iguanaland. Total number of nations : 31, 3 in the UN.
Thank you for your consideration.

Respectfully,

King Alaric of Xeraph

YES! YES! YES! 31 NEW ALLIES!!!! WE ALL LOVE YOU!!!!!!

Ahem.. Welcome to you and all 30 of your fellow nations. If you want, all come register at our website.

AAAAhhh,oops dont mind me,just applying cream to a lower body rash that seems to be sweeping the nation, :oops: If at all possible and due to the problem of our armed forces been in quarantine, we would like to join your allience. Sergio Redrim, deputy president.

Do remember, although more people joining is good, if an alliance gets TOO big, you DO have to worry about fringe radical groups, although with this cause I see no reason for it. Mabye fringe groups trying to attack powerful countries, or something. You also have the problem that if too many POWERFUL countries joining the alliance (no offense to the powerful countries already joined, you're good people), you run the risk of the NNA turning into something like the EU, only THEY run the alliance like a nation, and treat the alliance like the mafia -- you quit, you die, etc. But, all you people are kind and thoughtful, but you never know if another one might pop up.


Czar Rekjyavich Ivan Andropov II
The Kingdom of Derscon

Oh, by the way, transmissions here will be made by my UnderSecretary of State, I have. . .other buisness to attend to. If it's urgent, like a war, telegram me, I'll respond. Yuri Ivanovich is my USoS, by the way.


Czar Rekjyavich Ivan Andropov II
The Kingdom of Derscon

Do remember, although more people joining is good, if an alliance gets TOO big, you DO have to worry about fringe radical groups, although with this cause I see no reason for it. Mabye fringe groups trying to attack powerful countries, or something. You also have the problem that if too many POWERFUL countries joining the alliance (no offense to the powerful countries already joined, you're good people), you run the risk of the NNA turning into something like the EU, only THEY run the alliance like a nation, and treat the alliance like the mafia -- you quit, you die, etc. But, all you people are kind and thoughtful, but you never know if another one might pop up.


Czar Rekjyavich Ivan Andropov II
The Kingdom of Derscon

You are completly correct: and within the alliance, the action I am currently preposing, directly as the the Head SysAdmin to the website (OOC) and as the VP to the NNA, is to appoint an "Enforcer" to my Admin team to work on rooting out the fringe nations (the ppl not abiding my website and NNA protocol). Also, everyhting through the alliance is to be done though a vote on the Congressional Floor and put to vote (all, with the occational exception of OOC WebAdmin things, as geneally they need to be quite often dealt with quickly as I can tell you from past experinces). As for "powerful" nations taking over in a sence, that will not happen as no matter size, everyone gets an equal say - bullying it not tolerated AT ALL. Please be sure to read the NNA Constitution for clairification at http://www.wolfserve.net/NewNations I hope I have clarified things a little better.

President Tsukasa
New Izumi

VP and Head SysAdmin to the NNA
UN Delegate for the New Nation Alliance Region.

Due to an extreme disagreement with the constitution, The Kingdom of Derscon hereby withdraws itself from the New Nations Alliance.

Yuri Ivanovich
Minister of Foriegn Affairs
The Kingdom of Derscon

Falastur would like to ask Derscon what it is they find at fault in the Constitution, and points out that the NNA is still in its early phase. The Constitution can be changed if a fault is found in it.

Due to the entire setup of the constitution, the NNA is a government, not an alliance, With the setup of the constitution, the Kingdom of Derscon and other members would no longer have their national identity, it would be the country of NNA. The NNA can levy taxes? Declare war? Control trade? THis is not an alliance, this is like the USSR. Tecnically, they were all seperate countries, but really, they were ALL the Soviet Union. No. The Czar shunned the United Nations to avoid this "international government." The Czar wishes to run his own country WITHOUT INTERNATIONAL INTERFERENCE. He wants WMD's (and has lots, too), he WANTS to join any alliance he wishes, he WANTS to conduct his foreign policy how HE wants to do it, not an international assembly. Do you not see this????

