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Phyrric at war with Unum Veritas (So be it spinoff)

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Phyrric
16-11-2003, 20:15
Allies:
Phyrric
Agrigento
Skepticism
Pissed off Americans
East Islandia
Edolia (under Phyrric command as stated)
Eris Kallisti
Pauldustlah
Ilek-Vaad
Largeheadlandiaburg

Defenders:
Unum Veritas
Swirrhirr
Clanicka
Isolationist People
Ardor (under UV command as stated)
Dark terror
Artitsa
Gforce4
Arribastan
United Elias
Imminent Deletion
Zossen


more to follow I am sure once Japann and Dark Terror conflicts subside



At 0900 hours, the Senate of Phyrric has ratified the Declaration of War as the forces of Phyrric have arrived at the designated staging areas against the Nation of Unum Veritas for the hostilities and support of Dark Terror.

"Why is there no resistance sir? I thought we were going to have a fight on our hands?"

"This is the opportunity to knock Unum Veritas out of the war and force a suit for peace. There forces are too busy in the waters of Dark Terror. Launch the attack!."

OOC: for validation of UV fleet see here: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=91580&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=40

As the CVN's turn into the wind, the airwings of each carrier begin to lift off the flight decks with great anticipation of a fantastic victory. The doors of the CGN's open up as missiles come raging out of their bays, lock is on, targets are verified and traced. The BBG's raise their mighty 16" guns, the fire controller has excellent sighting on this clear blue day.

"We are going to get to see fireworks in the daylight chief?" asks a new recruit that enlisted just 5 months ago. "Yes we will, this is going to be a fantastic sight." responds the aging chief.

The Carrier Battle Groups 7, 9, 12, 13, 14, 15, 20, 21 have all started their attack runs on key targets within Unum Veritas. Amphibious Groups 2, 5, 6, 8, 10 will be making a beach run once the shore is secured through air superiority. They are targeting only government and military establishments.

Each Carrier Group consists of:

1 CVN
1 BBG
4 CGN
4 DDG
6 FFG
4 SSN
2 SSBN
8 Aux (AE, AO, AOE, etc)

Each Amphibious Group consists of:

1 LHA
1 LHD
1 LCC
3 DDG
6 FFG
3 LPH
6 LSD
9 LST
2 SSN

ooc: There is no doubt that you would have picked this fleet up on satellite, but with your forces at DT, what are you/could you do about it? Defend yourself, Phyrric plays no games.
Phyrric
16-11-2003, 20:18
ooc: I will be off for a few hours, today is gameday and football and beer calls.
Johnistan
16-11-2003, 20:20
Stand down Phyrric.
Swirrhirr
16-11-2003, 20:26
Why attack Unum Veritas? If I am correct, the name means "One Truth" or "Many Truths" or something equally close to that. So, if you attack them, I will definately Unum Veritas, and I will ask for the help of at least 8 or 9 other nations to hgelp me, and other nations we will also ask for their allies to help. So I suggest you do back down. Have a nice day, and may destruction visit this day.
Phyrric
16-11-2003, 22:29
Why attack Unum Veritas? If I am correct, the name means "One Truth" or "Many Truths" or something equally close to that. So, if you attack them, I will definately Unum Veritas, and I will ask for the help of at least 8 or 9 other nations to hgelp me, and other nations we will also ask for their allies to help. So I suggest you do back down. Have a nice day, and may destruction visit this day.

ooc: I do not care if his nations name is Jesus Christ, he obviously is not living up to his name if that is what you are implying. You do not want to start talking about alliances, I could see your 8-9 and raise you a dozen or more. You have no business here.
Artitsa
16-11-2003, 22:34
Artitsa greatly condones this attack. However even though it promised UV military support, Artitsa was merely bluffing and cannot support any at this point. Any Monetary/Humanitarian support will be provided.
Agrigento
16-11-2003, 22:54
San Giuseppe Naval Base
Southern Coast, North Islandia
_________________________________

"Phyrric has made its move!! How I loathe to do so, but now is our chance to strike at DT and its allies.", said Admiral Poverino.

"Yes, but with the 2nd Fleet in Japann, how can we act??", replied Admiral Giancaldo.

"Don't forget this mess in Marche Islands, with Imitora's Gunboat Diplomacy.", added Admiral Brasco.

"The 'tics in Sicilia want us to act, and by God, we cannot let Dark Terror's actions go un-punished, now is our chance to take one of their major allies out of the fight.", said Poverino. He paused, looked at a map and continued, "Admiral Balducci, and th 2nd Fleet is already in Japann, with support with the East Islandians and the members of United China, there is not much we could do for him there, nor can we withdraw him. Tomaso, I want you and the 1st Fleet to disembark, usual compliment", he turned his attention to the other Admiral, "Forio, you take the 5th Fleet, get ready and await word from High Command."

With that Admiral Giancaldo and Admiral Brosco left the room and were soon en-route to their respective fleets, based on opposite ends of Agrigento.


The 1st Fleet
1 AGF-6 class Command Ship "Capo del Mare"
3 Arsenal Ships
3 AEGIS Fleet Guardian Arsenal Ships
4 Uccellino del Mare class Aircraft Carriers
6 Andrea Doria (NUM) Class Aircraft Carriers
5 MHC-51 Osprey Class Coastal Mine Hunters
37 Nike class Catamaran Corvettes
6 Naga Class Catamaran Cruisers
3 Re class Catamaran Marine Support Ships
8 Delfino class Catamaran Destroyers
9 Animoso class Destroyers
12 DDG-993 Kidd-class destroyers
16 CG-47 Ticonderoga class Cruisers
12 DDG-51 Arleigh Burke class destroyers
31 FFG-7 Oliver Hazard Perry class frigates
17 Orizzonte class AAW frigates
6 T-AE 26 Kilauea class Ammunition ships
3 AO-177 Cimarron class fleet oilers
6 LHA-1 Tarawa class Ships carrying 1,000 Marines each, plus combat equipment
4 LHD-1 Wasp class Ships each equipped with 6 AV-8B Harriers and 2,000 Marines along with their LAVs and supplies.

The Seventh Submarine Force:
13 SSN-688 Los Angeles class submarines
7 SSN-21 Seawolf class submarines
4 SSGN-726 Ohio class submarines

The Ninth Submarine Force:
21 SSN-21 Seawolf class submarines
8 SSN-688 Los Angeles class submarines
5 SSGN-726 Ohio class submarines

It will be a long journey to join up with the Phyrric fleet and assault Unum Veritas, but it is nonetheless a necessary trip.
Unum Veritas
16-11-2003, 23:21
Phyrric, have you ever heard that to assume is to make an ASS out of U and ME? If so, then you should have paid far more attention to it. You assumed that all of my forces are involved with DT? LoL, you must be delusional. I've only sent a total of 9 carrier battle groups into that conflict. I still have over twenty remaining (I'm not releasing the exact number just yet). Also, I have yet to hear an actual IC reason for your aggression. I would suggest you supply one soon. And my helping of DT is hardly an adequate response. I sent minimal naval assets to defend my ally against an invader, I didn't even commit land troops. You were the one who randomly posted that all Veritasean diplomats in your country had been arrested (an obvious breach of int'l law), even though I'd never RPed ever having any diplomats in your country. Now, perhaps you should work on getting whatever intelligence service your country has up to speed, because thinking I only have 9 battle groups was a foolish mistake. Currently there are 10 dual-carrier battle groups patrolling the waters in my region. They have been given orders to steam back towards Unum Veritas and assume defensive positions.

Also, perhaps you should go read the newbie threads, because you cannot just say that your fleets are magically off my coasts

"The Carrier Battle Groups 7, 9, 12, 13, 14, 15, 20, 21 have all started their attack runs on key targets within Unum Veritas. Amphibious Groups 2, 5, 6, 8, 10 will be making a beach run once the shore is secured through air superiority"

You ought to allow at least an hour RL time before posting that. If you don't actually learn how to RP then I'm afraid this will turn into an ignore fest. Now, I would suggest you recall your forces, and we can forget this unhappy mess ever happened.
imported_Skepticism
16-11-2003, 23:25
USSS naval forces, previously committed to assaulting Dark Terror itself, instead regroup and make straight for Unum Veritas, realizing that the fight there will be far easier. The military convoy which had been gathering on the USSS' southern coasts shall set sail for Veritas, not DT, as well.

We regret leaving Fluffywuffy to be almost certainly destroyed by Dark Terror and his cohorts, but believe that, not only can this conflict actually be won, but also draw much of Dark Terror-allied forces into the fight, perhaps giving Fluffywuffy a chance to disengage.

The fleet elements en route to Unum Veritas consist of

20 Progressive-class battleships, armed with 18-inch cannon and cruise missiles
5 Proletariat's Pride-class aircraft carriers, each capable of carrying 80 rather small Pirahna fighters
35 Revolutionary-class missile cruisers, also armed with 16-inch cannon
130 Collective-class destroyers
7 Shield-class antimissile cruisers
15 Sacrifice-class special ships
30 Manta Ray-class attack submarines

and the convoy is escorted by something around that, as well.

We of the USSS look forward to humbling one of Dark Terror's closest allies.
imported_Skepticism
16-11-2003, 23:28
Phyrric, have you ever heard that to assume is to make an ASS out of U and ME? If so, then you should have paid far more attention to it. You assumed that all of my forces are involved with DT? LoL, you must be delusional. I've only sent a total of 9 carrier battle groups into that conflict. I still have over twenty remaining (I'm not releasing the exact number just yet). Also, I have yet to hear an actual IC reason for your aggression. I would suggest you supply one soon. And my helping of DT is hardly an adequate response. I sent minimal naval assets to defend my ally against an invader, I didn't even commit land troops. You were the one who randomly posted that all Veritasean diplomats in your country had been arrested (an obvious breach of int'l law), even though I'd never RPed ever having any diplomats in your country. Now, perhaps you should work on getting whatever intelligence service your country has up to speed, because thinking I only have 9 battle groups was a foolish mistake. Currently there are 10 dual-carrier battle groups patrolling the waters in my region. They have been given orders to steam back towards Unum Veritas and assume defensive positions.

Also, perhaps you should go read the newbie threads, because you cannot just say that your fleets are magically off my coasts

"The Carrier Battle Groups 7, 9, 12, 13, 14, 15, 20, 21 have all started their attack runs on key targets within Unum Veritas. Amphibious Groups 2, 5, 6, 8, 10 will be making a beach run once the shore is secured through air superiority"

You ought to allow at least an hour RL time before posting that. If you don't actually learn how to RP then I'm afraid this will turn into an ignore fest. Now, I would suggest you recall your forces, and we can forget this unhappy mess ever happened.

OOC: As for reason, all he is doing is fighting the Dark Terror war, but taking the fight to a different front. The ally of your enemy is your enemy, not so?

As for the less-than-stellar RP, give him a bit of time. Especially now that Agrigneto is throwing his weight in.
Phyrric
16-11-2003, 23:32
OOC-Below is a list of my ships in each battle group, so multiply each number by 8, because there are 2 battle groups in each task force, and 4 task forces are on their way.

2 Nimitz Class Carriers
2 Inchon Class Minesweepers
1 Command Ship
100 Hovercraft Troop Transports
2 Hospital Ships
15 Los Angeles Class Attack Subs
70 Hover Attack Boats
5 Hovercraft Transport Ships
5 Amphibious Assault Ships
15 Arleigh Burke AEGIS Class Destroyers
15 Visby Class Corvettes
6 Oliver Hazard Perry Class Frigates
8 Replenishment Vessels
2 Submarine tenders
4 Iowa Class Battleships
6 Arsenal Ships
60 Pegasus Patrol Craft
10 Sea Shadow Assault Ships
2 Helicopter Assault Ships


Aerial Assets:
30 X-29's
20 F-117 Nighthawks (CTOL Version)
30 UV-00 Archangels
30 F-22 Sea Raptors
30 F-14 Ultra Tomcats
20 F/A-18 Super Hornets
10 AC-150 Tankers
10 CSA (ELINT, AEW, ASW, LOGISTICS)
5 EA-6B Prowlers
20 Sea Kings VIP/ASW Helos
100 V-22 Osprey
25 UH-60 Blackhawks
40 CH-46 Sea Knights
30 CH-53 Sea Stallions
2 SH-3 SAR Helicopter
6 UH-1 Marine Corp Helicopters
6 AH-1 Marine Corp Helicopters

ooc: I do not think this is illusional considering it was from your own typing/mouth. If everything is multiplied by 8, you have one hell of a force commitment at DT, sounds like everything you could possibly have in the Navy and Air Force. If anyone gets ignored, it would be you, my friend, for godmodding.

Read the first tread again, I announced my forces moving in the original thread, but I never did state they were going to DT, ever. Nothing is a surprise here. They did not magically appear, they are there and you are under attack. I said I expelled your diplomat, that should have been a strobe light in your head and what is going to happen.

Now lets RP this.
imported_Skepticism
16-11-2003, 23:37
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Unum Veritas
16-11-2003, 23:38
Again, you assume. Will you never learn? Although I suppose it is rather unfair to you. You see, I have several semi-autonomous states under me, all of whom are part of my military. And all of my military is naval forces. 8 carrier battle groups is but a tithe of my total strength. Now, if we are going to RP this, then you cannot begin the war thread by having all your forces already in my waters and attacking me. Do you think I leave my waters undefended? You cannot RP that you are already in my waters without me having a chance to defend them. Sorry...
Agrigento
16-11-2003, 23:41
Again, you assume. Will you never learn? Although I suppose it is rather unfair to you. You see, I have several semi-autonomous states under me, all of whom are part of my military. And all of my military is naval forces. 8 carrier battle groups is but a tithe of my total strength. Now, if we are going to RP this, then you cannot begin the war thread by having all your forces already in my waters and attacking me. Do you think I leave my waters undefended? You cannot RP that you are already in my waters without me having a chance to defend them. Sorry...

ooc: Oh, so basically your going to be Puppet wanking?? Hold on while I use AIM to organize my regional Allies.
Phyrric
16-11-2003, 23:44
(last ooc before assault begins)

Are you suggesting the use of puppets in a war thread? Please read the sticky's.

Look at the other posts, you are outgunned and outmaneuvered. You moved your fleet to DT, not I and yes, you did leave your coasts undefended, that is why we are here, to occupy your Nation.
17-11-2003, 00:16
The Assault Interdictor Skyward River moved into position over NS Earth, proximity lights flashing as the ship settled into geosynchronous orbit. One of the newer ships in the WCS fleet, the Assault Interdictor was a massive ship, five km long and armed iwth hundreds of laser turrets, several disruptor arrays, a full ECM array, an EMP array, missile batteries, and several squadrons of fighters.
At the request of Agrigento, Skyward River and a Sekhmet class cruiser, Huntress Dawn, had arrived on station to monitor the situation and, if possible, settle hostilites. THe WCS Peace Council of the Foreign Activities Commission had announced that WCS would hold a peace conference on one of its planets, the moon of Theta, the other day. Theta was a beautiful, tropical planet with lush foliage and gentle winds that much reminded the people of WCS of their Earthbound homes in Tropical Paradise, near East Islandia and Agrigento; Theta was a resort for many politicians and also a common meeting place for diplomats from many countries.

As Skyward River moved into position, it fired several satellites from its missile tubes. The craft blossomed out, expanding over the surface of NS Earth, and opened their cameras, providing real-time intelligence to the WCS Military COuncil.

The call had been made. Now the ships watched and waited.
Two more Sekhmet cruisers and a Nioro class cruiser were a few hours distance away from the two ships on station over NS Earth.
17-11-2003, 00:17
On second thought, WCS, upon learning the nature of the situation, has stopped its call for peace and instead calls for Dark Terror to stop killing Catholics for no reason.

the reinforcements have moved in system, and the 2nd Interplanetary Battlegroup is ready to move into position.
Unum Veritas
17-11-2003, 00:32
1st off, I do not RP w/ future tech nations. Second off they are not puppets. Their former owners (all of whom I know OOC) asked me to take their countries because they no longer wished to play. I RPed a peaceful takeover of each of the nations. They are semi-autonomous regions, meaning they have leave to control their own affairs, but they are under the Veritasean flag. Therefore, their military etc is also under Veritasean control. None of these countries RP in the forums, because they are regions rather than countries. Also, I did not leave my shores undefended. You do not know the exact numbers of my military, so you cannot say that they are undefended. You cannot RP for my own forces.

So basically, your reason for doing this is that you knew you didn't stand a chance against DT, so you figured you'd go find someone who you thought to be easier to attack? How very noble.... Unfortunately I cannot RP any tonight because I have stuff to do. Now, if you want this to be a serious RP, then begin by RPing (in this thread) moving your forces towards my country. Then tomorrow I shall respond and the RP can go on from there.
Phyrric
17-11-2003, 00:45
1st off, I do not RP w/ future tech nations. Second off they are not puppets. Their former owners (all of whom I know OOC) asked me to take their countries because they no longer wished to play. I RPed a peaceful takeover of each of the nations. They are semi-autonomous regions, meaning they have leave to control their own affairs, but they are under the Veritasean flag. Therefore, their military etc is also under Veritasean control. None of these countries RP in the forums, because they are regions rather than countries. Also, I did not leave my shores undefended. You do not know the exact numbers of my military, so you cannot say that they are undefended. You cannot RP for my own forces.

So basically, your reason for doing this is that you knew you didn't stand a chance against DT, so you figured you'd go find someone who you thought to be easier to attack? How very noble.... Unfortunately I cannot RP any tonight because I have stuff to do. Now, if you want this to be a serious RP, then begin by RPing (in this thread) moving your forces towards my country. Then tomorrow I shall respond and the RP can go on from there.

Odd, I would have to agree. Please leave the space tech in space. I have forced DT to back down before, it is no big deal. Does it matter where the war front is if there is a war going on? If you use their passwords and under your direct control, they are puppets.
Unum Veritas
17-11-2003, 00:49
Yes, they are puppets, but my point is they are not nations. They are regions of my own country. I do not RP with them, I only log in to keep them from getting deleted, actually.
Artitsa
17-11-2003, 00:54
This may be biased, but I agree. The funny thing was, a guy in the other thread called me a godmodder for threatening to invade Phyrric by magically transporting the tanks across the ocean. Here we have Phyrric magically transporting his navy into UV.
Unum Veritas
17-11-2003, 00:56
Thank you...I can only hope I get a few more friendly countries into this RP
17-11-2003, 01:16
I dont stand a chance against Dark Terror?
You're retarded if you think I'm looking for someone to pick one besides the almighty Godmodder that is DT.
I came here because my good friend Agrigento asked me to take a look at you and your half assed war and support him.

And theres someting called ASKING NICELY. DUnno if you've heard of it, but if u dont want me to RP, fine. Juss say "Plz dont RP cause i dont Rp wit Space tech" and i'll find somewhere else to go.
Phyrric
17-11-2003, 01:17
IC:

In a meeting with the Minister of War and The Pyrrhus, the conditions for the surrender are established and expected to be ratified by the Senate upon signature from the Government of Unum Veritas.

