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>>the scene: a massive hanger outside the main Gilgmesh consortium offices<<

Representatives of the 4 Manufacturing nations and the varous investor nations wait patiently and perk up in suprise as the hanger suddenly darkens,

"Ladies and Gentlemen," begins the anouncer as "Emerald Sword" by Rhapsody begin's playing over the PA system, "Let me introduce to you the future in armored warfare..."

Suddenly the Doors at the far end of the Hanger burst open and a flood of light blazes in revealing a large siloette that silently begins to rool forward into the hanger

"The one, the only, Joint Replacement Heavy Combat Vehcile, the T-7... GILGAMESH!!!!" at this shout the lights in the hanger go up revealing the massive yet sleek form of the T-7 Gilgamesh (export).

"latter today there will be a series of live fire demostration to disply the true might and capabilities of the Gilgamesh".


http://www.meatballs.terminator.org.uk/crookfur/images/T7gilgamesh.jpg

T-7 Gilgamesh

Heavy Main Battle Tank

Designed by: Fisaw (Industrized Serfs), Crookfur, Aresmat (Hole Where Evil Lives), and Newer England

Produced by: Fisaw (Industrized LSerfs) and ETC Ammunition by Aresmat (Hole Where Evil Lives)

Weight: 70,600kg (155,320lbs.)

Crew: 2 (in front hull)

Performance: Speed: 70km/h, Range: 450km (60km on Hybrid Electric), Vertical Obstacle: 2.4m, Fording: 3.3m, Trench 4.1m.

Armor: Advanced coposite armor incorperating Chobham, Titanium Alloys, high strength ceramics, Tungsten and spacing, exact details are availble on request but effectiveness is rated at being closs (or greater than) 1500mm RHA.

Power systems: CFPW T451 Alcohol turbine with hybrid electric drive for silent running and low heat (for operations requiring more stealth or involving infantry), emergency and maintenance power.

Armament systems: Electro Thermal Chemical 155mm main gun at least 55 calibres long capable of launching most any rounds including HEAT, Sabots, Top Attacks, Missiles, and even canisters. Also a copper round developed by fisaw. Export version using a 25mm machine gun/grenade launcher on remotely operated mount. Missiles (2 SAMs for anti chopper and possible anti round and 2 recon vehicles likely remotely operated) which aren't fired by the main gun. Also a anti-infantry variant of explosive launcher.

Ammunition: 30 Main gun, 800 25mm MG and 800 GL

Rate of Fire: Main gun: 9rpm, MG/GL 350-600rpm (or semi auto).

Intelligence Systems: Radar/laser/microwave threat warning receivers with rapid resolution of incoming fire sources, fire detection radar and suppression system, a wide variety of views with a horizon view and IR/UV/Night vision views. As well as targeting views and emergency periscope views. Laser rangefinder and designator, target acquisition system (roughly 90% accurate), remote sensor coordination (2 remotely operated recon missiles).

Counter systems: Sensors for immediate detection of hits which aim all detectors, designators and weapons at the target which if isn't found is then scanned for. Also launches a recon missile in the general direction. If the targets found then triangulation (with lasers from the recon and tank) is used to quickly get a designator on the target. Works most effectively against direct fire but if not immediately producing a target it should eventually be found.
Jammers, active counter laser, dense particulate smoke rounds and discharger, anti-missile system using ball bearing packed explosives launched at direction of incoming threat from mount on turret, an anti-mine system also using the same ball bearing packed explosive system but located at the front of the hull and using a powerful detection system, anti-magnetic mine paint, multiple drone launch capability.

Survivability systems: NBC protection, unitary armored pod inside the crew’s section of the hull, blow away sections for ammo cases (which are mounted on the sides) that release pressure on ammo incase they blow up and if they do they explode upwards away from crew and engine. The same goes for our missile systems mounted slightly to the rear of the turret. Retractable (and detachable) armored skirts.

Tank systems: Computerized hydropneumatic 'dynamic' suspension, rail system to roll out engine for maintenance, cool air jets run into exhaust stream with a combination of air and liquid (water left and stored from alcohol engine) coolant, advanced fire control computer, fully stabilized gun mountings.


As for the price i belive we are looking at soemthing in the range of $8.5million or so


production licenses

Production licenses for the Gilgamesh work slightly differently compared to most licensing schemes.

First you have to establish how many you wish to produce (feel free to grossly over estiamte that).
Then your License application has to be aproved by 2 members of the design consortium.
One that has happened you are free to produce as many as you want upto the number you stated earlier.
No formal paymnet is established it is assumed that we make money of a small royalty on each tank your produce (works for us as we make very little in the way of capitol investment as you have to biuld your own factories).

never mind, now its twice as strong as abrams :roll:

Eh no thats the actual size but has effectiveness far beyond that.

its bloddy difficult to find the actual thicknesses of modern tank armor only the effective thickness in terms of RHA against certain weapons. the only semi modern one i could find was the cheiftan that had 300mm

The Batavian Soviet Socialist Republic orders 12 of your mighty battletanks

BatavianSSR: Your order is confirmed expect delivery by tomorrow (RL).

LowGap would like to make a awsume purchase...

40 T-7 Gilgamesh


The funds are being wired

Can we have 10 to cmpare to our cheaper upgraded Beowolf?

The design of the Gilgamesh took aproxamately 2 months (real time!). It is amazing at how excellent systems we were able to produce over this time. It is an excellent tank which I am happy to finally see reach the market.
-Aresmat

LowGap: your order is confirmed, expect delivery within 1-2RL days


Freedom Country: Certainly expect delivery within 1-2RL days.(i'm not sure if i told you about this when i designed your rnage of vehicles, i'm sorry if i didn't).

Bump

updated armor and price.

During testing a Gilgamesh accicentialy BUMPED into a biulding knocking it to the ground.

Know what?


ill but 2500.


Money will be wired upon confirmation.

$21.25 billion. Assuming you meant buy. Thank you for your order.

Confirmed.

Yes, I did :oops:


Money wired. These can escort my tanks into battle until my own tank-destroyer-beasty gets developed.

Meh. Its your strategy.

You say support I say en masse.

500 will be for an assault unit.

T-7 Gilgamesh =10

We'll take two for evaluation pending a possible order. Of course Mikulin Design Bureau OKB also has a design being developed for a similar vehicle. Perhaps a production licence deal could be arranged?

We'll take 30, for evaluation puproses.

Hugo lai: Thank you for your order, that will come to $85million expect delivery in 3Rl days (DT's order has created soemwhat of a back log).

Soviet Haaregrad: The 2 evaluation vehciles are ready for you and await your paymnet of $17mil, a license might be aavailble i'll need to discuss with the others if we agree to one then you will be refunded for your evaluation vehciles.

Omz222: order confirmed, that comes to $255million. the shipment will be with you in 3 RL days.

Bloody good tank....

I am afraid my MBT that you designed is becoming out of date, and needs replaced.

We will keep it in service for another RL week, then replace it.

FC: sorry about that i actually need to go over the beowulf's specs a little (mainly the armor to bring it somewhere into line with reality).

Of course it still makes a nice export option.

Yeh

We plan to use a combination of the low profile of the T90/T80, the cannon off a Leopard, adn some free ramblings of our own

Which leopard cannon? the existing one? or the 2 next gen options (140mm conventional or 120mm ETC).

Ok, it is developed.

