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Aid to Falkland Islands

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Talkos
27-11-2003, 16:41
The Dominion of Talkos has stood by too long while unrest and disorder afflicts our neighbors in the Falkland Islands. The plight of those poor and opressed people has touched the citizens of the Dominion, and as such we have decided to aid the suffering populace. In order to establish a free trade zone the Dominion of Talkos has recognized the Falklands as a special administration zone of the Dominion. Hopefully this will relieve them from much of the economic hardships that the population has suffered under years of foreign rule, and would welcome any aid additional in reconstructing the Falklands economy. The Dominion is also about to disembark 2,000 Policemen, detached from the 3rd Marine Division, in order to maintain order during the operation.
27-11-2003, 16:55
Our Special Division Air Force has been flying patrols over the Falklands for many years now, and, to some extent, illegaly as deemed by the British. We also have a single airbase on the main island that has been attacked several times. We applaud your efforts and request some hand in the reconstruction process.

-Archer Van Long
Secretary of Defense
Talkos
27-11-2003, 17:03
The Dominion applauds the Sanchezium offer of assistance. Either economic aid or assistance in the construction of key infrastructure will be looked very kindly upon by the Dominion of Talkos. We are going to be landing units from our Army Corps of Engineers ourselves to start the reconstruction process, but any additional aid is welcome.

We deplore the British actions in having attacked the Sanchezium airbase, it only shows that this incorporation of the Falkland islands for their own good is well past due. We ask if Sanchezium forces can adequately protect their air base during the current changeover, or if they require Dominion troops for assistance.
Swirrhirr
27-11-2003, 17:05
Swirhrirr pledges any support that is asked of by Talkos and/or Sanchezium. Im glad I could help you in advance.
27-11-2003, 17:06
We can hold our own on the air base, and we've sent supplies over. They are in route as we speak. Please feel free to use the airbase as a trade connection.

-Archer Van Long
Secretary of War
Drizzts Army
27-11-2003, 17:07
We can send our 14th Rangers out there if you like
Talkos
27-11-2003, 17:14
The Dominion of Talkos would like to thank both Swirrhirr and Drizzts Army for their offers of assistance. And applauds this outpouring of international assistance for the oppressed people of the Islands, which only signals to us that we should have attempted this relief effort much earlier.

We would like to reiterate that any economic aid will be greatly appreciated, as well as aid in reconstruction of the infrastructure.

Drizzts Army, since we are only facing light resistance we currently don't need much military help, but a small force trained in counter guerilla tactics would be appreciated as advisors for our own forces.
Beth Gellert
27-11-2003, 17:44
(Excuse me for being confused by references to British involvement, but.. oppressed people? They're British too.. Alternate reality where they're not British, but the British are still for some reason involved?)
Talkos
27-11-2003, 17:59
(Excuse me for being confused by references to British involvement, but.. oppressed people? They're British too.. Alternate reality where they're not British, but the British are still for some reason involved?)

OOC: We're assuming a RL situation unless another nation comes forth with a preexisting claim to the islands.


IC: The substantial population of those on the island sharing our South American roots makes the people our close cousins. And we have stood by too long as they have been condemned to policies that oppress the expansion of their economy, and political expression of their citizens. We have watched the unrest and disorder afflicting the Islands, and consider it our duty to liberate them by incorporating them into the Dominion as a special administration region. It is our goal to lift the populace from their current status as little more than a tightly controled and colony, in danger of economic collapse.

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Ramon Nomis
Minister of Foreign Affairs
Beth Gellert
27-11-2003, 18:14
"Ach, the Falklands are self financing excepting for the British provision for defence! Their economy is, as the UN would say 'Thriving'- quite impressive next to the collapsing economies of their Latin American neighbours."

CC N.Kezo was not, it appeared, all that satisfied with proceedings in the south Atlantic.

"Without British military presence the economy would suffer more. I sense vultures sniffing after oil!"

Consul Kezo's words were not drawing much attention in Senate meetings more interested in the situation in distant Dra-pol. There were over seven hundred million Drapoel, and only three thousand Falkland Islanders.. But they were British (with a handful of underhanded Argentinian visitiors attempting to breed the British out of the islands), and Beth Gellens would take notice if it came to blows..


(aaand now I must vanish for a while)
Talkos
27-11-2003, 23:18
The Dominion of Talkos announces the success of the TNS Bring It On carrier battlegroup in securing the approaches to the island. Dominion forces have landed and secured the capital of Port Stanley and are working to set up a Provisional self governing body under it's status as a special administration zone of the Dominion. Talkosian transport planes are now beginning to fly in humanitarian aid and infrastructure equipment to the Sanchezium airbase. Dominion Marine forces report casulties mostly from equipment failures or the occasional friendly fire incident, but no numbers have been confirmed yet. The Dominion has extended a magnanimous offer of deportation to the opressive imperial occupation forces, and expects operations to end soon, paving the way for Engineering Corps to begin the serious reconstruction work.

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Ramon Nomis
Minister of Foreign Affairs
27-11-2003, 23:25
Altaran questions the actions of Talkos. Why the Dominion feels it necessary to occupy a few islands that are inhabited by several farming communities, we cannot fathom. We also object to the people being called 'oppressed' - it is well known that the people of the Falklands are British through and through - it is unlikely that they would accept this 'aid' in good faith.

The Dominion of Talkos illegitimately occupies the territory of the British Government, and as such, Altaran officially condemns the actions taken by Talkos.

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All Glory To The Soviet!
27-11-2003, 23:28
You guy are bringing down a goverment, and destroying a nation, under the cloak of helping the nation. I don't know exactly what you're after but i will send 2000 guerilla warriors to support the resistance on the islands and i will ask my allies to help me.
Talkos
27-11-2003, 23:40
The Dominion of Talkos has historically had close ties to the islands. From the beginning we have felt that the Islands righrfully belonged out of the hands of foreign European occupiers. The Dominion is firmly convinced that its actions are for the best for the Islands, and continues to hope for a peaceful end to the operation.

The Dominion of Talkos condemns and decries the actions of The oppresor as nothing more than terrorist actions. We hope that The oppresor reconsiders their actions, the sending of foreign troops to oppose our Peacekeeping forces will be considered a hostile act, and we will have little choice but to enact economic and political sanctions against The oppresor. Naval patrols have been increased to ensure that no foreign terrorists or distruptions enter the waters, our forces will not fire unless fired upon, but will nonetheless turn back any non-civilian merchant personell with hostile intentions.
27-11-2003, 23:50
very well i will not assist the falklands but i will position my troops nearby and i will ask for help. if anything happens that i may think unjustified i will declare war. The falkland rebellion does not stand alone.
Isselmere
27-11-2003, 23:52
The Kingdom of Isselmere condemns this assault on British sovereignty and the well-being of the Falkland Islanders. Long may the playful sheep gambol about the mine- and bomb-strewn hillocks, and God save Her Britannic Majesty and Her loyal subjects. Please remove your security forces from these lands.

[Being small and ineffectual, Isselmere can do nothing else...]
27-11-2003, 23:53
Opporesor, get your troops off the islands right now. We'll give you two hours. If you do not, we will shoot up your encampments. If you still try to remain part of this conflict, we will be forced to spread to your homeland. Please be reasonable.

-Archer Van Long
Secretary of Defense
28-11-2003, 00:03
(OOC: I think he went to sleep but lets keep talking it up so the thread is alive and waiting for him tomorrow morning :)
28-11-2003, 00:06
No i am not asleep!!! :evil: and i have already told you my forces are standing standby on only 3 hours of the falklands.
Talkos
28-11-2003, 00:09
The Dominion of Talkos commends the responsible actions of The oppresor, avoiding conflict and war on the Islands in of the utmost importance to the continued Peacekeeping and Reconstruction efforts. It also thanks Sanchezium for its aid in opposing additional foreign influences from causing distruption and disturbances in the Falkland Islands special administration zone of the Dominion.
28-11-2003, 00:11
Would the Dominion mind if we sent a diplomatic observation team to the islands? Just to, you know, keep an eye on things.
If you have no bad plans for the islands, you will have no reason to decline.

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All Glory To The Soviet!
28-11-2003, 00:13
Isochronous condems this blatant unauthorized incursion onto foreign territory, and the disgusting violation of British sovereignty. Withdraw all forces immediately, or we will have no choice but to defend Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II's loyal subjects .
28-11-2003, 00:15
Isochronious you can call upon my troops when you wish. if war ist at hand my forces will stand on the right side.
28-11-2003, 00:16
Oppresor,
Sorry for the miscommunication but please, keep slightly back from this. If you even get tied in lightly, your meager 'forces' will be blown away, if not by me, than by another larger country that doesn't believe in your one-day-old experience.

The others,
Our airbase is still open and being guarded. We just sent a fleet of humanitarian aid airplanes with our counterpart of the Red Cross. They will be parked at the airport and can serve as a hospital should you need it.
28-11-2003, 00:19
Isochronous condems this blatant unauthorized incursion onto foreign territory, and the disgusting violation of British sovereignty. Withdraw all forces immediately, or we will have no choice but to defend Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II's loyal subjects .

I can understand your fear. Don't worry, the subjects WILL NOT be harmed and the Queen will not be dishonored. If the general Falkland republic disagrees with this, than I, for one, will book out as soon as possible. All we want is for those living on the islands to be happy. If they want to be British subjects, so be it and we'll move on to other things. Thank you.

-Private note from
Archer Van Long
Secretary of War
Talkos
28-11-2003, 00:19
Would the Dominion mind if we sent a diplomatic observation team to the islands? Just to, you know, keep an eye on things.
If you have no bad plans for the islands, you will have no reason to decline.


The Dominion would welcome a Diplomatic team from Altaran...if you will transport them to our port city of La Peiron we will then provide transportation to the Falkland Islands on the next supply convoy.
28-11-2003, 00:24
Would the Dominion mind if we sent a diplomatic observation team to the islands? Just to, you know, keep an eye on things.
If you have no bad plans for the islands, you will have no reason to decline.


The Dominion would welcome a Diplomatic team from Altaran...if you will transport them to our port city of La Peiron we will then provide transportation to the Falkland Islands on the next supply convoy.

Thank you. We will make the arrangements immediately.

We appreciate your cooperation, and hope that we can assist in bringing this matter to an amicable agreement.
28-11-2003, 00:25
I also would like to get a first hand view. In a few hours, I will fly to the airbase, and, with your agreement, proceed on to have a good look at the rest of the main island.

-Archer Van Long
Secretary of War
Talkos
28-11-2003, 00:26
Isochronous condems this blatant unauthorized incursion onto foreign territory, and the disgusting violation of British sovereignty. Withdraw all forces immediately, or we will have no choice but to defend Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II's loyal subjects .

The Dominion of Talkos has long had claim to the Island, regardless of the Imperialist occupation forces that have for so long opressed the population, which, we believes, longs to be free of them.

(OOC: Be back later, don't kill everyone....)
28-11-2003, 00:30
Isochronous condems this blatant unauthorized incursion onto foreign territory, and the disgusting violation of British sovereignty. Withdraw all forces immediately, or we will have no choice but to defend Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II's loyal subjects .

The Dominion of Talkos has long had claim to the Island, regardless of the Imperialist occupation forces that have for so long opressed the population, which, we believes, longs to be free of them.

(OOC: Be back later, don't kill everyone....)

There is no oppression going on in the Falkland Islands. The greater world community does not recognise the invalid claim of Talkos to the Falklands. It is sovereign British territory and we cannot allow incursions on it to continue to go unchecked.
28-11-2003, 00:33
i am overpowered here sanchezium you are right. i will not go into, and will call back my troops. my nation is not willing to go into open war yet. We are just not ready.
28-11-2003, 00:36
i am overpowered here sanchezium you are right. i will not go into, and will call back my troops. my nation is not willing to go into open war yet. We are just not ready.

Thank you. We admire the quality of your judgement immensely and look forward to doing business with you in the future. Good luck in your travels.
28-11-2003, 00:38
The Holy Empire of Isochronous would like a peaceful diplomatic resolution to this crisis. However, we are not afraid to engage in military combat, and will do so with the full backing of the International Allied Defence Federation (IADF).
Recon Marines
28-11-2003, 01:07
My Specail Forces will help out if war breaks out but I will only be able to send a few because I have many Recon Marines, Green Berets, ect, out in the feild either helping to preserve the peace or fighting terrorists so keep this in mind. Also they are highly trained in all sorts of conflicts.
Talkos
28-11-2003, 03:11
The Dominion of Talkos would like to kindly thank Recon Marines for their offer, but sincerely hopes that it not come to open war, which would be against the interests of all involved parties, and cost untold numbers of lives and money.

The Dominion of Talkos is quite pleased with the Holy Empire of Isochronous' devotion to diplomatic means, and would like to reiterate our own committment to diplomacy. Though we don't believe this to be a crisis, this is a Peacekeeping and reconstruction operation in order to relive the people of the Falkland Islands.

Altaran, we will tell our patrols to expect the arrival of your diplomatic team at our port city of La Peiron, and commend your levelheaded actions in bringing this long overdue action to a mutually beneficial end.

Sanchezium, if your party will wait for Altaran's we will be able to conduct both with a full escort and not need to use more Peacekeeping forces than necessary. Although if you feel it is necessary to begin as soon as possible, we will organize a Peacekeeper escort for your observation party.
Walmington on Sea
28-11-2003, 08:27
The Standard - Invasion!

"Dear old Falkland's not the same,
The dread invasion, well it came,
But no it's not the beastly Hun,
The Goddamn Talko army's come.."

And there the light hearts sank, as the Prime Minister, on finishing his rhyme, delivered to Parliament his proposal for economic sanctions on the rogue state of Talkos, following their invasion of the British overseas territory of the Falkland Islands.

The proposal was ratified without opposition, an almost unprecidented event in Walmingtonian political history. Effective immediatelly, all trade between Walmington on Sea and her empire, and the Dominion of Talkos, is to be suspended.

Deputy PM Arthur Wilson, Minister for Foreign Affairs, reminded the nation of her motto, suaviter in modo, fortiter in re. "Walmington, as evidenced already by her position in the on-going war against the Axis forces, is not one to sit idly by while her sister is besmirched by barbarians such as these. The people of the Falkland Islands enjoy the right to directly elect some eighty percent of their Legislative Council, and as ethnically British subjects of the British crown they do so with pride. Quite how three thousand people in charge of their own twenty million (Walmingtonian) pound economy can possibly be in need of relief by an unconcerned foreign power really is beyond me!" So said an unusually firm Wilson.

Presently there are said to be six Walmingtonian nationals present in the Falkland Islands, four being vacationing retired couples, and two junior representatives of His Walmingtonian Majesty's government, on official business as relates to local shipping lanes.

The Standard has been privy to unconfirmed rumour of Great Walmington's intent to dispatch the navy's newest cruiser, HMWS Hancock to the south Atlantic.
28-11-2003, 11:33
General Graf Karl Von Haushoff sat in his office, idly reading over the Walmingtonian embargo against Talkos. He had other duties to concern himself with, certainly; still, he couldn't help but think that Germany had a golden opportunity to spread the Wallys already thin resources that much closer to the breaking point.
Von Haushoff picked up his phone and dialed into the Reich's Chancellory. He briefly spoke with the Fuhrer's Deputy Foreign Minister, who also agreed that there was an opportunity to be taken.
Later that day, the government of Talkos received a telegram from the Fuhrer's office, expressing his sympathy to their problem and offering them any reasonable aid should diplomacy fail.

OOC- Take that Wally! :P
imported_Rebel Grots
28-11-2003, 11:46
WATCH OUT!
Margaret Thatcher will soon be upon you.
You do not want to annoy the" iron lady"
Talkos
28-11-2003, 14:53
The Dominion of Talkos thanks the efforts of DarknessUponUS, although we hope that diplomacy doesn't fail us, we greatly appreciate the offer of support.

---------------------(Resolution 37.2 of the Talkosian Emergency Council)
Recognizing the belligerent actions of Walmington on Sea,
Deeply regretting that events have forced us to come this far,
Emphasizing our continued desire for a peaceful solution,
Authorizes the use of economic, diplomatic, and other means to resolve the Walmington on Sea situation.
1. Declares a state of embargo between the Dominion of Talkos and Walmington on Sea;
2. Calls upon all responsible nations to join the Dominion of Talkos in the trade embargo,
--a. Notes that all nations that join will be granted "Most Favored" trade status in the eyes of the Dominion,
--b. Thanks in advance all nations that do aid us in countering these belligerent actions by Walmington on Sea;
3. Further encourages all responsible nations to also enact additional diplomatic measures against Walmington on Sea.

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Public Statement by Ramon Nomis, Minister of Foreign Affairs
"Friends, brothers, and sisters, we come before you today to give sad news. The nation of Walmington on Sea has begun a trade embargo, the belligerent action must be anwsered. We call upon the world community to hear our plight, we have begun to enact economic sanctions against that belligerent nations, and call upon all other nations to enact similar policies, those that anwser our call shall be granted 'Most Favored' trade status. We do not stand alone, our mission has been to uplift the people of the Falkland Islands, and eliminate the disorder and harsh conditions upon our nearby neighbors, who we have always thought of as our long lost brothers and sisters. The belligerent actions of Walmington on Sea show them to be nothing more than imperialistic meddlers and such can only justify our actions to free the people of the Islands. Thank you all."


