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(OOC: Yay! Descriptions of hyperadvanced medical tech!)

The Aumanii was stripped of all clothing, with that that wasn't destroyed stored for later return to it's owner. The body was carefully placed inside a metal and glass cylinder, the chamber filled with xenon, and then cooled by liquid nitrogen, before being slid inside a larger white cylinder.

"NRI scan 10% complete... 20%... 30%...."

We applaud Tannelornian forces in their effort to end the war sooner than is expected. In their assault of Tor Yvresse Mars they will destroy the enemy.

We applaud Tannelornian forces in their effort to end the war sooner than is expected. In their assault of Tor Yvresse Mars they will destroy the enemy.

[*whistles idly*]

OOC:

[ooc: oh, okay.. so am I under attack or not?]

On the ground, even as white-hot spheromak bolts and DU bullets screamed towards the LA and Melkorian ships

Well, it certainly looks like it...

The Forces of General Bartfeldt, Tiger of the Desert had left the enemy prisoners in the custody of the Aumani Forces and turned on their heels, heading to Aelosia after word of the Attack...12 hours of forced marching saw them within sight of their goal...the massive Frigates of the Tannelorn naval marines blocking out the sun beneath them....it was a frightening sight as the moved along the outside of the Vascilian Defense wall....directly to wards Aelosia itself and the enemies attacking from its supposed safety.

OOC:

Woah, woah- don't you think you're speeding things up a little bit much, here? The troops at Hellespontos practically marching straight to the new front in a single post? I know they've got jump packs & everything, but come on...

Besides, they'd be busy dispatching the Eldar they were able to cut off from reaching the web gates- I doubt very much that the Avatar would have been even CAPABLE of withdrawing from the field of battle, & as long as he ain't dead the Aspect Warriors you've encircled aren't very likely to have surrendered. The battle at Hellespontos might not matter any more, but it certainly isn't over. You're in the same situation the Werchmat was in when it encircled all those Soviet troops in the basins.

My post, obviously, pre-dates the final defeat of the remaining Eldar & the sprinting of the Tannelornians from Hellespontos to the Vascillan Defence Wall.


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IC:

In high orbit somewhere above Mars, there was for the briefest of moments a slight ripple in the very fabric of reality.

Then His Lordship's Third Fleet exploded into the void in an intense flash of boson particles, shattering any semblance of serenity. The hideous vessels emerged from hyperspace with engines already blazing, streaking over the pock-marked surface of the Hellespontos at thousands upon thousands of feet.

They wasted no time- data had been relayed to them via hypercomm before they had made their microjump out of Jovian space, & they knew well that sticking around to be blasted by planetary defence weapons & swarmed by Vascillan spacecraft would be sheer folly. They did not even attempt to engage any of the already embattled starfleets, content merely to blast through Martian space at obscene speeds before finally losing momentum & slewing around a few thousand kilometers to the galactic south of Mars' southern cap, having broken orbit.

There was purpose in this seemingly needless endevour.

Small pods that clung limpet-like to the surface of some of the grotesque starships had detached themselves from their hulls at calculated distances from the scene of the battle at Hellespontos, & had began to break up as they passed near to it.

A slow cold boost would be the first sign that something was up; anyone capable of achieving some sort of visual contact on the fast-moving pods being able to see them discharging...something; too fast for the eye to follow. Immediately thereafter the pods fell to pieces, torn apart by G-forces & scattering through orbit in a jumble of metallic components.

However, the something that they had discharged- inconspicous metal spears named "garros" by the fleet technicians, were not nearly so harmless.

Almost invisible to begin with, the fearsome kinetic projectiles de-orbiting into the Hellespontos area at varying angles of approach were suddenly the most eye-catching objects in the sky as they tore through the atmosphere, white hot streaks blazing down upon the Vascillans & the remaining Eldar like so many unnatural comets, thunderbolts from out of the Heavens directed by a cruel & angry God.

The least of these garros had enough kinetic energy behind them to punch through a Nimitz suppercarrier & into the ocean beneath, & although their accuracy was hardly pinpoint their sheer destructiveness made targetting irrelevant so long as they came down in the general vicinty of their intended victims.

Uninterceptable by conventional means due to their speed and lack of volatility, the hammer of Sauron does in this case consist of the following high speed white hot objects:

70 tungsten garross of 20 kg mass ~ kinetic energy of around 300 pounds of TNT.

110 tungsten garros of 46 kg mas ~ kinetic energy equivalent to 1000 pounds of TNT.

40 tungsten garros of 180 kg mass ~ kinetic energy about equal to two tons of TNT (metric or standard are close enough for the accuracy of most analysis attempts of the strike).

10 large steel garros (softened somewhat by de-orbit in spite of a composite ablative shielding) of 1000 kg mass ~ kinetic energy equivalent to approximately 10 tons of TNT

3 large multilayered garros (composition about 10% titanium alloy, 10% ablative shieding, 70% steel, and 10% other) 60 feet long, masses of 100 metric tons, able to strike with a kinetic energy yield of around 1 kiloton each, more or less.

Most come down more or less where they are supposed to- upon the Aumanii armoured divisions, Tannelornian Knights etc. & the Eldar that they have cut off & encircled (the Dark Lord cares nothing for collateral damage, perhaps unsurprisingly) near & ahead of the first trench at the Hellespontos wall. Some, due to the very nature of orbital barrages, are of course way off. A dozen tungsten garros come down somewhere between trenches 2-6. One dosen't even achieve orbit, having never boosted as intended out of its limpet pod. Still another 46 kg tungsten garros & one of the steel ones streak towards the Wall itself.

The fleet meanwhile, attempts desperately to achive some sort of cohesive formation, the nature of their high-speed pass having left them all somewhat disoriented.


Sauron the Deceiver
Lord of Abomination
http://www.theargonath.cc/characters/sauron/pictures/sauron2.jpg
~Dark Lord of Mordor, First Among Maiar, Lieutenant of Morgoth~
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OOC:

Alright, basically, the fleet, relayed data on positions & what have you via hypercomm by Kull satellites, the LA fleet, their Yvressan "allies" or whoever are bursting out of hyperspace over Mars.

Upon coming out of FTL, they don't slow down any, using momentum to their advantage, so as to circumvent ground-based defences & streak by the already engaged Vascillan fleets before they can go on the attack. As the fleet passes through Martian space limpet pods detach from the vessels' hulls at pre-programmed distances & break up near the space over the Hellespontos, realeasing a number of metallic spears which, as they de-orbit, achieve insane speeds. Their kinetic energy alone gives them the power they need to massacre a goodly number of the Vascillans & encircled Eldar which are engaged at the Hellespontos Wall & leave anything remaining that hasn't already been scattered to the winds in a state of total chaos.

The garros are coming down wherever (accuracy is not pinpoint, as I've already stated) amidst the Tannelornian Knights, advancing/withdrawing Aumanii armoured divisions, the encircled Eldar (& their Avatar, which we've got to assume is still at large) & anything else that happened to have been in the area. Casualties would likely include some of the remaining Kajali Martians, LRR people, Mangalans etc. Their deaths as collateral as any Eldar casualties, of course.

The attack has no immediate tactical significance- now that the decisive battle has moved to Auman, it is meant only to massacre as many people (preferably Vascillan & allied) on the ground as possible & devestate the land.

Please note that the attack pre-dates Tannelorn's marching everyone elsewhere, the end of the battle etc (as I've already said, the Eldar already cut off would have yet to surrender, & it's highly unlikely that the Eldar Avatar joined the escapees in strategic withdrawl. Even if the battle was more or less done with, the garros would hit before the Tannelornians could've marched off the scene of the battle. Logistically, it's impossible).

Further, it does not warrant Wazzuian intervention as Sauron's forces were not with Melkor as this whole affair began, & enter now seemingly on the side of the Craftworlders (& Wazzu's already stated that it has nothing to do with THAT war).

Think of the attack as equivelant to a space-borne high-speed drive-by shooting. I'll post fleet numbers later, so you can go for the offending vessels if you want.

"Incoming!"

Tens of HPDs scattered through the battlezone buzzed to life in response to the falling objects, extending their telekinetic influence to nudge the projectiles out of the way. Of course, there's no way to keep them from eventually hitting the ground, but the two headed for the wall were redirected into an empty section of nearby trenches, while most of the rest were quickly steered into clumps, carving huge craters into the landscape and throwing up several tons of dust and larger ejecta, as far from the Vascillian troops as it was possible to get them in the short amount of time available.

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The LRR medics scatter, hoping to avoid the bombardment. Most of the LRR force had been withdrawn into orbit beforehand, though, and they wee not operating in the vicinity of the bombardment. However, there were several casualties and the efforts of the medevac personell was essentially thwarted.

Info on the Hutchison Effect: http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/Thinktank/8863/HEffect1.html.

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OOC: Hey - I'd like to remind people that this isn't a tech debate. YOU decide what casualties you take depending on what you feel is appropriate based on your understanding of your and your opponents tech and of course the quality of RP. This really belongs in TG or IRC debate.

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I think you're missing my point.

But whatever- we've wasted enough space already, so I'm just going to accept these stupid things & instead declare what's getting through.

70 tungsten garros of 20 kg mass ~ kinetic energy of around 300 pounds of TNT.

110 tungsten garros of 46 kg mas ~ kinetic energy equivalent to 1000 pounds of TNT.

40 tungsten garros of 180 kg mass ~ kinetic energy about equal to two tons of TNT (metric or standard are close enough for the accuracy of most analysis attempts of the strike).