Yuri Ivanovich
Minister of Foreign Affairs
The Kingdom of Derscon

Yes, I see this. I also see that the Czar has the power to petition the changing of all of those rules, and I have to say, on at least two counts I ould follow you. However, if you choose to go your seperate way, there is nothing I will do to stop you.

Do any other countries wish to join our Alliance. We promise, it is not as faulted as it seems...

All right, why are you taking shots at my Constituition without inviting me? :evil:
But really, I don't see why you have to leave. I based the Constitution on both the NATO alliance(because it's , well, NATO, sorta like our alliance)
and the US constitution(For its organization and longevity)
So, naturally, the NNA constitution will have elements of both. First, both documents have a clearly defined hierarchyof a president, vice-president, etc. So, the document may appear that it's creating a new government hierarchy, but it's just following NATO's example to keep order and sped in important matters in the alliance.

Quote-The NNA can levy taxes? Declare war? Control trade?-
Umm, yes, the whole point of the NNA is to declare war on enemies. However, war takes numerous guises, such as embargos. Thus, the trade. And, the NNA needs money to survive. Thus, a system of taxes totalling a certain amount of money from each nation.

Quote-THis is not an alliance, this is like the USSR. Tecnically, they were all seperate countries, but really, they were ALL the Soviet Union.-
Really? You flatter us. But really, the USSR? They bear no comparing. For one thing, they had no free elections. And, they had military police that could arrest people for no reason. And- No, that's it. I'm listening to "The Ultimate Gilbert & Sullivan" on CD, so I don't want my serenity to be ruined. But really, the USSR? Fine, than I'm Nikita Khruschev. :lol:

Quote-He wants WMD's -
WEll, as of this point he can have them. A vote is currently up to give control to the NNA as a whole, but it hasn't been decided yet.

Quote-he WANTS to join any alliance he wishes, he WANTS to conduct his foreign policy how HE wants to do it, not an international assembly-
Well, any alliance? What if you join alliances that go against the NNA? Than you are the enemy of yourself and must declare war on yourself from both alliances, leading to all those nations helping you destroy yourself. Makes perfect sense. Wait, that doesn't make sense, does it?

Quote-he WANTS to conduct his foreign policy how HE wants to do it, not an international assembly-
WEll, last time I checked he still can. There's no law that says you can't make your own foreign policy. But, important decisions, such as war that involves the whole alliance, must be voted on. So, you still have your own foreign policy.

As you can all see folks, this argument has no basis or reason to it. I mean, the USSR?!?
That one statement says ignore him completely. But, if you have any arguments to my replies which clearly prove your intellectual inefficiancy null and void, pray tell us the"outstanding" logic behind your replies. :lol: :lol: :lol:

I did not mean "USSR" as meaning the Communist Socialist government, I meant the organization of the states. Sorry if that analogy confused you.

The Republic of Northrop-Grumman wishes to join the alliance.

Do note, though, that just because The Kingdom of Derscon is withdrawing itself, it will not stop supporting this alliance.

Yuri Ivanovich
Minister of Foreign Affairs
The Kingdom of Derscon

Now this is what I'm talkin about! Count me in. Even though I'm probably bigger than all of y'all, I can be the 'powerhouse'. Plus just ask me for all of your mobile suit/starfighter needs.

The KTC (Kwaswhakistanni Terrorist Control) will assist in any terrorist incidents in your country. We are comprised of 3 nations and have many anti-terror units and weapons, along with aircraft and naval units.

The Democratic Republic of Khmers registered for the "alliance". Its a federation actually, we all follow the same constitution as a treaty of different states.

Welcome to all new alliance members!

Greetings from Xeraph!


We noticed an announcement regarding a coup in Samtonia. Has the govt been stabilised and how, if at all, will the coup/new rulers change things.
The NNA is a good and growing entity. We would hate to have to withdraw our regions/nations from it if unstable.


Respectfully,


Alaric, Kingof Xeraph, Ambassador of Alliance Regioni Militaria

out of curiousity, what can this alliance do if a situation came to light, say that Melkor and GDODAD decided action? They have been known to crush noobies.....