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The Dominion military has declared that the Islands are now totally freed from the imperialist grip, and has stated it's intention to bring across the 2nd Engineering Corps within the next few days to begin the reconstruction. In other news, the Pohjanmaa class minelayer, Stuff It and the Mao Class submarine Take That have left Port Peiron today on extended manuvers. The scores for yesterday's baseball game are......
News Broadcast
28-11-2003, 15:01
Archer Van Long will not be making the trip. He was recently assassinated while on an inspection team bound for Vizzen.

We have just authorized our Navy to mobilize. Wilmington at Sea, we will be watching you securely, as with the rest of the Falklands. Talkos, we've stationed Naval vessels all around the islands should something happen. You have full right to command them. We also have sent three more squadrons to the air base, should you need them.

-Stanley Norse
Secretary of War
Talkos
28-11-2003, 15:04
The Dominion of Talkos thanks Sanchezium for their support of this righteous cause. Although we do hope that your mobilization proves unneccessary, we understand your stake in this.

We would also greatly appreciate it if you join us in the Embargo of Walmington on Sea.
28-11-2003, 15:06
Sanchezian Trade Commission today declared a full embargo on Walmington at Sea as deemed necessary by Johnson Esquebar, Secretary of Trade.
Recon Marines
28-11-2003, 15:09
I will be sending in some Green Berets and Recon Marines as support. Also my 3rd Engineering Corps, and two Minnisotta class destroyers. the Green Berets & Recon Marines will be under my command as well as the 3rd corps. The Minnisotta Class destroyer Dark Avenger is yours to keep. Both destroyers are under your command untill further notice.
Walmington on Sea
28-11-2003, 15:28
Deputy PM Arthur Wilson, WoS Minister For Foreign Affairs, warns Sanchezium, and any other enemies of the free and civilised world, that if they persist in taking hostile and damaging action against the people and property of Walmington on Sea or of Britain, they can expect little better in return.

Owing to their invasion of democratically represented and internatiionally recognised British territory, the Dominion of Talkos is already barred from trading with Walmington on Sea and her empire, consisting of Walmingtonian Mauritania and the Western Sahara, Togo, Sao Tome and Principe, the Cape Colonies, Walmingtonian Swaziland and Lesotho, Waynesia (Zimbabwe), Madagascar, and Ceyloba (Sri Lanka). Others supporting the aforementioned invasion, or partaking in related action against Walmington will risk subjection to similar barriers.

The previously mentioned WoS governmental representatives in Port Stanley have contacted Walmingtonian holiday makers in the islands, making sure of their well being, and are now attempting to discover the fate of the British military garrison and governmental representation on the islands.
28-11-2003, 15:45
The Principality of Whinge pledges to help the oppressed people of the Faulklands with aid in the form of humanitary assistance. We must stand together to fight the rogue states who threaten our democracy! :!:
Talkos
28-11-2003, 16:00
(OOC: Sanchezium, since things are starting to heat up, we would appreciate if you informed us of the current numbers and class of your forces in the area)

The Dominion of Talkos thanks Sanchezium and Recon Marines for their support, and has decreed that both shall be granted "Most Favored" trade status. We would further appreciate if Recon Marines joined with us in our embargo of Walminton on Sea and its colonial empire, no doubt won by imperialistic means. Your offer of troops and ships is greatly appreciated, and no doubt welcome by the Islanders themselves, to be protected from the agressions of Walminton.

The Dominion of Talkos announces that a native provisional government is in place in the special administration zone of the Falkland Islands. And is pleased to announce that the provisional government has declared today to be a holiday, "Liberation Day." Our 2nd Engineering Corps has disembarked and is now beginning the reconstruction of infrastructure.

Disaster. Dominion armed forces were ready to take the bloodless surrender of units of the British garrison when the base was destroyed by terrorist action. General Laone stated earlier, "We were ready to take their surrender, when, KABOOM! It went up in biiiiggg fireball, we think that it's terrorist insurgents." The Dominion of Talkos condemns the actions of the terrorists, and sends its condolences to the relatives of those killed by underhanded terrorist actions. The Dominion is, of course, beginning to search for survivors, if there are any they will be transfered to the Mercy class hospital ship Mendel for treatment. Most of the garrison had already surrendered, and are in custody until they can be either deported to their home nation, or take become a citizen of the Falkland Islands.

The Dominion is still awaiting the arrival of Altaran's diplomatic observation team, although we do suggest that they hurry. If the belligerent actions of Walmington succeed then we may not be able to garantee their safety, and hopes that once the Altaran observers are satisfied Altaran will join us in an embargo of Walmington and her colonies.
Talkos
28-11-2003, 16:01
The Principality of Whinge pledges to help the oppressed people of the Faulklands with aid in the form of humanitary assistance. We must stand together to fight the rogue states who threaten our democracy! :!:

The Dominion of Talkos thanks Whinge for their kind offer of humanitarian aid to the Falklands, their workers are welcome to come and join ours in assisting in the humanitarian aid and relief work. To help and assist the oppressed people of the Falkland Islands has been our goal from the beginning.
Recon Marines
28-11-2003, 16:08
The two Minnisotta Class destroyers are for the main porpuse of the embargo of Walminton on Sea and its colonial empire. I shall also be sending in medivacs of all kinds.
Walmington on Sea
28-11-2003, 16:37
Talkos propaganda has not gone over terribly well in Walmington, where many wonder what further action may be taken. Consular staff are being officially withdrawn from nations involved in the invasion of the Falklands Islands. This is said by the Deputy PM to have been decided in light of the reported destruction of the British garrison in the Falklands coincidentally concurrent with the dominion's invasion.

"They're British!" Said one man interviewed for the Empire Service, in reference to the Falklands Islanders, "How can they be native victims of imperial aggression? They're all immigrants! Who ever heard of aboriginal Falklanders?
"It really is too much that the bloody Talkies claim to have over seen the installation of a democratic administration..as if the Brits aren't the fathers of modern democracy!
"They've had elections!" He spat out his words, wagging his finger at the mic as if anyone could see him. "And you've just over-thrown the resulting administration!"

"Killing outnumbered British soldiers on the eve of their surrender is something I wouldn't even expect from the Bosh!" Said another Walmingtoner asked for his opinions. "Way I hear it, they're pretending the Falklanders are happy to let them stay- they've just murdered their countrymen and over-thrown their elected local government, for God's sake!"

Walmington Street, Great Walmington, WoS

"'The two Minnisotta Class destroyers are for the main porpuse of the embargo of Walminton on Sea and its colonial empire'

"We can't be sure quite for who's benefit these words were reportedly spoken, and Mr.Dunn tells me that SOW is unsure if they were delievered in something called OOC, which we suppose to be something or other Code- in which case we can assume it of no concern, destroy the documentation, and forget we ever heard it. Otherwise, we need to find out what the devil they mean by it.

"Do they suppose to deploy these destroyers in some sort of active blockade of our sea lanes?"

"Oh, Prime Minister!" The Deputy interjected, "Don't you think that's a bit of a leap, sir? After all, we've made no pretention to any aggressive action what so ever."

"Leap, Wilson? These people are supporting the unprovoked invasion of British territory, and the murder of British subjects. We're past leaps and on to.." Mainwaring then struggled with a series of inapropriate metaphors, eventually mumbling to a brief pause, before moving on. "Well, in any event, we shall ignore them of course."

"I just hope our convoy escorts don't mistake them for Germans, if they engage in any ah.. any hostile posturing."
Credonia
28-11-2003, 17:21
The nation of Credonia supports any actions taken by Isochronous towards this situation. They have our full and complete military and financial backing. We will be calling in the members of our alliance to back us up as well.
Talkos
28-11-2003, 17:39
The Dominion of Talkos has processed the British soldiers who were captured or surrendered to our Peacekeeping forces. If tensions were not as high as they are now, we would have offered to transport them back to their home nation, but the situation being as it is, we are asking a third party nation to provide transport for them. We are now allowing unarmed ships and planes to go in and out of the special administration zone of the Falkland Islands after cursory inspections.
Kisnesia
28-11-2003, 19:34
Kisnesian forces, soon to be joined by other members of the IADF, are posturing to support Isochronous. Any action taken against Isochronous's forces would be a grave mistake.

Diplomats have entered the region, and are trying to resolve the situation peacefully.
Talkos
28-11-2003, 19:38
Kisnesian forces, soon to be joined by other members of the IADF, are posturing to support Isochronous. Any action taken against Isochronous's forces would be a grave mistake.

Diplomats have entered the region, and are trying to resolve the situation peacefully.

The Dominion of Talkos reiterates its comittment to a diplomatic situation, and the fact that its Peacekeeping forces are under orders not to fire unless fired upon.
Walmington on Sea
28-11-2003, 20:21
"The Dominion of Talkos reiterates its comittment to a diplomatic situation, and the fact that its Peacekeeping forces are under orders not to fire unless fired upon."

(Ah, so with it common knowledge that your troops will not fire first, we can assume that actually, the islands are still British- because the British garrison has no cause to surender, and thus its troops can continue to go about their business, maintaining British administration of the islands, right?)

Walmington on Sea is pleased, relieved even, to hear that it is not the entire world which has gone mad, as the IADF (ooc:what's that?) appears to be openly objecting to Talkos' aggression. So said the weary Minister For Foreign Affairs.
Talkos
28-11-2003, 20:28
"The Dominion of Talkos reiterates its comittment to a diplomatic situation, and the fact that its Peacekeeping forces are under orders not to fire unless fired upon."

(Ah, so with it common knowledge that your troops will not fire first, we can assume that actually, the islands are still British- because the British garrison has no cause to surender, and thus its troops can continue to go about their business, maintaining British administration of the islands, right?)

Walmington on Sea is pleased, relieved even, to hear that it is not the entire world which has gone mad, as the IADF (ooc:what's that?) appears to be openly objecting to Talkos' aggression. So said the weary Minister For Foreign Affairs.

Walmington can assume that the British garrison surrendered because they discovered the injustices of their imperialistic ways.... As we have stated before, there was light resistance, and actions were taken to ensure the safety of the Falkland Island's populace. The terrorist forces have been quelled, and the Islanders are free to celebrate their liberation.

We are still asking for a third party nation to take the captured soldiers back to their home nations...seeing as several belligerent nations have taken it upon themselves to begin hostile posturing against the humanitarian aid forces of the Dominion.
Walmington on Sea
28-11-2003, 20:42
Walmington can also inform Talkos that the term "imperialistic" is irrelevant to the British occupation of the Falkland Islands. Said islands when first sighted, by the British, were uninhabited. The population of said islands is British and not of other origin. The people are not the conquered or oppressed remains of a prior civilisation, the people you claim to be liberating from the British are the British.

Further, they are not oppressed, a fact evidenced by the fact that as stated earlier they enjoy the right to elect their own legislative branch, members of which serve four year terms before elections come round again. Talkos' invasion has of course caused disruption to this process, and is in fact imperialism in every respect.

Your actions and words are 100% contradictory, such hypocrisy is almost unparalleled!

As an overseas territory of the United Kingdom, the Falkland Islands are part of the home nation of the soldiers you seek to send back to their home nation.

By this logic any nation on earth has the right to walk into Talkos and to liberate its people from their own democratic government (assuming your nation is democratic, in which case you will find that your people are against this invasion).

-Deputy PM A.Wilson, Minister For Foreign Affairs.
Bayorta
28-11-2003, 20:50
Are we forgetting one major thing? Do you really think Great Britain is going to sit back and watch? The Thatcher days may be over, but Britain is stronger that it has ever been and is still ready to completely destroy your forces on the island.

Bayorta condems these horrid actions against Great Britain and hopes they can be resolved peacefully because bloodshed is always a bad thing and you dont want to mess with the UK.
28-11-2003, 21:01
OOC: Sorry I'm late posting ;)

IC: *The luxury passenger ship Glorious Sun sails into the port of La Peiron, and the small diplomatic team disembark.*

*Official Statement to the Dominion Of Talkos*

Our team have reported their arrival in La Peiron, and look forward to commencing their journey to the Falklands. We trust that you will provide them adequate security and accomodation? If you require any funds to pay for these neccessities, then we will be happy to oblige.
On another note, we simply will not join in an embargo against Walmington On Sea, as we have no reason to - though we would ask WoS to consider their actions and not to allow this to erupt into violence.

We eagerly anticipate your reply.

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The Tendency Of Altaran
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All Glory To The Soviet!
28-11-2003, 21:03
Talkos-
Right now we have fourty three attack aircraft, twenty-two heavy bombers (our modified B52's), ten destroyers, and three armed ice breakers that we pulled in off a patrol near the Falklands. We have near five hundred soldiers (including pilots), and just sent over a C130 loaded with the Abrams tank, courtesy of the Socialist Republic of Agawam. If needed we can send more.

Other nation in opposition-
We are the tip of the iceberg. ICEF (International Coalition for Exposition of Force) is also tied in from their home region of Winter. If any negative force is taken by ANY nation, this organization as well as myself are not afraid to retaliate in any way necessary.

-Stanley Norse
Secretary of War
Walmington on Sea
28-11-2003, 21:17
"Walmington on Sea fails to see how she has done anything improper or hostile at any point in this crisis. Taklos has launched an unprovoked armed invasion of British territory, and as a neighbour of Britain geographically, and a daughter genealogically, Walmington has responded with diplomatic and economic steps apropriate. During Taklos's invasion a British barracks was aparently destroyed in an explosion. Frankly we are surprised not to have received greater condemnation for failing to immediately declare war in support of our besieged ally."

-Foreign Ministry, WoS.
28-11-2003, 21:19
WoS-
Was that a declaration?
Please keep in mind that if we have any reason to believe you want hostility we are very much so prepared to deliver it.
Walmington on Sea
28-11-2003, 21:23
"A further exhibit in the case of civilisation Vs. Taklos and allies- Sanchezium again makes unprovoked and overt threats of a violent nature."

-DPM, MFFA A.Wilson, WoS.
28-11-2003, 21:27
Be reasonable here. I can't let propagandators such as yourself spread the word without it somehow going under my nose. Once again, Talkos is being very reasonable and I would like to see his plan work. I won't make threats, I'll make promises. And if this continues, I can make offers. You are a much larger nation than myself, and I realize that. I also realize your defense forces may be much better. It does not deter me from becoming a little jumpy when I here you say that you "should" have declared war on Talkos. Just my personal thoughts on that.

-Stanley Norse
Secretary of War
Walmington on Sea
28-11-2003, 21:37
Walmington did not state that she should have declared war- had it been so then we would by now have gone through with said declaration. The Foreign Ministry's words were meant to emphasise the shocking level of international support rather than condemnation for Taklos' act of war.

Of course the United Kingdom has by now declared war on Taklos, or is in the process of preparing a statement to that effect, as Talklos has invaded! One would suppose that NATO and many of Britain's other allies in Europe and the Commonwealth are prepared to follow suit, along with any number of sympathetic or generally right-minded Nation States.

Taklos could avert global tragedy by simply giving up its oil-grabbing exercise. Walmington could even supply some ammount of fairly priced crude from the Cape Colonies, rather than barring trade altogether.

-PM George Mainwaring, WoS.
28-11-2003, 21:41
"Your highness, it appears the conflict on the Falklands is heating up. We've already alerted the rest of ICEF, and mobilized a great deal of military to our base there. Do you have any reason to believe we should declare as of present?" He backed away from the microphone. The huge auditorium lit up with flash bulbs.
The emperor leaned towards his mic and said, "No, not yet. Watch Walmington On Sea. Does our intelligence committee have anything to say about that?"

One man with slicked back hair said, "It appears they are the largest in opposition yet. We don't have any intelligence on them because you didn't authorize it yet, sir."

"And I have no intention of doing so...go on..."

"Well, we could use our new space program. Satellites are already lined up, we just have to turn the cameras on, and only you have the key." He smiled slyly.

"I'm not going to use it. We are decent people here and they're correct - they've done nothing to hinder us, only commenting and sneering. We can't do anything about that. Keep aware. Secretary of Intelligence, see me in the back room. Meeting dismissed."

--

"Secretary, why the hell are you so anxious to get in there?"
"I think it would be a good idea if we had some background."
"Don't you dare ever question me on the senate floor again."
"Okay."
"Don't give me okay. It's 'yes, sir'. Leave." The emperor watched him walk towards the door, and pulls out a gun. They heard the two shots down the hall.
28-11-2003, 22:05
I've just activated the ICEF defense initiative program (and appointed a new Secretary of Defense). Talkos, victory will be yours.
28-11-2003, 22:08
We in AD101 are in a poaching crisis ( don't ask, you don't want to know). Still, we will offer any aid possible.
28-11-2003, 22:10
I will support Sanchezium due to the ICEF defensive initiative, i will give more exakt figures of what im sending abit later but it will all be Infatary. Alittle more then 125 000 soliders.
28-11-2003, 22:19
bump
Credonia
28-11-2003, 22:23
"The Dominion of Talkos reiterates its comittment to a diplomatic situation, and the fact that its Peacekeeping forces are under orders not to fire unless fired upon."

(Ah, so with it common knowledge that your troops will not fire first, we can assume that actually, the islands are still British- because the British garrison has no cause to surender, and thus its troops can continue to go about their business, maintaining British administration of the islands, right?)