I have made the pic, but cant upload it cos I amnt on my home PC, but rather a scrappy Win95 which cant do JPG uploads.

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i would like to order 50 tanks

money wired on confrimation

Oreder confirmed, expect delivery within 2 Rl days.

Thank you, money wired.

I'll take 100
*money wired*

i will take 200

*money wired*

Confirmed thank you for your purchases.

Oh i'm sorry did i BUMP this to the top?

I'll take 900 of your mighty battle tanks. That comes to 7.65 billion I believe money wired upon conformation.

Confirmed. Thank you for your purchase on the mighty T-7 Gilgamesh.

T-7 Gilgamesh

Heavy Main Battle Tank

Designed by: Fisaw (Industrized Serfs), Crookfur, Aresmat (Hole Where Evil Lives), and Newer England

Produced by: Fisaw (Industrized LSerfs) and ETC Ammunition by Aresmat (Hole Where Evil Lives)

Weight: 70,600kg (155,320lbs.)

Crew: 2 (in front hull)

Performance: Speed: 70km/h, Range: 450km (60km on Hybrid Electric), Vertical Obstacle: 2.4m, Fording: 3.3m, Trench 4.1m.

Armor: Advanced coposite armor incorperating Chobham, Titanium Alloys, high strength ceramics, Tungsten and spacing, exact details are availble on request but effectiveness is rated at being closs (or greater than) 1500mm RHA.

Power systems: CFPW T451 Alcohol turbine with hybrid electric drive for silent running and low heat (for operations requiring more stealth or involving infantry), emergency and maintenance power.

Armament systems: Electro Thermal Chemical 155mm main gun at least 55 calibres long capable of launching most any rounds including HEAT, Sabots, Top Attacks, Missiles, and even canisters. Also a copper round developed by fisaw. Export version using a 25mm machine gun/grenade launcher on remotely operated mount. Missiles (2 SAMs for anti chopper and possible anti round and 2 recon vehicles likely remotely operated) which aren't fired by the main gun. Also a anti-infantry variant of explosive launcher.

Ammunition: 30 Main gun, 800 25mm MG and 800 GL

Rate of Fire: Main gun: 9rpm, MG/GL 350-600rpm (or semi auto).

Intelligence Systems: Radar/laser/microwave threat warning receivers with rapid resolution of incoming fire sources, fire detection radar and suppression system, a wide variety of views with a horizon view and IR/UV/Night vision views. As well as targeting views and emergency periscope views. Laser rangefinder and designator, target acquisition system (roughly 90% accurate), remote sensor coordination (2 remotely operated recon missiles).

Counter systems: Sensors for immediate detection of hits which aim all detectors, designators and weapons at the target which if isn't found is then scanned for. Also launches a recon missile in the general direction. If the targets found then triangulation (with lasers from the recon and tank) is used to quickly get a designator on the target. Works most effectively against direct fire but if not immediately producing a target it should eventually be found.
Jammers, active counter laser, dense particulate smoke rounds and discharger, anti-missile system using ball bearing packed explosives launched at direction of incoming threat from mount on turret, an anti-mine system also using the same ball bearing packed explosive system but located at the front of the hull and using a powerful detection system, anti-magnetic mine paint, multiple drone launch capability.

Survivability systems: NBC protection, unitary armored pod inside the crew’s section of the hull, blow away sections for ammo cases (which are mounted on the sides) that release pressure on ammo incase they blow up and if they do they explode upwards away from crew and engine. The same goes for our missile systems mounted slightly to the rear of the turret. Retractable (and detachable) armored skirts.

Tank systems: Computerized hydropneumatic 'dynamic' suspension, rail system to roll out engine for maintenance, cool air jets run into exhaust stream with a combination of air and liquid (water left and stored from alcohol engine) coolant, advanced fire control computer, fully stabilized gun mountings.


As for the price i belive we are looking at soemthing in the range of $8.5million
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Thought I should post her specs on this page too. Now that you've seen it you can't deny that you should buy a few divisions' worth right now.

Have you seen the might of the T-7 Gilgamesh (bump)?

Hey, I'm assuming the T-7 is modern(ish) tech? And what exactly is an ETC gun?

At any rate, it looks fabulous (we've got a fantastic history with Crookfur products), and we'd like to place an order for 2,500. I believe the total is roughly $21.25 billion. Understandably, it could take some time to fill, but we don't need it immediately.

i'll take 50 for testing

My tac guys have determined that the heavy MBT is obsolete (in NS). Main guns are so powerful they will punch through any armor. Thus we have developed a much smaller, lighter, and faster MBT.

Hey, I'm assuming the T-7 is modern(ish) tech? And what exactly is an ETC gun?

At any rate, it looks fabulous (we've got a fantastic history with Crookfur products), and we'd like to place an order for 2,500. I believe the total is roughly $21.25 billion. Understandably, it could take some time to fill, but we don't need it immediately.

You assumed right. ETC is electro-thermal chemical. Its a chemical reaction (as opposed the the usual solid propellent) which fires an electric current into the chemicals to fire it. There are more details but it took me a long time to figure it out and I always think its better if people figure things out for themselves (I'm too lazy). This is an excellent tank and you won't be let down. We the designers have built one of the best tanks I've ever seen on NS (the best in my oppinion). It was excellent working with Crookfur and we took our time to research all the systems making the tank absolutely awesome. Both orders are confirmed (I believe we've already sent out a few for testing so I guess that's alright.

"Yes, it sure does look like a good tank. We would like to order 5,000 tanks, and possibly more later, if we do not get more good offers."
- Minister of Many Things

Thank you for your massive purchase. You will have a special place in my heart (my tiny black heart).

Order confirmed.

:!:

Nice...

:!: Yes very nice.

Thank you.

:!: Nice. Nice.

Look at its specs! Buy it now!

I want 500

* Money Wired Upon Confirmation *

Order confirmed, expect delivry within 1 Rl day

500 for me please and for production rights I'll throw in another 100 million.

~Money Wired~

Nice tank.

I would buy more, but it lacks anti infantary.

I would agree to production rights if the other designers are okay with it. It should be time by now. Lets get this straight though. No export of tanks you build. They are for your country only! Next you must not exceed the stated amount whatsoever in production. If Crookfur agrees and we don't get any immediate complaints from NE and IS then you should get the rights.

FC I'll tear into your comment in a second. As one of the designers I feel it is my duty to defend this tank against those who would point out flaws (which don't exist!). Please don't take any offense.

We designed this beast with no weaknesses. Here are the specs you overlooked:

25mm MG/GL. Auto high calibre machine gun fire to suppress infantry positions. Upon receiving data of enemy infantry in range (whether by enemy fire, sending out recons, or your own intel from different systems you may have) the 25mm cannon can be used to suppress infantry from long range (with a massive fear factor) and then targeted and eliminated either by this weapon or by an extension of the main gun's usefulness with missile rounds capable of destroying masses of infantry wetting their pants. A 25mm MG also means that only a handful of APC's will survive just a burst of fire. Now why would we place a GL on this weapon? Purely for anti-infantry! For hitting targets out of line of site with air burst, eliminating clots of infantrymen and so on. The 25mm also works well against low flying aircraft and choppers. Now any infantry (enemy or friend) is not going to want to get near a tank with a turbine. You will boil if you get to close. Note that we have included alternate hybrid electric drive for infantry operations (like I said; no weaknesses). If you do happen to come within range (say when the tank is using its Hybrid Electric Drive) there is a rather nasty anti infantry device on the turret which launches explosives with ball bearings at enemy infantry wandering into the no walk zone. This device is also used to fire an explosive (with ball bearings) at enemy fire (from RPGs and the like) which should blow it away. With a crew of two there are only so many weapons one can look after and still be effective with. There is no wasting money on GPMGs which are completely redundant on this tank. We've included several systems of anti-infantry all of which can be controlled by the two crew members effectively. Many systems are automated. Now you can see that we designed this tank with every detail in mind and that it was designed to have no weaknesses!