10 large steel garros (softened somewhat by de-orbit in spite of a composite ablative shielding) of 1000 kg mass ~ kinetic energy equivalent to approximately 10 tons of TNT

3 large multilayered garros (composition about 10% titanium alloy, 10% ablative shieding, 70% steel, and 10% other) 60 feet long, masses of 100 metric tons, able to strike with a kinetic energy yield of around 1 kiloton each, more or less.

Most come down more or less where they are supposed to- upon the Aumanii armoured divisions, Tannelornian Knights etc. & the Eldar that they have cut off & encircled (the Dark Lord cares nothing for collateral damage, perhaps unsurprisingly) near & ahead of the first trench at the Hellespontos wall. Some, due to the very nature of orbital barrages, are of course way off. A dozen tungsten garros come down somewhere between trenches 2-6. One dosen't even achieve orbit, having never boosted as intended out of its limpet pod. Still another 46 kg tungsten garros & one of the steel ones streak towards the Wall itself.

Tens of HPDs scattered through the battlezone buzzed to life in response to the falling objects, extending their telekinetic influence to nudge the projectiles out of the way. Of course, there's no way to keep them from eventually hitting the ground, but the two headed for the wall were redirected into an empty section of nearby trenches, while most of the rest were quickly steered into clumps, carving huge craters into the landscape and throwing up several tons of dust and larger ejecta, as far from the Vascillian troops as it was possible to get them in the short amount of time available.

80-90 [HPDs]. You launched 233 projectiles. If I'm reading right, one didn't deploy correctly. Down to 232. Twelve were already headed for ineffective areas. Down to 220. The two headed for the wall could be taken care of by the flying barges and and base camps behind the wall. Down to 218. We already know that those aren't very accurate, so we can take it down to only 200 at the most that would pose a significant threat. The Spirit was still deployed over the pole, and would've been able to deflect a few- at least one of the multilayers is no longer a problem then, and likely some of the smaller ones. So the ground HPDs now only have to worry about a little over twice as many projectiles as there are HPDs. Each HPD would only have to apply force to any one projectile for a couple of seconds, so almost every one would be able to target at least two, if not more, with a few exceptions for those that are too far off to the side, have faulty comm equipment, whatever. So, yes, only the barest handful would hit where they were supposed to, but you can be sure that those ones didn't hit close enough to kill many Kaseians, especially since the vast majority of Kaseian forces are robot drones.

Since the Spirit & friends were not mentioned in your post, they have nothing to do with anything. Tough luck. The garros that were off-target were mentioned already, so the further eighteen you claimed to be off target were, in fact, on target. The 46 kg & the steel garros headed for the wall, as you say, are deflecting into some trenches- but since Auman had all the trenches manned, they are not empty, so that's two headed for the trenches. The other twelve garros mentioned as headed for the tenches figure into the equation, so:

The 14 off-target garros that impact the trenches consist of:

12 tungsten garros of 20 kg mass ~ kinetic energy of around 300 pounds of TNT.

1 tungsten garros of 46 kg mas ~ kinetic energy equivalent to 1000 pounds of TNT.

1 large steel garros (softened somewhat by de-orbit in spite of a composite ablative shielding) of 1000 kg mass ~ kinetic energy equivalent to approximately 10 tons of TNT.

Assuming that there were 85 HPDs & most got two of the remaining garros, that leaves us with, out of 218 garros originally on target, 58 remaining garros.

All of which hit where they are supposed to, in the midst of the Aumanii armour, Tannelornian Knights & whoever else was engaged in routing & encircling the Eldar.

Those 58 garros that hit on-target consist of:

9 large steel garros (softened somewhat by de-orbit in spite of a composite ablative shielding) of 1000 kg mass ~ kinetic energy equivalent to approximately 10 tons of TNT.

2 large multilayered garros (composition about 10% titanium alloy, 10% ablative shieding, 70% steel, and 10% other) 60 feet long, masses of 100 metric tons, able to strike with a kinetic energy yield of around 1 kiloton each, more or less.

19 tungsten garros of 46 kg mas ~ kinetic energy equivalent to 1000 pounds of TNT.

13 tungsten garros of 20 kg mass ~ kinetic energy of around 300 pounds of TNT.

15 tungsten garros of 180 kg mass ~ kinetic energy about equal to two tons of TNT (metric or standard are close enough for the accuracy of most analysis attempts of the strike).

Okay, so with that settled, Eniqcir, you can erase the content on all your OOC posts, & I will then erase all of mine.

This seem reasonable enough to you?

Seeing their presence is quite useless, the LRR forces withdraw into orbit and head home. The hospital ship keeps its casualties aboard for treatment in a safer environment.

"What the hell is that sound..." Naik Ulpeso muttered, seconds later, he and his trench section were obliterated. Ammunition touched off by the explosions had begun to take a horrible toll on the Aumanii troops and equipment, thousands being killed in just a few seconds of enemy fire. The few remaining troops in trench sectors 2-6 could see the bright bars of energy lance up towards the sky in response to the orbital bombardment.


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General Ilritz had just given the orders for his troops to withdraw and make haste to Aelosia when the news came, horrific casualties suffered by the men would lower morale...the Vanyc had just arrived only to be slaughtered with out a way to fight back. Aumanii troops, withdrawing from their most successful action in years had been hit on the roads leading into enemy territory...but were still combat effective. "We will make the enemies of the League pay for what they have done to us...never again shall we be the under dog. Mars is our destiny! all of us are linked to it in a way that none of these colonies will never understand."
Ilritz rose one gloved fist into the air.

"TO THE DEATH!"

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Fleet Commander Chelazk grew suspicious of the Eldar fleet, no matter how much fire they put into the fleet they would neither die or take heed. "Holograms..." Chelazk checked the fleet sensors and not to his surprise the real enemy fleet had appeared, totally circumventing the defenses. As the raiders began their sling shot move away from the planet Chelazk hastily typed in fleet orders and relayed them. Seconds afterward the fleet had engaged Supraluminous Drives, dropping themselves roughly 200,000 km of the enemies position. Taking moments to reorient themselves and aquire their targets the fleet opened fire.

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The Indentured Vanyc garrison had only just arrived when the bombardment hit, moments ago the Aumanii troops had occupied the target trenches...the first true combat action of the peoples of Vanyc would begin in tragedy.

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Total Losses:

-3681 Vanyc Indentured Soldiers.
-2890 infantry.
-200 Hellespontos Guard.
-78 MBT(all divisions).
-12 Super Heavy's(All divisions).

OOC:

Im taking it easy on the infantry, cause Im hoping the losses will be spread amongst the Coalition. Vanyc is lazy...so Im just going to start taking Tithes from the inactive players...Indentured soldiers. Vanyc is too occupy Hellespontos while my troops make way to Auman.

Vascilian troops are moving fast...we have to. Enemy troops are invading the league. So, we can either waste troops and supplies in a defense that would take years to resolve or we can take the fight to the enemy. Completely destroy their ability to send reinforcement.

Hopefully, knowing that help will not arrive and that their territory is at stake they will surrender. Ive never seen a war where the defender came out with more territory than the attacker.

OOC:

Uh, my vessels aren't a part of any Eldar fleet. Lord Sauron Reborn, over here. Y'know, Mordor, Orcs, the One Ring, all that stuff? You should still be duking it out with a non-holographic Tor Yvressan fleet, near as I can tell. The guy just hasn't gotten around to the space theatre, yet.

& come on, man, you're being pretty conservative with your losses, here. The garros' primary targets were the tanks etc. of the armour divisions which were way out on a limb routing the Eldar, & you lost what, just over 40 vehicles? We're dealing in kilotons, here- like, equivelant to several pony nukes exploding in your midst. I think I deserve a little more than that. This is what's been annoying people. I mean, more garros landed on target than tanks were destroyed. Absurd.

Please edit.

With Spirit still keeping position over Hellespontus, the other four Wellstones flew to the border areas, Ghost and Phantasm patrolling the Aleosian border while Specter and Phantom patrolled Burninatonia.

As troops approached, a deafening voice reverberated across the landscape, originating apparently from nowhere.

Fight no more or face your doom! The Four Riders, Death, Famine, Pestilence, and War, will bring Apocalypse upon you!

100 Starfires broke from the orbital engagement and began falling out of the sky into Tannelornian territory. There, they would wait until they were needed.

OOC:

Sauron, my ships have been in the thread the whole time shooting at Tor Yvresse's fleet...he never responded so I just claimed them to be holographic and non-existant. I know your fleet is different, and Iam trying to head them off at the pass.

And Iam being conservative with my losses...considering its spread out along a 500 km front and 5 nations. Why do my troops always have to take the worst casualties? Vanyc took tons, those may as well be my troops since Ive taken over their government.

With Spirit still keeping position over Hellespontus, the other four Wellstones flew to the border areas, Ghost and Phantasm patrolling the Aleosian border while Specter and Phantom patrolled Burninatonia.

As troops approached, a deafening voice reverberated across the landscape, originating apparently from nowhere.

Fight no more or face your doom! The Four Riders, Death, Famine, Pestilence, and War, will bring Apocalypse upon you!

100 Starfires broke from the orbital engagement and began falling out of the sky into Tannelornian territory. There, they would wait until they were needed.

OOC:

We need to get Aelosia to stop helping them...we need as much support as possible, considering this is going on http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=106028&highlight=

OOC:

Sauron, my ships have been in the thread the whole time shooting at Tor Yvresse's fleet...he never responded so I just claimed them to be holographic and non-existant. I know your fleet is different, and Iam trying to head them off at the pass.