Walmington on Sea is pleased, relieved even, to hear that it is not the entire world which has gone mad, as the IADF (ooc:what's that?) appears to be openly objecting to Talkos' aggression. So said the weary Minister For Foreign Affairs.

The IDAF is a 17+ nation Alliance group called the International Allied Defense Federation formed for the common defense of all nations and to protect those in need both big and small.
28-11-2003, 22:29
We in AD101 are in a poaching crisis

*sends you a pan, 2 eggs, some water and a cookbook*

;)

Also, is there a list of these IADF nations?
Talkos
28-11-2003, 22:41
Altaran, we have embarked your diplomatic team on board of the next humanitarian aid convoy headed to the island. Although we would normally be able to provide 100% security to your observation team, due to the current events and possibility of hostile action by foreign powers, that assurance is getting shakier by the hour. We thank Altaran for the offer to pay for the expenses, but we believe that if it averts violence, it is the least we can do to cover their expenses. We would like to thank Altaran for their level-headed responses, our mission of aid and reconstruction, will not be swayed by these threats of violence against the very lands we are trying to protect.

The Dominion of Talkos thanks Sanchezium, Kelsh, and the ICEF for their statement of support. Although, such a high number of ground troops, in addition to those already there, may sink the island. :wink: And again thank Sanchezium for their call for support, although we will have victory if we must, we would still rather the only victors here be the people of the Falklands themselves.

The Dominion's 2nd Engineering Corps has disembarked from their ships and are beginning reconstruction of vital facilities, and new construction of schools, police and fire houses, etc.

We are still looking for a third party nation to take the captured soldiers off our hands. As we would not want to expose ourselves to unfounded accusations if our ship is damaged by terrorists, or by those promoters of imperialist policy.
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Ramon Nomis
Minister of Foreign Affairs
Credonia
28-11-2003, 22:44
We in AD101 are in a poaching crisis

*sends you a pan, 2 eggs, some water and a cookbook*

;)

Also, is there a list of these IADF nations?

check out the IDAF forum, the list is in the post on the Alliance Charter located in the archives)

http://www.vussp.org/~alliance/forum/
Walmington on Sea
28-11-2003, 23:06
Breaking news: Falkland Islands don't need any humanitarian aid! $25,000 annual per capita GDP provides for islanders' needs!

This shocking information, obtained by The Standard, further damns Taklos over their instigation of the present Falkland Islands crisis.

On top of this, Walmingtonians in the Falkland Islands have threatened to sue the government of Taklos over disruption caused to their holidays.

In yet another twist, the Walmingtonian Defence Ministry is in talks with the British government with the hopes of purchasing a small area of land in the Falklands for construction of an experimental radar station. One of the two WoS government officials in the Falkland Islands is in radio contact with London and Great Walmington, and it appears likely that he shall approach one of the islanders with a generous offer for a portion of his farm land.
28-11-2003, 23:16
[b]Breaking news:On top of this, Walmingtonians in the Falkland Islands have threatened to sue the government of Taklos over disruption caused to their holidays.

OOC: actually that wouldn't happen in reality...
Talkos
28-11-2003, 23:17
Foreign Minister Ramon Nomis Replies to Walmingtonian Threats
The Dominion does not recognize British ownership of the Islands having integrated them as a Dominion special admistration zone for their own protection.

No doubt Walminton can purchase land from private citizens, but attempts to use British claims is as ludicrous as Spain claiming to now be able to sell Cuba, or Japan selling Chinese Manchuria. In fact, they are welcome to purchase land there, but the mutual embargo will prove quite the problem, as we have no intention of lifting our embargo until theirs is lifted, and their belligerent actions are withdrawn. For the protection of the citizens of the Island.

And as for the accusation of the disruption of a holiday. We apologize for the measures that needed to be enacted for the protection of the populace of the Islands, and offer a three-day expense paid stay in the Dead Emperor Hotel in Port Peiron.
Credonia
28-11-2003, 23:22
At the news of this, Credonian Secretary of Defence Mitchell Ferguson under orders from President Kaimoni Sutton mobilized the 422nd Carrier division to be stationed within international waters off the coast of the Falkland Islands.

Credonian 422nd Carrier Division
5 Oliver Hazard Perry Class Frigates
2 SSN Los Angeles Class Submarines
1 Freedom Class Aircraft Carrier
1 Manstein Class Destroyer
1 Rommel Class Battleship
1 Seydlitz Class Cruiser

Upon arrival, the units begin playing war games in preparation for a military strike should one be ordered.
Talkos
28-11-2003, 23:26
At the news of this, Credonian Secretary of Defence Mitchell Ferguson under orders from President Kaimoni Sutton mobilized the 422nd Carrier division to be stationed within international waters off the coast of the Falkland Islands.

Credonian 422nd Carrier Division
5 Oliver Hazard Perry Class Frigates
2 SSN Los Angeles Class Submarines
1 Freedom Class Aircraft Carrier
1 Manstein Class Destroyer
1 Rommel Class Battleship
1 Seydlitz Class Cruiser

Upon arrival, the units begin playing war games in preparation for a military strike should one be ordered.

:twisted: Would your forces like to join with our battlegroup there for simulated wargame trials?

1 Nimitz class Aircraft carrier Bring It On
3 Aegis cruisers,
2 Spruance class destroyers
1 Oliver Hazard Perry class frigate
4 Mao Class Submarines
1 Wasp class amphibious assault vehicle
1 Multipurpose Supply class resupply vessel
Credonia
28-11-2003, 23:31
If we were to join yur battle group in war games, we wouldnt be playing a game. Your guys would go down before you even knew what the hec happened.

If you dont get the message, were against your occupation witin the Falkland Islands. Pull out or be destoryed.
Walmington on Sea
28-11-2003, 23:40
(uh, in real life that is many times more likely than some nation invading the Falkland Islands and not facing world wide condemnation and all out war)

Walmington on Sea most certainly can purchase land on the Falklands Islands with permission from the internationally recognised government, pending acceptance of the bid on the part of the private individual presently being approached.

Can and shall.

Walmingtonian diplomats have been dispatched to various other British overseas territories, such as the South Sandwich Islands. They have been instructed to act as if on holiday until such time as told otherwise, or until the arrival of anti-British forces, at which point the diplomat in each case is to stand on the beach ahead of the invasion force and flap his brolly at them.

"Although first sighted by an English navigator in 1592, the first landing (English) did not occur until almost a century later in 1690" Again we see that the islands were uninhabited when discovered by the British, and that clearly the British can not be imperially dominating anybody in the Falklands, as there is no one else there. Unless we now consider penguins to hold human rights?

One can not possibly fail to understand that this futile and barbaric pursuit will end with the Falklands Islanders returning to their rightful status as British citizens. The world demands that Talkos take some responsibility and recognise at least the fact that these three thousand people are British!

-T.Adam Eccleston, WoS Foreign Ministry.


(ooc:you may note the new name- Mr.Eccleston does not truly hold sufficient authority to deliver this address, but the foreign ministry, where the young man works, is not exactly the Defence Rooms, and Walmingtonian security is not what one would call paranoid)
Talkos
28-11-2003, 23:54
Talkosian Historian Gnay Ingolfsson's Adress

"The claims that Britain has a preexisting claim to the Islands are simply preposterous. It was 1833, over 300 years after the Islands were first recorded, when the British landed troops.

In fact, it was not even the British that first sighted the Islands the islands were most likely discovered by Spain, citing Spanish dominance of the region in the late 15th and early 16th centuries and by the depiction of the Malivinas on charts from the Spanish navigators, Pedro Reinell in 1522-3, Diego Rivero in the 1520's and Diego Gutierrez in 1561. And furthermore the Islands were declared Spanish territory. In 1713, under the Treaty of Utrecht, the Pope gave control of all land to the west of the 40° W meridian to Spain while all land to the east was given to Portugal. Under this treaty, the Falkland Islands clearly fell into Spanish territory and thus had their first legal claim of European possession. By the right of succession, as a former territory lost when Spain fell from its height, the Islands were claimed and administered by South Americans.

As stated before it was not until the 1800s when Britain invaded and conquered the islands from their rightfully chosen government, and it is about time that we returned to the Falklands, to resume the...."
(speech continues)
Walmington on Sea
29-11-2003, 00:05
You are giving control of the islands to Spain? Because if not you have killed your own argument without need for retort.
Besides, none of it changes the fact that the first landing was English. Nor does it change the actually significant fact that the islands are internationally accepted to be British territory, and that the population is British, and that the population does not wish to be anything else.

Taklos has carried out an illegal invasion, and it is presently enforcing an illegal occupation upon the British residents of British soil.

-From a letter sent by PM Mainwaring to Gnay Ingolfsson, and leaked to the press.
Talkos
29-11-2003, 00:17
Reply of Gnay Ingolfsson
"The Islands were indeed Spanish until the fall of their overseas empire. It was as early as 1828 when South Americans established a government, settlements, and infrastructure improvements on the islands. It was in 1833 that the British forces siezed the Falklands, as an imperial colony, deposing the rightful Governer. Our cause is just, our mission is righteous, our forces will not be dissuaded by your imperialistic policies."

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News Reports
Dominion Military analysts are not worried about the Credonian Naval forces in the area, and is confident on its ability to protect the islands from attack. Admiral Marcos stated "If they want a war...then so be it, we will not back down from our protection of the Falklands." Sources report three Alvsborg class minelayers have been dispatched to join Pohjanmaa class minelayer, Stuff It and the Mao Class submarine Take That in extended military training exercises.
Credonia
29-11-2003, 00:35
In a demonstration that Credonia was serious, both Los angeles class submarines fire a tomahawk cruise missile into the sea. They sucessfuly plunge into the sea 30 yards from the Talkiosian Nimitz aircraft carrier currently being escorted by their naval forces.
Walmington on Sea
29-11-2003, 00:39
All the news that isn't, really- Gnay Ingolfsson becomes laughing stock in Walmingtonion historical, political, and scientific circles; Called "hack" record number of times!

(And he is evidently a mouth-piece for the Talkos government and/or military! (Ref. his parting comment))

Nothing he tenders changes the fact of the entirely British nature of the Falkland Islands' population, the territory's international recognition as British, or the democratic system which has been over-thrown by the Talkos invasion.

Falklands Islander accepts "considerable" offer for tiny patch of land

With news of the sale came the dispatch of a merchantman registered to Wychwood Automation. Wychwood have apparently been chosen to prepare the ground, a few square yards on the edge of an area used to graze sheep, for the later arrival of Defence Ministry assets tasked with installing the talked about radar station.
The Wychwood vessel will have a difficult voyage, having to negotiate waters dangerously close to Ercolanan control. It carries twenty-one Walmingtonian civilian contractors and crew.
Talkos
29-11-2003, 00:49
The Dominion escorts countermeasure weapons failed to hit the incoming missiles, but two of the five Mao class submarines acquire the LA class submarines, and fire off two torpedos each. ASW helicopters are being launched from the escorts and the carrier begins scrambling it's F-18 Fighter Jets. Shots had been fired in their direction, and Talkosian naval forces were bound to react.
(OOC: You fired on our ships, what did you expect, no response?)
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The Dominion of Talkos officially protests the belligerent, warmongering actions of Credonian forces. They have fired upon Talkosian Naval forces and which were only saved by countermeasures. Talkosian Naval forces were bound to react by this reckless hostility by Credonia, we only hope that the loss of lives will be minimal.

Altaran, we can no longer garantee the safety of your diplomatic team. We will expidite their exit if you so request by plane.

Walmington, due to the current embargo, your assets will be turned back. Any cargo with origins from Walmington will be confiscated from the vessel, although its crew and passangers will be free to go.
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Ramon Nomis
Minister of Foreign Affairs
Walmington on Sea
29-11-2003, 00:58
Re: Threats made against Wychwood Automation and Walmington on Sea

They most certainly will not (be turned back)!
Wychwood runs, typically, two cargo shipments per year to the Falkland Islands, bringing ale and other consumer goods,each time returning with wool and meat. This is part of the Falklands economy as run by the people of the Falklands. Talkos has no business ruining the Thriving Falkland economy, and the vessel will not recognise Talkos authority of British territory.
Theft of Walmingtonian government property will result in further diplomatic protests and requests for international action against high seas piracy, final ceasure of frozen Talkos assets in Walmington, and possibly war.
The merchant, a civilian vessel by nature, operating in (unrelated) wartime conditions, is equipped with light defensive armaments, and is fully expected to resist privateers.
An embargo on Walmingtonian trade with Talkos has no bearing on anybody's trade with Britain and its overseas territories.
Talkos
29-11-2003, 01:04
As The Dominion of Talkos has embargoed Walmington and all of her colonies, the transport will most certainly be turned back from the special administration zone of the Falkland Islands. We are currenltly supplying the Falklanders with supplies of consumer goods. The Falklands economy is connected to the Dominion economy, and the embargo will not be breached. Although we will try to avoid violence, we will turn the vessel back if it attempts to enter the 12mile national water zone. Be careful with your threats, a nationalization of Talkosian assets in Walmington will not be viewed kindly upon by the international community.
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Ramon Nomis
Minister of Foreign Affairs
Credonia
29-11-2003, 01:04
Credonian forces will not attack your units as we were not firing upon your forces. Should you attack us our allies would see that as a first strike and would be forces to back us due to the provisions set forth by the IDAF alliance charter. Please note that Credonia does not acknowledge the De Facto State of war that exists between our nations as we were not firing upon your forces.

In addition, we are giving you an altimatum to remove your forces from within the Falkland Islands in the next 24-48 hours or we WILL fire upon your forces.


F-15's and F-16's take off from the aircraft carriers to patrol the area around them. Any air unit that comes within radar contact of our carriers or other naval forces will be fired upon.
Credonia
29-11-2003, 01:06
Talkos
29-11-2003, 01:25
You weren't firing on us? Sure fooled us! Your shots landed 30meters from our Aircraft carrier, did you expect our Captains to believe that it was an intentional miss while in the air? Of course they would return fire, not knowing the destination of the missiles.

Given that radar range can be between 10-30 nautical miles. We belive that the proclaimation is nothing more than an attempt at warmongering. We have no intent of firing first, but we will not stand by and be slaughtered.

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Admiral Marcos in a broadcasted communication to the Credonian Carrier
Credonia
29-11-2003, 01:28
You have 48 NS hours to move out of the islands or we will attack you

OOC: i have to go for now, i'll be back later
Credonia
29-11-2003, 01:29
Walmington on Sea
29-11-2003, 01:43
Great Walmington is in contact with London, and through its two government officials, with Stanley, and neither London nor Stanley recognise Talkos' authority over the Falkland Islands. Nor does Great Walmington. Nor do any capitals in the civilised world.

To suggest that the international community would look less kindly on ceasure of Talkos' assets in Walmington, by Walmington, than the ceasure of Walmingtonian assets in British territory, by Talkos, is perhaps the most obsurd thing ever to have been delivered without upper-case lettering mid-word.

-WoS Foreign Ministry.
Valinon
29-11-2003, 01:50
OOC: As a student of British history, especially the years of Empire, I feel it necessary to intervene. Spain never claimed the Falklands, they drew it on the chart and then left it at that. They considered the islands to be inconsequential and did not even bother to mount a mapping expedition to them at any time during their period of dominance on the South American continent. The British claim to them came after the British mapped the islands after they had mapped than by more than just looking at them through the telescope. In fact, the Spanish Empire full agreed with Britain's claims to the islands, because they were content with the control of the Caribbean isles and thought the British were quite stupid for wanting to claim such irrelevant pieces of dirt in the Atlantic. Then the Spanish, as is typical, where forced to eat crow when the Falklands were used as a great jump-off point of refueling and resupplying, coal and beyond, for the British navy to get the Pacific. The Falklands would remain key in allowing the British to project their power from both angels of the Pacific, unlike their other European brethern who were dependent upon the Suez and Capetown routes. Ok, I have said my piece. But if you are going to use history as a basis, at least try and get it right.
Talkos
29-11-2003, 01:50
Great Walmington is in contact with London, and through its two government officials, with Stanley, and neither London nor Stanley recognise Talkos' authority over the Falkland Islands. Nor does Great Walmington. Nor do any capitals in the civilised world.

To suggest that the international community would look less kindly on ceasure of Talkos' assets in Walmington, by Walmington, than the ceasure of Walmingtonian assets in British territory, by Talkos, is perhaps the most obsurd thing ever to have been delivered without upper-case lettering mid-word.

-WoS Foreign Ministry.

Is this to be taken that all those that have recognized the authority are uncivilized? Is Walmington on Sea claiming that the soverign and respected nations of Sanchezium, Recon Marines, Kelsh, AD101, Swirrhirr, DarknessUponUS, and Dritz Army are uncivilized? We believe that those nations would take great offense at this accusation, and we would ask for an official apology from the WoS Foreign Ministry.

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Ramon Nomis
Minister of Foreign Affairs
United Elias
29-11-2003, 02:07
:shock: OOC; Sheeps and penguins outnumber humands by about 50:1 in the Falklands. Dare not have a big battle because the 1,200 islanders might get assymilated :roll:
Walmington on Sea
29-11-2003, 02:09
You shall not get apologies for the expression of Walmingtonian opinion as regards your unprovoked and illegal invasion of a peaceful and democratic territory of Britain.