"This is not going to bode well for them sir"

"It matters not, these are the conditions and if they do not accept them, then let their people suffer for the actions of their government. The Leaders of Phyrric are generous in their missions of peace, but when we are contested, we will emerge victorious."

"Very well sir, I will transmit this immediately to their Government."

Transmittal sent to the Nation of Unum Veritas
Subject: Conditions of Surrender

1. To sever all military treaty ties with the Nation of Dark Terror.
A. Remove all forces from the Region of Ardor
B. Sign conditions of peace with the Nation of Fluffywuffy

2. To downsize the military force of the Nation of Unum Veritas as agreed upon by the Entete of Phyrric, Agrigento, Skepticism and Fluffywuffy.
A. Capital ships shall not exceed the amount of twenty (20) for the Nation of Unum Veritas. The armed forces of Unum Veritas shall not exceed the amount of 1 million enlisted, officer, reserve and active duty support personnel. Military bases shall be downsized and reduced to effective enable Unum Veritas to defend itself only if the need arises.
B. Unum Veritas shall never, under any circumstance, perform any act of agression towards another Nation for the sole purpose of treaty obligations, imperialism, or any other reason that might entail harm to another Nation.

3. To establish a Most Favored Nation trade obligation to the Nations of Phyrric, Agrigento, Skepticism, and Fluffywuffy.
A. There shall never be any tariffs or taxes imposed upon the said four (4) Nations by the Nation of Unum Veritas
B. There shall be no reparations paid to Phyrric, Agrigento, or Skepticism. There shall, however, be an amount of the cost of the attack made upon the Nation of Fluffywuffy for any and all damages made to units owned and operated by the Nation of Fluffywuffy performed by the Nation of Unum Veritas.
C. This trade agreement cannot be cancelled by the Nation of Unum Veritas for any reason other than a breach of duties or a forfeiture by any or all of the Guardians of this treay.
a. The guardians of this treaty are hereby recognized as the Nations of Phyrric, Agrigento, Skepticism, and Fluffywuffy.
b. No guardian can be replaced for any reason. If a said guardian wishes to resign its duties, that will break the treaty obligation with that said Nation only.

4. There are to be no military bases established within the Nation of Unum Veritas or any territories occupied by the Nation of Unum Veritas by the Guardians of this Treaty. There are conditions of the military bases.
A. If the actions of Unum Veritas threaten or harass another Nation as defined in section 2 of this treaty, Unum Veritas will be immediately occupied without question and military bases will henceforth be enforced at the discretion of the Guardians of this Treaty.
B. Embassies within the Nation of Unum Veritas will be authorized a military garrison by the Guardians for the purpose of maintaining and enforcing this treaty until such a time that peace is established and friendship terms are proven by the Nation of Unum Veritas.
a. The military garrison shall not exceed 1000 miltary personnel by each of the said Guardians.
b. Any assault or attack upon the said embassies by the Nation of Unum Veritas will be intrepreted as an act of war against all the said Guardians.

5. The Nation of Unum Veritas shall immediately withdrawal from any and all alliances that henceforth promote imperialism, violent acts against personal freedoms, oppression, and any other unjust cause that might be interpreted as a hostile organization that promotes such actions.

6. The Nation of Unum Veritas shall submit reports of activities and military numbers to the Nation of Phyrric who shall, in return, report to the other said Nations of the Guardians of this treay. Inspectors from each and any of the Guardians shall be authorized to enter the Nation of Unum veritas to validate such a report when it is deemed necessary to do so. This report shall be submitted no later than the 25th day of July for each and every successive year that this Treaty shall be in effect.

7. This Treaty is to be in effect for a period of no less than 99 years.

CC: Agrigento, Skepticim, Fluffywuffy
17-11-2003, 01:17
Obviously, RPing wit nations other than their own puppets is hard for some ppl to understand.
Agrigento
17-11-2003, 01:20
So basically, your reason for doing this is that you knew you didn't stand a chance against DT, so you figured you'd go find someone who you thought to be easier to attack? How very noble....

Guess what....thats called Strategy. It would have been noble if the Allies attacked where the German's thought they would have....but hey getting defeated wasn't part of Churchill and Eisenhower's plans. You attack where you are strong and your enemy is weak, thats a basic lesson of war, a lesson repeated thousands of times again. Don't give me "how very noble", because War is not noble, killing people is not noble, but that doesn't mean its not neccessary.
Phyrric
17-11-2003, 01:21
I dont stand a chance against Dark Terror?
You're retarded if you think I'm looking for someone to pick one besides the almighty Godmodder that is DT.
I came here because my good friend Agrigento asked me to take a look at you and your half assed war and support him.

And theres someting called ASKING NICELY. DUnno if you've heard of it, but if u dont want me to RP, fine. Juss say "Plz dont RP cause i dont Rp wit Space tech" and i'll find somewhere else to go.

ooc: I do not mind space tech nations rping, just dull it to the peons of modern tech :wink:
Artitsa
17-11-2003, 01:26
Dark Terror has allowed me to free up two Carrier Groups. They will be setting course for UV waters, ETA: 12 Days. All Supply convoys will be heavily escorted, and the new Artitsan SAN-580's will be used.
17-11-2003, 01:26
For each day the war goes unended, 100 catholics will be slowly sawed to pieces, well youg et the point. Since they're guarded by some of the most battle ready units in the Bisonic army, as well as spec ops forces, dont even think of trying to "liberate" them.
Agrigento
17-11-2003, 01:31
For each day the war goes unended, 100 catholics will be slowly sawed to pieces, well youg et the point. Since they're guarded by some of the most battle ready units in the Bisonic army, as well as spec ops forces, dont even think of trying to "liberate" them.

They will find freedom in death, freedom that they were denied in life. Their image will become the image of Martyrs, and will give our people the will, the spirit, and the zeal to keep going on.
17-11-2003, 01:34
Since Fluffywuffy troops are about to be crushed in a little well planned out attack, we wont be long in sending help to our allies.
Phyrric
17-11-2003, 01:35
Dark Terror has allowed me to free up two Carrier Groups. They will be setting course for UV waters, ETA: 12 Days. All Supply convoys will be heavily escorted, and the new Artitsan SAN-580's will be used.

If you show up, you will find your fleet on the bottom of the ocean shortly after arrival and when I am done here, I will not give you such generous surrender options, it will be unconditional and intent on annexation.

You are hereby warned.
Barbarosea
17-11-2003, 01:35
If anyone invades UV, they will be invaded (or kicked out if UV loses) as soon as Barbarosea is done with the SC-Omz222 war. Also, any thoughts of invading Barbarosea and the CoE region and nurmorous other allies will be called (+ I got about 7 Million ppl defending my nation).
Swirrhirr
17-11-2003, 01:37
The Solamnic Knights of Swirrhirr send in 50,000 elite soldiers and 25 Hercules tanks along with 50 Sirius and Orion tanks as support. Also, we send in 10 B-52 bombers and ready our nuclear arsenal and naval fleets. We will aid Unum Veritas until we see fit to extract our forces.
Phyrric
17-11-2003, 01:40
The Solamnic Knights of Swirrhirr send in 50,000 elite soldiers and 25 Hercules tanks along with 50 Sirius and Orion tanks as support. Also, we send in 10 B-52 bombers and ready our nuclear arsenal and naval fleets. We will aid Unum Veritas until we see fit to extract our forces.

Not exactly sure how you will get them there with 8 carrier groups in the water from Phyrric alone, but more than welcome to try.
Pissed off Americans
17-11-2003, 01:42
The RPA has surged 8 Carrier Battle groups en route to the watters of UV to provide Defensive operations for Phyrric forces.
Swirrhirr
17-11-2003, 01:42
It's called nano-technology, which was developed by our engineers. We can transport troops and other military units spontaneously in a matter of seconds from one place to another.
Unum Veritas
17-11-2003, 01:43
For each day the war goes unended, 100 catholics will be slowly sawed to pieces, well youg et the point. Since they're guarded by some of the most battle ready units in the Bisonic army, as well as spec ops forces, dont even think of trying to "liberate" them.

They will find freedom in death, freedom that they were denied in life. Their image will become the image of Martyrs, and will give our people the will, the spirit, and the zeal to keep going on.

That zeal won't help the catholics much. Also, in case you didn't notice Phyrric, no damage has been done by Veritasean forces to Fluffywuffy....at least not until he RP any losses he has taken.

IC-4 of the carrier battle groups that were previously in DT waters, have been given orders to steam towards Phyrric's coastline. This convoy has been augmented by 4 more assault ships. As soon as the craft are within range (expected 2 NS days) they will begin attacking key land targets. (To keep from being called a godmodder, I shall only have 5 carrier battle groups in my own waters and I'll pretend all the others are off on patrols or something, fair?)

The 5 battle groups committed to Homeland Defense are preparing to interdict the arriving Phyrric forces. The forward-recon elements of one of the groups has picked up the Phyrric forces on the edge of their radar, and this "take" has been relayed to all other Veritasean forces. 2 Assault ships have taken these radar plots, and have begun firing their first salvo of missiles. Currently there are 12 Brahmos anti-ship missiles headed for a large concentration of Phyrric ships.

OOC-DT thanks, the sooner I can get help, the better.
17-11-2003, 01:44
It's called nano-technology, which was developed by our engineers. We can transport troops and other military units spontaneously in a matter of seconds from one place to another.
No future tech on either side.
Agrigento
17-11-2003, 01:44
It's called nano-technology, which was developed by our engineers. We can transport troops and other military units spontaneously in a matter of seconds from one place to another.

ooc: Did you hear something? I could've sworn it was a nation...guess he was just IGNORED.
Swirrhirr
17-11-2003, 01:46
Sorry, nevermind about nano-technology then. Well, there goes some of my ideas.
Agrigento
17-11-2003, 01:48
That zeal won't help the catholics much.

The Zeal will prove useful in battle for my men. It has turned the tides of war in the past, and shall again in the future. A catholic would rather die, than be forced to live neglecting their faith, lying to themselves and God.

The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you.
Ezekiel 25:17 - Jules' version
Agrigento
17-11-2003, 01:48
Sorry, nevermind about nano-technology then. Well, there goes some of my ideas.

ooc: You can keep it, just not use it in this war.
Clanicka
17-11-2003, 01:49
We come to the aid of Swirrhirr, despite the fact that we are Knights of Takhisis, and to the aid of Unum Veritas and his other allies.
Phyrric
17-11-2003, 01:53
For each day the war goes unended, 100 catholics will be slowly sawed to pieces, well youg et the point. Since they're guarded by some of the most battle ready units in the Bisonic army, as well as spec ops forces, dont even think of trying to "liberate" them.

They will find freedom in death, freedom that they were denied in life. Their image will become the image of Martyrs, and will give our people the will, the spirit, and the zeal to keep going on.

That zeal won't help the catholics much. Also, in case you didn't notice Phyrric, no damage has been done by Veritasean forces to Fluffywuffy....at least not until he RP any losses he has taken.

IC-4 of the carrier battle groups that were previously in DT waters, have been given orders to steam towards Phyrric's coastline. This convoy has been augmented by 4 more assault ships. As soon as the craft are within range (expected 2 NS days) they will begin attacking key land targets. (To keep from being called a godmodder, I shall only have 5 carrier battle groups in my own waters and I'll pretend all the others are off on patrols or something, fair?)

The 5 battle groups committed to Homeland Defense are preparing to interdict the arriving Phyrric forces. The forward-recon elements of one of the groups has picked up the Phyrric forces on the edge of their radar, and this "take" has been relayed to all other Veritasean forces. 2 Assault ships have taken these radar plots, and have begun firing their first salvo of missiles. Currently there are 12 Brahmos anti-ship missiles headed for a large concentration of Phyrric ships.

OOC-DT thanks, the sooner I can get help, the better.

ooc: You are more than welcome to come over, notice the groups I have posted and where are the others you might think? There is one group at Port Neptune, Melkor Unchained destroyed another before the ignore fest started in that war (Group 3 I think it was and never replaced, old Roman pride thing, do not replace lost legions) but that is all that is deployed. If you can find a recent thread that says otherwise, I will eat my words. Phyrric funds heavy on its Navy. Notice no Air Force/Army posts or deployments, where could they be?

Home
Unum Veritas
17-11-2003, 01:53
We come to the aid of Swirrhirr, despite the fact that we are Knights of Takhisis, and to the aid of Unum Veritas and his other allies.

This is very much appreciated. Swirrhirr, the technology is fine, but it has been agreed that no future tech can be used in this war. Just stick to normal stuff for now.

The Veritasean government wishes to thank both of these brave nations who have stepped out of the woodwork to help Unum Veritas.
Unum Veritas
17-11-2003, 01:56
For each day the war goes unended, 100 catholics will be slowly sawed to pieces, well youg et the point. Since they're guarded by some of the most battle ready units in the Bisonic army, as well as spec ops forces, dont even think of trying to "liberate" them.

They will find freedom in death, freedom that they were denied in life. Their image will become the image of Martyrs, and will give our people the will, the spirit, and the zeal to keep going on.

That zeal won't help the catholics much. Also, in case you didn't notice Phyrric, no damage has been done by Veritasean forces to Fluffywuffy....at least not until he RP any losses he has taken.

IC-4 of the carrier battle groups that were previously in DT waters, have been given orders to steam towards Phyrric's coastline. This convoy has been augmented by 4 more assault ships. As soon as the craft are within range (expected 2 NS days) they will begin attacking key land targets. (To keep from being called a godmodder, I shall only have 5 carrier battle groups in my own waters and I'll pretend all the others are off on patrols or something, fair?)

The 5 battle groups committed to Homeland Defense are preparing to interdict the arriving Phyrric forces. The forward-recon elements of one of the groups has picked up the Phyrric forces on the edge of their radar, and this "take" has been relayed to all other Veritasean forces. 2 Assault ships have taken these radar plots, and have begun firing their first salvo of missiles. Currently there are 12 Brahmos anti-ship missiles headed for a large concentration of Phyrric ships.

OOC-DT thanks, the sooner I can get help, the better.

ooc: You are more than welcome to come over, notice the groups I have posted and where are the others you might think? There is one group at Port Neptune, Melkor Unchained destroyed another before the ignore fest started in that war (Group 3 I think it was and never replaced, old Roman pride thing, do not replace lost legions) but that is all that is deployed. If you can find a recent thread that says otherwise, I will eat my words. Phyrric funds heavy on its Navy. Notice no Air Force/Army posts or deployments, where could they be?

Home

Right...and if your army can swim far enough to deal with my ships then so be it. If your planes have longer range than cruise missiles, then okay. But first they ahve to get through 4 dual-carrier battle groups that are augmented with stealth assault ships. Each assault ship has 500 vertical-cell Tomahawk cruise-missile tubes. And I do believe I have over 10 headed for your country. Ouch...
Clanicka
17-11-2003, 01:58
It is a pleasure to help Unum Veritas and Swirrhirr, and I can also sway Jhera Noctus to help you in your war, if you would like.
Unum Veritas
17-11-2003, 01:59
Any and all help is greatly appreciated.
Agrigento
17-11-2003, 02:00
ooc: Jesus christ, how the hell are you attacking Phyrric when you have troops in DT and are under attack at home??? Can you say overwhelmed. Even if you have enough ships to do it the meer logistics alone are fathomable. Your Naval Command must be composed of 99999 Über Super Computer AI units to be able to organize all of this.

Talk about missing the point. This is a suprise and sudden attack....you have major forces deployed elsewhere and any claims to the otherwise are just completely futile.
Clanicka
17-11-2003, 02:00
Oh, and by the way, Clanicka sends out our Phantoms, cloacked fighter jets equipped with missiles, and we also deploy a convoy of T-89 RAPs, or Robotic Attack Platforms.
17-11-2003, 02:01
OOC:
Surprise attack? Erm spy sattelites can see fleets of ships moving around.

BTW, dont like it, feel free to leave. Simple, really!
Artitsa
17-11-2003, 02:03
ooc: He even said at the beginning himself that UV would be able to see it by satelite.
Phyrric
17-11-2003, 02:04
[/quote]Each assault ship has 500 vertical-cell Tomahawk cruise-missile tubes. And I do believe I have over 10 headed for your country. Ouch...[/quote]

(cough cough) BS I would love to see 500 missiles come out of a ship in a single volley. Stealth ship, lmao, the thing about salt water, leaves this lovely white trail behind anything that passes over/through it. The ship may be "stealth", but the launch tubes are not, neither is the movement. Can you provide the schematics of this ship?
Agrigento
17-11-2003, 02:04
ooc: He even said at the beginning himself that UV would be able to see it by satelite.

So your saying that by the time that all this information was processed UV is able to Disengage major aspects of his force, plan out a counter attack against his homeland...AND organize a defense...come on lets be realistic, there is a difference between Obtaining Information and Acting on it.
Unum Veritas
17-11-2003, 02:04
ooc: Jesus christ, how the hell are you attacking Phyrric when you have troops in DT and are under attack at home??? Can you say overwhelmed. Even if you have enough ships to do it the meer logistics alone are fathomable. Your Naval Command must be composed of 99999 Über Super Computer AI units to be able to organize all of this.

Talk about missing the point. This is a suprise and sudden attack....you have major forces deployed elsewhere and any claims to the otherwise are just completely futile.

Did you not read? I relocated some of the ships at DT to attack Phyrric.... Its not that hard to send a message saying "move from here, go here, attack this". And I do have other forces. No country in the world sends its entire armed forces into one conflict. Phyrric also said in his very first post I would know about this as a result of satellite photography... Besides, almost all of my military spending goes towards the navy, which is $3 trillion per year (and I only RP 1 RL week as 1 NS year...not even 1 day=1year)
17-11-2003, 02:05
Each assault ship has 500 vertical-cell Tomahawk cruise-missile tubes. And I do believe I have over 10 headed for your country. Ouch...[/quote]

(cough cough) BS I would love to see 500 missiles come out of a ship in a single volley. Stealth ship, lmao, the thing about salt water, leaves this lovely white trail behind anything that passes over/through it. The ship may be "stealth", but the launch tubes are not, neither is the movement. Can you provide the schematics of this ship?[/quote]
Ever heard of the Arsenal ship?>
Unum Veritas
17-11-2003, 02:06
Each assault ship has 500 vertical-cell Tomahawk cruise-missile tubes. And I do believe I have over 10 headed for your country. Ouch...[/quote]

(cough cough) BS I would love to see 500 missiles come out of a ship in a single volley. Stealth ship, lmao, the thing about salt water, leaves this lovely white trail behind anything that passes over/through it. The ship may be "stealth", but the launch tubes are not, neither is the movement. Can you provide the schematics of this ship?[/quote]

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ship/arsenal_ship.htm
Agrigento
17-11-2003, 02:06
And I repeat:

So your saying that by the time that all this information was processed UV is able to Disengage major aspects of his force, plan out a counter attack against his homeland...AND organize a defense...come on lets be realistic, there is a difference between Obtaining Information and Acting on it.
Agrigento
17-11-2003, 02:07
So UV your ships can suddenly go from DT to your homeland, and Phyrric's ships take regular time???
Phyrric
17-11-2003, 02:07
Oh, and by the way, Clanicka sends out our Phantoms, cloacked fighter jets equipped with missiles, and we also deploy a convoy of T-89 RAPs, or Robotic Attack Platforms.

nice try, please read the thread people before posting non-sense forces and plans. It is agreed that this is modern tech by the important nations involved.
Unum Veritas
17-11-2003, 02:08
So UV your ships can suddenly go from DT to your homeland, and Phyrric's ships take regular time???

