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Phyrric at war with Unum Veritas (So be it spinoff) - Page 2

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Arribastan
18-11-2003, 03:15
one of the 10 Seawolfs not heading towards the USSS fleet, the ARS Alnar, was sitting dead in the water, listening to sonar. the operator, Gorge, said "captain, we've got something on sonar, bearing 020"
"what is it?"
"sounds like another seawolf's torpedo tubes opening up"
"shit. get the Uldo on the gertrude. tell 'em we've got a contact. we're gonna torpedo him."
"yessir."
On the Uldo
"sir, the Alnar says they've got a contact bearing 020. we're to help sink her."
"Robinson!" shouted the captain
"yeah?"
"tell me, do you hear anything at 020?"
"lemme see sir. Yeah, sounds like a seawolf. target designaiton Sierrra-1."
"good. keep a hold of him."
"yessir"
"and Petstarto, get on the gertrude to the Alnar. tell 'em we've got our contact."
"aye-aye, sir"
the two subs closed in on the unsuspecting New Mexico...
Artitsa
18-11-2003, 03:19
And Catholic peoples enslaved and murdered hundreds of thousands of native peoples in the Carribean and South America, because they deemed them inferior. Dark Terror banned catholics as he saw them as a danger to his nation. Simple as that, and we will support any of our allies in expelling a person/peoples that are deemed unsafe. Criminals if you will.
Imminent Deletion
18-11-2003, 03:20
Your friends have made themselves my enemies by supporting my enemies, the cause is the same, the location is just different.

Yeah, I see that I am supporting someone who is supporting someone who is odd, I just don't know why the one I am supporting is supporting the one who is odd.

As fik put it, "I love terrorism, especially when its directed against catholics. They deserve it after 1500 years of massacring jews, moslems, and other christians".

Not to mention we gave our catholics time to leave before exterminating them in the style of the great inquisition, which killed 8 million people.

I am actually a fundamentalist Protestant, but I believe Catholics have the same right to live in freedom as anyone else, regardless of the actions that have been provoked in the past by their beliefs, as long as they abide by our law today. http://www.sc3000.com/forums/images/face1.GIF
Artitsa
18-11-2003, 03:21
double post, baleted.
Agrigento
18-11-2003, 03:22
And Catholic peoples enslaved and murdered hundreds of thousands of native peoples in the Carribean and South America, because they deemed them inferior. Dark Terror banned catholics as he saw them as a danger to his nation. Simple as that, and we will support any of our allies in expelling a person/peoples that are deemed unsafe. Criminals if you will.

Then you have condemned your nation to years of war and strife over something unneccessary and purely evil.

Who are you to judge people generations later.... We cannot atone for the past, for our parents and their parents.

Il dio benedice i nostri soldati
Pissed off Americans
18-11-2003, 03:23
Aboard the New Mexico "CON SONAR I HAVE TRANSIENT NOISE BEARING ONE TWO FIVE, SOUNDS LIKE ANOTHER SEAWOLF?"

"SONAR CON IS IT THE TEXAS?"

"CON SONAR I CANT GET A FIX"

"Try to get the Texas on the gerty, I have a bad feeling about this"

It was possibly the skippers first and last mistake.
Imminent Deletion
18-11-2003, 03:25
Your friends have made themselves my enemies by supporting my enemies, the cause is the same, the location is just different.

Yeah, I see that I am supporting someone who is supporting someone who is odd, I just don't know why the one I am supporting is supporting the one who is odd.

As fik put it, "I love terrorism, especially when its directed against catholics. They deserve it after 1500 years of massacring jews, moslems, and other christians".

Not to mention we gave our catholics time to leave before exterminating them in the style of the great inquisition, which killed 8 million people.

I am actually a fundamentalist Protestant, but I believe Catholics have the same right to live in freedom as anyone else, regardless of the actions that have been provoked in the past by their beliefs, as long as they abide by our law today. http://www.sc3000.com/forums/images/face1.GIF
Arribastan
18-11-2003, 03:28
"Flood torpedo tubes"
this was heard on both ARN subs.
"fire tubes one and two"
"fire tubes 3 and 4"
from each sub, MK48 torpedos sped out of the Seawolves.
OOC:g2g, I'll be back tomorrow
Artitsa
18-11-2003, 03:29
as long as they abide by our law today.

And they weren't abiding Dark Terror's law. Therefor they were removed. There had been plenty of time to leave. And Also, you cannot compare what he did to Nazi Germany. I personally take that as an insult. The catholics are treated much better than the poor jewish families that had to live through that strife. I even took some of the Catholics, off his hands, and they life happily here. I have a miriad of races here, as Artitsa chooses to remain Athiest. Its not so much the fact we dislike Catholics, as much as we dislike people telling our Ally what to do. Especially when they have no right to talk. If Islamic peoples became violent in your nation, I am sure you would do something about it. DT merely took it to the next level.

ooc: I am Canadian. I believe in all levels of equality.
18-11-2003, 03:43
Largeheadlandiaburg tends to have a policy of neutrality towards interregional wars but this had gone on long enough and we are send in the 5th, 10th and 12th Carrier Task forces along with the 4th and 17th Tostach Marfiors Submarine packs

each task forces consists of---
6 Doscriosta class Aircraft Carriers
16 Iowa class Battleships
10 DDG-993 KIDD-class Destroyers
14 CG-16 Leahy class Cruisers
28 FFG-7 Oliver Hazard Perry class frigates
8 AOE-1 Fast Combat Support Ship
8 LPH-2 IWO JIMA class Amphibious Assault Ships, 1750 Marines each, armament, vehicles, equipment and a reinforced squadron of transport helicopters and various support personnel
7 LHX amphibious assault ships with 20 AV-8B Harriers and 2,000 Marines with LCAC's
7 AE-21 Nitro class Ammunition ships

and each of the The Tostach Marfiors Submarine Packs consist of---
21 SSN-688 Los Angeles class submarines
10 SSN-21 Seawolf class submarines
7 SSGN-726 Ohio class submarines
6 SSN-637 Sturgeon class submarines
Pissed off Americans
18-11-2003, 03:44
Aboard the New Mexico "SHIT! CON SOANR TORPEDOS IN THE WATER!

"SONAR CON WHERE!?"

"BEARING ONE TWO FIVE!

The Texas? "OH MY GOD, FIRE NOISE MAKERS, SNAP SHOT DOWN THE SAME BEARINGS!'

"FIRE"

"How could I have been so..........."

the ARN MK48 found its mark! The Snap shot fired from the New Mexico went active as it left the tube. Only time would tell
Phyrric
18-11-2003, 03:45
as long as they abide by our law today.

And they weren't abiding Dark Terror's law. Therefor they were removed. There had been plenty of time to leave. And Also, you cannot compare what he did to Nazi Germany. I personally take that as an insult. The catholics are treated much better than the poor jewish families that had to live through that strife. I even took some of the Catholics, off his hands, and they life happily here. I have a miriad of races here, as Artitsa chooses to remain Athiest. Its not so much the fact we dislike Catholics, as much as we dislike people telling our Ally what to do. Especially when they have no right to talk. If Islamic peoples became violent in your nation, I am sure you would do something about it. DT merely took it to the next level.

ooc: I am Canadian. I believe in all levels of equality.

Curious....

If I started a new thread announcing I was now sending Jews to the ovens again, basically the same as DT has done and UV went running to his aid, what response would I get do you think, being a member of the NJA as yourself? I cannot stand ignorance.
The Macabees
18-11-2003, 03:46
To: All
From: Madrid

We are not in this war, we have not declared war, we have merely sent ships as lend-lease to Dark Terror. WE HAVE NOT ALLIED OURSELVES TO HIM BECAUSE OF RELIGIOUS INDIFFERENCES (and im not Jewish, Im deist, my father is Jewish), we have allied ourselves to him for the mere fact that he is part of the GrossDeutschland Union and thus as the president and the founder of the constitution which clearly states that all members must defend other members, and put the GDU above all other alliance, I have aligned myself with Zossen, Artitsa and Dark Terror.

I am not here to increase my empire. I barely believe that the odds are in our favor. And I respect your opinions and your arguments, but as allies we put aside religious or political indifferences.

I do not agree with Dark Terror's poor treatment of the Catholics. But I am not the leader of his nation and I have no right to dictate his moves and as a leader of his nation I have to respect his decisions, no matter how discordial they are.

You, in turn, have threatened both Artitsa and Dark Terror with invasion, according to sources undefined here. So, as belligerent towards my allies, I have placed myself under their umbrella and await your onslaught.

A formal declaration of war will not be issued until we are really at war. War with us will be provoked if your fleets ever come under the range of our coastal guns (100km) in which you will meet the deadly and precise fire of many 400mm guns and the fleet that we have posted in those waters.

We thank you for your time and for you reading this,
[signed]Jonathan Finegold III

"Viva el Imperio Macabeo!"
Artitsa
18-11-2003, 03:49
Go for it. I would call you a Nazi who has no reason to do so. If you could prove that they were commiting crimes and so forth, then yeah, you can kick em out, or place them in confinement like Dark Terror. But instead you would be Murdering them. Say it with me now... good. Theres quite a difference between genocide and internment. I hate ignorant war mongers.
Agrigento
18-11-2003, 03:52
Go for it. I would call you a Nazi who has no reason to do so. If you could prove that they were commiting crimes and so forth, then yeah, you can kick em out, or place them in confinement like Dark Terror. But instead you would be Murdering them. Say it with me now... good. Theres quite a difference between genocide and internment. I hate ignorant war mongers.

How blind...how blind we have become... :roll:
Artitsa
18-11-2003, 03:54
Go for it. I would call you a Nazi who has no reason to do so. If you could prove that they were commiting crimes and so forth, then yeah, you can kick em out, or place them in confinement like Dark Terror. But instead you would be Murdering them. Say it with me now... good. Theres quite a difference between genocide and internment. I hate ignorant war mongers.

How blind...how blind we have become... :roll:

Well... my retinas were burned at an early age.
Phyrric
18-11-2003, 03:54
For each day the war goes unended, 100 catholics will be slowly sawed to pieces, well youg et the point. Since they're guarded by some of the most battle ready units in the Bisonic army, as well as spec ops forces, dont even think of trying to "liberate" them.

need I say more and your ally is a god send? please read the threads people, this is exactly why this war is going on.
East Islandia
18-11-2003, 03:59
OOC
Genocide in any way, shape or form is bad
we EI, being a mix of Asians and a few Jewish expatriates, have decided to move against any nation that dare kill or exploit ethnicities. Hell the NAIA is against that, so i dont understand why UV would support DT in this.
And Artitsa, using dive bombers is outdated. very outdated.

IC
To Macabees:
We regret that we must fight you, but since circumstances are what theyare, we will not back down, adn we trust, neither will you. Perhaps we could find some sort of solution that will be mutual pleasing, removing the Catholics from DT, getting reparations, try those guilty, and backing down all around.
Or not.
*********************

OOC DT, how feasible is it to insert special operations forces into your country? Is it supremely guarded, heavily guarded, or juss damned hard to get into? Or none of the above, but plz specify how hard it is.

IC
Forward teams of Sea Dragons, the EI Navy's special ops and counterterror unit have begun preparations for insertions into hostile territory.

*******************

FOur Naga class cruisers, three Xishan medium cruisers, five Urgent Tidings class cruisers, five Typhoon class destroyers, and seven Panther class assault ships have been dispatched. The First Engagement Group has arrived, and the Fifth and Sixth Advanced Fighter Divisions are being dispatched.
*******

OOC
i gg now.. been sleeping badly lately.
The Macabees
18-11-2003, 04:02
OOC: DAMMIT.. I havent declared war... IM LEND LEASING...
Pissed off Americans
18-11-2003, 04:05
It did not take Hitler long to "prove" the Jews were behind the downfall of Germany. How easy it was for him to claim they were criminals. It would appear your ally DT is doing just the same.

At least the Jews were gassed, DT is Sawing Catholics into little pieces! He would make Hitler proud!

