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Atlantian Outcasts
15-09-2003, 22:41
did ANYONE learn the lesson about using MOABS?
imported_Kalessin
15-09-2003, 23:57
Message from the Kalessin Ministry of Peace to Melkor Unchained:

"Our fleets are currently all occupied elsewhere, but we are able to spare a single wing of Dragons and a coterie of sorcerers to aid you. We would appreciate suggestions on where they would be best deployed."
New Genoa
16-09-2003, 00:01
OOC: I hate to add another OOC post, but I agree LSR. Pilot, you RP awesomely, but tone down those MOAB numbers, to say three or four, like I did. Oh, and hold the invasion for now... I'm trying to organize something with ADK that involves a re-RP of his bombing raid. Until then, I cannot use any ground forces now...
Pilot
16-09-2003, 00:06
[ OOC: I also hate to make another OOC post. I have edited the post to eliminate MOAB blasters. The reason why the attack involves so many planes with such powerfulness is because I don't believe Gravships are completely realistic in any sense, therefore, causing major damage to them as soon as possible is the best resort. ]
Liberty Fighters
16-09-2003, 00:07
OOC:Yes i agree[to the above] also, could you guys give me the occ thread link? i was stupid and didnt add it to favs
16-09-2003, 01:41
{Tag; For Intelligence Purposes}
Western Might
16-09-2003, 02:11
SDF Command

The Fleet Command Sdmiral was reveiwing intell reports. The did not look good. "Com get ahold of Base Station Lincon send them order to get the 2nd and 4th reserve fleets ready for deployment. Next get ahold of Of Battle Station 2 hope and get the 9th, 10th and 12th on the move to the nearest jump gate. And the get Base station Lindo Chi to get the 1st,3rd and reserve Carrier fleet operational.

"Aye sir"

We will win the day he throught.
Gerania
16-09-2003, 02:18
After a long trip from Gerania, the Eastern and Northern armies had landed on the shores of New Genoa and were moving toward the central part of the country. They will probably reach and reenforce the Pilotian forces this evening. The Geranian navy sailed back after completing its mission of escorting the transports (The Aardvark Spec Ops will sail back with them).
Meanwhile, the soldiers in the Geranian Aardwolf Elite corps had nothing better to do then to engage in pointless conversations.

CORPORAL George Jackson
"Hey Sergey. I've heard your parants were Edolian. Is that true?"
CORPORAL Sergey von Backansturge
"They were, indeed; however, they spent most of their lives in Gerania."
CORPORAL George Jackson
"You do know that the Edolians are also involved in this war. We might even fight along with them!"
CORPORAL Sergey von Backansturge
“If I was to choose, corporal, I would not be anywhere near them.”
CORPORAL George Jackson
“And why is that, Sergey?”
CORPORAL Sergey von Backansturge
“It’s quite simple. They’re all gay, and I cannot stand them.”
They both turn around at the sound of jets soaring past.
CORPORAL George Jackson (panicked)
“Are those our planes?”
CORPORAL Sergey von Backansturge
“I believe they are. At least we have air cover.”
CORPORAL George Jackson (relieved)
“Oh, good. I’m going to take a nap now. Catch you later, Mr. Backansturge.”

At the same instance 50 GICA-120s (Geranian Industry Cargo Aircraft) landed in the airbases of New Genoa, delivering 10 DTS-2 Multi-Targeting Platforms.
Also, 300 Roc Heavy bombers, each carrying 35 bunker-busters and 1500 F-22Ys with modified bunker-busters on their AA missiles took off with a single mission to destroy as many Melkorian gravships as possible. They will be escorted by 2000 Phoenix IIBs and 1000 Phoenix IIAs. These plains will engage in air combat with any enemy jets met on their way. After the escorting mission is complete they will return to one of the air bases of the alliance for a quick refuel.
Abu-Dhabi Khristatata
16-09-2003, 02:28
The pyramid shaped objects cut up through the bombers as damage control systems begin to go online, but were rendered useless as more of the pyramids crashed through the eight fighter-bombers.

The computers malfunctioned and, as the impaled remnants of eight LO-7's plumetted towards the cities of New Genoa, all the control rods were withdrawn from the reactors.

The pressure built, thousands of pounds of pressure ber square millimeter, until the reactors shot out of their casings and into the air.

The chain reaction continued as the reactors fell at speeds of 1.5 mach.

They exploded, with the force of five kilotons....
New Genoa
16-09-2003, 02:33
OOC: Interesting... *goes off to delete his post of total death...*

IC: They came as quick as lightning and and as powerful as it as well. Explosions rocked the city as buildings crashed into each other and toppled over troops formations. People screamed and ran for their lives. Other smouldering remants landed harmlessly outside of the city, destroying farms and small suburban communities...

OOC: So I take it the eastern half isn't dead? :?
Abu-Dhabi Khristatata
16-09-2003, 02:43
OOC: Interesting... *goes off to delete his post of total death...*

IC: They came as quick as lightning and and as powerful as it as well. Explosions rocked the city as buildings crashed into each other and toppled over troops formations. People screamed and ran for their lives. Other smouldering remants landed harmlessly outside of the city, destroying farms and small suburban communities...

OOC: So I take it the eastern half isn't dead? :?


OOC: No, TJ saved your ass :P

*keeps ortillery in reserve, has to help clean up the Pro-Genonese fleets.*

IC:

The Byzaninte vessels swept in quickly firing their gauss cannons into the enemy space vessels and launching their fighters into a defensive screen.