Buy the T-7 Gilgamesh!

OOC: That was three "no weaknesses". Pretty big claim for a vehicle that going by the illustration doesn't have a turret. 8)

Now, what's the traverse of the main gun again?

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OOC: That was three "no weaknesses". Pretty big claim for a vehicle that going by the illustration doesn't have a turret. 8)

Now, what's the traverse of the main gun again?


it does have turret, look a tthe picture more closely *jedi mind trick* (ok updated pic to make things far clearer).


Rukemia: i have no objects consider the request aproved.

The mangos: order confirmed expect delivery soon

The Armed Republic of Great Mateo will purchase 800 of these tanks at a price of $6.8 billion. We also wish to purchase manufacturing rights, if possible.

The Armed Republic of Great Mateo will purchase 800 of these tanks at a price of $6.8 billion. We also wish to purchase manufacturing rights, if possible.


Your order is confrimed expect delivery within 2 RL days.

As to the rights i'll need to confer with my partners on that.

OOC: That was three "no weaknesses". Pretty big claim for a vehicle that going by the illustration doesn't have a turret. 8)

Now, what's the traverse of the main gun again?

Three "no weaknesses". Confusing but true. No turret? That was one of the most poor weaknesses you could accuse my tank of. We would never leave out that important a detail. It may appear not to since we designed it to have a very low profile and incredibly sloped armor. There's as little space as posible between hull and turret (lesser chance of turret ring shots, aka: the only automatic kills to M1s).

Ill take 4,000 more, money wired. Brings my tank strength to an even 60,000.

IC: And we'll take 5,000 more Gilgameshes. Funds wired.

OOC: Hmm, 60,000 tanks? Wow, that's alot. Three times as much as I have, or something like that :P

IC: And we'll take 5,000 more Gilgameshes. Funds wired.

OOC: Hmm, 60,000 tanks? Wow, that's alot. Three times as much as I have, or something like that :P
OOC:
Its actually more
30,000 T-80UM5
20,000 T-96U
6,500 Gilgamesh (once this is confirmed)
4,000 FT-4 Thorin (rapid deployment)
560 Sprut-SDM (amphibious+airdroppable)

10,000 of Gilgamesh, please.

Both orders confirmed, many thanks.


Oh and DT, nice to see you using another tank i designed (although i think you've upgraded them a bit since you bought them from FC).

Both orders confirmed, many thanks.


Oh and DT, nice to see you using another tank is design (although i think you've upgraded them a bit since you bought them from FC).
Money wired.

They only weigh 32 tons (rapid deployment), and I upgunned em to ETC 105mm gun, gave em the usual 12 Khrizantema-3 ATGM's, a new fire control system, and oh yeah Electric Effect Armor.

You know they already had the electric armor stuff (unless you are meaning soemthing rather different than the electrical reactive armor that the brits are just about reay to start feilding).

I had though about giving them ETCs but then again at the time i wasn't sure how FC would react to the concept so i stuck with conventional weapons.

Money wired

Yes, Im talking about the Brits EEA.
http://www.e4engineering.com/item.asp?id=45962&type=news

If they already did, then I just upgunned them.

Both orders confirmed, many thanks.


Oh and DT, nice to see you using another tank is design (although i think you've upgraded them a bit since you bought them from FC).
Money wired.

They only weigh 32 tons (rapid deployment), and I upgunned em to ETC 105mm gun, gave em the usual 12 Khrizantema-3 ATGM's, a new fire control system, and oh yeah Electric Effect Armor.

HEY

Exactly what I have done to my remaining FT-4's!!

ETC, ATGM pods, ERA....

Thank you for your many purchases all. EEA being developed is I believe currently only being applied to APCs but I should imagine it will be adapted for effective use on MBTs. I don't think that it is really so effective as to become as magical as Chobham (which isn't even all that magical being close to 30 years old already as I recently learned) or MEXAS. Crookfur I should ask you what you think of giving out production rights now to those who want them.

I wish for 10000. The 85 billion is being wired.

Confirmed. Thank you for this large order.

The Protectorate of Grotia would like to purchase 1000 Gilgameshes. Please ensure they are marked with the Grotian Martlet insignia. Also, 10000 rounds of every type of ordinance. Money wired (Gold American Dollars)

Ich Dien!

Blut Und Krieg
Minister of War
Protectorate of Grotia

Sure. Confirmed. Thank you.

Our tests has showed excellent performance of this tank.

We will purchase 800 units.

Omz222: order confirmed, many thanks

1500 of these

My Bureau of Defense wishes to purchase a full thousand of these handsome beasts, for a total of $8.5 billion.

Omz222: order confirmed, many thanks
Money wired, thank you.

Orders confirmed: Automastan and Land of Ages.

Note: the designers of the T-7 Gilgamesh will soon be positng a policy for aquiring production rights. Come again soon.

Policy for Production Rights:

Post your application for production rights. State the amount you wish to produce. The tanks produced are for your use only and may not (by any means) be sold to other nations. Your production is limited to the amount applied for and if you wish to produce more than the amount you specified that you wanted unless you apply again. You're applications must be appoved by one of the designers. You may produce them within one RL day after being aproved. During this period of 1 RL day your application may be revoked by any other member of the design team (which should not happen often).

Continue purchasing.

*applies for permission to build 5,000*

Approved by Aresmat of Hole Where Evil Lives. Within one RL day you may begin production. Check in tomorrow (RL) to make sure that your request has not been reconsidered and denied by another member of the team (doubtful but just a reminder in case).

160 Gilgamesh Tanks

*Money Wired*

Modernis Caesar
Emperor of Roma Imperius
http://civilization3.com/images/civ_08romans_caesar.gif

160 Gilgamesh Tanks

*Money Wired*

Orer accepted expect delivery shortly

The United Socialist States of Zvarinograd would like to purchase 1000 T-7 Gilgamesh tanks. A total of $8.5 billion has been wired.

OOC:
Population: 103,000,000
Civil Rights: Unheard Of
Economy: Strong
GDP per Capita: $12,500
GDP: $1,287,500,000,000
National Budget: $176,593,500,000
Percentage of GDP Spent on Defense: 2.74%
Percentage of Budget Spent on Defense: 20%
Military Budget: $35,318,700,000

Calculation's there to be sure, I've been busy on purchasing and maintaining.

Zvarinograd: your order has been accepted the tanks should be with you in about 1 RL day.

The Free Land of Lunoris would like to buy:

10 × Gilgamesh Tanks.

Money will be wired upon confirmation.

The Free Land of Lunoris would like to buy:

10 × Gilgamesh Tanks.

Money will be wired upon confirmation.


Order confirmed expect delivery shortly.

We in the Automite Army are quite happy with the Gilgameshes we purchased in the past, and would like 200 more, at a cost of $1.7 billion. The money has been wired.

Confirmed. Thank you for your purchase.