Go ahead and turn a blind eye. It will all just go away.............
Artitsa
18-11-2003, 04:08
((I know its outdated... but its just so much fun! I was actually just seeing how well it would work. Not very, but the SS-101 does work wonders against Armoured divisions. If Phyrric ever does attempt to invade me, you'll see how and why. My new Carrier fleets will soon be replaced by UE's new bomber... that thing is uber.))

IC: Under alot of international pressure, the President of Artitsa will be traveling to Dark Terror, in order to conduct an agreement to take the Catholics. Artitsa does not condone Dark Terror's actions to its people, but the government had wished to stay out of DT's forign affairs, but apparently it is unable to do so, with so many people breathing down its neck. In other news, Artitsa's Pacific wall nears completion, thanks to generous grants from several nations.
Agrigento
18-11-2003, 04:08
OOC: DAMMIT.. I havent declared war... IM LEND LEASING...

ooc: Yes, but it is possible in the future, and speaking for Will (EI) in his absence, I think that is what he was referring to.
Artitsa
18-11-2003, 04:10
It did not take Hitler long to "prove" the Jews were behind the downfall of Germany. How easy it was for him to claim they were criminals. It would appear your ally DT is doing just the same.

At least the Jews were gassed, DT is Sawing Catholics into little pieces! He would make Hitler proud!

Go ahead and turn a blind eye. It will all just go away.............

Thats what I've been trying to do!
And Im not to happy with what hes doing to the Catholics in his Gulags. Torturing people is just wrong, and even Artitsa knows that. We will make a deal with DT one way or another to gain those catholics from him. But we will continue to defend both DT and UV.
The Macabees
18-11-2003, 04:12
OOC: Yes the SS-101 works quite well. It's underbelly is quite protected and under the guidance of good pilots (Artitsan and Macabean pilots are top notch) they rarely show their weak points. I've destroyed thousands upon thousands of armored weaponry with SS-101's and they're working wonderfully in North Africa in WWIX.

NOTE: I had a join research with Artitsa fro the SS line thus I also produce them but not sell them.
The Macabees
18-11-2003, 04:18
OOC:

GDU Constitution

#1 :: All members must mobilize in the defence of their GDU members

#2 :: All members hereby cannot declare war without the ratyfication from atleast 2 other GDU members.

#3 :: The GDU alliance is above all other alliances and no member may declare war against any other member w/o reasonable grounds, even if it was another alliance's dicision.
Pissed off Americans
18-11-2003, 04:24
To: Commander Agrigento Forces

From: Commander RPA Forces

Commander, we are engaging the UV fleet presently engaged with your forces. Please advise IFF and established CAP zones. Good hunting
Phyrric
18-11-2003, 04:25
OOC:

GDU Constitution

#1 :: All members must mobilize in the defence of their GDU members

#2 :: All members hereby cannot declare war without the ratyfication from atleast 2 other GDU members.

#3 :: The GDU alliance is above all other alliances and no member may declare war against any other member w/o reasonable grounds, even if it was another alliance's dicision.

#1 :: unlawful orders are authorized to be questioned even in the military and civilian life. your wife tells you to kill your son, do you do it?
Phyrric
18-11-2003, 04:30
Largeheadlandiaburg tends to have a policy of neutrality towards interregional wars but this had gone on long enough and we are send in the 5th, 10th and 12th Carrier Task forces along with the 4th and 7th Tostach Marfiors Submarine packs

each task forces consists of---
6 Doscriosta class Aircraft Carriers
16 Iowa class Battleships
10 DDG-993 KIDD-class Destroyers
14 CG-16 Leahy class Cruisers
28 FFG-7 Oliver Hazard Perry class frigates
8 AOE-1 Fast Combat Support Ship
8 LPH-2 IWO JIMA class Amphibious Assault Ships, 1750 Marines each, armament, vehicles, equipment and a reinforced squadron of transport helicopters and various support personnel

7 LHX amphibious assault ships with 20 AV-8B Harriers and 2,000 Marines with LCAC's
7 AE-21 Nitro class Ammunition ships

and each of the The Tostach Marfiors Submarine Packs consist of---
21 SSN-688 Los Angeles class submarines
10 SSN-21 Seawolf class submarines
7 SSGN-726 Ohio class submarines
6 SSN-637 Sturgeon class submarines

headed? side?
Agrigento
18-11-2003, 04:31
To: Commander Agrigento Forces

From: Commander RPA Forces

Commander, we are engaging the UV fleet presently engaged with your forces. Please advise IFF and established CAP zones. Good hunting

To: Commander RPA Forces
From: Admiral Giancaldo, CINC 1st Fleet

We thank you for your aid. Currently we have more ships en-route from home, the 3rd Fleet to be exact. The subs associated with our fleet, from the Seventh and Ninth Submarine forces respectively, are already engaging enemy hostiles.

ooc: I'm going to bed soon, no more IC posts until tom.
The Macabees
18-11-2003, 04:31
Family issues are not revelant to a spectrum where the lives of entire nations are dictated by single battles and the lives of over 1.5 billion people can be changed within a week.
Artitsa
18-11-2003, 04:31
Largeheadlandiaburg tends to have a policy of neutrality towards interregional wars but this had gone on long enough and we are send in the 5th, 10th and 12th Carrier Task forces along with the 4th and 7th Tostach Marfiors Submarine packs

each task forces consists of---
6 Doscriosta class Aircraft Carriers
16 Iowa class Battleships
10 DDG-993 KIDD-class Destroyers
14 CG-16 Leahy class Cruisers
28 FFG-7 Oliver Hazard Perry class frigates
8 AOE-1 Fast Combat Support Ship
8 LPH-2 IWO JIMA class Amphibious Assault Ships, 1750 Marines each, armament, vehicles, equipment and a reinforced squadron of transport helicopters and various support personnel


headed? side?

headed? side?
7 LHX amphibious assault ships with 20 AV-8B Harriers and 2,000 Marines with LCAC's
7 AE-21 Nitro class Ammunition ships

and each of the The Tostach Marfiors Submarine Packs consist of---
21 SSN-688 Los Angeles class submarines
10 SSN-21 Seawolf class submarines
7 SSGN-726 Ohio class submarines
6 SSN-637 Sturgeon class submarines

I refuse to recognize any of this, until you can prove half of the nations posting here are not your puppets. You agreed to a set number of allies and yet you throw it out the window.
Agrigento
18-11-2003, 04:33
ooc:

Phyrric: hes a Regional Ally, I contacted him through AIM. Since he is gone, lets assume he is currently en-route, in close formation with my 3rd Fleet.

Artitsa: How about we get a Mod to oversee it? I know they have done it in the past...and I have nothing to hid!

You have just as many allies as us....in war there are no guarantees.

Nationstates = Pre WWI Europe, its a powderkeg of public and secret alliaces.
Phyrric
18-11-2003, 04:33
Family issues are not revelant to a spectrum where the lives of entire nations are dictated by single battles and the lives of over 1.5 billion people can be changed within a week.

and you are being drawn into war over genocide that an ally is starting....better start questioning the actions of allies or this alliance is destined a short life.
Phyrric
18-11-2003, 04:34
where did I say I would limit it?
Phyrric
18-11-2003, 04:35
ooc:

Phyrric: hes a Regional Ally, I contacted him through AIM. Since he is gone, lets assume he is currently en-route, in close formation with my 3rd Fleet.

Artitsa: How about we get a Mod to oversee it? I know they have done it in the past...and I have nothing to hid!

thanks, if a mod is brought in, be prepared for the sh*t storm, especially if they were participants in the Amerigo Slave War. This will bring back some haunting memories and might get some totally destroyed. This thread is a spinoff, of a spinoff. Zenti and the slave trade alliance which DT is also an alliance with is the issue. That is where the Catholic Gulag comes from in DT that is committing the genocide.
Artitsa
18-11-2003, 04:36
Ok. I just don't like the sudden influx of Febuary nations with under 100 posts... smells of Puppets to me.
The Macabees
18-11-2003, 04:39
Please understand what I am saying. Religious ideologies are not in question here (in my view). This is a political travesty that I cannot overlook. A foreign power occupying a regional member is more than I can handle and I have made it my foreign policy to never allow a foreign nation touch a grain of sand from my region's borders. As regional founder and UN delegate I see that as my responsibility.

This trust in which we instill in ourselves is what allows us to prosper. No matter what ideologies we take we will always stay united and that's what a nationalistic alliance is all about.

What clouds this view is religious ideologies and Artitsa, Zossen and I have understood this, so we put ourselves over that and go protect a very close ally and friend. Therefore we are here today, standing before you, and although your empire towers over ours, we hold steady against the face of a beast.
Agrigento
18-11-2003, 04:45
Please understand what I am saying. Religious ideologies are not in question here (in my view). This is a political travesty that I cannot overlook. A foreign power occupying a regional member is more than I can handle and I have made it my foreign policy to never allow a foreign nation touch a grain of sand from my region's borders. As regional founder and UN delegate I see that as my responsibility.

This trust in which we instill in ourselves is what allows us to prosper. No matter what ideologies we take we will always stay united and that's what a nationalistic alliance is all about.

What clouds this view is religious ideologies and Artitsa, Zossen and I have understood this, so we put ourselves over that and go protect a very close ally and friend. Therefore we are here today, standing before you, and although your empire towers over ours, we hold steady against the face of a beast.

You seem to play the victim, the underdog pitted in a fight against unjust oppressors.....you are deceiving only yourself.

We offered peace, through both Phyrric and East Islandia, but those have all been denied. Dark Terror is the true aggressor, even if it is within his own borders.

Now I understand your loyalties, and I respect that. I once counted myself amongst Dark Terror's allies. I fought alongside him, just have you had. I asked him to stop the mistreatment of catholics, he denied me that much. So here I am, having exhausted all other alternatives I have made ready for war.

Mario Corleone
President of Agrigento
Address to the Macabee Government
Imminent Deletion
18-11-2003, 04:49
And they weren't abiding Dark Terror's law.

...which is reason to subject them to cruel and unusual punishment?

Oh, what a mess....

If I started a new thread announcing I was now sending Jews to the ovens again, basically the same as DT has done and UV went running to his aid, what response would I get do you think, being a member of the NJA as yourself? I cannot stand ignorance.

Good question. I entered this conflict under the assumption that Unum Veritas was only trying to protect his ally, but 2/3 of my population has left because they do not agree with my position in this war. Let's say that if I took this game as seriously as I do my beliefs, I wouldn't be operating 900-foot hovercraft. http://www.sc3000.com/forums/images/face4.GIF
Phyrric
18-11-2003, 04:58
jfyi

alliances updated on page 1
Phyrric
18-11-2003, 05:06
Please understand what I am saying. Religious ideologies are not in question here (in my view). This is a political travesty that I cannot overlook. A foreign power occupying a regional member is more than I can handle and I have made it my foreign policy to never allow a foreign nation touch a grain of sand from my region's borders. As regional founder and UN delegate I see that as my responsibility.

This trust in which we instill in ourselves is what allows us to prosper. No matter what ideologies we take we will always stay united and that's what a nationalistic alliance is all about.

What clouds this view is religious ideologies and Artitsa, Zossen and I have understood this, so we put ourselves over that and go protect a very close ally and friend. Therefore we are here today, standing before you, and although your empire towers over ours, we hold steady against the face of a beast.

I do respect your treaty commitments, but is the treaty worth honoring when it violates the very fundamental beliefs of society and all human kind? (or elf kind or whatever blood flows) UV was not listed on your GDU alliance, therefor, cannot begin to understand the reason the Artitsa and yourself are even involved. Artitsa made the initial threat which by your own treaty guidelines, would be an unjust act of war, would it not?
No Phyrric forces ever landed on DT, but brought this war to another theater. In this thread, Artitsa threatened war with Phyrric and annexation. This thread here is a spinoff of this thread. If Phyrric did indeed attack Artitsa, our actions would be very justified in doing so.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2131690#2131690
Pissed off Americans
18-11-2003, 05:16
The aircraft then returned to their respective carriers.

"Reagan, Spade Flight inbound to target!"
"SpadeOne Reagan copies, Sierra Hotel!"

The Strike packages launched from the 6 carriers began to arrive over the UV fleet. Catching the UV carriers in a re-arm/re-fuel was an absolute dream!