That the Talkos government concernes itself with such petty formality beyond the democratic freedom of three thousand people and the rule of international law is quite depressing.

We await any justification for Talkosian aggression, and are prepared to lend assistance to the United Kingdom in gathering a coalition against Talkos should they persist in their illegal military occupation.

-Respectfully, PM George Mainwaring, WoS.

(ooc: Well put, Valinon.. er, feel free to have a Valinon..ian scholar chip in with ic words to the same effect! ;) )
Kisnesia
29-11-2003, 02:11
Kisnesian Double-Carrier Group 7 has been deployed to the region to back Credonia. ETA is 35.2 NS hours, within the time limit established by Credonia before hostillities ensue.

Compliment includes:
2 Nimitz-Class Carriers
1 Battleship
2 Cruisers
2 AEGIS Cruisers
2 Destroyers
3 Wolf-Class Submarines
147 F-15 and F-16 aircraft

We would like to note that a diplomatic solution can still be reached.
Eastern Detroit
29-11-2003, 02:13
:shock: OOC; Sheeps and penguins outnumber humands by about 50:1 in the Falklands. Dare not have a big battle because the 1,200 islanders might get assymilated :roll:

OOC: Whether it is 12, 120, 1200 or 12 Million. Where do you draw the line? I'd defend territory like that if it was mine. But seing it seized is enough to consitute an act of war.
Valinon
29-11-2003, 02:21
Suddenly a man dressed in a formal suite and bearing the credentials of the chairman of the Department of Terran History of the Imperial University appears.
He clears his throat, "If I may interrupt and clear up some of the apparent confusion of historical evidence on the part of Talkos. Spain never claimed the Falklands, they drew it on the chart and then left it at that. They considered the islands to be inconsequential and did not even bother to mount a mapping expedition to them at any time during their period of dominance on the South American continent. The British claim to them came after the British mapped the islands after they had mapped than by more than just looking at them through the telescope. In fact, the Spanish Empire full agreed with Britain's claims to the islands, because they were content with the control of the Caribbean isles and thought the British were quite stupid for wanting to claim such irrelevant pieces of dirt in the Atlantic. Then the Spanish, as is typical, where forced to eat crow when the Falklands were used as a great jump-off point of refueling and resupplying, coal and beyond, for the British navy to get the Pacific. The Falklands would remain key in allowing the British to project their power from both angels of the Pacific, unlike their other European brethern who were dependent upon the Suez and Capetown routes."
He turns to go and says as he walks away, "Thank you. And please in the future be a more reverant student of history before seeking to employ it in the justification of a war."
Walmington on Sea
29-11-2003, 02:21
[notes that almost everyone else objecting to the invasion is doing so ooc, and begins to wish that he hadn't stuck his neck out]

(Bother)
29-11-2003, 02:35
The people and the Gouverment in Kelsh is upset by how lightly Walmington on Sea is an outrage!

"the foreign minister of Walmington on Sea has called out in public and called ous all, the people of Kelsh to be uncivilized. This is an outrage!" yells Julion Carlsson in a speech towards the protestors who are screaming "war on walming! war on walming!"
Of the council of clan
29-11-2003, 02:37
From: the Desk of Premier Virgil Malcolm
To: Those involved in the Falklands
RE: Current Occupation

The Greater Federation of the Council of Clan is filing a diplomatic protest, censuring Talkos, Sanchezium, Recon Marines, Kelsh, AD101, Swirrhirr, DarknessUponUS, and Dritz Army. For both invading and supporting the Unlawful occupation of that small corner of the British Empire. Though my nation is currently involved in a major war using the bulk of our Military. We will offer what assistance Walmington on the Sea needs if they are unjustly attacked. Furthermore, we do not see the point of this invasion, Talkos has made up a reason to invade, to further build the Infrastructure of the Falklands? The CoC asks what type of Idiociy this is. This island is sparsely inhabited and with a very good economy, it does not need building up. This is seen as a unjust occupation and CoC has issued an Embargo on Talkos and the above mentioned nations. We offer Great Britain Moral support in this matter.
Walmington on Sea
29-11-2003, 02:52
"Walmington on sea too is upset at how lightly it is an outrage." Said a confused Minister For Foreign Affairs in an effort to "humour the Kelsh".

HRH King Godfrey III thanks the council of the Clan for their support and applauds their moral fibre, but added that the British Empire became the Commonwealth of Nations in 1931.
29-11-2003, 02:52
Altaran, we can no longer garantee the safety of your diplomatic team. We will expidite their exit if you so request by plane.

We are dismayed that the turn of events has come to this.

We appeal to all nations involved to stand down, and seek a diplomatic end to this stand off.

We have ordered the 1st Fleet to commence fuelling and arming - we may wish to bring the fleet to the area in order to act as a 'buffer' between the two sides - a peacekeeping force, so to speak.

We implore Talkos and Walmington on Sea to stand down, and not let a military action break out.

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Walmington on Sea
29-11-2003, 02:53
"Walmington on Sea has mobilised no military forces."

-Joint statement from the Ministry For Defence and the Ministry For Foreign Affairs.
29-11-2003, 03:02
"Walmington on Sea has mobilised no military forces."

-Joint statement from the Ministry For Defence and the Ministry For Foreign Affairs.

Regardless, we can sense that a confrontation is likely to erupt - perhaps not between yourselves and Talkos, but definately between the allies.
Agrigento
29-11-2003, 03:03
Walmington on Sea, has back

Namely me :!:

ooc: I didn't bother to read the multitude of pages in this thread, but just making it aware that WoS has many powerful allies.
Kisnesia
29-11-2003, 03:07
We have ordered the 1st Fleet to commence fuelling and arming - we may wish to bring the fleet to the area in order to act as a 'buffer' between the two sides - a peacekeeping force, so to speak.


Kisnesia suggests that Altaran may wish to withdraw the peacekeeping force, as it will likely get in the way of the IADF rolling over Talkos. However, we have no argument with the people of Altaran, and wish to keep it that way.

We remind Talkos that a peaceful solution can still be found.
Walmington on Sea
29-11-2003, 03:14
ooc: Cheers to Agrigento
[Promises to refrain from using the next Italian joke that comes to mind in the North Africa thread ;) ]
Don't worry about the thread too much- I'll summarise if we get attacked, but WoS's efforts to avoid all out war (while being firm) will of course continue unchanged inspite of the welcome support.
Of the council of clan
29-11-2003, 03:16
Walmington, check your TG's
29-11-2003, 03:44
The 3rd Isochron Carrier Battle Group is dispatched.

3rd Carrier Group
3 Quintessential carriers (210 Harriers, 2 Sea Sprite helis)
2 Cygnus Strike Carriers (60 x F-14)
6 ANZAC Class frigates
3 Adelaide Class MTDs
2 Aegis destroyers

The Delta Air Service (DAS - paratroopers) are on their way as we speak, with 3,000 to be dropped into the skies
Talkos
29-11-2003, 04:01
Altaran, we can no longer garantee the safety of your diplomatic team. We will expidite their exit if you so request by plane.

We are dismayed that the turn of events has come to this.

We appeal to all nations involved to stand down, and seek a diplomatic end to this stand off.

We have ordered the 1st Fleet to commence fuelling and arming - we may wish to bring the fleet to the area in order to act as a 'buffer' between the two sides - a peacekeeping force, so to speak.

We implore Talkos and Walmington on Sea to stand down, and not let a military action break out.


We would welcome your participation in helping to avert hostility. And assure you that we will not be the first to fire. Our forces are for the protection of the Islanders and are sorry that events have taken this dangerous turn. We will neither fire first or provoke an attack, but we will not allow our ships to be fodder for the imperialistic aims of Walmington and allies.

As such we have ordered three of our Carrier Battlegroups(same layout as the first one), to steam to the area. Our forces on the Islands itself are beginning to build entrenchments and bomb shelters for the Islanders in case of agression by foreign powers.
Talkos
29-11-2003, 04:07
Suddenly a man dressed in a formal suite and bearing the credentials of the chairman of the Department of Terran History of the Imperial University appears.
He clears his throat, "If I may interrupt and clear up some of the apparent confusion of historical evidence on the part of Talkos. Spain never claimed the Falklands, they drew it on the chart and then left it at that. They considered the islands to be inconsequential and did not even bother to mount a mapping expedition to them at any time during their period of dominance on the South American continent. The British claim to them came after the British mapped the islands after they had mapped than by more than just looking at them through the telescope. In fact, the Spanish Empire full agreed with Britain's claims to the islands, because they were content with the control of the Caribbean isles and thought the British were quite stupid for wanting to claim such irrelevant pieces of dirt in the Atlantic. Then the Spanish, as is typical, where forced to eat crow when the Falklands were used as a great jump-off point of refueling and resupplying, coal and beyond, for the British navy to get the Pacific. The Falklands would remain key in allowing the British to project their power from both angels of the Pacific, unlike their other European brethern who were dependent upon the Suez and Capetown routes."
He turns to go and says as he walks away, "Thank you. And please in the future be a more reverant student of history before seeking to employ it in the justification of a war."

It was never our intention to go to war. Our primary concern in this has always been the prosperity of the people of the Falkland Islanders as citizens in a special administration zone of the Dominion. The foreign ministry is not responsible for the views expressed by its private citizens. It was the Walmington forces that are using the British claims as a justification of war and destruction of private property.
Of the council of clan
29-11-2003, 04:09
Suddenly a man dressed in a formal suite and bearing the credentials of the chairman of the Department of Terran History of the Imperial University appears.
He clears his throat, "If I may interrupt and clear up some of the apparent confusion of historical evidence on the part of Talkos. Spain never claimed the Falklands, they drew it on the chart and then left it at that. They considered the islands to be inconsequential and did not even bother to mount a mapping expedition to them at any time during their period of dominance on the South American continent. The British claim to them came after the British mapped the islands after they had mapped than by more than just looking at them through the telescope. In fact, the Spanish Empire full agreed with Britain's claims to the islands, because they were content with the control of the Caribbean isles and thought the British were quite stupid for wanting to claim such irrelevant pieces of dirt in the Atlantic. Then the Spanish, as is typical, where forced to eat crow when the Falklands were used as a great jump-off point of refueling and resupplying, coal and beyond, for the British navy to get the Pacific. The Falklands would remain key in allowing the British to project their power from both angels of the Pacific, unlike their other European brethern who were dependent upon the Suez and Capetown routes."
He turns to go and says as he walks away, "Thank you. And please in the future be a more reverant student of history before seeking to employ it in the justification of a war."

It was never our intention to go to war. Our primary concern in this has always been the prosperity of the people of the Falkland Islanders as citizens in a special administration zone of the Dominion. The foreign ministry is not responsible for the views expressed by its private citizens. It was the Walmington forces that are using the British claims as a justification of war and destruction of private property.

If you never intended to go to war, why is there a military occupation?
Walmington on Sea
29-11-2003, 04:11
Walmington Street, Great Walmington, Walmington on Sea

"Aggression by foreign powers sayeth the foreign aggressor. Walmington is painted by Talkos as some manner of aggressor. Perhaps out single civilian merchantman is a greater military asset than their multiple carrier battle goups. This can not be helped, our merchants must defend themselves in a world where random nations may invade the territory of others and oppress the democratic rights of previously free people. It is a pity that Talkos persists in this petty propaganda war when it is quite obvious, even to those reading only their reports, that Talkos is absolutely in the wrong.
"Well Wilson, I am out of ideas. Talkos will not even accept that the people the oppress are British. They will not accept the facts of world opinion and international politics. They will not face up to the fact of their violent attack on a British barracks. What can we possibly argue? What can we possibly offer?"

"Economic support to anyone who ..deals with them, Prime Minister."

Mainwaring nodded a little without lifting his downcast eyes from the desk behind which he slouched.

"It's almost mercenary, isn't it?"
Talkos
29-11-2003, 04:14
If you never intended to go to war, why is there a military occupation?

There is no military occupation. Police trained Peacekeepers detached from our nation have been disembarked there to maintain order so that humanitarian aid workers and reconstruction work could begin, and be protected from the imperialist garrison forces that have been opressing the Falklands for years. Once Port Stanley was secured a civilian coup overthrew the imperialist puppets and installed a newly elected government. Unfortunately the garrison opposed this and our Peacekeeping forces needed to be used, along with assistance from other nations, to capture these terrorist guerilla forces.
Walmington on Sea
29-11-2003, 04:16
"The foreign ministry is not responsible for the views expressed by its private citizens. It was the Walmington forces that are using the British claims as a justification of war and destruction of private property."

(I'm not sure who exactly is saying that to whom, but ..oh..well)

Walmington of course demands Talkos come up with some sort of evidence of Walmingtonian distruction of of private property. To the best of our knowledge, all destruction so far has been wrought against the British by the hand of Talkos. Walmington boasts two retired couples and two junior diplomats in the Falklands.

Hardly a Special Operations Wing Commando Unit (some may think that a shame).

-Foreign Ministry, WoS.
29-11-2003, 04:18
Put the falkland islands under my domionion and I wil insure that they ar restored to greatness. under my leadership and economic genius, the falklands will become a prospeous and productive nation. :D
Walmington on Sea
29-11-2003, 04:18
There is no military occupation. Police trained Peacekeepers detached from our nation have been disembarked there to maintain order so that humanitarian aid workers and reconstruction work could begin, and be protected from the imperialist garrison forces that have been opressing the Falklands for years. Once Port Stanley was secured a civilian coup overthrew the imperialist puppets and installed a newly elected government. Unfortunately the garrison opposed this and our Peacekeeping forces needed to be used, along with assistance from other nations, to capture these terrorist guerilla forces.

"The er, imperialist puppets were elected indepentent politicians living in the less than three thousand strong population of the Falkland Islands. Their terms would have expired in approximately 2005 at which time the residents would again have gone to the polls."

-Minister For Information Sir Harold Snoad.
Talkos
29-11-2003, 04:21
The Destruction of private property refered to is to the actions that Walmington is about to be a part of. Our Peacekeepers have been quite strict in the preservation of private property, but a shooting war will undoubtably destroy more than just military assets. The destruction of Falkland Islander property will be blamed on the agressors.

The Dominion of Talkos has begun economic sanctions against both Credonia and Isochronous for their hostile actions.
Walmington on Sea
29-11-2003, 04:32
The Destruction of private property refered to is to the actions that Walmington is about to be a part of. Our Peacekeepers have been quite strict in the preservation of private property, but a shooting war will undoubtably destroy more than just military assets. The destruction of Falkland Islander property will be blamed on the agressors.

On the aggressors may it lay, yes. And since Talkos is the aggressor ("I am in half a mind to fly out to Talkos and punch their head of state squarely between the eyes should they brush over this fact one more time!" -PM Mainwaring to DPM Wilson) they shall bear the cost of compensation after their withdrawl.
For the fifth or sixth time Walmington states that is has no military assets in, around, or on route to the Falkland Islands!


The Dominion of Talkos has begun economic sanctions against both Credonia and Isochronous for their hostile actions.

Great Walmington announces to the world its intention to cease all Talkos assets in Walmington on Sea and her empire -including any ships, aircraft, lorries, or other vehicles impounded during the freeze- if Talkos does not immediately make official its intent to begin withdrawl from the Falkland Islands.
Of the council of clan
29-11-2003, 04:38
Talkos, why haven't you filed an formal protests against British Government? You see an injustice then your nation conducts a multi-million dollar occupation of an island that has already been seized from the british twice, and welcomed the British back in after they were liberated. What the Council of Clan suggests is that Talkos pay reparations to the British Government for the lives lost from the soldiers that died, and for british property destroyed. Then Hold a Plebiscite to let the PEOPLE(that you claim are liberating) Decide whether they want to stay in the Commonwealth, Independence Or Join in the Dominion of Talkos. If you are so for democracy, why don't you let the people decide?
Talkos
29-11-2003, 04:45
Our formal protests with the British government were ignored. But, reiterating its commitment to peace, the Dominion will gladly begin withdrawl negotiations, under certain conditions.
The Dominion of Talkos will withdraw if given guarantees that;
1. No foreign troops will be landed on the Falkland Islands
2. Our humanitarian aid workers can continue on the islands
3. The democratically elected government that has come to power will not face any opposition to recognition by concerned powers.
4. The Falkland Islands will become a independant, demilitarized state under the protection of the Dominion of Talkos (Exception being the Sanchezium airbase already on the island which will remain unmolested)
5. Talkosian inspectors be given free reign to patrol the Islands for signs of foreign bases.

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Ramon Nomis
Minister of Foreign Affairs
Walmington on Sea
29-11-2003, 04:55
The minimal requirements of any agreement that may ever be reached:

1) Talkos withdraws completely and utterly from the Falkland Islands
2) Talkos does not return to the Falkland Islands with hostile intent
3) Talkos does not interfere with the internal politics of another nation unless expressly asked to do so by truly concerned parties
4) The British people will be allowed to continue living their lives as they please

Talkos has NO leverage in these loosely termed negotiations.

-Statement from the Foreign Ministry.
Talkos
29-11-2003, 05:04
The Dominion of Talkos' intent when entering the Islands was never hostile, our humanitarian aid forces are there by request of the civilian government.

As for the other three clauses. We have made our offer, one which we believe our allies will support. We would like to hear proposals from other involved parties.

