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Anti-Imperialism Squad To Be Formed (NAIA)

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New Genoa
29-09-2003, 01:40
In response to the massive and utterly unnecessary imperialism occurring on this world we call Earth, New Genoa has decided to found the NAIA or Nations Against Imperialism Association, otherwise known as the "Anti-Imperialism Squad." Any nations interested in joining post below.

NAIA Alert Thread (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2368773)

As you have all probably heard, I'm now the president of the NAIA generally becuase New Genoa gave up on trying to get us active and out there... I suppose the "Invading over Imperialism" thing kinda held us back, though I'm still going to make sure we don't become imperialist by invading imperialists, it would be against the interests of the alliance.

Definition of Imperialism: The policy of extending a nation's authority by territorial acquisition or by the establishment of economic and political hegemony over other nations.

So what do our members have and why be allied in such a way?

Well, I'm going to try and answer that now the best I can.

Firstly by being a member you will know nation you can contact should you get in trouble as well as having a reason to contact them (being in a alliance).

Members should feel compelled to help Members providing it doesn't go against any other alliance/agreement they are in, however in such a case they shouldn't get involved (at least with the non-NAIA side of it).

Some of the members have offered better prices for NAIA members as well as selling technology to those who want it or need it... they may even give it to you should they feel compelled to do so.

This alliance also gives us links to another set of nations we may not have had contact with before, opening up new possibilities as well as opportunities.


So what do you do in this alliance?

Our aim is to help protect against imperialism the best we can, however as I'm sure you all know, some imperialists are too big to topple and as such we don't have to help against every imperialist action that should take place... we are not looking for a fight, we are just doing the best we can to deter people from violent exspansion.

Basically we would prefer that you use the forums "alert" section to bring action to our attention, you could use this thread as has been done many a time in the past, but we have forums that will allow for some privacy for planning and the such. I've not the the URL at the moment... it's in the thread around page 5-7 somewhere but i'll look later when I'm not using WinWord to write this at work.

Eitherway, you alert us and then we will (as individual nation) decide on whether they can afford the resources to dedicate themselves to a possible conflict. There may be a occasional whip in order when we want as many members in it as possible, but it would still be voluntary... I would just prefer that you at least tell us why.


What can't you do?

1. Anything which could be concidered an imperialistic action. Lets face it, if you are an imperialist, why are you in a anti-imperialist alliance?

2. Slavery. I think this was a moralistic addition put in by the founder of the alliance, New Genoa. I still agree with this rule and as such it will stay, we don't want slavers in our alliance becuase it is more trouble then it is worth...

3. Genocide. Genocide is bad... lets face it, how can anyone claim moral highground when they are doing this... we won't have anyone who does this in our alliance.

Remember, the original rules state that you should be against these... lets try to stick to it.

Exceptions: If you've not done any of these recently (within the past few months) then we will have the alliance concider your joining... it will be held to vote within the forums where members can make their arguements. We except that some members may have once commited imperialist actions, but then again, we all have things in our history we are not proud of... so if it's not too recent, we may accept you anyways.

Thats pretty much it, I hope this has been enough to explain a our outlook on things, it is also subject to change with debate with current members... oh and can you all just please re-confirm your membership status of this alliance becuase I'm sure some of us (if not most) have given up on this venture, but I want to know what I can salvage.

Thanks, James deGritz, leader of Iuthia

Benefits include discounts on products from alliance members and other various rights to certain products.

Any form of government from an autocracy to an empire to a republic is welcome as long as you obey these rules.

That is all.

Official Forum: n/a -- server crash

NAIA Members (Active)

Agrigento
East Islandia
Ell
Free Outer Eugenia
New Empire - Head of R&D
Realdunda
Sambizie
Tiburon
West Warwick
Maropian Coast
Galdania
West Coral Sea
Tilsitsin
Cirdanistan
Crosshill
Unum Veritas
New Genoa

NAIA Members (Inactive)

Grunge-France
Amphib Guinea

NAIA Allies (Not in the NAIA alliance, but supportive)

Omz222

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The Free Republic of New Genoa
29-09-2003, 01:41
Oh im shaking.
29-09-2003, 01:42
Can I Join? :? :D
Penguenia
29-09-2003, 01:42
Penguenia can spare 1,000 Imperial Guardswomen of our homeguard to this cause. This is all we will be able to detail to this casue due to the fact that 7,000 of our 10,000 woman army is in space, and 2,000 of our homeguard must always stay in Penguenia. Although we ourselves are an Empire, we do not Imperialize by force.

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General Neesa Jade, Grand Commander of the Penguenain Imperial Guard
Penguenian Lady Guard (http://boards.gamers.com/messages/overview.asp?name=Penguenia)
29-09-2003, 01:42
"Would they hurry up and just destroy each other?"- President Oladsky to an aide.
Unum Veritas
29-09-2003, 01:43
The Armed Republic of Unum Veritas expresses its interest in this new alliance. Although there are a few other countries under the Veritasean flag, they were all acquired by OOC means (my friends got tired of playing). This is not meant to be imperialism. We are also completely against imperialistic nations, and would gladly join an alliance meant to stop them. What exactly would this association do?
29-09-2003, 01:45
The Armed Republic of Unum Veritas expresses its interest in this new alliance. Although there are a few other countries under the Veritasean flag, they were all acquired by OOC means (my friends got tired of playing). This is not meant to be imperialism. We are also completely against imperialistic nations, and would gladly join an alliance meant to stop them. What exactly would this association do?

Tilsitsin is likewise interested in this alliance and also requests further clarification..
New Genoa
29-09-2003, 01:46
Penguiena has been accepted.

Unum Veritas: The alliance would most likely intervene against true imperialistic nations (only when the attempt to imperialize of course) by both military and economic and diplomatic means. Imperialist nations NOT worth RPing with, however, will be ign0red.

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The Free Republic of New Genoa
29-09-2003, 01:47
Can I Join? :? :D
Omz222
29-09-2003, 01:47
We will see about this organization.
New Genoa
29-09-2003, 01:48
I suppose... but first promise to stop capitalizing the first letter of every word! :P
29-09-2003, 01:49
Uhmm... dont mean to spam your thread, but if MagicCCrater version 3 fits the OK RPer statement, so do I :shock:
Unum Veritas
29-09-2003, 01:49
And how much would nations joining be required to donate? Full military and economic strength? A percentage of each? etc. etc...
Ruschi
29-09-2003, 01:49
The Principality of Ruschi also expresses its interest in this comradery, but isn't quite sure if it wants to form just any alliance yet at the moment.

OOC: In other words, let me make up my mind. I also don't want to have to change regions.
Omz222
29-09-2003, 01:49
I suppose... but first promise to stop capitalizing the first letter of every word! :P
We are against Lands of Ages in joining this organization.

Let's not remember how he carpetnuked Islamaisbad.

Foreign Affairs Ministry
29-09-2003, 01:50
Thanks NewGenoa we love you! Ok Thanks Want me to make a foum for the alliance?
imported_Ell
29-09-2003, 01:50
Ell is interested in joining, as we have been the target of many imperialist invasions.
Omz222
29-09-2003, 01:50
Uhmm... dont mean to spam your thread, but if MagicCCrater version 3 fits the OK RPer statement, so do I :shock:
OOC: This is one time I have to agree.

If LoA joins, co can Bisons.
Unum Veritas
29-09-2003, 01:51
I suppose... but first promise to stop capitalizing the first letter of every word! :P
We are against Lands of Ages in joining this organization.

Let's not remember how he carpetnuked Islamaisbad.

