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Ahh, there we go. But I think you've been underplaying the losses those HSVs would suffer. One missile of just about any kind you could kiss it goodbye. They should be dropping like flies in missile attacks, especially since has they have ZERO point defense and virtually no missile defense at all.

Actually, I'm leaving tomorrow to go skiing, and I'll be gone for a week (until the 27th), so Ferrussia, if could just keep it paused, that'd be excellent.

THIS ROLEPLAY IS NOW OFFICIALLY PAUSED

As per Ferrussia's request, this roleplay will be paused until he returns - approximately one week from today.

Since he hasn't posted today, I am assuming he does not have internet access.

Corpia Scotia is also on vacation and will return in one week.

ALL WAR RELATED DISCUSSION SHOULD BE PLACED IN THIS THREAD ONLY UNTIL THEY RETURN.

Thanks.

Fyreheart, I am going to post my 'catch ups', for Goth-Franc, and you. In my nation.
By the way, this is hard. I am a writer(though not paid for it yet) and keeping up with my own story line, trying to adapt to others and still trying to stay fresh and entertaining is very difficult.
It occured to me to check the terms of service, because Max, could get alot of material out of these forums if you give up your intellectual property rights according ott terms of service.
Anyway my hats off to you all, this is not a 'game' for dimwits.

Scratch that.
I had posted one to to Goth, a good one damnit. and it didnt take. it was frickingg long with a lot of dialog.
I am pissed. Glad it is paused for right now.

Yeah, uh, Skib remember to respond to my request about putting troops in your nation, this will be my second time asking...

I am sorry Rukemia, I didnt catch the first one.

Skib,

I am pissed that your post to me did not take either. I am practicaly drooling in anticipation to read your responses to the situation. Oh well.

I never thought about Max taking material for his books from these posts......

Goth-Franc

Btw Skib, my troops(300k)are coming in too. Hope you don't mind. :-D

they will be shot down. :roll:

Goth, I was trying to avoid getting to much into interaction between too many individuals, however the situation with your troops created such a good setting for establishing cultural lines i couldnt resist .
And $^&#%@%^@#$^!!!!! didnt take, it took me a half an hour to write the frickin thing.

I need to start saving to notebook before i post so i have a ready copy(so i have material).

Diminix, it is nothing personal I made posts to other nations that no further troops would be met as anything other then invaders.
Remember I country as small as mine doesnt 5million foreign soldiers stomping around. no country would.
However you could try to land anyway and we can see how that plays out. :shock:

Skib

I know what you mean, all individual situations created! But they are so realistic and entertaining, I can see why your a writer.

Anyhow, I hope you can rewrite what you lost. I am excited.

We really did create an intersting scenario. It is almost like a war of culture now. I must say, if you want to change the name of town I picked for the III and V Corps union, go ahead. Like I said, I am not to up on my Gaelic.

I think it makes such an interesting story that I Corps is cooperating with your troops, and III is combatting you civs. It reminds me almost of Napoleon's invasion of Spain so he could get to Portugual.

Goth

Hehe... just letting y'all know I'm still here. Will mine the straits when RP resumes. CSJ, I'll contact you via TG about your IC transport needs.

Hehe... just letting y'all know I'm still here. Will mine the straits when RP resumes. CSJ, I'll contact you via TG about your IC transport needs.
Oh, I've been making plans for the resumption of the RP myself. Once it resumes, I'll be sending out my first wave of reinforcements. That'll be my entire 6th Army (two armored divisions, backed up by one mechanized infantry, one heavy infantry, 4 infantry divisions, and associated combat and combat service support - about 300,000 total personnel, with another 50k that won't be going)
Escorts will be two bombardment squadrons, 2 cruiser squadrons, 4 destroyer squadrons, 3 frigate squadrons, 2 LCS squadrons, 2 corvette squadrons, 2 missile boat squadrons, and 2 submarine squadrons. They'll link up with the carriers when they reach the Mediterranean.