Strike Packages:
Reagan
12 F-14D Strike CAP
18 F/A-18 (2 Harpoon each)
20 F/A-35 JSF (10 w/ 2 each HARM Anti-radar 10 w/ 2 each Maverick GM)
2 E/A-6B Prowler (Electronic Warfare)

Bush
12 F-14D Strike CAP
20 F/A-18 (2 Harpoon each)
16 F/A-35 JSF (10 w/ 2 each HARM 6 w/ 2 each Maverick)
2 E/A-6B Prowler (EW)

Horne
16 F-14D Strike CAP
30 F/A-18 (2 Harpoon each)
8 E/A-6B Prowler (EW)

Stubbs
20 F-14D Strike CAP
10 F/A-18 (2 Harpoon each)
4 E/A-6B Prowler (EW)

Powell
16 F-14 Strike CAP
18 F/A-18 (2 Harpoon each)
10 F/A-35 JSF (2 HARM each)
2 E/A-6B Prowler (EW)

Marino
18 F-14D Strike CAP
20 F/A-18 (2 Harpoon each)
5 F/A-35 JSF (2 HARM each)
3 E/A-6B Prowler (EW)

Combat Loses
15 F-14 (6 Air to Air 3 Mechanical 6 SAM)
28 F/A-18 (8 SAM prior to weapons release, 10 SAM 1 Mechanical 9 Air to Air)
18 F/A-35 JSF (3 prior to weapons release, 15 SAM)
5 E/A-6B (3 Air to Air 2 SAM)

UV post losses please!
Pissed off Americans
18-11-2003, 05:28
Ok. I just don't like the sudden influx of Febuary nations with under 100 posts... smells of Puppets to me.

If you are referring to me, Back off! I just dont LIVE on NS like some people do! Feel free to check my Posts and bring a Mod in!
Phyrric
18-11-2003, 05:28
Moving to support our ally Phyrric, we are sending the following fleet to be placed under the command of Phyrric commanders:

6 Imperium class Aircraft Carriers (60 planes each)
12 Himelburg class Aircraft Carriers (12 VTOL planes each)
11 Blatterschplitt class Arsenal Ships (550 VSL cells)
16 Gerburg class Arsenal Ships (150 VSL cells)
20 Pythonia-SSD (surface to surface destroyer)
20 Pythonia-SAD (surface to air destroyer)
14 Pythonia-ASD (anti submarine destroyer)
10 Pythonia-SBD (surface bombardment destroyer)
40 Landia Long-Range Missile/Patrol Boats
6 Imperatrix class Missile Boat Carriers
90 AXD-1 Surface-to-Surface Missile Boats
90 AXD-2 Surface-to-Air Missile Boats
60 AXD-3 Anti-Submarine Patrol Boats
60 AXD-4 Fleet Defense Missile Boats
20 Lavernia Nuclear Attack Submarines
15 Nanaki Nuclear Missile Submarines

The following fighters are based on the aircraft carriers:
180 YT/A-2 Hellions unmanned fighter/interceptors
180 PT/A-1 Scarab unmanned fighter/bombers
72 YT/C-2 Hellion VTOLs
72 PT/C-1 Scarab VTOLs

Each Pythonia-ASD carries two Gryphon-2S anti-submarine attack helicopter.

<<OOC: Some notes on Edolian weaponry:

All Edolian ships except for the arsenals (and of course the subs) have trimaran hulls. This gives them increased stability in the water, better protection against torpedos and lower radar profiles. All ships are build with enclosed, sloping hulls which give them very lower radar profiles.

Edolian fighters are unmanned and remote-controlled from bunkers in the Motherland. They are expensive but extremely maneuverable and because they are equipped with scramjets, very fast. They are approximately 2013 tech but if this is being played at a lower tech level, they can have regular engines instead of scramjets. Questions regarding their tech should be sent to me via telegram. I can send some articles if you would like that should be able to help (I don't have the urls on hand but I could dig them up if necessary).

Arsenal ships are low-profile, stealthy floating missile tubes. They carry a large array of surface-to-surface missiles that can be fired off very quickly if necessary.

Sorry I can't control this. I promised Phyrric I'd send forces to help out but I don't have time to do this RP so they're under his command.

Good luck.>>

"Sir, Edolian forces have finally reached the staging areas"

"Absolutely great, tell them to puch a whole in the outer forces trying to penetrate the perimeter. Have them do a full assault on Arribastan and knock them out of this war. This should take pressure off of Pissed off Americans and secure our supply chain."

"Aye sir, we will send this with Gods speed"
Agrigento
18-11-2003, 05:30
ooc: on the subject of puppets artitsa:

Yes, they are puppets, but my point is they are not nations. They are regions of my own country. I do not RP with them, I only log in to keep them from getting deleted, actually.
Phyrric
18-11-2003, 05:46
ooc: on the subject of puppets artitsa:

Yes, they are puppets, but my point is they are not nations. They are regions of my own country. I do not RP with them, I only log in to keep them from getting deleted, actually.

It was agreed for no puppets, but I am unaware of any being used at this point. Pauldustlah and Ilek-Vaad are allies in the UNAOTO organization. Pissed off American has most certainly posted more on this thread than any other thread I have seen him in. (He is a co-worker and our styles of posts are extremely different) Personally, and nothing negative mind you, with only 10 posts from IV for such an old Nation, I do not know how s/he managed to stay undeleted all this time.
Phyrric
18-11-2003, 06:11
wow, never did I think this would go to 300 posts and 2000 views

ok ok, most posts were bitching, but aren't they all :lol:

just had to throw in a comic relief so we can get back to this tomorrow on a fresh start.
18-11-2003, 13:37
OOC:

Spec ops in my country? Along the lines of suicidal, well just detect them flying in with lookdown radars.

This is going right down to ignorefest..
Artitsa
18-11-2003, 13:47
whew I was sleeping. Ok as long as they ain't puppets. UV if you bring in puppets I will withdraw my forces.
imported_Ilek-Vaad
18-11-2003, 15:29
somewhere in near orbit.......................


"Tollan Fire Control, this is Rainman. Taskforce is at maximum service range. Beginning final approach."-rainman

"Roger that Rainman, target verification being set.Set cruise missles for unassisted descent with assisted target burn."-fire control

"Copy that. Taskforce setting targets, setting ordinance. Awaiting confirmation."-rainman

"Rainman, this is Fire Control, set final targeting. Verification received. Let them have it. My Life for the Republic"-fire control

"Roger that Fire Control. Let them have it. My Life for the Republic."

with that 5 squadrons of Ilek-Vaad's 'Deaths Head' sub-orbital stealth bombers release their payloads of MOAB cruise missles. The targets are all in Unum Veritas. Fire Control is using it's spy satellites to target Unum Veritas' and it's allies auxillary forces (ie forces not at the front, but at any staging areas, areas in reserve.).

The cruise missles have a range of 1500 miles so the bombers are likely 800-900 miles away, at mach speed the cruise missles will reach their targets swiftly, with the MOAB warheads creating miniature mushroom clouds as they strike their targets.

At the same time- 2 BattleGroups of the Naval Guard slip silently in behind Phyrric's navy, covering their rear and flanks form any attacks by hostile naval forces.
Eris Kallisti
18-11-2003, 18:15
((OOC: gah! I'm gone for one day and this thread gets twice as long, if not longer! geeze. Ok... well, I'm still trying to figure out who's positioned where. Please let me know, cuz I'm having a hard time figuring it out in all this mess. In the meantime my fleets have shown up on the borders.
and one last thing. PoA is not a puppet. I know that one for a fact))

*The Kallistian Fleet comes into view on the borders of International waters. It seems they have brought with them their entire navy. Eris Kallisti is known for its naval fleet, and its their only known offensive except for their fairly new Airforce... though that seems to be no where i sight... yet...*

3 Arsenal Ships
9 Shearwater-Class Battleships
6 Kitty Hawk-Class Aircraft Carriers
6 Dominion-Class Aircraft Carriers
12 Clemenceau-Class Aircraft Carriers
12 Wasp-Class Amphibious Assault Ships
24 Ticonderoga-Class Guided Missile Destroyers
24 Arleigh Burke-Class Destroyers
24 Tripoli-Class Destroyers
24 Avalon-Class Guided Missile Submarines
24 Austin-Class Landing Ship Docks
48 Halifax-Class Frigates
49 Seawolf-Class Attack Submarines
6 Alex Haley-Class Rescue/Salvage Cutters
12 Hamilton-Class Coast Guard Cutters
12 Mercy-Class Hospital Ships
24 Kilauea-Class Ammunition Tenders
24 Henry J. Kaiser-Class Fleet Oilers
24 Mars-Class Combat Stores Ships
24 Avenger-Class Mine Countermeasures Ships
48 Cape D Roll-On/Roll-Off Transports
48 Troop Transports (Various Classes)
48 Island-Class Coast Guard Cutters
48 Point-Class Coast Guard Cutters
72 AV-8B Harrier II Attack Fighters
108 E-2C Hawkeye AWACS Aircraft
114 S-3B Viking ASW Aircraft
240 A-24 Corsair III Light Attack Fighters
360 F-14D Tomcat Fighters
600 F/A-18E Super Hornet Fighters
48 UH-1N Twin Huey Helicopters
48 AH-1W Super Cobra Attack Helicopters
120 CH-53 Sea Stallion Helicopters
270 SH-60 Sea Hawk Helicopters
356 CH-46 Sea Knight Helicopters

<~*coded message to allies*~>
What on earth is going on out there? Where are we needed? We'll be holding position for now untill some one can give us some insight.

General Noir
Head of Kallistian Millitary
<~*End Message*~>
East Islandia
18-11-2003, 19:33
OOC:

Spec ops in my country? Along the lines of suicidal, well just detect them flying in with lookdown radars.

This is going right down to ignorefest..


OOC
U can get any spec ops into any country.
Well.. if u cant, i still can, considering my special forces are among the best in NS, not to brag.
and detect ppl wit radar? good luck

IC
The black shape of the Zhou class submarine was a flitting shadow in the night. Aboard were members of the Sea Dragons, the Islandian Navy Special Forces, and they were preparing for a night insertion into DT. The target tonight was a command and control structure.
18-11-2003, 19:54
OOC:
Wrong! I made a technology which uses sattelites to find the displacements a sub makes back in april. Not too exact, but if we find spec ops subs we use nuclear depth charges and they just die. Also, my other coast makes the atlantic wall look like some toy, if youre landing there youd get blown to pieces several times over. If youre landing where fluffyuwffy landed, thats fine, but its a ww1ish front there as Artitsa and I simply throw 150,000 troops and 10,000 tanks at his beachhead (hes toast).
18-11-2003, 19:59
Dark Terror has also gone to its close ally Russian Forces and the Marxist Pact for help, they are not big fans of crusaders!

Dark Terror is also declaring itself an enemy of ALL religion, which is referred to as "Opium for the people".
18-11-2003, 20:16
***Encrypted Burst Transmission to Unum Veritas***

Our fleets have arrived at the designated coordinates. No other ships in sight. Please advise where you'd like us to strike.

***End***
Nianacio
18-11-2003, 20:24
Dark Terror is also declaring itself an enemy of ALL religion, which is referred to as "Opium for the people".Getting your enemies even more angry with you is not usually good for your health.
18-11-2003, 20:26
Dark Terror is also declaring itself an enemy of ALL religion, which is referred to as "Opium for the people".Getting your enemies even more angry with you is not usually good for your health.
My enemies can go to hell since I am defecting to the Marxist pact.
East Islandia
18-11-2003, 21:32
OOC
wutever. Since i cant ignore you inside ur own nation, i wont send spec ops.

IC
Zhou 122 (Tropical Rain) has been diverted from DT and has been posted in UV waters, serving as a backup spec ops sub for rescues and extractions.
Another two Zhou class subs configured for spec ops, 144 (Sekiko) and 110 (Xiao Pinwei) have joined Tropical Rain on station near UV.

About thirty special forces operatives have been or are being inserted into UV.


Zhou 155, Man'an, has fired long range conventional Land Attack Cruise Missiles at DT from stations in the Pacific. The launch included thirty LACMs.

The Strategic Corps has fired forty conventional intercontinental range LACMs at DT.