And Iam being conservative with my losses...considering its spread out along a 500 km front and 5 nations. Why do my troops always have to take the worst casualties? Vanyc took tons, those may as well be my troops since Ive taken over their government.

First off- don't whinge like that. You're casualties are stupidly low, don't try to fob people off by putting losses on nations you're proxying for, which we all know count for nothing.

The garros came down primarily on Aumanii armour & Tannelornian Knights. MORE GARROS HIT ON TARGET THAN AUMANII TANKS WERE DESTROYED. That's ludicrous- the projectiles would take at least two tanks apiece- & I do mean at least -even over a large area. & I'm being generous with those estimates. The garros were not even marked for the infantry, remember- they're just bonuses, so giving me a whole bunch of worthless indentured soldiers that we saw no sign of up to now is a very poorly laid ploy to get out of taking damage, & one that I ain't buying.

As for declaring the Yvressan fleet non-existant...you just can't do that. It's extreme auto-playing- not even god-moding touches such an act in terms of bad RP.

He'll respond to the space theater before long, don't worry. Why not only break off SOME ships to "head me off at the pass"? Because I'm telling you now, everyone will ignore you if you start declaring their stuff non-existant. Myself & Tor never co-ordinated this attack, anyway, so even were we to play along with the whole hologram thing your post is fundamentally flawed.

You've got to edit your post, one way or another, or people are just going to erase Vascilia from the map & make like you're not even there.

Inside the Webway, the Tannelorn forces noted something was slightly wrong. The Forces Activated the webway portal, and as was planned the Armour and Aircraft fired a massive fussilade of missile...hundreds of missiles streaked out of the now open portal.....But as the first tannelorn Division rushed through they realised they were not at all in front of the dome of Crystal Seers, but instead they were inside one of the rallying stations, where Eldar Hosts prepared to embark to battle.

The area was quiet, the massive damage caused to the surroundings was eclipsed by the utter lack of defenders. a few Guardians lay here and there...while they heard the frantic shouts of others as they attempted to figure out what was going on. The first Division poured out of the Webway in an attempt to silence the Defenders before a cal for alarm could be made. Activating his jumpjets, King Roland Alberecht led the charge of the First Division.....

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As general Bartfeld's forces neared Aelosia territory, theymoved back down in to the Vascilian Borders...rather then Enter the Enemies territory...they moved to attack the Rear of Tor Yvresse Forces.


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The first through 42 divisions of the Tannelorn CDU Troopers finally made it to Vascilia city, Greeting the Beleagured Aumanii Defenders, Prefect-General Anaryll Smythe Saluted in Tannelorn fashion...but was simply pointed towards the noise and light in the distance......

OOC:

general Bartfeld's forces neared Aelosia territory, theymoved back down in to the Vascilian Borders...rather then Enter the Enemies territory...they moved to attack the Rear of Tor Yvresse Forces.

The Tannelornian Knights that were at Hellespontos are still engaged in an encirclement battle with the Eldar, & have been hit by a kinetic strike from high orbit.

Perhaps you should try reading the posts? The one relevant to you is at the bottom of Page 12, you can't miss it.

((OOC: Since the thread (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=101983) I had been using isn't that active, I'll just make this here. It doesn't really concern the wars going on, but should be noticed by many none the less.))

IC: The Ur-Quan Dreadnoughts had started their ascent from the Colony and as they left, they went to the same coordinates as the Marauders had before them. They were filled with equipment and with the few hundred Ur-Quan Kohr-Ah colonists who were stationed there. A massive swarm of fighters had started ascending from the Colony with the Dreadnoughts, but their survival was not really that relevant. The ones that did not get themselves destroyed while ascending had no problems at all finding their way to the smallish Marauder fleet.

When the last Dreadnought came out of it, the Colony's numerous self destruct mechanisms went off, and within it happened a multitude of explosions, destroying the interior of the Colony completely. It did not take long until the explosions came all the way up to the surface, and destroyed the Colony's remaining exterior as well. But this was not quite enough. Something else would have to be done, so that no one would ever find anything that could be used from the now wrecked colony.

The Ur-Quan knew exactly what they were going to do. Something massive jumped out of HyperSpace. It was towed by a multitude of Ur-Quan vessels. It was the Sa-Matra (http://sensori.soldats.net/kuvia/kohrah/samatra3.jpg), as menacing as ever. From it was sent a transmission to anyone who cared to hear it.

"We are the Ur-Quan Kohr-Ah. No one is to close in on the Sa-Matra. Our Colony shall be annihilated. We will then leave you to fight your pointless wars."

They were going to utterly destroy the Colony with only a small part of Sa-Matra's true power. They would do this just right. They had all the time they would ever need. They would not do it before the Marauders and the Dreadnoughts had unloaded their cargo onto the Sa-Matra, which, incidentally, had started moving towards it when it appeared.

OOC:

Interesting. You should hang on to see what Wazzu has to say to this before blowing away the colony's remnants, though.

Important, Mangalan policy, planetary address

http://www.bbfree.com/NSMars/index.php?showtopic=40&st=0&#entry376

OOC:

Sauron, my ships have been in the thread the whole time shooting at Tor Yvresse's fleet...he never responded so I just claimed them to be holographic and non-existant. I know your fleet is different, and Iam trying to head them off at the pass.

And Iam being conservative with my losses...considering its spread out along a 500 km front and 5 nations. Why do my troops always have to take the worst casualties? Vanyc took tons, those may as well be my troops since Ive taken over their government.

First off- don't whinge like that. You're casualties are stupidly low, don't try to fob people off by putting losses on nations you're proxying for, which we all know count for nothing.

The garros came down primarily on Aumanii armour & Tannelornian Knights. MORE GARROS HIT ON TARGET THAN AUMANII TANKS WERE DESTROYED. That's ludicrous- the projectiles would take at least two tanks apiece- & I do mean at least -even over a large area. & I'm being generous with those estimates. The garros were not even marked for the infantry, remember- they're just bonuses, so giving me a whole bunch of worthless indentured soldiers that we saw no sign of up to now is a very poorly laid ploy to get out of taking damage, & one that I ain't buying.

As for declaring the Yvressan fleet non-existant...you just can't do that. It's extreme auto-playing- not even god-moding touches such an act in terms of bad RP.

He'll respond to the space theater before long, don't worry. Why not only break off SOME ships to "head me off at the pass"? Because I'm telling you now, everyone will ignore you if you start declaring their stuff non-existant. Myself & Tor never co-ordinated this attack, anyway, so even were we to play along with the whole hologram thing your post is fundamentally flawed.

You've got to edit your post, one way or another, or people are just going to erase Vascilia from the map & make like you're not even there.

OOC:

Look, I reminded him several times that there was a space conflict. I never said his ships weren't there...just the ones that we were shooting at were a ruse.

I think you ought to take losses from the ground defenses that would have been firing on your ships when they appeared. They been firing almost non-stop since the enemies arrived in orbit, so dont think your exempt.

I'll edit because you're whining and I really dont care/have the time to argue as I have better things to do now that christmas is a few days away. Its just numbers.

ooc yes the Tannelorn were "hit" by a kinetic strike...fortunately my fleet and my fighters were able to shoot most of the second and third wave strikes down, coupled with the three inch thick power armour and reinforced Pulminary of the Tannelorn knights means only direct impacts made a difference, plus they were moving at 300-500 klicks depending on the units. these arent GI style soldiers but Genetically engineered warriors designed to take on ten times their number and win...with the best equipment that can be offered.


I mean Tor Yvresse didnt take any damage from an orbital bombardment by 150 ships with a cannon with the force of 5 hydrogen bombs....what are a few high explosives in the face of that. And I DID shoot a bunch of those down...why all my RP and story fluff states that my People are Genetically Engineered to the highest standards....as well as the healthiest citizens to back it up...we dont even use computers to target....our people are better targetting computers then our 2000 odd info tech......oh and i know enough about GE in RL to tell you how all of it works, in fact i can tell you how every single technology and system in my army works.



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the First Wave of Morgenraete Fighters hit the enemy fleet at incredible speed [mach 25 at least] the majourity of them targeted the Enemy fighers while the bomber variants with their deadly rapid Fire X-ray projectors closed on the enemy ships [same idea as Ingelstung and Genesis much smaller] Missiles streaked by the thousand from the attacking craft, Maser and Particle beam fire raking the enemy fighter craft and Point defense systems.


Some morgenreates could be seen "skating" across the hulls of Capital ships, moving with a speed and maneuverability unparralelled by "natural" human's blasting Enemy Weapon systems or ripping great gouges in the enemy hulls with their X ray projectors, here and there Morgenreates blossomed in to flame as they were hit by enemy anti aircraft, or were unlucky enough to be struck by fighter craft.....then the Second Wave of fighters hit preceded by Loengren Fire from the Cruisers whom had turned from the orbital Bombardment to destroy the enemy ships who had dared strike at Hellespontos.


ooc Grand total fighters close to 8000, still well over 5000 in reserve
50x400=20000 grand total 200 carriers in fleet...the "morgenreates are also a staple of the Army and are used as the foot troops of PLANT the space colonies, as well as the Naval Troopers....after all in WW2 the American air force was almost 80 000 craft canadian was almost 20 000 and british was around the same.
Total Casualties are arond 100 morgenreates due to the high speed lightning strike. and the Rapid support of the Ships...Tannelorn is a Carrier fleet remember that, and its damage is done by pinning the enemy with fighters, gaining superiority and picking the ships off at their leisure, and extreme range...and we use formations designed to facilitate that.