The first, second, third, and fourth, terristial navies left from port. Destitnation: New Genoa
16-09-2003, 02:44
The pyramid shaped objects cut up through the bombers ....

[snip]

They exploded, with the force of five kilotons....

The tetrahedric vessels scattered after chasing down and destroying in a sequence of quick flashes the eight bombers. Eleven arrowed into the sky to make a quick half orbit before scattered reentry vectors; the twelfth sputtered and made a splashdown NW of NG before sinking...

Excerpted from mission records:

"Flight is a go, repeat, go, none lost and only one damaged. They clearly were not expecting us, but I would not count on ever having that degree of surprise again. Flight niner is going for emergency drop, rest going plan A."

"I'd hate to see the fallout from this in the next election..."
New Genoa
16-09-2003, 02:51
OOC: ADK for the sake of RP don'tb totally try to vaporize a whole nation, or half of one again, please.

IC: Alarms buzzed and firetrucks raced through the streets at incredible speeds. Over 5,000 civilians were dead and twice the number of military. Things were getting ugly.

OOC: Is it me or is this thread getting well, dull?
16-09-2003, 02:56
OOC: ADK for the sake of RP don'tb totally try to vaporize a whole nation, or half of one again, please.

IC: Alarms buzzed and firetrucks raced through the streets at incredible speeds. Over 5,000 civilians were dead and twice the number of military. Things were getting ugly.

OOC: Is it me or is this thread getting well, dull?

OOC: It's just you.

The man in body paint got on the radio again.

"Can we do it? It's a once-in-a-lifetime artistic opportunity. I insist, we won't get mixed up in the actual fighting, we understand the risks of a war zone, and so on and so forth... but to come so far only to be stopped by a little thing like some radioactive fallout? Pah. Tell your citizens to stay away; we are artists!"

Meanwhile, from one of the other ships nearby, an Enviromental Impact Officer tried to reach his NG counterparts.

"Hello? I understand you have some fallout problems? We'd like to help you with the cleanup ASAP, if you don't mind..."
New Genoa
16-09-2003, 03:02
Acknowledged. Electricity has also outed in the entire city. Requesting assistance in extinguishing flames. Over.

OOC: Done for the night, post-wise. I'll be on a few more minutes.
Omz222
16-09-2003, 03:31
OOC: Sorry to plug in this, but does this mean that I am also unhurt due to the fact that the whole war of ADK with me started because of this firebomb incident, which never existed now ICly?

So, I'll take it as "unhurt". Yay.
Edolia
16-09-2003, 11:57
Vice-Commander Arnold von Gethrou stared off into the distance. He could just barely spot the flashes of light coming from the great battle off in the distance. He turned to his adjunct."Leftenant von Jeers, what do you make of our chances?"
Von Jeers shrugged slightly. "Sir, it's hard to tell. We've got a lot of help but Melkor is strong. His gravships are nothing to be trifled with. I don't like the reports that they're headed to Blaine Island though. That means we'll get hit first."
The Vice-Commander frowned. "I'm not wild about the idea of taking the full brunt of the attack either. It doesn't seem right that we are going to lose tens or hundreds of thousands of young men to stop an attack against our ally. However... I've asked the Pilotian commander to send back-up."
"Maybe we wont need it." the adjunct smiled wistfully. "Perhaps we'll win in the air. I certainly hope so."
"I'm afraid that it looks like they're going to at least land. The Air Force is up there, hopefully putting the hurt on those bastards but the reports coming in say that they're taking heavy casualties."
"We've really put our..." the adjunct paused for effect, "...willie... in the meat grinder, haven't we sir?"
"That's exactly what I was thinking."

---
Edolian troops begin readying themselves, building up greater fortifications and moving around equipment. The goal was to make sure that the fight for the island would be slow and painful. The Edolians had a few advantages though, the first being that they were in friendly territory. The second was that this was the kind of fight Edolian troops were trained for. A long, grueling defensive battle was exactly the specialty of the completely well-trained Edolian forces. And with their powerful, maneuverable tanks, they would have an even greater advantage.

---
The second fleet begins landing on Blaine Island. 400,000 and 3,500 more A2-Manticore MBTs begin landing, moving to secure important positions.

Total Edolian forces on Blaine Island:
700,000 Infantry
6,000 A-2 Manticore MBTs
250 B-1 Imperium unmanned MBTs
2,500 Gryphon-II attack helicopters
+ defensive batteries and 800 SAM missile batteries

---
<<OOC: Waiting for Melkor to respond to my air attack.>>

--
<<OOC: A few OOC notes. To respond to Gerania. Edolians are not gay. Edolian elite Hellenic Corps troops are... "open-minded."
For a country of over 830,000,000 people and a frightening economy, Edolia has a relatively small army, just over a million soldiers. However, each one is trained and equipped far above the norm. Thus, 700,000 Edolian troops (yes, most of my army) are far superior to 700,000 average-nation soldiers.
I also wanted to make a point about MOABs. People are complaining that they shouldn't be used so often. I'm not so sure about that. It seems to me, that in a world like NS, where most nations are rich and powerful, MOABs would be somewhat common. Because everyone requires heavy firepower but the use of nuclear weapons results in mutual annihilation, the heavy punch that MOABs give most likely make them be used with some frequency. Thus, I don't see why it would be unreasonable for a nation to drop a couple hundred of them. It's not like they do all that much damage. The radius of destruction for a MOAB is about 200 meters. Yes, that's a lot, but it would require tens of thousands of them to really hurt a country as New Genoa.
I agree with Pilot. Since gravships aren't really particularly realistic, the only way to fight them is to use overwhelming force.>>
Atlantian Outcasts
16-09-2003, 15:14
Melkor, I am still awaighting your casualtys from my attacks on you
imported_Grunge-France
16-09-2003, 17:59
nevermind
Western Might
16-09-2003, 18:35
Abiard the Hugo.
"Sir looks like the Grunge-France ships are falling back sir."