OMG...what part of "not all my forces were in DT" do you not understand?
Agrigento
17-11-2003, 02:09
OMG...what part of "not all my forces were in DT" do you not understand?

OH, and you didn't write this???

Did you not read? I relocated some of the ships at DT to attack Phyrric
Unum Veritas
17-11-2003, 02:10
Anyways...waiting on a damage report from the missiles launched at your ships, Phyrric.
17-11-2003, 02:10
OOC:
Ignorefest #2348756390 in II boards coming right up. :roll:

Dont like it? LEAVE!
Unum Veritas
17-11-2003, 02:11
OMG...what part of "not all my forces were in DT" do you not understand?

OH, and you didn't write this???

Did you not read? I relocated some of the ships at DT to attack Phyrric

*speaks very slowly so that Agrigento can, perhaps, understand*

I had 8 battle groups at DT. 4 were sent to Phyrric. 4-8=4. 4 are left in DT. Not all of my forces were in DT. Those that were not, are still at UV.
17-11-2003, 02:12
ooc: I do not mind space tech nations rping, just dull it to the peons of modern tech :wink:

ok Phyrric.. then i'll juss use projectile rifles, fighters, WATER ships, and no space ships.. juss satellites i guess...
that fine wit every1?
Phyrric
17-11-2003, 02:14
Anyways...waiting on a damage report from the missiles launched at your ships, Phyrric.

What missile attack?
Unum Veritas
17-11-2003, 02:15
For each day the war goes unended, 100 catholics will be slowly sawed to pieces, well youg et the point. Since they're guarded by some of the most battle ready units in the Bisonic army, as well as spec ops forces, dont even think of trying to "liberate" them.

They will find freedom in death, freedom that they were denied in life. Their image will become the image of Martyrs, and will give our people the will, the spirit, and the zeal to keep going on.

That zeal won't help the catholics much. Also, in case you didn't notice Phyrric, no damage has been done by Veritasean forces to Fluffywuffy....at least not until he RP any losses he has taken.

IC-4 of the carrier battle groups that were previously in DT waters, have been given orders to steam towards Phyrric's coastline. This convoy has been augmented by 4 more assault ships. As soon as the craft are within range (expected 2 NS days) they will begin attacking key land targets. (To keep from being called a godmodder, I shall only have 5 carrier battle groups in my own waters and I'll pretend all the others are off on patrols or something, fair?)

The 5 battle groups committed to Homeland Defense are preparing to interdict the arriving Phyrric forces. The forward-recon elements of one of the groups has picked up the Phyrric forces on the edge of their radar, and this "take" has been relayed to all other Veritasean forces. 2 Assault ships have taken these radar plots, and have begun firing their first salvo of missiles. Currently there are 12 Brahmos anti-ship missiles headed for a large concentration of Phyrric ships.

OOC-DT thanks, the sooner I can get help, the better.
Agrigento
17-11-2003, 02:16
*speaks very slowly so that Agrigento can, perhaps, understand*

I had 8 battle groups at DT. 4 were sent to Phyrric. 4-8=4. 4 are left in DT. Not all of my forces were in DT. Those that were not, are still at UV.

B-u-t...y-o-u s-a-i-d

Right...and if your army can swim far enough to deal with my ships then so be it. If your planes have longer range than cruise missiles, then okay. But first they ahve to get through 4 dual-carrier battle groups that are augmented with stealth assault ships. Each assault ship has 500 vertical-cell Tomahawk cruise-missile tubes. And I do believe I have over 10 headed for your country. Ouch...

t-h-a-t would be an impossible assault to organize, especially when your homeland is under direct naval attack. Lets look at it like this:

Your ships are leaving DT to attack Phyrric, now what is stopping Phyrric from deploying other forces, he obviously didn't deploy his whole navy as well, nor did I.

You know what is stopping him? The fact that the time-space continuum only applies to your enemies.

Thats the way it seems to me...BUT

I will stop this dumb-ass arguing and get into the RP.
Unum Veritas
17-11-2003, 02:18
The ships are not at his country yet. I never said they were. I am waiting for them to get there....the space-time continuum does apply to me.
Agrigento
17-11-2003, 02:19
The ships are not at his country yet. I never said they were. I am waiting for them to get there....the space-time continuum does apply to me.

ooc: w.e lets just stop this aggravation and just RP, okay?

I apologize if I was wrong at any point, for what ever reason.
Unum Veritas
17-11-2003, 02:21
Okay, then let's agree on something....I have 4 groups in DT, 4 headed towards Phyrric, and say, 4 at home? That's only 12 groups which is possible since i spend almost exclusively on navy...
17-11-2003, 02:21
The Isolationist Empire stands with its ally Unum Veritas. Any and all available military units of the Empire will be made available for the DEFENSE of Unum Veritas, but will not participate in any invasions of other nations at this time. The Preator sends his greating to the High Chancellor, wishing that it had been under better circumstances for our two militaries to meet.

As of this moment, Battle Groups 1-4 are heading towards the waters of UV to aid in its defense. Battle Groups 1 & 2 consist of:

2 Command Ships
2 Nimitz Carriers
5 Battleships
10 Cruisers
10 Destroyers
15 Frigates
20 Aegis Cruisers (upgraded by our own needs)
10 Elemental Air-Defense/Anti-Sub Frigates
20 "Skimmer" Patrol Boats
15 LA subs
10 Ohio subs
15 Seawolf subs
15 Type 621 subs (catapiller-drive)
20 Oilers
30 EM-80 replenishment ships

Battle Groups 3 & 4 consist of the same, except instead of Nimitz carriers they are Hover Carriers. On the carriers are an assortment of Super Tomcats, Super Hornets, F-22's, A-6's, and modified F-16's (as well as the support aircraft). Several sqaudrons are being scrambled and sent to UV bases to help in the air war. More will be sent as it becomes available.

ETA for readying troops to arrive at UV: 2 days (tomorrow night RL)

OOC: Sorry for the delay Unum, just say this thread and the other one.
Unum Veritas
17-11-2003, 02:24
The Isolationist Empire stands with its ally Unum Veritas. Any and all available military units of the Empire will be made available for the DEFENSE of Unum Veritas, but will not participate in any invasions of other nations at this time. The Preator sends his greating to the High Chancellor, wishing that it had been under better circumstances for our two militaries to meet.

As of this moment, Battle Groups 1-4 are heading towards the waters of UV to aid in its defense. Battle Groups 1 & 2 consist of:

2 Command Ships
2 Nimitz Carriers
5 Battleships
10 Cruisers
10 Destroyers
15 Frigates
20 Aegis Cruisers (upgraded by our own needs)
10 Elemental Air-Defense/Anti-Sub Frigates
20 "Skimmer" Patrol Boats
15 LA subs
10 Ohio subs
15 Seawolf subs
15 Type 621 subs (catapiller-drive)
20 Oilers
30 EM-80 replenishment ships

Battle Groups 3 & 4 consist of the same, except instead of Nimitz carriers they are Hover Carriers. On the carriers are an assortment of Super Tomcats, Super Hornets, F-22's, A-6's, and modified F-16's (as well as the support aircraft). Several sqaudrons are being scrambled and sent to UV bases to help in the air war. More will be sent as it becomes available.

ETA for readying troops to arrive at UV: 2 days (tomorrow night RL)

OOC: Sorry for the delay Unum, just say this thread and the other one.

No problem, your arrival was anxiously awaited.

The Veritasean government wishes to express its sincere thanks to the Isolationist Empire for helping in this time of greatest need.
East Islandia
17-11-2003, 02:29
EI, being a longtime ally of AG, will not let this aggression against Innocent Catholix stand.

Four Naga class cruisers are inbound, along with four heavy missile frigates, a medium cruiser, and a medium carrier, escorted by three Typhoon class destroyers, two more frigates, and accompanied by two replenishment ships for the fleet. The First Engagement Group, as this motley collection of ships is known as, will join with AG forces in a day.

The Fifth Engagement Group is en route, and will be due in a few hours. The First Independent Strike Regiment is prepping for airstrikes on DT cities.
Rapid response paratroopers of the Eighth and SEventh Forward Shock Divisions are preparing for airdrops (if needed) and the Twelfth and Fifteenth Amphibious Assault Groups are preparing for landings.
Wolfpacks Seven Four Zero and Eight Eight One are prowling the oceans, awaiting orders from Forces Command. For now, they will sink and shoot at all enemy ships.

The Third Advanced Fighter Division is ready to ship out and help our allies. The First Volunteer Group, consisting of S37s and F22s, are landing at AG airfields near the warzone.

Independent anti-ship/strike regiments of the Naval Air Arm are also preparing to launch airstrikes against all enemy targets.
Phyrric
17-11-2003, 02:30
A huge explosion id heard as a shock wave ripples the water where AE 102 used to be. The explosion took out a frigate that was along side as an escort and another missile implodes on the front portion of a DDG. Damage was heavy to the DDG and made it inoperable, but still managed to stay afloat.

"We might have to scuttle this one sir"

"Save the crew, set charges after the crew is off....."

Admiral Antiachus V then takes command of the fleet

"Set course for the shore, launch the attack and sink that Navy."

Several different waves of water approach the UV fleet that is attempting to engage the Carriers of Phyrric. It is apparent that the submarines are engaging and attacking with the aid of the BBG, CGN, and DDG attacks with their surface to surface missile.

F18, F14, and F22 all come racing off the flight decks of the 8 carriers with full intent to sink everything that is on the surface of the water.

"Sink them, sink them all, let nothing be on the water but ourselves"
Agrigento
17-11-2003, 02:32
ooc: Where exactly is UV located again?
Unum Veritas
17-11-2003, 02:41
"Commodore, we've got inbound enemy subs!" reported a young ensign aboard the UVS Glycerine command ship.
"Alright, launch ASW aircraft, and move our own attack subs forward. Have the Perry frigates move up, and move our carriers behind the screen. Move some destroyers up and have them keep an AA screen up." Commodore White ordered. "Where's the other half of the defense force?" [OOC-The attacking ships were 2 battle groups, the other 2 are around, but not in that area.]
"Sir, they're across from us, but the Phyrric forces lie between us and them."
"Very well, patch me in to their command ship."

White then picked up a gold phone and was immediately connected to the CIC of the UVS Whereabouts, the command ship of the other 2 groups.
"Commodore Rail? This is Commodore White. We're under attack. I was wondering if you could give us some help..."

Fifteen minutes later 5 LA Class attack subs moved within striking distance of the Phyrric forces and fired missiles at the enemy. At the same time, a flight of F-14E Ultra Tomcats fired off a salvo of anti-ship missiles towards Phyrric forces.

Back aboard the UVS Glycerine, reports were coming in of a damaged ASW frigate, and a large air battle between both forces' jets. Commodore White ordered a CSA (a new generation E2-C Hawkeye) into the air to control the air battle.
Unum Veritas
17-11-2003, 02:43
Now would be a good time to explain that my country is an archipelago with several rocky shoals off the coasts. It can be hazardous to subs that aren't careful, or to ships with deep hulls.
17-11-2003, 02:44
Now would be a good time to explain that my country is an archipelago with several rocky shoals off the coasts. It can be hazardous to subs that aren't careful, or to ships with deep hulls.Get some coastal Harpoon missile batteries!
Agrigento
17-11-2003, 02:44
Now would be a good time to explain that my country is an archipelago with several rocky shoals off the coasts. It can be hazardous to subs that aren't careful, or to ships with deep hulls.

ooc: Where in relation to RL is it tho?
Phyrric
17-11-2003, 02:46
"Sir, it is clearly obvious that the Nation of Unum Veritas ahs ignored the Treaty and desire total war." The Minister of War reports to the Pyrrhus.

"Then war is what they shall have."

"There are other issues, satellites have picked other forces headed toward UV from both allies and foes, this should be very intense. We also noticed a force headed in our direction, it is small and should not be that much of a threat."

"That is what was expected, send out the Battle Fleets 2, 4, 5, 6, 16, 17 and 18 to take care of it. Bring the battle closer to home, let the Air Force have some fun in this turkey shoot. Let it be clear to the Generals and Admirals that I do not want to deal with prisoners, save them humanly if possible, but only if necessary. Take them if surrender/defect is obvious"
Unum Veritas
17-11-2003, 02:46
Oh dear, I'd never though of it in relation to RL. Hmmmm.... How's about in the South Pacific, with some seismic activity.

DT, shhhh.... Just wait. I still have several things which have not been revealed/used yet.
Phyrric
17-11-2003, 02:47
Now would be a good time to explain that my country is an archipelago with several rocky shoals off the coasts. It can be hazardous to subs that aren't careful, or to ships with deep hulls.Get some coastal Harpoon missile batteries!

a little too late for that ya think? but might want to note it for next time this should ever happen.
Agrigento
17-11-2003, 02:47
Oh dear, I'd never though of it in relation to RL. Hmmmm.... How's about in the Pacific.

DT, shhhh.... Just wait. I still have several things which have not been revealed/used yet.

ooc: Cool, my region is in the pacific as well.
Phyrric
17-11-2003, 02:48
Oh dear, I'd never though of it in relation to RL. Hmmmm.... How's about in the Pacific.

DT, shhhh.... Just wait. I still have several things which have not been revealed/used yet.

ooc: Cool, my region is in the pacific as well.

This is really good news. 8)
17-11-2003, 02:49
Now would be a good time to explain that my country is an archipelago with several rocky shoals off the coasts. It can be hazardous to subs that aren't careful, or to ships with deep hulls.Get some coastal Harpoon missile batteries!

a little too late for that ya think? but might want to note it for next time this should ever happen.No, I dont think, because he makes harpoons for his ships (if Im right on this), so he can coughp these up.
*shuts up at UV's request*
Pissed off Americans
17-11-2003, 02:49
********FLASH TRAFFIC********FLASH TRAFFIC***********

COMSUBLNTFLT

CNDR TASKFORCE ALPHA ONE

COMMENCE UNRESTICTED SUBMARINE WARFARE AGAINST UV FORCES. AUTHORIZATION: DELTA 1 TANGO 4 TIME NOW END

******** FLASH TRAFFIC********FLASH TRAFFIC**********
Artitsa
17-11-2003, 02:49
Artitsan Carrier groups are two days away from UV waters. CAP is being stepped up, and ASW patrols are also very high.
East Islandia
17-11-2003, 02:50
H9 bombers of the FIrst Independent Strike Regiment carry out probing attacks all along UV's coast line, escorted by EH9s.
J34s of the navy antiship/strike regiments fire air launched versions of the P800 Yakhont supersonic cruise missile at UV ships in support of Phyrric
Unum Veritas
17-11-2003, 02:51
Oh good lord, could we not have kept this somewhat small and manageable? We don't need another World War (in fact there's one going on right now if I'm correct). How many countries do you need on your side? Also, how is it that all of their forces and planes are magically in my waters, but my allies must wait days to RP?
Agrigento
17-11-2003, 02:52
Oh good lord, could we not have kept this somewhat small and manageable? We don't need another World War (in fact there's one going on right now if I'm correct). How many countries do you need on your side? Also, how is it that all of their forces and planes are magically in my waters, but my allies must wait days to RP?

My ships are still en-route, but will be there shortly, considering we are reasonably close.
East Islandia
17-11-2003, 02:53
Theres no magic involved... its called being close in to ur enemy and having supersonic craft and missiles
Artitsa
17-11-2003, 02:54
As are mine. But these other nations who joined later have magically appeared. It takes time for fleets to arrive!
Pissed off Americans
17-11-2003, 02:54
OOC I never SAID my forces where in your waters but you do have several fleets en route to Phyrric!
17-11-2003, 02:55
Theres no magic involved... its called being close in to ur enemy and having supersonic craft and missilesSuipersonic ships? Uhmm NO FUTURE TECH!
Unum Veritas
17-11-2003, 02:56
Theres no magic involved... its called being close in to ur enemy and having supersonic craft and missiles

Supersonic aircraft use up quite a bit of fuel and such....they wouldn't be able to carry out attacks, unless you have supersonic tankers and planes that can tank at Mach 1+, in which case you cannot use them in this modern-tech RP.
Artitsa
17-11-2003, 02:57
Theres no magic involved... its called being close in to ur enemy and having supersonic craft and missilesSuipersonic ships? Uhmm NO FUTURE TECH!

...also, aren't you fighting Japann as well? It does take alot to organize two attacks against two seperate nations that are not involved together whatsoever...
East Islandia
17-11-2003, 02:57
supersonic aircraft and missiles.. i never said my ships were supersonic.

if you noticed, i didnt use my ships yet cuase they're not in range and i dont feel like launching long range weapons. Yet.
Agrigento
17-11-2003, 02:59
Theres no magic involved... its called being close in to ur enemy and having supersonic craft and missilesSuipersonic ships? Uhmm NO FUTURE TECH!

...also, aren't you fighting Japann as well? It does take alot to organize two attacks against two seperate nations that are not involved together whatsoever...

If you notice I have my 2nd fleet deployed in Japann, this is no stretch of logistical lines, as we mantain a rather central position in the Pacific - East Islandia is a neighbor of mine.
Unum Veritas
17-11-2003, 02:59
OOC- this saddens me....all I wanted to do was send some ships to help an ally keep from being invaded. Now all these countries I've never even heard of are attacking me....good lord :?
East Islandia
17-11-2003, 03:00
Yes, Artitsa, i am. but i am diverting very small portions of my fleet to both, and the war in japann centers around air power and special forces actions rather than direct naval actions, which Sino and Red Tide handle.

Um, UV, i have land based aircraft that can reach you. We're both in the Pacific, and even if it takes my ships a while to reach you, myplanes are faster.

And the key is refueling before they go supersonic.
Agrigento
17-11-2003, 03:01
Theres no magic involved... its called being close in to ur enemy and having supersonic craft and missiles

Supersonic aircraft use up quite a bit of fuel and such....they wouldn't be able to carry out attacks, unless you have supersonic tankers and planes that can tank at Mach 1+, in which case you cannot use them in this modern-tech RP.

From the Central pacific??? Hell in the cold war bombers could fly over the North Pole from Russia to America, through Canada and release their payloads...this is no Stretch.
Artitsa
17-11-2003, 03:02
Yes, Artitsa, i am. but i am diverting very small portions of my fleet to both, and the war in japann centers around air power and special forces actions rather than direct naval actions, which Sino and Red Tide handle.