Anyone wishing to send sealift assets should direct their ships to Port Racice, Port Arthur, Edo Bay, Turtle Bay, Wayside V, Rosenheim, or Tsukuba. Those are where our forces are forming up for departure (yes, we have an abundance of large seaports). Airlift assets should go to Rosenhiem or Port Racice, as those are the closest. Remember, anything sent will take some time to get there and back. I'm in Indonesia, so I'm pretty far away.

Hey guys.

I'm going to be taking a break. I've come down with the flu, and it's kicking my ass.

Hopefuly I'll be okay when Ferrussia and CS get back.

flu evil...cant take much more...shoot me.
My wife just had surgery, i have a 6 week old baby, and three other kids.
the flu is like a giant hammer that has smashed my mind and my will. I feel your Pain Fyre.
melodramtic aint I?

flu evil...cant take much more...shoot me.
My wife just had surgery, i have a 6 week old baby, and three other kids.
the flu is like a giant hammer that has smashed my mind and my will. I feel your Pain Fyre.
melodramtic aint I?

Quite. But it's okay. I exaggerate it too, so my girlfriend will pamper me. :D

Upon the resumption of the real thread, I shall be entering in on Fyreheart's side. I shall use this "delay" of the paused RP to ICly call up the troops to active duty, set out to see, yadda yaddda yadda.... [Don't worry, I'm not trying to pull anything cheap, I'll still allow time for them to move and stuff, but this saves me the trouble of going from declaring war to getting ready for it.]

As for the HSV, Fyreheart missed some important details [as I am the one that modified it for our NS use.], the weaponry specs are as follows:

80 VLS tubes
6 quad (that's racks of 4) Harpoon missile launchers
4 Sea Sparrow missile (SAM missiles) launchers
2 CIWS guns
Several (let's say 2 along each rail) flare launchers - for defensive purposes.

It is able to hold a Sea Hawk on the back of it.

[Before anyone may say that this is godmodding, I would like to point out that the specs i have given the "militarized" version of the HSV are still vastly under what it could hold. I suggest before any attacks are made, www.globalsecurity.org is consulted for the actual specs of this "ferry." To preempt any take-outs on the VLS system, if you look at teh schematics for the HSV you will see that the ship can in fact hold 4 or 5 helicopters within itself, thus I have replaced that open area with missile tubes. Once again, I do not expect a problem, just preempting any argument.]

Alright, here's my situation.

Due to weather problems, I'm stuck in Utah until Sunday. I've got occasional access to NS, but not frequent enough to really continue my part in the RP until I get home. Also, a lot of the information I need to keep my posts consistent is on my hard drive at home. I may or may not be checking in periodically between now and Sunday afternoon. I'll leave it up to Ferrussia whether he wants to wait for me or go ahead.

Okie dokie...

I'm back! It's 1:30 am, but I'm back!

At any rate, this means the RP should be restarting now. I'm not sure about how to do so, however - this is why I wanted to avoid a moderator lock. If a mod sees this, please kindly unlock the "The walls come tumbling down... (Fyreheart/Ferrussia war)" thread. (too tired to find a link)

At any rate, I'll try to make some IC posts sometime tomorrow morning and/or late afternoon. I'll just have to see how things go. Feel free to begin writing out IC posts in Word or something and copy-paste them in when the thread is unlocked.

Thanks for your patience, everyone! Let's get this thing moving!

Thread unlocked. Welcome back Ferrussia.

I'm home.

*another FORWARD TAG!*

Thank god! I don't even remember where we were at.

Well, I don't know where anyone else was at, really, but as for me:

My naval forces are at standoff range from the Bosphoros, covering the allied retreat and raining missiles down on the ships trying to come through the strait.

My ground forces have dug in at Odessa.

Sorry guys, I am going to be busy for pretty much the whole week, until school starts up which is monday. So just pretend my ships are in port, or bypass them magically...if you don't mind. Cya around.

From the IC war thread.

OOC: I'm posting this under the assumption that since there are Allied ships near Odessa that the Black Sea is relatively clear. If that is not so, then please let me know and I shall edit my post in order to fight through any opposition.