All the cargo had been loaded to the Sa-Matra now, all that was left was demolishing the ruined Colony. Some of the remaining fighters were put on the Dreadnoughts, as to fill their fighter complements with new ships, the rest just went into the Sa-Matra. But now everything was clear, and no one could stop them from doing this anymore.

A relatively small number of the Sa-Matra's weapons were powering up, and they started locking on target, the Colony. All of the Dreadnoughts and the Marauders fleed out of harm's way, the intention was not to destroy the Ur-Quan fleet. Soon, the Sa-Matra would be ready to fire, and so it would.

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First off- Tannelorn. You really can't shoot down large, hypersonic spears of white hot metal. What are you going to do? If an ABM missile managed to hit it, it would punch straight through. Bullets certainly aren't going to harm it any, & even it you could get a laser on it you're not going to be likely to slag it it in time. & by "not likely" I mean you couldn't.

Further, there's no way the Knights would survive several kilotons worth of explosions totally unscathed because they're in three inch thick power armour. The explosions would be sufficient to send them hurtling through the air, for one thing, & debris would batter/crush a goodly number of them to death, for another. If you've ever seen The Two Towers, imagine the scene where the wall at Helm's Deep is blown apart & the soldiers manning it are flying through the air, gigantic stone blocks crashing & bouncing down through the Uruk-hai, & you've got a pretty good idea of what's going on.

Just because they're space marines it dosen't mean that they can survive anything short of a fusion bomb hitting them dead on when they're having a nap- don't overestimate abilities.

I don't know about Tor not responding to an orbital bombardment of yours, likely he was ignoring- but do you want to follow a bad example? Besides, none of you ever responded the Lost Americans walloping you with something like 3 gigatons worth of destructiveness, so you're even, there.

To your fleet attack thingy- I'll accept but WOAH. You've gone from being engaged with the Eldar fleet to right in the middle of my formation within a SINGLE POST. Slow down. Follow your brother's example. Doesen't it occur to you that I might want to, y'know, shoot at you as you approach me? Stop getting so far ahead of yourself.

In any case, I'm waiting to hear what Tor has to say before carrying on this engagement. This could all still work out okay- Eldar ships utilise "holofields", your post about saying that you thought the Eldar ships to be holograms could still work if we played it like the holofields had only fooled your forces.

Then we can get on with the show- how many ships apiece do you have? Auman's lost about 400 from his previous 2000 in previous engagements, hasn't he?

Besides, none of you ever responded the Lost Americans walloping you with something like 3 gigatons worth of destructiveness, so you're even, there.
OOC: Are you really sure you don't want everyone to ignore the LA attack? 'Twould be bad for both sides.

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No, I'm pretty sure that everyone drowning is a bad thing- I'm just saying that if he's goine to moan about Tor ignoring his ortillary then he shouldn't be ignoring LA's.

You're a canny one, Eniqcir. It's a wonder Melkor hasn't concentrated more on pacifying YOU ;) .

The Sa-Matra fired. Beams of light rained down from the orbit of the planet and hit the ruined colony, annihilating the last structures that were still quite intact and rendering them unusable for all eternity. No one would find their secrets from that accursed place.

The crater had become much deeper than it had been, only partially because of the beams came down on it and exploded. Some water had evaporated in the process, but they did not care. Their job was done, the Colony did not exist anymore, and the Colonial Hierarchy had been disbanded. Now all they had to do was leave.

It would take a small while for the Sa-Matra to actually jump out of there, so the Dreadnoughts and the Marauders took defensive positions over it. They would not cause any more damage to the planet than they already had, they did not wish to cause the local nations to react negatively against them.

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Well, Tor Yvresse, Aelosia and New York and Jersey attacked my home land...so if you'll ditch us now, when we really need you then what ever. I guess you dont understand.

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Are you in drugs or something?. I don't remember launching an attack against your "homeland", or even entering your territory. All I said was that my army was in full alert and deployed along the border in a line of entrenched position similar to a Maginot line.


3 Million soldiers belonging to the numerous divisions of Auman didn't stop their advance into Aelosia, seizing much territory.

Aumanii troops moved to head off the air assault, hundreds of fighters engaged the enemy in the sky.

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Yeah...Im busy drinking so dont expect a post till tomorrow. Yvresse, all you want is slaves dont you. Useless bastards, all you got was Aelosia attacked.

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You did what?. I have three armoured divisions and almost 100.000 soldiers entrenched in the border, you can't just enter my territory and "seize much territory". Please TG me if you attack ok?, so I could response in a proper manner. It's called RP etiquette.

Due to this transgressions, the ShadowPrince has decided to launch an attack against the Vascilian league and expel them from our land. War has begun. May Mandos judge your deeds…In other words, I’ll post my strategy and you will have to accept it….



The Forces of General Bartfeldt, Tiger of the Desert had left the enemy prisoners in the custody of the Aumani Forces and turned on their heels, heading to Aelosia after word of the Attack...12 hours of forced marching saw them within sight of their goal...the massive Frigates of the Tannelorn naval marines blocking out the sun beneath them....it was a frightening sight as the moved along the outside of the Vascilian Defense wall....directly to wards Aelosia itself and the enemies attacking from its supposed safety.

"So, that's an invasion. Your behavior will be your doom, Mon-Keigh, today we will slake the sand with your blood. Red sand, red blood", said the Admiral as the troops of the Vascilian league entered Aelosian territory. "Send them all we have. Fire everything. And then retreat. We're going to win this war with mobility. Their numbers are bigger, but our troops are better equipped and trained. And we have the terrain advantage".

"Sire, but to leave the trenches and our fortified positions will make us more fragile to enemy fire. After all the work to build those positions...Are we going to abandon them in the hands of the enemy?. That's insane!", said the ViceAdmiral, the only woman in the room.

"So what?, Do you think we're going to fight as dwarves entrenched underground?. We'll fight as elves, in the open, taking advantage of our speed. And I have more information than you, the ShadowPrince is coming with the First and Second Fleet.", answered the Admiral hitting the table with his fist. "Victory will be ours. Prepare my plane. Today we will make fire fall from the sky".

As the troops from Tannelorn and Auman approached the border, they were hammered with the fire of hundreds of heavy weapon emplacements and consistent and sustained artillery fire. Falcon Taks provided cover and fired their weapons too, until the enemy approached too much. The casualties were minimal, after all the Vascilians were assaulting troops with heavy cover. However, they were just 70.000 troops, not enough to bring down the swarm of Vascilian troops. One thousand Gravtanks opened fire trying to stop the assault, but it wasn't enough.

But suddenly, when the Vascilian troops approached, all the Aelosian line turned in perfect formation and withdraw with order, abandoning their positions and retreating deeper into Aelosian territory. The trenches were now empty and defenceless...

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Okay gang (Auman, Tor, Tannelorn), I think I've sorted out the whole orbital battle thing.

Tor Yvresse initiated the battle by moving his fleets into position for strikes at the Hellespontos Wall. His starfleet consists of:

Four Fleets in total are gathering to strike at Mars. The Asuryan Fleet, and the Three Khaines Fleets. Each Fleet is Thirty Vessels in size, and carrys four Hundred Fighters. Meaning when I deploy I will be deploying 120 Capital ships of various sizes, and 1600 Fighters.

This was Auman's response:

Repaired and refitted the Auman fleet burst back into real space some 200 km's off target, out for blood they began firing upon the Tor Yvresse fleet.

The Carrier fleets stayed to the rear of a well deployed formation, launching fighter borrowed from the flight bays of Freehold station to launch deadly anti-ship sorties against the Eldar fleet.

Battleships and their accompanying frigates, doing what they do best. Launched an all out assault on the visible Eldar fleet assets, pounding them with High energy weapons and Mass drivers.

Vascilian Ground Defences were also pouring a continous stream of firing into the orbitting Tor Yvresse ships. High Energy Weapons and numerous light Anti-Ship Missiles amongst them, impacted the low lying fleet as they attempted to strike at Vascilian assets.
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NUMBERS:

3 Battleship groups
1 Carrier Battle group
3 Indirect Fire battle groups(Missile frigates, cruisers etc.)
1 Dreadnought Battle Group
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Battleship group; 300 ships; 2 Battle ships, 8 Heavy Cruisers, 20 Cruisers, 30 Destroyers, 240 Frigates(Cardboard)

Carrier Battle Group; 200 Ships; 1 Super Carrier, 9 Heavy Missile Cruisers, 20 Missile Cruisers, 30 Destroyers, 140 Frigates.

Dreadnought Battle Group; 300 ships; 1 Super Dreadnought(Zambneal), 9 Heavy Cruisers, 20 Cruisers, 30 Destroyers, 140 Frigates.

Indirect Fire Battle Group; 100 ships; 100 Missile Frigates.

Total: 1700 ships, Mostly Cardboard frigates but also made up of the old AF Fleet which form the core of its good space ships...300 were destroyed in the first naval engagement.

THIS was the easy-to-miss Yvressan counter:

In space the forces of Tor Yvresse raced against their foes, each Fleet picked a different point to strike at their foes, Working as a group

I get from that that they were working in their old Packs. Flitting around all over the place, hitting single ships with everything they have before quickly dodging away to come back & attack another one.

So this post by Auman:

Fleet Commander Chelazk grew suspicious of the Eldar fleet, no matter how much fire they put into the fleet they would neither die or take heed. "Holograms..." Chelazk checked the fleet sensors and not to his surprise the real enemy fleet had appeared, totally circumventing the defenses. As the raiders began their sling shot move away from the planet Chelazk hastily typed in fleet orders and relayed them. Seconds afterward the fleet had engaged Supraluminous Drives, dropping themselves roughly 200,000 km of the enemies position. Taking moments to reorient themselves and aquire their targets the fleet opened fire.