Um, UV, i have land based aircraft that can reach you. We're both in the Pacific, and even if it takes my ships a while to reach you, myplanes are faster.

And the key is refueling before they go supersonic.

Oh Ok.

However, think of all the nations you might be flying over...
17-11-2003, 03:03
DT has requested assistance, so i shall send the 4th, 9th, and 23rd fleets to his aid.

Each fleet consists of the following:

4x Nimitz class aircraft carrier
1x Red Dragon class Super carrier
10x WASP landing ships
26x Oliver Perry Class Frigates
22x KIDD class Destroyers
15x Ticonderoga class Cruisers
13x Aleigh Burke Class Destroyers
3x Missouri class battle ships
11x Seawolf class Fast attack subs
5x Los Angeles class subs
7x Ohio class subs
14x Viginia class subs
45x Supply ships

These ships were already on alert when all these things started happening.
Unum Veritas
17-11-2003, 03:03
I don't like this RL map stuff....I don't normally use it at all.
Agrigento
17-11-2003, 03:03
However, think of all the nations you might be flying over...

UV is an ISLAND!!!

Lol, unless he is in a rather large lake...I doubt we are flying over anyone.
Pissed off Americans
17-11-2003, 03:04
Geez, ever heard of allies. Phyrric and I have a long standing military relationship
East Islandia
17-11-2003, 03:05
Oh Ok.

However, think of all the nations you might be flying over...

Um... the ocean?
Unum Veritas
17-11-2003, 03:06
Thank you very much Ardor....they've basically ignored a vast majority of my naval forces (although its okay for them to have multiple fleets) so I need all the help I can get.

But you know what? F*** them. I'm not goign to do away with my military just because they say it doesn't exist. If they don't like it they can leave. The 4 carrier battle groups currently in UV waters will soon be augmented by the 4 other groups that were patrolling regional waters. All other UV fleets have been given steaming orders to return to their home bases (except the 4 at DT).
Phyrric
17-11-2003, 03:06
OOC- this saddens me....all I wanted to do was send some ships to help an ally keep from being invaded. Now all these countries I've never even heard of are attacking me....good lord :?

You were asked to back down but chose not to. Many of these nations are very loyal and close allies of Phyrric and/or Agrigento. Chose your friends wisely is the lesson learned. Still time to sue for peace....but your choice, I guess from the actions that death is the option.
Artitsa
17-11-2003, 03:09
There are several thousand countries in NS. Even in the pacific you are bound to fly over one.
Unum Veritas
17-11-2003, 03:09
OOC- this saddens me....all I wanted to do was send some ships to help an ally keep from being invaded. Now all these countries I've never even heard of are attacking me....good lord :?

You were asked to back down but chose not to. Many of these nations are very loyal and close allies of Phyrric and/or Agrigento. Chose your friends wisely is the lesson learned. Still time to sue for peace....but your choice, I guess from the actions that death is the option.

I was not asked to back down! I sent some ships to help DT, then suddenly you appeared talking about jailing my diplomats. Then you make this thread, saying your ships were already in my waters. Now, if we wish to end this then you and I can discuss this on AIM or something. I'm willing to make some concessions.
East Islandia
17-11-2003, 03:10
There are several thousand countries in NS. Even in the pacific you are bound to fly over one.

hmm.. well i guess we could apologize and fly faster.
and then make up for it later somehow
Agrigento
17-11-2003, 03:11
There are several thousand countries in NS. Even in the pacific you are bound to fly over one.

Using that logic you cannot travel anywhere...the NS Earth is several magnitudes greater than RL earth, and even then these distances are all very vague. Such bombings are completely acceptable, and we do not care about infringing on the air space of the Mer People, bc Mermaids do not have Air to Air missiles.
Artitsa
17-11-2003, 03:12
There are several thousand countries in NS. Even in the pacific you are bound to fly over one.

hmm.. well i guess we could apologize and fly faster.
and then make up for it later somehow

just as long as you recognize you may fly over another country. Oh well who cares! 1 day left until my fleet arrives.
Phyrric
17-11-2003, 03:12
What are your losses from my Navy surface and submarine attacks there UV? You were attacked by a very large overwhelming force there and that was just me, 8 carrier groups are attacking your 4.
East Islandia
17-11-2003, 03:12
wait whos side is Artitsa on?
Phyrric
17-11-2003, 03:13
wait whos side is Artitsa on?

the dead meat side
Agrigento
17-11-2003, 03:14
The 1st Fleet just has made first radar contact with Phyrric surface ships.

Soon we shall be within range of enemy forces. CAP is being flown by Combattente Maritime Multirole Fighter Aircraft supported by Super Hawkeye AWAC's aircraft.
Artitsa
17-11-2003, 03:16
wait whos side is Artitsa on?

the dead meat side

yeah that one!
Unum Veritas
17-11-2003, 03:17
What are your losses from my Navy surface and submarine attacks there UV? You were attacked by a very large overwhelming force there and that was just me, 8 carrier groups are attacking your 4.

I love how you are allowed to have 8 CBG's in my water very quickly, but somehow I'm only allowed to have 4. But anyways, as I said I have 4 others augmenting my previous 4 as we speak, and several others on the way.

I lost 3 X-29's, 4 F-22's, and 1 UV-00 in the air battle. I lost 1 ASW frigate, and another is rather badly damaged. Now, how about the attack my 2 groups launched against your forces w/ submarines and jets?
Unum Veritas
17-11-2003, 03:20
The 4 groups running patrol throughout the region have reported in with the previous 4 groups. the new arrivals are behind Phyrric forces, effectively surrounding them, with 2 groups on each side, 4 behind, and land off in front. Twenty Sea Shadow assault ships from the new CBG's have begun moving forward to attack Phyrric forces (these ships are highly stealthy, designed to sneak up on enemy forces, attack, and then disappear again). The assault ships have fired a compliment of torpedoes and anti-ship missiles towards Phyrric's forces.
East Islandia
17-11-2003, 03:20
EI naval ships have made radiocontact with AG ships.

EH9s keep up probing attacks, seeking weaknesses in the UV air defense line.

the Zhou class ballistic missile submarine Mandate fires several LACMs (loaded with conventional munitions) at UV industrial centers.
Unum Veritas
17-11-2003, 03:24
Shore battery facilities have been ordered to open firing. Harpoon and Excocet anti-ship missiles have been fired towards incoming enemy ships. AA batteries have been erected around major cities and facilities to augment the permanent ones. Brahmos missiles have been fired from further inland at the enemy ships. The AA batteries have begun to engage the EI jets on the coast.
Unum Veritas
17-11-2003, 03:25
In all honesty, i would prefer to keep this smaller so that there's less to keep up with. Maybe 2 or 3 countries per side and that's it?
Phyrric
17-11-2003, 03:25
ooc: I will be on and off periodically to check for updated post and the like, got to check out that Dallas/New England game unto which I am torn over who wins since I cannot stand Dallas and a Miami fan.....ugh

be patient please :wink:
East Islandia
17-11-2003, 03:27
Y dont we post the sides so far to make it easier and see who we'll ask to leave?
***

Two J34 strike planes have been downed as a result of UV's AA fire... several more have been damaged, as they were caught unawares and their commanders were killed in the resulting crash.

two EH9s sustained heavy damage; one bailed out in the ocean, near EI forces.

Meanwhile, more P-800s have been launched (this time from a safer distance) and are headed towards UV's AA and Antiship batteries.
Unum Veritas
17-11-2003, 03:29
Okay, I'm off for the night. I suppose we can continue this tomorrow. Goodnight all!
Agrigento
17-11-2003, 03:30
An Orrizonte class Frigate, was the first and only ship of the fleet to be targeted by enemy missiles, as it was far foward of the rest of the force.

"Vampires, Vampires! We have 3 enemy missiles incoming. They look like harpoons."

And so it begins...., thought the Captain, "Prepare countermeasures, fire Chaff and launch missiles."

"Aye, aye sir."

3 Aster-30 SAM's were fired at each incoming missile. Disengaging from their first stages and entering active guidance they quickly find their targets and detonate. The enemy missiles are destroyed.

ooc: Goodnight UV. Just wanted to get my beak wet with the above post.
Phyrric
17-11-2003, 03:37
allies will be posted on front page shortly
Nianacio
17-11-2003, 03:45
Nianacio will be watching this situation.
OOC: So I guess you could consider this a long tag...I'll stay out of it because you guys seem to think it's too big already.
Ever heard of the Arsenal ship?>Nice to see that you only say stealth ships are worthless when they're being used against you...
Dont like it? LEAVE!Leaving is not a solution. It's avoiding the problem.
*speaks very slowly so that Agrigento can, perhaps, understand*

I had 8 battle groups at DT. 4 were sent to Phyrric. 4-8=4. 4 are left in DT. Not all of my forces were in DT. Those that were not, are still at UV.Nope.
That's only 12 groups which is possible since i spend almost exclusively on navy...Before you said you spend exclusively on the navy. :?
However, think of all the nations you might be flying over...They might be flying over eastern Nianacio...then again, maybe not...
wait whos side is Artitsa on?

the dead meat side

yeah that one!
:lol:
I was not asked to back down!
Transmittal sent to the Nation of Unum Veritas
Subject: Conditions of Surrender

1. To sever all military treaty ties with the Nation of Dark Terror.
A. Remove all forces from the Region of Ardor
B. Sign conditions of peace with the Nation of Fluffywuffy

2. To downsize the military force of the Nation of Unum Veritas as agreed upon by the Entete of Phyrric, Agrigento, Skepticism and Fluffywuffy.
A. Capital ships shall not exceed the amount of twenty (20) for the Nation of Unum Veritas. The armed forces of Unum Veritas shall not exceed the amount of 1 million enlisted, officer, reserve and active duty support personnel. Military bases shall be downsized and reduced to effective enable Unum Veritas to defend itself only if the need arises.
B. Unum Veritas shall never, under any circumstance, perform any act of agression towards another Nation for the sole purpose of treaty obligations, imperialism, or any other reason that might entail harm to another Nation.

3. To establish a Most Favored Nation trade obligation to the Nations of Phyrric, Agrigento, Skepticism, and Fluffywuffy.
A. There shall never be any tariffs or taxes imposed upon the said four (4) Nations by the Nation of Unum Veritas
B. There shall be no reparations paid to Phyrric, Agrigento, or Skepticism. There shall, however, be an amount of the cost of the attack made upon the Nation of Fluffywuffy for any and all damages made to units owned and operated by the Nation of Fluffywuffy performed by the Nation of Unum Veritas.
C. This trade agreement cannot be cancelled by the Nation of Unum Veritas for any reason other than a breach of duties or a forfeiture by any or all of the Guardians of this treay.
a. The guardians of this treaty are hereby recognized as the Nations of Phyrric, Agrigento, Skepticism, and Fluffywuffy.
b. No guardian can be replaced for any reason. If a said guardian wishes to resign its duties, that will break the treaty obligation with that said Nation only.

4. There are to be no military bases established within the Nation of Unum Veritas or any territories occupied by the Nation of Unum Veritas by the Guardians of this Treaty. There are conditions of the military bases.
A. If the actions of Unum Veritas threaten or harass another Nation as defined in section 2 of this treaty, Unum Veritas will be immediately occupied without question and military bases will henceforth be enforced at the discretion of the Guardians of this Treaty.
B. Embassies within the Nation of Unum Veritas will be authorized a military garrison by the Guardians for the purpose of maintaining and enforcing this treaty until such a time that peace is established and friendship terms are proven by the Nation of Unum Veritas.
a. The military garrison shall not exceed 1000 miltary personnel by each of the said Guardians.
b. Any assault or attack upon the said embassies by the Nation of Unum Veritas will be intrepreted as an act of war against all the said Guardians.

5. The Nation of Unum Veritas shall immediately withdrawal from any and all alliances that henceforth promote imperialism, violent acts against personal freedoms, oppression, and any other unjust cause that might be interpreted as a hostile organization that promotes such actions.

6. The Nation of Unum Veritas shall submit reports of activities and military numbers to the Nation of Phyrric who shall, in return, report to the other said Nations of the Guardians of this treay. Inspectors from each and any of the Guardians shall be authorized to enter the Nation of Unum veritas to validate such a report when it is deemed necessary to do so. This report shall be submitted no later than the 25th day of July for each and every successive year that this Treaty shall be in effect.

7. This Treaty is to be in effect for a period of no less than 99 years.

CC: Agrigento, Skepticim, Fluffywuffy
Artitsa
17-11-2003, 03:48
ooc: off to bed with me as well. This is shaping up to be a actually good RP. My fleet will arrive tomarrow.
Pissed off Americans
17-11-2003, 04:10
HALO 1 (P-3 Orion) "Reagan, this HALO 1 over"

Reagan (CIC) "HALO 1 Reagan send it"

HALO 1 "Contact, Bearing 385. Large Task force. 4+ carriers and escorts. moving at flank speed over"

Reagan (CIC) "good copy HALO 1, Reagan out"

inside the Reagan CIC. "Looks like we found 'em people, stay alert and advise FLTHQ. BATTLE STATIONS, ALL HANDS BATTLE STATIONS!"
Edolia
17-11-2003, 04:28
Moving to support our ally Phyrric, we are sending the following fleet to be placed under the command of Phyrric commanders:

6 Imperium class Aircraft Carriers (60 planes each)
12 Himelburg class Aircraft Carriers (12 VTOL planes each)
11 Blatterschplitt class Arsenal Ships (550 VSL cells)
16 Gerburg class Arsenal Ships (150 VSL cells)
20 Pythonia-SSD (surface to surface destroyer)
20 Pythonia-SAD (surface to air destroyer)
14 Pythonia-ASD (anti submarine destroyer)
10 Pythonia-SBD (surface bombardment destroyer)
40 Landia Long-Range Missile/Patrol Boats
6 Imperatrix class Missile Boat Carriers
90 AXD-1 Surface-to-Surface Missile Boats
90 AXD-2 Surface-to-Air Missile Boats
60 AXD-3 Anti-Submarine Patrol Boats
60 AXD-4 Fleet Defense Missile Boats
20 Lavernia Nuclear Attack Submarines
15 Nanaki Nuclear Missile Submarines

The following fighters are based on the aircraft carriers:
180 YT/A-2 Hellions unmanned fighter/interceptors
180 PT/A-1 Scarab unmanned fighter/bombers
72 YT/C-2 Hellion VTOLs
72 PT/C-1 Scarab VTOLs

Each Pythonia-ASD carries two Gryphon-2S anti-submarine attack helicopter.

<<OOC: Some notes on Edolian weaponry:

All Edolian ships except for the arsenals (and of course the subs) have trimaran hulls. This gives them increased stability in the water, better protection against torpedos and lower radar profiles. All ships are build with enclosed, sloping hulls which give them very lower radar profiles.

Edolian fighters are unmanned and remote-controlled from bunkers in the Motherland. They are expensive but extremely maneuverable and because they are equipped with scramjets, very fast. They are approximately 2013 tech but if this is being played at a lower tech level, they can have regular engines instead of scramjets. Questions regarding their tech should be sent to me via telegram. I can send some articles if you would like that should be able to help (I don't have the urls on hand but I could dig them up if necessary).

Arsenal ships are low-profile, stealthy floating missile tubes. They carry a large array of surface-to-surface missiles that can be fired off very quickly if necessary.

Sorry I can't control this. I promised Phyrric I'd send forces to help out but I don't have time to do this RP so they're under his command.

Good luck.>>
Artitsa
17-11-2003, 04:31
Are you going to limit the amount of your allies any time soon?
Phyrric
17-11-2003, 04:43
Are you going to limit the amount of your allies any time soon?

I am too lazy to dig it up at this time, but I believe a Nation stated that they are going to call all 8 of their allies to kill Phyrric. I offered to raise it. As far as limiting my allies, you have no idea what is not posting or staying dormant. Once UV sues for the peace that is emminent, I did warn you about the annexation for not staying away, be prepared, Artitsa is next.
Artitsa
17-11-2003, 04:45
You can call me a Godmodder all you want, but the Artitsan Government is prepared to use its Nuclear Aresenal to prevent annexation.
Agrigento
17-11-2003, 04:57
You can call me a Godmodder all you want, but the Artitsan Government is prepared to use its Nuclear Aresenal to prevent annexation.

Thats not a godmod, its just suicidal.
Pissed off Americans
17-11-2003, 05:05
just to clarify my fleet at sea. 8 CBG's and 1 BBG

1 CBG= 2 Nimitz class Carriers, 6 Guided Missle Crusiers(Ageis), 8 Destoryers, 12 Frigates, 8 Aux, 10 SSN (Seawolf Class)

1 BBG= 1 Battleship (Iowa Class) 4 Guided Missile Crusiers, 6 Destoyers
8 Frigates, 1 SSBN (Ohio), 2 SSN (LA Class), 2 Aux

Carrier Air Wings consist of
28 F-14D
3 E-2 Hawkeye
26 F/A-35 JSF(Navy)
20 F/A-18 (Marine)
8 A-6 (refuelers)
12 SH-60 (ASW SAR)
8 E/A-6B (Electronic Warfare)
Phyrric
17-11-2003, 05:15
You can call me a Godmodder all you want, but the Artitsan Government is prepared to use its Nuclear Aresenal to prevent annexation.

I think that would be suicidal. I treat my citizens very well. Not sure what would get through my SDI:

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=75957&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=

It explains itself. Nation like Bisons and Dark Terror (same person different name) inspired me to put up a defensive posture against nukes. Advantages of being around for a little while.
Agrigento
17-11-2003, 05:18
ooc: To bed I go, tom. we shall continue.
Phyrric
17-11-2003, 05:22
ooc: To bed I go, tom. we shall continue.

most certainly agreed, several off in bed already and I am going to go screw off (oops, umm, mess around?) for a few hours and signing off.
Pauldustllah
17-11-2003, 05:22
OOC:Pauldustllah will support Phyrric in this battle
IC:Offical News Network Pauldustllah
AP- Today the Emperor gave the go ahead to deploy troops to fight along side our longstanding Allie Phyrric the number of troops deployed will be the largest ammount allowed under the International troop deployment Clause in the law books in Pauldustllah the total beign 270,000 combat soldiers(810,000 after totallign in support) they will be sent to Phyrric and then be giving orders as to where they are needed. they should be arriving within 5 days
Eris Kallisti
17-11-2003, 06:50
((OOC: Phyrric, let me know what's happening so far. This thread is extreamly long to read all the way through. I just need a brief rundown))

The Empire of Eris Kallisti is willing to help its long time ally Phyrric in his time of need. We suggest that the opposing nations stand down or suffer the consequences. Eris Kallisti has many allies, and will not hesitate to call on them. Do your homework, and be warned.

http://www.cybersluagh.com/ErisKallisti/pavis.jpg
General Pavis Noir, KSC
Head of The Kallistian Millitary
The Empire of Eris Kallisti (http://www.cybersluagh.com/ErisKallisti)


*The Kallistian forces have already started gathering, and are preparing to leave Kallistain waters. They are prepared to contact Kotterdam, Defacto Russia and Fernando Po if nessicary*(sp?)
Pissed off Americans
17-11-2003, 07:01
All RPA Forces (homeland and abroad) report REDCON 1 as of 1117032302MST
Phyrric
17-11-2003, 07:04
ooc: last post for the night, will be on tomorrow roughly 4ish MDT.