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Ramon Nomis


In other news, the three Alvsborg class minelayers returned from training exercises. After a short resupply they were once again sent out to continue the naval training exercises.

The Carrier Up Yours took up station, bringing the count to two whole carrier battlegroups, the largest show of force since the Galapagos War nearly 40 years ago.
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News Reports
Walmington on Sea
29-11-2003, 05:17
1) The civilian government is British, as are the Falkland Islanders.

2) There was no crisis or need for aid.
-These two factors are sufficient evidence to the fact that your first claim is a fabrication.

3) Your forces ordered the surrender of the garrison on hand for the islanders' protection.
-This is not a peaceful act, but an invasion.

4) You then attacked, despite reporting no British resistance.
-This is a war crime, and there will be trials to prove and punish such.

-Office of PM Mainwaring.
Valinon
29-11-2003, 05:29
Suddenly a man dressed in a formal suite and bearing the credentials of the chairman of the Department of Terran History of the Imperial University appears.
He clears his throat, "If I may interrupt and clear up some of the apparent confusion of historical evidence on the part of Talkos. Spain never claimed the Falklands, they drew it on the chart and then left it at that. They considered the islands to be inconsequential and did not even bother to mount a mapping expedition to them at any time during their period of dominance on the South American continent. The British claim to them came after the British mapped the islands after they had mapped than by more than just looking at them through the telescope. In fact, the Spanish Empire full agreed with Britain's claims to the islands, because they were content with the control of the Caribbean isles and thought the British were quite stupid for wanting to claim such irrelevant pieces of dirt in the Atlantic. Then the Spanish, as is typical, where forced to eat crow when the Falklands were used as a great jump-off point of refueling and resupplying, coal and beyond, for the British navy to get the Pacific. The Falklands would remain key in allowing the British to project their power from both angels of the Pacific, unlike their other European brethern who were dependent upon the Suez and Capetown routes."
He turns to go and says as he walks away, "Thank you. And please in the future be a more reverant student of history before seeking to employ it in the justification of a war."

It was never our intention to go to war. Our primary concern in this has always been the prosperity of the people of the Falkland Islanders as citizens in a special administration zone of the Dominion. The foreign ministry is not responsible for the views expressed by its private citizens. It was the Walmington forces that are using the British claims as a justification of war and destruction of private property.

If you never intended to go to war, why is there a military occupation?

The same professor reappears again, "I believe that the Dominion may be unaware of a recent move by British policy makes that happened in the year 2001. Parliament put to civic vote in several "colonial" possession of Great Britain if they wishes to remain British or seek independence. Two notable examples were the Falklands and Gilbraltar. In an overwhelming majority the citizenry of both the Falklands and Gilbraltar voted to remain under the government of Great Britain. I fail to see why the Dominion is seeking to liberate people from a government they are perfectly happy to be governed by. Usually nations which have tried this in the past have been doing so for their own self-interest and gain rather than for the interests of the citizenry they say they are liberating."
Talkos
29-11-2003, 05:46
1) The civilian government is British, as are the Falkland Islanders.

2) There was no crisis or need for aid.
-These two factors are sufficient evidence to the fact that your first claim is a fabrication.

3) Your forces ordered the surrender of the garrison on hand for the islanders' protection.
-This is not a peaceful act, but an invasion.

4) You then attacked, despite reporting no British resistance.
-This is a war crime, and there will be trials to prove and punish such.

-Office of PM Mainwaring.

1. We share close kinship with us, bonds of location and blood. The British empire has shown no support for them, in fact, we believe the British empire to have fallen into misure and destruction by the forces of inactivity and we felt it our moral obligation to allieve them of their suffering.
2. The need was to see our neighbors having the same level of peace and prosperity as we ourselves had.
3. We only ordered their surrender after they fired upon our Peacekeepers
4. We were forced to secure the Islands in the name of peace, as the terrorist actions of insurgent forces worked against the interests of the people of the Dominion special administration zone of the Falkland Islands. What little resistance there was, we did report.
Walmington on Sea
29-11-2003, 05:57
Your reports stated that on the apparent cusp of British surrender something of the British garrison's residence was blown-up. I recall no talk of active military resistance, however it would have been warrented given the fact that Talkos had just invaded.

Unfortunately, ooc, I absolutely can not be bothered to carry on, as I've been repeating myself for five or six pages to no avail. The media in Walmington on Sea reports the British-lead nuclear demolition of Taklos (because action would by now have been taken by the world at large. Damn lazy NSers) and the merry liberation of the Falklands, and that is an end to it. Goodnight, I am falling asleep with boredom.
Talkos
29-11-2003, 06:00
Earlier on we had reported the resistance. Page one in fact we believe.

OOC: Lol, well you made a good show of it Walmington. Nice, scaled escalation throughout. Good use of economic means, nice stroke with that merchant ship. Good RPing with you, perhaps we'll be able to finish this tomorrow. And, well, the Dominion is stubborn when it needs to be, especially when they're convinced of the just in its mission
Walmington on Sea
29-11-2003, 06:09
ooc:Cheers. I hope someone else can get off their arse and take-over. I'm just.. bleh [makes vague hand gesture]. Maybe it would be apropriate now to reveal, incase you were not aware, that Walmington on Sea is a nation at a 1940's equivalent stage of it technological and social development. There was never really anywhere we could take it- I was hoping for more muscle off the back of our diplomatic and economic steps.
Anyhoo.. toodles. Sorry.
29-11-2003, 07:09
OOC- While Germany may support Talkos in the invasion of the Falklands, I personally have to agree with WoS; your argument for taking over the island seems to be lacking any kind of justification. I'm only doing this to make things harder for him!
IC- The early morning sun broke over the horizon, scattering bright bands of color across the waters of the South Atlantic. The beaches, bare save for a few seagulls and turtles, were quiet.
Had anyone been present to take in the brisk morning air, they would have seen a black rubber raft glide up to shore; inside the raft, they would have seen eight men dressed in civilian clothes paddling through the surf. As the raft brushed the sand, two men hopped out into the tide, pulling the rubber boat to shore. The others quickly exited as well, and busied themselves digging a shallow pit in the less sodden beach further away from the tide line. Working quickly, they soon emptied a hole big enough to contain the raft and its remaining contents, which were quickly deposited within and buried. Two of the men then set off, compasses in hand, and quickly plotted the position of the cache. That finished, the men split up and strolled toward the interior of the island, blending into the population with a slight effort.
Further out to sea, U-556 slid below the waves, where she would wait for cover of darkness at the bottom of the sea.
Talkos
29-11-2003, 07:16
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Captain Hosea to the Naval Oversight and Investigations Committe years afterwards
"No, I did not pursue the report by Midshipman Rico about the object"

"But you were informed by the Midshipman that he sighted something."

"Yes your honor, but given the low light and debris in the water that it could have been anything, a dolphin, a piece of driftwood, a --"

"But there was the possibility that it could have been unknown agents, persumeably to do harm to the citizens of the Dominion special administration zone of the Falkland Islands..."

"Yes sir, but since there had not been any covert act--"

"You were ordered to stay at full alert for the exercise, yet you did not investigate the sighting by one of your crewmen?"

"But sir....."
Investigation Continues

OOC: Well, we can't object to that statement Kriegsmarine.
29-11-2003, 09:39
Our formal protests with the British government were ignored. But, reiterating its commitment to peace, the Dominion will gladly begin withdrawl negotiations, under certain conditions.
The Dominion of Talkos will withdraw if given guarantees that;
1. No foreign troops will be landed on the Falkland Islands

Oh the hypocrisy!
2. Our humanitarian aid workers can continue on the islands
Fine, although we doubt there is a need.
3. The democratically elected government that has come to power will not face any opposition to recognition by concerned powers.

This is what we're defending
4. The Falkland Islands will become a independant, demilitarized state under the protection of the Dominion of Talkos (Exception being the Sanchezium airbase already on the island which will remain unmolested)

The Falklands wish to remain a part of the British Empire. If you fail to respec that, we will have no choice but to take military action. You will face the full force of the IADF and the Isochronous Empire if this continues. The Falklands need no protection.

5. Talkosian inspectors be given free reign to patrol the Islands for signs of foreign bases

We will not allow such blatant violations of British sovereignty.

Thus, we issue the following ultimatum:

1. Talkos withdraws all military & police presence immediately
2. Talkos apologises to the British Empire, the Falkland Islands and others for violation of their sovereignty
3. You pay compensation to the infringed nations mentioned above
4. All economic sanctions against Isochronous and Credonia are lifted
5. Talkos will sign a legal agreement not to infringe on British (Falkland Islands) airpsace or waters without prior consent.

We have 48,000 troops in the area on board ships, and a carrier battle group plus reinforcements from the IADF on the way. You have 24 hours to comply or we will evict you from the islands with force.
29-11-2003, 14:25
ICEF nations (around twenty of them) can be in on this if all of you would like. Not only would it be a waste of time, effort, and troops, but it would also crowd an already crowded nation. We sent five battle groups down in addition to the ten already there. That makes 15 battle groups (aircraft carrier, two destroyers, four submarines/group).

OOC: If this thing turns into a war we're all going to vaporize each other!
29-11-2003, 14:53
Altaran has been monitoring the communications sent back and forth, and is alarmed at the increased level of tension in the area. We would like to make a proposition.

The Trotsky class battlecruiser Staberinde will sail to the area. Upon the Staberinde, the leaders of the two opposing sides and/or coalitions will meet, and discuss a peaceful solution diplomatically and face to face. The Staberinde will be neutral ground, and full security will be given to both sides.

Any attacks upon the Staberinde by either side will be considered an act of aggression, and will warrant Altaran's full-scale entrance into the conflict against the side that attacked our ship.

But of course, it will not come to that. We do not want a war - and you do not want a war.

We eagerly anticipate replies from the coalitions.

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Talkos
29-11-2003, 15:16
OOC: Yea, Sanchezium. It's getting reallly crowded around the islands right now, all the carrier battlegroups and about a quarter of a million troops on both sides(which would probably sink the islands lol). I think we can handle this with our current forces, we haven't even mobilized our army yet. But the first shot that goes off and, it'll be worse than a nuke strike.

IC:

Altaran, we have always stated our comittment to a peaceful solution to the problem. We not only accepted, but welcomed your observation team, and later on your buffer force. We will of course accept this wise proposal. We will send diplomatic representatives, including the commander of our naval forces in the area Admiral Marcos. They will depart for your ship shortly in a fast patrol ship from our naval base in Uruguay.

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Ramon Nomis
Ministery of Foreign Affairs


In other news, transport traffic between the Dominion of Talkos and the Falklands Islands has increased, as it becomes integrated as a special administration zone. Long lost relatives, separated generations ago, are meeting, immigrants to the Islands and to the mainland are moving across freely and the government of the Islands has declared a week of celebrations. In weather today it's another fun in the sun day, but sattelite imaging shows the beginnings of a large stormfront, expects expect it to be hitting the island within three days.
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News Report
29-11-2003, 16:41
The mobile hospitals already we've already set up at our airport can serve as disaster shelters as well, for both allied troops and citizens of the Falklands, should this front become something larger.
29-11-2003, 20:00
Altaran, we have always stated our comittment to a peaceful solution to the problem. We not only accepted, but welcomed your observation team, and later on your buffer force. We will of course accept this wise proposal. We will send diplomatic representatives, including the commander of our naval forces in the area Admiral Marcos. They will depart for your ship shortly in a fast patrol ship from our naval base in Uruguay.

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Ramon Nomis
Ministery of Foreign Affairs


We find Talkos' cooperation most agreeable, and again hope to bring this to a peaceful solution. However, we will not send the ship until both sides have agreed, so it would not be wise to have your diplomats floating about in a patrol boat waiting for a ship that will not turn up.

We implore those nations against Talkos' actions to agree.
Credonia
29-11-2003, 20:59
Credonian military forces have ceased war games and are poising for orders to arrive from Credonia War Headquarters to attack.

President Sutton relays the following message to all of the involved nations:


Ladies and gentlemen. This conflict has dragged on for long enough. The time for diplomacy is almost up. We believe the nation of Talkos is just stalling for time while they carry out their acts of imperialism and oppression of these people. Should the nation of Talkos stall for more time, Credonia will be forced to liberate these people from the nation that is illegally occupying their land, and we shall come out victorious, and we shall return power and control of the country to its rightful owners.
Isselmere
29-11-2003, 22:17
The Isselmerian government requests the immediate departure of all foreign troops from the British territory of the Falkland Islands. His Majesty's Government does not recognize the illegal seizure of those Islands by the Dominion of Talkos, and is appalled by the level of support given to that nation on the basis of propaganada statements issued by the Talkosian [sp?] Foreign Ministry. All assets of Talkonsian nationals and companies and those of Talkos' allies will be seized forthwith until a proper and peaceful resolution to this invasion, i.e. the return of the Islands to British sovereignty in accordance with the will of the people as expressed in the 2001 referendum.

God save the King!
The Rt. Hon. Sir Ian Peckwith, Minister of Foreign Affairs and International Development, MP, CS, OL
Recon Marines
29-11-2003, 23:09
I will remove my Marines, Recon Marines, ect. out when their is a peaceful resolution to this.
Agrigento
29-11-2003, 23:22
The Government of Agrigento, having seen the commitment to which two of its allies have pledged, has decided to get itself involved directly with the events currently unfolding in the South Atlantic. It is the intention of our nation to prevent conflict, and solve this problem as peacefully as possible. With the intent of peacekeeping a large naval force has left port and is en-route to the disputed Falkland Islands.

___________________________

The 1st Fleet
1 AGF-6 class Command Ship "Capo del Mare"
3 Arsenal Ships
3 AEGIS Fleet Guardian Arsenal Ships
4 Uccellino del Mare class Aircraft Carriers
6 Andrea Doria (NUM) Class Aircraft Carriers
5 MHC-51 Osprey Class Coastal Mine Hunters
37 Nike class Catamaran Corvettes
6 Naga Class Catamaran Cruisers
3 Re class Catamaran Marine Support Ships
8 Delfino class Catamaran Destroyers
9 Animoso class Destroyers
18 DDG-993 Kidd-class destroyers
16 CG-47 Ticonderoga class Cruisers
31 FFG-7 Oliver Hazard Perry class frigates
17 Orizzonte class AAW frigates
6 T-AE 26 Kilauea class Ammunition ships
3 AO-177 Cimarron class fleet oilers
6 LHA-1 Tarawa class Ships carrying 1,000 Marines each, plus combat equipment
4 LHD-1 Wasp class Ships each equipped with 6 AV-8B Harriers and 2,000 Marines along with their LAVs and supplies.

The Seventh Submarine Force:
13 SSN-688 Los Angeles class submarines
7 SSN-21 Seawolf class submarines
4 SSGN-726 Ohio class submarines

The Ninth Submarine Force:
21 SSN-21 Seawolf class submarines
8 SSN-688 Los Angeles class submarines
5 SSGN-726 Ohio class submarines
Isselmere
29-11-2003, 23:30
The presence of uninvited--despite statements to the contrary by the Dominion of Talkos--foreign, armed personnel on Her Britannic Majesty's Falkland Islands constitutes an act of aggression upon the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. As loyal friends of Her Majesty and of Her Majesty's Government, His Isselmerian Majesty's Government does hereby request the immediate departure of all foreign, that is non-British, forces from the Islands, with the sole exception of those forces the presence of which was requested by Her Britannic Majesty's Government, as the preface, and not the first chapter, of a peaceful resolution to this problem.

The Kingdom of Isselmere does not recognise the claim to the Falkland Islands by the Dominion of Talkos whether on its own behalf or on the behalf of Argentina, the only other nation than Great Britain to have laid claim to these islands up until this point. Furthermore, the Isselmerian government does not recognise the Treaty of Tordesillas dividing the "unclaimed" non-European world to be in effect.

Signed,
The Rt. Hon. Sir Ian Peckwith, MFAID, MP, CS, OL

Policy Directive 641/2003-D7
29-11-2003, 23:48
Well talos it has grown way over my head. Only 2 days ago i could compete(a bit) and now :shock: .
29-11-2003, 23:59
Altaran is dismayed by the complete and utter disregard for our efforts to bring this situation to a peaceful solution.

We condemn all the Talkos' opposition nations as they are too eager for war - they do not even consider the adversary they are so keen to wage conflict upon.
Agrigento
30-11-2003, 00:00
Altaran is dismayed by the complete and utter disregard for our efforts to bring this situation to a peaceful solution.

We condemn all the Talkos' opposition nations as they are too eager for war - they do not even consider the adversary they are so keen to wage conflict upon.

My forces are only there as a deterrant.... My nation is located a great distance away in the Pacific Ocean, so it is necessary that we start deploying troops so soon, in case it does get out of hand.
Isselmere
30-11-2003, 00:13
His Isselmerian Majesty's Government has merely employed economic sanctions against the hostile actions of the Dominion of Talkos and those of its allies. The Government heartily supports the efforts of those nations seeking to bring peace, and have not mobilised our forces in the expectation that a peaceful resolution can be found.

That written, this illegal occupation of the Falkland Islands on the false pretext of humanitarian aid and reconstruction must cease. The Government humbly requests that the Islands are immediately returned to the Islanders.