Isn't really valid. We can fix this, however, by saying that Chelzak was simply WRONG. The fleet sensors had been confused by the holofields that make Eldar ships, & to Aumanii technicians it appears as though the ships are actually holograms.

So the Aumanii fleet does exactly like it says in your post, making a microjump to catch Sauron's fleet & engage it, BUT you should post losses for vessels picked off by the very real Eldar packs that would have taken advantage of your moving to disengage & thinking them non-existant.

Tannelorn, I have discovered, never actually attacked the Eldar fleets, instead most of its fleet entered low orbit to pound the Yvressans on the ground & the remainder of their ships held position.

However:

justt to let you know their are still 350 ships in the Tannelorn fleet.

350 cruiser total, 250 Carrier 3 command ship...

So those 350 vessels (which out of the above roster would include what? If Tannelorn would provide me with a fleet composition...?) could still have moved to attack me, as in your post:

the First Wave of Morgenraete Fighters hit the enemy fleet at incredible speed [mach 25 at least] the majourity of them targeted the Enemy fighers while the bomber variants with their deadly rapid Fire X-ray projectors closed on the enemy ships [same idea as Ingelstung and Genesis much smaller] Missiles streaked by the thousand from the attacking craft, Maser and Particle beam fire raking the enemy fighter craft and Point defense systems.


Some morgenreates could be seen "skating" across the hulls of Capital ships, moving with a speed and maneuverability unparralelled by "natural" human's blasting Enemy Weapon systems or ripping great gouges in the enemy hulls with their X ray projectors, here and there Morgenreates blossomed in to flame as they were hit by enemy anti aircraft, or were unlucky enough to be struck by fighter craft.....then the Second Wave of fighters hit preceded by Loengren Fire from the Cruisers whom had turned from the orbital Bombardment to destroy the enemy ships who had dared strike at Hellespontos.


ooc Grand total fighters close to 8000, still well over 5000 in reserve
50x400=20000 grand total 200 carriers in fleet...the "morgenreates are also a staple of the Army and are used as the foot troops of PLANT the space colonies, as well as the Naval Troopers....after all in WW2 the American air force was almost 80 000 craft canadian was almost 20 000 and british was around the same.
Total Casualties are arond 100 morgenreates due to the high speed lightning strike. and the Rapid support of the Ships...Tannelorn is a Carrier fleet remember that, and its damage is done by pinning the enemy with fighters, gaining superiority and picking the ships off at their leisure, and extreme range...and we use formations designed to facilitate that.

There are some things wrong with that post anyway, though. For example-

.....then the Second Wave of fighters hit preceded by Loengren Fire from the Cruisers whom had turned from the orbital Bombardment to destroy the enemy ships who had dared strike at Hellespontos.

Dosen't really work, because the 250 ships in low orbit engaging in the orbital bombardment are too far away- my ships are no longer even in Martian space.

Plus the fact that you have your fighters engaging & getting in amongst my ships IMMEDIATELY dosen't give me much room for response.

We can make this all work too, though, by saying that the 350 ships that were still doing nothing were the ones that attacked, which works well enough, & by simply taking some of the stuff out of your post to give me a chance to actually do something.

So, having worked all that out, the space battle works out as follows.

Lord Sauron's 3rd Fleet makes a microjump from its position in Jovian space practically straight into high orbit over Mars, engines blazing. A number of limpet pods detach from their hulls at pre-programmed distances as they streak by, to initiate a THOR-type strike against Vascilian & allied forces at the Hellespontos Wall. The fleet sligshots away from the planet, breaking orbit quickly, & begins to gradually begins to form up as its momentum peters out.

The Aumanii, having had little luck pinning down the Yvressans in space, see this new threat & grow immediately suspicious. Having to move quickly or risk the escape of Hellespontos' attackers, Admiral Chelzak orders a sensor scan of the Craftworlder's ships. Duped by the Eldar vessels' sophisticated holofields, the sensors "reveal" the Eldar ships to be holograms. Not having had much time to look into this discovery & thinking on his feet, Chelzak immediately orders that the fleet make a jump to catch up to the Dark Lord's craft- the Eldar fleets just an elaborate ruse.

As the Aumanii ships move to disengage from battle & line up for FTL, however, they find themselves set upon by the "fake" Eldar ships, a number of them being picked off by the Yvressan packs just before they jump, ending up 200,000 km off the 3rd Fleet's position, thoroughly disoriented but still managing to get some target locks on the Ardan vessels commence firing.

The 350 unengaged Tannelornian ships, meanwhile, immediately begin chasing after Sauron's fleet, a wave of fighters being launched to make an attack run against it whilst the larger vessels are moving to catch up. Tannelornian cruisers ready their missile bays in preparation for a second strike against the Ardans when they get into the engagement zone.

If everyone's fine with that, all we need it for Auman to post some moderate losses & Tannelorn to post a roster for the 350 ships moving to engage me. I'll set up a new topic for the space battle.

Are we all agreed?

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Sauron the Deceiver
Lord of Abomination
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~Dark Lord of Mordor, First Among Maiar, Lieutenant of Morgoth~
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OOC: Ahem, the Aelosian Fleet orbiting around Mars is composed of:

1 Void Stalker Class Flagship
5 Shadow Class Cruisers
5 Eclipse Class Cruisers
10 Aurora Class Light Cruisers
10 Solaris Class Light Cruisers
40 Hellebore Class Frigates
40 Aconyte Class Frigates
80 Nightshade Class Destroyers
80 Hemlock Class Destroyers

Ground troops:

The standard garrison of 30.000 soldiers, most of them simple Guardians.
The Ground Task Force of the fleet, 50.000 men, most of them elites.
1000 Battle Grav Tanks, most of them Falcon, although several Prisms and heavy battle tanks are present too.
1500 Heavy weapon emplacements and artillery positions.

I need to post the forces of the ShadowPrince's fleet when he arrives...but mostly that's our forces in Mars.

ooc Range is no issue to the ships of the Tannelorn Fleet, the main guns or Ingelstung and Loengren have millions of kilometres range...its what they are....simply put they are a em field that squeezes the gamma and X radiation that is released when 5 [ten for loengren] hydrogen bombs are exploded. Essentially a giant laser. Second my orb./ bomb was accurate only because i was in Geo Synch...trying to orb bomb with Kinetic weapons in the wayyou did was innacurate. Either way the Tanelorn fleet could start shooting...and over Hellespontos is 150 ships, over Vascilia is 350 about to disengage we a re off till later, my little bor Auman wants a break for christmas so the war is "on hold" till then...and the response being immediate is a matter of the Carrier fleet philosophy of CAP or Combat air patrol. essentially there are always wide ranging patrols supporting each other, looking for that...when signalled all the fighters switch to High maneuver and blast off to intercept.


Morgenraetes though i will say, more then the knights, more then ships almost more then the Naval troopers are the heart of the Tannelorn Armed forces. they can do anything exceedingly well including attacking gground forces as they are in many ways a Veritech/valkyrie only more rugged and no guardian or even jet mode...just high speed lol. So that when you understand....that the fleet is nothing without the fighters...the cruisers are nice...but no full force fields means they are weak to enemy fighters and missiles...without the help of Morgenreate...but even the cruisers carry 50. Ok we will work something through...i will think on it and we can find a way to get this settled lol...we were done with Hellespontos before you showed up so bear with us we are thinking of other things right now lol.

OOC: Concerning the attack on Aelosia.... WAIT JUST A DING-DANG MINUTE! Have you forgotten the Wellstones on the border? The Vascillians wouldn't get within combat range before hearing that rather loud pronouncement of Apocalypse and being shooed away. And, as far as I can see, the only reason they were there in the first place was a grand misunderstanding on the matter of whether or not Aelosia had invaded first, which would be quickly disproven when they came around and saw NO ALEOSIAN TROOPS across the border.

Now then...

]The Sa-Matra fired. Beams of light rained down from the orbit of the planet and hit the ruined colony, annihilating the last structures that were still quite intact and rendering them unusable for all eternity. No one would find their secrets from that accursed place.

The crater had become much deeper than it had been, only partially because of the beams came down on it and exploded. Some water had evaporated in the process...
...setting the stage for major rainstorms, the breakup of local icefields, and minor tsunamis on the Elysian Coast.
(OOC: Don't know how powerful it is, but if it can destroy the entire colony in one shot...)

(OOC: Don't know how powerful it is, but if it can destroy the entire colony in one shot...)

((OOC: Well, it was technically already destroyed by the self destruct mechanisms (which most likely would've harmed the environment already), so it shouldn't be that hard to finish the job. The exterior (armoring) of the colony had collapsed, and the shield generator had been removed. It was a direct hit into the very core of the colony.))

As the Sa-Matra had regained its ability to jump into HyperSpace, it disappeared into it, and shortly after it the fleet went away also. They would now go back to Ur-Quan space, and never return to this accursed system. The using of Sa-Matra in this way was unprecedented, but so was the Kohr-Ah attempt to form a long standing colony on a planet in which other species already lived. This would have grave effects on their doctrinal views, but what they would do remains to be seen.

