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[quote="Fasta Benj"]

72 heavy armour companies and 82 strike companies.
Strike co: 180 infantry, 18 RoachIFV's, 8 Louse tanks, 8 Tick tanks, 6 Stagnant Units, 1 Foetid Unit, 1 Leech system, 3 serpent/viper systems, 6 Snake AA tanks and 1 command vehichle.

Heavy Armour co: 24 louse tanks, 32 tick tanks, 8 Flea Tanks, 8Trv's, 6 shilkas, 6 snakes, 8 newts (only 3 co.s have these yet) 3 serpent/viper systems, 3 foetid units, command vehichle.

AFV1m4-6 Roach: IFV. carries 10 troops. armed with 4 AT missiles and 25mm chaingun, m5 has XC1 chaingun instead of std armament, m6 has flamethrower.
AFV2m3/4 Louse: MBT, carries recoilless 100mm gun
AFV3m1 TickTank: MBT, carries 72 Antitank missiles on revolving armoured mount.
AFV4m1 Leech: Missile system. roughly equivalent to scud.
AFV5m3 Snake: Armoured vehichle, tracked, with short ranged AA misiles
AFV6m1/AFV5m5 Serpent/viper: Two vehichles based on snakes. serpent carries LR AA/ AICBM misilles, Viper is dedicated radar vehichle. always operate in batterys of 3, each vehichle firing one missile. require 3 radars to gaurantee lock on telophase ICBM.
AFV8m1 Flea Scout tank. similar to louse, but less armour and stores. shorter hull.
AFV9m2 TRV: Scout tank/ tank destroyer. XC1 cannon. Titanium armour. Twin Turbine engines. Max speed offroad around 80kph
AFV11m1 Shilka: russian flak gun...
AFV12m2 Newt: Tank destroyer. avoid at all costs.
SV1m3-6 Stagnant: Mobile Helicopter operating base. carries stores, maintanance equipment, fuel, weapons, and a big metal landing pad. (basically no choppers left)
Foetid: Engineering vehichle used to carry stores for tank maintance. can also transport light tanks.
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all in all: 14,760 inf, 1,476 IFV's, 2,384 Louse, 2,960 ticktanks, 576 fleas, 576 TRV's and 24 Newts.

You're just another betrayer like Dyelli.

*Hands Al Anbar a book called "How to Win Friends and Influence People*

Sorry, I just couldn't resist. :)

You're just another betrayer like Dyelli.

*Hands Al Anbar a book called "How to Win Friends and Influence People*

Sorry, I just couldn't resist. :)

I wouldn't have said that if he wasn't betraying me. :?

* hands Al anbar a book called "Tzar Henry's guide to gaining enemies and nuking allies."
lesson one: kill own family members.
lesson two: Botch the job.
Lesson three: Fire nukes at civilians without provocation, or after provocation has been removed
lesson four: Send someone who hates you as your diplomat at international talks.

* hands Al anbar a book called "Tzar Henry's guide to gaining enemies and nuking allies."
lesson one: kill own family members.
lesson two: Botch the job.
Lesson three: Fire nukes at civilians without provocation, or after provocation has been removed
lesson four: Send someone who hates you as your diplomat at international talks.

LOL! The wild and crazy Tzar genes are alive and well!

You're just another betrayer like Dyelli.

*Hands Al Anbar a book called "How to Win Friends and Influence People*

Sorry, I just couldn't resist. :)

I wouldn't have said that if he wasn't betraying me. :?

Hmmm, but sometimes discretion is needed.

Sorry, everyone. I am only going to be on sporadicly during the next week (it's my college's test week). I try to keep up the RP, but I can't really guarentee anything.

Good luck on your exams Drakonia. Some FKC members are also busy students so they most likely are undergoing the same experience. But I like this RP and will try to keep it going. After all, where else can I call people pakrahs and blokk pakrahs? :)

Well I just launched 25, slightly modfied B-52 bombers armed with racks of long range-air to surface missles. Each caries approximatly 16 (based on size)

OOC: has anyone from the FKC contacted my tzar about how much trouble he's in yet?

OOC: Ah, isn't that the Key's job? Hell the Privy Council has been all but demanding that he show his face or send a lawyer...

yeah, i just wanted to make sure he didn't already know before my key contacts him. i asked because its in my next planned post for the holocaust thread.

Plank and a radical military element in Jiggady are ready to aid the Tzar. They have no concerns over the trouble that will ensue from this.

OOC: Oh man Drakonia do I feel your pain. Im pulling the all nighter tonight to finish my research paper and have unfortunatly been sidetracked by deciding to get involved in this situation.

Plank and a radical military element in Jiggady are ready to aid the Tzar. They have no concerns over the trouble that will ensue from this.

OOC: Oh man Drakonia do I feel your pain. Im pulling the all nighter tonight to finish my research paper and have unfortunatly been sidetracked by deciding to get involved in this situation.

To: general Plank
From: Tzar Henry, in a secret bunker AKA comms room, frigate Falconsnake
Glad to have you aboard

i really need to pimp out my support for you more... so far ive declared over four or five threads

I definitely understand all-nighters, Jiggady. I just did one night before last and I am still suffering from sleep loss. Anyway, I've only had time to put out a couple of quick posts in other threads. I try to type up and post some longer posts for the Crisis this weekend, but for now I've got an english papers to finish and a couple of psychology journals to write, I will return (someday, without school work to do).