Foreign Affairs Ministry

We stand with Omz on this one....we only know him by reputation but we also wish to state our misgivings as to his joining.
New Genoa
29-09-2003, 01:51
Oh, come on! Just let him slide. I mean he was carpetnuked also... which is why he got accepted: out of freakin' sympathy.

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The Free Republic of New Genoa
Omz222
29-09-2003, 01:51
We are considering joining this alliance.

But before that, we have to protest Lands of Ages joining. Lands of Ages is known to attempt to hire the Invasion Squad to invade Omzian Democratic Republic.

Foreign Affairs Ministry
29-09-2003, 01:51
Thanks NG Want me to make a forum?
Iuthia
29-09-2003, 01:52
Count me in, I think Iuthia will make a valid enterant to this Anti-Imperialist Allience. We are a strong nation and we tend to defend other nations from invasion when we can.

Iuthian Defence Treaty (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1484531#1484531)

Plus see my Vampire Conference Thread for details on my RP (which I've been told by Rave, is pretty good, at least in that thread)

I have pointed out to many nations now that I will join in attacks against them if they use WMD (without provocation) or commit crimes against humanity.


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Lord General deGritz, leader of Iuthia
More information about Iuthia.... (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=41124&highlight=)
Iuthian Defence Treaty (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1484531#1484531)
Urbanites Region (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=display_region/region=Urbanites)
Omz222
29-09-2003, 01:52
Oh, come on! Just let him slide. I mean he was carpetnuked also... which is why he got accepted: out of freakin' sympathy.

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The Free Republic of New Genoa
OOC: He hired geforce4 and his invasion squad to invade me.
imported_Ell
29-09-2003, 01:53
Oh, come on! Just let him slide. I mean he was carpetnuked also... which is why he got accepted: out of freakin' sympathy.

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The Free Republic of New Genoa
OOC: He hired geforce4 and his invasion squad to invade me.

and his spelling is absolutely awful.
New Genoa
29-09-2003, 01:53
LoA: you're on the waiting list. Once you've gained respect from your fellow members, you'll be promoted.
29-09-2003, 01:54
What? That Sucks!
I hate you Ell & Omz222
New Genoa
29-09-2003, 01:54
Iuthia: Would you be interested in the Vice President seat?
Ruschi
29-09-2003, 01:55
While it did seriously consider joining, the Ruschic government has decided against becoming a part of the NAIA. Reasons include region factor and LoA. Thanks anyway.
Unum Veritas
29-09-2003, 01:55
As a result of that then Unum Veritas will join, once we know the exact commitments necessary in joining.
Omz222
29-09-2003, 01:55
LoA: you're on the waiting list. Once you've gained respect from your fellow members, you'll be promoted.
OOC: I can tell you how his nuking for provoked:

1. Lands of Ages hires Invasion Squad to invade me.
2. Xerlox/Free Rumania and co. against invading me, invades Matich
3. Lands of Ages fires missiles at Free Rumanian nuclear facility, spreads radiation across FR.
4. Nuking starts.

IC:

We will join, after we have a vote in People's Parliament.

-- Foreign Affairs Ministry
imported_Ell
29-09-2003, 01:55
What? That Sucks!
I hate you Ell & Omz222

Nothing against you, but you Capitalise Every First Letter Like This All The Time.
Omz222
29-09-2003, 01:56
What? That Sucks!
I hate you Ell & Omz222

Nothing against you, but you Capitalise Every First Letter Like This All The Time.
OOC: Agreed.
29-09-2003, 01:56
Oh, come on! Just let him slide. I mean he was carpetnuked also... which is why he got accepted: out of freakin' sympathy.

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The Free Republic of New Genoa
OOC: He hired geforce4 and his invasion squad to invade me.
He did, as an invasion squad member I was in on this, i modified it to destruction of LOA
29-09-2003, 01:56
Well I stopped sorta! Come on Ell! :P
29-09-2003, 01:57
Then I cancelled it! :?
Omz222
29-09-2003, 01:57
Oh, come on! Just let him slide. I mean he was carpetnuked also... which is why he got accepted: out of freakin' sympathy.

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The Free Republic of New Genoa
OOC: He hired geforce4 and his invasion squad to invade me.
He did, as an invasion squad member I was in on this, i modified it to destruction of LOA
OOC: Thanks, IH.
Iuthia
29-09-2003, 01:57
Iuthia: Would you be interested in the Vice President seat?

How can I say no... hell, it means some idiot may even try and take a pop at my nation once in a while... which is never really a good idea. I've got enough large friendly nations geographically next to me to stomp out invasions. The Urbanites are very protective of their own and they are mostly old nations (UN to prove they are not puppets).

*ahem*

But yes, I will be willing to take the seat until either someone better suited for the job comes along or I do something stupid.
Omz222
29-09-2003, 01:57
Then I cancelled it! :?
OOC: You cancelled it because I put pressure on you.
Unum Veritas
29-09-2003, 01:58
As a result of LoA being put on a waiting list, then Unum Veritas will join, once we know the exact commitments necessary in joining.
Omz222
29-09-2003, 02:00
The vote result in the parliament turned to a 60%-40%.

That means we will join.
Ruschi
29-09-2003, 02:01
OOC: Eh. What Unuum said. If the organization doesn't require a region (if that's what is meant by "forum,"), and if this deal with LoA ends on a positive note... I'll reconsider joining. I'd appreciate the alliance with Omz and others -- They seem like nice and intelligent people.
Iuthia
29-09-2003, 02:01
OOC: I can't fight Xerlox, becuase I ignored him. I won't roleplay with someone who fires hundreds of nukes without even talking to them first...

Now they won't even get resources...
New Genoa
29-09-2003, 02:03
New Genoa points out that region changing is unnecessary.
Omz222
29-09-2003, 02:03
OOC: I can't fight Xerlox, becuase I ignored him. I won't roleplay with someone who fires hundreds of nukes without even talking to them first...

Now they won't even get resources...
OOC: Following I can't fight:

---Entire Invasion Squad:

Reason: Ignored because of concept, leader's concept of "I can invade because I want to."
29-09-2003, 02:03
Personaly I dont care that this allience stands, the IF will always be, jsut like the dominion will always stand even if it is dead
Unum Veritas
29-09-2003, 02:03
New Genoa, once we know exactly how much of our military we are commiting to this then we will make a final decision.
29-09-2003, 02:04
New Genoa want me to make a forum for the alliance?
Omz222
29-09-2003, 02:04
Personaly I dont care that this allience stands, the IF will always be, jsut like the dominion will always stand even if it is dead
OOC: I have nothing against you or most of the members in the Invasion Squad. I am just not too fond of the concept of the Invasion Squad, plus the RP concept of Geforce4. A bit of personal peroblems also involved.
Omz222
29-09-2003, 02:05
New Genoa want me to make a forum for the alliance?
OOC: I can make one in invisionboard, or I can even make a phpBB one
29-09-2003, 02:07
I recomend invision free, PHPBB has a lot more features, yet alot more bugs (I am admin at 5 forums)
New Genoa
29-09-2003, 02:07
No, I'll make a forum. I can make very good ones. Ask my fellow APTO friends.

And there are no necessary requirements to devote forces. You use your own militaries and deploy as much as you want to when requested.

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The Free Republic of New Genoa
Unum Veritas
29-09-2003, 02:08
No, I'll make a forum. I can make very good ones. Ask my fellow APTO friends.

And there are no necessary requirements to devote forces. You use your own militaries and deploy as much as you want to when requested.