The free land of Lunoris is happy with the Giglamesh and asks for another 90. These will be bought with the water upgrade.

-Narack
Spokesmen of The Free Land of Lunoris

Lunoris: order confirmed.

OOC: water upgrade?

im interested... i think i may buy some

The nation of Misanthropic Hatred would like to buy 10,000...money will be wired under the condition that no investigation results as to the origin of the money.

The nation of Misanthropic Hatred would like to buy 10,000...money will be wired under the condition that no investigation results as to the origin of the money.


Not a chance. 10,000 of these would cost more than 7 times your entire nations economic output and it is simply impossible that you would even have enough vaguely qualified technicians to service more than a squadron of tanks of this level.

I hate to say it but i suggest you go and look for soemone selling cheap second hand centurions or T-55s.

Very well...but this will be remembered...

Fair enough but if you wait a few days so that you will longer be bankrupted by buying even a division of tanks i might have some interesting cheaper alternatives.

::bows head slightly:: agreed, I will wait

*tosses out 500 Olifant Mk2 tanks from his reserves*
Take em and be happy.

Also, Ill buy 500 more of these. Money wired.

I would like to purchase 1,000 T-7 Gilgamesh tanks. *A total of $8.5 billion has been wired*

General Tom Axe Sr.

Kurlej & Dark terror: orders confirmed, expect delivery within 2 Rl days.

Handschar requests 1 evaluation vehicle.

Handschar requests 1 evaluation vehicle.


The vehcile is being shipped as we speak.

ill take 10 to see how they operate and would like further specs on height, with etc.
The maintenace costs must be massive!!!!
(id like to know them too)
money wired. (please telegram specs if they are secret)
General of military research for hotdogs2.
*name is secret, it seems to me that hes a robot, but i dont know who he is*
earlier comments withdrawn
A Bloody good Tank!!!
(Make that 10,000 Tanks)

I might be slightly taller than a Abrams but not that much, after all the turret houses nothing bar the gun and the seoncdary weapons systems height would be msot likely in the 3-3.5m rnage, also being slightly taller means it can see further too...

Most likely 2010-2015 at the latest, 120mm and 140mm ETC guns have been test fired in RL and are just waiting funding for tank deployments (this also gos for smaller guns, a full 30mm ETC setup for the bradley has been planned and is awaiting funding) and light weight 155mm guns have been proven (mainly from the naval AGS and the crusader) so ours is merely a logical step, all the other systems are perfectly feasable now.

The gun adds msot of the weight as good though the armor is it is actually lighter than an M1s for better protection i persoanlly would have put it closer to 80tons but thats just me.

No antigrav.

Well considering that the entire tank is designed to be easy to maintain this isn't much of a difficulty, as with other modern tanks the principle mechanical systems (gun, mount, engine/drive system and the suspension) are such that even with a 4 man crew fixing problems would be dificult, but there is that wonderful tool of a computer diagnositc system and all the major components are fairly modular. Maintainace is no more difficult than on a modern tank.

nope no godmodding, the fact of the matter is that if NATO in it's entirity had the will and each government the funds then this could be easily biult, it would be very very expensive (the only reason we don't charge a ridiculous price for it is that we knew it would gain massive orders so the econonmy of scale factor was on our side).


As for exact details i think HWEL might have a better idea about them so i'll wait for him to answer.

OK.
I withdraw comments.

i want to buy that...ill give you 8 mil...

Hotdogs2: it was fair cirticism no needd to delete it, my appologies if i came over heavy handed.

Anyway order confrimed (i'll chase up HWEL about the TG).



Turd burgler: As a newer nation would be happy to allow you a first purchase discount but how many units are you interested in (ie you need roughly 54 (1 regiment) for a fully useful level of deployment).

We apreciate your new status and probable lack of funds, if you ahve any specific requests please feel free to make them by TG to arange possible finace options.

What is to be known? Armor, height, what? I'm sure that if nothing's here its floating somewhere in the design thread and we overlooked its minor details. As it has been said a full detail on armor is available upon request.

OOC: What was the issue about anyway? Looks like you pretty well covered it. I've been out for a few days.

160mm main guns have been considered for developement for main battle tanks of western forces. It is only because of extra weight that they aren't adopted. Non the less it is rather easy as a designer to overcome this flaw. Lower weight high strength materials for example.

OOC:
I believe there's a version of the abrams with a 165mm demo gun, howd you like that in urban combat?! :twisted:

muhahaha,
I have the power!!!
I dont mind,
i was wrong you were right,
(It wasnt to hard, You should of said something like(OOC):
You cant buy the tank anymore, Due to extreme offence.

we would like to purchase 1,000 T-7 Gilgamesh tanks. *A total of $8.5 billion has been wired*
Dol Duquait Department of Defence

we would like to purchase 1,000 T-7 Gilgamesh tanks. *A total of $8.5 billion has been wired*
Dol Duquait Department of Defence

Order confirmed expect delivery within 2 Rl days.

ill take 1000 of them, money wired on confermation.

ill take 1000 of them, money wired on confermation.

Many thanks for your order.

Your order is confrimed and you should expect delivery within 3 RL days.

I think I've found my new MBT.

We request permission to build 2000 of these tanks over the span of 10 years.

I think I've found my new MBT.

We request permission to build 2000 of these tanks over the span of 10 years.


Permission from Crookfur Arms has been granted, we ask that you wait 1 day to allow any design team memeber to post any objections they have (unlikely) but other than that you have your authorisation.

Permission from Crookfur Arms has been granted, we ask that you wait 1 day to allow any design team memeber to post any objections they have (unlikely) but other than that you have your authorisation.

Noted, thank you very much.

Could i buy prod rights? ill give you 6billion for the rights.

Liberated America would like to order 50 Units ASAP.

$425,000,000 will be wired upon confirmation

I will take 200 for 500,000,000 ASAP



will be wired immediately after delivery

[OOC: I would love to find how december nations can throw around a couple of bil :/]

[OOC: I would love to find how december nations can throw around a couple of bil :/]


*is befuddled by obvious miscalculation*

Hmmm.

OOC: Can you explain to me how ETC:

A) Works

B) How can you get such a large cannon, when ETC is meant to be bulkier than a real cannon!?

Anyway, I will hav 200, for the Elite Tank Division

ETC guns work by the following means.

Essentially the same as conventional guns which work by the means of the preasure differential between the hot gasses created by the propellant detonation and the exterior. ETC guns work the same way except the propellant charge is super heated by a massive electric pulse turning the gasses effectively into plasma which generates much much higher preasure levels and hence performance. the down side is that the extreme heat and operating levels mean the gun needs to considerably stonger and bulkier to survive much use.


The rahter large gun is acoomodated by the fact it takes up almost all of the turret assembly the crew are housed in the forward section of the hull, this a big and heavy tank where massive takes have had to be made to preserve internal space.



Anyway your order is confrimed please allow 1 RL day for delivery.

We'll take 5 for testing and evaluation.

We'll take 5 for testing and evaluation.

Many thanks your order is confrimed and you should expect delivery within 1 RL day

How much for production rights?

We tend not to mention the price of production rights in public as we do not sell production rights in a similar way to that used commonly on NS but we go for detailed licensing contracts ie you tell us how many you plan on producing and then receive authorisation from a design team member. It is assume that actual break down of work allocation and funds tranfer is carried out at a lower level.


We woudl ask that you make an application for a production license quoting the numbers you intend to produce.

Check your TGs.