[ooc: As such, Kelanthia has not conferred with her allies, either Drakonia, or Glorious Humanity regarding a reversal of the Rules of Engangement. To me, this means that I can do whatever it takes to keep my men safe. As Kelanthia's actions are not sanctioned by Drakonia, or Glorious Humanity, my actions toward Kelanthia are not in any related to the Glorious Humanity / Drakonia conflict, AND AS SUCH, my actions taken to negate this threat have no bearing on what these other nations may, or may not do in retelation.
If, Kelanthia decides it wishes to reverse its decision to Fire upon any threat, then this action will not have been taken. If Kelanthia does decide to continue with this course of action, then nothing will have changed]

Terribly sorry, I was unclear -- although the sub captains have permission to fire at any target, they will not do so unless attacked or given a direct threat. This is standard Kelanthian training and operational procedure -- I know I did not say so, and I offer profuse apologies. Just for future reference, here is a listing of Kelanthian Rules of Engagement levels:

ROE 1 – war level. Forces are free to attack targets of opportunity at will.
ROE 2 – forces may fire on any target they deem to be a direct and imminent threat; they need not be directly targeted. Targets of opportunity may not be attacked without explicit authorization.
ROE 3 – forces may fire on any target deemed to be a direct and imminent threat, but in order to constitute a direct and imminent threat, the enemy must be actively targeting the Kelanthian force. Targets of opportunity may not be attacked without explicit authorization.
ROE 4 – forces may fire on any target that has fired on them first. Targets of opportunity may not be attacked without explicit authorization.
ROE 5 – forces may only fire weapons with explicit permission from the Ministry of Defense, unless the commanding officer feels that the safety of his command has been compromised and defensive actions must be taken. No blatantly offensive fire without direct Ministry of Defense permission. Targets of opportunity may not be attacked without explicit authorization.

My subs were at ROE 2; thus, they would not attack any targets of opportunity unless the skippers felt that their command was threatened. A fleet sailing by without provoking the subs would not draw fire. That is the very reason I didn’t inform the other 2 of the plans is because I didn’t think that defensive measures needed to be cleared by allies.

Also, how did you know that they were at ROE 2? Unless you intercepted and decoded the FLASH transmission – and you didn’t say you did – I don’t know how you figured out IC that you had to eliminate them to guarantee safe passage for your vessels (which would be unnecessary as per the above paragraph, but you couldn’t have known that).

Quick question – how did you detect my subs? It was 10 ultraquiet subs basically laying on the bottom of the ocean and not moving! Seawolf subs (from which my Orcas are derivatives) are pretty damn quiet, and besides, we would have noticed an active sonar if it was strong enough to reach us. Then, you claim use of another active sonar and said it was “discussed” and you decided to attack. If you were close enough to detect me with active sonar, the Orcas would have seen you pinging them, figured out you sure weren’t friendly, and fired while you were “discussing;” I believe active sonar works both ways in that the person using it finds their target, but also advertises their position. Plus, we would have probably noticed their talking on an underwater telephone. I don’t make any pretensions to being an expert at submarine sonar abilities/underwater telephone abilities, but that seems obvious that my subs wouldn’t sit around dumbly after being targeted twice with active sonar and hearing chatter on a telephone. If you know more about the technical side of this than me, please comment and fix my mistakes. :)

About the Drakonian/GH fleet – how did you escape detection by them if you went around them and then used active sonar BEFORE the explosions masked engine noise? If active sonar advertises your presence, I would guess that they would notice, and probably not be very happy about you being there.

One last thing: what do you mean by this not having any bearing on the Drakonia/GH conflict? The only reason I got involved is that Drakonia asked me to. I am only in it to protect him in any way necessary; I sent forces because the Drakonian/GH fleet was massing and I figured it could use a little help. I have no quarrel with any FKC members outside of this conflict – as far as I knew, my deployment is part of the conflict.

So, as soon as we can clear some things up, I will post damages and losses. I’d like to know how you knew to hunt the subs down, how the sonar detected them at long range, how you avoided detection by the Drakonian/GH fleet, and how you thought I was involved by having forces. I apologize in advance if this seems confrontational – reading back through it, I see how it could be taken that way – but I assure you that I did not mean it that way. I just wanted to iron out a few questions I had about the actions you took. :)

For Alcona, and anyone else. makeup of the 5 brigades under Plank, each one is identicle.

2400 men, including infantry and support
infantry split between heavy machine guns, assault guns, rocket teams and one anti-tank team only basic RPG
10 T-80 tanks
35 Sabra main battle tanks
2 Apache escorts (travelling with brigade only as far as their range)
5 Tridon anti air guns
5 AS 90 artillery pieces
plus various minor support vehicles

AWM: Rescue the man on the beach!!!! NOW!
you have till tomorrow, then the animals eat him.

For the benefit of the FKC, and for the interest of anyone else. (treat this as an IC intelligence dossier)
Important commanders of Fasta Benj
Tzar Henry: Resisting Attainment
I'm sure you already know what hes like, but lets recap anyway.
He killed his father, and blamed the dyellians. He invaded DB and called it a police action. He has a room in his palace full of pictures of people tortured to death, where he relaxes in the evenings. He used nukes against bath, innaccurate and illegal ones. He is a drunkard, lecher and suspected pedophile. In short, he is evil and clinically insane. He has about half the Fasta benjian fleet, and still plans to attack DB.