Phyrric Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2003 1:52 am Post subject:

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out of curiousity, what can this alliance do if a situation came to light, say that Melkor and GDODAD decided action? They have been known to crush noobies.....


This alliance is allowing members of GDODAD to join. Ironically, Derscon warned us of this.

Derscon Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 8:13 pm Post subject:

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Do remember, although more people joining is good, if an alliance gets TOO big, you DO have to worry about fringe radical groups


I am posting this to make the members of the New Nations Alliance aware of who is joining.

Derscon is located in the region of The Concert of High Lords. It is under the protection of GDODAD. The so called guidance of the Grief family has recntly destroyed the Hutu nation. This is why Derscon could not join the alliance. It's foreign policy is already decided within the context of of GDODAD.

The Concert of High Lords is a region of right-wing dictatorships and monarchies, all under the protection and guidance of the Greif family, and therefore of GDODAD.

While I do not wish to anger anyone, I merely want to allow all sides to be honestly discussed. If GDODAD has a problem with the New Nation Alliance, just say so.

Please write to directly if you ahve a comment.

Speaking on behalf of the Serene Republic of Tribal Gods
Member of the Internation Council of Tribal Countries

Chief Charging Antelope

I have no problem with this alliance, I just hope Hutu wasn't a "noob." If he was, he has a d@mn good military for it. Hutu's Premier Roach is dead, though.

Hey,

Just would like to inform everyone that the NNA site has undergone a "facelift" and lemme say the site looks much better - the address is the same as usual http://www.wolfserve.net/NewNations

OOC: to all the regulars, I'm back home and goin crazy xD lol

I got Uranuim Mines.

Free Uranuim Mines for all the NNA Members!!!


~ATA~
Treasurer of NNA.

As I have stated in another thread (before the NNA was even started, lol), we have been developing AI technologies (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2486749#2486749) and such technologies by order of the President of New Izumi will be made availible to all members of the NNA at no cost.

Minister of Defence
New Izumi

::VP and Head SysAdmin to the NNA::

out of curiousity, what can this alliance do if a situation came to light, say that Melkor and GDODAD decided action? They have been known to crush noobies.....

Well, firstly they would still have a few August nations to deal with (myself included). And I am sure that in 5 months of playing, I have made a few score friends here. Most of which belong to Alliances.....(probably)

Now this is what I'm talkin about! Count me in. Even though I'm probably bigger than all of y'all, I can be the 'powerhouse'. Plus just ask me for all of your mobile suit/starfighter needs.

Nah, I'm bigger than you, I think you are now 3rd largest. But that is still pretty impressive out of somewhere around 50 nations.

HAPPY F*CKIN NEW YEAR!

NNA Alliance.

I welcome any member to join NNA Regional Ryders. We are a group that is an independant part of NNA, but still part of it.

Oh, I'm good!

Although I'm very new, I will back your cause, and give support when needed, if you'll allow it.

Ill join do you have a region for this alliance?

no, only a forum good sir. could someone please link him? Im too lazy.

Actually there is a region, but it is PW protected, telegram me or
The United Socialist States of West Pacific for the PW, all though it isn't very original........

the area is New Nation Alliance
sod it i'll put the PW here, soon edit it out if neone complains
nna

NNA Alliance.

I welcome any member to join NNA Regional Ryders. We are a group that is an independant part of NNA, but still part of it.


I don't know if they are fringe radical, but I know they're a split off. I PREDICTED THIS! Who's good!

And if you're slightly older, and have a good environment, and lean left politically, and are good in all three categories (or reasonably so), join my region which is pretty much made of NNA nations anyways :) (Penguisiana will join one of these days, I think)

Having multiple spheres of influence is good...:P

I would like a clarification, is the NNA Regional Ryders a split off? If they are... how can they be still part of the NNA if they are a split off? I'm confused.

NNA Regional Ryders does regional crashings I believe. Although they're still allied with the NNA. I think.

no, only a forum good sir. could someone please link him? Im too lazy.