"Hmm let them go do not chase them they fought well today."

"Aye Sir'

Sir were just got a report from SDF Command that more inforcements are on the way. And that the 4th and 11th Fleet have just arrived'\

"very Good"
16-09-2003, 19:03
The Diablo fighters had arrived at the IP over New Genoa.

Weapons ripple salvoed, firing kinetic kill missiles at an acceleration of three hundred gravities towards static defenses on the ground. Air defenses where the favorite targets of the pilots.

288 missiles roared towards seperate defensive installations. Were the targets not primarily above ground, the missiles would still penetrate the ground to a depth of about ten meters.

The impact would liberate more than enough kinetic energy to destroy Anti-aircraft defenses and small bunkers, not to mention artillery and such things.

Twevle Borealis bombers were the next wave. They flew over East Genoa, and unleashed massive kinetic missiles, fired straight down, at factories, and at the port facilities.

Twelve of their escorting fighters broke for the ground, and proceeded to randomly strafe the city with their plasma cannons, caving their missiles for when they would need them.

************

Out to sea, the 12 Diablos in the L.A.S. Confederacy launched assuming CAP positions over the fleet.

On the bridge, the Admiral turned to his Scan Tech and said, "Find me a target."

"Yessir."

[OOC: Anyone east of New Genoa?]
Gerania
16-09-2003, 20:06
BUMP! MELKOR, PLEASE, for the sake of God, RESPOND!
imported_Grunge-France
16-09-2003, 20:31
(OO: Change of plans: as I said earlier, Melkor being bussy is totally normal and has nothing wrong, he has a life as everyone in here, HOWEVER, there should not be any reason of limiting myself in this game because of him, therefore, The 4th Armada with the trasnports directed to New Genoa since the beggining, and the rest of The Armadas are still fighting the Melkorian forces, so, as Melkor stated, we are stil in a "turn game" I hit, he hit, now I hit again and he has yet to respond, so, everything ok)
Melkor Unchained
16-09-2003, 21:37
ooc: melkor, youre a trash mod. you really do bend the rules in your favor, and basically you have a ton of explaining to do.

ic: while it is not the largest force ever assembled, it will do what it can, the trailer park region is now mobilizing for war against melkor. The entire trailer park space fleet (320 Large cruisers each equipped with 8 squadrons of smaller fighters and 560 medium and small cruisers each equipped with 4 and 2 squadrons respectively) are preparing to mobilize. Each large cruiser comes equipped with 60 pulse turrets, 10 medium (15 mm) rail guns, and 5 large (40 mm) rail guns. The medium and small cruisers have 1/2 and 1/4 (round up) of the artillery respectively. The small cruisers have two large rail guns instead of 1.25. I am allowing imitora to control this fleet in an effort to aid the allied powers, becuase surely he'll know what to do with this.

[ooc: well, I'm sorry you think that. As far as I'm concerned, you no longer exist in any sort of IC capacity. *points to his contoversial RP Policy guideline that says 'I won't RP with people who are unjustly assholes to me OOCLy.'*

Have a good day, and please, in the future, put some sort of qualifier with your diatribes as opposed to calling me a "trash mod" for no reason.]
Atlantian Outcasts
16-09-2003, 21:40
Melkor, I have made 2 attacks on you at the same time (In different locations) they where made at the begining of the war, and you have yet to respond. I kindly ask for your response
Melkor Unchained
16-09-2003, 21:52
Melkor, I have made 2 attacks on you at the same time (In different locations) they where made at the begining of the war, and you have yet to respond. I kindly ask for your response

[ooc: look, I'm just not in the freaking mood to deal with this shit at the moment. I was pulled out of my best friend's car last night by an asshole cop at gunpoint, and I come back to the forums to this.
First off, AO, I have not landed any troops yet, so your attack on the "front lines" is negated.

Furthermore, I asked you for numbers, and I dont feel like having to look up another thread to find them. Just copy the numbers and repost them here. I will be responding sometime later tonight, if I can bring myself to wade through the bullshit. Such as it is, I'm getting rather tired of the way some people are acting in this thread, and I'm not sure if it's worth it to continue this story arc.

And just a note, don't post to the thread saying "such and such hasn't posted casulaties yet" over and over again. If you have a problem, take it up with me in a TM.]
Western Might
16-09-2003, 22:53
"Sir all the reinforcement have arrived"

"Good, break them up into defencive formation. Each fleet is to have a Cap of 100 fighters. We'll wait for the enemy to attack agian.
Atlantian Outcasts
16-09-2003, 23:05
Melkor, look, I am sorry what happened to you, but that's no reason to be rude to me. I'm just stating that you have not responded to ANY of my attacks (how long has this lasted? 2-3 days?) (AND I stated it kindly)

AND....EVERY time I re-post the attack, you find another thing wrong with it. So, FINE, no MSV attack, but you still have to responed to my Fighter attack
Abu-Dhabi Khristatata
16-09-2003, 23:17
The troops marched into the Nu and Nu II class dropships aboard the Theta and Theta II class assault ships. A battillion on the Theta's and a regiment on the Theta II's. 21.5 divisons in all were being prepared to land in New Genoa.


