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Separatist war+ new war against Attica = outside help needed - Page 2

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McLeod03
23-09-2003, 23:22
As the 80 missiles streak in, the AL-52 and hte AF-100s with MAWS open up, destroying a total of 31, a further 17 are evaded, and the remaining 32 finish off the F-15s, the F-14s, and ten AF-100s.
23-09-2003, 23:24
OOC: How far into FPC territory am I?
Squornshelous
23-09-2003, 23:25
Sorry I couldn't get on. The rest of my troops, tanks and airplanes have arrived, what is our tactical situation?
McLeod03
23-09-2003, 23:27
OOC: I have no idea mate

IC: McLeodian armour consisting of 523 T-96s, and nearly 1000 Bradleys deploy onto the plains in an armoured counter attack against the invading Attican forces, supported by 48 A-10s, 12 AC-130Js, and cover from 48 EA-160Bs recently moved into the area.
Squornshelous
23-09-2003, 23:28
Ok, we're at war w/Attica too? (strategic bombing time! my favorite!)
23-09-2003, 23:29
OOC: How far into FPC territory am I?

OOC: ok, I don't think your reading what I post at all. Look back on the first pages of this thread. You'll see that I posted a message saying that my forces had captured a large path near the border with Attica taht was held by rebels thus giving me the once, border-land occupied by rebels. So your invading me. Also, don't put your "friends" into this, it just shows that your insecure and need other to agree with your decisions. It's kinda lame too to see them make judgements before they ave heard the whole FUCKING STORY!!!
23-09-2003, 23:30
To Squornshelous -- your troops are in FPC and await your orders to engage either the rebels or the Attican forces. (tough this is quite bizarre atm since he wasn't even supposed to be invading in the first place.
23-09-2003, 23:31
OOC M2 or M3 Bradley?

OOC2 FPC I am invading occupied territory. Now answer my question, how far into your territory am I?
23-09-2003, 23:31
OOC: I can confirm for you that I did give Attica four ICBMs with two 5-megaton independantly targetable warheads. Having launched four ICBMs already, he should have no more nuclear weapons.
IC: Talaax will remain neutral for now, but we may reconsider this later on.
We also condemn KIs use of nuclear weapons. We believe, however, that Attica was justified in using them for a counter-strike.
McLeod03
23-09-2003, 23:31
Ok, we're at war w/Attica too? (strategic bombing time! my favorite!)

OOC:

Quick run-down:

Attican invaded FPC, counting on support from numerous nations.

One of those nations, King Island, nuked Attican territory.

AE then replied by nuking KI, who hasn't been heard from since.

Attican also attacked my aerial forces who fired on the ICBMs he launched, so i sank his CBG and destroyed its air-wng.

I've just now begun an armoured counter attack against his front line forces. Feel free to attack his reserves inside the Attican border.
23-09-2003, 23:32
FPC news:
"In a daring move, 10,000 soldiers, 1,200 tanks and 400 vehicles took a large band of territory that covers the border with Attica. There was numerous battles andm any casualties but after a week, this path was secured so that no separatist could escape into Attican territroy.
Casualites:
FPC - 1,200 dead, 189 tanks out of service and 78 vehicles knocked out.
Separatist - 2,455 dead, 300 tanks & 100 vehicles

here's your god damned proof Attica that the rebels ain't sharing a border with you. It's on page 2 of this thread.
Squornshelous
23-09-2003, 23:33
The Squorn forcesx assemble near the battle lines. The Rangers and tanks split into groups of mechanized infantry. The remaining 10,000 Airborne wait in reserve.
23-09-2003, 23:33
OOC: I thought id leet you know, that my reserves hold a defensive border with fortifications on the FPC border.

OOC2: No, you attacked and occupied it from the rebels. Hence, its OCCUPIED TERRITORY.
23-09-2003, 23:35
OOC2 FPC I am invading occupied territory. Now answer my question, how far into your territory am I?

OOC: so this mean your actually confessing to invading FPC land though you had stated that you would not do this? If so, tell me first if all your tanks and vehicles entered the FPC lands at the same time or di they use the few roads that were there?
McLeod03
23-09-2003, 23:35
OOC M2 or M3 Bradley?

OOC2 FPC I am invading occupied territory. Now answer my question, how far into your territory am I?