The Black Sea is clear, with the possible exception of enemy submarines and any ships Skibereen might not have sent out at the beginning. My fleet is currently doing its level best to bottle up the enemy fleets in the Sea of Marmara, and as far as I know, it's been successful to this point. Your problem would be getting ships past the enemy fleets and into the Black Sea.

From the IC war thread.

OOC: I'm posting this under the assumption that since there are Allied ships near Odessa that the Black Sea is relatively clear. If that is not so, then please let me know and I shall edit my post in order to fight through any opposition.

The Black Sea is clear, with the possible exception of enemy submarines and any ships Skibereen might not have sent out at the beginning. My fleet is currently doing its level best to bottle up the enemy fleets in the Sea of Marmara, and as far as I know, it's been successful to this point. Your problem would be getting ships past the enemy fleets and into the Black Sea.

Well, no one pushed the issue, so I'm going to assume that I was left alone. I've already conducted carrier air operations, so I think its kind of late to rewind the tape.

Scandanavian States, you were not an origional member of this RP.

This matter must be decided between myself, Coposia, Ferussia, and Skibereen.

You see, when you entered the RP, we were all wrapped up in a pre-planned situation. You spoke of you "alliance" with Fyreheart, and called yourself an Imperialist nation, I tried to work you best into our pre-arraged situation.

It would be best, if you considered these posts invalid and awaited an end to current situations befroe fully stating your purpose here. And then we can all work you in quite happily.

It dosent matter anyway, I have been told by my allies that ICON is dead. None of them want to continue this thread.

All troops of GF will surrender soon.

I will post soon shortlly revealing the death of ICON

Even though it doesn't matter, I have to say something. Gothenburg-Franc, you need to start paying attention better, I said a couple of pages before my first combat action that I intended to enter and whose side we were on. The fact that you admit to being confused just proves to me you did not read my posts properly.

I don't want any bad blood between us, so I apologize to Scandanavian States for not reading your messages properly. It is unfortunate that
I am forced to end this RP, but I had a very dissapointing meeting with ICON last night. None of them apparently are Imperialist anymore.

OOC: SS I never said over odessa, I said approaching odessa, also a fixxed SAM battery has 50km range. Not in range of odessa, but your aircraft dont magically appear there, they have to have a flight path.
Second, since we are being technical,
SAM10 Falconer medium range SAM system
Guidance: Radar directed semi-active homing
Missile length: 4.5m
Motor: solid fuelled rocket
Warhead: HE (directional blast)
Launch weight: 605kg
Speed: mach 3+
Ceiling: 10000m
Max range: 50km
The SAM10 Falconer is a theatre level medium range surface to air missile system capable of highly successfully intercepting fast moving, rapidly appearing aircraft and missiles including cruise missiles.
Just because I play a low tech country, doesnt mean I am uneducated on the subject.
Lastly, I wasnt not addressing just you, I was addressing the people who have been in this RP for weeks, and have managed to do a clear and fine job. It was courtesy to the reality of the RP, sorry I forget some people dont think it is a Good RP when they are expected to count their own potential losses.

OOC: I wasn't belittleling your tech, I was just saying that short of some seriously high-end equipment on your SAMs that they probably wouldn't be able to detect and attack a stealth target. And no, I'm not saying my aircraft are invisible and invincible, it's just that even the best SAMs out there would be put to the test against a target moving that fast, that low, and that hard to see on RADAR under the best of conditions.

This is all a moot point anyway, becase I'm done here.
Actually, older, low-frequency radars have proven to be rather effective at detecting stealth aircraft, which were designed to evade the powerful modern radars of the Soviet Union (ironic, isn't it?). So, if he's a little lower on tech, than it's quite possible for him to detect such aircraft. He could also have a linked radar net, which would be able to use the returns of multiple radar stations to detect them.