OOC: Concerning the attack on Aelosia.... WAIT JUST A DING-DANG MINUTE! Have you forgotten the Wellstones on the border? The Vascillians wouldn't get within combat range before hearing that rather loud pronouncement of Apocalypse and being shooed away. And, as far as I can see, the only reason they were there in the first place was a grand misunderstanding on the matter of whether or not Aelosia had invaded first, which would be quickly disproven when they came around and saw NO ALEOSIAN TROOPS across the border.

Now then...

]The Sa-Matra fired. Beams of light rained down from the orbit of the planet and hit the ruined colony, annihilating the last structures that were still quite intact and rendering them unusable for all eternity. No one would find their secrets from that accursed place.

The crater had become much deeper than it had been, only partially because of the beams came down on it and exploded. Some water had evaporated in the process...
...setting the stage for major rainstorms, the breakup of local icefields, and minor tsunamis on the Elysian Coast.
(OOC: Don't know how powerful it is, but if it can destroy the entire colony in one shot...)

OOC: Ahem, the Aelosian border is swarming with Aelosian troops since the beginning of the Vascilian Affair. Please check my statements in the "Unholy Pact" thread. Even before all this people began to invade each other, I placed 70000 troops and 1000 tanks in the trenches of the border.

OOC:

So we'd be assuming that the essentially pro-Vascilian interlopers from Eniqcir would have been fired on as they commenced deployment within the Aelosian border, yes?

Tannelorn, your brother says that it's fine if you continue posting, though he'll be off till the 27th. The war goes on- we just have to be careful with doing things that would affect him directly.

On the subject of your x-ray gun things- its not the fact that they'd be out of range of me, its the fact that they'd actually have Mars between thier guns & my fleet.

& I don't mind the Morgenraetes moving to attack me so fast- I do mind that your post gives me NO chance to respond to anything. You launch fighters into the midst of my formation. You fire missiles at me, then launch more fighters into the midst of my formation, & then luanch MORE fighters into my formation. Hell, you even assume what sort of damage I do to you. You're autoplaying me, man. You're assuming too much & you're moving too fast.

So we correct things- for the purposes of the http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2425583#2425583 we assume that what you did was move your 350 unengaged ships to engage me & sent a wave of <insert number here> Morgeneraetes ahead to intercept. We can save the missiles, the second wave of fighters & the third wave of fighters for later posts- when you've got me back in your sights & when I've had a chance to frickin' do something.

I mean, in YOUR post you've got my "fighters" shooting down some of your Morgenraets- I haven't even LAUNCHED fighters. Hell, I don't even HAVE fighters, not in the conventional sense.

So, when I make my response to you in this ( http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2425583#2425583 ) thread, we rewind your post a little- the Morgenraetes are screaming towards my fleet & the 350 Tannelornian ships are moving to engage.

This seems to me to be the best, fairest & most "proper" (in RPing terms) way of fixing things- there's no reason why you should object, I don't think, so if you'll just post your fleet composition (the 350 vessels that will be involved in the battle, what they're carrying, what their classification is...) in this thread- http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2425583#2425583 -then things'll be all set up for Auman when he gets back after Boxing Day.

Me & you, mean while, can get some sort of RP going ourselves in another thread, which won't require Auman's involvement right now, a link to which I will post shortly.

OOC:

So we'd be assuming that the essentially pro-Vascilian interlopers from Eniqcir would have been fired on as they commenced deployment within the Aelosian border, yes?

Although we were in friendly relations with Eniqcir, if they entered Aelosian territory, or assaulted the Aelosian positions they would be fired, of course. The only way to "deploy" troops inside Aelosian territory is passing near the entrenched 70.000 troops, who would fired against them.

OOC:

Well then, it looks like some new life'll be breezing into the thread.

By the way Tannelorn, one last time- how many Knights/Nacht Wanzers/whatever were taken out by the orbital strike?

OOC: Ahem, the Aelosian border is swarming with Aelosian troops since the beginning of the Vascilian Affair. Please check my statements in the "Unholy Pact" thread. Even before all this people began to invade each other, I placed 70000 troops and 1000 tanks in the trenches of the border.
Sorry if I was unclear. I didn't mean to imply that you hadn't deployed any troops, just that they hadn't crossed the border into Vascillia. Which they didn't, correct? Just stayed in the trenches on your side of the border?

OOC:
So we'd be assuming that the essentially pro-Vascilian interlopers from Eniqcir would have been fired on as they commenced deployment within the Aelosian border, yes?

Although we were in friendly relations with Eniqcir, if they entered Aelosian territory, or assaulted the Aelosian positions they would be fired, of course. The only way to "deploy" troops inside Aelosian territory is passing near the entrenched 70.000 troops, who would fired against them.
'Cept that I didn't deploy into Aelosia. Just put two Wellstones (which would be undetectable anyway) in place to guard the border in case Vascillia was stupid enough to actually attack Aelosia, or vice versa.

OOC: Ahem, the Aelosian border is swarming with Aelosian troops since the beginning of the Vascilian Affair. Please check my statements in the "Unholy Pact" thread. Even before all this people began to invade each other, I placed 70000 troops and 1000 tanks in the trenches of the border.
Sorry if I was unclear. I didn't mean to imply that you hadn't deployed any troops, just that they hadn't crossed the border into Vascillia. Which they didn't, correct? Just stayed in the trenches on your side of the border?

OOC:
So we'd be assuming that the essentially pro-Vascilian interlopers from Eniqcir would have been fired on as they commenced deployment within the Aelosian border, yes?

Although we were in friendly relations with Eniqcir, if they entered Aelosian territory, or assaulted the Aelosian positions they would be fired, of course. The only way to "deploy" troops inside Aelosian territory is passing near the entrenched 70.000 troops, who would fired against them.
'Cept that I didn't deploy into Aelosia. Just put two Wellstones (which would be undetectable anyway) in place to guard the border in case Vascillia was stupid enough to actually attack Aelosia, or vice versa.

OOC: Auman troops already entered the border...in first place.

And yes, I didn't crossed the border, as a matter of fact after firing few barrages against the Auman forces the Aelosian troops withdrew even deeper into Aelosian territory. They first stayed on the trenches in my side of the border and then fired upon the Auman assault and retreated.

And about the wellstones, well. If they're not weapons or something, nobody shooted them down. And beware, nothing is "undetectable". However I'll assume your wellstones weren't detected by my forces and they still stood at the border. But What about the Auman tanks and the three million Aumanian soldiers entering my soil?. Isn't that an invasion?. Looked like they were stupid enough.

OOC:

Recap of Events

Tor Yvresse stages an attack on Auman itself from within Aelosia, Vampires flying a bunch of people over the Vascilian Defence Wall & suchlike.

Auman is annoyed. Shoots at the attacking Eldar in the sky &...a big mob of Aumanii soldiers & armour that are part of some rapid reaction framework or something move against Aelosia directly, from where the Eldar staged their attack, thinking their attackers' hosts just as guilty as them.

Tannelornian forces from Hellespontos, after a gruelling forces march, also move to invade Aelosia, & in orbit some supporting Naval Marine Frigates (I'm not finding the numbers, no time) move into Aelosian space (emboldened because I think Aelosia overlooked this). Please note that there are 250 Tannelornian vessels nearby in low orbit over Hellespontos, in case you decide to attack his Marine Frigates.

Aelosia does this, understandably annoyed:

As the troops from Tannelorn and Auman approached the border, they were hammered with the fire of hundreds of heavy weapon emplacements and consistent and sustained artillery fire. Falcon Taks provided cover and fired their weapons too, until the enemy approached too much. The casualties were minimal, after all the Vascilians were assaulting troops with heavy cover. However, they were just 70.000 troops, not enough to bring down the swarm of Vascilian troops. One thousand Gravtanks opened fire trying to stop the assault, but it wasn't enough.

But suddenly, when the Vascilian troops approached, all the Aelosian line turned in perfect formation and withdraw with order, abandoning their positions and retreating deeper into Aelosian territory. The trenches were now empty and defenceless...

Note that the above attack by Aelosia occurs BEFORE the Vascilians have crossed the border.

Eniqcir, then, shouldn't just assume things about what the Vascilians will do & dodge around OOCly, & should instead post IC. What are you doing, pal? Wellstones opening up on the Aumanii & Tannelornians as well? Sitting there & looking stupid.

'Cos you've fixed itup so that you've gotta do SOMEthing, one way or the other :wink: .

~Sauron, stirring the pot

Of course any attempt of invade Aelosian airspace in the orbit of Mars will be met by the fleet guarding the zone, composed of:

1 Void Stalker Class Flagship
5 Shadow Class Cruisers
5 Eclipse Class Cruisers
10 Aurora Class Light Cruisers
10 Solaris Class Light Cruisers
40 Hellebore Class Frigates
40 Aconyte Class Frigates
80 Nightshade Class Destroyers
80 Hemlock Class Destroyers

Also the ShadowPrince is directing two Wrath Fleets in that direction, composed in the same manner. Of course, as the reinforcements are the personal fleet of the Aelosia's ruler they're better armed and trained, the elite of the Aelosia's navy. In the ships are boarded the best Aelosian troops, including many regiments of WraithGuards, Mechs and the like.

I suggest the Auman and Tannelorn troops overrun the Aelosia's defence forces before the reinforcements arrive, because if they don't, they will we in deep troubles.

My tongue refuse to say this, but I'm going to say it, thanks to Sauron for the info. (Elves thanking Sauron, this world is very, very twisted :D )

OOC: Auman troops already entered the border...in first place.