The Byzantine Terristial Navy was near the roaring naval battle. A Deathrain II class missile cruiser was picking targets for it's 750 Tomahawk II missiles, packing a substance similar to Greek Fire.
New Genoa
16-09-2003, 23:23
The Admiral nodded as he watched enemy missiles fly overhead and slam into doomed military forces behind him. Reports had flooded in to the 1st and 2nd Fleets that casualties of the waiting military force had reached over 20,000.

"Are we ready to launch a salvo, Admiral?" his aide inquired.

"Not yet. Let's let those sea mines and EMP sea mines take out any advancing vessels. We'll have those 21 subs that have submerged and propelled their way to enemy fleets torpedo the enemy also before any salvos are fired. Not to mention a fighter attack also will be included."

"I understand Admiral."
Omz222
16-09-2003, 23:25
"Not yet. Let's let those sea mines and EMP sea mines take out any advancing vessels. We'll have those 21 subs that have submerged and propelled their way to enemy fleets torpedo the enemy also before any salvos are fired. Not to mention a fighter attack also will be included."
OOC: A tip. For subs, use those Mk.48 ADCAP torpedoes which can kill some destroyers in one hit, if you can afford nearly 4 million for each torpedo...
imported_Grunge-France
16-09-2003, 23:30
Admiral: ADK´s naval forces 200 kilometers away from us, Commodore.

Commodore: Great, all we needed, Melkorians and then this: well, bring it on! prepare the "Nuredon" Missiles in the Battleships (Nuredon Missiles: above match 5, with a warhead containing an electro-chemical system wich will bassically act as a missile with plastic explosives, only that this ones are specially designed for vessels).

*
**

Admiral: the missiles are ready, Sir.

Commodore: as soon as I give you the signal, order to launch them, and order a wave of combetional missiles be launched from the cruisiers.
imported_Kalessin
16-09-2003, 23:33
A full wing of one hundred great dragons took to the sky above Kalessin, awaiting the picture which they hoped Melkor would provide.


Message from the Kalessin Ministry of Peace to Melkorian high command:

"We need a photograph of a suitable target location to be able to aid you. As such, we strongly suggest that you provide such as soon as possible."
imported_Grunge-France
16-09-2003, 23:41
Commodore: Open fire!

***The ships started firing at the ADK´s fleet***
Atlantian Outcasts
16-09-2003, 23:42
I guys, I'm quitting NS, so I'm out
imported_Grunge-France
17-09-2003, 00:10
quitting NS? :(
Liberty Fighters
17-09-2003, 00:18
OCC: two things, AO dont you think of leaving, you faught well ,continue to fight well ,melkor just had a bad day, you bopth can say sprry and go back to killing eachother(wow thats ironic). Point #2 NG, you REALLY need to declare how much air defnese yo have, they seem to be acting like landing/flying over NG is a walk in the park, thats impossible, with the number of Aircraft the allies posted as defening NG im suprised that NG citizens can see the sun!
New Genoa
17-09-2003, 00:25
OOC: Air defenses as requested! :D

Navy Fleets: 1275 various aircraft currently
Other: 3525 other aircraft, including 750 bombers; Fighter support concentrated in east, west, and south.

My fleets
1st and 2nd: east coast
4th Fleet: off Southport, more to the west
3rd Fleet: north coast
5th Fleet: south coast

Exact Allied numbers are unknown. Ask them.
Atlantian Outcasts
17-09-2003, 00:26
OCC: two things, AO dont you think of leaving, you faught well ,continue to fight well ,melkor just had a bad day, you bopth can say sprry and go back to killing eachother(wow thats ironic). Point #2 NG, you REALLY need to declare how much air defnese yo have, they seem to be acting like landing/flying over NG is a walk in the park, thats impossible, with the number of Aircraft the allies posted as defening NG im suprised that NG citizens can see the sun!

It's more then just Melkor
Pilot
17-09-2003, 00:34
Melkor, I have made 2 attacks on you at the same time (In different locations) they where made at the begining of the war, and you have yet to respond. I kindly ask for your response

[ooc: look, I'm just not in the freaking mood to deal with this shit at the moment. I was pulled out of my best friend's car last night by an asshole cop at gunpoint, and I come back to the forums to this.
First off, AO, I have not landed any troops yet, so your attack on the "front lines" is negated.

Furthermore, I asked you for numbers, and I dont feel like having to look up another thread to find them. Just copy the numbers and repost them here. I will be responding sometime later tonight, if I can bring myself to wade through the bullshit. Such as it is, I'm getting rather tired of the way some people are acting in this thread, and I'm not sure if it's worth it to continue this story arc.

And just a note, don't post to the thread saying "such and such hasn't posted casulaties yet" over and over again. If you have a problem, take it up with me in a TM.]

Oh, I cannot begin to tell you how much I don't care. Everyone has launched attacks against you, and I won't speak for anyone else, but I know that I really can't RP any further until I know what I've hit and what I haven't. You started this conflict and up to this point, all the major parties [New Genoa, Edolia, Pilot, Gerania, Pantera, etc.] have RP'ed very amicibly, so don't look for pity as to why you can't handle the response it has gotten.
Liberty Fighters
17-09-2003, 00:39
OOC: Air defenses as requested! :D

Navy Fleets: 1275 various aircraft currently
Other: 3525 other aircraft, including 750 bombers; Fighter support concentrated in east, west, and south.