The Empire of NouvelleTerre is intristed in purchasing 50 of your T-7 Gilgamesh MBTs, payment will be wired on confirmation.

The Empire of NouvelleTerre is intristed in purchasing 50 of your T-7 Gilgamesh MBTs, payment will be wired on confirmation.

NouvelleTerre's order confirmed. We have our own policy on production rights which can be found on the thread. Electro-Thermal Chemical main guns use a chamber filled with the nessisary chemicals for the reaction and is ignited by a electric current run through it. This is the replacement for solid propellents (gun-powder or whatever else) and fires it at much higher velocities. Large gun calibres between 140-160mm should in this new generation of modern tanks be capable of reaching muzzle velocities above 2500mps. With the much more powerful propellent it should bring it well above this (up to 3000). And I believe Crookfur explained perfectly well how there is room for such a large gun (our large remotely operated turret).

Blackerdragontail would like to buy 100 of your T7 tanks for our Darc Elite Tank Divison. Money will be wired when you confirm our order.

ill take 10,000, this will take over the job of my old M-1s and challengerIIs

Since there are no objections, we will begin production of our tanks.

Blackerdragontail would like to buy 100 of your T7 tanks for our Darc Elite Tank Divison. Money will be wired when you confirm our order.

Many thanks
Your order is confrimed please expect delivery within 1 RL day

ill take 10,000

Your large order is confirmed, expect delivery in 5 batchs of 1000 every 2 RL days

Since there are no objections, we will begin production of our tanks.

Very well, good luck and many thanks.

Skibereen will purchase 250 of your T-7's.
$2125000000.00 wired.

Skibereen will purchase 250 of your T-7's.
$2125000000.00 wired.

MAny thanks.
Your order is confrimed your should expect delivery wthin 1 RL day.

500...$4.25 bil wired.

Thank you. Your order has been confirmed.

ill take about 10 dozen

Ohooho... You dont know what i'd pay to get my hands on these, they were my downfall in WWX...

I'd like two thousand please.

ill take about 10 dozen

Baker's dozen or regular dozen? ;)

Anyway your order for 120 units is confrimed please expect delivery within 1 RL day.



Ohooho... You dont know what i'd pay to get my hands on these, they were my downfall in WWX...

I'd like two thousand please.


I don't suppose you would have alink to the events would you?

Anyway your order is confrimed please expect deliverywithin 4 RL days.

Many thanks.

The United Communist States of Zvarinograd pays great respect to the nation of Crookfur's expertise in the arms manufacturing industry and would like, if possible at all, an air droppable version of the T-7 Gilgamesh in lieu with the military's unique doctrine of devotion to airpower. We know it may sound ridiculous for such a heavy main battle tank, however our country can only offer air mobility as we don't have any naval vessels. We eagerly await your response and would understand denial of our request.

Dr. Sergei Valkov
United Communist States of Zvarinograd

ill take about 10 dozen

Baker's dozen or regular dozen? ;)

Anyway your order for 120 units is confrimed please expect delivery within 1 RL day.



Ohooho... You dont know what i'd pay to get my hands on these, they were my downfall in WWX...

I'd like two thousand please.




I don't suppose you would have alink to the events would you?

Anyway your order is confrimed please expect deliverywithin 4 RL days.

Many thanks.


Well basically
what happened is Polish Mark-90s and 85's took on Russian T-7's and GT-1s.. The result was suicide for the poor poles.

WWX is currently been played on probards forum, its reset so hurry an you can grab a nation = http://nswwx.proboards7.com/index.cgi
Thanks for the tanks :lol:

Zvarinograd: I really don't think the Gilgamesh could ever be considered air dropable, at best you might get away with a low level release with drogues and a shock absorbing pallet but you need a C5 or AN125/255 to carry it (weight wise the C17 should be able to carry one but it isn't wide enough).

HWEL and myself are planning a lighter more "MBT" version and i am considering an update to my koshi light tank and possibly a straight forward assault gun mounting for the 155 ETC gun.


Hogsweat: Cool (or not so cool to be on the reciving end) thanks for sharing.

50 please.

We are comparing this to the GT-2. Wargame :)

I this wins, we might purchase more.

50 please.

We are comparing this to the GT-2. Wargame :)

I this wins, we might purchase more.


Your order is confrimed please allow 2 RL days for delivery.

Cool.

Or not so cool :)

Im away to reply about the tank we are making.

I might have to use it purely as export, and a bit in my forces. The M-26 upgrades are getting even better.

Zvarinograd: I really don't think the Gilgamesh could ever be considered air dropable, at best you might get away with a low level release with drogues and a shock absorbing pallet but you need a C5 or AN125/255 to carry it (weight wise the C17 should be able to carry one but it isn't wide enough).

HWEL and myself are planning a lighter more "MBT" version and i am considering an update to my koshi light tank and possibly a straight forward assault gun mounting for the 155 ETC gun.


Hogsweat: Cool (or not so cool to be on the reciving end) thanks for sharing.

Any time.

OOC:
Well it might be a while yet for the improved T-7. I'm working on small arms so I'm trying to get a hang of modern terminal ballistics. Very hard. If anyone has resources (good ones and if you're wondering what good ones are then don't give me any) on terminal ballistics (ie: web pages or experts I could contact over the net) please telegram them to me. Then I've got exams. Blast!

Hey, where can I see any more Crookfur or Hole Where Evil Lives tanks ? Im interested in buying Top Quality goods..

Well i have some of my older stuff still kicking around on my webpage.
stats are a little iffy to be honest but they aren't too bad:
http://www.meatballs.terminator.org.uk/crookfur/

I have soem ideas for extensions on the gilgamesh line but those will have to wait a while a tthe moment.

Well I'm currently designing every single weapon system to be used in my army (well not every one, I'm not superhuman). I don't know how many will be available for export though. I was working on a joint light artillery project which failed in the end. I might bring that back from the dead if I get enough time and energy. I got exams (one done 3 to go) so after that I'll be back to my usual constant trying to figure out ballistics. Then finally I'll be ready to zap the Gilgamesh into an improved design (I didn't think it would be possible either) with Crookfur.

GIVE ME FORTY OF YOUR TANKS :twisted:

I need 5 of your cool tanks, telegram me!

GIVE ME FORTY OF YOUR TANKS :twisted:

I assume this is an order.

Your order is confrimed and will be processed once payment details are confirmed.


I need 5 of your cool tanks, telegram me!


TG sent.

GIVE ME FORTY OF YOUR TANKS :twisted:

I assume this is an order.

Your order is confrimed and will be processed once payment details are confirmed.


I need 5 of your cool tanks, telegram me!


TG sent.

As discussed with Crookfur, I would like to buy production rights. i wish to produce AT THE MOST at this time perhaps 500. We are willing to pay top dollar.

Samtonia:
As far as we are concerned you have have authorisation, we would ask you to wait 24hrs in case one of the other members of the dev team have any objections.

If none are raised then you cna go ahead (assume that payment and royalties etc are all paid at a lower level)

Please could we order 1000 of these tanks

Total= $8,500,000,000

*wired*

Thanks,

FIN

oops multi

oops multi 2

oops multi 3

Please could we order 1000 of these tanks

Total= $8,500,000,000

*wired*

Thanks,

FIN

Many thanks your order is confrimed please expect delivery within 2 RL days.