God save the King!
The Rt. Hon. Sir Ian Peckwith, MFAID, MP, CS, OL
30-11-2003, 00:25
That written, this illegal occupation of the Falkland Islands on the false pretext of humanitarian aid and reconstruction must cease. The Government humbly requests that the Islands are immediately returned to the Islanders.
Isselmere-
Just as I have a blatant disregard for the British, you also must have a blatant disregard for ethics. We demand you stop this negative propaganda instantly, because we DO have the forces to back ourselves up.

-Elafo Sanchez
Emperor of Sanchezium
Chairman of ICEF
Isselmere
30-11-2003, 01:49
To Sanchezium:

The Isselmerian government finds it odd that requesting an invading power to remove itself from territory belonging to a sovereign nation, a territory that has in the recent past expressed its desire to remain part of that sovereign nation, can in any way be construed as engaging in fallacious or negative propaganda or as in any way displaying a regard for ethics.

Furthermore, your threats to broaden this conflict reveal the source of what you seem to consider ethics. The Isselmerian government had not begun to mobilise until you began issuing such declarations. Isselmere may not be large, but we Isselmerians shall at least try to defend our territory against aggressor nations.

Repeat, we are not sending forces in the direction of the Falkland Islands, merely preparing to defend our lands. Now, if this is considered as a disregard for ethics, so be it.

The Rt. Hon. Sir Ian Peckwith, MFAID, MP, CS, OL
Kisnesia
30-11-2003, 01:52
We condemn all the Talkos' opposition nations as they are too eager for war - they do not even consider the adversary they are so keen to wage conflict upon.

So much for being a non-partial side. Many of us are here because of our membership in the IADF. Talkos is simply trying to be imperialistic, and we are stopping him.
Talkos
30-11-2003, 05:07
OOC: Well the oppresor, you did well while you could. You show great promise, and we're sure that you'll do well in the future.

The Dominion of Talkos states that these warmongering nations are a threat to the security of the free world. And our diplomats are still waiting for a representative from the other side to begin negotiations to a peaceful end. We doubly thank Altaran for their offer of a neutral meeting ground, or ship as it may be.

We would also like to thank Sanchezium and Recon Marines for their continued support. Although, if these warmongering nations get their way, we would urge them to cut their losses, we would not want allies that have proven so loyal to be so damaged the defense of the freedom of the proud Falklander people.

We have looked over the various proposals given, and believe that we have come up with a compromise that both sides can agree upon.
1. All military or government aligned forces from both sides are withdrawn. (Observers, diplomats, troops, peacekeepers, aid workers, etc.)
2. The newly elected rightful government of the Falkland Islands holds a plebicite of all the people on the islands to determine if they would like to be part of the Dominion of Talkos, or part of the non-existant British Empire.
3. The Dominion of Talkos assumes responsibility for any damages it has caused to the private citizens of the Islands(minus the repairs and improvements of course)
4. All economic sanctions are lifted.

We would abide by these conditions....as for a formal apology to the British government, once we see that the warmongering opposition is interested in peace, then we may consider it...

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Ramon Nomis
Ministry of Foreign Affairs

Reports of a storm front breaking over the Falkland Islands and cutting down visibility on both sides continues to be a concern for military planners.

According to studies the economy of the Falkland Islands has experienced unprecedented growth, new census estimates the population of the Falkland Islands has surpassed 7,000, and the week long celebrations have left the populace is a exuberant mood. A small malaria outbreak on the western island has been quelled as Talkosian engineers oversee the extermination of mosquito breeding grounds. Trade and commerce is now flowing freely between Talkos and the Falkland Islands.
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News Reports
Agrigento
30-11-2003, 07:14
The most recent terms provided by the Dominion of Talkos seem more than reasonable. We believe that a free election by the people of the Falkland Island to be the fairest..and perhaps only way this can be resolved. While we await word from the other nations abound, we agree to such terms on our end.


ooc: How is this warmongering???

The Government of Agrigento, having seen the commitment to which two of its allies have pledged, has decided to get itself involved directly with the events currently unfolding in the South Atlantic. It is the intention of our nation to prevent conflict, and solve this problem as peacefully as possible. With the intent of peacekeeping a large naval force has left port and is en-route to the disputed Falkland Islands.
Talkos
30-11-2003, 07:24
OOC: Please, don't feel insulted by an IC response when it is responded to IC. We were mostly talknig to the less, errr, tactful nations that have chosen to oppose us.....though that is a veerrryyy powerful force you sent down there. :wink:
Agrigento
30-11-2003, 07:34
OOC: Please, don't feel insulted by an IC response when it is responded to IC. We were mostly talknig to the less, errr, tactful nations that have chosen to oppose us.....though that is a veerrryyy powerful force you sent down there. :wink:

ooc: Eh, im not really insulted.

Since the Second Islandian Conflict we have avoided sending anything smaller than a Fleet to another theatre to fight. We lost substantial forces because they were too far away to be reinforced, and/or protected. Since this is very far from any of our holdings we feel we have to send a large force, if only for its own safety and to minimize any loses.

(hope that makes sense :P )
Isselmere
30-11-2003, 08:20
His Isselmerian Majesty's Government is very pleased with the Dominion of Talkos's recent proposals to terminate this incident. There is some concern with regard to the recent population explosion, and would request instead that a disinterested third party be responsible for conducting the new referendum and that it [the referendum] occur within a reasonable period of time.

The Government requests the opportunity of sending a delegate to observe the negotiations, and will lift the present sanctions once negotiations begin.

In peace,
The Rt. Hon. Sir Ian Peckwith, MFAID, MP, CS, OL
30-11-2003, 11:49
We condemn all the Talkos' opposition nations as they are too eager for war - they do not even consider the adversary they are so keen to wage conflict upon.

So much for being a non-partial side. Many of us are here because of our membership in the IADF. Talkos is simply trying to be imperialistic, and we are stopping him.

You are (attempting to) stop Talkos through conflict, when a diplomatic solution has repeatedly been offered by ourselves, and to which Talkos has agreed. You are warmongering.
Credonia
30-11-2003, 13:27
Credonia urges IDAF allied member nations to stand down until diplomatic solutions are reached. If they are not reached, then an atack would be in question. We do not want to inflate the situation any worse than it already is. We ask that no threats be made, so that the tensions in the air can dissipate.

[signed]
Kaimoni .A. Sutton
President of the United States of Credonia
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Credonian president orders the Credonian 422nd Carrier division to stand down, but will stay in the area pending a visit to the carrier by President Sutton who may make a diplomatic journey to the region.
30-11-2003, 17:35
We agree with the resolution of Talkos. We will withdraw all of our forces (besides those normally stationed at our airbase there) as soon as the other occupying nations do the same.

-Stanley Norse
Secretary of State,
Holy Empire of [the war mongering] Sanchezium :)
Of the council of clan
30-11-2003, 17:55
Premier Malcolm:

The Greater Federation of the Council of Clan would like to make one small addition to the Talkos Peace proposal. The only voters that are to be franchised are the votors that were franchised previous to the Talkos Invasion and have lived there more than 1 year.

OOC: I know what your doing talkos ;-)
Kisnesia
30-11-2003, 19:38
The Dominion of Talkos has stood by too long while unrest and disorder afflicts our neighbors in the Falkland Islands... In order to establish a free trade zone the Dominion of Talkos has recognized the Falklands as a special administration zone of the Dominion...The Dominion is also about to disembark 2,000 Policemen, detached from the 3rd Marine Division, in order to maintain order during the operation

Hmm.... Does this sound imperialist to you?


You are (attempting to) stop Talkos through conflict, when a diplomatic solution has repeatedly been offered by ourselves, and to which Talkos has agreed. You are warmongering.

You have repeatedly pressed for a diplomatic solution. However, Talkos only recently turned from their imperialistic ways to offer a solution. Kisnesia and the other IADF nations have simply been willing to stand up to that imperialism.

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Kisnesia is willing to accept the most recent diplomatic solution offered by Talkos, as long as the addendum included by Of the council of clan is also a part. Otherwise, Talkos will simply be able to rig the election.

Our forces will stay in the area, but have stood down from high alert status. Additional forces are no longer scheduled to be deployed to the region.
Walmington on Sea
30-11-2003, 19:53
If Walmington hadn't long since lost interest in this dimension, and returned to the one in which Britain doesn't let people invade its territory without responding by killing all hell out of them, we might point out that Talkos still has absolutely no rights to demand or even propose a single thing with regards to Falkland sovereignty or politics. There were elections in the Falklands in 2001, and will be again in 2005. The Falklanders would not engage in a new election inbetween simply because Talkos says so, and no realistic Nation State will recognise the results of such an illegal, unofficial, and surely all but unattended elction. Britain and the Falklands won't agree to them, no matter what other nations may agree, or what Talkos may demand. They quite simply won't.
I just hope that's understood.
Talkos
30-11-2003, 21:13
Given that the majority of nations involved agree to the treaty as is. We believe that we can end this misunderstanding, and show for once and for all that the people of the Falkland Islands believe themselves to be more aligned with the economically powerful and free Dominion of Talkos, than the fallen British Empire(England having been occupied and annexed by TROUSERS quite a while ago).

In response to the concerns voiced by Isselmere, we would like to ask Altaran observers to oversee the elections, as they have been throughout this conflict, a patry concerned only with peace in the region and we belive as unbiased as possible. They will administer the poll boxes to be as fair as possible.

We wish a peaceful and beneficial end to this, as we have throughout the situation. But we actually rather outraged given that the Falklands are internationally recognized as Talkosian, that they have experienced unprecedented economic growth as a result of our aid work, and that the newly elected government has asked for us to stay there.

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Ramon Nomis
Minister of Foreign Affairs

OOC: Oh? You do council? Well that's good, because we don't. :wink:
Of the council of clan
30-11-2003, 23:55
OOC: Well what your doing talkos reminds me a lot of Bleeding Kansas. When the 1500 citizens voted for a Legislature, people came over from Missouri and voted for a pro-slavery Legislature. Something like 7000 Voted for and like a 1,000 against.

hmmmmm.........
Kisnesia
01-12-2003, 01:27
1. All military or government aligned forces from both sides are withdrawn. (Observers, diplomats, troops, peacekeepers, aid workers, etc.)
2. The newly elected rightful government of the Falkland Islands holds a plebicite of all the people on the islands to determine if they would like to be part of the Dominion of Talkos, or part of the non-existant British Empire.


Kisnesia, who has not signed this treaty, would like to note that elections cannot be held until "forces by both sides are withdrawn." Kisnesia will not withdraw its troops until the addendum by The Council of Clan is added.

As we have stated, we are not opposed to elections, but we do not want, as CoC put it, a "Bleeding Kansas." We hope other nations also wish for a fair election.
Credonia
01-12-2003, 01:53
Credonia supports the arguments presented by the nation of Kisnesia. We too shall not sign a peace treaty unless the mentioned addenum proposed by the nation of Council of Clan is included.

[signed]
Kaimoni .A. Sutton
President of the United States of Credonia
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Talkos
01-12-2003, 02:08
---------- Transcript of proceedings from emergency council

Foreign Min. Nomis: Well, it looks like they're all going to demand the point, I say we give it to them instead of losing face in opposing now.

Gen. Sanchez: Like hell! We've had months to dig in there, we can take them! Real easy, one two three, all dead. We give them agreeable treaty, and they not agree, time to stop the talking and start the killing!

Adm. Marcos: Ahhh be quiet Sanchez... I'm too old for this. Just stall for time, really, we hold all the cards here. Every day their forces are here they're costing them millions upon millions of dollars...our ships are operating within hours of their supply base, and we can reinforce the island in less than an hour. We just wait for them to get tired...

Councilor "Citizen" Yang: Now that isn't very diplomatic Admiral. I believe that we should give up the point, we're looking at the long run here, and I for one don't have much doubt as to an outcome in our favor, in the favor of the people of the Falklands.

For. Min. Nomis: Well said Councilor. And besides, if we were forced to engage, we'd be facing massive casulties for such little islands.

Gen. Sanchez: Bring it on! Our armed forces can take the whole bunch of 'em on! Now, I'm not saying that we wouldn't get our hair mussed, two, three million casulties tops. We've got nearly 15 million men eligible for military service per year, we can take up to a million casulties per month and sustain operations. And once we begin the bombing operations over their civillian centers....

Econ. Min. Hosea: And flat line our economy! I say that we withdraw from the islands, nothing more than a black hole for our money...

Adm. Marcos: We can't withdraw at the request of those warmongers, we'd lose face. A strong independant Falklands with strong ties to us is what we want. I still say that we wait them out. But I have to agree with the good General there, we're on the defensive, we can outlast them.

Min. of Defense Simone: Well.... I've been in every war we've been in, which is more than any of you can say. And war is hell. I say that we keep on with the negotiations. As the Councilor said, we're in it for the long term.

Hon. "Doc" Bolivar: Alright yall. I reckon we've seen the sides here. How's about we take it to a vote? All those in favor of breaking off negotiations altogether in favor of war? 1.... All those in favor of withdrawing? 1.... All those in favor of trying to stay the point? 3..... All those in favor of accepting the point? 4....

Councilor Yang: Alright. What we're going to do is accept the point, no use arguing over it. It'll just show them that not only are we comitted to peace, but we can win even as we are forced to play by their rules.
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The Dominion of Talkos will accept that proposed addendum to read as "Only those who are able to vote will be people who have lived there for more than one year." (about 8 months longer than we've been there. We did not invade, and we will not admit an invasion that we did not committ, we were mearly on a humanitarian aid mission when we were asked by the new government for assistanc, including the elimination of terrorist insurgents), and in fact, we will even allow an additional vote five years from that time. If they don't like our rule then they can vote to be reabsorbed by the British.

We are still waiting for responses from nations, especially to know if Altaran will oversee the elections.

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Ramon Nomis
Minister of Foreign Affairs
01-12-2003, 06:35
We wish a peaceful and beneficial end to this, as we have throughout the situation. But we actually rather outraged given that the Falklands are internationally recognized as Talkosian, that they have experienced unprecedented economic growth as a result of our aid work, and that the newly elected government has asked for us to stay there.

Nobody recognises the Falklands as Talkosian. They will remain part of the British Empire. There will be no election until 2005, and the Falklands will have a chance at independence if they elect to cede from the British Empire before becoming Talkosian.

Newly elected government? You mean, your self-uinstalled puppets. You are fudging the numbers, because the Falklands people are very upset at your actions.
Talkos
01-12-2003, 06:46
Nobody recognises the Falklands as Talkosian. They will remain part of the British Empire. There will be no election until 2005, and the Falklands will have a chance at independence if they elect to cede from the British Empire before becoming Talkosian.

Newly elected government? You mean, your self-uinstalled puppets. You are fudging the numbers, because the Falklands people are very upset at your actions.

We're sure that Sanchezium, Recon Marines, Kelsh, AD101, Swirrhirr, DarknessUponUS, and Dritz Army wouldn't be too happy to hear you refer to them as "nobody" or the other nations that have posted on the "RL nation claims thread." The Falklands are just as, if not more, Talkosian than they are British.

As for your selfish demands....we belive that we have offered up a very reasonable proposal. One that is agreeable to most of the nations involved, one that we've made several large compromises for. An attack by Isochronous will be one that destroys the peace that so many nations have worked so long to come to. We do not agree to your warmongering demands, and frankly, if we were as staunch in our position as you are in yours, bullets would be flying because we would never have consented to negotiations.
Kisnesia
01-12-2003, 07:07
The Dominion of Talkos will accept that proposed addendum to read as "Only those who are able to vote will be people who have lived there for more than one year." (about 8 months longer than we've been there. We did not invade, and we will not admit an invasion that we did not committ, we were mearly on a humanitarian aid mission when we were asked by the new government for assistanc, including the elimination of terrorist insurgents), and in fact, we will even allow an additional vote five years from that time. If they don't like our rule then they can vote to be reabsorbed by the British.

We are still waiting for responses from nations, especially to know if Altaran will oversee the elections.

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Ramon Nomis
Minister of Foreign Affairs

Such terms are acceptable to Kisnesia, as long as they are acceptable to other nations as well. Altaran may oversee the elections, but we would like to request a team of our own observers to be sent in (this is not a condition, but a request). Talkos may also send in a team of its own observers. However, Altaran would run the election.
Talkos
01-12-2003, 07:20
Such terms are acceptable to Kisnesia, as long as they are acceptable to other nations as well. Altaran may oversee the elections, but we would like to request a team of our own observers to be sent in (this is not a condition, but a request). Talkos may also send in a team of its own observers. However, Altaran would run the election.

Alright. We believe that small teams of observers would be acceptable, although we for one will not be sending one. We are sure that they will be administered fairly, and would not want paranoid nations to accuse us of somehow interfering.

We praise Kisnesia for their even mindedness. Though we would ask them to talk with their more recalcitrant allies, who seem to believe in an all or nothing approach to negotiations.
Credonia
01-12-2003, 10:13
---In a Cabinet Meeting With The President In The Presidential Palace---

Secretary of State Lauren Smith: Mr. President, we see a loop hole in their proposed addenum to the treaty. They can easily back off of the islands for 5 years but leave people there to become citizens and then after the five years is up, vote, get elected and then power of the islands would be transfered over to Talkos via a puppet government. Their offer for peace and an end to this conflict is too good to be true. They wouldnt propose it if there wasnt something in it to them, and the coalition forces are just eating it up, not realizing it.