My fleets
1st and 2nd: east coast
4th Fleet: off Southport, more to the west
3rd Fleet: north coast
5th Fleet: south coast

Exact Allied numbers are unknown. Ask them.

SO as i said, all you agressors[melkor and his allies] are acting like its no ordeal to get over NG in the skies, or in space, but in actuality, its a wonder if the NG citizens can even SEE the skies due to so much allied air cover
Adejaani
17-09-2003, 00:43
OOC: Oye, not keeping up. My responses are thus:

• Naval Forces (1 Nimitz, roughly a dozen escorts, four Arsenal Ships) in the north/north east area, ready to smash any landing onto New Genoa
• Despite the distances, Air Force fighters numbering roughly 2000 total are trying to achieve TOTAL air superiority
• Ground forces deployed to NG currently include Medical, Communications and Engineers, no combat troops yet
• However, if there is a landing, Air Force personnel are told to smash the landings, or just cripple the ground forces, no matter the costs.....

IC:

Vice President "Sneezy" Aireserkeiel grabbed for the sick bag once more, but didn't have to use it. The E-4 NEACP aircraft were built for function, not comfort and it seemed most everyone else was too focused on their duties to be airsick. All ten of the Republic of Adejaani's NEACP aircraft were airborne and while this made for a few difficulties, namely that to ensure some sort of survival and continuity, everyone was spread out on different aircraft.

"Currently" Doctor Bunker, Secretary of Defense was saying, his voice issuing from the TV monitor "New Genoa and Our Good Friends (allies) are blasting away at the Melkor/ADK Fleets. As for our response, we've deployed our Fleet from the northeast. The rest of the Fleet is off in Pantera still, while that's still being sorted, but they're coming back from two wars back to back, so I wouldn't count on them being combat effective for a while."

Bunker's aircraft must have hit a bout of turbulence, because he grabbed onto the table and his water glass smashed on the floor after it slid off. Aireserkeiel recovered slightly enough to ask "What about our response and actual fighting?"

Despite her role of Vice President, most everyone called Aireserkeiel "Sneezy". The most common story was that when asked to pronounce her surname, people within earshot would say "Bless you". Hence, "Sneezy".

"Well, Sneezy, we've got a much smaller military than most nations of our size, so we're going to try and backfill support roles. Our main plan is defensive. Protecting New Genoa. We'll blast the invasion back from their shores and if worse comes to worse, deploy to dig New Genoa out again. We've accordingly got about three hundred Super Intruders with lots of cluster munitions to drop all over the land invasion, in addition to our various bombers and other fighters. They've been told to press their attacks regardless of loss. This, combined with the attacks on the enemy Fleets, should at least fight the war to a stalemate. Our biggest advantage is our closeness, it takes roughly four hours by air to get to New Genoa, so as long as we keep tankers in the air, our Air Force can remain at home and continue striking."
Melkor Unchained
17-09-2003, 00:57
I'm done with this. I've had enough. I wasn't here most of the day yesterday and I come back to the thread to people bitching at me for supposedly 'ignoring their attacks.'

Atlantian Outcasts: you're the worst one. You post "I attack with all of my fighters," and when I ask you to tell me how many fighters this is, you accuse me of ignoring the attack [and, ironically enough, fail to post the freaking numbers.] I can't respond accurately to an attack until I know what I'm up against, now can I?

And Pilot: your compassion is touching. Perhaps, one day you too will have a 9mm shoved in your face, and you'll come to the forums to people bitching at you for "ignoring" attacks, when in reality, you just weren't around. Maybe then you'll know how I feel. I was disappointed with your latest response, because up until that point I had been impressed with your RP ability.

I told you all in my last post that responses were forthcoming, and you considerate folks just kept on bitching. Did it ever occur to you that when dealing with upwards of 10 attacks, that it might take a while to write the post?

As such, Pilot and AO will continue to be ignored by me for the remainder of their existance on NS. New Genoa, I really enjoyed RPing with you, but your buddies are just too much. I'm not saying its unreasonable to ask for losses, but for the love of god, if I'm not at the computer, I can't post them. Just because I'm out doing something else doesn't mean anyone's been ignored. It just means I'm doing something else.

The war's retconned.

Bye.
imported_Pantera
17-09-2003, 01:02
*snickers* While I see everyones point of view, I myself am squeeky clean and badass, so I don't really care. Kinda bums me out that the RP was ruined, but that's the breaks.

Everyone go dip into some snatch and buy a bottle of bourbon. Come back in a few days and we'll all have a hug and a bonghit.
New Genoa
17-09-2003, 01:05
Melkor, I'll TG you later, and we can try to sort this all out. I had a feeling this war would crap out sooner or later, and there was a lot of excellent RP too.

I hope things in RL get sorted out and that we meet again.