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The Free Republic of New Genoa

Well then Unum Veritas will join.
29-09-2003, 02:08
Tilsitsin wishes to formally request entry into this purely defensive alliance. We see ourselves as a nation promoting international peace, stability and defense, and have been at the head of several humanitarian efforts throughout the world aimed at maintaining peace in war-torn nations. We are also anti-slavery and anti-imperialist doctrinally, and are currently entrenched in a national policy of non-intervention except in the event of the country, ally or client-state being threatened with homeland invasion.

The Tilsitsinian people thank you for your consideration of our application.

Tilsitsin Foreign Office Representative to the Alliance,
The Honorable James van Nuyes II
Omz222
29-09-2003, 02:08
No, I'll make a forum. I can make very good ones. Ask my fellow APTO friends.OOC: Good :)
New Genoa
29-09-2003, 02:09
President Carter would like to be assured that Tilsitsin would cease any more hostilities it has against our ally, Pantera, before we admit your nation. This means no WMD tossing either.

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The Free Republic of New Genoa
29-09-2003, 02:11
President Carter would like to be assured that Tilsitsin would cease any more hostilities it has against our ally, Pantera, before we admit your nation. This means no WMD tossing either.

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The Free Republic of New Genoa

You have our assurances, as a formal and genuine peace has been astablished with Pantera. We regret that any WMDs were used in that conflict, but fortunately the elements that promoted this action within our government have since been expelled from military and civil service.
Unum Veritas
29-09-2003, 02:11
Unum Veritas is strictly a naval nation, with its only land forces being expeditionary units (i.e. Marines), however we are very very effective with blockades and naval battles. The blockades will probably come in more handy than anything else, though. Are we admitted?
29-09-2003, 02:12
Your puny organization will be crush. Your whole 5 members don't know how much shit they are getting themselves into. Do you seriously think you can take on 32 members, 19 of which are over a billion, most are ranging from 600million - 2billion.
Ruschi
29-09-2003, 02:12
Despite the hesitance it obviously has, still centering mainly on LoA for obvious reasons, the Principality of Ruschi cordially requests that it is allowed membership in the NAIA. Note that at the moment, the Ruschic do not have that impressive of a military, as the government is mainly concentrating on its air force. Air supremacy, the Ruschic leader believes, is a necessary key to battle, and the government is currently concentrating on that before any other forces are built up.

OOC: On a side note, I'm honored to be in an alliance with Omz, Iuthia, and etcetera. From what I've seen so far in the time I've been here, a few of you are the brightest folk I've seen. (Hind-kisser mode off...)
New Genoa
29-09-2003, 02:12
Tilsitsin has been accepted.
29-09-2003, 02:14
BTW, we had nothing to do with the LoA attacks. Some of our members took part but it was not an organizations attack.
THE KANGAROO
29-09-2003, 02:16
We would be interested in joining, but please dont tell our region,s leader as he can be nasty and invade anytime. He is not in the region at the moment so we can talk freely

President bouncy bounce
The Kangaroo
29-09-2003, 02:16
And its THE INVASION FORCE NOT SQUAD. If you're going to be against us, atleast get it right! Dammit.

If you are against imperialism, you are going to have a shit load dropped on you when we get our allies (Attackers Assembly, The Hostile Region, Hostile Region, Taco Legion of Doom, many many more) on you asses. I would suggest you step down.
New Genoa
29-09-2003, 02:18
The alliance is the NAIA.

And Kangaroo... what is your roleplay ability?
Penguenia
29-09-2003, 02:18
I thought it was an anti invasion force, not perticularly against GF's orginazation. Please clairify someone.
Ruschi
29-09-2003, 02:18
Why do I have the feeling that the second I say "hurr okay here we go into battle against puny Invasion Force," I'm making a big mistake?
Unum Veritas
29-09-2003, 02:19
GeForce4, this isn't just against you, its against rude imperialistic countries. I.E. those who invade for no other reason than they feel like it.

And New Genoa, am I accepted or not?
New Genoa
29-09-2003, 02:20
Well, the name was mostly parody... but oh well. As it stands, New Genoa is tired of imperialism.

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The Free Republic of New Genoa
29-09-2003, 02:20
Tilsitsin wishes to also place the products of the LGR Defense Corporation, and the R&D capabilities of the Tilsitsinian North Shore Technological Consortium, at the disposal of the alliance and it's members..
Unum Veritas
29-09-2003, 02:20
And New Genoa, am I accepted or not?

OKay, last time I ask before leaving this thread....
New Genoa
29-09-2003, 02:20
UV, you've been accepted.
Ruschi
29-09-2003, 02:21
Same as Unum. Am I accepted or not?
Unum Veritas
29-09-2003, 02:21
Alright, we wish to place the ship/plane building facilities of the Unum Veritas Naval Corporation at this alliances disposal. Members will get a 5% discount.
29-09-2003, 02:22
GeForce4, this isn't just against you, its against rude imperialistic countries. I.E. those who invade for no other reason than they feel like it.

And New Genoa, am I accepted or not?
Then why is the title "Anti Invasion Squad to be formed"? My alliance will easily crush you. We have had people join out of fear. Our first day, people were begging for mercy. We shall spare none on your puny souls. You can call the organization what you want but the truth will be revealed, it is just aginast us.
Unum Veritas
29-09-2003, 02:23
GeForce4, this isn't just against you, its against rude imperialistic countries. I.E. those who invade for no other reason than they feel like it.

And New Genoa, am I accepted or not?
Then why is the title "Anti Invasion Squad to be formed"? My alliance will easily crush you. We have had people join out of fear. Our first day, people were begging for mercy. We shall spare none on your puny souls. You can call the organization what you want but the truth will be revealed, it is just aginast us.

Someone has an ego problem. Not every alliance is just against yours. Relax....
Ruschi
29-09-2003, 02:23
That "BIG MISTAKE" feeling is still ringing like a bell...
Omz222
29-09-2003, 02:23
GeForce4, this isn't just against you, its against rude imperialistic countries. I.E. those who invade for no other reason than they feel like it.

And New Genoa, am I accepted or not?
Then why is the title "Anti Invasion Squad to be formed"? My alliance will easily crush you. We have had people join out of fear. Our first day, people were begging for mercy. We shall spare none on your puny souls. You can call the organization what you want but the truth will be revealed, it is just aginast us.
OOC: Go ahead with your 1500 M60 Pattons :lol:

Oh yeah, I ignore you.
New Genoa
29-09-2003, 02:23
Ok for the last freakin' time:

The
Name
Is
A
Freaking
Parody!

We have not singled you out! This is against all imperialist nations. And the alliance doesn't make preemptive strikes either!

Jeez.

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The Free Republic of New Genoa
Unum Veritas
29-09-2003, 02:24
Well there would be no point in them attacking the nations in this alliance because we can elect what forces to commit based on a case by case basis. So some of us might choose not to mess with any of the members of this "Invasion Squad".
New Genoa
29-09-2003, 02:25
Exactly!
Ruschi
29-09-2003, 02:25
Ahem.

Same as Unum. Am I accepted or not?
New Genoa
29-09-2003, 02:26
Yes.
Unum Veritas
29-09-2003, 02:30
Alright, we wish to place the ship/plane building facilities of the Unum Veritas Naval Corporation at this alliances disposal. Members will get a 5% discount.

You might want to add the benefits of joining to the first post.
29-09-2003, 02:32
Likewise, Tilsitsin will offer a discount of all LGR products (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=73639&highlight=) to the amount of 10% or all alliance members..
29-09-2003, 02:33
Question, if you attack invaders, arnt you just as bad?
Penguenia
29-09-2003, 02:34
Question, if you attack invaders, arnt you just as bad?