Damage is light from the continuous battle as jets race in and out of action. The cat and mouse game is underway and not a way that needs to be done with the PRN.

"Force the engagement, close the BBG's, CGN's, DDG's, SSN's and SSBN's with the frontal fleet from Unum Veritas. Set the FFG's on a tactical defensive position to cover the Carriers. I want full ASW in effect for maximum protect from subs. If an enemy torpedo enters the water, I want the ass of the person that fired it!" fires the Admiral.

"I want continuous air cover of naval units, all pilots are to double their flight times and sink everything of our enemies that is sinkable, kill all enemy aircraft that is capable of being airborn."

The fire control station of BBG 85, 86, 87, 88 all target a carrier, the massive 16" rise and an impressive flash of heat is expelled from the forward mounts as the Battleships close the range with their escorts. Launch bays are open and missiles come spitting out with such anger that a smoke screen is forming around the Phyrric fleet.

The sound of the CIWS is constant as aircraft is targeted and missiles are ripped apart in the air right above the fleets.

"This is the Glory we all read and wish for shipmates, this is living history, a Naval confrontation that Historians only wish to see and few get to tell the tale about." grunts a petty officer and he is manning his battlestation in the 8" turret on the port side of BBG 86 Isle of Pyrrhus.

Losses from prior attack was an FFG that screened a torpedo attack, 2 F14 and 1 F18
imported_Skepticism
17-11-2003, 13:30
The captain of the flagship USSS The People looked through his pseudo-periscope and smiled.

"As you said it would be, Admiral. The UV forces have got the Phyrric forces between the anvil and the hammer. Also some Agrigentoan forces appear to be engaged somewhere, but as we've been going quietly, we're not quite sure yet."

Admiral Pertand nodded. "The Phyrric forces are pretty badly outnumbered, especially in the airplane department. They will not be able to take too much of being caught in the crossfire of sixteen carrier's worth of ordinance. If this turns into a straightforward battle, UV will sweep the seas.

"But this will in no way in hell be a straightforward battle. I suspect that the UV admirals will have forgotten we even entered this war in the first place...let's see how they react. ALL SHIPS, FULL ALERT!"

The USSS ships had arrived at the rendezvous with Phyrric fleet elements bare hours before the UV carrier groups from DT came within striking distance. Deciding to form a rearguard, instead of providing an even better clumped target, the USSS fleet deployed camoflage tarps (basically large plastic sheets connected to buoys deployed around the hull, with a hologram generator to make it look like the surrounding sea, designed to look like a big wave on radar) and shut everything down. And now, even as the UV forces started to hit Phyrric's ships with missiles, the lethal USSS battleships were incredibly close...

At Pertand's order all ships severed the buoy cables and brought all systems up to full power. Instantly the infrared communications bands became thick with transmissions. Enemy radar found them immediately; it was inevitable. But knowing the enemy was there and being able to do something about it were two different beasts. The lethal USSS battleships, armed with massive, coordinated cannon and armored heavily enough to withstand the pounding of a carrier's entire air arm (if you get really lucky and they don't attack too long, that is), had targets of opportunity the likes of which most captains only dream of. As one, the USSS fleet surged forward.

Pirahna fighters claw towards the sky from the carriers hanging back, protected by a contingent of ASW destroyers; the rest of the fleet charges to battle.

"All battleship, tie into the central fire computer and get ready to give 'em hell. We've already pinpointed the ones we think are carriers; give them a couple volleys first. With luck, we get a few nice hits through the runway and blow them to hell and gone, or at least keep their planes grounded. Cruiser group Lal, accelerate to full speed and slam through their pickets to the heart of the fleet. Sow confusion, shoot up everything; especially those damn missile-defense cruisers that have nothing for armor and will keep our friends from being able to help us out. Battleship, form up in wedge and start the pounding. All SAMs are loose; everyone keep up strong IFF so we don't hurt ourselves. Those battleships which received the...special...shells, make sure to arm them. They may become necessary, after all. Also make sure that boarding towers are enabled. I know that our practice with them has been less than perfect, but in a fight like this we can't afford to go out without every bullet in the chamber.

"Fight, my friends! For Skepticism, and the Union, and all the people in our country and the world who must resist the tyranny and terror of those who would destroy it -- Dark Terror and his ilk. If we all die, so be it, for we die with courage and honor, doing a righteous and noble duty. BUT WE SHALL NOT ALL DIE HERE, RATHER WE SHALL PRESIDE OVER THE FLOATING WRECKAGE OF OUR ENEMY AND CELEBRATE GREAT VICTORY! Attack, brothers and sisters! ATTACK!" Pertand exhorted the crews. The choice had been made. Now to see where it led.

OOC: I agree that limiting this in scale somewhat would be a good idea, but do not know who should be forced out. *shrug*

We will be back hopefully often enough today to keep this alive. It seems to be OK so far, especially when UV posts. You're much less aggrevating than DT to fight ;)
Artitsa
17-11-2003, 13:52
You can call me a Godmodder all you want, but the Artitsan Government is prepared to use its Nuclear Aresenal to prevent annexation.

I think that would be suicidal. I treat my citizens very well. Not sure what would get through my SDI:

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=75957&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=

It explains itself. Nation like Bisons and Dark Terror (same person different name) inspired me to put up a defensive posture against nukes. Advantages of being around for a little while.

You missinterperet. I would not hit your homeland.
I would hit your Naval forces that are attacking. Thus the joys of a Tactical nuke. There are several ways of achieving this including a man in a small wooden raft.
17-11-2003, 20:19
With the help of UV ground controllers, and several air assests, the first Empire squadrons have landed in UV bases after playing a cat-and-mouse game with gathering invasion forces. This hide-and-seek game lasted for almost half an hour as the Empire squadrons searched for a relatively lightly guarded section of the UV coast to enter. So far, there are 5 Empire squadrons or air-superiority fighters in UV, with more to quickly follow. (ooc: 1 squad = 24 planes)

The Battle Fleets are steaming ahead, and should be within UV territory shortly to reinforce the Veritasian navy.

ETA: approx. 5 hours RL
17-11-2003, 21:06
geforce will be sending 70 Iskra Fast attack Guided Missile Frigates 25 Vodopad Heavy Missile Cruisers and 20 light carrier battle groups to aid Unum Veritas.


(i gotta go now ill be back later)
17-11-2003, 21:13
Dark Terror has asked all countries supporting us with naval units to redirect aid to Unum Veritas, if the need arises we can let fluffywuffy blockade us and send our own fleet to aid UV by escaping.

OOC:
And Niancio, where did I say arsenal ship couldnt be targetted?! I said it could carry 500 missiles, not that it was invisible!
Arribastan
17-11-2003, 21:18
At DT's request, we will redirect our naval forces to defend Unum Veritas. they are as follows:
3 Super carrier battle groups, each consisting of:
10 cruisers
10 frigates
15 destroyers
30 tankers
1 Battleship
2 carriers, each with:
40 su37K carrier launch fighters
5 sea stallion helos
10 F/A 18E hornets
10 Prowlers
10 Intruders
10 Hawkeyes
1 super carrier with:
40 su37K carrier launch fighters
40 F/A 18 hornets
10 prowlers
5 Intruders
10 Hawkeyes
5 Sea stallions
9 modified wasp, with
20 Sea Stallions
2,000 marines.
30 LSDs. (not involved with wasp) each with:
5 Abrams
10 modified hummers
and
50 Seawolf subs
17-11-2003, 21:19
OOC:
Arribastan is a ressurected june naiton, he forgot to post that.

A bit much submarines, frigates, and destroyers, unless all you have is a navy.
Arribastan
17-11-2003, 21:26
OOC:
Arribastan is a ressurected june naiton, he forgot to post that.

A bit much submarines, frigates, and destroyers, unless all you have is a navy.
OOC: Damn, i periodically seem to forget to post that. :x thanks, DT :wink:
and that is 75% of my navy, which, being mosly based on my series of islands, is my main force
17-11-2003, 21:31
OOC:
Still, IMO you should cut down a bit on the destroyers, frigates, and subs (like post that as the total force youre sending, not 3 groups where each one has that much, well add a few carriers). Besides, Ohios are only good for nuking people, and shouldnt be sent into battles.
Arribastan
17-11-2003, 21:36
OOC: i fixed it, but Nimitzes used to have their own Battlegroups until i grouped 2 with a supercarrier and then i had 3 times normal amounts of fleet protection ships. just forgot that when i lumped them. I'll just make a shore bombardment group 8)
17-11-2003, 21:39
OOC:
Now just reduce the amount of subs threefold..
Arribastan
17-11-2003, 21:40
I just sent 25% of my seawolfs
Nianacio
17-11-2003, 21:41
OOC:
And Niancio, where did I say arsenal ship couldnt be targetted?! I said it could carry 500 missiles, not that it was invisible!:roll: I never said you said that...
17-11-2003, 21:43
OOC:
And Niancio, where did I say arsenal ship couldnt be targetted?! I said it could carry 500 missiles, not that it was invisible!:roll: I never said you said that...OOC:
I never said arsenal ship was some uber stealthy ship of doom, I said it could hold 500 missiles. You made a post about me saying my allies could have invisible stealth ships while my attackers couldnt.
Nianacio
17-11-2003, 21:46
OOC:
I never said arsenal ship was some uber stealthy ship of doom, I said it could hold 500 missiles. You made a post about me saying my allies could have invisible stealth ships while my attackers couldnt.:roll: I said nothing about "uber", "doom", or "invisible".
Stealth is not uberness, doom, or invisibility.
And actually, you were not the one who mentioned the 500 missiles. Unum Veritas mentioned stealthy ships with 500 missiles, and to that Phyrric said he'd be able to detect the ships once they fired the missiles, and you said "Ever heard of the Arsenal ship?"
Artitsa
17-11-2003, 22:01
((Ok ok no bickering jeez!))

Artitsa has begun to produce its new Type of carrier, the Pantera class (look here! (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=93614&highlight=))

It has been revealed to the populous, Phyrrics plans to annex Artitsa. Over one hundred thousand men have volunteered for the armed forces. Those who haven't, have begun stockpiling food stuffs for the coming months in prepreation. Almost all able body men have been helping out to build a wall to stretch Artitsa's coast line. Several thousand Anti-Shipping batteries have been set up as well. The people would be ready. In a stirring speech by the President, he has called for his comrades and brothers to come to the aide of not only their allies, but Artitsa itself. He asked them to help in anyway they could
17-11-2003, 22:01
OOC:
Then sorry, I though phyrric said no ship could have 500 missiles. Statement retracted, in that case.
imported_Skepticism
17-11-2003, 23:06
OOC: While waiting for UV to return, I thought it would be a good idea to post some specifics about my navy now, to get them out in the clear.

1. All ships except submarines are trimaran design. The benefits of such are many and myriad, but include (much) greater speed, increased durability, higher carrying capacity, a lower center of gravity (important considering such ships as the Ticonderoga with all the radar and missiles far above the water line that make it pretty unstable), and better stability.

2. All of the battleships, carriers, and cruisers are powered with nuclear reactors. This makes them pretty damn fast, at least considering how much armor and arms they're packing ;

3. The Progressive battleships each pack 20 18' cannon (six mounted in triple turrets each fore and aft, along with two double turrets on each of the outriders) and can launch volleys of 50 Orca (Harpoon derivative) rockets. The cruisers carry 12 16' cannon (six double turrets; two each fore and aft, with one on each outrider) as well as 30-rocket volleys. The destroyers carry 12 8' cannon mounted similarly, with a 20-rocket spread. To sum up, they have a freaking huge amount of firepower.

4. All rockets and the cannon are aimed via a complex targeting system which ties together all of the ships' radars, as well as any additional targeting data within range of the infrared transmission system (subs, planes, UAV's, etc). This allows for remarkable accuracy, especially with the rockets, as well as rapid and deadly counterbattery fire.

5. All ships communicate over the infrared spectrum as much as possible; the transmission, while somewhat weak and short-ranged, cannot be intercepted unless you are closer to those 18' cannon than you want to be.

6. All of the battleships and most of the cruisers (as well as some destroyers) are equipped with tungsten ramming "beaks" projecting somewhat above and below the waterline. Also all battleships and cruisers come with boarding "towers," which consist of a system of grapples fired onto an ajacent vessel, onto which sledges transporting USSS Marines are sent across to swarm and hopefully occupy the enemy vessel.

7. Close-in air defense is murderous. Not only are all ships equipped with SAMs, but several more creative devices: rocket-propelled flat steel cables with parachutes are launched high into the atmosphere, shredding the wings of any plane unfortunate to get caught in them; fist-sized metal chunks also containing parachutes can be launched both from the deck defense and cannon of the ships, causing great damage to any plane that hits them at high speed and destroying any jet engine that sucks them in; the cannon themselves can be loaded with enormous shotgun shells, more or less, and shoot skeet. Of course all this poses a great danger to our own planes, as well, but that is the risk you take...

8. All USSS ships are heavily armored. We're not talking tissue-thin crap like modern missile cruisers -- these are old-school, huge-ass ships covered with belts of chobham armor. Combined with the outriggers' ability to defect blast from the ship's heart, extreme missile and plane defense, and said armor, USSS ships are very difficult to destroy.

That's all I can think of now...just didn't want it to be a surprise when some weird stuff starts happening :P
United Elias
17-11-2003, 23:20
OOC:DT has asked me to help UV but first can someone give be a fair and objective summary of what has happened.
17-11-2003, 23:27
OOC:DT has asked me to help UV but first can someone give be a fair and objective summary of what has happened.
OOC:
Naval slugfest off UV's coast, with hundreds of ships on both sides. A few minor engagements.
Unum Veritas
17-11-2003, 23:30
OOC-I have decided to RP with my full naval force whether Phyrric likes it or not, so if you have any arguements save it for someone who cares. My navy is actually quite large, seeing as how it is the regional military and only 4 nations in my region actually have a military. All the other countries' citizens who wish to join the military can join my navy, so I have the number of people and the economy to support it. Also, Phyrric, you're a bit lite on the damages aren't you? I had Sea Shadows, shore-based rockets, jets, and subs attack you and you lost 1 ship and 3 aircraft? This RP is not going to go very far if you keep RPing losses like that. Now, thus far I have 8 CBG's in the area, with another 8 closing in on the conflict soon. Phyrric's naval forces are surrounded by my 8 groups, with Skepticism's forces forming a rearguard.

IC:
*The rear UV force of 4 CBG's, behind Phyrric and Skepticism's forces*

"Sir, a group has separated from Phyrric's main forces!" an ensign exclaimed aboard the UVS Alegria (command ship of the 4 CBG's behind Phyrric's forces).
"Damn, that must be the Skepticism ships, I'd forgot about those. Very well, I want damage reports from the Sea Shadow attack as soon as you can get them to me. Now, its time to unleash our Visby Corvettes. Move them forward and have them send some torpedoes at this rear guard. Send in ten LA class subs and have them target the largest ships in Skepticism's forces. Also, call Central Command and have them direct the shore batteries at the center of Phyrric's forces. Tell them to use ballistic paths."

*The UV force of 2 CBG's on the right of Phyrric and Skepticism's forces*

"Massive incoming of jets, sir."
"Very well," Commodore Marlow replied, "have the AEGIS ships throw up their AA screen. Send up more F-14E's, some X-29's, and Archangels."
"Aye aye sir."

Two minutes later, the sound of jets streaking off the carriers reached the command ship and the officers in the CIC watched their radar screens with baited breath.

*The 8 arriving UV CBG's have been ordered to turn away from the conflict and hold off any incoming enemy force.*

The Veritasean Government also wishes to thank all those nations who have come to our aid, all arriving allied forces will be given the best of treatment.
Artitsa
17-11-2003, 23:34
The Artitsan expedition fleet is only hours from contact.
Unum Veritas
17-11-2003, 23:41
OOC:DT has asked me to help UV but first can someone give be a fair and objective summary of what has happened.

Basically I sent some ships to help DT my ally from being invaded, and Phyrric appeared out of nowhere claiming to jail my diplomats. I pointed out that I'd never RPed having an embassy in his country. He took this as a sign of war and sent his forces at my country. His goal was to pull allied forces away from DT and give Fluffywuffy a better chance. Basically he shifted the focal point of the conflict to my nation.

Artitsa, we eagerly await all friendly forces. How you choose to deploy them is your own affair, however be advised that as of now Phyrric's forces and Skeptisicm's are surrounded by my own naval assets, and I have 8 CBG's preparing to intercept any incoming enemy forces.

Diagram below, X's are enemy forces, O's are friendly

-------------------------

O XX O
O XX O

OO
O O

O O
O O
OOOO
Unum Veritas
17-11-2003, 23:42
That diagram didn't quite work out how it was supposed to...oops
United Elias
17-11-2003, 23:48
OOC:

We will send:

6 Tigershark Diesel Electric Submarines (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2132825#2132825)

4 Akula class submarines.

I havent really got time to RP so can you just assume they latch on to one of your carrier groups. I'll check whats happening probably once a day or something, maybe more if I get time.
imported_Skepticism
17-11-2003, 23:53
OOC: Action! Please forgive me if I go to far in describing what happens...naval battles are a new experience for me.

Also we accept UV having his full forces in the area, given that our forces also got to the area from DT's shore in only slightly less time than his. Makes sense, no?

IC: Admiral Pertand studied the enemy fleet movements from the command center located in the depths of USSS battleship The People. His initial scowl soon turned into a predatory grin.

"Sending corvettes at us? What the hell are they thinking?" Pertand shook his head. "Well, if they want to give us a freebie or two, let 'em. All battleships, weapons free. Groups 2, 6, and 10, remember to keep the skeet loaded in fore turrets in the event of Case Blue. Everyone else...give 'em hell!"

The grinding of the turrets coming to bear could hardly be heard over the blazing klaxons. The enormous bellows as the eighteen-inch cannon fired, however, could not be mistaken. The first volley of 200 shells soared through the air to their apex, where, as they tipped over, spring-loaded fins popped into position. Guided by the combined radar imput of almost one hundred ships, they could hardly miss, raining down upon the corvettes racing towards the USSS wedge.