Crookfur, I would like to order 10,000 tanks...I don't have a heavy MBT. I will wire $85 billion for this...please produce over a five-year period. Hm....have to dig up that tank contract thread for my regular MBT's...

Crookfur, I would like to order 10,000 tanks...I don't have a heavy MBT. I will wire $85 billion for this...please produce over a five-year period. Hm....have to dig up that tank contract thread for my regular MBT's...

Crookfur, I would like to order 10,000 tanks...I don't have a heavy MBT. I will wire $85 billion for this...please produce over a five-year period. Hm....have to dig up that tank contract thread for my regular MBT's...

Done and done, your production schedule should be aceivable.

Many thanks

Crookfur, i would like to order 2.5Billion worrth of these tanks please, i just got some money from an airforce contract. Japans gonna pay!

Sorry for the delay in replying my first reply got eaten...


Your $2.5billion will purchase 300 tanks (actually 294 but 300 is easier)

You should expect delivery within 2-3Rl days.

Many thanks

right... as ive got more money for my military budget - purchasing -

1000 T7 Gilgameshes -
Money Wired

Your order is confrimed please allow 2 Rl days for delivery

Hey, hogsweat you should of bought of my puppet! :D , i cant because im not going to buy off my puppet, so:
[code:1:17a6c74406]The Buckaroan government has felt the need to expand its military, and re-new the old T-7s we have had in use for many years so therefore we would like to make a purchase of 10,000 T-7 gilgamesh's for use as our main MBT.[/code:1:17a6c74406]

OOC: back when i used to RP with this nation...hehe, that was only 1RP

Hey, hogsweat you should of bought of my puppet! :D , i cant because im not going to buy off my puppet, so:
[code:1:91f9ab6e5b]The Buckaroan government has felt the need to expand its military, and re-new the old T-7s we have had in use for many years so therefore we would like to make a purchase of 10,000 T-7 gilgamesh's for use as our main MBT.[/code:1:91f9ab6e5b]

OOC: back when i used to RP with this nation...hehe, that was only 1RP


Sorry if i seemm abit dense or is that a order?

Mind's Eye would like to order 2,000 of these units.

Mind's Eye would like to order 2,000 of these units.

Many thanks for Selecting the T-7 Gilgamesh


Your order is confrimed and should take roughly 2 years to fufill (basically 2RL days or however you RP time).

I would like to purchase the production rights for the T-7 Gilgamesh. cant see a price though.

Sir,

Your Gilgamesh tank seems perfect for our ground-forces upgrade. Starblaydia wishes to enquire if it can produce these tanks purely for its own defence purposes under a license of some kind.

Carlito Orfosi
Defence Minister
Protectorate of Starblaydia

Starblaydia & Unified Sith

Production licenses for the Gilgamesh work slightly differently compared to most licensing schemes.

First you have to establish how many you wish to produce (feel free to grossly over estiamte that).
Then your License application has to be aproved by 2 members of the design consortium.
One that has happened you are free to produce as many as you want upto the number you stated earlier.
No formal paymnet is established it is assumed that we make money of a small royalty on each tank your produce (works for us as we make very little in the way of capitol investment as you have to biuld your own factories).

Any licenses given are purely of a Domestic production nature.

I hope this helps.

well iam aiming to produce up to 15000 at the most. as my army is entirely armour and air. no navy.

Sir,

Our thanks for your reply. At the moment we are not expecting to purchase a high number of tanks, though may do so in the future.

As such we would like to place an order for 500 T-7s, for a total of $4.25 Bn.

We shall transfer our funds to your account upon confirmation of this order.

Carlito Orfosi
Defence Minister
Protectorate of Starblaydia

Unified Sith:
Unless one of the other consortium memebers have a specific objection then you ahve our approvavl please allow 2 RL days for any such objection to be made. If no such is forth comming you may proceed.

Starblaydia:

Your order is confrimed and should be with you within 2 RL days



Many thanks for CHoosing the T-7 Gilgamesh.

Unified Sith:
Unless one of the other consortium memebers have a specific objection then you ahve our approvavl please allow 2 RL days for any such objection to be made. If no such is forth comming you may proceed.

Starblaydia:

Your order is confrimed and should be with you within 2 RL days



Many thanks for CHoosing the T-7 Gilgamesh.

The Jordaxian army is interested in the tank. If it is possible, would it be possible for a little more armour, even at the cost of speed? These are desired from a purely defensive aspect, so surviveability would be the key desire. Whether or not you can do the above, we would like to buy 600 of them, which I believe comes to 5.1 billion.

It would be very difficult to uparmor the the T-7 without looking at an external bolt armor solution, which we will have a look into and get back to on.

In the meantime your order is confrimed and you should expect deliveries to be complete within 3 RL days.

Id like some more of these babies. In fact, I want a contract.
Ill buy 2000 Now, and how much would a contract be, or how much would the rights be?

Id look into a situation were I could buy the rights, but you could keep them too. Production rights, that is.

Hogsweat

Many thanks your order is confirmed, you shoudl expect delivery within 4 RL days.

As to production rights i reffer you to the psot i made to Starblaydia & Unified Sith


Production licenses for the Gilgamesh work slightly differently compared to most licensing schemes.

First you have to establish how many you wish to produce (feel free to grossly over estiamte that).
Then your License application has to be aproved by 2 members of the design consortium.
One that has happened you are free to produce as many as you want upto the number you stated earlier.
No formal paymnet is established it is assumed that we make money of a small royalty on each tank your produce (works for us as we make very little in the way of capitol investment as you have to biuld your own factories).

Any licenses given are purely of a Domestic production nature.

I hope this helps.

The United Socialist Republic of Hamanistan would like to purchase 300 of these beutiful pieces of machinery. One question though, with the alcohol burning engine would it be possible to use ethanol in it?

2,550,000,000 will be wired apon confirmation.

YEp it is ethanol which is used as it is the most common memeber of the alcohol group. The turbine engine can actually tolerate quiet a few different fuel sources but is optimised for high quality ethanol.

Your order is confirmed please allow 3 Rl days for delivery.

U WannaKickbooty, Minister of Defense, would like to purchase for our Army the following..

200 of your T-7 MBT for a total price of 1.75 bilion
Money is wired with the order

U WannaKickbooty, Minister of Defense, would like to purchase for our Army the following..

100 of your T-7 MBT for a total price of 850 million
Money is wired with the order

Many thanks for your order. it is confrimed and you chould expect delivery within 3-4Rl days.

Unified Sith:
If you haven't alreayd doen so you can now consider yourself as having received a license approval and may begin production.

The Inability would like to buy 3,000 T-7 Gilgamesh Heavy Main Battle Tanks for a total of 25,500,000,000.

The Inability would like to buy 3,000 T-7 Gilgamesh Heavy Main Battle Tanks for a total of 25,500,000,000.

Many thanks for choosing the T-7 Gilgamesh

Your order is confrimed please allow 2 Rl days for delivery.

Thank you, the money is wired.

The Truittian Armored Divisions would like to put a years worth of funds into buying these.

We will purchase 1,200 of these

Money wired oppon confermation

Also,
How much would production rights be?

Mainly becouse we are trying to be more Truittian Based Military and less forgien reliant.

I am saying say 20 million USD for production rights?

(Just a guess, if there is any, state the price)

We'd like a production license for 2,000 additional tanks.

Truitt:
your order is confrimed and you should expect delivery within 3 Rl days.
as to a production license (really need to put this on the 1st page):

Production licenses for the Gilgamesh work slightly differently compared to most licensing schemes.