I think this is here to counterattack, not make the first move.
Omz222
29-09-2003, 02:34
Question, if you attack invaders, arnt you just as bad?
OOC: I think this is just against imperalism morally, and this organization may help out when a small nation is attacked for imperalistic reasons, etc.
Ruschi
29-09-2003, 02:35
What do you suggest we do? Slap on a bunch of tie-dye shirts and wave peace signs all around, saying, "you guys shouldn't do that, it's not right"?
Iuthia
29-09-2003, 02:35
My alliance will easily crush you. We have had people join out of fear. Our first day, people were begging for mercy. We shall spare none on your puny souls. You can call the organization what you want but the truth will be revealed, it is just aginast us.

Sigh... doesn't it occur to you that some of the members of this allience have allies of their own? I reckon I could pull up some extra defence if I needed it. Plus I am surrounded by large nations willing to defend me in my region (geographically next to me, not puppet cuase they are in the UN)

Then you would have to get all of your thirty something nations to attack, which is not easy to do. I will not accept you posting their attacks unless they personally IM me or post once to say so (in the thread in question).

I know that getting thirty nations to mobilise at once is pretty hard. Then you have to move your men to us. Land wars are not easy in this day and age becuase you will have to be at least equal to their military. Try RPing the mobilisation of 10 million troops from one nation and it will be ignored.

If you crush me IC, fair does to you, but otherwise I don't think you will be able to do it, it takes alot of resources and you can't keep going on the offencive without your economy bombing every so often.

But otherwise, I'm not going to take this threat seriously...

Have a nice day.

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Lord General deGritz, leader of Iuthia
More information about Iuthia.... (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=41124&highlight=)
Iuthian Defence Treaty (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1484531#1484531)
Urbanites Region (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=display_region/region=Urbanites)
New Genoa
29-09-2003, 02:38
Question, if you attack invaders, arnt you just as bad?
OOC: I think this is just against imperalism morally, and this organization may help out when a small nation is attacked for imperalistic reasons, etc.Not just small nations though. But large nations probably wouldn't need our assistance anyway. Also, we'll defend any RL that get attacked for imperialist reasons, though those RPs are never good anyway...

http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/norfolk_island--54.jpg
The Free Republic of New Genoa
East Islandia
29-09-2003, 02:41
East Islandia is interested, being the victim of imperialists before. In events of war, we will send rapid reaction units and weaponry.
New Genoa
29-09-2003, 02:41
You've been accepted.
29-09-2003, 02:46
Sorry new genoa, we have declared war on you because we feel you are a threat. Wheather it be against all imperials or just us, you are an emeny to our ways.

OOC: Omz you didnt get the joke about the Patons? Wow you're slow.
29-09-2003, 02:54
"I do not consider this organization a threat to the Holy Empire. We have been Imperialists for centuries. A word of advice, do not get in our way."

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http://www.freewebs.com/neo-wu/caocao.JPG
Thy Holy Emperor Mengde, Blessed Be His Name
"Innocence Proves Nothing"
29-09-2003, 02:54
Tilsitsinian legislators of the national assembly have passed a bill through and presented it to the president for signing. Called the Anti-Imperialism Defense Alliance Force Commitment Act (or simply the Force Defense Act, as some are already calling it), the bill contains the following provisions:

1) Tilsitsin will, for all intents and purposes, consider the alliance and it's member nations as an integral ally of the country, which permits the president and legislators of Tilsitsin to lawfully commit it's military forces to the aid of the alliance in a time of conflict.

2) Any nation of the alliance deemed in need of the equipment and/or technology required to sufficiently defend itsself or further it's abilities to provide for the defense of the alliance on the whole, shall be granted equipment and/or technology under loosely negotiable terms, that may possibly include grants that do not require repayment.

3) Tilsitsin will grant any nation of the alliance that wishes the right to interface with our national missile defense system. While Tilsitsin will not be providing anti-missile weapons directly, it will provide joint sensor, early warning and intelligence information that concerns national missile defense.

This act has been signed into law by the president, and has become effective immediately.
New Genoa
29-09-2003, 11:09
Bump!
imported_Ell
29-09-2003, 11:58
OOC: Am I in?
IC:

Ell resubmits it's application, this time to the head office in New Genoa.
New Genoa
29-09-2003, 19:28
Ell is in! I'm getting to making a forum... just be patient. :P
Independent Hitmen
29-09-2003, 21:06
just asking for geforce and the invasion squad to destroy u lol.
New Genoa
29-09-2003, 21:16
Get. Out. Now. Please. Thank. You.

http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/norfolk_island--54.jpg
The Free Republic of New Genoa
Arribastan
29-09-2003, 21:19
is it okay if we torture people?
29-09-2003, 21:22
New Genoa, I must suggest a name change consideration. By saying Anit-Invasion, It would suggest that you are a hippy that doesn't support war for any reason.
McLeod03
29-09-2003, 21:23
New Genoa, i wouldn't exactly say my RP skills were great, but i would happily join this alliance.
Ruschi
29-09-2003, 21:23
It's "Nations Against Imperialism Association," you brainless doof.
29-09-2003, 21:27
It's "Nations Against Imperialism Association," you brainless doof.Thats the spirit. Start to flame and insult. You my friend are being ignored by Geforce4 in its entierty,
Ruschi
29-09-2003, 21:29
Good, thank you.
Arribastan
29-09-2003, 21:30
is it okay if we torture people?
answer me
29-09-2003, 21:30
Good, thank you.

Always a pleasure to ignore the scum of nationstates. :wink:
Arribastan
29-09-2003, 21:43
is it okay if we torture people?
answer me
please :(
New Genoa
29-09-2003, 22:21
Depends. The NAIA wouldn't get involved, but I may decide to liberate the tortured.
Iuthia
29-09-2003, 22:22
It's "Nations Against Imperialism Association," you brainless doof.Thats the spirit. Start to flame and insult. You my friend are being ignored by Geforce4 in its entierty,

Fair enough, just don't flame yourself... or we could justify ignoring you nation.
Arribastan
29-09-2003, 22:23
okay. can i join then :P
New Genoa
29-09-2003, 22:25
Sorry. No. We'd like to keep the alliance to be composed of "good guys." Otherwise known as people who don't torture their own.

http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/norfolk_island--54.jpg
The Free Republic of New Genoa
Arribastan
29-09-2003, 22:27
Sorry. No. We'd like to keep the alliance to be composed of "good guys." Otherwise known as people who don't torture their own.

http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/norfolk_island--54.jpg
The Free Republic of New Genoa
i don't torture my own. i torture spies.
Iuthia
29-09-2003, 22:35
Sorry. No. We'd like to keep the alliance to be composed of "good guys." Otherwise known as people who don't torture their own.

http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/norfolk_island--54.jpg
The Free Republic of New Genoa

Personnally I wouldn't use the phrase "good guys"... next thing you know we will be "liberating" nations.

My job is to assist in the defence of nations under attack for reasons like expansion, assimilitation, genocide and money.

We will not invade nations who are self professed imperalists becuase that is not how we do things, we discourage invasion by backing up oppressed nations.

However, I will reserve my own right as a independant nation to declare war on the wanton use of WMD.
Iuthia
29-09-2003, 22:37
i don't torture my own. i torture spies.

Depends if what kind of torture it is (playing loud music can be concidered torture).