Several of the shells, however, strangely missed, by bizarre amounts. What's more, the shells then failed to detonate. Any spectator would assume that the USSS had produced an absolutely dud bunch of munitions. As the modified ammuntion drifted through the water, however, its purpose became apparent. At set depths, each began pounding out full active sonar, as long and as hard as the contained batteries would permit, sending their information to the waiting surface ships. Almost immediately the rear line of battleships salvoed again, raining artillery-deployed depth charges straight into the path of the incoming subs. However tough the USSS vessels may be, they could not long withstand pounding by torpedos and close-in rockets.

The aircraft still launching from the carriers take a high holding pattern, seemingly content to keep any enemy jets from attacking their ships. On the other hand, knowing Pertand, they could also be waiting for some nasty surprise.

The Manta subs, hoping that their engine noise becomes lost in the churning of the immense battleship and escort formation, take up defensive positions around the wedge.

Simultaneously, Cruiser Group Lal, consisting of 15 Revolutionary combined arms cruisers and 40 Collective destroyers, accelerates to full speed (for both about 70 knots) in a full charge against the Veritasean battlegroup directly in front of them.

So it begins.
17-11-2003, 23:53
Speech made by President Oladsky (drunk, of course) regarding Phyrric and "the crack addict phyrrus"
"Unum Veritas has its plan of counteracting the invaders, and the main forces of Unum Veritas have not been employed yet! And already you talk about annexing Artitsa, our neighbor to the north?! You think Dark Terror, Ardor, and Artitsa are shitholes with Tzars and bears? Well Ill tell you by a secret, YOU THOUGHT WRONG!"
*Crowd begins louder chanting of "death to Phyrric!* as several more effigies of the Phyrrus are set ablaze*
"There are million of soldiers and thousandsa upon thousands of tanks in Artitsa, and they will rip your arms and legs off, Phyrrus! They will rip off your head and throw your body to the dogs! YOU HEAR ME, PHYRRUS?! Calling you a dog is an insult of the worst degree to dogs! I assure you, Phyrrus, that when once Phyrric soldier sets foot on Artitsan soil, Bisonic, Artitsan, Ardorian, and probably GDU forces will have him running for his life right back out! Already a double envelopment attack against Fluffywuwffy is freeing up the Bisonic Military for aciton against you and your kind! We have not even asked all of our allies for assistance, and look at the situation, dear Phyrrus! The invaders of Dark Terror are being butchered, carrier group upon carrier group is sent from around the world to protect Unum Veritas from your imperialism, and Johnstani warships are heading straight for Fluffywuffy! We are coming for you, phyrrus!"
*The crowd continues burning Phyrric flags and effigies of the phyrrus, while loudly cheering Oladsky's speech*
Agrigento
17-11-2003, 23:57
The UV ships apparently neglected to realize the fact that the 1st fleet was directly behind Phyrric's forces, and seizing their opportunity, the fleet sends in several quick hit and run raids by Nike class Catamaran corvettes, which fire a total of 48 Harpoon missiles in 2 volleys.

The Catamarans, using their high speed and low radar signature made these strikes and then rejoined the fleet.
Artitsa
18-11-2003, 00:06
Two squadrons of SS-101b Dive Bombers come screaming in towards Agrigento's fleet. The Artitsan fleet had arrived. The 24 planes came in low and hard, getting close enough to begin strafing any Aircraft Carriers with 40mm Pak40 fire. (explosive rounds... would tear up anything on deck... especially crew members and waiting planes/ammunition). Several of the planes exploded in bright fireballs from CIWS and SAM systems onboard Agrigento's ships. 6 were lost quickly. As the planes passed over the Carriers, they dropped several 400lb bombs each, several missing their targets, but it was hard for them to miss. (Think WW2 style bombings of carriers). The enemy CIWS whirred into action, downing a further 8 Planes.

(Post your damages, this was an early attack, there will be more.)
Arribastan
18-11-2003, 00:09
40 F/A 18F hornets launch from various Escort carriers, loaded with bombs and Anti-Ship missiles. they are escorted by 240 Su-37K fighters(with small bombs) lifting off from supercarriers. the attack on enemy navy has begun. while this occurs, 10 destroyers, 10 frigates, 2 battleships and 10 cruisers begin to slip in. the Arribastani navy commander, Admiral Johnson, transmits to the other navies this message "begin the attack upon the enemy now." he hopes the others will join in, or this will be futile.
Artitsa
18-11-2003, 00:12
40 F/A 18F hornets launch from various Escort carriers, loaded with bombs and Anti-Ship missiles. they are escorted by 240 Su-37K fighters(with small bombs) lifting off from supercarriers. the attack on enemy navy has begun. while this occurs, 10 destroyers, 10 frigates, 2 battleships and 10 cruisers begin to slip in. the Arribastani navy commander, Admiral Johnson, transmits to the other navies this message "begin the attack upon the enemy now." he hopes the others will join in, or this will be futile.

1. Which side are you on

2. I forgot to mention in my above post, I have jammers running the entire time, -Good jammers too!
Artitsa
18-11-2003, 00:13
--Double Post--
18-11-2003, 00:13
OOC:
Next time, use radar homing missile son your Su-37's. Good for knocking out radars, and when you punch a hole in a "stealth" ship, it is definitely not stealthy anymore!
imported_Skepticism
18-11-2003, 00:13
40 F/A 18F hornets launch from various Escort carriers, loaded with bombs and Anti-Ship missiles. they are escorted by 240 Su-37K fighters(with small bombs) lifting off from supercarriers. the attack on enemy navy has begun. while this occurs, 10 destroyers, 10 frigates, 2 battleships and 10 cruisers begin to slip in. the Arribastani navy commander, Admiral Johnson, transmits to the other navies this message "begin the attack upon the enemy now." he hopes the others will join in, or this will be futile.

OOC: To whom was this aimed?
Artitsa
18-11-2003, 00:15
Im wondering that as well Skepticism!

I'd also like to note my SS-101's were flying almost 50 Feet above the water. Makes it hard for SAMs to get a lock, especially when their being jammed as well. Darn im finding alot of problems with my previous post... thats what happens when you rush it.
Arribastan
18-11-2003, 00:16
We are defending UV, starting a counterattack on Skepticism, to help defend UV.
Agrigento
18-11-2003, 00:19
Two squadrons of SS-101b Dive Bombers come screaming in towards Agrigento's fleet. The Artitsan fleet had arrived. The 24 planes came in low and hard, getting close enough to begin strafing any Aircraft Carriers with 40mm Pak40 fire. (explosive rounds... would tear up anything on deck... especially crew members and waiting planes/ammunition). Several of the planes exploded in bright fireballs from CIWS and SAM systems onboard Agrigento's ships. 6 were lost quickly. As the planes passed over the Carriers, they dropped several 400lb bombs each, several missing their targets, but it was hard for them to miss. (Think WW2 style bombings of carriers). The enemy CIWS whirred into action, downing a further 8 Planes.

(Post your damages, this was an early attack, there will be more.)

ooc: Sorry, but this doesnt seem like it will cause a lot of damage at all, the ships are very heavily defended from air threats, especially by the Orizzonte class Frigates, which carry 48 VLS loaded with Aster30 missiles.

Your planes would not get in range, and even then they did, they would fall very easy prey to the supersonic hit-to-kill Asters.

The fact that you are using WWII strategy in a modern battlefield is evidence enough that this will prove unsuccessful.

ic:

Minimum damage was reported onboard one carrier, which was hit by enemy gun fire, and a frigate was severely damaged when a plane - already incapicitated by a missile - crashed hard into its deck.

Super Hawkeye AWACs aircraft pick up the incoming plane movements of the Arribastan fleet and 6 squadrons of C-3000 Combattente Maritime Multirole fighters are airborne, loaded with AAM's.
imported_Skepticism
18-11-2003, 00:20
Upon hearing of the sudden appearance of Artitsan fighter-bombers over the Agrigento forces, several squadrons of Pirahna all-purpose fighters went to afterburner and rocketed after the remaining ten Artitsan planes, diving from their high holding position to gain even further speed. As soon as they come within decent range, the squads unleash a volley of thirty Swatter air-to-air missiles, which accelerate to Mach 4 and plunge after the retreating enemy. After shooting the USSS planes pull back up and around, having no wish to get stuck in a nightmare of defense systems and superior interceptor aircraft.
imported_Skepticism
18-11-2003, 00:20
An aide sprinted to Admiral Pertand breathlessly. "Sir, enemy fighters coming in fast and low! Not only that, but we have ships coming in! Not too many -- looks like about a dozen each small stuff and a few BS. Still..."

The unperterbable admiral smiled. "Ah, our friends the Arribastards. I had hoped they would harry Phyrric, but no luck. Still...with the forces they are sending, they've got no chance in hell of actually doing any decent damage. Send a few subs in to shake them up, and keep the right side of the formation awake in case their stupid suicide attack actually makes it in."

"Aye, sir!"

Inside, where it didn't show, Pertand frowned. The Lal charge was arguably its own suicide attack, and one more enemy complicated the issue so much more...

"Have the fighters holding high keep holding, but obtain a lock. For some reason the stupid asses aren't using their radar targeting -- if they want to be backwards, though, we'll oblige them. Fire streamers and skeet at them as soon as the range becomes good. They appear to be armed with mostly bombs, so if we sink them out here, no harm done."

Upon hearing this order, three USSS battleships shifted their turrets, took bearing, and fired. Several others launched barrages of "streamer" rockets in their path, forcing them to either move or pray that one of the steel ribbons didn't find its way into their path. A hundred meters or so from the close-knit group, the first six rounds exploded massively, creating an immediate tempest and throwing shrapnel around everywhere. Ten more rounds of case followed, filling the area around the Arribastan planes with thousands of chunks of metal, each enough to bring a plane down.
Arribastan
18-11-2003, 00:21
--post deleted--
Artitsa
18-11-2003, 00:24
SCORE!

Anyways to continue against Agrigento.

Another wave of SS-101b's come speeding in at Agrigento's fleet. There are roughly 40 planes in this wave. As they begin to near, Yakhont cruisemissles are launched from the Artitsan fleet still several miles off. The expected ETA would be the same as when the SS-101's arrived. It would prove to be interesting to see which the defence weapons of Agrigento's fleet targeted. Once again, they were being jammed by the Dive bombers.

((40 SS-101b Dive bombers, and 260 Yakhont Cruisemissles. If you look it up, its been noted that Phalinx CIWS systems do not do well against Russian Cruisemissles, as the 20mm round they fire will not penetrate the armoured head of the missle.))
Artitsa
18-11-2003, 00:24
Um... Arribistan... Im on your side...

And now they would not be perfect targets for CIWS especially when jamming them. By the time they would engage my planes, the 40mm's would have opened up and reaped havock.

The remaining 10 Artitsan Divebombers were downed, unable to get a advantage to fire their Sidewinders.
18-11-2003, 00:27
I am here to say that because i have RL practice for at least 3 hours a day i cant get online so i leave my fleets heading toward UV and they will remain under his control. Any more info requested telegram me.
Agrigento
18-11-2003, 00:30
Um... Arribistan... Im on your side...

And now they would not be perfect targets for CIWS especially when jamming them. By the time they would engage my planes, the 40mm's would have opened up and reaped havock.

The remaining 10 Artitsan Divebombers were downed, unable to get a advantage to fire their Sidewinders.

4 of the 6 Combattente squadrons already airborne move and engage the enemy dive bombers, firing two Meteor (http://www.mbda.net/site/FO/scripts/siteFO_contenu.php?lang=EN&noeu_id=123) AAM missiles at each.

Again Aster30 missiles are fired at the incoming Russian Cruise missiles, 2 to a Vamp, as we say.
18-11-2003, 00:32
geforce will be sending 70 Iskra Fast attack Guided Missile Frigates 25 Vodopad Heavy Missile Cruisers and 20 light carrier battle groups to aid Unum Veritas.


(i gotta go now ill be back later)


i give full control over the above force to UV, each carrier got 40 za-41 Navy aircraft and 10 Kl-55 naval helicopters.
18-11-2003, 00:33
Dont forget ardor sent you this under your command:
DT has requested assistance, so i shall send the 4th, 9th, and 23rd fleets to his aid.

Each fleet consists of the following:

4x Nimitz class aircraft carrier
1x Red Dragon class Super carrier
10x WASP landing ships
26x Oliver Perry Class Frigates
22x KIDD class Destroyers
15x Ticonderoga class Cruisers
13x Aleigh Burke Class Destroyers
3x Missouri class battle ships
11x Seawolf class Fast attack subs
5x Los Angeles class subs
7x Ohio class subs
14x Viginia class subs
45x Supply ships


Sohuld be getting there now..
imported_Skepticism
18-11-2003, 00:35
SCORE!

Anyways to continue against Agrigento.

Another wave of SS-101b's come speeding in at Agrigento's fleet. There are roughly 40 planes in this wave. As they begin to near, Yakhont cruisemissles are launched from the Artitsan fleet still several miles off. The expected ETA would be the same as when the SS-101's arrived. It would prove to be interesting to see which the defence weapons of Agrigento's fleet targeted. Once again, they were being jammed by the Dive bombers.

((40 SS-101b Dive bombers, and 260 Yakhont Cruisemissles. If you look it up, its been noted that Phalinx CIWS systems do not do well against Russian Cruisemissles, as the 20mm round they fire will not penetrate the armoured head of the missle.))

Carefully tracking bearings and utilizing Agrigento targeting data, USSS battleships fire a volley of 30 cruise missiles straight along the vector from which the last group came. The Hammer missiles spread out into a "blooming flower" pattern, allowing the 20 Pirahna fighters, laden with rockets, torpedos, and targeting buoys to take up holding positions. Hopefully, both would be able to complete their mission...
Artitsa
18-11-2003, 00:37
ooc: Sorry, but this doesnt seem like it will cause a lot of damage at all, the ships are very heavily defended from air threats, especially by the Orizzonte class Frigates, which carry 48 VLS loaded with Aster30 missiles.

Your planes would not get in range, and even then they did, they would fall very easy prey to the supersonic hit-to-kill Asters.

The fact that you are using WWII strategy in a modern battlefield is evidence enough that this will prove unsuccessful.

ic:

Minimum damage was reported onboard one carrier, which was hit by enemy gun fire, and a frigate was severely damaged when a plane - already incapicitated by a missile - crashed hard into its deck.

Super Hawkeye AWACs aircraft pick up the incoming plane movements of the Arribastan fleet and 6 squadrons of C-3000 Combattente Maritime Multirole fighters are airborne, loaded with AAM's.

((So your saying your Vertically Launched missles can hit several small targets not far from the ocean and engage them successfully whilst not falling prey to countermeasures, jamming, and guidence controls to prevent the missle from actually hitting the ocean... Theres a reason why they fly so low. Whatever I'll take the damages I can get. My Battleships will make short work of anything you can throw at me. ))

The J-Series Battleships came into range for their big guns within several minutes of launching their first wave of cruisemissles. They aimed their 6 frontal 15" guns and fired, not expecting to hit anything, just checking range. Once range was found, they would launch their guided munitions to help with hits. The escorting Missle Cruisers launched another Yakhont salvo, and the two Carriers prepared their SS-102b Interceptors.
Artitsa
18-11-2003, 00:41
((Damn double posts. I'll use this one to respond to Skept.))

The Command ship picked up the incoming cruisemissles with some difficulty, The Lutjens destroyers were ordered to make a picket and take down any cruisemissle with their Anti-Missile defences. If they got close enough they would be easy pickings for the new Pheonix CIWS. One missle did make it through and hit one of the J-Class battleships in the belt. The Ship rolled slightly but the damage was superficial, and was not enough to bring down the ship. Several crew members were killed or wounded however due to shrapenal. This was considered lucky, had the missle hit anywhere else it might have done more damage.
Agrigento
18-11-2003, 00:49
((So your saying your Vertically Launched missles can hit several small targets not far from the ocean and engage them successfully whilst not falling prey to countermeasures, jamming, and guidence controls to prevent the missle from actually hitting the ocean... Theres a reason why they fly so low. Whatever I'll take the damages I can get. My Battleships will make short work of anything you can throw at me. ))

The J-Series Battleships came into range for their big guns within several minutes of launching their first wave of cruisemissles. They aimed their 6 frontal 15" guns and fired, not expecting to hit anything, just checking range. Once range was found, they would launch their guided munitions to help with hits. The escorting Missle Cruisers launched another Yakhont salvo, and the two Carriers prepared their SS-102b Interceptors.

OOC: Yes, the Aster can indeed due to its pif-paf drive system and you never said you used countermeasures...which is impossible if you fired your missiles from standoff range...and if you fired from closer my Combattente would have intercepted the bombers before they launched.
Artitsa
18-11-2003, 00:52
((So your saying your Vertically Launched missles can hit several small targets not far from the ocean and engage them successfully whilst not falling prey to countermeasures, jamming, and guidence controls to prevent the missle from actually hitting the ocean... Theres a reason why they fly so low. Whatever I'll take the damages I can get. My Battleships will make short work of anything you can throw at me. ))

The J-Series Battleships came into range for their big guns within several minutes of launching their first wave of cruisemissles. They aimed their 6 frontal 15" guns and fired, not expecting to hit anything, just checking range. Once range was found, they would launch their guided munitions to help with hits. The escorting Missle Cruisers launched another Yakhont salvo, and the two Carriers prepared their SS-102b Interceptors.

OOC: Yes, the Aster can indeed due to its pif-paf drive system and you never said you used countermeasures...which is impossible if you fired your missiles from standoff range...and if you fired from closer my Combattente would have intercepted the bombers before they launched.

((ok ok ok! fine! But watch it, you got 40 SS-101bs coming in, WITH COUNTERMEASURES, and 260 Yakhont Cruisemissles. I also fired a salvo from my J-Class cruisers which just came in range, using guided munitions))
imported_Skepticism
18-11-2003, 01:05
((Damn double posts. I'll use this one to respond to Skept.))

The Command ship picked up the incoming cruisemissles with some difficulty, The Lutjens destroyers were ordered to make a picket and take down any cruisemissle with their Anti-Missile defences. If they got close enough they would be easy pickings for the new Pheonix CIWS. One missle did make it through and hit one of the J-Class battleships in the belt. The Ship rolled slightly but the damage was superficial, and was not enough to bring down the ship. Several crew members were killed or wounded however due to shrapenal. This was considered lucky, had the missle hit anywhere else it might have done more damage.

OOC: I used mine for the same purpose. Pretty creative, IMHO ;)

IC: The cruise missile attack made little to no impact, not particularly surprising any of the USSS pilots. After all, they had been targeted heavily, and not aimed at the best target anyway.

But now it was their turn. The twenty Pirahnas of Screaming Death flight, some of the best the task force had to offer, pulled into a near-vertical climb as the cruise missiles began to tumble. One was picked up almost immediately by a missile and toasted; another only had time to drop his sonobuoys before being shredded by a CIWS. The remaining jets, however, pulled out in a high-G turn and launched a full salvo of missiles at the nearest battleship; several had already dropped torpedos. Streaking through death exploding everywhere around them, the planes split up into two-man elements. The Pirahna, almost half the size of an Eagle, could pull through maneuvers the latter would only dream of, and as the sonar became more and more confused, their hopes rose. Several dropped jamming buoys -- good luck for the Artitsan forces to get those, and good luck fighting through them. Ducking and weaving, three of the elements broke and made a suicide run at the command ship; the other twelve took whatever targets were available, dumping their ordinance at the nearest battleship, cruiser, or destroyer, then streaking off, mere meters above the ocean. Several more were plucked from the sky by missiles and gunfire despite the bursts of jamming.

