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The Azn (Asian) Resistance

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East Islandia
27-11-2003, 04:26
Greetings one, greetings all! I call you here today, all nations with a large percentage of Asian peoples and Asian doctrines, and I call upon you to form an Azn Resistance! We will resist the tidings of the imperialists, the... err... white ppl? (juss kidding).

Actually, we will aid all Azn speaking nations (all nations actually, but azn nations in particular) and provide a unified front of defense against all those who seek to oppose us and those on our continent.

Of course, sympathetic non-Azn nations will be made honorary members with full member rights as Azn nations.

What say you, esteemed audience?

VIVA LA RESISTANCE!

OOC
now i juss have to draw up a charter.. hmmm
27-11-2003, 04:30
The nation of South Dalania would be interested in looking into this alliance.

South Dalania is primarily Korean-descent (90%) with Chinese and Japanese descent making up the remaining 10%.

OOC: What's your nationality? I'm a Korean-American.
East Islandia
27-11-2003, 04:39
OOC
im SOuthern Chinese.
Yeah i need to find the charter.

But basic requirements first:

NO IMPERIALISM
our people suffer from this shit enough already. DONT SPREAD IT!

NO GENOCIDE
ur stupid if u like killing ppl based on race for no reason

NO SLAVERY
slavery's immoral and wrong

There is no size requirement; you may apply for membership if you are a small nation, as we protect ALL nations. Non Azn nations pls give one instance of when you are suitable through past experiences with Azn nations, or a solid reason why you want to join. I mean, we would appreciate nations of ANY ethnicity in our alliance, but the resistance is for now, predominantly Azn.

You should be a reasonable RPer, and please no godmodding. Also give us an instance of a RP that may show your skills. If you're not old enough to RP in a major one, thats alrite; we'll accept you as long as u meet the other requirements above.

As an alliance, we share things; so we should share trade, and all the matter of economy and education. On technology... well that is somewaht difficult, but still, we will find a way somehow to make it profitable yet fair to all.

Still in progress, any thoughts, feel free to contribute
27-11-2003, 04:40
While I'm not Asian myself, I wholeheartedly support this alliance and would like to apply for honorary membership. I'm very anti-racist and see this as a positive group with well-meaning principles, which is the primary reason why I wan't to join
Dra-pol
27-11-2003, 04:41
The Choson People's Republic of Dra-pol expresses interest in this movement, having an ethnically harmonious Drapoel (Korean-ish, Dra-pol is in North Korea, IRL terms) population, and remaining even now under attack by western imperialists.

-Desk of Secretary Hotan.
27-11-2003, 04:48
OOC: Lol we've got both the South and North Koreans up in this

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2104618&highlight=#2104618

There's my RP example. That RP was a tactical style anti-terrorist RP.

OOC: I think this is a good idea, not just for Asian solidarity on NS, but also for acting as an anti-racist/anti-imperialist expression for those who aren't of Asian descent. Props to La Christiania for joining up :D
Western Navascuez
27-11-2003, 04:52
OOC: I think this is a good idea, not just for Asian solidarity on NS, but also for acting as an anti-racist/anti-imperialist expression for those who aren't of Asian descent. Props to La Christiania for joining up :D

Thanks, just wanna help out where I can :D

I have an RP from a puppet nation that I started (Western Navascuez); http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=97649. I'm not all that good yet, I still need to work on content and style, but I do my best not to godmod or be n00bish
East Islandia
27-11-2003, 04:53
Ah yes, so the list of recruits and converts is growing steady. (rubs hands together)

I rather like South Dalania's RPing, and Dra-pol is a good Rper (i kno from reading his prev. posts), so ur both in, if u want.

Come one, come ALL.
=)
Dra-pol
27-11-2003, 05:04
(Ah, you are too kind!)

Thankfully as yet Dra-pol does not have any specific hate for the South ;) The republic only emerged two years ago from nearly three generations of isolation. Some good news, however- this week republican elite troops -the Red Bamboo- set foot once more inside Pyongyang, begining the final liberation of that city, long occupied by a member of the invading coalition! (for interest: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=67430&start=380 )

Perhaps of more relevance is this thread http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=97357&highlight=
in which Dra-pol vows to defy the imperialist naval blockade and to initiate trade through the Yellow Sea, in the hope of reversing the trend of serious malnutrition suffered in the war-torn nation.

[/shamefull advertising]

(Heh, sorry- hope you don't consider it spam! Won't happen again ;) )
East Islandia
27-11-2003, 05:08
we are glad that Dra-pol has entered the Resistance to further the Azns (and hopefully the world also). (OOC to tell you the truth, we were trying to find you before, but i forgot how to spell ur nation's name)

Hm.. mayb we need a logo?

But i must leave now, so i bid all a fond goodnight on this side of the Pacific and if anyone applies while i'm gone, i'll come back to check it out afterwards.
_Taiwan
27-11-2003, 11:44
The Republic of Taiwan is interested in forming constructve ties with this alliance, and wishes to join.

OOC: Hong Kong- New Zealander.
East Islandia
27-11-2003, 18:12
o yea and NO RACISM as ur nation's official policy either
27-11-2003, 18:19
Has my membership been approved?
East Islandia
27-11-2003, 18:23
o yes, sorry about that... La Christiania is part of the Azn resistance.

Here is LE list of Les members.

Canada Germany
Five Civilized Nations
Marimaia
Neo Facists Union
Spyr
Yaman
Soviet China II
Taiwan
South Dalania
Western Navascuez
La Christiania
Tokarev
Stonies
Hukbalahap
PRC China
Paradise X
Glorious Humanity
Agrigento
Xiaguo
Lost Hills

We seek new recruits
imported_Xiaguo
28-11-2003, 17:11
Xiaguo is also willing to join this Alliance.
I am Chinese American, Xiaguo means "Perfect Nation" in Ancient Chinese. My nation is based on Communist-Nationalist based and I wish to promote a Humane Society and Reinforce the Genova Accords.
My nation, Xiaguo consists of 60%Chinese, 30%Korean, 6%Japanese, and 4%other. I don't now if you want to really take this to mind, I during war-time prefare using our Navy as we promote them as our highest and most efficient Sector of The Millitary. We are against (Agressive Imperialists and Fascists)Including Dictatorship regimes--

I am very nationalist on not but One Chinese Peoples, but all Asians throughout the world. I wish to defend our Asian allies and comrades and promote security for Asian people and the ones who believe in Peace and humanity's Given Rights.-Thank you.

My RPing is I think not so good, may have some godmodding but I'm trying to improve, EI you know how I rp, in Japann war.
Agrigento
29-11-2003, 06:22
*coughEI...youknowmecough*
Glorious Humanity
29-11-2003, 06:38
Though we are not a predominantly Asian nation, the Federation of Glorious Humanity has an Asian minority and completely support the ideals of this alliance. We would like to join this coalition.

Mark Albert
President
Federation of Glorious Humanity

OOC: For examples of my RP, please refer to Rise Against A-Corp (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=98485) for an example of war RP, and Nekoa Bay Negotiations (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=94668) for an example of diplomatic RP.
East Islandia
30-11-2003, 03:17
AG and Glorious Humanity are both on the alliance.

So is Paradise X
Five Civilized Nations
30-11-2003, 03:25
The Five Civilized Nations will be glad to join... Over 60% of my human population are of Asian descent...

OOC: I'm from Shanghai, China...
30-11-2003, 03:25
Although the Majority of my Country is formed of Blacks and Hispanics, I the President of Paradise X and 46% of my Country are Asian, myself being of Filipino/British Descent.

Paradise X, would like to join this Asian Organisation and is willing to donate a percentage of our Economy to the cause :roll:
Lost Hills
30-11-2003, 03:26
The Armed Republic of Lost Hills is interested in joining this fine organization. We would like to see the oppressors of the world taken down.

OOC: I am Southern Chinese (Zhengzhou), but I've since migrated to the States.
East Islandia
30-11-2003, 04:00
WElcome Lost Hills.

In an hour, I will try to post the official charter of hte Azn Resistance. Anyone have any specific suggestions to include?
East Islandia
01-12-2003, 02:16
BUMP
_Taiwan
02-12-2003, 04:38
BUMP (We need more members)
East Islandia
02-12-2003, 19:20
bumpED
COMeON AZN NATIONS!!!
02-12-2003, 19:45
Tokarev is located on the Crimean penninsula, and as such 80% of the population is Russian or other Eastern European, and about 20% Muslim, Arab, and Asian. We are interested in looking into this alliance.
East Islandia
02-12-2003, 21:35
please consider, Tokarev.
03-12-2003, 06:27
Due to the recent collapse of my other alliance, I have elected to join this one. Count us in.
PRC China
03-12-2003, 06:31
We would be honored to join such an organization, honoring our culture, and to show the world that Asia and China united will not be bullied easily, as presented in the case of Mallberta's imperalistic's invasion of China. We would liek to apply for membership.

Long live People's Republic of China!
Long live the Asian and Chinese resistance!
Long live the Chinese people!
Death to western imperalism and oppression!

--Chen Pingyan,
Spokesman of the PRC China Foreign Affairs Ministry

OOC: I'm also controlling the nation of Omz222, plus a few others. Fron northern China, with a Northeastern background here. Nice to meet other fellow Chinese/Asians here :)
03-12-2003, 06:48
My nation would like voice its opposition to the creation of this alliance.

Firstly, by creating an alliance based on a specific race/ethnicity, you are promoting one ethnicity over another. In short, you are practicing favortism based on race alone.

Secondly, alliances are responsible for many conflicts. World War I was set off by a system of alliances. One nation mobilized, others followed suit, and soon the world was erupted in bloodshed.

With that being said, I think it is obvious we will not be seeking membership.

OOC: I'm actually Asian too, but I dislike the AzN PrYdE people...
Hukbalahap
03-12-2003, 06:50
Hukbalahap is certainly interested in joining this alliance. As we are a Filipino nation and socialist, we would like to extend our hand in friendship with our brothers in Asia. Also we shall alert the nations in our region to this event.

-Prime Minister Tarnax

OOC: As long as you dont mention eating certain animals we are very enthusiastic about this idea. However we dont mind rapping some bars from any aZn pride songs :D
03-12-2003, 06:53
OOC: AzN pRydErS...*shudders* hopefully everyone here is mature enough to keep that crap to themselves. NS is definitely not the place for hardcore riceboys.
Dra-pol
03-12-2003, 06:55
DaKhiem contends that the nature of the alliance is largely born of convenience and some political commonality.
Most western nations do not experience and have not experienced the most oppressive aspects of imperialism -something more common in Asia. Other regional alliances exist without contention.
Further, it is clear that the alliance is not exclusive or elitist- Tokarev is majority non-Asian.

Alliances can be vital. Without support the Choson People's Republic of Dra-pol would be suffering even more greatly in the face of on-going Christian capitalist invasion from the west.

-Central Directorature consular channel 78B.
_Taiwan
03-12-2003, 11:40
OOC: AzN pRydErS...*shudders* hopefully everyone here is mature enough to keep that crap to themselves. NS is definitely not the place for hardcore riceboys.

OOC: I know one nation that RPs as an ultra-nationalist China.
03-12-2003, 13:09
03-12-2003, 13:13
The Free land of the Stonies is a multicultural nation, many of our citizens have some asian filiation (OOC: i'm belgian, italian, english and chinese and lived in Vietnam).
We had to struggle against imperialism and occupation during theNano Soft-Stonies war (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=85382). Nano Soft constantly violated UN geneva conventions during this war: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2244073

Our army (http://users.skynet.be/bk286933/nationstates/definitif/definitif.htm) is rather small but efficient, specialized in rapid projection means.
We will be glad to join the alliance.
East Islandia
03-12-2003, 14:50
Ahem.

PRC China is accepted
Hukbalahap is accepted
Stonies is accepted

As for Exonerate... no one said that we were promoting Azns over all other ppls... note that we accept and welcome non Azn members.
We are creating our alliance out of necessity, as those nations without alliances can still be invaded by those who are part of an alliance. Besides, we resist ALL unjustified aggression; may i ask what is so wrong with that?

OOC
You dislike Azn pryde ppl? Great man... whats the use of being a member of any nationality and not being proud of it?
Sigh
East Islandia
03-12-2003, 15:01
Alrite all members please either Tgram me or post on this thread about what you would like to include on our charter. The most important parts concern intervention, anti-imperialism and anti-slavery, and joint exercises, and possibly even a joint Rapid Reaction Force or some kind of alliance wide intervention unit; also, the exchange of valuable technologies and trade is also of tantamount importance. Needless to say, we must divy up the economic contributions to the alliance somehow based on our economies and such.

OOC
Also, i was thinking of assigning positions to the member nations, such as:
Vice President
Financier
Head of tactics and development
Head of joint trade
Councilor for extra-alliance relations
Councilor for intra alliance relations


Any1 good at math or organizing things?
Please respond, all members
Lykneer
03-12-2003, 16:49
The Incorporated States of Lykneer looks towards a unity between east and west. Indeed the people of Lykneer are a large melting put with a large Asian population (OCC I'm 50% mestizo/chinese filipino and 50% English). Resistance against the west is futile; acceptance is key. So let's work with the only working system, capitalism!
East Islandia
04-12-2003, 00:38
BUMP

resistance members please respond to the requirement for positions within our alliance listed two posts above by me.
Omz222
04-12-2003, 00:57
OOC: AzN pRydErS...*shudders* hopefully everyone here is mature enough to keep that crap to themselves. NS is definitely not the place for hardcore riceboys.
OOC: Excuse me? Did we get to the point where we interrupt every person that says America or England or Canada is better and say that China/Korea/Philipine/Japan/etc. pwnz0r them all? There are also American Patriots here, or Canada lovers, no suprises.

IC:

---Posting for PRC China---

Excellent. We will immediately suggest a few ideas that will benefit all of us nations that resides in Asia and have Asian influence.

--Foreign Affairs Ministry
People's Republic of China

---Posting for PRC China---
04-12-2003, 01:14
04-12-2003, 01:17
04-12-2003, 01:51
Ahem.