OOC: (Checks logs) M3A3s
23-09-2003, 23:35
OOC: I can confirm for you that I did give Attica four ICBMs with two 5-megaton independantly targetable warheads. Having launched four ICBMs already, he should have no more nuclear weapons.
IC: Talaax will remain neutral for now, but we may reconsider this later on.
We also condemn KIs use of nuclear weapons. We believe, however, that Attica was justified in using them for a counter-strike.
Crookfur
23-09-2003, 23:36
OOC: Crookfur, being FPCs neighbor, I would know about his geography there. Would I order a tank blitz if i could be stopped at a river?

Possibly actually.
It could be the only route that fufills your claim on only wanting to help the rebels? perhaps the river runs across any possible route? perhaps you had to come through the weakest point in the minefeild?
all things to consider.
You can' assume that an Irag style sweep is going to be at all plausable, even a theoretical WW3 soviet sweep into Germany would be tough to carry off.

i'm not stopping you just making things interesting (essepcailly as everyone semmingly ignores all terrain bar, mountains, fortresses and cities you want realism and a true RP? then you msut consider these things).

Anyway Just for Kicks 2 Ew vulcans have taken off and have engaged thier narrow angle (aimable) broadband jamming systems targeted on your forces [ooc, probabaly nothing if your troops know roughly what they are upto but likely to shake them up a bit].
And yes the Vulcans are escorted by 12 CFF-5Es.
Squornshelous
23-09-2003, 23:38
A group of 36 FB-111's take off and head in the direction of the Attican incursion to FPC territory.

(secret rp technically none of you know this)Back in Squornshelous, 36 B-1B bombers take off with full payloads, they are headed toward strategic targets such as military bases and supply dumps inside Attica. They refuel after take off and head directly to their targets.
23-09-2003, 23:40
4 of the AF-100s maintaining air superiority fire on the Crookfurian aircraft. Another fighter group (50 AF-100s) fire ImRecs at the FB-111s.

In unrelated news, a new AF-100 squadron maintain air superiority over Attica.
23-09-2003, 23:42
OOC2: No, you attacked and occupied it from the rebels. Hence, its OCCUPIED TERRITORY.

OOC: hahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha :D

I attacked and occupied it? ROFL!!! Man, you should become a clown, your damned funny. For those including Attica that do not still understand yet, I'll tell you again:

-Soldiers from the FPC military rebel against the Empire after that a summary execution is carried.
-Those military personnel are holding a big part of the civilians in those 2 countys so to try and make the world believe that they are trying to secede from FPC.
-The rebeling soldiers kill FPCian soldier loyal to the emperor to assure a holding of those 2 countys.
-FPC ian troops regain some lost terrain(the path of land sharing border with Attica) taken by rebels who are also FPCian and that never agreed to receive help from Attica.
McLeod03
23-09-2003, 23:42
The T-96s form a series of wedge shapes across the plain, with Bradleys trailing behind.

Once within range, the T-96s open fire, as do the Bradleys with their TOW systems.

Thats 519 Tank shells (Four misloads, i.e. wrong ammo selected), and around 600 TOW missiles fired.

Overhead, the A-10s begin to launch Mavericks at the Attican tanks, then strafr infantry lines. The AC-130s provide covering fire, opening up with 105 and 40-mm fire on areas of heightened opposition.
Squornshelous
23-09-2003, 23:44
OOC: In retrospect, that was pretty stupid sending in unescorted bombers


All 36 FB-111's were destroyed, one managed to radio back an aproximate number on the fighters. Back at the base, 60 F-14's and 48 FB-111's take off, heading on the same course.
23-09-2003, 23:44
The T-96s form a series of wedge shhaps acroos hte plain, with Bradleys trailing behind.

Once within range, the T-96s open fire, as do the Bradleys iwth thier TOW systems.

Thats 519 Tank shells (Four misloads, i.e. wrong ammo selected), and around 600 TOW missiles fired.

OVerhead, teh A-10s begin to laucnh MAvericks at teh Attican tanks, then begin strafing infantry lines. The AC-130s provide covering fire, opening up with 105 and 40-mm fire on areas of heightened opposition.
What the farcking hell are you doing with T-96's?! I made them, and as I recall I dont exist in your world.
McLeod03
23-09-2003, 23:45
The T-96s form a series of wedge shhaps acroos hte plain, with Bradleys trailing behind.