President Kaimoni Sutton: Lauren, i totally agree. Five years isnt very long to wait to get practically free control over the Falkland Islands LEGALLY. That means were going to need to propose a second addition to that treaty, and their reaction to it will determine whether or not they are truly for peace in the islands or not. Thank you for bringing it to my attention.

Secretary of Defense Mitchell Ferguson: Sir, I believe that an additional carrier group be sent into the seas to backup the 422nd should things go bad with Talkos after we propose the amendment to the treaty. Things could get nasty and from what it looks like, they arent going to give up the islands without a fight. We need more firepower to show them that they will be destroyed if they do choose to fight instead of go through diplomacy as we are doing now. We would need to send the carrier group in, only noting to the press that it is for military excercizes as not to escallate the situation.

President Sutton: That sounds good. Get it done mitch.

SoD Ferguson- Yes sir.

President Sutton: Thank you all for your suggestions, i shall be enacting all of them. We shall meet again in 12 hours to discuss any reactions that Talkos has to our statements.

---End of Cabinet Meeting---

The government of Credonia realizes loop holes in your nations proposed treaty that will allow you in the future to seize power of the islands in a very non conventional, sneaky, and sorry to say, almost legal manner. We propose an added part to the addenum.

"No person from the nation of Talkos who has immigrated to the Falkland Islands may take part in elections to seize top government positions such as President or Vice President so as to keeping the islands sovreign and free from political control from Talkos.

[signed]
Kaimoni .A. Sutton
President of the United States of Credonia
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Of the council of clan
01-12-2003, 15:43
Of the Council of CLan agrees with this new amendum by Credonia and suggests it be added to the treaty.
Talkos
01-12-2003, 16:07
How far will this go... We've aready accepted a very powerful compromise, and now this... Will it eventually say that "anyone who has a second cousin that spent more than three days in Talkos is barred from voting." Ethnic and national discrimination against the citizens of the Falklands, discrimination is banned in the Dominion, and it will not be in the treaty. Frankly, our military advisors say that we can take you all on if we have to, and with our allies, we suspect we'd pretty much level the earth before it ended, in fact, our allies have recommended exactly that. This is getting ridiculous. We will not discriminate against citizens of the Falklands, who by chance, originated from one nation or another.

If we are to accept that addition, we would need something substantial...what do you have to offer? We would at least have a garantee that the government there is secure, that we could establish a naval base on one of the islands, a garantee that all nations abide by the results and offer support to enforce them(given the no-compromise approach of some of your allies), and the Falkland Islands be recognized as "The Talkosian Republic of The Falkland Islands" Start with those terms, and then we can talk about your addition.

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Foreign Minister
Ramon Nomis
Of the council of clan
01-12-2003, 16:39
Premier Malcolm

Yes Talkos, but what guarentees do we have that you will not flood the Islands with your settlers, wait for the next election and vote the islands out of the british empire. Here is another suggestion, there be no election in 2005 mentioned in this treaty, only deal with the current problem and election. And allow the Duely elected government after this election to come up with its own rules on franchise. So we can avoid this major argument. And Talkos, your military advisors don't take into account all the allies of the allies of Walmington on the Sea or Council of Clan and etc. If you continue to threaten military force this conflict could snowball into a massive war with millions dead on either side. All over a couple of islands in the South Atlantic. I believe if you remove the provision for the future election things can continue on the road to peace.
01-12-2003, 16:49
Immigration policies are matters of concern to the British alone. Talkos can't move in and eventually subvert the islands, because being other than utterly stupid the British will deny citizenship to Talkos..ians. Talkos has to withdraw and never return.

Citizens of Victoria and Salvador are absolutely horrified at Talko's action against the British, and many amongst the population are calling for blood.

The term "lived there" appears to allow Talkos to import whatsoever illegal immigrants it desires. This is a direct assault on British sovereignty.

Perhaps Victoria Salvadorians visiting friends and family in the Falkland Islands should simply remain, and vote as they see fit when the time comes. Perhaps their friends and family will move out to be with them. Prehaps their friends and families' friends and families... (continue ad nauseam)

"This is getting ridiculous" -The invasion of the Falkland Islands was ridiculous, sir. Now you resort to threats of further military bullying, and at once speak of compromise. This, sir, is behaviour worthy of ridicule!


-Victoria Salvadorian Consulate, London.

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"Vox populi, vox Rex"
Neo Yamato
01-12-2003, 17:10
A medium cruiser criuser group arrives at the island. Each ship bares two flags, the first one is the Neo Yamato traditional figure and the other is the ICEF flag. The group consists of one heavy cruiser and one medium cruiser. Assisting the cruisers are two destroyers and one Nuclear Sumarine at 50ft.

The lead cruiser offers its assistance to Sanchezium in return for a diplomatic solution to the current status of the Faulkand Islands.

The small naval group will remain seabound until the ICEF council decides if intervention is nessacery, until then we remain our unagressive stance.
01-12-2003, 19:25
OOC: Sorry I havent posted for a bit ;)

Altaran is most definately willing to oversee new Falkland elections. We are a neutral nation in this conflict, and simply desire to see a peaceful resolution to the crisis.

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The Tendency Of Altaran
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All Glory To The Soviet!
01-12-2003, 19:46
And that neutrality, unusually enough, is a bias against what is right. This supposed neutrality is one apparently open to forcing improper and arguably illegal elections upon the population of the Falkland Islands, disrupting their own democratic systems. It is a bias that gives Talkos rights in an issue that does not in any way concern Talkos- the peaceful every day running of a British Overseas Territory.

-Victoria Salvadorian Consulate, London
Kisnesia
01-12-2003, 19:47
Kisnesia must concur with Credonia and Of the Council of clan.

Our preferred approach is to eliminate the 2005 election, and then allow the Falklands and whoever owns them by the results of the first election to determine immigration policies.

This will prevent permanent disenfranchisement of immigrants (unless the people of the Falklands wish that), and still allow the Talkosian question to be decided fairly.

Kisnesia would also like to add that Kisnesians, Credonians, Clanspeople (didn't want to call you Clansmen.... :D ), etc. are also banned from voting in this current election. So we, although not in control of the island, are also giving up something. Also, the treaty bans voting by people that came before a certain time period, not people that came from any certain country.
Of the council of clan
01-12-2003, 19:54
Kisnesia must concur with Credonia and Of the Council of clan.

Our preferred approach is to eliminate the 2005 election, and then allow the Falklands and whoever owns them by the results of the first election to determine immigration policies.

This will prevent permanent disenfranchisement of immigrants (unless the people of the Falklands wish that), and still allow the Talkosian question to be decided fairly.

Kisnesia would also like to add that Kisnesians, Credonians, Clanspeople (didn't want to call you Clansmen.... :D ), etc. are also banned from voting in this current election. So we, although not in control of the island, are also giving up something. Also, the treaty bans voting by people that came before a certain time period, not people that came from any certain country.

There are no citizens of the Clans inside the Falklands except business investors.
Manarth
01-12-2003, 19:58
Manarth supports her long time ally GF of CoC.
Of the council of clan
01-12-2003, 21:07
OOC: http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/fk.html

Population according to CIA Factbook: 2,967 (July 2003 est.)

Economy:
The economy was formerly based on agriculture, mainly sheep farming, but today fishing contributes the bulk of economic activity. In 1987 the government began selling fishing licenses to foreign trawlers operating within the Falklands exclusive fishing zone. These license fees total more than $40 million per year, which goes to support the island's health, education, and welfare system. Squid accounts for 75% of the fish taken. Dairy farming supports domestic consumption; crops furnish winter fodder. Exports feature shipments of high-grade wool to the UK and the sale of postage stamps and coins. The islands are now self-financing except for defense. The British Geological Survey announced a 200-mile oil exploration zone around the islands in 1993, and early seismic surveys suggest substantial reserves capable of producing 500,000 barrels per day; to date no exploitable site has been identified. An agreement between Argentina and the UK in 1995 seeks to defuse licensing and sovereignty conflicts that would dampen foreign interest in exploiting potential oil reserves. Tourism, especially eco-tourism, is increasing rapidly, with about 30,000 visitors in 2001. Another large source of income is interest paid on money the government has in the bank. The British military presence also provides a sizeable economic boost.

so where is the oppression?
01-12-2003, 22:52
That is provided by Talkos, and Talkos alone, it would appear.

-V&S Consulate, London.
Credonia
01-12-2003, 23:32
How far will this go... We've aready accepted a very powerful compromise, and now this... Will it eventually say that "anyone who has a second cousin that spent more than three days in Talkos is barred from voting." Ethnic and national discrimination against the citizens of the Falklands, discrimination is banned in the Dominion, and it will not be in the treaty. Frankly, our military advisors say that we can take you all on if we have to, and with our allies, we suspect we'd pretty much level the earth before it ended, in fact, our allies have recommended exactly that. This is getting ridiculous. We will not discriminate against citizens of the Falklands, who by chance, originated from one nation or another.

If we are to accept that addition, we would need something substantial...what do you have to offer? We would at least have a garantee that the government there is secure, that we could establish a naval base on one of the islands, a garantee that all nations abide by the results and offer support to enforce them(given the no-compromise approach of some of your allies), and the Falkland Islands be recognized as "The Talkosian Republic of The Falkland Islands" Start with those terms, and then we can talk about your addition.

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Foreign Minister
Ramon Nomis


Why should we have to give up a substancial amount of somthing whe your the one oppressing these people. We are there to help them, you are there to take them over and impose a new government upon them, one that is bent to ur cause.
Agrigento
02-12-2003, 04:03
Talkos, despite what you may think, you do not have any leverage in this matter. Now I would like this solved as peacefully and quickly as possible, but the fact of the matter is that you have no legal right to these islands, or control of the population therein.

We believe that Clan's approach is the best course of action, and the most well founded for the benefit of the islanders. However since you have indeed made compromises to your position, a position which we have yet to deem legal, we will, if the other nation's agree, be willing to grant a naval base on Falkland territory of slightly more than nominal magnitude.
02-12-2003, 06:20
Talkos, despite what you may think, you do not have any leverage in this matter. Now I would like this solved as peacefully and quickly as possible, but the fact of the matter is that you have no legal right to these islands, or control of the population therein.

We believe that Clan's approach is the best course of action, and the most well founded for the benefit of the islanders. However since you have indeed made compromises to your position, a position which we have yet to deem legal, we will, if the other nation's agree, be willing to grant a naval base on Falkland territory of slightly more than nominal magnitude.

That is unagreeable. No Talkos naval base can be allowed on the Falklands. You have to question their motive for wanting one too.
02-12-2003, 12:31
His Majesty's government of the United Kingdom of Victoria and Salvador finds itself in agreement with the Isochronous position against Talkosian involvement in the future of the Falkland Islands. His Royal Highness King Llewellyn does not wish to destroy any possibility of future relations with Talkos, but this matter can only persist for so long before action must be taken.

With elections under-way in Victoria and Salvador, and the restoration of Parliament, it seems likely that the Progressive Loyalists will take power, and Sir William Duncan's respect for the land of our fathers (the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland) could hardly be greater.

-Victoria Salvadorian Consulate, London.
Of the council of clan
02-12-2003, 15:39
Talkos, despite what you may think, you do not have any leverage in this matter. Now I would like this solved as peacefully and quickly as possible, but the fact of the matter is that you have no legal right to these islands, or control of the population therein.

We believe that Clan's approach is the best course of action, and the most well founded for the benefit of the islanders. However since you have indeed made compromises to your position, a position which we have yet to deem legal, we will, if the other nation's agree, be willing to grant a naval base on Falkland territory of slightly more than nominal magnitude.

That is unagreeable. No Talkos naval base can be allowed on the Falklands. You have to question their motive for wanting one too.

I Concur, there will be no Talkosian Military instalation upon British Commenwealth Soil. That is indeed an insult to be even thought of.
02-12-2003, 17:47
And that neutrality, unusually enough, is a bias against what is right. This supposed neutrality is one apparently open to forcing improper and arguably illegal elections upon the population of the Falkland Islands, disrupting their own democratic systems. It is a bias that gives Talkos rights in an issue that does not in any way concern Talkos- the peaceful every day running of a British Overseas Territory.

-Victoria Salvadorian Consulate, London

Neutrality is synonomous with peace. We must be open-minded to the Dominion as much as to their opponents, if for no other reason than to prevent a full-scale invasion or occupation of the islands.

We have the best interests of the populace of The Falklands at heart.
Agrigento
02-12-2003, 19:36
All sides must compromise. Such matters are not unlike a stalk of bamboo, it has great strength, great potentinial but it can only bend so far before it breaks. Right now only one side is bending, and it is growing periliously close to its breaking point. If not with the naval base we must make other concessions to prevent this from deteriorating to war. While I believe that talkos has no right, nor validity in his claim to the falklands, we must be mindful of the geopolitical position his country is in.

My country is tired, we are wary of full scale war for the time being....we must come to a peaceful solution.

Ambassador Giovanni Durante
Department of Foreign Affairs
Currently with the 1st Fleet.
Of the council of clan
02-12-2003, 19:40
We believe allowing the elections are a compromise and we do not need to add a military instalation on the falklands.
02-12-2003, 19:47
There has already been an invasion! The Falkland Islands are already occupied! There is already war! Talkos has commited an act of war on Britain by invading the Falkland Islands.

Right is not a compromise, what's right is quite simply right.

Though it is in the British spirit to be so civil, appeasement delivered the Czechs into Nazi domination much as it now threatens to deliver the Falkland Islanders into this modern imperialism.

The righteous of the world can not now stand-down.

-Victoria Salvadorian Consulate, London.
Isselmere
02-12-2003, 20:17
The establishment of a Talkosian naval base on the Falkland Islands would in no way guarantee a peaceful result. The sole compromise possible would be a referendum such as the one suggested, that such individuals who arrived after the Talkosian incursion be denied the franchise in that referendum. While the people had already decided in 2001 to remain part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland in perpetuity, another vote, which we are sure will confirm the Islanders resolve to remain British, is the only acceptable compromise.

The Rt. Hon. Sir Ian Peckwith, MFAID, MP, CS, OL
Credonia
02-12-2003, 22:03
The nation of Credonia is once again issuing an ultimatum. Either accept IN FULL the terms set forth within the proposed peace treaty including the addenums that have been proposed as well, or Credonian forces will be compelled to attack. We have exhausted the peaceful diplomatic approach as it has led to no where. We are tired of playing games with your nation and asking nicely to remove your troops. You have illegally invaded the sovreign nation of the Falkland Islands using a false story as your justification. There have been no signs of oppression going on within that country until your people began taking over. You have 48 RL hours to comply, or serious repurcussions will result from your insubordination.
03-12-2003, 01:25
Further Isochronous divisions are readying.
Agrigento
03-12-2003, 01:41
The 1st Fleet has turned around and is returning to Agrigento.
Credonia
03-12-2003, 01:51
The 1st Fleet has turned around and is returning to Agrigento.

OOC: why? :(
Agrigento
03-12-2003, 02:05
The 1st Fleet has turned around and is returning to Agrigento.

OOC: why? :(

Semi-ooc: The truth is that we may need them for an Allies civil war. Basicly what my ambassador said, leaving out why we do not want to commit to war...A) Ally is in trouble, B) Just finished a major war, C) Homeland defense.
Kisnesia
03-12-2003, 02:33
Kisnesia will back up Credonia's ultimatum, but would PREFER A PEACEFULL SOLUTION.

SECRET: An additional double-carrier group has been deployed, and will arrive 47 RL hours from now.
Talkos
03-12-2003, 02:54
OOC: Sorry for the delay, RL has been quite busy. We'll make a full statement later if we have the time, but here's a bare bones one.

The Dominion of Talkos would prefer a second election...but it would grudingly accept the compromise suggested by Agrigento. We have always prefered a peaceful solution. And that seems the most acceptable compromise that has been proposed.

Also, Credonia's proposal of withdrawing from the Soverign Nation of the Falkland Islands hold merit, but we are appalled by the continued ultimatiums and demands, especially, as Altaran, Agrigento, and others can attest, we have been comitted since the start to a peaceful solution to this situation.
Credonia
03-12-2003, 03:07
Credonia is not for war, however, the diplomatic process of negotiations cannot be dragged on. A solution must be agreed upon in a timely fashion, and if for some unforseen reason a solution is not reached, then force is justifiable.

To the nation of Talkos, if you were dedicated to reaching a peaceful solution to this cold standoff, you would have agreed to the provisions of the proposed treaty and its additions as it poses no harm what so ever to your nation. It only affects the people of the Falkland Islands, and it affects them in a way that would be in the best interest of those people. Our ultimatum still stands as is.
03-12-2003, 10:47
Credonia is not for war, however, the diplomatic process of negotiations cannot be dragged on. A solution must be agreed upon in a timely fashion, and if for some unforseen reason a solution is not reached, then force is justifiable.

To the nation of Talkos, if you were dedicated to reaching a peaceful solution to this cold standoff, you would have agreed to the provisions of the proposed treaty and its additions as it poses no harm what so ever to your nation. It only affects the people of the Falkland Islands, and it affects them in a way that would be in the best interest of those people. Our ultimatum still stands as is.

Credonia has our full and complete support.