PRC China is accepted
Hukbalahap is accepted
Stonies is accepted

As for Exonerate... no one said that we were promoting Azns over all other ppls... note that we accept and welcome non Azn members.
We are creating our alliance out of necessity, as those nations without alliances can still be invaded by those who are part of an alliance. Besides, we resist ALL unjustified aggression; may i ask what is so wrong with that?

OOC
You dislike Azn pryde ppl? Great man... whats the use of being a member of any nationality and not being proud of it?
Sigh
I'm aware of that, but why put the Asian thing in your alliance then? Also, you sold the alliance as protecting against "the tidings of the imperialists"

Its not like only Asia was the subject of colonization.

"Actually, we will aid all Azn speaking nations (all nations actually, but azn nations in particular)"
In particular denotes favortism.

OOC: I dislike the people going around tYpeNG liK DiZ and run around claiming that Asians are the best, etc, while acting like wanna-be gangsters. And I personally don't see why nationalism is considered such a good thing...
Hukbalahap
04-12-2003, 01:59
Hukbalahap accepts the invitation and asks from its allies to form a rapid reaction force. Not long ago TROUSRS invaded the Philippines with others from Lichenstein and only with help from Lykneer and Banaybanay did we expel the intruders.

Also we ask that we draw up plans to retake the region Mongolia as it was invaded as well.

OOC: i dont find anything particularly offensive about azn pryde. i mean i am from nyc and it isnt as visible here, but i can understand why others might criticize it. yet at the same time i am sick and tired of the stereotype of asians being passive

OOC: at least its not called the East Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere!
Glorious Humanity
04-12-2003, 02:10
The Federation of Glorious Humanity would be willing to become the Councilor for Extra-Alliance Relations. We've been involved in several diplomatic and peacekeeping activities, and you can be assured we will not use our position to try to bully anyone.

As for charter points, I think one should be made about the military nature of the alliance. This body is intended to be a mutual trade and defense pact, not an assault force. Thus, the alliance will only support member nations that are under unprovoked attack. We will not support any form of expantionary or imperialistic behavior, or the consequences of it. (In other words, if one of the member nations invades another nation for no reason, and then gets invaded in turn by allies of the nation it attacked, don't expect the alliance to pull you out of the fire you started).

Frank Pierce
Minister of International Relations
Federation of Glorious Humanity
Lost Hills
04-12-2003, 02:12
I dislike the people going around tYpeNG liK DiZ and run around claiming that Asians are the best, etc, while acting like wanna-be gangsters.

I don't see anyone doing that here, and I'm sure that we won't see anyone doing that here.

Also we ask that we draw up plans to retake the region Mongolia as it was invaded as well.

We are looking for a lack of imperialism, not the opposite.

OOC: AzN pRydErS...*shudders* hopefully everyone here is mature enough to keep that crap to themselves. NS is definitely not the place for hardcore riceboys.

Yes, this is obviously a concern, but it probably won't see any problems of that here. If we do, then I'm sure that it will be dealt with in a swift and efficient manner.
Neo Fascist Utopia
04-12-2003, 02:23
Our Utopian Society would like to join your alliance. We are a safe haven for Shinobi and other practisers of Jutsu alike.

OOC: ( Nat - Vietnamese )
Hukbalahap
04-12-2003, 02:34
Here at Hukbalahap apologize for putting forth any notions of retaking Mongolia. We were distressed by TROUSRS and his cohorts celebrating their annexation of Philippines and other regions on Liechenstein's regional board. In our haste for justice, we were blinded by misplaced aggression.

So we are every ready to support a mutual defense pact which would be beneficial in our security.

Also we would not mind lowering trade barriers to facilitate better relations among our countries.
Agrigento
04-12-2003, 04:00
Hey, don't call Will (EI) a wannabe gangster. Jesus man, you know nothing about him in RL. He is so against that its not even funny. Why do you people always rush to judgement on things like this.... Thats just how he typed it, leave the man alone.
East Islandia
04-12-2003, 04:01
Alrite... So anyways, Exonerate is misinformed.

Ahem.
Current positions: (all who object, please tgram me or notify us on the thread)
Financier-Lost Hills
Councilor for Extra Alliance relations- GLorious Humanity
Councilor for internal relations- TBA (all who seek a position please tgram me)
Head of Tactical R&D- TBA (I suggest Agrigento, as he has immeasurable experience dealing with the design of craft)
Alliance Wide Security- TBA (in charge of assessing the alliance's readiness and organizing various tactical and strategic level exercises)
Intelligence- heads the intelligence operations; TBA
Social Committee/peacetime R&D Head-TBA
the social committee will be in charge of reforms and Research of a civilian nature throughout various nations, should you want it.

Of course, nations are welcome to join as many committees as they deem possible, even if they arent the head.
NFU has been accepted.

hukbalahap, the invasion of the Phillipines will not be repeated; our resistance will seee to it. For now, i will be our leader, but after we are organized, i will probably step down into some other role.

GG now.. goodnite from NY
Long live the resistance
East Islandia
04-12-2003, 04:03
OOC: I dislike the people going around tYpeNG liK DiZ and run around claiming that Asians are the best, etc, while acting like wanna-be gangsters. And I personally don't see why nationalism is considered such a good thing...

So now I'm a wannabe? I type "azn" and im a wannabe?
Great man.. i live in the whitest town on LI (no offense to our beloved white ppl) and i'm a wannabe martial artist and sanshou fighter, NOT a wannabe gangsta.

Anyways, please apply to our positions; we need to get going as soon as possible.

Goodnite.
_Taiwan
04-12-2003, 04:24
OOC: Everyone is so left-wing and politically correct these days. They get offended so easily.

IC: Any remaining positions for me?
East Islandia
04-12-2003, 14:56
OOC: Everyone is so left-wing and politically correct these days. They get offended so easily.

IC: Any remaining positions for me?

everything except financier, intelligence (hubalakhap) and councilor for extra alliance relations. Also, we desperately are in need of an INTRA alliance relations councilor to facilitate trade and exchange of ideas. Also, we desperately need a head of security and readiness as well as some ppl to serve on the Social Committee.
Marimaia
04-12-2003, 18:42
The Suunist People's Republic of Marimaia would like to join your fine organisation; we draw our ancestry from Chinese, Japanese and Koreans (explained here: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=93894&highlight= ), and we believe that solidarity with our brothers and sisters is the best way to go.

Feel free to place us where you think we would best serve. Maybe something to do with the Social Committee?
04-12-2003, 20:29
Tokarev would like to take up the helm of the head of Alliance Wide Security. Our economy is one of the strongest in the Alliance, and we have an incredibly well-funded and organized Navy (our Army/Air Force are relatively underdeveloped, but the Navy more then makes up for it).
Soviet China II
05-12-2003, 09:23
The USSSC II government would be willing to join this Asian Alliance. We are 90% Chinese, 10% Korean.
05-12-2003, 09:35
OOC: I dislike the people going around tYpeNG liK DiZ and run around claiming that Asians are the best, etc, while acting like wanna-be gangsters. And I personally don't see why nationalism is considered such a good thing...

So now I'm a wannabe? I type "azn" and im a wannabe?
Great man.. i live in the whitest town on LI (no offense to our beloved white ppl) and i'm a wannabe martial artist and sanshou fighter, NOT a wannabe gangsta.

Anyways, please apply to our positions; we need to get going as soon as possible.

Goodnite.
OOC: I never said that you were one; I just get tired of people running around and sticking AzN into everything. Ok, you're Asian, that's fine, but do I really need half of the online Asian population sticking it in their handle? Sorry, its just a pet peeve of mine...

And I personally don't have an adversion to alliances, I'm just staying in-character for my country.
_Taiwan
05-12-2003, 09:51
OOC: Everyone is so left-wing and politically correct these days. They get offended so easily.

IC: Any remaining positions for me?

everything except financier, intelligence (hubalakhap) and councilor for extra alliance relations. Also, we desperately are in need of an INTRA alliance relations councilor to facilitate trade and exchange of ideas. Also, we desperately need a head of security and readiness as well as some ppl to serve on the Social Committee.

OOC: Hubalakhap?
IC:

Minister of Intra-Alliance Trade?
Western Navascuez
05-12-2003, 12:48
What's the Social Committee?
Five Civilized Nations
05-12-2003, 15:38
I'll take R&D...
05-12-2003, 15:41
***OOC***

just thought I'd let you guys know that I'm having an election, and one of my candidates is pro-joining the AZN alliance. The threats got my nation name in the topic, so it sholdn't be hard to find.
East Islandia
05-12-2003, 15:43
Alrite, before i appoint people, please give reasons for appointing you (past experience, qualifications, etc)

Taiwan, what would make you qualified for intra alliance relations?

Social Committee carries out research into civilian techs like medical aid, food aid (a big one would be food preservation techniques as many nations suffer from famine) and other sciences geared towards helpign civilians. Also, they coordinate humanitarian aid with the Council for Extra Alliance relations to help destitute countries outside our alliance.

Tokarev has been appointed to the position of HEad of alliance wide security.

ONce again, it shoudl be noted that there are always multiple people who may help on one council and that the Councilor/head of the council is bound to listen to their objections/input, and then act as he/she sees fit, unless the head of the resistance overrides them or if sixty percent calls for dissent.

Charter drafting begins tonight. Put in ALL your suggestions adn input (if you havent done so already), and please feel free to contribute to the drafting, which will be carried out on this thread.
Five Civilized Nations
05-12-2003, 15:48
The Five Civilized Nations is probably the most developed of the nations in the AZN... In addition, we maintain substantial alliances with many nations in NS. The 5CN works on several R&D projects with other nations. Because of the network of alliances and these R&D projects, the 5CN has substantial power of the scientific mind...
East Islandia
05-12-2003, 15:49
For R&D we have two contenders, Agrigento and Five Civilized Nations. Please put forth a list of your projects so that I may suggest positions for the two of you on the board of R&D.

Also, I'm looking for skilled organizers to help me put this into order and to help me draft the resolutions. Anyone up for the challenge?

class is over... bb in a few hours, mayb at five pm tonite (Eastern AMerican Time)
Five Civilized Nations
05-12-2003, 15:52
The Five Civilized Nations mainly concentrates on submarine and space research... We have space exploration vessels cruising everywhere... In addition, we maintain both a submarine and a spacecraft storefront... For the submarines, we are planning to work with Freedom Country to produce a new powerful SSN and is helping Ozymandias IV build its own fleet of submarines...

I'll help you draft the resolutions, if you want...
Jeruselem
05-12-2003, 16:03
OOC

I'm Chinese, but most folks don't realise this as my IC is very Christo-Judiac imperialism.
Dra-pol
05-12-2003, 16:05
(God damn those Christian imperialists! -shakes fist at Quinntonian Dra-pol-)
Marimaia
05-12-2003, 16:44
Marimaia would like to put our name forward for the Social Committee. We successfully reformed ourselves from backwater to powerhouse, so we can provide poorer nations with ways to reform their own economies or whatever it is they need reforming. In addition, several of the Concerns have been working on various civilian projects, such as communication systems, construction and more efficient mining techniques.

We also have experience with large construction projects, such as oil pipelines, dams, etc.
East Islandia
05-12-2003, 17:38
Marimaia is named the head of the Social committee.

FCN will help me draft resolutions, and is on the Tactical R&D Council, and so is Agrigento.

so is Jeruselem and prespolis joining?
05-12-2003, 17:40
05-12-2003, 17:40
Marimaia is named the head of the Social committee.

FCN will help me draft resolutions, and is on the Tactical R&D Council, and so is Agrigento.

so is Jeruselem and prespolis joining?

The nation of Prespolis will only join if the Pro-AZN Aliiance candidate, Iver Reitan, wins in the current elections, unfortunately he is trailing in the polls, some help might be nice.
Jeruselem
05-12-2003, 17:45
Marimaia is named the head of the Social committee.

FCN will help me draft resolutions, and is on the Tactical R&D Council, and so is Agrigento.

so is Jeruselem and prespolis joining?

Sorry, I enjoy being an imperialist too much and my nation name is too obviously non-Asian.
East Islandia
05-12-2003, 21:56
bump
East Islandia
06-12-2003, 03:53
I have an outline; FCN, AG, help me out with this part. Everyone else please contribute in any way possible and please speak up if dissatisfied.

Charter of the Azn Resistance:

1) Donts:
Dont support slavery:
to condone the enslavement of a person based on race or on previous actions is immoral and illegal (please scale back on labor camps and such)

Dont support Imperialism:
Imperialism is wrong; to dominate a country economically, culturally, and politically robs the people of that area of their pride and is very degrading, as well as dangerous since it tends to inspire nationalism and hence long wars.

Dont support genocide:
killing based on race, religion, or becuase the person is a member of any religious or political entity is wrong.

Dont randomly sell off nuclear weapons without checking the background of your clients first; more to come on this later.

Violation of the first three donts will result in immediate ejection and possibly war.

2) The "resisting" part:
If any nation of the Azn Resistance comes under a foreign power because of imperialism, genocidal wants, or any aggression not of their doing will be supported in full by the rest of the resistance. If the nation was responsible for the aggression, we will immediate call for talks and intervene by holding negotiations and cease fires until the issue is resolved; afterwards, punishment will be decided.

An alliance wide rapid deployment/reaction force will be created under the direction of the Council for Alliance Wide Security in conjunction with the Intra Alliance relations council. All nations must determine their economy and population and what and how they will contribute to this force, which will be composed of:
A parachute/airborne force
armored/motorized rifle forces
air forces, including air support
naval
atmospheric, possibly space
and strategic/missile defense

3) Trade and information transfer
For the most part, we will have free trade. Please no tax/trade wars and tariffs if that can be avoided; temporary tariffs for protection are acceptable, as well as limited forms of legislation that slow the flow of goods from countries within the resistance in order to stimulate the economy. Nations on the Inter Alliance Relations Council, please look into this matter and draft further legislation if necessary.
For the most part, information transfer will be free, except in the area of military tech; for that, please give a discount to alliance members, and unless you are working on an alliance wide military research project, you are not obligated to share your tech with other nations. They may ask, and pay the appropriate fees, but you do not HAVE to give it to them.

We would, of course, prefer it that you do.