Once within range, the T-96s open fire, as do the Bradleys iwth thier TOW systems.

Thats 519 Tank shells (Four misloads, i.e. wrong ammo selected), and around 600 TOW missiles fired.

OVerhead, teh A-10s begin to laucnh MAvericks at teh Attican tanks, then begin strafing infantry lines. The AC-130s provide covering fire, opening up with 105 and 40-mm fire on areas of heightened opposition.
What the farcking hell are you doing with T-96's?! I made them, and as I recall I dont exist in your world.

When i bought the tanks of whoever it was, you existed. Now you seem to have disappeared. Now get off the thread.
Squornshelous
23-09-2003, 23:46
OOC: crap I have to go (dinner) hopefully I can get on again later.
23-09-2003, 23:47
The T-96s form a series of wedge shhaps acroos hte plain, with Bradleys trailing behind.

Once within range, the T-96s open fire, as do the Bradleys iwth thier TOW systems.

Thats 519 Tank shells (Four misloads, i.e. wrong ammo selected), and around 600 TOW missiles fired.

OVerhead, teh A-10s begin to laucnh MAvericks at teh Attican tanks, then begin strafing infantry lines. The AC-130s provide covering fire, opening up with 105 and 40-mm fire on areas of heightened opposition.
What the farcking hell are you doing with T-96's?! I made them, and as I recall I dont exist in your world.

They are McLeodian MBTs based on modified M1A2s that happen to have the same deisgnation. Now get off the thread.
Ah I love filing lawsuits in NS... MY DESIGNATION!


The 3rd mechanized army is stil dug in in Attica.
23-09-2003, 23:47
The Leopard C2s, Leopard 2s, King Leopards, and T-902's open fire with all they have. (Thats about 1180 shells, take a few for misfires.)

OOC: Were your TOWs aimed at the front line or the rear line?

The enemy Mavericks and Tank Shells destroy approx 300 King Leopards, 70 Leopard 2s, 70 T-902s, 60 Leopard C2s, and kill quite a few personell. AF-100s are called to the area to mount opposition against the enemy AF-10s and AC-130s. Other AF-100s are sent to defend against Squornshelous' aircraft.
Crookfur
23-09-2003, 23:50
The missiles streak In quite literally slamming into a huge wave of couter measures (just about anything that can thrown out including full decoys) despite this 4 of the Double dragons and one of the vulcans take hits, the Vulcan is heavily winged and slowly tumbles towards the ground as the crew eject (hmm interesting RP there) 2 of the double dragons disolve in balls of flame while the crews of the remaining 2 hit fighter manage to eject in time.
In return a massive wave of 20 ACM8 missiles blaze out against the AF-100s running under strap down giudance until within attack range when thier seaker heads suddenly activate and the engagemnt mortors fire up.

in respsonse to this a flight of 4 B-71X 4 B-1Bs and take off from bases within Crookfur
Through Crookfur forward operating bases engines roar to life as the air units mobilise.
23-09-2003, 23:50
OOC: fuck man? You keep ignoring my replies in this thread. I asked you to tell me how your tanks entered FPC. Using the few roads or going trough plains.
Crookfur
23-09-2003, 23:50
All along the Attican lines threat arning recivers start going off indicating targeting illuminations from a number of different sources and sensors.
23-09-2003, 23:52
OOC: How did you counter-measure an Image Recognition missile?

OOC2: What kind of missile is an ACM8?
McLeod03
23-09-2003, 23:53
The T-96s take heavy losses, with around 200 being utterly destroyed, and a further 150 being damaged heavily, along with well over 400 Bradleys.

As the Attican fighters close in, the EA-160s open fire with their entire payload of MAMRAAMS, totally around 288 missiles.

OOC: At the front lines.

Another volley of TOW missiles is fired at the front lines, with yet more 30-, 40-, and 105-mm cannon fire.

Further reinforcements are sent for to help defend against Attican aerial assets.

Back at the base, another wave of 48 F-15s is readied, and 96 F/A-18s are scrambled, along with 48 Su-27s.