Earl Largo Goeth: Resisting Attainment
He is noted for his aggressiveness, and so the tzar put him in charge of all the really dangerous weapons. He is in fact not a true Goeth, as his father was Largo Sensei-Tanaka. (the wife had an affair). He hates Duke Leonard Tanaka, as he suspects him of communist leanings, and despises the mans refusal to execute random peasants every saturday (the tzar ordered this). He has an uneasy truce with the man he believes to be his father, Earl Piro Goeth. He is unpredictable and very cunning, and currently controls all Fasta Benj's remaining nuclear, biological and chemical weapons, as well as a few ground units.

Admiral Stevens: Complying with Attainment
Sensible, but fairly impatient man who has decided to comply with the FKC orders. He may yet change his mind. Has the most dangerous vessels in the FB fleet securely in hand. however, forced to retreat by the tzar.

Warlord Viktor Thuringian: unaware of attainment
Slow witted and not particularly skillful commander of the forces attacking Bath. He is currently MIA, and neither he nor any other officer in the force has yet discovered the attainment is in place. His subordinates are mostly also incompetant, and are busy fighting the dyellians. Would likely surrender to FKC if he found out about the attainment, but several officers, and most of the soldiers, would not. (notably senior Gillespie, the most competent of the senior officers in the force)

Earl Piro Goeth: believed to be disobeying attainment order
Commands the army froces currently with the Fasta benjian fleet off Cyro. believed to have obeyed the tzar, but this is unconfirmed. Is intelligent and a good strategist. the fasta benjian intelligence agency would like to point out he is only moderately loyal to the tzar, and could be perhaps be bribed, if the offer was large enough.

Baron Nisroch Baraqyal: Obeying attainment.
Commander of the airforces of Fasta Benj. All planes are currently sitting on runways with missiles disarmed and stacked neatly beside them. (OOC: the air war is actually taking place slightly in the past, due to the way I macde the initial attack post. all aircraft surving this were rtb'd and disarmed.) unlikely to return to tzars side

Baron Regulus O'Brian: Disobeying attainment.
Commander of Christchurch defense effort. I s partially complying with orders, having ceased counterattacking the dyelli beybians advancing on his positons, but is standing ready to defend the city. will stand down and comply if the DBians cease their advance and announce to him a cease fire. However, is fiercely loyal to the tzar, and will be very mad if anything happens to Henry. He probably would not disobey the attainer in this circumstance, but it would best be avoided.

Warlord Patrick Rofocale: obeying attainment
Commands rest of fasta benjs defensive forces, which are complying with the FKCs orders, especially as most of them are more loyal to the FKC than to the tzar. Has dispatched the Provosts and commisariat to arrest anyone disobeying attainment. Provosts approaching Christchurch were arested by troop details.

Commisariat:Status unknown
set up with the dual aim of ensuring loyalty to the tzar, and ensuring loyalty to the FKC privy council. these two aims are currently conflicting, and each commisar i being forced to make their own call. appears to be taking orders from Warlord Rofocale at present, though it is unclear to what extent he can actually control them, and whether they are obeying, or merely pretending to.

Disclaimer:
Some of this Information may or may not be incorrect or incomplete.
This has been done on purpose. :twisted:
now you know as much as your intelligence agencies could probably gather. (well, theres a lot of history and personal info on each char, and physical descriptions etc, but this will not affect the story, so i didn't bother including it.
feel free to make requests for more intel on any of these charachters, any unit in the army or info on general situations.

Hmm, Well I'm going to make things even more confusing...

First, Fasta I need a map of D.B. and Fasta Benji that I can read the cities names on...

Second, Isn't Christchurch a city on your side of the boarder a coastal city?


Alright, I'm sending in the 3rd Alconian Heavy Armored division under a JDF flag...
Which is about damn...well I'll post it when I find my damn disk with all the equipment lists on it...f***

The small taskforce heading for Christchurch?:
2 Battleships...(same class that Vrak uses but higher AA/defensive weapons designed by Fik)
2 Escort Carriers
1 Landing Ship
3 Support Landing Craft
6 Multi-purpose crusiers...
If you want more details you can ask but their not 'attacking'

Hmm, Well I'm going to make things even more confusing...

First, Fasta I need a map of D.B. and Fasta Benji that I can read the cities names on...

Second, Isn't Christchurch a city on your side of the boarder a coastal city?


Alright, I'm sending in the 3rd Alconian Heavy Armored division under a JDF flag...
Which is about damn...well I'll post it when I find my damn disk with all the equipment lists on it...f***

The small taskforce heading for Christchurch?:
2 Battleships...(same class that Vrak uses but higher AA/defensive weapons designed by Fik)
2 Escort Carriers
1 Landing Ship
3 Support Landing Craft
6 Multi-purpose crusiers...
If you want more details you can ask but their not 'attacking'

Alcona, is this the task force that is linking up with us in Squall strait? Needless to say, our North Polar fleet is quite a bit larger but I'll put some numbers up soon.

FUCK THIS FUCK---IN' ASS HOLE PLACE WITH HORSE SHIT!!!!

f--- THIS f------IN' ASS HOLE PLACE WITH HORSE SHIT!!!!

Please stay out of this thread and all threads relating to this thread, dummy.

Hmm, Well I'm going to make things even more confusing...

First, Fasta I need a map of D.B. and Fasta Benji that I can read the cities names on...

Second, Isn't Christchurch a city on your side of the boarder a coastal city?