In order to make the above tech transfers feasible, we would like to standardize our patenting processes to a fair, rapid scale that may approve patents and doctrinations for alliance sharing tech quickly. This is not to say that your patent offices will be replaced by ours, but that there will simply be another process to protect the rights of those creators/inventors who fear having their productions and works sold off without their consent.

4) Social exchanges
We are a resistance against aggression, but we are also a resistance against ignorance, famine, drought, and whatever else that may plague the nations of the world. Hence, the Social committee has been charged with coordinating with individual countries and the inter alliance relations council to find areas where one is lacking and to advise as well as aid on them. THe Social Committee must be endowed with all the manner of machinery/beneficial civilian technologies, such as public worx, clean energy sources, and all the matter of research that we are carrying on. this does not mean that you are obligated to carry on civ. research with the nations of the SC, nor that you MUST give us the results, but if we ask you, we would very much like the results.
You will, of course, be recompensated.

5) Contributions
As stated earlier, we need money and soldiers to form a workign alliance. So every nation please give money and troops or tech to support us.
This does not mean that every nation will HAVE to send troops, but if you send fewer troops, you must send more aid in other terms, such as money or civ. tech.

Financier (Lost Hills) please look into this matter.

6) Also, a capitol will be established. A popular vote among the nations will decide where we go (please post pix of ur cities and descriptions and individual nations are NOT allowed to vote for cities within their own territory.

Further additions will be added on to ensure human rites and such, but i need more input on that matter.

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE Respond

Thanx.

EI.
Five Civilized Nations
06-12-2003, 03:55
I'll look it over, edit it and post it on sunday...
Lost Hills
06-12-2003, 03:57
Looking pretty good. I was thinking about maybe a percentage-based contribution, probably relatively low. I think all of the nations will be able to donate some military surplus to this, I know I will.

Once I get a working member list, I'll start putting together possible contribution numbers.
East Islandia
06-12-2003, 04:01
Current positions: (all who object, please tgram me or notify us on the thread)

Head of the Resistance- East Islandia, for now. will step down if called for after the structure of the alliance is solidified.

Financier-Lost Hills

Councilor for Extra Alliance relations- GLorious Humanity

Councilor for internal relations- TBA, pending postings of qualificatoins
(Taiwan and Western Navascuez have both applied)

Interim Head of Tactical R&D-
comes down to a showdown btwn Agrigento and FCN. Will decide on popular vote, deadline for vote is next wednesday (five days).

Alliance Wide Security- Tokarev

Intelligence- Hubalakhap

Social Committee/peacetime R&D Head- Marimaia

Draft Councilors:
FCN
Agrigento

Advisors to all the councilors are ALWAYS welcome, and even if you're not an advisor, you are ALWAYS free to post helpful input.
Lost Hills
06-12-2003, 04:07
Alright, since most of our economies are ridiculously good, I'm considering a 3-4% contribution of the nation's total budget, working on a 12 RL day per NS year cycle.

Of course, this percentage can be reduced with contribution of military hardware, trade agreements, personnel, etc.

If anyone has any thoughts on this, please respond.
East Islandia
06-12-2003, 04:09
Smashing idea, Lost Hills. Excellent work.

Anyone else?
Agrigento
06-12-2003, 04:15
Drago 3000 (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=83308&highlight=)

Bad Neighbor Self Propelled Artillery (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=57284&highlight=)

Grizzly Bear Bomber (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=85286&highlight=)

Land Warrior System (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=78118&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20)

Giavellotto Close Air Support (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=99743&highlight=)

Invictus Class Battleship, I did the OOC design on it for a friend (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=99197&start=0)

EMP Missiles, scroll down (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=89470&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0)

Dragonfly Long Ranger Bomber, Second Post (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=77663&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0)

Combattente Naval Multirole Fighter (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=87418&start=0)

I have designed Several Types of Catamaran Warships, but alas have no pictures because my scanner is not working. EI can attest to their combat effectiveness and the soundness of their design.

These are some of the more recent things I have done, I am about to release a Tilt-Rotor Gunship and a Top Secret Spy plane in the next couple of days as well.

Please look into my storefront (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=87067&start=0), as I have made my own modifications to some items, like the C1 Ariete Mk. 3, which has been heavily modified by my designers.

ooc: Currently on my computer I have partially completed designs for a GMLRS and ICBM, that I have yet to complete. Will be done shortly tho.
Western Navascuez
06-12-2003, 04:20
To add on to Lost Hills' point, 3-4% sounds like a great contribution rate, and it shouldn't even dent your economy if it's strong enough. I'll be donating four percent since my economy's already at Powerhouse and only going up from there.

As to Western Navascuez' qualifications for the Council on Internal Relations, this "nation" of mine has been doing a great job of keeping the country together during our revolutionary process we're going through. We are neutral towards all but one member of the alliance (Christiania), yet I see this as even more of a reason to put Navascuez on this council, since I'll be able to efficiently and properly address the escalating rivalries between us two nations. In Western Navascuez' fifty year history, there have been no violent rebellions against the governing powers, which I feel goes to show how well we can handle situations among factions. If there's any questions about anything, please feel free to ask
Agrigento
06-12-2003, 04:21
Personally I am a fan of using non-set amounts of military contributions. Such as those used in the ANH (another Alliance I am in). If an ally asks for help we send it, but I suppose you guys really want this set unit....
Lost Hills
06-12-2003, 04:26
Well, the money isn't going to be used exclusively for military purposes. This isn't a totally military alliance, and a large part of the money will probably go to humanitarian projects and the like. A set contribution amount will make sure that we have these funds, and make sure that we don't have a massive deficit because we have no money for operations.

Anyway, I'm signing off for the night, and I'll check any new developments in the morning.
East Islandia
06-12-2003, 04:28
Personally I am a fan of using non-set amounts of military contributions. Such as those used in the ANH (another Alliance I am in). If an ally asks for help we send it, but I suppose you guys really want this set unit....

The set contribution can vary, as a nation may contribute more troops or tech. BEsides, our humanitarian aid efforts and our defence requires it.

As for Western Navascuez, you are given the position, if no one else objects. If someone else does, then you two will present lists of credentials again, arguments, proposed reforms, and we will vote (like we are doing with AG and FCN).

OOC
feel free to recommend anything azn or non azn, like music, movies, food, restaurants (if we live in teh surrounding area) and events.
Agrigento
06-12-2003, 06:20
el bumpo
_Taiwan
06-12-2003, 07:44
Taiwan is the founder of the region United China, which has stayed together due to Chen Shui Bian's meditation of internal problems (*cough*( excessive nationalism) between member nations.
06-12-2003, 07:50
Our National Language is Chinese, English, and Russian.

We need a funding of 500 trillion dollars for Peace.



OOC: I'm a Chinese American.
Dra-pol
06-12-2003, 08:11
Five hundred trillion dollars? :shock:

What're you doing, buying western Europe?

That's the entire gross world product (IRL) for a decade!
Lost Hills
06-12-2003, 18:02
Alright, I've made my calculations and I've come up with a working figure for the budget:

$3,773,660,020,060

This is working on a 3.5% flat contribution by all members. If you would like to know your individual contribution, please TG me.
East Islandia
06-12-2003, 20:42
dam thats a big budget
Marimaia
07-12-2003, 00:01
dam thats a big budget

How's it going to be split? Is it just a case of each council/committee taking what they need when they need it, or will they have a set budget?
07-12-2003, 00:02
I am very interested in this, I am.

The Great Battousai
Himura Kenshin

http://mantrha.de/bilder/rurouni_kenshin.jpg
East Islandia
07-12-2003, 00:22
dam thats a big budget

How's it going to be split? Is it just a case of each council/committee taking what they need when they need it, or will they have a set budget?

i suppose that each committee has a set budget and request more for certain projects. Lost Hills any ideas? Committee heads, how much do you think you will need?
07-12-2003, 00:28
My military budget is approximately $335,792,606,752, of which about 300 billion goes into the my various research projects, paying salaries, and keeping my fleets/army maintained. So that means I have approximately 36 billion free to add to Lost Hill's budget on a yearly basis.





I think that 36 billion will cover most of my expenses.










Also, I think I should oversee the development of an Alliance-Wide Defensive Force, composing of an allied fleet, air force, and armed forces.
Lost Hills
07-12-2003, 01:20
i suppose that each committee has a set budget and request more for certain projects. Lost Hills any ideas? Committee heads, how much do you think you will need?

I'm planning on forming an appropriations sub-commitee to deal with this. With so much money, they need to make sure that it isn't wasted. Anyone interested in the job can let me know.

I think that 36 billion will cover most of my expenses.

Depending on what you will do, it might or might not, we'll have to see.

Also, I think I should oversee the development of an Alliance-Wide Defensive Force, composing of an allied fleet, air force, and armed forces.

$36 billion might not cover the expenses of an entire army.
07-12-2003, 01:26
I know it will not cover the expenses of an entire army. For the development of an Alliance-Wide Defensive Force, the money would be contributed by various nations, plus the money from my storefront. I have already made about 70 billion from my storefront in a matter of hours, so for today alone I have over 100 billion to go towards the creation of an army, not to mention however much will be donated by other nations, and how much I can pull out of other areas of my national budget.
Lost Hills
07-12-2003, 01:31
Alright, I'll start the appropriation process. If nobody has any objections, I submit to allocate $250,000,000,000 out of the budget to begin the foundations of a Rapid Reaction Force for alliance-wide security.
Agrigento
07-12-2003, 01:51
As the Interim head of R&D, as of now, I feel that the R&D section will require a large budget, substantially larger than many of the other commitees. Now the problem with the use of many storefronts is that unless your a communist nation the money is diverted through Private companies. While storefronts do contribute to the over flow of cash in ur country, they do not translate directly into applicable funds.

Unless, we create a alliance wide private enterprise, selling goods, and making investments....that way we can have money that directly translates into the budget for our various commitees.
Agrigento
07-12-2003, 02:01
Alright, I'll start the appropriation process. If nobody has any objections, I submit to allocate $250,000,000,000 out of the budget to begin the foundations of a Rapid Reaction Force for alliance-wide security.

I already have troops set aside for such an Alliances. (Left over from when I left a region). Did we decide on set percentage of troops, or just contributions?
07-12-2003, 02:02
So far it is just contributions. Besides Lost Hills 250 billion, I have 100 billion to contribute, plus how much of my standing forces I am willing to add.
New Daamfeck
07-12-2003, 02:04
Resistance against what? The oppression of the whitey? And what's an 'Azn speaking nation'? Just wondering.
East Islandia
07-12-2003, 02:06
Hmmm... I suppose Agrigento has a good point.. Still, if we do operate a business on an alliance wide scale, then what would we sell? And how much would get back to the resistance instead of to individual companies and such?

I for one will set aside various businesses for the resistance, like charge them taxes and divert those funds to the Resistance's budget. I am also in favor of an alliance wide business, but i just dont know what we would sell.

And for the Rapid Reaction Force, i suppose we would have to standardize their technology somewhat. We should also diversify their training in order to make them more flexible (EI and AG put great emphasis on how our soldiers apply their training) and teach them how to deal with the varied technologies, tactics, and enemies they will encounter.

So I will issue an alliance wide call for each nation's tactics, main military tech (like small details, not production plans, and how they would be integrated into your tactics), elite units, and possibly one or two instances of tactical and strategic situations. Also, I am putting forth a call for the subcommittee that Lost Hills asked for; all who wish to join, please apply immediately.
East Islandia
07-12-2003, 02:07
Resistance against what? The oppression of the whitey? And what's an 'Azn speaking nation'? Just wondering.

Not really oppression of a whitey... oppression by anyone really. And also, Azn speaking nations are nations with a sizeable Azn percentage. We also resist (metaphorically) ignorance, famine, civil war, and strife, and we are proabbly going to take on a larger, humanitarian role in NS.
_Taiwan
07-12-2003, 02:08
OOC: Regarding storefronts, remember to subtract the cost of goods sold from your revenue.
Lost Hills
07-12-2003, 02:08
As the Interim head of R&D, as of now, I feel that the R&D section will require a large budget, substantially larger than many of the other commitees. Now the problem with the use of many storefronts is that unless your a communist nation the money is diverted through Private companies. While storefronts do contribute to the over flow of cash in ur country, they do not translate directly into applicable funds.

This is why we have the contributions from the nation's budgets themselves. If you feel that it is neccessary to have a large budget for R&D, I will appropriate the neccessary funds. I think $800,000,000,000 sounds good to start out with. However, we expect results! :)

Unless, we create a alliance wide private enterprise, selling goods, and making investments....that way we can have money that directly translates into the budget for our various commitees.

This sounds like a good idea. Would this be an alliance-run military storefront, or something else?

Resistance against what? The oppression of the whitey? And what's an 'Azn speaking nation'? Just wondering.

Read the charter on page 4.
Agrigento
07-12-2003, 02:09
Well, EI, in the fashion of RL international organizations, we do not have to standardize. I suggest we do like NATO's ACE and such.
Sketch
07-12-2003, 02:12
AZN Pride alliance....hmmmm, interesting. Perhaps i should point out that I run a region named AZN Pride. Come and visit.

Shamelessly promoting my region....
East Islandia
07-12-2003, 02:13
sigh... I'm sry, but i'm a bit behind on techniques of having multiple nations as I'm used to doing it alone with only Agrigento or Taiwan along for the ride.

So what is ACE? And how does it allow diverse techs and nations to work together?

ideas on alliance wide tactics? Tokarev, this is your area; what do you think?
Lost Hills
07-12-2003, 02:13
AZN Pride alliance....hmmmm, interesting. Perhaps i should point out that I run a region named AZN Pride. Come and visit.

Shamelessly promoting my region....

Any of your fellow region members want to join this alliance?
Agrigento
07-12-2003, 02:22
East Islandia
07-12-2003, 02:30
I hereby drop the standardization thing...

dammit i got confused and didnt actually mean to say that, so never mind. But we should still see where evryone is and try and get on an equal footing wit each other.

I have also heard concerns about throwing away lives of troops of one country; therefore, i would like to clarify my version of a rapid reaction force:

An RRF would probably only be about ten or twenty infantry divisions, several armored divisions, air force, and about fifty or so ships. They would have to be able to hold their own against invaders until reinforcements arrive and be capable of limited offensive actions. Otherwise, every nation will ahve to deploy their military separately, and a Joint Command Council will be set up to preside over the military actions.