They will arrive on scene in roughly 5 minutes.
23-09-2003, 23:56
OOC: How far away were they when they launched the MAMRAAMs?

OOC2: Also, I cant imagine 30 and 40 mm cannon fire hurting tanks...
23-09-2003, 23:57
OOC: How far away were they when they launched the MAMRAAMs?

OOC2: Also, I cant imagine 30 and 40 mm cannon fire hurting tanks...
24-09-2003, 00:04
Unless he has mysteirous super gasses in them to aid penetration like FC.


Mcleod- I either exist or I never did, hurry up and pick one.
Crookfur
24-09-2003, 00:04
Well it would help if you told us how it worked, straight Image regonition doesn't tell us much, is it high res? low res? light and shadow?
The amount of power and EW vulcan combined with Double dragons could likely do some damage to electronics plus the beams you use to jam IR seakers also work aaginst EO devices...

Or you Dance... (Crookfur term for the insane doging manouvers that Dragon Pearls can perform).

As for the ACM8 think MICA crossed with russian/israely tech and a millmetric wave final phase giudance system with very advanced ECCM and no esacpe end game.
24-09-2003, 00:09
THe beams against IR seekers are infrared. My cameras are high res that ONLY work within the range of human site. They track the object itself, after scanning it. Plus they have limited vectoring capabilities.
Crookfur
24-09-2003, 00:10
AS Attican forces advance (can i assume that you still are or have you stopped for Mcleod3 to shoot at you?) the targeting emisions get stronger and suddenly a hail of 160mm Autonomous artillery shells rain down from the postions occupied by Crookfur bowman SPGs who problem run away (thats 96 shells).
24-09-2003, 00:11
The shells fall and destroy 20 King Leopards.

OOC: Wouldnt they hit McLeod as well?
Crookfur
24-09-2003, 00:14
Not always you can mix lasers in aswell.

Since you neglected to mention the number of missiles i'm gibing you a fair chance on in my mind slightly dubious weapons (yes i know it works, but small and effective enough to fit inside a AAM?).
Crookfur
24-09-2003, 00:16
Unless he is being insanely stupid and fighting you at a total rnage of 6ft not really, they were mostly targeted at the rear of your formation.
24-09-2003, 00:16
[Youre gonna love this crookfur. Now go yell at evil whole for selling me the. ]
1,000 T-7 Gilgamesh tank destroyers will be sent to help Attican Empire as he pleases.
24-09-2003, 00:17
Assume the fighters launched 3/4 of their max payload.
Autonomous City-states
24-09-2003, 00:21
Rumors would begin to circulate that FACS diplomats have been working in backchannels nearly nonstop to negotiate some sort of peace settlement between Attica and FPC to end the fighting... and that both sides are listening now.
Crookfur
24-09-2003, 00:23
Attican Empire: which is?

Dark terror: and i suppose he is going to be able to train his tank crews to actually use them and his techs to maintain them right away? and they arrive just like that?

its OK with the rest of the highland crops now arrived and deploying i have close to that number myself... (ok so more like 800).
24-09-2003, 00:24
Ill send Bisonic crews with them... only sliggggght problem is getting em there.


Lol.


On second though, the 3rd mechanized army is moving towards the front.
24-09-2003, 00:25
Max is 12, so 9.
Autonomous City-states
24-09-2003, 00:26
The Secretary-General asks all combatants to cease fire and return to their staging locations, pending a breakthrough in peace negotiations.
24-09-2003, 00:27
The Secretary-General asks all combatants to cease fire and return to their staging locations, pending a breakthrough in peace negotiations.
We will gladly comply, as two large deployments are straining our previously frightening economy.
24-09-2003, 00:28
We will comply once FPCs allies back down.
24-09-2003, 00:30
We will comply once FPCs allies back down.

I have sent propositions to ACS and he will forward them to you. If you agree to them, war will be over.
Crookfur
24-09-2003, 00:30
Well we'll take 1 more Double dragon down (since multiple missiles agaisnt each plane some will get lucky and the sheer amount of stuff being chcuked about will likely crew with control system etc), thats still 16 ACM8s you have to account for.