********
EJ34s and EH9s arrive near DT to probe the Air defences.
RH9s begin high speed runs over DT to gather intelligence on the country.
Arribastan
18-11-2003, 21:42
OOC: i finally got back. PoA, did you launch that torpedo at me? if not, ignore this post.
IC:"Fish in the water, fish in the water!" the sonarman screamed. "bearing 020!"
"launch noisemakers. as many as possible."
"2...3...4 noisemakers launched, captain."
"evasive manuvers!" the captain shouted to the helmsman
"evasive manuvers, aye, captain"
the seawolf shot into various manuvers, attempting to evade the torpedo.
it missed, hitting a noisemaker and detonating.
imported_Skepticism
18-11-2003, 22:53
somewhere in near orbit.......................


"Tollan Fire Control, this is Rainman. Taskforce is at maximum service range. Beginning final approach."-rainman

"Roger that Rainman, target verification being set.Set cruise missles for unassisted descent with assisted target burn."-fire control

"Copy that. Taskforce setting targets, setting ordinance. Awaiting confirmation."-rainman

"Rainman, this is Fire Control, set final targeting. Verification received. Let them have it. My Life for the Republic"-fire control

"Roger that Fire Control. Let them have it. My Life for the Republic."

with that 5 squadrons of Ilek-Vaad's 'Deaths Head' sub-orbital stealth bombers release their payloads of MOAB cruise missles. The targets are all in Unum Veritas. Fire Control is using it's spy satellites to target Unum Veritas' and it's allies auxillary forces (ie forces not at the front, but at any staging areas, areas in reserve.).

The cruise missles have a range of 1500 miles so the bombers are likely 800-900 miles away, at mach speed the cruise missles will reach their targets swiftly, with the MOAB warheads creating miniature mushroom clouds as they strike their targets.

At the same time- 2 BattleGroups of the Naval Guard slip silently in behind Phyrric's navy, covering their rear and flanks form any attacks by hostile naval forces.

OOC: Consider yourself IGNORED, and this is coming from a guy on your side. Future and/or space forces are not allowed in this battle, and you give no reason why you are attacking in the first place anyway.

I will try to be on for real posting later tonight, although quite frankly I'd prefer a more limited conflict that this sprawling mayhem.
18-11-2003, 23:06
Unum, once I finish nuking the Nianancian fleet, my naval forces will be sent to aid you.
Phyrric
18-11-2003, 23:13
Dark Terror is also declaring itself an enemy of ALL religion, which is referred to as "Opium for the people".Getting your enemies even more angry with you is not usually good for your health.
My enemies can go to hell since I am defecting to the Marxist pact.

Where does this leave you in regards to your current allies that came screaming to your defense. Sounds like a betrayal and reason for an immediate suit for peace.
jmo :roll:
imported_Ilek-Vaad
18-11-2003, 23:18
As I posted yesterday, I am supporting my ally Phyrric. I am not using any 'future tech'. When you think of sub-orbital stealth bomber, think B-1 (those are quite real and exist today.) .Currently the U.S. military also uses GPS satellite for targeting and uses a MOAB (Massive Ordinance Air Burst) bomb.




somewhere in near orbit.......................


"Tollan Fire Control, this is Rainman. Taskforce is at maximum service range. Beginning final approach."-rainman

"Roger that Rainman, target verification being set.Set cruise missles for unassisted descent with assisted target burn."-fire control

"Copy that. Taskforce setting targets, setting ordinance. Awaiting confirmation."-rainman

"Rainman, this is Fire Control, set final targeting. Verification received. Let them have it. My Life for the Republic"-fire control

"Roger that Fire Control. Let them have it. My Life for the Republic."

with that 5 squadrons of Ilek-Vaad's 'Deaths Head' sub-orbital stealth bombers release their payloads of MOAB cruise missles. The targets are all in Unum Veritas. Fire Control is using it's spy satellites to target Unum Veritas' and it's allies auxillary forces (ie forces not at the front, but at any staging areas, areas in reserve.).

The cruise missles have a range of 1500 miles so the bombers are likely 800-900 miles away, at mach speed the cruise missles will reach their targets swiftly, with the MOAB warheads creating miniature mushroom clouds as they strike their targets.

At the same time- 2 BattleGroups of the Naval Guard slip silently in behind Phyrric's navy, covering their rear and flanks form any attacks by hostile naval forces.

OOC: Consider yourself IGNORED, and this is coming from a guy on your side. Future and/or space forces are not allowed in this battle, and you give no reason why you are attacking in the first place anyway.

I will try to be on for real posting later tonight, although quite frankly I'd prefer a more limited conflict that this sprawling mayhem.
imported_Ilek-Vaad
18-11-2003, 23:19
As I posted yesterday, I am supporting my ally Phyrric. I am not using any 'future tech'. When you think of sub-orbital stealth bomber, think B-1 (those are quite real and exist today.) .Currently the U.S. military also uses GPS satellite for targeting and uses a MOAB (Massive Ordinance Air Burst) bomb.




somewhere in near orbit.......................


"Tollan Fire Control, this is Rainman. Taskforce is at maximum service range. Beginning final approach."-rainman

"Roger that Rainman, target verification being set.Set cruise missles for unassisted descent with assisted target burn."-fire control

"Copy that. Taskforce setting targets, setting ordinance. Awaiting confirmation."-rainman

"Rainman, this is Fire Control, set final targeting. Verification received. Let them have it. My Life for the Republic"-fire control

"Roger that Fire Control. Let them have it. My Life for the Republic."

with that 5 squadrons of Ilek-Vaad's 'Deaths Head' sub-orbital stealth bombers release their payloads of MOAB cruise missles. The targets are all in Unum Veritas. Fire Control is using it's spy satellites to target Unum Veritas' and it's allies auxillary forces (ie forces not at the front, but at any staging areas, areas in reserve.).

The cruise missles have a range of 1500 miles so the bombers are likely 800-900 miles away, at mach speed the cruise missles will reach their targets swiftly, with the MOAB warheads creating miniature mushroom clouds as they strike their targets.

At the same time- 2 BattleGroups of the Naval Guard slip silently in behind Phyrric's navy, covering their rear and flanks form any attacks by hostile naval forces.

OOC: Consider yourself IGNORED, and this is coming from a guy on your side. Future and/or space forces are not allowed in this battle, and you give no reason why you are attacking in the first place anyway.

I will try to be on for real posting later tonight, although quite frankly I'd prefer a more limited conflict that this sprawling mayhem.
Phyrric
18-11-2003, 23:26
As I posted yesterday, I am supporting my ally Phyrric. I am not using any 'future tech'. When you think of sub-orbital stealth bomber, think B-1 (those are quite real and exist today.) .Currently the U.S. military also uses GPS satellite for targeting and uses a MOAB (Massive Ordinance Air Burst) bomb.




somewhere in near orbit.......................


"Tollan Fire Control, this is Rainman. Taskforce is at maximum service range. Beginning final approach."-rainman

"Roger that Rainman, target verification being set.Set cruise missles for unassisted descent with assisted target burn."-fire control

"Copy that. Taskforce setting targets, setting ordinance. Awaiting confirmation."-rainman

"Rainman, this is Fire Control, set final targeting. Verification received. Let them have it. My Life for the Republic"-fire control

"Roger that Fire Control. Let them have it. My Life for the Republic."

with that 5 squadrons of Ilek-Vaad's 'Deaths Head' sub-orbital stealth bombers release their payloads of MOAB cruise missles. The targets are all in Unum Veritas. Fire Control is using it's spy satellites to target Unum Veritas' and it's allies auxillary forces (ie forces not at the front, but at any staging areas, areas in reserve.).

The cruise missles have a range of 1500 miles so the bombers are likely 800-900 miles away, at mach speed the cruise missles will reach their targets swiftly, with the MOAB warheads creating miniature mushroom clouds as they strike their targets.

At the same time- 2 BattleGroups of the Naval Guard slip silently in behind Phyrric's navy, covering their rear and flanks form any attacks by hostile naval forces.

OOC: Consider yourself IGNORED, and this is coming from a guy on your side. Future and/or space forces are not allowed in this battle, and you give no reason why you are attacking in the first place anyway.

I will try to be on for real posting later tonight, although quite frankly I'd prefer a more limited conflict that this sprawling mayhem.

I concur with Ilek-Vaad, I see nothing future about this, hell, even the B2 is capable of a high altitude flight. I do not see a reason to ignore this either, it is not uber, space or future. Maybe just a confusion on what a MOAB is?

I-V was invited by yours truly through the UNAOTO thread as an ally.
18-11-2003, 23:28
OOC:
B-2'S CAN NOT CARRY MOABS, K? ONLY C-130'S CAN CARRY MOABS!
imported_Ilek-Vaad
18-11-2003, 23:30
I will happily answer any questions in detail.
Phyrric
18-11-2003, 23:33
OOC:
B-2'S CAN NOT CARRY MOABS, K? ONLY C-130'S CAN CARRY MOABS!

dude, read more carefully. where does it say that a b2 carries a moab? it does say that a b2 is capable of high altitude flight and a possible clarification on what a moab is. engage mind...then speak, the other way around just makes one look foolish.

anyways, thanks for the confirmation on moab being modern tech :D
Artitsa
18-11-2003, 23:34
Of course you would concur with I-V, Phyrric. You never seem to monitor or care about your allies forces. We at least acknowledge when someone on our side is godmodding or is a future nation and we kick them out. Would you like us to bring them back in for this conflict?
Imminent Deletion
18-11-2003, 23:34
Dark Terror is also declaring itself an enemy of ALL religion, which is referred to as "Opium for the people".Getting your enemies even more angry with you is not usually good for your health.

...or your "allies," for that matter.

Nianacio, believe it or not, I am the nation of Oddballfullness, which spent some time in Armageddon. The position I am in now is what can happen when you make OOC friendships. http://www.sc3000.com/forums/images/face5.GIF

I wonder what Unum Veritas would do if I declared war on Dark terror....http://www.sc3000.com/forums/images/face4.GIF
18-11-2003, 23:35
OOC:
B-2'S CAN NOT CARRY MOABS, K? ONLY C-130'S CAN CARRY MOABS!

dude, read more carefully. where does it say that a b2 carries a moab? it does say that a b2 is capable of high altitude flight and a possible clarification on what a moab is. engage mind...then speak, the other way around just makes one look foolish.

anyways, thanks for the confirmation on moab being modern tech :D
No crap MOAB is modern tech? The Brits used an even bigger bomb in ww2 against german dams!
Phyrric
18-11-2003, 23:37
Of course you would concur with I-V, Phyrric. You never seem to monitor or care about your allies forces. We at least acknowledge when someone on our side is godmodding or is a future nation and we kick them out. Would you like us to bring them back in for this conflict?

I do believe that this was already addressed. Go to page 2 I think it was when I called West Coral Sea on the future tech issue and s/he was an ally. Then there was a playful sarcasm response by WCS and s/he went away. No big deal.
Artitsa
18-11-2003, 23:42
....minutes away from being ignored for this bullshite.

MOAB's are not cruise missles. I-V : "MOAB cruise missles". Wow you sure do look foolish. If you wanna drop the MOAB from high Altitude, go for it, I doubt a SAM would have a hard time picking that off, just from the heat it would generate coming down. Stupidest weapon ever created.
imported_Ilek-Vaad
18-11-2003, 23:55
MOAB-Massive Ordinance Air Burst. Is a term generally applied to any ordinance that is 2 things. Massive and Air Burst. The U.S. air force has co-opted the acronym MOAB for a large bomb dropped by (yes) the C-130.

Traditional MOABs are several hundred pounds of HE that are set to detonate ABOVE the target (thus, the Air Burst), Ilek-Vaad's MOABs are fitted on a tomahawk style cruise missle (2 per bomber) and are precision guided and explode above the target flattening everything for about 2000 yards (much less than the U.S.'s C-130 MOAB).

MOABs create a 'miniature' mushroom cloud because like a nuclear device it is detonated above the target, not at the point of impact, thusly creating nice shockwaves in the air as well as over the ground.