If we are talking about thumb screws and racks, then I don't care why you do it. I would condem it.
New Genoa
29-09-2003, 22:38
Fine. But I've already stated: "no preemptive attacks."
New Empire
29-09-2003, 22:51
We'll gladly join this force. We'd also like to apply for Head of R&D.
--
USNE Treaty and Alliance Office
imported_Grunge-France
29-09-2003, 22:54
-doublepost-
Sambizie
29-09-2003, 22:55
Well if I may be permitted to join, I will. However, I may only beable to "help" when the Sambizie Forces are near Earth.

Respectfully,
Mwto'ar Uganda
http://nift.firedrake.org/genre/graphics/f_Hammerhead.gif
-APTO-Foreign Diplomat
-UTP-Member
-TFA-Diplomat
-LFW-Galatic Fleet Commander
-GZNRII-Defence Minister
-Aero-Tech-Founder/CEO
Population: 723,000,000
Civil Rights: Some
Economy: Powerhouse
Political Freedoms: Rare
GDP per Capita: $25,000
GDP: $18,075,000,000,000
National Budget: $5,560,448,400,000
===NATIONAL ALERT LEVEL===
* Peacetime Duties
* Deployment
* State of War
imported_Grunge-France
29-09-2003, 22:55
We would like to submit our application to join this alliance: From Drum Gods to The Imperium, ´The Republic has always fought against imperialism.

We would also like to apply for head of R&D
Are we admitted, New Genoa?
New Genoa
29-09-2003, 23:00
Ahh, competition for R&D. Perhaps, we shall vote on this issue? Or would you rather work together? For I know New Empire is an excellent weapons designer (ex. - KAF-90E & KAI-40B were both co-developed by NE and me), however we trust the Grunge-French in naval designs. What do you say?

Sambizie, New Empire, and Grunge-France have, nevertheless, been accepted.

http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/norfolk_island--54.jpg
The Free Republic of New Genoa
Sambizie
29-09-2003, 23:17
OOC: NG do you have anything you would like to input on the Alliance thread? The meeting is underway, Question and Answer time :lol:
M. Uganda

IC:Thank you, we look foward to working with these nations.
Omz222
29-09-2003, 23:17
OOC: About Geforce4's (godmoded, IMO) invasion, here's a tip to defeat them easily:

Numbers may be big, content may lack.

I think you should get what I mean by now.
Iuthia
29-09-2003, 23:18
Fine. But I've already stated: "no preemptive attacks."

The idea is that they used WMD in the first place, in which case I would automatically react if the reasons include:

"He insulted my donkey" (or self or significant other)

"I'm bored"

"You are no threat to me, so I'll shower you with nukes"

"I liek n00kz"

"This is a show of power... when all 3000 nukes hit you, you will know we are powerful"

Basically... I'm tired of carpet nuking.
Omz222
29-09-2003, 23:20
Agreed, nukes has got out of hand.
Haverton
29-09-2003, 23:21
This won't stop me from invading Madagascar for new land. Imagine owning a small archipelago in the Indian Ocean, along with other islands in the Indian, which are not suited for living or farming. Therefore, we must import nearly all our food. We have tried programs trying to get people to grow their own fruits and vegetables, but this is not working. We must have new land to populate and cultivate. I hope you can see the justification, as I am preparing for war.
imported_Grunge-France
29-09-2003, 23:28
W think we have to allow smaller nations to make themselves a career in this overcrowded international comunity, we gladly give the possition of R&D to New Empire, as a show of friendship :)

http://images.google.com.mx/images?q=tbn:iGKJ3TpdlwAC:www.frey.netax.pl/carol/gf/richard.jpg

Monsieur R. Karinsky, Spokesman of Monsieur President.
New Genoa
30-09-2003, 00:06
Cool.

Samb - I'll get to it, bud.

http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/norfolk_island--54.jpg
The Free Republic of New Genoa
New Empire
30-09-2003, 00:06
We thank Grunge-France for this generous gesture, and accept this friendship.
--
What expectations and guidelines do you have for Head of R&D (Give me a job description.)
Diminix
30-09-2003, 00:08
GeForce is no longer alive.. :?
New Genoa
30-09-2003, 00:09
Job Description:

Develop weapons or any other technologies, both military and civilian. Grant alliance members production rights. Uhh... that's it. :D Research and Development.

http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/norfolk_island--54.jpg
The Free Republic of New Genoa
New Empire
30-09-2003, 00:12
Oh, good. Not too hard for me.
(I'll have Hermes Coils out by Thursday. TG if you have any questions on them.)
New Genoa
30-09-2003, 01:04
Excellente!

El Bumpo, Amigos!

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The Free Republic of New Genoa
New Genoa
30-09-2003, 01:35
http://s2.invisionfree.com/NAIA_Forum/index.php?
New Genoa
30-09-2003, 01:35
http://s2.invisionfree.com/NAIA_Forum/index.php?
Omz222
30-09-2003, 01:40
http://s2.invisionfree.com/NAIA_Forum/index.php?
OOC: You may want to check the users signed up but hasn' bveen validated ;)
New Genoa
30-09-2003, 02:18
I'm getting there. Homework, APTO forums, and other stuff are kinda distracting. :P
30-09-2003, 02:27
The peaceloving people of the Dominion of New Canuckland is certainly interested in your proposed alliance, but requires further clarification in terms of resources required, etc.
New Genoa
30-09-2003, 02:29
Your devotion and support of the alliance. You are not obligated to deploy forces or ship resources to NAIA nations, though it is HIGHLY recommended.

http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/norfolk_island--54.jpg
The Free Republic of New Genoa
Iuthia
30-09-2003, 14:34
It turns out that I don't have permission for the boards.
The Macabees
30-09-2003, 14:40
Like you said to me... you guys will probably end up never coexisting and your alliance will fall to naught. You may have "members" but Omz222 is 100% inactive in the NJA and other members aren't reliable either.

BUT, dont let me critisize you, the Invasion Force can't RP anyways :P .
30-09-2003, 14:46
The United Socialist States Of Altaran would like to express its interest in this proposed alliance.

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The United Socialist States Of Altaran
http://www.ozgurluk.org/pic/communism.jpg
FOR THE PEOPLE!
Member of CACE
Omz222
30-09-2003, 15:34
Like you said to me... you guys will probably end up never coexisting and your alliance will fall to naught.

We shall see.

But in the meanwhile, imperalists will always fall earlier.

You may have "members" but Omz222 is 100% inactive in the NJA and other members aren't reliable either.

We (I, if you are speaking OOCly) active in other alliances, such as NATO, SATO, etc.

OOC:


BUT, dont let me critisize you, the Invasion Force can't RP anyways :P .

I'd say it is true...
Iuthia
30-09-2003, 15:34
Like you said to me... you guys will probably end up never coexisting and your alliance will fall to naught. You may have "members" but Omz222 is 100% inactive in the NJA and other members aren't reliable either.

BUT, dont let me critisize you, the Invasion Force can't RP anyways :P .

Alliences have trouble getting all their members to do something, I've seen it before. But this way we have a link to one another and can call for help and get something.

I don't mind fighting nations providing they don't shout silly numbers then stick to those numbers.
Omz222
30-09-2003, 15:36
I don't mind fighting nations providing they don't shout silly numbers then stick to those numbers.
OOC: Agreed.

Numberwanking: A normal sight of RPers in these warmongering alliances.
Free Outer Eugenia
30-09-2003, 15:50
The Federation of Free Outer Eugenia is interested in such an alliance.
Iuthia
30-09-2003, 16:08
I don't mind fighting nations providing they don't shout silly numbers then stick to those numbers.
OOC: Agreed.