As for a cease fire, you are the one who has to retreat.
Autonomous City-states
24-09-2003, 00:31
We are currently negotiating a settlement in which the Attican Empire and FPC will both withdraw to their pre-war positions in return for freedom for the two breakaway provinces and a trilateral nonaggression agreement between all three parties. The Federation asks Attican Empire, rebel FPC, and royalist FPC diplomats to meet with our mediation team on board the FNS Tiamat to formally hammer out the deal.

*The Tiamat and her eight escort submarines all surface in international waters just outside the FPC-Attican sea border*
24-09-2003, 00:32
Our offer for talks to be held still stands as well.
Crookfur
24-09-2003, 00:32
Unfortunalty the message came to late for the Rebel comand HQ which received some Bunker buster lovin from a vulcan.
24-09-2003, 00:33
The emperor of FPC will gladly send a team of 5 diplomats to the ACS ship.
24-09-2003, 00:33
OOC: Arent your double dragons attacking over Attican territory?

10 AF-100s are downed.

The AF-100s over FPC begin returning to Attican territory, Attican tugboats begin salvaging the remains of the carrier group, and Attican tanks begin returning to Attica.
Autonomous City-states
24-09-2003, 00:34
OOC: To clear all our heads, I've opened up a new thread for the peace negotiations.
Crookfur
24-09-2003, 00:35
Nope they were in FPC airspace escorting the vulcans that were having fun annoying your tank columns by jamming thier coms.
24-09-2003, 00:42
well guys if you tell me where it is that you are and how to fight I will see what us boys in Canada can do.
Crookfur
24-09-2003, 00:44
Catachan VI: its over for the moment.
24-09-2003, 02:25
KI - coord. sent.

The five C-130s slowly chugged over the Attican coastline.
Making their way to the capital with the coordinates, the 5 planes split up and started circling the capital. All the buildings below looked very small and the place was crisscrossed with roads. The Attican pilots whizzed through the sky in their advanced fighters.
*Desto wing, this is Captain D'ycho, commence with plan "Sukka" on my command*
The C-130's, seperated over the capital began to open their cargo bays.
*on my mark release load.....mark*
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/c-130-25-s.jpg


*Each plane dropped one large object each, they were primitive but just as deadly nuclear bombs, all armed and prepared to detonate upon contact with the ground below*
*Dest wing, procede with evasion as planned, split up and good luck. out*


OOC: sorry to say but we have dropped five nuclear bombs on your capital.
This is taken as a threat to us as for we will protect AE. Before the planes where able to reach the capital 20 Su-37K switchblades took off the grigor carrier in south AE and have set a course for intercept.

Fighter pilot cockpit:
"Roger this is grigor one reporting in"

"Hear you loud and clear greigor group you know what to do!"

"Roger"

4 mins later

"C-130's what is your destination?"

"If you do not tell us we will have to use lethal force agianst you"

OOC: Attican Empire was told by King Island that he wanted to send C-130s to the capitol to help support Attican Empire. Attican Empire gave him coordinates (I assume the coordinates were for landing the C-130s or for a meeting place, and that AE was authorizing the C-130s flying over the capitol). That's where the C-130s were headed, and why they were there.
He actull gave that cammand! Holly crap what idiot does that? Let C-130s fly over your capital and bomb it!

Ethier way that was a act agianst civilians, KI prepare for invasion. Two carrier groups are on there way heading towards KI. Air strikes will happen. Right now 4 B-2s have lefted off for a ir strike on air bases in King Island.
24-09-2003, 02:26
OOC: I read it as a location for troops, I gave him the coordinates for a military staging point.
24-09-2003, 02:31
OOC: I read it as a location for troops, I gave him the coordinates for a military staging point.
OOC:He bombed you right? What did he bomb if so?
24-09-2003, 03:06
Is any further assistance required in this war?

I am prepared to commit two carrier battle groups, three air squadrons of F-22 fighters and B-1B bombers along with 35,000 troops.

If you wish to fight against the warmongering Attican Empire, these forces will be given shelter in our base inside FPC. Naval facilities can easily accept these forces, and offer a good base of opreations against the Attican invasion.
Forces shall be deployed immediately. Thankyou for your help.
24-09-2003, 03:08
Is any further assistance required in this war?

I am prepared to commit two carrier battle groups, three air squadrons of F-22 fighters and B-1B bombers along with 35,000 troops.