Alright, I'm sending in the 3rd Alconian Heavy Armored division under a JDF flag...
Which is about damn...well I'll post it when I find my damn disk with all the equipment lists on it...f***

The small taskforce heading for Christchurch?:
2 Battleships...(same class that Vrak uses but higher AA/defensive weapons designed by Fik)
2 Escort Carriers
1 Landing Ship
3 Support Landing Craft
6 Multi-purpose crusiers...
If you want more details you can ask but their not 'attacking'

Alcona, is this the task force that is linking up with us in Squall strait? Needless to say, our North Polar fleet is quite a bit larger but I'll put some numbers up soon.

No that is my main Battle Taskforce...Taskforce Wayvern and Taskforce Hammer which both are fairly large. This is a few ships I still have lying around...although I did unlock 2 of my battleships for this...I need to buy about five more actually...so no...tell me when you get to the grand straits...
Damn posted with my fantasy puppet...

Continuing in the correct persona...

Ah Fasta do you mind if one of my little torpedo boats picks the man off the beach? I just thought of a great plot twist.

No that is my main Battle Taskforce...Taskforce Wayvern and Taskforce Hammer which both are fairly large. This is a few ships I still have lying around...although I did unlock 2 of my battleships for this...I need to buy about five more actually...so no...tell me when you get to the grand straits...
Damn posted with my fantasy puppet...

Basically, I should be at the straits now. Takes a bit of time to travel from where we are. I'm looking for an old map to find my bearings. As well, and I hate to ask this of you Fasta since I know you're a busy student but do you have a more detailed map of the theater in question available? I think there are two main areas if I'm not mistaken:

1) the stuff going on in Dyelli Beybi and whatever fleets are outside there
2) the stuff outside of AWM

Perhaps someone can whip up a basic map . The FKC map can be found here. (http://www.freewebs.com/klatchia/maps.htm)

WEll then Taskforce Wayvern is catching up with you...I need to find my damn ship lists to make it up but I do have four more Myth class carriers in that plus 4 escort carriers with them.
2 battleships
Crusiers and Frigates
I also have Rotodyene AWACS
and torpedo boats with towed sonar arrays...

But again that is a rough outline of what is there...
Hammer I have to dig up...

No that is my main Battle Taskforce...Taskforce Wayvern and Taskforce Hammer which both are fairly large. This is a few ships I still have lying around...although I did unlock 2 of my battleships for this...I need to buy about five more actually...so no...tell me when you get to the grand straits...
Damn posted with my fantasy puppet...

Basically, I should be at the straits now. Takes a bit of time to travel from where we are. I'm looking for an old map to find my bearings. As well, and I hate to ask this of you Fasta since I know you're a busy student but do you have a more detailed map of the theater in question available? I think there are two main areas if I'm not mistaken:

1) the stuff going on in Dyelli Beybi and whatever fleets are outside there
2) the stuff outside of AWM

Perhaps someone can whip up a basic map . The FKC map can be found here. (http://www.freewebs.com/klatchia/maps.htm)


The stuff outside of AWM is actually outside DB :P



And to Kelanthia: Therefore, as you were not going to fire on a passing naval presence, my actions regarding your subs did not occour.


And. My subs have been sitting on the bottom since my fleet first moved in, hence my use of the word "months". We spotted your subs moving into position

[ooc: As such, Kelanthia has not conferred with her allies, either Drakonia, or Glorious Humanity regarding a reversal of the Rules of Engangement. To me, this means that I can do whatever it takes to keep my men safe. As Kelanthia's actions are not sanctioned by Drakonia, or Glorious Humanity, my actions toward Kelanthia are not in any related to the Glorious Humanity / Drakonia conflict, AND AS SUCH, my actions taken to negate this threat have no bearing on what these other nations may, or may not do in retelation.
If, Kelanthia decides it wishes to reverse its decision to Fire upon any threat, then this action will not have been taken. If Kelanthia does decide to continue with this course of action, then nothing will have changed]

Terribly sorry, I was unclear -- although the sub captains have permission to fire at any target, they will not do so unless attacked or given a direct threat. This is standard Kelanthian training and operational procedure -- I know I did not say so, and I offer profuse apologies. Just for future reference, here is a listing of Kelanthian Rules of Engagement levels:

ROE 1 – war level. Forces are free to attack targets of opportunity at will.
ROE 2 – forces may fire on any target they deem to be a direct and imminent threat; they need not be directly targeted. Targets of opportunity may not be attacked without explicit authorization.
ROE 3 – forces may fire on any target deemed to be a direct and imminent threat, but in order to constitute a direct and imminent threat, the enemy must be actively targeting the Kelanthian force. Targets of opportunity may not be attacked without explicit authorization.
ROE 4 – forces may fire on any target that has fired on them first. Targets of opportunity may not be attacked without explicit authorization.
ROE 5 – forces may only fire weapons with explicit permission from the Ministry of Defense, unless the commanding officer feels that the safety of his command has been compromised and defensive actions must be taken. No blatantly offensive fire without direct Ministry of Defense permission. Targets of opportunity may not be attacked without explicit authorization.

My subs were at ROE 2; thus, they would not attack any targets of opportunity unless the skippers felt that their command was threatened. A fleet sailing by without provoking the subs would not draw fire. That is the very reason I didn’t inform the other 2 of the plans is because I didn’t think that defensive measures needed to be cleared by allies.