And yes, I didn't crossed the border, as a matter of fact after firing few barrages against the Auman forces the Aelosian troops withdrew even deeper into Aelosian territory. They first stayed on the trenches in my side of the border and then fired upon the Auman assault and retreated.
My original point was that none of that should've happened. It all just went along as if the Wellstones weren't there before I had the chance to RP out what they were doing. Heck, both sides totally ignored an announcement of the Apocalypse! Auman's post assumed far too much and just said "we entered Aelosia and siezed a lot of land", which didn't give me any chance to play out what was happening on the way, which would've involved all of the Vascillian forces being told and/or forced to leave Aelosia alone, and the Aelosian bombardment would then never have occurred.

And beware, nothing is "undetectable". However I'll assume your wellstones weren't detected by my forces and they still stood at the border. But What about the Auman tanks and the three million Aumanian soldiers entering my soil?. Isn't that an invasion?. Looked like they were stupid enough.
They are undetectable if you don't know to look for them. The only way they'll show up is as an X-ray or gamma ray shadow, or, if they're deployed long enough without maintenance, a faint IR glow. And the Aumani shouldn't be there, precisely because they were stupid and that's what the Wellstones were there to prevent. The whole Vascillian attack didn't give me a chance to respond.

In short, we need to rewind, 'cuz there is no way that Vascillian attack could've ever taken place, and thus Aelosia should still be on Vascillia's side.

OOC: Auman troops already entered the border...in first place.

And yes, I didn't crossed the border, as a matter of fact after firing few barrages against the Auman forces the Aelosian troops withdrew even deeper into Aelosian territory. They first stayed on the trenches in my side of the border and then fired upon the Auman assault and retreated.
My original point was that none of that should've happened. It all just went along as if the Wellstones weren't there before I had the chance to RP out what they were doing. Heck, both sides totally ignored an announcement of the Apocalypse! Auman's post assumed far too much and just said "we entered Aelosia and siezed a lot of land", which didn't give me any chance to play out what was happening on the way, which would've involved all of the Vascillian forces being told and/or forced to leave Aelosia alone, and the Aelosian bombardment would then never have occurred.

And beware, nothing is "undetectable". However I'll assume your wellstones weren't detected by my forces and they still stood at the border. But What about the Auman tanks and the three million Aumanian soldiers entering my soil?. Isn't that an invasion?. Looked like they were stupid enough.
They are undetectable if you don't know to look for them. The only way they'll show up is as an X-ray or gamma ray shadow, or, if they're deployed long enough without maintenance, a faint IR glow. And the Aumani shouldn't be there, precisely because they were stupid and that's what the Wellstones were there to prevent. The whole Vascillian attack didn't give me a chance to respond.

In short, we need to rewind, 'cuz there is no way that Vascillian attack could've ever taken place, and thus Aelosia should still be on Vascillia's side.

Why don't you think in something smart like...your Wellstones suffered some kind of failure due to the overcharge of radiation from the Aelosian heavy artillery platforms nearby. I never like to rewind in a rp. You can say you already repaired them after them shutted down for a while just in the moment the Vascilians attacked...

By the way, Aelosia will never ever help the Vascilians against Tor Yvresse, never. aLthough our position was neutral, now it changed to hostile against the Vascilians, because they attacked us without provocation. From now on, whatever it happens, Vascilia will be our enemy.

Why don't you think in something smart like...your Wellstones suffered some kind of failure due to the overcharge of radiation from the Aelosian heavy artillery platforms nearby. I never like to rewind in a rp. You can say you already repaired them after them shutted down for a while just in the moment the Vascilians attacked...
Becuase that wouldn't be smart. The Wellstones are the most advanced thing I have, which is why there are only five of them. They're intended to sneak stealthily through battlezones, and be able to stand up to any conditions that they would meet in those battlezones. And their manner of invisibility makes damage by radiation extremely improbable, especially if that radiation isn't powerful enough to have killed off all of your troops in the area. Besides, even if they did break down, dontcha think there would've been some kind of reaction to a loud declaration of impending Apocalypse without any apparent source? I don't especially like rewinding either, but there isn't much else to do unless you want this to escalate way beyond what it already has.

By the way, Aelosia will never ever help the Vascilians against Tor Yvresse, never. Although our position was neutral, now it changed to hostile against the Vascilians, because they attacked us without provocation. From now on, whatever it happens, Vascilia will be our enemy.
Because they attacked you. Right. But the attack has no reason to be valid IC. It was a bad call on the part of Auman's player, not the Auman Character, something that never would've actually happened.

Because they attacked you. Right. But the attack has no reason to be valid IC. It was a bad call on the part of Auman's player, not the Auman Character, something that never would've actually happened.
OOC:

I won't attack Tor Yvresse because he are one of my closest allies and steadfast friends in this game. I will never, ever attack them, no matter what. Haven't you think why all Aelosian technology is Eldar technology?.

About the other thing, well, if you want to rewind, so be it. I will wait until Auman answers this situation. But I must remind you that now I'm a really pissed off elven maiden because you played all this circus without even send me a TG. I don't like to be invaded without even knowing it, so it will be difficult to be rational with me at this point of the thread, after so many people broke so many rules of RPing etiquette. How is that I must thank Sauron for warning me of what was happening?.

I won't attack Tor Yvresse because he are one of my closest allies and steadfast friends in this game. I will never, ever attack them, no matter what. Haven't you think why all Aelosian technology is Eldar technology?.
I don't expect you to. I expect you to remain neutral at least until a more valid reason for disliking Vascillia comes up.

I don't like to be invaded without even knowing it,
Yet another reason to rewind.

OOC: Then I'll wait for Auman and Tannelorn to post their reasons to attack and their decision to rewind.

Believe me, with the Dark Eldar of Raem roaming the Martian countryside, Melkor himself appearing in Mars and everything, I don't want many enemies. I wanted peace with Vascilia because I don't want Uruk Hai playing in my backyard. And of course Raem is my nemesis, and we will engage them at the first opportunity, but if someone launch three million soldiers against your border, you need to do something about it...

I can rewind, but I need the Auman and Tannelorn responses...

OOC I need to offer an apology. Over the weekend I had a Wedding to attend in London. after I got back Sunday I was, I hope you understand exhausted, and recovering. Then Monday was my Birthday, and so in the way that has become standard over the last three years I celebrated by goint to see ROTK with my Father. (A Fantasy fanatic, who has been waiting most of his life for the movies...) Then I returned home to race out again... The Pub beckoned, I got drunk. too Drunk to post, I learnt my lesson from the last war :wink:

Anyway Catch up time and summary of what I have been doing is forthcoming.

OOC I need to offer an apology. Over the weekend I had a Wedding to attend in London. after I got back Sunday I was, I hope you understand exhausted, and recovering. Then Monday was my Birthday, and so in the way that has become standard over the last three years I celebrated by goint to see ROTK with my Father. (A Fantasy fanatic, who has been waiting most of his life for the movies...) Then I returned home to race out again... The Pub beckoned, I got drunk. too Drunk to post, I learnt my lesson from the last war :wink:

Anyway Catch up time and summary of what I have been doing is forthcoming.

I need to appologize too.

Sorry.

I got fed up with the whole godmoding thing with Lost Americans/Sentient Peoples/Ain. I still am.

Anyhow, I have been avoiding NS, and that is something I should not do to my fellow players. So again, sorry.

I probably won't play much for the next couple weeks as I wallow in self pitty, but I'll try to meet my obligations.

Ahh one more thing I have a confession to make. I deliberatly ignored Space. The whole reload and repair etc in 30 Mins, a 30 Minute turn around for his fleet was stupid, and I am sick of space wars. Everytime I see do one it seems to turn into a 'How many missiles can I fire off' fest. I wanted to concentrate on the ground war for a while, and just assume the space war was a basic, no surprises affair, the fleets engaging each other, and after a while we could post casualties. For that I apologise, it was, it turned out far more important. And I will make up for lost time soon.

BUT I will NOT accept the Bloody stupid I used the Webgate attack idea ever!!

Well done you have just got lost, did your armies include Psyckers when they entered the Web, since the NS web has a slight Deamon infestation... Without Psyckers the Deamons chow down, Psyckers drive them off... I have roleplayed this myself many a time, and have always sent Warlocks with any guests in the Web...

So I am expecting a report of, sir our troops have well ended up on some far distant world and don't know how to get home...

Edit removed an uneeded and potentially slowing Rant. The second one is key through. Near the end of the last war Meny came to me and asked to be allowed access to the Web, I agreed and began teaching her how to navigate. Her lessons have not yet ended, although are nearing that point.

Now remember since meny was being shown how to use the Web, you can imagine her people learnt a lot faster than some one elses. I mean imagine for a second navigating the Web, you make a wrong turn and endup elsewhere in the Galaxy, you backtrack, and end up really lost. Now imagine you had teams of researchers going into the Web trying to find the way around... those teams very rarely if ever comeback to report their findings... Without guides it would take.... Several hundred years to navigate the web...

Now add the Hostile forces you would encounter, the Deamons, the Eldar, the Harlequins... and you realise that it is almost impossible. 100% Impossible since Tannelorn never even ROLEPLAYED the research or the finding of the webgates, never told an Eldar player OOCly, that he was doing this. It peshes me off for a reason the Web being hard yto navigate and find is the point of the Web, the Dark Eldar are hard to get to in Commaragh because to be honest even I am not sure where it is in the Web... In short the fact that Tannelorn finding and researching Webgates without once Roleplaying it... means I am ignoring it. I said as much on the Mars boards and I am saying as much now.

IC

The last stand, around 3000 Aspect warriors stood packed defending to the Death a Warlock Titan and a Phantomn Titan. Too far away now from the larger Webgates these two ancient weapons now stood poised to fight to the last.