Numberwanking: A normal sight of RPers in these warmongering alliances.

I used to claim 5% population in my nation becuase of the factors like compusory military service and massive funding. Then I saw the figures of how bad it really was. Even now with 1% population being my official figure, I have alot of spare people for navy and tanks... too many. 5% works for small nations, not big ones.

Eitherway.. I don't get caught up on it now... if I want to help someone I'll send 300'000 people over a long IC time and think of it as a large force. I used to send 1.4 million and think it was a small force.

Numbers can be a problem, but I ask people questions and listen to people who know and change figures. Which is why I got a little annoyed with the amount of flaming Geforce4 got. It was a little much, but why don't we give constuctive criticism.
Independent Hitmen
30-09-2003, 18:08
Get. Out. Now. Please. Thank. You.

http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/norfolk_island--54.jpg
The Free Republic of New Genoa
I will keep coming back like a dodgy kebab.
30-09-2003, 18:10
imperialism works you fool!
30-09-2003, 18:24
OOC: Imperialism? That's going to war with gaining more land as a purpose, right? Any chances a n00b could join?

IC: The Nomadic Peoples (soon to be Republic) of Amphib Guinea wishes to join your collaboration against imperialism. Amphib Guinea's small size and weak militant force would make it a prime target for imperialism, and we wish to find means of stopping this threat. An alliance is our best bet. We have no good military forces to contribute, but we will give the founder, New Genoa, 200000 dollars for anti-imperialistic purposes.
Iuthia
30-09-2003, 18:44
IC: The Nomadic Peoples (soon to be Republic) of Amphib Guinea wishes to join your collaboration against imperialism.

I'm sure there should be no problem, though I'll leave it to NG.

Failing that, you can at least join this... Iuthian Defence Treaty (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1484531#1484531).

http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/iuthia.jpg

Lord General deGritz, leader of Iuthia
More information about Iuthia.... (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=41124&highlight=)
Urbanites Region (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=display_region/region=Urbanites)
Iuthia
30-09-2003, 18:48
imperialism works you fool!

You really miss the point. Unless you want to join the allience or say something productive, go away.
New Genoa
30-09-2003, 19:35
Ok, first:

Who's Omzthespy? Really dumb name, bozo.

Second, can you access the boards now? You SHOULD have permission.
New Empire
30-09-2003, 19:56
Nope, still can't access. I haven't even been validated.
Iuthia
30-09-2003, 20:00
"You do not have permission to view this board"

:oops:

It don't like me.
New Genoa
30-09-2003, 20:08
:evil:

Damn board. I'll see what I can do.
New Genoa
30-09-2003, 20:10
Fixed. Sloppy work by me when I created a new member group. I forgot to check "Can view board."

:lol:

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The Free Republic of New Genoa
Ruschi
30-09-2003, 20:12
Heh. Whoops.
30-09-2003, 20:16
I control Moldova, a small part of the Ukraine and a small section of northern Bulgaria around Varta, is that what you would call "Imperialist"?
New Genoa
30-09-2003, 20:19
If you already have it (before the alliance was organized)... then no. If you say, decided to invade a nation today, then it would be.

So, this only applies to imperialist moves or actions from now on, not ones from last week or last month, etc.

http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/norfolk_island--54.jpg
The Free Republic of New Genoa
New Empire
30-09-2003, 20:49
Check the forums for the R&D thread
New Genoa
30-09-2003, 22:50
^
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^
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Bump.
imported_Ell
30-09-2003, 23:06
Just to let you know, I've signed up on the forums as "Ell", so it really is me signing it up (not an impostor).
Penguenia
30-09-2003, 23:08
We have forums? Why wasn't I notified?
imported_Ell
30-09-2003, 23:10
We have forums? Why wasn't I notified?

It's on the first page, and only just started.
Penguenia
30-09-2003, 23:12
Well TM it to me then
Iuthia
30-09-2003, 23:13
NICA Forums (http://s2.invisionfree.com/NAIA_Forum/index.php?)
Omz222
30-09-2003, 23:18
Who's Omzthespy? Really dumb name, bozo.

OOC: Probably someone from the Invasion Force or Lands of Ages launching a revenge at me :roll:

Anyways, not a problem, just deat it
Mad hatters
01-10-2003, 00:14
I'd like to join...
Iuthia
01-10-2003, 00:19
How about ever person to be validated sends New Genoa a telegram with their e-mail address... that way we can be a little more stringient with our checks.
01-10-2003, 00:24
*Tagged, - wants to join, and will bring along a few friends*
Agrigento
01-10-2003, 00:25
*Tagged, - wants to join, and will bring along a few friends*

<--- One of those friends...
New Genoa
01-10-2003, 00:27
How about ever person to be validated sends New Genoa a telegram with their e-mail address... that way we can be a little more stringient with our checks.Yeah, I was thinking about something like that.

--

Skapunkdotnet and Agrigento will be accepted although I'm worried about Agrigento being an NCA member (it's the NCA Legion that worries me)...
Lunatic Retard Robots
01-10-2003, 00:30
We give you our wholehearted support, and as a tolken of our appreciation, four Klingon Birds-of-Prey will be dispatched to you so you can fight imperialism in space. LRR will provide training and maintanance.
Agrigento
01-10-2003, 00:34
Skapunkdotnet and Agrigento will be accepted although I'm worried about Agrigento being an NCA member (it's the NCA Legion that worries me)...

Eh, It shouldn't worry you that much. I don't really invade other countries at all, unless they really deserve it :wink: . Right now me and a lot of other friends are fighting imperialism in China (albeit through a puppet)

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=70851

Oh, and speaking for Skapunkdotnet, he has a pretty crazy space fleet, and is one of the smartest people I know.
01-10-2003, 00:36
West Warwick will join! We will provide our large force of light armored vehicles, missile boats, attack helicopters, and various light attack aircraft to your cause.
East Islandia
01-10-2003, 00:40
We want to join now, officially.
Long live the resistance to the imperialist agents and their running dog lackeys.

We will contribute any sort of military action necessary.
New Genoa
01-10-2003, 00:40
Well, you're both in.

Agrigento: you're an ally of Imitora, right?
Agrigento
01-10-2003, 00:42
Well, you're both in.

Agrigento: you're an ally of Imitora, right?

Yes, most definately.
New Genoa
01-10-2003, 00:44
Thought so. :P
East Islandia
01-10-2003, 00:46
so how does this work again?

we fight off invasions? and who says where or not it is justified?
New Genoa
01-10-2003, 00:55
We fight off invasions that are only committed for pure imperialistic reasons.

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The Free Republic of New Genoa
New Empire
01-10-2003, 00:56
IE-
"I am invading you for land"
"... for your natural resources."
"... for power."
Etc.
Drakonian Imperium
01-10-2003, 01:45
While the Drakonian Imperium comdemns such acts as Genocide, Slavery, and the restricts of human rights and freedoms, it does not support unprovoked agression against Imperialist nations, like the Imperium itself. The Senate however has voted, and gained the Praetor's support, on putting forward a Non-Agression Pact to NAIA. The Pact would also included increased trade right, closing diplomatic relations, and all of the United Emirates alliance. We await, your response.