We absolutely reject the proposal for a Talkos naval base on the Falklands. Talkos, you just don't get it, do you? That is a continued violation of British sovereignty. Plus, your motive is highly suspicious. To annexe the Falklands some day? Probably. We can't take that risk.

We also propose this extra clause:

Talkos, or any of its planes, ships or other vehicles/modes of transport may not fly in or sail on Falklands airspace or waters without prior consent from the British Empire.
03-12-2003, 10:48
03-12-2003, 14:47
(He's going to need a go-back-in-time-o-tron in order to attain the consent of an empire that ceased to exist three or four generations ago)
Of the council of clan
03-12-2003, 21:34
OOC: Well like Walmington, i'm going to have to throw in the towell on this RP. Massive civil war, government shot up or blown up.
Of the council of clan
03-12-2003, 21:35
OOC: Well like Walmington, i'm going to have to throw in the towell on this RP. Massive civil war, government shot up or blown up.
Kisnesia
04-12-2003, 01:57
Credonia and Isochronus (and others criticizing Talkos):

Perhaps we have come to the point where we agree on the deal. If Kisnesia understands the terms of the deal currently, they are:

1. Election, monitored by Altaran, with no interference from Talkos and no vote given to recent entries into the Falklands. Also, no later vote.
2. Talkos pays for any damage done to the Falklands.
3. Talkos gets a millitary base (could do without this one, but if that's all they get out of it, so be it).

Talkos has come to the negotiating table, and so we must take advantage of the opportunities given to us to ensure Falkland freedom. While we do not approve of the invasion of the Falklands, a peaceful solution exists. Please do not give up on peace now.

-Kisnesia
Talkos
04-12-2003, 03:08
OOC: Once again, sorry for the short post, but RL interferes.

The terms of the agreement purposed by Kisnesia are ones that we believe we will be able to agree to. The Dominion of Talkos praises Kisnesia for its commanding role in the negotiations and its commitment to peace and prosperity in the region.

We believe that this is the most agreeable solution purposed so far, we would rather have the second election, but we can be content with the other provisions.

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Ramon Nomis
Minister of Foreign Affairs
04-12-2003, 03:10
Well, in that case Victoria and Salvador shall also demand a military base in the Falkland Islands.

And then there will be no land for the people to graze their sheep upon. And this whole affair will be proven completely wrong-headed, and Talkos and Victoria & Salvador shall have to withdraw, leaving the islands and islanders back as they were to begin with, but angry at Talkos for interrupting their lives.

-V&S Consulat, London.
Credonia
04-12-2003, 03:29
Credonia
04-12-2003, 03:32
If these are the provisions that will be agreed upon, Credonia wants to establish a small naval base on the coastal shore of the Falkland Islands to ensure that Talkos does not try to take over this nation. This will keep Talkosian forces 'in check'. If this provision is not met, Credonia will permanently station a carrier division in the area or secure a base in the region to ensure the balance of power is maintained.
Kisnesia
04-12-2003, 06:40
Maybe the best solution would be to have 1 base for Talkos and his allies, and 1 base for the "Objectors" (Ourselves, Credonia, etc.)

Then we will minimize the intrusion onto the Falklanders and will still keep each other in check.

Would this be agreeable to everyone?

Of course, the bases would be of comprable location, usabillity, etc.
04-12-2003, 07:29
No, that is completely intolerable. The only military base which can be allowed on the Falklands it the miltiary of its own people; the Royal Air Force (RAF), Royal Navy and the British Army.
Credonia
04-12-2003, 12:52
Credonia is in acceptance of this proposal. to the leaders of Iso., we have reached a point where compromises must be made to maintain peace as was stated by Kisnesian leaders. At least we would be able to keep the agressors in check with a military base there.
04-12-2003, 14:58
The peace has already been breached- we can not act to preserve something that was instantly killed long ago, when Talkos invaded the Falkland Islands.
The United Kingdom of Victoria and Salvador has the stomach to sit this out for so long as it takes to secure the freedom of our British cousins.

-V&S Consulate, London.
Talkos
05-12-2003, 06:07
The Dominion would be agreeable to such a solution as wisely posed by Kisnesia. We would be able to keep an eye on the intruders, lest they try to forcibly return the Falklands to their imperialist masters.

Then the objectors will be able to see for themselves the beneficial changes we have wrought upon the Falklands, the improvements that our involvement in lifting off their burden of far away imperial masters brought to the Islands. We can applaud the V&S's determination, which, although misplaced, is admirable, and we would assure them, that we have evey bit as much conviction in this matter.
Credonia
05-12-2003, 09:38
Where is your proof of imperialism? Wheres the oppression? And Talkos is not to interfere with the internal affairs of this nation if this agreement is to be signed. The whole purpose was to keep it free and sovreign from foreign control.
05-12-2003, 12:20
The Dominion would be agreeable to such a solution as wisely posed by Kisnesia. We would be able to keep an eye on the intruders, lest they try to forcibly return the Falklands to their imperialist masters.

Then the objectors will be able to see for themselves the beneficial changes we have wrought upon the Falklands, the improvements that our involvement in lifting off their burden of far away imperial masters brought to the Islands. We can applaud the V&S's determination, which, although misplaced, is admirable, and we would assure them, that we have evey bit as much conviction in this matter.

Your talk clearly shows that your interest is in running the Falklands at arms length to try and keep us fooled and install a puppet government. We will not let this happen and will go to any length to make sure you never go anywhere near the Falklands again.
Credonia
05-12-2003, 12:30
President Sutton suits up and is escorted to his Presidential helicopter 'Marine One' and is flown to Sutton Air Force Base, where he boards 'Credonia One', the Presidential 747-400. His destination is the Falkland Islands to inspect conditions on the island and to view the present situation there in person.

http://www.vussp.org/credoniaone.jpg

Once in flight, he will be ccompanied by Emperor Tamazoid I of the Holy Empire of Isochronous which will be flying in Air Royale, a modified Airbus.

Both 'Credonia One' and 'Air Royale' are capable of running their respective countries from there. Escorting the presidential planes will be Isochronousian F-22 Raptors and Credonian F-15E Strike Eagles. They will arrive at the Falkland Islands in 4 NS hours.
Credonia
05-12-2003, 12:31
BUMP
05-12-2003, 12:31
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Credonia
05-12-2003, 12:38
BUMP

OOC: BTW, then y are you on here?
05-12-2003, 13:37
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Talkos
06-12-2003, 02:59
The Dominion of Talkos hopes that by their visit to the Islands will allow the Credonian and Ischronous representatives to see for themselves the improvements and appreciation of the people of the Falkland Islands for our assistance.

For their own protection they will be escorted as they enter Falklander air space by F-18s from the newly formed Falkland Islands Air Force. We wish them a safe trip in getting to the islands, and hope that such a move can widen the paths of diplomatic communication that have been opened by Altaran and Kisnesia.
06-12-2003, 17:35
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Talkos
06-12-2003, 23:38
Talkos .. Get a life please m8 !

OOC: Lol, got quite a good one. Just have a twisted idea of what is fun and relaxing, and that's why we're here. :wink:
07-12-2003, 08:02
In the skies, a channel of communication is established between the Royal Air Command and the Credonia One Communications Centre. Both leaders discuss the situation.

"Your Majesty, a message from Talkos. You might be interested".

"What is it now?" the Emperor says in an unenthusiastic tone. "Oh, right. WHAT?!? The Falklands has an airforce now? I thought we got the Talkosians to stop the military buildup on the islands. Re-open the line to President Sutton!"

"Kaimoni, did you get the telegram from the Talkosians?"

The response is undecipherable.

"Kaimoni?"

"Your Majesty," a top intelligence official said, "I'm getting the Technical Crew to check the equipment. If that's fine, in all likelihood it's aggressive jamming equipment".
07-12-2003, 08:03
In the skies, a channel of communication is established between the Royal Air Command and the Credonia One Communications Centre. Both leaders discuss the situation.

"Your Majesty, a message from Talkos. You might be interested".

"What is it now?" the Emperor says in an unenthusiastic tone. "Oh, right. WHAT?!? The Falklands has an airforce now? I thought we got the Talkosians to stop the military buildup on the islands. Re-open the line to President Sutton!"

"Kaimoni, did you get the telegram from the Talkosians?"

The response is undecipherable.

"Kaimoni?"

"Your Majesty," a top intelligence official said, "I'm getting the Technical Crew to check the equipment. If that's fine, in all likelihood it's aggressive jamming equipment".
Credonia
07-12-2003, 15:36
After disturbing an encrypted message sent from Credonia War Headquarters, 'Credonia One' suddenly and abruptly breaks out of formation along with the escorting F-15E's and heads back to Credonia. Enroute back to the nations capital, President Sutton sends the following telegram to Emperor Tamazoid I

---Telegram---
Not Encrypted
To: Emperor Tamazoid I of Isochronous
From: President Sutton of Credonia

Message:
Hello sir, due to current events taking place in Credonia, i must tuen back and attend to them. In addition, i must pull our carrier division out of the area meaning that we must drop from this conflict. We wish you best of luck with bringing about peace and justice to the region

[signed]
Kaimoni .A. Sutton
President of the United States of Credonia
http://www.vussp.org/kaimoni_sutton.jpghttp://www.vussp.org/credoniaflag.jpg
---End of Telegram---
07-12-2003, 15:49
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07-12-2003, 15:58
(Yeah, so nice try leaving the thread there, mate. What was I saying? Modalert? Yeah, that sounds right. Modalert! Somebody please make this chap leave!)
Talkos
07-12-2003, 16:05
Talkos .. Get a life please m8 !

OOC: Lol, got quite a good one. Just have a twisted idea of what is fun and relaxing, and that's why we're here. :wink:

Your a total and utter nerd. Anyone playign this pathetic little role play war thing should seriously consider shooting themselves.

OOC: Thank you for the advice Enge...whatever your name is. Though I've already had that under consideration for quite a while. Now, shoo! Even though you are entertaining, you've ticking the others off.

Ohh, and V&S, Modalert doesn't work anymore, the word search is disabled. If this guy is ticking you off ya have to post in moderation with a link to the page, if you do it we'll back you up, but frankly, this guy is small fry.
07-12-2003, 16:14
Ah, good point. I forget mods are human too ;)
Well, I'm far too lazy to dedicate a topic to the chap, I assume he'll be going outside to enjoy his fun fun life before that becomes necessary.
Talkos
07-12-2003, 16:24
Ah, good point. I forget mods are human too ;)
Well, I'm far too lazy to dedicate a topic to the chap, I assume he'll be going outside to enjoy his fun fun life before that becomes necessary.

OOC: Lol, don't you know the Mod motto, "To err is human...we cannot afford to be human." :wink: Alright...hmm, where were we.....

IC
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"Sir, it seems the Credonian delegation is turning back." The radar operator on the TNS Bring It On reported.

"Turning back... Hmph, probably just a trick. Make sure that all their planes go with them, and get a plane over there to make sure nobody, gets left behind. A Falklander Plane." Admiral Marcos turned from the radar station and steepled his fingers, scowling slightly.

"Sir, it looks like their carrier forces are pulling out also." Continued the radar operator.

"Good. Get a wolfpack of our Mao attack subs in the area though, make sure that they're all leaving....I don't like the looks of this. Call up the High Council. Give them your report..."

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The Dominion of Talkos expresses its sadness that we'll only be entertaining one world leader. Perhaps another time.

Boris Koplan
Ministry Foreign Affairs
07-12-2003, 16:35
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08-12-2003, 00:01
"Sir, a message from President Sutton".

"Thanks." The Emperor reads the message. "What's wrong in Credonia? Send a reply asking for an explanation".

"Since the Credonian fleet is pulling out of the area, dispatch the 68th Attack Task Force to replace them".

"Will do, Your Majesty".

68th Attack Task Force
1 Cygnus Strike Carrier (30 F-14s)
10 Adelaide Class MTDs
18 ANZAC Class Frigates
5 Collins Class submarines
2 Huon Class minehunters
1 Durance Class Supply vessel (also is a hospital ship)
30 Sea Sprite helicopters
Credonia
08-12-2003, 08:53
"Sir, the Emperor of Isochronous requests an explanation why your leaving the area with the carrier division."

"Wire them an message that the division is heading back to the islands soon, it seems the conflict in Credonia has been solved for the time being and the military is moving back to normal operations. A second carrier group will join the 442nd and they will head back together."

"Yes sir Mr. President"


Meanwhile, the 442nd Carrier Division steams on towards Credonia to meet up with the 24th Carrier Division. Once they rendezvous, they will turn back and take up defensive positions around the Falkland Islands. President Sutton has at this time, ordered U-2S spy plane overflights of the islands to keep an eye on Talkosian forces as there seems to be an influx of them moving into the area.
08-12-2003, 09:04
Isochronous deploys the Blockade Brigade to the waters between Talkos and the Falkland Islands. Shipping traffic between Talkos and the Falklands continues, however no outside ships will be allowed to enter the straits, and ships between the Falklands and Talkos will be randomly inspected.

Blockade Brigade
20 ANZAC Class frigates
6 Aegis Destroyers
10 Adelaide Class MTDs
10 Collins Class submarines
25 Sea Sprite helicopters
Credonia
08-12-2003, 09:22
Upon rendezvous, the following Credonian carrier divisions are currently enroute to the Falkland Islands:

422nd Carrier Division
8 Oliver Hazard Perry Class Frigates
5 SSN Los Angeles Class Submarines
1 Freedom Class Aircraft Carrier
8 Manstein Class Destroyer
8 Rommel Class Battleship
8 Seydlitz Class Cruiser
5 Mao Adcanved Tactical Class Submarines

24th Carrier Division
7 Arleigh Burke Class Guided Missile Destroyers
1 EM-150 Dolphin/Piotr Hotamel Class Amphibious Assult Carrier
5 Clauswitz Class Frigates
5 Manstein Class Destroyers
5 Seydlitz Class Cruisers
7 Los Angeles Class Attack Submarines

http://www.vussp.org/falkland.gif
08-12-2003, 09:38
Talkos has one last chance. Agree to the treaty, with the extra clause that no Talkos military base can be established on the Falkland Islands.
Credonia
08-12-2003, 10:35
Secretly, Credonian military forces mobilize the 1st Army Infantry Division together with the 220th Fighter and 221st Support Squadron of the 23rd Tactical Fighter Wing and the 222nd and 223rd bomber squadrons of the 24th Bomber Wing:

1st Army Infantry Division
50,000 G.I.s
5,000 Medics
2,000 MP's
350 T-64 Tanks
100 KS1 SAMS
100 M-270 MLRS Rocket Artilliary
75 G6 155MM Self Propelled Howitzer's
200 M2 Bradley APC's
100 M103 Heavy Tanks
150 M-15 Light Tanks
100 M113A3 ADATS

23rd Tactical Fighter Wing
-220th Fighter Squadron
75 F-14 Ultra Tomcats

-221st Support Squadron
30 C-130H Hercules
30 KC-135R Stratotankers

24th Bomber Wing
-222nd Bomber Squadron
30 B-52 Stratofortress Bombers

-223rd Bomber Squadron
25 B-1B Lancer Strategic Bombers
08-12-2003, 11:22
The Isochronous blockade lines stretch from Port Stephens to the Sth American continent, and Westpoint Island to the continent. An ANZAC frigate stops a ship at random, boards it and inspects it. It finds weapons, and a piece of the paper at the bottom, saying: "The Dominion of Talkos".

Vice-Admiral Jeff Kennett, commander of the HMIS Preston Campbell, sends a message to The Decagon back in Isochronous to involve the head honchos of the discovery.
09-12-2003, 07:44
Bump.
Ozymandias IV
09-12-2003, 19:30
The Republic of Ozymandias IV also objects to the establishment of a Talkos military base within the Falklands.

In view of the growing international light on this little 'liberation' exercise, perhaps a strategic withdrawl from the region would be in order?

While no military troops are being sent to the region, the Republic will mobilise its Strategic Bomber Command.

Further, all Talkos financial assets within the Republic have been frozen and all businesses and citizens have been ordered to withdraw from Talkos territory for their own safety.

Nonessential staff at our embassy have been flown home, though our ambassador remains in the hopes that a last-minute solution can be worked out.

Umberto IV,
Secretary of Information

http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/lesotho.jpg (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=92022)
Republic of Ozymandias IV
United Elias
09-12-2003, 19:51
OOC: I know roughly what's going on, but I would like a summary of recent events and thecurrent situation inas much detail as possible. This would be highly appreciated.

Thanks.
09-12-2003, 20:21
If you really do want the country to be rebuilt and honestly have in mind the safety and well being of the people of the Falklands then let an international peacekeeping force in to oversee the procceedings. We feel what you have done is wrong but accept you cannot just abandon this bnation now, halfway through your rebuilding procedures, so please, think about what we are asking.
If you afree then we would be happy to send in a party of our own troops to oversee the operation.

Eliza Small, SD MoD
09-12-2003, 20:41
"What the hell is this 'rebuilding' everyone's talking about? The Falkland Islands' population is less than three thousand. They have homes and businesses, basic public services, a $25,000 per capita annual GDP, what is there to rebuild? Are they building a six hundred bed hospital for penguins? A motorway which would be wider than half the islands?"

-PM Powell speaking without much restraint on this morning's Breakfast With Cross, on VSBC-2.