Tokarev what do you think? Everyone else?
Agrigento
07-12-2003, 02:31
I am very strongly against a completely integrated military. An example of that is the NCA legion. I almost ended up fighting against my own soldiers!! I do not want a system like that. I want it to work something like this:

"I need help, I am under attack" - Nation A
"Because we are both in the Azn Resistance, I will send x number of troops" - Nation B

I am steadfastly against putting my troops in the hands of someone else, where they will work without the need of my permission.

In short I suggest a mutual defense pact. That system over a full-out, completely integrated military force.

If anything, I will support a Rapid Reaction Force, but very little more than that.

Here is something I think we can use: http://www.nato.int/docu/handbook/2001/hb1207020303.htm
Lost Hills
07-12-2003, 02:33
In short I suggest a mutual defense pact, system rather than a full-out, completely integrated military force.

I support this idea, since it is really cost-effective. However, I still think that there should be an integrated part of the military, if some nations do not wish to participate.

If we agree to this, I'll reduce the appropriation for defense. We really need someone to do the appropriation commitee.
Hukbalahap
07-12-2003, 02:36
Hukbalahap will start to change its intelligence network. First we shall expand our existing human intelligence in other nations and regions (with alliance approval). Second we ask our allies to help us either develop satellites or give us data from their systems.

At this time we withhold intelligence spending unless you wish to telegram us with questions
Thunderstraat
07-12-2003, 02:40
OOC: I'm from Shanghai, China...
No wonder! Good thing I never made fun of you.
Five Civilized Nations
07-12-2003, 02:40
OOC: I'm from Shanghai, China...
No wonder! Good thing I never made fun of you.

what?
Bonstock
07-12-2003, 02:43
Free Bonstock will donate to the Asian cause, mostly because we are fighting from Taiwan. Bonstock proper, however, has a population primarily made up of people of Swedish decent, although racial lines are considerably blurred due to intermarriage of races. Most of Bonstock is not pure anything.

Then again, we did colonize some of Taiwan. Just excuse that, and our recent (and continuing) efforts to economically control China and Japan, and our continueing involvement in the Nimbata war (Myanmar/Burma).
Virgin Atlantic
07-12-2003, 02:56
Virgin Atlantic (based in _Taiwan OOC: Puppet) has been appointed official Taiwanese arms supplier.
East Islandia
07-12-2003, 03:44
Then again, we did colonize some of Taiwan. Just excuse that, and our recent (and continuing) efforts to economically control China and Japan, and our continueing involvement in the Nimbata war (Myanmar/Burma).

economically control China and Japan?
Um, I'll have to consult with the other Resistance members first, but for me, its a NO, unless u stop trying to control China and Japan.

Economic imperialism is still imperialism. And what are you doing in the Myanmar war anyway?
East Islandia
07-12-2003, 03:47
I support this idea, since it is really cost-effective. However, I still think that there should be an integrated part of the military, if some nations do not wish to participate.

If we agree to this, I'll reduce the appropriation for defense. We really need someone to do the appropriation commitee.

I say we go ahead with the mutual defence pact. Tokarev? Tokarev?

Well, unless he says otherwise, I suppose we're going ahead with the mutual defence agreement instead of full blown integrated forces.

But i still say we have a rapid reaction component and possibly an alliance wide counter terrorism unit.

and should we allow bonstock in? Yes or No?
East Islandia
07-12-2003, 03:47
And I give Hubalakhap permission to expand regional intelligence networks. All nations please cooperate with Hubalakhap and share intelligence.
Also, the formation of an intelligence agency is proposed, to be headed by Hubalakhap.
Lost Hills
07-12-2003, 03:51
If Bonstock agrees to stop trying to control China and Japan's economies, then I will support his entrance. Until then, we will block the admittance of Bonstock.
Agrigento
07-12-2003, 03:52
If Bonstock agrees to stop trying to control China and Japan's economies, then I will support his entrance. Until then, we will block the admittance of Bonstock.

Agreed.

- Also he must stop trying to steal Asian Tech through illegal means, endangering our pilots! An apology for that little incident would be help too.
East Islandia
07-12-2003, 03:55
Agreed. - Also he must stop trying to steal Asian Tech through illegal means, endangering our pilots!

Oh shit i forgot that he and Maropian Coast were acting together..

DAMN IT! BUY TECH IF U WANT!
07-12-2003, 04:26
May we join?
East Islandia
07-12-2003, 04:36
Alrite.
Canada-Germany
07-12-2003, 04:55
Might I join as well? We have a 50/50 split between Azn/everyone else in our population.
Agrigento
07-12-2003, 04:58
Might I join as well? We have a 50/50 split between Azn/everyone else in our p opulation.

I think it should be fine. I have a small Asian percentage (less than 10%) of my population, that didn't stop me.
Glorious Humanity
07-12-2003, 08:01
The Federation of Glorious Humanity also supports a collective intelligence pool, and we will coordinate our agents with Hukbalahap, and share intelligence data on the condition that they also disclose any intelligence they gather.

Harry Fox
Director
Military Intelligence
Federation of Glorious Humanity
07-12-2003, 08:07
Here is a draft of the Mutual Defense Pact for the Asian Alliance


"In view of the desire of the Governments of the Asian Alliance states members to consolidate relations between the States of the Asian Alliance; to maintain their independence and their mutual heritage; in accordance with the desire of their peoples, to cooperate for the realization of mutual defense and the maintenance of security and peace according to the principles of both the Asian Alliance Pact and the United Nations Charter, together with the, of the said Pacts; and to consolidate stability and security and provide means of welfare and development in the countries.

The following government delegates having been duly accredited and fully authorized by their respective governments, approve the following:

Article 1

The Contracting States, in an effort to maintain and stabilize peace and security, hereby confirm their desire to settle their international disputes by peaceful means, whether such disputes concern relations among themselves or with other Powers.

Article 2

The Contracting States consider any (act of) armed aggression made against any one or more of them or their armed forces, to be directed against them all. Therefore, in accordance with the right of self-defense, individually and collectively, they undertake to go without delay to the aid of the State or States against which such an act of aggression is made, and immediately to take, individually and collectively, all steps available, including the use of armed force, to repel the aggression and restore security and peace. In case of such an act, all States shall be notified of such act of aggression and the means and procedure taken to check it.

Article 3

At the invitation of any one of the signatories of this Treaty the Contracting States shall hold consultations whenever there are reasonable grounds for the belief that the territorial integrity, independence, or security of any one of the parties is threatened. In the event of the threat of war or the existence of an international emergency, the Contracting States shall immediately proceed to unify their plans and defensive measures, as the situation may demand.

Article 4

The Contracting States, desiring to implement fully the above obligations and effectively carry them out, shall cooperate in consolidating and coordinating their armed forces, and shall participate according to their resources and needs in preparing individual and collective means of defense to repulse the said armed aggression.

Article 5

A Permanent Military Commission composed of representatives of the General Staffs of the armies of the Contracting States shall be formed to draw up plans of joint defense and their implementation. The duties of the Permanent Military Commission which are set forth in an Annex attached to this Treaty, include the drafting of necessary reports on the method of cooperation and participation mentioned in Article 4. The Permanent Military Commission shall submit to the joint Defense Council, provided hereunder in Article 6, reports dealing with questions within its province.

Article 6

A Joint Defense Council under the supervision of the Asian Alliance Council shall be formed to deal with all matters concerning the implementation of the provisions of Articles 2, 3, 4, and 5 of this Treaty. It shall be assisted in the performance of its task by the Permanent Military Commission referred to in Article 5. The joint Defense Council shall consist of the Foreign Ministers and the Defense Ministers of the Contracting States or their representatives. Decisions taken by a two-thirds majority shall be binding on all the Contracting States.

Article 7

The Contracting States, in order to fulfill the aims of this Treaty, and to bring about security and prosperity in the Asian countries, and in an effort to raise the standard of living in them, undertake to cooperate in the development of their economics and the exploitation of their natural resources; to facilitate the exchange of their respective agricultural and industrial products; and generally to organize and coordinate their economic activities and to conclude the necessary inter-State agreements to realize such aims.

Article 8

An Economic Council consisting of the Ministers in charge of economic affairs, or their representatives if necessary, shall be formed by the Contracting States to submit recommendations for the realization of all such aims as are set forth in the previous article. The Council may, in the performance of its duties, seek the cooperation of a Committee for Financial and Economic Affairs

Article 9

The Annex to this Treaty shall be considered an integral and indivisible part of it.

Article 10

The Contracting States undertake to conclude no international agreements which may be contradictory to the provisions of this Treaty, nor to act, in their international relations, in a way which may be contrary to the aims of this Treaty.

Article 11

No provision of this Treaty shall in any way affect, or is intended to affect, any of the rights or obligations evolving upon the Contracting States from the United Nations Charter or the responsibilities borne by the United Nations Security Council for the maintenance of international peace and security.

Article 12

After a lapse of 10 years (10 RL days) from the date of the ratification of this Treaty, any one of the Contracting States may withdraw from it, providing 12 months' (1 RL day) notice is previously given to the Asian Alliance Council.

Article 13

This Treaty shall be ratified by each Contracting State according to the constitutional procedure of its own government.

Military Annex

1 - The Permanent Military Commission provided for in Article 5 shall undertake the following:
a - In cooperation with the joint Defense Council, to prepare plans to deal with all anticipated dangers or armed aggression that may be launched against one or more of the Contracting States or their armed forces, such plans to be based on the principles determined by the joint Defense Council;
b - To submit proposals for the organization of the forces of the Contracting States, stipulating the minimum force for each in accordance with military exigencies and the potentialities of each State;
c - To submit proposals for increasing the effectiveness of the forces of the Contracting States in so far as their equipment, organization, and training are concerned; so that they may keep pace with modem military methods and development; and for the unification and coordination of all such forces;
d - To submit proposals for the exploitation of natural, agricultural, industrial, and other resources of all Contracting States in favor of the inter-State military effort and joint defense;
e - To organize the exchange of training missions between the Contracting States for the preparation of plans, participation in military exercises and maneuvers and the study of their results, recommendations for the improvement of methods to ensure close cooperation in the field, and for the general improvement of the forces of all the Contracting States;
f - To prepare the necessary data on the resources and military potentialities of each of the Contracting States and the part to be played by the forces of each in the joint military effort;
g - To discuss the facilities and various contributions which each of the Contracting States, in conformity with the provisions of this Treaty, might be asked to provide, during a state of war, on behalf of the armies of such other Contracting States as might be operating on its territory.

2. The Permanent Military Commission may form temporary or permanent subcommittees from among its own members to deal with any of the matters falling within its jurisdiction. It may also seek the advice of any experts whose views on certain questions are deemed necessary.

3. The Permanent Military Commission shall submit detailed reports on the results of its activities and studies to the joint Defense Council provided for in Article 6 of this Treaty, as well as an annual report giving full particulars of its work and studies during the year.

4. The Permanent Military Commission shall establish its headquarters in Tokarev but may hold meetings in any other place the Commission may specify. The Commission shall elect its Chairman for two years; he may be reelected. Candidates for the Chairmanship shall hold at least the rank of a high commanding officer. Each member of the Commission must have as his original nationality that of the Contracting State he represents.

5. In the event of war, the supreme command of the joint forces shall be entrusted to the Contracting State possessing the largest military force taking actual part in field operations, unless, by unanimous agreement, the Commander-in-Chief is selected otherwise. The Commander-in-Chief shall be assisted in directing military operations by a joint Staff.
Agrigento
07-12-2003, 08:58
Wow, Tokarev. That is extensive, and I believe very well written. My nation thoroughly agrees to it.

On a side note I will also support a small, but effective, Rapid Reaction Force.
07-12-2003, 09:37
As for a Rapid Reaction Force, I believe that we should have some sort of easily mobilized force, like Agrigento said.




Maybe each member nation will commit one battallion or one division, depending on how large we want to make this RRF, which will be commanded directly by the Permanent Military Commission created by the above Treaty.
Dra-pol
07-12-2003, 09:37
Dra-pol, usually isolationist and paranoid with regards to outsiders (never mind its own population), is quick to support the basics of the proposition as it stands.
Auman
07-12-2003, 09:38
Azn...YOU MORONS! I thought black people screwed up the english language and then I hear this.
Agrigento
07-12-2003, 09:40
Agrigento having several units, formerly allocated to a regional alliance at the ready for such a Rapid Reaction Force shall provide its Elite "Folgore" Parachute Brigade's 111st Company "Guastatori" as part of the Rapid Reaction Force, which we hope will be modeled after NATO's ACE version.
Agrigento
07-12-2003, 09:42
Azn...YOU MORONS! I thought black people screwed up the english language and then I hear this.

What it is, jive turkey.

The English langauge was, and still is screwed up. Its only redeeming value is the influence of other languages on it.

Not to get off on a rant here.

NOW, please leave this thread, you apparently racist bastard. Thank you.

EDIT: Not to belittle the English language, nor those who speak it, for that offense I apologize, I was merely mentioning the harshness of it. This is quite evident when comparing it to other languages, particularly those of Eastern or Latin origins.
Dra-pol
07-12-2003, 09:43
As for the potential rapid reaction force- Dra-pol's means presently do not allow for over-seas deployment at all. The republic has no offensive means at her disposal. The tiny navy was destroyed by western imperialists, who still dominate the nation's territorial waters, making re-building impossible. The air force has a few dozen short range light transport aircraft- Japanese WWII vintage- and no one knows how many of them are actually air worthy. However, the People's Army is massive, possibly the biggest in the alliance (though pre-occupied fighting the imperialists) and would eventually be able to contribute either a large force of regular infantry, battle hardened and adept at mountain and forest warfare, or else a smaller unit drawn from the Red Bamboo, Dra-pol's 120,000 strong special forces.

Deploying them in force to anywhere besides Dra-pol, South Dalania, China, or Russia is beyond Dra-pol's own means.