Drakonian Diplomatic Corps.
located in Drako Throne,
capital of the Dominion of Drakonian Imperium
New Genoa
01-10-2003, 02:21
"Before we settle any non-agression pacts, perhaps you should've read our proposal more thoroughly, Praetor. We have clearly stated that will NOT preemptively attack any imperialist nation. We WILL intervene if an imperialist nation decides to invade another nation for purposes of annexation, or any other phony excuses made to cover up their imperialistic goals. That is all." - President Carter

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The Free Republic of New Genoa
East Islandia
01-10-2003, 16:54
then i have a perfect task to test out our new anti imperialist alliance.The imperialist thread Agrigento mentioned; let us rally in support of China, as it is being invaded by Mallberta, an nation of domineering dogs.

thread is below:
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=70851
01-10-2003, 17:10
[OOC:hmmm...fighting imperialism?yay!]
IC:
We would seek membership of the NAIA, upon condition that the Soviets accept the required defence implication. As the next Annual Communal Soviets will be called up before the month's out, this confirmation should be rapid.
Comrade Fouad Saluki, Praesident of Foreign Affairs.
01-10-2003, 18:01
Actually, forget it.
01-10-2003, 18:04
OOC: Imperialism? That's going to war with gaining more land as a purpose, right? Any chances a n00b could join?

IC: The Nomadic Peoples (soon to be Republic) of Amphib Guinea wishes to join your collaboration against imperialism. Amphib Guinea's small size and weak militant force would make it a prime target for imperialism, and we wish to find means of stopping this threat. An alliance is our best bet. We have no good military forces to contribute, but we will give the founder, New Genoa, 200000 dollars for anti-imperialistic purposes.

I'm still waiting for approval...
Iuthia
01-10-2003, 18:08
I'm still waiting for approval...

You have been approved, just check the first post listing the members.
01-10-2003, 18:16
I'm still waiting for approval...

You have been approved, just check the first post listing the members.

Oops, sorry, I didn't notice that. I'll go check out the official forums now...
East Islandia
01-10-2003, 18:16
i say we fight Mallberta since they are in a war of imperialism.
Any thoughts?
Iuthia
01-10-2003, 18:51
Personnally Iuthia has alot of troops pledged around the world. The "Rodger Young" is still in orbit above another nation and it costs alot to mobilise another protection force.

I want to make sure and action taken against New Genoa fails first. But I will only move them into protective positions with his permission.
New Genoa
01-10-2003, 19:26
Cird is in.
Drakonian Imperium
01-10-2003, 20:33
"Before we settle any non-agression pacts, perhaps you should've read our proposal more thoroughly, Praetor. We have clearly stated that will NOT preemptively attack any imperialist nation. We WILL intervene if an imperialist nation decides to invade another nation for purposes of annexation, or any other phony excuses made to cover up their imperialistic goals. That is all." - President Carter

http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/norfolk_island--54.jpg
The Free Republic of New Genoa

The information was covered and read, still we wanted our point made. We do not support anti-imperialism. Still in the interest of furthering Diplomatic Relations we put forth our offer. We, again, await your response.

While the Drakonian Imperium comdemns such acts as Genocide, Slavery, and the restricts of human rights and freedoms, it does not support unprovoked agression against Imperialist nations, like the Imperium itself. The Senate however has voted, and gained the Praetor's support, on putting forward a Non-Agression Pact to NAIA. The Pact would also included increased trade right, closing diplomatic relations, and all of the United Emirates alliance. We await, your response.

Drakonian Diplomatic Corps.
located in Drako Throne,
capital of the Dominion of Drakonian Imperium
East Islandia
02-10-2003, 01:21
WHO decides our conflicts?
And how do we organize our military forces?
02-10-2003, 01:23
fascinating.
Perhaps you could use another space tech nation aboard?
Iuthia
02-10-2003, 01:35
You use the same military as you normally would and after that it pretty much works as a allience between all member nations with the inclanation to defending nations under attack.

You don't have to get involved in every conflict we have I guess, but the general idea is that you get assistance from members when you are in trouble or you are fighting a anti-imperialist cause and you want help.

Ask new genoa for more detailed rules of NICA, but we are generally just a load of nations who like to fight for the little guy at times and we can do the same as normal, just no:

Imperialism - We are trying to reduce it, not add to it.

Slavery - It's not nice.

Genocide - Even worst.
Agrigento
02-10-2003, 02:16
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=70851&start=0

^ Major Imperialism, thats why I am fighting it with East Islandia and Skapunkdotnet.
02-10-2003, 02:17
AND ME
Agrigento
02-10-2003, 02:18
AND ME

Yeah, sorry about that. :oops:
New Genoa
02-10-2003, 03:19
Too late for me to get involved. Too much reading. :wink:

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The Free Republic of New Genoa
East Islandia
02-10-2003, 03:22
but never too late for the alliance!!
VIVA LA RESISTANCE!!
death to the dogs and their imperialist agents!
imported_Ell
02-10-2003, 05:02
and Taiwan (Ell's RL friend)
Penguenia
02-10-2003, 05:03
Is there anything going on? Penguenia hasn't had the time to watch this thread.
Sambizie
02-10-2003, 05:04
Is there anything going on? Penguenia hasn't had the time to watch this thread.

Nor have I, sorry. But I don't think anything is going on :lol:
New Genoa
02-10-2003, 19:39
Oh im shaking. :lol:
Independent Hitmen
02-10-2003, 19:40
Your still asking for the Invasion Squad to annex ur ass.
New Genoa
02-10-2003, 19:42
I ignore most of the IF for piss-poor roleplaying and no attempts to improve it....
Independent Hitmen
02-10-2003, 19:43
Im poor and im tryin to improve it, but i am only a boeing member.
02-10-2003, 19:43
I would like to bring an imperialist to your attention;

Russian Forces:
Although this harlot hides under the banner of "Socialist liberation" he is merely a closet Imperialist. He has recently taken over the Ukraine and is now threatening me with invasion. If you need more info, just ask.
East Islandia
02-10-2003, 21:46
someone enlighten me:
What is IF?
And wut do they have to do witht his? are they some kind of imperialist group ors oemthing?
Iuthia
02-10-2003, 22:31
I thinks it's time for me to do something as Vice-President, so without further ado I'm going to repeat what the President said, being as large part of my roll becuase people don't like to listen.

"We are not going to make any pre-emptive strikes, we are an allience that defends nations from Imperialism, but we don't actively go out and declare war on known imperialists"

However, as for Hitmen saying we are going to get annexed by the Invasion Force (IF) then I'll reply by saying the leader of the Invasion Force has already declared war again New Genoa in reply to our organisation, which is still currently growing.

So far the war hasn't gone anywhere for... four days now? I don't think forces have even arrived at New Genoa's heavily defended nation.

The big problem alot of people don't realise about large alliences is that they have a problem getting everyone involved. I'm surpised you didn't hear about Geforce4's war again New Genoa. Then again, I'm sorry to say that Geforce4 did get alot of flames from his "3 million men in a load of carriers" invasion force. But I think the flames were a bit harsh and damaged the thread (and New Genoa's plan a little).

Like I said, nothing has happened so I doubt it will even happen. But we don't fear the Invasion Force, who are quoted as saying they don't concider us a threat... yet seem to be acting like we are.
02-10-2003, 22:41
Gasp! Anti-Imperialists! Um, Overopinionation's Monarchy?! ugh... They were stripped of power in 1865... Um, yep, that's it... Our pro Imperialistic Views? Ugh... *runs*
Drakonian Imperium
02-10-2003, 22:48
The information was covered and read, still we wanted our point made. We do not support anti-imperialism. Still in the interest of furthering Diplomatic Relations we put forth our offer. We, again, await your response.

While the Drakonian Imperium comdemns such acts as Genocide, Slavery, and the restricts of human rights and freedoms, it does not support unprovoked agression against Imperialist nations, like the Imperium itself. The Senate however has voted, and gained the Praetor's support, on putting forward a Non-Agression Pact to NAIA. The Pact would also included increased trade right, closing diplomatic relations, and all of the United Emirates alliance. We await, your response.