The URL is http://www.wolfserve.net/NewNations/news.php

But we do have a region, it is simply called "New Nation Alliance"

I would like a clarification, is the NNA Regional Ryders a split off? If they are... how can they be still part of the NNA if they are a split off? I'm confused.

I think they are a split off like.....uhh...*looks for a good metaphor* .....like....(bad metaphor, I know....) a country is part of an Empire. It is a different entity, probably has its own Government or whatever, but it is part of the greater entity (the Empire) too, and ultimately, it reports to them. So they are part of us, but are taking their actions into their own initiative...

I don't know if this is a better analogy...but...

NNA Regional Ryders : NNA :: Duchy of Saxony : Holy Roman Empire.

I don't know if this is a better analogy...but...

NNA Regional Ryders : NNA :: Duchy of Saxony : Holy Roman Empire.

Yeah, that works also...

What's the point of having a separate group within the alliance? I thought the idea behind this was to have a unified front in case of unwarranted attacks on the newer nations by countries with singularly larger military forces. Surely the motive of region crashing is separate to the goals of the NNA. I'm not saying that groups of nations belonging to the NNA shouldn't region crash... I'm just confused as to why they feel the need to take the name of the alliance onboard in order to do it. It seems to me that this would just be using the NNA as a shield for their actions when it really has nothing to do with the alliance.

Why don't you just give your region-crashing group a wholly separate identity to the alliance?

Walter Phemtch - Secretary of Foreign Affairs - Sybaritia

Garrison II Gross Domestic Product
Population: 2,101,000,000
Civil Rights: Rare
Economy: Frightening
GDP per Capita: $35,000
GDP: $73,535,000,000,000
National Budget: $23,015,278,440,000

Percentage of GDP Spent on Defense: 15.65%
Percentage of Budget Spent on Defense: 50%
Military Budget: $11,507,639,220,000

Enough for:
370,020 F-15Es, or...
575,381 Su-34s, or...
612,108 F-16s, or...
1,046,149 MiG 29s, or...
2,676,195 M1A2 Abrams, or...
3,835,879 T-90s, or...
19,637,609,590 M-16s, or...
38,358,797,400 AK47s

Oooh, does that make me Barbarossa? :D

And um, Garrison, whatever was that for?

Sybaritia, I'll be gone for a few days but I'll look into this. If anyone else would do that for me, I'd be most appreciative.

Greetings New Nations Alliance members.

As President of the Republic of Tiborita, I submit my nations application to join the alliance.

Thank you,
Tibor

Talamoose would like to join the alliance.

The NNA welcomes all new members and encourages them to register at our website www.wolfserve.net/NewNations . Feel free to participate in any discussions or votes and to read over our constitution.

Oooh, does that make me Barbarossa? :D

And um, Garrison, whatever was that for?

Sybaritia, I'll be gone for a few days but I'll look into this. If anyone else would do that for me, I'd be most appreciative.

Cause your website has a GDP Calculator

Speaking on behalf of the entire Tiboritian population, I would like to express our thanks for allowing our nation into the alliance.

I have a question. Should a nation take an aggressive stance against an alliance member, how will other alliance members be alerted to the threat?

Thank you,
President Tibor

That would have to be judged on the circumstances. If one nation is obviously acting out of order, we would support the other. However, in some cases it may be necessary to point out that this organisation aims to protect by strength in numbers the members from other agressors. If it was an internal dispute, we could let the two countries be, to sort out their differences themselves. It entirely depends on the circumstances...

Typically we post important incidents at our website. Otherwise, if it is important and dealing with only a few nations they can be contacted through telegrams.

thank you, Hudecia. As Commander-in-Chief of the Tiboritian Defence Force, I pledge this nation to the defense of liberty, justice, and sovernty of all alliance member nations. I will try to stay on top of the forums, but if foriegn nations take an aggressive stance on a member nation and I have not responded, I hope a member will t-gram me to let me know my assistance is needed.

Same here, even though I'm not technically part of the alliance anymore. Just make sure I'm not in a war.

D@MN BIGMENISTAN TO HE!!! We were about to put the war to an end when he showed up and started the whole thing up again.

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