But I'm rambling..
Agrigento
07-12-2003, 09:45
Perhaps the removal of those imperial influences that seem to be negatively affecting your country will be the alliance's first business...
07-12-2003, 09:45
As part of the Rapid Reaction Force, Tokarev is willing to commit our Elite "Bankovní úředník" (literally translated: city dwellers) 139th Light Infantry Company. This is an elite infantry unite trained for urban combat.
Agrigento
07-12-2003, 10:07
There is a military entity I have neglected to mention:


Islandian Volunteer Corps. of Agrigento (IVCA)

The Islandian Volunteer Corps. of Agrigento. They were formed after Mallberta tried to conquer China. It saw further action in the recent Sino-Japannese War. While the group has questionable ties to the government it is listed as an Independent group that survives based on donations and organization-ran enterprises.

In actuality, however, it receives millions of dollars in Government money and is trained by the AIA (Agrigentian Intelligence Agency).

Despite its status as a Private Army, headed by a charitable organization, it has purchased advanced weaponry, often on the same grade as their counterparts in the Agrigentian Army.

http://www.angelfire.com/ill/agrigento/ivca.bmp
Banner of the Corps, associated with the IAA, Islandian-Agrigentian Alliance - a non profit group that supports Asian Culture and helps the advancement of asian citizens of Agrigento.

Of course I believe that IVCA will find its own place in the Resistance....and I do not ask for any official recognization, however I just wanted to make you all aware of its existence.
Auman
07-12-2003, 10:20
Azn...YOU MORONS! I thought black people screwed up the english language and then I hear this.

What it is, jive turkey.

The English langauge was, and still is screwed up. Its only redeeming value is the influence of other languages on it.

Not to get off on a rant here.

NOW, please leave this thread, you apparently racist bastard. Thank you.

EDIT: Not to belittle the English language, nor those who speak it, for that offense I apologize, I was merely mentioning the harshness of it. This is quite evident when comparing it to other languages, particularly those of Eastern or Latin origins.

...I was never on the thread in the first place pal, but obviously since Im such a racist I should kick my Cambodian friend out of my house now. Quit butchering the language!

Just because I hate lame slang words and abbreviations doesn't make me a racist, I just think you're lame for using them. Anyway...Im out of here.
Dra-pol
07-12-2003, 10:30
ooc:Erm. We halucinated his contribution then? How queer!
As an aside, I think it would have been best not to have used a colloquial application of the term "lame" in that little diatribe, or to have used the term "pal" at all. Ho hum.

(Nice banner, Agrigento!)
Glorious Humanity
07-12-2003, 10:32
Agrigento wrote:
Auman wrote:
Azn...YOU MORONS! I thought black people screwed up the english language and then I hear this.


What it is, jive turkey.

The English langauge was, and still is screwed up. Its only redeeming value is the influence of other languages on it.

Not to get off on a rant here.

NOW, please leave this thread, you apparently racist bastard. Thank you.

EDIT: Not to belittle the English language, nor those who speak it, for that offense I apologize, I was merely mentioning the harshness of it. This is quite evident when comparing it to other languages, particularly those of Eastern or Latin origins.


...I was never on the thread in the first place pal, but obviously since Im such a racist I should kick my Cambodian friend out of my house now. Quit butchering the language!

Just because I hate lame slang words and abbreviations doesn't make me a racist, I just think you're lame for using them. Anyway...Im out of here.

OOC: Thank you for your completely pointless harassment. You did not say a single IC word in this thread, instead you delivered OOC insults. I would like to point out that this is a roleplay thread, in which an alliance is being created. If you do not have something productive and IC to add to this, please butt out. Thank you.

IC: The Federation of Glorious Humanity can supply our special counter-terrorism unit, the Human Angels. Numbering fifteen hundred men and women total, the Human Angels are specially trained in urban warfare and hostage rescue, and have proven themselves in several busts and raids against terrorist groups within Glorious Humanity. To date they have only been engaged in one international incident, in which they aided CT units from the nation of Aust in retaking a school in that nation. They are eager to more concretely prove themselves on the world stage, and will fight well in any sort of urban engagement.

Herbert Ablegard
General of the Army
Federation of Glorious Humanity
Lost Hills
07-12-2003, 14:50
Lost Hills will contribute the 4th Airborne Division (Assault) to this cause. It is composed of 250 UH-60 Black Hawk helicopters, and the corresponding troops and support.
07-12-2003, 15:38
ASIAN ALLIANCE RAPID REACTION FORCE:

South Dalania-2500 Marines and 4500 troops with tanks and equipment

Marimaia 'Yonbin' Division-2000 troops with tanks and equipment

East Islandia Second Amphibious Assault Group-26000 personnel with tanks and equipment

Five Civilized Nations Black Watch Combat Division-~16000 personnel and equipment

Lost Hills 4th Airborne Division-250 UH-60 Black Hawk Helicopters, ~2000 men and appropriate quipment

Tokarev 139th Urban Infantry Division-~40000 men armed with AK-109s, tanks, artillery, and equipment

Glorious Humanity Human Angels-~1500 anti-terrorist personnel and equipment

Dra-pol Red Bamboo-Unknown #

Agrigento 111st Parachute Company-~108 men and appropriate equipment

Islandian Volunteer Corps of Agrigento-Unknown #, affiliation questionable

Canada-Germany Airborn Regiment-4000? personnel and equipment





AIR FORCE:

South Dalania: 22 Apache Helicopters

East Islandia--500 S37s
350 J37 FSW fighters (not to be confused with S37s)
200 J10X4s
J40S2 (150)
50 KH9 tankers
20 W34 AWACS


Tokarev-20 F117A Nighthawks
50 F-4G Wild Weasels
50 B-52 Bombers
100 EA-26 Attack Helicopters
25 B1B Lancers


Marimaia-100 MiG-35

Lost Hills-25X F-16 Fighting Falcon
12X F-35A Joint Strike Fighter
12X F-14 Tomcat
9X B-52 Stratofortress
10X C-141B Starlifter

Agrigento-8 Squadrons of EF-2000's
5 Squadrons of Drago 3000's
4 Squadrons of Giavellotto 3000's
3 Squadrons of VC-27A Parthian ITRG's
2 Fantasma Special Operations: Foward Aircraft
Several Support Squadrons, a Command Squadron, and 2 Tanker squadrons




NAVY: Five Civilized Nations- 3x Challenger-class SSNs

Tokarev-2xRommel-class Battleship
2xLong Beach-class Battleship
1x Liberation-class Battlecruiser
4xTiconderoga-class Cruiser
4xSpruance-class Destroyer
12xOliver Hazard Perry-class Frigate
1xHeadquarters Ship
2xHospital Ship
20xHover Ships
2xRemoval-class Helicopter Carrier
2xCygnus-Class Strike Carrier
10xTyphoon II-class advanced nuclear submarine
10xLos Angeles-class submarine
3xArsenal Ships
various support/supply craft

Lost Hills: 4X Leahy Class Cruiser
4X Long Beach Class Cruiser
2X Spruance Class Destroyer

Agrigento: 1 WC Arsenal Ship
1 AEGIS Fleet Guardian Arsenal Ship
6 Delfino class Catamaran Destroyers
3 Animoso class Destroyers
7 Orizzonte class AAW frigates
14 Nike class Catamaran Corvettes
2 Andrea Doria (NUM) Class Aircraft Carriers
19 SSN-21 Seawolf class submarines
9 SSN-688 Los Angeles class submarines
5 SSGN-726 Ohio class submarines

East Islandia: 5 Typhoon class destroyers
5 Urgent Tidings class frigates
4 Sea Tiger class catamaran assault cruisers
3 Type 052C frigates
5 Type 072-III landing ships
5 Shenli class catamaran amphibious assault ships
5 Naga class catamaran cruisers
5 Typhoon class catamaran destroyers
3 Rugola class destroyers
1 Maiden class assault carrier (100 planes)
2 Ephemeral class assault cruisers
5 Sea Dancer class SSNs
3 Song class SSGs
4 Imperial class SSNs
2 Zhou class SSBNs configured to act as a special operations sub

South Dalania: 15 Hydrofoils

(I will update this as we go along)
Five Civilized Nations
07-12-2003, 15:46
5CN donates its Black Watch Combat Division--16000 troops...

3 Challenger Class SSNs...
East Islandia
07-12-2003, 17:30
Second Amphibious Assault Group

-Seventeenth Marine Spearhead Division
-12,000 soldiers, amphibious APCs, tanks, light artillery, MLRS, full helicopter support arm, three engineers brigades

-Eighth Marine Assault Division (urban specialists)
-14,000 digitized soldiers with amphibious tanks, APCs, helicopters, mobile SAMs (FT2000 and KS1), artillery


-Second Fighter Division
-500 S37s
-350 J37 FSW fighters (not to be confused with S37s)
-200 J10X4s
-J40S2 (150)
-50 KH9 tankers
- 20 W34 AWACS
Agrigento
07-12-2003, 18:39
Yeah, I'm going to have to commit air units of the AAF soon.
Hukbalahap
07-12-2003, 18:59
Hukbalahap requests military advisors to help with procurement of equipment and training of its armed forces. As we have not entered any prior conflict, we now realize that we must revamp our military to alliance standards.

Being an island nation we would wish to develop a means to deliver troops amphibiously as well as through aircraft.

Also our expansion of intelligence goes well, but we would like for other states to submit ideas for future operations via telegrams

-Luis Tarnac
07-12-2003, 20:17
Tokarev will send military advisors to revamp and reorganize your Navy, and we will also sell you a couple thousand surplus amphibious landing craft, and give you discounts at our Naval storefront.
Marimaia
07-12-2003, 20:51
Marimaia would like to contribute the following to the Rapid Reaction Force:

- 100 MiG-35 aircraft

- Genyosha Specials* 'Yonbin' Division: 2000 troops w/associated T-98 battle tanks, TOS-1 MLRS and Mi-24 Hind attack helicopters.



*The Genyosha Specials are an elite force within the MPA, with authorisation to operate independently of regular MPA commanders.
Western Navascuez
07-12-2003, 21:01
I'm unable to contribute anything to the Rapid Reaction Force since I have no standing military of my own as of yet, but I'm contributing $8,406,398,000 for the time being while I build up a sizable military.
07-12-2003, 21:03
I want to remind everyone to check and help ratify the treaty posted by me on the previous page.
East Islandia
07-12-2003, 22:30
EI will send a missile defence training detachment and a training battalion to aid you on your special forces and small infantry group training. A detachment of pilots will also be sent to train your fighter pilots and a separate detachment will train your strike pilots at another date.

the defence pact has been ratified by the Politburo. Well done, Tokarev.
_Taiwan
07-12-2003, 22:46
The R.O.T's contribution will be finalised later in the week. (OOC: Don't have tim right now.)
Lost Hills
07-12-2003, 23:41
Lost Hills 4th Airborne Division-250 UH-60 Black Hawk Helicopters, ~800 men and appropriate quipment

There are actually ~2000 men in that division.

We'll send some ships too:

1st Assault Group
4X Leahy Class Cruiser
4X Long Beach Class Cruiser
2X Spruance Class Destroyer

and aircraft:

2nd Air Wing
25X F-16 Fighting Falcon
12X F-35A Joint Strike Fighter
12X F-14 Tomcat
9X B-52 Stratofortress
10X C-141B Starlifter
Agrigento
08-12-2003, 00:03
Navy

The 2th Pursuit Group

1 WC Arsenal Ship
1 AEGIS Fleet Guardian Arsenal Ship
6 Delfino class Catamaran Destroyers
3 Animoso class Destroyers
7 Orizzonte class AAW frigates
14 Nike class Catamaran Corvettes
2 Andrea Doria (NUM) Class Aircraft Carriers

The 11th Submarine Force

19 SSN-21 Seawolf class submarines
9 SSN-688 Los Angeles class submarines
5 SSGN-726 Ohio class submarines

Air Force

39th Air Wing Rough and Ready

8 Squadrons of EF-2000's
5 Squadrons of Drago 3000's
4 Squadrons of Giavellotto 3000's
3 Squadrons of VC-27A Parthian ITRG's
2 Fantasma Special Operations: Foward Aircraft
Several Support Squadrons, a Command Squadron, and 2 Tanker squadrons

_________________________________________

and 100 men in that company

Note: the IVCA navy and Airforce is almost non-existant, took quite a beating in the Sino-Japannese War. Hence why the Agrigentian Government sends only 1 company, but a large air and naval force.
East Islandia
08-12-2003, 01:47
INcluded in the Second Amphbious Assault Group are:
5 Typhoon class destroyers
5 Urgent Tidings class frigates
4 Sea Tiger class catamaran assault cruisers
3 Type 052C frigates
5 Type 072-III landing ships
5 Shenli class catamaran amphibious assault ships

Also, the Fifty First Naval Engagement Group and Wolf Pack Three Six Eight will be sent:

Surface Component
5 Naga class catamaran cruisers
5 Typhoon class catamaran destroyers
3 Rugola class destroyers
1 Maiden class assault carrier (100 planes)
2 Ephemeral class assault cruisers

Wolfpack Three Six Eight
5 Sea Dancer class SSNs
3 Song class SSGs
4 Imperial class SSNs
2 Zhou class SSBNs configured to act as a special operations sub
Canada-Germany
08-12-2003, 07:00
We will put the 1-Canada-Germany Airborn Regiment (1-C-GAR) (there are 3 groups within the C-GAR, like the PPCLI in Canada) an all nessasary Support on standby for this Rapid Reaction Force.
08-12-2003, 07:05
South Dalania contributes:

-2500 Marines
-100 tanks (M1 Abrams) and support vehicles
-22 Apache gunships
-Wartime use of South Dalanian military facilities (open to interpretation)
-4500 Army personnel
-15 naval hydrofoils
East Islandia
09-12-2003, 22:48
The Agenda

Feel free to add on

Item A
Joint Exercises
Tokarev, we need to hold joint exercises somewhere. You're in charge of that.

B
Alliance wide Counterterror unit
THis will be an alliance wide counterterrorism unit. Since we already have our own rapid reaction force, this will supplement the antiterrorist abilities of our current forces and if possible, respond to contingencies within the area.

C
Research of anti ballistic missile defence
Seeing that idiots and godmodders, as well as bastards who like holding down triggers to launch nukes are a great concern would the department heads please get together to test the possibility of an alliance wide air defence network or air defence for each nation.