Also, how did you know that they were at ROE 2? Unless you intercepted and decoded the FLASH transmission – and you didn’t say you did – I don’t know how you figured out IC that you had to eliminate them to guarantee safe passage for your vessels (which would be unnecessary as per the above paragraph, but you couldn’t have known that).

Quick question – how did you detect my subs? It was 10 ultraquiet subs basically laying on the bottom of the ocean and not moving! Seawolf subs (from which my Orcas are derivatives) are pretty damn quiet, and besides, we would have noticed an active sonar if it was strong enough to reach us. Then, you claim use of another active sonar and said it was “discussed” and you decided to attack. If you were close enough to detect me with active sonar, the Orcas would have seen you pinging them, figured out you sure weren’t friendly, and fired while you were “discussing;” I believe active sonar works both ways in that the person using it finds their target, but also advertises their position. Plus, we would have probably noticed their talking on an underwater telephone. I don’t make any pretensions to being an expert at submarine sonar abilities/underwater telephone abilities, but that seems obvious that my subs wouldn’t sit around dumbly after being targeted twice with active sonar and hearing chatter on a telephone. If you know more about the technical side of this than me, please comment and fix my mistakes. :)

About the Drakonian/GH fleet – how did you escape detection by them if you went around them and then used active sonar BEFORE the explosions masked engine noise? If active sonar advertises your presence, I would guess that they would notice, and probably not be very happy about you being there.

One last thing: what do you mean by this not having any bearing on the Drakonia/GH conflict? The only reason I got involved is that Drakonia asked me to. I am only in it to protect him in any way necessary; I sent forces because the Drakonian/GH fleet was massing and I figured it could use a little help. I have no quarrel with any FKC members outside of this conflict – as far as I knew, my deployment is part of the conflict.

So, as soon as we can clear some things up, I will post damages and losses. I’d like to know how you knew to hunt the subs down, how the sonar detected them at long range, how you avoided detection by the Drakonian/GH fleet, and how you thought I was involved by having forces. I apologize in advance if this seems confrontational – reading back through it, I see how it could be taken that way – but I assure you that I did not mean it that way. I just wanted to iron out a few questions I had about the actions you took. :)


Herm.
1) All my ships use sonars. Usually very long range ones.
The subs that i am using are:
171*13*11m
have 12" armour
Use Soft blade, Brick Game, WLR8, and Nixie systems, They use BQR15, USSR4T, TB23, Tamir5L, 2001 sonar systems. And use SINS combat analysers, LN70 GPS systems, and 2x High Pole A IFF systems


Sure, using active sonar, you might get pinged, but you need to spot WHERE from. Remember i had a battlegroup force coming in. My ASW frigates are a little lethal..

My post regarding the battle has been deleted. Now I gotta come up with another one.

Just so I'm perfectly clear... no shots have really been fired, and AWM's subs are sitting near the Drakonian/GH fleets watching?

/me nods

Sorry for the delay.

Vrakian North Polar fleet:

3 aircraft carriers - Kreml class
6 battleships - 4 Soyuz III class, 2 B-61 class
9 cruisers - Kirov class
30 destroyers - 15 Berkut-B Kara classs, 15 Sovremenny class
30 frigates - Neustrashimy class
6 attack subs - Shuka-B Akula class
about 4-5 oilers.

Admiral "Red" Killamo is aboard his flagship, the VNF Boarhunter - an aircraft carrier.

As well, my land forces in Dyelli Bebyi are making there way to Cyro. Been having trouble following if they might have encounted anything plus I need a map of some kind. The old map (the real old one) is hard to pick out the cities in Dyelli Beybi. The forces heading into Axe are going for his coast - mainly since I thought that the ships from Britmattia were over there.

Let me know if my numbers sound okay. Keep in mind that I'm not deploying my full fleet at all, since I'm concerned about the waters in the Polar Sea (that is, west of Vrak and north of Dukratus).

Herm.
1) All my ships use sonars. Usually very long range ones.
The subs that i am using are:
171*13*11m
have 12" armour
Use Soft blade, Brick Game, WLR8, and Nixie systems, They use BQR15, USSR4T, TB23, Tamir5L, 2001 sonar systems. And use SINS combat analysers, LN70 GPS systems, and 2x High Pole A IFF systems


Sure, using active sonar, you might get pinged, but you need to spot WHERE from. Remember i had a battlegroup force coming in. My ASW frigates are a little lethal..

OK -- not sure about that, but since I know next to nothing about sonar systems, I won't argue that. Plus, if you had other subs there to detect them coming in first, then it's OK. :)

why on earth did you put IFF on a submarine? And from memory a lot of your ships have no sonar and no stuff to fight off submarines.

Also I might add I never sold AWM any nuclear weapons. He was using Polaris missiles which I don't even have.

Sorry for the delay.

Vrakian North Polar fleet:

3 aircraft carriers - Kreml class
6 battleships - 4 Soyuz III class, 2 B-61 class
9 cruisers - Kirov class
30 destroyers - 15 Berkut-B Kara classs, 15 Sovremenny class
30 frigates - Neustrashimy class
6 attack subs - Shuka-B Akula class
about 4-5 oilers.

Admiral "Red" Killamo is aboard his flagship, the VNF Boarhunter - an aircraft carrier.