*cue Stars War music*
Liberty Fighters
17-09-2003, 01:06
OOC: okay everyone take a death breath. okay, Melko, ive been in your shoes, cops are assholes sometimes, i understand why you are pissed/stressed etc. AO and Pilot Didnt meant obe like "come on your so fucking slow" i think they were more wondering if you noticed the posts, because as i have experienced, its a large task to follow these threads is it not? so i dont think any disrespect was meant fro meither side, but melkor i do advise pulling out before more allies enter the war, because if it DOES go on, more WILL thats a promise. #2 To AO and Pilot, ease up on him guys, i can see how frustraiting it is to not be recognized when attacking, and its granted, but im sure you understand somewhat why it took him so long, give him some time to get back into it and he will. to ALL of you, STOP the disrespect, especialy when its your first reaction, find out if its an issue worth being so mean about, like this is a prime case, i am100% positive if they knew what happened to melkor AO, and Pilot wouldnt have worded thier posts i nthe way they did, now come on guys, its a game, lets have fun(whoa! kindergarten teacher moment!)
New Empire
17-09-2003, 01:09
OOC-
*Sigh*
Hey, I enjoyed RPing this... And I didn't do any of the cr*p you mentioned. I only thought you were ignoring me when you posted multiple times after my attack, even quoting it, and not acknowledging that. But I can understand if you have RL problems. Some people here need to cool down... I'm kinda depressed, 'cause this was my first important war RP, and I wanted to show I had some RP substance. But, stuff got in the way, and now we're here. This war has already led to two people just leaving. (AO and Imitora) Just chill out, maybe do some smaller RPs, but don't leave these angry posts or anything (This is mostly directed to AO).

Well, if anyone plans on putting this back together again later, count me in.
Adejaani
17-09-2003, 01:12
OOC: I agree, come on! Heck, I was asleep and I only just came on to post. Give the guy a break, we don't live in NS, after all!
Vrak
17-09-2003, 01:15
OOC:

I was pulled over by some cops once before. Three of them; one barking out of the bullhorn, one with the big doggie on a leash, and the third with the old shotgun. Got handcuffed and the dog snooped around my car. Basically it was a case of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. They told me that about a block away some taxi driver was robbed and they thought I was him. Ah well. Looking back, I wished I could have been more relaxed about the whole incident but at the time I was a bit tired, cold, and cranky. Cops have a shat job and that's a fact.
Liberty Fighters
17-09-2003, 01:16
OOC: could some1 give me the southport link?
Scandavian States
17-09-2003, 01:17
OOC: Melkor, if you have such a big social life then maybe you shouldn't start things like this as you obviously don't have the time to follow through. In case you haven't figured it out, not very many people like you (IC, I can't speak for OOC) and as such are likely to jump on you any time you start a war.
Melkor Unchained
17-09-2003, 01:19
OOC: Melkor, if you have such a big social life then maybe you shouldn't start things like this as you obviously don't have the time to follow through. In case you haven't figured it out, not very many people like you (IC, I can't speak for OOC) and as such are likely to jump on you any time you start a war.

[ooc: well, it wasnt so much the social life that got in the way as it was the fact that I had to work, and spend 2 hours in the back of a fugging squad car. Shit, if they ran me in, God only knows what the hell you'd all be saying.]
Liberty Fighters
17-09-2003, 01:20
come on ease up on him
Liberty Fighters
17-09-2003, 01:20
come on ease up on him
17-09-2003, 01:22
OOC: Another RP, spoiled by OOC bitching. Get off Melkor's ass! Damn, now I am doing it.
New Empire
17-09-2003, 01:22
OOC-Yeah, SS, I dunno about you, but do you think Melkor can just say "Logging off for a bit, gonna go get arrested"? You can't predict things like that.
Adejaani
17-09-2003, 01:34
OOC: As promised over the IRC chat..... *Bitch slaps EVERYONE*

No, I'm sorry, I'm taking Melk's side. RP is about being "gentlemenly" (sorry, ladies, but that's the term). You know, striding onto the field of battle, waving your arms and deploying your various forces to do combat?

Does ANYONE remember that while this is mock that we must also remember to PLAY NICE? For crying out loud, we're all only human. We need to eat, sleep, breath and LIVE OUR LIVES. I hear all these stories of people "Oh, crap, I gotta go, I've got class/work now".

Well excuse me, ladies and gentlemen! The world does NOT revolve around you! You enter an RP and participate in it when you can, not when the other person wants. You do it willingly. For fun. Remember why we RP? For fun???

All indications are this invasion is restarting and I DO NOT want to see ANYONE being rude about it! If we can slap the n00bs and Godmods and say that they're not RPing properly, well then what do we call THIS sorry ass performance?!

You will post exactly what happens. You will wait, even for a day or two or a WEEK and you will politely ask "Hey, haven't forgotten about it, have you?" but you will NOT go bitching, you will NOT be whiney and you will NOT ruin the RP!
17-09-2003, 01:39
{Long Lecture}

*Looks around meekly and in a passive voice, appologizes for butting in*
imported_Sentient Peoples
17-09-2003, 01:42
OKay, first of all. This was absurd.

We seem to have a communication problem in this thread.

1. How long does it take you to write a post? Ten minutes? Twenty?

2. How much time do you spend on NS per day? A few hours?

3. Now Assume Melkor does the same. Except his post has to respond to all ten of your posts, and right his own attack at the same time. Okay - that's easily and hour and a half of work.

4. If someone want's clarifcation of something, give it to them, don't complain.

5. Melkor has a lot of shit going on in his life right now, even without the police. Lay off him. If you think he should start a thread when there is shit in his life, fine. But DON't blame him. NS is a release from the real world for a lot of people, so back off. Don't give them the same shit here that they come here to escape from.

6. Be considerate. If someone asks for more time, give it to them, and don't bitch about how long they are taking.

Thank you for your time.
Edolia
17-09-2003, 02:09
I would have to say that I sympathize with Melkor right now. Though it does annoy me to have to wait around for a long time for a response to my attacks, I understand where he's coming from. Hell, it frequently takes me a while to respond too. Shit happens, y'know? I really liked this little war and I would like to see if we can revisit it again. I'm going to send a telegram to Melkor with a few suggestions. Perhaps an invite-only RP with the "invite-only" rule actually enforced. With the map of New Genoa and more detailed list of military forces and attacks, this could be a very interesting fight.
Vrak
17-09-2003, 02:15
OOC:

I should mention that my last post (being stopped by the police) was in no way intended to belittle Melkor's latest fun with the cops, but merely to illustrate that sometimes folks do have rotten days.