Ilek-Vaad has made the MOAB a bit smaller, placed it on a precision guided missle and uses it for clearing, massive troop formations, above ground bases and clearing forests, etc......... It's just another variation on the theme.
Phyrric
18-11-2003, 23:55
Might be a good idea if DT and EI made another thread on the special ops issue, I would be happy to assist EI on that one, but that is a different story.

ooc: I will be away for some of the night, kids needs to get braces off and retainer on then guests for dinner tonight. I will sneak a post in from time to time and keep up with UV when losses/negotiations can be worked out.


possible summary..........(as I am getting a tad confused myself)

1. I-V, EI and myself are hitting installations on the shore of UV (airstrikes)
2.UV, Skepticism, and I are engaged in a naval confrontation near his shore.
3.behind me is Agrigento and UV second half of fleet in another naval confrontation
4.then behind them in Arribastan and PoA fighting it out in yet another naval confrontation.
5.Edolia fleet is making way to front with myself
6.I-V navy is holding off other Nations from flanking and/or engaging.
7.Several of UV allies are trying to make way forward and/or enroute to the scene. Any enemies have to engage I-V, Land, Pauldustlah and possibly yourself. I do know that Ardor, Artitsa, Gforce, ID and IP are in this somewhere, not exactly sure where. All I know it is in the rear guards somewhere. That is where I get confused myself. This naval war would chain about 800 miles I would guess......
Nianacio
18-11-2003, 23:55
Unum, once I finish nuking the Nianancian fleet, my naval forces will be sent to aid you.Would you like it if I just withdraw it so your naval forces can get through?
I wonder what Unum Veritas would do if I declared war on Dark terror....So do I.
19-11-2003, 00:03
Unum, once I finish nuking the Nianancian fleet, my naval forces will be sent to aid you.Would you like it if I just withdraw it so your naval forces can get through?

Back to Nianancio? Sure. If not, well my coastal defense fleet with its missile boats will stay behind, so your fleet can still die!
Nianacio
19-11-2003, 00:08
Back to Nianancio? Sure. If not, well my coastal defense fleet with its missile boats will stay behind, so your fleet can still die!Not that far. Maybe one thousand kilometers so they're out of missile range?
19-11-2003, 00:09
Back to Nianancio? Sure. If not, well my coastal defense fleet with its missile boats will stay behind, so your fleet can still die!Not that far. Maybe one thousand kilometers so they're out of missile range?
Maybe we coupld pay Nianancio to stay neutral? If not, we CAN handle your fleet.
East Islandia
19-11-2003, 00:09
OOC
well thanx for the offer.
Braces.. oof
Dinner.. yummy
Guests... ehhh hmm.. less for us? :(

Ah yes, u forgot to add seven:
EI is attacking UV with special forces raids (in the defend Agrigento thread) and launching LACMs with conventional munitions against DT (about eighty or so from submarines and mobile launchers in EI)

IC
The Type 98 tanks rushed up a hill on the eastern coast of Agrigento, followed closely by YW530-S APCs, of Chinese manufacture but modified heavily by EI. Soldiers poured out from the holds and quickly began setting up defenses, including barricades and machine gun nests. SPG AA units rolled up the hill and set themselves into position, placing their command radars about a hundred meters away, and set up their wireless information links. They activated all gun and missile systems, and turned on their 3D air search radar, awaiting the arrival of enemy aircraft.

A Ka-60 helicopter and a Z8 brought in some more equipment, including man portable air defence systems, more barricades, and even a pre-fab housing unit for the troops.
Within the hour, long range S300 systems and Anshu SAMs would arrive from the EI headquarters.

*************

Sea Dancer subs aid the AG and PoA fleets, firing at enemy forces with wire-guided torps and SLCMs.

Several Naga class cruisers rush to the scene of Phyrric's battle with enemy forces. J34s launch P800s at the enemy ships from long distance.
19-11-2003, 00:09
Back to Nianancio? Sure. If not, well my coastal defense fleet with its missile boats will stay behind, so your fleet can still die!Not that far. Maybe one thousand kilometers so they're out of missile range?
Maybe we coupld pay Nianancio to stay neutral? If not, we CAN handle your fleet.
Nianacio
19-11-2003, 00:14
Maybe we coupld pay Nianancio to stay neutral? If not, we CAN handle your fleet.I do not think so. Can you handle a few dozen more carrier groups?
19-11-2003, 00:17
Maybe we coupld pay Nianancio to stay neutral? If not, we CAN handle your fleet.I do not think so. Can you handle another seventy-five carrier groups? Certainly, just mass nuclear strike from Cruise Missiles, Tactical Missiles (like far far better scuds), and ICBM's simultaneously! We do have some hypersonic nuclear cruise missiles left (AS-19 Koala and modified Hyperstikres).
Artitsa
19-11-2003, 00:41
Maybe we coupld pay Nianancio to stay neutral? If not, we CAN handle your fleet.I do not think so. Can you handle a few dozen more carrier groups?

ooc: Dark Terror and I can handle your entire navy. I myself have several thousand ICBM's and if it takes my entire nuclear aresenal to leave you without a Navy, then so be it! Then we'll see which of our citizens will be happier ;)

Im currently constructing 4 of my new Carriers. They will pwn you lol.
Nianacio
19-11-2003, 00:47
OOC: Hmmm...maybe I should build one hundred more carriers...
Note: They are small carriers and replace LHAs and LHDs, and I spend most of my military budget on the navy.
19-11-2003, 00:50
OOC: Hmmm...maybe I should build one hundred more carriers...
Note: They are small carriers and replace LHAs and LHDs, and I spend most of my military budget on the navy.
OOC:
Thats good, easy targets.
Eris Kallisti
19-11-2003, 00:52
((OOC: I'm so lost.... :? where is everyone ICly? and what is going on? I can't seem to figure it out right now))
Artitsa
19-11-2003, 00:53
OOC: Hmmm...maybe I should build one hundred more carriers...
Note: They are small carriers and replace LHAs and LHDs, and I spend most of my military budget on the navy.

ooc: And those still won't do anything, because it will be my new "Pacific Wall" that shall defeat you, not my navy.
Nianacio
19-11-2003, 00:59
ooc: And those still won't do anything, because it will be my new "Pacific Wall" that shall defeat you, not my navy.OOC: I don't invade. Never have, and probably never will.
OOC:
Thats good, easy targets.A mass of carriers? Yea. I wouldn't put them all in the same place, though!
Artitsa
19-11-2003, 01:01
ooc: And those still won't do anything, because it will be my new "Pacific Wall" that shall defeat you, not my navy.OOC: I don't invade. Never have, and probably never will.
OOC:
Thats good, easy targets.A mass of carriers? Yea. I wouldn't put them all in the same place, though!

Oh good then... Psst... look here: Defencive Wall! (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=94087&highlight=)
Nianacio
19-11-2003, 01:15
So, DT, do you want me to move my ships 1,000km away from yours?
OOC: Oh good then...Being a libertarian nation, I don't have the military to go around invading people every day.
19-11-2003, 01:15
OOC:
If you never invade, kindly keep your unwanted self neutral!
East Islandia
19-11-2003, 01:19
oh pshh.. wars dont have to center around invasion.
Wait... is DT going to invade AG? or anyone else going to invade anyone else?
19-11-2003, 01:21
OOC:
Im engaging Nianancio's ships right now... so no.
Pissed off Americans
19-11-2003, 01:23
OOC Where is UV!?
East Islandia
19-11-2003, 01:32
(weird music plays)

the EI Forces Command has sent eight Houjian-S4 Class Patrol Boats, armed with advanced Type 400MRS1, Anshu SAMs, and YJ82KS5 cruise missiles to the Imitoran coast. Originally, the boats were to have staged a wargame with Imitoran forces, but now as the conflict continues, their mission profile remains in doubt.

*********************
H9s launch more Type 400MRS1 and P800 cruise missiles at DT from afar, seeking to aid PoA forces.
J37s (an Carrier air Unit, about thirty right now) have arrived near PoA forces, and are seeking DT aircraft to engage and destroy.
Using our newly acquired advanced Exocets and Series ST820B LACMs, missiles are launched at UV and Artitsan forces. Also, more LACMs, longer range ST830Cs, are launched at Artitsa and UV.
19-11-2003, 01:38
OOC:
Uhmm OK, how much forces did you send? Im a bit confused here, anyway the carriers would scramble more fighters and whats in the air already can shred your attack; I'm 20km offshore with the Nianancian fleet to the SOuth, Fluffywuffys flleet to the north, land to the east, and you to the east?
Unum Veritas
19-11-2003, 01:55
You know there was a freakin reason I kept telling you to keep this smaller and more manageable. I do not have the time to keep reading 5 pages in order to make one post. I also do not like all these countries I've never even heard of suddenly attacking me, despite the fact that they were not involved in this conflict. They were called in because Phyrric didn't think his RP skills were up to taking me on one on one. If I weren't one of the central countries in this conflict, I would have no problem with the size, but I simply cannot continue this RP with this much info coming in in my absence because of school, kung fu, hockey, etc...
Artitsa
19-11-2003, 01:59
ooc: just to bring some fun to the thread, as I pretty much am choosing to steer clear of this one.. to confusing. RUGBY FINALS THIS SATURDAY! ENGLAND AND AUSTRALIA! GO LIONS!
Pissed off Americans
19-11-2003, 02:06
Thank you...I can only hope I get a few more friendly countries into this RP

Seems only fair that Phyrric would have allies help also!

Several groups of F-14D's and F/A-35 JSF from the carriers Johnson and Olson form up with the arriving EI wings and expand CAP patrols. E-2's reporting possible inbounds
Unum Veritas
19-11-2003, 02:10
Let's compare my allies to his:

A) mine are all younger
B) most of mine are not actively posting
C) mine are outnumbered by his

Also I don't believe I ever said he can't have any allies, I just said I'd like to see this cut down to a manageable level. But I have a question for all of you: is my typing just really bad or something? Because thus far I've had to repeat myself countless times, had my words twisted, or had words put into my mouth (or keyboard, depending on your preference), and it is becoming rather tiring.
Pissed off Americans
19-11-2003, 02:17
Let's compare my allies to his:

A) mine are all younger
B) most of mine are not actively posting
C) mine are outnumbered by his


A. So
B. Not really good allies then are they
C. Wars are a bitch!
Imminent Deletion
19-11-2003, 02:20
I do know that Ardor, Artitsa, Gforce, ID and IP are in this somewhere, not exactly sure where.

I've turned my navy over to UV, and it's currently still patrolling or in dock. I've also donated seven million troops, but I don't know how any of this can get to him. I set up a complete Patriot missile defense system some years ago, and a system similar to the PHALANX used on carriers is on all major buildings, while the air force is on constant alert. I've been ignored so far.

My units will not obey orders from anyone to attack anything from Nianancio.
Unum Veritas
19-11-2003, 02:38
You realize you just proved my point? I do not have the time to keep track of this war so long as both sides are so large and everything is so crazy. I can try, but I make no promises...

I'm unsure of what attacks have been launched against my forces, and I do not know what losses were posted after my last rather large attacks, so I'll post generic losses.

2 Visby corvettes
1 Perry Class Frigate
10 jets of varying type
Several other ships have been damaged

IC:

Shore batteries have increased bombardment of enemy fleets, and High Command has authorized the use of the below-surface defenses. Underwater sonar nets have been activated, and several mine releases will be used (basically nets on the ocean floor with mines underneath; the nets can be severed, causing the mines to float to the surface).

Thus far only the outer sections of UV carrier groupings have been attacked, because the ASW and AA nets have protected the inner sanctums. Several air battles have ensued, and at all times there is at least one CSA above every battle group, as well as a full squadron of jets. UV submarines have been given full discretion to attack and each sub has begun to operate independently by harassing enemy forces.

The Veritasean government has reached yet another decision. Although the leaders of this country desire that this conflict had never arisen and are deeply disturbed by the rash actions of the "nation" of Phyrric, the time for such regret has passed. The 4 complete CBG's that left the DT conflict have been ordered to authorize their respective arsenal ships (totalling 24 complete vessels) to unload half their payload on key targets within Phyrric [although I've no doubt he has some wonderful SDI system that will stop at least 99% of the inbound missiles]. The arsenal ships pulled forward, fired their payloads off as quickly as possible, then retreated back to the cover of the CBG's, while the groups pulled back out of reach of land-based aircraft. A total of 6,000 cruise missiles were launched, and 2 arsenal ships were sunk, 1 AEGIS destroyer and 1 ASW frigate. Several other ships received damages. Following the news of this attack, the Veritasean government asked Phyrric and that nations allies to please reconsider their actions and withdraw to a pre-war state.