D
Social research
Please see if you can do anything regarding the profligation of famine and drought, including new desalination techniques, hydroponix, and irrigation. Your mandate is up to you.

E
Finance
Keep up the good work

F
Intelligence
Please tgram me with the progress you have made in terms of HUMINT/SIGINT integration. All of my intelligence networks' data have been given to you, as well as analyses. I encourage other nations to do the same and hand over data they deem useful and worth sharing (NOT data on operatives, bugs, etc, juss analyzed material)

G
All departments/councils/committees
Please submit a progress report to show how you're doing.

H
Vote for FCN or AG in the Defense/R&D
Please submit your vote on either nation; both have given examples of their research already, and it is time (arnold schwarzenegger voice) to decide.
Lost Hills
09-12-2003, 22:57
I need all commitee heads to TG me with budget requests (try percentages of the total). I'll try to get a finalized budget within a few days.
Agrigento
09-12-2003, 23:42
I need all commitee heads to TG me with budget requests (try percentages of the total). I'll try to get a finalized budget within a few days.

The R&D commitee lacks a head at the moment.

Vote people; either me or Five Civilized Nations.
East Islandia
10-12-2003, 00:03
ur acting head AG. Act until u or FCN are officially elected. Lost Hills, put R&D last, and if the new head has anything with the OLD head's agenda, he/she will tell you so.

Now i vote for Agrigento as head of R&D.
Vote plz
Dra-pol
10-12-2003, 01:01
Dra-pol will go along with that, so long as no one asks us why, or tells anyone in the nation that we're co-operating in any way with more westerners.
Canada-Germany
10-12-2003, 04:37
We accept what is currently going on.
PRC China
10-12-2003, 04:41
We fully comply with the charter.

Furthermore, we will bring the following to the Rpid Reaction Force, for now: ~5000 People's Army Peacekeeper Corps with appropriate infantry equipments, etc.
Marimaia
10-12-2003, 09:24
The Marimaian Suunist Congress ratified the defence pact: 80 for, none against.

Social research
Please see if you can do anything regarding the profligation of famine and drought, including new desalination techniques, hydroponix, and irrigation. Your mandate is up to you.

I'm in the process of drawing up a charter for the Social Committee; just so I know, will human rights fall under the Committee's jurisdiction, or will it be left for individual nations to deal with how they choose to?


The R&D commitee lacks a head at the moment.

Vote people; either me or Five Civilized Nations.

Marimaia votes for Agrigento as head of R&D.
East Islandia
10-12-2003, 14:55
Human rights will also fall under social committee's jurisdiction, but you cannot actively implement changes in individual nations; just pull up legislation to be ratified by the members of the resistance.

Also, see this thread:

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=101937&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

these people are imperialist and may be our potential enemies. I remember Hubalakhap saying that they faced aggression from TROUSRS before, so it appears we will meet them again.

Tokarev. finalize the rapid reaction force and get it ready. Hubalakhap, get the intel out and monitor the nations on the other alliance
imported_Xiaguo
11-12-2003, 16:49
This is Xiaguo reporting to the Alliance from Mainland China!
Xiaguo likes this alliance and also needs to contribute to the alliance.
6,000marines
5battleships
1-XNS Chongquan
2-XNS Taizong
3-XNS Woshen
4-XNS Beiwang
5-XNS Sun Zhong Shan2
40Fighters?<Ask Sin for detils, Sino is Xiaguo's leading tank industry.
100 F-90 tanks? refer to top detail of fighters.
1 small nuke.<latest Tech!use if you dare..prototype,only about half a mile perimeter.
Permittance of use of Xiaguo's Hospital ships during Wartime.

Xiaguo's Chairman, Yeh Tai Shao has a letter for EI and the members of the Asian Alliance..
Dear EI, fellow members, Comrades, and Supporters,
Xiaguo cannot freely and warmly greet our following friends and comrades withing ammidtance to this unique alliance. We can only contribute so many. We will contribute as much as we can offer in possible amounts to fufill Xiaguo governments, people, and my duties. I am sorry but some Japanese has just launch some more attacks at my bunker so I will send another TG as soon as possible.

-undersigned STAMPED SIGNATURED OCCUPATIONS-
Xiaguo Chairman Yeh Zhao Feng
Regional Foreign Minister for United China
Head of UC Economy

PS//I've sent 1 box of Cuban HEAVY cigars and a crate of 555's to smoking members of the Asian Alliance Assembly to gratefully enjoy.

PSS///I will be scheduled on a millitary flight to Xiaguo. I will hold a meeting of Asian Alliance members who CAN make it to meet and discuss on the newly formed government of the Alliance. This may be helpful on better educating the common people. Thank you.
Five Civilized Nations
11-12-2003, 18:11
The Five Civilized Nations offers its 5th Space Fleet (although it currently battling Klonor and Jimathon) to the AZN REsistance. at the same time we will offer an Armored Corps... More details on the numbers later...
East Islandia
12-12-2003, 15:40
Tokarev, get those exercises together pls.
In other cases, if no one objects, i move for the formation of an alliance wide counterterrorism unit. I already have a training college for CT personnel that is currently unused and could use some more new guys to whip into shape.

If anyone wants to, send some of their soldiers (and trainers) over to the EI CTC (will post link later) and we'll see what we can do.

In other areas, anyone have any suggestions for the location of our joint exercises?

and will the councilor for intra alliance relations draw up a draft of information and technology exchange for the resistance? add something to the extent of discounts and standardized patenting, but otherwise, you're free to do wut u will with the pact. Suggestions, as always, are welcome.

I'm also goin to draw up a list of inactive members, or members who havent posted very much inthe thread other than their applications to join.
East Islandia
12-12-2003, 15:48
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1377844#1377844


the CTC is there in link above. Join if you wish to increase the flexibility of your CT forces.

snicker snicker
Lost Hills
12-12-2003, 17:26
I ask again for all commitee heads to TG me with budget requests. Not doing so risks having appropriations that are much lower what you would like.
Marimaia
13-12-2003, 00:36
I'll have something put up for the Social Committee this weekend; I was planning to have it done earlier, but I've had a couple of real-life things to sort out recently.
East Islandia
13-12-2003, 00:51
good luck with your problems Marimaia.
Hukbalahap
13-12-2003, 00:52
Hukbalahap also votes for Agrigento as we feel they are the strongest candidate for the head of R&D so far. We wish our vote does not cause any animosity between us or any other alliance member.

Also our parliament has agreed to ratify the terms of the Charter.

Hukbalahap will monitor the Imperialistic Coalition and will prepare a report for Azn Resistance members shortly. We are still deciding whether to post our findings in the Forum or if our fellow nations would like telegrams instead for the sake of secrecy. Please notify us how the report should be published.

Finally we remember NAIA being an anti-imperialistic alliance headed by New Genoa. Hukbalahap believes they have similar stances with the Azn Resistance and an the start of a dialogue might be worthwhile.


EDIT:

Prime Minister Tarnac thanks Xiaguo for the delivery of the Cuban cigars. In response Tarnac sends a shipment of some of Hukbalahap's finest pearls to your kind nation
East Islandia
13-12-2003, 01:13
i suppose u could tgram those who request the intelligence report. Or we should set up some sort of mailing chain (ie, the person mails the tgram to one person and then they mail it to another), but i think posting it on the forum may not be the best idea in the name of secrecy

Random gifts
EI will distribute three hundred ATS antitank missile launchers to each nation in the Resistance. Also, we will give a jeweled, encrusted box made of the finest lacquered Lotus-wood, with gilded gold and jade to the leader of every nation signifying our unity of purpose.

Also, Agrigento and I are members of the NAIA. We will see what we can do to start a partnership with them.

Viva la resistance.
Hukbalahap
13-12-2003, 01:57
Hukbalahap asks all Azn Resistance members interested in our intelligence reports to please telegram us. This is to prevent the nations we are monitoring to become aware of our existence. We are busy collating data on known aggressor states and welcome any useful information.

-Santiago Angeles, Intelligence Minister
_Taiwan
13-12-2003, 02:00
The Republic of Taiwan contributes the following forces:

400 F-22 Raptors
300 F-35 JSFs

As our navy and army following a "steel-ring" doctrine, Taiwan's oversea forces are dominated by our air force.
_Taiwan
13-12-2003, 02:03
The Republic of Taiwan contributes the following forces:

400 F-22 Raptors
300 F-35 JSFs

As our navy and army following a "steel-ring" doctrine, Taiwan's oversea forces are dominated by our air force.
13-12-2003, 14:22
ASIAN ALLIANCE RAPID REACTION FORCE:

Xiaguo-6,000marines and 100 tanks with appropriate equipment

PRC China-5000 People's Army Peacekeeper Corps with appropriate infantry equipments, etc.

South Dalania-2500 Marines and 4500 troops with tanks and equipment

Marimaia 'Yonbin' Division-2000 troops with tanks and equipment

East Islandia Second Amphibious Assault Group-26000 personnel with tanks and equipment

Five Civilized Nations Black Watch Combat Division-~16000 personnel and equipment

Five Civilized Nations Armored Company-Unknown #s

Lost Hills 4th Airborne Division-250 UH-60 Black Hawk Helicopters, ~2000 men and appropriate quipment

Tokarev 139th Urban Infantry Division-~40000 men armed with AK-109s, tanks, artillery, and equipment

Glorious Humanity Human Angels-~1500 anti-terrorist personnel and equipment

Dra-pol Red Bamboo-Unknown #

Agrigento 111st Parachute Company-~108 men and appropriate equipment

Islandian Volunteer Corps of Agrigento-Unknown #, affiliation questionable

Canada-Germany Airborn Regiment-4000? personnel and equipment





AIR FORCE:

Xiaguo: 40 Fighters

South Dalania: 22 Apache Helicopters

East Islandia--500 S37s
350 J37 FSW fighters (not to be confused with S37s)
200 J10X4s
J40S2 (150)
50 KH9 tankers
20 W34 AWACS


Tokarev-20 F117A Nighthawks
50 F-4G Wild Weasels
50 B-52 Bombers
100 EA-26 Attack Helicopters
25 B1B Lancers


Marimaia-100 MiG-35

Lost Hills-25X F-16 Fighting Falcon
12X F-35A Joint Strike Fighter
12X F-14 Tomcat
9X B-52 Stratofortress
10X C-141B Starlifter

Agrigento-8 Squadrons of EF-2000's
5 Squadrons of Drago 3000's
4 Squadrons of Giavellotto 3000's
3 Squadrons of VC-27A Parthian ITRG's
2 Fantasma Special Operations: Foward Aircraft
Several Support Squadrons, a Command Squadron, and 2 Tanker squadrons

Taiwan-400 F-22 Raptors
300 F-35 JSFs



NAVY: Five Civilized Nations- 3x Challenger-class SSNs

Tokarev-2xRommel-class Battleship
2xLong Beach-class Battleship
1x Liberation-class Battlecruiser
10x Halder-class Pocket Battleships
8x Manstein-class Destroyers
1x Kirov-class Missile Ship
4xTiconderoga-class Cruiser
4xSpruance-class Destroyer
12xOliver Hazard Perry-class Frigate
1xHeadquarters Ship
2xHospital Ship
20xHover Frigates
2xRemoval-class Helicopter Carrier
2xCygnus-Class Strike Carrier
10xTyphoon II-class advanced nuclear submarine
10xLos Angeles-class submarine
3xArsenal Ships
various support/supply craft

Lost Hills: 4X Leahy Class Cruiser
4X Long Beach Class Cruiser
2X Spruance Class Destroyer

Agrigento: 1 WC Arsenal Ship
1 AEGIS Fleet Guardian Arsenal Ship
6 Delfino class Catamaran Destroyers
3 Animoso class Destroyers
7 Orizzonte class AAW frigates
14 Nike class Catamaran Corvettes
2 Andrea Doria (NUM) Class Aircraft Carriers
19 SSN-21 Seawolf class submarines
9 SSN-688 Los Angeles class submarines
5 SSGN-726 Ohio class submarines

East Islandia: 5 Typhoon class destroyers
5 Urgent Tidings class frigates
4 Sea Tiger class catamaran assault cruisers
3 Type 052C frigates
5 Type 072-III landing ships
5 Shenli class catamaran amphibious assault ships
5 Naga class catamaran cruisers
5 Typhoon class catamaran destroyers
3 Rugola class destroyers
1 Maiden class assault carrier (100 planes)
2 Ephemeral class assault cruisers
5 Sea Dancer class SSNs
3 Song class SSGs
4 Imperial class SSNs
2 Zhou class SSBNs configured to act as a special operations sub

South Dalania: 15 Hydrofoils

Xiaguo: 5 battleships








Above is the FINAL version of the Rapid Reaction Force. No more contributions will be accepted, though I would appreciate any help in tweaking the above numbers.



I vote for Agrigento for the head of the R&D.




For budget requests, the Alliance Defense Commitee will need at least $10 to 30 billion from the budget. Tokarev has recently upped military spending, so we now have a military budget of $600 billion. Of that $600 billion, we can use about $200 billion of it towards the funding of the Rapid Reaction force. The 10 to 30 billion will be needed for other interests of the Commitee.
13-12-2003, 14:32
We will join you! i have recently bought 1 million rifles to fight against westerners. we Are 40% japanese and 40% mongol 10% tibeten and 10% hunnich. i hope my offer is accepted. we will crush all those who oppose us.

*Leader of the blood devourers*
imported_Xiaguo
14-12-2003, 05:37
I've been absent for a number of days. Can someone post the members of Asian Alliance, The leaders and heds of the Alliance(like, whos the president? Minister of war? etc), Number of Money in Treasury, and The Doctrine of this Alliance and Millitary is uneeded(I've sen them and I approve of the Doctrine)
I wouuld vote for EI
14-12-2003, 05:38
La Christiania places a vote for Agrigento as head of the R&D committee
imported_Xiaguo
14-12-2003, 05:39
I've been absent for a number of days. Can someone post the members of Asian Alliance, The leaders and heds of the Alliance(like, whos the president? Minister of war? etc), Number of Money in Treasury, and The Doctrine of this Alliance and Millitary is uneeded(I've sen them and I approve of the Doctrine)
I would vote for Arigento, I think I know what you guys are talking about.<oops
East Islandia
14-12-2003, 05:57
Financier
Lost Hills

Intelligence
Hukbalahap

Social Committee
Marimaia

Councilor for Extra alliance relations
Glorious Humanity

R&D
Agrigento

Tactix and Security
Tokarev

Inter alliance relations
forgot who, but think there is no one in this position. Did soemone apply for it?
_Taiwan
14-12-2003, 08:57
I remember applying for one of the ambassador positions (was it inter or intra alliance?).