As for the aircraft, a stealth aircraft that can achieve, much less maintain, mach 3 at treetop level is a bit of a godmod. Mach 3 at high altitude is extremely difficult to achieve today, and claiming that it can do that at treetop level is going a bit beyond modern technology. To put things a little more into perspective, that's saying that the aircraft is in the range of Mach 4.5+ at high altitude. Heck, Mach 2 at low altitude is even a bit much. Assuming it can do that, which is a big if, the aircraft design would have a rather large RCS. The aerodynamics of such high speed and those of stealth aren't quite that compatible.

Shit, I totally forget about air density and wind resistance when I posted that, but I also wouldn't be so quick to say that about speed either, B-1s can nearly hit Mach 2 at sea level and have a fairly small RCS. But as I said earlier, it's all a moot point because I'm done here.

Shit, I totally forget about air density and wind resistance when I posted that, but I also wouldn't be so quick to say that about speed either, B-1s can nearly hit Mach 2 at sea level and have a fairly small RCS. But as I said earlier, it's all a moot point because I'm done here.
Actually, the B-1B only barely hits Mach 1 I believe at low-altitude. At high altitude, it could have speed much higher than that.

Shame that this RP hasn't went further. This could be an amazing RP (with the setting involved for one).

I know it could have been amazing. I know me and Skib, and Copiosa had some really great ideas. It was a very mulit-dimensional RP, my first to play, but I enjoyed it tremendously. I am sorry to be the one to end the war, but read Rukmenia's telegram to us, and that will show you how the ICON feels about this war. HA. Anyhow, if any of you ever want to get another RP satrted, senda message our way.

I know thats it's kinda messed up that we cut the RP in half so quickly, especially since it was just really getting started, but the leaders of ICON (myself and fyreheart for right now) decided to take a different direction, that in the end will be a smarter move for the both of us. The end result, however, should come out to make an RP that had just as much potential as this one did and all the people who participated in this once can take a part in this one as well if they want to...

Oh yea, Goth, I don't know why this is bothering me so much....but it's Rukemia...not Rukmenia.... :wink:

Nevertheless, this was a great RP experience, definitely on a par with the Amerigan Slave War or any other war you care to use as a yardstick. In all the time I've been here, I don't think I've had a serious war RP that I've enjoyed this much.

Shit, I totally forget about air density and wind resistance when I posted that, but I also wouldn't be so quick to say that about speed either, B-1s can nearly hit Mach 2 at sea level and have a fairly small RCS. But as I said earlier, it's all a moot point because I'm done here.
Actually, the B-1B only barely hits Mach 1 I believe at low-altitude. At high altitude, it could have speed much higher than that.

Shame that this RP hasn't went further. This could be an amazing RP (with the setting involved for one).
Correct
B-1B at altitude: 1610 km/h (Mach 1.51)
B-1B at sea level: 1207 km/h (Mach .99)
Mission speed at 60m (200 ft): 966 km/h (Mach .79)
Many sources however, mistakenly claim that the altitude speed is what it can achieve at sea level, and several others use the wrong formula (treating mach 1 at sea level as 1063 km/h). Both errors provide an approximate speed of Mach 1.2 at sea level.

As I stated, even mach 2 at sea level is extreme. To my knowledge, no operational combat aircraft has ever achieved that. In general, a combat aircraft will have a 40-60% increase in mach number when you switch from low (sea level) to high (35,000 ft) altitude. This accounts for a 20-35% increase in actual speed due to the lower air resistance, which is compounded by the fact that sound is much slower at altitude than sea level (1063 km/h at 35,000 ft compared to 1226 km/h at sea level).

Greetings, it is I again. I was curious, can I rejoin this RP. I am really sorry about having to leave it, but now I have free time again. I will completely understand if you reject this, but yeah, if you are willing, I am back.

If you can find a creative and peaceful niche in the RP (in case you haven't noticed, the war is falling apart), we would certainly love to have you back. Try not to "butt in" to the existing sub-RPs, but if you can create one or make a nonobtrusive entry into one of them, please do so. Sorry it kind of carried on without you, but you're certainly welcome.