OOC-Sorry for the lack of details regarding my home-based CBG's, but The Two Towers Special Edition was released today and it gets a high priority :wink:


http://www.angelfire.com/music5/drunk_man/banners/banner_Veritas.gif
"I see in your eyes the same fear that would take
the heart of me. There may come a day when
the courage of men fails; when we forsake our
friends and break all bonds of fellowship, but it is
not this day. This day, we fight!”
-the Lord Aragorn, before the final battle for
Veritasean independence
Unum Veritas
19-11-2003, 02:43
I do know that Ardor, Artitsa, Gforce, ID and IP are in this somewhere, not exactly sure where.

I've turned my navy over to UV, and it's currently still patrolling or in dock. I've also donated seven million troops, but I don't know how any of this can get to him. I set up a complete Patriot missile defense system some years ago, and a system similar to the PHALANX used on carriers is on all major buildings, while the air force is on constant alert. I've been ignored so far.

My units will not obey orders from anyone to attack anything from Nianancio.

The High Chancellor wishes to express his regret that you have been drawn into this conflict. This is so muddled that friends must fight against friends and nations that could have once been friends now fight one another to the death. It has been said that the friend of a friend is a friend and the enemy of a friend is an enemy, yet we find ourselves combatting our friends' friends and our enemies' friends. Once again he expresses his hope that Phyrric and the invaders will see the pointlessness of continuing this conflict and will withdraw. Their primary goal of pulling forces away from DT has already been accomplished so continuing this is futile.

The otherside of my country is thus far untouched, so any troops you wish to bring in can be entered from there. Veritasean civilians and government officials have been instructed to give whatever aid is possible to allied forces.
19-11-2003, 02:51
***Encrypted Burst Transmission to Unum Veritas***

Our fleets have arrived at the designated coordinates. No other ships in sight. Please advise where you'd like us to strike.

***End***
Artitsa
19-11-2003, 02:54
--NS makes me angry.--
Unum Veritas
19-11-2003, 02:55
Oops, sorry IP :oops: . Basically just attack whoever you'd like. I'm fighting Phyrric and Skepticism. I believe Artitsa is attacking Agrigento, so any other forces you'd like to engage, please do. If you wish to discuss any definite plans, then Tgram me with an idea.
Artitsa
19-11-2003, 02:56
Thoughts and well wishes go out to Unum Veritas, as well as the massive coalition fleet heading towards her shores to protect that soverign nation from Imperialistic invaders.

In a speech today, President Himmar (new elect) roused the people of Artitsa to new heights. "We must aide those who struggle to remain free from the bonds of slavery by Imperlialistic warmongers! We shall not fall! We shall not go quietly! We shall rise, rise to the heavens, and become gods in our own! Artitsa and her allies are not ones to be pushed around by such indignant nations! We are not weak! As I speak, we are sending more ships to Unum Veritas, the fight against Fluffy Wuffy goes exceedingly well, and our production rates are the highest they've ever been. We cannot lose hope, and neither can the people of Unum Veritas. For as long as we stand behind them, we shall not let them stumble and fall, they shall live on!"
Unum Veritas
19-11-2003, 02:59
The High Chancellor thanks the leaders and people of Artitsa (from a secure location, of course) for their continued support, and wishes to pledge future Veritasean support to the people of Artitsa, should the need ever arise.
Unum Veritas
19-11-2003, 03:00
OOC-I must thank Phyrric for one thing...he's definitely helped to get my post count up 8)
19-11-2003, 03:08
OOC:
UV, list of forces being sent to aid you by various countries, for you to command (enjoy!). The forces from Ardor were posted a wihle ago (on sunday) so they have arrived, the rest can fight their way through.:

From GDU:
- 30 Oscar 3 class SSN’s (from me)

5 Rommel class Battleships
10 Seydlitz class Cruisers
10 Clauswitz class Frigates
10 Manstein class Destroyer (from The Macabees)

-8 Kilo SSK’s, the Indian version with SS_N-27 SSM’s
2 CBG’s (from zossen)

They are all sailing together, also they are sailing with Ardor’s fleet

From geforce4:
- 70 Iskra fast attack frigates
25 Vodopad Heavy Missile Cruisers and 20 light carrier battle groups to aid Unum Veritas.


From Ardor:
3 fleets, each containing
4x Nimitz class aircraft carrier
1x Red Dragon class Super carrier
10x WASP landing ships
26x Oliver Perry Class Frigates
22x KIDD class Destroyers
15x Ticonderoga class Cruisers
13x Aleigh Burke Class Destroyers
3x Missouri class battle ships
11x Seawolf class Fast attack subs
5x Los Angeles class subs
7x Ohio class subs
14x Viginia class subs
45x Supply ships
Unum Veritas
19-11-2003, 03:15
Secret OOC-Yes, those forces are massing on the diagonal side of my nation. Once they are all together, they will be used (allowing another 15-30 RL minutes before they are grouped).
19-11-2003, 03:18
Secret OOC-Yes, those forces are massing on the diagonal side of my nation. Once they are all together, they will be used (allowing another 15-30 RL minutes before they are grouped).
OOC:
Oh, thats good. Be back tommorow morning and possibly in 30 minutes.
Unum Veritas
19-11-2003, 03:22
Alrighty, 'night
Phyrric
19-11-2003, 03:25
DT, you know better than that, if a Nation does not post itself, it does not participate, simple. You cannot obligate forces from another country.

I am not going to sign on again for the rest of the night. It appears that UV and his allies that promote and endorse slavery/genocide cannot accept a beating when handed to them.

That force used some serious ass stealth to get to my shores, past 12 carrier fleets, yes, a massive SDI system as posted earlier in the thread as seen by Artitsa (DT loves a nuke fest when he runs out of options, the reason mine was established a long time ago, shortly after Bisons became a crator at the hands of Walten, search threads for details)

I am off to my company.

PS, when are you going to post more realistic loses UV? All the BBG's, subs and the carrier escorts less FFG's forced a confrontation with your fleet that was directly infront of myself, and all that was lost was a handful of planes and a ship or two? and you complain about me? 16" do far more damage than that. The allies are posted on page 1 as I stated earlier and a recap of what is going on a page or two back. You are being attacked by PHYRRIC (navy), SKEPTICISM (navy), EI (air attacks on your shores), I-V later to arrive (bombing raids on your shores) and AGRIGENTO (navy), we were first on scene and blasting you. More reading means more RP, less complaining about what you started means more RP. The other allies are fending off your friends and have not touched you. They are keeping your allies away from myself, agrigento and skepticim fleet.

Thank you
Unum Veritas
19-11-2003, 03:34
If you do not cease your idiotic statements such as "what you started" this is going to end up in an ignore fest. I never said my ships got to your shores, they just got within range (which for cruise missiles can be somewhat far off). DT was just reminding me of what other nations had already posted. I do not have the time to read so many pages of stuff, so I can't accurately post my losses (as I already stated). What is it with you and needing things repeated? I said when I posted my losses that I didn't have time to read every attack against me, so I would just generic ones (which could obviously be edited at a later date). Also, your "first on scene" forces magically appeared off my coasts, assuming that I had no defenses and not giving me a chance to make any posts blocking your incoming ships (which is against common RP rules). Also, the back portion of my nation is still open and forces are coming in from there. You can expect all the forces that nations contributed to me to be used in a little while, as well as at least two other nations' (unfortunately you don't know this IC). Now I have asked repeatedly that you quit wasting both of our time, since you've already achieved your goal of withdrawing help from DT (even though its not doing any good and DT will still win), now why don't you just let this die and we can both return to a pre-war status?
Pissed off Americans
19-11-2003, 03:56
The aircraft then returned to their respective carriers.

"Reagan, Spade Flight inbound to target!"
"SpadeOne Reagan copies, Sierra Hotel!"

The Strike packages launched from the 6 carriers began to arrive over the UV fleet. Catching the UV carriers in a re-arm/re-fuel was an absolute dream!

Strike Packages:
Reagan
12 F-14D Strike CAP
18 F/A-18 (2 Harpoon each)
20 F/A-35 JSF (10 w/ 2 each HARM Anti-radar 10 w/ 2 each Maverick GM)
2 E/A-6B Prowler (Electronic Warfare)

Bush
12 F-14D Strike CAP
20 F/A-18 (2 Harpoon each)
16 F/A-35 JSF (10 w/ 2 each HARM 6 w/ 2 each Maverick)
2 E/A-6B Prowler (EW)

Horne
16 F-14D Strike CAP
30 F/A-18 (2 Harpoon each)
8 E/A-6B Prowler (EW)

Stubbs
20 F-14D Strike CAP
10 F/A-18 (2 Harpoon each)
4 E/A-6B Prowler (EW)

Powell
16 F-14 Strike CAP
18 F/A-18 (2 Harpoon each)
10 F/A-35 JSF (2 HARM each)
2 E/A-6B Prowler (EW)

Marino
18 F-14D Strike CAP
20 F/A-18 (2 Harpoon each)
5 F/A-35 JSF (2 HARM each)
3 E/A-6B Prowler (EW)

Combat Loses
15 F-14 (6 Air to Air 3 Mechanical 6 SAM)
28 F/A-18 (8 SAM prior to weapons release, 10 SAM 1 Mechanical 9 Air to Air)
18 F/A-35 JSF (3 prior to weapons release, 15 SAM)
5 E/A-6B (3 Air to Air 2 SAM)

UV post losses please!

216 Harpoons 64 HARM 32 Mavericks

Let me help you with catching up. These are attacking your forces which were attacking Agrigento. also (see next post)
Pissed off Americans
19-11-2003, 03:58
USS New Mexico (SSN Seawolf) "CON SONAR CONTACT BEARING TWO FOUR ZERO!

"SONAR CON, DO WE HAVE AN ID ON THE CONTACT?"

"CON SONAR, SHE IS MAKING NOISE LIKE A NIMITZ CLASS CARRIER!"

TORPEDO ROOM CON, OPEN OUTTER DOORS!

The skipper always had an uneasy feeling when opening the torperdo outter door. The transient noises they made had a tendency to alert the wrong people that something was not right.

"CON SONAR MATCH BERARINGS, TORPEDO ROOM SET FOR ACTIVE PING CUT WIRES AND FIRE ON MY MARK!"

"MARK"

The noise and the shutter of the compressed air forcing the 8 MK48 ADCAP's from thier tubes brought everyone to attention. This time it was for real. This action was taking place between all 12 Seawolf's in thier hunter-killer package.

OOC UV you now have 52 MK48 ADCAP Torpedos and 44 Harpoon's heading toward your fleet attacking Arigento!

Also please post for these losses also.
East Islandia
19-11-2003, 04:17
goodnite.. tmrw we will continue
Phyrric
19-11-2003, 05:01
If you do not cease your idiotic statements such as "what you started" this is going to end up in an ignore fest. I never said my ships got to your shores, they just got within range (which for cruise missiles can be somewhat far off). DT was just reminding me of what other nations had already posted. I do not have the time to read so many pages of stuff, so I can't accurately post my losses (as I already stated). What is it with you and needing things repeated? I said when I posted my losses that I didn't have time to read every attack against me, so I would just generic ones (which could obviously be edited at a later date). Also, your "first on scene" forces magically appeared off my coasts, assuming that I had no defenses and not giving me a chance to make any posts blocking your incoming ships (which is against common RP rules). Also, the back portion of my nation is still open and forces are coming in from there. You can expect all the forces that nations contributed to me to be used in a little while, as well as at least two other nations' (unfortunately you don't know this IC). Now I have asked repeatedly that you quit wasting both of our time, since you've already achieved your goal of withdrawing help from DT (even though its not doing any good and DT will still win), now why don't you just let this die and we can both return to a pre-war status?

It is clear that DT allies are just as bad as DT himself in the end. Just as nieve as he and just as terrible at how things are. Birds of the feather truly do flock together.