As well, my land forces in Dyelli Bebyi are making there way to Cyro. Been having trouble following if they might have encounted anything plus I need a map of some kind. The old map (the real old one) is hard to pick out the cities in Dyelli Beybi. The forces heading into Axe are going for his coast - mainly since I thought that the ships from Britmattia were over there.

Let me know if my numbers sound okay. Keep in mind that I'm not deploying my full fleet at all, since I'm concerned about the waters in the Polar Sea (that is, west of Vrak and north of Dukratus).

Well with the Vrak North Polar Fleet is Alconian Taskforce Wyvern and Taskforce Hammer

ARN Myth, Myth Class Aircraft Carrier (Soviet Haggard Amorth Class)
2- Light Aircraft Carriers-Bath Class (Clarcla)
4-Bar Class Cruisers (Clarca Command Cruiser AGEIS)
20-Mark Class Cruisers (Clarca anti-air crusiers)
60-Maxium Class Destroyers (Clarca-mulipurpose)*
10 EM-20 Frigates

ARN Whenhill+2, Whenhill Class Assult Carriers (1,000 Marines+40 Kobi Tanks)
2-Regal Class Battlecrusiers (10 16 inch guns, WWII)
35 Mark Class Cruisers
25 Maxium Class Destroyers
5 Frigates of various type...
6 WWII Topedo Destroyers...**

4 Landing Ships (900 Marines+APC)
4 Support Landing Craft (300 Marines)
6 Liberty Ships
2 Tankers

*Alright yes I happen to be very medium ship happy...my navy is heavly biased toward destroyers and cruisers....like a massive investment in them.

**I should note that these are carrying dual towed sonar and a nasty little hydroponic noise admitter and a computer with the signal processing ability to remove the 'noise' that it is generating...basicly your only going to hear them...of course I'm going to have to turn them off due to Vrak's subs...damn...

edit made a mistake in troop numbers

Okay, listen Drakonia and Tersanctus and anyone else involved in the 'Liberation of Al Anbar' thread:

Either we start to pick up the pace or I win without RPing the rest of the war. This thing has been going on for such a long time now, with only two or three posts every week. Either we get really into this war by tomorrow or I simply will declare myself victor and you can consider yourself as losers in this war.

I want to move onto OTHER THINGS already. Today is the last day.

I will try to stay neutral to a situation like this because it is best to not be involved in a conflict if you don't need to. I think I am saying this just because my nation is name the US which is ironic :roll: .

Okay, listen Drakonia and Tersanctus and anyone else involved in the 'Liberation of Al Anbar' thread:

Either we start to pick up the pace or I win without RPing the rest of the war. This thing has been going on for such a long time now, with only two or three posts every week. Either we get really into this war by tomorrow or I simply will declare myself victor and you can consider yourself as losers in this war.

I want to move onto OTHER THINGS already. Today is the last day.

Okay, I'll try up the pressure, but keep in mind I have College Exams this week. Fortunately, this week looks a lot less stressful than last week and I actually, have some free time. So I will try.

Anyway, Tersanctus and ADK, we are at Stage 3 with a rapid movement to Stage 4. I'll update the information on Stage 4 and get Stage five up ASAP.

Al Anbar, I am now using Wild Weasel Flights to establish air superiority over Syria.

EDIT: If you want this to move along Al Anbar you need to be more active and available yourself.

All right, I will be posting a little more now, Al Anbar,in the interest of moving things along can we assume that the third task force has taken Al Hasakah? I will post some casualties and damages of course, but I didnt really have the time to work on them, and as you said this has drug out long enough...

All right, I will be posting a little more now, Al Anbar,in the interest of moving things along can we assume that the third task force has taken Al Hasakah? I will post some casualties and damages of course, but I didnt really have the time to work on them, and as you said this has drug out long enough...

Al Hasakah, Halab (Aleppo), and Ar Raqqah have all stopped resisting. My MPs are searching out Weapons Caches and Terrorists in each city at the moment. I will try to get a post to that degree in my next set of posts. Just waiting on Al Anbar now.

My troops that moved into Dyelli Beybi are proceeding to Cyro. What is the name of the city second to last upriver? Going by the old map, its name overlaps a big "D". Anyhow, if there is a lot of of resistance south of that place, my guys would hole up there, since there seems to be a rail link from Vrak to that city.

If things are clear, then they would start heading south. The heavy equipment would still be in the railcars. But if there is some resistance - then the equipment would have been offloaded. Basically, that city is serving as a base for troops to pour in from Vrak. Does that place have an airbase?

For Axe, I think it would be safe to say that my troops are currently in the nearest large city closest to the Vrakian corridor. Hard for me to tell which city since there are no names.

I have my last Exam today, so I will try to catch up on everything. I have been able to stay up on Al Anbar and do a little on NS, but keeping up the Nuclear and Negotations threads has evaded me. Can some give me a quick update summary and I will try to catch up by reading ASAP. Thanks for you patience all.

My troops that moved into Dyelli Beybi are proceeding to Cyro. What is the name of the city second to last upriver? Going by the old map, its name overlaps a big "D". Anyhow, if there is a lot of of resistance south of that place, my guys would hole up there, since there seems to be a rail link from Vrak to that city.

If things are clear, then they would start heading south. The heavy equipment would still be in the railcars. But if there is some resistance - then the equipment would have been offloaded. Basically, that city is serving as a base for troops to pour in from Vrak. Does that place have an airbase?

For Axe, I think it would be safe to say that my troops are currently in the nearest large city closest to the Vrakian corridor. Hard for me to tell which city since there are no names.