We place our vote for R&D for Agrigento.
Canada-Germany
14-12-2003, 11:40
The Numbers seem pretty good.
East Islandia
14-12-2003, 18:44
Taiwan= intra alliance councilor

i dont recall if you finalized applying for it, but if you want the position, you can have it.

where will we hold joint exercises?

incoming crisis in the DiayouTai, involving Taiwan, me, and PRC CHina.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=103693&highlight=
Lost Hills
14-12-2003, 19:02
Given how fast the situation in the Diaoyu Islands is moving, I think we should begin mobilizing our forces in the case of a full war.
14-12-2003, 19:54
The rapid reaction force is almost finished in terms of organization, though I still have to work out some logistics matters. However, in case of full scale war we should be ready.
East Islandia
14-12-2003, 20:04
any1 have wushu teams?


Wushu tournament here:

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2362659#2362659
_Taiwan
15-12-2003, 02:15
Wow, i never expected the PRC to give their backing.
15-12-2003, 04:26
really think this is going to work? how many people backing you do you even have?
15-12-2003, 04:27
if it's over fifty i'll join, if it's not, there's no point in it
East Islandia
15-12-2003, 19:58
really think this is going to work? how many people backing you do you even have?


what are you guys talking about? THe DiayouTai problem? All this stuff about backing and the like....
Lost Hills
16-12-2003, 02:35
Alright, interim budget will be released on December 20, 2003 (RL). Anyone wishing to have a say should TG me before then.
_Taiwan
16-12-2003, 02:42
The ROTN (formerly ROCN) is interested in acquiring some new naval equipment. We are wanting to purchase up to 12 Arsenal ships, with at least 250 VLS cells. In order to cement ties and further business relations with our Azn allies, we have limted tendering to Azn alliance countries.

Please send all expressions of interest to Presidential Palace, Taipei.

Chen Shui Bian
President of Taiwan
16-12-2003, 06:32
Please inspect my naval storefront. Are arsenal ships are not open for sale to the general public, though you may purchase some of ours.



Imitora-class Arsenal Ship


http://www.cnn.com/US/9610/14/pentagon.ships/remote.lg.jpg



Powerplant-2 Johannes/Cummings Pebble bed reactors, 4 screws with 5 blades, with MHD
Length-800 feet
Beam-200 feet
Crew-60 men due to automation.
Armarment- 650 cell VLS
4 4 tube RAM turrets (Retractable)
Defensive Equipment
Combat Systems SPS-94E 3-D air search radar
SPS-89(V)5 2-D air search radar
3 Mk7 NAI Fire Control

AN/SLQ-550(V)4 active jamming/deception
AN/WLR-9H ESM

Athena-N Stealth System
Aircraft-2 Manned, 6 small UAV/UCAV VTOL areas for spotter craft.
Cost-$800 million
Agrigento
16-12-2003, 06:35
oh, I notice you are using Imitora's ATHENA, thats all good and well. It is a very effective system but it does have limits. I just want to make everyone in the alliance aware of the technology they use, how to counter it and the sort, so here is a link to a thread I made that I suggest all of you interested in ATHENA and other Active Radar Cancellation systems read:

The Truth about Active Radar Cancellation (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=104238&highlight=)
16-12-2003, 06:37
I would not like to join the alliance, but I would like to hang at your parties. The nation of Cabeza-stan is mostly non-asian, but we have modeled ourselves after the Mongol horde -so we have great respect for all things asian. Still, we think too many asians have a Wall fetish -so we feel that a cordial relationship would be in order.
16-12-2003, 06:38
I would not like to join the alliance, but I would like to hang at your parties. The nation of Cabeza-stan is mostly non-asian, but we have modeled ourselves after the Mongol horde -so we have great respect for all things asian. Still, we think too many asians have a Wall fetish -so we feel that a cordial relationship would be in order
16-12-2003, 06:42
Thanks Agrigento, that is a really useful thread.
_Taiwan
16-12-2003, 07:26
After reviewing the performance of the Imitora-class Arsenal ships, the ROTN has decided to increase it's order to 24 vessels. Neccessary costs have been wired to the appropriate accounts.
East Islandia
17-12-2003, 20:04
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2384991#2384991

any body have any predominantly Japanese nations here? in any case, everyone check that out.
East Islandia
17-12-2003, 20:08
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2384991#2384991

any body have any predominantly Japanese nations here? in any case, everyone check that out.
17-12-2003, 20:14
Confirmed Tokarev. Enjoy them, I know I do :twisted:
East Islandia
18-12-2003, 03:51
Ahem.. sry about the double post.

In any case, I suppose we could take a break off until any new contingencies pop up?

Any1 have any contingencies to occupy us with?
_Taiwan
18-12-2003, 05:25
The R.O.T proposes the creation of a goods and services list ; that is, each nation would post what they could offer. This will have the affect of increasing intra-alliance trade.
Agrigento
18-12-2003, 05:32
That is a good idea, Taiwan. I have a factbook entry in the makings, I'll post prudent economic information here as well:

In the Interests of Intra-Alliance Commerce
Summary:
Agrigento has a diversified industrial economy. This capitalistic economy remains divided into a developed industrial north, dominated by private companies, and a less developed agricultural south, with 3% unemployment. Most raw materials needed by industry and 16% of energy requirements are imported. Over the past decade, Agrigento has pursued a tight fiscal policy and has benefited from lower interest and inflation rates. The current government has enacted numerous short-term reforms aimed at improving competitiveness and long-term growth. Sicilia has moved slowly, however, on implementing needed structural reforms, such as lightening the high tax burden and overhauling the country's rigid labor market and over-generous pension system, because of the current economic slowdown and opposition from labor unions.

Industries:
tourism, machinery, iron and steel, chemicals, food processing, textiles, motor vehicles, clothing, footwear, ceramics

Electricity - production by source:
fossil fuel: 52%
hydro: 27%
other: 3%
nuclear: 18%

Agriculture - products:
fruits, vegetables, grapes, potatoes, sugar beets, soybeans, grain, olives; beef, dairy products; fish

Exports - commodities:
engineering products, textiles and clothing, production machinery, motor vehicles, transport equipment, chemicals; food, beverages and tobacco; minerals and nonferrous metals

Imports - commodities:
engineering products, chemicals, transport equipment, energy products, minerals and nonferrous metals, textiles and clothing; food, beverages and tobacco

Labor force - by occupation:
services 63%, industry 32%, agriculture 5%

Natural resources:
mercury, potash, marble, sulfur, natural gas and crude oil reserves, fish, coal, arable land

Land use:
arable land: 28.07%
permanent crops: 9.25%
other: 62.68%
18-12-2003, 07:26
OOC: None of the following is innacurate. To calculate these, I found a happy medium between the United States and the Ukraine, the two countries I most closely resemble



Population: 233,302,369

Summary: Tokarev is a heavily industrialized nation. Railroads and waterways provide the primary sources of energy, transportation, and communication. The western section is the most heavily industrialized, with pockets of factories and production theatres heading east, towards a budding center of economic strength, which is also a center for enemy activity. Agriculture is failing except in the general region of Odessa and nearly the capital of Simferopol. Most raw materials and energy are produced by Tokarev or taken from the neighboring nations which have been reduced to economic vassal states. The government has done much too improve the economy, while keeping civil rights and political freedoms close to heart.

http://www.blackorc.com/forum/attachments/crimea%2Ejpg

National Budget: $4.1 trillion

GDP: purchasing power parity-$8.18 trillion
real growth rate-3% estimate
per capita, purchasing power parity-$35,077
agriculture-23%
industry-42%
services-35%

Population below poverty line: 12.7%

Labor Force: 113.9 million (includes unemployed)

Unemployment Rate: 5.5%

Industries: coal, electric power, ferrous and nonferrous metals, machinery and equipment, chemicals, and food processing (especially sugar)

Industrial productiong growth rate: 6%

Electrical Production: 3.800 trillion kWh

Electirical Production by source: fossil fuel-48.6%
hydro-7.9%
nuclear-43.5%
other-0%

Electrical Consumption: 3.400 trillion kWh

Electrical Exports: 36.4 billion kWh

Electrical Imports: 20.5 billion kWh

Oil Production: 4.04 million bbl/day

Oil Consumption: 9.15 million bbl/day

Oil Exports: NA

Oil Imports: 6.05 million bbl/day

Oil Reserves: 197.5 million bbl

Natural Gas Reserves: 560.7 billion cu m

Agricultural Products: grain, sugar beets, sunflower, vegetables, beef, milk

Exports: $668.9 billion

Exports-commodities: ferrous and nonferrous metals, fuel and petrol products, chemicals, machinery and equipment, food produts

Imports: $665.2 billion

Imports-commodities: energy, machinery and equipment, chemicals

Debt-external: $524.7 billion

Currency: Toka

Currency Code: UTK

Exchange Rate: toka per US dollar-1.0626

Fiscal Year: calendar year

Natural Resources: Iron ore, coal, manganese, natural gas, oil, salt, sulfur, graphite, titanium, magnesium, kaolin, nickel, mercury, timber, and arable land

Land Use: arable land-57.1%
permanent crops-1.73%
other: 41.17%
_Taiwan
18-12-2003, 08:59
Erm...perhaps a more condensed version? Just the import/export bits.

ECONOMY

Trade: Member of United China Economic Union
Primary Exports: Computers, semiconductors, automobiles
Primary Imports: Food, timber, oil
Currency: United China Dollar
1 $US = 22 $NT

Major Companies:
Virgin Aerospace (formerly Chung-Kuo)
China Telecom
Virgin Atlantic
18-12-2003, 11:19
Virgin Atlantic, a private company based in _Taiwan, also operates an international aerospace operation.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=100269
19-12-2003, 03:33
i would be happy to join.
East Islandia
19-12-2003, 04:43
Have you read our criteria? Do you fit its regulations?
19-12-2003, 05:39
Have you read our criteria? Do you fit its regulations?

yes and yes. here is a link to a the biggest RP i have every been in;


Red Arrow Exposion (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=103602&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0)

And a Factbook Entry;

The Sultanate of Esryia
"The Enemy of my Enemy is my Friend"

UN Category: New York Times Democracy
Civil Rights: Very Good
Economy: Reasonable
Political Freedoms: Superb

Location:Island of Java, Indonesia
The Sultanate of Esryia is a small, socially progressive nation, notable for its barren, inhospitable landscape. Its compassionate, intelligent population of 18 million enjoy a sensible mix of personal and economic freedoms, while the political process is open and the people's right to vote held sacrosanct.

The medium-sized, corrupt government juggles the competing demands of Education, Social Welfare, and Healthcare. The average income tax rate is 21%, but much higher for the wealthy. A large private sector is led by the Basket Weaving industry, followed by Automobile Manufacturing and Door-to-door Insurance Sales.

The death penalty has been reintroduced, a well-funded social safety net protects the unfortunate, the tenet of free speech is held dear, and the nation is ravaged by daily union strikes. Crime is relatively low. Esryia's national animal is the beach hamster and its currency is the talia.


Ethnic Groups: Asian: 80%, White: 19%, Black: 1%,
Religions: Islamic: 70%, Christian: 20%, Other: 10%.
Languages: Arabic: 60%, Korean: 30%, Japenese: 7%, Spanish: 3%.
Literacy Rate: 93%

Currency Conversian Rate: 1 Talia = $0.50

National Animal: Beach Hamster (Acta Hamsturius): a small rodent capable of swimming.


Military:

Foot Trooops: 205,000
Vehicle Personal: 11,000
-12 Challenger Tanks
-12 Warior IFVs
-6 Land Rover Defenders
-13 Land Crushers
Air Force Personal: 16,000
-1 Supersonic Bomber
-4 Canberra Bombers
-106 Mystic II Fighter-Bombers
-21 F/A-36 Fighters
-2 A-10 Attack Craft
-7 Delta Dart Fighters
-1 C-130 Transport
-1 EX-727 "Trojan" Command Station
-4 C-27 Transports
Navy: 56,000
-10 LCAC
-2 Wasp Assualt Ship
-2 Ohio-class SSBNs
-2 Seawolf-Class subs
-1 Iowa Class battleship
-2 Ticonderogas
-2 Arleigh Burkes
-1 Oiler
-2 Oliver Hazard Perrys
-2 Cataphract Class Frigates
-1 Nimitz Class Carrier
-46 Mystic II Fighter-Bombers
-4 Sea Raptors
-4 X-29s
-30 Tugs
Diplomatic State: Suspicous, Semi-Allied with the Federation of Indonesia.
Spec Ops Troops: 10,000

Trade:

Exports: Baskets, Automobiles, Raw Materials.
Imports: Military Goods, Food, Electricity, Computers

Railroad System: Good, the system consits of the national railway, and 2 private operaters.
Road System: Good on long-Distance Highways, but bad city roads.

Capital: Aries
President: Andrew Arif
Dra-pol
19-12-2003, 16:32
From the last edition of the CPRD fact-book:

Economy; overview:
Dra-pol’s tightly state-controlled and nationalised economy came to rely on collective agriculture and industry during the nation’s utter isolation. Unwelcome reintroduction to the global market –in which Dra-pol was some fifty years out of date- brought-about a dramatic financial collapse, only worsened by the accompanying war with the invading "Crusader Coalition". Since then the economy learned to cope surprisingly well, DaKhiem securing limited export markets and major foreign aid. The war industry provoked a sharp rise in economic activity, and the industrialisation of Kanggye. Per capita GDP was for a time almost a hundred fold higher than it had been two years earlier.
However, inability to conclude the war, a painful naval blockade enforced by the republic’s attackers, and DaKhiem’s refusal to further limited urbanisation and industrialisation have contributed to a new down turn in recent months.
In truth, the recession was catastrophic, as the last recorded growth-rate shows. Well over twenty thousand starved before international aid began to arrive in force.