I POSTED IN THE SO BE IT WAR THREAD THAT I WAS MOBILIZING! YOU ARE THE TARGET AS SKEPTICISM AND AGRIGENTO HAD NOTICED AND FOLLOWED ME!

They paid attention, why can't you?

Why is that so hard for you to understand? Even Niancio and others have to tell you over and over and over again and has repeated this to you and who repeats what to who? My God, get a clue kid. There is some confusion, but damn, take the time to read! It does not take that long to do, really, I promise. But if you had read anything at all, you might know just a little, just a tiny bit on what is happening and why.

I am willing to bet that you never even read Fluffywuffy's opening paragraph on why he was attacking DT and you just 'came a runnin' to his aid without any prior knowledge.

"Phyrric stands in front of the palace, snaps his fingers and all the forces appear in their home ports. All loses were ressurected as if nothing had ever happened and announced, 'from this day forward, Unum Veritas is permanently on Phyrric's IGNORE list.'"

Be proud, you are the second one to ever have appeared on my ignore list and first to be permanent and you made it before Dark Terror ever did.
19-11-2003, 05:05
In the middle of the night, slipping through a realtively lightly patrolled area of UV waters was a lone special ops sub. It moved at 2 knots, barely enough to keep it moving foward but too soft to pick up on any sonar being used to try to detect it. Slowly surfacing, a few forms were seen on the surface climbing into a small rubber boat. Rowing towards shore, they quickly moved out to the capitol of UV, racing to meet up with the High Chancellor. With them they carried a single plan of the Empire Plan of Attack, for the Chancellor's review. It also contained a list of assests to be relieved and made available for the defense of UV. Moving to the coordinates recieved in advance, the team sent out an encrypted transmission to the Veritisian government, letting them know their visitors had arrived.



A long way from shore, Adm. Gregory Comm stood on the bridge, as the Battle Fleets waited for the signal for them to commence their attacks on UV's enemies, the one's that wanted to enslave UV for his attempt to help an ally. Clearly, these other nations didn't have any honor by attacking UV, for they should know that every nation has allies that would help it in time of need. UV was only fulfilling his part of the deal. Pity now, thought the adm., that we'd have to help destroy these nations navies. Oh well, might as well get some scouts up to make sure we know where our enemies are. He ordered the scouting craft into the air, along with the standard CAP for the carriers. It shouldn't be long now, till we engage them. Then we'll see who comes out the winner.
19-11-2003, 21:39
OOC:
All of those forces were posted, and buried in the thread. Though if you ignore us, I doubt anyone will cry.
Arribastan
19-11-2003, 22:44
edited :roll:
19-11-2003, 22:45
OOC:
If you want to find the posts, go do an egosearch. Im too lazy to, quite frankly.
IC:
Peace Proposal From Dark Terror:
In exchange for an immediate end to all hostilities relating to these crusader wars, Dark Terror will be willing to give its catholics the privelege of being bought by other well meaning nations, as has been done with homosexuals, and in a somewhat similar fashion, socialists. Dark Terror will agree to sell its current 482 catholics (It should be noted that the crusaders have already probably killed an amount of civilians several times that, and Fluffywuffy will lose tens of thousands of troops) to the opposing bandits for $1,000 a head. Dark Terror will not pay for their transportation. If further catholics are found in Dark Terror, they can be taken by the bandits; however no food or shelter for them will be payed for by Dark Terror, and their assets in Dark Terror will be siezed. Of course, these bandits have a long history dating back to mass slaughters in the crusades when christianty was outlawed.
Unum Veritas
19-11-2003, 22:47
I predicted from the beginning that this would wind up in an ignore fest, from the time I read that in the first post his forces were already in my waters. You see, Phyrric, you RPed forces being mobilized, but you never said where they were going, so how could anyone RP with that? How can I defend my own waters if you don't post that they are on their way to my country? You just said that forces were being mobilized, and then they were suddenly in my waters. If I'm a bad RPer, then it is a direct result of the horrible "RP" (and I use that term lightly) situation. So, is this conflict over now that Phyrric has withdrawn? I have no quarrel with any other nations involved and am more than willing to end this and save myself (and everyone else) time.
Unum Veritas
19-11-2003, 22:50
OOC:
If you want to find the posts, go do an egosearch. Im too lazy to, quite frankly.
IC:
Peace Proposal From Dark Terror:
In exchange for an immediate end to all hostilities relating to these crusader wars, Dark Terror will be willing to give its catholics the privelege of being bought by other well meaning nations, as has been done with homosexuals, and in a somewhat similar fashion, socialists. Dark Terror will agree to sell its current 482 catholics (It should be noted that the crusaders have already probably killed an amount of civilians several times that, and Fluffywuffy will lose tens of thousands of troops) to the opposing bandits for $1,000 a head. Dark Terror will not pay for their transportation. If further catholics are found in Dark Terror, they can be taken by the bandits; however no food or shelter for them will be payed for by Dark Terror, and their assets in Dark Terror will be siezed.

To add to this proposal, Unum Veritas itself will purchase the catholics, and guarantee them their freedom to practice their religion as they will.
Unum Veritas
19-11-2003, 22:50
OOC:
If you want to find the posts, go do an egosearch. Im too lazy to, quite frankly.
IC:
Peace Proposal From Dark Terror:
In exchange for an immediate end to all hostilities relating to these crusader wars, Dark Terror will be willing to give its catholics the privelege of being bought by other well meaning nations, as has been done with homosexuals, and in a somewhat similar fashion, socialists. Dark Terror will agree to sell its current 482 catholics (It should be noted that the crusaders have already probably killed an amount of civilians several times that, and Fluffywuffy will lose tens of thousands of troops) to the opposing bandits for $1,000 a head. Dark Terror will not pay for their transportation. If further catholics are found in Dark Terror, they can be taken by the bandits; however no food or shelter for them will be payed for by Dark Terror, and their assets in Dark Terror will be siezed.

To add to this proposal, Unum Veritas itself will purchase the catholics, and guarantee them their freedom to practice their religion as they will.
Artitsa
19-11-2003, 22:51
We have bought the Catholics at 2000 a head. APCs are being sent to pick them up, and housing is being set up for them.
19-11-2003, 22:52
After interest was shown by both Artitsa (OOC: On AIM) and Unum Veritas in acquiring the small amount of catholics, Dark Terror has announced that while the situation in UV is "tricky", the catholics will be deported to Artitsa, which also guaranteed them freedom.
Unum Veritas
19-11-2003, 22:52
OOC-So are you taking them, or am I?
Artitsa
19-11-2003, 22:53
We'll hold a survey. Those that wish to travel to UV, can go. You don't need to pay for them. We'll also ship em there.
19-11-2003, 22:57
UV is still blockaded by Agrigento, EI, Skepticism, and uhh a list of other names too long to remember. Which is why theyre going to Artitsa, for now.
Imminent Deletion
20-11-2003, 01:23
I do know that Ardor, Artitsa, Gforce, ID and IP are in this somewhere, not exactly sure where.

I've turned my navy over to UV, and it's currently still patrolling or in dock. I've also donated seven million troops, but I don't know how any of this can get to him. I set up a complete Patriot missile defense system some years ago, and a system similar to the PHALANX used on carriers is on all major buildings, while the air force is on constant alert. I've been ignored so far.

My units will not obey orders from anyone to attack anything from Nianancio.

The High Chancellor wishes to express his regret that you have been drawn into this conflict. This is so muddled that friends must fight against friends and nations that could have once been friends now fight one another to the death. It has been said that the friend of a friend is a friend and the enemy of a friend is an enemy, yet we find ourselves combatting our friends' friends and our enemies' friends. Once again he expresses his hope that Phyrric and the invaders will see the pointlessness of continuing this conflict and will withdraw. Their primary goal of pulling forces away from DT has already been accomplished so continuing this is futile.

The otherside of my country is thus far untouched, so any troops you wish to bring in can be entered from there. Veritasean civilians and government officials have been instructed to give whatever aid is possible to allied forces.

Thank you. I will never question your requests for help again.

This is my Air Force. Mention of carriers means my 9 Unum Veritas Hovercraft Aircraft Carriers, and units said to be on carriers or other vessels are under the control of Unum Veritas along with the rest of the navy. I might do something once I read the last two pages....http://www.sc3000.com/forums/images/face4.GIF

1x A-10
67x A-10L (Variant featuring Deletionite weapons and shielding)
512x A/V-36 Peregrine
320x A/V-45 Wasp
97x AC/V-12 Gunship Pegasus
33x AC-130U Spooky
5x AC-150 Tanker
77x Alpha Fighter Jet
500x Archangel (from 3 to 17 per carrier)
2x B-52
7x B-96 Harbinger
7x C-5 Galaxy Transports (these were Improved with carbon composites to resolve stress issues)
120x C/V-12 Pegasus
42x C-84 Atlas
42x Consolidated PB2Y Coronado
453x Conventional Land-Attack BMG-109 Tomahawk Cruise Missile (on various vessels capable of deploying them)
453x Conventional Ship-Attack BMG-109 Tomahawk Cruise Missile (as above)
57x CRDA (CANT) Z.506B Airone
37x E-767 AWACS (three on carriers)
6x EC-2 Hawkeye (on various carriers)
21x F-14 Tomcat (two per carrier)
127x F-14E Ultra Tomcat (eight per carrier)
27x F/A-18 Super Hornet (three per carrier)
1x F-20
6x F-22
580x F-22 Sea Raptor (21 per carrier; others are perfectly capable of land-based operations)
257x F-23 Black Widow II
472x F-23W Sea Spider (42 per carrier)
32x F-117 Nighthawk
50x Gun Snake
4x H-1N Firestorm Helicopter
77x Heinkel He 115
154x HH-65A Dolphin
2x Jovian Lightning Strike Fighters (IGNORED)
77x KC-82 Supertanker
67x Martin PBM-5 Mariner
577x Massive Ordnance Air Blast/Burst Bomb (MOAB - Actually serving as impressive lawn decorations at the moment)
40x Mesquetor Fighter Jets
3x Mi-24VP
1x Mi-24R
3x Mi-24M
2x Mi-24PS
3x Mi-24E (Trollshaw investigations....)
130x Mi-28
117x MiG-35/1.42 MFI
77x Mirage 2000
2x Orbital Weapons Deployment Platform (IGNORED)
139x RAH-66 Comanche Stealth Helicopter
3x S-3 Viking
19x Sea King ASW Helicopter (on various ships)
1x Sea King VIP Helicopter
2x Sea Stallion (on carriers IDS Redemption and IDS Phytonadione)
24x SS-22-N(F) Sunburn Cruise Missiles
1000x Stealth Conventional Missile
77x Su-34 Bomber
11x Su-37M
7x Su-37K
13x Su-37E
6x Su-37EK
1x Star Strife (IGNORED)
128x Su-47 Berkut
17x Supersonic Bomber
7x Supersonic VIP Transport
100x TIE Fighters (IGNORED)
77x Triton 66
67x Tu-22M3 Long-Range Supersonic Bomber
10x UH-60L Black Hawk Helicopter
2x V-22 Osprey (on carriers IDS Redemption and IDS Phytonadione)
77x Valhallas emporium merlin choppers
49x Yak 141 VTOL Fighter-Bomber
214x X-29 (2-23 per carrier, others at land bases)
50x X-36
67x Zig-21V Naval Autogyro (seven per carrier)
127x Zig-21R Autogyro
42x Zig-27 Massive Transport & Rescue Autogyro (one per carrier, others at land bases)

I think I've forgotten what several of those units actually are since I bought them, so they won't be used. Here is other miscellaneous stuff....