You will post exactly what happens. You will wait, even for a day or two or a WEEK and you will politely ask "Hey, haven't forgotten about it, have you?" but you will NOT go bitching, you will NOT be whiney and you will NOT ruin the RP!

Good advice, but if I may humbly suggest, it would be courteous on the person receiving the said "Hey are you there" messages to politely respond, "Sorry. Been busy. Will try to respond in XX days." Otherwise a person might conclude that they are being ignored. It's a fine line but I think both sides need to be nice to eachother.

I suggest the following:

The person sending the telegram should be mindful that the recepient might indeed be busy, the t-gram box fills up, etc... and not demand responses "immediately".

The recepient should respond back with a courteous note explaining why they couldn't answer and give some idea of when they can post on the thread. Something like "Sorry. Busy with XYZ. I'll try to post (time frame)."

Face it, some players here on NS are just more active because they are vets. Arrangements should be made to contact eachother via alternative routes (Aim, ICQ, email, etc...) Lord knows I've given out my email address several times during the World court threads in order to facilitate better communication. I usually hesistate to to that, but I don't mind giving it out privately. Saves time and also the NS telegram box does fill up rapidly. I don't know if the mods have bigger boxes (I would imagine so) but their boxes must be cluttered like crazy. I'm not including the forum boxes on the php board BTW.

In closing, I'd just like to say that it's easy for all of us to forget that there is a human (well, in most cases :) ) sitting behing the computer. Now let's all sing Kumbaya!
Vrak
17-09-2003, 02:15
OOC:

I should mention that my last post (being stopped by the police) was in no way intended to belittle Melkor's latest fun with the cops, but merely to illustrate that sometimes folks do have rotten days.


You will post exactly what happens. You will wait, even for a day or two or a WEEK and you will politely ask "Hey, haven't forgotten about it, have you?" but you will NOT go bitching, you will NOT be whiney and you will NOT ruin the RP!

Good advice, but if I may humbly suggest, it would be courteous on the person receiving the said "Hey are you there" messages to politely respond, "Sorry. Been busy. Will try to respond in XX days." Otherwise a person might conclude that they are being ignored. It's a fine line but I think both sides need to be nice to eachother.

I suggest the following:

The person sending the telegram should be mindful that the recipient might indeed be busy, the t-gram box fills up, etc... and not demand responses "immediately".

The recipient should respond back with a courteous note explaining why they couldn't answer and give some idea of when they can post on the thread. Something like "Sorry. Busy with XYZ. I'll try to post (time frame)."

Face it, some players here on NS are just more active because they are vets. Arrangements should be made to contact eachother via alternative routes (Aim, ICQ, email, etc...) Lord knows I've given out my email address several times during the World court threads in order to facilitate better communication. I usually hesitate to to that, but I don't mind giving it out privately. Saves time and also the NS telegram box does fill up rapidly. I don't know if the mods have bigger boxes (I would imagine so) but their boxes must be cluttered like crazy. I'm not including the forum boxes on the php board BTW.

In closing, I'd just like to say that it's easy for all of us to forget that there is a human (well, in most cases :) ) sitting behing the computer. Now let's all sing Kumbaya!
Western Might
17-09-2003, 02:21
I would have to say that I sympathize with Melkor right now. Though it does annoy me to have to wait around for a long time for a response to my attacks, I understand where he's coming from. Hell, it frequently takes me a while to respond too. Shit happens, y'know? I really liked this little war and I would like to see if we can revisit it again. I'm going to send a telegram to Melkor with a few suggestions. Perhaps an invite-only RP with the "invite-only" rule actually enforced. With the map of New Genoa and more detailed list of military forces and attacks, this could be a very interesting fight.

I recall we did that in a past war.
Pilot
17-09-2003, 02:51
< OOC: With all that's been said, I have to extend and apoligy to Melkor. I can basically co-enside with Edolia's statement. Sorry. >
Abu-Dhabi Khristatata
17-09-2003, 02:51
*wades through the discussion and keeps the RP up...*

Question, what kind of tracking do those missiles use?



Yeah... people have lives outside of NS.... Did you not notice?

*shuts up*
Adejaani
17-09-2003, 02:58
*wades through the discussion and keeps the RP up...*

Question, what kind of tracking do those missiles use?



Yeah... people have lives outside of NS.... Did you not notice?

*shuts up*

OOC: Whose missiles? :roll:
Abu-Dhabi Khristatata
17-09-2003, 03:05
*wades through the discussion and keeps the RP up...*

Question, what kind of tracking do those missiles use?



Yeah... people have lives outside of NS.... Did you not notice?

*shuts up*

OOC: Whose missiles? :roll:

Grunge-France :P
17-09-2003, 16:14
Shit. Seriously, do we HAVE to retcon the war?

I get the feeling that if we organised our stuff a little & started up RPing again, this problem wouldn't present itself again.