If you wish to fight against the warmongering Attican Empire, these forces will be given shelter in our base inside FPC. Naval facilities can easily accept these forces, and offer a good base of opreations against the Attican invasion.
Forces shall be deployed immediately. Thankyou for your help.

Isochronous, the war is over and peace talks are nearly completed with sucess. Though I do not need troops to defend myself anymore, your soldiers could be used in keeping the peace in the newly formed country by those 2 rebelling countys.
24-09-2003, 03:17
OOC: He claimed to have bombed Attica City, killing over 400,000.
24-09-2003, 15:07
The Altaranian Fleet has been observing the (rapid, christ, you guys stay on here all night?! ;)) developments in this war, and will stay in the area to maintain the peace until we are sure that the situation has calmed down somewhat.
24-09-2003, 16:35
Since it appears that peace has almost been reached in the area, the cbg Alpha will return home.
24-09-2003, 16:47
Any help we can take refugee and take position in this war
we have many troops ready to attack
McLeod03
24-09-2003, 16:50
Any help we can take refugee and take position in this war
we have many troops ready to attack

Dude, stfu. The war is over now, and you missed it all.
24-09-2003, 16:55
After being resupplied at Crookfur's port, and being given a replacement carrier, the Carrier Battle group returns to just off Attica Waters.
African Commonwealth
24-09-2003, 17:18
IC:
Congolese troops arrive too late to aid the defense of FPC. The 500 quad AA gun Huntress tanks and 35.000 men of the Commonwealth first are now in the FPC mainland, taking up position to defend the country should the deceitful attican empire attack again.

Regards,
General Ndelebe,
Commonwealth Defense

OOC:
You guys should really wait for all involved parties to post before going on with a conflict - otherwise I won't bother to post detailed posts otherwise.

Regards,
Tias.
24-09-2003, 17:27
Ok

The fllet pulls back to Crookfur again, and prepares to move to FPC
Squornshelous
25-09-2003, 23:16
OOC: crap I really have to find more time to be online

As the squornshelan fighters and bombers approach the Attican aricraft, a group of 30 A-3 Bullfrgo LAV's armed with radar guided SAM's wait for the perfect moment to launch their attack.
Squornshelous
25-09-2003, 23:17
OOC: crap I really have to find more time to be online

As the squornshelan fighters and bombers approach the Attican aricraft, a group of 30 A-3 Bullfrgo LAV's armed with radar guided SAM's wait for the perfect moment to launch their attack.
25-09-2003, 23:26
OOC: You are still attacking?
Autonomous City-states
25-09-2003, 23:27
OOC: You all do realize that FPC and the Attican Empire signed a peace deal yesterday evening? So that means all you guys, unless you have specific treaties with those two respective parties to stay there, need to send your fleets and armies home.
25-09-2003, 23:33
Here the feedback on what's going on:

FPC and Attica have cease the war against each other. They have both signed a treaty with multiple articles. One wich grants indepandance to the 2 rebeling countys.
26-09-2003, 20:38
OOC-been away a while.

KI - coord. sent.

This is proof that i did get the coordinates to the Attican capital, my request appeared in one of the earlier pages stating a request for the coordinates of the Attican capital. This proves that attica doesn't read the threads he wrote.

Another of my threads states that my population has distributed around the world, http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=74204&highlight=

Weapons were obtained in secret by telegram and the vendor will remain anonymous.
26-09-2003, 20:41
*secret IC*
I will pledge all available forces in the war for Attica
Our small military will begin planning to aid in the defence of Attica. We would like to send several transport planes to your capital so our commanders can plan joint action.
Please send coordinates to CH-5s.

here was original message
Autonomous City-states
26-09-2003, 21:38
OOC: He accepted the damage and we moved on days ago.
26-09-2003, 21:40
I just wanted to know if anyone thinks we should ignore king islands.

He claims to have his population distributed around the world, as his homeland is tectonically active (earthquakes and volcanos).

He also claims that he has aircraft and nuclear capabilities.

The two circumstances dont make sense.

He also claimed that my 20 warheads on his territory only killed 12 troops. Now, how can he have his population distributed around the world, and still have nuclear and aircraft capabilities?
Squornshelous
30-09-2003, 02:25
crap, forget I was ever involved in this.


OOC: I really need to find more time to be online