The six running for the command ship, recognizable by its distinctive radar emissions, knew that they would likely not live. Their targeting controls obscured by their own jamming, they went to manual and attacked.

The first two streaked in low, barely managing to fire before being shot down. The second and third pair swooped around the sides, volleying everything, then popping up and charging straight at the stricken ship.

"FOR SKEPTICISM!"

One plane detonated bare meters from the ship's hull; another blasted right into the superstructure before exploding. The third was clipped by a CIWS and ran into the side of the ship, detonating in a massive fireball that cored right through. The final Pirahna, a modified version piloted by the commander, pulled up at the last minute, flying into the sky at full afterburner, and even as missiles and cannon sought him out, detonated his final weapon above the battlefield.

The microwave EMP went off in a dazzling burst, frying all electronics which were not shielded. Between that and the jammers, safe inside their Faraday cages, the Artitsan forces should have a lean time of it.

OOC: Twenty fighters' worth of ordinance. Your call :)
Agrigento
18-11-2003, 01:06
With the incoming projectiles, fired by the J-class ships, a heavy chaff environment was deployed (not sure of what kinda giudance you use).

Again Aster30's were launched, in 2 to a vamp format. Airborne Combattente fire their Meteor's at extreme distances (Meteor has a range in excess of 100 km), targetting the enemy planes.

Several ships were damaged from the enemy missiles that got through the AD screen, mostly destroyers and a NUM carrier.

3 Squadrons (36 planes) of Combattentes are launched and sent to engage the Artitsa fleet with anti-ship missiles.
The Macabees
18-11-2003, 01:06
To: All of whom it may concern
From: Imperial High Command

The Macabee Empire had decided to stand on the side of Artitsa and his allies because the threat of the GDU alliance being invaded is just too great. Thus, in accordance, I have decided to mobilize the largest fleet in the history of the empire by not mobilizing infantry until the invasion actually begins (except the always mobilized 1,000,000 men on the Macabean line which sorrounds the mainland nation). Thank you for your time and good bye.

OOC: The following part is only known to allies so dont use it agaisnt me

IC:

To: Allies at War
From: Kriegsmarine High Command

Forces Mobilized under Admiral Straußmann >>

20 Rommel class Battleships
25 Halder class Battleships
30 Seydlitz class Cruisers
30 Clauswitz class Frigates
25 Manstein class Destroyers
30 Tankers
50 Mine and Net Layers
30 Mine and Net Removers
10 Nimitz class Aircraft Carriers
12 Escort Carriers
50 Wolf class Attack Subs
The Macabees
18-11-2003, 01:08
OOC: You can check out ship information at www24.brinkster.com/macabeanarms

IC: The fleet will rondevouz wherever allies dictate so.
imported_Skepticism
18-11-2003, 01:15
To: All of whom it may concern
From: Imperial High Command

The Macabee Empire had decided to stand on the side of Artitsa and his allies because the threat of the GDU alliance being invaded is just too great. Thus, in accordance, I have decided to mobilize the largest fleet in the history of the empire by not mobilizing infantry until the invasion actually begins (except the always mobilized 1,000,000 men on the Macabean line which sorrounds the mainland nation). Thank you for your time and good bye.

OOC: The following part is only known to allies so dont use it agaisnt me

IC:

To: Allies at War
From: Kriegsmarine High Command

Forces Mobilized under Admiral Straußmann >>

20 Rommel class Battleships
25 Halder class Battleships
30 Seydlitz class Cruisers
30 Clauswitz class Frigates
25 Manstein class Destroyers
30 Tankers
50 Mine and Net Layers
30 Mine and Net Removers
10 Nimitz class Aircraft Carriers
12 Escort Carriers
50 Wolf class Attack Subs

Secret IC

USSS Diplomat Stephen Ambrose makes his case:

Macabee Empire, however mighty you may be, we ask that you not join this madness. If nothing else, already enormous amounts of warships have joined the region, certainly enough to force a peace. Why not let your allies take care of themselves, instead of risking your own precious forces and your own precious men? Unless the GDU alliance (which we are humbled to admit we have not familiarity with) contains Unum Veritas, your basis for engagement is null and void, anyway. We set out with a single, simple goal, only now to be enveloped by dozens of cobelligerants. If you were not involved in this war from the start, with the first firing upon UV forces, we believe you should not be now, for we fight for him and him only.

What's more, the USSS possesses a new weapon of incredible destructive potential that we shall unleash in our own defense, if it becomes necessary. We ask you not to risk your young people as so many others already have. Let it be decided by those who are already involved, rather than complicate the situation further and risk your own country.
Arribastan
18-11-2003, 01:15
40 Su-37s mount a constant CAP, along with 10 E-2C hawkeyes(updated radar).
groups of 5 Seawolves begin to move in on the USSS fleet from 5 different directions. they are gauged to arrive with the cruisers, destroyers, airplanes, battleships and frigates.
imported_Skepticism
18-11-2003, 01:20
40 Su-37s mount a constant CAP, along with 10 E-2C hawkeyes(updated radar).
groups of 5 Seawolves begin to move in on the USSS fleet from 5 different directions. they are gauged to arrive with the cruisers, destroyers, airplanes, battleships and frigates.

OOC: Should we assume that your attacking fighters were destroyed or turned back?

IC: The Seawolves are detected by the active-search sonobuoys already active; despite their pathetic attempt at wolfpacking. ASROC volleys are launched at each group, and more will follow if they prove necessary. Meanwhile, the right flank battleships open up on the closing Arribastan forces, easily outranging them with their SCRAMjet-aided rounds. Artillery-deployed mines are sown between the two forces; a small group of cruisers and destroyers shifts in case they are required to charge out. Deciding that they may as well use every weapon they have, several USSS battleships volley their cruise missiles, sending over two hundred total towards approaching forces. More fighters packed with munitions begin to take off, ready to dive upon the enemy.
Artitsa
18-11-2003, 01:21
((Whew ok, lets do this. The more time I buy the better. Nice attack Skept ;) But I sent two fleets, two Command ships. But don't worry. Also I had over 100 SS-102 interceptors flying CAP over my fleet, but your attack remains, I rather liked it :D. Im not sure about those Chaffs.. they could potentially effect the shells, but remember, its basically huge shell hurtling in, guided only by small fins to stabilize it for a confirmed hit. Why not say 40% of the shells are jammed, and 30% of the ones not jam miss? so out of 10 shells only about 3 would hit.))

The Command ship began to list to its side and go under. Almost all ships had EMP shielding, but 3 Destroyers were left temperarly disabled. The Battleships were left with minor damage, being repaired. What wasn't noticed, was one of the Battleships had internal structural damage. (secret: the ship could end up splitting in half, nice shot)

The second Command ship "Lit" up so to speak. All sensors were brought online, and a third Yakhont salvo was organized against the Agrigento fleet once more. The Interceptors waited for another Airstrike against the fleet, having failed to prevent the last. They would not be caught unawares again. The J-Class battleships let loose another volley of shots, having turned to cross the enemies T so to speak. The 6 battleships swivled their 4 turrets a peice and fired salvo after salvo. This as a risky manuver but it might pay off.

Four K-Series subs prowled at their absolute silent 10knots along the ocean floor. They would slowly make their way under the Agrigento fleet, moving lower than any sub of the enemy fleet. Once under the carriers if they made it, they would fire their vertical torpedoes into the soft underbellies of the carriers. It would be several minutes of quiet sneaking before they were in position.

((Is it just me, or is this a good fight on both sides?))
Artitsa
18-11-2003, 01:22
((Oh Skept, GDU is the alliance of Mac's region. DT and I being members of that region. Macabees is my closest ally besides Zossen.))
The Macabees
18-11-2003, 01:23
To all others:

The Fleet will stick in Artitsan and Macabean waters to prevent an invasion..we will not join the actualy current battle.
imported_Skepticism
18-11-2003, 01:31
OOC: Thanks for the help, Artitsa. As long as well all have fun, number crunching is unnecessary. Plus, the ole "what the hell where did those fighters come from five meters above the freakin' ocean" trick will catch anyone off guard at least once ;)

IC: Admiral Darkk, second in command, cursed. The strike against Artitsa had been fairly successful; one command ship destroyed, some battleships damaged, several smaller ships taking light damage from the munitions launched every which way; some damage from the EMP. Unfortunately, there was virtually no way they would be able to pull that trick again, at least not with his pilots, they sure as hell weren't going to. Right now his pilots had to intercept another group incoming, and he had orders to see what else could be done... At least he had ASW flights checking after those blasted submarines.

So far the UV forces were at a standoff; Commodore Pael and his intrepid Lal group had pulled back into line, Perhaps they could sally forth against the Arribastards -- he rather liked that pun, come to think of it. With luck Agrigento would be able to check Artitsa, especially with the USSS help. And until then, he would try and think of another way to get fighters past murderous defense without losing nineteen out of twenty of them.

At least they had updated information from the sonobuoys...which could be useful.

Darkk suddenly sad jerk upright. He had an idea -- if the ship had the munitions. "Lieutennant, get your ass over here, and give me a list of what all this ship carries! Do it now and do it fast!"
Agrigento
18-11-2003, 01:34
ooc: artitsa, I think thats impossible with the subs, because my fleet too is moving, moving closer to the phyrric fleet, and if your subs are moving at 10 knts they will never catch up. Its a good idea if my ships were standing still. I'll let you know if we stop.

ic:

The Combattente come within range of the enemy fleet and activate their ATARPs (Advanced Targeting and Recon Pods). They each release 4 AGM-119B Penguin Anti-Ship Missiles.
imported_Skepticism
18-11-2003, 01:35
To all others:

The Fleet will stick in Artitsan and Macabean waters to prevent an invasion..we will not join the actualy current battle.

We praise the Macabean leaders for their wisedom and temperance. Thank you for not making this fight even more chaotic than it must be.
Unum Veritas
18-11-2003, 01:38
To: All of whom it may concern
From: Imperial High Command

The Macabee Empire had decided to stand on the side of Artitsa and his allies because the threat of the GDU alliance being invaded is just too great. Thus, in accordance, I have decided to mobilize the largest fleet in the history of the empire by not mobilizing infantry until the invasion actually begins (except the always mobilized 1,000,000 men on the Macabean line which sorrounds the mainland nation). Thank you for your time and good bye.

OOC: The following part is only known to allies so dont use it agaisnt me

IC:

To: Allies at War
From: Kriegsmarine High Command

Forces Mobilized under Admiral Straußmann >>

20 Rommel class Battleships
25 Halder class Battleships
30 Seydlitz class Cruisers
30 Clauswitz class Frigates
25 Manstein class Destroyers
30 Tankers
50 Mine and Net Layers
30 Mine and Net Removers
10 Nimitz class Aircraft Carriers
12 Escort Carriers
50 Wolf class Attack Subs

Secret IC

USSS Diplomat Stephen Ambrose makes his case:

Macabee Empire, however mighty you may be, we ask that you not join this madness. If nothing else, already enormous amounts of warships have joined the region, certainly enough to force a peace. Why not let your allies take care of themselves, instead of risking your own precious forces and your own precious men? Unless the GDU alliance (which we are humbled to admit we have not familiarity with) contains Unum Veritas, your basis for engagement is null and void, anyway. We set out with a single, simple goal, only now to be enveloped by dozens of cobelligerants. If you were not involved in this war from the start, with the first firing upon UV forces, we believe you should not be now, for we fight for him and him only.

What's more, the USSS possesses a new weapon of incredible destructive potential that we shall unleash in our own defense, if it becomes necessary. We ask you not to risk your young people as so many others already have. Let it be decided by those who are already involved, rather than complicate the situation further and risk your own country.

Several key flaws there: You were not even involved in the original conflict and neither were almost any of the nations attacking me. The only country actually involved from the beginning was Phyrric, and the defending countries have a right to call in allies, while the aggressors should have no reason to because they initiated the conflict in the first place. Besides, as of now I have no plans for a large counterattack against any of your nations should your fleets be beaten/withdrawn. I don't like the idea of having my nation laid in ruins and I don't plan on doing it to any of yours either.
Artitsa
18-11-2003, 01:40
ooc: I know, eventually I will catch up, they'll just shadow along until you stop lol :)
If this protracts and longer, do you mind if I have my Wolf packs (which have been hanging back) take some shots on your supply ships? I'd be fun :D

ic: Fleet Admiral Jonathan Finegold smiled warily. The subs would never catch up in time, but they wouldn't be caught either going that slowly and quietly. He wasn't even sure where they were. But he knew the Captains, and they in turn knew what they were doing.
"Have the battleships fire one more salvo, then we are to have a tactical withdrawl. Lets get out of their operational range for now. Its time to lick our wounds and wait for the right time. Do it now."
The order passed out to the captain of every vessel in the fleet. The last Salvo was fired from the Battleships and they immediatly began to turn. The Missle cruisers provided some cover, firing a few more Yakhonts at random open looking ships. They began to speed away, but the CAP remained overhead.
Artitsa
18-11-2003, 01:41
We ask the Nation of Skepticism to not carry the fight back to Artitsan shores. It would prevent much loss of life.
The Macabees
18-11-2003, 01:45
OOC: LMAO!! You actually carried it out... hello Mr. Finegold...who is me...hehe.. I CONTROL YOUR FLEET BWAHAHA..

*this has been a random spam from your spamming officials*

This will also be the last spam
imported_Skepticism
18-11-2003, 01:45
Secret IC

USSS Diplomat Stephen Ambrose makes his case:

Macabee Empire, however mighty you may be, we ask that you not join this madness. If nothing else, already enormous amounts of warships have joined the region, certainly enough to force a peace. Why not let your allies take care of themselves, instead of risking your own precious forces and your own precious men? Unless the GDU alliance (which we are humbled to admit we have not familiarity with) contains Unum Veritas, your basis for engagement is null and void, anyway. We set out with a single, simple goal, only now to be enveloped by dozens of cobelligerants. If you were not involved in this war from the start, with the first firing upon UV forces, we believe you should not be now, for we fight for him and him only.

What's more, the USSS possesses a new weapon of incredible destructive potential that we shall unleash in our own defense, if it becomes necessary. We ask you not to risk your young people as so many others already have. Let it be decided by those who are already involved, rather than complicate the situation further and risk your own country.

Several key flaws there: You were not even involved in the original conflict and neither were almost any of the nations attacking me. The only country actually involved from the beginning was Phyrric, and the defending countries have a right to call in allies, while the aggressors should have no reason to because they initiated the conflict in the first place. Besides, as of now I have no plans for a large counterattack against any of your nations should your fleets be beaten/withdrawn. I don't like the idea of having my nation laid in ruins and I don't plan on doing it to any of yours either.

On the contrary, the USSS was involved in the DT conflict which spawned this one; our nation made the strategic decision that engaging you would be more likely to fulfill our goals concerning DT than attacking him himself. We urge Macabean leaders to keep to their steadfast path of wise unengagement.
United Elias
18-11-2003, 01:47
OOC: just to make sure that UV understands that he can RP my forces listed on the last page.
18-11-2003, 01:49
OOC:

We will send:

6 Tigershark Diesel Electric Submarines (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2132825#2132825)

4 Akula class submarines.

I havent really got time to RP so can you just assume they latch on to one of your carrier groups. I'll check whats happening probably once a day or something, maybe more if I get time.
OOC:
That was what UE sent, BTW.
The Macabees
18-11-2003, 01:49
To: Skepticism
From: Madrid

We will not enter combat unless your ships and all those who which we now dispise attempt to enter GDU waters. If you attempt that sort of blatant imperialism I will engage your forces with my entire fleet and the 400mm coastal guns (which go some 100km in the sea..ie the range). Just as a warning.

[signed]Finegold III
imported_Skepticism
18-11-2003, 01:51
We ask the Nation of Skepticism to not carry the fight back to Artitsan shores. It would prevent much loss of life.

Admiral Darkk cursed. "I come up with a bloody good idea and they run away! Dammit! However irritated he was, however, Darkk knew that the retreat of the Artitsan forces was good news. With only the Arribastards and UV forces currently engaged, the USSS chances increased from not very good to not so very bad. Maybe. "Besides, maybe my scheme can come in useful some other time..."

Admiral Pertand decided not to pursue. "We need every ship here and now, and that's a damn fact. Let Agrigento let them go and help us out and maybe we can weather this storm yet!
Unum Veritas
18-11-2003, 01:54
The 8 CBG's that were ready to prevent any new forces from entering the conflict have turned and begun to engage the Agrigento force. 40 Sea Shadows, under hoverpatrolcraft and Pegasus hydrofoil escort, have engaged the Agrigento ships. A total of 20 torpedoes and 40 anti-ship missiles have been fired at the enemy vessels, and the UV forces have withdrawn. 1 Sea Shadow, 5 Hoverpatrolcraft, and 3 Pegasus hydrofoils have been lost. Simultaneously, 15 arsenal ships have launched 40 Brahmos anti-ship missiles at the Agrigento fleet, and the AEGIS destroyers have added 15 more Exocet missiles to the onslaught. 15 F-14E Ultra Tomcats, 10 F-22 Sea Raptors, 10 F-117 Nighthawks (a CTOL version), and 12 UV-00 Archangels have begun attacking the Agrigento forces. The fighters are attacking AA ships, while the bombers have dropped mines, torpedoes, and depth charges. The aircraft then returned to their respective carriers. 3 F-14E's, 2 F-22's, 1 F-117, and 2 UV-00's were lost in the battle. [Agrigento, post damages]

The 2 CBG's on either side of Phyrric's forces have begun to close in, while the 4 CBG's behind engage Skepticism's fleet(s).

*The attacks against Phyrric*
Sea Shadows, Arsenal Ships, aircraft, and submarines have all begun attacking the fringes of Phyrric's forces. A SEAL time has deployed, and at last contact was preparing to attach explosives to one of Phyrric's carriers. The SEAL team was delivered by a specially-outfitted specops sub utilizing caterpillar technology. One LA sub has managed to get into position and is now firing deep-penetration strikes on the center of Phyrric's forces. A total of 30 anti-ship missiles and 25 torpedoes have been fired. 5 jets have been splashed, 1 Sea Shadow has been damaged and forced to return to a port, and 1 sub has lost radio contact.