7x Covert Sea-Floor Crawler
2x EM-90 MANATEE Strategic Sealift Ship
340x Fast Attack Hover Patrol Boat (curently defending my shores)
11x Hovercraft Deep Sea Transport
3x Howl Class Nuclear Powered Guided Missile Cruiser (I might have mentioned these before - if so, ignore this entry.)
19x Naiad Assault Landing Hovercraft
84x PE-6 Manta
916x Unum Veritas Hovercraft transport
80 million pineapples
50,000x Sub-Sea DART Ammo
2000x Sub-Sea DART Launcher
5x TROUSzoid Submarine
26x Wasp Class Amphibious Assault Ship
And a pile of Special Operations stuff that I don't know what to do with! http://www.sc3000.com/forums/images/face5.GIF
Unum Veritas
20-11-2003, 01:31
Not blockaded, they are all on the front side of my country. The back is still clear. All the forces placed under my control by other nations have grouped up and are now sweeping around the Western side of the country, prepared to make a hammer to my other forces' anvil by catching the enemy forces between the two. The 8 CBG's have moved to the Eastern side of UV, allowing any forces that wish to withdraw without fear of counterattack. However, if the invaders do not take advantage of this, the fight will rage on, and the enemy forces will be engaged without mercy. The Veritasean government wishes to reiterate that they have no quarrel with any nation other than Phyrric (which has now withdrawn), and will not hold any nations' actions against UV against the said nation.

DT, alright, I was just trying to make a statement to the other nations. Artitsa, under normal circumstances I would offer your transports heavy escorts, however I have none to spare. The thoughts and prayers of Unum Veritas go with you.
Unum Veritas
20-11-2003, 01:37
IP- 80 million pineapples? LoL. We thank you for your support, although it will hopefully not be needed. The UV government has no desire to see this conflict continued.
20-11-2003, 01:39
Hey Its Scotland!
20-11-2003, 01:40
The 30 Oscar 3 SSN's are about all the help can send you, but they have a total of 720 Yakhont-4 low RCS SSM's.
Unum Veritas
20-11-2003, 01:43
Hey Its Scotland!

LoL, yeah, but I withdrew from that RP because of time constraints (and a lack of knowledge on my part :oops: )
20-11-2003, 01:45
Dont worry, Setesh turned into a total Fascist and deleted every post on his forum that attacked his country or made another country better then his.
20-11-2003, 01:45
Dont worry, Setesh turned into a total Fascist and deleted every post on his forum that attacked his country or made another country better then his.
Unum Veritas
20-11-2003, 01:52
How did he delete the posts? I thought you had to be a mod to delete others' posts.
20-11-2003, 01:54
he made his own forum
Unum Veritas
20-11-2003, 02:00
Oh, not on the NS forums, then?
imported_Skepticism
20-11-2003, 03:19
Admiral Pertand sighed in relief as all the myriad fleets began to disengage and peel off, heading back to their respective countries. All in all, his forces had given a good -- hell, a great -- accounting of themselves, suffering only moderate damage to a limited number of ships, and losing a bare handful of planes. And they had inflicted a fair bit of harm upon the opponent, even driving an entire enemy fleet from the engagement -- a first for USSS Navy history!

Nonetheless, the cessation of hostilities pleased him. Sooner or later, with hundreds of ships pouring in from everywhere, his forces would have been overwhelmed, no matter how valiant. They would have given a fine accounting of themselves, no doubt, but dead is dead. They had managed to give a field test to many new concepts, actually see the fleet effective in action, and he already had some ideas for the next battle, whenever it came around. Not to forget that, in the end, DT did give in, at least on principle. He'd take it, though. And, as the USSS fleet sailed back east toward's Skepticism's harbors, Pertand felt certain the fleet would see action again, all too soon, and hoped that they would be as successful then as they had now.

OOC: Sorry I was not nearly so active at the end, but I think we had a pretty dang good stretch for a while there. I look forward to RP'ing with most of you again, given the chance, though perhaps not in such a dire situation ;)

I would definately like to do some sort of naval war exercise with you sometime not too far from now Unum Veritas, if you have any interest in that sort of thing. Much more potential in this sort of battle than a land slog for interresting stuff to happen!
Agrigento
20-11-2003, 04:05
ooc: Okay, so this is going to hell.... :roll:
Unum Veritas
20-11-2003, 04:05
Admiral Pertand sighed in relief as all the myriad fleets began to disengage and peel off, heading back to their respective countries. All in all, his forces had given a good -- hell, a great -- accounting of themselves, suffering only moderate damage to a limited number of ships, and losing a bare handful of planes. And they had inflicted a fair bit of harm upon the opponent, even driving an entire enemy fleet from the engagement -- a first for USSS Navy history!

Nonetheless, the cessation of hostilities pleased him. Sooner or later, with hundreds of ships pouring in from everywhere, his forces would have been overwhelmed, no matter how valiant. They would have given a fine accounting of themselves, no doubt, but dead is dead. They had managed to give a field test to many new concepts, actually see the fleet effective in action, and he already had some ideas for the next battle, whenever it came around. Not to forget that, in the end, DT did give in, at least on principle. He'd take it, though. And, as the USSS fleet sailed back east toward's Skepticism's harbors, Pertand felt certain the fleet would see action again, all too soon, and hoped that they would be as successful then as they had now.

OOC: Sorry I was not nearly so active at the end, but I think we had a pretty dang good stretch for a while there. I look forward to RP'ing with most of you again, given the chance, though perhaps not in such a dire situation ;)

I would definately like to do some sort of naval war exercise with you sometime not too far from now Unum Veritas, if you have any interest in that sort of thing. Much more potential in this sort of battle than a land slog for interresting stuff to happen!

We shall most certainly run an excercise together soon. Of all my enemies, you were the one that commanded the most respect, and I would be honored to RP with you again in the future (hopefully on the same side next time).
20-11-2003, 21:11
OOC:
People on the other side I respect:
Fluffywuffy
Nianancio
Skepticism
IC:
With 100 fast attack craft from Fluffywuffy sunk by submarines and air attack, and 20 Nianancian carriers on the bottom from the first volley of about 300 Yakhont-4 low RCS ASM's, and Fluffywuffy ground troops being overwhelmed by brute force, the war was going quite well for Dark Terror. As the forces attacking Dark Terror dwindled, it was hoped that the Bisonic Fleet would soon be able to aid Unum Veritas.
Artitsa
20-11-2003, 21:28
ooc: I also respect those on that list. Especially for their good RPing abilities, and not being a total dick while doing it.
Arribastan
20-11-2003, 21:39
OOC:have to agree with DT there. some good rping. add PoA. that was good submarine rping. I have immense respect for those four nations now.
Unum Veritas
20-11-2003, 23:16
OOC:have to agree with DT there. some good rping. add PoA. that was good submarine rping. I have immense respect for those four nations now.

I second that.
Imminent Deletion
21-11-2003, 00:53
Okay, it turns out that the attacks I though were being made on units nearby were actually made on units at some other nation.

So....

I suppose we'll just wait for anyone who hasn't decided to ignore us to repost any attacks we may have missed. If they don't say anything, we can assume they all left. http://www.sc3000.com/forums/images/face5.GIF

Should the conflict resume, the following number of forces (out of at least two shifts of planes and pilots) can scramble from Hayes AFB (yes, it's a large base) to any point around Unum Veritas at any time, with the exception of the X-29s, which have a range of only 300 miles. All are armed with generic defensive missiles, in addition to whatever is noted.

84x F-23 Black Widow II, each with two Deletionite Firebird missiles, which are themselves somewhat stealthy and have a range of 107 miles, but sacrifice some of the planes' stealth because they are too big to carry internally. A single Firebird costs $3.2 million.
100x F-23W Sea Spider
140x Archangel, carrying various smart bombs.
120x F-22 Sea Raptor, some carrying Firebird missiles.
84x X-29
Unum Veritas
21-11-2003, 01:01
I believe that the other nations have decided to pull out, because they realized they have no further reason to fight. Forces were pulled away from DT's aid, and that was their primary goal. However, Veritasean forces shall remain at an increased state of alert; any aggressive moves by an enemies' forces will be seen as a further act of war, and our units will respond accordingly. Other than that, the forces of our former foes will be allowed to leave Veritasean waters without further incident.
Agrigento
21-11-2003, 02:13
I believe that the other nations have decided to pull out, because they realized they have no further reason to fight. Forces were pulled away from DT's aid, and that was their primary goal. However, Veritasean forces shall remain at an increased state of alert; any aggressive moves by an enemies' forces will be seen as a further act of war, and our units will respond accordingly. Other than that, the forces of our former foes will be allowed to leave Veritasean waters without further incident.

With the current resolutions being decided upon the 1st Fleet has returned to international waters and is preparing to sail home. Losses have been, slightly more than nominal, and we shall be holding a ceremony at San Biagio Cathedral, the arch diocese for the Agrigentian Catholic church in honor of all who fought and died, including those from our enemies. Current diplomatic relations with the former foes remain icy to say the least, but ramification of those positions will indeed take time.

ooc: I am dissappointed at myself for not making that list of respected enemies....sorry I sucked so much. :(
Unum Veritas
21-11-2003, 02:16
You didn't suck at all. For my part, I did not have the chance of directly RPing with you very much. In fact, I look forward to RPing with you in the future. Also, the Veritasean government would like to ask if it is alright if a representative of the Unum Veritas government be allowed to attend your service.
Agrigento
21-11-2003, 02:25
Indeed, we welcome them to the service. We thank you for your willingness to resolve the problem, and your attempts to do so peacefully. Your attempts at avoidance of war, and acceptence of the Catholics are truly admirable. This goes for Artitsa's resolve in this matter as well.
______________________

Rudolfo Turtello
Diplomatic Attache
Currently with the 1st Fleet
Artitsa
21-11-2003, 02:30
Would you mind if we sent some people as well? Theres rumours the Artitsan President may attend himself.
Unum Veritas
21-11-2003, 02:35
Why don't we set up a thread for this?
Agrigento
21-11-2003, 02:35
Would you mind if we sent some people as well? Theres rumours the Artitsan President may attend himself.

Of course you may. However we must warn you that our homeland is currently underattack, and enemy force, albeit a small one and easily manageable at that, has engaged in Maritime warfare with us (I think over this war in fact).
Unum Veritas
21-11-2003, 02:37
If it is more convenient, it can be held in my country (considering we are all already there...).
Agrigento
21-11-2003, 02:38
edit: in light of the following post.
Agrigento
21-11-2003, 02:39
If it is more convenient, it can be held in my country (considering we are all already there...).

ooc: Eh, sounds like a good idea. In that case, you can start it up :P
Artitsa
21-11-2003, 02:41
having it in UV would be wise. There is naval battles in my waters as well *shakes fist at fluffy wuffy*
Imminent Deletion
21-11-2003, 02:43
Your attempts at avoidance of war, and acceptence of the Catholics are truly admirable. This goes for Artitsa's resolve in this matter as well.

Yes, I'd have offered freedom for them also, but I wasn't active enough to post in time. http://www.sc3000.com/forums/images/face3.GIF

My forces haven't actually done anything, so if any of the victims' families will accept financial aid from my nation, I'll send it. http://www.sc3000.com/forums/images/face1.GIF

EDIT: If it's in UV, my ambassadors there can attend, but I won't be able to RP in the thread.
Unum Veritas
21-11-2003, 02:53
Okay, the thread is started, its under the name "candlelight vigil"
21-11-2003, 02:54
We dont care who gets the catholics so long as we get out money! We were rather surprised when no one asked to buy them, since homoseuxlas and socialists were quickly sold off. So we offered to sell them more directly.
The Macabees
21-11-2003, 06:44
***Secret Transmission to the allies of Dark Terror and UV***

Please rondevouz with Fleet Trafalgar off the coast of Artitsa. There will be 10 Rommel class Battleships and 5 Nimitz Aircraft Carriers, constructed recently (over the past 6 months).

Please provide your own crews. These ships are lended out for your use until the end of the war..if they still exist.


***end***
21-11-2003, 20:49
Wars over in UV, but send them to Bisonic waters to fight off Nianancio and Fluffywuffy (and their nov 2003 allies).
23-11-2003, 05:36
Unum, dont listen to Anarch, hes got a grudge and ill post what i said to him before, hoping that there more chance hell read and stop posting that im doing that...

Firstly>

If i was that bad a Admin, how come ive got 33 players?

Secondly>

Ive never used my mod powers for advantage in the game... If i had players would have left.

Thirdly>

Ive kicked only one member, and your probably him, and as any of the players will tell you, its because you were being a jerk and making the game miserable for a player just because he hadnt played this type of RP before.

Fourthly>

Your just making yourself look immature going around trying to stain my name like this....