First you have to establish how many you wish to produce (feel free to grossly over estiamte that).
Then your License application has to be aproved by 2 members of the design consortium.
One that has happened you are free to produce as many as you want upto the number you stated earlier.
No formal paymnet is established it is assumed that we make money of a small royalty on each tank your produce (works for us as we make very little in the way of capitol investment as you have to biuld your own factories).

Any licenses given are purely of a Domestic production nature.

Lost Hills
Pending any disagreement from other consortium memebers your appilcation is approved.

OOC: Tag for consideration for new MBT

A ROCA representative approaches the front desk of the Gilmesh consortium headquarters and introduces himself to the secretary.

The Secretary looks up as the represetnative approachs her desk.
"Good afternonn Mr ______ I trust this unsually fine Crookfur weather finds you well? (since you are a member of CAP it am assuming the Crookfur Office would be a logical place to start) if you would give us but a few moments Mr McAndrews our cheif sales officer will be with you."

A few minutes later the large and imaculatly dressed form of John Mc Andrews appears and leads the represetnative to his office over looking the historic city of Kirkhill

The Secretary looks up as the represetnative approachs her desk.
"Good afternonn Mr ______ I trust this unsually fine Crookfur weather finds you well? (since you are a member of CAP it am assuming the Crookfur Office would be a logical place to start) if you would give us but a few moments Mr McAndrews our cheif sales officer will be with you."

A few minutes later the large and imaculatly dressed form of John Mc Andrews appears and leads the represetnative to his office over looking the historic city of Kirkhill

"Ah, I've forgotten to introduce myself. Chang."

Chang takes a seat at the office.

"Your company's wares have interested the ROCA." he said. "They wish to procure a fairly large order with the right to make modifications."

i would like to buy 10 of the T-7 Gilgamesh tanks, but i would also like to purchase the designs in order to start up my own production line of them and if possible improve on them and send you the information im willing to pay a sum of $50,000,000 million and I'd be willing to pay $2,000,000 for each tank that would come off the plants production line

_Taiwan:

Mc Andrews sat back in his chair as he replied,
"While we are indeed pleased to receive the interst of a significant nation such as your represent we would be intreged to learn of what sort of modifications may be deemed as required by yourselves.

naturaly this a mix of plain curiousity and our desire to learn how to serve our customers better but i expect that such an agreement can be made, it might require direct consultation with 2 of the consortium members but i see no real objections".


Clan turner:

Your order for 10 is confirmed please expect delivery soon.

As to the plans etc i reffer you to the Licensing Scheme:
Production licenses for the Gilgamesh work slightly differently compared to most licensing schemes.

First you have to establish how many you wish to produce (feel free to grossly over estiamte that).
Then your License application has to be aproved by 2 members of the design consortium.
One that has happened you are free to produce as many as you want upto the number you stated earlier.
No formal paymnet is established it is assumed that we make money of a small royalty on each tank your produce (works for us as we make very little in the way of capitol investment as you have to biuld your own factories).

Any licenses given are purely of a Domestic production nature.

Many thanks for Choosing the T-7 Gilgamesh.

The Incorporated States of JiangGuo would like to purchase 500 of these vehicles for the sum of $4,250,000,000. The payment will be wired upon confirmation of the order.

JiangGuo

Hummm

I would like production rights for the T-7 since we are going to make it the standerd MBT for the Truittian Armored Divisions.

I will estimate say 50,000 every presidental term (8 NS Years, 8 RL Days)

After about four presidental term, I am guessing production will lower dramatically to about 350 per NS year.

After about five years of that, production may only take place in case of major war and losses. So I am guessing.....

*pulls out calculator*

For First 2 Paragraphs: 200,000
For Last Paragraph: 1,750
Extra For Incase resians: 1,000

If in the case for some odd reason we will need mroe, I will Telegram you.

So, do I qualify? And of cource, worker tax from the product of forgien items are automatically sent to the forgien nation(s) if it is required, which it is here.

JiangGuo:
Many thanks
your order has been confirmed and you should expect delivery within 2 NS year (2 RL days).

Truitt:
your intial production rate would be running at 6250 units a year, which is more than a little extreme, these are big complicated beasts that take a lot of biulding, they aren't like T-55s that cna be turned out cheaply and simply. If you can bring your peak yearly production down to about 1000-1500 then you would have a deal (and thats still at least 3 divsions of tanks a year).

_Taiwan:

Mc Andrews sat back in his chair as he replied,
"While we are indeed pleased to receive the interst of a significant nation such as your represent we would be intreged to learn of what sort of modifications may be deemed as required by yourselves.

naturaly this a mix of plain curiousity and our desire to learn how to serve our customers better but i expect that such an agreement can be made, it might require direct consultation with 2 of the consortium members but i see no real objections".


"Hm...these should explain it further."

Chang hands him a document. (OOC: Fire control upgrades + tank roof)

Truitt:
your intial production rate would be running at 6250 units a year, which is more than a little extreme, these are big complicated beasts that take a lot of biulding, they aren't like T-55s that cna be turned out cheaply and simply. If you can bring your peak yearly production down to about 1000-1500 then you would have a deal (and thats still at least 3 divsions of tanks a year).

Alright, I was aimming for really high so I might not have needed to come back for a bit :wink:

Money Wired apon confermation, and automatic worker tax will be sent also after confermation.

_Taiwan:

"Well these updates seem feasable and acceptable to us, as i said barring any particular objections from a consortium memeber i bel,ive that any deal can be considered as having approval."


Truitt:

A licensing deal for 1000 units a year upto a maxium of 230,000units has been approved by The Crookfur partners, barring any objects this can be considered your final aproval and go ahead.

Thank you.

My civil war just ended, and production is up and unnign to repair my army.

The Imperial Armed Forces of Eshli would like to order 30 of your Mighty Gilgamesh Tanks.

Money is bieng wired.

Eshli:
Your roder is confirmed please allow 1 Rl day for delivery.

The Nation of Araznatan is extremely impressed by the Gilgamesh and would like to purchase 10,000 T-7s to replace our current archaic armored units. The total would amount to $85,000,000,000 and will be wired upon order confirmation.

Araznatan:
Many thanks for choosing the T-7 Gilgamesh

Your order is confirmed and you should expect delivery to begin within 1 RL day and be finished within 10Rl days.

A small government owned business jet touches down at a small airstrip.

A single official with a large briefcase steps out and walks the few metres to a privately chartered helicopter, blades already turning.

As soon as he is onboard the helicopter lifts off and heads for the procurement building for T-7 tanks.


When the helicopter lands the official gets out and heads inside the building and walks up to the secretary.

"Hello id like to buy some tanks please"

OOC: i really need to start some international offices or have roving agents...

IC: the secratary quickly informs the sales team and a representative promptly escorts the IH official to a rahter nice office and offers him refreshments before settling down.

"We thank your government for it's interest in the T-7 and we are indeed looking forward to hearing how we can help you in defending your nation."

"Well. We are very attached to our current M1A2 tanks, and they have an estimated service life of 20 years. However we wish to begin the formation of several Heavy Armoured Divisions. Whilst we have several in service at the moment we feel that the hardware used is not sufficent enough to defeat the most advanced current tech nations around if they were to ever come knocking."

He shuffled slightly in his seat.