Drakonian Diplomatic Corps.
located in Drako Throne,
capital of the Dominion of Drakonian Imperium

OOC: Think you missed my second post. I await, your formal response.
New Genoa
03-10-2003, 00:26
Fine.
Drakonian Imperium
03-10-2003, 00:52
Fine.

We are glad that you accept, while the Drakonian Imperium itself and the United Emirates do engage in policies that might be viewed as Imperialistic, the Imperium would like it known that the United Emirates opposes terrorism, tyrannical rule, slavery, genocide, racism, and the invasion of civil rights and freedoms. It feels that these make the Non-Agression Pact between the United Emirates and the NAIA more desirable. The Drakonian Diplomatic Corps. will immediately go to work on drafting the pact and submit a rough draft to New Genoa at the earliest possible time. We thank you for you agreement to this alliance, the Imperium and the United Emirates are pleased with the results.

Drakonian Diplomatic Corps.
located in Drako Throne,
capital of the Dominion of Drakonian Imperium
New Genoa
03-10-2003, 00:54
Imperialistic you may be, but don't go on annexing frenzies or we'll be forced to break the NAP.

-Foreign Affairs-

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The Free Republic of New Genoa
Drakonian Imperium
03-10-2003, 01:03
All Annexations by the Imperium, are well justified and bring democratic rule to dictatorial and corrupt nation, when the Imperium does annex area. The Imperium generally, does not annex territory, unless the local government is beyond all hope. The Imperium also does not engage in frenzies of annexation, so there is not likely to be a threat of war between the Imperium and it's allies in the United Emirates and the honorable members of the NAIA.

Drakonian Diplomatic Corps.
located in Drako Throne,
capital of the Dominion of Drakonian Imperium
New Genoa
03-10-2003, 01:06
We are pleased to hear this news.

-Foreign Affairs-

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The Free Republic of New Genoa
East Islandia
03-10-2003, 01:22
HOW ABOUT WE ALL PUT OUR ALLIANCE TO GOOD USE AND GO TO A WAR WITH AN IMPERIALISTIC NATION?
Iuthia
03-10-2003, 02:05
HOW ABOUT WE ALL PUT OUR ALLIANCE TO GOOD USE AND GO TO A WAR WITH AN IMPERIALISTIC NATION?

Do you know how many internet equitette rules you are breaking in that sentace?

Well... er... just one:

Don't write with capitol letters.


We are doing it this way becuase we are not out to start wars ourselves, but to assist those who need it. If you want to go on your own campaign that is fine, providing you don't:

Commit Genocide
Capture "Slaves"
Act Imperialistic
East Islandia
03-10-2003, 02:28
o.. sry..I never was a stickler for rules; they are often made to be broken, but i'll do my best to stay in line.
so HOW do we determine who needs it? u were a bit ambiguous when i asked that question (prob not due to any fault of urs) but i'm still unclear. So we DONT declare war on imperialistic nations. But we do fight imperialism. WIth wut? Tie dye t-shirts?

If some1 needs a bullet in their head to keep them from putting bullets in other ppl's heads, then pull the trigger and go home. If not, what are you doing here in a FORUM, not a COALITION.

i still dont get how it works. So we have to ASK for assisstance?
Penguenia
03-10-2003, 02:31
Waaaiiit a minute here... when I joined there wasn't anything that said I couldn't commit genocide or have slaves... my elf slave women like being slaves... does this mean I have to drop out?

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Immortal Emperor Tobias Raziel
Holy Empire of Penguenia
Penguenian Lady Guard (http://boards.gamers.com/messages/overview.asp?name=Penguenia)
03-10-2003, 02:35
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Roania
03-10-2003, 02:45
Let me see...

I am against slavery.

I am against genocide... when it's not commited by me.

I doubt I want to be a member.

Pengeinea, get your slavery loving emperor out of my country, or he'll be shot. This is your 15 second warning.
Penguenia
03-10-2003, 02:49
Don't worry he left last week.
Roania
03-10-2003, 02:51
Good. Now, please tell us where your nation is.
Penguenia
03-10-2003, 02:51
Earth
New Genoa
03-10-2003, 02:51
Waaaiiit a minute here... when I joined there wasn't anything that said I couldn't commit genocide or have slaves... my elf slave women like being slaves... does this mean I have to drop out?

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Immortal Emperor Tobias Raziel
Holy Empire of Penguenia
Penguenian Lady Guard (http://boards.gamers.com/messages/overview.asp?name=Penguenia)Actually, it was stated. Liberate your slaves and allow them to have a choice to work for whatever wage they wish at the job they want (or you assign them to.)
Penguenia
03-10-2003, 02:52
They get tips...
Roania
03-10-2003, 02:53
Earth

Where on Earth? I sense an accidental mislaunch about to happen unless you release all slaves immediately.
Penguenia
03-10-2003, 02:55
I only have 2 elvish slaves... and I'm the only one whos allowd to own slaves in my nation... they aren't treated poorly and live in the Palace. No mislaunches needed.
Agrigento
03-10-2003, 03:50
Slavery is a horrible practice demeaning the worth of human life, if they like it they arent really slaves, but then again I am sure they do not have many opportunities if that is the life they choose.
Bonstock
03-10-2003, 03:54
Sign me up. I need a new alliance.

-Bonstocknian High Command
imported_Ell
03-10-2003, 06:48
I would like to bring an imperialist to your attention;

Russian Forces:
Although this harlot hides under the banner of "Socialist liberation" he is merely a closet Imperialist. He has recently taken over the Ukraine and is now threatening me with invasion. If you need more info, just ask.

OOC: Nothing against him personally, but his RPing is pretty lacklustre.
New Genoa
03-10-2003, 11:37
Sign me up. I need a new alliance.

-Bonstocknian High CommandYou're in.
The Imperial Navy
03-10-2003, 12:13
We expand our empire peacefully. We colonise and expand. we do not annex nations into our empire.
East Islandia
04-10-2003, 03:17
lets go mess up some imperialists who deserve it then!
Omz222
04-10-2003, 03:40
We don't want this organization to become an Attackers Assembly Version 3.

Translation: we suggest that we do not attack these imperalists nation, unelss in special circumstances when they made a special move.
Penguenia
04-10-2003, 03:41
So am I kicked out or not?
East Islandia
04-10-2003, 03:53
and special moves include??
Omz222
04-10-2003, 03:56
and special moves include??

Attacks on innicent nations for expansion puproses, etc.
East Islandia
04-10-2003, 04:00
hmm.. so attacks on innocent nations eh?

I say we get someone to scour the forums and find someone who needs help
and then we go blow some1 up

but if not, then i am content with obeying ur orders... as long as no lives are lost unneccessarily
Garrison II
04-10-2003, 04:05
Russian FOrces isn't that innocent
04-10-2003, 04:07
russian forces is one of the biggest imperialists around here
East Islandia
04-10-2003, 04:10
already we have cries for aid.
Now we just needsomething to REALLY provoke us i guess.
New Genoa
04-10-2003, 19:49
Pengueinia, just liberate the two slaves and PAY them to work for you. Simple.

East Islandia, we intervene when a national aggressively imperializes.

Now,
RF=not worth RPing with
Invasion Force=not worth RPing with (GeForce4 being the best however)

I haven't seen any imperialist moves yet. Finish off Mallberta, for most of us, it is too late for us to jump in and keep track of the RP.

That is all.