*4 CBG's assigned to deal with Skepticism*
The Visby class corvettes (a next-generation stealth corvette designed to deal with AA, ASW, and AEW threats) moved in as escort to the Sea Shadows. These ships were normally stealthy, but in such large numbers it was too much to be hoped that they wouldn't be picked up on radar/sonar. As soon as the Sea Shadows were within range of Skepticism's outer ships, they fired off their missiles and torpedoes and raced back for the cover of the main fleet, while the Visby corvettes covered their retreat. At the same time 2 F-14E's streaked over the Skepticism fleet going at max speed. The two jets dropped a single mine each, before heading back to their carriers. 1 of the jets was lost, and 1 Visby corvette has been sunk, while another sustained heavy damages.
imported_Skepticism
18-11-2003, 01:54
To: Skepticism
From: Madrid

We will not enter combat unless your ships and all those who which we now dispise attempt to enter GDU waters. If you attempt that sort of blatant imperialism I will engage your forces with my entire fleet and the 400mm coastal guns (which go some 100km in the sea..ie the range). Just as a warning.

[signed]Finegold III

We most solemnly and seriously understand the situation and shall avoid provoking you in any way. Just to make something clear, who exactly is a GDU member?
Unum Veritas
18-11-2003, 01:57
OOC:

We will send:

6 Tigershark Diesel Electric Submarines (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2132825#2132825)

4 Akula class submarines.

I havent really got time to RP so can you just assume they latch on to one of your carrier groups. I'll check whats happening probably once a day or something, maybe more if I get time.
OOC:
That was what UE sent, BTW.

Don't worry, they'll be used.
Imminent Deletion
18-11-2003, 01:58
OOC: Unum Veritas is my R&D friend, and has requested my aid. This is my incredibly small navy (excluding some hovercraft landing vessels, which it currently appears will not be required). I don't have the time or patience to do any real RPing, so I'll just give everything to Unum Veritas and hope he leaves something to defend my own nation with. Not that it really matters, since I'm sure it'll be razed sooner or later. I could also sum up my Air Force and whatever else is needed. http://www.sc3000.com/forums/images/face1.GIF

10x Advanced Special Operations Submersible (ASOS)
21x Arsenal Ship
6x Besore Class Frigate
4x Civilization Class Distroyer
3x De Ruyter Class Distroyer
17x Helicopter Assault Ship
12x Iowa Class Battleship
1x Marlboro Class Frigate
10x Ohio Class Ballistic Missile Submarine (SSBN)
28x Oliver Hazard Perry Class Frigate
168x Pegasus Patrol Craft
12x Seahorse Class Special Operations Submarine
74x Sea Shadow
57x Sea Snake Light Attack Submersible
184x Siggage Class Destroyer
22x Skivving Class AEGIS Destroyer
1x Soyuz III Battleship
24x Taruntul IV Class Fast Attack boat
20x Tiufekchiev Class Raider
9x Urchin Attack Submarine
4x UV Command Ship
21x UV Hospital Ship
9x UV Hover Carrier (each with 100 assorted planes, including F-23Ws)
57x Visby Class Corvette
24x Wasp Class Amphibious Assault Ship

I can send seven million soldiers, but I don't know how they'd get through whatever is surrounding Unum Veritas. Any suggestions?

IC: Millions of radical liberals left over from Imminent Deletion's membership in the U.N. attempted to cause "disturbances" in all of its five major cities today after learning that we have declared war on several nations each with power similar to or exceeding that of Animilia. However, the police force was prepared for this, and the liberals have been deported to Bakshi (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_nation/nation=bakshi). The remaining citizens were asked to either swear allegiance to our cause to the death (whatever our cause is... freedom for Unum Veritas, I guess) or leave for the nation of their choice in the regions of
Animilia (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_region/region=animilia) or Zarfonia (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_region/region=zarfonia). They will be joining all of our citizens under the age of 18, who were sent there this morning IRL. About 300 million men and women remain, working in our factories while they wait for whatever end.

OOC: Honorable opponents, if you want to know I'm not a puppet of anyone else here, just ask the mods to look at my IP. I do have a total of 68 nations, the rest of which don't exist IC, aside from the fact that I can send my citizens there (IC, you can pretend I sent them somewhere else or killed them if you want). Any way, please start killing the rest of my people whenever it's convenient for you. I'll post a map of my nation later so you can start bombing and/or shelling it. http://www.sc3000.com/forums/images/face1.GIF
Unum Veritas
18-11-2003, 01:59
Okay, I'm going to be gone for the next hour and a half or so, but I'll post at least once more tonight. I must say this is actually being rather fun, although I must request that since hte point of this was to divert forces from DT and it is succeeding, can we keep this to the naval battle and not go into annexing or anything else? Thanks! Let's just RP this for RPing sake.
The Macabees
18-11-2003, 01:59
Grossdeutschland Union Members:

The Macabees
Zossen
Artitsa
Dark Terror
Bashima
imported_Skepticism
18-11-2003, 02:00
OOC: This will likely be my last post. Sorry, ya'll, but I have to eat dinner really soon. This has been going really well so far; great job all! Please no more attacks on me after this; set them up, but please no engaging.

IC: Commodore Pael grinned preditorily. "Cruiser Group Lal, back into it! If they think some piss-ante 'vettes and a few jets are going to scare us, they've got another thing coming! All members, full speed ahead, lock on target, and fire as you bear! Once we get inside their formation, those thin-skinned missile boats have no chance against ram and gun and rocket! CHARGE!"

All ships within range not already engaging the Arribastan forces begin shooting immediately at the nearest UV forces; Pirahnas stay out of the conflict and continue flying cover. Several jamming and tracking sonobuoys are fired into the midst of the UV fleet.

The USSS was going to need every advantage it could glean in this fight.
Artitsa
18-11-2003, 02:06
Two CBG's were to meet up with Zossonian fleets, and make way for UV waters. They would rendevouz with the current Artitsan fleet already there. This did leave only 1 Battle Group in Artitsan waters. ((Bless Macabees.))
imported_Ilek-Vaad
18-11-2003, 02:08
LNS (Lassic News Service) ,Lassic, Ilek-Vaad-

It was reported today that the First Republican has requested that the Supreme Republican Commander to activate the Retaliatory Guard and to give 'All necessary aid to our allies in Phyrric'

"Phyrric is our ally. Any attack against them will be joined by the Ratliatory Guard. We must make it clear to the world that Ilek-Vaad honurs our allies and despises their enemies." stated the First Republican

It was further reported that 2 carrier groups and the BattleGroup 'Emperor Ehecatl' were being activated and that possibly 8 Retaliatory Guard armies were also activated and ready to deploy.

Several huge explosions over the Tollan Massif signaled the launch of the sub-orbital 'Death' Head' Stealth Bombers. Tollan Fire Command would not confirm how many 'Death's Head' wings had been launched but only confirmed that they had been launched.

Staff Seargent Mirai Assad of the 1st Red Jaguar Command told reporters "We will co-ordinate our attacks with our allies and will use our forces in their support should they need it. My Life For The Republic."
18-11-2003, 02:32
Two CBG's were to meet up with Zossonian fleets, and make way for UV waters. They would rendevouz with the current Artitsan fleet already there. This did leave only 1 Battle Group in Artitsan waters. ((Bless Macabees.))

At the Naval Base in Jannus Landing....

22 Kilo class SSK's disembark from their berths at roughly 0240 Hrs.
Destination: Joining up with Artitsa's fleet.
18-11-2003, 02:33
Two CBG's were to meet up with Zossonian fleets, and make way for UV waters. They would rendevouz with the current Artitsan fleet already there. This did leave only 1 Battle Group in Artitsan waters. ((Bless Macabees.))

At the Naval Base in Jannus Landing....

22 Kilo class SSK's disembark from their berths at roughly 0240 Hrs.
Destination: Joining up with Artitsa's fleet.OOC:
BTW, theyre the indian versions, they have SS-N-27 ASM's.
Phyrric
18-11-2003, 02:35
There are some issues that are clearly overlooked here:

How in the heck are forces freindly to UV just passing right over the naval forces of Nations totalling a 3 billion+ population? These forces cannot be ignored as much as that is wished. Such as Skepticism, Pissed off Americans and Edolia just to name some.

PLEASE READ WHAT IS GOING ON BEFORE POSTING as not to step over and on issues that are clearly present. There are alot of pages, but be respectful of others and take the time to read just like anyone else has to.

UV, talk about light posts? When are you going to post realistic losses yourself from the carrier groups that were shoved down your thoat.

Macabees, need I remind you of the pending treaty obligations between UNAOTO and the NJA for which we both have mutual alliances with several members and for which I am a member of the former. Are you willing to throw those talks to the wind for a unit that enslaves and executes over religious matters. Being a member of an organization that suffered such intolerances, surprised me greatly that you are now defending that intolerance and their cause. Read the "so be it" thread for the particulars and details. UV and Artitsa are defending Dark Terror for slaughtering Catholics while imprisoned as slaves. A reason for this attack on UV. I think you have been misinformed by your allies or just did not know what was going on, either way, you may very well be on the wrong side here. Amerigo slave war all over again, nip it before it escalates.

IC:

"We have a response from Unum Veritas sir"

"Very well, what is it?"

"As anticipated, they have rejected the terms of the treaty and continued to insult us with mockery since allies have shown themselves. they are feeling very brave."

"Very well, I will address the Senate and ask for a formal declaration of war. Inform them of the retraction of the submission of the treaty, if they want a cease fire, we will now accept nothing less than a total unconditional surrender. Dismissed."
18-11-2003, 02:35
OOC: Thanks DT. Forgot to include that. 8)
The Macabees
18-11-2003, 02:38
5 Rommel class Battleships
10 Seydlitz class Cruisers
10 Clauswitz class Frigates
10 Manstein class Destroyer

Those ships with Macabean crews have been leased to Dark Terror for the use in the further progression of this war. This is not a declaration of war, this is a lend-lease by a neutral nation.
Arribastan
18-11-2003, 02:40
never mind
Artitsa
18-11-2003, 02:41
Phyrric. You threatened an NJA member with Annexation. So YOU have attempted to break those ties. Besides Macabees is fighting on behalf of GDU, not NJA. And we are not in UV waters, we are just outside of it. Your the one who has nations coming out of thin air supporting you. You have like seriously 20 nations just popping in here and there.
The Macabees
18-11-2003, 02:43
As Chief of Staff of the NJA military I would bring in the NJA if I had to since I have the power to do so, therefore please dont threaten me with that.
18-11-2003, 02:47
Righto, the newest reinforcements which have not yet arrived, under The Macabees, Zossen, and Geforce4, will fight their way through. (OOC: Those posted earlier have already arrived, the posters simply placed them under UV's control and were forgotten about. Simple eh?) DT will contribute 30 Oscar 3 class SSN's to the effort as well. The Bisonic, Macabeean, and Zossonian forces are jointly sailing together from the North pacific, the Geforcian frigates and light carrier battle groups are sailing from... uhh wherever Geforce4 is (theyre under UV's control). DT is considering using Ardorian bases to launch strikes against enemy fleets, as the south of Ardor is off of southern china, and not too far form the south pacific.
Phyrric
18-11-2003, 02:48
Phyrric. You threatened an NJA member with Annexation. So YOU have attempted to break those ties. Besides Macabees is fighting on behalf of GDU, not NJA. And we are not in UV waters, we are just outside of it. Your the one who has nations coming out of thin air supporting you. You have like seriously 20 nations just popping in here and there.

Now it is time for the body slam:

Go back to the original thread, who threatened annexation first and how many times were you warned to stand back? I do believe 3 times.

I will contact the fellow members of UNAOTO that are members of the NJA as well and see what sanctions there are for you and your mob squad supporting religious intolerances when your alliance is based upon religious persecutions and injustaces because that is what you are fighting for and defending. If you are indeed jewish as a member of the NJA, how can you possibly stomach the slaughter that DT is posting and support him after the holocaust knowledge?

I will keep in touch on this matter.
Agrigento
18-11-2003, 02:49
Heavy damage was reported to the fleet. With several destroyers sunk, 1 Arsenal ship is burning and a Guardian AEGIS Arsenal Ship sinking.


The 3rd Fleet is departing from Port Murano, on Agrigento's north-eastern coast.

ooc: how about my missile attack?
Imminent Deletion
18-11-2003, 02:51
I do not approve of DT's actions, and I don't know why UV has allied himself with him. I am trying to defend Unum Veritas, not Dark terror.

Kewl, we're going to be bombed by something named after a cockroach (http://www.goldenphoenixexotica.com/roach.html)! Here's your target map. http://www.sc3000.com/forums/images/face1.GIF

Yellow: Sand
Green: Meadow
Dark Green: Forest
Orange: Desert
Brown/White: Mountains

Star: Capital (Get it? Capital... decapitate... yeah) City of Deletion Candidates (DelCans)
1: Phenylalanine
2: Phytonadione
3: Albatross
4: Acidophilus

The map also indicates where my nation's coastal waters meet international terrotory, as well as the distance and direction to Unum Veritas. http://www.sc3000.com/forums/images/face1.GIF

http://rtspalace.simarchitect.com/Andro/ATTAKMAPX0RRRR.jpg
18-11-2003, 02:53
As fik put it, "I love terrorism, especially when its directed against catholics. They deserve it after 1500 years of massacring jews, moslems, and other christians".


Not to mention we gave our catholics time to leave before exterminating them in the style of the great inquisition, which killed 8 million people.
Artitsa
18-11-2003, 02:57
Body Slam? I supported DT as an ally. Simple as that. What he does to his own people. I myself am not jewish, but I see Nazi's come on these forums and murder jewish people... and well Im there to stop it. DT gave the Catholic population the option to leave. If they did not, then I guess they gave up their rights. So basically you are forcing YOUR religious beliefs on Dark Terror, as most catholic nations do. I've noticed. It happens in both the real world and this. I was never warned to stand down, and I threatned to annex you to prevent an attack on UV. What do you do, you attack UV to spread your Catholic ideals to another nation. I in turn helped UV fight off such a vagerent religious attempt at conquest. Good Day to you sir.

(Above post is IC, and does not relay feelings of poster)
Phyrric
18-11-2003, 02:57
I do not approve of DT's actions, and I don't know why UV has allied himself with him. I am trying to defend Unum Veritas, not Dark terror.

Kewl, we're going to be bombed by something named after a cockroach (http://www.goldenphoenixexotica.com/roach.html)! Here's your target map. http://www.sc3000.com/forums/images/face1.GIF

Yellow: Sand
Green: Meadow
Dark Green: Forest
Orange: Desert
Brown/White: Mountains

Star: Capital (Get it? Capital... decapitate... yeah) City of Deletion Candidates (DelCans)
1: Phenylalanine
2: Phytonadione
3: Albatross
4: Acidophilus

The map also indicates where my nation's coastal waters meet international terrotory, as well as the distance and direction to Unum Veritas. http://www.sc3000.com/forums/images/face1.GIF

http://rtspalace.simarchitect.com/Andro/ATTAKMAPX0RRRR.jpg

Your friends have made themselves my enemies by supporting my enemies, the cause is the same, the location is just different.
Agrigento
18-11-2003, 03:01
Body Slam? I supported DT as an ally. Simple as that. What he does to his own people. I myself am not jewish, but I see Nazi's come on these forums and murder jewish people... and well Im there to stop it. DT gave the Catholic population the option to leave. If they did not, then I guess they gave up their rights. So basically you are forcing YOUR religious beliefs on Dark Terror, as most catholic nations do. I've noticed. It happens in both the real world and this. I was never warned to stand down, and I threatned to annex you to prevent an attack on UV. What do you do, you attack UV to spread your Catholic ideals to another nation. I in turn helped UV fight off such a vagerent religious attempt at conquest. Good Day to you sir.

(Above post is IC, and does not relay feelings of poster)

ooc and ic: NO, I AM AGAINST THE KILLING OF PEOPLE....

It doesnt matter if they were Catholics, Jews, Muslims, or Buddhists....
Phyrric
18-11-2003, 03:02
Body Slam? I supported DT as an ally. Simple as that. What he does to his own people. I myself am not jewish, but I see Nazi's come on these forums and murder jewish people... and well Im there to stop it. DT gave the Catholic population the option to leave. If they did not, then I guess they gave up their rights. So basically you are forcing YOUR religious beliefs on Dark Terror, as most catholic nations do. I've noticed. It happens in both the real world and this. I was never warned to stand down, and I threatned to annex you to prevent an attack on UV. What do you do, you attack UV to spread your Catholic ideals to another nation. I in turn helped UV fight off such a vagerent religious attempt at conquest. Good Day to you sir.

(Above post is IC, and does not relay feelings of poster)

Hitler gave the Jews and opportunity to leave, millions fled to Russia and scattered throughout the globe.

I am spreading nothing but the prohibition of slavery and against those that support and defend slavery/murder.

I guess if the NJA is on this, might as well give the Reich a call?
Artitsa
18-11-2003, 03:02
ooc: Thats fine with me, I feel the same way. Doesn't mean my nation does.
18-11-2003, 03:03
Body Slam? I supported DT as an ally. Simple as that. What he does to his own people. I myself am not jewish, but I see Nazi's come on these forums and murder jewish people... and well Im there to stop it. DT gave the Catholic population the option to leave. If they did not, then I guess they gave up their rights. So basically you are forcing YOUR religious beliefs on Dark Terror, as most catholic nations do. I've noticed. It happens in both the real world and this. I was never warned to stand down, and I threatned to annex you to prevent an attack on UV. What do you do, you attack UV to spread your Catholic ideals to another nation. I in turn helped UV fight off such a vagerent religious attempt at conquest. Good Day to you sir.

(Above post is IC, and does not relay feelings of poster)
Exactly, we gave them the opportunity to leave with the government paying for transportaiton out. Catholicism was outlawed because of church officials speaking out against the current govt (they were executed very quickly) A very small percentage (about .5%) refused, so now they get to do work like good Enemies of the People. We have nazis in the gulags too, but the main group there is convicted criminals. A few coutnries want to start this crusade becuase of a few hundred catholics in the gulags. So they will die, since we do have one possible silver bullet.
Pissed off Americans
18-11-2003, 03:03
USS New Mexico (SSN Seawolf) "CON SONAR CONTACT BEARING TWO FOUR ZERO!

"SONAR CON, DO WE HAVE AN ID ON THE CONTACT?"

"CON SONAR, SHE IS MAKING NOISE LIKE A NIMITZ CLASS CARRIER!"

TORPEDO ROOM CON, OPEN OUTTER DOORS!

The skipper always had an uneasy feeling when opening the torperdo outter door. The transient noises they made had a tendency to alert the wrong people that something was not right.

"CON SONAR MATCH BERARINGS, TORPEDO ROOM SET FOR ACTIVE PING CUT WIRES AND FIRE ON MY MARK!"

"MARK"

The noise and the shutter of the compressed air forcing the 8 MK48 ADCAP's from thier tubes brought everyone to attention. This time it was for real. This action was taking place between all 12 Seawolf's in thier hunter-killer package.

OOC UV you now have 52 MK48 ADCAP Torpedos and 44 Harpoon's heading toward your fleet attacking Arigento!