Christ, & I hadn't even made my entrance, yet...
The Territory
17-09-2003, 16:34
From above, flocks of microdrones deploy. Briefly, their patterns point to http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1564059#1564059 .
Scandavian States
17-09-2003, 17:21
OOC: Hey, why's everyone jumping on me all of the sudden? I really do understand that he has a social life and that shit happens, it just seems like that every time that a bunch of attacks happen at once he's out of the house. It's kinda incovenient for both sides, don't you think? Hell, I can understand why he's stressed and I'd be pissed too if someone kept telling me over and over to respond to an attack. Here's my suggestion for Melkor: every time you think there's a possibility of you being away for a while then just type in an OOC message that says "away from keyboard" so that everyone knows not to attack and when you get back just let everyone know it's okay to post attacks against you.

PS- *raises drink* Here's one to not getting you head blown off ;)
imported_Sentient Peoples
17-09-2003, 17:32
OOC: Hey, why's everyone jumping on me all of the sudden? I really do understand that he has a social life and that shit happens, it just seems like that every time that a bunch of attacks happen at once he's out of the house. It's kinda incovenient for both sides, don't you think? Hell, I can understand why he's stressed and I'd be pissed too if someone kept telling me over and over to respond to an attack. Here's my suggestion for Melkor: every time you think there's a possibility of you being away for a while then just type in an OOC message that says "away from keyboard" so that everyone knows not to attack and when you get back just let everyone know it's okay to post attacks against you.

PS- *raises drink* Here's one to not getting you head blown off ;)

This has to be the most horrible idea I've ever heard regarding NS. What do you think this is, an IRC Chat? Get real.

If that's what you want to do, on the main forum screen, look down at the bottom. If the person you are attacking's name appears down there, post, otherwise don't. Then, don't post again until that post has been resolved.
Scandavian States
17-09-2003, 18:02
OOC: Hey, why's everyone jumping on me all of the sudden? I really do understand that he has a social life and that shit happens, it just seems like that every time that a bunch of attacks happen at once he's out of the house. It's kinda incovenient for both sides, don't you think? Hell, I can understand why he's stressed and I'd be pissed too if someone kept telling me over and over to respond to an attack. Here's my suggestion for Melkor: every time you think there's a possibility of you being away for a while then just type in an OOC message that says "away from keyboard" so that everyone knows not to attack and when you get back just let everyone know it's okay to post attacks against you.

PS- *raises drink* Here's one to not getting you head blown off ;)

This has to be the most horrible idea I've ever heard regarding NS. What do you think this is, an IRC Chat? Get real.

If that's what you want to do, on the main forum screen, look down at the bottom. If the person you are attacking's name appears down there, post, otherwise don't. Then, don't post again until that post has been resolved.

Actually, I don't use IRC because of all those little kids who type in l33t, the idea came from the fact that that's what you do when you play games online. If you've got a better idea, then please post it, all I was trying to do was help Melkor.
imported_Sentient Peoples
17-09-2003, 18:06
People who type in 1337 (except as jokes and where appropriate) on the NS IRC are booted.
Western Might
17-09-2003, 18:16
ooc come on were did everyone go? I want to blow someone up.
Pilot
17-09-2003, 20:30
As such, Pilot and AO will continue to be ignored by me for the remainder of their existance on NS. New Genoa, I really enjoyed RPing with you, but your buddies are just too much. I'm not saying its unreasonable to ask for losses, but for the love of god, if I'm not at the computer, I can't post them. Just because I'm out doing something else doesn't mean anyone's been ignored. It just means I'm doing something else.

Good. I'm glad mods like to break the rules.
Rukemia
17-09-2003, 21:31
OOC: I know its been a long time since my fleet was attacked and I was just about to post casualties and a response, but after browsing throught his thread I can't help but think that this RP is over. Is it?
imported_Grunge-France
18-09-2003, 00:00
OOC.: I was really making a whole economic-military strategy to face the war, and now I find this?
I insisted and I told you to understand that Melkor has a life, and that if he had not posted any answer was because he was busy with his life, the man has no obligation to post, and he, as everyone in here, will post whenever we feel like do it.

But, I also think Melkor should have posted after having had such a terrible experience with the polices, I´m not telling that he has no right to be angry, I say that he shouldn´t have psoted in a moment he was emotionally/psihcologically affected by the incident... people were bitching about wanting him to post, but I´m 100% sure that if Melkor had answered when he was calmed and when he had the time to do so, we would still be RP this war.

In the same way I say if people hadn´t been bitching about him posting here, we would still be able to RP here.

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That was an OOC statement, if anyone has an opinion on it, remember, it was an OOC statement, no need to ignore anyone.

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Now, IC, I´ll consider it a ceasefire.
imported_Grunge-France
18-09-2003, 00:38
IC:

All my forces are withdrawing from the war zones, all forces and Armadas are returning to Grunge-France.

OOC.:
I just lost my faith in humanity (actually, I only lost my faith in this conflict, I really wanted something big :( )
Abu-Dhabi Khristatata
18-09-2003, 02:49
OOC: So I take it, no causilities on my fleets?
New Genoa
18-09-2003, 02:52
The war never happened. It was retconned. :?

So everyone is freaking happy now.
18-09-2003, 07:36
The war never happened. It was retconned. :?

So everyone is freaking happy now.

I'm not. :( :x
18-09-2003, 09:42
This war is stopped and rewound nothing hapened.......ok well now Vegana is annexing me so this should be fun.
Gerania
19-09-2003, 04:33
As the war seems to be over, Geranian forces will leave the New Genoan soil and will return to their homeland tommorow morning (RT).
New Genoa
19-09-2003, 11:36
The war never happened. It was retconned. :?

So everyone is freaking happy now.

I'm not. :( :xOnly ICly.