"We therefore are very interested in purchasing some of your tanks. A military board has looked over the plans and is very interested to see how they perform in the flesh. We would be hoping to arrange a test viewing on the tanks for some of our top-level people on the military appropriations board that has to clear all purchases, as well as having some of our field officers come and have a look."

"If and when we get clearance to purchase some, we would be looking at purchasing about 4000 units, with spare parts and instruction for our crews, as well as a license to build spare parts."

"My first question is how much do you think that would come to in total. I have the figure for the tanks" he slides a piece of paper across the desk "based on them being 8.5million per unit, but we will need to know about the other service costs if possible."


OOC: From what ive read and understood this tank is far better than an M1A2, and also is easily within a 2010tech boundary? Please correct me if i am wrong.

OOC: Sodding server :( thort we were meant to go to jolt months ago

We would like to order 1,000 of these tanks. If the price is $8.5 million per tank, that total would come to $8.5 billion.

Money will be wired upon confirmation.

Thank you for your consideration.

Terrence A. Wilson
Vice President for Defense
Incorporated States of Sarzonia

OOC: oh it is miles ahead of the M1A2, it kind of sits where things would go if the US decided ona true heavy tank for the next armoured combat vehicle isntead of a light weight unit.

Tech wise it just scraps 2010, ETC guns have been biult and fired in 120mm size, the sheer hugeness of the main gun would make implementation longer but it is probably doable. The egine is msot defiantly mod tech, hybrid pwoer designs on the type used are already used in naval vessels and are being slowly introduced onto trucks and tanks are kind of in the middle of those 2. All the other systems pretty much exist already.
in conclusion it comes down to the gun, many already accept ETC guns as mod tech but others don't, which i can understand fully.

IC:

"A full demonstration program is perfectly possible, either here within Crookfur or at a location of your choosing.

A full scheme for spare parts and intial crew conversion training is generally provided without cost on any significant order of tanks. Intially your first conversion crews would take part in the Crookfur Army trainign program before returning home with a number of advisors to establish your own scheme. As this scheme is being established spaces will be availble within Crookfur for additional personnel. Domestic licenses for all muntions, deployables and spare parts are included as a matter of course.
Further assitance and support does anturally incure soem cost but this would be unlikely to run to more than $200million over the lifetime of the tanks (just a random rough figure)."

OOC: Ill post IC later sorry, my pc is messin up.

OOC: its cool take your time.

OOC: its cool take your time.

[OOC: Did you get my order?]

OOC: oops sorry the page turn over caused me to miss it...


IC:
Many thanks for selecting the T-7 Gilgamesh for your Armoured warfare needs

Your order is confirmed please allow 2 RL days for delivery.

OOC: oops sorry the page turn over caused me to miss it...


IC:
Many thanks for selecting the T-7 Gilgamesh for your Armoured warfare needs

Your order is confirmed please allow 2 RL days for delivery.

Finally!

A replacement for the M1A2 SEP.

I'll take 1000, and if I give the 1000 M1A2's will I get a discount?

If not here is the $8,500,000,000 to be wired upon confirmation.

Thanks for making a great MBT, not this pansy light armored rubbish that are going around these days.

My regards Crookfur.

Your order is currently on hold due to matters pertaining to the IDF crisis

Who keeps on tging storefront owners in an effort to stop them selling me goods?

All ready having bought a liscence for 15,000 the Sith tank core would like to extend this to an extra 40,000 tanks. The military is willing to pay as much as required as it goes through a major overhaull of its armed forces.

what do you mean about TGing storefront owners?

My reply is purely related to the fact that you did declare for IDF when (if everything gets sorted out to soem resemblence of order) he managed to kill the Hier to the Crookfur throne and pretty much dclare open warfare on the OMP.

nromally i would only be too delighted to sell you the T-7 but in light of current conditions you can see where my problem lies

All ready having bought a liscence for 15,000 the Sith tank core would like to extend this to an extra 40,000 tanks. The military is willing to pay as much as required as it goes through a major overhaull of its armed forces.


Your request has been received, please allow 2 Rl days for a reply (what with the move it may be dificult to dig up soem of the other creators).

My reply is purely related to the fact that you did declare for IDF when (if everything gets sorted out to soem resemblence of order) he managed to kill the Hier to the Crookfur throne and pretty much dclare open warfare on the OMP.


Oh right, I had no knowledge that he killed the heir to your throne. And all I did was send Carrier Groups to defend his waters in the event of an attack - no offensive action was ever launched against anyone.

Nazi Weaponized Virus:
For the time being your order has been aproved.
Your order should be delivered within 4 NS years.

Well will accept the M1A2s as a trade in we will pay$1.2million for each one.

Unified Sith:
sorry for the late decision.
Your requeast has been aproved on the lines of our previous agreement.

I would like to buy 200 Gilgamesh tanks to replace our M60s and T72s currently in use by the First and Second Armoured Divisions.

Total is $1,700,000,000. Money wired upon confirmation.

Rodavian Office of the Armed Forces

I would like to buy 200 Gilgamesh tanks to replace our M60s and T72s currently in use by the First and Second Armoured Divisions.

Total is $1,700,000,000. Money wired upon confirmation.

Rodavian Office of the Armed Forces

many thanks your order is confirmed please allow 2 years for delivery.

We thankyou. Money is wired.

We would like to buy the production rights for 20,000 of these tanks. The number might be increased through time

errr....i want to play BUMPer cars

OOC: my appologies for the delay i was on holiday.

anyway:

IC:

Ruissia: your request is confrimed and is hereby approved pending objections from the other (now largely silent ) partner nations.

I will only take 2, 17 mil will be wired upon delivery.

I will only take 2, 17 mil will be wired upon delivery.


Many thanks, please expect delivery very soon.

Sirs,

After a highly successful 500-unit purchase (OOC: four months and a few pages back), The Protectorate of Starblaydia wishes to purchase Production Rights for the T-7 Gilgamesh. We estimate that 10,000 units would be within the limits of our defensive needs. We hope this order is acceptable to the remaining still-communicating nations of the producers.

Lord Juan Bruntos,
Minister of Finance,
Protectorate of Starblaydia.

Production licenses for the Gilgamesh work slightly differently compared to most licensing schemes.

First you have to establish how many you wish to produce (feel free to grossly over estiamte that).
Then your License application has to be aproved by 2 members of the design consortium.
One that has happened you are free to produce as many as you want upto the number you stated earlier.
No formal paymnet is established it is assumed that we make money of a small royalty on each tank your produce (works for us as we make very little in the way of capitol investment as you have to build your own factories).

Aeloularea Nations
Defense Pact
Essembra, Capital City
of Kormanthor

Number to Produce: 1,000,000 over a ten yr, period

We wish to aquire the Production licenses for the Gilgamesh

Signed

King Matthew of Kormanthor

Sirs,

After a highly successful 500-unit purchase (OOC: four months and a few pages back), The Protectorate of Starblaydia wishes to purchase Production Rights for the T-7 Gilgamesh. We estimate that 10,000 units would be within the limits of our defensive needs. We hope this order is acceptable to the remaining still-communicating nations of the producers.

Lord Juan Bruntos,
Minister of Finance,
Protectorate of Starblaydia.

Sorry for the delay i totally missed this post...
Are yous till interested

Kormanthor :

1million units over that time scale would be extremely improbable even for a colation of nations.

We would be happy to authorise a deal for 10,000units per nation over 10 years however (so if you have 100nations then the 1million figure would be possible).