The city is called Alexigrad. The Vrakians won't be allowed in there as the Socialists are building something secret.

My troops that moved into Dyelli Beybi are proceeding to Cyro. What is the name of the city second to last upriver? Going by the old map, its name overlaps a big "D". Anyhow, if there is a lot of of resistance south of that place, my guys would hole up there, since there seems to be a rail link from Vrak to that city.

If things are clear, then they would start heading south. The heavy equipment would still be in the railcars. But if there is some resistance - then the equipment would have been offloaded. Basically, that city is serving as a base for troops to pour in from Vrak. Does that place have an airbase?

For Axe, I think it would be safe to say that my troops are currently in the nearest large city closest to the Vrakian corridor. Hard for me to tell which city since there are no names.

The city is called Alexigrad. The Vrakians won't be allowed in there as the Socialists are building something secret.

Dyelli, okay. According to the map that city would be the closest from the Vrakian corridor, is it not? Any smaller cities along the way from the corridor to Alexigrad? It's possible that my ground troops did not get the latest update in what Parliament is up to (that is, attainment on your nuclear assets) so as far as they know, they are still out to defend the Klatch. I'm not sure how your railways go here, since if the Vrakians can't get into Alexigrad they might have to offload and then go along the river in their equipment. Slower for sure.

Would it be possible to get a listing of the major cities starting with Cyro and then going upriver please?

Who has what in the Medaterranean?

I am currently supporting my ally United Kurdistan in the event of Al Anbari aggression and need to know.

PS: United Kurdistan should be taken into account, no one claim their land on them.

Who has what in the Medaterranean?

I am currently supporting my ally United Kurdistan in the event of Al Anbari aggression and need to know.

PS: United Kurdistan should be taken into account, no one claim their land on them.

You are not a part of this RP. Please stay out.

Secondly, United Kurdistan does not 'claim' or 'own' anything in Al Anbar, so please, cease saying that.

Drakonia: What about Idlib? The fierce fighting going on there?

Who has what in the Medaterranean?

I am currently supporting my ally United Kurdistan in the event of Al Anbari aggression and need to know.

PS: United Kurdistan should be taken into account, no one claim their land on them.

You are not a part of this RP. Please stay out.

Secondly, United Kurdistan does not 'claim' or 'own' anything in Al Anbar, so please, cease saying that.

Well, if there are two events going on at the same time they will bump against each other.

And just because United Kurdistan has claimed that area does not mean you have to recognize the claim. History has repeatedly shown that.

Who has what in the Medaterranean?

I am currently supporting my ally United Kurdistan in the event of Al Anbari aggression and need to know.

PS: United Kurdistan should be taken into account, no one claim their land on them.

You are not a part of this RP. Please stay out.

Secondly, United Kurdistan does not 'claim' or 'own' anything in Al Anbar, so please, cease saying that.

Well, if there are two events going on at the same time they will bump against each other.

And just because United Kurdistan has claimed that area does not mean you have to recognize the claim. History has repeatedly shown that.

Well, unless you plan to invade me, they shouldn't 'bump' into each other. :)

And I know. I could claim your land for myself, no difference. They're both outrageous claims. :)

Drakonia: What about Idlib? The fierce fighting going on there?

Yeah, I assume. I'll try to get a post to the like tonight, if I have time. Damn, I've got a lot to catch up in. *Sighs Heavily and get to work on the file posts in a dozen threads he needs to do*

Who has what in the Medaterranean?

I am currently supporting my ally United Kurdistan in the event of Al Anbari aggression and need to know.

PS: United Kurdistan should be taken into account, no one claim their land on them.

You are not a part of this RP. Please stay out.

Secondly, United Kurdistan does not 'claim' or 'own' anything in Al Anbar, so please, cease saying that.

Well, if there are two events going on at the same time they will bump against each other.

And just because United Kurdistan has claimed that area does not mean you have to recognize the claim. History has repeatedly shown that.

Well, unless you plan to invade me, they shouldn't 'bump' into each other. :)

And I know. I could claim your land for myself, no difference. They're both outrageous claims. :)

Not that outrageous, after all you don't border me, Kurdistan(RL) includes a portion of Iraq and Syria a nation RPing as Kurdistan would obviously try to claim that land, hence the roots of this conflict.

Whether or not I move to invade you, my forces are present in the region I wish to keep them safe. Also if they occupy you at the end of this then UK should by default gain at least a better position to annex the rest of Kurdistan.

why on earth did you put IFF on a submarine? And from memory a lot of your ships have no sonar and no stuff to fight off submarines.

Also I might add I never sold AWM any nuclear weapons. He was using Polaris missiles which I don't even have.

Darn, my secret is out!

Erm, now you have had another look at my shiplist, you still think that i have nothing to fight them off with?

Aquarius class ASW Frigate
Dimensions :
148 * 15 * 6

Speed :
35 Knots

Equipment :
Sky Watch
Low Sieve
Corvus
170b
USSR4T
WM-22/6

Weapons :
9x Sea Sparrow
18x Silex
4x Tomohawk
3x Starfish
5x 20mm Phalanx CIWS

Ok, it's not perfect, but.. 18x Silex ASW conventional missiles + 3 starfish ASW bombs nothing to shoot up subs with

;)

To DB. Okay, if you mistakingly misidentified the city, then I can assume that my troops are secure in that one city closest to the corridor (and will use it as a jumping off point and depot for more Vrakian troops if needed) and proceeding South. Let's assume that one light infantry division (2500+ troops) is behind securing the necessary rail links, barracks, etc... To save time, can we assume that my troops are now outside Alexigrad? That is, they are being prevented from reaching Cyro proper. That way, we don't have to lose the post. If my troops would have encountered resistance while following the river let me know and I'll do an RP post.