As the Enenmy approached them the small band smiled and began the chant, exarchs stood proudly amongest the Shrine warriors, and extolled them to the heights of praise. They would not surrender, they would bring death to their foes before the end.

Khailia-Mensha-Khaine

The guns of the Titan's began to open fire, ripping huge gorges of rock from the soil throwing dirt and mud around and, hopefully ripping apart the enemy as they came upon them. Still their foes advanced, as they neared the small group of Dark Reapers, opened fire raining Plasma Missiles down upon the foes, and still they knew it would not be enough. Now the hail of Shurikan foire opened up, the enemy now so close that they where in range of the Dire Avengers. Every burst fired a Hundred rounds of that deadly projectile into the heart of their foes, but still it was not enough...

With a Roar the Banshees and the Scorpions struck, the total group of 1000 Charged at their foes as they came ever closer, and furious last effort, even as behind them the crack and collapse of the Phantomn Titan could be heard, the mammoth Form fell hurtling into the Eartjh, shaking the surronding areas, as men fell from ythe shock, a single crack appeared that than throughout the Titan and a piecering scream that would likely haunt the dreams of the survivors for ever. The scream of a Thousend Souls suddenly torn from safty and stolen away by a darkness beyond human understanding...

The Cry of rage that filled the hearts of the Eldar drove them further on, to higher levels. But the enemy had them out numbered and it was only a matter of time. Slowly but as surely as any other event the Eldar began to fall, not a one asked for mercy or medical aid, every last one of them fought on intil the last. The Charge of the Howling banshees and the Scorpions made Mars red once more, as the Earth ran red with blood, both of Man, and of Eldar, but the Eldars numbers soon becan to fall short.

As the last of the Dire Avenger's ammo ran empty and the Shurikan rifles began to become nothing more than Clubs, they drew their swords, and joined the charge, and fought on...

the last machine or man of the Eldar to fall was the Warlock titan itself. But not this machine the death that befell it's sister, as a last act of diffiance and to keep safe the technology of the Phanotmn and Warlock, the Engines where overloaded. The area became caught up in the malestrpom of energy unleashed.

The Eldar pocket had been finnaly defeated.

OOC Why not the avatar. Simple I disagree with the reasoning behind the Avatar staying. The avatar is not Khorne, part of Khaine is tactics, he loves war, and is bloodthirsty... but he knows and understands that sometimes a withdrawal works. He is a General not a barbarian.

Okay in space I will say I have lost 1 Pack and a Carrier to catch up with the current events.

On the ground I need to know some stuff... but assume I will continue my adavnce iover the wall.. but in fairness I lost 100 of the Craft Ferrying toops, cutting the total forces being deployed behind tthe wall down by 3000.

I hope that will suffice to be caught up with events while I was distracted by RL.

IC

The last stand, around 3000 Aspect warriors stood packed defending to the Death a Warlock Titan and a Phantomn Titan. Too far away now from the larger Webgates these two ancient weapons now stood poised to fight to the last.

As the Enenmy approached them the small band smiled and began the chant, exarchs stood proudly amongest the Shrine warriors, and extolled them to the heights of praise. They would not surrender, they would bring death to their foes before the end.

Khailia-Mensha-Khaine

The guns of the Titan's began to open fire, ripping huge gorges of rock from the soil throwing dirt and mud around and, hopefully ripping apart the enemy as they came upon them. Still their foes advanced, as they neared the small group of Dark Reapers, opened fire raining Plasma Missiles down upon the foes, and still they knew it would not be enough. Now the hail of Shurikan foire opened up, the enemy now so close that they where in range of the Dire Avengers. Every burst fired a Hundred rounds of that deadly projectile into the heart of their foes, but still it was not enough...

With a Roar the Banshees and the Scorpions struck, the total group of 1000 Charged at their foes as they came ever closer, and furious last effort, even as behind them the crack and collapse of the Phantomn Titan could be heard, the mammoth Form fell hurtling into the Eartjh, shaking the surronding areas, as men fell from ythe shock, a single crack appeared that than throughout the Titan and a piecering scream that would likely haunt the dreams of the survivors for ever. The scream of a Thousend Souls suddenly torn from safty and stolen away by a darkness beyond human understanding...

The Cry of rage that filled the hearts of the Eldar drove them further on, to higher levels. But the enemy had them out numbered and it was only a matter of time. Slowly but as surely as any other event the Eldar began to fall, not a one asked for mercy or medical aid, every last one of them fought on intil the last. The Charge of the Howling banshees and the Scorpions made Mars red once more, as the Earth ran red with blood, both of Man, and of Eldar, but the Eldars numbers soon becan to fall short.

As the last of the Dire Avenger's ammo ran empty and the Shurikan rifles began to become nothing more than Clubs, they drew their swords, and joined the charge, and fought on...

the last machine or man of the Eldar to fall was the Warlock titan itself. But not this machine the death that befell it's sister, as a last act of diffiance and to keep safe the technology of the Phanotmn and Warlock, the Engines where overloaded. The area became caught up in the malestrpom of energy unleashed.

The Eldar pocket had been finnaly defeated.

OOC Why not the avatar. Simple I disagree with the reasoning behind the Avatar staying. The avatar is not Khorne, part of Khaine is tactics, he loves war, and is bloodthirsty... but he knows and understands that sometimes a withdrawal works. He is a General not a barbarian.
OOC:

Oh, Aelosian troops were going to rescue that pocket of Yvressian troops with a powerful charge. Nevermind, they died like heroes and their deeds will be remembered for ages... :( :cry:

OOC:

Ok, since the war just kinda ended I'll post my final casualties and what not...The war was really pointless, yes Vascilian military units are always accompanied by psykers and I wont accept the fact that your Homeland is untouchable...the means of arriving are irrelavent, the Tannelornians still attack somehow and that is the bare facts.

Anyway, its late here so Im not in much of a narrative mood...well, back in time we go!

IC:

Overlord had been able to see the battle from his throne room, the highest peak of the hives of Vascilia city, even personally coordinating by eye in some instances. "Tor Yvresse seems to be retreating...hopefully when they return home the Tannelornians will be there to hammer out the exact terms of surrender, Honestly men, I dont care if they stay on Mars...just as long as they go away and never come back." Marduk was speaking to just two of his staff, the majority being deployed with their divisions there were only a few left to help Marduk in the defence of Vascilia City. "Rosiro...what are the casualty figures starting to look like?" Senior officer Rosiro stepped forward and stomped his foot, reading from memory the latest figures "There is an estimated 250,000 casualties lord! mostly from the Infantry." Marduk sighed dejectedly, "Why do you think that is Rosiro? be honest." Rosiro looked shocked as to Marduks almost cordial behavior "I think its because of the training level sir, the majority of the Generals think of the men as pawns instead of instruments...meat for the grinder if you will. You come from the Armoured Divisions sire, you probably dont understand." Marduk looked away, tears were freely flowing down his face. "Such a waste isn't it...Rosiro, can you get me a list of all the names and a dataslate, I have a lot of mail to attend to." Rosiro clicked his heels "Yes sir!"

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-300,000 Casualties; 2 Divisions rendered Combat ineffective.
-1240 Pieces of Armour.
-6000 pieces of Artillery.
-450 Space Craft; Including the battle carrier "Vascilian Wrath"

OOC:

Aumanii troops never crossed the border...just initiated an assault. When I say that its only to let the other player have time to spot it and counter.

The reasoning for the invasion of Aelosia is simple. Webway portals. Tor Yvresse can move troops all across the border of Vascilia in the blink of an eye. If Vascilian troops can move in and deactivate/seize any web way portals on the border than it would give us more time to spot any possible assault on Vascilia as the would have to move from Hellespontos or Tor Yvresse mars which is some several thousand kilometres away.

So here it is in point form:

-Attack is launched from Aelosia.
-Vascilia see's Aelosian Web way portals as a threat to sovreignty.
-Vascilia moves into position to disable the portals, cutting off Tor Yvresse.
-Meanwhile Tannelorn assaults Tor Yvresse holdings when the majority of their Armed forces away in a "Check Mate" maneuver, it is hoped that this operation would force Tor Yvresse to give up their pointless war on Vascilia(TY said 80% were attacking Auman, leaving 20% to protect the Craftworld and TY Mars. I dont believe in this "I can attack you, but you cant attack me" garbage)
-Vascilia scraps the assault as Melkor moves into Hellespontos.
-Coalition Troops move to seperate the warring factions of Auman and Tor Yvresse, effectively stopping the war in its tracks except for the majority of long range bombardment.

OOC:

Ahem, I think you missed the part of....

"Three millions soldiers charged against the Aelosian line and were trapped inside a pocket of black Napalm fire by an Aelosian bombardment, cutting their retreat..."

I need to know what happened to those three million men. I have only almost 100,000 soldiers in the area, but unless you want to make them retreat through a wall of fire, they can't move back to your territory, and they're being bombarded by Aelosian artillery fire...please read my posts.

OOC:

Ahem, I think you missed the part of....

"Three millions soldiers charged against the Aelosian line and were trapped inside a pocket of black Napalm fire by an Aelosian bombardment, cutting their retreat..."

I need to know what happened to those three million men. I have only almost 100,000 soldiers in the area, but unless you want to make them retreat through a wall of fire, they can't move back to your territory, and they're being bombarded by Aelosian artillery fire...please read my posts.

OOC:

Ok, than what of the storm assault? just drop it the wars over...my troops never crossed the border just approached it.