GDP purchasing power parity: $28.3 trillion
GDP per capita: US$36,000

GDP growth rate: -24% expected in the first half of 2003

GDP composition by sector: agriculture- 34% industry- 48% services-18%

Labour force by occupation: agriculture- 41% industry- 47% under arms-2%

Unemployment rate: nil (official)

Industries: military products, machine building, electric power, chemicals; mining (coal, iron ore, magnesite, graphite, copper, zinc, lead, and precious metals), metallurgy; textiles, food processing

Industrial production growth rate: 8%

Electricity production by source: fossil fuel- 68% hydro 32%? other ? nuclear ? (fossil/hydro ratio falling rapidly, nuclear programme apparently under-way)

Agricultural products: rice, corn, potatoes, soybeans, pulses; cattle, pigs, pork, eggs

Exports: $4.1bln but rising rapidly

Export commodities: minerals, metallurgical products, mechanical equipment, bicycles, textiles, timber

Export partners: China 31% Russia 15% South Dalania 14% Beth Gellert 9% _Taiwan 8% African Commonwealth 7% Japan 3%

Imports: $6.2bln (discounting assets written off as aid)

Import commodities: oil and fuels, grains and foodstuffs, military equipment, medical supplies and drugs

Import partners: China 42% South Dalania 16% _Taiwan 12% Beth Gellert 11% African Commonwealth 8% Russia 5% Japan 4%

Economic aid recipient: $?

Currency: Yako

Of course much of this is out of date- the recession appears to have stopped as suddenly as it started, and the per capita GDP is holding at about $27,000, giving a national figure of some $23 trillion, of which over seven trillion is poured into the military, in light of the still unresolved war.


As a further footnote, I've been thinking more along the lines of the general aspects of Clan Smoke Jaguar's thread on economics (and other things), mainly as pertains to GDP. I've long complained about people supposing the US to be some sort of benchmark- they can't even out-compete Luxembourg for -bank-'s sake.. Were it not for this I should still rate per capita GDP at $34 to 36 thousand.
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=102191&highlight=
_Taiwan
20-12-2003, 11:24
Ethnic Groups: Asian: 80%, White: 19%, Black: 1%,
Religions: Islamic: 70%, Christian: 20%, Other: 10%.
Languages: Arabic: 60%, Korean: 30%, Japenese: 7%, Spanish: 3%.
Literacy Rate: 93%



OOC: Wow, a lot of Asians speaking Arabic.
20-12-2003, 12:52
UN Category: New York Times Democracy
Civil Rights: Average
Economy: Good
Political Freedoms: World Benchmark

Location: Europe
The Democratic Republic of Banezium is a very large, safe nation, remarkable for its burgeoning Eagle population. Its compassionate, intelligent population of 126 million enjoy a sensible mix of personal and economic freedoms, while the political process is open and the people's right to vote held sacrosanct.

The enormous, corrupt government concentrates mainly on Education, although Social Welfare and the Environment are on the agenda. The average income tax rate is 35%, but much higher for the wealthy. A healthy private sector is led by the Information Technology industry, followed by Book Publishing and Woodchip Exports.

The government pours millions of Credss into rehabilitation programs annually, UFO sightings are listed daily in the morning news, the nation has an international reputation for compassion, and guns are banned. Crime is well under control. Banezium's national animal is the Eagle, which frolics freely in the nation's many lush forests, and its currency is the Creds.



Ethnic Groups: : White: 90%, Black: 10%.
Religions: Christian: 70%, Atheism: 20%, Other: 10%.
Languages: English: 70%, Swedish: 30%.
Literacy Rate: 95%

Currency Conversian Rate: 1 Cred ~ 1.23 USD


Military:

Foot Troops: 543000
Vehicle Personal: 12000
-60 Leopard 2 A6 Tank Divisions
-20 IFV Divisions
-20 HUMMER Divisions
Air Force Personal: 16,000
-1 Apocalypse Bomber
-10 Silent Night Bombers
-110 Eradion Super Fighters (Banezium version of f-14)
-45 F-14 Tomcat Fighters
-7 Mini Fighters
-30 TTV (Troop and Tank Transport Veichle, ofcourse by air)
-4 C-130 Hercules Transporters
Navy: 56,000
-2 Epox Bombardment Ship
-4 Tribune Class Subs
-2 Wepsher Class Subs
-1 Apocalypse Class Battleship
-4 Trinitum Assault Ship
-2 Kalix Class Aircarriers
-1 Army Tanker
-2 Odessa Ship
-45 f-14 Tomcats (+45 Eradion Fighters)
-4 Chinook Choppers
-4 UH60 Sea version
Diplomatic State: Peaceful, but aware of the dangerous world. Allied with the Obersis Empire.
Spec Ops Troops: 5000

Trade:

Exports: Cars, Computers, Meat.
Imports: Military Goods, Oil.

Railroad System: Mostly subway systems.
Road System: 3 National Highways, good condition.
Capital: Tyruma
President: Jez Wepsher
Agrigento
20-12-2003, 17:57
I am really just an honorary member, but like EI said, we still enjoy full membership rights. Asians are in no way near the majority of anything in my nation, but their culture is greatly respected. We are made up predominately by European Latins (Italians).
Five Civilized Nations
20-12-2003, 22:21
*resigns from the Azn Resistance and walks out of the meetings...*

Have fun piecing this alliance together. And good luck! :)
Lost Hills
20-12-2003, 23:59
Sorry to see you leave. I factored your leaving into the budget.

I realized that we only have 4 real areas that need money: Intelligence, Social/Humanities, R&D, and Security. With this the case, I was able to significantly up the amount of money allocated for each area.

The budget:

Total Funds: $3,296,037,092,000

Intelligence: 15%
$494,405,563,800

Social/Humanities: 20%
$659,207,418,500

R&D: 30%
$988,811,127,600

Security: 20%
$659,207,418,500

Discretionary Funds (Extra): 15%
$494,405,563,800

All decisions and calculations have been made by me, with limited input by select committee heads, and all mistakes are mine.
East Islandia
21-12-2003, 00:23
I'm sad to see Five Civilized Nations go.

It's fine, Lost Hills. Mistakes are mistakes, and it doesnt matter very much.

Now, we need to settle some initiatives. Suggestions from the committee heads?

Review my agenda from the page before please.
Marimaia
21-12-2003, 01:32
Marimaia
21-12-2003, 01:33
I know I said I'd post my plans for the Social Committee last weekend, but I got a little sidetracked. Anyway, I've got a basic plan here:


The Social Committee of the Azn Resistance seeks the betterment of all Resistance citizens through the improvement of living standards and the advancement of technology. The Social Committee plans to achieve this aim through the following methods:

1) The Social Committee will institute the "Struggle For Knowledge", a Resistance-wide campaign against illiteracy and ignorance. This campaign will involve night classes for adults and encouraging more time for literacy and numeracy in school for children.

2) The Social Committee will institute the "Resistance Relief Network", a Resistance-wide network of relief centres to aid victims of natural disasters; each Resistance member will have to grant permission for relief centres to be built within their nation. Each relief centre will also have an attached storage facility for foodstuffs and other necessary supplies.

3) The Social Committee will institute the Shimatsu Foundation, a scientific organisation which will research into areas such as desalination, foodstuff cultivation, and clean energy sources, to name but a few examples. The stated aim of the Shimatsu Foundation will be to do all it can to eliminate drought, famine and unnecessary pollution.

4) The Social Committee will institute the "Resistance Development Fund". The RDF will not only consist of financial grants to nations which are developing their infrastructure etc., but it will also have construction specialists available to give technical advice, as well construction teams to assist and speed up the progress of the work.

I'll flesh out the major details tomorrow; it's just that it's 12:30am here in the UK right now, so I'm off to bed.
Five Civilized Nations
22-12-2003, 04:55
If I could, I would like to remain as a neutral observer... Current problems with aliens does not permit my being a full member...
East Islandia
23-12-2003, 04:05
the EI Politburo gives 6 billion Lis (3 billion USD) to the Shimatsu Foundation. the Politburo also ships over components for two desalination plants and a modern, nine bladed propeller system for use on Marimaian submarines.

Excellent work, marimaia.
_Taiwan
25-12-2003, 11:19
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2445417#2445417

Promoting my newest RP, Miss Asia 2004.
East Islandia
26-12-2003, 04:38
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2449445#2449445

of interest; new developments on pages 40-44.

and that Miss Asia compeitition looks... sexy
26-12-2003, 07:26
The alliance must take a vote on whether to go to war.
Dra-pol
26-12-2003, 13:57
The largest army in the alliance is already at war, I'm afraid. The CPRD can't do a thing until the Crusaders are vanquished.
imported_Xiaguo
29-12-2003, 17:40
Xiaguo
Exports-Automobiles, Computers, Minerals, Electronics, Seafood, Chemicals.
Imports-Millitary Equipment, Timber, Steel, and Iron.
Member of The United China Economic Union
Currency-UC Dollar(Used in most United China nations.) 1USD$=22UCD
and Xiaguo Yuan1USD=35XGY
Major Banks-Xiaguo National Bank, Xiaguo Business Bank, Xiaguo Industrial Bank, Xiaguo Agricultural Bank, Bank of UC China(Xiaguo), United Asian Bank.
Tariff of 3% of all goods.
imported_Xiaguo
29-12-2003, 17:48
Xiaguo Will contribute 10million dollarsUSD to "Struggle For Knowledge"resistance for any use. Xiaguo will contibute anything needed. Also 1.6billionUSD dollarsUSD to Building Schools and Buying Materials.
I hope everyone can read, right, think, and suceed.
29-12-2003, 18:13
Much of the alliance is inactive or involved in war.


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Generallisimo Giskard Reventlov of the Confederacy of Tokarev
High Secretariat of the General Council of the Confederation
Marimaia
29-12-2003, 23:44
Many thanks to East Islandia and Xiaguo for their contributions to the Social Committee.

Just a quick update on a couple of issues:

The HQ of the Shimatsu Foundation is currently in the Marimaian city of Moushuan; if there are no objections, Moushuan will become the permanent HQ.

Have any of the Resistance members done any research into clean renewable energy? The Foundation is researching into that area, and any assistance would be greatly appreciated. If the research is particularly valuable to your nation, we can arrange some sort of remittance.
imported_Xiaguo
30-12-2003, 02:41
What about using old age technology and go back with the steam. Instead making the engine smaller and the components smaller having the steam push a stronger and effective force through the tunnels. The engine might weigh about 500pounds MAX. If we cut the engines smaller to weighing about 100 each, we can build one for each wheel and having a more reliable drive. For other things, A steady steam engine will do it....Muhwhahahahaha. Well, it might work? What things am I part of, I seem to missed a lot since I was gone.
East Islandia
30-12-2003, 04:49
East Islandia
30-12-2003, 04:52
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=83581&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=920

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Clean renewable energy?

All over Islandia, there are solar power plants, wind mills, and hydroelectric turbines. We would to glad to contribute all we know.

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People, the Resistance is starting to fall apart after a great start. I will list the inactive members and the active members, and i hope you will respond to this, as well as vote on whether to go to war with the imperialist nations of bonstock and red tide in the link i posted above.

Active
Marimaia
Xiaguo


Inactive
EVERYONE ELSE

So please get back to being active.
Agrigento
30-12-2003, 04:57
ooc: Sorry I have been busy with friends, girlfriend, and family. I am active, just havent posted lately.
30-12-2003, 06:07
OOC: I have been busy too, though with another conflict on NationStates itself.




IC: I have decided to take my forces into war, as not enough members of the Rapid Reaction Force are ready, and complete power over those said forces are not entirely in my control (as of yet).
_Taiwan
30-12-2003, 08:02
OOC: Busy with R.L, won't be on as much.
IC:

"Ermm...An Azn Alliance war with Bonstock would put Taiwan in a very tricky position."

Chen Shui Bian
President of Taiwan
Dra-pol
30-12-2003, 12:17
The CPRD is still trying to settle a three year string of wars that twice destroyed its capital city and killed more than two million of its citizens- this we hope is sufficient excuse for being less than keen to enter fresh conflicts or dispense aid.

Dra-pol has been drawing most of its energy from fossil fuels, though in truth demands have been very low- the population underwent mass ruralisation three generations ago (think Kampuchea), and most areas have no need for electricty beyond that provided for a few radiosets usually via batteries imported from the traditionally tiny city of DaKhiem in the middle of the nation. Small watermills built by collectives for their own use provided limited engine power.

To-day Dra-pol is engaged in considerable modernisation of its power grid as demanded by expansion of cities at Kanggye and Pyongyang. We have put most of our faith in proven hydro-power, though in truth massive dambuilding is something for which our small engineer corps is not highly prepared- a few thousand Drapoel received general engineer training in the west, but few are specialists in this respect. We have the manpower to do most of the work, and we have the economy to back it, but lack the know-how to make it safe and long-lasting.

(The observant may note that inspite of the republic's long-running uranium imports go without mention, mind)
30-12-2003, 18:23
OOC: From the 1st to the 9th I will be working in Costa Rica and will not have access to a computer. I give permission to East Islandia to control the forces I have posted on the thread about the invasion of Japann until the 10th.
East Islandia
30-12-2003, 21:40
If Drapol needs help with rebuilding their infrastructure, Islandia will send several engineer units to the nation to help out with such tasks.

Taiwan, why would you not wish for an Azn Resistance war with Bonstock? They will overrun all of Asia with their imperialism if not stopped.
Marimaia
31-12-2003, 01:18
Dra-pol, as a member of the Resistance you have access to the Resistance Development Fund, should you require it. Rather spending the aid on construction, you could spend it on training instead.

Either post here or TG me if you want to take up this option.
Lost Hills
31-12-2003, 02:32
We vote for war.
imported_Xiaguo
31-12-2003, 03:06
Xiaguo will Proudly JOIN THE WAR.
In an attempt to stop the spread of imperialism, I will confirm Xiaguo will head to war.
100,000 trained combat soldiers has been mobilised and will follow to war.
imported_Xiaguo
31-12-2003, 03:32
lease post the links to any of the related war threads Tokarev and any other nations.