Axe, what is the name of your city closest to the south easterly part of the Vrakian corridor? It looks to be on a plain.

edit: Egad. I forgot to add this. Would my troops see that tank beast DB? Keep in mind that if you are using fairly large buildings as cover and my men aren't scanning the city intensively. As well, I don't have any spotter helicopters up nor access to satellite surveillance - since, well, you guys aren't a target. :lol:

(OOC) Oops sorry. The City in the North by the coridoor is Agua Pura. It's full of street to street fighting between Tzarists and Socialiststs.

Alexigrad is South, just North of Cyro it's a base for a flotilla of river boats and has quite a few factories. The tank would be impossible to miss from satelite or observation. It's making a lot of noise, mainly because it is somewhat widening the road by it's passing. It is also painted in a variety of garrish colours and they are making no attempt to hide it. It is a huge niosy colourful box, which by the time it gets out of the city will be moving fast and kicking up a huge cload of dust.

(OOC) Without Fasta Benj this war will be very hard to finish off. Damn it!

I'm online today.... I can guarentee getting online at least once in the next two days, and again at christmas eve. thats about it till new years

*Points Fasta and Dyelli toward the Negotiations Thread* I get another post on that later tonight, when I get back. I also will address the defecting Benjians then too. Sorry, all, I am just catching up.

Vrak, is there a way I can chat with you quickly?

I'm now on:
AIM: freelancer112
MSN: freelancer112@hotmail.com
Yahoo: augustusdrake

And also on mIRC.

At this moment, I'm afraid not. I should be on mIRC in about 4-5 hours though, but not guaranteed. My work computer (right now) has certain restrictions as to what programs can be loaded onto it and I don't think AIM or MSN messenger qualifies.

My time zone is GMT+9 if that helps any.

Don't worry about it then we can chat here. I will be asleep in four to five hours hopefully. A side note, both Yahoo Messenger (http://messenger.yahoo.com) (click Beta link at the bottom of the page) and AIM (http://www.aol.com) (click the AIM link on the page) are now capable of being used in a browser window, without being downloaded.

Anyway, to the point. I was wondering if Landgravine would support a full disarmement of all nuclear weapons between both Dyelli Beybi and Fasta Benj? I would provide them with my own missile defense network as collatoral. And they both would not have to worry about each other, or now AWM (who agreed to full nuclear disarmament).

To be perfectly honest, we hate meddlers. But telegram Alcona and see what he says. You can reach me on Yahoo messenger. I'm xpviking.

edit: Ugh. When I say "we" here I can only speak for my own nation, Vrak.

Unfortunately i would have to agree with Vrak

Well actually, at the moment D.B is under military attainer for nuclear weapons and facilities while Fasta is under a full military attainer. So the in reality the Landgravine will not support 'disarmament' but seizure...
It was a four to 1 vote for so...

Vrak, sorry about the "French" remark, but it was meant ICly, not OOCly. It is simply name-calling media and political manuevering.

Anyway, all FKC, the Imperium will only feel safe when there are no more nukes pointed at it. And if that requires the destruction of our entire military we will do it without a second thought. We had hope the negotiations would accomplish this.

OOCly I state again that Drakonia has no-WMDs. We disarmed years ago, but that is back story. It would have been just after the Raeman Coup, when I went hunting for anti-elf weapons, but since then the Imperium has through out and destroyed all WMDs which it has been doing with the Fasta Benjian sub weapons surrendered at Benquia Harbor in the Grenadines. I destroy WMDs, not build them.

Nevermind. Mis post

Drak: ICly, Vrak doesn't know who these "French" people are. :) ICly, when you say "we have no WMDs" yet launch an ICBM, well, the Vrakians don't believe you nor trust you.

OOCly, don't worry about the "French" remark.

Carmayar: who are you? Are you part of this thread and war in any form?

Carmayar: who are you? Are you part of this thread and war in any form?

Not really
But My country is where Kuwaiit is today, and is the quivilant of it. I had origonally posted about people using my land to drop troops off into Al Anbar

but That was from a different incident. I just read through this and realized this was from a while back

Sorry for the inconvience

Carmayar: Just didn't know who you were at all. It's okay.

Say Drakonia, if this ever does come to a head, I've counted that these following nations offered their support to you:

Britmattia *
Aramar *
Glorious Humanity *
Fyreheart *
Nankin Isla de Penguinata *
Vyse King of Rogues *
Scandavian States *
Kelanthia
East Turkestan

*Were invited to Nekoa Bay.

Certainly, the political landscape may have changed but at the moment, these nations are not within your region proper. Which leads me to believe that they are allies that you called up and probably expect to have in case war does break out. If you want this to become a closed RP, then I think it's only proper that the FKC call upon an equal amount of allies. At the very least, some kind of agreement should be reached to make sure it doesn't turn into an ignore fest. I'm also thinking here any possible puppets from either side. That is, if nation A has one puppet then can Nation B use one puppet too?

Dyelli Beybi will be unpredictable if war comes. The Socialists have basically won the war and they're feeling very cocky.